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I'm in the talks about renting / buying my favorite three level Penthouse apartment in Provenza; all my girls love the love-nest jacuzzi on the roof-top. I'm convinced the moment I make it cross that border, I will be in heaven, the quarantine situation in Medellin will only enhance my experiences, I might be able to pull a five or six-some with my favorite girls. I can imagine having six 18-year-olds living with me 24/7; I can fuck any of them in any way I like, at any time I want. I would be working until 3 am and go in my spare bedroom to fuck three girls together, completely bare, they will share cock like their lives depend on it. Then I will go to sleep with three different girls in the master bedroom. I would wake up in at 10 am get a double blowjob in the jacuzzi before calling into my first meeting, and this is only a typical weekday, it is the tip of the ice-burg, my weekend routine is too insane to put in writing..Have you recently woke up in the middle of the night and discovered you came while sleeping, as this sounds like a dream you had.
The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.I think the issue is more than compliance. It is easier to reduce the infection if everyone get tested. In Korea, they find and test everyone that come in contact with the person found with the virus. Not so in the countries that are doing badly. In many cities, you won't get a test unless you show symptom and you probably learn about it a few weeks later from the news and probably no one is making effort to find and inform you. Virus has opportunity to infect more people between the time gap.
I don't think Colombia and Peru are totally compliant. In US we can do grocery shopping once a week, but many in Latin America have to go out for food often for the simple reason they don't have refrigerator.
If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.I think someone can find one but Colombia may not be able to execute the plan. Almost all more advanced Asian nations like Korea have not completely shutdown the border and they are doing much better. The one thing I notice is that the citizens are more cooperative and they have peer pressure to follow the rules. They don't waste so much time arguing endlessly while the virus breeds. Now their lives are back to normal.
So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?
JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.
Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.
I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?
The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.
If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.Travel, and international travel are only pieces of it. The big part of stopping the spread of it is keeping people apart. Masks can help, but the number one thing is not having people within 6 feet of each other. We have almost no cases where I am and the new cases in the whole country are in the low hundreds. Everyone is tested and contact traced, when someone is found with it. And there is free testing available for anyone who thinks they might have a symptom. Testing is turning up less than 1% cases even where people think they may have been exposed or think they may have a symptom.
Anyway. The thing can be beat, there are several countries that have. Not to say there won't be flare ups again. But once the numbers get low the contact tracing and extensive testing can stop it from becoming major outbreaks. Basically stop the community transmission. And certainly countries that have it under control don't want to import cases. Hence strict quarantine rules for anyone entering the country.
Travel, and international travel are only pieces of it. The big part of stopping the spread of it is keeping people apart. Masks can help, but the number one thing is not having people within 6 feet of each other. We have almost no cases where I am and the new cases in the whole country are in the low hundreds. Everyone is tested and contact traced, when someone is found with it. And there is free testing available for anyone who thinks they might have a symptom. Testing is turning up less than 1% cases even where people think they may have been exposed or think they may have a symptom.
Anyway. The thing can be beat, there are several countries that have. Not to say there won't be flare ups again. But once the numbers get low the contact tracing and extensive testing can stop it from becoming major outbreaks. Basically stop the community transmission. And certainly countries that have it under control don't want to import cases. Hence strict quarantine rules for anyone entering the country.What Country are you in?
ColombiaLover
07-31-20, 23:32
SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.
1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.
2) Often have shoddy tatoos.
3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.
4) Can drink most of us under the table.
5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).
6) Can be very loud.
7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.
Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.
Just curious, what are some of the telltale signs of chicas from estrato 1 or 2.
SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.
1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.
2) Often have shoddy tatoos.
3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.
4) Can drink most of us under the table.
5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).
6) Can be very loud.
7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.
Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.Thanks, by this description, most the girls in gusto are not in this category. I don't know Spanish, so I can't tell whether my girls are using slangs or not, almost all the girls I see in Medellin has some tattoos. I can drink a lot, haven't found any girls who can out drink me yet. A girl did stole a new bottle of whiskey from me once.
I wonder if there is any correlation between Estrato and the level of services they provide. It seems like the best service is unlikely to come from the highest and the lowest estrato.
SlapShot10
08-01-20, 01:17
is this a sign of a girl from a relatively higher estrato?
SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.
1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.
2) Often have shoddy tatoos.
3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.
4) Can drink most of us under the table.
5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).
6) Can be very loud.
7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.
Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.
What Country are you in?From and in Canada.
So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?
JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.
Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.
I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?.Why do you do this every single time? You write an entire rebuttal on a subject I haven't mentioned. It's as if you're responding to a completely different post.
A thorough lockdown on International travel, combined with aggressive testing and contact tracing, could have prevented the pandemic, if it had been done in early January. That window has closed. International travel bans now are to reduce the strain on local resources while countries attempt to get their infection rate under control.
Getting the infection rate under control is a three step process. First is to minimize the possibility of infection. Social distancing, masks, cancelling large gatherings, shutdowns. All these things work to reduce the spread. We know they work, we've seen the results.
Next step is identification. Until you get a handle on the infection rate, identification is a waste of money. Of course if you jump on identification at the first sign, you have a possibility to avoid the shutdown step It's simple, you test every suspect. Anyone positive you test all their contacts and you keep tracing contacts until you identify every infected person.
Then you isolate them. If this is all carried out diligently, most things can return to normal after about 12 weeks. Which is what we've seen in several countries. However, if you don't stay the course, you either just say "fuck it" and let it run its course, or you have to start over with a 12 week shutdown.
Everyone wants to make it political. Viruses are apolitical. They behave exactly the same regardless of geography, politics or religion. Until we start treating it like a disease instead of a way to score points, nothing is going to change.
Thanks for the information brotha Balboa; I appreciate it. In my heart, Brazil is forever the number one place for mongering. It is so good to know that Brazil will re-open soon. I miss my time in Brazil.
If I have spent 40 k in relationship development Brazil, I'm sure I will have a better experience in a penthouse in Ipanema, but this is the price we have to pay with capital investment. It is not easy to change cou.How would the experience be better in Brazil? I haven't been there.
ColombiaLover
08-01-20, 03:54
I am glad you mentioned the booze. I totally forgot about that. They are intrigued by names and the look of the bottle. They don't know the difference in taste. Better to put Popov in a Tito's bottle.
ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.
Have you recently woke up in the middle of the night and discovered you came while sleeping, as this sounds like a dream you had.Without getting into Freud's theory too much. I wish I am only dreaming, I can really get what I'm describing in Medellin, which explains why I'm in so much pain right now.
ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.
Mr Enternational
08-01-20, 06:00
I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.They can also taste something they have had before and not know the difference. No need to be a big shot when you can just play the big shot role and get the same results.
Years ago I went on a cruise with my friends. I brought a bottle of Bacardi Black Cherry. Of course I had to put it in a water bottle to sneak it on the boat. Why was I able to trick these chicks into believing I had Promethazine? Of course Pro-M is purple and mine was clear, but I told them I knew chemistry and was able to take the color out so I would not get busted. They thought they were getting high and we were fucking before I knew it.
SlapShot10
08-01-20, 13:55
No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.
I've never done this, and it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but for our Cheap Charlies, this is easily something you could do. Imagine Blakman pouring a glass of "Ron Zacapa" with his snacks tray. I base this off many, many experiences of providing girls with alcohol they have never tasted before. For instance, when I first introduced Wifey to Tito's, no no no no no Smirnoff for me. Why? Probably because some gringo introduced her to Smirnoff, or that's what she has at her barrio DJ parties. I begged her to try Tito's. Before you know it, she's a fucking sales rep. She's telling all her friends that Tito's is so much better. They're leaving glasses of Tito's & juice or soda all over the fucking apartment. I could easily put Smirnoff in there and they'd have zero clue. I'm no liquor connoisseur, but the same can be said about wine. I forget who has reported several times about buying wine from D1. I could substitute that for my $30 bottle from Carulla, no problem. I've also had girls come over and ask for just random shit. Can I get you a drink? Ya, do you have Bailey's? WHAT? You think this is a fucking bar, or what? It reminds me of the scene in Narcos where the guy stationed in NYC brings back a bottle of Jack Daniels for one of the heads of the Cali Cartel. It could have been Evan Williams or Old Fitzgerald, with the same intended result. Remember, we're talking about low-estrato barrio girls. In short, they don't fucking know the difference between a Tito's Jell-O shot or a white vinegar Jell-O shot.
I had a repeat on Wednesday night with one of Wifey's pulls. Good times. She has a tight little body, cute face, enjoys being here, but is the same kind of leave chips and candy wrappers in the bed type. She makes masculine sounds when she's really into the sex, which is a turn-off, but otherwise it's good. Cost was about 30 k roundtrip Uber. Thursday I had a repeat of the SA girl that is just amazing, sexually. She is much more refined than the average paisa that I spend time with. We, again, enjoyed a bottle of wine and more in-depth, normal conversation. She had said she didn't want to come over because she can tell she's going to be stupid and fall for me. No jacuzzi, just steaks, wine, music, and fucking. She is the best I've had in Medellin, I think. For Round 2, she went into the bathroom and put on some sexy black lingerie. She gives amazing head, she fucks like crazy, and she has good rhythm. Some girls will over-do it and kill the rhythm. She gets wild sometimes, but she has a good sense of submission, as well. She's incredibly passionate, with a large appetite for cock. I had her face-down on the bed, hands on the floor trying not to fall off, screaming. She orgasmed from oral and sex, several times. She had to work in the morning so she was over from about 730 p to 1130 p. The only downside with her is no photos. Cost was 80 k roundtrip for taxi here, Uber back.
I'm seeing about a 50/50 as far as girls willing to go out during the weekend lockdowns. I might have Pinky come over for a couple days, starting tonight. I'm just glad I can watch some sports, this weekend.
The Tall Man
08-01-20, 14:11
SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.
1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.
2) Often have shoddy tatoos.
3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.
4) Can drink most of us under the table.
5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).
6) Can be very loud.
7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.
Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.
Thanks, by this description, most the girls in gusto are not in this category. I don't know Spanish, so I can't tell whether my girls are using slangs or not, almost all the girls I see in Medellin has some tattoos. I can drink a lot, haven't found any girls who can out drink me yet. A girl did stole a new bottle of whiskey from me once.
I wonder if there is any correlation between Estrato and the level of services they provide. It seems like the best service is unlikely to come from the highest and the lowest estrato.True all this about these barrio girls but every so often I find one that can be so much fun for a few hours but then don't ever think about taking one to my man cave as these girls, especially some when they get high, will become a problem as they want to continue to party and can be very annoying and even embarrassing if you brought her to your apartment.
The Tall Man.
I've never done this, and it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but for our Cheap Charlies, this is easily something you could do. Imagine Blakman pouring a glass of "Ron Zacapa" with his snacks tray. I base this off many, many experiences of providing girls with alcohol they have never tasted before. For instance, when I first introduced Wifey to Tito's, no no no no no Smirnoff for me. Why? Probably because some gringo introduced her to Smirnoff, or that's what she has at her barrio DJ parties. I begged her to try Tito's. Before you know it, she's a fucking sales rep. She's telling all her friends that Tito's is so much better. They're leaving glasses of Tito's & juice or soda all over the fucking apartment. I could easily put Smirnoff in there and they'd have zero clue. I'm no liquor connoisseur, but the same can be said about wine. I forget who has reported several times about buying wine from D1. I could substitute that for my $30 bottle from Carulla, no problem. I've also had girls come over and ask for just random shit. Can I get you a drink? Ya, do you have Bailey's? WHAT? You think this is a fucking bar, or what? It reminds me of the scene in Narcos where the guy stationed in NYC brings back a bottle of Jack Daniels for one of the heads of the Cali Cartel. It could have been Evan Williams or Old Fitzgerald, with the same intended result. Remember, we're talking about low-estrato barrio girls. In short, they don't fucking know the difference between a Tito's Jell-O shot or a white vinegar Jell-O shot.Bailey's. Now there's a flashback. One of my former regulars wanted me to get some rum for a trio. I didn't go all out, but went higher quality than necessary. I honestly don't think she had ever tasted rum before. Next time she asked for Bailey's. That's something she definitely had never tasted before.
PolloNegro
08-01-20, 18:24
I can tell you this, I just rented a brand new apartment in Buenos Aires area of Medellin. Three bedroom, 2 bath, and I furnished the apartment off and paid the entire rent for the full year with utilities included for under $6,000 usd. I have finally reached the bottom of what I need to live here in Medellin on a minimum income. Yesterday was the first time that I actually saw that having $50,000 pesos daily, is more than enough money to get you through 2-3 days. When I first arrived 3 years ago and I knew that I would only be here for 14 days at the most, I had no limit on the amount of silver that I would spend. Now that I do not know how long I will be here, it is a nice feeling to know that your bills are paid for an entire year and no one can ask you for anything outside the range of $100,000 pesos for maybe shoes or clothes.
Once you know, you know and there is no turning back. When these girls receive $200,000 pesos for a date, if they receive all $200,000 pesos, they have easily received enough money for the week. No one has to tell me this, because I clearly see it myself. If you have food and a place to stay, your outlook is unlimited, especially if you're earning American Money while living here in Medellin. I have decided that I will now budget around $600-$750,000 pesos a month for my living expense and that's with 3 people eating and that's 3 meals a day. It took some time to find my place but once I found it and got everything put in writing, it was a no brainer for me. I no longer have to budget for rent or anything extra. So if you are living at home with your parents and you are earning $200,000 pesos twice weekly, you are doing very well here in Medellin.
I have learned that there are many good furniture stores and glass stores in and near Prado. The Furniture is good, but rarely does anyone sell everything that you need so you really have to piece everything together from store to store. For example, example, you may have one person who sells beds, but they don't sell living room sets, they may sell living room sets, but the glass table isn't long enough to support your TV so you have to buy a customized glass top from the glass store, all in all, everything that you need to fill a 3 bedroom apartment can be found in Prado Centro. If you travel to the region about Vera Cruz near Parque Botero you can find any curtains, bed spreads, and comforter set that you need. In Centro and Carrera Junin, you can find anything you need for plates and eating utensils. I now have a real peace of mind and there is no need for my girlfriend to bug me about an apartment anymore.
I can now concentrate on who I want to bang, I get messages everyday asking for citas, but I just did not have the time to entertain anyone until I got my living arrangements satisfied. So now I can decide who I really want to bang and who can arrive on time. I really have no more than an hour or two to be away from the apartment. You live and you learn, had I known that I would be able to get an apartment for so cheap there is no way I would have wasted the amount of money I did on the first 5 months here. I am learning from the board and other resources, no matter what barrios these chicas live in, if you are in Medellin at the time and you have a minimum of $200,000 pesos to blow, you can have almost anyone of the girls you want. So it's not being a cheap charlie, it's more about knowing your surroundings and how to function within those surroundings. Everyone stay safe and bang more chicas! Pollo Negro is out!
How would the experience be better in Brazil? I haven't been there.In my opinion, the mongering culture in Brazil is, in general, better than anywhere on earth. I'm a frequent visitor to Rio, for me, Rio is more beautiful than Medellin, it has one of the most gorgeous landscape in the world. Girls in Brazil are hotter, crazier and the average service is better. I have yet found a girl in Brazil who doesn't offer DFK, 80% of the girls I encountered in Rio offer and enjoy anal. The termas in Rio is like the FKKs in Germany, the facility is a bit subpar compare to its German counterparts, but the passions of the girls there more than makeup for it. You can make out with a girl for hours in the club before taking her to a room. There are free lancer pick up bars and clubs on the beach, they open until 6-9 am, I love to party all night, for me, a real party should start at 2 am.
I normally spend my first week in Brazil collecting numbers from girls in termas and at mab (the go to late night pick up place in copacabana). In the second week, the party moves to my apartment, I had some amazing threesomes in Brazil. Mongering in Brazil is a bit more costly compare to Medellin, but the difference become almost invisible when compared against San Francisco. Once you establish a solid list of girls, and treating them well, the price will come down to near Medellin level (well, I should say near Poblado level). The combination of the sexiness of Brazilian Portuguese, wild and super hot girls, well established mongering venues, a beautiful beach, and the top tier international city infrastructure make Rio one of the best place on earth for me.
Medellin on the other hand, is smaller, cuter, and has the best weather on earth. You don't get the variety of girls like what you can find in Brazil, for example, in Brazil I can easily find blondes with green eyes and brunettes with blue eyes, where as in Medellin it would be a rare find. The aesthetics of Medellin as a city attracts me, I love the afternoon rain, the humbleness of the people and their good taste in music. I long for the magical feeling I get while strolling down the street in Medellin. If one spend enough time searching and building relationships with the chicas in Medellin, one can enjoy Brazil level mongering experience in this boutique and mysteriously beautiful city.
JohnDarkSmith
08-01-20, 20:09
Hey,
I hope everything is fine for you there. Are you enjoying your stay? It has been quite a long time now.
I just reviewed your message and I wanted to ask:
Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?
Not trying to get into any inconvenient detail but, I was wondering, do you plan to stay there an entire year? I mean, even if they do open the border, I don't know, in 6 months let us say?
ColombiaLover
08-01-20, 21:37
I would not bother re-filling bottles either. But I know the point I was making (and that I assume he was making) is that these girls do not know the difference between good liquor, wine, or beer and shit. Since I rarely drink any more (perhaps unless I go out), I don't bother buying high-end stuff for the apartment. I might get some rum and some Aguila Light. If I bring anything from the states, it's not high-end, but they don't know that. I wouldn't mind paying for something good if I thought they really could tell and appreciate the difference. For them, it's free booze, so they really don't care in the end.
No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.
Black Page
08-01-20, 22:27
I honestly don't think she had ever tasted rum before. .Come on... And Ron Medellin?
SlapShot10
08-01-20, 23:21
I furnished the apartment off and paid the entire rent for the full yearPN, apologies if you already responded, but sometimes I miss things when the delayed-approval messages start sliding into the thread. Anyway, do you already have a visa? Are you planning to apply for an extension in September?
Thanks.
PN, apologies if you already responded, but sometimes I miss things when the delayed-approval messages start sliding into the thread. Anyway, do you already have a visa? Are you planning to apply for an extension in September?
Thanks.Interesting that he would pay for an apartment for a year in advance, and unless he already has a visa, not a tourist visa, if that's what he entered the Country on, he may have a problem getting an extension and forced to leave the Country. One thing for sure is he will be considered a "tax resident" once the clock is re-set by immigration and he has been in the Country over six months, and will be required to file with DIAN, albeit he may not owe anything. Perhaps he will explain how he is addressing all this because it sounds odd, unless he has something other then a tourist visa that he got upon arrival.
Mr Enternational
08-02-20, 02:33
, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. Well the beauty of it is that cheap liquor to us is still expensive liquor to them. So they are impressed at any price point.
Mr Enternational
08-02-20, 02:50
Interesting that he would pay for an apartment for a year in advance, and unless he already has a visa, not a tourist visa, if that's what he entered the Country on, he may have a problem getting an extension and forced to leave the Country. Perhaps he will explain how he is addressing all this because it sounds odd, unless he has something other then a tourist visa that he got upon arrival.There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.
Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.
Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.
PolloNegro
08-02-20, 03:26
I tried renting the normal way & was told this, then I found the apartment for a year & furnished off! Pollo negro is out!
Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.A good Poblado penthouse with one to two bedroom, panoramic view of the city, and a jacuzzi cost about 3000 dollars per month, that is still a steal compare to California. The good ones are almost never available. A upside of the covid situation is that a lot of good penthouses are available now, for me, it make sense to sign a year lease, when I'm not in Medellin, I can very easily Airbnb it out.
PolloNegro
08-02-20, 03:30
There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.
Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.
He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.No need to travel with luggage for a year, plus I put myself in a position to work stress free for the next 3 months. My girl knows the rent is paid for the next year, and Friday alone, I recovered more than 80% of the $6000 that I spent. For some the Quarantine has been disastrous, for me it has been a financial blessing. Pollo negro is out!
What I miss, what I miss. Anybody know the real scoop between slapshot and technically ex wifey. Most 18 year olds don't give up living in a penthouse, free gourmet dinner, top shelve liquor, tussi. You think she found out the Tito's was really smirnoff. Gimmie the scoop yall.
Blakman always blessed.
There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.
Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.
He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.Every Country's visa requirements are different, and in Colombia, you will not be allowed to stay in the Country for more than six months a year on a tourist visa, so your saying that you would rent a place year round yet plan on using it only six months a year. Makes sense for budget digs if all the utilities and cable are included, because if not, you need a Cedula to obtain service. Most guys probably aren't going to want to stay in Prado living as a local, yet for the Poblado Penthouse guys, myself included, it would seem odd to pay for something I could only be able to use six months a year, yet have to pay for a year.
PolloNegro
08-02-20, 04:20
I always wonder doe these events only happen to me, because many BM's seem shocked when I state what I have done and why I did it. 3 weeks ago everyone in Medellin was telling me that because I was a gringo and my girlfriend was a Vennie, we would not be allowed to rent an apartment, that I would continue to have to rent the airbnb where I am currently staying. Nothing is wrong with the place I stay now, it is just too small to accommodate everything that I was trying to do. Rumor has it, that most gringo's abuse these women and return to America then the once girlfriend has to fend for herself.
I promised my girl that I would make sure that she was good for the next year and when I am able to leave, I would return throughout the year to visit. A few facts, I have had this woman living with me since late April and I have not been poisoned, I have not been sick, I have not had any item stolen from my place and I have not contracted any STDs. So in a 4 month span, if someone cooks, cleans, wash clothes, and has sex with me when I want and how I want, out of respect, I make sure that they are financially stable for the accommodations that they have provided. Given my history with chics in Medellin, even myself, I am very surprised no one has robbed me or poisoned me because over a 3 year span, I have learned a lot about the women of Medellin.
People are people and they have many strange ideas about Americans and many Colombians and Venezuelans have a deep rooted hatred for Americans, trust me I found this out the hard way. Many of these working girls have shown me that they are just as opportunistic as people growing up in the Ghettos of America. I grew up in the Ghettos of america and I know what it is like to live hand to mouth. Many have confided in me and told me, that they all think gringos are stupid, rich, and wasteful with money. I can easily see why they think that after spending 3 years here mongering.
One of the harsh realities of being Afro-Latino is the fact that many Colombians and Venezuelans have never see wealthy Americans of color, especially if they are not actors or athletes. It doesn't make it easier if you are an American without a foreign cedula and your girlfriend is Afro-Latina Vennie without the proper documents. Colombia exploit Vennies without papers, just as America exploits blacks without education. My girlfriend and I looked for about a month before we found someone who was serious about renting us an apartment. After the paperwork was notarized and presented to me and some reliable Colombian friends of mine, the guy who the agency sent to complete the deal was so nervous when I gave him $9,000,000 pesos cash, that it was only then that these people have never seen people of color who really have money at their disposal. I told the guy that no one was going to harm him and that he was safe and we walked him to his car parked downstairs, but it was hard to realize that many of these people have never been around $3000 usd cash. It is what is though.
As a business man, I have worked in the same profession for the past 27 years, 22 of those years, I built my career and over the last 5 years, I have been at the top of my professional career. I have owned my own businesses since 2013 and I know how business works and numbers work. I came to Medellin for a Medical procedure and every penny that I have spent since I have been here will be added to that medical expense, so this all works in my favor. No matter what I spend here in Medellin, it will be contributed to my medical expense and it will probably get me my biggest income tax return ever. While living here in Medellin, I have ways to receive payment for services without it ever affecting my business numbers, so as far as income; it appears that I stopped working back in March. I have an accountant to help me with things like this. So if Colombia wants me to pay income tax on the money I earned up until March, no problem.
I am still amazed that many people act as though the world has not changed since the quarantine, it has and those of us who were ready are truly capitalizing by working from home. I work for myself from home so no one tracks my income, because I can have payments re-routed to other accounts that have nothing to do with my business or me. It has always been the American way, it has never been about how much income you make in America, it has always been about how much income they can prove you made in America. As far as Colombia goes, it looks like I only spend money in Colombia, it does not look like I earn a penny when I am here. As far as the Colombian government is concerned, I am here to have my teeth fixed and that is my original reason for coming to Colombia in March. As a good faith gesture to show many who know me from Park Botero, I want them to see, that all Americans are not here to mistreat chicas who work the streets and even when we leave and return to America it does not mean we will make every chic that we have banged suffer until we return again. I have always been the kind of guy to treat people the way that they treat me. Pollo Negro is out!
Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?
I tried renting the normal way & was told this, then I found the apartment for a year & furnished off! Pollo negro is out!If you paid for the year up front you can get around a lot of the crap. If I understand correctly, the rental agent is responsible for the rent if the renter doesn't pay. Since the rental terms are usually 12 months, if a gringo signs a lease and bails after 1 month the agent is stuck paying the owner. That's why most gringos have to get a Colombian to co-sign.
Strata of the area will influence the cost of an apartment dramatically, let's say when it drops from predominantly 6 to 3; Spanish version of wiki posts all barrios and stratas (socio-economic development) and distribution within an area.
Mr Enternational
08-02-20, 07:19
Every Country's visa requirements are different, and in Colombia, you will not be allowed to stay in the Country for more than six months a year on a tourist visa, so your saying that you would rent a place year round yet plan on using it only six months a year. Makes sense for budget digs if all the utilities and cable are included, because if not, you need a Cedula to obtain service. Most guys probably aren't going to want to stay in Prado living as a local, yet for the Poblado Penthouse guys, myself included, it would seem odd to pay for something I could only be able to use six months a year, yet have to pay for a year.But you end up paying less over time with the 1 year lease than you are paying with a month to month or day to day. For example the apartment I stay in in Thailand you can rent by the day for $16 ($480/mo). Because I have a 1 year lease I end up paying less than $5/day at $140/mo. So by having a lease, I pay the same for 1 year as I would pay for 3.5 months not having a lease. So it makes no difference if I am not here for 6 months, because at 3.5 months I have already gotten my money's worth compared with a day-to-day or month-to-month stay.
headed over to my buddy's apartment in Prado Centro. He pays US$250/month for this place. 3BR 2BA. He said the utilities are in his name except for the cable. You need a cedula for the cable because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150K to put it in their name.
JohnDarkSmith
08-02-20, 12:39
That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?Well, to me (and this is the key here) when I put everything on balance, it looks seriously expensive, partly because I made the comparison with what I pay close to Paris (500 $ USD a month after conversion), my apartment certainly being a bit smaller, but I would still expect to pay less if I was to rent in Colombia. I realize that it depends on each person needs, and approach of the activity.
For example, if I can only stay there 6 months, then it is 6000/6 = 1000 $ a month.
I personally (also?) pay more than I would if I was trying to restrain to the minimum.
Hey, actually I was trying to figure out the reason why 6000 $ a year was a great deal, now I think I have a clearer view, I have just had a small discussion with PN who shared a few details with me.
Have a nice day guys, and please post reports!
Within sections of medellin the estrata can vary. As for example, Envigado has approximately 20% in Estrada 5 and 20% in Estrada 2. All depends on the location of the building. Like anywhere else the price of real estate is dependent on location and location and location. I was interested in getting a lease just before the pandemic but obviously now I have to wait. The real estate agent that I normally go thru for short time apartments was going to work with me on that. At the time 550 USD per month was doable in laureles. Everyone has different requirements. For me it is a quiet area near a gym and parks. AC is a must and strong reliable Wi-Fi. Above all safety. I stay in residential areas where I walk out at night to eat or watch a movie with a girlfriend. Never had any issues or felt unsafe. If I can not go out at night in the section I am in, I don't want it. In order to determine if a place is a good deal or not you need to know the exact location.
That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?
But you end up paying less over time with the 1 year lease than you are paying with a month to month or day to day. For example the apartment I stay in in Thailand you can rent by the day for $16 ($480/mo). Because I have a 1 year lease I end up paying less than $5/day at $140/mo. So by having a lease, I pay the same for 1 year as I would pay for 3.5 months not having a lease. So it makes no difference if I am not here for 6 months, because at 3.5 months I have already gotten my money's worth compared with a day-to-day or month-to-month stay.Perfect logic, I agree, but Thailand isn't Colombia, and for higher end rentals in Medellin, you will not be getting a nice apartment in either Poblado or Laueles at 33% of the daily rate if you rent by the year. To further compound things, unless someone living in a rented apartment has a Colombian Cedula, they will not be able to get utilities. Anyone in Colombia who does not have a Cedula, meaning a foreigner, will be in the Country on a tourist visa, so they will have to find an apartment that includes utilities and cable and that will drive the monthly cost up. I don't know how things work in Thailand, but I'm guessing that you pay for your utilities separately as I know you need AC there.
Right now in Medellin due to the Pandemic, there are luxury Penthouses renting as low as 50 to 60 % of the pre-pandemic rates, but none of the owners are renting at 1/3 of the pre-pandemic rates. Owners of apartments have monthly association or management fees if there are Portero's, along with cable and electrical services, and property taxes. So renting at 1/3 might be a viable option to just cover operating costs, but it's unlikely you will find an owner who used to get $ 3,000 a month for a Penthouse dropping his price to a $ 1,000 a month for a years lease.
Now when it comes to apartments in the lower strata neighborhoods of Medellin, apartments without AC and basic TIGO cable, and no building administrators, I can see the rates being 1/3 for a years lease as you have described, so no argument that you can save money leasing for a year when it comes to living like a local in a lower strata neighborhood.
Within sections of medellin the estrata can vary. As for example, Envigado has approximately 20% in Estrada 5 and 20% in Estrada 2. All depends on the location of the building. Like anywhere else the price of real estate is dependent on location and location and location. I was interested in getting a lease just before the pandemic but obviously now I have to wait. The real estate agent that I normally go thru for short time apartments was going to work with me on that. At the time 550 USD per month was doable in laureles. Everyone has different requirements. For me it is a quiet area near a gym and parks. AC is a must and strong reliable Wi-Fi. Above all safety. I stay in residential areas where I walk out at night to eat or watch a movie with a girlfriend. Never had any issues or felt unsafe. If I can not go out at night in the section I am in, I don't want it. In order to determine if a place is a good deal or not you need to know the exact location.Very true and somewhat perplexing as to how they determine Estrata levels in Medellin. I don't know the percentages, but in the Manila barrio in Poblado, there are apartments that are Estrata 4, and the same applies in the Patio Bonito barrio in Poblado where there is a mix of Estrata 5 and 6 apartments. Besides location as you mentioned I also believe the age of the building is a factor that is used as well.
Come on... And Ron Medellin?J2 bee knows all Colombians have tried rum, perhaps he was having a rum and coke when writing his post, and mean't to say gin or something else, but I don't think rum.
Gringo Trooper
08-02-20, 16:28
Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?
For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).
Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?
For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.
Cheers.
Not sure if any of this is new and different from WT's lists but found this on a local Medellin forum so thought I'd share. The links did not copy / paste so, sorry for that!!
Dating Houses, Reserved in Medellin.
Club de Amigas Sexy.
Address: Carrera 45 the, between streets 57 and 58.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS), 10 AM to 4 PM (DO-FE).
Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).
Go to Sexy Friends Page in.
New Life.
Directory Address: Calle 56, between races 43 and 44.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).
Go to New Life Page in.
Zandaly Directory.
Address: Carrera 47, between 57 A and 58 streets.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Rates: $ 35,000 (30 minutes), $ 65,000 (1 hour).
Go toPage Zandaly Directory.
Aiffe.
Address: Calle 57, between races 43 and 44.
Hours: 10 am to 7 pm (LS).
Fees: $ 40,000 (30 minutes), $ 70,000 (1 hour).
Safari (ex Andromeda).
Address: Carrera 46 (Av. Oriental), at curve 57 A (it is a building).
Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Turcos Paradise.
Address: Calle 54, between races 42 and 43, Downtown.
Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Chicas Punto Com.
Address: Calle 54 (Caracas), between streets 49 and 50,2nd floor.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Pamela's (ex-Paisa Relax).
Address: Carrera 45 (El Palo), # 57-71.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Casa Barcelona.
Address: Calle 59, # 50-12 (behind CES Clinic).
Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (MS).
Club Iris.
Address: Calle 65, # 52-73.
Hours: 10 PM to 2 AM (JS).
Info: they are ladies who come from others reserved.
Fantasias Energy.
Address: Carrera 74, between 49th and 50th streets, Barrio Estadio.
Hours: 10 AM to 9 PM (LS).
Rates: $ 130,000 (30 minutes), $ 160,000 (1 hour).
Go to Fantasias Energy Directory Page.
Ardientes Gatitas.
Address: Carrera 80 with calle 32 the (it is a building).
Hours: 1 PM to 7 PM (MS).
Abydos.
Address: Avenida 33, entre Carrera 64 and 65, Conquistadores.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Rates: $ 60,000 (30 minutes), $ 120,000 (1 hour).
Manos de Seda.
Address: Calle 30, between Carrera 72 and 73, Beland.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).
Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).
Girls Club.
Address: Carrera 70, between 25th and 26th streets (near the Airport).
Hours: 24 hours (LS).
Loutron Club.
Address: Calle 16 A Sur, # 9 e-500, LOS Balsos.
Hours: 10 AM to 11 PM (LJ).
Rates: $ 160,000 (30 minutes), $ 220,000 (1 hour).
Bars, Whiskerias, Night Clubs in Medellin.
Nightclub San Diego Show.
Address: Carrera 43 A, # 36-35, Local 104.
Hours: 10 PM to 3 AM (MS).
Go to Page of San Diego Show in Directory.
Disco Fase 2.
Address: Carrera 44, # 30-15, Barrio Colombia.
Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).
Go to Phase 2 Page in.
Club El Faizand.
Directory Address: Calle 36, # 46-08,2nd floor.
Hours: 3 AM to 6 AM (JS).
Info: they are ladies who come from other bars, they open late.
Apotheosis Nightclub.
Address: Calle 44 (San Juan), 73-58.
Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (JS).
Nightclub Luna Lunera.
Address: Avenida 33, # 63 be-215, Conquistadores.
Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).
La Barra Ejecutiva.
Address: Calle 53, # 49-70, Centro.
Hours: 11 AM to 11 PM (MS).
Maracaibo Bar Show.
Address: Calle 53, # 49-82, Centro.
Hours: 11 AM to 11 PM (MS).
Conejitas Bar Show.
Address: Calle 53, # 51-41, Centro.
Hours: 6 PM to 1 AM (MS).
Grill Occidental.
Address: Carrera 52, # 53-158, Centro.
Hours: 6 PM to 2 AM (MS).
Taberna Victoria.
Address: Calle 53, # 52 A-26, Centro.
Hours: 7 PM to 2 AM (MS).
Bar Taberna Montijo.
Address: Diagonal 50, # 49-15, Centro.
Hours: 2 PM to 1 AM (LS).
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Address: Calle 53, # 51-18, Centro.
Hours: 6 PM to 2 AM (MS).
Boulevard del Norte (ex La Pega).
Address: Carrera 64 see, # 74-68.
Hours: 6 PM to 1 AM (MS).
La Isla Club.
Address: Carrera 28, # 19 A-97 (Km 5, Via Las Palmas).
Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).
Massage Centers, Spas in Medellin.
Oriental Spa Medellin.
Address: Calle 49 be, between races 77 A and 77 be, Stadium.
Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (LS).
Go to Oriental Spa Page in Directory.
Tantra Spa Where my King.
Address: Carrera 80 with 44 be, La Amrica.
Hours: 11 AM to 10 PM (MS).
Mandalay Spa.
Address: Carrera 81 see, between Calle 49 F and 50, Calasanz.
Hours: 2 PM to 7 PM (MS).
Phone: 3024502139.
Sala Rostros.
Address: Street 43, between races 68 A and 69, San Joaquin.
Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (MS).
Kaori Spa.
Address: Carrera 79, between 48 be and 49 streets, Estadio.
Hours: 10 AM to 6 PM (MS).
Spa Angels Men's.
Address: Carrera 80 near Exito, Laureles.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (MS).
The Secret Spa.
Address: Carrera 70 A, between 43 and 44 streets. Laureles.
Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (MS).
Sala Imperio Erotico VIP.
Address: 32 F Street, between races 65 see and 65 the.
Hours: 10:30 AM to 7 PM (LS), 12 M to 6 PM (DO).
Rates: Ask.
Erotic Spa.
Address: Carrera 29 the with 7 A street, Poblado.
Hours: 2 PM to 6 PM (JS).
Jade Palace.
Address: Carrera 38, between 10th and 10th streets, Poblado.
Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (MS).
Swingers Clubs in Medellin.
Swinger Club La Piscina.
Address: Calle 52, # 73-46, Cuarta Brigada.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).
Casa del Guru Swinger Club.
Address: Avenida 80 with calle 43, Laureles Lorena.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (JS).
Open Mind Club Swinger.
Address: Calle 30, # 55-153, Conquistadores.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).
Lili Club Swinger.
Address: Carrera 44, # 25-45, Barrio Colombia.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).
Dreams Swinger Club.
Address: Carrera 44, # 26-02, Barrio Colombia.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).
Elite Swinger Club.
Address: Diagonal 74 be, # 32 the-15, Laureles.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).
Swinger Bello Club.
Address: Carrera 52, # 32-36,4th floor, Beautiful.
Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (JS).
Street *s in Medellin.
Callejeras CC San Diego.
Address: Carrera 45 with calle 34, sides of CC San Diego.
Hours: usually after 10 PM.
Callejeras Parque Bolivar.
Address: Surroundings of Bolivar Park.
Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.
Callejeras Parque San Antonio.
Address: Surroundings from San Antonio park.
Hours: usually between 5 PM to 10 PM.
Callejeros Parque de Berrio.
Address: Around Berrio park.
Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.
Callejeras Metro Prado Station.
Address: Around Prado Station Metro.
Hours: usually between 5 PM at 11 PM.
Callejeros El Raudal.
Address: Calle 53 (Avenida De Greiff) with Carrera 54.
Hours: usually after 8 AM.
Callejeros Parque Lleras.
Address: Carrera 40 between 9th and 10th streets.
Hours: Usually after 8 PM (JS).
Sala Villanueva Cine Erotico.
Address: Carrera 51, # 54-4, Centro.
Hours: 1 PM to 8 PM (LS).
Admission fee: $ 6,000.
Sinfonia Sala Erotico Cinema.
Address: Carrera 47, # 53-29, Centro.
Hours: 1 PM to 8 PM (LS).
Admission fee: $ 6,000.
Callejeras Carrera 52.
Address: Carrera 52, from calle 51 to 54.
Hours: usually between 8 AM to 11 PM.
Callejeras Carrera 53.
Address: Carrera 53, from Calle 51 to 54.
Hours: usually between 8 AM to 11 PM.
Callejeras Calle 54.
Address: Calle 54, from Carrera 47 to 51.
Hours: Usually between 10 AM to 11 PM.
Callejeras Parque de las Luces.
Address: Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan) in front of Alcaldia de Medelland.
Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.
Callejeras Mayorista Itagui.
Address: Calle 85, from Carrera 48 to 52 the.
Hours: usually after 10 PM (JS).
Callejeras Plaza Minorista.
Address: Carrera 57 between streets 57 and 58.
Hours: usually after 8 PM (JS).
Info: it is a care area.
Hotels, Motels in Medellin.
Executive Motel la 33.
Address: Avenida 33 # 63 be-201, Conquistadores.
Motel Thematic Luxury.
Address: Calle 34, # 64-57, Conquistadores.
Hotel Colonial.
Address: Carrera 81, # 34 A- 128.
Hotel Lobby.
Address: Carrera 81, # 34 A-96.
Hotel Temtico San Juan.
Address: Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan), # 80-47.
Motel Thematic Suites.
Address: Calle 51, # 67 be-27.
Motel 3 the Suites.
Address: Calle 51, # 69-47.
Motel LOS Colores.
Address: Carrera 51, # 72 A-13.
Motel Jardand del Amor.
Address: Carrera 51, # 73-90.
Hotel San Juan 70.
Address: Calle 44 (Av. San Juan), # 70-137.
Hotel the'Lusso.
Address: Calle 50 (Av. Colombia), # 68-38.
Hotel Gran Colombia.
Address: Calle 50, # 76-115, Estadio.
Eros Hotel.
Address: Calle 54, # 54-31, Centro.
Noches Divinas Hotel.
Address: Carrera 53, # 50-50, Centro.
Exotic Hotel.
Address: Calle 55, # 52-48 , Center.
Hotel Gold.
Address: Carrera 45, # 50-23, Centro.
Hotel Momentos Plaza.
Address: Calle 49, # 43-62, Centro.
Hotel Mansiand.
Address: Carrera 43, # 53-38, Centro.
Motel Penthouse.
Address: Calle 63, # 115-51, San Cristobal.
Motel Las Cabaas.
Address: Calle 14, # 43 F-65, Poblado.
Hotel Central Plaza.
Address: Carrera 50 A, # 81 A-15, Itagui.
Motel Ibiza Lounge.
Address: Carrera 42, # 79-39, Itagui.
Motel Invegas.
Address: Calle 52 Sur, # 43 A-95, Sabaneta.
Motel La Suite.
Address: Carrera 55 with calle 87 Sur, La Estrella.
Motel Los Dos.
Address: Carrera 55,80 sur- 206, La Estrella.
Motel 40 Grados.
Address: Carrera 50, # 88 a Sur-145, La Estrella.
Motel LOS Chalets.
Address: Calle 80 Sur, # 55-71, La Estrella.
Motel El Bosque.
Address: Calle 80 Sur, # 55-115, La Estrella.
Motel Monaco.
Address: Carrera 50, # 91 Sur-45, Itagui.
Motel Aries.
Address: Carrera 50, # 79 see Sur 43, La Estrella.
Motel Princess.
Address: Calle 46, # 69-67, Copacabana.
Motel Paraso.
Address: Diagonal 53, # 14-66 , Bello.
Motel Eclipse.
Address: Diagonal 53, # 14-20, Bello.
Hotel Habibi.
Address: Carrera 50, # 32-13, Bello.
Motel Complicidades.
Address: Diagonal 52, # 12-43, Bello.
Motel El Descanso del Amor.
Address: Autopista Medelland-Bogot, Km. 4.
Just Incognito
08-02-20, 17:23
A thorough lockdown on International travel, combined with aggressive testing and contact tracing, could have prevented the pandemic, if it had been done in early January. That window has closed. International travel bans now are to reduce the strain on local resources while countries attempt to get their infection rate under control.
Getting the infection rate under control is a three step process. First is to minimize the possibility of infection. Social distancing, masks, cancelling large gatherings, shutdowns. All these things work to reduce the spread. We know they work, we've seen the results.
Next step is identification. Until you get a handle on the infection rate, identification is a waste of money. Of course if you jump on identification at the first sign, you have a possibility to avoid the shutdown step It's simple, you test every suspect. Anyone positive you test all their contacts and you keep tracing contacts until you identify every infected person.
Then you isolate them. If this is all carried out diligently, most things can return to normal after about 12 weeks. Which is what we've seen in several countries. However, if you don't stay the course, you either just say "fuck it" and let it run its course, or you have to start over with a 12 week shutdown.
Everyone wants to make it political. Viruses are apolitical. They behave exactly the same regardless of geography, politics or religion. Until we start treating it like a disease instead of a way to score points, nothing is going to change.Finally someone else says something sensible about this on ISG! Those of us who live outside the US are generally amazed at how idiotic Americans-especially the federal government leaders are being with all this.
SlapShot10
08-02-20, 17:37
What I miss, what I miss. Anybody know the real scoop between slapshot and technically ex wifey. Most 18 year olds don't give up living in a penthouse, free gourmet dinner, top shelve liquor, tussi. You think she found out the Tito's was really smirnoff. Gimmie the scoop yall.
Blakman always blessed.Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.
Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Pinky orgasmed and then laid next to us. I had the friend squat over me so I could pound her, then flipped her over, and finished on her back. We all went to bed about an hour later. I got them an Uber, and paid Pinky's rent for the month (300 k). Pinky brought over a gram of tussi (70 k), so all-in-all I paid about 330 k for the bareback threesome, 2 pops, and a free bag. Smirnoff ices consumed makes it a wash.
Pinky had said she was bored, so she invited her friend. I asked he what she'd be doing if she was at home, and she said the same. Playing on her phone. I guess, you mix in a jacuzzi and some free drinks, and you can more easily changed boredom to a little fiesta. A good night, and I was very happily surprised by the friend's performance. I'll leave a couple Pinky photos so you understand what I mean about her bikini rental.
If you paid for the year up front you can get around a lot of the crap. If I understand correctly, the rental agent is responsible for the rent if the renter doesn't pay. Since the rental terms are usually 12 months, if a gringo signs a lease and bails after 1 month the agent is stuck paying the owner. That's why most gringos have to get a Colombian to co-sign.No owner or agent will get burnt by a gringo or co-signer entering a 12 month lease as they will require a security deposit, and will require to be paid in advance for the rent at least a couple of months ahead or if not in full like our other poster, versus the rent being paid monthly, hence if a gringo departs early, they won't be out of pocket any money. One of the issues for a gringo though will be getting utilities in their name if they don't have a Cedula, thus requiring a Colombian to do so for them if the utilities are not included which typically is not the case with long term rentals. So if a gringo has a Colombian sign up for utilities with EPM and either CLARO or TIGO and bails not paying the bills, guess what, the Colombian won't be able to get service in their name in the future until the bills are paid by them.
Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?
For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).
Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?
For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.
Cheers.Theoretically this should work, albeit I don't have any personal experience with it, however you won't be issued a visa for 180 days upon arrival but for 90 days and will need to extend it while in Country and then do this again upon departing and returning using your other Passport. However, I don't know what kind of information is in Colombia's immigration databases, meaning perhaps when an American Passport # is entered in the system whether it is noted whether the individual is a dual Citizen with another Country. Hopefully there's another member who knows the answer to your question.
Pinky came over last night. Nice report! Good to a meaningful post amongst all the BS.
BootyBandit84
08-02-20, 22:38
Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?
For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).
Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?
For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.
Cheers.I was also wondering this! I have a dual citizenship and would be stoked if this gave me the opportunity to easily get more time in Colombia.
PolloNegro
08-03-20, 01:59
I was also wondering this! I have a dual citizenship and would be stoked if this gave me the opportunity to easily get more time in Colombia.It is easier to file the correct paperwork and be in the country legally, rather than try and go around loops. Doing it right the first time saves money and embarrassment. I stood in line for 3 hours to buy a $30,000 pesos runt. The runt allows you to buy a car or motorcycle, without it, you'll have to put it in someone else's name. Buy a Motorcycle and it's in your name, and someone has access to it while you are in the US and they get a ticket, when you arrive to Colombia you go straight to the slammer until the fine has been resolved. Going around the Bush in Colombia may not what you want to do. It takes about 60 days to get a driver's license in Colombia, so, take the time to read the paperwork and file for a foreign ID and the correct kind of visa and you can come and go as you please. 2 passports may work, but having a Colombian ID and permission to be here will be so much easier. Pollo Negro is out!
The Tall Man
08-03-20, 02:25
Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.
Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Hats-off to you with trying to keep all the opinions about the virus and political nonsense on point, which is pussy!
The guys who spend so much time debating must have to much time on their hands and must not be here in Medellin.
Like the cutie in your photos, now that's on point and now understand why so much talk is all about nothing as when us Medellin based guys have things like this to play with at anytime we want all the other stuff is simply noise.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.
Not sure if any of this is new and different from WT's lists but found this on a local Medellin forum so thought I'd share. The links did not copy / paste so, sorry for that!!
There is a Medellin List here has the up to date info. Based on some of the out of date prices, I think the list you have is quite old.
Mr Enternational
08-03-20, 02:47
For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.I thought something like that before. I am from Georgia and my best friend is from Texas. One school break we went down to his house and I got a Texas drivers license. From then on when I got pulled over in Georgia I would use my Texas license and never pay the tickets. Finally I went legit. 5 years later I got pulled over and used my Georgia license. Well I thought the system went by license numbers, but it went by name. I had a bench warrant out for my arrest due to unpaid tickets from way back when. So I was hauled off to jail. These days there is even face recognition software, so trying something like that in immigration is less likely to work than it may have been before.
Mr Enternational
08-03-20, 02:55
One of the issues for a gringo though will be getting utilities in their name if they don't have a Cedula, thus requiring a Colombian to do so for them if the utilities are not included which typically is not the case with long term rentals. I posted before that the only utility my buddy was not able to get in his name was the cable due to him not having a Colombian ID, because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150K to put his cable in their name. Everything else you don't need the Colombian ID for.
I posted before that the only utility my buddy was not able to get in his name was the cable due to him not having a Colombian ID, because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150 K to put his cable in their name. Everything else you don't need the Colombian ID for.Actually to have a credit check done on you in Colombia, not only do you need to have a Colombian ID, a cedula, but you also have to register with Experian in Colombia so that they can track you and develop a credit score for you as the Cedula is used for tracking. I know it sounds odd, but this is how it works in Colombia. As an example, if a Colombian doesn't pay a utility company, it will show up on the database for the Cedula. A Colombian Cedula not only is an ID, but also is like a social security number for citizens and others.
And as far as not needing a Colombian ID, well EPM the utility provider requires one and will not accept a foreign Passport, at least that has been my experience, and others I know in Medellin. So perhaps utilities are included in your buddy's apartment which typically is the case in the lower budget apartments because the units are not typically separately metered.
Basically, without a Cedula in Colombia you are very limited as to what you can do such as opening a bank account, obtaining a Colombian credit card, among other things. The other board members living in Medellin not stuck there because of the Pandemic can attest to what I am saying.
I feel you. I agree. I love the Sosua vibe as far as the atmosphere / environment and the talent age. I love the ocean and things to do around the beach.
Heading down to El Centro today. Thinking about hitting Sosua in October for some beach time and a change of pace.
https://youtu.be/B8J2tp13sUY
The Tall Man
08-03-20, 15:53
Actually to have a credit check done on you in Colombia, not only do you need to have a Colombian ID, a cedula, but you also have to register with Experian in Colombia so that they can track you and develop a credit score for you as the Cedula is used for tracking. I know it sounds odd, but this is how it works in Colombia. As an example, if a Colombian doesn't pay a utility company, it will show up on the database for the Cedula. A Colombian Cedula not only is an ID, but also is like a social security number for citizens and others.
And as far as not needing a Colombian ID, well EPM the utility provider requires one and will not accept a foreign Passport, at least that has been my experience, and others I know in Medellin. So perhaps utilities are included in your buddy's apartment which typically is the case in the lower budget apartments because the units are not typically separately metered.
Basically, without a Cedula in Colombia you are very limited as to what you can do such as opening a bank account, obtaining a Colombian credit card, among other things. The other board members living in Medellin not stuck there because of the Pandemic can attest to what I am saying.Much love and respect to all, just my personal experience here in Medellin on these topics.
I was able to obtain my EPM in my name before I had my cedula when I purchased my apartment a bit over 3 years ago. Just need to bring in the apartment title papers.
I also was able to have a Bancolombia account 3 years ago without a cedula (passport only) but it took some effort and checking with different branches.
I also have purchased both motorcycles and autos before cedula but needed to get a RUNT number issued first. Still have the car and all is good.
Cable and my Tigo cell phone was a problem so had a trusted friend help me out.
I also had no issues with getting my Colombian combo auto and motorcycle license issued.
Don't need any credit card so that's a non issue.
The Tall Man.
I am sure you are right and as usual I am "a day late and a dollar short." It looked like there were a few in there that WT did not have on his list or map but it makes sense that if they are old and shutdown, then WT removed them from his excellent list.
There is a Medellin List here has the up to date info. Based on some of the out of date prices, I think the list you have is quite old.
Steve 9696
08-03-20, 17:45
Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.
Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Pinky orgasmed and then laid next to us. I had the friend squat over me so I could pound her, then flipped her over, and finished on her back. We all went to bed about an hour later. I got them an Uber, and paid Pinky's rent for the month (300 k). Pinky brought over a gram of tussi (70 k), so all-in-all I paid about 330 k for the bareback threesome, 2 pops, and a free bag. Smirnoff ices consumed makes it a wash.
Pinky had said she was bored, so she invited her friend. I asked he what she'd be doing if she was at home, and she said the same. Playing on her phone. I guess, you mix in a jacuzzi and some free drinks, and you can more easily changed boredom to a little fiesta. A good night, and I was very happily surprised by the friend's performance. I'll leave a couple Pinky photos so you understand what I mean about her bikini rental.While I would gladly pay Pinky's rent I would never let her leave my apt! Wow. What a body. Lucky guy!
SlapShot10
08-03-20, 19:20
Hats-off to you with trying to keep all the opinions about the virus and political nonsense on point, which is pussy!
Like the cutie in your photos, now that's on point and now understand why so much talk is all about nothing as when us Medellin based guys have things like this to play with at anytime we want all the other stuff is simply noise.
While I would gladly pay Pinky's rent I would never let her leave my apt! Wow. What a body. Lucky guy!I have the SA freebie sex goddess coming over, later today. I'm looking forward to a bottle of wine, some dinner, and having my world rocked, again. I am going to buy 3 bikinis, today. One the exact same as the one in the photos that Pinky was wearing, the other night. The second is a pink special for Pinky. The third is a deep red for the girl, tonight, as a surprise. Again, I get nothing from it, but the'Luchi Swimwear on Instagram. Last purchase, for Wifey, was 3 for 143 k, including same-day delivery. This time, it's 219 k, because the pink bikini is more detailed and expensive. So, I might ask Pinky to come back, tomorrow, just to see her in the new bikini, and see her smile when she receives her gifts.
It's starting to feel a bit less like quarantine, with sports on. Games every day, all day, and a different girl a few times a week. I have a bit too much work to spend the necessary time to rack up numbers, but I'm certainly racking up experiences with girls whose company I enjoy. Of course, I enjoy new pussy, but banging Pinky, et al is a sure-thing. The new pussy is maybe 50/50. I have only had 1-2 disappointing experiences, based on the ratio including the cost. The freebies are always a bonus, but in some cases, I'd rather pay one of my favorites a bit. Luckily, 2 of my current 4 favorites are free. I have taken care of Pinky pretty well. Some times she comes over for "free" but I've bought her a phone and paid 2 months rent. Over the last 4 months, I've probably paid her just over 2. 000.000 COP (including phone cost) but had countless memorable experiences. I wouldn't trade that for 5-10 randoms, even if it was your money. Pinky also asked me the other day when I'm going to invite my amiga over with her. So, I liked the enthusiasm. I'm looking forward to trying out a non-Wifey threesome with Pinky. I'm also slowly trying to get the sex goddess to help me find some one she'd be down to share with. It's a little more tricky, because she doesn't like the barrio / young type that is so common and willing to agree to such arrangements.
Cheers.
Noamsadovnik
08-03-20, 21:32
Not sure if any of this is new and different from WT's lists but found this on a local Medellin forum so thought I'd share. The links did not copy / paste so, sorry for that!!
Dating Houses, Reserved in Medellin.
Club de Amigas Sexy.
Address: Carrera 45 the, between streets 57 and 58.
Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS), 10 AM to 4 PM (DO-FE).
Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).
Go to Sexy Friends Page in..Thanks! Will definitely hit these up in October (hopefully!
But I will do her LOL. Shorten up your stories slapshot. They getting too long. You are copying my style. Hey man I am working out hard at the gym. That's how I get the girls cheap in Colombia. The dick, the body, and my playlist. When you leave in September, then I will come down.
Your driving up the market spending 300 mil. I won't be able to afford any talent with the money you are spending. About LEO's. Keep it short with wifey. I miss you, want to see you text. Nothing more. She will text you when she want dick and theres no other option.
Blakman always blessed.
Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.
Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Pinky orgasmed and then laid next to us. I had the friend squat over me so I could pound her, then flipped her over, and finished on her back. We all went to bed about an hour later. I got them an Uber, and paid Pinky's rent for the month (300 k). Pinky brought over a gram of tussi (70 k), so all-in-all I paid about 330 k for the bareback threesome, 2 pops, and a free bag. Smirnoff ices consumed makes it a wash.
Pinky had said she was bored, so she invited her friend. I asked he what she'd be doing if she was at home, and she said the same. Playing on her phone. I guess, you mix in a jacuzzi and some free drinks, and you can more easily changed boredom to a little fiesta. A good night, and I was very happily surprised by the friend's performance. I'll leave a couple Pinky photos so you understand what I mean about her bikini rental.
So many beautiful girls out today. I just had to stop and girl watch for awhile and strike up some convo. Botero was packed. Saw those same dudes that ya'll were clowning in that video. Looked like they were with 2 other similar type gringos.
Lots of women out today. I came across something I liked. Pretty face and big beautiful, natural boobs. Very good head game and smashed in several positions. Very playful. Medellin is rockin right now.
Check out Word Travelers list and map for more current and up to date info, I messed up and posted old info.
Thanks! Will definitely hit these up in October (hopefully!
Much love and respect to all, just my personal experience here in Medellin on these topics.
I was able to obtain my EPM in my name before I had my cedula when I purchased my apartment a bit over 3 years ago. Just need to bring in the apartment title papers.
I also was able to have a Bancolombia account 3 years ago without a cedula (passport only) but it took some effort and checking with different branches.
I also have purchased both motorcycles and autos before cedula but needed to get a RUNT number issued first. Still have the car and all is good.
Cable and my Tigo cell phone was a problem so had a trusted friend help me out.
I also had no issues with getting my Colombian combo auto and motorcycle license issued.
Don't need any credit card so that's a non issue.
The Tall Man.My experiences were somewhat similar to yours when I bought my apartment. I too was able to get service from EPM upon proving I had title to the apartment utilizing my Passport. However, EPM will not provide services for those just renting an apartment without a Cedula, versus being a property owner.
Claro is, and were a bunch of assholes and a pain in the ass. I tried to get cable service not having a Cedula, showed them the paperwork for the apartment, along with EPM providing service but they refused and said come back with a Cedula which I obtained within a few weeks so I finally got cable service.
As far as getting a BanColombia account it was very easy, at the time I was a student at EAFIT and the branch allowed students with a Passport to open an account.
The thought of driving a car or having a motorcycle in Medellin, well I have to commend you on that one. As your fully aware, pedestrians are considered road-kill as they do not have the right of way. It's one of the things in Colombia I will never understand. The people can be so formal and polite, including the taxi drivers, yet if your trying to or about to cross the street, you basically don't exist and they will literally run you over.
But I will do her LOL. Shorten up your stories slapshot. They getting too long. You are copying my style. Hey man I am working out hard at the gym. That's how I get the girls cheap in Colombia. The dick, the body, and my playlist. When you leave in September, then I will come down.
Your driving up the market spending 300 mil. I won't be able to afford any talent with the money you are spending. About LEO's. Keep it short with wifey. I miss you, want to see you text. Nothing more. She will text you when she want dick and theres no other option.
Blakman always blessed.It might be of interest to some, myself included as to what you went thru to leave Medellin as far as the arrangements, where you flew to, what did you have to go thru to get a flight out, albeit leaving the Country is the opposite of what everyone wants to do.
As usual king nice girl selection.
Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.
Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Pinky orgasmed and then laid next to us. I had the friend squat over me so I could pound her, then flipped her over, and finished on her back. We all went to bed about an hour later. I got them an Uber, and paid Pinky's rent for the month (300 k). Pinky brought over a gram of tussi (70 k), so all-in-all I paid about 330 k for the bareback threesome, 2 pops, and a free bag. Smirnoff ices consumed makes it a wash.
Pinky had said she was bored, so she invited her friend. I asked he what she'd be doing if she was at home, and she said the same. Playing on her phone. I guess, you mix in a jacuzzi and some free drinks, and you can more easily changed boredom to a little fiesta. A good night, and I was very happily surprised by the friend's performance. I'll leave a couple Pinky photos so you understand what I mean about her bikini rental.
SlapShot10
08-04-20, 15:35
But I will do her LOL. Shorten up your stories slapshot. They getting too long. You are copying my style. Hey man I am working out hard at the gym. That's how I get the girls cheap in Colombia. The dick, the body, and my playlist. When you leave in September, then I will come down.
Your driving up the market spending 300 mil. I won't be able to afford any talent with the money you are spending. About LEO's. Keep it short with wifey. I miss you, want to see you text. Nothing more. She will text you when she want dick and theres no other option.
Blakman always blessed.Who: Seeking Arrangement.
What: Date Night.
When: Monday, August 3, 2020.
Why: Why the fuck not?
Where: Office Desk, Jacuzzi, Bed.
How: Several Ways.
28.100 COP Uber.
60.000 COP Bikini.
That girl looks good, thanks for sharing her. I, for one, like the longer posts and reports, gives me a feel into the encounter.
Who: Seeking Arrangement.
What: Date Night.
When: Monday, August 3, 2020.
Why: Why the fuck not?
Where: Office Desk, Jacuzzi, Bed.
How: Several Ways.
28.100 COP Uber.
60.000 COP Bikini.
Gringo Trooper
08-04-20, 20:10
The thought of driving a car or having a motorcycle in Medellin, well I have to commend you on that one. As your fully aware, pedestrians are considered road-kill as they do not have the right of way. It's one of the things in Colombia I will never understand. The people can be so formal and polite, including the taxi drivers, yet if your trying to or about to cross the street, you basically don't exist and they will literally run you over.Agreed. I rented a car in MDE once (1st and last time) and driving from poblado to centro was enough of a clusterF for me to give that idea up. Driving the car back to the rental store, I saw a truck wipe a motorcyclist off his bike and just keep on driving.
Also, the only time I went to one of MDE's big hospitals I noticed a lot of their patients are injuries from riding motorcycles.
I did also rent a car once to drive from São Paulo to Minas Gerais and just prayed the whole time that I would survive the drive. In all fairness, I shouldn't have rented a manual. A bus ended up rear ending me on the trip also, so yeah I'll be using Uber and taxis in SA for the foreseeable future.
What's up guys. Just curious if its difficult and / or frustrating getting girls off these sites? Seen a couple posts that make it sound like a major pain in the ass. IE disconnected numbers, fake pics / profiles, no shows. Any words of advice? I prefer P2P. I'm not trying to make friends on Facebook or play games on SA.
What's up guys. Just curious if its difficult and / or frustrating getting girls off these sites? Seen a couple posts that make it sound like a major pain in the ass. IE disconnected numbers, fake pics / profiles, no shows. Any words of advice? I prefer P2P. I'm not trying to make friends on Facebook or play games on SA.They are all P2P. The main difference probably is that FB and SA are outcalls and easier to get GFE while the sites you mentioned are more incalls than outcalls with a fixed time length.
I have a two word response to explain why I think you and Surfer are unfairly exaggerating the danger and complexity of driving in Colombia: Dominican Republic.
Any of you who have visited the country, especially those of you who may have driven there know exactly what I'm referring to.
Agreed. I rented a car in MDE once (1st and last time) and driving from poblado to centro was enough of a clusterF for me to give that idea up. Driving the car back to the rental store, I saw a truck wipe a motorcyclist off his bike and just keep on driving.
Also, the only time I went to one of MDE's big hospitals I noticed a lot of their patients are injuries from riding motorcycles.
I did also rent a car once to drive from So Paulo to Minas Gerais and just prayed the whole time that I would survive the drive. In all fairness, I shouldn't have rented a manual. A bus ended up rear ending me on the trip also, so yeah I'll be using Uber and taxis in SA for the foreseeable future.
What's up guys. Just curious if its difficult and / or frustrating getting girls off these sites? Seen a couple posts that make it sound like a major pain in the ass. IE disconnected numbers, fake pics / profiles, no shows. Any words of advice? I prefer P2P. I'm not trying to make friends on Facebook or play games on SA.I used websites like those more frequently during my earliest trips to Medellin until I built up my list of FB amigas. The ones on photoprepagos are generally accurate, although girls like to use soft filters and their most flattering angles. I checked again and one of the girls I tried was still on the site (https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/una-chica-excitante-con-un-rico-cuerpo-y-cola-grande-id-h3ap4) I can attest she looks exactly like her photo and does BBBJ as advertised. If you don't want to do any legwork than using escort sites are a viable option, with some caveats. For one, don't expect GFE. Secondly many are incall only so you'll have to go through the trouble of getting a prepaid SIM card during your stay in Medellin and taking an Uber to some mysterious address that could be in a dodgy neighborhood.
I've had two mildly bad experiences. I chatted with this one big-titted puta on Whatsapp and she sent this overly long pre-formatted block of text with something like 20 bullet points that just rambled on about how she's more than just an escort and was offering pictures and an "experience" and blah blah blah. I grew impatient and asked if she'd come to my address at noon. She agreed. At 11 am I texted her again to make sure she was coming and then she said no because I hadn't "confirmed" my appointment with her. And how was I supposed to do that? Well apparently I had to first buy her packet of pictures for 70 mil and only then would she agree to meet. I laughed in her face and told her to take a hike. I later googled her number and apparently she had been trying to run this scam for awhile.
The other was a girl I had booked late afternoon. There was traffic and I had trouble getting an Uber so I was 10 minutes past due by the time I arrived at the address. I texted the girl asking for her apartment number and that's when she said we're not going to meet because I didn't check in with her an hour before. At no point beforehand did she ever say that step was necessary and anyway I had made the appointment earlier that same day. Thanks for wasting my time!
They are all P2P. The main difference probably is that FB and SA are outcalls and easier to get GFE while the sites you mentioned are more incalls than outcalls with a fixed time length.I set up a FB account and have been adding female "friends" in Medellin. How do I go about asking their rates, services and availability. It seems like some are def escorts, but some of those same ones have photos of their kids on their page LOL. Can I just come right out and ask them or what? Thanks in advance for your help.
SlapShot10
08-05-20, 18:01
...but how about this new bikini I gave to Pinky, last night?
The recent sex goddess freebie has been trying to call things off, but it really feels like she's just trying to get me to profess my love or commit to something. One minute she'll be telling me she loves the sex and spending time with me, the next it's that we can't see each other because she doesn't want to get attached to some one that is unavailable, then it's that she's moving close to me in Poblado. Interestingly enough, she said her ex is a gringo and has a place in Poblado. She will be living there, because it will save her some time in the morning before work, a few days a week. Hmmm. I'll definitely bang her almost any time she wants, but the honeymoon might be over. She is truly seeking an arrangement. Unfortunately, it's not one I'm interested in.
AdventureSeekr
08-05-20, 18:15
...but how about this new bikini I gave to Pinky, last night?
Very very similar body to my favorite chica Aleja. Not being in Medellin isn't too big of a deal for me like some other BM's but Pinky is fine af and makes me want to be there.
I have a two word response to explain why I think you and Surfer are unfairly exaggerating the danger and complexity of driving in Colombia: Dominican Republic.
Any of you who have visited the country, especially those of you who may have driven there know exactly what I'm referring to.Ah yes. The Dominican Republic, where brakes are optional, but a working horn is mandatory.
I set up a FB account and have been adding female "friends" in Medellin. How do I go about asking their rates, services and availability. It seems like some are def escorts, but some of those same ones have photos of their kids on their page LOL. Can I just come right out and ask them or what? Thanks in advance for your help.Just say you're visiting Medellin in the future and would like to meet. If they respond in the affirmative, particularly with kissing emojis or saying "amor", then congrats, you've struck prepago gold. If they act coy and ask what do you mean then you've got one of two options. You can just be direct and say you want to exchange money for sex, although you run the risk of them getting offended. ("Do I look like a puta?" one indignant girl demanded after I tried the blunt approach. Needless to say that attempt was a failure.) But at least it eliminates uncertainty and you can negotiate services and prices beforehand.
The other option which some guys on these boards prefer is to treat it like you're asking them out on a date. Make small talk, get to know them better, then invite them over to your rental, maybe mention sharing a bottle of wine or some mary jane if that's what you're into. Then when you're together work your charm and your way into her pants. On one hand, you have a higher chance of meeting non-pros, getting GFE, and not having to pay much or anything at all with this method. On the other, you run the risk of striking out, she refusing to do a particular act you want, or her demanding money anyway.
I set up a FB account and have been adding female "friends" in Medellin. How do I go about asking their rates, services and availability. It seems like some are def escorts, but some of those same ones have photos of their kids on their page LOL. Can I just come right out and ask them or what? Thanks in advance for your help.At this point there's no reason to talk to them at all. Just add them and forget about them. When you're 10 days away from your trip, start messaging them. It's quite easy.
"Hola".
"Como estás?
"Estaré en Medellin proxima semana y quiero verte."
"Hello. How are you? I will be in Medellin next week and I want to see you."
Unless she responds with "No soy prepago", you can start talking price and service.
It is a place where car horns have to be replaced when they wear out. I have never seen that anywhere before or since.
Ah yes. The Dominican Republic, where brakes are optional, but a working horn is mandatory.
I have a two word response to explain why I think you and Surfer are unfairly exaggerating the danger and complexity of driving in Colombia: Dominican Republic.
Any of you who have visited the country, especially those of you who may have driven there know exactly what I'm referring to.Interesting you chose the DR versus say New Delhi, India.
Actually, my post was about how dangerous it is as a pedestrian walking in Medellin, versus the complexity of driving in the City.
And as far as the Dominican Republic, I have no problem driving there at all, and always rent a car, yet it's out of necessity, as public transport is limited there, and I have driven pretty much all over the entire eastern part of the Country, albeit I always stayed clear of Santo Domingo except to pass thru, and didn't drive at night there. As far as Medellin, the public transport system is excellent if you avoid rush hour, taxis are plentiful, there's UBER and others, and dirt cheap, so for me personally no need for a car.
Ah yes. The Dominican Republic, where brakes are optional, but a working horn is mandatory.Actually the hardest part of driving in the DR is all the Moto-concho's that appear out of nowhere while your driving that you have to watch out for. And they are so stupid there not wearing helmets holding babies in their arms. I've never been to another Country where people on motorcycles where not wearing a helmet.
Just wondering if Pinky will ever again broadcast? I added her when you first mentioned her name and then read that she stopped for fear of being recognized, think she'll ever try again?
SpiderRider
08-06-20, 01:39
People are people and they have many strange ideas about Americans and many Colombians and Venezuelans have a deep rooted hatred for Americans, trust me I found this out the hard way. Many of these working girls have shown me that they are just as opportunistic as people growing up in the Ghettos of America. I grew up in the Ghettos of america and I know what it is like to live hand to mouth. Many have confided in me and told me, that they all think gringos are stupid, rich, and wasteful with money. I can easily see why they think that after spending 3 years here mongering.
As a business man, I have worked in the same profession for the past 27 years, 22 of those years, I built my career and over the last 5 years, I have been at the top of my professional career. I have owned my own businesses since 2013 and I know how business works and numbers work. I came to Medellin for a Medical procedure and every penny that I have spent since I have been here will be added to that medical expense, so this all works in my favor. No matter what I spend here in Medellin, it will be contributed to my medical expense and it will probably get me my biggest income tax return ever. While living here in Medellin, I have ways to receive payment for services without it ever affecting my business numbers, so as far as income; it appears that I stopped working back in March. I have an accountant to help me with things like this. So if Colombia wants me to pay income tax on the money I earned up until March, no problem.
I am still amazed that many people act as though the world has not changed since the quarantine, it has and those of us who were ready are truly capitalizing by working from home. I work for myself from home so no one tracks my income, because I can have payments re-routed to other accounts that have nothing to do with my business or me. It has always been the American way, it has never been about how much income you make in America, it has always been about how much income they can prove you made in America. As far as Colombia goes, it looks like I only spend money in Colombia, it does not look like I earn a penny when I am here. As far as the Colombian government is concerned, I am here to have my teeth fixed and that is my original reason for coming to Colombia in March. As a good faith gesture to show many who know me from Park Botero, I want them to see, that all Americans are not here to mistreat chicas who work the streets and even when we leave and return to America it does not mean we will make every chic that we have banged suffer until we return again. I have always been the kind of guy to treat people the way that they treat me. Pollo Negro is out!A quick way to lose respect of Colombians is to throw money around liberally on people unrelated to you. Its my understanding and experience that in this culture money is exclusively for family or occasionally for the absolute closest of Family friends with a long history. Being tight fisted will gain respect for you. Throwing money around, you look like a damned fool and a joke. I find a way to interject economic hardship into every dialogue and interaction.
Working remotely. Dollars in, pesos out. This has been a colossal and difficult transition for me, but I'm glad I got started 5 years ago, its paying off now.
At this point there's no reason to talk to them at all. Just add them and forget about them. When you're 10 days away from your trip, start messaging them. It's quite easy.
"Hola".
"Como ests?
"Estar en Medellin proxima semana y quiero verte."
"Hello. How are you? I will be in Medellin next week and I want to see you."
Unless she responds with "No soy prepago", you can start talking price and service.How about when he starts talking service with one he's interested in and he say's, "quiero penetrarte sin condon."
Do you know what words Colombians use for "barebacking" or "raw" besides "sexo sin condon". They didn't teach this at EAFIT when I attended.
SpiderRider
08-06-20, 01:47
...but how about this new bikini I gave to Pinky, last night?
The recent sex goddess freebie has been trying to call things off, but it really feels like she's just trying to get me to profess my love or commit to something. One minute she'll be telling me she loves the sex and spending time with me, the next it's that we can't see each other because she doesn't want to get attached to some one that is unavailable, then it's that she's moving close to me in Poblado. Interestingly enough, she said her ex is a gringo and has a place in Poblado. She will be living there, because it will save her some time in the morning before work, a few days a week. Hmmm. I'll definitely bang her almost any time she wants, but the honeymoon might be over. She is truly seeking an arrangement. Unfortunately, it's not one I'm interested in.PM to me her contact, I'm SA.
Mr Enternational
08-06-20, 02:08
Actually the hardest part of driving in the DR is all the Moto-concho's that appear out of nowhere while your driving that you have to watch out for. And they are so stupid there not wearing helmets holding babies in their arms. I've never been to another Country where people on motorcycles where not wearing a helmet.Never? But I met you in Thailand where mfs ride around with the helmet in their hand instead of on their head. And by chance they do put it on their head, they don't buckle it on.
PolloNegro
08-06-20, 02:27
A quick way to lose respect of Colombians is to throw money around liberally on people unrelated to you. Its my understanding and experience that in this culture money is exclusively for family or occasionally for the absolute closest of Family friends with a long history. Being tight fisted will gain respect for you. Throwing money around, you look like a damned fool and a joke. I find a way to interject economic hardship into every dialogue and interaction.
Working remotely. Dollars in, pesos out. This has been a colossal and difficult transition for me, but I'm glad I got started 5 years ago, its paying off now.I have really made a ton of money since arriving here in Medellin. If $5800 in a period of 6 months, is more than you can handle, you shouldn't be mongering. When you have been living with a chic for 4 months, and you haven't given her more than a Million Pesos, the swap isn't that bad at all. I keep telling you and others, the worst thing you can do is tell another BM how to spend his money. If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't do it, but to have access to Medellin for a full year and no longer have to travel with luggage is a benefit itself. I was never here looking for respect, I came to bang chics and make my experience hassle free! Pollo Negro is out!
SpiderRider
08-06-20, 02:41
Actually the hardest part of driving in the DR is all the Moto-concho's that appear out of nowhere while your driving that you have to watch out for. And they are so stupid there not wearing helmets holding babies in their arms. I've never been to another Country where people on motorcycles where not wearing a helmet.In Colorado, there is no helmet law. I've watched people ride there without helmets for decades. In China watched riders with holding babies almost every day.
Gringo Trooper
08-06-20, 02:48
Actually the hardest part of driving in the DR is all the Moto-concho's that appear out of nowhere while your driving that you have to watch out for. And they are so stupid there not wearing helmets holding babies in their arms. I've never been to another Country where people on motorcycles where not wearing a helmet.All valid points regarding the DR. I used taxis when I was in the DR, and I can attest that the driving in Santo Domingo was quite erratic. I also noticed potholes in the DR, that were large enough to the point that if a car went over it, the car legit might get stuck / wrecked. My taxi driver and I just would drive around drinking ice cold Presidente and try to pick up chicas.
Obviously, people here have success with driving in MDE, as many contributors have shared that they travel with their own car and motorcycle and they do so safely. I feel like if I lived in MDE for a long period of time, knew the roads, understood the driving climate / culture, I could eventually adapt and start driving.
I did notice that expat on YouTube who has his AirBnB business, does GoPro videos of him riding his bicycle through Bogota, and I believe he has been living in Colombia for over a decade.
Thank you Talon and Jbee62! Great information! LOL'ed at "struck prepago gold".
I was looking at SA. Is the membership worth it?
Just say you're visiting Medellin in the future and would like to meet. If they respond in the affirmative, particularly with kissing emojis or saying "amor", then congrats, you've struck prepago gold. If they act coy and ask what do you mean then you've got one of two options. You can just be direct and say you want to exchange money for sex, although you run the risk of them getting offended. ("Do I look like a puta?" one indignant girl demanded after I tried the blunt approach. Needless to say that attempt was a failure.) But at least it eliminates uncertainty and you can negotiate services and prices beforehand.
The other option which some guys on these boards prefer is to treat it like you're asking them out on a date. Make small talk, get to know them better, then invite them over to your rental, maybe mention sharing a bottle of wine or some mary jane if that's what you're into. Then when you're together work your charm and your way into her pants. On one hand, you have a higher chance of meeting non-pros, getting GFE, and not having to pay much or anything at all with this method. On the other, you run the risk of striking out, she refusing to do a particular act you want, or her demanding money anyway.
Several US stayed have no helmet law. Ohio is another and Connecticut did for some time. The DR has a helmet law but like many other laws it is not uniformly enforced. Motorcycles are involved in most accidents.
In Colorado, there is no helmet law. I've watched people ride there without helmets for decades. In China watched riders with holding babies almost every day.
....... Throwing money around, you look like a damned fool and a joke...............Or a cartel member.
It is a place where car horns have to be replaced when they wear out. I have never seen that anywhere before or since.In Kolkata there are establishments devoted entirely to the repairing of car horns. You have to be strong minded not to go mad on the roads in that city.
I never tried driving in India and I really hated being a passenger, even in the countryside. The congestion and on the fly traffic rules are exhausting.
In Kolkata there are establishments devoted entirely to the repairing of car horns. You have to be strong minded not to go mad on the roads in that city.
Black Page
08-06-20, 15:58
In Kolkata there are establishments devoted entirely to the repairing of car horns. You have to be strong minded not to go mad on the roads in that city.India is one-of-a-kind country for many reasons, but what hit most my attention and caused me most dismay (ok, besides street poor people) was the way they drive and the road traffic.
I had drivers taking me from New Delhi to Agra, and also around Kerala some 15 years ago. Then I understood why an European driving license is not valid there (really?), but tourists need to hire local drivers. I don't mind aggressive way to drive and pass, but that was TERRIFIC. It's a whole huge madhouse. What was incredible was the CONTINUOUS background strong noise of horns. Everyone horns, continuously, while driving along the road. Imagine dozens of horns playing intermittently, simultaneously, continuously, all around you while you drive along a road.
Why? Because before passing a car, or just approaching from back, one MUST horn to signal his presence. I miss the usefulness of all that horning, when everyone is horning all the time all together. How can you understand WHO is horning? And why? Who among all horners is approaching or wants to call attention?
My dismay for all such chaos reached the peak, when I saw at the back of a truck the big label warning cars approaching from back: "PLEASE HORN". Unbelievable.
PolloNegro
08-06-20, 16:00
Or a cartel member.So a BM cannot have $3800 usd for years rent and $2000 usd for furniture, without being a Cartel Member? Wow! Pollo Negro Is Out!
Never? But I met you in Thailand where mfs ride around with the helmet in their hand instead of on their head. And by chance they do put it on their head, they don't buckle it on.Your right Mr. E, everybody had helmets, albeit more for show versus wearing them whereas in the DR they don't even have them.
SlapShot10
08-06-20, 16:31
Just wondering if Pinky will ever again broadcast? I added her when you first mentioned her name and then read that she stopped for fear of being recognized, think she'll ever try again?She said she broadcast a couple times, since, but under a different name. I know she also blocks Colombia. I don't think she'll be doing it, regularly, and I don't know the new account name.
Why? Because before passing a car, or just approaching from back, one MUST horn to signal his presence. I miss the usefulness of all that horning, when everyone is horning all the time all together. How can you understand WHO is horning? And why? Who among all horners is approaching or wants to call attention?
My dismay for all such chaos reached the peak, when I saw at the back of a truck the big label warning cars approaching from back: "PLEASE HORN". Unbelievable.A very horny society to say the least, and when I was there I recall exactly what your describing as it was weird, but lot's of things in India are weird.
Mid May I reported on my admiration and quite frankly my jealousy of those punters operating in Columbia. For awhile, the only action on the board! Albeit, some regions have started to emerge from hibernation, there are still legions of us stuck at home with no hope of international travel until at least 2021.
Still living vicariously through you. Keep the reports coming and post more pics. I'm sure it's a burden, but remember, you're fucking for all of us at the moment LOL.
Stirling (Columbia hopeful 2021).
Black Page
08-06-20, 17:58
Stirling (Columbia hopeful 2021).If you mean you hope to travel to Washington DC in 2021, then you're off topic here :-D
ColombiaLover
08-06-20, 21:18
The one thing about living in Medellin or visiting often is that you meet a lot of people, some of them whom become friends. It has been 15 years of visiting for me. I met Andrea 5 years ago. I have sessioned with her several times in the past. She is a flaca. Good BBBJ. Love to receive oral (which is like to give). She has a nice, tight ass. Never did anal with her, but if you are into it, ask her about it. I imagine it would be good. Nice personality. She's hurting for cash, like most of them, because her clients cannot visit. If anyone on the ground is looking for a change of pace, talk to her and see if the can give you want you want at a price you want. I have already explained to her that prices have come down because of so much supply and so little demand and she seems to get it. I am just doing this as a favor to a friend.
https://www.facebook.com/andryy.gallego
If you mean you hope to travel to Washington DC in 2021, then you're off topic here :-DI stand corrected. Looking forward to Colombia 2021.
Mr Enternational
08-07-20, 03:28
The one thing about living in Medellin or visiting often is that you meet a lot of people, some of them whom become friends. It has been 15 years of visiting for me. I met Andrea 5 years ago. I have sessioned with her several times in the past.Then all of a sudden one day you realize the chick has gotten to old or too fat or too something for you to be fucking her. But I guess she is still your friend.
Just 5 months ago I was fucking this chick that was so damn fine to me. She went to her city and came back 2 weeks ago and now I would not touch her with a barge pole. And she keeps hitting me up wanting to make some money. The other day she told me I should hurry and see her because she will go back home soon. I told her to have a good trip. I have looked at plenty a chick later on and thought, what if I would have married her. I would have been fucked up in the game by purchasing that lemon.
I was looking at SA. Is the membership worth it?It is worth it for me but you can wait until before your trip to start. I think if this is your first time and if you don't stay too long, you will be too busy to use it. You can also search this thread for JB's posts containing the word "siempre". He has many good advices.
Is sabaneta too far of a haul for chicas? Is it a recommended area to monger. I wanted to give it a go for a month. How are taxi for chicas getting back or metro to the barrios. Chime anyone available.
ColombiaLover
08-07-20, 04:36
I understand there are some nice areas in Sabaneta with good prices. But it is FAR away, especially in certain parts of the Sabaneta. So many of the P4 P girls come from Bello and Popular. Both of which are on the total opposite side of Sabaneta. The time and cost for transporting them is going to be long and high, relatively speaking.
Depending on what style of living you are accustomed to (or can tolerate), I recommend Laurles / Estadio. Still very nice and much closer to the chicas in all of the barrios. Belen could be another possibility, but that's a little further away from the hot spots than Laureles / Estadio.
If you can live in a "less fancy" barrio, there is always parts of Robledo, Aranjuez, Campo Valdes. I think Pollo just move to Campo Valdes, so he can probably give you some ideas.
Is sabaneta too far of a haul for chicas? Is it a recommended area to monger. I wanted to give it a go for a month. How are taxi for chicas getting back or metro to the barrios. Chime anyone available.
Thank you for the reply, I'll keep checking her original for now and if you happen to get her new user name, my PM's are open LOL.
She said she broadcast a couple times, since, but under a different name. I know she also blocks Colombia. I don't think she'll be doing it, regularly, and I don't know the new account name.
She is amazing, I sent a friend request, we'll see how it goes. To clarify, I am not there but as a Canadian, hoping for tourist status for November, with out quarantine.
The one thing about living in Medellin or visiting often is that you meet a lot of people, some of them whom become friends. It has been 15 years of visiting for me. I met Andrea 5 years ago. I have sessioned with her several times in the past. She is a flaca. Good BBBJ. Love to receive oral (which is like to give). She has a nice, tight ass. Never did anal with her, but if you are into it, ask her about it. I imagine it would be good. Nice personality. She's hurting for cash, like most of them, because her clients cannot visit. If anyone on the ground is looking for a change of pace, talk to her and see if the can give you want you want at a price you want. I have already explained to her that prices have come down because of so much supply and so little demand and she seems to get it. I am just doing this as a favor to a friend.
https://www.facebook.com/andryy.gallego
Not sure if this should be in the hotel thread or here (most popular thread), But searched both threads and still had questions. The Hotel Premier Plaza, really close to 52 why 52, with the balcony. I see the price went from 16 k / 1-2 hours to 17 K / 1-2 hours, hot water / clean / checks ID closely. My question and ask is what is the all day / weekly / monthly rate? Also if any fees when bringing multiple girls a day / week / month? Probably need a 2-5 k tip to the front desk staff each day or week or girl but looking for clarification as to what exactly to expect if I stay there as a "long term tenant".
My thinking right now is that for somewhere around 50-60 k?? A night I can use it as a home base when in Centro. Don't see a gem in the morning, go have a shower and a nap, find a 16:00 girl and bring her here, see a 18:00 gem, bring here here. Have too many beers / rums close by, sleep there. Hell, have an 08:00, 13:00. 16:00 and a 21:00 or just sit on the balcony and go fishing.
My budget for my trip just expanded a bit and having a centro place (for fun) and a Laurales AirBnB (for relaxing or a FB chicka) is doable.
Thoughts, advise, criticisms?
Elvis 2008
08-07-20, 07:52
I was looking at SA. Is the membership worth it?It depends on what you want. Is the quality of the sex the only thing important to you? The reason I got into the sugar baby thing in the USA was when I found the company of a hooker I liked, I was annoyed having to pay exorbitant rates just to hang out with her. I didn't mind paying for sex but paying for dinner was stupid to me. The SB route opened me up to the hottest women, great sex, and to be honest, a cheaper overall experience money wise.
As for Colombia with regards to sex, unless you are dying to go bareback, I see no reason to pay for SA. The best fucks I have had have been in the Santa Fe region and I paid very little. I have also gotten great sex and companionship from the women in Medellin for very little in the past. Granted, some of the experiences there are lame, but when you can pay $10 or $20 to get laid, you can try a lot of flavors.
Thing with SA is if you want a regular girl. One of my sugar babies is a teacher, and she texts me every day and begs me to do video chats with her even if we have little to talk about. Her face lights up when she sees me. She sends me so many videos of her masturbating that I have had to ask her to slow it down. Technique wise, she may not be as good as the women on Santa Fe, but she cares way more about pleasing me than they do.
Another one of mine is a student in Medellin. She has a unique philosophy. Her father has money, and she has done all she can to never ask me for money even when I have offered. She wants to prove that she is not in it for that. She also knows that I am not just going to give up my monogamy. We men are just supposed to do that because a woman wants us to despite the fact that IMO it is a big sacrifice. She told me that she is going to fuck me so good and so often that I will not look at another woman and when we have been together, that has been the case. That is a far cry from the usual woman claiming victim status when a man runs around on her.
A lot of guys swear if a woman is on SA they are working girls just out for money. In my case, I have one woman who never asks for it and another who rarely does. With both of them, I have met members of their families.
I have resisted the boyfriend, girlfriend moniker with both of them though I am sure they would say that is who I am if asked by a stranger.
So really the only reason to do SA is if you want a more intimate relationship, a sugar baby or GF. Otherwise, I would not bother. You can use SA as an escort site, and I have met women on there, totally out for money, but I would not say that the experience was better than the escorts, and it was more expensive for sure.
Is sabaneta too far of a haul for chicas? Is it a recommended area to monger. I wanted to give it a go for a month. How are taxi for chicas getting back or metro to the barrios. Chime anyone available.It's not too far of a haul for chicas. I stayed in Sabaneta last year. I couldn't pass up the deal. Had my old roommate's 3 bedroom apartment to myself and didn't cost me a single peso. However, it wouldn't have been my choice. A lot of the buildings are in the hills and some of those hills are nasty if you like to do some walking. Taxis were okay getting there, Uber was hit and miss.
If you can find a place close to Plaza Mayorca, that's not up the hill, it could be a good spot. Metro is easily accessible there as are the buses. Always plenty of taxis available too. Might be a good option if you plan on wifing up again. I'd do my homework if you're planning on running 2 girls through each day.
She is amazing, I sent a friend request, we'll see how it goes. To clarify, I am not there but as a Canadian, hoping for tourist status for November, with out quarantine.Can't speak for her service, but she's a nice humble girl to talk to.
Thank goodness life is not this complicated. Get a place where you are comfortable and use short time places as needed (girls you find far from your place or girls you don't want to bring to your place).
Not sure if this should be in the hotel thread or here (most popular thread), But searched both threads and still had questions. The Hotel Premier Plaza, really close to 52 why 52, with the balcony. I see the price went from 16 k / 1-2 hours to 17 K / 1-2 hours, hot water / clean / checks ID closely. My question and ask is what is the all day / weekly / monthly rate? Also if any fees when bringing multiple girls a day / week / month? Probably need a 2-5 k tip to the front desk staff each day or week or girl but looking for clarification as to what exactly to expect if I stay there as a "long term tenant".
My thinking right now is that for somewhere around 50-60 k?? A night I can use it as a home base when in Centro. Don't see a gem in the morning, go have a shower and a nap, find a 16:00 girl and bring her here, see a 18:00 gem, bring here here. Have too many beers / rums close by, sleep there. Hell, have an 08:00, 13:00. 16:00 and a 21:00 or just sit on the balcony and go fishing.
So a BM cannot have $3800 usd for years rent and $2000 usd for furniture, without being a Cartel Member? Wow! Pollo Negro Is Out!Don't be daft, having is not the problem its throwing it around to be noticed that's the issue here.
Not sure if this should be in the hotel thread or here (most popular thread), But searched both threads and still had questions. The Hotel Premier Plaza, really close to 52 why 52, with the balcony. I see the price went from 16 k / 1-2 hours to 17 K / 1-2 hours, hot water / clean / checks ID closely. My question and ask is what is the all day / weekly / monthly rate? Also if any fees when bringing multiple girls a day / week / month? Probably need a 2-5 k tip to the front desk staff each day or week or girl but looking for clarification as to what exactly to expect if I stay there as a "long term tenant".
My thinking right now is that for somewhere around 50-60 k?? A night I can use it as a home base when in Centro. Don't see a gem in the morning, go have a shower and a nap, find a 16:00 girl and bring her here, see a 18:00 gem, bring here here. Have too many beers / rums close by, sleep there. Hell, have an 08:00, 13:00. 16:00 and a 21:00 or just sit on the balcony and go fishing.For longer stays at the Hotel Premium Plaza they will offer you a discount for longer stays but it won't be a published rate but something you will have to negotiate with them and you will be required to pay the entire amount up front. Additionally, you need to carefully choose your room as there is a loud bar on the backside of the building and some of the rooms are quite dark. I used to stay on the top floor in the room facing the walkway, albeit it could get quite bright during the day. The quietest rooms will be in the middle of the building on the top floor.
Another thing you need to make sure of is that there is no joiner fee for bringing multiple girls in during the day as you mentioned. Your going to need to negotiate this with the guy that run's the place, the girls running the front desk won't have the authority to cut a deal for a dis-counted longer stay so it would be best to speak with the guy in person so there is no misunderstanding. And tipping the maids daily will reap tremendous rewards, such as clean dry towels whenever needed. Also it is the safest Love Motel to stay in as it also serves as a kind of police sub-station as the Cops hang out there sometimes and use the Internet.
As far as fishing, well the balcony is well suited for that as every Puta in town walks by directly in front, and you could just sit up there and motion the ones your interested in to come on up. Also, you need to bring your own shower-head for the showers, few of them have them, and also your own toilet seats as least for some of the rooms won't have them.
The nightly rate for a long term rental should easily be below 50 K a night.
The Tall Man
08-07-20, 15:28
The one thing about living in Medellin or visiting often is that you meet a lot of people, some of them whom become friends. It has been 15 years of visiting for me. I met Andrea 5 years ago. I have sessioned with her several times in the past. She is a flaca. Good BBBJ. Love to receive oral (which is like to give). She has a nice, tight ass. Never did anal with her, but if you are into it, ask her about it. I imagine it would be good. Nice personality. She's hurting for cash, like most of them, because her clients cannot visit. If anyone on the ground is looking for a change of pace, talk to her and see if the can give you want you want at a price you want. I have already explained to her that prices have come down because of so much supply and so little demand and she seems to get it. I am just doing this as a favor to a friend.
https://www.facebook.com/andryy.gallegoThanks ColombiaLover, after all sharing is caring, hehehehe she looks like a cutie.
I have never been in such a position, living in Medellin and making lemonade out of a basket full of lemons (the China virus), that is I have my favorites whom I really enjoy being with and who hit me up about every there or 4 days each, then my cupid site where I have about 3 dozen then the Tinder site where I have hundreds of connections, then despite me not having any interest in cultivating FaceBook girls I still get numerous messages each week then finally my good buddies also recommend about a dozen really good fun chicas, what the fuck with all this as I only have one dick.
All this and not to mention when I hit the street and find a few I may want to try, then don't forget about my 18 yo live-in during the quarantine who has been in my apartment full time since the start of the quarantine, yep coming up to 5 months now, she needs not much but some attention too, right!
I have also gotten messages from a handful of chicas who somehow found me and whom I have session-ed with 2 and 3 and even 4 years ago.
What a position to be in but at times it is much like chica overload where I find that I just need a break and retreat into my man cave to just relax without the chicas having any expectations of getting with me.
Oh the insanity of it all.
The Tall Man.
The Tall Man
08-07-20, 15:48
Not sure if this should be in the hotel thread or here (most popular thread), But searched both threads and still had questions. The Hotel Premier Plaza, really close to 52 why 52, with the balcony. I see the price went from 16 k / 1-2 hours to 17 K / 1-2 hours, hot water / clean / checks ID closely. My question and ask is what is the all day / weekly / monthly rate? Also if any fees when bringing multiple girls a day / week / month? Probably need a 2-5 k tip to the front desk staff each day or week or girl but looking for clarification as to what exactly to expect if I stay there as a "long term tenant".
My thinking right now is that for somewhere around 50-60 k?? A night I can use it as a home base when in Centro. Don't see a gem in the morning, go have a shower and a nap, find a 16:00 girl and bring her here, see a 18:00 gem, bring here here. Have too many beers / rums close by, sleep there. Hell, have an 08:00, 13:00. 16:00 and a 21:00 or just sit on the balcony and go fishing.
My budget for my trip just expanded a bit and having a centro place (for fun) and a Laurales AirBnB (for relaxing or a FB chicka) is doable.
Thoughts, advise, criticisms?As I have my go-to hotel in centro (Palmetto CL 54 and cr 53) I did try out the Pre-Plaza a few months back for the first time.
My impressions, very clean and well maintained hotel, I was delightfully surprised, on check-in it took 10 to 12 minutes as they examined both mine and my chicas documents with photos and entering the info into the hotel register, they take this process very serious, I asked about sitting on the balcony and having a drink but was told no as it is off limits as it could appear to be viewed by the police as a sit down restaurant and so they do not want to take the risk of coming into complicity, so the balcony was basically closed.
My impressions is that they are geared to short term 1 -2 hours and get you in and out and then onto the next customer, kind of like sitting down for a meal at a restaurant and after an hour you leave to open the table for the next customer.
I plan to be in Botero next week and will stop and ask about a daily / weekly / monthly rate and if it is even available and also about guests being allowed into the rooms.
One thing I do not like is that the rooms are open at the top (brick latticework) to the interior hallway so don't plan on getting any quality sleep. Over at the Palmetto I sleep like a baby, hehehe.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
PolloNegro
08-07-20, 16:48
Don't be daft, having is not the problem its throwing it around to be noticed that's the issue here.I read the post clearly, and you do not think the people of Medellin do no think every gringo who lives in Poblado is Rich? I think many BMs post non sense without thinking, if you do not think anyone who visits Medellin and stays for 6 months will not spend $6000 usd dollars without being a Narco, then its not being a Daft, it's being judgmental. But Carry On, I know what I am and what I am not! Pollo Negro is Out!
Made a nice casa run yesterday. Chicas seem really thirsty since they know tourists may not be around until next year. Lots of nice pickings around town. Good BBBJ, smashed in multiple positions and shot my load on her face.
As I have my go-to hotel in centro (Palmetto CL 54 and cr 53) I did try out the Pre-Plaza a few months back for the first time.
My impressions, very clean and well maintained hotel, I was delightfully surprised, on check-in it took 10 to 12 minutes as they examined both mine and my chicas documents with photos and entering the info into the hotel register, they take this process very serious, I asked about sitting on the balcony and having a drink but was told no as it is off limits as it could appear to be viewed by the police as a sit down restaurant and so they do not want to take the risk of coming into complicity, so the balcony was basically closed.
My impressions is that they are geared to short term 1 -2 hours and get you in and out and then onto the next customer, kind of like sitting down for a meal at a restaurant and after an hour you leave to open the table for the next customer.
I plan to be in Botero next week and will stop and ask about a daily / weekly / monthly rate and if it is even available and also about guests being allowed into the rooms.
One thing I do not like is that the rooms are open at the top (brick latticework) to the interior hallway so don't plan on getting any quality sleep. Over at the Palmetto I sleep like a baby, hehehe.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.The upper floors are for longer staying guests with the first floor being the short time rooms, and up until a year ago there was no joiner fee for the longer staying guests, however that could of changed, but you will find out when you inquire. And the middle rooms on the top floor, are actually pretty quiet as only the long term renters use them and in the past I never had a noise issue with them. Up until I got my apartment I must of spent over six months staying there so know the place pretty well.
SlapShot10
08-07-20, 20:42
So really the only reason to do SA is if you want a more intimate relationship, a sugar baby or GF. Otherwise, I would not bother. You can use SA as an escort site, and I have met women on there, totally out for money, but I would not say that the experience was better than the escorts, and it was more expensive for sure.
I was looking at SA. Is the membership worth it?My 2 cents on SA:
I pay about $85/month for Premium.
The average FB Union or WhatsApp Mafia chica is 250k for one pop. These are, decent looking girls that despite what many will say, I've never seen any of them in Botero. Can you get them cheaper? Can you find them elsewhere? Sure. I just don't think they're out in Botero every day for 50k then hitting a gringo penthouse for 250 k at night.
Just for argument's sake, let's say you're paying 250k for the girls that think they are higher end.
8x in a month you pay that amount. Other times you are going to casas, Botero, La Isla, whatever.
That's 2.000.000 or $540 USD, which is $67 per visit. Yes, you can find cheaper girls. Yes, you can get more for the same price. I don't have time to breakdown every possible outcome.
For just over the price of one of those short time visits, you can get a membership.
This is my first trip using SA, and I wouldn't recommend it for a 7-10 day trip kind of guy, unless you use it the month prior to your trip.
There are "semi pros" and "non-pros" on SA. I have had probably 7-8 freebies off SA, in addition to Wifey, Pinky, my original live-in, and others that have become repeats. Coin Slot is from SA.
YMMV when it comes to freebies, but if you prefer more than the wham bam thank you ma'am, I'd recommend SA. If I had the desire, I imagine I could have a dinner, drinks, fuck sesh with an SA girl just about nightly. As The Tall Man recently said, sometimes I'd just rather watch a game or get a good night's sleep.
SA is also great for just building contacts. I have probably 200 phone contacts that include "MDE SA" in their info.
So, in short, give it a shot if it's not going to break your bank. I enjoy the hunting and gathering, occasionally. Sometimes, the messaging can be overwhelming, or I'm not in the mood. I always try to take the convo to WhatsApp as soon as possible. I think you get a better sense of the girl through instant chat, emojis, response time, and the ability to send photos / videos.
Some guys might look at it the other way - $85 (315.000 COP) could be used towards 6-7 girls in Botero, or towards a threesome with a couple young Paisas.
I don't spend much time searching, so SA has been great. I ignore it for a couple days, respond to messages, check the likes, search for some noobies, and then transfer whatever I like to WhatsApp.
Oh, and just a quick sidebar. Pinky got a positive result, last night. She came over late July, after a period that was maybe July 20-25 range, then she came over this past weekend. She says she hasn't been with anyone else, which I highly-doubt. Not sure why she'd take a test without missing a period, but she said because her stomach hurt and she had a different odor. I am very confident I didn't make a known mistake, but shit happens. We only banged once each of the last two times she was here. We chatted and she agreed to take another test this weekend. So, hoping for the best. If anyone has any info / experience with this in Medellin, not in general, please feel free to PM me. She is not from Medellin, so I'd imagine the likelihood of her being open to exploring all of her options might be a bit higher than normal. Also, since I have recently bought her a phone and paid her rent, maybe she'd be a bit more submissive, which is her nature.
Cheers.
I did say few months back wifey was going to get pregnant.
Who knew it was going to be a different wifey laughing out loud. Slapshot if I saw this coming. Why couldn't you?
My 2 cents on SA:
I pay about $85/month for Premium.
The average FB Union or WhatsApp Mafia chica is 250k for one pop. These are, decent looking girls that despite what many will say, I've never seen any of them in Botero. Can you get them cheaper? Can you find them elsewhere? Sure. I just don't think they're out in Botero every day for 50k then hitting a gringo penthouse for 250 k at night.
Just for argument's sake, let's say you're paying 250k for the girls that think they are higher end.
8x in a month you pay that amount. Other times you are going to casas, Botero, La Isla, whatever.
That's 2.000.000 or $540 USD, which is $67 per visit. Yes, you can find cheaper girls. Yes, you can get more for the same price. I don't have time to breakdown every possible outcome.
For just over the price of one of those short time visits, you can get a membership.
This is my first trip using SA, and I wouldn't recommend it for a 7-10 day trip kind of guy, unless you use it the month prior to your trip.
There are "semi pros" and "non-pros" on SA. I have had probably 7-8 freebies off SA, in addition to Wifey, Pinky, my original live-in, and others that have become repeats. Coin Slot is from SA.
YMMV when it comes to freebies, but if you prefer more than the wham bam thank you ma'am, I'd recommend SA. If I had the desire, I imagine I could have a dinner, drinks, fuck sesh with an SA girl just about nightly. As The Tall Man recently said, sometimes I'd just rather watch a game or get a good night's sleep.
SA is also great for just building contacts. I have probably 200 phone contacts that include "MDE SA" in their info.
So, in short, give it a shot if it's not going to break your bank. I enjoy the hunting and gathering, occasionally. Sometimes, the messaging can be overwhelming, or I'm not in the mood. I always try to take the convo to WhatsApp as soon as possible. I think you get a better sense of the girl through instant chat, emojis, response time, and the ability to send photos / videos.
Some guys might look at it the other way - $85 (315.000 COP) could be used towards 6-7 girls in Botero, or towards a threesome with a couple young Paisas.
I don't spend much time searching, so SA has been great. I ignore it for a couple days, respond to messages, check the likes, search for some noobies, and then transfer whatever I like to WhatsApp.
Oh, and just a quick sidebar. Pinky got a positive result, last night. She came over late July, after a period that was maybe July 20-25 range, then she came over this past weekend. She says she hasn't been with anyone else, which I highly-doubt. Not sure why she'd take a test without missing a period, but she said because her stomach hurt and she had a different odor. I am very confident I didn't make a known mistake, but shit happens. We only banged once each of the last two times she was here. We chatted and she agreed to take another test this weekend. So, hoping for the best. If anyone has any info / experience with this in Medellin, not in general, please feel free to PM me. She is not from Medellin, so I'd imagine the likelihood of her being open to exploring all of her options might be a bit higher than normal. Also, since I have recently bought her a phone and paid her rent, maybe she'd be a bit more submissive, which is her nature.
Cheers..
I did say few months back wifey was going to get pregnant.
Who knew it was going to be a different wifey laughing out loud. Slapshot if I saw this coming. Why couldn't you?
.I think we all have been wondering when will Slapshot junior arrive?
SlapShot10
08-07-20, 22:10
I did say few months back wifey was going to get pregnant.
Who knew it was going to be a different wifey laughing out loud. Slapshot if I saw this coming. Why couldn't you?
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I think we all have been wondering when will Slapshot junior arrive?Very constructive, fellas, much appreciated! LOL.
SnapShot10 - coming to a barrio near you.
I'm hoping this is a ploy for money, or a false-positive, of course. I genuinely don't think she'd try to extort me, but who knows. The photo she sent doesn't look like the photos online! Much more faint coloring. Maybe the test is old, and has been sitting in a D1 for 5 years. I'm going to start having Plan be pills in with the M&M's in my Blakman Welcome Kit.
PolloNegro
08-07-20, 22:10
If you are considering to stay in El Centro, you can stay at Hotel Botero the first day. It is also right next to the airport bus stop. I think the price might be lower and it is a real hotel. It allows guests with no fee as long as they have IDs. You can do some sightseeing, casas during daytime, and bars at night as they are all in walking distance.
Just keep in mind, some of the places in El Centro are pretty dirty. It takes getting used to.Hotel Botero is no more, its a done deal & completely empty. Pollo negro is out!
Someone in the country needs to show mongering gringos that good girls not in centro can be had at 150 k or less LOL. Please slapshot can I be the godfather of little Julio lmao. Please. No thanks to.
M&m, but I accept being Julio godfather
Very constructive, fellas, much appreciated! LOL.
SnapShot10 - coming to a barrio near you.
I'm hoping this is a ploy for money, or a false-positive, of course. I genuinely don't think she'd try to extort me, but who knows. The photo she sent doesn't look like the photos online! Much more faint coloring. Maybe the test is old, and has been sitting in a D1 for 5 years. I'm going to start having Plan be pills in with the M&M's in my Blakman Welcome Kit..
Bachelor of the year abandoned by wifey, accused of being baby daddy by chaturbate pornstar. This more interesting than covid 19. What a soap opera LOL. Slapshot I think you need a snicker bar.
Someone in the country needs to show mongering gringos that good girls not in centro can be had at 150 k or less LOL. Please slapshot can I be the godfather of little Julio lmao. Please. No thanks to.
M&m, but I accept being Julio godfather
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Cheers!
Someone in the country needs to show mongering gringos that good girls not in centro can be had at 150 k or less LOL. Please slapshot can I be the godfather of little Julio lmao. Please. No thanks to.
M&m, but I accept being Julio godfather
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SlapShot10
08-07-20, 23:21
Bachelor of the year abandoned by wifey, accused of being baby daddy by chaturbate pornstar. This more interesting than covid 19. What a soap opera LOL. Slapshot I think you need a snicker bar.
.2020 in a nutshell.
PolloNegro
08-08-20, 01:59
I have no idea of how you would misconstrue that I was close Campo Valdes, I am much closer to poblado as I looked at Campo Valdes and the address to where my new apartment is located. I have no idea how a monger would put themselves on a certain pedestal about WGs when we are located in the same city and have access to the same women.
The only difference is the verbiage used on line to make others think that there is a real difference, there is no difference. Girls in Centro have no problem telling me and anyone willing to listen that they frequently go to Poblado at night to earn $300,000 pesos per date. You all have to stop making Medellin out to be a different place based on where you live? It is not, it is still Medellin. I love Centro, my dentist is in Poblado, so you think he won't take my money because I don't live in Poblado, you guys must stop with fancy foolishness that you type on line.
If you choose to pay $300,000 pesos per date, I salute you. If you choose to pay $1500 usd monthly for rent, I salute you. I thank the Almighty that I do not have to pay that and I do have to stay in Poblado or Laureles to feel safe. The more you guys isolate yourself to certain areas tell anyone with a brain about your concept of others. If you are afraid for your safety say that, if you are trying to impress girls from Centro who put on fancy outfits to travel to Poblado say that. Many of you all are paying extra do to being lazy and not wanting to travel and actually do leg work, you should also say that.
Too many of you BMs are judgmental about other BMs and your replies show. I know what guys are paying for rent, I have been all over the city looking for apartments before I found the Apartment I have. You'll take a post personal and call another BM a Cartel Member and salute another BM, when you know that BM is paying through the nose. You should stop being so obvious about your hate toward certain BMs simply because you are not here and have no idea what each BMs financial situation is and then trying to shade behind fancy words, like daft. I am neither absurd nor foolish, regardless of what you may take from my posts.
The girls are plentiful and snatch is at an all-time low due the country being closed and mongers being so few. In the future if you don't like what another BM posts, keep it moving and don't take it personal. It is so much snatch floating around Medellin that other BMs are trying to help girls who cannot get enough dates to make ends meet. As always, I am still banging girls at will and having a blast in and around Centro, why go anywhere else when the girls are just standing around begging you to take one for a rump. Much respect and as always, Pollo Negro is out!
ColombiaLover
08-08-20, 02:29
You got it right, Blakman. I would not have paid 250 K to any facebook girl under normal circumstances and most certainly not now. When they should be happy to get anything close to 150. I understand from some of my contacts that the FB girls who communicate are trying to hold fast at 250 or 225, but I just can't see how that's going to work unless there are an awful lot of stupid gringos who are going to return soon to pay that. These FB girls poo-poo other girls, suggesting that because they accept less, they are "beneath" them. But I counter that there are new girls turning 18 ever day and a lot of them are not only younger, but just as hot or hotter than they are.
Cheers!
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My 2 cents on SA:
I pay about $85/month for Premium.
The average FB Union or WhatsApp Mafia chica is 250k for one pop. These are, decent looking girls that despite what many will say, I've never seen any of them in Botero. Can you get them cheaper? Can you find them elsewhere? Sure. I just don't think they're out in Botero every day for 50k then hitting a gringo penthouse for 250 k at night.
Just for argument's sake, let's say you're paying 250k for the girls that think they are higher end.
8x in a month you pay that amount. Other times you are going to casas, Botero, La Isla, whatever.
That's 2.000.000 or $540 USD, which is $67 per visit. Yes, you can find cheaper girls. Yes, you can get more for the same price. I don't have time to breakdown every possible outcome.
For just over the price of one of those short time visits, you can get a membership.
This is my first trip using SA, and I wouldn't recommend it for a 7-10 day trip kind of guy, unless you use it the month prior to your trip.
There are "semi pros" and "non-pros" on SA. I have had probably 7-8 freebies off SA, in addition to Wifey, Pinky, my original live-in, and others that have become repeats. Coin Slot is from SA.
YMMV when it comes to freebies, but if you prefer more than the wham bam thank you ma'am, I'd recommend SA. If I had the desire, I imagine I could have a dinner, drinks, fuck sesh with an SA girl just about nightly. As The Tall Man recently said, sometimes I'd just rather watch a game or get a good night's sleep.
SA is also great for just building contacts. I have probably 200 phone contacts that include "MDE SA" in their info.There are still gusto lovers, I know I get criticized a lot for being a Medellin regular who still goes to gusto. But if you love to party with the crowd, and don't mind the 200 dollars TLN and the 200 dollars bar bill, gusto is a great place to party on a Friday night, after gusto closes, you can move the party to your place at 4 am with two smoking hot and drunk Paisas who will do absolutely anything for you. The way I see it, one hour with two Korean girls in their late 20's cost about 550 dollars at where I live, gusto is a steal.
I'm taking your advice, I will sign up for SÁ the moment president duque announce business travel will be allowed in September.
Oh, and just a quick sidebar. Pinky got a positive result, last night. She came over late July, after a period that was maybe July 20-25 range, then she came over this past weekend. She says she hasn't been with anyone else, which I highly-doubt. Not sure why she'd take a test without missing a period, but she said because her stomach hurt and she had a different odor. I am very confident I didn't make a known mistake, but shit happens. We only banged once each of the last two times she was here. We chatted and she agreed to take another test this weekend. So, hoping for the best. If anyone has any info / experience with this in Medellin, not in general, please feel free to PM me. She is not from Medellin, so I'd imagine the likelihood of her being open to exploring all of her options might be a bit higher than normal. Also, since I have recently bought her a phone and paid her rent, maybe she'd be a bit more submissive, which is her nature.
Cheers.I always bring some plan be with me, I try to pull it out every time, but there are times things are too perfect, I just have to deposit my load inside a warm 18-year-old pussy. The irony is that a pill of plan be cost about 45 dollars here in California, it's more than what some would pay for a fuck in el centro. Does anyone know a good place to get plan be in Medellin?
Quagmire1974
08-08-20, 05:06
Oh, and just a quick sidebar. Pinky got a positive result, last night. She came over late July, after a period that was maybe July 20-25 range, then she came over this past weekend. She says she hasn't been with anyone else, which I highly-doubt. Not sure why she'd take a test without missing a period, but she said because her stomach hurt and she had a different odor. I am very confident I didn't make a known mistake, but shit happens. We only banged once each of the last two times she was here. We chatted and she agreed to take another test this weekend. So, hoping for the best. If anyone has any info / experience with this in Medellin, not in general, please feel free to PM me.Thank you for sharing your experience. It's a great reminder that mongering is not a consequence-free activity. Reading the multiple forums here on ISG, you'd think that mongers are banging WGs left and right and nobody catches a sexually transmitted disease, nobody gets pregnant, or nobody has to consider terminating an unwanted pregnancy.
As a casual observer with no dog in the fight, I'll offer some input from the way that I see the situation. Let's suppose Pinky takes another test or goes to a clinic and the result is she's pregnant. If she chooses to have the baby, then support her decision but don't support her financially. When the baby is born, have a paternity test immediately done. If the baby is yours, then you can spend all the money you want on diapers, formula, baby food, cribs, strollers, baby clothes, etc. If the baby is not yours, then tell her to hit the bricks and have the real baby daddy pay all of those expenses.
If, on the other hand, it's determined that she's pregnant but wants to terminate the pregnancy, support her decision but don't pay for the procedure. To me, it doesn't matter if someone believes in creation or evolution. To me, it doesn't matter if someone believes that God created the earth in a few days or we all used to swing from trees but then learned to walk upright and use tools. When someone decides to terminate their pregnancy or provides the financial means for someone to terminate a pregnancy, that creates a massive amount of bad karma, karma that eventually has to be paid to Saint Peter at the pearly gates or comes back to haunt you in ways you never saw coming.
Now, back on August 5, you said:
The recent sex goddess freebie has been trying to call things off, but it really feels like she's just trying to get me to profess my love or commit to something. One minute she'll be telling me she loves the sex and spending time with me, the next it's that we can't see each other because she doesn't want to get attached to some one that is unavailable, then it's that she's moving close to me in Poblado. Interestingly enough, she said her ex is a gringo and has a place in Poblado. She will be living there, because it will save her some time in the morning before work, a few days a week. Hmmm. I'll definitely bang her almost any time she wants, but the honeymoon might be over. She is truly seeking an arrangement. Unfortunately, it's not one I'm interested in.It isn't clear to me from your comment whether or not you're talking about Pinky. But if you are, do you know what those actions that you describe tell me? They tell me that she already knew that she was pregnant or believed that she was pregnant and was simply trying to play mind games with you and get you to commit to a long term relationship. She probably knows who the real baby daddy is and it's probably someone who doesn't want anything to do with her and / or is someone who doesn't have the financial means to support a baby. Meanwhile:
Also, since I have recently bought her a phone and paid her rent...That's my two cents. It wasn't my intention to troll or insult you, so if you get that impression from my comments, I apologize. I'm sure a few others will throw a few pennies in your direction and that's fine. ISG is probably overdue for a "consequences of mongering" discussion anyway. Please keep us all updated and what eventually happens with your situation.
Thank you to everyone that took the time to respond to my hotel question. Gives me a lot to ponder and think about. Thank you Tall Man for volunteering to do some recon, I look forward to the results.
As for Slapshot, keep us in the loop!
Nice to know we think along the same lines and thanks for feedback on sabaneta. Stayed in Laureles 4 months actually and loved it. Just perusing options. I don't want to totally go against paying over 200 k. If she is truly a prize, then do so and then low ball her down for 2nd session. I did learn from slapshot the weekly or monthly agreement does get you an unbelievable daily rate. The girls won't stick to it but you will still come out ahead. Also agree with slapshot on being a member of dating apps. One or 2 dates at a good cost, you got your money's worth. Ok I am out til I reach Colombia.
Blakman always blessed
You got it right, Blakman. I would not have paid 250 K to any facebook girl under normal circumstances and most certainly not now. When they should be happy to get anything close to 150. I understand from some of my contacts that the FB girls who communicate are trying to hold fast at 250 or 225, but I just can't see how that's going to work unless there are an awful lot of stupid gringos who are going to return soon to pay that. These FB girls poo-poo other girls, suggesting that because they accept less, they are "beneath" them. But I counter that there are new girls turning 18 ever day and a lot of them are not only younger, but just as hot or hotter than they are..
Just Incognito
08-08-20, 15:48
Oh, and just a quick sidebar. Pinky got a positive result, <<.
Thank you for re-affirming my decision to have a vasectomy last year LOL! Is it too late to get the make it go away pill? If not, the good news is come 2039, we all might have a hottie pinky Jr. To play with and review here. Lets hope for a girl!
Pinky is super hot by the way--those bikini pics would make any man want her. You are lucky. Or at least were. Preggars. HA! Not for me thanks! Good luck!
I had a girl I hooked up with in February ask to meet up for lunch about 2 weeks later. I was hoping it was for another booty call, instead, we go out, she says she is late for her period and is nervous. I start laughing and told her she just confessed to sleeping with more than just me recently because I got snipped a year ago. I saw her in a store the other day: Now she's getting big and round and some loser dude with no loot is supposedly the daddy. Not my problem! She looked great when I boned her-met her at a beach bar-she was a skinny little blonde dutch chick-28 years old. Now, she is at least 30-40 pounds bigger and looks terrible. Cut her hair, some acne. Pregnancy not helping her cause-glad I dodged that bullet. I don't think she will look as good ever. Some babes look hot preggars, some escape without any real damage or long lasting effects--some just lose all their sexy--I think this is one of them. If Pinky keeps it: she won't look as good--and that's all you had her around for-maybe you get lucky and form a nice little family together and pink returns back to her true sexy younger self in a year.
Why don't dudes just get snipped? So worth it to never have to stress again!
Time to play Michael Jackson 'Billie jean' LOL!
I never pay more than 200 k plus money for cabs and that includes everything on the menu except anal which I don't partake. My plan is to have new girls as you wrote as well. Plenty of new 18 and 19 year olds by next spring willing to take 150 I am sure. Just have to wait for the opportunity to go back. I hate to give some of my girls less than before knowing they are good repeat performers kinda makes me feel bad.
You got it right, Blakman. I would not have paid 250 K to any facebook girl under normal circumstances and most certainly not now. When they should be happy to get anything close to 150. I understand from some of my contacts that the FB girls who communicate are trying to hold fast at 250 or 225, but I just can't see how that's going to work unless there are an awful lot of stupid gringos who are going to return soon to pay that. These FB girls poo-poo other girls, suggesting that because they accept less, they are "beneath" them. But I counter that there are new girls turning 18 ever day and a lot of them are not only younger, but just as hot or hotter than they are..
SlapShot10
08-09-20, 00:49
Now, back on August 5, you said:
It isn't clear to me from your comment whether or not you're talking about Pinky. But if you are, do you know what those actions that you describe tell me? They tell me that she already knew that she was pregnant or believed that she was pregnant and was simply trying to play mind games with you and get you to commit to a long term relationship. She probably knows who the real baby daddy is and it's probably someone who doesn't want anything to do with her and / or is someone who doesn't have the financial means to support a baby. Meanwhile:
That's my two cents. It wasn't my intention to troll or insult you, so if you get that impression from my comments, I apologize. I'm sure a few others will throw a few pennies in your direction and that's fine. ISG is probably overdue for a "consequences of mongering" discussion anyway. Please keep us all updated and what eventually happens with your situation.
Different girl, but no offense taken. Sex goddess freebie is on her way. I got to go shower!
Pinky might be bullshitting, she might not. Now, I say that about the pregnancy. If she is pregnant, I really don't think it's even 50/50 that it's mine. I can't imagine she's making ends meet just by my donations. Only time will tell...
Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.
Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.San Peter is chica friendly. They collect the cedula at the front desk. Now is a good time to rent there because La 70 is closed down so it isn't very noisy.
Thanks for info. I love the nightlife. As well as the quiet LOL. But I do not think there will be any night life anytime soon.
San Peter is chica friendly. They collect the cedula at the front desk. Now is a good time to rent there because La 70 is closed down so it isn't very noisy..
Quagmire1974
08-09-20, 02:40
Pinky might be bullshitting, she might not. Now, I say that about the pregnancy. If she is pregnant, I really don't think it's even 50/50 that it's mine. I can't imagine she's making ends meet just by my donations. Only time will tell...My fingers are crossed that the situation works out in your favor. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
On a side note, I enjoy reading your regular reports. I've only been to Colombia five times (Cartagena, Bogota, Cali, San Andres Island, Medellin) and each time I read one of your reports, I think "I've got to get back there sooner rather than later. " You guys in Colombia are living an enviable life.
ColombiaLover
08-09-20, 02:54
Yep, the only parties for you will be in your apartment and in your pants. I would be happy to go to Colombia and hole up in my apartments. But that's not so appealing for guys who have never been or who go infrequently. As going out is a big deal at first.
Thanks for info. I love the nightlife. As well as the quiet LOL. But I do not think there will be any night life anytime soon.
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GeneHickman
08-09-20, 03:11
I have no idea of how you would misconstrue that I was close Campo Valdes, I am much closer to poblado as I looked at Campo Valdes and the address to where my new apartment is located. I have no idea how a monger would put themselves on a certain pedestal about WGs when we are located in the same city and have access to the same women.
The only difference is the verbiage used on line to make others think that there is a real difference, there is no difference. Girls in Centro have no problem telling me and anyone willing to listen that they frequently go to Poblado at night to earn $300,000 pesos per date. You all have to stop making Medellin out to be a different place based on where you live? It is not, it is still Medellin. I love Centro, my dentist is in Poblado, so you think he won't take my money because I don't live in Poblado, you guys must stop with fancy foolishness that you type on line.
If you choose to pay $300,000 pesos per date, I salute you. If you choose to pay $1500 usd monthly for rent, I salute you. I thank the Almighty that I do not have to pay that and I do have to stay in Poblado or Laureles to feel safe. The more you guys isolate yourself to certain areas tell anyone with a brain about your concept of others. If you are afraid for your safety say that, if you are trying to impress girls from Centro who put on fancy outfits to travel to Poblado say that. Many of you all are paying extra do to being lazy and not wanting to travel and actually do leg work, you should also say that.
Too many of you BMs are judgmental about other BMs and your replies show. I know what guys are paying for rent, I have been all over the city looking for apartments before I found the Apartment I have. You'll take a post personal and call another BM a Cartel Member and salute another BM, when you know that BM is paying through the nose. You should stop being so obvious about your hate toward certain BMs simply because you are not here and have no idea what each BMs financial situation is and then trying to shade behind fancy words, like daft. I am neither absurd nor foolish, regardless of what you may take from my posts.
The girls are plentiful and snatch is at an all-time low due the country being closed and mongers being so few. In the future if you don't like what another BM posts, keep it moving and don't take it personal. It is so much snatch floating around Medellin that other BMs are trying to help girls who cannot get enough dates to make ends meet. As always, I am still banging girls at will and having a blast in and around Centro, why go anywhere else when the girls are just standing around begging you to take one for a rump. Much respect and as always, Pollo Negro is out!Only issue with this is I am not so sure most of the pussy demand is from gringos in the first place. Medellin is a city of 2. 5 M natives, and at the most there are probably 1000 tourist arrivals daily. Even if every male was a monger that's like 500 mongers.
Of 1. 25 M paisa men, I am sure even if just 10% partake to some extent that is like 125 k punters. So the numbers are orders of magnitude variant. Its the local demand or lack of it that drives the market. Yeah sure the gusto chicas might be having to get off their pedestals, but the average chica is struggling more because the colombianos don't have the disposable income right now. Of course whether gustos or otherwise if the clientele the prepago serves is skewed to gringos then she is impacted more, but the market is a lot more than gringos.
In Colombia, most of the demand for pussy and everything else is from Colombians. That said, I can understand how it might not seem that way if Poblado is the center and Laureles is the great beyond.
Buenos Aires is a good choice for Pollo Negro, even if it is not close to Campo Valdes. It's within a 15 to 20 minute walk to the forbidden zone (for him) of Plaza Botero. It has a growing number of low key high quality restaurants and bars but it is also a real barrio where the prices of basic necessities are not skewed toward gringo trade.
Only issue with this is I am not so sure most of the pussy demand is from gringos in the first place. Medellin is a city of 2. 5 M natives, and at the most there are probably 1000 tourist arrivals daily. Even if every male was a monger that's like 500 mongers.
Of 1. 25 M paisa men, I am sure even if just 10% partake to some extent that is like 125 k punters. So the numbers are orders of magnitude variant. Its the local demand or lack of it that drives the market. Yeah sure the gusto chicas might be having to get off their pedestals, but the average chica is struggling more because the colombianos don't have the disposable income right now. Of course whether gustos or otherwise if the clientele the prepago serves is skewed to gringos then she is impacted more, but the market is a lot more than gringos.
Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.It's definitely chica friendly but I wouldn't recommend it if you're a light sleeper, as it sits right above a night club, is right next to the busy Av. 70, and there's a large church nearby that's always ringing its bells. I was only ever able to get any sleep by wearing sleep headphones that were blasting white noise at full volume.
That is good to know, thanks for the information.
It's definitely chica friendly but I wouldn't recommend it if you're a light sleeper, as it sits right above a night club, is right next to the busy Av. 70, and there's a large church nearby that's always ringing its bells. I was only ever able to get any sleep by wearing sleep headphones that were blasting white noise at full volume.
PolloNegro
08-09-20, 16:49
Good to know that you are not freely giving pesos because throwing money around makes you look like a damn fool, a joke or a cartel member.Still Shade and you don't know me from a can of paint, therefore you have to start utilizing names to justify rationale for being seen on the post. Like I said before, I am no fool, no joke, and damn sure am not a Cartel Member, but the rest of the members can clearly see how you feel about others with financial means to stay in Medellin for a 6 month to year's time without difficulty, I guess the others who are here with me for the duration of time are also Cartel Members, Jokes, or Damn fools too? They are clearly spending more money than I am, but carry on Judge! Pollo Negro Is Out!
I think I am going to take it. I am cheapy charlie negotiating right now. Close to metro and taxis so ideal for lockdown sex and departure
It's definitely chica friendly but I wouldn't recommend it if you're a light sleeper, as it sits right above a night club, is right next to the busy Av. 70, and there's a large church nearby that's always ringing its bells. I was only ever able to get any sleep by wearing sleep headphones that were blasting white noise at full volume..
At the end of June I made a couple of posts on this forum, particularly enquiring about how viable Colombia was for people of my age group (late 60's) Several of you made useful replies and I had fully intended to thank you all personally with a reply and ask a couple of other questions.
About this time I looked on the worldometers site regarding Coronavirus and saw that Colombia, was then ranked 23rd for infections, but was reporting 6 k cases a day. I thought I should wait before wasting anyone's time with more questions. Since then Colombia has moved up to 8th place and 10 k infections a day are not uncommon. Under the circumstances, I have abandoned any plans to go there for the foreseeable future.
I am just writing to say, thanks to those who made an input, and my apologies in taking so long to reply.
Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.OK I'll fill in some color. I stayed there for a month around January. There are several advantages and some disadvantages as well. You'll have to weigh which matter most to you and act in your own best interest.
Advantages:
Definitely girl friendly. They need to have their cedula when they show up but the staff understands the attraction of the place and are very open minded.
Location is very good. The area is ripe with restaurants but unfortunately at the moment most are closed. But your deliveries will be very prompt if you order from places nearby.
There are a lot of banks in the immediate area so you won't have to go far to make ATM withdrawals.
These are more like apartments and have a kitchen that includes a microwave, a stove, a refrigerator, silverware etc. So you can cook your own food or reheat left-overs.
Rooms are fairly spacious so you won't feel like you are living in a shoebox (which is true of a lot of hotels). Rooms have a washing machine but not a dryer. You'll take your damp clothes from the washer.
And put them on a rack and turn on a large floor fan that will dry them off in an hour or so.
WiFi is consistently good.
Disadvantages:
The showers don't always work to perfection which means you may not have hot water on demand. You'll want to verify this (assuming it is important to you) before committing to a certain room.
There is no daily maid service. You'll have to wash your own sheets and pillow-cases and dry them and remake your bed along with sweeping the floors and washing your bathroom towels.
The price is on the expensive side. You may be able to negotiate a deal during the quarantine but that same deal is available at a lot of upper end hotels in Laureles which have better amenities.
There is a bar on the registration floor which is open several (but not all) days of the week, but is closed during the quarantine. The staff and owner are friendly and other like-minded extranjeros are usually there.
Which can make for fun company and conversation.
The place is half a block off of La 70 (a major street) but is a little difficult to fine for some taxis. Not a major issue but it can be annoying at times and if your girl messages you about the location, you may.
Need to be prepared to address it.
Good Luck!
Hotel Botero is no more, its a done deal & completely empty. Pollo negro is out!Noooooo! My go to spot!
What the hell! Do you know if it is going to be remodeled as a hotel or what?
Mr Enternational
08-09-20, 23:50
It's definitely chica friendly but I wouldn't recommend it if you're a light sleeper, as it sits right above a night club, is right next to the busy Av. 70, and there's a large church nearby that's always ringing its bells. I was only ever able to get any sleep by wearing sleep headphones that were blasting white noise at full volume.Back in February I did not have the problems that you had. I think I was on the 3rd floor. Remember if a chick does not have ID then she is not getting in to the San Peter. Dudes either for that matter. Another board member came to pick me up and they would not let him up because he did not have ID.
PolloNegro
08-10-20, 00:09
Noooooo! My go to spot!
What the hell! Do you know if it is going to be remodeled as a hotel or what?The entire building is empty. Pollo Negro is out!
No board members or dudes will be visiting me. The only way I will see a board member is if they play tennis or work out in a gym LOL.
Back in February I did not have the problems that you had. I think I was on the 3rd floor. Remember if a chick does not have ID then she is not getting in to the San Peter. Dudes either for that matter. Another board member came to pick me up and they would not let him up because he did not have ID..
Back in February I did not have the problems that you had. I think I was on the 3rd floor. Remember if a chick does not have ID then she is not getting in to the San Peter. Dudes either for that matter. Another board member came to pick me up and they would not let him up because he did not have ID.I read about the noise on tripadvisor so I booked a high floor when I stayed there. I think it may also have to do with the orientation or position of the unit.
Lucky Nuts
08-10-20, 05:33
I read about the noise on tripadvisor so I booked a high floor when I stayed there. I think it may also have to do with the orientation or position of the unit.My experience is that the bar noise is no problem six nights per week. But don't even try to sleep before 3 AM on Saturday night. The locals are in nearby bars singing along to very old songs at the top of their lungs. I hope to never stay at San Peter again on a Saturday night but if I do will not try sleeping until after 3 AM.
Do you happen to know if it has to be a cedula or can it be a Vennie / any passport?
Back in February I did not have the problems that you had. I think I was on the 3rd floor. Remember if a chick does not have ID then she is not getting in to the San Peter. Dudes either for that matter. Another board member came to pick me up and they would not let him up because he did not have ID.
Decor and space
My experience is that the bar noise is no problem six nights per week. But don't even try to sleep before 3 AM on Saturday night. The locals are in nearby bars singing along to very old songs at the top of their lungs. I hope to never stay at San Peter again on a Saturday night but if I do will not try sleeping until after 3 AM..
At the end of June I made a couple of posts on this forum, particularly enquiring about how viable Colombia was for people of my age group (late 60's) Several of you made useful replies and I had fully intended to thank you all personally with a reply and ask a couple of other questions.
About this time I looked on the worldometers site regarding Coronavirus and saw that Colombia, was then ranked 23rd for infections, but was reporting 6 k cases a day. I thought I should wait before wasting anyone's time with more questions. Since then Colombia has moved up to 8th place and 10 k infections a day are not uncommon. Under the circumstances, I have abandoned any plans to go there for the foreseeable future.
I am just writing to say, thanks to those who made an input, and my apologies in taking so long to reply.The statistics are depressing to say the least, and now the USA State Department has issued a Level 4 travel advisory due to increased crime, terrorism, and kidnapping along with the CDC issuing a Level 3 Health notice.
Nil Admirari
08-10-20, 22:38
In response to Blakman;2474254 _Decor and space.
The San Peter is a condo building, so interior design (furniture, wall finishes, decoration), cooking / dining equipment, and other features (type of entry lock, safe / no safe, Wi-Fi, cable TV, hot water heater setup) varies from owner to owner (unit to unit) Most units are managed on behalf of the individual owner through the on-site manager for the building as a whole, but some are listed / managed independently through AirBnB. Photos usually available.
In terms of space, as I recall there are three (or perhaps four) units per floor, each with its own configuration and varying in size (studio, small one bedroom, and larger one bedroom options). As another member reported, the noise problem depends on the orientation of the unit.
I can confirm that the management is Girl Friendly but quite strict about IDs. One of my favorites (a Venezuelan hottie) had a Colombian photo Cedula de Identidad issued by Immigration (Permiso Especial de Permanencia or PEP), but the management said there were too many fakes in circulation and insisted on her having another form of cedula as well. We ended up having to have our trysts in a nearby hotel.
Decor and space
.You can find pictures on booking.com.
Lucky Nuts
08-11-20, 03:52
Do you happen to know if it has to be a cedula or can it be a Vennie / any passport?Yes the San Peter, unlike my usual apartment, does accept passports even from Colombianas. I had an 18 year old that no kidding had a passport but had already "lost" her cedula. Said she had the passport because a gringo novio flew her to Cancun as soon as she hit 18.
Lucky Nuts
08-11-20, 04:04
Decor and space
.They vary greatly Blakman. I'd recommend to anyone to pay the little extra (probably ten bucks per night) and request the nicest unit available. But that's just me. Only place I've rented in Medellin that wants dollars instead of pesos. So bring green cash not credit cards.
News of virus Increase in Medellin.
Could there be an extension with international ban. What actions do guys currently in Colombia think will happen come September 1st.
They vary greatly Blakman. I'd recommend to anyone to pay the little extra (probably ten bucks per night) and request the nicest unit available. But that's just me. Only place I've rented in Medellin that wants dollars instead of pesos. So bring green cash not credit cards..
Yes a travel ban extension may or may not happen. No guys in Colombia don't know any more about the probability than anyone else.
News of virus Increase in Medellin.
Could there be an extension with international ban. What actions do guys currently in Colombia think will happen come September 1st..
News of virus Increase in Medellin.
Could there be an extension with international ban. What actions do guys currently in Colombia think will happen come September 1st..The two issues that the board members on the ground cannot predict will occur is whether the USA will be banned entry, and / or whether a 14 day quarantine will be in effect if the Country re-opens to International travel on September 1.
According to an article in the Bogota Post yesterday, decisions will be made supposedly in the next few weeks whether to re-open El Dorado airport on Sept 1 for limited flights to resume, and Avianca has been gearing up for this.
I'm not holding my breath that un-restricted travel into Colombia for USA citizens is going to occur on September 1.
Just Incognito
08-11-20, 16:20
News of virus Increase in Medellin.
Could there be an extension with international ban. What actions do guys currently in Colombia think will happen come September 1st..There will be no US tourism to Colombia in 2020. How can people not have this figured out yet? Sheesh.
From what I have read and seen on social media (not the most accurate), Bogota is relaxing it's city restrictions on Friday the 14th. Medellin is only opening air travel within the country on September 1st, International tourist travel is slated for November 1st. This is just what I have heard and as well all know things can change daily.
News of virus Increase in Medellin.
Could there be an extension with international ban. What actions do guys currently in Colombia think will happen come September 1st.
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International travel will be allowed with restrictions such as prior testing and quarantine follow ups. But then common sense says this info would have been provided already if travel would start September the 1st. I guess that's why I chose to book with american airline. Easier to use voucher elsewhere.
The two issues that the board members on the ground cannot predict will occur is whether the USA will be banned entry, and / or whether a 14 day quarantine will be in effect if the Country re-opens to International travel on September 1.
According to an article in the Bogota Post yesterday, decisions will be made supposedly in the next few weeks whether to re-open El Dorado airport on Sept 1 for limited flights to resume, and Avianca has been gearing up for this.
I'm not holding my breath that un-restricted travel into Colombia for USA citizens is going to occur on September 1..
The reopening of international flights will begin in Colombia on September 1, as planned by the Government. However, not until November 2020 will there be a more normalization of international flights in the country for "tourism and visitors".
International travel will be allowed with restrictions such as prior testing and quarantine follow ups. But then common sense says this info would have been provided already if travel would start September the 1st. I guess that's why I chose to book with american airline. Easier to use voucher elsewhere.
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Elvis 2008
08-11-20, 19:38
The two issues that the board members on the ground cannot predict will occur is whether the USA will be banned entry, and / or whether a 14 day quarantine will be in effect if the Country re-opens to International travel on September 1.
According to an article in the Bogota Post yesterday, decisions will be made supposedly in the next few weeks whether to re-open El Dorado airport on Sept 1 for limited flights to resume, and Avianca has been gearing up for this.
I'm not holding my breath that un-restricted travel into Colombia for USA citizens is going to occur on September 1.Surfer, according to a report that Medellin guru had up, Bogota has not even applied to open its airport whereas the airports in most other parts of the country (Medellin, Cali, Barranquilla, Cartagena) had applied to be open to international travel on September 1.
The article MG linked also said there were quarantines in effect before the air travel shutdown, and the article indicated a high likelihood they would return.
As I have said many times before, the decision to open up is political. If you have a virus spreading domestically in force already, there is no point in banning travel. The issue for the president is if he opens up the airports and the number of cases explodes, he will get accused of screwing up. The only way around this then is to open up slowly, and I think that is what he is going to do.
There will be no US tourism to Colombia in 2020. How can people not have this figured out yet? Sheesh.I guess we are just not as smart as you are or maybe you are just an asshole. Take your pick.
Since it looks like this thread is being steered (again) towards a discussion that's already going on in at least 2 other threads, here's something that is at least peripherally related to the purpose of this thread.
A few days ago one of the girls I've been in contact with asked me to send her a video. Not the video you might expect a girl to ask for, although very few ask for that video. She wanted me to send her a video she had sent me.
Some background information:
Her best friend is a true submissive. She wants to be dominated and for whatever reason, she wants me to be the one who dominates her. Mostly that consists of giving her things to do in the videos she sends me every few days. It's gotten a bit difficult because she is sending about 1 hour worth of video every week (No. I'm not willing to trade or sell).
A few weeks back, when she sent a picture (G-Rated) of her with a friend I gave her a suggestion, have her friend watch her masturbate while making the videos. I didn't expect her to ask her best friend, who I'd also talked with. My impression was that her best friend was a bit of a goody two shoes. I was wrong.
Her best friend suggested they make a lesbian video for me, for a price. Negotiations began and an agreement was reached. After which the surprises continued. I figured they would meet at the best friend's house and make the video. Instead they found an open love motel (many are closed) and went there.
According to both of them, and take this however you want, neither had ever sent nude videos before they began sending them to me. Of course, the best friend didn't send me any nude videos before the lesbian video. They also claimed they had never played around together. That part I definitely believe, because there's a certain awkwardness in the video. These are also not your typical barrio working girls. Both are middle class, educated and employed.
In one segment of the video the best friend is watching the submissive masturbate, while she's also masturbating. Both are nude and the look on her face is incredible. She's clearly very excited watching. That's the video she wanted me to send, because after sending everything to me, she deleted it from her phone.
Basically, she's getting off watching a video she made of her watching her best friend masturbate.
Turns out, the one I thought was the most boring is the one who is the most interesting. Will it translate into hooking up when I get back to Medellin? Who knows? For now it's a fun diversion.
Just Incognito
08-12-20, 04:53
I guess we are just not as smart as you are or maybe you are just an asshole. Take your pick.Both. Desperate mongers got to stop repeating the exact same discussions every other minute. Nobody is visiting Colombia from the US in 2020.
Elvis 2008
08-12-20, 05:30
From what I have read and seen on social media (not the most accurate), Bogota is relaxing it's city restrictions on Friday the 14th. Medellin is only opening air travel within the country on September 1st, International tourist travel is slated for November 1st. This is just what I have heard and as well all know things can change daily.Luminus, one of my chicas told me the same thing today about Barranquilla.
It has not been about citizenship. The restrictions have been about travel country of travel origin. People who are in the United States are likely to be restricted regardless of their nationality. Colombian nationality has been the only exception so far.
The two issues that the board members on the ground cannot predict will occur is whether the USA will be banned entry, and / or whether a 14 day quarantine will be in effect if the Country re-opens to International travel on September 1.
According to an article in the Bogota Post yesterday, decisions will be made supposedly in the next few weeks whether to re-open El Dorado airport on Sept 1 for limited flights to resume, and Avianca has been gearing up for this.
I'm not holding my breath that un-restricted travel into Colombia for USA citizens is going to occur on September 1.
Medellin Guru is wrong, again. Check the Minister of Tourism's confirmation that El Dorado will operate a pilot flight September 1. It will be domestic.
Surfer, according to a report that Medellin guru had up, Bogota has not even applied to open its airport whereas the airports in most other parts of the country (Medellin, Cali, Barranquilla, Cartagena) had applied to be open to international travel on September 1.
The article MG linked also said there were quarantines in effect before the air travel shutdown, and the article indicated a high likelihood they would return.
As I have said many times before, the decision to open up is political. If you have a virus spreading domestically in force already, there is no point in banning travel. The issue for the president is if he opens up the airports and the number of cases explodes, he will get accused of screwing up. The only way around this then is to open up slowly, and I think that is what he is going to do.
November 1st was the new date announced a week ago for tourist to visit although this can and will probably change. There were no details given on what the conditions are (cuarentena, virus testing, countries allowed). Long shot of returning in 2020 as the virus cases keep increasing.
Luminus, one of my chicas told me the same thing today about Barranquilla..
SpiderRider
08-12-20, 15:26
Both. Desperate mongers got to stop repeating the exact same discussions every other minute. Nobody is visiting Colombia from the US in 2020.Thank you! Let it go. Mexico is open. In fact, Cancun is rocking, I wish I was there.
Thanks for the confirmation, I'm checking things out for November but February / March are looking more promising. Oh, and to some other posters, not every traveler is from the USA, some may not have the same restrictions.
Luminus, one of my chicas told me the same thing today about Barranquilla.
Hi all, just looking for opinions on traveling with sex related items. If someone shows up with a dozen or two of cheap vibrators and a liter or two of lube is customs going to seize those items as has been reported in the Argentina forum or is it anything goes, don't care attitude?
I saw a guy handing out cards for Zaza the other day. I might check them out later today.
LivingFossil
08-12-20, 17:14
Thanks for this post, if you won't share the video can you post a few screen shots of the videos for the needy out here? Haha.
What type of lesbian stuff did they do?
I was in MDE once a couple years ago and had an amazing experience, the girls are the hottest, looking to go back ASAP.
I might got to Mexico or Brazil since I won't be going to work anytime soon.
Since it looks like this thread is being steered (again) towards a discussion that's already going on in at least 2 other threads, here's something that is at least peripherally related to the purpose of this thread.
A few days ago one of the girls I've been in contact with asked me to send her a video. Not the video you might expect a girl to ask for, although very few ask for that video. She wanted me to send her a video she had sent me.
Some background information:
Her best friend is a true submissive. She wants to be dominated and for whatever reason, she wants me to be the one who dominates her. Mostly that consists of giving her things to do in the videos she sends me every few days. It's gotten a bit difficult because she is sending about 1 hour worth of video every week (No. I'm not willing to trade or sell).
A few weeks back, when she sent a picture (G-Rated) of her with a friend I gave her a suggestion, have her friend watch her masturbate while making the videos. I didn't expect her to ask her best friend, who I'd also talked with. My impression was that her best friend was a bit of a goody two shoes. I was wrong.
Her best friend suggested they make a lesbian video for me, for a price. Negotiations began and an agreement was reached. After which the surprises continued. I figured they would meet at the best friend's house and make the video. Instead they found an open love motel (many are closed) and went there..
There will be no US tourism to Colombia in 2020. How can people not have this figured out yet? Sheesh.Economics dictate the time, not the virus. The virus did that months ago up until July when the EU started to open their borders. Colombia is at or close to the peak of cases and deaths. Some business travel to Colombia might open up October / November time frame. Non-essential, aka tourism shortly after. Most governments have already recognized that society will need to live with the virus. Tourism / travel is a major source of revenue for many many countries, not to mention employment. And do not forget Herd Immunity, it's not close in Colombia. But it is in various parts of the USA.
Hi all, just looking for opinions on traveling with sex related items. If someone shows up with a dozen or two of cheap vibrators and a liter or two of lube is customs going to seize those items as has been reported in the Argentina forum or is it anything goes, don't care attitude?I've brought a robot vacuum cleaner and a vibrator to Medellin in my carry-on and no one in customs or airport security said anything, so take that for what it's worth.
Black Page
08-12-20, 18:21
until July when the EU started to open their borders. Colombia is at or close to the peak of cases and deaths........ I will not question your claims, which reflect your opinion, but I just wish to point out that EU borders are not open at all. There is almost free circulation withing the Schengen area (and UK, Ireland), but people from outside Schengen (including USA) CANNOT enter Europe unless for very specific reasons that must be certified (work, return to home, urgent matters, etc.), certainly not for tourism.
Right in these days, more restrictions have been and are going to be introduced also within Schengen.
From some few extra-Schengen countries, people CAN enter Europe, but are mandated to 14-days quarantine.
From some other countries (including Brazil), entrance to Europe is forbidden, period.
And do not forget Herd Immunity, it's not close in Colombia. But it is in various parts of the USA.Where did you read that in various parts of USA 70% of people has enough antibodies to be immune, or just 70% was infected? Please, not even The Donald (not Duck) even dared to tweet anything like this!
I will not question your claims, which reflect your opinion, but I just wish to point out that EU borders are not open at all. There is almost free circulation withing the Schengen area (and UK, Ireland), but people from outside Schengen (including USA) CANNOT enter Europe unless for very specific reasons that must be certified (work, return to home, urgent matters, etc.), certainly not for tourism.
Right in these days, more restrictions have been and are going to be introduced also within Schengen.
From some few extra-Schengen countries, people CAN enter Europe, but are mandated to 14-days quarantine.
From some other countries (including Brazil), entrance to Europe is forbidden, period.
Where did you read that in various parts of USA 70% of people has enough antibodies to be immune, or just 70% was infected? Please, not even The Donald (not Duck) even dared to tweet anything like this!NY, NJ and San Marino pretty much reached herd immunity. There's a reason why the countries / states / cities with the highest numbers of deaths are also seeing sharp decreases in new deaths. It's called herd immunity, or do you think that's a coincidence? Why are you mentioning 70%? The threshold for herd immunity is unknown, it could be as low as 40%.
Elvis 2008
08-12-20, 19:02
Economics dictate the time, not the virus. The virus did that months ago up until July when the EU started to open their borders. Colombia is at or close to the peak of cases and deaths. Some business travel to Colombia might open up October / November time frame. Non-essential, aka tourism shortly after. Most governments have already recognized that society will need to live with the virus. Tourism / travel is a major source of revenue for many many countries, not to mention employment. And do not forget Herd Immunity, it's not close in Colombia. But it is in various parts of the USA.That is a really good post Puntz. The thing about Colombia is that IMO is that it listened to the experts too well and did not do its own analysis. The end result was the virus raged and the economy has been devastated. It is getting worse now not just with the virus but the Colombian peso looks to be in free fall again, and that puts even more strain on their economy.
Instead of just blindly following the world community, Swedish scientists infamously developed their own policies and it seemed like everyone in the globalist medical world order verbally savaged them as irresponsible and reckless.
These so called experts pointed to their neighboring countries and showed lower death rates and claimed Sweden killed thousands of its own people. If you compare Sweden to Norway, it did horribly. If you compare it to the UK, then it did great. The real issue in Sweden with death though was not that they should have done a general lockdown but a targeted lockdown with nursing home residents.
But one of the smarter things Sweden did was keep the schools open exposing the people at lowest risk for issues with the virus, and the antibodies to Corona among these groups are impressive as well: Most of those who have had themselves tested are between 20 and 69 years old, but it is in the age category 10–19 years that the largest proportion of those sampled, 29.3 per cent, carry antibodies. The age group 20–29 also stands out somewhat, 16.6 percent in that group have tested positive.
While Sweden's no-lockdown approach was shunned by its Nordic neighbors, health officials in Denmark and Norway came around to Sweden's stance on schools.
Both made reopening them one of their first steps out of lockdown. Neither has seen a resurgence since.
Did generalized lockdowns work in Colombia? Nope. Did banning international travel work? No. Did closing down the schools work? Of course not.
In fact, if you look at the effects, they were all harmful to the economy and closing down schools may have inhibited the March to herd immunity though I am not sure that is all important as it is made out to be.
Some have said that Colombia should open up when the number of cases is going down. The problem is the USA tried that approach based on European and Asian experiences, and the number of cases did not go down like in Europe or Asia but exploded.
The notion that Colombia and Peru were non compliant with the generalized quarantines was laughable. One of my chicas showed me her drive home in Bogota, and I saw the same thing in Lima, the usually crazy crowded roads were empty.
In contrast, here is a video taking on the day when Sweden had its most cases of Covid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5bRh0L03K8.
So you are right Puntz, the politicians in Colombia are not going to go back and say, "We were wrong to listen to the world experts", but they will implement different policies if forced to do so by the economics.
With the women I have been talking to in Colombia, they have been compliant but frustrated with the president's orders because he has been all over the place.
If you go to the one minute mark in this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk and listen to Dave Portnoy, that is the experience of many of my chicas. They are willing to do their part but are frustrated by the stop and go leadership not of Fauci but of the president. Of course, the problem is the Colombian president is listening to the health "experts" like Fauci who are all over the map.
Its guys like you that makes 90% of mongers have to deal with annoying request from internet girls to buy videos. Shame on you for bragging about paying for something you can see for free. I place you in the desperate monger category. Free porn is everywhere. Elevate the game of mongering. Don't detract from it.
Since it looks like this thread is being steered (again) towards a discussion that's already going on in at least 2 other threads, here's something that is at least peripherally related to the purpose of this thread.
A few days ago one of the girls I've been in contact with asked me to send her a video. Not the video you might expect a girl to ask for, although very few ask for that video. She wanted me to send her a video she had sent me.
Some background information:
Her best friend is a true submissive. She wants to be dominated and for whatever reason, she wants me to be the one who dominates her. Mostly that consists of giving her things to do in the videos she sends me every few days. It's gotten a bit difficult because she is sending about 1 hour worth of video every week (No. I'm not willing to trade or sell).
A few weeks back, when she sent a picture (G-Rated) of her with a friend I gave her a suggestion, have her friend watch her masturbate while making the videos. I didn't expect her to ask her best friend, who I'd also talked with. My impression was that her best friend was a bit of a goody two shoes. I was wrong.
Her best friend suggested they make a lesbian video for me, for a price. Negotiations began and an agreement was reached. After which the surprises continued. I figured they would meet at the best friend's house and make the video. Instead they found an open love motel (many are closed) and went there.
According to both of them, and take this however you want, neither had ever sent nude videos before they began sending them to me. Of course, the best friend didn't send me any nude videos before the lesbian video. They also claimed they had never played around together. That part I definitely believe, because there's a certain awkwardness in the video. These are also not your typical barrio working girls. Both are middle class, educated and employed.
In one segment of the video the best friend is watching the submissive masturbate, while she's also masturbating. Both are nude and the look on her face is incredible. She's clearly very excited watching. That's the video she wanted me to send, because after sending everything to me, she deleted it from her phone.
Basically, she's getting off watching a video she made of her watching her best friend masturbate.
Turns out, the one I thought was the most boring is the one who is the most interesting. Will it translate into hooking up when I get back to Medellin? Who knows? For now it's a fun diversion..
SlapShot10
08-12-20, 19:59
!!!!!!!! That is all !!!!!!!!
Well, not really, but kind of. "Aun no estoy segura. Necesito hacer una prueba de sangre. " Pues cuando tenerias tu periodo, estaramos seguro. "Quiza. Quiero un helado. ".
I heard the lockdown this week is Sat-Mon. A girl from March offered to come over Friday, which I thought was strange, because for 3 weeks she's been bitching at me for always asking her on the weekend. I told her it's ok, and I'd pay the fine, but she wouldn't do it.
Hi all, just looking for opinions on traveling with sex related items. If someone shows up with a dozen or two of cheap vibrators and a liter or two of lube is customs going to seize those items as has been reported in the Argentina forum or is it anything goes, don't care attitude?A liter or two of lube! That's a lot of lube to be carrying around, and might fall into the liquor category with a restriction as to how much you can bring in. Best to declare that of course with those type of quantities, as they may think you will be selling the stuff versus for personal use.
All kidding aside, things for personal use aren't an issue, however with those quantities, they may actually think your going to be selling the stuff, and at the end of the day it will depend on the agent that goes thru your bags. If it's an uptight or very religious person, it may be an issue, or it may be somebody who will howl in laughter. I know you can get vibrators in Colombia, however I have never seen Astroglide for sale anywhere, nor a good assortment of condoms like in the USA. So these are things you should bring with you for sure, albeit 2 liters of Astroglide would be like 13 bottles of the 5 ounce size or like over twenty bottles of the smaller size, and I won't ask why you might need so much lube.
Argentina frowns upon mongering as I experienced when I was there in March, so it's highly unlikely the items you described will be seized in Colombia unless they think you will be selling the stuff, and a large quantity of things might be suspicious.
ColombiaLover
08-12-20, 20:57
Very interesting information. With Colombia, it is very much of an economic issue, which automatically makes it a political issue also. I really do not see a reason why they cannot open international travel with required COVID-19 negative results within 48 hours of travel. To me, there's much more risk in GETTING COVID-19 in Colombia as opposed to someone bringing it in after testing negative.
My question is "Who is really going to travel to Colombia right now, even if they resume international travel?" Those who have relatives in Colombia. Some who have important business. Mongers who are have a lot of experience. I certainly can't see the average tourist returning any time soon. And a "new" monger is not really set up with success under current conditions either.
They should just open the border. Will they? Yes. But when? Everyone is really still guessing.
That is a really good post Puntz. The thing about Colombia is that IMO is that it listened to the experts too well and did not do its own analysis. The end result was the virus raged and the economy has been devastated. It is getting worse now not just with the virus but the Colombian peso looks to be in free fall again, and that puts even more strain on their economy.
Instead of just blindly following the world community, Swedish scientists infamously developed their own policies and it seemed like everyone in the globalist medical world order verbally savaged them as irresponsible and reckless.
These so called experts pointed to their neighboring countries and showed lower death rates and claimed Sweden killed thousands of its own people. If you compare Sweden to Norway, it did horribly. If you compare it to the UK, then it did great. The real issue in Sweden with death though was not that they should have done a general lockdown but a targeted lockdown with nursing home residents.
But one of the smarter things Sweden did was keep the schools open exposing the people at lowest risk for issues with the virus, and the antibodies to Corona among these groups are impressive as well: Most of those who have had themselves tested are between 20 and 69 years old, but it is in the age category 1019 years that the largest proportion of those sampled, 29.3 per cent, carry antibodies. The age group 2029 also stands out somewhat, 16.6 percent in that group have tested positive.
While Sweden's no-lockdown approach was shunned by its Nordic neighbors, health officials in Denmark and Norway came around to Sweden's stance on schools.
Both made reopening them one of their first steps out of lockdown. Neither has seen a resurgence since.
Did generalized lockdowns work in Colombia? Nope. Did banning international travel work? No. Did closing down the schools work? Of course not.
In fact, if you look at the effects, they were all harmful to the economy and closing down schools may have inhibited the March to herd immunity though I am not sure that is all important as it is made out to be.
Some have said that Colombia should open up when the number of cases is going down. The problem is the USA tried that approach based on European and Asian experiences, and the number of cases did not go down like in Europe or Asia but exploded.
The notion that Colombia and Peru were non compliant with the generalized quarantines was laughable. One of my chicas showed me her drive home in Bogota, and I saw the same thing in Lima, the usually crazy crowded roads were empty.
In contrast, here is a video taking on the day when Sweden had its most cases of Covid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5bRh0L03K8.
So you are right Puntz, the politicians in Colombia are not going to go back and say, "We were wrong to listen to the world experts", but they will implement different policies if forced to do so by the economics.
With the women I have been talking to in Colombia, they have been compliant but frustrated with the president's orders because he has been all over the place.
If you go to the one minute mark in this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk and listen to Dave Portnoy, that is the experience of many of my chicas. They are willing to do their part but are frustrated by the stop and go leadership not of Fauci but of the president. Of course, the problem is the Colombian president is listening to the health "experts" like Fauci who are all over the map.
As you just mention. The country will not be dealing with a large influx of passengers.
The Caribbean islands have employed the same tactics successfully.
So why can't Colombia. I am bias cause I bought a ticket LOL
Very interesting information. With Colombia, it is very much of an economic issue, which automatically makes it a political issue also. I really do not see a reason why they cannot open international travel with required COVID-19 negative results within 48 hours of travel. To me, there's much more risk in GETTING COVID-19 in Colombia as opposed to someone bringing it in after testing negative.
My question is "Who is really going to travel to Colombia right now, even if they resume international travel?" Those who have relatives in Colombia. Some who have important business. Mongers who are have a lot of experience. I certainly can't see the average tourist returning any time soon. And a "new" monger is not really set up with success under current conditions either.
They should just open the border. Will they? Yes. But when? Everyone is really still guessing..
Its guys like you that makes 90% of mongers have to deal with annoying request from internet girls to buy videos. Shame on you for bragging about paying for something you can see for free. I place you in the desperate monger category. Free porn is everywhere. Elevate the game of mongering. Don't detract from it..Why gee golly willikers Beav, I never knew that. Thanks so much for pointing it out to me.
The reason why guys like you have to deal with annoying requests from internet girls to buy videos is that you haven't figured out how to handle annoying requests. Allow me to teach you.
Girl: Please buy my videos.
Guy: I'm not interested in buying videos, but if you're interested in meeting for sex, I will talk to you when I'm in Medellin.
Girl: okay, but will you buy my videos?
Guy: No. I don't buy videos. If you ask me again I will block you.
Or you can just shorten it and block them as soon as they ask.
Girl: Buy my videos.
WhatsApp or Messenger: You blocked this person.
See how easy that is?
Now let's cover the rest. 90% of mongers, judging by the guys who don't use Facebook, aren't getting those requests. Am I also to blame for all the guys who get requests from girls to send them money? Looking at the forum, it would appear that girls were hitting guys up for money on the internet 10 years before I ever set foot in Colombia.
I'm not the reason why Chicas are trying to sell videos, asking for handouts, going on webcams or trying to sell everything from booze to sex toys. When people get hungry, they try to find a way to get food. It's one of those basic needs and I didn't create it.
About the specific girls I paid for the videos, not only are they not asking you or anyone else to buy their videos, they aren't now and never will be available to you in any way. Buying videos from them has absolutely no negative effect on mongering in Colombia.
If anything, there's a tiny possibility that, by showing them how to capitalize on sex, one of them might decide that P4P is something to consider. However, I'm absolutely certain none of them would ever come down to your price point.
That's the percentage of Colombia's GDP that tourism accounts for. 3.8%.
Opening up the borders, considering tourism will not immediately return to previous levels, is not going to do anything for the Colombian economy, even if they throw the doors wide open, no quarantine, no testing and no restrictions based on country of origin.
At best, restoring international travel would represent a tiny blip on the economic radar.
As much as you all want to try and rationalize why Colombia should make it easy for you to come back, it has no effect on when the borders will open.
Very interesting information. With Colombia, it is very much of an economic issue, which automatically makes it a political issue also. I really do not see a reason why they cannot open international travel with required COVID-19 negative results within 48 hours of travel. To me, there's much more risk in GETTING COVID-19 in Colombia as opposed to someone bringing it in after testing negative.
My question is "Who is really going to travel to Colombia right now, even if they resume international travel?" Those who have relatives in Colombia. Some who have important business. Mongers who are have a lot of experience. I certainly can't see the average tourist returning any time soon. And a "new" monger is not really set up with success under current conditions either.
They should just open the border. Will they? Yes. But when? Everyone is really still guessing.I have two good Colombian friends in my city in the US. They are telling me they will not visit any time soon (they usually go back for the Holidays). They say that their families in Bogota and Medellin are telling them that people are desperate and the streets are more dangerous than they've been in recent memory. Of course they think I would be out of my mind to go.
Caveat - every middle / upper class Colombian is hyper-concerned about danger in their cities, so I take what they say with a grain of salt. But Colombia's lockdown has been severe and the economy is in miserable condition.
Medellin Report:
Went by Zaza but the door was shut. I didn't knock or ring the bell because I was planning to circle back. Went through Botero and it was packed. A lot of nice talent and phat booties out there. I will definitely be back soon to grab something from out there.
Walked around and was passing by Club Amigas Sexy and I saw the manager outside the front door so I asked her if they were working and she said yes and if the door is closed just ring the bell. Went up and saw the lineup. Saw a lot of familiar faces and grabbed one I hadn't seen before.
The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.
We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.
I gave her a 20 mil propina. We got dressed and she gave me her number and said she would come see me if I hit her on WhatsApp. Today was a good day.
Medellin Report:
The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.
We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.
I gave her a 20 mil propina. Very disrespectful of her not to swallow, and the one's that do are hard to come by.
If she had swallowed, would you have given her a larger tip?
SeanWilkds
08-13-20, 02:16
I haven't been to Club Amigas for a couple of weeks, last time I think there where about 3-4 girls there and they were also in the middle of doing some renovations so gave it a pass. Good to hear there is some new talent and you had a good session. If you feel like sharing details of the girl who doesn't mind CIM, that would be good info to know for sure. For me in the casas that's kind of rare. I haven't been to Zaza's in months, not sure if its still open, from memory that is the one that usually has older heavier women, if its the one I think it is where you go through like a beaded curtain on the way in, never actually sessioned there just visited once or twice. Just so few casas open in centro at the moment and several of them look like they are shut for good, with for rent signs in the windows. As you mentioned lots more action around Botero depending on the day, but also a bit hit and miss depending on your preferences.
Medellin Report:
Went by Zaza but the door was shut. I didn't knock or ring the bell because I was planning to circle back. Went through Botero and it was packed. A lot of nice talent and phat booties out there. I will definitely be back soon to grab something from out there.
Walked around and was passing by Club Amigas Sexy and I saw the manager outside the front door so I asked her if they were working and she said yes and if the door is closed just ring the bell. Went up and saw the lineup. Saw a lot of familiar faces and grabbed one I hadn't seen before.
The chica was very cool and told me she was new. Asked about a BBBJ and she said no problem as long as I give her a propina. She was giving very good head and I asked her if she wanted me to cum in her mouth. She said that was up to me and kind of giggled. I told her to suck some more, then asked her to put the rubber on and told her I wanted to finish in her mouth.
We stroked in several positions and she was surprisingly tight. After getting in a good workout, I told her to start sucking me again. She took the rubber off and was focusing on the head and I told her to suck the whole thing. When she stated sucking more aggressively, I was ready to cum and told her to keep sucking. I finished in her mouth. She didn't swallow but got up and spit it all into the sink.
I gave her a 20 mil propina. We got dressed and she gave me her number and said she would come see me if I hit her on WhatsApp. Today was a good day.
Elvis 2008
08-13-20, 03:09
They say that their families in Bogota and Medellin are telling them that people are desperate and the streets are more dangerous than they've been in recent memory. Of course they think I would be out of my mind to go.
Caveat - every middle / upper class Colombian is hyper-concerned about danger in their cities, so I take what they say with a grain of salt. But Colombia's lockdown has been severe and the economy is in miserable condition.Combo, I would be interested to know if your relatives are getting that from first or second hand sources or from the media and their usual fear porn. My chicas have pretty much been quarantined indoors, so my guess is your relatives were getting that information from the media.
ColombiaLover
08-13-20, 03:13
I imagine it depends on which barrio. In Medellin, I used to go to Aranjuez and Manrique for night life. I would not do that now. I used to go see chicas I know in San Javier and in Popular. I would not do that now. I would walk on the street less. And not at night. In Bogota, I would never go to centro or the South, even before the virus. I would stay far north. My ex-wife's family say it would be OK with coming to their barrio. They are more concerned with COVID than with crime.
Caveat for me. I first went to Medellin and Bogota more than 15 years ago when there were still FARC bombings and gringos were a lot less common. So I guess I take it with a grain of salt to some extent. But it is definitely different now than, say, 5 years ago.
I have two good Colombian friends in my city in the US. They are telling me they will not visit any time soon (they usually go back for the Holidays). They say that their families in Bogota and Medellin are telling them that people are desperate and the streets are more dangerous than they've been in recent memory. Of course they think I would be out of my mind to go.
Caveat - every middle / upper class Colombian is hyper-concerned about danger in their cities, so I take what they say with a grain of salt. But Colombia's lockdown has been severe and the economy is in miserable condition.
In response to Blakman;2474254 _Decor and space.
The San Peter is a condo building, so interior design (furniture, wall finishes, decoration), cooking / dining equipment, and other features (type of entry lock, safe / no safe, Wi-Fi, cable TV, hot water heater setup) varies from owner to owner (unit to unit) Most units are managed on behalf of the individual owner through the on-site manager for the building as a whole, but some are listed / managed independently through AirBnB. Photos usually available.
In terms of space, as I recall there are three (or perhaps four) units per floor, each with its own configuration and varying in size (studio, small one bedroom, and larger one bedroom options). As another member reported, the noise problem depends on the orientation of the unit.
I can confirm that the management is Girl Friendly but quite strict about IDs. One of my favorites (a Venezuelan hottie) had a Colombian photo Cedula de Identidad issued by Immigration (Permiso Especial de Permanencia or PEP), but the management said there were too many fakes in circulation and insisted on her having another form of cedula as well. We ended up having to have our trysts in a nearby hotel.Stayed there many times. The units are all differently furnished and appointed. Generally, the higher floor units have better furniture and amenities, including soundproof windows etc.
They are chica friendly and keep a copy of the cedula. For Colombians they require a cedula and check it against the national police database. For non Colombians, they only accept passports. So venies are a no go, unless they have a passport. They even check ID for male visitors. No limit on the number of visitors etc. They ask for payment in USD or you can convert and pay in COP at current exchange rate. They always quote price in USD. It's a residential building, and regular families live there, so keeping a low profile in the public areas is prudent.
All this info is accurate as of March pre covid.
Has Anyone rented at san Peter's in laureles. Any problems bringing in chicas. Members please chime in if you have knowledge. I am into 3 somes and want to explore some 4 somes.Colombians male or female need cedula. A scanned copy is retained, and the cedula number is verified against the national police database.
Non Colombians need a passport. No exceptions. Generally rules out most venues.
No limit on the number of visitors per day or at a time. Like 2-4 guests at a time, or 2-4 per day. Not sure you can do 20 though.
I have personally done threesomes and foursomes, no problem.
I have stayed in the building many times. PM me if you have additional questions.
John Gault
08-13-20, 13:29
That's the percentage of Colombia's GDP that tourism accounts for. 3.8%.
Opening up the borders, considering tourism will not immediately return to previous levels, is not going to do anything for the Colombian economy, even if they throw the doors wide open, no quarantine, no testing and no restrictions based on country of origin.
At best, restoring international travel would represent a tiny blip on the economic radar.
As much as you all want to try and rationalize why Colombia should make it easy for you to come back, it has no effect on when the borders will open.I will not argue the 3. 8 % you state is not correct. That percent means nothing to the average Puta in MDE. It is more like 95% who are being devastated by no foreign mongers being present.
A lot of the lower class girls mostly Vennies are sleeping on the street. Of course most of the customers these girls get are local hombres, but still the lack of the guys who most likely pay a little more than a local guy is really hurting these poor devils. There is nobody in Colombia handing out $1200 checks to people out of work.
The Colombia economy in general does not reflect the plight of the Vennies as for the most part they have no family to fall back on as the local girls do.
I for one was happy for all the hot girls from Venezuela when I was there in March, and now I can only wish them well.
I will not argue the 3. 8 % you state is not correct. That percent means nothing to the average Puta in MDE. It is more like 95% who are being devastated by no foreign mongers being present.
A lot of the lower class girls mostly Vennies are sleeping on the street. Of course most of the customers these girls get are local hombres, but still the lack of the guys who most likely pay a little more than a local guy is really hurting these poor devils. There is nobody in Colombia handing out $1200 checks to people out of work.
The Colombia economy in general does not reflect the plight of the Vennies as for the most part they have no family to fall back on as the local girls do.
I for one was happy for all the hot girls from Venezuela when I was there in March, and now I can only wish them well.I well understand the plight of the Vennies and the Colombianas too. But none of that is going to be fixed, or considered when it comes to opening up to international travel.
Colombia right now is in the "Oh Shit" zone with corona. I believe their current infection rate is the highest, per capita in the world. With everyone reporting that places like Botero Plaza are packed every day, it's easy to see why. Until they enforce a strict lockdown those numbers aren't going down. Until those numbers start going down, it's highly unlikely international flights will resume. Once they enforce a strict lockdown, and that will probably require the army and turn into a major shitshow, start your countdown.
Black Page
08-13-20, 15:26
NY, NJ and San Marino pretty much reached herd immunity. There's a reason why the countries / states / cities with the highest numbers of deaths are also seeing sharp decreases in new deaths. It's called herd immunity, or do you think that's a coincidence? Why are you mentioning 70%? The threshold for herd immunity is unknown, it could be as low as 40%.
On what TV channel did you read that those areas reached herd immunity? Is it a wishful thinking or what? How could you even present it as a fact, when it is a claim?
Epidemiology is a tough subject. I spent some time listening to colleagues who study epidemiology from the mathematical modelling standpoint, and I was astonished when I saw the number of parameters of the model ranging from 10 to 20, depending on the complexity and level of detail. ISG is not really the right venue where to discuss about such complex matters. It's a branch of math belonging to control theory, which is fascinating indeed.
70% is the most cited number for a so-called "herd immunity", assuming that such X% of persons is immune. Please note that X depends on how contagious is a disease: the more contagious it is, the higher is X. Last year, I read that for measles, which is way more contagious than COVID, the percentage of kids in schools that should be vaccinated, to protect those who cannot take a vaccine because of problems at their immune system, is above 90%.
Nobody knows for sure what is the threshold for "herd immunity" for COVID. You claim 40%? Or 70%? Whatever. One can speculate, but there are not enough empirical data. It is not even sure it may exist!
First of all, nobody knows what is the level of protection gained by those who recovered successfully out of COVID. Several people fell back, and nobody is sure if it was a new infection, or the same as before. Second, nobody knows how long such immunity lasts. Third, nobody knows for sure what is the real number of people in a region (even NY) who caught the virus and developed antibodies or some other type of "immunity". There are esteems, and all can be questioned.
Last but not least, it is true that the natural development of an epidemic shows a peak, but the reason why the count (be it of deaths, of sick, of positive, .) at some points starts to decrease is not necessarily that herd immunity has been reached. Otherwise, there should never be a "second wave" (Spanish Flu had 4 or 5? Such "second waves" do happen right because the first wave ended, but herd immunity is still far from being reached.
Herd immunity would be the only reason of going down after the peak only in a community with free circulation and no countermeasures, a huge pot where people freely mixes and randomly passes the virus. Fortunately, in most countries some people takes serious measures against infection, or mobility is limited.
Is herd immunity a target to aim at, at least for COVID? I would not say so, unless one would accept to see millions of deaths in a country with 300 millions of people potentially subject to be infected, not to mention the permanent effects left by the disease in some patients.
Iguana Six
08-13-20, 15:34
Colombians male or female need cedula. A scanned copy is retained, and the cedula number is verified against the national police database.
Non Colombians need a passport. No exceptions. Generally rules out most venues.
No limit on the number of visitors per day or at a time. Like 2-4 guests at a time, or 2-4 per day. Not sure you can do 20 though.
I have personally done threesomes and foursomes, no problem.
I have stayed in the building many times. PM me if you have additional questions.Is that building currently open?
I will not question your claims, which reflect your opinion, but I just wish to point out that EU borders are not open at all. There is almost free circulation withing the Schengen area (and UK, Ireland), but people from outside Schengen (including USA) CANNOT enter Europe unless for very specific reasons that must be certified (work, return to home, urgent matters, etc.), certainly not for tourism.
Right in these days, more restrictions have been and are going to be introduced also within Schengen.
From some few extra-Schengen countries, people CAN enter Europe, but are mandated to 14-days quarantine.
From some other countries (including Brazil), entrance to Europe is forbidden, period.
Where did you read that in various parts of USA 70% of people has enough antibodies to be immune, or just 70% was infected? Please, not even The Donald (not Duck) even dared to tweet anything like this!With regards to the EU, I said that they opened up their borders. Not to everyone but certain countries yes. The US closed borders with the EU first, and the EU followed after. For the EU to open borders, the US must drop the restrictions first. People easily assume it's because of the high number of cases in the US, but be serious. If the US announced tomorrow that borders are reopening, the EU will drop their restrictions. And the EU has requested the US do this, the largest airlines in the EU especially. Tourism in Colombia is growing, I saw someone mention 3. 8% GDP but record number of visitors last year, and more were expected this year. Lots of jobs depend on tourism from the US to surrounding countries in Latin America. To imply that it makes no difference to the economy if borders opened up is simply not true.
With herd immunity, this is being achieved at approximately 20%. Most recent studies indicate that the burnout rate is between 15-20% before cases start dropping. This was the case in NY especially, and also in Sweden. In the coming days / weeks you'll see cases dropping in FL, TX, AZ, GA etc. And it will be due to this. The rest of the country will see the reductions in early September from my calculations, before it is basically a national burnout.
That's the percentage of Colombia's GDP that tourism accounts for. 3.8%.
Opening up the borders, considering tourism will not immediately return to previous levels, is not going to do anything for the Colombian economy, even if they throw the doors wide open, no quarantine, no testing and no restrictions based on country of origin.
At best, restoring international travel would represent a tiny blip on the economic radar.
As much as you all want to try and rationalize why Colombia should make it easy for you to come back, it has no effect on when the borders will open.If opening up the borders to International travel represents a "tiny blip" on the economic radar, than why open at all. Granted that tourism accounts for a small portion of their GDP, what about other aspects of the economy that have been impacted by being closed. I would venture to guess the effect is much greater than 3. 8% represented for tourism and will drive the re-opening versus all of us mongers wanting to return as you have mentioned.
SlapShot10
08-13-20, 16:59
Pinky asked when we could see each other, yesterday afternoon. She came over around 630p. I grilled some steaks, we had a bottle of wine. She wanted some tussi. Our contact wasn't responding, so she showed me some other contact on WhatsApp that sends out a list of maybe 50 things you can order. It was a bit expensive, compared to others. I received a message from a repeat the other day, asking when we'll see each other. I was with her once, a couple months ago. She's from La Diabla's list. I know she likes to party, so I asked her if she wanted to come over and bring some tussi. She gets it for 45k, which is about 60% of most options. I was a little nervous, as was Pinky, because of the price. It turned out to be fine, but with a bit of a burning sensation and a shitty peach scent / flavor.
I had told her not to come, because she said she would have it delivered, then she would bring it. I figured she would arrive at 12 and I didn't want to start so late. She arrived at 11 p. Standard procedure. She was fun and the girls hit it off. In total, I paid her 350k for 3 grams + her. Pinky also bought a gram, herself. She just left about an hour ago. Pinky also took 20k for a taxi, and her Uber was 15k, yesterday. Good times. Pinky without condom, other girl with.
SonicBoom1
08-13-20, 17:18
Pinky asked when we could see each other, yesterday afternoon. Didn't Pinky give you a pregnancy scare. Or was it Wifey? What's the update there?
SpiderRider
08-13-20, 17:25
A lot of the lower class girls mostly Vennies are sleeping on the street. Of course most of the customers these girls get are local hombres, but still the lack of the guys who most likely pay a little more than a local guy is really hurting these poor devils. There is nobody in Colombia handing out $1200 checks to people out of work.
The Colombia economy in general does not reflect the plight of the Vennies as for the most part they have no family to fall back on as the local girls do.
I for one was happy for all the hot girls from Venezuela when I was there in March, and now I can only wish them well.There's a tall, thin girl from Caracas, absolutely built like a model. About 5'10", very sweet, does not seem to be a smoker, toker, or drinker. No kids, says she lives with her brother. I can see her FB messages. No monkey business as far as I can tell. Friend of a friend introduced me. Stays the night for 150 mil, use of my phone for texting back to family, and a plate of the "arroz China". She'll use my clothes washer sometimes. I've had her over 3 x. Still getting comfortable together. Draw back: No phone or computer for communication. So I just wait to hear from her on FB or random W-App numbers.
My housekeeper was here yesterday, after another long silent period. She has similar communications challenges. She's moved and now must take 2 buses to arrive here. Never mentions taxi or Uber.. she just finds a way to get here, god bless her she is magnificent. Cleaned the apartment excellently as usual, without need for instruction or re-direction, for about 2.5 hours.. then rocked the Earth "en cama" for about 2 more hours.
For what it's worth, Italy announced today it is banning travelers originating from Colombia.
With regards to the EU, I said that they opened up their borders. Not to everyone but certain countries yes. The US closed borders with the EU first, and the EU followed after. For the EU to open borders, the US must drop the restrictions first. People easily assume it's because of the high number of cases in the US, but be serious. If the US announced tomorrow that borders are reopening, the EU will drop their restrictions. And the EU has requested the US do this, the largest airlines in the EU especially. Tourism in Colombia is growing, I saw someone mention 3. 8% GDP but record number of visitors last year, and more were expected this year. Lots of jobs depend on tourism from the US to surrounding countries in Latin America. To imply that it makes no difference to the economy if borders opened up is simply not true.
With herd immunity, this is being achieved at approximately 20%. Most recent studies indicate that the burnout rate is between 15-20% before cases start dropping. This was the case in NY especially, and also in Sweden. In the coming days / weeks you'll see cases dropping in FL, TX, AZ, GA etc. And it will be due to this. The rest of the country will see the reductions in early September from my calculations, before it is basically a national burnout.
Elvis 2008
08-13-20, 22:11
If opening up the borders to International travel represents a "tiny blip" on the economic radar, than why open at all. Granted that tourism accounts for a small portion of their GDP, what about other aspects of the economy that have been impacted by being closed. I would venture to guess the effect is much greater than 3. 8% represented for tourism and will drive the re-opening versus all of us mongers wanting to return as you have mentioned.Surfer, it is not a tiny blip. It is JJBee showing he understands nothing with business or economics. JJBee's approach is that the economy will bounce back. It did in 2009, and it will today. What he is oblivious to is that the USA Debt had to be doubled for the recovery to occur. So yeah, it is no problem seeing your lifestyle go down when you just pull out the credit card and rack up the charges. The issue with Colombia is a does not have a printing press and a credit rating like the USA does.
The idea that you stopping travel results in just loss of tourism dollars is ridiculous. Tickets and accommodations are probably half or less than half of what I spend when going to Colombia, but the other part of travel with Colombia is with business people investing in Colombia which is truly what it sorely needs. Maybe people invest without seeing things first but that certainly is not the case all the time.
The thing is that political leaders have asked for sacrifice under the guise that said sacrifice will pay off in lives saved. Well, has it? I don't see that banning international travel has accomplished anything for Colombia outside of airlines going broke and everyone in the industry losing their jobs.
The point is that politicians hate to admit they are wrong and IMO are slow to admit it. Banning international travel was not done based on evidence. Once you have a virus spreading domestically, what good does banning international travel do? It was just one of those things that was believed to work and other countries copied it but when the evidence shows traveling is safe, it is like you have to definitively prove that travel is safe even though it was never proven unsafe before.
For better or worse, America sets the agenda world wide, and our Covid "czar" is Anthony Fauci. Now, JJBee went off on this because it is Fox News and anytime Fauci screws up, apologists like JJBee say it is taken out of context. But forget the political angle and just look at this clip with your own eyes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOSFbmyF_w.
Now I have a family relative in politics, and she wanted to take a trip to celebrate her anniversary and decided against it. I told her it was safe based on the data, but she said that she wanted to set a good community example and did not go.
So here is Fauci: maskless, in a public gathering, not social distancing, yucking it up. He is laughing with his friends and then says he was drinking water because he was "totally dehydrated". That is fucking bullshit, totally dehydrated people do not smile like that. He then shows real guilt when he scorns anyone criticizing him.
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Several people seem to think opening up Colombia for international travel will solve all of Colombia's economic problems. I'm trying to understand that.
Then this thought popped up: What are all those tourists supposed to do? Where are they going to spend their money? Let's put the mongering dollars aside, because it's unlikely the government is about to sanction and encourage sex tourism. What about the actual tourists? Aren't most attractions still closed? Aren't the bars closed? Malls? Tours? Theaters? Restaurants?
I'm just wondering how that almighty tourism is going to boost the economy if the tourists have no place to spend their money?
MarquisdeSade1
08-13-20, 22:49
If opening up the borders to International travel represents a "tiny blip" on the economic radar, than why open at all. Granted that tourism accounts for a small portion of their GDP, what about other aspects of the economy that have been impacted by being closed. I would venture to guess the effect is much greater than 3. 8% represented for tourism and will drive the re-opening versus all of us mongers wanting to return as you have mentioned.Their economy is bleeding, so let an easy 3.8% bump in, it could even feel like 38% LOL.
If the virus is rampant, where's the down side for them.
I seriously doubt older mongers are going to make virus matters worse.
GeneHickman
08-14-20, 05:42
Pinky asked when we could see each other, yesterday afternoon. She came over around 630p. I grilled some steaks, we had a bottle of wine. She wanted some tussi. Our contact wasn't responding, so she showed me some other contact on WhatsApp that sends out a list of maybe 50 things you can order. It was a bit expensive, compared to others. I received a message from a repeat the other day, asking when we'll see each other. I was with her once, a couple months ago. She's from La Diabla's list. I know she likes to party, so I asked her if she wanted to come over and bring some tussi. She gets it for 45k, which is about 60% of most options. I was a little nervous, as was Pinky, because of the price. It turned out to be fine, but with a bit of a burning sensation and a shitty peach scent / flavor.
I had told her not to come, because she said she would have it delivered, then she would bring it. I figured she would arrive at 12 and I didn't want to start so late. She arrived at 11 p. Standard procedure. She was fun and the girls hit it off. In total, I paid her 350k for 3 grams + her. Pinky also bought a gram, herself. She just left about an hour ago. Pinky also took 20k for a taxi, and her Uber was 15k, yesterday. Good times. Pinky without condom, other girl with.Slapshot, thanks for the reports. An invaluable contribution and an escape for many of us mongers during this constricting time. I for one like your long stories, and the pictures, don't let the odd comment crimp your style. You are living the dream from many of our perspective.
Man, those bikinis are worth their cost and them some. They show well on the sexy puta bodies and its apparent even just on the pics. Do let us know how it turned out with pinky and her preggie story.
Stay healthy and keep the reports coming.
Is that building currently open?Should be. It's a regular apartment building with some airbnbs.
Elvis 2008
08-14-20, 06:49
Several people seem to think opening up Colombia for international travel will solve all of Colombia's economic problems. I'm trying to understand that. What are all those tourists supposed to do? Where are they going to spend their money? Let's put the mongering dollars aside, because it's unlikely the government is about to sanction and encourage sex tourism.Oh, sure let's do that. Colombia's #1 export is oil, and ConocoPhillips operates there. Do you know how oil and gas works?
Well, here is how it goes. The American oil company, COP, just hands money over to Colombians and says "We want oil" and the Colombians just produce it. It is not like anyone from America needs to go there and do any work or monitor anything.
I know a Colombian woman or two that you could hand money to right now, JJBee, and they will be producing you oil in no time.
If opening up the borders to International travel represents a "tiny blip" on the economic radar, than why open at all. Granted that tourism accounts for a small portion of their GDP, what about other aspects of the economy that have been impacted by being closed. I would venture to guess the effect is much greater than 3. 8% represented for tourism and will drive the re-opening versus all of us mongers wanting to return as you have mentioned.My argument is that the impact of a controlled reopening of international flights to the virus spread is nearly zero, but it has lots of benefits.
Let do a simple hypothetical; if the entry requirement is the following: passengers must fly in from a country with COVID totally under control and must show a negative test result within 24-hours of boarding the plane. They must go through a mandatory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival and purchase health insurance in Medellin. Moreover, they must pay for all costs associated with compulsory quarantine. Then I can confidently say the impact on the virus spread from this group of travelers is zero. It allows them to set up and test-out safety protocols for the next phase of reopening; furthermore, if the travelers are willing to pay for the personal cost for the self-quarantine, it also creates jobs for the local people.
People who are willing to comply with this kind of scrutiny to travel to Medellin must either hopelessly in love with the 18-year-old paisas or trying to build important businesses in Medellin that are beneficial to the local economy (I'm doing both, but 18-year-old pussy is my real motivation). They are not the group who are infected with COVID and trying to spread to the local population.
Suppose President Duque announces tomorrow that business visa holder in Australia is the only group that will be allowed to fly to Medellin on September 1st. I will call my lawyer immediately and ask him to send all my documents to Sydney's Colombia Embassy. I will then fly from the USA To the you. K. , one of the few countries you can still legally fly to from the USA, then self-quarantine there for 14-days, as per requirement. Then from the you. K. , I will fly to Sydney. I will wait until they approve my visa, then from Sydney, I will fly to Medellin (a. K. a heaven), I'm willing to go through whatever quarantine requirement the Colombian government put in place.
I'm in my late 30's, completely healthy; I fucking run multiple marathons each year. I can produce a negative COVID test result within 24-hours before I board the plane; I can show that I have money in my account to pay whatever medical bills that might occur in Colombia, and I'm going there to educate a bunch of PhDs. I really can't think of any reason why the Colombian government won't let me in on September 1st.
Several people seem to think opening up Colombia for international travel will solve all of Colombia's economic problems. I'm trying to understand that.
Then this thought popped up: What are all those tourists supposed to do? Where are they going to spend their money? Let's put the mongering dollars aside, because it's unlikely the government is about to sanction and encourage sex tourism. What about the actual tourists? Aren't most attractions still closed? Aren't the bars closed? Malls? Tours? Theaters? Restaurants?
I'm just wondering how that almighty tourism is going to boost the economy if the tourists have no place to spend their money?For tourists to spend money, the economy needs to open up. Colombia up until now has been rather slow to do this, but the more sectors of the economy they open up, even if in phases then it leads to the eventual tourism sector opening. Since they started to accept that this is something which they'll need to live with (there are only 150 viruses circulating every year), they are taking steps to open, albeit slow and at times nonsense (the only domestic flight is from Cucuta to Bucaramanga, because they have very low cases) the government realizes if they don't open it's going to create a lot more problems than ever imagined. A couple more domestic routes open up on September 1, and not even all airlines but it's a start. Airports filed for reopening in July but didn't receive approval until this week. Avianca bankrupt, LATAM bankrupt, etc. Keeping all those planes on the ground has taken its toll far worse than they could have imagined. We'll see what the coming weeks bring, Colombia locked down way too early and with the border closed, the results today show that lockdowns do not work and create more problems. The simple thinking of "everyone stay home for a couple months, then we'll open certain days to shop for certain people, masks are mandatory etc. " what did they accomplish? Nothing. Literally, nothing. And many people I know in Bogota and Medellin have told me they are absolutely sick and tired of this dragging on as long as it has.
SlapShot10
08-14-20, 15:51
Do let us know how it turned out with pinky and her preggie story.
Didn't Pinky give you a pregnancy scare. Or was it Wifey? What's the update there?I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.
Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.
Teaser for tonight...
Gringo Trooper
08-14-20, 15:52
the economy needs to open up.You're right. This thing has a. 04% mortality rate.
But sure let's F up Colombia (and the world's) economies by shutting down, just so a few 90 year olds can live a few extra years.
Gringo Trooper
08-14-20, 15:55
Very nice talent you got there. Why don't you just buy a pregnancy test for 5 bucks (or whatever it costs down there) and make her take it in front of you? Easy peasy bruh.
I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.
Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.
Teaser for tonight...
MarquisdeSade1
08-14-20, 16:06
I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.
Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.
Teaser for tonight...Can you unblur her face for once.
A body is good, but as most will agree the face is more important.
A girl with a 10 body and 6-7 face is not what I want.
A girl with a 10 body and a 6-7 face is mother nature giving men the middle finger.
Should be. It's a regular apartment building with some airbnbs.What you said is true. Some of the units are owned and people live there. So the building is open. I was over there inquiring a while back. But the story (then) was that they were not allowing visitors at that time.
I would check that having visitors over is allowed now before renting.
The director of Colombia's civil aviation authority Aerocivil said Wednesday that it will take at least a year to normalize domestic and international air travel.
In an interview with newspaper El Espectador, Aerocivil director Juan Carlos Salazar said that "in the best case scenario it will take us at least a year" to normalize air traffic.
Salazar's best case scenario implies that Aerocivil's plans that were leaked last month and sought the normalization of international air traffic in November are off the table.
According to the Aerocivil chief, Colombia's national government will lift its international flight ban on September 1 as planned, but the effective resumption of flights depends on foreign governments and mayors.
Resuming that operation depends on many factors that are not under the control of the Civil Aeronautics and even the National Government, because we also have to wait for the decisions of other countries.
MarquisdeSade1
08-14-20, 18:04
I posted about this, maybe a couple pages back, now. However, it was mostly in Spanish, so maybe some did not understand.
Pinky said she took another test and it was negative. So, despite her thinking she should take a blood test, I believe within a week she should have her period, and we'll be in the clear.
Teaser for tonight...In Latin America Europe USA I think the 8's are my nexus / sweet spot for personality looks and fucking.
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2011/07/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-twenty-first-birthday/
Blakman, does the second hand translated source you quote compare and contrast "normalize" and "resume"? They are not necessarily the same thing. The Ministry of Transportation and the President have official announcements on the government web site. That is the place to find useful information on this subject. What the government has confirmed so far is that pilot flights between selected domestic cities will resume September 1. Bogota is among the cities. This was confirmed by the Bogota mayor today. Among the other confirmed destinations are Cucuta and San Andres. That is what is known at this point.
Now we can get back to speculation and maybe some more of slapshot's content.
The director of Colombia's civil aviation authority Aerocivil said Wednesday that it will take at least a year to normalize domestic and international air travel.
In an interview with newspaper El Espectador, Aerocivil director Juan Carlos Salazar said that "in the best case scenario it will take us at least a year" to normalize air traffic.
Salazar's best case scenario implies that Aerocivil's plans that were leaked last month and sought the normalization of international air traffic in November are off the table.
According to the Aerocivil chief, Colombia's national government will lift its international flight ban on September 1 as planned, but the effective resumption of flights depends on foreign governments and mayors.
Resuming that operation depends on many factors that are not under the control of the Civil Aeronautics and even the National Government, because we also have to wait for the decisions of other countries.
For tourists to spend money, the economy needs to open up. Colombia up until now has been rather slow to do this, but the more sectors of the economy they open up, even if in phases then it leads to the eventual tourism sector opening. Since they started to accept that this is something which they'll need to live with (there are only 150 viruses circulating every year), they are taking steps to open, albeit slow and at times nonsense (the only domestic flight is from Cucuta to Bucaramanga, because they have very low cases) the government realizes if they don't open it's going to create a lot more problems than ever imagined. A couple more domestic routes open up on September 1, and not even all airlines but it's a start. Airports filed for reopening in July but didn't receive approval until this week. Avianca bankrupt, LATAM bankrupt, etc. Keeping all those planes on the ground has taken its toll far worse than they could have imagined. We'll see what the coming weeks bring, Colombia locked down way too early and with the border closed, the results today show that lockdowns do not work and create more problems. The simple thinking of "everyone stay home for a couple months, then we'll open certain days to shop for certain people, masks are mandatory etc. " what did they accomplish? Nothing. Literally, nothing. And many people I know in Bogota and Medellin have told me they are absolutely sick and tired of this dragging on as long as it has.Unfortunately the lock downs in Colombia have not been as effective as in other Countries as evidenced by the trending numbers to date. Everything is going up like a rocket ship headed to the moon.
Tourism, well it's really a drop in the bucket for Colombia, what needs to happen is for the economy to open back up so the residents can spend money and revive things. Unfortunately, if they do so, things will get worse than they are now as evidenced by other Countries and in the USA that have opened up pre-maturely. The lockdowns have been effective in Countries with authoritarian rule, or citizens that abide by them, and have been less effective in third world countries.
It's very sad, and a no win situation for Colombia at the current time. I remember the evening of March 13, a Friday night in Parque Lleras and Provenza. Things were in full swing as though nothing was wrong in the world, with all of the eating places, nightclubs, and bars overflowing. Then this all came to a screeching halt and has decimated things there, with places shuttered, and business's folding right and left. And the reality is that the majority of the patrons are Colombians, not tourists, which a lot of people think.
This is just my opinion of things which many may disagree with.
Oh, sure let's do that. Colombia's #1 export is oil, and ConocoPhillips operates there. Do you know how oil and gas works?
Well, here is how it goes. The American oil company, COP, just hands money over to Colombians and says "We want oil" and the Colombians just produce it. It is not like anyone from America needs to go there and do any work or monitor anything.
I know a Colombian woman or two that you could hand money to right now, JJBee, and they will be producing you oil in no time.I guess I never realized that all the petroleum engineers from the US commute daily from their homes in the US to the countries where they work. I had always thought they lived in those countries for extended periods of time. Seems to be cheaper to pay a per diem rather than daily round trip airfare. I can't imagine the guys who work in the middle East. They're literally never leaving the airport in either country. Even the average of 8 hours each way daily to get to and from the oilfields in Colombia has to really suck.
But just think of the frequent flyer miles.
How are those oil companies making any money? Seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if they did what we already know they do? Have workers do a 3, 6 or 12 month tour in the country and then rotate out? In that case, whether international travel is open or closed has no major effect. Their workers and monitors are already in Colombia.
I don't know this for certain, but I suspect that if ConocoPhillips needs to bring one of their corporate jets into Villavicencio with some of their people, they know who to call to get the authorization.
But my question wasn't about ConocoPhillips. Up to this point, nobody has mentioned them. Everyone has been talking about the benefits of opening up tourism. If I'm not mistaken, you have made that claim more than once. My question remains, what are those tourists going to spend their money on?
In order for the tourist to benefit the economy, the tourist needs to spend money. If you assume a cost of screening arrivals, just renting an apartment and ordering Rappi every day isn't going to do much. They need guys like SJobs dropping $700 nightly in Gusto along with another $700 for the gray market through drugs and pussy. They need the guys spending $500 a day in Cartagena and Bogota. They need the tourists buying everything from diamonds to leather goods. They need house parties in Guatape and loaded tour buses in Eje Cafetero.
But Gusto is closed and the tour buses are parked. What are the tourists going to do? Except for SJobs. He's going to be loading up on Tussi and 18 year old pussy. What about the rest of them? What about the ones booking at the Charlee or Hotel Du Park Royale? With Parque Lleras closed, what are they going to do?
Back to my question.
Where are the Tourists going to spend their money?
My argument is that the impact of a controlled reopening of international flights to the virus spread is nearly zero, but it has lots of benefits.
Let do a simple hypothetical; if the entry requirement is the following: passengers must fly in from a country with COVID totally under control and must show a negative test result within 24-hours of boarding the plane. They must go through a mandatory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival and purchase health insurance in Medellin. Moreover, they must pay for all costs associated with compulsory quarantine. Then I can confidently say the impact on the virus spread from this group of travelers is zero. It allows them to set up and test-out safety protocols for the next phase of reopening; furthermore, if the travelers are willing to pay for the personal cost for the self-quarantine, it also creates jobs for the local people.
People who are willing to comply with this kind of scrutiny to travel to Medellin must either hopelessly in love with the 18-year-old paisas or trying to build important businesses in Medellin that are beneficial to the local economy (I'm doing both, but 18-year-old pussy is my real motivation). They are not the group who are infected with COVID and trying to spread to the local population..I can think of one reason why the Colombian government won't let you in on September 1st. They don't know you.
I understand you want to get to Medellin, desperately. Colombia doesn't seem to care about your need to plow 18 year old Colombian pussy. I don't understand why they don't recognize your need.
Based upon the entry requirements you listed, how many passengers do you think they could expect daily? Ask the board. How many of the guys here are willing to:
1. Buy Colombian health insurance.
2. Pay for preflight and post quarantine testing.
3. Quarantine for 14 days.
4. Pay for 24 hour monitoring to ensure they don't break quarantine.
Some of the guys freak out if somebody buys a working girl dinner.
Under the conditions you propose, I'm not seeing a huge demand. But I'm seeing significant costs for Colombia. They need extra staff at every airport to check test results, take temperatures and verify valid Colombian health insurance. They need an isolation area to separate the arrivals waiting for processing from everyone else. They need some system to monitor everyone who is in quarantine. They need to figure out transportation. You can't just hop in a taxi to go to your quarantine and have the taxi driver go about his business. Then there's the monitoring of the monitors who make sure you don't break quarantine.
See'Mon. You do all those things and you're in Medellin, in your penthouse and you're going to twiddle your thumbs for 14 days? I'm not buying it. By day 2 you've got girls coming over. If security won't let them in, you slip them enough money to look the other way. You might even hire a helicopter to drop them on the roof.
Why don't you just do what I suggested? Go to a Colombian consulate. Explain to them your business need to be in Colombia. Offer to meet or exceed any quarantine and testing requirement. Then ask if there's any way to get a special travel permit. It costs nothing to ask. There's a consulate in San Francisco.
For tourists to spend money, the economy needs to open up. Colombia up until now has been rather slow to do this, but the more sectors of the economy they open up, even if in phases then it leads to the eventual tourism sector opening. Since they started to accept that this is something which they'll need to live with (there are only 150 viruses circulating every year), they are taking steps to open, albeit slow and at times nonsense (the only domestic flight is from Cucuta to Bucaramanga, because they have very low cases) the government realizes if they don't open it's going to create a lot more problems than ever imagined. A couple more domestic routes open up on September 1, and not even all airlines but it's a start. Airports filed for reopening in July but didn't receive approval until this week. Avianca bankrupt, LATAM bankrupt, etc. Keeping all those planes on the ground has taken its toll far worse than they could have imagined. We'll see what the coming weeks bring, Colombia locked down way too early and with the border closed, the results today show that lockdowns do not work and create more problems. The simple thinking of "everyone stay home for a couple months, then we'll open certain days to shop for certain people, masks are mandatory etc. " what did they accomplish? Nothing. Literally, nothing. And many people I know in Bogota and Medellin have told me they are absolutely sick and tired of this dragging on as long as it has.A lockdown doesn't work if the majority don't lock down. Other than a few days at the beginning, Colombia didn't lock down. We've had almost daily reports of the crowds in El Centro.
I agree fully that the country has to open up before there's anything for the tourists to do. Colombia will do that, for better or worse, at their own pace. Speculation, rationalization and wishful thinking isn't going to make a difference.
Elvis 2008
08-14-20, 22:44
In Latin America Europe USA I think the 8's are my nexus / sweet spot for personality looks and fucking.
https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/readers-submissions/2011/07/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-twenty-first-birthday/Great link, MDS. Thing is that you may want different things with a working girl, SB, and GF / wife, but it is a great incredibly wise read. Honestly, if I had read that at 21, I would have considered it but ignored it.
But I'm seeing significant costs for Colombia. They need extra staff at every airport to check test results, take temperatures and verify valid Colombian health insurance. They need an isolation area to separate the arrivals waiting for processing from everyone else. They need some system to monitor everyone who is in quarantine. They need to figure out transportation. You can't just hop in a taxi to go to your quarantine and have the taxi driver go about his business. Then there's the monitoring of the monitors who make sure you don't break quarantine.The cost won't be that high because the airport won't operate at full capacity. They can reassign their existing idle staffs to different tasks. They can charge a fee for the special visa that covers the cost. Upon landing, SJ will be required to buy a SIM card at the gate and verify it is working on his phone for tracking purpose. He will be penalized USD10 K if his phone is off or his phone is not with him.
Retrain taxi for transportation so the driver can have income without much additional expense to the government. SJ has to be in a place with 24 hours doorman. He will be penalized for USD 20 K if he violates the term of self isolation and USD 10 K will go to the doorman who reports the violation. Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.
Elvis 2008
08-15-20, 00:38
Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.Another good post, Nounce. Yeah, in Cancun, they actually have a structure that you walk through and it measures temperatures automatically. Hotel costs are down due to so many empty rooms and air fares were cheap, so there is room to push up fares to compensate for services. In Cancun, the all inclusive pretty much had everything open including the gyms which my chicas loved and they even had nightly entertainment. They disinfected the rooms, common areas, and luggage like crazy, and some restaurants were shut down. The irony is the flight cost to Mexico City. It is 3 X the cost of flights to Cancun because so many airlines have been cut back on flights. I wonder if we see the same in Colombia.
As far as what to do in Colombia, I laughed at that because I asked the same of Barranquilla. What is there to do besides fuck incredibly hot and sexual chicas? And I was told pretty much nothing. Still, I think there is a market for going somewhere to fuck, eat good food, hang in the sun, talk to cool women, and let Netflix be your entertainment. Maybe BAQ can equal Medellin now as a sex destination given both places are going to have little to do.
Where have lockdowns been effective? I remember New Zealand, Australia, and even Medellin declaring their lockdowns effective but everybody now knows they were premature to do so. Europe, especially France, Spain, and Italy, saw infections slow down but reports indicate they are on the way back up. I wonder if world leaders haven't decided amongst themselves to make no announcements but maintain ongoing curfews and quarantines until there is an effective treatment or vaccine. That would be the most politically convenient tactic.
Unfortunately the lock downs in Colombia have not been as effective as in other Countries as evidenced by the trending numbers to date. Everything is going up like a rocket ship headed to the moon.
Tourism, well it's really a drop in the bucket for Colombia, what needs to happen is for the economy to open back up so the residents can spend money and revive things. Unfortunately, if they do so, things will get worse than they are now as evidenced by other Countries and in the USA that have opened up pre-maturely. The lockdowns have been effective in Countries with authoritarian rule, or citizens that abide by them, and have been less effective in third world countries.
It's very sad, and a no win situation for Colombia at the current time. I remember the evening of March 13, a Friday night in Parque Lleras and Provenza. Things were in full swing as though nothing was wrong in the world, with all of the eating places, nightclubs, and bars overflowing. Then this all came to a screeching halt and has decimated things there, with places shuttered, and business's folding right and left. And the reality is that the majority of the patrons are Colombians, not tourists, which a lot of people think.
This is just my opinion of things which many may disagree with.
Not sure what you mean in your post? What is SJ. ? And where did you get these USD numbers?
The cost won't be that high because the airport won't operate at full capacity. They can reassign their existing idle staffs to different tasks. They can charge a fee for the special visa that covers the cost. Upon landing, SJ will be required to buy a SIM card at the gate and verify it is working on his phone for tracking purpose. He will be penalized USD10 K if his phone is off or his phone is not with him.
Retrain taxi for transportation so the driver can have income without much additional expense to the government. SJ has to be in a place with 24 hours doorman. He will be penalized for USD 20 K if he violates the term of self isolation and USD 10 K will go to the doorman who reports the violation. Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.
The cost won't be that high because the airport won't operate at full capacity. They can reassign their existing idle staffs to different tasks. They can charge a fee for the special visa that covers the cost. Upon landing, SJ will be required to buy a SIM card at the gate and verify it is working on his phone for tracking purpose. He will be penalized USD10 K if his phone is off or his phone is not with him.
Retrain taxi for transportation so the driver can have income without much additional expense to the government. SJ has to be in a place with 24 hours doorman. He will be penalized for USD 20 K if he violates the term of self isolation and USD 10 K will go to the doorman who reports the violation. Use your imagination, it is not that difficult they have competent staffs to perform these tasks.But they aren't interested in "using their imagination" when so little of the economy is based on tourism. Costa Rica is much more reliant on tourism, and they in fact have set up a system for allowing tourists in, but not surprisingly have excluded the US. Rather than fantasizing about the way things "ought to be" SteveJobs should be planning a vacation someplace else, like Tijuana or the Dominican Republic.
Not sure what you mean in your post? What is SJ. ? And where did you get these USD numbers?SJobs.
The numbers are random, just an idea how it can be done with minimal or no cost using the existing employees that have already been paid to do nothing in lockdown.
In that case, I have to disagree with you and agree with Sjobs and JBee. In the beginning some airport employees may be able to fill in the gap but with more tourist coming back new personnel will need to be hired. No different than the increased airport security since 9/11. As with doormen acting as bounty hunters looking to collect money, if that were to happen It would stop many people from even going to Colombia or anywhere else. This is all speculation of course. Hopefully by early 2021 we can go back to paradise
SJobs.
The numbers are random, just an idea how it can be done with minimal or no cost using the existing employees that have already been paid to do nothing in lockdown..
In that case, I have to disagree with you and agree with Sjobs and JBee. In the beginning some airport employees may be able to fill in the gap but with more tourist coming back new personnel will need to be hired. No different than the increased airport security since 9/11. As with doormen acting as bounty hunters looking to collect money, if that were to happen It would stop many people from even going to Colombia or anywhere else. This is all speculation of course. Hopefully by early 2021 we can go back to paradise
.There are very few people will apply for the special visa to go to a country with virus not under control. Most tourists want to stay in countries without virus. And I see expats trying to get into those countries with special visas if they are not in it already. Beside the visa requirement, there are some natural constraints in place to prevent too many tourists. For example, the quarantine housing must be approved by government. This will limit supply and increase the cost. Do you think flight attendants wants to work on these routes or stay at home if they have a choice? Basically everything will be more expensive and operating at lower capacity.
These two statements are incompatible so I think you actually are agreeing with me based on the second conclusion. I am speaking under the assumption that people who visit will follow the rules. I think if they catch people who visit but don't follow the rules, they will fix it by making it unpleasant for everyone qualified. A single bad apple can ruin the whole thing. This happened in Thailand already.
In that case, I have to disagree with you and agree with Sjobs and JBee. In the beginning some airport employees may be able to fill in the gap but with more tourist coming back new personnel will need to be hired
As with doormen acting as bounty hunters looking to collect money, if that were to happen It would stop many people from even going to Colombia or anywhere else.
...........Then this thought popped up: What are all those tourists supposed to do? Where are they going to spend their money? Let's put the mongering dollars aside, because it's unlikely the government is about to sanction and encourage sex tourism. What about the actual tourists? Aren't most attractions still closed? Aren't the bars closed? Malls? Tours? Theaters? Restaurants?...........I won't travel to any country until the entire tourist sector is open. I do not travel for sex alone. I travel to partake in all that is on offer to the visitor including sex.
Where have lockdowns been effective? I remember New Zealand, Australia, and even Medellin declaring their lockdowns effective but everybody now knows they were premature to do so. Europe, especially France, Spain, and Italy, saw infections slow down but reports indicate they are on the way back up. I wonder if world leaders haven't decided amongst themselves to make no announcements but maintain ongoing curfews and quarantines until there is an effective treatment or vaccine. That would be the most politically convenient tactic.Lockdowns have been effective in China, yet the enforcement actions they took would never fly in most Countries. Unfortunately it appears that all that can be done for the time being is try to throttle and maintain the virus where possible until there are effective treatments and a vaccine as you mention.
But they aren't interested in "using their imagination" when so little of the economy is based on tourism. Costa Rica is much more reliant on tourism, and they in fact have set up a system for allowing tourists in, but not surprisingly have excluded the US. Rather than fantasizing about the way things "ought to be" SteveJobs should be planning a vacation someplace else, like Tijuana or the Dominican Republic.I suggested to SJ going to Tijuana a while back and he wasn't interested. Last Sunday I parked my car at the border in San Ysidro, California and walked into Mexico. I presented my Passport Card, was asked where I was going, told them I had a dental appointment on Monday and was given a tourist card, they then took my temperature, I got in a cab and ten minutes later checked into a Hotel where one of my Chicas was waiting for me in Reception.
SJ could easily do the same if he wanted to, albeit the offerings aren't going to be as nice as in Medellin, but it would at least give him a pause until Colombia opens back up, at least it has for me.
SlapShot10
08-15-20, 18:06
Very nice talent you got there. Why don't you just buy a pregnancy test for 5 bucks (or whatever it costs down there) and make her take it in front of you? Easy peasy bruh.
I wasn't too concerned. What's a pregnancy test going to tell me that I can't find out 10 days later by a period? Either way, it's not a Plan B scenario. I'm typically in no rush for bad news.
Can you unblur her face for once.
A body is good, but as most will agree the face is more important.
A girl with a 10 body and 6-7 face is not what I want.
A girl with a 10 body and a 6-7 face is mother nature giving men the middle finger.
No. I got blown up years ago by a BM who told a chica about her photo being in the forum. So, you'll just have to use your imagination. I'll try to be more descriptive about the face, if that helps. This one had a cute baby face, big dark eyes.
Last night: 300k for 2 pops, good head, condom sex, 5 hours. The fucking worker that came over as I was cleaning the jacuzzi was checking it for no good reason, and then left the pipe open to drain it. I didn't realize until I got back from the grocery store at 630p. So, no jacuzzi last night, but she'll be back to use it in the future. This is an SA girl from Itagui that has been overly-cautious, or maybe I should say, locked down by her family. Handful size boobs, nice ass, good sex, and pretty carinosa. She asked a ton of questions about Wifey, threesomes, etc. She likes techno music, hates tussi, loves everything but tussi, and UFC. She said she's ok with threesomes, but she won't go down on a girl Her price point is too high to make her a regular, and she doesn't provide anything special that the others don't. She has a nice semi-pro vibe, though.
The SA girl from bumfuck norte is definitely looking for a gringo husband, in my opinion. She's the one who was in love, couldn't talk to me anymore, then asked to come over, blah blah blah. She gets super jealous, had a gringo boyfriend in the past, needs a lot of attention, and likes the push-pull routine. All that said, man is she a great fuck and she loves to deep throat.
Might just take it easy this weekend. I'm contemplating what to do when my Sep 5 rent is up. The manager asked if I will extend because, again, "some people are very interested. " I have to imagine that's complete bullshit, but whatever. She's doing her job, but I'd pay double if she offered me a night with her sister. Anyhow. I have been thinking, IF DOMESTIC TRAVEL OPENS, to go to a couple places I haven't been: Pereira, Cali, San Andres. I'm just not sure if it's wise to uproot, lug around all my crap, and be in an unfamiliar place. Although, based on SA and Instagram, I really think Pereira could be a hidden gem for chicks, and off the beaten path. If everything is in lockdown, maybe it's better to just stay where I'm comfortable. I might go back to the US, but if there aren't any indicators of things improving, I just don't see a reason to. Anyone else in a similar position, or have any experience in the locations I mentioned? I think San Andres would be best if I brought a chica, but Pereira / Cali would be a different trip.
Cheers & Happy Weekend.
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