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I have to look up to find who Chloe Khan is, then have to find the year when the picture is taken. She is messed up. I think the picture that you have shown is from an angle that makes her look much better.The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.
IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.
Jessica Rabbit.
The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.
IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.
I don't have any thoughts but the fact as announced by the government (Migracion Colombia) is there is a 30 day deadline beginning the date international departures resume. In other words, if September 1 is the date of the first scheduled commercial flights then you will have to have your immigration status legalized (visa extension, visa application approved, etc.) or leave Colombian territory by October 1. There is a school of thought that discounts the possibility of international departures and arrivals would resume before 2021 but I don't have any thoughts because I stick to facts.
Hi gentlemen,
I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US?
It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while.
But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay.
It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Loki.
It is free to watch people's content on tiktok and bigo to the extent your personal data privacy has no value. Tiktok especially has recently come to be known as one of China's most aggressive MaaS ("malware as a service) exploits. Look it up if you are interested. It makes google look like a responsible privacy advocate by comparison.
Interesting. On Tiktok and Bigo it's free to watch people's content for hours.
I am just looking at WHO and it seems to have a different business model, that you pay coins to speak directly to the chica. Not sure how much they make from it, probably less than half what the coins cost the guy.
By now most here know I am not a fan of El Poblado. A major advantage it offers however is there is noticeably (at least to me) more tolerance toward foreigners from Colombians. There is much less potential for blowback from a slapshot lifestyle in the Poblado towers than there is in even the most upscale barrio towers.
4 penthouses, and I really think there are only 2 rentals in the building. Mine and the penthouse across from me.
My one-month rental in Nov / Dec was at a nice place where the porteros were super cool. I actually walked over there a couple weeks ago to say Hi. They would always call when the girls left, to check on me. In those days, I was going out 6 nights a week. Always in and out. So, it was a very different feel. I was more visible, but at the same time, it was a fairly slow and private feel at the building. Now, I am leaving maybe once a week for groceries. Girls are in and out all the time, but I would imagine more than 50% of the residents have never seen me. Of those that have, maybe half have seen me only with a mask on. Only two residents (one renter), the porteros, and the handyman know which unit I am in. Of course, "the gringo in ____ could be a common conversation, but I doubt more than a couple residents could pick me out of a lineup of gringos. The porteros here call when a girl arrives, I say ok, she comes up. Nothing when she leaves. As of now, that's been nice to have some privacy. Of course, those feelings could change if a chick robbed me, or worse. I do have some sort of comfort because she checks-in on camera, the portero gets a good look, etc.
The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.
IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.I think we don't disagree on the beauty part. The difference is that you think she looks like her picture in person while I don't. When I googled her name, the first picture came up was from X something which was many years ago. It's weird to see the transition from that to the pictures in your post despite that I know they are taken many years apart.
Gringo Trooper
07-19-20, 04:05
I met Leidy when she was 19, so now she is likely 24 (max 25). A few pages ago her Instagram was mentioned.
Being in the game for a long time has clearly changed / damaged her. Back when I first met her she was stunning, already had a nose job and implants, but she was a sight to be seen.
I said I would pay for her taxi, because I thought she lived in Bello.
She pulls up to hotel with her 19 year old Colombian guy friend and I knew he was going to try to scam me for 20 k.
I walked up to his car and called his b S, and said I knew he wasn't a taxi driver.
I paid him because whatever, anyways, once she was chilling in my hotel she admitted that she had her own apartment next to my hotel in el Poblado.
I deleted her number because even though she was a stunner, there's tons more just like her to be found.
As users like TTM, PN and others have explained.
Mr Enternational
07-19-20, 05:46
I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US? It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while. But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay. It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews. Any thoughts?No thoughts needed. You only need to go by what the Colombian government tells you they will allow. Keep your eyes open for information from them. These are not normal times. They will probably give you some kind of amnesty period. Just because the airport is open, does not mean there will be flights to where are from. They understand this.
Mr Enternational
07-19-20, 05:54
I think we don't disagree on the beauty part. The difference is that you think she looks like her picture in person while I don't. When I googled her name, the first picture came up was from X something which was many years ago. It's weird to see the transition from that to the pictures in your post despite that I know they are taken many years apart.You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.
You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.Thanks Mr E. That is the one. Particularly, it is her waist that looks unreal to me in Wolf's pictures.
Why would it make a difference if you are friends with them? They want your money. That's all. Just message them and they will message you back. After a couple of messages switch to whatsapp or not--but there is ZERO need to be friends wit them. I don't know why people 'friend' these girls when everything can be handled via private messages and all of their pictures are usually public anyway.Well, let me put my two cents here, I like my FB friend list, I can choose the girls, it's like a catalog, if you don't friend them you might miss a good one.
Much love and respect to all as we all have a different taste for what floats our boat, mine is the all natural with no plastic nor other surgery's, none to just a few tasteful tattoos, no smoking, great youthful smile with a zeal for life.
Such is the case as my girl from bello shown here. This is what I see when we wake up in the morning. Met her through a friend 3 plus years ago when she was not quite 18 so yes did wait but wow what a birthday celebration it was.
I am still in contact with her to this day and see her much less than before for no other reason is that she is the type of girl you can get feelings for.
The Tall Man.Can I get her number??
Yep. Good ole days. Pre TSA, quick flight to San Diego, or drive down if in LOS Angeles. Train to the border. Walk across, short taxi ride. Eat good and cheap, party with impunity. Go home and snicker at the uppity gringas until the next trip. I was no ugly guy in those days either.Yeah, I miss the 90's before 911, deam terrorists!
PolloNegro
07-19-20, 08:51
Doesn't seem like Spirit will be leaving or arriving in Medellin in Sept, I just looked and the entire month of Sept is already booked, but lets see, they haven't cancelled my flight in Sept as of yet, then again its only July 18, 2020. Let's see how this turns out. Pollo Negro is Out!
The Tall Man
07-19-20, 13:57
I have to look up to find who Chloe Khan is, then have to find the year when the picture is taken. She is messed up. I think the picture that you have shown is from an angle that makes her look much better. I have been checking out apartments to rent. There is a way to make apartment look better and larger. I was going to rent one with large refrigerator until someone reminded me the image is taken in a way to make it look much larger. She reminds me of a blue eye blonde with huge ass I saw many times in Bogota. I actually did not feel her ass was that big until one day I saw her came to work with regular clothing and tennis shoes, her ass looked huge without high heel.
The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.
IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.This is exactly the plastic and surgical woman that I would not fuck even if you paid me, seriously what a disgrace to do this to a woman's body, lips, face, no thank you.
Offer me a choice between this woman and a blow up doll with a hard plastic edged slit cut into the middle of the plastic legs and I would take it instead.
Much love and respect but just getting real here.
The Tall Man.
The majority only in the Western Hemisphere. Which makes sense given that US residents can much easier afford to travel south for pussy than vice versa.
I used to scoff at the sex prison references. But in this pandemic, every country is a sex prison for a single guy. My married friends used to envy me for how much I got laid (and they don't even know about the prepagos in South America). Nowadays, I envy them for their sex lives (at least the ones with attractive wives).Some 15 years ago I met an ex-girlfriend of mine who was married for 10 years at the time. I inquired of her sex life and she told me it consists of her stooping under the computer desk sucking her husbands dick while he watches porn and empties the contents of his testicles into her mouth.
No thoughts needed. You only need to go by what the Colombian government tells you they will allow. Keep your eyes open for information from them. These are not normal times. They will probably give you some kind of amnesty period. Just because the airport is open, does not mean there will be flights to where are from. They understand this.Thanks Mr E.
I bought a SPIRIT ticket back in late May. I have just been re-scheduling it for later dates as flights become available.
I am in NO rush whatsoever to leave the country. I just worry about the repercussions of of overstaying.
Eventually, I know I have to go back and face the reality of reality back home, but for now, I'm grateful for my time here.
The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.
IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.Honestly, she looks like a blow up doll, so perfect!
Thanks Mr E. That is the one. Particularly, it is her waist that looks unreal to me in Wolf's pictures.It's actually similar to this "Chatty Cathy" blow up doll from the Barbie Collection available on line.
Hi gentlemen,
I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US?
It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while.
But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay.
It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Loki.OK you arrived on March 15. Normally (we are NOT in normal) you get a 90 day term for your visit (the stamp in your passport) at the end of 90 days you should be leaving the country. You do have the option to extend for another 90 days by going to Migration Colombia offices and requesting an extension and paying whatever they charge (it's not a lot) and they give you a second 90 day stamp. You are NOT allowed to stay in country for.
More than 180 days during a calendar year. The fines are substantial and they will hold you up at the airport until you pay them.
OK that was the normal procedure.
Migration Colombia offices have been closed during the quarantine. There was a general announcement. Your 90 day tourist visa (the arrival stamp in your passport) was suspended when the quarantine started and.
Until the quarantine officially ends the clock is suspended. I. e. You March 15th entry means you only used 10 days (I don't remember the exact start date of the quarantine but it was around March 25th) it has been extended several times. So until it ends the clock is shut down. You obviously can stay through the rest of this year. And then in 2021 you get a new 180 days.
As to the international airport opening on September 1st. Well that was the announcement from the Minister of Transportation but clearly the steep increase in case count will almost certainly alter that schedule.
You'll see. If you are registered with the US State Department you will get notices for humanitarian flights from Medellin if you really want to get back to the US.
You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.If I am not marrying them I don't care how they got hot, gym, plastic surgeon, genetics, fairy-godmother whatever. As long as they are currently hot why should I care?
Jessica Rabbit.Yes, that would be nice.
LoveItHere69
07-19-20, 18:45
Afraid to go out with this lock down. I see police pass by the end of the street or past me about every 25 minutes which turn into every 15 minutes if I am walking around. Standing outside my hotel watching the people. Just a few people out going to the mini convenience store or drug store at the end of the block and the homeless people. I did not have a girl so I gave my money to a girl selling suckers. She was around 23. Her leg was horribly burned. I had to give her the $55,000 ($15 USD) in my pocket. She got to me.
Iguana Six
07-19-20, 18:59
You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version."Build-a-bich".
Reminds me of an idea I had for spoof: "The Six Billion Peso Prepago. ".
"We can rebuild her.
We have the technology.
We have the ability to make the first bionic prepago.
We can make her better than she was before.
Better. Stronger. Faster. ".
Some 15 years ago I met an ex-girlfriend of mine who was married for 10 years at the time. I inquired of her sex life and she told me it consists of her stooping under the computer desk sucking her husbands dick while he watches porn and empties the contents of his testicles into her mouth.Now that's a devoted wife.
SlapShot10
07-19-20, 20:00
Anyone else using Seeking?
I have been having some annoying issues. Sometimes when I click back, it logs out. Sometimes when I click a profile, it says there is no profile, but if I click enter in the address bar, it works. It doesn't load or update the search / message lists properly.
I think I had an issue months ago because I was using a VPN, then wasn't, or vice versa. Not sure what is going on now.
A girl that was in Medellin my last trip just returned from her city, yesterday. She had fallen in love with me in December (take that with a grain of salt, obviously), but I wasn't paying, and we stayed in contact after I left. She ended up in Cartagena for a bit, and as usual, I kind of just stopped talking to her. Anyway, she recently dyed her hair from blonde to dark brown, and wow! I will be spending the afternoon waiting for her to wake up so I can try to convince her to come over despite the law. A little sin condon action, and being the beneficiary of her newfound twerking tricks, might make for a nice little Sunday Funday.
Now that's a devoted wife.Sounds like a submissive wife living in the town of Stepford in Fairfield County, Connecticut who has been brainwashed into submission.
GeneHickman
07-19-20, 23:00
Now that's a devoted wife.Now if you were only to hear his version of the story. 😂.
Look at the number of "beans" they have. If it's over 2,000 just scroll on. Ideally you'll find one with under 10 beans. Chat nice with them. Let them know you're familiar with Medellin. Maybe mention some restaurants or night clubs. Give some gifts, enough to get their attention. Send them a private message. You can do that by clicking on their name, then click on chat. Say a few nice things, throw out your WhatsApp in case they want to talk. You may have to chat more before they'll move to WhatsApp.
Once you have their WhatsApp, it's up to you to figure out if they're a pro or non-pro.Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.
And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?
Villainy, thanks for going out of your way to leave this reply. I appreciate it a lot.
OK you arrived on March 15. Normally (we are NOT in normal) you get a 90 day term for your visit (the stamp in your passport) at the end of 90 days you should be leaving the country. You do have the option to extend for another 90 days by going to Migration Colombia offices and requesting an extension and paying whatever they charge (it's not a lot) and they give you a second 90 day stamp. You are NOT allowed to stay in country for.
More than 180 days during a calendar year. The fines are substantial and they will hold you up at the airport until you pay them.
OK that was the normal procedure.
Migration Colombia offices have been closed during the quarantine. There was a general announcement. Your 90 day tourist visa (the arrival stamp in your passport) was suspended when the quarantine started and.
Until the quarantine officially ends the clock is suspended. I. e. You March 15th entry means you only used 10 days (I don't remember the exact start date of the quarantine but it was around March 25th) it has been extended several times. So until it ends the clock is shut down. You obviously can stay through the rest of this year. And then in 2021 you get a new 180 days..
Mojo Bandit
07-20-20, 03:49
Hello everyone,
First post here. I would like to thank all of you for sharing your valuable knowledge about Medellin. I am planning on going there for my first time next June and staying at the Mansion for a few weeks. I have been working on building up my Facebook chica list. Would any of you be willing to share some Facebook chica contacts that sell their videos and provide sessions in Medellin?There is a search function on the thread. In the grey area just above where it says "This forum thread is moderated by Admin" and to the right. It says search thread. Enter the word facebook and go back and read every thread, there is a lot of advice and directions to be found. I noticed that you went through the effort to get a membership so you have private message capability. Check your messages, I am sending you some tips.
The Tall Man
07-20-20, 03:55
Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.
And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.
Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.
The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.
The Tall Man.
Anyone else using Seeking?
I have been having some annoying issues. Sometimes when I click back, it logs out. Sometimes when I click a profile, it says there is no profile, but if I click enter in the address bar, it works. It doesn't load or update the search / message lists properly.Recently I have the log out issue frequently. I think there is a bug in the search function but I don't know if we experience the same thing. I have not experience the fake block problem you have.
Thanks Mojo! I checked the PM's you sent. Thank you for the info!
There is a search function on the thread. In the grey area just above where it says "This forum thread is moderated by Admin" and to the right. It says search thread. Enter the word facebook and go back and read every thread, there is a lot of advice and directions to be found. I noticed that you went through the effort to get a membership so you have private message capability. Check your messages, I am sending you some tips.
Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.
And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?I never said it was better than Facebook. Facebook is easy and absolutely free. Anyone looking for working girls on Bigo is wasting time. You can find them, but you are much better off with Facebook.
My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me. Of the 5, 3 have sent me full nude videos, 2 have sent masturbation videos and 1 of the holdouts is supposed to do a lesbian video with her best friend this week. Two of them are hooked.
StarMariner
07-20-20, 12:31
I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.
My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.
ColombiaLover
07-20-20, 20:20
You do not need to be walking around Medellin to get service. You have the casas. You have the facebook girls who come to you. Some of the prepago web sites have chicas who will come to you. The truth is that I cannot remember the last time I banged a chica outside of my apartment bed.
I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.
My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.
I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.
My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.Hell no your not to late to Monger at 73!
I have a friend older than you who up until a few months ago was banging hoes in the Plaza Botero / Veracruz area daily. When things open back up get your ass down there.
Stay in Poblado like before in nice digs, and taxi to El Centro. Even if your body is weaker, no problem, as plenty of girls will service you without you having to do anything except lay there if you want. You actually won't recognize the place in terms of girls, there's hundreds of them with the invasion of the Venezuelans.
SpiderRider
07-20-20, 20:41
Afraid to go out with this lock down. I see police pass by the end of the street or past me about every 25 minutes which turn into every 15 minutes if I am walking around. Standing outside my hotel watching the people. Just a few people out going to the mini convenience store or drug store at the end of the block and the homeless people. I did not have a girl so I gave my money to a girl selling suckers. She was around 23. Her leg was horribly burned. I had to give her the $55,000 ($15 USD) in my pocket. She got to me.How is helping another human in clear distress and struggle "caving" ? Man, you've got issues.
Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.
Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.
The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.
The Tall Man.Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.
You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.
Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.
If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.
Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.
A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.
You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.
I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.
My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.Consider staying in Laureles to avoid the hills of Poblado. There are many sources of girls who are more than happy to come to you. If the desire is still there, you're not too old.
John Gault
07-20-20, 21:42
I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.
My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.You say your body is weak. Well if possible get in shape. Losing weight gives you so much more energy. In the last three years I went from 220 lbs to I'm now at 158 lbs. If you are over weight it is the worst when it comes to what you want to do.
You say you were a fan of Mayorista. I bet I saw you there years ago. I would spend most of my time there 10 years ago. It was a picnic then. Not anymore sadly.
Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.
Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.
The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.
The Tall Man.I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.
My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me. Of the 5, 3 have sent me full nude videos, 2 have sent masturbation videos and 1 of the holdouts is supposed to do a lesbian video with her best friend this week. Two of them are hooked.That sounds great.
I'm curious, what the scam attempt was? Want to make sure I miss it myself.
Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.
Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.
You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.
Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.
If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.
Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.
A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.
You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.
The Tall Man
07-21-20, 00:36
Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.
You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.
Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.
If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.
Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy..
Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.Thanks Jbj64 for the info. How much do the Beans cost to hand out? Is this just me that this sounds like a whole lot of hassle and effort to search a Bingo chica to have a date with.
Just saying.
The Tall Man.
Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.You don't have to do anything. You don't have to give anyone anything. There's nobody suggesting you should go there. It's simply a currently popular app.
At some point in the not too distant future guys are going to start getting messages from the girls they used to see asking them to check out their Bigo, or whichever other livestream app they are using.
The world is changing every day. Whether or not you keep up with it is entirely up to you.
Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.
Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.
The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.
The Tall Man.I'm waiting to hear that besides what you described, she like's watching the Simpsons, but that might be before her time.
It's sad that so many of these young women have no intellectual capacity or desire to learn something or study. So I can see it's frustrating for you having a live-in that's spaced out all day. So that's the bad part of the arrangement.
However the good part is when you have morning wood, or "ganas" any time of day, you don't have to go far. So I would think this would outweigh your frustrations with her if she doesn't cost anything to have around except feeding her, and you can come and go as you please and bang other Chicas with no drama.
Gringo Trooper
07-21-20, 01:53
I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.Zombies is one way to put it. I've been traveling to Colombia since 2014. And one of my friends, who moved to MDE permanently would always say the women in Colombia had pea brains.
I don't disagree with his term pea brain LOL.
Mr Enternational
07-21-20, 04:51
My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me.They may not be pros, but it appears that some of them are cons.
They may not be pros, but it appears that some of them are cons.Absolutely correct. But there's an advantage to dealing with middle class non-pros. They go completely into panic mode when their reputation is at stake. She seems to have had a change of heart.
Thanks Jbj64 for the info. How much do the Beans cost to hand out? Is this just me that this sounds like a whole lot of hassle and effort to search a Bingo chica to have a date with.
Just saying.
The Tall Man.Absolutely. I'm not suggesting anyone drop everything and go rush off to the livestreams and hope to score. For almost everyone it will be a waste of time and money.
However, millions of people are using the livestream apps. There are dozens out there and more every day. Some people enjoy it. If they're going to try, my method may help.
There are guys who think making 5 laps around El Centro looking for a date is a waste of time. There are guys who think visiting 3 strip clubs or 5 casas looking for a date is a waste of time. There are guys who think Facebook is a waste of time. No matter what, someone is going to tell you it's a waste of time.
Geeze, you've got a girl living at your expense who's spending 15 hours a day on Tik Tok and you want to talk about wasting time?
Iguana Six
07-21-20, 14:07
What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?
What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?When the President of Colombia says so.
What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?Supposedly they will begin allowing international flights again on Sept 1, but they've already moved the date back several times now and even if it's correct this time there's no guarantee they'll permit flights from the US, due to its current status as a viral hotzone. I definitely wouldn't be booking hotels and making travel arrangements until it's absolutely certain.
I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.The simple pleasures of life are now to be found on the screen.
Black Page
07-21-20, 16:18
Supposedly they will begin allowing international flights again on Sept 1, but they've already moved the date back several times now and even if it's correct this time there's no guarantee they'll permit flights from the US, due to its current status as a viral hotzone. I definitely wouldn't be booking hotels and making travel arrangements until it's absolutely certain.If they act as seriously as Singapore, I wouldn't check news compulsively every day hoping to find that things have changed:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/leisure-travel-may-not-be-possible-this-year-wong
We all need to exercise patience. I would sign a paper to commit, if I could be guaranteed to be able to have holidays in Colombia in Spring 2021. Any less month is a gift from the Sky, and it is an optimistic target.
Unless you are comparing it to maybe North Korea, how is whatever is happening in Singapore in any way relevant, indicative, germane, or otherwise related to Colombia? That was a rhetorical question, never mind. The real question is why did you bring it up?
If they act as seriously as Singapore, I wouldn't check news compulsively every day hoping to find that things have changed:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/leisure-travel-may-not-be-possible-this-year-wong
We all need to exercise patience. I would sign a paper to commit, if I could be guaranteed to be able to have holidays in Colombia in Spring 2021. Any less month is a gift from the Sky, and it is an optimistic target.
Unless you are comparing it to maybe North Korea, how is whatever is happening in Singapore in any way relevant, indicative, germane, or otherwise related to Colombia? That was a rhetorical question, never mind. The real question is why did you bring it up?I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.
I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.
I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?
Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.
I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?I have suggested similar things to the lawyer I have been talking to. I asked him if I can get a special visa where I pay a premium on the humanitarian flight, once I get there I will pay whatever they ask to stay at whichever place they require for 14 days, I will even pay official guards assigned by the government to secure the place where I stay.
My lawyer said it's better to wait until 9/1st, they are likely to require self quarantine anyway. Business visa won't work while the quarantine is in place, I tried. I even naively asked if I can get some special treatment given that I'm employing a team of people (including a few phds) in Medellin, and I'm trying to bring advanced technology to the country. Etc, the lawyer looked at me funny, in a gentle way, he said that do you think any politician will sign a special treatment for a gringo to travel to Medellin just because he runs a company here, especially when all the local businesses are closed? He has a point.
My true motivation / desperation of going back to Medellin is, beyond a doubt, the reunification with my 12 girlfriends (10 now, 2 of them turned 22 already). I'm optimistic about 9/1, I don't believe nature can be this cruel.
Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.
I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?What you just described is going to be the worst case scenario for entry into a Country which would mean testing and quarantine to get into a Country (15 days) , and depending on where your returning to another possible 15 days. I see very few board members having the means to do this. Hopefully some Countries will come up with a test a few days before arrival, then quarantine for few days with another test, and then you get released. I think there are a few Countries doing something like this now, and when you add the fact that Countries are blackballing other Countries from entering it's an ever evolving situation. Additionally, some members might not want to visit a Country with serious COVID problems like what is happening in the USA and starting to happen in Colombia now.
Long story short, I have almost resigned myself that until there's a vaccine, I most probably won't be getting on a flight going Overseas. But I am very tempted to do so as the DR has opened up and I talked with a guy who landed in Santo Domingo about a week ago who filled out a form upon arrival and was released, no tests, no quarantine.
Unfortunately, it's too fucking hot and humid there this time of year but an option.
GeneHickman
07-22-20, 03:56
Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.
You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.
Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.
If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.
Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.
A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.
You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.This is interesting. I wonder if and how this impacts the availability of P4 P post pandemic.
The world is a big place with a lot of sex starved men. Medellin for all its bounty of available pussy.
Is a much smaller place with a finite resource. When it is just the adventurous gringos it is one thing.
But if the online hordes arrive and throw even a few pennies a piece, those paisas will be making decent.
Money. That's a legitimate concern. It certainly could affect the quality.
So full disclosure I only ever been to Singapore for business trips. I think four or five times. I can't think of anything that reminds me of the Americas about Singapore, not even the Americans I've met there. But fair enough, it is as valid to guess how closely Colombia will follow Singapore's policy as any other country's policies. So in that spirit, does someone want to touch on Brazil, Russia, Spain or the Dominican Republic? If the goal is to highlight countries with restrictive policies then as I mentioned North Korea would be the gold standard (no, I've never been there LOL!
I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.
Black Page
07-22-20, 08:46
I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.Exactly. Thank you for explaining correctly. Very germane.
I brought Singapore as an example because I believe that several seem too optimistic about getting back to normal soon, like if the virus does not exist anymore. Instead, I am afraid we are still far from the tunnel exit.
Singapore is not Colombia, is not USA, and this explains why the number of cases in Singapore has been always small and limited to few circles (mainly dormitories for foreign workers). They will NOT open the borders to tourists for a long time (imagine how depressed I am for this: I was used to go KL, Singapore and Batam at least 3 times a year, with 6 border crossings each time).
By the way, I hope Mr. K is familiar with Singapore enough to know that mentioning North Korea is out of context. Singapore is one of the most open countries in the world. Nearly anyone can enter without visa for tourism. Singapore economy is largely based on free circulation of foreign people.
I doubt either Colombia or USA will be ever so serious and strict as Singapore, but this also means that things there will be out of control for much longer. Keeping borders closed at least from red countries, for a country as Colombia, is the minimum they can do to limit damage.
Work has been keeping me busy more than usual. I just came out of a none-stop 72-hour work marathon. Attempting to escape the reality that this will be another 100 hour work week, I put on some Mozart and poured a glass of the most beautiful Japanese Whiskey. During these trying times, the only thing that relaxes me is my memories of the FKK globe, the beaches of Rio de Janeiro and Costa Rica, and especially my time in Medellin.
I have been pondering an obvious question, what made ISG so appealing to me? [Deleted by Admin] My conclusion is that because its content brings back my best memories. When a person experienced something as divine as mongering in Medellin, he will look for any opportunity to relive about that experience.
I can confidently say every frequent poster on this thread loves Medellin deeply; it is beyond just the mongering experience. There is something about the culture, the aesthetics of the city, the proud spirit of the people, the down-to-earth humanness, the naivete and tenderness of the paisas that deeply attract us. On the surface, we challenge each other's view, fight over Gusto v. S. Streetwalkers, Poblado v. S. El Centro, Casas v. S. The mansion. But deep down, we are here often because we all love Medellin.
I don't have anything new to contribute because I'm stuck in this hell hole called California. But I can share one of the many remarkable experiences I had in Medellin.
It was a regular workday in November 2019. I was living in a penthouse apartment in Medellin, I had lots of work to finish up that night, so I didn't go out. One of my favorite girl at Gusto texted me all night, for the most part, I ignored her. She texted me again at 2 am, right after Gusto closed, asking me to go to Paradise, where we first met. I wanted to work for a few more hours, so I ask her to come to my place instead of going to Paradise, she quickly agreed. Around 2:45 am, she rolled up at my apartment, driven by one of the taxi drivers that I usually use at Gusto.
Upon arrival, the cab driver immediately tried to sell me tussi, for 100 k per gram, he knows that on a typical Friday night at Gusto, I will burn through more than one gram, and I buy from him all the time. However, on that night, I still had work to finish, and I have lots of important meetings in the morning. I told him to fuck off, but he kept on saying, "the lady needs to tussi", and my girl tried to push for the sale. I was way too sober at that time to fall into this trap, I immediately told both of them to fuck off, and ran back into my gated apartment building.
After returning to my apartment, I continued to work, until at 3:30 am, the Gusto girl texted me again using some cryptic Spanish that even confused google translate. I don't remember what we talked about, but she agreed to come back to my apartment at 4:20 am, without the Gusto driver. 4:20 am on the dot, she showed up, and I decided to stop working.
Upon entering my apartment, she acted a little sad, as if I had betrayed her, I was still sober and hadn't had a drop of alcohol for the entire day, I tried to Google Translate my reason to her. She started to feeding me Whiskey, and some tussi she brought over, after about 20 minutes, I'm entirely in my party mode. I turned off my phone and started to makeout with her.
We kissed for a good 5 minutes. After that, I was utterly turned on. She put on some Latin dance music, and we started dancing in front of a full-length mirror in my living room. We kissed passionately while moving in front of our reflections. Slowly, she stripped down to her panties; black eyes will never escape my memory. My cock was rock hard and pressed aggressively against her panties; I can feel she was soaking wet.
We danced through many sounds while admiring our naked body movement. When the music's tempo increased, I pushed her against the mirror, pulled her panties aside, and slid my dick into her pussy. I fucked her voraciously until the music slowed down, I snored a line of tussi on her neck before pulling my cock out of her pussy and resuming grinding her over her panties.
After dancing and fucking in front of my living mirror for some time, we grabbed two beers headed to the balcony, we both wanted to dance under the last bit of moonlight before the sun takes over. On my balcony, we pressed our naked body tightly against each other, moved along with the music, and savored the kaleidoscope of lights on the mountains of Antioquia. From time to time, she looked at me with an innocent smile that god only reserved for 18-21 year-olds, and said "baby, I like" and then pointed to the view. I smiled at her for a few seconds, and then we started kissing. (I wish I knew some Spanish back then, I would love to say "Yo tambien, Yo Creo que eres más hermoso que la luz de la luna".
As the 6 am morning air starts to creep in, Medellin blissed me with a melanic rain. We moved back inside of my living room, we cuddled together to enjoy this early morning rain. Watching the raindrops landing on my balcony aimlessly while witnessing the colorful mountain lights disappearing under the gray sky, a feeling of melancholy and romanticism secretly united us.
Sitting on my couch, we started kissing ferociously, before I knew it, she commenced a blowjob as her life depends on it. From time to time, she will stare deep into my eyes while sucking me, the rawness of that stare conveys a mysterious desire of anger, love, and emptiness. Listening to the symphony of raindrops and watching the reddish sunlight attempting to break the dark cloud while receiving a passionate blowjob from a smoking hot 21-year-old Paisa, got be one of the best things in life. Having Mozart's concerto 21 and the first movement of Bach's concerto for two violins playing in my had solidified this instance as one of the most memorable moments in my life.
During this earth-shattering blowjob, when she felt that my cock is hard enough to fuck she will hop on and try to rid me like no tomorrow. If she feels I have gotten soft, she will switch back to sucking my cock. This heavenly experience marched to an end when the sun finally won its battle against the rainy cloud.
When the sunlight-filled my living room, we moved to the master bedroom, where we fucked like this was the last time we will ever fuck, her sweat and body warmth only enhanced my desire to penetrate her harder. I don't remember if I cum in her mouth or inside her pussy, I have fucked enough women to know that I have already gotten the most out of the night. I remember waking up 3 hours later, hurry to call into my first meeting while she is sleeping in my bed. I remember I give her the standard 600 k that I usually give to all my Gusto favorites.
I don't know about other people's situations, but for me, the experience I described is nearly impossible to find in Northern California. In Medellin, I can have it every night; in fact, this experience doesn't even make it to my top 10 in Medellin. God, I miss Medellin. I'm confident that Medellin will open in September, I have already decided to move there for at least six months. I will have new reports to share by then.
The Tall Man
07-22-20, 11:15
Yes this China virus is the shits but after this past long 4 day weekend under very strict quarantine here in Medellin got out today and spent about 4 hours in Botero and the Vera, plenty of pussy out and about, plenty of police too but not hassling anyone.
I dare to say that other than the vast majority of shops being closed the area was a buzz of activity. My buddy and I got a few numbers, saw and said Hi to some familiar faces and in the end I met up with my old ATF and felt in the giving mood so took her for a romp in the hay at one of those 5 mil room hotels in the Vera. Left satisfied as always with her as she is a sweetie.
If nothing else it was good just to be out and walk around and the weather was perfect which made for a pleasant afternoon.
Much love and respect.
The Tall Man.
From Avianca today:
The most complicated times are about to pass, and our commitment is stronger than ever. The time to spread our wings and fly again is near, and we want to tell you about the new facilities to achieve a better Elite status, to be able to enjoy better benefits on your LifeMiles program.
We lowered the qualification requirements for the 2020 period, this way all our loyal travelers will have a greater chance to achieve a better Elite status.
Your new Elite level will be valid until January 31st, 2022.
The goals for 2020 were reduced in a 50% for all levels:
This is interesting. I wonder if and how this impacts the availability of P4 P post pandemic.
The world is a big place with a lot of sex starved men. Medellin for all its bounty of available pussy.
Is a much smaller place with a finite resource. When it is just the adventurous gringos it is one thing.
But if the online hordes arrive and throw even a few pennies a piece, those paisas will be making decent.
Money. That's a legitimate concern. It certainly could affect the quality.It doesn't. Not significantly. Most of the working girls are as attached to their ways as most of the mongers. They'll try it for a few weeks, won't see immediate success and will go back to begging guys to send them money.
Most of the girls (and many of the guys) are incredibly short-sighted. They have no concept of trying to establish anything, whether it's a reputation for good, prompt service, or whether to save money for the future.
One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. ".
So I wouldn't worry too much about major changes. Most things will remain the same.
SpiderRider
07-23-20, 00:17
Yes this China virus is the shits but after this past long 4 day weekend under very strict quarantine here in Medellin got out today and spent about 4 hours in Botero and the Vera, plenty of pussy out and about, plenty of police too but not hassling anyone.
I dare to say that other than the vast majority of shops being closed the area was a buzz of activity. My buddy and I got a few numbers, saw and said Hi to some familiar faces and in the end I met up with my old ATF and felt in the giving mood so took her for a romp in the hay at one of those 5 mil room hotels in the Vera. Left satisfied as always with her as she is a sweetie.
If nothing else it was good just to be out and walk around and the weather was perfect which made for a pleasant afternoon.
Much love and respect.
The Tall Man.Thanks for the reconnaissance. There was one down there I tried to find to get a number before the el centro lockdown 2 weekends ago. She wasn't there that Sunday evening. Maybe I'll try this week again.
SpiderRider
07-23-20, 00:20
From Avianca today:
The most complicated times are about to pass, and our commitment is stronger than ever. The time to spread our wings and fly again is near, and we want to tell you about the new facilities to achieve a better Elite status, to be able to enjoy better benefits on your LifeMiles program.
We lowered the qualification requirements for the 2020 period, this way all our loyal travelers will have a greater chance to achieve a better Elite status.
Your new Elite level will be valid until January 31st, 2022.
The goals for 2020 were reduced in a 50% for all levels:I'm glad to see the reports of Avianca bankruptcy and failure are, so far, false. Its a superior experience to the discount flyers from Ft. Lauderdale. Worth the train ride to Miami Intl.
ColombiaLover
07-23-20, 03:01
My recollection is that Avianca did file for bankruptcy in USA Court. But of course, bankruptcy does not need to end in liquidation. I assume they will be in reorganization, just like about every other USA Airlines has done in the past.
I'm glad to see the reports of Avianca bankruptcy and failure are, so far, false. Its a superior experience to the discount flyers from Ft. Lauderdale. Worth the train ride to Miami Intl.
Black Page
07-23-20, 10:32
My recollection is that Avianca did file for bankruptcy in USA Court. But of course, bankruptcy does not need to end in liquidation. I assume they will be in reorganization, just like about every other USA Airlines has done in the past.Exactly: Chapter 11. They issued an official statement months ago.
Colombians like to speak bad about Avianca and their poor service, as it happens in many other countries, but I love Avianca. I love their aircrafts, the smile of their employees, the unique uniform of the hostess, the service on board, the cleanness, even their Colombia Tourism spots projected on TV screens onboard.
I am Platinum Flying Blue and I was really disappointed when they moved to Star Alliance, but probably they did it right.
One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. "That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.
However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.
By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!
Exactly: Chapter 11. They issued an official statement months ago.
Colombians like to speak bad about Avianca and their poor service, as it happens in many other countries, but I love Avianca. I love their aircrafts, the smile of their employees, the unique uniform of the hostess, the service on board, the cleanness, even their Colombia Tourism spots projected on TV screens onboard.
I am Platinum Flying Blue and I was really disappointed when they moved to Star Alliance, but probably they did it right.I to prefer Avianca over COPA because of their planes and always fly Business Class, however their on-board food is terrible compared to COPA's, yet COPA's lounges suck compared to Avianca's, and yes, you can't beat the beauty of the flight attendants. As far as being on time, well AVIANCA is notorious for being delayed where as COPA I think had the best on-time record in the Industry. I always fly out of LOS Angeles to Medellin, so sometimes it's a pain in the ass in Bogota with the lines, etc. Whereas flying on COPA it's a breeze in Panama City, yet they don't have sleeper beds on any of their planes.
And both airlines are Star Alliance members, and that's perfect for me. I log all my miles onto my United account which never expire like AVIANC'A's and COPA's and because they are both Star Alliance members, I get use of the Star Alliance lounge at LAX which is very nice. Since all of the AVIANCA and COPA flights leave in the evening I hit the lounge before the flight, have some great beverages and food thinking about how by the middle of the next day I will be in paradise!
I don't know about other people's situations, but for me, the experience I described is nearly impossible to find in Northern California. In Medellin, I can have it every night; in fact, this experience doesn't even make it to my top 10 in Medellin. God, I miss Medellin. I'm confident that Medellin will open in September, I have already decided to move there for at least six months. I will have new reports to share by then.Hang in there man, your younger versus a lot of other members on this board so you will have many more years to enjoy Medellin. When I talk to my kids about things, not what we do, but what's going on in the World today, I explain to them that when they are older, this will all of just been a speed bump in their lives. Try to imagine the guys over sixty like myself, we've crossed third base and are headed to the finish line, whereas guys like yourself haven't even made it to second base. Try to think of how frustrating this is for the older guys having their wings clipped and being grounded, whereas you have many more years of fun ahead of you so your just going to need to be patient, and yes, I too have memories of the incredible experiences I have had in Medellin, which are etched in my head, like yours, to savior and help pass the time until things open back up.
That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.
However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.
By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!Yes, I too noticed that they want the same amount or more for videos than they charged for sex. I guess they have no concept of supply and demand, and feel entitled to replace their lost income, regardless of the value of their products or services. I politely decline.
The Tall Man
07-23-20, 17:30
It doesn't. Not significantly. Most of the working girls are as attached to their ways as most of the mongers. They'll try it for a few weeks, won't see immediate success and will go back to begging guys to send them money.
Most of the girls (and many of the guys) are incredibly short-sighted. They have no concept of trying to establish anything, whether it's a reputation for good, prompt service, or whether to save money for the future.
One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. ".
So I wouldn't worry too much about major changes. Most things will remain the same.
That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.
However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.
By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!All true words as I have seen, experienced this being this played out here in Medellin and has gotten much worse in the past 3 years now (been around Medellin for 10 years now).
They are simply stupid minded putas, even educated ones think this way not limited to the barrio putas (who can be a lot of fun). I too have seen them post photos of a big music and drinking party they were just at, with their old boyfriends drinking till 4 AM, proclaiming their love of life and everything is chimba then, guess what! Within 2 days they are pleading with me that they have nothing to eat for her and her baby, no diapers and they are sooooo sad, jajajaja.
Much love and respect!
The Tall Man.
GeneHickman
07-23-20, 18:38
That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.
However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.
By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!These Chicas are very short term and won't remember what you did for them when you get there. You may still have good reasons you want to do it, but the gratitude etc lasts a few days at most.
These Chicas are very short term and won't remember what you did for them when you get there. You may still have good reasons you want to do it, but the gratitude etc lasts a few days at most.*shrug* we'll see. I only helped out those I've fucked multiple times over multiple trips so if they ghost or start acting entitled I'll just move on. That's the beauty of Medellin--if one chica doesn't work out there's literally hundreds to take their place.
ColombiaLover
07-23-20, 22:05
Yes, these girls definitely have short memories about the time you "help" them. Not saying they may not appreciate it at the time, but in some ways they come to expect it because, after all, you are a gringo and must be rich. Once you do it, some will see that as weakness and try to come back to the well again and again. Others will be happy you helped and not push it.
The reality is that if it makes you feel good helping one of them you know well. And it financially is not a problem for you. Then do it. If you ever get anything in return, consider it a bonus, but don't expect it. On occasion, I have helped girls I have known for a while. Only in small amounts I know I'll never see again. Sometimes I felt good about it and later regretted it and other times I felt good about it. But never sent enough money to where it hurt. The cost of a lunch these days.
*shrug* we'll see. I only helped out those I've fucked multiple times over multiple trips so if they ghost or start acting entitled I'll just move on. That's the beauty of Medellin--if one chica doesn't work out there's literally hundreds to take their place.
SlapShot10
07-24-20, 00:13
Monday
My short-time Nov-Dec trip love interest came over. It was nice to see her. She moved in with a friend, and I'm sure she'll be doing citas soon. Not sure how else she intends to pay rent. We did the standard: dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, fuck. She stayed the night and left in the afternoon. Todo sin condon. I think it was once at night, once in the morning, but maybe twice that night. Uber / Didi cost 23.000 & 18.000. When she was leaving, the Uber was 18mins away. She told me to cancel because it's too far away. I explained, it's not like I chose the far one, and there are five siting in the parking lot. So, I end up canceling and the next one is 15mins. All good! Even though it took 3mins to do and should have cost me money to cancel.
She messaged me saying she'll come back whenever I want, if she can find a way to make some money. I might see her again, might not.
Wednesday
I started messaging in the evening. Wifey wanted to come back, but I was already down the rabbit hole. I genuinely don't know if I'll see her for more than 1-2 more threesomes, assuming that option is on the table. Anyway, I had a few that said not last night. I connected with a girl I had chatted with before, around 11 p. She was ready within about 30 mins. Typical fucking Paisa bullshit, this girl sends me an address that doesn't come up on Uber or Didi, so I have to use an address that is near. Didi arrives, she can't find him. I tell her where he is, I tell him to find her address. Communication is spotty, throughout. I ask her if she can pay and I'll pay her back. She says she has no money. Miraculously, she is able to borrow money, and finds her own taxi. So, I have to cancel the Didi ride. They get stopped by police, but no problems.
She messaged me that it hurts when she has sex, and can I not be rough. I had arranged 2 pops, no rules. I told her we could do the jacuzzi, etc, but that I was tired and didn't want to be up all night. I told her I'd unlock the door, and to come to the bedroom when she arrives. Within 30 seconds her clothes are off, and a surprise clit ring is visible. Tight tight body, small but firm and perky tits. Cute and great energy. She is 18 yo and had her braces removed since we first exchanged photos. We're kissing and groping, then she's sucking. She gets on top and just slides it in, sin condon. It is the tightest pussy I have in my terrible memory bank. She was squirming away from me, cat and mouse. It was really amazing. Her on top, then her on top squatting, then spooning, then doggy, then finished missionary with her legs up. She asked for it on her body / chest, and I obliged. We clean up and she starts getting dressed. She asks when we will see each other again. I explain I told her 2 times. She says, let's do 3 next time, same price, but with dinner, jacuzzi, drinks, etc. Works for me. I didn't want to wait around for the re-charge, anyway. After how tight that pussy was, I wasn't about to argue over another round that I didn't even really care about.
She asks for taxi money. The taxi turns out to be her friend that drives Uber, and is waiting downstairs. Everything is starting to add up. She asks for 40 k. 20 each way. I explain to her that it's 11 k on Didi. So, I gave her 30 k. She said the driver told her 40 k. I said, I understand that. It is because she is with a gringo, but I'm only a gringo, not a bobo gringo. So, she leaves understanding and with no complaint. I am already looking forward to having a long, long night with her in the very near future. If she blocks me and I never see her again, it was worth the 230 k. It was like ordering Rappi.
A girl from a pueblo on the outskirts, really good looking light skinned strawberry blonde, asked about coming over today. I was trying to get her over last night. She quoted me 900k. I told here we're not even close, and that was the second-highest number I've heard in Medellin. It's not, but at the time, I was only thinking of this trip. I got her down to 400k + taxis (I offered 400k for TLN no rules). I doubt I'll take her up on anything, but she does have a very unique look. Actually, she said taxis are 90k each way, so I'm definitely not going to pay 180k for transportation, when I can have Pinky & Wifey, together, for less than that.
Tonight
I have a freebie from SA coming over for the normal routine. She asked if she can come at 2 p. I said whoa whoa whoa, I work. We agreed on 6 p. 4 p I had a quick workout then walked to Carulla. Back by 530 p to unload and get ready. She says she's going to be late. 18 yo, cute, we'll see how it goes. Lots of laughing on WhatsApp. Seems like a good connection. Zero discussion of money, at this point.
I messaged a 18 yo smoking hot Paisa on Instagram, and she responded (not very common, for me, at least). She said the standard procedure sounds great, and when. I said I can't tonight, and then she said well the lockdown starts tomorrow. Kind of regretting losing out on that opportunity. I might not get another. Oh, and for those with Instagram, check out @spaebronzemedellin. Looks like a new hot spot for some of the influencer types, and they have some very nice photos! Looks like if you had the balls and desire, you could go for a tan or massage, and be surrounded by beauties, on the right day. (Talking to you, SJobs).
So, in short, WHY THE FUCK DO PAISAS HAVE NO FUCKING SENSE OF DIRECTION?!!?! It's incredibly annoying. I prefer to use UBER / DiDi because you can insert your address, and you know they shouldn't have any issues once they begin the trip. But holy fucking fuck starting the trip is a coin flip, at best. Why would these girls not know this? Why do they not use a street corner address, a local store, something, anything. Fuck!
That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.
However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.
By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!It varies greatly. I started out with an experiment. I told each of them I would send 200 mil. Then they would send me what they thought was fair. It worked out like I expected. Some of them sent me a bunch of videos and some didn't send many. The ones that sent a bunch then got a second chance for $15-$30.
When you figure what you can get for free, there's no good price. I look at it like you. I build a bit of goodwill, I get referred to a bunch of friends and maybe it gets a slightly more enthusiastic session some day.
On the dying grandma, sick cat subject.
There was 1 girl who I regularly sent money to. Started out as 200 k about every 6 weeks. Eventually it had grown to 400 k per month. Then once the quarantine hit, she started asking for more. Around the first week of June she kept pushing her upcoming birthday, so I sent some extra. Just before her birthday I sent 700 k, more than enough for her birthday and groceries. She acted offended and immediately got blocked. Haven't talked to her since.
Now the funny part. She was always laying the "te amo" crap on me and telling me that she was saving herself for me. No dates, no other guys. Yeah right. Two weeks after I blocked her, her mother messages me to tell me she is pregnant.
All true words as I have seen, experienced this being this played out here in Medellin and has gotten much worse in the past 3 years now (been around Medellin for 10 years now).
They are simply stupid minded putas, even educated ones think this way not limited to the barrio putas (who can be a lot of fun). I too have seen them post photos of a big music and drinking party they were just at, with their old boyfriends drinking till 4 AM, proclaiming their love of life and everything is chimba then, guess what! Within 2 days they are pleading with me that they have nothing to eat for her and her baby, no diapers and they are sooooo sad, jajajaja.
Much love and respect!
The Tall Man.On the flip side, although it's rare, there are a few who almost never ask for anything, except advice. I've got one of those. I did send her 80 k to buy a dress for her graduation (She got pregnant at 15 and dropped out, then went back and finished). Then for her birthday I bought her a nice vibrator and some lingerie. That was also a congratulations for finding a job. Now she's trying to find a way to make more money and to start saving some.
Greetings to MDE board,
Reporting my March MDE trip which took place just as intl travel ceased, I'm recent active member from Tijuana HK poster of #10382 (Jan 2020) awarded monger of the year award by some, Tijuana Zone norte was 1st hobbyist trip in Oct 2019,19 girls in 6 day / 5 night report, here's my MDE report that I hope is award worthy:
As I looked up CR, DR & Panama research & RTFF, MDE won out. The situation in China / Europe was evolving & everything was normal in March in US when I left LAX to MDE (layover PTY, Panama in COPA airlines) on 3/11,arrived MDE 3/12 11 am, exchanged few USD to COP, met my airport taxi pickup sent by hotel (wellknown gringofriendly spot in Poblado). Travel was light around this time, airports fairly busy, much more the return flight. I immediately felt Paisa hositality along w / smooth weather as I took 30+min ride to hotel. Settled in, rested bit as & unpacked, quickly headed to Oviedo Mall ctr (big green apple w / leaves you can't miss it in Poblado), got USD exchanged to COP (didn't deal w / ATMS, didn't in Tijuana & was sticking to same plan). Went to Oviedo ctr few times for exchanges & also Sr. Wok Chinese food (4-5 usd combo plate) & smallshops for water bottles (. 40-50 cents avg) etc. Pharmacy had antibiotic AZT 2 usd.
1-2. Came back to hotel 3-4 pm after 1st experience walking in Colombia (cross street with others to make it easier) in Poblado was out of breath from uphill trek common there, but I managed (fit early 30's latin), place I stayed had chicas in lobby by reception & decided to arrange something before I entered my room so I took 2 beautiful chicas along my rm to kickoff my trip, 4 chicas in total were sitting in lobby & said Hi to 2 hottest,1 was A. Stunner 8 near 9 petite olive light complexion 20 yo nice silicone chest, nice butt 5 ft akin to Giselle Montes adultstar,2 was M. Ebony complexion high 7 slim tall all natural cute face early 20's,long legs hot Rihanna look, ea. 220 k for 1 HR, no rush,1 pop ea. ,multiple positions, finished 1 first then 2,both paisas from MDE, I found this to be common (in Tijuana most were from allover MX). Later did repeat A. 2nd time as shared later in this report.
3.5 pm-6 pm ordered bandeja paisa for 20 k (5 usd), rappi app good for food, ate & rested,& medicated some 420,went to hotel bar opened 6 p got there 8 p,saw few ladies in bar (9-12), hottest 9 chica was on phone & waved me off so since I was getting hang of what was what / how it works, I checked others around & greeted next hottest, a solid 8 almost 9, J. Creamy light complexion beautiful shaped eyes, deep blk hair, spinner bod, nice silicone chest, good ass, Kristina Rose adultstar look. Got J. Ficha at bar (5 usd drink) & told her if she wanted to finish drink in my rm lets go, went to rm, gave me 420 cigar since I told her my hotel wasn't that OK w / smoking so I kept it for next chica. J was eye candy in missionary & multiple positions, chest was perfect, passionate sesh & friendly,220 k 1 HR 1 pop, no rush vibe, she was into tussi nose candy as well. I didn't partake, encountered this "being a thing" 1st here.
4. 10-11 pm, as usual got some rest & ate bit, water etc, then headed back to hotel bar 1-2 HR after, less chicas now as it was 12-1 am so got different chica, L. Was mid 20,5 ft, petite, silicone chest, tan medium skin, blk hair chica average 7. Good face & chest is what attracted me most, got her ficha at bar & didn't spend much time, did usual ask name, age, if they have kids etc quick interview & to my rm we went, avg sesh,1 pop, decent, 250 k said she needed taxi fare. It was near 1 am now, was my 1st night so I made plan to have L. Go with me to Parque Lleras, took cigar #3 gave me & enjoyed it outside by tree before taxi to Lleras, got to Lleras & seemed like news & covid stuff was already making nitelife slimmer, Lleras was crowded but not much this Th night, we went to LaMorena bar (most places were closing since 2 am many stop letting people in) enjoyed water bottle for me+beer for chica L. I decided I was going to see scene & said Hi to next chica, but before that gave L. Few pesos for fare on top of 250 k from prior. She gave some drama but I quickly firmly said I gave her enough & that I was going with nxt #5 A. A hot Venezuelan alongside as I left L. In Lleras.
5. Now 2-3 am, A. Was a hot 20 yo body like Jasmine Byrne adultstar, she was Venezuelan all natural body, bubble butt, wearing white dress as I saw her near taxi, nice legs, once I said bye to L. #4 I said Hi to A #5. ,she quoted 200 k 1 HR in Lleras, & I asked near taxi if he was avail, we went to my hotel in poblado, A. Took out 420 j in taxi & lit up as we rode to my place. My place didn't accept her ID / cedula, so taxi took us nearby short time hotel Caban'as 100 k /3 HR place allowed her in rm, enjoyed more 420 & got greek backdoor action 200 k agreed, no upsell or upcharge, I even skipped vag since that A looked good, solid high 7 or 8 in terms of hotness. This sesh was uber hot, A. Was not into grk so she took my lengthy sesh like a champ, not exactly smiling on her part, but was legit good grk action, face down on her belly,200 k I liked this short time grk sesh. 1st Vene chica met. It was my 1st night coming to end, 5 chicas, finished this day at 5 am, already MDE was giving Tijuana steep competition, hotness factor tied for most part but Tijuana HK quality bit higher, value going to MDE.
6. Got up early rested 5 hrs,10 am got comp'd breakfast, had notes ready for trip with locations / places, decided to go early & head to NewL. Fe in centro, hailed taxi with DiDi app & off I went made my 1st trek into dtown MDE. I found dtown definitely similar to Tijuana la Zona, SW scene almost copy & paste in terms of feel / quality. Using address made it to NL massage casa, here was my 1st visit to casa, staff had hand sanitizer ready as you entered, they quickly notified me before chicas came by to say Hi (they do in turns as they come out) that hallucinogen use prohibited, chicas came by to say Hi, picked tallest one, slim mid20's medium tan blk hair, all natural body, name L, session was 75 k for 45 m,got her ficha & enjoyed sesh, which was good decent, FS multiple positions,1 pop. At that 75 k I consider this sesh great for value in terms of convenience (casa location was good, setup straight fwd).
7. My Poblado hotel had been unable to book me on this Fri. 3/13 so I had decided on slumming it at dtwon MDE, often mentioned Hotel be. Tro near behind Hotel Nutibarra this Fri to feelout the places & plzaBtro and vercruz scenes. 1 pm got Didi app taxi to my centro hotel & later headed to Yakusas which is located just behind my hotel and behind Nuti. Yakusas is small location, bar type setup with service similar to casas, around 3-5 chicas when I went 1-2 pm most near 3 to 5 in looks, I took hottest one, high 6 in looks, good body just avg face, but at 50 k + ficha rate I was more than OK with it, finished sesh in small rooms literally nxt to where 2-3 places to sit with girls and drink are, small space but clean and decent in my opinion. Sesh was decent,1 pop no major rules, zero attitude from chica. Less passionate than higher scale girls I had before, but at 50 k rate it was great. 2 casas in one morning / afternoon, it was good 2nd day in MDE.
8. 4-5 pm I decided to go outside & explore dtown el centro my 1st time, got few empanadas (2 k ea, less than 1 usd), binuelos (300-500 pesos, 15-20 cents) to go, walked back to hotel which was located behind Hotel Nutib. On way back walked some streets full of commerce, food stands, shoes / clothes sold, very crowded full of people, was interesting, took in the scene, I took some turns into side streets near Bolivar / clle Peru area where Sn Felip.
9. 7-8 pm was back in my centro hotel, got some downtime & cleaned up, ate bit & the usual, relaxed, decided to contact a FB chica E. I lined up week prior to my arrival in MDE,19-20 yo paisa chica petite slim flat stomach, pretty face, light complexion, young tender look, solid high 7,8 in terms of face / cuteness, E. Had flat chest all natural, slim body. Likely since I met her on FB and had her coming to centro location, she quoted 300 k for 1 HR, arranged her to come by after 9 near 10,she came early shortly after 9 pm to my surprise. Said her mom was waiting on her (likely since she was watching her kid) etc, but sesh was the full hour, very slow paced long pumps, passionate like session with this young spinner cutie. Music playing & was nice, her pink colored vag lips were nice to pump, when I finished she let out slow long breath, I gave her a workout, 40 m atleast. She even tried getting on top, but I liked being in control so switched positions where I was doing the pumps, but she was eager. Liked chica E. Since she reminded me of cute hs sweethearts of times past.
10.11-12 am, I relaxed & rested along with eating bit, then catched taxi to Face2 around 12-1 am, arrived in San Diego area in MDE where face2 is, cover was 10 k,inside very similar to HK in Tijuana main areas, only smaller but stage area / nearby booths / chairs and bar similar to HK in aesthethic, girls were on par as well. Lots groups dispersed drinking, tipping 2 k bills to stage chicas that came by (get 2 k bills in change from 50 k bill, helps here). I spent little time looking around & somewhat was too quick (there were hotter girls) & selected a normal 7 named F. Body like Luscious Lopez, mid20's paisa chica with medium tan, had hair died light color, was decent FS multiple positions for the base 45 m 210 k face2 rate, got my 1 pop & had decent time, average sesh but she was down to earth. Went back to club main stage after chica and myself returned to stage area.
11.2 am nearing 3 am now, was enjoying vibe in face2,got eye of a super hot light skin mulatto redbone chica, tall slender body all natural, she was busy on stage & I spent time waiting for her to come by, even talked up a hot girl named see. I got her number for later in report, ficha'd her & kept waiting for stunner to comenby, didn't happen so as I was back to seeing action a petite sexy 7 came by me I gave in, there were hotter chicas around, but I wasn't sure if all were good to go (next time just go up to them), went up with #11 A. As the girl #10 F. Was going with another monger so was somewhat LOL moment. So A. Looked hot enough to choose, had black small secretary type skirt, dressed nicely, caramel skin akin to Cassandra Cruz adultstar look, mid 20's,5 ft allnnatural body, not toned but fit. Session was on par with last chica,210 k decent sesh, but had to give effort towards my pop since place was closing 3 am & my room had received buzz on phone to finish, had success & chica said she was off to Faisanclub till 6 a. Called it night & headed back to hotel, Taxi back shared intel on San Diego area right by face2, lots SW action.
12. Now Saturday, headed back from centro hotel to my Poblado hotel to check back in there to stay my remaining trip there (going back & forth to centro hotel) 1 pm / noon, taxi time & commute took much of my noon / early day, begun action after 6-7 pm this Sat night in MDE, went to hotel bar around 7-8 p & met and ficha'd sexy high 7,if you like petite bodies body an 8,brown skinned, style like Harmony Wonder adultstar, all natural petite small chest slender cutie chica, early 20's, went to my rm & had good sesh 250 k since she said she needed taxi fair, 1 HR 1 pop, no rush, good to talk to. Got ready we where going to Lleras, however she was inviting her friend, likely would result in me having to spend 200 k+ on ea for drinks so I skipped & let her out but told her sesh was good. Later did repeat A. With her friend in trio as later mentioned in report.
13.10 p now washed up, rested few minutes, then headed back to hotel bar, met J. Early 20's high 6 in terms of looks, medium tan, all natural, had some baby damage in stomach so that's why I say 6,everything else was on par higher, managed a good sesh for usual 220 k, multiple positions, enjoying rubbing up on the nice cheeks with my rod like most chicas allowed me, fun times no complaints. HK chicas in Tijuana were rarely a 6 however, so girl next door all natural types were more common in MDE, offering more slow paced relaxed GFE-like sessions however, so makes up for difference. #13 was likely on the lower quality of this trip but session was good,1 pop & number went into my whatsapp as the routine up to now.
14.11 p-12 a, now charged again, rested went back to bar & spent few minutes talking to chicas in bar, chica named the. Spoke decent English & gave good convo small talk along with 2 nearby chicas sitting, I would choose her later this night, but this instance I was swept off feet by charm and allure of A. A early 20's hottie 8 in looks, body like Jynx Maze with silicone nice chest, hair was died light brwn / blonde, sexy classy tight blue dress, coke shaped body petite. Was a sight to behold in missionary, 220 k 1 pop, no rush, multiple positions, offered to massage me after we were done, nice and among best attitudes of chicas so far, right up there with hot HK talent in Tijuana & face2 chicas.
15.12 a-1 a went back to hotel bar, saw chica which was cute and got her ficha, hotness level 7, ebony girl named A. First and only coastal / costen'a chica I saw (Cali) in MDE, super chill no rush attitude, body not on the slim / petite side but more like Georgia Peach adult star in her prime or Beyonce in terms of body size / thickness / fit level. Bubble butt was amazing as cushion in her face down on belly position, all natural body, decent sized chest, had fun view of me pumping in mirror view, hot sight to behold, body looked hot. 220 k, 1 pop, she even said she had never been to Lleras so she was relatively new to MDE or the scene from what I gaged. Since she was new to area I didn't act on getting her number, should have since she was good in sack. Only saw 1 blk chica while in Tijuana HK, in MDE I already had sessioned with 2 & was enjoying it. At this point Tijuana & MDE were tie in terms of hotness to fun / value ratio.
16.1 a near 2 am, hotel-bar was closing soon & I popped back in with good energy, saw the the. Chica that spoke decent English in #14 chica, the. She asked for bottle of gin / Agua ardiente / whiskey on the pricier side from bar but I treated her to it (75 k, pricey ficha), the. Was late 20's,oldest chica in my opinion so far, slim body all natural, chest on small side, tan like Jynx Maze blk hair but more slender, long legs, sexy physique. Amazing look dolled up with eye mascara & makeup, pretty almond shaped eyes that were amazing to look at during long deep pumps, girl kept high heels on by my request. No rush session, passionate, deep french kissing, no holding back GFE all the way this one. 1 pop, GFE, DFK 1 HR 220 k. Gave her whiskey bottle as gift when she left to her pleasure, all smiles. Later did repeat with the. As shared moreover in this report.
17. Sunday now, I recall night before, after finishing with #16 I tried to get to Luna Lunera (well known stripclub / brothel) but they were closing as I got there between around 3 am, I figured it was open but it may have been operating less with the oncoming covid news from what I recall. Also not 100% sure if I did this attempt trek to LL Sat night or Mon night but it was near 2 h wasted from time I hailed taxi to getting bk (since I talked a bit with taxi and drove around looking for food to no avail since didn't find any interesting at time), whatever happened I begun day with chica action in El centro,[Deleted by Admin]
18. Went back to Poblado near evening,5-6 pm, went to hotel bar around 7 pm, and saw Laura 19 yo youthful spinner pocahontas sexy petite beauty with blk hair, native look, ala Jasmine Byrne / Harmony Wonder, less than 5 ft small frame, definite high 7 looks, girl next door all natural with small bubble butt and small see chest. Was super chill, ficha'd her at bar and off we went to my rm with her drink, was no rush, allowed DFK, didn't press me on how much just said "whatever you want to give", gave her 200 k 1 HR 1 pop. Didn't last long with this one, hot young spinner had me finish quick, was satisfied said bye to her after thanking her for good time.
19. Now it was 2 am bar was closing, only 1 chica was to be found, she was waiting on bartender to finish as she was leaving with her to their respective places dtown, it was buyers market since just me and her, so I chatted her up, J. A solid 6, maybe 7 body since she had coke shaped proportinate body (think Beyonce, but light complexion), looks like Luscious Lopez adultstar, but I pressed her if she had baby damage and confirmed when she was in my rm after I ficha'd her. If she was slightly more fit she would be high 7,but surprisingly the fact I chatted her more than most before, the session was slightly better, warm vag and fun session,1 pop 200 k 1 HR, no rush, near GFE. Passionate in way Tijuana girls weren't, she even tried moving her body even though I told her I wanted full control, we went thru this few times (me telling her to stop moving so I maintained my rhythm), liked her that she decided to try befriend me, as we finished she said she was giving her bartender friend ride to their places in dtown centro, I said I wanted to be be back dtown to wake up there in my hotel there, so we made plan, me trusting her a working girl to drive me thru dtown at 3-4 am, I hesitated at first but took the chance and said ok. No regrets, sesh below #20 is a repeat of this same J.
20.5 am now on Sun night / Mon. Morning and I am back in my dtown centro hotel after dropped off around 4 am, J. From #19 went to eat briefly with her bartender friend and said if I wanted her to text her etc, so I did via whatsapp, she came by and I let her in, told her I wasn't ready to go to sleep so wanted some company in the mean time & was unsure if I wanted FS but seeing as we had not planned this late repeat I would give her less if I could have at it, settled on 100 k for another round of her staying 1 HR. Enjoyed warm pink vag again for HR, long pumps, mostly missionary and some on top, her face down on her belly position, looked great in mirror, nice pumps in the shapely nice rump. Finished 1 pop, vibe was GFE style, no attitude whatsoever, no rush. Enjoyed 420 as she left, she showered and left me to rest near 6 am. Very interesting experience, didn't regret trusting this chica by far, hidden gem with high amount of fun, hospitality with this chica no doubt. Centro girls offer alot love I found out, she even offered to drive me around if I ever needed but didn't take her up on it due to schedule constraints.
21. Monday its now 3/16, began my day in centro, earlier a miscommunication in possible needed rm change in my poblado hotel had me commute from centro to poblado early noon however it was to no avail since my poblado hotel said I didn't have to change rooms, so seeing I wasted 1 HR in centro to poblado commute I went back to centro dtown hotel to continue adventures. Around 4-5 pm headed out centro near Bolivar / clle peru TS chicas area, & said Hi to TS chica the. 19 yo to 20's 7 in looks Jynx maze body tanner, petite brown skin body slender long legs liked her legs and body very feminine I saw it fit to go, off we went 45 min quote regular 50 k 1 pop, short time rm was 10 k 1 HR, got her ficha, good grk session, nice pear shaped small ample butt, nice view from top of cheeks spread as I pumped hardest I wanted to. All good fun, was amazed how feminine & GFE in attitude these TS chicas were. Again I was completely new to it.
22-23. Was now 6-7 p headed to Poblado hotel since I had prior texted J. From #3 & A. From #12 to have some 420 for me and I would chill with them at bar. Got there and A. Was waiting, took her to my rm for repeat session after ficha'd her at bar, before we started the fun with FS, I asked if she had hot friend and she showed me few pics of some chicas, I asked her I wanted slim girl with boobs, she to my surprise showed me J. From #3, I agreed since I liked her prior so she came in less than 20 minutes, so it was now a threesome session planned. J. brought tussi and both chicas shared it, we got in jacuzzi, I enjoyed their bodies, oogled & sucked on J. 's perfect silicone knockers in the warm hot tub. Was turned on tons when J. Chit chatted to A. How big my rod was, we then moved action to bed. I wasted no time & went at it with J. Her being the hottest of the two (a high 8 near 9 in hotness scale), amazed how this chica got me off so good, amazing eyes to stare at & perfect chest. 1 pop ea, even during my pop for A. I kept looking over at J. Since it got me off so good, both chicas near GFE like, no rush, 250 k to A. For getting her friend over for trio,& 200 k for J. 2nd trio in MDE, giving Tijuana steep competition in major ways at this point.
24-25. Tuesday action for 3/17 began shortly after noon, in dtown centro in plzbtro near statu3's,mus3 um & wasn't sure how to checkout or approach chicas posted nearby areas. Went to 2 ebony chicas I saw, had prospects with 1 only, but as I inquired if they were available in spanish they responded yes & I pressed how much & if they knew good short time rm they would be let in that's nice inside, we went to near short time room & she brought her chica friend along for trio, both 19 yo ebony girls, one J. Mocha lightskin complexion said was from Itagui, other said from Cauca & was more chocolate complexion, both solid 7's in looks, great bodies, nice legs, pretty faces, all natural girl next door look. Rm was 10-20 k got ea. Drinks (beer) & went to rm,1 pop ea. 50 k ea. , had bit under 50 k in bills for 2nd chica but she accepted the 40 ish k I gave her. No rush session, super relaxed, enjoyed myself, very pretty chicas both for 90 k + beers & rm (20 k). Was blown away right after this, wanted to explore more of dtown.
26. After I had gone back to my dtown hotel and rested, got downtime and ate, I trekked to the Bolivar / clle peru TS chicas area 5-6 pm, saw early 20's /19 yo high 6 or 7 TS chica, look of slim slender waist & shapely hips / butt got me & the. Took this TS chica to short time room as usual, 50 k grk session 1 pop, feminine style and great attitude. Other previous TS chicas A. And the. Were hotter by one number above but the grk was good here as well. No shame in the fun and new experiences had, always used protection.
27. Now it was past 7 pm, I may have gone back to my hotel to cleanup, get some minor downtime, relaxation, eating & went back to ground zero plzaBtro, spotted by the bronze tourist statu3's was a 19 yo shy chica forgot name, chica was very timid compared to other chicas, pretty, slim, slender, small chest, Harmony Wonder type body, bronze skin, Indian-Arab bit look, brown eyes,5 ft, blk hair. Solid 7 in looks allnatural. 30 k 30 min sesh in short time room, 1 pop, had negotiated for 2 pops at 50 k but place had understood I wanted 30 min instead of HR. So they knocked during my 2nd pop attempt, ruined my rhythm and I decided that was it, went to ask place why my 1 HR was not honored but dropped the issue & said bye to chica & we went seperate ways. Ok session but not best short time room, room was in Vracruz area, busy place, for 30 k 1 pop it was worth it.
28. Had told chicas from #22-23 to have some 420 for me when I arrived in poblado, J. And A. Were waiting for me as I got to my poblado hotel around 8 pm, smoked outside bar, 2 girls invited a new girl V. Petite slim brunette cutie with blk hair, pretty face, small chest, flat slender build, she came to enjoy 420 with us, so me and 3 hot paisa chicas sharing a doobie. Nice small talk and good vibes, afterwards I took J. From 22-23 for 3rd repeat, that perfect sight of her silicone chest & super sexy body and face, creamy skin & Kristina Rose look and bod had me had great session,200 k 1 pop GFE, passion filled fun, she enjoyed her tussi & was great fun. Was amazed I repeated not twice but 3 times with her.
29.11-12 am now, went back with J. To bar & chatted with A. And new chica V. , who turned out lives with J. And is best friends. Did on the spot quick interview (how many kids do you have, what age are you etc) before getting V. Ficha, but settled on her for taking to my rm, V. Was a hot near 8 in sexy body, overall high 7,slim body like Harmony Wonder light complexion blk hair. If she had perfect face or silicone chests she would have easily been 8-9. Very warm vag, tighter than previous chicas, some minor odor down there as I pumped but it didn't bother me much, pumped harder and more passionately and odor got stronger but it felt very warm, so overall didn't cramp on my style, popped and enjoyed sesh. Chica V. Was a bit more reserved, more mechanical in demeanor but I had less time knowing her than her 2 friends I knew so understandable, she was wearing tight blk dress, her slim slender look was appealing, long blk hair, olive tan skin, creamy complexion, 200 k 1 HR unrushed.
30. MDE was officially in another league in some aspects vs. Tijuana, and I was starting my last day / night of my trip, people were noticeably more on edge now (3/18), more facemasks worn public, taxis mentioning it more, chicas showing concern / worried more, all this happened fast while I was there, situation evolved quickly among public. People in dtown asking pharmacies when facemasks were arriving, shortage was already happening there while in the US more relaxed. I begun this day relatively early around 1-2 pm in dtown centro Vracrz area, went by food shop in corner & greeted very beautiful 19 yo chica which was 2 other chicas, both asked me to grab them some food or asked me for something I didn't per say listen to, asked if the chica I liked was with them & she spoke up, chose her, the. Was a Jynx Maze lookalike, Colombian Latina sweetheart stunner, prettiest so far, super hot high 8 or 9. 30 k for short time sesh, got room nearby for 10-20 k, chica asked for tips & I pressed her for DFK & she delivered, steamy passion filled but brief session 1 pop, warmest vag & hottest body yet, all natural. With tips for DFK around total 50 k. This chica was as hot as the slim 20 yo in my Tijuana HK report, just as tight & overall similar quality.
32. Still in Vracrz I walked side streets & locale lightly doing rounds,& came by hotel doorway where few chicas were,1 was decent 6 in looks, I wasn't looking for stunners & settled on her,30 k for 30 min sesh 1 pop was agreed & up the st room we went. Didn't get this one's name but she was only chica from Bogota I encountered, only "rolo / rola" chica met in MDE. Once in room I saw bigger stomach plus baby dmg than was visible initially, kind of bummed me out, but I got good look of her rump when she bared all & I decided I was going to get my pleasures worth, asked for grk action & she upsold for additional 50 k,so 80 k total, I went with it & got the 1 pop nonstop grk action to my delight, finished & off to the races I was. Was all smiles, grk short time at 80 k was decent.
33. Went back to my hotel in dtown, now it was 5-6 pm, trekked back to ground zero area after resting & usual downtime prep, and assessed the busy area, lots people, saw tall foreigner speaking Spanish to chica near musu3 m,she didn't go with him therefore I decided to go & take her up on an offer,30 k for this stunner petite straight hot 9 chica, only a 9 I say because she had perfect face, perfect slender body, legs, light creamy skin, natural brown / light hair, very cute 19 yo. Had issues going to short time room since one place didn't let her in but other place was no issue,20 k for short room, agreed to 2 pops for 50 k,with a go at it with grk action. Very warm vag, session was great, no rush, ate her rim & kitty cat smilingly,1 pop was mish vag, greek was attempted but too tight (she may have been applying squeeze / tightening on purpose on her sphincter who knows), so got 2nd pop vag again, good feeling, chica was friendly gave her wrigleys chewing gum as tip. 50 k 2 pops.
34.33 was my last play in ground zero in dtown, headed back to Poblado to enjoy last night in MDE, all bars and restaurants were now CLOSED, my hotel bar was closed, girls in dating apps were less wanting to go out, even had a lined up badoo app chica negotiations go sour since over whatsapp text she said she didn't want to go out, only indoors. Saw things were going to be slim, challenging, a sign of what was to come, MDE scene had now gone downhill. Lleras, all clubs, bars closed. Never made it to Isla Club, or Luna Lunera or Conejitas Bar Show, all closed now. No dining places, only delivery available. Changed fast. I contacted A. From #1 for a repeat session, she was among hottest chicas this whole trip, near 9 level chica, good silicone chest & near perfect face / body. Solid repeat session 200 k 1 HR, brought me 420 as well as requested. Sent her off & thanked her for coming to me when some girls wouldn't,was 9 pm when we finished. Concerns were in the air now, chicas expressing worries & some eerie pandemic vibes creeping in MDE. I wasn't paranoid however, still was downplaying it like most in the USA were then.
35. I noticed things were slow and nitelife was dead in such quick time,2 days prior it was in full swing but over past 2 days things had changed fast. The situation when I trekked to Luna Lunera and found it closed that weekend or Monday prior was beginning of the downturn. I decided to try some numbers I had lined up, one of chica met in face2 that I only talked to but didn't try out during my time there Friday night when I saw #10 & #11 respectively, so I chatted her via whatsapp, she apparently was unaware of face2 being closed she had notified me around 7-8 p to go see her at the club, but after I had finished with #33 I saw her txt in regards to face2 being closed, so she would come over for 300 k 1 HR, considering 210 k is her face2 rate, I knew it was more but out of options obliged, she came over. Well this was a starfish, silicone chest, fake butt, looked good but she was reserved way too much, prohibited me touching her boobs or butt, even scoffed at idea of me wanting to spread it,"hand off" type attitude, insane if you ask me but I guess she valued her implants more than letting me fondle them and move them. This irked me but I went forward gave 300 k for 1 HR to follow. Problems continued, many trivial games, complained for me to keep washing hands when I barely touched my body or near shaft, germaphobe mode activated on her part, became annoying, on way to put on rubber it didn't stop. She wanted all lights off, I said I wanted to have look of how hot she was to get off, she was divisive on this decision to the point it ruined mood. It was my room but she kept making issue of it, even turning half of lights was not good enough. I noticed we had burned thru near 30 min with BS,& I was seriously wanting to enjoy my full hour, so I offered 100 k more to ease her or if she would please my desires more. It backfired, covid & foreigner fatigue entered discussion, making it divisive even more since she wanted her way, all while no action begun. I got angry & told her I no longer cared for session with her and if she wasn't going to get F out my room and leave hotel I was going to tell reception she didn't want to leave. It was going no where and I soon learned when you outcall stripclub girls its a gamble, better to see them where they session best and earn less. No effort to please on her part. Sadly this session represents the time I burned out in MDE, akin to my #19 chica in my Tijuana HK report. Sent this chica packing. 400 k lost to BS chica.
36. Now it was my last chance at finishing my last night in MDE, all venues & spots were closed, now 1-2 am. Finished 420 chica had brought me earlier outside around 1 am chilling outside by trees, then remembered the. From #16 the chica who was ecstatic when I ficha'd her a gin / whiskey bottle, txted her on whatsapp & she said she would come to me, it was 2 am, she came before 3 am. This was the finale and farewell session, & I tried to do my best, had music going and was not tired per say, but I couldn't get it up like all other sessions. Maybe the BS I put up with the failed face2 outcall drama hampered my composure, couldn't relax. I tried for near 30 min no avail, settled on letting me get rock hard rubbing up barebck on her bare ass, no penetration but liberal rubbing up basically no rules skin to skin, it got me hard & surprisingly spent near full 10 min enjoying this, I needed something new and thrilling & this was enough, busted without rubber on her rump & cleaned it off as I busted. Happy camper I was, was lame not being able to pump like all other sessions, but 30+ chicas in 1st time experience in MDE was one of a kind. Hopefully MDE and COL returns to its former glory.
MDE: 9 out 10 in my experience.
Tijuana: 8.5 out of 10.
Can't wait to come back. 2020/21 in sight.
Hang in there man, your younger versus a lot of other members on this board so you will have many more years to enjoy Medellin. When I talk to my kids about things, not what we do, but what's going on in the World today, I explain to them that when they are older, this will all of just been a speed bump in their lives. Try to imagine the guys over sixty like myself, we've crossed third base and are headed to the finish line, whereas guys like yourself haven't even made it to second base. Try to think of how frustrating this is for the older guys having their wings clipped and being grounded, whereas you have many more years of fun ahead of you so your just going to need to be patient, and yes, I too have memories of the incredible experiences I have had in Medellin, which are etched in my head, like yours, to savior and help pass the time until things open back up.Thanks for the emotional support! We all belong to this specific era of Medellin; its beauty is unique to our time. The only upside I can see from this quarantine is that it made me appreciate what I had in Medellin more than before.
Costa Rica just announced it would open for international travelers on 8/1 but restricted to the EU, UK, and Canada, passengers must show a negative COVID test result within 48 hours before boarding the plane. (https://www.ministeriodesalud.go.cr/index.php/centro-de-prensa/noticias/741-noticias-2020/1813-apertura-de-vuelos-comerciales-al-pais-inicia-el-01-de-agosto-con-trayectos-limitados-desde-europa) The specific language they used did not mention passports; as long as the flight is originated from Canada, they will let you in. I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?
Monday
My short-time Nov-Dec trip love interest came over. It was nice to see her. She moved in with a friend, and I'm sure she'll be doing citas soon. Not sure how else she intends to pay rent. We did the standard: dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, fuck. She stayed the night and left in the afternoon. Todo sin condon. I think it was once at night, once in the morning, but maybe twice that night. Uber / Didi cost 23.000 & 18.000. When she was leaving, the Uber was 18mins away. She told me to cancel because it's too far away. I explained, it's not like I chose the far one, and there are five siting in the parking lot. So, I end up canceling and the next one is 15mins. All good! Even though it took 3mins to do and should have cost me money to cancel.
She messaged me saying she'll come back whenever I want, if she can find a way to make some money. I might see her again, might not.
Wednesday
I started messaging in the evening. Wifey wanted to come back, but I was already down the rabbit hole. I genuinely don't know if I'll see her for more than 1-2 more threesomes, assuming that option is on the table. Anyway, I had a few that said not last night. I connected with a girl I had chatted with before, around 11 p. She was ready within about 30 mins. Typical fucking Paisa bullshit, this girl sends me an address that doesn't come up on Uber or Didi, so I have to use an address that is near. Didi arrives, she can't find him. I tell her where he is, I tell him to find her address. Communication is spotty, throughout. I ask her if she can pay and I'll pay her back. She says she has no money. Miraculously, she is able to borrow money, and finds her own taxi. So, I have to cancel the Didi ride. They get stopped by police, but no problems..Bro,
Reading your reports is the definition of "bitter and sweet. " You are in heaven, and I'm in hell, I wish I'm in a position to complain about 18-year-old Paisa's lack of directionality.
I can easily recall numerous occasions when I turned down a smoking-hot Paisa because of her lack of directionality. One of my favorite 19-year-old had a massive fight with me because I think she took too long to get cigarettes. I lived deep inside Provenza, 30 seconds walk from OCIs, it will take her some time to get to a store to buy cigarettes. Because I had so many 18-year-olds to choose from every night while I was in Medellin, I was very picky. I told a smoking hot 19-year-old (whom I have been fucking since she was 18) to fuck off because she took an extra 10 minutes to get her cigarettes. She would do a TLN for 300 K (pesos, roughly 100 dollars) and bring over 5 grams of tussi for 200 k pesos (she will snore 4 out of the 5 grams for sure, but I love a tussi infused Fxxx -- I can disclose her real name, but it starts with an F). Man, talk about regret, my fucking dinner tonight costed 115 dollars! In my current situation, I'm willing to pay 1000 dollars for a night with a 19-year-old like Fxxxx in San Francisco, too bad it will cost me close to 10,000 dollars here, which is beyond my budget.
Sincerely, bro, cherish what you have right now, from a by standard's perspective, you are extremely fortunate. This fucking lockdown made me regret many things I have done while I was in Medellin, you don't want to end up with similar regrets one day.
More importantly, Please keep fucking them paisas for all of us.
The Tall Man
07-24-20, 15:18
A girl from a pueblo on the outskirts, really good looking light skinned strawberry blonde, asked about coming over today. I was trying to get her over last night. She quoted me 900k. I told here we're not even close, and that was the second-highest number I've heard in Medellin. It's not, but at the time, I was only thinking of this trip. I got her down to 400k + taxis (I offered 400k for TLN no rules). I doubt I'll take her up on anything, but she does have a very unique look. Actually, she said taxis are 90k each way, so I'm definitely not going to pay 180k for transportation, when I can have Pinky & Wifey, together, for less than that.Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.
And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.
Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
07-24-20, 15:32
On the dying grandma, sick cat subject.
There was 1 girl who I regularly sent money to. Started out as 200 k about every 6 weeks. Eventually it had grown to 400 k per month. Then once the quarantine hit, she started asking for more. Around the first week of June she kept pushing her upcoming birthday, so I sent some extra. Just before her birthday I sent 700 k, more than enough for her birthday and groceries. She acted offended and immediately got blocked. Haven't talked to her since.
Now the funny part. She was always laying the "te amo" crap on me and telling me that she was saving herself for me. No dates, no other guys. Yeah right. Two weeks after I blocked her, her mother messages me to tell me she is pregnant.This "te amo" crap your relating hit a nerve with me, so true.
Just in the past 2 years 2 of whom I would have considered as decent paisa chicas whom both I had befriended and been with a number of times well both of them would swear on a room filled stack of bibles of their undeniable and everlasting love and devotion to me, they are mine and mine only (right, hehehehe) anyway both got pregnant from either their barrio ladrones or ex-boyfriends and they can't understand why I can't overlook their "situation" and forgive them and continue on like it was before.
You can't make this shit up. They expect me to be responsible for their "situation" and "help them out". Ah no thanks!
They are all putas, don't kid yourself if you think anything otherwise.
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
07-24-20, 16:04
Just keeping things real and on topic for the Botero and the Vera centro lovers.
With total lock-down imminent from Friday through midnight Sunday (3 days) in Medellin (was 4 days last weekend) wanted to see what was out in the plaza and surrounding areas of centro so spent about 4 hours with boots on the ground yesterday Thursday July 23rd.
My wing man was able to join me a few hours into my afternoon centro visit and when he did we made a number of walking tours around the area, got some new contact numbers and eventually found 2 new girls that neither one of us had session-ed with before.
After some brief negotiations we settled in on a price and took them both to my wing mans apartment outside of Medellin. Had a mini party with some drinks, food, snacks, dancing, listening to music and just enjoying the company of a couple of great friendly attitude laden chicas.
After a few hours of conversation and music we paired off and what a surprise and treat when I experienced my chicas lactating breast milk into my mouth, a treat indeed as just to suck on those large milk filled fun bags was worth the price of admission, hehehehehe.
I always keep my expectations in check when I play with a new girl and let me say that I was blown away, my girl was off the charts with her sexuality and passion, she loves dick and I was the chosen one to smash her pussy every which way, after about 45 minutes I wanted to nut in her mouth which she welcomed, a real trooper which I will repeat.
The agreed upon price of 120 mil + taxi for 3 hours plus was paid and my girl was worth every peso of it. You just never know.
Now today through Monday it will be like a ghost town in centro but I for one am satisfied that we were able to get out yesterday.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.
I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?My essential purpose to go to Mexico was to shack up with a Chica and bang the krap out of her in a luxury hotel Suite with a Jacuzzi and room service.
As far as crossing the border it was a joke, the only question they asked was how many days are you staying, and then a temperature check. However they have recently been requiring foreigners to pay approximately $ 20 USD for a visa which is good for multiple crossings over a six month period. This way the Mexican Government is making some money. As far as your question, I have the business card of a dentist in Tijuana I know. I was going to tell them I have a dental appointment to get a crown if asked. The most shocking part upon crossing the border though was that there was no signage before entering Mexico saying that travel was only limited to "essential travel", and you know what that means in my book.
I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...xemptions.html). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?Entry ban usually ban origin, not nationality. I think Costa Rica is missing some requirements. Usually there will be a condition that the incoming visitors can't be in some countries 14 days before. Maybe they think the test will cover it but then why ban visitors from US? The other issue is that they do not require a test after arrival. This presents a gap which will be a problem.
I think Colombia must have thought the virus would be gone by September so they allow international flight without conditions. Now they know the virus won't go away so the old plan would need to be revised.
If they want to do it right, they need to be able to monitor incoming visitors after arrival and during quarantine. Nothing like that are in place. If they could track and control people movement like that, Medellin would have zero case now. The other issue with quarantine is there may not be enough facilities for quarantine purpose. They will need to prioritize and the limit the number of visitors in that case.
AdventureSeekr
07-24-20, 22:07
I'm willing to pay 1000 dollars for a night with a 19-year-old like Fxxxx in San Francisco, too bad it will cost me close to 10,000 dollars here, which is beyond my budget.
100% you can get some gorgeous young chicks on SA to smash for $1000 a night in SF. Even $500 a night, ask me how I know. LOL.
I try to avoid saying shit on here that will lead to bad blood. This is why I stay away from "send me money" threads. The other reason I keep it brief on this subject is all but the most inexperienced newbies know they have nothing to gain by doing it, so there is no point beating a dead horse. Also, I am a strong believer that we have the right to spend our money however we choose that does not infringe on anyone's dignity or human rights. I can't hold my tongue however when I read illogical rationalizations and excuses. We need to be honest with ourselves or we risk going over to the dark side of romance scams and other weirdness.
Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.
And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.
Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.
The Tall Man.
Entry ban usually ban origin, not nationality. I think Costa Rica is missing some requirements. Usually there will be a condition that the incoming visitors can't be in some countries 14 days before. Maybe they think the test will cover it but then why ban visitors from US? The other issue is that they do not require a test after arrival. This presents a gap which will be a problem.
I think Colombia must have thought the virus would be gone by September so they allow international flight without conditions. Now they know the virus won't go away so the old plan would need to be revised.
If they want to do it right, they need to be able to monitor incoming visitors after arrival and during quarantine. Nothing like that are in place. If they could track and control people movement like that, Medellin would have zero case now. The other issue with quarantine is there may not be enough facilities for quarantine purpose. They will need to prioritize and the limit the number of visitors in that case.The test must be within 48 hours of entry to Costa Rica. There is a gap, yes, but minimal. They make you fill out some forms and declarations. Who knows what those are, but probably at least a recent history of travel. And the ban is based on passport, nationality, not where the flight originated. As far as tracking and monitoring. I don't know. But Costa Rica is a basket case of increasing infections right now. Hence they require health insurance and extended stay insurance.
And the ban is based on passport, nationality, not where the flight originated. As far as tracking and monitoring. I don't know. But Costa Rica is a basket case of increasing infections right now. Hence they require health insurance and extended stay insurance.Does ban nationality makes sense to you? I don't know about Costa Rica. The other countries I know only ban flight origin.
For example, here it says it will allow flights originated from Canada. It does not mention passport.
Tambin se autorizan viajes originados en el Reino Unido y Canad en los prximos meses.
100% you can get some gorgeous young chicks on SA to smash for $1000 a night in SF. Even $500 a night, ask me how I know. LOL.I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:
Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.
10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.
SlapShot10
07-25-20, 00:52
Bro,
Sincerely, bro, cherish what you have right now, from a by standard's perspective, you are extremely fortunate. This fucking lockdown made me regret many things I have done while I was in Medellin, you don't want to end up with similar regrets one day.
More importantly, Please keep fucking them paisas for all of us.I got lucky. I ended up in Medellin for what was, by far, my longest trip (one month) in November. Then, I was itching to come back so bad. I don't know if I had a premonition or what, but when the virus talk started, I booked a flight. Things were changing and shutting down, right as I was supposed to leave. 4.5 months later, and I will never forget (ok, I've already forgotten about 50%) my time here. I genuinely think I will live here, some day. That is, unless a new Medellin comes about, and it has a beach.
Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.
And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.
Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.
The Tall Man.Agreed. I played along because I didn't have anything lined up, but I wouldn't have paid 400, let alone + 180 for taxis. I was just laughing as I was reading your post, because I had already forgot about her, and your post reminded me she sent me a video on WhatsApp about an hour ago, as I was banging the coin slot. I just watched it. Some sexy dancing in a bikini. Not going to cut it, but if any of you video guys sitting at home want her contact, PM me.
I try to avoid saying shit on here that will lead to bad blood. This is why I stay away from "send me money" threads. The other reason I keep it brief on this subject is all but the most inexperienced newbies know they have nothing to gain by doing it, so there is no point beating a dead horse. Also, I am a strong believer that we have the right to spend our money however we choose that does not infringe on anyone's dignity or human rights. I can't hold my tongue however when I read illogical rationalizations and excuses. We need to be honest with ourselves or we risk going over to the dark side of romance scams and other weirdness.I don't know if you clicked reply on the wrong post, but I didn't understand how this related. Valid point, nonetheless.
Last night, SA 18 yo, cute face, on-time, petite. Her photos in SA are all my type. She sent new photos, so it wasn't a surprise that her hair was pinkish-blonde. It would appear to me that a lot of Paisas got bored during quarantine and either gave themselves bangs, or dyed their hair some strange color. I made dinner. She didn't drink. So, I stuck to Ron Zacapa. Lots of laughing. A great genuine connection. She isn't a stunner, but a typical cute 18 yo girl with a killer personality and a closet freak! She didn't bring a bikini. So, it was game on once we got in the jacuzzi. I had her standing over me as I was sitting on the bench seat, and I ate her out before we ever shared a kiss. She asked for a condom and I said they're downstairs. So, no condom. Standard routine, but you would have never ever ever expected this girl to be a nympho, based on appearance or conversation. We had round two later, and she stayed for hours. We had plenty of inside jokes by the time she left. She was extremely helpful with my Spanish, which was refreshing. She swallowed for round 2. All-in-all, a one-way Uber fee of 13.200 COP. Not sure if I'll repeat, but I think it's likely. She's one of those girls that's perfect for a mid-week relaxing night.
I was planning on Pinky coming over, tonight. But, the newly-named Coin Slot, from Thursday, wanted to come over. I told Pink tomorrow, and Coin Slot said 30mins to get ready. The fucking Uber took 1h15m to get her here, and she lives less than 2 miles away. Chalk up another transportation nightmare story. So, the plan is 200 for a few hours, but her mom wants her home by 6p. She comes over in a body suit and overcoat, no panties, no bra. I give her some chips, she says nothing to drink, but I convince her to have a Smirnoff Ice. Jacuzzi, it's pouring rain. Another no bikini episode. She didn't want to borrow the one the bailarina left. She's so fucking tight we can't get it in, in the jacuzzi, and she doesn't want to be propped up because she thinks everyone is watching from the surrounding buildings. We head inside for round 1. I'm so torn between how much I enjoy how tight she is, fucking her, and her squirming away, and on the flip side, her discomfort. Todo sin condon. Round 2 is downstairs in my bed. We start by me going down on her, and she tells me just how she likes it. As if I was feeding on a tit. I banged her for a while. Her mom called 4-5 times, as 6p was approaching. I was sweating and we finally gave up. I could tell she was distracted, and I couldn't give her a good enough pounding to pop, without feeling bad. Gave her 240 and I'm sure we'll repeat. She showed me pictures of her hot 21yo sister who apparently gives Spanish lessons. I might look into that.
So, I think Pinky tomorrow, and maybe I'll catch up on SA over the next couple days, to arrange something for Sunday. Anyone experiencing any hesitation to travel by the chicas? Today's was nervous. I told her the police don't want to be out standing in the rain giving fines. She made it back and forth, no problem.
Does ban nationality makes sense to you? I don't know about Costa Rica. The other countries I know only ban flight origin.
For example, here it says it will allow flights originated from Canada. It does not mention passport.May be right. I'm not sure. But it makes no sense to allow Americans to fly into Toronto, for example, and then on to Costa Rica.
And the current flights available are all US airlines flying from the US. Only Americans aren't allowed to fly to Costa Rica on them. So I guess I assumed that this would be the same sort of deal.
The only flights I can get from Canada right now are connections through the US. So yes, my flight originates in Canada. But I change planes in the US.
Anyway. Needs more clarification for sure. As far as I can find there are nor will be any direct flights from Canada to CR any time soon.
May be right. I'm not sure. But it makes no sense to allow Americans to fly into Toronto, for example, and then on to Costa Rica.
And the current flights available are all US airlines flying from the US. Only Americans aren't allowed to fly to Costa Rica on them. So I guess I assumed that this would be the same sort of deal.
The only flights I can get from Canada right now are connections through the US. So yes, my flight originates in Canada. But I change planes in the US.
Anyway. Needs more clarification for sure. As far as I can find there are nor will be any direct flights from Canada to CR any time soon.I went and looked again. Still not totally clear. All of the news prior to the announcement focused on the nationalities of people that would be allowed in. I. e. European, British, Canadian.
But the actual announcement seemed to focus more on flights. Which is odd, since the current commercial flights are US companies flying in with people that are allowed to enter. Costa Rican citizens, diplomats, etc.
My interpretation of all of it is that citizens of those countries can fly in on whatever flights are available, and will be allowed into the country providing they follow the rules as laid out. And that eventually there will be direct flights from those places. And that citizens of countries not allowed in will not be allowed to board those planes, whether they originate in the US, or wherever (same as is currently the case).
Hey everyone,
Just wanted to say Hi and that I have RTFF (went back 600 pages) took me a few weeks but hate to ask annoying questions that can be found by reading. I do have a few posts on the Argentina Private forum but was looking to switching gears to Colombia. Looking forward to getting to Colombia when all international travel is permitted but realize that it might not be until 2021. Any way, just saying Hi and hope everyone is staying safe and hope I can share some experiences when I get there, I'm sure I'll have questions but this is enough for an intro post.
Lumi.
AdventureSeekr
07-25-20, 05:09
I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:
Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.
10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.
My interpretation of all of it is that citizens of those countries can fly in on whatever flights are available, and will be allowed into the country providing they follow the rules as laid out. And that eventually there will be direct flights from those places. And that citizens of countries not allowed in will not be allowed to board those planes, whether they originate in the US, or wherever (same as is currently the case).It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.
I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.
Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.
Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.Sounds good, I will give SA a try. Thanks.
I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.Ofarrel use to be my favorite place when I was in my early 20's, it was 2006-7. I use to go there every Thursday for a CBJ for 200 dollars from a super tall blonde, in those small damn rooms, a FS will not be enjoyable for me. A typical FS there is fully covered and you are out of there in less than 40 minutes. Once I discovered the FKKs in Europe, Brazil and Thailand, I never went back there again. For me, spending 200 dollars for a fully covered 30 minute FS with an eye candy who is overt 21, is no where nearly to anything I can find in Medellin.
It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.
I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.You can take a look at the first paragraph of "Entry to Hong Kong". This is how Asian countries are implementing it. If you are in a low risk country, it is easier for you to move around between countries. Passport is only significant when you are a citizen and they must allow you in so some countries wave the
test requirement.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong/entry-requirements
Thanks for the emotional support! We all belong to this specific era of Medellin; its beauty is unique to our time. The only upside I can see from this quarantine is that it made me appreciate what I had in Medellin more than before.
Costa Rica just announced it would open for international travelers on 8/1 but restricted to the EU, UK, and Canada, passengers must show a negative COVID test result within 48 hours before boarding the plane. (https://www.ministeriodesalud.go.cr/index.php/centro-de-prensa/noticias/741-noticias-2020/1813-apertura-de-vuelos-comerciales-al-pais-inicia-el-01-de-agosto-con-trayectos-limitados-desde-europa) The specific language they used did not mention passports; as long as the flight is originated from Canada, they will let you in. I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?I cross the border into and out of Canada twice each week. Except for all the other trucks, almost nobody is crossing. Yesterday was the first time I've seen more than 1 car crossing and I saw 7. Normally entering Canada is quick and painless, but the cars were taking 5 minutes and up to clear the booth.
My paperwork makes it simple for me. I'm crossing on essential business. I'm assuming you would need something official to get across. Canada is pretty laid-back, but they aren't quite as open as Mexico.
Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks!
Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks!The answer to your question depends on your income, technically anyone with a visa who is in Colombia more than six months a year is considered a "tax resident" and must file with DIAN which is Colombia's IRS. Whether you will owe taxes seems to change from time to time and they have a weird formula based on your personal wealth and what is considered in the calculation. I believe retirement accounts such as 401 K's, pensions, etc are not used in the equation. At the end of the day, if you have a good accountant you will pay the difference between what you would of paid in Colombia versus what you actually paid in the USA. So for guys living on a pension with most of their monies in retirement accounts they might not be paying much of anything. Again, you need a good Colombian accountant, and the filing is a joke in that only a one page form is submitted with no back-up and although DIAN and the USA have what I believe is a tax treaty, DIAN is limited in how much information they can actually verify when a foreigner files a tax return in Colombia. And they are very happy when a foreigner pays taxes to them!
Every persons situation is different, and for a person contemplating living in Medellin, they should get with an accountant. Also, DIAN is becoming more and more sophisticated, and there are a lot of foreigners living in Medellin who do not file a tax return when required to, and may have issues in the future renewing their visas.
Perhaps some of the other half dozen members who live in Colombia can better explain and correct what I have said. Again you need to get with a Colombian accountant on this because everybody's situation is different.
It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.
I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.All the statements prior to Friday made by officials in Costa Rica (as reported in the various news outlets) were about citizens from certain countries being allowed in. I'm assuming that would be citizens and legal residents. Then, when the announcement was made it talked about flights. There are no direct flights from Canada at the moment so this is meaningless in that sense (as far as Canada or Canadians).
All in all I think the intent is about allowing or not allowing people from various countries come in. Whether I like it or not. But I agree, there needs to be a much clearer statement from the CR authorities.
SlapShot10
07-25-20, 15:46
Sounds good, I will give SA a try. Thanks.You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.
I've never used it in the US, so I can't comment on that. I have a fairly private photo, and then normal photos which you can approve access to.
Just stumbled across this.
https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/
Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks!I have a Migrant Visa. You need to see an accountant about your particular situation if you are a tax resident.
Looks like the earliest date for tourism is November. We'll see how that goes.
https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/?fbclid=IwAR0L0gficro14gnbbYQ1su3ute0_r2HqNPFY39cmy4mqo7jrbQi8isHQSKo
Looks like the earliest date for tourism is November. We'll see how that goes.
https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/?fbclid=IwAR0L0gficro14gnbbYQ1su3ute0_r2HqNPFY39cmy4mqo7jrbQi8isHQSKoThanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecución planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviación general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?
Thanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecucin planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviacin general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?It is all conjecture at this point. Keep in mind, Medellin is currently under a strict quarantine on the weekends and alcohol sales are limited. The Covid peak is projected to be in August. Who knows how long the State of Emergency / Quarantine will actually last?
Domestic air travel is just now being piloted. If they allow outsiders in during September, it would likely be Colombians and certain visa holders. Tourist visas aren't expected to be available until at least November. November seems like the best case scenario at this point. I can't get into speculation about freight or any other type of air travel that may occur in September.
Nil Admirari
07-25-20, 19:50
Thanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecucin planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviacin general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?In response to your question, per one official definition, "General Aviation is all civilian flying except Scheduled passenger airline service" and, as such, would seem to include business flights as well. Perhaps an opening here for the monger well-heeled (and horny) enough to spring for a private charter flight from abroad back to the Promised (Pussy) Land (after what seems to have been 40 biblical years in the desert).
All the statements prior to Friday made by officials in Costa Rica (as reported in the various news outlets) were about citizens from certain countries being allowed in. I'm assuming that would be citizens and legal residents. Then, when the announcement was made it talked about flights. There are no direct flights from Canada at the moment so this is meaningless in that sense (as far as Canada or Canadians).
All in all I think the intent is about allowing or not allowing people from various countries come in. Whether I like it or not. But I agree, there needs to be a much clearer statement from the CR authorities.This link has no ambiguity. This is pretty much the standard way to set restriction, same thing in the HK link I posted earlier. There is no ban that I have read is based solely on nationality unless I misunderstand the meaning.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html
All the articles I have read, including the one in Spanish posted earlier have not mentioned passport or nationality requirement. Most of them say "tourists from" or something similar.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-costa-rica/costa-rica-to-reopen-two-airports-to-tourists-idUSKCN24P00C
https://ticotimes.net/2020/07/23/costa-rica-reopening-for-tourists-from-eu-uk-and-canada
I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:
Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.
10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.My experience about price is similar to yours. One can get fresh college girls for as low as $250/ HR when backpage and other review sites were still available. The price will go up once the girl has some experience, and will eventually settle on $300 or $350. Some hot ones will double the price but it is not difficult to negotiate to reduce the price by $100 or so. During weekend one can even pick up street girls from out of town, some college girls too. The better quality ones charged almost the same amount. There were hotel/motel that were just like casas once you were aware of what's going on. I was so surprised once in Marriott that young prostitutes just running around in the lobby and going from room to room to chat with friends.
Based on my own SA experience, the standard rate is $500 per meet, you also pay for hotel if you need it, so it is not necessary cheaper. The length of the meet I think will depend on both parties and situation. It is cheaper if you make a monthly arrangement. There are a lot of scammers so it is going to take time.
You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.
I am in a situation that is opposite to yours. There are many tourists and prostitutes who can't go back to their own countries at where I am now. They are stranded and need income. The SB price is reasonable but still not cheap. The prostitutes always start with a very high price but not much negotiation is needed before they drop their price to as low as 1/3 of the original price. Just today, one of them asked me for some money for food.
It is all conjecture at this point. Keep in mind, Medellin is currently under a strict quarantine on the weekends and alcohol sales are limited. The Covid peak is projected to be in August. Who knows how long the State of Emergency / Quarantine will actually last?
Domestic air travel is just now being piloted. If they allow outsiders in during September, it would likely be Colombians and certain visa holders. Tourist visas aren't expected to be available until at least November. November seems like the best case scenario at this point. I can't get into speculation about freight or any other type of air travel that may occur in September.Thanks. I have spoken to my lawyer in Medellin last months, he said the following about business visa. I'm quoting him verbatim:
1) The visa processes are currently on a halt due to COVID, the only way to request a Business Visa is if you were currently in Colombia / or when the embassies abroad re-open. 2) The international flights will be closed until August 31st (the government could change this), so even with a business visa, you will not be allowed to travel here. 3) The business visa is similar to the tourist visa in that you can only stay in Colombia for a maximum period of 180 continuous or discontinuous non-extendable days in each 365 days of visa use.
The lawyer mentioned he doesn't think it would be necessary for me to get a Business Visa. He said, in general, the process to get a business visa is fairly simple once the immigration services re-open. I'll call him on Monday to start the application process. It's likely a business visa holder can go in from Canada in September.
This link has no ambiguity. This is pretty much the standard way to set restriction, same thing in the HK link I posted earlier. There is no ban that I have read is based solely on nationality unless I misunderstand the meaning.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html
All the articles I have read, including the one in Spanish posted earlier have not mentioned passport or nationality requirement. Most of them say "tourists from" or something similar.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-costa-rica/costa-rica-to-reopen-two-airports-to-tourists-idUSKCN24P00C
https://ticotimes.net/2020/07/23/costa-rica-reopening-for-tourists-from-eu-uk-and-canadaI believe the EU restrictions are based on country of residence. That being. Where you are a legal resident (citizen, landed immigrant, work visa holder, etc.) Canadians can go to Europe now, at least parts of it, while US residents cannot. In that case it has nothing to do with what flight you come in on. Either passport or document supporting residence.
When I flew out of Colombia there were a lot of people with boarding passes that were turned away at the gate as they did not have a Canadian or US passport or documents supporting Canadian or US residence. That was in March. So perhaps I'm assuming Costa Rica is basing it on country of residence. But I could be wrong. In which case Americans would have no problem going there by merely booking through Canada or Europe. But the 48 hour test result window will be a problem for everyone to hit if you have connecting flights, so this is probably a non issue.
The airlines will have it cleared up soon I would expect. They should have a warning if it is based on residence. Which they had in Colombia when I left, but a lot of people ignored it and booked online, got their boarding passes, and got turned away at the gate.
I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.That was 20 years ago. Prices haven't gone up?
You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.
I've never used it in the US, so I can't comment on that. I have a fairly private photo, and then normal photos which you can approve access to.Great, thanks for the advice. I will sign up as soon as I finalize my plan to get back into Medellin. How reliable are the age of the girls on SA, in the case of Facebook, I have to do a lot of work to screen out girls who are using fake Ids. I would so pay for a service that can help me screen out under age girls.
That was 20 years ago. Prices haven't gone up?Sorry, I did not mean to imply that prices have held steady. Indeed, they have gone up along with prices in general.
However, there was an evolution. For example, in the early 2000's, Korean nationals were granted special status similar to Japanese nationals and EU nationals. Hence, a person with a Korean passport could enter the US without a visa and get a 90-day stay from the day they enter the US. Soon after, there were plane load after plane load of Korean WGs. I discovered them in 2008 and I have not attempted to look for a white girl ever since. The Asian WGs charge a lot less and are so much nicer. That allowed prices to plateau a bit for those who were satisfied with Asians.
As for white girls, I switched to FKKs in Germany, where a session used to cost 50 Euros for half an hour. This was in 2006 and the official cost of a session at the FKKs is still 50 Euros today. A lot of eye candy was lost as a result.
Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.
With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.
I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.
This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.
Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?
On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!
• A member for more than 6 months,
• A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.
• And not have any infraction.
I believe the EU restrictions are based on country of residence. That being. Where you are a legal resident (citizen, landed immigrant, work visa holder, etc.) Canadians can go to Europe now, at least parts of it, while US residents cannot. In that case it has nothing to do with what flight you come in on. Either passport or document supporting residence.I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.
I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.It's not based on nationality, some of my friends confirmed it by personal experience. If a country has any sense they will realize how unreasonable and ineffective it is to ban travelers base on their nationalities.
I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.
There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.
If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:
Motel LOS Dos. Http://motellosdos.com.co.
Motel SolYLuna. https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/.
Motel Motivos. https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/.
Motel El Bosque. https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/.
Motel Aries. https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/.
Elvis 2008
07-26-20, 17:05
I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:
Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.
One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".
To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.
The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women.
SJobs, I have noticed similar pricing structure to you but it is less in my area because I live in a place where living expenses are lower. The reason California is more expensive than other parts of the country IMO is because living expenses are so high. The question then becomes what is your time worth and can you achieve time flexibility to visit women other lower cost parts of the world so you do not have to pay the high California prices.
Recently, I have quit the SB thing in the USA. It was not the expense as much as the legal issues. The male sex drive has been too demonized in the USA, and that is what the crackdown on human trafficking is, a way for law enforcement to steal money from those in the P4P game. The legal situation has also IMO inflated P4P costs in the USA.
The irony about Colombia is that I found the women to be much LESS greedy than women in the USA It may be that the women are much less experienced but also I think that there is something to be said about just meeting an American man. The best experiences I had were when no price was mentioned. The most I paid for an evening in Colombia was $140, and the average was $100 with no by the hour crap.
For all I have knocked Covid, honestly, I have been taking more advantage of the disruption than anyone I know. Covid has allowed remote access to work more possible than ever before. While most people are scared of flying, I have taken advantage of cut rate prices and empty resorts in Mexico. Officially, you are supposed to travel to Mexico for essential purposes. In reality, no one asks you anything. I have been cementing relationships with the 10's I have met in Mexico City, and the traffic here is blissfully way down.
By getting myself a job with great time flexibility, I have been able to travel to Mexico often. I took a Mexican beauty to a resort where I paid half price and spent 3 days with her. The total I paid her was $600 for all three days.
I was at her place yesterday. The most upscale neighborhood in Mexico City is Polanco, and she lives there because it is safe. Quite frankly, it was refreshing to see this beauty be so happy with so little possessions and a tiny place. Thing is she is paying only $450 a month for her place. I have seen furnished places in almost as nice parts of town for $600, and I am thinking of moving her there and flying into Mexico City, only a 2 hour flight, to get my sexual needs met. She was excited at the idea. And this girl is so hot that when she was walking down the ramp to meet me in Cancun all the Mexican cab drivers were hooting and hollering at her.
Thing is that it is not just her. I have three others I am working on. I may do this one and another woman and with the others just do PPM action. There are a ton of hot women here from Venezuela and Colombia, and there is a smattering of Europeans as well. One Vennie I met has done bikini modeling all over the Americas. She is a good actress to boot. She is a 10 in terms of looks, personality, and performance.
I am not sure this will last. All the women I met lost their jobs due to Covid. Anyway, I think the notion of paying $2000 to $5000 a night now is batshit crazy. I am hoping once Colombia opens up that I will be able to settle on the best women there. I can keep Colombia for 5 to 7 day adventures and Mexico for weekend excursions. From a pussy point of view, although Colombia is off limits, Covid for me has been a godsend.
PolloNegro
07-26-20, 17:15
Sunday July 26,2020.
I have been having $100 mil 3 some every day for the 2 -3 weeks. Trust me, the Medellin that you may have known before March 15,2020 is not the same Medellin that it is today. People are starving, businesses are suffering and Bogota has stated that it's healthcare. I cannot tell you the benefit of having a list of girls that you want to bang. Everyone knows that my girls of choice usually come from Centro, Parque Botero or Parque Berrios.
Maybe there are BM's who are not ready to admit it, but the Colombian economy is going down the drain and going down the drain rapidly. I have given up hope of leaving Colombia in September, so I began to look for an apartment for the long haul. Many agencies told me that I could not rent an apartment without a cedula extranjero, so I had kind of given up hope and decided that I would stay where I was for the remainder of the time in Colombia.
My girlfriend finally got a call from an apartment complex and I had already viewed many apartments and was only set up for failure when they found out that I was a gringo and she was from Venezuela. Well we found an apartment, a brand new apartment in Buenos Aires with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, living room and sitting room for an incredible price. After looking over the paperwork once we viewed the apartment, the deal was a no brainer. So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. (Apartment is unfurnished, but with the price of furniture and other items, each month I will buy a set of furniture piece by piece). My apartment came with utilities, cable and WiFi included for the year, that was one of my demands.
Girls are calling everyday trying to get me to have a date with them and no one has asked for more than $50 mil. I can tell you from the reports and things that I have seen with my own eyes, this Pandemic is not going to let up. I have gone from paying $150 mil per date down to nearly $40 mil per date.
Clearly no one on the board is addressing the fact that there are no new clients coming in or going out, the situation is this, you must find a way to earn a date with the clients who are here or you starve and clearly many of them are starving. As the devil's advocate, let me say this, you also must be extremely careful when dating any of these girls during these times as desperate times cause for desperate measures. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out!
SlapShot10
07-26-20, 21:04
So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out!
Regal idea seeing the girls that don't rob you, PN. On a serious note, can you elaborate on your dates/plan, as it pertains to visa/permit, etc. ? Are you planning to apply for an extension? Do you have a visa? Thanks!
Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Got her Ubers each way, maybe 25 k total. She stayed the night. We discussed her moving in, as she's living in a dorm setup, with a 5-bedroom place that is only occupied by her and her brother. Her brother is always with his girlfriend, and she doesn't have money for rent. She's sweet, and fun, and a bit more mature than wifey. Also, she's hotter. I love her body. She was showing her T&A to my buddies on video chat, all night. We'll see. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, but it could work for both of us. She's also open to threesomes. Oh, on that note, I also received a WhatsApp message from the Bailarina. BEBE. She was asking if she could "rent" my extra room. I asked her why she thought I would want that, and why I get out of it. I explained there's no way I would expect her to pay half the rent, so why would I want to have to tip toe through her room to go workout, to go enjoy some fresh air, to use the jacuzzi, etc. She's one of those addicted to social media types, and I haven't had her one-on-one, so I don't even know about the chemistry. I think Pinky would genuinely be very thankful and gracious for my hospitality.
The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.
One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".
To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.
The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women..What website did you use to meet the 10/10 Mexicans?
SpiderRider
07-27-20, 00:01
I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.
There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.
If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:
Motel LOS Dos. Http://motellosdos.com.co.
Motel SolYLuna. https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/.
Motel Motivos. https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/.
Motel El Bosque. https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/.
Motel Aries. https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/.Thank you. I am very overdue for a 3-on-1 or 4-on1 in a jacuzzi room. Listo!
This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.
I would get in when I could and not worry about the price.
I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.
There is another effect of this is that I personally just ignore it. You should list the actual price so people can help you better. If you own an Airbnb, and it is empty next week, what would you do vs it is empty 2 months from now.
On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!
A member for more than 6 months,
A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.
And not have any infraction.I think it is when you become a senior member.
Gringo Trooper
07-27-20, 02:13
Thanks for the great reports PN, SlapShot, etc. We are living vicariously through you.
For those in MDE right now, how would you compare the scene in this recent Bogota SW'er video to what's happening in MDE?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVVeoMjEkCA
I see a lot less auto traffic in the video for example, and am trying to figure out if that is the case in MDE also.
Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.
With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.
I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.
This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.
Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?In my opinion, November might be overly optimistic. I hope to be wrong.
If you're on a budget, I'd do 2 things. First try to find ways to cut current spending and put more aside for your trip. Then I would push the trip back to a point where your budget will be less strained. You can also play around with your travel dates. Sometimes it's cheaper to stay a day longer, or to fly the next day.
There are plenty of ways to cut your costs while in Medellin. Some of them depend on your comfort zone and mongering style. Some, almost anyone can use.
1. Don't stay in Poblado. You can find suitable places for much less. Laureles is popular. You can also find places in Envigado and Sabaneta that will save you money. If you're comfortable in a very urban setting, you can save a lot by staying in El Centro. It's not for everyone, but there are some nice places for 300 k per week.
2. Use public transportation. If you're hitting the casas in El Centro, you can save 20 k per day or more by using the Metro or the buses. Sometimes, especially at night, a taxi or Uber is necessary, but for daytime excursions I almost always use buses or Metro.
3. Menu del DIA. You can go to a nice restaurant and spend 20-50 k on a meal, or you can go to a basic Colombian restaurant and order the menu of the day. Cost is from 8-15 k, depending on where you're at. Meal usually includes your choice of meat, soup or beans, a small salad with avocado, rice, potatoes and or yuca, a fried plantain and drink. You can find breakfast for 5-12 k at similar restaurants. If you're not comfortable walking around the neighborhoods looking for restaurants, try a mall. The food courts have lots of options. Mitos is very good. Macondos is pretty good and a bit cheaper.
4. Visit some casas. About 50 k gets you 30 minutes. If you do a casa during the day, it'll free up some money for having a girl come over at night.
5. If you're renting a full apartment with kitchen, buy some basic groceries to eat at least once a day in the apartment. Fruits, vegetables, milk, rice, eggs and chicken are all inexpensive.
I think you nailed it right there and that will be my mindset going forward. Thanks.
Lumi.
I would get in when I could and not worry about the price.
Thanks Nounce, I'm working on it haha.
Lumi.
I think it is when you become a senior member.
Lucky Nuts
07-27-20, 05:24
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AdventureSeekr
07-27-20, 14:24
Regal idea seeing the girls that don't rob you, PN. On a serious note, can you elaborate on your dates/plan, as it pertains to visa/permit, etc. ? Are you planning to apply for an extension? Do you have a visa? Thanks!
Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Got her Ubers each way, maybe 25 k total. She stayed the night. We discussed her moving in, as she's living in a dorm setup, with a 5-bedroom place that is only occupied by her and her brother. Her brother is always with his girlfriend, and she doesn't have money for rent. She's sweet, and fun, and a bit more mature than wifey. Also, she's hotter. I love her body. She was showing her T&A to my buddies on video chat, all night. We'll see. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, but it could work for both of us. She's also open to threesomes. Oh, on that note, I also received a WhatsApp message from the Bailarina. BEBE. She was asking if she could "rent" my extra room. I asked her why she thought I would want that, and why I get out of it. I explained there's no way I would expect her to pay half the rent, so why would I want to have to tip toe through her room to go workout, to go enjoy some fresh air, to use the jacuzzi, etc. She's one of those addicted to social media types, and I haven't had her one-on-one, so I don't even know about the chemistry. I think Pinky would genuinely be very thankful and gracious for my hospitality.1000% would have Pinky move in over Bailarina. Bailarina is on IG and whatsapp 23 hours a day and has crazy eyes. You can just tell she would be a problem. Plus I think Pinky is way hotter.
Elvis 2008
07-27-20, 17:14
What website did you use to meet the 10/10 Mexicans?Seeking.com or seeking arrangement, but it is going to take time to find them.
It's not based on nationality, some of my friends confirmed it by personal experience. If a country has any sense they will realize how unreasonable and ineffective it is to ban travelers base on their nationalities.But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.
In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.
SpiderRider
07-27-20, 23:33
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.That's a hell of a price point! I rarely can make anything happen at that rate. But, it does happen. Carry on.
GeneHickman
07-28-20, 00:48
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.Nice to see you having recovered from your near death experience and having a blast in retirement.
Kudos to you for researching finding and then getting what you want. Cost of living is lower in Belen than other parts more frequented by mongers. One of the interesting things I observed on my 2nd trip to Medellin this year before the lockdown is the variation in price points across the city. A restaurant meal of similar quality and quantity can be easily 3 x in price. 5-10 k to 30 k or more. Most gringos hit up Poblado Laureles or Centro and say they saw Medellin. Yeah some areas are dangerous but many more are just ordinary middle class suburban neighborhoods.
Do you speak Spanish? For me that has been my biggest barrier and something I continue to work on. Hard to develop good relations getting just the hit and run sessions without it. But I must say even there the paisa ladies can be accommodative if you put in some effort. They appreciate the other dimensions of sexuality beyond just the language. The dancing/courting, the touching etc.
Did you just meet these women there or via social media or how exactly did you come across them / proposition them. I have sessioned with a couple of Chicas from Belen and they were both good sessions. We all know the Bello beauties but I do not have the balls to venture up there, and the ones that have taxied have come with Pimp, BF or other company which for me is a buzz kill and also tends to shorten the time etc and gets/feels a lot more transactional.
Anyway welcome to the board and thanks for sharing your experiences. I am sure a couple of the older mongers wondering if their time is up will feel rejuvenated.
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.This is a refreshing post to read as some of our other posters, lets just say I will call them the "young bucks" have a hard time imagining the older farts like guy's over 65 banging Chica's that are 50 years younger then they are. Imagine banging someone five decades or 1/2 a century younger than you. I can see it being hard to fathom for some, while the one's doing it giggling about it.
And living in Bellen, it's a very large barrio, about as middle class as you can get, and they have a great sports complex there, "Unidad Deportes" with an Olympic pool, tennis courts, workout areas, soccer fields, etc which I have enjoyed frequently.
Please keep posting, your experiences will be valuable to others.
When I first moved to Medellin, I lived in Hotel Botero for 10 months. My oldest chica worked across the street in Yakusa. We hit it off on one-hour trips to my hotel room.
Other chicas I found at downtown casas. I sampled girls daily but only ran into lasting chemistry a few times. I know a smattering of Spanish, so I translated a little teaser with my phone number and handed out slips of paper liberally. One or two out of 10 working girls would contact me on WhatsApp later.
Before the quarantine, I used to ride the bus to El Centro weekly for a walk around. Now I put more effort into Facebook and online prepagos sites. I've found a few girls and a nearby casa that way.
Word of mouth works too. A new girl told a friend and now they both are visiting me.
I tell the girls I will pay 100 mil but I need two hours because I'm old. They don't have any problem staying longer once they've come a time or two.
First, thanks for taking the time to respond to a newbie.
I agree with you and I am not booking anything yet, it's still a wait and see kinda situation.
In my opinion, November might be overly optimistic. I hope to be wrong.When I say I'm on a budget, I mean it relative to some posters I have read about. My budget for my 4 week trip is right around 14,000,000 COP for everything except flights and accommodations. This includes chicas, food, drink, tours, sights and maybe a little dancing with some non pro's to see if I have any game left.
If you're on a budget, I'd do 2 things. First try to find ways to cut current spending and put more aside for your trip. Then I would push the trip back to a point where your budget will be less strained. You can also play around with your travel dates. Sometimes it's cheaper to stay a day longer, or to fly the next day.From my RTFF and for my tastes, Poblado is not for me, might visit the area but it doesn't seem like the spot I want to stay. I have found a great Airbnb in Laureles on Circular 4 between Car 71 and 70,14th floor, 24 HR portero with call up service for visitors, 1 king bed, 1 bath but no Jacuzzi which is the only thing that would be nice but that is based of of Slapshots reports (loved all the Jacuzzi pics). Also thinking of getting a place in El Centro but more on that later.
There are plenty of ways to cut your costs while in Medellin. Some of them depend on your comfort zone and mongering style. Some, almost anyone can use.
1. Don't stay in Poblado. You can find suitable places for much less. Laureles is popular. You can also find places in Envigado and Sabaneta that will save you money. If you're comfortable in a very urban setting, you can save a lot by staying in El Centro. It's not for everyone, but there are some nice places for 300 k per week.I am planning on using the metro for daytime travel and taxi, uber, didi, cabify, etc for night time travels.
2. Use public transportation. If you're hitting the casas in El Centro, you can save 20 k per day or more by using the Metro or the buses. Sometimes, especially at night, a taxi or Uber is necessary, but for daytime excursions I almost always use buses or Metro.I have read about the menu del DIA and plan to go that route unless I'm craving something specific. I am also a great cook (tooting own horn) and plan to prepare some meals at my place but a monger on the go has to refuel when and where he can!
3. Menu del DIA. You can go to a nice restaurant and spend 20-50 k on a meal, or you can go to a basic Colombian restaurant and order the menu of the day. Cost is from 8-15 k, depending on where you're at. Meal usually includes your choice of meat, soup or beans, a small salad with avocado, rice, potatoes and or yuca, a fried plantain and drink. You can find breakfast for 5-12 k at similar restaurants. If you're not comfortable walking around the neighborhoods looking for restaurants, try a mall. The food courts have lots of options. Mitos is very good. Macondos is pretty good and a bit cheaper.The casa or strip club scene, from what I have read is definitely in my wheelhouse and I have in my budget a casa trip per day, along with a Centro girl and probably a FB girl in the evening, depending on my desires of course.
4. Visit some casas. About 50 k gets you 30 minutes. If you do a casa during the day, it'll free up some money for having a girl come over at night.Same as point 3 above.
5. If you're renting a full apartment with kitchen, buy some basic groceries to eat at least once a day in the apartment. Fruits, vegetables, milk, rice, eggs and chicken are all inexpensive.
And is how I wish the rest of my like to be!
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.
But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.
In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.I know this is a moot point now, but I want to put forward some of my logical reasoning. It seems like we all agree that banning nationality is not practical; now, the next concern is to restrict residency. Here is a hypothetical to consider, I am a German citizen who lived in China or America during the entire time of COVID, and I took a humanitarian flight back to Germany using my German passport. I immediately try to board a flight to Costa Rica on the same day I arrived in Germany. Is the immigration officer at the German airport or in Costa Rica going to ask a German citizen to show proof of residency in Germany? Don't you think it is ironic? To complicate the matter further, many people have duo citizenship; they hold a passport in one of the E. You. Countries and the USA. Is Costa Rica's custom going to start an FBI like investigation on every tourist to trace down their whereabouts in the last three months?
Let's get back to Medellin; after all, the people here could care less about Costa Rica, we all want to get back to heaven, a. K. a Medellin. I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:
Colombia has been implementing one of the strictest border restrictions in the world, certainly the most rigorous in South America. President Duque has covered his ass already. No one can blame him for not trying to put Colombian life first. He has every reason to come out and say, "Hey guys, I have tried the hardest in the world to protect our country, but we can't afford to let our economy deteriorate any further. We need to resume foreign investment and tourism."
On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity or countries like Costa Rica that have open their borders manage to keep their COVID case under control. I think the question is how will Colombia reopen in September, which country will be in the first wave and how can we get into those countries for the USA.
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.Bravo Tomcat! I will soon be retiring in Philippines (next year) and hope to continue mongering in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Yes, it is amazing to have passionate sex with sexy, beautiful late teens and twenty-somethings! Aside from the pussy how do you like living in Medellin? I have only been there once (last year) but had a great time!
Black Page
07-28-20, 16:21
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.Incidentally: only 4 posts on ISG, zero BS and so much to teach!
This is a refreshing post to read as some of our other posters, lets just say I will call them the "young bucks" have a hard time imagining the older farts like guy's over 65 banging Chica's that are 50 years younger then they are. Imagine banging someone five decades or 1/2 a century younger than you. I can see it being hard to fathom for some, while the one's doing it giggling about it.It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.
The Tall Man
07-28-20, 16:37
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.I too love your energy and zest for life. As your about a decade older than me your look on life gives me hope for what is in store for me.
And yes I happened to be in Belen yesterday, drove there to help a friend in need. Decent area for sure and don't get me started on the young pussy that is available all around. When I was dropping off my friend, within one fricken block in belen, I counted no less than 3 teenage and early 20's paisas who left my head spinning, damn cuties all around.
Just a quick example was last night after some shopping in Jumbo San Juan I headed over to the calf area in San Diego, its about 8:15 PM and as soon as I enter the area my gawd found a newly fresh 18 yo whom I had picked up months ago. She rocked my world, so enthusiastic, so giving, so much energy, all for 60 mil. Heck back when I lived in LA & OC California I would gladly pay $200 plus USD for this teen and now living in Medellin for over 3 years, visiting Medellin for the past 10 before that, these are almost common experiences.
Keep going!
The Tall Man.
That is a normal price point. Granted the Parque Lleras crew, facebook pros, and seeking arrangement mercenaries won't accept it but it is a very rare civilian who we see regularly who would turn down this fair deal when it includes uber / didi / taxi.
That's a hell of a price point! I rarely can make anything happen at that rate. But, it does happen. Carry on.
Impressive statistics.
Incidentally: only 4 posts on ISG, zero BS and so much to teach!
I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.
I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.
I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.
I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.Love your post, especially because it made me feel there is hope for good sex even at 70
It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.
Seeking.com or seeking arrangement, but it is going to take time to find them.I have used this site to bang some spectacular women and a few long term relationships with young girls here in Canada.
I currently have 3 sugar babies here 18 to 19 yrs old.
I know about the time and money it takes to weed through the girls to get a gem.
When I first moved to Medellin, I lived in Hotel Botero for 10 months. My oldest chica worked across the street in Yakusa. We hit it off on one-hour trips to my hotel room.
Other chicas I found at downtown casas. I sampled girls daily but only ran into lasting chemistry a few times. I know a smattering of Spanish, so I translated a little teaser with my phone number and handed out slips of paper liberally. One or two out of 10 working girls would contact me on WhatsApp later.
Before the quarantine, I used to ride the bus to El Centro weekly for a walk around. Now I put more effort into Facebook and online prepagos sites. I've found a few girls and a nearby casa that way.
Word of mouth works too. A new girl told a friend and now they both are visiting me.
I tell the girls I will pay 100 mil but I need two hours because I'm old. They don't have any problem staying longer once they've come a time or two.I have a friend who up until the Pandemic would visit Medellin frequently and basically employed the same technique you used in the casa's with slips of paper. However he had business cards printed up with his name and contact information on them and some dollar signs as well printed on the cards. He would walk around El Centro and when he saw a girl he liked that was alone, he would chat her up and hand her his card, and tell them to call him if they weren't available on the spot. Granted you have to have a fair amount of Spanish speaking skills to pull this off, but it worked for him.
I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.If they can "fathom" themselves having a few bucks in their pocket at age 70 plus a plane ticket to Colombia, then they should be able to fathom banging someone 50 years younger. That's if they think ahead. If so then "fathoming" should be no problem at all. LOL.
One of the reasons I moved to Medellin was the pleasant year-round climate. In Nebraska, it's either freezing in winter or muggy hot in summer.
The cost of living is about one-third here.
Prostitution is legal. Women never seem to make an issue of my age. I am fairly fit for my age, except 50+ years of smoking have stolen my wind.
I don't experience much culture shock because I am basically a loner and an introvert. I read a lot, just like I did in Nebraska. There, I used to play computer games a lot. Now I play house with young women. We manage to talk as much as we want with translators.
My only regret is not figuring this out 10 or 20 years ago.
If they can "fathom" themselves having a few bucks in their pocket at age 70 plus a plane ticket to Colombia, then they should be able to fathom banging someone 50 years younger. That's if they think ahead. If so then "fathoming" should be no problem at all. LOL.Yep, you got it, lot's of younger guys, and there have been multiple posts by them, have a hard time envision mongering in their seventies, yet this board thru various posters illustrates differently.
John Gault
07-28-20, 22:13
It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.I am older than 70 and have never been turned down for a pay deal. I have been told many times that the girls like a older guy. Of course it may be BS on their part but nice words from a young girl are always good to hear.
I am older than 70 and have never been turned down for a pay deal. I have been told many times that the girls like a older guy. Of course it may be BS on their part but nice words from a young girl are always good to hear.Older guys are overall easier to handle, pay well and don't want to jackhammer their pussies for hours. They also tend to respect the arrangement without falling in love.
If you go to casas then you may have been screened out and not know it. At most places they can get a peek at you before "presenting. " This is made the easier if they start from behind a curtain. They can also screen out their Facebook dates. They typically want to see a photo in advance if yours isn't included in your profile. The stomach remark was just the facts of life. Humans don't look better as they age. There's nothing attractive about the process of dying, though many can overlook this for practical considerations.
One of the reasons I moved to Medellin was the pleasant year-round climate. In Nebraska, it's either freezing in winter or muggy hot in summer.
The cost of living is about one-third here.
Prostitution is legal. Women never seem to make an issue of my age. I am fairly fit for my age, except 50+ years of smoking have stolen my wind.
I don't experience much culture shock because I am basically a loner and an introvert. I read a lot, just like I did in Nebraska. There, I used to play computer games a lot. Now I play house with young women. We manage to talk as much as we want with translators.
My only regret is not figuring this out 10 or 20 years ago.How do you support yourself? I'm in my 30's and would love to move to a warmer and cheaper place.
PolloNegro
07-29-20, 00:14
I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out!
Can't envision themselves buying a hooker after age 70? Somehow I missed those posts. It would be perfectly normal for guys who pay for sex to continue to do so, if only occasionally for as long as they have wood and can get around. I think the problem here is that you thought you had a point when you really didn't. Is nothing hard to fathom about old guys having sex with young hookers, especially in Colombia where it's perfectly normal. It's no big deal and certainly nothing to "giggle" about. On to the next topic. LOL.
Yep, you got it, lot's of younger guys, and there have been multiple posts by them, have a hard time envision mongering in their seventies, yet this board thru various posters illustrates differently.
Just got back from El Centro. Pretty crazy again. Don't think I've seen this many chicas out there. I guess the quarantine on the weekends brings them all out during there week now. Something for everybody.
Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.
https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ
This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.
Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.
The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life.
Also, the verification of compliance with biosafety protocols by companies will continue, in relation to teleworking in as many positions as possible and with all biosafety protocols.
The government also expects that the opening activity by municipalities with a low incidence of Covid-19 will continue, according to the Interior Ministry report, in addition to the fact that local leaders continue to request the application of the pilot plans in different economic sectors.
For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached. Uses PayPal listed as Juan Carlos Cordoba Cabrera.
Agreed on a price along with quantity and length of videos. Nothing sent, except 2 extremely short clips. Keeps complaining, wanting more money and coming up with excuses. Looks good in the pictures, but definitely not worth the bullshit.
I'm considering this a win. I'd already decided to stop buying videos the first time I got cheated. Now I will inform anyone selling videos who they can blame if nobody wants to buy their videos.
Check those dates for flights to Fort Lauderdale.
Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out!
That is a normal price point. Granted the Parque Lleras crew, facebook pros, and seeking arrangement mercenaries won't accept it but it is a very rare civilian who we see regularly who would turn down this fair deal when it includes uber / didi / taxi.It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.
Social distancing measures have been extended to August 30,2020.
SpiderRider
07-29-20, 02:58
Let's get back to Medellin; after all, the people here could care less about Costa Rica, we all want to get back to heaven, a. K. a Medellin. I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:
Colombia has been implementing one of the strictest border restrictions in the world, certainly the most rigorous in South America. President Duque has covered his ass already. No one can blame him for not trying to put Colombian life first. He has every reason to come out and say, "Hey guys, I have tried the hardest in the world to protect our country, but we can't afford to let our economy deteriorate any further. We need to resume foreign investment and tourism."
On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity or countries like Costa Rica that have open their borders manage to keep their COVID case under control. I think the question is how will Colombia reopen in September, which country will be in the first wave and how can we get into those countries for the USA.Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.
Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.
Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349
Those are fair points.
It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.
LoveItHere69
07-29-20, 03:14
Sunday July 26,2020.
(Apartment is unfurnished, but with the price of furniture and other items, each month I will buy a set of furniture piece by piece).
Clearly no one on the board is addressing the fact that there are no new clients coming in or going out, the situation is this, you must find a way to earn a date with the clients who are here or you starve and clearly many of them are starving. Four months ago you were bragging about making $10,000+ a month with your new business. But now you have to fill up the apartment piece by piece? (Things that make you you go Hmmm.).
Starving huh? Most girls asking 30-40 for half an hour. Gave a girl my number but no text. Three days later I saw her and was ready to go right then. She asked for 50. I countered 40. She said no so I shrugged and walked away. Paying that is no problem but it told me already how much fun it was not going to be. She was kinda thin. Maybe she was starving.
Two of my girls just had their nails done. Here are the pictures. Maybe they are going to eat their nails. I have seen several of the girls I have had go with several guys.
Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Your proof is that your direct flights to Tampa has been canceled 4 times and you can not get home? You need to do some serious research. Go to the travel section and read mine or others posts about STEP. Or go to Spirit.com monthly view for flights from MDE to FLL (their home base). Then fly from Fort Lauderdale to Tampa.
MDE will be locked down Fri, Sat, Sun this week and next week. Bogota and Baranquilla have it worse.
Just got back from El Centro. Pretty crazy again. Don't think I've seen this many chicas out there. I guess the quarantine on the weekends brings them all out during the week now. You forgot to mention the front and side of the church and the front of the museum are fenced off so everyone is forced into an area half the size now.
It is true. It was announced by the President himself during his daily briefing this evening.
Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.
https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ
This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.
Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.
The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life..
ColombiaLover
07-29-20, 04:34
Yes, I agree. She friended me and then quickly sent some clothed fotos and asked for $10-$20. She's been bugging me periodically since, even calling me. Time to block her. I like flacas, but she's really too skinny even for me. I agree. Stay clear of her.
For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached. Uses PayPal listed as Juan Carlos Cordoba Cabrera.
Agreed on a price along with quantity and length of videos. Nothing sent, except 2 extremely short clips. Keeps complaining, wanting more money and coming up with excuses. Looks good in the pictures, but definitely not worth the bullshit.
I'm considering this a win. I'd already decided to stop buying videos the first time I got cheated. Now I will inform anyone selling videos who they can blame if nobody wants to buy their videos.
Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.
https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ
This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.
Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.
The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life.
Also, the verification of compliance with biosafety protocols by companies will continue, in relation to teleworking in as many positions as possible and with all biosafety protocols..Thanks for this information. I hope they flatten this damn curve. Costa Rica still opened while the number of cases is on the raise, they announced today that you. S citizens can go in through the you. K after a 14-days of self-quarantine, it is official now, no further debate needed (http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150). We can still legally go to the you. K (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html) which opens the door for the EU, as long as Medellin opens in September, regardless how restrictive, we have a chance to go in.
But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.
In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150. Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.
Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.I'm sorry to find out that guys like P. And. And Slapshot can use the same resources you have to make a heaven out of it while you seem pretty depressed. As much as I hate to see you in pain, I also selflessly hope your inability extends to your predictability.
Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.Why go through an interview to receive a "great offer" and turn it down, and then turn around to worry about having regrets, and then share this information with us here. The amount of logic inconsistency of your situation hurts me as I type out this sentence. However, I am extremely pleased to receive a sentence full of paradox from a person who predicts Medellin will remain shut down until next year; it confirms your relationship with logic reasoning. Amen.
Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349Thanks for the recommendation. I appreciate it. I'm hopelessly in love with Medellin, and I will try everything in my power to go back there. For better or for worse, I'm not known as a person who gives up on love quickly.
Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out!Your sentences evoke some profound wonderment I always have about the human mind. How does our mind search for logical satisfaction? I'm fascinated to learn how a person could be satisfied with the logical underpinning expressed in this sentence: "Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year."
While soaking in this wonderful fascination, these seemingly unconnected statements, "I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March" urge me to make sense of reality. You magically quantified "Never" (I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public) to "More than one month" (at least not September) and then further solidified to "six months" (Maybe in January 2021). Since we are throwing out numbers without grounds, why not throw a better figure, such as ten days, to offer some encouragement for the people in hell. I fuck mainly Gusto and FB girls for 500-700 k a night in my Poblado penthouse, having me in Medellin will not destroy your way of life.
As for "Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March". I need to try hard to search for the area of inadequacy within me that prevents me from seeing any logic embedded in this sentence.
I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.I'm in my 30's, I can't imagine what it would be like when I'm in my 70's and still banging 18-year-olds, but it is pretty awesome to know that 40 years later I can still have foursomes with three 18-year-olds. I know an older monger in Medellin who fucks two different 18-year-olds a night, good for him, but I don't ever want to picture him naked. What's interesting is that will I still keep in touch with the 18-year-olds that I'm fucking now, 40 years later they will be in their late 60's.
PolloNegro
07-29-20, 13:51
Check those dates for flights to Fort Lauderdale.Spirit airlines ought to be very ashamed. They attempted to allow me to book the same seat from MDE to FLL that I have booked on the same day. That's weird, to get to TPA you must pass through FLL, all dates are blacked out to TPA, but FLL is allowing you to book flights. Spirit does not return money, they try and give you credit for flights later on that are valid a year from the date you purchase this ticket. I would not try and book a flight if you do not want your finances tied up for a least 14 days before being returned. Pollo Negro is out!
Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors. https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349You've touched upon something a lot of the board members who currently aren't in Medellin don't realize, don't want to acknowledge, or perhaps want to ignore, and hope it ain't so.
Things aren't like they were before the Pandemic with places being closed, lock-down's, and restrictions. So for those aching to get back while all this "madness" is going on, it's not the paradise it was as you have painfully pointed out and know this is a bitter pill to swallow for some. I could of stayed in Medellin if I elected to back in March but elected to leave. I would not be doing well there being locked down, albeit I would have pussy, but everything else I like to do there would be a bust. I can see how it kind of sucks as you mention, and others not currently in Medellin dying to return need to be cognizant of this and be patient until there's some normalcy whatever that may be.
For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached.........She is an example of the sort of chica that you could have found in Energy 12 years ago.
The Tall Man
07-29-20, 15:22
Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.
Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.
Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349As both yourself and PN state I too have come to the conclusion that international flights into Colombia will not resume until at least November or December and more likely only after the New Year 2021.
Since April I get a call from my best buddy in the US a few times each week asking "what's new, when are the flights open" and always my same response "wait till the first quarter 2021 and should it happen any sooner consider it a gift". What is that old saying "a watched kettle never boils" hehehehehe so true.
In the meantime I receive daily messages fro a half dozen of really great fun chicas here in Medellin all wanting to know when we can meet up. I also get personal naked videos sent unsolicited from a few of these special girls in my stable. All good fun.
Much respect and love to all.
The Tall Man.
It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. ...........I can't recall ever having been refused in Latin America. I judge from facial expression and body language to avoid an embarrassing situation so when an Asian girl looks away or crumples her face I don't approach. I also have had some European girls avoid eye contact and I take that as a cue. I often wonder whether it is because of my age or my girth but will not ask. Fortunately they are in the minority.
Black Page
07-29-20, 15:49
Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.Reading and posting on the ISG MDE thread...
Happy to hear it is in the minority, I'm working on it, 30 lbs down, 30 more to go to get back into fighting shape, errrrr f*cking shape!!
I often wonder whether it is because of my age or my girth but will not ask. Fortunately they are in the minority.
It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.It's the Vegas syndrome.
People who go to Las Vegas for a long weekend gravitate towards the strip, they pay more for hotels and meals (and girls too). They gamble more and lose more too.
The people who live there successfully only go to the strip to show it to their friends who come to visit. They have learned where they can get food that's as good or better for half the price (and girls too).
Thanks for this information. I hope they flatten this damn curve. Costa Rica still opened while the number of cases is on the raise, they announced today that you. S citizens can go in through the you. K after a 14-days of self-quarantine, it is official now, no further debate needed (http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150). We can still legally go to the you. K (https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html) which opens the door for the EU, as long as Medellin opens in September, regardless how restrictive, we have a chance to go in.I suggested getting out of the US 6 weeks ago, for anyone with the means to work remotely, or who doesn't need to work. Get anywhere else that's got a better handle on things, do your quarantine, then get to an even better place, quarantine and wait. That's likely to be the quickest route back to Colombia.
Direct from the US to Colombia isn't happening September 1. Unless things change drastically it's not happening before January 1 and I'm not the least bit optimistic about that.
Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.Where are you walking? Except for sitting at The Beer Store in Parque Lleras, and once sitting at Thaico, I never had to deal with aggressive panhandlers. Maybe 1 or 2 along La 70 on evenings when there was a big game, but nothing like the touts in the DR.
Can't sit down and eat in a restaurant is still the case in much of the US. Canada too. My options between where I'm at right now and the US border are Burger King, Wendy's, Tim Hortons and Denny's, all of them take out only.
Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150. Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.Right. Just saw the article from CR. There are two categories basically. Canadian (residents of Canada) and British, Europeans, can go directly to CR as long as they meet the requirements (Covid test before, etc). People from other countries (including the USA) can choose to go to Canada, or the UK, or to Europe, quarantine there for 14 days, and then get on the flights coming from those places to Costa Rica. So this combines the residency / nationality requirement, with the flight origination location.
Black Page
07-29-20, 19:18
On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity Maybe not you, but some people seem to miss some basic math here.
The so-called "herd immunity" is claimed to be reached when, say, 70% of population has got immunity after infection of a new epidemic disease. Besides the fact that it has been not understood yet, for the moment, whether getting out of COVID gives immunity, what level of immunity, and for how long (forever? for years? for months?), numbers say that:
- total population: Brazil 210M, USA 330M.
- 70% infected at "herd immunity"? => Brazil 147M, USA 231M
- maybe 3% need hospitalization? => Brazil 4.4M, USA 6.9M
- 1% infected die? => Brazil 1.5M, USA 2.3M death toll. (Note: as of today, today deaths /1M pop is 417 in Brazil and 460 in USA)
I am not sure that herd immunity is really a goal to aim at. It means a mass death! However, when every family has someone seriously sick or dead, economy gets blocked even without a President who imposes a lockdown. It's hard reality that knocks at the door and becomes self-evident also to the eyes who was was skeptical.
I suggested getting out of the US 6 weeks ago, for anyone with the means to work remotely, or who doesn't need to work. Get anywhere else that's got a better handle on things, do your quarantine, then get to an even better place, quarantine and wait. That's likely to be the quickest route back to Colombia.
Direct from the US to Colombia isn't happening September 1. Unless things change drastically it's not happening before January 1 and I'm not the least bit optimistic about that.I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.
Where are you walking? Except for sitting at The Beer Store in Parque Lleras, and once sitting at Thaico, I never had to deal with aggressive panhandlers. Maybe 1 or 2 along La 70 on evenings when there was a big game, but nothing like the touts in the DR.
Can't sit down and eat in a restaurant is still the case in much of the US. Canada too. My options between where I'm at right now and the US border are Burger King, Wendy's, Tim Hortons and Denny's, all of them take out only.There actually are a lot more hustler's and pan handlers out on the streets including Poblado then before the Pandemic.
As far as dining in restaurants, here in Southern California and in a lot of other States, places have taken over parking spaces and have moved dining outdoors along with the bars. If Parque Lleras was in Southern California, every single restaurant with open air dining would be open here. This illustrates how serious and tough Medellin has been compared to the US.
Canadian (residents of Canada) and British, Europeans, can go directly to CR as long as they meet the requirements (Covid test before, etc)Do you mean a Canadian who is in US on Saturday can drive to Canada and be on a flight to fly to CR on Sunday, the next day?
Maybe not you, but some people seem to miss some basic math here.I think this math guy explains it the best.
https://twitter.com/tatereeves/status/1282783825219682304
It's the Vegas syndrome.
People who go to Las Vegas for a long weekend gravitate towards the strip, they pay more for hotels and meals (and girls too). They gamble more and lose more too.
The people who live there successfully only go to the strip to show it to their friends who come to visit. They have learned where they can get food that's as good or better for half the price (and girls too).Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.
Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.Since JBee was responding to my post, I'll venture in. I was stating that guys visiting for a short period of time aren't likely to get many hot-looking girls for 50 K like the original poster who lives there. If one lives in Medellin (or Las Vegas or wherever), they have all the time in the World to find and befriend local talent that a short-term visitor just won't have the time or patience to do. There are indeed newer, fresher girls that can be gotten for very low prices. But it generally takes time to find them. And they generally aren't in Poblado. They're in a comuna/neighborhood where they don't see lots of Gringos.
Of course, eventually, some of these girls will be "discovered" by the Gringo hoard, they'll starting hanging out in Poblado and their fees will go up. Then the guy that lives there will just move on to the next batch of less-spoiled fresh talent.
FWIW, I have nothing against Poblado. It's a nice neighborhood to stay in. It's just that everything is way more expensive than in other areas of the city.
Elvis 2008
07-29-20, 23:52
It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.
The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.
Do you mean a Canadian who is in US on Saturday can drive to Canada and be on a flight to fly to CR on Sunday, the next day?Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?
Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.Not like Vegas. It's more affluent and trendy. Hipster coffee shops. Think San Francisco.
Very stylish. And if course that's more expensive. Other areas are much more what you would expect from a middle class neighborhood in South America. It's a matter of taste and expense. I personally like the beach and left after one day. Cities are not my thing but the women are beautiful in Medellin. Stunning and Lleras Park has a lot of action although certainly pricey. If you just want girls they are all over and certainly cheaper elsewhere. I found a really nice 21 year old early in the evening and she treated me very well...
Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.My comparison would be between all of Medellin and Las Vegas.
The bulk of the tourists stay along the Vegas strip, or in Poblado. The more experienced tourists move off the strip, some to Fremont Street, in Medellin they go to Laureles. The budget tourists go to even cheaper areas of Vegas, El Centro in Medellin. Each one is able to find and do the same things at different price points.
But the people who move to Vegas, or Medellin, soon find their own level. They don't need to be right in the middle of the action. They know where to go, or who to call, for whatever they want, without the tourist markup.
Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?Got a spare room? I'll be back tomorrow night.
Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?I am somewhat surprised with your response on this entire topic. You can actually say Canadian will be treated like everyone else who enter from US need to be quarantined for 14 days. On the surface, it does not make a lot of sense to deny entry of a citizen at the border, essential or not.
If you want a refund dispute the charge with your credit card company. You will receive credit right away. By act of Congress Spirit can't keep your money. Spirit will stall and offer vouchers but they have to give it up.
Spirit airlines ought to be very ashamed. They attempted to allow me to book the same seat from MDE to FLL that I have booked on the same day. That's weird, to get to TPA you must pass through FLL, all dates are blacked out to TPA, but FLL is allowing you to book flights. Spirit does not return money, they try and give you credit for flights later on that are valid a year from the date you purchase this ticket. I would not try and book a flight if you do not want your finances tied up for a least 14 days before being returned. Pollo Negro is out!
Anybody else make it to El Centro today? Saw less talent than yesterday, but still were a lot of chicas out today. Saw some incredible talent around town. Today was a monger day so I picked up a nice, pretty, thick chica with a caramel complexion. BBBJ was fantastic. No rush and sucked for as long as I wanted. I think she was actually enjoying it. Smashed in several different positions. Very sweet and soft is how I would describe her. Let me go balls deep. Really great and satisfying time. Definitely plan to repeat in the future.
ColombiaLover
07-30-20, 01:58
It really is an economic question that the president needs to deal with. The country could re-open if it wanted. And just require a COVID 19 negative test upon entry.
The question I have is "who really wants to go to Colombia right now with COVID 19 out of control there"? I would go, but I would hole up in my apartment, enjoy the jacuzzi, read, order domocilio, and, of course, have my chicas visit. But for the average guy who likes to go and party, not much there for you right now. Further, I love going into the barrios, but I won't be going for a while now. Given the economic situation, things are more dangerous as people are more desperate. The average gringo needs to think about that as well.
We'll see. Everyone has an opinion, but none of us really know. I'm just holding on to my reservations. I can always change them.
Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.
The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.
Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Nice pics bro. Glad to see folks here enjoying the summer.
I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.Just the sates of California and Florida have about the same numbers. By that argument, Colombia is faring better as a country than these states!!
Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.
The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.Hopefully this won't start another argument.
The virus has behaved the same everywhere. The difference is how the people behave.
Every time any disease is making the rounds Asia puts on masks. No arguments, no protests, they mask up until it goes away.
Europe has a better educated population. Depending on the country, they've been more aggressive at identification, isolation and contact tracing.
Colombia had the right idea, but too many people just went about business as usual. When the numbers kept going up they didn't or couldn't get the people to comply.
I think it would be of interest to see a breakdown of cases by estrato. I expect the early burden was in estrato 5 and 6 areas. Now I suspect it's spreading faster in the lower estrato barrios.
I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.But as has been stated time and again here "lockdown" is a mere word without compliance. Non-compliance is the norm in much of Colombia, especially Bogota. Then we have the reports here of "business as usual" in El Centro Medellin.
It's often the same here in Florida. Bars are supposed to be closed but there's the restaurant / serves food loophole. Many have been opening while setting out snacks or ordering food from nearby restaurants. No, they do not have restaurant licenses but enforcement is scant at best.
Masks are a requirement indoors in my locale but it often doesn't happen. No employee wants to be the one to kick someone out of a store, especially with plenty of loose cannons roaming around. By all reports the major strip clubs here are packed with little mask wearing, none with the girls, and all is normal with the VIP room lapdances. Lockdowns, masks, social distancing, etc. Are just concepts without implementation. And of course enforcement is difficult as it strains LEO resources.
But it generally takes time to find them. That is the point but I think you don't need to live in Medellin to find them. I found some that don't want money, or just ponder about it. One put it this way: "si el dinero suge mucho mejor!. I am not saying I can get them for free but I have no doubt many others like Elvis can if he wants to.
Sometimes I wonder if I want to continue to invest in these relationships because it takes far more time than a simpler p4 p when you have to deal with more than one of them. It's like I have to eat all 3 daily meals multiple times a day.
If one wants to have sex quick or with more variety, he likely has to pay more because it is a trade off between money and time. For someone living here but getting paid in US, he can spend the time to make money instead of finding chicas. He will end up with more money in his bank account by paying more.
If I find a very hot chica cheap, I am going to make her an offer to to live with me. If I find two, I will make an offer so each one come every other day. I think I can afford a few, LOL.
It really is an economic question that the president needs to deal with. I think it is a political one as well. The government set the date without a plan or restrictions so now it is stuck.
TopoChico571
07-30-20, 05:41
I've got a few questions about the Medellin Quarantine for tourists.
1. How strict is it?
2. Do tourists have to install an app on their phones to track where they go / contact with?
3. Can tourists go outside every day or only certain days based on your passport number (or another identifier like Colombians with their cedula)?
4. Gyms are closed, right? What about the free, public outdoor gyms?
5. Do you have to stay inside your hotel from Friday to Sunday every weekend?
Anybody else make it to El Centro today? Saw less talent than yesterday, but still were a lot of chicas out today. Saw some incredible talent around town. Today was a monger dayAre there specific days in which you can do monger? I take it weekends no one goes outside.
GeneHickman
07-30-20, 06:50
She is an example of the sort of chica that you could have found in Energy 12 years ago.Well definitely not nowadays that is for aure. Been twice on two separate trips and wasn't impressed either time. Loutron has the chica quality but its too restrictive and although I do reccomend it once for the novelty, I would not go again. If you can do the legwork and build your roster of chicas, you are aorted everytime.
Well definitely not nowadays that is for aure. Been twice on two separate trips and wasn't impressed either time. Loutron has the chica quality but its too restrictive and although I do reccomend it once for the novelty, I would not go again. If you can do the legwork and build your roster of chicas, you are aorted everytime.Man you should have seen the quality at Loutrons 12 years ago, the hottest hookers on the planet. Correction, the hottest women on the planet. I always try to get in a visit there when I'm in Medellin, nevertheless, I always get a sort of queasy feeling when I'm there more so in the latest location than before.
I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.Amazingly though, Brazil is opening up in August if you can show you have health insurance valid in Brazil for the time of your stay, 90 days or less duration.
Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150. Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.
Looks like she's opening up in August.
Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.
As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.
Are there specific days in which you can do monger? I take it weekends no one goes outside.Not specific days in general. I monger according to my schedule since I have a GF and a couple of girls I hang with from time to time. I squeeze in the mongering when I have time.
Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.
Looks like she's opening up in August.
Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.
As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.I'll be returning to my beloved Brasil this winter. I'm just wondering. Can you just show them your insurance card or what? That seems like almost too easy of a requirement.
And of course what will be the deal returning to the US.
I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?
It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.
I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?
It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.I've never encountered any Colombian that seems uptight talking about stratas. Though it's never occurred to me to ask them about it. The few times it's come up in conversations, it was brought up by them.
MarquisdeSade1
07-31-20, 00:50
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I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?
It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.I've talked with Colombian friends about estrato s, but it was an issue within the subject we were discussing, rather than the main subject. Personally it's not a subject I would ever bring up. Here's my rationalization:
About 30 years ago I had a friend who was a lead carpenter. His wife also had a good job, so they were doing okay. However, they lived in a modest subdivision in Santee. A big contractor in San Diego wanted to hire him, and it would have been an excellent hire. My friend not only had the skills, he had the personality. People were happy to work with him, they were more productive and did better work.
The contractor took my buddy and his wife out to dinner, then headed back to his house for drinks and to talk business. He lived on the bluff overlooking Old Town San Diego with a great view of Mission Bay. While they were all sitting in the jacuzzi, drinking champagne and enjoying the view, the contractor said something like "I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?" My friend said "I don't know about the rest of them, but 2 of us are sitting in your jacuzzi drinking your champagne."
That one remark completely ended his chance of hiring my friend.
I doubt if very many of us can relate to the estrato 1 and 2 girls who we're spending time with. Things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Things like drywall and hot water. I feel there's too many opportunities to say something insensitive or offensive, which might take away from the session.
Stick with compliments and safe subjects.
SeanWilkds
07-31-20, 01:25
Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. I see a fair few people walking around in my neighbourhood, and also a fair amount of traffic and police as well.
I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?
It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.To answer your question, class-ism, if that is a word, exists in Colombia and is similar to racism. May sound odd, but lots of upper class Colombians (Estrato 6) look down on the the poorer living in the barrios that are Estrata 1 and 2. When you sign up with Claro for cable, they have a tiered payment schedule with the same for EPM for utilities. A few years back I looked at property to buy located in Poblado and the real estate agent brought an attorney and when I asked him about something in Bellen, he made a reference that they were a bunch of low life's living there. And a few years back when I was with one of my Chicas in Provenza, I was introduced to a Colombian couple. And when they asked where my Chica lived and she told them in a barrio called Paris they gave her the cold shoulder. What I experienced was an eye opener for me but not surprising. So unless your good friends with a Colombian, I wouldn't be asking much about it, but typically where they live in the City will be a good indicator. Basically the wealthy are helping to subsidize the poor in Colombia based on their Estrata system.
The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.
I'll be returning to my beloved Brasil this winter. I'm just wondering. Can you just show them your insurance card or what? That seems like almost too easy of a requirement.
And of course what will be the deal returning to the US.
ColombiaLover
07-31-20, 03:43
I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.
The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.
I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.In the past I have purchased travel insurance with Geo-Blue which cost about $ 250 a year for stays up to 60 days outside of the USA. The policy included evacuation benefit's, but better yet, if you go to one of the Hospitals they are associated with, and there are like three of them in Medellin, you don't need to pay and then be reimbursed, there only is a $ 50 deductible. As far as travel insurance for COVID, I have no idea whether travel insurance covers that.
I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.That's good to know. My regular health insurance does cover me outside the country, but, like you, I have to pay first then turn in a claim. However, I doubt medical evacuation is covered. So specific travel medical insurance would be necessary.
I doubt if very many of us can relate to the estrato 1 and 2 girls who we're spending time with. Things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Things like drywall and hot water. I feel there's too many opportunities to say something insensitive or offensive, which might take away from the session..There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Also Colombians don't like Air Conditioning so they wouldn't consider that a luxury either, Aa least this has been my experience with the Estrato 1/2 girls I have been with.
As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.
I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.
LoveItHere69
07-31-20, 05:59
Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. I see a fair few people walking around in my neighbourhood, and also a fair amount of traffic and police as well.I got stopped by police twice in Barranquilla. Both times in the Centro (bad area). No problems in the nicer areas when odd number IDs can shop this day and even number IDs shop that day. But the times I got caught was during the strict lock down times.
First time was during the third week when this all started so around the first week of April. It was a semi strict lock down period when you could only got out on certain days and for a reason. Very few places were open. I was in a short time hotel with this girl I was taking for the second time that week. On the way out of the room the guy at the hotel started to chat me in English. I was bored so I thought I would be friendly and chat a bit which I normally never do. I never make friends with the local guys. Always problems. Just a matter of time. After 10 minutes the cops arrive. Wanting to know where I was from, where staying, why am I was there. So the hotel guy says he will take care of it and asks how much money I have on me. I show him 40,000. I paid the girl and was going to grab a bite to eat somewhere so had little money. He says give it to him and he will give to the police so the restaurant employees next door do not see because the police were talking to them too. I gave to him and left. Saw the girl a block away and she looked curious as to what happened but I walked away quickly.
The hotel guy had one of his buddies walk to the park to get the police which was one block away and has a police sub-station. I do not think the police got any of the money. I was chatting with the hotel guy far down the hallway far from the entrance so could not say I was simply passing by to eat at the restaurant next door. I had eaten there 3 days earlier after I had the girl the first time so they knew me as "the foreigner guy". The police do not go door to door checking things out. It was the short time hotel cashier guy!
Second time was during strict lock down that they brought back in Baranquilla for Friday, Saturday, Sunday during last three weeks in June. The ATM did not pay me on Thursday but showed online that it had so I wrote a note and slid it in the mail slot at the bank. As I left 2 motorcycle police saw me as they were passing and stopped me. Told me to follow them behind a mini shopping stall (1.5 x 1.5 meter box). Said it was lock down and they will arrest me. Checked my pockets. Had my phone, 90,000, knife, mace. The knife and mace are no problem. It could be if they said I pulled the knife on them or tried to mace them. They asked for 200,000 then 100,000. I gave them 70,000. I just did not want to lose my phone. It was a holiday that Monday but also a lock down day. I pointed to the 5 people sitting at the corner across from us doing nothing. Like why not go after them? I just had to be wearing new shoes and a polo shirt versus sandals and a regular T-shirt. Plus, I forgot my bag.
I am a bit afraid so the furthest I went was to a restaurant 1 block away last weekend.
My advice. Do not go more than 1 kilometer /.5 mile away. Carry a bag with something in it like you had to have something. Not chips and soda. Emergency stuff like tooth paste, diarrhea medicine, tampons. Tampons would be best. They will probably laugh at you being your GF's * I mean Go-For.
I was 5 blocks north of Botero for the 4 day lock down. Street people of course are not bothered. Always seemed to me 7 locals out going to a hole in the wall convenience store or bakery or drug store even though most were closed. Police passing by every 10 minutes.
Now 5 blocks south and east of Botero (4 blocks east of San Antonio Station). Again homeless people and 7 locals in eye sight getting little items nearby. Police passing by every 7 minutes (police station 3 blocks away). If I was to walk around then there would be police every 4-5 minutes passing me.
If you were in Laureles I think you will be fine because less police I am sure. But have a purpose and a destination.
Change of topic:
Saw a new face at Botero. She just got there and stood 2 meters away. I just watched. She knew I was checking her out because I have a drooling issue. Not real hot but pretty face. Four guys approached her in 45 minutes or less. All shot down. Maybe she was waiting for me. So I took my turn. She texted condom and 35,000. OK let's go. We did the deed. I only need my 3 positions not even a BJ. Very vanilla. After I asked her why she shot down the 4 guys. She told me they wanted things she did not to do. Funny thing is I never told her what I wanted. Guess she was just going to say no to whatever I tried and she did not want to do.
This one is not starving either Pollonegro.
Mr Enternational
07-31-20, 06:01
There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.
Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.
My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.
Elvis 2008
07-31-20, 06:38
I think it is a political one as well. The government set the date without a plan or restrictions so now it is stuck.Nounce, the government has been changing dates all the time. Thing is that there is a political rivalry between the president and mayor of Bogota like the Republicans and Dems here. The Bogota mayor will hammer the president if he opens up the country and there is a sharp increase in case numbers and given that all the numbers are rising, the only reason for optimism is that he said September 1 was the planned reopen date.
Thing is that he has changed things before. He opened things up; cases got worse, and then closed them back down.
I think the travel ban was a huge mistake, and the president has stupidly painted himself into a corner.
Nothing would make me happier than to see the number of cases plummet and the September 1 reopen date be a reality. It is just there is nothing in the data, and I mean nothing, that is cause for optimism. The numbers just flat out suck right now.
Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. People are allowed to walk their dogs during the weekend quarantine. I know 2 chicas that have dogs and live close enough to come over with their dogs. I have one coming over on Saturday. She will even stop by the tienda and pick up something for me, if I need it.
Elvis 2008
07-31-20, 07:07
Hopefully this won't start another argument.
The virus has behaved the same everywhere. The difference is how the people behave.
So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?
JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.
Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.
I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?
The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.
If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.
Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.
Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.
My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.I agree to some degree. When I first came to Medellin, some girls would want to leave as soon as we finished fucking, despite my modern penthouse, jacuzzi, unlimited booze, and me being relatively young, tall, respectful, and in good shape. Those chicas were not very comfortable with me, a person from a different cultural background who can't speak Spanish. This is especially true with 18-year-olds; for them, the concept of building a strong reputation as a hooker doesn't exist. They just want to quickly fuck a foreigner to make a few quick bucks, and go party on a farm.
You have to work with those girls and learn their taste in music, drug, food, and alcohol. Repeat with them a few times, show them you can dance well, make them cum while fucking them, and, more importantly, make them feel at home. Soon they will become addicted to the unlimited booze, tussi, food, surround sound speakers in every room, the jacuzzi, the panoramic view of Medellin on your balcony, and the daily maid service. Next thing you know, they will start to bring their friends over (I believe the girls who bring over her friends are taking a cut of what I give her friends). I had many outstanding threesomes and foursomes with girls brought over by my favorites. Most of my favorites girls were clock watchers initially, but once I made them feel that they are entitled to the Provenza penthouse luxury, then the hard thing is to convince them to leave. When I was in Medellin, every night, I have girls who want to come over for free to sleep with me; I guess for them the free booze, jacuzzi, and tussi are worth it, they also know how generous I am, they probably deduced that I would tip them at least 300 k anyway. But I know better; the most expensive sex is free sex, I either turn them down or insisting on paying.
Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.
Looks like she's opening up in August.
Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.
As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.Thanks for the information brotha Balboa; I appreciate it. In my heart, Brazil is forever the number one place for mongering. It is so good to know that Brazil will re-open soon. I miss my time in Brazil.
However, I have invested too much in Medellin; I need to go back there. I have already put in 6 months of private Spanish lessons. I've spent easily 40,000 dollars on developing relationships with Chicas in Medellin from October last year until the end of February 2020. I have established solid relationships with 12 chicas all between 18-21; they will give me the most divine threesomes and foursomes, quarantine, or no quarantine.
I'm in the talks about renting / buying my favorite three level Penthouse apartment in Provenza; all my girls love the love-nest jacuzzi on the roof-top. I'm convinced the moment I make it cross that border, I will be in heaven, the quarantine situation in Medellin will only enhance my experiences, I might be able to pull a five or six-some with my favorite girls. I can imagine having six 18-year-olds living with me 24/7; I can fuck any of them in any way I like, at any time I want. I would be working until 3 am and go in my spare bedroom to fuck three girls together, completely bare, they will share cock like their lives depend on it. Then I will go to sleep with three different girls in the master bedroom. I would wake up in at 10 am get a double blowjob in the jacuzzi before calling into my first meeting, and this is only a typical weekday, it is the tip of the ice-burg, my weekend routine is too insane to put in writing.
If I have spent 40 k in relationship development Brazil, I'm sure I will have a better experience in a penthouse in Ipanema, but this is the price we have to pay with capital investment. It is not easy to change cou.
I've talked with Colombian friends about estrato s, but it was an issue within the subject we were discussing, rather than the main subject. Personally it's not a subject I would ever bring up. Here's my rationalization:
About 30 years ago I had a friend who was a lead carpenter. His wife also had a good job, so they were doing okay. However, they lived in a modest subdivision in Santee. A big contractor in San Diego wanted to hire him, and it would have been an excellent hire. My friend not only had the skills, he had the personality. People were happy to work with him, they were more productive and did better work.
The contractor took my buddy and his wife out to dinner, then headed back to his house for drinks and to talk business. He lived on the bluff overlooking Old Town San Diego with a great view of Mission Bay. While they were all sitting in the jacuzzi, drinking champagne and enjoying the view, the contractor said something like "I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?" My friend said "I don't know about the rest of them, but 2 of us are sitting in your jacuzzi drinking your champagne."
That one remark completely ended his chance of hiring my friend.I agree. I hired a few very talented PhDs and a bunch of people with Master's degrees in Medellin. I don't know what estrato they are in, but they all own apartments in Poblado, I assume it will cost them 200 k to 400 k in dollars for an excellent three-bedroom apartment near the Santa Fe mall. In where I live in California, you can't even buy a bathroom with 400 k. A typical person with their education and work experience in California would easily make 300-400 k a year; it hurts me to even think about how much I'm paying them.
I never mention money, social status, and my housing arrangement when I'm in Medellin. I just talk about salsa, art, science, and insisting on buying everyone aguardiente throughout the night. I can't bend reality, but I treat all my friends (chicas included) in Medellin with the utmost respect, and they all know it.
Just curious, what are some of the telltale signs of chicas from estrato 1 or 2. One of my gusto girls actually threw back the 500 k I give her because she thinks it is too little and walked out on me. Of course, I went to Paradise, on the same night, use the 500 k found an excellent girl to fuck all night, is this a sign of a girl from a relatively higher estrato?
Now that sounds like some great advice, thank you.
Lumi.
Stick with compliments and safe subjects.
This type of system is wide spread across the globe, even in North America you see it. Some wealthy treating the poor, well, poorly!
Lumi.
To answer your question, class-ism, if that is a word, exists in Colombia and is similar to racism. May sound odd, but lots of upper class Colombians (Estrato 6) look down on the the poorer living in the barrios that are Estrata 1 and 2. When you sign up with Claro for cable, they have a tiered payment schedule with the same for EPM for utilities.
This is great information. There is one chicka I have been in contact with that has told me she has never been to see the ocean. I am planning my first Colombia trip for 4-5 weeks and I was thinking that if I get bored maybe a 2-3 day stay in San Andres with said chicka might be nice. Airfare seems to be around 160 mil Cop each + hotel, might be a nice way to spend a weekend!
Lumi.
As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.
I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.
The Tall Man
07-31-20, 17:41
There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Also Colombians don't like Air Conditioning so they wouldn't consider that a luxury either, Aa least this has been my experience with the Estrato 1/2 girls I have been with.
As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.
I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.I too love to see the reaction of a chica experiencing something that they never would have dreamed of like the two paisas I took on a road trip with me to see the coast, stay in a hotel on the sand, wow just seeing their facing when they walked onto the beach for the first time in their life and dug their feet into the sand, priceless.
The Tall Man.
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