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Blakman
10-23-20, 01:15
Told her I am in love with her. Come visit me when I arrive no charge. She said yes. So then I ask really are you sure. But flashed a very stylish heels I bought for $10. And she confirmed yes. You are a genius. You are my go to guy from now on. Surfer and Jjbee is fired LOL.


That is what I should have said. I am afraid of a scorn woman so I try to be as honest as possible. Maybe I need to acquire that skill so I can be an elite mongerer LOL.

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Surfer500
10-23-20, 01:20
Ding ding ding. Coming out swinging and Hitting below the belt. Taking a cheap shot. Honestly I do not like licking ass. But thisvery hygenic 8, legit 8 maybe a 7, who sloppy toppy, wears sexy lingerie, cook for me, charged me 300 k for a week, strip dance on my table and was always ready for sex, records us having sex, shakes her nice booty in front of your face. Hey the freak comes out. And I licked that freshly washed ass. I think its call passionate sex. I hope I explain myself well. Blakman out LOL.Your tempting me, I have one gal who I call the Indian Princess who's ass I could see licking, so I totally get where your coming from in the heat of the moment. However, I'm not sure how many board members would of surmised it was you, so you have kinda come out of the closet (again) as an ass licker, but I will probably be joining your club so don't sweat it like you did last time when I called you on it!

Wolf662
10-23-20, 01:29
And I have others to try, but I want to focus on the very good looking ones. I'm tired of mediocre experiences with girls I could potentially have for free. I want to fuck at least 2 very hot girls. The nurse can be one of them, but I have 3 more in the radar. I will do my best to justify this expensive trip, and the next month, maybe it will be Africa.My advise is to check out Fase Dos strip club on a Fri / Sat after 11 pm, can be over 50 girls, with the top 5 being "WOW".

http://clubfasedos.com/site/

Also the Isla strip club. If you hit it off after a test run at the club, make a date with her for the next night.

Luminus
10-23-20, 01:38
Don't be too quick to fire anybody, LOL, I'm fairly new to the game but treating them right, showing a bit of care and emotion seems to open doors and the chicka's drink it up.


Told her I am in love with her. Come visit me when I arrive no charge. She said yes. So then I ask really are you sure. But flashed a very stylish heels I bought for $10. And she confirmed yes. You are a genius. You are my go to guy from now on. Surfer and Jjbee is fired LOL.

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Blakman
10-23-20, 01:40
They fired LOL. Your advice didnt cost me a dime. Your this cheapy charlie type of guy.


Don't be too quick to fire anybody, LOL, I'm fairly new to the game but treating them right, showing a bit of care and emotion seems to open doors and the chicka's drink it up..

Knowledge
10-23-20, 02:42
Yes. Enjoy your visit.


Just a quick question for anyone currently in Medellin. I plan to travel to Medellin in the coming weeks. Are the Casas open? I could not find any recent report on here to confirm. If they are open, are they taking any precautions (temperature checks, etc.)? Any help in answering my questions are appreciated.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 03:45
The last girl I saw in COL was the most lame and boring experience. This girl retired the mannshaft. The manager and 4 players gone. I'm definitely going to go back to jerking off to the porn videos. I may retire to the countrySide to tend sheep. If any of my old girl contact me I may suggest they pay me for my time from now on. LOL.

Surfer500
10-23-20, 04:06
The last girl I saw in COL was the most lame and boring experience. This girl retired the mannshaft. The manager and 4 players gone. I'm definitely going to go back to jerking off to the porn videos. I may retire to the countrySide to tend sheep. If any of my old girl contact me I may suggest they pay me for my time from now on. LOL.It's a sad state of affairs here which I blame on the Pandemic if board members have been driven to pay for videos, and are considering bonking animals.

GeneHickman
10-23-20, 05:18
Do I play hardball, do I compromise, or do I fold to a female I see as very impressive and spend. I text my 8 I have no money and I am coming soon. She says I want you to have lots of sex with me LOL. She's been getting treated very well lately based on her status and trip out the country. I repeated. I have no money. I cannot pay alot. She said well do you love me LOL. I didn't know what to say cause I am not a good liar. So I said I need to see you first. She stop texting LOL

.She knows if you can buy a ticket to get your cheap ass there, you got money.

Osteoknot
10-23-20, 05:29
Hi there,

Hopefully I can come to Medellin next year. I started to learn some Spanish and want to continue when I am finally here.

My motivation is higher, when my teacher is an attractive woman. You know anyone who gives private lessons and does not mind a flirt (or more)?Spanish lessons and would fuck you at the same time. The Spanish lessons were legit, with regular times and lesson plans, but they emphasized "mongering" language from the start, I-kid-you-not, along side the traditional content. They had a brick and mortar office on one of the side streets off Avenida 70. I could get you within a 5 block radius but I never went there he just told me about it. Can't ask him, he decided to check out while in Medellin, permanently. He fucked the business owner and teacher for nominally more than the Spanish lessons and they practiced Dirty Talk in Spanish, while in bed. She also hooked him up with a couple of girls. I like the business model, maybe there's more than one of them. But it could be tricky calling up a business that advertises Spanish lessons and asking, "BTW, will the teachers fuck the students?" Jjajajaja I just remembered this business did a lot of other things besides Spanish lessons and fuck. They specialized in helping Gringos assimilate to Medellin. Stuff like intermediary for apartment hunting and help with leases, shopping, cell phone activation, maid service, I don't think they did visas. . . I saw their menu one time. Good luck.

JjBee62
10-23-20, 05:32
No, of course not, I love flacas and there are plenty to be had. Everything from $10 little skinny street to chicks that are close to nines and 10's to me like Estrella and Allison from the higher end strip club Fase Dos.There appears to be some confusion. I've found very few women in Medellin who are overweight. However most have nicely rounded butts, unlike the typical north American or Asian woman.

Sangnyc21
10-23-20, 05:52
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.

If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!

We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.

I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!It's always a given.

The more you spend the more there is available to you. There are 8's and 9's our there. But you're not getting them for Centro prices.

Great report. Sounds exactly about right. But I'm interested which agency this was.

Paulie97
10-23-20, 06:14
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Sangnyc21
10-23-20, 07:41
If people pay for pictures and videos, we will all end up jerking off. Don't buy anything from girls. Do not pay for dinners, do not buy pictures or videos, do not subscribe on Patreon, Onlyfans or even Twitch. Do not give these girls money for nothing. How can a monger do that?I have to agree to some of this although not all.

I am a believer pics and vids are an absolute waste and at times a scam.

Anything that is strictly an online thing can be a scam.

But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.

Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.

But I remember I got grilled because I was told I'm overpaying or spending too much and ruining the market etc etc.

How about these guys who spend tons of money on gifts and cam shows and they fall in love thinking they're the only one sending the monthly western unions or Moneygram. Those are the ones that ruin the market.

Even if I pay a Facebook girl double her going rate if she can resort to making money without actually having to fuck think about how much higher the price is going to be?

This happened to a Facebook girl last name Jimenez forgot her fn.

Last trip I decided I wanted to bang her. She said her price is 500 k for an hour.

She's not even a 7 in my book. Come to find out she makes side money doing cam shows and guys send her gifts without ever touching her.

THIS is what truly ruins the market.

BigTimeFun
10-23-20, 07:52
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.

If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied!

We had the nice big bottles of Tequila and Grey Goose, this young guy did not spare anything, even when I suggested that he could do things on a much cheaper budget, he insisted that he only had a week to play and did not want to haggle around with prices or look for girls in the street. This guy knew what he wanted and most of all he just really wanted to unwind and have everything at his command and I salute him for that because not once did he ever complain about money, not once.

I can tell you this, watching this young man enjoy himself really gave me a different perspective on mongering and the outcome of what each monger wants, which will be individual for each monger. I came with a plan to survive regardless of how long I had to be in Medellin. My friend came on a one week trip and achieved everything he wanted to achieve. He even booked an apartment for his return in December, he will be staying 3 months on that trip. Took me a few days to rest up from all of the partying with him but this is just a review of the great weak he and I had with all of the girls in Poblado. Pollo Negro is out!If I am correct 1 million pesos is about $250 dollars a day. Not what you want to spend every day if you live there. But he is not retired so $250 a day is a modest amount to spend for a vacation for a regular middle class person. I agree with him. When I have limited time I don't do a lot of haggling as long as I am somewhere near the going rates. The whole idea of a vacation is to treat yourself. And that's what I do when I travel. If I am living in Medellin I would do more bargaining as time would be on my side. But his circumstances are that he has more money than time. Good for him.

Luminous
10-23-20, 09:28
Guys. I will be in Medellin from Oct 24th. Nov 1st, will love to have a beer with forum members.

Please pm me.

SuperDan
10-23-20, 13:16
Casas and their chicas are very clean. The house or apartment are quite well kept. As a matter of fact they may request you shower with them. Most girls that visit you at the apartment come very fresh even though they may lack perfume. The younger ones are more casual. Dress or jeans with sneakers. Only my 8 comes dolled up but she's 32. The rest over 18 under 25 was just casual so maybe that had to do with my selections. Majority of the time the girls will request to take a shower just to enjoy a better shower. This is casa and apartment advice. For centro info check with surfer the dumpster diving centro king. He will tell you everything you want to know about them girls LOL. But on the low. They different LOL.Thank a lot for the info. All makes sense. I unfortunately have a higher end taste as well. I just can't do the dumpster diving (would be a ton cheaper LOL).

SuperDan
10-23-20, 13:18
October 10- October 17th.

Just recently I had a young friend of mines who came to Medellin for a short stay. This is about his 7th trip here. He is a different kind of guy and his main objective is having fun, regardless of cost. I can tell you that he used an agency that has girls in a Whatsapp group and every one of his girls arrived on time and looked really nice, better than nice, in my book they were all 8's and up!

Every day, this young thundercat had no less than 3 chics come through his upscale apartment in Poblado. The guards recognized me and never gave me a hassle, even when I brought 3 chics from Centro out to the apartment. No one ever complained about us playing music, chilling, relaxing and cooking, while enjoying the girls.

This guy was the kind of guy who knew what he wanted and spared no expense. This guy never complained about price and told me that he had been stuck in America for 8 months without being able to return to Colombia and he just wanted to unwind with all the extra cash from bonuses he received while travel was restricted. I can also tell you that this guy was on a million to a million and a half pesos a day budget.

If you do not have the kind of budget that this guy had, then you will probably not see the kind of girls this guy was dating. He truly had 8's, 9's, 10's. This guy did not try and undershoot the girls or bargain, they gave a price, he paid it, we partied.Do you by chance have the name and whatsapp # from the company he used?

Member #4665
10-23-20, 14:28
Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.

Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRk

PolloNegro
10-23-20, 14:49
If I am correct 1 million pesos is about $250 dollars a day. Not what you want to spend every day if you live there. But he is not retired so $250 a day is a modest amount to spend for a vacation for a regular middle class person. I agree with him. When I have limited time I don't do a lot of haggling as long as I am somewhere near the going rates. The whole idea of a vacation is to treat yourself. And that's what I do when I travel. If I am living in Medellin I would do more bargaining as time would be on my side. But his circumstances are that he has more money than time. Good for him.This guy and I have linked up about 7 times, he has finally decided to come down for 3 months, and work from Medellin like I did. Its not a weekly vacation thing, this young thundercat has money and he is not afraid to enjoy himself. He wanted me to show him how I have managed over the last 8 months and I did, I will be leaving soon and cannot return until like late May early June, so I won't be in Medellin for his 3 month stay, but I am sure he will survive just fine and be safe in Poblado, the setup in Poblado is ideal for guys like him. Pollo Negro is Out!

TresRios
10-23-20, 15:23
Well that is interesting. I just checked my WhatsApp and I saw her and the very end of June. I didn't pay 250. If I remember correctly it was 200 + 1 taxi. I like Erika and she's affectionate enough.

But once you've finished she is ready to take a shower and get dressed and leave. So she isn't the cuddle-bunny afterwards that some guys like. But she does provide a very good date.

By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied.

To a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.No worries. If not her there are others. If I do see her I will post the report here.

My Spanish is decent enough. Sounds like we are at the same level. Not fluent, but better than most gringos.

Are you in Medellin now? I will be there in a week. Maybe we can get a beer? TR.

Lugnut
10-23-20, 15:27
Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.

Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRkI can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. I don't think you are.

Sure, the very, very elite camgirls make big money. But 99 percent of them do not. Don't be fooled. Webcam is just a job. That's why mongers are still connecting with them. They are not special.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 15:46
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. Yes it was a joke. Satire because Some Women actually are doing this overcharging guys because of appearance attire sneakers hat etc. Is their behavior correct?

as a side note, yes, I also agree girls trying to sell pictures isn't going to make them rich. unless they find petroleum in the garden.

Shamester
10-23-20, 15:51
Cool, never been to Cali. If possible I will check it out.You must be able to speak Spanish to succeed in Cali. The 2 popular clinicas are good options.

IMO the music scene is overrated.

Incrociatore
10-23-20, 16:23
I do completely agree, and yes, I'm talking about hookers and prepagos.

But there is a trend in some of the big cities. On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.


I have to agree to some of this although not all.

I am a believer pics and vids are an absolute waste and at times a scam.

Anything that is strictly an online thing can be a scam.

But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.

Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.

But I remember I got grilled because I was told I'm overpaying or spending too much and ruining the market etc etc..

Lugnut
10-23-20, 16:38
Yes it was a joke. Satire because Some Women actually are doing this overcharging guys because of appearance attire sneakers hat etc. Is their behavior correct?Ok, I understand. Some people here have put camgirls on pedestals, but I'm not one of them. Being a camgirl does not make her elite; any girl who desires can do so. Most do not make big money. The average girl who tries it lasts only one month. If they make so much money, then why are they still connecting with mongers? Because they don't, in fact, make it like they want us to believe. Not the girls who are on tinder or seeking or whatever.

LoveItHere69
10-23-20, 17:43
Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.

Video and pictures are BS.

(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.

Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.

Mr Enternational
10-23-20, 17:52
I also agree girls trying to sell pictures isn't going to make them rich. unless they find petroleum in the garden.They said the same thing about Hugh Hefner. Depends on how many pictures they are selling.

Big Boss Man
10-23-20, 18:31
Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?I can send it to you if you become a ISG member. I tried already. Everybody has their own scale but none of them were eight and above on mine. You can do just as well on Mileroticos or Photosprepagos and you won't have to pay the agency fee.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 18:35
They said the same thing about Hugh Hefner. Depends on how many pictures they are selling.Some will make a decent amount of money selling pics. But to get rich like I said they need a lot of luck. For every Hugh Hefner there may be 100 other guys whose magazine startup failed. Failed business ads valuable experience to their resume.

Incrociatore
10-23-20, 18:58
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic about camgirls being rich. I don't think you are.

Sure, the very, very elite camgirls make big money. But 99 percent of them do not. Don't be fooled. Webcam is just a job. That's why mongers are still connecting with them. They are not special.Quoted. I also reported here my recent meeting with one of them, a standard 130 k at my place. She is saving for a motorbike and a boobs job.

KilledSoul
10-23-20, 19:21
By the way, how is your Spanish? I've had some girls ask me how well I speak Spanish and I tell them that I'm learning but can speak a fair amount. They then tell me it isn't fun for them to see someone who is tied. to a translator and they won't accept those dates unless they really 'have to'.Never heard this before.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 19:40
But don't pay for dinners?? That's a bit overboard.

Unless we are talking just hookers and prepagos. Then yes I agree I wouldn't pay for anything but sex and sex acts.
In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.

Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.

For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.

LoveItHere69
10-23-20, 19:54
Can you share the contact of one girl who is in this group? She must have a link on Internet somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?Can you share $25 for membership to get the information from this group? You must have money somewhere, right? Am I asking too much?

Member #4665
10-23-20, 19:57
But there is a trend in some of the big cities. On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.These women are just "innocent scammers. " She would say I didn't steal anything he gave me the money. Suuuuure.

The guys are fools being played like fiddles. Exception is if the men are looking for platonic relationships.

Paulie97
10-23-20, 20:00
It's always a given.

The more you spend the more there is available to you. There are 8's and 9's our there. But you're not getting them for Centro prices.Of course many say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder," yet there tends to be a lot of agreement as to who the hottest girls are. It's funny that many of the "8's and 9's" you find in places like Fase Dos and Loutron started out in Centro. I know two New Life girls that graduated to Loutron where customers were charged six times as much, but they looked better in their first job, more natural and less hardcore. And I know two Venezuelans friends that started out stripping in Bar Maricaibo, then both added silicone and moved to Fase Dos. Both would be 8's, 9's in am the books of many guys, but both likewise looked better in their first jobs. There's plenty of very attractive girls to be found working in Centro casas and strip clubs if you have time and patience.

P.S. There's also a lot of flow from New Life and other Centro casas over to the higher end Energy casa by the stadium, same girl but triple the price.

SuperDan
10-23-20, 20:07
Can anyone recommend any good agencies to use? I know a lot show pictures of girls that don't look anything like they do and some are scams. Any help is appreciated thanks.

GeneHickman
10-23-20, 20:18
Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.

Video and pictures are BS.

(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.

Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.

Forever18
10-23-20, 20:31
Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.I read online and someone said Ibis hotel at Medellin is guest friendly without having to pay joiner fee even that person bring a different girl to the room every night. Can't someone verify that?

Elvis 2008
10-23-20, 20:33
But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.A decent restaurant in Colombia is like $20. The purpose of taking a woman to dinner for me is to find out if she is worth an investment of my time and money and if I find her attractive in real life. Taking a woman to get her hair done is not going to help me in any way with that. That is a reward to a woman who has pleased me in and out of the bedroom or one I care about.

I think most women without much money fall into the category about wanting to take money from men and have sex with them but not feel like a prostitute. For those women, this is about dipping their toe in and not feeling like they have sold their soul. Dinner is a chance for me to tell them you can fuck me and not feel badly about it.

Guys who stupidly proclaim that is still prostitution miss the point. You are not going to have a good experience or get laid if the woman feels like a working girl.

For the most part, though, taking the working girl who has accepted what she is to dinner is a no win proposition. You are better off saving your money for sex. The exception is the woman who can give me as much pleasure with her company as with her orifices. I grant you such women are very rare.

Blakman
10-23-20, 20:43
And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.


Never heard this before..

Mr Enternational
10-23-20, 20:43
On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. So be aware, because these women are the worst.They are not the worst. All you have to do is say no. Why you can't just say no? Because you don't want to miss out on that pussy that is why. So you throw money at it.

First off, you should know if a chick is out of your league. That is half the problem; guys are trying to go out of their lane. Same as all these big stars get famous and marry a chick that would not have looked at them twice before they were rich and famous. Then before you know she has divorced him and taken half his shit.

You think I am out here trying to holler at chicks that have pictures in their profile where they are on yachts in bikinis and shit? Nope. Because I already know what they are about. Like Jj said about me before, I am after simple chicks that live normal ass lives and work normal ass jobs, not chicks that want to portray themselves as supermodels when in actuality they don't have 2000 pesos to rub together. They were ballin on the yacht, but as soon as the dude that was paying for it all sent them home, they turned back into pumpkins. You each want a fantasy from the other. Just because it glitters does not mean it is gold.

Blakman
10-23-20, 20:47
Today she said mucho money mucho sex. I said no dinero. Just a few gifts. She said ok then gifts no sex. I said no sex then take care and find someone else who pay you mucho money. So lets see who gives in. But your fired LOL.

JjBee62
10-23-20, 20:56
Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.

Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRkLet us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.

Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.

If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.

It's incredibly simple.

1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.

2. Talk nicely to her.

3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.

4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.

5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.

If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?

Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.

Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.

Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.

JjBee62
10-23-20, 21:06
Never heard this before.I've never heard it, but I've experienced it. When I was reaching for my phone every 30 seconds, my sessions were not as good as when my Spanish improved to the point of having basic conversations.

"Chupalo y mirame" is more effective if you don't have to pick up your phone and type in "suck it and look at me." Especially when autocorrect gives you "Pata lo why mira me."

JjBee62
10-23-20, 21:17
Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.

Video and pictures are BS.

(reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.

Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.Do you think their friends don't already know about webcam? When I was recruiting webcam models, nearly every hooker I talked to had tried it, or knew someone who did.

Actually, the end of the lockdown, or more precisely, the economy recovering, means more money spent on webcam. There's not a big crossover between webcam customers and mongers. There are some who do both, but most are either or.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. When they find out it takes 6-8 weeks of 4-8 hour days, just to get to where they make as much as they do hooking, they'll be back on the streets.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 21:40
Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

A girl on seeking.

1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.

6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.

This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.

What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.

Sangnyc21
10-23-20, 21:45
In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.

Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.

For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.

If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.

I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.

However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.

But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.

Member #4665
10-23-20, 21:50
Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.

Golfinho
10-23-20, 21:59
In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.
Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.
For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.In real life, whoever does the inviting picks up the check. Isn't that a universal?

Combo
10-23-20, 23:16
You must be able to speak Spanish to succeed in Cali. The 2 popular clinicas are good options.

No different than Medellin or Bogota for Spanish.

IMO the music scene is overrated.If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.

Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.

Surfer500
10-23-20, 23:37
And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao..So you've been with some girls that are frustrated with you because you don't speak much Spanish. Not surprising, and I'm not busting your chops on this, but makes perfect sense, especially if your spending a lot of time with them. Communicating using a translator has its limitations, especially for those who speak very little Spanish and are totally dependent on a translator to communicate, hence it's a pain in the ass and boring for the girls to have to sit there trying to communicate very basic things like are you hungry, do you want something to drink, etc.

I struggle with my Spanish to communicate, and sometimes because of the girl's accents, I have a hard time understanding them. To illustrate imagine speaking with someone from California, New York, New Orleans, and South Carolina. I remember once visiting a factory in Tennessee and somebody came on the public address system and I asked if they were speaking English as the accent was so strong I could barely understand it. Or once when I was in Glasgow in Britain and couldn't understand much either albeit they were speaking English. So my point is that there is quite a variance in the Spanish at least how it is spoken in Colombia. And it's one thing to be able to speak Spanish, and another to understand Spanish. I understand way more than I can say, why and it takes a long time to learn what the words sound like when they are pronounced, especially with all the conjugations and different tenses.

The better your Spanish skills are, the easier it is to navigate things in Colombia, and especially with the Chicas.

Luminus
10-23-20, 23:54
Lolol I humbly step back.


Today she said mucho money mucho sex. I said no dinero. Just a few gifts. She said ok then gifts no sex. I said no sex then take care and find someone else who pay you mucho money. So lets see who gives in. But your fired LOL.

Kafka
10-24-20, 00:22
I can live without Bachata.


If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.

Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.

Questner
10-24-20, 00:46
If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.

Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.Frankie Lebrón passed away last month. The Feria will be mostly virtual this year. You can watch it on Telepacifico.

Blakman
10-24-20, 01:08
Whats my next steps to get on the plane.


Lolol I humbly step back..

Blakman
10-24-20, 01:26
But if they show up to your apartment they fucking. I just give them gifts and they happy. If you flatly say no i am not generous til i meet you face to face and they stick around. Then you are making progress


Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

A girl on seeking.

1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.

6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.

This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.

What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down..

Blakman
10-24-20, 01:30
Whats happening on the ground over there.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 02:32
Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.
Next time I'll try to make it clear what I wrote was a joke and satire. I'll explain: I've read several reports where women here charge men more money because they appear to be or addressed like or talk like foreigners. This appears to be a poor practice by this woman. How would 1 of these women feel she went to San Francisco and some guy asked for her birthplace and then told her well I will only pay you $100 per hour because you were born over there not here.

So if having an accent or baseball Hat Represents having to pay more then the joke was I ask the escort if she has a WebCam. Any girl who escorts and has a WebCam is clearly very rich. so I should only have to pay 25,000 per hour.

bad jokes happen.

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 02:38
Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

A girl on seeking.

1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 02:49
For the most part, though, taking the working girl who has accepted what she is to dinner is a no win proposition. You are better off saving your money for sex. The exception is the woman who can give me as much pleasure with her company as with her orifices. I grant you such women are very rare.Hey this is a great post. It shares personal experience. I found a woman that is great in the bedroom and at keeping me company. I found her on my 1st try lookiing for someone. So I always wondered if all women were so great or if there was just some things special about her. would it be hard to find someone like her again?

Member #4665
10-24-20, 02:53
Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.

GeneHickman
10-24-20, 03:08
Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.Don't doubt it, but the same is true for them being a hooker and visiting strangers. I mean doing something like bigo is minor compared to being a puta right. All they have to do is wear a slightly skimpy clothes.The families of many of these Chicas know exactly what they are up to and turn a blind eye to it. I often see family members walk by as they are webcaming. Heck some of their family know they are eating tonight due to that. So they tolerate it. The concept of a young good looking girl hanging out with a wealthy older man often married is fairly well known and even tolerated / ignored in many cultures, and I sense that is the case in Colombia as well. Maybe its a part of the gang culture or something else. But its clearly there and not just with gringos. In fact when I go to fase dos etc. its often more locals, traveling businessmen, older buddies etc.

Finally as societies evolve/develop they tend to ignore these stigmas more and more. They also tend to get less religious.
Being a porn actress 30 yrs ago was far more stigmatized than it is today. And 30yrs ago porn was a lot more benign with just mostly just suck and fuck.
Heck go 30 yrs prior to that and what Marilyn Monroe did was frowned upon. Some of these societies haven't moved as far as the US yet. Let's face it, the more we "lead the world" the more they start to embrace US ideals, good in many ways, but on gender relations we are a complete clusterfuck of a country! I hope we learn from them. But doubtful as a pig is more attractive to me than the average American feminist.

GeneHickman
10-24-20, 03:26
Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

A girl on seeking.

1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.

6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.

This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.

What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.A long winded way of saying, don't send money till the deed is done. I doubt there is a monger here that hasn't heard that. Now whether all of them follow it is another story, but I think everyone has heard it. Where seeking is a little different is it's possibly a sort of hybrid between dating and mongering. Some of that maybe related to the hostile environment to prostitution in the good ole USA. So in order to sanitize it, the lines have to be blurred. So the question is how to look at a date. For me, if the chica is attractive enough, then money spent on a dinner date is a small loss, so I go along, but if it's looking like I ain't getting in those pants, it will be noted and she gets blacklisted.

GeneHickman
10-24-20, 03:35
And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.

.Yes agree and some make that an excuse. One even cut the date short with me saying the communication was an issue. And I have about 30-40% Spanish, not fluent and conversational but certainly enough to get by with basics. So it happens occasionally with ones that are in demand. But most are patient with you, definitely the ones that want a repeat date.

Nounce
10-24-20, 04:53
Hey this is a great post. It shares personal experience. I found a woman that is great in the bedroom and at keeping me company. I found her on my 1st try lookiing for someone. So I always wondered if all women were so great or if there was just some things special about her. would it be hard to find someone like her again?You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.

Nounce
10-24-20, 05:05
Dude what is up with all the BS? Scheduling a videocall? What is wrong with when you are messaging with a chick just saying turn on your cam? And if she is a hooker then say come over and fuck at 8 pm and I will give you Xamountofpesos. What is with all the hemming and hawing? Again I thought the reason to deal with hookers was to cut through the BS. It seems you are keeping yourself around for it. Come fuck or kick rocks. It is simple.Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?

As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:00
Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

A girl on seeking.

1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM..A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?

If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:12
Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.

If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.

I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.

However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.

But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.Not really true for Colombia, amongst friends. A female friend will ask if you are inviting her, "me invitas", or she may tell you "te invito." In Colombia, inviting means your treat. It's perfectly acceptable to ask a female friend if she wants to go eat or drink without picking up the tab.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:20
Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.For some, that is true. For others it isn't.

I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.

For th.

Kazeu
10-24-20, 06:23
Well said. Great advice on negotiations.


Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.

Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.

If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.

It's incredibly simple.

1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.

2. Talk nicely to her.

3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.

4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.

5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.

If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?

Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.

Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.

Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:30
Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.For some, that is true. For others it isn't.

I just checked in with my old roommate. She's doing fine, no stigma.

For those who don't know the story:

I shared an apartment with a webcam model for almost 10 months. She's a successful webcam model. She's 30 years younger than me. I met almost her entire family, some of her friends and her ex boyfriend. All of them knew she's a webcam model. For the record she comes from an estrato 4 family.

On the other side, about 4 years ago a webcam model in Medellin jumped off a bridge in front of a metro train after some guy threatened to tell her family.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:36
Whats my next steps to get on the plane.I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 06:41
According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.As I said, you're going to want to invest in some quality hand cream.

Osteoknot
10-24-20, 06:52
Hello all,

I am new here and just had some questions. I am going within the next few weeks and wanted to know if you all make these girls shower before doing anything with them? Trying to be clean and as safe as I can. Also, where can I find these WhatsApp groups some of you are referring to? Thanks a lot.And my high school was in a good part of town in the good ol' US of A, jjaaja. I find the Medellin girls are obsessed with cleanliness. All my regulars and even the majority of the new ones. Usually the last words out of their moufuses before we meet is "I'll take a shower before I call the taxi. " In fact, I told Sexy Dexy to stop showering right before she arrived because I wanted to taste something real and not just soap and perfume when I ate her out. The one exception is GI Jane, who would usually come see me directly from work where she gets sweaty and has to hustle. ONE time I asked her to jump in the shower after we started sex and she laughed, took zero offense and happily complied. If you're dealing with a random street puta, then she might ask to use your shower or you can point her in that direction, I don't think she will be offended. BTW, don't be surprised if your girl avoids the hot water. Some girls love it, but I think something like 80%+ of these girls, maybe higher, live without hot water, and they are used to it. I've showered with two separate girls who laughed at me because I was "afraid" of the cold water. Chalk it up to another cross-cultural experience and go with the flow (punny).

Disclaimer: All my posts and opinions are based on a pre-Covid Medellin, I got out right before the quarantine.

Random gratuitous foto: I took this screenshot but have never met this Cali girl, yet. She swears she wants to hook up and I have not ever been ghosted, but there is always a first time. Usually I have my hooks in them pretty deep by the time we agree to meet, and they are leaving a snail trail on their way to my door. I'll let you know. Her face is a 7 with make-up. But that body is as close to a ten for me as I will come. 9+. I might tell you the punch line in a future post, but it will be so much sweeter if I wait until after I use her body like my personal playground.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 07:03
You are assuming people want something in return. It is a trivial amount of money to most people so why sweat about it. I have no problem buying dinner for hookers who I don't even intend to have sex with. LOL.You can buy lunch or dinner for under 1 k. I'll happily spend 15k to buy lunch before doing the deed. If I want a no-frills fuck I'd go to a casa.

That 15k gives the girl a chance to get comfortable with you. It slows down the pace, which for me means a better and longer session.

If 15k is going to break your budget you picked the wrong hobby.

JjBee62
10-24-20, 07:05
Elvis and Slapshot who date girls from SA don't complain so how bad can it be?

As for all the price talk, I think you should be the one who complain the loudest on here because there are even more competitions, more big spenders in Pattaya. But you just do your own thing and I don't remember you ever whine about others causing you to pay more.Nobody else has any effect on the price I pay.

Mojo Bandit
10-24-20, 07:09
Whats happening on the ground over there.These were made last weekend.

Tis video is by an expat that lives in Medellin, for a YouTube video its a little long but and during the middle he gets into a long conversation with another expat about why they chose to live in Medellin. At about the 24:40 he usms it up when he says "it is is picking up it is not what it was but it is almost there".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iUvGSvFZ4

This guy stops and talking to the door promotor at Gusto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbxNtkkAIeE

Osteoknot
10-24-20, 07:09
Quoted. I also reported here my recent meeting with one of them, a standard 130 k at my place. She is saving for a motorbike and a boobs job.Nature of the beast. At least none that I can find on the InterWeb. My best guess? 2% of the girls are making a nice living. 10-20% are getting by. 80% try it and have to drop out in a year or less. The people who own the sites are getting rich. Supposedly there is a high rise building in Medellin where every floor, every room, is occupied by a cam model. Anyone else heard this or can verify? I am pretty sure they don't get free tours, jaja.

Blakman
10-24-20, 09:03
Videocalls, voicenotes, videonotes all help in deciphering your potential clients integrity. You might lose her interest but better safe than sorry. This kind of behavior is just built in ones character. And that's how they flow. I am definitely that way safety first.


According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers..

Villainy
10-24-20, 13:43
I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.

I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.

So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.

Showdown
10-24-20, 14:51
A member of the board shared some contact details with a Milk Maiden whose services he has used. I won't mention him but he can mention who he is if he likes.

Nice girl and was willing to come to Bogota with her roommate for a threesome complete with milk. She sent me tons of videos and photos and I talked to her a few times. Nice girl. I sent her a few dollars for her videos and it is obvious she is struggling to survive after seeing her surroundings and the infant she has. Was my good deed for the day. Here are a few snaps of her.

She wanted to take the bus down to Bogota but I have so many casas and street sweeties I want to hunt down there I've decided not to do it. I am sure I can find a Milk Maiden or a preggo on the streets of Santa Fe.

Showdown.

Surfer500
10-24-20, 16:17
According to reports there are a lot of dangerous criminal women out there. They want to steal and they want to drug their victims. Scheduling a video call is just part of the safety procedure so I don't become a victim of a criminal. the guard gets their ID or I get there ID because I don't do businesss with strangers nor dates with strangers.This sounds very peculiar, interactions involving scheduling a video conference call prior to meeting for the first time with most women in Colombia doesn't happen. Have you ever been to Colombia, the guards in buildings are called Portero's, and they don't hang onto the girls ID's which are called Cedulas while the girls are in the room, nor are the women going to allow strangers to hang onto to their ID's.

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 16:52
I sent her a few dollars for her videos and it is obvious she is struggling to survive after seeing her surroundings and the infant she has.Why are you so sure she is struggling to survive? She looks pretty happy in the pictures. The surroundings appear to be a typical place to me. Don't fall in to the foreign man's guilt trap. Compared to where you are from, in 95% of the places on the earth it may appear folks are struggling to survive.

My first time in India I ran into a family that you may have thought was struggling to survive, but they had food and smiles on their faces. Not living as we are accustomed in no way means struggling to survive.

Showdown
10-24-20, 17:06
Why are you so sure she is struggling to survive? She looks pretty happy in the pictures. The surroundings appear to be a typical place to me. Don't fall in to the foreign man's guilt trap. Compared to where you are from, in 95% of the places on the earth it may appear folks are struggling to survive.

My first time in India I ran into a family that you may have thought was struggling to survive, but they had food and smiles on their faces. Not living as we are accustomed in no way means struggling to survive.Let me rephrase. I felt generous and I sent her a pittance. I learned a long time ago not to get caught up with this working girls. I got burned once or twice. But it does not mean you lose your humanity.

Showdown.

Blakman
10-24-20, 17:11
Handle it like a man. Be a bigger man LOL. Is the migration registration 24 hrs before flight the last step. I have the results on my phone. That should be good enough. I got a 96 HR results and waiting on 72 HR results.


I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL..

LvZooMan211
10-24-20, 17:39
Hola everyone,

I'm thinking about pulling the trigger and go back to Medellin after Christmas until the new year. Does anyone know of a hotel or apartment near Parque Lleras that is guest friendly, with and without charging a fee?

I was in Medellin last year and stayed at San Peter Apartments in Laureles. It was great and did not charge me a guest fee, but it was a bit far from Lleras.

Also wondering what the chica scene is like in Medellin right now. TIA.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 17:52
This sounds very peculiar, interactions involving scheduling a video conference call prior to meeting for the first time with most women in Colombia doesn't happen. Have you ever been to Colombia, the guards in buildings are called Portero's, and they don't hang onto the girls ID's which are called Cedulas while the girls are in the room, nor are the women going to allow strangers to hang onto to their ID's.It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.

And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.

If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?

I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.

It doesn't sound peculiar to me.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 18:04
A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?

If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?

Yes I agree on the not continue. But the pickings are slim so I needed to date. Sometimes the girl may appear to be a thief but it is only because she is young, doesn't know how to communicate, inexperienced, hasn't studied negotiation.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 18:11
As I said, you're going to want to invest in some quality hand cream.Maybe one day I will try that hand cream. But maybe I can do it without the hand cream. :)

MarquisdeSade1
10-24-20, 18:21
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/10/21/milwaukee-women-suspected-stealing-85000-chicago-men/

Anyone recognize these 2 from MDE? Jajajajajaja.

Blakman
10-24-20, 18:44
I had to turn away a few girls cause they didn't carry cedula. Which I never face this issue in other countries. 99% of the girls know to carry identification or else no entry. Apparently medellin has places that don't check ID and girls will try to come without identification.


It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.

And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.

If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?

I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.

It doesn't sound peculiar to me..

Mojo Bandit
10-24-20, 18:46
Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. It is just the way they have it wet up some hoe and then there are some chica in the same warehouse that run cams that can be seen in the USA. That and europe are the big markets. The spanish speaking market is much smaller.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 19:11
Hey guys for those of you doubting my allegiance.

I just want to make it clear I was taking shrapnel in Cambodia while you guys were gathering your first 150,000 k and jerking off to MTV.

*THIS IS A JOKE ALERT*. LOL ROLF good times. if I took shrapnel in Cambodia I can take some criticism too.

Bookie77
10-24-20, 19:16
I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.

I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.

So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.You haven't done nothing wrong mate. You have just shared your opinion about her. What's the difference if someone says his opinion through PMs or public?

Surfer500
10-24-20, 19:39
It may sound Fiction to you. That is your opinion. Maybe you want To ask for an explanation? It's not fiction and And it is true. 3 dates on seeking in Columbia all have used videoconference to confirm identity. Maybe videoconference doesn't happen with escort agencies but videoconference does happen on seeking.

And I asked the guard in the condominium and they use a process called "registro" were the guards are allowed to ask to see the visitors photo ID and write down their number as requirement for entry into the condominium.

If a girl wants to be friends with the guy She has to to show her ID To the guy because she has to prove she is over 18. If the girl doesn't want to show the man her ID and doesn't want to show the guard her ID before entering the apartment complex then she should find someone else to visit because I don't want her to visit me. On seeking I don't do business with strangers and I don't do dates with strangers. Why should anybody take that risk?

I never said the guard hangs on to the girls ID. I never said the women allow strangers to hang onto their ID.

It doesn't sound peculiar to me.I have no experience with Seeking, and if video conferencing is utilized then your smart to use it, and I agree with avoiding risks albeit regardless of videoconferences, all of the girls I would consider strangers and can be very good actors. However what sounds peculiar though is the terminology you have been using in some your posts which sound generic in many ways and not specific to any one Country, hence this was the reason I asked if you have ever been to Colombia.

After three dates in Colombia you would know that the ID in Colombia is called the "Cedula", and that whom you have been calling guards are called "Porteros". Also apartment complexes in Colombia are not referred to as condominiums.

So if you haven't been to Colombia, one might assume that your currently in the interview process with three future potential dates on Seeking who you have been videoconferencing with and will be able to confirm their identity upon meeting with them in person.

Surfer500
10-24-20, 19:43
I could tell you, but you fired me. LOL.Your not alone, I was fired as well and didn't even get a severance package.

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 20:25
*THIS IS A JOKE ALERT*. LOL ROLF good times. if I took shrapnel in Cambodia I can take some criticism too.Like one of my jokes. If Sadam couldn't kill me, why would I be worried about mfs in downtown Medellin?

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 20:47
Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. What about with a VPN?

Member #4665
10-24-20, 20:48
Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.

Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like cats do.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa

Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour. And I'm doing you a favor here.

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 20:56
I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.

I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences.

Blakman
10-24-20, 21:16
No more backing you. LOL


Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.

Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like a cat's eyes.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa

Lay down the law..

Member #4665
10-24-20, 21:21
No more backing you. LOL
*IT WAS JUST A JOKE ALERT* something very similar actually did happen but I fixed it up to make a better story. And the girl still loves me.

Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here.

MarquisdeSade1
10-24-20, 22:56
Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences."Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. " jajajajajaja.

Surfer500
10-24-20, 23:03
No more backing you. LOL.Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off with the posts from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.

Maybe now you will consider rehiring me, or perhaps even Jbee2, I could take you deep into the bowels of El Centro and get you laid for 20,000 COP including the room, with a "woman", yet you would have to be tied, blindfolded, and dragged to go along with the program.

Mr Enternational
10-24-20, 23:27
"Sounds like you are trying to be selfish and keep the hooker to yourself. " jajajajajaja.Nah. I just don't want any strangers fucking shit up for me again. Horehouse is thataway. Go choose your own chick.

Fun Luvr
10-24-20, 23:31
I really regret having to pass this along. We have at least one total dirtbag in our midst. A member asked about a certain girl that he found on FaceBook. I responded that I had met her before and shared a few short observations that were true and designed to help the member decide if this was a good person for him to see. The comments were mostly positive. Well, I bet you can see where this is going.

I got a message from the lady last night and she was steamed that I had spoken about her in this group.

So fair warning gentlemen. It isn't safe to speak of a lady in the forum. We will have to share intel or information through PMs because we have a fool (or more than one) among us who think that one of their hookers is their best friend and they have to pass along anything they see to the girl. Yes, I know. It is possible to have a genuine friendship with a working girl BUT that doesn't mean you share everything you read in the forum with her.Something similar happened to me a few years ago, except it was on Facebook. A dirtbag attorney asked me about one of my friends. He said he saw her profile and may be interested in seeing her. I told him I thought she was out of the business. He then asked more questions, and I let my guard down and answered some of them. A few days later, the lady contacted me and told me everything I had said to the dirtbag. The dirtbag had the balls to ask me more questions, and said "Bros before hoes". I never responded to him. No one needs to try to pull the "Bros before hoes" on me because I will trust a hooker I know before a monger I have never met.

Member #4665
10-24-20, 23:39
Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.
Surfer500 if you want to be rude by all means do so. Does not bother me.

Blakman Wrote "I am backing you frank1" because it appears blakman Agreed with some of my statementts regarding Colombian photo ID and security.

Then blakman Wrote "Now you lost me No more backing you. LOL" After I made an amusing joke.He even included a laughing out loud as a result of the joke.

Nowhere has blakman Called me a spade, nor said I had been off from the go, nor said that I am like S job Chronicles, nor said I am Amusing, nor somewhat credible, nor that I am absurd.

So why are you putting words into blakman mouth? Black man never said he is learning to call me a spade. He didn't say those things. You, surfer 500, said those things. Surfer 500 that is your own personal opinion.

You know whether you like my post or not I have actually contributed a lot of information. I'm not here to make friends. And I understand I made an crazy amusing joke. Not making apologies. Because I wanted to make that joke.

You surfer 500 keep questioning the veracity of my posts. But you have no evidence nor can you prove that I am lying about anything. So congratulations keep up your critical thinking and read up on Socrates and his friend Aristotle.

But remember this is just your opinion. How about you consider not being rude and let other people make up their own minds, and not put your own words and opinions into their mouth.

All my post I wrritten not to reveal anything about myself nor about any of the girls. So there's a lot of anonymous information. However my posts are not Untrue. The only thing that is off and untrue An absurd is your opinion about my post.

I could post the WhatsApp chat historyTo show all those things actually happen with the girl with the 6 red flags. But I'm not going to waste my time arguing with some guy who has God-given powers to determine what is true and what is false. You are completely wrong and if I do post the WhatsApp history you Will just be a complete embarrassment with your Psychotic accusation.

If you don't like my post at them to the ignore list and you will nevver see them again.

JohnnyO
10-24-20, 23:54
BBBJ included, all for 100 k + 6000 of taxi from my place to the metro. And tomorrow I will see her again, we'll go to visit a place together and then I will have a good time for two hours at my place. For 100. Where else in the world? I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.

Gringo Trooper
10-25-20, 00:13
I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks."Cuanto cuesta para chuparme sin condon?

"Tienes que chuparme sin condon. Esta bien?

Surfer500
10-25-20, 00:26
A red flag means stop. Do not continue. There should never be a second or third red flag, but you went for 6?

If a sign says "beware of dog", how many times does the dog need to bite you before you believe it?You picked up on the lunacy quicker than I did and have been one of the few to call it out.

MarquisdeSade1
10-25-20, 00:26
I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.Or oral natural.

JohnnyO
10-25-20, 00:56
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.

The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.

Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.

Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?

I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?

Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.

Jim0129
10-25-20, 01:04
I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.

I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?

Member #4665
10-25-20, 01:04
Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?

I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?

It may not be possible for the guard to deny entry, unless there is some sort of Legal justification?

These doorman are actually policeman. They have their uniform on. Depending on what you want the best may be an apartment building with a police man at the gate. Preferably with cameras. These guards are allowed to ask for the ID and write down the ID number of the girl. Security is good because the newspaperr report that these girls going to the apartment drug the guy in the apartment and then steal all his belongings and Steel all his credit cards. A few posts ago someone mentioned that the monger was eating and singing Beatles songs in his apartment With the girl and the next thing he knew he woke up druged. Also tell the security guard that you will walk the girl out of the building. And if the girl leaves alone there could be something wrong and he maay agree to go knock at your door to see if you're okay.

But if you prefer something more discrete Well then.

Member #4665
10-25-20, 01:09
I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.

I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?I've heard a similar case. But the guy who invited the escort was already very close friends with her. For example he met her a few years ago they became trustworthy friends and then A year later he invited her and she agreed.

Surfer500
10-25-20, 01:36
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.

The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.

Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.

Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?

I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?

Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.Don't sweat this, make sure where your staying is guest friendly. The doorman (Porteros) are not the Police, they don't carry guns, and if they deny entry to a visitor into the building who has a Cedula, then they are going to need to have a good excuse for denying entry with your recourse being contacting the owner. Don't be surprised if nobody checks the ID's of visitors, however there may be issues with the other residents / tenants of the building complaining about a gringo bringing in a parade of girls. With this being said, you should tell your visitors to dress down, not wearing skimpy outfits, and always try to fly under the radar.

If you speak Spanish you should try to be-friend the Porteros by occasionally bringing them snacks, cookies, etc. The Portero's know everything that goes on in the buildings they work in, and literally know who is fucking who. Having a cordial respectful attitude and showing gratitude for the job there doing will go a long way, especially if any issues come up which the Porteros can easily diffuse, so having a good rapport with them is strongly advised. Again as long as the apartment is guest friendly for visitors with a Cedula don't sweat it.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 01:48
Nature of the beast. At least none that I can find on the InterWeb. My best guess? 2% of the girls are making a nice living. 10-20% are getting by. 80% try it and have to drop out in a year or less. The people who own the sites are getting rich. Supposedly there is a high rise building in Medellin where every floor, every room, is occupied by a cam model. Anyone else heard this or can verify? I am pretty sure they don't get free tours, jaja.Your numbers are pretty close. Just change the 1 year to 1 month or less. Practically every camgirl who makes it a year is supporting herself.

I doubt that building exists. I know of a smaller one, 3 stories, in Manila, that is used exclusively by a webcam studio to provide broadcast rooms for their models.

There are probably several high-rises in Poblado where about 10% of the apartments have webcam models living in them. I knew of at least 6 in my building of 100 apartments and I saw several girls going in and out who appeared to be models.

There are a few models with blogs worth reading, if it interests you. Sofia Storm is a good one to start with. She's originally from Bogota, retired to New Zealand.

MSanchez
10-25-20, 02:07
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.

Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 02:13
Handle it like a man. Be a bigger man LOL. Is the migration registration 24 hrs before flight the last step. I have the results on my phone. That should be good enough. I got a 96 HR results and waiting on 72 HR results..I'm pretty sure I am the bigger man. We can measure when I get to Medellin.

I'll send you my standard 30 day consulting contract and you can send me a check.

Yes, between 1-24 hours before your flight fill out the migracióand form. I'd recommend printing your test results, just in case.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 02:20
Know some cam girls up in Bello and their cams are not shown in Colombia at all, one has a German name and a german them to her "show" and the other Swedish, you cannot even see them in the United States. It is just the way they have it wet up some hoe and then there are some chica in the same warehouse that run cams that can be seen in the USA. That and europe are the big markets. The spanish speaking market is much smaller.Webcam sites allow the model to block any country they want. Models in the US can block individual states.

You can get around the block with a VPN. However, not all. VPNs work with every site.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 02:29
You haven't done nothing wrong mate. You have just shared your opinion about her. What's the difference if someone says his opinion through PMs or public?The difference is, many girls don't want to end up on "the internet. " Some get quite upset about it. If it's a girl you wanted to repeat with, that could be shot down. Worse though, the girls all talk to each other. Your problem with one girl might get you blocked by 50 girls.

I don't even share info in PM without checking with the girl. Not going to get burned again.

Mojo Bandit
10-25-20, 02:41
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.

The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.

Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.

Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?

.This has been covered in this thread in the past and the answer is yes! When you write the people in Airbnb or whichever app you use always ask their policy on visitors and the buildings policy on visitors. I haver heard many people say it can go against you either way. Sometimes the owner of the apartment does not want to be associated with prostitution even though the building has no rules against it, and sometimes the building has rules against it even though the owner might not mind. So I repeat: you need to message the renter using the Airbnb message service and ask about both the buildings policy on visitors and the apartment owners policy on visitors.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 02:49
Some of us have to find out the hard way that there are all kinds on this board. I learned when I hooked a guy with a chick in Thailand with her permission, but after their meeting she never spoke to me again for some reason. Even when I ran into her in public she would ignore me. I will talk about the where, when, how much, but you got to find your own who. YMMV anyway so no sense in chasing after a chick because of someone else's experience with her. Create your own experiences.Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

There are probably 20,000 hookers in Medellin who have never fucked a gringo. There are probably another 50k women who would happily give it up if only someone would ask.

I was walking El Centro with a guy who was a pro level Centro rat. He kept stopping in stores and at kiosks because he knew a woman that worked there. Some had been girlfriends, some one shot girls.

Then he stopped at a kiosk run by an old woman and her granddaughter. He talked to grandma for a few, told her he wanted to take the girl back to his room. She had him buy a dress for 20k. He bought it, gave it to the girl. She gave it back to granny, who hung it back up, and off he went with the girl.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 02:51
*IT WAS JUST A JOKE ALERT* something very similar actually did happen but I fixed it up to make a better story. And the girl still loves me.

Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here.I'm not sure keeping guys from getting laid is much of a favor.

Knowledge
10-25-20, 02:58
The original poster seems disinclined to RTFF about this subject. A quick workaround is to rent a place in one of the punter clubhouses like San Peter and others. If that's not the preferred way then I recommend a quick search of Lugnut's posts during the May and June period. There are some helpful hints of what to do and what to avoid doing.


This has been covered in this thread in the past and the answer is yes! When you write the people in Airbnb or whichever app you use always ask their policy on visitors and the buildings policy on visitors. I haver heard many people say it can go against you either way. Sometimes the owner of the apartment does not want to be associated with prostitution even though the building has no rules against it, and sometimes the building has rules against it even though the owner might not mind. So I repeat: you need to message the renter using the Airbnb message service and ask about both the buildings policy on visitors and the apartment owners policy on visitors.

SpiderRider
10-25-20, 03:07
I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.

I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.

Blakman
10-25-20, 03:09
I am staying out of this battle with you and frankie.


Your learning now when to call a spade a spade, something has been off with the posts from the get go, kinda like the Sjob chronicles, amusing at first, somewhat credible, and then evolving into the absurd.

Maybe now you will consider rehiring me, or perhaps even Jbee2, I could take you deep into the bowels of El Centro and get you laid for 20,000 COP including the room, with a "woman", yet you would have to be tied, blindfolded, and dragged to go along with the program..

JjBee62
10-25-20, 03:25
Surfer500 if you want to be rude by all means do so. Does not bother me.

Blakman Wrote "I am backing you frank1" because it appears blakman Agreed with some of my statementts regarding Colombian photo ID and security.

Then blakman Wrote "Now you lost me No more backing you. LOL" After I made an amusing joke.He even included a laughing out loud as a result of the joke.

Nowhere has blakman Called me a spade, nor said I had been off from the go, nor said that I am like S job Chronicles, nor said I am Amusing, nor somewhat credible, nor that I am absurd.

So why are you putting words into blakman mouth? Black man never said he is learning to call me a spade. He didn't say those things. You, surfer 500, said those things. Surfer 500 that is your own personal opinion.

You know whether you like my post or not I have actually contributed a lot of information. I'm not here to make friends. And I understand I made an crazy amusing joke. Not making apologies. Because I wanted to make that joke.

You surfer 500 keep questioning the veracity of my posts. But you have no evidence nor can you prove that I am lying about anything. So congratulations keep up your critical thinking and read up on Socrates and his friend Aristotle.

But remember this is just your opinion. How about you consider not being rude and let other people make up their own minds, and not put your own words and opinions into their mouth..You tell him Frank!

What were you thinking Surfer? Being rude to Frank? Everyone knows being rude is my job. Stay in your lane.

Sorry about that Frank. I've been very busy and haven't had time to be properly rude to you. I'm sure Surfer500 was just trying to cover for me.

Nobody doubts your conversation with the 6 red flags girl. It's just that nobody understands why. Anyone with more experience hiring hookers than the Pope, would have walked away after the 3rd red flag. Yet you said her scam was the trickiest one yet. There was nothing tricky about it.

Surfer500 rightfully called you out, that rude bastard. From your posts it appears you have never been to Colombia. It also appears you have very little mongering experience. I don't know if you realize it yet, but none of your jokes have been amusing. As a side note, if you were taking shrapnel in Cambodia while everyone else was watching MTV, you were taking it from a museum.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're probably from a Scandinavian country and you have never been outside of Europe, but that's just a guess.

Prove me wrong. Post something which shows you've been to Colombia.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 03:29
I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.Oral natural.

Sexo oral sin condon.

Chupa me sin condon.

Pone tres dedos en mi culo why llámame tú perra.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 03:34
Guys I'm planning to visit MDE soon, reading the forum daily and gathering a ton of info. I'll stay in a Airbnb. One thing that's making my head spin all this talk about Cedulas and condo doormen.

The last thing I want to do is book an apartment for 3 weeks and then have issues taking chicas back.

Here is what I'm unsure of / need clarification on.

Is it possible that I can book an apartment where the owner confirms I'm allowed guests but a doorman becomes a gatekeeper and denies entry?

I'm already scoping out Airbnb's and one states in the rules "visitor friendly" once over 18 with government ID, again who's checking this?

Generally speaking how are these doormen, can they be ok for a few days and then decide no more chicas or are they generally laid back and don't give a rats ass.

Maybe I'm overthinking this but I've never had to deal with condo gatekeepers while mongering.Most apartment buildings will have security controlling access, called porteros. Unless you're being a dick or causing problems, you have nothing to worry about.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 03:38
I have a question for you guys, have you ever invited a girl to come and visit you in the US instead of you going to Colombia? I am asking because I have a friend who has a reserved suite in Las Vegas and is willing to invite someone as an escort for a weekend.

I don't know if this is possible considering that you would have to have met the girl first and she would have to have a visa, but has anyone ever pulled it off?There are already hookers in Las Vegas. Probably much easier than spending 90-180 days trying to get a girl a visa just to find out she will almost certainly have her application rejected unless she owns property in Colombia.

Surfer500
10-25-20, 03:42
I am staying out of this battle with you and frankie..What about re-hiring me and letting me take you on a tour in El Centro, and the first lay is on me.

Maybe if Jbee2 is in town he could tag along as well.

Just imagine how much fun it would be, kind of like the three amigos on a stroll thru the park. Heck, we could even wear sombreros, I would wear my surf trunks and flip flops, you could wear your white shorts / sneakers and ball cap, and I have no clue what Jbee2 might wear, but I'm sure we would totally blend in with now one paying any attention to us.

A good time to be had for all.

Osteoknot
10-25-20, 04:00
The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.As in you personally tried or your best spooning buddy tried and told you all about it during those intimate spooning moments you shared? Jajaja don't mind the sarcasm, I received the "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters" error message so this is my second try, jajjaja.

Osteoknot
10-25-20, 04:04
Hey if you guys know any American working girls in Colombia hook me up by pm. I'm looking for someone who can call me daddy with an American accent while we fuck.

Ok, True story, in Kanada there is this girl that I was loving, so I'm trying to talk this girl into calling me daddy. So she says, "What? No way!" So I tell her, "But listen, after all the things we did in the bedroom you can't call me daddy? I practically had it balls deep in your ass, and that was nothing, it was like having breakfast." She slowly turned her head towards me, glared, she was breathing fire, and then with a heavy French accent, "Fuck you, I'm not calling you daddy!" Her eyes Became narrow like cats do.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhahahahaahahahahahahaha. ROLF LOL haahahahahahahhahahahahahhah the dog house! hahahahashasahhahahahhahahahahahahhaa

Lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour. And I'm doing you a favor here.Maybe "Papi" doesn't float your boat like "Daddy" but think of it like a Spanish lesson. And Papi is a term of endearment.

Member #4665
10-25-20, 04:21
I have no experience with Seeking, and if video conferencing is utilized then your smart to use it, and I agree with avoiding risks albeit regardless of videoconferences, all of the girls I would consider strangers and can be very good actors. However what sounds peculiar though is the terminology you have been using in some your posts which sound generic in many ways and not specific to any one Country, hence this was the reason I asked if you have ever been to Colombia.

After three dates in Colombia you would know that the ID in Colombia is called the "Cedula", and that whom you have been calling guards are called "Porteros". Also apartment complexes in Colombia are not referred to as condominiums.

So if you haven't been to Colombia, one might assume that your currently in the interview process with three future potential dates on Seeking who you have been videoconferencing with and will be able to confirm their identity upon meeting with them in person.Well I see this post is not arguing but more just talking. So I could participate in this civil conversation. Yes good point I think the seeking app has a videoconference feature and it may have been recently added. I'm not sure. What's app video is better.

Some people on this form are all about privacy. For example I only revealed my location after 190 posts. And I diidn't make clear which city I was. And well yeah I think in Columbia people say "edificio" for apartment complex In the building and for a housing complex the say "condominio. " Yes that's true I just pick a similar word in English not the best translation sometimee. And I didn't bother replacing the u within O when I wrote Colombia. In the previous sentence.

Also, a Portero can be just a man that stays up all night at the gate.This man is trained to open tthe door and communicate through the sitofono But in some apartments buildings and condominiums this Portero is actually a police man who is trained in school and later in the Academy and they wear a policeman uniform and often like all policemen they are allowed to carry weapons. So the word Portero can mean 2 types of watchmen.

I'm not going to make it easy for anyone to slip something into my drinkNor scam me. I despise this type of criminal and I think I can outsmart them. I look for dates with girls who have a less "dangerous" profile. It's a little bit more expensive. But since I made only a few dates. Money spent remains low. Also I don't go to bars which are also locally places where people get drugged. I even met a hard-working educated man that played semiprofessional sport in his twenties and some girls drugged him in a bar.

And I make lousy jokes all the time. I don't give a woman a dollar unless she says before hand that I am her man. Anybody remember that old hip-hop record "I treat a beaach like 7-Up. I never have. I never will." The most I Will Spend on a woman that doesn't Share the pussy is a free walkIn the park and I will buy her a vanilla ice cream So when she eats it she can get all over her mouth and it looks like Seaman. She can have the ice cream. I am appalled at the amount of women on seeking who expect to receive free handouts.

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lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here. And, She can have the ice cream.

Lefeu
10-25-20, 04:57
The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.A buddy of mine tried that with a chick from the Philippines. It took him 10 years and quite a bit of money for her to get a visa to the US. However, once she came to the US, my friend could not wait to send her back to the PI after a short stay. She was very disappointed, as she thought they were going to get married.

ColombiaLover
10-25-20, 05:31
Chupa sin condon.


I seem to remember in one of your posts that you said BBBJ was a must for you, please tell how you ask for this requirement in Spanish. Thanks.

ColombiaLover
10-25-20, 05:37
Totally agree. I know a chica who is well known to many on this board. She co-owns her little house with her mom. But she obviously has not legitimate job, she does not study, and she has no proof of any income. She, like many, used a visa service who lied for her. Putting her address in a better barrio, claiming she had a job, etc. But she still got denied. Despite the attempt at fraud.

There are a few chicas in Medellin who have a tourist visa for the USA Facebook girls. I cannot recall who, other than Maroly Garcia who has traveled to the USA Often (she had some gringo with contacts in the USA Government help her out).


The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.

ColombiaLover
10-25-20, 05:45
I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue.

Trying to figure out which two to see tomowwo. Have to make the best of it.

Forever18
10-25-20, 06:24
I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing. Doormen handle the taxis. Girls got ripped. With booze and tussi. Got some nice grinding in with a couple of the betters one, but had already decided I was not pulling anyone since I had a 10 am Cita. Got a few numbers for next time. I'm not into tussi or other drugs, so that was a turn off. But if I'm going to fuck them for a few hours in a controlled environment (my apartment), that won't be an issue..I know you mentioned the girls are nonpro except one, do they ask you for money after the intimate encounter or they just want to be around you because you are a foreigner with character?

Mr Enternational
10-25-20, 06:29
I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.

MarquisdeSade1
10-25-20, 06:37
I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.They got me in the lobby in Sharks in Darmstadt, I know it was way more than 7%, they got me good.

I typically know better, I should of had enough loot, but I took some puta to a room, and we did a bunch of upcharges and she.

Needed all my euros and then some more, so I had to use the ATM, I'm standing in the lobby in a towel with her freaking out that I didn't have enough cash LOL.

I wasn't paying attention it was 2am I was tired and they got me good on like 500 E.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 06:39
It may not be possible for the guard to deny entry, unless there is some sort of Legal justification?

These doorman are actually policeman. They have their uniform on. Depending on what you want the best may be an apartment building with a police man at the gate. Preferably with cameras. These guards are allowed to ask for the ID and write down the ID number of the girl. Security is good because the newspaperr report that these girls going to the apartment drug the guy in the apartment and then steal all his belongings and Steel all his credit cards. A few posts ago someone mentioned that the monger was eating and singing Beatles songs in his apartment With the girl and the next thing he knew he woke up druged. Also tell the security guard that you will walk the girl out of the building. And if the girl leaves alone there could be something wrong and he maay agree to go knock at your door to see if you're okay.

But if you prefer something more discrete Well then.Let me correct this.

The porteros are not policemen. They have no connection to the Colombian national police. They work for a private security company. The job description is unarmed security guard. One of their duties is to control building access.

How they control access depends on the building and sometimes on the apartment. Some buildings check the seeédula. Some make copies or write down the info. Some will call to tell you you have a visitor. Some have an intercom system. Some limit the number of visitors or the time when they are allowed.

If you are going through Airbnb, read carefully and ask about the visitor policy. Better yet go through one of the companies that cater to mongers.

Black Page
10-25-20, 12:14
I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.

It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.

Black Page
10-25-20, 12:23
A buddy of mine tried that with a chick from the Philippines. It took him 10 years and quite a bit of money for her to get a visa to the US. However, once she came to the US, my friend could not wait to send her back to the PI after a short stay. She was very disappointed, as she thought they were going to get married.Well, I am not surprised or her disappointment! He spent TEN YEARS AND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY to give her a visa, and she should think that all this was for a short tour to see USA?? Seriously?

NormalAsianKid
10-25-20, 12:44
Anyone got a good full service massage place they'd recommend? Was going to try energy but they are closed on Sundays.

Knowledge
10-25-20, 13:13
Correct. The ATMs of several banks in Colombia have for years now been presenting the foreign currency conversion option to people who use cards issued by foreign banks. Decline that option 100% of the time and there will be no problems.


Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank..

Knowledge
10-25-20, 13:17
I am confused by the terms "Colombian gringo" and "non-pro", especially "non-pro". Is non-pro a way to say you are a non-punter?


I arrived Wednesday and now have one more day until I leave on Monday. It has been a good trip. I do not have a lot to report, as the girls I've seen are non-pros, with the exception of one. I had to work hard to cultivate some of them, but it's paid off. Found a new one. She just turned 18 about two months ago. Nice.

Lots of girls still working hard to get dates. I told almost none of them that I am here, but somehow the word leaks out and the messages start flowing.

I went out last night with a fellow monger for some drinks at Lleras Park. He and his friend had invited about 10-12 girls. Obviously all of them were putas. I had been with one of the before, and she looked the best. She works out a lot! A couple of the others are friends of mine on facebook, but I've never pulled them.

Lleras Park got closed down early (at 11? Think they had too many customers. So we went to the Casa Blanca in Prado. What a dump. Used to be a low-end strip club. Now it's just a local bar with working girls hanging out. But it stays open late. I was the only gringo in the place (my fellow monger is a gringo Colombian). Never worried about my safety inside. Good distancing..

Nounce
10-25-20, 13:59
Well I see this post is not arguing but more just talking. So I could participate in this civil conversation. Yes good point I think the seeking app has a videoconference feature and it may have been recently added. I'm not sure. What's app video is better.You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. You also explain things in general and not talk about Medellin so that kind of lost the relevance. My SA experience is very different from yours. I have talked to many Medellin girls on Medellin and they all know why they are on the site even for some that are just exploring. if you have talked to Medellin girls, you will know the more common terms even after translator.

Kazeu
10-25-20, 14:22
I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.


Mr. E, I am frankly surprised of your surprise! You have travelled all around the world, and I understand you are expert of all pitfalls we may encounter in travelling.

You discovered the obvious, sorry to tell you that. ANYWHERE in the world, NEVER accept conversion by the ATM of the local currency to your account currency. It is near to be a scam, but they present it as "so you know for sure how much you will be charged on your bank account". ALWAYS withdraw an amount specified in the local currency. In your bank account, you will be charged the amount in local currency (e.g., COP) converted to your currency (e.g., USD) at the international interbank rate (you see it on XE.COM or Yahoo Finance) plus some 1.5% fee charged by the international circuit (most commonly Maestro/MasterCard or VISA) plus some fixed fee your bank may charge (some banks waive that).
As it was stated many times in the board, if you avoid currency conversion by the ATM, withdrawing money from ATMs can be more convenient than changing cash.

The same holds when you pay with your credit card. In many countries (and Colombia is one of those), the paying device has an option "accept conversion to EUR (or USD, whatever is your native currency) YES / NO". NEVER accept conversion. ALWAYS pay in COP. The nasty point is that many waiters in restaurants do not understand the difference and will select YES for you, thinking to do a favour to the customer. Always check and be sure they select NO. Sometimes, I had a strong discussion with the cashier in various places, even in places as Carbon de Palo supposed to be used to deal with foreigners, and I was rerely able to convince them that if they select YES I am going to pay some significant extra money to the bank.

It is good you raised this point, as many people are totally unaware of this.

Mr Enternational
10-25-20, 14:31
You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. That is what I was saying before. Videoconference is a term used in a formal workplace. And to have to schedule this like a formal job? Hey ho. Thursday at 1630 we will be having a videoconference and I expect you to be there and to have made all the necessary preparations. Who does that? Then he was like she missed the videoconference. Like uh oh, dereliction of duty. She is about to get put on probation. Never answered why he could not just tell her to turn on her cam all the other times he was sending messages with her. Like it is some big to do. Takes all of 30 seconds to turn on the cam and verify that is the person you are really talking to. I have nothing against him. It is just odd.

Mr Enternational
10-25-20, 14:37
I don't think Mr. E is unaware of this "trick" by the banks. Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia. Yes these conversion offers are total bullshit.Exactly. This is my 3rd time here this year and I had never seen it before last night. Matter of fact I went to Colpatria first. Put my card in and it asks Spanish or English. Pressed both buttons and inserted my card multiple times and it would not get past that screen. Then I went to Davivienda and that machine would only allow a withdrawl of 300,000. By the time I got to the Banco de Bogota machine I was frustrated and just wanted to get some money out quickly. In that state I could have easily missed what was going on, but I caught it and decided to pass the word along so other people will have their eyes open.

Gringo Trooper
10-25-20, 15:30
Exactly. This is my 3rd time here this year and I had never seen it before last night.Thank you for the intel. I was there in January of this year and I did not see this on the ATM screen, so I would agree that this must be new.

Moreover, after using my debit card at places like Starbucks, etc. (in January), the amount that they charged me at the coffee shop in pesos turned out to be the correct conversion amount in USD when I checked my bank statement online.

I'll try it out at Starbucks when I get down there next month. It's hard to imagine that coffee shops and restaurants would be doing this conversion bull also.

Black Page
10-25-20, 15:38
Rather I believe he is surprised that it happens in Colombia. I saw this conversion screen for the first time at the end of last year and it has spread to more banks this year. Overall it is a relatively new thing in Colombia.Unfortunately not. I have been noticing that BS in many ATMs of USA, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore for the last several years. No, I am sorry, I am not able to enumerate precisely where and when, but I mention those countries because they are the extra-EU places I have visited most often in the last years.

Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this. I feel totally sympathetic with your anger. I fell in this trap more than once. I may only speculate that either you did not notice it before, or your specific usual ATM did not have this option before, but they introduced it only recently. Who knows. However, no, it is not new in Colombia.

Particularly nasty is having that conversion option in the credit card payments, because when it is available the waiter or the seller is used to select YES without even asking the unaware customer.

Mr Enternational
10-25-20, 16:02
Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this.LOL. Man you know I am not thinking that way.

Surfer500
10-25-20, 16:09
You do not use the common terms that most usually use. Also you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. "Videoconference" is just one example. You also explain things in general and not talk about Medellin so that kind of lost the relevance. My SA experience is very different from yours. I have talked to many Medellin girls on Medellin and they all know why they are on the site even for some that are just exploring. if you have talked to Medellin girls, you will know the more common terms even after translator.Exactly what I have been saying.

Member #4665
10-25-20, 16:40
Great ATM tip about the conversion issue.

In col never use ATM in street. Enter a shopping mall use ATM nthere with morre cams and guards it is safer.

LOL about videoconference with the "secretary" .
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Member #4665
10-25-20, 16:58
you use them to describe your experience like you have not experienced them. Yup. Anonymous. And I always say " I heard... " or " a friend... " .Anonymous.

Surfer500
10-25-20, 17:05
Unfortunately not. I have been noticing that BS in many ATMs of USA, Colombia, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore for the last several years. No, I am sorry, I am not able to enumerate precisely where and when, but I mention those countries because they are the extra-EU places I have visited most often in the last years.

Mr E., pls understand I did not mean to argue with you on this. I feel totally sympathetic with your anger. I fell in this trap more than once. I may only speculate that either you did not notice it before, or your specific usual ATM did not have this option before, but they introduced it only recently. Who knows. However, no, it is not new in Colombia.

Particularly nasty is having that conversion option in the credit card payments, because when it is available the waiter or the seller is used to select YES without even asking the unaware customer.My personal experience with ATM's that present all the conversion options, which I have encountered in Europe, is that they are selectively placed at travel hubs like airports / train stations / tourist destinations where arriving passengers / tourists are in dire need of local currency, and people easily get confused and fall into the trap set by the Banks. I remember arriving at a train station somewhere in Europe, and there were rows of ATM machines, kind of like a bunch of one armed bandits lying in wait for a tired and dazed traveller.

As far as Colombia, I have yet to encounter the multi conversion ATM's on either a Bancolombia or Scotia Bank ATM at least in Medellin. And as far as the credit card conversion option, I always say in COP, as what you mention about the waiters / sellers automatically selecting this option is so true as you get totally dinged on it. Also interesting with credit cards in Colombia is how they always ask you "cuantos quotas", meaning how many payments do you want the charge spread over.

Member #4665
10-25-20, 17:15
Never answered why he could not just tell her to turn on her cam all the other times he was sending messages with her. Didn't think of it. Good advice. Will try This just turn on the camera for 10 seconds screening technique. However the what app video call is still good to talk 4 an 1/2 hour ask important questions and get a feel for the girl in seeking.

Elvis 2008
10-25-20, 17:16
The chances of an unemployed young female Colombian, with no family in the US, granted a tourist visa to come to the US is virtually zero. And it would take a lot of time and money to discover she is denied.The better and easier route is an education visa. However, I think a tourist visa is doable on a planned trip with a strict schedule. I thought you might be able to pay for a tour and just have the woman come stay with you, but I understood customs is pretty strict about people following the itinerary.

IamLookin
10-25-20, 17:36
I really don't understand why go thru all this? I use Facebook and look for recent pics of the girls.

I contact them and share whatsapp accounts. We agree on the amount and she comes to my apartment. To be totally honest I have never experienced a situation where the girl didn't look like her pics. Some girls are better than others in bed. Not even sure why guys go to seeking arrangements when these same girls have Facebook accounts.


Didn't think of it. Good advice. Will try This just turn on the camera for 10 seconds screening technique. However the what app video call is still good to talk 4 an 1/2 hour ask important questions and get a feel for the girl in seeking..

JjBee62
10-25-20, 18:07
I arrived in Bogota tonight and went to the Banco de Bogota ATM in the airport. It seems these mfs have start trying to pull a trick that a few banks in Thailand have been doing the past couple of years. You key in how much money you want then it pops up on the screen an amount with them offering to exchange your currency to pesos. ALWAYS SELECT NO unless you like getting fucked instead of doing the fucking. They will charge you 7% exchange on top of the 13,000 fee if you select yes. When you select no the money just comes out normal and you get the rate that your home bank is giving you.If I remember correctly, Davivienda and Servibanco ATMs ask this too.

SlapShot10
10-25-20, 18:51
Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.

Nounce
10-25-20, 19:01
Yup. Anonymous. And I always say " I heard... " or " a friend... " .Anonymous.You you are in Medellin now, right? It does not sound like you have a good time. Your posts are still focus on the virtual world and mostly about the negatives.

Lefeu
10-25-20, 19:20
Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.
DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

...All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.I agree, a nice and fun place. A WG took me there a few years ago. I was impressed with the place. But I heard that you need to reserve in advance, it can be busy at times. And it was reasonably priced.

Member #4665
10-25-20, 19:41
I really don't understand why go thru all this? I use Facebook and look for recent pics of the girls.

I contact them and share whatsapp accounts. We agree on the amount and she comes to my apartment. To be totally honest I have never experienced a situation where the girl didn't look like her pics. Some girls are better than others in bed. Not even sure why guys go to seeking arrangements when these same girls have Facebook accounts.

.I'm not sure but the Facebook game maybe it's not so big in other cities outside med. I already asked for Faceboook contacts in Cali. Found a few online In the local forum but nothing too good. In this particular situation, It was easier to be picky On seeking.There are some high-level hotties on seeking. Not that many though.

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10-25-20, 19:44
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Member #4665
10-25-20, 19:47
You you are in Medellin now, right? It does not sound like you have a good time. Your posts are still focus on the virtual world and mostly about the negatives.I am nearby. But I still learned invaluable lessons in this forum. Had one date and scheduled two other dates. The best part isI could find reasonable rent prices. It's Positive fun to read about all the scam and learn to be safe and try to outsmart the danger. But yeah it can come off as negative. Not a good time? Yeah I guess it Sounds that way. But there are a lot of good things here. It's nice to be lucky. Just waiting in transit.

IamLookin
10-25-20, 19:56
What scams are you referring to? Seems by going to seeking arrangements and not following the advise on this board you are making this a lot more difficult than it is. Seeking arrangements in Medellin?

Sounds to a lot of working girls as a easy way to make money from guys not knowing the ropes.


I am nearby. But I still learned a valuable lesson in this forum. Had one date and scheduled two other dates. The best part isI could find reasonable rent prices. It's Positive fun to read about all the scam and learn to be safe and try to outsmart the danger. But yeah it can come off as negative. Not a good time? Yeah I guess it Sounds that way. But there are a lot of good things here. It's nice to be lucky. Just waiting in transit..

Member #4665
10-25-20, 20:05
What scams are you referring to? Seems by going to seeking arrangements and not following the advise on this board you are making this a lot more difficult than it is. Seeking arrangements in Medellin?

Sounds to a lot of working girls as a easy way to make money from guys not knowing the ropes.
.There Worst scam is the food poisoning. That's why get their pictures, video, real name, ID number or if not the guard gets the ID number. Then entitled girls On seeking looking for guys that Give free handouts. I don't respect this type of woman and I'm not interested in becoming their friend. Of course it's An exception if both the guy and a girl clearly state from the beginning They want platonic relationship. In the 3rd scam is girls On seeking asking for upfront gifts making up some weird emergency. When they Finally come over there is nothing around they can put in their pockets. I still haven't let anyone victimize me. Also 50 year old guy selling pictures of a 20 year old girl. I Am guessing these same scams happen in all major Colombian cities.

JjBee62
10-25-20, 20:20
I agree, a nice and fun place. A WG took me there a few years ago. I was impressed with the place. But I heard that you need to reserve in advance, it can be busy at times. And it was reasonably priced.You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.

They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.

IamLookin
10-25-20, 21:01
Again, why bother with SA? I have never heard of someone doing so much work in Medellin just to meet girls. If you read the forum there are guys that have written the names of contacts they have they can recommend. Food posioning? Are you planning to dine them? If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?


There Worst scam is the food poisoning. That's why get their pictures, video, real name, ID number or if not the guard gets the ID number. Then entitled girls On seeking looking for guys that Give free handouts. I don't respect this type of woman and I'm not interested in becoming their friend. Of course it's An exception if both the guy and a girl clearly state from the beginning They want platonic relationship. In the 3rd scam is girls On seeking asking for upfront gifts making up some weird emergency. When they Finally come over there is nothing around they can put in their pockets. I still haven't let anyone victimize me. Also 50 year old guy selling pictures of a 20 year old girl. I Am guessing these same scams happen in all major Colombian cities.

Black Page
10-25-20, 21:12
Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.
2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need
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6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.I am happy you discovered Ibiza. The best. But now I have a question: Hell, HOW MANY GIRLS did you take there??
If they were less than 5, taking that suite is what I call overprovisioning...!! Congratulations, however. I feel envious.

GeneHickman
10-25-20, 21:19
Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.Nice report to spread some knowledge about the landscape. Keep the field reports coming. Since SJobs turned out to be a hot air blowing fictional character, really wondering what the current situation is with the chicas in MDE. The few I am in regular contact with say times are hard but somehow seem to be scraping by. They are definitely asking when I will be returning etc. So they definitley want the citas, but I am just trying to size up the situation.

I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!

Cheers.

GeneHickman
10-25-20, 21:26
LOL. Man you know I am not thinking that way.Davivienda has been doing that since atleast 2018 that I know about. Whenever they ask if you would like to exchange, clicking no defaults you to the mastercard / visa rate which is much more favorable. For the uninformed it almost appears like the transaction will be terminated if you click no. But its just their way of trying to get you to accept their shitty rate.
I typically use davivienda because they charge no ATM fee and they are literally everywhere making finding a discrete and safe location (usually inside a mall for me) easy.

Black Page
10-25-20, 21:44
I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!
Cheers.Not the only good place. There are tons of good love motels. I remember Punto Cero and others, plus this one, which I reported as "Super Chimba de Hotel":
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1548014&viewfull=1#post154801
Look at the WT99's Medellin List. Ibiza is the best, probably.
(I notice some posts around those dates, where I was pretending to be scared by exagerated warnings by the US Dept. Guys, I was joking, but it was not a good joke).

Member #4665
10-25-20, 21:49
If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?Not paranoid, Some people just enjoy not blinking and keeping the eyes on the predator. It's fun and it keeps one alive attentive and in the moment. It's like doing detective or monitoring work. Instead of feeling anxious Or worrying about danger it makes one feel confident and prepared. This "police work" isn't for everyone, you have to have the right frame of mind.

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lay down the law, fellas. 25,000 per hour, and I'm doing you a favor, here. And, She can have the ice cream.

SpiderRider
10-25-20, 21:56
As in you personally tried or your best spooning buddy tried and told you all about it during those intimate spooning moments you shared? Jajaja don't mind the sarcasm, I received the "The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters" error message so this is my second try, jajjaja.I have known many girls over the past 10 years try to get a visa to the US. Unless they can demonstrate they clearly have motivation to return to Colombia, for example a professional level employment (for example a beautiful young lawyer I knew form Puerto Colombia was granted a visa to go to Disney World), legal husband and children, or property, they are rubber stamp denied. Forget it.

VsebudetNY
10-25-20, 22:10
You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.
They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.Here is the site with virtual tours of suites and rates:

https://motelibiza.com/

JohnnyO
10-25-20, 22:31
Better yet go through one of the companies that cater to mongers.What companies are these, do you have any recommendations?

Info1
10-25-20, 23:50
I have known many girls over the past 10 years try to get a visa to the US. Unless they can demonstrate they clearly have motivation to return to Colombia, for example a professional level employment (for example a beautiful young lawyer I knew form Puerto Colombia was granted a visa to go to Disney World), legal husband and children, or property, they are rubber stamp denied. Forget it.I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.

JjBee62
10-26-20, 01:30
What companies are these, do you have any recommendations?Try Lifeafar investments, formerly First American Realty. They have a lot of apartments especially around Poblado. There's also Poblado Rentals, but I wouldn't recommend them. Too many people have horror stories about dealing with the owner. There's also Provenza True Content you can find on Facebook. Apartments I the Energy Living building and in San Peter apartments are generally chica friendly as well.

JjBee62
10-26-20, 01:37
I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.Not sure there are any scholarships being offered to go and sell pussy in Las Vegas.

I know a webcam model with a tourist Visa to the US. Pretty sure she owns her penthouse apartment. Know another webcam model who has been living in the US for several years. I know she has an ex, so she might have come on a fiancée visa. I know a couple of other girls who got visas to compete in tournaments in the US, one for cheerleading and one for volleyball. Pretty sure those were just short term performance visas.

As far as a Colombian getting a US Visa at this time, without a bunch of money, or a US fiancee, it's not very likely.

Knowledge
10-26-20, 01:44
I struggle with that question too. As best I can tell there is an idea that the girls are somehow more innocent / classy / safe than others. I am a Centro rat so consider the source of these doubts.


Again, why bother with SA? I have never heard of someone doing so much work in Medellin just to meet girls. If you read the forum there are guys that have written the names of contacts they have they can recommend. Food posioning? Are you planning to dine them? If you are that paranoid maybe you should pick another hobby?

MMHikeus
10-26-20, 02:57
I knew a girl Medellín for a couple of years, met her a few times. Her WhatsApp went unresponsive after the covid shutdown. As far as I know she is not on Facebook or other social media. I have a copy of her cedula. Any ideas how I can contact her? Just wanted to check if she is OK. I last met her in March and the last message from her on whatsapp was in April / May.

Blakman
10-26-20, 03:52
You said the magic word freebie LOL, though I am a solo artist. Sounds inviting. Maybe.


What about re-hiring me and letting me take you on a tour in El Centro, and the first lay is on me.

Maybe if Jbee2 is in town he could tag along as well.

Just imagine how much fun it would be, kind of like the three amigos on a stroll thru the park. Heck, we could even wear sombreros, I would wear my surf trunks and flip flops, you could wear your white shorts / sneakers and ball cap, and I have no clue what Jbee2 might wear, but I'm sure we would totally blend in with now one paying any attention to us.

A good time to be had for all..

Dg8787
10-26-20, 04:13
I was close to a university student at one of Mexico's autonomous universities who earned a two week scholarship to San Antonio. It was more of a foreign exchange program where one side paid to go and the other side couldn't afford it. When she won it they automatically stamped her for a 10 year visa. Small school, she paid attention to what was offered, and hit it on the second try. If she's truly. Then there are scholarships.USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?

Member #4665
10-26-20, 04:30
The porteros are not policemen.Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."

Kazeu
10-26-20, 04:35
Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.I've never mistaken a portero or a security guard for a policeman. The police here are really quite distinctive. They are dressed more like army personel than police men. And they usually have a bright reflective "policia" vest so they really stand out.

Mr Enternational
10-26-20, 04:49
USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.

JjBee62
10-26-20, 05:40
Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."Funny you should mention that. Earlier today I was chatting with a girl in Medellin. When she asked what I was doing, I told her I was resting today. Too much work. She asked if I had to put in extra time at work to be able to take my vacation. However, the literal translation was "Do you have to work harder to come?

My answer "it depends on the position" earned a laugh from her.

FlowState985
10-26-20, 06:07
I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.

Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.I always send airbnb host a message asking if it's okay to bring visitor to the building. Most say no, but some say yes and go with it. It is hard to find a good place that is visitor friendly.

And the numbing agent is lidocaine, you can buy it separately from lube.

TopoChico571
10-26-20, 06:43
How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.

Mojo Bandit
10-26-20, 07:52
Let me correct this.

The job description is unarmed security guard. I realize that everything else you said in your post is accurate and the part about "unarmed security guard" is even probably true in most buildings. But the head security guy at Edificio Energy Living carries is a semi-automatic pistol in a holster.

Mojo Bandit
10-26-20, 07:57
Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here?
I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."Funny does not come across well in a typed post where people come looking for information. Sarcasm, and all that just does not come over in typed print and the context is all wrong. Not to mention not everyone has the same sense of humor. If your friends and family think you are funny it is because they know you and the context is conducive to humor.

Nounce
10-26-20, 08:16
Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.The student visa is for a specific school and the visa holder must be a full time student. The length of a student visa does not mean anything if the student is not a student at the same school anymore. Tuition is not cheap in US so the student must be able to afford it or be able to get a scholarship. For some student visa is easy but for most it is not easy.

Incrociatore
10-26-20, 13:32
How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.

Blakman
10-26-20, 13:51
Theres a possibility that your 72 hour covid test is delayed with results which could be disastrous. So take one a day before and day of 72 hrs. Double the chances of getting test results.

Luminous
10-26-20, 14:50
I see majority of people wearing masks while walking but I don't see anyone getting stopped if they aren't.

Some stores will not serve you unless you wear a mask.

The funniest thing I see that some restaurants / stores spray your hand and soles of shoes with disinfectants when you walk in. The hands I get but shoe soles? No idea why that is important given that a person can be carrying germs on their clothes and every part of their exposed skin!!


How strict is mask wearing in Medellin? Do you have to wear them walking down the street? Thanks.

Mr Enternational
10-26-20, 14:55
Theres a possibility that your 72 hour covid test is delayed with results which could be disastrous. So take one a day before and day of 72 hrs. Double the chances of getting test results.Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test.

Info1
10-26-20, 14:55
USA 10 year student visa? Come on man! There is no such visa.

For a 2 week scholarship? To San Antonio?It was a 10 year visa to enter the country, not a student visa. Instead of giving her a limited visa for the time she was going to be in SA.

Kazeu
10-26-20, 15:08
Thought some of you folks in Medellin might appreciate this. This is a boiled down list of girls from mileroticos and photoprepagos from the last 7 days. Just open the file in your browser of choice. Had to zip it because ISG won't let me upload html files.

YippieKayay
10-26-20, 15:13
I see majority of people wearing masks while walking but I don't see anyone getting stopped if they aren't.

Some stores will not serve you unless you wear a mask.

The funniest thing I see that some restaurants / stores spray your hand and soles of shoes with disinfectants when you walk in. The hands I get but shoe soles? No idea why that is important given that a person can be carrying germs on their clothes and every part of their exposed skin!!Covid virus doesn't stay in the air forever. It drops to the ground. This is one reason you should never eat anything that has been on the ground. In Mexico places had a mat with disinfectant and a mat to dry off as you walked into places.

Surfer500
10-26-20, 15:52
Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test.Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.

MedellinLove
10-26-20, 17:44
Definitely possible. My ex-girlfriend from Brazil applied for a transit visa and they gave her a 10 year tourist visa as well. He never said the visa she received was a student visa. He just said that is what she applied for.It's highly unlikely it was 10 years but just enough for school.

SlapShot10
10-26-20, 18:09
I am happy you discovered Ibiza. The best. But now I have a question: Hell, HOW MANY GIRLS did you take there??
If they were less than 5, taking that suite is what I call overprovisioning...!! Congratulations, however. I feel envious.Just 2, but my hotel is girl-friendly (they check cedula). So, it was one of those situations where if I was going to do it, I was going all-in. Now, I know that if it is a short-time, I only need the basic / cheapest option. If I have a large party, I know exactly what to expect. 550.000 or 89.000 is not going to change my night or trip or life, so I don't regret what could be viewed as an overpayment. It was an experience.


You only need to reserve in advance for one of the special suites. I've probably been there 20 times or more. I believe the base price for 6 hours is 89 k for 2 people. Extra charge for extra persons, plus charges for any mini-bar items.

They have a full menu available and a full sex store catalog as well.I'm not 100% sure on this, but they did not allow me to reserve the Presidencial or Mansion. I was told to arrive early or have some one go by ahead of time to pay. I arrived just after 10 p and both were available on a Friday night.


Nice report to spread some knowledge about the landscape. Keep the field reports coming. Since SJobs turned out to be a hot air blowing fictional character, really wondering what the current situation is with the chicas in MDE. The few I am in regular contact with say times are hard but somehow seem to be scraping by. They are definitely asking when I will be returning etc. So they definitley want the citas, but I am just trying to size up the situation.

I wish I knew about this option of ibiza the day I was at Porton Medellin and paid a chica fee of 150 mil! As much as the cita!

Cheers.SJobs. What a bust. The forum has kind of flown off the rails, since the air was let out of that balloon. I was looking forward to those reports, after all the build up. Oh well. I witnessed a very good-looking mid 20's MILF in a gringo sports bar by herself, last night. I expected a gringo to walk in and join her, but instead, a 65-70 yo gringo finally bellied-up to her table. What a legend. Typical high-end Paisa look, nice tan, body, fake tits, smile, hair, clothing. I'd imagine she wasn't planning on negotiating, but who knows. There were a couple crews of girls at Bendito Seas, last Thursday night. There were also plenty of girls roaming Parque Lleras, the last few times I walked by. One pair of sisters that were pretty decent.

Husker Dude
10-26-20, 18:12
Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.Similar prices here in Dallas, TX.

Showdown
10-26-20, 18:30
Just 2, but my hotel is girl-friendly (they check cedula). So, it was one of those situations where if I was going to do it, I was going all-in. Now, I know that if it is a short-time, I only need the basic / cheapest option. If I have a large party, I know exactly what to expect. 550.000 or 89.000 is not going to change my night or trip or life, so I don't regret what could be viewed as an overpayment. It was an experience.

I'm not 100% sure on this, but they did not allow me to reserve the Presidencial or Mansion. I was told to arrive early or have some one go by ahead of time to pay. I arrived just after 10 p and both were available on a Friday night.

SJobs. What a bust. The forum has kind of flown off the rails, since the air was let out of that balloon. I was looking forward to those reports, after all the build up. Oh well. I witnessed a very good-looking mid 20's MILF in a gringo sports bar by herself, last night. I expected a gringo to walk in and join her, but instead, a 65-70 yo gringo finally bellied-up to her table. What a legend. Typical high-end Paisa look, nice tan, body, fake tits, smile, hair, clothing. I'd imagine she wasn't planning on negotiating, but who knows. There were a couple crews of girls at Bendito Seas, last Thursday night. There were also plenty of girls roaming Parque Lleras, the last few times I walked by. One pair of sisters that were pretty decent.Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.

Fun Luvr
10-26-20, 18:40
No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.There are always exceptions. Some friends and I went to the food court at the Unicentro mall. A couple took off their mask while we were seated waiting for our food. A security guard came by and said everyone must wear a mask while waiting. I think the directive is that you must wear a mask at all times when you are outside, but it's up to the police to enforce it.

Fun Luvr
10-26-20, 18:47
Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.I had two PCR tests and neither of them had the word "Negative" anywhere on the report. Both stated "Not detected".

JjBee62
10-26-20, 19:17
I'm currently in an airbnb near parque lleras and the doormen here are kind of a pain. Keep in mind I don't speak fluent spanish, but from what I gathered they are hesitant to allow visitors because they are afraid of a visitor bringing covid into the building. Again, I'm not 100% sure that's what the guard was saying to me but I'm pretty sure it was along the lines of that. Or that the girl I walked in was pretty obviously a working girl based on how she dressed and just her general demeanor but I never had a problem with it before in the Philippines. Or maybe the guard frowned upon letting working girls in and that was his polite way of saying to cut it out. And to be fair the airbnb listing did say "no sexual tourism" I guess.

Anyways just my experience so far, I guess I'll try using short time hotels from now on. Or try to build more of a rapport with the girl beforehand and say she's a friend or date or something. The girl I invited was straight from mileroticos. Great natural body, morena but mechanical service, I still have her contact info if anyone wants it but she's nothing special. Also, be careful about some of the lube some girls use for anal. Some of the lube they use has a numbing agent in it I guess to make anal more bearable for them but your dick will go numb if it gets on you too. Trust me.There's so much here.

If you rent a place that specifically states "no sexual tourism", why would you think it's just a doorman problem when you try to bring in an obvious prostitute? If you went to a vegan restaurant and they don't have steak on the menu would you suspect the waiter of trying to ruin your meal?

There's no asterisk under any of the "no sex tourism" signs or listings (*this applies to everyone but you). If you're bringing in hookers anyway, I expect you will very shortly be looking for another place to stay and you probably won't be getting a refund since you violated the host rules. My suggestion is to start looking for another place immediately, because the portero has probably already informed your host.

JjBee62
10-26-20, 19:39
Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.This is an excellent example of terrible advice.

Get tested. You might have to jump through hoops, there may be difficulties or added expenses to get the results within the 96 hour window. If you have no other option, you probably should stay home.

Colombia isn't stupid. If everyone just skips the test and uses a fake template, they will eventually catch on. When that happens it's probably going to become a lot more difficult for everyone else.

That's without considering that you might be bringing in the virus, sharing it with a bunch of working girls, who are going to share it with a bunch of other mongers.

JjBee62
10-26-20, 19:56
No you don't have to, but they require you to use it when you enter in a shop or even in a restaurant, which is so stupid, because as soon as you seat you can remove it. But people are stupid, there is nothing you can do about that.You can always call people out for being stupid. However, most people seem to get upset when I do it.

It's a rule. If the restaurant or store is enforcing the rule, they are merely doing what they feel is best. They understand there may be consequences for not enforcing the rule. If you don't want to wear a mask, don't go to a country or city that requires you to wear a mask.

If the restaurant wants you to wear a mask, don't be stupid. Wear a mask. Don't argue with them. Don't be another obnoxious gringo. Just wear the mask. It's not going to hurt you. It's a minor inconvenience at most.

Sean EZ
10-26-20, 20:12
Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.

Stirling
10-26-20, 22:05
Gentlemen just use a fake test template and fill in your name. Your airline nor immigration / customs is checking anything other then the word negative and PCR on the test result. People are flying into Colombia with hundreds of different letters saying they are not negative. They cannot verify any of them.

Showdown.IF you're "not negative" you're positive!

JohnnyO
10-27-20, 00:03
Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.What new 2 visitor policy are you referring to, is this an individual hotel, all hotels, city wide or country wide? Care to elaborate?

Villainy
10-27-20, 00:11
I had two PCR tests and neither of them had the word "Negative" anywhere on the report. Both stated "Not detected".Not surprised at all. Aren't we all familiar with the STD test that comes back "Non-Reactive".

Blakman
10-27-20, 00:43
It works out sometimes to be cheapy charley. Sincerely though i saw a couple and family not allowed to travel for lack of documentation. Luckily i did consecutive. Cuz my 72 results came after i hit paydirt.


Problem with that is some people are mentioning paying $200 for a test..

FlowState985
10-27-20, 00:52
Thought some of you folks in Medellin might appreciate this. This is a boiled down list of girls from mileroticos and photoprepagos from the last 7 days. Just open the file in your browser of choice. Had to zip it because ISG won't let me upload html files.Any reviews on these girls or just collection of the girls on milerticos?

Osteoknot
10-27-20, 01:03
Yeah sorry for the mistake there. I double checked they work for private security company. It was becausee with their uniforms they look very much like officers of the law, so it's easy to naturally assume they are armedd. But they are not armed.

Yeah but I think is we are not all perfect and sometimes there are flawws in our posts but we should all try to keep it civil and remain friends. Sorry about that.

Hey how come if you guys think my jokes are not Funny, how come I think my jokes are funny? I'm not trolling here Guys this is an honest question.Honestly, guys.

Are there actually any funny guys in here? The escorts give you discounts for being funny?because don't women love funny guys?
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I told her, "You can have a free ice cream, baby."If you can make her smile she will hold you hand, if you can make her laugh, she will follow you up the stairs to the bedroom.

Of those chicas I have asked, 90% have said it's true. Works for me. Just another tool in the armamentarium.

Finally, I don't know if this is a practical tip or not, but the least funny thing in the world is to analyze humor or talk about what is funny and what is not and why. Not saying you can't do it, us comedy writers do it all the time. But for Gawd's sake don't do it and expect a laugh.

Random gratuitous one of my girls sent me: "This is what's waiting for for you when you get back to Medellin".

Showdown
10-27-20, 01:13
IF you're "not negative" you're positive!Sterling my negative test says this:

"Your COVID-19 test results are negative.

Thank you for taking a COVID-19 test. Your negative test results mean that you probably weren't infected when your sample was collected. However, your results do not rule out COVID-19. We used a Viral PCR test. Specimens processed by PCR-based technology are the only federally approved tests that can be used to make a diagnosis of COVID-19.

Showdown.

Osteoknot
10-27-20, 01:24
I knew a girl Medelln for a couple of years, met her a few times. Her WhatsApp went unresponsive after the covid shutdown. As far as I know she is not on Facebook or other social media. I have a copy of her cedula. Any ideas how I can contact her? Just wanted to check if she is OK. I last met her in March and the last message from her on whatsapp was in April / May.Since you did not specify "cheap" way to find her.

Gratuitous foto, that I guarantee you won't see anywhere else unless they steal it from here:

Lugnut
10-27-20, 01:43
Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.It sounds like you are at Factory Lofts.

SpiderRider
10-27-20, 03:08
Took the girls to Motel Ibiza on Friday night. It was my first time at a love motel in Medellin.

DiDi to the location, intercom to request a room (Presidencial), DiDi drives into your private garage, you walk upstairs, and.

2 beds, 10 person jacuzzi, bluetooth speakers throughout with a microphone, stripper pole, couches, 2 showers, 2 bathrooms, 2 tvs, 2 refrigerators full of anything you could possibly need (booze, drinks, food, vibrators, lube, condoms, and much much more). Menu for food, drinks, costumes / lingerie, etc. Our jacuzzi had an issue for the first hour, but after several calls they got it working. We also called to turn on the A / see and also to add some cold water to the 105 degree monstrous jacuzzi. We brought a bag of drinks but ended up having a few from the fridge, and bought a vibrator. 6 hours in total, bill was about 550.000 COP. They have much cheaper options, as well as shorter periods of time.

All-in-all, it was a good option. Especially, if you can't find an apartment with a jacuzzi, or you are priced out of options. Every girl I talked to about joining us already knew about the place. In normal times, I would imagine a night out in Palmahia with a group, followed by spending your night at Motel Ibiza or the like, would be a fun way to spend the night. A couple buddies with 4 girls could be one hell of a night.

Also, I extended my tourist permit until mid-December. The process was excruciating, because of how terrible the website was, but the eventual cost was 103.000 COP. My plan is to go home and come back in early January. Found a very nice apartment for Nov-Dec, but I have a week gap before then. I am looking into a finca to host a Halloween party, maybe. I'm just not sure if I want to commit to stocking up on groceries for the week, etc.

Cheers.Gentlemen, Love Hotels are a good option to consider for first meetings(where sex is the implied or expressed activity), special dates, small parties, and just getting out of the routine. Ibiza is the upper end in price. There are many, many others. They may even work for you when you have an unfilled of 1-3 night gap in your living accommodations. Mid-week they are extremely affordable. Hot water showers, jacuzzi if you wish. Anything can be delivered by the hotel or Rappi. Years ago I stayed in one in Barranquilla for several nights. Cheap with vital Air Conditioning! Drawbacks: Typically no windows, no WiFi, not a good place if you're going to be in all day. You might even meet some ladies hanging around. Be very discrete and respect the privacy and anonymity of couples.

Combo
10-27-20, 03:38
Same day test results in Southern California are running from between $275 to $400 for the PCR test. If they take the sample at 8 AM they have results that afternoon. Not cheap and I guess it's good Colombia is allowing a 96 hour window versus 72 hours like other Countries.275+ to get a swab shoved up half-way to my brain? I'm having second thoughts.

DetJunky
10-27-20, 04:37
Landed in Medellin after an 8 month break, stayed close to lleras. Most of the restaurants close to calle 40 survived and are thriving, the once interior specially calle 37 was devastated with lots of closures. It is a mixed bag, Provenza is wide open, so is the front section of lleras. Gustos is open with 50 girls and 50 guys, lots of WG in lleras park walking as usual looking for clients. I would say lleras is at 75 percent of 2019 activity. Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.

I call my regular girls from my Whatsup list and had a blast as usual, I was glad to see them so were they.

Night clubs are still closed, but I have seen a lot of construction activity during day, I guess they are getting ready to open.

Been to Envigado for Lunch and most restaurants are open, they check temp, spray your shoe, give you the gel. Everyone has a mask on, weird but the new normal I guess.

Let us hope Covid is behind us.

JjBee62
10-27-20, 04:39
Not surprised at all. Aren't we all familiar with the STD test that comes back "Non-Reactive".I thought that was the result for the ED test.

JjBee62
10-27-20, 04:53
Gentlemen, Love Hotels are a good option to consider for first meetings(where sex is the implied or expressed activity), special dates, small parties, and just getting out of the routine. Ibiza is the upper end in price. There are many, many others. They may even work for you when you have an unfilled of 1-3 night gap in your living accommodations. Mid-week they are extremely affordable. Hot water showers, jacuzzi if you wish. Anything can be delivered by the hotel or Rappi. Years ago I stayed in one in Barranquilla for several nights. Cheap with vital Air Conditioning! Drawbacks: Typically no windows, no WiFi, not a good place if you're going to be in all day. You might even meet some ladies hanging around. Be very discrete and respect the privacy and anonymity of couples.There are some very basic rooms in Mayorista, last time I walked through, 3 hours for 17 k. Some in El Centro are 40 k for 4 hours. There are quite a few throughout the city. Your chicas probably know where to find one.

BTW, Ibiza has excellent WiFi. I've set up a few webcam shows from there with no problems.

Tomcat 88
10-27-20, 05:46
I was in El Centro for first time in months Monday afternoon. Checked out several casas.

New Life presented 10 girls, four I liked. Half-hour costs 55, hour 90. Viewing but not choosing costs 3.

Aiffe presented 6 girls, one I considered. 50/80 viewing free.

Dulce Compania had 8 working, two I liked. 45/80, free.

Amigas Sexy showed 12, two or three for me. 45/80, free.

Chicas Punto Com presented 14, one I chose. 48/68, free I think to view.

Yakusa has been remodeled effectively. Four girls working, Coke 5.50/100.

Botero Plaza and Veracruz had fewer tourists, more vendors, some police, plenty of working girls. I liked looks of quite a few.

Kazeu
10-27-20, 06:10
Any reviews on these girls or just collection of the girls on milerticos?If I've been with a girl, you may see some of my notes in the list. But obviously I can't fuck them all, nor would I want to. The point of the list is that its just easier to wade through. You don't get repeated ads from agencies that post every day. You don't get random dick pics. That's about it. You can find all the the girls in the list by yourself, but it would take you much longer going to mileroticos. Use it, or don't. As they say in the philippines: Up to you.

MedellinLove
10-27-20, 06:42
Landed in Medellin after an 8 month break, stayed close to lleras. Most of the restaurants close to calle 40 survived and are thriving, the once interior specially calle 37 was devastated with lots of closures. It is a mixed bag, Provenza is wide open, so is the front section of lleras. Gustos is open with 50 girls and 50 guys, lots of WG in lleras park walking as usual looking for clients. I would say lleras is at 75 percent of 2019 activity. Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.

I call my regular girls from my Whatsup list and had a blast as usual, I was glad to see them so were they.

Night clubs are still closed, but I have seen a lot of construction activity during day, I guess they are getting ready to open.

Been to Envigado for Lunch and most restaurants are open, they check temp, spray your shoe, give you the gel. Everyone has a mask on, weird but the new normal I guess.

Let us hope Covid is behind us.Are the guys prepagos too? Or are they just customers?

Luminous
10-27-20, 13:54
All the decent ones I spoke to want 200-250 K for each hour, 400 for 2 hours. Maybe your negotiation skills are better than mine.


\Girls are still 150,000 peso I. E 39 USD, very cheap, perfect combination of beauty, sex, service, and ease of finding. Nothing can beat Medellin.

Turgid
10-27-20, 14:48
There's so much here.

If you rent a place that specifically states "no sexual tourism", why would you think it's just a doorman problem when you try to bring in an obvious prostitute? If you went to a vegan restaurant and they don't have steak on the menu would you suspect the waiter of trying to ruin your meal?

There's no asterisk under any of the "no sex tourism" signs or listings (*this applies to everyone but you). If you're bringing in hookers anyway, I expect you will very shortly be looking for another place to stay and you probably won't be getting a refund since you violated the host rules. My suggestion is to start looking for another place immediately, because the portero has probably already informed your host.In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see ¨No sex tourism¨ signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.

Sean EZ
10-27-20, 15:09
It sounds like you are at Factory Lofts.My friend stayed at Factory Lofts (Laureles). He should have never stayed there. They have a nice rooftop bar but you cannot even invite your male friends for beers.

Conick2000
10-27-20, 15:13
In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see No sex tourism signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.I've only seen that in Medellin. Other cities I have not seen those signs.

Conick2000
10-27-20, 15:15
275+ to get a swab shoved up half-way to my brain? I'm having second thoughts.I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.

Knowledge
10-27-20, 15:37
You will see anti sex tourism signs in airports in many of the hotspots. You also see them from time to time in immigration halls in the United States.


In all my travels throughout the world Colombia is the only country in which I see No sex tourism signs in hotel rooms and elsewhere.

Surfer500
10-27-20, 15:56
I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.Unfortunately the labs are taking advantage of the situation where somebody (travelers) need a very quick turnaround time to get a test result. And to further complicate things, a lot of labs don't run tests over the weekends, so as an example if you have flight on a Tuesday you may have a problem getting a test result within the time window required by Countries requiring a PCR test within 72 hours. Hence labs are offering same day test results with the test being taken early in the morning of which they charge a ton of money as you have pointed out.

Turgid
10-27-20, 15:57
I used to fly to Colombia for the weekend. Maybe arrive Thursday evening or Friday morning depending on flights and prices. Fly out Sunday or Monday. Now we have to pay $250 to $400 depending where you go to have the PCR test next day I have to go and stay a while for it to be worth it.I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. If it is indeed successful that would bring an end to the need for tests or vaccine and the good times will be here again.

Blakman
10-27-20, 17:24
Or I just have to get some cream from jjbee and do me LOL. Only if the girl looks worth it will I pay more.

ChuchoLoco
10-27-20, 18:48
I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. If it is indeed successful that would bring an end to the need for tests or vaccine and the good times will be here again.That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube. I've met a few in Medellin and are were very nice and seemed very educated. I'm not talking politics and would want to visit if things settle down which I'm sure they will if this is true.

FlowState985
10-27-20, 18:55
My friend stayed at Factory Lofts (Laureles). He should have never stayed there. They have a nice rooftop bar but you cannot even invite your male friends for beers.I think I dodged a bullet. I almost booked an airbnb for that place since it has nice views of the city from one of the pic with good nice amenities. I read the guest policies and was turned off by it so didn't even bother to contact the host.

Member #4665
10-27-20, 18:56
Or I just have to get some cream from jjbee and do me LOL. Only if the girl looks worth it will I pay more.Hey, I love women, and I respect them, And they love me. But this is great news very close to the 25,000 COP per hour worldwide gold standard. Standard recognized by the bankers And escorts in Switzerland.

I scheduled a seeking date towards the end of the year and the girl got impatient and message me an ultimatum " Like, hey man, let's meet soon, or it's off. " I said, "Beaaaach Pleasssse. "
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I treat a beach like 7-up. I never have. I never will. hahahahahahjajaja :)

Zorro
10-27-20, 19:02
Members beware to check hotel rules and buildings security front desk polity. Ask your AirBnb host about these rules upfront, to avoid any surprises. This new two visitor policy per stay is VERY annoying, it has to do with COVID or not sure what else. Also, AirBnb options are quite limited, for some reason.Any guys down there that is experiencing any problems with the lodging requirements. I looked through others sites and groups haven't heard any news of this. I was suspecting some of the hotels might implement this tactic. Which is why I'm not going to one of my usual stops, Estalar blue, which is cheap when I head down in December.

JjBee62
10-27-20, 19:34
That would be awesome, I hope it's true! They have some beautiful islands as well as women from what I've seen on YouTube. I've met a few in Medellin and are were very nice and seemed very educated. I'm not talking politics and would want to visit if things settle down which I'm sure they will if this is true.I wouldn't put much faith in that "cure."

JjBee62
10-27-20, 19:43
Hey, I love women, and I respect them, And they love me. But this is great news very close to the 25,000 COP per hour worldwide gold standard. Standard recognized by the bankers And escorts in Switzerland.

I scheduled a seeking date towards the end of the year and the girl got impatient and message me an ultimatum " Like, hey man, let's meet soon, or it's off. " I said, "Beaaaach Pleasssse. "
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I treat a beach like 7-up. I never have. I never will. hahahahahahjajaja..You're trying to find dates on seeking, trying to set up dates 2 months in advance and think you're going to get anyone for 25k per hour?

I finally see the humor.

It's not impossible to find someone to agree to 25k for an hour. You might even end up keeping her for several hours without paying more. Depends on how long it takes the coroner to show up after she dies from the overdose of whatever drug she took.

However, instead of Seeking Arrangements, you need to be looking on "Seeking a spot on the sidewalk to curl up and pass out. " You don't even need to pay a subscription fee.

SlapShot10
10-27-20, 19:45
Surprised to not have read it, yet, but there are restrictions in place for this weekend.

Alcohol sales end at 6 pm on Friday, until maybe Monday or Tuesday.

Bars close at 10 pm.

I am not sure how strictly this will be enforced. Example: bars are to close at midnight, recently, and I was in one until 1 a. Bars were not allowed to serve alcohol, going back a month or so. One I was in was putting an empty Aguila Cero bottle in front of every customer that ordered a beer.

So, I don't quite know what to expect, but it certainly won't be some crazy Halloween night club vibe.

I'm considering a finca or other options, but I'm sure many locals are now doing the same, unfortunately. Every finca I have talked to, despite being available on AirBnB, etc. , is already rented.

TBH, I might plan to head back to Motel Ibiza and throw a party. The only downside is 96 k per person after the first 4. Of course, that, the rent, and the alcohol would all likely be paid for by yours truly. So, I'm going to try to keep tabs on this throughout the week. I asked a bar manager two nights ago about a possible ley seca this weekend and he confidently said no. I'm wondering if they have some tricks up their sleeves, or if I should be doing whatever it takes to uncover an option to assure I can spend the evening with a group of friends and not worry about the rules.

Cheers.

Black Page
10-27-20, 20:00
I read that Venezuela has discovered a cure for covid 19 which for me is better than a vaccine. SJobs must be there already. Just the idea that Maduro will save the world and USA is awesome by itself.

So, now we will see people further divided into new religions who will:

A) disregard any prudence and with baseball hat dive into bars because protected by hydroxychloroquine;.

B) open a "Maduro Fan Club" and request a visa for Venezuela to enjoy Venezolanas, instead of risking and hunting them in Medellin;.

C) stay at home and read ISG while waiting for better times.