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Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.
By definition, prepago means prepay. Some want their cash up front, others wait till after. If you plan on paying after, you better tell her upfront to avoind any drama!
El Mechanico.
The beer is 25 k COP and ladies drink 28. To go up with a girl to the room inside the club is 300 k, which maybe not too bad as some girls looks very good, but is just 40 minutes. Seems like you will be in a rush. Anyone have taken the service here?
I believe I paid 280 k COP last year but it was an hour. The girl I took was borderline stunning and she worked very hard the entire hour. It was good and my recollection is I left somewhat surprised and happy that she didn't try to cheat at least a little.
The Tall Man
11-07-18, 06:00
I went to Club la Isla on Saturday. Many girls some 9 & 8, others like 7.
Entrance fee like 10 k.
The beer is 25 k COP and ladies drink 28. To go up with a girl to the room inside the club is 300 k, which maybe not too bad as some girls looks very good, but is just 40 minutes. Seems like you will be in a rush. Anyone have taken the service here?
Also outside the club is a cheap but decent BBQ place.My experience at La Isla is over the past 2 years I have spent about 5 to 7 nights in the club, twice I found a chica that I just had to bang, both ended up just so-so, no bad but not great just so-so, two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.
Hello to everyone here,
I have noob question.
Do you guys pay to prepago before or after?
Thank you.You have to pay up front in casas and strip clubs. A potential tip should steer your session in a good direction.
Only suckers pay FLs up front. It's a deal breaker for me.
BrazilKing
11-07-18, 14:16
My favorite is Conejitas. Its cozier. LOL The rooms are pretty decent. Some better than others. Every now and then I find a wow chica there. 5 mil beers.
Maracaibo and Ejucutiva usually have a better selection tho.What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.
MedellinGringo
11-07-18, 15:01
My experience at La Isla is over the past 2 years I have spent about 5 to 7 nights in the club, twice I found a chica that I just had to bang, both ended up just so-so, no bad but not great just so-so, two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.I never buy a girl in house or pay the multa to get them out anymore.
I just go to La Isla and Fase2 to get phone numbers. I have found that if you call them up and they decide to spend the night.
With you instead of going to work then your chances of having a very good time with them has just quadrupled.
El Mechanico
11-07-18, 17:14
Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.I always report good and bad sessions every trip. I have paid upfront and had awesome sessions and paid afterward for a lousy session. And vice versa. What I was telling the OP is he better make it clear before he gets into the room if he plans to pay afterward. The girls on Mil Eroticos will tell you they are a prepago and expect the $ up front. Most of the time it is not an issue. Believe me, if I have a bad session, you will hear about it with as much detail as possible.
El Mechanico.
Mr Enternational
11-07-18, 18:18
What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.Just jump in a taxi and tell him to take you to Conejitas. It is across from the square where the Palacio de la Cultura and Parque Berrio station are. From the Palacio diagonally bisect the square. It is across the street from the opposite corner.
What is the address of this place? I want to check it out on my next visit.Calle 53 #51-41.
,two other times I have paid the exit fee and taken chicas out, more expensive in the end but one turned out to be beautiful beyond belief, a great experience but just don't have this kind of $$ to burn through like I use to.
The Tall Man.Thanks. Yes expensive, she told me, multa, exit fee was 180 k cop, then outside she wanted 800 k for 4 hours that was she said negotiable, but for that I think is better just to bang in the club.
As mentioned also by MedellinGringo could be an option to ask for her phone, also you will need to buy some drinks that are 28 k.
A place similar to gustos. Many working girl.
Yesterday I saw a really beautiful girl, but she was already with a group and left early. I think here they quote between 100 and 200 USD, but price can be arranged.
Also at night many of the girls in hacienda where walking at Lleras and approaching you to ask if you want company and one drop it to just 200 k cop. Is funny at the bar you have to approach her but outside they go straight to you.
You have to pay up front in casas and strip clubs. A potential tip should steer your session in a good direction.
Only suckers pay FLs up front. It's a deal breaker for me.Except for Energy and New Life.
Just jump in a taxi and tell him to take you to Conejitas. It is across from the square where the Palacio de la Cultura and Parque Berrio station are. From the Palacio diagonally bisect the square. It is across the street from the opposite corner.Or even better, tell taxista, Conejitas, CL. 53 #51-41.
YippieKayay
11-08-18, 02:52
Most of the drama I hear about happens after paying up front. Paying in advance is the exception not the rule. Most providers don't require it so it's easy to avoid. Let us know how you make out.Truth. The few times I paid up front resulted in a crappy session. If it comes up just explain you always pay after and she's free to leave. They never do.
The Tall Man
11-08-18, 03:08
I never buy a girl in house or pay the multa to get them out anymore.
I just go to La Isla and Fase2 to get phone numbers. I have found that if you call them up and they decide to spend the night.
With you instead of going to work then your chances of having a very good time with them has just quadrupled.Yes much better, what I do now is 90% of the time is to try them out in the club, see how the attitude and chemistry really is, then get their number and follow through for a session when they are off work. My fun factor just about doubles when I practice this.
The Tall Man.
Usually upfront girls around the world are an indication of drama queens with history of fighting with clients. And once you give her the money upfront you just removed all her motivation to give you good service, no incentive but only drama so that she can leave earlier.
And I don't like discussing this upfront in the clubs either it just kills the whole mood. Its best to just give her cap money and ask her to get f out before anything. Not every girl but most.
I guess, its like your boss giving you next year salary upfront.
Truth. The few times I paid up front resulted in a crappy session. If it comes up just explain you always pay after and she's free to leave. They never do.
Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise?
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.
What's your opinion?
Black Page
11-08-18, 17:37
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.Maybe you have still to learn from experience that, if something goes REALLY wrong, you cannot make her to leave on your command and you are in trouble.
Mr Enternational
11-08-18, 19:26
Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise? I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking. What's your opinion?Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.
Maybe you have still to learn from experience that, if something goes REALLY wrong, you cannot make her to leave on your command and you are in trouble.I was thinking what if you like her on the picture and when you arrive or she arrives, she is not what you expected. Wouldn't be akward to tell her, you not the girl I thought here is some money for taxi and ciao?
Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.Please don't mince words! -.
El Mechanico
11-09-18, 16:26
Yeah. I don't think you have much experience, not only in mongering, but also in life. Never break up with or give a woman any type of bad news in your place. That way when she goes on a rampage and starts tearing shit up then it ain't your shit that she is breaking.So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!
You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
El MEchanico.
Hasideas Tao
11-09-18, 17:04
It is called social netowrking because that is what it is. Be social and you will network.
If you get a paid profile here so you can receive private messages, that will help boost your social activity in the areas you desire.
Hi all,
Looks like lots of members here were highly successful in connecting with women on Facebook, for action. I tried to search FB using all kinds of search terms, without much success.
Any pointers you guys can share how to look for women on FB in Medellin for fun.
Thanks much.
So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!
You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
El MEchanico.Yes, El Mechanico, I was more thinking about having field advantage in the city I will visit for the first time.
Thanks for your input.
I will have to kindly ignore other negative comments.
The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.
Frank Herbert.
Do you guys prefer prepago coming to your place or otherwise?
I feel that if something goes wrong she can always leave and you don't have to do the walking.
What's your opinion?There are 3 options: your place, her place, or a neutral place.
Your place. Depending on where you are staying, your place isn't always an option. Your place might not have a safe place to store your valuables, or might not have any security.
Her place. If she has a place she'll invite you to, in Medellin, she's probably working out of an apartment being used as a casa. Most of the girls do not live in a place where they would be comfortable inviting you, or where you would be comfortable going.
Neutral place. The most common option is a love motel. This will add from 16 k to 100 k to your cost, but might be worth it.
I never meet a girl at my place the first time. I meet in a bar, restaurant, at the metro station, or on the street outside of my place. If anything goes wrong, I can walk away, or hand her taxi money and send her packing.
Black Page
11-09-18, 17:54
Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:
http://atencionalcliente.movistar.co/Proteccion_al_usuario/No_al_hurto_de_terminales/
I would like to understand the following.
1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
2) Same question for a mobile wifi router (MIFI), which I use with a SIM card with a data plan (Claro, usually).
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).
I hope to fix everything online or on phone before travelling. Thanks!
So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
You take a chance either way. Sh*t can go south in a heartbeat. At your hotel, at her hotel, your apt or her apt. Point is be vigilant, be careful, be cognizant, be aware, trust your gut and always have an exit strategy.
Even a girl you know can go south. One visit she's pristine and adorable then the next she's been on drugs for six months. But we are talking about phone order prepagos so yes, screening, gut feel, communication and be ready to disengage before she gets in a taxi. I would imagine she would send photos through wpp for verification and usually you can tell if she's attentive and polite. Short term hotels are an option for strangers or prepagos but that is a hassle as well unless it's safe walking distance from your apartment. The idea is not to work too hard, stress or go out of one's way. It's easier, less time consuming and about the same cost just to go to casas and strip clubs even Gusto or Lleres at night but naturally people want girls to come to the apartment they are spending so much money to rent. For daytime, if a newbie, I would just go to casas. There's always two or three with a good group and that's enough for daytime action if you don't have a base. Don't be greedy. Go out, find a perfect 6 and enjoy the rest of your day after you banged a girl for $25.
If one is coming every month or two the strategy changes and you invest building your book by going out and meeting girls in venues like the strip clubs, get their number, talk to them later. But if you are just coming for a trial and don't have a base sometimes you have to accept risk but I doubt there is that much risk with a prepago if you screen properly. But if you have an apartment without security you have to be more protective.
Night time action seems more murky for the first timers. Absent a base from Facebook or staying at the Mansion what are the options? Strip clubs, Gusto, Nancy's place (Casa Piedro?) ? I would say Centro strip clubs as well. I've never needed to go to Centro at night but it works for some people. The problem for one new to Medellin is that Centro at night is probably intimidating and I believe you have to leave with the girl and rent a hotel room or take her to your place.
FWIW I always make a girl I do not know well take a yellow taxi, never uber. I pay the extra to make sure whoever she arrives with is not a potential accomplice.
Mr Enternational
11-09-18, 18:12
So always go to her apt, someone you've never met, in a foreign country, in a city you are unfamiliar with, in a language that is not your first language and take the risk of having her or her novio or crew waiting for you in the other room to rob / drug / beat you. Hmmmmmm!No. Just go outside before you tell her something that she may not like. When you are with a chick that you came to no specific price with then walk them outside before you pay them, unlike the guy in Sosua last week.
I am on the side of you never know. But after a couple thousand chicks I have only had problems with less than 10. And none of those involved some boyfriend or crew trying to rob me.
Horny Goats
11-09-18, 20:29
I've never needed to go to Centro at night but it works for some people. The problem for one new to Medellin is that Centro at night is probably intimidating and I believe you have to leave with the girl and rent a hotel room or take her to your place.I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.
MedellinGringo
11-10-18, 09:58
Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:
http://atencionalcliente.movistar.co/Proteccion_al_usuario/No_al_hurto_de_terminales/
I would like to understand the following.
1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
2) Same question for a mobile wifi router (MIFI), which I use with a SIM card with a data plan (Claro, usually).
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).
I hope to fix everything online or on phone before travelling. Thanks!There are no shops selling SIMs after 11 pm.
And there really isn't any reason to purchase a SIM card anyway.
If you have international data roaming. You have everything you need to communicate with women.
Just add them to your whatsapp and use it to write and call them. Or you can do the same using facebook and messenger.
Black Page
11-10-18, 10:39
There are no shops selling SIMs after 11 pm.
And there really isn't any reason to purchase a SIM card anyway.
If you have international data roaming. You have everything you need to communicate with women.
Just add them to your whatsapp and use it to write and call them. Or you can do the same using facebook and messenger.Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.
1) I always use an old GSM Nokia dualband phone, tried over the years in many countries of Latin America. Maybe bought in Colombia many years ago, maybe somewhere else.
I have a Movistar SIM card, which never expires and I am used to top up on my arrival. Do I have a grace period, or on my arrival this phone will not work if the IMEI is not registered? How many days before being blocked as "stolen"?
Last time I used this phone with this SIM card was last June.
3) To register, I understand that a passport number is enough. Correct? (a tourist does not have a cedula).Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.
I registered over the Internet using a passport number. I was out of the country when I did it. I use a Claro SIM card.
Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.
Two questions:
1. Why don't you put a data plan on the Colombian SIM card and be done with it? It's not expensive.
2. Why not upgrade your 50 k phone so you don't have to deal with the mifi? Your phone you use at home is no more likely to be stolen than the cheap phone you use in Colombia, assuming your 15 years of experience means you know better than to flaunt it.
Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.
Dear all,
I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?
I am now struggling with the problem of IMEI registration.
Yes, I RTFF and I have read several posts on this topic. All wanted to help, but I noted some confusion of terms and some contradictions.
I think the only way is to call the service line of an operator, but still I hope that someone here has survived this ordeal and has fresh information and updates to provide.
Some detailed information is posted here, which is my current best source of information:.At first I got UK Three (one year 12 gb service) for like 50 bucks. It didn't work for me with an unlocked iPhone.
I then went to a cell shop to buy a tigo sim card and then to gana to fill it up. I knew that my phone would be denied service eventually if I didn't register it (I think the grace period is over a week). I went on the tigo website and just registered my phone with my passport ID number. I also needed the invoice that proved that I bought my phone (good thing apple emails you a receipt). I pulled that sucker up and registered it then got a text message that said my registration was completed OK within a few minutes.
I think this was the URL.
https://www.tigo.com.co/atencion-al-cliente/registra-tu-equipo
Since I was just in Colombia for a week, I don't know for sure if my phone will get blocked when I return to Colombia though. I didn't need a photo of my passport or anything like that.
I did the halloween one week trip.
Before / During Halloween:
New life: 6's and below. Use to be only 8's and 9's, not sure what happened. Was very confused as there was even a very overweight girl working. If I meet these girls in a club, I'd prob pass. Every time I went there were like 5 guys hanging out there. I really don't like to go after another guy on the same day. I get more starfishes. I figure there were no 8's and 9's and if there were they had already been used up. I went in the morning, afternoon and night and it was the same. Tons of guys waiting and a bunch of 6's or below.
Divi group: also 6's and below except for one 7. I had her like 4 times because there wasn't enough options. Also was getting charged 45 k but got some kind of 10 punch card thing where the 10th is free or something.
Photoprepagos: I know I was suppose to wait outside and have the girl greet me to make sure it was not a bait and switch but she insisted I greet her inside her bedroom. I went up and meet a 5 or 6. I gave her the money up front and she left the room for like 10 minutes. She came back and started. I paid 20 k extra for a really bad BBBJ, then when I went in, she looked like she was in pain. I figure she had been working hard for days. I finished fast and she left the room and came back after like 15 minutes. I was pretty unfulfilled but wanted to try photoprepagos again. My sample size was small.
Facebook: I hooked up with a facebook girl Paula Andrea Garcia. I feel like she's a 9 in her facebook photos and her face looks almost exactly like her in real life. She was def not a starfish and she had the best moves I've seen in Medellin but she does have a little loose skin around her belly area (baby damage probably). Damage was 200 k plus cab (gave her 50 k, she was happy with that).
After Halloween:
New life: I went in right when it opened figuring maybe I'll get a unused 7 or something. I didn't see any guys waiting. I was then greeted with a few 8's and what I'd consider a 9 but most of you guys would consider 7's and 8's. I went back in the afternoon and night and the other times I was greeted with 8's and 9's. I was pretty happy with new life for the rest of the trip since I only had a few days after Halloween.
I guess the moral of this story was every monger goes out on Halloween and most girls either go to parties or take their kids out for trick or treating or day of the dead stuff or something. Prob going to skip out on holiday mongering from now on.
Street girls: so I passed by what I thought was a new location for street girls on an uber ride but couldn't speak Spanish so couldn't get dropped off quick to investigate.
Black Page
11-10-18, 19:58
Most, and maybe all, carriers give you a grace period, although it is short like 48 hours. If you were there in June and did not have any problems, you should not have any problems now. The registration enforcement has been going on for a while. It is primarily for new sim cards, and when you move the sim card to a different phone.
I think you have to have your passport, or a copy, to register; not just the number.I have an update, maybe useful to others.
I followed the procedure on the Movistar web site to register the IMEI of the old Nokia GSM phone. It asked lots of info, but the invoice of purchase is optional. I was able to enter my foreign passport number, specifying the city and country of issuance (I do not plan to organize any illegal activity using this phone, so I am not concerned about this), but I had to enter an address of Colombia. I entered a hotel in Medellin. I got a receipt, but no ACK by email yet.
Then I spent half an hour trying to contact the linea of atencion al cliente of Movistar. Finally, a very nice lady responded. She said:
1) My name is not associated to the SIM card, which is registered under the name of some Colombian. Of course, he must be the owner of the shop where I bought it many years ago. I should go to a Movistar office to register it, but of course I will not, as it seems not necessary.
2) The IMEI was successfully registered today on the web site. So, at least this problem should be solved.
3) She suggested to top up my SIM card using the Movistar web site.
I tried to top up on the Movistar web site. My card was charged for 20 k COP, but the recarga was not successful. WTF! It says it will keep trying later. I hope it will work.
The MIFI should not need to be registered, as it comes from an operator of my country (branded equipment). At least, this is stated on the FAQ of the Movistar web site. I hope this is true.
MedellinGringo
11-10-18, 23:12
Thank you for the 11 pm info.
For the rest, I don't want international data roaming, as my operator is too expensive. I don't want to change sim card on my phone. I connect to the wifi of my MIFI, with local SIM card.
I am very experienced with being online on wifi and roaming. I have been travelling in all the world since 15 years.
And of course, not everybody uses WA. I DO NEED a local SIM card for SMS and local calls, on my second phone.
Needless to mention, I don't bring my smart phone with me when I go out in Centro, night or day. I use a GSM phone which costs less than 50 k.Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
I only use a Colombia cell to call landlines when I'm away from my apartment.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.
Google fi is a lot faster than T-Mobile here.
Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.
Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
I only use a Colombia cell to call landlines when I'm away from my apartment.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.
Google fi is a lot faster than T-Mobile here.
I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.Are we talking night time action? Where do you like to go. I was under the impression that the three major strip clubs I read about have short term hotels close but I think that would be too much for those newer to the MDE scene.
MedellinGringo
11-11-18, 07:47
Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.I use google fi right now because T-mobile cut off my data service for being out of the country too long.
They did me a big favor. Google fi is faster than T-mobile but not quite as fast as having data from Claro or Movistar.
I like Google Fi because it is fast enough to have skype or whatsapp calls and calls to the USA Are free if connected to WIFI or 20 cents to call or receive calls from the USA If not connected to WIFI.
Google Fi also gives you a data only SIM that you can use in an other device. I use it in my Ipad that I keep in my car. It works great to stream music. But it cut out on me a few times driving to the airport so coverage for the data only SIM isn't as good as the phone it seems.
I use about 12 GB a month and pay 60 bucks plus tax for the data portion of my phone bill. Google charges 10 bucks per GB up until 6 GB and it is free after that.
I haven't checked what Claro or Movistar charge for 12 GBs of data but I don't think they offer free calls to the USA When connected to WIFI.
The down side to using a USA Phone is Colombia is there is no good way to call local landlines or to call cell phones that are not on whatsapp.
I don't know a single chick here that doesn't have whatsapp but sometimes they don't buy data and aren't connected to the internet so that is a drawback.
I can text their phones for free with Google Fi but they can't can't respond. But at least they know to get to WIFI so we can communicate.
I agree. The thing is that Gusto was great 3 to 5 years ago. It's just gotten really bad the past couple years. I think guys think it's close, convenient, and familiar so they go.
My thoughts exactly! I have said it before that I have been in Gusto's about 4 or 5 times in the past 2 or 3 years, each time spending 3 to 5 hours, so not just a quick walk through, and I went on weekend nights, I have never seen a girl above a 7, period! And none interested me, none! I too am baffled why this club even gets mentioned at all.
IMHO!
The Tall Man.
NatyMedallo
11-11-18, 08:35
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Black Page
11-11-18, 16:58
Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
Two questions:
1. Why don't you put a data plan on the Colombian SIM card and be done with it? It's not expensive.As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
1) my regular smart phone, with the regular SIM card of my country, without roaming but always connected to the 4G portable wifi router (a.k.a. MIFI), in which I put a Colombia SIM card with data plan (Claro usually);
2) a cheap GSM phone for local calls and SMS, in which I put my Movistar SIM card which I have been using for years already, without data plan.
Why I don't put a Colombian SIM card in my smart phone? Because I want to receive calls (I call back) and sms to my usual home country number. I need to be reachable.
Why I still use the old cheap GSM phone for calling and I do not upgrade it to something more modern? Because "no dar papaya" is my motto. I need such a cheap phone. I never take a smartphone with me when at night I go outside of Poblado.
2. Why not upgrade your 50 k phone so you don't have to deal with the mifi? Your phone you use at home is no more likely to be stolen than the cheap phone you use in Colombia, assuming your 15 years of experience means you know better than to flaunt it.The answer is obvious, since you must have the same 15 years of experience as me travelling around the world.
YES, a Samsung S7 Edge will attract more attention in a street of Raudal than a "flecha" (popular name for the old Nokia GSM phone, because "Incluso los indios de la selva utilizan un telefono como eso"). NO DAR PAPAYA. There must be a reason if I dare to walk around alone in Centro well after midnight, at times (and the only time I was robbered I lost 50 k and no more than that).
I use the smartphone (with my home country SIM card, to be reachable on my usual number) connected to the MIFI when I am in a reasonably safe zone (I play Pokemon Go in Poblado). I leave it at home and I use the GSM phone at night.
I registered over the Internet using a passport number. I was out of the country when I did it. I use a Claro SIM card.YES, correct.
I understand that, after writing this, you must have read my other update report http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2247168&viewfull=1#post2247168 where I explained that I did the same, but on the Movistar web site.
I went on the tigo website and just registered my phone with my passport ID number. I also needed the invoice that proved that I bought my phone (good thing apple emails you a receipt). I pulled that sucker up and registered it then got a text message that said my registration was completed OK within a few minutes.On the Movistar web site, the invoice copy is optional and I was able to register the IMEI by just giving the passport number.
As I explained, I did not receive ANY acknowledgment from Movistar that my IMEI was correctly registered, but I called the Customer Care line (with some difficulty) and the lady confirmed that the registration was successful.
Yeah data and WhatsApp what do you any good if you don't have a smart phone jajaja.
It's been a long time since a Colombian gave me a cell number that I couldn't call with WhatsApp.
For those that don't know data roaming is free in Colombia if you have T-Mobile or google fi.Dear MG, I am sure you will not be surprised to hear that:
1) I do NOT give my usual phone number, registered on WA, to ANYONE I meet in streets. I give it only to selected people.
I give my Colombian Movistar cell phone number, instead, to casual acquaitances, including girls from clubs and streets.
2) I have the impression that your target is limited to girls above some social level jajaja. My scope is more inclusive, so to speak. Some girl I met in Centro called me from a street "minutos", as she did not even have a phone.
3) Regular girls I like to meet at night have a smartphone and use WA. Yes. But if I go out at night, I know I may start my night in a club, but I don't know where I will end up. 6 months ago (duly reported), I started from a swinger club at 12, I met a girl and played there, at 3 am we went out, at 4 am we were in a sketchy amanecero north of Prado (about 2 metro stations after Prado), at 5 am we ended in a love motel. I would be crazy to venture in an amanecero I don't know, with a lady I met 3 hours before, in an area where there are not even homeless people, with a Samsung S7 above.
Finally, my Operator is Vodafone and they charge roaming outside Europe TOO MUCH. Should I change operator? There are advantages and disadvantages.
Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
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3) Regular girls I like to meet at night have a smartphone and use WA. Yes. But if I go out at night, I know I may start my night in a club, but I don't know where I will end up. 6 months ago (duly reported), I started from a swinger club at 12, I met a girl and played there, at 3 am we went out, at 4 am we were in a sketchy amanecero north of Prado (about 2 metro stations after Prado), at 5 am we ended in a love motel. I would be crazy to venture in an amanecero I don't know, with a lady I met 3 hours before, in an area where there are not even homeless people, with a Samsung S7 above.Why not sort this out via PM with someone already willing to help you? It's obviously a one-off problem that the rest of us don't need to remedy.
Black Page
11-11-18, 17:29
Why not sort this out via PM with someone already willing to help you? It's obviously a one-off problem that the rest of us don't need to remedy.The excess of OOT chit chat is an old issue of this thread, apparently impossible to solve. I will stop, point taken, but the need to register the IMEI cannot be named "a one-off problem". ANYONE using a phone in Colombia with a local SIM card needs to register, or may have the phone blocked in Colombia. It's a big headache for most of us, I believe (unless we go for roaming, or we go buy a phone in the shop of a Colombian operator). We must be aware of it, and know how to get rid of that.
A dual SIM phone can be useful for you. I consider it a must for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. I hear even Apple is about to release a dual SIM version, 10 years after other mobile platforms like every other feature. It eliminates the need to carry and use multiple phones. For those interested in modern conveniences.
Ok, several comments made. I reply one after the other.
As I wrote before (I am not arguing my posts are a must read... LOL), I use two phones in Colombia (and in other countries with safety issues):
1) my regular smart phone, with the regular SIM card of my country, without roaming but always connected to the 4G portable wifi router (a.k.a. MIFI), in which I put a Colombia SIM card with data plan (Claro usually);
2) a cheap GSM phone for local calls and SMS, in which I put my Movistar SIM card which I have been using for years already, without data plan.
Why I don't put a Colombian SIM card in my smart phone? Because I want to receive calls (I call back) and sms to my usual home country number. I need to be reachable.
Why I still use the old cheap GSM phone for calling and I do not upgrade it to something more modern? Because "no dar papaya" is my motto. I need such a cheap phone. I never take a smartphone with me when at night I go outside of Poblado..
Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
Even a girl you know can go south. One visit she's pristine and adorable then the next she's been on drugs for six months. But we are talking about phone order prepagos so yes, screening, gut feel, communication and be ready to disengage before she gets in a taxi. I would imagine she would send photos through wpp for verification and usually you can tell if she's attentive and polite. Short term hotels are an option for strangers or prepagos but that is a hassle as well unless it's safe walking distance from your apartment. The idea is not to work too hard, stress or go out of one's way. It's easier, less time consuming and about the same cost just to go to casas and strip clubs even Gusto or Lleres at night but naturally people want girls to come to the apartment they are spending so much money to rent. For daytime, if a newbie, I would just go to casas. There's always two or three with a good group and that's enough for daytime action if you don't have a base. Don't be greedy. Go out, find a perfect 6 and enjoy the rest of your day after you banged a girl for $25..Good advice, thanks.
MaliBog420
11-12-18, 05:06
I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.
+1, I agree 100% on all points.
I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.
TheBiller22
11-13-18, 13:24
I was thinking what if you like her on the picture and when you arrive or she arrives, she is not what you expected. Wouldn't be akward to tell her, you not the girl I thought here is some money for taxi and ciao?Yes that's what I've done in the past. Akward? Definitely but it's not my / your fault if the chick decides to use fake pics or misrepresents her real looks drastically when she knows the decision of meeting up with her was based on mostly looks.
El Mechanico
11-13-18, 15:59
Right. A condescending comment without advice is useless. It was obvious the OP was looking for help. The-know-it-alls could shorten their comments to "I'm so smart".
You sound like you are pretty smart!! If you will go back and reread my post. Maybe a little slower this time. You will see I am replying to MrEnternational, not the OP. If fact, it seems like, and I may be misinterpreting his response, but a few posts later, the OP thanked me.
El Mechanico.
A dual SIM phone can be useful for you. I consider it a must for anyone who travels internationally on a regular basis. I hear even Apple is about to release a dual SIM version, 10 years after other mobile platforms like every other feature. It eliminates the need to carry and use multiple phones. For those interested in modern conveniences.The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 17:04
You sound like you are pretty smart!! If you will go back and reread my post. Maybe a little slower this time. You will see I am replying to MrEnternational, not the OP. If fact, it seems like, and I may be misinterpreting his response, but a few posts later, the OP thanked me.
El Mechanico.I think Chicafan was agreeing with you and referring to me.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
That's the truth!
Seems to be an actual, all day hangout spot now, LOL.
I picked a girl, went back to the room with her, she started with all this fake, "oh baby, oh baby, you so good" blah blah.
I told her to stop it, that I didn't need all the fake talk, and to just go with the flow.
She was pretty hot, but mechanical and fake, tried to upsell BBBJ at 50 kp.
I almost left the room, but just got it done and left.
I won't be back there for a bit.
I'll stick with my stable of amigas, and hunt for for new, non-spoiled newbies.
Off to Brazil though for now!
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 18:05
I picked a girl, went back to the room with her, she started with all this fake, "oh baby, oh baby, you so good" blah blah.
I told her to stop it, that I didn't need all the fake talk, and to just go with the flow.Same shit happened to me in New Life. I guess porn movies work that way on both ends. Men are expecting women to be like they see on porn movies and women are thinking men want the bad acting and fake bodies they see on the same movies.
Although I am sure no one reading this would fall for this but I had an interesting dialog with a chica I met through Facebook. I have not physically met her just messaging back and forth for a couple of weeks. She asked me a strange favor today. She wanted me to send her a copy of my drivers license to compare with a friends license. Said she had a friend in the US that claims to have a valid license but was told it was fake. I played along and she sent me a copy of her friend's license. It was a license but a French license. She asked for mine and I said no. I asked her why her friend as a French license in the US? She said she didn't know. Anyway just passing the information along. Always be on guard.
El Mechanico
11-13-18, 22:10
I think Chicafan was agreeing with you and referring to me.I'll delete my post as it served no purpose anyway! I tried but I can't seem to delete it!
El Mechanico.
I'm new to mongering, and it will probably always stay a casual by-the-way thing for me while I live in Colombia (although Pattaya one day does sound tempting), but I thought I'd contribute a report (had one free day in Medellín).
Went to Cra 45 57-55 at 1 pm, there were maybe 10-15 girls working, thought that all in all they were pretty attractive, 6-8's, though perhaps most mongers' standards here are more exacting. Chose a tall, highly attractive Costeña with a nice butt called Paola, paid 75 k for an hour. She did ask me to pay 5 k for a beer but she was very customer service-minded and warm, she received anal, beso negro and cunningulus on top of regular service, only asking for a tip. Gave her 20 k as a propina, although I would have given less if I had the change before you guys scream at me.
Anyway, highly recommend the place and the girl.
Now, a question. Would you guys risk cunningulus with these girls? Have you veterans ever had any STDs because of it?
The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.I always add something to the contact to help me identify the person. Fellow members get ISG added to the contact. Chicas get the source of the contact added. FB, Tinder, SA, etc. When a message pops up, there's no confusion about who I'm talking to. I do the same thing with business contacts. So, if I get a call from Jim at ABC company, I don't have to spend 10 seconds figuring out which Jim I'm talking to.
Huawei makes an excellent dual SIM phone that's available in Colombia. It's comparable to the Samsung S7 at about half the price.
Mr Enternational
11-13-18, 22:55
She wanted me to send her a copy of my drivers license to compare with a friends license. Said she had a friend in the US that claims to have a valid license but was told it was fake. I played along and she sent me a copy of her friend's license. It was a license but a French license. She asked for mine and I said no. I asked her why her friend as a French license in the US? She said she didn't know. Anyway just passing the information along. Always be on guard.Never know. I have a Thai license in the US. Went to a club in Vegas once and dude would not let me in. He had a book with ids from around the world. Since I don't have a Thai visa I get a temporary license every 2 years which has a different color at the top and says temporary instead of permanent as the 5 year one does which you need a visa for. Only the permanent one was in the book so he thought mine was fake. Besides that I was like 40 at the time. What I look like trying to get in the club with a fake ID?
Skrillasun
11-13-18, 23:38
So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.
I'm confused, are you worried the monger contacts will be able to communicate with the non monger contacts through your phone? If get it if you mean somebody else has access to your phone who you don't want to see monger contacts.
The problem is app support. You are going to mix monger contacts with regular contacts with only a single phone.
I'm confused, are you worried the monger contacts will be able to communicate with the non monger contacts through your phone? If get it if you mean somebody else has access to your phone who you don't want to see monger contacts.Yes, I mean someone else has access to my phone. They can easily see the contact, pictures or know where I work. These are something that I would rather not share with someone I just met.
So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.
Here's a pro tip: A girl that really likes you will get extremely pissed off if you try to pay her for sex. A girl who you grossly overpay for sex will really like getting paid to have sex with you.
....................New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos........................Ten years ago I would be the only non-Colombian there and most days the only hobbyist there. Girls were more or less the same but occasionally you would see an outstanding beauty. The hottest girl I've ever sessioned was at New Life circa 2009/2010. More gringos there now thanks to ISG.
El Mechanico
11-14-18, 16:29
So, I'mNow I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.Congrats Skrillasun, If this had happened to me I would simply enjoy the experience, hope to see her next trip & wait for the RFM!!
El Mechanico.
Hasideas Tao
11-14-18, 17:38
I live in Medellin but I'm a huge fan of Centro. I've never had any problems.
All the clubs I've been to have rooms onsite. You don't need to leave with the girl.I agree. However, there are good options. Close to all the centro strip clubs are love motels. Some actually pretty decent!
ON a week night, when the clubs close at 2 am (sometimes earlier) I have always had a pretty easy time finding a girl I liked for 100 cop and was willing to hang out back at my place or a nearby hotel for a little while. I've actually had many great experiences this way with only a few duds.
Hasideas Tao
11-14-18, 17:49
Cool. Good for you. It happens more often than many would guess. Get a paid membership so we can private message.
So, I'm fairly new to mongering so I was curious about this situation and figured I would seek out some advice / perspective from some pros.
I was in Medellin last month and met a cool chica when I was there she is like a 7.5 but her personality is like an 11/10, we hit it off the first night. I think I paid 125 US and she spent the night at my place. Woke up around 10 and she paid for her own cab home. She messaged me the next night to see what I was doing, I told her I was just chilling with some friends and if she wanted to come and "not work" she was more than welcome. She was there 30 minutes later. We bar hopped for a few hours and then went back to my place. When we got back she was ready for some action, we never discussed money and she spent the night again. We woke up the next morning and to my surprise she said that she wasn't charging me and that she wanted to come see me. I gave her 100.000 cop for her cab home but she said I didn't have to do that. She kissed me on the cheek and left. Now I'm not trying to toot my own horn (maybe a little) but, was this a once in a lifetime experience? Did she genuinely just like me and wanted to chill? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I be wary about anything? She contacts me nearly everyday since I left just to tell me about her day / send me pics etc. I'm still confused by it all and I can't stop thinking about it.
Cheers,
Thanks for reading.
Cool. Good for you. It happens more often than many would guess. Get a paid membership so we can private message.Yes, it does happens but some degree of caution should be utilized because could be a smart move on her part to lure you in where she can set you up for the big pay day later.
So on my way back from Medellin to feminist Europe, I decided to spend a couple of days stay in sunny Miami (MIA was the only place I found with direct flights to MDE from you. S). I am a hip hop fan so I figured I wanted to see what "King of Diamonds" is all about. I was surprised the door keepers were carrying firearms there but it also made feel safer once inside. The club was gigantic and beautiful but girls were below average, maybe I came on a slow day. Anyways I drove off to this place called Tootsie's Cabaret, I'm sure you guys in MIA know this place. The girls here are smoking hot here, as if it was handpicked to my liking. But I was just checking out the club. There I met guy complaining that girl had just scammed him for almost $400 USD. After the lapdance a cuben girl told him they could have sex in the privat room even though there are signs everywhere saying its illegal. He was also tourist and believed maybe it is true. Inside the room she just wasted time with lap dancing and using almost 10 minutes just to get undressed, long story short after 30 minutes the guy didn't get no sex and time for the room was up. I told him to complain to security, but then again its illegal act so what can he really say. I was shocked to hear it. Is this a known scam miami or do some girls have actually have sex in the privat room?
Anyways I am planning to go back to MDE in December but afraid it may slow since it is catholic country and girls might leave town. Anyone can confirm this?
What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.
Here's a pro tip: A girl that really likes you will get extremely pissed off if you try to pay her for sex. A girl who you grossly overpay for sex will really like getting paid to have sex with you.What he doesn't understand is in 2 nights he paid her her monthly salary.
ColombiaLover
11-14-18, 20:34
It depends on when you go in December. There are many chicas to be had before Christmas, as most all of them have saved nothing and now need to buy Christmas presents, food, and new clothes.
The week between Christmas and new years can be tough, as many chicas either go out of town with family or stay home If you already have your list, you can find some of them who will come to see you. If you are a relative newbie and do not have much of a list, then it might be tougher. You can always find it, but it may not be as easy or to the standards you like.
Things start to return to normal after new year's. Many of the girls are still on vacation (of course, some of them are on 24/7 vacation anyway). But it's back to reality. The January bills are due. University tuition will be due soon.
I always head down there after Christmas and stay until well after new year's and never have a problem. I actually like it because there are not many gringos. And personally, I don't go to Colombia for the gringos, so I try to avoid the places where they hang out. I prefer places where I am the only gringo.
Anyways I am planning to go back to MDE in December but afraid it may slow since it is catholic country and girls might leave town. Anyone can confirm this?
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?
It depends on when you go in December.
I always head down there after Christmas and stay until well after new year's and never have a problem. I actually like it because there are not many gringos. And personally, I don't go to Colombia for the gringos, so I try to avoid the places where they hang out. I prefer places where I am the only gringo.
Dr CoolHand
11-15-18, 01:21
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?No Sir, sorry. Definitely not. Given the fact, that the 1st (Tue) and the 7th (Mon) are holidays, the business will go back to normal after the 8th of January. But then the girls are in real need of support, hence highly motivated.
SpiderRider
11-15-18, 02:47
A taxi driver told me of a casa called "venezolanas" , other drivers did not know. I believe it is all hours. Anyone know of it? Sorry if I overlooked and obvious prior posts. Regards.
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?Christmas Eve and Christmas day are difficult. I only had 2 girls hit me up to see if I was interested on those days. Things were pretty slow around Parque Lleras on those days as well. It didn't help that I was staying in a non-chica friendly hotel those days since my roommate's entire family came to Medellin for Christmas. A few days after Christmas Club Fahrenheit was slow. Less than half full and probably only 15 working girls in the crowd.
The thing is, if you're willing to look, you can always find someone to keep you company in Medellin.
I think you might mean the one in Floresta near the metro.
I ran out of time the day I was going to try it. I hear it more hit than miss. Let us know how you make out.
A taxi driver told me of a casa called "venezolanas" , other drivers did not know. I believe it is all hours. Anyone know of it? Sorry if I overlooked and obvious prior posts. Regards.
Use the single SIM phone at home and travel with the dual SIM phone. You can just add your home SIM to the dual SIM phone with the Colombia SIM. This way you would only have to use one phone at a time whether your are traveling or you are at home.
Yes, I mean someone else has access to my phone. They can easily see the contact, pictures or know where I work. These are something that I would rather not share with someone I just met.
Blue Touch
11-15-18, 05:00
I agree with all the descriptions.
I figured its about time I added some info rather than just requesting.
Here is an overview my impression of the casa scene in centro.
New Life. Seems to be crawling with gringos. Lots of girls but (for my taste) way too many gringos.
Zandalay. Good rooms, decent atmosphere and good girls.
Chicas punto com. Big selection. Always 1 or two worth the visit. Rooms not great.
Dulce Compania. Not a great selection when I went.
New place around the corner from new life on carrera 43 (go out door of new life. Take right + take next right and its 50 ft or so down the st) - worth a visit. One or two gems and nice rooms.
What's so confusing? The first night you paid her enough for 2 nights and the 2nd night you gave her enough money for a taxi to fly to Cartagena. Of course she's going to contact you every day. You're bleeding money and she wants to be around to soak it up.When you add the two nights together, he actually got a pretty good deal. I agree he overpaid for the first night, but underpaid for the second. Less than 250 mil for TLN is a good deal.
TheBiller22
11-15-18, 17:13
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.
SpiderRider
11-15-18, 18:27
I think you might mean the one in Floresta near the metro.
I ran out of time the day I was going to try it. I hear it more hit than miss. Let us know how you make out.I'm living near floresta station. I'd love to have an address, I could probably walk there.
SpiderRider
11-15-18, 18:33
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.Just ask them about work. If they have no job, or a simple service type job (waitress, retail, etc.) you're probably golden. If they work for a large bank, physician's office, or have a successful family business, for examples, you might want to look elsewhere.
SlapShot10
11-15-18, 20:16
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?I've done a post-Christmas / New Year's trip, twice. MDE then CTG and CTG then MDE. I would recommend going to CTG for the week after Christmas, as it becomes a holiday destination for Colombians and WGs, alike. Then, as MDE picks back up, take a cheap flight. Caveat being, CTG is more expensive, in general, and even more so during high-season / holidays. I prefer having a beer by the Clock Tower (CTG) and people-watching, during slow times, over scouring FB or hopping empty bar to empty bar in MDE, during Finca week. CTG is, essentially, more concentrated for a first-timer or newbie, at that time of year. I prefer MDE, but that week is unique, in my opinion.
Horny Goats
11-16-18, 00:34
Just got back in town after three plus weeks in Bolivia and Belize on business. If you want to waste your time, or simply feel good about Medellin, check out my Bolivia reports. Man, it's good to be back. Every time I leave for an extended period of time, I convince myself the girls here can't be as hot as I'm remembering them. And every time I'm wrong.
New Life. I went to New Life on Saturday afternoon. It was my first time there, not sure why. I couldn't believe the number of gringos; the place was packed. I wasn't overly impressed with the lineup, out of the 10 or so girls I only liked two. I chose Camila after I remembered reading something positive about her on this forum. She was good, great natural tits, nice face, good ass, although I have to say her body was a little hairy, which is a turnoff, especially from behind. But overall a pleasant session; she did everything I wanted. Not sure I would go back any time soon, although as I say the place was packed so I'm sure some of the talent was already busy, and the price was certainly right. 54 K and that included the beer.
Tantra. I went to Tantra today. Solid lineup; of the 8 or so I did not like only two. Chose a 20-year-old chica named Mariana with a great natural body and beautiful face. She gave a lazy ass blowjob and she was a little uppity, but she was friendly and did as requested. I paid a small propina to tittyfuck her without a condom and came on her face, and she was cool with it. I left very satisfied. Standard 130 K plus 20 K propina for an hour.
Tantra and Energy remain my go-to massage places, and I know a lot of the members on this forum agree with that.
Politely tell them that you do not want to offend them but would like to spend time with them and give them a gift. What would be an appropriate gift.
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.I found, after making over 150 facebook friends with chicas, that I've refined my introduction and pitch to such a degree that usually now I just copy and paste the same phrases over and over.
1. When you find a girl to your liking, friend her and send her a short message about how your visiting Colombia and would like to meet them.
2. About 40% will respond to your message. If they're super enthusiastic and immediately agree right off the bat then you've struck prepago gold and can safely move on to step 5. Otherwise, make some small talk (How are you, I like your photos, you seem fun, etc.) and maybe tell them a little about yourself to put them at ease.
3. Close out the conversation by saying how you think we could have a good time together.
4. If they respond positively, tell them you'll message them again when you arrive. If they're not interested then they'll probably just ghost you at this point. A few will play dumb and ask what you mean, in which case it's time to say explicitly that you want to sleep with them. You may think this is crass but you're here for booty, not to make friends.
5. Once in Medellin or wherever message them again asking if they'd like to come to your apartment or hotel at a certain time.
6. If they're willing to come to a stranger's apartment "for a good time" then you're 99% certain at this point that they're doing it for money. This is when I make my usual pitch of 150 mil for an hour plus bbj. I've had counter offers, and some girls refuse to bbj, but I've never had anyone get mad or insulted. I know some members here prefer not to mention money or expectations beforehand and just go with the flow but I feel you save yourself some headaches ironing everything out in advance. Last thing you want is some diva demanding $200 and threatening to make a scene.
Christmas Eve and Christmas day are difficult. I only had 2 girls hit me up to see if I was interested on those days. Things were pretty slow around Parque Lleras on those days as well. It didn't help that I was staying in a non-chica friendly hotel those days since my roommate's entire family came to Medellin for Christmas. A few days after Christmas Club Fahrenheit was slow. Less than half full and probably only 15 working girls in the crowd.
The thing is, if you're willing to look, you can always find someone to keep you company in Medellin.Thanks I will consider postponing this as many here agree one to two weeks will be slow this upcoming holidays. With paises already being flaky and then you add holidays to equation it could be a dead end. I have some contacts but prefer all the options on the table.
ColombiaLover
11-16-18, 03:39
The time before Navidad should be pretty good, as girls will be scrambling for money for gifts. The week between Christmas and New Years will be a little tougher. Some girls will go out of town and some will just hang will families. There are always chicas to be had, it's just not as easy. Then it picks back up after New Year's Day.
You can have a good time in Parque Lleras for New Year's Eve (or La 33 or La 70). Maybe in those days between Christmas and New Years you can actually do something besides fucking like riding the metro cable or visiting the Museum to see the Boteros or going out of town to do an ATV or bike tour or go to a neighboring small town for some sun and fun.
I am planning from mid December to first week of January that falls right into Christmas season. It would be really a waste of time if a whole week is slow and park illeres and clubs are shut down or no chicas in the premises. Might have to look elsewhere if that's the case. When does it pick up after Christmas, are we talking like 28th?
When talking to a girl on tinder FB cupid there are simple 2 words that will answer your most important question.
"Eres scort?
Simple. If they say no most likely they won't be offended and even if they are just apologize say so many girls are so you had to ask. If they are then you're in.
I was just in Medellin for 2 weeks and it was that simple and the girls who weren't didn't even get offended.
Mr Enternational
11-16-18, 07:07
Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.
When talking to a girl on tinder FB cupid there are simple 2 words that will answer your most important question.
"Eres scort?
Simple. If they say no most likely they won't be offended and even if they are just apologize say so many girls are so you had to ask. If they are then you're in.
I was just in Medellin for 2 weeks and it was that simple and the girls who weren't didn't even get offended.
Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.LMAO! I woulda followed up by apologizing and simply stating that so many girls are telling me they are so I wanted to make sure you're not. LOL. It worked for me and I hooked up with 3 freebies.
Are we talking night time action? Where do you like to go. I was under the impression that the three major strip clubs I read about have short term hotels close but I think that would be too much for those newer to the MDE scene.I 'tried' to try the Centro clubs. They are in shady back streets, people sleeping on the pavements all over (at 5 PM).
The clubs weren't even open yet, it was Sunday. My understanding was they open by 2 or 4.
My hotel guy (in EL Pob) had strictly advised not to go there after dark.
In any case I didn't get get an opportunity to 'actually' try them, but they are definitely in 'shady' streets.
HTH.
Data packages from Tigo, Claro, etc. Are cheaper than most any data roaming deals. Even the free roaming deals from google, T-Mobile and others are throttled at 3 G or less. Some of them give you a small allowance at 4 G or LTE. That doesn't matter for social media and whatsapp but it's a pain in the butt for video streaming or work related applications.I just got a local SIM at the mall. Costed 20 K for 2 GB- not sure of carrier, it showed p as Airtel. Not sure if it was 1 week or unlimited time.
Data worked great, did not use voice (No Espaneol), but for some reason the Texting wouldn't work.
Overall it worked out.
Mr Enternational
11-16-18, 18:45
I 'tried' to try the Centro clubs. They are in shady back streets, people sleeping on the pavements all over (at 5 PM).
The clubs weren't even open yet, it was Sunday. My understanding was they open by 2 or 4.
My hotel guy (in EL Pob) had strictly advised not to go there after dark.
In any case I didn't get get an opportunity to 'actually' try them, but they are definitely in 'shady' streets.LOL. You were scared because there were homeless people? Back streets? They are on main thoroughfares. I don't even know if those clubs are open on Sundays, but on Monday thru Saturday you don't want to go to them before 8 pm. Just like Fase 2, you don't go there until like 11pm. Daytime in Colombia is casa action. People go there when they have lunchtime or a break from work. Night time is nightclub/stripclub action. People go there when they are finished work and want to wind down or party.
TheBiller22
11-16-18, 20:35
I found, after making over 150 facebook friends with chicas, that I've refined my introduction and pitch to such a degree that usually now I just copy and paste the same phrases over and over.
1. When you find a girl to your liking, friend her and send her a short message about how your visiting Colombia and would like to meet them.
2. About 40% will respond to your message. If they're super enthusiastic and immediately agree right off the bat then you've struck prepago gold and can safely move on to step 5. Otherwise, make some small talk (How are you, I like your photos, you seem fun, etc.) and maybe tell them a little about yourself to put them at ease.
3. Close out the conversation by saying how you think we could have a good time together.
4.... Hahah I love the breakdown Talon. Thanks a lot.
So I'm already doing 1-2. 3 is a perfect transition line that I'll start using. I'll definitely get a good feel on what they're thinking. I guess I can gauge their intentions from here since I definitely don't want to tell them I'm just trying to bang and willing to pay LOL. I'm more concern of offending a non-pro, which are worth gold to me haha. I've had what happened to another poster happened to me where a had solid 7's totally stop talking to me once I mentioned the prepago thing and I'm pretty sure they were down haha.
But regardless I think knowing if there is money involved first and, IF there is, finding out how much before anything happens is key to avoid any potential issues.
TheBiller22
11-16-18, 20:45
Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.I can't read your pic but I can only imagine how they responded because I had a bad experience with two girls asking that question too LOL!
I guess that was my next question. How to go about bringing the subject up to a non pro without offending them. Personally I'the prefer a non pro than a pro plus it's free so treating them nicely matters LOL.
I guess my last resort would be what Sangnyc21 suggested and try to play it off some how (probably a 50/50 chance there LOL).
When talking to Facebook girls, how do you gentlemen (where applicable) address payment and expectations? I've have several ladies that I'm chatting with that have already said they would like to meet me but I'm afraid if I even mention anything about money some will get offended as many of them don't seem like prepagos. I also don't want to mention it and ruin the possibilities of getting in for free.
I would say I am fairly attractive guy, athletic, and in my 30's.
I will be there for 4 days so I really don't want to risk wasting my time just hanging out with them unless they're willing to bang in the end.I guess in this situation it's a bonus from my Facebook picture that I'm an obvious middle aged gringo. If they friend me at all it pretty much means they're a prepago.
I usually post when I'm going to be in Medellin and / or when I arrive. The ones that that respond or start sending me messages are probably prepagos. If they are ones I'm interested in then I'll respond to them. I've only hit up one girl where she may have not been a prepago. My initial message is something like "I'm looking for a date and wondering if you are available" so it wasn't too awkward when she didn't respond with "si, amor" right away. My next message is usually "what will I owe you for your company?" and I negotiate from there. The response is almost always 150 K + Taxi or 200 K total. I always negotiate the price but not necessarily the exact details. (I may change that). I definitely don't want any drama when it comes time to pay.
Reached last Saturday afternoon.
1st evening at Parqe llera. Lots of Halloween crowd, lost of SWs. Nothing good.
Fase Dos:
Sunday evening 10 pm, thin crowd.
This is strip club, girls dance, come around for collection, girls mingle for solicitation. Atmosphere is good overall, girls 6 -8.
Picked up a chic-Frida (dark skin, slim, bolt Ons, 7) - poor experience service, 190 K. (Beers are 20 K).
Luna Notera:
Wednesday afternoon 4 PM.
This is fuck place (no dancing), girls come and introduce themselves- just name, mostly 5 -8. Beers 15 K.
Picked a chic. Vanessa, slim, natural (As), 7.5- decent+ service, 150 K.
Photoprepagos.
Tried a chic after all the effort, bad experience. Details later.
Will post detailed adventures later.
Thanks.
Sam.Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.
I'm not trying to pick on you, but man you ask a ton of questions. I'll try to answer the latest batch here.
The price at Energy is 150 k for 1 hour full service. Search Fantasias Energy Medellin to find their website.
Loutron is the most expensive casa in Medellin. The price is somewhere in the 300 k range.
New Life is in El Centro at Calle 56 #43-39. It's easy to find, just look for the blue door. Aiffe is another casa a block away. It's at Calle 57 #43-27. It's also easy to find. Just look for the red door.
Hotel M Medellin is the Mansion, or Hotel Medellin Plaza.
There's so much talk about Gusto because some guys consider it the gateway to heaven and others think it's the pit of hell. In reality, it's just another disco, where hookers hang out and hope to find guys willing to overpay.JjBee for the help.
I believe in clarifying / confirming, else how will one know. Especially with all the language issues. And of course new unknown terrain. If not for Q&A one will not indulge in these adventures at all.
Thanks.
Sam.
Well if you are looking for hookers then what does it matter if you tick off a non-pro. But if you are looking for non-pros then let's just say it ain't the best question to ask.Well, there are more diplomatic way of finding out. A simple "que buscas aca" (what are you looking for) should do it. Most prepagadas will tell you.
Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.
I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
This is the area I'm talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!) They don't have to be European model types. To me a pretentious club with skinny barbie girls asking me to buy them champagne is my idea of a nightmare. I'll take a sexy woman with a big smile and a nice rack and ass over that any day!
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated!
Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.Sounds as though you should have stayed at the Mansion.
Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions.
I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
This is the area I'm talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!) They don't have to be European model types. To me a pretentious club with skinny barbie girls asking me to buy them champagne is my idea of a nightmare. I'll take a sexy woman with a big smile and a nice rack and ass over that any day!
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated!Can't answer all your questions since it's been a while since I have been in Medellin. As for curvy girls, the high end ones tend to have young, slim girls (mostly). If you go to cheaper places, you'll see more variety. But regardless of your type, you will find them in Colombia!!
The taxis I rode in were all safe and they are not so expensive. Better to take a taxi than Uber or walk. Enjoy and be sure to post a report!!
Thinking about staying there next trip. Anyone with any experience? I usually stay at Energy living but they are booked up the wazoo at least my favorite units are.
We will be in Medellin February, and March of 2019. Let me know if you would like to join! Newbies welcomed.
You probably have to add a voice package to be able to send and receive text messages. Bring the phone to a mobile store or the reception of your hotel. They will help you.
I just got a local SIM at the mall. Costed 20 K for 2 GB- not sure of carrier, it showed p as Airtel. Not sure if it was 1 week or unlimited time.
Data worked great, did not use voice (No Espaneol), but for some reason the Texting wouldn't work.
Overall it worked out.
The girls are gorgeous do you have contacts for them pm them please? What is the fb scene?
Had an amazing trip to Medellin. This time stayed at Provenza Lofts in Park Lleras instead of mansion. Wanted to do facebook scene. Flight was delayed by half an hour. Landed at 1230 am. My hotel pick up didn't show up. Had to take private taxi as there was no white taxi available at 1 am. Reached hotel at 2 am. Room was very nice.
Met my first girl. Jennifer came over at 230 am. She has very pretty face and most beautiful eyes you can imagine. Pure GFE experience. But she is not slim. She is actually on heavier side, but very curvaceous. I saw her on my last trip also. * so there was an connection and more over she showed up at 230 am. Nobody else would..
I would like to rent a place (on Airbnb probably) in an area with regular Colombian shops / cafes, not too snobby and not rundown. Any recommendations? What about downtown? Someone near the majority of the casas if possible.
Are taxi's there cheap / safe? What about the metro? Is the RLD safe to walk around during the daytime? I'm a bit of a lone wolf, so if I don't find myself in a group of guys, is it unsafe to walk around there at night? Are the hotel rooms there safe / clean? Are there many Casas in that neighborhood too? Questions !! Questions!!
I'm interested in the RLD district in Medellin as I notice a lot of curvier types on youtube videos which I suspect I won't see in the Casas, or am I wrong? Are there casas that are better for this type? (tits and ass!)
I read a lot of you guys talking about chicas you meet online, maybe I'm not as with it as some of you, as I've only really used Badoo for this in the past in the DR. What better sites should I be using? I don't really get how you can meet chicas you don't know on Facebook?
Ok guys, sorry for all the questions, but any help would be much appreciated!I've never stayed in the downtown area, so I can't provide any advice for hotels or apartments there. The downtown area is loaded with Colombian shops and restaurants. Recently, I've been staying in Laureles. It is easy to travel between there and downtown for less than a dollar. Hotels and apartments in Laureles are clean and safe. The renter is the one who introduces non-safe conditions in almost all cases.
Taxis are very cheap and safe, but you don't need a taxi to visit the RLD and the casas in downtown. You can walk to most of them. There are many casas. Only walk during the daytime, never after dark. The areas in downtown you should avoid are where you don't see any locals walking. The Metro is cheap, fast, and safe. It's never happened to me, but I have heard of pickpocketers on the Metro. Other than going to and from the airport (or between places you are staying), never carry anything that, if you lost it, would cause a problem for you.
Most of the downtown casas will have some big chicas (the ones you call curvy).
I have met almost all the chicas I know on Facebook. You need to get a start, and then it will be like rabbits, they multiple fast.
Hi there, I'll be coming to Colombia for the first time in January for at least 3 weeks, plan to hit Bogota and Medellin at least. I speak pretty good Spanish and have mongered a lot in Europe, the DR and Argentina, however all I know about Colombia is what have read and seen online. I've read back many pages here, but still have to ask some annoying newbie questions....
I know it's tedious, but I suggest you take a little time and go back a few months on this list. You will find the answers you're looking for. There are various options for areas and types of places to stay. However, there is no best option. It depends on your preferences and and how much you want to spend.
Mr Enternational
11-17-18, 17:11
There are various options for areas and types of places to stay. However, there is no best option. It depends on your preferences and and how much you want to spend.Exactly. One of my main wingmen prefers to get a $50 condo in Poblado/Lleras, while I prefer my $13 hotel downtown. Most of my time is spent downtown, so I don't want to be traveling back and forth when I can walk outside the door and already be there. Plus I'm really only in the room to sleep. I have only been to Poblado/Lleras 2 times.
Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?
I think I would like to stay in downtown, same logic as Mr Enternational. Are there lots of Casas in the downtown? Do love hotels exist in Medellin, if I want to meet a prepagado, but not at my place ?
So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night? That's a pity, since it's sunset at around 6 pm. What about in a busy shopping street for example? In Buenos Aires I remember walking until late in the evening.
By the way, if anyone happens to be going to the DR, Spain, Belgium, Germany or Hungary by any chance, I'm happy to advise!
Mr Enternational
11-17-18, 20:20
So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night? That's a pity, since it's sunset at around 6 pm.That would be a crazy rule. Means you would never go anywhere. The area scares people like SBT because there are some homeless people and drug addicts. They don't bother you though. One time I took my young cousin and his friend down to Medellin. On the first night we came in at 2 am. The next day they said they had walked back down to DeGrieff to fuck some more hoes at 4 am. They are still living and breathing and living normal lives.
I'm thinking of going to Medellin for vacation next year. I went to Sosua this year and San Jose the year before that. I do write trip reports, and appreciate the help I get on this site. Sorry, this is a real noob question. I would like to set up a facebook account to meet girls ahead of time in Medellin. But I have never done facebook before. I don't even have a legit facebook account for myself. I think I can figure out the part about setting up an alias e-mail and opening the account. My question is if I post photos of myself, will my friends and family members be directed to my monger account because facebook has facial recognition and tags me? Do I need to take any precautions to keep anyone I know from figuring out I have a facebook page dedicated to trying to meet girls in a foreign country? Thanks.
SpiderRider
11-17-18, 22:19
Tried Energy on Friday evening, did not like the lineup or the ambiance. Walked away. The place is not that easy to find, and there is no "energy" sign outside.
So overall Medellin experience average / below. Both girls and service were not upto my expectations, and language is overall an issue.
Happy Mongering,
Sam.1. Casas, salas de citas. Do not have signs, they look like any nondescript office or apartment. 2. Evenings are the worst time to visit them. Late morning or early afternoon. 3. Gems are not typically found in the well-known, higher profile casas like Energy. They are high volume girls, typically "operadas" (surgically remastered, robotic chicas) Patience, walking shoes, and dig a little deeper. 4. Yes its a spanish speaking society, any travelog book at your local library will say so.
I'm thinking of going to Medellin for vacation next year. I went to Sosua this year and San Jose the year before that. I do write trip reports, and appreciate the help I get on this site. Sorry, this is a real noob question. I would like to set up a facebook account to meet girls ahead of time in Medellin. But I have never done facebook before. I don't even have a legit facebook account for myself. I think I can figure out the part about setting up an alias e-mail and opening the account. My question is if I post photos of myself, will my friends and family members be directed to my monger account because facebook has facial recognition and tags me? Do I need to take any precautions to keep anyone I know from figuring out I have a facebook page dedicated to trying to meet girls in a foreign country? Thanks.If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.
If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.OK, sounds like I have nothing to worry about, then. Thanks very much. I guess I overestimated facebook's technology. I do not consider my self an overly paranoid person. Just had the wrong idea about facebook! I'm pretty sure I'll go to Medellin for my next trip. Many months away from now. I studied Spanish for 3 months on the computer for my recent trip to Dominican Republic. Got the basics down. I plan to put in more study time throughout the year to up my skills for Colombia!
Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?
I think I would like to stay in downtown, same logic as Mr Enternational. Are there lots of Casas in the downtown? Do love hotels exist in Medellin, if I want to meet a prepagado, but not at my place ?
So it's a hard and fast rule, never to walk at night?That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.
That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.Thanks again for your help! I can see a small section between Cra 53 and 54 on Calle 51, but this ends at the end of the block. I don't see any other street action there. Calle 53 (Avenida De Grieff) seems to be a large Boulevard alongside a park, or am I doing something wrong?
Would you say that the Medellin RLD is safer than the one in Bogota? It certainly looks less seedy and it's just on the doorstep of the downtown and an area full of shops/cafes etc.
SpiderRider
11-18-18, 00:56
That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.
You did not exaggerate very much. Now, consider this. The 30 K cost is only slightly less than what the casas charge. It's fun to change it up every once in a while, but be sensible and only do it every once in a while.
Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.
Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society Doesn't hurt to have a look! Would you say this one at 5.44 sitting on the blue stool looks too bad, to me she looks very presentable and sexy as hell!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953Lsyc
Doesn't hurt to have a look! Would you say this one at 5.44 sitting on the blue stool looks too bad, to me she looks very presentable and sexy as hell!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPTb953LsycThat video is from 2008. Youtubers keep stealing these videos and posting as new.
Hasideas Tao
11-18-18, 14:06
Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.Wow. Incredibly judgmental of the girls as well as their clients hahaha. We all have our good and bad days I suppose.
Perhaps if one were to interview an objective sample "those street girls" some of your presumptions may be true. However, I can tell you that I have spoken to many girls on the streets in Medellin. Avoiding glue sniffers and anyone who looks as if they may have missed a shower on that day, the majority I have spoken to for more than 30 seconds were surprisingly friendly and sharp.
Hasideas Tao
11-18-18, 14:15
That video starts at Calle 51 and Cra 53. The area from Calle 51 to 53 between Cra 51 and 54 should encompass the complete RLD. Calle 53 is also known as Av DeGrieff. The Veracruz area is Calle 53 from Cra 51 to 52. The RLD is downtown. It is within walking distance to most of the downtown casas.
Almost all the working chicas in Medellin are independents. It a good ideal to survey your surrounding at all times. There should not be a problem taking the chicas to a room because the room is in a hotel, not in someone's house.
There are many love hotels in and around Medellin.
Many Medellin residents have told me to not be downtown after dark. I take their advice and I'm not there walking the streets after dark. There are too many other options to take that risk. There are no reasons that better chicas come out after dark in the downtown area.Agreed. For the most part. If you are new to an area, the people who hang out there every day will notice you immediately. If you look like a gringo or a tourist, they will assume you have more money in your pocket than anyone else on the block. Especially if you are walking back and forth rubbernecking. IF you do choose to go to an area like that, I suggest taking a seat and plant yourself somewhere in the middle for an hour and you can relax assess and take in the show much more discretely and safely. IMHO a very entertaining experience.
Fun Lovr, Crypton and Mr Enternational, thanks a lot for your advice! Is the RLD within walking distance of the downtown then? I mean this area below. What's a street reference for that area?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLib1vL08PI
Are the chicas all independents, or do they have pimps? Lots of guys hanging around in those videos, do you have to look out who's around before taking one to a room?.I didn't watch the whole video, but it begins at the corner behind Iglesia de la Veracruz. Calle 51 at Carrera 53, I believe.
Downtown is a large area. However, every place you want to go is within walking distance. If you don't want to stay downtown, pick a spot in Laureles close to a metro station. You can be downtown in under 10 minutes for under $1.
Most of the casas are downtown, several blocks east and a few blocks north of where the video begins. Walking downtown at night is optional. I did it 3 times a week for a few months without anyone bothering me. However, there were streets I avoided after 8 pm. After that, most of the shopping places are closed or closing.
Most of the streetwalkers are reasonably safe with regards to pimps. If you're looking for curvier ones, try the area around Calle 53 and Carrera 54.
There are plenty of love motels in Colombia. Prices range from about 15 k to 100 k. 15 k gets a bed and a shower. 100 k gets jacuzzi, stripper pole, love chair, sound system, great shower and every accessory you can think of available for a price. They are all over the city, with several downtown.
Black Page
11-18-18, 16:54
Dear all,I will be arriving to Medellin next week, late at night. I asked this days ago, but nobody responded: anyone knows if at the MDE airport there is any shop selling SIM cards or recargas, open after 11 pm?Ok I am here so I can respond my questions, to the benefit of others who are interested to this.
THERE IS a small shop at MDE airport, open 24/24 (so the salesgirl told me), right in front of Juan Valdez at 2nd floor (1st floor with European numbering). They sell also SIM cards and do recargas, but it's not their line of business (not even advertised with a sign).
At 11 pm, I bought a TIGO prepaid SIM card, with 4 G LTE, and I added a data plan for 1 GB 1 week, for only 16 k. There must be some problem, because it connects and works, but since yesterday my MIFI connects only to Edge and with few kbps data speed. Unusable nearly. Today I go to buy a Claro in an official sales point.
About IMEI registration, no issues at all. My devices are all working. The GSM phone was succeffully registered online, the MIFI comes from my operator and works (well, I hope the EDGE problem is not due to this).
1. Casas, salas de citas. Do not have signs, they look like any nondescript office or apartment. 2. Evenings are the worst time to visit them. Late morning or early afternoon. 3. Gems are not typically found in the well-known, higher profile casas like Energy. They are high volume girls, typically "operadas" (surgically remastered, robotic chicas) Patience, walking shoes, and dig a little deeper. 4. Yes its a spanish speaking society, any travelog book at your local library will say so.Oh, well, maybe next time (if).
The Tall Man
11-18-18, 18:42
Seriously?? Those street girls are for local minimum wager earners. Brain damaged glue sniffers, psych hospital dropouts, and most desperately hopeless in an urban society. And the rooms are disgusting, its more like breeding in a kennel than any kind of happy fantasy. If you've traveled all the way to Antioquia to do business there. Well. That's remarkably pathetic.The Tall Man has over 20 years mongering in all parts of the world, I have enjoyed the very high end clubs in europe and russia and guess what? Over the past year plus I have spent considerable time in centro and have found a few real gems that are humble, fun and who rock my world.
JMHO!
The Tall Man.
SpiderRider
11-18-18, 20:06
Wow. Incredibly judgmental of the girls as well as their clients hahaha. We all have our good and bad days I suppose.
Perhaps if one were to interview an objective sample "those street girls" some of your presumptions may be true. However, I can tell you that I have spoken to many girls on the streets in Medellin. Avoiding glue sniffers and anyone who looks as if they may have missed a shower on that day, the majority I have spoken to for more than 30 seconds were surprisingly friendly and sharp.Forgive me, I'm truly fond of all the people and culture of Antioquia and Colombia. Also, I am compassionate towards people in all circumstances. I stand scolded. However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.
Mr Enternational
11-18-18, 21:29
However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.That would depend on the newcomer wouldn't it? Like I said before, it was great for my 23 year old cousin and his best friend their first time. I also took to it like a fish to water and don't want to stay in another place.
If you have never been out of your city, never been around other people, a rich guy who is uncomfortable around poor people and/or street shit, do not speak the language etc, then as with the hobby itself YMMV. But I defintely would not tell people to stay away from downtown if they are new. You do not know what kind of experiences they have had and what they are comfortable with. Hell, if you sent me to the Mansion when I was new I would have been bored to death. There is no one size fits all.
I agree 100%. It absolutely depends on the newcomer. It also depends on what kind of experience is wanted. Stepping out of our comfort zone to deal with people on equal terms is not for everybody, and neither is bunking with a bunch of gringos and sharing the house girls in between trips to Juan Valdez cafe. There is no wrong or right way to go. It's all about finding what makes you happy.
That would depend on the newcomer wouldn't it? Like I said before, it was great for my 23 year old cousin and his best friend their first time. I also took to it like a fish to water and don't want to stay in another place.
If you have never been out of your city, never been around other people, a rich guy who is uncomfortable around poor people and/or street shit, do not speak the language etc, then as with the hobby itself YMMV. But I defintely would not tell people to stay away from downtown if they are new. You do not know what kind of experiences they have had and what they are comfortable with. Hell, if you sent me to the Mansion when I was new I would have been bored to death. There is no one size fits all.
I agree 100%. It absolutely depends on the newcomer. It also depends on what kind of experience is wanted. Stepping out of our comfort zone to deal with people on equal terms is not for everybody, and neither is bunking with a bunch of gringos and sharing the house girls in between trips to Juan Valdez cafe. There is no wrong or right way to go. It's all about finding what makes you happy.Agree. In my case I am comfortable with a lot of places that many others are not. No problem with the centro casas and strip clubs (at least the 3 or 4 I've been to). But I never quite got comfortable with partaking in the downtown street scene. I walked it, and looked. Saw some I could have been interested in. But was also aware of too many things that could go badly. And I also agree with a previous poster that from one street to the next things can feel very very different. There are streets that are scary under the bright sun at noon. There are others less than 2 blocks away that I have walked at night and felt reasonably safe. Probably just me. But nothing comparable to the Santa Fe zona de tolerencia in Bogota, where I basically felt safe. That is a smaller area, but basically dedicated to sex. So totally different than the downtown parts of Medellin. And my bet would be that centro Medellin at night. Especially after Metro shuts down. Is way more dangerous. In a zombie world sort of sense.
Hey guys,
I'm visiting Medellin during thanksgiving weekend. Anyone else going going there next week?
If anyone wants to grab some beer or hit up a bar / club let me know.
If you don't have another account using the same pictures, I don't think Facebook goes to the trouble of searching the Internet for a match. If, by chance, you have a local friend who has the same friend as you, you will probably be exposed to your friend. They do a cross check and post "People you may know" in the friend's timeline. Do not have another gringo as a friend in your monger account. That is how many people get exposed.Facebook also connects you if you have two accounts and look at them both from the same IP. That's the simplest way. Then they post pics of "people you may know" back and forth since they know that if there are two FB accounts at the same internet address (and computer) then logically they will know each other. So as far as I know the only way to keep them totally separate would be to never use the same computer and IP. And depending how sophisticated their algorithm is probably never checking in at the same time in the same area even. So no need for them to use facial recognition. Way way simpler than that. If they have any desire to chase that info. In my case they know, I'm sure. They routinely post pics of friends from one account on my other one suggesting that I might know them. I finally did end up with 3 people I believe in common on my 2 FB accounts. I've checked with friends to see if they get random friend suggestions from my "other" FB account, and as far as I know this has not happened. But I don't want it to. That's for sure. One is for family, and old friends. The other I use mostly when travelling. So the hundred or so younger lady friends I have on my travel FB don't mix that well with my family, children, grandchildren, etc. At least I hope they don't get mixed. So far no disasters. But it's high risk to have 2 accounts if you have any sort of dual lifestyle you don't want mixed together.
LandedFlush
11-19-18, 05:45
Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.
Hey guys, I am visiting Medellin next weekend and wanted to see if anyone else from here is going there next week.
I am down to meet for couple of drinks and then maybe hit up a bar / club or something.
Let me know. Hope everyone have a great thanksgiving.
Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.Thank god you didn't go with see. You're right, the last thing you want is to get into a physical altercation with a hooker in a foreign country. That's a situation that could rapidly go south for you if the police or locals get involved and I guarantee you they'll be more inclined to believe her side of the story. I've seen internet videos of Latin American mobs burning suspected thieves alive. Not saying that'll happen in Medellin but it's not worth risking over some cheap pussy.
Two cardinal rules that'll serve you well when mongering:
1. Never pay in advance if you can help it.
2. Always negotiate everything beforehand.
Pretty much every bad experience I've had can be traced to violating either of these rules. Think of how your experience would have played out if you kept your money to the end--as soon as she started to deadfish or demand extras you could have just kicked her to the curb or walked off and all you'd be out is the hotel fee. A girl who already has your money generally has little incentive to perform well, especially if they don't think you'll repeat.
The second rule is another obvious one that I've seen a number of mongers break. They always say they like to "go with the flow" and pretend this hot woman is really into them and are no doubt hoping they're getting laid for free. Hell, I've made this mistake too. I met a fine chica on Tinder who was really flirty and seemed to be genuinely into me. After a long conversation she agreed to meet me later that day. Still no mention of any money changing hands, but doubts began to creep into my mind so eventually I asked what she wanted in exchange for meeting. After some hemming and hawing she finally said she wanted $200. I counter offered my usual (150,000 pesos) and she got all huffy and refused. Just like that, illusion shattered. But better she get pissed while still far away and behind a chat screen than when in my face in my apartment.
LandedFlush
11-19-18, 21:55
Thank god you didn't go with see. You're right, the last thing you want is to get into a physical altercation with a hooker in a foreign country. That's a situation that could rapidly go south for you if the police or locals get involved and I guarantee you they'll be more inclined to believe her side of the story. I've seen internet videos of Latin American mobs burning suspected thieves alive. Not saying that'll happen in Medellin but it's not worth risking over some cheap pussy.
Two cardinal rules that'll serve you well when mongering:
1. Never pay in advance if you can help it..Thanks for the reply, man. I like the idea of only paying after. I have several points to add:
1. If you want to pay after and she refuses. Sometimes if you can get thru that BS quickly enough and walk out of the room. You can cancel the room and get a refund! I've done that before. Of course when talking to the hotel clerk you should tell her that the puta is a lot of problems and basically blame her for everything.
2. I have an idea of telling the puta beforehand. In the street. That you only pay after sex and asking her if that is OK. If not, moving on to the next one.
3. Some putas are legit but have a firm policy of demanding payment upfront. So you might end up having to walk out a lot and blasting away a considerable amount in hotel fees. 31000 COP is $7 now. That can add up if you walk on a lot of putas. And also you might end up blowing away some number of legit putas who just happen to have the payment-upfront policy. Do you have some comment on this point?
JamesPearle
11-20-18, 02:14
Note to newbies. The place is extremely difficult to find from the street. I had to ask for directions and walked past the place twice before finding it.
After hitting the buzzer, the door unlocked. I went in. An older woman asked me whether I wanted 30 minutes or an hour. I said 1 hour. She said 150000. I was brought into a small waiting area with a few couches and given a beer. There were about 20 girls that were brought in one by one wearing a thin robe over bra and panties. Each opened her robe, did a quick twirl, said her name and her number, gave obligatory smile, and then walked out. Each girl was in front of me for maybe 5 seconds, so it is impossible to remember who is who. This whole setup works when you spot one chick that is your type and immediately choose her instead of waiting to see who else is in line.
Anyways, all the girls I would consider around an 8. Attractive, but I wouldn't do backflips over any of them. The one thing I remember thinking is that all of the girls had magnificent rear ends that were very proportional to their body type. The only differences were breast size and stuff like height, hair color, and skin tone. There were no girls with dark brown complexion, FWIW.
I remember someone posted a tip that the girls first in line are probably the most eager so I picked one of the hottest girls I could remember that was earlier in line. The older woman brought her (chica #1) back in, I was asked to pay then went to the room. As some have said, the room is very dark. The bed is very hard. I thought to myself that 150000 is cheap AF price to bang a solid 8, so I decided to get another girl (chica #2) and get the party started.
I take a shower while chica #2 was being called to the room. I didn't need a shower but wanted to make sure the chicas knew I was fresh and clean. I figured it would make it more likely that they would offer BBBJ. After I got out of the shower, I laid down on the bed and did my standard 2 girl routine. I had one girl give me a handjob while the other girl did a show strip tease. That was dangerous cause I nearly blew my load when chica #2 turned around and pulled down her panties while chica #1 was oiling up my cock and balls. After chica #2 was naked, the girls switched places and did the same routine again.
So here is where things started going south. Chica #2 gave a terrible hand job. I do not understand how a girl can work in the sex industry and not know how to give a decent handjob. What the hell? This isn't rocket science. I eventually asked chica #1 to explain to chica #2 how to give a handjob. That's so sad.
Complaint 2) The place is called energy massage. Massage is in the name. You would think that anyone who works at a massage place would know how to give a massage or would at least make an effort to give a massage. Not today. These girls just smeared some oil on my back and legs and randomly pushed it around. Completely uncoordinated. Neither therapeutic nor sensual. What the hell!
So, I turn over and ask for a BBBJ. Chica #2 said no. Chica #1 said she would BBBJ for 100000 COP. I knew she was over-charging from RTFF, but I cannot stand CBJs. I negotiated Chica #1 down to 70000 and went with it. Chica #1 starts with the BBBJ. Her mouth felt good but she was squeezing my cock with her hand like she was trying to choke the life out of my cock. What the hell? I physically removed her hand and placed it on my thigh. She immediately resumes choking my cock with the other hand. So I moved her other hand as well and told her not to use her hands. I start to lose my hard-on after all this BS so I ask her to hop on top and try riding. I finally have to give her credit. Chica #1 had a nice technique. It was nowhere near the best cowgirl I've had, but was enough to do the trick.
I wouldn't and didn't go back.
The only suggestion is to be as specific as you can in.
Ask in advance about what you want. "Que servicios?" is what you want to ask. Oral, oral con condom, oral sin condom etc. This is at least a start. These are all terms used in the escort ads on Prepagos. Don't be embarrassed to be specific
Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.
JamesPearle
11-20-18, 09:17
Day 2 - La Isla.
IMO, very, very beautiful women there. 300000 COP to take them to a room. I know from reading the thread that there are some cheaper alternatives. I will try those on the next visit. Doing the math, I thought it was worth 300 K to test drive the merch before investing time, money, and energy for a party outside the club. Not sure how much was luck, but I quickly settled on the perfect girl very quickly.
After getting into the club, I saw a blond girl with a great body. Big (fake) tits, small waist, huge ass. I immediately had her come sit with me just to have some company for the price of a drink. I put my arm around her and watched the talent on stage. As this girl was next to me, I realized her face was not very pretty. I scanned around the room and laid eyes on three girls standing and talking about 10 feet from me. One was young and sexy AF so I sent away the butterface and asked the sexy morena to come over.
She got close. She was even sexier up close. Fantastic body. Sexy AF. We had a drink and I asked her about BBBJ. She said yes. I decided to take her to the back and she gave me a BBBJ that was excellent. Just excellent. Sloppy and sensual. Like she was born to suck dick and lick balls. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. I would have guessed 20 but who knows. And who cares. I wanted to know what her pussy felt like so I suited up and fucked her missionary for a little while. Tight pussy but her mouth was way, way better. I switched back to BBBJ. I was trying to avoid blowing my load this night but having a beautiful 18 yo nursing at my cock like this, it seemed almost wrong to deny her milk. I asked if I could cum in her mouth. She said yes. So I let her mouth finish me off.
Day 4 - BBBJRIMTC at my apartment.
I had the same girl from Isla come over to my apartment. Multiple positions, BBBJ and rimming to completion was on the menu. Let me say, there are some chicks that are shy about rimjobs and there are some chicks that give it 120%. This girl was definitely the latter. At one point, I looked down while she was rimming and saw her staring directly at me. Wow. This girl is truly special. I blew a real nice nut while she was massaging my prostate with her tongue.
While getting ready to go she got busy trying to set me up with other girls. (BTW, I found out that referrals is a good way to get connected to quality girls). I told her I definitely wanted to have a threesome with two girls and wanted to see her again.
Day 5 - Threesome at my apartment.
Now, this morena was hot. But the next day she sent me a picture of a girl that was three times hotter than she was and asked me if I still wanted to do a threesome. I said "Hell yeah! Turns out that the girl in the pic had a few nice qualities that I couldn't tell from the photos:
1) she had huge tits, yay!
2) she was as into rimming as the morena, double yay!
When they arrived, we chatted and had some drinks. The 18 yo looked like she was blasted. The hot one with big tits seemed very down to earth. Standard MO. I had one of the girls oil up my cock and balls while the other did a sexy strip. Then had them switch places and do the same thing again. Then had one of the girls do BBBJ while the other got to work on the rimjob. Then had them switch and repeat. After I couldn't take it anymore, I emptied my balls.
Later I took the two of them out to eat. While we were out a waiter came up to me and said he could introduce me to girls that were hotter than the two I was with. Damn. Wish I had more time there to see if he was telling the truth.
Good times overall! Looking forward to next trip.
TheBiller22
11-20-18, 14:20
Anyone have some recommendations for places to stay in el centro / prado? Looking for apartments that are chica friendly with no chica fees. Preferably under 150 k a night.
For those of you that are also looking for one. I had a horrible experience at hotel Fernando plaza. They would charge 200 k for each guest! Don't know if that is the norm but seems a bit pricey for 1 guest.
TheBiller22
11-20-18, 14:30
Agreed with one chica on 40000 and 22000 for hotel. Went, paid for hotel, got into the room. She asked to me to pay so I paid. She then said that if I want a blowjob then I should pay more. I was surprised blowjob is extra and said "no, I don't like blowjobs anyway". Then we lay down and she has her bra on. I ask her to take it off and she says "no, because too little money". I tell her it's ridiculous and try to take it off and she yells at me "no!" Then I really didn't know what to do. I was being clearly ripped off but what were my options:
A. Leave. Leaving her with money for nothing.
B. Complain. There is no one to complain to, is there? They are independent girls and the hotel doesn't really give a fuck what happens. Police would probably just have a good laugh.
C. Try to take it off. That risks violence and I don't really want to get into a fight with a hooker in a foreign country.
D. Still fuck her.
I went with the and she managed to even make the bad. She immediately said that if I go too hard I will have problems.
Overall, the worst experience I've ever had (next to almost banging a tranny).
If you guys have any advice I would really appreciate it. And don't worry you won't hurt my ego. This is a forum about banging hookers after all.I think I would've asked how much for a blowjob and / or asked for just a blowjob for the money paid and cut my losses. Not sure if I could've even gone thru with the act with an attitude like that. This situation was probably an exception of what usually happens though (I would assume). But yea as others said, next time I would tel them straight up that you would pay after the act unless you see some sort of connection which in that case I doubt she would demand the money upfront. Once that's established, than you have full control of the $ and if she was to have any ridiculous demands / upcharges then just don't pay her and leave.
Forgive me, I'm truly fond of all the people and culture of Antioquia and Colombia. Also, I am compassionate towards people in all circumstances. I stand scolded. However, el centro is not a place for a newcomer to have the most satisfying experiences available.It depends on the newcomer. I took a few first timers around El Centro and they thought they were in heaven. I took others to El Centro and they couldn't wait to get out of there.
Note to newbies. The place is extremely difficult to find from the street. I had to ask for directions and walked past the place twice before finding it.
After hitting the buzzer, the door unlocked. I went in. An older woman asked me whether I wanted 30 minutes or an hour. I said 1 hour. She said 150000. I was brought into a small waiting area with a few couches and given a beer. There were about 20 girls that were brought in one by one wearing a thin robe over bra and panties. Each opened her robe, did a quick twirl, said her name and her number, gave obligatory smile, and then walked out. Each girl was in front of me for maybe 5 seconds, so it is impossible to remember who is who. This whole setup works when you spot one chick that is your type and immediately choose her instead of waiting to see who else is in line.
Anyways, all the girls I would consider around an 8. Attractive, but I wouldn't do backflips over any of them. The one thing I remember thinking is that all of the girls had magnificent rear ends that were very proportional to their body type. The only differences were breast size and stuff like height, hair color, and skin tone. There were no girls with dark brown complexion, FWIW..If you pull up the address on Google maps and go to street view, you'll have no difficulty finding Energy. I try to do that with every place before heading out. Saves a lot of confusion.
In the times I went to Energy, I almost always saw at least one dark skin girl. My best experience there was with one. It ranked as best experience in any casa and made it into my top 10 of all mongering experiences.
The girls first in line are the girls who got to the line first. Nothing more. They might be eager for a session, but only because nobody ever picks them. In other words, there's probably a good reason why they're available. I found the best strategy is to pay attention to the girl's face. Her attitude is what makes the difference. I'll take a 6 or 7 that wants to rock my world over a 9 who just wants to get paid.
The beds are hard, because they are massage tables. You must have got the wrong room, because every room I've been in there had plenty of natural light. If you're looking for a massage, go to an actual massage place. Any place with a price for sex listed on the website isn't a massage place.
A trio, which is much different from a threesome, is what you described. Doing a trio with 2 unknowns is unlikely to turn out good. They already know you're making decisions with the little head, so they have the upper hand. The key is finding 2 girls who are great solo, who also get along great.
If you get the right girl, Energy is great.
... 3. Some putas are legit but have a firm policy of demanding payment upfront. So you might end up having to walk out a lot and blasting away a considerable amount in hotel fees. 31000 COP is $7 now. That can add up if you walk on a lot of putas. Right now, the exchange rate is 3198 to $1. That equals $9.70 for 3100. Maybe you meant to type 2100, which is almost $7.
Bad experience in La Mayorista area I was wondering, where did you meet her, in a club or was she a streetwalker, or something else?
LandedFlush
11-20-18, 21:53
I was wondering, where did you meet her, in a club or was she a streetwalker, or something else?La Mayorista is basically one block. The girls are posted up against the buildings. The block is lined with bars, restaurants, hotels and for some reason. One casino. They are all independents. You negotiate with them directly and then take them to one of the hotels. This area is frequented by Colombian men, not gringos. You will see very few gringos there if any. Prices are less than half of Park Lleras. Area safe with constant police presence posted up on the block. It's a very fun experience, especially if you come with a few friends. But yes, there is a higher risk of a bad experience like the one I had.
LandedFlush
11-20-18, 21:55
Right now, the exchange rate is 3198 to $1. That equals $9.70 for 3100. Maybe you meant to type 2100, which is almost $7.You're right, I meant to type 22000 COP which is the standard hotel fee there for half an hour.
JamesPearle
11-21-18, 21:00
I got a bunch of PMs about the cost for my apartment visits. I paid 350 K per girl per visit.
Where I live, a 9 or 10 wouldn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you for $110. So for me this was a amazing deal. The chicas seemed happy as well. Great. That's what I call a win-win negotiation!
Day 2 - La Isla.
IMO, very, very beautiful women there. 300000 COP to take them to a room. I know from reading the thread that there are some cheaper alternatives. I will try those on the next visit. Doing the math, I thought it was worth 300 K to test drive the merch before investing time, money, and energy for a party outside the club. Not sure how much was luck, but I quickly settled on the perfect girl very quickly.
After getting into the club, I saw a blond girl with a great body. Big (fake) tits, small waist, huge ass. I immediately had her come sit with me just to have some company for the price of a drink. I put my arm around her and watched the talent on stage. As this girl was next to me, I realized her face was not very pretty. I scanned around the room and laid eyes on three girls standing and talking about 10 feet from me. One was young and sexy AF so I sent away the butterface and asked the sexy morena to come over...
La Mayorista is basically one block. The girls are posted up against the buildings. The block is lined with bars, restaurants, hotels and for some reason. One casino. They are all independents. You negotiate with them directly and then take them to one of the hotels. This area is frequented by Colombian men, not gringos. You will see very few gringos there if any. Prices are less than half of Park Lleras. Area safe with constant police presence posted up on the block. It's a very fun experience, especially if you come with a few friends. But yes, there is a higher risk of a bad experience like the one I had.Could you please give the link for the reference points on google maps for Mayorista, because I've been looking now for 20 minutes and just going all over the place! Apparenty, for Mayorista it's Calle 85 and Carrera 51, no luck finding that! There are like 10 different Calle 85's, plus I can't get access to the Medellin map for some reason.
PaisaPorFavor
11-22-18, 02:01
It is the block on calle 85 between carrera 50a and 51.
Could you please give the link for the reference points on google maps for Mayorista, because I've been looking now for 20 minutes and just going all over the place! Apparenty, for Mayorista it's Calle 85 and Carrera 51, no luck finding that! There are like 10 different Calle 85's, plus I can't get access to the Medellin map for some reason..
Could you please give the link for the reference points on google maps for Mayorista, because I've been looking now for 20 minutes and just going all over the place! Apparenty, for Mayorista it's Calle 85 and Carrera 51, no luck finding that! There are like 10 different Calle 85's, plus I can't get access to the Medellin map for some reason.Here's a map I made of where it is at:
Could you please give the link for the reference points on google maps for Mayorista, because I've been looking now for 20 minutes and just going all over the place! Apparenty, for Mayorista it's Calle 85 and Carrera 51, no luck finding that! There are like 10 different Calle 85's, plus I can't get access to the Medellin map for some reason.Take the Metro to the Ayura station. Get off the train, go up the stairs, exit the station and turn left. Take the stairs down and follow the street to the west. You'll pass a bunch of street vendors, then you will pass Plaza Mayorista, a major distribution center for all types of goods. Just past it you'll come to Casino Paraguas on your left. That's the beginning of the Mayorista red light district. It's just 2 blocks on the left side of the street.
KiteRunner1979
11-22-18, 07:56
I'm thinking of going to Medellin for vacation next year. I went to Sosua this year and San Jose the year before that. I do write trip reports, and appreciate the help I get on this site. Sorry, this is a real noob question. I would like to set up a facebook account to meet girls ahead of time in Medellin. But I have never done facebook before. I don't even have a legit facebook account for myself. I think I can figure out the part about setting up an alias e-mail and opening the account. My question is if I post photos of myself, will my friends and family members be directed to my monger account because facebook has facial recognition and tags me? Do I need to take any precautions to keep anyone I know from figuring out I have a facebook page dedicated to trying to meet girls in a foreign country? Thanks.I can only tell you from personal experience. I have had two facebook accounts for years now. My main account and an account that I use to meet chicas from Colombia, Cuba, Etc. Not once have I gotten tagged or gotten a friend you may know notification from someone that I know from my "Real Life". The key is don't use the same email address and never link your phone number to the account. If you link your phone number to your account, people from your contact list will start showing up on people you may know section.
KilledSoul
11-23-18, 02:20
I found, after making over 150 facebook friends with chicas, that I've refined my introduction and pitch to such a degree that usually now I just copy and paste the same phrases over and over.
1. When you find a girl to your liking, friend her and send her a short message about how your visiting Colombia and would like to meet them.
2. About 40% will respond to your message. If they're super enthusiastic and immediately agree right off the bat then you've struck prepago gold and can safely move on to step 5. Otherwise, make some small talk (How are you, I like your photos, you seem fun, etc.) and maybe tell them a little about yourself to put them at ease.
3. Close out the conversation by saying how you think we could have a good time together.
4. If they respond positively, tell them you'll message them again when you arrive. If they're not interested then they'll probably just ghost you at this point. A few will play dumb and ask what you mean, in which case it's time to say explicitly that you want to sleep with them. You may think this is crass but you're here for booty, not to make friends.
5. Once in Medellin or wherever message them again asking if they'd like to come to your apartment or hotel at a certain time.
6. If they're willing to come to a stranger's apartment "for a good time" then you're 99% certain at this point that they're doing it for money. This is when I make my usual pitch of 150 mil for an hour plus bbj. I've had counter offers, and some girls refuse to bbj, but I've never had anyone get mad or insulted. I know some members here prefer not to mention money or expectations beforehand and just go with the flow but I feel you save yourself some headaches ironing everything out in advance. Last thing you want is some diva demanding $200 and threatening to make a scene.This is a good strategy. Usually when I tell them that I will travel to Medellin after 4 months, most of them stop responding though.
KilledSoul
11-23-18, 02:27
I can only tell you from personal experience. I have had two facebook accounts for years now. My main account and an account that I use to meet chicas from Colombia, Cuba, Etc. Not once have I gotten tagged or gotten a friend you may know notification from someone that I know from my "Real Life". The key is don't use the same email address and never link your phone number to the account. If you link your phone number to your account, people from your contact list will start showing up on people you may know section.It seems FB has become very strict with new accounts. If you just create an account and start giving too many friend requests, there are chances that you will blocked from the platform. And regarding privacy, if you are going to upload your real photos, make sure those photos are publicly available to give element of future deniability. While signing up, don't give your mobile number at any cost and create a new email address for sign up. Face regonition is not used for giving friend requests. Its usually your browser login location and history, your phone number and email contacts that they use to track you. And also avoid FB and Messenger apps on your mobile phone.
Horny Goats
11-23-18, 16:15
Take the Metro to the Ayura station. Get off the train, go up the stairs, exit the station and turn left. Take the stairs down and follow the street to the west. You'll pass a bunch of street vendors, then you will pass Plaza Mayorista, a major distribution center for all types of goods. Just past it you'll come to Casino Paraguas on your left. That's the beginning of the Mayorista red light district. It's just 2 blocks on the left side of the street.These are good directions. I strolled through this area last Saturday evening and it was just getting started, but there were already a dozen or so chicas scattered around the area, in doorways and at the local bars. It also appeared that there was one actual strip club, although it was too early in the day to verify that. I'll return at some point and post a better report.
ColombiaLover
11-24-18, 04:32
I know people have varying opinions about this, but I use a credit card quite often when I am in MDE, particularly at restaurants and store (because I get points and there is no international exchange fee). Maybe this has been posted before or is common knowledge, but very recently I have noticed more restaurants and businesses in Medellin that (should) give the option of paying in COP or USD. Sometimes they ask and sometimes they just assume because you are a gringo, you want to pay in USD (which, for me, is not true because the exchange rate is not as good that way). I might expect this type of option in Lleras or at a hotel in Poblado, but I stay in Laureles and was given this option at Frisby chicken and Subway (where I have my thanksgiving turkey sub! So just a head's up. If you use a credit card and want to be billed in COP, just be sure to keep an eye out.
I know people have varying opinions about this, but I use a credit card quite often when I am in MDE, particularly at restaurants and store (because I get points and there is no international exchange fee). Maybe this has been posted before or is common knowledge, but very recently I have noticed more restaurants and businesses in Medellin that (should) give the option of paying in COP or USD. Sometimes they ask and sometimes they just assume because you are a gringo, you want to pay in USD (which, for me, is not true because the exchange rate is not as good that way). I might expect this type of option in Lleras or at a hotel in Poblado, but I stay in Laureles and was given this option at Frisby chicken and Subway (where I have my thanksgiving turkey sub! So just a head's up. If you use a credit card and want to be billed in COP, just be sure to keep an eye out.With the exchange rate hovering around 3100-3200 and local places only giving 2850 its better to use CCs as long as your CC company doesn't charge an international fee. Make sure to be billed ok cop and your CC company will give the best exchange rate.
I know people have varying opinions about this, but I use a credit cardFact: Best way to get the best overall rate / return in any country is to use a credit card without foreign transaction fees, without annual fees, without making payments, if the business doesn't charge extra for using the credit card.
I have noticed more restaurants and businesses in Medellin that (should) give the option of paying in COP or USD. Sometimes they ask and sometimes they just assume because you are a gringo, you want to pay in USD (which, for me, is not true because the exchange rate is not as good that way)I hate when they do that. They are ripping you off, those fuckin bastards.
When they charge you in US dollars (if your credit card is based in the US), their credit card processor charges you 3.5% extra. Even if you have a lousy credit card that charges you the foreign transaction charge, it's only 3.0%.
Most credit card processor gives the business the option to charge their customer in US dollar or the local currency. If they charge you in US dollar, I believe they don't get charged the 3% Visa / Mastercard fee.
From my personal experiences, they usually charge you in COP when not asking, but sometimes they charge in US dollar. That irritates me. I got tired of asking them to charge me in COP, but now I try to tell them to charge me in COP.
Some business owners will ask their employee to charge in US dollars. But most of the time, I think it's just ignorance of the employee.
TadaiMaybe
11-24-18, 08:14
I have saved a great deal time and money reading this forum. Hoping this trip report will help someone also.
Arrived from CTG with buddy Fri Nov 9 and paid the 70 K posted rate 70 K for cab ride to El Poblado. Rented apt on 23rd floor of a 24-HR guarded building about 7 min walk from Parque Lleras in a quiet residential area. Left for a recon of the area and at the building guard gate had a chat and intro with the security guards. Slipped each a 10 K much to their delight. I try to stay in places where 24 HR guards are on duty even if the place isn't chica friendly. The small tip makes many of the hassles disappear.
Had a late lunch, exchanged cash at 2890 COP for 1 USD and rested. Many guys use ATM to get cash but credit cards are accepted in almost all restaurants with the exch rate north of 3150 COP for all transactions (about 10% better). We used the cash for mongering and taxi fares mostly.
At 10:00 back at Parque Lleras and the place is hopping with chics and partygoers. Had a few beers at a club overlooking the action and saw many beautiful talents. Had heard paisas are gorgeous and now witnessing it firsthand. All the clubs and restaurants had touts. Went to Gusto, Tabu (Taboo? And a couple of others. They all had a variety of chicas props and semi-pros if there's such a thing, but getting fleeced on beer and liquor just to meet hoes didn't sit well with either of us. I had a list of at least a dozen girls I had lined up from Colombiancupid so started to contact them. Most wanted to meet later that weekend. Chatted up several 8's and a couple 9's during our walk and they ranged from 250 K to 300 k so we passed. It was still early around midnight & no incentive to lower the rate. Just to the east side of the park on the last street saw two young girls a morena and a blond I think 18 and 22 and they were giggling and flirting with us. The blond was 22 gorgeous with bolt-ONS and firm ass. I confirmed if they had cedulas and didn't even haggle with 150 K for 1 hour. My bud was ok with the moreno and I fell in love with the blond and we were off. Our security guard gave us a smiling welcome and a thumbs up and we were off to the races. The girls smelled like cannabis and I knew it was going to be fun. I had a great GFE including continuous DFK, BBBJ and a great fuck with the blond one, even took a shower together while we made out. She was a bit nervous about roughing up her bolt-ONS but her worries didn't last long. Fantastic pussy, very responsive and passionate; had an amazing experience. My buddy with the morena wasn't as lucky, holding back on his dick not letting all in. I was really up for spending more time with my gal but we have an unwritten agreement that we don't abandon our monger partner for a chica. Day 1 came to an end about 2:00 am.
TadaiMaybe
11-24-18, 08:18
Early part of the day took a tour of the city to get oriented with the city. Saw some SWs around Botero Plaza and figured out where the strip joints are. In the afternoon visited a few of them and didn't care for the selection. Didn't go to any of the high end joints like Luna Lunera or Fase II mostly looking for the gems in the rough. About 6:30 ended up at Conejitas and haha definitely heard the bell ring when walked in announcing fresh meat on premises! Passed on most of the 7-8 girls lurking there and were ready to leave after the 5 K beer was finished. That's when I saw DulceMaria walk in. Cute chica with typical long black hair and white paisa skin bought her a 7 K aguardiente then paid the 70 K for 30 minutes and went upstairs. Had a really good session with BBBJ without even asking. Room was clean with shower and decent bed. She helped me shower to begin the session and she did everything I requested. Bolt-ONS and a nice firm ass and a flat stomach with 4-packs; definitely the work of a surgeon. I got her number but never called her. I would have in a different country but simply too many choices in this city.
At night ended up at Parque Llleras again, my buddy was tired and went to bed. I hadn't yet used any of my cupid contacts so I asked a busty 21 YO I had talked on whatsapp to meet up. She was 2 hours late but showed up and I bought her dinner at Il Forno right at the Parque. Afterwards I asked her to come to my apt and she said she had to work early morning and would meet me after work at 2:00 tomorrow. I knew this was a game and cut my losses and let her go. I would have had to spend some time and money on her and wasn't worth the effort given the mission objectives, limited time, and abundance of talent. She messaged me the next day but I ignored her.
Hung at the park and after about 1 hour spotted a young mulatto (Laura) and her friend. The friend was unattractive but Laura insisted that her friend can't be by herself so they immediately agreed to 100 K each for a threesome. Again my initial intro with the security guard paid off. One of the chicas didn't have her cedula but he let her in although he pulled me aside to tell me to be careful not to get tag teamed or robbed. I assured him 6 foot 4 and 260 lbs pal is upstairs and we're not newbies. While I fucked the 19 year old Laura (she sent me her cap & gown graduation picture this week) I had the ugly one suck and eat my balls and eventually cum on her face. For round 2 fingered and slapped her while fucking the other; neither was into the other girl. I also never allowed anyone of them be anywhere by themselves. A few minutes after they left, the guard came up to our place to check and make sure everything was OK. I slipped him another 20 K for looking out for us.
TadaiMaybe
11-24-18, 08:34
Did some touristy stuff like taking the metro and the cable cars to Parque Arvi. Visited Envigado Mall followed by a good filet mignon steak at Restaurant Mondongo, great service too. My buddy had to have a chica so we ended up at Conejitas again as soon as it opened and he went upstairs right away. I pulled one with a cute face but made a rookie mistake and didn't notice her baggy outfit. After the shower she wouldn't remove the towel until the lights were low and noticed serious baby damage, a turnoff for me. K9 ed the shit out of her til finish and no propina just the 70 K fee. Dinner at a nice restaurant near Park Lleras and ended up at another bar afterwards. The talent was amazing as any of the bars or clubs had several options even on a Sunday night. After two beers and repeated 250-300 K quotes we decided to just walk the area.
Ran into two very bubbly and giggly in normal clothes and not pro looking. Ended up going for a drink with them. One was a mulatto with big tits and the other with beautiful soft ivory skin, neither had make up or any type of enhancements; natural T and A and just absolutely beautiful, ages 23 and 25. I didn't realize but the blanca was more into my pal. My bud invites them to the apt and strikes a deal for 150 K each while I went to take a phone call and we head home. We had a beer and some snacks while looking at the views from our balcony then I take the blanca back to my room. She was a bit cold as I later realize she wanted to fuck my buddy. Anyway she wasn't into much DFK but the fuck was great. After I finished my buddy took her to his room for awhile and she gave him a BBBJ just as a favor. The dark one rebuffed my mild advances while I manhandled her tits but as a 50-some year old I had fucked two chicas today and didn't insist. The security guard told me they were Venezuelans after they left since he checked their ids. He asked me what we paid and seemed surprised that the damage was only 150.
TadaiMaybe
11-24-18, 08:42
Flight out of MDE early afternoon so the night before I arranged to have Laura the student to come at 9:00 for another round before we go for breakfast and airport. She showed up on time and my buddy wanted to fuck her instead. 10 minutes later he came out saying he didn't like the hanging skin on her snatch; picky man I think he had no appetite! I made the sacrifice and stepped up to the task. Laura wanted to stay and asked if I wanted another round but it was time to go. There will be another trip to MDE for certain hopefully longer than 3.5 days next time.
Observations which many of you probably already know:
-Use no foreign transaction fee credit cards for restaurants and you get the best exchange rate. A few restaurants add a surcharge for CC use but the menu should state it.
-No need for Colombia Cupid, FB, or other online methods unless your trip is sufficiently long. I wasted much time chatting up CC girls but the immediate on ground talent appeared just as good. Certainly a few gems can be found online but they consume effort and time and the outcome is not any more certain. My feeling is that the online ones are no more or less pro or semi-pro than what you might find in any of the bars.
-Most if not all of the high-end regular apartments prohibit escorts, loud parties, or drug use. However, friendliness and taking care of the security guards has tangible benefits. Just don't abuse the rules.
-Strip joints were a hit and miss, some cuties and not many beauties. Also be cautious of your surroundings.
-El Poblado seems to be where the new money is. Saw Ferrari, Hummer limos, Audi R8, Benz and beammers mostly Bogota plates. Also explains why some chicas wanted 400 K for an hour, albeit 9's. As a point of comparison, a SW in centro told my buddy 30 K.
-Taxis and metro are cheap and efficient. Make sure driver turns on the taxi meter, small screen right by the rearview mirror. Minimum fare is 5 K.
Hasideas Tao
11-24-18, 14:50
When I arrive at customs in Medellin, I usually have 2 or 3 liter bottles of alcohol.
Whats the most anyone has brought into Colombia without hassle? Please specify when it was.
On various information sites, I keep seeing 2 liters. But I have brought more than that on several occassions.
Just wonderring if anyone has ever hit the limit and got burned.
Thanks.
When I arrive at customs in Medellin, I usually have 2 or 3 liter bottles of alcohol.
Whats the most anyone has brought into Colombia without hassle? Please specify when it was.
On various information sites, I keep seeing 2 liters. But I have brought more than that on several occassions.
Just wonderring if anyone has ever hit the limit and got burned.
Thanks.If I recall the custom declaration form had no mention of alcohol. That would 'imply' there is no limit. I brought 2 one Lit bottles, no one checked anything.
With the exchange rate hovering around 3100-3200 and local places only giving 2850 its better to use CCs as long as your CC company doesn't charge an international fee. Make sure to be billed ok cop and your CC company will give the best exchange rate.Overall ATMs give you best rate and have best chance of no transaction fee (s). CC rewards 2% whatever, can be offset by rate / tran fees. Cash is the worst.
YMMV
Overall ATMs give you best rate and have best chance of no transaction fee (s). CC rewards 2% whatever, can be offset by rate / tran fees. Cash is the worst.
YMMVYes, the ATM debit card will give you the best exchange rate. But the credit card will also give you virtually the same exchange rate.
I take no chances, I read the fine print. If both cards charges no fees and if the ATM debit card refunds the foreign ATM charge, then both exchange rates are the virtually the same.
The credit card will have a better effective rate if you calculate the credit card rewards.
Yes, I know. This is the wrong thread for this discussion.
Black Page
11-24-18, 19:53
Yes, the ATM debit card will give you the best exchange rate. But the credit card will also give you virtually the same exchange rate.
Yes, I know. This is the wrong thread for this discussion.What you don't know is that the CREDIT function will charge 4% extra on top of all other fees and the slightly higher exchange rate. Pretty obvious, as with a DEBIT card you take your money from your bank account, with a CREDIT you BORROW it. They are lending you money and they charge a fee (VISA and MASTERCARD live on that).
NEVER NEVER use a credit card to get cash, unless one wants to borrow it because short of it. Always use a debit card.
Black Page
11-24-18, 20:07
From my personal experiences, they usually charge you in COP when not asking, but sometimes they charge in US dollar. That irritates me. I got tired of asking them to charge me in COP, but now I try to tell them to charge me in COP.
Some business owners will ask their employee to charge in US dollars. But most of the time, I think it's just ignorance of the employee.Totally true. Also some ATMs using the debit function ask with or without conversion to your currency. NEVER accept conversion paying with credit card or taking cash from ATM. The exchange rate is some 3% 4% worse. They offer clear charging in your currency for the sake of clearness, but it's a pricey "service".
I am very pissed off when the restaurant charges the amount on my VISA with conversion to EUR. As you say, they basically do it for ignorance.
I spent time trying to explain this to waiters and the lady at the cashier of Angus Brangus but they were just looking at me with politely dumb eyes.
The Tall Man
11-24-18, 21:48
Flight out of MDE early afternoon so the night before I arranged to have Laura the student to come at 9:00 for another round before we go for breakfast and airport. She showed up on time and my buddy wanted to fuck her instead. 10 minutes later he came out saying he didn't like the hanging skin on her snatch; picky man I think he had no appetite! I made the sacrifice and stepped up to the task. Laura wanted to stay and asked if I wanted another round but it was time to go. There will be another trip to MDE for certain hopefully longer than 3.5 days next time.
Observations which many of you probably already know:
-Use no foreign transaction fee credit cards for restaurants and you get the best exchange rate. A few restaurants add a surcharge for CC use but the menu should state it.
-No need for Colombia Cupid, FB, or other online methods unless your trip is sufficiently long. I wasted much time chatting up CC girls but the immediate on ground talent appeared just as good. Certainly a few gems can be found online but they consume effort and time and the outcome is not any more certain. My feeling is that the online ones are no more or less pro or semi-pro than what you might find in any of the bars.
-Most if not all of the high-end regular apartments prohibit escorts, loud parties, or drug use. However, friendliness and taking care of the security guards has tangible benefits. Just don't abuse the rules.
-Strip joints were a hit and miss, some cuties and not many beauties. Also be cautious of your surroundings.
-El Poblado seems to be where the new money is. Saw Ferrari, Hummer limos, Audi R8, Benz and beammers mostly Bogota plates. Also explains why some chicas wanted 400 K for an hour, albeit 9's. As a point of comparison, a SW in centro told my buddy 30 K.
-Taxis and metro are cheap and efficient. Make sure driver turns on the taxi meter, small screen right by the rearview mirror. Minimum fare is 5 K.So true - "No need for Colombia Cupid, FB, or other online methods unless your trip is sufficiently long. I wasted much time chatting up CC girls but the immediate on ground talent appeared just as good. Certainly a few gems can be found online but they consume effort and time and the outcome is not any more certain. My feeling is that the online ones are no more or less pro or semi-pro than what you might find in any of the bars. ".
Yes in years past I would start a month or so before my planned trip but every time I got so busy with other venues and chicas that I met and followed through with maybe 2 or 3 out of the bunch.
The Tall Man.
Mr Enternational
11-25-18, 00:52
So true - "No need for Colombia Cupid, FB, or other online methods unless your trip is sufficiently long. I wasted much time chatting up CC girls but the immediate on ground talent appeared just as good.I totally agree. I go online to find normal chicks to date. If I want a hooker in Colombia then I know where to find them cheap and without wasting tons of time. I have never understood preplotting hookers. For me, getting a hooker is more of a spur of the moment, on the spot, impulse purchase. I wouldn't plan particular ones weeks in advance.
SavePros321
11-25-18, 01:25
I totally agree. I go online to find normal chicks to date. If I want a hooker in Colombia then I know where to find them cheap and without wasting tons of time. I have never understood preplotting hookers. For me, getting a hooker is more of a spur of the moment, on the spot, impulse purchase. I wouldn't plan particular ones weeks in advance.You guys are probably not good at pre-planning then. There is nothing like setting up a harem weeks before your trip, getting down there and actually being in between your fantasy chick and getting around to 90% of your list.
Social media is only as good as you can work it. A grand piano in LeBron James's hands? Worth $0. A Grand Piano in Elton John's hands? Millions.
I met a "normal" chick in person once. We met and had wings. She had to go to a birthday party afterwards, so she left and I went back to my apartment and got back to trying to get to everyone in the harem. I could have smashed the next day I am positive (she was pissed that I didn't hit her up any more during my stay), but if you want to have a serious discussion about saving time, it ain't with "normal girls". With them I have to leave my place. With prepagos, the taxi shows up, she gets out. Taxi shows up, she gets in. With regulars and TLN we order in and get wasted.
If I were in the city for more than a month or two, I'd be all over the normal girl track. After a few days I am at the point that I've gotten rid of all the "thirst" built up while incarcerated in Sex Prison and can stand to be around a beautiful woman and not try to smash at first bat.
My 2 pesos.
Mr Enternational
11-25-18, 02:04
You guys are probably not good at pre-planning then. There is nothing like setting up a harem weeks before your trip, getting down there and actually being in between your fantasy chick and getting around to 90% of your list.
I do look for chicks online beforehand, but normal non-pros to date and get to know and do normal stuff with. Most of the time when I deal with hookers it is a one and done, so I don't put a bunch of stock into finding them and cultivating them. To me they are just like fast food.
NEVER NEVER use a credit card to get cash, unless one wants to borrow it because short of it. Always use a debit card.Yes. I thought that was obvious.
It seems I wasn't clear.
I meant that the best way to spend your money is to use your credit card at any business that accepts credit cards such as markets, restaurants, etc. instead of using cash.
Hesitating between these places.
I know Tijuana well and have been several times. My system is perfectly set up that I can bang 10 chicks a day if I want to there, without moving from the hotel. But I'm a bit bored of Tijuana and want to explore new horizons LOL.
-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
-My budget is flexible.
-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.
-Spanish level. Intermediate.
Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!
TadaiMaybe
11-25-18, 07:20
I totally agree. I go online to find normal chicks to date. If I want a hooker in Colombia then I know where to find them cheap and without wasting tons of time. I have never understood preplotting hookers. For me, getting a hooker is more of a spur of the moment, on the spot, impulse purchase. I wouldn't plan particular ones weeks in advance.Well-said and exactly to the point. In my case I had face timed with a lawyer, a boutique owner, a dentist, and some others over a couple months in advance having met them through social media. I got their WhatsApp, Instagram or FB and spent a fair deal of time making a personal connection with them, all "normal" people. Yet I reached the conclusion that my mission objective was to monger as much as possible and not date or find a girlfriend. After all said and done I was on the ground for 3 1/2 days and given the goal to satisfy my thirst as much as possible my approach had to accommodate this timeframe. That's why I abandoned the original social media approach.
Youratlman
11-26-18, 05:54
Hesitating between these places.
I know Tijuana well and have been several times. My system is perfectly set up that I can bang 10 chicks a day if I want to there, without moving from the hotel. But I'm a bit bored of Tijuana and want to explore new horizons LOL.
-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
-My budget is flexible.
-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.
-Spanish level. Intermediate.
Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!I've been to all 3 places many times. I love all of them. All of them have a unique aspect To them. Tijuana like you says has quick easy centralized fun. Sosua has the beach, clubs and overnight stays. Medellin has the city life Casas, strip clubs, bars and clubs. I recommend all three and go to the one that you have a craving for.
JamesPearle
11-26-18, 13:25
I met a "normal" chick in person once.
If I were in the city for more than a month or two, I'd be all over the normal girl track.A few years ago, I passed by a ridiculously hot girl in Panama standing outside the Trump casino talking to a friend. Seeing her, you'd never guess she was P4 P. You would guess some high-roller's girlfriend, wife or daughter. I eventually found out that she was P4 P and spent 2 nights with her. This girl was enthusiastically into anything and everything. Before leaving she connected to me on facebook with her real profile (family, friends, pets, dates, etc). I've glanced at her profile over the past few years and basically this girl's life outside of whatever time she spent / spends in Panama is "normal".
My point being. When prostitution is legal. I suspect most hot girls have used P4P (at least as a side gig) to supplement their income. Especially if they have kids.
The Tall Man
11-26-18, 19:25
I've been to all 3 places many times. I love all of them. All of them have a unique aspect To them. Tijuana like you says has quick easy centralized fun. Sosua has the beach, clubs and overnight stays. Medellin has the city life Casas, strip clubs, bars and clubs. I recommend all three and go to the one that you have a craving for.I ditto these statements to the tee! As I resided in years past in LOS Angeles I have spent considerable time from about 1999 to 2004 then again from 2009 through about 2016 in Tijuana, many many fine memories and some of the girls from long past at AB and HK I am still in contact from time to time if nothing else just to say Hello,.
Well also spent 2 weeks in Sosua about a year ago but as many of you know I reside in Medellin for the past 4 or 5 years, all 3 are different but my heart is, at least for the time being, centered on Medellin.
My advice is visit them all, I am glad I went to Cuba 3 years ago and Rio a few decades ago, heck don't rest just go do it and experience it.
Have fun!
The Tall Man.
-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
I think you should consider Santa Fe, Bogota.
Mr Enternational
11-27-18, 03:40
My point being. When prostitution is legal. I suspect most hot girls have used P4P (at least as a side gig) to supplement their income. Especially if they have kids.That is a ridiculous assumption.
That is a ridiculous assumption.I tend to agree if it is legal more women will use it as an outlet for income because they don't feel like they are doing anything wrong. Morally maybe but legally they can't be reprimanded.
El Mechanico
11-27-18, 14:56
I think you should consider Santa Fe, Bogota.Or The Mansion.
PirateMorgan
11-27-18, 17:49
Check out the fares. I did for February. Copa airlines from LOS Angeles and from Chicago.
TadaiMaybe
11-27-18, 21:42
Hesitating between these places.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
-My budget is flexible.
-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.
-Spanish level. Intermediate.
Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!An option in Medellin is the point-and-click convenience of the pros on Photoprepago (maybe even milerotics). Many of them visit your hotel or apt. Can also verify their looks via Skype or whatsapp.
Blue Touch
11-28-18, 06:51
Some academic study show influential factors including law, economic condition, region, etc. I remember educational factor is controversial. I guess quality of men is influential too.
That is a ridiculous assumption.
Hesitating between these places.
I know Tijuana well and have been several times. My system is perfectly set up that I can bang 10 chicks a day if I want to there, without moving from the hotel. But I'm a bit bored of Tijuana and want to explore new horizons LOL.
-Not looking for GFE or flirting / picking up non-pros.
-Only looking for pros, and don't like to move around too much. It's all about getting many girls a day, without wasting time, straight to the point.
-My budget is flexible.
-I enjoy my comfort aka having a nice hotel close to everything.
-Spanish level. Intermediate.
Did a bit of research and I'm open to both places (Medellin: casas + strip clubs) or Sosua (bars). Input? Thanks!If you want Tijuana, go to Tijuana. Anywhere else you won't find what you find in Tijuana. Too many guys complain that the new place they tried wasn't like the place they were used to.
It's been a few years since I visited Sosua. I had a good time, but I wasn't especially thrilled. The girls tend to be too pushy for my tastes. Being a bit forward is great. I appreciate a girl that can give me a look and let me know she's ready for me. I don't care for girls that are constantly grabbing or begging. The touts were easier to get rid of than some of the girls. One girl who I wasn't interested in my first night, approached me every time she saw me, begged, whined and complained. It didn't matter what I was doing either.
Medellin is a completely different animal. They have malls that are almost the size of Sosua. By my rating, 70% of the appropriate aged women in Sosua were 5's or 6's. In Medellin 70% are 7's, 8's or 9's.
There's a little game I play. Call it "would I hit it?" Walk around where the people are and count the women in the 18-35 range. Adjust ages for your preference. For each one, would you consider fucking her? Be honest. We've all lowered our standards a time or two. In the US, except for a few locations, I consistently score 3. That means for every 10 women in the age range, I'd only fuck 3. In Sosua, I'd put the number between 4 and 5. In Medellin, I consistently scored 7 or 8.
Those are numbers for normal locations, except for Sosua. There are no normal locations in Sosua. Walking through Raudal and Veracruz in Medellin, I score 3, sometimes less.
Advantages for Sosua: almost anywhere is close to everything. Hotel Europa is the farthest away and it's just a short walk.
Disadvantage: there's a mandatory negotiation process for each girl. Also, daytime your options are limited.
Advantages for Medellin: plenty of options day and night. Daytime there are several casas, with onsite rooms, all within walking distance of each other. That gives you 50-100 women to choose from within about a 5 block radius. At night there are several strip clubs within walking distance, depending on your comfort level, with onsite rooms and plenty of women to choose from. Then there are the online ads, photosprepagos and mileroticos. Add in a few hundred more options day or night. Prices range from $17-$70.
Disadvantage: If you want a nice, upscale hotel, you'll be staying away from the main action. There also may be issues with having guests. If you want to stay close to the action, a 2 star hotel is about the best you can get. However, if you get a nice hotel in Laureles, close to the Metro, you can be where the action is, in under 15 minutes, for less than $1.
If you're interested in high numbers, without a lot of wasted time, the casas in Medellin are probably your best bet. You could find 3 of your desired 10 a day in one casa. No negotiation, no pick up. Just sit down, pick one out of the lineup.
LoveItHere69
11-28-18, 20:51
My point being. When prostitution is legal. I suspect most hot girls have used P4P (at least as a side gig) to supplement their income. Especially if they have kids.Agreed.
South Koreans eats between 800,000-1,000,000 dogs a year. To eat dog there would may be frowned upon but acceptable. But in most Western countries you would be shunned and lose many friends. Same with Balot / Balut in the Philippines. I find it disgusting. But there it is normal and sold all over. Smoking marijuana in USA was looked upon very poorly when I was a kid, now it is becoming legal and normal, and in a few years it will be expected if you want to be cool. So the more people that do something the more accepted it is.
Hot Colombian women get hit on every day and know at least one hot friend, family member, or co-worker that has done P4P so it would be somewhat easy to accepted it and try it. If some guy she wants to sex says not only is he interested but is willing to sweeten the pot by paying her or buying her something. Then she now has two reasons to go for it and two excuses if her friends disagree. She can say she wanted to sex him anyways or take the other route and say I only sexed him for the money. Whatever excuse fits her needs. Very far from being ridiculous.
For me, if some chick I think looks kinda cute and has a great personality but chubby body that I am not really interested in offers me $100 USD to bang her. I might just do it because I am bored, too lazy to hunt that night, need the money, turned on because she wants me that bad, and / or I am just doing Gods work to help the less physically beautiful women.
We will be in Medellin February, and March of 2019. Let me know if you would like to join! Newbies welcomed.I'll be rolling into town on Jan 6th. Jan 19th. Going to spend 3 nights at The M and then have a 2 bedroom VRBO ground zero in Parque L for 9 nights.
El Mechanico
11-29-18, 16:15
I'll be rolling into town on Jan 6th. Jan 19th. Going to spend 3 nights at The M and then have a 2 bedroom VRBO ground zero in Parque L for 9 nights.When you are done with Ground Zero at Parque LLeras, go to the real Ground Zero, El Centro, then compare notes.
El Mechanico.
When you are done with Ground Zero at Parque LLeras, go to the real Ground Zero, El Centro, then compare notes.
El Mechanico.Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.
I need to buckle up and go next week.
El Mechanico
11-30-18, 16:52
Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.
I need to buckle up and go next week.I just replied to your PM. Maybe if PL is Ground Zero then El Centro is the Heart of the Beast. There are at least 6 MPs within a 2 block radius of Hotel Botero Plaza & Iglesia VeraCruz is about a less than 10 minute walk from there. Let us know how you do, thanks in advance and as usual, stay vigilant.
El Mechanico.
PepolesBuddy
11-30-18, 17:35
My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous.
I need to buckle up and go next week.You also have to be on guard at Lleras. Lots of pickpockets or prepagos trying to drug you. I almost had a mal parido pickpocket my cell phone. He was very slick.
He tried to distract me with a big pamphlet of shit and tried to rob my cell phone from my front pocket while looking at me in the eyes. I actually respect him for that and almost wanted to give him a tip😂 anyone can rob someone from the back or with a weapon. But it takes balls and cunning to look someone in the eyes and try to rob them face-to-face. He almost succeeded to but luckily I automatically moved my hands to my pockets and felt that he was trying to take my cell. My advice is when someone is coming close to you. Always have your hand on your valuables.
Agreed.
South Koreans eats between 800,000-1,000,000 dogs a year. To eat dog there would may be frowned upon but acceptable. But in most Western countries you would be shunned and lose many friends. Same with Balot / Balut in the Philippines. I find it disgusting. But there it is normal and sold all over. Smoking marijuana in USA was looked upon very poorly when I was a kid, now it is becoming legal and normal, and in a few years it will be expected if you want to be cool. So the more people that do something the more accepted it is.
Hot Colombian women get hit on every day and know at least one hot friend, family member, or co-worker that has done P4P so it would be somewhat easy to accepted it and try it. If some guy she wants to sex says not only is he interested but is willing to sweeten the pot by paying her or buying her something. Then she now has two reasons to go for it and two excuses if her friends disagree. She can say she wanted to sex him anyways or take the other route and say I only sexed him for the money. Whatever excuse fits her needs. Very far from being ridiculous.
For me, if some chick I think looks kinda cute and has a great personality but chubby body that I am not really interested in offers me $100 USD to bang her. I might just do it because I am bored, too lazy to hunt that night, need the money, turned on because she wants me that bad, and / or I am just doing Gods work to help the less physically beautiful women.There's one word you need to learn and add before this makes any sense: "some."
"Some hot Colombian women get hit on every day."
"Some hot Colombian women know at least one hot friend, family member or co-worker who has done P4P."
I can guarantee that not all hot Colombian women will find it easy to accept P4P. They will not all try to justify it to their friends. They will not all make excuses to their friends to justify it.
I know a few hot Colombian women. I shared an apartment with 1 for 10 months. I worked with several others. I talked with, drank with and hung out with several more. Some of them have no problem with P4P. Some of them know girls who do P4P. And some of them will either slap you in the face, kick you in the balls or scream bloody murder if you offer them money or some gift for sex.
Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.
Trying to convince people that any hot Colombian woman will be happy to be offered money for sex is not only ridiculous, it's dangerous. There are a lot of Colombian women who don't like being treated like prostitutes and a lot of Colombian men who don't like foreigners treating their wives, girlfriends, sisters or cousins like prostitutes.
It's quite simple. If you see a Colombian you are interested in, say Hello,. Talk to them. Colombians are generally friendly. If they seem interested, try inviting them to lunch or coffee. Talk, have a conversation and see where it goes. If she's interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know. If she's willing to take money from you and pretend to be interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know.
Why do you say that. I get that some apartment owner / leasers are a bit hokey with the ground zero mirage they paint renting Lleres apartments but Centro seems like a relatively low rent scene by day and by night only several well known strip clubs and I imagine a few other less populated establishments. My perception is you have to always be on guard and the streets at night are truly dangerous. To me ground zero seems like the center of the action. Lleres would be considered center of or ground zero of Medellin's paisa locals scene but surely less opportunity for mongers than a single club like Fase. True? Centro seems like a scene all to itself but not a large scene.
I need to buckle up and go next week.I think he says that because Parque Lleras isn't ground zero. Unless the action you're looking for is old gringos, who seek out other old gringos to complain that there are too many gringos.
Parque Lleras is a nice area. It's an area where you can act like you do at home and get away with it. There are plenty of restaurants, mostly overpriced. There are plenty of clubs with overpriced drinks. If you hang out late at night there are several women, mostly overpriced, who will be happy to take some of your money.
No. Ground zero is definitely El Centro. There are 8 or 9 strip clubs (although only 3 get mentioned), 15-20 casas (only a few get mentioned), a few blocks of streetwalkers and 30 or 40 bars where women of negotiable affection hang out. During the day, there's shopping, for anything you can imagine. Need a live chicken? An industrial sewing machine? A wrought iron gate? Anything you want, need or can think of, there are a dozen stores in El Centro selling it. There's museums and parks and restaurants.
Yes, El Centro can be dangerous. You can't pretend you're walking down the Las Vegas strip at 3 am. It's not a good place to be drunk and stupid.
Parque Lleras isn't the center of the local Paisa scene. When my friend's family came to visit for Christmas last year, where do you think they wanted to go? El Centro. They wanted to see the heart of the city, not another zona rosa. A lot of Paisas go to Lleras for special occasions, but most will go to a different area for their regular entertainment. There's a local scene in Bello, Boston, Envigado, 3 or more in Laureles, 1 or 2 in Itagui and at least 2 in El Centro.
BeersTerry
11-30-18, 20:21
The difficult thing about centro for most people is knowing which streets you can walk on and which ones you can't. It was hard for me until Vegas Jeff walked me through through the city. You could be walking along the street and just have to know that you should not cross onto the other side.
Another thing is that streets change from being safe during the day and dangerous at night. For example the street that the police station is on, safe during the day and dangerous at night. With exception of the block the station is on as the police block off the street with personnel posted everywhere so that you can only walk it.
Want to get mugged? Walk around at dusk with flip flops and shorts.
Vegas Jeff's theory is that Lleras was more dangerous for being mugged. Muggers are not on their turf and hence are a little more edgy/nervous. As such, any wrong moves, fast moves, sudden moves can trigger catastrophic events such as shootings or stabblings.
Mr Enternational
11-30-18, 23:53
Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.Funny thing how mfs spend time on a corner full of hookers then they know the entire country is full of hookers. Same thing used to happen in Rio. When you get out and meet regular people you tend to know better. In Colombia I have fucked way more women that are not hookers than women that are hookers.
If you want Tijuana, go to Tijuana. Anywhere else you won't find what you find in Tijuana...I think I am fairly familiar with both Tijuana and Medellin. I have taken a good many mongering trips to both places, and I enjoyed both. No reason to expect the same type of fun in every city. Each place has its own unique characteristics, but can be enjoyed equally.
Likewise, I went to Sosua once and I enjoyed my time there.
I think I am fairly familiar with both Tijuana and Medellin. I have taken a good many mongering trips to both places, and I enjoyed both. No reason to expect the same type of fun in every city. Each place has its own unique characteristics, but can be enjoyed equally.
Likewise, I went to Sosua once and I enjoyed my time there.Certainly. Each place can be great, but each place is different. That's what some people don't understand. The difference can throw some people off. For example, in Sosua you just say no to a bunch of women until you spot one you want. In a lot of places in Medellin, you can be surrounded by hookers and other than a few looks and smiles most of them will just wait for you to make a move.
LoveItHere69
12-01-18, 15:28
Jjbee62,
I never meant to imply every girl is a hooker. My point was (1) That if your friends partake in certain things that you have not then you are more apt to try also. Example is I know guys that would never eat Balut in their countries but after seeing so many girls eat it they decided to try it. It does not mean everyone will, or they will do it regularly. (2) If the society you are visiting accepts certain things that you are more apt to try it. Example is I would never try a prostitute in my country but would in another because I do not want to shit where I eat. Ever hear the saying, " When In Rome"?
Think of this. A girl from the farmlands comes to the big city is not going to try prostitution. It is foreign and scary thought to her. But a sales lady with a booth next to a short time hotel talks to some of her customers from time to time who happen to be street. The sales lady hears how much money is made and seen that several of the guys actually look handsome. She thinks maybe sometime I will try it if a handsome guy were to hit on her. In my example, I am not saying all sales ladies are for sale am I?
Let me further clarify. Hot sexy women in the "Play Areas" such as discos, bars, Parque Lleras are hit on every night I am sure. I did not mean every girl walking down the average street.
Mr Enternational
12-01-18, 20:10
The sales lady hears how much money is made and seen that several of the guys actually look handsome. She thinks maybe sometime I will try it if a handsome guy were to hit on her. In my example, I am not saying all sales ladies are for sale am I?No. But you are still not making sense. You are assuming that money is everything and morals are nothing. If a handsome guy hit on her maybe she will be thinking that she would like to be in a stable relationship and would like to go out with the guy to find out what he is about. I know plenty of girls that will fuck guys because they want to fuck and will not accept money for fucking BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOOKERS!
One of my girls in Peru keeps asking when I am going to have friends come with me because she wants to be tied up and gangbanged. But that does not mean she wants to use it as a money making opportunity, because she is simply not a hooker.
No. But you are still not making sense. You are assuming that money is everything and morals are nothing. If a handsome guy hit on her maybe she will be thinking that she would like to be in a stable relationship and would like to go out with the guy to find out what he is about. I know plenty of girls that will fuck guys because they want to fuck and will not accept money for fucking BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOOKERS!
One of my girls in Peru keeps asking when I am going to have friends come with me because she wants to be tied up and gangbanged. But that does not mean she wants to use it as a money making opportunity, because she is simply not a hooker.It's heartening to know that there are still girls with this kind of upstanding morals!
Balimassage
12-02-18, 04:49
Anyone know any gals that can DT? Send me a PM or share with the team. Love the Colombian ladies but BJ's don't seem to be their forte.
I've been to all 3 places many times. I love all of them. All of them have a unique aspect To them. Tijuana like you says has quick easy centralized fun. Sosua has the beach, clubs and overnight stays. Medellin has the city life Casas, strip clubs, bars and clubs. I recommend all three and go to the one that you have a craving for.Appreciate the input. Can't lie, definitely leaning toward Medellin.
I ditto these statements to the tee! As I resided in years past in LOS Angeles I have spent considerable time from about 1999 to 2004 then again from 2009 through about 2016 in Tijuana, many many fine memories and some of the girls from long past at AB and HK I am still in contact from time to time if nothing else just to say Hello,.
Well also spent 2 weeks in Sosua about a year ago but as many of you know I reside in Medellin for the past 4 or 5 years, all 3 are different but my heart is, at least for the time being, centered on Medellin..Thanks! Where would you advise staying at in Medellin? I don't mind paying a bit more for something central near the action (casas, stripclubs) and nicer.
Or The Mansion.Looking into that, didn't find much info on the mansion online.
An option in Medellin is the point-and-click convenience of the pros on Photoprepago (maybe even milerotics). Many of them visit your hotel or apt. Can also verify their looks via Skype or whatsapp.Thanks. I'm coming from Canada where escorts are pretty common so not looking for so much of that in Medellin.
If you want Tijuana, go to Tijuana. Anywhere else you won't find what you find in Tijuana. Too many guys complain that the new place they tried wasn't like the place they were used to.
It's been a few years since I visited Sosua. I had a good time, but I wasn't especially thrilled. The girls tend to be too pushy for my tastes. Being a bit forward is great. I appreciate a girl that can give me a look and let me know she's ready for me. I don't care for girls that are constantly grabbing or begging. The touts were easier to get rid of than some of the girls. One girl who I wasn't interested in my first night, approached me every time she saw me, begged, whined and complained. It didn't matter what I was doing either.
Medellin is a completely different animal. They have malls that are almost the size of Sosua. By my rating, 70% of the appropriate aged women in Sosua were 5's or 6's. In Medellin 70% are 7's, 8's or 9's.
There's a little game I play. Call it "would I hit it?" Walk around where the people are and count the women in the 18-35 range. Adjust ages for your preference. For each one, would you consider fucking her? Be honest. We've all lowered our standards a time or two. In the US, except for a few locations, I consistently score 3. That means for every 10 women in the age range, I'd only fuck 3. In Sosua, I'd put the number between 4 and 5. In Medellin, I consistently scored 7 or 8..Thanks for this info, much appreciated. Sounds like casas during the day and strip clubs at night is the way to go (not interested too much in escorts, I have that back at home). Which hotels would you recommend, right in the action?
By the way, I tried to send a PM but am unable to do so. Anyone know why?
SpiderRider
12-02-18, 16:40
There's one word you need to learn and add before this makes any sense: "some."
"Some hot Colombian women get hit on every day."
"Some hot Colombian women know at least one hot friend, family member or co-worker who has done P4P."
I can guarantee that not all hot Colombian women will find it easy to accept P4P. They will not all try to justify it to their friends. They will not all make excuses to their friends to justify it.
I know a few hot Colombian women. I shared an apartment with 1 for 10 months. I worked with several others. I talked with, drank with and hung out with several more. Some of them have no problem with P4P. Some of them know girls who do P4P. And some of them will either slap you in the face, kick you in the balls or scream bloody murder if you offer them money or some gift for sex.
Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.
Trying to convince people that any hot Colombian woman will be happy to be offered money for sex is not only ridiculous, it's dangerous. There are a lot of Colombian women who don't like being treated like prostitutes and a lot of Colombian men who don't like foreigners treating their wives, girlfriends, sisters or cousins like prostitutes.
It's quite simple. If you see a Colombian you are interested in, say Hello,. Talk to them. Colombians are generally friendly. If they seem interested, try inviting them to lunch or coffee. Talk, have a conversation and see where it goes. If she's interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know. If she's willing to take money from you and pretend to be interested in having sex with you, she'll let you know.Excellent response.
Black Page
12-02-18, 19:47
There's one word you need to learn and add before this makes any sense: "some."
(....)
Here's the trap too many mongers fall into: they start to think every woman in whatever country is a prostitute. They try to rationalize it, because all the women they spend time with accept money for sex. Whether it's legal or not, it's not universally acceptable.
(....)Excellent, excellent response (yes, I like to repeat).
Let me add: SOME men go mongering, SOME men find acceptable to pay for play.
Now imagine a girl from Gusto or Mansion who comes to meet you in your home town in Arizona (an example, I don't know where you or the OP are from). She meets you at lunch, at the diner out of your Church after the Sunday celebration, and begins to make propostions to everyone, assuming that all gringoes are the same style mongerers she is used to meet in MDE.
To be frank, I bet not even a single girl I met in my regular business life in Medellin would be happy to hear me offering money in change of sex favours. I recommend to be very cautious.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 02:34
Now imagine a girl from Gusto or Mansion who comes to meet you in your home town in Arizona (an example, I don't know where you or the OP are from). She meets you at lunch, at the diner out of your Church after the Sunday celebration, and begins to make propostions to everyone, assuming that all gringoes are the same style mongerers she is used to meet in MDE.
LOL. You are crazy man. I just don't see the logic. You are out searching for hookers and finding hookers. How does that mean the women that you are not searching for that are not hookers, want to be hookers as well? That is when it is time to step away from the hobby for a minute.
So does the elusive mansion have a website. Or where can I find relevant info on them (without having to go back over the history of this board)?
So does the elusive mansion have a website. Or where can I find relevant info on them (without having to go back over the history of this board)?I believe this is their website.
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/
There is a Mansion sub-forum here:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin
Husker Dude
12-03-18, 04:26
So does the elusive mansion have a website. Or where can I find relevant info on them (without having to go back over the history of this board)?Website is www.hotelmedellinplaza.com It only shows the rooms and prices & reservations. No mention of " other activities".
MedellinGringo
12-03-18, 08:39
No. But you are still not making sense. You are assuming that money is everything and morals are nothing. If a handsome guy hit on her maybe she will be thinking that she would like to be in a stable relationship and would like to go out with the guy to find out what he is about. I know plenty of girls that will fuck guys because they want to fuck and will not accept money for fucking BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HOOKERS!
One of my girls in Peru keeps asking when I am going to have friends come with me because she wants to be tied up and gangbanged. But that does not mean she wants to use it as a money making opportunity, because she is simply not a hooker.Some times hookers aren't even hookers.
I befriended a younger gringo a few years ago in Medellin. I saw him out with a chick that I knew to be a prepago. The next time I saw the guy I asked him how it went with the chick he was with. And he told me that she was cool but that she didn't put out on the first date.
I said "What? That chick is a prepago".
The guy didn't believe me. So I showed him some pics I had of her and then he believed me.
The guy told me "why didn't she just tell me. I would have paid her. ".
So the guy calls the chick up and makes her an offer and she denies she is a hooker. Says she has no idea what he is talking about. And then she called me up and cursed me out like I have never been cursed out before.
Even chicks that are hookers are only hookers when they want to be.
Black Page
12-03-18, 10:39
LOL. You are crazy man.I tend to agree on this, but, apart from that, my point (I admit the paradox was too strong maybe) was to reinforce the concept that just some Colombian girls are hookers (a small minority actually), as well as just some men are in our hobby.
Our mindset is not to be generalized.
I wish to travel to Peru with you, BTW.
LoveItHere69
12-03-18, 17:36
MedellinGringo,
I feel bad that the young guy did not know she was prepago and his bubble was burst. She must have really liked him to give it for free and to cuss the other guy out for ratting her out. Kinda proves my point is that you never know about people. I am sure most of the co-workers, friends, and family of the guys on this very board assume we (here on ISG) are all good wholesome guys. For all you guys that say BS, please explain why your board name is not your real name (first and last)? Most women are working girls you just need to find the right price. In USA, I am sure if I walked up to a woman and offered her a car up to $50,000 for sex that 80% would jump at the chance. You just need to prove that 1. You will pay and 2. Nobody will find out.
My first time in Medellin, this is a guide for newbie like me with little Spanish based on my one time experience. I think I don't see the full picture of the girls offered but I have a good idea of the service and hardware offered so that will be the emphasis of this report. I break up my reports by category so I can complete them one by one, this is for massage places.
If you don't know Spanish, you need to know these words: fria (cold), caliente (hot), ducha (shower). None of the 3 places has reliable hot water. I shower in cold water most of the times.
New Life
Ring the bell[/*]
A man on the second floor patio asked "chica"?[/*]
I was invited to sit in a semi enclosed area with bench seat.[/*]
The man converse with me using a translator app.[/*]
Girls came one by one to shake my hand and tell me their names.[/*]
I pick the 3rd without seeing the whole line up. I think her name is Solamin or something like that. Next time I will see the whole line up first.[/*]
The chosen girl came to take you to a room.[/*]
Shower by myself.[/*]
Have sex (I suggest to avoid any upsell if you don't have Spanish).[/*]
Pay at the counter after finish.[/*]
I think because it was late so they forgot to ask if I want to order a drink.
In the room I quickly agree to BBBJ for 50 K. She asked if I was clean when I was already showered and naked on the bed. Strange question but I replied yes, and used the translator app to confirm. After a long pause, I asked what is included in the 50 K /30 minutes. She said massage, BJ, sex, all covered. I said I just want that and don't want extra. This got her attention. She brought the price down to 40 K. I said no. She lowered to 30 K. I decided to play with her so I said 20 K. She insisted 30 K was the lowest and I agreed. The sex part is so so, and I am ready to pack and go home, LOL.
The lesson I learned from the interaction is if the girl plays dumb, ask what is included to take control of the situation.
Energy
It is on a busy street. The doormat has the word "energy" on it.[/*]
One by one girl came out to show her body tell me her number and name in Spanish. I like a few of them.[/*]
I pick 45 because she is cute and she emphasize her number in English to me. 27 yrs old.[/*]
Pay 153 K for the service and the coke.[/*]
45 came out to take me to the room.[/*]
Shower together.[/*]
Sex[/*]
Leave[/*]
After shower, she gave me a body slide and ask me to look into the mirror while she was doing it.
Next we got into doggy position, she asked me to grab her hair to ride her like riding a horse. That is the best I can describe it. I think you should get the idea what kind of session this is. It was fun but I could not last long and had to pause from time to time because she the hand job she gave me before already bring me close to the edge. It was a really fun session.
Loutron
I got there by metro and taxi. Don't be dropped off on the main street, ask the driver to turn right into the road to take you all the way to the top to Loutron.
The place is mansion. I am asked to sit on the sofa behind a screen.[/*]
Order a coke.[/*]
One by one girl came out to show her body tell me her number and name in Spanish. Again, there are several I liked.[/*]
I picked Fernanda, 31 yr old.[/*]
Pay 295 K for one hour service and the coke.[/*]
Fernanda took me to the room.[/*]
Cold shower by myself, can't get hot water working.[/*]
Sex.[/*]
Leave after sex using the on site driver. The driver uses a "Meter" app on his phone which costs more than 22 K to the nearest metro. You should negotiate the price to about 10 K before taking it.[/*]
There is not much to write about the service except Fernanda is nice. She rubbed my back and play my balls a little, then sex, that's it.
My conclusion is that I will be back only for FS but I won't be back to these places for massage. I think Loutron has the best looking girls, but is way overpriced for what is offered. I got a (used?) wet towel, the hot water took forever to come so I have cold water shower.
I am Chinese. I will make a comparison to give newbie a context. I rate the sexual massage part of the service before actual sex to be 3 at most in the above places. In Bangkok MPs that are operated by Japanese with at least one Japanese manager on site, I consistently get 8 to 10. If you been there or have experienced Chinese style sauna, then you know what I am talking about.
ClamSlammer
12-03-18, 20:37
Some times hookers aren't even hookers.
I befriended a younger gringo a few years ago in Medellin. I saw him out with a chick that I knew to be a prepago. The next time I saw the guy I asked him how it went with the chick he was with. And he told me that she was cool but that she didn't put out on the first date.
I said "What? That chick is a prepago".
The guy didn't believe me. So I showed him some pics I had of her and then he believed me.
The guy told me "why didn't she just tell me. I would have paid her. ".
So the guy calls the chick up and makes her an offer and she denies she is a hooker. Says she has no idea what he is talking about. And then she called me up and cursed me out like I have never been cursed out before.
Even chicks that are hookers are only hookers when they want to be.Your friend's behavior is quite astounding. He's gotten to first base with a chica many men would be willing to pay for and is well on his way to unlimited free sex. Then he intentionally screws it all up by offering to pay for each and every future session?
ClamSlammer
12-03-18, 21:04
So does the elusive mansion have a website. Or where can I find relevant info on them (without having to go back over the history of this board)?I stayed in M2 about two years ago so this info may be dated. Both M1 and M2 are converted mansions. They are huge. The bedrooms have been converted into hotels rooms with private baths. They are not that well-kept and could use some touch-ups and maybe even renovations. But they are far from run-down or dingy. M1 and M2 are about a 5-8 minute walk apart. M1 is definitely the more desirable location since that is where the chicas hang out during the day at the pool. Hence it sells out way faster than M2. Chicas don't hang out at M2 at all. They just go there for a session and leave.
The basement of M1 there is a homemade bar called "La Cueva." Only registered guests and invited chicas may enter. I like this entrance policy as it keeps away the riff-raff from the streets and feels more like a private club. The bar itself is about what you'd expect if a wealthy homeowner converted his basement into a bar. It is adequate for its purpose. It opens in the evening, I forget what time and closes early morning. Drinks are cheap. The chica drinks are priced the same as monger drinks. The bartender often will give away shots of Don Julio throughout the evening. The bartender during my visit, Carolina, was absolutely stunning and ruined my appetite for the other chicas. She was the GF of one of the owners so strictly off-limits. I would have paid $600 USD for an hour-she was that stunning. And I'm cheaper than 90% of the mongers on this board.
If you're in MDE strictly to monger with convenience, Mansion may be your best option. It can't get more convenient than in-house putas. While I was there, weeknights in La Cueva there would be around 8-12 chicas. Friday night maybe 25-30. Saturday night it was dead, maybe 5, because that is considered "date night" and the putas are out with their real novios. I will say the chicas were the vast majority 18-20 y / o. And they acted their age, all giggly and kind of stupid. I would happily stay there again if not for the high cost. Rooms approached $100 USD / night. I stayed at a new, clean hotel in Centro earlier in my trip for $11 USD / night. I can't justify the extra cost of staying at Mansion again, especially since I enjoy hitting the strip clubs and my Spanish is more than adequate.
....................So the guy calls the chick up and makes her an offer and she denies she is a hooker. Says she has no idea what he is talking about. And then she called me up and cursed me out like I have never been cursed out before......................I totally agree with the girl. Its best the guy learn from experience.
Mr Enternational
12-03-18, 22:04
I am sure most of the co-workers, friends, and family of the guys on this very board assume we (here on ISG) are all good wholesome guys. For all you guys that say BS, please explain why your board name is not your real name (first and last)?Sure? Really? Well I have mongered with coworkers, friends and relatives, so... The first thing me, my dad, my cousin, and my uncle did when I got out of Navy bootcamp in San Diego umpteen years ago was go to Tijuana looking for hookers. My dad has been to Medellin, Bogota, Rio, Dominican Republic, Cuba, Philippines, and Thailand with me SEVERAL TIMES. Several board members have met my dad.
My mom and her sisters have been in the clubs in Pattaya with me. My brother is on the way here to Thailand in 3 days. My other 2 brothers have already been here several times. Boardmember Tomjackin met one of my female coworkers when we ran into him in Hong Kong Club in Tijuana. And after that me and her went and got a street girl together.
Someone would not put their real name here because there is more to worry about than coworkers, friends, and family. Hell. A coworker is the one who told me about ISG. I wouldn't have even known the website existed. Nobody here is doing nothing special or nothing new under the sun.
Your friend's behavior is quite astounding. He's gotten to first base with a chica many men would be willing to pay for and is well on his way to unlimited free sex. Then he intentionally screws it all up by offering to pay for each and every future session?I don't think so. He probably just wanted to fuck her and why spend all that time when she is probably available for around 50-70 USD?
It's not like he can't get on to the next one, and the next one might not be a prostitute which is available for relatively little money.
And who says that he wants to fuck her more than once?
PolloNegro
12-04-18, 01:52
This was my last trip to Medellin this year and my 17 time this year being in Colombia. After all of those trips to Medellin you build up a list of girls who will do and want do. I've invested more money in Medellin than I ever thought I would have invested in one city outside of the USA So since October 4th, I have been communicating with several girls I met, several girls who live near my Condo in Robledo and several girls I met in the neighborhood of my girlfriend. So I lined up these 3 sisters, 3 blood sisters, same mom, and same dad. How do I know, my girlfriend told me they were sisters, their Cedula's all have the same last name and they all look a like, very much alike. If you like chics under 5 ft, with or without a big ass, or with some meat on their bones or without any meat on their bones (Spinner), then one of the sisters is for you.
I called the main sister on whatsapp and made it very clear to her about what I expected. I was not shy about everything that I wanted, I told them that I wanted them to have sex with each other, I wanted them to eat each other out and I wanted them to allow me to bang one sister while the other two sisters licked me clean. I allowed them to give me their price, and I countered. To actually bang 3 sisters at one time, this was a great time to be had. I actually kept the 3 sisters for 3 days and took my time and got them out of my system. I really banged them to pieces, I was exhausted, I mean straight up exhausted. Before anyone asks me, no I did not take them to my condo, and I did not get them from my neighborhood, but from my girlfriend's neighborhood. I don't mind reading all the clutter on the board, but when I first joined the board back in Feb of 2018, it was filled with information about available girls. No one was complaining about prices or Centro. I went to Poblado for the first time on this trip and ended up having to call the cops to get rid of a girl who was running a scam with the police and I still stood my ground and told that "chic" she wasn't getting paid if I decide that I no longer wanted to take her to bed. The chic was trying to run game and make me pay for session that I no longer wanted and no sex had taken place. Board members beware, I knew I should have stayed away from Gringoland "Poblado" This is what was said, she was willing to "service" me for an agreed amount and I also agreed, this is what she was telling the police. They tried to make me pay her and make me have sex with her because of our "verbal agreement!" so beware, I told her and the cops, I will give you 50 mil and nothing more, the arguing went back and forth until I flagged a taxi got in and left everyone there, I haven't seen or heard from the girl or the cops, but fellow board members beware, do not agree on a set amount until you are sure that you want to bang the chic. These chics are in bed with these local police, do not forget that, this only confirms my suspicions. Back to Centro I head, where I had a room. So I call up these two other sisters, get this, one of these vera cruz sisters, true blood sisters, is pregnant and doesn't want to let her sister see her fucking while she's pregnant. My sinister side took over and told me to offer them a little more than I normally offer for a threesome, this was a three and a halfsome. LOL no lie, no lie. I took my time and banged them for about 8 to 10 hours and then I told them they could leave. They were not the most beautiful of the girl's I have banged but how often do you get to bang two sisters and one is pregnant. Now get this, the three sisters that I banged, I had banged the 2 older sisters separately, but I found out that they had a younger sister and she turned 18 in August. I did not know that It took 2 months to receive your cedula in hand. So I told the main sister that if the 18 year old did not have her cedula before I arrived, I would not see any of the sisters at all. What do you know, the main sister sent me a copy of the cedula before I arrived in Medellin. A family full of loose women, I love it, I absolutely loved it. I respect a loose woman who has sisters that are loose, it tells me that the behavior is just in the genes. As always, I don't do the talking and complaining, I have pics and video, I just video catalog all of my adventures. If you want to peak and want information on these chics, just PM I will send you some pics and some edited video. You must have whatsapp, everything else is just too complicated to send pics and video. Happy mongering and enjoy Medellin until I return next year. I will do things differently in 2019, but 2018 was a blast. Thanks to all who helped me in my quest to learn Medellin, it is a beautiful city and it was a crazy year, you all be safe! PolloNegro is out.
Ikaroswhite
12-04-18, 02:34
A few years ago, I passed by a ridiculously hot girl in Panama standing outside the Trump casino talking to a friend. Seeing her, you'd never guess she was P4 P. You would guess some high-roller's girlfriend, wife or daughter. I eventually found out that she was P4 P and spent 2 nights with her. This girl was enthusiastically into anything and everything. Before leaving she connected to me on facebook with her real profile (family, friends, pets, dates, etc). I've glanced at her profile over the past few years and basically this girl's life outside of whatever time she spent / spends in Panama is "normal".
My point being. When prostitution is legal. I suspect most hot girls have used P4P (at least as a side gig) to supplement their income. Especially if they have kids.I will be in PC December 24-26. If anyone is interested in hunting together please let me know.
I am considering staying at the Hilton or Astoria, will I have any trouble bringing girls there?
James, any contact info for some of these girls that you can share?
For the first timer, it is best to find a seat by the wall in the strip club so you can observe girls coming and going. It is harder to see available girls if you sit near the stage.
La Isla
I think you can only get there by car. You can leave the club via the door to the hotel to view the city from above outside. I saw the firework with everyone in the club at midnight and it was spectacular.
Pay 10K cover to the bouncer at door, he will put a paper wrist bracelet on your wrist. [/*]
Enter [/*]
The bar is to the right by the entrance, the rest room is to your left. The entry to the hotel is at the opposite end of the entrance on the right. [/*]
Find a seat [/*]
Order a drink, beer, water and Gatorade are the same price 25K. I dont want to drink so I order water but it is a small bottle so I switch to Gatorade the next time. [/*]
watch the striper dancing on stage[/*]
The striper will make a round to collect tips. 2K is the standard. The bar has a cash counting machine with a large supply of 2K bills. I go there to change 50K at a time. I met and sat with two Colombian men. They keep a large stack of 2K bills on the table to give to the strippers. [/*]
if you find a girl, you pay 300K to the bar for 45 minutes. I am not sure if the time is enforced [/*]
Girl takes you to the hotel[/*]
You can order a drink in the room. I ordered two drinks for 30K total. [/*]
Sex[/*]
Go back to the club after[/*]
This is my favorite place in Medellin. The main reason is I get the services I want here and the room is clean. There is no pressure to get drinks. It is better to go on Weekends for large selection.
I know it is more expensive on the surface but this is the way I look at it. The actual cost for me is a function of the following:
money spent [/*]
Non-monetary effort, the amount of time it takes to get the girl. For me this is a negative cost, but it may be a positive number for you[/*]
number of shots, maybe number of hours together [/*]
success rate or enjoyment level[/*]
I was invited by two Colombian men to join their table the last night I was there. They asked which girl I wanted. I pointed to a slender one and they rejected it because her ass is small. They proceed to get me two different girls with "culo grande". They told me they would pay for it and show me Isla receipt which says they have fund available in the millions. I did approached the slender girl but was rejected. I asked the bar girl sitting with us to ask why, she told me it is because she was sick.
My new friends get every stripper asking for tip to sit on my lap or rub their breast against my face and stuff like that. Originally, I thought girls here are all plastic, but after touching and grabbing so many of them all night, it is safe to say there is still a large percentage that are natural.
It was near closing time, they insist to have their driver take me back to my hotel so I stayed. After the club was closed, they took me to the club in the same building next door. This place has a dance floor and a bar. There are more girls than men. The drive told me this is "la noche de las chicas malas". They paid for everything so I don't know the cost. The whole time I felt kind of stupid. There was a beautiful girl sitting at the bar clearly winked at me when I entered but I did not know what to do because I can't speak Spanish. I also noticed that girls behave very differently with Colombian men. They seem to get GFE naturally with the girls come sitting with us.
This place is similar to Hong Kong club in Tijuana. Assuming girl quality is the same, here is my comparison.
Better at Hong Kong club:
strip show[/*]
Better at La Isla
No tip, drink or lady drink pressure. The staff behave like what you would expect from a high end place [/*]
Better girls to men ratio on weekend. HK club is standing room only on weekends. [/*]
Rooms are cleaner [/*]
easier to get GFE, BBBJ[/*]
Cheaper [/*]
Fase II
I did not pull any girl here. The best thing is that most girls seem to be natural without surgery. The bad thing is girls constantly hassle me for drinks. They also provide a car but they won't tell me the cost so I hopped on a taxi in front when I left.
Conejitas
I did not pull any girl here but I was here a few times. Girls don't bother me much. The drink is cheap but I think I was charged with different prices (maybe 5 K and 6 K) at different time. I visited this bar whenever I want to find a place to sit in Centro after all the walking. I will visit again if I am nearby.
Barra Ejecutiva
This is a large place. The bar is at the opposite end of the entrance. I think the girl quality is better than Conejitas on the night I was there. Drink is more expensive, 10 K for a coke. I did not stay long.
I use Hotel Nutibara Medellin as a center of reference for el Centro for the following purposes.
To move between strip clubs, see the route in the map attached [/*]
Wait for Uber or Taxi in front [/*]
The shuttle to the airport is behind the hotel [/*]
For comparison purpose, I think the bars in Santa Fe, Bogota has better and larger selection of girls than the bars listed above except La Isla. This maybe because Santa Fe bars also have street girls in them.
Gusto
Not a strip bar, I visited a few times to check it out and relax. I see many not so good looking girls here but also a few good looking ones that are occupied. Drinks are not that expensive for the setup. Cook is 4 K. Whisky and Coke is 25 K, tip included.
photoprepagos
Made an appointment with a Venezolana in Laureles where I stayed at the time. She flaked when I arrived at the appointment time. I just took a taxi to Energy. Later I asked why, she replied via a voice recording explaining she fall asleep. I don't understand the recording but Hasideas Tao came to rescue to explain the content to me. It is good to get some help from people who can speak Spanish if you want to use photoprepagos. I made another appointment with her. The session was a meh. The girl has a good body and pretty face but don't know how to have sex. Her ad is no longer on the photoprepagos site.
SteelBaton
12-04-18, 08:12
My first time in Medellin, this is a guide for newbie like me with little Spanish based on my one time experience. I think I don't see the full picture of the girls offered but I have a good idea of the service and hardware offered so that will be the emphasis of this report. I break up my reports by category so I can complete them one by one, this is for massage places.
Thanks, I'm looking forward to the reports about other FS places. Please give details on opening hours, quality and ages of the chicas.
I am considering a first trip to Columbia after years in Asia. I'm not interested in places with well travelled hookers. I prefer 18-20 girls who are less experienced and less transactional. More GFE less silicone-tits pornstar. Like we used to find in Changping on chicken runs 8 years ago, if you know that time and place. Less Macao saunas type girls who have several sessions a day.
Please tell us your views on these as you continue with the reports.
Keep up the reporting!!
Mr Enternational
12-04-18, 09:40
I'm not interested in places with well travelled hookers. I prefer 18-20 girls who are less experienced and less transactional.Everyone is. And that is what makes them well-travelled, more experienced, and more transactional. There is no secret batch of beautiful, low-mileage, GFE hookers out there.
BaDonkiDonk
12-04-18, 14:24
I'll be in Medellin for the Super Bowl on February 3, 2019, and am looking for a sports bar where I can watch and listen to it in English. Any ideas?
MedellinGringo,
{SNIP} In USA, I am sure if I walked up to a woman and offered her a car up to $50,000 for sex that 80% would jump at the chance. You just need to prove that 1. You will pay and 2. {SNIP}Reminds me of the joke that goes something like this.
Man (to extremely attractive woman): "Will you have sex with me for $1 MM?
Woman: "Absolutely."
Man: "Will you have sex with me for $10?
Woman: "What do you think I am, a hooker?
Man: "We've already established that. Now we're just negotiating the price!
Flight out of MDE early afternoon so the night before I arranged to have Laura the student to come at 9:00 for another round before we go for breakfast and airport. She showed up on time and my buddy wanted to fuck her instead. 10 minutes later he came out saying he didn't like the hanging skin on her snatch; picky man I think he had no appetite! I made the sacrifice and stepped up to the task. Laura wanted to stay and asked if I wanted another round but it was time to go. There will be another trip to MDE for certain hopefully longer than 3.5 days next time.
Observations which many of you probably already know:
-Use no foreign transaction fee credit cards for restaurants and you get the best exchange rate. A few restaurants add a surcharge for CC use but the menu should state it.
-No need for Colombia Cupid, FB, or other online methods unless your trip is sufficiently long. I wasted much time chatting up CC girls but the immediate on ground talent appeared just as good. Certainly a few gems can be found online but they consume effort and time and the outcome is not any more certain. My feeling is that the online ones are no more or less pro or semi-pro than what you might find in any of the bars.
-Most if not all of the high-end regular apartments prohibit escorts, loud parties, or drug use. However, friendliness and taking care of the security guards has tangible benefits. Just don't abuse the rules.
-Strip joints were a hit and miss, some cuties and not many beauties. Also be cautious of your surroundings.
-El Poblado seems to be where the new money is. Saw Ferrari, Hummer limos, Audi R8, Benz and beammers mostly Bogota plates. Also explains why some chicas wanted 400 K for an hour, albeit 9's. As a point of comparison, a SW in centro told my buddy 30 K.
-Taxis and metro are cheap and efficient. Make sure driver turns on the taxi meter, small screen right by the rearview mirror. Minimum fare is 5 K.Just wanted to acknowledge your good trip report before it gets lost in pages of chatter.
ClamSlammer
12-04-18, 21:21
And who says that he wants to fuck her more than once?If you don't want to fuck a girl twice for free, that's attractive enough to pay for, well you've chosen the wrong hobby.
MedellinGringo,
I feel bad that the young guy did not know she was prepago and his bubble was burst. She must have really liked him to give it for free and to cuss the other guy out for ratting her out. Kinda proves my point is that you never know about people. I am sure most of the co-workers, friends, and family of the guys on this very board assume we (here on ISG) are all good wholesome guys. For all you guys that say BS, please explain why your board name is not your real name (first and last)? Most women are working girls you just need to find the right price. In USA, I am sure if I walked up to a woman and offered her a car up to $50,000 for sex that 80% would jump at the chance. You just need to prove that 1. You will pay and 2. Nobody will find out.If you're sure, why not try it? Pick a random shopping mall in the US. Pick a random attractive woman. Approach her, talk to her and make her an offer, with cash in hand. Do this 10 times.
I'm betting that you're not going to get 8 of the women to say yes. At best, 2 or 3. The other times will end of with you getting beaten up and / or arrested.
Looking at it very loosely, all girls are working girls. They will all have sex with the person who gives them what they want. However, only a few are willing to make a straight cash transaction. Most want something more. Most also want to pick their partners, instead of just saying yes to whoever has the money. Even the ones who are happy to take money for sex will choose who they take money from.
Every working girl I befriended in Medellin (meaning we communicate even when it's not a negotiation for sex), has complained to me about some guy who wanted to pay her for sex. Grosero, sucio, feo, gordo. Unless you're pulling from the bottom of the barrel, even the hookers have standards.
If you don't want to fuck a girl twice for free, that's attractive enough to pay for, well you've chosen the wrong hobby.Why fuck her again when it's possible to fuck a new girl for free that isn't a prostitute?
Never heard of pump & dump?
Mr Enternational
12-05-18, 04:06
I'll be in Medellin for the Super Bowl on February 3, 2019, and am looking for a sports bar where I can watch and listen to it in English. Any ideas?Hooters in Poblado.
Mr Enternational
12-05-18, 04:11
Looking at it very loosely, all girls are working girls. They will all have sex with the person who gives them what they want. However, only a few are willing to make a straight cash transaction. Most want something more. Most also want to pick their partners, instead of just saying yes to whoever has the money.Great post full of logic. As I said before, some people have morals and not everyone is a hooker.
ClamSlammer
12-05-18, 05:57
Why fuck her again when it's possible to fuck a new girl for free that isn't a prostitute?
Never heard of pump & dump?Why not fuck her again, which is guaranteed, then try to fuck a new girl too, which isn't guaranteed? Why turn down round two of guaranteed GFE? Yeah I've heard of pump and dump, but you seem ignorant to the fact that the vast majority of mongers here don't meet the qualifications. Mongers, those who must resort to paying for sex, don't have girls begging them for sex on a daily basis. In order to pump and dump, you must possess most of the following characteristics: young, extremely handsome, wealthy, charismatic and in-shape. Most mongers fit only one or none of those criteria. If fucking attractive women for free was so easy for the typical monger, the typical monger would be well on his way to extinction.
MedellinGringo
12-05-18, 07:12
Your friend's behavior is quite astounding. He's gotten to first base with a chica many men would be willing to pay for and is well on his way to unlimited free sex. Then he intentionally screws it all up by offering to pay for each and every future session?My friend had a hard time believing the chick was a prepago. I don't think he wanted to believe it. But when it became obvious that she was. He just wanted to fuck her even if he had to pay for it. He may have tried to just date her and to see what happened if he lived in Medellin. But when guys have limited time (in pussy paradise) they tend to do whatever it takes to get laid as fast as possible.
Mr Enternational
12-05-18, 09:39
My friend had a hard time believing the chick was a prepago. I don't think he wanted to believe it. But when it became obvious that she was. He just wanted to fuck her even if he had to pay for it. He may have tried to just date her and to see what happened if he lived in Medellin. But when guys have limited time (in pussy paradise) they tend to do whatever it takes to get laid as fast as possible.He went about it all wrong though because he did not meet her on those terms. Last month I was in Peru and met this chick on cupid. She did not want to go out with me at first because she thought I just wanted to fuck her. Finally the day before my last she agreed to go out to lunch. She made it clear that it would just be platonic and not even a kiss. After we ate and she saw how cool I was, she started to get GFE. We were downtown walking holding hands and hugging and kissing. She went home and we were messaging each other. I had 1 day left and like you said I was on limited time, so I said fuck it and just told her flat out that the next day we would fuck. She said no. (I did not offer to pay her as your friend did.) I said what time are you coming. She said I am not. The next afternoon I asked her if she was on her way yet. She said she had to get her kid off to school and she would be on the way. We went to eat lunch and went back to the hotel and fucked. Now she is all in love.
Your friend should have realized that hookers need love too. And just because she was a hooker did not mean she was out to get money from him. That was not even information that he was supposed to be privy to. She could have really liked him for who he was. He thought he was being smart and thought he was offering her what she really wanted for what he really wanted. But that is where experience and game come in handy. You have to know when it works to romance a chick, when it works to worry the shit out of a chick, when it works to pay a chick. YMMV and there is no one size fits all. He should have continued in the direction he was going and did just like I did; told her he was leaving soon and wanted to make love with her. Then at least he would have been fucking her for free while everyone else was paying, instead of going home with his dick in his hand and not fucking her at all.
He went about it all wrong though because he did not meet her on those terms. Last month I was in Peru and met this chick on cupid. She did not want to go out with me at first because she thought I just wanted to fuck her. Finally the day before my last she agreed to go out to lunch. She made it clear that it would just be platonic and not even a kiss. After we ate and she saw how cool I was, she started to get GFE. We were downtown walking holding hands and hugging and kissing. She went home and we were messaging each other. I had 1 day left and like you said I was on limited time, so I said fuck it and just told her flat out that the next day we would fuck. She said no. (I did not offer to pay her as your friend did.) I said what time are you coming. She said I am not. The next afternoon I asked her if she was on her way yet. She said she had to get her kid off to school and she would be on the way. We went to eat lunch and went back to the hotel and fucked. Now she is all in love.
Your friend should have realized that hookers need love too. And just because she was a hooker did not mean she was out to get money from him. That was not even information that he was supposed to be privy to. She could have really liked him for who he was. He thought he was being smart and thought he was offering her what she really wanted for what he really wanted. But that is where experience and game come in handy. You have to know when it works to romance a chick, when it works to worry the shit out of a chick, when it works to pay a chick. YMMV and there is no one size fits all. He should have continued in the direction he was going and did just like I did; told her he was leaving soon and wanted to make love with her. Then at least he would have been fucking her for free while everyone else was paying, instead of going home with his dick in his hand and not fucking her at all.Maybe it would have paid off using your tactic, maybe not. But why play games with a cheap hooker?
Fucking a inexpensive hooker, which everyone with a 100 bucks can fuck, for free doesn't make anyone special.
It would be another thing it was a high-end escort with starting rates at 500 bucks or more.
Maybe it would have paid off using your tactic, maybe not. But why play games with a cheap hooker?
Fucking a inexpensive hooker, which everyone with a 100 bucks can fuck, for free doesn't make anyone special.
It would be another thing it was a high-end escort with starting rates at 500 bucks or more.You really don't get it.
The price a girl charges means nothing as to who the girl is, the quality and or level of service, fun, etc.
Often times the correlation is inverse.
Good luck.
I spent the past few days in Parque Lleras. It's nice but I keep reading posts about better prices in other places in Los Angelos, San Diego, etc. An old dude told me to get on the Day game but not sure where. Honestly I would rather do Day game anyways. But the Colombian Uber I call for rides said that New Life is in a bad area for day game and too dangerous for night so he won't take me there. Can anyone give some advice on New Life or any other club outside Parque Lleras in terms to Day Game. Before 7 pm? Also is new Life dangerous in general?
SteelBaton
12-06-18, 02:44
Everyone is. And that is what makes them well-travelled, more experienced, and more transactional. There is no secret batch of beautiful, low-mileage, GFE hookers out there.I disagree. I find these types of girls in many places in Asia (Jakarta, small bars in BKK, HK honey girls, "chicken shops" in rural China, top-tier bars like Kojak in Manila, etc). Most places I frequent I can *eventually* find the bars or locations where women are just beginning to work in this business or are working part-time. I'm just wondering where in Columbia they are likely to be found? Sometimes it's a FL cafe, or streetwalkers, or small clubs, or the most expensive clubs who will pay the most for fresh women. Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??
I don't have the patience for the online romancing sites that take days and weeks to cultivate.
I disagree. I find these types of girls in many places in Asia (Jakarta, small bars in BKK, HK honey girls, "chicken shops" in rural China, top-tier bars like Kojak in Manila, etc). Most places I frequent I can *eventually* find the bars or locations where women are just beginning to work in this business or are working part-time. I'm just wondering where in Columbia they are likely to be found? Sometimes it's a FL cafe, or streetwalkers, or small clubs, or the most expensive clubs who will pay the most for fresh women. Where does that attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money first go? They all begin somewhere, where is it in Medellin??
I don't have the patience for the online romancing sites that take days and weeks to cultivate.Of course they are out there. But it takes time and effort to find them. If you're determined to do so, I'd try some smaller or mid-size towns. Big cities in Colombia are pretty played out. If you have to be in a bigger city, you need to get way away from the nicer areas of town. Hang around in some Estrato 2/3 areas.
I'll be in Medellin for the Super Bowl on February 3, 2019, and am looking for a sports bar where I can watch and listen to it in English. Any ideas?Highly recommend Patrick's Irish Bar in Parque Lleras.
Address: Carrera 37 a 8 a - 43, Medellin, Colombia.
Great bar to watch American Football. After a few shots, you'the swear you're in some neighborhood bar in the midwest.
I was there 3-4 years ago. Traded shots with Patrick the owner while watching the game. Great guy, got a frisbe with the bar logo from him on the way out!
You might want to call ahead for the Superbowl & see if you need to reserve seats. I vaguely remember.
Options to pay for all you can eat & maybe drink.
The girls are friendly & attractive. I don't think they "work". They might make enough $ from gringo tips but who TF knows in Medallin.
Google "Patrick's bar Medellin". Take a look at Trip Advisor for more info including their #.
Just read a post here from another monger suggesting Hooter's (also in Parque Lleras).
Might be a mistake:
When I went there to watch Monday Night Football. The place was dead. I could've lived with the mediocre looking hooter girls being a bit snooty (I wasn't there for the woozle) but at the end of the 3rd. Quarter I was told they're closing up! Another party of 3-4 guys had just ordered these huge cartoon drinks & weren't allowed to finish them.
Luckily, right across the street I saw a bar that was totally empty but the game was on. The bartender let me watch the rest of the game while he was cleaning up. Unfortunately it has since closed.
Hope this helps.
I spent the past few days in Parque Lleras. It's nice but I keep reading posts about better prices in other places in Los Angelos, San Diego, etc. An old dude told me to get on the Day game but not sure where. Honestly I would rather do Day game anyways. But the Colombian Uber I call for rides said that New Life is in a bad area for day game and too dangerous for night so he won't take me there. Can anyone give some advice on New Life or any other club outside Parque Lleras in terms to Day Game. Before 7 pm? Also is new Life dangerous in general?Man, you are confused and need to spend time reading TFF. "Game" is what you need to make emotional connections with girls so that they will want to fuck you. Instead of game you can use money. You don't need game to go to New Life any more than you need to be Italian to go to a pizzeria.
New Life is only open daytime. I recommend you go there and to the other centro casas. Nothing bad is likely to happen to you walking around that part of centro during the day, but it likely will greatly expand your outlook on life. Get WorldTraveler69's map on your phone.
For "day game", that is picking up girls with charm not money, your best bet it Parque Lleras, but you're more likely to be picked up by overpriced putas hunting for gringos.
For "day game", that is picking up girls with charm not money, your best bet it Parque Lleras, but you're more likely to be picked up by overpriced putas hunting for gringos.Hmmmm, Parque Lleras IMO, would definitely NOT be your best for picking up girls with charm.
Matter of fact, it wouldn't even be on my list, LOL.
Of course they are out there. But it takes time and effort to find them. If you're determined to do so, I'd try some smaller or mid-size towns. Big cities in Colombia are pretty played out. SteelBaton poses a very valid and important question. Where do the fresh women in Colombia start out? In my experience an "attractive 18 year old who decides she needs some extra pocket money" first goes to a small casa. From there, in Medellin she may go to New Life or Energy to increase her turnover. If she is an extrovert or has issues like drugs that prevent her being accepted in a casa, she may start on the street at Veracruz.
Me, I have had a hard time finding fresh GFE girls in Medellin and Bogota and had more success in second-tier cities Barranquilla and Bucaramanga where everything is somewhat more laid-back and the girls more low-mileage.
I wouldn't recommend "smaller or mid-size towns" because they generally don't have the establishments that we are looking for. Girls don't work in their home towns where they are likely to be found out, they go to the anonymity of the city.
If you have to be in a bigger city, you need to get way away from the nicer areas of town. Hang around in some Estrato 2/3 areas.How is that supposed to work? If you just "hang around" you're more likely to attract muggers rather than the pretty girls who sit at home with no money. To pick up girls in public you would need to be fluent in Spanish and have good game. Even so, girls would be wary to be seen with a monger in their own neighbourhood. Has anyone ever made this work?
Colombians don't tend to befriend people in public and meet new people through their network of friends and family. However, it's generally easy to get into a conversation with someone sharing your long distance bus or plane, for example, not sure how that works on the metro or city bus. A better strategy would be to befriend girls and have them introduce you to their friends.
Hmmmm, Parque Lleras IMO, would definitely NOT be your best for picking up girls with charm.
Matter of fact, it wouldn't even be on my list, LOL.I wasn't speaking from experience on that point, so I defer to your judgement. Please share your list.
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