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Kelso1
01-29-19, 14:51
For you guys looking for a sexo report read no further.

Got to MDE airport after a long one stop trip. My flight was delayed so a long line at immigration.

I'm working on about one hour sleep so I knew going into tonight it was going to be mostly a take it easy day.

I got a taxi to Centro for 75 K. This was around 4 PM so the traffic was brutal. I felt sorry for the driver so I gave him a extra 5 k. Funny I thought it was a small tip, but he shook my hand as he unloaded my bags.

I checked into the Hotel Nutibara. This is dead in the heart of Centro. The bill was 314 K for 3 nights. A grand old hotel. The room was large with a fridge, and a electronic safe that my laptop fit into. WI FI is strong. I'm not to sure, but I think the desk clerk said no visitors after 6 PM. Had a double burger near the hotel then I checked out the local SW action. More girls than you could count. Mostly low quality. A few I might of took if I was not exhausted at this point.

Next I went to the outside of Maracibo strip club. I didn't go in, but a hustler outside said for 60 K he could get me private girl show.

I then left to hit the hotel bed.

Tomorrow it is off to New Life, and pick a real pretty girl for a BBBJ.

SolidMuscle27
01-29-19, 18:03
Not right off hand, but I plan to hit another casa after the gym tomorrow so I'll try to see if I can duplicate the route. I do remember when I came out I was close to New Life. I usually just walk around and see if I see places that have the casa look or someone gives me a little flyer and I check it out.

I took a friend in town from Cali to some of the strip clubs near parque botero a couple of weeks ago and there was some really nice talent. In general, I think the influx of Venezolanas is improving things and when I talk to the Paisas, it's obvious they don't like the competition, but it's great for us. There is a casa I've been to in Prado that has some nice ones and there is a chica with a big ass and two big tattoos on each butt cheek that I've been wanting to smash. If I hit it, I'm going to post some pics of that tatted ass.Hey bro,

I've been in Medellin for about a year with a girlfriend but now single and looking to venture the monger side of Medellin. Looking for a veteran to help me out, look like you hit the gym also, hit the gym and then head to some casas. Thanks bro.

Combo
01-30-19, 01:04
You broke your posting cherry to tell others to post reports?

The problem is reports lead to discussion. And discussion is where you'll learn the really important stuff. Learning how firm some casa girl's tits are, or how good of a BJ she gives isn't going to be much use to you in 3 months. She'll be somewhere else, or pregnant, or both.

However, learning how to interact with Colombia, how to get around, how to treat people, what to avoid, and all the things that get discussed, will always be useful. You'll also learn the different personalities. There's someone here who matches your style. By learning about the guys who discuss everything, you'll figure out which guys are going to have the best advice for you. You'll also figure out who to avoid.

Read the discussion, comment, ask questions and then, when you have some experience to report, write some reports.I agree totally. While I appreciate the work posters put into a trip report, most of the useful info comes from discussion, not a blow-by-blow report of boning chicas.

Midwest
01-30-19, 04:54
Not right off hand, but I plan to hit another casa after the gym tomorrow so I'll try to see if I can duplicate the route. I do remember when I came out I was close to New Life. I usually just walk around and see if I see places that have the casa look or someone gives me a little flyer and I check it out.If you do find that casa (or any other casa for that matter), you might want to discretely take a pic of the front of the place and / or simply go in there & ask for their info. Also, you might want to check it against World Travel 69's "Map & PDF LIst". It might already be listed there. If not, maybe he (they?) can add it. I found that list indispensable every time I've been in Medellin.

Kavin76
01-30-19, 18:09
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.

Fun Luvr
01-30-19, 20:52
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.A friend and I bused two ladies in from Pereira to Medelin. His was ugly and a complete bust. My was almost perfect, but she had that chain and ball of the other one attached to her. Mine got married shortly after that, so I was never able to connect with her again.

You're not risking much, about $33, so why not take the chance? Some risks return great rewards.

ChicoBarca
01-30-19, 20:57
Hi,

If you have doubts, why not just buy the ticket. I have done that in other countries and all have turned out well. If she don't turn up, well you have lost the money (but as you said. Not a lot). And you have to risk something to gain something. I would say, go for it.

Chico.


Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.

Orgasmico
01-30-19, 21:13
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.I've never done it because there are already so many available chicas in Medellin. If I actually met or knew the chica and she was cool, I might do it. The money isn't a big to me but I know it is for them.

JjBee62
01-30-19, 23:19
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.100,000 for bus? You're getting ripped off before she gets on the bus. Chances are the ticket is less than 30,000, probably less than 20,000. You can fly between most cities in Colombia for 100,000.

There are already girls in Medellin. They will be more than happy to show up without you sending 100 k up front.

The Tall Man
01-31-19, 03:20
100,000 for bus? You're getting ripped off before she gets on the bus. Chances are the ticket is less than 30,000, probably less than 20,000. You can fly between most cities in Colombia for 100,000.

There are already girls in Medellin. They will be more than happy to show up without you sending 100 k up front.Spot on advice, never bother shipping in a chica from outside of Medellin into Medellin, heck that is like bringing sand to the beach, seriously! And yes a bus fare is typically 30 to 60 mil max! Unless your traveling from outside Colombia for gods sake.

For 100 mil I can make one of my 3 or 4 centro girls real happy for 4 to 6 hours and I would be the king, jajajaja.

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
01-31-19, 03:22
For you guys looking for a sexo report read no further.

Got to MDE airport after a long one stop trip. My flight was delayed so a long line at immigration.

I'm working on about one hour sleep so I knew going into tonight it was going to be mostly a take it easy day.

I got a taxi to Centro for 75 K. This was around 4 PM so the traffic was brutal. I felt sorry for the driver so I gave him a extra 5 k. Funny I thought it was a small tip, but he shook my hand as he unloaded my bags.

I checked into the Hotel Nutibara. This is dead in the heart of Centro. The bill was 314 K for 3 nights. A grand old hotel. The room was large with a fridge, and a electronic safe that my laptop fit into. WI FI is strong. I'm not to sure, but I think the desk clerk said no visitors after 6 PM. Had a double burger near the hotel then I checked out the local SW action. More girls than you could count. Mostly low quality. A few I might of took if I was not exhausted at this point.

Next I went to the outside of Maracibo strip club. I didn't go in, but a hustler outside said for 60 K he could get me private girl show.

I then left to hit the hotel bed.

Tomorrow it is off to New Life, and pick a real pretty girl for a BBBJ.Great check-in, now let us know how your day 2 goes, AND be sure to not listen to the guys in front of either Barra Executiva or next door at Maricaibo just go in and check out the chicas, if you see something you like the cost is like 70 or 80 mil room included in the bar.

Have fun!

The Tall Man.

Baudelairemod
01-31-19, 09:09
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.Sorry but I've actually only done the opposite. I flew a girl from MDE to Cartagena for a couple of days but I had been seeing her at least once a day for a week prior to that. I also knew that Cartagena wasn't really the best or the easiest in terms of quality so decided to bring my own big-titted and big-assed paisa!

As JjBee62 and Tall Man were saying, it seems a bit overkill to get someone over to MDE. Especially if you don't really know her. Also how long would she be coming for? I assume she'd have to stay with you? I am sure that would prevent you from seeing other girls. Unless you're getting her a return ticket for the same day? Seems a bit of a logistical nightmare to be honest. Unless you plan on seeing only her for that time?

MedellinGringo
01-31-19, 10:19
Anyone ever fly or bus a girl into Medellin from a smaller town? I'm talking to one that has been messaging me for weeks, but it seems like I'd be asking for trouble. I don't like the idea of sending money to someone I don't know. It's only 100,000 for bus so I am not risking much, but it makes me uneasy.Sounds like a scam. I have flown girls in that I had already slept with before. I never sent them money but I did purchase the airline ticket online in their name. I don't know if you can purchase a bus ticket and have a girl pick it up at the bus station to get on the bus. But I definitely would not send money to a chick that I did not know personally. Ever.

Eb1989
01-31-19, 14:17
Hi all,

First time visitor to any mongering destination but have experienced Asian massage parlors, escorts, and college girl sugar babies in the US. Looking for a better bang for my buck combined with an awesome vacation, and stumbled upon choosing Medellin over Sosua or Thailand (mostly due to weather March-October being bad and distance). I'm looking at going in July, but am overly excited and have been trying to research as best I can up front. Keeps me going through the daily corporate America grind I guess.

I think I've stumbled upon a group of independents via a girl on Tinder, but not sure if it's a scam. Found a girl who listed her Instagram and on her Instagram page was a whatsapp number. Hit her up there and she revealed that she offers herself and / or any of about a dozen of her friends and anything else you could need on a trip, but also anything separate that you want is OK. She says $100/ 300 m pesos for 1. 5 hrs per girl or $250 for 6 hours of partying and sex. These girls are smoking hot 10's in the photos she gave me too. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Would I be better off just going to New Life / Aiffe / Fantasia Energy / La Isla / Loutron instead? I can't seem to find the right girls on FB and Tinder seems hit or miss after a few days swiping in Medellin so far. Photoprepagos.com seems a tad sketchy and everyone wants to be paid in advance via credit card and I'm not doing that.

Thank you all!

MedellinGringo
01-31-19, 22:09
For 100 mil I can make one of my 3 or 4 centro girls real happy for 4 to 6 hours and I would be the king, jajajaja.

The Tall Man.At some point I'm going to have to go to El Centro with one of you Centro pros.

I have been to El Centro about a dozen times and have never found anything that I would pay to have sex with.

It's not that they are all unfuckable but they are no where near the quality I have already lined up.

But I'm open to being schooled on the subject. If you or anyone else can show me a chick that I really want to fuck.

That charges 100 mill or less. I'll give you 100 mill just for letting me tag along.

YippieKayay
01-31-19, 22:12
Had anyone tried anal sex or sex with two chicas? I know it is normal in Colombia.Threesomes: Yes. In brothel's they call it "Lesbian show" and its mostly that. Expect to change condoms as you switch chicas. Haven't barebacked two chicas in a single session yet. It's on my list.

Anal: It is available. It is not normal in Colombia. You're thinking Brazil. If you have a thin cock you can usually get anal. Mine is too wide so only done it a couple of times with a thick condom on. Not my thing. Was offered bareback anal in a Bogota brothel and didn't partake. Somethings are far too fucking risky.

The Tall Man
01-31-19, 22:13
Hi all,

First time visitor to any mongering destination but have experienced Asian massage parlors, escorts, and college girl sugar babies in the US. Looking for a better bang for my buck combined with an awesome vacation, and stumbled upon choosing Medellin over Sosua or Thailand (mostly due to weather March-October being bad and distance). I'm looking at going in July, but am overly excited and have been trying to research as best I can up front. Keeps me going through the daily corporate America grind I guess.

I think I've stumbled upon a group of independents via a girl on Tinder, but not sure if it's a scam. Found a girl who listed her Instagram and on her Instagram page was a whatsapp number. Hit her up there and she revealed that she offers herself and / or any of about a dozen of her friends and anything else you could need on a trip, but also anything separate that you want is OK. She says $100/ 300 m pesos for 1. 5 hrs per girl or $250 for 6 hours of partying and sex. These girls are smoking hot 10's in the photos she gave me too. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Would I be better off just going to New Life / Aiffe / Fantasia Energy / La Isla / Loutron instead? I can't seem to find the right girls on FB and Tinder seems hit or miss after a few days swiping in Medellin so far. Photoprepagos.com seems a tad sketchy and everyone wants to be paid in advance via credit card and I'm not doing that.

Thank you all!Yes I will chime in my two pesos. First do NOT communicate to early with any of the girls, they will lose interest and see that your not serious, so maximum 3 weeks or more preferably start your dialog / communication with them 2 weeks before you travel.

Now Tinder issue, my last and only experience with Tinder girls was almost 2 years ago, it was good, a university girl needing some help (don't they all say they are university paisas, jajaja) and was fun but I found that there are so many options for pussy in Medellin that even spending months in Medellin I find myself too busy with other girls and usually better pricing and a hell of a lot of fun.

The pricing of 100 mil (about $35. USD) for lets say an hour or 1. 5 hours is about the going rate and 250 mil for 6 hours is a good price point, nothing fishy there and yes it is common that these girls have friends and yes they are connected and will share, hell some of my current favorites are friends of friends, "sharing is caring" as they say, jajajaja.

The best advice that I and others can offer you is to simply go and check it out and enjoy.

The Tall Man.

NYCassman
01-31-19, 23:57
Yes I will chime in my two pesos. First do NOT communicate to early with any of the girls, they will lose interest and see that your not serious, so maximum 3 weeks or more preferably start your dialog / communication with them 2 weeks before you travel.

Now Tinder issue, my last and only experience with Tinder girls was almost 2 years ago, it was good, a university girl needing some help (don't they all say they are university paisas, jajaja) and was fun but I found that there are so many options for pussy in Medellin that even spending months in Medellin I find myself too busy with other girls and usually better pricing and a hell of a lot of fun.

The pricing of 100 mil (about $35. USD) for lets say an hour or 1. 5 hours is about the going rate and 250 mil for 6 hours is a good price point, nothing fishy there and yes it is common that these girls have friends and yes they are connected and will share, hell some of my current favorites are friends of friends, "sharing is caring" as they say, jajajaja.

The best advice that I and others can offer you is to simply go and check it out and enjoy.

The Tall Man.You say 100 mil for 1.5 hours he says 100 dollars, you say 250 mil for 6 hours he says 250 dollars. Those prices are Not close.

I have done research for some weeks now, I've got a list of the popular bars casa's and restaurants. I've starred them in my goggle maps. I plan on trying photoprepagos website. I plan to hit casa's during the day and find someone at clubs at night unless I have to resort to using prepagos website.

I appreciate all the information that has been shared. If there are any web sites or suggestions for Natural beauties (I'm not much into the enhancements) I'd love to hear about it.

Kinda sucks the current membership situation I wish I could PM.

PolloNegro
02-01-19, 01:04
At some point I'm going to have to go to El Centro with one of you Centro pros.

I have been to El Centro about a dozen times and have never found anything that I would pay to have sex with.

It's not that they are all unfuckable but they are no where near the quality I have already lined up.

But I'm open to being schooled on the subject. If you or anyone else can show me a chick that I really want to fuck.

That charges 100 mill or less. I'll give you 100 mill just for letting me tag along.But if you have been to Centro a dozen times and haven't seen one chica that you would like to smash, there is a visual deficit, sense of uncertain doom, but hey, I can walk you through Veracruz and allow you to see big small short or tall, young, old, dumb and bold. But whatever you are looking for, you can find it in centro at a fraction of the price of other places. Bring your reading glasses & we'll find you a girl!. Pollonegro is out! LOL.

Kelso1
02-01-19, 01:30
Went to New Life at 11 AM. About 20 girls. For my tastes all but one was doable. Mostly 7,and 8's. I Picked a Morena with a natural hour glass figure. A solid 8, and she never stopped smiling. I took her for one hour (80 K). The other prices were 50 K half hour, and 65 K 45 minutes.

Now the main reason for my trip was the Cento girls. The first night there was a few doable but mostly bad ones. I found that all the ones I went with was the same story. On the street whatever I asked for was ok with them. Some prices were in the 25 to 30 K range. Now the reality is once you pay for the short time hotel then all bets are off. They demand the money upfront. The first time this happened I went with it as the girl was kind of cute. After that two more times I was hit with the same BS, and I walked eating the room rent. As for the strip clubs I have always liked them. Problem for me was the volume was insane. You had to yell, and then they could not hear you. I left without drinking my beer.

It looks like to me the only good thing in MDE is New Life. I don't go for all this social media stuff.

My stay is planned, and paid for 24 nights. I like the hunt. Casas are not my thing. Tomorrow I start to look for a getaway from this place. Maybe when I hit FL I head right to the DR. It has it's drawbacks, but the hunt is on there.

A little background on me. In the last ten years I have done at least 15 different trips. Mostly Colombia, ,and Peru with a few other Latin America Countrys.

Wolf662
02-01-19, 01:50
At some point I'm going to have to go to El Centro with one of you Centro pros.

I have been to El Centro about a dozen times and have never found anything that I would pay to have sex with.

It's not that they are all unfuckable but they are no where near the quality I have already lined up.
Are you talking street chicks, Casa chicks or strip club chicks -although I have found hotties at all three locations but I have spent about a month cruising Centro.

Knowledge
02-01-19, 02:37
Why put yourself through this? Stick with the facebook girls.


At some point I'm going to have to go to El Centro with one of you Centro pros.

I have been to El Centro about a dozen times and have never found anything that I would pay to have sex with.

It's not that they are all unfuckable but they are no where near the quality I have already lined up.

But I'm open to being schooled on the subject. If you or anyone else can show me a chick that I really want to fuck.

That charges 100 mill or less. I'll give you 100 mill just for letting me tag along.

Kavin76
02-01-19, 04:16
You say 100 mil for 1.5 hours he says 100 dollars, you say 250 mil for 6 hours he says 250 dollars. Those prices are Not close.

I have done research for some weeks now, I've got a list of the popular bars casa's and restaurants. I've starred them in my goggle maps. I plan on trying photoprepagos website. I plan to hit casa's during the day and find someone at clubs at night unless I have to resort to using prepagos website.

I appreciate all the information that has been shared. If there are any web sites or suggestions for Natural beauties (I'm not much into the enhancements) I'd love to hear about it.

Kinda sucks the current membership situation I wish I could PM.I am glad you mentioned this. The cash mail option is valid, FYI. I wish someone would have posted about this before because I was concerned, but if you send by mail they will validate and activate your membership. It indeed takes 3 weeks but they will do it. No worries.

PaisaPorFavor
02-01-19, 04:49
Honestly if you haven't experienced centro you are missing out. 2 of the girls that still consume my thoughts are centro 30 k street girls. There is indeed gems to be found. I have tried casas, strip clubs, photo prepagos, CC, escorts and still go back down there.


Why put yourself through this? Stick with the facebook girls..

Knowledge
02-01-19, 04:57
I know exactly what you mean.


Honestly if you haven't experienced centro you are missing out. 2 of the girls that still consume my thoughts are centro 30 k street girls. There is indeed gems to be found. I have tried casas, strip clubs, photo prepagos, CC, escorts and still go back down there..

IntMongerer
02-01-19, 08:19
We will be in Medellin February, and March of 2019. Let me know if you would like to join! Newbies welcomed.Hey bud,

Would love to link up. Will be in Medellin during the middle of March. Tried to message you. Not sure if there is a PM function on this site.

Queens35
02-01-19, 09:09
Hi all,

First time visitor to any mongering destination but have experienced Asian massage parlors, escorts, and college girl sugar babies in the US. Looking for a better bang for my buck combined with an awesome vacation, and stumbled upon choosing Medellin over Sosua or Thailand (mostly due to weather March-October being bad and distance). I'm looking at going in July, but am overly excited and have been trying to research as best I can up front. Keeps me going through the daily corporate America grind I guess.

I think I've stumbled upon a group of independents via a girl on Tinder, but not sure if it's a scam. Found a girl who listed her Instagram and on her Instagram page was a whatsapp number. Hit her up there and she revealed that she offers herself and / or any of about a dozen of her friends and anything else you could need on a trip, but also anything separate that you want is OK. She says $100/ 300 m pesos for 1. 5 hrs per girl or $250 for 6 hours of partying and sex.Those Tinder girls are definitely not 10's. Haven't found a hooker who's a 10.10's tend to take a different career route. Plus 300 k is a stupid tourist price. You should not be paying over 200 k for 1. 5 hours, that's ridiculous.

I have never been asked by ANY chica on Photoprepagos to pay ahead of time by credit card. I think you misunderstood or google translate has failed you.

Like somebody said, you are way to early to start making contact with them. Try a week before your trip, and even then many will just ignore you.

MedellinGringo
02-01-19, 09:19
Are you talking street chicks, Casa chicks or strip club chicks -although I have found hotties at all three locations but I have spent about a month cruising Centro.All three. Although I have only looked for street chicks once as it seemed the least likely option to produce a viable candidate.

I have seen strip club chicks that I thought were attractive. Just not as a attractive as the 150 to 200 mill facebook chicks and not that much cheaper. Especially to fuck them in a back room with a time limit. Jajaja.

I'm sure I could find a few centro chicks that met my bang for buck ratio if I looked long and hard. But so far it just doesn't seem like a worthwhile way to spend my time. But I'm still curious when I hear guys saying that El Centro is the best and that you would have to be a fool not to go there.

JjBee62
02-01-19, 13:21
All three. Although I have only looked for street chicks once as it seemed the least likely option to produce a viable candidate.

I have seen strip club chicks that I thought were attractive. Just not as a attractive as the 150 to 200 mill facebook chicks and not that much cheaper. Especially to fuck them in a back room with a time limit. Jajaja.

I'm sure I could find a few centro chicks that met my bang for buck ratio if I looked long and hard. But so far it just doesn't seem like a worthwhile way to spend my time. But I'm still curious when I hear guys saying that El Centro is the best and that you would have to be a fool not to go there.There are also guys who say La Isla and Loutron are the best and you would be a fool to go anywhere else. There are guys who think you're a fool if you don't spend all your time at the Mansion and guys who think you're a fool if you spend any time at the Mansion.

No matter what you do, someone will think you're foolish for doing it.

You've found what works for you. Why waste time trying to make what doesn't work, work?

My deal is Facebook, followed by casas. I've tried the strip clubs, but it's not as appealing these days. Street girls aren't my thing, but I like the scenery. So, I've spent a lot of time walking El Centro. I've seen plenty of girls who looked good enough for me.

Unless the guy telling you where you should go and who you should fuck is also the guy who shakes your dick after you take a leak, you shouldn't pay too much attention to him.

Eb1989
02-01-19, 14:28
For those of you who swear by FB, I would say I'm willing to put in the effort but I haven't seem to found the right girls. Any tips or leads? Any suggestions on openers that find me the right opportunities? As of now I've got a couple regular girls I'm talking to on Tinder who don't seem interested in sex but would probably introduce me to friends, and then a few off Tinder that seem to be groups of independent escorts. Other than that it seems like I should go to New Life / Aiffe / Fantasia Energy / LA Isla / Loutron. How do I go about finding a chica for cheap LT?

Turgid
02-01-19, 16:26
Went to New Life at 11 AM. About 20 girls. For my tastes all but one was doable. Mostly 7,and 8's. I Picked a Morena with a natural hour glass figure. A solid 8, and she never stopped smiling. I took her for one hour (80 K). The other prices were 50 K half hour, and 65 K 45 minutes.

Now the main reason for my trip was the Cento girls. The first night there was a few doable but mostly bad ones. I found that all the ones I went with was the same story. On the street whatever I asked for was ok with them. Some prices were in the 25 to 30 K range. Now the reality is once you pay for the short time hotel then all bets are off. They demand the money upfront. The first time this happened I went with it as the girl was kind of cute. After that two more times I was hit with the same BS, and I walked eating the room rent. As for the strip clubs I have always liked them. Problem for me was the volume was insane. You had to yell, and then they could not hear you. I left without drinking my beer.

It looks like to me the only good thing in MDE is New Life. I don't go for all this social media stuff.

My stay is planned, and paid for 24 nights. I like the hunt. Casas are not my thing. Tomorrow I start to look for a getaway from this place. Maybe when I hit FL I head right to the DR. It has it's drawbacks, but the hunt is on there.

A little background on me. In the last ten years I have done at least 15 different trips. Mostly Colombia, ,and Peru with a few other Latin America Countrys.Man you are hard to please. You won't do street walkers, the strip clubs are too noisy, you don't go for the social media stuff and casas are not your thing. There is a ray of hope for you, however. You say you like New Life. Have you tried other casas? I have been doing casas exclusively since I arrived here two weeks ago and I have experienced many that have chicas just as good as New Life.

Wolf662
02-01-19, 22:52
I have seen strip club chicks that I thought were attractive. Just not as a attractive as the 150 to 200 mill facebook chicks and not that much cheaper. Especially to fuck them in a back room with a time limit. Jajaja.Are you expecting a 30 k VeraCruz street girl to be as hot as a 200 k FB girl? Will 6 VeraCruz girls be more fun then 1 FB girl?. Depends on the girls I suppose.

I don't ask for too much for $10. That's like 2 Happy Meals. LOL.

The hotter street chicks over in the Raudal area will be 60 to 80 k, that still less then half your FB price.

Yakuza 50 k for takeout to my hotel.

And the Centro Clubs chicks will be 80 k+-, also 1/2 or less.

I had the most fun with the VeraCruz street chick Sara, she was as GFE as possible.

Some of my favs and where they worked:

Tasss
02-02-19, 00:30
For those of you who swear by FB, I would say I'm willing to put in the effort but I haven't seem to found the right girls. Any tips or leads?You didn't specify what you're having problems with. If you need to build a list, look for my report around Nov '17 about how to do that. You can search anyone's postings by clicking on their username and click View Forum Posts.

Once you have a list of girls, it's pretty simple. 1. Look for those who are active at the time you want the appointment. 2. Message them.

- Hi <name to see if they're active.

- when they respond, use your translator and say "how are you doing, are you available to meet me?

- when they say yes, you need to propose the price first, otherwise they can overcharge you right off the bat. You will pay gringo price anyway but at least you won't be fooled into 200 k or 250 k+ as easily. "I'll offer 150 k for one hour. I stay in area , what do you think". 90% of the time they'll say yes to that. Some girls will do 100 k but I make it easier for myself and start with 150. I've had girls who go "no, 200 k (or more)". If I say "I can only pay 150 k. Maybe you can think about it and let me know", and that often works with her coming back an hour or a day later.

- if you absolutely must have her, maybe 200 k but I strongly suggest giving her some time to think first. Even 100 k is a lot of money to these girls.

- then wait. This is the worst part. She can often be late but very rarely she doesn't come at all. If she doesn't give you updates on where she is or how far away she is, tell her you can't wait any longer and assume she's not coming and make other plans.

- when she arrives she often wants you to pay for her taxi. If she gives a good session, tip her 20 k and pay for her return trip. Call an Uber, which is actually safer for her and saves you some money. She'll be happy with that.

Knowledge
02-02-19, 03:42
Try working out fees with the girls before you bring them to the hotel. I'm not a power user of Veracruz girls but I've never had one ask for money up front. It's monger 101 to avoid that. Good luck to you.


Went to New Life at 11 AM. About 20 girls. For my tastes all but one was doable. Mostly 7,and 8's. I Picked a Morena with a natural hour glass figure. A solid 8, and she never stopped smiling. I took her for one hour (80 K). The other prices were 50 K half hour, and 65 K 45 minutes.

Now the main reason for my trip was the Cento girls. The first night there was a few doable but mostly bad ones. I found that all the ones I went with was the same story. On the street whatever I asked for was ok with them. Some prices were in the 25 to 30 K range. Now the reality is once you pay for the short time hotel then all bets are off. They demand the money upfront. The first time this happened I went with it as the girl was kind of cute. After that two more times I was hit with the same BS, and I walked eating the room rent. As for the strip clubs I have always liked them. Problem for me was the volume was insane. You had to yell, and then they could not hear you. I left without drinking my beer.

It looks like to me the only good thing in MDE is New Life. I don't go for all this social media stuff.

My stay is planned, and paid for 24 nights. I like the hunt. Casas are not my thing. Tomorrow I start to look for a getaway from this place. Maybe when I hit FL I head right to the DR. It has it's drawbacks, but the hunt is on there.

A little background on me. In the last ten years I have done at least 15 different trips. Mostly Colombia, ,and Peru with a few other Latin America Countrys.

TheCarlAnthony
02-02-19, 08:19
Hi all,

First time visitor to any mongering destination but have experienced Asian massage parlors, escorts, and college girl sugar babies in the US. Looking for a better bang for my buck combined with an awesome vacation, and stumbled upon choosing Medellin over Sosua or Thailand (mostly due to weather March-October being bad and distance). I'm looking at going in July, but am overly excited and have been trying to research as best I can up front. Keeps me going through the daily corporate America grind I guess.

I think I've stumbled upon a group of independents via a girl on Tinder, but not sure if it's a scam. Found a girl who listed her Instagram and on her Instagram page was a whatsapp number. Hit her up there and she revealed that she offers herself and / or any of about a dozen of her friends and anything else you could need on a trip, but also anything separate that you want is OK. She says $100/ 300 m pesos for 1. 5 hrs per girl or $250 for 6 hours of partying and sex. These girls are smoking hot 10's in the photos she gave me too. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Would I be better off just going to New Life / Aiffe / Fantasia Energy / La Isla / Loutron instead? I can't seem to find the right girls on FB and Tinder seems hit or miss after a few days swiping in Medellin so far. Photoprepagos.com seems a tad sketchy and everyone wants to be paid in advance via credit card and I'm not doing that.

Thank you all!I am 13 for 13 for women off of photoprepagos. I have not found any of them to be sketchy. Now as far as the actual experience, that's based on the girls personal talents! But "if they respond in a timely manner " I've had good luck there. Best thing is the prices are usually posted so you know what your getting price wise. Never. Ever. Everrrrrrrrrr pay with a CC in advance. That is a disaster waiting to happen. As many women as I've contacted on there, I have never been asked for this. Now maybe once she arrives she will ask for payment before sex. How you handle that is your personal preference but sending money before you have even seen who is on the other end of the WhatsApp is almost ridiculous. She knows that. Try to deal in cash. As much as possible in this game.

TheCarlAnthony
02-02-19, 08:34
Honestly if you haven't experienced centro you are missing out. 2 of the girls that still consume my thoughts are centro 30 k street girls. There is indeed gems to be found. I have tried casas, strip clubs, photo prepagos, CC, escorts and still go back down there..How do you operate Centro! I have done every single method also! Except Centro! I have a skewed vision of it after watching YouTube videos. Maybe it's me but it seems like the most uncomfortable way of mongering. I imagine walking down some 3rd world looking street. Passing by shady guys and looking like a sore thumb. Then walking up to a group of thirsty unattractive women. Looking at them then walking as they make cat calls at me as I continue down ghetto streets on foot looking for a diamond in the ruff. LOL.

My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.

Mind you, I monger alone so what is the real way of doing this safely and with a bit of dignity LOL. The whole walking the streets just doesn't seem realistic for a foreigner. What's your methods? In detail please.

Chicafan
02-02-19, 15:48
Call an Uber, which is actually safer for her and saves you some money. She'll be happy with that.Why is Uber safer for her? The driver is a stranger and less accountable than a cab driver.

Normally I do not have a security guard at my apartments. So, I often request a girl I do not know well to take a yellow taxi because I don't know if her Uber driver is a friend who could be casing my location, an accomplice, or something other. I do know that an uber driver would have my address presumably after he drops his girl and who knows what they discussed on the way to my apartment. Yes I understand the odds are that he's a normal person who could not care less who I am or what I have but what do I care about 5 mil cop extra for the taxi?

Mr Enternational
02-02-19, 16:22
Why is Uber safer for her? The driver is a stranger and less accountable than a cab driver.

Normally I do not have a security guard at my apartments. So, I often request a girl I do not know well to take a yellow taxi because I don't know if her Uber driver is a friend who could be casing my location, an accomplice, or something other.Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.

Wolf662
02-02-19, 16:37
Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.They are stuck in the 90's, when Medellin was the most dangerous city in the world at 225 homicides per 100,000 people, now around 20 which is safer then the Bahamas or Jamaica or St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit.

Chicafan
02-02-19, 17:13
Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. To be clear, Uber is a personal vehicle so I would not know. The Uber driver of course is a stranger to me- that is what I meant. I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.



Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? Some girls claim to have friends that drive them but not likely in a taxi because that would require the driver of a yellow taxi to be on duty and available when she needed the ride to or from. That's not likely.



When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record.



There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.It's about limiting exposure over time. I use apps that call yellow taxis and it works just fine, even if more expensive. I know girls buddy up and talk with Uber drivers. I prefer yellow taxis.

Recently I returned from the shower to find a date had already called a friend or Uber to pick her up so too late for me to call a taxi. She went outside to wait and maybe 10 minutes later as I was leaving my apartment she was still there. She explained the driver was on his way and giving her a ride to Bello for free. I asked why and she shrugged but apparently he offered and wanted to drive her from Laureles to Bello. It was odd. Maybe she sent a foto and because she was pretty he thought there could be something in it for him, I don't know. But it was unusual if not sketchy. Perhaps it was a friend who had been waiting close by. I don't know. I checked my door locks and bolted. A yellow taxi would never do that, but a friend or a creepy Uber driver would.

Mr Enternational
02-02-19, 17:30
But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record. So if a chick tells you she will have a friend drop her off you would protest and insist she take a taxi? Sorry I am just not following. After all, the girl knows where you are staying and she could just send a message or call and tell someone. They would not have to arrive with her or be the one to come pick her up in order for you to be setup or whatever. For that not to happen, you would have to go get her yourself and take her phone and put a blindfold on her until you get inside.

WindAngel
02-02-19, 17:50
I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.
So what will prevent the girl to just text your address or share location to her friend?

Wolf662
02-02-19, 18:15
How do you operate Centro! .What I do is (I stay at the Botero 2 blocks from the redlight blocks) after breakfast I walk thru the Vera Cruz block and the Raudal block and see what's out, usually alone.

Dress like you are going to Home Depot to pick up some lumber, (no shorts / sandals) if you have light colored hair wear a ball cap, don't take more cash then you need, carry a photocopy of your passport and leave the real thing in your room or with the front desk, keep your phone in your pocket and don't stand around, only stop to talk to a girl, don't go after 5 pm when the locals are off work and starting to get drunk. I usually walk through 3 or 4 times a day, if you find one you want, ask her how much to play, the Vera Cruz ones should be in the 30 k range plus room (not sure how much for the room, I always hand them 50 k and tell them to keep the change as a tip) and the hotter Raudal chicks 60-80 k room incld. They will walk you a few feet to the stairs up to a short term hotel, I've been in 4 or 5, nice enough, showers, clean sheets, some have porno TV. I give them the money at the front desk so they can pay and bring my own condoms. Just because you saw nobody hot on the 1st trip doesn't mean they won't be there on the next walk thru, it is hit or miss.

Vera Cruz is the block behind the old white Iglesia de la Veracruz (construction started in 1682). You want Carr 53 between Calle 51 and 52 both side of the street. Some bars along there you can go in for a beer. Ignore most the ones up front by the church, the trannies hang out there. If they look young ask to see their Cedula (ID). If you see nada, walk 2 blocks over to the Raudal area, basically the 2 northern corners of Calle 53 / Carr 54. Less women but usually some hotter ones. I find that block a little sketchier, esp as it gets later.

Remember, she has to only be $10-$20 hot.

After dark I switch to the Centro big 3 strip clubs (Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva & Maracaibo) with occasional taxis to Fase II. That is all I hit in Medellin, not a Casa fan or Escort fan due to no time to check attitude and possibly old or touched up pictures), will hit some FB friends who are super hot on my next trip most likely also.

Bill
02-02-19, 19:59
I have to say its a very bad idea to pay first for any girls in Colombia. Mongers of course are free to do whatever they want. But even mentioning that or tipping, word gets around to newbie mongers trying to emulate and before you know it the place is overpriced, and the service and attitudes go in the shtter.

Turgid
02-02-19, 20:33
I have to say its a very bad idea to pay first for any girls in Colombia. Mongers of course are free to do whatever they want. But even mentioning that or tipping, word gets around to newbie mongers trying to emulate and before you know it the place is overpriced, and the service and attitudes go in the shtter.New Life is one of the few casas in which you pay after. However, the service there is not as good as many other casas where you pay before. New Life is the only casa I have been to during this visit where I have encountered American mongers. New Life is the only casa in which I have been asked for a propina. Do the math.

The Tall Man
02-02-19, 20:41
What I do is (I stay at the Botero 2 blocks from the redlight blocks) after breakfast I walk thru the Vera Cruz block and the Raudal block and see what's out, usually alone.

Dress like you are going to Home Depot to pick up some lumber, (no shorts / sandals) if you have light colored hair wear a ball cap, don't take more cash then you need, carry a photocopy of your passport and leave the real thing in your room or with the front desk, keep your phone in your pocket and don't stand around, only stop to talk to a girl, don't go after 5 pm when the locals are off work and starting to get drunk. I usually walk through 3 or 4 times a day, if you find one you want, ask her how much to play, the Vera Cruz ones should be in the 30 k range plus room (not sure how much for the room, I always hand them 50 k and tell them to keep the change as a tip) and the hotter Raudal chicks 60-80 k room incld. They will walk you a few feet to the stairs up to a short term hotel, I've been in 4 or 5, nice enough, showers, clean sheets, some have porno TV. I give them the money at the front desk so they can pay and bring my own condoms. Just because you saw nobody hot on the 1st trip doesn't mean they won't be there on the next walk thru, it is hit or miss.

Vera Cruz is the block behind the old white Iglesia de la Veracruz (construction started in 1682). You want Carr 53 between Calle 51 and 52 both side of the street. Some bars along there you can go in for a beer. Ignore most the ones up front by the church, the trannies hang out there. If they look young ask to see their Cedula (ID). If you see nada, walk 2 blocks over to the Raudal area, basically the 2 northern corners of Calle 53 / Carr 54. Less women but usually some hotter ones. I find that block a little sketchier, esp as it gets later.

Remember, she has to only be $10-$20 hot.

After dark I switch to the Centro big 3 strip clubs (Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva & Maracaibo) with occasional taxis to Fase II. That is all I hit in Medellin, not a Casa fan or Escort fan due to no time to check attitude and possibly old or touched up pictures), will hit some FB friends who are super hot on my next trip most likely also.Perfectly said, in the past almost 2 years now since frequenting the Vera and Raudal streets (and don't forget to check out the paseo at Botero plaza area) I have spent too much time than I care to admit and beside for siting in some of the bars and drinking / flirting and just having fun I have trolled these areas numerous times at day and night on my motorcycle, in my car and walking the streets, note 99% of the time with my trusted colombian buddy, we love the chase and damn must admit have found some real fun times.

I am almost all but done with the higher end clubs (ie Fase Dos and La Isla) and only will go with a group of guys who must check it out, same with the casas, same with majorista, same with FB chicas and Tinder and the cupid girls, etc. Etc. And now my wallet thanks me as I spend a fraction of what I use to and I could argue that I have more fun. With friends I still will hang with a buddy in a lower end club such as Barra Executiva or maricaibo or the playboy or the like and from time to time will take a girl out.

To each his own, what ever floats your boat guys. Just have fun.

The Tall Man.

PolloNegro
02-02-19, 20:53
Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.To keep all the diamonds for yourself? Stoke fear in the hearts of New mongers. Everyone who preaches fear about Medellin and Centro, are fearful in America as well. Did anyone read my previous post? 17 trips to Centro last year, not one incident of harm. People see me in Centro so much they walk up to me & call me by my Colombian name. So if you want to miss the best sex at the cheapest prices avoid Centro. But if you want to know all about centro you must do what The Tall Man, Wolf, myself & others have done. Put boots on the ground and explore centro for yourself. The best time for girls in vera cruz is 11:45 am-1 pm and 3 pm-6 pm. Lunch time & after school. Or work. Trust me, Pollo negro is out!

Wolf662
02-02-19, 21:29
Just to be clear, because I don't want to hear about somebody getting stabbed or robbed based on my posts:

El Centro aka La Candelaria, aka downtown is not for everybody.

If you are not used to sketchy places and dodgy people sizing you up to maybe mug you stay in El Poblado or Laurales or the Mansion and cab to the nicer strip clubs and Casa's and Gustos etc.

Eb1989
02-03-19, 01:50
How do I get an instagram model level girl? I've been sending DMs on tinder, facebook, and instagram (skipping Colombian cupid and SA for now) and not really getting any responses from 9's and 10's. I've just been introducing myself as an American tourist who will be visiting and ask if they will show me Medellin. Maybe just messaging the wrong girls, any leads of girls would be appreciated!

JjBee62
02-03-19, 03:03
How do you operate Centro! I have done every single method also! Except Centro! I have a skewed vision of it after watching YouTube videos. Maybe it's me but it seems like the most uncomfortable way of mongering. I imagine walking down some 3rd world looking street. Passing by shady guys and looking like a sore thumb. Then walking up to a group of thirsty unattractive women. Looking at them then walking as they make cat calls at me as I continue down ghetto streets on foot looking for a diamond in the ruff. LOL.

My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.

Mind you, I monger alone so what is the real way of doing this safely and with a bit of dignity LOL. The whole walking the streets just doesn't seem realistic for a foreigner. What's your methods? In detail please.I monger alone, although I've gone with others to walk around El Centro. Most of my time in El Centro has been solo. I'm also 6'4" and mid 50's in age. It's pretty obvious I'm not a local. Here's how I do it.

First thing, I take the Metro. Why pay an extra 12 k for a ride that will take 30 minutes longer? I prefer to get off at the San Antonio station. Parque Berrio station is closer, but I enjoy the walk from San Antonio. From the station I walk 1/2 block west and turn right and walk north. There's all kinds of clothing shops and a few restaurants. It's only about 3 blocks to the south end of Botero Plaza. You'll see the old, white Veracruz church on your left. Up to this point, other than a few guys trying to sell you blue jeans, nobody is going to bother you.

At the church turn left down the alley. Now you'll start seeing working girls, along with a few that don't appear to be anatomically correct girls. There aren't many gems to be found on this block, but occasionally one will stand out. At the corner turn right. There will be working girls on both sides of the street. Usually there are more on the left (west) side. You'll see all types here. Usually they'll just watch you go by. Occasionally one will try to get her hands on you. It's important to not let this happen. I usually will grab their wrist and say no. I've never had one continue after that. Rarely will any of the girls say anything, although a few will click their tongues to get your attention.

At this point you can either cross the street and come back the other side, or you can walk a block north then a block west to get to the Raudal area. It's only half a block long.

My advice is to keep moving. Don't stop to gawk. Only stop when you find one that interests you. Chances are, nobody will bother you.

Of course that's only one option. There's also the strip clubs. For those, it's best to take a taxi at night. Find a spot to sit down and get a beer or a bottle of water. If you see one you like, wave her over.

Probably the best option for you is a visit to the casas. Most guys will take a taxi to New Life, although I walk. The names of the casas won't help you much. The taxi drivers know where they are, but don't know the names. Give the driver the address and tell him it's "la casa de chicas con la puerta azul. "

Go through the blue door, you'll come to a security gate with a buzzer. Once the gate is unlocked go up to the waiting room. The manager will tell you where to sit and the lineup will come out. Having a pen and paper is handy because there will be about 20 girls. Each girl will shake your hand and tell you her name. Remember the name of the one you prefer. After the lineup tell the manager your choice. He'll call her out and she'll take you to a room. Afterwards she'll take you to the cashier.

If you don't see one you like, Aiffe is 1 block north. It has a red door. If nothing there, Sexxy Amigas is about 2 blocks away with a brown door. There are a few more all within walking distance.

As long as you follow the advice that's been given plenty of times here about keeping yourself safe, you should be fine.

JjBee62
02-03-19, 03:28
To be clear, Uber is a personal vehicle so I would not know. The Uber driver of course is a stranger to me- that is what I meant. I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.

Some girls claim to have friends that drive them but not likely in a taxi because that would require the driver of a yellow taxi to be on duty and available when she needed the ride to or from. That's not likely.

But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record.

It's about limiting exposure over time. I use apps that call yellow taxis and it works just fine, even if more expensive. I know girls buddy up and talk with Uber drivers. I prefer yellow taxis..Your reasoning is excellent. It's not necessarily correct, but it is excellent.

Let's start with the last part first. You returned from a shower to find the girl had already called for a ride? Instead of calling for a ride, she could have opened the door and let her friends inside. For someone so worried about security, this makes no sense.

Now let's go to the yellow taxis are safer angle. I remember seeing a girl riding around in a yellow taxi, through Parque Lleras, trying to flag down gringos and get them to get in the cab. Clearly she knew the driver and that seems like a dangerous taxi to me. I've also had a few girls show up in a taxi, where it was obvious they knew the driver. I've had a few girls call for a ride and the friend that showed up was in a yellow taxi.

These girls spend a lot of time in taxis. It's not unlikely for them to have a driver they work with.

I've been involved in a couple of conversations with taxi drivers. Both were nice guys, but they lived in rough areas. One was from Manrique and the other lived in Paris. That one even showed us his house. However, there are plenty of not so nice guys in those areas. How many of them have a taxi?

Uber, on the other hand, has requirements for the cars they allow. It's a larger investment for the driver, plus the driver already has taxi drivers who will beat the crap out of him if they get the chance. They have a lot more at stake than a taxi driver.

Personally, I've never had a problem with either. For a few months I used Uber a lot, then I began using taxis more.

Eb1989
02-03-19, 03:33
How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?

Eb1989
02-03-19, 06:27
How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?Sorry posted twice, didn't think first went through.

Chicafan
02-03-19, 06:53
Your reasoning is excellent. It's not necessarily correct, but it is excellent.
Let's start with the last part first. You returned from a shower to find the girl had already called for a ride? Instead of calling for a ride, she could have opened the door and let her friends inside. For someone so worried about security, this makes no sense.All that I meant was that I did not have her cancel the car. I don't know what else you are trying to say.


Now let's go to the yellow taxis are safer angle. I remember seeing a girl riding around in a yellow taxi, through Parque Lleras, trying to flag down gringos and get them to get in the cab. Clearly she knew the driver and that seems like a dangerous taxi to me. I've also had a few girls show up in a taxi, where it was obvious they knew the driver. I've had a few girls call for a ride and the friend that showed up was in a yellow taxi.There are several generic numbers for taxi service. If you are certain that a girl or girls to whom you gave taxi money did not call a taxi company then perhaps someone was waiting on them. My experience is that if I have a date with a girl from Bello a taxi driver is not parked down the street for two hours waiting on a 20 mil cab fare. Besides I call the taxi with an app so rarely am I not the one in touch with the taxi she leaves in. Your girls perhaps had drivers waiting in the vicinity. That happens.


These girls spend a lot of time in taxis. It's not unlikely for them to have a driver they work with.She might arrive with a familiar driver the first time she meets me but that's likely for her security. We know fewer crimes are committed in cooperation with taxis than unmarked vehicles.


I've been involved in a couple of conversations with taxi drivers. Both were nice guys, but they lived in rough areas. One was from Manrique and the other lived in Paris. That one even showed us his house. However, there are plenty of not so nice guys in those areas. How many of them have a taxi?That's irrelevant because far more not so nice guys have regular cars.



Uber, on the other hand, has requirements for the cars they allow. It's a larger investment for the driver, plus the driver already has taxi drivers who will beat the crap out of him if they get the chance. They have a lot more at stake than a taxi driver.I ask them to take a yellow taxi because otherwise I don't know who it is when she arrives, and if I'm on a busy street which car is hers if unmarked. But I never know the taxi driver she arrives with although that is the same with Uber.

Baudelairemod
02-03-19, 14:38
What I do is (I stay at the Botero 2 blocks from the redlight blocks) after breakfast I walk thru the Vera Cruz block and the Raudal block and see what's out, usually alone.

Dress like you are going to Home Depot to pick up some lumber, (no shorts / sandals) if you have light colored hair wear a ball cap, don't take more cash then you need, carry a photocopy of your passport and leave the real thing in your room or with the front desk, keep your phone in your pocket and don't stand around, only stop to talk to a girl, don't go after 5 pm when the locals are off work and starting to get drunk. I usually walk through 3 or 4 times a day, if you find one you want, ask her how much to play, the Vera Cruz ones should be in the 30 k range plus room (not sure how much for the room, I always hand them 50 k and tell them to keep the change as a tip) and the hotter Raudal chicks 60-80 k room incld. They will walk you a few feet to the stairs up to a short term hotel, I've been in 4 or 5, nice enough, showers, clean sheets, some have porno TV. I give them the money at the front desk so they can pay and bring my own condoms. Just because you saw nobody hot on the 1st trip doesn't mean they won't be there on the next walk thru, it is hit or miss.

Vera Cruz is the block behind the old white Iglesia de la Veracruz (construction started in 1682). You want Carr 53 between Calle 51 and 52 both side of the street. Some bars along there you can go in for a beer. Ignore most the ones up front by the church, the trannies hang out there. If they look young ask to see their Cedula (ID). If you see nada, walk 2 blocks over to the Raudal area, basically the 2 northern corners of Calle 53 / Carr 54. Less women but usually some hotter ones. I find that block a little sketchier, esp as it gets later.

Remember, she has to only be $10-$20 hot.

After dark I switch to the Centro big 3 strip clubs (Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva & Maracaibo) with occasional taxis to Fase II. That is all I hit in Medellin, not a Casa fan or Escort fan due to no time to check attitude and possibly old or touched up pictures), will hit some FB friends who are super hot on my next trip most likely also.Great selection that actually exemplifies what Centro is all about. Some decent looking girls, some very young, some a bit trashy (tattoos and what not) and a real gem of a girl (the one sat on a stool with the knee-high Roman sandals and the white dress). Mind you, that's clearly just my opinion and I am sure that most of you probably wouldn't give her a second look!

But that's the beauty of El Centro, Medellin and Colombia in general. Plenty of choice for everyone!

JjBee62
02-03-19, 17:06
All that I meant was that I did not have her cancel the car. I don't know what else you are trying to say.What I'm saying is that you left a girl unattended in your apartment while you were in the shower. She called for a ride while you were in the shower. Instead of calling for a ride, she could have just unlocked the door for her friends waiting outside. That's basically how a guy got killed in Parque Lleras, December 2017. Stabbed during a robbery attempt.

February or early March of 2018 another guy left a girl unattended, while he went to the bathroom. When he came out she had taken the money from his wallet and his cellphone and left.


There are several generic numbers for taxi service. If you are certain that a girl or girls to whom you gave taxi money did not call a taxi company then perhaps someone was waiting on them. My experience is that if I have a date with a girl from Bello a taxi driver is not parked down the street for two hours waiting on a 20 mil cab fare. Besides I call the taxi with an app so rarely am I not the one in touch with the taxi she leaves in. Your girls perhaps had drivers waiting in the vicinity. That happens.I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that not every woman, who is selling her ass in Medellin, is a perfect angel. I personally don't care, because I don't put myself in a situation where they can carry out any bad intentions. So the worst they can do is fail to live up to my expectations.

I've used both Tappsi and Easy Taxi apps to call cabs. If a girl is intending something bad and she knows what time she's seeing you, it's not difficult to have her friend come to her place and wait a few minutes for the pick up to go out over Easy Taxi. Just like, if she knows she'll be done with you at a certain time, it's not difficult to have a friend waiting to pick her up. Even if he's waiting 2 hours, what's he losing? 30 k? 50 k? Hell, if you're repeating with a girl, she already knows she'll be left alone to open the door while you're in the shower.


She might arrive with a familiar driver the first time she meets me but that's likely for her security. We know fewer crimes are committed in cooperation with taxis than unmarked vehicles.Pardon me, but how do we know this? This sounds a lot like something made up because it supports your beliefs.

I've had 3 taxi drivers pick me up with the meter already well above the start rate. The first time I didn't notice it until I was halfway home. Cost me 12 k for a 6 k ride. The other times I caught it. I've had more than one driver try to give me the wrong change. In one case he claimed I had given him 10 k when I gave him 20 k. I've had a driver give me a counterfeit bill on change. A friend had a driver drive off with her cellphone. I had a driver attempt to drive off with my luggage. I've had drivers take "shortcuts" to run up the meter.

To be fair, I've had drivers who refused a tip, who gave me back my money when I mistakenly handed over a 50 k bill instead of a 5 k bill and who have been exceptionally kind, helpful and polite. Assuming someone is good or bad depending on whether they drive a taxi or an Uber is just wishful thinking.


That's irrelevant because far more not so nice guys have regular cars.Once again, this is silly. If you had said "motos" I would have agreed with you. I've been up where the not so nice guys live. Not a lot of garages up there. Not a lot of Renault or Chevy cars (the 2 types that most often show when I call Uber) parked on the street. Some old Mazdas and Nissans, some old Renaults, but not much in the way of late model sedans.


I ask them to take a yellow taxi because otherwise I don't know who it is when she arrives, and if I'm on a busy street which car is hers if unmarked. But I never know the taxi driver she arrives with although that is the same with Uber.Now you're on to something. If you used an app to send a taxi to her, you know the license number and it's easy to see which one she is in. However, if you used Uber to call for a ride, you know the license number and the make and model of the car. And it's easy to see which one she is in.h

You do what works for you. But don't confuse the situation with exaggerated risks. You're putting yourself in a much riskier situation every time you leave a girl alone while you shower, than you are by letting her arrange her own ride.

Wolf662
02-03-19, 17:14
How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?You might find one you think is a 10 at the upper end strip clubs but one we all think is a 10 is either a Trophy Wife, a model or in Dubai or has a Cartel member who weighs his money to count it giving her a $5 to 10 grand.

Turgid
02-03-19, 17:50
How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?I've read on previous posts here that La Isla has fitness model level 10's.

Vern2020
02-03-19, 17:50
I appreciate all of the recent posts about mongering in El Centro. I'm leaning towards staying in this area for my trip later this year. Is Nutibara a good hotel to stay at? Chica friendly, hassle free? Or, is the best recommendation to use the love motels? I've traveled to San Jose and Sosua, and I've always just brought the girls back to my room at Chica friendly hotels. Are the love motels sketchy, or easy to use? Will the girl just know of a decent one to take me to? My Spanish is basic, but I'm getting better. Studying online. Thanks.

Kavin76
02-03-19, 19:15
Hey guys,

I am arriving in Medellin this week so I am brainstorming for important information as it comes to me.

One concern / question I have is about bringing a girl or girls back to my apartment with me. I have talked to many girls on cupid, so the arrangement requires going somewhere to have fun. I shouldn't have any lobby entry issues for being shaken down for money since I have an apartment rented in El Poblado area, but I have read some stories on occasion about the possibility of "sticky fingers" in my apartment, and even worse, girls that cause problems, especially when you bring more than one girl back. I plan to have more than one threesome during my trip so I am curious what that can involve. My apartment is my private sanctuary of course and these girls are all strangers to me, so I would like to get any and all thoughts on this topic. I speak almost no Spanish, but I do know some basic words. However a translator will be a requirement for me.

Thanks.

Zhagolo52
02-03-19, 19:56
There is no single place where you can find a 10. That being said, your 10 may be different than anyone else 10. Also there is a higher concentrations of better looking girls in the strip clubs but from my experience the hotter the girl the worse the service it will be. She knows that she is going to go up regardless and she does; t need repeat costumers so she will not put that much effort into it. The 2 hottest girl I have ever bagged where from Casas the best looking and best service and still wouldn't give them a 10. I don't believe there is such a thing in my book. Good luck finding them!


How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?

LikeItTight
02-03-19, 21:27
Hello gents,

I'm flying into MDE tonight will be there until the 15th, anybody want to grab a drink or do the street / casa scene? Share some stories.

Sangnyc21
02-03-19, 23:05
Of course everyone has different tastes but I have also heard the Cartel members get the first crack st the hottest girls in Colombia. They get beauty pageant contestants models tv personalities.

These girls will not be available to gringo mongers in their prime. Once they taste the lifestyle and money they go after Arab money next.

After they hit their late 20's and the next groups of 10's replace them they've prob had a kid or 2 from the BBFS they have to do for insane amounts of Cartel money they'll go to Dubai or Europe to try to make as much as they can and.

That's when you'll see them at the casas or clubs depending on how well they age.

However most guys here including myself would think a colombiana who is an 8 is a 10 in the states which is why we still come back.

PolloNegro
02-04-19, 00:52
Of course everyone has different tastes but I have also heard the Cartel members get the first crack st the hottest girls in Colombia. They get beauty pageant contestants models tv personalities.

These girls will not be available to gringo mongers in their prime. Once they taste the lifestyle and money they go after Arab money next.

After they hit their late 20's and the next groups of 10's replace them they've prob had a kid or 2 from the BBFS they have to do for insane amounts of Cartel money they'll go to Dubai or Europe to try to make as much as they can and.

That's when you'll see them at the casas or clubs depending on how well they age.

However most guys here including myself would think a colombiana who is an 8 is a 10 in the states which is why we still come back.Unless you are a Cartel Member or Arab who has bought some of these Medellin girls, please be mindful and open minded about speculations. If you mention money in this forum you will be bashed, if you mention Centro they will say you will be robbed. I will tell you this, I exclusively monger in Centro, and I have met plenty of girls who meet my standards. Many on the board will tell you that they have had beauties beyond belief, but never one pic. The most common excuse is this, I respect the girl. If they respected the girl, they would not pay her for sex and would tell her to find some upstanding work, but that's not neither here nor there.

Plenty of people have inboxed me and I have sent them photos of girls and numbers and the nearly 95% of the guys ask about the skinny girls that I send and truly I am a ass man, so once again, landing a 10 is in the eye of the beholder. I have come to terms that many mongers have a little woman syndrome and they won't spinners under a 100 lbs and under 5 foot. Then this is what you need to say, don't just say, I want a 10. To be honest, most of the chics I see guys chasing are extremely young looking and that's cool, but say that, don't just say, I want a 10.

My favorite chic is a few girls from Centro, who allow all 3 hole access, and swallow and do anything you ask for the pesos. If you are obsessed with physical beauty then you should also say that, but for me, performance is what makes a woman a 10, not just looks. I have had many chics in Casas that wouldn't let me take pics, or wanted a tip for BBBJ and had too many rules. The 10 factor is all in the mind and you have to know what your 10 factor is and what you are willing to pay. Fortunately, I take enough pesos with me to achieve every desire I can think of, that's what a monger has to be honest with himself about. What services and looks do you want for the pesos that you are spending. I can't tell you how much money to bring, as this is also a problem starter. If you happen to see a Unicorn and you have to have her, it would be ashame to miss that Unicorn due to lack of funds. To all Mongers have fun, be safe and I will see Medellin in March. Pollo Negro is out!

Knowledge
02-04-19, 00:58
You left out the Curacao / Aruba / Saint Martin circuit. It's real. What the cartels do or don't do makes no difference to me. What little I know of that world does not appeal to me in any way.


Of course everyone has different tastes but I have also heard the Cartel members get the first crack st the hottest girls in Colombia. They get beauty pageant contestants models tv personalities.

These girls will not be available to gringo mongers in their prime. Once they taste the lifestyle and money they go after Arab money next.

After they hit their late 20's and the next groups of 10's replace them they've prob had a kid or 2 from the BBFS they have to do for insane amounts of Cartel money they'll go to Dubai or Europe to try to make as much as they can and.

That's when you'll see them at the casas or clubs depending on how well they age.

However most guys here including myself would think a colombiana who is an 8 is a 10 in the states which is why we still come back.

Talon
02-04-19, 01:37
How do I get an instagram model level girl? I've been sending DMs on tinder, facebook, and instagram (skipping Colombian cupid and SA for now) and not really getting any responses from 9's and 10's. I've just been introducing myself as an American tourist who will be visiting and ask if they will show me Medellin. Maybe just messaging the wrong girls, any leads of girls would be appreciated!In my case it was it was a combination of blind luck and casting a large net, messaging hundreds of girls on facebook. It was only after I slept with them and added their instagram pages did I realize they had 150,000+ followers.

My introductory message has never varied; I'm visiting Colombia and would love to meet them. Short and straight to the point.

YippieKayay
02-04-19, 01:52
Of course everyone has different tastes but I have also heard the Cartel members get the first crack st the hottest girls in Colombia. They get beauty pageant contestants models tv personalities.

These girls will not be available to gringo mongers in their prime. Once they taste the lifestyle and money they go after Arab money next.I think we need to take a step back from the Narcos and Sicario series. There are lots of '10's' that aren't involved in anything nefarious. The criminal organizations are not efficient enough to grab all of them into some bizarre cartel to arabs ladder system. Most never really retire because unless you work for a multinational or run a successful business you aren't going to earn much in Colombia.

Talon
02-04-19, 01:57
I forgot to mention Tinder is chock full of model profiles, most of which also list their instagram page and tell you to message them there.

Wolf662
02-04-19, 02:22
Is Nutibara a good hotel to stay at? Chica friendly, hassle free? Or, is the best recommendation to use the love motels? Are the love motels sketchy, or easy to use? Will the girl just know of a decent one to take me to? .I think but am not sure Nutribara is no guests after 9 pm but I'd email or write them. I stay behind there at the Botero, review in the MED hotel thread, post #925.

I have used the love Hotel Eros in Centro, it was easy and nice, had a steam room and a hot tub in my room. But cab there, sketchy area.

Next time I think I will try the Hotel 3 the Suite, rooms look nice.

This page has a drop down menu with lots of Love Hotels.

https://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/habitaciones/

PolloNegro
02-04-19, 04:14
I think we need to take a step back from the Narcos and Sicario series. There are lots of '10's' that aren't involved in anything nefarious. The criminal organizations are not efficient enough to grab all of them into some bizarre cartel to arabs ladder system. Most never really retire because unless you work for a multinational or run a successful business you aren't going to earn much in Colombia.A year ago, I fell in love with the Medellin post for Colombia, because it seemed exciting and the girls seemed incredible. The girls are incredible, Medellin is a beautiful place to find girls and members will do anything do distract other members from finding quality chics. I went to Medellin and hooked up with wolf and he taught me the ropes. I went back 16 more times after that. One day, members find 10's, then they get'them cheap, then the Casas's are the best thing smoking and the truth is its just distraction.

There are only a few members who post worthwhile photos, information and location of Casas and trustworthy girls. Out of respect, if you're not a Cartel member, leave them guys to do their own thing. If your pesos are little, then save more, and then go find you some expensive chics with horrible sex. But let me assure you, no one has better sex than a chic with a hungry child and an impending rent bill, that's why most chics are in Vera Cruz. Look back through my posts and you will see I post hotel rooms, girls, locations. Look through the many posts and you will see Hotel Normandia is girl friendly, clean, old but it is only $16.00/ day.

On a bright note, the Cartel, does not really deal with everyday chicas who work in this profession, these girls talk too much, and it puts the Cartel at risk, so don't worry about banging the Cartel's girl, they wouldn't risk dealing with these loose ends, only mongers like us care about banging these chics and we have no Narco's they can rat on us about, Pollo Negro is out. LOL.

TadaiMaybe
02-04-19, 08:07
Hey guys,

I am arriving in Medellin this week so I am brainstorming for important information as it comes to me.

One concern / question I have is about bringing a girl or girls back to my apartment with me. I have talked to many girls on cupid, so the arrangement requires going somewhere to have fun. I shouldn't have any lobby entry issues for being shaken down for money since I have an apartment rented in El Poblado area, but I have read some stories on occasion about the possibility of "sticky fingers" in my apartment, and even worse, girls that cause problems, especially when you bring more than one girl back. I plan to have more than one threesome during my trip so I am curious what that can involve. My apartment is my private sanctuary of course and these girls are all strangers to me, so I would like to get any and all thoughts on this topic. I speak almost no Spanish, but I do know some basic words. However a translator will be a requirement for me.

Thanks.If you are going to participate in this type of activity, you must know there's always a risk, whether it is the risk of being robbed, drugged, beaten by thugs, etc. If you want risk free simply don't partake in this hobby because it doesn't exist. Having said that, you can minimize the potential for being a victim. My recommendations: 1) Don't leave your drinks unattended, better to open your own beer and hold it in your hand. Best to not drink so as you're in control and alert at all times. 2) Don't do drugs as you're going to lose control of the situation. 3) keep your valuables and belongings hidden and in a safe place. I split then hide my currency, passport, etc. In multiple places so if one place is discovered and stolen all is not lost. 4) Don't leave the chicas alone and don't let them split from you. All three take a shower together, go to the balcony together, smoke the cigarette outside together, etc. Etc. You always want to be in visual contact with the chicas 4) once inside the apt, lock the door and take out the key so the chics can't let someone in. Most need a key to lock and don't operate with a latch which is ideal 5) if there's a doorman / security, slip them little cash and ask them to call you and check on you before they let the girls leave the building.

Jooks
02-04-19, 13:23
This post is directed to expats living in CO or knowledgeable about the subject. It has nothing to do with the theme of this board, sorry. I hesitate to get too personal, but screw it. For those that subscribe to expat boards, I've also asked the same question on another board. Please excuse the repetition.

I'm an American looking to retire in Medellin or possibly Cali or elsewhere, though my experience outside Medellin is very limited. I only mention Cali as I believe the cost of living is less than Medellin and I like warm weather. I'd like to inquire what kind of life I would have living on a small pension of about $2200 monthly. The best I can tell from my visits is that my standard of living would be much lower than it is now.

Not to get into all the gory details, I lost my business and with it, my savings. Hence, I have to rely on my pension. Although I'm a professional and have commanded a good salary, at 67 I find that jobs are much more difficult to come by. I was recently laid off and can't even get an interview. Besides, after over 50 years of working, I'm ready to leave the cold winters here in the northeast and enjoy retired life.

Is a decent apartment in a relatively safe area with enough left over for food, modest entertainment, basic medical (I'm healthy), etc possible in my circumstances? The decision I need to make is whether to struggle to look for work so I can replenish my savings somewhat or take the plunge and retire. Thanks.

HappyShiva
02-04-19, 13:44
This post is directed to expats living in CO or knowledgeable about the subject. It has nothing to do with the theme of this board, sorry. I hesitate to get too personal, but screw it. For those that subscribe to expat boards, I've also asked the same question on another board. Please excuse the repetition.

I'm an American looking to retire in Medellin or possibly Cali or elsewhere, though my experience outside Medellin is very limited. I only mention Cali as I believe the cost of living is less than Medellin and I like warm weather. I'd like to inquire what kind of life I would have living on a small pension of about $2200 monthly. The best I can tell from my visits is that my standard of living would be much lower than it is now.

Not to get into all the gory details, I lost my business and with it, my savings. Hence, I have to rely on my pension. Although I'm a professional and have commanded a good salary, at 67 I find that jobs are much more difficult to come by. I was recently laid off and can't even get an interview. Besides, after over 50 years of working, I'm ready to leave the cold winters here in the northeast and enjoy retired life.

Is a decent apartment in a relatively safe area with enough left over for food, modest entertainment, basic medical (I'm healthy), etc possible in my circumstances? The decision I need to make is whether to struggle to look for work so I can replenish my savings somewhat or take the plunge and retire. Thanks.Our story is similar and I am also planning to retire in next few years in a warm country full of beauties. Of course, you can live a comfortable life for your monthly pension if you do not monger. Being american, you might find a young colombian as a wife.

John Gault
02-04-19, 14:43
I appreciate all of the recent posts about mongering in El Centro. I'm leaning towards staying in this area for my trip later this year. Is Nutibara a good hotel to stay at? Chica friendly, hassle free? Or, is the best recommendation to use the love motels? I've traveled to San Jose and Sosua, and I've always just brought the girls back to my room at Chica friendly hotels. Are the love motels sketchy, or easy to use? Will the girl just know of a decent one to take me to? My Spanish is basic, but I'm getting better. Studying online. Thanks.Hotel Nutibara is a grand old hotel that after 6 PM no outside guests are allowed.

Turgid
02-04-19, 15:26
.........After they hit their late 20's and the next groups of 10's replace them they've prob had a kid or 2 from the BBFS they have to do for insane amounts of Cartel money they'll go to Dubai or Europe to try to make as much as they can and.............From the well over 200 chicas I have seen in casas so far this trip very few are in their late 20's. The vast majority are in their early 20's. A few even in their late teens.

Hasideas Tao
02-04-19, 15:55
How do you operate Centro! I have done every single method also! Except Centro! I have a skewed vision of it after watching YouTube videos. Maybe it's me but it seems like the most uncomfortable way of mongering. I imagine walking down some 3rd world looking street. Passing by shady guys and looking like a sore thumb. Then walking up to a group of thirsty unattractive women. Looking at them then walking as they make cat calls at me as I continue down ghetto streets on foot looking for a diamond in the ruff. LOL.

My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.

Mind you, I monger alone so what is the real way of doing this safely and with a bit of dignity LOL. The whole walking the streets just doesn't seem realistic for a foreigner. What's your methods? In detail please.Bicycle! On bike I can give you a perspective of Medellin like no other. Sketchy areas seem not quite as sketchy. We can cover 10 times more ground on bicyle than on foot and you will notice 1000 times more detail than if you were cruising around in a car. I know the city very well. Who wants to ride bikes?

Jooks
02-04-19, 16:10
Bicycle! On bike I can give you a perspective of Medellin like no other. Sketchy areas seem not quite as sketchy. We can cover 10 times more ground on bicyle than on foot and you will notice 1000 times more detail than if you were cruising around in a car. I know the city very well. Who wants to ride bikes?I'm an avid cyclist and gave up my car for a bike. I live just outside NYC. Biking the streets is hazardous most everywhere though. I can't imagine navigating the streets of Medellin on bike, especially not knowing the city well. There doesn't seem to be many bike lanes. And motorists are completely crazy in Medellin as is the case in much of Latin America. It is dangerous enough for a pedestrian. Perhaps when I get there you can show me the way.

Mr Enternational
02-04-19, 16:48
My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.Now that is what would be weird to me. When you walk you go at your own pace and can stop and talk to whoever whenever. Turn around and walk back in the same direction. If you are in a car you have to go with the flow of traffic. Then say you pass by and see a chick you like. You tell the taxi to circle back around. By then a guy like me has already walked up and taken her. Then people see the same car stopping and going and circling around and it looks suspicious. Don't try to reinvent the wheel. There are thousands of people everyday walking and doing this and you want to be the only one in a car sticking out like a sore thumb.

Wolf662
02-04-19, 19:14
This post is directed to expats living in CO or knowledgeable about the subject. It has nothing to do with the theme of this board, sorry. I hesitate to get too personal, but screw it. For those that subscribe to expat boards, I've also asked the same question on another board. Please excuse the repetition.

I'm an American looking to retire in Medellin or possibly Cali or elsewhere, though my experience outside Medellin is very limited. I only mention Cali as I believe the cost of living is less than Medellin and I like warm weather. I'd like to inquire what kind of life I would have living on a small pension of about $2200 monthly. The best I can tell from my visits is that my standard of living would be much lower than it is now.

Not to get into all the gory details, I lost my business and with it, my savings. Hence, I have to rely on my pension. Although I'm a professional and have commanded a good salary, at 67 I find that jobs are much more difficult to come by. I was recently laid off and can't even get an interview. Besides, after over 50 years of working, I'm ready to leave the cold winters here in the northeast and enjoy retired life.

Is a decent apartment in a relatively safe area with enough left over for food, modest entertainment, basic medical (I'm healthy), etc possible in my circumstances? The decision I need to make is whether to struggle to look for work so I can replenish my savings somewhat or take the plunge and retire. Thanks.There is a thread called: "Living and retirement in Medellin" in the user blogs, lots of good info there:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3319-Living-and-retirement-in-Medellin

Also the Miami Herald recently covered that:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/colombia/article203230594.html?fbclid=IwAR2ArTL-GuwIOtASnesXaMi3PUBn90FsCX5NFtkLQWchnGB-sHtkev_51Jw

My buddy Steward who is retired in Med, after living at the Hotel Botero for a year got a apt:

It is in Belen La Palma, has a balcony, living room, bedroom, bathroom and kitchen for $240 a month, utilities included. Says he's surrounded by good neighborhoods, two blocks from an Exito, 10 minutes walk from Los Molinos Mall.

GeneHickman
02-04-19, 23:45
From the well over 200 chicas I have seen in casas so far this trip very few are in their late 20's. The vast majority are in their early 20's. A few even in their late teens.Which Casas have you been to?

The Tall Man
02-05-19, 00:02
Unless you are a Cartel Member or Arab who has bought some of these Medellin girls, please be mindful and open minded about speculations. If you mention money in this forum you will be bashed, if you mention Centro they will say you will be robbed. I will tell you this, I exclusively monger in Centro, and I have met plenty of girls who meet my standards. Many on the board will tell you that they have had beauties beyond belief, but never one pic. The most common excuse is this, I respect the girl. If they respected the girl, they would not pay her for sex and would tell her to find some upstanding work, but that's not neither here nor there.

Plenty of people have inboxed me and I have sent them photos of girls and numbers and the nearly 95% of the guys ask about the skinny girls that I send and truly I am a ass man, so once again, landing a 10 is in the eye of the beholder. I have come to terms that many mongers have a little woman syndrome and they won't spinners under a 100 lbs and under 5 foot. Then this is what you need to say, don't just say, I want a 10. To be honest, most of the chics I see guys chasing are extremely young looking and that's cool, but say that, don't just say, I want a 10.

My favorite chic is a few girls from Centro, who allow all 3 hole access, and swallow and do anything you ask for the pesos. If you are obsessed with physical beauty then you should also say that, but for me, performance is what makes a woman a 10, not just looks. I have had many chics in Casas that wouldn't let me take pics, or wanted a tip for BBBJ and had too many rules. The 10 factor is all in the mind and you have to know what your 10 factor is and what you are willing to pay. Fortunately, I take enough pesos with me to achieve every desire I can think of, that's what a monger has to be honest with himself about. What services and looks do you want for the pesos that you are spending. I can't tell you how much money to bring, as this is also a problem starter. If you happen to see a Unicorn and you have to have her, it would be ashame to miss that Unicorn due to lack of funds. To all Mongers have fun, be safe and I will see Medellin in March. Pollo Negro is out!PolloNegro is completely legit as the tall man has connected with him off line and I for one appreciate his honesty and style for the chicas, lets just say that we have chica freinds in common, jajajaja.

So many guys are chasing the 10 for whatever that means, now I must admit that in years past that I, when I had a shit load of discretionary income to burn, have paid handsomely for a real top 10 model type material, but things change and I am on the low key budget manager system for stretching my pesos and guess what I am having a blast with the centro chicas and other low volume under the radar girl next door, who like PolloNegro some of you would go "WTF", to each his own, just be real and have fun and go with the flow.

The Tall Man.

PaisaPorFavor
02-05-19, 00:11
I start by Veracruz church. Walk down beside it, make a right, walk all the way down to the end of the block, cross the street and walk the other side. I then circle back to the girl I liked most or sit down at a bar and have a drink. There will also be girls in the bars you don't see as you walk by. Im sure we stick out but the street is bustling with traffic, venders, delivery trucks, and other pedestrians going about their day. I personally don't walk around long and find a good viewpoint from the bar. You will have venders walking up trying to sell you everything under the sun. I otherwise haven't been bothered. It is cheap and a fun hunt for something I like. Which is not always immediate so go shopping, have lunch, check out the musuem, Botero statues, then walk back through. So much to see/do down there. Easy to spend the whole day down there for me.
The Ruadal area is close as well if you prefer to head to that area for a loop.

How do you operate Centro! I have done every single method also! Except Centro! I have a skewed vision of it after watching YouTube videos. Maybe it's me but it seems like the most uncomfortable way of mongering. I imagine walking down some 3rd world looking street. Passing by shady guys and looking like a sore thumb. Then walking up to a group of thirsty unattractive women. Looking at them then walking as they make cat calls at me as I continue down ghetto streets on foot looking for a diamond in the ruff. LOL.

My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.

Mind you, I monger alone so what is the real way of doing this safely and with a bit of dignity LOL. The whole walking the streets just doesn't seem realistic for a foreigner. What's your methods? In detail please..

HappyShiva
02-05-19, 01:11
PolloNegro is completely legit as the tall man has connected with him off line and I for one appreciate his honesty and style for the chicas, lets just say that we have chica freinds in common, jajajaja.

So many guys are chasing the 10 for whatever that means, now I must admit that in years past that I, when I had a shit load of discretionary income to burn, have paid handsomely for a real top 10 model type material, but things change and I am on the low key budget manager system for stretching my pesos and guess what I am having a blast with the centro chicas and other low volume under the radar girl next door, who like PolloNegro some of you would go "WTF", to each his own, just be real and have fun and go with the flow.

The Tall Man.I am on colombian cupid and my search indicates that the women in Bogota are pretties then Medellin.

Nyahbinghi83
02-05-19, 01:51
I'm making my maiden trip to Medellin 2nd-3rd week of March, and have been reading the forum extensively. I have set up a faux Facebook page and plan to step out into centro since by all accounts, I fit in there. I was wondering if you guys could share a name or some names to add to my account. I have WhatsApp too PN but I can't pay to be a member for some fucked up reasons and was hoping you could give a helping hand.

JjBee62
02-05-19, 05:12
This post is directed to expats living in CO or knowledgeable about the subject. It has nothing to do with the theme of this board, sorry. I hesitate to get too personal, but screw it. For those that subscribe to expat boards, I've also asked the same question on another board. Please excuse the repetition.

I'm an American looking to retire in Medellin or possibly Cali or elsewhere, though my experience outside Medellin is very limited. I only mention Cali as I believe the cost of living is less than Medellin and I like warm weather. I'd like to inquire what kind of life I would have living on a small pension of about $2200 monthly. The best I can tell from my visits is that my standard of living would be much lower than it is now.

Not to get into all the gory details, I lost my business and with it, my savings. Hence, I have to rely on my pension. Although I'm a professional and have commanded a good salary, at 67 I find that jobs are much more difficult to come by. I was recently laid off and can't even get an interview. Besides, after over 50 years of working, I'm ready to leave the cold winters here in the northeast and enjoy retired life.

Is a decent apartment in a relatively safe area with enough left over for food, modest entertainment, basic medical (I'm healthy), etc possible in my circumstances? The decision I need to make is whether to struggle to look for work so I can replenish my savings somewhat or take the plunge and retire. Thanks.I'll respond in the General thread, since this relates to more than just Medellin.

PolloNegro
02-05-19, 07:03
I'm making my maiden trip to Medellin 2nd-3rd week of March, and have been reading the forum extensively. I have set up a faux Facebook page and plan to step out into centro since by all accounts, I fit in there. I was wondering if you guys could share a name or some names to add to my account. I have WhatsApp too PN but I can't pay to be a member for some fucked up reasons and was hoping you could give a helping hand.In Centro Mar 7-21 you will definitely see me, and we can link up, I can show you the ropes and Vera Cruz.

Turgid
02-05-19, 16:05
I start by Veracruz church. Walk down beside it, make a right, walk all the way down to the end of the block, cross the street and walk the other side. I then circle back to the girl I liked most or sit down at a bar and have a drink. There will also be girls in the bars you don't see as you walk by. Im sure we stick out but the street is bustling with traffic, venders, delivery trucks, and other pedestrians going about their day. I personally don't walk around long and find a good viewpoint from the bar. You will have venders walking up trying to sell you everything under the sun. I otherwise haven't been bothered. It is cheap and a fun hunt for something I like. Which is not always immediate so go shopping, have lunch, check out the musuem, Botero statues, then walk back through. So much to see/do down there. Easy to spend the whole day down there for me.
The Ruadal area is close as well if you prefer to head to that area for a loop.
.I decided to walk through the areas of El Centro frequented by street walkers in the afternoon yesterday and was struck by the numbers of young attractive chicas I saw mainly standing at doorways. Most of them actually ignored me among the hustle and bustle that was going on which made me feel that I was not all that noticeable which I like. I will feel way too self conscious grabbing one at that time of day but some evening or night time activity is definitely in the offing.

Turgid
02-05-19, 16:19
Which Casas have you been to?For Americans on a short trip the best bet is either New Life or Energy. Why go spending a lot of time moving around from one casa to the other? I have seen numerous Americans in those two casas who appeared to be very contented with their sessions. These two casas have the widest selections of over 20 chicas on any given day and the chances of getting someone to your liking is high. Those who like big bundas will not be disappointed especially at New Life although there are flacas in both casas. The flaca I had in New Life was 19 years old.

WindAngel
02-05-19, 17:01
I have WhatsApp too PN but I can't pay to be a member for some fucked up reasons and was hoping you could give a helping hand.Isn't there a cash payment option? You should just do it now.

Wolf662
02-05-19, 18:25
I decided to walk through the areas of El Centro frequented by street walkers in the afternoon yesterday and was struck by the numbers of young attractive chicas I saw mainly standing at doorways. Most of them actually ignored me among the hustle and bustle that was going on which made me feel that I was not all that noticeable which I like. I will feel way too self conscious grabbing one at that time of day but some evening or night time activity is definitely in the offing.I like the area much less at night, the hustle and bustle you are lost in is gone to be replaced by a bunch of local dudes getting drunk, lot less cops around at night also.

Orgasmico
02-05-19, 18:42
Watched the boring Super Bowl near Lleras. Afterwards stoped in Gusto and another spot near Hooters. Both places has some pretty nice talent. Didn't talk numbers with anyone but I could see how guys have a good time around there. I plan to get back to those places at some point.

Nyahbinghi83
02-05-19, 19:48
In Centro Mar 7-21 you will definitely see me, and we can link up, I can show you the ropes and Vera Cruz.Staying in Blux Apartments since it's my first time but my speed is more centro so I'll definitely need appreciate that. Also have read all your post on this forum and salute you for pulling the family and sisters off! That alone deserves a bottle of henny or scotch. Salute!

The Tall Man
02-05-19, 20:34
Watched the boring Super Bowl near Lleras. Afterwards stoped in Gusto and another spot near Hooters. Both places has some pretty nice talent. Didn't talk numbers with anyone but I could see how guys have a good time around there. I plan to get back to those places at some point.Yes the game is now named, rightly so, the Superdull, jajajaja.

What a waist of 3 or 4 hours watching it, decent half time show though.

Yes sometimes you can find good talent at and around the bars in park lleras BUT the majority are asking more than my wallet wants or needs to pay and you have zero guarantees what kind of service you get.

To each his own.

The Tall Man.

Nyahbinghi83
02-05-19, 21:50
Isn't there a cash payment option? You should just do it now.I would readily do it if there was, but there's only ewallet and CC.

Orgasmico
02-05-19, 22:14
the majority are asking more than my wallet wants or needs to pay and you have zero guarantees what kind of service you get.

I could see that because the number of sex tourists and overall tourists in Medellin and especially around Lleras has really increased exponentially. I remember as recent as 5 years ago it not being like it is now. It's pretty normal now to see groups of American and Canadian females sporting feminism shirts and things of the like around the city.

Mr Enternational
02-06-19, 01:26
Much too dangerous around here tonight. Anyone know who I could rent a Poblado condo from this time of night. I am about to check out of my $12 hotel down here because this is too scary for me.

Blklouky
02-06-19, 01:58
Much too dangerous around here tonight. Anyone know who I could rent a Poblado condo from this time of night. I am about to check out of my $12 hotel down here because this is too scary for me.What hotel are you staying at?

Queens35
02-06-19, 03:35
New Life is the only casa I have been to during this visit where I have encountered American mongers. New Life is the only casa in which I have been asked for a propina.God forbid seeing other Americans. And being asked for a propina? For heaven's sake, I'm never going back. Nah, I'll go and if I don't want to tip, I'll just say no. The easiest word to learn, same in Spanish and English, for the Spanish challenged.

Queens35
02-06-19, 03:40
How do I get an instagram model level girl? I've been sending DMs on tinder, facebook, and instagram (skipping Colombian cupid and SA for now) and not really getting any responses from 9's and 10's. I've just been introducing myself as an American tourist who will be visiting and ask if they will show me Medellin. Maybe just messaging the wrong girls, any leads of girls would be appreciated!Have you considered that mybe not every girl in Medellin is a working girl? They probably think that you are a cheap gringo who's looking for a freebie. Offer them money upfront. For one of those 9-10's I'd start with 300 k for 1. 5-2 hours. If they have ever hooked, they will probably bite at that figure. Any lower, and they won't even respond.

Mr Enternational
02-06-19, 06:13
How do I get an instagram model level girl? I've been sending DMs on tinder, facebook, and instagram (skipping Colombian cupid and SA for now) and not really getting any responses from 9's and 10's.You must be sitting at home horny. Dude that shit is all surgery, makeup, and camera tricks. When have you ever seen a picture of one of those chicks just sitting home on the sofa looking at TV with sweatpants and no makeup on? NEVER! Because that will ruin the illusion or dream they are trying to sell guys like you.

Think back to when you were in high school or college. How many of those 9s and 10s were in school with you? NONE! That is because the shit is made up. In the words of Eddie Murphy, I just got some regular old crackers.

Revere
02-06-19, 06:43
Much too dangerous around here tonight. Anyone know who I could rent a Poblado condo from this time of night. I am about to check out of my $12 hotel down here because this is too scary for me.I do not understand why you guys not from the streets want to visit bad areas for pussy. Just does not seem worth it to me. If your not from the streets, people will spot a duck a mile away. Now, I know some will say do not think because you from the barrio you can go there. All, I will say to that being from the streets people in the game know how to move. There is a reason you do not read people from the streets getting caught up. Put another way assassins from commune 13 would turn around and walk away in fear if they had to walk into Cabrini Green or Rockwell Gardens at night with no hallway or lights on the elevator. If you not from the streets, why tempt fate. Your not built for that environment. Why chance it over some pussy.

CeeJay1
02-06-19, 06:50
Its been a few years since I been to Medellin, has New life change? Is the area around Carrera 43 change much? Are there any decent places to eat as far as McDonalds? Thanks for any info.

Mr Enternational
02-06-19, 07:09
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. And besides that the broad would not take her shoes off so my dick would not stay hard. I kept telling her and she said that has nothing to do with it. I said yes it does. I know my body.

She was trying very hard kept sucking (never understood this sucking with a condom shit my whole life because I feel zero when they do that). Changing postions, fingering herself, trying to fuck some more. Finally I gave up and told her thanks. I got dressed and headed to my stomping ground, Av. De Greiff!

I walked around and saw plenty of options. Then I decided to post up on the corner. One young chick came over to me then her friend came. They propositioned me and they were cute. But I told them they looked too young. One said she was 22 and the other was 23. I said well you look 15 and she looks 16. I told them I would probably take the chick that was standing 5 feet away to my left.

So they left me alone. I looked to the left and the girl looked back at me. I asked how much she wanted. She said 40K. Man this chick was just my type. And she was so beautiful. I said what about the room? She said it would be 54 total. I said okay, but I pay after. She said sure. So we went upstairs in the motel and I gave the lady 54K. She looked through her money but did not have the 40K change. I told her to just give it to the girl later.

We went to the room and I was like a pig in slop. This chick crossed the t's and dotted the I's for me. Total GFE. After I bust I asked her how much for all night. She thought about it and said 200K. This is the one time that I did not bring my phone, but I brought pen and paper. (Fuck you Murphy!) I wrote her number down and told her I would add her to whatsapp when I got to the room. I asked her what time she would come tomorrow and she said 3 pm. I said hell no. That is way too early. I will be busy then.

Then I looked at her nails and was like what the shit is this? Polish was coming off and stuff. (Of course I saw it earlier but I was just now calling her out on it.) And I am a stickler for that. Then I went over to my pants and pulled 20K out and gave it to her and told her to make sure she got her nails done before she came tomorrow. Do you know this chick started crying? That is the kind of shit that lets me know how much money is really worth around here. This chick cried because I gave her an extra 6 measly bucks to get her nails done.

Then we got to talking and she told me that her mom kicked her out the house when she was 14 because she was beautiful and her mom was jealous. I have heard stories of this kind of shit but what the fuck. She said she had 1 son. I asked how old he was. She said 17! I said what the fuck? How old are you? She said 32. Damn sure did not look it. She got pregnant when she was 14 and had the baby 2 weeks after she turned 15. He is back in Cucuta where she is from and she sends all her money to him. I told her that I was really amazed that she has not had any kids since.

I asked her if she did drugs and she said that she did not even drink alcohol. Only water. She mentioned something about Radual and remembering the details of the place from you guys I ran it by her. She said that is the place. I asked why she did not work over there. She said that she didn't like it. In true Wolf and Pollo Negro style I managed to find me a good one tonight. So if these sorry ass non-pros do not come through tomorrow I will definitely hit this chick up to come over and earn something.

P.S. Before I went out, I was talking to a Cupid chick from a while back and when I told her I was staying downtown she offered to come get me tomorrow and take me to find a better and safer place. If she only knew!

Chicafan
02-06-19, 07:25
Much too dangerous around here tonight. Anyone know who I could rent a Poblado condo from this time of night. I am about to check out of my $12 hotel down here because this is too scary for me.What's up with all the bullets flying, you wearing a flack vest?

PolloNegro
02-06-19, 08:45
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. And besides that the broad would not take her shoes off so my dick would not stay hard. I kept telling her and she said that has nothing to do with it. I said yes it does. I know my body.

She was trying very hard kept sucking (never understood this sucking with a condom shit my whole life because I feel zero when they do that). Changing postions, fingering herself, trying to fuck some more. Finally I gave up and told her thanks. I got dressed and headed to my stomping ground, Av. De Greiff!

I walked around and saw plenty of options. Then I decided to post up on the corner. One young chick came over to me then her friend came. They propositioned me and they were cute. But I told them they looked too young. One said she was 22 and the other was 23. I said well you look 15 and she looks 16. I told them I would probably take the chick that was standing 5 feet away to my left.

So they left me alone. I looked to the left and the girl looked back at me. I asked how much she wanted. She said 40K. Man this chick was just my type. And she was so beautiful. I said what about the room? She said it would be 54 total. I said okay, but I pay after. She said sure. So we went upstairs in the motel and I gave the lady 54K. She looked through her money but did not have the 40K change. I told her to just give it to the girl later.This is one reason I never leave Centro or not room, I have spent so much time there, that once I set up my room & I call one specific girl, they all flock to me like the Pied Piper. I haven't had to hunt in vera cruz since last April, and I have honestly banged over a 100 chics from that one block, at a minimum fee. Why would I go anywhere else? I have never banged any Vera Cruz chic in the love hotels, I always bring them back to my room. 2. You just found out why I always pre-schedule vera cruz chics & send money a day before I arrive, I want them to look how I would like them to look. I don't want to sit around a nail shop or beauty salon while a cute girl gets extra pretty, I send the money a day ahead. I gain a big advantage sending money ahead to girls I already know? If their friends see them with a new dress, new shoes, hair -do, pedicure, and manicure. Pollo negro is in town, everyone from vera cruz who has my number will hit me up. I have learned to not bang more than 21 chics in 7 days, my first trip I think I banged about 50 chics in 10 days, I had to call off from work for 2 days straight after returning to the US, I was absolutely exhausted. If your wallet is full and your heart has the stamina, you could make your dream come true in Centro. Pollo negro is out!

PolloNegro
02-06-19, 13:05
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. And besides that the broad would not take her shoes off so my dick would not stay hard. I kept telling her and she said that has nothing to do with it. I said yes it does. I know my body.

She was trying very hard kept sucking (never understood this sucking with a condom shit my whole life because I feel zero when they do that). Changing postions, fingering herself, trying to fuck some more. Finally I gave up and told her thanks. I got dressed and headed to my stomping ground, Av. De Greiff!

I walked around and saw plenty of options. Then I decided to post up on the corner. One young chick came over to me then her friend came. They propositioned me and they were cute. But I told them they looked too young. One said she was 22 and the other was 23. I said well you look 15 and she looks 16. I told them I would probably take the chick that was standing 5 feet away to my left..Is not girl friendly, I was lucky enough to bang all 5 of these girls at the same time, they only ask that I let them leave 2 at a time or one at the time. Pollo negro is out!

BlueCar
02-06-19, 16:22
We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. Ah, yes Maracaibo. I remember having to crouch to go under the bar and then under the little door. I wonder why there were trying to hide the rooms back then. They probably needed a license / permission that they didn't want to pay? And the rooms are indeed a mess. I sessioned with a tall girl who's face looked liked Jessica Albas but her body was a 6 (flabby skin, flabby little tits, skinny etc). I remember having to turn the little fan on too be / see it was so hot and the mattress was so old. I never went back there to session be / see it was so uncomfortable.

Turgid
02-06-19, 16:23
I do not understand why you guys not from the streets want to visit bad areas for pussy. Just does not seem worth it to me. If your not from the streets, people will spot a duck a mile away. Now, I know some will say do not think because you from the barrio you can go there. All, I will say to that being from the streets people in the game know how to move. There is a reason you do not read people from the streets getting caught up. Put another way assassins from commune 13 would turn around and walk away in fear if they had to walk into Cabrini Green or Rockwell Gardens at night with no hallway or lights on the elevator. If you not from the streets, why tempt fate. Your not built for that environment. Why chance it over some pussy.People from the streets who are better off now will not want to go back there. Can't understand people with resources who will choose to live there. Good to visit at safe times, never to stay.

John Clayton
02-06-19, 19:22
What's up with all the bullets flying, you wearing a flack vest?It's a "flak jacket". Derives from Fliegerabwehrkanone, which means antiaircraft gun. A flack is a PR spokesman. Maybe it derives from "flak", since they just pump out crap into the atmosphere.

Baudelairemod
02-06-19, 19:55
Much too dangerous around here tonight. Anyone know who I could rent a Poblado condo from this time of night. I am about to check out of my $12 hotel down here because this is too scary for me.Wait a second. Are you being sarcastic or genuine?

If you are being sarcastic then fair enough, if not I don't understand. The pictures you attached look perfectly fine and your following post seems to show you had / are having a great time.

Which one is it Mr. E?

Nyahbinghi83
02-06-19, 20:03
Wait a second. Are you being sarcastic or genuine?

If you are being sarcastic then fair enough, if not I don't understand. The pictures you attached look perfectly fine and your following post seems to show you had / are having a great time.

Which one is it Mr. E?He's definitely being sarcastic.

Wolf662
02-06-19, 20:25
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. I like the under the bar entrance better then Barra Ejectivas into the toilet entrance. LOL. Both their rooms suck compared to Conejitas in my opinion.

El Mechanico
02-06-19, 20:46
Is not girl friendly, Pollo negro is out!BS on that. I never had a second look when I was there and had girls over. You must have done something else to p*ss them off.

El Mechanico.

YippieKayay
02-06-19, 20:58
Is not girl friendly, I was lucky enough to bang all 5 of these girls at the same time, they only ask that I let them leave 2 at a time or one at the time. Pollo negro is out!I'm happy for you but I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole let alone do two at a time. Different strokes for different folks.

PolloNegro
02-06-19, 22:08
BS on that. I never had a second look when I was there and had girls over. You must have done something else to p*ss them off.

El Mechanico.They are very much girl friendly, sorry, for the typo. The pic was taken at hotel Botero.

Orgasmico
02-06-19, 23:29
I'm happy for you but I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole let alone do two at a time. Different strokes for different folks.One man's meat is another man's poison. There are lovely girls all over the city and even diamonds can be found in El Centro. I try to get down there once to twice a week. Since my gym has a facility there, it makes it easy to walk around and survey the area after a workout.

BlueCar
02-06-19, 23:58
I like the under the bar entrance better then Barra Ejectivas into the toilet entrance. LOL. Both their rooms suck compared to Conejitas in my opinion.Under the toilet? LOL I never sessioned at Barra Ejucativa but the entrance is worse than Maracaibo? Haha.

Combo
02-07-19, 01:43
I do not understand why you guys not from the streets want to visit bad areas for pussy. Just does not seem worth it to me. If your not from the streets, people will spot a duck a mile away. Now, I know some will say do not think because you from the barrio you can go there. All, I will say to that being from the streets people in the game know how to move. There is a reason you do not read people from the streets getting caught up. Put another way assassins from commune 13 would turn around and walk away in fear if they had to walk into Cabrini Green or Rockwell Gardens at night with no hallway or lights on the elevator. If you not from the streets, why tempt fate. Your not built for that environment. Why chance it over some pussy.I think this is pretty accurate. If you grew up in a rough area in the US (or Canada or wherever), you likely won't be too uncomfortable in Centro. However, if you grew up in a nice suburb, you very well might be terrified. And of course, many will be between these extremes.

Also, if you're black or Latino you won't stick out like a fair-skinned white guy. Though the locals will still be able to spot that you're not from there.

JjBee62
02-07-19, 02:21
I do not understand why you guys not from the streets want to visit bad areas for pussy. Just does not seem worth it to me. If your not from the streets, people will spot a duck a mile away. Now, I know some will say do not think because you from the barrio you can go there. All, I will say to that being from the streets people in the game know how to move. There is a reason you do not read people from the streets getting caught up. Put another way assassins from commune 13 would turn around and walk away in fear if they had to walk into Cabrini Green or Rockwell Gardens at night with no hallway or lights on the elevator. If you not from the streets, why tempt fate. Your not built for that environment. Why chance it over some pussy.I'm not from the streets. My high school was surrounded by corn fields. The closest McDonald's was 60 miles away. We didn't lock doors, or ever take keys out of the car. We didn't have crime. I never learned how the people from the streets move, but I learned how to walk through the pasture without stepping in cow shit.

I've still probably spent more time walking the streets of Medellin than most guys here. Not just the streets where the pussy is, the streets around the streets that are around the streets where the pussy is. You know those guys you see late at night, digging through the garbage? 1 takes metal, 1 takes glass, 1 takes plastic, 1 takes paper. I've seen where they take it all to cash it in. I've been down the streets where the stolen cars get taken and stripped. I've been down streets where gringos never go. There's no reason to go there. No reason, unless you're like me, just curious to see what's there.

I may not be built for that environment, but I'm comfortable in it and the environment never seems to mind me. After all, I'm just passing through.

However, I do notice that guys who walk with the "you don't want to fuck with me" swagger, are usually the guys who end up getting fucked with. When you're on somebody else's streets, it's not a good idea to act like you own them.

JjBee62
02-07-19, 02:25
Its been a few years since I been to Medellin, has New life change? Is the area around Carrera 43 change much? Are there any decent places to eat as far as McDonalds? Thanks for any info.Are you looking for decent places to eat, or are you looking for McDonald's?

New Life is still the same. The place next door is decent, but my favorite is around the corner at Delicias Naturales. Say Hello, to Juan if you go. There's some good places not far from McDonald's. Hacienda is good and a few other places just before the walking street hits Parque Bolivar.

JjBee62
02-07-19, 02:40
Can you, or somebody teach these girls they can type more than 3 words in a message? Girl sends me 3 complete sentences and it takes her 9 messages.

Of course the funny part is that she has to see me in secret because of her boyfriend.

The Tall Man
02-07-19, 03:05
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. And besides that the broad would not take her shoes off so my dick would not stay hard. I kept telling her and she said that has nothing to do with it. I said yes it does. I know my body.

She was trying very hard kept sucking (never understood this sucking with a condom shit my whole life because I feel zero when they do that). Changing postions, fingering herself, trying to fuck some more. Finally I gave up and told her thanks. I got dressed and headed to my stomping ground, Av. De Greiff!

I walked around and saw plenty of options. Then I decided to post up on the corner. One young chick came over to me then her friend came. They propositioned me and they were cute. But I told them they looked too young. One said she was 22 and the other was 23. I said well you look 15 and she looks 16. I told them I would probably take the chick that was standing 5 feet away to my left.

So they left me alone. I looked to the left and the girl looked back at me. I asked how much she wanted. She said 40K. Man this chick was just my type. And she was so beautiful. I said what about the room? She said it would be 54 total. I said okay, but I pay after. She said sure. So we went upstairs in the motel and I gave the lady 54K. She looked through her money but did not have the 40K change. I told her to just give it to the girl later.

We went to the room and I was like a pig in slop. This chick crossed the t's and dotted the I's for me. Total GFE. After I bust I asked her how much for all night. She thought about it and said 200K. This is the one time that I did not bring my phone, but I brought pen and paper. (Fuck you Murphy!) I wrote her number down and told her I would add her to whatsapp when I got to the room. I asked her what time she would come tomorrow and she said 3 pm. I said hell no. That is way too early. I will be busy then.

Then I looked at her nails and was like what the shit is this? Polish was coming off and stuff. (Of course I saw it earlier but I was just now calling her out on it.) And I am a stickler for that. Then I went over to my pants and pulled 20K out and gave it to her and told her to make sure she got her nails done before she came tomorrow. Do you know this chick started crying? That is the kind of shit that lets me know how much money is really worth around here. This chick cried because I gave her an extra 6 measly bucks to get her nails done.

Then we got to talking and she told me that her mom kicked her out the house when she was 14 because she was beautiful and her mom was jealous. I have heard stories of this kind of shit but what the fuck. She said she had 1 son. I asked how old he was. She said 17! I said what the fuck? How old are you? She said 32. Damn sure did not look it. She got pregnant when she was 14 and had the baby 2 weeks after she turned 15. He is back in Cucuta where she is from and she sends all her money to him. I told her that I was really amazed that she has not had any kids since.

I asked her if she did drugs and she said that she did not even drink alcohol. Only water. She mentioned something about Radual and remembering the details of the place from you guys I ran it by her. She said that is the place. I asked why she did not work over there. She said that she didn't like it. In true Wolf and Pollo Negro style I managed to find me a good one tonight. So if these sorry ass non-pros do not come through tomorrow I will definitely hit this chick up to come over and earn something.

P.S. Before I went out, I was talking to a Cupid chick from a while back and when I told her I was staying downtown she offered to come get me tomorrow and take me to find a better and safer place. If she only knew!Funny as shit but absolutely true and on point, jajajaja.

In those shit rooms behind the bar in Maracaibo the only detail that you forgot to mention was the floor to ceiling black mold growing on the walls, urrrrrrr we can't make this shit up, literally the worst rooms I have ever had sex in.

I also have heard all the stories from the girls in the Vera and Raudal areas, let me tell you those stories and more is the way life is down there, but I too love the dirt and grim and shady characters just hate those rooms SO I now always use one of those love motels which are right around the corner from there.

Still LMFAO!

The Tall Man.

Wolf662
02-07-19, 03:44
In those shit rooms behind the bar in Maracaibo the only detail that you forgot to mention was the floor to ceiling black mold growing on the walls, urrrrrrr we can't make this shit up, literally the worst rooms I have ever had sex in.I don't know, the one room I've been in at Maracaibo, I think the far right one wasn't that bad, small but shower and fan. I liked the one I used in Barra Ejectiva even less 'cause it was way too dark and way too hot. I actually faked a orgasm to get out of there it was so hot (the club was packed and heat rises) The worse one I have been in is the one to the right of the main little room at Yakuza, tiny, like a crappy mattress on a plywood board with no fan, no shower and paper thin walls with the other customers sitting just on the other side. That's before I found they allow free take out to the Botero for 45 k. LOL.

Balboa
02-07-19, 08:37
I went over to Maracaibo about 10 pm. As soon as I walked in the dude from behind the bar ran over to me while I was scanning the place. When he reached I told him that I was good then he left. I asked the chick to my right how much. She said 70K. I said 60K. She said okay. I went to the bar and had to pay 70K with the room included. We went through a 1/3 door under the bar and through another 1/3 door behind the bar. They must have had Simon Bolivar's mattress in that mf because that shit needed to be thrown out decades ago. It still had plenty of spring left but no fucking pad! The room was hot and the fan was making all kind of noise. And besides that the broad would not take her shoes off so my dick would not stay hard. I kept telling her and she said that has nothing to do with it. I said yes it does...
Haha, funny shoe story, cracks me up.

Nice el Centro catch!

I'm actually sitting in Club Maracaibo now, my buddy just went back with a chica, pretty hot.

I asked her to please take her shoes off for him, LOL.

Anyway, Veracruz is definitely a crap shoot, and regardless of what some guys may say, it's not for everyone.

I'd bet the guys with the best luck are those more we'll traveled, experienced, and speak the lingo.

Not to say that you can't find pussy without the above, it'll just be a different experience.

Especially in the daytime, anyone should be OK.

Watch yourself, and others, and at night time don't be a target.

Trust me, I've been hangin there for many years now.

I hit Veracruz yesterday in the afternoon and I found nothing good at all so I walked about.

A guy in the street took me over to a casa called Paris, and it pretty much sucked.

Soooo I thought screw it, and went over to New Life, though I vowed not to go back.

I got lucky, the last girl to present was very pretty, semi-flaka and sweet, Camila.

Had a pretty good time in the room.

Beautiful natural breasts, nice booty, sweet girl.

Paid 67 mil on the way out.

Nice.

Today, however, I got real lucky.

On Veracruz I spotted a thin girl with a nice booty, beautiful smile.

I approached her and she was actually really cool, bright and very friendly.

Had a couple beers together, she danced sexy for me, talked about her life, etc.

We eventually left the bar, she took me too another place she said had much better rooms, I'd been there before.

I paid the lady working the desk, and told her if we took longer that I'the pay up afterwards, didn't want to rush. I already knew we had great chemistry together.

The lady knew me, like I said, I'd been there before.

Absolutely fantastic time, total GFE, listening to music, making out like teenagers, LOL, etc, etc.

In the top of my Medellin experiences.

We spent about 2 hours together in the room in total.

I gave her 120 mil, she actually said it was too much.

I insisted.

To think that I almost ordered up a Vanee girl today for 250 mil. Sooooo glad that I decided against it!

Meeting up with her tomorrow for lunch, see what goes from there.

Like I said, and others as well, it's a crap shoot, but sometimes you get lucky.

Enjoy amigos.

Hasideas Tao
02-07-19, 15:00
In fact, there is a decent system of dedicated bike lanes in many parts of Medellin. In addition, on Sunday mornings as well as some nights, the city closes off the highway to cars. Only bikes and rollerbladers. I thoroughly enjoy taking people out to ride around. Of course there are always hazards you have to watch out for but I find riding in Medellin more casual than my years of experiences of riding in NYC.


I'm an avid cyclist and gave up my car for a bike. I live just outside NYC. Biking the streets is hazardous most everywhere though. I can't imagine navigating the streets of Medellin on bike, especially not knowing the city well. There doesn't seem to be many bike lanes. And motorists are completely crazy in Medellin as is the case in much of Latin America. It is dangerous enough for a pedestrian. Perhaps when I get there you can show me the way.

TheCarlAnthony
02-07-19, 16:16
Last time I was in Medellin I had a small hiccup that could of been disastrous. So I went absolutely crazy all weekend. Sunday night was our last balls to the wall night and we had a ton of COP to burn off. My flight out was Monday morning at 7 am and its Sunday at 11 am in Llares. My AirBN was about 2 streets away from Llares so we walked. I had a early 7 am flight which I did not take into consideration enough. My friend and I had a table at the Hacienda bar. He doesn't speak a lick of Spanish besides the word Hola. Haha. There was a younger guy walking around drumming up business in the streets that we saw each night we were in Llares. He works at the Hacienda bar. He told us there were girls there etc etc. As he walked us to the bar we negotiated prices for a table and hookah. We walked into the decently crowded bar and were ushered straight to the first table in the room with couches as soon as you walk in. PRIME location to see and be seen. Lots of girls there all dancing. Less guys than girls on this Sunday. My buddy negotiated all this in English for what came out to maybe $75 usd. The table, a large bottle of 1800 Silver and a hookah. Not too bad.

Immediately when we sat down the employees started scouring the room for women. They started pointed and telling them " you two, go now sit there". Then the same with a few more girls. My buddy and I sitting in the middle and 3 to 4 girls on each side of us. Very mob boss feeling hahaha. We took shot after shot and even handed a few to the homeless guys out the window. Laughing and partying being rubbed by these gorgeous women. Like celebrities. We had to peel ourselves away from the women as they were begging to come home with us at 200 k a piece. Knowing we had a flight to catch and it being 1:15 am we decided to just walk out and leave the girls with the bottle leftovers. Went into Gustos which was loaded with girls on a Sunday! All quoting 250 k cop to 300 k cop. We had banged so many this weekend we had no interest honestly. Just love that you can grope them when they dance all over you. We literally snuck out as we promised so many girls with "later" hahaha. We made it home safely but both passed out within seconds of hitting the room. My alarm goes off at 4:30 am. I luckily drunkenly set my alarm somehow Haha. Power nap was amazing. Though buzzed from all the tequila, my alertness was back in business mode. This is where it got ugly. I opened my phone and requested an Uber to get us at 4:50 am. That gave us 30 mins to get to the airport and and over an hour to get through the air port checks. We walked out the door and stood near our apt without our bags watching out for the uber.

Uber pulls up. Driver should be Carlos. Guy rolls down his window. I say Carlos? He rattles of something in Spanish. I say " airport right" he shakes his head no and waves his finger saying no no. Question Mark's surround my head. It says the uber has arrived on my app. The car was similar. No other cars insight. I step back and he says sorry no air port then pulls off. I'm thinking there must be another car pulling up any second plus it's getting too close for comfort. I wasnt wasted visually so it's not like he thought "I'm not letting these drunk guys in my car" if that's what your thinking. Ok now its 5 am. We need to go. Now!. Uber is failing me at finding another ride. Just searching searching. I Google taxi in Medellin. Call the number provided. Of coarse the lady that answers does not speak English. This is a nightmare. I'm using Google translate trying to say I am at blah blah and need to go to the air port but I could not understand her responses. But I did understand "blah munitos" so it gave me some hope that a vehicle was on it's way. While waiting I heard music playing which caught my attention. A police officer was standing on the corner leaning on his motorbike blasting reggaeton LOL at 5 am. Car comes around the corner. Yes! It's a taxi!. I flag him down. He rolls down the window and says Hi where you go? In broken English. I said Airport. He said oh sorry me no go to airport. Sorry. Then pulls off. My jaw dropped. Screw it. I walked over to the cop. I use Google translate saying "how can I get a taxi to the airport ". He says back into the app "no problem buddy" he smiles and whistles all the way down Cr. 10. It was like the whistle bounced off the walls all the way down the street. Maybe he was an Xmen. Within seconds a taxi came flying up the street. He translated to him I need a ride to the air port. The driver says only certain air port taxis will go to the air port. He gets on his phone and I guess is calling one. The sgt pulls up on his motorbike. I'm in the military so I could tell he was the bigger guy by his uniform differences and demeanor. The nice cop is explaining to him the situation. The sgt looks at me and says " you must learn our language buddy". I agreed and apologized and thanked them. He didn't want to smile but he eventually did when he saw I wasn't being a jerk and thanked him a few more times. Bam! Here comes our air port taxi!

Lesson learned have a exact plan setup on how your getting to the airport if you have a early flight like most of us do when trying to get back home in a timely fashion. Also, have a back up plan to the original plan. 2. not all the policia here are jerks and can be helpful if you approach the situation right. All the horror stories of cop shake downs are possibly true but in this case, they saved my whole experience. I'll be back next week and am not messing around with janky transportation. Take my advice. I'm not saying don't rely on uber because it's great there. I just wouldn't make it your only source when it's time to catch a flight early morning.

Turgid
02-07-19, 16:42
So I enter Adelitas and choose negra Erika from the not so enticing line up of 4. We enter the room and the session starts good enough, no kissing on the lips though but one gets used to that soon enough in Medellin. However, she gets straight into BBBJ which is the first for me this trip without a propina. She is pretty good at it and seems to enjoy herself. So I'm thinking this is going to be an awesome session. Ehhhhh wrong. During coitus she angles herself as much as possible to avoid a good pounding. She does this in every position. So I resort to doggy to try to make the best of a bad situation. Still she fidgets to avoid full thrust and I manually try to angle her body for maximum engagement; this goes on and it becomes a battle between us. During this confrontation she moves her hand towards the region of battle and I think to myself she's going to use her hand to restrict movement but surprisingly she is masturbating and she continues to do this moaning even while still trying to avoid full penetration. After a few minutes of this she lets out a squeal which signals orgasm. She then pulls my penis out of her and lies on the bed panting. I am like WTFFF! Heelllloooo! Who is the paying customer here? I realize I have to count my losses here, clean up, robe and on to reception. That experience was a first for me. I really felt used but did not complain, paid the COP48K for 1/2 hour and checked out another casa where I had a more fulfilling engagement.

The Tall Man
02-07-19, 20:23
To think that I almost ordered up a Vanee girl today for 250 mil. Sooooo glad that I decided against it!
Enjoy amigos.From your lips to gods ears, that's stretching the budget for sure. I too have spent more time in and around the Vera and Raudal then I care to admit, I have found that sometimes when you don't see something you like simply leave and take another spin around 30 or 40 minutes later and wham something presents itself, sometimes not but you never know.

And thanks for treating the chicas with some kindness, that is my style also and although some experiences turn out poor but some are just incredible, like the 2 or 3 that I can call any time or day when I need to bust a load, jajajaja and what for 80 mill mas o menos! Life is good.

The Tall Man.

The Tall Man
02-07-19, 20:27
I don't know, the one room I've been in at Maracaibo, I think the far right one wasn't that bad, small but shower and fan. I liked the one I used in Barra Ejectiva even less 'cause it was way too dark and way too hot. I actually faked a orgasm to get out of there it was so hot (the club was packed and heat rises) The worse one I have been in is the one to the right of the main little room at Yakuza, tiny, like a crappy mattress on a plywood board with no fan, no shower and paper thin walls with the other customers sitting just on the other side. That's before I found they allow free take out to the Botero for 45 k. LOL.Jajajaja, for some reason at Maracaibo the 3 or 4 times that I had to do "the crawl" under the bar and into the rat hole to get into the what, 3 or 4 small rooms behind the bar area, I always got the middle room, my buddy always gets the room to the right, the very last time I was leaving the room in the middle I briefly looked into the room on the right and yes perhaps a bit more cleaner BUT not by much.

The Tall Man.

Mr Enternational
02-07-19, 20:40
A guy in the street took me over to a casa called Paris, and it pretty much sucked.A couple of years ago we were sitting on the sofa and I took my phone out to send a message or something and that lady put me out. She didn't want to hear no buts.

John Gault
02-08-19, 00:57
I don't know, the one room I've been in at Maracaibo, I think the far right one wasn't that bad, small but shower and fan. I liked the one I used in Barra Ejectiva even less 'cause it was way too dark and way too hot. I actually faked a orgasm to get out of there it was so hot (the club was packed and heat rises) The worse one I have been in is the one to the right of the main little room at Yakuza, tiny, like a crappy mattress on a plywood board with no fan, no shower and paper thin walls with the other customers sitting just on the other side. That's before I found they allow free take out to the Botero for 45 k. LOL.When you say" free take out to the Botero" Do you mean Hotel Botero? I called there the other day, and was told they were not Chica friendly.

Since I posted this I might as well add a little info. The cost of the Metro is now 2550 K. From 5 PM to 6 PM it is sardine time. I rode it last night, and it was a battle to keep from being pushed, and pulled the whole trip. I imagine it is just as bad in the morning.

Orgasmico
02-08-19, 02:20
A guy in the street took me over to a casa called Paris, and it pretty much sucked.

Soooo I thought screw it, and went over to New Life, though I vowed not to go back.

I stopped into Paris the other day. They told me they only had 3 girls so I just left without the viewing. I used to have one there that I started with at the spot across the street before it closed. I was surprised when I saw her in Paris late last year. I would solely use her for BBBJCIM and she never asked for a propina but I always gave her 10 k and she was happy. I'll probably stop back in there at some point to see if she is still there.

Orgasmico
02-08-19, 02:30
So I enter Adelitas and choose negra Erika from the not so enticing line up of 4. We enter the room and the session starts good enough, no kissing on the lips though but one gets used to that soon enough in Medellin. However, she gets straight into BBBJ which is the first for me this trip without a propina. She is pretty good at it and seems to enjoy herself. So I'm thinking this is going to be an awesome session. Ehhhhh wrong. I wanted to smash the babe that collects the money but she said she was off limits and the dude there told me it was his wife. I told him he was a lucky mofo. I've only been there once but it was a good time. It's always the luck of the draw.

Mr Enternational
02-08-19, 02:43
Since I posted this I might as well add a little info. The cost of the Metro is now 2550 K. From 5 PM to 6 PM it is sardine time. I rode it last night, and it was a battle to keep from being pushed, and pulled the whole trip. I imagine it is just as bad in the morning.I am in it right now. I got certified today. I had to wait in that damn line 1 hour, but I am golden now. The lady said you have up to 3 years between uses before you lose the money you put on it. Just need your passport to sign up.

Orgasmico
02-08-19, 03:18
In fact, there is a decent system of dedicated bike lanes in many parts of Medellin. In addition, on Sunday mornings as well as some nights, the city closes off the highway to cars. Biking around the city isn't bad and most of the malls have parking for bikes which is key because of the theft rate. They extended the bike path recently all the way to El Poblado which is nice. Ciclovia is good as you alluded to as well. The bikes that people rent for commuting seem to work well also. I mostly bike or Uber. I occasionally use the metro but like someone said it gets uncomfortable depending on the hour. With Uber being so cheap, it is often much more convenient for me to use Uber than the train or buses. I've thought about buying a car or motorcycle because I have a parking space, but Uber and public transportation is so inexpensive it doesn't seem to make sense right now.

Eb1989
02-08-19, 03:54
Has anyone met any of Vane Restrepo's girls? If so, how was the experience?

ThadMax
02-08-19, 04:04
Just a FYI for the good brothers here. I was recently at La Isla until about 3 am on a weekend night. And caught an Uber home to my apartment in Poblado. We were stopped by a police checkpoint and I was asked to step outside of the car. And was thoroughly searched and shaken down. It was a pretty serious scene and the cops were not playing around. I was worried that might try to plant something but they didn't. They were genuinely looking for drugs. I did not have anything on me and they asked what I was doing out so late. I simply said I was out at a club. And the cop then let me go. Had I had any type of drugs on me. I'm certain I would've been in serious trouble and locked up. Just a warning to be careful and do not do anything illegal whatsoever. This is even more imperative as a foreigner that you adhere to local customs / laws and be cautious when out late at night.

Stay safe and have fun.

Wolf662
02-08-19, 04:29
When you say" free take out to the Botero" Do you mean Hotel Botero? I called there the other day, and was told they were not Chica friendly.

Since I posted this I might as well add a little info. The cost of the Metro is now 2550 K. From 5 PM to 6 PM it is sardine time. I rode it last night, and it was a battle to keep from being pushed, and pulled the whole trip. I imagine it is just as bad in the morning.The Hotel Botero has been chica friendly for me if you rent a room for 2 unless they changed polices recently.

Turgid
02-08-19, 15:41
......................Soooo I thought screw it, and went over to New Life, though I vowed not to go back.

I got lucky, the last girl to present was very pretty, semi-flaka and sweet, Camila.

Had a pretty good time in the room.

Beautiful natural breasts, nice booty, sweet girl.

....................Like you I continually vow not to return to New Life but I always do mainly because of the large line up and a notch better facilities than other Centro casas. I did a Camila at New Life recently. She was a mulatta with an ok body and ostensibly sweet but during coitus she kept holding the condom and insisted on doing so when I asked her to stop so aborted the session. The good thing about hobbying in Medellin is that you can abort sessions with no pain in the pockets unless you visit La Isla or Loutrons.

Orgasmico
02-08-19, 17:05
The good thing about hobbying in Medellin is that you can abort sessions with no pain in the pockets .Do you guys ever complain to the administration after a bad session?

Manizales911
02-08-19, 17:16
That's before I found they allow free take out to the Botero for 45 k. LOL.45 K is free? Since when is 45 K free?

Wolf662
02-08-19, 19:49
45 K is free? Since when is 45 K free?At most places you have to pay the 45 k or whatever PLUS a fee for the girl to exit. Yakuza is 45 k on site or to take the girl back to your room. That is free take out.

ILuvThePussy
02-08-19, 19:53
Has anyone met any of Vane Restrepo's girls? If so, how was the experience?Overpriced. Most of the girls she offers are already on Facebook for much cheaper.

YippieKayay
02-08-19, 21:36
Just a FYI for the good brothers here. I was recently at La Isla until about 3 am on a weekend night. And caught an Uber home to my apartment in Poblado. We were stopped by a police checkpoint and I was asked to step outside of the car. And was thoroughly searched and shaken down. It was a pretty serious scene and the cops were not playing around. I was worried that might try to plant something but they didn't. They were genuinely looking for drugs. I did not have anything on me and they asked what I was doing out so late. I simply said I was out at a club. And the cop then let me go. Had I had any type of drugs on me. I'm certain I would've been in serious trouble and locked up. Just a warning to be careful and do not do anything illegal whatsoever. This is even more imperative as a foreigner that you adhere to local customs / laws and be cautious when out late at night.

Stay safe and have fun.I've been shaken down worse in Medellin in broad daylight. I was asked repeatedly if the cellphone on me was really mine. In another incident they straight up asked for 5 mil pesos before letting me go.

Welcome to Colombia.

Queens35
02-09-19, 00:29
45 K is free? Since when is 45 K free?I believe that 45 K is the fee for the session, whether you session on site, and if you take them to Botero, there is no add'l charge.

TupacAndP
02-09-19, 00:36
Has anyone met any of Vane Restrepo's girls? If so, how was the experience?Almost all of the girls we ordered from Vane did not look like the picture posted in the WhatsApp group. Those filters will fool you.

TheCarlAnthony
02-09-19, 00:56
Overpriced. Most of the girls she offers are already on Facebook for much cheaper.Honestly Vane's girls is just a label at this point. She is the closest thing to a pimp you will find. Yet she is like a virtual reality online pimp. These girls just let her network for them but they are not exclusive to her. 90% can be found on Facebbook, Photoprepagos, Milleroticos or in Gustos / Hacienda. She just offers a direct connection but at a premium. I just feel better saving 100 k and getting them myself. All she does is text them on WhatsApp and sends the girl the address. You pay a premium. I've been banging one off of Fb. Who Vane promotes heavy. Her fb name is Karina Hernandez, and Jennifer Rojas, Daniella Guzman just to name a few that I've banged for less than the Vane network advertised. As a matter of fact I'll post a few of my leads that I know are easy Fb targets since everyone asks yet no one else will share theirs LOL "it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none" -Snoop Dogg LOL.

TheCarlAnthony
02-09-19, 01:47
Here you go fellas!

Here's my Medellin black book. Every single one of these girls can be found on Fb DMs, Gustos, or a strip club in MDE. This is a screen shot of my phone book filtered by code +57. Add them to your WhatsApp and look at their profile pictures. If you like them, shoot your shot.

We all feel like we have this personalized lump of gold in our phonebook when in reality we are banging the same chicks. I see guys that would rather make a corny ass comment about some newbie spelling Columbia (Colombia) wrong rather than progressing this site to its greatest value. Helping others have sex internationally!! We have no obligation to a single chick there besides laying pipe. I've learned so much from these pages that I feel obligated to give back in a way I don't see anyone else being willing to do. So that's my new way of contributing here. PM me if you need insight on one these chicks if you're able to pluck a few. Or if you struggle to match the name or number up to a Facebook account hit me up. Most of them have a weird names saved in my phone. I ain't explaining what all the odd words mean LOL. Just know if you see a number in her name. That's what she charges. Not all have the price unless they were blatant upfront when I got their number. Others you'll have to ask them yourselves. A few might cuss you the hell out because they are not pros But that will be very rare. 93% are accepting cash for ash. LOL have fun, don't tell them I sent you, and most of all, give back bigger than what you were given. Itll come back10 fold somehow. Remember Bro code! We are a wolf pack, they are the sheep. Let's work together and stop getting so attached to these women who litterally had a 5 or 6 well traveled penises in her mouth with the last being 20 minutes before she kissed you during your oh so desired "GFE".

BanskoBoy2019
02-09-19, 01:54
I've been shaken down worse in Medellin in broad daylight. I was asked repeatedly if the cellphone on me was really mine. In another incident they straight up asked for 5 mil pesos before letting me go.

Welcome to Colombia.One Sunday evening I took a taxi to Periodista where I had been to before many times. Usually lots of people smoke and drinking by everyone there. Got there and bought a large beer. There were very few people there that particular night. While enjoying my beer a policeman walked up to me and told me that it was a public park and that there are laws against drinking in a park. I thought he was going to shake me down because I've been there and have seen all that goes on. Not wanting any trouble I told him that I was sorry and didn't know it wasn't allowed. I then asked if I could pour it out in the flower box. He looked at me like I was nuts and said no mister, finish it please, just don't buy another one!

I've told that story at home a the to cops here too in order to co vey what was to me a positive experience ce a the what seemed to be the Colombian attitude. Maybe I was lucky. I'm 67 very tall and definitely a gel go standout but maybe my decent Spanish and calm attitude helped.

TheCarlAnthony
02-09-19, 01:55
[Photo(s) deleted by Admin]As promised.

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TheCarlAnthony
02-09-19, 01:58
As promised continued.

Eb1989
02-09-19, 03:05
Overpriced. Most of the girls she offers are already on Facebook for much cheaper.Got any FB names? If so how much would they be on FB? The ones she sent me were all 200,000-300,000 and they range from 400,000-600,000 TLN.

Mr Enternational
02-09-19, 07:01
I met a chick on Tinder yesterday. She is a nurse. I forgot how it came up, but she told me she is not a hooker. I said well it is obvious that you are a professional woman by your pictures. All the hookers are half-dressed. When she got off work today we went down to La 70. The place we ate had a big American group come in. It seemed one guy was a guide. He had a girl with him that was an obvious hooker (unless he made her dress that way on purpose.) Funny thing was he obviously did not speak Spanish. He was yelling at the staff about expecting his group to have a good time. Then he started yelling at one waiter repeating did you call me loca? I heard loca. I was sitting right next to where the waiter was standing and he said nothing of the such. And evidently if he did say loca he would not have been talking about him, because it is the feminine form of the word.

We left there and went to a bar. Then we caught an Uber to my hotel downtown. While in the Uber she got a call. They needed her to come in to work. Huh? She has another job at a bar in Parque Lleras where they call her when they need her. Now this chick has been up since 5:30 am and now has to go to some bar. Like she told me, she has responsibilities to take care of. So the Uber dropped us off at my hotel. She ran up to use the toilet then we called another Uber to take her to her house and afterwards to Parque Lleras. She wanted me to come too.

This chick lives all the fuck the way up in those hills. I told her that I wanted her to cook for me next time, but I will be damned if I drag my ass up there again. Narrow ass steep roads with buses stopping in front of us letting people off. No sir! I will keep to the valley. At the end of that 17,000 peso uber ride I had to tip that guy 5,000 pesos on general principle.

We went over to her bar and it was pretty big. I ordered a mojito that was 25K! Yeah I see why I stay downtown. Lunch in my hotel today was only 9.5K. I think I see why those Gusto Girls are charging the way they do after seeing these drink prices. Speaking of which...

Mr Enternational
02-09-19, 07:22
Well since I am over this way I might as well check out Gusto's! I drank my drink and kissed my girl goodbye and left. I saw some decent chicks trolling the park. I sat in the park in front of Gusto's for a while. Some guy came up asking if I speak English. I started speaking to him in Portuguese and he walked off. One of the Gusto's guys walked past me and I asked him how much it cost to go in. He said 15K. I told him that I would go in soon.

Eventually I headed up. Paid my 15K and got into the elevator with a guy I spoke to that said he was from Ecuador. He was speaking in English and I was speaking in Spanish. I got off the elevator and went right to the bar and asked for a menu. Got damn! 35K for a mojito in here? That is the same price as my hotel for 1 day!

Oh I forgot. While I was paying to get in some brothers behind me were asking if they had to pay the cover charge if they planned on getting a table and bottles. The guy told them yes. So the bartender made my mojito and on the top she put one shot of liquor. I stirred it up and tasted it. She asked how it was. I told her there was no liquor in it. She said she put one shot at the bottom, one shot in the middle, and finished with one shot at the top. I said oh, okay.

I stood right there in front of the bar where everyone gets off the elevator. At first there were really only chicks inside. They were all sitting around the bar. Then foreign (Black American for the most part) guys started pouring in. The chicks were pretty top notch. Well since I came all this way I better ask some damn prices. There was a girl sitting next to me. She reminds me of a chick in Thailand that I give $30 to for all night. I asked her how much she wanted and she said US$200. I said wait a minute. Tell me in Spanish. She said it in Spanish. Shiiiiieeeeeettttt.

I told old dude from Ecuador that she said $200. He said he was not paying more than $100. Then I told him about places downtown. I gave him a couple of those casa cards that I had collected earlier in the day. I also wrote down the address of my favorite casa for him. I finished my drink and went to the toilet. When I came out I had to double check. So I asked an ugly chick that was with 2 more girls how much she wanted. That bih told me US$300! I started fucking laughing. Say what now? Then she said US$200. Shiiiiieeeeeettttt. I walked right to the elevator and left.

When I got out front into the park there were some more track stars coming around. I asked one how much she wanted. She said 300,000 pesos Colombianos. I started laughing at that. She asked why I was laughing. I said because I don't stay around here; I stay downtown!

I called an Uber to take me back downtown. I told him how expensive Parque Lleras is. He agreed. When we got to my hotel he asked me if I knew about the strip clubs that are on the street. I said dude I know everything down here. These clubs, Conejita's, Degreiff, Vera Cruz. He said oh you are straight then. I said exactly. And now that I am finished this report I am out to go hit me a chick in Conejita's or either a street girl. I have to get up at 5 am to head to Barranquilla and it is already 1:22!

AllTooHorny
02-09-19, 10:02
Hello fellow mongers,

I was wondering if one of you can educate me on the GFE situation in Colombia, especially in Bogotá and Medellín. I've never been to Colombia and am not much of a brothel or incall man. I'd appreciate any pointers on finding non-pros or semi-pros, general advice on asking for GFE in Colombia, or contact information for specific girls who might want to practice their English or need some cash. Please PM.

Cheers,

ATH.

CeeJay1
02-09-19, 13:18
The Hotel Botero has been chica friendly for me if you rent a room for 2 unless they changed polices recently.How is it to book the Hotel Botero without a reservation? Are there rooms generally available on a walk in basis? Are they still around 25 usd?

Orgasmico
02-09-19, 14:06
Spent a little time downtown yesterday. Had a pretty decent day. Stoped by a casa to get that edge off and had a good session. BBBJ and regular sex with a cutie with a big bootie. Got the digits cause she seems real cool and affectionate. Now that the edge was gone, I went to get something to eat and semi flirted with one of the waitresses that I normally see there. When I was leaving she said she would like to maintain contact with me because she finds me interesting. Hmm imagine that? She studies and works and has no kids so I got the digits and we were texting last night. She works in Centro but lives all the way out in Itagui.

I cracked on another chic while she was working at a store downtown but didn't get the digits. I think in time it might happen though. I walked around and talked to some of the working girls as well. Ran into a lot of Venezolanas. Did all the usual Raudal, Veracruz as well as some lesser known spots. Most of the street talent didn't do much for me, which is why I made that initial casa run so I could think more with the big head. The casa and strip club chicas were definitely more my speed. I had fun at some of the strip clubs as chicas were grabbing my dick or ass LOL. Just doing walk throughs but I'll get back there at some point.

JjBee62
02-09-19, 14:49
Here you go fellas!

Here's my Medellin black book. Every single one of these girls can be found on Fb DMs, Gustos, or a strip club in MDE. This is a screen shot of my phone book filtered by code +57. Add them to your WhatsApp and look at their profile pictures. If you like them, shoot your shot.

We all feel like we have this personalized lump of gold in our phonebook when in reality we are banging the same chicks. I see guys that would rather make a corny ass comment about some newbie spelling Columbia (Colombia) wrong rather than progressing this site to its greatest value. Helping others have sex internationally!! We have no obligation to a single chick there besides laying pipe. I've learned so much from these pages that I feel obligated to give back in a way I don't see anyone else being willing to do. So that's my new way of contributing here. PM me if you need insight on one these chicks if you're able to pluck a few. Or if you struggle to match the name or number up to a Facebook account hit me up. Most of them have a weird names saved in my phone..I understand what you tried to do, which fortunately got blocked by Admin. Now let me explain why your good intentions are a bad idea.

For every person who posts on the forum, there are 100 or more, who never post. Many of them will never travel anywhere. What thrills they get come from reading other people's adventures. What happens when this group of people gets ahold of personal contact info for some woman? Several guys will contact her. Some will just be friendly and chat. Some will waste the woman's time by setting up a meeting, when they have never been to Colombia. Some will beg for photos and videos. Some will harass and threaten the woman. Some might even go full stalker mode, get enough info and then try to start trouble with her friends and family. All of this makes it more difficult for an actual monger to set something up with her.

There are a lot of great guys on this forum. I've had a beer, or a Coke with a bunch of them. There are also some complete nutjobs. If a nice guy wants some help, I'm happy to steer him in the right direction. If I know the guy, I'll even hook him up with someone I think is a good match. However, I learned the hard way about just passing out a girl's info to the wrong person. Next thing I know, the girl is burning up my WhatsApp telling me how rude and insulting the guy was.

Now to bring you back to reality. Other than a few casa girls and a few streetwalkers, very seldom are these women seeing 5 or 6 per day. Even if they only get 30 k a pop, that's estrato 3 or 4 income. If she's pulling 100 k a session, she's estrato 6. At 200 k, she can work 3 years and retire. Also, I'm not sure where you're getting your girls, but you might want to be more selective if you're getting most of them 20 minutes after their last session. Except for the casas, and 1 or 2 exceptions, almost every girl, I was her first (and usually last) customer of the day.

I'm going to opt out of your wolf pack. I'm not especially attached to any of the women, although I maintain contact with a few gems. I'm just not into treating people like a napkin, use them once and toss them in the garbage. Treating the girls like people pays dividends. They all have friends and if you treat everyone right, most are happy to make the introductions.

Turgid
02-09-19, 16:54
Do you guys ever complain to the administration after a bad session?I suspect that in Colombia admin takes complaints seriously unlike other destinations. I would not lodge a complaint for holding a condom or otherwise trying to avoid full penetration. Actually I would be very loathe to lodging a complaint at all as I do not wish to cause a wg to lose her job considering she may have kids to support and also she may just not like me but otherwise provides good service to other customers as Camila seemed to have done.
Coincidentally, yesterday in one of my casa visits a blanca gave me poor service and after the guy at reception asked me how was the service. I did not want to lie and tell him it was good but I also really did not want to tell him it was bad so I did not answer. He repeated the question and I still did not answer and he appeared pissed. After I paid I told him thank you for everything and left. Where I would really like to lodge complaints are at FKKs in Germany where the cost is much higher, but they don't take complaints seriously there.

Wolf662
02-09-19, 17:59
How is it to book the Hotel Botero without a reservation? Are there rooms generally available on a walk in basis? Are they still around 25 usd?No sure how booked they get, walk in might just be up to luck if they are busy or not, and no, they raised their prices to $35 a night for some reason, I always book them thru Hotels.com but they are on Booking.com also.

YippieKayay
02-09-19, 22:45
Well since I am over this way I might as well check out Gusto's! I drank my drink and kissed my girl goodbye and left. I saw some decent chicks trolling the park. I sat in the park in front of Gusto's for a while. Some guy came up asking if I speak English. I started speaking to him in Portuguese and he walked off.True story. I've seen Brazilian tourists in Colombia. Locals get annoyed at Portuguese. Hahahaha.

Mr Enternational
02-10-19, 00:28
Now to bring you back to reality. Other than a few casa girls and a few streetwalkers, very seldom are these women seeing 5 or 6 per day. Even if they only get 30 k a pop, that's estrato 3 or 4 income. If she's pulling 100 k a session, she's estrato 6. At 200 k, she can work 3 years and retire. Also, I'm not sure where you're getting your girls, but you might want to be more selective if you're getting most of them 20 minutes after their last session. Except for the casas, and 1 or 2 exceptions, almost every girl, I was her first (and usually last) customer of the day.Dude you pretty much just wrote my report. Yesterday I was in my favorite casa about 4:30 pm. I had never seen this many people there before. There were at least 20 girls. The downside is that there were plenty of guys too.

Before going there we stopped into chicaspuntocom and it must have been 30 girls that came out for the presentation. Whenever we thought it had stopped, more girls would come out. We didn't take one so we were charged the 2K presentation fee. And like you said, whenever I go there I see no other guys or 1 other guy. At New Life some chicks may be able to get customers back to back like that, but at the other casas, definitely not.

So me and my buddy go sit at a table and there is a girl sitting next to the seat I take. I started talking to her and took a liking to her. I asked her how many customers she had today and she said 0. I asked how much she usually makes everyday and she said 50K or 100K. I said but that is only 1 or 2 customers. She said sometimes it is even 0.

She kept asking what I was going to do. I said what do you mean? What is this place for? She said well a lot of guys come in to just drink or sit and look. I told her there are plenty of pictures on the internet if I only wanted to look.

The casa is open from 2 pm to 7 pm. She gets up every weekday morning at 4:30 to be at her job at the factory at 6 am. There she runs the machine that makes clothes. She showed me pictures of the clothes. They were kids name brand sportswear. Nike and stuff. No idea whether it is bootleg or real. But she makes 800K per month at the factory. She finishes work at 2 pm and sometimes comes to the casa to get 1 or 2 guys then goes home.

Yesterday I was her only customer. Super GFE. When we finished she gave me her whatsapp and she put her regular clothes on and said she was going home.

P. S. She was showing me pictures in her phone and a few made me think of the guy the other day that was looking for Instagram models. I started to ask her to send me those pictures too. I asked her who the fuck is that on those pictures, because it looked nothing like she looked in front of me. She said that is me. It is just the MAKEUP that I had on for the photos that makes me look like that. Exactly what I said the other day: surgery, makeup, camera tricks is what makes your Instagram model.

The Tall Man
02-10-19, 03:02
Well since I am over this way I might as well check out Gusto's! I drank my drink and kissed my girl goodbye and left. I saw some decent chicks trolling the park. I sat in the park in front of Gusto's for a while. Some guy came up asking if I speak English. I started speaking to him in Portuguese and he walked off. One of the Gusto's guys walked past me and I asked him how much it cost to go in. He said 15K. I told him that I would go in soon.

Eventually I headed up. Paid my 15K and got into the elevator with a guy I spoke to that said he was from Ecuador. He was speaking in English and I was speaking in Spanish. I got off the elevator and went right to the bar and asked for a menu. Got damn! 35K for a mojito in here? That is the same price as my hotel for 1 day!

Oh I forgot. While I was paying to get in some brothers behind me were asking if they had to pay the cover charge if they planned on getting a table and bottles. The guy told them yes. So the bartender made my mojito and on the top she put one shot of liquor. I stirred it up and tasted it. She asked how it was. I told her there was no liquor in it. She said she put one shot at the bottom, one shot in the middle, and finished with one shot at the top. I said oh, okay.

I stood right there in front of the bar where everyone gets off the elevator. At first there were really only chicks inside. They were all sitting around the bar. Then foreign (Black American for the most part) guys started pouring in. The chicks were pretty top notch. Well since I came all this way I better ask some damn prices. There was a girl sitting next to me. She reminds me of a chick in Thailand that I give $30 to for all night. I asked her how much she wanted and she said US$200. I said wait a minute. Tell me in Spanish. She said it in Spanish. Shiiiiieeeeeettttt.

I told old dude from Ecuador that she said $200. He said he was not paying more than $100. Then I told him about places downtown. I gave him a couple of those casa cards that I had collected earlier in the day. I also wrote down the address of my favorite casa for him. I finished my drink and went to the toilet. When I came out I had to double check. So I asked an ugly chick that was with 2 more girls how much she wanted. That bih told me US$300! I started fucking laughing. Say what now? Then she said US$200. Shiiiiieeeeeettttt. I walked right to the elevator and left.

When I got out front into the park there were some more track stars coming around. I asked one how much she wanted. She said 300,000 pesos Colombianos. I started laughing at that. She asked why I was laughing. I said because I don't stay around here; I stay downtown!

I called an Uber to take me back downtown. I told him how expensive Parque Lleras is. He agreed. When we got to my hotel he asked me if I knew about the strip clubs that are on the street. I said dude I know everything down here. These clubs, Conejita's, Degreiff, Vera Cruz. He said oh you are straight then. I said exactly. And now that I am finished this report I am out to go hit me a chick in Conejita's or either a street girl. I have to get up at 5 am to head to Barranquilla and it is already 1:22!Spot on, even though I can I will never pay anything over 200 mil max, that is crazy pricing, even $200 USD is 600 mil, hell that is what I spend on girls in 2 or 3 weeks! And I get more pussy than my dick handle or needs. WTF!

When I first started coming to Medellin 9 years ago it was not like this, I stayed in Poblado and partied in Parque Lleras, damn this shows what stupid guys cause. I only go there maybe once a year and only if it is a special event for a friend otherwise I am so done with that tourist shit hole.

I too stick with centro.

The Tall Man.

YippieKayay
02-10-19, 03:10
I only go there maybe once a year and only if it is a special event for a friend otherwise I am so done with that tourist shit hole.As I've posted before you can get much less the same night from Club Gusto when you talk to them outside. 200 k is completely doable in parque lleras. Just don't be a stupid extranjero and agree to 200 USD. Also don't laugh at them and pretend you're better. Just ask for her number.

Then you can msg her later THE SAME NIGHT and ask if she's up for 200 k short time or whatever. They'll usually jump at the opportunity. She just can't do that shit inside with her friends / co-workers right next to her.

The Tall Man
02-10-19, 03:13
P. S. She was showing me pictures in her phone and a few made me think of the guy the other day that was looking for Instagram models. I started to ask her to send me those pictures too. I asked her who the fuck is that on those pictures, because it looked nothing like she looked in front of me. She said that is me. It is just the MAKEUP that I had on for the photos that makes me look like that. Exactly what I said the other day: surgery, makeup, camera tricks is what makes your Instagram model.More times than I can count I have met a girl at maybe lets say a friends house and they were going to swim or something so no make up, then fast forward 4 or 5 hours later I revisit the house again as there is a party and WHAM I see the same girl but with a nice dress and hair done and make up and damn my eyes just popped from the beauty that has transformed itself before me.

Combine this with good photos, some professional, great lighting and camera angles, perhaps a bit of photo-shopping and WHAM there is your dime Instagram model.

The Tall Man.

Orgasmico
02-10-19, 03:21
As I've posted before you can get much less the same night from Club Gusto when you talk to them outside. 200 k is completely doable in parque lleras. Just don't be a stupid extranjero and agree to 200 USD. Also don't laugh at them and pretend you're better. Just ask for her number.

Then you can msg her later THE SAME NIGHT and ask if she's up for 200 k short time or whatever. They'll usually jump at the opportunity. She just can't do that shit inside with her friends / co-workers right next to her.I've never talked numbers in El Poblado but I get the same impression. Everything is negotiable. A lot depends on the vibe.

Tasss
02-10-19, 03:33
I know some guys don't like mega-reports but imo it's easier to keep things in context.

Another monger website focused on Colombia stole my first MDE mega-report. The admin copy / pasted the report using my account and then banned me from logging in so I can't delete the report. If you see this report on a website other than ISG, be aware that it's copy / pasted there without my permission.

This is my second trip to Medellin. The first MDE trip (search my December 2017 report), gave me a lot of good newbie experience in what MDE has to offer, and it also allowed me to filter out some unproductive activities and explore some new ones. I thought I already knew a lot between my two prior trips to CO, but I still learned a crap ton this time.

A few things to keep in mind when you're reading this. First I don't like doing it in an unfamiliar hotel or strip club and I want to take her back for the higher level of comfort. This is one major reason why I went with the Mansion in '17, in addition to that place being really safe. Bringing girls back does come with its own issues from time to time, mainly tardiness and the risk of theft in your room. As taking girls back to your hotel is the norm in the Philippines, I've had some experience prepping my room for strangers.

For this trip I booked a BnB in Laureles-Estadio, which gives you easy access to the Centro scene via a 5 minute Uber ride (Uber cost about 6-10 k depending on the time of day and taxi is 7-10 k depending on how confused the driver is). After having been to Santa Fe in Bogota I've gotten more confidence in dealing with street girls (you can read that report too in Aug '18). Every girl has been more or less forgiving of my lack of Spanish with the majority being very much so. Generically speaking, if she's giving you a hard time with your Spanish, she's not going to give you good service anyway.

I could not find a previous report that answers the question whether the Centro girls will take a taxi with you as far as Laureles so I feel this is worth exploring. FB is another source I used in my first trip. FB girls will come to you, doesn't matter where you live, as long as it's not a bad neighborhood. So staying in the more mid-tier Laureles made no difference. Overall not using the Mansion, while I don't get the truly interesting and helpful community there, does save me a lot of money. My BNB is twice as large and half the price of a Mansion room. If you go the same route as me with an Airbnb and bringing girls back, please read the host's policy about girls. Some hosts are very aware that guests may bring back hookers and have explicit policies against it. This Airbnb didn't have a lot of amenities lying around, which is good because anything that belongs to the host that goes missing is your responsibility. Last time in Bogota, a girl stole the host's hairdryer and my wooden comb. If you stay in a hotel, the minibars should be cleaned out before any girls arrive unless you want them grabbing overpriced candy bars. Since BNBs don't have safes, I have a portable safe from eBay, which I use for my passport and extra cash. My phone and wallet are in my pants whenever I go shower.

Next, I prefer BBFS. Each to their own on this one. Because girls almost never want others to know they do BB, I can't share the names on ISG. Overall the rate of girls who will do BBFS is something like 50% on FB, about 80% for the Centro SWs, and 0% for girls who work in the well known bars. Not enough data points for me in casas to say what the % is there but the girls working in smaller casas probably are more likely to do so.

Finally, I also have a lot of time this trip so for those who can't deal with waiting, FB is not a good option. Instead try on-site service at casas and strip clubs. You can also pick up SWs at various places.

Brief Spanish notes: in Colombia, "cancelar" usually means to pay instead of to cancel. I've messed up at least one appointment because I thought the girl wanted to cancel. I've heard this several times and it screwed up the translation each time until I mentally corrected it. Colombians never seem to use "beber" for drinking alcohol, always "tomar", which also translates to "to take". It can be confusing when they use it without a direct object in the same sentence. Another common translator mistake is when girls don't add the accent to si, and it turns the "yes" into an "if". If you use a foreign transaction fee free card like BoA Travel Rewards, tell the cashier "puedes usar pesos para la moneda de la transaccion". Sometimes they'll automatically charge in your native currency with a conversion fee.

Day 1.

Arrived late in MDE, around midnight. Thanks to another report on ISG I started looking for Davivienda ATMs instead of a BancoColombia one. Davivienda doesn't charge ATM fees. Although my Schwab card should reimburse the fees, they do it in a lump sum at the end of the month and I have no easy way of verifying whether all fees have been refunded. So if it's not an inconvenience, I'm going to go to Davivienda from now on. They limit withdrawals to 320 k but you can withdrawal multiple times.

Despite the posted rate of 70 k for a solo taxi from the airport to anywhere in Medellin, the white taxi drivers won't take it. They're offering shared rides with 3-4 riders for 50 k each. Since there's no traffic at night I just went with that option.

I got settled in at 1:30 am. I thought I'd check out Centro in case there's something still left there. My thinking was if there were no girls, I would have paid 15-20 k round trip for some late-night intel, which is still worth it. I'm not recommending to do this at 2 am for anyone by the way. The street that I was walking on though was relatively well lit, so I didn't feel I was in danger. I asked the Uber driver to go to the intersection of Calle 53 and Carrera 54 and started walking east on Calle 53. On my way there in the Uber, I saw that the chica population is pretty thin but they were still out there. Luckily for me after not even walking for 10 seconds I saw a bunch of girls sitting there with one of them being very pretty. She was blond with light brown eyes, white skin, European facial features and her tits were of a nice size, and not fat, at least not on initial inspection. I was planning a trip to Eastern Europe to meet girls like this but Medellin can get you close looks-wise. I was offering 200 k for BBFS in Bogota but decided to see if 150 k for the same would work in Medellin. The girl didn't even negotiate with me and took it. Later I found out a lot of Centro girls will take less.

Back home though I see she does have a bit of belly fat. It's not so bad but it did knock her down looks wise. I'd still rate her a 7 overall. It was too good to be true if she was working Centro late night, was thin, had a pretty face, and had big titties. One or more of those things had to give. She asked me to prepay the 150 k (similar to my Bogota SF experience) and tried to grab another 20 k for propina. I'm like no no no, took the bill back, and told her afterwards maybe. The session did go relatively smoothly although it was hard to get her to do exactly what I wanted. Maybe a communication issue. She didn't kiss much and didn't like FIV. I shot it partially inside her and she pulled out before I completely finished inside, paid her a 20 k propina and a 10 k for a return taxi ride.

Day 2.

Picked up stuff at an Exito. They require a physical passport to buy things with a foreign Visa. I didn't have to show my passport in a Bogota Exito so it must be store specific. There was a helpful local lady behind who spoke English. She sees me buying water and she told me the tap water here is safe to drink. I tried it when I got home, and it was indeed crisp and without any metallic or chemical taste. For the rest of the trip, besides the first several bottles I just put tap water in the fridge and it tastes great with no issues. I used that for everything else too, like coffee and tea.

I went to buy a SIM card. I tried buying one from a small convenience store but I couldn't understand the guy. I think he told me I have to add credit for data at a Tigo / Claro office, so he was no help. I then came across a small cell phone repair shop. The guy there was really helpful. "yo quiero un SIM card con solo datos" is enough to get across what I needed. I got 30 days of 4 G data only with 2 GB of credit for 45 k. Plenty for maps, FB, and WhatsApp. He showed me the menu of services on his computer and there was a 7 day / 650 MB and a 30 day option, so nothing exactly for my length of stay. You don't really need voice / text since everyone has WhatsApp. Receiving text messages and calls for app verification and things like that is always free. Don't buy SIM cards at the airport unless you absolutely need it immediately.

Contacted my first FB girl. She seemed eager to meet, so that's also a good sign. I proposed 150 k for her but she suggested 200 k. I said for 200 k I'd want BB and she accepted. I also paid her a 20 k tip and about 20 k for taxis round trip. She also showed up pretty much on time. Her session was great. Her photos are accurate enough, though she was a little curvier than anticipated. Not fat though, and she had some baby damage. Typical Paisa look, ie, dark hair Iberian with fair skin. Overall she's like a 7. 5. She seemed very experienced and wasn't hesitant about things like the girl from last night. Very GFE, allowed kissing and FIV. Came inside of her and she took it like a champ.

Evening had dinner on La 70 (Cra. 70). This place is great for food and convenient shopping. The eateries are open late so you can always get full if you're hungry. Headed out to Centro again at 11 pm. This time I started at Calle 52 and Carrera 54 and walked east, then left at Avenida Cundinamarca. I walked around that block once, then went east on Calle 53, dropped in at Conejitas. If you look younger they might ask to check your ID and they did that for me. No girls dancing on stage. Only two girls sitting around and I wasn't really into them. Then I started walking around the blocks, but when I got to Calle 56 I realized this is starting to get iffy and I GTFO'd as quickly as I can. One guy is trying to sell me drugs I think and followed me until I got back to Calle 53. I just walked fast and looked behind me and made sure he knew I was aware of where he was. There are some semi-aggressive trannies scattered throughout but I didn't make eye contact so they didn't bother me after initially calling out at me. There are lots of bars around that area with freelancers, but I think they end at Calle 55 I think, so there's no reason to go up to Calle 56 where it's not well lit. Overall the SW, bar FL population wasn't high. Bogota's Santa Fe definitely beats this entire Centro area when it comes to SW quantity as well as quality.

In one of the bars I saw a morena girl (mixed with brown skin). She quoted 100 k to go to Estadio for one hour. I asked for BB, she says 150. Wouldn't take 120. Maybe she would if I walked away but given the few choices there at the moment, I think she was one of the better ones so I agreed. I was more curious about how far low they'd go. 19 years old and verified her cedula when I got back just to make sure. She was very into me and being only 19 she had really great skin. She was thin but her tits were massive. Holy crap. I played with those things like a little boy. Her face was pretty enough, but the body was top notch. Super GFE, deep throat, pussy-to-mouth, lots of kissing. She was giving me the fuck me harder look throughout the session. Blew a load inside her and she kept riding me after I've already gone soft. This girl didn't ask me to prepay unlike my first two sessions. I haven't had a real problem either way, but I think the more hardened SWs will ask for that.

Day 3.

Messaged an FB girl. She was slow to respond, so I moved on. In my opinion, unless you really want a girl I don't think it's worth waiting for any particular one to respond. I just check my list of FB contacts and message those who are showing they're online. What's even better is when they message you, then you know they won't flake. Right now I have about 150 on my contact list to give you an idea. Some are very recent adds so they're active. Some of the older ones from a year ago dropped off FB. Don't bother with those who aren't online unless you want an appointment several hours or a day later. In my opinion if you're going for FB girls, it's best to refresh your list every time you go. Then during late morning, early afternoon on a day that's not Sunday or a festivo you should have no shortage of girls to pick from.

Messaged another one. She seems pretty new to the FB scene and before I came to MDE her messages to me were more enthusiastic, like lots of emojis rather than the usual "si claro" etc. Usually that's a good sign. 150 k + taxi for BBFS. She was 20 years old with a kid. However no body fat at all and no baby damage. Good skin, small titties but still fun to suck on and play with, a cute baby face, typical Paisa look with fair skin, overall very attractive. I also love long hair, which she had. She came from Itagui. As she was relatively new, she was somewhat shy. But once we started fucking she turned it on. Great experience, nearly matching the level of GFE I had last night except that she was just a little more reserved. Dumped a load into her hole at the end. 40 k taxi round trip + the 150 k. Didn't have 2 x 20's so I gave her a 50 k for a total of 200 k. Basically it's a small propina. She was happy with it and sent some sweet messages on her way back.

Went to Fase Dos at around 11 pm or so. The quality of the girls there are very good with maybe 2 below average that I wouldn't do. I'd say the median is a 7. 5 to 8 but I think they topped out at 9's that day. A session is 190 k on-premise in case you haven't read other reports. I wanted to know whether these girls will go out and for how much, so when the girls finished stripping and come down for tips I'd get their number and leave them a 2 k tip. Their working hours are something like some time in the evening to 4 am. I started messaging some before 4 am and some after. More responses came after of course. I've gotten quotes between 150 k to 300 k + taxi with the median being 200 k. I think the 300 k girl can be negotiated down to 250 k but didn't try. None accepted BBFS for any price, which didn't really surprise me. I honestly don't think it's worth paying 250 k for these girls to take home if you have the time to do some exploring. During this entire trip I've met FB girls and even SWs priced between 100-150 k who had the looks to be working in Fase Dos. You pay for convenience and for some that's worth it. For me this trip, no.

Day 4.

Continued to message some some Fase Dos girls but I'm not getting the kind of responses I'm looking for. Messaged a FB girl who's pretty hot. I had my eye on her since my last trip to MDE. She doesn't do BBFS and charges 200 k. I find that generally the hotter the girl the better they take care of themselves and won't do BB.

Around afternoon, I headed to Centro starting at the Veracruz church. Walked for about 30 min and poking my head into several bars, no lookers, but finally on one side of one street (and not the other side) there were a bunch of good looking girls all over there. This is Friday, so I expected more girls to be out. One really pretty mulata chica with small titties caught my attention. She looks kind of Arab, she's got European facial features but darker skin, very exotic looking. I offered 125 + taxi for one HR BB and she accepted. At my place she said if she can do coke there. That's a bad sign and the session was indeed mediocre. She gagged at the slightest bit of BJ and had to puke in the bathroom a couple of times. She kept stopping to make sure I didn't come inside her and kept going "leche bebe" trying to make me hurry. Ignored her and took my time. Learning from my Bogota trip, chicks on drugs often don't get wet, so I did thankfully bring lube with me this time. The girl from Bogota tore my foreskin and took me three weeks to fully heal. Sometimes you can't tell whether a girl will be GFE or not before the session starts. For example the Day 2 girl from Centro and this one acted pretty much the same before our session. Checked her FB pics and she's been to the Mansion before. I'm guessing with that kind of service and drug habit she wouldn't be invited back by the Mansion. I saw this girl hanging out around Veracruz a second time at the tail end of my trip. She called out to me, but remembering my first session, I told her no.

At night I scheduled an FB girl who I had added last time I came to MDE but never met. She spoke English very well, had a pretty face, and was very friendly on Messenger. She was on the older side, just under 30, but she maintained her body. We had a good hour long conversation in English before the highly GFE session. One thing about the more experienced girls is their skill. Her BBBJ was fantastic and she got really into the sex. 150 k + tip + taxi or about 180 k.

Day 5.

Stuck at home recovering from food poisoning from last night. Stay away from the street food unless you love vomiting and diarrhea.

Day 6.

Recovered enough to finally go out again around early afternoon. This is Sunday so I'm not expecting much activity on the streets but there were enough. Again at Raudal on that same street where I saw the Day 4 girl there was another cutie who I started negotiations with. Originally she didn't want to go, but I offered 100 k and taxi and she agreed. For BB she asked for 150 k. She was really quiet and a starfish in bed. No BJ without a 20 k upsell. Then her BJ was also bad. Her body was a little messed up. She's got a big scar on her stomach, that I didn't mind so much, but her tits were saggy from pregnancy. The total cost should have been 180 k but I ended up paying 200 k because I have no small bills for her taxi back. Not worth it overall. I could have avoided the upsell by clarifying that the money was "para todo", but I only experienced this once on this trip, so I wouldn't really bother with it.

I went to the Makro on Calle 44. This is like a Colombian Costco / Sam's Club. I didn't really need things in bulk but maybe others will want to load up on alcohol or drinks, in which case this would be great for them. However they asked for ID at the checkout. I showed them my state driver's license since I don't bring my passport out. It seems like they have some trouble processing that and had to override to allow me to make a purchase. In the end Exito is a lot more convenient.

Sunday night, no FB girl that I messaged was working. I was curious what the Veracruz area is up to at midnight. Even though I went, it's not really a good idea at this time. I don't stand out as a foreigner as much from afar, but taller gringos, especially with fair hair, would. My Uber driver warned me to be careful as well. Arrived at the Plaza Botero and I see at least one group of younger guys hanging around. The cops went to frisk them for some reason and I stayed away. There are cops scattered throughout that area, but their coverage is fairly low so it's still not very safe overall. There were some areas around the bars that were well lit and populated, but in between the streets it can get pretty sketchy. I saw my girl from Day 2. I said Hi to her but didn't take her back. Around the church there was a cute girl with 3 other older ladies standing around. You have to be really careful of these older ladies since a group of them can easily overpower a normal guy. You need to keep out of arm's length unless you know it's safe to get closer. There were also 4 cops about 10 ft away so it was alright and I wouldn't have done so if there were no police around. The girl was from Venezuela. Though we started negotiations at 100 k, we ended up at 150 k because the older ladies were against BBFS and kept telling her not to go with me and go instead to one of the love motels around. Somehow I got them to trust me and she came with me. I also offered 50 USD which is slightly more than 150 k COP, but she preferred the COP. From my experience in Bogota, some Venezuelans will see USD as being more valuable. Cabbie was stupid and turned off the meter right before I arrived at my apartment and demanded more than what the fare was. I saw the meter though and told him what it was and he still ended up taking 1 k peso than the actual fare. The girl was of course apprehensive near the church but once she arrived in my apartment she relaxed a lot. Once she got on WiFi and can contact her friends she was no longer as nervous. The girl had really nice tits, a little curvier at the waist than I expected but not bad. She did BBFS but insisted on CBJ for some odd reason. Session was fine overall, and she took a creampie. Worth the risk of going to Veracruz at midnight? I'm not sure about that. The girl also rummaged through some of my stuff when I was cleaning up as I later found out. As I mentioned, all my cash and passport are locked up and my wallet / phone comes with me during a shower. I later told her on WhatsApp I knew what she did and she should be careful that other guys may not let it go so easily. The girl messaged me like every other day afterwards for session #2, but her going through my stuff was off-putting and I never called her up a second time.

Day 7.

Called the Day 2 morena to come by. We scheduled a 300 k / 1 HR video session. Most girls are camera shy at first so our session wasn't as hot as the first time, but it was still very good and well worth the money. I took her to La 70 for dinner afterwards. Communication was of course very limited, but she's a sweetheart.

The girl fell asleep after our session so by the time she woke up it's already late. After grabbing dinner it's already around midnight. I don't want to do the Centro thing again, not today at least, so I'm scrounging through FB for contacts that are showing active. One girl was slow to respond, one girl didn't want to do BBFS, another one agreed to everything without negotiating price with me. WTF? So I offered 150 which she accepted. She comes in about 20 minutes and she does have this tomboyish look. It didn't help that she was flat as a board. I was a little scared of her being trans but I did ask her to bring her cedula for age and gender check just to be sure. I also did an Adam's Apple check when she arrived. The Philippines will make you paranoid about this shit. She's another European looking girl with fair skin and light brown hair. Her skin has a bunch of flaws even though she's just 19. She's kind of a ditz but she fucks with a passion and we finished with a dripping CIP. After we're done I call her an Uber. She doesn't remind me of the payment and I just gave her the 150 before she headed out the door. She then nearly forgets her phone.

Day 8.

Scheduled the Day 2 paisa for a 300 k video session. Regarding these video sessions, I do a normal session first, propose a video, and sometimes they agree right then and sometimes after a day of the initial proposal they'll come back and agree. A couple of girls asked for 400 k initially, but 300 k is a lot of money in Colombia and they'll take it. As I found out later some girls will take even less. She says she was available at 8 pm, so I tried to schedule something ahead of her arrival but to no avail. I woke up really late so I only had a 3 hour window. One responded every 5 minutes, one didn't do BB. I had one message me but she was not good looking. Her profile pics didn't show her face when I added her. The FB girl who rejected BB yesterday came around and agreed for 200 k, but by the time she messaged me it was too late. I could have went to a casa but instead I just watched YouTube. It's a good break from all the sex anyway. The paisa girl comes at 8 pm and we have a great session. She is a little camera shy like with most other amateurs, but I got what I expected to get.

Day 9.

I started scheduling my appointments at 3 pm but all of a sudden, one of the girls who refused BB yesterday came around and agreed to meet. Since she's really hot I decided to stick with her. She said she's available at 6 but by that time it was going to be difficult to squeeze in any guaranteed outcalls in an hour with some recovery time. So I decided to wait til 6. However at 5:30 she said she'd be arriving at 7:30 then finally at 8:30 she says she's on her period. Well that ruined my entire day. This is my first flake in MDE in two trips.

I messaged another FB girl who agreed to do BBFS after declining first, and she was punctual. Arrived in 30 minutes. She wasn't as hot but she had a nice body and she has a face that looks like she's permanently high, which might actually be true. During our session she tried to get me to do CFS again but I pulled out my STD test docs and she was happy. 200 k and about 30 k of cab fares. When scheduled her a second time she took 150 k + taxi, which nearly everyone takes once they trust you.

A midnight round at Veracruz. If anything looks remotely like a trannie, even if there were real girls among them, I would avoid if you're alone. Since they're really men one or two of them can easily overpower you. Looked inside one of the bars and there was a decent looking girl sitting at a table not doing anything. I tried talking to her but she was surprised why I was doing that. So I asked directly whether she goes with customers and she says no. This makes me confused about what is the purpose of her being there. Walking towards the church, I saw girl who looks coked out. But she was cute enough and I proposed 100 k for 1 HR BB, which she accepted. Lowest price thus far this trip. We went into a cab that's right next to where we were. She apparently knows him. On our way back I gave my phone to the cabbie so he has directions, but at the end of the ride he refused to give it back. He's saying something and pointing to the girl. I think he was using my phone as insurance that the girl will come back out since he seems to be protective of her. But I asked him politely to give back the phone several times, and he did give it back in the end. It felt like a robbery at first but logically speaking you can identify the cab and its driver by the car number, so it's not terribly likely. Lesson learned though, bring a piece of paper with the address instead of trusting cab drivers with your phone. Or remember how to say the address and give directions in Spanish, which is exactly what I did later.

Now what happened with the cab driver made me really wary so when the girl asked me to prepay I refused to do so, and I asked her to leave if she insists. Eventually I got her to accept post-pay but it was a huge hassle. The session was non-GFE as I had expected, but she got the job done. She was also maybe a couple of months preggers as I found out after she took off her clothes. Didn't make much of a difference to me.

Day 10.

300 k video session with the English speaking girl from day 4. Trying to slow it down a bit so only one session today. I should have proposed 250 k first but I forgot. 250 k would have been 100 k more than what I paid her for a normal session, which turns out to be enough every time I tried it.

Day 11.

Friday and it's rainy. I was thinking about going out for some touristy things but it was too muggy and rain-prone. Trying to schedule some girls on FB. The one that was slow to respond is still slow to respond as usual. She says she can meet at 4 or 5 pm but at 4 she didn't respond and at 5 she says "almost". I gave up on her, deleted her contact on WhatsApp. It's kind of sad because she was very hot, but I can't deal with another flake today. Had some food and messaged other FB chicks. One says she didn't do BB on the first meeting, another says 200 k to start. For the 200 k girl I said I can only pay 150 and she agreed but she's not available until later. From her FB profile it shows she's been to Gusto's so she has experience overcharging gringos. Another one is not available.

This one really pretty girl became active as I was talking to these girls. I messaged her, proposed 150 for BBFS and she agreed. She said she'd be here in about 30-45 min but came in an hour. That's not so bad in the grand scheme of things. When she came I saw that she was hotter than her pics. She says she's 24 but looked slightly younger. If you can imagine Veronica Rodriguez, the porn star, but whiter skin and one size larger breasts, that would describe her fairly accurately. I told her about Veronica Rodriguez and she knew who that was. Cool chick. No kids either so no baby damage. She's probably the hottest girl I've met on this trip overall. One I say has a better face, one has a better body (thin and massive tits girl from Day 2) but no one had her combination. She even paid for her own Uber ride here and was going to pay for her ride back as well, but I stopped her and offered at least her ride back and a 20 k tip as a friendly gesture. It's really amazing what you can get in Colombia for $50. Although it's not quite the same, it did feel like I got an escort experience with a top level porn star, something that guys in the US are paying $1000-2000 per hour for. If I met her the first day I would have pounded her little body silly, but my libido was thinning by this time so it took a while for me to finish. She had some kind of sniffing drug with her. From the looks of the label it's a party drug, so MDMA maybe.

Day 12.

As I was planning my day, the day 3 paisa messaged me. She needs money and I'm happy to oblige. I proposed 100 k more than her previous fee for a video which she accepted. So 250 k overall plus taxis, which ends up being about 300 k in total since she comes all the way from Itagui. I remembered I brought over some Cialis from the Philippines, and these helped a great deal this session. I always try to stock up on these in the Fils since they're cheaper there than anywhere else I've been to. Generic tadalafil is also available in Medellin as well but slightly more expensive. Another amazingly GFE experience like the first time. I thought she was shy at first but she's a natural on camera.

At around 9 pm, went to the main Centro bars. Conejitas, Maracaibo and Barra Ejecutiva. With a friend. They have a decent selection at that time. Between all of them I'd say the median is a 7. Got a couple of contacts and hope for the best next day. I got some good tips from my friend about not coming in these bars too late, when the guys are all drunk and start creating problems.

Day 13.

Super Bowl Sunday. Nothing came of my Centro bar contacts. I called up an old contact from my first trip to MDE. As a newbie I paid her 250 k first time just for BBFS. I offered 250 k this time to include a video which she accepted. I remember her being an hour and a half late the first time so I'm not exactly expecting promptness. She didn't really give me an ETA so about 2 hrs after I reach out to her she came. She did kinda drop a few updates along the way so I had confidence she'll come eventually. I had plenty of things to do to kill that time. Great GFE session. Since she knows me she was a bit more comfortable this second time around.

Invite an FB girl who was recommended by my buddy. We negotiated for 200 k BBFS. She didn't want to do BB for 150 k at first but said an hour later that 200 k would be OK with her. Very common for girls to re-think once that money is put in front of them. She was prompt and she was pretty cool. The body was banging, however her face wasn't my type and it kind distracted me during the session, and I couldn't finish. She takes photos with good angles on FB so she looked better there. Deleted her contact afterwards.

Invited the day 2 morena back for session #3. It's sort of a half-TLN, starting at midnight, so I paid 200 for her to come. We get along very well so it's worth it for her to stay over. I fucked her brains out since the girl from my last session put this one in a much better light.

Day 14.

The TLN girl made it hard to sleep at night. I'm reminded of how nice it is to sleep alone. She's very nice but I had no energy to do a second shot with her due to nearly getting no sleep and I sent her home around noon.

I wasn't feeling very energetic but I decided to go to Plaza Botero again to see what's there at 7 pm. I didn't mind if I came back empty handed. It's barely after dark and shouldn't be that dangerous as many people are still around, so it should be low-risk. The Uber driver did warn me about being careful though, but having been there after 11, this wasn't bad. I see a good number of cops around. As soon as I stepped into the plaza, this young hot paisa walked by and smiled at me. My jaw nearly dropped. Like wtf is she doing in Plaza Botero. So I talk to her, found that she was 18 nearing 19, and proposed 100 k /1 HR. She kinda did a double take when I offered that amount. I guess she was surprised at how high it was (for her), and I was surprised she took it. I do want to note that 100 k / HR at a local hotel is more than what people should be paying in Centro, but I thought a little extra would be make an outcall to Laureles easier to digest for them.

Back at my place we chilled for a while. I found out she was an anime fan and listens to 80's American rock. She played some anime trivia game on YouTube so we bonded like that. So she's not only hot but she's culturally curious as well. We did the Google Translate thing for about an hour or so until she said she had to go soon. We went for our session, which was great. No body fat, good sized boobs, no skin issues. But she had a funky smell in her pussy. It literally smells like tacos. As far as I know, that's usually not something infectious but it was gross. She said she washed before, but maybe not that thoroughly. Finished with a load of cum in her pussy.

Day 15.

The girl from day 9 who flaked on me messaged me a day ago saying she wants to meet. I didn't have a lot of confidence in her but I told her I'll message her. So around 2 pm I sent out an "hola, eres disponsible hoy?" to her, got an hola back an hour later and nothing else. I didn't plan my day around her so no big deal. I found out this girl is from Caldas, which is about 20 km from Laureles.

Around 4 pm, took a walk from the Metropolitan Cathedral all the way to Plaza Botero. The Cathedral area was where I met a sweet Venezuelan working at a casa on my first trip, but those casas seem to be closed at this time. Walked around Veracruz and Raudal. There were enough girls but very few I'd consider to be do-able. Like maybe 1 in 10. There's one girl who was kind of pretty but on closer inspection, her skin had issues and she was very thin, so she was possibly on something strong like heroin. She said she was 19 but she looked almost 30. Not so safe health-wise. Since I had a couple of appointment options I was looking for more than just do-able today so I left without taking anyone.

8 pm video session with the girl from yesterday. Before the session I asked her to wash down there but there was still some funky smell. I tried to say it in the nicest way possible but there's no way to make a girl happy about hearing that. I offered what is now my own standard of 100 k for video, but she didn't want to show her face. I offered 150 k for no face (50 k more than the regular session) and she agreed. I did accidentally get her face in there a couple of times and she was worried, but I told her 250 k to let me keep the vids and she was fine with that.

Day 16.

Scheduled the day 7 tomboyish girl for a video session. She gave me a choice of 6 or midnight. I said midnight which gives me plenty of time to check Centro. I didn't really care whether I got anything today in Centro but hopefully so. At 5 pm there are lots of girls but again very few do-able ones. Didn't go to Raudal and stayed near Veracruz and the Plaza. After finding nothing good for about 30 min I sat down on a bench and checked my surroundings. An ugly girl sat down next to me, trying to make a conversation. I was nice to her but overall ignored her. I see a decent looking girl close by, excused myself from the ugly and went to her. Proposed 100 k for BBFS which she accepted. Overall average looking but her body seemed to be in good shape, which is probably the most important thing. Good GFE-ish session. Paid her another 20 k for her cab home.

This was my last Centro SW romp. Overall I felt the Centro SW scene in Medellin is far behind Bogota's Santa Fe. I don't think it's worth going there just for SWs after 9 or 10 pm. Before is fine. Bars are fine but the freelancers are thinly populated and low-quality late night. In Santa Fe, there are some real sweethearts, especially the Venezuelans, and you can find them at any time, from morning to late night. The Centro SWs are not as hardworking nor are they as good looking on average. There are gems around, but you have take the time, walk around and look, and depending on when you do it, it might be more risk than it's worth. I never felt I was in any real danger but I felt more eyes looking at me when it's dark. I'm pretty sure most of them are just curious but you never know. Wolf also recommended that if you do Centro SWs, go during the day time or early evening, so listen to this guy. This would give you a lot more choices and it's much less dangerous.

The video session girl never came online after 6 pm. This is another lesson learned for me, schedule them as early as possible if you really want them. By now I've done pretty much everything I wanted to have done this trip, so she was more or less icing.

Day 17 Last day.

I messaged the girl who flaked on me yesterday asking what happened. No response. I don't care too much because there are always other choices, but I want to know why she was prompt the first time and flaked the next.

Since I have a flight to catch today, I need reliability. The perma-high girl from Day 9 comes online and I've been wanting to session with her a second time. I tell her since we know each other now, how about 150 k (she charged 200 k the first time). She agrees. She comes in about 1 HR and I just threw out the 100 k video offer on the spot in case she's fine with it. She tries to negotiate for 300 k total, but I said no can do. She accepts and was pretty cool about it. We have a fun session and finished in her puss. She's got a lot of experience with foreigners so she knows to speak slowly which allowed me to catch her general meaning about half the time. She also says she can refer me to some apartments that are cheaper and better next time I come.

One last video session at 6 pm with the same girl from Day 13. She arrives at 7 pm. She seems to be always consistently 1-1.5 HR late, so I'm wondering if she's simply misunderstanding that 6 pm is the time she's supposed to arrive. The cab driver who took her here turned off his meter before asking me to pay. I would normally call it out, but he tells me 20 k which by my estimate is approximately right for coming from Bello. Apparently the girl had to change taxis in the middle and this second driver should have only been paid about 10 k. She got a little upset because I'm supposed to pay her 10 k and the driver another 10 k, but she didn't tell me before I paid. There are lots of dishonest cab drivers in Colombia, which is why I avoid them when possible and use Uber. Anyways she let it go and gave me another great session.

The flake girl at like 8 pm when I'm about to leave told me she totally forgot our appointment last night. I knew she was a ditz.

Alright well that's it, until next time.

JjBee62
02-10-19, 04:06
P. S. She was showing me pictures in her phone and a few made me think of the guy the other day that was looking for Instagram models. I started to ask her to send me those pictures too. I asked her who the fuck is that on those pictures, because it looked nothing like she looked in front of me. She said that is me. It is just the MAKEUP that I had on for the photos that makes me look like that. Exactly what I said the other day: surgery, makeup, camera tricks is what makes your Instagram model.I know 2 make-up artists in Medellin. Well, 1 moved back to Bogota, although she's in MDE at the moment. The other one is a Venezuelan. Most of her work she's doing for porn shoots and for Instagram models. 30 minutes to go from a 7 or 8 to a 10.

I ran a few photo shoots in Medellin. You can take the same girl, take 10 practically identical shots. 2 will be terrible, 2 will be fantastic and the rest will fall somewhere in between.

ILuvThePussy
02-10-19, 04:51
Got any FB names? If so how much would they be on FB? The ones she sent me were all 200,000-300,000 and they range from 400,000-600,000 TLN.Look up a guy named "medellin rich" on fb, old white guy with gray hair. His friends list is open and is basically all pros from medellin. I paid between 150 k-200 k for every girl. Idk about TLN, never asked or did it.

Blklouky
02-10-19, 04:56
More times than I can count I have met a girl at maybe lets say a friends house and they were going to swim or something so no make up, then fast forward 4 or 5 hours later I revisit the house again as there is a party and WHAM I see the same girl but with a nice dress and hair done and make up and damn my eyes just popped from the beauty that has transformed itself before me.

Combine this with good photos, some professional, great lighting and camera angles, perhaps a bit of photo-shopping and WHAM there is your dime Instagram model.

The Tall Man.So true. Makeup, lighting, and filters do wonders. This chica showed me a app that can enhance parts on their bodies smh. They use to say don't trust a big butt and smile, not I say don't trust internet or whatsapp photos.

PolloNegro
02-10-19, 05:59
More times than I can count I have met a girl at maybe lets say a friends house and they were going to swim or something so no make up, then fast forward 4 or 5 hours later I revisit the house again as there is a party and WHAM I see the same girl but with a nice dress and hair done and make up and damn my eyes just popped from the beauty that has transformed itself before me.

Combine this with good photos, some professional, great lighting and camera angles, perhaps a bit of photo-shopping and WHAM there is your dime Instagram model.

The Tall Man.I have been saying it for years. A galaxy J3 will not produce the same quality photos that a Galaxy S9 will produce. A girl with make up on may look better or different that she does when she does not wear make up. If I like a Vera Cruz chic and we have really connected, I will contact her like 2 days before I arrive and I will ask her to do a few things before I arrive. I may send $300,000 -$450,000 pesos and tell her to have her nails and feet done, have her hair done and to have it dyed professionally. This does 2 things, it gives you the girl in the way that you may have imagined her and it also give you a chance to take her out in public with no one staring at you while she has her little hooker clothes on. These girls do not have $300,000-$450,000 pesos to blow on hair do's and pedicures. But I have a certain look that I want to see when I arrive in Medellin with certain girls. The first pic is how she looks everyday in Vera Cruz, the other pics are how she looks when I send her money to get dolled up before I arrive. A little hair dye, make up, new dress and a good camera can make a 5 look like a 9 with minimal effort. Just my two cents. Pollo negro is out!

JjBee62
02-10-19, 15:31
Look up a guy named "medellin rich" on fb, old white guy with gray hair. His friends list is open and is basically all pros from medellin. I paid between 150 k-200 k for every girl. Idk about TLN, never asked or did it.Or look up "Happy Ending Medellin" on Facebook. It was a massage place in Poblado, up the hill a ways from Lleras. Not sure if they still are open or not. At one time they were trying to branch into webcams. However, their friends list is full of both gringo mongers and pros.

CeeJay1
02-10-19, 16:27
No sure how booked they get, walk in might just be up to luck if they are busy or not, and no, they raised their prices to $35 a night for some reason, I always book them thru Hotels.com but they are on Booking.com also.Okay good, thanks, its around $29 on hotels.com, I wonder if the roof bar and restaurant, are still there.

Wolf662
02-10-19, 17:05
Okay good, thanks, its around $29 on hotels.com, I wonder if the roof bar and restaurant, are still there.Should be, roof top bar is open 11-8 ish, 2nd floor restaurant I don't use, it's eat what they got kinda place, I do Versailles for breakfast and then Brasa Pan which is cheap and 24 HR.

A room on the highest floor you can get is better, better view, less noise and nice breeze, west side is cooler in the morning for sleeping in.

YippieKayay
02-10-19, 17:55
These girls do not have $300,000-$450,000 pesos to blow on hair do's and pedicures. But I have a certain look that I want to see when I arrive in Medellin with certain girls. The first pic is how she looks everyday in Vera Cruz, the other pics are how she looks when I send her money to get dolled up before I arrive. A little hair dye, make up, new dress and a good camera can make a 5 look like a 9 with minimal effort. Just my two cents. Pollo negro is out!I used to do this with a sugar baby years ago. She does look better but most of the money goes to the novio's drug habit and later he gets to fuck her with her new look.

Also weren't you paying a family down there to find grannies for you to fuck?

Mr Enternational
02-10-19, 18:05
People have PMed me asking where my favorite casa is. I have been going there for years but never knew the name. So it popped into my head the other day to ask the chick that was sitting with me. She said it does not have a name. Then she said just call it Donde Fany. I asked oh Fany is the owner? Because I had always thought that guy was the owner. But Fany happened to be running around there too. Maybe she owns the casa a couple of doors down too, because when we were outside we saw the chicks going back and forth between the two.

Clle 61 #53-08.

JustReading
02-10-19, 18:25
Just checked into Nutibara. First time in Centro and what a difference to Poblado! Can't imagine the transformation once nightfall arrives.

Anyway with regards to it being GF or not; according to the rules placed inside the rooms visits limited to 30 minutes are allowed before 6 pm. After 6 pm a 46 k fee must be paid and seemingly can stay all night. Not sure how strictly the pre 6 pm 30 minute rule is enforced though.

Wolf662
02-10-19, 20:17
Just checked into Nutibara. First time in Centro and what a difference to Poblado! Can't imagine the transformation once nightfall arrives.

Anyway with regards to it being GF or not; according to the rules placed inside the rooms visits limited to 30 minutes are allowed before 6 pm. After 6 pm a 46 k fee must be paid and seemingly can stay all night. Not sure how strictly the pre 6 pm 30 minute rule is enforced though.There is a back entrance in the hotel thru the restaurant "La Raza" on Ave Maracaibo you might be able to bypass the front desk that way. (at least till they close) 2 ATM's in that part of the hotel also. And across from the restaurant are the airport buses for under 10 k. 24 HR food to the left at BrasePan and 2 strip club / brothels to the right a block. (Maracaibo & Barra Ejectiva) Also a grocery store tucked in under the hotel across from the metro tracks.

PolloNegro
02-10-19, 20:44
I used to do this with a sugar baby years ago. She does look better but most of the money goes to the novio's drug habit and later he gets to fuck her with her new look.

Also weren't you paying a family down there to find grannies for you to fuck?Down inside why you are a monger. If you worry about what a girl does with her money she makes from selling herself then you are truly emotional and probably shouldn't be mongering. Take the girl in the last photo, I know she has a boyfriend, that's why I demand a BBBJCIM every session just so she can go home & kiss the little prick. As long as she comes to my place everytime I call her, who am I to cpmplain that she has a boyfriend? I salute the boyfriend for allowing me to rent her fine ass everyday for 2-3 weeks. I see all kinds of posts from BMs & I think man how can you be so gullible to women that you are paying for a service? But to each his own. As for the grannies, I found plenty over on the other side of vera cruz, and my girlfriend looks out for me with her cousins & classmates, for me, its all in all a great trade. A even swap is no swindle! Pollonegro is out!

JustReading
02-10-19, 20:46
Cheers Wolfie, added those two to my list. Also to the right of the hotel is Conejitas strip club which I may check out later today. Open at 13:30 Too so good for those who would only want to visit the are in the daytime.

The hotel is a lot better than I imagined too. I've booked a penthouse room with a massive balcony that overlooks Botero Plaza. It was around £30 a night and is fantastic value imo.


There is a back entrance in the hotel thru the restaurant "La Raza" on Ave Maracaibo you might be able to bypass the front desk that way. (at least till they close) 2 ATM's in that part of the hotel also. And across from the restaurant are the airport buses for under 10 k. 24 HR food to the left at BrasePan and 2 strip club / brothels to the right a block. (Maracaibo & Barra Ejectiva) Also a grocery store tucked in under the hotel across from the metro tracks.

Orgasmico
02-11-19, 00:36
I was offering 200 k for BBFS in Bogota but decided to see if 150 k for the same would work in Medellin. The girl didn't even negotiate with me and took it. Later I found out a lot of Centro girls will take less.
Great report! You blew me away with the barebacking of these hookers but to each his own. I've never taken SW in Centro but have been with guys that have gotten girls there for very very very cheap. Glad you had a good time.

JustReading
02-11-19, 03:13
Visited a couple of strip clubs this evening. I've found the informstion on this site invaluable so I hope this report helps someone.

Walked the short distance from Nutibara to Conejitas bar show (playmates), and spent a good 60-90 minutes ogling the talent. It was rather busy with 25+ Colombian guys in there and around 15 girls. I originally thought this would be not such a great ratio, however most of the patrons seemed to be quite happy just chilling with their beers rather than getting busy with the girls. And who can blame them when beers are only 6 k. I was paying that in the museum cafe nearby, only I had Botero's sculptures as a view rather than some young, nubile Colombian sculptures. I know which I'd rather look at (sorry Fernando).

This was my first experience of a Colombian strip club, and I found it very dark. It took a while for my eyes to adjust. Things were pretty slow also with around a 15 minute gap between dances. Girls were cute. Mostly early 20's but too much plastic breasts and ass for my liking.

After a few beers I decided to move on, initially to get some food, however I then passed Nueva Avenida which I didn't realise was pretty much next door.

Friendly security on the door, as with playmates. The club was slightly smaller and I'd say the girls were outnumbering the guys with a rough count around 15 v 10. Same price as playmates, 6 k for beer. As soon as I entered I had my eye on an unconventional slightly chubby beauty with an ample rack and ass (both real), from a distance looked slightly on the mature side, which I don't mind, however upon closer inspection was probably late 20's early 30's. Anyway, sadly she was with another customer, and she looked like she had tons of sexy energy about her, being very playful with the punter. We exchanged smiles and glances every now and then and eventually the customer moved on without taking her to the room and so I moved in.

She was a very amiable woman named Jasmine. She had zero English skills and I have very limited Spanish however we made it work and after a couple of ladydrinks (Also priced 6 k) we went to the onsite bedroom. Price was 70 k for 30 minutes. An excellent session with DFK and a variety of positions, oral was with condom which I usually see as pointless, but she was very skilfull, including DT so I didn't complain. We finished just as the 30 minute knock on the door came, and had a quick shower in the am suite cubicle and headed back to the bar.

If you're not staying in the area and worried about venturing into Centro, both clubs are literally opposite the metro, so you can't go wrong. I was planning to explore Bar Marcaibo and Barra Ejecutiva but that will likely be tomorrow (google maps has these as next door to each other. Is that correct?

Oh one word of warning, when the girl first joined me at the 2nd club, and I'd bought myself another drink as well as a lady drink, I paid with a 50 k note, however after around 15 minutes of waiting I hadn't received my change. I told Jasmine (using Google translate!) and she sorted the situation very quickly and the male server apologised. Not sure if it was a genuine mistake or he thought I'd be distracted with other things (but it just goes to show that you always need to be aware of every situation.

The Tall Man
02-11-19, 03:33
I know some guys don't like mega-reports but imo it's easier to keep things in context.

Alright well that's it, until next time.Tasss, damn now that is a report, wow. Can hardly believe you can remember every detail from every day. And its all true as I read between the lines and notice all your details are accurate.

Yes Santa Fe in Bogota, I was there this past October 2018, is 20 or 30 times the size of the freelancer SW, I agree but still you only need one cool paisa chica to rock your world so it's all good weather in Bogota or Medellin.

Your report ws so pack full of information I don't know where to start to comment on the specifics other than a great report that should help others especially when it comes to what you paid and a big thank you for not over paying.

The Tall Man.

Wolf662
02-11-19, 04:49
Cheers Wolfie, added those two to my list. Also to the right of the hotel is Conejitas strip club which I may check out later today. Open at 13:30 Too so good for those who would only want to visit the are in the daytime.

The hotel is a lot better than I imagined too. I've booked a penthouse room with a massive balcony that overlooks Botero Plaza. It was around 30 a night and is fantastic value imo.Yeah Conejitas has the best rooms by far of the 3 and sometimes some real smoking hot chicks. Should be in the 80 k range.

For a good breakfast near there I go to Versailles on Junin Walking street. Go to Parque Bolivar and the walking street dead ends at the end of the park opposite the church, Vesailles is down on the right, if it looks like no tables stairs in the back to the 2nd floor.

http://versallesmedellin.com/

For very good traditional Colombian dinner try Hacienda also on Junin walking street.

https://www.haciendaorigen.com/

My other fav nice dinner place is a 10th story balcony restaurant:

Restaurante Credenza.

Carrera 45 # 53-24 floor 10.

http://www.credenzafoods.com/

Sho423
02-11-19, 05:03
I know some guys don't like mega-reports but imo it's easier to keep things in context.

Great report.

Are these girls on birth control or are you trying to make as many babies as you can?

Wolf662
02-11-19, 05:28
I was planning to explore Bar Marcaibo and Barra Ejecutiva but that will likely be tomorrow (google maps has these as next door to each other. Is that correct?.About 50 ft apart same side road with two small business' between them.

Tasss
02-11-19, 07:02
Great report.

Are these girls on birth control or are you trying to make as many babies as you can?I'm sure they're on birth control. Most have regular bfs I'm guessing. Plus I was doing about 2/ day for the most part so not much is coming out anyway LOL.


Tasss, damn now that is a report, wow. Can hardly believe you can remember every detail from every day. And its all true as I read between the lines and notice all your details are accurate.TY, I kept a record at the end of the day and went back once in a while to edit the earlier days' stuff. I wanted it to be as accurate and as useful as possible for others, so some retrospective is also important.


Great report! You blew me away with the barebacking of these hookers but to each his own. I've never taken SW in Centro but have been with guys that have gotten girls there for very very very cheap. Glad you had a good time.Thanks, yep BB ain't for everyone, but I've thankfully never gotten anything in Colombia since it's not the norm here.

Orgasmico
02-11-19, 07:16
Great report.

Are these girls on birth control or are you trying to make as many babies as you can?Good question. I would never think to ask a coke head street worker if she is on birth control.

Baudelairemod
02-11-19, 08:42
Great report! You blew me away with the barebacking of these hookers but to each his own. I've never taken SW in Centro but have been with guys that have gotten girls there for very very very cheap. Glad you had a good time.You took the words right out of my mouth. I would have been paranoid for days and probably sunk my junk in alcohol or some crazy shit like that!

Apart from that thanks for the great and useful report. Right mix of SW and FB girls. Shame about the one you found going through all your stuff but I guess that the game we play.


I know some guys don't like mega-reports but imo it's easier to keep things in context.

Another monger website focused on Colombia stole my first MDE mega-report. The admin copy / pasted the report using my account and then banned me from logging in so I can't delete the report. If you see this report on a website other than ISG, be aware that it's copy / pasted there without my permission.

This is my second trip to Medellin. The first MDE trip (search my December 2017 report), gave me a lot of good newbie experience in what MDE has to offer, and it also allowed me to filter out some unproductive activities and explore some new ones. I thought I already knew a lot between my two prior trips to CO, but I still learned a crap ton this time.

A few things to keep in mind when you're reading this. First I don't like doing it in an unfamiliar hotel or strip club and I want to take her back for the higher level of comfort. This is one major reason why I went with the Mansion in '17, in addition to that place being really safe. Bringing girls back does come with its own issues from time to time, mainly tardiness and the risk of theft in your room. As taking girls back to your hotel is the norm in the Philippines, I've had some experience prepping my room for strangers.
Glad to hear you made it back in one piece.

Out of curiosity did you hang out with anybody else while down there or was it just girls? I am only asking as 17 days can be long in a foreign country with only the fucking to keep you company (hehe).

Tasss
02-11-19, 09:51
Out of curiosity did you hang out with anybody else while down there or was it just girls? I am only asking as 17 days can be long in a foreign country with only the fucking to keep you company (hehe).Yes. The one friend I referred to on Day 12 is Judd, who's a regular poster here in the MDE forums. We hung out quite a few times. The English speaking girl from Day 4 was also good company and I met her twice. Almost a third time but she had a scheduling issue. Some other girls are also cool with just hanging out at my place, drinking, getting food, and watching TV with a bit of Google Translate here and there. Not everyone is so patient though, I can feel some girls have a schedule and they need to be somewhere else, and if I see that I limit my small talk and get on with the session.

Black Page
02-11-19, 12:13
Overall the rate of girls who will do BBFS is something like 50% on FB, about 80% for the Centro SWs, and 0% for girls who work in the well known bars. N

I was offering 200 k for BBFS in Bogota but decided to see if 150 k for the same would work in Medellin. The girl didn't even negotiate with me and took it. Later I found out a lot of Centro girls will take less.
You provided a sound evidence of why it is not advisable to go BBFS with Centro girls. I'd love it, but biological weapons have been forbidden by United Nations via the Biological Weapons Convention since 1975.

https://www.un.org/disarmament/wmd/bio/

Orgasmico
02-11-19, 14:10
You took the words right out of my mouth. I would have been paranoid for days and probably sunk my junk in alcohol or some crazy shit like that!

Back in the day, I knew a guy that would purchase penicillin in Sosua and start taking it at the end of his trips. I think he was a bareback guy as well.

Horny Goats
02-11-19, 15:53
I was planning to explore Bar Marcaibo and Barra Ejecutiva but that will likely be tomorrow (google maps has these as next door to each other. Is that correct?That is correct. Barra Ejecutiva is the better option. Enjoy!

Mr Enternational
02-11-19, 16:54
Also to the right of the hotel is Conejitas strip club which I may check out later today. Open at 13:30 Too so good for those who would only want to visit the are in the daytime. Actually not good, as one poster found out a couple of months ago when he was trying to go to the strip clubs in the day and the casas at night. 5 pm is the very earliest you want to go to Conejita's. Otherwise you will be in there alone with the bartender (if he is even there by then.).

Horny Goats
02-11-19, 16:58
I know some guys don't like mega-reports but imo it's easier to keep things in context.Great report, dude. Not sure who would fail to appreciate a mega-report like this.

I frequent El Centro and think the dangers tend to be exaggerated. I've been at places like Barra Ejecutiva until 2 or 3 in the morning many, many times, and I've never seen shit get out of hand. Glad you braved the area and had a good time. The bareback thing is kinda wild. I mean, I hate condoms as much as the next guy, but BBFS with coke-addicted SWs? Haha, damn, to each his own.

Wolf662
02-11-19, 18:38
but BBFS with coke-addicted SWs? Haha, damn, to each his own.I have found the SW's to be less coke heads then the strippers, out of a dozen or so not one had any habits other then weed. I had a stripper leave some in my room and I couldn't give it away to the SW's. Many of the Fase II and some of the Centro strippers were doing and offering me coke though. I don't think most the SW make enough money for that. The druggies there hang in front of the church and huff glue. I don't think they are welcome on the main strip.

YippieKayay
02-11-19, 20:05
I mean, I hate condoms as much as the next guy, but BBFS with coke-addicted SWsTo be fair cocaine doesn't give you HIV or any other STD on its own. Dirty needles can most definitely transmit HIV. According to the unaids website 1 in 100 Colombian prostitutes are believed to be HIV positive based on their current data. Those odds aren't too bad. I'd say its probably a little higher in centro Medellin.

If you're fucking fine with a condom on you should continue. I haven't in some time but as I mentioned before I go with fewer partners per year these days.

Tasss
02-12-19, 01:34
The bareback thing is kinda wild. I mean, I hate condoms as much as the next guy, but BBFS with coke-addicted SWs? Haha, damn, to each his own.Thanks man. Well regarding the drug addicts, cocaine is sniffed and not injected like heroin. Among drug users, HIV transmission comes from shared needles. So that girl I saw who's super thin, I felt she was possibly on heroin, meth or something similar so I didn't partake. A lot of heroin users also have skin issues, which is another warning sign. It wasn't severe but it was enough for me to be wary. If they're only doing coke or other sniffed drugs they're not that high risk.

Orgasmico
02-12-19, 01:46
Stopped by a new casa for me today. There were about 9 chicas. They all were doable. I picked Sofia. Cute face, big bootie, nice size boobs. The facility is spacious and plays loud music with a party vibe. Sofia told me guys come to drink, hangout and talk to the ladies whether taking one or not. This place has some of the biggest rooms I've ever seen in a casa and is very spacious. The session went well. 20 mil tip for BBBJ, which she did pretty well. Licked my balls and the whole nine. Sex was good. I started rubbing her clit while hitting it back door and she took over rubbing it when I stopped to focus on other things. Busted a nice wad. The cost for 30 min was 46 mil. I think the name of the place was Encuentros.

The Tall Man
02-12-19, 02:55
Stopped by a new casa for me today. There were about 9 chicas. They all were doable. I picked Sofia. Cute face, big bootie, nice size boobs. The facility is spacious and plays loud music with a party vibe. Sofia told me guys come to drink, hangout and talk to the ladies whether taking one or not. This place has some of the biggest rooms I've ever seen in a casa and is very spacious. The session went well. 20 mil tip for BBBJ, which she did pretty well. Licked my balls and the whole nine. Sex was good. I started rubbing her clit while hitting it back door and she took over rubbing it when I stopped to focus on other things. Busted a nice wad. The cost for 30 min was 46 mil. I think the name of the place was Encuentros.Location? Sounds like it could be a cool place to enjoy a drink and hang out with little to no pressure picking a chica.

The Tall Man.

Mr Enternational
02-12-19, 03:17
Many of the Fase II and some of the Centro strippers were doing and offering me coke though. I don't think most the SW make enough money for that.I don't think the SW are doing it either, but they can probably afford it. A chick at the strip club in Bogota told me it was only 10K for the gram that she had.

Blklouky
02-12-19, 03:49
Stopped by a new casa for me today. There were about 9 chicas. They all were doable. I picked Sofia. Cute face, big bootie, nice size boobs. The facility is spacious and plays loud music with a party vibe. Sofia told me guys come to drink, hangout and talk to the ladies whether taking one or not. This place has some of the biggest rooms I've ever seen in a casa and is very spacious. The session went well. 20 mil tip for BBBJ, which she did pretty well. Licked my balls and the whole nine. Sex was good. I started rubbing her clit while hitting it back door and she took over rubbing it when I stopped to focus on other things. Busted a nice wad. The cost for 30 min was 46 mil. I think the name of the place was Encuentros.Can you give us the address?

Orgasmico
02-12-19, 03:58
Location? Sounds like it could be a cool place to enjoy a drink and hang out with little to no pressure picking a chica.

The Tall Man.Calle 49 #43-68.

Norbert61
02-12-19, 05:45
I hate when people come on forums and only ask for info. So I am sorry. It has been about 3 years since I was last in MDE. What is the going rate for FB girls and / or girls in the Mansion.

Mr Enternational
02-12-19, 06:02
I saw it first in my local news that a singer from my city and fellow alumni from my grad school died in Colombia. I did a search to see where it had happened and it was not in Centro Meddelin!

LOS hechos ocurrieron hacia la 1:20 pm Del 7 de febrero en las calles del barrio El Poblado de Medellíand, un barrio de clase alta de la ciudad, segúand el secretario de Seguridad de Medellíand, Andrés Tobóand, quien dijo que la muerte de Legarda se dio por una bala perdida por una confrontacióand con armas de fuego por un robo.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/local-latin-musician-former-gsu-student-killed-stray-bullet-colombia/dduu2mdb9PJirnX3aAmI8O/

https://elcomercio.pe/luces/musica/legarda-muerte-cerebral-reggaetonero-colombiano-herido-robo-medellin-noticia-605482

MedellinGringo
02-12-19, 07:12
I saw it first in my local news that a singer from my city and fellow alumni from my grad school died in Colombia. I did a search to see where it had happened and it was not in Centro Meddelin!

LOS hechos ocurrieron hacia la 1:20 pm Del 7 de febrero en las calles del barrio El Poblado de Medelland, un barrio de clase alta de la ciudad, segand el secretario de Seguridad de Medelland, Andrs Toband, quien dijo que la muerte de Legarda se dio por una bala perdida por una confrontaciand con armas de fuego por un robo.

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/local-latin-musician-former-gsu-student-killed-stray-bullet-colombia/dduu2mdb9PJirnX3aAmI8O/

https://elcomercio.pe/luces/musica/legarda-muerte-cerebral-reggaetonero-colombiano-herido-robo-medellin-noticia-605482What are the odds of one stray bullet finding a gringo in Poblado. Not very high but much higher than any other part of Medellin.

Baudelairemod
02-12-19, 08:57
I have found the SW's to be less coke heads then the strippers, out of a dozen or so not one had any habits other then weed. I had a stripper leave some in my room and I couldn't give it away to the SW's. Many of the Fase II and some of the Centro strippers were doing and offering me coke though. I don't think most the SW make enough money for that. The druggies there hang in front of the church and huff glue. I don't think they are welcome on the main strip.


Thanks man. Well regarding the drug addicts, cocaine is sniffed and not injected like heroin. Among drug users, HIV transmission comes from shared needles. So that girl I saw who's super thin, I felt she was possibly on heroin, meth or something similar so I didn't partake. A lot of heroin users also have skin issues, which is another warning sign. It wasn't severe but it was enough for me to be wary. If they're only doing coke or other sniffed drugs they're not that high risk.Both very valid points but I think the main one is: who cares if the girls are "addicted" to coke? I personally found a lot more annoying and irritating the need that some of them have to smoke a joint every five minutes. Last time I was there quite a few of the really young girls were into Tusi (or pink cocaine - https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/pink-cocaine-new-mystery-drug-hits-buenos-aires-club-scene) which they were saying is great if you're on a night out or at a music festival. I was never bothered by much of it especially seen how it seemed to make them hornier and eager to fuck than usual.

Needless to say I took their word for it as I wasn't going to do bumps of a mysterious substance with some random person. Mind you my girl was saying that it was quite popular with the rich kids (or wannabe rich) as it was COP 50 k /70 k a gram (v 20 k for the normal stuff and I assume even less for weed). Once again maybe she was just trying to get me to buy some but from what I've read it sounds plausible. Either way I told her my party days were over so she dropped it pretty fast.

All I am saying is that I'd be a lot more scared to fuck some glue sniffing junkie or worse a heroin addict (can they even afford heroine in Colombia?

Phunluv
02-12-19, 09:14
What are the odds of one stray bullet finding a gringo in Poblado. Not very high but much higher than any other part of Medellin.Wow. . . If I'm reading the Spanish news article correctly, this kid was killed by a stray bullet after a security guy got involved trying to stop the robbery.

One of the robbers was shot and killed on location and the other was shot and injured and fled, but was captured a short while later. It's not clear to me from the article if the stray bullet that killed Legarda was fired from the robbers or the security guy.

If the latter, that's even more messed up, but typically Colombian!

Also, I would not be surprised if the local MDE authorities are trying to suppress some of the facts in this incident (like if it was the security guy's bullet that killed this kid).

Maybe I'm too cynical, I hope I'm wrong. But it's an important reminder: should you ever get mugged in MDE or BOG by an armed guy, just give him the money you have and get out of the situation / area as quickly as possible. The longer the situation lasts, the greater the chance something will go horribly wrong.

PaisaPorFavor
02-12-19, 10:22
Good report man. Just didn't want to quote the longer one so messaging here. Funny to see Veronica Rodriguez mentioned. I was just discussing with another member about meeting up with her.


Yes. The one friend I referred to on Day 12 is Judd, who's a regular poster here in the MDE forums. We hung out quite a few times. The English speaking girl from Day 4 was also good company and I met her twice. Almost a third time but she had a scheduling issue. Some other girls are also cool with just hanging out at my place, drinking, getting food, and watching TV with a bit of Google Translate here and there. Not everyone is so patient though, I can feel some girls have a schedule and they need to be somewhere else, and if I see that I limit my small talk and get on with the session..

Orgasmico
02-12-19, 14:42
LOS hechos ocurrieron hacia la 1:20 pm Del 7 de febrero en las calles del barrio El Poblado de Medelland, un barrio de clase alta de la ciudad, segand el secretario de Seguridad de Medelland, Andrs Toband, quien dijo que la muerte de Legarda se dio por una bala perdida por una confrontaciand con armas de fuego por un robo.
On Sunday, I was riding my bike past La Macarena on my way downtown. As I was approaching the venue, I saw a bunch of white balloons being released into the sky. It was a beautiful site. As I got closer, I saw a crowd of mostly girls holding more white balloons and even more girls were converging at the location. Some of the girls also had signs of a young guy. Probably the murder victim. I didn't realize the significance of the balloons and just thought another artist was coming to perform at the venue.

I thought about going over there and talking to some of the chicas or at least taking a pic of the view but decided instead to keep it moving.

Even more crazy, I think this guy and his crew were on the same flight as me a couple of weeks ago when I went to La Feria de Manizales.

John Gault
02-12-19, 15:57
Thanks man. Well regarding the drug addicts, cocaine is sniffed and not injected like heroin. Among drug users, HIV transmission comes from shared needles. So that girl I saw who's super thin, I felt she was possibly on heroin, meth or something similar so I didn't partake. A lot of heroin users also have skin issues, which is another warning sign. It wasn't severe but it was enough for me to be wary. If they're only doing coke or other sniffed drugs they're not that high risk.Not exactly true. While most user do sniff it coke is injected by some.

YippieKayay
02-12-19, 23:34
He was drugged, his accounts were drained, and then murdered and left in the foot hills:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4917869/sfu-professor-killed-in-colombia-arrests-tinder/amp/

And yeah he found the chica on tinder. Be careful!

Orgasmico
02-13-19, 00:31
He was drugged, his accounts were drained, and then murdered and left in the foot hills:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4917869/sfu-professor-killed-in-colombia-arrests-tinder/amp/

And yeah he found the chica on tinder. Be careful!Yep, the gangs and thieves are increasingly using sites like Cupid and Tinder to set up robberies. There has definitely been more of these events in the news the last several months.

Jbj64
02-13-19, 01:52
I was getting ready to write a report of mt first 10 days and this time I used CC and tinder. Where in the past used SA and have had 3 tinder dates and went well. Found a gem on CC who has been doing everything bareback. More later.


Yep, the gangs and thieves are increasingly using sites like Cupid and Tinder to set up robberies. There has definitely been more of these events in the news the last several months.

Orgasmico
02-13-19, 02:18
I was getting ready to write a report of mt first 10 days and this time I used CC and tinder. Where in the past used SA and have had 3 tinder dates and went well. Found a gem on CC who has been doing everything bareback. More later.Haha that sounds great. Look forward to your report.

PolloNegro
02-13-19, 09:56
Here's a safety note. This is something that I use, I always bring my girl back to my room. I set my room up, I know what's in my room. I know what I put in my room and where I placed things within my room. Many members have asked me the location to Casas and I just don't know where the casa's are and I never have sex in the Casa's. I hear too many mishaps in the Casa, the girl took too long to shower, the manager knocked before 30 minutes, the girl wouldn't allow me to fully penetrate her. My biggest withdrawal from the casa's is the fact that most of them will not allow me any photo's. I keep a strict log of every chic I bang, that's why when I find one who I like, I may keep her around all day or for several days.

Each member has his own reason for mongering, but don't come to me and tell me that you had a unicorn and she was this and that, and you have no pics. Even worse, don't tell me about how horrible a girl was and you have no pics, but you continue to recommend the Casa where she works, WTF? I receive so many contradictory messages that I can't begin to start with what I believe and what I don't. I will not recommend a girl and not have a pic, and not the girl's facebook pic, That's funny to me. I am a die hard monger, I ask for what I want and make a offer, all the girl can say is yes or no, but I do not go into a situation where I am paying someone for service and afraid to ask for what I desire.

Let me tell you something I have noticed from messages that I have received and photo's that I have received from several members. If you want a girl next door and one who doesn't look like a hooker you should specifically say that this is the kind of girl that you desire. I see many facebook photo's of girls that want your money, but don't want the exposure of taking personal pics. If you think that you are getting a upscale girl who denies photos then have at it. Its your money, spend it how you desire, but I am getting pics and videos for my money, I keep a log, that's just my preference. Personally I have always stayed away from closet hookers, either you are or you're not. Maybe this is why I like Centro so much, Veracruz is full of hookers. They are there to earn money regardless, that's the spirit of a street girl that I like.

Each monger has his own desires and his own wants, but what I can tell you is this, if you are not keeping a log and you are asking for help then you are just leeching off of the members who monger and retrieve information and numbers and photo's. Biggest safety tip is take the girls to an environment that you can control. Otherwise you are at the mercy of the casa and the girl who has lured you to that location. At the worst event, you can give the girl 20 mil ask her to leave your room and not have the frustration of having to get dressed and walk to a taxi and fester over a poor performance that you had to pay for, that's just my 2 cents as I have recently communicated with several members who have had very poor service at the Casa's. Your money, your choice, just some friendly advice from a monger's point of view who has made a habit of documenting my encounters via photo's and video. Pollo Negro is out!

Horny Goats
02-13-19, 22:36
I went to this casa for the first time in awhile this afternoon. Around 10 girls, including a handful of new gems. (At least new to me.) Had a very nice session with Angie. 45 K for 30 minutes.

Knowledge
02-13-19, 23:59
Thank you for taking the time to write this. It has nothing to do with safety. It seems to be about your preference for bringing girls to your room instead of going to casas. I'm glad it works for you. It works for some other guys and not so much for some other guys. More often than not, in my opinion, the experience in a room is going to be more comfortable than the experience in a casa. Even the casas where you pay extra for comfortable rooms (Energy, Loutron, Tantra, etc.).

As far as performance, I think the casa management is generally on the side of the customer. The too long in the shower thing can be a problem if guys let it become a problem. The solution is very simple, leave the room and tell the girl to come get you when she is ready. A common New Life trick if you don't let girls chit chat is to try to get you to stay in the room while they shower and straighten up after you're done. They will say, "just a minute, I will walk out with you. " My advice is once you are done, go straight to the cashier unless you have extra cash you need to get rid of. I still don't see what that has to do with safety.


Here's a safety note. This is something that I use, I always bring my girl back to my room. I set my room up, I know what's in my room. I know what I put in my room and where I placed things within my room. Many members have asked me the location to Casas and I just don't know where the casa's are and I never have sex in the Casa's. I hear too many mishaps in the Casa, the girl took too long to shower, the manager knocked before 30 minutes, the girl wouldn't allow me to fully penetrate her. My biggest withdrawal from the casa's is the fact that most of them will not allow me any photo's. I keep a strict log of every chic I bang, that's why when I find one who I like, I may keep her around all day or for several days.

Manizales911
02-14-19, 01:00
Here's a safety note. This is something that I use, I always bring my girl back to my room. I set my room up, I know what's in my room. I know what I put in my room and where I placed things within my room. Many members have asked me the location to Casas and I just don't know where the casa's are and I never have sex in the Casa's. I hear too many mishaps in the Casa, the girl took too long to shower, the manager knocked before 30 minutes, the girl wouldn't allow me to fully penetrate her. My biggest withdrawal from the casa's is the fact that most of them will not allow me any photo's. I keep a strict log of every chic I bang, that's why when I find one who I like, I may keep her around all day or for several days.

Each member has his own reason for mongering, but don't come to me and tell me that you had a unicorn and she was this and that, and you have no pics. Even worse, don't tell me about how horrible a girl was and you have no pics, but you continue to recommend the Casa where she works, WTF? I receive so many contradictory messages that I can't begin to start with what I believe and what I don't. I will not recommend a girl and not have a pic, and not the girl's facebook pic, That's funny to me. I am a die hard monger, I ask for what I want and make a offer, all the girl can say is yes or no, but I do not go into a situation where I am paying someone for service and afraid to ask for what I desire.

Let me tell you something I have noticed from messages that I have received and photo's that I have received from several members. If you want a girl next door and one who doesn't look like a hooker you should specifically say that this is the kind of girl that you desire. I see many facebook photo's of girls that want your money, but don't want the exposure of taking personal pics. If you think that you are getting a upscale girl who denies photos then have at it. Its your money, spend it how you desire, but I am getting pics and videos for my money, I keep a log, that's just my preference. Personally I have always stayed away from closet hookers, either you are or you're not. Maybe this is why I like Centro so much, Veracruz is full of hookers. They are there to earn money regardless, that's the spirit of a street girl that I like.

Each monger has his own desires and his own wants, but what I can tell you is this, if you are not keeping a log and you are asking for help then you are just leeching off of the members who monger and retrieve information and numbers and photo's. Biggest safety tip is take the girls to an environment that you can control. Otherwise you are at the mercy of the casa and the girl who has lured you to that location. At the worst event, you can give the girl 20 mil ask her to leave your room and not have the frustration of having to get dressed and walk to a taxi and fester over a poor performance that you had to pay for, that's just my 2 cents as I have recently communicated with several members who have had very poor service at the Casa's. Your money, your choice, just some friendly advice from a monger's point of view who has made a habit of documenting my encounters via photo's and video. Pollo Negro is out!I'm not a casa guy myself but for a different reason and that is I don't like sessioning onsite and am not a 30-60 minute kind of guy either. That said, casas are generally one of the safest places to have sex with a hooker. How many reports are there of guys being drugged and robbed and / or killed in a casa, I've never heard of one. All of the horror stories are of dumb assed gringos bringing girls to their apartments and not following known protocol like watching their drinks, not bringing multiple girls, not locking their shit up and just generally bringing the wrong girls back to their apartments.

HappyShiva
02-14-19, 02:31
I am talking with several women on CC, but most of them are in their 40's. Beautiful body and girl next door type. Only problem is that most of them are working and will spend only a weekend with me, which is better for me. I can monger rest of the time, but they are very possessive and think of me as their future husband.

Knowledge
02-14-19, 03:15
Nice rooms too.


I went to this casa for the first time in awhile this afternoon. Around 10 girls, including a handful of new gems. (At least new to me.) Had a very nice session with Angie. 45 K for 30 minutes.

Knowledge
02-14-19, 03:17
Yes, yes, yes, and yes.


I'm not a casa guy myself but for a different reason and that is I don't like sessioning onsite and am not a 30-60 minute kind of guy either. That said, casas are generally one of the safest places to have sex with a hooker. How many reports are there of guys being drugged and robbed and / or killed in a casa, I've never heard of one. All of the horror stories are of dumb assed gringos bringing girls to their apartments and not following known protocol like watching their drinks, not bringing multiple girls, not locking their shit up and just generally bringing the wrong girls back to their apartments.

PolloNegro
02-14-19, 03:24
Thank you for taking the time to write this. It has nothing to do with safety. It seems to be about your preference for bringing girls to your room instead of going to casas. I'm glad it works for you. It works for some other guys and not so much for some other guys. More often than not, in my opinion, the experience in a room is going to be more comfortable than the experience in a casa. Even the casas where you pay extra for comfortable rooms (Energy, Loutron, Tantra, etc.).

As far as performance, I think the casa management is generally on the side of the customer. The too long in the shower thing can be a problem if guys let it become a problem. The solution is very simple, leave the room and tell the girl to come get you when she is ready. A common New Life trick if you don't let girls chit chat is to try to get you to stay in the room while they shower and straighten up after you're done. They will say, "just a minute, I will walk out with you. " My advice is once you are done, go straight to the cashier unless you have extra cash you need to get rid of. I still don't see what that has to do with safety.Many members have recently informed me of the terrible service the casa girls have been providing and even after complaining to management, the customer was told he still has to pay, even if the service was subpar. The safety issue is this, if you decide to raise hell about your pesos's you're at the mercy of the establishment, whereas if she comes to your room, you can give her taxi fair and send her on her way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the tool box but you are damn sure at a disadvantage when you disrobe in an unfamiliar environment IE, casa, but I clearly see it is seen as a preference. Not one member who has voiced a recent complaint said to me, this poor service occurred at my room and I still had to pay her. Maybe its the thrill for those who use casas's, I like using the room in which I set up, not the one that was set up for me to use. All is fair, and understood! Pollo negro is out!

Mr Enternational
02-14-19, 03:49
I am talking with several women on CC, but most of them are in their 40's. Beautiful body and girl next door type. Only problem is that most of them are working and will spend only a weekend with me, which is better for me. I can monger rest of the time, but they are very possessive and think of me as their future husband.Actually the game has changed. You will be lucky if any of those broads show up. I have been on Cupid since 2005. Used to be that 10 out of 10 would show up. These days if 1 out of 10 show then it is good.

The other day I had chicks from Cupid lined up in Medellin. One chick even wanted the hotel address and room number. Said she would be there at a certain time. NOPE! Other chicks went dark. Delete. Other chicks had excuses. Delete. Actually I ended up meeting ZERO chicks from Cupid the four days I was there. The online chicks that I did meet were ones from Tinder that actually came the day after we first started talking.

And it was the same shit in Peru the week before. The only Cupid chick that came was one that I only said 2 sentences to the day before. She said I can't come today because I work in the morning, but I can come after work tomorrow. She showed up the next day and ended up staying with me. And might I add the week before that in Brazil, SAME FUCKING THING. 1 chick showed up. I am seeing the trend that if you talk to chicks way ahead of time trying to get to know them, they don't show up. The ones you start talking to when you have boots on the ground are the ones that are showing up. And these are all non-pros.

JjBee62
02-14-19, 12:15
Many members have recently informed me of the terrible service the casa girls have been providing and even after complaining to management, the customer was told he still has to pay, even if the service was subpar. The safety issue is this, if you decide to raise hell about your pesos's you're at the mercy of the establishment, whereas if she comes to your room, you can give her taxi fair and send her on her way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the tool box but you are damn sure at a disadvantage when you disrobe in an unfamiliar environment IE, casa, but I clearly see it is seen as a preference. Not one member who has voiced a recent complaint said to me, this poor service occurred at my room and I still had to pay her. Maybe its the thrill for those who use casas's, I like using the room in which I set up, not the one that was set up for me to use. All is fair, and understood! Pollo negro is out!Safety= protecting your health, property and general well-being.

Not safety= fucking in your room because you get a better fuck that way.

Casas= places where you pay to have sex with a woman. The casa is responsible to provide you with a. A woman, be. A room. The woman is responsible to provide you with sex. Nowhere in there is a requirement it will be the best sex of your life. Nowhere does it say the girl must do everything you ask. Nowhere does it say you have to enjoy it. And nowhere does it say you have to ever return. They provide, you pay.

Now if anyone is telling you that they went to a casa, had sex, weren't happy with the sex and then argued with management about paying, they are an idiot. You should advise them never to leave their home and if they can afford it, to hire someone to keep them from doing stupid things. The time to complain about the girl is before, not after the sex.

Now to the heart of your "safety" issue: Being able to not pay a woman, who you agreed to pay, because you're not satisfied with the way she fucked. You think this is a good idea in your room? Go find the whiny casa guy and see if he can recommend someone to keep you from doing stupid shit.

Once you take a girl to your room, the safe move is to keep your end of the bargain. If you told her 100 k, then she should come out with 100 k. If she wasn't up to your standards, it's because you did a poor job of picking a girl. If you can't figure out which one is going to be fun in bed by now, you should hang it up. Instead, you try to blame her and punish her for your poor judgement.

The reason why you keep your end of the bargain is because she has friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her. All you've got is money and some people around you, who enjoy money. You kick enough girls out because they won't follow your script and eventually you'll end up being just another news story that will panic the gringos for a few days.

I've done the casas. I've done plenty of girls in my apartment. For good measure, I've done plenty of girls in love motels. I've had a few experiences that didn't meet my requirements. So I paid the girl, sent her on her way and learned from the experience. I learned how to look at a casa girl and tell if she's just going to go through the motions, or if she's going to make a real effort. In the rare case where I'm wrong, I paid 50 k for average sex with an above average looking girl. That's cheaper than having 2 beers with someone who is going to shut you down at her door. I'll take the loss.

If you want to talk about safety, talk about safety. If you want to talk about taking pictures of the girls you fuck, talk about that. If you want to talk about why you like fucking in your room. But if you want to talk about casa experiences, maybe you should first get some casa experience.

Horny Goats
02-14-19, 16:02
Nice rooms too.Yes, spacious and clean.

Turgid
02-14-19, 16:33
................... A common New Life trick if you don't let girls chit chat is to try to get you to stay in the room while they shower and straighten up after you're done. They will say, "just a minute, I will walk out with you. " My advice is once you are done, go straight to the cashier unless you have extra cash you need to get rid of............Lets say a girl gives me poor service in a casa and I don't climax I then abort the session, put on my clothes and leave the room. Girls in FKKs in Germany hate that but I've never encountered a casa girl who protested. If the casa girl gives me good service I have no problem with her taking her sweet time in the shower and to straighten up afterwards. She may not get a propina though if, for example, her extra time took the session from a 45 minute one to one hour.

PolloNegro
02-14-19, 21:03
Safety= protecting your health, property and general well-being.

Not safety= fucking in your room because you get a better fuck that way.

Casas= places where you pay to have sex with a woman. The casa is responsible to provide you with a. A woman, be. A room. The woman is responsible to provide you with sex. Nowhere in there is a requirement it will be the best sex of your life. Nowhere does it say the girl must do everything you ask. Nowhere does it say you have to enjoy it. And nowhere does it say you have to ever return. They provide, you pay.

Now if anyone is telling you that they went to a casa, had sex, weren't happy with the sex and then argued with management about paying, they are an idiot. You should advise them never to leave their home and if they can afford it, to hire someone to keep them from doing stupid things. The time to complain about the girl is before, not after the sex.

Now to the heart of your "safety" issue: Being able to not pay a woman, who you agreed to pay, because you're not satisfied with the way she fucked. You think this is a good idea in your room? Go find the whiny casa guy and see if he can recommend someone to keep you from doing stupid shit.

Once you take a girl to your room, the safe move is to keep your end of the bargain. If you told her 100 k, then she should come out with 100 k. If she wasn't up to your standards, it's because you did a poor job of picking a girl. If you can't figure out which one is going to be fun in bed by now, you should hang it up. Instead, you try to blame her and punish her for your poor judgement..If you lived in Medellin and not just visited I could take the rebuttal serious. You are just like the others who try and use fear tactics to scare new mongers. Safety is knowing your environment. What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends. We all have them, they don't enhance or make the experience better or worse. Back to the topic of safety, disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. As for scaring me, I was in centro 17 times in 2018, I'm the last monger to strike fear into through a post. I love all the great post from board members that never provide other members anything but a great story, there's a reason photos are worth a thousand words. Imagine photoprepagos without any photos, all is fair and understood! Pollo negro is out!

PolloNegro
02-14-19, 21:50
You must readily recognize the fear tactics and those who are settling for poor service due to so called nationality. As one member said, The reason why you keep your end of the bargain is because she has friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her. All you've got is money and some people around you, who enjoy money. You kick enough girls out because they won't follow your script and eventually you'll end up being just another news story that will panic the gringos for a few days.

Unless you have been a News story, why do fellow board members do this? Clearly you have no idea how negotiations work and how a deal works. I don't care if I'm in south Afghanistan with Bin Laden's brother and hand grenade, if you agree to a deal with me and chose to not carry out the agreement, you will not be paid, I don't care if you have, "friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect you!' Clearly someone in Medellin has either smashed your head, or scared you enough to make you post what you post. Money talks in Medellin, and we all know how board members bash other board members about speaking about money, but according to you, it is clear, that as an American in Medellin, we are only subject to the treatment the girls chooses to give us, and we must still pay her a said amount because she had "friends, brothers, cousins, uncles and a whole network of people who want to protect her." and you wonder why the girls take advantage of mongers like you? Pollo Negro is out!

Balboa
02-15-19, 01:05
... I've done the casas. I've done plenty of girls in my apartment. For good measure, I've done plenty of girls in love motels. I've had a few experiences that didn't meet my requirements. So I paid the girl, sent her on her way and learned from the experience. I learned how to look at a casa girl and tell if she's just going to go through the motions, or if she's going to make a real effort. In the rare case where I'm wrong, I paid 50 k for average sex with an above average looking girl. That's cheaper than having 2 beers with someone who is going to shut you down at her door. I'll take the loss ...
Good common sense advice here, opposed to bragging and blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure the Secret Service guy wishes he would've just paid up.

Eventually your actions will catch up to you.
Maybe not today, tomorrow or next week, but eventually they will.

Just use common sense.

Balboa out!

JjBee62
02-15-19, 02:32
If you lived in Medellin and not just visited I could take the rebuttal serious. You are just like the others who try and use fear tactics to scare new mongers. Safety is knowing your environment. What does me kicking several girls out have to do with them having cousins, brothers & friends. We all have them, they don't enhance or make the experience better or worse. Back to the topic of safety, disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk. As for scaring me, I was in centro 17 times in 2018, I'm the last monger to strike fear into through a post. I love all the great post from board members that never provide other members anything but a great story, there's a reason photos are worth a thousand words. Imagine photoprepagos without any photos, all is fair and understood! Pollo negro is out!I lived in Medellin for 354 consecutive days, which I've stated before. I'm now back in the US, which has nothing to do with the points I made. That time started April 8, 2017 and ended March 28,2018. In 2018 alone, in less than 3 months I was in El Centro at least 75 times. I went there nearly every day, sometimes twice a day. I've been all over El Centro, from El Mirador down to the river. Between late July 2017 and when I left I probably walked 400 miles or more in El Centro. I even rode my bike through El Centro a few times. I've taken a lot of mongers and even a few Colombians and given them tours of El Centro. My last night in Medellin, I spent, until after midnight, 50' below the warzone above El Centro, hanging with some Colombian friends at their house. They all walked with me far enough down the hill to catch a taxi, because taxis won't go there at night. Now are you ready to take the rebuttal serious?

I don't try to scare new mongers. I also don't recommend they do stupid things. Quite the opposite. I've told a lot of guys how to get around in El Centro. I've also told them to find their own comfort zone. If El Centro freaks them out, they can go somewhere else. I don't try to force them to like El Centro, or to do things they aren't comfortable with.

Disrobing in an unfamiliar environment is always a risk? Always? You must be terrified of doctor's offices. For your sake, I hope you never join a gym. Oh the horror!

Disrobing in a casa is safer than disrobing in your own room. Why? Because the casa has to protect the patrons. How long would New Life be around if the girls were robbing the customers? How long would they be in business if they are letting guys in to rob and murder the customers? It's also safer because you've limited your risk. The girl isn't going to steal your laptop, or the 800 k pesos you've got stashed in your room. She's not going to drug you and clean you out. She's not going to pull out a straight razor and try to slash your throat. The only risk you face is that she'll either be lousy in bed, or she'll waste some time and you'll pay an extra $4.

The reason why it matters that every one of these girls has lots of friends and family, is that you're just another gringo. If you bring a girl to your room and then refuse to pay her because you found fault with her, she's not likely to just accept the constructive criticism. If she finds herself stuck, because she had promised the money, you agreed to pay, to someone else, she's going to call someone, crying for help. If she cries loud enough, then someone might decide you need to pay up, one way or another. It happens a few times a year in Medellin. If you're kicking out several girls, because you haven't learned how to pick them, you're eventually going to meet up with a pissed off Colombian.

No gringo ever gets killed in a casa. Gringos either get killed on the street, or in their room.

I'm not saying don't take girls to your room. I'm saying, if you make a deal with a girl, stick to the deal. Don't try to shame her. Don't try to kick her out without paying her. Give her the money and make a note not to call her again. You're out $30? $50? You're the guy who claimed to have unlimited money. Surely you can handle the cost of a meal at a decent US restaurant. If it happens in a casa, don't argue for a refund. Pay the fee and then mention the issue to the manager. Show respect, be polite and it will go a long way.

I don't provide pictures to other mongers, because a picture is worthless. You just proved that in the Bogota thread. You see a couple pictures of girls that are about average and suddenly, you're thinking you need to go to Bogota. Those pictures won't tell you anything about how those girls will respond to you. More importantly, they won't tell you where to find those girls 3 months from now.

Photosprepagos is an ad site. The girls advertising there are looking for customers. Those pictures tell you very little. Hold that picture up to your nose. Does that pussy smell clean? What about the ass? Can that picture handle a real deep throat, or is it just going to take 4 inches? Does that picture fuck like it hasn't had good dick for 3 years, or does the picture just lay there and make fake moaning noises? Was that picture taken last week, or 2 years ago? The pictures are nice to look at. That's all. You're going to have a lot of disappointing experiences if you're choosing based solely on looks, even more if you're going just off of pictures.

The only good thing about pictures is that a lot of people who will never go to Colombia, will pay for a membership so they can see pictures of the girls they'll never fuck.

I don't write many reviews on individual girls. I have no desire to be a pimp. Nobody is paying me to advertise. I'm not getting a discount because 7 mongers hit someone up after I wrote a review. Even if I did, it's next to useless to most guys. Do they smell clean? Did they brush their teeth and put on deodorant? Are they wearing clean clothes? Do they understand the concept of manscaping? Will they treat the girl the way I treat her? Will they look like me? Will they fuck like me? If the answer to all these questions isn't yes, then why would you expect her to fuck like she's with me?

YMMV. Learn it. Accept it.

Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. I answer questions. I direct people to resources that they need. I share with them the knowledge I gained. I don't give them WhatsApp numbers of girls who might want nothing to do with them. I might, in rare cases, give a number for one girl, to one guy, but only after asking the girl if she's interested. It keeps him from wasting her time, her from wasting his time and both of them from griping at me and wasting my time. In other cases, I might recommend a contact to help with a specific thing.

Mostly, I try to tell guys how to make the most of their visit. Not by doing things the way I do them, but by finding the way that works best for them.

I'll repeat one last thing. If you want to talk about all the problems with casas, first go to some casas. Don't be badmouthing some place you've never seen, all because some guy says he had a bad time there.

Baudelairemod
02-15-19, 09:00
In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.

Didn't quite get what the whole pictures argument was about. Are we now saying that unless somebody has pictures, we won't believe him? Surely we're not teenagers anymore who need to have proof of our sexual prowess? Come on guys!

Just take pictures with the camera in your mind and hope you don't get Alzheimer!

WindAngel
02-15-19, 12:39
Good common sense advice here, opposed to bragging and blah blah blah.

I'm pretty sure the Secret Service guy wishes he would've just paid up.

Eventually your actions will catch up to you.
Maybe not today, tomorrow or next week, but eventually they will.

Just use common sense.Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?

Mr Enternational
02-15-19, 14:32
In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not. I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.

Orgasmico
02-15-19, 14:40
In my opinion there is little difference from fucking in a casa (where the overall business model is built around your safety and the client busting a nut) and your own house (here you might know the layout better). Unless you have amazing security or are staying at the mansion where you can leave your money in the open and (almost) not worry, both options present a degree of safety and risk.
Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her. Not saying this is full proof, but it may be better than relying on the totally unknown of SOME internet situations and random street workers.

TriFreak1
02-15-19, 15:18
Been lurking for some time now, even tried to pay and join but I'm in the states. I'm in the midst of planning my maiden voyage to Medellin. I was targeting the week around Colombian independence day. Would this be a good or bad time to go? When I lived in Miami I wouldn't miss the Colombian independence day festival they'd have every year always was a blast applying same logic here. I'm fluent in Spanish so no language barriers. In reading the reports I'm not really a casa or strip club type. I plan my mongering to be in Vera Cruz and surrounding areas or FB girls, building a really nice list so far. I want to be closer to the action so can you guys recommend some chica friendly hotels in or around Centro, preferably ones who check ID's at the front and have safes in the rooms, as I plan on bringing them back to my place. For the be careful it's not safe etc I appreciate the concern but I've been to Peru, Thailand and Sousa always to my room never had an issue. I've moved around in some really sketchy place here in the hood and abroad only takes one time but some people can move around in that environment if you grew up in it. Not trying to take unnecessary risk and respect the not so nice areas just not going to keep me fully out of my mining for them little gold nuggets. Thanks in advance for any and all information / comments good or bad. I'm a big boy and welcome another point of view.

Turgid
02-15-19, 17:33
I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful.

"Instead of writing stories, or telling everyone how incredible I am, I give advice. " Priceless by JjBee62. I have been tempted to press the ignore button on these guys especially one in particular who has thousands of posts but have not so far, I suppose one has to enjoy the good and suffer the bad as in everything else.

JjBee62
02-15-19, 17:39
Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?If you didn't clarify it with her first, then it's your mistake. If a girl at Gusto tells you "tres cientos", the proper response is "pesos?

Common sense says that you clear up any confusion before there's a problem. You clearly already know that it's possible the girl means dollars and not pesos. Why would you take her to the elevator, without making sure you're both talking the same currency?

YippieKayay
02-15-19, 18:26
Been lurking for some time now, even tried to pay and join but I'm in the states. I'm in the midst of planning my maiden voyage to Medellin. I was targeting the week around Colombian independence day. Would this be a good or bad time to go? When I lived in Miami I wouldn't miss the Colombian independence day festival they'd have every year always was a blast applying same logic here. Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends. Not the best time but not necessarily the worst. Worst is Easter or Christmas.

LoveItHere69
02-15-19, 18:35
My buddy has 15+ years experience. We go to a bar with girls on stage. He sees the skinny type he likes. He stares at her and she looks away or even turns away. He smiles and no smile back. He tries to talk with her and she does not answer half his questions and her answers are very short. But still he buys her a drink and sometimes even bar fines these girls. Only on rare occasions can he just stop and talk to a street girl. No social skills what so ever. He carries himself like a tourist and they spot him a mile away. Sadly there are a bunch of these guys out there. They are the ones that can not sense a bad situation. These are the guys that the girls "test" more often by giving less performance, stealing small things, etc. Since there is less chance of a newbie tourist type foreigner complaining versus a regular tourist visitor who knows the game.

Rarely ever do I share girl contacts. I had a guy I met that had been playing in many countries for years. He asked me if I ever tried to renegotiate for a lower price with a girl once I got her into the room. I went off on him about how stupid that was and why. Never talked to him again.

Chicafan
02-15-19, 20:08
Generally during holidays and festivals the chicas are with their families and boyfriends.Reminds me of a joke a friend likes to tell to illustrate what he says is all you need to know about Latin women.

Girl says to her girlfriend "I think my boyfriend is cheating on me". The girfriend pauses, looks curiously at her, then asks "which boyfriend?


I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do.I am moving in your direction but wish I knew where are more casas. There must be 50 that are essentially hidden to most of us. Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". It has taken me some time and reflection to see that clearly. I get a little frustrate if a girls says 7, which becomes 8 then arrives at 9. There have been days I wanted to relax for the day, see a girl late afternoon, then head out for the night and do whatever strikes me. But when 5 pm becomes 7 I end up wishing I had done a casa or some kind of session early but put it off because I believed I was only hours away from a girl arriving at my apartment. We've all been there.

On my last trip I found a casa girl I really liked and saw her several times. It was so simple. The casa was close and I would message to see if she was available. Those sessions were an hour out of my day instead of the several hours (or more) for a couple hours (at most) with a FB girl.

I would love to know of several casas in each barrio but how would I find out? If I knew several in Bello I would roam around there from time to time.

PolloNegro
02-15-19, 20:41
Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?This is the message several board members are sending and the Colombian feed off of the success they have at doing the least and receiving the most. But as I always say, all is fair and understood! Pollo Negro is Out!

Baudelairemod
02-15-19, 20:49
The difference is ambiance and creature comforts. The girl is no different. Casa has cold water in the shower, room may be too hot, bed may not be as comfortable as you want. You pretty much have to decide if controlling those aspects are worth the 100K or whatever difference in price it would be to have a chick come to you. For me it is generally not.Completely get what you're saying, Mr. E. One needs to obviously know where his comfort ends and what he's willing to put up with. I don't particularly mind the cold showers and the uncomfortable bed as I'm not really going to spend my day there. I am a guy who runs very hot and who starts sweating everytime it goes above 20 see so if anything I welcome a cold shower!


Obviously, a casa can also be the testing ground to determine if a chica is even worthy of you bringing back into your personal space. Also, if you bring a casa chica to your place and something happens at least there is a paper trail back to the casa and people that know her.


Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". As Chicafan and Orgasmico are saying above, I like casas because they're always great hunting grounds to find some nice cute hidden gem (especially in the less travelled ones) to maybe groom for some more 1-on-1. I am also not at all in the whole cuddling thing so I'd have to deal with how kicking them out once done. The casas eliminate all the stress and are a sure thing. Plus who could say no to those lineups?


I deal with a lot of non-pros that will come over and I can get the romance and comfortable sessions in with them. But if someone is only dealing with hookers I can understand paying the price to get them to come for a more comfortable session.Not quite sure what you mean by non-pros but if they're sucking your dick and you're giving them money for it, it generally means they're hookers. Maybe you meant less-jaded ones that do not advertise their services / are in casas / are in the street? Or are you picking up genuine girls in malls and at the gym?

We can obviously spend a lot of time debating this but I think that non-pros should fuck "for free" or at least without any actual currency exchanging hands or anything clearly agreed before hand. I met a girl once on SA in Panama who was at uni and simply wanted to go out with a European guy. I happened to be the right person at the right time. I obviously paid for the meal and drinks but after that we fucked all night and she left quite early in the morning without even daring to ask for any money. In my book that's a non pro!

JjBee62
02-15-19, 21:42
I suppose it boils down to personal preference. I prefer casas. At my age I have passed the stage of spending considerable time with pros. I go, have fun, exit and ultimately retreat to the solace of my room where I do other things that I like. I don't even hangout in the casas where I see so many Americans do. Most times I meet them hanging out, chatting and drinking and when I leave the same guys are there. There are some destinations where I will bring a pro to my room because you will not get them otherwise and that would be Canada and some parts of Asia.

Regarding posting trip reports of specific girls I have found that to be helpful. I don't do it as much as I used to because I've noticed that it is just not done on this board. I do it on FKK boards because everyone else does. I find reports on bad service girls particularly useful..I guess the specific girl reports depends on which end of the pool you're swimming in. There are 40 or 50 very well known chicas that work the gringo market pretty hard. Many are current, or former Mansion regulars, many speak a bit of English and they tend to be higher volume and reasonably consistent performers. With these girls you can read the reviews and have a good idea what a session will be like.

My preference, if I'm not hitting a casa is to find the lower volume girls, who see a gringo as someone different. My experience with them is that it's very unpredictable.

I had the chance to compare notes with a lot of guys. One instance was at a party. About 75 girls and 50-60 gringos. One guy was just collecting numbers, so I pointed out a girl and asked if he had gotten her number. He told me he'd been with her before and she was a starfish, only CBJ, rushed him, wouldn't kiss. Just not worth talking to. However, I'd been with her. We had a session that lasted over 2 hours. She seemed to enjoy every position, no problem with the BBBJ and was great with kissing.

With other girls, guys have gotten the same results as me.

Now with problem girls, I'm in favor of calling them out for real problems. But, if the performance wasn't up to my standards, I'll just keep it to myself unless someone asks. Maybe she was having a bad day. Maybe she wasn't feeling well. Maybe we just weren't compatible. Unless it's a significant issue, I just let it slide.

Balboa
02-16-19, 02:52
Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?Come on man, if you're not bright enough to clear that up beforehand, stay home.

Geeeez.

Mr Enternational
02-16-19, 06:40
Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?You are worrying about nothing. If they do not know how to say another word in English, they definitely know how to say dollars!

WindAngel
02-16-19, 06:51
If you didn't clarify it with her first, then it's your mistake. If a girl at Gusto tells you "tres cientos", the proper response is "pesos?Yes, I know only because I read other member's telling their experience. There are people that don't know Spanish very well. I will be too excited to understand the number girl are telling me, and I would never respond with "peso" if I have not read about other member's experience before.


Common sense says that you clear up any confusion before there's a problem. You clearly already know that it's possible the girl means dollars and not pesos. Why would you take her to the elevator, without making sure you're both talking the same currency?OK, this is where we read PN's post differently. I think he said "negotiated" so he is expecting girl to deliver agreed services. Usually if you can show or tell girl that she agreed, they will do it but they may do it badly. In the case of bad service, I will pay but in the case of non service, I will not pay unless her cousins are already in the room, ha ha, this acutely happened to me once in US. PN does not spell out detail but I think he said paying girl 20 K to get rid of her in one post so I don't think he said not paying completely. 20 K to Centro girl is a reasonable amount, relatively speaking. And how much you pay to get rid of girl is situation dependent.

It is not that I am brave or anything like that. It is because I have been scammed too many times so I learned to stand up for myself. Without getting into detail, I will just use a KTV example. The first time I was scammed, it was like sex sitting on a bench, girl with clothes on sitting on you in reverse cow girl until you finish. They also wanted to charge me for the room after I paid. I had no money left so I got room free. The next time, I demanded to see the girl naked, free room before I paid and was promised no reverse cow girl. When in the room, the girl offered a second girl for $15 more just to extract money from me. Then next time, I asked girl get naked, and kissed before I handed over the money.

Most recently last month, I was lured in because they have a bait that is a 9+, but after sitting with me for a short while, they wanted to give me a girl I didn't want. I learned from my experience so they had not got my money yet. It was entertaining to see they try to offer different girls, like cousins, room mates, in order to get my money. It was Chinese New Year eve so none of the girls were available. I had agreed to pay about 70 USD for full services with many conditions attached. They promised it would be free if I was not happy. In the end, I had a big verbal fight with them, and I offered and paid 35 USD to cover the girls I don't want come sitting with me, drinks, room, snack, to leave. I should not even have to pay the 35 USD. These are places controlled by organized crime so you need to know how to carry yourself and fluent in local language to deal with any confrontation.

What I am saying is, go to Bangkok and pick up random street girls, it is very likely you will pick up a ladyboy, the first time you maybe nice about it and give a tip for her to leave, but by the fifth time, what will be your reaction, still give her the same tip amount or no tip at all?

Just a side note, many Chinese villages are named by last name. The gangs are named by last names. It often was two last names fighting when I saw two gangs fighting in my youth. If I walked on street and stared the wrong people unintentionally, I would got beaten right there. A friend who was 185 cm, very tall by Chinese standard, once told me that people were scared of him because of his height and look but he said to me what others did not know was that he was also scared but he learned not to show it.

Mr Enternational
02-16-19, 06:55
Not quite sure what you mean by non-pros but if they're sucking your dick and you're giving them money for it, it generally means they're hookers. Maybe you meant less-jaded ones that do not advertise their services / are in casas / are in the street? Or are you picking up genuine girls in malls and at the gym?Non-pro. Non-prostitute. Normal chicks that there is no need to give money to.

Wednesday was my last day in Bogota, so I went to a certain mall where I like to have my nails done. I really did not say anything to this chick the entire time. When she finished she asked for my name because she was writing the bill out for the cashier. When she tore out the paper to take it to the cashier I told her I thought you were writing your number for me. She said huh? Then she started writing it down. I got my phone and copied it into my phone to send her a message on whatsapp. I told her that I was leaving the next morning but I would be back soon and we could go out or whatever. She said that would be fine. I left because I had to go meet my nurse chick at another mall.

On the way out I stopped by a burrito place. I was waiting on my food when I noticed the chick from the nail shop across at the other register having already ordered food as well. I said hey what are you doing here? Why you did not tell me your were coming? She said she had not eaten all day and came to get a quick arepa. I said you should have said something and I would have treated you. I told her that we at least need to eat together if we are going to be boyfriend and girlfriend.

While we were eating we were talking getting to know each other. I asked what she liked to do and she said she didn't get much time to do anything because she works from 9 am to 9 pm. I asked how much she makes and she told me that she gets 4,000 pesos for manicure and 6,000 pesos for pedicure. My bill was 42,000, so she only got 10,000 of that. Then I asked who she lived with. She said her husband and kids. I told her if she don't scream, then I won't holler! So I guess that I will see her soon.

WindAngel
02-16-19, 06:59
You are worrying about nothing. If they do not know how to say another word in English, they definitely know how to say dollars!I think a member reported something similar happened to him. I just raise the amount to see what people will respond to make a point. So far, none have said to pay 300 USD.

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02-16-19, 07:01
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