Chiang Mai

[Arthur Tick]

I've been living in Santitam for a while, it's a nice area not far from everything. One day, I walk around and see this new place. It's called Daisuki or something.

The logo looked a bit different from the usual boring Thai massage pictures with a lady laying down and massage fingers on her back that you see everywhere in Chiang Mai, they all copy that from the internet. So I decide to go in.

A beautiful receptionist greets me in perfect English. I ask her if the place is for massage, stupid question of course, that was already written on the outside.

She says yes, hands me the menu. This is not the usual menu I see everywhere, my intuition was right, this is a different place.

This is our best-seller the girl says: Gogo-nutz massage.

What the hack is that? I ask. She turns the page and there is an explanation. The Gogo-nutz massage makes most men go nuts.

I laugh, well give me that, I say. Did you think of that yourself? She smiles.

A few girls show up, I can choose. Great, I hate to be allocated a plumb ugly girl. I choose Nit, but she has another booking soon. I ask if the receptionist is available, but she says she's the owner. So Ploy it is, if I remember correctly. She is not very beautiful, just cute, but I want to get a feel about what this place is about.

She takes me to a private room, we pass curtain rooms but we don't go in there.

I undress and lay down on my belly as if it's an oil massage.

She comes back in and starts to massage my legs. The massage is so so, but there is something about it that makes it quite pleasant. The softness of her hands? The slow approaching of my scrotum? The hesitation turn when she reaches my ass?

I start to get a hard-on. Now, her hands accidentally hit my boner, my balls, when she tries to reach my inner leg. I get even harder.

With every move, she does something that makes me want more. First I relax and sleep with the stroke of her hands on my legs, then she wakes him up by accident. I love it.

Now she puts a pillow under my knee. To reach the muscles on the other side, she says.

I wonder which muscles.

Her hands come dangerously close to my scrotum, then at the next move, touch it.

By this time, I'm getting quite excited. This is different from the 30 min massage without any feeling and 10 min 'do you want special' that I'm used to.

When she finally fully touches my cock, I have trouble not to come.

But she keeps going, and doesn't force me to ejaculate.

Can you sit like a dog? She asks.

Surprised, I say I'm not gay.

Not for gay, she says, so I sit up.

She now grabs my dick full on from behind, in between my legs, and I love it. I didn't realize I love it. With every stroke, she also touches my ass. I'm sure I'm not gay but somehow this feels good.

I almost come again, but she stops and let me turn over.

The rest of the handjob happens slow and careful, screwdriver movements, one hand stroking my balls the other around my stem, like a gun ready to be fired off.

When I finally come it's a fountain and a great relief.

Gogo-nutz massage. Did I go nuts? Well, maybe not yet, but then it was good. I normally go for full sex, but this type of very slow massage has it benefits.

Worthwhile to try.

Shop is in Santitam, near a 7 Eleven, forgot the name of the street. Basically walk from the Ram hospital straight on, and turn left at the first 7 Eleven.How old was the woman, did she strip off, could you touch her and how long and how much for this glorified HJ?

[Franciscass]

Shop is in Santitam, near a 7 Eleven, forgot the name of the street. Basically walk from the Ram hospital straight on, and turn left at the first 7 Eleven.Can you be a little more specific on where this shop is. Turning left leaving Ram hospital takes you quickly to an intersection. Where is it from there? With respect in Thailand saying its near a 7 Eleven is as relevant as saying you can get noodles nearby. Thanks if you care to reply.

[Jijjy]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-daisuki-massage-by-lolita-chiang-mai-p101

[Franciscass]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-daisuki-massage-by-lolita-chiang-mai-p101Many thanks Jiffy. Looking forward to visiting on my upcoming Chiangmai trip.

[Franciscass]

Many thanks Jiffy. Looking forward to visiting on my upcoming Chiangmai trip.Sorry many thanks Jijjy.

[Arthur Tick]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-daisuki-massage-by-lolita-chiang-mai-p101Seen all this before. The prices listed on the menu are only the starting prices. Once into the massage the girl will either begin the haggling or give a set price usually an extra 1000 baht, if the customer wishes the girl to undress. Once she's undressed the girl still inhibits what the guy can do. Limited touching and no sex. So it's a glorified HJ with just a bit of titillation that will cost you over 2000 baht for the so-called full service.

This is what they mean in the small print where is quotes: (However, most masseuses here are willing and able to treat certain aching body parts of your body, and you can discuss your needs individually with the therapist.)

There are many of these types of places now scattered around Chiang Mai, prices may vary but they're all much of the same thing.

[Franciscass]

There are many of these types of places now scattered around Chiang Mai, prices may vary but they're all much of the same thing.Arthur,

As a frequent visitor I always enjoy my visits to Chiangmai. However it would seem for you as a long time suffering expat P4P is sadly an apocalyptic wasteland of biblical proportions.

Without doubt it doesn't compare to Bangkok Pattaya or Phuket, consequently my expectations are proportionally managed and realistic and as my stays are relatively short it's always a pleasant escape from the humdrum of Bangkok.

This new shop seems to offer something different than the usual fare available on the Loi Kroh, Kampangdin, Night Market circuit so my question to you as our resident expert is if you are not simply comparing Daisuki to these but as claimed know of other similar shops can you please let me know where they are located so I can give them a call in the not too distant future.

Thanks Franciscass.

[Arthur Tick]

Arthur,

As a frequent visitor I always enjoy my visits to Chiangmai. However it would seem for you as a long time suffering expat P4P is sadly an apocalyptic wasteland of biblical proportions.

Without doubt it doesn't compare to Bangkok Pattaya or Phuket, consequently my expectations are proportionally managed and realistic and as my stays are relatively short it's always a pleasant escape from the humdrum of Bangkok.

This new shop seems to offer something different than the usual fare available on the Loi Kroh, Kampangdin, Night Market circuit so my question to you as our resident expert is if you are not simply comparing Daisuki to these but as claimed know of other similar shops can you please let me know where they are located so I can give them a call in the not too distant future.

Thanks Franciscass.http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-anime-kawaii-shop-chiang-mai-p88 - Visited there several times. 500 baht extra for HJ, 1000 baht extra for girl undress HJ. Good selection of young beautiful girls, mostly students.

https://foursquare.com/v/pretty-club--massage/4df370e562e1288ed303d3dd Selection of beautiful girls, mostly students. B2B. 1000 baht extra for girl undress.

SP Thai Massage in the Chang Klan Road. FS offered. From 1000 to 1500 baht. Woman 4 out of 10.

Leelawadee Thai Massage, which is almost opposite Chiang Mai Railway station. FS offered. 1000 baht. Woman 3 out of 10.

[Franciscass]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-anime-kawaii-shop-chiang-mai-p88 - Visited there several times. 500 baht extra for HJ, 1000 baht extra for girl undress HJ. Good selection of young beautiful girls, mostly students.

https://foursquare.com/v/pretty-club--massage/4df370e562e1288ed303d3dd Selection of beautiful girls, mostly students. B2B. 1000 baht extra for girl undress.

SP Thai Massage in the Chang Klan Road. FS offered. From 1000 to 1500 baht. Woman 4 out of 10.

Leelawadee Thai Massage, which is almost opposite Chiang Mai Railway station. FS offered. 1000 baht. Woman 3 out of 10.Many thanks Arthur, hope you find some unexpected fun in Chiangmai at some stage.

[Arthur Tick]

Many thanks Arthur, hope you find some unexpected fun in Chiangmai at some stage.Thanks Franciscass.

For the best deal in Chiang Mai for glorified HJs, I recommend: Anime Kawaii Shop Chiang Mai. The place is a dump, but the girls are young and pretty and also the prices are set, even the extras, so there is no haggling.

In my case I've become bored with HJs and that's probably because I was spoiled in the past and seen the mongering scene in Chiang Mai, when it was good value and better with many options before all the clampdowns and big business got involved. I just don't think that these HJ parlours are good value for money and why I stopped using them. Not that I expect cheap, don't mind paying if they have something decent on offer.

[JasonMaxed]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-anime-kawaii-shop-chiang-mai-p88 - Visited there several times. 500 baht extra for HJ, 1000 baht extra for girl undress HJ. Good selection of young beautiful girls, mostly students. Hi Arthur,

I went here like 2 years ago, took just oil massage 1:30 HR, but when I tried the old 'can you special' to massage girl she said I should book ahead more time? - and re-book, anyway, you mentioned the prices are set, so do I need to book a different type of massage first or I just got a girl trying to get me back for more first? LOL. My Thai is pretty good also. Thanks.

JM.


Thanks Franciscass.

For the best deal in Chiang Mai for glorified HJs, I recommend: Anime Kawaii Shop Chiang Mai. The place is a dump, but the girls are young and pretty and also the prices are set, even the extras, so there is no haggling.

In my case I've become bored with HJs and that's probably because I was spoiled in the past and seen the mongering scene in Chiang Mai, when it was good value and better with many options before all the clampdowns and big business got involved. I just don't think that these HJ parlours are good value for money and why I stopped using them. Not that I expect cheap, don't mind paying if they have something decent on offer.

[Arthur Tick]

Hi Arthur,

I went here like 2 years ago, took just oil massage 1:30 HR, but when I tried the old 'can you special' to massage girl she said I should book ahead more time? - and re-book, anyway, you mentioned the prices are set, so do I need to book a different type of massage first or I just got a girl trying to get me back for more first? LOL. My Thai is pretty good also. Thanks.

JM.I've visited there three times. The last time I went was 9 months ago and I've always gone about 6. 00 pm and never booked, just turned up there. I go for the Oil massage 1 hour + Akasuri 30 min. Total 1. 5 hours THB 600. Requested the body scrub first and then the girl took me upstairs to a room for the oil massage. Each time the girls offered me the extras without having to ask. So with the girl naked, total cost 1600 baht.

As I said; the place is a dump but the girls are very young and pretty, usually about 10 to choose from, but it's all very mechanical.

I don't know why the girl didn't offer any extras in your case, the place is geared up for giving extras, but intimate touching and FS is a no, no there, as are most of those parlours, unless you strike lucky.

[Franciscass]

Thanks Franciscass.

For the best deal in Chiang Mai for glorified HJs, I recommend: Anime Kawaii Shop Chiang Mai. The place is a dump, but the girls are young and pretty and also the prices are set, even the extras, so there is no haggling.

In my case I've become bored with HJs and that's probably because I was spoiled in the past and seen the mongering scene in Chiang Mai, when it was good value and better with many options before all the clampdowns and big business got involved. I just don't think that these HJ parlours are good value for money and why I stopped using them. Not that I expect cheap, don't mind paying if they have something decent on offer.Seem similar to the Kapoo shops here in Bangkok. I've been a couple of times but found the experience less than satisfying. Even if she is a young university girl poor HJ skills and no touching will not get me off. That said a slow sensual nude massage by an open minded experienced masseuse combined with good HJ skills is fine and dandy.

[Rick Rock]

http://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-anime-kawaii-shop-chiang-mai-p88 - Visited there several times. 500 baht extra for HJ, 1000 baht extra for girl undress HJ. Good selection of young beautiful girls, mostly students.

https://foursquare.com/v/pretty-club--massage/4df370e562e1288ed303d3dd Selection of beautiful girls, mostly students. B2B. 1000 baht extra for girl undress.

SP Thai Massage in the Chang Klan Road. FS offered. From 1000 to 1500 baht. Woman 4 out of 10.

Leelawadee Thai Massage, which is almost opposite Chiang Mai Railway station. FS offered. 1000 baht. Woman 3 out of 10.There's actually no extra charge for full nude at Anime Kawaii. Or at least it's not set by the shop. It's up for negotiation. I've been several times, had uni students sat on my face nude while wanking me off. Never gave them more than 500.

[Zjfgdb]

I would like to know the Chiang Mai Gogo / Beer Bar Price for LT and ST now.

I have never been to the Beer Bars before and don't know how to play inside.

Visited Sayuri before for the price is 1800 B.

[Arthur Tick]

I would like to know the Chiang Mai Gogo / Beer Bar Price for LT and ST now.

I have never been to the Beer Bars before and don't know how to play inside.

Visited Sayuri before for the price is 1800 B.There are only 3 Gogo bars in the whole of Chiang Mai. Spotlight, Foxy Lady and the Star Six. The Star Six used to charge an admission fee but due to a decline in customers have discontinued the admission fee. The Star Six has also been made smaller.

These are of poor quality compared with the Gogo bars in Bangkok and Pattaya. Very tame and these days mostly frequented by young backpackers, their girlfriends and young tourist groups on a night out.

The last time I visited Star Six the only 2 girls available for take out quoted me 2000 baht short time, plus 600 baht bar fine. I dared not ask how much for long time. I offered 1500 for short time plus 600 baht bar fine, but they wouldn't budge on the price. I guess the other 2 bars will charge roughly about the same. A friend told me that last year, after several years, he decided to visit the Spotlight. Was quoted 6000 baht for long time plus 600 baht bar fine. Needless to say; he finished his drink and left there alone, he's not been back since.

Also customers are expected to buy drinks and lady drinks even before any girls will agree to go out with them.

No nudity, no sex shows, not even a Hello, welcome, all banned by the police.

Some other points, I've heard the mamasan in Foxy Lady is very pushy to make customers buy drinks, and in all those bars sometimes girls will lead customers on to buy them drinks then make an excuse and refuse to go out with them. If having an eye on any particular girl, ask first if she's available as a takeaway and how much she charges before buying drinks. Some may demand payment upfront, don't fall for that old trick. There have been cases when girls have been paid and then done a disappearing act.

[Arthur Tick]

I have been informed that the original Spotlight Gogo bar has closed down, and has moved somewhere nearby and seems to have been degraded to an ordinary beerbar.

Haven't checked this out myself yet, but if correct, this means there are now only 2 Gogo bars left in the whole of Chiang Mai, the Foxy Lady and the Star Six.

[Krum Lov]

Hi all,

I'll be staying in the Nimman area (just near Maya lifestyle shopping centre). I know this area isn't where there's much action to be found. However, am curious to know if anyone has ever found a massage shop that offers happy endings in Nimman? Thanks, Krumlov.

[Zjfgdb]

There are only 3 Gogo bars in the whole of Chiang Mai. Spotlight, Foxy Lady and the Star Six. The Star Six used to charge an admission fee but due to a decline in customers have discontinued the admission fee. The Star Six has also been made smaller.

These are of poor quality compared with the Gogo bars in Bangkok and Pattaya. Very tame and these days mostly frequented by young backpackers, their girlfriends and young tourist groups on a night out.

The last time I visited Star Six the only 2 girls available for take out quoted me 2000 baht short time, plus 600 baht bar fine. I dared not ask how much for long time. I offered 1500 for short time plus 600 baht bar fine, but they wouldn't budge on the price. I guess the other 2 bars will charge roughly about the same. A friend told me that last year, after several years, he decided to visit the Spotlight. Was quoted 6000 baht for long time plus 600 baht bar fine. Needless to say; he finished his drink and left there alone, he's not been back since.

Also customers are expected to buy drinks and lady drinks even before any girls will agree to go out with them.

No nudity, no sex shows, not even a Hello, welcome, all banned by the police.

Some other points, I've heard the mamasan in Foxy Lady is very pushy to make customers buy drinks, and in all those bars sometimes girls will lead customers on to buy them drinks then make an excuse and refuse to go out with them. If having an eye on any particular girl, ask first if she's available as a takeaway and how much she charges before buying drinks. Some may demand payment upfront, don't fall for that old trick. There have been cases when girls have been paid and then done a disappearing act.I tried the brothel near Chang Phuak Soi 4 half a year ago. The price was 600 B+120 B Short time hotel.

The pimp will try to ask 1200 B for 1 hour (it's all bullshit) at first, and you should bargain it in 600+120 B.

Remember don't give money to the pimp before you choose your girl. The first time I went there (I can speak very basic thai), I gave money to pimp before chose my girl, they send me a very bad attitude granny and what the fuck.

[Arthur Tick]

I tried the brothel near Chang Phuak Soi 4 half a year ago. The price was 600 B+120 B Short time hotel.

The pimp will try to ask 1200 B for 1 hour (it's all bullshit) at first, and you should bargain it in 600+120 B.

Remember don't give money to the pimp before you choose your girl. The first time I went there (I can speak very basic thai), I gave money to pimp before chose my girl, they send me a very bad attitude granny and what the fuck.The price you were quoted was correct.

It's 600 baht for 30 minutes excluding whatever it costs for the room. After 30 minutes someone knocks on the door and shouts; time up. All you had to do was tell the pimp you only want half an hour. 1200 baht for an hour is a fair price these days.

These places are not Farang friendly, that are concerned about bringing too much attention to themselves from the police and probably why you were given attitude. Tried it once some years ago, wouldn't bother going again.

[Zjfgdb]

The price you were quoted was correct.

It's 600 baht for 30 minutes excluding whatever it costs for the room. After 30 minutes someone knocks on the door and shouts; time up. All you had to do was tell the pimp you only want half an hour. 1200 baht for an hour is a fair price these days.

These places are not Farang friendly, that are concerned about bringing too much attention to themselves from the police and probably why you were given attitude. Tried it once some years ago, wouldn't bother going again.I have visited some small town of Chiang Mai without tourism before. I went to the Local Karaoke there and the girl asked 2500-3000 be for LT. Is it Reasonable price in small local town in Chiang Mai? I heard about the real price was 2000 LT.

As a newbie could you give me some tips about finding the action in Thailand? Last time I was in Chiang Rai I went into a Shackhouse Karaoke with LED light outside the door and I just ordered some food (I am newbie and not sure if have any action there so dare not ask something special). Unfortunately, The girls there didn't sit with me or advise me any something special. But they sit and talked with a group of 2-3 Thai guys (Maybe the Thai local returning customers).

I would like to know if this kind of place have something special?

I will visit Chiang Mai and explore it again next month.

[Arthur Tick]

I have visited some small town of Chiang Mai without tourism before. I went to the Local Karaoke there and the girl asked 2500-3000 be for LT. Is it Reasonable price in small local town in Chiang Mai? I heard about the real price was 2000 LT.

As a newbie could you give me some tips about finding the action in Thailand? Last time I was in Chiang Rai I went into a Shackhouse Karaoke with LED light outside the door and I just ordered some food (I am newbie and not sure if have any action there so dare not ask something special). Unfortunately, The girls there didn't sit with me or advise me any something special. But they sit and talked with a group of 2-3 Thai guys (Maybe the Thai local returning customers).

I would like to know if this kind of place have something special?

I will visit Chiang Mai and explore it again next month.There is plenty of action in Pattaya, and in Bangkok loads of women advertising themselves on craigslist. There is a thriving sex industry in Chiang Mai but mostly reserved for Thais, Farangs rarely can get in for a piece of the action. For westerners CM is simply not a mongers destination, not any more, anyway. All that's available has been well covered in this thread.

[Allover]

Just arrived for my first night in Chiang Mai and I wanted to go to Celeb massage parlor. Google Maps is indicating that Celeb Massage is permanently closed. Is this true or do I have the name wrong?

[Allover]

Just arrived for my first night in Chiang Mai and I wanted to go to Celeb massage parlor. Google Maps is indicating that Celeb Massage is permanently closed. Is this true or do I have the name wrong?Guess I'll answer my own question. I walked by Celeb tonight (Wednesday) at about 10:45 pm and it is still open. I went inside to find 11 very disinterested girls sitting behind the glass. I realize this is not a great time to visit. None of them smiled or looked at me. Only one of the girls was potentially doable but l wasn't interested. I'm going to Bangkok tomorrow and I know I can do better there.

Google maps still shows them as permanently closed.

[Bretword]

Hi all,

Going to be in Chiang Mai soon. Can anyone tell me anything about the bar Cando? It's supposed to be run by former bar girls. I'm curious how the experience is there compared to other bars. Thanks!

[Arthur Tick]

Hi all,

Going to be in Chiang Mai soon. Can anyone tell me anything about the bar Cando? It's supposed to be run by former bar girls. I'm curious how the experience is there compared to other bars. Thanks!Here is my report from 2012. Whether or not this has improved since then, have no idea, but somehow doubt it:

Some of you may have heard of the Can Do Bar, in Chiang Mai Land?

It was opened in 2006 as a: self-proclaimed "experimental. Dream bar" run by Empower Foundation. It's website says; the bar is owned and operated by sex workers. A vibrant energy packed the pub as girls performed skits, music blasted and girls danced a go-go with the poles, while friends brought bouquets of condoms welcoming the Can Do to its new home in Chiang Mai Land. I thought prostitution was illegal in Thailand? Apparently not, because there is a new bar strictly dedicated to it right here in Chiang Mai. The "Can Do" Bar's grand opening on Friday. 16 September 2006 stood as not only a new Chiang Mai night spot, but as a stronghold for sex workers throughout Thailand.

So yesterday (2012) for the first time I decided to seek out the Can Do bar and give it a try. Arrived there after getting lost a couple of times at around 8. 00 pm.

It's a small nondescript place, one blink of the eye and you've passed it. Outside, there are two sets of round tables with chairs. One table was empty and on the other sat 2 middle aged Australian women with one of the bar girls and I plonked myself down on the second table. The Thai manageress came out and was very jolly and welcoming. She welcomed me as a first timer and then I ordered a beer. Then an attractive young girl about 19 years old joined me at my table. I've struck gold here I thought.

Went to look inside the premises. It has a small long bar, a few tables and chairs and a pool table. There was no music playing, no poles that I could see and no other customers as the manageress told me that the 2 Australian women are the bar owners. They were having a good time, appeared slightly drunk. Then I offered to buy the girl at my table a drink and then the manageress asked if I could buy her a drink also and I agreed. The manageress spoke perfect English but the girl at my table hardly spoke a word of anything but she was quite friendly and pleasant in her own sort of way, just a bit shy probably.

After about 30 minutes of some drinking and a bit of jollying around, I asked the manageress if I could take any of the 2 girls she had there out? The manageress replied; sorry no, these girls don't go outside as they're new, but I can make a phone call to a friend who you can take out. OK I said, and then asked for some details. How much? Don't know. How old? In her early 40's and she can be here in half an hour. I thought about it and told the manageress; I will think it over and maybe for another evening. Then I said my goodbyes and left.

Later I thought, if the Can Do Bar is suppose to be a bar dedicated to the sex workers, but the sex part is a non event, than the name of Can Do should be changed to Can't Do and rather defeats the reasons for going there. It appears all they serve is drinks and chat and although there is no food served at the Can Do, the drinks were not over priced. A large LEO beer. 80 baht and lady drinks. 60 baht, plus everyone there was friendly and I never felt pressured.

Maybe I went on the wrong night at the wrong time and really should have asked the manageress some more questions, but for some reasons I didn't. Perhaps I just wasn't very impressed?

I did get the Can Do phone number and next time will phone first to inquire if there are any available girls. Maybe will get lucky?

It would be great if any of you could also check out the Can Do Bar to see if you obtain any better results and then report on here?

UPDATE. I haven't bothered to visit since. But I have driven past and it still seems to be there.

Directions: Travelling out of the town down the Chang klan Road, turn right into Chiang Mai Land. On the centre part of the road you will see a big yellow elephant. The Can Do Bar is on the opposite part of the road as part of a row of shops behind the elephant. That was 2012, don't know if the yellow elephant is still there or not.

[Shaun Palmer]

Any girl recommandation in spotlight new location?

Also, would anyone here have an idea on how it works in this bar with barfine and lady drink? I mean if I pay a barfine, would the girl get part of the money or nothing? If I pay a ladydrink, would the girl get some money on it?

Sorry for the newbie question, but I know it is not everywhere the same in thailand.

Thanks!

[Arthur Tick]

Here is my report from 2012. Whether or not this has improved since then, have no idea, but somehow doubt it:

Some of you may have heard of the Can Do Bar, in Chiang Mai Land?

It was opened in 2006 as a: self-proclaimed "experimental. Dream bar" run by Empower Foundation. It's website says; the bar is owned and operated by sex workers. A vibrant energy packed the pub as girls performed skits, music blasted and girls danced a go-go with the poles, while friends brought bouquets of condoms welcoming the Can Do to its new home in Chiang Mai Land. I thought prostitution was illegal in Thailand? Apparently not, because there is a new bar strictly dedicated to it right here in Chiang Mai. The "Can Do" Bar's grand opening on Friday. 16 September 2006 stood as not only a new Chiang Mai night spot, but as a stronghold for sex workers throughout Thailand.

So yesterday (2012) for the first time I decided to seek out the Can Do bar and give it a try. Arrived there after getting lost a couple of times at around 8. 00 pm.

It's a small nondescript place, one blink of the eye and you've passed it. Outside, there are two sets of round tables with chairs. One table was empty and on the other sat 2 middle aged Australian women with one of the bar girls and I plonked myself down on the second table. The Thai manageress came out and was very jolly and welcoming. She welcomed me as a first timer and then I ordered a beer. Then an attractive young girl about 19 years old joined me at my table. I've struck gold here I thought.

Went to look inside the premises. It has a small long bar, a few tables and chairs and a pool table. There was no music playing, no poles that I could see and no other customers as the manageress told me that the 2 Australian women are the bar owners. They were having a good time, appeared slightly drunk. Then I offered to buy the girl at my table a drink and then the manageress asked if I could buy her a drink also and I agreed. The manageress spoke perfect English but the girl at my table hardly spoke a word of anything but she was quite friendly and pleasant in her own sort of way, just a bit shy probably.

After about 30 minutes of some drinking and a bit of jollying around, I asked the manageress if I could take any of the 2 girls she had there out? The manageress replied; sorry no, these girls don't go outside as they're new, but I can make a phone call to a friend who you can take out. OK I said, and then asked for some details. How much? Don't know. How old? In her early 40's and she can be here in half an hour. I thought about it and told the manageress; I will think it over and maybe for another evening. Then I said my goodbyes and left.

Later I thought, if the Can Do Bar is suppose to be a bar dedicated to the sex workers, but the sex part is a non event, than the name of Can Do should be changed to Can't Do and rather defeats the reasons for going there. It appears all they serve is drinks and chat and although there is no food served at the Can Do, the drinks were not over priced. A large LEO beer. 80 baht and lady drinks. 60 baht, plus everyone there was friendly and I never felt pressured.

Maybe I went on the wrong night at the wrong time and really should have asked the manageress some more questions, but for some reasons I didn't. Perhaps I just wasn't very impressed?

I did get the Can Do phone number and next time will phone first to inquire if there are any available girls. Maybe will get lucky?

It would be great if any of you could also check out the Can Do Bar to see if you obtain any better results and then report on here?

UPDATE. I haven't bothered to visit since. But I have driven past and it still seems to be there.

Directions: Travelling out of the town down the Chang klan Road, turn right into Chiang Mai Land. On the centre part of the road you will see a big yellow elephant. The Can Do Bar is on the opposite part of the road as part of a row of shops behind the elephant. That was 2012, don't know if the yellow elephant is still there or not.

2 years ago I sent a pm to the Can't do bar on facebook asking; do the girls go out with customers? Did not receive a reply.

Last week sent another message, the same. No response. Go figure.

I`m guessing that this place is solely a hostess bar, where customers buy drinks and the girls just sit with them. Very much doubt any of the girls are takeaways. Unless anyone knows different?

[Dena0]

Very much so.

I had visited Pattaya few moths ago and banged a few hotties off TF. I even bought a premiummembership for this purpose for one month.

You need to hunt a bit though. My experience is about 10-20% will respond. Be polite, they know what you are up to mostly. Pm me if you want more details. I practically crawled WS!

Cheers and have a blast.Poster asked about TF in Chiang Mai, You replied with your experience using TF in Pattaya.

[Arthur Tick]

Tonight I decided to do some research on 2 of the most popular free Thai dating sites, Thai Friendly and Thai Flirting.

I have been a member of those sites for sometime.

On both sites I searched women in Pattaya of all ages. The majority of women in the Pattaya sections of all shapes, sizes and ages, were actively up for sexual encounters and what's more, they made it clear in their profiles of their intentions. Quoting themselves as freelancers, sideliners or straight to the point, and most give their Line I. DS and other ways to communicate with them. No BS, no having to play guessing games or ask for their contact details. Similar in the Bangkok sections, not as many as in the Pattaya sections, but still a lot to choose from.

Then I went back into the Chiang Mai sections. This truly is the opposite end of the extreme. Many women in the Chiang Mai sections have been on there for several years, I know this, first by seeing many familiar faces and some of the profiles that have comments, the comments are dated and really old. Most come across as being pure enough to be nuns in their profiles, with virtually no details about them or what they are seeking.

So what the hell is up with the Chiang Mai women on these sites? Are these women affected by some kind of puritan virus? I realise some may have struck lucky with Chiang Mai girls on those sites, as I have a couple of times, but overall it's pretty grim unless for guys seeking genuine relationships.

When in forums and blogs they describe Thai Friendly as the best site to meet hot sexy girls, which it probably is, but I'm sure they are not referring to the Chiang Mai sections. I am at a loss to understand it?

[Mostek6502]

Tonight I decided to do some research on 2 of the most popular free Thai dating sites, Thai Friendly and Thai Flirting.

I have been a member of those sites for sometime.

On both sites I searched women in Pattaya of all ages. The majority of women in the Pattaya sections of all shapes, sizes and ages, were actively up for sexual encounters and what's more, they made it clear in their profiles of their intentions. Quoting themselves as freelancers, sideliners or straight to the point, and most give their Line I. DS and other ways to communicate with them. No BS, no having to play guessing games or ask for their conWhen in forums and blogs they describe Thai Friendly as the best site to meet hot sexy girls, which it probably is, but I'm sure they are not referring to the Chiang Mai sections. I am at a loss to understand it?I have met girls in Chiang mai, some are freelancers and other are serious about meeting a decent guy for a long term relationship. Pattaya has a reputation and you would expect many of the girls there use TF for pocket money or to top up their main job, whatever that is. The Chiang mai girls were the same as korat and udon thani, it is a real mix. This girl fell into my lap and wanted nothing except to go for a drive and have dinner. That's the fun, you can never tell what you will get. P.S. , I am not a young guy either.

[Rick Rock]

I have met girls in Chiang mai, some are freelancers and other are serious about meeting a decent guy for a long term relationship. Pattaya has a reputation and you would expect many of the girls there use TF for pocket money or to top up their main job, whatever that is. The Chiang mai girls were the same as korat and udon thani, it is a real mix. This girl fell into my lap and wanted nothing except to go for a drive and have dinner. That's the fun, you can never tell what you will get. P.S. , I am not a young guy either.HAHA I met her too!

[Rick Rock]

So what the hell is up with the Chiang Mai women on these sites? Are these women affected by some kind of puritan virus? I realise some may have struck lucky with Chiang Mai girls on those sites, as I have a couple of times, but overall it's pretty grim unless for guys seeking genuine relationships.Thai women in general aren't as interested in Farang as some would like to think. Outside of those who make their living from Farang money most Thais just aren't interested. Even when they are they face huge social pressures from parents, family, friends and even strangers. That's really true outside of places like Pattaya and Bangkok.

That said, if you speak Thai it's not hard to pick up in Chiang Mai at all. I've heard if you don't speak it that it's really tough though. A friend of mine was there for months before he finally got a girlfriend. When I met her I instantly realized she was an Isan transplant living in Chiang Mai!

[Arthur Tick]

I have met girls in Chiang mai, some are freelancers and other are serious about meeting a decent guy for a long term relationship. Pattaya has a reputation and you would expect many of the girls there use TF for pocket money or to top up their main job, whatever that is. The Chiang mai girls were the same as korat and udon thani, it is a real mix. This girl fell into my lap and wanted nothing except to go for a drive and have dinner. That's the fun, you can never tell what you will get. P.S. , I am not a young guy either.Tell you what. If you know where it's possible to get girls like the one you have in the picture in Chiang Mai, lets meet up and the whole evening is on me. Food, drinks, the girls, a couple of hotel rooms and everything.

Now there's an offer you can't refuse.

[PoohKeyLover]

I have met girls in Chiang mai, some are freelancers and other are serious about meeting a decent guy for a long term relationship. Pattaya has a reputation and you would expect many of the girls there use TF for pocket money or to top up their main job, whatever that is. The Chiang mai girls were the same as korat and udon thani, it is a real mix. This girl fell into my lap and wanted nothing except to go for a drive and have dinner. That's the fun, you can never tell what you will get. P.S, I am not a young guy either.That's nice. I don't have much luck with TF so far. Just an average looking guy of East Asian descent.

[YoJohnny]

Hello Senior Mongers.

I would be visiting Chiang Mai for 3 days in 2nd week of Oct, would be residing in Art Mai Gallery Nimman Hotel. This is my first time to Thailand. Any info on hitching couple of contacts, addresses or brothels like the one we have in Singapore / Geylang would be good.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.

[Arthur Tick]

Hello Senior Mongers.

I would be visiting Chiang Mai for 3 days in 2nd week of Oct, would be residing in Art Mai Gallery Nimman Hotel. This is my first time to Thailand. Any info on hitching couple of contacts, addresses or brothels like the one we have in Singapore / Geylang would be good.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.I suggest you read all of the posts on this thread, most of this has been covered.

No Farang friendly brothels and Chiang Mai is now off the mongers radar.

In Google, type in Chiang Mai Locator, you will find all the information on there under the male entertainment section.

[SexIsLove]

Hello Senior Mongers.

I would be visiting Chiang Mai for 3 days in 2nd week of Oct, would be residing in Art Mai Gallery Nimman Hotel. This is my first time to Thailand. Any info on hitching couple of contacts, addresses or brothels like the one we have in Singapore / Geylang would be good.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.A FYI about a total scam bar in Chiang mai. Its called Together Karaoke or something, you can probably google for more info about this place! It was my first night in Chiang Mai ever, back in Feb 2018. After dinner and some bar hopping (nothing like BKK or Pattaya in terms of P4P scene or even otherwise), a tuk tuk guy took me to this place at around 2 am or something. In a couple of hours they racked up some several thousand baht, I was buying beer for a couple of ladies with me who seemed fun and innocent enough, but my guess is that it is the management who are a bunch of scum. Usually I may pay up and walk off, just take the losses, but this was gross overcharging. They tried to tell me that in addition to the drinks I also had to pay for the girls time with me. Pure BS since that was never communicated. I told them either you call the police or I am going to call them and gave some BS about knowing big shots in the area. They finally agreed to knock off about 30% off the bill, which I then paid and left.

The next day I went to spotlight at around 9 pm or so. It was pretty much a dead scene for an hour or so, then a reasonable looking chick maybe late 20's or older came and sat at the bar. So I bought her a drink and started chatting with her, apparently her regular was visiting from somewhere and was supposed to arrive any moment. However she introduced me to another much younger 8+ chick from Myanmar, recently arrived as I was told. I ended up bar fining her and also spent my remaining next two evening / nights with her, she would come directly to meet my at the hotel and then we would go dining whatever. She asked for LT 2700 but I would give her 3 K as I liked her attitude. We even went to a popular disco and it was crowded, although I could hardly spot any WGs there FWIW, just the local young crowd it seemed.

[YoJohnny]

Thanks Arthur. I would give that a try and RTFF.


I suggest you read all of the posts on this thread, most of this has been covered.

No Farang friendly brothels and Chiang Mai is now off the mongers radar.

In Google, type in Chiang Mai Locator, you will find all the information on there under the male entertainment section.

[YoJohnny]

Thanks for the alert bro, I will look out for it. I got the info needed and have zeroed in on Celeb. , dolphin spa, from the earlier forum messages I understand the rate is around 1400 THB to 1800 THB to pick someone from the fish bowl. Any other SPA with have good picks (read fish bowl) and goods upstairs. I am a boob man. The larger they are the horny I get.


A FYI about a total scam bar in Chiang mai. Its called Together Karaoke or something, you can probably google for more info about this place! It was my first night in Chiang Mai ever, back in Feb 2018. After dinner and some bar hopping (nothing like BKK or Pattaya in terms of P4P scene or even otherwise), a tuk tuk guy took me to this place at around 2 am or something. In a couple of hours they racked up some several thousand baht, I was buying beer for a couple of ladies with me who seemed fun and innocent enough, but my guess is that it is the management who are a bunch of scum. Usually I may pay up and walk off, just take the losses, but this was gross overcharging. They tried to tell me that in addition to the drinks I also had to pay for the girls time with me. Pure BS since that was never communicated. I told them either you call the police or I am going to call them and gave some BS about knowing big shots in the area. They finally agreed to knock off about 30% off the bill, which I then paid and left.

The next day I went to spotlight at around 9 pm or so. It was pretty much a dead scene for an hour or so, then a reasonable looking chick maybe late 20's or older came and sat at the bar. So I bought her a drink and started chatting with her, apparently her regular was visiting from somewhere and was supposed to arrive any moment. However she introduced me to another much younger 8+ chick from Myanmar, recently arrived as I was told. I ended up bar fining her and also spent my remaining next two evening / nights with her, she would come directly to meet my at the hotel and then we would go dining whatever. She asked for LT 2700 but I would give her 3 K as I liked her attitude. We even went to a popular disco and it was crowded, although I could hardly spot any WGs there FWIW, just the local young crowd it seemed.

[Zeus9]

Hello Senior Mongers.

I would be visiting Chiang Mai for 3 days in 2nd week of Oct, would be residing in Art Mai Gallery Nimman Hotel. This is my first time to Thailand. Any info on hitching couple of contacts, addresses or brothels like the one we have in Singapore / Geylang would be good.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.I was just there in early August for 5 days. I have never run into any of the mentioned brothels in Chiang Mai, and from what I've read, I'm glad that I didn't give any of them a go. Seems like an ultra seedy experience. There are a handful (3) soapies, and I would give those a try. Sayuri is pretty inexpensive 1500-2500 baht and worth a go. You could have some lookers in there, or nothing much. It just depends on your timing. It's harder, and more expensive to get taxi's in Chiang Mai verses Bangkok. I wold download the Grab app if you want to take taxi's in Chiang Mai. If you are confidant on a motorbike, and have an international bike license; then I would suggest renting a motorbike to get around as it's quick and easy to park anywhere.

You are also in Nimman, which is a nice area for food and cafe's. But you are probably 10 min. From the center of most of the action in CM. Your other options are beer bars in the Loi Kroh Road. Area, and the the boxing complex beer bars on the same road. I hang out in beer bars because it's entertaining for me, but it usually takes some work to find a girl I would bar fine. There are some bars where you could pick up Freelancers, but I'll let you look those up yourself.

I've had most of my success finding girls on Thai Friendly. Last time I visited I started messaging a girl on TF while I was in the airport at Bangkok waiting to board my flight for Chiang Mai. I was meeting her for dinner and drinks that same night. She was staying in my room that night. I spent most of my week with her, even though I stopped by Sayuri, beer bars, and a massage parlour in my freetime. But I fucked the TF girl for free everyday. She was a pretty heavy squirter with huge tits for such a short girl. So I tried to get as much time in with her as possible. She didn't ask for any money, I just paid for food and drinks while we were together. She had a good job as a teaching assistant in an international school, but I had the feeling that she wouldn't mind a sponsor either.

If anyone is interested in Massage place that I picked up extras in, then I can provide the location even though it's a bit tricky. They had mid 20's girls that were actually pretty attractive. The shop was in pretty decent shape also, but there were no private rooms as far as I could tell. The showers were available and clean with pretty hot water. The girl I chose was chatty and had a fun personality. She seemed interested in going to Tawandaeng later, but I had other things to tend to.

[Syzygies]

. Seems like an ultra seedy experience. There are a handful (3) soapies, and I would give those a try. Sayuri is pretty inexpensive 1500-2500 baht and worth a go. .The seedier the better for some guys. LOL I think good advice to try the Soapies. That is what I did in my early Thailand days.

[Syzygies]

A FYI about a total scam bar in Chiang mai. Its called Together Karaoke or something, you can probably google for more info about this place! It was my first night in Chiang Mai ever, back in Feb 2018. After dinner and some bar hopping (nothing like BKK or Pattaya in terms of P4P scene or even otherwise), a tuk tuk guy took me to this place at around 2 am or something. In a couple of hours they racked up some several thousand baht.The lesson is don't let Thai guys suggest a place for you and take you there. They get kick back commissions. Maybe only 1 in a 100 would be a totally honest suggestion.

RTFF is a better idea. Do your research.

In old days, if taking a taxi to a Soapy, I would tell the driver I am going to something else nearby. I did not want a price rise just because I arrived in a taxi and the driver would want commission. Arrive on motorcycle was usually safer.

Above all don't allow your driver to tell you your desired target place is closed and he has a better suggestion. Usually will be bullshit and taken to a place much worse. I found that even Thais tended to believe this scam when going to a restaurant.

[Cwomd]

How old was the woman, did she strip off, could you touch her and how long and how much for this glorified HJ?I tried this, I showed up in the evening and a couple of university-age girls were available.

I picked a tall slim girl with a bit of baby fat.

As for the actual massage, it was just a soft leg / back massage and then flip over for the HJ. No dog pose unfortunately?

She didn't allow much touching & she wanted an extra 500 baht to take off her clothes but I didn't bother.

899 baht, 1 hour was the base rate for this particular massage.

Personally, I generally think HJs are a waste of money but every now and then I give it a try.

FWIW, Vietnam still miles ahead in the HJ department, they combine it with really good nipple sucking and have the timing for it down. It actually tricks the brain into combining the two sensations of getting a tug job & the sucking action on the nipple, which gives you the combined sensation of a blowjob.

[Arthur Tick]

I tried this, I showed up in the evening and a couple of university-age girls were available.

I picked a tall slim girl with a bit of baby fat.

As for the actual massage, it was just a soft leg / back massage and then flip over for the HJ. No dog pose unfortunately?

She didn't allow much touching & she wanted an extra 500 baht to take off her clothes but I didn't bother.

899 baht, 1 hour was the base rate for this particular massage.

Personally, I generally think HJs are a waste of money but every now and then I give it a try.

FWIW, Vietnam still miles ahead in the HJ department, they combine it with really good nipple sucking and have the timing for it down. It actually tricks the brain into combining the two sensations of getting a tug job & the sucking action on the nipple, which gives you the combined sensation of a blowjob.The last HJ I was offered the woman asked for 500 baht after haggling her down from 1000 baht and even through she was quite young and attractive, it was so mechanical and mundane that I couldn't finish, just paid the 500 baht extra and 350 baht massage fee then left. That was a year ago and not been for one since.

All those other so-called B2B massage parlours are just HJs with fancy packaging. These days it takes more stimulation than just laying back and thinking of England to make it an enjoyable experience and as you say; a waste of money.

Visited Vietnam last February and couldn't believe how much more that has to offer than Chiang Mai. Girls were approaching me on their motorbikes in the street offering themselves and I took several back to my hotel room during my stay, FS on average 1000 baht for the whole night. Next year going to try out Cambodia, heard it's a monger paradise there.

[D Cups]

. Next year going to try out Cambodia, heard it's a monger paradise there.Yes, Arthur, and PI is even better IMO although slightly higher costs. I have been to Chiang Mai (for Loy Krathong) a few years ago and was disappointed in the action there, too. I got laid but it was too much work to find and the girls were unenthusiastic to say the least. Sure did enjoy the festival and the roof top bar, tho. Quite spectacular. Cheers.

[Mostek6502]

Visited Vietnam last February and couldn't believe how much more that has to offer than Chiang Mai. Girls were approaching me on their motorbikes in the street offering themselves and I took several back to my hotel room during my stay, FS on average 1000 baht for the whole night. Next year going to try out Cambodia, heard it's a monger paradise there.Have you written up more details in the Vietnam section. I was in Hanoi (with wife, not married now. Thankfully) and I have a keen eye and saw none of this. Might be worth a diversion for variety's sake.

[YoJohnny]

Thanks Zeus9 for your insight. I have zeroed in on Celeb, Dolphin for now and may be few on Loi Kroi Road. No time for picking a girl in bar & barfine. Also just for my info, is Art Mai Nimman hotel guest friendly, can I bring over a girl to the room without any eyebrows raised.

I would surely look into getting a motorbike as I do have a license and if taking a taxi or tuk tuk will go to nearby places rather than going to the correct address.

Thanks.

YoJohnny.


I was just there in early August for 5 days. I have never run into any of the mentioned brothels in Chiang Mai, and from what I've read, I'm glad that I didn't give any of them a go. Seems like an ultra seedy experience. There are a handful (3) soapies, and I would give those a try. Sayuri is pretty inexpensive 1500-2500 baht and worth a go. You could have some lookers in there, or nothing much. It just depends on your timing. It's harder, and more expensive to get taxi's in Chiang Mai verses Bangkok. I wold download the Grab app if you want to take taxi's in Chiang Mai. If you are confidant on a motorbike, and have an international bike license; then I would suggest renting a motorbike to get around as it's quick and easy to park anywhere.

You are also in Nimman, which is a nice area for food and cafe's. But you are probably 10 min. From the center of most of the action in CM. Your other options are beer bars in the Loi Kroh Road. Area, and the the boxing complex beer bars on the same road. I hang out in beer bars because it's entertaining for me, but it usually takes some work to find a girl I would bar fine. There are some bars where you could pick up Freelancers, but I'll let you look those up yourself.

I've had most of my success finding girls on Thai Friendly. Last time I visited I started messaging a girl on TF while I was in the airport at Bangkok waiting to board my flight for Chiang Mai. I was meeting her for dinner and drinks that same night. She was staying in my room that night. I spent most of my week with her, even though I stopped by Sayuri, beer bars, and a massage parlour in my freetime. But I fucked the TF girl for free everyday. She was a pretty heavy squirter with huge tits for such a short girl. So I tried to get as much time in with her as possible. She didn't ask for any money, I just paid for food and drinks while we were together. She had a good job as a teaching assistant in an international school, but I had the feeling that she wouldn't mind a sponsor either.

If anyone is interested in Massage place that I picked up extras in, then I can provide the location even though it's a bit tricky. They had mid 20's girls that were actually pretty attractive. The shop was in pretty decent shape also, but there were no private rooms as far as I could tell. The showers were available and clean with pretty hot water. The girl I chose was chatty and had a fun personality. She seemed interested in going to Tawandaeng later, but I had other things to tend to.

[YoJohnny]

Well I would vouch for Vietnamise girls. They are very pretty and the service provided by them in SG brothers were no match. I had few regulars and nothing like getting a BBJ with CIM. Followed by good massage and another sex session. Fucking in the air was the best part as they are so light, you can surely lift them up to your liking and fuck all night, get turned on very fast and groping with clothes on is a really fun at another level rather than just go in there and strip naked.

Cheers.

YoJohnny.


Have you written up more details in the Vietnam section. I was in Hanoi (with wife, not married now. Thankfully) and I have a keen eye and saw none of this. Might be worth a diversion for variety's sake.

[JohnnieBravo]

Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.

[Arthur Tick]

Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.Around the Thapae Gate area is where the street girls used to hang out, usually during the late hours, after 10.00 pm. It was possible to walk out your hotel room, go to that area and have a street girl in your bed within literally minutes, from about 300 to 400 baht short time. A few of my mates used to hire 3 girls at one time. For 2000 baht it was possible to have an orgy involving 6 girls.

But over time these girls have been cleared away by the police and now replaced by freaky ladyboys that hide in the shadows and pounce on males as they walk by.

Some of those girls were under aged and 3 years ago the police conducted a sting operation in that area. Police disguised as tuk tuk drivers or in plain clothes would wait for for any unsuspecting Farang to try and pull one of the girls, then they pounced, Farang taken to jail. Many of the under aged girls did look older.

Unfortunately you won't find any online either no matter how hard you look.

[JohnnieBravo]

So from the report I just read then, there are no freelancers to be found in Chiang Mai? No place to go where they might generally hang out?

[Syzygies]

Hello:

While I have been to Thailand several times, I have not visited Chiang Mai but will be doing so in about a month. I typically like to play the freelancers scene. I was wondering where the freelancers hang out in Chiang Mai? I have heard near Tha Phae Gate, is this true? Also, how much does the average freelancer go for for a short time in Chiang Mai? Thanks for helping a fellow punter out.

Regards,

JB.If you would go to Chiang Mai, surely you would not be going there for sex mongering purposes. Could be better to take a hot girl there with you (my normal practice). Does not mean there is nothing, just every limited, and maybe like Arthur says, too much effort for low reward. I have visited Chiang Mai several times over many years, and tried very few girls there, some in the Soapies.

There are certainly posts giving you some details further down this thread. Why not use that info?

[Arthur Tick]

So from the report I just read then, there are no freelancers to be found in Chiang Mai? No place to go where they might generally hang out?Basically that's about it. Some years ago there were a couple of discos that were renowned for picking up freelancers, but I've heard even those have faded away, unless of course anyone has information to the contrary, but I doubt it.

It may be worth trying the Tapae Gate area late at night, you might be lucky and stumble across the odd real female freelancer, being careful that any girl you pull may not be as she seems and have some dangly bits between it's legs. Also as I said previous; be aware of police jailbait stings down there with under aged girls.

Another point that if some of the skank from the Loi Kroh Road bars have had a slow night, once the bars close after midnight the odd ones do approach guys in the streets around that area, but very hit and miss.

Not sure about Spicy or even if that's still open. Does anyone have any up to date information on that? What about Zoe in Yellow, is that still good for picking up freelancers? Heard that's also become a dead loss.

[Arthur Tick]

The Raspberry Spa is another one of those glorified HJ so-called B2B massage parlours, only with this one I've received reports that full sex is on offer.

It is located in, Tha Noot Pong Soi 2, which is a soi off the Superhighway opposite Bangkok Hospital.

I've been told that the standard package, so-called massage and HJ for about an hour maybe 70 minutes if lucky will cost from 1500 baht up to 2500 baht according to how they determine the attractiveness of the girls.

Full sex is on offer and a girl will be chosen for the task if having a discrete word with the receptionist requesting the full sex package. They don't openly advertise that FS is available and won't mention this unless you ask, probably concerned about the police getting wind of it and being shut down for running a brothel.

It will cost you the standard rate as I've mentioned above, plus around 3000 baht for the sex. So in total it could whack you back over 5000 baht for that package. I have not visited the Raspberry Spa and have no idea whether the sex will be inhibited or mechanical. My guess is that it will be. If you are young hansum man or willing to splash even more cash the girls may give that little bit extra.

If more of these glorified happy ending parlours do have discrete FS on offer, and I guess many of them do, then this will give a rough guide to how much cash it`s going to set you back.

Welcome to Chiang Mai, where supply and demand sets the price.

[Franciscass]

Its true Chiangmai is not Bangkok but it's not true you can't have a good time there and I am no newbie from Muskogee, living in Bangkok for the past 20 years. I was recently there for 3 nights 4 days and had a whale of a time. It's all down to expectations and the unexpected. Met a cute 22 year early on who wanted to stay with me, a well preserved MILF who wanted to live with me forever and an experience at a place called Aloha in the middle of nowhere that left me very happy. All were all in massage shops and frustratingly no I didn't keep names or actual locations. I would just say if you go there chill, wander around with an open mind and good things can happen.

[Jktnoobie]

Spent a few days in CM recently and checked on 2 places mentioned in the site below.

http://www.livingthai.org/massage-pa...hiang-mai.html

Roong Fah Karaoke (Kampangdin Rd opp. O2 Gym) 1500 be for ST, 5000 be for LT, take out only. They have a car to take you and the girl to a nearby ST hotel or to your own hotel if it's nearby, the charge is only 50 be. I was staying at the Maninarakorn Hotel and they let me take the girl there. One manager speak a little English, the other none at all. There's no WiFi here so make sure you've downloaded Thai in Google Translate. The first time I walked in about 8 pm there were at least 2 stunners (8. 5/10) having their dinner. I stupidly thought more would arrive later but when I went back at 9:30 pm, there were only 2 average ones left (7.0 to 7.5/10). Beer and other drinks available, prices are the same as the beer bars. Forgot to ask what time they close. This will be my new fav hangout if I can walk in at 6 am and take one for a morning bonk: the.

Glass window brothel I think this place is closed, it's now an internet caf. Unless it's just a front!

Loi Kroh beer bars near the boxing ring 2500 be for LT, barfine 500 be (I think).

Saw many hotties (8.0 to 8.5/10) at Poppy Bar, Flash Bar and My Tirak 2 Bar (next to Starxix gogo). But I think most of these girls are only there to get drinks from the customers and aren't interested in ST or LT. I will normally check if the girl is interested in LT before I buy a second lady drink, all 6 girls I asked said they couldn't go for ST or LT for various reasons. I suppose it's possible they prefer handsome man, which I'm not! : the I eventually pulled a raunchy one with a challenging stare (6. 5 to 7.0/10) from Lollipop who turned out to be very enthusiastic. The girls I talked to at Flash Bar spoke good Chinese but couldn't speak much English, said they came from Pai? The girls at Poppy Bar and My Tirak 2 spoke English, but one could only speak Mandarin. So my guess is that these hotties are just there to extract drinks from the mainland Chinese tourists.

Beer bars opposite Mae Ping Hotel 2500 be for LT, barfine 300 be.

Girls are mostly 6. 0 /10 or lower, the one I took out was one of three there who was about 6. 5 to 7. 0/10. Better atmosphere, girls are less pushy about lady drinks.

[Buksida1]

The Spotlight Gogo bar is in a new location. Just open for a few months with younger sexy dancers that dance not doing the Bangkok shuffle. 3500 short time with a 700 baht bar fine. You can google the location. I walked from there back to the night plaza area along Loi Kroh road. At about 10 pm Near Thapae Gate, I was approached by a passable freelancer. There are a least a dozen ladyboys hiding in the shadows along the road. The bars were hopping and doing a fairly good business with lots of girls.

[Arthur Tick]

The Spotlight Gogo bar is in a new location. Just open for a few months with younger sexy dancers that dance not doing the Bangkok shuffle. 3500 short time with a 700 baht bar fine. You can google the location. I walked from there back to the night plaza area along Loi Kroh road. At about 10 pm Near Thapae Gate, I was approached by a passable freelancer. There are a least a dozen ladyboys hiding in the shadows along the road. The bars were hopping and doing a fairly good business with lots of girls.WOW, that's 4200 baht short time, which is probably about an hour if lucky. Just prior to when Spotlight moved a friend was quoted 6000 baht for ST. Needless to say he passed on the offer.

Spotlight was at the old location for over 25 years, I personally knew the owners Hoss the German and Bob Crabtree who died several years ago. Bob was so rich that when he visited Bangkok he hired a helicopter to take him from the airport to his hotel that had a helicopter landing pad on it's roof.

Having now moved I guess business can't be so good, and with those prices it appears they have become pretty desperate.

This also sends the message that the girls are there mainly as hostesses to sell drinks and if customers want to buy a takeaway the girls are saying; we will go short time but couldn't care less one way or another, can't be bothered unless willing to pay us silly money for customers that are desperate or have more money than sense.

The problem is that these places are setting a precedent and once this starts others will soon follow suit and then the high prices become standard throughout the city wherever boom boom is on offer. They are taking advantage of the supply and demand situation in Chiang Mai, because these bars have virtually no competition. This is why I don't recommend Chiang Mai for mongering, it's very hard work, hit and miss and not good value for money.

Many of the young desirable girls are now working in the glorified HJ parlours and rip-off karaoke bars spread around the outskirts of the city. In those places it can set you back over 5000 baht for a quicky and in the karaoke bars the sky's the limit.

I don't believe most of the stories on here from certain posters telling us how they scored multiple times with stunning girls for practically nothing. Those who explain how hot these girls were but when it comes to giving us names and locations suddenly fall down with an acute case of amnesia. I also dare say that anyone who discovers a real gem in Chiang Mai, probably won't tell us and I don't blame them. But I have lived in CM for many many years and have lots of friends and contacts here. I consider myself as knowing every inch of the city and if there are gems hidden away somewhere, I can assure everyone I would soon find out about it and would give out the information.

[Mostek6502]

WOW, that's 4200 baht short time, which is probably about an hour if lucky. Just prior to when Spotlight moved a friend was quoted 6000 baht for ST. Needless to say he passed on the offer.
This is more expensive than back in the land of OZ, and you can get very very good here for those prices.

Keep in mind that a teacher, accountant, mid level office girls make 12..15K baht a month, so these girls really have tickets on themselves asking this sort of money for ST

I meet girls on TF, and some don't even want money, they just want someone to take them out, make them feel special and they like us want a little it of jiggy jiggy too. I am not young or handsome. Treating the girls with respect and kindness pays back manyfold. Once a Thai girl reaches her late 20's she (and her family) considers herself a lost cause for marriage.

There is a good amount of contact available though other forums but you must be able to speak thai quite well (the web pages are in Thai) - I do not know them now, I saw them a year or so ago. As someone else said the University here is a very prestigious one and the students come from moneyed families.

[Arthur Tick]

This is more expensive than back in the land of OZ, and you can get very very good here for those prices.

Keep in mind that a teacher, accountant, mid level office girls make 12..15K baht a month, so these girls really have tickets on themselves asking this sort of money for ST

I meet girls on TF, and some don't even want money, they just want someone to take them out, make them feel special and they like us want a little it of jiggy jiggy too. I am not young or handsome. Treating the girls with respect and kindness pays back manyfold. Once a Thai girl reaches her late 20's she (and her family) considers herself a lost cause for marriage.

There is a good amount of contact available though other forums but you must be able to speak thai quite well (the web pages are in Thai) - I do not know them now, I saw them a year or so ago. As someone else said the University here is a very prestigious one and the students come from moneyed families.Right, it is also possible to find girls for that price in the UK and a lot cheaper advertised in the free advertising papers that are delivered free to homes every week. The back pages are loaded with them, young blonds, Indian and many choices.

I found the TF Chiang Mai section very limited for women that seem to be up for it, unlike the Bangkok and Pattaya sections where women openly advertise what they have on offer. But that's not really mongering is it? This is about chatting up women and trying to date them, so very hit and miss and a lot of work just in the hope of maybe getting a fuck, that applies anywhere not just in Chiang Mai.

Maybe some don't realize that 1000 baht is still a lot of money to a Thai. The minimum wage here is 300 baht per day, many Thais have to work long hours doing heavy work to earn that. I think these girls are taking the peeest and just looking for mugs. The sex industry in Chiang Mai has become greedy. They are not just squeezing the golden goose, but are in-fact killing it.

[Mostek6502]

Right, it is also possible to find girls for that price in the UK

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But that's not really mongering is it? This is about chatting up women and trying to date them, so very hit and miss and a lot of work just in the hope of maybe getting a fuck, that applies anywhere not just in Chiang Mai.

Correct, it is not mongering, but I just won't pay the money they are asking. Yes, even on TF it is difficult to find girls, it takes persistence.

[Buksida1]

I have been around Thailand awhile and I see many postings about the GFE days of yore. That experience is still available but the price is up considerably. I met a lady from Mae Hong Song last week at the restaurant in the Duntawayn hotel. She was working with a golf tour. Reasonably pretty, 31 years old, small and sweet. Asked her out for dinner and things moved fast. Next night she was giving me the best sex of my life. She got up in the morning and organized the room. The next morning she took my clothes out of my suitcase, ironed and folded them nicely, before I was up. When, I went to shower, she made the bed. I gave her 10,000 baht after 4 days of this old style treatment. She was thrilled! Its still out there, boys, just be kind and generous.

[Syzygies]

I met a lady from Mae Hong Song last week at the restaurant in the Duntawayn hotel. That would be DuangTawan (The Sun). The spelling got a bit garbled there.

[Member #4698]

I have been around Thailand awhile and I see many postings about the GFE days of yore. That experience is still available but the price is up considerably. I met a lady from Mae Hong Song last week at the restaurant in the Duntawayn hotel. She was working with a golf tour. Reasonably pretty, 31 years old, small and sweet. Asked her out for dinner and things moved fast. Next night she was giving me the best sex of my life. She got up in the morning and organized the room. The next morning she took my clothes out of my suitcase, ironed and folded them nicely, before I was up. When, I went to shower, she made the bed. I gave her 10,000 baht after 4 days of this old style treatment. She was thrilled! Its still out there, boys, just be kind and generous.Thanks for your report Buksida. I enjoyed reading it. Mae Hong Song: I like that town and the surrounding countryside. It brings up memories of a road trip I made 7 or 8 years ago. Not a huge fan of Chiang Mai however.

[Blanquiceleste]

I have been around Thailand awhile and I see many postings about the GFE days of yore. That experience is still available but the price is up considerably. I met a lady from Mae Hong Song last week at the restaurant in the Duntawayn hotel. She was working with a golf tour. Reasonably pretty, 31 years old, small and sweet. Asked her out for dinner and things moved fast. Next night she was giving me the best sex of my life. She got up in the morning and organized the room. The next morning she took my clothes out of my suitcase, ironed and folded them nicely, before I was up. When, I went to shower, she made the bed. I gave her 10,000 baht after 4 days of this old style treatment. She was thrilled! Its still out there, boys, just be kind and generous.Its heart warming to read such reports of old world mongering pleasures. Thank you. Brought back some really warm memories of true GFE.

[Mdemde]

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/around_thailand/30358920

Just read this news story about an Indonesian (woman arrested in Thailand yesterday for drugging foreign tourists, sadly, one of her victims died. I know there is more chance of being killed in a car crash, but just a reminder to be aware of the types of people that there are out there wanting to relieve you of your wallet!

[Syzygies]

That would be DuangTawan (The Sun). The spelling got a bit garbled there.Suddenly just noticed Mae Hong Son (g). It has no G in "Son" too. Pronounced closed to Mair Hawng Sawn. Mae normally means river in Thailand (e. G. Mae Khong is main river of East Thailand and other parts border) , short for Mae Naam, but the rest looks like comes from Chinese, so don't know the meaning.

[PeterSanchez]

I flew in to CM yesterday and checked into LE Meredian. Rented a moped (300 thb / day) in the store right next to the hotel. First stop this morning was grab some authentic northern Thai spicy food for breakfast. In addition to all the girl advice on here, I think everyone should skip the popular markets with English menus and eat at local joints.

Went to the Anime shop at 10. No lineup, the place as reported up thread is shady. But, so were places in Osaka. The room was clean and there was a little clock next to the mattress on the floor. In comes a cute (25 yr old) Hira. Natural see cups, fairly a large ass for a Thai girl. The massage was thorough and went on for almost 1 he. She asked if I want the special, no money talk. I said yes, asked her to get fully nude. She hesitated, I thought she was shy but did anyway. Small trim Bush, supple beasts. Let me roam freely and suck on the nipples. She continued with the HJ. I asked her to sit on my face but I thought she didn't understand. Allowed me to rub her pussy but I didn't FIV. She said she'll get off at 7 pm. I wonder if meeting outside is possible.

Total damage was 500 thb for the shop, 1000 tip to the girl. I think I will repeat.

[PeterSanchez]

Continuing the trip, I visited Celeb club. The place itself is huge, nice night club like atmosphere inside. I went at noon and there were only 3 girls. One of them was passable but I asked the papassan when more would show up. He said 5 pm. I decided to grab a drink, sit for a few minutes and left to come back. Went back at 7 pm and this time there were about 25-30 girls. The expensive side was 1900 thb and the other side was 1600 thb. The expensive side of the bowl had maybe 2-3 good looking girls. I picked one of them (Pim? Paid the fee, went upstairs.

The room is a dump. Compared to every other similar setting like this in Bangkok or other countries, this room setup is pretty mediocre. The windows face the main street in front. The girl makes sure the curtains are drawn close (they were). The usual, shower together, she scrubbed my groin area so much that my expectation for her BJ / work in that area were pretty high at this point. As soon as we got out of the tub, I dry up and get on the bed. 10 minutes or so, fake massage and on the flip, she grabs my dick and keeps hitting it on her tits. Not sure what the point of this is, but after a few seconds it started to hurt my member. I kept up with it. Out came the rubber, she sucked for exactly 30 seconds or less and proceeded to climb on me. At this point, I already lost interest in the girl, along with the room setup. I turned her doggie and tried to pump. One weird thing I noticed is that, she felt so loose, I have never felt a vagina like this before. I wasn't feeling anything. LOL. I had to make sure I am actually in. Anyway, after that I stopped trying. At this point, I think the girl got the signal that I wasn't satisfied, and proceeded to give a HJ, she did try for a good 10 minutes nonstop. I told her it's OK, tipped her 100 thb and left.

I have a mixed feeling about this place. The setup is good, I might have gotten a dud. The price is excellent. I might try it one more time before leaving town.

[Arthur Tick]

I flew in to CM yesterday and checked into LE Meredian. Rented a moped (300 thb / day) in the store right next to the hotel. First stop this morning was grab some authentic northern Thai spicy food for breakfast. In addition to all the girl advice on here, I think everyone should skip the popular markets with English menus and eat at local joints.

Went to the Anime shop at 10. No lineup, the place as reported up thread is shady. But, so were places in Osaka. The room was clean and there was a little clock next to the mattress on the floor. In comes a cute (25 yr old) Hira. Natural see cups, fairly a large ass for a Thai girl. The massage was thorough and went on for almost 1 he. She asked if I want the special, no money talk. I said yes, asked her to get fully nude. She hesitated, I thought she was shy but did anyway. Small trim Bush, supple beasts. Let me roam freely and suck on the nipples. She continued with the HJ. I asked her to sit on my face but I thought she didn't understand. Allowed me to rub her pussy but I didn't FIV. She said she'll get off at 7 pm. I wonder if meeting outside is possible.

Total damage was 500 thb for the shop, 1000 tip to the girl. I think I will repeat.This is correct and how that place operates, nothing special.

Fee for whatever the service you ask for, plus 500 baht standard HJ and 1000 baht girl naked, inhibited touching and HJ.

I've heard some of the girls will do FS in there, 3000 up to 5000 baht for mechanical sex that all have to be completed within the time period frame of whatever massage the customer chooses. So if the massage is for an hour, the massage, including HJ or FS has to be completed within an hour.

Many of these B2B establishments operate in similar ways with only a few variations and price differences. The only thing going for them is they do have young pretty girls, so it's a snifter of some fresh pussy for a few thousand bahts.

Personally, I prefer going the whole hog, desirable girls and some proper sex without the drinking and without all the massage crap as a substitute for lets really get down and have a decent fuck, which is no longer available in Chiang Mai on a commercial scale.

[Member #4591]

This is correct and how that place operates, nothing special.

Fee for whatever the service you ask for, plus 500 baht standard HJ and 1000 baht girl naked, inhibited touching and HJ.

I've heard some of the girls will do FS in there, 3000 up to 5000 baht for mechanical sex that all have to be completed within the time period frame of whatever massage the customer chooses. So if the massage is for an hour, the massage, including HJ or FS has to be completed within an hour.

Many of these B2 B establishments operate in similar ways with only a few variations and price differences. The only thing going for them is they do have young pretty girls, so it's a snifter of some fresh pussy for a few thousand bahts.

Personally, I prefer going the whole hog, desirable girls and some proper sex without the drinking and without all the massage crap as a substitute for lets really get down and have a decent fuck, which is no longer available in Chiang Mai on a commercial scale.Arthur. Do you like living in chiangmai? I've never seen you post any positive report about that city. On the other hand, others seem to be able to have a great time. Including myself.


Its true Chiangmai is not Bangkok but it's not true you can't have a good time there and I am no newbie from Muskogee, living in Bangkok for the past 20 years. I was recently there for 3 nights 4 days and had a whale of a time. It's all down to expectations and the unexpected. Met a cute 22 year early on who wanted to stay with me, a well preserved MILF who wanted to live with me forever and an experience at a place called Aloha in the middle of nowhere that left me very happy. All were all in massage shops and frustratingly no I didn't keep names or actual locations. I would just say if you go there chill, wander around with an open mind and good things can happen.

Here is another one.

[Arthur Tick]

Arthur. Do you like living in chiangmai? I've never seen you post any positive report about that city. On the other hand, others seem to be able to have a great time. Including myself..I love living in Chiang Mai and this site is about the mongering scene not other splendors about Chiang Mai, for that you can go on Tripadvisor.

Somehow claiming to have met 2 women in massage parlours but can't tell us where these are, and you telling us you have a great time here does not constitute any value for those hoping to find any commercial sex scene in Chiang Mai, but rather something one may try to meet on a dating site such Thai Friendly.

I don't believe these B2 B parlours that have sprung up around the city over the last couple of years are value for money and are in-fact a rip-off. If guys are desperate enough or willing to pay 1600 baht plus for a glorified wank is up to them.

These days I now travel to Cambodia and other S. E. Countries for my mongering, better quality girls, better service and a lot cheaper. In Phnom Penh I can get an 18 or 19-year-old stunning girl to stay with me all night for around 1500 baht. At times my friends and I have had us and girls in the same bed, one big orgy for about 1500 to 2000 baht each that certainly beats a wank in some massage parlour with time limits. This is how CM used to be 15 years ago and before but that's changed now and if any guys are considering visiting Chiang Mai for women, you're going to be disappointed.

[Franciscass]

I love living in Chiang Mai and this site is about the mongering scene not other splendors about Chiang Mai, for that you can go on Tripadvisor.

Somehow claiming to have met 2 women in massage parlours but can't tell us where these are, and you telling us you have a great time here does not constitute any value for those hoping to find any commercial sex scene in Chiang Mai, but rather something one may try to meet on a dating site such Thai Friendly.Arthur nobody is saying Chiangmai is a mongering destination comparable to Bangkok Pattaya or other well know Asian destinations. The bleak sad picture you paint of it reflects your personal experience and you are entitled to call it as you see it. For other members including myself our experience has been different. Suggesting because somebody doesn't remember massage shop names that maybe it didn't happen is being disrespectful. Chiangmai is what you make of it and this comes down to expectations state of mind and a certain amount of luck. I love the place and for whatever reason I always have a good time there with a variety of experiences, something sadly Arthur will most likely will never happen for you.

[Deanmaxed]

Have a slightly interesting question, first though I have had some good moderate success at the Anime massage shop, the girls are quaint and nice. It's not close to mongering but there is something nice about it really. Relaxed and don't have to go crazy.

So has anyone had any experience finding luck with the ladys who do the cleaning in hotels, or condominiums etc? There are 2 cute girls who clean the condo where I stay, so actually one was cleaning in another room across my window. So thought I would try to see what a flash would do, she actually ended up just staring and looking over for a while getting a look. She cleans my side of the condo too, do these types of girls look for extra cash on the side also? If say I 'invited' her to clean my condo room also? How you think that would go down?

[Arthur Tick]

A few days ago saw an ad on craiglists (Chiang Mai section) that had a photo of a massage shop with a phone number. The ad:

I am looking for Customers who around here Chiang Mai.

We are friendly and Good services me Can be your GF and Guide.

Let contact back. XXX.

So I put the phone number in Google that led me to the: PK. Thai Massage.

This is located in Hang Dong, on the main road (121) near the Hang Dong Road (108). Type: PK. Thai Massage, San Phak Wan, Hang Dong District, Chiang Mai into Google for more details.

On their website under services, it offers standard massage service, including massage with HJ and B2B for 1800 baht, by appointment only, incall and outcall.

So I decided to give it a try. Phoned and a lady answered who spoke very good English. Asked her age and she said; in her 30's. Made an afternoon appointment and went there. When I entered the shop it has about 5 tables with mattresses separated by curtains. There was already 1 Farang in the shop.

2 ladies and no way were any of them in their 30's, more like mid to late '40s. One lady took the Farang upstairs and the other one put me on the ground floor mattress separated by curtains. Oil massage 1 hour, 300 baht. She told me the shop had only opened 3 months ago.

She asked me to lie on my stomach and began the message. Very slow, just a rub over with hands that seemed to go on forever, so-called relaxing background music on a CD player that was way too loud and irritating, got boring, the woman looked bored that lasted for the majority of the message. Then she asked me to turn over. After 2 minutes asked if I wanted a HJ for 500 baht. OK, I said, but that too was nothing special.

When finished I asked her about the B2B massage and what was involved? Told me she gets naked, does a massage, choice of covered BJ or HJ, no sex, you want now, 2000 baht she asked? Although it said 1800 baht on the website, I had no intentions of paying that amount for an almost 50-year-old woman I didn't particularly find attractive anyway, just for a naked massage with HJ. Told her OK, next time, but doubt I'll be going back. Wasn't disappointed because it was more or less what I expected.

[Arthur Tick]

Arthur nobody is saying Chiangmai is a mongering destination comparable to Bangkok Pattaya or other well know Asian destinations. The bleak sad picture you paint of it reflects your personal experience and you are entitled to call it as you see it. For other members including myself our experience has been different. Suggesting because somebody doesn't remember massage shop names that maybe it didn't happen is being disrespectful. Chiangmai is what you make of it and this comes down to expectations state of mind and a certain amount of luck. I love the place and for whatever reason I always have a good time there with a variety of experiences, something sadly Arthur will most likely will never happen for you.I have been participating in this Chiang Mai forum for I think about 10 years now.

Over those years I've been one of the members who has most actively played the field and reported my accounts in detail that has probably saved many a lot of expense by given information of what type of services to expect if considering trying out what's left of the mongering scene in Chiang Mai, including the locations, costs and the services involved.

I do put these establishments under review and share my experiences including those from reports of friends. I have lived in Chiang Mai for 35 years and have many well-connected friends here, therefore, consider myself qualified to report and review the adult entertainment scene in Chiang Mai.

I suspect some posters do have business interests in the hospitality sectors of Chiang Mai and consider my reports at times, bad for business. In the past, I've experienced posters tagging onto every post I make and had to report them so the mods can make these people cease and desist from their bullying techniques.

I am sure my reports have been and are extremely useful to many. Chiang Mai does have a lot going for it, but as I've mentioned countless times, these forums are about the mongering scene, not about temples and the mountain views. For that, I suggest moving over to Tripadvisor, but my reports are only pertaining to the commercial sex and mongering scene, what this is all about.

Those who boast about having amazing sexual encounters and experiences at certain establishments but can`t give any names, prices, locations, and details are of no use whatsoever for informative purposes and I will challenge those posters for sources of the details they are giving.

[Franciscass]

I have been participating in this Chiang Mai forum for I think about 10 years now.

Over those years I've been one of the members who has most actively played the field and reported my accounts in detail that has probably saved many a lot of expense by given information of what type of services to expect if considering trying out what's left of the mongering scene in Chiang Mai, including the locations, costs and the services involved.

I do put these establishments under review and share my experiences including those from reports of friends. I have lived in Chiang Mai for 35 years and have many well-connected friends here, therefore, consider myself qualified to report and review the adult entertainment scene in Chiang Mai.

I suspect some posters do have business interests in the hospitality sectors of Chiang Mai and consider my reports at times, bad for business. In the past, I've experienced posters tagging onto every post I make and had to report them so the mods can make these people cease and desist from their bullying techniques..Your tenure in Chiangmai is beyond doubt Arthur and may explain your feelings about the "scene" there. I've lived in Bangkok for 20 years and sometimes I get the jaded it's all same same. As I write I'm actually here and enjoying the weather and the girls. My m. O. For what's it's worth is to wander around the massage shops find a face I like book an oil massage and see what happens I do this 2 maybe 3 times a day until I meet somebody I hit it off with and then invite her to stay the night. Not always successful but always enjoyable. There is no point in mentioning which shop or girl because this is an one on one experience between me and some random masseuse. It's up to anybody wanting to try this approach to take the time stroll along the street facing the Mae Ping all the way to the Taepai Rd and also along Loh Kroh. The girls I hit it off may be totally different to the girls somebody else clicks with. The other thing about the girls I meet here they are genuinely nicer and friendlier than their cousins who choose to work in Bangkok or Pattaya.

[Deanmaxed]

Have a slightly interesting question, first though I have had some good moderate success at the Anime massage shop, the girls are quaint and nice. It's not close to mongering but there is something nice about it really. Relaxed and don't have to go crazy.

So has anyone had any experience finding luck with the ladys who do the cleaning in hotels, or condominiums etc? There are 2 cute girls who clean the condo where I stay, so actually one was cleaning in another room across my window. So thought I would try to see what a flash would do, she actually ended up just staring and looking over for a while getting a look. She cleans my side of the condo too, do these types of girls look for extra cash on the side also? If say I 'invited' her to clean my condo room also? How you think that would go down?Anyone with any thoughts or experience on this? Cheers.

[Rick Rock]

Have a slightly interesting question, first though I have had some good moderate success at the Anime massage shop, the girls are quaint and nice. It's not close to mongering but there is something nice about it really. Relaxed and don't have to go crazy.

So has anyone had any experience finding luck with the ladys who do the cleaning in hotels, or condominiums etc? There are 2 cute girls who clean the condo where I stay, so actually one was cleaning in another room across my window. So thought I would try to see what a flash would do, she actually ended up just staring and looking over for a while getting a look. She cleans my side of the condo too, do these types of girls look for extra cash on the side also? If say I 'invited' her to clean my condo room also? How you think that would go down?She'll probably do nothing because most of them are Shan refugees and immigrants from Burma. If she does do something, it will probably be to mention it to a higher up. They'll probably call the police, and then we'll see your face on Thai Visa.

[Rick Rock]

Those who boast about having amazing sexual encounters and experiences at certain establishments but can`t give any names, prices, locations, and details are of no use whatsoever for informative purposes and I will challenge those posters for sources of the details they are giving.I used to say the same sort of thing. Experience has soured me though.

The problem is you get nothing out of sharing the information. But when you go back to the places you share, the service goes way down and the prices go up. This isn't a closed community of seasoned mongers anymore. There are a lot of unhinged guys reading this site who will destroy anything you put them onto. I hope no farang ever finds any of the good places in Chiang Mai to be honest.

[Arthur Tick]

I used to say the same sort of thing. Experience has soured me though.

The problem is you get nothing out of sharing the information. But when you go back to the places you share, the service goes way down and the prices go up. This isn't a closed community of seasoned mongers anymore. There are a lot of unhinged guys reading this site who will destroy anything you put them onto. I hope no farang ever finds any of the good places in Chiang Mai to be honest.Although I don't believe there are any good mongering places now left in Chiang Mai, I do know that if some do stumble upon a gem somewhere, they'll be vague with the details for the reasons you mention and I can't blame them.

I also agree that this site and others similar that they are no longer a community of closed or open seasoned mongers anymore, which in fact means these sites are only going to cover old ground that most of us already know about and in-fact these Chiang Mai adult entertainment forums and information websites are not really serving a useful purpose, that is, sharing experiences on the Chiang Mai commercial sex scene and the passing on of information. This section especially becoming more like Thai visa with opinions about other posters rather than for reasons I have mentioned above.

I think judging by the minimum lack of activity on here proves that there's not much happening monger wise on the Chiang Mai scene that has deteriorated over the years into literally which has become just a load of grot. I do belong to a couple of more sites similar to ISG and like this one, virtually no activity and some that were around a couple of years ago have closed their sites down.

[Daddy San]

Have a slightly interesting question, first though I have had some good moderate success at the Anime massage shop, the girls are quaint and nice. It's not close to mongering but there is something nice about it really. Relaxed and don't have to go crazy.

So has anyone had any experience finding luck with the ladys who do the cleaning in hotels, or condominiums etc? There are 2 cute girls who clean the condo where I stay, so actually one was cleaning in another room across my window. So thought I would try to see what a flash would do, she actually ended up just staring and looking over for a while getting a look. She cleans my side of the condo too, do these types of girls look for extra cash on the side also? If say I 'invited' her to clean my condo room also? How you think that would go down?There is a saying 'Never fuck the hired hand'.

You better stay with scaring old ladies in the park with your flashing stuff.

[Rick Rock]

Although I don't believe there are any good mongering places now left in Chiang Mai, I do know that if some do stumble upon a gem somewhere, they'll be vague with the details for the reasons you mention and I can't blame them.

I also agree that this site and others similar that they are no longer a community of closed or open seasoned mongers anymore, which in fact means these sites are only going to cover old ground that most of us already know about and in-fact these Chiang Mai adult entertainment forums and information websites are not really serving a useful purpose, that is, sharing experiences on the Chiang Mai commercial sex scene and the passing on of information. This section especially becoming more like Thai visa with opinions about other posters rather than for reasons I have mentioned above.

I think judging by the minimum lack of activity on here proves that there's not much happening monger wise on the Chiang Mai scene that has deteriorated over the years into literally which has become just a load of grot. I do belong to a couple of more sites similar to ISG and like this one, virtually no activity and some that were around a couple of years ago have closed their sites down.The Thai language forums actually have a lot of information about the many good places in Chiang Mai. I personally think there are at least 10 very good spots in and around the city. I haven't seen most of them mentioned here though. I hope it stays that way.

[Arthur Tick]

The Thai language forums actually have a lot of information about the many good places in Chiang Mai. I personally think there are at least 10 very good spots in and around the city. I haven't seen most of them mentioned here though. I hope it stays that way.There is a thriving sex industry in Chiang Mai, mostly operated by and reserved for Thais. Unless able to speak (included knowledge of Thai slang words so not easy to do a Google translate) read and write fluent Thai then Farangs rarely, if ever, can get in for a piece of the action and very much doubt these will be advertised on standard forums, Chiang Mai scene sites, craigslist or Thai dating sites.

There is also a huge demand for minor girls being pimped out by so-called Thai agents online including facebook. All going on in front of our noses but all strictly in Thai. So we never catch on what's being offered in this Thai parallel Universe sex industry. The Thais prefer it this way, keeping foreigners on the outside so as not to draw international attention as to how the Thai sex industry operates, who are involved and the clientele they cater for.

Here is a Bangkok Post article from 2013 that brings more light onto the subject:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/349226/online-sex-services-booming

I have already covered this in detail on this thread. So again just covering old ground, it's nothing new.

[Questner]

There is a thriving sex industry in Chiang Mai, mostly operated by and reserved for Thais. Unless able to speak (included knowledge of Thai slang words so not easy to do a Google translate) read and write fluent Thai then Farangs rarely, if ever, can get in for a piece of the action and very much doubt these will be advertised on standard forums, Chiang Mai scene sites, craigslist or Thai dating sites.

There is also a huge demand for minor girls being pimped out by so-called Thai agents online including facebook. All going on in front of our noses but all strictly in Thai. So we never catch on what's being offered in this Thai parallel Universe sex industry. The Thais prefer it this way, keeping foreigners on the outside so as not to draw international attention as to how the Thai sex industry operates, who are involved and the clientele they cater for.

Here is a Bangkok Post article from 2013 that brings more light onto the subject:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/349226/online-sex-services-booming

I have already covered this in detail on this thread. So again just covering old ground, it's nothing new.Would you please stop posting links to annoying articles, moreover these that should never be a topic of discussion here. Majority of readers don't speak Thai and have no intention to ever start. All many of us need is a short list of freelance venues where pick up is guaranteed. No massage parlors, no escorts services, no BS. Just keep it simple to freelances of age of majority.

[Rick Rock]

There is a thriving sex industry in Chiang Mai, mostly operated by and reserved for Thais. Unless able to speak (included knowledge of Thai slang words so not easy to do a Google translate) read and write fluent Thai then Farangs rarely, if ever, can get in for a piece of the action and very much doubt these will be advertised on standard forums, Chiang Mai scene sites, craigslist or Thai dating sites.Since I spend time in Thailand every year, I learned some Thai. They don't mind foreigners at all. The Thai just helps find the place and communicate. They don't blink an eye at me not being Thai, with the exception of 1 or 2 cheap brothels. Women and service is at least five times better than what they put out for farang. In Chiang Mai, I would say maybe twenty times better.

[Arthur Tick]

Since I spend time in Thailand every year, I learned some Thai. They don't mind foreigners at all. The Thai just helps find the place and communicate. They don't blink an eye at me not being Thai, with the exception of 1 or 2 cheap brothels. Women and service is at least five times better than what they put out for farang. In Chiang Mai, I would say maybe twenty times better.Thai Women and service is at least five times better than what they put out for farang. So? What's your point?

[Rick Rock]

Thai Women and service is at least five times better than what they put out for farang. So? What's your point?My point is that instead of complaining about the lame farang bars in Chiang Mai learn some Thai or do a little research and go to the many places in town that are 5-20 times better.

[Arthur Tick]

My point is that instead of complaining about the lame farang bars in Chiang Mai learn some Thai or do a little research and go to the many places in town that are 5-20 times better.Your point is you have no point, you're just tagging on to my posts for the sake of. No doubts you will come back on this post too.

I'm not complaining about the lame farang bars, I am giving out information and like to bet I speak better Thai than you do.

You say the many places that are 5 to 20 times better, so what use is that. I still don't know what your point is. If you believe you have better information than me then put up, overwise why are you bothering to post what is basically a useless load of crap.

[Rick Rock]

Thanks for the laughs man. Enjoy Chiang Mai.

[Trace79]

My point is that instead of complaining about the lame farang bars in Chiang Mai learn some Thai or do a little research and go to the many places in town that are 5-20 times better.I haven't posted on this site in a while, and never before in the Thailand section, but after living in Chiang Mai the last 8 months and studying Thai, I have to agree with Rick Rock.

Chiang Mai is a big city, but when it comes to the farang bars, restaurants, mongering spots. It's fucking tiny. I spend a few nights per month blowing money on Loi Kroh, dated a girl for a few months from the back end of one of those bars, been to a few massage places (Daisuki is reliably the best value for the money so it's my go-to if I'm up for that but the massage girls constantly change and some have better skill than others of course,) and have hooked up with random girls from bartenders, waitresses, day game, you name it. I don't go to places like Zoe or Spicy because I hate the backpacker farang that go there and almost all those girls are either freelancers or they're taking dick from every corner of the city. I also have never paid a bar fine or a freelancer here. Don't really need to.

However, I'm finding that the longer I stay in this town, the smaller it is getting. I've seen many of the bar girls from Loi Kroh go with guy after guy. I even run into them with different guys in every day situations. But I'm just 'their friend' so they aren't losing face. I have also noticed that I'm running out of places to 'hunt' for girls that I haven't fucked yet. I've even been caught a few times by a girl I've fucked before with a different girl but from a neighboring bar (not beer bar girls.) On top of this, I have met Eskimo brothers here in CNX (guys that have fucked the same girl.).

And lastly, before I mention why I am agreeing with Rick Rock, I have probably contracted my first ever STD right before my 40th birthday from a sexy AF waitress / bartender I was fucking for about a month that works at one of those guesthouses / hotels in the Old City. (Got the antibiotics and all is well.) This girl was pure sex, the porn kind, from day one. Smoking hot body, 25 years old, perky tits, squeeled vulgarly and loud. Could clench her pussy stronger than any pussy I'd ever had in my life. Could make me cum whenever she wanted by doing that. Had some bad tattoos and blond braids for fake hair with fake eye lashes. She probably worked in Pattaya or Phuket before based on some of her FB pictures.

Things were great at first. But then the attitude came about a little after a week. It got worse. She would only hit me up for sex and at her call. Her friends all dress like working girls and they all hang out at Zoe in yellow all the time. She never even asked for money and she even refused to accept when I offered to help her fix her motorbike. However, whenever I visited her work, I was always seeing her saying goodbye with some other farang with "see you later" softly spoken. Yeah, should have quit before I had to get loaded up on antibiotics shortly after Christmas which was the last time we fucked. So many red flags. Should have paid attention, but that pussy man. Fuck.

Anyway, told her I might have caught something. She seemed concerned at first. Then zero interest. After a few days. She told me she was going to get checked up but instead, for the first time ever, she asked for money for her new hair do for her upcoming birthday. This girl could barely afford to fix her motorbike, works 80 hours a week, carries backpacks with broken shoulder straps, and would rather get money for new hair rather than an STD screening and possible treatment. Because on Instagram she's a rock star. (If anyone wants to know where she works to chance their luck, send me a PM haha).

So long story short, the reason I agree with Rick Rock is because I've realised there are more tourist farang, English teachers, and so-called digital nomads here in Chiang Mai than there are actual Thai girls that are interested in farang men and that can speak English! Big difference there. Most of the girls that can speak English have learned it in the bar, or by having lots of dick, or both. The good Thai girls that aren't corrupted yet, that can't speak english, but are interested in something other than a Thai guy, will not approach us. They might even run if we say Hi.

I have learned some Thai, I can read a little, but my interest and choice to learn has given me leaps and bounds more opportunities than the average traveler passing through. This is a town where you are basically a farang that knows the language and gets access to the deeper parts of CNX and Thai culture, or you're just another fucking tourist.

So, in conclusion, without understanding of Thai language on a deeper level than even most expats that have been here for a few years (because most of those guys are spoiled and think that the Thailand of the 1990's still exists where a few dollars is enough to get you laid without any Thai,) then don't even bother coming here for sex tourism compared to Pattaya. Don't even bother trying to find a good girlfriend. You'll find pussy easily if you're decent looking and can pay for a few nights out. But just remember, you won't be the only one so wrap that shit up because almost every guy I've talked to doesn't wear condoms. Even with bar girls they've barfined.

There's a reason Northern Thailand is the STD capital of SEAsia. Chiang Mai is small as fuck in the whoring and club circle.

[Rick Rock]

Had some bad tattoos and blond braids for fake hair with fake eye lashes.Bad signs. Usually unavoidable in Pattaya. In Chiang Mai there is a lot of other choice. Still understand how she pulled you in. Just in general any girl like this is going to be bad news in northern Thailand.


So long story short, the reason I agree with Rick Rock is because I've realised there are more tourist farang, English teachers, and so-called digital nomads here in Chiang Mai than there are actual Thai girls that are interested in farang men and that can speak English! Big difference there. Most of the girls that can speak English have learned it in the bar, or by having lots of dick, or both. The good Thai girls that aren't corrupted yet, that can't speak english, but are interested in something other than a Thai guy, will not approach us. They might even run if we say Hi.Absolutely 100 percent true. The ones who can speak English have those skills for a reason. You've already figured out what they are.

Some people come to Thailand and look for women with the worst features of their own society. You (like me) have realized how much more is out there.

This not only applies to dating and pick ups (which are very possible if you can put together a few sentences in Thai).

It also applies to mongering. Because there are many good mongering places in Chiang Mai. They all accept Farang (though 1-2 cheap brothels have girls who fear the mythical white dick). They all have better looking women working than any Farang bar or massage. They all offer better service than any Farang shop. And they're all cheaper. It's a no brainer, but you have to use some brains to find them.


But just remember, you won't be the only one so wrap that shit up because almost every guy I've talked to doesn't wear condoms. Even with bar girls they've barfined.

There's a reason Northern Thailand is the STD capital of SEAsia. Chiang Mai is small as fuck in the whoring and club circle.Especially since Thailand has one of the highest HIV rates in the world, and northern Thailand has the highest rates of the country.

[Trace79]

Absolutely 100 percent true. The ones who can speak English have those skills for a reason. You've already figured out what they are.

Some people come to Thailand and look for women with the worst features of their own society. You (like me) have realized how much more is out there.

This not only applies to dating and pick ups (which are very possible if you can put together a few sentences in Thai).

It also applies to mongering. Because there are many good mongering places in Chiang Mai. They all accept Farang (though 1-2 cheap brothels have girls who fear the mythical white dick). They all have better looking women working than any Farang bar or massage. They all offer better service than any Farang shop. And they're all cheaper. It's a no brainer, but you have to use some brains to find them.The best way to stand out from countless tourists and farang living here is to learn Thai. The only other way second to that is to spend money like fucking crazy. I'm going to stick with the former.

As far as the Thai mongering places you mention, I have to agree. Aside from the slums of the Santitham brothels which mostly have Laos and Burmese girls, I've found a Thai brothel across from O2 gym just south of the end of Loi Kroh. There are some wicked fucking hot Thai girls in there. I haven't been in a very long time and never took a girl out; just drank a beer and chatted with the mamasan. Only one girl was available for me and she was much less attractive than the others. The others wouldn't even make eye contact; they just kept playing on their phones. These girls were mostly on the same level as the Thai hostess bars where you have super cheap Chang or LEO girls standing near your table constantly filling your glass or adding ice.

Speaking of the hostess bars in the Thai neighborhoods. Don't go solo. The Thais don't do it. You'll look weird and the This will think you aren't normal coming to a place like that alone. And you also will have a very small chance of getting a hostess girl's Line in a place like that where her friends and other Thais are watching.

The more you speak Thai, the better your chances of landing a hostess girl, getting a hot Thai girl from a Thai brothel, and the less money you will have to pay.

[Arthur Tick]

I haven't posted on this site in a while, and never before in the Thailand section, but after living in Chiang Mai the last 8 months and studying Thai, I have to agree with Rick Rock.

Chiang Mai is a big city, but when it comes to the farang bars, restaurants, mongering spots. It's fucking tiny. I spend a few nights per month blowing money on Loi Kroh, dated a girl for a few months from the back end of one of those bars, been to a few massage places (Daisuki is reliably the best value for the money so it's my go-to if I'm up for that but the massage girls constantly change and some have better skill than others of course,) and have hooked up with random girls from bartenders, waitresses, day game, you name it. I don't go to places like Zoe or Spicy because I hate the backpacker farang that go there and almost all those girls are either freelancers or they're taking dick from every corner of the city. I also have never paid a bar fine or a freelancer here. Don't really need to.

However, I'm finding that the longer I stay in this town, the smaller it is getting. I've seen many of the bar girls from Loi Kroh go with guy after guy. I even run into them with different guys in every day situations. But I'm just 'their friend' so they aren't losing face. I have also noticed that I'm running out of places to 'hunt' for girls that I haven't fucked yet. I've even been caught a few times by a girl I've fucked before with a different girl but from a neighboring bar (not beer bar girls.) On top of this, I have met Eskimo brothers here in CNX (guys that have fucked the same girl.)..Thank you for this brilliant report and it sums up the present day Chiang Mai mongering scene nicely.

There are always going to be risks of contracting STDs when going with any hookers or even meeting girls at random these days, and considering that Chiang Mai Thai hookers who cater more on the Farang scene are going to be heavily used due to supply and demand, the risks of STDs are probably going to be higher up here, so perhaps staying with the B2B HJ establishments are a safer bet or cracking into the Thai orientated sex scene, that again as you said; many of the Thai guys don't like using condoms.

Sadly, I really don't think there is much more that can be said on the ISG Chiang Mai forum. The old saying; it is, what it is.

[VisitUSA]

Aside from the slums of the Santitham brothels which mostly have Laos and Burmese girls, I've found a Thai brothel across from O2 gym just south of the end of Loi Kroh. There are some wicked fucking hot Thai girls in there. I haven't been in a very long time and never took a girl out; just drank a beer and chatted with the mamasan. Only one girl was available for me and she was much less attractive than the others. The others wouldn't even make eye contact; they just kept playing on their phones. These girls were mostly on the same level as the Thai hostess bars where you have super cheap Chang or LEO girls standing near your table constantly filling your glass or adding ice..I was pointing out that place during a trip, last year. I went back in the afternoon but it seemed closed (strange place from the outside, but I guess that those establishments should not be obvious).

Does it only open on the evening?

The best places that I know are the nuru places. They can offer nice experiences once in a while.

[Franciscass]

The best places that I know are the nuru places. They can offer nice experiences once in a while.Which are where?

[Tibedoh]

Hi guys,

Question here, hope it's not out of line.

I have more money than time and don't go mongering too often, so want to have the best experience.

What's the best place in Chiang Mai where I can find hotter girls for short time, if price is no issue?

Also is there some place in Chiang Mai to get some mild BDSM and other fantasies fulfilled? If not maybe in Bangkok? Thanks!

[Zjfgdb]

Just arrived for my first night in Chiang Mai and I wanted to go to Celeb massage parlor. Google Maps is indicating that Celeb Massage is permanently closed. Is this true or do I have the name wrong?Celeb is still open.

I went there in 2018. Price 1300-1600 if you can speak Thai.

[Anderlu]

I have visited Chiang Mai several times, occasionally for longer spells. For three year I have considered buying a condo to live part of he year here. Whereas I enjoy a certain aspect of life in.

[WombatEd2]

I have visited Chiang Mai several times, occasionally for longer spells. For three year I have considered buying a condo to live part of he year here. Whereas I enjoy a certain aspect of life in.So how is Chiang Mai? I haven't been there in 20 years. I loved it then, and am wondering what it's like now.

[NewImage]

Read reports that Thai girls in Chang Mai are more lighter skinned than southern Thai's.

So just wondering the facts here? Do they look more Vietnamese / Chinese in their appearance generally or is it just the skin colour.

To me many Thai's look a bit too "hard" in the face for me. Just a personal preference.

Appreciate feedback.

NI.

[Expat99]

I visit Thailand regularly, and this time I thought I'd stop by Chiangmai to see how much fun there is to be had. Well the short answer, as several have mentioned, is. Almost none! I read the reports on several sites, went to different places, and overall it's a complete disaster, especially compared to Bangkok where I had a blast as usual. There are massage places everywhere, but I have yet to see one attractive girl in any shop! The only decent girls are at the alley / boxing stadium, they're quite friendly but nothing like in Bangkok! The Tinder-like apps are also a waste of time, most girls who answer are ladyboys, massage girls, women in their 30's, or lazy, stuck up girls asking for money (and I'm not old or ugly! I'm not on ThaiFriendly, but unfortunately, and again like many have mentioned in the Bangkok forum, there has been a clear decline in the women's *attitude* herein this country (and others) compared to 10-20 years ago. Will check out a couple more places, but overall want to confirm what others have said and to skip CM for mongering.

[Beno69]

... Well the short answer, as several have mentioned, is. Almost none! I read the reports on several sites, went to different places, and overall it's a complete disaster....

Exactely, the only place, still OK but no more great like 10 years ago is Sayuri.

[JamesFR]

Hi,

My first post here, to contribute, because I found (again) very valuable info.

I'm French (sorry for my English), 50 something, I know Thailand since 17 years, and have been living here a lot.

Not a monger actually. I prefer a girlfriend. But I go sometimes to look for a good experience.

I like quality, and IMO it's more and more difficult to find here.

Daisuki is a nice place, thanks for those who mentioned it.

I can confirm the many positives, not so common nowadays:

- Original (so only for those who read the book from Nabokov. Just kidding. But amazing book though).

- Good reception, management which really take care of quality and customer satisfaction, not common.

- Good building, large room, clean.

- Coconut oil witch is really good for you I mean it, no bad oil sticking on your dick, way more healthy. Coconut oil is the must. Well done again.

- And well the point is the girls are 1-Pretty, 2-Willing to please. Very good attitude (not common again).

It's HJ only, and to get the girl to undress you pay more (if she does, some reviews say some don't).

Prices standard for quality (of course you find dirty cheap elsewhere without all those quality) : 400 oil massage 1 h, but 500 only for 1.5 h. +500 for HJ but no take off / touching witch is a waste IMO, so +1000 you get the pretty young girl undressing, you can touch, and she makes you happy with hands.

No issue whatsoever with time / rush, with crazy A/C, etc. She want to make you happy, much appreciated I would say nowadays.

Honestly, I don't go many time to girl-places, and rarely I go back more than once. This place is quality, I plan to go many times.

I like massage and HJ / play / touching, maybe not everybody of course.

So typically you can have 1.5 h good massage, HJ no rush, very pretty girl naked, for 1500.1 hour and half I must repeat, and pretty and good attitude, I like the deal.

Today I even tried the 4 hands. Well that was something! First time for me. 2 very pretty girls naked, 2 h, 2 shots, friendly: well yep here 3400 (1400 2 h 4 hands + HJ-Undress tips 1000 x 2), very good deal IMO.

Really pretty bodies, really pretty! No marks, no fat. 21 and 22 yo. Cool girls.

I can recommend number 1 and number 7, two sisters one tall one small (but big boobs and good skills), but I think they are almost all good, thanks again too to the management.

Enjoy.


I've been living in Santitam for a while, it's a nice area not far from everything. One day, I walk around and see this new place. It's called Daisuki or something.

The logo looked a bit different from the usual boring Thai massage pictures with a lady laying down and massage fingers on her back that you see everywhere in Chiang Mai, they all copy that from the internet. So I decide to go in.

A beautiful receptionist greets me in perfect English. I ask her if the place is for massage, stupid question of course, that was already written on the outside.

She says yes, hands me the menu. This is not the usual menu I see everywhere, my intuition was right, this is a different place...

[Arthur Tick]

Hi,

My first post here, to contribute, because I found (again) very valuable info.

I'm French (sorry for my English), 50 something, I know Thailand since 17 years, and have been living here a lot.

Not a monger actually. I prefer a girlfriend. But I go sometimes to look for a good experience.

I like quality, and IMO it's more and more difficult to find here.

Daisuki is a nice place, thanks for those who mentioned it.

I can confirm the many positives, not so common nowadays:

- Original (so only for those who read the book from Nabokov. Just kidding. But amazing book though).

- Good reception, management which really take care of quality and customer satisfaction, not common.

- Good building, large room, clean.

- Coconut oil witch is really good for you I mean it, no bad oil sticking on your dick, way more healthy. Coconut oil is the must. Well done again.

- And well the point is the girls are 1-Pretty, 2-Willing to please. Very good attitude (not common again).

It's HJ only, and to get the girl to undress you pay more (if she does, some reviews say some don't).

Prices standard for quality (of course you find dirty cheap elsewhere without all those quality) : 400 oil massage 1 h, but 500 only for 1.5 h. +500 for HJ but no take off / touching witch is a waste IMO, so +1000 you get the pretty young girl undressing, you can touch, and she makes you happy with hands.

No issue whatsoever with time / rush, with crazy A/C, etc. She want to make you happy, much appreciated I would say nowadays.

Honestly, I don't go many time to girl-places, and rarely I go back more than once. This place is quality, I plan to go many times..This post reads like a brochure promoting explanation for this place.

According to some of the reviews on CM Locator, the service customers receive is the luck of the draw. Some of the massages are good, some are not, some girls will go naked, others don't and so on. I guess a lot depends on the experience of the staff, whether she likes a customer or not and what mood they're in, but sex definitely not on the menu that makes it clear in their ad and just another glorified HJ establishment. NOTE: THE SHOP DOES NOT PROVIDE BODY-TO-BODY MASSAGES AND DOES NOT PROVIDE SEXUAL SERVICES.

There are so many of these HJ parlours operating around Chiang Mai now that the competition is becoming intense, although in my opinion, all are still well overpriced.

If you're satisfied with just some titillation seeing a naked girl, finishing with a HJ for a substantial fee, then do shop around for the best deals. Now it's the low season in Chiang Mai, some are going a bit further and unofficially have girls offering FS and the prices in these parlours vary greatly.

If deciding to visit one of the HJ parlours, talk to the receptionist first and ask what`s on offer and your desires. Ask which girls will cater for your requirements and roughly how much they charge. Also if the parlour has a Line address, it may be possible to contact the owners on there for your inquiries.

[Zjfgdb]

Is there any scene in Muang Mae Hong Son?

Visit there several times and go around the city, a quiet city and could not find anything.

But I hear some guys said that there are some scenes in Mae Hong Son and Mae Sariang. Can you fellow guys give my tips?

[Forever69]

Is there any scene in Muang Mae Hong Son?

Visit there several times and go around the city, a quiet city and could not find anything.

But I hear some guys said that there are some scenes in Mae Hong Son and Mae Sariang. Can you fellow guys give my tips?Get a tuk tuk. Ask for karaoke. Last time 7 was there I saw 2 or 3 in mhs.

[Forever69]

Is there any scene in Muang Mae Hong Son?

Visit there several times and go around the city, a quiet city and could not find anything.

But I hear some guys said that there are some scenes in Mae Hong Son and Mae Sariang. Can you fellow guys give my tips?Get a tuk tuk. Ask for karaoke. Last time I was there I saw 2 or 3 in mhs.

[Arthur Tick]

Get a tuk tuk. Ask for karaoke. Last time I was there I saw 2 or 3 in mhs.Bad advice.

Don't get a tuk tuk if relying on the driver to take you to any adult entertainment venues.

The tuk tuk drivers receive commissions from certain hotels and adult establishments for bringing them customers, the commissions are then discretely added to the customers' bills.

[Franciscass]

Bad advice.

Don't get a tuk tuk if relying on the driver to take you to any adult entertainment venues.

The tuk tuk drivers receive commissions from certain hotels and adult establishments for bringing them customers, the commissions are then discretely added to the customers' bills.Good advice Arthur in the larger cities but for a stranger in Mae Hong Son what's the alternative. Its not like there are flashing neon signs over the doors or girls pulling you in off the street.

[Crocodilexp]

Bad advice.

Don't get a tuk tuk if relying on the driver to take you to any adult entertainment venues.

The tuk tuk drivers receive commissions from certain hotels and adult establishments for bringing them customers, the commissions are then discretely added to the customers' bills.

Indeed. In my experience, when it comes to finding pfp venues, local transport guys are not nearly as helpful as one would expect them to be. Sometimes, they don't know all the venues (not everyone is a monger), and more often, they don't want to show all the good ones (that is, low cost ones) to you, since they might not get the commission. Moreover, once you get charged the inflated price with commission, it would be difficult to get a proper price on a later visit, even if you come alone.

Much better to have directions or coordinates of the venue, and if you need transport, take it to somewhere nearby, then negotiate on your own.

[WorldPeaceNow]

This is my first time in Thailand and my first time in Chiang Mai. After reading the site thailandredcat for soapy massage, undecided to head over the Sayuri. There were three classes of girls. Just numbers for B2400, girls with name tags that started with M for B2600 and lastly the prettiest ones with name tags starting with SL for B3000. Service lasts for an hour. I liked couple of girls in the M section and the SL. However, I was too late to act and lost them. To add to the disappointment, they also left after their sessions. Didn't like anyone else so decided to go to Celeb CNX as that was touted as brand new massage parlor with modern rooms.

When I got there at 8 pm, it was dead empty. The rates here were significantly different. Two tiers of girls. The ones on the right, when facing the fish bowl, were B1600 and the ones to the left were B1900. Papasan told me I should go with #42 (B1600). I told him I like slim women with at least a BB. He said she has big boobs and she provides good service. An utter lie!. She had an A cup, thanks to her massively padded bra and her service was atrocious. As mechanical as it gets! I was upset enough that I didn't even bother kissing. Her blow job was covered and lasted for 2 minutes. The only thing she did well was bathing me.

Don't ever go to this place guys. Bunch of liars.

Also, where did I go wrong? Celeb seems to be quite popular. Is it because I chose a B1600 girl? Should I not listen to Papasan touting a girl? I was actually interested in a B1900 girl with big boobs but he told me she has silicone and steered me to #42.

Any tips on navigating the soapy scene will be appreciated.

Cheers.

[Crocodilexp]

Should I not listen to Papasan touting a girl?

Of course you should not listen to papasans / mamasans, unless you're a regular. You're a tourist monger he sees for the first time and will likely never see again, you're not paying him after the act, so why would he make a good recommendation? He does, however, have a strong incentive to first make sure you actually pick someone rather than just leaving (and say whatever it takes to get there), and as second priority make sure all girls get their turn.

If anything, a typical papasan has every reason to steer you towards less popular girls, meaning uglier and with less good service, thus fewer regulars. In the bars, they also insert themselves into a price negotiation to make the price higher and get their cut, it always works out higher than the minimum price the girl would be willing to give. If you aren't friends with them, do the exact opposite of what they say.

[Arthur Tick]

This is my first time in Thailand and my first time in Chiang Mai. After reading the site thailandredcat for soapy massage, undecided to head over the Sayuri. There were three classes of girls. Just numbers for B2400, girls with name tags that started with M for B2600 and lastly the prettiest ones with name tags starting with SL for B3000. Service lasts for an hour. I liked couple of girls in the M section and the SL. However, I was too late to act and lost them. To add to the disappointment, they also left after their sessions. Didn't like anyone else so decided to go to Celeb CNX as that was touted as brand new massage parlor with modern rooms.

When I got there at 8 pm, it was dead empty. The rates here were significantly different. Two tiers of girls. The ones on the right, when facing the fish bowl, were B1600 and the ones to the left were B1900. Papasan told me I should go with #42 (B1600). I told him I like slim women with at least a BB. He said she has big boobs and she provides good service. An utter lie!. She had an A cup, thanks to her massively padded bra and her service was atrocious. As mechanical as it gets! I was upset enough that I didn't even bother kissing. Her blow job was covered and lasted for 2 minutes. The only thing she did well was bathing me..To be honest, it's best to avoid all those so-called soapy massage dives, where no massage is involved.

The now Celeb, is run by or used to be run by the same mob that used to run the soapy massage at the Chiang Mai 2000 hotel in the Nimmon area a few years back.

The Papasan was a nice guy, had a wooden leg and as I can speak some reasonable Thai, would haggle down to the Thai price of 900 baht, but the prices you have mentioned have now reached ridiculous levels. They really have got greedy.

The whole deal is totally mechanical, involving lots of tissues, fast and furious. It's simply not value for the money and the girls are not trained in customer satisfaction. So I got bored and haven't visited any of those places for the last 3 years.

You did not go wrong at all, it's become hit and miss and pot luck if you get a good one or not.

The CM monger scene is shite, and there is nothing good on offer.

[WorldPeaceNow]

Gentlemen,

Appreciate your feedback. OK, I'll ignore CM for mongering. My next stop is Bangkok. Any advice on the mongering scene there? I have three nights there and will be staying near Asoke. I've read all that I can about BKK. Frankly, I feel a bit overwhelmed with the various options and not clear which one will yield good value for money. For instance, are soapy massage parlors there also a rip off? Between freelancers, beer bar girls and gogo girls, are the freelancers better for a noob like me? I'm only looking for short term fun with a girl that piques my interest.

A bit if a background about me: I've been mongering in Germany for the last year or so and I'm quite familiar at this point with the scene there. So I'm not completely new to this trade.

[Zjfgdb]

Get a tuk tuk. Ask for karaoke. Last time I was there I saw 2 or 3 in mhs.It is hard to get a tuk tuk in Mae Hong Son and I only saw tuk tuk only once near the night market. Really a quite town.

I have visited Mae Hong Son for 2 times and tried to find out the scene.

I found three local karaokes in Mae Hong Son. Two are just next to the B2 hotel and another is near the bus station.

I have tried the karaoke on the right side of B2hotel but all were granny inside.

The one near bus station I saw some Thai guys inside, didn't go in.

I think there must be some curtain hotel around the town and want to get some tips.

[Zjfgdb]

This is my first time in Thailand and my first time in Chiang Mai. After reading the site thailandredcat for soapy massage, undecided to head over the Sayuri. There were three classes of girls. Just numbers for B2400, girls with name tags that started with M for B2600 and lastly the prettiest ones with name tags starting with SL for B3000. Service lasts for an hour. I liked couple of girls in the M section and the SL. However, I was too late to act and lost them. To add to the disappointment, they also left after their sessions. Didn't like anyone else so decided to go to Celeb CNX as that was touted as brand new massage parlor with modern rooms.I have tried several times in Celeb.

And the price is 1400,1600,1900 (if you can speak a little Thai).

The price 2400,2600,3000 is for farang tourists who don't know about the price.

Most of the girls in soapy have some miles. Don't expect that you can get very excellent service unless you are Lucky enough.

No need to pay tips, not worth it.

[Zjfgdb]

Indeed. In my experience, when it comes to finding pfp venues, local transport guys are not nearly as helpful as one would expect them to be. Sometimes, they don't know all the venues (not everyone is a monger), and more often, they don't want to show all the good ones (that is, low cost ones) to you, since they might not get the commission. Moreover, once you get charged the inflated price with commission, it would be difficult to get a proper price on a later visit, even if you come alone.

Much better to have directions or coordinates of the venue, and if you need transport, take it to somewhere nearby, then negotiate on your own.I agree with you. But as a stranger to Mae Hong Son, we don't know any directions or coordinates there. We must rely on a tuk tuk to help us find out the directions.

You can go with a tuk tuk at the first time and do not get any girls that day. And then go back yourself the next day.

[Arthur Tick]

My review:

With today's modern technology, even women offering sexual services are now taking their business online.

For example, it's s much simpler, like ordering a takeaway meal from a restaurant online. There are no middle people involved if the girls are freelance, and for the customers, no need to visit beerbars and for guys to buy drinks, pay bar fines, especially for guys like me who due to stomach problems can't drink and not into the bar scene and bored with the mechanical so-called B2B parlours and soapies with hyped up prices or the ridiculous prices charged if hiring girls from escort agencies and most of those girls are not based in Chiang Mai. Have to order one up from Bangkok. Also, the Chiang Mai sections of online dating sites such as Thai Friendly have virtually no girls outright offering sexual services and it all becomes a big hassle, time-consuming and maybe lots of messaging back and forth to discover if a girl is up for it or not.

As regarding the Dek sideline girls, these services are mostly reserved for Thais, and unless able to speak, read and type in fluent Thai, then there is little chance or being able to communicate with those girls. Also, machine translations are not much use because many of the girls use Thai slang words that do not translate.

This is not the case in other areas of Thailand, from Bangkok and Pattaya where girls are openly advertising exactly what they're offering, including on craigslist and Thai Friendly. In-fact freelance girls are in abundance on the Bangkok, Pattaya and other sections of craigslist, but once clicking on the Chiang Mai sections on craigslist the hot girls disappear and are replaced by ladyboys, gay old perverts and weirdos.

There is a new website called, S*uT. Zone, that has replaced the site, Backpage, with loads of hot girls but does not cover Chiang Mai.

So now in this technological age of the 21st century where many transactions are taking place online these days, it seems Chiang Mai has been left out in the cold. I would much rather be able to answer an ad placed by girls and be able to negotiate a price, a time and what I want than visit a mechanical B2B where the prices are set and what the girls do are set with strict time limitations.

I have no idea why there are virtually no freelance girls online in Chiang Mai that cater for Farangs as there are in other areas of Thailand and why in my opinion the Chiang Mai monger scene has become so limited and for what there is, is very expensive and a lot of effort needs to be placed into it that may lead nowhere.

Whether or not this will change in the future and the sexual encounter websites will stop giving Chiang Mai a miss, I'm not sure, but I am sure this is the crux of the matter that has turned the CM monger scene to crap.

[CIMguy]

I decided to go here for a soapy massage and have a bit of a mixed review. First, it was spelled Zayuri in my map app and I think maybe at the location. So beware of that.

I had choices between three type of girls. Soapy and sex was 2000 for the lower end girls. The middle tier was sex only for 2500. And the upper tier was 3000 for sex only. I asked about massage and they said not for the upper girls. I guess they are trying to entice guys to take the lower girls, but I didn't find any of them attractive. (On a side note, I feel a little bas about this. It must be pretty terrible to be labelled a low tier girl and then have everyone pass you by). I went with a beautiful upper tier girl for 3000 because I really wanted sex with a pretty girl and because I knew I would only have time to get out twice so I didn't mind paying the extra. The girl was very sweet and gave a nice BBBJ. She was skinny and probably an A cup, but she was still shapely and really lovely in all other ways. WE then moved to see and this is where it got a little more tricky. She kept saying I was too big and acting like I hurt her, especially when doing her doggy. I'm really not that big, so I feel like she was just trying to control everything and keep it low key. In fact, after we were done, she said I was her first farang in months because she doesn't like big guys. She said she thought I was smaller because I had small hands. I think I have average-sized hands and penis, so the whole thing was a bit weird. Anyway, I gave her a nice tip because I had the extra money and she was sweet and I wonder if that helped set me up for night two.

I decided to go back to Sayuri because I couldn't find a better place and my first experience was 95% pleasant. This time there were two girls who I saw from the top tier. I asked about one, but she wouldn't go with me because she doesn't do farangs. I'm glad she didn't because the second girl was exactly what I wanted. She was prettier than I thought once she got her clothes off and she gave me a massage for free because she knew I had asked the gentleman upstairs if any of the top tier girls would do soapy. I think he recognized me from a few days before and maybe he had heard I was nice to the other girl. I don't know, but I seemed to get extra good treatment from everyone. I did joke around with him a bit, so maybe that helped. Anyway, she gave me an excellent BBBJ and the hopped up on me. She was really wet and slid right down on me. There was lots of kissing and some passionate stuff. She moved REALLY well and seemed to be aroused. I asked her about CIM or COF and she initially said no, but I prodded her one more time and offered extra money and she said yes. It was an extra 1000, but that's only like $30, which is less than what it costs in Berlin or most other places. She did COF and giggled and was fun about it. She hinted about going for round two, but I had to meet some people and didn't want anyone to know I was out scoring with the local girls for money.

So, it does eem like the scene is limited in CM, but I'm not going to complain about my experience there. $100 the first night and $130 the second night for two very pretty girls and good to excellent service. Maybe I got lucky. But I think you can tell a lot about someone by the first eye contact and if they smile, etc. I would also suggest asking the guy upstairs which girl will give good service and be friendly with him.

[Franciscass]

I decided to go here for a soapy massage and have a bit of a mixed review. First, it was spelled Zayuri in my map app and I think maybe at the location. So beware of that.

I had choices between three type of girls. Soapy and sex was 2000 for the lower end girls. The middle tier was sex only for 2500. And the upper tier was 3000 for sex only. I asked about massage and they said not for the upper girls. I guess they are trying to entice guys to take the lower girls, but I didn't find any of them attractive. (On a side note, I feel a little bas about this. It must be pretty terrible to be labelled a low tier girl and then have everyone pass you by). I went with a beautiful upper tier girl for 3000 because I really wanted sex with a pretty girl and because I knew I would only have time to get out twice so I didn't mind paying the extra. The girl was very sweet and gave a nice BBBJ. She was skinny and probably an A cup, but she was still shapely and really lovely in all other ways. WE then moved to see and this is where it got a little more tricky. She kept saying I was too big and acting like I hurt her, especially when doing her doggy. I'm really not that big, so I feel like she was just trying to control everything and keep it low key. In fact, after we were done, she said I was her first farang in months because she doesn't like big guys. She said she thought I was smaller because I had small hands. I think I have average-sized hands and penis, so the whole thing was a bit weird. Anyway, I gave her a nice tip because I had the extra money and she was sweet and I wonder if that helped set me up for night two..So refreshing to read a post on Chiangmai which is not a sad depressing apocalyptic landscape of doom and gloom where the wandering farang slowly dies from sex starvation.

[Arthur Tick]

So refreshing to read a post on Chiangmai which is not a sad depressing apocalyptic landscape of doom and gloom where the wandering farang slowly dies from sex starvation.Did you read the whole post and take in the prices.

If anyone is willing to pay all that they must be either sexually deprived or made of money. Better to hook up with one of the girls advertising in the craigslist Bangkok section or Thai Friendly Bangkok section and take a plane to Bangkok and at least get your money's worth.

[CIMguy]

Did you read the whole post and take in the prices.

If anyone is willing to pay all that they must be either sexually deprived or made of money. Better to hook up with one of the girls advertising in the craigslist Bangkok section or Thai Friendly Bangkok section and take a plane to Bangkok and at least get your money's worth.I'm hardly sex starved and I work in education, so I am not rich. I was there for a conference, so I couldn't just hop a plane to another city. I don't know what the going rate is in Chaing Mai, but $100 for an hour with good service and a very pretty girl is not much in most parts of the world. Germany and Prague are both known as great mongering places and $100 is a pretty good price in those cities for what I got in Chiang Mai. Maybe it's just what you are accustomed to paying. I lived most of the last 10 years in Europe and $100 is very cheap in most of that continent. $100 is also pretty much the going rate in China. In the US and Canada, it is much higher.

So maybe it is your expectations that need to be adjusted? This isn't 2005 anymore. In any case, no need for the insults. I paid what I was comfortable paying based off of what I normally have had to pay. I enjoyed myself. It's a treat for me because I only do this 2-3 times a year, at the most. Sorry your cheapness is getting in the way of your good time.

[Forever69]

Just a sample.

[Arthur Tick]

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[Forever69]

What language is this? Looks like fluent BS.

This is just a Google translate that is so bad it may as well be in Greek.

Most of the girls on the Thai Deksideline sites are reluctant to deal with Farangs, because they prefer to keep their services discreet and not bring too much attention to themselves with concerns of being closed down by the police. Also, the machine translations are not good enough to hold literal text conversations in other languages.

I guess some posters have hospitality businesses within the city, mostly hiding behind Thai names. My reviews are probably considered bad for business, but facts are facts.

At this time due to stricter immigration rules, the strong baht which is creating an exodus of expats and a decline in tourism from the city, the hospitality sectors are really struggling, yet they're still greedy and instead of squeezing the golden goose they are killing it off completely by offering a load of crap for inflated prices. They are still using the supply and demand logic, whereas because the CM monger scene has so few options for westerners they believe is an opportunity to fleece the customers.

This year I visited Vietnam and girls were approaching me. Getting all nighters for 1500 baht. Soon off to Cambodia for some real girly action. I certainly would not waste my time in Chiang Mai when there is better and more value for money elsewhere.The girl is 25. She is beautiful. I can fuck her for little money. Whether she speaks english or not does not matter because my cock is in her mouth.

I thought this is what you want?

What do do you care about language?

The language of the pussy is truly international.

[Franciscass]

Some members usually old timers been around for a while get disillusioned with the scene. Never a good word from them. Continuously whine and ***** about this and that everything from changes in immigration to how bad P4P has become. No sir not like the good ole days when you got a GFE shag from a cute 20 year for a 1000 Baht who stayed overnight and did your washing before she went home in the morning. Now everybody is a rip off merchant charging exorbitant prices and the girls couldn't give a rat's ass about pleasing customers. All I can say is I have lived here for over 20 years and while I have slowed down and don't indulge as much as I used to I still find it magic no matter what city I am in. My advice to the sad souls who bemoan the passing of time is to look within themselves and ask is it the scene that has changed or is it me.

[CIMguy]

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[Forever69]

It is true that if you stay in Chiang mai longer it works much better to establish relationships with some professionals. Once you jumped through the hoop so to speak and she considers you a regular it's much easier. You can cut the BS.

My usual message to my girl is: fullmoon bar 6 pm ok? To which she replies either ok, or 6:30 or maybe not at all in which case I line another.

We meet, have a drink and then proceed to business. The first time I pay what they ask up to 2000. After that I offer less. Like :1500 ok?

I get really nice and personal service I can tell you. And while it is more money than in pattaya you also need to understand Their economy. Some girls sit here now for weeks without a single customer. If finally a guy is buying she cannot pay the bills with 100 bt. Chiang mai is more expensive than pattaya when it comes to the girls. But if you live here you have to add the travel cost into it hotels and so on. You have to romp a lot then to come out ahead financially. If you really disagree, move to greener coasts.

[Buksida1]

Some members usually old timers been around for a while get disillusioned with the scene. Never a good word from them. Continuously whine and ***** about this and that everything from changes in immigration to how bad P4P has become. No sir not like the good ole days when you got a GFE shag from a cute 20 year for a 1000 Baht who stayed overnight and did your washing before she went home in the morning. Now everybody is a rip off merchant charging exorbitant prices and the girls couldn't give a rat's ass about pleasing customers. All I can say is I have lived here for over 20 years and while I have slowed down and don't indulge as much as I used to I still find it magic no matter what city I am in. My advice to the sad souls who bemoan the passing of time is to look within themselves and ask is it the scene that has changed or is it me.Amen brother!

[Forever69]

Today I matched kung on tinder. She is very attractive and pointed out to me that her age was misrepresented and that she is 23.

About 5'3 and 110# not exactly skinny which is my preference but not fat at all. Easily 8 in the face.

I quickly went through the motion and got her Line. I found out she works at the bar on loi kroh and after some back and forth picked her up 5 pm, no fine, obviously. I had told her I would pay 1500.

Coming to 7/11 at Chiang mai land I found out she doesn't drink. At least not today.

I got some for myself and we proceeded. She has a beautiful body with some tats, athletic, a gap, nice ****, small tits.

Excellent attitude. Not shy she let's me look and touch, gets out 3 condoms, and begins to follow directions. Not surprisingly I got stuck in 69 . She took it all in. Very nice overall interaction before and after. CIM with no comment! WOW.

Almost managed the chinese dragon.

Later paid 1500 and offered to take her back but she preferred grab.

Thanked me profusely later on Line. I am sure the rules will relax next time for me. This is how it works in Chiang msi a. T. !

Show respect. Admire youth. Pay a little. Be patient when using translate. Don't hesitate the first time. This is very important. Once they know you you just call the shots. Know the price. Be confident but friendly and look generous. Don't rush! Brush! Really. Personal hygiene is very important in Thailand. You can be late but you must not be smelly.
Will not repeat as there is so much more. But had to check it out.
I'm 65 btw and I do not speak thai
Interestingly she told me there would be no kissing.but cim was very welcome?anybody please explain! That's like:I have the period but you can do my ass instead. ???

[Allover]

Then I come to tell you my wonderful experience with this girl, the appointment today in the morning at the motel love wings at 11 amNice report Diego. I'll have to look this girl up next time I make it to Monterrey, Mexico.

[TJ321]

Wow, I hit paydirt here.

The lady was late to work and showed up just as I was walking by. I was her first (and probably only) customer of the day. She was hot as hell. Really skinny, beautiful and no sign of ever having had a penis attached to her.

We agreed to an oil massage. I laid down on the bed with my underwear on based on most massage places here preferring that. She asked me if I was shy and asked me to take them off. I would like to add that I'm not Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, but most of these ladies would probably fuck me for free anyway. I just enjoy the hobby.

She gave my legs a massage and then started lightly touching my dick. She asked if I wanted a hand job or more, like boom boom. I said sure. We haggled for a bit on price and settled on 2500 thb.

She asked me to take her clothes off. Man was she hot. We played around a little bit and she let me DATY. For a while. She let me do FIV and she came a couple times. She then begged me to fuck her.

On with the cover (dammit) and we started off mish. Then to doggy. She even let me put my thumb in her ass a little ways and seemed to get really turned on by it.

Because of the cover, she had to finish me off handy because I just can't dump in a condom.

YMMV but my mileage was great.

[TJ321]

Had a great experience here. Walked in and there was a fish bowl of ladies. Probably 25 of them. The ugliest (and cheapest) on the right to the hottest on the left (not behind glass by the way). I picked the hottest one and for 1800 thb was taken to a room.

She gave me a bath, massaged me, blow job and sex in 3 positions. Condoms aren't my thing, so I had her finish me off with a handy.

I highly recommend this place.

[TJ321]

More expensive than Sayuri and the girls are more dinged up. Papasan is much pudgier. Just go to Sayuri.

[TConor]

One shot and 2. 5 k? Seemed like you got fucked 555.


Wow, I hit paydirt here.

The lady was late to work and showed up just as I was walking by. I was her first (and probably only) customer of the day. She was hot as hell. Really skinny, beautiful and no sign of ever having had a penis attached to her.

We agreed to an oil massage. I laid down on the bed with my underwear on based on most massage places here preferring that. She asked me if I was shy and asked me to take them off. I would like to add that I'm not Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, but most of these ladies would probably fuck me for free anyway. I just enjoy the hobby.

She gave my legs a massage and then started lightly touching my dick. She asked if I wanted a hand job or more, like boom boom. I said sure. We haggled for a bit on price and settled on 2500 thb.

She asked me to take her clothes off. Man was she hot. We played around a little bit and she let me DATY. For a while. She let me do FIV and she came a couple times. She then begged me to fuck her.

On with the cover (dammit) and we started off mish. Then to doggy. She even let me put my thumb in her ass a little ways and seemed to get really turned on by it.

Because of the cover, she had to finish me off handy because I just can't dump in a condom.

YMMV but my mileage was great.

[TJ321]

One shot and 2. 5 k? Seemed like you got fucked 555.I did feel like I got pretty good service for the money. Better than I would have gotten in the states and a hell of a lot cheaper.

[Buksida1]

I read an interesting report online about Absolute Paradise Massage and hotel, so I thought that I would give it a try. It is located in an old, derelict building named Paradise hotel. Behind the Lanna Palace Hotel and 100 yards down the street from the Orthodox Christian church. In deconstruction the hotel is a mess but has an indoor swimming pool that looks clean and functioning. Walk up through the mess to the second floor and you will see the sign massage. A huge Thai guy explained the service to me. 1200 baht for 45 minutes and 1600 baht for 80 minutes. He told me that accompanied shower, body to body oil massage and hand job are included. He brought out 5 women in different clothes and introduced them. I chose a smaller lady in high heels and a nice red dress. They appeared to be late twenties to early thirties. Three were presentable another wore jeans and another in Salvation army clothes. I sat for a few moments and my the girl came to take me down to the room. The room is very small with a moldy shower, broken tile, everything is ready for the junk yard. She told me that she is 27 and I believed her. A very calm and happy lady about 45 kilos and quite cute with long hair and tiny boobs. She did the body slide very nicely and was a pro hand job artist and I enjoyed her service. Only condom blow job and no full service. Every girl has a different menu so you could ask the boss if you want more. Repeat. No. I do not like run down buildings and shitty rooms. Probably the opposite of Absolute Paradise but I liked the girl.

[Crocodilexp]

I did feel like I got pretty good service for the money. Better than I would have gotten in the states and a hell of a lot cheaper.That's like saying you enjoyed the beach better than you would have in Alaska and hell of a lot warmer.

[Gajith]

Hello guys,

Please advise me precautions meeting a lady boy. A super cute ladyboy forcing me to meet her at her place. I am normally not interested in ladyboys but this time I really feel like meeting her.

She is super cute and difficult to identify if she is trans or original lady.

TIA / G.

[Crocodilexp]

Please advise me precautions meeting a lady boy. A super cute ladyboy forcing me to meet her at her place. I am normally not interested in ladyboys but this time I really feel like meeting her.Ladyboys will almost always tell you they're ladyboys if you ask directly, though they might not tell you if you don't ask. They don't want to waste time or even get into a dangerous situation with a guy who dislikes them.

Not sure what advice you need, if you like that ladyboy, go for it and meet, she won't grape you. No special precautions are needed, perhaps try not to wear fancy jewelry or have huge amounts of cash with you, but applies in most situations. By all means wear a condom, ladyboys who receive anal sex are at a higher risk of HIV than genetic females.

[RohitMalhotra1]

Chiang Mai is definitely not the type of place where you can bar hop endlessly into the morning and then smooci a hooker back to your room if you are unable to score. Admittedly, I did try the RTFF but did not have any hope as such. I googled and found some interesting places which have not been mentioned in the forum (at least the few initial pages that I went for, pardon me if I am repeating my knowledge here).

For the uninitiated, Chiang Mai has very limited options for freelancers / Thaifriendly or otherwise. I one friendly report on a punter website which suggested freelancers at Zoe Club and neighbouring bars. Having just reached from Bangkok around 10 pm, I finished off the stewed pork leg (not nice as last time plus the cowboy lady was not to be seen on the three days I visited), hopped to the North Co-Op Jazz bar. What was surprising for me is the number of middle aged Farang guys in tourist clothes chilling with Thai ladies (Early 30's) and definitely did not seem WG as per their attire. Maybe Chiang Mai does need longer than a quick Bang Bang Bye Bye Ma'am kinda setup. Do definitely check out North Co-Opp Jazz if you are into new age / mix Jazz. Great vibe.

Scooted over to Zoe in Yellow and I was disappointed by the size. It is a small bar with smaller dancing area which was packed to the hilt. Definitely lot more of WG but with young farangs who seemed mostly the backpacking types (vest and shorts). Dude, I needed a break from this and went over to a Reggae bar for a beer. More chilled out place but great vibes and NO WG here. I was waiting for midnight as the crowd shifts from Zoe to Spicy which is a 10 min walk. At midnight Zoe started winding down and crowd started moving towards Spicy. Spicy is like a mini disco bar with good pop / EDM / Trance mix and definitely lot more WGs compared to Zoe. Unfortunately this place was swamped with tourist farangs and korean / japs as well who seemed to have scored favourably beforehand. Not my night.

Exited Spicy at around 2. 15 am when the club closes and went to a bus bar next door. Cheap drinks and eyed a looker sitting across but with a Mexican man. I was bit drunk so approached her and said Hi to her, nonetheless. She said Hi and I gave her my phone. She dialled her number and gave back the phone to me. I got wasted more and went back to my hotel room. Next day morning, I woke up to a Thai number ringing on my phone. I picked up and she was the girl from last night. Evidently, she doesn't remember sharing her number. Cutting the chase, asked her to meet for dinner at 8 pm. She said she will come to my hotel first and then go for dinner. Meanwhile we kept chatting away throughout the day on WA. She came to my hotel in a black dress with red heels and red lipstick. She didn't look Thai at all as the hotel usher, receptionist and taxi driver were all talking in English to her. She look bit of Moroccan / Arab mix with Thai. Its surprising as both her parents are Thai and she is originally from Samui. Anyway, we headed for dinner at a place called Riverside and enjoyed some good food and music. I was bit hungover and lack of sleep so settled for iced coffee and the lady had glass of wine. Food was good and the night was still young, so I suggested to go a nice Thai bar (Nopahburi) for some cocktails. We had 4 cocktails among us and went to Spicy for a dance and music. She didn't have anything there and I had my usual Chang. Danced for a bit and left Spicy at 2. She had parked her car at my hotel (Which I think was a bluff till I saw it in the morning) and I wasn't sure if I should bring up the topic at all. Fortunately, she came in to the hotel room and went for a shower. Came out, I went for a shower and headed to the bed. Made out quite passionately for about 20-25 minutes which included DATY, BBBJ and fuck. She was very horny and wet and seemed to be having a good time. Put on see and fucked her doggy. She had a nice fleshy round ass and no pregnancy mark although I must admit here that she wasn't young. Maybe 34-35 but her pussy felt bit tight for me. Cuddled and slept again. Morning woke up with a boner which she proceeded with a nice BBBJ and I didn't do DATY but she was sufficiently wet. Fucked her in missionary and WOT. Slept off again for sometime while she went for her shower. Quickly changed, showered and ready to check out. She said she will drop me to other hotel (as the current hotel was booked and I couldn't extend my stay). She pulled in a Pajero (not cheap I guess in Thailand). She dropped me to my hotel and whisked away. No money discussed or paid other than 1500 baht for food and drinks. She met at 9 pm and stayed till 12 noon. I guess I got lucky.

Next day, tried my luck again at Sangdee Gallery (recommended by a drunk waiter at Drinksmith & Co. Good place for cocktails) but it was too shady with lot of tourist crowd and no thai girls. Skipped over to Spicy and eyed two three good girls but I guess they were either not interested or with someone (already from Zoe or other place, not sure). Figured a new place called Las Vegas exists walking distance from Spicy. Super shady and smelly but packed to brim with FLs and farangs. Since it was my last night supposedly so didn't bother picking up anyone and danced the night away. Suddenly eye this cute thick thai chick dancing away on a table alone. Started grinding her next couple of hours (till closing time of 5 am) and had lot of fun. We kissed couple of times in the club and she definitely felt my wood in her ass. Woohoo! Let's see how this night goes. Took her for dinner where we shared Pad Thai and Noodle Soup. I had got a tattoo done so she took me a 7-11 to help me buy body lotion (I didn't even ask but she was worried). Then she said she was going home as it was getting late, but I told her I like you and I would like to come with me. She was hesitant but I went down on one knee (what drama for sex) and she laughed away to my room. Fucked like two horny rabbits thrice in gap of 5 hours. She had a round bubble butt with too much flesh but a petite top body and some belly fat. She was game all three times and gave a decent blowjob (no DT but lot of saliva from her side). In the end, she told me it was her birthday tomorrow and wanted me to come. I said I have to fly out and I won't be. She said give me some money for birthday. Bummer! I thought I would have to negotiate since we didn't discuss money. I gave her 500 baht to test waters and she folded her hands and took money from me. She gave a deep FK and left the room. Shocker! Apparently, its a tradition where girls get money on their birthday in Thailand. Didn't know this and was confirmed by a bar girl from Loi Kroh. She showed me a photo where some guy gave her 5000 baht on her birthday in form of a garland.

Next time went to Loi Kroh hoping to get some action. Saw a cute Thai with a fleshy ass hawking for tourists to come into her bar. Went to the bar, played couple of rounds of silly games and then barfined her 500 baht + 1 lady drink. She could speak good english and was very cute at 5'2 with small tits and great ass. Went to spicy for couple of drinks and she wanted to drink more. Went back to another bar where mamasan, her and I played rounds of Rock, Paper, Scissors till about 4 am. She paid for some Jagger shots I paid for some beers. I think I paid about 500 baht and she pad 600 baht (which she received some money back from mamasan). Went to eat some food at night market and then dropped her home. I said if I could crash here as I was too drunk to go back (I was haha). Cutting the story short, went back to her room, got a BJ, she doesn't have condom, I was too tired to go out and get one from 7-11 so we made out for sometime till either one of us passed out (don't remember who passed out first). Got up around noon next day and left. Out of politeness I put 500 baht next to her phone.

That was beautiful Chiang mai for me! Lot of opportunities for Farangs as this place is not yet crowded by horny Korean / Japs as the market is not very big but I think I got lucky because I showed them I have money to spend for a good time but didn't pay for any sex time To some it may seem I did end up money on dinner and drinks but that's okay. I think I like to spend money on company as well as drinks, and sex could be thrown in for free or some money. I don't come to Thailand often (maybe once a year for 6-7 days) so this works out well. What can I say, I like GFE.

[Gajith]

Chiang Mai is definitely not the type of place where you can bar hop endlessly into the morning and then smooci a hooker back to your room if you are unable to score. Nice report dude. I was there in Chiang Mai 3 days back and it was my second time there. First Zoe in Yellow then Spicy is the regular route of party goers.

When I was there, even if the place is packed with white young people still at least 5 thai women available to talk and can take it further. I never tried to get someone because I met a beautiful massage girl and she was too much GFE.

The massage girl allowed me to do everything except fuck and DATY (I do it only to my virgin girls).

I have visited her place 2 times and both of the times I could get lot off kisses and could suck her nipples. She allowed me to finger her too. She even licked my dick, it was in her pure interest. I was very happy with her service. I prefer someone make me come than I do work hard myself. A kind of outsourcing mentality 😁.

Damages: First time, 500 for extra services. Second time 700 (I tipped her because I was leaving).

[RohitMalhotra1]

When I was there, even if the place is packed with white young people still at least 5 thai women available to talk and can take it further. I never tried to get someone because I met a beautiful massage girl and she was too much GFE.

Good going dude! All the best and keep sharing reports which can be shared and definitely no sharing of virgin girls. Keep them to yourself. *wink wink*. Aah I miss Thailand already!

[Gajith]

All the best and keep sharing reports which can be shared and definitely no sharing of virgin girls. !Hehe, no way I could find virgin girls in Thailand 😂 The virgin girls are located in Indonesia. They are fine with all kind of plays without the pussy being intact. They want to get married life and they say Indonesia men do care about virginity.

[Mostek6502]

Chiang Mai has very limited options for freelancers / Thaifriendly or otherwise. I one friendly report on a punter website which suggested freelancers at Zoe Club and neighbouring bars. Having just reached from Bangkok around 10 pm, I finished off the stewed pork leg (not nice as last time plus the cowboy lady was not to be seen on the three days I visited), hopped to the North Co-Op Jazz bar. What was surprising for me is the number of middle aged Farang guys in tourist clothes chilling with Thai ladies (Early 30's) and definitely did not seem WG as per their attire.

Scooted over to Zoe in Yellow and I was disappointed by the size.
Spend three months in CM, left last Tuesday (5th Nov), sadly, two stories here.

Loi Kroh was OK, the soi with the Mauy Thai at the end is ok, just ask, people know it. Getting a massage with a professional happy ending was well worth it, had a few of them. None of this flick of the wrist stuff, they were good, 1500 or so including a real massage.

Zoe in Yellow does have lots of farangs, and there are many bars clustered around there, but most are empty. Went into one bar and was told that none of the girls were bar-finable, but a very sweet girl sat next to the Swedish guy I was chatting with and smiled, so I excused myself and sat next to her. Mamasan told be it was her very first night and she was supposed to pick up empties and just sit and observe. She had absolutely no English what-so-ever, and mamasan then revealed that it was her niece and she had just arrived from Roi-et that afternoon. After talking with mamasan, she said "that I was a nice guy" and asked her if she wanted to go with me, she nodded shyly. We went to the hotel and she had absolutely no idea what was going on, sadly she was a bit of a starfish but her body was 9/10 and her face 8/10. The pleasure of admiring her beauty was almost enough. She had no idea how to translate on her phone and she thought she was going to stay the night, this was complicated. At 12:30 we got a tuk tuk and I took her back to the bar, but she was incredibly disoriented and was wandering around like a lost puppy. I followed from a distance, I could not abandon her. The bars were closed and around the back of the bar her aunt was waiting for her. We talked for about 30 minutes while the little lamb stood there and smiled. Mamasan gave her an old phone, she had never had a smart phone before. Was going to get her the following night, but other things happened.

Northgate Jazz is very good and there are lots of Korean and Japanese girls hanging around, if you are younger it might be worth a try. The only Korean girl I hit it off with was Christian, and said that she did not feel right about coming back to the hotel (solitary masturbation followed).

Went to Lily's massage down a small soi off the main road between the old city and the airport. The girls were cute but only one would take a farang and she said that al the other girls were terrified of huge farang dicks. It was not very good as she talked and behaved like a cheap working girl. 2300 baht, way too expensive.

[Domian 47]

There are several playes in CM I had fortune last winter. Lost Hut is a place where blues is played. Not so hippies as the North Jazz Club but much fun there. Nearby is a small bar (forget the name) where I got much fun several times with a nice MILF bar girl. Nearby by is a massage shop (Not Bamboo Massage, this is serious) I got a girl who kissed me with a tongue before getting a massage and she pulled off my slip. I took her to Pai for three days. I like CM very much, I am an older guy, been several times in Pattaya but meanwhile it is too loud for me. You can have the same fun in CM in a much calmer way IMO.

[EatALotOpus]

This is the first question ever. RTFF back to 7/2017 and no reference regarding Vitamin see. Anyone know if I can buy legit Cialis at the pharmacies without prescription?

I will be visiting for short time with a private local and will need some sustainability motivator. Thanks for the help.

[Crazy Ami]

Hi all,

First time in Chiang Mai, I live in Angeles City and am a frequent visitor to BKK and Pattaya, so after RTFF, was set to be disappointed going out here in Chiang Mai. I've gotten into a very comfortable rut in Angeles (I rarely barfine there, as I've gotten "in" to local contacts who provide me a steady stream of college girls / young professionals in need of some spending money), but no time to develop those routes here, so I decided to go a-hunting.

I'm staying in Nimman area on recommendation of a friend -- nice area, but a bit too "trendy" for me with wayyyy too many Instagram idiots. As a member of this site for 15 years, you can imagine the atmosphere I prefer :-)

Took a Grab car over to Loi Kroh this evening to scope out the action. Beer bars / Entertainment Complex are as described here in the forum. Friendly, but quality not as good as you might find in other Thai / Philippine hotspots. Nevertheless, I immediately felt more relaxed and in my comfort zone here!

Walked around a little bit and headed over to the "Foxy Lady" go-go bar. Smallish bar with one stage for about 5 girls, but had about 12-15 working / waiting around. Not many that fit my bill, but the staff was friendly, and the drinks were not "overpriced," as I saw on some of the Google reviews, at least for me coming most recently from Nana and Cowboy in BKK. They actually *undercharged* me for a drink; I had a Ballantines on the rocks which was quoted on the menu as B130, and only got charged B120. Good start to the evening.

After that, I walked through a couple of night markets and ended up at Celeb Shower Massage. I'd seen some iffy reviews on this site and elsewhere, but how I am I going to know for sure unless I check it out personally, right? So I got the attention of the doorman and walked right in (this is about 8:30-9 pm).

There were about 15 women in the fishbowl -- not fantastic, but some were not bad. Papasan sat next to me and asked if it was my first time. I said yes, to Celeb, but I'm familiar with the system from BKK and Pattaya. He quoted me the red / blue badge prices of 1600/1900 - pleasantly surprised to hear this, as I've seen reviewers at times quote higher, and after walking into La Belle in BKK last week and getting quoted 4,500-9,000, was happy to give it a try!

Chose a smaller / thinner woman, badge #12, for 1900 - mid-late 20's, A cups, nice little butt, no tattoos. She had no English, and I have very little to no Thai, but we managed quite well with sign language and gestures. Paid the cashier and went up by elevator to the third floor.

The room itself was acceptable. Some people may say "rundown," with an older TV playing porn, and a smallish bed compared to other places I've seen, but the bathtub was large, the water was hot, and the room itself was clean, if older. My only issue was that there was no toilet in the room. There was only one toilet room at the end of the hallway.

My lady was extremely attentive and pleasant throughout the whole experience. Gave me a nice, relaxing bath, then she took me to the bed, kissed me all over and brought me to attention before delivering an excellent CBJ (unusual in my experience) followed by the normal multiple positions. No actual "massage," but that's not really what you're going to places like this for, is it?

All in all, I was pleasantly surprised with Celeb and may go back before I head to Pattaya after New Years. I'd like to try Sayuri but it's a little farther out and I may just stick with Loi Kroh area and Celeb for my few days left here. With the price being only $20-30 higher than a Pattaya Soi 6 short time, and about the same price as the current AC Fields Avenue barfine, it's got an acceptable grade in my book.

On a side note, I'd also highly recommend the Israeli restaurant right next door to Celeb. The manager was super friendly, and the food was fantastic, along with some super strong Israeli coffee.

[Forever69]

This is the first question ever. RTFF back to 7/2017 and no reference regarding Vitamin see. Anyone know if I can buy legit Cialis at the pharmacies without prescription?

I will be visiting for short time with a private local and will need some sustainability motivator. Thanks for the help.Give grakcu (sic) a try.

Its sold as herbal, over the counter and has great reviews from the fda. Works too. Grakcu capsule 4 for 400 bt.

[XXL]

This is the first question ever. RTFF back to 7/2017 and no reference regarding Vitamin see. Anyone know if I can buy legit Cialis at the pharmacies without prescription?

I will be visiting for short time with a private local and will need some sustainability motivator. Thanks for the help.It is all over the place in Pattaya and Bangkok. I'd be surprised if it was not available in Chang Mai. However, "legit" and "in a pharmacy" may be too much to ask in Thailand for such things. ED drugs are street drugs here, literally.

[EatALotOpus]

XXL than you for the info.

Foreve69.


Give grakcu (sic) a try.

Its sold as herbal, over the counter and has great reviews from the fda. Works too. Grakcu capsule 4 for 400 bt.Thank you for the suggestion. Will give it a try.

[ThingStick]

Went to Daisuki Massage By Lolita for the hell of it. Had # 7. She was actually pretty cute and close to the photos, and ridiculously short. Massage was solid, too. Enjoyed myself. She offered extras at high prices due to the Corona Virus (pretty sure she knew nobody would take it but if they did / win win for her).

Overall, if I lived in Chiang Mai, I'd probably be going back here hooking some for sideline action. 8/10.

[L00PY]

XXL than you for the info.

Foreve69.

Thank you for the suggestion. Will give it a try.If you Google Grakcu the first hit from the FDA (https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/public-notification-grakcu-capsule-contains-hidden-drug-ingredients) says that it contains the active ingredients for Viagra and Cialis. I'd strongly recommend staying away from it and just walking into a pharmacy and asking for Cialis or its generic. At least you know the pharmacy item will be trying to give you near the listed dosage -- who knows what's in the "herbal" supplement.

[Forever69]

If you Google Grakcu the first hit from the FDA (https://www.fda.gov/drugs/medication-health-fraud/public-notification-grakcu-capsule-contains-hidden-drug-ingredients) says that it contains the active ingredients for Viagra and Cialis. I'd strongly recommend staying away from it and just walking into a pharmacy and asking for Cialis or its generic. At least you know the pharmacy item will be trying to give you near the listed dosage -- who knows what's in the "herbal" supplement.It becomes immediately clear that you don't live here.

[EatALotOpus]

As suggested by Forever69 I gave it a try. Walked in to the pharmacy and asked by name. Of course they did not know. Must to have been my Falang accent. Wrote the name down and I was pointed to a shelf with small gold boxes. 415 bht later I'm the proud owner of 6 green pills. Evaluation: Took an pill in Ibiza. Err pill about 45 minutes before. I was a rockstar. Lasted about 2 days. Did not immediately followed up to another one to see if it had some effects. None noted. Repeated about for days later, still no negative effects. So I'm a believer.

Enjoy.

[EatALotOpus]

Back in 2010 on my last day in Thailand I met a girl in BKK at Asok station selling refreshments. We kept in touch and when I visited couple years later she had leased land planting corn and other stuff, thus unable to meet. Visited again but had lost the contact as I had changed phones.

In preparation for this trip I installed Line just in case I will need any services. Up pops her name. Contacted her, got immediate video call and we took it from where we left it. Which was she coming to the airport kissing me goodbye 10 years ago. Since I was flying directly to CNX I about her a 74 dollar Air Asia ticket to come and meet me there. She arrived about 45 minutes after I cleared immigration. Smiles, hugs and all's well. Noticed little halitosis upon kissing but attributed it to midday and dry mouth. Checking into hotel and after shower and couple hours of rest I'm ready to try it. The good points: very responsive and the smallest hole I ever entered. So small that was creating friction even with her own lube and my spit. Her claim was she had not had a the&#k for over Fifteen years. That was tight and by no means because I'm big. Just average Joe. The bad things. As I went down on her she has a little smell but her responsiveness allowed my to keep focused on the task at hand. Second day the same. At night I used that Gracku, (read my feedback report) and tore into her. Next morning we stir awake and as she rearranged the cover to come next to me there was an unbearable stench. Not sure if I smelled what I thought I smelled I rearranged the covers again. This time there was no mistake. There was a smell of a rotten pu$$y. Immediately I went to the bathroom for a breath of fresh air.

Not know how to handle it I tried to say it as gentle as possible and I politely asked her if she has an infection. She asked why and I told her there's a smell down there. My face must've betrayed me because she ran to the toilet and after a while came back with crying eyes telling me that I hurt her feelings. I didn't hear the water running when she went to the toilet. However I had noticed the the soap was not getting used at all. She had not bring any of hers others that toothpaste. Not sure if she ever used the soap. Needless to say the next two days nothing happened. This was not pay for play event. Money was never discussed as she is upper middle class and drives a near new Toyota SUV. Obviously all the expenses were mine. I had brought her some gifts and chocolates and prior to our departure I gave her a crisp $100. She asked me to add another BHT2000. Told her NO. She insisted on coming with me till I checked in before she went for her flight. I uninstalled Line.

[Crocodilexp]

Next morning we stir awake and as she rearranged the cover to come next to me there was an unbearable stench. Not sure if I smelled what I thought I smelled I rearranged the covers again. This time there was no mistake. There was a smell of a rotten pu$$y. Immediately I went to the bathroom for a breath of fresh air.I'm not doctor, but bad pussy smell could be due to a range of medical issue, many of which are simply not her fault, and do not necessarily indicate poor hygiene.

For example, a girl I used to see many years back had a cyst / benign tumor which caused a horrid smell, and the situation got much better after she had it removed. You should definitely ask your friend to get a checkup, or even take her to a doctor, she'll be thanking you later.

Unfortunately, even the thought of a horrid smell reappearing (from either the mouth or vagina) dampens the passion for me, so it's possible you won't be back to eager shagging, but if you see her as a friend, it's a good idea to help her fix the issue.

[EatALotOpus]

I'm not doctor, but bad pussy smell could be due to a range of medical issue, many of which are simply not her fault, and do not necessarily indicate poor hygiene.

For example, a girl I used to see many years back had a cyst / benign tumor which caused a horrid smell, and the situation got much better after she had it removed. You should definitely ask your friend to get a checkup, or even take her to a doctor, she'll be thanking you later.

Unfortunately, even the thought of a horrid smell reappearing (from either the mouth or vagina) dampens the passion for me, so it's possible you won't be back to eager shagging, but if you see her as a friend, it's a good idea to help her fix the issue.That's how I presented it to her but she took it very personal.

I have deleted her from all my apps but she still had my email and sent me one yesterday saying I was very mean. But nothing about visiting a doctor.

The tightest and Stinkiest P of my life.

[KPower]

When I was in Chiang Mai back in mid March I searched a bunch of forums to see where to get some action. It was pretty slow in the area. Tried Zoe in Yellow but was super empty and I'm not much of a beer drinker so left. Ended up at Foxy Lady where there was only another customer. Girls all looked decent and paid 800 B to take her back to my hotel. Paid 2000 B for ST. And it was a simple GFE, no BJ though so that kinda sucked. The following day it closed down so went looking at other gogo bars but they all the ladies didn't look as good. A friend told me that its pretty dry there now so I have no idea how things are like now.

I hope things gets better soon for them. I really liked the city and climate so would probably go again if I have the chance. But might do more touristy stuff.

[TJ321]

When I was in Chiang Mai back in mid March I searched a bunch of forums to see where to get some action. It was pretty slow in the area. Tried Zoe in Yellow but was super empty and I'm not much of a beer drinker so left. Ended up at Foxy Lady where there was only another customer. Girls all looked decent and paid 800 B to take her back to my hotel. Paid 2000 B for ST. And it was a simple GFE, no BJ though so that kinda sucked. The following day it closed down so went looking at other gogo bars but they all the ladies didn't look as good. A friend told me that its pretty dry there now so I have no idea how things are like now.

I hope things gets better soon for them. I really liked the city and climate so would probably go again if I have the chance. But might do more touristy stuff.I did real well at Celebrity massage and sayuri. Go in that order so you have a great experience and then a really great experience.

When you pick from the lineup:

On the right, really dinged up. Chance they once had a dick. Cheapest.

All the way on the left, really really hot. Too hot. Chance they once had a dick and a lot of surgery.

Middle left is where you need to live.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

Firstly, I live in CM. Rarely partake here, but visit Pattaya and BKK at least once a year. I am nearly 60, but blessed to look much younger, however, this will still matter, as I'm not going to places like Zoe or Spicy etc!

We have seen the 1st wave of the pandemic come and go. Additionally, CM was 'punished" by the Junta Government in BKK because this is Thakisin Shinawats home city. So the scene was raided down to rubble many years ago, and barely recovered. (How this helps them, I don't know, as tis well known those in uniforms run the local sex and drug industry, but their politics is full of regimental and inter-service rivalry too!) So the situation here has been dire for years. Loi Kroh never really impressed me that much, If I do go, I generally go there with my Missus and just perv and drink!

Well, because of Covid, I finally decided to try my luck locally. There are now THOUSANDS of unemployed, and the game has changed!

I think Thai Friendly is a dud now. They put way too many blocks on meeting girls without paying a fee. I think the fees they ask for, are not worth the results.

Recently, since NYE 2019 I used Tinder both as a fee payer and free. It works well enough as a free app, and it's really finally catching on now in Thailand, as word of mouth spreads.

I just straight out call for FWB ONS even Bar Girl Coyote Girl, on my profile, and I get at least two matches a day! Bear in mind I am old, and use my recent pics. My level of Thai fluency is "barstool" :D
And I only Tinder match in CM, not all over Thailand, which is another time wasting problem thats unavoidable on TF, no matter how you tweak the settings.

For my first P4P shag in CM since Covid, I have been quoted THB 2000 LT, have not met her, will tonight, and will report. Ironically, this one is from TF not Tinder! But I have had her as a Line contact since August anyway, and I think she was the only one from TF that actually passed the initial back and forth.

Also, I was driving in town with my defacto "wife" the other night and noticed girls outside Maddogs Bar. This is also a new development. Maddogs is mostly an expat oldtimers bar, and there were never bar girls in there. I guess these are freelancers. It was about 8 pm and they were huddled outside the bar, so I need to investigate further. Also another non-girly bar further along the moat road had the same thing going on, so things are changing, I hope for the better.

So tonight I will find out which hotels still allow lady guests-of-guests (I am thinking many hospitality businesses are broke but still paranoid about covid, even though it seems to be currently well under control in Thailand).

I considered getting a shag pad (condo) for a few weeks, as I don't want to bring girls to my home -wife is away right now- but as I'm just restarting my local mongering, and hotels are cheap, lets see how it works out first.

I have never tried the soapies here in CM, and I was not impressed with the prices at Foxy Lady a few years ago. And even in BKK etc. I always much prefer SW or FL.

Well before the Japanese ruined Thermae Basement Bar, I used to get all my girls from there, or the Soi 7 Biergarten (Which is so dead this year, as you can imagine). Bar-fines are BULLSHIT and I can't believe the girls in Thailand are not ALL online already, as they are in Medellin, maybe Covid will finally kill off the bar-fine culture for good!

[Oliver Kitsoff]

That's how I presented it to her but she took it very personal.

I have deleted her from all my apps but she still had my email and sent me one yesterday saying I was very mean. But nothing about visiting a doctor.

The tightest and Stinkiest P of my life.

A stinky pussy is usually always a case of Bacterial Vaginosis or BV, and a few days on pharmacy meds clears it up. The meds may be Rx only, but its always a good thing to have her visit a doctor anyway, especially if she's ignorant about her pussy health, who knows what else she's spreading around!

It's also true that an "unused" pussy tightens up noticeably too.

Too bad she was such an ignoramus, you did what you could to help her!

[Oliver Kitsoff]

This is the first question ever. RTFF back to 7/2017 and no reference regarding Vitamin see. Anyone know if I can buy legit Cialis at the pharmacies without prescription?

I will be visiting for short time with a private local and will need some sustainability motivator. Thanks for the help.I know this post is old, but some replies were not helpful!

It is incorrect to claim that ED drugs are "street drugs" in Thailand, as one poster on here did.

It is true that fakes are available everywhere in night market stalls -and some unscrupulous pharmacies- at least one pharmacy in Sukhumvit Road sells fake Cialis, so always take it out the box and eyeball the foil!

Firstly, unless you have a reaction to Tadalafil (Cialis) then why use the obsolete and inferior Sildenafil (Viagra and its generics?)

Cialis and a generic called Apcalis are widely available in Thailand OTC.

Cialis or its generic off the streets is just all FAKE. Stay well away from it.

If Cialis is in a transparent bubble packaging it is FAKE. That is obsolete packaging, the real deal is now in opaque foil, you cannot see the pill.

Apcalis however DOES have a clear bubble packaging. And as its a cheap generic, there's not much point faking it. It works as well as the Lily branded stuff (Cialis).

The Kamagra gels are genuine, but they're old science (Sildenafi) , and they're often stored poorly by street vendors, risking heat degradation.

Cialis / Tadalafil effects should last at least 48 hours on one dose, and up to 72 hours is often reported.

[TonyIndian]

I am getting blue balls in Koh Chang and thinking of moving to CM. Have been once before in 2017 for 4 days and saw plenty of action.

I don't drink so bars don't interest me. Are the Soapies still open? Brothels? Happy ending joints?

What about Western and international restaurants? Still open? Are there still Westerners especially Americans in numbers?

[Kajos]

Faack, I'm in Santitham and almost walked into a karaoke and this popped up in Facebook https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2026895/officials-tracing-326-contacts-of-chiang-mai-patient.

Better stay away for a few days if you're thinking of having fun in Chiang Mai.

[TConor]

I have seen stuff about Celebrity and so others in and around town. Has anyone been to Mossahuespa?

[Jijjy]

I have seen stuff about Celebrity and so others in and around town. Has anyone been to Mossahuespa?While I've never been, my friend says it's the best and only good place in town.

[TConor]

While I've never been, my friend says it's the best and only good place in town.Any reports or feed back?

[Jijjy]

Any reports or feed back?I did go there last week and the very cold lady who works there and speaks no english showed me a phone that had the message that for (I think) 1,800 baht a girl will massage you for an hour with a handjob to finish. She will do this naked too.

I knew things were not good when we showered together and she washed me, but there was no body to body contact. Same with the massage, very boring massage with a HJ to finish. Very very unsatisfying. There was a choice of five girls. I might go back thinking that I just got the wrong girl, as my friend used to get full service there and raves about it, but the girls at Daisuki by Lolita do a much much better job of massage and HJ, as it's an hour of teasing and playing downstairs, but you must pay extra there (500) to get them to take their clothes off. It's hard to beat Bangkok for fun. I prefer to use girls I find on TF.

[TConor]

I did go there last week and the very cold lady who works there and speaks no english showed me a phone that had the message that for (I think) 1,800 baht a girl will massage you for an hour with a handjob to finish. She will do this naked too.

I knew things were not good when we showered together and she washed me, but there was no body to body contact. Same with the massage, very boring massage with a HJ to finish. Very very unsatisfying. There was a choice of five girls. I might go back thinking that I just got the wrong girl, as my friend used to get full service there and raves about it, but the girls at Daisuki by Lolita do a much much better job of massage and HJ, as it's an hour of teasing and playing downstairs, but you must pay extra there (500) to get them to take their clothes off. It's hard to beat Bangkok for fun. I prefer to use girls I find on TF.But there used to be plenty of action near the Imperial Mae Ping hotel.

[TJ321]

I know this post is old, but some replies were not helpful!

It is incorrect to claim that ED drugs are "street drugs" in Thailand, as one poster on here did.

It is true that fakes are available everywhere in night market stalls -and some unscrupulous pharmacies- at least one pharmacy in Sukhumvit Road sells fake Cialis, so always take it out the box and eyeball the foil!

Firstly, unless you have a reaction to Tadalafil (Cialis) then why use the obsolete and inferior Sildenafil (Viagra and its generics?)

Cialis and a generic called Apcalis are widely available in Thailand OTC.

Cialis or its generic off the streets is just all FAKE. Stay well away from it.

If Cialis is in a transparent bubble packaging it is FAKE. That is obsolete packaging, the real deal is now in opaque foil, you cannot see the pill.As an alternative to the medical miracles that are Viagra and Cialis, I've found what I consider to be a good one that's more natural.

I've taken both of the others and my complains with both are many. The big one is that I go forever and can't seem to finish.

I've been using Yohimbe 400 MG about an hour before the performance. It gets your heart going a bit but it only sticks around for 4-6 hours. Don't take the higher dose, you won't like it. That's the smallest dose I've found.

[Lemon Ade]

As an alternative to the medical miracles that are Viagra and Cialis, I've found what I consider to be a good one that's more natural.

I've taken both of the others and my complains with both are many. The big one is that I go forever and can't seem to finish.

I've been using Yohimbe 400 MG about an hour before the performance. It gets your heart going a bit but it only sticks around for 4-6 hours. Don't take the higher dose, you won't like it. That's the smallest dose I've found.I tried it but the brand I bought (Yohimbe Extract from Puritan's Pride) doesn't seem to have much of an effect on me. Can I ask what brand you're using?

[Explorer8939]

I did real well at Celebrity massage and sayuri. Go in that order so you have a great experience and then a really great experience.

When you pick from the lineup:

On the right, really dinged up. Chance they once had a dick. Cheapest.

All the way on the left, really really hot. Too hot. Chance they once had a dick and a lot of surgery.

Middle left is where you need to live.I choose a real girl from Celebrity, she was stacked for a Thai girl. This was pre-Covid. No idea when Celebrity will open again.

[Explorer8939]

Had an oil massage in Chiang Mai. Extras were on offer.

[TJ321]

I tried it but the brand I bought (Yohimbe Extract from Puritan's Pride) doesn't seem to have much of an effect on me. Can I ask what brand you're using?I guess the brand has never been really important to me. I am in the US so it's just an over the counter product. I just order it from Amazon. I'm just careful to get a 400-800 MG dose. They have a 1500 MG dose and that's way too strong. You'll get all jittery and feel like crap all day.

[Explorer8939]

It looks like domestic travel in Thailand is going to open up again, but I don't know when it will be possible to fly to Chiang Mai.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

It looks like domestic travel in Thailand is going to open up again, but I don't know when it will be possible to fly to Chiang Mai.You can enter Chiang Mai now.

There are flights, or you can take the road to get there.

It all depends on what your vaccination status is as to what happens when you get there.

[Explorer8939]

You can enter Chiang Mai now.

There are flights, or you can take the road to get there.

It all depends on what your vaccination status is as to what happens when you get there.I am fully vaccinated in the US, but have no idea if my CDC card will be accepted by the airlines.

[Mlang]

Since the beginning of October I've been in Bangkok and Pattaya. A couple of days ago I landed in Chiang Mai, it's my first time here. What are the options to meet girls currently in Chiang Mai? Aside from the online options like ThaiFriendly, Tinder and so on.

Are there any bars with girls open at the moment? If so, where are the bars?

Any happy ending massage places that anyone can recommend?

Can I find freelancers in the street, like I've seen in Pattaya and BKK?

[Explorer8939]

Since the beginning of October I've been in Bangkok and Pattaya. A couple of days ago I landed in Chiang Mai, it's my first time here. What are the options to meet girls currently in Chiang Mai? Aside from the online options like ThaiFriendly, Tinder and so on.

Are there any bars with girls open at the moment? If so, where are the bars?

Any happy ending massage places that anyone can recommend?

Can I find freelancers in the street, like I've seen in Pattaya and BKK?Extras were available at these shops.

[Mlang]

Extras were available at these shops.Can't see the photos, do you mind sharing the shop names or the location? Thank you.

[CIMguy]

Since the beginning of October I've been in Bangkok and Pattaya. A couple of days ago I landed in Chiang Mai, it's my first time here. What are the options to meet girls currently in Chiang Mai? Aside from the online options like ThaiFriendly, Tinder and so on.

Are there any bars with girls open at the moment? If so, where are the bars?

Any happy ending massage places that anyone can recommend?

Can I find freelancers in the street, like I've seen in Pattaya and BKK?I went to the Sayuri soapy place a couple times when I was in Chiang Mai. I remember thinking it was expensive. One time the girl acted like I had a huge cock and made pain noises every time I pushed into her. Maybe she didn't have experience with foreigners, but I'm not that big. I took it as her trying to give as little as possible. The other time I had a good time. She upselled me for COF, but the rest of the service was very good.

I have no idea if it's open. I think there might have also been a back room with Russian girls, but I didn't see it.

[Explorer8939]

Can't see the photos, do you mind sharing the shop names or the location? Thank you.Jo Jo massage and Pim Pim massage. On Thapea Road, Lane 1 behind the Night Market, just north of Loi Kroh Road.

[Mlang]

I went to the Sayuri soapy place a couple times when I was in Chiang Mai. I remember thinking it was expensive. One time the girl acted like I had a huge cock and made pain noises every time I pushed into her. Maybe she didn't have experience with foreigners, but I'm not that big. I took it as her trying to give as little as possible. The other time I had a good time. She upselled me for COF, but the rest of the service was very good.

I have no idea if it's open. I think there might have also been a back room with Russian girls, but I didn't see it.Thank you CIMguy, useful info. I think I'll give it a try tomorrow, I want to try both Sayuri and another soapy not far from there, I think it's called Celebrities shower massage. If they are open anyway. I'll check them out. Also good to know about the back room with Russian girls. I'm very much into Russian girls, so I'll ask when I'm there.

I've tried SidelineThailand when I was in BKK. For me it was a new channel to get girls. And the experience was quite good. In BKK I contacted the sideline girls through Telegram groups and also through Twitter. Now I'm looking around to see if there are any Sideline girls in Chiang Mai (or other parts of of Thailand for that matter) but I can't seem to find much sideline activity around Chiang Mai. Anybody have any tips about this?

[NicFrenchy]

I want to try both Sayuri and another soapy not far from thereI'm not sure if old Papasan is still there but he always was friendly to me, reason? I put a crisp 500 in his hand when saying Hello, asking him for what I wanted and trust me, papa made sure I would be satisfied in the room.

Maybe 500 was too much, but between a great and a bad experience. 500 is nothing. Especially when the girls aren't used to seeing white guys (sayuri caters to Thais in majority).

[Ablablat]

Hi. I'm new to Chiang Mai. Loving the vibe and planning to stay here a while. From what I gathered from my own little research and browsing through this section, it seems that the place to go is Daisuki Massage by Lolita, bar none. Expats may need to correct me about whether that is true or not, but I am trying the place out tomorrow and shall provide you with some feedback. I am not sure to expect full-on intercourse, but their website do make it sound very appealing regardless, as do some online reviews.

Let the fun in CM begin!

[Ablablat]

And so I went, and I got a decent massage, nothing so special about it, except yes, the place is pretty clean, and there is no fuss about what you're going to get, because the cards are laid out right from the start. And I was super nice to Jenny (#9) and she was nice back, plenty of smiles in a very laid back atmosphere. Perhaps a little TOO laidback, so when she asked if I'd pay extra to see her tight little body, I thought yeah why the hell not. I'm telling you, I haven't seen anything this tight since I was dating in high school, and that was in the 80's. She said she is 21 and how could I not believe her? Those breasts were as round and as firm and as high as I've ever seen, with small pink nipples. As tight as a drum skin, I tell you, but not the gym-addict type. Just. Young-tight. And so she allowed me to touch her all over, that was the deal she made perfectly clear in that dainty little acccent of hers. And after a few minutes she was wondering what I was waiting for, but I like to take my time and not rush and jump on the girl. Besides, there was still 25 minutes on the clock. We're making small talk and she's smiling and I am enjoying the tug. Very laid back until I finally decided to dare and she let me play with her clit freely. I dared going inside and she let me finger fuck her and fool around with her g-spot and it got intense. She got so wet and a let out a little moan, all the while pumping the engine faster and harder and the timing was just right to let it all out.

I'd say her technique in the end was not that of an expert, although the beginning shower promise -- perhaps she lost control a bit? -- but sometimes the package is juuuuust right.

Showered. Got dressed. Gave her a tip well deserved, headed downstairs where all the other girls were having dinner and I made them laugh a little and bid them farewell. Until next time, when I hope to have Tengmo all over it. Everyone says she's the best. So I'll be going again. It won't turn into a habit though, I figure a few times will suffice, just to try a few cuties, but eventually, it's got to lead to more. And for less. After all, this is CM.

[Allover]

Ablablat, Anime Kawaii is a fun shop as well. You can google it. Celebrity is one of the more famous venues there. When I visited before the pandemic the selection was awful. It was so bad I never returned, not even to see if the lineup improved.

Is the night market operating now?

[Ablablat]

Ablablat, Anime Kawaii is a fun shop as well. You can google it. Celebrity is one of the more famous venues there. When I visited before the pandemic the selection was awful. It was so bad I never returned, not even to see if the lineup improved.

Is the night market operating now?Hey, does Anime Kawaii offer FS. I'm sure there must me many spots that do, but obviously I'm looking for places that are as good as it gets in CM. Celebrity? Where do people go now post-COVID? What's the latest recommendations?

[Ablablat]

Has anyone been to 888 Spa or Ichaicha lately? Are they all they're cracked up to be? -- 2700 B2 B + All the FS you can have).

Sorry, I'm new to CM and I'm looking for the hot spots. I was walking down Loi Kroh the other night I thought it was pretty lame. Perhaps it was too early or my expectations are too high. I do see pretty young things on the streets everywhere, but where do they go for real fun?

[Allover]

Hey, does Anime Kawaii offer FS. I'm sure there must me many spots that do, but obviously I'm looking for places that are as good as it gets in CM. Celebrity? Where do people go now post-COVID? What's the latest recommendations?The girl I was with did not offer full service to me. I'm not sure about the other girls there. I was told Anime Kawaii is open now. You could always go there or call and ask.

[Cucumber]

I know this post is old, but some replies were not helpful!

It is incorrect to claim that ED drugs are "street drugs" in Thailand, as one poster on here did.... Cialis / Tadalafil effects should last at least 48 hours on one dose, and up to 72 hours is often reported.Cialis is an incredible drug. However, it usually comes in doses of 20 MG and for most people that is too much. I find that 4-5 MG is more than enough. Any more than that and I get a splitting headache, bulging eyes, dry mouth and a racing heart. I use a knife or a razor to split the pills into 1/4 or 1/5.

[Ablablat]

Cialis is an incredible drug. However, it usually comes in doses of 20 MG and for most people that is too much. I find that 4-5 MG is more than enough. Any more than that and I get a splitting headache, bulging eyes, dry mouth and a racing heart. I use a knife or a razor to split the pills into 1/4 or 1/5.I find them (in Bangkok, mind you) in 5 MG just about everywhere. And I agree, 5 MG is sufficient and effects last for at least 48 hours (for me, anyhow). What a fantastic, magical, sex-life enriching pill. I don't come as easily though, as you do lose some sensitivity when full-on rock hard. My girl doesn't mind, that's for sure; she likes it to last a good while, as I do, but those who charge for fun in parlors, they want to get it over with ASAP. Double that with a condom and you won't feel a thing.

[DoktorEn]

Would love some recommendations for girl friendly hotels located centrally in Chiang Mai. Thanks in advance!

[GrapeMan]

Would love some recommendations for girl friendly hotels located centrally in Chiang Mai. Thanks in advance!I doubt many would care in Chiang Mai, other than the usual looks you'll get from the staff.

[Mr Scand]

Would love some recommendations for girl friendly hotels located centrally in Chiang Mai. Thanks in advance!I stayed at Raming Lodge Hotel & Spa right on Loi Kroh road December 2020. No problems at all to bring girls. Though, things could have changed since then but I doubt.

[LookingLooking]

Restriction similar to Bangkok remain.

Alcohol sales in restaurants till 11 pm daily.

[Ablablat]

Hi all:

Has anyone tried ichaicha, lately or ever? Is it just great advertising or is the place really the tops and this nuru gel stuff really that great?

An enquiring / inquiring mind wants to know.

[LookingLooking]

Hi all:

Has anyone tried ichaicha, lately or ever? Is it just great advertising or is the place really the tops and this nuru gel stuff really that great?

An enquiring / inquiring mind wants to know.Real nuru with sex.

[Sir Lancelot]

The flight from Bangkok's Don Muang Airport up to Chiang Mai lasted an hour and I took a taxi to my hotel. I stayed at a nice place inside the Old Town that calls itself a 'boutique' hotel, which normally means koi carp in the gardens and a fancy bathroom. It cost me 1300 baht a night on Agoda. There are a lot of great deals on hotels at the moment.

On my first day in Chiang Mai I visited Doi Suthep, a very impressive temple near the top of one of the mountains that overlooks Chiang Mai. I spent the afternoon walking around the crumbling wall and moat of the Old Town. Each side is 1. 67 km long.

After a busy few weeks in Pattaya and Bangkok in terms of girls, I wasn't on the lookout for action. But sometimes when you're not on the hunt, good things happen.

First night was a disappointment. It was a Friday and the beer bars at the Old Town end of Loi Kroh Road were sleepy. Quite a few of them were open but there were hardly any girls and those I saw were generally older. The busiest bar had four girls and a ladyboy flashed me her bum as I walked past.

I ate at a burger at a place called Rock Me and found a bar a little further up the road called Good Friends Bar, with purple lighting outside. There were two attractive girls out front, probably late twenties, who could be sisters. I sat inside and ordered a beer. An old gent with a pencil moustache was holding hands with a mature Thai woman in a revealing red dress at the bar.

One of the pretty girls came over to my table and introduced herself as Pear. I love a nice pear. She had a lovely face but moments later picked up her handbag and went to get something to eat. Her pretty friend was stood at the bar, smiling tolerantly at the drunken antics of a young British guy who had his baseball cap on back to front. I paid my bill and she discreetly gave me the eye a few times and a nice smile.

I'll confess, I didn't do any research about the nightlife in Chiang Mai prior to this trip as I expected this leg of my holiday to be about relaxing. My knowledge about Chiang Mai's nightlife scene is probably hopelessly out-of-date as it's over ten years old, the last time I visited. I remember fucking girls from the Loi Kroh bars, Chiang Mai Entertainment Centre, Sayuri Massage Parlour, Foxy Lady gogo bar and even Spicy Disco. Most of those places are probably closed now.

The second night delivered one of my most memorable pay-for-play experiences in Asia.

After the disappointment of the night before, I had no intention of looking for a girl. After a busy day of visiting temples, I planned to visit the night market. It's about a kilometre up Loi Kroh Road but as I walked up, past Good Friends Bar, the street became livelier. Two young girls were sat outside We Love Massage, one of whom was an 8/10. A short distance away was another massage shop. 'I help you relax' said an older woman.

A young woman was sat on a motorbike and patted the seat behind her, inviting me to jump on. I regret I didn't now, I'll never know where she would have taken me.

Then suddenly I reached a beer bar complex. The first bar was called Blue Grass Bar and there were a few customers and five or six older girls. I walked a few strides further and realised this was what I remembered to be Chiang Mai Entertainment Plaza.

However it's now called Loi Kroh Plaza. It's an alleyway with probably 10 bars either side, leading down to a Thai boxing ring. I walked past Jackie Bar, The Shamrock, Lollipop, Same Same, My TiRak, King Kong and Sunshine. There were three or four available girls in each and some pretty young things too.

I selected a bar with six girls sat outside and noticed a very distinctive looking girl. She had shorter hair, was covered in tattoos and had what seemed to be big natural breasts. Normally I go for cute, innocent types but every now and then I like to mix things up. She had sex appeal and her name was O.

Humiliating she beat me in a game of pool (I blame my cue) before I decided to square my bill and leave. After all, I wasn't on the hunt for a girl tonight. I fancied an early night.

'You have Line?' she asked before I left. We swapped details.

But as I walked back to my hotel I thought 'Lance, get a grip!' I'm on holiday and I had the opportunity of fucking a foxy chick tonight. She's super-keen and gave sexy vibes.

So when I got back to my hotel I sent her a message on Line, asking when she finished work.

'You want to meet me?' she replied almost instantly.

The conversation continued back and forth for ten minutes. She told me she didn't finish work for several hours so I agreed to pay the 500 bar-fine and although she quoted 2000 short-time, she accepted 1500. Ten minutes later she arrived outside my hotel in the back of at tuk-tuk, like a pizza delivery service.

Normally I don't care what people think when I take a girl in to my hotel with me, but walking a big-boobed pocket rocket covered in tattoos in to a boutique hotel, was the closest to the 'walk of shame' I've experienced for a while. I avoided eye contact with the receptionist and held hands with O as we passed a couple at the pool. I bet the wife was disapproving but the husband was jealous.

She undressed as soon as she got in to my room. No messing around! I was pleased to see she wasn't a Wonderbra Wonder and had the most amazing large natural tits I've seen in a long time. She was skinny and her whole body was covered in tattoos. When she dropped her knickers she had a hairy Bush.

What followed was some of the best sex I've ever had.

To start I fingered her as I kissed her neck and sucked her ear-lobe. 'Look what you do' she said and showed me her arm which was covered in goosebumps. This girl made me rock hard. I fucked her slowly in mish with lots of passionate kissing, then leaned upright and fucked her hard as her majestic breasts wobbled like jellies. I lifted one of her legs over, so I was entering her pussy sideways (Asian girls seem to love this position), then I spooned her as I squeezed her tits.

She went on top and rode me slowly. What a view! She leaned forward, hooked her feet under my legs and took each of my hands and placed them on her arse-cheeks, then grinded her pussy firmly. Her groans gradually increased in volume before she came noisily.

But the sex continued for ages.

We did doggy, mish again and cowgirl. I leaned up and sucked her tits as she bounced away. At one point she ran in to the bathroom to get us both a towel as we were sweating so much. She went on top again and repeated the same procedure as before, hooking her feet under my legs and placing both my hands on her arse. 'Me want come again' she said.

I fancied oral so asked her to sit on my face. She groaned loudly each time I stuck my tongue up her pussy or sucked her clit. Then she wanked me to an intense climax, laughing as I shot my load over my chest.

What a session! It must have lasted nearly an hour.

I regretted I didn't meet her earlier as she would have made a great regular fuckbuddy.

Next morning I packed and took a bus up to Chiang Rai. As we made our way along the winding mountain roads I reflected on my short time in Chiang Mai. It's a great place to go to be a tourist, with the added bonus of Loi Kroh Plaza if you fancy spicing things up a bit. Even in these covid times there are gems to be found.

[ErsatzJulian]

A "massage" place offering full service at the corner Sridonchai and Changklan Road. I walked in on Tuesday night and was shown a line up of 8 women. Prices were either 2900 or 2500. All were average looking, so I left.

[Island Story]

I selected a bar with six girls sat outside and noticed a very distinctive looking girl. She had shorter hair, was covered in tattoos and had what seemed to be big natural breasts. Normally I go for cute, innocent types but every now and then I like to mix things up. She had sex appeal and her name was O."

I would love to meet her.

If you don't mind, can you post the name of the bar she works out.

And if possible a # she can be reached out (if the forum allows).

Or any other info to help me find her.

Thank you!


The flight from Bangkok's Don Muang Airport up to Chiang Mai lasted an hour and I took a taxi to my hotel. I stayed at a nice place inside the Old Town that calls itself a 'boutique' hotel, which normally means koi carp in the gardens and a fancy bathroom. It cost me 1300 baht a night on Agoda. There are a lot of great deals on hotels at the moment.

On my first day in Chiang Mai I visited Doi Suthep, a very impressive temple near the top of one of the mountains that overlooks Chiang Mai. I spent the afternoon walking around the crumbling wall and moat of the Old Town. Each side is 1. 67 km long.

After a busy few weeks in Pattaya and Bangkok in terms of girls, I wasn't on the lookout for action. But sometimes when you're not on the hunt, good things happen.

First night was a disappointment. It was a Friday and the beer bars at the Old Town end of Loi Kroh Road were sleepy. Quite a few of them were open but there were hardly any girls and those I saw were generally older. The busiest bar had four girls and a ladyboy flashed me her bum as I walked past...

[Sir Lancelot]

I would love to meet her.

If you don't mind, can you post the name of the bar she works out.

And if possible a # she can be reached out (if the forum allows).

Or any other info to help me find her.

Thank you!I'm afraid I don't give contact details out of girls I meet. I used to include their details in my reports (name of girl and bar etc) as I thought it would reward girls who provided a good service by potentially sending more business their way but then I posted a diary on the Angeles forum in Philippines and a some loser decided to go to each of the bars and tell the girls that they'd been written about on a sex forum. I can only assume he was trying to play the knight in shining armour. One of those girls texted me and was fuming, as apparently girls from her bar read it and she felt so humiliated she had to leave the bar. And bear in mind I gave her a rave review and called her 'blowjob queen'.

So I don't reveal the names of the girls, sorry. But on the bright side, you can just fuck all of the big-boobed girls with tattoos you see at Loi Kroh Plaza, and you're bound to find her eventually.

[FranklyS]

In Chiang Mai for just a few days, I decided to check out Icha Icha in the late afternoon to escape the heat after a day of temple visiting. I didn't expect it to be busy or for there to be a lot of girls since there seemed to be very few tourists around, however I was wrong.

When I arrived, it was straight into the front lounge area (large, clean, and pleasant) to greeted by a friendly (female) receptionist who brought me a small bottle of Icha Icha-branded water, showed me the prices for 60 or 90 minutes (2500 and 3000, iirc), and called a line-up of girls. I went with 60 minutes.

The website claims that the girls working there are mostly between 18 and 25; well, I don't know about that but they all appeared to be under 30 at least. The girls themselves were typical Thai women, no stunners but if you know what a normal Thai girl looks like you'll have a fair idea. None of the girls were really my type per se, but one of them was wearing a 1000 Watt smile which made me smile in return. The girl herself was not at all what I would usually describe as my type, but I've learned over the years that my rational brain has no idea what it wants and that I should listen to my lizard brain when it comes to such matters.

We went upstairs, and contrary to what I had expected previously, it was quite busy, so much so that we spent a few minutes checking for an available room (some occupied, some undergoing cleaning). Once we arrived, the room itself was large and very clean (far more so than most MPs I've been in in Thailand); the photo on the website is accurate, although with a slightly different layout to the room I was in.

The session started very well, with the girl being very friendly, smiley, and playful. First was a shower, including some body scrubbing. Then the nuru mat was laid down in the shower area (see the photo of the room on their website to see), and she started into it. The whole nuru experience is very pleasant. Not something for every day but certainly a treat when experienced infrequently. To those wondering, the massage itself is not particularly sexual; at least until the HJ starts, then it was a BJ, followed with a cover on and some nuru mat cowgirl. After a short while of that, we showered (need to get the nuru gel off) and moved to the bed. On the bed was vanilla (a good flavour) sex, followed by some Thai massage to round out the full hour.

All in all, it was a good experience, but not one I'd repeat too often since the nuru part isn't something I always want.

[Island Story]

In Chiang Mai for just a few days, I decided to check out Icha Icha in the late afternoon to escape the heat after a day of temple visiting. I didn't expect it to be busy or for there to be a lot of girls since there seemed to be very few tourists around, however I was wrong.

When I arrived, it was straight into the front lounge area (large, clean, and pleasant) to greeted by a friendly (female) receptionist who brought me a small bottle of Icha Icha-branded water, showed me the prices for 60 or 90 minutes (2500 and 3000, iirc), and called a line-up of girls. I went with 60 minutes.

The website claims that the girls working there are mostly between 18 and 25; well, I don't know about that but they all appeared to be under 30 at least. The girls themselves were typical Thai women, no stunners but if you know what a normal Thai girl looks like you'll have a fair idea. None of the girls were really my type per se, but one of them was wearing a 1000 Watt smile which made me smile in return. The girl herself was not at all what I would usually describe as my type, but I've learned over the years that my rational brain has no idea what it wants and that I should listen to my lizard brain when it comes to such matters.

We went upstairs, and contrary to what I had expected previously, it was quite busy, so much so that we spent a few minutes checking for an available room (some occupied, some undergoing cleaning). Once we arrived, the room itself was large and very clean (far more so than most MPs I've been in in Thailand); the photo on the website is accurate, although with a slightly different layout to the room I was in..Very good well written report, although one question.

Did the 2500 pay for all you described, or did you have to negotiate a tip before the fun started for extra services?

If so, what extra amount did you pay?

Thank you.

[FranklyS]

Very good well written report, although one question.

Did the 2500 pay for all you described, or did you have to negotiate a tip before the fun started for extra services?

If so, what extra amount did you pay?

Thank you.No extra. 2500 for 60 minutes, full service massage. It's quite clear from their webpage.

https://ichaichachiangmai.com/system/

[TConor]

No extra. 2500 for 60 minutes, full service massage. It's quite clear from their webpage.

https://ichaichachiangmai.com/system/Especially for the quality available when I went there. I heartily agree on the age comment.

[Island Story]

No extra. 2500 for 60 minutes, full service massage. It's quite clear from their webpage.

https://ichaichachiangmai.com/system/Thank you.

I had not converted the price correctly when I first read it.

I agree with TConor. Price does seem very high for Chiang Mai and even more so with Covid / sparse tourism.

Would be grateful if either of you (or anyone else) can recommend other places in Chiang Mai.

Thank you.

[TConor]

Thank you.

I had not converted the price correctly when I first read it.

I agree with TConor. Price does seem very high for Chiang Mai and even more so with Covid / sparse tourism.

Would be grateful if either of you (or anyone else) can recommend other places in Chiang Mai.

Thank you.But near and around the The Imperial Mae Ping Hotel, now under renovation, are some ST massage shops. But some talent can be long on age and looks. Also near the.

Chiang Mai Plaza Hotel. Celebrity is probably your best bet for fish bowl type arrangements. Good luck.

[ErsatzJulian]

But near and around the The Imperial Mae Ping Hotel, now under renovation, are some ST massage shops. But some talent can be long on age and looks. Also near the.

Chiang Mai Plaza Hotel. Celebrity is probably your best bet for fish bowl type arrangements. Good luck.Celebrity closed down a while back due to COVID.

[TConor]

Celebrity closed down a while back due to COVID.I did not know that.

[SteelBaton]

Especially for the quality available when I went there. I heartily agree on the age comment.Easy to scroll through photos of the talent on their Twitter feed https://ichaichachiangmai.com/girls/.

TC. When you say you agree with the age comment, you mean they are mostly older, closer to 30?

[TConor]

Easy to scroll through photos of the talent on their Twitter feed https://ichaichachiangmai.com/girls/.

TC. When you say you agree with the age comment, you mean they are mostly older, closer to 30?And way to expensive for what you get.

[Miss MaryHinge]

I'll be hopefully spending 5-6 days in Chiang Mai in early September.

Never visited CM before so I'm looking for some well-located hotel tips.

The search threw up some old stuff but nothing so recent, post c19.

As a reference, in BKK I like Grand Swiss and Citadines soi 11 to give an idea.

For this trip I've booked Citadines in BKK for 6 nights for 236 euro (with a 24 e travel credit refund after the stay, via booking) so quite a good deal.

I reckon something similar in price / quality and location to action would suit. Cafes, restaurants, and so just outside or a few meters away.

Input greatly appreciated.

[VisitUSA]

Another new (I think) "upscale" and "erotic" massage place: https://www.cnxseed.com/cmxseedforumn/index.php?topic=139868.0.

Address: 143/9 7 Mueang Chiang Mai District, Chiang Mai 50000.

[Ablablat]

Hi Folks,

May be asking for a whole lot but I'm single again so.

1. Anyone know any sideline girl group or best place / way to find college girls that need a little financial aid in return for pleasure?

2. Any trustworthy or favorable escort service in CNX?

3. Best B2 be massage in town (with youngest girls around).

[EatALotOpus]

I'll be hopefully spending 5-6 days in Chiang Mai in early September.

Never visited CM before so I'm looking for some well-located hotel tips.

The search threw up some old stuff but nothing so recent, post c19.

As a reference, in BKK I like Grand Swiss and Citadines soi 11 to give an idea.

For this trip I've booked Citadines in BKK for 6 nights for 236 euro (with a 24 e travel credit refund after the stay, via booking) so quite a good deal.

I reckon something similar in price / quality and location to action would suit. Cafes, restaurants, and so just outside or a few meters away.

Input greatly appreciated.Stayed here several times. Never had an issue bringing guests. Hotel just looks at their ID. Rooms are not as great as they look, food is good but expensive. If you still unsure about GF you can always email them. Fun fact, it's close to old town and closer to the night market. Don't miss the opportunity to go to women's prison for massage. Lots info online on that one. Enjoy.

[Miss MaryHinge]

.Stayed here several times. Never had an issue bringing guests. Hotel just looks at their ID Rooms are not as great as they look, food is good but expensive. If you still unsure about GF you can always email them. Fun fact, it's close to old town and closer to the night market. Don't miss the opportunity to go to women's prison for massage. Lots info online on that one. Enjoy.Yes, I know the guest policy at Citadines Soi 11 as I stayed there. The breakfast I tried once was underwhelming. Not a patch on Grand Swiss, for instance.

I was asking on the Chiang Mai thread about comparable places in this city. Anyway I booked The Wing Boutique Hotel, which is girl-friendly.

It seems the women's prison massages you refer to are at a vocational training centre by prisoners being rehabilitated, not actually in the prison.

[Shaun Palmer]

Hello,

Anyone know if spotlight agogo is open?

[ElMongero]

Hello all,

I'm visiting Chiang Mai for the first time (been to Thailand many times before) in three weeks. I'd appreciate any tips on where to find action (local and falang ladies) and to stay. Also, is the city lively post C19?

Cheers.

[EatALotOpus]

It seems the women's prison massages you refer to are at a vocational training centre by prisoners being rehabilitated, not actually in the prison. I gues the link did not uploaded. The hotel I was referring to is the Duangtawan Hotel. Sorry about that! And yes you're correct about the prison massage, being in a different complex so is the restaurant next door. They got moved long time ago. Best honey ginger tea! By patronizing the complex you're helping the rehab of the girls while you get a clean massage. Disclosure. I'm not a Saint!

[Miss MaryHinge]

Will be spending a week in Chiang Mai. Wondering where, if anywhere, one can find freelancers, streetwalkers, within the old town walls, or just outside, not too far away.

[VisitUSA]

No extra. 2500 for 60 minutes, full service massage. It's quite clear from their webpage.

https://ichaichachiangmai.com/system/A really upscale place, except for the "therapists" (service and looks). A very mediocre line up of girls that have not been trained.

When you spend all this money on a place, it might be wise to get somebody that knows how to attract a good looking staff and somebody that knows how to train them properly, like at Doki Doki or Mitu / Soap in Bangkok.

[Maaipi]

I read here on ISG forum mostly about younger massage girls.

I am curious if anyone knows of an address where an experienced elderly lady is working.

And who offers a full service here in Chiang Mai. Age limit from 45 to 60 years.

[TheSatellite]

The places I have lined up are:

- Icha Icha.

- Aloha Massage (although seems overly expensive).

- Sayuri Complex.

- Mermaid.

- Koi Fish Spa.

I will report on the situation in Chiang Mai when I am there. Any other places I have missed on this list I should check out? It seems like my go-to when I am up there might have to be ThaiFriendly App. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of Go Go's in Chiang Mai.

[CaliGuy33]

The places I have lined up are:

- Icha Icha.

- Aloha Massage (although seems overly expensive).

- Sayuri Complex.

- Mermaid.

- Koi Fish Spa.

I will report on the situation in Chiang Mai when I am there. Any other places I have missed on this list I should check out? It seems like my go-to when I am up there might have to be ThaiFriendly App. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of Go Go's in Chiang Mai.I'll likely be out there the first week of September.

I'm guessing TF will be my best bet.

[Jarjarmissa]

The places I have lined up are:

- Icha Icha.

- Aloha Massage (although seems overly expensive).

- Sayuri Complex.

- Mermaid.

- Koi Fish Spa.

I will report on the situation in Chiang Mai when I am there. Any other places I have missed on this list I should check out? It seems like my go-to when I am up there might have to be ThaiFriendly App. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of Go Go's in Chiang Mai.I'll be in Chiang Mai next week and I do intend to give a try to Icha Icha as it looks to be the right one. But as usual, it also depends on the girl so. Let's see.

But if your experience is OK in another place, I am keep to know. Thank in advance.

[Jarjarmissa]

"All about touch" is also on my list.

https://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-all-about-touch-massage-chiang-mai-p227

[TheSatellite]

I'll be in Chiang Mai next week and I do intend to give a try to Icha Icha as it looks to be the right one. But as usual, it also depends on the girl so. Let's see.

But if your experience is OK in another place, I am keep to know. Thank in advance.I will absolutely report back once I have been. Let me know what your experience was like at Icha Icha.

[Miss MaryHinge]

"All about touch" is also on my list.

https://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-all-about-touch-massage-chiang-mai-p227Good read. Might have to check out, and post here my experience.

[TheSatellite]

"All about touch" is also on my list.

https://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-all-about-touch-massage-chiang-mai-p227Good find! It doesn't look like FS is on offer here but still looks like a good place to visit!

[Kappa322]

You should avoid Koifish spa. The girls are very pretty. But their service is just pathetic. I have never heard an escort or spa girl in Thailand say no so many times to everything. No DFK, no fingering, no BBBJ, no DATY, not even boob sucking. Finally I got pissed and asked her to change girl if she ain't doing anything. Then she was open for DFK, fingering and boob sucking. I just wanted to finish and leave. When I told the receptionist that the girl was not cooperative. The lady gave a blank face and said new girl. That girl has been on their ads for an year.


The places I have lined up are:

- Icha Icha.

- Aloha Massage (although seems overly expensive).

- Sayuri Complex.

- Mermaid.

- Koi Fish Spa.

I will report on the situation in Chiang Mai when I am there. Any other places I have missed on this list I should check out? It seems like my go-to when I am up there might have to be ThaiFriendly App. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of Go Go's in Chiang Mai.

[TConor]

"All about touch" is also on my list.

https://www.chiangmailocator.com/wiki-all-about-touch-massage-chiang-mai-p227May not always be opened here in Thailand.

[TheSatellite]

You should avoid Koifish spa. The girls are very pretty. But their service is just pathetic. I have never heard an escort or spa girl in Thailand say no so many times to everything. No DFK, no fingering, no BBBJ, no DATY, not even boob sucking. Finally I got pissed and asked her to change girl if she ain't doing anything. Then she was open for DFK, fingering and boob sucking. I just wanted to finish and leave. When I told the receptionist that the girl was not cooperative. The lady gave a blank face and said new girl. That girl has been on their ads for an year.Thanks for the intel. This is the sort of feedback that is just really difficult to find when googling around for places. Will take it off my list!

[Jarjarmissa]

Today, Saturday, 10 pm.

Bench of 6 girls in the bowl.

3 on the right (1500 baths).

3 on the left (2000 baths).

0 outside (Models so I do not know the price).

Following the usual tip: I order a LEO max (120 baths) and have a look to phone (TF), to the bowl, while I drink it.

1- Customers are mainly Thai.

2- Price depends on your look. Girls on the left were proposed at 2000 to me (white, European, 45 y, not fat, clean outfits.), the same girls were suggested at 2800 to a younger but Arabic guy, fat, not so good looking.

3- From 10 pm to 11 pm I will only have seen these 6 girls + 1 model who made a short round between 2 customers. Inly 1 girl would have been my kind of girl with a 7/10. All the others were more 5 or 6.

Finally I gave up letting another punter the opportunity to review the rooms and the service.

[Miss MaryHinge]

I'm looking forward to visiting in a week or so either All About Touch or Senz Diva Massage for a Lingam massage and possibly a Gogonutz massage on another day.

I'd also like to get a B2B massage with at least a happy ending or ideally FS option. The B2B seem to be less popular nowadays (I've read) . I had one in eastern Europe and thought it was great, with a happy ending, though finishing with FS would be perfect. Does someone know a decent place offering this, with FS or just happy ending? Thanks.

[OlderNotWiser]

Hi just interested if anyone has any info on Chiang Rai? My preference is for bars where you can find either freelancers or bar fine girls, relaxed atmosphere. I'll be visiting Chiang Mai, where there seem to be a reasonable number of options, but interested what there might be for a side trip to its smaller cousin.

[Ablablat]

Which is the best B2 B massage these days?

And / Or where to find such service in the comfort of your room?

[Explorer8939]

Hi just interested if anyone has any info on Chiang Rai? My preference is for bars where you can find either freelancers or bar fine girls, relaxed atmosphere. I'll be visiting Chiang Mai, where there seem to be a reasonable number of options, but interested what there might be for a side trip to its smaller cousin.There are bars near the clock tower.

[TConor]

Hi just interested if anyone has any info on Chiang Rai? My preference is for bars where you can find either freelancers or bar fine girls, relaxed atmosphere. I'll be visiting Chiang Mai, where there seem to be a reasonable number of options, but interested what there might be for a side trip to its smaller cousin.There are some bars down Jet Yod road directly off the New Clock tower. Also some massage parlours all around the Wangcome hotel and the Wiang Inn hotel. There used to be a fish bowel in the rear of the Wiang Inn, but I don't think it is open any more. But your mileage may greatly vary if looking for more that a HJ.

[Island Story]

Are you guys tipping at places like Daisuke by Lolita, All about Touch, etc.

If so, how much. What %?

[Crocodilexp]

There are some bars down Jet Yod road directly off the New Clock tower. Also some massage parlours all around the Wangcome hotel and the Wiang Inn hotel. There used to be a fish bowel in the rear of the Wiang Inn, but I don't think it is open any more. But your mileage may greatly vary if looking for more that a HJ.There's a ton of massage parlors in the streets around Wiangcome, and they look promising.

However, I didn't partake since I really dislike the setup where you pay for massage which may lead to more, often just a HJ, and rarely for a great price.

So sad Chiang Rai no longer has outright cheap brothels, I hear it used to be bustling with them many years ago.

[CaliGuy33]

There's a ton of massage parlors in the streets around Wiangcome, and they look promising.

However, I didn't partake since I really dislike the setup where you pay for massage which may lead to more, often just a HJ, and rarely for a great price.

So sad Chiang Rai no longer has outright cheap brothels, I hear it used to be bustling with them many years ago.Currently in CM for sightseeing but happen to be staying right off Loi Kroh Road. Walking around all the bar and massage girls are older and below avg. In looks. I'm not partaking in any punting here so doesn't affect me, but CM is not the place to punt. Even on TF there are slim pickings here, including for dating as far as I can tell. A lot of farang as well, especially western women which is the last thing I want to see whilst in Thailand.

[Free Dude]

I went ahead and tried one of those massage places that is pushed so much on that Chiang Mai locator site that is mentioned here (hope everyone noticed that the places that get positive reviews, are also the one sponsoring that site. Typically those over extended 'menus' give me the impression that they are taking the whole getting your kit off for a few bath, far too seriously. But the regular massage girls on loi kroh are looking a bit rough and I haven't been able to get further than a couple of board games with the girls in the Chiang Mai entertainment center (some cute girls. I just loose all interest in sex after a couple of games of connect four; start thinking about a cup of tea and a good book).

Anyway, rocked up at Daisuke by Lolita in the early afternoon. Paid the 900 to go nutz, and then she called the girls. There were two, she called out a few times again and then turned to me saying there were 2 girls. Girls are young enough, so fits the Lolita thing. One also kind of cute (nothing more), so picked her.

The room was decent and the general massage was pretty good. Didn't feel any interest / sexual tensioner / banter from the girls though (which I normally like in Thai massage shops, as we work towards the point of discussing extras). Here just a long massage, touched her leg a few times without much reaction. After being flipped around and getting oiled up at the front as well, the main part would start. But not before some upsell. 500 to get her top off, or 1000 to get naked. Touching would be allowed. Boom boom not on offer, and I decided paying a thousand to feel her up a bit. The sensual massage that was supposed to make mu nuts go nutz, was little more than a regular tug job. Now is it always a conscious decision for me to come by handjob (even with a weeks build up), but this didn't convince me. A few times she showed some interesting variations. But as she felt me getting harder, she started tugging again. When I felt the fibrations of her phone messages through the mattress, that ended the last prayer of finishing. As always the girls start getting concerned when the time is up and you haven't finished, but just said all was great. As I went to shower I saw a very cute girl walking to another room (deliberately didn't ask for her number, to stop myself from hitting my head on the same stone again) and wasn't allowed to leave before filling in some grades for my girl. I'm sure she realized a bunch of sixes are not great (gave her more for the massage, which was pretty good).

[Miss MaryHinge]

Chose to get a 1 hour Gogonutz massage with Daerie at the former. This was rather pleasant with a nice hand job to finish.

At the latter I got a 1 hour lingam massage from the pretty Koya. Lots of oil used, ass touching and excellent stroking and caressing.

Would repeat the lingam over the gogonutz.

[Kjxyfthh]

In Chiang Mai right now and haven't previously been to any Thai massage parlors before. For anyone curious:

Koi Fish Spa:

I went late on Sunday (11 pm) without any advance planning, which I would advise against; it was kind of an impulse decision as I had winded down for the night. Basically, there were only two girls available and I thought both of them were very okay looking at best; not finding either attractive, I passed and left.

Daisuke by Lolita:

Having learned from the Koi Fish Spa experience, I first contacted them on Line and asked for the girls available + their schedules. I booked Tengmo (number 7 I think) and went in the evening around dinnertime.

Having never done this before, and only having pictures online of other places + Koi Fish Spa as reference, I thought the actual facilities were more grimy / a little more run down than anticipated. You walk into what looks like a reasonable reception and then you go into a back area up a fairly dirty staircase into a landing and some fairly dank rooms. The bathroom for showering doesn't even have a place to put clothes or anything or hang the towel they give you. For me, this was a bit offputting.

In any case, Tengmo was (imo) less attractive than her pictures on Line, which basically seems to be the expectation for most these places; they tend to heavily edit face pics. That said, she was still reasonably attractive and I was fine with it. She was fairly quiet but had passable English, but I was initially beginning to have some doubts between the somewhat run down nature of the place + the somewhat demure personality of the receptionist plus the girl.

Some folks have complained and lamented about just paying for what amounts to a handjob in Chiang Mai, but in my opinion, the actual sensual massage (booked the 900 baht basic offering for an hour) was great. I haven't actually read a report detailing what the process is so I was kind of unclear how much would be massage vs otherwise, etc, so for anyone in a similar position. The massage itself was better than I thought. Started with a pretty reasonable actual Thai massage facing down fully naked for about 10 minutes, and then when she started massaging my legs she would occasionally run her fingers against my taint and balls, progressively more so as time went on, which was a nice tease.

After about 20-25 minutes in, we flipped over and after some light arm and lower leg massage, it became a lot more of a direct sensual handjob after some light teasing. There was a lot of oil and I thought it was actually basically the best handjob I've ever gotten. Lots of chest and nipple teasing with one hand while rubbing my balls and shaft and then eventually transitioning to full on stroking.

There was a brief moment after she had started the direct handjob when she paused to ask if I wanted her to take off her clothes for an additional cost, which I knew was something that happened and I passed on, but was kind of a turnoff briefly. She did tell me I could and should touch her ass and otherwise I wasn't super handsy / didn't really try and touch her otherwise; not that important to me.

In any case, I was generally pretty turned on starting about 15 minutes in with the teasing while still laying flat, and I came (by my typical standards) relatively fast, about 10 minutes after she started touching my cock directly. At this point it was 40 minutes in; I know because I had a watch on.

She cleaned me up and then did some light final massaging, and we wrapped about 10 minutes early and I went to shower, and technically left 5 minutes on the clock by the time I was dressed; all good by me.

Overall I thought it was a pretty good experience but I was personally not a fan of the overall facilities.

Summary / Learnings:

- Definitely just find every massage place's line ID and message them something asking for schedule and girls who are in, then book in advance. This would have saved me from my wasted trip to Koi Fish Spa, though Grabs are so cheap here I didn't really care.

- Prepare to subtract 2-3 points off their perceived attractiveness when you arrive.

- On any given day the rotation seems to have 2-3 girls different or missing at every place.

I've since reached out to all the usual suspects on Line: Pink X Station, Koi Fish Spa, All About Touch, Icha Icha, and Dream Massage.

Personally, I think basically none of the girls at Icha Icha are attractive, so I'm not going to pony up for their offerings. Likewise, the lineup at Koi Fish Spa seems mediocre. And this is just based on the touched up pics.

Pink X Station has a FEW attractive girls, but only in their model class which is more expensive. Dream Massage has 1-2 girls I'd consider attractive, and All About Touch also has 1-2 girls I'd consider attractive.

Next for me:

Overall, I enjoyed it and think 900 baht aka $25 is basically free. That said, I didn't leave thinking this was game changing like I had discovered a new hobby that I had to take part of. I'll probably look to go 1 more time (aka a second try) at All About Touch, which is known for having better facilities, and since I think 1 of the girls there is attractive.

Cheers all.

[BunkerBed]

In Chiang Mai right now and haven't previously been to any Thai massage parlors before. For anyone curious:

Koi Fish Spa:

I went late on Sunday (11 pm) without any advance planning, which I would advise against; it was kind of an impulse decision as I had winded down for the night. Basically, there were only two girls available and I thought both of them were very okay looking at best; not finding either attractive, I passed and left.

Daisuke by Lolita:

Having learned from the Koi Fish Spa experience, I first contacted them on Line and asked for the girls available + their schedules. I booked Tengmo (number 7 I think) and went in the evening around dinnertime.......Thanks a lot for this great report. This is exactly the massage walkthrough guide I need, since I haven't done massage as well. I will be in Chiang Mai next week and was of course also considering going to the usual Massage places. However, where to go if you want to spent the night with a nice girl? Are there any agents who can arrange or websites. Massage Republic looks awfully empty for Chiang Mai. I have found another website "cnxseed" which seems to be fairly up to date (it is in Thai but with google translate it is readable) but also here there are no real full services offered. Any ideas would be appreciated.

[Kjxyfthh]

In Chiang Mai right now and haven't previously been to any Thai massage parlors before. For anyone curious:.I went to all About Touch as mentioned and booked with Yaya.

Tl; dr:

- Very nice facilities (relatively), but way worse sensual massage / happy ending than at Lolita by Daisuke.

- Service was way more mechanical, didn't really like the vibes from the girl.

- Location is kind of annoying if you don't have a motorcycle / not very walkable from most common Old City accommodations / probably need to Grab.

Overview:

As should be pretty obvious from reviews and Google, the All About Touch building is new and much better than Lolita's, certainly. It feels clean and there's nothing janky about it, but it's certainly no spa experience either like you can find throughout CM for cheaper for legit massages.

I pre-booked using Line, which I recommend, as previously discussed, which went smoothly. The girls here seem a bit more in demand / the place is busier than Lolita, as it took me a few days to actually grab the time I wanted with Yaya (who was the only provider I was interested in that was available last week).

Experience:

Someone guided me up to a room, and then said "wait a minute" and I was just kind of left in the room for 10 minutes with no updates, not sure what I was supposed to do. Finally, 10 minutes in, Yaya showed up, and then seemed kind of confused / impatient that I hadn't already gone and showered / wasn't ready on my own, which I totally don't think is my problem. I guess the first step is always to go shower at these places, but no one told me anything / didn't know where the shower was / didn't want to wander around / not how it worked at Lolita.

Anyways, after the shower, I went back to the room, and Yaya basically didn't really say anything to me, which I found kind of off putting. I'm not expecting to be friends with the provider, or even to really chat much with them, but I'd like to at least feel even the slightest bit welcome. I thought that Tengmo from Lolita was quiet and demure but in comparison she was absolutely chatty and lovely comparatively, since the comparison was to silence.

In any case, whatever, I laid down for the massage and let her get to it. The actual massage was quite good, all things considered, but that's about the only positive. Listing out some thoughts:

- There was basically no "sensuality" to the massage except for the fact that I was naked. It was basically a totally regular massage the entire time up until the very end. At Lolita by Daisuke, the massage was very "flirty" and ramped up slowly in a teasing way, which was much more fun and erotic. At a certain point here I had basically forgotten it wasn't a regular massage parlour.

- The actual happy ending part was worse than at Lolita, where the provider there, as mentioned, and especially in retrospect, was very teasing (I. E. Rubbing balls, taint, chest / nipples, etc) before and during the actual handjob. This was essentially just pure handjob. Not that it was bad; it just was mechanical. Upside is that I lasted like 3 x longer because I wasn't all that turned on heading into, or frankly, during it.

- Yaya still basically said nothing to me the whole time which I found off putting. I'm not sure what's normal but at least for me and my limited experience, it made the whole thing feel a bit more awkward and cold than the prior experience.

- There was no upsell attempt or anything about touching her. As mentioned in my previous review, I don't really care about this, and my personal view is that I'm not going to grope a girl who doesn't say something to invite it, as the provider at Daisuke did.

Overall, for the price, whatever. It's like $12 USD more than getting a regular massage at a decent place, and the massage was actually decent and it beats doing the job yourself. That said, I had left Lolita kind of whelmed and in retrospect it was like 2 x a better experience than All About Touch comparatively even though I thought the provider was far more attractive.

Lastly, for some context, I'm relatively young (let's say the 25-35 range), in objectively good shape, and generally very respectful / don't say anything crass / didn't try and do anything beyond receive the massage, so I don't think anything about my demeanor could have put the girl off, but who knows.

In any case, I would not go with Yaya if you go to All About Touch.

Ultimately, I'm sure your experience depends a lot on a provider to provider basis, so I'm not prepared to judge the entire establishment. As an example, apparently Yuyie. So says reviews on Google and Line. Is a real sensual expert who'll rock your socks; I just don't find her attractive at all, so I didn't book her.

These two experiences are probably all I'll do before shipping off. All About Touch was so meh that I'll probably just get a few regular massages at nicer spas with better actual massages rather than return to any of these happy ending places.

Cheers.