Bangkok Reports

[AsiaTraveler2]

I did the gogo bar crawl through NEP and Soi Cowboy, and had a good time. I was able to see Bill Board for the first time, and I could see it has some promise. They were a little light on girls, but it was early. Las Vegas and DC-10 were disappointments. Both were small and had very few girls. I spent most of my time in the same bars, Rainbow 4 in NEP and Bacarra in Soi Cowboy. Angel Witch and the Rainbow bar on the ground floor at NEP were also decent stops. I saw a hottie in front of Lollipop, doing her best to pull in customers. The Paragon has been my place to chill between stops. I tried the 4D movie. Interesting, but more theme park than movie. It was a Universal Studios experience. The chairs move, vibrations and jolts, water spraying, wind bursts simulating a bullet flying by your head, etc. The food was quite good at the Japanese and Korean restaurants at Paragon. They were a nice change of pace from the street food and the hole in the wall Thai food joints up and down Sukhumvit and it's side Soi's. Terminal 21 sounded good in concept. The results are mixed, and the foot traffic was thin.

Had a legit massage at King & I, during the rain. Relaxing. Tulip was the usual fun place, for a quick massage and more. There were a lot of freelancers around NEP, with some decent options. The lady boy population seems to be growing. A lot of hobbyists talking to them. I wonder how many knew and were seeking them out, and how many were in for a surprise? The Beer Garden has not changed. The same hit and mostly miss options, but it still has it's niche in BKK. There are places that are hyped and others that are trashed, but I think the test of time proves which venues provide some type of value. If they stay in business, they have fans who keep them alive. Walked by Dr B. J. 's and was not impressed by what I saw in front, and kept walking. BKK has so many options, and the fun is still there.

AT2

[Franciscass]

I have to admit I do love BJ's over a ride, it's just my thing. A good ride now and again too, but BJ's with cim and the electric shock sensation at the end send me into paradise.

Bearing in mind, I've had a few dozen escorts over the years and some are different class at BJ's. I have to seriously recommend Dr BJ's Salon.

I nearly always go down the escort route that has great reviews about BJ / cim, ie Lee at Bangkok Gold (if they ever answer the bloody phone again. 8 times without answer now).

An hour ago went to.

http://bjbarbangkok.com

With a lot of scepticism to be honest, because it's very cheap and I'm a great believer in "you get what you pay for".

We had a line up of about 10 girls, no rushing, great warm welcome, a few giggles as we're discussing who to pick. I picked "Kan", who on my first glance, seemed a bit moody and my 2nd glance, but she's quite pretty and I think the moodyness isn't moody at all, it's shyness.

I've had a lot of good BJ's, but Kan has easily moved into my top 3 of all time, the other 2 being Russian and Latvian escorts in London. Really slow and steady, paying attention to the boys and in no rush to get you to finish. She only hit the gas, when I started moving her head up and down as I was close.

Kan. Out of 10 for looks? She gets 8/8. 5. Performance. A total 10.

My mate said "I had a jack hammer", but they all have different techniques I'm told. I'd take Kan, every day 24 hours a day.

Oh and for the record, Dr BJ (writes on the forum) himself was there, but you wouldn't have known it. Very down to earth, helpful and a decent fella. If you like BJ's in a non seedy environment, then this is the place.

I'll be back, maybe even tonight.Jeez Gringo you seem to be a man of the world with lots of experience not short of a few bob and yet you rate one of Doc's helpers at the saloon an 8/8. As so often reflected indeed it's all in the eye of the beholder but I would suggest a cruise around the town hitting some of the baths and oilies (see other links for suggestions) to appreciate true Thai beauty.

[Exec Talent]

I did the gogo bar crawl through NEP and Soi Cowboy, and had a good time. I was able to see Bill Board for the first time, and I could see it has some promise. They were a little light on girls, but it was early. Las Vegas and DC-10 were disappointments. Both were small and had very few girls. I spent most of my time in the same bars, Rainbow 4 in NEP and Bacarra in Soi Cowboy. Angel Witch and the Rainbow bar on the ground floor at NEP were also decent stops. I saw a hottie in front of Lollipop, doing her best to pull in customers. The Paragon has been my place to chill between stops. I tried the 4D movie. Interesting, but more theme park than movie. It was a Universal Studios experience. The chairs move, vibrations and jolts, water spraying, wind bursts simulating a bullet flying by your head, etc. The food was quite good at the Japanese and Korean restaurants at Paragon. They were a nice change of pace from the street food and the hole in the wall Thai food joints up and down Sukhumvit and it's side Soi's. Terminal 21 sounded good in concept. The results are mixed, and the foot traffic was thin.

Had a legit massage at King & I, during the rain. Relaxing. Tulip was the usual fun place, for a quick massage and more. There were a lot of freelancers around NEP, with some decent options. The lady boy population seems to be growing. A lot of hobbyists talking to them. I wonder how many knew and were seeking them out, and how many were in for a surprise? The Beer Garden has not changed. The same hit and mostly miss options, but it still has it's niche in BKK. There are places that are hyped and others that are trashed, but I think the test of time proves which venues provide some type of value. If they stay in business, they have fans who keep them alive. Walked by Dr B. J. 's and was not impressed by what I saw in front, and kept walking. BKK has so many options, and the fun is still there.

AT2I might have been one of the guys you saw talking to the Ladyboys. I find that many of them speak English well and can be a good source of information if you treat them right. You just have to be clear that you are not interested in anything beyond a brief conversation. I would find it hard to believe that a guy could take one out without knowing. None that I spoke with was trying to hide that they were ladyboys.

[Jp Slicky]

S.

Did you ever think of using the safe? Keeping only money you can afford to loose?

Its that big steel box in the room

[Crazy4Thai]

Here is where identifying a girl could help someone out. Thieves, drug addicts, etc. , who to not barfines is valuable info. Identifying a good performer is ok but, not so valuable as chemistry play a big role, you can't judge chemistry.

42 year old spinner. LOL. Hell I don't even know what a regular spinner is. Can you put them upside down and spin them like a toy top?WOW H! This could go in the Comments of Distinction! Really. You nailed it this time. Identifying the girl would be a service to the board.

From the Urban Dictionary. Spinner.

A petite woman. Denoted as a joke, whereby the petite woman is so thin she is able to be mounted and spun in a circle on an erect penis.

Probably can't do that on the BTS though.

[Rjsss212]

Look gogo bars are rip off places for the unsuspecting newbie or weak-minded.WTF? Your talkin out your ass though perhaps the difference is that I've been at this longer than you. My last trip to BKK this past December was for about a month and I pulled from Nana almost every night with an exceptional success rate with some actually being exceptional as well – I posted a few of the better performers earlier.

Daytime long-time action / options are 'poor' at best (I pulled every day as well) and it's 'catch-as-catch-can' as the saying goes and I have almost permanently lowered my daytime expectations in BKK. But then I only take-out long time so that may partially explain it.

But the go-gos' are still where all the better mid-priced quality options can be found. G-clubs are fine except that it's a time killer – can't walk in, grab one and leave like go-gos' and I don't need to spend an extra minute in any of them after I've found what I'm looking for.

[AsiaTraveler2]

I had a good session at Lucky Massage on Soi 26. It is marketed as a Japanese Massage club, with all inclusive pricing, but it is open to anyone I was told. There are pros and cons with the pricing, but I find it mostly a positive. At 2, 200 baht, it is not a bad deal these days. I picked Rose off of picture cards on a table. Not a big selection, but the pics looked good. Like all of the places in BKK, the pics always show the girls fair skinned. The facilities look new, although the room itself is small. It is better than a lot of other places. I am shown up the stairs by a girl in a sailor type outfit, and she asks me what I want to drink. At first, I thought she was an attendant after two straight days of Soapy's. Not the usual older woman, but a cutie and I am thinking DAMN I wish she was doing the massage. She hands me the drink, and like a Soapy, I give her a small tip. She looks startled. I realize then, she is the girl I picked. She looked nothing like the picture, but the good news is she looks better than the pic. It was a fun session.

AT2

[Aibolit]

I had a good session at Lucky Massage on Soi 26. It is marketed as a Japanese Massage club, with all inclusive pricing, but it is open to anyone I was told. There are pros and cons with the pricing, but I find it mostly a positive. At 2, 200 baht, it is not a bad deal these days. I picked Rose off of picture cards on a table. Not a big selection, but the pics looked good. Like all of the places in BKK, the pics always show the girls fair skinned. The facilities look new, although the room itself is small. It is better than a lot of other places. I am shown up the stairs by a girl in a sailor type outfit, and she asks me what I want to drink. At first, I thought she was an attendant after two straight days of Soapy's. Not the usual older woman, but a cutie and I am thinking DAMN I wish she was doing the massage. She hands me the drink, and like a Soapy, I give her a small tip. She looks startled. I realize then, she is the girl I picked. She looked nothing like the picture, but the good news is she looks better than the pic. It was a fun session.

AT2Thanks for the report, AT. Do they allow to see their lineup live? I always distrust pictures and your report substantiated, even though you were lucky this time around.

A

[Luvpuss]

WTF? Your talkin out your ass though perhaps the difference is that I've been at this longer than you. My last trip to BKK this past December was for about a month and I pulled from Nana almost every night with an exceptional success rate with some actually being exceptional as well – I posted a few of the better performers earlier.

Daytime long-time action / options are 'poor' at best (I pulled every day as well) and it's 'catch-as-catch-can' as the saying goes and I have almost permanently lowered my daytime expectations in BKK. But then I only take-out long time so that may partially explain it.

But the go-gos' are still where all the better mid-priced quality options can be found. G-clubs are fine except that it's a time killer – can't walk in, grab one and leave like go-gos' and I don't need to spend an extra minute in any of them after I've found what I'm looking for.To each their own, but I agree with Mr. Snuggles.

I never pull from a Gogo. I think they are tourist traps for the most part. For businessmen and rookie tourists. There are a few exceptions. Very few I think.

More than enough other spots / girls with better service, rates, attitudes.

But it is your time/money.

[Syzygies]

Is it my imagination or does thread search not work anymore? I mean I do thread search, then click on a found post header. It does not then go to correct part of the thread where post was made.

I seem to recall 1500 was the price for Original genuine Cialis (20 mg). Is that right or out of date? I would be happy with generic myself, if I wanted it, but a friend wants to get some absolutely original Lilly brand Cialis (not a generic copy). Where to get it in Sukumwit area (if price is exceptionally good)? I tried thread search but 2010 and 2011 posts were coming up and click redirection to original post was not working.

[Dr BJ]

Is it my imagination or does thread search not work anymore? I mean I do thread search, then click on a found post header. It does not then go to correct part of the thread where post was made.

I seem to recall 1500 was the price for Original genuine Cialis (20 mg). Is that right or out of date? I would be happy with generic myself, if I wanted it, but a friend wants to get some absolutely original Lilly brand Cialis (not a generic copy). Where to get it in Sukumwit area (if price is exceptionally good)? I tried thread search but 2010 and 2011 posts were coming up and click redirection to original post was not working.Cialis is one of the few I have yet to try. I do know the small Pharmacy opposite the entrance to Nana Plaza is renound for being one of the few places to sell absolutely genuine Viagra obviously at a much higher price. It may be worth asking if they also do genuine article Cialis. Perhaps someone who has bought Cialis from this venue could chip in to tell us about the quality.

Regards,

BJ

[AsiaTraveler2]

Thanks for the report, AT. Do they allow to see their lineup live? I always distrust pictures and your report substantiated, even though you were lucky this time around.

AI did not ask to see the lineup, so I cannot say for sure. The manager did ask if I preferred fair skin, and I told him it did not matter to me. She was lacking up top, in case you were interested, so do not pick her if boobs are your thing.

AT2

[AsiaTraveler2]

This really seemed to be a buyers market this past week. NEP at closing was like shooting fish in a barrel. $3K baht starting offers came down quickly to $2K, with just a quick shake of the head. Walked around the court yard, and got several offers from girls I saw in Rainbow 4, Angel Witch, etc. Just an hour earlier.

AT2

[HornDog 3]

Got into town at 1:00am this morning. Took a quick shower and off to NEP. Walked into Billboard for a drink and a look see. Not much to see so 1 drink and over to Rainbow4. Walked in and ordered my drink. Girls did not look very happy to be on stage. Had an eye on #45 (I do not remember name ). Bought her a drink and we talked money. Started out at 2000 st. I laughed and said 1000 st with BBBJCIM and boom boom. She came back with 1500, 3 hours my room 3 pops. BBBJCIM, boom boom, and anal. So I thought about it for maybe 2 seconds and then out the door. We got to the hotel and the fun started. She left at 5:30am. I fell a sleep. Woke up at 1:00 had lunch and went over to Avivia for a massage. I will write more later. Time for a nap.

[BionicMan]

a friend wants to get some absolutely original Lilly brand Cialis (not a generic copy). Where to get it in Sukumwit area (if price is exceptionally good)? .The absolutelly original can be found in "big" pharmacies such as Boot's, but they might ask for a prescription. Out of those channels, I do not think many can voucher for "absolute original".

[Paul Kausch]

Is it my imagination or does thread search not work anymore? I mean I do thread search, then click on a found post header. It does not then go to correct part of the thread where post was made.

I seem to recall 1500 was the price for Original genuine Cialis (20 mg). Is that right or out of date? I would be happy with generic myself, if I wanted it, but a friend wants to get some absolutely original Lilly brand Cialis (not a generic copy). Where to get it in Sukumwit area (if price is exceptionally good)? I tried thread search but 2010 and 2011 posts were coming up and click redirection to original post was not working.There's a pharmacy on Sukhumvit somewhere between Soi 8 and 14 at which you can buy Lilly's original Cialis It's ridiculously expensive. Something like US$10 for 20mg dose.

[KNowbody]

long time reader, first time poster, i'm kinda shy and private so excuse lack of casual tone if it comes across too much.

i came to thailand 3 months ago without any actual intent to indulge in the local attractions so to speak, i regarded the entire thing as something of a curiosity more than something i could actually involve myself in personally but after dipping my toe in the water i've found although the experience can be mixed, it's certainly like nothing else available in the world right now. i can only write from the perspective i have experienced, so keeping that in mind; i'm a very large thirty something guy not too repulsive (i hope but maybe that's just bullshit self serving bias).

i started off trying tulip out a couple months back just once, first p4p experience ever, the girl was somewhat mechanical but extremely raunchy in terms of being up for absolutely everything, i freaked out at various multiple points throughout the encounter, first when she pushed my legs up and started licking my ass which was a complete first for me and later on when she was jacking me off bareback into her mouth after a great sloppy deep blowjob telling me she wanted to taste my cum most of all.

needless to say after that experience i was somewhat interested to try more.

a couple weeks back i moved to sukhumvit and have since had the opportunity to indulge at a somewhat more frenetic pace; i started out just messing around at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) on soi 8, i took 8 girls over a single day and had 8 very good orgasms of various intensity. best one was definitely a girl called kae, but they were all pretty damned good except one girl who was the tallest whose name escapes me now, instead of a proper blowjob she just seemed to bounce up and down open mouthed on my cock and occasionally miss it with her mouth entirely, so not that great but fuck it.

after about the fifth time i think they started to get the idea of what i was doing and got a kick out of it joking around asking if they could be next, or next next, or next next next. i like the attitude the girls generally have here even if they're not the hottest, kae recommended i try her and a friend simultaneously and while she blew me her friend licked my ass until i came in kae's mouth, another first for me and a totally mindblowing experience.

800 baht per girl and for the better performers i was tipping 200 baht on top.

after the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) experience i wanted to see what the other bj bars in the area were like and i saw lollipop one night while walking down soi 10, i went down there and had a passable though not as good as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) experience with a girl who had good suction and a lot of spit and basically fucked her own face with my cock for about a half hour without complaint. i came back here a week or so later to try again and had a very pretty girl do a twosome with a not so hot girl that i got her to pick for me, i was too shy to ask for a repeat of my [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) special so mostly just stuck to groping and fondling one while the other blew me, passable bbbj's all around but not as good as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) at any rate.

i also tried som's haven down on soi 14 but of the three so far it was the least impressive, had a fairly attractive girl blow me but her technique wasn't really that great at all and she kept complaining about the heat and switching to a handjob fairly frequently.

i dropped by cleo's out front of star of light in patpong one afternoon around 3pm but frankly most of those girls would have to pay me to let them blow me so i'm not sure what the story was there, maybe they're spectacularly good techniquewise but they're just not attractive women, so i didn't go in to find out what it was actually like.

next up i tried dr bj's for the first time and frankly realised how much i had just been fucking around with the others, for my tastes this place is perfect, they have a lineup of "nurses" and "consultants" which are distinguished primarily by the nurses being a bit chunkier and although i only tried one nurse before sticking completely to the consultants only after the past two week, it seems their technique is not quite as good either.

it doesn't seem like they have any sort of uniform approach as to how to give head, the girls perform quite differently so your mileage may vary, but of the ones i tried that stick in my head here is what i found in order of preference;

consultant n; by far my favourite so far, she has a beautiful smile and maintains great eye contact and sucks at a constant perfect rhythm and just the right level of just fucking everything, i have taken her four times so far, once to the vip room where the sex is pretty decent too, on top of that she has a very nice body to boot and is in my opinion the most attractive of the bunch, she has a caesarean scar if you get her naked but aside from that she's slender and flawless.

every time i came in her mouth also i don't know if she is actually swallowing or if she is just extremely tactful about disposing of the evidence but i don't see it, i like the illusion enough to not ask and have her want to lie to me to maintain it. it's miles ahead of the occasional girl who will go on a minute long retching festival at the sink trying to purge the last remnants of your cum from her mouth. mind you, none of the girls i had at dr bj's actually has done this but some i've had elsewhere have. very little english though.

consultant g; second favourite, she has a wicked smile and is quite cheeky, the things she says during are intensely amusing to me; while wearing a headband with a cute girlish ribbon and polkadots on top she briefly deepthroated me all the way to the base before withdrawing and saying "you're about to throatfuck minnie mouse" in her cute thainglish accent before impaling me again all the way to the base and proceeding to fuck herself in the throat until i blew extremely hard with her lips wrapped around the bottom of my cock.

consultant x; she's quite pretty, has strange kind of alluring eyes, not quite normal looking, she lays on the acting pretty thick to the point where it makes one wonder what lies underneath, but she's game for anything. i actually took her out of the salon and to an inn over the road because i wanted an all night long fuckfest, she blew me to orgasm two times and has been the first woman ever who was actually able to take me anally to boot although she complained afterwards she didn't think she'd be able to toilet right for a few days. she also rimmed me like a starving crazy woman, generally speaking this seems to be her mo, she acts a little crazy.

at first she didn't want to fuck but after about half an hour she changed her mind and we fucked in a few positions and after that is when she went anal. the only complaint i have is that i took her out wanting an all night long fuckfest but she only lasted four hours, by 8:30pm she wanted to sleep but after only cumming four times i was definitely wanting more so packed her on her way to hit the town. more on this later.

consultant u; had her tonight, she sucks extremely hard and fast, at various points throughout it felt like she was trying to forcefully sip my balls through my cock, definitely the most energetic of the girls i've tried but a little rough for my tastes. quite pretty and a nice body.

consultant ee; i took her based on the website recommendation as the highest rated girl and x referring to her as a "superstar" during our session.

tall, nice big dick sucking lips and silicon enhances tits and quite good english but her character gives the impression of being something of a hustler, i know to an extent they all must be but she has a certain ease and with her very good us accented english and casualness it comes across stronger than anyone else i've had so far, it's almost like she's pushing a similar act that x is pushing, but instead of going over the top she feels believable, and that she is believable makes it uncanny, because despite appearances, intellectually speaking, i don't believe it.

she gives excellent head, definite pse with tons of smacking her own tongue with my cock and spit stringers and watching her drool all over me, very visual so that's great. in terms of pure physical pleasure though for my tastes wasn't as good as n.

after she blew me we tried to have sex but she only had a couple of small condoms which firstly were painful to try and get on for me and within five minutes slipped off and got lost inside her anyway so that didn't end up working, during the vip session she only made me cum once about an hour into the session and 30 minutes before the end, at this point it was obvious she wouldn't be able to make me cum again before the session was finished. but due to her character i didn't mind just fucking around being perverted with her for the remainder of that time, i was playing with her clit and massaging her g-spot while she sucked my cock in her inimitable fashion.

she kept commenting about being into [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) (though i'm not) and i was able to fit three fingers inside her ass as well, so anal might have been a possibility too though she said she didn't think she could handle it. post-note; toward the end she had me massaging her g spot with four fingers on the same hand so she is quite accommodating for larger men.

after the four hour session with x that day i was particularly fired up, i went next door to magic table next door to dr bj's, it's kind of a mix between an agogo bar and a blowjob bar as they have a vip room out back, i had been here once before and tried a bj from one of the girls, she was pretty decent but not quite as good as the dedicated girls next door (generally hotter girls though and they dance / tease well) , though the price here is cheaper than consultants next door whilst more expensive than the nurses at 800 baht, all the girls are quite pretty, i'd rate about a 6-8 on them, and they're extremely cheeky / friendly.

i was feeling a little wild that day so i was buying drinks for three ladies at the same time, none of whose names i remember, they were exceptionally flirty and made ample use of the prime attraction at mt, which is a mirrored tabletop upon which they dance without underwear, plenty of spread legs and high velocity dance moves where the primary objective of said move appears to be to get a piece of you as close to a naughty piece of them as they can without actually touching you. the girls would take shifts dancing and the other two would sit one each side touching me up and rubbing / pushing my hands all over them, all in all frankly great fucking foreplay, so in the end i decided to barfine all three of them.

took them back to the hotel i'd just had x in but the actual sex wasn't really that great, especially considering it was three hot girls, one was a 7 and the other two were 8's, one a high 8, but after we'd left the bar the prettiest one just wasn't that raunchy anymore, actually requested that i don't put my fingers inside her pussy before we'd even started doing anything and she was the textbook example of the aforementioned post session sink retching that springs to mind for me now. the 7 was definitely the best performer and was rimming me while the nicer 8 blew me very well and i fondled and stroked the other girl until i blew in her friend's mouth after about an hour. tipped them 2k baht each, really felt like the two that were putting in the better effort should've gotten 2 and the other should've gotten 1 but i didn't want any drama.

five still not enough for me anyway so i was up for some more, i hit soi cowboy and looked around at the various agogo's just having a drink in each and moving on, my least favourite was the dollhouse where three girls were going pretty high pressure on me for drink buying and my most favourite was cowboy 4 which had ridiculously hot women dancing extremely well and very cheeky / flirty behaviour from the girls to boot, i was happy to buy a few drinks here even though i didn't feel pressured into it at all. definitely next time i go back to cowboy i'll be going here.

by the time that night had started winding down i didn't really see anything i felt drawn to take home and play with, so i just left it at the takeout for x and the foursome from magic table, i think next time though i could definitely enjoy spending some more time at cowboy 4.

[Arjun31]

CANDY Was pretty lazy and did not want to go out to the go-go bars at NEP even though I was staying pretty close to it. I had done some reserach before going to BKK so called Cherry massage for an out call (http://cherrymassagebkk.com/) asked for CANDY and she was available.

Age : Between late 20s.Early 30s.

Body: 7. 5/10.

Face: 7/10.

Service : 10/10.

Skill : 8/10.

GFE: 9/10.

Just perfect timing called them at about 10 PM there she was with her friend Apple (for my friend) by 10. 30 PM. Well dressed with a broad smile over her face. I was in my friends room when they had arrived she seemed a bit shy at first compared to Apple who was all over me and my friend and even suggested that we all do it in the same room. But after a drink I left with Candy to my room and once we were in she transformed totally into one sweet sexy girl who could talk good english. After a while we hopped into the shower and then on to the bed where she tried every damn thing she knew BBBJ, HJ, BJ (with her super natural BBs) , then doggy, Miss, Sideways but I was just not coming and then out of no where she removes some lub and rubs it over my LB (protected) and offers me her beautiful, curvy ass. My first anal and man it felt good and I shoot my load off on the nest few strokes. She was a totally satiaflying experience and was keen on me having as many shots. But I was already tired and was happy with only one as I had come twice ealier at Annies. We showered again and she left with her friend.

Dammage : 2500 baths + 500 Tip

[Arjun31]

Next day over breakfast with my friend I was told that Apple was also a great girl to be with and all the talk with my friend started to make me very horny to have an Apple. Had my breakfast went upstiars and had a long bath but my LB was just not listening at about 11 AM called the cherry guys again asked for Apple and was told she was not available. Pretty disappointed I hung up. But my LB made me call then again and asked then who was available immediately, they suggested me VODKA, young new face of their establishment.

Age : Early 20s.

Body: 8/10.

Face: 7. 5/10.

Service : 10/10.

Skill : 8/10.

GFE: 8/10.

Eagerly waiting, and the bell rings at 11. 40 AM man these guys at Cherry are very punctual. I open the door to find a very fresh looking face, welcome her in. My room had a living area and a bedroom. She walked directly into the bedroom. I was pretty hornly and asked her to shower and I had just showered. As soon as she came, I just took her into my arms and bang bang in the next 10 mins everything happened and I shoot my load. Then she cleans me up and we head to the living area sit on the sofa to watch some TV with her in my arms. Offer her a drink she says no and then I had some ice cream which I had bought the previous night (she chose a cornetto strawberry flavor). She unwraps it and offers me to take a bite and now things get wild and before I could swallow any of it she places her lips on mine and sucks it out into her mouth and all the while gently stroking my LB with her other hand. Man this went on for a while and then she kneels down and rubs the last part of the cone on my LB and gives me one hell of a BBBJ and come again in her mouth. She rushes to the restroom to get a towel and spits my cum out. Then cleans me up and we shower together and dresses up and leaves.

Dammage: 2500 bath + 500 Tip

[HornDog 3]

I What I meant by out the door was that I challenged her on her offer and she took it. So wee were back in the room and having fun. She leaved at 5:30 am. I know that girls that are still shuffling at that time are not always the best picks but they sure make an effort to make you happy or they go home with less money for the night.

Now onto Aviva and Miki. At 2:00 walked up the steps and asked mama if Miki was free. She yelled for her and she popped out off the little room that the girls wait in. She gave me a hug and took my hand before I could tell mama what I wanted. Up to the steps and into the room at the far end of the hallway. Wow it is a big room with a tub and a bigger bed. I undressed while Miki went to get her kit. When she came back I Striped her and started to lick those great tits of hers. A quick shower and back on the bed for some making out like highschool kids. She started to lick my nipples then worked her way down to the cock and balls. Soon I in her mouth and it was very nice. She worked until the little guy gave up his juice in her mouth.

Time for her massage and she was happy with my style of massage. Put a lot of oil on her ass and started to rub. Worked my way down to her pussy. Worked on the clit then put a finger in. Soon she was wet and asked my to fuck her. Put on the cover and entered her from the behind. Nice to see her tits swaying in the mirror on the wall. Move to cg and then back to dg'why. Popped and fell on the bed. We were laying on the bed and she said nap time. Ok by me. I was warn out. I woke up and she was still asleep. Looked at my phone at it was 5:00. I woke her up but she did not seem to be in a hurry to shower and change. Walked down stairs and paid mama 800 for room and 1500 for Miki. Gave Miki a tip and kissed her goodbye for now. I will see her again before I leave.

Now what to do on Wednesday.

[Gen X Baer]

Gentleman,

Flight from Taipei arrived in BKK around 12:45AM.

After rushing through the gates and customs, managed to get into a taxi at 1:25AM and managed to get into the hotel around 2:15AM.

As been shared, and advised from all, take a taxi and tell the driver to take the expressway!

I took care of business on the plane as opposed to airport as some people choose to do while waiting for their luggage. I got lucky as my bag was one of the first that came out.

Settled into hotel room and quickly dressed up and managed to get into Soi Cowboy at around 2:30AM.

Small pickings.

Went to the end of the street in the bar where mirrors on top (so you can see the girls dancing from the 1st floor). I had mentioned that bar during my last visit and for heaven's sake, I keep forgetting to remember the name. Anyways, went upstairs as smoker and as it was late and their were only "leftovers" most of the girls kept smiling and flashing me winks. None of them were to my liking however, so I decided to call it a night and head out (Purchased one Coca Cola: 160BHT).

While walking back to the main road, girls kept trying to pull me in and though I did go into three other ones, there was no one really appealing and at 2:45-3:00AM I know their trying to get their last minute pull and drinks out (thanks to all for the heads up). I just walked back to a taxi, and a really pushy taxi driver insisted that he let me take him to a new "Club" named "O".

It was around 3:10AM and I told him that I'm very picky and was a bit tired. He informed me that he would take me there, and we could just see. I told him then that I wouldn't pay for that trip, but from Soi Cowboy to my hotel it'd be only 40BHT so I'd only pay him that much if it wasn't appealing. He agreed.

Location is less then 7 minute drive from Soi Cowboy. Unfortunately I was too tired to keep my eyes open during the ride, but when I looked at my watch it was 3:20AM so thus 7 minute guess. It wasn't a club. Just a small building in the middle of nowhere, but neon signs set up outside with Christmas Lights "CLUB 0."

He actually accompanied me inside and wow. Buffet style. All the girls lined up and the deal was, LT for 3, 000BHT and "anything goes" with condom. I had my doubt. Unfortunately, there was a stunner that caught my eye and she had the body, smile, and attitude that appealed. Talked to her for a bit. And paid the owner 3G (he asked for his tip, and I told him depending on how this girl performs, either I would come back and he had just made a loyal customer so that was his tip. He just smiled and shooed me out). Back trip to hotel with same taxi driver. Tipped him 100BHT so total of 140BHT for trip from Soi Cowboy to Club 0. Then Club 0 to Radisson.

Once we got into the room, Niu (her name) got all sappy on me and told me how they weren't paying her enough at the Club and they were only being given 900BHT even though we paid 3, 000BHT (BTW. Lots of foreigners there). Shit! Typical business routine and I was in no mood for it. I asked her if she did anything extra. Perhaps A+ and she said no. Then no tip. Asked her if she was going to give me a hard time cause of this as she was supposed to stay LT. She was surprised and informed me that it was only ST and one nut bust. Fuck! Mental note to find owner and stab him with a spoon!

She kept looking at me all sappy eyed and even though we haven't started, was begging for a tip. I asked if she does pics at least so that I can get something extra out of this. She said no cause her bf might see it online. Whatever. I just told her then nothing else apart from tip based on performance and taxi.

She then agreed to take pics for an extra 1, 000. I was just tired of her shit and told her fine, and got the camera out and started taking pics. Did the naughty deal with occasional pics here and there. Granted her body was amazing but due to the previous discussion I was more interested in just nutting and getting her out. I thoroughly enjoyed her body and within 3 hours (yeah. I took my damn time on that ST) , sprayed and was literally begging her to get out. Tipped her an extra 350BHT for taxi and her.

Out she went.

Total Damage:

Trip to Soi Cowboy from hotel: 40BHT.

Soi Cowboy drink: 160BHT.

Club O: 3, 000BHT.

Taxi Driver: 140BHT.

Tip for Niu:350BHT.

Headache Total: Priceless.

Total: 3, 690BHT.

Learning from my mistakes still and looking forward to a better night tomorrow.

I'll definitely try and drop by Dr. BJ's or Annie's and write a report for then. Though I am trying to make a "documentary" of my adventure here and there can't really take pictures :P so maybe not! However, if I do, hope to meet Dr. BJ and thanks him for the good input on this forum!

Anyways, enjoy the pics gentleman!

[Somewhere15]

While walking back to the main road, girls kept trying to pull me in and though I did go into three other ones, there was no one really appealing and at 2:45-3:00AM I know their trying to get their last minute pull and drinks out (thanks to all for the heads up). I just walked back to a taxi, and a really pushy taxi driver insisted that he let me take him to a new "Club" named "O".

It was around 3:10AM and I told him that I'm very picky and was a bit tired. He informed me that he would take me there, and we could just see. I told him then that I wouldn't pay for that trip, but from Soi Cowboy to my hotel it'd be only 40BHT so I'd only pay him that much if it wasn't appealing. He agreed.

Location is less then 7 minute drive from Soi Cowboy. Unfortunately I was too tired to keep my eyes open during the ride, but when I looked at my watch it was 3:20AM so thus 7 minute guess. It wasn't a club. Just a small building in the middle of nowhere, but neon signs set up outside with Christmas Lights "CLUB 0."

He actually accompanied me inside and wow. Buffet style. All the girls lined up and the deal was, LT for 3, 000BHT and "anything goes" with condom. I had my doubt. Unfortunately, there was a stunner that caught my eye and she had the body, smile, and attitude that appealed. Talked to her for a bit. And paid the owner 3G (he asked for his tip, and I told him depending on how this girl performs, either I would come back and he had just made a loyal customer so that was his tip. He just smiled and shooed me out). Back trip to hotel with same taxi driver. Tipped him 100BHT so total of 140BHT for trip from Soi Cowboy to Club 0. Then Club 0 to Radisson.

Anyways, enjoy the pics gentleman!Can you give some more guidance / direction where Club O is located?

Thanks

[Gen X Baer]

Can you give some more guidance / direction where Club O is located?

ThanksJust got back from Breakfast.

I'm a bit sleepy and as I mentioned before, I wasn't fully paying attention to direction BUT here is what I can recall.

Out of Soi Cowboy via opposite direction of Nana Plaza.

Took a immediate left when hit intersection and then drove parallel to main road (went off into smaller road).

He sped really fast then for perhaps 5-10k and we ended up in a empty road without much light.

Then doze off. And voila, at the building. Only place with lights on and a bunch of taxi's outside.

Neon sign lit and you can see alot of foreigners (especially Indians) gossiping.

Guy who took charge of me was Chinese and so so in English.

[Dr BJ]

I'll definitely try and drop by Dr. BJ's or Annie's and write a report for then. Though I am trying to make a "documentary" of my adventure here and there can't really take pictures :P so maybe not! However, if I do, hope to meet Dr. BJ and thanks him for the good input on this forum!

Anyways, enjoy the pics gentleman!Always a pleasure to meet board members. I was in Nana on Sunday night with Skogis and Used Day, had a blast and will post a report soon. If you do decide to pop in try to make it before Friday as I am off for 3 days showing a friend the sights (first timer to BKK so it should be interesting).

Regards,

BJ

[Member #4387]

Almost 3 weeks of mongering makes me all worn out so it was with mixed emotions my halfpinay picked me up at the airport yesterday morning. Usualy I don't let her use my car but this time was special so I even did let her pick me up at the airport. Bad mistake. I was probably still smelling pussy. But no she has calmed down as in I have told her no no no no no and no upon her questions if I did sth bad.

Well last night in Bangkok ended Monday morning with a nice street pick up girl from outside Grand President. She proved to be nice. I did write about this in my last FR inside this thread.

I woke up at around 11am and did some breakfast eating. Was far to worn out to go out so just ordered room service. I find that clubsandwiches at Grand president is ok but again how hard can it be to create a decent sandwich. You also get additional french fries which I don't realy fancy for breakfast as I am more of breadman / milkman. Just left them.

At around 1pm I start feel pressure raising in my boxers and it was Skogis junior waking up to say hello. I thought maby a wank when you find yourself in pussyparadise is a bit to lowlife so I showered and headed out to Beergarden (BG) for one last quick pick up. I ordered 1 Shinga. Took one sip and one nice looking tiny sweetie came up next to me. Before she even got the chance to ask me I told her I am from Norway, I have been in Asia a few weeks and I go home tonight (without beeing rude). I had a quick lookaround to see if there was sth better on the menu, did see a couple, but I chose the girl next to me. She told me her name was Nuk (Nik or Nok who gives a shit. They are just nicknames anyway. As her real name prob are sth like Ruindringat or sth. Nothing wrong with that, hehe) .31 yrs and she had this sweetness over her. We started walking and we had a nice chat. Send her off to 7-11 in Soi 11 so she could pick up some condoms and she arrived back with some nasty red ones smelled straberries. I waited in the Grand President tower 2 lobby. She arrived and we headed back to room.

She did her usual Thairoutine and when she came out she start playing my boner. She gave great BJ and she almost tricked me into coming a bit to fast. I found my sunblock factor 30 glewed her ass and popped her hard in the barn. Could not hold back to long so ripped off the fruit on my dick (condom) and she did a nice CIM with great suction as well. I watched she swallowed (quite rare Thaigirls do that but it happens). Great and giving girl and if I might add once again a nice experience from a BG girl.

Frankly to have frequented BG quite a few years now for additional daytime fucks I have to say I rarerly have been dissapointed. Quite sure there are few 9 and 10 ladies present. But a lot of 6-8 girls (and these girls almost never fail to performe good). I have watched some great lookings girls as well but few. What works the best for me at this location is to wait until a girl contacts you and come sit next to you. That means you have to do a tactical sitdown upon your aprroach so you don't sit your ass down between 2 big guys (that is nice for chatting but my BG moments are only for mongering and not for beeing friendly to other mongerers). Sit or stand where you easily can view ladies and they can view you and try to have space around for atleast a visit of 2 ladies. This due to many of the girls in BG operates in pairs. You can pick one of them but I guess they are more happy if both get picked. And we are all into it to make us self happy and the girls happy (not beeing to cheap moneywice). My Nuk was maby 160cm, very skinny and very good attitude. I would rate her a 7 for looks and 8 for performance (I did not let her performe to much in all fairness to her but great blowjobskills she did have and the rent of ass was more up to me as I did all the work). I gave her 2000. Which I decided from the beginning if she did well. She would easily did the same work for 1000. I was leaving the same afternoon and don't need Bahts anymore.

Later the evening Siemens girl (regular girl) came over after she finished her work. Arrived around 6pm and we had a couple of rounds as well. Just so I could sleep easily on the planes monkey class seat. Atleast I was drenched and I felt relaxed. She followed me to the airport and since I actually was leaving for home I thought "I don't see the point but why not" (maby she just like me. Crazy thought, hehe). She did the crying bit at the airport before me headed to the escalators up to security check (well I was actually a bit softhearted myself I will give her that as she is damn good and fine girl).

Writing this I will most certainly return soon again as this game never gets boring. I enjoy coming home to my normal environment and friends (and maby even have to say norwegian girlfriend) it is not like that but mongering is mongering. The freedom of choosing whoever you want whenever you want is hard to beat.

Bye bye

[Bunky]

Long time reader, first time poster, I'm kinda shy and private so excuse lack of casual tone if it comes across too much.Superb post. Thanks taking the time to write it up, and welcome to the ISG.

Bunky

[Luvpuss]

What a nice alternative to the standard BJ bar on offer in Bangkok. This place literally blew my mind! Had an awesome time with Lek who is mid 20's with a pretty darn big chest but small at the waist!

I think I might head back over today!Thanks for the report.

But how is it different than the "standard" BJ bar in BKK?

You pick a girl, she takes you upstairs, you blast a load in her throat, you pay and leave.

[Gen X Baer]

Not exactly a FR, but I just wanted to share my run-in with Dr. BJ.

A little bit late but better late then never I say.

Had the pleasure of meeting Dr. BJ today and IMHO the gentleman is a good guy.

Woke up around 15:00 due to the late arrival and adventure the previous night, but I had posted earlier that I would like to meet him and as he had responded that he'd be more then happy to meet a fellow ISG, I took him up on that.

Walked into his biz and caught him wrapped up in a little bit of work. From perception, the guy is down to earth just like any other person. Apart from of course he has a rockin business going on that I am most definitely jealous of :P LOL!

I offered to buy him a drink and he was kind enough to spare me an hour to just talk and share opinions and ideas.

Talked a little about politics, old times, our perception on the culture of both Korea, Thailand, etc.

Of course, shared his wisdom in regards to the mongering scene in BKK. Truly appreciated that as he had read up on some of my previous posts and knew I needed the tips.

All around, I look forward to running into him again in the future and will drop by his biz not only to take care of the little guy downstairs, but to have good small talk!

Cheers Dr. BJ!

It was definitely a pleasure meeting you.

[Gen X Baer]

Decided to visit Nana Plaza today around 12:00AM.

I actually got to know one of the CON members in the hotel, and caught him exactly on his shift end and he kindly offered me to drive me to Nana Plaza.

Well enough, the guy is pretty cool and goes by the name of Biggy. He didn't ask me for anything at the end of the trip.

We did a whole round trip of the block googling at the girls and joking a bit and once we got back to the main gate, he dropped me off and only asked I have a good time (and to watch out for the lady boys)!

This place is definately different from Soi Cowboy IMO to those who haven't been.

Three floors decked out with bars and a bit more intidmidating due to the closed corridors and rough-looking guys at the door of each bar, but still open and welcoming once inside.

My first drop was at Spanky's on the second floor. Once you enter the plaza, on your immediate left are a set of stairs (Lollipop is right next to it I beleive) , and saw the sign that they had fun shows. I decided to step in and grab a Cola as I do not drink. Got seated next to some British fellow, and he was a bit upset I think, as he wasn't very welcoming. I still said hallo and tried to small talk. He wasn't taking any of it so I let the man be and into 5 minutes he informed me that he was waiting for a friend. Took that as a hint that he wanted me to get lost. Thankfully, none of the goods displayed were to my liking. All small titties.

I was able to manage three shows during my twenty minute stay there. They have a small shower stall in the back where girls get in and get all wet and dance sexily for the audience. If you're into that kind of thing. Enjoy!

On the main stage. They had a Girl on Girl show at one moment where the ladies would lube each other with lotion and get all hot'and sexy. You can sit right up to the stage and as it's at your level, sometimes the girls will pull you in and joke around with you. Really friendly and fun place. However, as I mentioned. Nothing was appealing so I drank a Cola and walked out.

1 Cola: 140BHT.

Second stop was Angel Witch right next door. Dead! No one inside and the ladies were all sitting and maybe one or two on stage. Additionally, it's damn dark in there. I walked in, let my eyes adjust and the in charge tried dead hard to pull me in. I informed her I was just looking, and noticed all flat chests. Walked out.

Third was in DC-10 at the end of the 3rd floor. This place is pretty small compared to the other two mentioned above, but the concept was like an airplane. Chairs hugging both walls and a platform in the middle for the girls to dance on. Frankly speaking, there were only four on stage but they were the most fun and welcoming as compared to others. All of them smiled and teased you here and there (shaking the ass at you, flashing, quick question to make it look like they're interested in you). Also, the dancing was truly dancing. Not that fake shit where the girls are on stage just doing the shuffle. Actual shaking and movement like in a club. The waitress was quiet nice as well and didn't push in any way at all for tips toward the end like other places. Unfortunately, nothing was appealing same as before so I enjoyed a orange juice and walked out.

1 Orange Juice: 140BHT.

I then dropped by the some other bars that I can't recall. Some were just for ladyboys and others were completely empty (third floor especially). So I decided to head on to the first floor and gander at the FL. There was a lot of potential and truth be honest, I really am not afraid of ladyboys nor feel awkward around them. As long as they don't have a schlong, I'm cool with the fact that they've chosen to be a woman so I'll look at them that way. Just my perspective of course. But I'd definately prefer a woman! LOL.

As I was bird watching, got a little bit thirsty so walked toward 7-11 on the left side of the exit of Nana Plaza. On my way there, sexy little Joy caught my eye but I was more thirsty. Walked by her, got a Gatorade, and as I was walking back this little sexy thing grabs me and asks if she could be my gf for the night. SCORE!

From all the tips and hints that I've received from everyone, I played it cool and for once the little dude below didn't get the better of me. We talked about what she could provide and what she was expecting to receive. A+, BBBJ, COB, CFS, PIC ok (sharing with face covered) , Multiple pops on the plate for 2, 500BHT (LT). And off we went.

The pics will show a little bit of what happened but I won't get into that detail as there wasn't any special issues as Niu had done the previous night. Well behaved girl. She even showered with me and just had fun. Session lasted approximately 5 hours and 4 romps total. With tip and taxi money, total damage was 2, 700BHT.

Trip to Nana Plaza: Free.

Spending on drinks: 280 BHT.

Taxi back to hotel: 60BHT.

Joy: 2700 BHT.

Total Damage: 3040BHT.

Overall, a good day with some great experience. Tomorrow, I'll be dropping by Annie's as suggested by many. Unfortunately, no pics there and I won't be able to head out at night!

Nonetheless, enjoy gentleman!

[AsiaTraveler2]

Dude,

Great post! For someone who held out for a while, when you jumped in, you really jumped in!


Long time reader, first time poster, I'm kinda shy and private so excuse lack of casual tone if it comes across too much.

I came to Thailand 3 months ago without any actual intent to indulge in the local attractions so to speak, I regarded the entire thing as something of a curiosity more than something I could actually involve myself in personally but after dipping my toe in the water I've found although the experience can be mixed, it's certainly like nothing else available in the world right now. I can only write from the perspective I have experienced, so keeping that in mind; I'm a very large thirty something guy not too repulsive (I hope but maybe that's just bullshit self serving bias). <cut That is all anyone can offer, is there own experience. Entertaining post, to say the least.


I started off trying Tulip out a couple months back just once, first P4P experience ever, the girl was somewhat mechanical but extremely raunchy in terms of being up for absolutely everything, I freaked out at various multiple points throughout the encounter, first when she pushed my legs up and started licking my ass which was a complete first for me and later on when she was jacking me off bareback into her mouth after a great sloppy deep blowjob telling me she wanted to taste my cum most of all. <cut>Tulip is a great place for a first experience. About mid level when it comes to lineup looks, but you do get your money's worth. Eden offers the "porn star experience", but I prefer Tulip.


Needless to say after that experience I was somewhat interested to try more. <cut>No shit!


Tall, nice big dick sucking lips and silicon enhances tits and quite good english but her character gives the impression of being something of a hustler, <cut>My twisted mind chuckled at this line, since you can read it as "nice BIG DICK sucking lips" or "NICE BIG dick sucking lips". I know you meant both. ;)


I was feeling a little wild that day so I was buying drinks for three ladies at the same time, none of whose names I remember, they were exceptionally flirty and made ample use of the prime attraction at MT, which is a mirrored tabletop upon which they dance without underwear, plenty of spread legs and high velocity dance moves where the primary objective of said move appears to be to get a piece of you as close to a naughty piece of them as they can without actually touching you. The girls would take shifts dancing and the other two would sit one each side touching me up and rubbing / pushing my hands all over them, all in all frankly great fucking foreplay, so in the end I decided to barfine all three of them.<cut>

What part of shy and private did I not understand? ;)


Five still not enough for me anyway so I was up for some more, I hit Soi Cowboy and looked around at the various agogo's just having a drink in each and moving on, my least favourite was the dollhouse where three girls were going pretty high pressure on me for drink buying and my most favourite was Cowboy 4 which had ridiculously hot women dancing extremely well and very cheeky / flirty behaviour from the girls to boot, I was happy to buy a few drinks here even though I didn't feel pressured into it at all. Definitely next time I go back to Cowboy I'll be going here. <cut>Did you mean Cowboy 2 or is there a new bar I missed?


By the time that night had started winding down I didn't really see anything I felt drawn to take home and play with, so I just left it at the takeout for X and the foursome from magic table, I think next time though I could definitely enjoy spending some more time at Cowboy 4.I hope to see more of your adventures posted!

AT2

[Puttex]

where do i find [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) i can't find it on golgle maps?

and whats the different from a normal bar or dr bj?


what a nice alternative to the standard bj bar on offer in bangkok. this place literally blew my mind! had an awesome time with lek who is mid 20's with a pretty darn big chest but small at the waist!

i think i might head back over today!

[AsiaTraveler2]

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Second stop was Angel Witch right next door. Dead! No one inside and the ladies were all sitting and maybe one or two on stage. Additionally, it's damn dark in there. I walked in, let my eyes adjust and the in charge tried dead hard to pull me in. I informed her I was just looking, and noticed all flat chests. Walked out.

Third was in DC-10 at the end of the 3rd floor. This place is pretty small compared to the other two mentioned above, but the concept was like an airplane. Chairs hugging both walls and a platform in the middle for the girls to dance on. Frankly speaking, there were only four on stage but they were the most fun and welcoming as compared to others. All of them smiled and teased you here and there (shaking the ass at you, flashing, quick question to make it look like they're interested in you). Also, the dancing was truly dancing. Not that fake shit where the girls are on stage just doing the shuffle. Actual shaking and movement like in a club. The waitress was quiet nice as well and didn't push in any way at all for tips toward the end like other places. Unfortunately, nothing was appealing same as before so I enjoyed a orange juice and walked out. <cut

As I was bird watching, got a little bit thirsty so walked toward 7-11 on the left side of the exit of Nana Plaza. On my way there, sexy little Joy caught my eye but I was more thirsty. Walked by her, got a Gatorade, and as I was walking back this little sexy thing grabs me and asks if she could be my gf for the night. SCORE!

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Trip to Nana Plaza: Free.

Spending on drinks: 280 BHT.

Taxi back to hotel: 60BHT.

Joy: 2700 BHT.

Total Damage: 3040BHT.

Overall, a good day with some great experience. Tomorrow, I'll be dropping by Annie's as suggested by many. Unfortunately, no pics there and I won't be able to head out at night!

Nonetheless, enjoy gentleman!I had a similar experience last week and through the weekend. Buyers market. Clubs were empty. Small clubs with a small selection of girls. Girls offering greatly reduced prices, from 500 baht to 1,500 baht. Rainbow 4 and Bacarra girls offering LT at short time rates. Not all the girls mind you, and not the top end girls, but enough of them and a good selection. A lot of freelancers near NEP. After the other poster had questions about a daily budget, I was also thinking about doing the "Priceless" routine too! LOL!

I spent an average of 8,000 baht per day, excluding the hotel. That is less than my normal budget. I did not hit any of the G-Clubs. Each day included 1,500 baht in meals, BTS all day pass, MRT, taxi's, and other incidentals. I had at least one massage each day, a freelancer, an oily or Nuru, and either a Soapy or a GoGo and sometimes both. The meals were 100 to 400 baht, BTS all day pass 130 baht, taxi's 40 baht, massage 400 baht, oily's 2,000 baht, freelancers 500 to 1,000 baht, Soapy's 2,600 to 3,200 baht, GoGo's about 3,000 baht (600 baht barfine, 2,000 for the girl, 140 to 160 baht beers, and girl drinks), and GoGo girls after hours about 1,500 baht.

The city is full of beautiful woman, at the hotels, stores. 7-11's, restaurants, and any place else you can think of. There was a hottie at Jaymart at the Siam Paragon. She would have fit right in with the Rainbow 4 lineup. I am sure she would be happy to sell you a JPad or a JFone!

AT2

[Luvpuss]

I had a similar experience last week and through the weekend. Buyers market. Clubs were empty. Small clubs with a small selection of girls. Girls offering greatly reduced prices, from 500 baht to 1, 500 baht. Rainbow 4 and Bacarra girls offering LT at short time rates. Not all the girls mind you, and not the top end girls, but enough of them and a good selection. A lot of freelancers near NEP. After the other poster had questions about a daily budget, I was also thinking about doing the "Priceless" routine too! LOL!

I spent an average of 8, 000 baht per day, excluding the hotel. That is less than my normal budget. I did not hit any of the G-Clubs. Each day included 1, 500 baht in meals, BTS all day pass, MRT, taxi's, and other incidentals. I had at least one massage each day, a freelancer, an oily or Nuru, and either a Soapy or a GoGo and sometimes both. The meals were 100 to 400 baht, BTS all day pass 130 baht, taxi's 40 baht, massage 400 baht, oily's 2, 000 baht, freelancers 500 to 1, 000 baht, Soapy's 2, 600 to 3, 200 baht, GoGo's about 3, 000 baht (600 baht barfine. 2,000 for the girl. 140 to 160 baht beers, and girl drinks) , and GoGo girls after hours about 1, 500 baht.

The city is full of beautiful woman, at the hotels, stores. 7-11's, restaurants, and any place else you can think of. There was a hottie at Jaymart at the Siam Paragon. She would have fit right in with the Rainbow 4 lineup. I am sure she would be happy to sell you a JPad or a JFone!

AT2Maybe more than we think are reading this site and the word is getting out what a rip off the clubs and Gogo's are.

That is a good thing for everyone who goes to those places if prices are in fact lower due to lack of customers.

[Western787]

Maybe more than we think are reading this site and the word is getting out what a rip off the clubs and Gogo's are.

That is a good thing for everyone who goes to those places if prices are in fact lower due to lack of customers.The Yen has been in free fall against the Baht in recent months (20% drop) , and perhaps its now taking a toll on Japanese visitors.

[Ehunter]

Maybe more than we think are reading this site and the word is getting out what a rip off the clubs and Gogo's are.

That is a good thing for everyone who goes to those places if prices are in fact lower due to lack of customers.If they are such a rip off it does not matter how cheap the price is, so how can it be good for anyone at all?

[Dr BJ]

Cheers Dr. BJ!

It was definitely a pleasure meeting you.The pleasure in the meeting experience was mutual. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation comparing notes not only on the scene in Bangkok but different aspects about SE Asia in general. While you are here please feel free to pop in, in fact I will be going to Cowboy on Saturday night with a friend so if you would like to join us give me a call. The number of my business cell is on the web site. Just one question. The latest pic's you posted, are those breasts real or enhanced? As I have stated on here before my preference is for small pert breasts but those looked very alluring indeed. Harold, not including the girls face is called dignity, give it a try some time mate.

Regards,

BJ

[Gen X Baer]

A naked vagina and braless tits arent all that much fun to see without the face.

How about you show the face and keep the rest to yourself. LOL.I think that's your personal opinion.

I've been getting a lot of PM's saying good job with the pics and not minding the face being censored.

Plus, if the girls ask to hide their face if open to having their picture posted online, I'm not going to be a ass about it and lie to them.

Though it is a service we have paid for, they are still human beings after all.

[BionicMan]

A naked vagina and braless tits arent all that much fun to see without the face.I don't know which pictures you have been looking at as from those images I cannot even see wheteher she shaved or not. Thise pictures seem great to me! A change from the gyno ones.

[Tony Hoeprano]

If they are such a rip off it does not matter how cheap the price is, so how can it be good for anyone at all?Luvpuss just think it's a ripoff because the top flight girls don't offer anal nor rawdagging and creampies

[Dr BJ]

Next up I tried Dr BJ's for the first time and frankly realised how much I had just been fucking around with the others, for my tastes this place is perfect, they have a lineup of "Nurses" and "Consultants" which are distinguished primarily by the nurses being a bit chunkier and although I only tried one nurse before sticking completely to the consultants only after the past two week, it seems their technique is not quite as good either.Welcome to the forum. Well done for taking the time to post such a detailed report. I am glad you enjoyed visiting the Salon and thank you very much for sharing that with the BM's.

Regards,

BJ

[Cunning Stunt]

How about you show the face and keep the rest to yourself. LOL.How about you show us all a photo of what you are fucking? There again don't bother. A picture of your right hand wouldn't be much fun!

[Dr BJ]

I think we are getting a bit off track here Gent's. Having met and mongered with both Fruit Ninja and Skogis I believe I can give an unbiased assessment. Skogis is not a rebellious teenager posting on this and possibly other forums whilst jacking off in his basement with one ear open to make sure he does not get rumbled by his mother. I know both his age and his occupation, neither of which I will be divulging here. Suffice to say he earns very good money with his chosen occupation. If anyone takes the time to analyze one of his last posts it is clear he makes enough reddies to monger extensively and keep his Norwegian girlfriend in the dark. There is no way you can pull this off if you don't have the financial clout to conceal it. I spoke to Skogis for at least two hours the very first time I met him. At my age I can quickly become disinterested in a conversation if it lacks interesting content, that didn't happen. Before he left we arranged a night of go-go mongering (a scene which was new to him) and I will have no hesitation going out with him again if he feels so inclined to do so. How much he, or anyone else for that matter, decides to spend when they come to Bangkok is their business alone. Sure people can say it is not for them and they employ different tactics. But to heavily criticize someone for this is short-sighted and narrow minded. Believe me there are people who spend a lot more on a nights entertainment than Skogis does. Let me know when you will be back in town and perhaps this time you can show me mongering from your side of the fence.

Fruit Ninja is an equally pleasurable chap. I managed to converse with him just as easily as I did with Skogis and in the same manner we agreed to hit the town before he had to catch his flight back to USA. Ironically on both occasions it was NEP we went to. The only difference is FN and myself hit up Annie's the following day for some pre-booked action, both of us left smiling. We headed to one of my favourite restaurants and had a very nice meal before he had to go and pack for his flight. The reality is I would have felt comfortable sitting there talking away. I would not consider myself a rude person (some may do) but if I don't want to talk to someone or go out with them then I won't.

What annoyed FN was skogis reference to Americans having a higher propensity to be annoying. I think there are some cultural differences at play here. Europeans find it easier to talk to or spend time with other Europeans as we have a closer heritage. The World does not universally hate Americans just for being Americans. IMO "some" Americans can come across as lacking cultural awareness or sensitivity for other races. Harold, saying people are full of shit for posting honest reports is about as much use as Tuna flavoured vaginal lube. Please try not to comment on things you have zero knowledge about. If both you guys are back in town at the same time (and you both contact me to tell me you are) I suggest we all get together and "give it large" on a night out. What say the two of you?

So let's stop picking pepper out of fly shit and get back to sharing information about the girls we fuck and the places we go to so that like minded people can benefit from our collective experiences. I will be showing a complete green horn around Bangkok this weekend so I will start the ball rolling in the right direction with some juicy FR's, lets all try to maintain the momentum guy's.

Regards.

BJ

[FruitNinja]

I had a similar experience last week and through the weekend. Buyers market. Clubs were empty. Small clubs with a small selection of girls. Girls offering greatly reduced prices, from 500 baht to 1, 500 baht. Rainbow 4 and Bacarra girls offering LT at short time rates. Not all the girls mind you, and not the top end girls, but enough of them and a good selection. A lot of freelancers near NEP. After the other poster had questions about a daily budget, I was also thinking about doing the "Priceless" routine too! LOL!

I spent an average of 8, 000 baht per day, excluding the hotel. That is less than my normal budget. I did not hit any of the G-Clubs. Each day included 1, 500 baht in meals, BTS all day pass, MRT, taxi's, and other incidentals. I had at least one massage each day, a freelancer, an oily or Nuru, and either a Soapy or a GoGo and sometimes both. The meals were 100 to 400 baht, BTS all day pass 130 baht, taxi's 40 baht, massage 400 baht, oily's 2, 000 baht, freelancers 500 to 1, 000 baht, Soapy's 2, 600 to 3, 200 baht, GoGo's about 3, 000 baht (600 baht barfine. 2,000 for the girl. 140 to 160 baht beers, and girl drinks) , and GoGo girls after hours about 1, 500 baht.

The city is full of beautiful woman, at the hotels, stores. 7-11's, restaurants, and any place else you can think of. There was a hottie at Jaymart at the Siam Paragon. She would have fit right in with the Rainbow 4 lineup. I am sure she would be happy to sell you a JPad or a JFone!

AT2When I was there Rainbow-4 was at about half capacity but Baccara was busting at the seams. There was barely a seat open. I couldn't help but think what would happen there in case of fire especially with that stupid staircase to the second floor.

So is there a reason for such a difference in one month?

FN

[Mangoes]

Hey all,

Came across this forum 3 days back while I was searching for some gogo bar reviews. Lurked around for sometime. Decided to register and introduce myself.

Have a upcoming trip to Bangkok in April. Wanted to see what was going on. Have visited Bangkok around 3 times now.

First was an all business trip. No mongering that time.

2nd time was 2 years back, I stayed on Silom road and decided to do venture out and check out the scene. Went to Patpong where I frequented this Kings Court 2 gogo bar. Really nice experience. Picked up the best looking girl for 3K baht inclusive of room and bar fine etc who was not that great service wise (as is usually the case everywhere). Didn't shower together. Gave me a covered BJ and FS. No DFK as well. Not VFM at all.

Next day I went again, this time a bit late around 12ish. Picked up a real cute looking fresh one this time who somehow was given a miss that evening by the regulars. 2K Baht ST inclusive of room etc. This one joined me in the shower and really enjoyed DFK. Good GFE for a ST. If I had not an early morning flight, I would have definitely gone LT, maybe even book her for couple of days. Sigh. Still regret it.

3rd time was a year back. This time a few friends were already there for a few days for a birthday bash. They already had picked up some uzbek girls from Shock39 club and insisted I do the same. Went to this club alongwith them. Club was full of fellow Indian mongers. Some of the stunners were actually being competed upon. LOL. So kinda hated the club pick up scene. Sadly too many of us are now descending to LOS and spoiling the market. Some bad behaviour from few have also ruined it for many of us. Anyway I picked up late 20ish but decent looking Uzbek who was smiling at me. Turned out she didn't drink or smoke which was great as I am non-smoker. All of the others were smoking like chimneys. Quoted 5K for ST. I offered 6K for LT plus some extra if she made me happy. FS pretty basic but lots of DFK and GFE. Paid 1K extra. Called her next day as well as I didn't feel like going out to pick up. Took her out for dinner as well and then the usual in the evening. Good time overall.

Stayed at the Dawin near Nana where I don't think will stay again. Room was neat but too small and had no view. Felt very cramped.

This time in April may stay a bit longer around 5 days or so. Will not be going for Uzbeks / disco this time. Gogo bars (Baccara, Shark etc) and places like Dr. BJ Bar and Poseidon (or any other suggestions) etc on the mind. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Wolf Hound]

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[Rjsss212]

if the girls ask to hide their face if open to having their picture posted online, I'm not going to be a ass about it and lie to them.Fair enough (though I doubt that even with eyes uncovered anyone could pick her out of a line up) but why the watermark? Really think someone wants to steal your cellphone pics?

[AsiaTraveler2]

When I was there Rainbow-4 was at about half capacity but Baccara was busting at the seams. There was barely a seat open. I couldn't help but think what would happen there in case of fire especially with that stupid staircase to the second floor.

So is there a reason for such a difference in one month?

FNThe only thing that was happening was the election, and I do not think it would affect the market. I wish I could answer the question, but your guess is as good as mine. It did seem slow compared to all my previous visits to the LOS.

AT2

[Old New Guy]

So let's stop picking pepper out of fly shit and get back to sharing information about the girls we fuck

BJWhat a great line, I'll try to remember it for a worth occasion.

Here's my mini contribution for the day, was at Insanity few nights ago, total seller market. Only seen two really remarkable creatures, they were at the same table. Cover charge 300b, way too much. Asked one girl, she wanted 2K and would not budge, no vibe, left, strolled a little, nothing to be had, and called it a night.

[FruitNinja]

The only thing that was happening was the election, and I do not think it would affect the market. I wish I could answer the question, but your guess is as good as mine. It did seem slow compared to all my previous visits to the LOS.

AT2It might be worth trying next year to see if its an anomaly or a yearly think. I'm not a bargain hunter per se but when I was there the odds were definitely in the girls favor bargaining wise.

Thanks

[TConor]

CANDY Was pretty lazy and did not want to go out to the go-go bars at NEP even though I was staying pretty close to it. I had done some reserach before going to BKK so called Cherry massage for an out call (

http://cherrymassagebkk.com/

) asked for CANDY and she was available.

Age : Between late 20s. Early 30s.

Body: 7. 5/10.

Face: 7/10.

Service : 10/10.

Skill : 8/10.

GFE: 9/10.

Just perfect timing called them at about 10 PM there she was with her friend Apple (for my friend) by 10. 30 PM. Well dressed with a broad smile over her face. I was in my friends room when they had arrived she seemed a bit shy at first compared to Apple who was all over me and my friend and even suggested that we all do it in the same room. But after a drink I left with Candy to my room and once we were in she transformed totally into one sweet sexy girl who could talk good english. After a while we hopped into the shower and then on to the bed where she tried every damn thing she knew BBBJ, HJ, BJ (with her super natural BBs) , then doggy, Miss, Sideways but I was just not coming and then out of no where she removes some lub and rubs it over my LB (protected) and offers me her beautiful, curvy ass. My first anal and man it felt good and I shoot my load off on the nest few strokes. She was a totally satiaflying experience and was keen on me having as many shots. But I was already tired and was happy with only one as I had come twice ealier at Annies. We showered again and she left with her friend.

Dammage : 2500 baths + 500 TipBut wasn't she quite large compared to her photos?

[Crazy4Thai]

had a wander last night and decided to stop in at the nuru slide to see what the deal is. was met on reception by a very ill mannered gentleman who gave me the run down and pricing structure which isn't the best in all honesty. his description of proceedings was fairly misleading and alarming and insisted on telling me to make the girl do what i want!

the line up was poor and my money is better appreciated in a comfortable and professional manner such as cherry or apple. i will pass on the nuru slide from dr bj and continue with the solid performance of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and apple massage.if you track wh's posts it's clear that he has some issue with the dr. bj's establishments and continually posts negatively about any and all things related to dr. bj. it also appears that he has never been a paying customer of said establishments, so it leads one to wonder just what is his problem. you'll see that most of his posts have been deleted by the admin as being argumentative. i expect that i am speaking for the majority of members of this board when i write that he has no credibility with us.

c4t

[Luvpuss]

Hey all,

Came across this forum 3 days back while I was searching for some gogo bar reviews. Lurked around for sometime. Decided to register and introduce myself.

Have a upcoming trip to Bangkok in April. Wanted to see what was going on. Have visited Bangkok around 3 times now.

First was an all business trip. No mongering that time.

2nd time was 2 years back, I stayed on Silom road and decided to do venture out and check out the scene. Went to Patpong where I frequented this Kings Court 2 gogo bar. Really nice experience. Picked up the best looking girl for 3K baht inclusive of room and bar fine etc who was not that great service wise (as is usually the case everywhere). Didn't shower together. Gave me a covered BJ and FS. No DFK as well. Not VFM at all.

Next day I went again, this time a bit late around 12ish. Picked up a real cute looking fresh one this time who somehow was given a miss that evening by the regulars. 2K Baht ST inclusive of room etc. This one joined me in the shower and really enjoyed DFK. Good GFE for a ST. If I had not an early morning flight, I would have definitely gone LT, maybe even book her for couple of days. Sigh. Still regret it.

3rd time was a year back. This time a few friends were already there for a few days for a birthday bash. They already had picked up some uzbek girls from Shock39 club and insisted I do the same. Went to this club alongwith them. Club was full of fellow Indian mongers. Some of the stunners were actually being competed upon. LOL. So kinda hated the club pick up scene. Sadly too many of us are now descending to LOS and spoiling the market. Some bad behaviour from few have also ruined it for many of us. Anyway I picked up late 20ish but decent looking Uzbek who was smiling at me. Turned out she didn't drink or smoke which was great as I am non-smoker. All of the others were smoking like chimneys. Quoted 5K for ST. I offered 6K for LT plus some extra if she made me happy. FS pretty basic but lots of DFK and GFE. Paid 1K extra. Called her next day as well as I didn't feel like going out to pick up. Took her out for dinner as well and then the usual in the evening. Good time overall.

Stayed at the Dawin near Nana where I don't think will stay again. Room was neat but too small and had no view. Felt very cramped.

This time in April may stay a bit longer around 5 days or so. Will not be going for Uzbeks / disco this time. Gogo bars (Baccara, Shark etc) and places like Dr. BJ Bar and Poseidon (or any other suggestions) etc on the mind. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.Alrighty then.

5 years ago I had a great GFE from Nana car park. Thank you.

[RBDave]

I think that's your personal opinion.

I've been getting a lot of PM's saying good job with the pics and not minding the face being censored.

Plus, if the girls ask to hide their face if open to having their picture posted online, I'm not going to be a ass about it and lie to them.

Though it is a service we have paid for, they are still human beings after all.I'm glad I re-read your post. Originally, I thought you said "I'm going to be an ass about it."

I agree with you 100. I think it would be assholish to post an identifying picture without consent.

[Tony Hoeprano]

What a great line, I'll try to remember it for a worth occasion.

Here's my mini contribution for the day, was at Insanity few nights ago, total seller market. Only seen two really remarkable creatures, they were at the same table. Cover charge 300b, way too much. Asked one girl, she wanted 2K and would not budge, no vibe, left, strolled a little, nothing to be had, and called it a night.You can avoid the cover charge if you enter through the restaurant. The only thing is you don't get a free drink.

[GooberMonger]

Last night I'm sitting in Cowboy Bar 1 2 and I got one cutie with me, who is 21 and she says to me," Wow I feel old these girls are mostly a lot younger than me." I think nothing of it.

I'm drinking and checking out all the LBFMs trying to make up my mind on a GF for my GF.

Then the mamason starts running around going crazy, yelling at the girls and pulling girls off the stage. I'm trying to figure out what's going on so I go outside and there is about 20-30 cops coming down the soi with signs and going into all the bars.

One on the signs says "Stop bring our children into begging." Oh, so that's what they're calling it these days. LOL.

Pics attached,

Cheers and happy beggar hunting.

[Franciscass]

if you track wh's posts it's clear that he has some issue with the dr. bj's establishments and continually posts negatively about any and all things related to dr. bj. it also appears that he has never been a paying customer of said establishments, so it leads one to wonder just what is his problem. you'll see that most of his posts have been deleted by the admin as being argumentative. i expect that i am speaking for the majority of members of this board when i write that he has no credibility with us.

c4tit's a matter of debate whether you speak for the majority. it does seem that when a member posts a less than flattering review of the doc's operation whether on the quality of service or the quality of the providers thay are immediaedly pounced on as having some conspiratorial hidden agenda. of late the scot himself has adopted a new ' i'm everybody's best new friend' persona in an attempt to encourage more traffic to his shops. and leaves the attacks on his detractors to his "surrogates".

my issues with him is that he uses the forum more than anybody else to promote his business. that's ok. and some will like his place while others won't. those that don't have the right to post their experience without being ridiculed but he cannot accept the criticism and previously would personalise his response in a demeaning tone. now he leaves that to some members who seem to have some kind of personal relationship with him. if you use the forum to promote youself like he does, you have to live with the consequences, take the good with the not so good.

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.

also the oily which is in fact what nuru gel is is staffed by the least attractive crew in town in that p4p space but he charges as much if not more than shops like snow white, angle, ez etc where the talent is infinitely better. that said i do accept his places are clean and the service may be acceptable some of the time.

the purpose of the forum is to share and inform so that especially new arrivals are aware of the scene here. dr bj has his place in the scheme of things but what he provides most particularly in the quality of the girls is below average. this is simply a fact of life known to all who have visited soi7/1 and passed by his places. most long term residents familiar with both quality and pricing would i feel agree with this assessment.

[Old New Guy]

You can avoid the cover charge if you enter through the restaurant. The only thing is you don't get a free drink.Great tip Tony, thanks a bunch!

[AsiaTraveler2]

It might be worth trying next year to see if its an anomaly or a yearly think. I'm not a bargain hunter per se but when I was there the odds were definitely in the girls favor bargaining wise.

ThanksBased on the posts by you, Skogis, and Dr. BJ, I may have been in town the same time as you were. Just the week before and after the election. I do not think it is the time of year, since this has never been a slow period on my past visits. I believe it's a anomaly. Dr. BJ lives in BKK, so he could have some insight.

AT2

[Gen X Baer]

Fair enough (though I doubt that even with eyes uncovered anyone could pick her out of a line up) but why the watermark? Really think someone wants to steal your cellphone pics?To be honest, it's cause I've gotten enough shit from people on here saying pics were taken from amateur pages or they do take and claim as their own. U might not be someone to do so, but trust me, there are those who don't actually venture yet post fantasies online as FR.

Plus, is it that bad that I want to stamp each pic with watermarks?

[NikCool10]

I had a chance to visit Annie's couple of weeks back. I dint know the place, it took a bit of searching after reaching NANA and its hidden behind the car park of Raja hotel, Annie's club is visible from far off and once you are there, just few steps away is the MP and once you enter, its on the 1st floor. There is a bar counter at the entrance and once you walk in further, the fishbowl is seen. I was there around 2 pm and most of the girls were busy, the lady mamasan, not aey, I don't know her name was very rude and pushy.

I was in mood for a soapy and had not been to Annie's before so asked her for advice and she was like these 3 girls are only avaiable and all are good and if you want you take.

By then there was one girl who just walked in the fish bowl, so I thot she looked better out of all, a little short and nice firm ass and small tits. Tough one can be easily fooled by the wonder bras. Anyways, having not much of a choice, I choose her.

Paid upfront 2500.

Off to the room, very old rooms and the open tub and shower in one area and a small bed at the other end. She put the tub for filling and wen to get the liquids and soaps. In about 10 mins she was back and then we were fully naked. She had a firm ass, by looks she looked in 20's but I asked her, she was 32. But great smile and attitude. She was friendly and chatting, english was poor but was trying to explain me about the place and stufff. She gave me a good scrub and rub in the bath tub and washed we and my willy, which was by now was hard as a rock. She was joking and playing with it. Then she threw the soapy solution on the mat on the floor to make it slippery and told me to lye on that once I was on that, she poured more soapy solution on to me and then started to slide up and down her tiny body against mine. It felt great and she then started kissing all over my chest and gave a BBBJ and asked me to turn over. Then slided her ass against mine an her tits rubbing my ass. After a while she slides her legs between mine and her body was rubbing my dick.

She turn me over and teased my dick and gave BBBJ and HJ to finish me off.

After this she gave me a wash in the tub and gave towel to dy myself. After we both mover to the small bed and then she starte to massage me and started chatting up and bitching about the mamasan and said she was a bad one. And one of the guys at the bar was part owners. And just told about where she was from in Thailand. And I am starting to get horny again and she notices that and she teases me. And says lets puk (fcuk). She give a BBBJ for few mins and then covers my dick, I turn her around and start to fcuk her doggy style and she starts some fake moaning. Lolz! She was enjoying though, but just too much moaning. Then we switched position, she was on top of me and riding me like crazy. And I shot. And in few mins, I decided to leave and tipped her and left the place.

Overall an ok experience. Not that great as I was expecting. ! Especially the choice of girls and the mamasan attitude was very bad.

The MP girl.

Overall looks. 6.5.

Service. 7.

Attitude- 7. 5

[NikCool10]

last month had been to addicts massage. a new one i came across, just next to snow white mp, as there were some girls outside calling over, i thought would check it out. went inside the establishment looks sort of new from inside. at the reception was the lady mamasan and a room opposite where all the girls were sitting. the lady mamasan was good to talk to and was showing all the prices written on a menu card. i took special oil massage 2100 (inclusive of fs). and it was time to choose the girl.

there is sofa kept in the lobby and all the girls are called out. there were about 12 girls at the moment (this was around evening 6 pm).

all the girls were were wearing a uniform sorts, i dunno if it was the special for that day or its their usual dress code. it was like an airline staff dress-up. i selected a girl name yuri, she seemed to be the best out of what was available. she has a nice firm ass and tits and she gave me good eye contact, smiling, so i got some good vibes. i am just hoping she is not the starfish types.

she got me some water and took me upstairs. the rooms are small with a small bed and a cubicle to take bath. one downside more is that the doors have a glass on them and anyone can peep into it, its like i think for them to not overshoot the time or some signal from mamasan that the time is up. anyways!

we started taking shower and she was scrubing me. talking a bit, but she gave me a mechanical bbbj, it wasnt great. and i was just playing with tits and seemed like she was not very comfy with my fingers running up her pussy, (i am already wondering this might not be a good experience).

after this we are dry and on the bed and she is massaging my chest and reaches for my dick stroking it. there was hardly any massage. anyways, no complains (i am thinking lets get down to business). she says fcuk? i said yeh. i started playing with her tits and sucking them and she covers my willey and i take her in the missionary style and very mechanical moans. in gave a good pounding and she was holding tight on to me. (i was wondering am i too rough or she is enjoying ). anyways. i finish up and she cleans me up and we are back on to the massage. i tried to make some conversation. but she could hardly communicate and just the basic things like whats your name and where are you from. just some information exchange. (also they are worried that we do not complain to mamasan).

i flip around and she massages my back and legs. though it wasn't a good massage, but anyways. i was a bit tired walking out in the heat and it was a good time to relax and after about 30 mins or so. i get horny again and want to play with her pussy. i start to run my fingers and she is a bit hesitant. wtf. anyways. i say lets fcuk. then she covers my dick and i say turn around and i start pounding her from behind in dogy. she was saying something in thai, so i stopped for a bit and was about to pull out, but then she then holds me tight and thrusts her body, i believe she was ok with it. so i continued for a while and shot out.

i was getting bored of this mechanical thing and dint want to stay more even though time was not up. so i said i have to go and tipped her and left.

overall not that great considering the regular mps such as mango, snow whites, etc.

the girl.

looks. 6.5.

service- 6.

attitude- 5

[GooberMonger]

A picture is worth a thousand words. Love my LBFMs.

Cheers

[Rjsss212]

To be honest, it's cause I've gotten enough shit from people on here saying pics were taken from amateur pages or they do take and claim as their own. U might not be someone to do so, but trust me, there are those who don't actually venture yet post fantasies online as FR.

Plus, is it that bad that I want to stamp each pic with watermarks?Sounds like you know what you're doing. Enjoy.

[Ehunter]

Luckely I know the shortcut from Grand President to Beergarden, BG, (Soi 11 to Soi 7) and so I went.
There is a driveway next to the pizza place across from the GP, it will take you through a couple of parking lots. That should get you there.Since I wandered aimlessly with these instructions, allow me to correct them.

It is the alleyway right at the Park hotel, about 100m in the direction of Suk from that pizza place.

[FruitNinja]

If you track WH's posts it's clear that he has some issue with the Dr. BJ's establishments and continually posts negatively about any and all things related to DR. BJ. It also appears that he has never been a paying customer of said establishments, so it leads one to wonder just what is his problem. You'll see that most of his posts have been deleted by the Admin as being argumentative. I expect that I am speaking for the majority of members of this board when I write that he has no credibility with us.

C4TI was at both of the Dr's venues and had a very nice time. I think this guy is full of it and has a hard on for the good Dr.

[Lotus303]

I was at both of the Dr's venues and had a very nice time. I think this guy is full of it and has a hard on for the good Dr.I disagree, WH is a monger like everyone else. He has valid points, again like everyone else. This is a place to share good and bad with others. So if people don't like a particular place so be it.

Always wondered what you would put on a Work Permit for managing a BJ bar. A few other bar owners in Soi 4 have just been caught (stickmans web page). Knock knock

[GooberMonger]

Been reading old post and maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen the Thermae mentioned. Been around for over 10 years and seems to be getting some fresh blood pumped into the place.

I hear everyone talkin about going to Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza, but no one has stopped by The Thermae, which from what I've experienced the last couple days is worth a look. Tons of freelacers lined up right around the whole bar. Full of 7s and a few 8s in the bunch. All over 18 they have a cop working inside, so no worries, can't say the same for other places.

Girls are wanting 2K to 2. 5k LT, but I've been hanging out around the place for many years and after closing everyone party and eats on the street I've even got a couple no charge just need a bed for the night and had a great time. They said no sex and I said ok, well it wasn't 30 sec. Before one of them had my cock in her hand.

Anyway to get back to the place a lot of Japanese Mongers were in there; I was watching outside and they were looking at maps and GPS to find the place, but I think that's what is attracting some lookers because the girls like the Japanese guys small dicks and big wallets or so the girls have told me.

Anyway for anyone that doesn't know about the place or it has been off your radar for some time check it out; it's beside The Sofitel Hotel in the basement of the The Ruamchitt Hotel 199 Sukhumvit Soi 15. Very handy if your staying at The Ruamchitt Hotel. 1200B for an old room and 1600B for a renovated room.

Anyway the Thermae is worth a look fellow mongers, for cheap drinks and there were over 100 freelacers in there last night.

I'm going back tonight had good luck last night so why not, good GFE and I didn't have to drop over 3000B like at Cowboy or Nana, where I've spent closer to 6000B most nights for a looker with drinks etc, but poor GFE. They're cuties and they know it, a real let down.

Cheers

[Old New Guy]

Always wondered what you would put on a Work Permit for managing a BJ bar. A few other bar owners in Soi 4 have just been caught (stickmans web page). Knock knockWhat you put is irrlevant. You can be for example, a "premises manager". They have been caught because they had no Work Permit, or were doings tasks not allowed to foreigners (and these are very many). This latter is can be arranged to be ignored by the police, the first much less.

[Old New Guy]

some might say you should have gone back to get your bt2000 and report her attempted theft, not me. you did the right thing. if you had returned to bar and caused her great loss of face, as it would be, she might have invented a claim of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) etc and then you might have had to spend valuable hours that you will never get back again, at a police station etc. you might even have to bribe the girl and police to drop the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charge, maybe bt10, 000 lol.sorry, but that's bs. going to the bar is exactly what he should have done, because even if they (bar owner, mamasan) may seem oblivious to complains, be reassured they take things in perspective. you will find that since loss of face is such a big matter for thais, a 'normal' thai thinks twice before doing something that may cause that to happen, so justice would have been served, in a way. and fortunately the cops here are not know to take seriously fake [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) claims, and not even shake foreigners by taking an occasional side with petty thieves, simply because that could do them more harm than good. thailand can be corrupt and dangerous, but is not some country in africa or latin america.

[DRRonin]

The inside baseball story on bargirls.

Just anecdotal evidence. LOL.

Two friends share apt. One very pretty and young, works Rainbow 4 and does ok as far as I can see. The other one, whom I've never seen, works at Sharks in Soi Cowboy. Why. Because apparently she has stretch marks, ain't no girl with stretch mark going to make it at Rainbow 4. Guys don't go there and pay 2000+ for stretch marks. LOL.

Moral of story- I really do think girls know what they are worth. They not accepting 1000 baht because you so nice and hansum and can give them multiple orgasms. LOL.Eh? I have seen some ghastly women in RB4 who clearly have had babies. Walked in the other night and walked out again because there was nothing but hiefers in the front of both stages. Maybe it's the lighting that is different. I once partook from the upstairs Mandarin and back in the room with the lights on I saw stretch marks galore that had been completely hidden by the reddish flashing lights they have. But I agree with the fact that most girls learn quickly where they stand on the baht money train. In some ways it is a perfect model of supply and demand and these girls get it without an MBA. If those chunky girls that I saw in RB4 are getting 2, 000 baht, the world has truly gone sex mad!

[Sxxxx]

Sorry, but that's BS. You will find that since loss of face is such a big matter for Thais, a 'normal' Thai thinks twice before doing something that may cause that to happen,Sorry but thats my opinion. You can call it what you like, but its my opinion.

A normal Thai you say. Prostitutes are not normal Thais and red light district bars are not normal either.

Things can happen. Skogis did right, put it down to experience, moved on, and enjoyed the night. You'd be back there at the bar arguing the toss between girl and mamasan, screwing up your night, all for Baht2000 on vacation. Now that is BS, LOL.

End of subject for me.

[Scorchin1470]

If those chunky girls that I saw in RB4 are getting 2, 000 baht, the world has truly gone sex mad!No. The world has moved on and the days of $10 working girls has passed. There is such a thing as inflation and the Thai girls don't worry about exchange rates merely that what cost them.

Baht 1,000 fifteen years ago now costs them Baht 2,000. Market forces, dear boy.

[Gen X Baer]

First time visiting Annie's and the directions provided on forum is great.

Easiest is just head to Nana Plaza and keep walking down the road. Eventually you'll see a sign (if Nana Plaza is on your left) on the right hand side of the street,"Annie's DO & DO."

Take that alleyway and keep walking to the far end of the street until you see the famous sign and head up stairs.

It was pretty funny as the moment I walked in, mamasan basically pushed me towards the fishbowl and said,"girl love you long time, shower, bath, bubbly, suck suck, and sex. All 2, 500BHT" without taking a moment to breathe. I just chuckled and told her I was looking for #24. She wasn't there (most of the girls on the website or that are worth arrive past 17:00PM it seems). I then mentioned I was looking for a GFE girl. She spoke into the mirophone and roughly said,"girl who can suck dick for long time and kiss alot!" Then those who did stood up and those who didn't just stayed still. I asked her for PSE then. She had no idea what that meant. Then I asked if anyone was A+ level, she informed me no girl did it at Annie's (really?)

I didn't want to wait so I asked the girls to line up again. #35 appealed. A bit short. Face is decent (not pretty, nor beautiful, more of cute). Body. She is small in height about 5'4 perhaps, and has a caring attitude. Went ahead and bought her a drink as I wanted to set the social mood and help ease the new meeting. She got a beer, I got a Cola and we both walked into RM#10. All the basics inside.

We talked and giggled for a while. Apparently the mamasan and girls share news as she knew I was waiting on #24 in the start. She told me that #24 was really tall and cute, so alot of gentleman push to see her and is highly favored. So gentleman, if you're into looks then #24 is for you, I suppose.

#35 is a playful one. Though her english is not perfect, she really tried to communicate and make the session fun and inspiring. I told her I wanted to have a relaxing yet fun time, and she took charge of making that happen.

Soapy was first and she did the basics. She did spend a little extra time rubbing down on my shoulder and back as I had told her that I wanted to ease some tension. It was nice to see she paid attention to what I was saying. Then flipped me around and BBBJ. Have to admit, she was a trooper. I snuck a finger into her as well as shocker in the rear. She took it like a champ and kept at it whilst moaning everytime I went in deeper (probably from the pain. But she did a good job pulling it off like it was pleasuring her). Popped one there.

Into the bathtub and she gave me a relaxing rub down. Once showered off, we moved onto the bed and she provided a oily massage paying attention to all muscle areas. Then BBBJ again to get LB hard and on came the condom. Cowboy, spoon, missionary, doggy, flat doggy, and COB.

Though she wasn't exactly a wild crazy experience, #35 provided exactly what I needed and wanted. Thus a 9 for her on that.

Drinks: 250BHT (had three drinks). Don't know how that adds up

Session: 2, 500BHT.

Total Damage: 2, 750BHT.

Service Level of #35:9.

Face: 7 (cute face. Not sexy, pretty, or beautiful).

Body Type: small breasts, nice round butt, and thin body.

[Gen X Baer]

The pleasure in the meeting experience was mutual. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation comparing notes not only on the scene in Bangkok but different aspects about SE Asia in general. While you are here please feel free to pop in, in fact I will be going to Cowboy on Saturday night with a friend so if you would like to join us give me a call. The number of my business cell is on the web site. Just one question. The latest pic's you posted, are those breasts real or enhanced? As I have stated on here before my preference is for small pert breasts but those looked very alluring indeed. Harold, not including the girls face is called dignity, give it a try some time mate.

Regards,

BJDr. Sorry for the late response. Had to catch up on some business. I actually do have some time tonight so I'll be sure to drop by later on in the evening or give you a ring.

In regards to the latest pic, they were sadly enhanced. Though I'm not one to complain, as you already know my preference is the exact opposite to pettite. LOL!

[Western787]

In some ways it is a perfect model of supply and demand and these girls get it without an MBA. If those chunky girls that I saw in RB4 are getting 2, 000 baht, the world has truly gone sex mad!The "madness" created is all about artificially reducing supply. To date, Bangkok has stayed ahead of the curve but you're seeing the beginnings of western concentrated ballbusting feminist influences more and more in regard to this issue.

The feminists in the west, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton being the most powerful, are attempting to keep the worldwide (age 18 and over) WG supply down, the intention being to reduce P4P supply to such an extent that essentially only types like her and her husband's very wealthy pals can play the game, for example with mistress arrangements, which are impossible to touch under any legal restrictions.

Yes, while they will never be completely successful, the impacts are already being seen worldwide. While its being done under the ginned up hysteria (and often made up statistics) and guise of stopping alleged wide spread "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)", the larger purpose is to turn males into enuchs with women taking more and more control over men. Already in the Phillipines which just last month passed a new very powerful "Expanded anti trafficking" law' to placate demands by the USA, the mere presence of a "fish bowl" is now deemed proof of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), while meanwhile the USA Dept of State has the ballbusters working full time now to make sure Rangoon never becomes another Bangkok.

[Western787]

Been reading old post and maybe I just missed it, but I haven't seen the Thermae mentioned. Been around for over 10 years and seems to be getting some fresh blood pumped into the place.

I hear everyone talkin about going to Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza, but no one has stopped by The Thermae, which from what I've experienced the last couple days is worth a look. Tons of freelacers lined up right around the whole bar. Full of 7s and a few 8s in the bunch. All over 18 they have a cop working inside, so no worries, can't say the same for other places.

Girls are wanting 2K to 2. 5k LT, but I've been hanging out around the place for many years and after closing everyone party and eats on the street I've even got a couple no charge just need a bed for the night and had a great time. They said no sex and I said ok, well it wasn't 30 sec. Before one of them had my cock in her hand.

Anyway to get back to the place a lot of Japanese Mongers were in there; I was watching outside and they were looking at maps and GPS to find the place, but I think that's what is attracting some lookers because the girls like the Japanese guys small dicks and big wallets or so the girls have told me.

Anyway for anyone that doesn't know about the place or it has been off your radar for some time check it out; it's beside The Sofitel Hotel in the basement of the The Ruamchitt Hotel 199 Sukhumvit Soi 15. Very handy if your staying at The Ruamchitt Hotel. 1200B for an old room and 1600B for a renovated room.

Anyway the Thermae is worth a look fellow mongers, for cheap drinks and there were over 100 freelacers in there last night.

I'm going back tonight had good luck last night so why not, good GFE and I didn't have to drop over 3000B like at Cowboy or Nana, where I've spent closer to 6000B most nights for a looker with drinks etc, but poor GFE. They're cuties and they know it, a real let down.

CheersThe situation at Thermae has been discussed in detail recently by many parties. The problem pointed out is that the hotties are more and more completely ignoring Farangs, at ANY cost.

Are you saying there is now a surplus of hotties that exceeds the number of Japanese willing to overpay? Perhaps the exchange rate (yen freefall vs the baht) is finally impacting things.

[FruitNinja]

I disagree, WH is a monger like everyone else. He has valid points, again like everyone else. This is a place to share good and bad with others. So if people don't like a particular place so be it.

Always wondered what you would put on a Work Permit for managing a BJ bar. A few other bar owners in Soi 4 have just been caught (stickmans web page). Knock knockI tried both venues and had no issue. What do you mean "been caught?" Didn't see anything on stickmans. Link?

[GooberMonger]

The situation at Thermae has been discussed in detail recently by many parties. The problem pointed out is that the hotties are more and more completely ignoring Farangs, at ANY cost.

Are you saying there is now a surplus of hotties that exceeds the number of Japanese willing to overpay? Perhaps the exchange rate (yen freefall vs the baht) is finally impacting things.Yes, the girl where out numbering the guys 2:1 when I was in there, might have been an off night, but the last couple nights a lot of girls didn't have a date at the end of the evening.

As we know things can change from week to week, but I think it might be worth a stop and see if your passing by.

Sorry I was looking for posts on the Thermae, guess I just didn't look back far enough, but I got 100% two nights in a row. 2K Looks a 7 body about the same GFE could have been a little better, Thai girl seem to be losing that loving feeling. Getting like the Vietnamese in and out. Just pay me, don't know if they don't want the company or are trying to grab another customer before the suns up.

Anyway got a real cutie, little spinner out of Cowboy bar a few nights ago, but performance was about a 5 if that, would have been more enjoyable to HJ, COF and watch her do a dance for me and strike a pose. Looks were a solid 8 though, but I'd prefer a 6 with a GFE of 8.

As far as the Thermae we all don't seem to have the same luck at the same places, but somebody else have a look and see what you think. I don't know business seems to be slow everywhere I've been this week. At Soi Cowboy at 10:00pm there was still a good selection. Maybe I just got a lucky week, because a couple months ago you had to grab somethink quick if you wanted a looker.

Cheers

[Jp Slicky]

I am a white american. I am more to the liking of FLs than bar fine since I control the gold.

Sure there are plenty of Jappers that go there but pale face has just a good a chance of walking out of there with a nice looking lady as the Japper. I did and I do not consider myself good looking either. I look for the ones not dressed to kill. If their attire seems out of place with the so called sexy look, then I am on them.

When I was there in Late December 2012, there was at least 100 ladys inside looking to get laid and paid at the same time. This was a Tuesday night too.

I drift between there and Beer Garden. Even at Beer Garden, the quality is there although there are some who should consider retirement

[Aibolit]

I am a white american. I am more to the liking of FLs than bar fine since I control the gold.

Sure there are plenty of Jappers that go there but pale face has just a good a chance of walking out of there with a nice looking lady as the Japper. I did and I do not consider myself good looking either. I look for the ones not dressed to kill. If their attire seems out of place with the so called sexy look, then I am on them.

When I was there in Late December 2012, there was at least 100 ladys inside looking to get laid and paid at the same time. This was a Tuesday night too.

I drift between there and Beer Garden. Even at Beer Garden, the quality is there although there are some who should consider retirementJP. Thank you for the valuable insight. When one should show up, in your opinion, to witness the best selection of "lookers"?

Thanks! A

[Pointy Stick]

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.for 700 bht at sol you have the option of getting blown in a seedy bathroom or at the bar next to some fat dude (sorry nickf). although they have some real talent there.

for 800 bht at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (imho) it with an untalented farm girl straight off the bus from isaan.

if anybody has had the pleasure of ee (reviewed recently) at dr bj's then the 300 bht extra or 9usd is well worth paying. if you're complaining about chump change after spending possibly a thousand dollars fling to los then you should review your priorities in life.

[DRRonin]

No. The world has moved on and the days of $10 working girls has passed. There is such a thing as inflation and the Thai girls don't worry about exchange rates merely that what cost them.

Baht 1, 000 fifteen years ago now costs them Baht 2, 000. Market forces, dear boy.You really don't have a clue as to what you are writing about do you? 2, 000 baht is still a very large amount of money in this country. Especially for an hours work. The minimum wage which a large pct of women are making in Thailand is 300 baht a day. That is for working 12 hours a day in a factory or at your friendly 7-11 or a fast food joint. The jump in girl prices has little to do with inflation. It is supply and demand. Supply has been diminishing and demand has been growing thus the ability for girls to raise their prices and get away with it. But even so, what makes no sense to me is a go-go in which all the girls are asking for the same amount of money because the quality differential is enormous. Are you going to pay the same amount for an older chunky girl and a beauty? Probably not. Market forces, dear boy.

[Franciscass]

JP. Thank you for the valuable insight. When one should show up, in your opinion, to witness the best selection of "lookers"?

Thanks! AIMHO Bangkok Beat Soi7/1 is a good hunting ground for lookers. The suds aren't the cheapest but if you stay the course I. E. Up to 3 in the morning you have a good chance of meeting some decent talent. Gulliver's is cheap and if you play pool a fun place to hang out. I have met really nice (as in not hard core) girls there who are out on that particular night because they are short of funds. They are usually better educated and it can sometimes feel more akin to being on a date than in a P4P situation. There are always the up market discos Spasso and Mixx, expensive but you find more sophisticated working ladies there who know how to charge for their time. FL'S can be found all over Bangkok in pubs, clubs, on the street, even shops and department stores. If you are courteous and not too shy about approaching somebody you fancy go for it, you will never know until you try.

[Arjun31]

But wasn't she quite large compared to her photos?Oh yeah compared to the photos posted on the website. She was large. But her service made up for that.

[Arjun31]

where do i find [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) i can't find it on golgle maps?

and whats the different from a normal bar or dr bj?try adelphi suites bangkok on google maps its pretty near to this hotel.

[Scorchin1470]

You really don't have a clue as to what you are writing about do you? 2, 000 baht is still a very large amount of money in this country. Especially for an hours work. The minimum wage which a large pct of women are making in Thailand is 300 baht a day. That is for working 12 hours a day in a factory or at your friendly 7-11 or a fast food joint. The jump in girl prices has little to do with inflation. It is supply and demand. Supply has been diminishing and demand has been growing thus the ability for girls to raise their prices and get away with it. But even so, what makes no sense to me is a go-go in which all the girls are asking for the same amount of money because the quality differential is enormous. Are you going to pay the same amount for an older chunky girl and a beauty? Probably not. Market forces, dear boy.The world has changed. 2,000 baht is not a large sum to a WG whose expenses and expectations have risen markedly over the last 20 years.

You continue to perpetrate the fallacy that equating a WGs earnings to those of a factory worker is a justification for 2,000 baht being a "very large amount of money." In the UK factory girls earn £10 / hour / working girls £150. Was ever thus.

I do not know where there is the idea that supply is diminishing. Numbers and proof?

As to go-go girls charging the same price: It is called human nature. No WG is going to admit that she went for less than any other WG. What WG is going to admit she is less attractive. Fact of life.

[Syzygies]

The situation at Thermae has been discussed in detail recently by many parties. The problem pointed out is that the hotties are more and more completely ignoring Farangs, at ANY cost.

Are you saying there is now a surplus of hotties that exceeds the number of Japanese willing to overpay? Perhaps the exchange rate (yen freefall vs the baht) is finally impacting things.There are some Farangs a nice girl would not want at any cost. Some girls are picky. Not all girls are looking for Japan only. If she likes you and your money is good there is always a chance. I certainly found girls keen on me. However I am very picky too.

[Goatscrot]

You really don't have a clue as to what you are writing about do you? 2, 000 baht is still a very large amount of money in this country. Especially for an hours work. The minimum wage which a large pct of women are making in Thailand is 300 baht a day. That is for working 12 hours a day in a factory or at your friendly 7-11 or a fast food joint. The jump in girl prices has little to do with inflation. It is supply and demand. Supply has been diminishing and demand has been growing thus the ability for girls to raise their prices and get away with it. But even so, what makes no sense to me is a go-go in which all the girls are asking for the same amount of money because the quality differential is enormous. Are you going to pay the same amount for an older chunky girl and a beauty? Probably not. Market forces, dear boy.Here here. 2k baht is a lot of money in Thailand for 30 min work; which seems to be the average ST for many gals these days. Considering college grads make between 12-25k a month at their first jobs. 2k for 30 min is a lot of money.

[Marcos]

I tried both venues and had no issue. What do you mean "been caught?" Didn't see anything on stickmans. Link?In this week column. Nothing strange really, I don't know why we're talking about this.


The work permit-less Englishman who managed one of the big beer bars at the top of Soi Nana was visited by the boys in brown and told to stop working immediately. The police were relaxed about it, giving him the option to stop there and then for which that would be the end of it, with no problems. The question that is now being asked is whether the other foreign bar managers in Soi Nana will be so lucky and get the same warning.

[Marcos]

No. The world has moved on and the days of $10 working girls has passed. There is such a thing as inflation and the Thai girls don't worry about exchange rates merely that what cost them.

Baht 1, 000 fifteen years ago now costs them Baht 2, 000. Market forces, dear boy.
You really don't have a clue as to what you are writing about do you? 2, 000 baht is still a very large amount of money in this country. Especially for an hours work. The minimum wage which a large pct of women are making in Thailand is 300 baht a day. That is for working 12 hours a day in a factory or at your friendly 7-11 or a fast food joint. The jump in girl prices has little to do with inflation. It is supply and demand. Supply has been diminishing and demand has been growing thus the ability for girls to raise their prices and get away with it. But even so, what makes no sense to me is a go-go in which all the girls are asking for the same amount of money because the quality differential is enormous. Are you going to pay the same amount for an older chunky girl and a beauty? Probably not. Market forces, dear boy.Afraid you both are missing the point. That is not if inflation has caused prices to go up (certainly true) , or if 2K is "a lot of money for 30 minutes of work" (that it is, and is not, at the same time). We can talk about this until we're blue in the face and would not make a difference. Think a Thai lady trying to understand and discuss why her sponsor has stopped sending money. That is what one of us becomes if unable to move on.

Fact: these are now the asking prices, and in most cases girls are sticking to their guns. Fair, unfair, smart of stupid doesn't change a thing, if you have a way to lessen you mongering costs, use it, otherwise bite the bullet (that does NOT include paying 15K to a Spasso lady, please don't), or stay home.

But get off the squirrel wheel because it doesn't bring you anywhere.

[GooberMonger]

I am a white american. I am more to the liking of FLs than bar fine since I control the gold.

Sure there are plenty of Jappers that go there but pale face has just a good a chance of walking out of there with a nice looking lady as the Japper. I did and I do not consider myself good looking either. I look for the ones not dressed to kill. If their attire seems out of place with the so called sexy look, then I am on them.

When I was there in Late December 2012, there was at least 100 ladys inside looking to get laid and paid at the same time. This was a Tuesday night too.

I drift between there and Beer Garden. Even at Beer Garden, the quality is there although there are some who should consider retirementSame as I posted and now it's March, and still at least 100 girls in there. I got some nice looking girls out of there too and GFE not too bad.

So like I said it might be worth a look if your passing by. I paid 2K LT and if you want to do some bargaining I think you could get the price down, but I wanted them so I paid it. It was early in the evening too though. Definitely get a deal at 1 am.

Cheers

[Dr BJ]

I do not think it is the time of year, since this has never been a slow period on my past visits. I believe it's a anomaly. Dr. BJ lives in BKK, so he could have some insight.

AT2There are fewer tourists in Bangkok generally compared to one year ago. Beer bar owners have told me their numbers are significantly less than they were 12 months ago.

Regards,

BJ

[Scorchin1470]

you are my new god!

so you do see it makes no sense for a 3rd or 4th tier girl to ask for same amount as superstar (who ask 2500 and get it- no problem).

it really makes one wonder if the ugly girls realize this or not. , i have the solution for all girl who complain no customer-lower your freaking price. you will get more customers, maybe not many (you still unattractive) but more. lol.so you think your so-clled 'ugly' girl is going to admit to others that she is 'ugly' and will therefore charge less. no way any girl is going to break ranks in any given environment. wgs have their pride. no way is any wg going to walk out in front of here peers and admit / let them find out that she went for less than the going rate. that is life.

maybe she will move to a less pretentious place and charge less.

[Zauberfee]

to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Ok, not exactly where no farang has gone before, but at least farangs are definately a minority at Sutthisan nightlife area. Didn't matter to me I'd like to get to know to this part of Bangkok's nightlife.

So I took a taxi from Ratchadamri Road to Sutthisan Road. It took 15 minutes and 90 THB, but not only after I had been rejected by two drivers and one driver who wanted to get 200 THB flat.

It was 9:45 pm when I arrived but even there were plenty of taxis coming and going and guys getting on and off the taxis and then disappearing quickly. The roads in front of the bars were rather uncrowded especially compared to NEP or Soi Cowboy.

So I walked up and down a little bit to get to know the area and the first difference to other gog areas that came up was that noone was approaching me to get into their bar. They all looked at me but didn't say anything. Finally I came back to T-DED 99, got a big "hello my friend" from the guy at the door and I went in.

Was kinda dark inside, a huge hall with 2 stages and a lot of seats and tables in between, like at a diner's. So he guided me to table next to the stage, I sat down and ordered a beer. As written before a huge bottle with extra ice. Unfortunately then I made a mistake, when he asked if Iwanted to get a girl. I reply no, no yet. So he went away and was never seen again, as well as I wasn't approached by one of the numerous mamasans and papasans. From time to time a waitress showed up to ill up my glass. It wasn't all too bad, because I'd enjoy my time to checking to scene. On the stages there 2 girls dancing at the same time, with a change of one girl any 5 to 10 minutes. Actually I read somewhere here that at the bars at Sutthisan the girls were really dancing instead of the Bangkok shuffle, but from what I could see there was not much difference in the dancing style.

The girls themself were rather young and rather sexy, maybe not really top acts in Baccara or Rainbow 4 but really cute and sexy. Actually I ddin't see a girl that was older then late 20's or chubby. The average look of the girls at T-DED99 was much better than at NEP or Soi Cowboy. The all wore bikins and high boots, but no nudity the time I was there. I didn't count the girls but I guess at least 50 to 60 girls in the bar. The girls that didn't dance nor sit with a guest were sitting together either chatting or playing with their mobile phone.

If you want to talk to one the girls you tell the mamasan / papasan who you want to talk or let mamasan / papasan make a proposal. Then the girl comes, makes a wai, the guy can take a look and say it's ok or not. If it's ok the girl sits down, if not she walks away and mamasan / papasans gets a new girl.

It seemed, but I might be wrong about it, that first of all it was all about socializing with drinking together, chatting together and having a good time. Sanuk, sanuk. And just after that then there might be some sexual background.

Finally I realized that on that given night I wouldn't get a girl so I went off.

On the other side of the street I was already greeted by a rather young and kind of good looking mamasan from Harlem Nights who waved me in. Harlem Nights in much smaller with less girls. Maybe about 25 girls. The "quality" of the girls is a little bit worse than T-DED99, but not by too much. At Harlem nights you have big stage for dancing and a couple of tables and seats in front of it. So I got my seat, oredered a beer and when mamasan asked me if I wanted to have a girl I was smarter then the last time and said yes. Lessons learned. So she quickly came back with a tall girl, quite good looking, mid 20's. But obvioulsy mamasan didn't do her due dilligence, because the girl sat down next to me but didn't look at me, didn't say anything, just telling me her name, as I asked for it. Then she disappeared for dancing. And never came bar. In any other bar this is rather unimaginable, but here I kind of expected something like that. Nothing to let me down, just dealing with it.

Mamasan quickly came back with another girl. Not a good looking one (some might say ugly) , like the first one, but obviously eager to join farang. Greeted me with a wai, had a big smile on her face and sat next to me. She was 29 years old from Chiang Rai, rather small size and rather chubby (some might say fat) , her english was next to nothing but she was very talkative. Even my thai isn't too good, it was still good enough to have good time chatting with her. From time to time mamasan had to come to translate but we mostly got it done ourselves.

After a while mamasan approached me again and asked if I want to take out the girl, she'd love to go with me. 1.500 THB shorttime. 2.000 THB longtime. Well she wasn't really my type of girl, but I wasn't in the mood to go elsewhere to pickup someone. So I made the longtime deal, even I had in my mind that I problably would let her go early. When mamasan told her about the deal she was very happy, picked her stuff and off we went.

I will spare you what happened at the hotel, it was a complete desaster. Obviously farangs's requirements of sexual services are much different than from thai man. I sat her free after 30 minutes and a faked orgasm from me. 'Nough said.

Resume: I was ignored, I was rejected and I had bad sex with a fat and ugly girl. But still I loved the experience. The atmosphere is completey different than at the bars at NEP or Soi Cowboy. It was relaxed and hasslefree with lots of young and sexy girls. And if you can speak decent thai you can probably have a great time even if you are farang.

Will I be back? Yes, probably or maybe. I don't know yet.

[LoverboyJerico]

I have been reading some of the Thailand Forums on this site as well as all the FKK Forums. Haven't travelled to both the places. IF someone can please let me know what is better Thailand vs germany for mongering. Purely mongering. And Whats makes it the best and why? Thanks

[AussieDoug]

A picture is worth a thousand words. Love my LBFMs.

CheersWould you care to share from where and maybe a number or name? TIA.

[AussieDoug]

I have been reading some of the Thailand Forums on this site as well as all the FKK Forums. Haven't travelled to both the places. IF someone can please let me know what is better Thailand vs germany for mongering. Purely mongering. And Whats makes it the best and why? ThanksIt boils down to cost, if you are living in Europe you have to add in an airfare as opposed to petrol for the car. The cost of everything in Thailand is less, much less than in Germany, and there are willing young ladies in their thousands happy to put out for you. There are few places for bareback orgies in Thailand, but plenty of girls willing to go bareback with you, but inflicting pain is not part of the thai psyche, it all has to be fun for everyone, so if kinky is what you seek, better stay with Germany. Good hotels are cheap in Thailand also, but the longer you stay the more days you spread the airfare over.

[Wolvenvacht]

I will spare you what happened at the hotel, it was a complete desaster. Obviously farangs's requirements of sexual services are much different than from thai man. I sat her free after 30 minutes and a faked orgasm from me. 'Nough said.Please explain some more. I think that part is the most important. In what way is there a difference?

[Marcos]

Please explain some more. I think that part is the most important. In what way is there a difference?May I try. The Thai idea of mongering, as shared by people of most other Asian countries as well, is basically of two types.

The quick way in a cheap brothel, doing the basic act in a disgusting room. No communication and no fun are needed or expected, for this purpose they will take Laos ladies or anything else available.

The classy, expensive way, starting in a Coyote or Karaoke club, dragging it on the sofa for hours, bragging and talking about nothing. Keep in mind to get into the panties of most attractive girls, repeated visits are needed, with the associated expenses. Just like some Westerns, actually Thai think that spending a lot of money in these places is a status symbol and expression of masculine power.

In both of the above types, typically a Thai monger is not much worried about quality or duration of the experience. He's a lot more worried about, in rough order: the girl looks and age, to look good with his friends, to not catch any disease, being able to return home with some credible excuse, and that the girl won't give any trouble later on. Actually quite often (as well Westerners do) he is happy enough to be in the room alone with the girl, drunkly sharing confession about his sentimental life, and receiving "woman's advice".

Compare this to all the stuff that "we" want instead. The GFE, the PSE, the SGE (Sponsored Girl Experience) and you will see the difference, and why is that going to places that cater to Thai men is very likely to leave "us" unsatisfied.

[Zauberfee]

Thanks Marcos, can't add anything else

[AssLover945]

It boils down to cost, if you are living in Europe you have to add in an airfare as opposed to petrol for the car. The cost of everything in Thailand is less, much less than in Germany, and there are willing young ladies in their thousands happy to put out for you. There are few places for bareback orgies in Thailand, but plenty of girls willing to go bareback with you, but inflicting pain is not part of the thai psyche, it all has to be fun for everyone, so if kinky is what you seek, better stay with Germany. Good hotels are cheap in Thailand also, but the longer you stay the more days you spread the airfare over.Seriously? I am not being sarcastic or anything, I really would love to know. Can you please pm me, if you are unwilling to share here?

[George300]

Going to be in BKK in a few days and will be checking out nana plaza, I was told to goto rainbow 4 for hot chicks, is this true? And which bars in nana are ladyboy bars so I can avoid those. What other gogos in there do yall recommend?

[Luvpuss]

I have been reading some of the Thailand Forums on this site as well as all the FKK Forums. Haven't travelled to both the places. IF someone can please let me know what is better Thailand vs germany for mongering. Purely mongering. And Whats makes it the best and why? ThanksThailand is much better for pure mongering.

Why? Because there are so many options in a smaller local.

In BKK you can walk from Nana to Soi Cowboy and get laid 100's of times.

Gogo's, SW's, FL's, massage parlors and soapies.

With many bars inbetween.

Germany really is not even close.

PS: The bratwurst and pretzels are much better in Germany.

[Luvpuss]

There are fewer tourists in Bangkok generally compared to one year ago. Beer bar owners have told me their numbers are significantly less than they were 12 months ago.

Regards,

BJNear your shops and surrounding Suk area?

Probably right.

But, If you go to Kohsan Road, Patpong, and some of the cheaper areas, I think it is busier than ever.

[Zauberfee]

Germany really is not even close.As a german guy who always flies to Thailand for mongering I agree and disagree at the same time.

As usual in life it all depends on what you are looking for. If a high number of shot per shot with as many girls as possible is what you are looking for, then there are plenty of good optios all over germany, but especially the area between Dortmund and Köln in Nordrhein-Westfalen.

Just go to a Partytreff like McSex (http://www.mc-sex.de/home) in Hamm or LaVita (http://www.partytreff-lavita.de/) in Osnabrück where you have flat rate sex the hole day for about 120 € or 4. 800 THB, including drinks and snacks / food. Or try Pauschalclub Dortmund (http://www.pauschalclub.de/dortmund/home) or Pauschalclub Bochum (http://www.pauschalclub.de/bochum) where you pay 150 € or 6. 000 THB and can fuck 12 hours until closure. BBBJ, CIM and even anal inculded (not any girls, but at least some). Also including drinks and food and they regularly have shows, parties and even gang bang parties.

If barebacking is your thing then go to FKK Arabella (http://fkk-arabella.com/) in Bochum-Wattenscheid, FKK Grimbergsanua (http://www.grimbergsauna.com/1.htm) in Gelsenkrichen, Villa Venus (http://www.fkk-venus.com/site/1.html) in Duisburg or FKK Alina (http://www.fkk-alina.com/) in Dorsten. They all have the same system: get a 3 shot ticket for about 100 € to 120 € or 4. 000 THB to 4. 800 THB and you can fuck 3 times. All girls (mostly from bulgaria or romania) do bareback, all do BBBJ (even in publc areas) , all do DFK, some do CIM and some do anal. Also including snacks and drinks.

If you can come many times per days, if you want to fuck different girls and if you want to minimize the costs per shot, then germany might be your option.

I still prefer quality in service and looks above quantity, so my final destination will still be Thailand, but each to his own

[TConor]

As a german guy who always flies to Thailand for mongering I agree and disagree at the same time.

As usual in life it all depends on what you are looking for. If a high number of shot per shot with as many girls as possible is what you are looking for, then there are plenty of good optios all over germany, but especially the area between Dortmund and Köln in Nordrhein-Westfalen.

Just go to a Partytreff like McSex (

http://www.mc-sex.de/home

) in Hamm or LaVita (

http://www.partytreff-lavita.de/

) in Osnabrück where you have flat rate sex the hole day for about 120 € or 4. 800 THB, including drinks and snacks / food. Or try Pauschalclub Dortmund (

http://www.pauschalclub.de/dortmund/home

) or Pauschalclub Bochum (

http://www.pauschalclub.de/bochum

) where you pay 150 € or 6. 000 THB and can fuck 12 hours until closure. BBBJ, CIM and even anal inculded (not any girls, but at least some). Also including drinks and food and they regularly have shows, parties and even gang bang parties.

If barebacking is your thing then go to FKK Arabella (

http://fkk-arabella.com/

) in Bochum-Wattenscheid, FKK Grimbergsanua (

http://www.grimbergsauna.com/1.htm

) in Gelsenkrichen, Villa Venus (

http://www.fkk-venus.com/site/1.html

) in Duisburg or FKK Alina (

http://www.fkk-alina.com/

) in Dorsten. They all have the same system: get a 3 shot ticket for about 100 € to 120 € or 4. 000 THB to 4. 800 THB and you can fuck 3 times. All girls (mostly from bulgaria or romania) do bareback, all do BBBJ (even in publc areas) , all do DFK, some do CIM and some do anal. Also including snacks and drinks.

If you can come many times per days, if you want to fuck different girls and if you want to minimize the costs per shot, then germany might be your option.

I still prefer quality in service and looks above quantity, so my final destination will still be Thailand, but each to his ownI went to your suggested sits and mostly saw nothing, and I'll be kind, great. And bareback with some of those scags. OMG. Ticket to a short life.

[Tookay]

I think you meant to say Saphan Khwai NOT Sutthisan. LOL!Actually, the bars are in Sutthisan Road, while the area is called Saphan Kwai, after the nearby intersection at Phaholyothin.

[Goatscrot]

There are fewer tourists in Bangkok generally compared to one year ago. Beer bar owners have told me their numbers are significantly less than they were 12 months ago.

Regards,

BJDr BJ, there are more tourists than ever in BKK for this time of year, but they are not the type of tourists that utilize P4P. I think this is the trend with bus loads of mainland Chinese and Indians. Hotels are my Soi are full of the former and the later, and that is odd for March.

[Franciscass]

There are fewer tourists in Bangkok generally compared to one year ago. Beer bar owners have told me their numbers are significantly less than they were 12 months ago.

Regards,

BJTourist numbers to Thailand has been on a steady increase with over 19 million in 2011, 22 million in 2012 and 24. 5 expected in 2013. Airport arrival stats for January and Febuary indicate this is roughly on target. The comment from the doc refers to Bangkok which is more difficult to measure but a conversation I had recently with the owner of the Hillary Group which operates numerous bars and clubs in the Lower Sukhumvit area told me that sales wwere up on a year ago. Perhaps he was referring to traffic to his own corner of the sand box.

[Franciscass]

for 700 bht at sol you have the option of getting blown in a seedy bathroom or at the bar next to some fat dude (sorry nickf). although they have some real talent there.

for 800 bht at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (imho) it with an untalented farm girl straight off the bus from isaan.

if anybody has had the pleasure of ee (reviewed recently) at dr bj's then the 300 bht extra or 9usd is well worth paying. if you're complaining about chump change after spending possibly a thousand dollars fling to los then you should review your priorities in life.we complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. the doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at nana plaza. it's simply a fact that before dr bj opened bj bars were charging 700 for service. ([CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s since upped their price to 800 although i hear 700 is still possible.). he introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at bj bars everywhere. i live here, know pricing, enjoy the mongering mostly freelancers and oilies and consider 300 baht a tip at a good restaurant. i suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.

[Francesco24]

a question about thermae, what time girls start arriving there? is it a location for day time pick up too or only night time?

btw i am planning to visit dr bj shop soon and i'll post my experience. so far my visits at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol weren't very good.

[Pointy Stick]

we complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. the doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at nana plaza. it's simply a fact that before dr bj opened bj bars were charging 700 for service. ([CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s since upped their price to 800 although i hear 700 is still possible.). he introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at bj bars everywhere. i live here, know pricing, enjoy the mongering mostly freelancers and oilies and consider 300 baht a tip at a good restaurant. i suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.i like the idea of having tiered pricing in bj bar. given the abysmal looking talent at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol there is definite need to attract lookers to this industry niche. it's a solution that works for everyone from impoverished english teachers who can't afford the extra 300 bht but still need to get some action have some to those who wish to pay for quality suction. just because you have to eat spam doesn't mean i should do too. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and sol haven't closed up shop and nobody is forcing you to pay 1000 bht for a bj so i don't think your complaints are valid. it's good to see someone who is prepared to innovate.

to be honest i don't give a shit about pricing anymore for locals. i'm not going to passup a hottie while on holiday here just because she's asking more than the aforementioned impoverished can afford. if that's an issue then it time to get another better paying job or maybe stop your high-rolling tipping and use the money for something more useful (like quality bbbj's maybe?).

actually in a way its good that prices are going up. sure its bad for mongers like myself but it indicates that thailand is becoming wealthier which is a good thing for any society.

[Dr BJ]

We complain a lot on this forum about ongoing increases for services and drinks. The doc himself got agitated recently at such goings on at Nana Plaza.That was a sarcastic reply to Harold complaining about a 10 baht increase in the price of drinks. I'm very surprised the humour was lost on you.


He introduced the childish ruse of having a few zombies on staff called nurses at 700 and charged a 1000 for so called consultants who were no better than the usual line up of unattractive women that one finds at BJ bars everywhere."Childish ruse" seems to be working well. The Salon is very busy every day of the week. Just out of curiosity what is it that motivates you to produce spiteful rants against everything I say or do? This has been your MO since the Salon opened. What you have yet to figure out is that attacking me is not going to damage my Businesses. People on here are generally more intelligent than you are giving them due credit for. All you do is raise my profile and spark interest in my businesses, which translates into more customers for which I must thank you. Please keep spewing your unfounded bile.

I did have a giggle at your previous post saying the girls at SOL were much more attractive than the ladies who work in the Salon.


I live here,More's the pity.


I suggest you find another cause to champion, world peace comes to mind and let doc speak for himself.I don't think he is championing a cause. Rather he is highlighting your [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor logic which seems to be based on some odd dislike you have for me. So are you asking members not to comment on a post regarding me or my businesses, regardless of how spiteful or idiotic it is?

Regards,

BJ

[GooberMonger]

Would you care to share from where and maybe a number or name? TIA.Sorry mate never thought about it because she was a FL, but I could have got her number. Never boughtered because going home soon.

Anyway Noy at the Thermae, sorry no number, fun girl worth the 2K not bad GFE.

My bad. I'm new to posting my mongering or sharing. Well not really, but stopped posting about 7 or so years ago and just started again recently.

Cheers,

[Dr BJ]

it's a matter of debate whether you speak for the majority. it does seem that when a member posts a less than flattering review of the doc's operation whether on the quality of service or the quality of the providers thay are immediaedly pounced on as having some conspiratorial hidden agenda. of late the scot himself has adopted a new ' i'm everybody's best new friend' persona in an attempt to encourage more traffic to his shops. and leaves the attacks on his detractors to his "surrogates".

my issues with him is that he uses the forum more than anybody else to promote his business. that's ok. and some will like his place while others won't. those that don't have the right to post their experience without being ridiculed but he cannot accept the criticism and previously would personalise his response in a demeaning tone. now he leaves that to some members who seem to have some kind of personal relationship with him. if you use the forum to promote youself like he does, you have to live with the consequences, take the good with the not so good.

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.

also the oily which is in fact what nuru gel is is staffed by the least attractive crew in town in that p4p space but he charges as much if not more than shops like snow white, angle, ez etc where the talent is infinitely better. that said i do accept his places are clean and the service may be acceptable some of the time.

the purpose of the forum is to share and inform so that especially new arrivals are aware of the scene here. dr bj has his place in the scheme of things but what he provides most particularly in the quality of the girls is below average. this is simply a fact of life known to all who have visited soi7/1 and passed by his places. most long term residents familiar with both quality and pricing would i feel agree with this assessment.there are only 3 sad cases on this forum who personally attack me or my businesses. you, wolfhound and some guy called lotus 303, who seems to have disappeared recently. as for people who criticize being "pounced on" this is a figment of your imagination. i use this forum to promote my businesses? really? when the salon first opened i raised peoples awareness that it had newly opened, in other words i passed on useful information about a new venue. since then the only reference i have made to my businesses is to respond to a question or to make a correction when something has been wrongly stated. if it bothers you (and it obviously does because you mentioned it here) report me to the administrator and see what he has to say.

the vast majority of my posts have nothing to do with either of my businesses. i have no problem writing positive posts even when it concerns a competitor. i went to som's haven and gave a very objective opinion which was that the experience, venue and lady were very good. how many of your field reports would you consider to be helpful or informative?

i have lost count of the times i have said not everyone will enjoy their experience at a particular venue. people are indeed free to say they did not have an enjoyable time at one of my places. personal relationships? the first bm who introduced himself to me was back in december, that was just over a year after the salon opened. for some reason in the last two months more members have popped in for a chat and i have hit the town with some of them. going out to go-go bars hardly constitutes a personal relationship does it?

i use this forum to promote myself? i post about my paid for sexual experiences in an honest way on a forum for people to post about their paid for sexual experiences. can you give me specific examples of self promotion. every field report on this forum has similarities in some ways to mine. do you take issue with every fr and consider them to be self promoting? if this is the case why do you bother reading or posting at all. or perhaps it is only what i post that seems to irk you.

you prefer lollita's, lollipop or star of light due to looks and service, that is perfectly fine with me. we offer a different environment to these places. some people have come to the salon and told me they didn't enjoy the experience because the place is too clean, fine. the world would be a strange place if we were all attracted to the same type of lady.

the worst looking collection of ladies for a single venue in the whole of the bangkok sex industry work at the nuru place. now, the vast majority of people on this forum are pretty savvy and quickly lose all respect for people who continuously make ridiculous statements like you do. they see through you for the spiteful attacks you make. nothing you ever write about my businesses is even remotely objective, which is the reason very few people on here take you seriously.

the quality of my ladies is below average? and you tout this as a fact of life? i really thought you were much more intelligent than that, seems i was very mistaken. the quality of ladies in any establishment is subjective and a matter of personal opinion, not a fact. the height of mount everest, the distance from earth to the moon, the speed of light are all facts. cambodian ladies are more beautiful than laos ladies is an opinion.

you "feel" most long term residents would agree with your distorted assessment of my businesses based on price and quality. you "feel" which means you don't know which means you are guessing. seems very strange to me. i think it would be better if you speak for yourself and leave long term residents or anyone else to speak for themselves also.

this whole pointless post came about because someone called out another poster who contributed nothing to this forum and of his 20 or so posts, the ones which were not removed by an admin, were pathetic attacks directed at me. i am still trying to work out your motivation.

you correctly stated that the purpose of this forum is to share and inform. please explain how your posts do either of these things? here is an example.

on sunday march 10 i went out with two forum members, skogis and used day. skogis does not do the go-go scene and asked me to show him around. first off we went to lollipop in nana. i was determined i was there purely as a guide and would not take a lady that night, i did buy a kamagra gel just in case as it is better to have a kamagra and not use it than to need one and not have it. next up we went to spanky's, i know the american guy who owns it and luckily he was there so we chatted for a few minutes. skogis and used day were impressed with the talent on show to the extent they bar fined a lady each. i was just about to suggest moving to angelwitch when this very good looking lady appeared on the dance area.

needless to say the remains of my resolve not to take a lady quickly evaporated. every physical attribute she had was exactly as i like it to be. we did make it to angelwitch and i had a chat with dave the rave who runs a few places in nana. very good selection of ladies on show and i made a mental note for a later date. dave treated me to a shot of alcoholic ribena, new experience for me and would recommend trying it.

quality of service from the lovely lady was very good, more gfe than pse which is exactly as i like it. had to give a few pointers on her bbbj technique which she responded to admirably. without any prompting she did the tongue tickle under the scrotum thing which was particularly good. she is very small in height, has a killer smile, is 24 and a body which fits my desires exactly.

name: withheld.

face: 8. 5/10.

tits: c cup. 9/10.

body: 9. 5/10 only imo.

ass: 9/10.

bbbj: 7. 5/10. had better and had much worse.

gfe: 8. 5/10.

attitude: 9/10.

enthusiasm: 9/10. personally i think these girls put in more effort when they know you live here as they are keen to snare a repeat customer for as long as possible.

wir: already have done.

cost: bf 600, drinks around 1, 500, 2.000 st which quickly became 3, 000 lt. total damage: 5, 100 and well worth it

some fine ladies on display at spanky's, i would recommend anyone to go in and check the place out.

regards.

bj

[Luvpuss]

[QUOTE=Zauberfee; 1396628]As a german guy who always flies to Thailand for mongering I agree and disagree at the same time.

If barebacking is your thing then go to FKK Arabella (

http://fkk-arabella.com/

) in Bochum-Wattenscheid, FKK Grimbergsanua (

http://www.grimbergsauna.com/1.htm

) in Gelsenkrichen, Villa Venus (

http://www.fkk-venus.com/site/1.html

) in Duisburg or FKK Alina (

http://www.fkk-alina.com/

) in Dorsten. They all have the same system: get a 3 shot ticket for about 100 € to 120 € or 4. 000 THB to 4. 800 THB and you can fuck 3 times. All girls (mostly from bulgaria or romania) do bareback, all do BBBJ (even in publc areas) , all do DFK, some do CIM and some do anal. Also including snacks and drinks.

That is good info.

I had to laugh. Including snacks and drinks. Pretty funny.

[Franciscass]

there are only 3 sad cases on this forum who personally attack me or my businesses. you, wolfhound and some guy called lotus 303, who seems to have disappeared recently. as for people who criticize being "pounced on" this is a figment of your imagination. i use this forum to promote my businesses? really? when the salon first opened i raised peoples awareness that it had newly opened, in other words i passed on useful information about a new venue. since then the only reference i have made to my businesses is to respond to a question or to make a correction when something has been wrongly stated. if it bothers you (and it obviously does because you mentioned it here) report me to the administrator and see what he has to say.

the vast majority of my posts have nothing to do with either of my businesses. i have no problem writing positive posts even when it concerns a competitor. i went to som's haven and gave a very objective opinion which was that the experience, venue and lady were very good. how many of your field reports would you consider to be helpful or informative?

i have lost count of the times i have said not everyone will enjoy their experience at a particular venue. people are indeed free to say they did not have an enjoyable time at one of my places. personal relationships? the first bm who introduced himself to me was back in december, that was just over a year after the salon opened. for some reason in the last two months more members have popped in for a chat and i have hit the town with some of them. going out to go-go bars hardly constitutes a personal relationship does it?

i use this forum to promote myself? i post about my paid for sexual experiences in an honest way on a forum for people to post about their paid for sexual experiences. can you give me specific examples of self promotion. every field report on this forum has similarities in some ways to mine. do you take issue with every fr and consider them to be self promoting? if this is the case why do you bother reading or posting at all. or perhaps it is only what i post that seems to irk you.

you prefer lollita's, lollipop or star of light due to looks and service, that is perfectly fine with me. we offer a different environment to these places. some people have come to the salon and told me they didn't enjoy the experience because the place is too clean, fine. the world would be a strange place if we were all attracted to the same type of lady.

the worst looking collection of ladies for a single venue in the whole of the bangkok sex industry work at the nuru place. now, the vast majority of people on this forum are pretty savvy and quickly lose all respect for people who continuously make ridiculous statements like you do. they see through you for the spiteful attacks you make. nothing you ever write about my businesses is even remotely objective, which is the reason very few people on here take you seriously.

the quality of my ladies is below average? and you tout this as a fact of life? i really thought you were much more intelligent than that, seems i was very mistaken. the quality of ladies in any establishment is subjective and a matter of personal opinion, not a fact. the height of mount everest, the distance from earth to the moon, the speed of light are all facts. cambodian ladies are more beautiful than laos ladies is an opinion.

you "feel" most long term residents would agree with your distorted assessment of my businesses based on price and quality. you "feel" which means you don't know which means you are guessing. seems very strange to me. i think it would be better if you speak for yourself and leave long term residents or anyone else to speak for themselves also.

this whole pointless post came about because someone called out another poster who contributed nothing to this forum and of his 20 or so posts, the ones which were not removed by an admin, were pathetic attacks directed at me. i am still trying to work out

bjhooray you're back on the attack doc. i thought for a while there we had lost you, that you had gone through some kind of metamorphosis and changed into mr. nice guy only interested in showing newcomers the sights and sounds and engaging in your spare time in such lofty intellectual conversations such as how the geopolitical situation in asean effects the bj bar business in soi / 7 come 2015. however it didn't take long for mr. hyde to resurface but you know what i always preferred him to dr. jekyll. the only piece of advice i would offer if i may is to work on your paranoia doc, it really is not healthy for a man of your fragile disposition. i am not out to get you doc, just simply to point out the anomalies and inconsistencies in your methods of doing business so that readers can make up their own minds. as you say i actually help you so why so mean to me doc. ? lol

[Giotto]

it's a matter of debate whether you speak for the majority. it does seem that when a member posts a less than flattering review of the doc's operation whether on the quality of service or the quality of the providers thay are immediaedly pounced on as having some conspiratorial hidden agenda. of late the scot himself has adopted a new ' i'm everybody's best new friend' persona in an attempt to encourage more traffic to his shops. and leaves the attacks on his detractors to his "surrogates".franciscass,

thanks for giving dr. bj the forum and marketing tools he wants and he deserves. nothing is better for him than reports like yours, to which he can respond and even optimize his marketing strategy. believe me - i know what i am talking about. are you on his payroll :) ?

as for me. dr. bj is not "my best new friend" yet, but now i also decided to give him a try. i like his approach. makes absolutely sense to me, nothing wrong with that at all.


another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.ohh, we have to pay thb 100. 300 more than before? inflation caused by dr. bj? but. we can still go to sol or lollipop for 700 or 800. we don't need to go to dr. bj! what is your problem, man? hopefully the prices will rise more, that decreases the number of customers, and one day i will have all first class providers (if there are some) for me alone :):):) !


the purpose of the forum is to share and inform so that especially new arrivals are aware of the scene here. dr bj has his place in the scheme of things but what he provides most particularly in the quality of the girls is below average. this is simply a fact of life known to all who have visited soi7/1 and passed by his places. most long term residents familiar with both quality and pricing would i feel agree with this assessment.i definitely disagree. i walk around in 7/1, 8 and patpong. i see the talent of the blow job bars, and i don't see big differences. beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and i am also not really sure that beauty is the most important issue in this kind of business. mouth related skills might be.

dr. bj, be prepared, i will visit your shop soon ! recommendation from franciscass :) !


giotto
http://www.livingstoneslodge.com

[Giotto]

Tourist numbers to Thailand has been on a steady increase with over 19 million in 2011, 22 million in 2012 and 24. 5 expected in 2013. Airport arrival stats for January and Febuary indicate this is roughly on target. The comment from the doc refers to Bangkok which is more difficult to measure but a conversation I had recently with the owner of the Hillary Group which operates numerous bars and clubs in the Lower Sukhumvit area told me that sales wwere up on a year ago. Perhaps he was referring to traffic to his own corner of the sand box.I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Nevertheless. There are much more Asian customers in Bangkok right now, Mainland Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc. Etc. There are much less Europeans in Bangkok this year, most likely because the financial crisis now hits Europe. Australians are here though, and Americans are returning step by step.

Besides the slow death of Soi 33 I also hear nothing positive from the bar owners in Cowboy, lower Sukhumvit and Soi 22. Business is in general down compared to last year, the lower number of farang tourist spend less, and the Asians usually do not visit the same areas. They also spend less.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Of course - if Dr. BJ increases the price of THB 1,200.00 for a blow job session (or even to THB 1,500.00) they will all come to work for Dr. BJ - for sure :) !

Franciscass, I am not sure whether you really live in the same city as I do.


Giotto
http://www.livingstoneslodge.com

[Paul Kausch]

For some time Stickman has written about complaints from bar managers regarding the difficulty bars have attracting and retaining girls and that the demand for coyote dancers outstrips supply. Similarly he has chronicled the decline on Soi 33. One of my previous post also detailed that birth rates in Thailand have been declining for decades. No doubt this is having a significant impact on the number of young ladies seeking employment in the sex industry; and of course Thailand's strong economy is a factor.

Many sources state tourism is booming in Thailand, and Bangkok in particular. I mentioned in previous posts that international tourism data ranks Bangkok as the third most visited destination in the world after London and Paris. The following tables are national visitor data provided by the Department of Tourism data from the Government of Thailand.

Total visitors.

Year change.

2012 22, 303, 065 +15. 98 %

2011 19, 230, 470 +20. 67 %

2010 15, 936, 400 +12. 63 %

2009 14, 149, 841. 2.98 %

2008 14, 584, 220 +0. 83 %

2007 14, 464, 228 +4. 65 %

2006 13, 821, 802 +20. 01 %

2005 11, 516, 936. 1.15%

Visitors by country or territory.

Rank Country or territory 2012.

1 China 2, 789, 345.

2 Malaysia 2, 560, 963.

3 Japan 1, 371, 253.

4 Russia 1, 317, 387.

5 South Korea 1, 169, 131.

6 India 1, 015, 865.

7 Laos 951, 090.

8 Australia 930, 599.

9 United Kingdom 870, 164.

10 Singapore 821, 056.

11 United States 767, 420.

12 Germany 681, 566.

13 Vietnam 617, 804.

14 France 572, 996.

15 Hong Kong 472, 699.

16 Indonesia 448, 748.

17 Cambodia 424, 766.

18 Taiwan 394, 475.

19 Sweden 350, 565.

20 Philippines 288, 889.

It is notable that visitors from China, Japan and South Korea total 5, 329, 863, while visitors from Australia, United Kingdom, United States, Germany and France total 3, 822, 745; and if Russian visitors are added to the visitors from the preceding five countries the total only reaches 5, 140, 132, which is still less than the total visitors from the three East Asian countries. Most visitors from Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia and Philippines probably visit Thailand for reason other than tourism per se; though young women from these countries may be seeking employment in the sex industry. On my last trip I had sex with a girl from a Nana Plaza bar whom I am convinced was undocumented and from Cambodia.

Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and the oily / soapy massage parlors are not the primary attractions for most tourists; and assuming the number of mongers from East Asia is proportional to the mongers from the other six countries listed above over half of the mongers would be East Asians. M personal observations are consistent with these data. On my most recent trip in December I was struck by the large number of tourists who had nothing to do with the mongering scene and the large number of East Asians at Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy.

Gentlemen, the times they are a changing.

[Oidar]

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[Franciscass]

I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Nevertheless. There are much more Asian customers in Bangkok right now, Mainland Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc. Etc. There are much less Europeans in Bangkok this year, most likely because the financial crisis now hits Europe. Australians are here though, and Americans are returning step by step.

Besides the slow death of Soi 33 I also hear nothing positive from the bar owners in Cowboy, lower Sukhumvit and Soi 22. Business is in general down compared to last year, the lower number of farang tourist spend less, and the Asians usually do not visit the same areas. They also spend less.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Of course. If Dr. BJ increases the price of THB 1, 200. 00 for a blow job session (or even to THB 1, 500. 00) they will all come to work for Dr. BJ. For sure. !

Franciscass, I am not sure whether you really live in the same city as I do.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstoneslodge.comHi Giotto,

I bow to your superior knowledge of what's happening on the bars / girls scene. All I mentioned was that the lady who runs the Hillary group told me same store sales were up for her group. Definitely 33 is very very slow and unless there is a huge upgrade along with a large infusion of cash and talent the future is far from bright.

Good luck.

[JerseyShoreSun]

GS,

It is actually cheaper or on par to fly to BKK on a low cost airline from any major metro india city like Mumbai, delhi or bengaluru than to fly within these cities. As the indian economy has boomed over the last several years, the increasing numbers of the middle class are taking to the air to discover south east asia. Open any leading indian newspaper and you will see dozens of tour companies advertising package deals that include BKK and Pattaya for like a 5 day trip for the equivalent of $500 USD or 15, 000 baht. This includes airfare, accomodation on a twin share basis and transportation and visits to certain tourist attractions.

In my last three trips to BKK I've seen a very different demographic of indian tourist discovering this great city. Saw a lot of young couples partying together at places like QBar and some of the rooftop venues around the sukhumvit tourist areas. Same was the trend at some of the late night discos. It is common knowledge here that for a good party at the more trendy and upmarket non P4P venues, it ends up being a much cheaper night out in BKK than in Mumbai or delhi.

The world is getting smaller every year and I totally agree that each year the percentage of non P4P indians travelling to Thailand as tourists will continue to increase IMHO.


Dr BJ, there are more tourists than ever in BKK for this time of year, but they are not the type of tourists that utilize P4P. I think this is the trend with bus loads of mainland Chinese and Indians. Hotels are my Soi are full of the former and the later, and that is odd for March.

[Ehunter]

What happened to Gringo? This is another self serving load of horseshit posted by mr blow job under a different pseudonym.Hey, are you always this paranoid?

There is a lot of quality content around here and you're just dragging things down.

I intend to post my experience on the Dr BJ venue. The review will be positive and I don't need you dragging my stuff through your own manure pile. So you stay away from my material and we will get along just fine.

Agreed?

[Goatscrot]

GS,

It is actually cheaper or on par to fly to BKK on a low cost airline from any major metro india city like Mumbai, delhi or bengaluru than to fly within these cities. As the indian economy has boomed over the last several years, the increasing numbers of the middle class are taking to the air to discover south east asia. Open any leading indian newspaper and you will see dozens of tour companies advertising package deals that include BKK and Pattaya for like a 5 day trip for the equivalent of $500 USD or 15, 000 baht. This includes airfare, accomodation on a twin share basis and transportation and visits to certain tourist attractions.

In my last three trips to BKK I've seen a very different demographic of indian tourist discovering this great city. Saw a lot of young couples partying together at places like QBar and some of the rooftop venues around the sukhumvit tourist areas. Same was the trend at some of the late night discos. It is common knowledge here that for a good party at the more trendy and upmarket non P4P venues, it ends up being a much cheaper night out in BKK than in Mumbai or delhi.

The world is getting smaller every year and I totally agree that each year the percentage of non P4P indians travelling to Thailand as tourists will continue to increase IMHO.I have heard that from folks I know that live in Mumbai and Delhi. The number of Asian, Middle Eastern, and Russian tourists will continue to skyrocket and the number of Western tourist will continue to decline, at least for the short or mid-term. A statement on where the money is these days.

[Goatscrot]

I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Nevertheless. There are much more Asian customers in Bangkok right now, Mainland Chinese, Indians, Koreans, Japanese etc. Etc. There are much less Europeans in Bangkok this year, most likely because the financial crisis now hits Europe. Australians are here though, and Americans are returning step by step.

Besides the slow death of Soi 33 I also hear nothing positive from the bar owners in Cowboy, lower Sukhumvit and Soi 22. Business is in general down compared to last year, the lower number of farang tourist spend less, and the Asians usually do not visit the same areas. They also spend less.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Of course. If Dr. BJ increases the price of THB 1, 200. 00 for a blow job session (or even to THB 1, 500. 00) they will all come to work for Dr. BJ. For sure. !

Franciscass, I am not sure whether you really live in the same city as I do.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstoneslodge.comGiotto, that is exactly what I am seeing. Truth be told that is the state of the P4P industry in much of the West; you have the high end and you have the low end, and very little in between. Thai gals know their "market value" now. It is no longer a secret and over the next 5 yrs as hordes of mainland Chinese (where women are in short supply) there will even fewer gals around. Sad but true. Good time to have a girlfriend.

I have also noticed a lot more "tourist" couples and such in Cowboy. Come see the place, one drink, and gone. It has become a bit of a Disneyland as opposed to the hangout it was when I moved here.

[BionicMan]

I have also noticed a lot more "tourist" couples and such in Cowboy. Come see the place, one drink, and gone. It has become a bit of a Disneyland as opposed to the hangout it was when I moved here.Probably a new generation of people. 10-20 years ago a RLD was for men's only from a society POV. Today girls with open mind, not all, are not bothered by the scene and walk through it with their boyfriends. Some couple might be open for a try (was next to nothing in the past) with a Thai girl. The Soi 4 bars around NEP have indeed more couples staying, drinking and watching the girls coming and going, hooking up, making deals. Observing also the humanity circulating around with street sellers, etc.

Isn't it what happened in AMS' RLD?

[Ehunter]

i actually arrived back from pattaya many days ago. since then my mongering activities have taken a hit due to a minor penis injury my last night pattaya. to summarize, it was a threesome and when moving from one girl to another one girl peeled the condom off me and her fingernail took minor divot of skin from the base of my penis. i never noticed it until a day later. i never felt anything different down there at all.

when i noticed the injury, i thought. well, i guess my mongering trip was over. maybe it is a good thing. i have been in the country with nothing buy girls on my mind. i have not seen a single sight the whole time and this being my first time in asia!

the next three days i was downloading tourist apps for my phone and spent some enjoyable days visiting the thai royal palace, river chao tour and what arunwat pho just to name a few. i walked my ass off and came across a lot of cool stuff. for anybody looking to get around the city (non-mongering stuff) i would highly recommend using the canal boat taxis.

the canal boat taxi i am writing about runs somewhat parallel to sukumwit. it starts within walking distance from the royal palace. the three times i used it, i was the only farang on it. i stumbled upon it when noticing a canal walking path. what a cool walkway path. two feet to the right and your in the drink, two feet to the left and you fall into peoples simple living shacks. so i an walking up the canal path and along comes a canal taxi hauling ass up the channel. the wake made from the taxi boats can rocket 7 feet into the air. there is no slow zone on the water from what i could tell.

so it looks like people use it to get to and from work or even minor shopping in some of the lesser districts. anyway, my first day i took a car-taxi from the palace back to nana and it cost 60baht and took for ever in traffic! the next day, i stumbled on the canal taxi and that took me all the way to nana for 14baht and it only took about 20 min. the experience has kind of an urban up-the-amazon feel to it. to see this link, fix the site name, compress out the spaces in the string and change out the v= to v=. really it is worth watching: youtubedotcom / watch? v= yxhqat0dzru

well, it has been three days of this civilian tour stuff. the good news is, junior is 100% all healed up! i have one last day of mongering before heading home!

[Seaham1900]

There are only 3 sad cases on this forum who personally attack me or my businesses.

BJI keep up with news on the forum do not post a lot but feel I have something to add to the discussion on Dr BJ's enterprise. I have visited his blow job bar, picked a consultant and paid my 1000 baht. When on the odd occasion I venture into a blow job bar I do not expect an attractive girl but somebody with good technique. She was far from attractive but she knew what she was doing and I left satisfied. However I will not be going back again. Two reasons. Firstly I didn't like the vibe in the place neither the lobby nor the room. There was no atmosphere such as you have in places like Star of Light in Patpong. It was clean but personally I feel a blow job bar needs a touch of seediness I. E dim lighting and slightly decrepit. Secondly and this has been mentioned elsewhere I don't need to pay a 1000 baht more like 700 for similar service in surroundings more to my liking. The forum seems to be divided between those that have issues with the owner and those who come to his rescue when he gets bad press. He does seem to get easily angered by posts not to his liking and most likely this will get his back up, Perhaps he feels that by insulting people who don't like his place they will not post negative reviews, but like it or lump this was my experience.

[Ehunter]

Originally Posted by Oidar [View Original Post]

What happened to Gringo? This is another self serving load of horseshit posted by mr blow job under a different pseudonym.
Hey, are you always this paranoid?

There is a lot of quality content around here and you're just dragging things down.

I intend to post my experience on the Dr BJ venue. The review will be positive and I don't need you dragging my stuff through your own manure pile. So you stay away from my material and we will get along just fine.

Agreed?Any by the way Franciscass, I am not sure what your problem is either. I have walked by the Dr BJ venues many times already and they seem to be doing a good business. Are you a nearby competitor? Then your criticisms would make sense. I assure you the Dr's businesses are not damaging the BJ scene as a whole as you so insinuate. So if you can't compete, Get the hell out. If you resent the extra $10 for better looking girls stay the hell away (your grading perspective is not shared by everyone here, including myself). If you want to keep your costs at $700, hire the nurse or go elsewhere. It is that simple. Isn't life too short to be spending your time on a such an ongoing vendetta against other peoples business?

So vote with your money and check your vitriol at the door please.

[Goatscrot]

Probably a new generation of people. 10-20 years ago a RLD was for men's only from a society POV. Today girls with open mind, not all, are not bothered by the scene and walk through it with their boyfriends. Some couple might be open for a try (was next to nothing in the past) with a Thai girl. The Soi 4 bars around NEP have indeed more couples staying, drinking and watching the girls coming and going, hooking up, making deals. Observing also the humanity circulating around with street sellers, etc.

Isn't it what happened in AMS' RLD?It did happen in AMS. I think some of it here has to do with Hangover II.

[Pablo]

Probably a new generation of people. 10-20 years ago a RLD was for men's only from a society POV. Today girls with open mind, not all, are not bothered by the scene and walk through it with their boyfriends. Some couple might be open for a try (was next to nothing in the past) with a Thai girl. The Soi 4 bars around NEP have indeed more couples staying, drinking and watching the girls coming and going, hooking up, making deals. Observing also the humanity circulating around with street sellers, etc.

Isn't it what happened in AMS' RLD?It's FAR FAR worse in Pattaya on Walking Street, which now in the early evening it's hard to even find a monger. The last few trips for me it's been overrun with Japanese and Korean tourist groups, mostly middle aged and older, men and women with their tour company name tags, led by their tour guides holding up the flags so they don't get lost. They are there to gawk at the goings on and snap their photos like we're all animals in the zoo. Last time I took to taking photos of them, not that they seemed to care. Also, many couples, young and old, that obviously are not there for what we are there for. And for what I thought RLDs existed for!

I see far less of this in Nana and Soi Cowboy, it's not even close. The few times I go to Patpong it's hard to guage because of the Night Market.

[Franciscass]

Any by the way Franciscass, I am not sure what your problem is either. I have walked by the Dr BJ venues many times already and they seem to be doing a good business. Are you a nearby competitor? Then your criticisms would make sense. I assure you the Dr's businesses are not damaging the BJ scene as a whole as you so insinuate. So if you can't compete, Get the hell out. If you resent the extra $10 for better looking girls stay the hell away (your grading perspective is not shared by everyone here, including myself). If you want to keep your costs at $700, hire the nurse or go elsewhere. It is that simple. Isn't life too short to be spending your time on a such an ongoing vendetta against other peoples business?

So vote with your money and check your vitriol at the door please.Another brainless doc surrogate who feels the need to weigh in with his inane point of view. It would be nice doc if just once one of your flunkies was at least literate.

[Nuru Guru]

another of my issues is that he essentially upped the price of a bj to 1000. ok ok i know i know the nurses are 700 but they are so obviously inferior in looks to the so called consultants that i would hazard a guess that most punters end up paying the 1000 when at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or sol or lollipop the same service with similar or superior quality would be 700 or 800.franciscass i'm sorry to communicate to you about the price of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. they increased it from 700 to 800 before dr bj salon even opened on soi 7/1. i'm sure of this.

[Duniawala]

GS,

It is actually cheaper or on par to fly to BKK on a low cost airline from any major metro india. The world is getting smaller every year and I totally agree that each year the percentage of non P4P indians travelling to Thailand as tourists will continue to increase IMHO.Very true in what you wrote. Unfortunately, the majority of Indians who come to LOS still have the low class mentality they were born and bred up with. Sometimes they are so disgusting in their behavior that I cringe to think I am of Indian descent. Yes, they may have money but have no class.

[Mr Gogo]

Very true in what you wrote. Unfortunately, the majority of Indians who come to LOS still have the low class mentality they were born and bred up with. Sometimes they are so disgusting in their behavior that I cringe to think I am of Indian descent. Yes, they may have money but have no class.A few girls that I picked up on beach road said they were prepared to turn me down because my brown skin made them believe I was Indian. I asked why? They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.

[Luvpuss]

One of the wonders of Bangkok. That patpong night market. I stroll thru there about twice a week. Is there enough sales to support all the vendors? They all sell the same same things! I don't see shoppers shopping like on sukhumvit.

As far as girls goes Patpong sucks. Any one have different opionion. I'm willing to listen. LOL.I do not partake in the Patpong Gogo's. I did hit up SOL and Kangeroo bar for BBBJ's and FS.

But I went into several Gogo's and they were packed. Many more customers than Nana in the Gogo's. Also, I was surprised by the quality. As good if not better than Nana the night I went and no shortage of girls.

I got the impression the place may be going through some sort of revival.

The MP girls were not that impressive in the area.

I made the mistake of going into a Fag massage. Their was a cute girl at the desk but saw all the gay boys walking and took off. Many of those places in patpong I guess.

[Goatscrot]

A few girls that I picked up on beach road said they were prepared to turn me down because my brown skin made them believe I was Indian. I asked why? They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.Starting to see the same behavior in Nana Parking Lot. Three or four Indian dudes surround one girl. Pretty awful.

[FreebieFan]

A few girls that I picked up on beach road said they were prepared to turn me down because my brown skin made them believe I was Indian. I asked why? They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.Last few BKK trips I've been in the usual Nana and Cowboy bars and quite common to see 4 guys and one girl having a LD with then. Equally, well know amongst the girls that if she goes back to the room with an indian fellow, he may have 3 brothers / cousins / friends all waiting in the room.

Try negotiating a business deal with an Indian company. The ceo, chairman, chairmans monther, brother cousin, etc will all be involved all aimed at wearing you down. Tried and tested technique.

[Franciscass]

I am not really sure whether I shall believe this numbers from the government agencies. I have my doubts.

Another problem is that nearly all bars and massage parlours have problems to recruit new girls. There is a massive shortage of girls. All bar owners with a business model that is based on girls / bar fines are complaining. In many gogo bars there are now coyote girls dancing, that are hired from specific recruitment agencies. Those girls dance, but they don't go with customers.

The higher quality girls have nearly disappeared from the well known farang-driven red light districts. Most of the girls that apply for jobs here at Livingstone's Lodge will NOT be hired. Because they simply don't fit in here. Behavior that disgusting, no style, it's unbelievable what's left on the market. The higher quality girls are now working in Japanese clubs (more money) and in the high end massage parlours of Rhatchadapisek and Phetchaburi Road. They charge THB 3, 500. 00. THB 7, 000. 00 per session.

Giotto.

http://www.livingstoneslodge.comAnother reason there seems to be fewer good looking providers around is that they are working abroad. I met a girl the other night in Bangkok Beat who had just returned from Singapore where she had made over 100, 000 the previous month, well that's what she told me. She was intelligent, elegantly dressed, early thirties, spoke fluent English and while not a raving beauty had that street smarts confidence that made her look attractive. She spends a month in Singapore on a tourist visa and works for an agency that can supply as many customers as she can handle. She told me her record was 8 in a single day. Her fee while in Bangkok was 3000 for ST (3 hours) or 5000 till 10 in the morning with as much sex as you wanted whatever way you wanted. I was tempted but passed as it all seemed a bit too business like but I had no doubt before the night was out she would find a punter.

[Tony Hoeprano]

One of the wonders of Bangkok. That patpong night market. I stroll thru there about twice a week. Is there enough sales to support all the vendors? They all sell the same same things! I don't see shoppers shopping like on sukhumvit.

As far as girls goes Patpong sucks. Any one have different opionion. I'm willing to listen. LOL.I'd agree Patpong sucks, I get tired of all the aggro ping pong ball touts. I usually tell them sorry, I don't know how to play ping pong, and I get this crazy look from them.

I wonder how all those mobile phone and mobile phone accessories shops at MBK survive. They all pretty much look the same to me! I remember when the Ipad Mini came out they were selling them for higher price then the Authorized stores were selling them just a few steps down the hallway LOL

[Hunky Don]

Last few BKK trips I've been in the usual Nana and Cowboy bars and quite common to see 4 guys and one girl having a LD with then. Equally, well know amongst the girls that if she goes back to the room with an indian fellow, he may have 3 brothers / cousins / friends all waiting in the room.

Try negotiating a business deal with an Indian company. The ceo, chairman, chairmans monther, brother cousin, etc will all be involved all aimed at wearing you down. Tried and tested technique.The problem with regards the Indian traveller is manifold. With increase in disposable incomes and travel costs to the LOS being so low, you have a large multitude of people landing up. Lack of self confidence (not to be confused with money) makes them move around in groups. Never have they seen so many WG and in the open (try getting to a WG in Mumbai-not only are they pricey but also show big time attitude) , that they have no idea how to act. Of course, this does not condone their public behavior, at times extremely obnoxious.

Having said that there are a good number of Indian punters whom I have met, who not only well mannered and classy, but also show and receive respect to one and all, including the WGs'. A must for getting any decent service.

Am not in agreement re: comment on negotiating business deals. I have seldom seem such a high level of business acumen as with many of the Indian companies.

[Oidar]

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[Lotus303]

franciscass i'm sorry to communicate to you about the price of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. they increased it from 700 to 800 before dr bj salon even opened on soi 7/1. i'm sure of this.wrong! [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) only increased the price last year to 800b. so guru i will 'communicate' to you. lol!

[Marcos]

The ongoing mood is right. Bangkok is not anymore what it was, and chances are it will never be again.

What a difference compared to just two years ago, when young, dressed up and sexy SWs were standing in hordes as one exited down the tollway to get to Nana. I went to the same place and there are only buses parked there now.

Or when I did go to Insanity with a lady from Pattaya, and it was easy to get the number of another beauty in three seconds then go dining the following day, the rest it did not happen but was not a matter of money or bad attitude, not at all. I did go yesterday and most girls are either plain ugly, or kinda hardcore, or not inviting, on top of that the male / female ratio is all wrong. The only good note, getting in from the restaurant works and saves one 140 B. On the 1st drink.

There, I picked a very average looking one for 1500, only to send her back home with 300 afters things started going downhill very quickly. Standard request is 2K, rendered performances is a bet.

Nana liquid was not any better. Bamboo is scaring from outside already. Fill here other FL places if you know.

Some of the girls sitting by Nana parking may look cute, but they come inexperienced and practical zero will to please. Letting language issue aside.

Then you can stroll Sukhumvit up and down all night but I unless you've got twisted tastes, there will be nothing palatable.

About bars, spa's and go-go's, to which normally I don't go, others have given us the lowdown already.

Which options are we left with? Make a move with the maid, or probably just getting deeper wallets.

[Dr BJ]

Firstly I didn't like the vibe in the place neither the lobby nor the room. There was no atmosphere such as you have in places like Star of Light in Patpong. It was clean but personally I feel a blow job bar needs a touch of seedinessI understand you have a prefrence for other venues. I posted this response on Monday 10 March.

You prefer Lollita's, lollipop or star of light due to looks and service, that is perfectly fine with me. We offer a different environment to these places. Some people have come to the Salon and told me they didn't enjoy the experience because the place is too clean, fine. The world would be a strange place if we were all attracted to the same type of lady.


Secondly and this has been mentioned elsewhere I don't need to pay a 1000 baht more like 700 for similar service in surroundings more to my liking.Several other board members have chipped in on this debate as well and I completely agree with their stance. If you don't want to pay 1,000 baht for a blow-job then don't, it's really that simple. Go somewhere that offer 700 baht blow-jobs in an environment more to your liking. I know of ultra seedy places in China town where you can pay 200 baht for FS. If it is purely a price orientated stance you have then I would advise going to places other than Sukhumvit which is far from the cheapest in town.


The forum seems to be divided between those that have issues with the owner and those who come to his rescue when he gets bad press. He does seem to get easily angered by posts not to his liking and most likely this will get his back up, Perhaps he feels that by insulting people who don't like his place they will not post negative reviews, but like it or lump this was my experience.Other board members are free to post what ever they want and I can assure everyone I have absolutely zero influence over any other board member, to believe otherwise is selling them short I think. To be honest I don't get easily angered by anything in life any more.

Allow me to make a distinction here. There have been posts by BM's who have visited one of my premises and not been completely satisfied. They have posted this in a very mature and objective way, I have complete respect for these people as they are upfront and honest. 100% customer satisfaction is next to imposible to achieve especially over a long period of time. In your own words "Perhaps he feels that by insulting people who don't like his place they will not post negative reviews". Please feel free to go through my posts and show me one instance where I have insulted anyone for a negative post concerning a visit to one of my premises. I freely admit I have hit back or rebuked spiteful attacks aimed at me personally and I believe I am perfectly entitled to do so. I hope you can see the stark distinction I am trying to demonstrate between personal attacks and less than flattering reviews about a visit to one of my venues. I don't think that this forum is intended for these type of vendetas.

Finally and on a more light hearted note someone actually PM'd me to ask if Franciscass was actually me using a different name. Again I would like to assure everyone the only name I use is Dr BJ.

Regards,

BJ

[Member #4387]

The ongoing mood is right. Bangkok is not anymore what it was, and chances are it will never be again.

What a difference compared to just two years ago, when young, dressed up and sexy SWs were standing in hordes as one exited down the tollway to get to Nana. I went to the same place and there are only buses parked there now.

Or when I did go to Insanity with a lady from Pattaya, and it was easy to get the number of another beauty in three seconds then go dining the following day, the rest it did not happen but was not a matter of money or bad attitude, not at all. I did go yesterday and most girls are either plain ugly, or kinda hardcore, or not inviting, on top of that the male / female ratio is all wrong. The only good note, getting in from the restaurant works and saves one 140 B. On the 1st drink.

There, I picked a very average looking one for 1500, only to send her back home with 300 afters things started going downhill very quickly. Standard request is 2K, rendered performances is a bet.

Nana liquid was not any better. Bamboo is scaring from outside already. Fill here other FL places if you know.

Some of the girls sitting by Nana parking may look cute, but they come inexperienced and practical zero will to please. Letting language issue aside.

Then you can stroll Sukhumvit up and down all night but I unless you've got twisted tastes, there will be nothing palatable.

About bars, spa's and go-go's, to which normally I don't go, others have given us the lowdown already.

Which options are we left with? Make a move with the maid, or probably just getting deeper wallets.It is obviously we live in different worlds when it comes to Bangkok and its freelancemarket. I have been rather active in this market the last 7-8 years, so naturaly I can not speak of how things were prior to this. I can also admit I have not been so much in the Nana parking but been in the area browsing and walking. My normal pickup places (Climax, CM2, Bangkok Beat, Thermae, Insomnia (infinity) , Mixx, Shock, Spasso, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Q-bar, Levels (rather new) and on rare occations RCA are and Route66 and so on. I have also sometimes (not so often) picked up girls from the streets but I have been around so I can spot them from a distance as well even if I don't pick them. I also like to add in almost 50% of my time spend in BKK I have a fairly number of regular girls I like to hang out and in with to add certain normality into my life. I am in BKK 10 to 15 times a year (avarage) so I would say I am in possition to atleast add my 2 cents when it comes to quote actual poster.

I have in all honesty not seen a dramatic change when it comes to number of ladies and beauty (and yes I am aware that beauty is in the eye of the beholder). Even prices haven't changed much in my listed places. There are no problem to meet girls ranging from 6 to 9 in these places. Prices may vary from from location to location but have been the same many years (I talk about girlprices).

So even if I never have seen the hordes of SW around Nana I still feel there are atleast the same ammount of girls to choose from in my type of mongering. Evenings in Soi 11 I also see a lot of street girls ready for pick up. You also have quite a lot of girls standing outside Thermae and I see some pick up girls every now and then walking from Soi 11 toward Soi 3 (odd number side). But this is not meant to argue your post just enlighten readers of my observations as I think things are not so negative. And Elena sitting outside Subway in Soi 7 will allways be around.

Ofcourse Thailand in the future will change and most likely to worse for us with untreatable mongerhabits. But so far still good.

I pay on avarage 3K for LT sessions exp from Spasso (4 to 6K LT). LT sessions are without timelimitations but will range from an allnighter until, in rare cases, the break of afternoon. ST sessions (and in my case mostly for daytime use) I pay 1 to 2K. Mostly picked up from Beergarden or Gullivers (late afternoon).

[Marcos]

Thanks Skogies, your help is appreciated . I'll check out the places you mentioned.

[Oidar]

It used to be that falangs who moved here had money. Old soldiers, government workers, big pensions, etc. Girls used to believe they could meet a nice guy. Move back home, and live the dream. Which is eating and texting.

Now the falangs that live here are lost souls. Crazy men with very few morals. Not here to raise a family, not here to make a great fortune, just here to raise fucking hell. Horny White Devils. That is why girlfriend effect is dying. They know you are not the one, they know you will probably never give them money again.

Just a few years ago I remember going to the nightclubs, and before the night was over a good looking girl would have her tongue in my mouth. And I would do nothing but walk around drunk in shorts and sandals. It is not like that now, and it never will be again.

[Global Surfer]

A far cry from what I saw 2 years ago. Entrance was BHT 250 on Sunday night with one drink free and at 10:30pm, I was the only customer. Even at midnight there were no more than 40/50 people with male to female ratio of 50/50. Both quality and quantity were seriously down but prices and arrogance shooting in the opposite direction. A slightly overweight 'ethnic Russian' from Uzbekistan asked for BHT 5000 ST / 10, 000 LT. She quick dropped to BHT 4000ST / 8000LT with warning that no further discount possible. Please note that the use of words 'ethnic Russian' were hers and not mine. Although, her face looked Slavic but I could not understand why she was so keen on distancing herself from Uzbeks.

Most notable was a tall literally breakable slim Thai. She asked for USD 300 ST and would not budge. Another cute Thai, although not as breakable as the first one, started from USD200 and then dropped and dropped and dropped and finally agreed BHT 2000 ST. Once out of CM2 she had her own ultra decorated Honda Civic. Her English was not good. In hotel she turned out to be a cold (frozen) fish. After a long mechanical boring session she left with no tip.

[Global Surfer]

Monday was ladies night I. E. No entrance fee plus a free drink. I thought it may attract better crowd but unfortunately the same stock as Sunday. So I quickly left for Sukhumvit hunting

[Global Surfer]

Both quality and quantity significantly improved from pervious visit about one and half year ago. 5-7 gather by the side of the over head bridge after Subway at around midnight. After that they keep on patrolling the area between Sukhumvit 3 to 7 till 3-4 am. Many of them may even pull your hands. Rates depend upon your bargaining skill but usually range from BHT1000 – BHT 1500.

[Marcos]

although, her face looked slavic but i could not understand why she was so keen on distancing herself from uzbeks.because (as any other powerful country earth) russia has colonized, exploited, and raped neighbor places, considering them sub-humans, and being hated in return, we may not know much about but be reassured that they do.


after a long mechanical boring session she left with no tip.unfortunately the bt 500 difference will not make a difference to her behavior next time, we're condemned by global growth.

maybe one should seriously consider africa next time. brrrr.

[Catbird]

Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.


It is obviously we live in different worlds when it comes to Bangkok and its freelancemarket. I have been rather active in this market the last 7-8 years, so naturaly I can not speak of how things were prior to this. I can also admit I have not been so much in the Nana parking but been in the area browsing and walking. My normal pickup places (Climax, CM2, Bangkok Beat, Thermae, Insomnia (infinity) , Mixx, Shock, Spasso, Beer Garden, Gullivers, Q-bar, Levels (rather new) and on rare occations RCA are and Route66 and so on. I have also sometimes (not so often) picked up girls from the streets but I have been around so I can spot them from a distance as well even if I don't pick them. I also like to add in almost 50% of my time spend in BKK I have a fairly number of regular girls I like to hang out and in with to add certain normality into my life. I am in BKK 10 to 15 times a year (avarage) so I would say I am in possition to atleast add my 2 cents when it comes to quote actual poster.

I have in all honesty not seen a dramatic change when it comes to number of ladies and beauty (and yes I am aware that beauty is in the eye of the beholder). Even prices haven't changed much in my listed places. There are no problem to meet girls ranging from 6 to 9 in these places. Prices may vary from from location to location but have been the same many years (I talk about girlprices).

So even if I never have seen the hordes of SW around Nana I still feel there are atleast the same ammount of girls to choose from in my type of mongering. Evenings in Soi 11 I also see a lot of street girls ready for pick up. You also have quite a lot of girls standing outside Thermae and I see some pick up girls every now and then walking from Soi 11 toward Soi 3 (odd number side). But this is not meant to argue your post just enlighten readers of my observations as I think things are not so negative. And Elena sitting outside Subway in Soi 7 will allways be around.

Ofcourse Thailand in the future will change and most likely to worse for us with untreatable mongerhabits. But so far still good.

I pay on avarage 3K for LT sessions exp from Spasso (4 to 6K LT). LT sessions are without timelimitations but will range from an allnighter until, in rare cases, the break of afternoon. ST sessions (and in my case mostly for daytime use) I pay 1 to 2K. Mostly picked up from Beergarden or Gullivers (late afternoon).

[Crazy4Thai]

Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.She has been written about here a couple of times but to my knowledge no actual FRs. She is just not to my tastes but if you decide to sample I'm sure many would like to read about it. VFM?

[Catbird]

She has been written about here a couple of times but to my knowledge no actual FRs. She is just not to my tastes but if you decide to sample I'm sure many would like to read about it. VFM?Not sure she's to my tastes either, but she does look interesting. If I go there I'll let you know.

[Luvpuss]

It used to be that falangs who moved here had money. Old soldiers, government workers, big pensions, etc. Girls used to believe they could meet a nice guy. Move back home, and live the dream. Which is eating and texting.

Now the falangs that live here are lost souls. Crazy men with very few morals. Not here to raise a family, not here to make a great fortune, just here to raise fucking hell. Horny White Devils. That is why girlfriend effect is dying. They know you are not the one, they know you will probably never give them money again.

Just a few years ago I remember going to the nightclubs, and before the night was over a good looking girl would have her tongue in my mouth. And I would do nothing but walk around drunk in shorts and sandals. It is not like that now, and it never will be again.I love BKK for a week or 2.

Maybe 30 years ago soldiers and Govt. Workers could afford it. No way now.

I have a great pension, but would never move to BKK. Way too much smog, heat, traffic. The cost for a nice upscale Apt. Is almost the same I would pay in California.

Also, the nightclub action you use to get is true. But the girls don't have to act that way now. Way too many Asian tourists and businessman lowering the bar for services and the girls realize they don't have to put out in those places as much anymore.

I don't see the the majority of Falang living in BKK as crazy. There are a few. Pattaya definitely most are nuts.

[Marcos]

I have a great pension, but would never move to BKK. Way too much smog, heat, traffic. The cost for a nice upscale Apt. Is almost the same I would pay in California.Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.

[Scorchin1470]

Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.With a generalisation that is not very sensible. Bangkok does not suck. To many people it is a dynamic vibrant city. It has hard core of sex areas which 90 percent of the population never visit

(Thais have their own brothel area).

But if you are spending time on here with useful information please don't insult Bangkok and the Thais.

[Nclpimp]

I know I'll be doing plenty of mongering but what at times I want to sightsee and shop around. I'm looking for perhaps iPhone cases, toys (the repeating hamster that repeats everything you say and is uber cute) , converters and things of that nature. Where would you guys go in BKK to buy that. If the clerk is cute maybe hook up later would be a plus. Would that be Chinatown? If so where?

[Goatscrot]

It used to be that falangs who moved here had money. Old soldiers, government workers, big pensions, etc. Girls used to believe they could meet a nice guy. Move back home, and live the dream. Which is eating and texting.

Now the falangs that live here are lost souls. Crazy men with very few morals. Not here to raise a family, not here to make a great fortune, just here to raise fucking hell. Horny White Devils. That is why girlfriend effect is dying. They know you are not the one, they know you will probably never give them money again.

Just a few years ago I remember going to the nightclubs, and before the night was over a good looking girl would have her tongue in my mouth. And I would do nothing but walk around drunk in shorts and sandals. It is not like that now, and it never will be again.Nah, it is simply more expensive and the girl's expectations are far higher, and there are dudes willing to meet those expectations. There are still guys here with money.

[Goatscrot]

The ongoing mood is right. Bangkok is not anymore what it was, and chances are it will never be again.

What a difference compared to just two years ago, when young, dressed up and sexy SWs were standing in hordes as one exited down the tollway to get to Nana. I went to the same place and there are only buses parked there now.

Or when I did go to Insanity with a lady from Pattaya, and it was easy to get the number of another beauty in three seconds then go dining the following day, the rest it did not happen but was not a matter of money or bad attitude, not at all. I did go yesterday and most girls are either plain ugly, or kinda hardcore, or not inviting, on top of that the male / female ratio is all wrong. The only good note, getting in from the restaurant works and saves one 140 B. On the 1st drink.

There, I picked a very average looking one for 1500, only to send her back home with 300 afters things started going downhill very quickly. Standard request is 2K, rendered performances is a bet.

Nana liquid was not any better. Bamboo is scaring from outside already. Fill here other FL places if you know.

Some of the girls sitting by Nana parking may look cute, but they come inexperienced and practical zero will to please. Letting language issue aside.

Then you can stroll Sukhumvit up and down all night but I unless you've got twisted tastes, there will be nothing palatable.

About bars, spa's and go-go's, to which normally I don't go, others have given us the lowdown already.

Which options are we left with? Make a move with the maid, or probably just getting deeper wallets.Well stated and I agree with you. It has changed, and the changes will continue. Bangkok is a very dynamic city, and not just in the P4P scene. Globalization has brought an unfortunate sameness across the planet. We are seeing the WalMarting of the sex industry and the complete commercialization of Thailand. Some may live it; I myself do not.

[Harry Dude]

I know I'll be doing plenty of mongering but what at times I want to sightsee and shop around. I'm looking for perhaps iPhone cases, toys (the repeating hamster that repeats everything you say and is uber cute) , converters and things of that nature. Where would you guys go in BKK to buy that. If the clerk is cute maybe hook up later would be a plus. Would that be Chinatown? If so where?MBK center (just google it) has more gadgets and iphone cases and converters than anywhere else on the planet.

BTS (Skytrain) stop is National Stadium.

Also Pantip Plaza. But it's not as convenient to BTS.

[Marcos]

With a generalisation that is not very sensible. Bangkok does not suck. To many people it is a dynamic vibrant city. It has hard core of sex areas which 90 percent of the population never visit

(Thais have their own brothel area).

But if you are spending time on here with useful information please don't insult Bangkok and the Thais."Dynamic vibrant" compares well to "Full figured curvaceous beauty". You know what that means.

There is no insult, it is just simply an ugly, dirty, polluted, congested huge city without any major attraction and no quality of life unless one lives retreated 24/7 in a luxury apartment or spa. I'm surprised by how many tourists it attracts, and sincerely doubt that any will be back a 2nd time. I'm sorry if you live here and got convinced yourself of the contrary.

I've lived in and visited the capitals of many other countries, some 1st word, some not. All were infinitely better than Bangkok.
Some "ranking", Bangkok is nowhere to be found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_Survey

[SailSingapore]

Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.Hahaha! Am in gorgeous SoCal right now. And LOVING IT!

[Oidar]

Nah, it is simply more expensive and the girl's expectations are far higher, and there are dudes willing to meet those expectations. There are still guys here with money.Falang with "real money" do not have to do silly shit like report to immigration every 90 days. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I can you tell you first hand everytime I go it is swamped with broke motherfuckers.

On occasion I still go out to P4P venues from high end to low end, but not for sex. Just to drink and act stupid. Most of the time I'm stoned. So, I don't say much. However, my friends are complete assholes. Cat calling, negotiating prices just for kicks, speaking crude Thai, running off other punters, arguing about the bills. All in a night's fun.

And we are not the only ones.

[Member #4387]

Thanks for your thoughts Skogis. Nice to hear from a seasoned monger who doesn't seem to have an agenda, an axe to grind or a fight to pick. As for Elena, the Subway fixture, what's the story with her, if you know? She seems a hard working working girl. I'm guessing she might have an impressive skill set.If I don't remember terrible wrong I mean I read a post inside here not to long ago (within a month or so) of a fellow mongerer who had ST with Elena back at her place (Soi 24 I think it was). He was satisfied with her performance if I remember correctly. I agree she looks like a hardned workinggirl but I did talk to her my last trip and she was actually quite nice to talk to (I only bought her some Sub food which she did appreciate). She had good mood and was cheerful (oposite to many of her fellow Russian brothers / sisters). In fairly dimmed light setting outside Subway nighttime she does not look to bad (I don't talk her down but I can't remember seen her in broad daylight). Atleast I have seen worse looking girls in same light settings. I have never seen her standing so I don't know how she is bodywice. So big Kudos to the first detailed FR from bedhumping with Elena. I look forward to that one (no, I will not take her to write that report, sorry).

[Margaya]

Well stated and I agree with you. It has changed, and the changes will continue. Bangkok is a very dynamic city, and not just in the P4P scene. Globalization has brought an unfortunate sameness across the planet. We are seeing the WalMarting of the sex industry and the complete commercialization of Thailand. Some may live it; I myself do not.I absolutely agree with you. Western countries are not what they used to be and meanwhile wealth has flown out to rest of the world resulting in higher rates and low availability. I paced up and down on sukhumvit several times and could not find evrn one girl to my liking. All below 3/10.

I am afraid it is only going to become even more uglier (pun not intended)

[Luvpuss]

Hahaha! Am in gorgeous SoCal right now. And LOVING IT!Me too. It is 80 degrees and beautiful. I am looking out my window at the golf course and think I might go play 9 holes.

[Marcos]

Me too. It is 80 degrees and beautiful. I am looking out my window at the golf course and think I might go play 9 holes.I wanted to play 3 holes, but she left before I had a chance to. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Now for some intel:

Visited Q Bar. Small place, aims to be sophisticated, reason for which drinks are priced twice as much as normal.
Few apparent FLs and the mixed stuff that one never get to know for sure what it is. Seen a Thai girl with the body of a Brasilian? Few others from 6 to 8. Male to female ratio 60/40.

Back to Infinity. One thin girl wants me to buy a drink for her friend, that actually has two half full glasses in front of her, and was not even remotely interested. Meaning: "Sucker, pay up, then walk". I walked without paying.
Finally one slim half drunk Pheet pinches my butt, at least showed the will, something looked promising (namely the sleazy horny sl*t looks), so I took her home. Body OK, no towel roll bullshit, great energetic session for as long it lasted, wanted jizz all over mouth and face. Then as it happens she wanted to go home, gave her 1K and taxi money. Would repeat.

[HenryV]

Where is "Q-Bar."

Thank you.


I wanted to play 3 holes, but she left before I had a chance to. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Now for some intel:

Visited Q Bar. Small place, aims to be sophisticated, reason for which drinks are priced twice as much as normal.

Few apparent FLs and the mixed stuff that one never get to know for sure what it is. Seen a Thai girl with the body of a Brasilian? Few others from 6 to 8. Male to female ratio 60/40.

Back to Infinity. One thin girl wants me to buy a drink for her friend, that actually has two half full glasses in front of her, and was not even remotely interested. Meaning: "Sucker, pay up, then walk". I walked without paying.

Finally one slim half drunk Pheet pinches my butt, at least showed the will, something looked promising (namely the sleazy horny sl*t looks) , so I took her home. Body OK, no towel roll bullshit, great energetic session for as long it lasted, wanted jizz all over mouth and face. Then as it happens she wanted to go home, gave her 1K and taxi money. Would repeat.

[Seaham1900]

Several other board members have chipped in on this debate as well and I completely agree with their stance. If you don't want to pay 1, 000 baht for a blow-job then don't, it's really that simple. Go somewhere that offer 700 baht blow-jobs in an environment more to your liking. I know of ultra seedy places in China town where you can pay 200 baht for FS. If it is purely a price orientated stance you have then I would advise going to places other than Sukhumvit which is far from the cheapest in tow.

Regards,

BJThis type of comment is typical of the spitefulness you exhibit. I am not cheap far from it and to suggest I am is insulting. Blow jobs are available in Sukhumvit not Chinatown at 700, you know this so why try and distort what was an honest reflection on my visit to your place. This is why you have so many decent people who detest you.

[Goatscrot]

"Dynamic vibrant" compares well to "Full figured curvaceous beauty". You know what that means.

There is no insult, it is just simply an ugly, dirty, polluted, congested huge city without any major attraction and no quality of life unless one lives retreated 24/7 in a luxury apartment or spa. I'm surprised by how many tourists it attracts, and sincerely doubt that any will be back a 2nd time. I'm sorry if you live here and got convinced yourself of the contrary.

I've lived in and visited the capitals of many other countries, some 1st word, some not. All were infinitely better than Bangkok.

Some "ranking", Bangkok is nowhere to be found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_SurveyBangkok is dirty, intense, etc. But it is one of the greatest food cities on the planet.

[Ivanba]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_SurveyThat looks like the Wonder Bread quality of living index. All polished and great cities. I have a home in one of them. Comparing Bangkok to any of them is like comparing apples to rambutan.

Setting aside the abundance of and my attraction to Thai women, for me BKK was an acquired taste. It's definitely a gritty place but has corners of posh and smugness too. Personally I'm into the urban vibe. It's urban as it gets, old mixed with new. When you first show up it can be a bit overwhelming.

I'm sitting in one of those polished living survey cities right now. Compared to BKK I find it boring and I can't wait to get back in a few weeks. My two cents.

[Ivanba]

I love BKK for a week or 2.

The cost for a nice upscale Apt. Is almost the same I would pay in California.Where in California? Just curious.

[Rodwint2]

Bangkok is dirty, intense, etc. But it is one of the greatest food cities on the planet.What are your Top Ten list of food venues? I don't mean to imply that only restaurants only should be listed, because some of the best food seems to be at some of the street side vendors, too.

I have a few days in BKK coming up and wouldn't mind checking out some of your best picks!

[Western787]

Bangkok sucks, but prices aren't same as in California yet. Upscale small apartment in best location $1K a month or $100K to buy, try that in Calif.Not just better than California, ok air not too good, but best supporting infrastructure and best condo (rental / buy) bargains in southeast asia. Look at the apartment prices in Ho Chi Minh City these days.

[Western787]

Where in California? Just curious.

in the remote areas

[Western787]

Where in California? Just curious.Death Valley, California,

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1599/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1599-7940.jpg

[Paul Kausch]

"Dynamic vibrant" compares well to "Full figured curvaceous beauty". You know what that means.

There is no insult, it is just simply an ugly, dirty, polluted, congested huge city without any major attraction and no quality of life unless one lives retreated 24/7 in a luxury apartment or spa. I'm surprised by how many tourists it attracts, and sincerely doubt that any will be back a 2nd time. I'm sorry if you live here and got convinced yourself of the contrary.

I've lived in and visited the capitals of many other countries, some 1st word, some not. All were infinitely better than Bangkok.

Some "ranking", Bangkok is nowhere to be found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercer_Quality_of_Living_SurveyTo each his own. I've traveled and lived all over the world, including some very desirable locations. For 20 years my home base was in San Francisco, and I have (had) plenty of money to appreciate all the Bay Area has to offer. For the past fifteen years Bangkok has been one of my favorite places to visit. Yes, it's dirty and congested and Thailand has its problems but I l always look forward to my next trip; and may one day settle there.

[JerseyShoreSun]

I fully echo paul's sentiments. The bad news is that by the time I am financially able to make that choice to live where I want and - today that is Bangkok - in a few years from now, it might have the same inflation and cost of living issues as some of the most desirable global cities of today! But such is life and you got to just hope that it all works out as hoped or desired for in the end.


To each his own. I've traveled and lived all over the world, including some very desirable locations. For 20 years my home base was in San Francisco, and I have (had) plenty of money to appreciate all the Bay Area has to offer. For the past fifteen years Bangkok has been one of my favorite places to visit. Yes, it's dirty and congested and Thailand has its problems but I l always look forward to my next trip; and may one day settle there.

[Marcos]

Where is "Q-Bar."

Thank you.Drive inside Su. T 11, left at the T, it is at next corner on the right. I've found it with Google maps, as well as all the other places mentioned.

[Dr BJ]

This type of comment is typical of the spitefulness you exhibit. I am not cheap far from it and to suggest I am is insulting. Blow jobs are available in Sukhumvit not Chinatown at 700, you know this so why try and distort what was an honest reflection on my visit to your place. This is why you have so many decent people who detest you.Now now Son, take a deep breathe and stay calm. First off it was your good self that raised the issue of not paying 1000 baht for a blow-job when it is available for 700. What you obviously failed to grasp was my attempt to demonstrate there is a sliding scale for P4P, as there is for many services. No one was trying to distort anything. You came to the Salon paid for a blow-job, stated in a fair way you will not be coming back as there are "cheaper" places you prefer to go and my response was that that was fine with me. Please show me where this "distortion" occurred?

So many decent people who detest me? I'm guessing you mean people on this forum as this is where you have posted this. Hmmm let's have a look. Lotus 303, incoherent Glaswegian who has been to Thailand once. Oidar, deluded accusations that any remotely positive post about either of my businesses is obviously written by me under a different name. In fact there are only eight people who actually post on this forum, as I myself am 97% of the people on here including Oidar. Franciscass, never been to any of my places but has waged a war of venom and spite towards everything I say or do for 17 months. Wolf Hound, owns a blow-job place in Pattaya and has close ties with a competitor in Bangkok. Of the 20 times he has posted eight have been deleted for him and the rest "exhibitions of spite" directed at me. Very strange behaviour from someone I met once at his place in Pattaya for about 20 minutes.

Not one of these people has contributed anything worthwhile to this forum ever, please read through their posts and try to contradict me. I wholeheartedly agree with you that these individuals probably do detest me but as for them being decent? I really don't think "decent" people would conduct themselves in this manner.

Regards.

BJ

[Nuru Guru]

wrong! [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) only increased the price last year to 800b. so guru i will 'communicate' to you. lol!no! i'm not wrong, i'm sure about it.

[Nuru Guru]

Of course you do doc and what's more revealing we now know where you source your fab collection of providers for your upmarket expensive Sukhumvit "salon".Wich kind of problem you have with Dr BJ venue? You don't like here? Just don't came here. Maybe too simple too understand it

[Scorchin1470]

Of course you do doc and what's more revealing we now know where you source your fab collection of providers for your upmarket expensive Sukhumvit "salon".Enough of your sly digs. The more you attack Dr BJ the more he rubs his hands as the punters roll up to check his places out.

I have visited. Average Nuru massage, great 1-to-1 sex. Same same many places!

[Dr BJ]

Well Franciscass this is indeed a sad day for me. For some reason I cannot view any of your previous posts, not exactly a disadvantage I grant you. The implication is that I will not be able to see what you post in the future, until you continue your crusade using a different user name that is. But this means we have to start from scratch. This may have been done by a database error as I can assure you I have never put anyone on ignore and you would be top of my shit-list were I to do so.

So what is a man to do to pass the day now that I have been denied the pleasure of your pointless posts? Hmmmmm I suppose I could always try chewing drawing pins, an activity which I feel will be infinitely more rewarding. Please don't let the fact that I am now unable to respond to your spineless rants deter you from spewing your bile on a regular basis as every time you try to besmirch my name you actually raise my profile and that of my businesses and lower your own respect, if that is actually possible now. I hope you have a long and prosperous life as I know I will, despite my rampant paranoia and "fragile disposition" (you really seem to be running out of insults if these are the new depths you are plumbing in a desperate search for personal insults). So I guess I will have to leave responding to your vacuumus posts to one of my "flunkies" as you put it.

My business cell number is on our web site. If you have a change of heart you could give me a call and we could go out for a few beers some time. You never know you might, in time, even become one of "my best new friends". Feel free to respond to this post in the knowledge I will not be able to read it.

Ciao, friend

[Goatscrot]

What are your Top Ten list of food venues? I don't mean to imply that only restaurants only should be listed, because some of the best food seems to be at some of the street side vendors, too.

I have a few days in BKK coming up and wouldn't mind checking out some of your best picks!Truthfully there is very little good Thai food in the Nana area. Only thing I recommend around there is Shaharazad or one of the other Arab restaurants on Soi 3/1.

For Thai and other Asian Foods-

Joke 55 Pojana right past Thonglor (Soi 55) is a must. Thai Chinese at its best. The Tom Chep Chai is amazing.

Thai Golden Bay Leaf on Sukumvit 101/1 about 200 meters in on the left hand side. This ex-restaurant chef runs one of the best eateries in the city IMHO.

J Goi Isaan on Phetburi Road at Ratchetewi station. Get off the train exit left to the North and left on Phetburi about 250 meters. J Goi is the second Isaan Restaurant you come to. Excellent Lard pla duk!

Northern Chinese Food (eaten here for years and don't know the name) where Rama IV and Suk 24 intersect, close to the BMW Dealership. At the intersection turn to the right and walk in front of the dealership and up to the next row of shophouses. It is the first restaurant you come to. They do an eggplant that is fried like french fries with a slightly sweetened rice wine vinegar that will send your taste buds into orbit.

Home Islamic Restaurant- Charoen Krueng Road Soi 36 near the back of the Oriental Hotel. Best Khao Mok Gai in the city.

Chanhom- Southern Thai food on Ramkhamhaeng Soi 21. Outstanding restaurant. Blazingly spicy Southern Thai food. Not for the weak of heart. About 3/4 of the way between Ramkhamheang and Ram Intra expressway. The Gaeng Luang is off the charts.

Nagiya Izakaya- My fav Japanese. Located on Suk 26 at Rama IV in Nihonmachi Plaza behind K Village.

All of these places except for Nagiya are very inexpensive. Figure on about a max of 300 baht with beer per person to eat like pigs. Some are closer to 200. Nagiya figure about 500 baht.

This ought to keep you busy on your trip! Enjoy eating in BKK. It is an amazing food city.

[Goatscrot]

Be happy for the thais. I doubt many of them want to go back living the stone age life. They like televisions, I phones, hot showers, and a nice bed.

I know one thing, Thailand aint no same same as USA! And you can take that to the bank!

Wla marting of sex industry means all same same at lower prices. I really don't see that happening.

Goatscrot you got to get out more, breathe in the BKK smog. It will do you good.

Last night Rainbow2. 4 ippuns barfine 4 girls, I figure they go clubbing, whatever the hell groups do. 30 minutes later 2 girls come back. Within 40 minutes all 4 were back in bikinis ready for next customer. LOL.

Also 2 other girls were barfined. One 30 minute short time and the other maybe 45 minutes. Got to love these girls. LOL.

I really like the Rainbow girls but this is why I hesitate to barfine them. LOL.I was not referring to the prices when citing Walmart, just the generic experience of shopping there. GoGos in BKK are like WalMarts with Sak's 5th prices.

I get out plenty as you might be able to tell from my posting about food in this city. It is rare that I am home in the evening. Searching out new places to eat all over the city, drinking at a few select spots when I can have a good Belgian or American Craft beer, and looking at great looking women. Suk from Soi 3- Asoke has just become pretty gross in my eye, although I do hit Beer Vault at the Four Points on Suk 15. Great place. 180 baht Belgians on tap (1 pint) and the view out the window is the back entrance to Thermae so you can see all the Mangda Thai boys dropping their girlfriends off to service the Japanese.

As far as GoGo bars are concerned, I just find them and most of the girls in them amazingly boring. Mind you I spent many a year hanging in Cowboy and Nana. At this point, I have very little to talk to them about (like I ever really did) and find it impossible to feign interest in what most of them have to say, and sexually, meh, we have been over and over the drawbacks of gogo gals. Totally with you on the time thing. They would probably not be happy doing a sesh with me nor me with them.

To each his own, though pretty much everyone, but not all, eventually tire of that scene. Never thought I would, and I thought the dudes that rarely came out when I first moved here were nuts, but now, hey, I am one of them.

Enjoy!

[Goatscrot]

Not just better than California, ok air not too good, but best supporting infrastructure and best condo (rental / buy) bargains in southeast asia. Look at the apartment prices in Ho Chi Minh City these days.Bangkok is still one of the cheapest capital cities in the world. No doubt about it. Of course there is a glut of real estate on the market here.

[Rodwint2]

Truthfully there is very little good Thai food in the Nana area. Only thing I recommend around there is Shaharazad or one of the other Arab restaurants on Soi 3/1.

For Thai and other Asian Foods-

Joke 55 Pojana right past Thonglor (Soi 55) is a must. Thai Chinese at its best. The Tom Chep Chai is amazing.

Thai Golden Bay Leaf on Sukumvit 101/1 about 200 meters in on the left hand side. This ex-restaurant chef runs one of the best eateries in the city IMHO.

J Goi Isaan on Phetburi Road at Ratchetewi station. Get off the train exit left to the North and left on Phetburi about 250 meters. J Goi is the second Isaan Restaurant you come to. Excellent Lard pla duk!

Northern Chinese Food (eaten here for years and don't know the name) where Rama IV and Suk 24 intersect, close to the BMW Dealership. At the intersection turn to the right and walk in front of the dealership and up to the next row of shophouses. It is the first restaurant you come to. They do an eggplant that is fried like french fries with a slightly sweetened rice wine vinegar that will send your taste buds into orbit.

Home Islamic Restaurant- Charoen Krueng Road Soi 36 near the back of the Oriental Hotel. Best Khao Mok Gai in the city.

Chanhom- Southern Thai food on Ramkhamhaeng Soi 21. Outstanding restaurant. Blazingly spicy Southern Thai food. Not for the weak of heart. About 3/4 of the way between Ramkhamheang and Ram Intra expressway. The Gaeng Luang is off the charts.

Nagiya Izakaya- My fav Japanese. Located on Suk 26 at Rama IV in Nihonmachi Plaza behind K Village.

All of these places except for Nagiya are very inexpensive. Figure on about a max of 300 baht with beer per person to eat like pigs. Some are closer to 200. Nagiya figure about 500 baht.

This ought to keep you busy on your trip! Enjoy eating in BKK. It is an amazing food city.Your options give me a good array of choices. I am interested in the J Goi Issan and the northern Chinese food. Thanks you.

[Marcos]

Great info Goatscroat. With too many restaurants and too much Internet information it is difficult to make a choice. Thanks!

[Ehunter]

Another brainless doc surrogate who feels the need to weigh in with his inane point of view. It would be nice doc if just once one of your flunkies was at least literate.And isn't this the pot calling the kettle black? What a dope.

Go back and read your previous posts to this one. You think posters on the sidelines are buying your condescending crap and that the Doc is running around sprinkling fairy dust on peoples heads for his zombie converts? Ya right.

You are just another scorned poster with an agenda.

With all 50-60 some-odd posts, most likely you don't have the cohones to post under your own handle.

[Ehunter]

They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.This cracks me up because my last day in BKK I walked into a place there were 3 Indians sitting on a bench. Across from them. 3 meters away was a line up of about 10 girls. The three Indians looked shell shocked and scared to death to make a move and individually pick a girl. They could have been trying to negotiate a volume discount based on three guys. Who knows.

In terms of rudeness, I can only say the abundance of guys I work with in the office are the nicest, most pleasant people I have every worked with. Once I leave the country though, it seems things change. There was one guy at the airport who really got under my skin. Scooting in front of everybody in line like they were not there. The guy had the gall to stick his documents over on top mine for the checker in the airport line so he could pass through before me. Then. 5 minutes later, the same guy skipped pass me again in the xray line as I was putting mu stuff into the box. I looked up and the TSA person was looking at me with a grin, basically indicating to me to just leave it alone, and I did. If it were not for this happening in the security area I would have chewed out his ass out and good.

[Ehunter]

MBK center (just google it) has more gadgets and iphone cases and converters than anywhere else on the planet.

BTS (Skytrain) stop is National Stadium.

Also Pantip Plaza. But it's not as convenient to BTS.I agree with you. The whole 4th floor is nothing buy phone, ipad related stuff and services. We are talking about a whole football field in size of stuff, and you can dicker on the prices.

[Ehunter]

This type of comment is typical of the spitefulness you exhibit. I am not cheap far from it and to suggest I am is insulting. Blow jobs are available in Sukhumvit not Chinatown at 700, you know this so why try and distort what was an honest reflection on my visit to your place. This is why you have so many decent people who detest you.This is ridiculous. The guy nicely says there are other venues at other price points and you take offense to it. Accept it and move on.

Sigh. Such is the world of the internet.

[Ehunter]

Wich kind of problem you have with Dr BJ venue? You don't like here? Just don't came here. Maybe too simple too understand itAs he states, he is spending extra time digging into the DR's business model. Like I said earlier, he is agenda driven and scorned at the apparent success of what has been created.

[Crazy4Thai]

This type of comment is typical of the spitefulness you exhibit. I am not cheap far from it and to suggest I am is insulting. Blow jobs are available in Sukhumvit not Chinatown at 700, you know this so why try and distort what was an honest reflection on my visit to your place. This is why you have so many decent people who detest you.WELL! Finally We know what the vendetta is about! And I thought your little group of whiners were just psycho. Thanks for the crystal clear explanation. I'm with you now mate! No more Dr. BJ's for me!

[Dan7373]

A few girls that I picked up on beach road said they were prepared to turn me down because my brown skin made them believe I was Indian. I asked why? They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.It sounds like Indian guys like to gang-bang their pretty lady, rather than just take her out for a 1 on 1 encounter. If they have 4 guys for example, then the lady might agree for the price of 3. Because she has only 3 holes for their poles at a time. The 4th guy will wait for his turn.

[Gaganb357]

It sounds like Indian guys like to gang-bang their pretty lady, rather than just take her out for a 1 on 1 encounter. If they have 4 guys for example, then the lady might agree for the price of 3. Because she has only 3 holes for their poles at a time. The 4th guy will wait for his turn.As an Indian, I have always been curious of this. Even in Goa, I have seen multiple times that 3 Gujjus come with a single girl. Indians definitely would be uncomfortable with mmf so I guess they share one after the other. I guess they get to bargain for a cheaper price.

[Dr BJ]

This is ridiculous. The guy nicely says there are other venues at other price points and you take offense to it. Accept it and move on.

Sigh. Such is the world of the internet.No need to fret Ehunter, the truth is it is academic what reply I gave. Seaham1900 is not the only name this person uses to post and it does not take Sherlock Holmes to work out at least one of his other handles, they come from the same stable so to speak. This person is A. Just looking for something to "pounce on" and B. Making it look like there are several people with whom I have an axe to grind. The truth being that they are one and the same person. Watch how quick he vehemently denies this is not the only handle he uses.

I think anyone who runs a successful business and is honest and open when they post on forums will inevitably attract this type of person. If we knew more about them I think we would probably all feel sorry for him.

Regards,

BJ

[Goatscrot]

YOu a good guy.

I keep waiting for myself to get tired of Bangkok. Just doesn't happen. One thing one needs if a long time stayer- you just can't take things too serious here. If girl prices are rising-move on-lower standards a bit. This I try but very hard to do- I have a thing for pretty. Enjoy whats available. I doutb BKK type activitites are available in most of our hometowns with hot young thai girls doing the providing.

Rising pricesatRainbow 4. Seems the superstar #15 is getting 3000 short time. Don't quote me on this as my source is not exactly a certified english speaker. LOL. And her clientele is 100% farang!Amazing that dudes will pay 3k for 20 min with a gal. For me as I have stated before, it is not so much about price as it is about performance. If this superstar were to give me 90 min of porn star three hole CIM multi-shot action, then I might be willing to pay far more than 3k baht, but chances are she wants a wham bam thank you ma'am encounter, and I don't care how great looking a gal is; that just does not work for me. Don't get me wrong, I like stunning girls as well, but a stunner who is a starfish, is disinterested, in a rush, or has a poor skill set is like a Ferrari without an engine. Kind of useless in my mind. I'll take a 6. 5 to 7 in the looks dept who performs at a 9 over a 9 to 9. 5 that performs at a 4. Performance is getting harder and harder to come by at any price level these days.

[Goatscrot]

Your options give me a good array of choices. I am interested in the J Goi Issan and the northern Chinese food. Thanks you.No worries. If you have any trouble finding them PM me an I will get you the location on Google maps.

[Goatscrot]

Great info Goatscroat. With too many restaurants and too much Internet information it is difficult to make a choice. Thanks!Enjoy. Sn*tch is not the only great thing to eat in BKK!

[Margaya]

A few girls that I picked up on beach road said they were prepared to turn me down because my brown skin made them believe I was Indian. I asked why? They said" the Indian guys travel in packs and are rude, she also said they all try to fuck for the price of one". I have no problem with Indians but I paid attention after she said this. I witnessed two indians getting cussed out on beach road by working girls. I also noticed as she said that they would negotiate in packs. This confused me. Why are they trying to fuck in packs? Whats up with the lack of basic respect? Is this just a boys vacation for them to take advantage as much as possible then joke about it later? Maybe its good for me that they play this way because it appears they only kill their options.I am of Indian origin and recently witnessed this disgusting pack behaviour in Pattaya on the beach.

The reason however is not a strong liking for mmmmmmmmf (LOL) nor its just about $.

Indians are brought up in very tight knit societies where there is no room for dissent or individual growth. So basically they become so much inter-dependent that they can not even imagine travelling alone 100kms let alone a different country. Thars why they not travel together, they stay together, walk to same restaurant together, go to same bar together and of course tal to same girl together.

And then there is yet another unique trait among Asians in general, Chinese and Indians in particular. They can't seem to see beyond their nose and behave as others don't even exist. As a result they never stop to breathe and look around to understand how others are behaving around them let alone change their ways accordingly. The strength of being in a pack removes all possibilities of behaving in Rome as Romans do and hence the group of 5 negotitating with one girl.

Usually only 2/3 out of 5 will screw, strictly one at a time. Others will wait in washroom, drinking and yelling meanwhile.

All hail globalization and Outsourcing.

Cheers

[Geekster]

Just got into Bangkok for a couple days. Are there any restaurants, not bars, where the waitresses are particularly flirty, dressing sexy, etc? Like hooters, but better. Because we're in Bangkok!

[Western787]

And a lot of them look like hooligans- the type who would participate in a soccer riot, or maybe cause one.Here's the soccer hooligans headed for the club right here.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm13932800/tt0356150

[Luvpuss]

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1398150]I am of Indian origin and recently witnessed this disgusting pack behaviour in Pattaya on the beach.

The reason however is not a strong liking for mmmmmmmmf (LOL) nor its just about $.

Indians are brought up in very tight knit societies where there is no room for dissent or individual growth. So basically they become so much inter-dependent that they can not even imagine travelling alone 100kms let alone a different country. Thars why they not travel together, they stay together, walk to same restaurant together, go to same bar together and of course tal to same girl together.

And then there is yet another unique trait among Asians in general, Chinese and Indians in particular. They can't seem to see beyond their nose and behave as others don't even exist. As a result they never stop to breathe and look around to understand how others are behaving around them let alone change their ways accordingly. The strength of being in a pack removes all possibilities of behaving in Rome as Romans do and hence the group of 5 negotitating with one girl.

Usually only 2/3 out of 5 will screw, strictly one at a time. Others will wait in washroom, drinking and yelling meanwhile.

All hail globalization and Outsourcing.

That is very interesting.

Now that you mention it I do not think I have ever seen an Indian man alone in Thailand

[BionicMan]

Just got into Bangkok for a couple days. Are there any restaurants, not bars, where the waitresses are particularly flirty, dressing sexy, etc? Like hooters, but better. Because we're in Bangkok!You said it right: it is Bangkok, it is not Chicago or LA or Houston where you need to be titillated by Hooters. Here you can eat decent food for the sake of eating food, and then have plenty of titillating options for the purpose of being titillated and beyond. It is also well known that Thais are not amongst the naturally big breasted girls (oh well, maybe at Hooters too) so that format doesn't belong to Thai culture and habits. Enjoy Thailand for what Thailand is and offers. Do not try to find a piece of Massachusetts in Bangkok, why fly all the miles then: stay home.

[Western787]

Are there any restaurants, not bars, where the waitresses are particularly flirty, dressing sexy, etc? Like hooters, but better.Kind of like trying to sell ice to Eskimos. Just a glimpse of the city while banking and setting up for final into Suvarnabhumi is enough to give most mongers a hard on

[Goatscrot]

Business model of RAINBOW 4, long term.

As we all know R4 was a highly japanese place not too long ago. They were known for having very pretty light skin girls.

All parties were happy. Girls got the customer they wanted and vice versa!

Then farangs started showing up. Slowly but surely. And now quite a bit. And a lot of them look like hooligans- the type who would participate in a soccer riot, or maybe cause one. LOL.

Just guessing 35-40 % farang clientele. I don't know exact number. The trend is whats important.

Slowly I'm starting to see more darker skin, not so pretty girls showing up on the stages. The number of white skin pretty girls at the same time going down. JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.

Could it be the light skin girls are being eased out by the farang takeover. 35-40% of baht spent going to darker coloured girls. Less of the pie for the light skin one to split up. Whereas not long ago they had the whole pie.

If this continues R4 will just be another bar like angelwitch and its soi cowboy soul mates (don't know the names but I'm sure many of you do-the ones cater to the farang) with majority dark skin girls and will probably lose the coveted JAPANESE customer.

What would you do if you owned R4. Just take whatever you can get, screw the japanese, or would you go for all out for them again?

I just don't see how ugly girls can be a moneymaker in the long run. LOL. Pretty girls are attracted to Japanese and japanes to them.Interesting observation and very interesting question. My guess is that these trends tend to be more organic than planned. Question is, who spends more on drinks? I would assume the bar owner would want to cater to them.

I can speak about the turnover in Thermae as it is something I witnessed 1st hand over a period from 2001 till well, what you see today.

The Japanese began appearing in Thermae in early 2001. A very few at first who would congregate at the back of the room. There were very few "jap hunter" girls at the time. Slowly but surely more and more light skinned girls began coming into the bar. Initially there many would pop over from Thaniya after their shift was over or on their days off. With more and more pretty light skinned girls came more and more Japanese. The closing of the Siam Hotel on Phetburi had an impact as well. The coffee shop there was really the Asian Thermae, with tons of girls finishing work at the Phetburi soapies going there for a "nightcap." Girls were far better than Tmae on average and just like the current environ in Tmae, only some would go with Farang. By 2007 Thermae was getting to be pretty 'Nese, with Asian dudes making up at least half of the clientele and with many gals who would not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on a Western dude if he was on fire. The eco crisis impacted Thaniya and sent more and more Japanese to Thermae as their expense accounts would not bear the Thaniya burden anymore. Of course the cycle continued, more and more Asian dudes and more and more gals that appeal to them. Sad thing is the racist element. Many of the gals just won't go with Western men. Not only will they not go with Western men, but they are openly rude to them. I have seen many gals there recoil in horror when a white man tries to talk to them. They also get major flak from their friends if they are seen leaving with one. Back in 08 one of my younger friends had a gal there that liked him, but she would not be seen leaving with him, instead opting to meet him on Soi 15 so they could discreetly slip away in a taxi without her friends noticing. Frankly, this attitude from the girls is one reason I rarely enter the place these days. Why do they act this way? My guess is the answer is multi-faceted. The Japanese do not want to see girls they go with being taken by the white man. Also, the girls feel superior because they are going with an Asian guy.

What is the point you ask? Well, again it is the organic theory. I don't think any of this was ever "planned." In the case of Rainbow if more and more dark girls come to work with their friends then the clientele will change. Bar owners are struggling to get girls and cannot be choosy at the moment. I think the struggle for girls will continue as the economy is booming and there are more and more other opportunities for women.

I see the gogo scene developing with a very few select bars that have real lookers. At these bars girls will command high prices. The rest of the bars will be mediocre at best. Of course I see this throughout the P4P scene in BKK and it is really no different from what has developed in much of the West. High dollar girls and skanks, without much in between. The middle of the road gal with a brain can now get a job that will pay her a living wage, and for the vast majority of women, that is preferable to renting their bodies. The days of the part timer are pretty much over. My bread and butter for years was freelancers who had legit jobs and would come out a few times a month to supplement. The week before the 5th of the month (when rent is due in most Thai apts) was always amazing at freelancer venues with hordes of semi-pros out to garner a few thousand extra baht. Well, they don't need that anymore.

Bangkok is a very dynamic city. The pace of change has accelerated since the flood. Leave for six months and you are coming back to a different city. One thing for sure; the pace of change will continue to pick up and most changes in the P4P scene will not be that wonderful for the majority of Western mongers.

Enjoy what you have today. It will be different soon.

[Mr Gogo]

I am of Indian origin and recently witnessed this disgusting pack behaviour in Pattaya on the beach.

The reason however is not a strong liking for mmmmmmmmf (LOL) nor its just about $.

Indians are brought up in very tight knit societies where there is no room for dissent or individual growth. So basically they become so much inter-dependent that they can not even imagine travelling alone 100kms let alone a different country. Thars why they not travel together, they stay together, walk to same restaurant together, go to same bar together and of course tal to same girl together.

And then there is yet another unique trait among Asians in general, Chinese and Indians in particular. They can't seem to see beyond their nose and behave as others don't even exist. As a result they never stop to breathe and look around to understand how others are behaving around them let alone change their ways accordingly. The strength of being in a pack removes all possibilities of behaving in Rome as Romans do and hence the group of 5 negotitating with one girl.

Usually only 2/3 out of 5 will screw, strictly one at a time. Others will wait in washroom, drinking and yelling meanwhile.

All hail globalization and Outsourcing.

CheersThanks for the explanation.

[Lotus303]

No! I'm not wrong, I'm sure about it.Wrong again Nuru boy! Let me put it in terms you might understand. W R O N G.

I have been going to Lolas for 5 years now as you place just sucks, boom boom. Its the way I tell 'them.

Ciao.

Fife Walmart

[Dr BJ]

What would you do if you owned R4. Just take whatever you can get, screw the japanese, or would you go for all out for them again?

I just don't see how ugly girls can be a moneymaker in the long run. LOL. Pretty girls are attracted to Japanese and japanes to them.You do sort of raise interesting points here Harold. I am not going to labour on this one but we generally all have slightly different interpretations of what constitutes a "pretty" lady. From your post it appears you feel slightly intimidated by either European or generally Western customers in the same venue as you. Although football (correct name as it is a sport played with a ball which is controlled by the "foot" and not the hand, ie gridiron) is the most popular sport in Europe less than 2% can be considered hooligans and that is constantly declining. Do you prefer to mix with Japanese customers or is it that you like the same type of lady they do?

So if I owned Rainbow 4 I wouldn't try to staff it with girls that I myself find attractive. I wouldn't be trying to entice any one nationality or race of people. I would give the market what the market wants, it's simple economics, supply and demand. In short I would strive to create an environment where customer satisfaction is maximized and therefore so is revenue.

Regards,

BJ

[Ehunter]

my last day in bkk. (afternoon)

so now it is my turn to weigh in on dr bj's blow job place. i did my research and preselected girls either ee or g ahead of time. (going strictly on 'said' talent) when i got into the place, i was told ee was busy, but g popped up right away when she heard her letter. see g's pic on the website.

no drinks and she led me straight up to the rooms. if you can picture more or less 7 walk in closet-wide sized rooms, all in a row on your left, we walk into the first stall. there is a vinyl chair pushed next to the right side wall; at the head of the chair is a wash basin with a small pedestal to stand on.

the girl washes your junk with a healthy squeeze of bottled soap. i thought it was kind of funny that there was a cut out rubber water slide to catch drips from the wash / rinse so everything runs back into the basin. to put it simply, the leaning back chair plus the basin was just like a dentist chair with a spit basin at the head area. the whole wash took about 1-2 minutes.

so i go through the wash and rinse cycle and the girl steps aside and sinks to her knees. she looks up at me and starts blowing away. the girl is pretty good, nice tongue action, great eye contact and after about a minute of this she directs me into the chair. i get into the chair and now feel like i am going to get my hair washed because my head is now hanging over the wash basin part. i had to slide down to keep this from happening.

g then moved to the side of the chair and continues to start blowing me again. she did this so i could grope her body with my right hand. nice body, wearing a black body fishnet. i liked it. after a couple minutes of this i motion her front and center. she starts speeding up and her hair is now tickling my inside legs as she bobs up and down. two more minutes and she was holding my load in her mouth. good girl, cim all the way. i guess all that pineapple i have been eating was not enough to get any girl to swallow, including her. as side note there was only one girl in patts who would swallow for me and smile this whole trip so really i was not disappointed.

g repeated the wash and rince cycle on me again and we parted ways.

what i liked:

1) the girl – she tried to introduce some slutty-ness. i like the way she painted up her eyes, kinky-like.

2) plenty of girls from which to choose. there seem to be more girls working here than most of all the other places i came across. i am fairly picky looks wise and i walked by this place at least 5 times across the days to survey the talent. everytime i passed by there were always at least 2-3 girls that were much better than average in the looks / body department. come to think of it, every establishment i seem to survey always had at least one or two girls that was acceptable. so those guys that are posting about 'all the girls are dogs' are either blind, gay, spoiled, or have no patience. the distribution of looks is very close from one establishment to the others. this goes for most gogo's too.

what i did not like:

1) i felt like i was in a cattle line. there were a few other guys getting serviced at the same time and we could all hear each other knocking around, grunts, squishes, etc. i guess what accentuates this is none of the rooms have a ceiling. if not for the heavy chicken wire up top one could throw spit balls from one stall to the neighbors next to you.

2) bar area did not feel like a very sociable area for other mongers to bond or fraternize.

3) when i enter the establishment 'excited' and ready to go, the mood gets destroyed when the girl leaves you in the room for a couple of minutes. i am not sure why she leaves the room. my favorite place in germany used to have the girls carry a money pouch around their waist which also contained other supplies. there was never any leaving / returning. when you tell her 'yes', in three seconds she in on her knees and at work immediately. introducing delays does nothing but spoil the moment and it actually takes the girl longer to get the job done because of it. spontaneity is lost.

4) the wash process also removes the spontaneity. i think baby wipes are fine and minimizes the spontaneous loss, but that is just me.

so there you have it. i can see that some guys really take to the place. for me, i just like things a little more spontaneous with less delays. if we are talking money. 1k did not bother me because even in patts with close to mandatory drinks that is what it is costing you. one drink in sol and the money is just about the same there too. if your trip is ruined by the extra 5-$10, i really don't think you belong in thailand.

i stopped at sol in the evening. i will report on that later.

[Himeros]

Falang with "real money" do not have to do silly shit like report to immigration every 90 days. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. I can you tell you first hand everytime I go it is swamped with broke motherfuckers.

On occasion I still go out to P4P venues from high end to low end, but not for sex. Just to drink and act stupid. Most of the time I'm stoned. So, I don't say much. However, my friends are complete assholes. Cat calling, negotiating prices just for kicks, speaking crude Thai, running off other punters, arguing about the bills. All in a night's fun.

And we are not the only ones.Wow, could you let me know where you and your mates hang out so I can stay across the city when I'm in Bangkok! You don't go out for sex, you get drunk and act like a twat, you take drugs (real smart move in Thailand) , your mates are bigger dickheads than you are (thas up against some pretty stiff competition right there) , winding the girls up for your amusement, insulting their language, annoying other punters, creating grief with the bar staff and this is all in a nights fun? You say you don't say much, how about telling your mates to behave? Do you guys often end up getting a good kicking? If you tried pulling staunts like this in London youd get done in every time you went out.

This looks more like a white trash confession than a forum post.

H

[Himeros]

Wrong again Nuru boy! Let me put it in terms you might understand. W R O N G.

I have been going to Lolas for 5 years now as you place just sucks, boom boom. Its the way I tell 'them.

Ciao.

Fife WalmartI've never heard of this place Lolas, where is it and what occurs there?

H

[Pointy Stick]

so there you have it. i can see that some guys really take to the place. for me, i just like things a little more spontaneous with less delays. if we are talking money. 1k did not bother me because even in patts with close to mandatory drinks that is what it is costing you. one drink in sol and the money is just about the same there too. if your trip is ruined by the extra 5-$10, i really don't think you belong in thailand.

i stopped at sol in the evening. i will report on that later.this should be an interesting comparison fr. i've done both places but probably won't go back to sol as there is only so much low rolling i can do.

i think you nailed it though in term of price. sucking dick, as a vocation, is unpleasant business and as such i tip 200-300 baht to the girl anyway so all in costs are 1000k for me. i'd rather tip a tip for bbbj me than some waiter.

as a metter of interest does anyone know if there are thai versions of dr bj / [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? i know they exist in in saigon for the local but haven't heard any for the locals in bkk.

exactly 3 months until i hit the big mango again!

[Mr Enternational]

Indians are brought up in very tight knit societies where there is no room for dissent or individual growth. So basically they become so much inter-dependent that they can not even imagine travelling alone 100kms let alone a different country. Thars why they not travel together, they stay together, walk to same restaurant together, go to same bar together and of course tal to same girl together.Do they exhibit the same behavior when going after non-pros back home as well? Or is it just with hookers?

[BionicMan]

do they exhibit the same behavior when going after non-pros back home as well? or is it just with hookers?if you look at the rates of [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) recently reported in india, i tend to say their attitude, mor at least there is an attitude, that does not seem much different.

[Marcos]

Why do they act this way? My guess is the answer is multi-faceted. The Japanese do not want to see girls they go with being taken by the white man. Also, the girls feel superior because they are going with an Asian guy.Good analysis Goatscrot. Also let's not forget two well know factors, the 3-3-3 (that maybe now became 4-3-3) rule and the fact that Thai people do way too much assimilation in the same class or behavior social groups.

The first is well know, and just another confirmation was recently given to us by some poster here, Asians are fast to finish, and rarely come up with strange demands. While a Westerner more often that not, comes up with some fantasy of the moment, like trying some substance, going to after-hours, romp long time, eat pasta and pizza, indulge in romance, or any activity that we can find entertaining, due to the fact that we grow up in a pretty much liberated, curious and individualistic culture. And that in most cases we happen to think that company of this type doesn't have to be paid for, except that we foot the bill. Some girls may like that, most don't, they prefer to spend their time sitting where they only have to wait for the next customer, or if they have one, make cute faces, sing some song, fill his glass incessantly, and being paid for.

And the second is about how Thai girls interact between themselves, especially the P4P ones. Probably not enough has been written on this, and I'm a poor writer, but I've seen enough during the years to get some understanding of it. One can derive most of the mechanisms from the general Thai culture, however in the case of working girls, things really advanced to an higher level of irrationality. In short, for Thai girls having a social bond whatsoever is more important of the advantages derived from being in the group. Especially in relationship with customer, obedience to the group is the first justification for any behavior, in a girl's mind is second only to family obligations (mostly to the mother). The social dynamics of the group are the well know human ones, with one Alpha individual, some Beta and the gregarious ones. Status is defined by apparent success, looks, and the occasional direct slap and won catfight. That is even more true about FLs, as I think bar and go-go dymanics that are somewhat distorted by the need to have "house rules" and in some cases, pure exploitation.

Without getting you bored I'll give some examples, a gregarious girl may be taken for money by her pitiless "friends" for years until she is literally broke and full of debt, but she would not stop seeing and drinking with them every night.

A girl can like a man and be in the need for money, but not go with him because he has been with some "friend" before, or because he belongs to <insert nationality, age, whatever here>, that is not approved by the group in general.

Girls can sometime have differences and when that happens you will see them moving fast in and the out, consulting with friends, choosing a time and place for the final duel and mounting drama about it. I think it's their need for some social excitement fulfilled, then the matter is usually resolved the Thai way, with minimum noise and physical contact for the maximum effect. Then they will easily get over it, with the always valid justification of having been drunk.

But try to being friend again with a girl with which you had, for example, a matter of small money or lost face. Will never happen.

In summary, I have seen them steal, lie and betray "friends" all the time, with little or no reaction at all. Because they needed a group to belong to, being alone is not socially acceptable. If you find a girl that is exempt from such psychopathology, hang to her (relatively speaking), because isn't frequent.

[Mr Enternational]

And the second is about how Thai girls interact between themselves, especially the P4P ones. Probably not enough has been written on this, and I'm a poor writer, but I've seen enough during the years to get some understanding of it. One can derive most of the mechanisms from the general Thai culture, however in the case of working girls, things really advanced to an higher level of irrationality. In short, for Thai girls having a social bond whatsoever is more important of the advantages derived from being in the group. Especially in relationship with customer, obedience to the group is the first justification for any behavior, in a girl's mind is second only to family obligations (mostly to the mother). The social dynamics of the group are the well know human ones, with one Alpha individual, some Beta and the gregarious ones. Status is defined by apparent success, looks, and the occasional direct slap and won catfight. That is even more true about FLs, as I think bar and go-go dymanics that are somewhat distorted by the need to have "house rules" and in some cases, pure exploitation.

Without getting you bored I'll give some examples, a gregarious girl may be taken for money by her pitiless "friends" for years until she is literally broke and full of debt, but she would not stop seeing and drinking with them every night.

A girl can like a man and be in the need for money, but not go with him because he has been with some "friend" before, or because he belongs to <insert nationality, age, whatever here , that is not approved by the group in general.Damn Dr. Royce Brothers, you have me dying over here. You hit the nail right on the head. I don't know shit about bars and gogos, but I know FL like my hand knows my dick. I really love the cliques here in Pattaya. I refer to the biggest, most known, as the mafia. There is always an Alpha and Beta. And girls in other cliques are scared shitless of this group. If you have fucked with a girl from the mafia then word will be out on you and you will never be able to fuck a girl from another clique because you are so-and-so's man and all of them are in fear of getting their ass kicked. The thing about being able to infiltrate the mafia is that you never have to pay for anything again. You can drink, smoke, and fuck on them without spending a baht.

Then there are the lesser cliques. I like to move through them in stealth fucking one out of the group at a time until I have gone through them all, moving from clique to clique. Each subsequent girl is always reluctant at first then finally gives in and says not to tell the first girl. To the untrained westerner it is like why does it matter, I'm paying all of y'all. But in any case my lips are sealed.

[Mr Enternational]

I came back into DMK after 10 days in Vietnam. I was really anxious to get back home, but since my number 1 BKK girl was off work and we can never seem to coordinate our schedules, I decided to stay at her house. She picked me up when my Air Asia flight arrived at 10:50 am. She was wearing a skirt so I tried to get her warmed up while she was driving. She wasn't having any of that. We went directly to her house and rack operations started immediately. Afterwards she went into the kitchen and came back with a cake and started singing Happy Birthday. Huh? It's not my damn birthday, but thanks anyway. She said it was in her phone that it was my birthday and she thought that was why I decided to come see her. Uhhh no. She said she would give the cake away since neither of us are too keen on cake, but I had a couple of slices anyway. She said she had been up all night cleaning so after she fell off to sleep. I did some things that I needed to do on the computer. She woke up around 3:30 saying she was hungry but wanted to eat some Japanese barbecue and the place doesn't open up again until 5pm. She fell back asleep and I decided to take a nap as well.

She woke me up saying it was 6:30 and the place closes at 8. I raised my left arm which had my watch and said I know what time it is pu ying, then fell back asleep. She woke me back up at 7 and I showered and got ready to head out. We took a taxi to avoid the headache of finding parking. We were at some Silom building that is full of golf stores and Japanese restaurants. She ordered stuff and I ordered stuff. We cooked it all on the grill in the middle of the table. The bill came to 1500 baht. She put it on her card. She asked me if I wanted to go out that night and I said of course. However, it was only 9:30. Still too early.

We exited the mall and walked down the street. We turned in to Patpong 2 and as we walked past the S&M club on the right the girl out front hit me on the ass with something. I decided that we should go back and check out the club. We went inside and talked to the girl at the desk to see how everything works. All systems were go then my girl tapped me on the shoulder and told me to look at the board behind me. 900 baht entrance + 1 drink. The door girl failed to mention that part. We got the hell out of there.

I told her that while we were there I wanted to check out the Star of Light blow job bar that I had read about online. She said if I wanted to stay and get serviced then she would just take a taxi home and write the address down for me so I could come when I finished. I told her that I just wanted to take a quick look. I saw the sign on the right along with the outside bar that I had read about. There were some pretty decent girls sitting outside so I see what everyone is raving about. Much better than the Kangaroo Club that I usually frequent when I'm in BKK. I made a move for the inside with my girl in tow but the workers were trying to thwart my advances exclaiming that there was no show inside. We went in anyway. It looked just like the pictures. Bar, lockers, stool in the corner.

We walked out and cut through to Patpong. The touts started asking my girl in English to see a ping pong show. I asked her why they were doing that. She said that many people do not realize she is Thai. I said yeah, just like the movie I showed you earlier. (The movie was Hello Stranger. Until I saw that movie I assumed that Thai people recognize other Thai people, but that is obviously not the case.) We walked down the street in order to get a metered taxi that was not looking to rip off tourists and went back to the house. It was around 50 baht.

Since it was still early my girl decided that we should take a bubble bath in the Jacuzzi before going out. I like hot water and she likes cold so we had to compromise on luke warm. We stayed in about an hour listening to jazz music while she periodically gave me bjs and rode my dick inside the tub. We got out and went back to the bedroom. We decided we would go to Mixx Disco. I don't know what the hell happened, but we both ended up passed out in the bed instead. The next morning she took me to Ekkamai station to get the bus to Pattaya. On the way to the station I saw a billboard advertising a car or something and I asked her to buy it for me. She said to tell a Pattaya girl to buy it for me. She is a Bangkok girl. She said that a Pattaya girl could find a stupid American or European to send money to them. I said or Australian too! We laughed.

Later that night she sent me a text saying she saw me chatting in whats app while I was in her car. She saw my time stamp in whats app after she dropped me off. I asked her what she was talking about and told her that here she goes again with the bullshit. She said it was not bullshit and it seemed that I was hiding so it made her wonder. I asked her hiding what. Why do you think I have to hide something from you? Are you saying that I am not an adult and can not use my phone? I haven't heard from her since. No matter how many times you tell these girls that you are not looking for a girlfriend they always assume when you spend time with them that they are your girlfriend. It happens repeatedly and many times with the same damn chicks.

[Tony Hoeprano]

Great report and photos, but why did you watermark them? They're decent enough, but I don't think anyone will steal them and sell them at an art gallery LOL

[Goatscrot]

All this makes sense!

I've always wondered. Do the top earners put the money to good use or is it just wasted away? Mainly on hangers- on and posses.

I made a comment to a barfine the other day-she must have a lot of money to take to momma, as she was going home the next day. She kind of shrugged her shoulders and made the motion with her hands that theres a lot of people getting a cut of her earnings.Truth be told, most of them squander it on themselves or their deadbeat families. There are a few that have the wherewith all to save a nice nest egg for themselves, but they are few and far between. Most bar girls are lazy. There are many other ways to make it in Thailand. Renting your snapper is the easy way out.

[Goatscrot]

Good analysis Goatscrot. Also let's not forget two well know factors, the 3-3-3 (that maybe now became 4-3-3) rule and the fact that Thai people do way too much assimilation in the same class or behavior social groups.

The first is well know, and just another confirmation was recently given to us by some poster here, Asians are fast to finish, and rarely come up with strange demands. While a Westerner more often that not, comes up with some fantasy of the moment, like trying some substance, going to after-hours, romp long time, eat pasta and pizza, indulge in romance, or any activity that we can find entertaining, due to the fact that we grow up in a pretty much liberated, curious and individualistic culture. And that in most cases we happen to think that company of this type doesn't have to be paid for, except that we foot the bill. Some girls may like that, most don't, they prefer to spend their time sitting where they only have to wait for the next customer, or if they have one, make cute faces, sing some song, fill his glass incessantly, and being paid for.

And the second is about how Thai girls interact between themselves, especially the P4P ones. Probably not enough has been written on this, and I'm a poor writer, but I've seen enough during the years to get some understanding of it. One can derive most of the mechanisms from the general Thai culture, however in the case of working girls, things really advanced to an higher level of irrationality. In short, for Thai girls having a social bond whatsoever is more important of the advantages derived from being in the group. Especially in relationship with customer, obedience to the group is the first justification for any behavior, in a girl's mind is second only to family obligations (mostly to the mother). The social dynamics of the group are the well know human ones, with one Alpha individual, some Beta and the gregarious ones. Status is defined by apparent success, looks, and the occasional direct slap and won catfight. That is even more true about FLs, as I think bar and go-go dymanics that are somewhat distorted by the need to have "house rules" and in some cases, pure exploitation.

Without getting you bored I'll give some examples, a gregarious girl may be taken for money by her pitiless "friends" for years until she is literally broke and full of debt, but she would not stop seeing and drinking with them every night.

A girl can like a man and be in the need for money, but not go with him because he has been with some "friend" before, or because he belongs to <insert nationality, age, whatever here , that is not approved by the group in general.

Girls can sometime have differences and when that happens you will see them moving fast in and the out, consulting with friends, choosing a time and place for the final duel and mounting drama about it. I think it's their need for some social excitement fulfilled, then the matter is usually resolved the Thai way, with minimum noise and physical contact for the maximum effect. Then they will easily get over it, with the always valid justification of having been drunk.

But try to being friend again with a girl with which you had, for example, a matter of small money or lost face. Will never happen.

In summary, I have seen them steal, lie and betray "friends" all the time, with little or no reaction at all. Because they needed a group to belong to, being alone is not socially acceptable. If you find a girl that is exempt from such psychopathology, hang to her (relatively speaking) , because isn't frequent.Great response. We as Westerners cannot really grasp the intricate social network of Thais. We are introspective and "think too much" but our social networks are usually pretty straightforward. Thais are far simpler as individuals but their social networks are very complex.

[Margaya]

Do they exhibit the same behavior when going after non-pros back home as well? Or is it just with hookers?Good question Mr E. The answer is yes and no in case of non pros. Group is a must to provide last minute boost to the guy who is supposed to make the move, his friends will cajole him, encourage him or even push him but will stay behind the scene (bushes / trees etc.) while the terrified lover strides to the girl to profess his love. Strictly alone or the girl won't stop and will bolt.

[DRRonin]

interesting observation and very interesting question. my guess is that these trends tend to be more organic than planned. question is, who spends more on drinks? i would assume the bar owner would want to cater to them.

i can speak about the turnover in thermae as it is something i witnessed 1st hand over a period from 2001 till well, what you see today.

the japanese began appearing in thermae in early 2001.thanks very much for that analysis. it makes a lot of sense and fills in some of my absences in bangkok. i was here a lot in the early to late 90's but then started doing my skullduggery closer to home in the dr till 2005 or so and in those years two things had changed dramatically here. the japanese in thermae and the arabs totally dominating soi 3and thus killing the grace hotel scene. i know talking about yesteryear drives some people crazy but i really enjoy learning about how things have evolved here. people can come to their own judgement if the scene is better or worse, but there is no disputing that it has and will continue to change. i was talking to a fellow the other day who has been coming here since 1979 and he was telling me that back then the restaurant in the nana hotel was more a coffee shop that was filled with working girls and between that, the disco and the parking lot there was never a reason to look elsewhere. as you say bangkok is changing at an enormous speed, not only for the thai's but for us as well and we have to deal with that or go elsewhere. but there is a nostalgic part of me that sure wishes it was still like 1993. and my friend probably wishes it was like 1979 and some day someone will look back and wish it was like 2013.

[Nuru Guru]

Wrong again Nuru boy! Let me put it in terms you might understand. W R O N G.

I have been going to Lolas for 5 years now as you place just sucks, boom boom. Its the way I tell 'them.

Ciao.

Fife WalmartYou arent the only one farang in the last 5 years in Bangkok. Try to stop a drink cheap wine on breakfast.

I'm not wrong.

Ciao.

[Mr Gogo]

good question mr e. the answer is yes and no in case of non pros. group is a must to provide last minute boost to the guy who is supposed to make the move, his friends will cajole him, encourage him or even push him but will stay behind the scene (bushes / trees etc.) while the terrified lover strides to the girl to profess his love. strictly alone or the girl won't stop and will bolt.sounds kinda childish to me. reminds me of my ****s when a group of males would say things to a girl to impress the other guys. but in my late teens i learned to break from the group and be an individual. i don't think this behavior is for an adult.

[Ehunter]

I went and took a short nap after my Dr BJ visit as I envisioned one last round with one or two girls before starting the journey home early tomorrow. At about 8pm, I got food and headed out to the place I enjoyed the most, SOL.

Nana BTS to Siam, to Sala Daeng and I was there. Street exit#1 off of BTS, a few blocks down on the right, passing Mikes gogo dancers and I was there in no-time. When I walked up, There was one of my favorite girls, Rabbit! She looked happy to see me, as was her roommate Pen. The very cute little Pen. $400 barfine each and off to my hotel. The girls were happy to get away from the bar.

That Rabbit is the best cocksucker I have had in BKK. She knows when to get down, dirty, wet and sloppy and is the energizer bunny with an extra battery. Too bad I was not able to sample the famed EE at Dr BJs to compare. I gave Rabbit a slight service brake so I could feed myself to Pen for awhile. I thought Rabbit could use a chance to catch her breath. What I like about these girls is they work hard, they don't give up, and they know CIM is mandatory. Rabbit sure has a perfect pair of tits, full tear-drop shaped. Rabbit is the one in Black, Pen in Pink. They did not want their faces to show.

Before I was done with Pen I slipped on a condom and had her bar stool fuck me for a few minutes. Rabbit then decided it was time to feed me her tits. Nice firm nipples she has too. Not too big and not too small. Pens tits are much more modest. You can tell she has had a kid as the pair looks slightly deflated. I would call this the only visible flaw she has aside from both girls being very short. Her face is a 8. 9, body a 8. 5. If her tits were more full bodied her shape would be a solid 9. 1 Rabbit is a 7. 7 face and 8. 0 body. Note: Pen does not shave her pussy as she is hairless naturally. She is the first girl I have ever seen like this.

I had to put the brakes on Pens reverse standing cowgirl action. Condom off, now both girls are on their knees. Rabbit with the enthusiastic long strokes and Pen paying attention to my two boys. I could not take it anymore. I brought Pen up and she got the load. Good-ole Rabbit steady-ied her head and I was spent.

The time was 11pm and the girls wanted to get something to eat. We showered, dressed, and they were adamant about making sure I had their phone number for my next visit in town in 6 months. I thought it was funny they wanted me to take them to Pattaya next time. I did not tell them that was the last thing that was going to happen! Anyway, we then exited the President Palace, and the girls decided they wanted to eat at the same cart that has been feeding me all week. Fold up tables and plastic chairs on the sidewalk. See the pics if you want to know what the menu was like. Pen commented to me that Rabbit treats her like her mother. Rabbit directed the whole dinner, divided out all the food portions, barked at the food vendors when necessary, then made sure she got all the fish parts hiding between the bones. She pampered Pen and me hand and foot through the whole dinner. I like that.

So I let the girls leave after the food, gave them 2k each. They mentioned having another round in the room but it was past midnight and I had a 930am flight to catch so I let them go as it was already half past midnight.

I got 6 hours of sleep, up at 6:30am, shit, shower, checkout, Moto-concho (for you DR guys) to the airport BTS line and by the time I got to the boarding gate they just announced boarding. That was the best timed exit I ever made.

And that was my BKK trip. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

See you in 6 months if you don't mind stomaching my reports LOL

[Rodwint2]

Your photos of the food were more intriguing to me. Since you were at the President Palace, where exactly was that food cart set up? I am assuming that the cart is some where on Soi 11. To be quite honest, the food photos were of more interest to me than the girls!

When you mention the fold up tables and chairs on the side walk, there are more than a few on Soi 11 at night. The one I remember is between the Grand President and the market going toward Sukv, but I remember a few more around as well.

[Ehunter]

There are two or three food vendors I can remember on Soi 11. The one I eat at prefers to set up about 50-100 ft before reaching the Park hotel sign as seen in this pic:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1395608&viewfull=1#post1395608

That is, in the opposite direction of Suk where this sign is.

If they are not on the shown side of the street then they have also set up about the same place but on the opposite side of the street. Their cart is the only one that has lots of photos of their food dishes, and, they have a really cute girl who attends to all the customers, unique compared to the other vendors. The name of the seafood soup was called Tom Yam or something like that.


Your photos of the food were more intriguing to me. Since you were at the President Palace, where exactly was that food cart set up? I am assuming that the cart is some where on Soi 11. To be quite honest, the food photos were of more interest to me than the girls!

When you mention the fold up tables and chairs on the side walk, there are more than a few on Soi 11 at night. The one I remember is between the Grand President and the market going toward Sukv, but I remember a few more around as well.

[Bakara]

Hi,

New member and currently visiting BKK. Any recommendation chicks at the Eden massage.

Thanks

[Bakara]

Great experience with Yuki in Akane. While the place is a little sub-standard, the service is simply outstanding, within the regulation of this very special massage place on Soi 33. No chance for any FS, but the prostate / ball massage is really great. Highly recommended.

[Rodwint2]

There are two or three food vendors I can remember on Soi 11. The one I eat at prefers to set up about 50-100 ft before reaching the Park hotel sign as seen in this pic:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1395608&viewfull=1#post1395608

That is, in the opposite direction of Suk where this sign is.

If they are not on the shown side of the street then they have also set up about the same place but on the opposite side of the street. Their cart is the only one that has lots of photos of their food dishes, and, they have a really cute girl who attends to all the customers, unique compared to the other vendors. The name of the seafood soup was called Tom Yam or something like that.Yes, there is one just down from the Grand President side of the street where the new building is facing the street. It is just a blank wall with no windows, looks like a garage wall. In the post you have with the photo it also gave the short cut to Soi 5 that Skogis was mentioning as well. Thanks for that important information, it saves a long walk around Sukv to Gullivers, et al.

[RBDave]

Today, I didn't have a lot of free time away from the SO, so I went for a massage. I ended up on the Soi 11 Villa Supermarket passage way. I chose a woman in one of the shops close to Soi 13. Her name was Cherry. The oil massage was okay, not bad, but not great. She didn't do any teasing. I guess she wasn't sure if I wanted extras. She even kept my genitals covered the entire time. Finally, she asked if I wanted any extras.

She initially told me 1400 THB for body to body. 1000 for her and 400 for massage. I said okay. Then shortly thereafter, she asked if I wanted sex. That question surprised me, because I assumed the B2B would include sex. She then offered FS at 2000 THB, I countered with 1500 which she accepted.

Her B2B massage wasn't that great. She had a nice body for a 31 year old. Good tits, flat belly, and nice ass. This after having one child.

She wasn't very good at getting me hard, I have to say. But she finally managed to get a condom on, then went to town with her mouth for CBJ. Her technique was pretty good. I suspect she was trying to get me to cum so I wouldn't fuck her. I stopped her and she mounted me CG. Looked nice with those nice tits of hers. After a few positions, I finished in mish.

Afterwards, I wanted to go for a drink. I decided it was time that I gave Biergarden a real chance. Well, at least, sit in there and have a beer so I could check out the freelancers.

I found a seat at the bar close to the far left wall next to a woman I thought looked nice from behind. I ordered a Beer Lao and looked around. I would say the median age of the women there was around 35. The girl next to me was 33. A few others dropped by to say hello to me as I had an empty seat on my right. Nothing to write home about. There were some women I'd do, but very few. The others were way to past their prime to interest me.

[Seaham1900]

In fact there are only eight people who actually post on this forum, as I myself am 97% of the people on here.

Regards.

BJA puzzling statistic.

[Scorchin1470]

Just what is happening to Soi 33? I know the 'don't spend a baht more than. ' always criticised the bars as a con but most of the girls

Knew a little more English than 'where you stay? ' Seems only the Office is left with reasonable staff and the MPs come and go daily.

Used to be a great alternative to Soi Cowboy.

[Vino71]

If I am insensitive to cost (I have only a short time in BKK, and made some money recently) , where do I get the best experience in Bangkok?

Like: Beautiful, classy girl who gives the perfect GFE and is open to extras like anal or CIM. Or maybe two of them at the same time.

[Zeke Matthews]

I need 5 very hot girls for a party in a few weeks at a nice hotel. I'm not talking about arranging an orgy; just would like 5 girls who would fit into a party of a few American friends for a few (4?) hours. I assume that each guy would take his preferred lady off for a private session or two between socializing. Just don't want to break up the party prematurely. I like the idea of seeing photos ahead of time and reviews so that we don't have any surprises.

I was thinking escort agencies or massage outcall services. Key is that the situation is GFE and that the girls are as expected. We're looking for fun, not surprises.

I'm going to post this in the Bangkok escort site as well; maybe someone there an idea too.

Thanks!

Zeke

[Seaham1900]

Now now Son, take a deep breathe and stay calm.

Regards.

BJNo need for the patronising I am the calmest dude around, a Trappist monk would seem manic alongside me.

[Wolvenvacht]

I need 5 very hot girls for a party in a few weeks at a nice hotel. I'm not talking about arranging an orgy; just would like 5 girls who would fit into a party of a few American friends for a few (4?) hours. I assume that each guy would take his preferred lady off for a private session or two between socializing. Just don't want to break up the party prematurely. I like the idea of seeing photos ahead of time and reviews so that we don't have any surprises.

I was thinking escort agencies or massage outcall services. Key is that the situation is GFE and that the girls are as expected. We're looking for fun, not surprises.

I'm going to post this in the Bangkok escort site as well; maybe someone there an idea too.

Thanks!

ZekeThat is a nice idea, but the logistics of it seem daunting. I think getting 5 girls into your hotelroom will raise some eyebrows even in the most liberal minded hotel. Then you will need 5 girls that speak good English (or else there will not be much socializing) and will feel easy in a group of men they do not know and had no say in choosing. GFE may be expected but is never guaranteed. Nice photos do not guarantee the quality of the sex.

Do you expect your friends to choose a girl, chat her up and then disappear to their on rooms? Or will they all have sex in the same room and return later for the next round? Don't forget that sexy as these girls may look, they are rarely into sex with more than one partner present (Eden ladies and some MP girls are the exceptions). I also think it is unlikely that after one round they will easily change partners. Did you ever take a different bargirl from the same bar two nights in a row? You are likely to see drama, worthy of the better soap series!

You may have better luck if you arrange the whole party through a reliable escort agency and make it very clear what are your requirements. I have no experience with escort agencies though, but perhaps this is something where they can show some added value. One thing I am certain of is that it will be very very expensive (but it is your money, so it is your call). A rough guess will be at least 10 to 15000 baht per girl for 4 hour. That is 3 to 4 LT engagements (per girl) if you pick up the girl from the more usual a-gogos in soi Cowboy or Nana.

Personally, I think it will be more fun to go out with your group of friends and hunt them in the a-gogos (certainty of success) or discos (perhaps better on the eye-candy, but no certainty of success), but YMMV.

[Run Mann]

I need 5 very hot girls for a party in a few weeks at a nice hotel. I'm not talking about arranging an orgy; just would like 5 girls who would fit into a party of a few American friends for a few (4?) hours. I assume that each guy would take his preferred lady off for a private session or two between socializing. Just don't want to break up the party prematurely. I like the idea of seeing photos ahead of time and reviews so that we don't have any surprises.

I was thinking escort agencies or massage outcall services. Key is that the situation is GFE and that the girls are as expected. We're looking for fun, not surprises.

I'm going to post this in the Bangkok escort site as well; maybe someone there an idea too.

Thanks!

ZekeTry your luck on Craigslist.

[TimTimGuy]

I need 5 very hot girls for a party in a few weeks at a nice hotel. I'm not talking about arranging an orgy; just would like 5 girls who would fit into a party of a few American friends for a few (4?) hours. I assume that each guy would take his preferred lady off for a private session or two between socializing. Just don't want to break up the party prematurely.

Thanks!

ZekeFor what it's worth, I agree with Wolvenvacht, that the logistics of it seem daunting. ("I think getting 5 girls into your hotelroom will raise some eyebrows even in the most liberal minded hotel. Then you will need 5 girls that speak good English (or else there will not be much socializing) and will feel easy in a group of men they do not know and had no say in choosing.") If you are in Bangkok, you might visit Mango or Cherry and ask the management (Khun Nestle) what she thinks might be possible. How these PYTs get paid for (4 hours?) work (that is, before or after the event?) is something else you should consider and determine.

The "where" will be a huge challenge. If you were outside of Bangkok, in one of the beach areas, getting a villa (or two) will help sort out the choosing and losing the girls, but I don't see this event running as smoothly as you hope. I don't see the ladies switching partners as easily as you do, especially in front of other ladies. If the party is the only thing that gets broken, I'd be amazed. TTG

[Scorchin1470]

Whilst the logistics of a structured plan seem difficult it can be done. But and it is a big but, plans such as these can go awry from the start. You needto go back and think through what you are trying to formalise when a more relaxed plan of letting things roll on the day may be much better.

Sure, establish a base but don't try to pre-organise getting five WGs who will satisfy five blokes' interests. Let them seek and find.

[MichealRen1]

Hi Guys,

These is my report:

Day 1 : Met a old FL, introduced to me thru a common friend, chubby, big boobs, average face, does not suck well, but fucks quite well. Had dinner in sukhmvit soi 11, then took her to my place. Am a petite lover, so we did 2 times neverthless. Just a average fuck, would not call her again. Gave her 2000TB to get a dress for herself.

Day 2: Was walking from sukhmvit soi 3 towards soi 7, saw a nice charming gal walking along, said Hello to her and picked a conversation, as what is doing and.

Could manage to invite her to my room, she agreed for a ST and said she takes what ever I give her. Once in room we had nice conversation over vodka, her english was good. She herself agreed she does once a week for fun and money, if she likes the guy. We had our showers separately, she seems a nice rack, tan in color. 34C boobs and a nice shaved pussy.

Started with a BBBJ was average to it, but she seems to enjoy it. Played and sucked her nice tits also DFK. Started with a mish, then did doggie and cowboy. She was

Cool to different positions and let me handle her boobs very nicely and did a deep throat. It was nearly 11pm, she would not stay more, as she need to work the next day, besides she said she stays far from sukhmvit. We did exchange nos and she agreed to meet me next time. I shoved 1500TB in her bag, she left with a kiss without even checking the money. It was nealy a GFE.

Day 3: I was busy the whole day, had dinner with my supplier and was late by the time reached my hotel. So after a shower was strolling near soi 13, near the Tharmae coffee area, saw few Fl hanging the coffee shop, tried a few eye contacts, but these gals did not seems interested with me. They were all out with Koreans or Japs.

Went down to the coffee shop and ordered a beer. About 40-50 gals were hanging there, but generally they did not seems interested. While I was planning to leave the place, saw a short gal, petite entering the place. Made the eye contact and approached her. She agreed for a Stat2000, Blow job with condom and single pop only.

Started with Blow, but all thru she was not opening up. Complaining that my size was bigger for her. Just did a mish, she seems in rush and was kind of disaster. Paid her the money and let her go off. Poor experience.

Day 4: Got a contact of Uzbeki thru a fellow mongering friend. Fixed her for LT, she arrived my room around 10 pm. 32y, face was 7/10, Body: 7/10, attitude : 9/10, cleaned shaved pussy with tatoo in her pelvic area. Offered her Vodka and chocolates, we had a nice chat over drinks and she seems she had all the time in this world.

We undressed each other and had shower together in tub with our drinks. We cleaned each other and mood was very charged and comfortable. These CIS gals know how to pamper you, once you pay them what they demand. She started with a wonderful BF with condom and it was over 20 mins, licked different parts of my body and and let me play with her boobs and pussy while she was blowing me.

We did 2 pops, in different positions and she treated me very well. Every penny was woth with her. She even offered a morning pop, but since I had a early flight, I let her go off, Paid her 5000TB, which was reasonable for the kind of service she gave.

Cheers

[Bakara]

I have been in BKK on several occasions, tried a number of places, and, at the end, always come back to Darling on soi 12 on Sukhumvit Near Time Square.

Several months ago, I even tried Annies, but the overall environment, the room, and the service was far below my expectection and the Darling experience. Rooms are in poor conditions, and the girl I selected was doing is routing duty without any interested and fun.

While I am a regular customer at Darling, I noticed a few changes recently. The Papasan has retired, and replaced by 2 younger Mamasan (including a ladyboy)

Some rooms have been rehabilited on the ground floor.

Good to know that the girls with 2 digits (like 32, 45) have limited experience outside performaning sex, while the girls with 3 digits (such as 103) have other skills such as massage training etc.

Recommendations:

Anne #103 is just great. 32yrs, small with small tits, good english, very enthousiat and efficient. She is very dedicated to her work. I have here several times.

Cat #123: Another great girl again like Anne, small with small tits. Her english is pretty limited, but for the rest, no problem.

Hok #108. An older one (about 40) , with bbig tits according to Thai standard. She can team up with Anne.

More reports tom some soon

[Zeke Matthews]

For what it's worth, I agree with Wolvenvacht, that the logistics of it seem daunting. ("I think getting 5 girls into your hotelroom will raise some eyebrows even in the most liberal minded hotel. Then you will need 5 girls that speak good English (or else there will not be much socializing) and will feel easy in a group of men they do not know and had no say in choosing.") If you are in Bangkok, you might visit Mango or Cherry and ask the management (Khun Nestle) what she thinks might be possible. How these PYTs get paid for (4 hours?) work (that is, before or after the event?) is something else you should consider and determine.

The "where" will be a huge challenge. If you were outside of Bangkok, in one of the beach areas, getting a villa (or two) will help sort out the choosing and losing the girls, but I don't see this event running as smoothly as you hope. I don't see the ladies switching partners as easily as you do, especially in front of other ladies. If the party is the only thing that gets broken, I'd be amazed. TTGI will try to negotiate with the manager of the agency / massage parlor ahead of time to be sure to get the package that we need.

Zeke

[Luvpuss]

If I am insensitive to cost (I have only a short time in BKK, and made some money recently) , where do I get the best experience in Bangkok?

Like: Beautiful, classy girl who gives the perfect GFE and is open to extras like anal or CIM. Or maybe two of them at the same time.If you don't want to work for it try this:

http://bangkokgoldescorts.com/gallery.html

Click on the girl and it will tell you what she does. Many say Anal and CIM.