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Ravi Surya
04-18-22, 06:00
Any recommendation for a modern two bedroom rental in Poblado or Laureles? A small house with two bedrooms will also do if it's in Poblado. Stayed in Europa Suites in past, but don't want to pay $700-800 for 3 night stay. Thank you.
Visiting Medellin May 1-4.
What I really want to know is what are some of the nicer hotels that are girl friendly.Hotel Du Parc. It's on the expensive side, about $100 per night, but just a short walk away from Parque Lleras. Orange Suites, Haven Hotel and Hotel Dorado La 70 are a few more. I'm checking out one in Envigado in 2 weeks. Don't know yet if it's chica friendly.
BlueChange
04-18-22, 10:51
Man, I was missing Kathy for over a year now and luck be it she unretired for an encore.
She is ONLY seeing regulars now and actually won't even post her ad just alerts in her stories.
That said fuck! I been fucking her since 2014 and she is STILL the best lay I have in Medellin.
Even better is she is doing oral naturale all the time which took years for her to get over on.
We kissed up against the wall and she is soo horny and wet. I can't get over how pretty she is still! She must be like 29 by now.
I do recall in 2014 when we first fucked her stomach had baby damage and in 2016 she had surgery to fix it and her stomach has been tight ever since. Damn!
Anyway, if you were a client she is popping up here and there but she isn't posting ads and blocks people who she hasn't already saved in her phone so there ya go.
Kathy, the only other prepago on Medellíand I hear talking about is her, Vanessa and ángel from a few years ago.
Happy hunting everyone!
we first fucked her stomach had baby damage and in 2016 she had surgery to fix it and her stomach has been tight ever since. That's penile-navel, I assume? I would give that a whirl. Thanks for the suggestion.
Jejejeje.
Yesterday three BMs posted their personal perspectives on the "Pay" in P4P: FunLuvr: state your price up-front, take it from there; JjBee62: let the lady go first, but have a reasonable price in mind; and IamLookin: Here's what I pay; take it or leave it.Each approach you discussed by the three posters seems to be for first time "Fayboo"/ Tinder encounters, and done via messaging, versus in person face to face. I can easily see a variation of the three approaches, along with other approaches when dealing face to face in venues such as in Centro, Lleras, and even Gustos.
From a personal perspective, and all due respect to the three posters you mentioned, the whole notion of negotiating a first time encounter with a sex worker via the Internet has never worked well for me.
Yet on the flip side of things, I know there are many posters here who exclusively get all their Chicas via the Internet, with no right way or wrong way.
Elvis 2008
04-18-22, 15:12
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Thank you for the outstanding tips. You are my teacher from miles away. I had an amazing 3 ways last night. I have fucked both girls separately before, and one of the girl happen to know each other and introduced me to the 3rd.
A fellow monger sent me a PM asking my opinion on how to make 3-ways more viable and fun. Maybe a couple more of you guys might find this helpful. I am certain there are gaps in my knowledge, angles I have not considered, or differing opinions on this subject, so any further insights appreciated.
Random three-ways can be one of the most disappointing P4P experiences reported and here's why I believe that is the case. By "random" I mean the way most newbies will set up a 3-way up, with two random, unknown girls who may or may not know each other. Then what transpires is a "tag team" where the girls take turn doing the same 'ol, same 'ol with you while the other chica watches, or even worse, while the other is stealing from you while you are distracted. Tag team thievery is a common mechanism. Always keep a set of eyes on both girls and for Gawd's sake don't get into the shower with one of them while the other is sight unseen in your room.
I don't always use the following rules, but when I do I am usually pleased with the outcome. First, I have fucked both girls separately before we meet for the three-way. Then, the girls either happen to know each other or they get a chance to meet and at least eyeball each other before the actual three-way. The point is a little bit of familiarity among the participants goes a long way for predicting success in a three-way.
With that said, I had one great three-way when two chicas overlapped sessions in my hotel room who had never met before, and the first one ended up staying. I think that is an exception..
participants were asked to compute, within 5 seconds, the product of the numbers one through to eight, either as 1 X 2 X 3 X 4 X 5 X 6 X 7 X 8 or reversed as 8 X 7 X 6 X 5 X 4 X 3 X 2 X 1. " For those presented with the sequence starting with the smaller numbers, the median estimate was 512. For those, who started with the higher numbers, the median estimate was 2,250. (The actual answer in both cases is 40,320).All this proves is most people suck at math. I did that in my head in three seconds. 6, 24, 120, 720, 5040, 40,320. A piece of cake.
First time visiting Medellin with bare bones knowledge of Spanish. I am planning to stay in St Peters apartment in Laureles, will be arriving at airport around 10 AM on a Sunday.
Would you advise me to book a cab with an English speaking driver beforehand or should I take the official taxi? Any idea how much it should cost to go to Laureles from airport?
How about currency exchange. I don't mind exchanging a small amount at airport but wonder if there are any currency exchanges within walking distance of St Peter's apartment suites that would be open on Sunday noon?
Can the experienced ones please advise?
The Charlie Hotel is very nice and very girl friendly.Very very nice, and if you call them charging 150 k per girl, girl friendly kadoos good you!
I contacted Giraldo Sara from Facebook Saturday to see if she was available. Being the day before Easter, I knew the pickings were slim. She agreed to come over Saturday night. She arrived a little late, but kept me informed. She is not attractive at all, but I was hoping her performance would make up for her looks. Big disappointment. A blow-up doll would have been better because it would have had a better attitude. She arrived and went straight to the bedroom and removed all her clothes. I didn't mind that because I was okay with a quickee. No foreplay, kissing with extra money (I refused). Then she wanted a condom for everything. When I tried to reason with her for oral without a condom, her only answer was "condom!". I quickly lost interest and paid her to leave. At least she didn't make a fuss about leaving, nor try to steal anything.
I have been with over 100 FB chicas, and only four have been a total disappointment. All four have been toward the bottom of the appearance scale. I think I have learned my lesson, no more ugly chicas.
In case there are more than one Giraldo Sara in Medellin on FB, she is the one with a lot of tattoos. Someone else's experience may be completely different, but I have a pretty good average of very good performance from Facebook chicas.
This is one time when pre-encounter negotiations would have been helpful, but I'd rather lose a little money than change what has been successful for me.
Thank you for the outstanding tips. You are my teacher from miles away. I had an amazing 3 ways last night. I have fucked both girls separately before, and one of the girl happen to know each other and introduced me to the 3rd.Purrrrrfekt!
Nil Admirari
04-18-22, 17:24
All this proves is most people suck at math. I did that in my head in three seconds. 6, 24, 120, 720, 5040, 40,320. A piece of cake.Don Huacho, If, with a stopwatch on you, you can really complete a sequence of 7 multiplications, in three seconds flat (up to a 5 digit total), you indeed are a certified mental whiz and your self-congratulatory post is warranted. But even if so, you miss the point. It's not that most everyone "sucks at math" (though, sad to say, that may well be true). Pretty much anyone who mastered their multiplication tables in the third grade could calculate the right answer if given enough time—say 30 seconds or a minute. But 99% of the human race (with the exception of yourself, and perhaps a noble physicist or two), if only given 5 seconds (as in the Khaneman / Tversky experiment) would need to make a top-of-the head guesstimate rather than being able to complete the entire sequence of calculations. The research establishes as a fact that most any of us, if subjected to that tough time constraint, and presented with the sequence starting with the low numbers first, will make a lower guesstimate than if presented with the same sequence in the reverse order. Hence the name of Kahneman's book that popularized their research, "Thinking, Fast and Slow".
For the benefit of our brother BMs, apologies for the academic digression—and back to the noble pursuit of Paisa pussy.
Moonlight is a flake. She agreed to meet. When she didn't show, I texted to ask where she was. She claimed that she was in a taxi, but traffic was bad. About an hour later she claimed that traffic was so bad she had to turn back and could not come.How many times did she text you that she was "en caminar" or on the way?
If we assign flakiness a 1-10 scale, I would give her a four with ten being your mom's apple pie crust. Not trying to excuse her behavior, yeah she flaked. And I am not suggesting you should give her another chance. I am usually "one and done" in those situations. But she did give you a final call to tell you she was not coming and that is more than you will usually get.
But don't be too quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I have eventually gotten together with chicas who flaked on me at first who turned out to be worth the flake, I mean worth the wait, jeje. And once they get to know you, if they like you, the flakiness disappears and your problem may transform into getting them to stay away or go home.
Zero tolerance is certainly a viable approach to flakiness, and I need to keep in mind, I am in it for the long game, not a one week visit to Medellin and those guys probably will want tighter time management.
But if your mindset is more tuned in with the culture, you might find yourself rewarded in the long run for eating your pie with a little bit more of a flaky crust. Off the top of my head, one of my perennial Top Ten girls Purrfekt Piel was a total flake in the beginning. But she would call and tell me that she wasn't coming and usually it was because she was working and going to school and just too tired by the time our appointment time came around in the evening.
Now? If you read my Top Ten she is the easiest girl on my List to be around. She is also my most requested chica from other guys here (I don't refer her unless I know you). She is on time, and if my schedule is open she will stay for 4-6 hours or more for her usual 1.5 hour rate. Most of our time is spent in comfortable silence and she will do anything sexually I request, hold any position, for however long I want and never complain, and she will come back for more. She is over 8 months pregnant now and she was obviously very uncomfortable when I was smashing her (I tried not to hit the soft spot in the kid's head with my schwanson) during my recent trip, but she was a real trooper with all hole access.
My Numero Dos chica, she still flakes and always will. She always shows up but usually two or more hours late. I simply plan accordingly and if she happens to arrive and there is another chica there, I introduce them and that becomes a future opportunity for a three-way.
Finally, remember these chicas probably get flaked on by gringos just as much if not more than we do. Most of these girls do not have the taxi fare one-way let alone round trip. If they show up and the gringo is no where to be found, they are not just inconvenienced, they are screwed. They have to either abandon the taxi, and hope the driver never finds them again, offer sex to the driver, or turn a quick trick with someone else to get the cash to pay taxi there and back home. Imagine that stress, if you can.
A common strategy is to tell the girls ahead of time if they are more than XX minutes late, then don't bother to come. That'll work but it creates tension before the session even starts, but I respect guys who need to manage their time like that.
On how you figure out which chicas you give a second chance and which ones you don't? I have no idea other than think what made you want to get with the chica in the first place, and compare that to the potential of other new girls who probably have the same risk of flakiness. You only need one good chica, and then you can start the "friends of friends" ball rolling and even during short visits to Medellin of a week, you should quickly have your hands full with more chicas than you can handle. Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On.
I contacted Giraldo Sara from Facebook Saturday to see if she was available. Being the day before Easter, I knew the pickings were slim. She agreed to come over Saturday night. She arrived a little late, but kept me informed. She is not attractive at all, but I was hoping her performance would make up for her looks. Big disappointment. A blow-up doll would have been better because it would have had a better attitude. She arrived and went straight to the bedroom and removed all her clothes. I didn't mind that because I was okay with a quickee. No foreplay, kissing with extra money (I refused). Then she wanted a condom for everything. When I tried to reason with her for oral without a condom, her only answer was "condom!". I quickly lost interest and paid her to leave. At least she didn't make a fuss about leaving, nor try to steal anything.
I have been with over 100 FB chicas, and only four have been a total disappointment. All four have been toward the bottom of the appearance scale. I think I have learned my lesson, no more ugly chicas.
In case there are more than one Giraldo Sara in Medellin on FB, she is the one with a lot of tattoos. Someone else's experience may be completely different, but I have a pretty good average of very good performance from Facebook chicas.
This is one time when pre-encounter negotiations would have been helpful, but I'd rather lose a little money than change what has been successful for me.I've made the same mistake, with different girls. At this point she has to be attractive enough that I'm okay with mediocre service, or she has to have some other appeal. I'm thinking of one with at best an average face, and an unknown body. It looks good, but she has no revealing photos. Maybe that's the appeal. She's not obviously selling it, although we have talked. We'll see.
5) Once you have a Facebook page and are "friends" with a few Medellin women, Facebook itself will recommend more "friends". Send request to those you find attractive and are in Medellin. If you are FB Friends with another board member, you can peruse their friends list and send out friend requests, knowing that they are likely to better respond. Usually the women who have a picture of money in the the background, or devil horns on their profile pic are good bets for "working girls". Also the ones who have overtly sexual pics. But be careful, some are only selling pics / videos and aren't interested in meeting up. I would avoid the "OnlyFans" girls, as they seem to be only interested in subscribers. Start a conversation with them a few weeks before you are going to be there, and you'll be able to figure out pretty quickly who is interested in meeting up (also see #2 above).
6) After you have done all of the above, if you still have specific questions, politely ask the board. I have found that most board members are helpful (shout out to ASUDevil1 and Sargon76) if you show that you have done your homework and are still genuinely looking for more info.Has anyone successfully scored a girl who sells content?
My experience is that most of them are only interested in selling content other trying to get you to send them money beforehand which is a stupid idea.
I have been with over 100 FB chicas, and only four have been a total disappointment. All four have been toward the bottom of the appearance scale. I think I have learned my lesson, no more ugly chicas.I have no experience with Fayboo chicas, and believe what your reporting.
But one would think that the "uglier" chicas perhaps should be better providers. Maybe it's because of the way Fayboo operates, with all the transactions / negotiations being arranged before meeting in person, hence once the deal is set, and the Chica shows up, it's difficult to abort the session without paying up. And I can see how some of the Fayboo Chicas when going with guys, just view it as a one time transaction, so could care less how it goes.
Again, I have no Fayboo experience, and maybe other board members here have encountered exactly the same thing as you, with the uglier Fayboo girls being the worst providers.
Contrary to this, I believe the opposite is true for the street scene, with the uglier girls being the better providers, and the dynamic as your aware is very different with everything face to face, and the uglier girls having to compete with the prettier ones on the street.
I agree with you about experiences with good looking girls vs not so good looking. I have found that the better looking ones offer better service for the same price or less.
I contacted Giraldo Sara from Facebook Saturday to see if she was available. Being the day before Easter, I knew the pickings were slim. She agreed to come over Saturday night. She arrived a little late, but kept me informed. She is not attractive at all, but I was hoping her performance would make up for her looks. Big disappointment. A blow-up doll would have been better because it would have had a better attitude. She arrived and went straight to the bedroom and removed all her clothes. I didn't mind that because I was okay with a quickee. No foreplay, kissing with extra money (I refused). Then she wanted a condom for everything. When I tried to reason with her for oral without a condom, her only answer was "condom!". I quickly lost interest and paid her to leave. At least she didn't make a fuss about leaving, nor try to steal anything.
I have been with over 100 FB chicas, and only four have been a total disappointment. All four have been toward the bottom of the appearance scale. I think I have learned my lesson, no more ugly chicas.
In case there are more than one Giraldo Sara in Medellin on FB, she is the one with a lot of tattoos. Someone else's experience may be completely different, but I have a pretty good average of very good performance from Facebook chicas.
This is one time when pre-encounter negotiations would have been helpful, but I'd rather lose a little money than change what has been successful for me..
Don Huacho, If, with a stopwatch on you, you can really complete a sequence of 7 multiplications, in three seconds flat (up to a 5 digit total), you indeed are a certified mental whiz and your self-congratulatory post is warranted. But my brain definitely works in a particular direction and if you make me start with 7 instead of one, it will for sure take me longer. Maybe that's more to the point. Maybe somebody else will immediately start with 56 and do it faster that way. A particular monger's approach might be the best for him but not the best for someone else. I think pussy is a pretty unique product and also that mongers are a distinct subset of the population behaviorally. It's a tricky one to apply economic theory to. Years ago we had a long discussion of the 'elasticity of demand' for pussy. It was quite inconclusive. Also one vote for the importance of cultural factors and the latina mindset. What works for me in LatAm is not the best approach for me in SEA or Western Europe. My approach in LatAm is more take it or leave it, to establish dominance and control, which is what latinas mostly want. In Europe I am more pragmatic about negotiating price and services. In SEA I like to make the woman set her price first, to avoid the 'pay whatever you want' bullshit and subsequent potential drama.
BTW I was greatly aided because I know from rote memory that 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 is 24. Multiply anything by 5 is easy. Cut in half and add a zero. Then you're at 120 and 6 x 12 is 72 on the cards we had to memorize back in the day. Add a zero. Then 4900 plus 140 and really 5040 x 8 is simple if you don't fuck the zeros up. 40 then 32 plus a zero. Maybe it took me five seconds and not three. But in general, innumerate people tend to be poor negotiators.
I agree with you about experiences with good looking girls vs not so good looking. I have found that the better looking ones offer better service for the same price or less..I find that with Seeking girls, the cute, but more average looking girls tend to be cheaper, lower mileage, and better performers. The most beautiful Seeking girls tend to ask for silly amounts of money, and too many crazy gringos are overpaying them too often. The performance of the most beautiful girls also tends to drop off the second or third time. Whereas, the performance of more average girls tends to improve the second or third time. There is no point in dating ugly girls.
First time visiting Medellin with bare bones knowledge of Spanish. I am planning to stay in St Peters apartment in Laureles, will be arriving at airport around 10 AM on a Sunday.
Would you advise me to book a cab with an English speaking driver beforehand or should I take the official taxi? Any idea how much it should cost to go to Laureles from airport?
How about currency exchange. I don't mind exchanging a small amount at airport but wonder if there are any currency exchanges within walking distance of St Peter's apartment suites that would be open on Sunday noon?
Can the experienced ones please advise?I would consider booking ahead, one of those guys who holds up the sign with your name on it inside the airport. I think you pay ahead for those, too (I've done it, I just don't remember) and that would be you max convenience and ease, and they will also have your destination address ahead of time. This is also the most expensive option but the value is still worth it.
Or you can print the name and address of your destination address on a 3 x5 card or save it on your phone and show it to a yellow cab driver at the airport and they will put it in their phone GPS and get you there with the same result for around 100 mil COP +/- 20 mil COP ($21-$32 USD total) which is still an incredible value considering you will be taking a scenic taxi ride though the mountains that would cost you $75-$90 USD back here in the states.
If it were me, I would print the name and the address of St. Peters on a 3 x5 card and also write $100.000 COP (yes, with a period) or about $27 USD and you will have guys clamoring for your business at the airport. Actually, that's a lie if it were me I would be taking the bus but not for a first timer who doesn't speak Spanish.
At the airport, the last money exchange closest to the doors you go through after customs and before you get where the public (and taxi drivers) can wait for you inside the airport is a good place to exchange money. The other money exchange inside the airport charges more. Also, there are ATM's at the airport.
If you are asking about money exchange near your apartments then no offense, but you have not been reading this Forum. You will use an ATM and from where you are, walk along the main drag Avenida 70 back toward the metro station (South?) toward San Juan Blvid which is the closest major intersection, cross San Juan then cross Avenida 70, keep heading toward the metro station and after you go through one more stoplight you will see the Davienda ATM on your right.
If you walk past the Dorado 70 you went too far, but there is another ATM on the opposite side of the street further down. By now you are within a 12 minute walk of Jumbo with 4 or 5 different ATM's and a great place to shop but giving you directions to walk there from the Avenida 70 is a little tricky, unless you walk all the way down to the last intersection before the metro which is busy with a stoplight, turn right and head down that curved road for about 1/3 of a mile and Jumbo is on your right you can't miss it. During this walk from San Peter you will have walked past or near an Exito (grocery store) a D1 (a discount grocery store that sells more bulk) and a ton of little restaurants, bars, etc, drug stores. Good luck.
P.S. From the San Peter if you head the opposite direction down Avenida70 away from the metro there are even closer ATMs on the other side of the Avenue but I think they are BanColombia but whatever they were I remember avoiding them because of the lousy rates. But hey, when you need cash you need cash. Ostee Out and I hope this helps.
First time visiting Medellin with bare bones knowledge of Spanish. I am planning to stay in St Peters apartment in Laureles, will be arriving at airport around 10 AM on a Sunday.
Would you advise me to book a cab with an English speaking driver beforehand or should I take the official taxi? Any idea how much it should cost to go to Laureles from airport?
How about currency exchange. I don't mind exchanging a small amount at airport but wonder if there are any currency exchanges within walking distance of St Peter's apartment suites that would be open on Sunday noon?
Can the experienced ones please advise?You can just take a regular taxi at the airport. 90-100 k to St Peters. Show him the address and it won't be an issue. If you're more comfortable with someone that speaks a bit of English, I've got a good guy if you want to DM me.
Also, there's a davienda bank / ATM about 4 blocks from St Peters on 70th that charges no fees. Just a $5 fee from your home branch or none depending on your bank. I've had taxis stop at specific ATMs on the way from the airport to avoid exchanging money at the airport.
Can't help with money exchange places cause I never used any. Always used Davienda or Scotiabank Colpatria ATM's.
Very very nice, and if you call them charging 150 k per girl, girl friendly kadoos good you!If you are happy to spend over $200 a night to be in the very nice Charlie (and probably way overpaying for chias too), why would you care about the $37 chica fee?
Personally, I am happy with much cheaper, but nice enough hotels, girls, and chica fees, if any.
Very very nice, and if you call them charging 150 k per girl, girl friendly kadoos good you!If you are happy to spend over $200 a night to be in the very nice Charlie (and probably way overpaying for chias too), why would you care about the $37 chica fee?
Personally, I am happy with much cheaper, but nice enough hotels, girls, and chica fees, if any.
But in general, innumerate people tend to be poor negotiators.Good point and part of the reason is that they are thinking in US dollars and converting it to pesos (to offer) and then taking the peso counter-offer and trying to take it back into Dollars.
Right about the time they have it figured out and what they want to do. The girl has disappeared from their WhatsApp (or FB messenger). Why? Between the 'translator' and the higher mathematics the girl lost interest or received an offer from someone a little quicker and "poof" she was gone.
The parables here are:
1. Learn a little Spanish.
2. Learn the basic arithmetic of the country's currency.
Moonlight is a flake. She agreed to meet. When she didn't show, I texted to ask where she was. She claimed that she was in a taxi, but traffic was bad. About an hour later she claimed that traffic was so bad she had to turn back and could not come.JjBee62 has recommended telling them 1/2 or 1 hour before you want them to show up. That works for most of them but what about the punctual ones? Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Meaning there are some that are very vigilant and will really show up on time or damn close to it. You may not be through eating or showering and it will be inconvenient if they show up early.
My suggestion. At least I've had some pretty good success with this technique. We agree on 200 + taxis (or whatever), then I tell her that if she arrives within 15 minutes of our appointment time she gets a 20 mil bonus. That is trivial to me (and almost everyone here) but it is a real motivator for many girls.
Sorry Sailor, I know you were talking about a flake situation, but I remembered I wanted to suggest something on improving timeliness and I had to get it written down before it evanesced from my aging brain.
ChuchoLoco
04-19-22, 00:52
You can just take a regular taxi at the airport. 90-100 k to St Peters. Show him the address and it won't be an issue. If you're more comfortable with someone that speaks a bit of English, I've got a good guy if you want to DM me.
Also, there's a davienda bank / ATM about 4 blocks from St Peters on 70th that charges no fees. Just a $5 fee from your home branch or none depending on your bank. I've had taxis stop at specific ATMs on the way from the airport to avoid exchanging money at the airport.
Can't help with money exchange places cause I never used any. Always used Davienda or Scotiabank Colpatria ATM's.Contact José/ Joe or whomever you made your reservations with at San Peter and ask them to arrange a ride. Someone will wait for you with your name on a cardboard and driver will have a very nice and comfortable vehicle for same cost as taxi and knows where to go. The drivers are great guys too. Too easy and convenient especially for 1st timers. I use BBVA, no fees, for ATM and it's close too but only allows 300 mil withdrawal but you can do 2 or 3. Really don't need more unless you are a bigger spender.
You can just take a regular taxi at the airport. 90-100 k to St Peters. Show him the address and it won't be an issue. If you're more comfortable with someone that speaks a bit of English, I've got a good guy if you want to DM me.
Also, there's a davienda bank / ATM about 4 blocks from St Peters on 70th that charges no fees. Just a $5 fee from your home branch or none depending on your bank. I've had taxis stop at specific ATMs on the way from the airport to avoid exchanging money at the airport.
Can't help with money exchange places cause I never used any. Always used Davienda or Scotiabank Colpatria ATM's.There is a Bcnco Colombia one corner away on LA 70.
Also another bank on LA 70 as you walk to LA 70 you will see a pharmacy next to it is another bank.
Hope this helps.
Sureman.
Has anyone successfully scored a girl who sells content?
My experience is that most of them are only interested in selling content other trying to get you to send them money beforehand which is a stupid idea.Several of them. I'll be doing a few more next trip.
Most of the girls now selling content on Facebook were just selling pussy 2 years ago. Then the travel ban hit and there were no customers. So they started selling content or getting on TikTok or Bigo. Very few of them are selling enough to replace the P4 P income. If you let them know you're only interested in meeting and not buying videos, they'll either stop talking, or switch gears.
Many of the ones who only sell content, or require a deposit or purchase of content to set an appointment are guys selling some girls stuff.
I would consider booking ahead, one of those guys who holds up the sign with your name on it inside the airport. I think you pay ahead for those, too (I've done it, I just don't remember) and that would be you max convenience and ease, and they will also have your destination address ahead of time. This is also the most expensive option but the value is still worth it.
Or you can print the name and address of your destination address on a 3 x5 card or save it on your phone and show it to a yellow cab driver at the airport and they will put it in their phone GPS and get you there with the same result for around 100 mil COP +/- 20 mil COP ($21-$32 USD total) which is still an incredible value considering you will be taking a scenic taxi ride though the mountains that would cost you $75-$90 USD back here in the states.
If it were me, I would print the name and the address of St. Peters on a 3 x5 card and also write $100.000 COP (yes, with a period) or about $27 USD and you will have guys clamoring for your business at the airport. Actually, that's a lie if it were me I would be taking the bus but not for a first timer who doesn't speak Spanish.
At the airport, the last money exchange closest to the doors you go through after customs and before you get where the public (and taxi drivers) can wait for you inside the airport is a good place to exchange money. The other money exchange inside the airport charges more. Also, there are ATM's at the airport.
If you are asking about money exchange near your apartments then no offense, but you have not been reading this Forum. You will use an ATM and from where you are, walk along the main drag Avenida 70 back toward the metro station (South?) toward San Juan Blvid which is the closest major intersection, cross San Juan then cross Avenida 70, keep heading toward the metro station and after you go through one more stoplight you will see the Davienda ATM on your right..
You can just take a regular taxi at the airport. 90-100 k to St Peters. Show him the address and it won't be an issue. If you're more comfortable with someone that speaks a bit of English, I've got a good guy if you want to DM me.
Also, there's a davienda bank / ATM about 4 blocks from St Peters on 70th that charges no fees. Just a $5 fee from your home branch or none depending on your bank. I've had taxis stop at specific ATMs on the way from the airport to avoid exchanging money at the airport.
Can't help with money exchange places cause I never used any. Always used Davienda or Scotiabank Colpatria ATM's.
Contact Jos/ Joe or whomever you made your reservations with at San Peter and ask them to arrange a ride. Someone will wait for you with your name on a cardboard and driver will have a very nice and comfortable vehicle for same cost as taxi and knows where to go. The drivers are great guys too. Too easy and convenient especially for 1st timers. I use BBVA, no fees, for ATM and it's close too but only allows 300 mil withdrawal but you can do 2 or 3. Really don't need more unless you are a bigger spender.You guys are awesome, Thanks for the excellent replies. Now I know what to do and don't feel intimidated.
I have no experience with Fayboo chicas, and believe what your reporting.
But one would think that the "uglier" chicas perhaps should be better providers. Maybe it's because of the way Fayboo operates, with all the transactions / negotiations being arranged before meeting in person, hence once the deal is set, and the Chica shows up, it's difficult to abort the session without paying up. And I can see how some of the Fayboo Chicas when going with guys, just view it as a one time transaction, so could care less how it goes.
Again, I have no Fayboo experience, and maybe other board members here have encountered exactly the same thing as you, with the uglier Fayboo girls being the worst providers.
Contrary to this, I believe the opposite is true for the street scene, with the uglier girls being the better providers, and the dynamic as your aware is very different with everything face to face, and the uglier girls having to compete with the prettier ones on the street.Why on earth would anyone go through all the hassles, airports, masks, shoes off, immigration lines etc. To go overseas to fuck ugly women? And not only does he invite over a woman he considers ugly but he doesn't vette her in the least, and thus is stuck with all condom and an upcharge for kissing. Well he (FunLuvr) warned us about her, so all you guys into ugly women, take heed! I hope he didn't have to pay her too much to leave, but probably did as he didn't disclose the amount.
JjBee62 has recommended telling them 1/2 or 1 hour before you want them to show up. That works for most of them but what about the punctual ones? Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus. Meaning there are some that are very vigilant and will really show up on time or damn close to it. You may not be through eating or showering and it will be inconvenient if they show up early.
My suggestion. At least I've had some pretty good success with this technique. We agree on 200 + taxis (or whatever), then I tell her that if she arrives within 15 minutes of our appointment time she gets a 20 mil bonus. That is trivial to me (and almost everyone here) but it is a real motivator for many girls.
Sorry Sailor, I know you were talking about a flake situation, but I remembered I wanted to suggest something on improving timeliness and I had to get it written down before it evanesced from my aging brain.100% success method for me is this: Tell them that you have plans at X time and if they don't arrive by Y time, you won't be able to see them. I do this whenever I need them to be on time and it has always worked.
OTOH if I'm not real-conscious, I just assume they'll be 30-60 minutes late.
I contacted Giraldo Sara from Facebook Saturday to see if she was available. Being the day before Easter, I knew the pickings were slim. She agreed to come over Saturday night. She arrived a little late, but kept me informed. She is not attractive at all, but I was hoping her performance would make up for her looks. Big disappointment. A blow-up doll would have been better because it would have had a better attitude. She arrived and went straight to the bedroom and removed all her clothes. I didn't mind that because I was okay with a quickee. No foreplay, kissing with extra money (I refused). Then she wanted a condom for everything. When I tried to reason with her for oral without a condom, her only answer was "condom!". I quickly lost interest and paid her to leave. At least she didn't make a fuss about leaving, nor try to steal anything.
I have been with over 100 FB chicas, and only four have been a total disappointment. All four have been toward the bottom of the appearance scale. I think I have learned my lesson, no more ugly chicas.
In case there are more than one Giraldo Sara in Medellin on FB, she is the one with a lot of tattoos. Someone else's experience may be completely different, but I have a pretty good average of very good performance from Facebook chicas..I was with her about a year ago & had a pretty good time. I set the parameters of 200 k total with BBBJ & she agreed. She was a bit messed up on beer, rum & tussi but was a lot of fun. At times she tried to rush things but I laid down the law that I didn't care if someone was waiting for her, this was our date, it was my vacation, & we would take our time. I would not repeat with her but made the best of a tricky encounter.
OTOH if I'm not real-consciousBut is it really just as fun for you being semi-conscious? If it is, I'm impressed and I want some of what you're taking. Jeje.
My suggestion. At least I've had some pretty good success with this technique. We agree on 200 + taxis (or whatever), then I tell her that if she arrives within 15 minutes of our appointment time she gets a 20 mil bonus. That is trivial to me (and almost everyone here) but it is a real motivator for many girls.
100% success method for me is this: Tell them that you have plans at X time and if they don't arrive by Y time, you won't be able to see them. I do this whenever I need them to be on time and it has always worked.Carrot or the Stick my friend, Carrot or the Stick.
100% success method for me is this: Tell them that you have plans at X time and if they don't arrive by Y time, you won't be able to see them. I do this whenever I need them to be on time and it has always worked.
OTOH if I'm not real-conscious, I just assume they'll be 30-60 minutes late.I like both of these ideas and I will use them.
Why on earth would anyone go through all the hassles, airports, masks, shoes off, immigration lines etc. To go overseas to fuck ugly women? And not only does he invite over a woman he considers ugly but he doesn't vette her in the least, and thus is stuck with all condom and an upcharge for kissing. Well he (FunLuvr) warned us about her, so all you guys into ugly women, take heed! I hope he didn't have to pay her too much to leave, but probably did as he didn't disclose the amount.I think perhaps your taking the term "ugly" to literally. I think what the poster was trying to convey was that the girl wasn't as pretty as the others which doesn't mean that she was ugly, just not as pretty.
So on the infamous scale of 1-10, perhaps she was a 5 or 6, versus a 2 or 3 if that makes any sense at all, as like you say," who would travel overseas to fuck ugly women."
You guys are awesome, Thanks for the excellent replies. Now I know what to do and don't feel intimidated.Some of the information provided by the first guy is a little misleading. Yellow cabs are not authorized to make pickups at the airport unless it is a pre-arranged pickup. Only the white cabs are authorized for random pickups. The rate is set by the government. Currently, I think it is 90,000 COP to anywhere in Medellin. That includes Poblado and Laureles. Cities outside Medellin, such as Envigado and Sabaneta, are a little more. There should be a sticker inside the windshield with the rates. The price includes the tolls. I have heard some drivers try to charge extra for the tolls. Confirm with the driver the price before you leave the airport.
When you exit the baggage claim area, there will be a group of guys asking if you want a taxi. Those are renegade drivers. Just shake your head no, or say "No, gracias", and keep walking. Just a few steps outside the baggage claim area, to the right is a doorway to the sidewalk. Walk out and there should be white taxis waiting. If not, look for someone walking around who looks like they could be a dispatcher and ask for a taxi. That person may be standing against the wall to the left after you exit through the doorway.
As for money exchanges, there are many are the Unicentro mall. It's within walking distance of San Peter; but having never been there, you should take a taxi. I don't know if any are open on Sunday.
Some of the information provided by the first guy is a little misleading. Yellow cabs are not authorized to make pickups at the airport unless it is a pre-arranged pickup. Only the white cabs are authorized for random pickups. The rate is set by the government. Currently, I think it is 90,000 COP to anywhere in Medellin. That includes Poblado and Laureles. Cities outside Medellin, such as Envigado and Sabaneta, are a little more. There should be a sticker inside the windshield with the rates. The price includes the tolls. I have heard some drivers try to charge extra for the tolls. Confirm with the driver the price before you leave the airport.
When you exit the baggage claim area, there will be a group of guys asking if you want a taxi. Those are renegade drivers. Just shake your head no, or say "No, gracias", and keep walking. Just a few steps outside the baggage claim area, to the right is a doorway to the sidewalk. Walk out and there should be white taxis waiting. If not, look for someone walking around who looks like they could be a dispatcher and ask for a taxi. That person may be standing against the wall to the left after you exit through the doorway.Thank you so much for the detailed and very helpful information. Much obliged.
Some of the information provided by the first guy is a little misleading. Yellow cabs are not authorized to make pickups at the airport unless it is a pre-arranged pickup. Only the white cabs are authorized for random pickups. The rate is set by the government. Currently, I think it is 90,000 COP to anywhere in Medellin. That includes Poblado and Laureles. Cities outside Medellin, such as Envigado and Sabaneta, are a little more. There should be a sticker inside the windshield with the rates. The price includes the tolls. I have heard some drivers try to charge extra for the tolls. Confirm with the driver the price before you leave the airport.
When you exit the baggage claim area, there will be a group of guys asking if you want a taxi. Those are renegade drivers. Just shake your head no, or say "No, gracias", and keep walking. Just a few steps outside the baggage claim area, to the right is a doorway to the sidewalk. Walk out and there should be white taxis waiting. If not, look for someone walking around who looks like they could be a dispatcher and ask for a taxi. That person may be standing against the wall to the left after you exit through the doorway.
As for money exchanges, there are many are the Unicentro mall. It's within walking distance of San Peter; but having never been there, you should take a taxi. I don't know if any are open on Sunday.Good advice, I always stick with the white taxis.
Invariably, the other drivers you mentioned will try to pull the tunnel toll extra stunt meaning it's extra, which I think is around 18,600 Pesos.
I told a friend of mine to take a white taxi once, and he didn't listen as an Uber driver intercepted him prior to getting to the white taxis, and he spent 100 K versus 80 K which was the fare at the time.
I berated him for doing this, telling him that for the 20 K additional he paid, that he could have gone with a street skank in Centro for that amount, which made sense to him. LOL.
100% success method for me is this: Tell them that you have plans at X time and if they don't arrive by Y time, you won't be able to see them. I do this whenever I need them to be on time and it has always worked.
OTOH if I'm not real-conscious, I just assume they'll be 30-60 minutes late.Same here, I meet only Facebook, seeking and sweety that work in the mall (semi pro) they show up at the apt always 30-60 minutes late, so it's easy to plan, Only 1 girls that I repeat all the time, she is almost never late, but not common in Colombia.
Thank you so much for the detailed and very helpful information. Much obliged.I think you have information overoad at this point jeje and can make an informed choice on your own.
My answers are based on actual experience. Anyone who has spent anytime in Colombia knows there is the official version which usually doesn't amount to a hill of frijoles and then there is the "real world" way of getting things done.
I have taken white, yellow, red, blue, green, black, and more "taxis" from the airport without a problem. The white ones get preferred access and for the others I walked over to the parking lot with these "renegade" drivers, LOL. Trust your instincts. One time I signed a waiver that said I was on a sightseeing tour for my ride to the airport, jajaj. There is more than one way to peel an onion.
Sounds like your best advice came from someone who also stayed at the Peter Principle who said they would send a vehicle out for you. Good luck and it is a good sign that so many people here are willing to help first-timers.
You can strike the deal ahead of time in detail down to the peso, or wait until the dirty deed is done and "give from your heart" as a lot these girls will put it. You can itemize and break it down into separate services, or lump it all into one end-of-the-session price.
If you want her back, and she is willing to return, then whatever you did, worked.
I am definitely into it for the long game, too. I am always one for "whatever works best" for each monger, but for the life of me, I cannot relate to doing a series of "one-and-done" with these chicas.
The sex, the relationship, the emotions, and the trust, almost always get better the more times I see a girl. And some of my best girls who are with me now, I got off to a very rocky start with in the beginning. I have no idea how I knew which ones to stick with and which ones to pass over. I also like bringing in a certain number of new girls to keep it fresh.
ROFL, Ramble On For Length, I've been there and been on a roll lately here. For the past six months it feels like I am compensating by substitution. When I am not in Medellin, I am substituting for a state of bliss I achieve almost exclusively there. And when I am in Medellin, I am substituting my regular girls for the recently elusive Catgirl, my Numero Uno Novia. As long as I am in Medellin, I am happy.I visit MED only for 1 week every time, but almost every 2 month, I have same 4 girls that repeat every time, they are my top, 1 is seeking, 2 are facebook, and 1 is law student that I met random, basic Spanish but learning fast since French is my primary language. Why the repeat? I treat them with respect, pay good money, keep contact when I'm home, and you know what? I get everything I want with these girls. I love it!
Balimassage
04-20-22, 07:13
How many chicas are here today? 8 to 10. Sounds good. But Catch 22: all are reserved.
The maitre'd of sorts told me that the best time (on a typical day) to find chicas available for a first-time audition, would be around 1:30 to 2:00 PM. .I love this place and yes, every time I do, it seems like all the girls are reserved. Once I tried to make a reservation and he told me to contact him 30 minutes before, and then the girl was already done for the day.
Whats so amazing to me, is that the service there in my opinion, is better than all the other places around. Why he doesn't raise his prices, I don't know. Also, why other places don't get a wiff how how successful he is, and copy what he does, also I don't know.
Can't wait to get back!
Would love to learn more about the ropes, perhaps next time I can hang out with the maitre'd, which was a total spot-on name for the Papa-san. Cheers for the laugh!
Some of the information provided by the first guy is a little misleading. Yellow cabs are not authorized to make pickups at the airport unless it is a pre-arranged pickup. Only the white cabs are authorized for random pickups. The rate is set by the government. Currently, I think it is 90,000 COP to anywhere in Medellin. That includes Poblado and Laureles. Cities outside Medellin, such as Envigado and Sabaneta, are a little more. There should be a sticker inside the windshield with the rates. The price includes the tolls. I have heard some drivers try to charge extra for the tolls. Confirm with the driver the price before you leave the airport.
To add what has been said about the Airport Taxi, here is the official web site of the Airport White Taxis.
https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/
You can reserve a taxi to and from the Airport using their web site or contact them thru Whatsapp. You will receive a confirmation with the Name and plate number of the driver and the total cost. Using the reservation ahead of time will significantly reduce any security issues or overcharging.
So how are you spending your time here in between? I mean I'll do a lap and not see anyone that piques my interest. Maybe I'll even head over to Radual and see what's there. But on the earlier side, when chicas are still arriving, how do you kill time in-between?
Please save me from getting too much sun again. I guess the altitude and latitude makes the sun a bit stronger than I expected.
So how are you spending your time here in between? I work, sometimes meet friends, sometimes I go shopping. There are lots of bargain shops around Centro.
But otherwise, MDE is really boring so my work saves my sanity.
Nil Admirari
04-20-22, 18:56
Question for Centro Regulars So how are you spending your time here in between? I mean I'll do a lap and not see anyone that piques my interest. Maybe I'll even head over to Radual and see what's there. But on the earlier side, when chicas are still arriving, how do you kill time in-between? Although I don't qualify as a Centro Regular (aka: rat], I do have a few suggestions.
1. There is an OK restaurant on the second floor of the commercial buildings at the SE corner of the plaza fronting the museum, as one enters the pedestrian street (in effect a continuation of Avenida Carabodo) from Calle 52 to Calle 51 and the Veracruz church. From the restaurant's windows one has a good view of the portion of the Plaza where most of the working girls hangout, and can keep tabs on when new arrivals appear that might merit checking out. I've only had a coffee there, but a friend who was with me had a quite good soup and OK Plata Fuerte.
2. Duck into the Canejitos club for a brew or a gatorade. To my surprise, I've found two of my regulars there in the late afternoon (around 4 PM); like you I've struck out spying any of those oft-claimed, reputed "Hidden Gems" when making the walking (stalking?) tour from Radual to Ground Zero to the church, and back via Carrera 53.
3. Have a coffee in the Centro Commercial Palacio Nacional--a handsome historic building, now a shopping mall including a large atrium.
Also, if you have a touristic bent, you can of course check out the museum itself (Museo de Anitioquia) in the main plaza (pre-pandemic it had a cafe; I'm not sure if it has reopened) or the Palacio de la Cultura Rafael Uribe. The modernistic EPM Library might also provide a waiting place. Or (last resort) go to confession in the main cathedral or La Iglesia de la Veracruz to atone for your sinful mongering ways.
So how are you spending your time here in between? I mean I'll do a lap and not see anyone that piques my interest. Maybe I'll even head over to Radual and see what's there. But on the earlier side, when chicas are still arriving, how do you kill time in-between?
Please save me from getting too much sun again. I guess the altitude and latitude makes the sun a bit stronger than I expected.There's lots of guys that like to hang out in bars, or hang out and talk with other mongers. I personally don't do any of that, but the question you should be asking is "when is the best time to be in Centro" so that the odds of encountering something you like will be out.
Generally speaking, Sundays and into the middle of the week are slow, with the best times to be in Centro from around 4 PM until 6 PM Monday thru Saturday. I've posted about this before, there basically is a kind of shift change with the girls that arrive early getting out of dodge after it gets dark, and then you have other girls that show up late in the early afternoon and work until early in the evening say around 8-9 PM.
And there are some girls, primarily Venezuelans that work like from 9 AM until the early evening.
Prime time in Centro, the very best times to be there is on Fridays and Saturdays. There are girls that will show up only the weekends to make some money that aren't there during the week.
If your into just banging one girl while in Centro, and don't have morning wood, then the times I gave you should have the most girls out.
If you want to spend the day in Centro with the intent of doing at least two girls, maybe try a casa mid day, have some lunch, and then bang a Centro Chica.
Regardless of my advice, you need to have a lot of patience in Centro. The landscape relative to prettier girls can change momentarily of which you have no control over, so you need to be patient. There may be times when there's nothing to your liking, and times when there is more than enough. Patience required and good luck, hopefully this helps.
I visit MED only for 1 week every time, but almost every 2 month, I have same 4 girls that repeat every time, they are my top, 1 is seeking, 2 are facebook, and 1 is law student that I met random, basic Spanish but learning fast since French is my primary language. Why the repeat? I treat them with respect, pay good money, keep contact when I'm home, and you know what? I get everything I want with these girls. I love it!I try (and often fail) to not tell others how to monger, because it is is soooo personal and IMO most of the stuff we do behind closed doors does not readily transfer over to other mongerers.
But when you can build trust with a girl, when she walks in the room and you don't have to discuss any sexual gymnastics because you know each other's body's so well, when you can leave your cash, credit cards, and passport lying around because you know it is safe, when she brings you other hawt girls that are may be new to P4 P because she genuinely likes you and trusts you and knows these girls will be safe, when she makes sure you have her most current phone number even though it changes every other week, when you can sit around and joke and watch TV and eat and have almost (almost) as much fun as exploring her wet holes, when you don't have to discuss terms or price, when she never watches the clock, when she invites you to stay over at her place, and possibly meet her family, when she brings you little gifts and home cooked food that are clearly from the heart, when she lets you do things to her body that no one else will, well some guys call that unnecessary emotional entanglement but for me that is Heaven-On-Earth.
So how are you spending your time here in between? I mean I'll do a lap and not see anyone that piques my interest. Maybe I'll even head over to Radual and see what's there. But on the earlier side, when chicas are still arriving, how do you kill time in-between?
Please save me from getting too much sun again. I guess the altitude and latitude makes the sun a bit stronger than I expected.Me I go do breakfast 1st at Versalles Restaurante & Pasteleria, Cra. 49 #53-39, (Junin Walking St), starts across from the S end of Parque Bolivar, if you see no tables they have a upstairs too. Right across the walking street is Centro artesanal mi Viejo Pueblo, Cra. 49 #53-20, a good place to browse for souvenirs, and I will walk down the walking street for a bit sight seeing. Late afternoon I start peeking in Conejitas strip club and Barra Ejectiva strip club also and also Yakusa, Carrera 50 a # 53-38 , those 3 I check thru out the night, Yakusa will let you take the girl to your place if it is super close which I advise as their rooms suck big time. I was across the street at the now closed Hotel Botero but I bet the Nutibara would work too. Yakusa is open crazy late too.
Two fun filled days for me so far and many lessons learned.
Day one was a lot of getting my bearings and loops. Way too much sun and sunscreen became a priority. I ended up with a Vennie that hangs out at the NW corner of Calle 51 and Carrea.
53.50 k for her and 17 k for the room. Gringo prices, I know. Got her Whatsapp. Might repeat. She has the one of the most amazing rears I've seen.
Day two was an adventure. Too much thinking with the little head. Saw an amazing rack on a woman near the church. She looked up just right with those eyes. That and she has a great set of tits just made the little head take over. I saw and ignored the dilated pupils, her cleavage just sucked me in. I noticed the track marks, damn her tits were top notch. We agreed to 50 k and off we went. Around the corner and to a hotel that was 10 k. Inside she wanted payment first. I tried to resist and should have walked but damn those tits. She sat on the bed and took off her panties. I took off my shirt and caught a glimpse of her tits as she started to raise her dress. Top notch. She then adjusted her dress to cover he midriff and and my big head finally took over. She refused to take to dress off and things went south. She tried to get me to take my pants off but I knew that would have just put me in an even worse position. A bit of back and forth and she headed out. Lesson learned. But those were absolutely the best tits I've ever seen and felt. If you're looking to avoid her, she's got a "Virginia" tattoo on her shoulder and an amazing rack.
I stopped into Conejitas to nurse a 10 k Gatorade. I missed out on my first choice and ended up with my second for the 80 k.
Many more days to come. Oh, and it rained a bunch both afternoons. Still fantastic weather.
BootyBandit84
04-21-22, 05:53
I try (and often fail) to not tell others how to monger, because it is is soooo personal and IMO most of the stuff we do behind closed doors does not readily transfer over to other mongerers.
But when you can build trust with a girl, when she walks in the room and you don't have to discuss any sexual gymnastics because you know each other's body's so well, when you can leave your cash, credit cards, and passport lying around because you know it is safe, when she brings you other hawt girls that are may be new to P4 P because she genuinely likes you and trusts you and knows these girls will be safe, when she makes sure you have her most current phone number even though it changes every other week, when you can sit around and joke and watch TV and eat and have almost (almost) as much fun as exploring her wet holes, when you don't have to discuss terms or price, when she never watches the clock, when she invites you to stay over at her place, and possibly meet her family, when she brings you little gifts and home cooked food that are clearly from the heart, when she lets you do things to her body that no one else will, well some guys call that unnecessary emotional entanglement but for me that is Heaven-On-Earth.
I visit MED only for 1 week every time, but almost every 2 month, I have same 4 girls that repeat every time, they are my top, 1 is seeking, 2 are facebook, and 1 is law student that I met random, basic Spanish but learning fast since French is my primary language. Why the repeat? I treat them with respect, pay good money, keep contact when I'm home, and you know what? I get everything I want with these girls. I love it!I agree with both of you 100% I also visit for a week to 10 days at a time. I have 8 girls that I see almost exclusively now. I only see new girls if they have friends that are hot and they want me to meet. I see all girls multiple times per visit and I get priority when I arrive to Medellin. I keep in touch with all of them between visits and they always clear their schedule when I'm in town. We no longer discus money at all and they never bring it up. Not even when they are bringing friends over for the first time. I give them what I want and I think is fair and all are happy to take it. I know others like to taste other flavors and that's fine, if I feel like trying something new they always have friends for me to meet. But I rarely do now because like Osteonot said, I get whatever I want with my girls. Want an overnight? You got it! I want pictures or videos? You got it! Want a threesome or larger group of girls to pay me a visit? You got it! It really is a whole new ballgame when you don't have to worry about the quality of women you are going to see in a trip. Its why I have stopped going to Mexico and Asia. Its way harder to keep this quality of service in other places, at least IMO. Not impossible, but way more work and money than its worth.
It really is a whole new ballgame when you don't have to worry about the quality of women you are going to see in a trip. Its why I have stopped going to Mexico and Asia. Its way harder to keep this quality of service in other places, at least IMO. Not impossible, but way more work and money than its worth.I can't put my finger exactly on what it is, but there is something about the Pay for Play culture in Medellin (possibly all of Colombia but 95% of my time has been in Medellin) that I have not experienced anywhere else in the world and I have been to more than a few places.
The culture of open sexuality without guilt is deeply ingrained and pervasive in Medellin. I have said many times, these chicas are on a continuum when it comes to Pay for Play. I honestly don't see them as putas and non-putas, sex workers and non-sex workers. Yes, of course there are hard-core full-time street-walking putas, but they are on one end of a Pay for Play continuum.
For example, on the other end of this continuum is a chica who I am getting ready to tag during my upcoming trip to Medellin. I have been fooling around with her for a year. Guys who follow me know who I am talking about. I call her Managerette. I am the second guy she's ever had sex with and she's not that young, I think mid-upper 20's. She was thinking about becoming a nun at one stage, she wears a crucifix and "prays" to solve her problems. She's only had sex in missionary position and she's never given a blowjob.
I used oral to give her the first orgasm of her life during my last week in Medellin when I was making the rounds and saying my goodbyes.
Villainy and my wingman are losing patience with me and keep telling me to seal the deal and fuck her in at least two holes, but I am in no rush. You can't go backwards in these situations, once it's done, it's done. And the friendship we have formed along the way is real. This is the ultimate in foreplay for me and a refreshing change of pace compared to all the slam-dunk sex I have in Medellin.
We first met when she was the manager at a hotel where I was staying. She saw a steady procession of girls coming and going from my room at all hours. She was polite but I could tell she thought I was bad news, a gringo monger who took advantage of the local girls.
I kept chatting her up and she started to show an interest in me the way someone would an exhibit at a science museum. I was an odd curiosity to her at first. I asked her out, several times.
At first it was a strong "No" which turned into an "as friends only", which morphed into a visit at her apartment where she and her mother dyed my hair and made dinner for me. She transported me on the back of her moto. I love being the passenger on a moto with a chica driver. I will mash their ass like it's a dying man's wish, jajaja.
After that, she came to see me three separate times at two different hotels to have sex. I offered her triple what I would normally pay, 600 mil COP, but she got cold feet and backed out each time. We continued to see each other.
I felt like I was back in high school, but in a fun way. I started by giving her a massage with her clothes on. Then for the encore I told her to be sure to wear clothes that were easy to remove and the next session I gave her a naked massage. That quickly progressed to both of us naked while I massaged her and mashed her with my dick without penetration and got foot jobs from her. Finally I added pussy licking.
I was having a blast. Then the very last time I saw her was her first orgasm and one of the wildest oral sessions I ever put on a girl. I wrote about her here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2683383&viewfull=1#post2683383.
When I return she has already told me she wants to fuck. I told her she will get 200 mil COP out the door because she blew her chance at the big payoff. She laughed and agreed with me.
If she were the only chica or one of few I was seeing regularly here then I could see how taking all this time might seem nuts to some of you guys, probably it still does. But at the same time I am seeing every kind of chica there is under the rainbow, from hardcore puta to girl next door, to girl with steady job, to student, and more. Not to mention the love of my life Catgirl, and we are both very comfortable with the openness in our relationship.
A continuum.
Like you said, it may be possible to recreate this kind of experience in other parts of the world, but not with this natural relaxed feeling, ease of access, and not at this great price.
Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On.
Two fun filled days for me so far and many lessons learned.
Day one was a lot of getting my bearings and loops. Way too much sun and sunscreen became a priority. I ended up with a Vennie that hangs out at the NW corner of Calle 51 and Carrea.
53.50 k for her and 17 k for the room. Gringo prices, I know. Got her Whatsapp. Might repeat. She has the one of the most amazing rears I've seen.
Day two was an adventure. Too much thinking with the little head. Saw an amazing rack on a woman near the church. She looked up just right with those eyes. That and she has a great set of tits just made the little head take over. I saw and ignored the dilated pupils, her cleavage just sucked me in. I noticed the track marks, damn her tits were top notch. We agreed to 50 k and off we went. Around the corner and to a hotel that was 10 k. Inside she wanted payment first. I tried to resist and should have walked but damn those tits. She sat on the bed and took off her panties. I took off my shirt and caught a glimpse of her tits as she started to raise her dress. Top notch. She then adjusted her dress to cover he midriff and and my big head finally took over. She refused to take to dress off and things went south. She tried to get me to take my pants off but I knew that would have just put me in an even worse position. A bit of back and forth and she headed out. Lesson learned. But those were absolutely the best tits I've ever seen and felt. If you're looking to avoid her, she's got a "Virginia" tattoo on her shoulder and an amazing rack..Even your last story with "lesson learned" sounded like there was a fun-factor to me, but I am strange like that, jjaja. Yeah, it rains, but that sun can be brutal at altitude. I know the locals don't wear sunglasses but you need them in Medellin for those harsh days so you don't do damage to your eyes. Nothing wrong with paying 50 thousand pesos, keeps it simple. Sometimes when I go out mongering I do everything in increments of fifty, jajajaja and I know other guys who do the same. 50 mil COP = $13.39 USD at the moment.
Just Incognito
04-21-22, 12:39
To add what has been said about the Airport Taxi, here is the official web site of the Airport White Taxis.
https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/
You can reserve a taxi to and from the Airport using their web site or contact them thru Whatsapp. You will receive a confirmation with the Name and plate number of the driver and the total cost. Using the reservation ahead of time will significantly reduce any security issues or overcharging.16 trips to Medellin and I never knew this before. Thanks!
Day two was an adventure. Curious, what lesson did you learn?
Curious, what lesson did you learn?Listen to my gut (except when it's telling me to get more street food).
Avoid the hardcore drug users, especially when they're high.
Pay after (aside for the bars and casas?
Pretty much all the shit I read already, but ignored.
I also should mention that you shouldn't try winning once you put yourself in that bad situation. She was loud and verbally threatened me but didn't get to the point where she pulled her knife. I saw the folding knife in her bag, but don't think she knew that I saw it.
Versailles was nice. Decent cup of coffee. I also liked the mall and Junín passage Maracaibo. Funny story, I went into the mall next door thinking it was the one someone recommended. It was all sex shops and food stalls.
I also should mention that you shouldn't try winning once you put yourself in that bad situation.Don't try to right the wrong in the middle of the wrong. Do whatever it takes to get out of the bad situation without escalating the situation. Pay more, make false promises, apologize when you're not wrong, whatever it takes to stay safe. Take lessons learned and apply it to future state, not while you're in the middle of the cluster fuck. Any extra amount of money you have to pay to get out of a situation will be much less, usually by a factor of ten or more, than what it will cost you later in money, energy, time, blood, etc. Don't argue on principle or what you believe is right or wrong. Put out the fire and move on. You are not in the United States. The US Constitution's Bill of Rights do not apply.
InsolentSpike
04-22-22, 02:05
Thanks to Gabacho I had a blast in Medellin when I went during thanksgiving week 2021.
Had so much fun with botero girls that I just booked 12 days for this upcoming summer in late June.
Can't wait!
...Its why I have stopped going to Mexico and Asia. Its way harder to keep this quality of service in other places, at least IMO. Not impossible, but way more work and money than its worth.First, nice report. I do the same thing. I tend to repeat a lot with my core girls, and sample a few new ones in each trip.
However, to compare this favorably to Asia is pushing it. First, you can do the same thing in Asia, and second I think Asia is on a whole different level than Colombia when it comes to mongering. Heck, even Brazil would give Colombia a run for its money.
Instead, I would recommend that each monger visit, if possible, every mongering destination worth visiting. Then the monger should decide on their own which place has the best quality of service. I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.
I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.But you also posted you cannot come from a blow job. I see a relationship here.
Instead, I would recommend that each monger visit, if possible, every mongering destination worth visiting. Then the monger should decide on their own which place has the best quality of service. I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.What percentage of mongers do you think have the resources or option or time to "visit every mongering destination worth visiting?" Yes, you wrote "if possible" but that doesn't let you off the hook.
Hmmm, for starters, SE Asia round trip ticket thousands of dollars and two days travel time with jet lag guaranteed. Chances of learning Thai or Japanese or Vietnamese or any other Asian language compared to Spanish?
Anywho, obviously to each his own but for those of you out there wondering, I've mongered on six continents, been laid on seven, and Colombia wins hands down, for me, jajajaja, maybe for you, too.
I've told more than one young monger starting out, "Sure, travel the world, find out for yourself, you'll end up back here."
On second thought, Colombia sucks. Everyone should go the SE Asia or the Philippines.
BootyBandit84
04-22-22, 04:08
First, nice report. I do the same thing. I tend to repeat a lot with my core girls, and sample a few new ones in each trip.
However, to compare this favorably to Asia is pushing it. First, you can do the same thing in Asia, and second I think Asia is on a whole different level than Colombia when it comes to mongering. Heck, even Brazil would give Colombia a run for its money.
Instead, I would recommend that each monger visit, if possible, every mongering destination worth visiting. Then the monger should decide on their own which place has the best quality of service. I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.That's fair. I said not impossible but harder and not worth the effort in my opinion. It has nothing to do with the people as I have enjoyed my time in Asia, Europe and Mexico. In fact some of my best experiences have been in Ukraine, Germany and Vietnam. Its just that with the distance, time and money that needs to be spent to have the same close relationship that I have with my Colombian girls in other parts of the world would not be worth it to me as I can't visit as often as I do with Medellin.
Also Spanish is my first language and I'm Hispanic so I don't have the language issues I have in parts of the world where they speak little to no English. Also in Colombia like with Mexico I fit in better. When I take the girls out on the town we look like any other couple and not like a Gringo and a local girl. It may not seem like it matters but, to me it really doses. In Asian and Europe I'm clearly a foreigner and you get a looked at and treated like it, at least in my experience. I also feel the girls are way more comfortable going out in public, again that's just my experience.
I agree that everyone that has the time and money should visit other places to see what its like there. You never know what a place is really like until you go there yourself. For example, in my head Thailand was a dreamland and Vietnam and China were an afterthought. As it turned out, I had a much better time and had better sex in the latter two places. But that was my experience, someone else can have a completely different situation. So yes, believe everyone should visit other places to make up their own opinion on what works for them.
Versailles was nice. Decent cup of coffee. I also liked the mall and Junn passage Maracaibo. Funny story, I went into the mall next door thinking it was the one someone recommended. It was all sex shops and food stalls.Versailles also has menus in English if they didn't bring you one.
But you also posted you cannot come from a blow job. I see a relationship here.You are right, but I fail to see the relationship.
That's fair. I said not impossible but harder and not worth the effort in my opinion...With the additional info, I can see your point. I wish you presented some of your arguments in your earlier post.
BTW, Vietnam and Viet girls have been a pleasant surprise to me, much better than Chinese girls.
But don't get me wrong, I love traveling and mongering in Colombia. I speak decent Spanish and I like the fact that the trip does not take that long. Hence I end up visiting the far away places about once a year each, and I visit Colombia more often.
Instead, I would recommend that each monger visit, if possible, every mongering destination worth visiting. Then the monger should decide on their own whice has the best quality of service. I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.So if Colombia is not a premier mongering destination for you, which ones are?
Before the Pandemic I considered SE Asia as a premier mongering destination as well, and every year would spend a few months there, but since the Pandemic I think hands down Colombia has been the best.
Hopefully when the Pandemic is really in the rear view mirror and places in Thailand and the Philippines are back up to speed I will be returning.
Hey fellas,
I'm arriving next week on Wednesday and I'm going to stay for about 3 weeks.
If anyone is interested in meeting up, maybe drink a few beers, smoke some Ls, hitting up some casas. Just write me a message.
I'm relative new to mongering, but travelled a lot. Nevertheless my Spanish still sucks.
Benzeru.
I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.You will soon come to realise that you are not allowed to criticise Colombia here. You are not allowed to give your opinion unless it is a glowing one. And please don't mention the rain!
MarquisdeSade1
04-22-22, 18:13
So if Colombia is not a premier mongering destination for you, which ones are?
Before the Pandemic I considered SE Asia as a premier mongering destination as well, and every year would spend a few months there, but since the Pandemic I think hands down Colombia has been the best.
Hopefully when the Pandemic is really in the rear view mirror and places in Thailand and the Philippines are back up to speed I will be returning.Deutschland SEA are top shelf premium.
The rest are just cheap (Well) knockoffs LOL at least IMO.
Egy Monger New
04-22-22, 19:13
The fact BBFS + CIP is standard by default or at the very least easily attainable in SE Asia should settle this discussion.
, I've mongered on six continents, been laid on seven, and Colombia wins hands down, for me, jajajaja, maybe for you, too.
I've told more than one young monger starting out, "Sure, travel the world, find out for yourself, you'll end up back here."
On second thought, Colombia sucks. Everyone should go the SE Asia or the Philippines.So this isn't a geography test, yet you mentioned seven continents.
So with Antarctica being one of them, was this continent that you got laid on, as it is not a mongering destination.
And if you did get laid there, where was the deed done.
To add what has been said about the Airport Taxi, here is the official web site of the Airport White Taxis.
https://acoataxiaeropuerto.com.co/
You can reserve a taxi to and from the Airport using their web site or contact them thru Whatsapp. You will receive a confirmation with the Name and plate number of the driver and the total cost. Using the reservation ahead of time will significantly reduce any security issues or overcharging.Incredible, didn't knew it existed. Thank you.
The fact BBFS + CIP is standard by default or at the very least easily attainable in SE Asia should settle this discussion.How does wearing regular Clothing In Pool (CIP) settle this argument? Wearing CIP is no fun. All that material sticks to your skin when you get out of the pool.
This argument is never settled. Personal preference rules the day.
So this isn't a geography test, yet you mentioned seven continents.
So with Antarctica being one of them, was this continent that you got laid on, as it is not a mongering destination.
And if you did get laid there, where was the deed done."Extreme Weather and Cold Blooded" http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2687123&viewfull=1#post2687123.
Post #54003, last two paragraphs.
You will soon come to realise that you are not allowed to criticise Colombia here. You are not allowed to give your opinion unless it is a glowing one. And please don't mention the rain!Yes, I realized my mistake, but I can't help it. When folks post about a can't miss place, I get annoyed. The perfect place is personal and is more likely different for different people.
So if Colombia is not a premier mongering destination for you, which ones are?...For me it is SEA, and Thailand in particular, despite the fact that I have had more mongering trips to Colombia than Thailand. That is mostly because Thailand is far away, and one has to cross several time zones. I also speak decent Spanish, and that makes a difference. My ability to speak Thai is nothing to speak off, despite several attempts at learning that language.
I started visiting SEA back in 2003, and Colombia in 2013. For many years now, I have been doing 3 trips per year to Colombia, vs 1, and sometimes 2 trips per year to SEA. I also enjoy visiting Brazil and German FKKs. I speak some Brazilian Portuguese, and English is widely spoken in Germany.
You are right, but I fail to see the relationship.Because in my opinion, Colombianas are above average at oral but below average at fucking.
Because in my opinion, Colombianas are above average at oral but below average at fucking.Thanks for the clarification, but I may dispute that. Possibly, the Colombian chicks I met were not interested in pleasing me that much. I can assure you that my Korean ATF gave me a superior BBBJ, and FS was even better. That is why she is an ATF (all time favorite).
You can check her pics here: https://asianeyecandy.ch/jazmin.
Yes, I realized my mistake, but I can't help it. When folks post about a can't miss place, I get annoyed. The perfect place is personal and is more likely different for different people.Personal preference almost always rules the day when it comes to mongering.
But the difference is the local geography. Newsflash: You are on a Medellin board. There is and should be a pro-Medellin bias here. Doesn't mean it has to be everyone's first choice.
I always welcome counterpoints, but ask yourself, why does it annoy you if someone feels like a place shouldn't be missed? There are only two possible answers. Their choice does not agree with yours, or you don't believe people should have personal favorites. Both positions are obviously ridiculous and untenable.
I post almost exclusively on the Medellin section here and I don't think it's too far of a stretch for me to occasionally expect to find some like-minded mongers. I can't explain bashers or haters (not saying that's you) who state their viewpoint, but then continue to hang around and post negatively over and over about a place. Why don't they just go to the board for the place they say they like? Of course if a monger is in town visiting Medellin that is a logical reason to be here, regardless of their first choice. Some folks would have the common sense not to go overboard with the bashing in that scenario but they can and they do.
I have been very upfront that Medellin is my Heaven-On-Earth, Shangri-La, Shambala, Utopia, Nirvana, and Garden of Eden. Perhaps that rises to the level of an obsession for me from which I will never back down. I have enough insight to realize that probably does not hold true for even the people who choose Columbia as their favorite place.
For me, the planets all aligned, all the holes in the Swiss cheese lined up, and Medellin has definitely been a intensely positive, unique and personal experience that keeps getting better and better. I have met people who have mongered in more places that me but this is not my first rodeo. I've been in the game long enough to know that I don't have to keep looking any further to try and find a happier place.
Thanks for the clarification, but I may dispute that. Possibly, the Colombian chicks I met were not interested in pleasing me that much. I can assure you that my Korean ATF gave me a superior BBBJ, and FS was even better. That is why she is an ATF (all time favorite).
You can check her pics here: https://asianeyecandy.ch/jazmin.Cute woman. Probably a white GI father. I like Asians but I like Latinas more, possibly because I speak the language, but I don't really think that's why. Latinas are more hot blooded and emotional, which is both good and bad, but sexually is good. How much for that in CA? I'm guessing you could get fucked 20 times for that amount in MDE, and value equals quality divided by price per the great Michael Porter.
As in, I've only fucked maybe ten women as good looking as she is in her photos, but I've fucked hundreds of less good looking women. Ugly women need love too.
Incredible, didn't knew it existed. Thank you.How come I have never heard of one person using it? Sounds too good to be some sort of "best kept secret". Maybe this comment will bring a few testimonials. Would like to hear some.
Maybe I used the service and didn't know it. Twice I pre-booked the taxi on line at the same time as my hotel reservation for the guy with the little sign and my name on it. One was a white taxi but the other was not. One went smooth, the other did not, took us over thirty minutes to find each other but ended up fine. I can't remember which was which. If some guys try this service and it goes smoothly, let us know.
You will soon come to realise that you are not allowed to criticise Colombia here. You are not allowed to give your opinion unless it is a glowing one. And please don't mention the rain!Criticism is normal, expected and generally accepted by everyone. Unfortunately, many people don't understand the difference between criticism and complaining needlessly about things which can't be changed, like the weather.
Climate and weather data for almost any place on the planet is readily available and easily accessible. If you're going to be spending a lot of time in one place, you should first figure out if you're compatible with the climate. Why spend your time in a place where you're miserable. Even if you're visiting for a few days, you should find out so you can bring the appropriate clothes.
The other type of complaining which won't be accepted is blame shifting. For example, whining about staying in a cheap place that didn't have air conditioning. If you wanted something but didn't choose a place which met your requirements, complain to the person who booked the room. Likewise, if you couldn't figure out how to find girls, it's not Medellin's fault.
Here are some examples of reasonable criticism:
1. The food is bland. Depending on where you're from this is true.
2. The service in restaurants is terrible. This isn't true, but most North Americans are expecting a different type of service. In most restaurants a waiter will only approach your table to bring a menu or to bring your food. If you want to order, if you want another beer, if you want some salt, or you want your check, you need to flag down your waiter.
3. The girls showed up late Yep. That's part of the culture. Read the forum for ways to overcome this issue.
Here are examples of complaints which won't be accepted:
1. The days are too short. The days are practically the same length year round. Making them longer isn't an option.
2. All the women are fat, and ugly. Finding beautiful women in Medellin is about as easy as finding water in the ocean. Either you have unreasonable expectations, or you're blind.
3. It's too expensive. I can't think of a response to that one.
How does wearing regular Clothing In Pool (CIP) settle this argument? Wearing CIP is no fun. All that material sticks to your skin when you get out of the pool.
This argument is never settled. Personal preference rules the day.Although CIP is not listed in the abbreviations guide of the forum, you and other should know that it stands for Cum in Pussy.
For bareback fuckers, SEA and East Africa is a much better destination for that. Many women do not even ask for a condom and enjoy natural sex like we do.
In Latin America, the condom is mostly standard and a huge turnoff when ladies use it even for a blowjob. Sometimes the condom doesn't fit or feels cheap like plastic.
........Instead, I would recommend that each monger visit, if possible, every mongering destination worth visiting. Then the monger should decide on their own which place has the best quality of service. I can tell you that for me, the premier mongering destination is not Colombia.I think it depends on individual taste. I have been to every major mongering destination on the planet and the best country for mongering IMHO is Germany. Nothing beats being in a club and being surrounded by over a hundred hot naked girls.
I think it depends on individual taste. I have been to every major mongering destination on the planet and the best country for mongering IMHO is Germany. Nothing beats being in a club and being surrounded by over a hundred hot naked girls.Have you been to Indonesia and Malaysia? These are major mongering destinations I have not been to and ultimately will never visit. It's because I'm just not into Asian women so much. But no way could I pass up on Thailand and the Philippines! Been there, done that. I also have not been to the Dominican Republic, but there's still a chance for that happening down the road.
Although CIP is not listed in the abbreviations guide of the forum, you and other should know that it stands for Cum in Pussy.
For bareback fuckers, SEA and East Africa is a much better destination for that. Many women do not even ask for a condom and enjoy natural sex like we do.
In Latin America, the condom is mostly standard and a huge turnoff when ladies use it even for a blowjob. Sometimes the condom doesn't fit or feels cheap like plastic.Thank you for pointing out that the acronym that was used that was not listed on the abbreviation page here. Also, in general it is considered poor writing to use any acronym without listing the meaning the first time it is used. But I accept guys here like using them for the sense of camaraderie and the "boys club" feeling it implies, so I have never mentioned it until now.
There is a huge assumption built into the standard that all mongers prefer bareback sex. Believe it or not, some guys would not dream of having unprotected sex (there is a reason for that term) with a sex worker, which is an obvious risk factor for all kinds of little transmittable critters, not to mention pregnancy.
I have not had a problem getting Colombian girls to give bareback blowjobs, often without an upcharge. They are very sensitive about not wanting other chicas to know that they will do it. I usually just act like it is an automatic assumption that they will give the bareback blowjob and at least 50% of the new girls go with the flow. Add an upcharge of 50 mil COP (13 bucks) and now you are up to 90% bareback BJ. Finally, just like any sexual expertise, I've had girls who could give blowjobs with a condom that felt better than the bareback BJ from other chicas. So there are a lot of moving parts, pun intended.
I do both, with and without a rubber, depending on the chica and how long I have known her, and my real-time exam, visual and sniff. Probably 75+% of the time I am bareback because I am with top chicas from my List.
I am a huge proponent of bringing quality condoms with me from the USA and there is a huge difference between the best condoms and the worst condoms. I have had someone call bullshit on me before for saying this but with Trojans best ultra-sensitive condom with KY jelly on the inside as well as the outside, once thing get heated up with a little friction, sometimes I cannot tell that I am wearing a condom.
Seem like no matter how many condoms I bring with me, I always run out. I end up giving too many away, jaja. What can you do except Keep On Keepin' On? Thanks for the feedback.
Day 3 I spent much of the day in El Centro. I saw my "friend" hanging out but didn't engage. Many loops and a fair amount of shopping and I didn't find anything that appealed to me. I had a nice Empanada Argentinian from Versailles. Eventually at around 4:30 I headed into Grill Nueva Avenida. Maybe 25 chicas there, a wide body range but mostly petite natural types. Nothing outstanding so after finishing my drink I did another few laps of El Centro with no luck.
I popped into Conejitas next. Many fewer chicas there, around 10, mostly interested in their phones. Not one dance in a Colombian sidles into the seat next to mine and starts talking. My Spidey-senses go off of course. But the guy just talks on and on in Spanish. Over the course of three beers, I get his life story of how he's working in town and flies out in the morning. He's really into music and shows me some of the gear he carries around with me. He has one daughter but isn't married. He doesn't ask for anything and even offers me a "regalo amiga", a small silver chain. I try to decline it as politely as I can and then he heads out.
I hadn't seen anything to great before then but right after he goes a voluptuous MILF type walks by. I'm a bit too eager as I approach and we go to head up. I'm a bit surprised at the cost of 120 k. I'm guessing 20 or 30 for the room and the rest to her. She asks to buy wipes too and that's another 6 k. It was still a fantastic session and to my surprise she was lactating, a first for me.
Heading out in the dark after 7 PM and people are really clearing out. I make a quick half pass by the church but not much is out. The walk to San Antonio station is also interesting. A tenth the people that were there 22 hours earlier. I do get aggressively approached by a trannie by Berro Station which was a shame because her friend was cute. The trains are less jam packed which is nice. I wish I could say it didn't rain, but started pouring after dinner.
Day 4 was another day in El Centro. Nothing notable early but I enjoyed a Empanada Chilean in the park, Versailles was too crowded both downstairs and up. It's interesting seeing the regulars, including the buskers. As a first, I actually saw a tourist win that Guinea pig hole game. I've started a game of my own, figuring out how which of the crowd in the shell game are actually in on it (I counted six at one point). I finally visited the Museum and enjoyed it.
I found a Vennie that interested me right by the church. 30 k +10 k for the room right there. I suppose that's another red flag from my disasterous encounter from before, going to a short time place a long ways away. In any case, the session was okay. No BJ skills but a nice body. Her "familia" tattoo on her back was quite apt as she got a call from her sister while I was in her. I popped into Conejitas and again 15 or so women with plenty of silicone to go around. I'm a little disappointed I didn't see my "first" choice from my first visit, a taller blonde with a natural body that spoke a bit of English. It felt dead in there so after my drink I did another lap and then went into Grille Nueva Avenida. 25 plus women and livelier. One sat next to me and we talked. She insisted on using a translator app which was a first for me. Not really my type but I found the slow conversation interesting. I bought her a couple of drinks and she laughed at my jokes. I noticed the acrylic square the server passed her and apparently for each 7 k beer you buy them, they get a 2 k kickback. I was having fun so we went in back. 100 k (80 k goes to her and 20 k to the bar). A meh session because while I enjoyed her company, the space back there is horrendous. That was actually her first comment back there, how ugly it was. I'm sure there are jail cells nicer. Funny enough, she's also a Vennie with a tattoo on her back that says "familia".
The walk out at 8:30 pm was interesting. I did another half lap and saw the remnants out there. Fewer people and gates all pulled down It's kinda pretty then and I actually took a quick photo of the church and some local teens hang out in front of it. The walk to San Antonio station was even more desolate. Never felt in danger but it was odd seeing so few out there. Annoyingly the train was still packed that Friday a bit before 9 PM.
On an up note, yesterday was the first day it didn't rain until after I was already in bed. As a random side note, Empanadas Argentinian are the superior type with its flakey crust.
MarquisdeSade1
04-23-22, 20:49
Have you been to Indonesia and Malaysia? These are major mongering destinations I have not been to and ultimately will never visit. It's because I'm just not into Asian women so much. But no way could I pass up on Thailand and the Philippines! Been there, done that. I also have not been to the Dominican Republic, but there's still a chance for that happening down the road.They would be 2nd tier at best, and I wouldn't call either a "major" destination for this hobby.
According to my research in no particular order top 3 Globally, Thailand PI Deutschland.
Maybe 2 runner ups? I haven't seen either but hear many great things.
Brasil and Espana.
I think it depends on individual taste. I have been to every major mongering destination on the planet and the best country for mongering IMHO is Germany. Nothing beats being in a club and being surrounded by over a hundred hot naked girls.But I would love to see a list of "every major mongering destination". I guess one could just look at the Front Page here, but I would say that is too many places. Maybe a "Top Ten"? Listed by country? Or city? I don't know how.
I will start the ball rolling with a place we have all heard of, Colombia. You would be the most logical person to respond since you said you have been to them all. Please list all the major mongering destinations. I am genuinely curious. Then guys can fill in any perceived gaps. You know not everyone will agree, no one does here about anything.
Colombia, and you said Germany (Heeey, I've been to both, what do you know? Jeje).
Thanking you in advance.
Asti.
...Latinas are more hot blooded and emotional, which is both good and bad, but sexually is good...Yes, I bet, but Asian chicks can surprise you on that side, as it is not expected and they can blow up quickly. Then the relationship is over after that. Time to start looking for a replacement.
I pissed off one of my favs when I was last in Medellin. Curious to see whether she is still holding a grudge against me.
... How much for that in CA? I'm guessing you could get fucked 20 times for that amount in MDE...Haha, You are right, but probably not 20 times but much less than that.
Haha, You are right, but probably not 20 times but much less than that.Really? I double checked off current exchange rates. El Centro rates of 30 k +10 k room is the equivalent of $10.60 according to XE right now. Under $200 would be a bargain in San Jose, no?
The first time I had sex for money in Colombia it worked out to about four dollars. That was in MCMLXXVII. The woman took me out of the back door of the bar and grabbed a blanket on the way out. I figured we were going to a room. No. We walked ten feet out the door, she threw the blanket on the ground and we fucked. That was in Leticia. I had just come from a stint working in Reno NV and fucking women from Thailand and elsewhere at the famed Mustang Ranch for ten dollars, and you could come twice. Plus we had a bus that took us to Mustang and we could drink on the bus, dollar beers if you were a casino employee. That was actually some good cheap pussy in the Yew Ess, at the Mustang back in those years. Isn't Conejitas the place where you have to duck down under some obstacle to get to the rooms? I'm not that limber any more.
So how much was the hooker in SJC Lefeu? I can still get good quality hookers for $60-$70 US in SJO but have not been near SJC in many years.
Sammytheman
04-24-22, 06:20
I think it depends on individual taste. I have been to every major mongering destination on the planet and the best country for mongering IMHO is Germany. Nothing beats being in a club and being surrounded by over a hundred hot naked girls.Really? Germany? Can ypu please tell us where exactly in Germany? How much were the proces? How were the girl's attitude / performance? Much appreciated 🙏.
Really? Germany? Can ypu please tell us where exactly in Germany? How much were the proces? How were the girl's attitude / performance? Much appreciated 🙏.Look in the Germany section. Don't expect a repeat of all of that in the Medellin forum.
Have you been to Indonesia and Malaysia? These are major mongering destinations I have not been to and ultimately will never visit. It's because I'm just not into Asian women so much. But no way could I pass up on Thailand and the Philippines! Been there, done that. I also have not been to the Dominican Republic, but there's still a chance for that happening down the road.I have been to all the countries you mentioned. I really liked Malioboro club in Indonesia, they have a greater variety than FKKs but I know you like the blue eyed blondes so I'm guessing you'd prefer FKKs. Also most of the girls are not naked. I did not enjoy Malaysia all that much. Thailand and the Philippines are serious mongering destinations and I do like Asian girls but they do not offer the level of heavenliness to be found in FKKs. I have made many visits to the DR because I do like the brown Latinas as well but I don't know whether that would interest you.
But I would love to see a list of "every major mongering destination". I guess one could just look at the Front Page here, but I would say that is too many places. Maybe a "Top Ten"? Listed by country? Or city? I don't know how.
I will start the ball rolling with a place we have all heard of, Colombia. You would be the most logical person to respond since you said you have been to them all. Please list all the major mongering destinations. I am genuinely curious. Then guys can fill in any perceived gaps. You know not everyone will agree, no one does here about anything.
Colombia, and you said Germany (Heeey, I've been to both, what do you know? Jeje).
Thanking you in advance.
Asti.The following are my top ten:
1. Germany.
2. Thailand.
3. Brazil.
4. Colombia.
5. The Philippines.
6. Mexico.
7. Indonesia.
8. The Dominican Republic.
9. Costa Rica.
10. Panama.
Ten years ago I would have knocked off the DR, CR and Panama and put Argentina, China and Singapore where I have had very good experiences but unfortunately those 3 countries have successfully cracked down on our favorite hobby.
The following are my top ten:
1. Germany, 2. Thailand, 3. Brazil, 4. Colombia, 5. The Philippines, 6. Mexico, 7. Indonesia, 8. The Dominican Republic, 9. Costa Rica, 10. PanamaVery interesting and cool stuff.
If price is not a factor:
1) Spain.
2) Costa Rica.
3) Slovak Republic.
4) Paraguay.
5) Thailand.
If price is a factor:
1) Paraguay.
2) Colombia.
3) Thailand.
4) Spain.
5) Costa Rica.
Paraguay, of course, is in the middle of nowhere and has little to recommend it other than a saturation of very good looking hookers. The Guaraní are quite tall for an indigenous people, and the Germans and Irish have mixed in so you have tall (ish) green eyed beauties there. BTW I can't speak to the prostitution in the area but in Argentina you have three cities, Rawson, Trelew and Puerto Madryn, that have similar mixtures, albeit with Welsh and Irish more so than German. Really, really beautiful women in those cities.
Paraguay has some clubs but the scene is primarily apartments aka 'privados. ' Prices are clearly posted, typically in ten minute increments with a 20 minute minimum and significant economies of scale. And there will be a large, old fashioned round elementary school type clock on the wall right by the price list. Slovak Republic, meaning Bratislava in my case, has some really good escorts but also a lot of schemers and scammers.
AmorPorFavor
04-24-22, 16:54
Really? I double checked off current exchange rates. El Centro rates of 30 k +10 k room is the equivalent of $10.60 according to XE right now. Under $200 would be a bargain in San Jose, no?I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?
I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?You would be surprised what you can get for 30 K in Centro. The locals pay 30 K, and if you speak some Spanish, you can do better than the "dogs" meaning the fat and ugly ones in Centro as they typically will go for less than 30 K, which may sound hard to believe but is true. As far as shitholes to fuck in, yes most places are shitholes, but if you pay between 15 K and 18 K for a room, you will have hot water, clean sheets, and two towels.
I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?Plenty of dogs in El Centro but plenty of good looking women too, for those with the time and energy for the sifting process. Especially the sacaleras ja ja. There isn't any kind of linear relationship between price and quality in LatAm. It's true the 10 k accommodations can be marginal. But don't knock it if you (obviously) haven't tried it.
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I'm arriving next week on Wednesday and I'm going to stay for about 3 weeks.
If anyone is interested in meeting up, maybe drink a few beers, smoke some Ls, hitting up some casas. Just write me a message.
I'm relative new to mongering, but travelled a lot. Nevertheless my Spanish still sucks.
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They would be 2nd tier at best, and I wouldn't call either a "major" destination for this hobby.
According to my research in no particular order top 3 Globally, Thailand PI Deutschland.
Maybe 2 runner ups? I haven't seen either but hear many great things.
Brasil and Espana.I went in partly by activity and interest you see on this site. For example, have you seen the massive amount of posting that goes on in the Indonesia section? That would seem to make it a top tier Asian mongering destination if you ask me. And check out the destination hotlinks on the front page of the site. Of all of the countries in the world, just 16 are listed there, to include Indonesia and Malaysia. Tells me Jackson must have been onto something. By the way, out of that 16 I have been to 12: Argentina; Brazil; Czech Republic; China; Colombia; Costa Rica; Germany; Philippines; Thailand; Tijuana; Russia; Dubai. Not bad! I have been to Spain and Switzerland too. Both deserve a spot on the short list of Permanent Monger Member Nations too IMHO.
I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?It's a numbers game. I've spent last night in the Lleras Park area (and I say area because it's entirely tore up, barricaded, and under construction). I'd put the top 2% of El Centro as more attractive than the bottom 60% of those outside in Lleras Park. Clearly they're better dressed in LP but I'm more interested it them when the clothes are off. Of course the top 10% of LP is leagues above anything you'll find in El Centro.
So with time and luck, not a dog at all. Even more true if you can pay 80% more without hesitation (and still be under $20 USD at today's rates.
ColombiaLover
04-24-22, 20:10
Costa Rica? Seriously. Maybe years ago. But I do not find most ticas to be naturally attractive, unlike Colombianas. The best ones you find in CR seems to be imports from Colombia, Venezuela, and Nicarauga. But to each his own. I quit going to CR for mongering long ago.
If price is not a factor:
1) Spain.
2) Costa Rica.
3) Slovak Republic.
4) Paraguay.
5) Thailand.
If price is a factor:
1) Paraguay.
2) Colombia.
3) Thailand.
4) Spain.
5) Costa Rica.
Paraguay, of course, is in the middle of nowhere and has little to recommend it other than a saturation of very good looking hookers. The Guaran are quite tall for an indigenous people, and the Germans and Irish have mixed in so you have tall (ish) green eyed beauties there. BTW I can't speak to the prostitution in the area but in Argentina you have three cities, Rawson, Trelew and Puerto Madryn, that have similar mixtures, albeit with Welsh and Irish more so than German. Really, really beautiful women in those cities.
Paraguay has some clubs but the scene is primarily apartments aka 'privados. ' Prices are clearly posted, typically in ten minute increments with a 20 minute minimum and significant economies of scale. And there will be a large, old fashioned round elementary school type clock on the wall right by the price list. Slovak Republic, meaning Bratislava in my case, has some really good escorts but also a lot of schemers and scammers.
SonicBoom1
04-24-22, 20:25
But I would love to see a list of "every major mongering destination". I guess one could just look at the Front Page here, but I would say that is too many places. Maybe a "Top Ten"? Listed by country? Or city? I don't know how..1. Argentina.
2. Mexico. CDMX.
3. Austria / Germany.
Of the 6 odd countries I have been, these clearly stood out.
Costa Rica? Seriously. Maybe years ago. But I do not find most ticas to be naturally attractive, unlike Colombianas. The best ones you find in CR seems to be imports from Colombia, Venezuela, and Nicarauga. But to each his own. I quit going to CR for mongering long ago.I can remember about 15 years ago going to San Jose and would stay at the Hotel Presidente and pull Chicas from the Hotel Del Rey.
After the experiences I had with the Colombians over a two year period in Costa Rica, I decided to go to the source, being Colombia, and have never returned since just like you.
Costa Rica had it's heyday many years ago as a premier mongering destination, but no longer in my book.
Plenty of dogs in El Centro but plenty of good looking women too, for those with the time and energy for the sifting process. Especially the sacaleras ja ja. There isn't any kind of linear relationship between price and quality in LatAm. It's true the 10 k accommodations can be marginal. But don't knock it if you (obviously) haven't tried it.I remember about five years ago when all the Sacaleras would be lined up alongside the Museum in the walkway to the back street. This was before there were any Venezuelans working in Centro.
And there were some hot ones, typically very thin, and literally willing to do anything because they were so spaced out like zombies.
Nowadays there's no fixed location where they all congregate like before.
1. Argentina.
2. Mexico. CDMX.
3. Austria / Germany.
Of the 6 odd countries I have been, these clearly stood out.Argentina? I was there just before the Pandemic and found it to be terrible for mongering. Not that there weren't pretty women there, but there had been a lot of crackdowns and closure of venues. Perhaps you were there many years ago before things changed.
I'm wondering what kind of dog you get to fuck in what kind of shithole for $10.60?LOL, They are Only Hot if you Pay $200+.
Costa Rica? Seriously. Maybe years ago. But I do not find most ticas to be naturally attractive, unlike Colombianas. The best ones you find in CR seems to be imports from Colombia, Venezuela, and Nicarauga. But to each his own. I quit going to CR for mongering long ago.Virtually all the women I see in Costa Rica are from Nicaragua. I personally do not run into many Colombians or vennies there.
This kind:I see someone else tried a trans too. Hehe.
MarquisdeSade1
04-24-22, 23:01
The following are my top ten:
1. Germany.
2. Thailand.
3. Brazil.
4. Colombia.
5. The Philippines.
6. Mexico.1 Thailand.
2 PI.
3 Deutschland.
4 USA.
5 Mexico.
6 Colombia.
7 Canada.
8 Russia.
MarquisdeSade1
04-24-22, 23:38
I went in partly by activity and interest you see on this site. For example, have you seen the massive amount of posting that goes on in the Indonesia section? That would seem to make it a top tier Asian mongering destination if you ask me. And check out the destination hotlinks on the front page of the site. Of all of the countries in the world, just 16 are listed there, to include Indonesia and Malaysia. Tells me Jackson must have been onto something. By the way, out of that 16 I have been to 12: Argentina; Brazil; Czech Republic; China; Colombia; Costa Rica; Germany; Philippines; Thailand; Tijuana; Russia; Dubai. Not bad! I have been to Spain and Switzerland too. Both deserve a spot on the short list of Permanent Monger Member Nations too IMHO.IMO just referring to that quick list is just being lazy.
I hear nothing but really bad things about most countries on that list (and ID love to hear how old that list is LMAO).
How many tiers do you think there should be for the list LOL (not even all countries I like are equally good).
Also notice how nobody labeled that list? Its not called the best of.
I just made a list, give us your top 10.
Lastly I'm sure I could get better putas in the USA than in at least 75% of the countries on that list.
I can remember about 15 years ago going to San Jose and would stay at the Hotel Presidente and pull Chicas from the Hotel Del Rey.
After the experiences I had with the Colombians over a two year period in Costa Rica, I decided to go to the source, being Colombia, and have never returned since just like you.
Costa Rica had it's heyday many years ago as a premier mongering destination, but no longer in my book.Hotel Presidente was the shit when was girl friendly, your statements are spot on, exactly what I've done, I see no reason to even go their but continue to have friends still going all the time, I don't get it but to each their own, I've also had some amazing times there 15-20 years ago, Del Ray was like stepping back in time used to call it the wild Wild West!
1. Brasil - #1 and it's not really that close.
After that it's hard to say. Indonesia is awesome, but I have no desire to make that trip again. Ditto Thailand.
The FKKs in Germany are fantastic (even better Globe in Zurich) , but I want to go somewhere warm in the North American Winter.
Colombia is great cause it's such an easy trip (half the distance of going to Brasil) and I speak the Language.
MarquisdeSade1
04-25-22, 01:39
I see someone else tried a trans too. Hehe.I'm guessing there are forums for those that like pene.
Argentina? I was there just before the Pandemic and found it to be terrible for mongering. Not that there weren't pretty women there, but there had been a lot of crackdowns and closure of venues. Perhaps you were there many years ago before things changed.I was there in 2013. Spent a week in Buenos Aires. Loved the city and the atmosphere, but mongering sucked big time. During that week, I had my best sessions with chicks from Paraguay and Colombia. I tried 2 Argentinian chicks in the first couple of days, and that was it.
...I really liked Malioboro club in Indonesia, they have a greater variety than FKKs...Yes, I loved visiting Malioboro! Ton of beautiful women.
How about that club in Jakarta that was closed by the government, and I can't remember its name. It had an indoor pool, and you can spend some time with your lucky girl in the pool. They also did lineup presentation by ethnicity. Unfortunately, it was closed soon after I discovered it.
Talking about great variety of girls, how about the Macau saunas? I had so much fun there over the years.
...So how much was the hooker in SJC Lefeu? I can still get good quality hookers for $60-$70 US in SJO but have not been near SJC in many years.The going rate is anywhere between $260 and $300 per hour. Quite expensive but well worth it when one is stuck in sex prison.
Thanks to Gabacho I had a blast in Medellin when I went during thanksgiving week 2021.
Had so much fun with botero girls that I just booked 12 days for this upcoming summer in late June.
Can't wait!I'm going to be there May thru July bro but not the whole time in Medellin tho (I'm going to take a side trip to Cucuta and maybe to Cali). I had a great time on my last trip Jan to Feb and spent most the time in El centro de Medellin. So many girls in centro I have to keep coming back LOL. I also discovered the metro girls and candy girls on my last trip and I have a bunch of chicks whatsapp numbers and they're passing me to all their friends too (mostly Botero vennies). Can't wait to get back agn.
Also if you like the Botero scene you would like cucuta they have this street 'la septima' very similar to cra 53 in medellin but cheaper. They start out as low as 20 K COP and 5 K COP for the room. And it's more grimey and ghetto in cucuta and feels more rough than medellin, but for me that adds to the adrenaline rush.
-Gabacho.
I also discovered the metro girls and candy girls on my last tripI don't know about them. I really didn't see any attractive candy girls and the coffee girls were about the same as the rest of of the Centro mix. As for the Metro girls, I'd say 90% of the time I've of passed by (to and from the stations), there's been no one or trannies.
As for the Sacaleras Surfer mentioned, I've seen some huffing on the edge of the park by Avenida De Greiff. That whole area gets rougher as you go down Bolivar. I made the mistake of walking down that way before realizing my mistake and nope-ing out of there. A couple of blocks in most directions isn't too bad and even nice, but not that a ways.
Also if you like the Botero scene you would like cucuta they have this street 'la septima' very similar to cra 53 in medellin but cheaper. They start out as low as 20 K COP and 5 K COP for the room. And it's more grimey and ghetto in cucuta and feels more rough than medellin, but for me that adds to the adrenaline rush..I went to Cucuta a few years back and honestly would not recommend it. Besides the area you mentioned, there were girls working in various parks around town, and another spot you could find girls was in and around the bus station.
At the time I went, the selection of pretty girls was not even close compared to Centro, albeit the pricing was lower as you mentioned.
As far as travelling there to save 10-15 K for a rato with a Vennie, well you would have to do dozens and dozens of girls to break even to cover the expenses to get there and back. I went there out of curiosity thinking that there would be all these beautiful Vennies out, but seems most of them after crossing the border immediately head elsewhere within the Country.
I, like you, found it to be interesting, and am glad I went, but won't be going back.
BlueChange
04-25-22, 14:09
I'm going to be there May thru July bro but not the whole time in Medellin tho (I'm going to take a side trip to Cucuta and maybe to Cali). I had a great time on my last trip Jan to Feb and spent most the time in El centro de Medellin. So many girls in centro I have to keep coming back LOL. I also discovered the metro girls and candy girls on my last trip and I have a bunch of chicks whatsapp numbers and they're passing me to all their friends too (mostly Botero vennies). Can't wait to get back agn.
Also if you like the Botero scene you would like cucuta they have this street 'la septima' very similar to cra 53 in medellin but cheaper. They start out as low as 20 K COP and 5 K COP for the room. And it's more grimey and ghetto in cucuta and feels more rough than medellin, but for me that adds to the adrenaline rush.
-Gabacho.Take my advice, Cucuta fucking sucks! Whatever girl you been talking with online that you want to meet, just fly her to medellin or the coast. TRSUT ME! It is the worst city in CO to hang in.
Take my advice, Cucuta fucking sucks! Whatever girl you been talking with online that you want to meet, just fly her to medellin or the coast. TRSUT ME! It is the worst city in CO to hang in.Weather is very hot and unlike in MDE practically every business and residence has air conditioning. You are on the Venezuelan border at the "Bridge of Tears" so there are a lot of Vennies willing to have sex for cheap. I mainly had a crazy time with two sisters I lined up ahead of time so maybe SmallChange is on to something about hanging out there, I dunno, he did not give any specifics. And I did have to jump out of second story balcony onto some nice, soft St. Augustine grass to get away from those sisters' posse who were coming up the stairs on the front side, and they were not from Welcome Wagon. Still, the experience with those two sisters for three days and two nights was worth the trip, because I survived unharmed. Barely, jajaja.
I'd go back to Cucuta before Cali. Shows to go you as I often say, Mongering is an intensely personal experience that sometimes (often?) does not transfer over to your fellow monger. I am thinking about going back for a third time but again, I have at least a couple of chicas in mind and lined up ahead of time.
As a general rule, I rarely travel for the sole purpose of meeting a chica unless they seem exceptional for some reason. And when I do, I have at least 3 chicas lined up, never one, to compensate for any flaking. I've been very lucky so far.
You invented a great T-shirt "TRSUT ME!" jajajaja.
For those of you who follow me, I have posted about this Cucuta adventure several times, and it was memorable to say the least.
The first two fotos are the main chica Web camming the same day at the studio where I picked her and her sister up, you can see sis in the background of the first foto. I was waiting on the street in a taxi. The studio Mama-San gave me a good going-over before she released the girls and let them come outside to me, jaja.
One sister had the great body, the other the great face. My go to position during sex was to put the body in doggy at the edge of the bed, and sis with the face right next to her face up then go back and forth and finger the one I wasn't fucking. That way I always go to look at pretty face and fuck better body in doggy.
I also took good body and kept her in doggy, and had sister with beautiful face rest her head on her sister's ass, and go back and forth from face's mouth to body's pussy. I could write a short story about that weekend, from the moment we met to the very end was unique.
The rest of the fotos were back at the Airbnb where we stayed. Never saw them again after I made a rapid exit to the airport. The body was supposed to fly to MDE a couple of weeks later and she flaked on me for the price of a one-way CUC-MDE air ticket, super-cheap I want to say $69 USD, but we lost contact after that. Don't go chasing waterfalls, is what I always say. There's always fresh poontang waiting around the corner that will surpass expectations.
I hit the upload button too soon, jeje.
JamesPearle
04-25-22, 17:33
OK. I registered for Tinder Gold & set location to Medellin. Have about a dozen hits for chicas that. Assuming the pics are real. Look hot. I have several vanilla conversations going (in Spanish) where the girls say they "are looking forward to meeting me". That's cool. My concern is that I do not want to waste any time on a chica who is not willing to provide what I want sexually (for me that's at least sloppy BBBJ minimum).
For you veterans to the social media game. At what point do you transition the conversation from "you look cute" to "do you give sloppy BBBJs? If yes, how much do you charge?
Take my advice, Cucuta fucking sucks! Whatever girl you been talking with online that you want to meet, just fly her to medellin or the coast. TRSUT ME! It is the worst city in CO to hang in.
JamesPearle
04-25-22, 21:17
There is no American (North, South or Central) nor European destination that can hold a candle to the FKK's in Germany. As with many human endeavors, others do the best they can, Germans will see it and go ". Yeah. I don't think so. Why don't you hold my beer while I fix this for you. " lmao.
Build a combo posh night club, high end spa, bar, and restaurant. Add on a couple dozen luxury hotel rooms. Fill establishment with 100 insanely hot women. Dress code: "all women must be naked all the time". Tight management to make sure the customer service is excellent, the place is spotlessly clean and safe 24/7. Customers: Enjoy as many women as you can handle until your money runs out.
Simple yet glorious!
The FKKs in Germany are fantastic (even better Globe in Zurich) , but I want to go somewhere warm in the North American Winter.
Day 5 had a hotel change to the Parque Lleras area. With the entire park shut down under construction, I'm not a fan of it. The walk to the metro is longer than I like. The slope also makes the sidewalk irregularities even more treacherous. I actually took a slight spill despite walking along much worse sidewalks in poorer conditions. There are also more gringos, panhandlers, and scammers.
In any case, I did a quick pass though El Centro in the afternoon but didn't see anything worthwhile so after a snack, I headed back to LP. In the evening I walked a lot through the rain. Not a ton outside Gustos, but the women are hanging out on Cr 40 and Cr 38 by Calle 10. They also seem to be a lot in the bars and restaurants by Carrera 35. One woman just approached me and said she was flying back to Cal tomorrow and wanted to go with me tonight. I passed.
I also was the target of a pickpocket in a bikini top on Calle 10. She aggressively approached me and pushed her tits into me as her hand went to my pockets. I turned away but she grabbed my hand and then my wrist. She had my watch undone but not off my wrist before I grabbed it and her hand. She eventually let go and I continued on my way. That was all the excitement I had for the night as the rain and area wasn't really my vibe.
Day 6 had another Centro visit. Seeing the regulars, both chicas and gringos. Nothing too exciting so I popped into Conejitas. I got to see the voluptuous woman I had last time on stage which was fun. I bought her a beer after she got off stage but didn't partake.
It was early evening when I went to do another lap of El Centro. I ran into a regular chica who I briefly talked to on another day. After exchanging pleasantries, I asked how much and she said 25 k. We went to Botero Real where I paid with a ten and the staff passed two back. It was a bit unexpected for me so I just passed my chica the bill. A shower together and a quick session. I paid 30 k with a 20 and two 5's, hopefully making it clear the extra was for her. She's a nice young woman from Venezuela and no reason not to pay market.
After going back to my hotel in Parque Lleras, I saw some of the same faces from the night before but again, the rain, closed park, and vibe wasn't there for me.
Tinder Gold ...I do not want to waste any time on a chica who is not willing to provide what I want sexually ... At what point do you transition the conversation from "you look cute" to "do you give sloppy BBBJs? If yes, how much do you charge?I think you answered the question perfectly urself. You don't want to waste time, so get to the question pronto! What do you have to lose. Upsetting a conservative girl that you have no interest in meeting?
Take my advice, Cucuta fucking sucks! Whatever girl you been talking with online that you want to meet, just fly her to medellin or the coast. TRSUT ME! It is the worst city in CO to hang in.My advice is don't take anyone's advice, but consider everyone's advice before making a decision.
Some people are going to love Cucuta, some will hate it. It's like fucking a fat chick, some guys love it, even though I don't.
IMO just referring to that quick list is just being lazy.
I hear nothing but really bad things about most countries on that list (and ID love to hear how old that list is LMAO).
How many tiers do you think there should be for the list LOL (not even all countries I like are equally good).
Also notice how nobody labeled that list? Its not called the best of.
I just made a list, give us your top 10.
Lastly I'm sure I could get better putas in the USA than in at least 75% of the countries on that list.No, being lazy is not taking the time to read what somebody wrote nor attempting to comprehend what they're talking about. I didn't say anything about those places being the best. No, my initial inquiry was to another monger about whether or not he had been to couple of popular mongering destinations (Indonesia and Malaysia), without regard to whether or not they were among the best or not. I didn't say they were good, and nor did I say they were bad either for that matter. I've been to neither, so I don't know, but what I can tell from past activity on this site is that both destinations are popular. I said they were popular, and my point about the front page list of 16 was that the list served as evidence of their popularity since they're on it. That was my point, and nothing more. Not that they were "the best". I never said that. Nor did I claim that they were popular simply by observing the list, but I actually took the time to go and look at what was going on in each section activity-wise, particularly pre-pandemic. Imagine that! But when it comes to talking about "the best", I don't need a list of 16. I don't even need a list of 10. No, I only need a list of two, and that would be Brazil number one and Germany number two. As far as I'm concerned, every other place after Brazil and Germany is just a part of "the rest". And if you think you can do better than Brazil and Germany by staying in the States, then have at it bro. It's all yours! So go knock yourself out! But in the future, before you criticize something I write, please take the time to carefully read (and comprehend) it first. So, let me be 100% clear here. I'll say it again. Brazil and Germany are the best. And every other place is simply a part of the rest!
OK. I registered for Tinder Gold & set location to Medellin. Have about a dozen hits for chicas that. Assuming the pics are real. Look hot. I have several vanilla conversations going (in Spanish) where the girls say they "are looking forward to meeting me". That's cool. My concern is that I do not want to waste any time on a chica who is not willing to provide what I want sexually (for me that's at least sloppy BBBJ minimum).
For you veterans to the social media game. At what point do you transition the conversation from "you look cute" to "do you give sloppy BBBJs? If yes, how much do you charge?Here is how I usually do it. Compose a introductory description of yourself, where you're from whether you live here or are just visiting. Tell you get bored some evenings and would like some company. Ask her what she hoped to find on Tinder.
She will almost always respond to that question and ask you what you are looking for. If she just responds about what she likes and doesn't ask you. Tell her anyway.
Now you compose a second brief paragraph (remember the brief part) telling her what you like to do.
If she is interested she might ask you for your WhatsApp, she might ask you what you are going to pay. Etc. OR she might just ignore you because she was seeking a sugar-daddy and not a short-term amigo con derechos. However she responds you are either on your way to making a date OR you are not wasting too much time going out for drinks or meals (for which you customarily are obligated to pay and her taxis as well).
The other nice part is that if you compose these two paragraphs diligently you can copy and paste them with each contact (just remember to change the name in the greeting).
Take my advice, Cucuta fucking sucks! Whatever girl you been talking with online that you want to meet, just fly her to medellin or the coast. TRSUT ME! It is the worst city in CO to hang in.On the contrary, the 3 times I've been to Cucuta I enjoyed it. Stayed in the Mar Hotel (Hotel Mary) right there on la septima. Started out fucking girls in the rooms then brought ones I liked back to my room. I was there for 2 weeks in February. I ended up renting an Airbnb in villa del rosario (near the border with Venezuela) for $20 a day with a full kitchen, 2 beds, and swimming pool on-site. I had 2 different girls bringing me girls everyday and went thru about 2 dozen chicas in the time I was there. The only thing I didn't like was the heat (everyday in the 90's) and much heavier police presence with soldiers with automatic weapons and fatigues that you don't really see that much like that in medellin, but they never really fucked with me, I got stopped once and searched and asked for cedula then they let me go on my way.
-Gabacho.
There is no American (North, South or Central) nor European destination that can hold a candle to the FKK's in Germany. As with many human endeavors, others do the best they can, Germans will see it and go ". Yeah. I don't think so. Why don't you hold my beer while I fix this for you. " lmao.
Build a combo posh night club, high end spa, bar, and restaurant. Add on a couple dozen luxury hotel rooms. Fill establishment with 100 insanely hot women. Dress code: "all women must be naked all the time". Tight management to make sure the customer service is excellent, the place is spotlessly clean and safe 24/7. Customers: Enjoy as many women as you can handle until your money runs out.
Simple yet glorious!I was in Germany about four years ago and went to the FKK in Berlin, I forget the name, I'm sure you know it, and I paid something like 80 Euros for admission which didn't include partaking in the women. Quite a different experience for me as I was given a locker, sandals, and a robe in which to roam around in.
I walked out after about an hour not wanting to partake.
Just to organized and business like for my tastes and had decided to try an FKK so I could cross it off my mongering list.
I can see the allure of the FKK's for some, imagine as though your Hugh Hefner walking around in a robe in the Playboy Mansion with all those available women.
And I did have to jump out of second story balcony onto some nice, soft St. Augustine grass to get away from those sisters' posse who were coming up the stairs on the front side, and they were not from Welcome Wagon.I'd love to hear more!
the heat (everyday in the 90's) and much heavier police presence with soldiers with automatic weapons and fatigues.I have only been twice so perhaps the third time is the charm. I saw no charm. Cucuta is the second least charming city I have ever been to, second only to Clorinda, Argentina near the border with Paraguay. I also like grime but not hot, sweaty grime with terrible food.
I started my (weak) monger career with street workers and apartments in Milan, but the place that changed my life was Natal in Brazil 20 years ago, then Fotaleza, repeating multiple times. I like to create a relationship with girls, and Brazil was great for that. I guess that Brazil doesn't exist anymore.
Germany is FKK as far as I know. Places are well organized as you expect from DE, but there is no emotional involvement. It is a routine to discharge after a long business day, with beautiful eastern Europe pros.
Dominican Republic for me is mostly Sosua and Cabarete. You went there about 12 years ago. Cheap, but low quality. Not low for girls quality, but for the place. I had a couple of I'll-never-forget chicas, but I wouldn't go back again.
Thailand: Bangkok, Phuket, Koh Samui, and (lower in quality) Pattaya are must-go places for every monger at every age and multiple times. They massage and milk you the way you want, when you want and where you want. Little emotional involvement, but great kindness and easy holidays.
Moscow one day and night only in 2000: I remember the Red Square: I have never seen such a concentration of beautiful girls anywhere else in the world. A place to get crazy. I don't know why god blessed that place with so many gorgeous pussys. Maybe my genes programmed me this way, but even the scent of their skin drove me crazy.
Spain: Many visit to Madrid and Barcelona. They have many apartments with estudiantes, but I went there only for short business trips. Those girls know how to make you horny!
Prague, same as Spain, there are apartments, but I like better Latinas.
Amsterdam: I went there for business many times, I played my hobby, but it isn't really a place to go on vacation, just a stupid sex factory.
Colombia last November was my first mongering vacation after a 15 years gap. It is a great place! My attitude was very rusty, I had to learn things again almost from scratch, especially because I'm now 59, and this does change a lot: unlimited budget, and limited stamina, but I discovered the power of Cialis. In 3 weeks I visited Medellin, Cartagena and Santa Marta. Medellin is a fucking paradise. Cartagena is a chaotic touristic location. In this place it is better to have a buddy rather than mongering alone, especially for the day activities. Santa Marta is a pearl, but the temperature is so hot that I would need to stay there 3 weeks just to acclimate (I now live close to Denver). My 3 weeks in Colombia have been restless and I visited most of the places described by the senior ISG fellows. I'm sure, next time I will have more fun and with more tranquility and relaxation.
In July, or August I want to get there again for 3 weeks. Medellin for sure, this time I want to take an apartment at Energy and Poblado. Last time I went to Laureles, but my Airbnb was on the path of the airplanes taking off the close airport and that run my sleeping. I would like to see Cali, maybe Bogota that are pussy friendly too. I would like to see also the wild Pacific cost or the wild parks in the mountains, but I need to sort out how to combine this with chica. Having a novia coming with me to visit thous places is a dream.
My goal: be able to do at least 20% of what OsteoKnot does, paying no more than 200% more than him. I must admit I am rotten envious!
There is no American (North, South or Central) nor European destination that can hold a candle to the FKK's in Germany. As with many human endeavors, others do the best they can, Germans will see it and go ". Yeah. I don't think so. Why don't you hold my beer while I fix this for you. " lmao.
Build a combo posh night club, high end spa, bar, and restaurant. Add on a couple dozen luxury hotel rooms. Fill establishment with 100 insanely hot women. Dress code: "all women must be naked all the time". Tight management to make sure the customer service is excellent, the place is spotlessly clean and safe 24/7. Customers: Enjoy as many women as you can handle until your money runs out.
Simple yet glorious!I don't disagree. The FKKs are amazing. However, I live in Chicago. I generally like to travel between November and April to flee the cold weather. That's as big a part of my motivation for traveling as pussy is. I want to be somewhere with balmy weather and Germany between Nov and April is not balmy.
But yes, every guy that practices this hobby should experience the FKKs once in his life. No substitute for lots of hot women walking around completely naked. Just a mind-blowing experience.
FlagRunner77
04-26-22, 02:29
I think it depends on individual taste. I have been to every major mongering destination on the planet and the best country for mongering IMHO is Germany. Nothing beats being in a club and being surrounded by over a hundred hot naked girls.I think all of these posts really highlight the individual taste element. I have been to many FKK clubs spanning many trips and find most to be quite underwhelming (but very inexpensive both to fly to from the UK and for sex). I've had a couple of mind blowing performances, but the majority have been so-so. Not one has been terrible though. Germany wouldn't be near the top of my list of destinations for P4 P, all other things being equal.
There is no American (North, South or Central) nor European destination that can hold a candle to the FKK's in Germany. As with many human endeavors, others do the best they can, Germans will see it and go ". Yeah. I don't think so. Why don't you hold my beer while I fix this for you. " lmao.
Build a combo posh night club, high end spa, bar, and restaurant. Add on a couple dozen luxury hotel rooms. Fill establishment with 100 insanely hot women. Dress code: "all women must be naked all the time". Tight management to make sure the customer service is excellent, the place is spotlessly clean and safe 24/7. Customers: Enjoy as many women as you can handle until your money runs out.
Simple yet glorious!Sounds like Club Chameleon in Phoenix about 25 years ago, before the city council decided to outlaw the swinger clubs. There were some obvious differences. You couldn't get in on the weekends without a date, no alcohol was available or allowed, and the women were all shapes and sizes, and with a boyfriend or husband. $40 for a couple, unlimited free soft drinks, a decent buffet, DJ, pool tables and people fucking all around. Of course you couldn't just grab a girl and go fuck. Agreements had to be reached. On the plus side, once you paid to get in, it was all free.
There shouldn't be anything else like it. The FKKs sound perfectly German to me: well designed, efficient, high quality and expensive. Anywhere else it would be a poor substitute. To me, each place has its own appeal and specialty.
It reminds me of my old Navy roommate at Bangor, WA. Every breakfast place we visited he ordered biscuits and gravy, hoping to find what he enjoyed in Charleston and he was always disappointed. My attitude is order some steamed claims and enjoy what they're good at.
Or simply: "When in Rome."
I started my (weak) monger career with street workers and apartments in Milan, but the place that changed my life was Natal in Brazil 20 years ago, then Fotaleza, repeating multiple times. I like to create a relationship with girls, and Brazil was great for that. I guess that Brazil doesn't exist anymore.
Germany is FKK as far as I know. Places are well organized as you expect from DE, but there is no emotional involvement. It is a routine to discharge after a long business day, with beautiful eastern Europe pros.
Dominican Republic for me is mostly Sosua and Cabarete. You went there about 12 years ago. Cheap, but low quality. Not low for girls quality, but for the place. I had a couple of I'll-never-forget chicas, but I wouldn't go back again.
Thailand: Bangkok, Phuket, Koh Samui, and (lower in quality) Pattaya are must-go places for every monger at every age and multiple times. They massage and milk you the way you want, when you want and where you want. Little emotional involvement, but great kindness and easy holidays.
Moscow one day and night only in 2000: I remember the Red Square: I have never seen such a concentration of beautiful girls anywhere else in the world. A place to get crazy. I don't know why god blessed that place with so many gorgeous pussys. Maybe my genes programmed me this way, but even the scent of their skin drove me crazy.That's an interesting summary and worth reading. I don't necessarily agree that Colombia is the current pearl, but that's just my way of looking at it. I love Colombia and it suits me fine, but as all these reports show, everyone has different tastes.
Keep your eyes open. I'll be spending the last half of this week on the wild Pacific coast, with a novia, or reasonable facsimile. Until just a few days ago, I was also 59 (and in Denver), and understand the decrease in stamina.
Colombia is now the pearlI felt like I had found a like-minded monger. Very impressed with the list of places you have mongered and by your comments and insights.
My last four months in Medellin were a drug-fueled obsession with sex that was compensating for the absence of my novia, Catgirl. We are still solid, closer than ever, but I am not sure what I was doing was sustainable. With that said, once I recovered from my final night in MDE in that Puta Hotel, and then almost dying from urosepsis in JAX on my way home, and my sexual injury from crushing my right testicle seven weeks ago now at about 75% of normal, I feel pretty good at the moment, jajJaajajajajjaaaajaja.
Thanks for the compliment.
Ostee Out and let's stay open to the possibilities while we Keep On Keepin' On. Don't be jealous, it's one of the Seven Deadly Sins in some cultures, but they wear it like a badge of honor in MDE. The more jealous your chica, that mean the more she loves you. Jajajajaja. I am an utter disappointment in person, and comparisons are futile. I'm going to look for some random gratuitous fotos in your honor.
MarquisdeSade1
04-26-22, 08:05
No, being lazy is not taking the time to read what somebody wrote nor attempting to comprehend what they're talking about. I didn't say anything about those places being the best. No, my initial inquiry was to another monger about whether or not he had been to couple of popular mongering destinations (Indonesia and Malaysia), without regard to whether or not they were among the best or not. I didn't say they were good, and nor did I say they were bad either for that matter. I've been to neither, so I don't know, but what I can tell from past activity on this site is that both destinations are popular. I said they were popular, and my point about the front page list of 16 was that the list served as evidence of their popularity since they're on it. That was my point, and nothing more. Not that they were "the best". I never said that. Nor did I claim that they were popular simply by observing the list, but I actually took the time to go and look at what was going on in each section activity-wise, particularly pre-pandemic. Imagine that! But when it comes to talking about "the best", I don't need a list of 16. I don't even need a list of 10. No, I only need a list of two, and that would be Brazil number one and Germany number two. As far as I'm concerned, every other place after Brazil and Germany is just a part of "the rest". And if you think you can do better than Brazil and Germany by staying in the States, then have at it bro. It's all yours! So go knock yourself out! But in the future, before you criticize something I write, please take the time to carefully read (and comprehend) it first. So, let me be 100% clear here. I'll say it again. Brazil and Germany are the best. And every other place is simply a part of the rest!No, being lazy is not taking the time to read what somebody wrote nor attempting to comprehend what they're talking about. I didn't say anything about those places being the best?
LMAO.
Elvis 2008
04-26-22, 08:14
The following are my top ten:
1. Germany.
2. Thailand.
3. Brazil.
4. Colombia.
5. The Philippines.
6. Mexico.
7. Indonesia.
8. The Dominican Republic.
9. Costa Rica.
10. Panama.Interesting list. Turgid, have you been to Paraguay, Montreal, or Eastern European countries?
Without Montreal, Canada is not a top 10 country but with it, it is IMO.
Paraguay IMO is top 10 for me but it is a pain in the ass to get there.
And so many guys have told me Eastern European women are the best, but outside of Russia, I have never been.
MaddTraveler
04-26-22, 08:23
Costa Rica? Seriously. Maybe years ago. But I do not find most ticas to be naturally attractive, unlike Colombianas. The best ones you find in CR seems to be imports from Colombia, Venezuela, and Nicarauga. But to each his own. I quit going to CR for mongering long ago.Costa Rica has attractive women just like Colombia. I've been to Col just as many times as CR and I can tell you I prefer the attitudes of CR ticas over Colombianas. The main diff to me is ticas are smarter, and definitely not as superficial as Col chicas.
For those of you claiming you mostly meet with women from Col or Nicaragua when you were in CR, it simply means you haven't experienced actual women from CR so how would you know? LOL. All those south American countries have indigenous looking women that can all look similar like from Mexico, Panama, CR, COL, Peru, Nica, etc. But you also have many European descent / look in CR just like COL / ARG.
Because of the pandemic many good places are closed, but still don't be lazy and only rating the women of the country only w / cheap WG from brothels, imported ones especially. The ideal women of any country anywhere whether CR or COL, will be on FB, SA, Dating sites, and in University campuses. They will not be along side the illegal or working-girl imports like the Dominicanas, Nicas, Vennies in brothels. Not that there's something wrong w those, just saying CR has a whole lot more to offer for a fair comparison when it comes to attractiveness of women. Just make a little effort to actually talk to real women there and you'll see how impressive and intimidating they are.
I can see the appeal of the FKKs but to me I just felt like Santa Claus. Ho, ho, ho. Nada de chispa. Did a couple, it was fun, not my scene.
I'd love to hear more!I don't think those girls wanted to do me harm by the time their posse was coming for me on our third day together in Cucuta. I believe they were committed to this course of action from the first day we met, before we started getting along well. We didn't start out on the best terms, as I will explain.
I found Rita on-line on xHamster. I will look at Web cam models on-line ahead of time if I am headed into a city. I have a couple of very interesting prospects for MDE for my next return, even though I sure as hell don't need the extra warm bodies or wet holes, but I can't help myself. I am second-generation monger. Overall, probably I get less than 5% of my chicas on-line but it is one of many options.
Rita wasn't the prettiest In the face and I used to tease her about her goofy glasses, but when you watched her live she was very natural, hawter than fuck, and I could tell her body was fresh and tight with a low mileage pussy. She had some of the most beautiful hands I had ever seen. I will post some fotos I saved of her camming. Her sister had a gorgeous face.
Anywho, I got her to agree to meet. I had a couple of other Cucuta girls supposedly waiting in the wings but didn't need them. My rule of thumb is always have at least three chicas lined when traveling for trim, to compensate for the potential flake rate. After I found my BnB, I took a taxi to her Webcam studio.
The "studio" was simply a detached house that did not stand out in a residential neighborhood. They would not let me inside. I had to pass the Mama-San's visual inspection before she would let Rita come outside. I spoke almost no Spanish back then in 2019.
I picked an Airbnb apartment that was close to the studio but it was still a 12-15 minute taxi drive. We were headed there when Rita took a phone call and suddenly said we had to go back and get her sister.
We found her sister standing outside on a typical scorching Cucuta day with a packed suitcase. She was also a cam model at the same studio, and had just broken up with her boyfriend.
She hopped in the taxi. Using Google Translate, I quickly seized the opportunity and said if the sister was coming back to the Airbnb with us, a studio with one bed, then I get to fuck them both. They both said no. In the true mongering spirit, I stopped the taxi and made them both get out at a residential street corner, vacant lot. Yeah, I was an asshole, so what else is new?
I believe this is when they formulated their plan to "get even" with me and set me up for some crime. Anywho, as I expected, my offer was better than standing outside in the ninety plus degree sun so fifteen minutes later Rita called back and said she and her sister agreed. I made it clear that sis would not be getting off easy and whatever I did to one I could do to the other. I was still in the taxi and we circled back.
After a slightly slow start things went great over the next few days. The girls continued to work shifts at the studio but there was no shortage of sex with them separately or together. Lots of laughing.
On the last day, they were making a phone call. I didn't know much Spanish but it was easy to tell they gave out my address to someone. I know they didn't need a ride because I already gave them taxi money. They denied calling anyone to come over.
My Spidey-Sense went on full alert. Fortunately, I travel very light with one medium backpack. I quickly finished packing. Line of sight I saw a car pull up with three or four guys in it, park in front and get out. Fortunately there were two locked gates between us but the first one somehow was unlocked and I could hear them inside the building stairwell at the second gate which may or may not have been locked, maybe the chicas left it unlocked, I thought.
At that point I wasn't waiting around to see how this played out. I tossed my backpack over the rail of the balcony. I grabbed Rita by her thick hair at the nape of her neck and gave her a hard deep kiss on the lips. Continuing with my best Douglas Fairbanks, Sr imitation I could muster. I vaulted over the rail of the balcony. I knew the ground was super thick and soft St. Augustine turf which was like landing on a sponge.
I was way past my championship athletic prime but I managed a tuck and roll without any ankle pain, snagged my backpack, and I was up and running, all in one smooth motion, never looked back. Ran out to the main drag and quickly caught a taxi to the airport.
Rita made serious capitulations about wanting to get married and staying together forever. She was very religious and insanely jealous of her sister, BTW. When I didn't return the attention and she could see I was a monger, we never spoke again. This was after she stiffed me for the price of a one-way air ticket from CUC-MDE, but I did not have high hopes there because she had never been on a plane before.
In conclusion, because the sex was amazing and I was not harmed, I would say it was worth it. If I stayed 45 seconds longer and those guys somehow made it into the room, who knows? Since there were two girls I could see difficulty in controlling both of them. They might be able to let the guys in, and I didn't want to get violent with the chicas, so leaving like I did seemed like the best option at the time and I still believe it was.
Ostee Out, and that's one way to Keep On Keepin' On.
I was in Germany about four years ago and went to the FKK in Berlin, I forget the name, I'm sure you know it, and I paid something like 80 Euros for admission which didn't include partaking in the women. Quite a different experience for me as I was given a locker, sandals, and a robe in which to roam around in.
I walked out after about an hour not wanting to partake.
Just to organized and business like for my tastes and had decided to try an FKK so I could cross it off my mongering list.
I can see the allure of the FKK's for some, imagine as though your Hugh Hefner walking around in a robe in the Playboy Mansion with all those available women.This is so very interesting. You visit Artemis which is a club with dozens of hot naked women and you do not bang any then you go to El Centro and shag like there's no tomorrow while I go to el Centro and just walk through but never leave an FKK without sampling a few hotties. The human race is so amazing.
Agree Turgid. I have friends who won't pay more than 100-150 k for a girl, and brag about their negotiation skills and how many girls they turn down. They then show me the girl (s) and I wouldn't bang her for free!
Conversely I get sh*t when I have a couple 200-300 k dinners with a non-pro, educated hottie in the hopes of scoring something regular. We're each driven by different things. My preference is to pay more for quality (looks, experience), even if it means fucking less.
We're all driven by different things.
This is so very interesting. You visit Artemis which is a club with dozens of hot naked women and you do not bang any then you go to El Centro and shag like there's no tomorrow while I go to el Centro and just walk through but never leave an FKK without sampling a few hotties. The human race is so amazing.
You are a good brother, honest and knowledgeable. I hope to see more of your posts.
I started my (weak) monger career with street workers and apartments in Milan, but the place that changed my life was Natal in Brazil 20 years ago, then Fotaleza, repeating multiple times. I like to create a relationship with girls, and Brazil was great for that. I guess that Brazil doesn't exist anymore.
Germany is FKK as far as I know. Places are well organized as you expect from DE, but there is no emotional involvement. It is a routine to discharge after a long business day, with beautiful eastern Europe pros.
Dominican Republic for me is mostly Sosua and Cabarete. You went there about 12 years ago. Cheap, but low quality. Not low for girls quality, but for the place. I had a couple of I'll-never-forget chicas, but I wouldn't go back again.
Thailand: Bangkok, Phuket, Koh Samui, and (lower in quality) Pattaya are must-go places for every monger at every age and multiple times. They massage and milk you the way you want, when you want and where you want. Little emotional involvement, but great kindness and easy holidays.
Moscow one day and night only in 2000: I remember the Red Square: I have never seen such a concentration of beautiful girls anywhere else in the world. A place to get crazy. I don't know why god blessed that place with so many gorgeous pussys. Maybe my genes programmed me this way, but even the scent of their skin drove me crazy.
JamesPearle
04-26-22, 16:24
Many thanks.
Here is how I usually do it. Compose a introductory description of yourself, where you're from whether you live here or are just visiting. Tell you get bored some evenings and would like some company. Ask her what she hoped to find on Tinder.
She will almost always respond to that question and ask you what you are looking for. If she just responds about what she likes and doesn't ask you. Tell her anyway.
Now you compose a second brief paragraph (remember the brief part) telling her what you like to do.
If she is interested she might ask you for your WhatsApp, she might ask you what you are going to pay. Etc. OR she might just ignore you because she was seeking a sugar-daddy and not a short-term amigo con derechos. However she responds you are either on your way to making a date OR you are not wasting too much time going out for drinks or meals (for which you customarily are obligated to pay and her taxis as well)..
I am going to try Medellin for two weeks. I was many times in Bogota and like Santa Fe = many girls and clubs in one place (I don't want / need to make circles around the city in the hope to find a perfect girl) Could anyone please advice a solid workflow / casas / clubs / Airbnb / etc?
I like girls 20-25 year old, preferably low mileage, and some choice.
Thanks.
Steve 9696
04-26-22, 18:13
This is so very interesting. You visit Artemis which is a club with dozens of hot naked women and you do not bang any then you go to El Centro and shag like there's no tomorrow while I go to el Centro and just walk through but never leave an FKK without sampling a few hotties. The human race is so amazing.Yep. It's amazing. I don't like the gritty street scene and some guys can’t get it up without some grit! And the taste variation as well. Can't pay me to fuck a blue eyed blond and some guys won't have anything but that for dinner. Makes me think of all the worldwide formats and how there are all the different ways to hook up. Some my faves off the top of my head (there is of course incall outcall and street almost everywhere. Rarely my fave save London below:
Germany Austria Switzerland- FKK as discussed.
So Paulo. Boate - nightclub with all pros and semi pros often on-site rooms.
Medellin. Facebook girls! I don't know anywhere else right off hand with this as a primary access.
London. Agency incall. Fuck in the girls own bedroom. Sweet.
Tokyo. Tiny booking agency. Meet and walk hand in hand to Love Hotel.
Moscow. Strip club w on-site fucking.
Taiwan. Karaoke! Wtf. It's sooo fun.
Thailand. Strip clubs. Fishbowl!
Spain. Righteous old school brothel.
USA. Seeking Arrangement.
Every format has something unique and desirable about it. So I don't debate what's best. I just do them all! LOL.
Agree Turgid. I have friends who won't pay more than 100-150 k for a girl, and brag about their negotiation skills and how many girls they turn down. They then show me the girl (s) and I wouldn't bang her for free!
Conversely I get sh*t when I have a couple 200-300 k dinners with a non-pro, educated hottie in the hopes of scoring something regular. We're each driven by different things. My preference is to pay more for quality (looks, experience), even if it means fucking less..I don't care to pay more for quality, I have my 3 regular when I visit Medellin, all 8-9 look but services 10 and all bare sex. I keep in touch with them when I'm home even during a few months. When I visit they make room in there schedule to meet me.
1- 22 years old Law student met at the mall no price ask from her, gave her gift and money, very intelligent women.
2- 20 years Seeking, 300 k for half day.
3- 21 years student, expensive gift and money.
There is quality girl in Medellin, best are non pro and semi pro.
This is so very interesting. You visit Artemis which is a club with dozens of hot naked women and you do not bang any then you go to El Centro and shag like there's no tomorrow while I go to el Centro and just walk through but never leave an FKK without sampling a few hotties. The human race is so amazing.The issue I had with the FFK is that it was way to organized and predictable for me.
No argument that there were lots of hotties ready to be taken up stairs, but all the rules, time constraints, is just not how I roll.
And don't get me wrong, I felt like Hugh Hefner walking around the place, but I wasn't up for a scripted routine with any of the women there.
I went there out of curiosity, and strongly recommend that anyone who has never been to an FKK or similar place in Europe, should go and check it out if they have the opportunity.
However, I cannot ever imagine having an experience in an FKK similar to what I've experienced in Centro.
And I'm not talking about the pools, the game room, the spa, the sauna, the food, the bar, and the sight of all those pretty girls walking around naked. All of that stuff means nothing nothing to me, yet for others is huge.
I personally like the unexpected / anything goes experiences versus the predictable, scripted, and routine performances that the girls in the FKK's dish out.
On many occasions I have said everyone rolls differently, with no way being any better than the other.
I felt like I had found a like-minded monger. Very impressed with the list of places you have mongered and by your comments and insights.
My last four months in Medellin were a drug-fueled obsession with sex that was compensating for the absence of my novia, Catgirl. We are still solid, closer than ever, but I am not sure what I was doing was sustainable. With that said, once I recovered from my final night in MDE in that Puta Hotel, and then almost dying from urosepsis in JAX on my way home, and my sexual injury from crushing my right testicle seven weeks ago now at about 75% of normal, I feel pretty good at the moment, jajJaajajajajjaaaajaja.
Thanks for the compliment.
Ostee Out and let's stay open to the possibilities while we Keep On Keepin' On. Don't be jealous, it's one of the Seven Deadly Sins in some cultures, but they wear it like a badge of honor in MDE. The more jealous your chica, that mean the more she loves you. Jajajajaja. I am an utter disappointment in person, and comparisons are futile. I'm going to look for some random gratuitous fotos in your honor.How did you crush your right nut? How is that even possible?
Just curious do your top 10 novias receive a monthly allowance or any type of help while you are not in Colombia? My issue with "novias", as opposed to P4P, is that they want some type of financial support while I am away. How do you deal w this issue?
The issue I had with the FFK is that it was way to organized and predictable for me.Own it. Jajajaja.
Of course a Ground Zero Ghetto Rat (I am also a card-carrying member) who revels over saving 10 mil COP for a sexual session is going to feel out of his environs in an FKK. That is predictable. Keep On Keepin' On Surfer Dude.
Cheap is not poor. It's worse. I heard yesterday Tiger Woods was a terrible tipper. I wonder if that's true or if it's just hero bashing.
Own it. Jajajaja.
Of course a Ground Zero Ghetto Rat (I am also a card-carrying member) who revels over saving 10 mil COP for a sexual session is going to feel out of his environs in an FKK. That is predictable. Keep On Keepin' On Surfer Dude.
Cheap is not poor. It's worse. I heard yesterday Tiger Woods was a terrible tipper. I wonder if that's true or if it's just hero bashing.You totally missed the point.
It had nothing to do with money, if it had been, I would of never forked over the 80 Euros to enter.
It was all about the service I would obtain, not what is was going to cost.
And you know exactly what I'm talking about, as all of our Centro bunnies would sexually run circles around them.
MarquisdeSade1
04-27-22, 02:13
The issue I had with the FFK is that it was way to organized and predictable for me.
No argument that there were lots of hotties ready to be taken up stairs, but all the rules, time constraints, is just not how I roll.
And don't get me wrong, I felt like Hugh Hefner walking around the place, but I wasn't up for a scripted routine with any of the women there.
I went there out of curiosity, and strongly recommend that anyone who has never been to an FKK or similar place in Europe, should go and check it out if they have the opportunity.
However, I cannot ever imagine having an experience in an FKK similar to what I've experienced in Centro.
And I'm not talking about the pools, the game room, the spa, the sauna, the food, the bar, and the sight of all those pretty girls walking around naked. All of that stuff means nothing nothing to me, yet for others is huge.
I personally like the unexpected / anything goes experiences versus the predictable, scripted, and routine performances that the girls in the FKK's dish out.
On many occasions I have said everyone rolls differently, with no way being any better than the other.I agree with much of it.
Sans this line.
"with no way being any better than the other".
I have traveled the world over looking for the best way, and I've found it.
FlagRunner77
04-27-22, 02:21
Looking to find a chica friendly hotel for 5 days next month. Staying the first few days in Hotel M to get my bearings and hopefully make some buddies / get some advice. After that I was looking to airbnbs, but I've decided on a hotel this time around.
Has anyone stayed at both orange suites and Dorada 70, and can compare the two? I'm undecided. Balcony is a must (just because!) other than that, my main requirements are safety and quiet. Location isn't really an issue as long as it's not out in the boonies. I like the look of the superior double rooms of orange suites (do those have balconies?) and the executive rooms of Dorado 70. Hoping for around $300-$350 for 5 nights.
If anyone has any other recommendations for relatively upscale, safe, importantly chica friendly accommodation I'm missing, I'm still open to suggestions.
And, yes, I've RTFF! Nuti and San Peter aren't for me. And I really want to stay at the Charlee but not in my price bracket this trip.
Thanks.
MarquisdeSade1
04-27-22, 02:21
Yep. It's amazing. I don't like the gritty street scene and some guys cant get it up without some grit! And the taste variation as well. Can't pay me to fuck a blue eyed blond and some guys won't have anything but that for dinner. Makes me think of all the worldwide formats and how there are all the different ways to hook up. Some my faves off the top of my head (there is of course incall outcall and street almost everywhere. Rarely my fave save London below:
Germany Austria Switzerland- FKK as discussed.
So Paulo. Boate - nightclub with all pros and semi pros often on-site rooms.
Medellin. Facebook girls! I don't know anywhere else right off hand with this as a primary access..I've seen my share of it, altho a bit too much on the tourist trap trail for me these days.
Great post except for this line, "Can't pay me to fuck a blue eyed blond" seriously?
I don't chase that anymore I caught all the 10's I needed.
Not saying this applies to you we've never met, but some will say that because of a severe case of sour grapes.
I love steak, I don't want it every meal, but you will never see me turn down a 100 oz Prime grade bone in ribeye.
Likewise, I'm done chasing overpriced blond blue eyed 18 yo goddesses.
But you won't see me turning them down anytime soon either LOL.
Muchas gracias.
How did you crush your right nut? How is that even possible?
Just curious do your top 10 novias receive a monthly allowance or any type of help while you are not in Colombia? My issue with "novias", as opposed to P4 P, is that they want some type of financial support while I am away. How do you deal w this issue?First the nux of the crux, jajaja. Cowgirl position, on my back, with Caribe who was very muscular and forceful. I put my legs together to give her more penetration. My right nut popped up and rested on my pubic bone. She came down hard and fast and squashed my nut between her bone and mine. I think for a second my nut was flat. Did not miss a beat and I kept going but I have an unnaturally high pain threshold.
Only Mi Numero Uno Novia Catgirl ever got a steady allowance but at the moment she doesn't need it because of the money she is making on TikTok. Other chicas I know ask me five to ten times a week for money and I say no nine out of ten times. I pay for my godson's school supplies and stuff like that.
Very important to know how to say no. But I don't mean 100% of the time. These chicas would rather have your money than respect you, but they will respect someone who is not a pushover. They will get their money somehow. They will tell you literally that they are starving to death, or someone will die for lack of meds if you don't give them money. This can make it difficult because sometimes their need is real, but virtually never as severe as they make it sound.
You have often heard it said that chicas are getting their money from more than one gringo. I don't know what the big deal is about that. Very true, some of the times. Believe it or not, it's not that easy to get a gringo to send regular money long term. The gringos who do so may be delusional about believing they are the one and only to said chica. If the chicas are available and prioritize you when you are in town, why worry about that shit? Plus, my relationships are open with ALL my chicas, although a couple of them dedicate themselves to me but not because I ask them to do so. I am a big believer in what is good for the goose is good for the gander, and fairness in a relationship.
I don't know exactly how to tell it but there is a way to refuse them money where they will still stick with you. The ones who don't, you are probably better off without them. You can play it straight GF if you want and some guys act like that is a win if you don't ever give a chica money. But if I have real feelings for a chica and she is giving me what I need, why wouldn't I want to share my good fortune? For me not to do so would be slimy. There isn't a guy reading this who could not give something proportional to what they have, if they so chose.
P4 P girls will expect to see something from you, at some point, it can just be what you would normally P4 P, but you want to stack up favorably to the other mongers out there, which ain't hard to do.
Took me a long time to learn this, but my chicas will stay with me if I simply show some empathy and acknowledge their difficulties, without sending money. I pick my spots and do send money, the amount is not noticeable to me which begs the question, am I really giving?
My main message to the girls when I am away is, wait until I see you in person and we'll talk about it then. Don't lie to them. The worst thing you can do in their eyes is promise some kind of benefit, money being the obvious example, and then not do it. Don't even promise to fuck them or see them unless you really plan on doing it. They take that shit personal because it is personal.
Bottom line, it takes TIME to get the right girls assembled and it's solely your decision what you do to keep the ones you like or not. There is always a great chica waiting in the wings who appreciate a decent guy, so if it get unenjoyable, move on. IMO guys don't cut the line soon enough, in general. BTW, when you do cut a chica loose, they invariably circle back around for you. Now you have the upper hand. I am not playing for the upper hand but that's how it plays out.
Man, you know I don't like giving advice but you got me going. Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On my Brother in Hijinx. If you find a nugget or two of useful information in my ramblings, it takes time to determine if it is working for you or not. Let us know.
I got a new computer and moving stuff around I am seeing a lot of fotos I have not seen in awhile. Such as these. As always, my fotos are original. Haters been trying to catch me posting duplicates from other sources for years, jajaja. So far they are batting 0 for 22, 114. Jajajajajajaa, I made those numbers up but not the result. Enjoy.
Looking to find a chica friendly hotel for 5 days next month. Staying the first few days in Hotel M to get my bearings and hopefully make some buddies / get some advice. After that I was looking to airbnbs, but I've decided on a hotel this time around.
Has anyone stayed at both orange suites and Dorada 70, and can compare the two? I'm undecided. Balcony is a must (just because!) other than that, my main requirements are safety and quiet. Location isn't really an issue as long as it's not out in the boonies. I like the look of the superior double rooms of orange suites (do those have balconies?) and the executive rooms of Dorado 70. Hoping for around $300-$350 for 5 nights.
If anyone has any other recommendations for relatively upscale, safe, importantly chica friendly accommodation I'm missing, I'm still open to suggestions.
And, yes, I've RTFF! Nuti and San Peter aren't for me. And I really want to stay at the Charlee but not in my price bracket this trip.
Thanks.It's Dorado la 70. You should be able to get a nice double room with a balcony well within your suggested price range. Quiet? Just how noise sensitive are you? One side of the hotel faces la 70 which is loud and very busy well into the morning hours but the glass doors are pretty good the noise doesn't bother me in the slightest. You likely can get a room with a balcony facing 69 a and the noise would be nothing but the view is nothing also.
For those of you claiming you mostly meet with women from Col or Nicaragua when you were in CR, it simply means you haven't experienced actual women from CR so how would you know? I lived in CR at ground zero and I fucked plenty of ticas. In the process of fucking ticas and nicas, I determined that nicas were better fucks, so now that I'm only visiting for short periods, that's who I tend to go for. Not saying there is anything wrong with ticas and I also prefer their attitudes to Colombians' attitudes. But a Paraguayan will fuck you silly and then clean your apartment.
Looking to find a chica friendly hotel for 5 days next month. Staying the first few days in Hotel M to get my bearings and hopefully make some buddies / get some advice. After that I was looking to airbnbs, but I've decided on a hotel this time around.
Has anyone stayed at both orange suites and Dorada 70, and can compare the two? I'm undecided. Balcony is a must (just because!) other than that, my main requirements are safety and quiet. Location isn't really an issue as long as it's not out in the boonies. I like the look of the superior double rooms of orange suites (do those have balconies?) and the executive rooms of Dorado 70. Hoping for around $300-$350 for 5 nights.
If anyone has any other recommendations for relatively upscale, safe, importantly chica friendly accommodation I'm missing, I'm still open to suggestions.
And, yes, I've RTFF! Nuti and San Peter aren't for me. And I really want to stay at the Charlee but not in my price bracket this trip..I haven't stayed at the Dorada 70, but know the general area, and have stayed at Orange Suites. The Orange Suites is located in the Astorga Barrio, on a quiet street about two blocks from Parque Poblado, and about a five minute walk from Parque Lleras.
Depending on how you monger, if your going to be pulling girls from Lleras, than it's an easy walk, downhill about five blocks, and yes they have rooms with Balconies, and lots of eating options nearby.
Probably the biggest difference is going to be the physical location within the City.
So again, if your going to be doing some mongering out of Lleras, the Orange Suites will be a better bet.
I'm 30 and I've been in Colombia hooking up with 7's for the most part free of charge off tinder and meeting in public but I want to turbo charge and start entering the semi pro game. I am realizing that even free chicas come with price tags like the US.
To contribute to the board I can share how to pull chicas and have plenty of dates from non p4 p. Then I hope someone can help me find the stunners who are semi pro and I can wife up for a bit or at least have a novia experience with. My Spanish is intermediate and I'm in shañe and well put together.
I arrived in Poblado and have been matching nonstop on tinder with mostly non pros and pros. Non pros are about 6-7's and want to be taken out. They do not always put out and require work. These girls will drop panties for you on the 2nd or 3rd date, especially if you take them are.
To a reggeaton club. I've made plenty of friends here and I recommend you find gringos who can go on doubles or group dates because they are better.
On the ground, its pretty easy to chat up a waitress and ask for their number. Don't be scared. Same playbook applies.
I have an empty facebook account and ID like some help starting it up with some contacts. I also don't mind hitting up a club or something low key if someone is down. Lastly, what's the most point and click experience I can get in Poblado? Prefer casas but I am willing to go to a club.
.....On many occasions I have said everyone rolls differently, with no way being any better than the other.We should all be grateful for this. Could you imagine if all mongers were like you? Then there would be thousands upon thousands of gringos walking the streets of El Centro shoulder to shoulder looking for chicas who are all continuously busy. Thankfully we all have different tastes.
FlagRunner77
04-27-22, 17:56
It's Dorado la 70. You should be able to get a nice double room with a balcony well within your suggested price range. Quiet? Just how noise sensitive are you? One side of the hotel faces la 70 which is loud and very busy well into the morning hours but the glass doors are pretty good the noise doesn't bother me in the slightest. You likely can get a room with a balcony facing 69 a and the noise would be nothing but the view is nothing also.Thanks for the response. I think Dorado is my preference. Hopefully I can live with the noise for the trade off of the view. I always bring earplugs as a backup.
FlagRunner77
04-27-22, 17:58
I haven't stayed at the Dorada 70, but know the general area, and have stayed at Orange Suites. The Orange Suites is located in the Astorga Barrio, on a quiet street about two blocks from Parque Poblado, and about a five minute walk from Parque Lleras.
Depending on how you monger, if your going to be pulling girls from Lleras, than it's an easy walk, downhill about five blocks, and yes they have rooms with Balconies, and lots of eating options nearby.
Probably the biggest difference is going to be the physical location within the City.
So again, if your going to be doing some mongering out of Lleras, the Orange Suites will be a better bet.Thanks Surfer. At the moment I'm not planning to be visiting Lleras much, but who knows once I'm there! Dorado is my current preference based on the room quality from the photos. Taking location out of the equation, I think Dorado may just sneak it. Unless there are any suggestions for other chica friendly hotels that I should consider.
Thanks for the response. I think Dorado is my preference. Hopefully I can live with the noise for the trade off of the view. I always bring earplugs as a backup.Their double paned, thick, sound proof sliding glass doors are amazing. Almost every time I had a guest over I would slide them open and shut, to demonstrate the difference.
But you have to be realistic. When a party bus drives buy and sets off their horn (the word "honking" just does not fit at that decibel level) you are going to hear it.
Random gratuitous fotos.
MaddTraveler
04-27-22, 21:14
Looking to find a chica friendly hotel for 5 days next month. Staying the first few days in Hotel M to get my bearings and hopefully make some buddies / get some advice. After that I was looking to airbnbs, but I've decided on a hotel this time around.
Has anyone stayed at both orange suites and Dorada 70, and can compare the two? I'm undecided. Balcony is a must (just because!) other than that, my main requirements are safety and quiet. Location isn't really an issue as long as it's not out in the boonies. I like the look of the superior double rooms of orange suites (do those have balconies?) and the executive rooms of Dorado 70. Hoping for around $300-$350 for 5 nights.
If anyone has any other recommendations for relatively upscale, safe, importantly chica friendly accommodation I'm missing, I'm still open to suggestions.
And, yes, I've RTFF! Nuti and San Peter aren't for me. And I really want to stay at the Charlee but not in my price bracket this trip..I prefer Dorado La 70 over Orange Suites. Dorado is cheaper and more centralized where you can walk (no hills) to restaurants and nightlife, a bit diff than Poblado of course. But if you want to be close to Parque Lleras then Orange suite is better.
Some pros:
- Lower cost / professional friendly staff.
- Very safe, 24/7 security and reception, busy street w police presence.
- Close to ATM, money exchange, restaurants, bars, train.
- Girl friendly. (one at a time or 50 k unless you booked double).
- And really really delicious breakfast.
A large part of the draw is gone with the entire area barricaded off. The entire park is off limits so while there's still Gustos and the clubs there, I'd just suggest staying in La Setenta and cabbing over to the clubs if you want a taste. I was a bit disappointed with my stay in that neighborhood and enjoyed my Estadio time much more.
I was in Germany about four years ago and went to the FKK in Berlin, I forget the name, I'm sure you know it, and I paid something like 80 Euros for admission which didn't include partaking in the women. Quite a different experience for me as I was given a locker, sandals, and a robe in which to roam around in.
I walked out after about an hour not wanting to partake.
Just to organized and business like for my tastes and had decided to try an FKK so I could cross it off my mongering list.
I can see the allure of the FKK's for some, imagine as though your Hugh Hefner walking around in a robe in the Playboy Mansion with all those available women.I feel you Surf.
I was in Germany for a couple weeks as well. Berlin and Munich.
I visited the FKKs in each city.
I did partake, and had a good time, however, I'm a Centro guy as well, have been for many years.
Centro of Medellin, Rio and SP.
I'm in S Paulo now actually.
For the luxury, convenience and the beauty of the women I enjoyed the FKKs.
This girl from Moldova who I went with is probably the most beautiful of my life, and we had nice programmed type sex.
I'm glad I have the experience and memory with her.
In contrast, however, today I met a beautiful 19 year old morena here in Centro SP and she was amazing.
That anything goes, no holds barred, great sex you can find on the hunt, and when I gave her the equivalent of about 20 dollars she was grateful.
I'd take that every day over the FKK.
A large part of the draw is gone with the entire area barricaded off. The entire park is off limits so while there's still Gustos and the clubs there, I'd just suggest staying in La Setenta and cabbing over to the clubs if you want a taste. I was a bit disappointed with my stay in that neighborhood and enjoyed my Estadio time much more.I need some experienced Pobladians to chime in, but when I went to Poblado, the park was cordoned off with orange tape, and I didn't see that effecting the action that was going on much if at all. Yeah, it's a little uglier with the park tore up but my wingman who loves the place told me the action was on the surrounding streets and not inside the park, which is very small.
To my limited experience in Poblado, the park is to the mongering game, what the courtyard and fountain are in front of the church to Ground Zero. Focal points but not where most of the action occurs. Correct me if I am wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken, jeje.
Random Gratuitous Fotos.
I feel you Surf.
I was in Germany for a couple weeks as well. Berlin and Munich.
I visited the FKKs in each city.
I did partake, and had a good timeMe too, once, and once was enough. Really not into fat naked guys, hanging around in bathrobes, or combining food gorging with sex gorging. Tried it, not knocking it, not for me. Plus who wants to fly to Germany for that kind of weather? No.
Latin pussy in temperate, high altitude climates, at a considerable discount to FKK, with more personal interaction and better prospects to continue any possibilities off-site, with a low cost of living, is what I seek. So what you want is MDE with less crime. La Serena or Los Andes in Chile. Mendoza in Argentina. Puebla in México. Trujillo in Perú. Trujillo is not high altitude but has a good climate and some bitching chongos. And little to no rain.
AtlNightmare
04-28-22, 04:50
What's up brothers. I have a question when I was in Medellin last month I went to Guatape and on my way back the taxi went through some traffic getting in Medellin and it was not Parque Lleras. This place was so crowded with people that was out partying it was like a strip of some sort it was on the right hand side coming into Medellin but it looked like it was super fun. I know I am shooting in the dark but wanted to know if anyone know where or what that was I passed. Going back soon and I want to go. Thanks.
FlagRunner77
04-28-22, 05:09
I feel you Surf.
I was in Germany for a couple weeks as well. Berlin and Munich.
I visited the FKKs in each city.
I did partake, and had a good time, however, I'm a Centro guy as well, have been for many years.
Centro of Medellin, Rio and SP.
I'm in S Paulo now actually.
For the luxury, convenience and the beauty of the women I enjoyed the FKKs.
This girl from Moldova who I went with is probably the most beautiful of my life, and we had nice programmed type sex.
I'm glad I have the experience and memory with her.
In contrast, however, today I met a beautiful 19 year old morena here in Centro SP and she was amazing.
That anything goes, no holds barred, great sex you can find on the hunt, and when I gave her the equivalent of about 20 dollars she was grateful.
I'd take that every day over the FKK.This FKK discussion is pretty interesting, it really demonstrates the polar opposites of mongers and what they look for.
For any monger who hasn't visited a FKK, I do strongly recommend the trip at least once. You pay an entry fee for full day and, in the better houses such as Golden Time, you get free roam when it comes to the food and alcohol (local beer only, but included in the price). And you are in the company of naked women the whole day, with access to jaccuzi, sauna and even porn cinema.
If that's what you look for in an experience, great. But the parties are largely mechanical. Yes, the women are stunning. I'd say approximately 90% are from Romania, so don't come expecting a harem of blonde haired, blue-eyed beauties. Also, don't expect any kind of GFE at all. If you are into GFE, you will almost certainly leave disappointed. But it is not impossible. Lots of locals visit on a weekly basis, so you are up against strong, local, regular competition.
But it is still quite an experience. For info, notable houses are Golden Time (daytime), Living Room, Oase, Sharks, Acapulco, and my personal favourite Babylon in Elsdorf. They were fun at the time, but there were also lots of frustrating experiences. As I get older, I place more value on GFE. But if you are still in a PSE phase, there's probably nowhere better.
I need some experienced Pobladians to chime in, but when I went to Poblado, the park was cordoned off with orange tape, and I didn't see that effecting the action that was going on much if at all. Yeah, it's a little uglier with the park tore up but my wingman who loves the place told me the action was on the surrounding streets and not inside the park, which is very small.
To my limited experience in Poblado, the park is to the mongering game, what the courtyard and fountain are in front of the church to Ground Zero. Focal points but not where most of the action occurs. Correct me if I am wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken, jeje..A lot of the girls used to congregate inside the park, so you would find them there. However, I always saw better options on the surrounding streets.
A large part of the draw is gone with the entire area barricaded off. The entire park is off limits so while there's still Gustos and the clubs there, I'd just suggest staying in La Setenta and cabbing over to the clubs if you want a taste. I was a bit disappointed with my stay in that neighborhood and enjoyed my Estadio time much more.With the Park being under renovation it's a different venue than before.
I know that sounds a bit odd, but instead of all the girls being scattered around they are kind of lined up and down on the Gustos side of the park from Juan Valdez with some spillover going to Calle 10 on the side streets.
So you now kind of have a "line up" , versus scattered around, yet there has always been girls in front of Gustos.
What is sad is that not only is the Park under renovation, but a lot of the former eating establishments around the Park have been shuddered since the Pandemic. They should of renovated the park earlier during the Pandemic, but hopefully when the Park is done, the surrounding establishments will re-open.
If you go just a few blocks up from Lleras to the Provenza area, there's no residual outfall from the Pandemic with no vacant or closed entities.
Again, the timing of the renovation of Parque Lleras should of been done earlier which has hurt the re-opening of businesses around the Park.
HappyShiva
04-28-22, 14:09
Any one traveling to Medellin between May 9th until 19 please contact me, we can get together and go for beer. Stayin at San Peters, Laureles or Dorado 70.
HappyShiva
04-28-22, 15:33
I prefer Dorado La 70 over Orange Suites. Dorado is cheaper and more centralized where you can walk (no hills) to restaurants and nightlife, a bit diff than Poblado of course. But if you want to be close to Parque Lleras then Orange suite is better.
Some pros:
- Lower cost / professional friendly staff.
- Very safe, 24/7 security and reception, busy street w police presence.
- Close to ATM, money exchange, restaurants, bars, train.
- Girl friendly. (one at a time or 50 k unless you booked double).
- And really really delicious breakfast.I understand that the Hotel Dorado La 70 is chica friendly, but is there any extra chica fees to bring to the room.
.... Also, don't expect any kind of GFE at all. If you are into GFE, you will almost certainly leave disappointed....I have read this on posts by many punters and must say that that has not been my experience. You do get mechanical experiences especially from the very hottest girls. However, I have gotten GFE on many occasions. Some years ago a Hungarian provider even took me for a drive in her car on her day off, all I did was buy her lunch and some drinks like a normal outing with a friend.
I need some experienced Pobladians to chime in, but when I went to Poblado, the park was cordoned off with orange tape, and I didn't see that effecting the action that was going on much if at all. Yeah, it's a little uglier with the park tore up but my wingman who loves the place told me the action was on the surrounding streets and not inside the park, which is very small.
To my limited experience in Poblado, the park is to the mongering game, what the courtyard and fountain are in front of the church to Ground Zero. Focal points but not where most of the action occurs. Correct me if I am wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken, jeje.
Random Gratuitous Fotos.You, sir, are a poster of immense distinction. I have walked through Parque Poblado perhaps hundreds of times over the years and never knew that there were street walkers in the vicinity. One lives and learns. BTW, the girl in the provocative pose on the bed attending to her phone is a girl I would repeat with depending on her face. I am usually not a repeater.
Facebook will take some time and effort, especially for nonpros / semipros. You can find in-depth reports RTFF or reports of distinction. My tip to make a quick list, though, would be to look for a monger with an open list and friend chicas on his list. If you had a membership, I'd have sent a name and / or the name of a popular pro with an open list, but I see you don't. The beginner-friendly way to figure out if a girl is a pro or not on Facebook is to chat with them and see where it goes. Does she bring up money for a cita? Does she ask for money / talk about problems? Does she reply quickly or take forever? Is she happy to talk to you about life / random stuff? Girls that are happy to talk to you about themselves and their families and aren't looking for a payout are more likely nonpro or in that grey semipro category. The more advanced, though not foolproof, way on Facebook is only possible once you have a list of pro chicas (let's say 50 or more). Personally, I look for other mongers in the likes and comments on their photos to get an idea if the girl is a hardened pro or not. If there is a foreign guy that shares a lot of friends with you liking their stuff, then they are a monger. One or two monger friends doesn't necessarily mean anything but if most of the likes are from other mongers then it's more likely she's a hardened pro. I also don't think sexy photos mean that much one way or another. I was convinced one of my all-time favorites was a pro before I met her based on photos and a few likes but she turned out to be a nonpro. It also seems like most paisas have a photo of themselves at least in a bathing suit so somewhat risque photos are normal.
Now the other issue in your post / more generally is the question of what you consider a semi-pro? Is she holding down a regular job and supplementing with dates? Is it that she has a great GFE attitude? Is it that she doesn't have a set price and is happy with what you give her? Or is it that she doesn't consider herself a prepago but needs "help" (I. E. In denial)? The majority of the paid sex I've had with chicas in Medellin would be with girls falling into one or more of those categories but I wouldn't consider all of them "semipros". I've always found the semipro category to have the most grey area and be the hardest to define. Thus, I think it's more helpful to be specific about the qualities you are looking for than to fixate on the semipro label.
Finally, personally, I've generally had sex on the first date with the nonpro and "semi-pro" chicas I've met on Facebook. Having your date at your place is helpful because it removes some of those logistical barriers to sex (I. E. They are already in a private space with you). What's worked for me is offering to cook something for the chica at my apartment. I also offer to take them out for food or drinks, but most agree to come to my place. Inviting them to come to swim in the pool / jacuzzi in a building, and watching Netflix are other ways to get them to come over.
I'm 30 and I've been in Colombia hooking up with 7's for the most part free of charge off tinder and meeting in public but I want to turbo charge and start entering the semi pro game. I am realizing that even free chicas come with price tags like the US.
To contribute to the board I can share how to pull chicas and have plenty of dates from non p4 p. Then I hope someone can help me find the stunners who are semi pro and I can wife up for a bit or at least have a novia experience with. My Spanish is intermediate and I'm in shae and well put together.
I arrived in Poblado and have been matching nonstop on tinder with mostly non pros and pros. Non pros are about 6-7's and want to be taken out. They do not always put out and require work. These girls will drop panties for you on the 2nd or 3rd date, especially if you take them are.
To a reggeaton club. I've made plenty of friends here and I recommend you find gringos who can go on doubles or group dates because they are better.
On the ground, its pretty easy to chat up a waitress and ask for their number. Don't be scared. Same playbook applies.
I have an empty facebook account and ID like some help starting it up with some contacts. I also don't mind hitting up a club or something low key if someone is down. Lastly, what's the most point and click experience I can get in Poblado? Prefer casas but I am willing to go to a club.
I have walked through Parque Poblado perhaps hundreds of times over the years and never knew that there were street walkers in the vicinity.I think the OP was referring to Parque Lleras, not Parque Poblado.
You, sir, are a poster of immense distinction. I have walked through Parque Poblado perhaps hundreds of times over the years and never knew that there were street walkers in the vicinity. One lives and learns. BTW, the girl in the provocative pose on the bed attending to her phone is a girl I would repeat with depending on her face. I am usually not a repeater.That is Purrfekt Piel (PP), no tats, no piercings. The reason I chuckled is her due date is this Tue, she in nine months pregnant and out of commission for the time being. Before I recently returned from MDE, I tagged her pregnant pussy more than any preggo chica in my life, and she was great!
All fotos are of Purrfekt Piel.
The close-up pussy shot is typical for what I call pregnant pussy, fat with pregnancy hormones, beefy, but soft and tight at the same time. Heaven in a hole, jaja.
That's her and Scarlet, my Number Two chica, preening each other after a very fun 3-way.
If you read my Top Ten review, PP is listed as the chica who is "easiest girl to be around" no drama, no pressure. Love taking her out. The word "no" is not in her vocabulary.
You "non-repeater" guys don't know what you are missing. Well, maybe you do. To each is own. To that point, PP and I did not get along at all at first, almost 3 years ago. And she also flaked on me in the beginning more than I would normally every put up with. But something told me to stick with her, and I am glad I did. She owns the mid-ranking positions on my Top Ten List.
I have a trip planned for May and done pages and pages of RTFF at this forum. Have contacted several FB chicas too but am wondering if I should cancel the trip. I am finding it very hard to come across English speaking girls. Me espanol es muy malo! I can understand a bit but not enough to have a non-dirty conversation LOL.
Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look? (besides just generally on FB) Prefer young and beautiful with natural tetas. Even contacts with 2-3 girls will be enough to salvage the trip. I just don't feel like travelling so far and have sex with women without being able to have some small talk at least.
Please PM me if you can help.
Muchas gracias!
Any one traveling to Medellin between May 9th until 19 please contact me, we can get together and go for beer. Stayin at San Peters, Laureles or Dorado 70.The dominant majority of hotels who allow guests charge a fee, which varies widely. The cheapest I ever paid was 5. 000 mil COP and I think the most expensive was 80.000 and I have heard higher in Poblado, another reason I avoid the place.
I know of a couple of nice places that allow guests and don't charge. Don't ask.
If you book the double rate at La Dorado, you get one freebie per cycle, defined as from check-in to check out time. That should hold true at most properties but I have had to negotiate it once or twice.
After that it was somewhere around 50 mil COP per chica, I want to say 52 or maybe 46 or maybe it changed since I was there but close enough.
Depends on who's working the desk, depends on how busy they are, depends if they like you, depends if you tipped the security guy who stands next to the elevators, but I used to tell my girls to walk in like they owned the place and go directly to the elevators, don't make eye contact with the front desk, and do directly to my room. About 75% of them made it up without a charge, especially during the day. Depended on the chica, too. The more timid types folded quicker. The seasoned pros gave an attitude that intimidated the staff. Jaja, Secret never got stopped once because she knows how to look indignant, confident, and a little dangerous. Plus, she didn't give a shit if she was caught and that can be the difference.
There is also a bar on the roof and during the hours the rooftop bar is open the chicas can say they are going to the bar. Paranoid types still worry the front desk will track the girls on camera but in my experience, staff don't watch cameras.
With that said, I would tell my girls to get off the elevator one floor above or below my floor, as an extra precaution.
The worst thing that happens is you get caught and pay the joiner fee. Big deal. I was very open in a fun way with the front desk that I was going to try and sneak as many girls by as I could without paying and we enjoyed the cat and mouse. One guy behind the desk didn't think it was funny, but again, it's not like they are going to throw you out.
Shit, that's the same hotel where I got busted by the four cops brandishing guns in my room and La Dorado still welcomed me back the next morning even though the cops told me to change hotels. Fuck them.
The hotel never seemed to mind how many girls I had up in one cycle or at one time, which can be an issue at some hotels if you are seeing volume.
See, how I can always make a long answer out of anything? But there are a lot of pearls in these oysters, and now you know all my Dorado secrets about getting girls up to the room. When you see the kind of volume I do, those taco tariffs add up. Jajaja.
Know this, the take-home message from my getting busted there and bribing my way out was, it doesn't matter if the chica has a valid ID or if she really is over 18, that does not protect you if you are targeted. Keep that in mind if you like chicas in the 18 to mid-20's range like I do.
Ostee Out.
MaddTraveler
04-28-22, 19:14
I understand that the Hotel Dorado La 70 is chica friendly, but is there any extra chica fees to bring to the room.I did write that, it's usually 50 k for extra girl unless you booked double.
But. Last time I was there, not only I forgot to book double, I got away bringing two girls with no extra fees. The rec said just go ahead, you're good LOL.
Like every place sometimes it's worth building rapport and be friendly with people. I always talk to the receptionists / managers and always tip them. I also always leave a tip on the bed for the cleaning people, so I always smiles, info I need from anyone. There were many late nights when I'm entering they didn't even let me check in the girls, just a signal to go straight to elevator, especially when other people are waiting for help. Not recommended for everyone unless you trust the girls, since having their cedula pic taken or held protects you. But I'm not a typical monger. I even befriend cops, locals, etc. I do that in every country.
A lot of the girls used to congregate inside the park, so you would find them there. However, I always saw better options on the surrounding streets.So the girls who were in the park got displaced by construction but are probably still there and essentially the real action is outside and near the park.
The reason I even posted on a topic about which I had little direct experience was because I saw a well-meaning post from a newbie telling other mongers to stay away from Park Lleras (I don't even know if I am spelling that right) and I thought that was overkill. I would hate to see a guy alter his vacation plans because of that suggestion.
I may come across as self-absorbed and overly prolific here, but really I have my fellow monger's best interests in mind. We all are biased and get misguided at times.
I'll be back in my beloved Medellin soon. So far, so good at the set-ups that are supposedly falling in place, but in Medellin it's better not to plan. I was at the point during my last stay there that I literally did not plan a day ahead for months, I let each day form itself after I woke up, and Medellin did not disappoint.
You'll be fine try downloading an app and learning the basic stuff. I'm down here now and my Spanish is pretty much non existent. Some of the girls know basic English and they don't mind using translate either.
I have a trip planned for May and done pages and pages of RTFF at this forum. Have contacted several FB chicas too but am wondering if I should cancel the trip. I am finding it very hard to come across English speaking girls. Me espanol es muy malo! I can understand a bit but not enough to have a non-dirty conversation LOL.
Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look? (besides just generally on FB) Prefer young and beautiful with natural tetas. Even contacts with 2-3 girls will be enough to salvage the trip. I just don't feel like travelling so far and have sex with women without being able to have some small talk at least.
I have a trip planned for May and done pages and pages of RTFF at this forum. Have contacted several FB chicas too but am wondering if I should cancel the trip. I am finding it very hard to come across English speaking girls. Me espanol es muy malo! I can understand a bit but not enough to have a non-dirty conversation LOL.
Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look? (besides just generally on FB) Prefer young and beautiful with natural tetas. Even contacts with 2-3 girls will be enough to salvage the trip. I just don't feel like travelling so far and have sex with women without being able to have some small talk at least.All us non-Spanish speakers started out the same way, lots of Google Translate, lots of waving arms and sign language, jaja. Sex is the universal language, and money makes it happen. Very few mongers including me are motivated enough to dedicate themselves to learning Spanish before they arrive. Jump in and get both your feet wet like most of did and that just makes it easier for the next time. This is one time when you don't want to defer gratification.
Don't underestimate the value of 3 X 5 cards with Spanish phrases you write on them. Anytime you write a question make sure it can be answered with a simple yes or no. Google Translate has a "save" feature that allows you quickly pull up your favorite phrases. I used to have seven or eight "go to" phrases saved. Practice saying them, and try to remember them before you pull them up each time and you may surprise yourself with how quickly you can get functional for sexual encounters.
English speaking sex workers are too rare to make that a practical choice. Instead concentrate on getting her into a sexual position where language is basically not necessary. I suggest you learn the words for, faster, slower, harder, softer, and you will have a good time, jajajaja. Ostee Out.
A lot of the girls used to congregate inside the park, so you would find them there. However, I always saw better options on the surrounding streets.Walked around Lleras Park today and stopped at the construction trailer and talked with the Construction Superintendent regarding the activities and saw a rendering of what the Park will be like when completed. In essence they will be grading the terrain inside and instead of having as much open ground they will have more walking areas within the park than before, so more people can be inside the park. They are putting in a new drainage system along with a lot of new pavers.
As far as when it will be done, I was told at least six more months, and apparently there was a delay of few weeks but my Spanish wasn't good enough to fully understand what was the cause of delay, it sounded like a utility or something sub-surface needed to be re-routed to install the new sub-surface storm drain system.
So at six to seven months, the earliest would be September or October when it re-opens, but I'm not holding my breath.
Again they should of been doing this project a year ago, as it's going to be a while before the surrounding eateries are re-established and things get back to the way it was prior to the Pandemic.
There used to be a Cuban place on the downhill corner with good Mojitos and great Cuban beans that has recently re-opened as what looks like to now be a Hookah bar.
I have a trip planned for May and done pages and pages of RTFF at this forum. Have contacted several FB chicas too but am wondering if I should cancel the trip. I am finding it very hard to come across English speaking girls. Me espanol es muy malo! I can understand a bit but not enough to have a non-dirty conversation LOL.
Anyone have a referral / lead for me on an English-Speaking puta in Medellin? Or where to look? (besides just generally on FB) Prefer young and beautiful with natural tetas. Even contacts with 2-3 girls will be enough to salvage the trip. I just don't feel like travelling so far and have sex with women without being able to have some small talk at least.
Please PM me if you can help.
Muchas gracias!I wouldn't let your lack of Spanish deter you from coming.
Lots of guys come down here not speaking Spanish and seem to survive, albeit it can be a challenge.
If your going to casa's and bars with girls not a problem as it's going to be a short time encounter so talking won't really matter.
And you should be able to do okay with the Fayboo girls using a translator.
Lots of advice here, especially by JB2 as to the things to say, and ask, and get totally clarified with the Fayboo girls if that is how you plan to monger.
The reality is very few people speak English in Colombia, and you might encounter some that speak English in Lleras, or other venues, but typically how it's handled here by the non-Spanish speaking mongers is that they use a translator on a phone.
I've seen this many times, and albeit there can be misunderstandings, most guys seem to do okay.
And unless you speak Spanish, small talk with these girls can be a waste of time, and won't last long so I wouldn't let this drive your decision as to whether or not to come.
RiceRocket99
04-28-22, 21:59
I recently reactivated my FB account and updated some info. It's been a few years since I last used it as my main chica source. I added a bunch of new girls and it seems to me that the talent is more or less the same from before. I will have to dive into the FB pool soon and get my feet wet again.
Anyways, by accident I came across a few FB groups aptly named 'Medellin Expat & Tourist Info', 'Expats in Colombia', and 'GringoPaisas. ' I joined them just out of curiosity. And goddamn, I didn't realize everybody and their mama and baby mama have been visiting, returning, and living in Medellin the past few years and more are coming! I find many of the posts pretty entertaining and a bit refreshing to read about Medellin from the perspective of the non-mongering crowd. Also, there have been some posts about the recent rise in the robbing and drugging of gringos from Tinder girls. As long as these newbies stay and remain in the Poblado, Laureles, and Envigado areas, I'm all for it. The northern suburb doesn't seem to be discussed much and I'd like to keep it that way. One more thing, the peso is about to cross the 4,000 mark! Legoooooo hehe.
I did write that, it's usually 50 k for extra girl unless you booked double.
But. Last time I was there, not only I forgot to book double, I got away bringing two girls with no extra fees. The rec said just go ahead, you're good LOL.
Like every place sometimes it's worth building rapport and be friendly with people. I always talk to the receptionists / managers and always tip them. I also always leave a tip on the bed for the cleaning people, so I always smiles, info I need from anyone. There were many late nights when I'm entering they didn't even let me check in the girls, just a signal to go straight to elevator, especially when other people are waiting for help. Not recommended for everyone unless you trust the girls, since having their cedula pic taken or held protects you. But I'm not a typical monger. I even befriend cops, locals, etc. I do that in every country.What tip amount do you usually tip reception / managers?
MarquisdeSade1
04-28-22, 23:45
This FKK discussion is pretty interesting, it really demonstrates the polar opposites of mongers and what they look for.
For any monger who hasn't visited a FKK, I do strongly recommend the trip at least once. You pay an entry fee for full day and, in the better houses such as Golden Time, you get free roam when it comes to the food and alcohol (local beer only, but included in the price). And you are in the company of naked women the whole day, with access to jaccuzi, sauna and even porn cinema.
If that's what you look for in an experience, great. But the parties are largely mechanical. Yes, the women are stunning. I'd say approximately 90% are from Romania, so don't come expecting a harem of blonde haired, blue-eyed beauties. Also, don't expect any kind of GFE at all. If you are into GFE, you will almost certainly leave disappointed. But it is not impossible. Lots of locals visit on a weekly basis, so you are up against strong, local, regular competition.
But it is still quite an experience. For info, notable houses are Golden Time (daytime), Living Room, Oase, Sharks, Acapulco, and my personal favourite Babylon in Elsdorf. They were fun at the time, but there were also lots of frustrating experiences. As I get older, I place more value on GFE. But if you are still in a PSE phase, there's probably nowhere better.I believe GT always requires clothing / bikini etc.
Sharks and Oase for full nudity and yes its incredible.
It was just me one day in the pool with about 10 smoking 18 yo all nude playing with a beach ball in Oase.
How I wish I could fuck 100 putas in 1 day LOL.
Ahh but instead I just stayed 50 days LOL for my 50th bday.
The sex can be spa like "boring" but everything in Deutschland is superior.
It just took some patience, I had some awesome PSE BBFS include anal outdoor, anything is possible if you have any skills.
GT was magical, fucking on the bed in the garden during the serene afternoon.
Some truly mind blowing once in a lifetime experiences.
Many don't like the Romanians, but if you know how to find the good ones.
Some are the kindest most gentle feminine little putas on the planet (no ink, implants, babies or attitude).
GT on a summer weekday afternoon can be the closest we will ever see to heaven on earth!!
DontSayMuch
04-29-22, 01:57
Hello board,
I'm thinking of going to Medellin in the next six months but am having a little problem with this forum's layout and finding questions. I'll ask some questions here and if there's a post or thread this is answered then if you could let me know where that is I'd really appreciate it.
I'll try not to ask too many questions at once and will break it up.
I'm looking to stay at a hotel / complex that has alright security, is guest friendly (multiple and no questions asked), and is near a good place to monger. For under $100 ideally.
One place mentioned was Poblado at Haven Suites.
Thanks for any responses, I appreciate it.
DSM.
My earlier post on 4/28/22 about guest fees.
The cycle the hotel uses to track you guest numbers is from check-out time to check-in time. Why is this important? For example, a morning wood visit that ends by 10 AM with check-out being at 1 PM, followed by an afternoon visit around 4 PM would be counted as one visit per cycle even though they both occurred on the same day. If you booked the double rate both would be free.
Conversely, after that same 4 PM visit, any chica who arrives before the 1 PM check-out time the next day, you are going to pay for because now you have seen two chicas during the same cycle.
If you are paying attention, then you should be wondering about the chicas you bang in between check-out and check-in times. Yes, that can get a little murky. This will also be the time when the relationships you have established with the hotel staff bubble up to the surface.
If you were a decent customer who (gasp) even tipped on occasion, then you can probably count this chica in the way that favors you the most. If you've been an Ugly American, then count on the hotel tallying the chica against you, if there's even a difference.
Also, I wrote 5. 000 mil COP for an example of the cheapest joiner fee I had seen, which should have been either 5.000 or 5 mil but not both which is redundant, and equal to $1.25 USD.
HappyShiva
04-29-22, 03:23
Did anyone hear about protests in Colombia? I have heard that they are celebrating one year anniversary of past protests and have multiple traffic jams, street closures. Last may, I was in Medellin and Bogota during protests and things were dangerous for foreigners. I am planning to visit in next two weeks, a feed back will be really helpful.
Mr Enternational
04-29-22, 04:52
Did anyone hear about protests in Colombia? I have heard that they are celebrating one year anniversary of past protests and have multiple traffic jams, street closures. Last may, I was in Medellin and Bogota during protests and things were dangerous for foreigners. I am planning to visit in next two weeks, a feed back will be really helpful.Don't know about them being dangerous to foreigners, but here in Bogota they were covering up the facades of the government buildings in expectation of the protests today. There were already a couple of buildings with splashes of green and red paint I guess from previous protests. The presidential election is 1 month away. The chick that I am with said the protesting these days is because the president is assisting the FARC.
Did anyone hear about protests in Colombia? I have heard that they are celebrating one year anniversary of past protests and have multiple traffic jams, street closures.As someone who was nearly caught up in a protest today, here's my take. I wouldn't put too much worry into it, almost treat it like really bad weather. There's a small chance you'll get caught in it but if you just duck out of the way it'll pass and you'll only be mildly inconvenienced.
As I understand it, there are a protests going on in part due to the upcoming elections. In talking with someone who attended many of the protests, it was a fair number of younger people, with street vendors selling snacks and alcohol marching along too. Add in excessive amounts of alcohol and anything can happen. There are rumored to be instigators trying to start violence. Supposedly marchers are trying to quell any violence that might pop up.
Take it as you will.
If you're really concerned, you can wait until after the elections, but I wouldn't worry.
MarquisdeSade1
04-29-22, 05:06
I was in Germany about four years ago and went to the FKK in Berlin, I forget the name, I'm sure you know it, and I paid something like 80 Euros for admission which didn't include partaking in the women. Quite a different experience for me as I was given a locker, sandals, and a robe in which to roam around in.
I walked out after about an hour not wanting to partake.
Just to organized and business like for my tastes and had decided to try an FKK so I could cross it off my mongering list.
I can see the allure of the FKK's for some, imagine as though your Hugh Hefner walking around in a robe in the Playboy Mansion with all those available women.I would never expect to hear this from you, where's your mongering work ethic? I didn't like it either at 1st, I read lots of bad advise, well in any case I persevered and it was worth it, so much so.
After 50 days, I flew back to Chicago and was going insane from withdrawal so after 2 weeks I flew right back for another month.
I suggest you give it another shot and stick with the western half of Deutschland, that's where its really at, and whatever you do make sure you hit it.
When everyone is walking around naked and in the pool outside, June July Aug and avoid Berlin.
And avoid winter no matter what.
Somewhere on this ever-widening board (do we really need so many categories for one city? Jajaja) I just posted about not over-planning in MDE, plans change, etc. Well my number one motivator for my rapid return, Nymphette tells me she got kicked out of Hotel Puta Central for non-payment. She asked me several times to send her money and I refused. One way I can tell she's on the fresh side of P4 P is that she told me that she did not want to go down to Ground Zero and make money the "ugly" way. Two years ago that would've gotten some money out of me but not now.
When I asked her how can she get a new hotel if she didn't have money for the old hotel she said she was too far behind on the old hotel bill to catch-up. Believable, and I have heard that story many times. A lot of these chicas float between cheap hotels and boarding rooms and stretch out their stays as long as they can before they get kicked out for non-payment, then wash, rinse, repeat.
Anywho, she still sounds very keen on getting together and maybe the silver lining is I would have run into too many other chicas I already knew at Hotel Puta Central, so a fresh start is not so bad. Plus, I could still try to finagle my way back in to Hotel Puta but that's probably not a good idea without an invite. I am a proponent of as much honesty as possible, and Nymphette already asked me if I would see her and only her this upcoming visit. Not bloodly likely, but I promised to see her first.
This is one example where the List comes in handy. I reminded her of her position on my List, and that I would definitely be seeing other girls on the List especially those above her, and that she made it on the List faster than anyone I can remember in recent history. Believe it or not, this made her happy and kept the peace.
I am not so delusional to believe it's love that motivates her, although I am sure she likes me more than the average monger. Any P4P chica, broaden that to just about any chica in MDE, once you have shown anything more than a passing interest in them, they believe every peso you spend on anyone else should be going into her pockets, not someone else's. They will give you the feeling it's about love, and there certainly can be some attraction going on or developing at the same time. Mainly, they can't stand the thought of you spending even one peso on another chica. I guess that's one reason guys don't repeat on girls.
I will keep you guys posted because I do believe there is value to some of this info, it's fun, and I bet the situation changes into something not even on my radar by the time I get there, which is why I often say, Keep On Keepin' On.
Random Gratuitous Fotos. Someone mentioned protests, that foto was from one year ago, today. Last foto, Purrfekt Piel again, pre-pregnant state. Dayumm that chica has a hot body and great skills. I thought about marrying her once or twice, for a total of two seconds. Jajajajaa, not yet. I still have a lot of mongering to get out of my system. I will never stop, it is just a matter of degree and who can put up with me.
SexoOMyMind
04-29-22, 06:59
Hello HappyShiva.
I will be landing on the 11th afternoon. Have not booked a hotel yet.
Did you pick a hotel yet?
Any one traveling to Medellin between May 9th until 19 please contact me, we can get together and go for beer. Stayin at San Peters, Laureles or Dorado 70.
MaddTraveler
04-29-22, 08:44
What tip amount do you usually tip reception / managers?Oh wow man what a great question!
DonCarlos1234
04-29-22, 11:34
TThe worst thing that happens is you get caught and pay the joiner fee. Big deal. I was very open in a fun way with the front desk that I was going to try and sneak as many girls by as I could without paying and we enjoyed the cat and mouse. One guy behind the desk didn't think it was funny, but again, it's not like they are going to throw you out.
Shit, that's the same hotel where I got busted by the four cops brandishing guns in my room and La Dorado still welcomed me back the next morning even though the cops told me to change hotels. Fuck them.
Ostee Out.But the balcony from the top floor was terrific. I might have been the only gringo that night. Old school Medellin politicians everywhere.
Did anyone hear about protests in Colombia? I have heard that they are celebrating one year anniversary of past protests and have multiple traffic jams, street closures. Last may, I was in Medellin and Bogota during protests and things were dangerous for foreigners. I am planning to visit in next two weeks, a feed back will be really helpful.I wouldn't sweat this, the protests compared to last year have been very low key.
I arrived in Medellin just before midnight Tuesday and my #1 was waiting with her sister to drive us back to Medellin. By the time we got to her house and settled in it was 1 am. After I showered we headed to bed and after some "I'm happy to see you" sex and the required clean up we went to sleep.
The following morning, after correcting the confusion about when her sister was going to take us to the airport, while she was getting ready, I sat down to wait. That's when one of her cats decided I was his new best friend. Damn thing apparently preferred being dirty to getting hairballs. Downright nasty smelling cat.
Although traffic was bad and her sister was fashionably late, we made it with plenty of time to spare. Today is our last full day at the beach and we're waiting for a tour, by boat, up one of the rivers. Tomorrow afternoon we'll be back in Medellin. It's been a good trip, although I'm worn out from yesterday's hike. However, I'm not too tired to enjoy the best part of this trip.
ProfessorOak
04-29-22, 17:05
Currently in MDE and I'm with group of about 9, having a hard time finding places to accommodate all of us. We went to Phase II last night any other recommendations or similar?
I am planning my first mongering trip. Is July 4th weekend a good time to travel to Colombia? Tickets and hotels are slightly more expensive, but nothing too bad.
IDownright nasty smelling cat.This is as good as anytime to mention something I haven't seen discussed here in a while. These Medellin chicas have the cleanest pussies on the planet. They are obsessed with it. Of course there are always exceptions to any generalization, but in this case not many. In all my encounters in Colombia, one time, once, after we started sex, I asked a girl to jump in the shower because she was borderline too funky. She had a fulltime sweatshop sort of job and came to see me after work. She didn't have a gross, fishy or ill smell, just a little too sweaty. She took zero offense to a quick French Douche which is when they jump in the shower mainly just to wash their pussy, see first foto.
I heard the Romanians were just as clean but I don't have any direct experience. These girls are waaaaay cleaner than the average girlfriend sex I would have back in the USA.
I can't guess a number, but the majority of P4 P girls will want to take a quick "ducha" or shower before sex. Have you ever thought a chica was wasting your time in the shower to chew up the clock? They are! At least some have told me they will do that if for whatever reason they decide to minimize the skin to skin time with you, the mongerer. I am not saying it's a conspiracy but stand up for your rights! I also don't let them lock the bathroom door and if I want to watch them in the shower, I watch, or more.
All fotos are bathroom shots. The "leg up" is the classic "French Douche". The two blowjobs you may recall were in my dentist's office bathroom at the Mayorca Mall, a few minutes apart. The chicas were Numbero Dos Scarlet and Numero Tres Soft Swirl. Jajaja, they loved and did not hesitate. Fourth foto is Number One Catgirl and her novia, Cricket at The Nutti. Then the next two fotos are Catgirl grooming our dog in La Dorado's bathroom, jaja. The Vennie flipping the bird is the one who set me up for the sting with the cops at La Dorado. I guess she was trying to tell me something, basically, "You're fucked"! Jajajajaaa.
I made a new FB page and a fellow member gave me a couple of links to FB pages with P4P girls on them, but when I try to add them as friends or message them FB tells me I don't know them and won't let me add or contact them. Anyone have any advice on how to do this that they would like to share?
I would never expect to hear this from you, where's your mongering work ethic? I didn't like it either at 1st, I read lots of bad advise, well in any case I persevered and it was worth it, so much so.
After 50 days, I flew back to Chicago and was going insane from withdrawal so after 2 weeks I flew right back for another month.
I suggest you give it another shot and stick with the western half of Deutschland, that's where its really at, and whatever you do make sure you hit it.
When everyone is walking around naked and in the pool outside, June July Aug and avoid Berlin.
And avoid winter no matter what.Honestly I won't be giving an FKK a second shot, just not my cup of tea.
And my "mongering work ethic" was alive and well in Berlin, I did some have some good experiences at two small brothels.
As far as Europe in winter, no way Jose.
Although I won't be going back to an FKK, anyone who happens to be in Germany should go to a FKK just to experience it.
I arrived in Medellin just before midnight Tuesday and my #1 was waiting with her sister to drive us back to Medellin. By the time we got to her house and settled in it was 1 am. After I showered we headed to bed and after some "I'm happy to see you" sex and the required clean up we went to sleep.
The following morning, after correcting the confusion about when her sister was going to take us to the airport, while she was getting ready, I sat down to wait. That's when one of her cats decided I was his new best friend. Damn thing apparently preferred being dirty to getting hairballs. Downright nasty smelling cat.
Although traffic was bad and her sister was fashionably late, we made it with plenty of time to spare. Today is our last full day at the beach and we're waiting for a tour, by boat, up one of the rivers. Tomorrow afternoon we'll be back in Medellin. It's been a good trip, although I'm worn out from yesterday's hike. However, I'm not too tired to enjoy the best part of this trip.Which beach are you at?
Which beach are you at?Playa El Almejal. I'll be giving a full report in Other Areas once I'm back in Medellin. There's a place a 5 minute walk from my cabin which offers surfing lessons and rents boards. The waves aren't big, but they have a nice regular break to them.
MaddTraveler
04-30-22, 00:20
I am planning my first mongering trip. Is July 4th weekend a good time to travel to Colombia? Tickets and hotels are slightly more expensive, but nothing too bad.Medellin Colombia is full man. Lately I notice lots and lots of new members joining, like seriously never seen so many newb questions LOL. Damn is the Matrix getting worse and worse?
So Medellin is full at capacity for now, go to the DR instead LOL. Just kidding LMAO. The answer is everyday is a good day to go to Colombia bro. Like for real! My boy went this week and I couldn't tag along so I'm actually booking for 1st week of July as well 9-10 days.
It depends how dirty you want to get, but Ejecutiva in El Centro could seat all of you, La Isla as well.
Currently in MDE and I'm with group of about 9, having a hard time finding places to accommodate all of us. We went to Phase II last night any other recommendations or similar?
Lucky Nuts
04-30-22, 02:52
Currently in MDE and I'm with group of about 9, having a hard time finding places to accommodate all of us. We went to Phase II last night any other recommendations or similar?I'd suggest Grille Nueva in el centro. It's across the street on the north side of Plaza Botero. Usually has some hot young chicas de Venezuela in there. Or as Chicago85 suggested Club La Isla if you want to go high end meaning very expensive drinks and paying like 320 mil pesos for 45 minutes of covered everything sex
I will write a full report of this trips activities but wanted to report on one particular experience that just happened. It has been said many times before, there are many different ways to monger. Some like the bargain basement of el centro, some like searching FB, seeking, tinder or hitting the casas or strip clubs. I stick to mostly Seeking and my parameters are all natural, if a chica has fake tits, ass, lips or tattoos it's a huge turn off. I look for the girl next door wholesome type of beauty.
This trip I found a beautiful all-natural chica on seeking who checked all the boxes! Spoke English, perfect body (very active lifestyle) university student who also works at a bank and started 2 online businesses. I hit the jackpot again, another unicorn! We quickly exchange pleasantries on the site and switch over to WhatsApp. I invite her out for dinner and drinks and say if we like each other, we can head back to my hotel after. Then she drops a bomb shell and says "if you want me to go to your hotel it will be 1,500 MIL! Yes, you read that right 1,500,000 pesos! I said whoa that's too much nobody would ever pay that much! I countered at 500 MIL. She just replied "no". I countered again with the best I can do is 700 MIL. She responded back with "no". I said no one is going to pay that price if you change your mind reach out to me.
I proceeded to go through my seeking pipeline, one or two dates a day, a lot of adventures that I will discuss in my next post. A week goes by and I was still thinking of my unicorn, couldn't believe she rejected my 700 offer and didn't text me back after the failed negotiations. I decided to try again, I sent her a text that I was upping my offer to 1,000 MIL. She said she was excited to meet me and would meet for dinner, but her tuition is very high, and she has a few other bills so she can only go for 1,500 MIL. I'm just laughing to myself a week later and she is still holding firm.
I capitulate and say ok, you win, here is the plan. I am going to pay your price of 1,500,000 pesos. I want you to spend the night and I want a complete girlfriend experience with everything natural. I want as many rounds as I can go and I don't want to hear that you are tired. Also, I want you to wake me up in the morning and give me a BJ before you leave. She said ok that sounds perfect but I need to see recent test results for natural. Told her not a problem, I have all my test. (I always get the Labcorp 10 panel test a few days before I arrive and again 2 weeks after I get back home). We set the meeting for Thursday night.
We meet at Nacionsushi, she is looking fantastic, we have a nice dinner, great convo lots of laughs, chemistry is strong. We head back to the Marriott (great hotel but the prices are getting out of control). As soon as we get into the room we start going at it, so much built up tension we are kissing and ripping each other's clothes off. She stops the action and ask to see my test results, I pull them up and show her. She reads everything for a few minutes and I'm like are you ok, any questions? She said perfect, starts kissing me again.
We move to the couch, and she gets on her knees and starts a slow BBBJ with the perfect ratio of mouth, tongue and hand movements. She looks up at me with those brown eyes and ask if it feels ok, I tell her she is doing amazing. It was feeling too good, and I had to stop her before I popped early. I then proceeded to lick every inch of her body. Her body was perfect, great tits and ass. After the visual and finger test of her love box which had a perfect smell, I spent a lot of time down there licking, fingering and licking some more until she had her first orgasm. I give her a minute to enjoy her high before we start kissing and I get in missionary and slip it in natural. I go for about 5 minutes before its too much and I tell her I'm about to cum and she proceeds to wrap her legs around me and grab my ass and pull me deeper inside of her. Her reaction was so hot and unexpected, I blow deep deep inside of her the contractions feel like a wave of euphoria. We continue to embrace I stay inside of her for another few minutes, it is amazing, it felt like I was in a cloud.
We take a long hot shower and she drops again to her knees and gives me another wonderful BBBJ. It's taking me a while to recover from round 1 so I stop her and we continue to soap each other up and kiss and hug. Back to the bed for some Netflix and small talk. Once I recovered I began to lick her body again this time I head to her beautiful ass, licking and getting her ready for fun. After some foreplay I grab my lube and make sure everything is lubed up before slowly inserting her ass. She is making this sexy breathing noise and the whole situation gets me ready to burst so I stop and do self-imposed edging until I can't hold it any more and blow inside of her ass. We head back to the shower and then back to the bed before passing out with the tv and lights still on. I wake up in the middle of the night to turn everything off and look over at her beautiful face and just smile myself back to sleep.
In the morning, true to her word my unicorn woke up and started giving me a BBBJ while I was still half asleep. I started to feel a deep connection to her like damn I'm in love, haha! I pulled her up on top of me and slowly slid in. Nice slow movements up and down, she then put her hands on my chest and started to control the rhythm before going faster and faster before we both couldn't take it anymore and released together, another blast of my soldiers deep inside her. Another shower and then she got dressed for work. I paid the agreed upon charge. We kissed and hugged goodbye and I said I would see her soon.
Final thoughts. She was worth every single peso, I will see her again, can't make her a regular until she drops the price, but I need that experience again. One of the best experiences I have had in all my trips to Colombia.
Happy Hunting.
MidwestMan91
04-30-22, 14:40
I am planning my first mongering trip. Is July 4th weekend a good time to travel to Colombia? Tickets and hotels are slightly more expensive, but nothing too bad.I would check if there are any Colombian holidays. I went during a primary voting week and the weekend was dry (No alcohol sales) and there were significantly less ladies.
BootyBandit84
04-30-22, 19:14
I capitulate and say ok, you win, here is the plan. I am going to pay your price of 1,500,000 pesos. I want you to spend the night and I want a complete girlfriend experience with everything natural. I want as many rounds as I can go and I don't want to hear that you are tired. Also, I want you to wake me up in the morning and give me a BJ before you leave. She said ok that sounds perfect but I need to see recent test results for natural. Told her not a problem, I have all my test. (I always get the Labcorp 10 panel test a few days before I arrive and again 2 weeks after I get back home). We set the meeting for Thursday night.
.Hey man, glad you had a great time. And while you my get a bunch of guys whining about you paying too much or you are going to ruin everything and blablabla. Don't even worry about it, you do you. If you were satisfied with her service and ok with what you paid for it than that's all that matters.
I usually pay a little more than the average because I can and don't like to haggle over a few dollars. Believe me I have spent a lot more to get a lot less that what you got. And finding an all natural gem in Colombia is harder than you might think. It feels like just about every girl has if not some kind a ink on her, or they have something done something to themselves. Its not really a big deal to me but if natural is a must for you than its definitely more work to find a gem like the one you found. Anyway great report and keep the fun going!
I am planning my first mongering trip. Is July 4th weekend a good time to travel to Colombia? Tickets and hotels are slightly more expensive, but nothing too bad.Probably the only month not to visit MDE due to high expenses is during the month of August. It is when the Feria de las Flores takes center stage.
Final thoughts. She was worth every single peso, I will see her again, can't make her a regular until she drops the price, but I need that experience again. One of the best experiences I have had in all my trips to Colombia.
Happy Hunting.She stuck to her guns and I respect that too. The hallmark of a good deal is when both parties are happy, and sounds like you both were very much so.
There will always be guys here who don't understand that payment has nothing to do with setting the price in any free market. Price is set by supply & demand, so you, not anyone, is "hurting" the scene in Medellin by whatever you pay. Payment and price are two separate concepts. So any criticism levied in your direction from that stance is coming from ignorance, and to be ignored.
She sounded exceptional and worth the extra money. Another pitfall guys do is they quickly forget what they would be paying for the same experience back here in Pussy Prison otherwise known as the USA. These same guys focus on what the money is worth to the chica instead of what it is worth to themselves. Why should anyone care what the amount you pay is worth to the chica? That is 100% irrelevant unless that person is some kind of judgmental control freak who likes to impose values and culture on other people. The only standard that matters is fair market value and you can layer onto that what the amount feels intrinsically worth to you, not the chica. Then you can go over or under that amount depending on the situation. You get it, I can tell.
Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if someday you catch her at a moment of need when she does indeed drop her price.
Keep on Keepin' On!
Random Gratuitous Fotos. I have my reservations for my return flight in 2 weeks. The fotos of the sweeper and the building, top floor on the right, is Scarlet's apartment where at this point, I also hope to be staying and filling with chicas. Her rent for a 4 BR 1 be apartment in a nice "middle class" barrio of Medellin is less than $150 per month and she has been there since she was a small child.
AmorPorFavor
04-30-22, 23:13
I will write a full report of this trips activities but wanted to report on one particular experience that just happened. It has been said many times before, there are many different ways to monger. Some like the bargain basement of el centro, some like searching FB, seeking, tinder or hitting the casas or strip clubs. I stick to mostly Seeking and my parameters are all natural, if a chica has fake tits, ass, lips or tattoos it's a huge turn off. I look for the girl next door wholesome type of beauty.
This trip I found a beautiful all-natural chica on seeking who checked all the boxes! Spoke English, perfect body (very active lifestyle) university student who also works at a bank and started 2 online businesses. I hit the jackpot again, another unicorn! We quickly exchange pleasantries on the site and switch over to WhatsApp. I invite her out for dinner and drinks and say if we like each other, we can head back to my hotel after. Then she drops a bomb shell and says "if you want me to go to your hotel it will be 1,500 MIL! Yes, you read that right 1,500,000 pesos! I said whoa that's too much nobody would ever pay that much! I countered at 500 MIL. She just replied "no". I countered again with the best I can do is 700 MIL. She responded back with "no". I said no one is going to pay that price if you change your mind reach out to me.
I proceeded to go through my seeking pipeline, one or two dates a day, a lot of adventures that I will discuss in my next post. A week goes by and I was still thinking of my unicorn, couldn't believe she rejected my 700 offer and didn't text me back after the failed negotiations. I decided to try again, I sent her a text that I was upping my offer to 1,000 MIL. She said she was excited to meet me and would meet for dinner, but her tuition is very high, and she has a few other bills so she can only go for 1,500 MIL. I'm just laughing to myself a week later and she is still holding firm.
I capitulate and say ok, you win, here is the plan. I am going to pay your price of 1,500,000 pesos. I want you to spend the night and I want a complete girlfriend experience with everything natural. I want as many rounds as I can go and I don't want to hear that you are tired. Also, I want you to wake me up in the morning and give me a BJ before you leave. She said ok that sounds perfect but I need to see recent test results for natural. Told her not a problem, I have all my test. (I always get the Labcorp 10 panel test a few days before I arrive and again 2 weeks after I get back home). We set the meeting for Thursday night.
We meet at Nacionsushi, she is looking fantastic, we have a nice dinner, great convo lots of laughs, chemistry is strong. We head back to the Marriott (great hotel but the prices are getting out of control). As soon as we get into the room we start going at it, so much built up tension we are kissing and ripping each other's clothes off. She stops the action and ask to see my test results, I pull them up and show her. She reads everything for a few minutes and I'm like are you ok, any questions? She said perfect, starts kissing me again.
We move to the couch, and she gets on her knees and starts a slow BBBJ with the perfect ratio of mouth, tongue and hand movements. She looks up at me with those brown eyes and ask if it feels ok, I tell her she is doing amazing. It was feeling too good, and I had to stop her before I popped early. I then proceeded to lick every inch of her body. Her body was perfect, great tits and ass. After the visual and finger test of her love box which had a perfect smell, I spent a lot of time down there licking, fingering and licking some more until she had her first orgasm. I give her a minute to enjoy her high before we start kissing and I get in missionary and slip it in natural. I go for about 5 minutes before its too much and I tell her I'm about to cum and she proceeds to wrap her legs around me and grab my ass and pull me deeper inside of her. Her reaction was so hot and unexpected, I blow deep deep inside of her the contractions feel like a wave of euphoria. We continue to embrace I stay inside of her for another few minutes, it is amazing, it felt like I was in a cloud.
We take a long hot shower and she drops again to her knees and gives me another wonderful BBBJ. It's taking me a while to recover from round 1 so I stop her and we continue to soap each other up and kiss and hug. Back to the bed for some Netflix and small talk. Once I recovered I began to lick her body again this time I head to her beautiful ass, licking and getting her ready for fun. After some foreplay I grab my lube and make sure everything is lubed up before slowly inserting her ass. She is making this sexy breathing noise and the whole situation gets me ready to burst so I stop and do self-imposed edging until I can't hold it any more and blow inside of her ass. We head back to the shower and then back to the bed before passing out with the tv and lights still on. I wake up in the middle of the night to turn everything off and look over at her beautiful face and just smile myself back to sleep.
In the morning, true to her word my unicorn woke up and started giving me a BBBJ while I was still half asleep. I started to feel a deep connection to her like damn I'm in love, haha! I pulled her up on top of me and slowly slid in. Nice slow movements up and down, she then put her hands on my chest and started to control the rhythm before going faster and faster before we both couldn't take it anymore and released together, another blast of my soldiers deep inside her. Another shower and then she got dressed for work. I paid the agreed upon charge. We kissed and hugged goodbye and I said I would see her soon.
Final thoughts. She was worth every single peso, I will see her again, can't make her a regular until she drops the price, but I need that experience again. One of the best experiences I have had in all my trips to Colombia.
Happy Hunting.That sounds awesome. Well worth the price if she is a 10. I have had a few incredible nights with SA girls in Latin America. Semi pros are the bomb. What's the deal on bringing girls into the Marriott?
I am planning my first mongering trip. Is July 4th weekend a good time to travel to Colombia? Tickets and hotels are slightly more expensive, but nothing too bad.July fourth is a North American holiday and you probably will not hear a word about it while in Medellin. I would be surprised if anything was more expensive in MDE because of July Fourth, I suppose it's possible as a reflection of available holiday travel time from the USA. July Fourth is on a Monday this year which makes it a natural long weekend, but I dunno, a natural time to visit MDE from the USA?
I believe GT always requires clothing / bikini etc.
Sharks and Oase for full nudity and yes its incredible.
It was just me one day in the pool with about 10 smoking 18 yo all nude playing with a beach ball in Oase.
How I wish I could fuck 100 putas in 1 day LOL.
Ahh but instead I just stayed 50 days LOL for my 50th bday.
The sex can be spa like "boring" but everything in Deutschland is superior.
It just took some patience, I had some awesome PSE BBFS include anal outdoor, anything is possible if you have any skills.
GT was magical, fucking on the bed in the garden during the serene afternoon.
Some truly mind blowing once in a lifetime experiences.
Many don't like the Romanians, but if you know how to find the good ones.
Some are the kindest most gentle feminine little putas on the planet (no ink, implants, babies or attitude).
GT on a summer weekday afternoon can be the closest we will ever see to heaven on earth!!This I agree with, at least from the experiences I have had. GT, PHG, and The Palace in Frankfurt have provided me undoubtedly some of the best experiences of my life. It's been five years. I could arrive in the morning and stay until they close. Beer, food, ladies, comfort, relaxing, spa amenities. Unreal experience and I had some excellent girls.
First time logging in for a while. Bringing a friend and I don't want to trudge to every casa in Centro. I would prefer the best four or five dependables. Can you please give me an update or recommendations on which casas are the best at the moment? I can't even remember which casas in centro were good two years ago.
I know one in Laureles as well as Energy. I have heard Belen has a few but I do not know names or address. I remember searching google for massage parlor in Poblado and there were a couple of locations but the names had not been discussed before on the forum. I'm looking on google and see Zen, Tantra, even Spa Lleras (Any information would be appreciated and feel free to PM.
Is the trip to Loutron's worth consideration? Well, obviously worth consideration. But in your opinion is it likely to be disappointing or would we expect the girls to be at another level, even if overpriced? I just want to be able to let my buddy experience something exceptional and sometimes the standard MPs are just okay, nothing to write home about. Thinking about La Isla one night.
EDIT: Found the map and chica list. That will help.
I will read the board when I have more time. Thanks in advance.
DonMedellin
05-01-22, 17:35
First time logging in for a while. Bringing a friend and I don't want to trudge to every casa in Centro. I would prefer the best four or five dependables. Can you please give me an update or recommendations on which casas are the best at the moment? I can't even remember which casas in centro were good two years ago.
I know one in Laureles as well as Energy. I have heard Belen has a few but I do not know names or address. I remember searching google for massage parlor in Poblado and there were a couple of locations but the names had not been discussed before on the forum. I'm looking on google and see Zen, Tantra, even Spa Lleras (Any information would be appreciated and feel free to PM.
Is the trip to Loutron's worth consideration? Well, obviously worth consideration. But in your opinion is it likely to be disappointing or would we expect the girls to be at another level, even if overpriced? I just want to be able to let my buddy experience something exceptional and sometimes the standard MPs are just okay, nothing to write home about. Thinking about La Isla one night..In Laureles, I would recommend Fantasias Energy. The facility is clean, well maintained. There are always at least 10 girls, with a variety of body types, ages, and ethnicities. I like how they all wear sexy lingerie and stripe down in front of you during the parade. Especially that they take their time to show you their bodies, turn around so you can see them in 360. It's one of the sexist things a man in Medellin can do. Tantra is where I would go on a Sunday as they are one of the few places that open on Sundays.
In Centro, my go to place is New Life. 20 girls of all kinds, a manager who speaks English and pays after according to the time spent. I know a girl lives about 10 blocks east of New Life, and every time I see her, I stop in NL just to watch the parade. It does costs 4 k cop if you don't pick one to session, but for $1 I think it's money well spent.
Loutron is definitely a guarantee of having 8's or 9's to choose from, so if money is not a consideration and you want a pretty face, a trip to Loutron will satisfy your desires.
AmorPorFavor
05-01-22, 17:51
This I agree with, at least from the experiences I have had. GT, PHG, and The Palace in Frankfurt have provided me undoubtedly some of the best experiences of my life. It's been five years. I could arrive in the morning and stay until they close. Beer, food, ladies, comfort, relaxing, spa amenities. Unreal experience and I had some excellent girls.Which ones are GT and PHG? Did you like Sharks?
NeilGeorge
05-01-22, 18:04
I know one in Laureles as well as Energy. I have heard Belen has a few but I do not know names or address. I remember searching google for massage parlor in Poblado and there were a couple of locations but the names had not been discussed before on the forum. I'm looking on google and see Zen, Tantra, even Spa Lleras (Any information would be appreciated and feel free to PM.
Is the trip to Loutron's worth consideration? Well, obviously worth consideration. But in your opinion is it likely to be disappointing or would we expect the girls to be at another level, even if overpriced?The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.
I was just informed everything is ready. The attached photo has the WhatsApp and email contact information. She has a catalog of the available women she can send.
If you think it's too expensive, or a dumb idea, or anything else, that's fine. If you're interested in setting something up, contact them. I have no involvement other than posting the information.
I can tell you that the woman running it is someone I trust, and there are very few women in Medellin who I can say that about.
Checked in at my hotel in Envigado, I'm quite impressed with the room. I don't know about guest access yet, but I have contingency plans. The next 5 days will mostly be spent with my #1 and #2 girls. #1 has been with me since she picked me up at the airport Tuesday night and she's been great.
I was just informed everything is ready. The attached photo has the WhatsApp and email contact information. She has a catalog of the available women she can send.
If you think it's too expensive, or a dumb idea, or anything else, that's fine. If you're interested in setting something up, contact them. I have no involvement other than posting the information.
I can tell you that the woman running it is someone I trust, and there are very few women in Medellin who I can say that about.For regular P4P, 300 mil COP is the standard rate for 3 hours, albeit also the transition point for overnight, but look at all the extras you are getting with this service. Love the costume choices. I hope this venture is a success. I may put my nail clippers in the safe and try it myself, jaja.
The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.Super convenient. Thanks.
In Laureles, I would recommend Fantasias Energy. The facility is clean, well maintained. There are always at least 10 girls, with a variety of body types, ages, and ethnicities. I like how they all wear sexy lingerie and stripe down in front of you during the parade. Especially that they take their time to show you their bodies, turn around so you can see them in 360. It's one of the sexist things a man in Medellin can do. Tantra is where I would go on a Sunday as they are one of the few places that open on Sundays.
In Centro, my go to place is New Life. 20 girls of all kinds, a manager who speaks English and pays after according to the time spent. I know a girl lives about 10 blocks east of New Life, and every time I see her, I stop in NL just to watch the parade. It does costs 4 k cop if you don't pick one to session, but for $1 I think it's money well spent.
Loutron is definitely a guarantee of having 8's or 9's to choose from, so if money is not a consideration and you want a pretty face, a trip to Loutron will satisfy your desires.I will hit Energy and will stop in Tantra, and New Life for sure. I do not mind paying a dollar to see the girls at Energy and New Life. Who cares, right? I believe the reason I paid $3k last time in Energy was that they gave me a bottle of water and I didn't take a girl. But still, who cares.
Does anyone know more or less the price of girls in Loutrons?
I'm going to whatsapp JJBee's maid service to see if they will send photos of the girls.
Which ones are GT and PHG? Did you like Sharks?Golden Time & Planet Happy Garden in Oedt. Never tried Sharks. After a few trips I tried to keep it simple instead of roaming all over so GT / PHG / The Palace were my three. People used to beware of The Palace but I cannot express how good that venue was for me.
The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.Loutron is not "runway models" but a silicone convention, some to the point of cartoonish. Any perception of "taller" likely relates to higher heels.
DonMedellin
05-01-22, 22:31
Just returned to Medellin yesterday. Settled in my new studio apt. Did a ton of shopping today, food, pillows and body wipes. Will try to hit Energy tomorrow and maybe casas in centro on Wednesday. What are some fun activities you have in mind this week?
BTW, mask mandate has been dropped, hotties in malls are showing their faces again. Medellin is back!
The "studio" was simply a detached house that did not stand out in a residential neighborhood. They would not let me inside. I had to pass the Mama-San's visual inspection before she would let Rita come outside. I spoke almost no Spanish back then in 2019.
What kind of visual inspection did she do? Did you have to take your clothes off?
ColombiaLover
05-02-22, 01:29
Glad to know about Abydos. I had thought it had long gone out of business. I used to frequent that place 15-17 years ago when it was the feeder program to Loutron (which was at that time up the hill a few blocks from the Mansion and Castillo). One of the best chicas I've ever had was in Abydos. She was young. Played basketball in HS, so she was a bit taller with a great body. Back then there was no such thing as FB and Whatsapp, so never saw her again. I'll have to give it a try. Back then, it was just a higher level of casa (close to Miel and Canela, which was lower end, but a great place to go if you wanted anal). They did not "advertise" themselves as a spa (which is what I found when I Googled them). Glad to know they offer real services beyond what's on the website. I might give it a try. Thanks.
The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.
I didn't see it in my Sent Folder, so my bad.
No strip search. Mama-San was being appropriately protective of her Web cam models and did not want to let Rita exit the studio until Mama-San looked me over. I didn't speak any Spanish at the time. Meaningless gesture really for all she knew I could've been a serial killer who was a really good actor (TBT or Ted Bundy-Type), but I guess the color of my aura was the right shade of fuschia because she let Rita leave with me.
What kind of visual inspection did she do? Did you have to take your clothes off?
MarquisdeSade1
05-02-22, 02:04
This I agree with, at least from the experiences I have had. GT, PHG, and The Palace in Frankfurt have provided me undoubtedly some of the best experiences of my life. It's been five years. I could arrive in the morning and stay until they close. Beer, food, ladies, comfort, relaxing, spa amenities. Unreal experience and I had some excellent girls.Wake up at hotel go to GT have chef make me some awesome breakfast, then start the hunt.
Have lunch, hit the jacuzzi maybe the sauna, maybe a nap in the garden.
Have dinner relax and chill, everyday.
Rinse and repeat next day, next day same, next day same.
The guys that live around there really have the best lives!!
Ahh If only I could live in Bruggen or even Darmstadt or Freidrichsdorf.
Funktified
05-02-22, 03:57
I was just informed everything is ready. The attached photo has the WhatsApp and email contact information. She has a catalog of the available women she can send.
If you think it's too expensive, or a dumb idea, or anything else, that's fine. If you're interested in setting something up, contact them. I have no involvement other than posting the information.
I can tell you that the woman running it is someone I trust, and there are very few women in Medellin who I can say that about.Can you post the website or social media link? - I can't open the attachment.
July fourth is a North American holiday and you probably will not hear a word about it while in Medellin. July 4, 2022 is Feast of Saint Peter and Saint Paul, which is a national holiday in Colombia. That may have an impact on P4P because many chicas will have a three day weekend with their families.
I have never met this chica face to face yet. She is a Web cam model.
I recently posted to JimBo about how being empathetic and acknowledging chicas' difficulties can go a long way toward keeping them happy, even when you don't give or send them money. This scenario is a little different because she is not on my List or an established novia, but the principles are the same.
The Whassap dialogue below is a great example.
The irony is when you read or listen to these chicas, sometimes they seem to be asking for money, when really they are not. Like females all over the world, sometimes all they want is a sympathetic ear. Not advice. Just someone who they perceive might actually give a shit.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and I made a couple of stupid, pointless comments below. My two comments at {7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} served no useful purpose but I left them in to show her reaction.
The fact that she described staying home and not working because she was sad about her bills was not lost on me. Obviously, that is counterproductive behavior. Unless she is your wife, don't "scold" these girls, which is the word they almost always use. Serves no purpose other than to create tension. They will not change because of your advice. Save your breath. All I did in a small way was validate her feelings, and let her vent.
Pay special attention to her comments at {7:44 PM, 4/29/2022}.
At {1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} purrfekt example of a cultural misunderstanding. I was telling her not to take things personally so she did not get her feelings hurt. She thought I meant I did not want to get close and personal with her.
{5:20 and 5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} was the turning point. Remember, without spending a peso despite the subject.
The second to last line, {5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} "I will make you happy", I am obviously using a euphemism for "I am not going to pay now, but I will pay later" after sex, and she knows that.
She is a sweet, sensitive girl. Ironically, on-line she is the nastiest, most dirty girl with whom I have ever tried to hook-up. That's what grabbed my attention. For looks, she is probably a 6.36377 at best, jajaja. With her, it's going to be all about performance, personality, and getting down-and-dirty. We all know more often that not, these plans don't pan out. But the fun in trying is fantastic. I will be sure to let you all know what happens.
I am into her for exactly zero pesos at this time. That's a lie because I just remembered I have tipped her on line, but no mucho. The hardest part will be if she decides to see me, how will I work her into my full schedule? Maybe invite her over to Scarlet's apartment for a 7-way, jajajajaja.
The take-home message is do not be the first to bring up the subject of money, especially sending money, with these chicas. Believe it or not, many times they are not looking for money, as show below. Took me a long time to learn that. There are plenty of chicas who will be aggressive about asking for money, but don't be the one who brings it up first. Ostee Out!
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Hi Love.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm online.
{4:19 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Do you want to come see me?
{5:13 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I'm a little sad.
{6:59 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: And you don't answer me for me to talk to someone.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Sorry baby, I've been busy.
{7:40 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Be happy that I was able to visit you for a few minutes on-line and give you a little tip.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Love.
{7:43 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I'm not saying that's why.
{7:44 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You don't even ask me the reason for my sadness.
{7:46 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Then tell me, of course. I want to know.
{7:47 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: You scold me without asking me what's wrong.
{7:48 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Honey, I'm not scolding you. I don't have a bad thought about you.
{7:49 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Okay?
{7:50 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Tell me.
{7:51 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Well, it's just that on Monday I have to pay the rent for my house and my work has gone a little badly, that's all, I'm a little worried.
{7:52 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: Yes, my love. That's a lot of stress and pressure.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed.
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: I was thinking of asking for money from a daily collector (loan shark).
{7:55 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't want to be in debt to someone like that.
{7:57 PM, 4/29/2022} Asti: You shouldn't, interest rates are too high, it can be dangerous.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: Yes indeed, yes.
{7:58 PM, 4/29/2022} Ally: But I don't know what to do.
{1:39 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Good afternoon love.
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Are you doing any better?
{1:40 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm home I felt bad and left work.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: If I was there in person, I would help you.
{1:42 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Of course.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Sorry you have to wait.
{1:46 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Why didn't you come see me today?
{1:48 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Don't take these things personally. I'm on a lunch break now. I have many things to do before returning to Medellin in less than two weeks.
{1:49 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: And why are you telling me not to take things personally?
{1:50 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: My Spanish is not that good, I meant you shouldn't let your feelings get hurt, I like you a lot, but the things I'm doing right now are important. Of course, I want to be personal with you and get to know you better.
{1:51 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: Do you understand?
{1:52 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: I will not intentionally hurt you. I will never hit you. We are off to a good start. I will tell you the truth as best I can.
{5:20 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: Thank you for always being there for me.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: You have earned my trust and love.
{5:21 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I'm really not lying to you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I want to meet you.
{5:22 PM, 4/30/2022} Asti: We will, I will make you happy, you just have to wait a little longer until I get there.
{5:23 PM, 4/30/2022} Ally: I will wait love.
I attached a couple of screenshots from a video I have of her. I think her general enthusiasm shows through. I will run laps on any chica who lines up her three holes like in the first foto- mouth, pussy, ass, mouth, pussy, ass. Anyone got a stopwatch? Or we can take bets how many holes I can get my leche dripping out of her at the same time. Love it. She has the requisite finger tattoos that that I often associate with that certain dirty rawness. Her doggy pose removes any doubt of three-hole access and shows her nice fat ass. I hope she pans out. I could use a good dose of raunchy sex with a new chica and this foreplay is delicious. Only time will tell.
The owner of Loutron also owns Abydos which is a massage / sex parlor on Avenida 33. Same level of women, but about half the price. Loutron has women that are taller, run way models, at higher prices. Abydos has more girls from the country, over all shorter, but more enthusiastic and affectionate.Abydos was my favorite casa back in the day. I'm sure they closed years ago.
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