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Azn Safado,
I was waiting for your report, so thanks again here ;)
Too bad you got bad session at L'uomo, it seems that even in terma if you hurry up or if you do not pay attention to the little signals, it can happens to have a non unforgettable experience.
The same for me at Solarium in september, a non good DFK in boite is seldom a GFE in cabine, but the % of GFE in terma is so high, that sometimes, at least me, I take the risk.
A bit unbelievable there are in termas girls who do BJ with condom, I thought it is a must there a BJ uncovered, but thanks to report this, so everytime I will ask in advance. ( in the last times I only asked if she likes anal or not thinking BBBJ is all the time included ).
So it seems Nuth does not worth to go until there, much closer 00 and not worst.
May I ask you a question ? Why in all the time you was there you only start talking to one girl and not to, for example, 5-6 girls ?
I understand that probably you was not so horny after session at L'uomo, but maybe talking to more girls, you could end to be much more successfull as it is hard to close the deal with the first and only one you choose.
Just a question to understand if with more effort, can be a good place to date regular girls or if, they are not much interested in meeting gringos. ( did you got some eye contacts as you got at 00 ? )
Thanks friend and keep on having great fun in Rio
Best regards
What type of music did they play at Nuth?
Photo taken at Help on Saturday, 1 November 2009.Any particular reason to avoid those girls?
Azn Safado
11-30-09, 03:20
What type of music did they play at Nuth?
Mostly house music, sprinkled in with remixes of pop songs like The Black Eyed Peas "I Gotta Feeling". Seems their playlist repeated after about 3 hours as I started hearing the same songs again.
Azn Safado
11-30-09, 04:31
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So it seems Nuth does not worth to go until there, much closer 00 and not worst.
May I ask you a question ? Why in all the time you was there you only start talking to one girl and not to, for example, 5-6 girls ?
I understand that probably you was not so horny after session at L'uomo, but maybe talking to more girls, you could end to be much more successfull as it is hard to close the deal with the first and only one you choose.
Nuth Lounge is very good, just depends on what you are looking for I guess. Club 00 has a much younger crowd, like rich kids (age 18-22) from PUC. So for people that are a bit older, I would recommend Nuth.
I don't go to night clubs back home in the US very often. So you could say my "game" isn't even polished at home. It's hard for me to just walk up to a group of girls and "open a set" in my own country. Now throw me into a foreign country and Drgn's (ISG Poster) point seems valid - The point is if your skill set is not developed to the point where you can consistently game/pull “high value targets” in your own country where you understand the language, cultural jokes, etc., then your chances of doing so in a foreign environment drop precipitously. I'm talking targets in general.
I mainly go to these clubs in Brazil for the experience and just to have some fun. If I happen to meet some girls then that's cool, but I don't go to these things with any expectation of bringing a girl home.
Just a question to understand if with more effort, can be a good place to date regular girls or if, they are not much interested in meeting gringos. ( did you got some eye contacts as you got at 00 ? )
I think it could be a good place to find some regular girls to date. Just depends if they find you attractive and charming, and you can communicate with them.
As for them being interested in meeting Gringos, I wouldn't have any idea. I would say it depends on the girl, ie, I can't generalize and say that 95% of them would not be interested because I don't really know what their attitude towards, and perceptions of, Gringos really are. It seems Sperto, Prosal, and friends have recently been actively debating in the " Non-Pro Garotas - Opinions & Advice " forum about whether or not it is good or desirable for these girls to date a Gringo, so I won't open up a new can of worms here.
Nuth Lounge is very good, just depends on what you are looking for I guess. Club 00 has a much younger crowd, like rich kids (age 18-22) from PUC. So for people that are a bit older, I would recommend Nuth.
I don't go to night clubs back home in the US very often. So you could say my "game" isn't even polished at home. It's hard for me to just walk up to a group of girls and "open a set" in my own country. Now throw me into a foreign country and Drgn's (ISG Poster) point seems valid. The point is if your skill set is not developed to the point where you can consistently game/pull "high value targets" in your own country where you understand the language, cultural jokes, etc., then your chances of doing so in a foreign environment drop precipitously. I'm talking targets in general.
I mainly go to these clubs in Brazil for the experience and just to have some fun. If I happen to meet some girls then that's cool, but I don't go to these things with any expectation of bringing a girl home.
I think it could be a good place to find some regular girls to date. Just depends if they find you attractive and charming, and you can communicate with them.
As for them being interested in meeting Gringos, I wouldn't have any idea. I would say it depends on the girl, ie, I can't generalize and say that 95% of them would not be interested because I don't really know what their attitude towards, and perceptions of, Gringos really are. It seems Sperto, Prosal, and friends have recently been actively debating in the " Non-Pro Garotas. Opinions & Advice " forum about whether or not it is good or desirable for these girls to date a Gringo, so I won't open up a new can of worms here. What all these pick up Artist talk? No wonder you have having issues with picking up woman.
Saying stuff like "open up a set" and "high value female" "talking targets" that sounds so NERDY and GEEKY I heard that foolish talk on VH1 the pick up Artist were this clown in a Top hat with a make up and eyeliner trying to get these NERDS to walk up and talk to girls all of that mess was set up for TV.
Just hit the gym and get yourself in shape that goes a long way in making a girl even look your way.
Kid Cisco
Jamaicanceo
11-30-09, 20:25
What all these pick up Artist talk? No wonder you have having issues with picking up woman.
Saying stuff like "open up a set" and "high value female" "talking targets" that sounds so NERDY and GEEKY I heard that foolish talk on VH1 the pick up Artist were this clown in a Top hat with a make up and eyeliner trying to get these NERDS to walk up and talk to girls all of that mess was set up for TV.
Just hit the gym and get yourself in shape that goes a long way in making a girl even look your way.
Kid CiscoHa, ha, ha, LOL!
Real talk!
Just hit the gym and get yourself in shape that goes a long way in making a girl even look your way.
plus it releases endorphins, feelgood chemicals that make you more 'alive' and attractive; it increases your physical dexterity and stamina in bed; it makes you (and makes you look) like a 'doer' rather than a lounge lizard; and it's gotta make you feel good about yourself - one of the first steps to getting women to feel good about you lol.
See you there!
Azn Safado
11-30-09, 22:00
What all these pick up Artist talk? No wonder you have having issues with picking up woman.
Saying stuff like "open up a set" and "high value female" "talking targets" that sounds so NERDY and GEEKY I heard that foolish talk on VH1 the pick up Artist were this clown in a Top hat with a make up and eyeliner trying to get these NERDS to walk up and talk to girls all of that mess was set up for TV.
Just hit the gym and get yourself in shape that goes a long way in making a girl even look your way.
Kid Cisco
Yeah, I watch that show The Pickup Artist for pure entertainment. I don't actually believe in those retarded principles (DHV, Negs, blah blah), that might only work on a small number of stupid American girls with absolutely no self-esteem. I was just simply using the terms in the context of Drgn's quote.
I mainly go to these clubs in Brazil for the experience and just to have some fun. If I happen to meet some girls then that's cool, but I don't go to these things with any expectation of bringing a girl home.
I think it could be a good place to find some regular girls to date. Just depends if they find you attractive and charming, and you can communicate with them.
As for them being interested in meeting Gringos, I wouldn't have any idea. I would say it depends on the girl, ie, I can't generalize and say that 95% of them would not be interested because I don't really know what their attitude towards, and perceptions of, Gringos really are. It seems Sperto, Prosal, and friends have recently been actively debating in the " Non-Pro Garotas. Opinions & Advice " forum about whether or not it is good or desirable for these girls to date a Gringo, so I won't open up a new can of worms here.[/QUOTE]I'm sure most of you on this site are already are aware of what some Brazilians real perception of "gringos". To begin, most of the educated people in Rio believe most foreigners only travel to Copacabana for sexual tourism. If you do not have any official business or reason for being in Rio other than "I travel for my vacation to enjoy the beautiful beaches and learn the culture" don't fool yourself you will be considerd a suspect especially if you admit this is not your first time in copa. Lets face it the reality is most Brasilains love to gossip about other people and whom a better target than the young lady with the old gringo. There is a stigma that if a Brazilian woman is in love with a gringo it is only for money and a better way of life. Unfortunately, some of the women get riddiculed by friends, family neighbors because of there relationship with a gringo. For those who know the web site ORKUT there is a community on there entitled brasilians married to gringos and it talks about what these brasilain woman truly think about their gringo. If some of you guys read the blogs from that community you would be more cautious of what type of woman you associate your self with.
I hit centro again today. First, I stopped by BA 85. Big-breasted Amamda, dark brown skin and blonde streaks in the hair, was back on floor 3. She knows me well and it shocked the girls who thought I was a newbie to see I knew a veteran.
I sessioned with her for R20, though I think Amanda told the cashier R15 and kept the change. Anyway, I never really mesh well with her in bed, she is just fun in the lounge.
Floor 2 has a couple of cute white girls.
Floor 4 is still closed.
Floor 5 has the leftovers.
Floor 1 still has the highest quality girls. Carol does BBBJ, Luma has a nice big butt, and there are a couple of blondes.
I went to Urugainia 24 today and ran into Duda, who use to work at BA 85 on the 3rd and 4th floors. She is a major "ho. " Duda was running around practically naked, only wearing a small towel that barely covered her waist. To make matters worse/better she was hanging up Christmas ornaments while standing on a chair. There were about 15 guys standing around staring at her butt and pus*y. I was there for about an hour and she did about 5 guys, so I guess in one day she got tossed around about 40 times.
I did her around 5pm and she was real loose but still good. Being skinny she is naturally tight, so the looseness is actually good. R$20
My guess is that Duda just stopped putting her clothes back on because she was just basically getting passed around like a basketball! I expected to hear somebody shout, "I've got next! "
I then went back to BA 85 and pulled Paoloa from floor 3. She is brown with a nice round butt. I really dogged her out. I banged harder than I have all week in Rio and she screamed LOUD! At first she was faking it, but then she got real quiet and then just SCREAMED!
That chick who was walking around the other day asking for a real man was back there and I know she heard the butt slapping and screams. Whose the man, now?! R$15
Tijuana
Sunset Strip
12-01-09, 01:06
This certainly was the case but I understand that a recent court ruling may change this. As I understand it, the ruling was that taking advantage or abuse meant that the person was forced into the acts. So, this would not apply to the Termas situations, thus not making them illegal. Here is the link to the Oct.2, 2009 article:
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/mat/2009/10/02/para-procuradora-lei-tirou-bordeis-da-ilegalidade-no-brasil-767879223.asp
Basically, it is a new law (lei 12.015 from 7/8/09) that just was interpreted in a court case. If you google "lei 12.015" you'll find a lot of stuff.
If it turns out that way, it would be great as it could create more competition. However, this being Brasil, I wouldn't bet on what the outcome will be.
I am not sure this law will change why thermas are on "shaky" grounds. The new ruling deals with the issue of forcing a person into prostitution, which is always illegal. The problem thermas have is that they make money off the sexual services of others. In Brazil, and the US for that matter, it does not matter whether the prostitute is forced into the life or not, but the act of living off the earnings of a prositute (pimping or pandering) is always 100% illegal.
I think some others may have tried to make this point already. The problem for thermas is that they have to always deal with the "pandering" issue.
Anytime a politician wants to make the news he or she can go in and bust some people and then shout "explotiation!"
And that is what has been happening.
TJ
El Austriaco
12-01-09, 01:08
This certainly was the case but I understand that a recent court ruling may change this. As I understand it, the ruling was that taking advantage or abuse meant that the person was forced into the acts. So, this would not apply to the Termas situations, thus not making them illegal. Here is the link to the Oct.2, 2009 article:
http://oglobo.globo.com/pais/mat/2009/10/02/para-procuradora-lei-tirou-bordeis-da-ilegalidade-no-brasil-767879223.asp
Basically, it is a new law (lei 12.015 from 7/8/09) that just was interpreted in a court case. If you google "lei 12.015" you'll find a lot of stuff.
If it turns out that way, it would be great as it could create more competition. However, this being Brasil, I wouldn't bet on what the outcome will be.
Thanks for the link. Very interesting indeed. You are right: on the surface, the body text of Article 229 was changed to read "estabelecimento em que ocorra exploração sexual", i.e. "establishment where sexual exploitation occurs". Based on the interpretation that no sexual exploitation occurs in a termas considering that the girls are there of their free will, this would indeed mean that termas would be legal.
At the same time, the heading of Article 229 maintains the wording "Casa de prostituição".
Now, of course, the crux of the matter is: what constitutes sexual exploitation, and who determines that? And that's where the newly amended Penal Code doesn't say anything explicity.
But very interestingly, Article 231 (regarding international and domestic trafficking of a person for purposes of sexual exploitation) reads as follows. First, let me quote Article 231 for international trafficking:
http://www.planalto.gov.br/CCIVIL/Decreto-Lei/Del2848compilado.htm
"Promover ou facilitar a entrada, no território nacional, de alguém que nele venha a exercer a prostituição ou outra forma de exploração sexual, ou a saída de alguém que vá exercê-la no estrangeiro" (emphasis added).
This wording is no accident, as shown by Article 231-A for domestic trafficking:
"Promover ou facilitar o deslocamento de alguém dentro do território nacional para o exercício da prostituição ou outra forma de exploração sexual."
So in others words, according to the amended Brazilian Penal Code, prostitution is considered another form of sexual exploitation.
Pretty self-contradictory and strange, indeed.
The problem thermas have is that they make money off the sexual services of others.
IMHO, the principal legal problem of termas was that maintaining a "house of prostitution" used to be illegal per se. Whether they were making money off the sexual services of others was a secondary issue. With the new law, maintaining a *****house is no longer illegal, but an "establishment where sexual exploitation occurs" is. You are right, now the issue is whether they are benefitting from other's prostitution, and I agree with you... based on that alone, they are still on quite shaky ground.
EA
WIth all this talk about what is legal and what isnt. How is an escort agency like Karla Models legal? The girls live on site, are sent out to have sex with clients and then return and give a portion of the money to the agency. Sounds like textbook pimping to me! Why arent they raided every week or being shutdown?
Jamaicanceo
12-01-09, 04:02
Any particular reason to avoid those girls?These girls are what make Help worth closing. They have an entitlement attitude, based on new mongers not knowing any better, and experienced mongers making rookie mistakes. Issue one, a friend on his 2nd trip to Rio orders a bottle of Whiskey and red bull for our group of four. THe girl in the middle is a friend of my friend's "gfe". Without him knowing other girls hit the bottle and red bull, plus added packs of cigarettes for a total tab of R425. 00. I was able to get the cigarettes taken of the tab, but Help wouldn't knock off anything else. The second issue was on me. I should've paid attention to the bottle and red bull, because I had more experience and should've known better.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. " 8-0
These 3 girls speak and understand english very well. I said "fuck you" as I walked out of Help. She followed me staggering drunk, shouting and ranting that I owed her money and she will call the police, who had 2 police cars parked on the sidewalk to the left of Help as you walk out of Help with about 4 officers. I kept walking across Miguel Lemos, and the heffer followed me ranting further that she has friends to help her get her money. Nevertheless, I los t her at Rua Xavier da Silveira and Copacabana.
Devilspinkick
12-01-09, 09:16
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. "
If those are the type of chicks that are to be found in HELP then it should not only be closed but demolished. Immediately!
- DSK
JohnnyBraz
12-01-09, 09:16
These girls are what make Help worth closing. They have an entitlement attitude, based on new mongers not knowing any better, and experienced mongers making rookie mistakes. Issue one, a friend on his 2nd trip to Rio orders a bottle of Whiskey and red bull for our group of four. THe girl in the middle is a friend of my friend's "gfe". Without him knowing other girls hit the bottle and red bull, plus added packs of cigarettes for a total tab of R425. 00. I was able to get the cigarettes taken of the tab, but Help wouldn't knock off anything else. The second issue was on me. I should've paid attention to the bottle and red bull, because I had more experience and should've known better.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. " 8-0
These 3 girls speak and understand english very well. I said "fuck you" as I walked out of Help. She followed me staggering drunk, shouting and ranting that I owed her money and she will call the police, who had 2 police cars parked on the sidewalk to the left of Help as you walk out of Help with about 4 officers. I kept walking across Miguel Lemos, and the heffer followed me ranting further that she has friends to help her get her money. Nevertheless, I los t her at Rua Xavier da Silveira and Copacabana.The sooner help closes the better, if they all move up towards balconey, that shit will not be tolerated there. 200r for spending 200r on her on drinks. What a mut. Who the fuck do these *****s think they are? To many gringoes are letting them get away with anything. Could you imagine these *****s demanding 200r out off a brazilian who had just spent 200r on drinks on them? When I go to out the front off help, I grab a waiter and tell him that only I order drinks for people, no one orders on behalf off me or my table, same at balcony.
Drunken ***** Renata. great fuck if yo can ever get her to stop drinking. not worth the effort. Worn out, tired chicks. The whole trio. Sorry you had to put up with a night of those chicks.
These girls are what make Help worth closing. They have an entitlement attitude, based on new mongers not knowing any better, and experienced mongers making rookie mistakes. Issue one, a friend on his 2nd trip to Rio orders a bottle of Whiskey and red bull for our group of four. THe girl in the middle is a friend of my friend's "gfe". Without him knowing other girls hit the bottle and red bull, plus added packs of cigarettes for a total tab of R425. 00. I was able to get the cigarettes taken of the tab, but Help wouldn't knock off anything else. The second issue was on me. I should've paid attention to the bottle and red bull, because I had more experience and should've known better.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. " 8-0
These 3 girls speak and understand english very well. I said "fuck you" as I walked out of Help. She followed me staggering drunk, shouting and ranting that I owed her money and she will call the police, who had 2 police cars parked on the sidewalk to the left of Help as you walk out of Help with about 4 officers. I kept walking across Miguel Lemos, and the heffer followed me ranting further that she has friends to help her get her money. Nevertheless, I los t her at Rua Xavier da Silveira and Copacabana.
Mr Enternational
12-01-09, 11:08
These girls are what make Help worth closing. They have an entitlement attitude, based on new mongers not knowing any better, and experienced mongers making rookie mistakes.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. "
That is really some funny shit, because a few years back my dad fucked the one in the middle for R$20. He picked her up from Meia Pataca and offered her R$1/minute for 20 minutes. And if I had time to dig out the photos to prove it I would. The girl on the right is of course Flavia from Rocinha. Although I have never fucked her I am pretty cool with her. The one on the left I have never seen in my life. They must have seen sucker written across you guys' foreheads.
These girls are what make Help worth closing. They have an entitlement attitude, based on new mongers not knowing any better, and experienced mongers making rookie mistakes. Issue one, a friend on his 2nd trip to Rio orders a bottle of Whiskey and red bull for our group of four. THe girl in the middle is a friend of my friend's "gfe". Without him knowing other girls hit the bottle and red bull, plus added packs of cigarettes for a total tab of R425. 00. I was able to get the cigarettes taken of the tab, but Help wouldn't knock off anything else. The second issue was on me. I should've paid attention to the bottle and red bull, because I had more experience and should've known better.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. " 8-0
These 3 girls speak and understand english very well. I said "fuck you" as I walked out of Help. She followed me staggering drunk, shouting and ranting that I owed her money and she will call the police, who had 2 police cars parked on the sidewalk to the left of Help as you walk out of Help with about 4 officers. I kept walking across Miguel Lemos, and the heffer followed me ranting further that she has friends to help her get her money. Nevertheless, I los t her at Rua Xavier da Silveira and Copacabana.Wow,
Man this shit been going on for sometime now, the problem is many guys mostly "rookies" or guys that been to Rio a few times get afraid and pay these chicks their "keep your mouth shut money" I call it, BUT there are cases were a chick will go to your place on the agreed price and then get to your place and ask for more $$ and IF you don't give it to them! They will start breaking your stuff and crying they will call up their friends and the boyfriend that is a police to beat you up.
How to stop this? A monger need to weed out these chicks that run around with Known "crooks" and "con-artist" if these slick chicks get paid off just ONE time to just sit around on the sofa and get drunk and dance off your dime guess what? They will do it again and again why should they stop?
When I see a chick walking around with a pack of chicks that are looking and hunting around for a simp or a easy mark or a push over or whatever you want to call him "STAY AWAY FROM HER" no matter how round or Phat her Bunda looks LOL
I mostly only like to deal with a girl that is standing or sitting alone by herself either in the termas or in Club Help those are the ones that are their to get her paper and get paid and isn't looking for any problems.
I really think we need a thread just to post pictures of these "users" these "con-artists" chicks now to stop a monger from just posting some random chick that he fell in love with and later he found out she also was getting money wire by other "Capt save a hoe" mongers.
If two or three or more Senior mongers mongers also say they had the same chick try to rip them off, then she should be outed as a con-artist.
Kid Cisco
Yeah, that is Flavia aka "flava flav" (thats what she calls herself sometimes) on the right. She has been whoring FOREVER. That being said, I have fucked her. It was great, think I payed about R150. Funny part is she is REALLY fucking cool. I just had one issue with her, but once I sternly let her know what was up, we were back to normal. Honestly she is probably one of the better fucks I have had in Rio...Now if she could only do something about her teeth!
FREE
I have been a very big HELP sipporter, but after going there last Friday, I would have to say. its time to shut the doors. Like all the post before mine, the girls are week and think to much of themselves. The music is catered to the EUROS, and they are out there dancing with each other, holding hands,touching, and almost kissing, and I am talking about the dudes doing this to each other. I was told the DJ there is gay, and that has alot to do with the selection of music.
So, I for one will not miss HELP like I thought I would and also, I now alot of people dont agree, but BALCONEY is getting better, with a wider selection and better music.
Chris H
SlimHoleDrill
12-01-09, 22:57
EA. thanks for the legal stuff. As we all know, there's the law and then there is reality, in every country. The reason we are discussing this (or at least my reason) is not that some change in the law will shut things down. It's just so entertaining in Brasil. Of course, Termas are illegal but they stay open because they make payoffs. When they do raid them it is because of some disagreement on the payoffs.
So, what is bad is some sort of turmoil where nobody knows the rules. That could happen with these changes in the law. One thing for sure is that nobody but the mongers want them to be legal. So eventually this will get sorted out and probably go back to business as usual.
The termas owners won't rock the boat because the illegal thing is a barrier to entry for competition I have a lawyer friend who says there will eventually be a court case to decide it. Fine, as long as it does not involve me!
I know who you are talking about when you mention the Argentinian. We did talk to her for a little while, and she did seem to be a nice girl, did you take her to your apt?
No, I did not take her.
Jamaicanceo
12-02-09, 02:11
That is really some funny shit, because a few years back my dad fucked the one in the middle for R$20. He picked her up from Meia Pataca and offered her R$1/minute for 20 minutes. And if I had time to dig out the photos to prove it I would. The girl on the right is of course Flavia from Rocinha. Although I have never fucked her I am pretty cool with her. The one on the left I have never seen in my life. They must have seen sucker written across you guys' foreheads.They may have seen whatever they want, but I don't pickup Help or Meia Pataca women. I deal with either a non-pro or a terma girl. I find regular girls anywhere a van, bus, metro or my feet takes me. The benefit of terma girls is that its business there, or personal if she comes to you apartment. Their attitudes are usually better and they are cleaner.
But I was at Help because I was the wingman. My friend is hooked on one of Renata's girlfriends. Big mistake on his part but he has to learn the hard way. But I tagged along to make sure he left early enough for his new job in Rio the next morning. I've never ordered a whiskey bottle and red bull because I usually buy my drinks from the window, if I go into Help at all. For the record, like my trip last month, I didn't bang not one Help or Meia Pataca girl.
In fact, I met some friends at Meia Pataca, and some girls bellied up to the table. I purchased a drink for the girl who helped me get my CPF number and that's it. But when my bill came there were 3 caipirinhas, chopa and cheese fries that I didn't order. The other girls thought I was treating them, but I had the waiter to take that their crap off my bill. THEY had to scratch up some cash. So they may see sucker on my forehead, but I don't mess with broke, stinky and c-sectioned Atlantica chicks. Even on the beach.
The chick in the middle asked if I want to take her to my apartment for R400.00. I quickly responded "hell no"! She said, "ok you go home without me, but you must give me R200.00, because I partied with you. " 8-0
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The blonde girl is Renata! She has a pretty face and a very nice full round plump ass! (on a side note, her mother works in help from time to time as well. I have thought about finally doing that Mother/Daughter combo fantasy I have had) I am surprised that Renata did that to you, she is normaly really cool, maybe because she was drunk off her ass. I have never been with her because she has a bad reputation of being a bad fuck. I few guys told me she is horrible in bed, also I noticed that I have NEVER seen anyone take her twice, so that lets me know that the rumors are true.
Member #3439
12-02-09, 04:20
I have mongered all over Latin America and can vouch for the fact that there are many places where you can quality girls and excellent service for a fraction of what people seem to be paying in Rio: Costa Rica, Colombia, and, especially cheap, Ecuador, El Salvador, Uruguay, and Paraguay (absolutely the cheapest, but hard to get to). True, none of these places are as attractive as Rio and don't have the same amenities, but if you have already sampled what Rio has to offer and are just looking for pussy, I recommend trying these other venues. Even Buenos Aires, although not exactly cheap, might provide a balance between a cosmopolitan atmosphere and reasonable prices.
Lorenzo
I had the same thought..and that next time I would go to Buenos Aires for something different and cheaper. I did some investigating of BA lodging and found it comparable to Copa Premier or Atlantico. I checked Argentina Private and found the prices at places like Madahos to be similiar to Centro casa pricing. Then TJ started posting and reminds me of the $1R/minuto girls at BA85 and similar. At this point I don't see how Buenos Aires has any advantage over Rio Centro.
That being said..I am still considering spending only a couple days in Rio next time and diverting to elsewhere in Brasil, like Maceio, if that might be cheaper. I remember that one of the guys here on the Rio thread recently had a good time in Maceio on a small amount of money.
The real catch is that I get 95% good service in Rio and Sao Paulo, with CIM and anal when I don't even ask for it. It's hard to try something new where the service may not be so good. If I got to Macieo or Porto Alegre or one of the spanish-speaking countries and found that the service was all CBJ like most of the places in Japan, I would literally have a break down due to knowing what I missed in Rio or SP simply to save a few bucks.
Jamaicanceo
12-02-09, 04:45
Yeah, that is Flavia aka "flava flav" (thats what she calls herself sometimes) on the right. She has been whoring FOREVER. That being said, I have fucked her. It was great, think I payed about R150. Funny part is she is REALLY fucking cool. I just had one issue with her, but once I sternly let her know what was up, we were back to normal. Honestly she is probably one of the better fucks I have had in Rio. Now if she could only do something about her teeth!
FREETo give Flav credit, she was cool. She and I laughed hard when Renata tried to talk shit. Everytime Renata said something I would mock her by repeating what she said and Renata and I wold laugh, because Renata was speaking bullshit. But I considered her guilty by association to warn other mongers. And her body was tight but her teeth looks like she chews rocks. And she has a sexy voice.
Jamaicanceo
12-02-09, 04:47
The blonde girl is Renata! She has a pretty face and a very nice full round plump ass! (on a side note, her mother works in help from time to time as well. I have thought about finally doing that Mother/Daughter combo fantasy I have had) I am surprised that Renata did that to you, she is normaly really cool, maybe because she was drunk off her ass. I have never been with her because she has a bad reputation of being a bad fuck. I few guys told me she is horrible in bed, also I noticed that I have NEVER seen anyone take her twice, so that lets me know that the rumors are true.And when i complained about the cigarettes because I don't some, the guys in the kitchen with the cash register said "cigarettes Renata. Renata looks like a has been. Her hands look like a middle aged woman.
... but I don't mess with broke, stinky and c-sectioned Atlantica chicks. Too f'ing funny
Smooth Slim
12-03-09, 03:28
The first thing he did was plop down on the couch/bench. They did not go up any further than floor 1 and it was obvious that he was very out of breath.
Plus, the girls were all laughing and nervously trying to get out of the sight of all three of them. These were REALLY big dudes!
I bet the guys left ba 85 for a more expensive enviroment, such as 4x4.
I, too, wondered how he got up the stairs but given the big commotion they made upon entering I will bet they stopped traffic for awhile.
To be honest I was glad when they left. I felt the way I did in college when we would be at a party having a good time and then some football players would show up being loud. For some reason these types of guys tend to have the attitude that they should always be the center of attention.
Sure enough today as soon as they got to floor one, pne of the big dudes turned around, pointed his gigantic butt at the girls sitting down and starting booty shaking. Most of the girls got up and that is what left the seat open for the biggest of the group.
The remainder of the time they were talking loud, in English, about I heard this place. And heard the girls.
TijuanaI was there when the three walked in. It was obvious that they had never been to BA 85 before. They stayed less than five minutes and didn't go above the first floor. They were polite, looked around. They were not loud, and yes they spoke English as they were talking to each other. If it had not been for there size. And yes they were large, and could be mistaken for football players. They probably would not have been noticed. It was the size of the men that had the girls giggling. It was not a sight they were use to seeing.
Sunset Strip
12-03-09, 07:29
I was there when the three walked in. It was obvious that they had never been to BA 85 before. They stayed less than five minutes and didn't go above the first floor. They were polite, looked around. They were not loud, and yes they spoke English as they were talking to each other. If it had not been for there size. And yes they were large, and could be mistaken for football players. They probably would not have been noticed. It was the size of the men that had the girls giggling. It was not a sight they were use to seeing.
1. I actually spoke to 2 of the girls who confirmed what I said.
2. I did not list a time, so I am unsure how you know when I was there.
3. I came in the next day and actually saw another group of big dudes, so it is not uncommon for them to go to BA 85; there is no law against it. Thus, I am again unsure that you were there when I was there.
4. I heard one of the guys make a comment to the effect that he had been there previously.
5. I heard every word they said over the loud music, thus they were speaking loud.
6. I think you have a slight comprehension issue. Obviously, my post implies that the size of the men was an issue. Why would you repeat the same thing?
You are a Very strange person!
Last, if you were in BA 85, where the HELL are your trip reports?
Sorry, but I do not believe a thing you said! LOL!
And to set the record straight, this is the second time you tried to flame me. Anytime you want to get together just let me know.
You have 22 posts and not 1 trip report. I believe you are a liar, loser, and lame. Please quit trolling and get some women and report.
TJ
Sunset Strip
12-03-09, 07:49
Lorenzo, this poser, Funk, probably has never been to Brasil. And I'm sure he could not get a decent girl to put up with is ignorant, small minded self. He is just looking for attention.
Again, thanks for your report. It reminds us how far some girls will go to keep their claws into a guy they know is good.
Funk, show us how ignorant and petty some guys can be.
Come to think of it, Auda and Funk would make a nice couple.
I'm finished with this fool.
Only 22 posts, 0 trip reports but lots of flaming.
Why don't YOU actually contribute beyond talking crap...
Jackson should take note, guys like this guy are the reason many of us stop posting on this site. They just sit around playing with themselves worrying about others posts.
trick
TJ
Hi guys!
I will be in Rio from December to March and I will organize some semi-private stag parties. I am always looking for appropriate locations which must be able to give room to at least 12 people and have some soft flooring (thick carpet, ...) of at least 3x3m. A really oversized bed would do as well and a gym with sports mats would also be o.k.
I am looking forward to hearing from you
Jo
Sunset Strip
12-03-09, 17:44
I was there when the three walked in. It was obvious that they had never been to BA 85 before. They stayed less than five minutes and didn't go above the first floor. They were polite, looked around. They were not loud, and yes they spoke English as they were talking to each other. If it had not been for there size. And yes they were large, and could be mistaken for football players. They probably would not have been noticed. It was the size of the men that had the girls giggling. It was not a sight they were use to seeing.
Icebutt Slim:
Care to add some actual information that has nothing to do with my trip report? I doubt you were really there for three reasons:
1. It is too much of a coincidence that a guy who flamed me a few months ago is in the same casa, same floor, at the same time as the one he flamed. Plus, it was fairly early!
2. Your reply was way too general and only restated what I said. If you had only added some information it might have been believable!
3. When I said BA85 was gringoized I was joking. It is still unusual to see gringo mongers there let alone be in there with a flamer like you on the same floor early in the morning! I think you took the bait and believed BA85 was like Meia Pataca and that you could just claim to have been there! NOT!
Perhaps we should have a trip reports for beginner's class!
OK, Icebutt Slim:
1. When did you arrive in Rio?
2. How did you get to BA 85?
3. What floors did you visit?
4. How many girls on each floor? What were their names?
5. Which girls did you session with?
6. How much did you pay?
P.S.
It is 8:37pm PST and I see you are online Icebutt Slim. Why not tell us of your adventures in BA 85? You could always look at my posts again and perhaps the pictures posted by Chris. and make up another story about being there! LOL!
TJ
TJ, your response to Smooth Slim is quite understandable, especially as you have been the butt of his attacks. But you know the old saying, 'don't feed the trolls . . .' ;)
Slim - on a personal note, I don't require proof or even graphic accounts. But since you are someone who has (in your words), 'been to Rio about 20 times since 2002,' a report of some kind would be quite nice don't you think?
It can all seem a bit blasé if you have read all the reports and feel there is not much new to add when you visit somewhere yet again. I personally don't need to have graphic accounts of people's action, though many forum members do enjoy this, and it gives flavour.
Can I suggest you put in at least one report. The things I like to know are where, when, how much you paid, the services offered, and whether you felt it was good value for money. Maybe throw in some small recognisable details about the location that have not been mentioned before - this, for me, not only adds some colour, but for others as well it shows you were actually there, which is a reasonable enough thing to want. Describing, for instance, the less-than-obvious shower facilities is both more helpful and more convincing than saying you happened to see a celebrity in Help, or that you saw people of a certain description in BA.
The purpose of the forum after all, is to help one another. Chat is nice. But it is sometimes a good idea to ask before posting, 'How will this post I'm making help other mongers?' I'm not being antagonistic. And writing is not everyone's forté, much less writing technicolor descriptions in porn style. But a small contribution of some kind, as opposed to a comment, would be reasonable wouldn't you say?
Since BA85 is the topic, here's some pics that illustrate the abyss of difference between the 2nd floor and the other floors.
The 'lens flare' effect on the second floor photos (the 2 on the left) is added affectionately to protect her identity, but the photos were taken in almost complete darkness (light bulbs being frequently outside the budget apparently). The flash of the camera illuminates the graffitied, makeshift walls.
Compare that to the properly lit, nice panelled cubicles of the 1st and 4th floors. They are not 4x4 standards or anything - the sessions are less than a tenth of the price of that establishment - but there is world of difference between them and those of the 2nd floor.
Asked why she chose to work on the 2nd the well-discussed 'R' told me that it was a quick turnover. She made more money. Who wants to hang about in such a cubicle??
There is rarely a difference in price between the floors. Maybe 5R at the most. Or you maybe get quoted different minimum session times (anything from 10mins up, with the fee adjusted proportionately).
apologies if I may have posted some of these before - just for the bunda
Jamaicanceo
12-03-09, 20:17
I know these 3 girls that I've banged on previous trips. Each sends me emails on how much they love me and other gdp bullshit that I play on until my next trip to Rio. So the send me these posing photos. And in each photo there is the same front door, mirror and furniture. So I would ask each in whose apartment were their photos taken, and they would claim theirs. So I would as each he other's name and they claim to not know the names (until you visually see a Brazil ID don't believe a garota's name) of the other, but their girlfriend took the picture. Liars, liars, liars. I've banged a morena named Beth who is a great freak, early 30ish, and low key. You will find her in front of Help. She sent me photos and I thought "how sweet."
Then I met an American staying in my building who invited me to his apartment, and he was showing me photos of girls he took and I saw girls I've been with. Then I saw the picture Beth sent me. Guess what, he took the original and she sends them to her mongering friends "Amor, I miss you."!!! But Beth does completa, makes a lot of noise, will wipe you down with a hot towel, all for $200.00. And she leaves at 7 am.
Funny though, the guy has been going to Rio for 15 years, alaways gets the same apartment next to Meia Pataca on a top floor, and he sits in his window with field glasses. He has never been to Help or Meia Pataca, because he says it's to close to his apartment. But he took me to my first trip to Balcony in May 2009. We pulled two gdps that both we paid R150.00 each.
Back to the posted photos. You will find these girls either on the beach, Meia Pataca or Help, and they will all start at R400.00 but I got them down to R200.00 for 2 orgasms not all night, BECAUSE I don't want them in my way the next day. These girls will come down in price. No money up front. And if you get R200.00 to include completa, tell them R50 for BBBJ, R50 pussy, R50 for anal and R50 for cab. If they back out of one then you minus R50 just in case they back out of anal.
For the new ISG mongers, play the girls' lies in your favor. When I get back to Rio in a couple months our sooner, I will use these photos to get these girls in a bargain bind to get them for almost nothing. They want the gfe experience. Like Reagan told the Russians, "trust but verify (all information)."
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Jamaicanceo
12-03-09, 20:21
Other Photos
Jamaicanceo
12-03-09, 20:28
Last Post Photos
Hey Chris the 4th floor is very nice, does she really work in BA85 or is this a photo from 4x4 ? ;)
The only time I was there no nice girls, according to my tastes, but after I saw your photos....well....next time I will stop there for sure, at least to report to you guys here :D
Thanks for sharing the pictures
Hey Chris the 4th floor is very nice, does she really work in BA85 or is this a photo from 4x4 ? ;)
The only time I was there no nice girls, according to my tastes, but after I saw your photos....well....next time I will stop there for sure, at least to report to you guys here :D
Thanks for sharing the pictures
Yes, 3rd pic from left is Paloma on the 4th floor bar. The blonde girl is Patricia on the 1st floor bar. All BA85. But as I'm sure you know, there's very little that's certain, even from day to day. I usually try to give it a couple of sweeps. The good ones might be working or not on at the time and day I happen to be there. So much luck involved. I've rarely been lucky on the 1st floor, but scored on the 4th quite a few times. Then it's salgados and Casarao or somewhere.
I have mongered all over Latin America and can vouch for the fact that there are many places where you can quality girls and excellent service for a fraction of what people seem to be paying in Rio: Costa Rica, Colombia, and, especially cheap, Ecuador, El Salvador, Uruguay, and Paraguay (absolutely the cheapest, but hard to get to). True, none of these places are as attractive as Rio and don't have the same amenities, but if you have already sampled what Rio has to offer and are just looking for pussy, I recommend trying these other venues. Even Buenos Aires, although not exactly cheap, might provide a balance between a cosmopolitan atmosphere and reasonable prices.
I had the same thought..and that next time I would go to Buenos Aires for something different and cheaper. I did some investigating of BA lodging and found it comparable to Copa Premier or Atlantico. I checked Argentina Private and found the prices at places like Madahos to be similiar to Centro casa pricing. Then TJ started posting and reminds me of the $1R/minuto girls at BA85 and similar. At this point I don't see how Buenos Aires has any advantage over Rio Centro.
That being said..I am still considering spending only a couple days in Rio next time and diverting to elsewhere in Brasil, like Maceio, if that might be cheaper. I remember that one of the guys here on the Rio thread recently had a good time in Maceio on a small amount of money.
The real catch is that I get 95% good service in Rio and Sao Paulo, with CIM and anal when I don't even ask for it. It's hard to try something new where the service may not be so good. If I got to Macieo or Porto Alegre or one of the spanish-speaking countries and found that the service was all CBJ like most of the places in Japan, I would literally have a break down due to knowing what I missed in Rio or SP simply to save a few bucks.
ok BA85 (around R30 max / US$17 / UK£10), is cheap and not really luxurious (and 15 or 20R is common as well). But I've had awesome overnighters for R100-R120 this year. There's plenty of style in BsAs, but I'd welcome a simple guide to getting my rocks off in a friendly smiling manner for around US$10, or a memorable all-night-and-again-in-the-morning shag-of-one's-life for under US$70 there. I can't see it, but I'm open to learning and landing there briefly in a few weeks or so. (Yeah, I know RTFF for BsAs but it's harder work than even this one, and my bottom line is it hasn't changed that much since I was there last time - at least in terms of pussy-to-the-£.)
Uruguay is a tolerable place for encounters, but hardly anything earth moving. And Maceio and Porto Allegre are hardly on the map. Like Montevideo, you search the classifieds and find something-for-the-weekend. But they are not exactly the Disneyland of pussyplay are they?
I think it's pretty hard to sample all of what Rio has to offer, even in a lifetime. Whereas I'd visit Paraguay in the hope I didn't get into any major trouble inbetween some cheap chuwawa. You have to go looking for it in practically all these places. Im Rio, you only have to look to make the game more fun. You could literally be the biggest, fattest, loudmouthed, overweight, unwashed, pox-ridden slob and do nothing except waddle down to the beach and some fannies would still line up to service you. ;) ;) ;)
Member #3439
12-04-09, 05:39
Christopherd,
Thanks for the insight and keeping me from running astray from Brasil. You make a good point, mongering in Rio is so easy. The guys over at Argentina Private put up a lot of good information but, even with that, BsAs still seems like a tougher place to navigate for pussy. In Rio, we have limitless options just a short bus or metro ride away. Disney for lechers, as you alluded.
Hi guys!
I will be in Rio from December to March and I will organize some semi-private stag parties. I am always looking for appropriate locations which must be able to give room to at least 12 people and have some soft flooring (thick carpet, ...) of at least 3x3m. A really oversized bed would do as well and a gym with sports mats would also be o.k.
I am looking forward to hearing from you
Jo
Jo,
Google for "Bwana dik's rio guide." It lists love motels.
Smooth Slim
12-04-09, 06:33
Tijuana, your response to Smooth Slim is quite understandable, especially as you have been the butt of his attacks. But you know the old saying, 'don't feed the trolls... '.
Slim. On a personal note, I don't require proof or even graphic accounts. But since you are someone who has (in your words), 'been to Rio about 20 times since 2002, ' a report of some kind would be quite nice don't you think?
It can all seem a bit blasé if you have read all the reports and feel there is not much new to add when you visit somewhere yet again. I personally don't need to have graphic accounts of people's action, though many forum members do enjoy this, and it gives flavour.
Can I suggest you put in at least one report. The things I like to know are where, when, how much you paid, the services offered, and whether you felt it was good value for money. Maybe throw in some small recognisable details about the location that have not been mentioned before. This, for me, not only adds some colour, but for others as well it shows you were actually there, which is a reasonable enough thing to want. Describing, for instance, the less-than-obvious shower facilities is both more helpful and more convincing than saying you happened to see a celebrity in Help, or that you saw people of a certain description in BA.
The purpose of the forum after all, is to help one another. Chat is nice. But it is sometimes a good idea to ask before posting, 'How will this post I'm making help other mongers? ' I'm not being antagonistic. And writing is not everyone's forté, much less writing technicolor descriptions in porn style. But a small contribution of some kind, as opposed to a comment, would be reasonable wouldn't you say?Thanks for your measured response. My post was not a flame or an attack on Tijuana. I have not attacked him ever. In fact when he thought I attacked him previously, I was clear in explaining the rationale for my post and apologized for the misunderstanding. Sent him a private PM which he sought to ignore. His right. Changed my name because he had a point that it could be considered offensive. I'm not a person who just reads the site to flame people. Quite the opposite. Read my few posts and you will see that they are trying to be helpful or stating my thoughts on a post. I don't do it in a flaming or inconsiderate manner. In other post in other threads my posts have been one offering answers to questions posed. Read the posts and you will see I'm far from a troll.
The latest post was simply to state what I saw. Yes, I was there and can give more detail on that day that can be easily verified by Tijuana's sources. The three men that walked in came at a time when the workers were ferrying supplies up the staircase and the elevator shaft to the facility. It made the already small stairway crowded. Two of the men carried backpacks with them. And as someone stated, "they probably went to 4x4 after they left", that too is correct, because I went to 4x4 myself and saw them there.
Some people posts their experiences and find joy in it. If I can give info that I believe will be helpful I will post. I read the forum and have found it very useful. I have stated my opinion on Help, thought it was offered a good alternative for those who like to party and check out a different aspect of the mongering scene.
I was in Rio Thanksgiving week and visited 4X4, Solarium, MC, Luomo, Centaurus and Help. Hung out in Lapa at Circo Voador and Estrela da Lapa. Help is a former shell of itself and has outlived it's usefulness. I had to laugh and agree with the comment by one poster that at times there were more European men dancing on floor by themselves then with women. I didn't take one woman from Help this trip. All of my action came in the termas, with terma girls back at my apartment and with independents that I have maintained a relationship with during my trips and I generally see when I am in Brasil.
A first time poster Galvin said he had a great time in Luomo, but I found it to be a significant fall off from its glory days. They have placed a TV in the boite and a glass door which is strange. Doris, formerly of Solarium, is no longer at Luomo. Neither is her sister. I hear Doris is now at 65. Ingrid was not there the entire week of Thanksgiving. Another sister duo who use to work at Luomo is now at Centaurus. The sweetest person in Luomo is Rubi and many of her friends have left her for other termas. All of this can be verified by folks familiar with the terma scene.
Centaurus by my account remains is the creme de la creme with 4x4 and Solarium tied for second. MC has several girls formerly of Luomos and Solarium. I have found that girls are doing more terma hopping. In the week that I was there a beautiful shapely brunette who worked in 4x4, sorry didn't get her name, was working in Centaurus by the end of the week.
Thought about going to Black and White, but didn't get around to it. Couldn't find a number, but was told by a Brasilian friend that it the same as 4x4 and I would mostly be the only gringo in the joint if I went. He recommended it saying 4X4 style without the price. Even my Brasilian friend couldn't find a number for the place.
The crowds were down overall from when I first started going to Rio. Very light on American and Europeans. At TA there were very few women on the hedge rows and it was easy to find a table. Same for MP. The girls of Help were asking ridiculous prices. Starting at 400 and in many cases not wanting to go below 300. And yes all termas have raised their prices.
Again, I don't post a lot because much of what I would post would simply echo some of what has been posted. Another reason I don't post is because some on this forum are so judgmental and belittling of people who ask for information.
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Smooth Slim
12-04-09, 07:33
1. I actually spoke to 2 of the girls who confirmed what I said.
2. I did not list a time, so I am unsure how you know when I was there.
3. I came in the next day and actually saw another group of big dudes, so it is not uncommon for them to go to BA 85; there is no law against it. Thus, I am again unsure that you were there when I was there.
4. I heard one of the guys make a comment to the effect that he had been there previously.
5. I heard every word they said over the loud music, thus they were speaking loud.
6. I think you have a slight comprehension issue. Obviously, my post implies that the size of the men was an issue. Why would you repeat the same thing?
You are a Very strange person!
Last, if you were in BA 85, where the HELL are your trip reports?
Sorry, but I do not believe a thing you said! LOL!
And to set the record straight, this is the second time you tried to flame me. Anytime you want to get together just let me know.
You have 22 posts and not 1 trip report. I believe you are a liar, loser, and lame. Please quit trolling and get some women and report.
TijuanaIt is not a flame. Just commenting on what I witnessed. The day was Thanksgiving, Nov. 26 at about 1:45 pm Maybe we are talking about two different days. Maybe big guys are a common sight in BA 85 I wouldn't know, because I have only been there a couple of times. I was amazed when I saw the three black men because it is not a common sight even in the USA unless you are talking to athletes. Again, two of the men were carrying backpacks. I later saw them in 4x4 hanging with a white guy. I introduce myself and said I saw them at BA 85 earlier. They laugh about the tight fit. Three of them were from the West Coast and one from the East Coast.
When you say cheap does that mean it has rats and roaches running around?
There can be roaches, even though not very common.
Rats? Yes, the size of large cats and they'll bite you in the balls.
Seriously, your major concern should be that the sheet is clean enough and that you don't put your hands in any used condoms.
I think it's pretty hard to sample all of what Rio has to offer, even in a lifetime. ... In Rio, you only have to look to make the game more fun. You could literally be the biggest, fattest, loudmouthed, overweight, unwashed, pox-ridden slob and do nothing except waddle down to the beach and some fannies would still line up to service you. ;) ;) ;)Some of you guys really have a gift of prose. Particularly like the use of the word "waddle".
Had a great session yesterday with Adrianna Porto, a mulata from KM. Very cute and spunky. Highly recommended:
Beijos: SIM! Great kisser. Passionate, one of the best kissers!
Oral: Sim. With CIM. Although later she said she rarely does. At least fro free.
Anal: Sim. Once we got going it was really robust. I am not a big fan of anal but her little dance she was doing backing into me just lead us into it.
Her website pictures do her justice. I found her face to be very cute, with a great contagious smile. She is short 5'2" mayB. I am always amazed how small they are compared to their photos. But I am a tall guy. And she has been studying English so we had terrific conversations even with my starter Porto.
Face: 8
Body: 8. 5
Attitude: 10
Enjoys Sex: 10
Kissing: 11+
She brought the KM face book and took me through it. Giving me her insights.
Overall impression: things are looking up at KM. Nicer faces then 10 months ago when I last saw the book. Highlights:
Malu (new): smoking hot beauty. Beautiful face. I suspect she will not be there long. I am going to TD her today.
Pamela Winston: sexy and Adrianna's dupla partner.
Vivian: very cute
Nikki: very cute. But has a kid and does not go topless in photos (assume saggy tits)
Great There was a mix-up at my hotel and they lost my.
Jamaicanceo
12-04-09, 18:43
A. I didn't take one woman from Help this trip. All of my action came in the termas, with terma girls back at my apartment and with independents that I have maintained a relationship.
B. The girls of Help, MP and the beach were asking ridiculous prices. Starting at 400 and in many cases not wanting to go below 300.There are smaller clubs popping up downtown. I've been to a place called Club 21 on my last visit. I went in looked and looked around. It was kind of dark so I left. It costed me about R12. 00 to do that. Went to 4x4 instead.
But most of the girls at the termas seem to be partying amongst them selves. Big advice, don't by them drinks. Some of the girls may be Copa girls or party with Copa girls and have begging manners to pad your tab.
I use to bang Luomo's tall Shayla there and my apartment. She's gone too.
I think these are strong points on Slim's above, A and B.
Bdonkadonk
12-05-09, 01:11
Thought about going to Black and White, but didn't get around to it. Couldn't find a number, but was told by a Brasilian friend that it the same as 4x4 and I would mostly be the only gringo in the joint if I went. He recommended it saying 4X4 style without the price. Even my Brasilian friend couldn't find a number for the place.
Again, I don't post a lot because much of what I would post would simply echo some of what has been posted. Another reason I don't post is because some on this forum are so judgmental and belittling of people who ask for information.
Thanks for trying to find that number to B&W! You said a couple of weeks ago that you would try to find it, and I appreciate your effort.
A general observation from me is that flaming happens very easily on the forum, and I think it´s sad. Some people get angry for very little reason and it brings a bad mood to the discussions. I was questioned myself a couple of weeks ago when I was asking some questions, and I find myself thinking twice to post again.
Smooth Slim
12-05-09, 05:07
Thanks for trying to find that number to B&W! You said a couple of weeks ago that you would try to find it, and I appreciate your effort.
A general observation from me is that flaming happens very easily on the forum, and I think it's sad. Some people get angry for very little reason and it brings a bad mood to the discussions. I was questioned myself a couple of weeks ago when I was asking some questions, and I find myself thinking twice to post again.No problem Bdonkadonk. I will be back in Rio later this month. I will make a point of going to B&W just to get that number. And to check out the scene. It is the least I can do.
Slim
Jamaicanceo
12-05-09, 08:45
Do anyone know these current Help regulars in the attached photo?
Thanks for trying to find that number to B&W! You said a couple of weeks ago that you would try to find it, and I appreciate your effort.
A general observation from me is that flaming happens very easily on the forum, and I think it´s sad. Some people get angry for very little reason and it brings a bad mood to the discussions. I was questioned myself a couple of weeks ago when I was asking some questions, and I find myself thinking twice to post again.I'donk: I disagree that people here get angry and flame very easily. There are many guys here that have been contributing great FREE advice on their time for years (not me - I am a relative newbie that has benefitted greatly from this advice.) They are very patient and kind in answering questions and trying to be helpful. I certainly understand the frustration they have from constant newbies coming on here and asking entry level questions without doing any legwork. You know - the posts that start with "In Rio next week, need a girl friendly hotel, any suggestions? What do garotas cost? Where is the best place to date a non-pro?" By searching the archives and taking a few hours someone can learn a great deal about every aspect of Rio - not just mongering. They can garner the confidence and intelligence to really enjoy a first rate time in the Marvelous City.
Now that is not to say there are some disagreements and personalty clashes here. And I am guilty of some of those myself. But that is guys just being guys. But even those are entertaining as the guys are intelligent and sarcastic. You also see guys apologize for their dust-ups too. For the most part I have found the guys here very civil, very supportive and helpful.
I believe you are personally referring to the negative responses you received trying to secure a phone number and intelligence for the termas Black & White in your dogged pursuit of the porn star Luana. One guy here finally (after quite a few posts from you) suggested you simply go, find out and report back. And I and others concurred. Sometimes you have to take one for the team and contribute back. No hard feelings.
Been staying in Centro last two days. After my morning session with KM's Adrianna which I reported on below, I went to finally check into my hotel. (Note: They originally had a problem with my reservation at Ibis Hotel Centro and they were booked solid (with Brazilians coming in on a cruise ship layover) when I arrived for a pre-arranged early check-in (although not guaranteed). I am a member of their loyalty program and never had an issue, I actually find their staff very accomodating and friendly. And they all speak English even for a Centro hotel. So I left my bags and told them I would be back in a few hours rather than wait around and be frustrated. That is when I ventured over to the local Malaga Motel in Tijuca and sessioned with Adrianna from KM. Malaga is a basic, inexpensive hotel. Rooms were very clean with private baths. I paid R$48 for a Luxo for 4 hours. I ordered in Completo breakfast for both of us for R$18. Was very delicious with loads of great fresh fruit which I ended up taking with me and eating the remainder of the day. Motel staff does not speak a word of English and rarely sees gringos. Even better, when I got back to the Ibis they had sorted things out by sending a few guests coming in to their sister hotel near the SD airport. So I was all set and they comped me the breakfast and lunch buffets for the next few days. So that more than covered my Hotel Malaga tab. A good omen for the start of my trip. My lession I learned: when you are handed lemonades. Turn it into pussy suco! Seriously go with the flow rather than stand around being frustrated. I was able to quickly improvise because I was armed with great info from here and GPG.)
The balance of Friday and yesterday I decided to stick with my strategy of balancing my budget with cheap Centro casas, and inexpensive KM and Scort show sessions with some termas visits.
So after some emails and meetings. I decided to try some Centro casas Friday afternoon using Sperto's maps and some new reviews from gpguia. Now the best advice here is to visit these casas mid-morning before the lunch rush and the girls get tired. Sperto gave that great advice but my schedule did not allow. Note about me: I am sort of a neat and cleaniness freak. Over the years I have been able to somewhat lower my standards and my expectations of establishment standards in exchange for lower-cost pussy. But I need to feel comfortable and there is a treshold to how low my cleaniness standards with go. That is me. I would not feel comfortable sessioning at VM. That being said, Bellas Massagem (185 Rio Branco, Sala 725) had been getting great reviews on gpguia. In particularily, Milenna and Julianna from there were. So I visited. It is very small with small make-shift rooms that are closed off up to the ceiling. No surprise, Milenna and Julianna were busy and the 3 Garotas I was presented with were not to my liking. So I left. And the place had that funky incense masking smell. So as a control to see what Centro casas were like in the afternoon. I went upstairs to BelPrazer, sala 2114 as I had been there previously. I was presented with 15 ladies (included Karla who I had a great session with previously.) About half new faces from my previous trip a few weeks earlier. Mamasan (who speaks fluent English and actually really appreciated the business and recognized me) said she is always having ladies approach her to work there. I think it is because of the cleanliness and somewhat higher prices (R$80 for 40 minutes, R$100 for 1 hour, $160 duplo hour special). I like the place. It is pretty clean with sealed towels. I always am given a room with a shower (cool water. Not hot). This time the ladies seemed to be really auditioning for me. Perhaps Karla had mentioned our terrific previous session to them. It wasn; t a slow day as I saw the work sheet on Masasam's desk and some of the girls were pretty busy already. Using the intelligence I garnered from looking at Mamsam's log I decided to session with Alice (who had not sessioned yet as she arrived late.) Alice isn't a classic beauty but I was intrigued by her lean tall hard body. I had dated a hard body fitness freak before and you can have some great active sessions. She did not disappoint in that regard. It was a one-hour rumble and I was deternmined to win the match! Really great super tight body. R$100 / hr, in a clean, spacious room. I like BelPrazer.
Back to work and then a dinner meeting. I was going to call it a night but I was still restless and I kept looking at the Metro pass on my desk in my hotel. I decided to shower and headed to the Carioca Metro station. I decided to take the short trip to north one station to go to 4x4 or Cancun. Then. Standing on the platform. I impulsively decided to play Metro roulette. Whatever train came next I would take. The next train that came was headed to Zona Sul. So off I went on a semi crowded train for 9:00 at night. Lots of commuters got off at Botafogo as I understand this is becoming the hot area for urban professionals to live in. They are buying the older buildings with tall ceilings and fixing them up. Having totally handed my fate for the evening over to the transpotation gods. I decided to flip a coin (heads Luomo, talls Monte Carlo, and if the coin landed on end. Centaurus. Knowing full well that would not happen and I would not be forced to pay those outrageous prices and deal with their management.) Heads. Luomo. Great and convenient. Lots of guys coming out as I leaving. They were also buying Luomo tee shirts, robes by the gross. Hell, they should offer Luomo action figures. I was fearing a sausagefest. Went in, and decided to actually sit in the sauna for a bit. Felt great as I felt all the grime from the city ooze from my pours. A long hot shower and into the boite. My sausagefest fears were immediately put to rest. 30 ladies, a dozen guys. Within 5 seconds, Pietra (my tall crazy mulata pal) sees me and leaves the guy she was talking to at the bar and runs and almost knocks me over in an embrace and liplock. Honey. I'm Home! With her heels she is looking me directly in the eyes and I am 6'5". She looks better than ever. Yeah, still smoking and drinking like a maniac. But she was smoking hot. She goes to finish her conversation with the guy at the bar. I take my corner seat at the bar and say Hello, to Peter the bartender (he and Barry are the best bartender team in Rio). Grab a beer and immediately the 3 chicas next to me start asking me how I know Pietra, where I am from, etc. Lots of new faces, half of them pretty hot. Pietra finishes her conversation, comes over and tells me she wants me to eat her pussy tonight. I respond by telling her R$100 por favor. Special price for her. She hears her song come on (I told you she is manic right?) and says she'll dance for me. She runs up and jumps on the pole stage, aims her ass in my direction and pounds out the song. Saleswomen of the year. Comes back, pins me up against the wall and clears my throat with her tongue. Grabs my hand and slides it in her panties. She is dripping wet. "You want to eat and fuck me now? " I responded in my best Jackie Gleason: "hummana hummana". Hit the room, she kneels down and proceeds to deep throat me. She is great. 69, and then every position imaginable. Always finish with her on top pounding away. Our equipment just mesh real well. Hand in glove. A perfect fit you would say. 45 minutes in we are both wiped. We order some drinks into the room and catch up on our lives. Ain't no way I was going to function sexually for the rest of that night. She is manic and a real live wire. But I really dig that lady's company. And the sex with her is mind-blowing. At least for me it is. Shower. Look at my watch. And the transportation gods that brought me this memorable night have one more great gift for me: it is not midnight yet and I could catch the last train back to Centro. No taxi needed. Get back, grab a few beers, a water and Ruffles at the hotel lobby to bring to my room. Put on TV and watch Letterman rip Sarah Palin. I don't think he will be doing any Tiger Woods jokes soon. A great first day. And I got a fair amount of work done.
Smooth Slim
12-05-09, 18:44
I know these 3 girls that I've banged on previous trips. Each sends me emails on how much they love me and other gdp bullshit that I play on until my next trip to Rio. So the send me these posing photos. And in each photo there is the same front door, mirror and furniture. So I would ask each in whose apartment were their photos taken, and they would claim theirs. So I would as each he other's name and they claim to not know the names (until you visually see a Brazil ID don't believe a garota's name) of the other, but their girlfriend took the picture. Liars, liars, liars. I've banged a morena named Beth who is a great freak, early 30ish, and low key. You will find her in front of Help. She sent me photos and I thought "how sweet."
Then I met an American staying in my building who invited me to his apartment, and he was showing me photos of girls he took and I saw girls I've been with. Then I saw the picture Beth sent me. Guess what, he took the original and she sends them to her mongering friends "Amor, I miss you."!!! But Beth does completa, makes a lot of noise, will wipe you down with a hot towel, all for $200.00. And she leaves at 7 am.
Back to the posted photos. You will find these girls either on the beach, Meia Pataca or Help, and they will all start at R400.00 but I got them down to R200.00 for 2 orgasms not all night, BECAUSE I don't want them in my way the next day. These girls will come down in price. No money up front. And if you get R200.00 to include completa, tell them R50 for BBBJ, R50 pussy, R50 for anal and R50 for cab. If they back out of one then you minus R50 just in case they back out of anal.
For the new ISG mongers, play the girls' lies in your favor. When I get back to Rio in a couple months our sooner, I will use these photos to get these girls in a bargain bind to get them for almost nothing. They want the gfe experience. Like Reagan told the Russians, "trust but verify (all information)."
The picture you posted with this report.. I believe she nows works in Luomo. I saw a girl that looks strikingly similar to her there in November. Very friendly, very playful. I didn't session with her, but of the girls in the boite she exhibited the most energy. Again, I though Luomo had fallen off quite a bit, but I was struck by this beauty.
Jamaicanceo
12-05-09, 18:54
The picture you posted with this report.. I believe she nows works in Luomo. I saw a girl that looks strikingly similar to her there in November. Very friendly, very playful. I didn't session with her, but of the girls in the boite she exhibited the most energy. Again, I though Luomo had fallen off quite a bit, but I was struck by this beauty.The Copa termas girls and the Atlantica Av GDP action is the same to me. But the girls in Luomo beg for drinks more than those in other termas.
Jamaicanceo
12-05-09, 19:06
I was in terma Monte Carlo when the blackout hit Brazil. For what was suppose to be my last night of that trip in Rio, I was sitting in MC with my main Rio mentor when after a hour of trying to size up the right girl, the lights went out. We all sat in the dark for a while until the manager, nice guy and former US Navy serviceman, with hit staff told everyone the blackout is all over Rio and we're done for the night (not in English of course). But you get the hint when the girls started to leave the bar.
So the zoo started. No power for the credit card machines. They found some portable light but mainly flash lights were used, and they used a honor system to ask you your activity and drinks in order to charge you. It was a long sweaty process. I think each monger took 20 minutes to get out because the receptionists had to calculate charges and give change the old fashion way before termas used machines. I believe we all got charged entrance fee regardless of the blackout early out.
Yesterday, I was pressed for time with business in the day. I managed to clear up an hour at 10: 30 am and headed back to BelPrazer. It is close to me and I knew what to expect with only an hour free. Got there, only 4 ladies were in as it was raining and some of the ladies were late arriving. Met the 4 and choose Duda, a tall, cute 21 y/o with very pouty lips and f' me eyes. Spoke some English. I choose her because after she introduced herself to me she walked in the adjoining reception room with the Mamasan and I heard her whisper in Porto "he hasn't chosen yet. Has he? " I asked Mamasan to have her come back in to see me. And asked her if she was really in the mood to go with me. And she threw her arms around me and gave me a great DFK and said she woke up so horny. Upstairs to the largest room. As I was the only patron there it seemed (they open "around" 10.) Session was good. Not great (she seemed to be protective when on top as I am well-endowed and it took her a bit to get adjusted but she did get a groove going). And I just could not get off. I attribute this more to my late session the previous night with Pietra at Luomo which really drained me (and the two previous sessions that day.) Perhaps I should have taken the morning off. But it beat going to the gym to work-out. That's my rationale and I am sticking with it. Duda said she came twice and I believe it as her very sexy eyes rolled back in her head a few times and she was wet as could B. She was upset that I could not come in the 40 minutes (R$80) and asked if I wanted to continue for an hour. I told her I was tired and the extra 20 minutes weren't going to help. Plus I had to get back to work. She wasn't the best at BBBF so I figured I'd leave. But I do recommend BelPrazer as a great entry to Centro casas for guys looking to start venturing there. Especially since Mamasan speaks English and really seems to aim to please. It is also so easy to find very near the Metro Carioca station. You can venture from there to others and see what your threshold is for other cheaper (and possible less clean) places.
Worked all afternoon and did not give pussy a second thought (well I tried to block it as much as possible – it is just so hard with so many beautiful women everywhere one turns in Rio). At 5, I decided to grab some food and take the night off and just chill. 15 minutes later I was in the shower, grabbing my Metro pass and in the Carioca station playing Metro roulette again. I would take the next train that came. Norte and it would be 4X4 tonight. Again Zona Sul train was first. Off to Monte Carlo. Get there and the cute slim receptionist/cashier (I forget her name) with the curly hair stands up leans over and greets me with an enthusiastic hug and kiss on the cheek. She introduces me to the two ladies working with her as her "Amerioca friend". I ask what's the Amerioca special of the day and she said jokingly "whatever you'd like. " I got the wrist band number "69" my very first time there. It became a running joke and everytime after she tried to give it to me. But it was already handed out and I was starting to think that it might be a bad sign. Get up to the showers and there are 10 guys showering. Including a group of 6 middle aged black Amercian guys, some new guys with a few friends that were Rio veterans and were showing them the ropes. Having a great time busting on one another. First time I saw a line for a shower. Again thinking I should leave. But instead, I hit the sauna. First the dry sauna, and then the steam sauna. Hot as hell and could not see the hand in front of my face. But a great, relaxing 15 minutes. By then the shower room emptied out (and I am anticipating a bad ratio in the boite) and I take my shower. I am a tall guy and when I was standing under the shower head I guess some water was spraying out into the next stall. Some old Italian guy starts giving me hell shouting at me as he was trying to get into the shower in the next stall. So I start yelling back that "you are going into the shower anyway and are going to get wet anyway. Relax. " He gets louder and angrier and tell him to "Shut the f up old man. " He kept it up and started knocking on my glass shower door. So I actually opened my shower door and pointed my finger at his face and cursed him out in the only Porto I know. He decided to use the cold water shower on the other side. He stayed in there until I left the shower room. WTF!
Now I am totally thinking the boite is really going to suck. And I head up. 25 guys in the boite and whiskeria and 4 girls. F' ME! I was going to turn tail and head out and admit I tempted fate one too many times. But then a young garota with a big ass, silicon tits and braces on her teeth recognizes me from my last visit (Luciana or something like that). She was the garota that immediately sat on my lap my last time there a few weeks back and was hassling me for a session. I kept telling her I was simply looking to relax for a bit and she kept at it and grinding her ass in my lap. When she kept asking me what I thought of her – I finally had enough and told I honestly found her ordinary and that big asses and silicon tits ain't my thing. She pouted, got angry and sulked and shot me nasty looks from across the room while I entertained myself with another lady later. So, she recognizes me and I'm thinking to myself that tonight is just going to get worse and she is going to start blasting me. Turns out she hugs me and kisses me and apologizes for hassling me the last time. I said thank you and offered her a drink as a sign of no hard feelings. She only goes for some suco and shared it with me (no alcohol). Peach, delicious. So I start asking her what is going on, where's all the ladies and she doesn't know. Meanwhile more guys and a group of Italian guys enter. It a sea of white robes sitting on all the seats and standing. I tell her she should go and mingle that I would think the odds were definitely in her favor, but she just wants to hang out. Talk about a lack of sales skills. I am finishing my beer and figuring I will head out when I look up and see 2 more ladies, then 4 more, then 8 more. I figured they bussed a bunch in from Rent-A-Garota. The ratio was getting better by the second. The room basically did a 180 turn in 10 minutes. I never witnessed such a thing. It was crowded and approaching an even ratio and I looked across the room and see this very tall, attractive lady standing by herself at the back of the boite. I asked Luciana who that was and she immediately goes across the room and brings her to me. Flavia, tall, long brown hair, tan and lean, hard and natural body. 28 y/o. I thank Luciana and she said we are even and goes to entertain the middle aged guys that were clowning around in the shower room. I believe she ended up sessioning with one of them.
I ask Flavia what is up and she tells me she is somewhat shy about auditioning in the boite. I laugh and she says she is serious – but aggressive in the cabine. I said she was playing me. She kept insisting – so whatever. We start talking, she's been there 2 years, occasionally does Help, knows Pietra and actually heard of me from Pietra. Within 2 minutes leans in and tells me her real name. I found her very interesting and we had a great comfortable conversation. She is very beautiful and has a calm demeanor. Almost too calm I tell her – buy she kept insisting she was a tigeress upstairs. I told her there was a no refund policy and I just wasn't too convinced and she then aggressively DFK's me, reaches into my robe and starts stroking me off. I return the favor and slip my fingers into her panties. I could tell she had one of those beautifully shaped, little lips, tight pussies (at least to my preference – not big meaty lips.) Sensing she still needed to convince me she whispered that she will rock my world in just 40 minutes (something to that effect.) I asked her if she wanted a drink to take to the room and she declined – that she wanted to get headed upstairs. She wasn't hard selling an hour, didn't milk me for drinks, and seemed eager to convince me that she was my girl. I found her to be model gorgeous. So, I decided that I was in.
First she comes out on a blue teddy with baby blue lace and said she wanted to match my eyes. (my blue eyes do seem to open up some conversations as they are somewhat rarer.) Legs up to there and a solid shapely ass. I am following her up the stairs to the smaller rooms (only 40 minute session) and enjoying the view. Never been in a small room there as all my sessions were an hour or a dupla. I make a comment that our feet will be on the wall when we fuck and she said "good it will help give you power. " I am liking this lady more and more by the minute. If she keeps it up – I am introducing her to my Mom. We start making out standing against the wall. With her heels on she is almost as tall as me. Great body, great firm natural tits. She grabs my cock and is rubbing it against her clit a fever pitch. It was one of those moments where you start thinking about bareback and really have to talk yourself out of it. I am not saying she would do it – but I as feeling it. So instead, I back off a little and she drops down and starts BBBJ. Not deep throat but really good. Really great session followed and we really pounded it out especially with the leverage from my feet being on the wall. She had numerous orgasms and really came hard. I came just before the buzzer rang. As we were leaving, she asked me why I did not want her phone number. I told her I wasn't in my right mind – that she just blew my mind. She wrote it down and told me to make sure I did not leave it in my roB. She asked if I was in town for awhile and I told her Sunday but would be back in early January. Turns out I'll be there for her birthday – and that Pietra's (from Luomo's) birthday is the previous day. I told her the 3 of us will celebrate in a private dupla. She liked this idea a lot as she really got along with Pietra when she worked at MC and they had a few duplas together before. Very similar bodies.
A great night pulled from the brink of disaster.
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The one in the middle I know. She fucked my boy, charged 100 Reals. The next time she raised the price to 200. He said she was a hell of a fuck. Shes 18, probably 19 now and a real sweet girl. She always in MP during the day also. The friends not sure who they are.
Azn Safado
12-06-09, 07:54
The picture you posted with this report.. I believe she nows works in Luomo. I saw a girl that looks strikingly similar to her there in November. Very friendly, very playful. I didn't session with her, but of the girls in the boite she exhibited the most energy. Again, I though Luomo had fallen off quite a bit, but I was struck by this beauty.
Regarding the photo in this link:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=126294
I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw the picture. I think this is the girl Lina that is new to Luomo. She said she was 19 years old, been working there for 3 weeks, and that it was her first casa when I session with her in Luomo a couple of weeks ago. If the girl in the photo isn't Lina from Luomo, then she's a dead-ringer or a twin sister. So if this girl is a Help or MP girl, I would be kind of surprised unless she's a Help girl who started working at Luomo.
JohnnyBraz
12-06-09, 10:39
Nice report hughdad,
Rio is one off them places were you think you are destined to have a bad night and it turns out to be one off the best. For me the termas do it. Fixed pricing and you very rarley get a dud.
Tiradentes
12-06-09, 16:37
Go Flamengo !
Tonight, Flamengo will become the Brazilian champion for the 8th time and the city of Rio will fall in a orgy of debauchery.
Wear red shirts , if you are in Rio.
Mengo ! Mengo !
Congrats. in advance.
Tonight, Flamengo will become the Brazilian champion for the 8th time and the city of Rio will fall in a orgy of debauchery.
6:th time. :)
Thanks to bubba's guide I was able to take the train from cantafugo station (near Help on Miguel Lemos) to centro Uruguaina and hit local spots there. The train is not for the faint of heart during busy times, it gets really packed. The same only a little more can be said for Buenos Aires 85. Hardcore poor locals spot. I checked out all 5 floors, a bar in each of them with girls, decent selection, most are in good shape, no fuglies here. I got a programa for R17.50, the lowest I have ever paid anywhere. 20 mins or so, the girl was really clean, everything covered. only problem is no showers/running water and cabins are tiny.
Next I walked to BA 113, it was shuttered down, this was on Fri around 6pm. I went again on Tuesday evening to the area and it was still closed??
I hit 4X4 on both days and had a great time. Just love the atmosphere here, the music and the girls, and the service is mind blowing. This is the only Terma that makes me want to stay till they close. Had two 40 min sessions + drinks both times for a total of around R520 each time using a credit card.
On a side note Centaurus is a total ripoff IMHO. $450 for 40 mins and you have to pay in advance, and I was also told most do cbj's there, I insisted so I got one without. The girls are just about the same as any other tier 1 terma. Actually I felt Luomo, MC had better. They dont have phones in the room so you dont know the time unless you keep track. My girl told me it was over after one shot. My advice save R150 by going to MC or Luomo and have a better time.
Pussyhunter099
12-06-09, 22:17
On a side note Centaurus is a total ripoff IMHO. $450 for 40 mins and you have to pay in advance, and I was also told most do CBJ's there, I insisted so I got one without. The girls are just about the same as any other tier 1 terma. Actually I felt Luomo, MC had better. They don't have phones in the room so you don't know the time unless you keep track. My girl told me it was over after one shot. My advice save R150 by going to MC or Luomo and have a better time.When I have gone to Centaurus have never had to pay the full amount in advance, only the entrance fee, when they ask for R450 I tell them the other times I only had to pay the entrance and they have always said ok. I was in Rio last week and I can say as far as my tastes go Centaurus had the hottest women. I will agree that it is overpriced and one should be able to find what they want at one of the other termas.
In the past I have had girls at Luomo, Monte Carlo, and Centaurus give CBJ, never yet at 4x4. I think it depends on the girl and not the terma, the CBJ girls are definitely in the minority.
Jamaicanceo
12-06-09, 22:46
Thanks to bubba's guide I was able to take the train from cantafugo station (near Help on Miguel Lemos) to centro Uruguaina and hit local spots there. The train is not for the faint of heart during busy times, it gets really packed. The same only a little more can be said for Buenos Aires 85. Hardcore poor locals spot. I checked out all 5 floors, a bar in each of them with girls, decent selection, most are in good shape, no fuglies here. I got a programa for R17. 50, the lowest I have ever paid anywhere. 20 mins or so, the girl was really clean, everything covered. Only problem is no showers/running water and cabins are tiny.
Next I walked to BA 113, it was shuttered down, this was on Fri around 6pm. I went again on Tuesday evening to the area and it was still closed?
I hit 4X4 on both days and had a great time. Just love the atmosphere here, the music and the girls, and the service is mind blowing. This is the only Terma that makes me want to stay till they close. Had two 40 min sessions + drinks both times for a total of around R520 each time using a credit card.
On a side note Centaurus is a total ripoff IMHO. $450 for 40 mins and you have to pay in advance, and I was also told most do CBJ's there, I insisted so I got one without. The girls are just about the same as any other tier 1 terma. Actually I felt Luomo, MC had better. They don't have phones in the room so you don't know the time unless you keep track. My girl told me it was over after one shot. My advice save R150 by going to MC or Luomo and have a better time.When I got to a termas I always synchronize my watch with the girls eyeballs. In some termas the girls take forever to change and meet you. Some will smoke a cigarette before they session, and you are waiting. This happened in 4x4 and Cancun. The girls at these two places are notorious for long delays, but I have the time on my watch going. Sorry, but those are my reals and times. In luomo you and the girl enter the cabin together, ready to do the business.
SlimHoleDrill
12-06-09, 23:58
In the interst of providing new perspectives....
It was a dark and stormy night. Really. One of those rare late-spring cold fronts had barrelled into Rio, mercifully quenching the searing heat that had apoeared so early in the season. Waves crashing on the beach, wind howling, stinging rain in your face. Just the sort of night to visit an old haunt and renew old connections. So, I made my way to bar 22. Let me say up front, I don't recommend it to many of you because of the grimy facilities and "variable" quality. At its best, it is a place not suited to many gringos. And that night was far from its best and, yet, in a strange way, it was.
As I climbed the narrow stairs, I sensed that something was not right. As I ascended and left the cool damp outside air, it became dense and steamy. The upstairs corridor was choked with people, local guys, stripped to the waist and standing around with a beer in their hand and a few girls. I pushed forward to pay the R12 entry fee (which gets you 3 beers, BTW) and when I got inside the boite, I learned that the AC was out.
I didn't even consider leaaving because I immediately sensed that something was different. Looking around at the sweating bodies, girls glistening as they plied their trade, I was transformed to an earlier time: a time before AC and upscale termas, a time when Rio was undiscovered by gringos and Zona Sul didn't exist. The Lapa was a steamy place with men and women drinking beer on the street and playing out their romances as they came. Everybody (nearly) was stripped to the waist, guys playing pool on the table with the impossibly small pockets. Lots of locals hanging out, a few doing sessions. I thought of those days before silicone, before HIV when you took your chances and got your dose of penicillin if necessary. You might have some explaining to do, but, generally, you didn't die from illicit sex. A simpler time.
While I was relfecting on this strange scene, I soon saw an old friend, Bahiana. She is really quite an incredible person and I have a lot of time for her, both in the cabin and out. Boundless energy, bright neyes and a beautiful, lean body are just a few of her qualities. She is not one for those who want large breast, though. The atmosphere continued in the cabin where the heat was dissipated by the large, ceiling-mounted rotating fan. What can I say -- we had a great session.
Later, in the boite, I was talking with some of the other girls and learned something really interesting. It turns out that a month or so ago, a "bandido" came in the place with a gun and robbed everybody. Then they went on to say that Rio was going to get real dangerous as we go into Christmas, and then, even worse for Carnival. They say the favelas will be the safest place to be since all the bandidos will be in Copa Cabana, Ipanema, etc. And they say it will be dangerous for Brasileros as well as gringos. OH well, we all know that, but it is easy to forget.
I guess they will get the AC going again soon and things will be a little more normal, but I must say, this was a unique evening. The girls were different that night. They had their defenses down a little and it was disarming -- even charming.
So, ever it is: the diamond in the rough is much more interesting and satifyng than ever could be the best jewel, reliably purchased.
In the interst of providing new perspectives....
It was a dark and stormy night. Really. One of those rare late-spring cold fronts had barrelled into Rio, mercifully quenching the searing heat that had apoeared so early in the season. Waves crashing on the beach, wind howling, stinging rain in your face. Just the sort of night to visit an old haunt and renew old connections. So, I made my way to bar 22. Let me say up front, I don't recommend it to many of you because of the grimy facilities and "variable" quality. At its best, it is a place not suited to many gringos. And that night was far from its best and, yet, in a strange way, it was.
As I climbed the narrow stairs, I sensed that something was not right. As I ascended and left the cool damp outside air, it became dense and steamy. The upstairs corridor was choked with people, local guys, stripped to the waist and standing around with a beer in their hand and a few girls. I pushed forward to pay the R12 entry fee (which gets you 3 beers, BTW) and when I got inside the boite, I learned that the AC was out.
I didn't even consider leaaving because I immediately sensed that something was different. Looking around at the sweating bodies, girls glistening as they plied their trade, I was transformed to an earlier time: a time before AC and upscale termas, a time when Rio was undiscovered by gringos and Zona Sul didn't exist. The Lapa was a steamy place with men and women drinking beer on the street and playing out their romances as they came. Everybody (nearly) was stripped to the waist, guys playing pool on the table with the impossibly small pockets. Lots of locals hanging out, a few doing sessions. I thought of those days before silicone, before HIV when you took your chances and got your dose of penicillin if necessary. You might have some explaining to do, but, generally, you didn't die from illicit sex. A simpler time.
While I was relfecting on this strange scene, I soon saw an old friend, Bahiana. She is really quite an incredible person and I have a lot of time for her, both in the cabin and out. Boundless energy, bright neyes and a beautiful, lean body are just a few of her qualities. She is not one for those who want large breast, though. The atmosphere continued in the cabin where the heat was dissipated by the large, ceiling-mounted rotating fan. What can I say -- we had a great session.
Later, in the boite, I was talking with some of the other girls and learned something really interesting. It turns out that a month or so ago, a "bandido" came in the place with a gun and robbed everybody. Then they went on to say that Rio was going to get real dangerous as we go into Christmas, and then, even worse for Carnival. They say the favelas will be the safest place to be since all the bandidos will be in Copa Cabana, Ipanema, etc. And they say it will be dangerous for Brasileros as well as gringos. OH well, we all know that, but it is easy to forget.
I guess they will get the AC going again soon and things will be a little more normal, but I must say, this was a unique evening. The girls were different that night. They had their defenses down a little and it was disarming -- even charming.
So, ever it is: the diamond in the rough is much more interesting and satifyng than ever could be the best jewel, reliably purchased.The AC wasn't working Saturday either, although Flamengo wasn't playing for the championship so the shirts were on. For anyone new to this environment, suffice it to say: this is the flavor of Centro and points beyond Zona Sul. That Baiania still around? Great play for you mesomorphs looking to tackle a 125 pound morena'mulata.
SlimHoleDrill
12-07-09, 14:31
The AC wasn't working Saturday either, although Flamengo wasn't playing for the championship so the shirts were on. For anyone new to this environment, suffice it to say: this is the flavor of Centro and points beyond Zona Sul. That Baiania still around? Great play for you mesomorphs looking to tackle a 125 pound morena'mulata.
Mesomorph. LOL. Not skiny but not an ounce of fat. Don't know about the shirt thing because this was not on Sunday. Maybe the saturday crowd is more gentile. LOL.
Jamaicanceo
12-08-09, 02:21
I received this today from a girl I've banged since March 2009. This girl is 18 and beautiful. She could R300-R900 a day easily if she's lazy. When I met her in front of Help at TA in March 2009, she was asking for R400. 00 for 2 hours. I got her for R200 for 2 orgasmos. May 2009 I ignored her the whole 10 days. She calls me safado.
Oct-Nov. R200. 00 all night, and she ran errands. I got hurt during last November blackout, and she went to get me some bottled water to bath when the water was out in Rio the next day, and she changed my wound bandages. When I added R50. 00 because she was very helpful. Not bad to have a pretty 18 year girl who sucks and fucks great but speaks no english to be so helpful. American women don't have the ability to even fake it.
But here is her long distant cry for help:
"I'm full of problems my mother is very I'll, I'm doing work in the house my mother I spent money I'm working on a folded out I have to buy clothes and shoes for my family because Christmas is coming the new year to my course I stopped because I'm not having money, are you still willing to come fight it says a lot things for me imargina as my head my life is very complicated, a thousand descupa por had you treated badly most do not know what I do is only one structure my house is me, I can not show them that I'm so descupas Then a thousand is great kiss is be with God.
Know that I love you despite all that.
Natalia! "
This email is probably going to 1, 000 gringos around the world that she sucked and fucked this year. I guess one or more of the other gringos will send her what she asks for. Not me!
I will see her when I see her! Don't Fall for the Christmas GDP Holiday Email!
Mesomorph. LOL. Not skiny but not an ounce of fat. Don't know about the shirt thing because this was not on Sunday. Maybe the Saturday crowd is more gentile. LOL.Everyone's looking for an early exit for their Saturday nite party.
Saturday historically a problematic monger night in Rio de Janeiro. Long time in the game, you anticipate Friday and look forward to Sunday. Ok, exceptions to every rule. No arguing here: just have not come to expect to find the Heart of Sa'diddy night anymore in RJ. True, that is one low-fat content Bahiania, but you play the hand you're dealt and the personal preference here is for the 48 max kilo girl, although gain half-a-dozen kilos and I'm singin' a different tune.
JohnnyBraz
12-08-09, 07:04
I received this today from a girl I've banged since March 2009. This girl is 18 and beautiful. She could R300-R900 a day easily if she's lazy. When I met her in front of Help at TA in March 2009, she was asking for R400. 00 for 2 hours. I got her for R200 for 2 orgasmos. May 2009 I ignored her the whole 10 days. She calls me safado.
Oct-Nov. R200. 00 all night, and she ran errands. I got hurt during last November blackout, and she went to get me some bottled water to bath when the water was out in Rio the next day, and she changed my wound bandages. When I added R50. 00 because she was very helpful. Not bad to have a pretty 18 year girl who sucks and fucks great but speaks no english to be so helpful. American women don't have the ability to even fake it.
But here is her long distant cry for help:
"I'm full of problems my mother is very I'll, I'm doing work in the house my mother I spent money I'm working on a folded out I have to buy clothes and shoes for my family because Christmas is coming the new year to my course I stopped because I'm not having money, are you still willing to come fight it says a lot things for me imargina as my head my life is very complicated, a thousand descupa por had you treated badly most do not know what I do is only one structure my house is me, I can not show them that I'm so descupas Then a thousand is great kiss is be with God.
Know that I love you despite all that.
Natalia! "
This email is probably going to 1, 000 gringos around the world that she sucked and fucked this year. I guess one or more of the other gringos will send her what she asks for. Not me!
I will see her when I see her! Don't Fall for the Christmas GDP Holiday Email!These *****s will always send emails like that, as there is always weak cunts who will send them money. 1000 emails = 10 weak cunts min.
When I got to a termas I always synchronize my watch with the girls eyeballs. In some termas the girls take forever to change and meet you. Some will smoke a cigarette before they session, and you are waiting. This happened in 4x4 and Cancun. The girls at these two places are notorious for long delays, but I have the time on my watch going. Sorry, but those are my reals and times. In luomo you and the girl enter the cabin together, ready to do the business.
I thought the time in 4x4 doesnt start until they come back into the room, pick up the phone and speak to the girl at the desk. Almost every girl I have ever had at 4x4, brings me to the room first and then goes to retrieve her little box thing. Once she calls the desk, then the clock starts. She can take as long as she wants to get her things because she is not on my time yet.
Jamaicanceo
12-08-09, 08:07
I thought the time in 4x4 doesnt start until they come back into the room, pick up the phone and speak to the girl at the desk. Almost every girl I have ever had at 4x4, brings me to the room first and then goes to retrieve her little box thing. Once she calls the desk, then the clock starts. She can take as long as she wants to get her things because she is not on my time yet.Yes, it depends on the girl. But just like you have to check your bill to see if you got your entry discount or that you are not over charged, you must also monitor the time when you start and when the session is over. I where my watch to ensure I get my time, and I suggest other mongers do the same. Otherwise, there is no means to monitor the time unless you know exactly when the time starts and ends.
As a matter of fact, if you and the girl get along, they will ask the front desk lady (The room assigner if you will) not to call. I've stayed in a room at 4 X 4 for as long as 3 hours while paying the 1 hour rate (We got a knock on the door instead of the phone ringing instead). I've also had the same thing happen at Termas 502, Belprazer, and other locations throughout the city. It all depends on who you pick and how you get along with her, they sometimes just happy to be there with you having fun. Treating the girls like ladies go a long way to them really letting you get the best they've got and then some.
I thought the time in 4x4 doesnt start until they come back into the room, pick up the phone and speak to the girl at the desk. Almost every girl I have ever had at 4x4, brings me to the room first and then goes to retrieve her little box thing. Once she calls the desk, then the clock starts. She can take as long as she wants to get her things because she is not on my time yet.
I was in terma Monte Carlo when the blackout hit Brazil. For what was suppose to be my last night of that trip in Rio, I was sitting in MC with my main Rio mentor when after a hour of trying to size up the right girl, the lights went out. We all sat in the dark for a while until the manager, nice guy and former US Navy serviceman, with hit staff told everyone the blackout is all over Rio and we're done for the night (not in English of course). But you get the hint when the girls started to leave the bar.
So the zoo started. No power for the credit card machines. They found some portable light but mainly flash lights were used, and they used a honor system to ask you your activity and drinks in order to charge you. It was a long sweaty process. I think each monger took 20 minutes to get out because the receptionists had to calculate charges and give change the old fashion way before termas used machines. I believe we all got charged entrance fee regardless of the blackout early out.You posted this report under the big headline that you "Got Cheated" at Monte Carlo. Then your last sentence is you "believe we all got charged entrance fee regardless of the blackout. " Don't you think that is irresponsible for you post if you are not certain of something? I have found the management at Monte Carlo to be very fair, very honest and very hands-on when it comes to handling any dispute. They come up to meet you before you session to make sure you understand exactly what your charges will be and make sure you agree. I have witnessed a few customers complaints be handled calmly and satisfactory. If you feel you have been cheated why not deal with them next time you are there or even email them now. They will respond. I had an issue getting their Tuesday coupon by email and they emailed me and told me they will honor it regardless when I come in.
Exec Talent
12-08-09, 13:32
As a matter of fact, if you and the girl get along, they will ask the front desk lady (The room assigner if you will) not to call. I've stayed in a room at 4 X 4 for as long as 3 hours while paying the 1 hour rate (We got a knock on the door instead of the phone ringing instead). I've also had the same thing happen at Termas 502, Belprazer, and other locations throughout the city. It all depends on who you pick and how you get along with her, they sometimes just happy to be there with you having fun. Treating the girls like ladies go a long way to them really letting you get the best they've got and then some.
Finally, someone posting here who gets it. Never been rushed at 4x4, in fact usually go at least 15 - 30 minutes over. I always laugh to myself when a guy returns from the room in 10 minutes going on about how he is "the man."
Everyone's looking for an early exit for their Saturday nite party.
Saturday historically a problematic monger night in Rio de Janeiro. Long time in the game, you anticipate Friday and look forward to Sunday. Ok, exceptions to every rule. No arguing here: just have not come to expect to find the Heart of Sa'diddy night anymore in RJ. True, that is one low-fat content Bahiania, but you play the hand you're dealt and the personal preference here is for the 48 max kilo girl, although gain half-a-dozen kilos and I'm singin' a different tune.I have no idea what you just said.
This November I was in Rio for some days accompaining other people that don't share the same mongering passion I do. To contain costs I had to stay in the same room with them and therefore had to limit my mongering options to only termas and bordellos. The hotel of choice was the Premier Copacabana which I hear is girl friendly but I didn't exploit it as said.
Two words about the hotel: very professional staff, free wifi (not always fast but acceptable for browsing), good but always the same breakfast, easy to reach the Centro thanks to the metro right outside the hotel and it's in Copa (which I prefer to Ipanema, more shops and cheap eating options). Overall, recommended.
My previous mongering experience were in Berlin (Artemis), Cologne (Samya, Poleposition) and in DR (Sosua). This was my first time in Rio.
Touristic info
Taxi are cheap. Take one for going inside Zona Sul but don't for going to Centro (metro is faster and cheaper in this case).
Busses are plenty and very cheap too. Rua Barata Ribeiro, Av. Nossa Senhora de Copacabana and Av. Atlantica are the spots to take them, depending where you want to go.
If you want to spend a bit to eat out, Marius Crustaceos in Leme is the best for a great and entertaining evening. R$92 for all the meat you can eat and R$150 for all the fish. Not cheap but once is well worth going. Caipirinha on the beach is still around R$5, coco is a sort of fixed price at R$2, 5. A plate of meat shouldn't cost more than R$40 in Copa and R$45-50 in Ipanema/Leblon; for fish, add R$10. Pasta (if you dare to taste that soft version they have there) is no more than R$25, often way less. The same thing in Centro is R$10 cheaper than in Zona Sul. Of course, it all depends on the kind of restaurant you choose.
Day 1
Landed, dropped my bags and done a tour of my neighborhood to know my way around, I waited until my second day to test my first terma because of lack of sleep from the flight. No point in rushing out only to find too tired to do things as they should be done. I thought, given that I was so close and had no previous experience of any termas, L'Uomo would have been the perfect choice for my first time.
I walked inside the shopping mall where L'Uomo is (right after where is the stop for the Barra Expresso coming from the center of Copa) and headed upstairs and then on the right. L'Uomo is on the the corridor if I remember correctly, read the sign at the entrance.
Anyway, it was the 16:30 and I was surprised to find already a dozen of men present while only 9 girls. I'd bet it would have been the contrary. The selection was very good though: only a couple I'd have not accepted to session with, 3 of them were in the 6-7 range and the rest were 8+. Not good in quantity but very good in quality then.
And there was a great selection of colors too, 1 black girl, 2 mulattas, 3 fake and 1 real blondes and the rest all brunettes. For me that I like all the kind of women it was very good to have such a great selection.
That said, I sat at the bar stool, took my suco de laranja (no alcohol for me in these places) and watched the parade. Too many to chose from and too little time to taste them all I thought. I saw a small brunette with dark skin, bright eyes, beautiful smile and a body to die for entering and coming directly towards me. She was Ingrid, 25 years old, carioca. I was in the mood to spend and accepted her offer for an hour in a suite instead of a cabana. Obviously only after having made sure that she did "tudo".
She took my key and, to my surprise, left me waiting in the bar just to change herself from the bikini she wore to a very sexy red roB. This alone took a good ten minutes of time before I saw again Ingrid smiling at me from the entrance. I don't see the need for the girls to change before having sex (after all, in 10 seconds she is going to be naked again) but can live with it if the performance is good.
And it was.
She was real GFE, a lot of wet kisses, she undressed herself very slowly and then took charge in undressing me too in the same slow and erotic way. Then she started a BBBJ (not the best of my life but good nonetheless), before I headed to her vagina. Then fuck time, first in the classic, doggy, way and when she had put enough lube on her, in the anal way. She was very energetic and enthusiastic thoroughout the session, not a complain, not a moment where she seemed away with her thoughts, really GFE. I'm not the kind of guy that comes in minutes and I didn't want to ruin her ass for a week so I gave her the chance to let me come on her tits and let her relax a bit. Needless to say, Ingrid accepted my request and the first pop of the day was accomplished. After, we talked a bit, about how the brazilian condoms are thinner than the american counterpart, about what I liked about Brazil until then (what? The women obviously) and was even so generous to offer me a couple of condoms as a present, offer which I politely refused. A call on the phone from the direction ended our time together.
Shower, bathroom and I was ready to go back to the boite. As soon as I entered, a blonde and a brunette waved me over to their place on the couch and who am I to say no to two maidens in need of company? When there, I didn't like much the face of the brunette while the blonde looked far more attractive but very shy. I thought that a shy brazilian prostitute would be very rare so I started to investigate: Natasha is her name, 24 years old, carioca, brown-green eyes, small tits, great ass (no need to specify this when speaking about a brazilian girl though.) and very long, shaved, legs. She looked new, and after she confessed it, but was not that shy with her toungue, already exploring my mouth and ear at will. I got a good vibe from her and off to the cabin we were for our 40 minutes.
There she undressed slowly as Ingrid did, spent a good deal of time just kissing me (which I adore), and then a lot more time to make a BBBJ, very slow, very appassionated and overall very good. She brought me easily to the point of orgasming so I stopped her for a brief fucking session, in missionary and doggy. At the right moment I brought my penis close to her mouth, curious to see if she would have resisted or not but she didn't; instead, she received the cum in the mouth, taking really a good care to not let any drop of it on the bed and hurried for a used condom where to spit it afterwards. That was so unlike girls in Europe I thought. After the act she invited me to cuddle for a couple of minutes, just the time that was left before the end of the session. Then out to dinner for me and to other clients for her.
First day and already a good one.
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Exec Talent
12-09-09, 14:41
Should we add illiterate to your every growing list of redeeming qualities. No one (other than you) is talking about money. We are talking about respect. Getting away from guys like you is one of the reasons a lot of us travel to Brazil. Unfortunately, many of your type have started following us here.
Since there is little chance of you ever “getting it,” I suggest that other members do as I will after this post and put you on ignore. I think it has been established very well elsewhere that Neanderthal attitudes toward women will not be tolerated on this forum. Go back to your cave.
Jamaicanceo
12-09-09, 19:37
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Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.
Thanks,
Jackson
If I feel that I was cheated I was cheated, and so was everyone else. What makes you feel that you have to challenge another member's post? Do you work for Monte Carlo? No one on this forum needs your opinion about what they want to post.You were either cheated or not cheated. There is no grey area. It is irresponsible to make a claim against a business that you "feel" or "believe" you were cheated - as state it as fact. If you feel you were cheated you should address it with them and not make a claim here that may not be true and could possibly influence other's opinions. But why am I wasting my time trying to explain this to you. I doubt you can grasp this concept. I will follow ET's advise and just ignore you from now on (or until you are banned here which seems inevitable.)
And no I do not work for Monte Carlo. But if the position for Garota Quality Control Inspector ever opens up I am applying!
Jamaicanceo
12-10-09, 20:58
You were either cheated or not cheated. There is no grey area. It is irresponsible to make a claim against a business that you "feel" or "believe" you were cheated - as state it as fact. If you feel you were cheated you should address it with them and not make a claim here that may not be true and could possibly influence other's opinions. But why am I wasting my time trying to explain this to you. I doubt you can grasp this concept. I will follow ET's advise and just ignore you from now on (or until you are banned here which seems inevitable.)
And no I do not work for Monte Carlo. But if the position for Garota Quality Control Inspector ever opens up I am applying!
I and other members of this forum don't need you or ET to explain anything to us. Ignore me then. You and ET seem to be talk to each other most of the time anyway. And a ban doesn't cancel my mongering activities, and I could login with other emails and user names like others do. Some people have more than one account. It appears that this forum is the Hughdad and ET show, to a degree.
I thought of going to test Montecarlo or Centaurus but the bad reviews I read about the latter and the greater distance (I'm lazy) of the former brought me to head again to L'Uomo. I was the first to enter, right at the 16:00. The experience of entering the boite as the only man and tasting how all the girls were looking at me was priceless. I grabbed a drink and sat to enjoy the show of around twelve girls all waiting for a move from me. I took my time, no reason to hurry I said to myself. There were some new girls that didn't particulary enticed me and a couple of the most beautiful of the day before were missing. Overall a bit worse than the first visit but still very good. There was a black, slender girl that seemed so busy talking with her friends that didn't notice my stares. When I thought to walk to her, Natasha was back at my side and instantly put her tongue inside my ear. I discovered myself unable to resist her avanches and so another appointment of 40 minutes with her was done.
In the cabana she was the same good performer as the day before, really passionate. I didn't want the session to end prematurely so I managed to control myself to the point of having the orgasm at the 39° minute (that was really good timing). She looked exhausted at the end and we were both copiously sweating but very happy. She told me to have come twice, it's a wonder how often those girls can come (or how good they are at pretending to).
Back in the boite, I spent a long time just watching and relaxing. It was still very early and there were no more than a half a dozen men present against 15-16 girls: very good ratio. Natasha after a bit came again at my side, I must have looked very alone, and started to comforts me as only a girl can to a man. I didn't want to repeat with her again, one is duty, two is pleasure, three is love and I don't want to fall in love that soon. So I kept looking around with her at my side, progressively getting more bored of me and of the club too I guess. Probably the best girls were busy because there was no one of the bunch of my favourites to be seen so I kept waiting until a mulatta entered and sat right in front of me on another sofa. She looked very ready to have sex, the kind of girl that seems to enjoy her job. I enjoy it as much as her and motioned her over to my free of Natasha side. Her name was Jacqueline, another carioca and another one available for "tudo". She immediately replied to my classic inquiry if for tudo I meant anal and I said: "yeah, even anal", which she promised was on the menu. Perfect, let's go to a room.
Jacqueline was very different from Natasha: where the blonde was shy, sweet and silent, Jacqueline was strong, straight to the point and very verbal. She didn't seem to enjoy preliminars too much and did a BBBJ just the time needed to ready herself with enough lube for anal sex. Then fucking, a fucking like in a porn movie: Jacqueline screamed, moved her ass up and down very quickly, alternatively glanced at herself in the mirror and at me, smiling. On the top, a constant stream of words like "safado" and "mais forte". I thought she was a pornostar but didn't remember to have seen her face before and I'm not the kind of guy that forget a beautiful girl (but haven't seen every porn movie too). Anyway, the session was raw and long sex, very PSE, something I had very rarely experienced.
After Jacqueline I really hadn't any more energy and juice so didn't remain to me more than leaving L'Uomo. Another great day though.
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It was a Friday and the Centro termas were going to be closed for the weekend and I realized that I hadn't visited any of them. No time to look for hidden gems so I thought that the classic 4x4 was due that day. I took the metro from Siqueira Campos to Uruguaiana and found myself in the middle of a local, busy market. I couldn't read any sign of Rua Buenos Aires but left my luck working for me and the first big street crossing the market was the right one. It's a bit of a walk from the metro exit, left and then up right to near the beginning of the Rua. 4x4 is just a small door and I nearly missed it if wasn't for the security guy outside that looked at me like he could help me. He could.
First, 4x4 is far huger than L'Uomo, like thrice its dimensions. The boite though isn't that big and definetly isn't big enough to contain all the people that frequent it. I entered there around the 15 and there were already 20-25 girls and a dozen of men, making the boite already quite crowded. Most of the men were black americans but the girls told me that italians, germans and brazilians are also quite well represented.
First difference with L'Uomo: the girls aren't on par with the Copa termas. Great bodies as usual but not the same beautiful faces. Not that they were ugly or something like that, not at all, just not as beautiful as at L'Uomo. I'd have rated half of them between 5-6, a ten around 7 and only a handful 8+. Still enough to find a good partner for a session though.
A blonde one, 30 years old probably, approached me. She was called Carla, had a beautiful smile and a way of dancing that I quite liked. Fake tits though but on the touch could have passed for natural ones. She is quite tall too, 180cm or around so.
When she mentioned that in a suite we could have sex in a jacuzzi I was hooked and down again we went (rooms are down the boite, near the men's
Locker-room). She stopped first at the reception to get a couple of condoms (which was completely unneeded because she brought with them in a suitcase enough for a week) and showed me the way for our suite, a lot bigger than at L'Uomo and with shower, wc, tv and our jacuzzi. I showered first and then let her have her turn of washing herself (which always takes more than a man would expect.). She didn't take the same time to fuck me though, she looked as she wanted to end the session very soon and obviously I didn't like it at all. I took my time fucking her doggy, she questioned me if it was normal for me to last that long and I answered positively (which is not always the case but I wanted to be certain that she dropped that hurry she had and relaxed more). My lie didn't worked and Carla looked more and more absent and silent. I came and, instead of letting us shower ourselves or taking a dip in the jacuzzi, Carla asked me if I could massage her back. I usually don't like to receive a massage so I couldn't say I was a fan of giving one too but thought that 5 minutes could have been well spent in trying to relax her for the second round. I did my best, which surely meant a lukewarm quality massage, and then asked her for the jacuzzi. She needed to use the wc first and I waited her for long minutes before she was ready again for me. Unfortunately that gave her the excuse to say that there wasn't enough time to try the jacuzzi too, and she was right because it lacked only ten minutes before the end of the hour. Maybe I was too polite but I let her go, not before being utterly surprised to hear her asking for a tip, that I firmly refused.
I guess she was not pleased with my answer because didn't spoke with me anymore and left my hand after just a couple of meters out of the room's door, leaving me struggling with the labyrintic settings of 4x4 to get back to the showers. Back in the boite I didn't see any girl that I liked much or perhaps I was left in a bad mood by the behaviour of Carla and wasn't hopeful that another girl could have a better professionality. I decided to get back to the hotel, hoping to have a better run at another terma the next day. Perhaps I was just stupid with Carla but after two days at L'Uomo I wouldn't have expected that sort of behaviour from a brazilian girl. Well, lesson learned.
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Last mongering day in Rio but not last day of vacation. I wouldn't have been able to test any other termas in the last days so this completes my Rio reports.
I thought to give a try to Centaurus but didn't want to waste 1 hour waiting for it to open (when travelling with other people it's not possible to be flexible with your time.) and opted for Montecarlo. I arrived there right at the opening and was the only other man there beside a middle aged white man. Montecarlo is bigger than L'Uomo and, as 4x4, is mostly spread over different floors, 5 if I'm not wrong. There is a lift that works pretty well to go between them or you can use the stairs (that with flip flops and wet feet can become dangerous). The shower room is big and everything worked better than in 4x4 (never had the pleasure to get hot water there.) and is more accomodating than the L'Uomo's (too small for the club IMHO). The boite is a middle way between 4x4 and L'Uomo, bigger than the latter's but smaller than the former's.
Anyway, there were only me and that other man at the time I entered and I wasn't given neither the time to sit that a stunning brunette approached me. I had already noticed her entering, she was in the middle of the group of girls present (more than a dozen, besides 3 or 4 not up to my standards, all very doables with at least 4 of them really stunning). I immediately decided that I would session with her, there was a good vibe in her that I liked on the istant, but I wanted to know her a bit more so we sat and talked. She was called Laura, 23 or 24 years old (can't remember), brown-blonde hair, round face, brown eyes, caramel complexion and all the curves in the right places without being fat. She was a good conversionalist, looked genuinely interested in talking, was ready to smile and laugh at my (poor) sense of humor and overall the kind of girl that if I had the chance to met outside those places would have considered myself lucky to have dated. She promised me to make good use of some of her "instruments", which didn't appeal me at all but seemed a good sign she was open to everything, so up we went.
After having to wait off the lift for her to ready herself, to our room we went. Room slightly bigger than at L'Uomo but still on the crammed side. I don't know if Laura had ever done some porn or if she was in the business for years but she looked like she could; she was very experienced, she was the only one ever that was able to put the condom on without using any hands (and I'm not over or undersized in that department), which I remarked with an applause. Laura was not GFE though, she liked to go straight to the point, be fucked well and long; yet I remember her as one of the most intense sessions I ever had because she was so into the sex, she never stopped stimolating me by pinching my nipples, slightly biting my earlobes, moving her hands all over my body and all the repertory that you would expect from a real sex expert. Plus, she had the body and personality to shine even in the middle of a Victoria's Secret fashion show.
To add to the experience, she had all sorts of "instruments" in her bag. At some point she extracted a big dildo from it, put a condom on it (in a single hand movement) and started to lick and suck it close to my face, inviting me to do the same (which I did without liking it though).
After the sex she did the only thing I didn't like in those 40 minutes, smoked a cigarette. Yet was polite enough to ask my permission first. We talked a bit more about Rio and her sexual views (she is quite bisexual I think, and wasn't even impressed that in italy we have many politics having sex with transexuals from Brazil). Great session, I was fully satisfied and Laura too looked as she liked it.
Next I wanted to experience a black girl. I wasn't generally impressed with the quality of them in Brazil, I think that the ones in Dominican Republic are far more beautiful than the black brazilians yet a first hand test was a must before taking a definitive opinion on the matter. I sat and a couple of girls approached me, no one I was interested in though. I remember Soraya because she was another good conversionalist and seemed happy just to talk with me. Unfortunately for her I was looking for something different and let the discussion fall. I kept looking around hoping to have the luck to see a black girl (at that moment there were only mulattas and the boite was crowding). I was lucky. A jet-black girl entered the bar, very tall, slender body, nearly no boobs but with a world class ass, long hair, big eyes and not the best face in the club at that moment but there was an instinctual attraction that moved me towards her. Yet I had to wait because she didn't notice me, a black guy invited her to the bar and kept her busy for good 10 minutes. I waited. He didn't seem interested enough in her because let her move freely again and promptly I snatched her to my place.
Her name was Danubia ("yeah, like the river") and seemed quite a nice person, smiling and funny. I already had no doubt about sessioning with her and a room upstairs was only waiting for us. There, I guess I somehow managed to excite Danubia or perhaps she hadn't had sex in a bunch of time because she became immediately very wet (and by very I mean *very*) and was so passionate that I honestly thought she could have a crush on me. But they are professionals so it's their duty to make us believe so, I repeated to myself. She was very good in making me believe it though, lots of wet kisses, cuddling, cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, a very fast BBBJ, missionary and then ending in cowgirl again. Along all the session she kept loudly breathing, sweating, kissing, trembling even and confessed me that came 3 times. Usually I don't believe much in how many orgasms can a prostitute have but if somebody had asked me to visualize the face of a girl that was having multiple orgasm I would have visualized Danubia's.
So, not the best looking girl, I would have given her a 6, 5, but a genuinely passionate one.
Unfortunately the time for me at Montecarlo was running out, no more sessions for me that day and no more for the rest of my staying in Rio. Overall I'd say that L'Uomo is the best of the 3 termas I tested but there isn't enough turn over of the girls to spend more than a couple of days there. Montecarlo had a bigger selection and perhaps kinkier girls, more dancing and less bored to death ones. It opens an hour before the others too, something that can be very useful at times. 4x4 had the only advantage to be cheaper over the Copa ones but I wouldn't choose it again only to save 10-20€ per session, the girls' quality wasn't high enough to justify saving some money instead of spending it in a Copa termas. Plus, I liked the soft atmosphere of L'Uomo or the funny one of Montecarlo more than the "raw" of 4x4. Clearly YMMV.
P.S. = is it normal to not to be impressed so much by Rio's girls as to finding myself longing to be back to Dominican Republic again? I thought Rio would blow away everything else but I don't feel this way now.
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Exec Talent
12-11-09, 12:53
Noticed that a new post had been made to this thread by Maylay Sparks. Went to look at the post and it was by Jamaicanceo, whom I have on ignore. Went back to the main thread listing and clicked on Maylay Sparks then asked to see all posts. Seems that Maylay Sparks is actually Jamaicanceo.
Nice Try.
Noticed that a new post had been made to this thread by Maylay Sparks. Went to look at the post and it was by Jamaicanceo, whom I have on ignore. Went back to the main thread listing and clicked on Maylay Sparks then asked to see all posts. Seems that Maylay Sparks is actually Jamaicanceo.
Nice Try.Exec Talent,
Whatever else may be going on, I can tell you that Jamaicanceo is NOT Maylay Sparks.
What I suspect happened is that Maylay Sparks posted an antagonistic comment which you saw listed in the index and which I deleted shortly thereafter, apparently almost at the exact same minute that you clicked on it, which resulted in you being presented with Jamaicanceo's post, which was coincidentally at the top of the thread.
Thanks,
Jackson
Exec Talent
12-11-09, 17:11
Exec Talent,
Whatever else may be going on, I can tell you that Jamaicanceo is NOT Maylay Sparks.
What I suspect happened is that Maylay Sparks posted an antagonistic comment which you saw listed in the index and which I deleted shortly thereafter, apparently almost at the exact same minute that you clicked on it, which resulted in you being presented with Jamaicanceo's post, which was coincidentally at the top of the thread.
Thanks,
Jackson
Thanks for clearing that up.
A jet-black girl entered the bar, very tall, slender body, nearly no boobs but with a world class ass, long hair, big eyes and not the best face in the club at that moment but there was an instinctual attraction that moved me towards her. Yet I had to wait because she didn't notice me, a black guy invited her to the bar and kept her busy for good 10 minutes. I waited. He didn't seem interested enough in her because let her move freely again and promptly I snatched her to my place.
Her name was Danubia ("yeah, like the river") and seemed quite a nice person, smiling and funny. I already had no doubt about sessioning with her and a room upstairs was only waiting for us. There, I guess I somehow managed to excite Danubia or perhaps she hadn't had sex in a bunch of time because she became immediately very wet (and by very I mean *very*) and was so passionate that I honestly thought she could have a crush on me. But they are professionals so it's their duty to make us believe so, I repeated to myself. She was very good in making me believe it though, lots of wet kisses, cuddling, cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, a very fast BBBJ, missionary and then ending in cowgirl again. Along all the session she kept loudly breathing, sweating, kissing, trembling even and confessed me that came 3 times. Usually I don't believe much in how many orgasms can a prostitute have but if somebody had asked me to visualize the face of a girl that was having multiple orgasm I would have visualized Danubia's.
So, not the best looking girl, I would have given her a 6, 5, but a genuinely passionate one.
Nice reports, thanks. Danubia is great. Her ass is indeed amazing. She has given me some of the best deep throat BJ's in my life. I was not real happy she got a boob job though. She used to have small perky tits. Highly recommended in duplas too as she sucks some mean pussy.
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Jamaicanceo
12-11-09, 21:06
Exec Talent,
Whatever else may be going on, I can tell you that Jamaicanceo is NOT Maylay Sparks.
What I suspect happened is that Maylay Sparks posted an antagonistic comment which you saw listed in the index and which I deleted shortly thereafter, apparently almost at the exact same minute that you clicked on it, which resulted in you being presented with Jamaicanceo's post, which was coincidentally at the top of the thread.
Thanks,
Jackson
Thanks Jackson for monitoring the board! Good Looking Out!
Member #3439
12-12-09, 05:02
In the interst of providing new perspectives....
So, I made my way to bar 22. Let me say up front, I don't recommend it to many of you because of the grimy facilities and "variable" quality. At its best, it is a place not suited to many gringos. And that night was far from its best and, yet, in a strange way, it was.
As I climbed the narrow stairs, I sensed that something was not right. As I ascended and left the cool damp outside air, it became dense and steamy. The upstairs corridor was choked with people, local guys, stripped to the waist and standing around with a beer in their hand and a few girls. I pushed forward to pay the R12 entry fee (which gets you 3 beers, BTW) and when I got inside the boite, I learned that the AC was out.
I didn't even consider leaaving because I immediately sensed that something was different. Looking around at the sweating bodies, girls glistening as they plied their trade, I was transformed to an earlier time: a time before AC and upscale termas, a time when Rio was undiscovered by gringos and Zona Sul didn't exist. The Lapa was a steamy place with men and women drinking beer on the street and playing out their romances as they came. Everybody (nearly) was stripped to the waist, guys playing pool on the table with the impossibly small pockets. Lots of locals hanging out, a few doing sessions. I thought of those days before silicone, before HIV when you took your chances and got your dose of penicillin if necessary. You might have some explaining to do, but, generally, you didn't die from illicit sex. A simpler time.
Great assessment of Bar 22. I had my first Carioca GdP there, and it was the first Rio p4p place I visited.
It felt...authentic, I guess, in comparison to gringo places like the termas or production line places like BA85.
Next time I hit VM for real 'authentic.' :)
My next Rio work trip is definitely 'on' now, so I am ecstatic and starting to plan...thanks, you guys on the ground in BR, for all the good pricing updates lately...
Chief Justice
12-12-09, 05:48
P.S. = is it normal to not to be impressed so much by Rio's girls as to finding myself longing to be back to Dominican Republic again? I thought Rio would blow away everything else but I don't feel this way now.
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Nice reports, thanks. Danubia is great. Her ass is indeed amazing. She has given me some of the best deep throat BJ's in my life. I was not real happy she got a boob job though. She used to have small perky tits. Highly recommended in duplas too as she sucks some mean pussy.
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NiceDa
You're welcome. I had forgot Danubia's boob job, I guess I was so fascinated by her ass that didn't pay much attention to her tits. And her hard nipples made me forget all there was under them too I guess :-)
You're welcome. I had forgot Danubia's boob job, I guess I was so fascinated by her ass that didn't pay much attention to her tits. And her hard nipples made me forget all there was under them too I guess.Last time I was there she wore a big fishnet "dress" it was more like she put a real tight fishnet on. Her tits and nipples were popping through the big holes. Nothing subtle about it at all. She really has changed over the 15 months I have known her. She used to be an innocent looking young lady and dressed more conservatively. She now drinks the hard stuff and seems to party a lot more. And she is much more aggreesive in the boite. But she seems to be earning a lot more. Good for her. The new tits gave her more confidence. She definately is not a beauty in the face (6. 5 I think you gave her a 6. 5). But she has a great smile and is a great kisser (at least I found her to B.) And she has started wearing shiny colored make-up which can look clown like. But her ass is a work of art, and so is her deep-throat ability (if she is into it.)
I had the best 4-some of my life with her and 2 mulattas. 90 minutes and pure raw carnal debauchery. Danubia was eating the pussies of the other 2 as if she was starved for months. I have only been with her one other time about 8 months ago. I found it be more mechanical than before. I always buy her a drink (if she is hanging out alone) and quickly catch up with her (she does not speak a word of English) and she always introduces me to a number of ladies.
Jamaicanceo
12-12-09, 18:07
It was a Friday and the Centro termas were going to be closed for the weekend and I realized that I hadn't visited any of them. No time to look for hidden gems so I thought that the classic 4x4 was due that day. I took the metro from Siqueira Campos to Uruguaiana and found myself in the middle of a local, busy market. I couldn't read any sign of Rua Buenos Aires but left my luck working for me and the first big street crossing the market was the right one. It's a bit of a walk from the metro exit, left and then up right to near the beginning of the Rua. 4x4 is just a small door and I nearly missed it if wasn't for the security guy outside that looked at me like he could help me. He could.
First, 4x4 is far huger than L'Uomo, like thrice its dimensions. The boite though isn't that big and definetly isn't big enough to contain all the people that frequent it. I entered there around the 15 and there were already 20-25 girls and a dozen of men, making the boite already quite crowded. Most of the men were black americans but the girls told me that italians, germans and brazilians are also quite well represented.
First difference with L'Uomo: the girls aren't on par with the Copa termas. Great bodies as usual but not the same beautiful faces. Not that they were ugly or something like that, not at all, just not as beautiful as at L'Uomo. I'd have rated half of them between 5-6, a ten around 7 and only a handful 8+. Still enough to find a good partner for a session though.
A blonde one, 30 years old probably, approached me. She was called Carla, had a beautiful smile and a way of dancing that I quite liked. Fake tits though but on the touch could have passed for natural ones. She is quite tall too, 180cm or around so.
When she mentioned that in a suite we could have sex in a jacuzzi I was hooked and down again we went (rooms are down the boite, near the men's
Locker-room). She stopped first at the reception to get a couple of condoms (which was completely unneeded because she brought with them in a suitcase enough for a week) and showed me the way for our suite, a lot bigger than at L'Uomo and with shower, wc, tv and our jacuzzi. I showered first and then let her have her turn of washing herself (which always takes more than a man would expect.). She didn't take the same time to fuck me though, she looked as she wanted to end the session very soon and obviously I didn't like it at all. I took my time fucking her doggy, she questioned me if it was normal for me to last that long and I answered positively (which is not always the case but I wanted to be certain that she dropped that hurry she had and relaxed more). My lie didn't worked and Carla looked more and more absent and silent. I came and, instead of letting us shower ourselves or taking a dip in the jacuzzi, Carla asked me if I could massage her back. I usually don't like to receive a massage so I couldn't say I was a fan of giving one too but thought that 5 minutes could have been well spent in trying to relax her for the second round. I did my best, which surely meant a lukewarm quality massage, and then asked her for the jacuzzi. She needed to use the wc first and I waited her for long minutes before she was ready again for me. Unfortunately that gave her the excuse to say that there wasn't enough time to try the jacuzzi too, and she was right because it lacked only ten minutes before the end of the hour. Maybe I was too polite but I let her go, not before being utterly surprised to hear her asking for a tip, that I firmly refused.
I guess she was not pleased with my answer because didn't spoke with me anymore and left my hand after just a couple of meters out of the room's door, leaving me struggling with the labyrintic settings of 4x4 to get back to the showers. Back in the boite I didn't see any girl that I liked much or perhaps I was left in a bad mood by the behaviour of Carla and wasn't hopeful that another girl could have a better professionality. I decided to get back to the hotel, hoping to have a better run at another terma the next day. Perhaps I was just stupid with Carla but after two days at L'Uomo I wouldn't have expected that sort of behaviour from a brazilian girl. Well, lesson learned.
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Lucasur, Carla was an exception of a bad experience at 4x4 from my experience. For her to ask for a massage and a tip on your session time, I'm glad you made this post so other 4x4 mongers will avoid Carla.
Smooth Slim
12-12-09, 19:56
First, 4x4 is far huger than L'Uomo, like thrice its dimensions. The boite though isn't that big and definetly isn't big enough to contain all the people that frequent it. I entered there around the 15 and there were already 20-25 girls and a dozen of men, making the boite already quite crowded. Most of the men were black americans but the girls told me that italians, germans and brazilians are also quite well represented.
A blonde one, 30 years old probably, approached me. She was called Carla, had a beautiful smile and a way of dancing that I quite liked. Fake tits though but on the touch could have passed for natural ones. She is quite tall too, 180cm or around so.
When she mentioned that in a suite we could have sex in a jacuzzi I was hooked and down again we went (rooms are down the boite, near the men's
Locker-room). She stopped first at the reception to get a couple of condoms (which was completely unneeded because she brought with them in a suitcase enough for a week) and showed me the way for our suite, a lot bigger than at L'Uomo and with shower, wc, tv and our jacuzzi. I showered first and then let her have her turn of washing herself (which always takes more than a man would expect.). She didn't take the same time to fuck me though, she looked as she wanted to end the session very soon and obviously I didn't like it at all. I took my time fucking her doggy, she questioned me if it was normal for me to last that long and I answered positively (which is not always the case but I wanted to be certain that she dropped that hurry she had and relaxed more). My lie didn't worked and Carla looked more and more absent and silent. I came and, instead of letting us shower ourselves or taking a dip in the jacuzzi, Carla asked me if I could massage her back. I usually don't like to receive a massage so I couldn't say I was a fan of giving one too but thought that 5 minutes could have been well spent in trying to relax her for the second round. I did my best, which surely meant a lukewarm quality massage, and then asked her for the jacuzzi. She needed to use the wc first and I waited her for long minutes before she was ready again for me. Unfortunately that gave her the excuse to say that there wasn't enough time to try the jacuzzi too, and she was right because it lacked only ten minutes before the end of the hour. Maybe I was too polite but I let her go, not before being utterly surprised to hear her asking for a tip, that I firmly refused.
I guess she was not pleased with my answer because didn't spoke with me anymore and left my hand after just a couple of meters out of the room's door, leaving me struggling with the labyrintic settings of 4x4 to get back to the showers. Back in the boite I didn't see any girl that I liked much or perhaps I was left in a bad mood by the behaviour of Carla and wasn't hopeful that another girl could have a better professionality. I decided to get back to the hotel, hoping to have a better run at another terma the next day. Perhaps I was just stupid with Carla but after two days at L'Uomo I wouldn't have expected that sort of behaviour from a brazilian girl. Well, lesson learned.
Sorry to hear that your 4X4 experience wasn't up to par with Luomo. That is indeed rare. Sounds like Carla took you to the Sultan suite. Nice room but overpriced, especially since she provided less than outstanding service. Generally if a women suggests a room that sends up a red flag that they are trying to inflate their paycheck.
Jamaicanceo
12-12-09, 20:39
Sorry to hear that your 4X4 experience wasn't up to par with Luomo. That is indeed rare. Sounds like Carla took you to the Sultan suite. Nice room but overpriced, especially since she provided less than outstanding service. Generally if a women suggests a room that sends up a red flag that they are trying to inflate their paycheck.
That happened to me at Monte Carlo on my November trip. I don't know the suites, but I noticed on my bill. You experience and learn. The same girl tried to session a day later but I waved her off. So I try now to learn the suites. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying no if you think a girl is trying to get you into a suite that you don't want.
That happened to me at Monte Carlo on my November trip. I don't know the suites, but I noticed on my bill. You experience and learn. The same girl tried to session a day later but I waved her off. So I try now to learn the suites. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying no if you think a girl is trying to get you into a suite that you don't want.
To be honest the problem wasn't in the suite or in Carla trying to upgrade me to it. I was ok with it and am experienced enough to know that it's me that have the choice in which room and for what time I want to stay with a girl.
The problem was that Carla managed to lose so much time that staying in a suite was pointless, no jacuzzi, no showering together, no second round etc. With this kind of service I'd have preferred a simple room and saved some money.
But some of it was my fault, I was too soft with her and the whole 4x4 didn't "click" with me. I find that when I'm not too fond of the club I always make bad decisions. I was too eager to choose a girl and probably I gave her the impression she was in charge of the game.
Dannythedog
12-14-09, 21:56
I am new to the forum but she's one of my favorites, I have been with her few times and as far as I am concerned she is really one of the best there if you like that type of girls.
I haven't seen her in the more conservative version <<without boobs>>and I probably lost something, but anyway she's damned hot.
Last time I was there she wore a big fishnet "dress" it was more like she put a real tight fishnet on. Her tits and nipples were popping through the big holes. Nothing subtle about it at all. She really has changed over the 15 months I have known her. She used to be an innocent looking young lady and dressed more conservatively. She now drinks the hard stuff and seems to party a lot more. And she is much more aggreesive in the boite. But she seems to be earning a lot more. Good for her. The new tits gave her more confidence. She definately is not a beauty in the face (6. 5 I think you gave her a 6. 5). But she has a great smile and is a great kisser (at least I found her to B.) And she has started wearing shiny colored make-up which can look clown like. But her ass is a work of art, and so is her deep-throat ability (if she is into it.)
I had the best 4-some of my life with her and 2 mulattas. 90 minutes and pure raw carnal debauchery. Danubia was eating the pussies of the other 2 as if she was starved for months. I have only been with her one other time about 8 months ago. I found it be more mechanical than before. I always buy her a drink (if she is hanging out alone) and quickly catch up with her (she does not speak a word of English) and she always introduces me to a number of ladies.
I need the boards help!!! I have two non pros that want to go to a swingers club with me! Neither one has ever been to a swingers club before, I havent either, so we have absolutely no idea what to expect. They have both told me that they dont want to try switching partners the first time we go. They both just want to "put on a show" where they can fuck me in a room and have other people watch, but they dont want anyone else joining in.
One of my friends is bi-sexual and she has actually brought girls that she has met in the clubs, back to my apartment so we can both fuck her. Unfortunately, she is only attracted to blond, white girls with big tits (which really isnt my type) but, who am I to turn down pussy? LOL! The other girl is straight, however she is very curious to go to a swingers spot and see what it is all about.
I looked on the internet and I saw a club in Copa called 2A2, it seems like a really nice setup. I have had both girls create fake email addresses and sign up memberships to the place. Has anyone on the board been to this place? Or can you tell me of other swingers clubs that may be best for first timers? What were your experiences there? Was there alot of pressure to swing? How attractive were the women? Can you have sex in the club or is a place where you just meet and greet and then go somewhere else to fuck? Can you just fuck your partner without having other people join in? Looking for any and all information before we go, so i can prepare the girls and myself for the experience.
Hi All
Am in Rio for the next month , if anyones looking for a drinking buddy or termas partner please pm me , i speak fluent portuguese and can help in any GP translation.
Andy
I need the boards help!!!
I looked on the internet and I saw a club in Copa called 2A2, it seems like a really nice setup. Has anyone on the board been to this place? Or can you tell me of other swingers clubs that may be best for first timers? Was there alot of pressure to swing? How attractive were the women? Can you have sex in the club or is a place where you just meet and greet and then go somewhere else to fuck? Can you just fuck your partner without having other people join in? Looking for any and all information before we go, so i can prepare the girls and myself for the experience.
I have been to 2A2, it's a good place, downstairs is a boite upstairs are the rooms for sex.
There is no pressure to swing with others you can stay alone but Thursday nights is singles night so some single women but many single guys will be there, they can be bothersome, grabbing your girls ass as they pass by but just say no and they go away.
If a couple approaches you then just decline or accept no pressure at all.
Not sure if you can bring 2 girls in everynight because it's mainly a couple place but they have special nights for more than a couple like Thursday night.
I also have been to Henry club in Barra, just a touch more upscale place, mostly on Saturday nights but they also have specials, check out their website:
http://www.hcswing.com.br/
Looks like thay have something new at Henry club, on Sundays its Menage day, so bring your 2 girls in:
ATENDENDO A PEDIDOS A PARTIR DE DEZEMBRO MISTA AOS DOMINGOS
Se vc não tem nada para fazer no DOMINGO esta afim de uma noite gostosa com muita sensualidade, venha todos os domingos , as festas mistas são mais apimentadas...Ideal para casais que curtem MENAGE com homens ou mulheres.
Not sure if you can bring 2 girls in everynight because it's mainly a couple place but they have special nights for more than a couple like Thursday night.
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I should have stated it clearer. These are two separate girls! I would be going to the swing club individualy with each one, not as a 3some. I noticed on 2a2, that friday night is "first timers" night. I would never bring either girl on the single men night, both these females are super hot and it would cause a fucking commotion if they acted snobby and only wanted to fuck the american! LOL! Thx for the info on the other place!
Bravo,
I, too, have been to 2a2. It's cramped. The boite area is also small. I did not like it.
The other two clubs are both in Centro. I have not visited either.
Mistura Certa Clube: They have something going on Tuesday through Sat.
http://misturacerta.com.br/
The other club is Club Mix, every Thursday, swing club Festa 18a meets and plays there. The club has several theme floors. I've always wanted to check it out, as it's setup like a regular nightclub.
http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/fc.html
http://festa18arj.ning.com/
http://www.clubmixbar.com.br/cmb.html
I'm familiar with the swing scene. There is never any pressure to participate.
You'll get approached, let them know you're new, and what you're into. They'll respect your wishes.
Your girl will be able to live out her fantasy at either place.
Reading reports and guides here... What sort of a shelter are you guys living in??
Went to VM last night, it was perfectly fine and not even dirty by my standards. Try Dolly (Surabaya ID) or A. Santos street (Angeles City PH).
The cabins were clean... The girls were cheap. I got BBBJ from both.
YMMV.
Reading reports and guides here... What sort of a shelter are you guys living in??
Went to VM last night, it was perfectly fine and not even dirty by my standards. Try Dolly (Surabaya ID) or A. Santos street (Angeles City PH).
The cabins were clean... The girls were cheap. I got BBBJ from both.
YMMV.
Not trying to put down your standards but I have been there also and that place no matter how many times I go is filthy. You can't even have sex without having to put a sheet or towel on the dirty bed. This place is very low end and dirty. The girls don't even look that good unless your desperate to pull a girl just for pussy or feel like looking for a needle in the haystack. But thats just my opinion. This is nothing towards you.
SlimHoleDrill
12-17-09, 02:18
All this swing talk reminds me of a scene in luomo a while back. I'm in the dressing room when this guy comes in with a lady. They must be Americans because she is feeling stressed and taking it out on him. 'What do I do. where do we go, etc.' Many questions, like a machine gun, no time to answer. I'm sure we have all been there. I felt sorry for the guy because he was obviously trying to do something for the two of them but it looked like it was going nowhere.
I found myself wishing they would hook up with Pietra who could knock some sense into her, get out that dildo she keeps for the French amd Italian guys (just quoting her, no offense intended) and give it to one or both of them and calm the whole situation down. Tranquillo!
But I was on the way out so I don't know how it turnd out.
Bottom line, I think most people have to try these more exotic things a few times before they get the hang of it. So tranquillo and good luck.
Picking out a gem in VM is like picking a needle in a haystack?
I would say that picking a suitable girl in Help is much harder work. That is, finding a beautiful, reliable, not spoiled, trustful Help girl that will not overcharge you.
The most beautiful pro I ever seen in Brazil I saw in VM a year ago. She was one of the few pro's I've seen that I would give 10 points without hesitating. I was walking around looking for what to choose. Then I suddenly saw a stunning angel down on the street buying a hot dog. I hurried up to her and told her I wanted a session. She laughed and pointed towards one of the casas "Get in line, you're lucky, right now there is only six guys in front of you." I checked out her casa and yes, there were six guys lined up waiting for their turn. I didn't want to be in that line.
Unfortunately the girl only worked two days a week, then she went back home to the suburbs. This was her second day that week. The following day I had errands to Feira dos Paraiba and thought I was going to try my luck at a sleepy VM around noon. Did I get happy when I passed the angels casa and heard that she was sleeping over in the casa? PLEASE, wake her up!
I got my session. R$ 25. It was absolutely fabulous (specially as the electricity went out and we had to start the session over again). Nice to be the first customer. No chance to take a photo, not even when I offered her R$ 50. Very amazing that she worked at VM and not at a upperclass terma. Two weeks later she wasn't working at VM any more.
Knowing what I have seen and purchased at VM, knowing some of the gems you have purchased and shared, this must have been one super hot lady. The Eden of Rio rarely disappoints.
"The Eden of Rio", nice. I'm looking forward to share an apple with a VM Eve.
(BTW, her name was Viviane).
I returned last week and spent 11 days just in Rio. The weather absolutely sucked! Cloudy everyday, and it rained almost all the time. I've been going down there for over 20 years, and by far the worst weather ever. The prices for everything are outrageous! I only went to 1 restaurant that is well know, that being Porcaos, both in Flamengo and in Ipanema. The food is wonderful, but it's getting just too too pricey! I ate mostly at small restaurants/cafes, and the food is always adequate, yet still too expensive! I was excited to visit Help, and wow, was I disappointed! The dance floor was never crowded, and the crowds and excitement that has always been there in the past just never appeared! I have always enjoyed the beautiful outfits and the sexy dancing that goes on there, its quite a show in itself, but I almost can use the word "boring" to describe my nights there. The music was AWFUL, much worse than in past years. There always are a few incredibly gorgeous women there, but the overall number of women, being so much less than in past years, brought down the number of strikingly beautiful woman way way down! I visited 4x4 and was severely disappointed! Too many women with huge butts, and too large a body for me, and the ratio of guys to girls must have been around 7 or 8 to 1, if not more. Just too crowded for me! Luomo's on the other hand was wonderful, my best memory of this past trip. The atmosphere is much more relaxed, and the girls seem to enjoy chatting with the guys. I had a phenomenal experience there, one that I won't forget for a long while! I felt safer this time than ever before! For the first time I stayed in Copacabana, and I actually prefer it over Ipanema. I stayed at the JW Marriott. It is totally girl friendly, and the girls even had the great breakfast buffet for no charge the following morning if they chose to, and they always did! I know the Olympics are a long ways away for Rio, but it seems to me that they better get there act together, starting sooner, much sooner, than later! They have a tremendous amount of work that needs to be done. Traffic, the airport, the overall lack of nice hotels, the roads, are just a few of the things that need to be improved before the Olympics arrive! These are just a few random thoughts that have come to my mind since my return home last week. Still, even after all my "negative reviews", it is still the most magical city in the world for me. The city gives off a sensuality that is absolutely breathtaking. And the women, well, it is, and always will be a paradise for men. Nowhere in the world can the women of Brazil be equaled in both there beauty, and in there sexuality!
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Picking out a gem in VM is like picking a needle in a haystack?
I would say that picking a suitable girl in Help is much harder work. That is, finding a beautiful, reliable, not spoiled, trustful Help girl that will not overcharge you.
The most beautiful pro I ever seen in Brazil I saw in VM a year ago. She was one of the few pro's I've seen that I would give 10 points without hesitating. I was walking around looking for what to choose. Then I suddenly saw a stunning angel down on the street buying a hot dog. I hurried up to her and told her I wanted a session. She laughed and pointed towards one of the casas "Get in line, you're lucky, right now there is only six guys in front of you." I checked out her casa and yes, there were six guys lined up waiting for their turn. I didn't want to be in that line.
Unfortunately the girl only worked two days a week, then she went back home to the suburbs. This was her second day that week. The following day I had errands to Feira dos Paraiba and thought I was going to try my luck at a sleepy VM around noon. Did I get happy when I passed the angels casa and heard that she was sleeping over in the casa? PLEASE, wake her up!
I got my session. R$ 25. It was absolutely fabulous (specially as the electricity went out and we had to start the session over again). Nice to be the first customer. No chance to take a photo, not even when I offered her R$ 50. Very amazing that she worked at VM and not at a upperclass terma. Two weeks later she wasn't working at VM any more.
This so mirrors my own experience at VM, almost to each sentence, so it's probably the reason I love the place.
Finding a needle in the haystack at VM feels totally wonderful and quite unbeatable. Whereas going to the top termas one expects the jewels to be
lined up ready - which means disappointment if they're not.
I was excited to visit Help, and wow, was I disappointed! The dance floor was never crowded, and the crowds and excitement that has always been there in the past just never appeared! I have always enjoyed the beautiful outfits and the sexy dancing that goes on there, its quite a show in itself, but I almost can use the word "boring" to describe my nights there.
Remember that many of the girls have left Copa to go back home to thier children and families for X-Mas. Also, with the lack of tourists in town, the girls dont want to pay 40R to enter help, if they arent sure they will get a man for the evening. Help really only gets going on Fri & Sat. Best thing to do is wait out front and grab a girl before she enters the club, make her an offer while she is in line, so she doesnt have to waste her money on the entrance fee.
I thought for sure, Chris would have chimed in on this: :)
The Metro-Rio now goes all the way to Ipanema. President Lula came out and inaugurated the new station: General Osório, Monday. (Only took them 30yrs to get there. Hope their Olympic efforts are faster.)
There is also a new connection between Pavuna-Botafogo.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/21/presidente-lula-inaugura-metro-de-ipanema-ligacao-direta-botafogo-pavuna-915306157.asp
Photo gallery at:
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/21/presidente-lula-inaugura-metro-de-ipanema-ligacao-direta-botafogo-pavuna-915306157.asp
Looking at the Metro-Rio website, they haven't updated their maps, as I do not see the new station listed:
http://www.metrorio.com.br/estacoes.htm
I returned last week and spent 11 days just in Rio. The weather absolutely sucked! Cloudy everyday, and it rained almost all the time. I've been going down there for over 20 years, and by far the worst weather ever. The prices for everything are outrageous! I only went to 1 restaurant that is well know, that being Porcaos, both in Flamengo and in Ipanema. The food is wonderful, but it's getting just too too pricey! I ate mostly at small restaurants/cafes, and the food is always adequate, yet still too expensive!. For the first time I stayed in Copacabana, and I actually prefer it over Ipanema. I stayed at the JW Marriott. It is totally girl friendly, and the girls even had the great breakfast buffet for no charge the following morning if they chose to, and they always did!Speak about outrageous prices. 10 nights at the JW Marriott. Must have cost over $3500 US, correct? Did you find the rooms there small? I stayed there for a few nights using my reward points and they gave me an Atrium facing room that was not much bigger than a large walk-in closet. But nice place, nice rooftop (small) pool and nice concierge level members lounge with free breakfast and snacks.
I hear you about the price of Porcaos. I went to a great churrascaria restaurant in a small town near Agua de Prata a few weeks ago. Apaloosa's. The best, most authentic churrascaria I ever ate. They hardly ever see gringos there. Nothing fancy, but a large, clean dining room with tons of Brazilian families out for a Sunday lunch. Great salads, great salmon, deliciously seasoned meats, fresh baked garlic bread, great dessert selection. Great service where I had to slow them down with my red card a few times. I brought the mulata bus ticket agent I have been seeing and helping with her English studies near my home, and the woman that cares for my home and assists with my work, her sister and her sister's 3 y/o son. 4 adults and a child. Drinks, coffee, dessert and tip. Total damage R$132. Was R$19 per person. Plus there was a great little play area for kids. I brought the boy out there when the ladies were having dessert and scored some real brownie points with my date. We spent the entire afternoon and night working off that meal.
Jamaicanceo
12-22-09, 11:54
I thought for sure, Chris would have chimed in on this: :)
The Metro-Rio now goes all the way to Ipanema. President Lula came out and inaugurated the new station: General Osório, Monday. (Only took them 30yrs to get there. Hope their Olympic efforts are faster.)
There is also a new connection between Pavuna-Botafogo.
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/21/presidente-lula-inaugura-metro-de-ipanema-ligacao-direta-botafogo-pavuna-915306157.asp
Photo gallery at:
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/12/21/presidente-lula-inaugura-metro-de-ipanema-ligacao-direta-botafogo-pavuna-915306157.asp
Looking at the Metro-Rio website, they haven't updated their maps, as I do not see the new station listed:
http://www.metrorio.com.br/estacoes.htm
I went to Pavuna (aka, the last metro stop north) last month. It is very poor and sad looking. It became clearer to me why the beautiful girls come to Copa. In Pavuna, the main non government employer was one humble McDonald's near the Metro Station. Before I got off at that stop I saw favelas on both sides of the train.
As for the Ipanema station, it is right at the favela where Ipanema and Copacabana connect, Favela Pavao-Pavaozinho. I was up there on the back of a motorcycle. Also, it is where some of the criminals that are robbing the girls and recently set a bus a fire. I'm sure that station will be heavily guarded, but I wouldn't use it at night. If you miss Cantagalo coming from centro in the evening, make sure you have on running shoes and not flip-flops! And don't be by yourself looking like a gringo.
I was going through some old papers and saw that the entrance to Help in 1992 was 9000 cruzeiros, about US$ 5. Anybody has any knowledge what was the price that the Help-ladies asked for back then? Maybe RioBob knows?
I was going through some old papers and saw that the entrance to Help in 1992 was 9000 cruzeiros, about US$ 5. Anybody has any knowledge what was the price that the Help-ladies asked for back then? Maybe RioBob knows?
Well, I wasn't there in exactly the year 1992 but I was there few years before and a few years after.
As you know the money situation was quite different back then, you could exchange your money on the black market and get 30 to 40% more than the official exchange rate. This made Rio very cheap, Marius with beers was $6.
Copacabana girls never gave me a price at the beginning of the night it was all GFE, they spent the night and next day when leaving they would ask for a "present". I remember paying them less than Amsterdam and Amsterdam had fixed prices of $35 short term. So we probably gave them about $20 to $30 for a nice Copacabana girl for TLN.
Today it's much different, people are advised here to get everything in writing first including price and services. In those days it was really like meeting a girl and having a one night stand, only difference was the small "present" in the morning. Many of these girls would show up the next day and wait outside your hotel, we used to avoid them of course, now I meet their daughters.
Help's staff has appealed to Alerj, the Rio State Worker's Commission to keep Help open til the end of summer.
While the deputies decided the future of the electronic ticket in Parliament, officials of the Club Help in Copacabana, occupied the galleries of Alerj.
With banners in hand, they ask that Help not close Jan 2 as the Governor stated, as it's tourist season. "We need to work til Carnaval," stated Maria Emília Malho, a Rep for the workers.
And today, they're holding a protest at an inauguration for a New Police Station, (the UPP) in Pavão-Pavãozinho.
We, (those that are Pro-Help,) will be deeply indebted to Help's staff, if their efforts are successful.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/12/economia_de_r_200_na_passagem_54757.html
Help's staff has appealed to Alerj, the Rio State Worker's Commission to keep Help open til the end of summer.
While the deputies decided the future of the electronic ticket in Parliament, officials of the Club Help in Copacabana, occupied the galleries of Alerj.
With banners in hand, they ask that Help not close Jan 2 as the Governor stated, as it's tourist season. "We need to work til Carnaval," stated Maria Emília Malho, a Rep for the workers.
And today, they're holding a protest at an inauguration for a New Police Station, (the UPP) in Pavão-Pavãozinho.
We, (those that are Pro-Help,) will be deeply indebted to Help's staff, if their efforts are successful.
http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/12/economia_de_r_200_na_passagem_54757.html"deeply indebted? " Sure. To Help's proprietor's who have transported their employees front and center in their committment to profit. Hope they are just as determined when it comes time to find a new venue. Be there for us, when we need you.
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With banners in hand, they ask that Help not close Jan 2 as the Governor stated, as it's tourist season. "We need to work til Carnaval," stated Maria Emília Malho, a Rep for the workers. ...
Already couple of months ago, Sperto alias Caesar ;) , guess Help due to high business will stay open until carnival, happy you was right :D
Merry Xmas all
I was hoping to maybe locate a map showing the casa numbers of VM. I know many of them come and go but I quite like noting which casa any particular girl is from on any particular occasion, as well as general things about the casa. I've a vague recollection someone might have taken the trouble at some point and have a link - Sperto? - I'm happy to help fill in some numbers if anyone's got an even half completed one. Cheers.
I was hoping to maybe locate a map showing the casa numbers of VM. I know many of them come and go but I quite like noting which casa any particular girl is from on any particular occasion, as well as general things about the casa. I've a vague recollection someone might have taken the trouble at some point and have a link - Sperto? - I'm happy to help fill in some numbers if anyone's got an even half completed one. Cheers.
Sorry, Chris. I've made a map of the 72 (?) casas without numbers (walking around in VM sketching a map made me feel silly even without noting the casa numbers, which not always holds a specific order).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=113686
Numbering the casas at VM I leave up to you. :)
I don't care about the casa numbers as I prefer making a mental note (U-turn alley, right side, first casa after the stairs, big tits...). The girls move around a lot. I've got my good luck-casas where I usually find fresh gems.
Sorry, Chris. I've made a map of the 72 (?) casas without numbers (walking around in VM sketching a map made me feel silly even without noting the casa numbers, which not always holds a specific order).
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=113686
Numbering the casas at VM I leave up to you. :)
I don't care about the casa numbers as I prefer making a mental note (U-turn alley, right side, first casa after the stairs, big tits...). The girls move around a lot. I've got my good luck-casas where I usually find fresh gems.
Cheers - I shall maybe have a go sometime for my own benefit. Or showing a fellow traveller where a decent loo can be found ;) yeah, I usually do the '1st alley, 4th on the right' thing. But if there's a casa that's going great shakes I usually find out the number
One Eyed Man
12-25-09, 23:17
I attended l'Uomo's Christmas party on Wednesday. There were a couple of cuties, but it seemed like the heavy hitters had the night off. Fortunately, the girl that always glues herself to me was not there. In general, there didn't seem to be a lot of business being done in the cabins/suites. I couldn't figure out what they did with the space they gained when they cut the relax room in half, either. It seems now when you pick a girl, they bring you out into the former relax room to sit on this big L-shaped white leather sofa while your girl gets ready, rather than letting you just wait in the boite.
The strangest thing happened, though. For the longest time, people were just standing around looking at each other. At one point, Pietra came up and did a show. I know she used to work at l'Uomo, but I recently saw her working at Monte Carlo--I didn't know girls could work at multiple thermas. I hate Pietra's guts (see a previous report), but I have to admit she has a perfect body: 6' tall, thin legs, natural firm C-cup, and a fantastic ass, but not a really pretty face. She did wish me a Merry Christmas, though, so maybe I'll have to forgive her eventually. I tell you, she's all business: she is always dancing or working customers. I didn't think she landed one, but I did run into her outside the cabins. After l'Uomo closed, I saw her at a juice bar, and she (like all the other l'Uomo girls) looked quite ordinary. After a while, though, everyone had pretty much paired up in the boite (myself included). Total damage for many drinks and an hour in the suite was about R$450 ... this place is getting really expensive.
L'Uomo's New Year's party is, oddly enough, on Dec. 30, not on New Year's Eve, as you might expect. I guess Rio gets too crazy at NYE and it's too hard for the girls to get home after work.
Jamaicanceo
12-26-09, 02:44
I attended l'Uomo's Christmas party on Wednesday. There were a couple of cuties, but it seemed like the heavy hitters had the night off. Fortunately, the girl that always glues herself to me was not there. In general, there didn't seem to be a lot of business being done in the cabins/suites. I couldn't figure out what they did with the space they gained when they cut the relax room in half, either. It seems now when you pick a girl, they bring you out into the former relax room to sit on this big L-shaped white leather sofa while your girl gets ready, rather than letting you just wait in the boite.
The strangest thing happened, though. For the longest time, people were just standing around looking at each other. At one point, Pietra came up and did a show. I know she used to work at l'Uomo, but I recently saw her working at Monte Carlo--I didn't know girls could work at multiple thermas. I hate Pietra's guts (see a previous report), but I have to admit she has a perfect body: 6' tall, thin legs, natural firm C-cup, and a fantastic ass, but not a really pretty face. She did wish me a Merry Christmas, though, so maybe I'll have to forgive her eventually. I tell you, she's all business: she is always dancing or working customers. I didn't think she landed one, but I did run into her outside the cabins. After l'Uomo closed, I saw her at a juice bar, and she (like all the other l'Uomo girls) looked quite ordinary. After a while, though, everyone had pretty much paired up in the boite (myself included). Total damage for many drinks and an hour in the suite was about R$450 ... this place is getting really expensive.
L'Uomo's New Year's party is, oddly enough, on Dec. 30, not on New Year's Eve, as you might expect. I guess Rio gets too crazy at NYE and it's too hard for the girls to get home after work.
I agree with you about Luomo, it is pretty expensive. I was there last month before, Nov 1-12, and the worst times I've had were at Luomo, Monte Carlo and Solarum. I have a trip scheduled for late Jan-early Feb, and I planned the trip mainly for the week days when the downtown termas are open. I don't even think about Centurius. And many of the girls do look very average in their street clothes. But that works in their favor to keep their termas occupation low-key. I dated a terma girl, and she preferred to dress down when she is off work. She wore Chuck Taylor sneakers and regular jeans with plain shirts. Even no jewelry.
At one point, Pietra came up and did a show. I know she used to work at l'Uomo, but I recently saw her working at Monte Carlo--I didn't know girls could work at multiple thermas. I hate Pietra's guts (see a previous report), but I have to admit she has a perfect body: 6' tall, thin legs, natural firm C-cup, and a fantastic ass, but not a really pretty face. She did wish me a Merry Christmas, though, so maybe I'll have to forgive her eventually. I tell you, she's all business: she is always dancing or working customers. I didn't think she landed one, but I did run into her outside the cabins. After l'Uomo closed, I saw her at a juice bar, and she (like all the other l'Uomo girls) looked quite ordinary. After a while, though, everyone had pretty much paired up in the boite (myself included). Total damage for many drinks and an hour in the suite was about R$450 ... this place is getting really expensive.Pietra left MC and is now back at l'Uomo. She certainly is a trip and I can see how she could be alienating to some. But I really see her for what she is - just a fun-loving, devil may care, sex-loving lady. I actually think she may have ADD at times. She is the sexed-up energizer bunny. A bunny that needs occassional cigarette breaks. But I had some of my best times and most amazing sex with her in Rio. Our tall bodies just mesh well and I found her to be tireless in the sack. I have had some overnights with her where we only slept for 30 or 45 minutes at a time. I agree that her face is not the most beautiful in Brazil but she has a very sexy "O" face.
I like when the termas ladies dress down when outside. It is fun to see them for what they are then - girls out in their hometown. When Pietra and I went out to some bars and to grab some quick eats, she wore some sexy jeans, a loose fall off the shoulder top and some funky hats. She also has this slinky full length sun dress that she just slides into and looks amazing in instantly. I'll be in Rio in a few weeks and will be there for her birthday.
John Cricket
12-26-09, 17:37
I was going through some old papers and saw that the entrance to Help in 1992 was 9000 cruzeiros, about US$ 5. Anybody has any knowledge what was the price that the Help-ladies asked for back then? Maybe RioBob knows?In 1992, there were very few prostitutes working Help. They were there, yes, but it wasn't the cattle-call scene one sees today.
If I recall correctly, the price for a program on Copacabana at that time was around 20 dollars US.
Mr Enternational
12-27-09, 01:13
Total damage for many drinks and an hour in the suite was about R$450 ... this place is getting really expensive.
Damn. I don't think I'll ever be R$450 worth of horny.
If you are patient, you can raid the Centro massage parlors for 4 girls and have change for lunch and dinner. That is 8 nuts or more in one day for the extremely active monger amongs us, meals included. It is just a matter of what you value, and most of us have our own preferences. I prefer to get ass the way I go to COSTCO or something: Buy in volume, you can't go wrong :D:
Damn. I don't think I'll ever be R$450 worth of horny.
Total damage for many drinks and an hour in the suite was about R$450 ... this place is getting really expensive.
Why even bother getting on a plane at that price?
I prefer to get ass the way I go to COSTCO or something: Buy in volume, you can't go wrong :D:That has got to be one of the all-time great quotes. It leaves me picturing Voyager1 walking out of the Copacabana "Sam's Club" (they must have one, there's a Sam's Club in Curitiba) with a warehouse pack of garotas. LMAO!
San Diego Law
12-27-09, 03:13
I just returned from 3 weeks in Rio. It was my first time and I don't speak Porto so I had my work cut out for me-but this forum offered a ton of resources for me so I thought I could post my experiences with fellow hobbyists.
Stayed at the Arapador in Ipanema. R250 per night. Nice enough place with a nice piece of beach right out in front of it. Beachfront cafe where on my second day I saw the police shoot and kill two guys in a knifefight with headshots from their assault rifles. Welcome to Rio!
Hotel was moderatly girl friendly. Would only allow me and one other person in room-not even for additional charges so keep that in mind when considering it.
Didn't really know what to expect from the Termas. They are hard to explain if you havn't experienced them. But I dropped my bag off on my bed and was changing into a bathrobe at Monte Carlo about an hour after arriving. Went several times and spent about R400 per-big bar tab with redbulls, etc. Not cheap in the 3rd world.
Relatedly, I had a buddy with me who was with one of the girls (didn't really hang on their names-learning as I am going) who was supper hot for him in the boite, but when they went to the cabin, she broke down and started crying uncontrollably about her boyfriend and she can't do it and blah blah blah. My buddy comes out to let the front desk know about what happened. I have to report that they were very responsive to him and actually gave him a pass on paying that night's tab-and a free cover coupon for his next time. Point being, they asked no questions and wanted us to be as comfortable as possible.
Next night we are waiting in line to pay cover in Help and who is standing behind us-the crying game girl from the Terma. She tried to act like she didn't recognize us. Wish I had her name so everyone could stay away.
Eventually met a girl named Claudia at Help who spoke decent English and liked my buddy. She then introduces me to her friend who was really attractive but spoke no English. No English? No problem. Spent next week with the girl laying on the beach and watching her run around in her g-string and hittin it about 4 times a day. Ultimately she never asked for any money but I gave her R500 for the time. She seemed a little put out about it, not that it was too low, but that I was paying her at all.
That is the beauty of Rio, the combination of beauty and raw sexuality is unbelievable-and everyone I was exposed to had a decent/good attitude. I loved it as a first time traveler and am already planning on going back in Feb or March and learning as much Porto as possible.
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So what if One Eyed Man paid 450R at L'uomos its his money and his vacation, me personally I would went to Help and offered the best looking garota there 450R for TLN/24hrs and got my money's worth or had a Terma garota come over for the 24hrs for that price and bust loads till air comes out....LOL.
New Years shows on Copacabana beach:
(Paralamas with Carlinhos Brown and Lulu Santos sounds promising. Let us hope for just as good weather as last year.)
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Palco Principal: (em frente ao Copacabana Palace)
18h: Orquestra Petrobras Sinfônica
20h: Cerimônia do Pôr do Sol
20:05: Paralamas do Sucesso (Convidado Especial: Carlinhos Brown)
22:05: Lulu Santos
* FOGOS *
0:15: Beth Carvalho
2h: Escola de Samba Acadêmicos do Salgueiro
2h30: DJs
Palco satélite: (em frente a Rua Santa Clara)
18h: Cia. Aplauso
19h: Rita Ribeiro
20h: Cerimônia do Pôr do Sol no Palco Principal
20:05: Ed Motta
21:20: Bangalafumenga
22:35: Roberta Sá
* FOGOS *
0:15: Blitz
Escola de Samba Beija-Flor de Nilópolis
DJs
Palco DJ1: (em frente a Rua Miguel Lemos)
DJ Marcelinho da Lua
* FOGOS *
DJs
Escola de Samba Portela e Marcelinho da Lua
DJs
Palco DJ2: (em frente a Avenida Princesa Isabel)
DJ Marcelo Janot
* FOGOS *
DJs
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Thanks Sperto for posting this!Looks mightily fun! I wish I could be in Rio for the Reveillon! But for next year, I sure will!
For those who will be in Rio during Reveillon, please share your experiences there with the rest of us.
Thanks and all the best of wishes to you all gents!
Cheers.
Jamaicanceo
12-27-09, 08:57
So what if One Eyed Man paid 450R at L'uomos its his money and his vacation, me personally I would went to Help and offered the best looking garota there 450R for TLN/24hrs and got my money's worth or had a Terma garota come over for the 24hrs for that price and bust loads till air comes out....LOL.
Why do we all have to make issue with what some else does with his money. Let's talk about how we all enjoy spending our money. I think there are R75.00 experiences and R450.00 experiences. The important issues is sharing information. Some people have more money than others, or do not care about spending money. So money is not the issue to compete or criticize. However. I would spend that many reais. My Nov 2009 I made some rookie mistakes, but my Jan 2010 I will be wiser from what you guys share. But let's not be judgmental.
Damn. I don't think I'll ever be R$450 worth of horny.So easy to come on here and just throw down against someone. And then have others pile on. Everyone makes their own money and can spend it as they see fit.
You guys did not even seem to read his entire sentence (where he mentioned "many drinks"). Drinks add up, at dinner, at clubs, at termas. And it seems they are only getting more expensive. I enjoy the termas if I drink less or not at all. I have never been a big drinker anyway. And I certainly enjoy it more when paying my bill on the way out. If you use the termas promotions you can save some coin too. To each his own.
And if you start talking about running around other parts of Rio to save money, you need to factor in what is the value of your time. Convenience has its own price. I value my time at a certain amount per hour as that is what I could make if I was using it for business. I am probably a bit different than most here in that regard as I am working when I am here. But I think it is good to think that way. That is why I stay in Centro for part of my visit and then near the beach for Friday and the weekend.
And good luck "pulling" a termas lady or a top lady from Help for a "full 24 hours" for R$450 so you can start "shooting air." Only if you have developed somewhat of a relationship and/or buy them meals and take them out. There is a cost there too. (Not sure I could personally stand to spend that much time with one lady unless she was bright and a good conversationalist too.)
I guess my point is everything has some cost associated with it. And if someone wants to spend their money on something it is his choice. Now that I am here much more often and for longer stays I am learning how to budget my activities and to find values. The biggest change has been the regular dating I have started to do in the town I have a home in.
Free Floater
12-27-09, 20:16
I have not seen these on Sperto´s list. Only Apto 202 has been mentioned on YellowBlowFish and by Christopherd.
All three of them are small places, comparable to a floor in Buenos Aires 85. I liked Apto 701 best.
- Apto 202
3 BRL entrance.
- Apto 701
I liked this place. Don´t know why. They even have a toilet and a shower you can use.
- Apto 702
Entrance right next to 701. They aggressively try to lure customers away from App 701. Service is good nevertheless.
SlimHoleDrill
12-28-09, 11:26
...
The Metro-Rio now goes all the way to Ipanema. President Lula came out and inaugurated the new station ...
I rode it the first day. I was amazed that they actually had it running. Conventional wisdom was that the station would open, but the trains would come later. They had some glitches, like the maps not being updated, turnstiles not working that morning (so I Got a free ride!) and the trains were running slow but it was open.
The residents of Ipanema have mixed feelings. It is great for getting around, but it also makes it easy to get TO Ipanema. I think I detected a larger than usual beach crowd this weekend around Texeiro de Melo, maybe because of people riding the metro? People are worried it will change things and not for the better. We'll see.
But it is great for getting downtown.
SlimHoleDrill
12-28-09, 12:27
I was going through some old papers and saw that the entrance to Help in 1992 was 9000 cruzeiros, about US$ 5. Anybody has any knowledge what was the price that the Help-ladies asked for back then? Maybe RioBob knows?
I agree it was between 20 and 40 dollars. There was definitely a pro scene but mostly in places like Barbarella and Erótica. On the beach, Mabs was a big hangout and there were several other places as well. But the scale was totally different.
It's been a long tine but I do remember one data point where I met an incredible number in Erótica, home for the night then she went home to get clothes and hung around all that day until I had to catch a flight that night. Total GFE from Fortaleza. Her wildest dream was to get $100 which I didn't quite satisfy. As has
been said, cash was a problem. No ATMS, so you had to bring cash or travellers checks which were not good because they were exchanged at the official rate so you lost 40%. So you needed to bring cash and I always seemed to under estimate because you needed to pay everything in cash. If you put the hotel on a credit card, they would use the official rate and bump it up to their estimate of what the official rate would be when it settles. So you didn't pay with cc. The rates changed so fast I changed money twice a day, usually with the bellboy. (This is a composite of somewhat vague memories from the late 80s to early 90s.)
Anyway, I gave her all my remaining money which brought the whole thing to maybe $50. I'm pretty sure a programa with a Mabs girl in one of the short time places in Lido was $30 which included $10 for the hotel.
Those were the days. Sigh.
SlimHoleDrill
12-28-09, 13:24
I have not seen these on Sperto´s list. Only Apto 202 has been mentioned on YellowBlowFish and by Christopherd.
All three of them are small places, comparable to a floor in Buenos Aires 85. I liked Apto 701 best.
- Apto 202
3 BRL entrance.
- Apto 701
I liked this place. Don´t know why. They even have a toilet and a shower you can use.
- Apto 702
Entrance right next to 701. They aggressively try to lure customers away from App 701. Service is good nevertheless.
Thanks for the info. Can you give ratings for cabin, service, standard and WV ala Sperto? Or at least price?
I have been to Rio several times, but not very experienced with the Centro termas. I think they open ~noon; I have visited ~2pm and found them somewhat quiet and visited after 5pm to find it very crowded / hard to nail good chicas. Any views on what the best time is to visit? Also, I have tried 4x4 and Rosario and found especially 4x4 to have a great, large selection. Any other places worth noting? I'm not looking for budget places.
I know the topic is somewhat on the beaten path, but thought maybe a little bit of nuance that someone can help with.
Thanks much in advance.
Planning to visit mid-Jan and trying to get an idea of how the season is shaping up. Is it a strong season? Many gringos / europeans? Last year was great as the economy was down and if you were there, you could have your pick of chicas.
I have been to Rio several times, but not very experienced with the Centro termas. I think they open ~noon; I have visited ~2pm and found them somewhat quiet and visited after 5pm to find it very crowded / hard to nail good chicas. Any views on what the best time is to visit? Also, I have tried 4x4 and Rosario and found especially 4x4 to have a great, large selection. Any other places worth noting? I'm not looking for budget places.
I know the topic is somewhat on the beaten path, but thought maybe a little bit of nuance that someone can help with.
Thanks much in advance.Many Centro casas open at 10. 10:30 or 11 seem to be good before the lunch rush and the girls are still fresh.
In my opinion is right after they open. Most of them open by 10:00am so, I usually am at hteir doors no later than 10:30 for some fun. This is where I take advantage and do my duplas and so on for a very decent price (Less than BR200). If you dig throught the forum, try the ones Rio Branco 156. Someone made a really great map with casas you could try.
I have been to Rio several times, but not very experienced with the Centro termas. I think they open ~noon; I have visited ~2pm and found them somewhat quiet and visited after 5pm to find it very crowded / hard to nail good chicas. Any views on what the best time is to visit? Also, I have tried 4x4 and Rosario and found especially 4x4 to have a great, large selection. Any other places worth noting? I'm not looking for budget places.
I know the topic is somewhat on the beaten path, but thought maybe a little bit of nuance that someone can help with.
Thanks much in advance.
Patrik Miller
12-29-09, 21:16
Hi All
Am in Rio for the next month , if anyones looking for a drinking buddy or termas partner please pm me , i speak fluent portuguese and can help in any GP translation.
AndyHi Andy
I would like to drink a beer with you. I arrived today and I am new to this city. Sorry I cant sent PM.
Hope to hear from you.
Pat
Member #4156
12-29-09, 21:26
I rode it the first day. I was amazed that they actually had it running. Conventional wisdom was that the station would open, but the trains would come later. They had some glitches, like the maps not being updated, turnstiles not working that morning (so I Got a free ride!) and the trains were running slow but it was open.
The residents of Ipanema have mixed feelings. It is great for getting around, but it also makes it easy to get TO Ipanema. I think I detected a larger than usual beach crowd this weekend around Texeiro de Melo, maybe because of people riding the metro? People are worried it will change things and not for the better. We'll see.
But it is great for getting downtown.
That's good stuff right there. Lack of metro availability was my ONLY lament for staying in Ipanema in the past. Looks like where I'll be going residing my next trip.
This is my last post. I really just wanted to thank all the senior members here that supplied such great info that greatly assisted my mongering efforts.
My membership is up and I will not be renewing. I had an incredible week. I have been dating a beautiful young mulata lady in the town where I own a home in Brasil. I was dating others but stopped seeing them as I really enjoyed her company the most. Just a lovely young lady that is studying English, and focused on making a better life for herself. She is terrific.
At any rate, perhaps it is the whole New Year's vibe thing, but the other night I made her dinner and she starts asking about my business trips around Brasil, my trips to Sao Paulo and Rio. I am an honest and forthright person. I had told her upfront that I was really involved in some business projects that will require a great deal of my focus and was not looking for a committed relationship. So I decided to tell her about my mongering activities. I knew this might risk losing her but I really felt like talking about this as it was in the forefront of my mind. I guess I have been reflecting as part of the whole end of year self evaluation we all seem to do. To my great surprise she really was understanding and we even discussed the different attitudes/types of mongers. Truth is I have long been conflicted with some of the attitudes some guys have towards the working ladies. I have made that known here.
At any rate, she actually told me that she wanted to experiment with me. She has been bi-curious and wanted to experience a woman too. My stories of duplas really turned her on. So last night, we hooked up with another lady she knows and it was amazing. It was better than any dupla I ever paid for. She was so caring and excited and a real lady. It was a true mind-f. The last few months have been a blur here in Brasil. I just want to focus all my energies on my business, my Porto studies and experiencing everything in Brasil with her riding shotgun.
Again, I thank all those who were so supportive and provided great info. I tried to give back in my own limited way.
And to all the guys that do not feel that the ladies should be treated as true human beings I truly hope you can do some self-reflection. (What would your mammas think?)
And to those that could not take a joke, how about 5 slaps from 5 different hands (I think that was the threat.)
I wish you all happiness and success in 2010 and beyond.
Jamaicanceo
12-31-09, 07:36
This is my last post. I really just wanted to thank all the senior members here that supplied such great info that greatly assisted my mongering efforts.
My membership is up and I will not be renewing. I had an incredible week. I have been dating a beautiful young mulata lady in the town where I own a home in Brasil. I was dating others but stopped seeing them as I really enjoyed her company the most. Just a lovely young lady that is studying English, and focused on making a better life for herself. She is terrific.
At any rate, perhaps it is the whole New Year's vibe thing, but the other night I made her dinner and she starts asking about my business trips around Brasil, my trips to Sao Paulo and Rio. I am an honest and forthright person. I had told her upfront that I was really involved in some business projects that will require a great deal of my focus and was not looking for a committed relationship. So I decided to tell her about my mongering activities. I knew this might risk losing her but I really felt like talking about this as it was in the forefront of my mind. I guess I have been reflecting as part of the whole end of year self evaluation we all seem to do. To my great surprise she really was understanding and we even discussed the different attitudes/types of mongers. Truth is I have long been conflicted with some of the attitudes some guys have towards the working ladies. I have made that known here.
At any rate, she actually told me that she wanted to experiment with me. She has been bi-curious and wanted to experience a woman too. My stories of duplas really turned her on. So last night, we hooked up with another lady she knows and it was amazing. It was better than any dupla I ever paid for. She was so caring and excited and a real lady. It was a true mind-f. The last few months have been a blur here in Brasil. I just want to focus all my energies on my business, my Porto studies and experiencing everything in Brasil with her riding shotgun.
Again, I thank all those who were so supportive and provided great info. I tried to give back in my own limited way.
And to all the guys that do not feel that the ladies should be treated as true human beings I truly hope you can do some self-reflection. (What would your mammas think?)
And to those that could not take a joke, how about 5 slaps from 5 different hands (I think that was the threat.)
I wish you all happiness and success in 2010 and beyond.
Good luck, and I hope it all works out for you. Happy New Year! Thanks for your information and opinions, regardless of what I think. We all have our opinions and ours were appreciated.
At any rate, she actually told me that she wanted to experiment with me. She has been bi-curious and wanted to experience a woman too. My stories of duplas really turned her on. So last night, we hooked up with another lady she knows and it was amazing. It was better than any dupla I ever paid for. She was so caring and excited and a real lady. .
I wish you the best of luck, and a word of caution too. I know a few guys who thought they had hit the lottery by hooking up with bi-sexual women. Their words were "Yeah, it was fantastic at first, 3somes with other hot chicks. Then one day you come home to find some huge, manly looking, bulll-dyke with a 12 inch strap on, pounding the shit out of your lady's asshole!!" They all told me the same thing, at first their girlfriends was only attracted to pretty, feminine lesbians, but after a while, they want to experiment more! Next thing you know, she has a bull dyke who is taking over your position!!
I agree it was between 20 and 40 dollars. There was definitely a pro scene but mostly in places like Barbarella and Erótica. On the beach, Mabs was a big hangout and there were several other places as well. But the scale was totally different.
It's been a long tine but I do remember one data point where I met an incredible number in Erótica, home for the night then she went home to get clothes and hung around all that day until I had to catch a flight that night. Total GFE from Fortaleza. Her wildest dream was to get $100 which I didn't quite satisfy. As has
been said, cash was a problem. No ATMS, so you had to bring cash or travellers checks which were not good because they were exchanged at the official rate so you lost 40%. So you needed to bring cash and I always seemed to under estimate because you needed to pay everything in cash. If you put the hotel on a credit card, they would use the official rate and bump it up to their estimate of what the official rate would be when it settles. So you didn't pay with cc. The rates changed so fast I changed money twice a day, usually with the bellboy. (This is a composite of somewhat vague memories from the late 80s to early 90s.)
Anyway, I gave her all my remaining money which brought the whole thing to maybe $50. I'm pretty sure a programa with a Mabs girl in one of the short time places in Lido was $30 which included $10 for the hotel.
Those were the days. Sigh.
Yeah, Help wasn't such a mongering place back then, mostly a non pro pick up place if you could.
Club Erotika was a place I frequented often, different locatrion then where it is today, it was on Princess Isabella Blvd back then and a pretty big space. They had shows music and plenty of girls hanging around.
Barbarellas was in a different location too as to where it is today. I went there a few times but I preferred the girls on Copa because fo the cheaper prices, Barbarellas was always more money but they were top quality even then.
Attached is a picture of Help circa 1986, looks like it needed a face lift even then, notice the vintage cars.
John Cricket
01-01-10, 16:46
Yeah, Help wasn't such a mongering place back then, mostly a non pro pick up place if you could.
Club Erotika was a place I frequented often, different locatrion then where it is today, it was on Princess Isabella Blvd back then and a pretty big space. They had shows music and plenty of girls hanging around.
Barbarellas was in a different location too as to where it is today. I went there a few times but I preferred the girls on Copa because fo the cheaper prices, Barbarellas was always more money but they were top quality even then.
Attached is a picture of Help circa 1986, looks like it needed a face lift even then, notice the vintage cars.That's news to me about Barbarela. Where was it back then?
Help was a middle-class kids' disco. Something like Nuth. Back in the 1980s and early '90s. It's where today's Lapa set hung out. They even had teen matinés back then.
In my opinion is right after they open. Most of them open by 10:00am so, I usually am at hteir doors no later than 10:30 for some fun. This is where I take advantage and do my duplas and so on for a very decent price (Less than BR200). If you dig throught the forum, try the ones Rio Branco 156. Someone made a really great map with casas you could try.
I have seen that a lot of fresh talent tends to come in ~5pm, but of course, so do a lot of punters, in the centro termas.
Mr Enternational
01-01-10, 19:26
I wish you the best of luck, and a word of caution too. I know a few guys who thought they had hit the lottery by hooking up with bi-sexual women. Their words were "Yeah, it was fantastic at first, 3somes with other hot chicks. Then one day you come home to find some huge, manly looking, bulll-dyke with a 12 inch strap on, pounding the shit out of your lady's asshole!!" They all told me the same thing, at first their girlfriends was only attracted to pretty, feminine lesbians, but after a while, they want to experiment more! Next thing you know, she has a bull dyke who is taking over your position!!
Now that is some funny shit. But good luck to you Hughdad and thanks for your posts.
This is my last post. [...]
I wish you all happiness and success in 2010 and beyond.Thank you, Hughdad. Same wishes for you. I appreciated your contributions.
Walker
I'm fascinated by Vila Mimosa and am torn as to whether to visit or not. I speak portuguese and would not have a problem getting in and out of the place.
However, even if I pick a healthy looking garota, what are my chances of picking up a STI versus say a garota in 4X4 or a Clinica?
Sperto - would appreciate you 2 cents if you are online.
Jamaicanceo
01-02-10, 05:21
I'm fascinated by Vila Mimosa and am torn as to whether to visit or not. I speak portuguese and would not have a problem getting in and out of the place.
However, even if I pick a healthy looking garota, what are my chances of picking up a STI versus say a garota in 4X4 or a Clinica?
Sperto - would appreciate you 2 cents if you are online.
I would think if your incline in risky sex, don't eat the pussy and drink the water, and wear a condom at VM! A friend of mine's teeth fell out and he got a belly ache and became a baby daddy. Now he goes to VM to visit his name sake! Haha!
Hughdad,
I enjoyed your posts which were quite refreshing as it brought real experiences of what can be achieved with non pros if one were to invest the time. All the best in all your endeavours.
Cheers.
I'm fascinated by Vila Mimosa and am torn as to whether to visit or not. I speak portuguese and would not have a problem getting in and out of the place.
However, even if I pick a healthy looking garota, what are my chances of picking up a STI versus say a garota in 4X4 or a Clinica?
Sperto - would appreciate you 2 cents if you are online.
Paddy - I'm sure you realise as much as anyone the incongruities in your post, but it's the sort of question almost anyone might ask. I wonder if I can try to answer sensibly (Sperto has jumped on a plane afaaik).
Firstly, Brasil is a world leader in the use of condoms and the fight against sexually transmitted diseases including HIV. This is attested on many professional forums and conferences and many, many papers (example (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/354/19/1977)). So statistically you are better off than in many countries. Especially better than most developing countries (many of which have a poor condom implementation record, whether by their own stupidity or 'aided' by GW Bush's short-sighted programs, to name a few). It's on a par with the West.
But statistics don't help if you are unlucky. Condoms are very freely available, in VM as everywhere else in Brasil, together with prominent safer sex notices. But the practice still depends to a large extent on the male. Which is the first implied and erroneous assumption - the idea that responsibility can somehow be delegated to a female and, fingers crossed with a wing and prayer, she's clean.
The second implied and seriously erroneous assumption is that paying more money or having sex in more hygienic surroundings reduces the risk of catching a sexually transmitted diseasse. Of course, it doesn't. Or perhaps a class thing - that a girl from a poorer background is more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease - again, untrue. Social parameters affect health generally, but the classifications that apply in many countries (eg USA) do not apply in Brasil. For instance, ". . . studying AIDS cases during the 1980s among adult women from the municipality of Rio de Janeiro found an even higher percentage of the disease among family women than among prostitutes." (Koifman et al quoted here (http://www.tc.columbia.edu/cice/archives/3.1/31desousa.pdf)). Drug injecting practices are perhaps one of the identifiable factors however.
Hidden support mechanisms also have an effect. There is a very active network of safe sex support in VM (as there is most main areas where prostitution occurs in Rio). Warnings, health care, condom availability and general awareness.
I am not saying you are more likely to pick something up in 4x4, but there are many instances of mongers who have reported some terma girls' willingness to go bareback once they get to know you. I've yet to hear of a VM girl offering sex without protection (and have never been offered it, in hundreds of sessions).
But back to the real responsibility and how he can take it seriously - ie the monger. In VM you will not always have good lighting conditions to examine for track marks or obvious signs of illness. You may be less prepared, less aware, less on your guard. Or maybe not. It depends on you. As for going down on a lady, I use the same rule everywhere - if it smells nice, tastes nice, and I want to, then I may well go for it. A bad smell or taste is offputting - although it is only possibly indicative of a small range of sexually transmitted diseases and may be indicative of none. But good taste and safe sex do not always (or hardly ever) overlap.
One thing I would say about VM is that girls are in a more independent environment. You can pick up a lot of things from their social interactions (with you and each other) that would be airbrushed out of existence in 4x4.
This is not an answer one way or the other about your 'likelihood' of picking up a sexually transmitted disease in VM. Any more than it is an answer about whether you are more likely to get sunburnt on Copa or Ipanema beach.
The advice, as always, is wear sunscreen. ;)
Thanks Christopherd - You have answered my question fully and comprehensively.
I thought this comment was especially well-made:
"The second implied and seriously erroneous assumption is that paying more money or having sex in more hygienic surroundings reduces the risk of catching a sexually transmitted diseasse. Of course, it doesn't. Or perhaps a class thing - that a girl from a poorer background is more likely to have a sexually transmitted disease - again, untrue. Social parameters affect health generally, but the classifications that apply in many countries (eg USA) do not apply in Brasil."
From what you say about VM and from what I know about sexual health promotion in Brazil generally, it would appear that the country is really an exception in this regard. I just wanted to check if the 'social parameters' test as applied elsewhere would be equally true in Brazil.
And for the record I am not remotely interested in bareback or other risky behaviors.
Feliz 2010.
Prices at 4 X 4 went up by BR10. So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 :mad:! So far there has not been an Olympic sized rise in prices, but I am not holding my breath. I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ;)... As far as it is being reported, the entrance fee is still BR 40 and they waive the entry fee if you session before 5:00pm. I guess I'm going to have to get up early :D
Hi Guys,
Been here for two weeks and haven't had a problem, due to diligence and following advice from some of the mongers on this forum.
However...
Last night I went with a GDP called Camilla whom I met in Balcony. She is a hard body with fake boobs, big firm booty and an ultra flat stomach. She has what I imagine to be a little plastic surgery on her face as her nose is very sculpted and she also has slight pockmarking on her cheeks from past acne. Straight black hair that is naturally curly (so she told me).
She wanted R300 but I got her down to R200 for two hours. More than I would normally pay but her body was incredibly tight.
The session was very sterile. She wasn't really into it, wouldn't kiss or do uncovered blow job, wanted the money up front and spent ages in the bathroom. I felt a little bit sad that she didn't enjoy it as I've had some really fun GDPs in the past who seem to enjoy their work immensely.
I put it down to experience. BUT this morning I woke up and went to put on my beach shorts to find they've disappeared. I've searched all over my miniscule apartment but to no avail. Granted it was a full moon last night so I may have eaten them or flung them out the window in a fit of lunacy but I have my suspicions she may have taken them. (They are rather nice!) All my valuables were locked away so nothing else is gone.
I wonder if anyone else has experienced Camilla and did anything go missing? I don't want to think bad of her but after searching and searching my flat can only assume she left with them in her bag. I hope I'm wrong.
...So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 :mad:!......I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ;)...
I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.
Jamaicanceo
01-02-10, 21:21
Prices at 4 X 4 went up by BR10. So if you session for one hour, the going rate is now BR 220 :mad:! So far there has not been an Olympic sized rise in prices, but I am not holding my breath. I should be there Tuesday!!! I can't wait ;)... As far as it is being reported, the entrance fee is still BR 40 and they waive the entry fee if you session before 5:00pm. I guess I'm going to have to get up early :D
If they raise the price for the Olympics it will hurt them. The Olympics are for people who fly to Rio for the Olympics, and not garota da programma. Most Olympic fans will be on official business or with friends and families, on tight Olympic game ticket schedules. Let alone getting stuck on the metro or street traffic trying to make each event on-time. Us mongers will only know where to go, and only will be there for mongering. So if the termas try and be greedy on their prices, some of us will go else where. I'm sure Barra Tijuca termas will love taking business fron Copa termas. And the downtown termas will not get much business during the Olympics, because the Olympic traffic will be a factor, and most people will get intimidating walking on BA to get to the termas I frequent. Then I keep numbers of termas girls who freelance, as well as girls who keep their visitations to apartments bet R150-200.
As for renting apartments, if Help ever closes, the many Copa girls will now longer afford their apartments. there will be rooming 30 girls, sleeping in shifts, by pooling apartment money. This will cause many available apartments after and before the Olympics at a cheaper rate for mongers.
Jamaicanceo
01-02-10, 21:23
I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.
When they go up on their entrance and session prices. Mongers will leave the drink buying to the bare chested Brazilians who can't afford to session.
Exec Talent
01-03-10, 01:05
Rio merchants, restaurants and taxi drivers keep on gouging and soon you will have no tourists here. On the plane to Rio December 30, based upon the line at immigration about 90% of the passengers were Brazilian. Went to Siqueira Grill tonight and it was about 50% full. Why? Prices up 25% and R$13 Caipirinhas could have had something to do with it. Taxis on New Year’s Eve were asking R$50 to go anywhere. People were just walking away and taking the bus.
One of the reasons I am doing business in Brazil is because Brazilians suck at marketing, management and economics. Interestingly enough there is technology infrastructure in place (which they have no clue how to use).
Keep it up Brazilians and the World Cup and Olympics will be minor blips on an investment for which you will never get a return.
Jamaicanceo
01-03-10, 04:21
Rio merchants, restaurants and taxi drivers keep on gouging and soon you will have no tourists here. On the plane to Rio December 30, based upon the line at immigration about 90% of the passengers were Brazilian. Went to Siqueira Grill tonight and it was about 50% full. Why? Prices up 25% and R$13 Caipirinhas could have had something to do with it. Taxis on New Year’s Eve were asking R$50 to go anywhere. People were just walking away and taking the bus.
One of the reasons I am doing business in Brazil is because Brazilians suck at marketing, management and economics. Interestingly enough there is technology infrastructure in place (which they have no clue how to use).
Keep it up Brazilians and the World Cup and Olympics will be minor blips on an investment for which you will never get a return.
That's some good insight. In my impression, Brazil's economy is mostly speculation. Embratur, the official tourist agency for the government, is barely 2 years old. So they do not have the best marketing and planning professionals. There focus is not Rio de Janeiro, because too many poor cariocas from impoverish regions have over-run the tourist areas. My contacts in Embratur say they are promoting places like more European oriented Florianopolis, Santa Catarina...yuck! Of course the folks in Embratur are European descendant Brazilians, rather than the morenas and others.
Hi guys,
I posted earlier today about Camilla and my disappearing shorts (I loved those shorts. I bought a new pair today but they're elasticated in the waist which makes my love handles bulge and the material on my inner thigh rides up. I want my shorts back.)
Shorts aside, I wanted to say a couple of things. I've been having breakfast in a little cafe next to Wind Sucos on the corner of Prado Junior and Nossa Senhora in Leme. Same thing every day – Acai, coffee (made with little care or expertise) and an omelette. Three rainy days ago this one teenage chick rocked up with a little girl in tow, both on roller blades. She was larking around and I thought she wasn't more than 14 or 15, playing with a new Christmas present. But she kept looking over at me. I avoided her eye but as she left I looked over and she blew me a kiss. Dangerous territory, I thought and left it at that. Two minutes later she was back, on her roller blades with her little friend and handed me her number. Bold as brass! The cafe workers were laughing. She then left and I told them in my halting Portuguese that she was too young for me. They said it didn't matter in Rio. Fuck that, I thought, with visions of being arrested for having sex with a minor.
Then she returned, in make-up and changed out of her shorts into a dress. She stood in front of me to say, 'Well, what do you think?' I explained she was too young but she pulled out her ID card and was indeed 18. I asked the cafe workers if she was dangerous or safe and they all said she was a good girl. I asked if she was a GDP and they replied more or less. All the encouragement I needed.
As I left with her on my arm they said she'd want R50. We spent the next three hours fucking; BBBJ, anal, the lot. At first she didn't want me to see her front on because it turns out that although she's only 18 she has stretch marks from two kids. Two! I didn't mind cos she had a fine, firm sticky out arse that more than compensated for her stretch marks.
We played some music on YouTube (she could barely type and didn't really know how to use a dictionary which made me think how ignorant she must have been. She knew how to fuck, her one skill and was working it hard, but I felt a little bad that this lovely young thing wouldn't have the chance to be more than a mum and a GDP. But not that bad!)
She left me exhausted but happy for such a chance encounter to be so cheap and enjoyable. I almost gave her some more cash, but didn't have any change. Last night I bumped into her in Balcony. She pinched my arse and didn't bother me in the slightest. I'm sure experience will toughen her attitude but I am glad we met. If you speak to a young girl with a curvy firm little body, asiatic eyes, brown shoulder length hair and a filthy laugh ask her if her name's Daiana. If she says yes, treat her well.
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This is my second year in Rio. Such a blast I had last year I thought I'd return. A year on the lure of the girls has dulled a little. I suppose I'm a year older and all new toys lose their novelty, but there's still lots of hotties out there and the urge to indulge takes me every couple of days or so.
I had a great first fuck with a firm, big-but-real-titted girl I met outside Help in the first week which got me off to a good start. She was genuinely pleasant and helped ease me into my holiday.
Last year on my last night I met a girl in Monte Carlo called Fernanda or Nanda for short. I put a post on here about how hot she was. I even emailed her a couple of times but didn't get a reply to the second one and realised it was fanciful at best. I'm under no illusion!
I kind of hoped to see her again, in a woefully pitiful way, just for old times' sake but she wasn't working last Sunday night when I revisited old territory. A year in the wilderness created a stomach full of butterflies on entering the den of lust. The smell of the shower facilities and the idea of almost being on show for the girls to focus their attentions on making me giddy for a moment. I put on my robe and flip flops (the equivalent of a cardigan and slippers, but for a sex fiend!) and stepped into the fray.
As usual the ugly ones made a beeline for me hoping I was a rookie they could turn with a soft caress of his inner thigh, but I remembered the mongering advice and last year's experience and motioned as politely as I could that I was just looking at the moment, muito obrigado.
A couple of big arsed Mulattas took my attention by their sheer physicality. Oh, to climb on board and enjoy the firmly cushioned ride; but I bided my time getting my money's worth of eye candy, until this slim, Euro looking blonde chick, who reminded me of Alicia Silverstone, caught me eye from the bar. She had very small tits, covered by a little bikini and was wearing a thong that showed an arse belonging to a different racial group. The top half was all European but the bottom was all Brazilian! The clincher, beside the lilting smile and gentle ways was the high-heeled shoes with wrap-around-the-calf laces. That did it for me. Just one more question stood in my way: 'Voce faz todo? '
'Sim! ' she laughed.
Off we went for 40 mins of sheer pleasure. What a way to spend a Sunday. I only wish I could remember her name. I'll be back before I go and will let you know in case you wish to book her yourselves.
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I believe you.... 4x4 is always 4x4, but if I remember correctly one hour was 180 BR in september, 40 BR in couple of months is a lot especially if they do not stop to raising in price.
It went up in November. $200R for 40mins and $220R for 1 hour. $40R entrance after 5pm, but $50R if you leave without doing anything. Plus the kicker 4% tax if you use a credit card:-(
If they raise the price for the Olympics it will hurt them. The Olympics are for people who fly to Rio for the Olympics, and not garota da programma. Most Olympic fans will be on official business or with friends and families, on tight Olympic game ticket schedules. Let alone getting stuck on the metro or street traffic trying to make each event on-time. Us mongers will only know where to go, and only will be there for mongering. So if the termas try and be greedy on their prices, some of us will go else where. I'm sure Barra Tijuca termas will love taking business fron Copa termas. And the downtown termas will not get much business during the Olympics, because the Olympic traffic will be a factor, and most people will get intimidating walking on BA to get to the termas I frequent. Then I keep numbers of termas girls who freelance, as well as girls who keep their visitations to apartments bet R150-200.
As for renting apartments, if Help ever closes, the many Copa girls will now longer afford their apartments. There will be rooming 30 girls, sleeping in shifts, by pooling apartment money. This will cause many available apartments after and before the Olympics at a cheaper rate for mongers.The girls pay for their 'apartments' monthly something like 400 reales. In interior Brazil. Maybe also true in zona norte do Rio. The cost of rent is pegged to the value of 'one monthly salary. ' As for your Olympic predictions. If the Pan Am Games were any kind of indicator, guys who wanted to get laid whilst in Rio got laid.
SlimHoleDrill
01-03-10, 14:29
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Club Erotika was a place I frequented often, different locatrion then where it is today, it was on Princess Isabella Blvd back then and a pretty big space. They had shows music and plenty of girls hanging around.
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Yeah, they had a European style cabaret show with samba dancers and I don't know what all. After midnight, they had a live sex show and I think a second one at 2:00. And there were definitely a lot of free lancers around. As to the location(s) I don't remember and I have not gone back since. I more preferred the beach cafes/bars scene.
Do they still do the live sex show? I have not heard about that in a long time.
Iluvthatwoman
01-03-10, 20:36
This might be some of the best insight I have read on this website in years. Just got back from Rio and I was dissappointed by how prices had gotten out of control. I am afraid that World Cup is going to be out of control. I bought an apartment in Rio a month before they annouced the World Cup. THen I was really excited about the Olympics coming to Brazil. BUT if the Brasilans do not learn soon they will ruin the too largest events in the WORLD!
That being said, the talent in Copa this year was great!
Rio merchants, restaurants and taxi drivers keep on gouging and soon you will have no tourists here. On the plane to Rio December 30, based upon the line at immigration about 90% of the passengers were Brazilian. Went to Siqueira Grill tonight and it was about 50% full. Why? Prices up 25% and R$13 Caipirinhas could have had something to do with it. Taxis on New Year’s Eve were asking R$50 to go anywhere. People were just walking away and taking the bus.
One of the reasons I am doing business in Brazil is because Brazilians suck at marketing, management and economics. Interestingly enough there is technology infrastructure in place (which they have no clue how to use).
Keep it up Brazilians and the World Cup and Olympics will be minor blips on an investment for which you will never get a return.
Beach Star
01-03-10, 22:54
That's some good insight. In my impression, Brazil's economy is mostly speculation. Embratur, the official tourist agency for the government, is barely 2 years old. So they do not have the best marketing and planning professionals. There focus is not Rio de Janeiro, because too many poor cariocas from impoverish regions have over-run the tourist areas. My contacts in Embratur say they are promoting places like more European oriented Florianopolis, Santa Catarina...yuck! Of course the folks in Embratur are European descendant Brazilians, rather than the morenas and others.
Embratur is not `barely two years old`
Officilly tourism is 20 pct up this year on last year.
I have no idea what racists you have been talking to who claim they want to develop white tourism in the south of brazil. Anyway I am sure it is nonsense especially with the upcoming world cup, mostly in what you call morena cities, and the olympics which will be in Rio.
Jamaicanceo
01-03-10, 23:17
Embratur is not `barely two years old`
Officilly tourism is 20 pct up this year on last year.
I have no idea what racists you have been talking to who claim they want to develop white tourism in the south of brazil. Anyway I am sure it is nonsense especially with the upcoming world cup, mostly in what you call morena cities, and the olympics which will be in Rio.
According to their information it is around that old. I attend their events. We were told they are not interested in assistance with the events like World Cup, Olympics and carnival, because they will generate their own crowd. But they are focusing on developing Southeast Brazil, because the the area because it would be more attractive due to it's European culture and lack of Rio's urban. And the embratur people who gave the seminar were white and blonde. I don't know if I would apply racism, but classism definitely. Like they always want to tell me to promote Bahia. I have no interest in Bahia, only Rio. Now if Bahia had a branch of 4x4, Monte Carlo, Luomo, etc., then I wouldn't mind Bahia or Salvador!
But maybe some racism for the constant referral to me of Bahia. I don't want to go to where it's not diverse like Rio.
Beach Star
01-04-10, 02:01
According to their information it is around that old. I attend their events. We were told they are not interested in assistance with the events like World Cup, Olympics and carnival, because they will generate their own crowd. But they are focusing on developing Southeast Brazil, because the the area because it would be more attractive due to it's European culture and lack of Rio's urban. And the embratur people who gave the seminar were white and blonde. I don't know if I would apply racism, but classism definitely. Like they always want to tell me to promote Bahia. I have no interest in Bahia, only Rio. Now if Bahia had a branch of 4x4, Monte Carlo, Luomo, etc., then I wouldn't mind Bahia or Salvador!
But maybe some racism for the constant referral to me of Bahia. I don't want to go to where it's not diverse like Rio.
I have no idea who you are taking about, where and why. Reckon you should check out exactly who you are talking to and the officilal positions. Embratur are a branch of the ministry of toursm and there are no officila politics about where tourists should be directed to go. Embratur has been in its current guise since 2002 but it was a successur of the same type of rganization which had been established for years.
I would like to point out that I'm a complete idiot. My shorts turned up. I hung them above one of those bamboo style roll up blinds and somehow they fell into the rolled up bit and stayed hidden. It all seems a bit surreal to me. I even wonder if there's a supernatural element to it. It just doesn't make sense. Either way, my full apologies to Camilla. I'm going to buy her a big drink tomorrow and hope she forgives me for my online accusation.
Hi Guys,
Been here for two weeks and haven't had a problem, due to diligence and following advice from some of the mongers on this forum.
However...
Last night I went with a GDP called Camilla whom I met in Balcony. She is a hard body with fake boobs, big firm booty and an ultra flat stomach. She has what I imagine to be a little plastic surgery on her face as her nose is very sculpted and she also has slight pockmarking on her cheeks from past acne. Straight black hair that is naturally curly (so she told me).
She wanted R300 but I got her down to R200 for two hours. More than I would normally pay but her body was incredibly tight.
The session was very sterile. She wasn't really into it, wouldn't kiss or do uncovered blow job, wanted the money up front and spent ages in the bathroom. I felt a little bit sad that she didn't enjoy it as I've had some really fun GDPs in the past who seem to enjoy their work immensely.
I put it down to experience. BUT this morning I woke up and went to put on my beach shorts to find they've disappeared. I've searched all over my miniscule apartment but to no avail. Granted it was a full moon last night so I may have eaten them or flung them out the window in a fit of lunacy but I have my suspicions she may have taken them. (They are rather nice!) All my valuables were locked away so nothing else is gone.
I wonder if anyone else has experienced Camilla and did anything go missing? I don't want to think bad of her but after searching and searching my flat can only assume she left with them in her bag. I hope I'm wrong.
Paloma! Her name was Paloma.
This is my second year in Rio. Such a blast I had last year I thought I'd return. A year on the lure of the girls has dulled a little. I suppose I'm a year older and all new toys lose their novelty, but there's still lots of hotties out there and the urge to indulge takes me every couple of days or so.
I had a great first fuck with a firm, big-but-real-titted girl I met outside Help in the first week which got me off to a good start. She was genuinely pleasant and helped ease me into my holiday.
Last year on my last night I met a girl in Monte Carlo called Fernanda or Nanda for short. I put a post on here about how hot she was. I even emailed her a couple of times but didn't get a reply to the second one and realised it was fanciful at best. I'm under no illusion!
I kind of hoped to see her again, in a woefully pitiful way, just for old times' sake but she wasn't working last Sunday night when I revisited old territory. A year in the wilderness created a stomach full of butterflies on entering the den of lust. The smell of the shower facilities and the idea of almost being on show for the girls to focus their attentions on making me giddy for a moment. I put on my robe and flip flops (the equivalent of a cardigan and slippers, but for a sex fiend!) and stepped into the fray.
As usual the ugly ones made a beeline for me hoping I was a rookie they could turn with a soft caress of his inner thigh, but I remembered the mongering advice and last year's experience and motioned as politely as I could that I was just looking at the moment, muito obrigado.
A couple of big arsed Mulattas took my attention by their sheer physicality. Oh, to climb on board and enjoy the firmly cushioned ride; but I bided my time getting my money's worth of eye candy, until this slim, Euro looking blonde chick, who reminded me of Alicia Silverstone, caught me eye from the bar. She had very small tits, covered by a little bikini and was wearing a thong that showed an arse belonging to a different racial group. The top half was all European but the bottom was all Brazilian! The clincher, beside the lilting smile and gentle ways was the high-heeled shoes with wrap-around-the-calf laces. That did it for me. Just one more question stood in my way: 'Voce faz todo? '
'Sim! ' she laughed.
Off we went for 40 mins of sheer pleasure. What a way to spend a Sunday. I only wish I could remember her name. I'll be back before I go and will let you know in case you wish to book her yourselves.
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Jamaicanceo
01-04-10, 06:06
I have no idea who you are taking about, where and why. Reckon you should check out exactly who you are talking to and the officilal positions. Embratur are a branch of the ministry of toursm and there are no officila politics about where tourists should be directed to go. Embratur has been in its current guise since 2002 but it was a successur of the same type of rganization which had been established for years.
Ok. Thanks for your information.
I received this today from a girl I've banged since March 2009. This girl is 18 and beautiful. She could R300-R900 a day easily if she's lazy. When I met her in front of Help at TA in March 2009, she was asking for R400. 00 for 2 hours. I got her for R200 for 2 orgasmos. May 2009 I ignored her the whole 10 days. She calls me safado.
Oct-Nov. R200. 00 all night, and she ran errands. I got hurt during last November blackout, and she went to get me some bottled water to bath when the water was out in Rio the next day, and she changed my wound bandages. When I added R50. 00 because she was very helpful. Not bad to have a pretty 18 year girl who sucks and fucks great but speaks no english to be so helpful. American women don't have the ability to even fake it.
But here is her long distant cry for help:
"I'm full of problems my mother is very I'll, I'm doing work in the house my mother I spent money I'm working on a folded out I have to buy clothes and shoes for my family because Christmas is coming the new year to my course I stopped because I'm not having money, are you still willing to come fight it says a lot things for me imargina as my head my life is very complicated, a thousand descupa por had you treated badly most do not know what I do is only one structure my house is me, I can not show them that I'm so descupas Then a thousand is great kiss is be with God.
Know that I love you despite all that.
Natalia! "
This email is probably going to 1, 000 gringos around the world that she sucked and fucked this year. I guess one or more of the other gringos will send her what she asks for. Not me!
I will see her when I see her! Don't Fall for the Christmas GDP Holiday Email!
Every girl I have given my email in Rio has sooner or later send this kind of email, no Christmas needed. They have been robbed/problems in family/apartmen will be lost and they will have to go to street. What is common in all these emails are the words: "You are the only one I know who can help me"
Jamaicanceo
01-05-10, 04:47
Every girl I have given my email in Rio has sooner or later send this kind of email, no Christmas needed. They have been robbed/problems in family/apartmen will be lost and they will have to go to street. What is common in all these emails are the words: "You are the only one I know who can help me"
Yeah, it's almost like a Nigerian viral mail! I do not go to Rio to donate money. I've been to real poor sections of Rio de Janeiro, like Pavuna which is the last stop north on the metro. You go there and walk around, no one begs like Copacabana girls out side of there! I never been to VM, but do the girls there beg like Copa girls?
Paloma! Her name was Paloma.An ever popular name amongst the girls. Who's the real 'pigeon' here?
The Watcher
01-05-10, 07:27
I've been having breakfast in a little cafe next to Wind Sucos on the corner of Prado Junior and Nossa Senhora in Leme.
A good place - I always stop there for acai; however, I always thought that Leme starts when you cross Princesa Isabella. Am I wrong?
Mr Enternational
01-05-10, 19:34
You go there and walk around, no one begs like Copacabana girls out side of there! I never been to VM, but do the girls there beg like Copa girls?
Nope. At VM they only request the R$26 that they are entitled to.
Based on everything I've read tonight, Tonight was Help's Last night.
Rio Governor Cabral has ordered the building be vacated by Sat, Feb 9, 2010.
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1435811-5606,00.html
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010/01/05/help-tera-que-estar-vazia-no-sabado-915472439.asp
RC Auctions website has announced that the auction of Help's assets will begin on Wednesday, Feb 6, at 14h. According to the site, all the assets of the establishment will be auctioned off. Interested parties may register on the site or go to Help to participating in the auction.
They even made a video:
http://www.rcleiloes.com.br/php/blog.php?post=96
Latam Lover
01-06-10, 07:13
Based on everything I've read tonight, Tonight was Help's Last night.
Rio Governor Cabral has ordered the building be vacated by Sat, Feb 9, 2010.
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Rio/0,,MUL1435811-5606,00.html
http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2010/01/05/help-tera-que-estar-vazia-no-sabado-915472439.asp
RC Auctions website has announced that the auction of Help's assets will begin on Wednesday, Feb 6, at 14h. According to the site, all the assets of the establishment will be auctioned off. Interested parties may register on the site or go to Help to participating in the auction.
They even made a video:
http://www.rcleiloes.com.br/php/blog.php?post=96Any word on a replacement site?
Nope. At VM they only request the R$26 that they are entitled to.
I have very occasionally been asked for a tip. But I think it's a disgusting practice and make my view clear. If I like a girl a lot I'll share a beer. If I like her a lot on more than one occasion I'll give her a copy of the photo.
Mr Enternational
01-06-10, 15:57
Based on everything I've read tonight, Tonight was Help's Last night.
Rio Governor Cabral has ordered the building be vacated by Sat, Feb 9, 2010.
RC Auctions website has announced that the auction of Help's assets will begin on Wednesday, Feb 6, at 14h. According to the site, all the assets of the establishment will be auctioned off. Interested parties may register on the site or go to Help to participating in the auction.
What is the opening bid for a GDP?
What is the opening bid for a GDP?The Help Auction has started. View the lots here:
http://pregao.rcleiloes.com.br/pregao/leilao/174
Also rumors that Help may be open tonight.
I attended the auction this afternoon. The items sold today are to be paid for tomorrow and must be picked up tomorrow or Friday. They do intend to open HELP tonight. TA remained in operation during the auction and was still open when I left around 5:00 pm.
Post at another site stating that Help's DJ announced tonight, that Help would OPEN tomorrow night.
IF Help is vacated on Saturday, Oglobo is reporting that it's demolition would start Next Monday.
Oglobo also reporting that 90% of Help's assets were sold at auction today. Purchased items are to be picked up tomorrow. I don't see how Help can open tomorrow night, if it's assets are removed. Perhaps a bit of hubris on the part of the DJ.
Or something else is afoot.
Jamaicanceo
01-07-10, 09:04
post at another site stating that help's dj announced tonight, that help would open tomorrow night.
if help is vacated on saturday, oglobo is reporting that it's demolition would start next monday.
oglobo also reporting that 90% of help's assets were sold at auction today. purchased items are to be picked up tomorrow. i don't see how help can open tomorrow night, if it's assets are removed. perhaps a bit of hubris on the part of the dj.
or something else is afoot.
in 3 weeks i'll be in rio for 10 days, and i can't wait t see how the mongering game will change in copa after helpee closes! change is good!
Post at another site stating that Help's DJ announced tonight, that Help would OPEN tomorrow night.
IF Help is vacated on Saturday, Oglobo is reporting that it's demolition would start Next Monday.
Oglobo also reporting that 90% of Help's assets were sold at auction today. Purchased items are to be picked up tomorrow. I don't see how Help can open tomorrow night, if it's assets are removed. Perhaps a bit of hubris on the part of the DJ.
Or something else is afoot.DJ's are such serious folk, they're just not known for making jokes about the party ending.
Exec Talent
01-07-10, 14:26
Stopped by L'uomo yesterday to check out the talent and found a nice variety of girls. Some who had migrated to Monte Carlo have returned as well as some who had gone overseas. Unlike MC, there were no Gwyneth Paltrow Shallow Hal asses (seriously what is up with that) nor did it look like the Tiger Woods harem at Centaurus. Something for everyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ9QWe221sU&feature=PlayList&p=E3132834E674EA16&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ap1jlLfBxw
Mr Enternational
01-07-10, 15:44
Got this email today:
As things go here, sign was on door that Help would close on the 6th, but that
was for the sell of furniture, so it actually closed on the 5th, myself, and a
lot of other guys missed it. Girls are walking the beach already, I think this
will be worst than help, girls are all over the place now, prices have to go
down. I was at Balcony last night, crazy busy.
Exec Talent
01-07-10, 18:17
Got this email today:
As things go here, sign was on door that Help would close on the 6th, but that
was for the sell of furniture, so it actually closed on the 5th, myself, and a
lot of other guys missed it. Girls are walking the beach already, I think this
will be worst than help, girls are all over the place now, prices have to go
down. I was at Balcony last night, crazy busy.
I was there on what should have been a busy night, it wasn't it just LOOKED busy. I have never seen so many unattractive girls in one place in my life. There were a lot of gringos (not from the US) sitting around nursing one beer. Everyone knows that the girls rarely buy anything more than a juice. I went inside and there was no on inside only on the front of the outside. If I owned Balcony, I would be very concerned. Contrast that with Deck pizza for example which was filled with Brazilians ordering dinner and drinks.
Anyone who thinks that GDPs and gringos are a good business just doesn't get it. Just because there appears to be a lot of people someplace does not mean they are spending money or the right kind of money. You can only raise prices so much -- R$5 chopp and R$11 caipirinha -- because people will just have one instead of two or three. BTW, my girl's chopp was warm and my caipirinha tasted watered down.
Exec Talent
01-07-10, 18:22
Went by TA and Help today. They were bringing a huge load of ice into TA around 12:30 PM and it was open for business inside and out.
Help - R$40 before Midnight and $50 after. It looked pretty cleaned out but what do you really need for a boy meets girl place? Just enclosed space so you can charge admission, a bar and a sound system. All the rest is just for show.
Hey guys we are closer and closer, but Help is still alive and working ?!
It has seven lifes as a cat or what else ?
Any idea when exactly will be the last night that I try to be there :D
John Cricket
01-07-10, 23:11
The rumor now is that Help stays open and may continue to do so for quite some time due to a paperwork error on the part of the state's lwayers.
Last night the club was filled to the brim, the music was great and the women were many and pretty.
It is for sure staying open tonight (Thursday). Monday, supposedly, the place is going to be knocked down.
I'd be interested in hearing if anyone who bought anything at the Help auction actually picked it up today, as was part of the contract. As of 4AM this morning, news was that it would be business as usual. Seeing as how the auction sold the bar, the lights, the sound system and the refirgerators, I'd say that if they open, they are giving the big birdie to their auction contract, which is a good indication that they don't feel they'll close anytime soon.
So waiting next week to know something more....
However for one fact for sure I am happy it will be closed, for all the bastards taxi cars that tried to overcharge every single turist with no using taximeter at all. I guess now they will have to work the way the other taxisalways did ....
It is over now:
http://rjtv.globo.com/Jornalismo/RJTV/0,,MUL1437863-9101,00.html
Here is the video of the auction:
http://rjtv.globo.com/Jornalismo/RJTV/0,,MUL1437863-9101,00.html
John Cricket
01-08-10, 17:52
Nope. Help's coming down today.
Turns out ther rumor on Wednesday night was just to try to pack people in for one more night's profit.
The marquee is now down, the tents have been removed from the terraço, people are showing up to take away their auction purchases.
That's a wrap, people!
Goodbye, Help.
Rock Harders
01-08-10, 18:17
Mongers-
I went to Help last night and it was officially the last night that it will ever be open. The DJ made several announcements that it was the last night and I asked about a dozen different employees and they all confirmed it, that last night was the last hurrah. And what a last hurrah it was; Help was packed with probably 2:1 female/male ratio with a higher quality of talent than I have seen in there in a long, long time. There were a few tables of older, very well dressed people who were not there for the mongering game, perhaps they heard it was the last night and went for the farewell party. I also noticed that Help raised their prices for entrance and drinks in an effort to grab as much cash as possible before it's all over. The customers and the girls were partying like it was the last night and when I left at 4:30 the place was still jam packed and looked like it was going to stay that way until they kicked everybody out. A truly proper farewell party for what has to be one of the world's great houses of iniquity.
I pulled a hot little garota who is a former Centaurus employee. Thin, very beautiful about 22 years old, probably the best in Help last night depending upon your taste. Back at the room, she gave a kick ass stay all night full bareback performance.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
Posts at another board report the Terraca Atlantica tent and plants in front of Help have been removed. It looks like an empty lot. Help's front facade is also removed.
Hey guys we are closer and closer, but Help is still alive and working ?!
It has seven lifes as a cat or what else ?
Any idea when exactly will be the last night that I try to be there :D7 Lives?! They say the same thing in Brazil about cats. They have 9 lives, here in the US of A, must be the better living conditions. :) LOL
Looks like last night was Help's last, Lukasek. When you arrive, the building will be torn down. :(
7 Lives?! They say the same thing in Brazil about cats. They have 9 lives, here in the US of A, must be the better living conditions. :) LOL
Looks like last night was Help's last, Lukasek. When you arrive, the building will be torn down. :(
Probably it is 9 lives even in Europe and I forgot it ;)
A bit sad to listen this, but however what it is done, it is done, so now the next question will be....well two questions please:
A ) Where will go today, tomorrow and in the first week all the GdP that used to work at Help ? The staff too, they already found a place ? Where will be the next pick up bar-disco in Rio ? Any chance that in disco like Baronette or club 00 we will find some hookers so far as they have no more help to go ?
B ) Where you all mongers right now in holiday in Rio will spend the night ? All at Balcony Bar ? I do not think so, so the options are where ? Even considering normal disco with no hookers at all, just to not stay outside, but inside one place where to drink a beer with friends and watch nice girls.
Thanks in advance
Probably it is 9 lives even in Europe and I forgot it ;)
A bit sad to listen this, but however what it is done, it is done, so now the next question will be....well two questions please:
A ) Where will go today, tomorrow and in the first week all the GdP that used to work at Help ? The staff too, they already found a place ? Where will be the next pick up bar-disco in Rio ? Any chance that in disco like Baronette or club 00 we will find some hookers so far as they have no more help to go ?
B ) Where you all mongers right now in holiday in Rio will spend the night ? All at Balcony Bar ? I do not think so, so the options are where ? Even considering normal disco with no hookers at all, just to not stay outside, but inside one place where to drink a beer with friends and watch nice girls.
Thanks in advance
Nobody is going to miss Help more than me, I think in the short term everybody will be all over the place looking to settle in on one particular place, maybe they'll find some other club to take over eventually.
I do keep hearing the same rumor over and over from different sources and it has been posted here a couple of times and that is that the club in the basement of the old Meridien hotel is currently being remodeled for a late March opening, lets hope this is true.
What I also heard is that management is currently trying to get a permit now to have some type of outside venue also like TA is today to Help. Apparently this combination of outside/inside makes a lot of money for them.
RagingBeast
01-08-10, 22:46
It is true guys the place is closed I went by today the Terraco outdoor covered area is gone and there are workers tearing apart the inside of both buildings.
I have mixed emotion like most of you I think back to what it used to be with fond memories even though I have not been a fan of it for a few years now.
Last night Balcony Bar was packed though with some good talent.
It is very weird almost erie walking by help/Terraco.
HELP R. I. P.
Papae Noel
01-09-10, 05:21
Well, speaking of Help, I was on the Latineuro website, and saw a good looking garota, and the foto of her was taken somewhere that looks kind of familiar?
In the short bio it says she has been to Europe. Interesting.
Devilspinkick
01-09-10, 11:51
I head back to Rio in a couple of weeks and I can't wait to soak in the Brazilian sun (must remember the sun-screen), ride the metro line all the way to Ipanema, and walk past the now defunct facade of HELP. What I great way to kick off a new decade! The old dog is dead and buried and I spy greener pastures on the horizon.
It will interesting to see how the scene changes over the next few months/years.
- DSK
Pity I missed Help's last night.
Last night Balcony was very busy.
Member #4378
01-09-10, 15:35
Mongers-
I went to Help last night and it was officially the last night that it will ever be open. The DJ made several announcements that it was the last night and I asked about a dozen different employees and they all confirmed it, that last night was the last hurrah. And what a last hurrah it was; Help was packed with probably 2:1 female/male ratio with a higher quality of talent than I have seen in there in a long, long time. There were a few tables of older, very well dressed people who were not there for the mongering game, perhaps they heard it was the last night and went for the farewell party. I also noticed that Help raised their prices for entrance and drinks in an effort to grab as much cash as possible before it's all over. The customers and the girls were partying like it was the last night and when I left at 4:30 the place was still jam packed and looked like it was going to stay that way until they kicked everybody out. A truly proper farewell party for what has to be one of the world's great houses of iniquity.
I pulled a hot little garota who is a former Centaurus employee. Thin, very beautiful about 22 years old, probably the best in Help last night depending upon your taste. Back at the room, she gave a kick ass stay all night full bareback performance.
Suerte,
Rock Harders
It is sad! I spent nice days over the last many years visiting and staying near HELP. Anyone knows whether FLs will still be there outside HELP. Any alternatives to HELP in Rio? It will be interesting to see how this will affect the local economy of that area including apartment prices and etc.
John Cricket
01-09-10, 16:35
If they get Meridian going, my bet is that they won't get a dispensation from the city to have an outside venue like Terraço Atlântico.
I also bet that the city will stick every barrier it can in their way, but we'll see.
Jamaicanceo
01-09-10, 18:28
It is sad! I spent nice days over the last many years visiting and staying near HELP. Anyone knows whether FLs will still be there outside HELP. Any alternatives to HELP in Rio? It will be interesting to see how this will affect the local economy of that area including apartment prices and etc.
The prices for apartments will be affected. The Help girls put a lot of money in those apartments. Many girls subleased them, with up to 10 girls to studios o one bedrooms. I really feel sorry for the girls who were just trying to help their families out of poverty. I think when LuLa leaves office there will be a strong move to send the poor girls back to the favelas and poorer parts of Rio. Those are Rio's gems of beauty. They wanted to live a life outside of poverty. If I had the means I would try and help Rio's poor outside of my mongering budget. No joking!
Alex Deuce
01-09-10, 18:42
The prices for apartments will be affected. The Help girls put a lot of money in those apartments. Many girls subleased them, with up to 10 girls to studios o one bedrooms. I really feel sorry for the girls who were just trying to help their families out of poverty. I think when LuLa leaves office there will be a strong move to send the poor girls back to the favelas and poorer parts of Rio. Those are Rio's gems of beauty. They wanted to live a life outside of poverty. If I had the means I would try and help Rio's poor outside of my mongering budget. No joking!This is worse than gentrification!
RagingBeast
01-10-10, 00:49
Just wanted to add a picture from today outside HELP.
The scene is definately different here now in the immediate area as Mia Pataca is pretty slow but Balcony is very busy now.
Went to Lapa last night that was a f-cking blast what a fun place Friday and Saturday nights music thousands of people partying in the streets untill 6:00 or so in the morning.
To get to Lapa from the Copacabana area take the 433 or 434 bus it takes about 30 minutes with a guy driving a bus but thinks he is in a Indy car.
Tomorow I think I will be in the mood for Loumos.
Will add more later.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJYAlready posted, and discussed more than enough.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY
This clip is from the 2005 German film "Downfall" ("Der Untergang"). Bruno Ganz plays Adolf Hitler. Just giving credit where it's due.
If they get Meridian going, my bet is that they won't get a dispensation from the city to have an outside venue like Terraço Atlântico.
I also bet that the city will stick every barrier it can in their way, but we'll see.From what I heard they already bought the hotel thru another corporation and they are trying to keep it quiet in order to avoid protests. The outside venue might be a stretch as you say, I can't even think where they could put it. If they do pull it off, people can gather outside in front of Mab's across the street as they do today in TA and then walk across the street and enter the club.
My feeling is that anybody can open a club and they can't stop the GDP's from entering and they can't stop Mongers from entering. If this is all true and they have a Help in the basement of the hotel and they open the hotel, what a hotel this would be.
John Cricket
01-10-10, 18:16
From what I heard they already bought the hotel thru another corporation and they are trying to keep it quiet in order to avoid protests. The outside venue might be a stretch as you say, I can't even think where they could put it. If they do pull it off, people can gather outside in front of Mab's across the street as they do today in TA and then walk across the street and enter the club.
My feeling is that anybody can open a club and they can't stop the GDP's from entering and they can't stop Mongers from entering. If this is all true and they have a Help in the basement of the hotel and they open the hotel, what a hotel this would be.The problem is that the city can harass your ass until you have to close. This is just like in the States.
I mean, imagine having to deal with fire inspectors every single week, being fined repeatedly for bullshit code violations, having people come into your club and start fights so that the cops who paid them off can come in and shut everything down.
This is what they're going to have to deal with if they don't get at least tacit approval from the city and state.
So sure, you can open a club alright, but can you keep it open if mongers and GdPs fill it and the city decides to take issue?
The Meridian rumor is all over Copacaban, by the way, and I'm sure Their Majesties the Governor and the Mayor are aware of it by now. The question is, are they going to harass the Meridian's new owners?
RagingBeast
01-11-10, 00:12
I used to have a couple local favorite apartments around for fun in the Copacabana area.
Does anyone know if there is still great apartment fun around like 583 apt203 apt204 and clube 53 around siqueira campos?
Any inf is apprieciated.
The problem is that the city can harass your ass until you have to close. This is just like in the States.
I mean, imagine having to deal with fire inspectors every single week, being fined repeatedly for bullshit code violations, having people come into your club and start fights so that the cops who paid them off can come in and shut everything down.
This is what they're going to have to deal with if they don't get at least tacit approval from the city and state.
So sure, you can open a club alright, but can you keep it open if mongers and GdPs fill it and the city decides to take issue?
The Meridian rumor is all over Copacaban, by the way, and I'm sure Their Majesties the Governor and the Mayor are aware of it by now. The question is, are they going to harass the Meridian's new owners?Yeah sure anything can happen, thanks for the cold dose of reality but I can dream if I want.
KellySlater
01-11-10, 03:26
I realize that if done right if someone builds a place to replace help it will be quite profitable.
But, why from a business perspective, would you do it at a hotel. Forget about regular hotel business. Unless all of your guests are mongers. And if that were true there is no way the city will let that happen. Its too big a property and investment to use for just a nightclub. They can make more money selling the property or renovating and building condos or and making a legit hotel.
I just don't see it. But we will see.
It is true guys the place is closed I went by today the Terraco outdoor covered area is gone and there are workers tearing apart the inside of both buildings.
I have mixed emotion like most of you I think back to what it used to be with fond memories even though I have not been a fan of it for a few years now.
Last night Balcony Bar was packed though with some good talent.
It is very weird almost erie walking by help/Terraco.
HELP R. I. P.
Personally all that concerns me about the closure of Help is the knock on effect it will have on the really good places in Rio. I never really liked the place.
Exec Talent
01-11-10, 23:14
The problem is that the city can harass your ass until you have to close. This is just like in the States.
I mean, imagine having to deal with fire inspectors every single week, being fined repeatedly for bullshit code violations, having people come into your club and start fights so that the cops who paid them off can come in and shut everything down.
This is what they're going to have to deal with if they don't get at least tacit approval from the city and state.
So sure, you can open a club alright, but can you keep it open if mongers and GdPs fill it and the city decides to take issue?
The Meridian rumor is all over Copacaban, by the way, and I'm sure Their Majesties the Governor and the Mayor are aware of it by now. The question is, are they going to harass the Meridian's new owners?
Macunaima by any other name still smells like shit. Do you not have the decency to take a hint when you are not wanted? You were given your own thread as Macunaima then as Quincas. What does it take to get rid of you?
JayHighFive
01-12-10, 00:23
I realize that if done right if someone builds a place to replace help it will be quite profitable.
But, why from a business perspective, would you do it at a hotel. Forget about regular hotel business. Unless all of your guests are mongers. And if that were true there is no way the city will let that happen. Its too big a property and investment to use for just a nightclub. They can make more money selling the property or renovating and building condos or and making a legit hotel.
I just don't see it. But we will see.
Well you never know. I've been to Thailand and Dubai and in both places the biggest mongering niteclubs are in the hotels. Seem crazy but it works.
Just got back in last night and wondering if I can add anything useful . . . spent fifteen minutes in customs declaring excess cash but no probs. Haggled the airport cambio up from 2.5 GBP to 2.6 Reis to GBP. Today was better - haggled Marilene at NS Copa 80 (near Isabel) up from 2.85 to 2.9. I do not subscribe to the view that one cambio or the other gives best rates - I have had best rates at different times from the airport, Marilene, the cambios around Copa Palace, and the cambio in the shopping mall by Carioca station. I compare two or three that are nearby - cannot be bothered spending all day scoping them. Taxi from airport (departures floor, midnight Sunday) was still 50R, he asked 55 but 50 is an ok price. In case it is of interest to anyone who likes to travel light (I always arrive here with just a tiny amount of stuff that will easiloy fit in cabin baggage), my routine is to buy the necessaries when I arrive from the farmacia and all night supermarket, then go into Saara market next day for stuff that is a fraction of trhe cost in Copa. eg today, havaianas 8R, a TIM chip/sim 15R (and none of that passport hassle that TIM shops give you), a t-shirt <8R, an extension cable 5R, a large bottle of shampoo for garotas 2.5R, and so on. I arrive with two sets of technical clothing (Rohan for Brits - Aussies and US-ers google). One is an all-weather waterproof: lightweight jacket, trousers, trainers (Brasilians cannot make trainers for toffee) that are lightweight, waterproof, breathable and that you can remove the insoles to store large wads of dosh. Then an ultra-light heatproof set inc anti-mozzie shirt. These clothes are higfh-wick, fast-wash, fast-dry, with multiple zips, hidden pockets, loops for attaching phones and keys and stuff. I make two concessions to local custom. Brasillian shorts (cos anything else looks awful). And a Brasilian microceda shirt - usually football but this time of year a Beija-Flor tech-rehearsal shirt from last year carries more kudos. Wear them straight off the plane. Temperature today is 39 degrees. Nice contrasting pic of snowball fights in Berlin on front page of todays O Globo. Quick bus tip going into town (most buses stop two blocks from Uruguiana) - the 382 drops you by the book stands at the corner by Carioca59 knockshop - as handy as the Metro. Ciao.
RagingBeast
01-12-10, 03:09
Just to answer my own question yes apartment fun in Copa at 583 Av. N. S Copacabana apt. 203 204 are still there and kickin I passed as my favorite morena was not at work.
Went to L'uomo it was fun as usual but looks smaller now than 08 as they now have a relax room.
Went with a hot 19YO name Yasmin very small very hot a great time all the way around total R$271 for 40 minutes in a cabine.
Going to Balcony will update tomorow.
Oglobo's been reporting about Help verses Rio State government, the last 6+ months. Help was supposed to be demolished yesterday, (Monday.) Where's the coverage and video on that? Nothing reported in the competing press either. I need closure. LOL
Rock Harders
01-12-10, 08:57
Mongers, JavaMan, et al-
I just left Rio on Sunday and as I stated in an earlier post, Help's last night open was Thursday January 8th. I drove by on numerous occasions on Friday and Saturday and dismantling of the site had already begun. The tent at TA along with all the tables, chairs, etc were long gone and there were work crews more or less gutting the inside of the building. The end has finally come but it has been a long time coming so its not really a big story locally at this point.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
John Cricket
01-12-10, 12:34
Help is still standing as of today (Tuesday). No bulldozers yet. No signs of immenent demolition, either. There seem to be crews going over the building and the state has a bunch of rent-a-cops sitting in the doorway.
If you are traveling by bus for the first time to VM you might wonder if you are getting off at the right stop (which is immediately after the flyover, Praca da Bandeira). Went by last night and they have not only renewed and jazzed up one of the bridges, but a section just before Bandeira is now all lit up in funky colours. VM was pretty quiet last night but not unexpectedly so for a Monday and after midnight. Took two girls. At the first one, the mamasan (who I know) pointed huffily to a notice stating the price as 30R (the increase is for the room, not the chica). To be fair, she had started trying to charge that last year when she ran the adjacent casa. Only last year she did have some really outstanding girls which balanced it up a bit. Recognised a cr*p sh*g from last year (very good looking blonde with brain sadly removed) and opted for the other vaguely doable looking one. Awful service. Two casas along and took a slightly overweight woman but the service was excellent. One of the girls I know from before backed me up when the mamasan started prevaricating about my change from 30R, so still only paid 26R. Both girls had the cheek to ask for tips (refused). Given the number of casas and girls at VM I do not think this is in any way necesssarily indicative.
Checked out Nog and Bar Prado but a bit dead apart from familiar faces. Balcony heaving. I wouldn´t say the girls were better than VM but better presented of course, more of them, and more 6 and 7´s plus. Starting prices varied but no-one seemed inclined to go below 200, even when a girl followed me to Nog. Went next door to Dolce Vita a couple of times. Drink prices roughly double of Balcony, but no pressure to buy and no entrance fee. Girls quite happy to be seen walking into the place with the street cred of being with a guy. Went for a dance briefly with someone I knew. Atmosphere at Balcony and Dolce Vita spoilt only by high prices and drunken Westerners (I always get drunken gringos spilling drinks over me in these places - what´s wrong with coca-cola if you cannot hold the alcohol??) Later, knocked back a very forward hustle to dance with an attractive chick. I had only brought 150 mongering money but she danced with me for hours and not once asked for a drink so I thought I´d cut her some leeway. Several pops, stayed over, pics. Ex-Erotika and her service was first class. DFK, GFE, BBBJ, enthusiastic, energetic and very tight. Said many of the boites were struggling for lack of customers.
Macunaima by any other name still smells like shit. Do you not have the decency to take a hint when you are not wanted? You were given your own thread as Macunaima then as Quincas. What does it take to get rid of you? LOL LOL LOL
I think you right Exec Talent he never gives up does he LOL
Kid Cisco
Mr Enternational
01-13-10, 09:12
I was supposed to be in Rio right now but I got sidetracked here in Lima. Got this email today though from a buddy on the ground in Copa....
Help girls are setting outside Balcony with Champagne, and buckets of beer, have watched this, but by 1:AM they leave together, no one is taking them, the midget left alone also, all that I have talked too are asking 150 all night, so many though, its finally a buyer's market, I don't know what will be happening next week with prices, I have heard, some girls are moving back home already.
Jamaicanceo
01-13-10, 12:01
I was supposed to be in Rio right now but I got sidetracked here in Lima. Got this email today though from a buddy on the ground in Copa....
Help girls are setting outside Balcony with Champagne, and buckets of beer, have watched this, but by 1:AM they leave together, no one is taking them, the midget left alone also, all that I have talked too are asking 150 all night, so many though, its finally a buyer's market, I don't know what will be happening next week with prices, I have heard, some girls are moving back home already.
Yes!!!!!!! A buyers market. I'll be there in 2 weeks! And I'm gonna fuck'em all! R150 all night and shoes shined while getting BBBJ!
Yes! A buyers market. I'll be there in 2 weeks! And I'm gonna fuck'em all! R150 all night and shoes shined while getting BBBJ!They might paint your room too.
Loulakis Jim
01-13-10, 17:03
Do we have any news from Centaurus or Monte Carlo, prices and girls?
.....back home :)
For the better portuguese speakers... I got from solarium that on 26 january it is :
"As mais quentes gatas do Rio, vao fazer, voche suar "
What does it means ?
" the hottest cat-girl of Rio, i will do, you... ?? "
Obrigado....
Cannot wait to this evening to see how looks like Balcony crowded with help girls at discount price :)
And btw if somebody wants to meet, PM me.
Cheers
P.S. Btw too fucking hot here, I left europe yesterday with snow and here it seems hot as hell....
I'm due to come into Rio Saturday. I have an apartment reserved till wensday. I was wondering if you guys know any decent priced (girl friendly) hotel or apartment located near copa. I was thinking that I will probably end up staying for a few more days. If I can't extend my apartment stay, I want a back up plan.
Thanks in advance
A club with surely some nice talents, so I checked right now gpguia, most of brazileros spent this:
Fazendo as contas:
R$ 30,00 de entrada (+ dois drinks)
R$ 30,00 pra sair com a perva (+ dois drinks)
R$ 200,00 do programa
R$ 50,00 do motel.
Despite motel for us monger who stay in apt, 260 reais it seems to me quite reasonable price....( OWO,DFK,DATY,Anal) I guess if it will be the same for a gringo as us.....need to check it :D
P.S.especially most of escorts charge at least 250reais and you cannot see them live and talk to them as in Cicciolina.
P.P.S. my feeling is from Help many will move to work in Prado Junior clubs....I will report ;)
I was wondering if you guys know any decent priced (girl friendly) hotel or apartment located near copa....
That's for you, not only me I stayed there many times,but also it is often reported in gpguia as hotel where to bang girl, for me very good, also it has breakfast buffet until noon, so you can have big breakfast-lunch there, not luxus, but good enough for me.
www.praialidohotel.com.br
Was going to give Renata a quickie but talent in BA85 was quite good and I ended up shafting someone else. A few in the area that now seemed defunct (for listcheckers): BA93 (was oriente vip sala 513) - no joy. Vargas 633 (ap1618) no reply. Conceicao 116a now has a minimum drinks charge of 6R (looked ok but nothing I fancied). Acre 120 bored and laidback as usual - ok girls but they always look so unenthusiastic. They come out of the dimly lit room - about 6 of them - and stand there for me like it´s an imposition. Lazer 3 round the corner in Leandro Martrins is as awful as always. Two girls dragged me in and got huffy when I turned them down. The place is a sh*thole and they try ever more desperate measures instead of just making it a bit nicer. Almost next door at Lazer 5 is a place I usually quite like though - meaty handshakes from the entrance guy, nice place for a beer, and a good jukebox. Girls tend not to wear make-up, which was ok when they were fit, but today´s bunch looked unappealing. Afrodite was shut when I passed (2pm), with a p*ssed off gata on the phone outside trying to get in. (all these places are in the approx 1R per minute band - if you haven´t printed the map off the forum and don´t want to buy a Ruas (the RJ A-Z), get the free Riotur tourist map which now has a decent Centro road plan.)
Nice new place is Uruguiana 210 almost opposite Afrodite (look for the balloons over the doroway just now). This is just the far side of Pres.Vargas from Uruguiana station. Unsettlingly clean for the area. Charming young girl took me by the hand and gave me a tour. I chose the aircon suite (slightly pricier - 45R for half hour) and had quite a nice time. Large room decorated with beanbags, guitar cutouts on the wall and imaginative decor. Very unrushed. Heading down to Carioca59 cos I like to eat at Bar Luiz (good German specialties in immaculately run place). The internet shop on the way in Saara (on Conceicao just off Luis de Camoes) has a fast connection (Chinese run). Oh yes - the knock-off copy of the new Samba-enredos (songs) is in Uruguiana market already for 10R if you can´t wait. ;)
.....back home :)
For the better portuguese speakers... I got from solarium that on 26 january it is :
"As mais quentes gatas do Rio, vao fazer, voche suar"The hottest chicks in Rio, they gonna make you sweat.
For our slang challenged European friends:
Gatas is Brazilian slang for chicks. Chick is American slang for a young hot gal. Gal is another term for a woman. :) LOL
That's for you, not only me I stayed there many times,but also it is often reported in gpguia as hotel where to bang girl, for me very good, also it has breakfast buffet until noon, so you can have big breakfast-lunch there, not luxus, but good enough for me.
www.praialidohotel.com.brThanks a bunch
The hottest chicks in Rio, they gonna make you sweat.
For our slang challenged European friends:
Gatas is Brazilian slang for chicks. Chick is American slang for a young hot gal. Gal is another term for a woman. :) LOL
I so wish we could just call spades spades and wh0res wh0res . . .
Just in case anyone´s struggling to find it, Cicciolina is near Prado Junior but not in it. It´s on the corner of Princesa Isabel (the main street that separates Copa and Leme) and Viv.Mineiros de Castro. As the boites go, I agree it´s probably one of the better ones. I used to see a girl who worked there regularly (but booked her outside which was cheaper). Prado Junior is the next street along, parallel to Isabel.
A club with surely some nice talents, so I checked right now gpguia, most of brazileros spent this:
Fazendo as contas:
R$ 30,00 de entrada (+ dois drinks)
R$ 30,00 pra sair com a perva (+ dois drinks)
R$ 200,00 do programa
R$ 50,00 do motel.
Despite motel for us monger who stay in apt, 260 reais it seems to me quite reasonable price....( OWO,DFK,DATY,Anal) I guess if it will be the same for a gringo as us.....need to check it :D
Just in case anyone´s struggling to find it, Cicciolina is near Prado Junior but not in it. I used to see a girl who worked there regularly (but booked her outside which was cheaper). .
What time can the girls leave Cicciolina? How about Franks? I am not to keen on paying the exit fee for the girls, especialy, if she is got going to spend the entire night!!
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