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What did you think about the quality and quantity of women there? Was there BBBJ? Was the sex covered? Affectionate? Thanks.On a weekday, there are 20-25 women of all sizes and types. I had hard time remembering name and number of the women during the line up; women come one by one and introduce themselves. On Sunday, the selection is much less. BBBJ is available but it is between you and the girl once you are in the room, and another 20 K to 30 K extra. I have not been able to work out BBFS at New Life. I have found women to be affectionate (of course, no GFE) there; better guarantee than Centro or Poblado pickups. In that aspect, my experiences at New Life have been better than even other casas. You can also get the girl's number and arrange for something outside New Life.
Gabbarsing
06-02-24, 17:51
I have been to MDE first time back in March and again in May. First time I stayed in Airbnb and it was very convenient. However, in April there have been some more restriction over Airbnb so I took chance with hotel Du parc back in May.
Based on my May experience. Both AirbNbn and Hotel now a days strictly checks physical IDs and original passport / immigration stamp in case of Venezuelans. I almost had to do every session in cheap hotels in May.
Any recommendation for ID free Airbnb walk-able to Lleras Park? I know the risks involved with ID free arrangements, but most girls I happen to like are Venezuelans and they often don't have immigration stamps etc. I take enough precautions before I invite girls to my hotel.
Also has the scene at Lleras Park changed? Is it back to normal now? I am planning to be in MDE in 2 weeks so can use help with ID friendly hotels / Airbnb recommendation. TY TY.
Appreciate the help. Feel free to DM me.
StudBucket
06-02-24, 21:00
Have you ever gone out with a chick and she was very honest with you and told you there would be no fucking and you agreed, but then ended up fucking anyway? Sometimes people are very clear about stuff and their actions show they changed their mind.
Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. I tell chicks on the dating site all the time that you can not "look" for a relationship the same way you can not walk out of your house and look for people to be friends with you. All you can hope to do is meet people. Things progress and develop naturally. In your case 3 things progressed naturally at the same time, but that is not a course you wanted to take.Words of wisdom and well said Mr. E.
MohdirFan82
06-02-24, 21:16
Most of your posts are all about asking questions but not contributing to the community.
You have been to Brazil, Colombia in the past, also asked questions and your reports are missing.
I have been to MDE first time back in March and again in May. First time I stayed in Airbnb and it was very convenient. However, in April there have been some more restriction over Airbnb so I took chance with hotel Du parc back in May.
Based on my May experience. Both AirbNbn and Hotel now a days strictly checks physical IDs and original passport / immigration stamp in case of Venezuelans. I almost had to do every session in cheap hotels in May.
Any recommendation for ID free Airbnb walk-able to Lleras Park? I know the risks involved with ID free arrangements, but most girls I happen to like are Venezuelans and they often don't have immigration stamps etc. I take enough precautions before I invite girls to my hotel.
Also has the scene at Lleras Park changed? Is it back to normal now? I am planning to be in MDE in 2 weeks so can use help with ID friendly hotels / Airbnb recommendation. TY TY.
Appreciate the help. Feel free to DM me.
Exoticspirit
06-02-24, 22:05
On a weekday, there are 20-25 women of all sizes and types. I had hard time remembering name and number of the women during the line up; women come one by one and introduce themselves. On Sunday, the selection is much less. BBBJ is available but it is between you and the girl once you are in the room, and another 20 K to 30 K extra. I have not been able to work out BBFS at New Life. I have found women to be affectionate (of course, no GFE) there; better guarantee than Centro or Poblado pickups. In that aspect, my experiences at New Life have been better than even other casas. You can also get the girl's number and arrange for something outside New Life.The one girl I took at New Life was talking something about natural vs condom just before she started the BJ for extra propina. She may have mentioned this a few more times during our session but I'm not sure if she meant just natural during the BJ or FS or both since she talked way too fast for me and I'm only at very basic Spanish level.
AmorPorFavor
06-03-24, 02:19
He was with a puta. https://www.elespectador.com/colombia/encontraron-sin-vida-a-extranjero-de-54-anos-al-interior-de-un-hotel-en-medellin/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0j42TCVLlaqEb2jrGwB1RT95UJguXoaX1OxJeHdlKjf7T-vqyb-Nmxxws_aem_AbOzDBxLpuWJAYbUa7Wtn0ngVVZfPpjXriExK4anolrvR-16aEXQJ8QdyuMSc1ENmT7dP0NSG4_J7TBLHXW2NtXX.
He was with a puta. https://www.elespectador.com/colombia/encontraron-sin-vida-a-extranjero-de-54-anos-al-interior-de-un-hotel-en-medellin/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0j42TCVLlaqEb2jrGwB1RT95UJguXoaX1OxJeHdlKjf7T-vqyb-Nmxxws_aem_AbOzDBxLpuWJAYbUa7Wtn0ngVVZfPpjXriExK4anolrvR-16aEXQJ8QdyuMSc1ENmT7dP0NSG4_J7TBLHXW2NtXX.Crazy thing is how many dudes get drugged and robbed and you never hear about it. Likewise, mongers come here and leave without issue.
Crazy thing is how many dudes get drugged and robbed and you never hear about it. Likewise, mongers come here and leave without issue.If you never heard about these druggings and robberies, how do you know that there is a lot of them? I don't know how you can say that there is a lot when it is not reported and you never hear about them.
Mr Enternational
06-03-24, 05:59
Crazy thing is how many dudes get drugged and robbed and you never hear about it. Likewise, mongers come here and leave without issue.According to the article 27 non-immigrant foreigners dead in 5 months. At this rate we are looking at 65 by year's end. I am known to press my luck, but not like that.
Elvis 2008
06-03-24, 07:37
Then I got cold as well as Deli belly because I got caught in the rain and ate some stupid street shit in the barrio. I did not answer on WhatsApp and kind of disappeared. She showed up with her sister and with groceries in tow. They deep-cleaned my place at the hospital level clean. This 21-year-old girl literally was spoon-feeding me soups watching Rick and Morty in bed with me sick for 5 days. I was helping her do her university homework in bed; every morning, I got woken up by a BJ etc. Like the whole wifey treatment. Either she is a fantastic actress or caught feelings hard and basically told me okay for an open relationship on my part, closed on her; but I still don't want to string her along. How the fuck do I get out of this as words are not getting through to her head? She does not mind me sleeping around, even hitting on her friends, drinking, or smoking as long as she gets to sleep with me at night. Not even sex, she just want to sleep with me every night. This is getting so weird. Like I go home from work and find her sitting on my steps waiting for me. To be honest, I like her the most out of the roster, but she basically dropped everything for me, and I don't want to ruin a good girl's life. The other day, I had to force her to go to University as instead, she was going to market to run errands for me because I said I needed x why z. What am I doing wrong? How do I prevent this in the future? Is this normal here? Any real advice is appreciated veterans. Everyone else, you all are also welcome to laugh at my train-wreck of the current situation.You did not do anything wrong. You are just being overwhelmed with what Colombian women do when they like a guy. If you do not like the girl, end it with her. If you do, play it out with her but be honest and say you are seeing other people. You are pretty much a lottery ticket for her. If she does not win you, she will be bummed but she is not going to go all Fatal Attraction on you. My gal will spend an hour cutting my nails and we have been together for years and literally will not let any of my clothes go unwashed. That is just what they do. Honestly, the real issue is not that Colombian women act this way and are so giving but why other women do not.
She has a kid and basically wants a steady man, and I was very clear I am not that. She won't leave me alone; all day, she blows up my phone. She saw me at an event thing by Cabra Andaluz and caused a whole scene with crocodile tears, etc. , and tried to fight the girl I was with. She knows a friend of mine who is a local and blew up his wife's phone about me. The other day was sitting outside my old place crying in her car until I got a call from a neighbor. My neighbor was laughing at me so hard. What flavor of crazy is this? I don't do anything flashy, I don't even wear jewelry, I don't flash cash. I don't even have a car or speak decent Spanish, LOL. Why? Granted, I am not 65 or ulgy, but girls are going ape shit real quick from 0 to 100 in a week. All I did was invite her for a ride on a rental bike the next day, and she went off after that.Colombian women get really intense, really fast if they like you. Routinely, they want to talk to you for hours on end every night. It sounds like you got a crazy one here, and in this case, I would just block and ignore her and let everyone around you know that you are not with her. I know she keeps injecting herself into your life but just ignore her.
When I say, you are the lottery ticket type. Whatever income you make, multiply it by 10 and that is how rich you are in Colombia. If you make $100 k per year, that is like making a million with Colombian women. Colombian men frequently cheat, are drug addicted, physically violent, and often do not care about their kids. Getting a good looking guy who moves well is the easy part for Colombian women, and because there are so many of those guys, the women culturally are told to go after rich men. So if you are a nice decent looking guy making $100 k in the USA, you really are not that special in the USA anymore, but in Colombia, you are the shit.
If you have all this going on, then you have to change your attitude and how you present yourself. Consider yourself like a female 10. If the woman gives off any positive vibe to men, they are going to hit on the woman, so the 10's have to be careful not to give off that vibe. So maybe quit being so nice and helpful.
Exoticspirit
06-03-24, 12:21
If you have all this going on, then you have to change your attitude and how you present yourself. Consider yourself like a female 10. If the woman gives off any positive vibe to men, they are going to hit on the woman, so the 10's have to be careful not to give off that vibe. So maybe quit being so nice and helpful.Especially the case if she thinks you are okay with accepting any kids she has. Unfortunately, I have a friend who recently married a Colombian woman who also came with a preteen daughter, ie. , had to take as a package. A few months later, he's admitting that there are many 'challenges' in their marriage. I almost wanted to tell him that just because you fuck them, it doesn't mean you have to marry them.
Shit happens.
If you never heard about these druggings and robberies, how do you know that there is a lot of them? I don't know how you can say that there is a lot when it is not reported and you never hear about them.
In Unicentro Mall (located in the Laureles / Estadio neighborhood), there is a mobile shop; if you enter the mall from the University side entrance, take a right and it is the fourth or fifth store on the right. For 20000 pesos, I got a Claro SIM card with unlimited calls, 4 GB data and free FB and WhatsApp data for 7 days. You can add more minutes / data as needed. I did not have to provide any documentation. I was told that registration with the telephone company is not required if you are keeping the number for less than 20 days. The girl at the counter activated the SIM and tested it in my phone. I had no connectivity issue during my stay.
Exoticspirit
06-03-24, 16:30
In Unicentro Mall (located in the Laureles / Estadio neighborhood), there is a mobile shop; if you enter the mall from the University side entrance, take a right and it is the fourth or fifth store on the right. For 20000 pesos, I got a Claro SIM card with unlimited calls, 4 GB data and free FB and WhatsApp data for 7 days. You can add more minutes / data as needed. I did not have to provide any documentation. I was told that registration with the telephone company is not required if you are keeping the number for less than 20 days. The girl at the counter activated the SIM and tested it in my phone. I had no connectivity issue during my stay.I did the eSim route through Airalo with their Latin America plan since I was touring 3 different countries and it worked great. Used it for both Google Maps and Uber when I was in the city.
DiscoverFL
06-03-24, 18:26
Any recommendation for ID free Airbnb walk-able to Lleras Park? I know the risks involved with ID free arrangements, but most girls I happen to like are Venezuelans and they often don't have immigration stamps etc. I take enough precautions before I invite girls to my hotel.Use the AirBnb filter for places with self-check-in. That's what I choose. I get nice apartments (in one right now) with a keypad for entry into building and into apartment, no doorman, no one to explain anything to, nice private stay. Hundreds of places qualify like this. I personally prefer to stay in the Manila area (south of Poblado). Quieter calmer area.
First, this "Hvac repair" man does not think shit, he Knows precisely who he is. I was just asking about people's experiences to see if it is normal for girls to go from 0 to 100 in a week and become Grade A clingers as I am new to Colombia not the hobby. I never claimed to be a player, etc. I live my life, and I do well for myself wherever I go. I was simply asking veterans for their input and experiences, but this board seems to be populated by a good number of losers behind keyboards talking shit and not offering any valuable information or advice (which is the primary purpose of the board such as this). Just hiding behind keyboards with their fake online persona.
Second, this "HVAC repair man" has more degrees and honors / awards than your entire bloodline combined, so if you are going to talk shit and be derogatory, buddy, pick someone in your own weight class and tax bracket.
Finally, for the record, just because someone understands a simple engineering scheme does not make them HVAC repairs man. Not that there is anything wrong with people doing HVAC or other blue-collar jobs. Read a book, maybe you can help your subpar IQ.Women are women no matter where you're at. Do you think just because you're in Colombia that changes? No, the only difference is they're motivated by money more than in a developed country. If you're this much of a playboy then you've had experience in your own country and would not need to ask a board based primarily on paying for sex on what to do. Makes no sense.
KapnAmerica
06-04-24, 17:36
My boots are on the ground here in Medellíand. Arrived yesterday and I have not seen much difference since the supposed prostitution ban started. There are several prominent signs at the airport warning against trafficking minors. But there were a large number of foreigners entering the country yesterday (6/2) and it took me about an hour to get through the customs line. Which is always the worst part of the trip to Medellíand.
However, no one asked to see my phone and I was not hassled at all. Just stamped my passport and on I went.
I went on a date with a local girl in the evening and then headed over to Fase II to check it out. I arrived around 11 pm and there was a 40 k cover at the door. The selection of chicas was much better than I recalled, and there were a few I would consider hot.
As usual, the standard price for every chicas was 400 k. I am not sure how much time that buys. Some chicas will tell you 30 minutes, some will say 45, some will say 1 hour. I am not sure if some are more generous or if some are being honest and others are not. I would not expect to get more than 30 minutes no matter what they say; anything you get past that is a bonus.
The chicas complained how there were not many guys there that night. Apparently the previous night, Saturday night, was very good for them. I would say there were around 20 chicas there and maybe 6 or 7 guys.
I was really not planning on getting a chica unless one was just too good to resist. And one was close, but not quite. I expect a lot of value for 400 k and it's just not worth rolling the dice on a pretty chica with a very serious demeanor who you know is only interested in your money and is probably not that good in bed. I just enjoyed having the chicas come up to me and take their best shot. That was worth the cover for me. And of course, every 15 minutes or so, a chica will get on stage and dance.
A sure sign of how ridiculous the prices have gotten, I had two below average chicas sit with me in Fase II and offer to spend the rest of the night with me in my hotel for "only" 2. 4 million pesos. They offered this with very straight faces. I laughed hard. I probably would have paid them a small amount to keep them away from my hotel if that was necessary. They were not above a 4 or anyone's scale.
Who is paying these prices that makes these chicas think they can make multi-million peso offers?
I didn't go to Lleras Park because it was raining. And after what I just had heard, I shuttered to think what they might be offering at Gusto's, where you might actually find some 9's or 10's lurking in the shadows. You might also find a chica there who could make you the subject of a news article. With the rain, and being half way sure it was a ghost town on a Sunday night, I didn't even bother going down there. Maybe one of you nice fellas can tell me what I missed (or didn't).
DiscoverFL
06-04-24, 17:42
It was Sunday so I had very few options. I decided to visit The Club Swinger at Cra. 44 #25-45, El Poblado, Medelland, Antioquia, Colombia (https://www.theclubswinger.com).I meant to reply to this earlier. I have been there, and it was nice it is a pretty calm place (and I was there Saturday with a girl). But talking to folks who have been to the majority of swinger clubs in town, they recommend that the current 'happening' one is Lujuria Swinger Club (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cv3EMP5d1zthThik8). I haven't been yet, but will probably go check it out in my next in-town visit. I have no idea how their Sunday or similar gang-bang night is (it's Tuesday), but from their Facebook feed; seems they have 2-3 girls and may be a larger operation.
My boots are on the ground here in Medelland. Arrived yesterday and I have not seen much difference since the supposed prostitution ban started. There are several prominent signs at the airport warning against trafficking minors. But there were a large number of foreigners entering the country yesterday (6/2) and it took me about an hour to get through the customs line. Which is always the worst part of the trip to Medelland.
However, no one asked to see my phone and I was not hassled at all. Just stamped my passport and on I went.
I went on a date with a local girl in the evening and then headed over to Fase II to check it out. I arrived around 11 pm and there was a 40 k cover at the door. The selection of chicas was much better than I recalled, and there were a few I would consider hot.
As usual, the standard price for every chicas was 400 k. I am not sure how much time that buys. Some chicas will tell you 30 minutes, some will say 45, some will say 1 hour. I am not sure if some are more generous or if some are being honest and others are not. I would not expect to get more than 30 minutes no matter what they say; anything you get past that is a bonus.
The chicas complained how there were not many guys there that night. Apparently the previous night, Saturday night, was very good for them. I would say there were around 20 chicas there and maybe 6 or 7 guys.
I was really not planning on getting a chica unless one was just too good to resist. And one was close, but not quite. I expect a lot of value for 400 k and it's just not worth rolling the dice on a pretty chica with a very serious demeanor who you know is only interested in your money and is probably not that good in bed. I just enjoyed having the chicas come up to me and take their best shot. That was worth the cover for me. And of course, every 15 minutes or so, a chica will get on stage and dance.
A sure sign of how ridiculous the prices have gotten, I had two below average chicas sit with me in Fase II and offer to spend the rest of the night with me in my hotel for "only" 2. 4 million pesos. They offered this with very straight faces. I laughed hard. I probably would have paid them a small amount to keep them away from my hotel if that was necessary. They were not above a 4 or anyone's scale.
Who is paying these prices that makes these chicas think they can make multi-million peso offers?
I didn't go to Lleras Park because it was raining. And after what I just had heard, I shuttered to think what they might be offering at Gusto's, where you might actually find some 9's or 10's lurking in the shadows. You might also find a chica there who could make you the subject of a news article. With the rain, and being half way sure it was a ghost town on a Sunday night, I didn't even bother going down there. Maybe one of you nice fellas can tell me what I missed (or didn't).Were there any drink minimums? I need to knock off Fase on my bucket list but never like bottle / table minimums that get you entrenched in possible scams and take forever to leave.
If you never heard about these druggings and robberies, how do you know that there is a lot of them? I don't know how you can say that there is a lot when it is not reported and you never hear about them.As other guy commented, projected 65 dead this year if linear progress (a big assumption). I never knock someone for being vigilant, its being overconfident that is a detriment. That being said there's like 4 flights daily just from Spirit, just from Miami to MDE every day. Often feels like a quarter to half the plane are dudes there for action. In all the Lleras Park youtube vids you can see a lot doing the wrong moves; approaching clearly / debatable young chicas, getting hammered, sharing / open drinks, cash & wallet out, expensive phones out with selfie sticks, being obnoxious, being alone in alleys. With the hundreds in MDE every week, I'm surprised reported incidents aren't higher. So if the reported stats are relatively low, I'd extrapolate that by simply not doing those 7 wrongs greatly further aids success. Not be fearful, just be prepared.
I don't think they want their names to be on this site so I remove them.
ElSexoChino7
06-05-24, 07:19
Were there any drink minimums? I need to knock off Fase on my bucket list but never like bottle / table minimums that get you entrenched in possible scams and take forever to leave.No drink minimum on Fase dos and can confirm. I was there last April 2024 and wrote a detailed review about it. You can look it up.
When I went there, I only spent 1 corona beer (35 k, if I remember) and 1 drink (50 k, for some mixed drink LOL) for the girl that I decided to do the deed. They did not even pressure me to buy another drink, unlike the strip clubs in Santa Fe, Bogota, where they will make sure you spent money on drinks while inside or they will kick you out of the club LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-05-24, 09:07
The chicas complained how there were not many guys there that night.Did you explain to them that is what happens when you move the prices up to ridiculous amounts? Some guys will pay whatever, but most won't.
KapnAmerica
06-05-24, 13:42
No drink minimum on Fase dos and can confirm. I was there last April 2024 and wrote a detailed review about it. You can look it up.
When I went there, I only spent 1 corona beer (35 k, if I remember) and 1 drink (50 k, for some mixed drink LOL) for the girl that I decided to do the deed. They did not even pressure me to buy another drink, unlike the strip clubs in Santa Fe, Bogota, where they will make sure you spent money on drinks while inside or they will kick you out of the club LOL.That is correct. I am the ultimate cheapskate when it comes to drinks in places I don't trust, so I bought two bottles of water for 10 k each. However, it is a requirement that you tip each one of the dancers a minimum of 2 k after each dance. My total outlay for about an hour and a half, including the 40 k cover, was about 76 k pesos.
Nil Admirari
06-05-24, 15:40
No drink minimum on Fase dos and can confirm. I was there last April 2024 and wrote a detailed review about it....
In Fase II, there's no hassle if you sit / stand at the bar. Once having paid the entry fee, I've always ordered one beer or gatoraid, but I don't think there is a minimum drink requirement at all and no real pressure from the waiters to fork up. However, to sit at a table closer to the stage I think the club does require that you buy a bottle of liquor or a bucket of beers.
SomeMongerer
06-06-24, 04:23
Day 1: Went to park lleras. Walked around and saw a few cute ones. Didn't ask and just said Hi to a few. Ended up in a bar called bandidos? Since a blog recommended bandidos sea (close? Saw a really cut girl right away and sit down and ordered a beer (17 k?) and a lady drink for her (68 k). There was another group of customers besides me, 5-6 girls in total. She finished the drink after 10-15 minutes and asked for another one and I agreed. I think I can touch her legs but she won't allow me to kiss her saying it was not allowed by the management. 15 minutes later, she finished the drink again so I aked her for number and wanted to leave. She asked for another drink but I told her I will treat her when she comes out with me later. She was not happy and didn't even hug me when I left. Total damage 170 k. I later contacted her on whatsapp but no response. There was another cute girl in the bar but looks hard to take out.
Day 2: Went to Fase2 at 10 pm, paid 20 k cover (different than the previous report, this is a Tuesday), and then I was asked to buy a bottle or sth else (my spanish and the guy's english all suck), otherwise I have to sit at the bar. I chose the later. The bar chair was uncomfortable and I can't even turn the chair 180 degrees. Ordered a beer (40 k) and there were 20-25 girls, about 8-9 customers (3 tables) before me. There are a few more groups coming in later, half of them just sit alone and drink, others have 1 girl at each table. Some girls went on the stage dancing, they usually do 5-10 minutes walking, twerking around the pole and then took 2-3 minutes to get fully naked, and then walked off the stage. Not very interesting, and nothing comparing to tijuana strip clubs. None of those dancing girls are attractive to me. Other girls started to walk by and try to flirt but I politely waived them off because none of them are attractive to me (6-7 out of 10). There are 1-2 who looks like 8-9 from afar, but they just sit with their group and chat, so I didn't approach either. There was one really cute girl that I saw on my way in, but I think she was very shy and just hide in the corner so I didn't see her for the time I was there. Waited one hour and I was ready to leave, then on my way out I saw this shy girl with glasses again, the manager was talking to her. She looks a bit nevrous and doesn't really know what to do. She looks fun to interact with but I don't like my chair and I don't want to bring her to the bar table with me, so I just walked out. Total damage 60 k.
Went back to park lleras again, saw a few cute ones but none was solid 10 for me when I see them in close distance. Then I saw this really cute girl, the girl next her was waiving to me so I said Hi to them. They offered to have trio with me right away and asked for $200 for an hour. I asked the cute girl how much is it for her alone, she offered $120, then reduced it to $100. I took the offer then we walked to a hostel close to the park entrance, the hostel is $25. Both of us have to show our ids, and fill out a form with our address and phone number and the door is locked so one can not walk in and out without the permission from the lady at the counter. In the room, we showered together. Her face is really cute, teeth is bit crooked (doesn't look too bad). Her breasts were small and collapsed, looks like an old women, maybe its from pregancy. Butt is soft but not really bouncy. Face and everything else is 10 for me. She is a bit aggressive, cuddled for 2 minutes then she covered me with plastic and started blowing me. I started to play with her thigh and pussy, she didn't refuse it nor did she open up the full access to me. After 2-3 minutes, she mounted on me and started to fuck me. I circled her waist to slow her down and made her to go with my rhythm, she complied. 5 minutes later, she offered to do "perro" so I turned her down. Put a pillow under her belly and I started pounding her. She started to make some noise but sounds pretty fake. That's my favorite position so I didn't last long. Finished with a shower together and then she asked for a tip. I was going to tip her anyway so I did. When we walked out of the hostel together, she even waited till my uber arrived and made sure the car stopped in front of me. Really sweat paisa girl! Went back to my airbnb after that.
As other guy commented, projected 65 dead this year if linear progress. ...That being said there's like 4 flights daily just from Spirit, just from Miami to MDE every day. Often feels like a quarter to half the plane are dudes there for action. In all the Lleras Park youtube vids you can see a lot doing the wrong moves; approaching clearly / debatable young chicas, getting hammered, sharing / open drinks, cash & wallet out, expensive phones out with selfie sticks, being obnoxious, being alone in alleys. ... I'd extrapolate that by simply not doing those 7 wrongs greatly further aids success. Not be fearful, just be prepared.In order to reduce deaths overseas, I suggest a greater impact would be to change other types of behaviour. With all those flights from Miami, full with folks that look like they are ready to tumble over before they get off the plane, I suggest they stay out of McD and do some exercise. This would have a much greater impact on overseas deaths.
Thanks to everyone for your contributions. It really does make it easier.
I have been to Medellin 3 times now.
In my opinion best option is facebook. I met many chicas through that app. I had both positive and negative experiences with fb chicas. Negative being girl in person was more thicker than on fb or bad service. If you invest some time there, you can really find top girls (looks and performance). I have never paid more than 200 k mas uber. I usually book apartment or hotel with hot tub in room, so they spend few hours with me talking, fucking, drinking and most importantly taking photos with my phone (I get to keep all pictures). I also had one threesome, girl I knew and was good at sex asked me if her friend can join. I said yes because she wanted only 300 k for both. Other girl was not so hot and there was not real lesbian interaction between them so I would not repeat and reading this forum, most of you had similar experiences with threesomes.
I have been to few Centro casas, which I found okay. Depending on the day and time you can find some good looking girls there. Ones that I had were very friendly and provided good service. And sex is really cheap there.
I walked around Centro looking at streetwalkers, saw few I would bang, but still haven't found courage to fuck SW there.
Finish with a question: is there a forum or something with fb chicas? Would really help reading reviews from others to avoid booking bad chicas, especially since few wrote they were robbed by them. Thanks.
In Fase II, there's no hassle if you sit / stand at the bar. Once having paid the entry fee, I've always ordered one beer or gatoraid, but I don't think there is a minimum drink requirement at all and no real pressure from the waiters to fork up. However, to sit at a table closer to the stage I think the club does require that you buy a bottle of liquor or a bucket of beers.Good to know. I went to LaIsla once and didn't like how stationary you have to be at tables / booths. I only liked 15% of the girls and get annoyed from the aggressive swarming by the rest. Always nice to be able to cut and run easily. While I'm sure there's rules I'd rather just get a girls number.
Day 1: Went to park lleras. Walked around and saw a few cute ones. Didn't ask and just said Hi to a few. Ended up in a bar called bandidos? Since a blog recommended bandidos sea (close? Saw a really cut girl right away and sit down and ordered a beer (17 k?) and a lady drink for her (68 k). There was another group of customers besides me, 5-6 girls in total. She finished the drink after 10-15 minutes and asked for another one and I agreed. I think I can touch her legs but she won't allow me to kiss her saying it was not allowed by the management. 15 minutes later, she finished the drink again so I aked her for number and wanted to leave. She asked for another drink but I told her I will treat her when she comes out with me later. She was not happy and didn't even hug me when I left. Total damage 170 k. I later contacted her on whatsapp but no response. There was another cute girl in the bar but looks hard to take out.There are several bars in the Parque Lleras area with the same owner. They have ladies working the bars hustling guys for drinks. The ladies wear black "uniforms", usually with very short shorts. I have two friends who worked in those bars for a short time. You will not get any of those ladies to leave with you, not allowed. It's possible to meet them when they are not working, but I think your chances are very slim. One of my friends makes no bones about having sex for money. She told me she never had sex with any of the men she met in those bars. The ladies rotate among all those bars.
SomeMongerer
06-06-24, 16:58
There are several bars in the Parque Lleras area with the same owner. They have ladies working the bars hustling guys for drinks. The ladies wear black "uniforms", usually with very short shorts. I have two friends who worked in those bars for a short time. You will not get any of those ladies to leave with you, not allowed. It's possible to meet them when they are not working, but I think your chances are very slim. One of my friends makes no bones about having sex for money. She told me she never had sex with any of the men she met in those bars. The ladies rotate among all those bars.I totally agree now. I will stay away from those bars now.
El Mechanico
06-06-24, 17:58
Of course you need a Claro Sim and Claro phone number to use the claro app to register your phone. And if you had a Tigo sim card and phone number then you would use the Tigo app.
I think you misunderstood something in the process. If you don't have Claro then why the hell would you be using the Claro app? That's like if you had Verizon and we're trying to use the T-Mobile app.
The process is very simple I will outline it for you agn.
1.) When you are physically in Colombia purchase a Claro sim card and put a cheap plan on it at the claro store or gana or wherever (there's plans available from 3 mil to 31 mil pesos).
2.) Slap the sim card into your phone and you should have signal and data and be able to place phone calls and send/rec SMS to Colombian numbers.
3.) Now download the MiClaro App from the Playstore or Apple.
4.) Use your new phone number to register the app to your account.
5.) Within the app there will be the option to register the IMEI number of your phone with your passport or cedula so that it doesn't get blocked.
Make sure you do this within 30 days of first using the phone in Colombia or it will be blocked.
If you choose to use Tigo then the process is pretty much the same but the app is called MiTigo.
Any other questions?So we have established that you must have a Claro (or whatever Company simcard) and a Colombian phone number. Another thing that is not readily apparent is the new US passports are alpha-numeric & the Claro website will not accept the alpha part of the US passport number. This leads to more of a waste of time. Bottom line is and I will say it again, this is not "an easy process" by any stretch of the imagination. Next visit, I will go to a Claro store and see if they can register my phone! Aggravating AF!
El Mechanico.
SomeMongerer
06-06-24, 18:01
Day 3:
Checked lleras found a few pretty ones but wanted to check a few more places. Ubered to hotel m. There was no lighted sign outside so the driver was confused for a minute. Fortunately the door opened and a few chicas walked out. So I got in after paying 50 k cover. There were 2-3 customers there and about 10 girls in and out. Some look decent but not good enough for me. They are pretty friendly and chill you can chat with anyone and no drinks or tips were expected. However no one speaks English and the conversation is not going anywhere. Bounced after 30 minutes I hop on the taxi to lleras but I asked the driver if carrera 70 is better since a gentleman has told me that and the driver said it's better with more beautiful girls so he took me to the laurels, found 3-4 girls walking outside otherwise its just restaurants and bars. Turns out it's a misunderstanding and the driver confirmed later there are almost 0 working girls there. Back to lleras and was stopped by policía half way claiming they are looking for cocaine. They speak basic English and checked my bag belt area pockets and then my wallet. They didn't find anything or asked for bribes and let us go after about 5 minutes. In lleras park it's passed 1 and there seem to be more girls than earlier. Spotted this cute Delgado girl wearing a tight latex suit. After talking to her I know she is 25 why from venezuela looks good to me. We settled at 250 k and on we went to a nearby hostel. She took the shower and put the rubber on my still soft dick and started sucking, not anything special but she is a looker. Pretty face a little tired or mellow which I was about to find why. Fake perfectly round size see / the breasts, slim legs, soft and bubbly (original) butt. She could probably be a 10 in the clubs. We banged in a few positions with my broken Spanish and I can smell the rotten fish from down below but I hope that the plastic cover and shower after could repel any nasty bugs 🙏. And after about 10-20 minutes she wanted to take a break and pulled out something and inhaled them. I asked if it's the white stuff she kinda confirmed it and asked if I wanted some. I declined and continued to pound her. By that time I don't want to enjoy her body anymore and just want to finish so I did. We chatted about 5 minutes while she got dressed and while I was still trying to dress up she just said bye and left. I know a lot these gals do drugs but this is the first time someone inhaled it in front of me in the middle of our business. The most memorable things of the night was the police shake down and the white powder instead of the sex. Well, it's always hit and miss. Guess I will try to avoid venes from now on no matter how attractive they are.
Zona Rosa Hotel, across from Veracruz Church – 16 K pesos for ½ hour. If you buy beer, it is 4 K pesos.
Hotel Cascada Plaza, 26, CL. 51 #53, La Candelaria. Behind Veracruz Church, on other side of the main street (Carrrera 53) above the corner bar. 20 K for half hour and trashy room.
Occasionales Botero Real, at the side of Veracruz Chruch – 11 K pesos for ½ hour. Nicest room of the three hotels I listed here. It has a bathroom that you actually would want to use.
Mojo Bandit
06-07-24, 01:11
According to the article 27 non-immigrant foreigners dead in 5 months. At this rate we are looking at 65 by year's end. I am known to press my luck, but not like that.Is non-immigrant Foreigner just another way of saying tourist and if so how many of these do you think are probably mongers?
Any recent experiences with the popular Airbnb towers like Wake or Energy guest rules? Youtube reviews are 4+ months old. Reached out to a Wake Airbnb owner with no reply on confirming guest rules. It is on the listing, but with recent Lleras changes and the disconnect between Host and facility at times. It makes me uneasy.
I won't even be going wild. Mostly repeat chicas and the opportunity for 3 some. All with physical passports, no Vennies. Not even trying to bring street girls. I could downsize but since I was in a small mellow Airbnb in Sabaneta last time, I want to splurge a little more on a nice view, aesthetics, and a hot tub.
Is non-immigrant Foreigner just another way of saying tourist and if so how many of these do you think are probably mongers?Stupid arse! How would he know?
Mojo Bandit
06-07-24, 02:17
Any recent experiences with the popular Airbnb towers like Wake or Energy guest rules? Youtube reviews are 4+ months old. Reached out to a Wake Airbnb owner with no reply on confirming guest rules. It is on the listing, but with recent Lleras changes and the disconnect between Host and facility at times. It makes me uneasy.
I won't even be going wild. Mostly repeat chicas and the opportunity for 3 some. All with physical passports, no Vennies. Not even trying to bring street girls. I could downsize but since I was in a small mellow Airbnb in Sabaneta last time, I want to splurge a little more on a nice view, aesthetics, and a hot tub.You need to be persistent in asking different owners, I was told that the owners can set different rules for their apartments than the building rules.
If you google 'Medellin vacation apartment Energy Living' many will come up. Just start writing to owners or management companies until some answer you but do not stop at one or two answers if they do not say what you want them to say.
Mr Enternational
06-07-24, 04:26
Is non-immigrant Foreigner just another way of saying tourist and if so how many of these do you think are probably mongers?No, because there are also Colombian nationals who are tourists in Medellin. No idea how many are mongers.
Zona Rosa Hotel, across from Veracruz Church 16 K pesos for hour. If you buy beer, it is 4 K pesos..1.I think that should be probably be 3 hours.
Is non-immigrant Foreigner just another way of saying tourist and if so how many of these do you think are probably mongers?I think that is a way to exclude Venezuelans in the calculation.
Zona Rosa Hotel, across from Veracruz Church 16 K pesos for hour. If you buy beer, it is 4 K pesos.
Hotel Cascada Plaza, 26, CL. 51 #53, La Candelaria. Behind Veracruz Church, on other side of the main street (Carrrera 53) above the corner bar. 20 K for half hour and trashy room.
Occasionales Botero Real, at the side of Veracruz Chruch 11 K pesos for hour. Nicest room of the three hotels I listed here. It has a bathroom that you actually would want to use.Zona Rosa charged 10 mil Last time I went there in March.
Botero Real is in fact 11 mil now, used to be 9 mil but they raised it to 11 mil back in February of this year.
Think there is some confusion about hotel cascada. The one on the pura esquina above the corner bar, that one is called hotel Venecia and charges 10 mil sometimes and 20 mil other times, not sure how they determine which price to charge maybe if they think you're a gringo they charge you the 20 k?
The one further down behind hotel Venecia and after the little furniture shops that is the one called hotel Cascada and it is across from the entrance of a crappy Centro Comercial called CC La Cascada which sells light bulbs and shit, they charged 10 mil last time I went there.
There is another one diaganal across from Venecia called Hotel Brisas de Jardín they also charge 10 k.
All are supposed to be a half hour but the ones on Cra 53 will knock sooner than Botero Real, also as the OP mentioned Botero Real is cleaner with better rooms and better security.
You had the perfect experience. You found your happy place and had no mishaps other than the odd dud performance we all suffer from time to time. I'm not aware of facebook specific forums. There is a local review forum that focuses on the photoprepago / mileroticos scene. All those girls of course have facebook so that might be close equivalent. It is called catadorcolombia and there is a small English language section.
Thanks to everyone for your contributions. It really does make it easier.
I have been to Medellin 3 times now.
In my opinion best option is facebook. I met many chicas through that app. I had both positive and negative experiences with fb chicas. Negative being girl in person was more thicker than on fb or bad service. If you invest some time there, you can really find top girls (looks and performance). I have never paid more than 200 k mas uber. I usually book apartment or hotel with hot tub in room, so they spend few hours with me talking, fucking, drinking and most importantly taking photos with my phone (I get to keep all pictures). I also had one threesome, girl I knew and was good at sex asked me if her friend can join. I said yes because she wanted only 300 k for both. Other girl was not so hot and there was not real lesbian interaction between them so I would not repeat and reading this forum, most of you had similar experiences with threesomes.
I have been to few Centro casas, which I found okay. Depending on the day and time you can find some good looking girls there. Ones that I had were very friendly and provided good service. And sex is really cheap there.
I walked around Centro looking at streetwalkers, saw few I would bang, but still haven't found courage to fuck SW there.
Finish with a question: is there a forum or something with fb chicas? Would really help reading reviews from others to avoid booking bad chicas, especially since few wrote they were robbed by them. Thanks.
JonesLover
06-07-24, 17:15
Hi, if you book an apartment in Medellin and have a beautiful girl move into your apartment for 1 week full time. When you leave, how much would you give her in money + or -? I was in Medellin many years ago and now I think it's all different. .
Thank you for making me understand better.
I think that should be probably be 3 hours.You are right. I was using 1/2 to say half hour and the forum automatically omitted that. So, here is the re-post but also, consider what Gabacho responded with as that seems to be more detail information. I must be detected as a gringo so charged more.
Zona Rosa Hotel, across from Veracruz Church – 16 K pesos for half hour. If you buy beer, it is 4 K pesos.
Hotel Cascada Plaza, 26, CL. 51 #53, La Candelaria. Behind Veracruz Church, on other side of the main street (Carrrera 53) above the corner bar. 20 K for half hour and trashy room.
Occasionales Botero Real, at the side of Veracruz Chruch – 11 K pesos for half hour. Nicest room of the three hotels I listed here. It has a bathroom that you actually would want to use.
Inflation is out of control! Hahaha The 30 K rate is pretty much history too. We will get by.
Zona Rosa charged 10 mil Last time I went there in March.
Botero Real is in fact 11 mil now, used to be 9 mil but they raised it to 11 mil back in February of this year.
Think there is some confusion about hotel cascada. The one on the pura esquina above the corner bar, that one is called hotel Venecia and charges 10 mil sometimes and 20 mil other times, not sure how they determine which price to charge maybe if they think you're a gringo they charge you the 20 k?
The one further down behind hotel Venecia and after the little furniture shops that is the one called hotel Cascada and it is across from the entrance of a crappy Centro Comercial called CC La Cascada which sells light bulbs and shit, they charged 10 mil last time I went there.
There is another one diaganal across from Venecia called Hotel Brisas de Jardn they also charge 10 k.
All are supposed to be a half hour but the ones on Cra 53 will knock sooner than Botero Real, also as the OP mentioned Botero Real is cleaner with better rooms and better security.
Thanks to everyone for your contributions. It really does make it easier.
I have been to Medellin 3 times now.
In my opinion best option is facebook. I met many chicas through that app. I had both positive and negative experiences with fb chicas. Negative being girl in person was more thicker than on fb or bad service. If you invest some time there, you can really find top girls (looks and performance). I have never paid more than 200 k mas uber. I usually book apartment or hotel with hot tub in room, so they spend few hours with me talking, fucking, drinking and most importantly taking photos with my phone (I get to keep all pictures). I also had one threesome, girl I knew and was good at sex asked me if her friend can join. I said yes because she wanted only 300 k for both. Other girl was not so hot and there was not real lesbian interaction between them so I would not repeat and reading this forum, most of you had similar experiences with threesomes.
I have been to few Centro casas, which I found okay. Depending on the day and time you can find some good looking girls there. Ones that I had were very friendly and provided good service. And sex is really cheap there.
I walked around Centro looking at streetwalkers, saw few I would bang, but still haven't found courage to fuck SW there.
Finish with a question: is there a forum or something with fb chicas? Would really help reading reviews from others to avoid booking bad chicas, especially since few wrote they were robbed by them. Thanks.How do you normally go about finding girls on Facebook? I literally have know idea how to even start searching.
How do you normally go about finding girls on Facebook? I literally have know idea how to even start searching.Search for Medellin. Add any young Latina who isn't a nun. Add her friends. Send flirty emojis to their stories. The ones that reply, ask for their WhatsApp. If conversation is going well, say you would love to meet. If you keep this up soon you will have a substantial friend list and they will start adding you. Don't fall in love with the first one who engages you in conversation.
Don't buy content. Don't give any gifts until after they have done what you want them to do. Avoid tinder. Use Uber, not taxis. Stay in places that will check your guests ID. No Colombian man is your friend. Never be drunk in public. Never leave a drink unattended.
You are right. I was using 1/2 to say half hour and the forum automatically omitted that. So, here is the re-post but also, consider what Gabacho responded with as that seems to be more detail information. I must be detected as a gringo so charged more.
Zona Rosa Hotel, across from Veracruz Church 16 K pesos for half hour. If you buy beer, it is 4 K pesos.
Hotel Cascada Plaza, 26, CL. 51 #53, La Candelaria. Behind Veracruz Church, on other side of the main street (Carrrera 53) above the corner bar. 20 K for half hour and trashy room.
Occasionales Botero Real, at the side of Veracruz Chruch 11 K pesos for half hour. Nicest room of the three hotels I listed here. It has a bathroom that you actually would want to use.Also I forgot to mention that hotel Zona Rosa they charge more of you take the condom they give you. If you tell them you brought your own condom they charge you less. A simple "tengo mis condones" and hand jesture will suffice.
This is true. An easier way to get the point across if you are not comfortable with Spanish is to hand the condom back to the reception person and say "ya tengo."
Also I forgot to mention that hotel Zona Rosa they charge more of you take the condom they give you. If you tell them you brought your own condom they charge you less. A simple "tengo mis condones" and hand jesture will suffice.
Mojo Bandit
06-08-24, 16:43
Stupid arse! How would he know?Maybe you need to go back to the first grade and learn how to read. I asked him what he THOUGHT, NOT what he KNOWS. Considering how much time this man has spent in that country and how much it gets around. I never underestimate him about anything. But too answer your question - of he had maybe been following detailed stories about each of these deaths he might have a good ideal - like this story mentioned there was woman who came in and then left at 3 am - given the man's age you would be stupid to not think he was a monger.
Hi, if you book an apartment in Medellin and have a beautiful girl move into your apartment for 1 week full time. When you leave, how much would you give her in money + or -? I was in Medellin many years ago and now I think it's all different. .
Thank you for making me understand better.You would find out up front what it is going to cost. And if you actually could find someone that would agree to do this I would be very very suspicious. What real girl can drop everything in the rest of her life and come and live with a stranger for a week. I would not be surprised if you would be drugged and robbed by anyone that would actually agree to that arrangement.
Search for Medellin. Add any young Latina who isn't a nun. Add her friends. Send flirty emojis to their stories. The ones that reply, ask for their WhatsApp. If conversation is going well, say you would love to meet. If you keep this up soon you will have a substantial friend list and they will start adding you. Don't fall in love with the first one who engages you in conversation.
I assume you will create a Fake FB profile? Its going to show you as new, will the account get banned by FB?
Anyone know the guest policy of Hotel Dorado La 70?
DonCarlos1234
06-09-24, 01:33
You would find out up front what it is going to cost. And if you actually could find someone that would agree to do this I would be very very suspicious. What real girl can drop everything in the rest of her life and come and live with a stranger for a week. I would not be surprised if you would be drugged and robbed by anyone that would actually agree to that arrangement.LOL so a 2 week trip to multiple destinations in Colombia. Is a guaranteed drugging for me? Yes, dah you should ask upfront. I think it depends on if she is a complete stranger, then yes dangerous! If hiring a sex slave, good luck. But if some form of GFE, relationship, what kind of girl and many other variables. This forum might be the wrong place for this question. Try SA group. Sex slaves forum or ask the girl. pay her what she asks
This is true. An easier way to get the point across if you are not comfortable with Spanish is to hand the condom back to the reception person and say "ya tengo."I don't use them most the time anyways LOL. I have a literal stock pile of the purple ones from Botero Real in my sock drawer.
MiamiSammy
06-09-24, 05:31
Anyone know the guest policy of Hotel Dorado La 70?It's a nice place. They'll want to check her ID. Best best is to walk in with her and leave with her. Best suggestion is never bring a girl to your room.
Wanted to check in to see if Medellin was still under a crackdown on women. I can either travel to Colombia for a cheaper flight and likely women expenses or goto Sao Paulo for my first tour.
Will my USD go further in Medellin or any other Colombia country if the sole purpose is meeting up with women, and would a week be enough time?
StarletVoyager
06-09-24, 11:44
I've been doing german FKK clubs for years. Came into some cash and recently developed a big liking for pretty colombian babes. I haven't studied this forum yet carefully so please bear with me. I'm uk based and thinking to do 10 days in medellin. First time in S. America. Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find the most beautiful girls in medellin irresepective of cost. Its my first time so accessability ie finding these girls easily is paramount. A place where many beauities are present. My ideal set up would be a club or spa with health facilities open day and night where a selection of the most beautiful girls are present. Ill be staying in a top rated holiday in medellin. Its a once in a lifetime trip I want it to special. Many thanks.
It's a nice place. They'll want to check her ID. Best best is to walk in with her and leave with her. Best suggestion is never bring a girl to your room.I'm going to see a few regulars I know very well. I wanted to stay in Laureles and got a good deal on Expedia. Just wanted to make sure they aren't like the some hotels that will either not let you have an overnight guest or will charge you $40-80 for each additional guest after the first guest.
If you never heard about these druggings and robberies, how do you know that there is a lot of them? I don't know how you can say that there is a lot when it is not reported and you never hear about them.Lots of druggings go unreported. Go to the US Embassy in Bogota. There is a long line of guys who got drugged in Medellin and lost everything and trying to get a passport so they can go home. My friend saw this himself when he went to take care of personal matters at the US Embassy in Bogota. He said even staff confirmed it.
StarletVoyager
06-09-24, 14:55
I've been doing german FKK clubs for years. Came into some cash and recently developed a big liking for pretty colombian babes. I haven't studied this forum yet carefully so please bear with me. I'm uk based and thinking to do 10 days in medellin. First time in S. America. Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find the most beautiful girls in medellin irresepective of cost. Its my first time so accessability ie finding these girls easily is paramount. A place where many beauities are present. My ideal set up would be a club or spa with health facilities open day and night where a selection of the most beautiful girls are present. Ill be staying in a top rated holiday in medellin. Its a once in a lifetime trip I want it to special. Many thanks.I'm struggling to make sense of or find any established patterns of doing things here.
I meant to reply to this earlier. I have been there, and it was nice it is a pretty calm place (and I was there Saturday with a girl). But talking to folks who have been to the majority of swinger clubs in town, they recommend that the current 'happening' one is Lujuria Swinger Club (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cv3EMP5d1zthThik8). I haven't been yet, but will probably go check it out in my next in-town visit. I have no idea how their Sunday or similar gang-bang night is (it's Tuesday), but from their Facebook feed; seems they have 2-3 girls and may be a larger operation.Thanks for the contribution. This goes to everyone. I am a newbie. Never been to a swingers bar in Colombia. So, apologies for the newbie questions. You walk in, pay a cover I imagine and go to your locker and undress. Do you wear flip flops with a towel? Or underwear and flip flops or barefoot? I have no idea what the dress code / etiquette / culture is inside once you enter.
Secondly, for those who've been on a Friday / Saturday, is it worth it? Do the locals mix with the gringos? Are there smoke shows or is it just like a typical disco, hit or miss? Age range you reckon? 40+ or 25+ ? Guys with prepagos?
Many thanks!
You would find out up front what it is going to cost. And if you actually could find someone that would agree to do this I would be very very suspicious. What real girl can drop everything in the rest of her life and come and live with a stranger for a week. I would not be surprised if you would be drugged and robbed by anyone that would actually agree to that arrangement.I'll add in. Don't commit to doing this with a girl until after you have "sampled" her short-time. No matter how hot-looking a girl is, you have no idea how you're going to get along with her if you're together 24/7.
Related to that, the funds shouldn't be dispersed day 1. If you do that, it's highly likely she doesn't honor the length of the "contract. ".
Hi, if you book an apartment in Medellin and have a beautiful girl move into your apartment for 1 week full time. When you leave, how much would you give her in money + or -? I was in Medellin many years ago and now I think it's all different. .
Thank you for making me understand better.Just give her the pipe, some dudes just do that and nothing more. Others who pay it is variable. Talk to a few and you will get an estimate.
JackTaggart
06-09-24, 16:20
I'm struggling to make sense of or find any established patterns of doing things here.In all your struggling. Have you tried reading the massive amount of information on the fourm? Including specifics about places over the last 20 pages? There are many really long and specific reports.
Medellin is definitely not the FKK scene though.
StarletVoyager
06-09-24, 16:24
Ok its starting to slowly make sense. The objective is to find the best looking girls without lots of research and searching for a first time visit to S. America from uk. So far.
1) loutron. Groups of girls present.
2) girls energy. Like wise.
3) energy spa.
4) stay at hotel M. 9's and 10's girls at night easily present inside hotel. can i take girls from outside into hotel m?
5) now where to find the best girls to take back for overnite stays. Head to Lleras park?
Comon guys help me out. The most attractive chicas with an emphasis on white chicas. Cost no object. Is hotel M the place to stay for a first timer and girls are in the bar at nite to take to my room?
I'm on the german FKK thread and available for tons of help.
I never go to MDE here are a few girls that are on my FB from over the years-- Knock yourself out.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100046575785339
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100007263677804
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011263449785
Husker Dude
06-09-24, 17:04
Ok its starting to slowly make sense. The objective is to find the best looking girls without lots of research and searching for a first time visit to S. America from uk. So far.
1) loutron. Groups of girls present.
2) girls energy. Like wise.
3) energy spa.
4) stay at hotel M. 9's and 10's girls at night easily present inside hotel. can i take girls from outside into hotel m?
5) now where to find the best girls to take back for overnite stays. Head to Lleras park?
Comon guys help me out. The most attractive chicas with an emphasis on white chicas. Cost no object. Is hotel M the place to stay for a first timer and girls are in the bar at nite to take to my room?
I'm on the german FKK thread and available for tons of help.Staying at Hotel M is great for first timers. LOL you will not find 9-10's at the bar. More like 6-7's. Very friendly though. You can bring in outsiders to Hotel M, but they must have a valid cedula and not have been banned from there. All the chicas are latina's not white, but many are lighter skinned. Hotel M is usually pretty full so make reservations far in advance, at least 6 mo out.
Anyone know the guest policy of Hotel Dorado La 70?I stayed there for a few days back in October.
On booking.com FAQs they say additional guests are charged at 100 k.
There's a list of houses rules in the room stating the joiner fee is 57 k or something.
I only had 2 girls visit me but wasn't charged any extra fees either when I checked them in or when I finally checked out.
Maybe if I'd been trailing in & out with several different girls a day things would have been different?
Or maybe they like to advertise their joiner policy to put off mongers?
My guests had their ID properly checked & there was a call to my room when they departed.
There's a list of house.
JackTaggart
06-09-24, 17:35
Ok its starting to slowly make sense. The objective is to find the best looking girls without lots of research and searching for a first time visit to S. America from uk. So far.
1) loutron. Groups of girls present.
2) girls energy. Like wise.
3) energy spa.
4) stay at hotel M. 9's and 10's girls at night easily present inside hotel. can i take girls from outside into hotel m?
5) now where to find the best girls to take back for overnite stays. Head to Lleras park?
Comon guys help me out. The most attractive chicas with an emphasis on white chicas. Cost no object. Is hotel M the place to stay for a first timer and girls are in the bar at nite to take to my room?
I'm on the german FKK thread and available for tons of help.What is a white chica for you? Seriously asking. Are you talking literal skin color? Or are you talking race? Because in Colombia the woman are latinas. Which would not be considered white. A white person wouldn't really be Colombian
. Like Irish. Or polish. Or English. Or maybe french of German.
Either way. There are not so many "white" woman. Particularly in Medellin. I've certainly met some girls that were pretty white. But most are at least a bit tan.
Because it's Colombia.
So I am kinda if fascinated what you mean. Maybe some pictures of what you are looking for would be helpful.
StarletVoyager
06-09-24, 17:41
What is a white chica for you? Seriously asking. Are you talking literal skin color? Or are you talking race? Because in Colombia the woman are latinas. Which would not be considered white. A white person would be a gringo. Like Irish. Or polish. Or English. Or maybe french of German.
Either way. There are not so many "white" woman. Particularly in Medellin. I've certainly met some girls that were pretty white. But most are at least a bit tan.
Because it's Colombia.
So I am kinda if fascinated what you mean. Maybe some pictures of what you are looking for would be helpful.I love the latin "tanned" girls of course. When I use the term white I mean those colombian girls with slightly paler skin from which the spanish european heritage is more noticeable.
Are you able to give me some feedback on my points as a first time visitor. I'm keen to know if hotel m is the best place to stay as a first timer and can I take girls from outside back there? I understand the hotel has its own beauties. Finally which is the most upmarket strip club with the best looking girls in medellin. Thanks to everyone and the patience shown with my barrage of enquiries. or is bogota better>???
Hi, if you book an apartment in Medellin and have a beautiful girl move into your apartment for 1 week full time. When you leave, how much would you give her in money + or -? I was in Medellin many years ago and now I think it's all different. .
Thank you for making me understand better.I have done this several times, but you need to accept that YMMV. First, 7 days with the same woman, whether you have met her before or not, is too long. She is younger, different society, wants and needs, and you will have too many awkward moments. Break it up into 2-3 days with one, so two for the week. Second, be very clear about your expectations before she agrees, although it's possible she changes her mind once with you. She should be local, so give her the money for the day and show her out. If you fly her in, book a changeable flight, change it for same day or tomorrow, show her out. Third, avoid yogis. They tell you the energy is not there, dark aura, Saturn's ass is not aligned with Jupiter's mouth. You get my point.
The ones that will agree to this either don't have kids, or kids are older, and don't work or can take vacation from work. Many now ask for 1 million pesos per day, I refuse to go over 500 K per day.
As others said on here, better to know them before short term, less chances of problems with poor mileage, aggressive behavior. Ask for ID / Cedula photo, to register with the rental or hotel, and for your security. Video chat with her before, message, see if she is mute most of the time, as then she mostly about the money and mechanical. The rest, good luck.
Exoticspirit
06-09-24, 23:18
I'm keen to know if hotel m is the best place to stay as a first timer and can I take girls from outside back there? I understand the hotel has its own beauties. Finally which is the most upmarket strip club with the best looking girls in medellin. Thanks to everyone and the patience shown with my barrage of enquiries. or is bogota better>???I stayed at hotel M as a first timer to Medellin just several weeks ago and enjoyed my stay there. I wrote about my trip on this thread as well as the Casa Blanca section.
Only negative is that this hotel is not 'upscale' as it is rather dated but I didn't mind. The pros for me definitely outweighed the cons. Security was great, chicas were good enough for me and easy to meet just downstairs and then take them up. Also one other thing which is great that I think is a huge benefit for first timers travelling solo is that at the hotel and the attached bar, other guest mongers are super friendly and the veterans are always open to offer tips not only about how things work with the girls but also the Medellin area. One new friend I met there even took me for a walk from the hotel up to Parque Lleras and Provencia for a tour and back. This type of comraderie will usually not be possible if you come alone and stay somewhere else alone.
Does anyone know what happened to the Airbnb rental close to 'Bar Licolleras'? It had private access, thus there was no restriction on guests. This is extremely rare in the area.
I stayed at hotel M as a first timer to Medellin just several weeks ago and enjoyed my stay there. I wrote about my trip on this thread as well as the Casa Blanca section.
Only negative is that this hotel is not 'upscale' as it is rather dated but I didn't mind. The pros for me definitely outweighed the cons. Security was great, chicas were good enough for me and easy to meet just downstairs and then take them up. Also one other thing which is great that I think is a huge benefit for first timers travelling solo is that at the hotel and the attached bar, other guest mongers are super friendly and the veterans are always open to offer tips not only about how things work with the girls but also the Medellin area. One new friend I met there even took me for a walk from the hotel up to Parque Lleras and Provencia for a tour and back. This type of comraderie will usually not be possible if you come alone and stay somewhere else alone.Wondering what your experience (s) was like? I've been reading the forum for years and planning on going soon. Nobody writes about Hotel M much anymore. I'm looking for GFE type experiences, not a 1 hour bang and run. I've done the Tijuana thing more than I can count, but I'm tired of the shitty service and constant upsells. I want to hangout, mess around, hang out some more, mess around some more etc.
I've been doing german FKK clubs for years. I'm thinking to do 10 days in medellin. First time in S. America. Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find the most beautiful girls in medellin irresepective of cost. A place where many beauities are present. My ideal set up would be a club or spa with health facilities open day and night where a selection of the most beautiful girls are present. TBH I would stick to FKK. You will not find that kind of set up in MDE. There are plenty of girls and plenty of places, but you would need to check them out to see if the girls were to your taste. Also I don't know of any large places that have stacks of girls. Most have 10 to 20 each, and of those some might suit you.
Exoticspirit
06-10-24, 11:16
Wondering what your experience (s) was like? I've been reading the forum for years and planning on going soon. Nobody writes about Hotel M much anymore. I enjoyed my stay at Hotel M and wrote about my overall Medellin experience as a first timer on my trip review here on this Medellin thread. You just need to backtrack to about the last week of May to get there and I also wrote a review about specifically about Hotel M at the Casa Blanca section. I think a lot of new guys are missing that section if they don't know that the former name of Hotel M was Casa Blanca. Maybe the name of that thread should be updated since that property is still very much a factor in the Medellin mongering scene.
..Finally which is the most upmarket strip club with the best looking girls in medellin. You should go to Brazil to find what you are looking for. There is nothing upmarket in Medellin as far as club ambience goes. You said money is not a problem, then you should go to Sao Paulo. You can easily find more than 100 girls in a club. Brazil is much more diverse in look, and the girl keep the service level up to be competitive at the price which is not what you will get in Medellin. You get less service at higher price relative to the past on average. Medellin is very cheap, and has large quantity but a lot of it is hidden from a new visitor.
.... I must be detected as a gringo so charged more.For what it is worth, that rate exists since before pandemic but it is for more than 30 minutes. My guess is they must have added a new price tier to be competitive. The only way that they gave you gringo price is if you told them it's for 30 minutes and they still charged you 16000.
DiscoverFL
06-10-24, 16:05
Thanks for the contribution. This goes to everyone. I am a newbie. Never been to a swingers bar in Colombia. So, apologies for the newbie questions. You walk in, pay a cover I imagine and go to your locker and undress. Do you wear flip flops with a towel? Or underwear and flip flops or barefoot? I have no idea what the dress code / etiquette / culture is inside once you enter.
Secondly, for those who've been on a Friday / Saturday, is it worth it? Do the locals mix with the gringos? Are there smoke shows or is it just like a typical disco, hit or miss? Age range you reckon? 40+ or 25+ ? Guys with prepagos?My advice is if you are not familiar with Swinger Clubs in other countries, don't go. They all operate about the same, and it can be a lot calmer and less blatantly sexual than people who have never been expect. But with a girl (or two) you are into it can be a fun erotic experience. But I would not go to one 'seeking sex' with others.
DiscoverFL
06-10-24, 16:11
Staying at Hotel M is great for first timers. LOL you will not find 9-10's at the bar. More like 6-7's. Very friendly though. You can bring in outsiders to Hotel M, but they must have a valid cedula and not have been banned from there. All the chicas are Latina's not white, but many are lighter skinned. Hotel M is usually pretty full so make reservations far in advance, at least 6 mo. out. Agree with everything, except the quality of the girls. While it really varies, this is a very subjective thing, as I have some personal 9-10's that I have met there and go there often. So, it all depends on your personal tastes and preferences. Had one over last night and was asking her about her views of the Hotel M / Casa Blanca /'Cueva' bar and she told me (paraphrasing) "I go like once a week to meet up with my girlfriends and drink free, but not to find guys. If someone interesting shows up, then great. But I don't go there for that. " -- so seems she just sees it as a socializing / meetup location for like-minded girls.
Staying at Hotel M is great for first timers. LOL you will not find 9-10's at the bar. More like 6-7's. Very friendly though. You can bring in outsiders to Hotel M, but they must have a valid cedula and not have been banned from there. All the chicas are latina's not white, but many are lighter skinned. Hotel M is usually pretty full so make reservations far in advance, at least 6 mo out.Is this hotel M http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/reservations.html ? Looks like you can't make a reservation online?
Exoticspirit
06-10-24, 22:21
Is this hotel M http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/reservations.html ? Looks like you can't make a reservation online?That's right. You need to reserve via email. They are pretty responsive.
Exoticspirit
06-10-24, 22:23
Agree with everything, except the quality of the girls. While it really varies, this is a very subjective thing, as I have some personal 9-10's that I have met there and go there often. So, it all depends on your personal tastes and preferences. Had one over last night and was asking her about her views of the Hotel M / Casa Blanca /'Cueva' bar and she told me (paraphrasing) "I go like once a week to meet up with my girlfriends and drink free, but not to find guys. If someone interesting shows up, then great. But I don't go there for that. " -- so seems she just sees it as a socializing / meetup location for like-minded girls.To me it's just a smaller sample size of what you will find at Parque Lleras anyway. I've been told that if girls at the bar don't get any customers, they will head over to the park anyway. And if they strike out there, some might actually return to the bar to see what's going on.
Medclubber
06-11-24, 01:00
I've been doing german FKK clubs for years. Came into some cash and recently developed a big liking for pretty colombian babes. I haven't studied this forum yet carefully so please bear with me. I'm uk based and thinking to do 10 days in medellin. First time in S. America. Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find the most beautiful girls in medellin irresepective of cost. Its my first time so accessability ie finding these girls easily is paramount. A place where many beauities are present. My ideal set up would be a club or spa with health facilities open day and night where a selection of the most beautiful girls are present. Ill be staying in a top rated holiday in medellin. Its a once in a lifetime trip I want it to special. Many thanks.Most beautiful girls you'll find at:
* La Isla. Bit of a hit and miss though. Come in around 0:00, Thursday / Friday / Saturday for highest chances of running into a real hottie.
* Loutron. Also hit and miss, but also some hotties to be found.
* Gusto.
The above are expensive options but they certainly have higher chances of running into a real stunner. But you always need a bit of luck. I've seen some really hot women at the above venue's, playmate material, but also had visits where there just weren't any real hot women available. The best looking woman I ever had in medellin was on a sunday night at La Isla though, it was a real quite night and I was about to give it up and go home when she stepped in. She told me that she didnt visit that much, had a long list of clients so she didnt need to visit La isla that much. Also never saw her after that again. So yeah, you do need a bit of luck but really hot women can be found in Medellin for sure.
I've been doing german FKK clubs for years. Came into some cash and recently developed a big liking for pretty colombian babes. I haven't studied this forum yet carefully so please bear with me. I'm uk based and thinking to do 10 days in medellin. First time in S. America. Can someone point me in the right direction as to where to find the most beautiful girls in medellin irresepective of cost. Its my first time so accessability ie finding these girls easily is paramount. A place where many beauities are present. My ideal set up would be a club or spa with health facilities open day and night where a selection of the most beautiful girls are present. Ill be staying in a top rated holiday in medellin. Its a once in a lifetime trip I want it to special. Many thanks.I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it.
If you have time, Seeking.com and Instagram are another options. In both cases, get the deal on Whatsup, as you will get banned otherwise on these platforms. I chatted with a few girls but did not meet up with any of them.
I stayed at NH Collection Medellíand Royal, A suite was $150 a night. Its also secure as they will hold keep the copy the girls ID. They were suppose to charge me $40 for each girl but I never got charged becuase on my first day I gave the night manger a bottle of perfume I got from Dutyfree and he was my best friend for the next 10 days. I was tipping every one from the guy at the bar to bell boy to pool staff very well and got treated like a king.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.
I had a fantastic time for about 20% of what it would have cost in the US, and the girls were a lot better in looks and attitude.
HarigeHarry
06-11-24, 13:09
I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it.
If you have time, Seeking.com and Instagram are another options. In both cases, get the deal on Whatsup, as you will get banned otherwise on these platforms. I chatted with a few girls but did not meet up with any of them.
I stayed at NH Collection Medelland Royal, A suite was $150 a night. Its also secure as they will hold keep the copy the girls ID. They were suppose to charge me $40 for each girl but I never got charged becuase on my first day I gave the night manger a bottle of perfume I got from Dutyfree and he was my best friend for the next 10 days. I was tipping every one from the guy at the bar to bell boy to pool staff very well and got treated like a king.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.
I had a fantastic time for about 20% of what it would have cost in the US, and the girls were a lot better in looks and attitude.1 k usd for one hour! In Colombia? I mean that kind of money gets you the hottest girls in USA, or Dubai or other places where you pay high extra fees for prostitution being illegal and the difference in standard of living. But in Colombia, that's just insane. No hate from me BTW, I overspend on women too, have no problems paying 600 k if she's really hot even though I know you can get really hot girls cheaper if you invest time and energy. But 4 milion for an hour, damn. I have money to spend but damn, I'd just feel ripped off.
Never heard of that website you link BTW, doesn't seem better than photoprepagos.com.
1 k usd for one hour! In Colombia? ......].I did not see where he said that. I saw US $600 equivalent for 5 hours.
Nil Admirari
06-11-24, 15:24
1 k usd for one hour! In Colombia? I mean that kind of money gets you the hottest girls in USA, or Dubai or other places where you pay high extra fees for prostitution being illegal and the difference in standard of living.... photoprepagos.com.
ObjJay wrote that "In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip. " At home in Los Angeles, not Colombia.
I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it..And at these prices every single girl I see would give be almost every desired service I would want. With the exception of BBFS. But anal CIM facials etc.
No hate here. Love the report.
I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it.
If you have time, Seeking.com and Instagram are another options. In both cases, get the deal on Whatsup, as you will get banned otherwise on these platforms. I chatted with a few girls but did not meet up with any of them.
I stayed at NH Collection Medelland Royal, A suite was $150 a night. Its also secure as they will hold keep the copy the girls ID. They were suppose to charge me $40 for each girl but I never got charged becuase on my first day I gave the night manger a bottle of perfume I got from Dutyfree and he was my best friend for the next 10 days. I was tipping every one from the guy at the bar to bell boy to pool staff very well and got treated like a king.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.
I had a fantastic time for about 20% of what it would have cost in the US, and the girls were a lot better in looks and attitude.I used to stay at NH Collection a few years ago when I first started visiting Medellin. You could get the same room for as low as $90 a night and the joiner fee was $25 which increased to $40 this year. I've seen the rate as high as $170 when they have the flight crew from the Spanish airline they have a contract with staying there (typically Tuesdays). It really depends on who is working reception on whether you will be charged the joiner fee. I wish they had Netflix and Youtube with their tvs.
AmorPorFavor
06-11-24, 18:02
I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it.
If you have time, Seeking.com and Instagram are another options. In both cases, get the deal on Whatsup, as you will get banned otherwise on these platforms. I chatted with a few girls but did not meet up with any of them.
I stayed at NH Collection Medelland Royal, A suite was $150 a night. Its also secure as they will hold keep the copy the girls ID. They were suppose to charge me $40 for each girl but I never got charged becuase on my first day I gave the night manger a bottle of perfume I got from Dutyfree and he was my best friend for the next 10 days. I was tipping every one from the guy at the bar to bell boy to pool staff very well and got treated like a king.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.
I had a fantastic time for about 20% of what it would have cost in the US, and the girls were a lot better in looks and attitude.Will they send you pics of their faces? What about BBFS? Is that available? The hourly prices are for the most part reasonable if the faces are nice. I think I spotted one of my regulars on there. She is such a bad girl, always gives me BBFS and long dates / overnights. I think it would be worth trying out in a pinch ie a chica flakes on you.
..you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you.
New customer just needs to put a deposit to see the catalog.
This paisa like to bring a sidekick with her. The best I can describe it is that it appears to be some kind of master / slave relationship. The sidekick is always very feminine, good kisser, no restriction, also behaves like an entertainer, a lot of fun but without her own identity.
She wanted to introduce me to her friend who is trans so she can watch her friend have sex with me. She brought another girl with her unannounced. As usual, she wanted me to take her friend first. This time because of the trans, I realized that she likes to watch. I think I am being used.
JimmyStreets
06-11-24, 22:34
I know I will get few haters for this post.
I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip.
https://lacelestina.co/ is your best bet, you have to build a rap with them first by getting few girls and then they will open their private catalog for you. I was paying 1 M to 2. 5 M for 5 hours. Few were fluent english speekets. They were not watching the clock. Some stayed over night, I took them for dinners at fancy spots, spent time by the pool etc. Pure GF experience.
If you want to see the girl, chat, have a drink etc La Isla and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour. One bad part of La Isla the girls want to get done in 30 min or less. Lutron the manger is a fluent English speaker and amazing at helping you find the right girl. Most girls at these places will come and spend a day with you for 1 M. Guesto girls were asking 1 M or 300 US. Not worth it.
If you have time, Seeking.com and Instagram are another options. In both cases, get the deal on Whatsup, as you will get banned otherwise on these platforms. I chatted with a few girls but did not meet up with any of them.
I stayed at NH Collection Medelland Royal, A suite was $150 a night. Its also secure as they will hold keep the copy the girls ID. They were suppose to charge me $40 for each girl but I never got charged becuase on my first day I gave the night manger a bottle of perfume I got from Dutyfree and he was my best friend for the next 10 days. I was tipping every one from the guy at the bar to bell boy to pool staff very well and got treated like a king.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.
I had a fantastic time for about 20% of what it would have cost in the US, and the girls were a lot better in looks and attitude.Way to contribute to the problem of overpaying and justifying by comparing it to saving compared to California prices. Stay in Cali if you're going to spend stupid like this.
You are a gringo hero to the girls or as we call it a major SIMP. And you wonder why people in the states don't like California douchbags ruining anywhere they go. In the states or in MDE.
Will they send you pics of their faces? What about BBFS? Is that available? The hourly prices are for the most part reasonable if the faces are nice. I think I spotted one of my regulars on there. She is such a bad girl, always gives me BBFS and long dates / overnights. I think it would be worth trying out in a pinch ie a chica flakes on you.BBFS I will not do it thus I did not even ask for it, but got every thing else. I was offered 2 girls but at my age I can't even handle one so did not try.
Yes, you will get see their face pics. You will be communicating with them on Telegram, the paid version of Telegram has automatic lang translatiion.
Dcrist0527
06-12-24, 01:18
This paisa like to bring a sidekick with her. The best I can describe it is that it appears to be some kind of master / slave relationship. The sidekick is always very feminine, good kisser, no restriction, also behaves like an entertainer, a lot of fun but without her own identity.
She wanted to introduce me to her friend who is trans so she can watch her friend have sex with me. She brought another girl with her unannounced. As usual, she wanted me to take her friend first. This time because of the trans, I realized that she likes to watch. I think I am being used.LMAO. How much are you charging these chicas for services rendered?
I know I'm talking to a veteran. Just don't let your guard down too much.
StarletVoyager
06-12-24, 02:45
Some great feedback from guys here thankyou. I'm planning my first time trip to medellin in August. I'm familiar now with lleras park and places like la isla and loutron. I've also been in touch with the la celestina agency. My aim is to minimise the searching for the most beautiful chicas even if it means paying more. However after just 2 days of reading the forum my research is going really well.
I've come across an obstacle though. Hotel m was my choice as there are nice girls present and it comes recommended. However it seems fully booked and in addition the prices seem ridiculously high. Can anyone recommend a hotel that is 1) has nice girls in its bar. 2) is moderately priced. 3) allows outside girls with no problem at all? as a first time visitor i dont have the confidence to do private appartments or air bnb. i need an all in one package hotel like hotel m with nice girls and that satisfies the 3 points above.
Many thanks to all again
(objJay can you confirm if nh collection medelland satisfies the 3 points above?)
Some great feedback from guys here thankyou. I'm planning my first time trip to medellin in August. I'm familiar now with lleras park and places like la isla and loutron. I've also been in touch with the la celestina agency. My aim is to minimise the searching for the most beautiful chicas even if it means paying more. However after just 2 days of reading the forum my research is going really well.
I've come across an obstacle though. Hotel m was my choice as there are nice girls present and it comes recommended. However it seems fully booked and in addition the prices seem ridiculously high. Can anyone recommend a hotel that is 1) has nice girls in its bar. 2) is moderately priced. 3) allows outside girls with no problem at all? as a first time visitor i dont have the confidence to do private appartments or air bnb. i need an all in one package hotel like hotel m with nice girls and that satisfies the 3 points above.
Many thanks to all again
(objJay can you confirm if nh collection medelland satisfies the 3 points above?)Hotel m is 1 of a kind in mde in that working girls hang out at the bar looking for johns. I know of no other hotel with such a setup.
MaddTraveler
06-12-24, 03:20
Some great feedback from guys here thankyou. I'm planning my first time trip to medellin in August. I'm familiar now with lleras park and places like la isla and loutron. I've also been in touch with the la celestina agency. My aim is to minimise the searching for the most beautiful chicas even if it means paying more. However after just 2 days of reading the forum my research is going really well.
I've come across an obstacle though. Hotel m was my choice as there are nice girls present and it comes recommended. However it seems fully booked and in addition the prices seem ridiculously high. Can anyone recommend a hotel that is 1) has nice girls in its bar. 2) is moderately priced. 3) allows outside girls with no problem at all? as a first time visitor i dont have the confidence to do private appartments or air bnb. i need an all in one package hotel like hotel m with nice girls and that satisfies the 3 points above.
Many thanks to all again
(objJay can you confirm if nh collection medelland satisfies the 3 points above?)Despite the issues you read about Medellin here recently, you are in for a treat friend. Medellin is a paradise if you play right, so welcome!!
I recommend Haven A Design Hotel. It is a nice hotel in El Poblado, friends and I stayed there, girl friendly, you can walk few blocks to parque lleras to tons of bars and clubs and hundreds of chicas for your pick. If you don't want to stay in a nice area near bunch of gringos and prefer a heavy semi-risky downtown and local vibe and spend $10 per fuck instead of $100, you can stay in El Centro / downtown in Hotel Nutibara that is 75% cheaper. Girls 90% discount and hotel 75% discount downtown. But if you're here for a week or two on vaca and want a nice experience, I highly suggest to stay near El Poblado where it's nice and close to the main action. Still take a day trip to downtown and casas when you can to experience it all. All jokes aside DT is safe incl anywhere you go in the city unless you don't act right.
In Brazil now and making my way back next week w few buds so we may cross path. Hotel M is indeed noob friendly but usually recommended to book several months ahead. However, Medellin isn't known to have many hotels w girls on site. Hotel M Plaza is pretty much the only one and it's really an old house the owner inherited and allowed to have that, and you'll spend a little extra on girls anyway for that convenience. Most guys don't even go there after their first visit as you become comfy in town very quickly. You don't need a place like that also bc the entire city itself is a brothel, just ensure the place is girl friendly. But I get it, even some vets here are lazy and just want to stay in their hotels and order the pussy like a pizza LOL. Many use only fb and apps and just uber them in LOL. It's all good, but have some fun and walk to the park, it's not far and just walk back w the girls plus you'll have more variety.
Cheers.
I have also been to Medellin last April but I had to cut trip short due to issues back home. I had notes for the May trip but have been busy catching up on work. Some folks find these reports useful so I will report what happened on my most recent trip.
SFO- JetBlue- I take JetBlue from SFO (San Francisco) to FLL (Fort Lauderdale) to MDE (Medellin) Jose Maria Cordova. I took the 2:45 pm flight this time instead of 10 pm flight. That was a mistake. When I got to Fort Lauderdale it was midnight which was too late to get a hotel since the flight to MDE was at 9 am. If you have a choice between FLL and MIA choose MIA.
MDE Customs- I had already noted in an earlier post that there is heightened sensitivity with "gringo" travelers. I did the Check Mig in advance so I didn't have a problem there. I was 3rd in line so it went quickly. They really want to know where you are staying so it helps to have address and phone number of your host.
Laureles. I stay in Laureles at an Airbnb on the 5th floor. I like this place because it has an video monitor gate. You can "buzz" your guests in. There's no security but the gates are locked and key card type entry you tap and green light comes on and gate opens. This is a good place for safety and privacy. I talk about this in earlier posts.
Chicas in MDE- I talk to women no more than one week before arrival. If you initiate contact too early they may think you are all talk. If they are online (SA) it means they need money now.
On this trip I think I talked to too many I. E Seeking, Tinder and Instagram. I don't go to clubs or houses to find women. I like to spend an hour or so in Botero.
I think Botero is better than Lleras. I saw a few girls in tennis skirts with no underwear. They have high proportion of 20 something Vennies who are easy to talk to talk to. The starting price is 50 mil. I can't post pics on here they are large. Those girls are fine as fuck.
DAY 1 - Sandra de SEEKING.
I saw her about a week before mt trip. Her pics were hot. A 22 year old but has a day job and kids. Her pics made her look like a 9. 5-10. However, when I met her she looked different. These gals like to lighten their complexion with apps. She was also thicker but still a solid 8. We agreed on 400 on Seeking but then she wanted it before. I told her that I don't pay first. This went on for 5 minutes until she relented. She pissed me off but when I saw her body I wanted fuck. She said she had a hysterectomy so bare was okay. I ate her pussy and tasted her come. I fucked her in a couple of positions and came in her pussy. I then paid her to leave. She was texting throughout my visit but I told her that once was enough. I might try her again on a future visit.
DAY 2- Maria de TINDER.
This chick was somewhat different than her pics. It's her but much heavier in person. She's 21 about 5' . I let her give me head and sent her away. Not the end of the world but I will be more prepared the next time for misleading pics. 250 mil.
DAY 3- SOFIA de SEEKING- I have mentioned her in earlier reports. We were talking but were not able to meet. I had so many girls I was talking to it didn't work out. I talk to her a lot through texts. She has an inner circle I want to crack. She showed me her Barbie themed birthday party on an earlier visit. She's the hottest and DTF or hanging out.
I actually spent most of the day at El Centro and met a couple of Vennies that I mentioned earlier. I will get them on my next trip. I went back to AirBNB and for awhile and later that night went to LLeras Park. They have police covering all entry points into the park. They also had inspectors inside and outside of park removing people sleeping and minors. I saw a couple of hotties but it's not my scene. Fun to watch but I rarely poach from there.
DAY 4- MARGOT de SEEKING-.
I tried something different on this visit. I saw a older lady in her 40's with no tats. So, I had her come out since my other regular Karen_rua23 on Instagram was in Cartagena. Margot wanted 250 mil so I agreed and she came over. She was 5'6" and had natural 32 D tits. There was no baby damage at all and a nice tan. It was Saturday night so went went at it for awhile. She had a bedside manner that was sexy. She rubbing the head of cock with her fingers and it felt good. Then she gave me another round of head. I have a thing for middle age women who age well. I am going see her on my next trip.
DAY 5- No action on this day. Again I was talking to so many women I forgot who they were and what I wanted to do. The people who expected to see disappeared.
DAY 6- LAURA- I saw Laura who is my regular and mentioned her in earlier posts. I didn't expect to see her but she texted me out of the blue and asked if I was coming back to Colombia. I lied and told her I was in Bogota. Her birthday was on the Saturday past but I sent her flowers. I really like Laura but problem I have with her is that she comes over too late. We agree to meet at 8 pm and she comes over at 11 pm. I always bring viagra / cialis generics that I get from RO for $60. I think its like 10 packs with 3 pills. I take an hour before I have sex.
This visit didn't go too well quite frankly. She speaks English very well and goes to school for real. But, she got a job as a tour guide to gringos so she works like 6 days a week. On some days it's for a few hours. When I first met her off of Seeking she did not have a job. She lives with her mom but they are getting on each other nerves. Laura can't help around the house as much holding a job and attending school. She says there's a rise in violence in her neighborhood and guys are sexually harassing her because how she dresses. She likes to wear short skirts and it looks like she isn't wearing panties. I don't mind listening to all of this but it's getting late. When she undressed she had hair on pussy it was a perfect triangle but more stubble than Bush. I ate her pussy and she came fast.
I was so tired that I could only come once in her pussy. Laura likes to lay next to my bottom half and give head for 30 minutes or whatever. She's very oral. After we finished, she went to the shower and came back to the room. She asked me if she could ask a question. Mt heart sank. I hate it when women do that. She asked if I was seeing anyone else and the last time I had sex. BUSTED.
I lied and told her 6 months ago. She looked at me like " yeah right. " She wasn't the same after. She was saying that she wasn't interested in anyone else because she is focused on school and work. Where she lives Laura is GPS and has sense not to give it away to those broke ass jokers in her hood. I was inclined to believe her. It's okay I will interview some Vennies to replace her.
DAY 7- Wendy de Tinder-.
I like to bang women of all shades. I was talking to Wendy on Tinder she is black. She had sexy pics and use my AI app to translate and text women on there. She had another friend on Tinder who I was already talking to. They wanted to do doubles. I got this request more often on this trip. I only do singles, so that was out of the question. I keep all of my belongings in a separate room. I use the spare to hook up. Again, the pics of Wendy as compared to that of Tinder were off. They had been filtered. However, she looked really good. I don't care about skin color. She came over in some raggedy jeans that weren't appealing. I gave her some Victoria's Secret as I do with some of the others and when she came out the vibe was different. She looked really good but would not let me take nude pics so that was a bummer. These girls really like receiving oral sex. I tore her up. She acted like she didn't want to leave so I pretended like a roommate was coming over. I don't know if I will repeat. My other chocolate surprise I can't see anymore because she is too pushy.
DAY 8- CAMILA AKA MIRASLAV de Seeking.
This girl was the last last girl that I saw. Her pics were the most misleading that I experienced on this trip. She was much bigger than her pics depicted. Not that she was really fat. She was not petite but was like the size of volleyball player. Nearly 5' 9" or so. She was pretty good but would not let me eat her pussy. She said that she was born in Florida but has lived in Colombia most of life. She was getting on my nerves asking me all kinds of questions "what are you thinking" and "do you like me. " Please. I came her pussy felt good and paid her to leave.
It was a good trip but I made some mistakes like talking to too many people. I think I will leave my schedule open and get some girls out the El Centro. Or, I will do a repeat visit with the girls who let me take pics. There's no need to pay 600 or 700 cop to get decent action out here. The range that I saw was 50 mil to 400 mil. All were BBFS and I negotiated that before they came over, Some will not want to so I let them go.
I will also change my spot because I am overly familiar with people on the street. There's a "sex tourist" resentment vibe towards visitors like us that I am feeling. It's hard to describe but it's there.
Way to contribute to the problem of overpaying and justifying by comparing it to saving compared to California prices. Stay in Cali if you're going to spend stupid like this.
You are a gringo hero to the girls or as we call it a major SIMP. And you wonder why people in the states don't like California douchbags ruining anywhere they go. In the states or in MDE.This is what I said "I know I will get few haters for this post. " . I saved 80% and had an amazing time. If you can't affored it, stay out of the game.
Some great feedback from guys here thankyou. I'm planning my first time trip to medellin in August. I'm familiar now with lleras park and places like la isla and loutron. I've also been in touch with the la celestina agency. My aim is to minimise the searching for the most beautiful chicas even if it means paying more. However after just 2 days of reading the forum my research is going really well.
I've come across an obstacle though. Hotel m was my choice as there are nice girls present and it comes recommended. However it seems fully booked and in addition the prices seem ridiculously high. Can anyone recommend a hotel that is 1) has nice girls in its bar. 2) is moderately priced. 3) allows outside girls with no problem at all? as a first time visitor i dont have the confidence to do private appartments or air bnb. i need an all in one package hotel like hotel m with nice girls and that satisfies the 3 points above.
Many thanks to all again
(objJay can you confirm if nh collection medelland satisfies the 3 points above?)Nh collection has a bar but no girls, I was paying $150 for suite, it was like a 1 bed room apartment. No issues with out side girls, they say its $40 extra but I did not pay.
You may try reading again. He wrote that in his second paragraph
I did not see where he said that. I saw US $600 equivalent for 5 hours..
You may try reading again. He wrote that in his second paragraph.Let's not argue about whether I overpaid or not. It's like flying first and economy: Both seats are on the same plane, but one is 3 to 5 times more. Mongering is the same. If you want quality, convenience, an English-speaking girl, safety, etc, you have to pay.
Again I had an amazing time for 20% of what I would spent in my home town.
You may try reading again. He wrote that in his second paragraph
.His second paragraph: "I was in Medellin for two weeks a few months back. In LA, I spent around 1 K USD for an hour on a quality escort, so I was not trying to save money on this trip. ".
Seeing that you think he spent 1K USD for an hour in Colombia you probably think LA means Lower Antioquia, I took it to mean Los Angeles.
Let's not argue about whether I overpaid or not. It's like flying first and economy: Both seats are on the same plane, but one is 3 to 5 times more. Mongering is the same. If you want quality, convenience, an English-speaking girl, safety, etc, you have to pay.
Again I had an amazing time for 20% of what I would spent in my home town.You eating steak and lobster will not effect the prices of those that eat McDonalds.
And I never bash those that spend less but it's always those that travel on their last penny or are penny pinchers hating on the ones that spend.
You had fun and that's all that matters.
You eating steak and lobster will not effect the prices of those that eat McDonalds.
And I never bash those that spend less but it's always those that travel on their last penny or are penny pinchers hating on the ones that spend.
You had fun and that's all that matters.You earned that money. Don't let strangers tell you how to spend your money. At the end of your trip, ask yourself whether you had fun and it was within your budget. If the answer is yes to both, that is all that matters.
Benargen35
06-12-24, 17:25
I have also been to Medellin last April but I had to cut trip short due to issues back home. I had notes for the May trip but have been busy catching up on work. Some folks find these reports useful so I will report what happened on my most recent trip.
SFO- JetBlue- I take JetBlue from SFO (San Francisco) to FLL (Fort Lauderdale) to MDE (Medellin) Jose Maria Cordova. I took the 2:45 pm flight this time instead of 10 pm flight. That was a mistake. When I got to Fort Lauderdale it was midnight which was too late to get a hotel since the flight to MDE was at 9 am. If you have a choice between FLL and MIA choose MIA.
MDE Customs- I had already noted in an earlier post that there is heightened sensitivity with "gringo" travelers. I did the Check Mig in advance so I didn't have a problem there. I was 3rd in line so it went quickly. They really want to know where you are staying so it helps to have address and phone number of your host.
Laureles. I stay in Laureles at an Airbnb on the 5th floor. I like this place because it has an video monitor gate. You can "buzz" your guests in. There's no security but the gates are locked and key card type entry you tap and green light comes on and gate opens. This is a good place for safety and privacy. I talk about this in earlier posts.
Chicas in MDE- I talk to women no more than one week before arrival. If you initiate contact too early they may think you are all talk. If they are online (SA) it means they need money now.
On this trip I think I talked to too many I. E Seeking, Tinder and Instagram. I don't go to clubs or houses to find women. I like to spend an hour or so in Botero.
I think Botero is better than Lleras. I saw a few girls in tennis skirts with no underwear. They have high proportion of 20 something Vennies who are easy to talk to talk to. The starting price is 50 mil. I can't post pics on here they are large. Those girls are fine as fuck.
DAY 1 - Sandra de SEEKING.
I saw her about a week before mt trip. Her pics were hot. A 22 year old but has a day job and kids. Her pics made her look like a 9. 5-10. However, when I met her she looked different. These gals like to lighten their complexion with apps. She was also thicker but still a solid 8. We agreed on 400 on Seeking but then she wanted it before. I told her that I don't pay first. This went on for 5 minutes until she relented. She pissed me off but when I saw her body I wanted fuck. She said she had a hysterectomy so bare was okay. I ate her pussy and tasted her come. I fucked her in a couple of positions and came in her pussy. I then paid her to leave. She was texting throughout my visit but I told her that once was enough. I might try her again on a future visit.
DAY 2- Maria de TINDER.
This chick was somewhat different than her pics. It's her but much heavier in person. She's 21 about 5' . I let her give me head and sent her away. Not the end of the world but I will be more prepared the next time for misleading pics. 250 mil.
DAY 3- SOFIA de SEEKING- I have mentioned her in earlier reports. We were talking but were not able to meet. I had so many girls I was talking to it didn't work out. I talk to her a lot through texts. She has an inner circle I want to crack. She showed me her Barbie themed birthday party on an earlier visit. She's the hottest and DTF or hanging out.
I actually spent most of the day at El Centro and met a couple of Vennies that I mentioned earlier. I will get them on my next trip. I went back to AirBNB and for awhile and later that night went to LLeras Park. They have police covering all entry points into the park. They also had inspectors inside and outside of park removing people sleeping and minors. I saw a couple of hotties but it's not my scene. Fun to watch but I rarely poach from there.
DAY 4- MARGOT de SEEKING-.
I tried something different on this visit. I saw a older lady in her 40's with no tats. So, I had her come out since my other regular Karen_rua23 on Instagram was in Cartagena. Margot wanted 250 mil so I agreed and she came over. She was 5'6" and had natural 32 D tits. There was no baby damage at all and a nice tan. It was Saturday night so went went at it for awhile. She had a bedside manner that was sexy. She rubbing the head of cock with her fingers and it felt good. Then she gave me another round of head. I have a thing for middle age women who age well. I am going see her on my next trip.
DAY 5- No action on this day. Again I was talking to so many women I forgot who they were and what I wanted to do. The people who expected to see disappeared.
DAY 6- LAURA- I saw Laura who is my regular and mentioned her in earlier posts. I didn't expect to see her but she texted me out of the blue and asked if I was coming back to Colombia. I lied and told her I was in Bogota. Her birthday was on the Saturday past but I sent her flowers. I really like Laura but problem I have with her is that she comes over too late. We agree to meet at 8 pm and she comes over at 11 pm. I always bring viagra / cialis generics that I get from RO for $60. I think its like 10 packs with 3 pills. I take an hour before I have sex.
This visit didn't go too well quite frankly. She speaks English very well and goes to school for real. But, she got a job as a tour guide to gringos so she works like 6 days a week. On some days it's for a few hours. When I first met her off of Seeking she did not have a job. She lives with her mom but they are getting on each other nerves. Laura can't help around the house as much holding a job and attending school. She says there's a rise in violence in her neighborhood and guys are sexually harassing her because how she dresses. She likes to wear short skirts and it looks like she isn't wearing panties. I don't mind listening to all of this but it's getting late. When she undressed she had hair on pussy it was a perfect triangle but more stubble than Bush. I ate her pussy and she came fast.
I was so tired that I could only come once in her pussy. Laura likes to lay next to my bottom half and give head for 30 minutes or whatever. She's very oral. After we finished, she went to the shower and came back to the room. She asked me if she could ask a question. Mt heart sank. I hate it when women do that. She asked if I was seeing anyone else and the last time I had sex. BUSTED.
I lied and told her 6 months ago. She looked at me like " yeah right. " She wasn't the same after. She was saying that she wasn't interested in anyone else because she is focused on school and work. Where she lives Laura is GPS and has sense not to give it away to those broke ass jokers in her hood. I was inclined to believe her. It's okay I will interview some Vennies to replace her.
DAY 7- Wendy de Tinder-.
I like to bang women of all shades. I was talking to Wendy on Tinder she is black. She had sexy pics and use my AI app to translate and text women on there. She had another friend on Tinder who I was already talking to. They wanted to do doubles. I got this request more often on this trip. I only do singles, so that was out of the question. I keep all of my belongings in a separate room. I use the spare to hook up. Again, the pics of Wendy as compared to that of Tinder were off. They had been filtered. However, she looked really good. I don't care about skin color. She came over in some raggedy jeans that weren't appealing. I gave her some Victoria's Secret as I do with some of the others and when she came out the vibe was different. She looked really good but would not let me take nude pics so that was a bummer. These girls really like receiving oral sex. I tore her up. She acted like she didn't want to leave so I pretended like a roommate was coming over. I don't know if I will repeat. My other chocolate surprise I can't see anymore because she is too pushy.
DAY 8- CAMILA AKA MIRASLAV de Seeking.
This girl was the last last girl that I saw. Her pics were the most misleading that I experienced on this trip. She was much bigger than her pics depicted. Not that she was really fat. She was not petite but was like the size of volleyball player. Nearly 5' 9" or so. She was pretty good but would not let me eat her pussy. She said that she was born in Florida but has lived in Colombia most of life. She was getting on my nerves asking me all kinds of questions "what are you thinking" and "do you like me. " Please. I came her pussy felt good and paid her to leave.
It was a good trip but I made some mistakes like talking to too many people. I think I will leave my schedule open and get some girls out the El Centro. Or, I will do a repeat visit with the girls who let me take pics. There's no need to pay 600 or 700 cop to get decent action out here. The range that I saw was 50 mil to 400 mil. All were BBFS and I negotiated that before they came over, Some will not want to so I let them go.
I will also change my spot because I am overly familiar with people on the street. There's a "sex tourist" resentment vibe towards visitors like us that I am feeling. It's hard to describe but it's there.Damn sounds like you had a pretty good trip. I've been a catador in Colombia for a while but mostly Medellin. Haven't done much on seeking or tinder. Any chance you would share info for Sandra, Margot, and Laura. I have two I can share back.
MaddTraveler
06-12-24, 18:24
Let's not argue about whether I overpaid or not. It's like flying first and economy: Both seats are on the same plane, but one is 3 to 5 times more. Mongering is the same. If you want quality, convenience, an English-speaking girl, safety, etc, you have to pay.
Again I had an amazing time for 20% of what I would spent in my home town.
I think Botero is better than Lleras. I saw a few girls in tennis skirts with no underwear. They have high proportion of 20 something Vennies who are easy to talk to talk to. The starting price is 50 mil. I can't post pics on here they are large. Those girls are fine as fuck.
DAY 1 - Sandra de SEEKING.
DAY 2- Maria de TINDER.
DAY 3- SOFIA de SEEKING
I actually spent most of the day at El Centro and met a couple of Vennies that I mentioned earlier.
DAY 4- MARGOT de SEEKING-.
DAY 8- CAMILA AKA MIRASLAV de Seeking.
I swear if this forum wasnt already popular with thousands of users I'd think admin themselves are hiring people from upwork and other sites to write fake reports as a way to gain users. But it is not the case. T.
The most recent one posted yesterday also is 100% fake. One second dude's bragging about girls in centro for 50 k and "fine as fuck" and another min talking about spending big on seeking. Unless you can magically be in two places at a time that report is strange. Spending all day in centro as he said yet has time for so many Seeking dates lmao.
Also sharing user names and names easily. Who does that? First it'd be disrespectful to those girls to share their info like that from a private site, and wow it's also almost as if Seeking is advertising themselves and wrote the report. Or the girl / s themselves wrote it to gain customers from here lmao. Clearly translated and unnatural.
BUSTED #1!!
Then, only one explanation for the guy spending 1 K USD. True you may as well stay home and in fact that too is a lie. You can get laid with some Pornstars in LA for less than that. US has some baddies you can fuck for $300 range easily. Fake monger isn't spending 1 k back home, or wouldn't have the need to come here.
Mofos are so quick to say to others to stay out of game, while they are clearly new here trying to flex. It's a weird thing, as if we're going to meet with them and suck their dicks for fake reports and brags LMAO. This is anonymous first of all, and there are many Millionaires on here incl some Doctors, all types of real men. I do some silly stuff at times when partying and celebrating an occasion here and there but I don't waste money cause that's all it is. Plus it's a selfish prick attitude to being new to a community and clearly contributing to something that ruins the game for others. Mongering have always had silent rules. I always say this here, no one will come after you, there are no mongering cops, but it's call being a gentleman to sort of stay within certain lines.
Funny thing it's not just us foreigners w this type of code of ethics or this website. Colombian themselves have many forum sites similar to this one where they discuss the girls, write reports, discuss pricings and argue just like we do. Not going to share links but I read their sites for intel myself. It's a gent and pussy thing. Before the internet hundreds of years ago this always existed when men meet in bars with the hos to drink and have camaraderie.
So chill with the fake baller attitude and fake ass report. No one's impressed.
Would love to say Madd is back but never went anywhere.
... It's like flying first and economy: Both seats are on the same plane, but one is 3 to 5 times more. ...This is a flawed argument. You paid for first class but there is nothing to indicate that you are getting the first class treatment or you get getting better treatment than the people who are paying less. It depends on various factors. For example, repeat likely will give you a different experience, knowing the language, culture, or the girls.
I have several bottles of imported liquors and wines. Based on your reasoning, the girl will perform better if they drink these because they cost more. The reality is they want to cheap liquors produced locally. I let them order whatever they want, often they would order food like arepa.
It is great that you optimized the resource you had to get what you think is the best experience.
This is where you can start adding friends on Facebook, slowly at first. Please read the post and the quoted posts.
Find her on Facebook
.. Just don't let your guard down too much.Thanks for the reminder. I know there is danger to let them in. I don't have anything that I can't lost in my apartment. I see her fairly often, with or without other sidekicks. I also know about the girl she brought. She listens to my request, and she would ask in advance next time and she did. She came a long way. When we first met, she put condom on the vibrator, and now she does not even mention condom. The interesting thing about sidekick is that it does not feel like she is working and it's just different
She would write down the lyrics of some interesting songs, about sex and relationship, she was playing for me to understand so that is a nice gesture. She would buy stuff and bring it to me as gifts, like cookie and stuff. But unfortunately, I think she is good at manipulating people using words or lies, and I am the target from time to time.
KebabOperator
06-12-24, 20:42
I have been boots on the ground for some time now and, Here is my current info upload, maybe it will help someone.
There are different kinds of hobbyists; thus, the things I write are mainly my style, which means I rarely order inn online or from an agency. The main reason for me is: I want to vibe with girls and see them IRL, not just in pictures. I have done miletorticos and pretty much all agencies that have been mentioned here and while they are not bad I think you can do better for the price.
Plus, if you are looking for stunners and 10's and don't mind a little work, why even bother with an agency? Go to any high-end mall, Poblado, Fancy restaurants, and chat up girls IRL like you normally do. I have pulled some girls that Playboy magazine would kill for, and all for the low, low price of free.
Colombian women are awesome; they are not femenazi western girls we are all used to, so gents, if you don't smell like ass and don't look like an ass, this literally feels like a fat kid in a candy store with an unlimited credit card type shid. Granted, I want way overboard in the beginning, literally, binge-licking everything nice and sparkly, but after a while, you get so spoiled you only go for the top-shelf stuff. So don't make the same mistake I did. Pace yourself.
1) First, I do not know if I just have good luck or what, but for daytime, New Life is the place to be. If you tip personnel working there and are nice, you will literally be treated so well. It requires no logistics, setups, texts, etc. You just roll up and go full energizer bunny on 'them. The price / safety ratio can not be beaten. Now, not everyone here is a 10, but you are not marrying them, and there are enough girls to find one that tickles your fancy.
I have tried Energy Casa many times, and in my opinion, it is just meh. Not even on the same level as New Life. Once in a while, you may find a nice student girl there, but I am not a big fan of management.
2) Once you improve your Spanish and become comfortable, Botero is the best place to be. You can find some real diamonds in the rough on the street next to the church. This place, for me, is strictly daytime as well. I hate hotels here because most of them are not good, but they get the job done. There are some great Vennies here, and even locals, but the best thing about this place is the price. It starts around 50 but that just gets you very basic stuff. Now with 100 or 150 you can get very nice long sessions. The best thing to do is rent AIRBNB or an apartment that you strictly use for girls (don't live there; there are nice ones for about 3 0 USD / day in the area and pull the girls you vibe with there.
3) As for Strip clubs in the Botero area, Conejitas is my favorite. The price is reasonable, you can pull girls you like directly upstairs to an okay motel, and stuff / girls are not pushy or annoying. 2 k tip per dance for girls and drink for hours with your friends. Bonus tip: make friends with DJ and you may even get to control the music LOL. It is even more fun when I go with my own girls.
Barra Executiva was recommended by a friend, who said there was a better lineup, but honestly, I don't think so. Prices are a bit higher, and girls are more robotic / plastic. So far, I have been there a handful of times and never really enjoyed it as much as Conejitas. However, both places are great to get girls' numbers for after-hours play.
4) Highend.
For nighttime, Parke is still the place to be. Many 19-22 Yo Putas who are not hardened pros just doing it to buy whatever their lizard mind requires. Fair warning: be careful with girls who want to get well before the session. If they od in your place you will have problems.
If you want normal girls, Provenza has delivered many great results for me. Sit around at all the outside spots, drink and enjoy people-watching or go to nice places with a more intimate vibe. I like Gato Resto for example. It's a great place to pull girls for the second location. Remember, rapport still matters females are females all over the world, so build it early and strong. One thing I noticed is gringas get mad when you don't talk to them, so then they try to compete with local girls LOL anyway, I pulled two very nice gringas from there. YMMV, but still worth a shot.
Clubs.
I used to hate on La Isla because of plastic and prices, but the last three times, I have had a blast there. Either the lineup is getting better, or I am just getting lucky. The other night, I got TLN for 600, and she stayed the next day, too.
I went to the Lujuria Club, and it was definitely not my scene. I did go with two girls, and if I did not bring my own girls, I would be walking out with blue balls. I don't think this is it, unless you enjoy other people watching you while you bring your own girl. Girls that they had there, I would not even say Hello, to them on the streets, but everyone's standards are different so YMMV.
As for my crazy love triangle drama thing from earlier if anyone remembers I basically tried to end it with all 3 of them. I had to repeat myself over and over many times but after some tears, crying, etc 2 out of 3 got the message and left me alone. Third was a student girl that I liked the most. I literally told her to her face that I am never marrying her or anyone for that matter, I don't want kids, responsibility etc I told her that this will never go to anything more than what it already is. She looked at me like I murdered her puppy in front of her. I thought I was finally free but she goes "but you do like me I see with my own eyes and I don't want anything from you but please just be with me" Long story short: somehow I ended up in an open relationship with her (closed on her end) while I made it very clear that I was going to sleep with other girls, party, etc and that we would never be together long term she happily agreed.
So far, this agreement has been working very well for me. I did have to pay for her to get an IUD installed and STD tests as I am definitely not wearing a condom with GF, but I'd say money well spent. I get to come home to a beautiful young girl who cooks, cleans, and is pleasant to be around, and I get to fill her up daily like a jelly donut. I also made it a requirement that she must get tested monthly and can't touch anyone else. She happily agreed and seems happier and happier every day. It was hard for me to trust her as I had seen the loyalty of married Colombian women already, but so far this girl is sticking to the script.
Interestingly this also turned into SUB / DOM relationship as I was talking to her one night in bed about how I enjoyed the scene and had done it before etc and she jumped up and goes "so where is my choker and name tag then?" I tell you all, that did something to me to the point where I was thunder-thrusting her that whole night like there was no tomorrow. I thought I broke her in half LOL. So basically, the deal is that she stays with me full-time now at my place, as it is closer to her school and work, plus her family home is kind out of the city proper. She does all house chores / shopping / accompanies me to places. I do pay for her nails / hair but that's because I like my girls taken care of a certain way. Anyway, for about 150 USD expense a week (this includes nails, going out together, groceries, etc.) I got 11 out of 10 girl who also doubles as a sub and is just getting into L play / other girls. I prefer playing in a trio so it is nice when she does these chicks with me. I am glad I did not cut it off and ghost her as that was my Plan be if the talk did not work.
In other news, if some ex-pats stopped doing stupid shit, we would have less hate towards foreigners. Like the young bros screaming at the top of their lungs in English by the park entrance the last Friday night. "ay yo, ay yo" "yo, I don't give a fuck" "turn up" "smack her ass" etc, trust me, you all will give a fuck when you end up in Colombian prison. There is a reason those girls are standing outside and can't enter the park. Fucking dumb asses. You all must stay in the USA, preferably in your parents' basements. If you are not socialized properly and can't be around people, please stay home and stop ruining this great place for everyone.
Also, not judging but to that old guy with a walking cane and 18 yo (I Hope) puta in tow. My friend get her number and tell her to come up to you in 10 minutes via text. You looked so out of place with her; every single cop was looking at you, and not in a good way. Did you even check her ID? SMH, some people are just asking for trouble.
Stay safe out there Gents.
Operator Out.
GringoAdvent
06-12-24, 21:59
As I understand it (and from a previous post I saw on here), the ban in Poblado and Provenza opens up the ability for police to show up to your door anytime they have a reasonable suspicion of mongering activity. This could stem from neighbors calling in, police monitoring, or even kick back rackets (not uncommon there). Maybe this is paranoia, but have any of you opted to just stay in Laurels to avoid the crackdown climate in Poblado / Provenza? Or, is there nothing to worry about if you're not in lleras making a scene?
QualitySmut
06-12-24, 22:28
I'm currently in Medellin. I primarily use Facebook and MILERÓTICOS. I want to try picking up street girls in centro. Mostly because I have a super specific request that I believe comes off better in person. I want to pay a girl to twerk and grind on me but hopefully cheaper than sex. But in centro the prices are lower so I could rationalize paying sex price there for the service I want.
I just want some info on how to go about mongering I'm el centro. Times and places would be greatly appreciated. I want to go during the day to minimize danger. Thanks in advance. I will come back and share the lay of the land for all interested parties.
I have been boots on the ground for some time now and, Here is my current info upload, maybe it will help someone.
There are different kinds of hobbyists; thus, the things I write are mainly my style, which means I rarely order inn online or from an agency. The main reason for me is: I want to vibe with girls and see them IRL, not just in pictures. I have done miletorticos and pretty much all agencies that have been mentioned here and while they are not bad I think you can do better for the price.
Plus, if you are looking for stunners and 10's and don't mind a little work, why even bother with an agency? Go to any high-end mall, Poblado, Fancy restaurants, and chat up girls IRL like you normally do. I have pulled some girls that Playboy magazine would kill for, and all for the low, low price of free.
I know this guy for years, and do consider him a friend but believe 25 percent of what he says, as he has a habit of really exaggerating things. Just being honest with you all!
JohnnieCash
06-13-24, 04:44
The best thing to do is rent AIRBNB or an apartment that you strictly use for girls (don't live there; there are nice ones for about 3 0 USD / day in the area and pull the girls you vibe with there.
Or use 15-30 mil long-time love hotels.
Bonus tip: make friends with DJ and you may even get to control the music LOL. It is even more fun when I go with my own girls.
I wonder if he'd turn down the volume for me, it must be the the loudest cento club, horrible. Decent rooms though.
Barra Executiva was recommended by a friend, who said there was a better lineup, but honestly, I don't think so. Prices are a bit higher, and girls are more robotic / plastic. So far, I have been there a handful of times and never really enjoyed it as much as Conejitas. However, both places are great to get girls' numbers for after-hours play.
IMO Barra has better looking girls but it's a late night club so I don't visit that much. As for their attitudes, probably a bit better in cheaper clubs, but I did have some great times in Barra as well.
JohnnieCash
06-13-24, 04:49
I'm currently in Medellin. I primarily use Facebook and MILERTICOS. I want to try picking up street girls in centro. Mostly because I have a super specific request that I believe comes off better in person. I want to pay a girl to twerk and grind on me but hopefully cheaper than sex. But in centro the prices are lower so I could rationalize paying sex price there for the service I want.
I just want some info on how to go about mongering I'm el centro. Times and places would be greatly appreciated. I want to go during the day to minimize danger. Thanks in advance. I will come back and share the lay of the land for all interested parties.Hit the centro strip clubs, most of the girls will happily twerk an grind and have the necessary skills to do it.
I am planning a weekend getaway to San Andres with a favorita from Medellin. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel with beach view, walking distance to nightlife, $200 a night or under hopefully? Side note, does the island have ATV's or some type of thing like that for rent that you can take around the island? I posted this in the San Andres thread as well but taking a shot that some of you veterans can help.
Feel free to private message me, I can help with those looking to start off the facebook game, contacts, airbnbs, restaurants, drivers, etc.
I am planning a weekend getaway to San Andres with a favorita from Medellin. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel with beach view, walking distance to nightlife, $200 a night or under hopefully? Side note, does the island have ATV's or some type of thing like that for rent that you can take around the island? I posted this in the San Andres thread as well but taking a shot that some of you veterans can help.
Feel free to private message me, I can help with those looking to start off the facebook game, contacts, airbnbs, restaurants, drivers, etc.Yes you can rent the side by sides there. They call them mulitas. If you get one of Their phone numbers, you can coordinate so the mulita is waiting for you at the airport and then they meet you at the airport for your departure.
Mr Enternational
06-13-24, 06:13
I am planning a weekend getaway to San Andres with a favorita from Medellin. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel with beach view, walking distance to nightlife, $200 a night or under hopefully? Side note, does the island have ATV's or some type of thing like that for rent that you can take around the island? All the nightlife is in one place, so it should be easy to choose a hotel in that area. Look up Caribbean Disco Club. It is on Calle 1. And do not expect too much, because there are only 2 bars / clubs for nightlife (3 tops). Really no reason to stay in that area if you have transportation. But that is the most popular, hence most expensive area. Where I always stay I pay about $60/ night. Renting a scooter there is really no need to stay there. You can also rent big golf carts, but they are less versatile, less agile, less fun, slower and more expensive than a scooter. I am sure you will get tired of going over all the speed bumps on one of those carts. It only takes 45 minutes to drive around the whole island on a scooter. I am not giving my place up, but I recommend staying on the east side near Aqua Beach Club (great place to chill during the day) versus the busy, popular north side where the nightlife is if you have transportation. San Andres is cheaper and a better beach destination than Cartagena.
I did not do any of the "Passport Bro" stupid shit like throwing money at the dancers, buying bottle service, being loud, showing up with a Rolex, and a gold chains.No, but you did your own version. Gringo Tourist stupid shit like throwing money at hotel staff and girls, buying perfume bottle service, showing your upmarket hotel off. Practically the same, hehe, but maybe you won't see it that way because 1 version is you and the other version is a group that you look down on.
It's like flying first and economy: Both seats are on the same plane, but one is 3 to 5 times more. Mongering is the same. If you want quality, convenience, an English-speaking girl, safety, etc, you have to pay.
I am happy you had a great time. But its not like flying 1st class or economy at all. The analogy would be you buying a raffle ticket. One ticket is first class and the other is economy. You pay for first class but you have to take you pick one ticket and you might end up with 1st class or economy.
Was my rookie trip, first time mongering:
My spanish is decent.
Did some pre-planning dates with Facebook and Tinder before arriving.
Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS. More if using credit card. First time I went was just 1 session. Returned and had 3 sessions the 2nd time. I noticed the girls seemed to ignore me after I'the been there for a couple hours and large groups of guys were arriving, I had to ask the staff multiple times to see the presentation.
FB girls: Most of them not as pretty as photos, 200 k for the hour. Wasn't worth the time I put in setting up. Used Kuboz Suite motel in Laureles, cheap and safe area. Had one spinner from Tinder that I did repeat session, 300 k per hour.
Centro: Befriended a local taxi and hired him for 50 k per hour to drive / tour me through Centro. Bought a few joints by the church to enjoy while we did the loop around Veracruz. Average quality, a few hotties. 50 k for the ratito, 10 k the motel. At night we went to a nearby strip club, can't remember the name. Went the a VIP area with 2 girls and the taxista. Decided to try perrico and tusi, bad idea. Couldn't get it up and was tweaking out a bit. So we left and he showed me Black Diamond club in Lleras. Nice selection but I wasn't feeling good so we called it a night.
Returned another day, mostly average girls again.
Energy Spa: Average selection, a couple cuties. Did 2 sessions, 200 k for hour.
La Isla: First night I went with a group, about 350 k for the bottle to sit at a table. Slow night, the girls in dresses didn't seem they wanted to be there or to interact. Enjoyed the show and eventually called a girl over to chat. She quoted me 600 k for the hour in the adjacent motel. Agreed and left after that session.
I returned alone and ended up screwing up big time. Bought the bottle around 350 k to sit close to the stage, and proceeded to drink quickly as I was too sober, was a busy Friday night. Eventually call a dancer over and she again quotes me 600 k for her and the room for 1 hour, I pay and we go. Afterwards I'm on cloud 9 and go back to my table, finish my bottle and have the genius idea to order 6 beers. Somewhere along the way I blacked out, rest of the night is bits and pieces, don't want to remember LOL. 300 k disappeared from my wallet. I think security carried me out and laid me down to sleep on the wall outside. They told me to leave around 7 am and somehow I stumbled through the highway still blacked out and got a ride to Poblado. Felt like dogshit and couldn't do anything my last day there.
Lleras Park: Picked up a girl in the park, she insisted I bring her friend also. I say I don't like the friend, but she says the friend will just sit in the bathroom. Dumbass move but I agreed, so we leave to Kuboz Suite. Tried the tusi again, didn't like it again. End up fucking the friend too because I'm high and drunk. The friend starts talking whispers to her, can tell they're talking about drugging me but the other girl doesn't want to. Alarm bells going off so I decide to end soon after.
Ibiza Motel Lounge: Also went to this motel, very nice but a bit overpriced.
Overall things went okay, could've negotiated better and not done dumbass shit, but hey I'm a rookie with ADHD haha.
Was my rookie trip, first time mongering:
Did some pre-planning dates with Facebook and Tinder before arriving.
Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS. More if using credit card. First time I went was just 1 session. Returned and had 3 sessions the 2nd time. I noticed the girls seemed to ignore me after I'the been there for a couple hours and large groups of guys were arriving, I had to ask the staff multiple times to see the presentation.
FB girls: Most of them not as pretty as photos, 200 k for the hour. Wasn't worth the time I put in setting up. Used Kuboz Suite motel in Laureles, cheap and safe area. Had one spinner from Tinder that I did repeat session, 300 k per hour.
Centro: Befriended a local taxi and hired him for 50 k per hour to drive / tour me through Centro. Bought a few joints by the church to enjoy while we did the loop around Veracruz. Average quality, a few hotties. 50 k for the ratito, 10 k the motel. At night we went to a nearby strip club, can't remember the name. Went the a VIP area with 2 girls and the taxista. Decided to try perrico and tusi, bad idea. Couldn't get it up and was tweaking out a bit. So we left and he showed me Black Diamond club in Lleras. Nice selection but I wasn't feeling good so we called it a night.
Returned another day, mostly average girls again.
Energy Spa: Average selection, a couple cuties. Did 2 sessions, 200 k for hour.
La Isla: First night I went with a group, about 350 k for the bottle to sit at a table. Slow night, the girls in dresses didn't seem they wanted to be there or to interact. Enjoyed the show and eventually called a girl over to chat. She quoted me 600 k for the hour in the adjacent motel. Agreed and left after that session.
I returned alone and ended up screwing up big time. Bought the bottle around 350 k to sit close to the stage, and proceeded to drink quickly as I was too sober, was a busy Friday night. Eventually call a dancer over and she again quotes me 600 k for her and the room for 1 hour, I pay and we go. Afterwards I'm on cloud 9 and go back to my table, finish my bottle and have the genius idea to order 6 beers. Somewhere along the way I blacked out, rest of the night is bits and pieces, don't want to remember LOL. 300 k disappeared from my wallet. I think security carried me out and laid me down to sleep on the wall outside. They told me to leave around 7 am and somehow I stumbled through the highway still blacked out and got a ride to Poblado. Felt like dogshit and couldn't do anything my last day there.
Lleras Park: Picked up a girl in the park, she insisted I bring her friend also. I say I don't like the friend, but she says the friend will just sit in the bathroom. Dumbass move but I agreed, so we leave to Kuboz Suite. Tried the tusi again, didn't like it again. End up fucking the friend too because I'm high and drunk. The friend starts talking whispers to her, can tell they're talking about drugging me but the other girl doesn't want to. Alarm bells going off so I decide to end soon after.
Ibiza Motel Lounge: Also went to this motel, very nice but a bit overpriced.
Overall things went okay, could've negotiated better and not done dumbass shit, but hey I'm a rookie.
Mr Enternational
06-13-24, 07:40
I am happy you had a great time. But its not like flying 1st class or economy at all. The analogy would be you buying a raffle ticket. One ticket is first class and the other is economy. You pay for first class but you have to take you pick one ticket and you might end up with 1st class or economy.Like the brother that said he agreed to pay the girl of his dreams 1 million pesos and it was one of the worst sessions in his life. How much you agree to pay guarantees nothing. How can someone even think it does?
Hey all. Haven't posted for a while. I'm back in Medellin and was thinking about what I like about it so much vs other places. The most interesting thing and what I love about Medellin and the women is how grey line can be between pros and nonpros. Here's a list of prototypical Medellin dates from my experience. I've been with all of the types below except the first.
You message her she quotes a high price "por hora" in dollars (I avoid those ones like the plague).
You agree on a price she's in and out pretty fast everything is by the book any extras are negotiated. Condom is definitely involved unless otherwise negotiated.
You agree on a price she comes over, you hang for a while, probably two or three hours. She seems to be having fun. Sex is a bit more free flowing and spontaneous and she wants you to do specific things for her and wants to meet your likes. Condom may or may not be involved. There is a chance she'll start showing up for a regalito or no money even if she really had fun and you keep seeing her (happened to me a couple times).
You don't talk price at all. She shows up after you offer taxis and you go out on a fun date. You come back to your place have sex that is completely open and follows your shared tastes. Condom may or may not be involved. She asks if you'll give her a regalito afterwards and when you ask how much. She says "lo que tu quieres" or "lo que naces de su corazon". The safe bet is to give her 200 k.
You go out with a girl who seems enthusiastic to meet you. She shows up having paid her own taxi and you go on your date. She comes back with you and you have free flowing sex. Condom may or may not be involved. When she leaves she asks if you can help her with her bus passage for the next day (literally happened to me last night) or something small and specific like that. She also asks if you can bring her something from the US next time you come.
You go out with a girl who pays her taxi. She's super affectionate and on you the whole date. You have a good date and free flowing sex. 9 times out of 10 she fights you if you reach for a condom. Your room is clean without you even asking and she's asking what she can make you breakfast the next morning. She doesn't ask for any small favors or any money when she leaves. Of course being Colombian she's more than happy if you give her some money or gifts and probably expects it over the long term on some level if you keep seeing her.
........that old guy with a walking cane and 18 yo (I Hope) puta in tow. My friend get her number and tell her to come up to you in 10 minutes via text. You looked so out of place with her; every single cop was looking at you, and not in a good way. Did you even check her ID? SMH, some people are just asking for trouble..........Don't hate on the old dude with the young girl. There are old guys with young hot stunners all over the world. If you go to Thailand you'll catch a fit.
I want to pay a girl to twerk and grind on me but hopefully cheaper than sex. But in centro the prices are lower so I could rationalize paying sex price there for the service I want.Did you ask the Facebook girls? If you still want sex, I think the majority of them will do it for free as a prelude of sex or during sex.
Benargen35
06-13-24, 16:31
I swear if this forum wasnt already popular with thousands of users I'd think admin themselves are hiring people from upwork and other sites to write fake reports as a way to gain users. But it is not the case. T.
The most recent one posted yesterday also is 100% fake. One second dude's bragging about girls in centro for 50 k and "fine as fuck" and another min talking about spending big on seeking. Unless you can magically be in two places at a time that report is strange. Spending all day in centro as he said yet has time for so many Seeking dates lmao.
Also sharing user names and names easily. Who does that? First it'd be disrespectful to those girls to share their info like that from a private site, and wow it's also almost as if Seeking is advertising themselves and wrote the report. Or the girl / s themselves wrote it to gain customers from here lmao. Clearly translated and unnatural.I'm not sure if this report was fake or not but there are a few Spanish forums (one is very well know in Medellin and shows up in reviews if you on mileroticos) where sharing like that is pretty normal. It didn't really set my alarm off as being fake.
Mr Enternational
06-13-24, 16:45
The most interesting thing and what I love about Medellin and the women is how grey line can be between pros and nonpros.The line is not as grey as you make it out to be. Do not give them money. If they do not return, you will see how black the line really is. She was there for money. If they do return you will see how black the line really is as well. She was not there for money. Do not mistake type of service for a shading of lines. A guy that is not a monger is not going out with a woman and wondering if he should be giving her money at the end of the night. He is just going out with a woman and whatever happens, happens.
Did you ask the Facebook girls? If you still want sex, I think the majority of them will do it for free as a prelude of sex or during sex.Do you guys create a 2nd profile on FB just for the Medellin trip?
QualitySmut
06-13-24, 19:17
Did you ask the Facebook girls? If you still want sex, I think the majority of them will do it for free as a prelude of sex or during sex.The girls I usually get seem to get shy. They don't mind twerking on their stories but they are ahsmaed in person.
My friend, this is the most accurate assessment I have read on this site in ages. I feel seen! .
Hey all. Haven't posted for a while. I'm back in Medellin and was thinking about what I like about it so much vs other places. The most interesting thing and what I love about Medellin and the women is how grey line can be between pros and nonpros. Here's a list of prototypical Medellin dates from my experience. I've been with all of the types below except the first.
You message her she quotes a high price "por hora" in dollars (I avoid those ones like the plague).
You agree on a price she's in and out pretty fast everything is by the book any extras are negotiated. Condom is definitely involved unless otherwise negotiated.
You agree on a price she comes over, you hang for a while, probably two or three hours. She seems to be having fun. Sex is a bit more free flowing and spontaneous and she wants you to do specific things for her and wants to meet your likes. Condom may or may not be involved. There is a chance she'll start showing up for a regalito or no money even if she really had fun and you keep seeing her (happened to me a couple times).
You don't talk price at all. She shows up after you offer taxis and you go out on a fun date. You come back to your place have sex that is completely open and follows your shared tastes. Condom may or may not be involved. She asks if you'll give her a regalito afterwards and when you ask how much. She says "lo que tu quieres" or "lo que naces de su corazon". The safe bet is to give her 200 k.
You go out with a girl who seems enthusiastic to meet you. She shows up having paid her own taxi and you go on your date. She comes back with you and you have free flowing sex. Condom may or may not be involved. When she leaves she asks if you can help her with her bus passage for the next day (literally happened to me last night) or something small and specific like that. She also asks if you can bring her something from the US next time you come.
You go out with a girl who pays her taxi. She's super affectionate and on you the whole date. You have a good date and free flowing sex. 9 times out of 10 she fights you if you reach for a condom. Your room is clean without you even asking and she's asking what she can make you breakfast the next morning. She doesn't ask for any small favors or any money when she leaves. Of course being Colombian she's more than happy if you give her some money or gifts and probably expects it over the long term on some level if you keep seeing her.
I am happy you had a great time. But its not like flying 1st class or economy at all. The analogy would be you buying a raffle ticket. One ticket is first class and the other is economy. You pay for first class but you have to take you pick one ticket and you might end up with 1st class or economy.Incorrect. When you fly first class, you are guaranteed things like priority boarding, more legroom or seats that turn into a bed, better food (sometimes, a la carte), real utensils not the plastic ones, better media / entertainment, etc. These are things you pay extra money for. Yeah, the food might not be up to your liking, or the aircraft might be older, or the ride might be bumpy due to turbulence, but in general, first class comfort is on a different level than economy. Once you start flying first class, for most people there is no turn back to economy if money is not issue, unless there is no first class option on the route you select.
With girls, it is always YMMV, but in general, the more expensive they are, the more perks mentioned before you get. I haven't had a shitty experience with an expensive girl. Maybe 2-3 mediocre experiences. But the rest were great and worth the money.
Incorrect. When you fly first class, you are guaranteed things like priority boarding, more legroom or seats that turn into a bed, better food (sometimes, a la carte), real utensils not the plastic ones, better media / entertainment, etc. These are things you pay extra money for. Yeah, the food might not be up to your liking, or the aircraft might be older, or the ride might be bumpy due to turbulence, but in general, first class comfort is on a different level than economy. Once you start flying first class, for most people there is no turn back to economy if money is not issue, unless there is no first class option on the route you select.
With girls, it is always YMMV, but in general, the more expensive they are, the more perks mentioned before you get. I haven't had a shitty experience with an expensive girl. Maybe 2-3 mediocre experiences. But the rest were great and worth the money.Since I started this debate, love to know how you go about finding some one on cheap if you want the followoing.
1) 9, 10 in looks.
2) English speaking.
3) Safe (She is not going to rob me, drug me, Fake ID etc).
4) I do not want to waste time (FB, SA Girls).
Now if you are upset that people from California is coming to Medellin and paying high prices its just supply and demand. For me its 20% of California and I got far better results then what I spoend in US, thus I am happy to pay.
AmorPorFavor
06-14-24, 00:09
Incorrect. When you fly first class, you are guaranteed things like priority boarding, more legroom or seats that turn into a bed, better food (sometimes, a la carte), real utensils not the plastic ones, better media / entertainment, etc. These are things you pay extra money for. Yeah, the food might not be up to your liking, or the aircraft might be older, or the ride might be bumpy due to turbulence, but in general, first class comfort is on a different level than economy. Once you start flying first class, for most people there is no turn back to economy if money is not issue, unless there is no first class option on the route you select.
With girls, it is always YMMV, but in general, the more expensive they are, the more perks mentioned before you get. I haven't had a shitty experience with an expensive girl. Maybe 2-3 mediocre experiences. But the rest were great and worth the money.I fly first class but hire premium economy chicas. First class chicas are great and all but I can have 90% of the fun / experience for half to 2/3 the cost in premium economy.
I fly first class but hire premium economy chicas. First class chicas are great and all but I can have 90% of the fun / experience for half to 2/3 the cost in premium economy.Fly First or Business Class when you can, but fuck Premium Class chicks. Leave economy alone altogether as often as you can! LOL!
Exoticspirit
06-14-24, 00:43
Don't hate on the old dude with the young girl. There are old guys with young hot stunners all over the world. If you go to Thailand you'll catch a fit.I agree as long as the girl age of majority. I use to frown upon old guys with young girls too but I'm getting up there myself soon. Hey, we would all like to be in that old fellow's situation when we get up there. Otherwise you can feel free to get stuck with some fat, short hair, bossy, wrinkled, western woman who is closer to your age when you get up there!
but in general, the more expensive they are, the more perks mentioned before you getHow do you explain this? Do you consider CBJ a perk? Mention something that I don't get.
Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS.
and Loutron are the best options, 600 K for 45 min to an hour
How do you explain this? Do you consider CBJ a perk? Mention something that I don't get.This is generally why I never go there. CBJ is standard and up charge is not really worth it.
How do you explain this? Do you consider CBJ a perk? Mention something that I don't get.Once you pay the base fee and get in the room, the women start to upcharge. Kiss on the lips, extra. Touching her pussy, extra. She touch your dick, extra. They get creative. Extra position than mish, extra $$.
Never was like that before. They talk among themselves and you get the $$ shaft. Basic fee is only they wrap the dick and you put it in their pussy an inch, more than that they charge extra. If you move it around, that's called the "helicopter", and they charge extra.
You dodged some bullets. A 300 K loss and bad headaches are lottery first prizes for what you got into.
Was my rookie trip, first time mongering:
My spanish is decent.
Did some pre-planning dates with Facebook and Tinder before arriving.
Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS. More if using credit card. First time I went was just 1 session. Returned and had 3 sessions the 2nd time. I noticed the girls seemed to ignore me after I'the been there for a couple hours and large groups of guys were arriving, I had to ask the staff multiple times to see the presentation.
FB girls: Most of them not as pretty as photos, 200 k for the hour. Wasn't worth the time I put in setting up. Used Kuboz Suite motel in Laureles, cheap and safe area. Had one spinner from Tinder that I did repeat session, 300 k per hour.
Centro: Befriended a local taxi and hired him for 50 k per hour to drive / tour me through Centro. Bought a few joints by the church to enjoy while we did the loop around Veracruz. Average quality, a few hotties. 50 k for the ratito, 10 k the motel. At night we went to a nearby strip club, can't remember the name. Went the a VIP area with 2 girls and the taxista. Decided to try perrico and tusi, bad idea. Couldn't get it up and was tweaking out a bit. So we left and he showed me Black Diamond club in Lleras. Nice selection but I wasn't feeling good so we called it a night.
Returned another day, mostly average girls again.
Energy Spa: Average selection, a couple cuties. Did 2 sessions, 200 k for hour.
La Isla: First night I went with a group, about 350 k for the bottle to sit at a table. Slow night, the girls in dresses didn't seem they wanted to be there or to interact. Enjoyed the show and eventually called a girl over to chat. She quoted me 600 k for the hour in the adjacent motel. Agreed and left after that session.
I returned alone and ended up screwing up big time. Bought the bottle around 350 k to sit close to the stage, and proceeded to drink quickly as I was too sober, was a busy Friday night. Eventually call a dancer over and she again quotes me 600 k for her and the room for 1 hour, I pay and we go. Afterwards I'm on cloud 9 and go back to my table, finish my bottle and have the genius idea to order 6 beers. Somewhere along the way I blacked out, rest of the night is bits and pieces, don't want to remember LOL. 300 k disappeared from my wallet. I think security carried me out and laid me down to sleep on the wall outside. They told me to leave around 7 am and somehow I stumbled through the highway still blacked out and got a ride to Poblado. Felt like dogshit and couldn't do anything my last day there.
Lleras Park: Picked up a girl in the park, she insisted I bring her friend also. I say I don't like the friend, but she says the friend will just sit in the bathroom. Dumbass move but I agreed, so we leave to Kuboz Suite. Tried the tusi again, didn't like it again. End up fucking the friend too because I'm high and drunk. The friend starts talking whispers to her, can tell they're talking about drugging me but the other girl doesn't want to. Alarm bells going off so I decide to end soon after.
Ibiza Motel Lounge: Also went to this motel, very nice but a bit overpriced.
Overall things went okay, could've negotiated better and not done dumbass shit, but hey I'm a rookie with ADHD haha.
I've been with a girl on the reg for about a year and a half now. She use to charge me 400 k for 6 hours no condom. She's kinda chubby and pretty average but letting me take my time was pretty nice. Usually just pop three or so times while eating and watching tv or going out.
I told her I might be coming back in a month or two. She's asking for 1,200 for 6 hours now. She said prices for everything has gone up a lot. Is this in line with what everyone else is experiencing? Are these prices about right? Dropping 300 for the girl, and a bit more for the food and uber seems a bit much to me.
Do you guys create a 2nd profile on FB just for the Medellin trip?My profile is only for this purpose so the answer for me is yes.
I fly first class but hire premium economy chicas. First class chicas are great and all but I can have 90% of the fun / experience for half to 2/3 the cost in premium economy.Even economy has levels to it. You can fly Spirit economy, or Emirates economy. With Spirit girls, don't expect anything but crappy CBJ and CFS. Expect delays and rush service. And just as ugly as their uncomfortable seats. Emirates girls give BBBJ by default. Cost more, but provide better service.
How do you explain this? Do you consider CBJ a perk? Mention something that I don't get.Like Sang, I don't go to Loutron. Last time was there a year ago with my buddies, but didn't session. They both did though, and left quite happy. Let's be real, Loutron is probably the best and the most expensive casa in Mde. You pay premium for the best selection of girls. Compared to other casas, Loutron average girl is hotter than any other casa average girl. But since the price is fixed, you have an opportunity to find a chica that you won't find at any other brothel. 8 or 9/10. So you pay extra for that. You also pay extra for the convenient and safe location in Poblado (or close to Poblado, not sure what municipality it is located in). The rooms on site are more comfortable. The lady administrator speaks English. The girls also provide decent massage. You got to compare apples to apples. So if we compare casas, this is what you get for 400 k at Loutron.
StarletVoyager
06-14-24, 04:25
I'm considering a trip to medellin from england. Are the majority of people coming here from the USA? Are any of you travelling from much further afield? Is travelling from the UK excessive and over the top or is it normal for guys here to travel from further afield maybe europe or middle east etc etc?
one last point ive spent 3-4 days familiarising myself with the medellin thread and ive got all the main points now clear and understood. should i study the bogota thread too as a firs time visitor to colombia or just stick to medellin. the main advantage of bogota is that there is a direct flight from london to bogota. i would not need to do a second flight from bogota to medellin even if it is a very short flight its still more travelling.
Incorrect. When you fly first class, you are guaranteed things like priority boarding, more legroom or seats that turn into a bed, better food (sometimes, a la carte), real utensils not the plastic ones, better media / entertainment, etc. These are things you pay extra money for.
With girls, the more expensive they are, the more perks mentioned before you get. I haven't had a shitty experience with an expensive girl. Maybe 2-3 mediocre experiences. But the rest were great and worth the money.I am not claiming there is no difference between 1st class and economy. I am saying that the analogy that Obj set up is not rational. You only thing gauranteed in paying an expensive girl is paying more money. Thats why it's a false analogy. But I am happy to hear you were happy with the service from your expensive 5,6 and 7's.
love to know how you go about finding some one on cheap if you want the followoing.
1) 9, 10 in looks.
2) English speaking.
3) Safe (She is not going to rob me, drug me, Fake ID etc).
4) I do not want to waste time (FB, SA Girls).
Now if you are upset that people from California is coming to Medellin and paying high prices its just supply and demand. For me its 20% of California and I got far better results then what I spoend in US, thus I am happy to pay.I for one am not upset you paid more money. Thats your choice to be part of the tourist market. All I am saying is that paying high prices doesn't gaurantee you anything (other than to pay more money).
1. By looking around. I don't use a number rating scale to judge girls, but I find plenty of girls to fuck in most places. One thing I have observed is the the girls that work in the upmarket places tend to be onsessed with their appearance, wear too much make up, have false parts and false personalities. Not really my type.
2. Not smthg I have looked for, even at the time I couldn't speak Esp. Not many Colombians speak English. Get over that, and your options will open up immensely.
3. Don't take girls back to your own place, or rent a room for fcking.
4. Explore places in person and choose on site.
I am not claiming there is no difference between 1st class and economy. I am saying that the analogy that Obj set up is not rational. You only thing gauranteed in paying an expensive girl is paying more money. Thats why it's a false analogy. But I am happy to hear you were happy with the service from your expensive 5,6 and 7's.I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here? You don't fly Spirit economy for the price of Delta first class and vice versa.
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. What is not guaranteed is her great performance in bed, because of good old YMMV. If you want to minimize the risk of having a shitty session with a hot girl, you got to learn how to vet them, how to establish a good rapport, you got to looks presentable and have a good hygiene. If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her, this is so obvious I don't know why I have to explain this stuff. Pay up, be in good shape, show her a good time, and your chances of having a great GFE sex with a hot girl will increase exponentially.
I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here? You don't fly Spirit economy for the price of Delta first class and vice versa.
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. What is not guaranteed is her great performance in bed, because of good old YMMV. If you want to minimize the risk of having a shitty session with a hot girl, you got to learn how to vet them, how to establish a good rapport, you got to looks presentable and have a good hygiene. If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her, this is so obvious I don't know why I have to explain this stuff. Pay up, be in good shape, show her a good time, and your chances of having a great GFE sex with a hot girl will increase exponentially.I am old and fat and can get women in Medellin. I don't need to pay more than 400 cop. If people don't like you paying extra money will get you nowhere. I have admire GPS women in Medellin they have the sense not give it away to some broke ass loser.
I'm considering a trip to medellin from england. Are the majority of people coming here from the USA? Are any of you travelling from much further afield? Is travelling from the UK excessive and over the top or is it normal for guys here to travel from further afield maybe europe or middle east etc etc?
one last point ive spent 3-4 days familiarising myself with the medellin thread and ive got all the main points now clear and understood. should i study the bogota thread too as a firs time visitor to colombia or just stick to medellin. the main advantage of bogota is that there is a direct flight from london to bogota. i would not need to do a second flight from bogota to medellin even if it is a very short flight its still more travelling.I think that your Great British pounds will get you a much better exchange rate than USD. You will be getting quite the bargain in Medellin.
Since I started this debate, love to know how you go about finding some one on cheap if you want the followoing.
1) 9, 10 in looks.
2) English speaking.
3) Safe (She is not going to rob me, drug me, Fake ID etc).
4) I do not want to waste time (FB, SA Girls).
Now if you are upset that people from California is coming to Medellin and paying high prices its just supply and demand. For me its 20% of California and I got far better results then what I spoend in US, thus I am happy to pay.You want a cheap date who meets your 4 conditions. You are dreamin pal, stay in Cal. , save your airfare. If she meets your qualifications, her price will be big!
Haha I enjoyed reading your post.
But those "rookie mistakes" is how someone ends up dead in Colombia, or get everything stolen and messed up. Nice cautionary tale. Could've been a really bad trip, so you lucked out.
Was my rookie trip, first time mongering:
Did some pre-planning dates with Facebook and Tinder before arriving.
Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS. More if using credit card. First time I went was just 1 session. Returned and had 3 sessions the 2nd time. I noticed the girls seemed to ignore me after I'the been there for a couple hours and large groups of guys were arriving, I had to ask the staff multiple times to see the presentation.
FB girls: Most of them not as pretty as photos, 200 k for the hour. Wasn't worth the time I put in setting up. Used Kuboz Suite motel in Laureles, cheap and safe area. Had one spinner from Tinder that I did repeat session, 300 k per hour.
Centro: Befriended a local taxi and hired him for 50 k per hour to drive / tour me through Centro. Bought a few joints by the church to enjoy while we did the loop around Veracruz. Average quality, a few hotties. 50 k for the ratito, 10 k the motel. At night we went to a nearby strip club, can't remember the name. Went the a VIP area with 2 girls and the taxista. Decided to try perrico and tusi, bad idea. Couldn't get it up and was tweaking out a bit. So we left and he showed me Black Diamond club in Lleras. Nice selection but I wasn't feeling good so we called it a night.
Returned another day, mostly average girls again.
Energy Spa: Average selection, a couple cuties. Did 2 sessions, 200 k for hour.
La Isla: First night I went with a group, about 350 k for the bottle to sit at a table. Slow night, the girls in dresses didn't seem they wanted to be there or to interact. Enjoyed the show and eventually called a girl over to chat. She quoted me 600 k for the hour in the adjacent motel. Agreed and left after that session.
I returned alone and ended up screwing up big time. Bought the bottle around 350 k to sit close to the stage, and proceeded to drink quickly as I was too sober, was a busy Friday night. Eventually call a dancer over and she again quotes me 600 k for her and the room for 1 hour, I pay and we go. Afterwards I'm on cloud 9 and go back to my table, finish my bottle and have the genius idea to order 6 beers. Somewhere along the way I blacked out, rest of the night is bits and pieces, don't want to remember LOL. 300 k disappeared from my wallet. I think security carried me out and laid me down to sleep on the wall outside. They told me to leave around 7 am and somehow I stumbled through the highway still blacked out and got a ride to Poblado. Felt like dogshit and couldn't do anything my last day there.
Lleras Park: Picked up a girl in the park, she insisted I bring her friend also. I say I don't like the friend, but she says the friend will just sit in the bathroom. Dumbass move but I agreed, so we leave to Kuboz Suite. Tried the tusi again, didn't like it again. End up fucking the friend too because I'm high and drunk. The friend starts talking whispers to her, can tell they're talking about drugging me but the other girl doesn't want to. Alarm bells going off so I decide to end soon after.
Ibiza Motel Lounge: Also went to this motel, very nice but a bit overpriced.
Overall things went okay, could've negotiated better and not done dumbass shit, but hey I'm a rookie.
I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here?No logic. But then I don't expect any logic from you. And your history changes each time you relate it.
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. This is so typical of the nonsense you speak. Why would the price I pay the girl have any impact on the comfort of the environment? I would just be seeing her in my hotel room / apartment, just like I would if I paid less for a girl. Really, you invest so much in your fantasy world, that you cannot even so the glaring nonsense in your words.
If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her.I am a stinky obese douchbag, but the girls enjoy sex with me, no matter how little I pay them. I think it's bcos I treat them like sentient human beings.
MaddTraveler
06-14-24, 09:11
I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here? You don't fly Spirit economy for the price of Delta first class and vice versa.
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. What is not guaranteed is her great performance in bed, because of good old YMMV. If you want to minimize the risk of having a shitty session with a hot girl, you got to learn how to vet them, how to establish a good rapport, you got to looks presentable and have a good hygiene. If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her, this is so obvious I don't know why I have to explain this stuff. Pay up, be in good shape, show her a good time, and your chances of having a great GFE sex with a hot girl will increase exponentially.I do my best not to address or reply to guys like you directly here but damn bro. No need for this type of comment. You're always make toxic statements. I mean, if you made sense, you'd get some credit but you're just writing a bunch of gibberish most of the time.
First of all, you DO NOT speak for women cause you're not one. And even if were secretly a woman troll, you still don't speak for every woman. Post a pic of your vg publicly if you disagree!
Secondly, women arent as superficial as men. Men see bodies and looks more than women do. Obvious youth and look matters. But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.
A man can be obese, old or ugly and find "real" love from women, bc a woman will love you for your charm, your personality, genuinely. A woman will fall in love with you for changing her tire if she was stranded, or just holding the door or buying her flowers, the list goes on. It's a matter of the heart. And no one, I mean no one on the planet should be dumb enough to try or dare to try to speak on this subject for all. It's not even arrogance, it's pure ignorance and I pity you.
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment..Here is smthg I experienced to refute all that you say.
I am in Pattaya for the first time in 5 years. A few days ago I went down my fave strip in Pattaya Soi 6. To my horror I note that the girls are now charging THB 2000 short time, whereas just 5 years ago it was 8 or 900 THB. More than double the price.
Do you think the girls got hotter? No. They are exactly the same skanky girls that have always worked there.
Do you think the girls can now speak English? No. They all know the same 20 words of English each.
Do you think the rooms are nicer or the girls dress smarter? No. Rooms haven't been touched and the girsl all wear those cheap go-go outfits that you can buy for about THB 100 down the market.
The reason the prices went up is bcos the bar owners (now a capitalist oligarchy) got together and decided they could charge dumbass tourists like you double what they charged before.
So now Soi 6 is a no-go for me. I will focus on the other locations which the locals frequent and which charge fairer prices. No doubt you will start to consider Soi 6 "a hot place' bcos the prices are now high (therefore it must be hot).
Mr Enternational
06-14-24, 12:39
I have admire GPS women in Medellin they have the sense not give it away to some broke ass loser.I think you forgot a word. They have the sense not to give it away to some broke ass FOREIGN loser. Sure there are broke ass losers where they are from that they have given and are giving it away to. And what makes her God's gift that she should not be giving it away besides some losers that can not get pussy anywhere else that they must give her the price she asks? If she has nothing else going for herself, the options may just be sell this pussy or do not eat. Nothing spectacular or ultrasensible about that decision.
I for one am not upset you paid more money. Thats your choice to be part of the tourist market. All I am saying is that paying high prices doesn't gaurantee you anything (other than to pay more money).
1. By looking around. I don't use a number rating scale to judge girls, but I find plenty of girls to fuck in most places. One thing I have observed is the the girls that work in the upmarket places tend to be onsessed with their appearance, wear too much make up, have false parts and false personalities. Not really my type.
2. Not smthg I have looked for, even at the time I couldn't speak Esp. Not many Colombians speak English. Get over that, and your options will open up immensely.
3. Don't take girls back to your own place, or rent a room for fcking.
4. Explore places in person and choose on site.#1. That is a hit and miss: I do my research (See #4), I get the girl for an hour, and if things work out, I go for the 5 hour package (which usually ends up a whole day for the same price).
#2. I don't want to learn Spanish; The same goes for FKK clubs in Germany or Thailand. I don't want to spend time learning a language to find cheap pusy. Happy to pay more for someone who can speak some English.
#3. I do not want to have sex in a room with cum covered mattress when I am paying for a lovely suite at one of the best hotels in Medellin. I want a GF experience.
#4. There is a Spanish forum (Like Theeroticreview in US) with extensive reviews about the call girls in Colombia. Reading that is a better review than talking to a girl for 5 min at a strip bar.
I have been involved in startups all my life (I am 63), and nothing is guaranteed. You do your research, start a company, and try it out. Ninety percent of the startups I worked on went out of business, but then you hit IPO (Twice for me), and that was worth all the failures. Finding women is kind of like that.
You want a cheap date who meets your 4 conditions. You are dreamin pal, stay in Cal. , save your airfare. If she meets your qualifications, her price will be big!That's the exact point I was trying to make. If you read the past 2 days of threads, you will see few are upset I spent $$$ to find a woman with those requirements.
JohnnieCash
06-14-24, 15:29
But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.Women don't pay for sex because they can easily and always find attractive enough guys who fuck them for free. It's the easiest thing in a world for a woman to find someone to have sex with, but not as easy to find someone to have a long term monogamous relationship with or someone that sticks around, so if she looks for that then the other considerations come in play.
And when they are old and unattractive then they do pay for sex -- women do sex tourism too (well, the ones that can afford it at least).
I'm considering a trip to medellin from england. Are the majority of people coming here from the USA? Are any of you travelling from much further afield? Is travelling from the UK excessive and over the top or is it normal for guys here to travel from further afield maybe europe or middle east etc etc?
one last point ive spent 3-4 days familiarising myself with the medellin thread and ive got all the main points now clear and understood. should i study the bogota thread too as a firs time visitor to colombia or just stick to medellin. the main advantage of bogota is that there is a direct flight from london to bogota. i would not need to do a second flight from bogota to medellin even if it is a very short flight its still more travelling.I think most visitors are from the US mainly due to the ease of travel.
I'll be making my 4th trip from England in September, the travel is absolutely worth it, I've come to quite enjoy it now.
I start & end my trips in Bogota & appreciate the difference with Medellin, even though I've only scraped the surface in Santa Fe.
Medellin is where I spend the bulk of my time, the short flight from Bogota is no inconvenience whatsoever.
You should take some time to get to know Bogota a little too.
Mr Enternational
06-14-24, 16:23
First of all, you DO NOT speak for women cause you're not one.
Secondly, women arent as superficial as men. Men see bodies and looks more than women do. Obvious youth and look matters. But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.
A man can be obese, old or ugly and find "real" love from women, bc a woman will love you for your charm, your personality, genuinely. A woman will fall in love with you for changing her tire if she was strandedI have to agree with you, but with a caveat. What you are saying works with women that are not hookers. Never heard a woman that was not a hooker list the things she is looking for as he says is what will make a hooker do a good job. It is always a bunch of abstract stuff, nothing about being in shape or smelling good. Maybe what he says are things that hookers are looking for in tricks? It seems asinine though because you are the customer trying to impress someone you are paying. He says pay up. Then after that you have to impress her with how you look and a good time. Huh? If my plumber came over here, I would not have to give him over and above the usual amount for plumbers, have an ice cold beer waiting for him, neatly lay out all his tools, and make sure he has a soft cushion to kneel on, all in order to expect him to do a good job.
Then you have to figure these chicks are doing this shit day in and day out. After a while, if you have seen one guy in shape, and one guy smelling good, and one guy showing you a good time, then you have seen them all. You are showing her nothing new. Like the guy that was talking about getting an expensive hotel room so the hookers could be comfortable. Mf she has probably already been there so many times that her and the staff call each other by name. You are in fact casting your pearls among swine. Now for a chick that is not a hooker amd does not go out with a bunch of men, this type of treatment will get you somewhere. But with tricks doing this shit day in and day out for a hooker in addition to paying her, it has surely become mundane and is bringing nothing special out of her the way he wants to think it is.
Here is smthg I experienced to refute all that you say.
I am in Pattaya for the first time in 5 years. A few days ago I went down my fave strip in Pattaya Soi 6. To my horror I note that the girls are now charging THB 2000 short time, whereas just 5 years ago it was 8 or 900 THB. More than double the price.
Do you think the girls got hotter? No. They are exactly the same skanky girls that have always worked there.
Do you think the girls can now speak English? No. They all know the same 20 words of English each.
Do you think the rooms are nicer or the girls dress smarter? No. Rooms haven't been touched and the girsl all wear those cheap go-go outfits that you can buy for about THB 100 down the market.
The reason the prices went up is bcos the bar owners (now a capitalist oligarchy) got together and decided they could charge dumbass tourists like you double what they charged before.
So now Soi 6 is a no-go for me. I will focus on the other locations which the locals frequent and which charge fairer prices. No doubt you will start to consider Soi 6 "a hot place' bcos the prices are now high (therefore it must be hot).To refute all that I said? This has nothing to do with what I said. You are talking about hoeflation that exists everywhere in the world, along with inflation. Cheap girls become more expensive. Expensive girls become even more expensive. New Life used to be 55 mil /1 HR. Now it is like 115 mil / HR. More than 100% up, despite the fact that the majority of clients are locals. Same location, same girls, same cum covered mattress, just like in your example. So what? You completely miss my point. If there was a place next door to new life, with exactly the same lineup in terms of looks, same rooms and everything, but half the price, it would make zero sense to go to new life and pay double (what for? But for some people, it makes sense to go to Loutron and pay almost 4 x the new life rate because of all the things I mentioned in response to Nounce's post. But you, cheapskate, will never understand that there are levels to everything we have in life and you get what you pay for. Good luck with fucking cheap street uglies in Thailand.
I am a stinky obese douchbag, but the girls enjoy sex with me, no matter how little I pay them. I think it's bcos I treat them like sentient human beings.Only in your wet dreams.
If you can't take care of your own body, you have no self respect. And if you don't respect yourself, how can you respect others? No need to reply, it is a rhetorical question.
MaddTraveler
06-14-24, 20:20
Women don't pay for sex because they can easily and always find attractive enough guys who fuck them for free. It's the easiest thing in a world for a woman to find someone to have sex with, but not as easy to find someone to have a long term monogamous relationship with or someone that sticks around, so if she looks for that then the other considerations come in play.
And when they are old and unattractive then they do pay for sex -- women do sex tourism too (well, the ones that can afford it at least).BS, it's a very small amt of women in sex tourism. You're speaking from a man's pov, not a woman cause you don't know shit about women. Obviously.
Most readers arent going to be surprised reading these nonsense posts; why?
Mongering forums are 80% of losers, men who never had real relationships and never had real women; have been deprived of the finer things in life. Could be due to mental defects (like Miamiboy and the likes of u) or body / look or lack of personality / charisma. Yes charisma / personality among other things are some of the traits women seek as well.
The other 20% are divorced men or men with extra money and extra sex drives that travel for leisure and fun and can still have normal relationships. Like celebrities do.
I'm losing brain cells to even have to mention this. If your point was valid then why do most local women from every country only date their local men? Including the fat, old, and ugly ones? We see them everyday so I don't have to speak on women's behalf. We see it all over the world. As for prostitutes, they'll gladly take your money and go back to their fat and old local boyfriends. Also men from countries with a bit more money travel bc of restrictions and feminists attitudes, bad politics that fucked up our system. It's a huge part of why we do what we do.
So don't be an arrogant prick trying to understand women. You never will. This is no different than feminist dikes who write articles about men pretending they have a dick and know us. It's why they say men are from mars and women from venus. We have a need to please our dicks, have multiple women, and only way we can stay loyal with only one is if we make a sacrifice. For women, according to them and what we see in everyday life, it's easy. Bc women have their hearts in their vg. Like we can cheat on our wives and still go home and kiss her with zero guilts, whereas if she cheats it's purely because she loves the other guy better and planning to leave you (speaking of normal women, not hos). This is bc if she gives it up it's like giving her heart. But for us, sex is just sport, hence why we pay easily for it without negotiating. If men all over start restricting their dicks like fine women do then that would level the playing field. But unfortunately there are things we cannot fake due to our dna and who we are.
Dude, I'm still young, fit, good looking, and still pull even teenagers back home and anywhere, and they themselves hit on me. I only say this to show I'm not arguing on behalf of fat and old. I'm simply saying your attitude is just dumb as hell.
I know exactly 100% why Miamiboy and you have this attitude, thinking you're better and getting more quality pussy than your fellow mongers. When I started mongering, I noticed most guys doing this were older, unattractive, overweight, hence the 80% majority of losers from my prev point. But I never let that get to my head. I often have girls come to me begging me to chose them, and they'd whisper shit like please pick me, I don't want granpa over there to take me LOL. So yeah, working girls do that. At times they may fake that shit blowing up your ego so they get picked, or it could be true that they'd enjoy their session more with a younger fella than an old fart.
I keep my attitude in check bc I say to myself that we all get old, and I'm going to get there soon. This is for wg bc there are no relationships or emotions involved for the most part.
As far as normal women, who value a good man whether due to fact he cares for her and her family financially, has a great personality, etc, that love often will be genuine and look is the least important factor.
Do me a favor, sit down, trying bending over really hard and give yourselves a blowjob since you love yourselves so fucking much. Dumb mfrs. LMAO.
MaddTraveler
06-14-24, 20:30
I think you forgot a word. They have the sense not to give it away to some broke ass FOREIGN loser. Sure there are broke ass losers where they are from that they have given and are giving it away to. And what makes her God's gift that she should not be giving it away besides some losers that can not get pussy anywhere else that they must give her the price she asks? If she has nothing else going for herself, the options may just be sell this pussy or do not eat. Nothing spectacular or ultrasensible about that decision.End of discussion!! We don't always agree Mr E. But well said!
Women all over the world prefer their local men, at least by default even as we invade with money, not all of them care. We see them everyday, dimes walking around with locals incl fat and old men. These fools here are delusional just cause they're younger and not obese. Yet they're here in this forum, paying for pussy, and somehow they believe they're blue chip stock for these wgs lmao.
Do you guys create a 2nd profile on FB just for the Medellin trip?Some of them do, I personally was going to make another FB account but at the end I said F*ck it, I'm 50 and single, the hell with relatives and what they think.
KebabOperator
06-15-24, 03:28
I know this guy for years, and do consider him a friend but believe 25 percent of what he says, as he has a habit of really exaggerating things. Just being honest with you all!I have no idea who you are, and I am 100% sure you don't know me. Why even claim something like this? Smh.
I do my best not to address or reply to guys like you directly here but damn bro. No need for this type of comment. You're always make toxic statements. I mean, if you made sense, you'd get some credit but you're just writing a bunch of gibberish most of the time.
First of all, you DO NOT speak for women cause you're not one. And even if were secretly a woman troll, you still don't speak for every woman. Post a pic of your vg publicly if you disagree!
Secondly, women arent as superficial as men. Men see bodies and looks more than women do. Obvious youth and look matters. But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.
A man can be obese, old or ugly and find "real" love from women, bc a woman will love you for your charm, your personality, genuinely. A woman will fall in love with you for changing her tire if she was stranded, or just holding the door or buying her flowers, the list goes on. It's a matter of the heart. And no one, I mean no one on the planet should be dumb enough to try or dare to try to speak on this subject for all. It's not even arrogance, it's pure ignorance and I pity you.If you see no correlation between being in good shape, establishing a rapport (personality helps, duh! Showing her a good time, etc. And having a great time in bed, I feel sorry for you. What I said totally makes sense, apparently not for you, because you live in the parallel universe where women fall in love with some old obese douchebag who helped her change the tire jajaja.
#2. I don't want to learn Spanish; The same goes for FKK clubs in Germany or Thailand. I don't want to spend time learning a language to find cheap pusy. Happy to pay more for someone who can speak some English.
I wouldn't say the primary purpose of learning a language is to find cheap pussy. I agree, that would be a waste of time. Rather, it is to enrish one's life experience thru understanding.
I am curious about this claim that you pay more for Eng language. I can see theoretically how an SW agency, for example, might highlight language ability of their grils, or even include a search filter, but really, do they charge extra? Does that mean I get a discount if I ask her only to speak Esp? What about non-Eng speakers, do they get a discount? Seems a rather absurd idea. Why don't you try the English speaking states / nations?
To refute all that I said? This has nothing to do with what I said. You are talking about hoeflation that exists everywhere in the world, along with inflation. Sorry, it is you that is missing the point, yet again. This is not hoeflation, rather it is the establishment of 2-tier pricing. One for the tourist and one for locals, but with clear evidence that the girls are just the same. One can find the same quality chicks at half the price via a 5-min motorbike ride and a bit of local / prior knowledge. Exactly the same as in MDE.
But for some people, it makes sense to go to Loutron and pay almost 4 x the new life rate because of all the things I mentioned in response to Nounce's post. But you, cheapskate, will never understand that there are levels to everything we have in life and you get what you pay for. Good luck with fucking cheap street uglies in Thailand.Yes, to soothe their egos and bcos they do not know nor care about any thing else.
But you will never understand that there are levels to everything we have in life and you get what you pay for. Good luck with fucking cheap street uglies in Thailand.The only clearly defined levels here are the price and your cognitive dissonance. My "cheap street uglies" are the same girls that are twice the price 5 minutes away.
You're speaking from a man's pov, not a woman cause you don't know shit about women. Obviously.
This is the best post I remember reading from you. Well said.
I wouldn't say the primary purpose of learning a language is to find cheap pussy. I agree, that would be a waste of time. Rather, it is to enrish one's life experience thru understanding.
I am curious about this claim that you pay more for Eng language. I can see theoretically how an SW agency, for example, might highlight language ability of their grils, or even include a search filter, but really, do they charge extra? Does that mean I get a discount if I ask her only to speak Esp? What about non-Eng speakers, do they get a discount? Seems a rather absurd idea. Why don't you try the English speaking states / nations?Learning a new language when you are older is very hard; I have zero interest in learning a language other than knowing 50-100 words + Google Translate.
https://lacelestina.co/ has information on each girl's language ability on the website. You will not find native English speakers, but most girls are very good.
As for sticking to English-speaking states / nations, Medellin cost one-fifth of what it cost me back in the US. The Philippines is another place, but I will not sit on a plane for 24 to 36 hours.
I am already planning my next trip. Yes, I will pay for convenience and quality, which will increase your mongering cost, but I do not care as I am saving money, and that's all that matters.
MaddTraveler
06-15-24, 07:31
If you see no correlation between being in good shape, establishing a rapport (personality helps, duh! Showing her a good time, etc. And having a great time in bed, I feel sorry for you. What I said totally makes sense, apparently not for you, because you live in the parallel universe where women fall in love with some old obese douchebag who helped her change the tire jajaja.Yes the correlation exists for looks but so does personality and charm just as much.
Oh, there's a name for it, something that should end this debate and it's called "Love".
Love has no conditions. Meaning real love has nothing to do with looks, money, etc when it's genuine. If you haven't experienced it, at least try reading a book or observe others. Get your head out of your arse for 1 min.
Your logic and argument is totally flawed. Because if good look is mandatory for true love then it's a condition. And everyone on the planet including all philosophies, social studies, religious studies are wrong except you.
At this point I'm going to consider you as a mentality disabled child, or a woman troll pretending, bringing up the same toxic argument every couple months. Either that or you have an extreme case of low self esteem that triggers you to seek approval over and over in a monger forum. Yikes.
I have been reading this forum for years and finally visiting Bogota and Medellin for first time. My plan is to be in Medellin from July 2 till July 15.
So far I have booked a visitor friendly Airbnb walking distance from parque llieras (calle 10 carrera 42 area close to Manila). I thought that would be good location every evening to meet girls and bring them to Airbnb.
But as I have built up contacts of almost 60 Facebook girls on WhatsApp, I am wondering if should be at San Peter Apartments on higher floor at Laureles instead. Either way those girls have to reach those Airbnb from their home location.
I don't drink or smoke or do drugs, and vegetarian. So I thought laureles may have better restaurant, grocery and environment for me. Would Manila which is walkable from Parque llieras Airbnb offer similar good options?
Airbnb at parque llieras is at just 1st level without much view. I see many girls post their pictures from tall buildings with Medellin skyline view. May be girls like to be in such tall buildings compared to first level parque llieras Airbnb?
Any thoughts? I am also considering splitting stay with 1 week at Parque llieras and 1 week at Laureles San Peter Apartments.
Mr Enternational
06-15-24, 14:33
If you see no correlation between being in good shape, establishing a rapport (personality helps, duh! Showing her a good time, etc. And having a great time in bed, I feel sorry for you. What I said totally makes sense, The correlation I see is that you gave her a significant amount of money. Arrive with all the good shape and rapport and good time with her knowing you are not giving her money, then come back and talk about the great time you had in bed.
If I hire a housekeeper I am not assuming she cleans my house very good because the house looks nice and it is very comfortable. I know she ain't cleaning shit if I am not paying her. At the end of the day you are hiring someone. You are blowing your head up to believe they are doing a good job due to factors other than the money.
I fucking get it though. Because when I started mongering I was kind of the same way. My first couple of times to Help Disco in Rio I wore a suit and gator shoes. I used to be drinking and dancing with the chicks having a good old time. Man I had some of the best times of my life. Then I stopped with the suits and would just go stand in front of the club with shorts, tank top, and flip flops on and get chicks as they were going in. Man I still had some of the best times of my life. There was zero difference in the experience in bed with the chicks. And I was still just giving them 100 reais ($25) for all night.
Same thing in Thailand. Me and my wingman had been hanging out all day. It comes time to go to the club and I say let's go back to the hotel to get ready. My wingman said man I am not about to dress up for no hoes. So we go to the club with the same shorts, tank top, and flip flops. That we had been wearing all day sweating in the hot sun. Same result. Loads of fun and took a chick all night for the same $30 that I still give them to this day.
So I am able to speak from both sides of the coin. Either I am able to have a good time in and out of bed with hookers becuase of the money and / or my personality. But I can tell you for a fact that results are not coming because I am dressing up or wining and dining them or call myself building some type of rapport. I have done it both ways and gotten the same results. Frankly, I do not know how you can claim it to be correlated if you have only done it one way.
Any thoughts? I am also considering splitting stay with 1 week at Parque llieras and 1 week at Laureles San Peter Apartments.You have the right idea. Those pictures are more likely from places like Energy Living than from San Peter because SP only has window and does not have a balcony.
Mr Enternational
06-15-24, 14:48
I personally was going to make another FB account but at the end I said F*ck it, I'm 50 and single, the hell with relatives and what they think.Relatives do not fucking care what you are doing. They have their own lives to worry about. Joe Biden's son is out fucking hookers AND smoking crack. So what. He is a grown ass man. Are the hookers on facebook worried about what their relatives will think?
SavePros321
06-15-24, 15:39
I have zero interest in learning a language other than knowing 50-100 words + Google Translate.I'd advise newbies not to take that same approach. Imagine being dropped in the middle of a place where you have no idea what is being said to you or about you and having to rely on pulling out your cell phone to use Google Translate to make sense of it all.
Congrats, you've just made yourself the biggest mark in town. Half of the horror stories we hear about here are guys intentionally setting themselves up for failure; all in the name of cheap pussy.
Relatives do not fucking care what you are doing. They have their own lives to worry about. Joe Biden's son is out fucking hookers AND smoking crack. So what. He is a grown ass man. Are the hookers on facebook worried about what their relatives will think?You'd be amazed at the influence of family in some of these countries. I was conducting an interview once, and it was clear that the people before me were a couple. The guy steps forward and I interview him for what he was there for and done. And so the young lady now comes forward and sits down, and I ask her if she is with the guy. She says no, and I immediately call her out on her bullshit. "Come on, it's obvious you're together! Why are you lying about that"? She said, "Well, my family wouldn't understand". I replied, "Am I your family? Stop with the lying about something so simple and obvious as this". So here was this 20-something year-old female obviously hooked up with this guy out of marriage, and she's lying to me because of what her family might think about the relationship. Moral of the story is the the influence of family and what they think about what you are doing can be really, really strong in some of these countries around the world, including much stronger than in the States. And in this case, leading somebody to lie about shit when there was no for her to do that.
I have been reading this forum for years and finally visiting Bogota and Medellin for first time. My plan is to be in Medellin from July 2 till July 15.
So far I have booked a visitor friendly Airbnb walking distance from parque llieras (calle 10 carrera 42 area close to Manila). I thought that would be good location every evening to meet girls and bring them to Airbnb.
But as I have built up contacts of almost 60 Facebook girls on WhatsApp, I am wondering if should be at San Peter Apartments on higher floor at Laureles instead. Either way those girls have to reach those Airbnb from their home location.
I don't drink or smoke or do drugs, and vegetarian. So I thought laureles may have better restaurant, grocery and environment for me. Would Manila which is walkable from Parque llieras Airbnb offer similar good options?
Airbnb at parque llieras is at just 1st level without much view. I see many girls post their pictures from tall buildings with Medellin skyline view. May be girls like to be in such tall buildings compared to first level parque llieras Airbnb?
Any thoughts? I am also considering splitting stay with 1 week at Parque llieras and 1 week at Laureles San Peter Apartments.Sure, the girls enjoy the luxury places, but they are there for the money. If anything the more luxurious the more they might demand a higher price. If they think you are ultra rich their bottom line price may be higher. Who knows. But any of the places you might stay are fine with them. Your safety and security is a bigger factor in my opinion. Get a place that screens the girls and if you pay them that is what they want.
VsebudetNY
06-15-24, 16:29
Some of them do, I personally was going to make another FB account but at the end I said F*ck it, I'm 50 and single, the hell with relatives and what they think.Are you sure you want Colombian chicas and chicos pretending to be chicas to know your real name, place of living, employment, family etc?
VsebudetNY
06-15-24, 16:42
Are the hookers on facebook worried about what their relatives will think?Most of them are. That's why they have multiple accounts with different names and in most cases the FB profile name is different from the name on cedula. And that's the reason why you see some FB chicas using arabic, hindi etc in their names
If you see no correlation between being in good shape, establishing a rapport (personality helps, duh! Showing her a good time, etc. And having a great time in bed, I feel sorry for you. What I said totally makes sense, apparently not for you, because you live in the parallel universe where women fall in love with some old obese douchebag who helped her change the tire jajaja.The clothes don't make the man. But if you're obese you're not going to make the clothes look good either so how could you ever make a woman look good. And being obese is within your control while your looks height is not.
So if a man doesn't care enough to take care of himself why should he expect a woman to reciprocate.
There's a reason strip clubs and night clubs and high end restaurants have dress codes.
If you go to the top clubs in Colombia going in shorts and a tank will def will hinder your experience.
If you go into Encore over at the Wynn in Vegas in shorts and a tank you will be considered as VIP since anyone who knows anything knows they would never allow that unless you got a lot of money.
JohnnieCash
06-15-24, 17:49
BS, it's a very small amt of women in sex tourism. Didn't say it was a big amount but that it happens, it is quite common knowledge in Europe on why older local women vacation in Africa.
You're speaking from a man's pov, not a woman cause you don't know shit about women. Obviously. Thank you for enlightening me, you on the other hand are speaking from a women's point of view because you are a woman, is that it?
I'm losing brain cells... That's evident.
If your point was valid then why do most local women from every country only date their local men? I was talking about sex not dating, but they date whoever is available that meets their criteria / needs, criteria which are different if they are looking for long term partner vs a lover to have some fun with (how long do those dating-relationships usually last anyway?) Who else are they supposed to be dating -- local men are the majority in every country and not every woman can get the 'best man' that she wishes for, so they make compromises and settle (wasn't there some tinder statistic that women like 5% of men and men like 60%?
Western society have 'advanced' in last decades and now scores of western women don't have to settle -- due to salaries they can earn, state support, dating apps, contraceptives / abortion (pregnancy risk-free sex, something quite new evolutionary speaking) -- hence the 'relationship crisis' in the west.
And I never said the looks are the main consideration for women since I don't think that's true, unless they are looking for a short time lover or a baby daddy, while already having a loyal guy lined up that will help raise it (paternity fraud varies a lot depending on country, between 0. 8% and 30% , median being 3. 7%.
Let's have a thought experiment, life is obviously more complex than that but -- all things being equal -- you have two exact men in all aspects except one is better looking, who would the woman choose if she could choose both?
I seem to recall some studies done with infants where they do stare longer at attractive faces. Adults can make other considerations but the fact remains that looks aren't completely irrelevant, it's something hardwired and a mechanism used to quickly / instinctually judge reproductive health, among other things, and often not something anyone is consciously aware of while making choices.
whereas if she cheats it's purely because she loves the other guy better and planning to leave you (speaking of normal women, not hos). This is bc if she gives it up it's like giving her heart. Huh say what? You seem to hold a lot for romantic ideas about women and love. Women give it up all the time on a whim to guys they are not planning to have LT monogamous relationship with (present company included). Their 'heart' is a fluid and unstable thing. That being said women are generally way less promiscuous than men, due to different biological imperative, but the point still stands, it's easy for women to find someone to have sex with and a below 30 yo women incels are rare, they don't pay because they don't need to pay for something they can get easily for free (again, the minority of sex-tourists excluded).
I know exactly 100%... Uh, you don't know shit but presume a lot. I personally disagree with 98% of Miamiboy's posts so don't put me in the same bag.
I don't think I'm better and don't give a flying fuck about who someone else is fucking or dating, the number ratings and the "my hoe is better than your ho therefore I am better" BS.
I don't date WGs or pay girls to spend time with me (though some like to hang out), I pay for no-dating-required sex, the whole damn point of paying is that I don't have to spend time on dating, developing and maintaining relationships while still being able to fuck many different girls. It wouldn't be feasible to date so many different girls for these purposes and still have time for other things. Life is short. Dating and time investment in relationship is reserved for normal (non WG) girls. That being said, some of WGs are quite sweet, personable and like to hang out and / or talk and are fun to be around, and we have quite good 'working relationship' and sometimes just a friendship after we're no longer fucking.
Do me a favor, sit down, trying bending over really hard and give yourselves a blowjob since you love yourselves so fucking much. Dumb mfrs. LMAO. You like to imagine men sucking dicks, do you? Good for you, no judgement.
......... I often have girls come to me begging me to chose them, and they'd whisper shit like please pick me, I don't want granpa over there to take me LOL..... .LOL its a sales pitch. That same girl will go to the grandpa and say 'Please pick me, I like older men'. Who has the money and inclination gets laid and the girl wins.
MaddTraveler
06-15-24, 20:28
LOL its a sales pitch. That same girl will go to the grandpa and say 'Please pick me, I like older men'. Who has the money and inclination gets laid and the girl wins.Of course!! When I was new to the game it sounded good, then quickly I realized it's all BS. Thing is I make friends quickly and always chat with other fellas in waiting rooms or bars, and at times they'd have the same girl saying the opposite. Incl telling you I love your blue eyes, then run to another oh I prefer morenos LOL.
I guess part of mongering is a fantasy, a huge part. In this sense let the noobs dream that it's not all about money and it's their abs LOL. Or let them pay more fantasizing she'll suck it harder lmao.
Learning a new language when you are older is very hard; I have zero interest in learning a language other than knowing 50-100 words + Google Translate.
I'd advise newbies not to take that same approach. Imagine being dropped in the middle of a place where you have no idea what is being said to you or about you and having to rely on pulling out your cell phone to use Google Translate to make sense of it all.
Congrats, you've just made yourself the biggest mark in town. Half of the horror stories we hear about here are guys intentionally setting themselves up for failure; all in the name of cheap pussy.I absolutely agree with you SavePros321. Laziness has its costs. Many guys think they can come to Medellin and enjoy all there is and it will be cheap and with Google translate everything will be groovy. People do it all the time. But speaking Spanish at a respectable level has benefits, big benefits. If you only want to go to casas and bang hookers, I get the lazy attitude. But if you speak Spanish, you can talk to women and make dates. You pull out your Google translate and you aren't getting very many dates.
I keep telling guys all the time that Latin America is different. Women don't have the same attitude that you are used to in the US. Girls going out with older men is not a big deal. Most men their age don't make enough money to go out to a medium or higher-end restaurant. That is an invitation they don't get often. You don't have to be Brad Pitt. If you aren't obese and don't have warts on your nose and don't dress like a complete slob the dating pool is bountiful but you can't get there without speaking the language.
As you pointed out. You simply cannot be pulling your phone out to operate Google translate in the middle of some barrios. You don't want to make yourself stick out more than you already do. Of course to be fair, I've lived here for several years and that is a different dynamic.
The correlation I see is that you gave her a significant amount of money. Arrive with all the good shape and rapport and good time with her knowing you are not giving her money, then come back and talk about the great time you had in bed.
If I hire a housekeeper I am not assuming she cleans my house very good because the house looks nice and it is very comfortable. I know she ain't cleaning shit if I am not paying her. At the end of the day you are hiring someone. You are blowing your head up to believe they are doing a good job due to factors other than the money.
I fucking get it though. Because when I started mongering I was kind of the same way. My first couple of times to Help Disco in Rio I wore a suit and gator shoes. I used to be drinking and dancing with the chicks having a good old time. Man I had some of the best times of my life. Then I stopped with the suits and would just go stand in front of the club with shorts, tank top, and flip flops on and get chicks as they were going in. Man I still had some of the best times of my life. There was zero difference in the experience in bed with the chicks. And I was still just giving them 100 reais ($25) for all night.
Same thing in Thailand. Me and my wingman had been hanging out all day. It comes time to go to the club and I say let's go back to the hotel to get ready. My wingman said man I am not about to dress up for no hoes. So we go to the club with the same shorts, tank top, and flip flops. That we had been wearing all day sweating in the hot sun. Same result. Loads of fun and took a chick all night for the same $30 that I still give them to this day.
So I am able to speak from both sides of the coin. Either I am able to have a good time in and out of bed with hookers becuase of the money and / or my personality. But I can tell you for a fact that results are not coming because I am dressing up or wining and dining them or call myself building some type of rapport. I have done it both ways and gotten the same results. Frankly, I do not know how you can claim it to be correlated if you have only done it one way.You focus too much on the hardened high volume pros who don't appreciate wining and dining or building a rapport. You are just another client they want to be done with as a soon as possible, so that they can go back to Lleras or Centro streets to get another customer and earn a buck. With these women, I don't expect to have a time of my life, I just want a quick pop and move on. Why would I dine and wine a street hooker or build a rapport with her, or show her a good time, knowing she doesn't care of any of this shit? And neither do I, because I know what to expect and investing more money or time makes zero sense. Heck, I won't remember her name 5 minutes after the session. Seriously, how many quick sessions with the pros, where I didn't wine and dine them or get to know them, do I remember? Barely any. Almost none of them are memorable. The best times of my life I had with the girls who appreciated all the things we are talking about. Yeah, everyone wants money, but not everyone is desperate and for some women having a good time with a person they vibe is equally important. Key is to find this kind of woman and ditch all the pros. So, I'm speaking from both sides of the coin.
It appeals to my warped sense of humor that guys are on this site where we all use aliases and likely also use false names on facebook accounts for the purposes of pulling chicas are questioning whether girls would do the same or be concerned about what people who don't know about their extra curriculars would think. LOL.
Most of them are. That's why they have multiple accounts with different names and in most cases the FB profile name is different from the name on cedula. And that's the reason why you see some FB chicas using arabic, hindi etc in their names
For a long while, the girls looked pretty similar to their photos online, most looked better. After the pandemic, shit changed. Most of the girls are using filters and I have been duped numerous times. The fatties and darkies are altering their images to look white and thin. One of the girls was fat and not pretty, with lip filler. She was too quick to accept my office and come over. When she arrived, I was shocked. Later I found out that the ***** was on her period. I stop and told her to leave. She wanted 200 k and I argued with her back and forth but it was not worth it. She was doing this scam for a bit and being from a super poor family, she would do anything for the money.
Another girl was super cute and fit on the photos but when she came, her body was thin and had a jiggling tone to it. Had 2 kids and was drinking with she could so her muscle tone sucked and she was not pretty. She was OK with BB but I just did CIM and let her leave. Paid in full. She contacted 5 more times over the next several months but I never returned her messages.
There are another 3-5 girls that I can talk about but the main point is to video call them! This way you see them and make sure it's not a man pretending to be a girl and so forth. Have her be in a very well let area and check her out. If she cannnot do that, it means she is not pretty or something else. Hard pass and move on.
Excellent, excellent advice, it really should be rule #1 for first time dates with girls sourced online. It was great advice before filters and AI started showing up on social media. To source dates no without video calls is a form of Russian Roulette.
For a long while, the girls looked pretty similar to their photos online, most looked better. After the pandemic, shit changed. Most of the girls are using filters and I have been duped numerous times. The fatties and darkies are altering their images to look white and thin. One of the girls was fat and not pretty, with lip filler. She was too quick to accept my office and come over. When she arrived, I was shocked. Later I found out that the ***** was on her period. I stop and told her to leave. She wanted 200 k and I argued with her back and forth but it was not worth it. She was doing this scam for a bit and being from a super poor family, she would do anything for the money.
Another girl was super cute and fit on the photos but when she came, her body was thin and had a jiggling tone to it. Had 2 kids and was drinking with she could so her muscle tone sucked and she was not pretty. She was OK with BB but I just did CIM and let her leave. Paid in full. She contacted 5 more times over the next several months but I never returned her messages.
There are another 3-5 girls that I can talk about but the main point is to video call them! This way you see them and make sure it's not a man pretending to be a girl and so forth. Have her be in a very well let area and check her out. If she cannnot do that, it means she is not pretty or something else. Hard pass and move on.
you will see few are upset I spent $$$ to find a woman with those requirements.Most people are not upset at what you paid. They are trying to correct you thinking you get something better than others because you paid more. Like many of us, you are paying the tuition in your learning process.
You think Loutron is good because you paid more. It costed much less before, and with less upsell. You can read from the posts that experienced guys don't session there even if they go with a friend. There was a report that an experienced member who went with a friend and took the number of a girl, then dated her outside with better service. These should tell you something. These places were better before. They became worse because new visitors thinking they are good deal.
I have a few from la celestina that are from Bello. It basically is the same girls that you can get elsewhere. I don't see any perfect girls like 9 and 10 on their roster. Think about it, you want top in look, good in bed, speaking English. Any combination of two will be difficult to obtain.
It costs very little in food to have girls coming dancing topless, entertaining when eating at home. It's better than going out. I had an English speaking girl with me a few times the past few days. That is the reason my Spanish is bad
This is a very inefficient market for both sides. That is what makes it more difficult for some. Many pretty ones from the same social class are all starting low before they become popular and raise their rates, often with reduced service. I was talking to one who kept bugging me, probably sending me more than 50 messages a day. I asked her do you know where to find customers? She said no. She does not know she can just walk to Lleras and would be scooped up quickly. So all she left was me. LOL. That is one reason people don't share because it would ruin it. Think about this for a moment.
I picked the girls that give me the best experience. Prettier will get priority but it can only go so far. The prettiest girl that I know was upset with me not seeing her. She offers the same service but just not as much fun and needs more pampering so she fell off my list. She knows very few gringos so I am in a better position. Once she is known, she probably will forget me. LOL.
It is actually very easy to tell. Look at the clothing and accessories for one. Maybe I better take that back since there are guys on this site that swear they can not even tell the difference between a woman and a dude dressed up as a woman.It's much easier without makeup. Most younger ones are not matured yet.
Mr Enternational
06-16-24, 22:03
Most of the girls are using filters and I have been duped numerous times. The fatties and darkies are altering their images to look white and thin.Just goes to show that the years and players change, but the game never changes. 2024 and horny mfs are still falling for this BS. You figure the girls would no longer do it because guys no longer fall for it, but nope. This will go on forever.
I'm not going to pretend to know what the original poster meant. I think we both know underage girls have been under a curfew in Parque Lleras and the surrounding area for some time.
Do you mean the underage girls are allowed inside the park, and there was no ID check at the gate?
Excellent, excellent advice, it really should be rule #1 for first time dates with girls sourced online. It was great advice before filters and AI started showing up on social media. To source dates no without video calls is a form of Russian Roulette.One could just ask them to send you a regular photo of herself right now, not one that she used in her profile. That would stump 99% of all chicks that are engaged in bait and switch.
The problem lately is girls are so adept with filters that they can apply them in seconds. I've been successful if I insist on receiving an unfiltered photo but it's just faster and easier to do the video call.
One could just ask them to send you a regular photo of herself right now, not one that she used in her profile. That would stump 99% of all chicks that are engaged in bait and switch.
Learning a new language when you are older is very hard; I have zero interest in learning a language other than knowing 50-100 words + Google Translate. I'm 64 and learning my fourth foreign language--Portuguese for a trip to Brazil later this year--and my experience in learning languages is that it is challenging but the hard work in learning a language always pays off. I'm a fairly proficient Spanish speaker and I spent two weeks in Colombia in 2022, only speaking Spanish. I met a 27 year old woman in Medellin I had been practicing Spanish with online and got to spend time with her over two days. That would not have been possible if I didn't know the language. It really does open up a new world.
Plus, learning Spanish opens up nearly all of the Americas, from Mexico on south, which would give you more possibilities. Put in the time to really learn it. It's worth it.
Aristhotle
06-17-24, 04:10
For the true vets of the fb game of mde you should definitely know who this is.
Please don't ever make fun of guys overpaying because if we pay more for pussy it's just for pussy.
But some guy just bought her a BMW suv. LOL. I know at least 6-7 guys who have raw dogged and CIM her including myself and the friends I passed her around too for 200-250 mil.Just scrolling around planning my trips and ran into this. My god. You bums should NOT be buying girls stuff like this ever! Doesn't matter if she is your prostitute or your real legit girlfriend. Maybe if she is your wife and is loyal and gave you kids after a good 10+ years and still maintains a top notch bod while making sure you're happy. Ok I could consider it.
Funny thing is that most Colombian beauty queens (even working girls) fall in love with broke losers in Colombia who aren't worth a cent and who aren't even handsome. And then we have these foreigners buying hoes this. WTF. Is this why I am reading girls asking for near a million Colombian Pesos? And I'm not one of those guys who goes for the cheap options and street walkers (that's another WTF). But I damn sure am not buying a hoe presents. Yes, some of us do higher end better looking girls in higher end clubs and will pay more than some of you do for street walkers. But not this crazy giving them a million pesos or buying them a car shit. WOW. Like. Wow.
Oh and any word where the hot upper end LEGIT bi girls for pre threesome lesbianism are at, let us know. Someone here said Fase2. Will try. Anywhere else? Let me know. LOL.
Funny thing is ..They are on a higher level. I think you understand the logic.
And then we have these foreigners buying hoes this. WTF. Is this why I am reading girls asking for near a million Colombian Pesos? And I'm not one of those guys who goes for the cheap options and street walkers (that's another WTF). Yes, some of us do higher end better looking girls in higher end clubs and will pay more than some of you do for street walkers. But not this crazy giving them a million pesos or buying them a car shit. WOW. Like. Wow..So what your saying is thar your own overpaying is fine but someone else's? Thats too much. Maybe you should set down the societal rules then we can all follow your gospel. Hehe.
I was just thinking about my own legacy recently and updating my will. I don't have any dependents so giving it to WGs seems as good as any other cause, outside of animal rights causes.
Just goes to show that the years and players change, but the game never changes. 2024 and horny mfs are still falling for this BS. You figure the girls would no longer do it because guys no longer fall for it, but nope. This will go on forever.God, I'd love to see that chica dating Ed on 90 Day Fiance' LOL.
Exoticspirit
06-17-24, 17:44
I'm 64 and learning my fourth foreign language--Portuguese for a trip to Brazil later this year--and my experience in learning languages is that it is challenging but the hard work in learning a language always pays off. I'm a fairly proficient Spanish speaker and I spent two weeks in Colombia in 2022, only speaking Spanish. I met a 27 year old woman in Medellin I had been practicing Spanish with online and got to spend time with her over two days. That would not have been possible if I didn't know the language. It really does open up a new world.
Plus, learning Spanish opens up nearly all of the Americas, from Mexico on south, which would give you more possibilities. Put in the time to really learn it. It's worth it.I totally agree with learning languages. Even learning to get a very basic level of social conversation is helpful as I see how folks there really appreciate you trying and the overall interactions with them will be so much more enriching, not only with the girls but even chats with Uber drivers during rides, ordering food, etc. On another note just for ourselves, apparently learning new languages when we are older can help prevent Alzheimers and other mental functions. This makes sense because if we don't use it and in this case, our minds to learn new skills, we start to crumble mentally.
So we have established that you must have a Claro (or whatever Company simcard) and a Colombian phone number. Another thing that is not readily apparent is the new US passports are alpha-numeric & the Claro website will not accept the alpha part of the US passport number. This leads to more of a waste of time. Bottom line is and I will say it again, this is not "an easy process" by any stretch of the imagination. Next visit, I will go to a Claro store and see if they can register my phone! Aggravating AF!
El Mechanico.Maybe for you it isn't simple, maybe everyone isn't as tech-savy (no disrespect) but for me it was pretty simple.
Since I've been coming to Colombia I've had different phones an LG V20, Huawei P30, and a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's. All 3 of them I registered the IMEI number myself using both Claro and Tigo. In more recent years with the last 2 phones it was Tigo I used. The process can now be done inside the app but I remember back in 2018 doing it by SMS text message.
If it such a problem for you to register I would just go down to the Claro store and have a customer service person do it for you.
A suggestion though, and this seems like common sense to me, is that if the Claro website doesn't accept your alphanumeric passport number why don't you just type in your numeric passport number from your old previous passport and see if that works?
Gabacho.
MaddTraveler
06-18-24, 19:37
I'm 64 and learning my fourth foreign language--Portuguese for a trip to Brazil later this year--and my experience in learning languages is that it is challenging but the hard work in learning a language always pays off. I'm a fairly proficient Spanish speaker and I spent two weeks in Colombia in 2022, only speaking Spanish. I met a 27 year old woman in Medellin I had been practicing Spanish with online and got to spend time with her over two days. That would not have been possible if I didn't know the language. It really does open up a new world.
Plus, learning Spanish opens up nearly all of the Americas, from Mexico on south, which would give you more possibilities. Put in the time to really learn it. It's worth it.Truly admire your common sense there.
Been in Brazil for the past 3 Months and I struggled like hell due to fact I don't speak Porto. I learned some basics and able to say Hello, and few words to some garotas here and there in clubs, but not anywhere close to the damages I normally do in spanish speaking countries like Col. I speak Spn near fluently and can't wait to make it back to Medellin in few days LOL. Like I'm forced to date and go out with the 1% that speak basic English and can't enjoy going out with the majority, and bro that shit sucks being in Br which is pussy heaven. Aint no girl going to spend a whole day or weekend with you using Google translate. Brothels are fine, but I like to mix it up getting semi pros or nonpros from Tinder and Seeking for overnights or few days and you must be able to communicate. The few I managed to meet that speak Eng have experience and have dated many foreigners which we all hate. We want them fresh from the hood, low mileage and be the first or second gringo to break in.
Not going to make this mistake again. If I'm going to any new country w a new language I'm going to make some efforts to learn up to a conversation level. I couldn't agree more.
We want them fresh from the hood, low mileage and be the first or second gringo to break in.
Do we, now? I prefer Hi mileage that will break me in.
MaddTraveler
06-19-24, 05:16
Do we, now? I prefer Hi mileage that will break me in.Yeah high mileage experienced milfs can be a turn on, but only as an occasional fetish. And I know your joking obviously. Most of them can't breed anymore anyway for the young men who may still want a fam one day, that itself disqualifies them.
Women body count matters more then men's, it's science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2CgIBfDPC4
I am surprised you have to rely on a translation app in Brazil if you have working knowledge of Spanish, especially after three months of immersion. Aside from that your experience if further proof that knowledge of the local language is very helpful but not do or die. None of us are willingly going to stay in a place where we are involuntarily celibate so it stands to reason you managed to wet your wick well enough.
Truly admire your common sense there.
Been in Brazil for the past 3 Months and I struggled like hell due to fact I don't speak Porto. I learned some basics and able to say Hello, and few words to some garotas here and there in clubs, but not anywhere close to the damages I normally do in spanish speaking countries like Col. I speak Spn near fluently and can't wait to make it back to Medellin in few days LOL. Like I'm forced to date and go out with the 1% that speak basic English and can't enjoy going out with the majority, and bro that shit sucks being in Br which is pussy heaven. Aint no girl going to spend a whole day or weekend with you using Google translate. Brothels are fine, but I like to mix it up getting semi pros or nonpros from Tinder and Seeking for overnights or few days and you must be able to communicate. The few I managed to meet that speak Eng have experience and have dated many foreigners which we all hate. We want them fresh from the hood, low mileage and be the first or second gringo to break in.
Not going to make this mistake again. If I'm going to any new country w a new language I'm going to make some efforts to learn up to a conversation level. I couldn't agree more.
Yeah high mileage experienced milfs can be a turn on, but only as an occasional fetish. And I know your joking obviously. Most of them can't breed anymore
I can't believe you linked an andrew tate video, the guru of manhood, hehe.
Actually I wasnt joking. Most of my life I have had sexy young things as GFs. Girls that obsess about their looks tend to be false in my experience. I have a very cute young GF now. Why should I replicate that thru paid sex?
And I don't think experience maps with MILF. Most of my best sex encounters were with young and highly experienced.
Am not saying looks play no part for me, but they are a secondary consideration.
Women body count matters more then men's, it's science.]Q for you MT. If you had the choice of paying for an average girl that gives crazy sex, or an absolute stunner that gives average sex, which you choose?
MaddTraveler
06-19-24, 17:23
I can't believe you linked an andrew tate video, the guru of manhood, hehe.
Actually I wasnt joking. Most of my life I have had sexy young things as GFs. Girls that obsess about their looks tend to be false in my experience. I have a very cute young GF now. Why should I replicate that thru paid sex?
And I don't think experience maps with MILF. Most of my best sex encounters were with young and highly experienced.
Am not saying looks play no part for me, but they are a secondary consideration.Sorry bro wasn't trying to start a debate or you misunderstood me.
I only said the obvious as to why most men prefer a less experience girl. Not sure how that relates to your follow up questions which are new topics. Certain statements I make, I remove my own personal experience from it and look at things more on a global and factual aspect. Now here you are speaking about your own experiences of girls obsessing with looks, highly experienced, etc which are all not the points I made. Your experiences do not translate to hard facts or majority. Maybe you chose wrong, maybe you chose girls based on superficial looks instead of natural and you skipped the humble, submissive, feminine and educated ones. But in order to detect those, one must also educate himself, and kinna hard to do when the dick is doing the thinking.
Sometimes it's best to keep a topic simple, with logic and facts. Not only about yourself and how you feel.
That said, what I mentioned remains true, and I can speak for all or most men LOL.
1 - Normal girl (nonpro GF) or low mileage semi-pro vs high mileage ho. No debates needed, I hope. I say most men will go for the normal girl or semi pro.
2 - If you want to have a child, most older milfs (ultimate high miles) are done in that area, so you must date a younger girl (hopefully a nonpro for that).
3 - The higher the body count a woman has, regardless of age, affects her mental wellbeing. Many well documents series from experts on this.
4 - Many mongers here still have side or real relationships, I'm sure those girls aint no ho.
5 - Family is everything. When your very old, no one wants to be alone and depressed, so relationships are more valuable than some mongers faking on here like they want to be players forever.
6 - Again, you want to settle and wake up everyday with a ho who fuckd 10-20 guys a day in her youth and still have cum dripping down her mouth, go ahead. But most men prefer to settle w a girl that's a bit cleaner. In this sense there's no right or wrong answer, it's a preference and no extra debates needed.
If you care only about wild sex and only want very experienced hos who swallow on first dates, then that's you. For Mongering obviously that's what we want, but that would scare the shit out of me if I get that from someone I'm trying to have a relationship with. We must always differentiate these two goals.
For nonpro women I have real dates with, I'm always hoping we don't fuck on the first night. Only cause I won't respect her enough to ever make her my real GF or trust her. Fuck no. I want a traditional woman w integrity and respects herself and make me wait till 2nd or 3rd date.
Further, when a fresh girl does not know what to do in bed I get just as exited, I don't need an instant deep throat expert as I can train her; also the pussy's tighter and smells better. You treat a normal girl right and that brings loyalty, a rare thing these days and to real men it's priceless. This is the real prize fellas, this is what most men work hard for; been that way for centuries. Knowing everyday you have a woman who commits solely to you. Of course many mongers disagree on this since most don't believe in the foundation of marriage or relationships and that's OK. Some already had that, some can't due to looks and age, and some have diff views and preferences. But it's the custom of billions and the majority, since the beginning of time.
Regardless of what you do, I always argue here to treat women w respect, hos or not. Just be a gentleman!!
I am surprised you have to rely on a translation app in Brazil if you have working knowledge of Spanish, especially after three months of immersion. Aside from that your experience if further proof that knowledge of the local language is very helpful but not do or die. None of us are willingly going to stay in a place where we are involuntarily celibate so it stands to reason you managed to wet your wick well enough.Portuguese is difficult. I speak Spanish very well and despite spending lots of time in Brasil over the years, I still have no where near proficient in Portuguese. That doesn't stop me from having a great time.
I am surprised you have to rely on a translation app in Brazil if you have working knowledge of Spanish, especially after three months of immersion. Aside from that your experience if further proof that knowledge of the local language is very helpful but not do or die. None of us are willingly going to stay in a place where we are involuntarily celibate so it stands to reason you managed to wet your wick well enough.When I began traveling to Brazil many moons ago, I spoke very good if not excellent spanish. It still took quite a bit of dedication and practice to get to my level now in portuguese, which is very good.
I know native spaniish speakers, who after years, still struggle with portuguese.
Getting to fluency in spanish was a b..ch because it was my first language to learn after english, learning and becoming proficient in portuguese has been fun tho.
My mind was already trained and they are very similar in structure.
MaddTraveler
06-19-24, 19:14
Q for you MT. If you had the choice of paying for an average girl that gives crazy sex, or an absolute stunner that gives average sex, which you choose?I'll take Both!
It's why I'm in this hobby, for varieties.
Since I'm around hos 24/7 and not on a vacation I mainly deal with average normal girls, 7+ to maintain standard for daily wild sport fucking as extra cardio.
Then 4-5 times a month or weekly I'll grab a real stunner, 9+.
And gladly spend $200 which is 10 x the average $20 cpf I usually spend.
I always expect lower performance from stunners. Sometimes I get lucky with great perf and even BBFS but usually everything covered and lazy average sex. But, my dick stays extra hard and recovers imm w 9+ and no regrets. All men should experience those.
Dcrist0527
06-19-24, 20:06
When I began traveling to Brazil many moons ago, I spoke very good if not excellent spanish. It still took quite a bit of dedication and practice to get to my level now in portuguese, which is very good.
I know native spaniish speakers, who after years, still struggle with portuguese.
Getting to fluency in spanish was a b..ch because it was my first language to learn after english, learning and becoming proficient in portuguese has been fun tho.
My mind was already trained and they are very similar in structure.May I ask how you learned Brazilian Portugese? I'm not fluent in Spanish. Hell, I'm not sure I'm fluent in English. LOL But I can carry on a decent conversation in imperfect Spanish. I did put in some effort to learn Portugese. But I struggled. I believe maybe if I was more fluent in Spanish it might have been easier.
I'm thinking about returning to Brazil next year. But the language was a challenge. I got by on my last trip but to the OP's point, speaking the language greatly improves the experience.
I know native spaniish speakers, who after years, still struggle with portuguese.
So do I. While the structure is certainly similar, the sounds are very different.
Sorry bro wasn't trying to start a debate or you misunderstood me.
We can exchange views here without bad feeling, MT. Don't worry about that. I know some struggle to do it, but I try not to be among them myself.
I think we hit crosswires here. Seems you are mixing P4 P and regular relationships and talking about them interchangeably. Whereas I am talking here about P4 P only, which is what most guys here do. I hold a different opinion if I were looking for a LT GF, but then I wouldn't be going to a casa or strip club and looking for a sexy girl to make her my LT GF anyway.
I would love to read some of the studies you refer to. You say your view is the more common; that might be. But you also said it's what 'we all want', which is where I stepped in to confirm there are different views on this.
BTW your point 6 and onwards. It appears you have a psychological sexual hang up here. I never worry about what a girl did in her past sexual relations. For me it's just a natural desire and action that people do together. I fucked girls in the arse so I fully expect there are girls out there that have been fucked in the arse by others. It's just what we do, like kissing, holding hands, sucking balls, and swallowing cum. No difference. You say we should always respect women, but then you show you don't respect sexually experienced women. You think they are lesser in some regard. This illustrates it well: 'Normal girl (nonpro GF) or low mileage semi-pro vs high mileage ho. No debates needed, I hope. I say most men will go for the normal girl or semi pro. ' . I really don't see why you think its relevant in a LT GF context. And I strongly disagree with it in the P4 P context. Perhaps that's the opression that religion has brought upon people thru society and culture.
I am not debating you. Simply expressing a different POV.
MaddTraveler
06-20-24, 04:54
I am surprised you have to rely on a translation app in Brazil if you have working knowledge of Spanish, especially after three months of immersion. Aside from that your experience if further proof that knowledge of the local language is very helpful but not do or die. None of us are willingly going to stay in a place where we are involuntarily celibate so it stands to reason you managed to wet your wick well enough.Yeah man. Most places I walk in I do manage to get by. Many of them understand spanish including in stores, restaurants, etc. I'm mostly referring to wanting to spend a entire day or weekend with one with zero Eng as I normally do in Colombia. I was hanging out today in a lounge in Centro and a wg was on me dancing and we chatted a bit, started with basic porto then I mixed it w some Spanish and didn't have to pull Gtranslate at all. So I do get by thanks to Spanish for brief or club encounters. But it is my fault, I will dedicate time to learn this shit and stay even longer next time. It's worth it since women here are more friendly and very approachable, quick smiles and quickly invite to you converse. OMG BR is heaven.
FFlintstone69
06-20-24, 04:59
You dodged some bullets. A 300 K loss and bad headaches are lottery first prizes for what you got into.Read his TR in Lima. He thinks being stupid and risking his life is funny.
FFlintstone69
06-20-24, 05:21
I have to agree with you, but with a caveat. What you are saying works with women that are not hookers. Never heard a woman that was not a hooker list the things she is looking for as he says is what will make a hooker do a good job. It is always a bunch of abstract stuff, nothing about being in shape or smelling good. Maybe what he says are things that hookers are looking for in tricks? It seems asinine though because you are the customer trying to impress someone you are paying. He says pay up. Then after that you have to impress her with how you look and a good time. Huh? If my plumber came over here, I would not have to give him over and above the usual amount for plumbers, have an ice cold beer waiting for him, neatly lay out all his tools, and make sure he has a soft cushion to kneel on, all in order to expect him to do a good job.
Then you have to figure these chicks are doing this shit day in and day out. After a while, if you have seen one guy in shape, and one guy smelling good, and one guy showing you a good time, then you have seen them all. You are showing her nothing new. Like the guy that was talking about getting an expensive hotel room so the hookers could be comfortable. Mf she has probably already been there so many times that her and the staff call each other by name. You are in fact casting your pearls among swine. Now for a chick that is not a hooker amd does not go out with a bunch of men, this type of treatment will get you somewhere. But with tricks doing this shit day in and day out for a hooker in addition to paying her, it has surely become mundane and is bringing nothing special out of her the way he wants to think it is."it has surely become mundane and is bringing nothing special out of her the way he wants to think it is".
It certainly makes her SIMP radar go ballistic.
So do I. While the structure is certainly similar, the sounds are very different.I'm fluent in Spanish and I spent three months in Portugal and felt pretty comfortable, had listened to some tapes for a couple of months before that, felt like I was doing well. Then I went to Brazil. What the actual fuck. Sounded like a cross between French and Spanish spoken by somebody with a cleft palate. OTOH I could still read it okay. Felt like an eejit for assuming it would sound anything like Portugal. I should have listened to some Brazilian tapes or radio the last month in Portugal, if I had it to do over again.
I am taking a friend to Aruba. I am travelling with her, has anyone had problems getting in? She is 40 so not too young.
Mr Enternational
06-21-24, 20:04
May I ask how you learned Brazilian Portugese? I did put in some effort to learn Portugese. But I struggled. I believe maybe if I was more fluent in Spanish it might have been easier.
I was a French teacher. Portuguese is my third language and I learned Spanish after that. To me, none of them are any easier or harder than another. I recommend getting Pimsleur language program, buying a first year text book, large English Portuguese dictionary, and 501 Portuguese verbs from Amazon. Then buy a bunch of index cards. The 501 will teach you how to conjugate the verbs. The text book categorizes things to make it easier to learn. For instance things in a bathroom or parts of a car. Then with the Pimsleur you learn conversation and pronunciation. Make sure you get the Brazilian Portuguese program and not the Portugal one. I have been speaking Portuguese for over 20 years and still don't know what the hell they are saying in Portugal!
QualitySmut
06-21-24, 23:01
It was my first time so I'll post about my experience and strategy.
First off I got good advice to start at Plaza Botero. It was good advice. You will know you are there because you will see a bunch of bronze statue of fat people. Around the Plaza you will see a fat roman soldier statue. It's across from the museum of antiqua or something. Walk in that direction. You will see shops, hotels and chicas. There are also some behind the stsute I just mentioned. Seems like going rate is 50 k pesos. 10 for the room.
Not many stunners. Like 2 or 3. But you can definitely find something young and reasonably attractive to pork for 15 bucks. I was personally looking for twerking ass job type situation so they'll happily agree to try for the price or two Atlanta lap dances I got a chica in a room naked dancing on me. I bring a little oil and it's a good time. And easy enough to get a few chicas if you want. So I don't actually have extra info like bbjs cause I just got the dances. I was here for 3 months missing the Atlanta vibes so I was making some of my own LOL. One experience went well, the other the girls was less cooperative but nothing dangerous just annoying. I'm on my way there now to give it a other shit and buy souvenirs. Honestly I need more practice with streetwalkers. I'm still very nervous approaching a woman on the street about the hobby. I welcome any tips. My Spanish is improving but still not great.
It was my first time so I'll post about my experience and strategy.
First off I got good advice to start at Plaza Botero. I'm still very nervous approaching a woman on the street about the hobby. I welcome any tips. Girls always seem to respond well to confidence. So try to be confident, relaxed and happy. If you feel nervous on the street, try the road behind the church. There are a ton of bars down there. You can get a drink and sit at the bar. Most have girls working in the bars, so it is easy to strike up a convo there and you don't have to worry about people approaching you.
Good luck.
Not many stunners. Like 2 or 3. But you can definitely find something young and reasonably attractive to pork for 15 bucks. When you add the cost of airfare, hotel room, restaurant meals, hours spent sitting at an airport and delayed flights, hassles from immigration and mig online, it no longer is only $15; it makes sense to stay at home and look at porno. LOL.
AmorPorFavor
06-23-24, 21:53
Over the past few months, more drugging incidents happening in Laureles, maybe trying to avoid all the attention in Poblado.
Earlier today, a 23 year old man was reported to be wandering through the streets drugged and disoriented in the Laureles neighborhood, rushed to hospital after police were notified.
The young man recalls partying with 2 women in his apartment, valuables reported stolen.
The local authorities report two similar incidents occurred with foreigners being victimized in the last 24 hours. https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/estadounidense-medellin-fue-drogado-tras-departir-con-mujeres-laureles-PP3733589A?utm_campaign=prensapaisa&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook-alianza&utm_content&utm_term&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2BxPi9F78ktcMQoqy32tF4p6vyshiFNGZOc-XOMqOGFhI6yHytgmplwv8_aem_V3qkQEGmff79YqZ_OdeM-g.
TheDerilious
06-24-24, 03:22
Over the past few months, more drugging incidents happening in Laureles, maybe trying to avoid all the attention in Poblado.
Earlier today, a 23 year old man was reported to be wandering through the streets drugged and disoriented in the Laureles neighborhood, rushed to hospital after police were notified.
The young man recalls partying with 2 women in his apartment, valuables reported stolen.I will note here, once again, that a common denominator in these situations is the "2 women. " It's important for all mongers to be aware of the fact that a third individual always puts you at a disadvantage; even if you are vigilant, it can be hard to track two people. The biggest thing to always keep track of to avoid these situations is where your drink is. Act like any woman does in the clubs nowadays; never leave the drink unattended, don't accept a drink from the ladies that you didn't see made, and never feel pressured to drink if you're unsure. You guys should have enough money to buy some extra bottles of water, cans of soda / beer, or vino that you can throw away a drink you have lost track of. It's a tiny price to pay to be smart.
Being honest, the threesome game with strangers is generally a one in a million situation anyway. From my experience, you never get a real PSE, lesbian threesome. You get some weak tag-team without any interaction between the girls where they try to make you bust quickly by switching quickly. It can be fun to get a nice view of a double BJ, but most of the time you just get one girl working you over while the other girl shoves her tits in your face. As many others have recommended, you should partake when you have vetted one girl and ask her to recommend a partner. I've had much better success here with some real fun experiences, though I know this not possible for the weekend warrior. But, in that case, best to be safe and ask for two girls at a casa.
For western bros who really want a good threesome without the legwork, I actually do recommend threesomes with the indy escorts in Toronto / Montreal. The price tag is higher (it's still reasonable compared to the highest class escorts) but I've had a lot of good hits over the years with memorable threesomes, so it's something I find myself splurging on repeatedly when the desire comes up.
Exoticspirit
06-24-24, 03:26
I'm still very nervous approaching a woman on the street about the hobby. I welcome any tips. My Spanish is improving but still not great.Don't worry about being nervous since we all have to start somewhere. In your case, I would stick to places where it's easier because in street situations like Centro, even Parque Lleras and bars like the one at Hotel M I went to, the norm is for us guys to approach the women. Otherwise in some places, they can be considered harassing customers if they get too aggressive and pushy. While it's nice to get attention from women, I personally don't really like it when some girl I'm not attracted to keeps on me for drinks and / or to pull her back to my room.
So for the nervous dudes, you want to be in a situation where you can be hand held through the process. So anyplace whether in Medellin or elsewhere in the world, it might be a place where there is a mamasan / papasan / manager who could welcome you, introduce you to their pricing structure and then show you a selection of girls. Then you just pick one. This way you don't have to feel nervous about making first moves all the time.
Then once you build confidence, you can start to move up into other venues where it's expected for the guys to make the first moves.
Be carefully drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.
Dcrist0527
06-24-24, 15:32
1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.I appreciate you sharing that story. It's a great reminder about complacency, which I am often guilty of. In a decade of international trips, I've never had any very serious issues. I was pickpocketed by two girls in the zona of Tijuana. And I think a bar girl stole $40 from my wallet after a session. The common theme in both cases? I was very drunk. I don't learn my lesson though. LOL I party hard with the chicas. It's an important part of the experience for me. I'm a boring guy at home and I let loose when on vacation. I guess it is a risk I just accept. But your story also helps ground me and others on those risks. Thanks for sharing.
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. You should definitely get to know at least one, if not both of the participants in a threesome before doing it and consider going to a motel. I've yet to have a tag team style objectively bad experience. But I'm careful. I've wanted to have a full PSE threesome for a while with anal, girls dping each other with me and a strapon, double BJ with rimming and of course lesbian components. That was an item on my bucket list that I only recently checked off. But I literally knew and had been having sex with both girls for over a year each time I've come here. I knew they were both up for anything. Even then the threesome didn't go perfectly. I bought a strapon combo on rappi that was just low quality and didn't work. But the girls were great. One of them is a squirter and took to the situation better than I'd hoped even. I also had a pretty good one the other night where ID gone out with a girl 3 times and got to know her pretty well. She said she liked threesome and recommended a friend, so we set one up the other night at a motep and it went pretty well. I even liked her friend a little better than her (wilder sexual energy).
Manizales911
06-24-24, 16:02
Be carefully drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.Lesson 4 NEVER EVER let a chica use your phone, PERIOD.
Mr Enternational
06-24-24, 17:25
Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy).Your girl or a hooker? Not many people would tell their girl they are on the way to see another chick. But a hooker, who gives a rat's ass. If that was the case then all these chicks would not be referring or bringing their friends along. Somebody that I am paying can not play a jealous card. That sounds weird.
Be careful drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. You should definitely get to know at least one, if not both of the participants in a threesome before doing it and consider going to a motel. I've yet to have a tag team style objectively bad experience. But I'm careful. I've wanted to have a full PSE threesome for a while with anal, girls dping each other with me and a strapon, double BJ with rimming and of course lesbian components. That was an item on my bucket list that I only recently checked off. But I literally knew and had been having sex with both girls for over a year each time I've come here. I knew they were both up for anything. Even then the threesome didn't go perfectly. I bought a strapon combo on rappi that was just low quality and didn't work. But the girls were great. One of them is a squirter and took to the situation better than I'd hoped even. I also had a pretty good one the other night where ID gone out with a girl 3 times and got to know her pretty well. She said she liked threesome and recommended a friend, so we set one up the other night at a motep and it went pretty well. I even liked her friend a little better than her (wilder sexual energy).I just don't get it. You are drinking with some girl you "know" how well? Why on earth are you drinking? If she wants to drink, great, let her. How many times are we going to read that another "gringo" got drugged and maybe killed after drinking with some girl he knew for about 5 minutes?
I know, you're careful. But do you have any idea how little time it takes for her to spike your drink? Or maybe as she finishes her drink she spikes her empty glass and when you are done she just switches glasses with you as you refill them.
I tell people who are visiting that if you "have to" drink do it after you finish your session. There is a gringo bar at the St. Peter in Laureles or several others in Poblado. Just don't drink with girls here unless you know them, have been to their house or their family home. It borders on sheer lunacy.
Now your advice on Trios is well done. I had my first "trio" here on my first visit 7 years ago. It was a disaster. I didn't know either girl and it was supidity. Since then, I have done as you suggested. I have had a few excellent trios. I knew one girl well (3 or more sessions together) and she recommended a "friend" I made it a requirement to session with the friend first, to make sure I would enjoy her company as well. Even so, you want to be very alert because one girl is roaming while you are in flagrante delicto with the other.
AmorPorFavor
06-24-24, 23:31
Here is what I do when a chica comes over to my airbnb (always with security). I ask if they want a drink and 90% of the time its a yes. So I make one drink and say this is for us to share and then make sure she is drinking from it before I start having some. I have already been kissing her so no issue with sharing. We both drink from the same glass for the evening and I don't worry too much about it. I also don't get shit faced.
Don't worry about being nervous since we all have to start somewhere. In your case, I would stick to places where it's easier because in street situations like Centro, even Parque Lleras and bars like the one at Hotel M I went to, the norm is for us guys to approach the women. Otherwise in some places, they can be considered harassing customers if they get too aggressive and pushy. While it's nice to get attention from women, I personally don't really like it when some girl I'm not attracted to keeps on me for drinks and / or to pull her back to my room.
So for the nervous dudes, you want to be in a situation where you can be hand held through the process. So anyplace whether in Medellin or elsewhere in the world, it might be a place where there is a mamasan / papasan / manager who could welcome you, introduce you to their pricing structure and then show you a selection of girls. Then you just pick one. This way you don't have to feel nervous about making first moves all the time.
Then once you build confidence, you can start to move up into other venues where it's expected for the guys to make the first moves.You were there once for three days and are now an expert, giving advice to others?
Mr Enternational
06-25-24, 13:27
I just don't get it. You are drinking with some girl you "know" how well? Why on earth are you drinking?I said the same thing yesterday but it did not get posted. Someone said that all these druggings have 2 women in common. No they don't. They have drinking in common.
Even another brother said he was with one girl he thought he knew well and left his drink alone for one minute while he went out on the balcony to check on the steaks. The lone girl got him.
I do not understand why people insist they they have to drink something when it comes to fucking a chick. If she is coming to fuck, then get to fucking. Find someone else to be your drinking buddy, whether it is soda, alcohol, or whatever. Shit I tell chicks they have to work up a thirst first anyway before they get a drink from me.
Not a hooker. She's a girl I met and asked out to lunch. At this point I spend as much or more time looking for nonpros as pros. As you said prepagos don't care about that stuff. Hell I've got a couple amigas with derechas that know about other girls I see and don't get pissed.
Your girl or a hooker? Not many people would tell their girl they are on the way to see another chick. But a hooker, who gives a rat's ass. If that was the case then all these chicks would not be referring or bringing their friends along. Somebody that I am paying can not play a jealous card. That sounds weird.
amigas with derechasIs that the same as "friends with benefits"? I think all non-incarcerated people have rights. Even those incarcerated have some rights.
Is that the same as "friends with benefits"? I think all non-incarcerated people have rights. Even those incarcerated have some rights.Amigos con derechos. Or Amigas con derechos. Derecho is a noun meaning "rights" as in human rights, and also means straight (as in straight ahead). So it is a masculine noun and doesn't change when used in either male or female context (as it would if it were an adjective). Derecha is used in the sense of right and left. A la derecha for "on the right".
https://www.elpais.com.co/judicial/encuentran-sin-vida-al-actor-alex-araya-en-un-apartamento-de-medellin-lo-habrian-drogado-y-robado-2521.html
When you don't operate out of a safe house, at least take all precautions you can take.
Lucky Nuts
06-26-24, 04:29
Amigos con derechos. Or Amigas con derechos. Derecho is a noun meaning "rights" as in human rights, and also means straight (as in straight ahead). So it is a masculine noun and doesn't change when used in either male or female context (as it would if it were an adjective). Derecha is used in the sense of right and left. A la derecha for "on the right".Like FunLuvr I also didn't understand the meaning of "friends with rights". I googled in Spanish and it means (in English) an open relationship. So yes as he thought "friends with benefits". I guess when you get into a monogamous relationship in latin america you lose your "rights". They are ahead of us with this lingo jaja and maybe explains why so many of us have never been married.
GeorgeCarta22
06-26-24, 07:38
So I was cursing this rain10 to 12 am gustos was empty. 5 Uggos and maybe like 13 dudes. Left for glow and that was so much better.
My buddy got quoted 700 k toda la niche. Talent was low or mediocre and the rain was not stopping so no new talent. Went to gusto at 1 am to see if it was better. Wow gusto is so empty so I hopped back to glow. Had a chick for back up in case everything failed BUT!
Last time I was here I got a contact from gusto. Who quoted me insane prices. Cause you know gusto.
Well I reached out to her and she agreed to 300 k hour and all night 700 k if we had good chemistry. Always the phrasing I use.
Anyway guys this is huge.
Couple rules here are.
Clubs are just for what's app contacts.
Use mid week and rain to your advantage. I would write more but waiting for her now.
I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros. It's something I've known intellectually for a while based off the drugging cases. But I think I have an unconcious bias for trusting pros less easily and nonpros more easily. Anyway, the point is for others to hopefully learn from my experience. The smartest move is to not drink with girls. It's also smartest to not trust anyone ever or at least for a long time. But the name of the game with this hobby is risk management and choosing the level of risk you are comfortable with. After all, if you want to be 100% safe and have a completely safe sex life, stay in your house in your home country and mastrubate with a helmet on in case you fall.
I meant friends with benefits when using amigos con derechos. As you pointed out I made a grammatical mistake. My Spanish is very good but by no means perfect.
TheDerilious
06-26-24, 13:55
I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros.Honestly, you just did something monumentally stupid and that's it. It's literally dating 101 to not tell girls you're seeing that you there are other girls in the mix. If the girl is a non-pro, treat it like you would if you were dating a normie back home, which is to keep everything separate until you're ready to commit to one girl or if you're good with the girl seeing other dudes on the side. Truthfully, it's disrespectful to your date to go see another chick a few hours later, so keep it to yourself. Most girls, everywhere on Earth, are not going to feel good about going on a date with a guy that is going to bang another chick later that night.
For any guy that is trying to date and go after non-pros in Colombia, don't expect the girls to accept you walking around as a playboy, hitting on every girl, being unfaithful, etc. Just because you open up your wallet from time to time. Stick with the pros; get a stable of girls who know what's going on, understand the pfp arrangement, and are less likely to catch serious feelings. As is the case with women all across the world, once they catch those feelings, that relationship has changed irreparably.
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