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Junior11
02-23-23, 05:00
Helpful report, thanks!

I have not heard of Barra (the town) before. I will have to explore when I am in Rio as I am considering to stay there for a while.


I was in Brazil for about 6 weeks, of which two weeks was spent in Rio. I have been to Brazil before, but I am a newbie for the most part. I thought the best approach would be to just give my overall thoughts on things as that might provide more value.

Stayed in Copacabana for 14 days, had an AirBNB that was girl friendly. I had two friends with me, so the apartment was quite large. I must say that it was a struggle to find decent accommodation we paid through the nose for the place. Granted end of the year in Rio is a clusterfuck *but there were a few lessons learned. Given my tastes, I am likely to just spend a bit more and stay in Ipanema or Leblon next time. One question I have with regards to AirBNB is how frequently they are guest friendly? In future the preference would be to stay there rather than a hotel, the hotels are not great in Rio given the cost I must say. *.

I went to 4 termas - 4 x4, Solarium, Centaurus and Monte Carlo.

4 x4 was my favorite by far, loved the energy in the place and the selection of girls. Some nights I was doing multiple sessions there. Solarium was a bit more low key, but also very, VERY good. Monte Carlo did not have the same selection of girls I thought, but its close proximity to Copa made it convenient and I enjoyed it. Overall, when I return as a solo traveler next time I am going to spend the bulk of my time hunting in the termas I think, and will sprinkle in some massage therapists and girls from the clinicas.

Centaurus was a nightmare, which is unfortunate because the experience itself ended up being quite good with the girls in the room. Both me and my two friends were mauled when we got in there. There is one thing with the girls being aggressive, but we could not even get a drink in the damn place we were just being bombarded to the point we had to be rude with some of them. I actually suggested we walk, but both of my friends wanted to just stick it out and see how things went. I am assuming this is because they could see a mile away that we were tourists, but Ill never set foot in that place again.

The girls were relentless, and it was not fun at all with endless pressure to go to rooms and attempts to upsell before we even got halfway through a beer. I ended up taking two at once for a threesome, and even then the upselling did not stop. To the point that one of the girls disappears, then comes back to the room with a third girl! I had to threaten to leave before they accepted the no. At the end of the session, that same girl then pushed for a large tip and tried to convince me that I had not paid her yet, after which I said we would settle it downstairs and the bullshit stopped. Beyond that was a push for drugs too, obviously the plan is to get you inebriated and just accept everything they throw at you. I wish I could say that it was just me, both of my friends had similar experiences they said after we met downstairs. We spent all of 2. 5 hours in the club, of which 2 would have been in the rooms. We exited as soon as the sessions were finished rather than deal with anymore bullshit.

Its unfortunate because the threesome ended up being one of the best I ever had. Both of the girls where highly engaged with each other too, so even with the issues I had (and the cost! Not cheap!) the experience was very good. Both were great performers, and the quieter one who was feeling embarrassed by her friends antics I met outside the club on once occasion. She told me that competition is relentless there, and she was likely to go to a different club because it was getting worse with the girls behavior. The experience with her outside the club was very good too.

Pulled a ton of numbers from the boates and worked through a few girls though, as did my friends.

Dolce Vita on one occasion, while fun I preferred the Termas. Cost wise its the same and I just think you have better options at the termas.

We had 4 days in Barra, but got rained out a bit. I really liked Perola Negra, was disappointed that we only got to go once. I liked Barra a lot, however unless you have a car you are going to have to taxi everywhere. I can see why living here instead of Rio would appeal though, and I think once you get rolling in that place and build up a book of working girls and favorites it would be a pretty decent place to spend some time. If I was going to come to Rio for 3 months plus, I would likely choose Barra over Ipanama / Copa / Leblon area I think.

Also used the BarraVIPs site, must say I was surprised that even though the pics are photoshopped, the girls did match their profiles for the most part and I thought the value was reasonable.

Went to RJ Massagem, girls would not fuck on site but I got the number and ended up fucking a lady called Thais off site. She said all the girls should be available to meet outside, the owners were just strict about sex in the shop. Not sure how typical this is in Rio, in Sao Paulo was not the case at all.

No doubt this would have been cheaper if I spoke a bit more porto, was a solo traveler and had a bit more experience. On average though, the cost is not that much higher than Thailand these days all in when you consider the rate of the average barfine at a decent gogo. Sure you can fuck mongrels on Soi 6, but compared to what's at the termas and escorting the thai women are not in the same league not with these exchange rates.

LatinaLover#1
02-23-23, 05:53
The only question I have is, where is 4 x4? Is it called Whiskeria Quatro por Quatro on google maps?Quatro por Quatro and it's in town.

Jan 156
02-23-23, 07:02
Quatro por Quatro and it's in town.It's on Rua Buenos Aires and it's in Google Maps. Any taxi driver will know it, or it's a short walk from Uruguaiana Metro.

YankeeFan
02-23-23, 07:28
I appreciate the details, including price.


Landed in Rio about 9 in the morning from an overnight flight. The flight was ridiculously cheap so I decided to come even though I don't like large events like Carnaval.

Got to the hotel about 10:30 am and took a quick nap and went out on the hunt.

Av Treze de Maio, 47.

Didn't get to check out the privees because it was a hassle to get access to the building. It looks like you need a white card to get access to the building and there was a line I didn't feel like waiting for.

Av Treze de Maio, 33.

There were only 3 rooms on the 21st floor (2102,2103,2107) that I could find. Usually there have been many more on other floors but I couldn't find any or I missed them. I bailed on the search after the 15 floor.

All prices on the 21st floor start around 40 for like 15-20 minutes and go up to around 120 or more for an hour. Room 2102 had 3 older MILF types. Didn't session. Room 2103 had about 5 girls with mixed looks from tall and skinny, petite with some curves. Didn't session because I wanted to check out other floors first and there wasn't any grande bundas. Room 2107 had two girls, they were ok if you just wanted a quick but but nothing to write home about. They looked younger than the milfs but older than the girls in 2103.

Rio Branca 165,185.

Walked by the elevators and they had a similar set up to Maio 47. Have to get access to the elevators and there was a line and I didn't feel like waiting.

Uruguaiana 24.

About 12-14 girls in total. Most of the girls are at the bottom bar as you go up the dark spiral stairs. Similar body types as the privees on Maio 33. A few of the girls grabbed me and I think they quoted 60 or 70 for a quick session. Didn't session.

4 x4.

Got here around 3:30. A little too early but there were about 10-12 girls there with about 7-8 guys there. Much more variety and had the bundas I was looking for. Took a 25 year old with nice rotund bundaz forgot her name. Asked her what services she offered and she said she didn't have any restrictions. So I asked her everything I could think of and she agreed to it even bareback which I didn't do but was intrigued to see how she performed. We did an hour and she performed well. For me a stunner is lessed tied to a woman's physical looks and is more about how good her pussy feels (tight, wet, and warm). She didn't meet the stunner status for me but was enjoyable. We had to bail on anal because I forgot the lube and she could fit it in without her being in pain.

Went back down to the bar area, more girls and more guys. Soon as I sat down for approached over and over again. Told them I was leaving in a little and didn't want company at this time. Left and paid $440 in total for sex, room and two cokes.

Whiskeria 65.

My last time here I found huge bundas and great pussy so I always check it out. The terma doesn't have the variety 4 x4 have and usually have bigger curvier women. There were a couple girls that didn't fit the mode with small bundas, breast but pretty faces. Most were very thick. There were about 20 girls there and about ten guys. I picked the biggest ass to waist I could find. Asked her about her services and again I got no restrictions. Off to the room we went and got two nuts out of it. Was about to get in the ass and she could take a pounding. Actually she out pounded me and after my second nut she wanted to fuck more. She said let's do two more sessions and she wouldn't charge me extras. I was spent and tapped out. She told me Brazilian women like to fuck a lot and daily. I was like I come from a sex starved barren wasteland and can't keep up. She laughed and asked for my number and asked if she could come stay with me. I told her we can talk about but I know I probably won't because it's just too much pussy and other places to be explored in Rio. And I rather sleep by myself. And speaking of sleep, I was dead tired but satisfied at this point and went to the hotel to rest. More exploration to come.

Turgid
02-23-23, 14:49
....... She said let's do two more sessions and she wouldn't charge me extras. I was spent and tapped out. She told me Brazilian women like to fuck a lot and daily.......This is a fact. Reminds me of a Solarium babe who masturbated right after my session with her when I could go no more. Someone should do a study as to why Brazilian women are like this and why US women are the opposite.

The Cane
02-23-23, 15:07
It's on Rua Buenos Aires and it's in Google Maps. Any taxi driver will know it, or it's a short walk from Uruguaiana Metro.You think? You would think any taxi driver would know it, but the last time I went the guy didn't know where he was going and missed a crucial turn. That resulted in us getting stuck in a massive traffic jam! I was steamed because I knew every minute I spent stuck in traffic meant that the best "snatch" was getting snatched up! I finally decided to pay the guy and got out and walked the rest of the way. Let him sit there in gridlocked traffic due to his own error. I got some cuzinhas to drill! Come to think of it, for whatever reason the cab drivers were pretty bad the last few times I was in Brazil. I mean worse than usual. Not knowing the cities, unsafe driving, etc. I was riding with one idiot who couldn't find Centaurus! I told him to stop, paid him, and got out and hailed another taxi who took me right there. Then in Porto Alegre I was riding with another doofus who still got lost using GPS! WTF? He did take some money off of the fare, which was only the right thing to do. Then in Sampa I was riding with a driver who almost hit a pedestrian due to not keeping his eyes on the road! I had to yell out to alert him. The pedestrian should not have been in the crosswalk, but he was and he would not have come close to getting hit if the cab driver had kept his eyes on the road. During my very first trip to Sampa, I didn't know the lay of the land and this taxi driver took me way out of the way from Moema to downtown to Rua Augusta on a Sunday! I say again. WTF? I knew something didn't feel right, but with it being my very first time in Sao Paulo I wasn't sure. Well, I got to see some of downtown and made a note to come back on another Sunday, but I eventually hailed another taxi to take me to the clinica I wanted to visit at the time. I had cuzinhas to drill!

Axel Heyst
02-23-23, 15:50
This is a fact. Reminds me of a Solarium babe who masturbated right after my session with her when I could go no more. Someone should do a study as to why Brazilian women are like this and why US women are the opposite.Yeah, I have had many Brazilian girls that want to achieve organism as much as I do. On a number of occasions, I have cum, but the girl kept going. I stayed inside her pussy semi hard, hangin' on best I could, ha ha, until she got me hard again and then away we went. It is really nice to be with girls like that, but to be fair, I have experienced the same thing with girls in Makati, AC, Phnom Penh, and Jakarta.

But you ask the basic question; why are the vast majority of American girls a pain in the ass and not fun to be with. The answer is Suffragette, the Women's Liberation Movement, and the embedding of this toxic feminist political movement inside the Democratic Party. This political movement is responsible for destroying the attitudes of most American girls which is why male / female relations in the USA is so unhappy. For example, before Suffragette there used to "houses" ie casas in nearly every county circuit in the USA. Men had a place to relax, socialize, have a few drinks, and get laid before going home to the family. Remember the family? That's gone. Girls used to be raised to be woman, wives, and mothers. To take care of their men. Not anymore. Girls are indoctrinated to go to work in cubicles and to rely on the government, not their families, when they get old. Good luck with that!

And don't forget before they destroyed American womanhood these sanctimonious fascists gave us: prohibition. That was a brilliant idea. Now these geniuses are telling us that anyone can be a woman or a man at anytime. How many of you guys agree with that one? UHM? Specifically, who here thinks a ladyboy is a girl? So, thanks to the Feminazis and the radical Left, the USA is solely a place to work & make money and most Americans of both sexes are unhappy even if many don't want to admit it.

Luckily there are still a few places left like Brazil where men can still have a good time with man friendly, unindoctrinated girls. But for how long? That is the question. As I posted before, I just need another 15 years. Then I will hang up my spurs, rent a condo on a beach in southern Thailand, and live out the remainder of my life with my favorite girl, who at the present moment is a sexy Scandallo spinner.

Markon
02-23-23, 15:56
Thanks for the input. I assume the girl is fluent in English if you are chatting and not texting and not translating to English unless you are fluent in Portuguese. The other site I saw was private55.com. I'm trying to do as much research in advance and have a list of potentials when I arrive. That would mean I have price, positive TDs, etc. Before I reach out to contact them when I'm there.


I never got canned responses and found myself chatting with the girl who advertised herself. I would say where I was, what services I was looking for, when I wanted to meet, etc. She would reply with what she did and did not do, her prices, her availability and so on. Try it. You might like it. Too much worrying, nay saying, and excuses around here lately!

The Cane
02-23-23, 16:17
Thanks for the input. I assume the girl is fluent in English if you are chatting and not texting and not translating to English unless you are fluent in Portuguese. The other site I saw was private55.com. I'm trying to do as much research in advance and have a list of potentials when I arrive. That would mean I have price, positive TDs, etc. Before I reach out to contact them when I'm there.Some have been fluent in English and proud to show that off. Some only understand Portuguese (the majority), and that's where online translators have been my friends. What I usually do is make my initial contact in Portuguese and pretty quickly let them know that I'm not Brazilian and using a translator (no surprises). If the girl speaks English, then she will often respond that way. If it's Portuguese only that she knows, then she responds with that and it's fine since I can easily translate everything I need to know. Now it's not like I don't understand anything in Portuguese and have to translate every single thing. I can read simple Portuguese (my Spanish does help) and easily understand when they're quoting prices for the "standard" kinds of services offered. And I'm not worrying about the girls trying to jack the price up because they know I'm a gringo. I do the research and know what the price ought to be, and I can immediately counter with something that's fair and firm if they're quoting stupid rates. I've never had any problems with the pricing really. For example, I found the porn star Elisa Sanches on Rio Sex Site (our WhatsApp chats were 100% in Portuguese), and couldn't believe she was only charging me like 300 reals per hour with anal and BBBJ all included! Don't remember the exact amount, but it was def in the 300's, and that was when the exchange rate was probably around 4 to 1 at least. Once I met her in person, I found out that she was fluent in Spanish, so all of our communication was in that language going forward. Rio Sex Site: https://www.riosexsite.com/. Notice the mix of lighter and darker girls on that site. That's representative of what you can find in Rio. You won't have a problem finding either in the Marvelous City.

Junior11
02-23-23, 18:31
Thanks for the complete agenda for a day and some humor on top: the!


I respect and value your posts too and enjoyed our lunch out there at Na Brasa Colombia at Olegario Maciel 7 in Barra the Tijuca. BTW, the pro forma proper tour of Barra is a topic of interest and would include 1) classico beach club anytime during daylight, 2) a meal or drink at Na Brasa, 3) Perola Negra, Ave de Pepe 400,4) Paris Cafe, 5) tell the cab driver to go by Posto 10 -12 where there are often some top top tier hoars street walking. All in one, 8 hours. Hydrate.

OK, so, the customer is always right. It's FU money, so our man fucked, and it's all good.

That said, it is possible, even with 24 hours to get numbers and vamos fugir, as the song goes.

First, I would say, always go to a prive, like Darkroom or Emporio, which is less than 300 meters away and blow a load. Half hour 100 reais. Always hot tail there, as good as Lua, whose number I had from talking to here in 4 x4, but had not risen to the top of the roledex (the perola girls are better IMHO).

https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/massagistas

Then go to 4 x4, say 17 h or 18 h. Get numbers. Be specific, and fast. "Vou conversar no zap. Quero marcar no hotel hoje" Having blown a load up Nani's or Monique's hot box (and Monique at Emporio is hotter than Lua, IMHO; and Nani too, for those who prefer a whiter shade of pale), one is perhaps sated for 6 hours.

Maybe go over to Ganjah Coffee Shop at Rua Rezende, chill a little.

Leave 4 x4 and set up a link up at a hotel off of guiadomoteis. Send her the link, the address.

https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro

For example, Sheik. Suite com hidro. OK. It's not the Marriot, maybe beds are not as good, but you're there to fuck multiple times, hopefully BBFS with tests, right? And the Hidro. I always love a hidro. The uber from 4 x4 at say 22 h or 23 h to Sheik is like 10 minutes.

I'm not sayin there is anything wrong with paying the house 500 reais, but they put the numbers for the girls on the fkn website for a reason. The locals never pay 1100 take out pernoite. Why would you not save the 500, and take Nani or Monique or a Darkroom girl in 2 or 3 of her hot holes for a half hour instead? Or you could go to 116, and find a fine morena like Cereja, or any number of other girls there, some of whom prefer to go to 116 instead of 4 x4. And I got to tell ya, Cereja has like a Monica Mattos ass, like the kind of ass that would make you want to quit the rich world gig you have and go into porn. She also has a boyfriend and is from Jacarazinho, where the police and the traficantes are stacking up bodies like firewood, so, it might not be love, but it makes for a spicy session.

Nani, oh, tits with marks do bikini like monica mattos, and suckable, little pert nipples. And what a nice tight pussy. It's the little things, you know. 500 reais? Donate it to the management and the nice English speaking lady, or suck on nani's tits 5 more times and violate her teen box again with your cock? Man, I don't know, maybe I have gone native, but for my 500 Lula's, I want Nani's lips wrapped around my bratwurst another 5 times than to talk to a nice English speaking lady who smiles while she is fucking me.

Sperto
02-23-23, 20:07
I did some shopping in Copacabana today and couldn't resist passing by Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 583, sala 206. The petite Marcela run up to me hoping for a rerun. Instead I checked out the other girls. A mulata with really big tits came and presented herself. When asking if her tits were natural she opened up bikini top. Two really large natural tits popped out. Wow, what a sight for a tit-lover. There were no need for more girls to be presented.

Rafaela, mulata, 24 years, cute, very big, heavy and firm natural tits (even though one kid), mediumsized bubblebutt and a shaved fat carnuda-pussy. She allowed photos so we started with some photos, excellent BBBJ, titfuck and sex in different position. We finished with a combination of titfuck and BBBJCIM. On her own initiative she did a good attempt to swallow it all. She's a sweet girl who gives an impression to enjoy her work. 100 reais /60 minutes. She lives in Magé so she only shows up occasionally in the privê. She offered her phone number and whatsapp, but I declined. I only collect phone numbers to regular girls.

As mentioned before the standard on the privê could be better. Cabinwalls doesn't go up to the roof so you will clearly here other people fucking and having conversations. When Rafaela was giving BJ she pulled out the dick and told her friends to order frango milanesa.

Xpartan
02-24-23, 06:26
I did some shopping in Copacabana today and couldn't resist passing by Avenida Nossa Senhora de Copacabana 583, sala 206. The petite Marcela run up to me hoping for a rerun. Instead I checked out the other girls. A mulata with really big tits came and presented herself. When asking if her tits were natural she opened up bikini top. Two really large natural tits popped out. Wow, what a sight for a tit-lover. There were no need for more girls to be presented.

Rafaela, mulata, 24 years, cute, very big, heavy and firm natural tits (even though one kid), mediumsized bubblebutt and a shaved fat carnuda-pussy. She allowed photos so we started with some photos, excellent BBBJ, titfuck and sex in different position. We finished with a combination of titfuck and BBBJCIM. On her own initiative she did a good attempt to swallow it all. She's a sweet girl who gives an impression to enjoy her work. 100 reais /60 minutes. She lives in Mag so she only shows up occasionally in the priv. She offered her phone number and whatsapp, but I declined. I only collect phone numbers to regular girls.

As mentioned before the standard on the priv could be better. Cabinwalls doesn't go up to the roof so you will clearly here other people fucking and having conversations. When Rafaela was giving BJ she pulled out the dick and told her friends to order frango milanesa.I'm almost sure you meant 200 reais for 60 minutes, but please, please tell me I'm wrong, kkkk.

TjBrazil
02-24-23, 10:06
Have you guys used your credit or debit card at any of the big established termas. I know they say don't use them at restaurants because the servers can clone them but are termas pretty safe to use cards. I want to use my debit card at the top termas so I don't have to deal with the ATM so much. I plan on doing a bunch of three ways this trip and don't want to carry all that cash around. Anyone have good or bad experiences using cards in Rio.

Turgid
02-24-23, 14:37
....Rafaela, mulata, 24 years, cute, very big, heavy and firm natural tits (even though one kid), mediumsized bubblebutt and a shaved fat carnuda-pussy. She allowed photos so we started with some photos......Ahem! Ahem!

Turgid
02-24-23, 14:44
Yeah, I have had many Brazilian girls that want to achieve organism as much as I do. On a number of occasions, I have cum, but the girl kept going. I stayed inside her pussy semi hard, hangin' on best I could, ha ha, until she got me hard again and then away we went. It is really nice to be with girls like that, but to be fair, I have experienced the same thing with girls in Makati, AC, Phnom Penh, and Jakarta.

But you ask the basic question; why are the vast majority of American girls a pain in the ass and not fun to be with. The answer is Suffragette, the Women's Liberation Movement, and the embedding of this toxic feminist political movement inside the Democratic Party. This political movement is responsible for destroying the attitudes of most American girls which is why male / female relations in the USA is so unhappy. For example, before Suffragette there used to "houses" ie casas in nearly every county circuit in the USA. Men had a place to relax, socialize, have a few drinks, and get laid before going home to the family. Remember the family? That's gone. Girls used to be raised to be woman, wives, and mothers. To take care of their men. Not anymore. Girls are indoctrinated to go to work in cubicles and to rely on the government, not their families, when they get old. Good luck with that!

And don't forget before they destroyed American womanhood these sanctimonious fascists gave us: prohibition. That was a brilliant idea. Now these geniuses are telling us that anyone can be a woman or a man at anytime. How many of you guys agree with that one? UHM? Specifically, who here thinks a ladyboy is a girl? So, thanks to the Feminazis and the radical Left, the USA is solely a place to work & make money and most Americans of both sexes are unhappy even if many don't want to admit it.

Luckily there are still a few places left like Brazil where men can still have a good time with man friendly, unindoctrinated girls. But for how long? That is the question. As I posted before, I just need another 15 years. Then I will hang up my spurs, rent a condo on a beach in southern Thailand, and live out the remainder of my life with my favorite girl, who at the present moment is a sexy Scandallo spinner.I have more or less settled on Thailand as the place I wish to spend my last days. However, my greatest fear of that country are transexuals who have converted their dicks to vaginas.

Sperto
02-24-23, 19:15
I'm almost sure you meant 200 reais for 60 minutes, but please, please tell me I'm wrong, kkkk.Sorry, it should be 100 reais /30 minutes (BTW 150 reais /60 min).


Ahem! Ahem!Meaning?

Axel Heyst
02-24-23, 20:59
Have you guys used your credit or debit card at any of the big established termas. I know they say don't use them at restaurants because the servers can clone them but are termas pretty safe to use cards. I want to use my debit card at the top termas so I don't have to deal with the ATM so much. I plan on doing a bunch of three ways this trip and don't want to carry all that cash around. Anyone have good or bad experiences using cards in Rio.I use my credit cards at all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, uber rides, and termas in RJ and all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, clinicas, and boates in SP. I have never been ripped off. On extremely rare occasions (like once every 3 or 4 years) I might see a fraudulent charge on my account. I report it to the bank, they freeze the account, remove the charge, and I move on to different credit card until I go home. So where is the risk? There is none.

Debit cards are another story. I am very careful in the use of my debit cards. I never use them for purchases. I bring many CC's with me on a trip, but I only bring 2 debit cards. My main debit card is issued by Schwab. I only use my Schwab debit card to withdraw cash from my Schwab checking account. I only use ATM machines inside the 2 major Brazilian banks and 5-star hotels. All ATM fees and bank charges are reimbursed to my Schwab account at the end of the month. I also carry a backup debit card issued by Needham Bank (which is zero ATM fees as well) just in case something happens to my Schwab debit card like it is stolen, lost, or destroyed. Cash is for the girls and those rare situations where a CC is not accepted.

Mr Enternational
02-24-23, 21:41
Have you guys used your credit or debit card at any of the big established termas. I know they say don't use them at restaurants because the servers can clone them but are termas pretty safe to use cards. I want to use my debit card at the top termas so I don't have to deal with the ATM so much.They who? I always use my card at restaurants. I do not use cash. Why would you pay with a card at a termas when they will add an extra fee? You guys make traveling and fucking hookers out to be the most complicated things.

Vagabundo1
02-24-23, 21:46
That's a good price for Copa.


Sorry, it should be 100 reais /30 minutes (BTW 150 reais /60 min).

Meaning?

PoonyD
02-24-23, 22:19
Thanks for telling the full uncut truth about Vila Mimosa and Mosaico and what can be expected in those places. Definitely not the places for me. But how are the rooms at Mosaico? Don't like the prospect of having to fuck standing up with my shoes on LOL! But, maybe you can pull a tute out of there for takeout? I know you said that's not your thing (mostly not mine either) but that's the only way I'm fucking somebody found at Mosaico ha! Also, how many good-looking brancas did you see up in there, if any? Be honest! And thanks for the frank report!Sorry for the late reply. This thread is pretty active and harder to keep up with for me. Mosaico rooms were actually pretty clean with ac. Only issue is no shower in the room. They have a shower available tho.

PoonyD
02-24-23, 22:25
Theoretically, yes, and they promise the driver will wait for you in case you're late. However, I've tried it twice (both times in Brazil), and it's never worked for me.I don't think it's necessary just call the uber after you get through customs and immigration. I didn't have to wait long at all. You have to go upstairs to the second floor if I remember correctly. The taxis are all on the 1st floor.

TjBrazil
02-24-23, 23:18
Now that the pandemic is over, is hooker beach in front of othon palace picking up or is it still dead. Can someone on the ground report.

Axel Heyst
02-25-23, 01:56
They who? I always use my card at restaurants. I do not use cash. Why would you pay with a card at a termas when they will add an extra fee? You guys make traveling and fucking hookers out to be the most complicated things.Yeah, they (termas, clinicas & boates) tack a fee on top of their price for the use of a CC. I can't say I like the practice, but I still charge at these places because 1. While I am on the road cash is limited, but my credit is not. 2. It is more convenient plus I don't have to carry around much cash. 3. I get back 2% on my CC charges which mitigates a portion of what the bordello is charging for the card. OK 3 was lame because I am still paying around 5% net to charge the card. 4. But, when I am back home and relaxing after a 2-month trip, I do not give a damn about the cumulative bordello CC usage fees I amassed over the length of that voyage. They are meaningless in the big picture.

Now as I previously posted, I prefer to give cash to my girls and what I am specifically referring to here is my financial relationship with SP Boate girls. In SP Boates customers can put the girl's fee on their CC (for a fee) separate from room charges and the bar tabs. I prefer to pay my girls afterwards. I also want my girls to see me take the cash out of my pocket and give it straight to her. No clerks or any third parties involved in our private affair. Anyway, I give the boate girls their money from my cash supply and put every other boate charge on the CC's. The only exception is on those fun nights when I do a 2nd girl and I did not bring enough cash to cover both girls.

Torgoch
02-25-23, 08:09
Meaning?I think its a hint to show some photos of this marvellous breast-laden beauty.

TjBrazil
02-25-23, 11:50
They who? I always use my card at restaurants. I do not use cash. Why would you pay with a card at a termas when they will add an extra fee? You guys make traveling and fucking hookers out to be the most complicated things.The termas charge a fee for cards? My bank doesn't charge a international fee which is why I want to use it at all the termas instead of taking out from the ATM. If that's the fee you were referring too.

TjBrazil
02-25-23, 12:11
I use my credit cards at all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, uber rides, and termas in RJ and all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, clinicas, and boates in SP. I have never been ripped off. On extremely rare occasions (like once every 3 or 4 years) I might see a fraudulent charge on my account. I report it to the bank, they freeze the account, remove the charge, and I move on to different credit card until I go home. So where is the risk? There is none.

Debit cards are another story. I am very careful in the use of my debit cards. I never use them for purchases. I bring many CC's with me on a trip, but I only bring 2 debit cards. My main debit card is issued by Schwab. I only use my Schwab debit card to withdraw cash from my Schwab checking account. I only use ATM machines inside the 2 major Brazilian banks and 5-star hotels. All ATM fees and bank charges are reimbursed to my Schwab account at the end of the month. I also carry a backup debit card issued by Needham Bank (which is zero ATM fees as well) just in case something happens to my Schwab debit card like it is stolen, lost, or destroyed. Cash is for the girls and those rare situations where a CC is not accepted.I only have 2 debit cards. I defaulted on all my credit card debt during the pandemic. Seemed like a good time to screw the banks. That being said, I have never used my cards in 15 years of mongering at restaurants, stores, or hooker places like termas or casas. Only used them at ATM machines and hotels when I check in. So far no fraud from using at those 2 places. Want to branch out this trip and rely less on ATM withdrawal and cambios. I can separate checking from savings, so I can transfer money from savings to checking as needed.

TjBrazil
02-25-23, 12:16
I don't think it's necessary just call the uber after you get through customs and immigration. I didn't have to wait long at all. You have to go upstairs to the second floor if I remember correctly. The taxis are all on the 1st floor.I went to the second floor and the wi fi wasn't working to call an Uber. I ended up paying 20 bucks to the taxi which would have got me an Uber black car. Maybe this trip the Wi-Fi at the airport is fixed. Is is 2023, you would think they would get their head out of their asses by now.

Vagabundo1
02-25-23, 13:55
Not only are Mosaico rooms pretty clean, there is actually a Elisa Sanches Suite!

Senor Cane and Senor Vagabundo often spar in this August forum, but we have both fucked Elisa Sanches!

Furthermore, the genius thing about Mosaico is that all the tier 1 Zona Sul terma girls have a depreciating ass-et, and if they don't get a bratwurst up their ass by midnight at 4 x 4 or Solarium, they go to Mosaico to put their ass's on sale by 50%, meaning the same ass you could fuck at 4 x 4 for 400 will be 200 at Mosaico -- after midnight, as Clapton sang about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkrA-gSG-vE

But nota bene, if you look like Clapton in this video, ie, a old dude, you might not be best advised to go to Mosaico. Or you might want to go in a group. Because the bitches are looking for young dick, young lean Carioca dudes, who wear Vasco shirts. The Military Police are carrying FN-FAL's with para folding stocks in 7. 62 (sete meia dois) NATO, and they come up to the rails and they get numbers from the girls too. It is no country for old men.

That said, the best quality 18 year old 4 x 4 girls go to Mosaico / VM because it is the border line between rich zona sul and poor zona norte.

I recommend 116 first to get acclimated to the more extreme environ of Mosaico. And wear a vasco shirt. If you are some prima donna who is too worried about sand in your shoes to go to the beach, then wash the fucking sand out of your pussy lips and stay at home.


Sorry for the late reply. This thread is pretty active and harder to keep up with for me. Mosaico rooms were actually pretty clean with ac. Only issue is no shower in the room. They have a shower available tho.

HKS11
02-25-23, 15:14
Can anyone comment on June or July in Rio regarding weather, beaches, parties, termas, prives, etc? Wondering if it is worth it to go in these months?

Turgid
02-25-23, 15:35
I think its a hint to show some photos of this marvellous breast-laden beauty.I always shared photos of babes' big booties during my trips to SP. It would be nice to see some bountiful boobies.

Nordico
02-25-23, 15:36
I only have 2 debit cards. I defaulted on all my credit card debt during the pandemic. Seemed like a good time to screw the banks. That being said, I have never used my cards in 15 years of mongering at restaurants, stores, or hooker places like termas or casas. Only used them at ATM machines and hotels when I check in. So far no fraud from using at those 2 places. Want to branch out this trip and rely less on ATM withdrawal and cambios. I can separate checking from savings, so I can transfer money from savings to checking as needed.If you are worried about your cards being cloned, use Apple pay or similar. My last trip I used it for all the payments except the girls I paid with cash.

The Cane
02-25-23, 16:34
If you are worried about your cards being cloned, use Apple pay or similar. My last trip I used it for all the payments except the girls I paid with cash.More and more is pay by tap these days, so far less concerns about cloning. I have been virtually cash free in the States over the last three years! On a mongering trip I would want to have plenty of cash to pay the girls. I pull that from ATMs from a reputable bank like Bradesco from a safe environment (enclosed setting off of the street). I typically will have enough on me that I will just go ahead and pay for meals, drinks, and any other relatively small costs with cash as well. Bigger costs like the hotel bill go on a credit card. But as long as we're tapping any fear of cloning can be dismissed.

Junior11
02-25-23, 17:27
I wonder if you got many answers to this poll.


Top Rio Talent? Pernoites.

Who are your top A) prive girls, B) terma girls C) freelancers?

Junior11
02-25-23, 17:32
Question for those who know both cities well.

What are the similarities and differences of Rio and Medellin in terms of monger safety and scams?

Vagabundo1
02-25-23, 17:36
Yours is the first.


I wonder if you got many answers to this poll.

TjBrazil
02-25-23, 20:49
If you are worried about your cards being cloned, use Apple pay or similar. My last trip I used it for all the payments except the girls I paid with cash.I don't bring my iPhone on vacation. I have a beat up Samsung with cracks everywhere for mongering. They will kill you for a iPhone. There is a reason I haven't been robbed in 15 years of mongering. No expensive stuff on display.

PoonyD
02-26-23, 00:01
I went to the second floor and the wi fi wasn't working to call an Uber. I ended up paying 20 bucks to the taxi which would have got me an Uber black car. Maybe this trip the Wi-Fi at the airport is fixed. Is is 2023, you would think they would get their head out of their asses by now.Yeah that airport wifi sucked ass. I have a Google fi phone for when I travel. I use tge flexible plan and only turn it on the day before I leave the country. I have used it all over the world and never have issues. Very inexpensive.

PoonyD
02-26-23, 00:15
Not only are Mosaico rooms pretty clean, there is actually a Elisa Sanches Suite!

Senor Cane and Senor Vagabundo often spar in this August forum, but we have both fucked Elisa Sanches!

Furthermore, the genius thing about Mosaico is that all the tier 1 Zona Sul terma girls have a depreciating ass-et, and if they don't get a bratwurst up their ass by midnight at 4 x 4 or Solarium, they go to Mosaico to put their ass's on sale by 50%, meaning the same ass you could fuck at 4 x 4 for 400 will be 200 at Mosaico -- after midnight, as Clapton sang about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkrA-gSG-vE

But nota bene, if you look like Clapton in this video, ie, a old dude, you might not be best advised to go to Mosaico. Or you might want to go in a group. Because the bitches are looking for young dick, young lean Carioca dudes, who wear Vasco shirts. The Military Police are carrying FN-FAL's with para folding stocks in 7. 62 (sete meia dois) NATO, and they come up to the rails and they get numbers from the girls too. It is no country for old men.

That said, the best quality 18 year old 4 x 4 girls go to Mosaico / VM because it is the border line between rich zona sul and poor zona norte.

I recommend 116 first to get acclimated to the more extreme environ of Mosaico. And wear a vasco shirt. If you are some prima donna who is too worried about sand in your shoes to go to the beach, then wash the fucking sand out of your pussy lips and stay at home.Yeah mosaico was by far my favorite spot of the trip. They have plenty of variety and I had nothing but good experiences there. My boy pulled a dud but I had 2 different girls who were decent performers that both finished me off with some head game that was next level and they swallowed my kids. And this was for the half hour 150 reals with no additional upcharge.

Mr Enternational
02-26-23, 02:26
I don't bring my iPhone on vacation. I have a beat up Samsung with cracks everywhere for mongering. They will kill you for a iPhone. There is a reason I haven't been robbed in 15 years of mongering. No expensive stuff on display.Well that is not the reason. They rob you because they are robbing you, not because they see you have a certain type of phone. What is the reason that I have not been robbed ever? The only phone I have is a Samsung Note 20 Ultra and it goes everywhere with me.

Xpartan
02-26-23, 02:52
I only have 2 debit cards. I defaulted on all my credit card debt during the pandemic. Seemed like a good time to screw the banks. That being said, I have never used my cards in 15 years of mongering at restaurants, stores, or hooker places like termas or casas. Only used them at ATM machines and hotels when I check in. So far no fraud from using at those 2 places. Want to branch out this trip and rely less on ATM withdrawal and cambios. I can separate checking from savings, so I can transfer money from savings to checking as needed.Protection from debit cards sucks. You must be extremely careful and check your account every second day, while credit cards will not hold you liable for any unauthorized transactions. I don't even worry about a credit card fraud, but aside from Schwab (abroad), I never use debit cards if I can help it.

Xpartan
02-26-23, 02:57
Can anyone comment on June or July in Rio regarding weather, beaches, parties, termas, prives, etc? Wondering if it is worth it to go in these months?I love winters in Rio, although I'm probably in minority. It's still warm and sometimes hot, but can be cool and very pleasant in the evenings, plus the beaches are a little less crowded. As for the venues you've mentioned, they have nothing to do with the season. Everything stays open.

TjBrazil
02-26-23, 04:12
I was on the gparena website and clicked on termas. I never heard of some of these. Can you guys let me know if these are worth going too or just go to the ones that have at least 15 reviews:

Das Flores.

Red night 21.

Black and white.

Rios American bar.

Vilar.

Altas horas.

Papitos.

Pepper club.

Refugio.

1308.

The Critic
02-26-23, 09:36
Yeah that airport wifi sucked ass. I have a Google fi phone for when I travel. I use tge flexible plan and only turn it on the day before I leave the country. I have used it all over the world and never have issues. Very inexpensive.I concur. Google FI allows me to start communicating as soon as the plane lands on the Runway LOL! Never an issue with WiFi in Airport (GIG) I go straight to the Uber pick up area and catch my ride. Everybody should at least research or try to see if it fits their individual needs. https://fi.google.com/about.

Nounce
02-26-23, 10:35
If you are worried about your cards being cloned, use Apple pay or similar. My last trip I used it for all the payments except the girls I paid with cash.It doesn't always work for some reason. Usually these are the merchants that want you to select currency so they can make some money out of it. It seem to work most of the time in smaller city that the currency selection rarely come up.

Nounce
02-26-23, 10:45
Question for those who know both cities well.

What are the similarities and differences of Rio and Medellin in terms of monger safety and scams?They are both close to favelas. Online dating is more dangerous in Medellin.

TjBrazil
02-26-23, 11:44
I concur. Google FI allows me to start communicating as soon as the plane lands on the Runway LOL! Never an issue with WiFi in Airport (GIG) I go straight to the Uber pick up area and catch my ride. Everybody should at least research or try to see if it fits their individual needs. https://fi.google.com/about.So is Google FI data or Wi-Fi in Brazil. Since you can't get a Brazilian SIM card in Brazil like Mexico, does google fi give you a new number with data and Wi-Fi. You would be using data in Brazil with google fi. Is that correct.

Rocko20
02-26-23, 14:12
I use my credit cards at all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, uber rides, and termas in RJ and all restaurants, grocery stores, hotels, clinicas, and boates in SP. I have never been ripped off. On extremely rare occasions (like once every 3 or 4 years) I might see a fraudulent charge on my account. I report it to the bank, they freeze the account, remove the charge, and I move on to different credit card until I go home. So where is the risk? There is none.

Debit cards are another story. I am very careful in the use of my debit cards. I never use them for purchases. I bring many CC's with me on a trip, but I only bring 2 debit cards. My main debit card is issued by Schwab. I only use my Schwab debit card to withdraw cash from my Schwab checking account. I only use ATM machines inside the 2 major Brazilian banks and 5-star hotels. All ATM fees and bank charges are reimbursed to my Schwab account at the end of the month. I also carry a backup debit card issued by Needham Bank (which is zero ATM fees as well) just in case something happens to my Schwab debit card like it is stolen, lost, or destroyed. Cash is for the girls and those rare situations where a CC is not accepted.I agree. I carry multiple CC and debit cards when traveling (stored in a safe location), but I also subscribed to identity theft monitoring (Identity Force) for additional security.

At the end of the day, I really only carry or take out cash for women. And most of that cash will be stored in a safe location and not on me.

RioHeart
02-26-23, 18:41
I concur. Google FI allows me to start communicating as soon as the plane lands on the Runway LOL! Never an issue with WiFi in Airport (GIG) I go straight to the Uber pick up area and catch my ride. Everybody should at least research or try to see if it fits their individual needs. https://fi.google.com/about.Read the fine print! Google fi only works for 3 months internationally. Worked great for 3 months and they cut off my data stating a clause that said Fi should but used in the United States. Left me high and dry. Had to get a Claro sim card. Email from Fi stated if I return to US then would reinstate data. I didn't even use a lot of data. About 4 gb a month. Never again!

Nordico
02-26-23, 21:07
They are both close to favelas. Online dating is more dangerous in Medellin.The Secretariat of Public Security of São Paulo (SSP) told BBC News Brasil that "more than 90% of the kidnappings registered in São Paulo are made from relationships formed from false profiles created in applications such as Tinder. https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-63733202.

Gropai
02-27-23, 00:17
The Secretariat of Public Security of So Paulo (SSP) told BBC News Brasil that "more than 90% of the kidnappings registered in So Paulo are made from relationships formed from false profiles created in applications such as Tinder. https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-63733202.This doesn't mean Tinder dates are dangerous. It's like saying 100% of car accidents involve driving a car, but it doesn't mean driving is dangerous.

AcesOnTheRiver
02-27-23, 07:47
Hello guys, I'm going to Rio in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone can help out a newb. I consistently contribute to cartagena trip reports, but first time in Rio and will report back. Through basic research, I plan visit some of the famous termas (Centaurus, 4 x4, Monte carlo) and couple massge spots (RJ massage). Any comments on those?

My main question is, night clubs. Are there any night clubs similar to (LDV or Space in Cartagena) where you can drink, hang out, but all the girls there are working girls, therefore, your work is cut out for you. And my second question is strip clubs- if I'm interested in taking back to my abnb, is strip clubs a good choice? Are there high take out fees? And what is the best option for someone looking for take out?

Thanks guys! Much appreciated.

I would LOVE to help anyone about CTG, been there 10+ times. I'm a self proclaimed vet hahah.

Mr Enternational
02-27-23, 11:09
This doesn't mean Tinder dates are dangerous. It's like saying 100% of car accidents involve driving a car, but it doesn't mean driving is dangerous.But driving IS dangerous! Thing with automobiles and firearms is that too many people act like they are not dangerous and do not respect them as such. And that is how mfs get killed! Always wear your seatbelt and never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to pull it exist for a reason.

SilverFoz
02-27-23, 12:50
Now that the pandemic is over, is hooker beach in front of othon palace picking up or is it still dead. Can someone on the ground report.I'the never heard of this specific spot, but your question titillated me so I took a visit yesterday. Whilst I can't speak for what it used to be like, I can confirm that three young and pretty WGs (all solid 7's+) did indeed come and position themselves right in front of me on the beach yesterday afternoon, and brazenly proceeded to work on the suntan between their upper thighs! I'm currently working on one of them through WhatsApp, but her expectations are currently rather high for me!

PoonyD
02-27-23, 14:23
So is Google FI data or Wi-Fi in Brazil. Since you can't get a Brazilian SIM card in Brazil like Mexico, does google fi give you a new number with data and Wi-Fi. You would be using data in Brazil with google fi. Is that correct.You can get a brand new number if you want. That's what I did. I leave my regular phone in the room and use an inexpensive phone I got on Amazon. Or you can port an existing number if you want. There's a few different plans and you have the option to shut off data or the whole plan. It does reactivate after 3 months of inactivity automatically. They send you an email notification and you can easily shut it back off. Google fi runs on whatever network is available, so yes it is running on a Brazilian mobile network. It also automatically switches to wifi to save you data and minutes if you have a wifi connection.


Read the fine print! Google fi only works for 3 months internationally. Worked great for 3 months and they cut off my data stating a clause that said Fi should but used in the United States. Left me high and dry. Had to get a Claro sim card. Email from Fi stated if I return to US then would reinstate data. I didn't even use a lot of data. About 4 gb a month. Never again!This I was unaware of. Thanks for sharing it. I wonder if you ran vpn for a couple days if that would work. Maybe put it in airplane mode before you go to bed. Then in the morning turn on the vpn and run it for a day or two then do the reverse. I know that's a pain the ass but it could be a possible work around for someone long term out of country.

I usually only do a week or 2 max trip so google fi is perfect for me. When I retire I may have to look for a better option.

WyattEarp
02-27-23, 16:12
I'the never heard of this specific spot, but your question titillated me so I took a visit yesterday. Whilst I can't speak for what it used to be like, I can confirm that three young and pretty WGs (all solid 7's+) did indeed come and position themselves right in front of me on the beach yesterday afternoon, and brazenly proceeded to work on the suntan between their upper thighs! I'm currently working on one of them through WhatsApp, but her expectations are currently rather high for me!How much is she asking? I'm curious is she a 7 or 8 or more.

When Hooker Beach was rocking years ago, you could squeeze in an afternoon session for a good price. The girl would disappear with you for awhile presuming you stayed near the beach. That might not be true anymore. Back then, hot girls could always find a score at night. An afternoon session at the beach was a bonus for them.

Explorer69
02-27-23, 16:34
I love Rio, I love Brasilenas! I do not report much anymore here, used to report a lot from Kyiv / Odessa maybe 15 years ago. However, I still lurking on the site. Today I became nostalgic because I realized that in 2023 it is 40 years since I first time was in Rio. I have tried most things around Ipanema Copacabana. Almost all trips has been for business. Now I am in my 70 ies (Brazilians think I am in my 50 ies), but I still travel to Rio for work about every 3rd month and stay there 10-14 days.

The first time I was in Rio, I met a serious, non-working student girl and we were lovers for almost a year. She had to be home at her parent's house every day at 10 pm. After 10 pm, I was on my own! To be a young man, blue-eyed and blond in Rio was a hit!

I have had many long-lasting relationships with very proper, non-working girls. Also sugar babies and of course: garotas de programa. Now it is mostly the latter! I usually start the evening having a drink at Mabs usually I am alone. Often a terrible place and little / nothing of interest. However, if you stay an hour, a few times it is possible to find a diamond a young, unspoilt girl who drops by because she needs some money for her studies or maybe for a new pair of jeans. If I find such a girl, I often have her back evening after evening. When I am fed up at Mabs, I continue to Casablanca. Many hard boilt garotas with considerable mileage, but also here there are exceptions. I can also go home alone if I don't find the right one. Last year I took the stripper (originally from Salvador de Bahia) with me home great experience mucho sexo a couple of hours like passionate lovers! I like the club atmosphere, try to find some chemistry. I am not into 30 minutes sessions any longer. Termas was for my young days. Of course, I am not limited to Mabs and Casablance, just examples.

Brazilian women are usually badly treated by their boyfriends lovers husbands. If you behave like a gentleman and treat them tenderly and with respect your reward is without any borders. This includes garotas de programas they will in most cases pay you handsomely back! But most of all it is in the soul of Brazilian women!

I have almost completely kept my activities around Copacabana for convenience because I have limited time due to lots of work. However, after Eastern I am back for only beach and women to celebrate my 40th anniversary as a Rio vet. Then I will visit Villa Mimosa, Mosaico, Barra, and Centro. Never too late for new experiences!

Just some nostalgic thoughts from an old fart. Praised be the Brasilenas! They are the most wild, tender, sexy, passionate, uninhibited, addictive creatures on earth!! Made for love and to be loved and praised!

Xpartan
02-27-23, 20:55
I love Rio, I love Brasilenas!


Just some nostalgic thoughts from an old fart. Praised be the Brasilenas! They are the most wild, tender, sexy, passionate, uninhibited, addictive creatures on earth!! Made for love and to be loved and praised!My thoughts exactly. Brazil is the best place on Earth for a guy, all things considered.

Enjoyed your tribute!

SilverFoz
02-28-23, 00:28
How much is she asking? I'm curious is she a 7 or 8 or more.

When Hooker Beach was rocking years ago, you could squeeze in an afternoon session for a good price. The girl would disappear with you for awhile presuming you stayed near the beach. That might not be true anymore. Back then, hot girls could always find a score at night. An afternoon session at the beach was a bonus for them.Her throwaway first ask was are $1,000! When I told her I wouldn't dream of paying half of that she asked what I was prepared to offer! However, whilst this was all going on through Zap I happened to have a mind blowing sexual experience elsewhere at a cost closer to are $200, so I've currently put the beach discussion on hold.

More details will follow here on the intervening event. Once I get bored. In the meantime I'm planning to make hay (it'll take me about a week to tire based on previous experience!

Junior11
02-28-23, 00:45
They are both close to favelas. Online dating is more dangerous in Medellin.Thanks, makes sense. Judging from the information posted on the sites of US embassies in Colombia and Brazil, Colombia is significantly more dangerous.

I think if I read the info about Colombia before making my first trip there, I would never make a trip there:

Junior11
02-28-23, 01:00
It is unfortunate. It'd be a great resource. I will contribute when I have some datapoints.


Yours is the first.

Steve 9696
02-28-23, 04:07
I love Rio, I love Brasilenas! I do not report much anymore here, used to report a lot from Kyiv / Odessa maybe 15 years ago. However, I still lurking on the site. Today I became nostalgic because I realized that in 2023 it is 40 years since I first time was in Rio. I have tried most things around Ipanema Copacabana. Almost all trips has been for business. Now I am in my 70 ies (Brazilians think I am in my 50 ies), but I still travel to Rio for work about every 3rd month and stay there 10-14 days.

The first time I was in Rio, I met a serious, non-working student girl and we were lovers for almost a year. She had to be home at her parent's house every day at 10 pm. After 10 pm, I was on my own! To be a young man, blue-eyed and blond in Rio was a hit!

I have had many long-lasting relationships with very proper, non-working girls. Also sugar babies and of course: garotas de programa. Now it is mostly the latter! I usually start the evening having a drink at Mabs usually I am alone. Often a terrible place and little / nothing of interest. However, if you stay an hour, a few times it is possible to find a diamond a young, unspoilt girl who drops by because she needs some money for her studies or maybe for a new pair of jeans. If I find such a girl, I often have her back evening after evening. When I am fed up at Mabs, I continue to Casablanca. Many hard boilt garotas with considerable mileage, but also here there are exceptions. I can also go home alone if I don't find the right one. Last year I took the stripper (originally from Salvador de Bahia) with me home great experience mucho sexo a couple of hours like passionate lovers! I like the club atmosphere, try to find some chemistry. I am not into 30 minutes sessions any longer. Termas was for my young days. Of course, I am not limited to Mabs and Casablance, just examples.

Brazilian women are usually badly treated by their boyfriends lovers husbands. If you behave like a gentleman and treat them tenderly and with respect your reward is without any borders. This includes garotas de programas they will in most cases pay you handsomely back! But most of all it is in the soul of Brazilian women!

I have almost completely kept my activities around Copacabana for convenience because I have limited time due to lots of work. However, after Eastern I am back for only beach and women to celebrate my 40th anniversary as a Rio vet. Then I will visit Villa Mimosa, Mosaico, Barra, and Centro. Never too late for new experiences!

Just some nostalgic thoughts from an old fart. Praised be the Brasilenas! They are the most wild, tender, sexy, passionate, uninhibited, addictive creatures on earth!! Made for love and to be loved and praised!Great stuff. We all aspire to be fucking st 70+. So congrats on that. What about Kalabria, Dolce Vita and Monte Carlo as compared to Casablanca. Aren't they all more or less nearby each other?

The Critic
02-28-23, 07:04
So is Google FI data or Wi-Fi in Brazil. Since you can't get a Brazilian SIM card in Brazil like Mexico, does google fi give you a new number with data and Wi-Fi. You would be using data in Brazil with google fi. Is that correct.The Google FI Website and YouTube videos can explain it better than me since I'm not a salesman. Hehe (Or contact customer service).

Correct, You will get a phone number and you use service just like any other cell phone plan (depending on plan you select).

You get a data plan (for when you are away from Wifi) and You connect to WiFi on your phone (I. E. Hotel room or any place with WiFi) I don't make or receive phone calls since I only understand English, I primarily use it with WhatsApp (and social media and online services like Uber).

PoonyD describes it best http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2793472&viewfull=1#post2793472

The Critic
02-28-23, 07:35
I love Rio, I love Brasilenas! I do not report much anymore here, used to report a lot from Kyiv / Odessa maybe 15 years ago. However, I still lurking on the site. Today I became nostalgic because I realized that in 2023 it is 40 years since I first time was in Rio. I have tried most things around Ipanema Copacabana. Almost all trips has been for business. Now I am in my 70 ies (Brazilians think I am in my 50 ies), but I still travel to Rio for work about every 3rd month and stay there 10-14 days.Congratulations on your 40th Brazil Anniversary! Long Life, Longevity, and Happiness!!

Vagabundo1
02-28-23, 08:22
gparena.net for Rio, gpguia for all of Brazil.

I have too much data, kkk.


It is unfortunate. It'd be a great resource. I will contribute when I have some datapoints.

Vagabundo1
02-28-23, 09:47
The marxist scum at goog will turn it offf after 3 months.

So a gringo who needs wifi should still go to central and get a local chip for 15 r, which he can recharge at any pharma.


The Google FI Website and YouTube videos can explain it better than me since I'm not a salesman. Hehe (Or contact customer service).

Correct, You will get a phone number and you use service just like any other cell phone plan (depending on plan you select).

You get a data plan (for when you are away from Wifi) and You connect to WiFi on your phone (I. E. Hotel room or any place with WiFi) I don't make or receive phone calls since I only understand English, I primarily use it with WhatsApp (and social media and online services like Uber).

PoonyD describes it best http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2793472&viewfull=1#post2793472

Explorer69
02-28-23, 09:53
Great stuff. We all aspire to be fucking st 70+. So congrats on that. What about Kalabria, Dolce Vita and Monte Carlo as compared to Casablanca. Aren't they all more or less nearby each other?I have tested them all. Kalabria usually gets going at a later time. But it all depends. They are more or less the same. I usually start with Casablanca. Then move on if I don't find what I look for. Yes, they are all close to each other.

Steve 9696
02-28-23, 12:53
The Google FI Website and YouTube videos can explain it better than me since I'm not a salesman. Hehe (Or contact customer service).

Correct, You will get a phone number and you use service just like any other cell phone plan (depending on plan you select).

You get a data plan (for when you are away from Wifi) and You connect to WiFi on your phone (I. E. Hotel room or any place with WiFi) I don't make or receive phone calls since I only understand English, I primarily use it with WhatsApp (and social media and online services like Uber).

PoonyD describes it best http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2192-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=2793472&viewfull=1#post2793472Poony describes it well but technically. The short version is it's exactly like TMobile or Att or whatever. But it works worldwide. I moved my burner service (they call it porting) from TMobile to Google Fi just as if I'm moving to any carrier. And now I have my same number worldwide. I absolutely LOVE it.

Rio Bob
02-28-23, 16:41
Great stuff. We all aspire to be fucking st 70+. So congrats on that. What about Kalabria, Dolce Vita and Monte Carlo as compared to Casablanca. Aren't they all more or less nearby each other?Dolce vita, Kalabria, Casablanca and Mabs are within a few blocks of each other. Monte Carlo is about a 10 minute walk down Copacabana. Yes congratulations to Explorer69 on hitting 40 years, I hit 40 years 3 years ago, I went around Rio and took pics of me at 40 years in same places I was at my first time for a before and after. Rio didn't change much but I sure did LOL.

Vagabundo1
02-28-23, 20:34
Springsteen, Jagger, Eastwood probably can still get all the pussy they want on Rio's beaches too!


Dolce vita, Kalabria, Casablanca and Mabs are within a few blocks of each other. Monte Carlo is about a 10 minute walk down Copacabana. Yes congratulations to Explorer69 on hitting 40 years, I hit 40 years 3 years ago, I went around Rio and took pics of me at 40 years in same places I was at my first time for a before and after. Rio didn't change much but I sure did LOL.

Rahsta
03-01-23, 12:51
I started the day by passing by Stellas Massagem. The legendary Kelly hasn't return and propably won't. She is happily married and drives Uber. Neither will Sol, with the fantastic giant natural tits, return to Stellas. Instead I went to Praa Olavo Bilac 28. There are several prives in that building. Quite annoying to have to cadastrar and have your photo taken to enter that building. I started to check out sala 1417. A neat priv, but with low cabin walls. 120 reais /30 min and 200 reais /60 min. Six girls in the presentation. Some doable but none who called my attention.

I headed up to Dark Room, cobertura 6. It was 10.30 AM so they had just opened. Rebecca called my attention. We headed to a nice cabin with clean sheets. The bathroom is in the hall. The fat receptionista was taking a crap so I had to wait to take my shower (not a pleasant smell). Rebecce is a mulatta 22 years (looks younger), beautiful chocolate skin, very cute, supersweet personality, slim, very fit, small firm tits and a rock-hard round ponyass. She does an absolutely perfect BBBJ and f*cks like a godess with her tight p*ssy. Pounding her in doggystyle made the session finish earlier than planned. A superb session, 100 reais /30 minutes. She wanted to have my whatsapp and meet during carnival, but I declined (carnival is restricted to regular girls). She also seemed very interested in meeting a gringo and travel abroad or at least to Cabo Frio or bezios.

BTW, today was the first day I saw pro's on Othon Palace ho-beach. However only six pro's and nothing special. There are lots of tourist arriving in Rio. The big majority are from Argentina and Chile. There are also some european tourists looking toally lost. The last days a bunch of US tourist turned up, walking around in basket balls t-shirts holding caipirinhas made by the street / beach-sellers (sidenote: Those caiprinhas these guys sells are risky business. Besides being expensive and not tasty they are also a hygienic risk. The sellers have a guy making them in a car, a car which they are taking a shit next to whenever they need to. No washing hands).

Note: Be careful when you take photos. Today an american (with some skin disease) passed by on the beach with a small compact camera and a giant tripod. He stopped shamelessy and took photos of some girls playing on the beach. He got well deservedly slapped in his face so hard that he fell on his ass. Caught that incident on my mobile. .Whats the address to Stellas massages? I know its room 707, but I always get turned around when looking for the building. I will miss Kelly also, she was the best.

Turgid
03-01-23, 14:45
The marxist scum at goog ......This absolutely confuses me. As of March 2023 Google has a market cap of $1. 154 Trillion. This makes Google the world's 4th most valuable company in the world by market cap. What could be more capitalist than that! Perhaps just companies 1, 2 and 3.

Sperto
03-01-23, 19:44
Whats the address to Stellas massages? I know its room 707, but I always get turned around when looking for the building. I will miss Kelly also, she was the best.The address is Rua do Ouvidor 130, but you can also reach it from Rua do Rosário.

Kelly was fantastic. Sometimes I spent a whole day going from privê to privê. Even though I had sessioned at two privées before I went to Stellas, Kelly never had any problem to make my pop another time. Kelly should be in the Hall of Fame. Tall, very fit, really nice ass (silicon tits), always insisting of taking her anal as well and a top notch BBBJCIM (sometimes with swallowing). Stellas used to be great, paying another 10 reais and you got a suruba / threesome.

Bang Koker
03-02-23, 01:04
Hello people,

I'm in Rio for a few days. Can somebody please tell me what's the equivalent of splove.com.br and clubmodel.com.br for Rio? I'm looking for sites with trustworthy listings at a price between 500-1000 brl / HR.

Thanks in advance.

Rahsta
03-02-23, 02:30
The address is Rua do Ouvidor 130, but you can also reach it from Rua do Rosrio.

Kelly was fantastic. Sometimes I spent a whole day going from priv to priv. Even though I had sessioned at two prives before I went to Stellas, Kelly never had any problem to make my pop another time. Kelly should be in the Hall of Fame. Tall, very fit, really nice ass (silicon tits), always insisting of taking her anal as well and a top notch BBBJCIM (sometimes with swallowing). Stellas used to be great, paying another 10 reais and you got a suruba / threesome.Thanks. I'm glad Kelly is doing something else. She was working there for atleast 10 years.

JuliusGeezer
03-02-23, 03:58
Gents, what's the latest anyone has taken Ubers here on a regular basis? I was there last week and getting a bit stressed as it took a long time to connect with an Uber (a few tries and 15 plus minutes, couple of drivers connected and then canceled), this was Friday early morning around 1 am. I know it's not a crazy long wait in the overall scheme of things but would like to hear your experience. Only reason I ask is that is there a reason why Ubers do not want to go here? The streets are very narrow and deserted for sure, last thing you'the want to do is walk around elsewhere and I read previous posts here where there were a few instances of violence for people who were walking around.

I can't remember if they offer taxi service, I'm sure they would if you got the money. I still wouldn't be sure to trust it over Uber. I did ask my Uber driver if there was a reason why cars wouldn't come there, he did say that by foot it was dangerous but he wouldn't see any issues in a car at night time. I would also think that a lot of girls take Ubers, I will perhaps ask them next time I'm there just to hear their experience.

CollegeMan83
03-02-23, 04:55
First trip to Brazil all set for July. Rio for 6 nights and SP for 3. Staying right by Posto 9 at an airbnb. Spent way too long reading this thread, now I just have to put up with the wait!

Evac305
03-02-23, 06:13
Hello people,

I'm in Rio for a few days. Can somebody please tell me what's the equivalent of splove.com.br and clubmodel.com.br for Rio? I'm looking for sites with trustworthy listings at a price between 500-1000 brl / HR.

Thanks in advance.https://www.barravipsrio.com/

Vagabundo1
03-02-23, 07:35
Junior 11 you need to clear your inbox. Tried to send you a PM.

Sperto
03-02-23, 10:20
Thanks. I'm glad Kelly is doing something else. She was working there for atleast 10 years.That's right, propably closer to 15 years. I met Kelly at Stellas when she was an innocent 18 year old newbie. Tall, slim and no academia-legs or silicon tits. Even though I miss her I'm happy for her career change.

BTW, there is a Stellas Hollywood 2 on Rua Santa Luzia 405, sala 429. I havn't been there for a few years. Quite run-down but larger rooms and a shower in the hall. There used to be mostly a bit older women with bellys. However, Stellas used to put her newbies to work there for a few weeks before moving them to Rua Ouvidor. I've found some 18 year old gems there.

Vagabundo1
03-02-23, 12:40
Sounds like it would be great to get her as a Uber driver! Ride and blow job!


That's right, propably closer to 15 years. I met Kelly at Stellas when she was an innocent 18 year old newbie. Tall, slim and no academia-legs or silicon tits. Even though I miss her I'm happy for her career change.

BTW, there is a Stellas Hollywood 2 on Rua Santa Luzia 405, sala 429. I havn't been there for a few years. Quite run-down but larger rooms and a shower in the hall. There used to be mostly a bit older women with bellys. However, Stellas used to put her newbies to work there for a few weeks before moving them to Rua Ouvidor. I've found some 18 year old gems there.

SilverFoz
03-02-23, 14:19
Hello people,

I'm in Rio for a few days. Can somebody please tell me what's the equivalent of splove.com.br and clubmodel.com.br for Rio? I'm looking for sites with trustworthy listings at a price between 500-1000 brl / HR.

Thanks in advance.I agree with the recent recommendation of barravipsrio. Surprisingly, considering the quality on offer, I've found the girls I've met to closely resemble their pictures!

Vagabundo1
03-02-23, 18:48
That's also the answer to this sp v rj debate.

The girls on barravipsrio and riosexsite for escorts, and the prive girls at onix are just as good as any in SP.


I agree with the recent recommendation of barravipsrio. Surprisingly, considering the quality on offer, I've found the girls I've met to closely resemble their pictures!

Sperto
03-02-23, 21:40
I went around Centro checking privées today. I started at TDM33. My intention was to start at 32: nd floor and work my way down using the stairs. None of the four elevators going up to the 32: nd floor was working. I went to the elevators going up to the 21: st floor, one of these 4 elevators was working (working as going up but stopping on every floor). I was hoping to meet Stephany with the small bundinha, in sala 3206, that Senhor Vagabundo recommended. I guessed there would be no girls working on the top floors because of the broken elevators. I just headed up to the 26: th floor and worked my way down. On my privê-list I had about 20 privées in TDM33. Half of these have closed since last year. The privées that were open had fewer girls than normally. I found no gem.

Instead I headed to RB185. Sala 1308 only had 2 girls available. I almost chose the mulata. I changed my mind and went to sala 2104. Only massage, no sex. A shame as the receptionist was hot. I ended up at Belprazer, sala 2114. Lots of girls in the presentation. Today I was looking for big natural tits, there were three candidates. I chose Cindy. Morena, 23 years (looks younger), beautiful face, slim, big heavy natural tits and firm round ponyass. She gave a very good BBBJ and f*cked very good in all positions. It was nice to see her swinging tits in the mirror when taking her doggystyle. Finished with an excellent BBBJCIM. 110 reais /30 minutes (10 reais discount when paying cash). As always Belprazer is very clean and have nice beds, mirrors and a shower cabin in the room.

Bravo
03-03-23, 04:03
Gents, what's the latest anyone has taken Ubers here on a regular basis? I was there last week and getting a bit stressed as it took a long time to connect with an Uber (a few tries and 15 plus minutes, couple of drivers connected and then canceled), this was Friday early morning around 1 am. I know it's not a crazy long wait in the overall scheme of things but would like to hear your experience. Only reason I ask is that is there a reason why Ubers do not want to go here? .I have never been to any place where the uber drivers cancel as much as they do in Rio de Janeiro. Doesn't seem to be any rationale because I have had them cancel morning, noon and night.

Steve 9696
03-03-23, 04:22
I have never been to any place where the uber drivers cancel as much as they do in Rio de Janeiro. Doesn't seem to be any rationale because I have had them cancel morning, noon and night.Have you tried Uber black? In Buenos Aires uber is total shit. I have to use black to get a guy to show up. Maybe Rio has become same.

Evac305
03-03-23, 07:14
Have you tried Uber black? In Buenos Aires uber is total shit. I have to use black to get a guy to show up. Maybe Rio has become same.I know this is the Rio thread but how's mongering in Buenos Aires?

Vagabundo1
03-03-23, 14:30
Indriver or 99.


Have you tried Uber black? In Buenos Aires uber is total shit. I have to use black to get a guy to show up. Maybe Rio has become same.

KPete
03-03-23, 21:06
I will be visiting Rio in a couple of weeks, and I have read posts from the past year to update my info. I am planning to visit Solarium, 4 x 4, and Perola Negra. (And maybe some privees too.).

Here is information I have collected about these places.

Solarium. Entry R120, Girl R490/40 min or R630/60 min.

4 x 4 - Entry 60 (waived if room before 6 pm), Girl R300/30 min or R420/60 min.

Perola Negra. Entry R30, Girl R290/40 min (or R350 with room upgrade).

Does this look like correct current pricing? I have read about super-high takeout fees from 4 x 4, so better to just ask the girl to meet outside. Is it the same at Solarium and Perola Negra?

What are the best times of day to visit these places on weekdays?

CatBert55
03-03-23, 21:53
Have you tried Uber black? In Buenos Aires uber is total shit. I have to use black to get a guy to show up. Maybe Rio has become same.In both Rio and Sao Paulo regular Uber is useless. I always go with Uber Black because otherwise it's an 80% cancellation rate, at least.

TjBrazil
03-03-23, 23:37
I'the never heard of this specific spot, but your question titillated me so I took a visit yesterday. Whilst I can't speak for what it used to be like, I can confirm that three young and pretty WGs (all solid 7's+) did indeed come and position themselves right in front of me on the beach yesterday afternoon, and brazenly proceeded to work on the suntan between their upper thighs! I'm currently working on one of them through WhatsApp, but her expectations are currently rather high for me!Now that I'm in the 50 club, I don't care about Help being open anymore, since I only have at most 2 nuts per day in me. What I would really like to see back is hooker beach in front of Othon Palace. I would love to make this my mongering routine: wake up at 9/10, rent a board and do some amateur surfing which means go straight and fall off for an hour, shower and eat, go to hooker beach at 12 and have plenty of 8's to choose from, finish with a girl, back to shower and eat and off to the termas from 5 to 10 pm at night and back at my hotel by 11 pm. Rinse and repeat.

It's good to hear there is life again at hooker beach. What time do you think it was busiest there. I want to go when it has the most options.

Mr Enternational
03-04-23, 00:24
In both Rio and Sao Paulo regular Uber is useless. I always go with Uber Black because otherwise it's an 80% cancellation rate, at least.Regular Uber always works fine for me if I an not using the cheaper Indriver or 99. No need to pay more.

Steve 9696
03-04-23, 00:54
I know this is the Rio thread but how's mongering in Buenos Aires?The general P6 scene in Buenos Aires sucks. But this makes a good Seeking Arrangements scene. If you can withstand the endless BS and work to find the right girl there are great girls in Baires. I had two great experiences. One a legit 10 on looks (no lie) and interaction (perfect English) but maybe a 6-7 in bed. And one who was a solid 8 with amazing firm Dee cups. And when I got a little floppy she just tossed the condom and put me in bareback. That did the trick! Two great experiences. So recommend if you are willing to put in the work.

Check out the Seeking Arrangments thread or shoot me a Pm if you want tips on landing Seeking girls.

UsaInEurope
03-04-23, 02:20
And I'm a quality contributor with reports and info -- most work most recently done in Tijuana and most Asian threads.

So I'm off for a 6-week So American tour with these dates in Rio. Would love to meet up with people for at least a night or two and see what trouble we can get into.

Not mandatory but I'm also into group / public play so if anybody wants to share 3-4 girls together and get an orgy going.

Probably staying at an airbnb but they're pricey! So might just do a hotel since airbnbs all say no parties / events / etc. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Arena Leme Hotel has a great price ... but a 2-year old report said they're uptight about security. Any info on bringing a girl up at that hotel/hang at pool?

Sperto
03-04-23, 04:30
It's good to hear there is life again at hooker beach. What time do you think it was busiest there. I want to go when it has the most options.Don't get any false hopes. During the carnival there showed up a maximum of 5-8 pro's during a short period of 10 days. Now the hooker beach is dead again.

Nounce
03-04-23, 14:40
... Are there any night clubs similar to (LDV or Space in Cartagena) where you can drink, hang out, but all the girls there are working girls, therefore, your work is cut out for you. And my second question is strip clubs- if I'm interested in taking back to my abnb, is strip clubs a good choice? Are there high take out fees? And what is the best option for someone looking for take out?....The places that are most similar to those are Dolce Vita/DV and Mabs. They are next to each other. It has been mentioned often. You should find a lot of info now you know what to look for. In Rio, you can also go to termas to find girls. 4 x4 is a terma but it has a strip club atmosphere. You will find several like that in Centro. Solariun is also a terma but it has a complete different feel.

SilverFoz
03-04-23, 14:45
That's also the answer to this sp v rj debate.

The girls on barravipsrio and riosexsite for escorts, and the prive girls at onix are just as good as any in SP.Is that the Onix on Rio Branco, Vagabundo? If not, could you give me a steer please.

SilverFoz
03-04-23, 14:50
Solarium. Entry R120, Girl R490/40 min or R630/60 min.

4 x 4 - Entry 60 (waived if room before 6 pm), Girl R300/30 min or R420/60 min.

Perola Negra. Entry R30, Girl R290/40 min (or R350 with room upgrade).

Does this look like correct current pricing? I have read about super-high takeout fees from 4 x 4, so better to just ask the girl to meet outside. Is it the same at Solarium and Perola Negra?

What are the best times of day to visit these places on weekdays?Those prices look about right; certainly the relative cost between the three.

I can only really speak for 4 x4 from regular experience but it picks up towards 5 pm most days. Best in mind though that Tuesdays get manic for some reason so if you turned up at 5 pm on a Tuesday you might find lots of competition for your favourite sweetheart!

Vagabundo1
03-04-23, 15:31
The Weeks in Baseball.

First off, yes, as Senor Sperto said, one should go check stephany's ass at 3206 in TDM33.

https://www.rioencontro.com.br/sexyhot-massagem/

Other girls in that casa / clinica are hot too. Nice view up Steph's bundinha, and the view from 32nd floor of the harbor is nice.

You can go and blow a load up Steph's hot box for like 50 r for 15 minutes. So, then having shot a wad, you can go over to 4 x4 without 3 years of jizz from covid lock downs making you into a customer from hell in 4 x4.

Vagabundo has been getting some regulars, like Nina Deponca, over for 2 hour blow jobs, and then a few hours of deep tissue massage and foot massage. She is a former JuPanteras girl who is a good provider and kinky player. I normally do about 4 prive girls a week, and there is a regular who comes by too.

I like this time of year -- not too hot, not too cold, lots of people at the pool, including the barravips girls, lots of talent at the beach.

I went to xpartan to posto 2 barrra / classico beach club the other day, and it was good. After the beach, I went to olegario, where a old fave, surfgirl was strolling along.

I am looking forward to seeing new wingmen, so send me a PM.

WyattEarp
03-04-23, 16:07
Now that I'm in the 50 club, I don't care about Help being open anymore, since I only have at most 2 nuts per day in me.Some of us in this club would profusely disagree with you. Your statement on this thread is like going to Mecca and saying you don't care about Muhammad.

Perhaps, I would no longer be there late in the night. Perhaps, I wouldn't bother to go inside. Many times, I found a lovely girl in the cafe outside and took her home. Two pops? Many times, I popped, rolled over, fell asleep and woke up for another pop. Just as importantly, there was the joy of taking friends there for the first time to see their faces when they walked into the disco.

Tijuana, don't take my post too seriously.

Wyatt Earp, Help Disco Aficionado.

WyattEarp
03-04-23, 17:49
Some of us in this club would profusely disagree with you. Your statement on this thread is like going to Mecca and saying you don't care about Muhammad.

Perhaps, I would no longer be there late in the night. Perhaps, I wouldn't bother to go inside. Many times, I found a lovely girl in the cafe outside and took her home. Two pops? Many times, I popped, rolled over, fell asleep and woke up for another pop. Just as importantly, there was the joy of taking friends there for the first time to see their faces when they walked into the disco.

Tijuana, don't take my post too seriously.

Wyatt Earp, Help Disco Aficionado.Sorry, the ISG editor turned your name into Tijuana.

TjBrazil
03-04-23, 18:38
The Weeks in Baseball.

First off, yes, as Senor Sperto said, one should go check stephany's ass at 3206 in TDM33.

https://www.rioencontro.com.br/sexyhot-massagem/

Other girls in that casa / clinica are hot too. Nice view up Steph's bundinha, and the view from 32nd floor of the harbor is nice.

You can go and blow a load up Steph's hot box for like 50 r for 15 minutes. So, then having shot a wad, you can go over to 4 x4 without 3 years of jizz from covid lock downs making you into a customer from hell in 4 x4.

Vagabundo has been getting some regulars, like Nina Deponca, over for 2 hour blow jobs, and then a few hours of deep tissue massage and foot massage. She is a former JuPanteras girl who is a good provider and kinky player. I normally do about 4 prive girls a week, and there is a regular who comes by too.

I like this time of year -- not too hot, not too cold, lots of people at the pool, including the barravips girls, lots of talent at the beach.Is that Nina deponca the pornstar. She is in her 50's. Where did you meet her.

TjBrazil
03-04-23, 20:45
I thought I would post a YT video of a real 10. Hands down the sexiest girl I have ever seen. It starts at around 2:30. If she was a hooker she could name her price with me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7d4oK6Ia30&t=177s

Vagabundo1
03-05-23, 12:23
Nina Deponca is my code name for a local Rio hoar, one of many in my harem.


Is that Nina deponca the pornstar. She is in her 50's. Where did you meet her.

Vagabundo1
03-05-23, 12:24
Yes. Affirmative.


Is that the Onix on Rio Branco, Vagabundo? If not, could you give me a steer please.

Rio Bob
03-05-23, 12:51
Now that the pandemic is over, is hooker beach in front of othon palace picking up or is it still dead. Can someone on the ground report.Yesterday I walked around hooker beach looking for a buddy of mine, the same touts from 25 years ago are still there and still remember my name, they all looked the same maybe a little gray hair. I saw maybe 3 working girls that were doable but there is better in town to be had and I was in the mood for one.

I went back to my place and called one up from barra vip, when she arrived early she looked better than her pictures, very sweet, young, I made her a drink and she came up to me and gave me a DFK. She wanted to go see the view and in broad daylight gave me a BBBJ in the middle of the day outside and then hiked up her dress took her panties off and we started to doggie. I moved into the bedroom with her and had a nice finish. She wasn't in a hurry to leave yet her phone rang a few times, she must be very popular.

The other night I arrived dolce vita at 2 am, the place was buzzing, I spoke to a few girls and ended up with a 20 year old she was born in 2003 LOL. There were definitely a few good pickings there, was going to go again last night Saturday night, I woke up at 2 am gave it some thought but since I had the girl from barra vip I passed and went back to sleep.

SoberHans69
03-05-23, 13:09
Yesterday I walked around hooker beach looking for a buddy of mine, the same touts from 25 years ago are still there and still remember my name, they all looked the same maybe a little gray hair. I saw maybe 3 working girls that were doable but there is better in town to be had and I was in the mood for one.

I went back to my place and called one up from barra vip, when she arrived early she looked better than her pictures, very sweet, young, I made her a drink and she came up to me and gave me a DFK. She wanted to go see the view and in broad daylight gave me a BBBJ in the middle of the day outside and then hiked up her dress took her panties off and we started to doggie. I moved into the bedroom with her and had a nice finish. She wasn't in a hurry to leave yet her phone rang a few times, she must be very popular.

The other night I arrived dolce vita at 2 am, the place was buzzing, I spoke to a few girls and ended up with a 20 year old she was born in 2003 LOL. There were definitely a few good pickings there, was going to go again last night Saturday night, I woke up at 2 am gave it some thought but since I had the girl from barra vip I passed and went back to sleep.How much was the DV girl if you don't mind me asking? Thanks.

Axel Heyst
03-05-23, 18:13
I thought I would post a YT video of a real 10. Hands down the sexiest girl I have ever seen. It starts at around 2:30. If she was a hooker she could name her price with me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7d4oK6Ia30&t=177sIf you think Girl #2:30 is a 10, then you are in luck. There must be 1000's of girls like her floating around RJ. Don't get me wrong. I think she is cute & kind of sexy and I like her amateur status, but other than that she is no big deal. Just a nice looking girl on a train in Brazil. I rate her around a 6 more or less. But thanks for posting. A picture is worth more than a thousand words.

Rio Bob
03-05-23, 20:56
How much was the DV girl if you don't mind me asking? Thanks.She was asking 500 I gave her 400.

WyattEarp
03-05-23, 21:56
I went back to my place and called one up from barra vip, when she arrived early she looked better than her pictures, very sweet, young, I made her a drink and she came up to me and gave me a DFK. She wanted to go see the view and in broad daylight gave me a BBBJ in the middle of the day outside and then hiked up her dress took her panties off and we started to doggie. I moved into the bedroom with her and had a nice finish. She wasn't in a hurry to leave yet her phone rang a few times, she must be very popular.What was the name of the Barravips girl?

Gropai
03-06-23, 00:57
If you think Girl #2:30 is a 10, then you are in luck. There must be 1000's of girls like her floating around RJ. Don't get me wrong. I think she is cute & kind of sexy and I like her amateur status, but other than that she is no big deal. Just a nice looking girl on a train in Brazil. I rate her around a 6 more or less. But thanks for posting. A picture is worth more than a thousand words.No need to be hard on TjBrazil. One man's 10 may be another's 6. For me that's a solid 8, and if she has a bigger bubble butt, easily a 9.

Sperto
03-06-23, 01:39
I like to pass by Pestana Rio Atlantico. The view at the cobertura bar is breathtaking, no entrance fee, the service is good and the prices are OK. The last weeks I've noticed some pro's hanging out. Last night there were three pro's (Two blond and a morena, milfs. They seemed very desperate for attention until they saw I had a GF. It's definitely a good spot to bring your date.

Mr Enternational
03-06-23, 02:58
If you think Girl #2:30 is a 10, then you are in luck. There must be 1000's of girls like her floating around RJ.He would be in hog heaven if he goes up into one of those hoods. Just looks like the average chick working in a store somewhere to me too. Not saying she is not cute. What I like about Brazil is there are cute chicks like that everywhere.

WyattEarp
03-06-23, 16:27
If you think Girl #2:30 is a 10, then you are in luck. There must be 1000's of girls like her floating around RJ. Don't get me wrong. I think she is cute & kind of sexy and I like her amateur status, but other than that she is no big deal. Just a nice looking girl on a train in Brazil. I rate her around a 6 more or less. But thanks for posting. A picture is worth more than a thousand words.Yes, there's 1000's of girls like her floating around Rio, but I think a 6 is harsh. I'd say she is an 8. 7. 5 minimum. Beautiful smile, cute, nice body. I was thinking if she worked in 4 x 4 she would be one of the top 5 (certainly top 10) girls on a given night.

Everyone has a different aesthetic when it comes to women. I was conversing with a guy on the Montreal thread recently. He said he was attracted to a well-known, on-line escort with a "bimbo look". She had all the exaggerated enhancements you could imagine. Some of us like a more sweet, cute and natural look. One thing is for sure. The girl in the video is young.

Vagabundo1
03-06-23, 16:37
Giant natural rack, check.

Carioca, check.

Put her in a Vasco the gama original shirt with a strap on and the other girls in flamego shirts and flamego dog collars and leashes with jewelled butt plugs up their asses and a gallon of baby oil on them in Motel VIPS.

11.

11's all fucking day in any rich world pussy prison.


No need to be hard on TjBrazil. One man's 10 may be another's 6. For me that's a solid 8, and if she has a bigger bubble butt, easily a 9.

The Cane
03-06-23, 17:56
If you think Girl #2:30 is a 10, then you are in luck. There must be 1000's of girls like her floating around RJ. Don't get me wrong. I think she is cute & kind of sexy and I like her amateur status, but other than that she is no big deal. Just a nice looking girl on a train in Brazil. I rate her around a 6 more or less. But thanks for posting. A picture is worth more than a thousand words.Yeah, she's in the 6+ to 7 max range for me. Plenty of those walking around. That's why it always helps when you can see who somebody is rating as a 10 (or whatever). Always proves just how widely divergent opinions can be. She is cute though! I'd fuck her in the absence of anybody hotter around LOL!

Sperto
03-06-23, 20:51
I went around to a bunch of privées in Copacabana. I ended up att Massagem 583, Av NS Copacabana 583, sala 302. Quite a big privê, very clean and large nice rooms, but with bathroom in the hall. The presentation was good, but unfortunately several girls had silicon tits. I chose Laviana. Morena escura, 23 years, cute face, nice hair, small nice pierced tits (no kids) and a mediumsized ponyass. She's a sweet girl and very GFE. She has been away for one month and returned today. She gave one of the best BJ I had on this trip, just amazing. She f*cks very good. Her pussy was surprisingly tight, she said it was because she didn't have sex for one month. 170 reais /30 min. Overpriced, probably one of the most expensive privées in Copacabana. However I left happy and satisfied.

Rio Bob
03-06-23, 21:20
He would be in hog heaven if he goes up into one of those hoods. Just looks like the average chick working in a store somewhere to me too. Not saying she is not cute. What I like about Brazil is there are cute chicks like that everywhere.Everybody has different tastes in women, I've had friends who were on top of their game and I wouldn't fuck the women they choose at all and they probably wouldn't fuck what I like, that's just the way it is.

TjBrazil
03-06-23, 22:53
You guys are blind or gay if you think that girl on the subway is a 6. Who are you guys fucking if she is a 6. There are not 1000's of girls that look like that in Rio. I've been 10 times at least, and do not see girls like that everywhere. She is all natural which I love. I hate fake tits and assess.

I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit. Let it marinate in my thought processes. Eventually cooler head's would prevail and I would have to decline. LOL.

Sperto
03-07-23, 11:03
I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit.That's a bit weird.

Explorer69
03-07-23, 13:28
You guys are blind or gay if you think that girl on the subway is a 6. Who are you guys fucking if she is a 6. There are not 1000's of girls that look like that in Rio. I've been 10 times at least, and do not see girls like that everywhere. She is all natural which I love. I hate fake tits and assess.

I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit. Let it marinate in my thought processes. Eventually cooler head's would prevail and I would have to decline. LOL.I agree with the previous critics: she is a 6-7. Normal girl, sweet next. Door. Nothing special. But no need to discuss this, we all have different tastes.

Vagabundo1
03-07-23, 14:19
Just remember the contributor who rated her a 6 hasn't been to Rio in 1000+ days. Jealousy!

Vagabundo would so fuck her tits, like after he fucked her teen pussy bare, and made her suck his dick for an hour, and then taken a bottle of baby oil and fucked her tits again, just to take pictures.


You guys are blind or gay if you think that girl on the subway is a 6. Who are you guys fucking if she is a 6. There are not 1000's of girls that look like that in Rio. I've been 10 times at least, and do not see girls like that everywhere. She is all natural which I love. I hate fake tits and assess.

I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit. Let it marinate in my thought processes. Eventually cooler head's would prevail and I would have to decline. LOL.

Turgid
03-07-23, 15:01
You guys are blind or gay if you think that girl on the subway is a 6. Who are you guys fucking if she is a 6. There are not 1000's of girls that look like that in Rio. I've been 10 times at least, and do not see girls like that everywhere. She is all natural which I love. I hate fake tits and assess.

I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit. Let it marinate in my thought processes. Eventually cooler head's would prevail and I would have to decline. LOL.Why the debate? She's not a hooker.

Balboa
03-07-23, 17:43
I agree with the previous critics: she is a 6-7. Normal girl, sweet next. Door. Nothing special. But no need to discuss this, we all have different tastes.She's very cute! She's a 10 if you're into sweet and cute like that that.

She could be my 10 for a few hours for sure!

I appreciate TJ B at least posting the link to her video.

Any guy who posts a pic of a girl and proclaims her a 10, or any rating for that matter, will be negated and debated, LOL.

There's obviously a wide preference in women.

Anyone who's gone out with other guys looking at and / or choosing girls knows that's true.

The Cane
03-07-23, 18:37
I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit.Nothing to be jealous about there! And nothing to think about. If that was the requirement, then I most assuredly would never go to Brazil ever again. Ewww, ewwww, eewwww!

MiamiBoy1
03-07-23, 19:24
I thought I would post a YT video of a real 10. Hands down the sexiest girl I have ever seen. It starts at around 2:30. If she was a hooker she could name her price with me.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h7d4oK6Ia30&t=177sSolid 7-7. 5.

Definitely above average looking.

Meets my minimum standards LOL. But she is not a real 10.

Junior11
03-07-23, 19:44
The Secretariat of Public Security of So Paulo (SSP) told BBC News Brasil that "more than 90% of the kidnappings registered in So Paulo are made from relationships formed from false profiles created in applications such as Tinder. https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/brasil-63733202.Well, the government always likes to put the blame on something or someone except themselves. I wonder what is the number of good hookups happen through Tinder vs the number of kidnappings.

Junior11
03-07-23, 19:47
And while we are on the subject, what is the community's take on online "dating" in Rio for someone who stays there for a while?

Is it a major waste of time?

Alternatively, what is the best platform, FB, Tinder, Insta?

Junior11
03-07-23, 23:15
Yeah, her tits are big, though rather soft. You can tell it from the video. Still, she is hot! Very few thin girls have big, natural, and firm tits (sadly haha). So, I'd definitely like to play with her titties LOL. And fuck them just for fun or pics as Vagabundo said earlier.


You guys are blind or gay if you think that girl on the subway is a 6. Who are you guys fucking if she is a 6. There are not 1000's of girls that look like that in Rio. I've been 10 times at least, and do not see girls like that everywhere. She is all natural which I love. I hate fake tits and assess.

I'm in such love with her, that if she said I could sleep with her if I made out with vagabundo and Sperto at the same time, I might have to think about it for a bit. Let it marinate in my thought processes. Eventually cooler head's would prevail and I would have to decline. LOL.

Jake993
03-07-23, 23:17
After a 14 year hiatus, I finally got back to Rio. My previous Termas experience was limited to 4 x4, L'huomo and Solarium. But it was just too convenient not to check out, so I made my first visit to Monte Carlo.

After reading the reports, my expectations were low considering it was a Monday night. I arrived at about 7:00 PM and there were already about 6 girls there so that was a pleasant surprise. All shapes were represented but there was a nice slim 24-year-old named Bernadette that I quickly asked to sit down and chat. After about 20 minutes of chit chat, we migrated upstairs. I selected one of the larger deluxe cabines for a full hour since my stay in Rio is short and business meetings have left me with not very much free time. The cabine was nice and roomy with its own private toilet and shower. OK, a bit extravagant but WTF.

Bernadette had a nice body. At first glance, I thought her tits were fake but after a thorough inspection, I concluded that they were real. Her booty was spectacular. Not huge but perfectly shaped and firm enough to bounce quarters off of. Pussy was nice and tidy. Good performer. Enthusiastic BBBJ and quite comfortable in all positions. Nice bit of GFE so all in all I would rate her an a "repeat". The only negative I can mention is that she specified in no uncertain terms that she does not do anal. I tried testing her resolve by making light probes in the neighborhood while in doggy, but she reached between her legs and gave my balls a gentle twist reminding me of her policy. Can't blame a guy for trying!

Because the cabine had its own shower we cleaned up in the room and then went back down to the boite together. The place was now nicely packed. I sat down and offered Bernadette a juice and counted 13 girls and about 8 guys including Bernadette and myself. Mix of locals and a few foreigners. Good vibe.

One of the girls who arrived after Bernadette and I went off to the cabine, was a tall Loira named Mary. Nice looking and friendly with Bernadette. Work pals I assumed because be was encouraging me to give her a try. What a mistake. Whiney with lots of rules and mechanical as hell. Wanted me to cover up for BJ to which I strenuously objected. For Mary I took a regular cabine for 40 minutes which kicked off the whining. "Why only 40 minutes"? Then it was one thing after another. "That's too hard. Not so fast. Don't put your fingers there. You face is too close to mine (in missionary)". I flipped her over and pounded her in doggy which she seemed to enjoy but by then it was ruined for me. I just wanted to get back to the boite. Never again. The funny part is that I never would have chosen her on my own. Anyhow. Lesson learned.

By then it was well past 10:00 PM so I got changed, paid (by credit card) and wandered back towards MABS which was just starting to heat up. Lots of girls sitting in groups checking out the "fresh meat" as they were arriving. There was actually some pretty nice talent there, but I was definitely "too pooped to pop" and did not even entertain the idea of an overnight guest. I ended the evening with a late-night snack at Cervantes around the corner. Nice to be back in Rio.

Bravo
03-08-23, 00:50
One of the girls who arrived after Bernadette and I went off to the cabine, was a tall Loira named Mary. Nice looking and friendly with Bernadette. Work pals I assumed because be was encouraging me to give her a try. What a mistake. Whiney with lots of rules and mechanical as hell. Wanted me to cover up for BJ to which I strenuously objected. For Mary I took a regular cabine for 40 minutes which kicked off the whining. "Why only 40 minutes"? Then it was one thing after another. "That's too hard. Not so fast. Don't put your fingers there. You face is too close to mine (in missionary)". I flipped her over and pounded her in doggy which she seemed to enjoy but by then it was ruined for me. I just wanted to get back to the boite. Never again. The funny part is that I never would have chosen her on my own. Anyhow. Lesson learned.
.When she demanded you put the rubber on for the BJ, you should have gotten up and canceled the programma. You could have told the manager that you changed your mind because she had too many rules and the told him that you would choose another girl. Two things would have happened. 1) You wouldn't have wasted your money 2) All the girls would have heard what happened and they would know better then to try and play games with you because you would go to the manager.

UniversalX
03-08-23, 03:15
Solid 7-7. 5.

Definitely above average looking.

Meets my minimum standards LOL. But she is not a real 10.Absolutely!

HKS11
03-08-23, 12:43
I am looking for recommendations on where to stay in Ipanema or Copacabana. Is Pestana still girl visiting friendly? Any recommendations for hotels or private rentals? I have contacts for renting apartments but everything I have is 5 years old. I am wondering if anyone has any up to date info or recommended contacts for places to stay with trustworthy people. I do have the option of staying in a friend's apartment but I want to have a place I can invite and take chicks back to bang in privacy without any potential issues.

Jake993
03-08-23, 14:07
When she demanded you put the rubber on for the BJ, you should have gotten up and canceled the programma. You could have told the manager that you changed your mind because she had too many rules and the told him that you would choose another girl. Two things would have happened. 1) You wouldn't have wasted your money 2) All the girls would have heard what happened and they would know better then to try and play games with you because you would go to the manager.Yeah, you are right. But in all fairness, I should reiterate that aside from "whiny girl", the experience at MC was great. Bernie was great. Would definitely go back. Great location and good facilities.

Vagabundo1
03-08-23, 22:13
That girl's big tits reminds me of a prive girl out in Tijuca, at Tigressa Massagem, up above the auto mechanic place, who Sperto recommended, and we all fucked in 2013, me in duplas.

Big morena tits, always a winner when you can find them.


Just remember the contributor who rated her a 6 hasn't been to Rio in 1000+ days. Jealousy!

Vagabundo would so fuck her tits, like after he fucked her teen pussy bare, and made her suck his dick for an hour, and then taken a bottle of baby oil and fucked her tits again, just to take pictures.

Junior11
03-08-23, 23:53
What are they called in Portuguese?

What are they on average?

Are they about the same anytime of the day and any day of the week?

TjBrazil
03-09-23, 04:52
She's very cute! She's a 10 if you're into sweet and cute like that that.

She could be my 10 for a few hours for sure!

I appreciate TJ B at least posting the link to her video.

Any guy who posts a pic of a girl and proclaims her a 10, or any rating for that matter, will be negated and debated, LOL.
There's obviously a wide preference in women.

Anyone who's gone out with other guys looking at and / or choosing girls knows that's true.Also, when I rate a girl, I'm not comparing her to a photoshopped playboy picture or Cosmopolitan photo. I rate off real walking around girls. Thin girl with big naturals and a outgoing friendly personality. Smiled a lot and not a hardened hooker. You guys are busting my balls, which is fine, but I'm standing by my 10.

AcesOnTheRiver
03-09-23, 04:54
The places that are most similar to those are Dolce Vita/DV and Mabs. They are next to each other. It has been mentioned often. You should find a lot of info now you know what to look for. In Rio, you can also go to termas to find girls. 4 x4 is a terma but it has a strip club atmosphere. You will find several like that in Centro. Solariun is also a terma but it has a complete different feel.Thank bud, I truly appreciate it!! Will report back prices and my newb experiences first week April if anyone is interested.

Nounce
03-09-23, 14:54
What are they called in Portuguese?...You can just use the word entrada.

RioHeart
03-09-23, 16:02
Fucking hell.

Just saw this on the wire.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-resume-visa-requirements-us-japan-australia-canada-sources-2023-03-08/

Junior11
03-09-23, 18:22
Obrigado senhor.


You can just use the word entrada.

BeenBob
03-09-23, 20:18
Fucking hell.

Just saw this on the wire.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-resume-visa-requirements-us-japan-australia-canada-sources-2023-03-08/My consulate said it is set to take place after August.

Vagabundo1
03-09-23, 20:19
Is it Lula?


Fucking hell.

Just saw this on the wire.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-resume-visa-requirements-us-japan-australia-canada-sources-2023-03-08/

MiamiBoy1
03-09-23, 20:56
Also, when I rate a girl, I'm not comparing her to a photoshopped playboy picture or Cosmopolitan photo. I rate off real walking around girls. Thin girl with big naturals and a outgoing friendly personality. Smiled a lot and not a hardened hooker. You guys are busting my balls, which is fine, but I'm standing by my 10.Hey,

Nobody is trashing your girl. I think most of us agreed that she is cute and above average looking, solid 7+. If you decide to use 1-10 scale or ask other posters to rate your girl, you should understand the scale better. A true 10 is a unicorn, you probably will never see a 10 in the subway. Victoria Secret's model type, zero flaws, would make everyone turn their heads. When you see a true 10 in public, you can't believe your fucking eyes because you have never seen a girl like that before.

Xpartan
03-09-23, 22:39
Fucking hell.

Just saw this on the wire.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-resume-visa-requirements-us-japan-australia-canada-sources-2023-03-08/And yet, they've apparently decided not to pick a fight with Mexico that introduced a (very convoluted) visa obtaining process for Brazilians last August. Now wait for Argentina to "monkey do" the same thing. Maybe if Iguazu is on your bucket list, go sooner rather than later.

Xpartan
03-09-23, 23:11
This is going to be brief. Came to Rio for 2 weeks of fun and debauchery, but had to rush back home due to a family emergency.

Anyway, here goes.

1. Hotels: Hyatt in Barra and Hilton in Leme. Both are GF, but Hilton has a long registration form. Hyatt is more relaxed, but guests are not allowed in common areas.

Hyatt is in the middle of nowhere even for Barra, but it's a beautiful beachfront resort with nice, extensive pools and laidback feel. You won't find that feel in Copa, so 3 days at Hyatt might be a good place to decompress.

Get an ocean- or lagoon-front room at Hyatt if you can swing it.

At Hilton all rooms are ocean-view, even though they show their age a little.

2. Money: got a withdrawal with a Schwab card at a Bradesco ATM in Barra Shopping at the 5. 17 and no commissions (which would be covered by Schwab anyway). Merits of Schwab debit card have been covered here on more than one occasion, but it's worth reminding, I guess.

3. SIM card: You can buy it and have it set up at the market in Centro as been reported here. You can also buy it at Lojas Americanas and set it up on the phone. However, if you're based far from Centro or your Portuguese is a little rusty, TIM store is the place to go. I stayed 10 minutes away from Barra Shopping, so it was a no brainer. You buy the card first then set it up at the store. Unlike my previous trips, this time around it was painless.

4. If you need a separate Zap account with a local number, open up WA for business (HT: Vagabundo).

5. Took a ride to the Classico beach bar with Vagabundo. Nice spot.

6. Girls: I started by hooking up with a girl from my last trip, but wasn't especially happy, so never repeated. Aside from her, I only had 2 encounters with new girls.

6 A. Perola Negra Came over after midnight on Wednesday, lots of girls, but it was a sausage feast. Most girls were hanging out with Brazilian dudes who never took anyone for a programma far as I could see. I walk around the room a couple of times, not drawing any enthusiasm from nicer-looking girls, then grabbed a beer and landed on the couch at the entrance. Then a cute slim 7 positioned herself in front of me with a wide smile. What are you going to do for me, I asked. I don't do anal, she goes right off the bat. How about CIM? Oh, you safado, she goes. Is that a yes? Yes. I was sold.

In the room, she's sweet and giggly, very compliant with my wishes, but not big on independent thinking. Still, I would repeat because I'm a sucker for sweet.

Now, I don't know whether they scammed me or there are new prices, but the joint charged me 350 for 40 minutes instead of 290. Soroya (sp?) was fine and accommodating in the room, but this place ain't no 4 x4 for the price. And way too smoky. If you're in Barra, it's worth visiting, otherwise, I wouldn't bother.

6 B. Alice, terapeuta from Tijuca.

Got her info from reading Gparena. Alice is legendary there with dozens of raving reviews. She's 40-something and you won't confuse her face for a face of a 20-year old, but I can guarantee you won't find a perfectly sculpted body like hers on many 20-year olds. Just heed the word "sculpted". Those of you, silicon haters, needn't worry, LOL. No bed, just a huge chair and a stretcher.

What else? Doesn't offer anal, but great service otherwise, including the massage. Did 2 hours with her for 340, and it was money well spent. If you only have one spot for a mature woman on your busy schedule, make it count, kkkk.

The reviews are here. And the latest report from Dante is a great read.

https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=196

That's about it. Soon I moved to Hilton, a family member got sick, so I flew back the next day. This was my shortest long-haul ever.

Till next time.

Bravo
03-10-23, 01:43
This is going to be brief. Came to Rio for 2 weeks of fun and debauchery, but had to rush back home due to a family emergency.

Anyway, here goes.

1. Hotels: Hyatt in Barra and Hilton in Leme. Both are GF, but Hilton has a long registration form. Hyatt is more relaxed, but guests are not allowed in common areas.

Hyatt is in the middle of nowhere even for Barra, but it's a beautiful beachfront resort with nice, extensive pools and laidback feel. You won't find that feel in Copa, so 3 days at Hyatt might be a good place to decompress.

Get an ocean- or lagoon-front room at Hyatt if you can swing it.

.The HYATT is my go-to spot when I take a civilian on a date, women love the place!! (I would strongly advice against taking a GDP to the Hyatt because you would stand out and look like an idiot).

Xpartan
03-10-23, 06:23
The HYATT is my go-to spot when I take a civilian on a date, women love the place!! (I would strongly advice against taking a GDP to the Hyatt because you would stand out and look like an idiot).Don't know about that. I've brought terma girls there, just telling them to wear civilian clothes was enough. Didn't take them to a pool though.

Ramses2
03-10-23, 18:09
What are the best options for Saturdays? I know 4 x 4 is closed, but I couldn't figure out if dark room is open on Saturdays.

Axel Heyst
03-10-23, 18:38
The HYATT is my go-to spot when I take a civilian on a date, women love the place!! (I would strongly advice against taking a GDP to the Hyatt because you would stand out and look like an idiot).
Don't know about that. I've brought terma girls there, just telling them to wear civilian clothes was enough. Didn't take them to a pool though.A couple of thoughts come to mind after reading your latest posts. 1. Concerning "look (ing) like an idiot:" there are 3 main reasons why one might stand out with a girl at a 5 star resort like the Hyatt Barra; the age difference, the girl's appearance or dress, and her behavior in public. As far as these issues are concerned, I mostly don't give a fuck what others think plus I am pretty sure nobody really cares anyway as long as the girl's appearance and behavior is fairly reasonable and not too slutty. The bottom line is I think it depends on the quality of your GDP. For example, I have invited over some very attractive Barra Vip girls & Terma girls and nobody at the Hyatt, staff or guests batted an eye.

My 2nd thought is this: the Hyatt Barra is a great hotel on the nicest, most natural section of Praia Barra. Considering how 1st class this hotel is, the price is very reasonable. All rooms have balconies. The rooms facing the ocean are the most expensive while the rooms facing the lagoon are the least expensive, but both types of rooms have great views so unless the hoel wants to upgrade my room for free which they have done for me a few times, I don't care.


This is going to be brief. Came to Rio for 2 weeks of fun and debauchery, but had to rush back home due to a family emergency. [The only con I have concerning a stay at the Hyatt Barra is it's location in respect to mongering. It is roughly 40 minutes by Uber to 4 x4 which is not as bad as it sounds since an Uber from Ipanema to 4 x 4 is around 30 minutes, but if one is planning to fool around in Copa late at night at places like Casablanca, Kalabria, MAB's, or Dolce Vita it would be better to stay at a nearby hotel like the Marriott, the Hilton, or Windsor California. Xpartan had a good plan; stay in both areas. It is too bad he had to shorten his trip. But you are a standup guy, Xpartan, to cut your trip short on account of a "family emergency". A lot of jagoffs wouldn't.

Lastly, I am planning a little road trip with my favorite Scandallo girl whom I have known for over a year and a half. First, we are going to drive to Ilhabela and stay there for a few nights, and then we will continue up the coast to RJ where we will stay at the Hyatt. Valerie is a real nice looking, tier 2 Scandallo girl. She does not look like a pro. I can take her anywhere although there is a significant age difference. I am sure we will have a great time at the Hyatt and nobody will give us as much as 2nd glance, not that I give a damn.

WyattEarp
03-10-23, 21:03
What are the best options for Saturdays? I know 4 x 4 is closed, but I couldn't figure out if dark room is open on Saturdays.Try Termas Solarium Saturdays. It on the north side of the lagoon. Ipanema is on the south side.

Bravo
03-10-23, 22:41
Valerie is a real nice looking, tier 2 Scandallo girl. She does not look like a pro. I can take her anywhere although there is a significant age difference. I am sure we will have a great time at the Hyatt and nobody will give us as much as 2nd glance, not that I give a damn.If you don't give a damn what others think, then why does her attire, age and behavior matter? If your "not giving a damn attitude" works for you, then more power to you! Live Life!! I have seen plenty of mongers stroll into the Copa Palace with Obvious hookers, they head right up to their room and they didn't care what the hotel staff said behind their backs. I carry myself differently and I tend to be more discreet. But to each their own, March to the beat of your drum!!

Rio Bob
03-11-23, 00:28
I had a girl come over yesterday for some afternoon delight, I met her in dolce vita one night and she asked me if I've ever been to Kalabria, I said no. She told me two people got shot dead there last night and she showed me the security video. On that night I went to Casablanca for the first time, 3 doormen in front tell me 100 reais to enter which includes 2 drinks of local national drinks nothing imported, I pay and go in. I ordered a beer and I sit on the stage, no dancers yet. The place had a good amount of girls at midnight. I look around and there are some very nice ones. A very beautiful girl comes and sits next to me and we talk, I said I was going to get a drink do you want one? She said get me a medium bottle of champagne LOL. I go to the bar and ask how much is a medium bottle of champagne? Almost 300 reais LOL, I said give me a beer and I never return to this beauty. I go over and talk to this beautiful MILF type, I asked her how much for you to go with me, she said you pay the house 1,000 reais, I said you're kidding, I finished my beer and left.

Axel Heyst
03-11-23, 00:32
If you don't give a damn what others think, then why does her attire, age and behavior matter?..It doesn't matter to me. I think it matters to you. I was merely extrapolating on the idea that you brought up in your OP. "I would strongly advice against taking a GDP to the Hyatt because you would stand out and look like an idiot. " I completely disagree with your sentiment, but then I thought about what possible reasons someone might "stand out," in your words, merely by being with a sexy, young, pro at a 5-star resort like the Hyatt Barra and I came up with 3 possible: 1. The age difference, 2. The girl's appearance or dress, and 3. Bad behavior in public. Probably #3 is the one we all might want to avoid. KKK.

But then you say that you "tend to be more discreet." I don't know what that means. In a hotel or restaurant environment I am probably as polite, well behaved, and civil as you if not more. The definition of discreet is: "careful and circumspect in one's speech or actions, especially in order to avoid causing offense or to gain an advantage. " Interesting. So, what offence do you think I and other punters are causing by being with a pretty working girl at a beach resort or fine restaurant? I think most people don't care who punters are with. I think most people don't pay attention to the other people around them unless their actions cause them to look. We are all narrowly focused on ourselves. So, I don't think anything I am doing with young girls out in public is wrong or should cause any attention. Thus, I am not embarrassed when I am away from the bordello having a good time with a pretty, professional, young girl. It is my business and no one else's. And here is my final point; even if some people are aware of us and one or two is offended by our presence in a restaurant or beach resort; who the fuck cares? KKK.


I have seen plenty of mongers stroll into the Copa Palace with Obvious hookers, they head right up to their room and they didn't care what the hotel staff said behind their backs. I carry myself differently and I tend to be more discreet.To be clear, based on your discreet tolerance level, you are not comfortable taking girls back to the Hyatt with you. That's OK with me. I don't care what you do. There are many, many different ways to play the game. Rock on!

TjBrazil
03-11-23, 05:41
Is Kalabria and Casablanca like a smaller Help or is like Barbarelles which I hated.

Sperto
03-11-23, 08:37
She told me two people got shot dead there last night and she showed me the security video.They survived.

https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/noticia/2023/03/duas-pessoas-sao-baleadas-em-frente-a-uma-casa-noturna-na-zona-sul-do-rio.ghtml

Turgid
03-11-23, 14:46
I had a girl come over yesterday for some afternoon delight, I met her in dolce vita one night and she asked me if I've ever been to Kalabria, I said no. She told me two people got shot dead there last night and she showed me the security video. On that night I went to Casablanca for the first time, 3 doormen in front tell me 100 reais to enter which includes 2 drinks of local national drinks nothing imported, I pay and go in. I ordered a beer and I sit on the stage, no dancers yet. The place had a good amount of girls at midnight. I look around and there are some very nice ones. A very beautiful girl comes and sits next to me and we talk, I said I was going to get a drink do you want one? She said get me a medium bottle of champagne LOL. I go to the bar and ask how much is a medium bottle of champagne? Almost 300 reais LOL, I said give me a beer and I never return to this beauty. I go over and talk to this beautiful MILF type, I asked her how much for you to go with me, she said you pay the house 1,000 reais, I said you're kidding, I finished my beer and left.That's what you get for entering the place wearing a Louis Vuitton shirt.

Chica Chaser
03-11-23, 15:29
SOLARIUM:

Unlike Whiskeria Cuatro por Cuatro (4 x 4) Solarium would not let me take a photo of the price card. I asked, "What if I want to tell my friends. Do you want me to rely on memory?" to which the guy, there were two women also, somewhat cheekily replied that they could come here and the staff would be happy to tell them all about it. Sigh. So I memorized the one hour pricing and headed out the door to put the details in a note:

Prices in Reales.

(At posting time 100 equals about $27 CAD, $19 USD, 16 Pounds, 18 Euros.).

150 entrada, 180 cabina, 470 the girl = 800.

If you pay everything in cash its 730.

If you pay the entrance in cash when entering you "win," a free drink.

If you pay for the girl with a card it's, I think, 50 more? Sorry. Some info leaked out of my brain as I exited. It's definitely more though.

WHISKERIA cuatro por cuatro (4 x 4):

60 entrance, 310 30 minutes, 430 60 minutes.

As you reported the entrance is waived if you take a girl before 6.

No extra charge for using a card; No discount for using cash.

It's worth noting that 4 x4 (smartly) uses two card processing networks. So if one doesn't work, as was the case with me, the other likely will.

PEROLA NEGRA:

I'd not heard of this place but might check it out. So thanks for mentioning it.


I will be visiting Rio in a couple of weeks, and I have read posts from the past year to update my info. I am planning to visit Solarium, 4 x 4, and Perola Negra. (And maybe some privees too.).

Here is information I have collected about these places.

Solarium. Entry R120, Girl R490/40 min or R630/60 min.

4 x 4 - Entry 60 (waived if room before 6 pm), Girl R300/30 min or R420/60 min.

Perola Negra. Entry R30, Girl R290/40 min (or R350 with room upgrade).

Does this look like correct current pricing? I have read about super-high takeout fees from 4 x 4, so better to just ask the girl to meet outside. Is it the same at Solarium and Perola Negra?

What are the best times of day to visit these places on weekdays?

Rocko20
03-11-23, 16:08
And back to our feature presentation.

So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas.
Outstanding and insightful trip report, thank you. I'm debating on making a trip to RJ or SJ and this has helped me understand where the best spots are.

Steve 9696
03-11-23, 16:56
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.

Axel Heyst
03-11-23, 17:26
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.Steve, I am sorry to hear about your incident and your loss, but come clean, you guys were probably having too good a time and nobody was paying adequate attention to what was immediately going on right in front of you.

In over 30 years of mongering, the only time I felt wandering hands was one night in BKK when I was walking back to my hotel at 2 am drunk on 9 or more shots of Tequila. I stopped to flirt with 2 SW's a block from my hotel. Even though I was out of it, fortunately I was aware enough to feel a hand attempting to lift my wallet from my back pocket. I stopped her just in time and she apologized. I laughed and told the 2 of them to beat it which they did. I was lucky. The moral of my story is always pay attention to your surroundings and who you allow to enter your personal space.

Anyway, I am looking forward to reading your RJ report. And again, it is too bad about your loss. I do feel your pain. I would not enjoy losing my Samsung S21 Ultra to a pretty pickpocket.

JuliusGeezer
03-11-23, 18:05
I had a girl come over yesterday for some afternoon delight, I met her in dolce vita one night and she asked me if I've ever been to Kalabria, I said no. She told me two people got shot dead there last night and she showed me the security video. On that night I went to Casablanca for the first time, 3 doormen in front tell me 100 reais to enter which includes 2 drinks of local national drinks nothing imported, I pay and go in. I ordered a beer and I sit on the stage, no dancers yet. The place had a good amount of girls at midnight. I look around and there are some very nice ones. A very beautiful girl comes and sits next to me and we talk, I said I was going to get a drink do you want one? She said get me a medium bottle of champagne LOL. I go to the bar and ask how much is a medium bottle of champagne? Almost 300 reais LOL, I said give me a beer and I never return to this beauty. I go over and talk to this beautiful MILF type, I asked her how much for you to go with me, she said you pay the house 1,000 reais, I said you're kidding, I finished my beer and left.Tried searching for this shooting online, don't see any news. You would think this would be big news, no? I know it's Brazil but still this is in the middle of Copa, not some favela.

I went to Casablanca for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Agreed on the drinks, total rip off. 77 reias for a mixed drink like Red Bull vodka. In terms of the girls, I don't know if there was miscommunication but that $1,000 is ridiculous. I made a huge mistake of getting a room there as I thought it might be like a terma LOL, it was tiny and more like had a couch rather than a bed. Also I'm certain that there's no facility for the girls there to wash themselves, just tiny bathroom as I went in the back. Anyways lesson learnt, never get a room there. The fee to get a room there is $150 reias or you pay $200 reias to the club to take the girl outside, the lady told me whatever you decide with the girl is between you two but these prices were fixed. I'm not sure where this $1,000 reias came from, that's crazy. I wonder if they were trying to rip you off or there was miscommunication. In terms of the girls, the range was like $300 reias to $600 or so I believe depending on which girl was asking, this does not include the $150/200 you pay to the club.

JuliusGeezer
03-11-23, 18:07
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.Sorry to hear that Steve, love all your reports. Still not sure what exactly happened to you here, who were you walking with and who got your phone? Anyways most important thing is hope you're safe and got the accounts sorted, best of luck.

Sperto
03-11-23, 19:08
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.That's a very old trick. The victims are usually newbies. There is no reason to avoid walking along Avenida Atlantica as long as you use common sense.

Mongoose312
03-11-23, 20:49
Is Kalabria and Casablanca like a smaller Help or is like Barbarelles which I hated.Kalabria is pretty cool-basically a small bar with some girls around it. Go in and scope it, have a beer, pick one or don't. I think there's a room on site but most people takeout. Casablanca is similar (although I could be thinking of Marakesh) but with more of a club / disco vibe, sort of a cross between Dolce Vita and Kalabria. Actually yeah that's Marrakesh. Casablanca straight up club.

Vagabundo1
03-11-23, 22:05
Vagabundo too is sorry to hear about that, but concurs with Sperto. Further. That just doesn't happen in Barra. Barra is the real rich, mostly white (unfortunately, it is de facto whites only) area where a broken windows theory of policing results in zero tolerance for property theft like that.

Just search Posto 2, Barra, for places.

Also, just make a little wrist leash out of some parachute cord for your phone.

Phone theft has claimed victims who are air force officers as well as dozens that I alone hear about from ISG-ers every year.

Think prevention. As a rule, in high risk areas, like centro, when I have my cell phone with a wrist leash out, I also have my taser flashlight out. The locals know it is a choque flashlight, and no one wants to get tasered.


That's a very old trick. The victims are usually onewbies. There is no reason to avoid walking along Avenida Atlantica as long as you use common sense.

Balboa
03-11-23, 23:23
That's a very old trick. The victims are usually newbies. There is no reason to avoid walking along Avenida Atlantica as long as you use common sense.There's an area along Ave Atlantica where the girls (trannies actually) swarm guys for the pick pocket.

Keep your hands in your pockets and firmly say no obrigado, and keep a brisk walk, or just cross over to the beach side of the road, along the kiosks.

Nordico
03-12-23, 00:36
Tried searching for this shooting online, don't see any news. You would think this would be big news, no? I know it's Brazil but still this is in the middle of Copa, not some favela.Could it be this one? https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2023/03/6589758-casal-e-baleado-durante-saida-de-boate-na-zona-sul.html. There is also a security video in the article.

JuliusGeezer
03-12-23, 01:14
Could it be this one? https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2023/03/6589758-casal-e-baleado-durante-saida-de-boate-na-zona-sul.html. There is also a security video in the article.Got to be it, address matches up too, thanks. By the looks of the video, doesn't look like it had anything to do with the club or anyone in there which is why maybe the club is not named anywhere in the articles I was trying to search, the staff look shocked as well and caught off guard. Stay safe out there everyone.

Chica Chaser
03-12-23, 01:50
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.Inspired by a friend of mine who always wears shorts with four zip up pockets. Two up top in front and two below in front. None in back. I ordered the same from Amazon. No-name brand but great quality and look. The pocket I keep my phone in gets unzipped and zipped countless times per day, now for more than three months, and has no sign of failing.

Pickpockets probably move on to easier targets. I hope.

Vagabundo1
03-12-23, 01:56
Copa IS in the middle of 3 favelas.

That is a direct observation from one of my regulars, who lives in a favela.

That's why I live in Barra, and advise anyone staying longer than 3 days to do the same.

[QUOT=Nordico;2797042]Could it be this one? https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2023/03/6589758-casal-e-baleado-durante-saida-de-boate-na-zona-sul.html. There is also a security video in the article. [ / QUOTE].

Mr Enternational
03-12-23, 02:16
Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.Never had a problem with this and I have been walking that street alone at all times of night for over 20 years. The problem is not walking. The problem is letting someone get up on you. Were they chicks or dudes? Good video from a couple weeks ago.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshh45Iaw2f9r0NSrK0P/you-going-to-jail-now-woman-is-busted-by-police-after-pickpocketing-phones-from-carnival-goers-in-brazil

Mr Enternational
03-12-23, 02:37
I was walking back to my hotel at 2 am drunk on 9 or more shots of Tequila. I stopped to flirt with 2 SW's a block from my hotel. Even though I was out of it, fortunately I was aware enough to feel a hand attempting to lift my wallet from my back pocket. I stopped her just in time and she apologized. I laughed and told the 2 of them to beat it which they did. You are walking down the street drunk in a foreign country when 2 locals try to rob you. You tell the robbers to leave the vicinity and they did? You must be Batman.

Mr Enternational
03-12-23, 02:48
Could it be this one? https://odia.ig.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/2023/03/6589758-casal-e-baleado-durante-saida-de-boate-na-zona-sul.html. There is also a security video in the article.Appears the guy was not trying to shoot, only scare and batter the guy. But since he had his finger on the trigger when he slapped him with the gun, the gun fired.

TravelGuy79
03-12-23, 03:43
Is there a list of pirves in Copa or that area. I'm staying in Ipanema. I know 583 and eden spa and Delirio Oriental. Two times ago when I was here about two years ago I went to centro once but I found it hard to navigate all the big business buildings to find the prives. Any suggestions? To add my two cents I did enjoy both whiskeria 65 and club New York. Any other places you would recommend.

UniversalX
03-12-23, 04:34
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.This should have been posted in Rio de Janeiro. Crime & Safety thread. What you wear can help mitigate pick pockets Rio Bob has the right idea.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1507-Rio-de-Janeiro-Crime-amp-Safety&p=2599911&viewfull=1#post2599911.

There are basic security measures to prevent pick pockets. Wear pants with security pockets (zippers even shirts with Velcro closures).

https://www.clothingarts.com/

Columbia Men's Silver Ridge Cargo Pant (https://www.amazon.com/pick-pocket-proof-pants/s?k=pick+pocket+proof+pants)

https://www.scottevest.com/products/elevated-everyday-lounge-shorts

Pick Pocket Proof Shirts (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pick+pocket+proof+shirts&crid=1VB2G9KV3HBCM&sprefix=pick+pocket+proof+shirts%2Caps%2C109&ref=nb_sb_noss_1)

The Cane
03-12-23, 04:39
Had a rippin time at one of the termas yesterday (report coming) but word to the wise. Don't walk late night even with a group of guys. No problem with thugs but we were accosted by several pros on our way down Atlantic Avenue. Sounds like no problem right?

Well Two out of the three of us found our phones missing on arrival at hotel! The hands on had been hands IN pockets. Both of us spent half the night changing passwords etc. Mega buzz killer. Just don't walk at night period IMO.Never let anybody you don't know get all up on you and all handsy! You absolutely can walk around at night but you can never let your guard down ever. Which means not letting strangers get all close and touchy feely! And don't be walking around drunk either! An expensive lesson learned.

Xpartan
03-12-23, 05:47
A couple of thoughts come to mind after reading your latest posts. 1. Concerning "look (ing) like an idiot:" there are 3 main reasons why one might stand out with a girl at a 5 star resort like the Hyatt Barra; the age difference, the girl's appearance or dress, and her behavior in public. As far as these issues are concerned, I mostly don't give a fuck what others think plus I am pretty sure nobody really cares anyway as long as the girl's appearance and behavior is fairly reasonable and not too slutty. The bottom line is I think it depends on the quality of your GDP. For example, I have invited over some very attractive Barra Vip girls & Terma girls and nobody at the Hyatt, staff or guests batted an eye.Did you take them to the pool or the beach? Hyatt expressly asked me not to bring them to public areas. I don't see how they would enforce it, but I normally just have them for a 1 hour session so never tried anyway.


My 2nd thought is this: the Hyatt Barra is a great hotel on the nicest, most natural section of Praia Barra. Considering how 1st class this hotel is, the price is very reasonable. All rooms have balconies. The rooms facing the ocean are the most expensive while the rooms facing the lagoon are the least expensive, but both types of rooms have great views so unless the hoel wants to upgrade my room for free which they have done for me a few times, I don't care.They also have rooms facing the pools, which I would consider the least desirable. I normally book oceanfront, and this time when I asked for a late checkout they moved me to a lagoon-view room in the afternoon. I was surprised how much I liked that view and the room. Very peaceful.


The only con I have concerning a stay at the Hyatt Barra is it's location in respect to mongering. It is roughly 40 minutes by Uber to 4 x4 which is not as bad as it sounds since an Uber from Ipanema to 4 x 4 is around 30 minutes, but if one is planning to fool around in Copa late at night at places like Casablanca, Kalabria, MAB's, or Dolce Vita it would be better to stay at a nearby hotel like the Marriott, the Hilton, or Windsor California. Xpartan had a good plan; stay in both areas. It is too bad he had to shorten his trip. But you are a standup guy, Xpartan, to cut your trip short on account of a "family emergency". A lot of jagoffs wouldn't.I wouldn't have done it for everyone, but that particular family member is totally worth the sacrifice, kkkk.


SOLARIUM:

Unlike Whiskeria Cuatro por Cuatro (4 x 4) Solarium would not let me take a photo of the price card. I asked, "What if I want to tell my friends. Do you want me to rely on memory?" to which the guy, there were two women also, somewhat cheekily replied that they could come here and the staff would be happy to tell them all about it. Sigh. So I memorized the one hour pricing and headed out the door to put the details in a note:

Prices in Reales.

(At posting time 100 equals about $27 CAD, $19 USD, 16 Pounds, 18 Euros.).

150 entrada, 180 cabina, 470 the girl = 800.

If you pay everything in cash its 730.

If you pay the entrance in cash when entering you "win," a free drink.

If you pay for the girl with a card it's, I think, 50 more? Sorry. Some info leaked out of my brain as I exited. It's definitely more though.If you sign up for their emails you'll get a little discount. Last time I got 40 Reais off the room. 8 bucks is 8 bucks.

Vagabundo1
03-12-23, 12:26
Two hidden, zippered pockets perfect for cash or surf wallet, and four pockets, perfect for knives or taser flashlights.

https://www.decathlon.com/products/trail-running-comfort-tight-shorts-168232?adept-product=trail-running-comfort-tight-shorts-168232&variant=18625316749374&adept_product_id=trail-running-comfort-tight-shorts-168232&source=search#product-videos.


This should have been posted in Rio de Janeiro. Crime & Safety thread. What you wear can help mitigate pick pockets Rio Bob has the right idea.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1507-Rio-de-Janeiro-Crime-amp-Safety&p=2599911&viewfull=1#post2599911.

There are basic security measures to prevent pick pockets. Wear pants with security pockets (zippers even shirts with Velcro closures).

https://www.clothingarts.com/

Columbia Men's Silver Ridge Cargo Pant (https://www.amazon.com/pick-pocket-proof-pants/s?k=pick+pocket+proof+pants)

https://www.scottevest.com/products/elevated-everyday-lounge-shorts

Pick Pocket Proof Shirts (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pick+pocket+proof+shirts&crid=1VB2G9KV3HBCM&sprefix=pick+pocket+proof+shirts%2Caps%2C109&ref=nb_sb_noss_1)

Axel Heyst
03-12-23, 14:44
You are walking down the street drunk in a foreign country when 2 locals try to rob you. You tell the robbers to leave the vicinity and they did? You must be Batman.OK, you may call me Mr. Wayne if you prefer. Ha Ha. But I think you have misinterpreted my story. I was not walking down the street in just any foreign country. I was walking down Soi Sukhumvit in LOS. That makes a whole lot of difference. In addition, the 2 girls were SW's not professional pickpockets. They were hanging out on the street at 2 am to find a customer not pickpocket, but when they saw me in my friendly inebriated state one of them saw an opportunity and made a play for my wallet. The girl acted embarrassed when I caught her with her fingers on my wallet and both of them wanted to immediately split without my saying a word. Interestingly, I never saw those two again even though I had my eye out for them in the following weeks.

But the incident would never have occurred if I had not acted so foolishly. Thailand is so relatively crime free that it can lull one into dropping one's guard. As you point out, "The problem is letting someone get up on you" or as I posted, it is important to "always pay attention to your surroundings and who you allow to enter your personal space. ".

Axel Heyst
03-12-23, 18:10
Did you take them to the pool or the beach? Hyatt expressly asked me not to bring them to public areas. I don't see how they would enforce it, but I normally just have them for a 1 hour session so never tried anyway.

They also have rooms facing the pools, which I would consider the least desirable. I normally book oceanfront, and this time when I asked for a late checkout they moved me to a lagoon-view room in the afternoon. I was surprised how much I liked that view and the room. Very peaceful.
Most of my "guests" have been ST evening affairs, so we did not have the opportunity to hang out by the pool. I took one girl to Shiso, a Michelin sushi restaurant, at the hotel. The dinner was great. And I had Terma girl come over one Sunday afternoon and we went to the beach. We used 2 beach lounge chairs provided by the hotel. Nobody questioned us. The hotel staff couldn't have cared less. When Valerie and I show up there for our upcoming 4-night visit, I will have her checked in as a hotel guest so there will definitely not be any problem for us using any of the public areas.

The lagoon side rooms are the same as the ocean front rooms except for the view which is great in both rooms. So IMHO there is no reason to pay more for the ocean front rooms unless you really want an ocean front room. In any case, I am a Hyatt member, and the front desk has upgraded my reservation to an ocean front room on several occasions. On cold windy nights it can feel 10 degrees (f) warmer on a lagoon side balcony vs. Being on an ocean front balcony, however.

Axel Heyst
03-12-23, 18:17
Two hidden, zippered pockets perfect for cash or surf wallet, and four pockets, perfect for knives or taser flashlights.



Inspired by a friend of mine who always wears shorts with four zip up pockets. Two up top in front and two below in front. None in back. I ordered the same from Amazon. No-name brand but great quality and look. The pocket I keep my phone in gets unzipped and zipped countless times per day, now for more than three months, and has no sign of failing.

Pickpockets probably move on to easier targets. I hope.You zipper pocket guys are in luck. CLOTHING ARTS is having a 25% off sale on their travelwear. The sell quality products. I have a pair of their traveler jeans, but I have never brought them with me to Brazil. KKK.

https://www.clothingarts.com/cart?utm_source=Klaviyo&utm_medium=campaign&_kx=eOrxNL-9PkV3uQ2SMdZRLgDL4EBXbj6zck1yLgQPaJIHuEElkqoYD4_v5YiAkfRi.bzuHhQ

Junior11
03-12-23, 18:21
My problem is that I sometimes forget to close the damn zipper. I believe that is why I have been targeted and my phone was stolen last August. I need bag / shorts with auto-zip LOL. When will we add Ai to zippers?


Inspired by a friend of mine who always wears shorts with four zip up pockets. Two up top in front and two below in front. None in back. I ordered the same from Amazon. No-name brand but great quality and look. The pocket I keep my phone in gets unzipped and zipped countless times per day, now for more than three months, and has no sign of failing.

Pickpockets probably move on to easier targets. I hope.

Stinky Squid
03-13-23, 04:07
Oh man! After my time in India and Thailand I am so happy with being in Brazil again. I can't describe how much better it is for me here. And it's already (again) getting out of scope of this forum. I had some great time in So Paulo, even with the photoacompanhantes, and I have a list of several more to see. Then also in the smaller towns of Vale de Paraiba I had excellent experiences. And it never was the expensive options. And now in Rio I had again met some awesome girls in exactly the cheap places. And as I am vacillating between wanting to realize hardcore scenes and falling in love with the girls, I have found not one but two love interests. It has been my experience that chemistry cannot be faked. And that for me to really be satisfied, I need that human connection, that kiss or at least passionate closeness in the moment of climax. And here in Brazil I get this and even if I don't the girls are just so delicious. There was the cheap one in Butant in SP who connected with me just the right way, she had a really good orgasm herself, and then was just perfect for me in the moment, I took her number, but my contact was never answered. There was the other one in the same place, and she reciprocated my passion quite a bit, so it was good. I took her number too, but didn't call her afterwards. I had one from So Josp dos Campos who did click a little bit, but then tried to play me. Her pussy smelled just the right way for me, a little like dirty b*tch, but not like disease, haha, I couldn't sleep that night trying to see her the next day again. Then when I saw her again she was less open, and that spoiled it. I tried to call her to a few days with me, and then she got greedy. But I saw her colleague there that morning, and the plan was to do both at the same time. That colleague was also my type, oh man, I love them morenas! Turned out she didn't want to so early in the morning. But I saw her later in a restaurant nearby and waved at her (I love not having to hide from nobody!). And lo and behold, a few weeks later she messages me inviting me to her, but now I'm in Rio and can't come back so quickly, but I do want to have her still.

So anyway, the one where I had become drunk on the smell of her pussy, she let me down. But then had the nerves to ask me for financial help. So I made her an offer, but she refused. If they are of the type who sense you like them and then they try to use that to do bait and switch on you, it's something to walk away from, but I let her refuse my offer first. You never know.

So, I ask them always what their financial and contractual arrangement with the place is. So I know the business quite well from the inside now. So if a chick does you for 120 reais, and you know she leaves half for the house, she makes 60 for herself. It's not like clients are queued up so they don't have dozens in one day. 10 in one day is already a decent number. So 600 a day is a fair rate. But then sometimes they get greedy or bitchy, rejecting my offer saying that "I charge 1200 per day" and I say, well good luck with that then. Obviously, if they upcharge you it's not going to be good. Now that does not mean that some girls who charge 500 or 700 per hour aren't worth it. My friend the porn starlet GiPaes is definitely worth it, because I know she likes me enough and she is up for anything. I can say that the hottest scenes in my life I had done with her, including filming some. That doesn't mean I can't do better yet, but those 3 hour sessions were 2100 reais and I do not regret any real spent on her. BUT the point is that money is no guarantee for success, except with the ones who give you license to basically no limits. One of those I am chasing for over a year and she is impossible to schedule. Probably because she doesn't like me so much, but I need to have her still, it is an obsession of mine.

Now in Rio I had found that the photoacompanhantes actually were pretty well matching the pictures in the cheap place I visited 5 times, with 4 different girls. All 4 young and pretty. One OK, two without chemistry (when they don't like your sweating it's already a bad sign.) And one of them to fall in love with, exactly because she gave herself to me in just the right way just when I needed her the most that way. You know, when they don't turn away, and not make a fuzz as you slowly rise to the moment of bliss. And this one was my favorite just from the looks. So I took her number, wanting to take her out in her off days, but she didn't reach out to me. So I visited her once more in the establishment, and we really liked each other and we cuddled and slept for 3 hours -- all of which I paid at the house rate of 120, but I just wanted to be with her. She is someone I could imagine having something more serious with. A girl who does not come from a fatherless household, who is doing this to pay for her law school instead of on futilities. And she has no early children. Very special. She told me she adored me and seems to have sent me a hint on her WhatsApp status ("se voce ficar comigo eu largo essa vida de ilusao") but when I message her she doesn't respond forever, so that's a sign of low interest or instability, so be it. Not the only option, but I could see something with her, she is so much my type. That face is incredible, I still see the echo of her face close to mine, her lips so incredibly right so close to me, at the moment. Oh man!

And then there was another under 200 real establishment in Barra, which I had bet money that they would be bait and switch operation. But no. I met a girl there who was lovely, pretty much matching the picture, and she did some magic with me. It was one of those that turned from blow-job to heart-job. Just like the one I had in the BJ bar in Pattaya on my first few days there. Only in this case we could talk and it seemed real, and she was so sweet, and totally appreciated me. And I learned her contract is even worse than the others I know. She works 12 days straight to get 2000 bucks fixed. Incredible. I would say abusive. But now I learn she had to almost beg to be accepted there. This girl I just invited to grab my hand and take the jump and I would take care of her. And she felt she owed this what I would consider abusive cafetao couple the loyalty of her to finish her turn of 12 days. She has a bunch of baggage, 2 children, that is heavy. But she is sooo cute can was so incredibly sweet with me, and seems very real, and meek and really lovely. So for her I change some of my plans.

And after that experience with her, I must have been glowing because even the greeter waitress in the sushi restaurant seemed to start vibing with me.

So anyway, I love Brazil and it is sad that my turn already is coming to an end. I go to Colombia next, and I learned I have to try the Philippines once, looking for good girls. Ah, and I'll go to Colombia the long way, via the interior of Brazil, small towns, then Manaus, to try out the Manauas, who one of the better girls told me, have a lot of indio blood (which I adore just from appearance) which, she says, makes them somewhat more sex crazed, that, of course, would be nice to experience. Then maybe I take the 3 day Amazon river boat trip to Tabatinga where I shall cross to Colonmbia.

But do I really want to leave? What am I going to do with my princesses I have already found, let alone the others I will still find until then? Oh man, it is so good here.

P.S.: once again I apologize for not being specific about the establishments and girls I am talking about, because I still have iron in the fire and am protective of my girls who I still have plans with.

Let me see, here are a few tips I have for you: there is a certain Keitlyn Dias in SP who attends together with another chick in Major Diogo 39, and while Keitlyn Dias is quite a bit heavier than in the picture, she does do a good job and the two together are really involved with each other, kissing and all, and that is so much fun. And there is Leticia Amorim in the same building and she is a queen of the face fuck. Very nice personality. A little taller than I prefer. I was living in the same building for a week and did not go back to her. Yes, that's SP. In RJ I had one really young 18 or 19 years, Luana Coelho, slender coffe-with-milk skinned girl in 13 de Maio 33, suite 3206, she was cold with me, and yet I feel I want to go back because she knew how to use her mouth, with toungue out and working it deep inside and she was drooling and I love that. Sometimes when they are not nice and don't want to kiss, but you can do their mouth, then I need to learn just to use that option that is being offered. There are several more still on my list. There is so much to explore still.

Priint
03-13-23, 05:17
And there is Leticia Amorim in the same building and she is a queen of the face fuck. Very nice personality.Thank you so much for the wonderful write-up. I am in SP later this week and would love to meet Leticia. I tried to message via Twitter but it didn't go through. One of the tweets from February mentioned a break and possible return in March. Is she actually back? I would appreciate any tips for getting in touch with her if she is indeed back. TIA.

Xpartan
03-13-23, 05:26
Oh man! After my time in India and Thailand I am so happy with being in Brazil again. What a beautiful report. Kudos!

Junior11
03-13-23, 19:08
Apparently anyone can apply for CPF online and get it. So far I read that it is helpful with different things from sim-card to car rentals.

What are the upsides & downside of having one (for a frequent extended stay monger: D)?

Steve 9696
03-13-23, 21:04
Having spent time in São Paulo at both Scandallo and Casarao (see the São Paulo thread for full report) I then hit Rio. I had not been there previously.

I have to say that I am going to strongly disagree with the general wisdom of the forum on best clubs in Rio. We were not impressed with the most recommended clubs here, but rather found a gem that doesn't get much love here. Maybe we just got lucky. A caveat is that I love Brasileiras and the amazing Brasileira bunda, but prefer a slim waist vs a thick girl where possible. So this of course colors my thinking.

First stop was Monte Carlo on a Friday afternoon because it was close by. I warned my buddy (who is kinda new to this) to not expect much, given what I'the read on the forum, but we were in for a nice surprise. As a bonus, Monte Carlo also had an English speaking receptionist and a clear pricing card that explains the options.

Monte Carlo is very much like German FKK in miniature, so we got our robe and showered. The showering area is well stocked with toothbrushes razors deodorant and mouthwash. Once refreshed, we took the narrow stairs up to the bar.

It's a small narrow bar with seating on both sides and a bar at the end. The service was great from start to finish. When we arrived at 3 Pm — they had just opened and there were 10 girls and we were the ONLY guys. We thought we would settle in but when we sat down they formed a semicircle in front of us and wanted us to pick. Once you are experienced it appears you can wave this off but we didn't know at the time.

Now here is the amazing part. ALL ten of these girls are pretty. 8 of the 10 are slim and pretty and there are some amazing looking girls by my standards. I'the say most girls were 8's a few 6-7 and a couple 9's or more. This was a stunningly good lineup (for my and my buddies taste) and that was our experience at Monte Carlo throughout the weekend.

Asked to choose, my buddy grabbed a 9 (I had her later that weekend and whoa — 9 in the room also) and I grabbed a 9. 5. I mean this girl was stunning. Stunning face. Stunning body. Perfect Brasileira bunda on a tiny waist! OMG. Perfection.

I had a nice time in the room but my petite 19 year old goddess insisted CBJ so that was a bummer. Nice DATY. Solid BJ and great fucking in all positions. Ultimately came in the Steve position looking at her perfect face. Amazing lips. Stunning eyes. Just to die for.

My buddy was in love with his girl and she in love with him. He'the booked an hour and they were up there waaay past the bell. Maybe 1:20 or so!!

When we finished and checked out, finances were roughly 900 R all in for each of us because we went with an hour and a suite. Later we would get smart and take the 40 minutes and small cabine option and that's like 680 R all in. There is a cover but it's moot because most is consumable. We didn't get any surprise bills.

After a rest up and our other buddy arriving later in the day we decided to hit 4 x4. Perhaps 10 on a Friday. We were NOT impressed. Loud trashy vibe (IMO) and the girls were waaaay downscale from Monte Carlo. Perhaps if you stay and really sift thru you will find a gem. But both my buddies were not feeling it so we bounced after one drink. Really disappointed in 4 x4.

We bounced over to Solarium in an Uber. This was def a lot better. Really nice facility (nicer than Monte Carlo). But the lineup was not as good (again just my opinion). A couple cuties but mostly locked up talking to other guys. I did pull a girl for a chat but was put off by her attitude and we bounced again. I'the put Solarium way above 4 x4 both in facilities and girls, but a notch below MC for the girls, which is what really matters. My buddies were adamant that it was significantly below MC in girl quality (where we returned).

OK so full circle, we head back to Monte Carlo. I guess it mighta been midnight by now? Great lineup again. Mostly the same girls. But a lot more guys. The free girls make a lineup. This time we stall long enough and drink and the girls one by one drop from the lineup. So we are able to settle in and relax a bit.

Eventually me and Mark wave girls over. Imo marks is a bit older and not the prettiest — maybe a six — but he is happy and mine is a beautiful petite firecracker with shoulder length curly / wavy hair. Both girls are very friendly with hand on thigh and a bit of sexy touching to get things going in the bar. Being a bit smarter this time, I confirm "chupa sem camisinha"(BBBJ) with both girls, who agree enthusiastically and off we go.

Mark reports his girl was a total hornball and wanted finger in ass and anal but unfortunately he was too big. They had a whale of a time. My girl was great. Really solid BBBJ with plenty of BLS. Great sex. I remember they had on some seventies easy listening and I hit a nice rhythm in mish and fucked for a very long time. Then the music gods aligned the planets and, just as I started a slow build, put on a more up tempo song and I pounded one out in no time. Sometimes it all just lines up! Great girl.

Michael who is quite picky and a little shy just enjoyed the spectacle while we were gone. I joined him and after a while my hottie returned and I had her sit with him. Her hand stroking on his thigh, I could tell he was cracking. I spoke to her in Portuguese and told her to kiss him. She laid some great DFK on him and off they go to the room. Score! He was very happy with her.

At some point we packed it in, Mark and me both with two girls in the rearview (one from the afternoon) and Michael with one.

Next day where else would we go but Monte Carlo. We all three loved the place and still can't understand how 4 x4 gets played up and MC gets dissed. Anyhow to each his own I guess.

We arrived about 4 this time and the lineup was great with the same girls and a few new. Prob 3-5 guys at that point and 12 girls. I can't recall who Mark took, but I took an amazingly slim and quite tall morena with remarkable bee cups. I love morenas and it was a steady diet for me. She was great, tho the details are blurry at this point. Same BBBJ arrangement prior.

Oh and we found a petite spinner for Michael. Tiny little thing with A cup chest and a beautiful face. If you like tiny spinners — and I mean school girl petite — goddamn this girl was all that. He reported an amazing time in the room, including sharing a joint she provided. Quite the little sweetheart!

We decided to take a break for dinner and had a massive seaside dinner with more picanha and shrimp than we could eat. Excellent and a ton of food. From here Michael bailed; but Mark and I went for round two (and three it turns out! This time I took his girl from earlier and she was everything he raved about.

Besides a great in room experience this girl is fun in the club. Hand straying up to my balls and a little nice stroking for a long time. Even a little shaft brush as I was hard as a rock looking at all the hotties across the room and getting stroked at the same time.

Beautiful girl, long wavy hair, lots of doe eyes in BJ, ass play with an ocean of saliva she generated during sloppy BJ. That girl luvs to suck cock. She musta gone at it 30 minutes. (I got an hour based on Marks recommendation)! And she was sooooo into it and the sex that followed. You cannot fake that shit. She would ride cowgirl like her life depended on it and could cascade her Os like a very few girls can. Just makes you her boy toy. Not that I'm complaining.

Mark took a slim girl who seemed real fun in the club but was a bit pro in the room. Only really disappointing experience of the trip and even that was pretty good.

So after finishing our girls, we come back to the bar for a final drink. Now I thought I was the horn dog, but Mark sees his girl — the love of his life that I had earlier — and he says he wants to go again. She sits between us and works us both up a little and off they go.

So here I am at maybe midnight all by myself waiting, when who would show up but Michael's little spinner. I know she's a party girl because she smoked that joint with Michael in the room. So I call her over. Wowzers. If you like super petite she's your gal. We make out and she is a superb kisser which I love, esp since I've only had one great kisser this trip. Confirm BBBJ and off we go.

Fuck. This little girl (23 actually) fucks like an animal. Like serious animal passion throughout — absolutely no faking this animal aggression. Like in Cowgirl she literally has me pinned down and is grinding and shaking and sweating. It's really hard for her to get there, but I keep my boy toy pushed up hard and deep as she grinds and she eventually climaxes and literally collapses a sweaty spent mess. But with a big smile. Kkkkkk.

Nice sex and a lot of it in mish and doggie as well. Believe we finished it out with her sucking my balls while I jack off. This is my only sure fire closer after 9 girls in 5 days—sloppy ball work and shaft in hand. And bam we get it done! What a sweetheart.

Mark and I grab a final nightcap at the club to wind down. My little spinner comes back eventually and sees me across the club, walks over, and plants an affectionate kiss on me. Nice way to end the night! Totally spent after five girls in two days at Monte Carlo. Couldn't recommend more.

Summary of the Clubs: Unimpressed (understatement) by 4 x4. Solarium has nice facilities and I could surely find someone doable; but not sure all three of us could simultaneously. Monte Carlo was awesome despite the low girl count. To be fair Michael and I shared two different girls. And Mark and I shared one. So there are def some that are more appealing than others. But just a great solid lineup from top to bottom. And great in room performance as well.

Please note, also if you don't spend time at MC you could come in at a lull and draw the wrong conclusion. At 10 PM Sat night when I came back from the room, all the guys had taken girls and there were just three girls left in the corner. That's it. So if you came in right then it doesn't represent the usual state. Spend a bit of time to get the real vibe because it filled back up later.

Pro tip for Monte Carlo: put your phone in your robe pocket. It's allowed in the club (some don't) and I snagged both girls numbers the last night. Tho we couldn't quite hookup because I found an amazing seeking girl the next day (see separate report).

P.S.: I also checked out Dolce Vita and Kalabria after this. Ouch. At midnight on a Saturday there was not a single person in Dolce Vita. Nice looking club. But no guys no girls. No humans. Wtf? On Sat at midnight? I left. Walked around to Kalbria and there were three fat chicks in bikinis outside the door and I just walked on past.

The Cane
03-13-23, 21:55
I have to say that I am going to strongly disagree with the general wisdom of the forum on best clubs in Rio. We were not impressed with the most recommended clubs here, but rather found a gem that doesn't get much love here. Maybe we just got lucky. I had a nice time in the room but my petite 19 year old goddess insisted CBJ so that was a bummer. All I can say is that mongering in Brazil is just like in Germany or any other place in that you have to get around to all of the top clubs because you just never know where you're going to find the best talent. That place that was not the last time may be hot the next time! Over my many trips to Rio it never failed that on different visits I might have my best experience at Monte Carlo, 4 x4, Solarium, Centaurus, Termas 65, etc. You just never know, so I always make it a point to hit all of them at least once every single trip. Because a Brazilian termas is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get! Steve you've never, ever heard me trash Monte Carlo have you? And as for your reports on covered BJs I find that all pretty troubling. I have not once had a CBJ in Brazil. Not ever! And I've been going for almost two decades. I always make sure they know I want a BBJ before ever agreeing to go to the room. And if a garota agrees but then tries to renege in the room, then I would end the session immediately. I'm not going to reward that kind of behavior!

I'm glad you enjoyed Rio, but if you ever go again, then remember it's really important to hit as many clubs as possible because lineup quality can change drastically from trip to trip. That said, I can agree that 4 x4 seems to have lost something over the years. During my early trips to Rio it was simply outstanding Steve with many hot girls (including the "brancas" that I prefer) shooting porn and offering PSE sessions to tourist mongers such as myself. Simply outstanding. Helped to change my outlook on life LOL! Probably not much going to change on the facilities (we're just glad it's open again after the fire), but I would urge you to give it another try. Quatro por Quatro isn't for everybody for sure, but you probably ought to give it another look (and get one of the bigger and nicer rooms) before totally writing it off. Thanks for the report! And don't let strangers get up all on you again and steal your shit!

WyattEarp
03-13-23, 22:04
Having spent time in So Paulo at both Scandallo and Casarao (see the So Paulo thread for full report) I then hit Rio. I had not been there previously.

I have to say that I am going to strongly disagree with the general wisdom of the forum on best clubs in Rio. We were not impressed with the most recommended clubs here, but rather found a gem that doesn't get much love here. Maybe we just got lucky. A caveat is that I love Brasileiras and the amazing Brasileira bunda, but prefer a slim waist vs a thick girl where possible. So this of course colors my thinking.

First stop was Monte Carlo on a Friday afternoon because it was close by. I warned my buddy (who is kinda new to this) to not expect much, given what I'the read on the forum, but we were in for a nice surprise. As a bonus, Monte Carlo also had an English speaking receptionist and a clear pricing card that explains the options.

Monte Carlo is very much like German FKK in miniature, so we got our robe and showered. The showering area is well stocked with toothbrushes razors deodorant and mouthwash. Once refreshed, we took the narrow stairs up to the bar.

It's a small narrow bar with seating on both sides and a bar at the end. The service was great from start to finish. When we arrived at 3 Pm they had just opened and there were 10 girls and we were the ONLY guys. We thought we would settle in but when we sat down they formed a semicircle in front of us and wanted us to pick. Once you are experienced it appears you can wave this off but we didn't know at the time.

Now here is the amazing part. ALL ten of these girls are pretty. 8 of the 10 are slim and pretty and there are some amazing looking girls by my standards. I'the say most girls were 8's a few 6-7 and a couple 9's or more. This was a stunningly good lineup (for my and my buddies taste) and that was our experience at Monte Carlo throughout the weekend.

Asked to choose, my buddy grabbed a 9 (I had her later that weekend and whoa 9 in the room also) and I grabbed a 9. 5. I mean this girl was stunning. Stunning face. Stunning body. Perfect Brasileira bunda on a tiny waist! OMG. Perfection.

I had a nice time in the room but my petite 19 year old goddess insisted CBJ so that was a bummer. Nice DATY. Solid BJ and great fucking in all positions. Ultimately came in the Steve position looking at her perfect face. Amazing lips. Stunning eyes. Just to die for.

My buddy was in love with his girl and she in love with him. He'the booked an hour and they were up there waaay past the bell. Maybe 1:20 or so!!

When we finished and checked out, finances were roughly 900 R all in for each of us because we went with an hour and a suite. Later we would get smart and take the 40 minutes and small cabine option and that's like 680 R all in. There is a cover but it's moot because most is consumable. We didn't get any surprise bills.

After a rest up and our other buddy arriving later in the day we decided to hit 4 x4. Perhaps 10 on a Friday. We were NOT impressed. Loud trashy vibe (IMO) and the girls were waaaay downscale from Monte Carlo. Perhaps if you stay and really sift thru you will find a gem. But both my buddies were not feeling it so we bounced after one drink. Really disappointed in 4 x4.

We bounced over to Solarium in an Uber. This was def a lot better. Really nice facility (nicer than Monte Carlo). But the lineup was not as good (again just my opinion). A couple cuties but mostly locked up talking to other guys. I did pull a girl for a chat but was put off by her attitude and we bounced again. I'the put Solarium way above 4 x4 both in facilities and girls, but a notch below MC for the girls, which is what really matters. My buddies were adamant that it was significantly below MC in girl quality (where we returned).

OK so full circle, we head back to Monte Carlo. I guess it mighta been midnight by now? Great lineup again. Mostly the same girls. But a lot more guys. The free girls make a lineup. This time we stall long enough and drink and the girls one by one drop from the lineup. So we are able to settle in and relax a bit.

Eventually me and Mark wave girls over. Imo marks is a bit older and not the prettiest maybe a six but he is happy and mine is a beautiful petite firecracker with shoulder length curly / wavy hair. Both girls are very friendly with hand on thigh and a bit of sexy touching to get things going in the bar. Being a bit smarter this time, I confirm "chupa sem camisinha"(BBBJ) with both girls, who agree enthusiastically and off we go.

Mark reports his girl was a total hornball and wanted finger in ass and anal but unfortunately he was too big. They had a whale of a time. My girl was great. Really solid BBBJ with plenty of BLS. Great sex. I remember they had on some seventies easy listening and I hit a nice rhythm in mish and fucked for a very long time. Then the music gods aligned the planets and, just as I started a slow build, put on a more up tempo song and I pounded one out in no time. Sometimes it all just lines up! Great girl.

Michael who is quite picky and a little shy just enjoyed the spectacle while we were gone. I joined him and after a while my hottie returned and I had her sit with him. Her hand stroking on his thigh, I could tell he was cracking. I spoke to her in Portuguese and told her to kiss him. She laid some great DFK on him and off they go to the room. Score! He was very happy with her.

At some point we packed it in, Mark and me both with two girls in the rearview (one from the afternoon) and Michael with one.

Next day where else would we go but Monte Carlo. We all three loved the place and still can't understand how 4 x4 gets played up and MC gets dissed. Anyhow to each his own I guess.

We arrived about 4 this time and the lineup was great with the same girls and a few new. Prob 3-5 guys at that point and 12 girls. I can't recall who Mark took, but I took an amazingly slim and quite tall morena with remarkable bee cups. I love morenas and it was a steady diet for me. She was great, tho the details are blurry at this point. Same BBBJ arrangement prior.

Oh and we found a petite spinner for Michael. Tiny little thing with A cup chest and a beautiful face. If you like tiny spinners and I mean school girl petite goddamn this girl was all that. He reported an amazing time in the room, including sharing a joint she provided. Quite the little sweetheart!

We decided to take a break for dinner and had a massive seaside dinner with more picanha and shrimp than we could eat. Excellent and a ton of food. From here Michael bailed; but Mark and I went for round two (and three it turns out! This time I took his girl from earlier and she was everything he raved about.

Besides a great in room experience this girl is fun in the club. Hand straying up to my balls and a little nice stroking for a long time. Even a little shaft brush as I was hard as a rock looking at all the hotties across the room and getting stroked at the same time.

Beautiful girl, long wavy hair, lots of doe eyes in BJ, ass play with an ocean of saliva she generated during sloppy BJ. That girl luvs to suck cock. She musta gone at it 30 minutes. (I got an hour based on Marks recommendation)! And she was sooooo into it and the sex that followed. You cannot fake that shit. She would ride cowgirl like her life depended on it and could cascade her Os like a very few girls can. Just makes you her boy toy. Not that I'm complaining.

Mark took a slim girl who seemed real fun in the club but was a bit pro in the room. Only really disappointing experience of the trip and even that was pretty good.

So after finishing our girls, we come back to the bar for a final drink. Now I thought I was the horn dog, but Mark sees his girl the love of his life that I had earlier and he says he wants to go again. She sits between us and works us both up a little and off they go.

So here I am at maybe midnight all by myself waiting, when who would show up but Michael's little spinner. I know she's a party girl because she smoked that joint with Michael in the room. So I call her over. Wowzers. If you like super petite she's your gal. We make out and she is a superb kisser which I love, esp since I've only had one great kisser this trip. Confirm BBBJ and off we go.

Fuck. This little girl (23 actually) fucks like an animal. Like serious animal passion throughout absolutely no faking this animal aggression. Like in Cowgirl she literally has me pinned down and is grinding and shaking and sweating. It's really hard for her to get there, but I keep my boy toy pushed up hard and deep as she grinds and she eventually climaxes and literally collapses a sweaty spent mess. But with a big smile. Kkkkkk.

Nice sex and a lot of it in mish and doggie as well. Believe we finished it out with her sucking my balls while I jack off. This is my only sure fire closer after 9 girls in 5 dayssloppy ball work and shaft in hand. And bam we get it done! What a sweetheart.

Mark and I grab a final nightcap at the club to wind down. My little spinner comes back eventually and sees me across the club, walks over, and plants an affectionate kiss on me. Nice way to end the night! Totally spent after five girls in two days at Monte Carlo. Couldn't recommend more.

Summary of the Clubs: Unimpressed (understatement) by 4 x4. Solarium has nice facilities and I could surely find someone doable; but not sure all three of us could simultaneously. Monte Carlo was awesome despite the low girl count. To be fair Michael and I shared two different girls. And Mark and I shared one. So there are def some that are more appealing than others. But just a great solid lineup from top to bottom. And great in room performance as well.

Please note, also if you don't spend time at MC you could come in at a lull and draw the wrong conclusion. At 10 PM Sat night when I came back from the room, all the guys had taken girls and there were just three girls left in the corner. That's it. So if you came in right then it doesn't represent the usual state. Spend a bit of time to get the real vibe because it filled back up later.

Pro tip for Monte Carlo: put your phone in your robe pocket. It's allowed in the club (some don't) and I snagged both girls numbers the last night. Tho we couldn't quite hookup because I found an amazing seeking girl the next day (see separate report).

P.S.: I also checked out Dolce Vita and Kalabria after this. Ouch. At midnight on a Saturday there was not a single person in Dolce Vita. Nice looking club. But no guys no girls. No humans. Wtf? On Sat at midnight? I left. Walked around to Kalbria and there were three fat chicks in bikinis outside the door and I just walked on past.The most important thing is you and your buddies found what you were looking for at Monte Carlo. A couple things about Monte Carlo. I have found attractive girls there. The selection is generally small and it's pricier than 4 x4. There's also a common observation that Monte Carlo (and Centaurus) feature slim Euro-style girls who tourists generally favor. That could have also been at play.

I'm not going to spend too much time defending 4 x4, but 10:00 on a Friday is probably the worst time to go. I believe I mentioned to you that you should get there around 5 pm.

In closing, I'm glad you enjoyed yourselves in Rio. I am curious how you found the Monte Carlo girls relative to the girls at the SP boates.

Steve 9696
03-13-23, 22:05
Posted in Seeking thread but reproduced here for your convenience. This was after all the Monte Carlo awesomeness. But since it was Sunday needed an alternative. Actually tiny spinner came thru at last minute but I'the already locked up this Seeking girl and she was on her way.

Normally I don't do Seeking in cities with a vibrant club scene. And given that we found Monte Carlo to be epic (see below) I wouldn't have done Seeking. BUT, since most everything in Rio is closed on Sunday I thought I'the poke around. I had some leads from a few weeks back but also started poking new girls at dinner Saturday night.

I actually had several girls interested but one slim 9. 5 hottie caught my attention and we quickly planned a date. I was a little concerned it was a scam because almost too good to be true and had my radar up till the last minute. She asked $100 USD which is maybe at market for a quality hottie in Rio but IMO a bargain for this girl.

We had a bit of difficulty with the restaurant as I had picked one and she was on her way (Uber) only to find it closed at 7 and our date was for 8. Damn! Fortunately I found an amazing place nearby. It's called Pergula and it's inside the ritzy Copacabana Palace hotel. Amazing luxe vibe and food was excellent.

She was 10 minutes late early for a Brasileira and we met in the lobby of the hotel. Wow. Exactly like her pictures which were stunning. She was wearing a tight black dress with lots of cutouts. Really sexy without being slutty. And cascades of wavy black hair down to her ass. Just perfection.

Air kisses and off we go to the restaurant. You can tell by her vivacious vibe that she is both thrilled with me and with the restaurant choice. I think we both know this will be epic from minute one.

We shared an excellent bottle of Chardonnay during dinner and had awesome chat. She speaks very little English but my dinner table Porto is quite good so long as we don't steer too far afield and she speaks slowly which she did. So we had no trouble understanding each other, the conversation flowed, and we laughed a lot.

It's still early when we finish dinner, maybe 9:15 or so so I want to extend things a bit rather than just go to the room. So we grab an Uber. In the car she holds my hand and then places it between both of hers on her lap. OK no question this is an affectionate girl and it's on!

We bounce to a rooftop bar near my hotel but it seems closed for renovations. So instead we walk to my place which also has a rooftop bar tho of modest size.

We go thru the revolving door and just blow past reception, no questions asked and head up to the rooftop. In the elevator she pulls me close and we DFK for most of the ride. I love this girl!

We have some drinks at the top and the view is epic even at night. They light up Copacabana beach at night and there are still couples and familys swimming or playing futbol. A little cuddling at the rail and another shared kiss.

At the rail I start softly massaging her neck with my right hand. She loves this. In fact she takes my other hand and puts it on her arm showing me she has goosebumps! I tell her I am happy to give her a massage. At ten the bar closes and this pushes us to the room not that I mind at this point. We both take our drinks with.

In the room, lovely DFK and when I go pee I return to find her only in her thong. She says "you promised me a massage" and that I did. Still in my shirt I lose my pants and socks so I can mount her back in my briefs. And what a back!

I straddle her amazing ass small for a Brasileira she is rail thin but with an amazing shape and the perfect meaty feel and start a quality legit massage. I give my GF at home massage all the time and I'm pretty good. She is cooing and moaning. I start a bit of grinding tempo with my hips and soon my cock is hard against her ass / pussy as I massage in time with the grind. She likes this and is definitively growing horny!

After a good bit of this I think let's get this party started and rise to my feet beside the bed. She takes the cue and comes and unbuttons my shirt and gets on her knees on the floor. I love that submissiveness!

Off come the briefs and she takes my cock in her mouth briefly. Then takes a pause to gather that mane of hers. She collects her copious wavy hair in a ponytail with both hands and then hands it to me to keep it orderly and control the action at the same time. Nice and submissive again! She gives a solid BBBJ with plenty of BLS though I have to slow her down several times.

After some great BJ get her up and push her on her back on the bed. I start with her tits which are man made but look really great on her and feel darn good for falsies.

I kiss and lick my way down with a little giggle when I hit ticklish spots but eventually reach the target.

She has quite meaty lips for a Brasileira and I have to pull back some flesh to get her clit more exposed. She's wet from the getgo so I slip a finger inside. Nice and sloppy I do some great gspot and clit work. She never has a crashing O, but I get a bit of push out a couple times that means I'm on the right track.

Eventually it's sexo time and we do it in all positions. I am quite spent after 9 girls in five days and never threaten to blow my stack no matter how good it is. She def fucks me hard in doggie and cowgirl. And I fuck her hard in mish. We even do prone bone with a couple pillows under her belly and her legs together. Feels great. We go quite some time but I know I am not going to blow in camasinha at this point and move to more BBBJ. Eventually I put her on balls and me on handjob and I drop a pretty earthshaking load on my tummy.

After that it's kiss and cuddle and she declines to spend the night but says she had a great time. She says she is sad she just met me and I have to leave. As am I. To be honest tho with a GF at home I prefer the club scene when traveling and so I am glad I didn't forfeit Monte Carlo (see below) for her.

I hope maybe I can travel her somewhere because she's gorgeous and a ton of fun. Will have to see. Damn 12 hours earlier I was just browsing Seeking. And then suddenly I have the perfect date with a 9. 5. WTF? I love my life and Seeking rules!

Stinky Squid
03-14-23, 00:08
Thank you so much for the wonderful write-up. I am in SP later this week and would love to meet Leticia. I tried to message via Twitter but it didn't go through. One of the tweets from February mentioned a break and possible return in March. Is she actually back? I would appreciate any tips for getting in touch with her if she is indeed back. TIA.I can send by PM, but it does look like she's off for a moment. Her WhatsApp status says that she's off until (later in) March due to a surgery to improve her body, bolt on tits that is. I didn't think she needed that. If your PM was available I would send you her number. But she will certainly be back.

Speaking of tits, there is a chick in Rio who advertizes as "Brenda" on photoacompanhante, "deusa the lapa que transa gostoso". She has remarkable natural tits, but that's about all she has going for her. Her face is a bit strange in my book, but the worst was her attitude. She was nice, but seemed she was insecure and extremely limited and technical. Constantly asked if I liked this and that and her tits, constantly told me about her clients who like this and that and are from such and such country. And the worst is when something felt good she would stop. And she got distracted by her phone, and you couldn't grab her, she would complain that it hurts, and when it came to fuck she kept herself at a distance, it was very strange. I just packed up and went off, hoping to get another ride with the Luana Rabbit chick who would at least suck good, but then one of you guys must have taken her and she wasn't available. See, this is why I don't like to give indications while I am still in the area.

Priint
03-14-23, 02:45
I can send by PM, but it does look like she's off for a moment. Her WhatsApp status says that she's off until (later in) March due to a surgery to improve her body, bolt on tits that is. I didn't think she needed that. If your PM was available I would send you her number. But she will certainly be back.
Thank you so much for the offer to PM but sorry that I don't have that option. Not sure if there is another way but it sounds like I am going to miss her as I am there only on 17th and part of 18th.

Such a bummer but if there are any other face fuck recommendations in SP or RJ I'll really appreciate that. Thanks again.

Steve 9696
03-14-23, 04:54
The most important thing is you and your buddies found what you were looking for at Monte Carlo.

In closing, I'm glad you enjoyed yourselves in Rio. I am curious how you found the Monte Carlo girls relative to the girls at the SP boates.

Well that is a good and relevant question. It's surprising but I would rank all five if my Monte Carlo girls ahead of my 2 Scandalo and 2 Casarao girls. On balance the performances were better as well. But def all five prettier than my Scandalo and Casarao girls. Surprising I know! And for completeness my Seeking girl was prettier than 8 other girls, with only one Monte Carlo girl exceeding her on optics. Both 9.5 no lie, with the Monte Carlo girl about as close to a ten as I allow.

The Critic
03-14-23, 05:49
I have to say that I am going to strongly disagree with the general wisdom of the forum on best clubs in Rio. We were not impressed with the most recommended clubs here, but rather found a gem that doesn't get much love here. Maybe we just got lucky. A caveat is that I love Brasileiras and the amazing Brasileira bunda, but prefer a slim waist vs a thick girl where possible. So this of course colors my thinking.

First stop was Monte Carlo on a Friday afternoon because it was close by. I warned my buddy (who is kinda new to this) to not expect much, given what I'the read on the forum, but we were in for a nice surprise. As a bonus, Monte Carlo also had an English speaking receptionist and a clear pricing card that explains the options.
Good, detailed report! Just goes to show that any place can be a difference maker at any given time. MC doesn't get much love on the forum but (hopefully) they have upgraded the talent, or you just got in on some exceptional days.


Then takes a pause to gather that mane of hers. She collects her copious wavy hair in a ponytail with both hands and then hands it to me to keep it orderly and control the action at the same time. Nice and submissive again!

Good report! I like it when they gather their hair like that as they prepare for the "work out" LOL!!
Looks like SA worked out for you.

Axel Heyst
03-14-23, 14:49
Having spent time in So Paulo at both Scandallo and Casarao (see the So Paulo thread for full report) I then hit Rio. I had not been there previously.

I have to say that I am going to strongly disagree with the general wisdom of the forum on best clubs in Rio. We were not impressed with the most recommended clubs here, but rather found a gem that doesn't get much love here. Maybe we just got lucky. A caveat is that I love Brasileiras and the amazing Brasileira bunda, but prefer a slim waist vs a thick girl where possible. So this of course colors my thinking.

First stop was Monte Carlo on a Friday afternoon

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Now here is the amazing part. ALL ten of these girls are pretty. 8 of the 10 are slim and pretty and there are some amazing looking girls by my standards. I'the say most girls were 8's a few 6-7 and a couple 9's or more. This was a stunningly good lineup (for my and my buddies taste) and that was our experience at Monte Carlo throughout the weekend.

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OK so full circle, we head back to Monte Carlo. I guess it mighta been midnight by now? Great lineup again. Mostly the same girls. But a lot more guys. The free girls make a lineup. This time we stall long enough and drink and the girls one by one drop from the lineup. So we are able to settle in and relax a bit.

Eventually me and Mark wave girls over. Imo marks is a bit older and not the prettiest maybe a six but he is happy and mine is a beautiful petite firecracker with shoulder length curly / wavy hair. Both girls are very friendly with hand on thigh and a bit of sexy touching to get things going in the bar. Being a bit smarter this time, I confirm "chupa sem camisinha"(BBBJ) with both girls, who agree enthusiastically and off we go.
Wow! What a great headline grabbing report. MC is back and is loaded with attractive girls! Thanks for posting. And I will say this, if what you are saying about MC is true and I have no reason to doubt you, then you really are reporting some groundbreaking news because I went to Monte Carlo 2 x in October 2021. My 1st & last time. KKK. I went there around 6:30 PM. There were 6 girls milling around. All of them overweight and unattractive. One other customer. I hung out for approximately 20 minutes until I couldn't take any more waiting and I left thinking I will never come back to this joint. But now after reading your report I will have to go back and see with my own eyes what is going on.


I would rank all five if my Monte Carlo girls ahead of my 2 Scandalo and 2 Casarao girls. On balance the performances were better as well. But def all five prettier than my Scandalo and Casarao girls. Surprising I know! And for completeness my Seeking girl was prettier than 8 other girls, with only one Monte Carlo girl exceeding her on optics. Both 9.5 no lie, with the Monte Carlo girl about as close to a ten as I allow.Yeah, pretty surprising Steve. I am glad you had a great time. I always felt that there were a few Solarium girls that could cut it in Scandallo. You know; sexy, friendly Tier 2 type girls, but I never saw a Tier 1 Scandallo type (model quality) girl in any RJ Terma. Never! I have done a few Barra VIP Tier 1 model quality girls, however, but I never tried my hand with SA. Meanwhile, you report great success with those girls. I will have to do some studying. As for 4 x 4 quality: I never thought its girls were as attractive on average as Solarium girls. Like you, I prefer slim, natural looking girls with pretty faces and without implants or surgical procedures. But I always liked 4 x 4 for its bawdy, bordello party like atmosphere and I was always able to find a fairly nice-looking girl, if not a stunner, there.

So Steve, what's the bottom line: are you thinking of returning to RJ or are you heading back to SP on your next trip south?

WyattEarp
03-14-23, 15:40
Well that is a good and relevant question. It's surprising but I would rank all five if my Monte Carlo girls ahead of my 2 Scandalo and 2 Casarao girls. On balance the performances were better as well. But def all five prettier than my Scandalo and Casarao girls. Surprising I know! And for completeness my Seeking girl was prettier than 8 other girls, with only one Monte Carlo girl exceeding her on optics. Both 9.5 no lie, with the Monte Carlo girl about as close to a ten as I allow.That is surprising. I have found hot girls and good experiences at Monte Carlo. Sometimes MC can have a small selection and I find it to be kind of a laid-back place. If one wants to just chill before and after sex, it's perfect. As far as convenience, you can't beat its Copacabana location.

As far as the performance of termas girls, I don't know what the managements tell them or how they train them. Perhaps I don't want to know. So for the most part, termas girls know how to do their jobs well.

Steve 9696
03-14-23, 19:07
That is surprising. I have found hot girls and good experiences at Monte Carlo. Sometimes MC can have a small selection and I find it to be kind of a laid-back place. If one wants to just chill before and after sex, it's perfect. As far as convenience, you can't beat its Copacabana location.

As far as the performance of termas girls, I don't know what the managements tell them or how they train them. Perhaps I don't want to know. So for the most part, termas girls know how to do their jobs well.Yes I hope this groundbreaking news helps someone. In the discussion here I think we have hit upon what's up. It's new fresh girls. I asked at least theee of my girls how long they worked there and two were two months and one was two weeks. And it seemed right based on their fresh faced enthusiasm. Seemed like they wanted to be there!

I would def recommend a surprising time to go as well. We went 3:15 on a Friday. They open at 3. They must have a rule about the girls have to be there. Because there were ten hotties and only us two.

MarkTwain2001
03-14-23, 20:02
Experienced monger looking for accommodations in RIO that are perhaps not only guest friendly but also guest providing? Are there in hotels near the water in the general or surrounding area that are kept stocked with fresh participants and have lodging available.

Stinky Squid
03-14-23, 21:21
Not that it really needs to be said for the hundred's time, but need to flush my heart out a little.

My exuberant message was not based on, but certainly motivated by the fact that I had two really nice experiences where something seemed to have clicked. The one girl I already suspected was a dead-beat in the end because while she was all nice and saying she adored me, she ended up slow responding to messages. This of course is a bad sign. The other one who was soooooo sweet with me and seemed to initially light up by my invitation to come with me (and out of this abusive contract arrangement in that establishment) she ultimately flaked. It is quite a bummer if you find out these girls seem to prefer this job even if it doesn't even pay well, instead of taking a leap. It kind of nags on me. But then, don't try to figure them out I guess, or once a working girl always a working girl anyway, and who wants to get all that unknown baggage with two children and all. It's just, sweet girl was what I would consider a 10 by appearance, and so, it would have been nice. First she responded well and fast. But said she couldn't leave until her 12 days are over, or else her amiga who vouched for her would be kicked out too. Then I said, we'll figure something out, I just don't want to wait 12 days, my time is running short here anyway. To which she said she'd have to talk to said amiga. Then who knows what they figured out, but she didn't reply to me any more after that. Maybe that amiga told her to forget me. The high of having 2 prospects to juggle then falling down to zero in one day, that's a bit heart-wrecking.

But then, it's nothing really, because I didn't feel bad before I met them, so why should I feel bad now? It's just amazing how apparently shitty jobs girls do just to avoid a real job, and even if offered a way out, they prefer staying in this. The differences in fees that girls command is also staggering. From one Pocahontas Carioca who wants 1000 reais for an hour, to some Leticia Bittencourt who wants 500, to the ones who are "employed" in a house and get between 50 to 100 for the hour (while we pay double that). There really is no difference in appearance rating, and possibly none in performance, it all depends on the girl's attitude and the chemistry you have with her. But once you want to take her out, then it's another leap still. Some are not satisfied with the same amount they would get in their "regular job", and others don't even want to leave that job that pays so meager. Some are worried to be kicked out of a very bad deal even. Go figure.

Stinky Squid
03-14-23, 21:42
Thank you so much for the offer to PM but sorry that I don't have that option. Not sure if there is another way but it sounds like I am going to miss her as I am there only on 17th and part of 18th.

Such a bummer but if there are any other face fuck recommendations in SP or RJ I'll really appreciate that. Thanks again.Yes, when she is back you will know, doesn't matter if I send you her number now.

For our special delicacies that you and I seem to be interested in, I can give you some options right now:

This one Nadja Martinez (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/morena-tatuada-e-com-piercings-pronta-pra-te-enlouquecer-id-dgnwb) I have not been with her, but I am certain she is genuine and I bet 90% that the difference to pictures will not be more than for Leticia Amorim.

Then there is Paola Queroz (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/carioca-tatuada-da-bucetinha-rosa-e-garganta-profunda-id-mg36t) who I have been with, and first didn't want to share because of some stupid attachment, but now I do, since you are short on time.

Please do try this Lais Herrera to see if she is real and do let me know. (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/namoradinha-carioca-safada-com-local-bem-seguro-id-cvnkr), and this EmyCandy too (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfetinha-curitibana-disponivel-para-encontro-com-local-id-728bd). I cannot say if they are real, but I think it is worth trying.

If you search, you will also find Isis (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/garganta-profunda-o-oral-que-voce-so-ve-em-filme-porno-id-uacnk), she is famous and hard to schedule, but I think her performance sucks, she wants to stay in control the whole time, like a surgeon she does it her way, and don't dare to mess up her hair, takes the fun out of all of it.

In RJ there is Nanda (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/centro/especialista-em-facefuck-completinha-e-sem-frecuras-id-r9nnw) who I have been in contact with, but just don't get overly excited about because she isn't my type. But I believe she is real. Apart from that, I think the openly advertised but true options are less in RJ.

The Cane
03-14-23, 22:12
Not that it really needs to be said for the hundred's time, but need to flush my heart out a little. It's just amazing how apparently shitty jobs girls do just to avoid a real job, and even if offered a way out, they prefer staying in this.You can't make a housewife out of a hoor!

Axel Heyst
03-14-23, 22:53
Not that it really needs to be said for the hundred's time, but need to flush my heart out a little.

My exuberant message was not based on, but certainly motivated by the fact that I had two really nice experiences where something seemed to have clicked. The one girl I already suspected was a dead-beat in the end because while she was all nice and saying she adored me, she ended up slow responding to messages. This of course is a bad sign. The other one who was soooooo sweet with me and seemed to initially light up by my invitation to come with me (and out of this abusive contract arrangement in that establishment) she ultimately flaked. It is quite a bummer if you find out these girls seem to prefer this job even if it doesn't even pay well, instead of taking a leap. It kind of nags on me. But then, don't try to figure them out I guess, or once a working girl always a working girl anyway, and who wants to get all that unknown baggage with two children and all. It's just, sweet girl was what I would consider a 10 by appearance, and so, it would have been nice. First she responded well and fast. But said she couldn't leave until her 12 days are over, or else her amiga who vouched for her would be kicked out too. Then I said, we'll figure something out, I just don't want to wait 12 days, my time is running short here anyway. To which she said she'd have to talk to said amiga. Then who knows what they figured out, but she didn't reply to me any more after that. Maybe that amiga told her to forget me. The high of having 2 prospects to juggle then falling down to zero in one day, that's a bit heart-wrecking.

But then, it's nothing really, because I didn't feel bad before I met them, so why should I feel bad now? It's just amazing how apparently shitty jobs girls do just to avoid a real job, and even if offered a way out, they prefer staying in this. The differences in fees that girls command is also staggering. From one Pocahontas Carioca who wants 1000 reais for an hour, to some Leticia Bittencourt who wants 500, to the ones who are "employed" in a house and get between 50 to 100 for the hour (while we pay double that). There really is no difference in appearance rating, and possibly none in performance, it all depends on the girl's attitude and the chemistry you have with her. But once you want to take her out, then it's another leap still. Some are not satisfied with the same amount they would get in their "regular job", and others don't even want to leave that job that pays so meager. Some are worried to be kicked out of a very bad deal even. Go figure.Well, SS, I think you need to take your own advice and step back a little. I have fallen for working girls and they me in their own way. I still have an ongoing 12 year "friendship" with a former Baccara Go Go girl even though I have not seen her since June 2019. Currently I am kind of gaga over Valerie, my super sweet Scandallo spinner. It is nice when this sort of thing happens and it happens frequently with Brazilian working girls. Which is the main reason I keep flying back here. It is the ultimate form of GFE, and the sex is out of this world while it lasts. But sadly, nothing lasts forever. So, my main advice is GO SLOW! Enjoy what you have, and never forget what the fuck brought the two of you together in the 1st place. It was attractive girl and great sex in exchange for real money. And as long as the sex is really good you don't have much to complain about, but when the sex no longer feels as great, it is time to move on without regret.

But some guys are inherently lonely or romantically inclined and they want to settle down into an actual, for real, monogamous relationship with a working girl. It is a crazy idea because it is such a long shot with a success rate of less than 1% five years down the road. Still, there seems to be a never-ending line of guys who think their girl IS DIFFERENT, this is real, and "love" will conquer all. 555/ KKK. The truth, however, is no, she's not different from other working girls, she is just good at what she does, or yes, quite possibly you and her clicked a little bit. But it would be seriously crazy to assume any more than that. So, if you meet a girl and the two of you seem to connect and the sex is great, way to go. You hit the jackpot. But don't take it any more seriously than that or you will ruin a pleasurable relationship before its time.

If it helps, think of working girls as stray cats. You have no idea of where they have been or what they have gone through. Life can be really hard and it leaves its toll on people. It is one thing to leave some food out in a bowl for a feral stray cat in your neighborhood. The stray will stick around your property and he or she will kill rodents and other pests for you. But you don't want to take one of these feral stray cats into your house. They will destroy your home. They are not domesticated pets. It is the same idea with a working girls that you are crazy about and who like you. Everything can be amazing / fantastic and GFE, but it is not real, she is not really your girlfriend. So have a great time. Always treat your girls nice and with respect, but never forget the underlying reality of the situation unless you want to get hurt emotionally and / or financially.

In my case, I have a GFE thing with my Valerie and I think she is a wonderful girl. I first met her in October 2021 and I find it interesting to think back how our relationship grew over time. On my last visit to SP, I averaged 3 nights a week with her. It was always great. I never got bored. But, when I was not with Valerie, I was always out looking for new girls as well as inviting some old favorites over. Variety is a very important element of successful punting. A punter cannot afford to get hung up on any one girl no matter how wonderful she is. If your emotions have the power to get the better of you, then perhaps you should employ the 3-night rule: Never go out with a girl more than xxx nights per trip. Up to you.

A. H.

Stinky Squid
03-14-23, 23:04
Adding to my last message. If you prefer that BBBJ especially if it is a bit more, shall we say, involved, you might find a risk of catching unspecific infection. I probably mentioned this already somewhere. But I want to tell you an almost fool-proof and sure-fire way to attack any pathogen early on in ways they cannot resist. I would trust this method even against gonorrhea, which is, as we know, the worst that could happen in its form of multi-resistant super-bug.

Here is what you do: have drunk or drink a lot so you can pee a lot. But do buy yourself a bottle of povidone iodine, the brown solution. This is the real stuff that surgeons use for disinfection of anything on the patient before cutting or shoving anything big inside. You wash your dick around and then you actually squirt this stuff up your pipe. Do it early and if you sense any burning, do it often. Like, after every time you pee you wash your glans and you squirt this stuff in by holding up the little man and with the nozzle of the bottle down, you stick it into the mouth of the urethra and you squeeze. Make sure you hold your little man on the side, so as not to squeeze your urethra shut. This stuff should NOT burn. If it burns, it means you have something. This means you really need to do this treatment. If you do it on the same day (ideally as soon as you come back to your room after the deed was done) then you should never have to worry again.

This also works on viruses, but I would not test it on myself with HIV nor HPV nor HSV, because I do not want to take that risk. But I am confident that in the off chance there was any transmission by BBBJ, unlikely as it is, you would possibly reduce your risk of that catching on by 50%. My estimate. 50% isn't much, but it's something. And it factors my complete uncertainty, so it could actually be better. I know it works against viruses, I just don't know how ultimately effective it is.

Chica Chaser
03-15-23, 01:14
...The high of having 2 prospects to juggle then falling down to zero in one day, that's a bit heart-wrecking...I'm reminded of an experience I had a while ago in Medellin. I took a girl for an hour and it was so off-the-scale fantastic I extended to two, and then to three. She ticked every box especially with her earnest and open personality. Three days in the business she had recently been dumped by her novio. Next day I figured I'd play it cool; not wanting to see her the day after so that she didn't know she had me hooked. Instead I messaged her and asked if she was working the next day. Her reply was short but with a word I didn't exactly recognize. She replied, "Renuncie a mi trabajo," Renuncie? Renounce? Renounced? What! Say it isn't so! It was. That whole day and the next I was in a deep funk. It's like you discover the best drug ever and as quick as you discover it it's yanked away. Sigh.

Chica Chaser
03-15-23, 01:51
Adding to my last message. If you prefer that BBBJ especially if it is a bit more, shall we say, involved, you might find a risk of catching unspecific infection...A couple of years ago I was all set to hit a casa when I noticed two red spots on the head of my little friend. I was in Colombia and paid cash to see a general practitioner. He figured it was herpes and was quite casual in saying it. Apparently a high percentage of the population has it. He prescribed a cream and some pills and off I went.

Weeks passed and things weren't improving so he sent me to a lab with a laundry list of the usual suspects to check for. Results showed it was syphilis. Yikes! At that moment I felt like a death sentence had been handed to me. Turns out though that, if given a choice between catching herpes and syphilis, choose syphilis. The first is a virus and can't be cured, only managed; the second is a bacteria and can be eradicated. If you don't catch it early it can have very dire consequences, and you can always get it again, but it's not the end of your world when detected early on.

That whole experience taught me to not go running to a doctor, who may or may not be very competent, at the first sign of a possible STD. In Colombia, and no doubt elsewhere, one can just go to a lab and order the tests without a doctor's say so. All totaled it's less than a hundred bucks at the cheaper clinics. Then, once you know what you've got, you can go to a pharmacy to buy the treatment. Chances are you won't need to waste money and time with a doctor. Do what you want though.

That doctor, who certainly seemed nice, wasted my money prescribing for herpes and wasted weeks of tedious bandage and cream treatment. He should have sent me to a lab right away and then prescribed.

Two final things:

At the time I caught syphilis I'd likely been with nearly 500 different women since 2005 - the year I started Pay 2 Play hobbying. It took sixteen years for me to catch anything. And I LOVE BBBJs. So it seems to me that the risk of STD transmission is overstated. Or I was lucky. Who knows.

Lastly, if you too get dots on your friend, fear not. Despite it going through a hideous looking phase wherein there's depth to the wound, somehow, miraculously, it'll heal and look normal after a month or two. For me it was closer to four months of involuntary celibacy due to the above mentioned misdiagnosis. I was in my first year of retirement then though so, thankfully, it didn't cost me precious vacation time.

Stinky Squid
03-15-23, 21:24
I'm reminded of an experience I had a while ago in Medellin. I took a girl for an hour and it was so off-the-scale fantastic I extended to two, and then to three. She ticked every box especially with her earnest and open personality. Three days in the business she had recently been dumped by her novio. Next day I figured I'd play it cool; not wanting to see her the day after so that she didn't know she had me hooked. Instead I messaged her and asked if she was working the next day. Her reply was short but with a word I didn't exactly recognize. She replied, "Renuncie a mi trabajo," Renuncie? Renounce? Renounced? What! Say it isn't so! It was. That whole day and the next I was in a deep funk. It's like you discover the best drug ever and as quick as you discover it it's yanked away. Sigh.Yes, she did quit. That's what she told you. This is quite a good sign of her. You should have probably connected and taken her out. This is why I am so responsive to give them a hand if I see she is new and she is sweet. In my case my sweet princess did NOT renounce the job, and that drove me crazy. Then I think she got spoiled, damaged, probably by her friend, or picked up by someone else (but still working). I am going to quit messaging but I will show up on Monday in person. I should have insisted harder immediately when we still had this wave of good feelings in each other. I allowed her to slip away. I did that because I was riding the high horse, thinking how I would juggle this, and not wanting to look desperate. But it's not about desperation, it is about urgency. She was so sweet and responsive. And then she slipped away because it got to complicated. I think there is something about the business that really messes up the minds of these chicks. After a few days they turn sour.

Like my gangster murdering chick in Bogota. I met her on her first or second day on the job. She was so weird, timid, but sweet, and wanted me to take her with me. I just didn't do it because she had just told me that the gangsters of Bogota are after her because she killed one of theirs. And I really didn't want to get into the mix of that. I literally watched my back when I walked back to my hotel (Chapinero). Few days later the girl who she shared the apartment contacted me offering her services to me. I went, thank you, not my type, but do you have her contact? Yes she does, but would only sell it to me. I said no need to sell, just pass my number to her. No go. And besides she was such a liar. Messed up.

Stinky Squid
03-15-23, 21:45
A couple of years ago I was all set to hit a casa when I noticed two red spots on the head of my little friend ... general practitioner ... figured it was herpes ... prescribed a cream and some pills and off I went.I suppose you meant it did not help? I think it was acyclovir he gave you.

I had something in Pattaya which was a tingling sensation. And the herpes idea came up. A test was taken, but I immediately proceeded to buy myself valacyclovir, and took it as a post-exposure prophylaxis. It probably was nothing, but better full blast on it than be sorry afterwards, because I too will prefer syphilis over HSV, HPV, and gonorrhea, syphilis is easy to treat with good old penicillin, no resistance. Syphilis was the big deal before the penicillin era, with long term progressive paralysis, etc.

Once I had an anal penetration with an at risk provider, this was sort of by accident, and not much. But after a day of worrying, I got myself the tri-valent post exposure prophylaxis and took that for a month. I'm not going to let anything burn.

I will say that I might be "sensitive" but I have had several minor infections from BBBJ. In fact, my very first time in Brazil, I had Larissa from Agencia StarCris (oh man, how I miss the agencias in Rio!) and she sucked me off. Then soon thereafter I began having some symptoms I couldn't really pinpoint. This was giving me some problems when I was with my fatal girlfriend. Back home in America after a week or two I went to a Urologist and he found a prostatitis. I didn't connect the dots at first, but I doubt it was just coincidence. I had it several times after major BBBJ events (not the quick and lame ones, but the more involved ones.) Burning sensation, fever (up to a week, despite antibiotics), tenderness in the little dude and the base. What is going on here is that it doesn't have to be a dedicated famous STD, it can just be chlamydia, rickettsia, or other bugs from the mouth.

Since I use my povidone iodine, I nib every onset of strangeness right in the butt. I use this always and since then have not gotten anything. BTW, since I like to kiss them when they are slobbery, there is the risk of getting a tonsillitis too. Been there, done that. The trick here is Lysterine (or the like) mouthwash, gargle, every few hours.

Stinky Squid
03-15-23, 21:55
Well, SS, I think you need to take your own advice and step back a little. I have fallen for working girls and they me in their own way. ... If your emotions have the power to get the better of you, then perhaps you should employ the 3-night rule: Never go out with a girl more than xxx nights per trip. Up to you.Yes, all good points. Thanks.

Priint
03-16-23, 01:04
Yes, when she is back you will know, doesn't matter if I send you her number now.

For our special delicacies that you and I seem to be interested in, I can give you some options right now:

This one Nadja Martinez (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/morena-tatuada-e-com-piercings-pronta-pra-te-enlouquecer-id-dgnwb) I have not been with her, but I am certain she is genuine and I bet 90% that the difference to pictures will not be more than for Leticia Amorim.

Then there is Paola Queroz (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/carioca-tatuada-da-bucetinha-rosa-e-garganta-profunda-id-mg36t) who I have been with, and first didn't want to share because of some stupid attachment, but now I do, since you are short on time.

Please do try this Lais Herrera to see if she is real and do let me know. (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/namoradinha-carioca-safada-com-local-bem-seguro-id-cvnkr), and this EmyCandy too (https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/ninfetinha-curitibana-disponivel-para-encontro-com-local-id-728bd). I cannot say if they are real, but I think it is worth trying..Thank you so much for this treasure trove of information!! I looked up both Isis and Nadja, but both seem unavailable at this time. I will keep trying though. Will be sure to report back if I am lucky (or not).

The Critic
03-16-23, 01:20
Well, SS, I think you need to take your own advice and step back a little. I have fallen for working girls and they me in their own way. I still have an ongoing 12 year "friendship" with a former Baccara Go Go girl even though I have not seen her since June 2019. Currently I am kind of gaga over Valerie, my super sweet Scandallo spinner. It is nice when this sort of thing happens and it happens frequently with Brazilian working girls. Which is the main reason I keep flying back here. It is the ultimate form of GFE, and the sex is out of this world while it lasts. But sadly, nothing lasts forever. So, my main advice is GO SLOW! Enjoy what you have, and never forget what the fuck brought the two of you together in the 1st place. It was attractive girl and great sex in exchange for real money. And as long as the sex is really good you don't have much to complain about, but when the sex no longer feels as great, it is time to move on without regret.

But some guys are inherently lonely or romantically inclined and they want to settle down into an actual, for real, monogamous relationship with a working girl. It is a crazy idea because it is such a long shot with a success rate of less than 1% five years down the road. Still, there seems to be a never-ending line of guys who think their girl IS DIFFERENT, this is real, and "love" will conquer all. 555/ KKK. The truth, however, is no, she's not different from other working girls, she is just good at what she does, or yes, quite possibly you and her clicked a little bit. But it would be seriously crazy to assume any more than that. So, if you meet a girl and the two of you seem to connect and the sex is great, way to go. You hit the jackpot. But don't take it any more seriously than that or you will ruin a pleasurable relationship before its time.

If it helps, think of working girls as stray cats. You have no idea of where they have been or what they have gone through. Life can be really hard and it leaves its toll on people. It is one thing to leave some food out in a bowl for a feral stray cat in your neighborhood. The stray will stick around your property and he or she will kill rodents and other pests for you. But you don't want to take one of these feral stray cats into your house. They will destroy your home. They are not domesticated pets. It is the same idea with a working girls that you are crazy about and who like you. Everything can be amazing / fantastic and GFE, but it is not real, she is not really your girlfriend. So have a great time. Always treat your girls nice and with respect, but never forget the underlying reality of the situation unless you want to get hurt emotionally and / or financially.

In my case, I have a GFE thing with my Valerie and I think she is a wonderful girl. I first met her in October 2021 and I find it interesting to think back how our relationship grew over time. On my last visit to SP, I averaged 3 nights a week with her. It was always great. I never got bored. But, when I was not with Valerie, I was always out looking for new girls as well as inviting some old favorites over. Variety is a very important element of successful punting. A punter cannot afford to get hung up on any one girl no matter how wonderful she is. If your emotions have the power to get the better of you, then perhaps you should employ the 3-night rule: Never go out with a girl more than xxx nights per trip. Up to you.

A. H.Well written, so many profound statements, good advice given, and sentiments shared. It's easy sometimes when everything clicks to fall in emotionally or to allow yourself to be a little vulnerable, just be realistic in your expectations and do periodic sanity checks.

Mr Enternational
03-16-23, 02:38
Well, SS, I think you need to take your own advice and step back a little. I have fallen for working girls and they me in their own way. I still have an ongoing 12 year "friendship" with a former Baccara Go Go girl even though I have not seen her since June 2019. Currently I am kind of gaga over Valerie, my super sweet Scandallo spinner.Like the old adage, "Guys come to Thailand to fuck normal chicks and date hookers." Why is it that you guys can not date normal chicks and have to fall for hookers? How do you even get your wires crossed like that?

Turgid
03-16-23, 14:52
There is no universal rule of nature that a man cannot have a successful relationship, even marriage, with a prostitute. There are many such. One of the most famous was Juan Peron's marriage to Maria Eva Duarte. Yes, the woman who became the First Lady of Argentina was a prostitute before she met Colonel Juan Peron on 22 January 1944 during a charity event. The rest is history. As Samantha Fox sang "Naughty Girls Need Love Too".

Axel Heyst
03-16-23, 16:17
There is no universal rule of nature that a man cannot have a successful relationship, even marriage, with a prostitute. There are many such. One of the most famous was Juan Peron's marriage to Maria Eva Duarte. Yes, the woman who became the First Lady of Argentina was a prostitute before she met Colonel Juan Peron on 22 January 1944 during a charity event. The rest is history. Yeah, the Peron's accomplished wonders for Argentina. The country has never been the same since.


Like the old adage, "Guys come to Thailand to fuck normal chicks and date hookers." Why is it that you guys can not date normal chicks and have to fall for hookers? How do you even get your wires crossed like that?Why? There are many reasons why certain men enter emotional relationships with their hookers. The main reason is loneliness combined with a certain degree of romanticism. In addition, it is really easy to start things up with a sexy, friendly working girl because initially there is no fear of rejection in asking a hooker out while some guys can't get past their fear of rejection to ask even a friendly little brown skinned 7/11 clerk out for a coffee. Then once they begin seeing a real nice hooker on a regular basis, and the sex is very good, they make the fundamental mistake of convincing themselves that what they are feeling for the girl and what she is feeling towards them is real and lasting. 555/ KKK. That the GFE relationship they are having is real and not monetarily driven and most importantly that their girl is different from all the others which allows these men to put on their white knight costume thinking they can "save" the girl and she will be eternally grateful. It is all BS, but these men believe it. This phenomenon is what I was referring to in my stray cat analogy from an earlier post.

Personally, I have had some long-lasting relationships with a few of my hooker friends. But I have never lost my head and believed I was in anything but a very friendly, sexually satisfying, financially driven relationship. I never sent money or rented an apartment for my girls to live in when I was not in town. I never invested in the family business. 555/ KKK. My long-term relationships usually ended for 2 reasons: 1) the sex ran its course and began to go downhill so I began to lose interest or 2) the girl became a little batty in her head for example asking me to marry her. It has been my experience that once a hooker friend asks for a marriage contract our relationship goes south fast and it is definitely past the time to end things.

Stinky Squid
03-16-23, 17:00
There is no universal rule of nature that a man cannot have a successful relationship, even marriage, with a prostitute. There are many such. One of the most famous was Juan Peron's marriage to Maria Eva Duarte. Yes, the woman who became the First Lady of Argentina was a prostitute before she met Colonel Juan Peron on 22 January 1944 during a charity event. The rest is history. As Samantha Fox sang "Naughty Girls Need Love Too".The superlative of this example is Empress Theodora, wife of Justinian the Great, of Constantinople, who, was despised by the contemporary historian Procopius of Caesarea.

Theodora, as soon as she arrived at the age of youth, and was now ready for the world, her mother put her on the stage. Forthwith, she became a courtesan, and such as the ancient Greeks used to call a common one, at that: for she was not a flute or harp player, nor was she even trained to dance, but only gave her youth to anyone she met, in utter abandonment. Her general favors included, of course, the actors in the theater; and in their productions she took part in the low comedy scenes. For she was very funny and a good mimic, and immediately became popular in this art. There was no shame in the girl, and no one ever saw her dismayed: no role was too scandalous for her to accept without a blush.

She was the kind of comedienne who delights the audience by letting herself be cuffed and slapped on the cheeks, and makes them guffaw by raising her skirts to reveal to the spectators those feminine secrets here and there which custom veils from the eyes of the opposite sex. With pretended laziness she mocked her lovers, and coquettishly adopting ever new ways of embracing, was able to keep in a constant turmoil the hearts of the sophisticated. And she did not wait to be asked by anyone she met, but on the contrary, with inviting jests and a comic flaunting of her skirts herself tempted all men who passed by, especially those who were adolescent.

On the field of pleasure she was never defeated. Often she would go picnicking with ten young men or more, in the flower of their strength and virility, and dallied with them all, the whole night through. When they wearied of the sport, she would approach their servants, perhaps thirty in number, and fight a duel with each of these; and even thus found no allayment of her craving. Once, visiting the house of an illustrious gentleman, they say she mounted the projecting corner of her dining couch, pulled up the front of her dress, without a blush, and thus carelessly showed her wantonness. And though she flung wide three gates to the ambassadors of Cupid, she lamented that nature had not similarly unlocked the straits of her bosom, that she might there have contrived a further welcome to his emissaries.

Frequently, she conceived, but as she employed every artifice immediately, a miscarriage was straightway effected. Often, even in the theater, in the sight of all the people, she removed her costume and stood nude in their midst, except for a girdle about the groin: not that she was abashed at revealing that, too, to the audience, but because there was a law against appearing altogether naked on the stage, without at least this much of a fig-leaf. Covered thus with a ribbon, she would sink down to the stage floor and recline on her back. Slaves to whom the duty was entrusted would then scatter grains of barley from above into the calyx of this passion flower, whence geese, trained for the purpose, would next pick the grains one by one with their bills and eat. When she rose, it was not with a blush, but she seemed rather to glory in the performance. For she was not only impudent herself, but endeavored to make everybody else as audacious. Often when she was alone with other actors, she would undress in their midst and arch her back provocatively, advertising like a peacock both to those who had experience of her and to those who had not yet had that privilege her trained suppleness.

Ref: https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/proc/shp/shp12.htm.

Emperor Justinian fell madly in love with her and married her. Not without attracting the ire of noblemen like Procopius. But he was the emperor. And it appears that Theodora was quite loyal to him, so much so that they together dealt with a massive uprising and even the plague which befell Justinian incapacitating him to the brink of death for a good amount of time, when Theodora was holding on to the court affairs and keeping those at bay who would have seized the opportunity to a coup d'etat. And she did not betray Justinian herself either.

Curious, isn't it?

Jake993
03-17-23, 01:16
Curious, isn't it?Yes SS, it is indeed curious. There are some WG's who possess a great many admirable qualities. Among them might be a keen sense of survival. I am sure that none of these girls wakes up at the dawn of puberty and says, "Hey, I think I'll be a hooker when I grow up". Have we not all encountered ladies in this trade who have escaped worse fates because they have been able to survive using their "God given" talents. After all, they are actresses to one degree or another. To quote a Russian friend of mine, "these hookers in Moscow do not sell sex; they sell love". I think what he was trying to convey was the idea that in order to be successful and to command top dollar (ruble / Real / Peso) they need to be able to make a connection of some sort and to draw you into a role, whether real or imagined if only for an hour or two.

Xpartan
03-17-23, 02:44
There is no universal rule of nature that a man cannot have a successful relationship, even marriage, with a prostitute. There are many such. One of the most famous was Juan Peron's marriage to Maria Eva Duarte. Yes, the woman who became the First Lady of Argentina was a prostitute before she met Colonel Juan Peron on 22 January 1944 during a charity event. The rest is history. As Samantha Fox sang "Naughty Girls Need Love Too".If Eva was a prostitute, then so was every successful US female actor, singer of dancer during the pre-MeToo era.

Mr Enternational
03-17-23, 06:17
To quote a Russian friend of mine, "these hookers in Moscow do not sell sex; they sell love". I think what he was trying to convey was the idea that in order to be successful and to command top dollar (ruble / Real / Peso) they need to be able to make a connection of some sort and to draw you into a role, whether real or imagined if only for an hour or two.Yes. And many a monger have fallen for this even after the hour or two is over. Brooklyn's Finest is the movie that portrays this best. New York cop (played by who else but Richard Gere) had been seeing a hooker for many years. He falls madly in love with her. He decides to retire and at this moment he asks her to marry him and move away. She gives him a wake up call and says mf I am a hooker, not your damn girlfriend. Show up without money if you don't mind really seeing how much love you are able to "buy. ".

Turgid
03-17-23, 13:21
......Personally, I have had some long-lasting relationships with a few of my hooker friends....... My long-term relationships usually ended for 2 reasons: 1) the sex ran its course and began to go downhill so I began to lose interest or 2) the girl became a little batty in her head for example asking me to marry her......My relationships with non-pro girlfriends ended for the same reasons.

Turgid
03-17-23, 13:41
The superlative of this example is Empress Theodora, wife of Justinian the Great, of Constantinople......... she did not wait to be asked by anyone she met, but on the contrary, with inviting jests and a comic flaunting of her skirts herself tempted all men who passed by, especially those who were adolescent.
On the field of pleasure she was never defeated. Often she would go picnicking with ten young men or more, in the flower of their strength and virility, and dallied with them all, the whole night through. When they wearied of the sport, she would approach their servants, perhaps thirty in number, and fight a duel with each of these.........Reminds me of a French woman on the nudist beach at Cap the'Agde, southern France in July, 2008. She lay naked on the beach next to her husband with her legs straddled and invited every male present to 'fight a duel' with her. One after another the brave souls came forth, some young, some old, some black, some white and then all the courageous hommes were exhausted, yet she waited.

WyattEarp
03-17-23, 15:28
Yes SS, it is indeed curious. There are some WG's who possess a great many admirable qualities. Among them might be a keen sense of survival. I am sure that none of these girls wakes up at the dawn of puberty and says, "Hey, I think I'll be a hooker when I grow up". Have we not all encountered ladies in this trade who have escaped worse fates because they have been able to survive using their "God given" talents. After all, they are actresses to one degree or another. To quote a Russian friend of mine, "these hookers in Moscow do not sell sex; they sell love". I think what he was trying to convey was the idea that in order to be successful and to command top dollar (ruble / Real / Peso) they need to be able to make a connection of some sort and to draw you into a role, whether real or imagined if only for an hour or two.These woman are attractive and have received male attention since their early teens. They meet thousands of men and sleep with hundreds. If they are good at what they do, they develop great people skills.

They use this "Emotional Intelligence" to get men to like them / love them. It's not necessarily deceitful. Everyone wants to be liked / desired. It certainly beats the alternative. We have all been with the super hot working girl who behaves like she is doing us a favor back in the bedroom.

Nounce
03-17-23, 23:09
My relationships with non-pro girlfriends ended for the same reasons.It does not matter if she is a pro or not. They are often after the same thing. If a girl is an equal to me in some way, like financially equal. I don't care what she does for a living.

Pro or non-pro, there is a spectrum. During covid, I provided a SB living expense for a while because she was stranded and ran out of fund. I never met her in person because she was in another city and pretending to be in the city I was at. I had my friend went to give her money and talked to the landlord just to make sure. Is she a pro, or not?

Mongoose312
03-18-23, 00:01
A couple things about Monte Carlo. I have found attractive girls there. The selection is generally small and it's pricier than 4 x4. There's also a common observation that Monte Carlo (and Centaurus) feature slim Euro-style girls who tourists generally favor. That could have also been at play.
I've found fantastic girls at Monte Carlo- and yes both slim-European style. A couple of these girls saw consistently outside of the club at my place. You pay a little bit of a premium compared to 4 x 4 but I appreciate the ambiance there.

DonMedellin
03-18-23, 16:58
I am under 40, never had erection issues. The thing with me is I don't last long. I would like to fuck for 20 minutes straight in multiple positions. Would someone give me some recommendations in dosage? How many MG should I take as a 1st timer?

Also, how does Viagra work? Based on my research, after I take it, would I have a boner for hours? And after I cum, do I stay hard and can cum again in like 20 minutes? Thanks!

Axel Heyst
03-18-23, 18:17
I am under 40, never had erection issues. The thing with me is I don't last long. I would like to fuck for 20 minutes straight in multiple positions. Would someone give me some recommendations in dosage? How many MG should I take as a 1st timer?

Also, how does Viagra work? Based on my research, after I take it, would I have a boner for hours? And after I cum, do I stay hard and can cum again in like 20 minutes? Thanks!Don, Viagra has no effect on your duration issue. If you feel that you are cuming too soon and you would like to last longer in the saddle, I suggest having lots of sex with multiple girls every day should do the trick. I. E. The more you fuck, the longer you will last. Viagra is for guys having trouble getting it up and or staying hard. It does nothing for premature ejaculation issues.

Steve 9696
03-18-23, 19:48
Just a quick clarification since the term "European Style" was introduced below. I know the intent was to say they are slim but let's be clear that a slim Brasileira is unique in the world. Most slim women have little or no ass. And certainly not the ass of a Brasileira. Worldwide I know of no other country that offers the waist to ass ratio of Brazil. It is unique worldwide and amazing. I am NOT an ass man. And I don't even like doggie that much. But the view of doggie fucking a Brasileira with that slim waist and wide bunda while grabbing onto that meaty but not fat magical piece of flesh is unrivaled.

Slim Brasileiras have the same waist to ass ratio of their thicker counterparts. It's just that the waist is slimmer. My favorite girl type worldwide and that's not even talking the GFE attitude. Brazil fucking rules.

Steve 9696
03-18-23, 20:29
So as per my reports below I had 5 girls at Monte Carlo — all great, and one mega superstar Seeking Arrangements date (and yes I am a pro at running the Seeking Arrangements game. Hmu by PM if you want tips). And I can say you won me over.

I have always been a São Paulo advocate and still love it tops for the glitz of the luxe clubs there. But Rio would be my overall favorite now. The trifecta of the club scene (termas) Seeking option, and scenery just make it a total win. Don't get me wrong I will prob do SP also but if I had one choice worldwide I'the prob fly to Rio.

Rock on fellas!

The Cane
03-18-23, 21:20
So as per my reports below I had 5 girls at Monte Carlo all great, and one mega superstar Seeking Arrangements date (and yes I am a pro at running the Seeking Arrangements game. Hmu by PM if you want tips). And I can say you won me over.

I have always been a So Paulo advocate and still love it tops for the glitz of the luxe clubs there. But Rio would be my overall favorite now. The trifecta of the club scene (termas) Seeking option, and scenery just make it a total win. Don't get me wrong I will prob do SP also but if I had one choice worldwide I'the prob fly to Rio.

Rock on fellas!Well I'm glad you finally went because for the longest time you kept promoting Sao Paulo over Rio without ever having gone to the latter! For me they are equal. It's like two kids you love. You can't choose one over the other!

Jake993
03-18-23, 22:01
They use this "Emotional Intelligence" to get men to like them / love them. It's not necessarily deceitful. Everyone wants to be liked / desired. It certainly beats the alternative. We have all been with the super hot working girl who behaves like she is doing us a favor back in the bedroom.Exactly the point! We as men need to be brutally honest with ourselves. They may like us and pretend even sometimes to love us, but when all is said and done, they are earning a living. What's more, some of them seem to have the intellectual and emotional strength to pull it off. Many times a night if they are good actresses. And I would suggest that these are the ones who are in highest demand and can command the best price.

This is a bit off topic, but sort of reminds me of an explanation I heard about how prostitution has been handled in parts of the Islamic world. I mean no offense so if I get this wrong, I hope you will all take it in the spirit in which it is offered. As I understand, in some Islamic countries, a religious official will actually "marry you" to the sex worker for an hour or a few hours. To me, this sounds like such a pragmatic solution. For the duration of the "session" she is your wife and you can enjoy all of the privileges of marriage. She can love you, honor you, obey you and fulfill the classic definition of a wife on a wedding night. But when it's over, it's over. The marriage is dissolved and both parties go on their merry way. He gets his rocks off and she get her, well let's call it a "dowry" for lack of a better term. Many of you will dismiss this idea as hypocritical, but I think the concept has merit from a philosophical and even a moral perspective.

The Cane
03-18-23, 22:22
Exactly the point! We as men need to be brutally honest with ourselves. They may like us and pretend even sometimes to love us, but when all is said and done, they are earning a living. What's more, some of them seem to have the intellectual and emotional strength to pull it off. Many times a night if they are good actresses. And I would suggest that these are the ones who are in highest demand and can command the best price.

This is a bit off topic, but sort of reminds me of an explanation I heard about how prostitution has been handled in parts of the Islamic world. I mean no offense so if I get this wrong, I hope you will all take it in the spirit in which it is offered. As I understand, in some Islamic countries, a religious official will actually "marry you" to the sex worker for an hour or a few hours. To me, this sounds like such a pragmatic solution. For the duration of the "session" she is your wife and you can enjoy all of the privileges of marriage. She can love you, honor you, obey you and fulfill the classic definition of a wife on a wedding night. But when it's over, it's over. The marriage is dissolved and both parties go on their merry way. He gets his rocks off and she get her, well let's call it a "dowry" for lack of a better term. Many of you will dismiss this idea as hypocritical, but I think the concept has merit from a philosophical and even a moral perspective.In Japan they have their "soapies" where women bathe and pamper the men. Vaginal sex is prohibited but normally overlooked because the man and the woman are said to have "fallen in love" during the session. So this is the way that another culture handles it. Me I prefer the American way. Cut the bullshit hypocrisy. How much for a fuck? And does that include BBBJ / CIM and anal? LOL!

WyattEarp
03-18-23, 23:13
So as per my reports below I had 5 girls at Monte Carlo all great, and one mega superstar Seeking Arrangements date (and yes I am a pro at running the Seeking Arrangements game. Hmu by PM if you want tips). And I can say you won me over.

I have always been a So Paulo advocate and still love it tops for the glitz of the luxe clubs there. But Rio would be my overall favorite now. The trifecta of the club scene (termas) Seeking option, and scenery just make it a total win. Don't get me wrong I will prob do SP also but if I had one choice worldwide I'the prob fly to Rio.That's quite an endorsement.

This even seems to come without the usual Rio versus SP caveats of whether one enjoys spending time at the beach and in the outdoors.

WyattEarp
03-18-23, 23:48
Just a quick clarification since the term "European Style" was introduced below. I know the intent was to say they are slim but let's be clear that a slim Brasileira is unique in the world. Most slim women have little or no ass. And certainly not the ass of a Brasileira. Worldwide I know of no other country that offers the waist to ass ratio of Brazil. It is unique worldwide and amazing. I am NOT an ass man. And I don't even like doggie that much. But the view of doggie fucking a Brasileira with that slim waist and wide bunda while grabbing onto that meaty but not fat magical piece of flesh is unrivaled.

Slim Brasileiras have the same waist to ass ratio of their thicker counterparts. It's just that the waist is slimmer. My favorite girl type worldwide and that's not even talking the GFE attitude. Brazil fucking rules.I always say even the slim Brasileiras have some pop in their ass. I have had friends declare they're not assmen and believe the Brazilian women they see in media are too thick. They all come back from Rio with an appreciation for Brasileira bundas.

"Euro-style" is just a way to differentiate the brancas so many foreigners seem to desire. It's not to say that there aren't slim, hot black and mixed race Brasileiras. There are many. Brasileiras come in all shapes and sizes.

Here are two "Euro-style" Brasileiras that some will recognize from 2000's Brazilian porn. I think they exemplify the Euro look with that Brasileira ass that won't quit.

Mr Enternational
03-18-23, 23:54
I am under 40, never had erection issues. The thing with me is I don't last long. I would like to fuck for 20 minutes straight in multiple positions.Stop watching those porno movies and you will be happy with the normal 3 minutes of fucking like the rest of the world. Even porno people blow their loads quick, but that is the part they cut out of the movie before shooting again later or using a stunt dick.

Mr Enternational
03-19-23, 00:05
As I understand, in some Islamic countries, a religious official will actually "marry you" to the sex worker for an hour or a few hours.Never heard of that, but if it is true then the hookers they use sure are not from their own culture. And when those guys travel, they let their hair down. What I have heard is that they fuck each other if they have not married yet and that is why they like anal so much.

Whenever I meet a chick in Thailand that lives where the Arab guys stay or goes to the clubs the Arab guys go to or has done some hooking in the Middle East, I say so you like to fuck in the ass, because Arab men like to fuck ass. 9. 5 times out 10 I am correct.

Foolish
03-19-23, 01:12
First time coming to Brazil, appreciate everyone's respectful reports and advice.

I am also a fan of the taller, slim & natural bodies. Will check out Monte Carlo, Onix, other good gparena etc.

I will be in SP beforehand, but unfortunately will be in Rio on Apr 6, the Thursday right before Good Friday.

In my search of the archives, I know this will be a terrible time, but I had no choice in itinerary.

Will all the clinicas & termas be closed on the Friday? (and the weekend or just much slower/less ladies? Only saw notes on members having set plans beforehand).

I guess I can try some of the online / seeking options as a backup?

Thanks and hope to meet up with some of you.

F.

PS My $0.02 on Vitamin V or C, I find that even a half dose of either, I find duration can be increased when using. I don’t have any issues getting it up.

TjBrazil
03-19-23, 15:15
Well, it's time for a trip report from my Rio trip. This trip was way better than my pandemic trip. Arrived at the airport and went to the second floor or third technically to get a Uber. The Wi-Fi works great now so need to worry. Got the black car which was a Corolla with leather seats. About 100 reals. Stayed at Arena Ipanema which allows one different guest per day. That makes them girl friendly, but obviously no three ways or girl in the day and different girl at night. I was so exhausted from my terma partying, I never brought anyone over. It cost close to 150 a night. If you bring girls from mabs every night, it's worth the money, but if you aren't, I feel it's overpriced but nice hotel.

After showering, I had to check out this life massoterapia and see if it was legit or not. Here is the deal, there is no sex, but if you pay for the nuru naked oil massage and more you can touch the girl get a handjob but no sex. You can get their number for later for that. I was with Ellen. Real pretty with a great natural body. Overall expensive, but okay for a one time thing. https://www.liferiodejaneiro.com/clinicas/ipanema.

Tried to sleep but couldn't so off to Monte Carlo. There was one looker who I took up. Begged for my milk in her mouth, and I obliged after much effort.

Next night off to 4 x4 and it was packed. I took one girl up. Great oral, anal and begged for my milk too. 2 for 2 so far. Brazil is great. No place like it. Either these girls are the greatest actresses or they really enjoy the sex. Next night went to solarium. It was a weekday so the selection was much better than the Saturday last trip. Girl with dd naturals came to talk to me. We hit it off Great, so I took her up. There were a solid 3 girls I would do there. CIM BBBJ with her. 3 for 3. I'm batting a 1000 so far.

There was one girl here with black hair who was the best looking one there but she seemed like a trophy screw. Didn't smile or approach anyone so I didn't try with her.

Next night went to Centaurus and found my type. Great body. Natural see cups. No fat. Great body overall. 23 years old. Couldn't cum at all. Semi erection. Need to look into ED drugs for next trip. The unit doesn't work like before. I'm just old now and don't recover as a fast. Next night was Sunday, everything is closed, and I was still tired from the 4 girls I was with the first 3 nights. I decided to stay in and recharge the battery.

Next night back to 4 x 4. It was slow so I took the same girl up. Only one doable girl for me. After 4 x4, I went to terma 65. It sucked. The place was a room full of smoke with ugly girls mixed in. I left fast. Went to terma New York which was terma Cancun. It's basically a bar now. Met one girl that was doable, took her up got some oral everywhere blowjob from her. Back to the hotel. Next night went to 4 x4. Saw a hottie and made out with her like 2 college kids. She invited her friend over to make out with us. I took them both up for my only 3 way of the trip. It was the best 3 way of my life. We did everything. I was feeling strong this night. Full erection, ate them both out, me and one girl ate her friend out for a bit, got double BJ with cum in both mouths. They were amazing fun and the reason Rio is the greatest place on earth. These girls really love sex. Acting or not. Last night I was exhausted and had nothing left so I just ate on the strip walked by Mabs which seems like a legit place to find girls after hours like Helpee. I just didn't partake. Too tired. Anyway, that's it. Had a great time. Will probably get a cheaper hotel in the 80 range next time since my days of bringing girls over at night or over. Just don't have the energy anymore.

Turgid
03-19-23, 16:28
I am under 40, never had erection issues. The thing with me is I don't last long. I would like to fuck for 20 minutes straight in multiple positions. Would someone give me some recommendations in dosage? How many MG should I take as a 1st timer?

Also, how does Viagra work? Based on my research, after I take it, would I have a boner for hours? And after I cum, do I stay hard and can cum again in like 20 minutes? Thanks!When I was under 40 I sometimes had problems holding back the big O too, but that was for the first round, I lasted longer the second round. When I was in my 20's and had a short time date with a hooker I had to jerk off at home before going mongering. Anyhoo, I found that the older I got the easier it became to delay climax, unfortunately, it simultaneously became more difficult to follow up with that second round.

DustyRode
03-19-23, 16:37
Stop watching those porno movies and you will be happy with the normal 3 minutes of fucking like the rest of the world. Even porno people blow their loads quick, but that is the part they cut out of the movie before shooting again later or using a stunt dick.I was in Brazil in January / February. The girls complained that I fucked them for an hour straight. Sometimes one after the other. I'm over 60 and didn't use any drugs. I picked the best-looking girls and had a great time in every position. Couldn't do that when I was younger. Not everyone blows their load quickly.

CherchezFemme
03-19-23, 19:03
I will never cease to be amazed at how stupid and short-sighted women can be, especially the younger ones.

They don't understand that their bratty or flaky behavior with a client who clearly likes them and wants to see them again is going to cost them money, easy money, especially if their semi pros or Street girls and have no way of finding safe clients.

I was in Cuba last month and it happened time and again. A friend there who can supply girls told me this every day I was there, astonished at how silly the girls were acting with me and my friends. He's been seeing it for a long time and it still makes him shake his head.

"I just paid you 10 months salary for 30 minutes of sex, I paid for your food and alcohol, you can live easy for a few weeks just by spending 2 hours total with me, but now you're going to act like an idiot?

" I want to see you again, you can provide for the next few months for your family by being nice to me, and you decide to do that? Do you realize I could take you out of poverty and bring you to the US? I could send you money every month like so many other simps?

You can either love women or understand them, hard to do both.

This has happened to me in multiple countries, in different continents.

Maybe it's for the best, as sometimes I get lonely and when I find a girl who I really like looks wise and sex wise, I start thinking with my little head and I might do something stupid.


Not that it really needs to be said for the hundred's time, but need to flush my heart out a little.

My exuberant message was not based on, but certainly motivated by the fact that I had two really nice experiences where something seemed to have clicked. .......The other one who was soooooo sweet with me and seemed to initially light up by my invitation to come with me (and out of this abusive contract arrangement in that establishment) she ultimately flaked. It is quite a bummer if you find out these girls seem to prefer this job even if it doesn't even pay well, instead of taking a leap. It kind of nags on me. But then, don't try to figure them .....
But then, it's nothing really, because I didn't feel bad before I met them, so why should I feel bad now? It's just amazing how apparently shitty jobs girls do just to avoid a real job, and even if offered a way out, they prefer staying in this. .... But once you want to take her out, then it's another leap still. Some are not satisfied with the same amount they would get in their "regular job", and others don't even want to leave that job that pays so meager. Some are worried to be kicked out of a very bad deal even. Go figure.

Mr Enternational
03-19-23, 21:34
I was in Brazil in January / February. The girls complained that I fucked them for an hour straight. Sometimes one after the other. I'm over 60 and didn't use any drugs. I picked the best-looking girls and had a great time in every position. Couldn't do that when I was younger. Not everyone blows their load quickly.I know another board member that is about the same age that goes through this and he does not see it as a good thing. He is actually frustrated by it. Seems it is the sex that counts for you, while for him it is the blowing of the load that matters.

Junior11
03-19-23, 22:18
Nice report. Where is Centaurus?


Next night went to Centaurus and found my type. Great body. Natural see cups. No fat. Great body overall. 23 years old. Couldn't cum at all. Semi erection. Need to look into ED drugs for next trip. The unit doesn't work like before. I'm just old now and don't recover as a fast. Next night was Sunday, everything is closed, and I was still tired from the 4 girls I was with the first 3 nights. I decided to stay in and recharge the battery.
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Jake993
03-20-23, 02:58
I was in Brazil in January / February. The girls complained that I fucked them for an hour straight. Sometimes one after the other. I'm over 60 and didn't use any drugs. I picked the best-looking girls and had a great time in every position. Couldn't do that when I was younger. Not everyone blows their load quickly.Let's keep this a secret between us senior citizens Dusty. If this becomes common knowledge, the young gals will avoid us!

Jake993
03-20-23, 03:05
Never heard of that, but if it is true then the hookers they use sure are not from their own culture. .Straight from Wikipedia. While prostitution is illegal in Iran, the Shiah institution of Nikah mut'ah allows contractual short-term relations between both sexes. Usually, a dowry is given to the temporary wife. Sigheh can last from 3 days to 99 years although some Islamic scholars, say that it is impossible to marry a person, as temporary marriage, for a period of time that is usually longer than the average life-time of a person it expires automatically without divorce. According to a number of scholars and Iranians, Sigheh is being misused as a legal cover for prostitution in Iran.

Maelstrom
03-20-23, 03:18
Well, it's time for a trip report from my Rio trip. This trip was way better than my pandemic trip. Arrived at the airport and went to the second floor or third technically to get a Uber. The Wi-Fi works great now so need to worry. Got the black car which was a Corolla with leather seats. About 100 reals. Stayed at Arena Ipanema which allows one different guest per day. That makes them girl friendly, but obviously no three ways or girl in the day and different girl at night. I was so exhausted from my terma partying, I never brought anyone over. It cost close to 150 a night. If you bring girls from mabs every night, it's worth the money, but if you aren't, I feel it's overpriced but nice hotel.

After showering, I had to check out this life massoterapia and see if it was legit or not. Here is the deal, there is no sex, but if you pay for the nuru naked oil massage and more you can touch the girl get a handjob but no sex. You can get their number for later for that. I was with Ellen. Real pretty with a great natural body. Overall expensive, but okay for a one time thing. https://www.liferiodejaneiro.com/clinicas/ipanema.


.Great report. I'm going to have to check out that nuru massage its literally 1 block from my airbnb. Going to schedule with Gabbi.

The Cane
03-20-23, 03:25
Straight from Wikipedia. While prostitution is illegal in Iran, the Shiah institution of Nikah mut'ah allows contractual short-term relations between both sexes. Usually, a dowry is given to the temporary wife. Sigheh can last from 3 days to 99 years although some Islamic scholars, say that it is impossible to marry a person, as temporary marriage, for a period of time that is usually longer than the average life-time of a person it expires automatically without divorce. According to a number of scholars and Iranians, Sigheh is being misused as a legal cover for prostitution in Iran.It is indeed a "thing". I saw a story on TV about it once.

PussyRiot
03-20-23, 04:16
Just don't have the energy anymore.Thanks for the report and how old are you?

TjBrazil
03-20-23, 07:18
Thanks for the report and how old are you?50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.

Chica Chaser
03-20-23, 14:00
Well, it's time for a trip report from my Rio trip...As others have said, great report. Glad you wrote it.

Stinky Squid
03-20-23, 17:57
50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.The best of the pills is tadalafil, because it has a long term effect. You could take 5 MG per day and it probably helps you out at any time. There isn't this immediate effect, in fact, you might find that the best effect is the long lasting one after an hour.

There is another sure-fire way, for which you could visit the Doctor Instituto Cavalcanti in São Paulo and he gives you a prescription for a bimix, injection, and you go to the Flucca Pharmacia de Manipulação (or rather you contact them by WhatsApp) pass your prescription (do the highest concentration). The doctor's consultation costs 800 reais and the 5 ML bottles aren't cheap either. But effectiveness is 100%.

Stinky Squid
03-20-23, 18:25
I will never cease to be amazed at how stupid and short-sighted women can be, especially the younger ones.Yes, in those cases it may just be they don't like you that much. With my two prospects I just came off my first date. The educated one with good family and no children, so I completed my save-a-ho mission with her by yanking her out of the place. I had messaged her Friday (against the general advice, but hey, I find weekends are difficult with the paid options, so I really wanted to try a quiet weekend with going to the beach and all. I got her to commit. Came Saturday and she said they wouldn't let her go. The thing is, just with my other sweetie, they get them on their final pay. They hold back the payment until the very end. If she wants to leave a day earlier (or even just feels bad) they don't let her go, they would not pay anything. Of course it's illegal. These places can be very abusive.

(That girl told me the boss of that one establishment, has another establishment also, believe it or not, that is such an asshole, he put his own 18 year old daughter to rent out her pussy. I mean, imagine the kind of human being who would do that, and then imagine how much of a heart he'll have for other men's daughters. And this is a true 24 hours place, I. e., you can go there any time of day or night, and they are on straight 24 hours multi day duty. Sign up for 10 days straight and they do not get out or lose their money.).

Anyway, I was insisting and ultimately paying a slightly exaggerated bar fine to get her out. Just because I really wanted the weekend to be that and not random other encounters. So at 3 am finally she arrived at my cheap hotel in Niteroi, where some 8 hours earlier I had two very nice and cute girls over for a little revenge fuck. The next morning we went to the beach-near AirBnB I had booked for us, at least to enjoy the Sunday. Now this wasn't the commercial deal any more, and she started warming up to me more and more. Cuddling all night was really nice. And she left immediately messaging me that she misses me already and felt so good in my arms and all. And I totally like her, kind of my type, and she is a quality girl. Left me with her condoms and lidocaine gel and the other gel, because she doesn't need it any more and doesn't want her parents to find it by accident.

So the story of this one is she was doing this for 2 months after she had lost her regular job because she didn't want to move with the company, so she could finish her law school. Chew on that. A girl can get herself through law school this way. Something a young man can never do. But the opportunities to work in some house are not so abundant, so they actually take pretty shitty deals. She pretty much hated the job and used lidocaine gel to not feel anything, like pain. So, when we two clicked, it was because she thought I was being nice, and she told me very few are, and she didn't give her number to (m) any. Taken with the right size grain of salt, it sounded legit.

So, this one was redeemed. I think she'll respond to me quicker from now on.

But today my oh so sweet girl is also back to work for her last couple of days after the weekend. (I don't know why so many of those places take the weekend off, it doesn't seem to make sense, since many working dudes have more time on weekends.) And I am ready to pay her an unannounced visit. I am quite pumped up, because I was quite smitten by her. Her story too isn't so simple. She has two kids, and I think I found out on social media that probably the dad of her youngest died couple of years ago and she doesn't seem to be over it. So, there are real stories everywhere. They aren't all trash. I have this big heart and as you know I kind of enjoy treating them as anything between my love interest and my own daughters. I don't feel this sense of "women are oppressed so I need to rescue damsels in distress", no, because women have this amazing opportunity that guys just don't have. But then I just look for whether there is someone who is worth, who treats me well and genuine, and then I love to extend my hand.

Now what I'll do with all of those is going to be a question. But let's see how it goes today.

Steve 9696
03-20-23, 19:42
50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.I use both Cialis and Viagra generic depending on the situation. Both work equally well with few side effects for me. Main one is bloodshot eyes. Lumify eyedrops are AMAZING for this. Forget visine and that shit. These you literally go from bloodshot to bright white in about two minutes.

I use K Health online pharmacy out of Florida and have been happy.

I use Viagra if I know I am for sure fucking one or two times in next few hours and then prob some other day later in the week and would retake then. I use Cialis when on a multi girl binge. Even tho it can last a few days I usually top up each day. But in a pinch it will def last three days no problem. If I had to choose one it would be Cialis because you don't have to time it. You could take it Sunday and not fuck till Mon or Tues.