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Last time I bought generic sildenafil (same as Viagra), price was 1400 pesos for 2 x 50 MG tablets of La Sant brand. This is at Drogas Calidad, CL 54 # 47-29, across street and up a bit from Parque Bolivar. Shop early because there's usually a line. The store also delivers free anywhere in the city. If I call an order in at 7, a motorcycle guy usually delivers to Belen around 11, which is when I pay cash. When I first came to Medellin, I shopped around and never found another drugstore with cheaper prices.Thanks for sharing this information.
The "Costa Rica-ization" of Medellin is in full effect.It is funny that you mention that. When I was visiting Costa Rica, I would hear the guys complaining about the prices rising in Costa Rica due to the weekend millionaire guys from the East Coast, particularly Florida. So these guys started heading to Colombia. Now they are experiencing the same thing in Medellin but they may have been part of the problem too. More guys showing up in Medellin, same amount of girls, the prices tend to rise. Supply and demand.
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MaddTraveler
09-22-22, 00:14
Are there any likely true and recent stories of guys getting in "trouble" for having pics on their phone of young women in sexy wear (bikinis, lingerie, etc.)?
If a CBP officer sees Maria on your phone in a bikini (and she is obviously not 12 or 13 but certainly looks college aged) what is the charge he tells you that you have as he's putting you in handcuffs?No you won't get in trouble for having normal pictures, that'd be crazy. But if your phone / laptop is being searched and a border agent sees (deemed) illegal messages like for ex prostitution type stuff or young girl images where age can be argued then you "could" get in trouble.
There are some specific cases I read about that I don't have time to search and post now, but found this Nytimes articles from couple yrs back on some specific incidents, also claims these agents have more of a "broader" authority then a police officer locally. So they can confiscate and ask you to unlock your device, etc. Yes TSA has made some statements that it's not customary that they do so, but Authority-wise they can if they have to.
My rule is, I first don't discuss pricing w dates until I land and in my hotel in mde or destination where it's legal, especially if haven't met her yet since she could be a he, a cop locally etc. We've all eaten catfish right? Then upon departure I delete all sex negotiation related messages except for normal convos.
We all watch tv right and see the hundreds of time normal people incl Doctors, Teachers, people with normal lives are arrested, divorced, humiliated on tv all because they called a hooker from an ad and discussed money in exch for sex.
Law enforcements in the US have a specific Dept that handles just that in all major cities, entrapments is what it's called and I hope I'm talking about something obvious here.
You can navigate it wisely, like call and ask for price, but no mention of sex, or mention sex, but no mention of price (say roses, like 200 roses etc meaning $200). And also when the ad or the girls respond in that type of format or vierbage, you can also guarantee she aint no cop or working w one.
Another way is to go after ads that says no discussion of price of any kind, and when you meet you can also ask to touch her breast or have her grab your penis as a test LOL. If they're working with law enforcement they won't do those.
Dude I pulled over once for a hookie years back and she immediately asked "what do you want, sex, blowjob, and said it's only $100. " See what she did, she already mentioned sex for money herself, and if only I agreed, whichever cop listening nearby would immediately circle me and for an arrest.
I suspected it and I replied as: "wow, can you just hop in my car and we'll discuss the details at my spot? She said "nah, can you at least give me a deposit like $30?" That'd also get me arrested as me agreeing to her offer. I decl and said I'm good and drove off. It's like playing fucking chess.
Those were the good ol days for me. Haven't done that shit in years but was a struggle to get a hookie and still is for those who don't travel. I think many of us sometimes become complacent once we start going overseas and forget how strict this shit is at home and not just strict but will land your ass in jail, career and family fucked and everything.
My comment and worry on my report was that my dude was posting his headshot pics taken together w brothel chicks and posting on social media and sending to friends to brag like he's some kinna player LOL.
Old article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/business/border-enforcement-airport-phones.html
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Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 01:31
Assuming that's all you have I think you would be fine. But if you also have messages about doing illegal things in the states everything is fair game on your phone. At least as I understand it. I think there was a recent supreme court case that was very supportive of border control though.I posted in this thread back in March that on one of those shows there was a guy coming back to the USA from Cartagena. Immigration went through his phone and saw the messages of him messaging some guy. The guy told him 250 exit fee and 500 for the girl (no idea if this was USD or COP.) And when you see her arrange the weekend price with her. The officer said the sex trade may be legal in those countries but we have to establish that it is not children or a trafficking ring. They started asking the guy about age and stuff and he said he is an alcholic and was drunk and could not remember. They asked him how many girls he paid while there and he said 2. He said one of the girls was 28. Then they asked him about a group chat and about if he knew some guy in Cambodia. Then they said they had to let him go because there was no evidence of any crime being committed. The video appeared to be from the National Geographic Channel. It was during covid because they all have masks on in the show.
It is funny that you mention that. When I was visiting Costa Rica, I would hear the guys complaining about the prices rising in Costa Rica due to the weekend millionaire guys from the East Coast, particularly Florida. So these guys started heading to Colombia. Now they are experiencing the same thing in Medellin but they may have been part of the problem too. More guys showing up in Medellin, same amount of girls, the prices tend to rise. Supply and demand.Largely a myth. Gals in Del Rey asked $100 12 years ago, and today they ask $100 or $120. They might have agreed to $70 dollars or even $60 back then, now they agree to $80 or $100. And their cost of living has doubled if not tripled in that time. In the late 90's and early 2000's a working girl in Costa Rica could get rich with a few dates a week. Today they barely survive with the same number of dates. And that is the main reason there are so many fewer in the business now. Costa Rica peaked in the 2000's as a sex paradise. It is actually cheaper now for a gringo as the dollar has gone from the 300 or less colones to the dollar, to 650 today. So what has happened there is not that the girls were spoiled by weekend millionaires. What has happened there is devalution of their currency and massive increases in cost of living. And only the older and desperate girls are still plying the trade in the old venues, for basically the same nominal amount they got 20 years ago.
This is true, in the US prostitution is not illegal and its legality varies from state to state. Haven't you heard of the famous Bunny Ranch in Nevada? Nevada has legal prostitution in brothels eventhough it's basically just a big ripoff. Also I believe Rhode Island has (or had) legal prostitution. And in Canada (Montreal) and Mexico (Tijuana, CDMX, etc) there is also legal prostitution. That pretty much covers North America.Canada used to have legal prostitution, but a lot of associated activities were illegal. Now it is technically illegal for the customer, not the provider. But this law is rarely enforced, some provinces are not enforcing it at all, others rarely. In Canada all criminal law is Federal, but administered by provinces. This law is seldom if ever applied to escort services or massage type setups. But street prostitution is discouraged, and johns have been charged once in a while.
MaddTraveler
09-22-22, 03:20
Largely a myth. Gals in Del Rey asked $100 12 years ago, and today they ask $100 or $120. They might have agreed to $70 dollars or even $60 back then, now they agree to $80 or $100. And their cost of living has doubled if not tripled in that time. In the late 90's and early 2000's a working girl in Costa Rica could get rich with a few dates a week. Today they barely survive with the same number of dates. And that is the main reason there are so many fewer in the business now. Costa Rica peaked in the 2000's as a sex paradise. It is actually cheaper now for a gringo as the dollar has gone from the 300 or less colones to the dollar, to 650 today. So what has happened there is not that the girls were spoiled by weekend millionaires. What has happened there is devalution of their currency and massive increases in cost of living. And only the older and desperate girls are still plying the trade in the old venues, for basically the same nominal amount they got 20 years ago.Please sticky this post admin, one of the very few that makes sense on this topic. No one never mention the obvious increase is cost of living till now.
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SoloOperadas
09-22-22, 08:47
Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron..What a story mate! The best fantasy and for the best possible price IMO. You done what a lot of people will dream of.
I also live in Bello LOL, in the barrio where you met, literally one street behind principal avenue zona roqq.
I will be back in December and January if you want to meet up and share some prepas stories! You have high quality in bello, but I already marry a Colombian girl, so it is a bit difficult to get some super xp as yours currently especially at night.
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 10:37
What has happened there is devalution of their currency and massive increases in cost of living. And only the older and desperate girls are still plying the trade in the old venues, for basically the same nominal amount they got 20 years ago.So what you are saying is the chicks actually did not need to be hookers to survive as many mongers mistakenly swear.
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 10:45
All 50 states are part of the United States. If something is illegal in a state, it is illegal in the United States. Not in all the United States, but if it was only in one locality, that is in the United States.But that is like saying the United States is on earth, so if something is illegal in the United States, then it is illegal on earth. While technically it would be true for only a portion of the earth, it would be misleading and very poor communication.
If something is illegal in a state, it is illegal in the United States. Not in all the United States, but if it was only in one locality, that is in the United States.Got to hand it to Gabacho on this one. According to your logic, Europe murdered 6 million Jews during WW2, or Europe has invaded Ukraine, or Europe won the latest soccer world cup.
I agree w you on Osteoporosis though.
... According to your logic, Europe murdered 6 million Jews during WW2, or Europe has invaded Ukraine, or Europe won the latest soccer world cup....I am not sure about it. Logically speaking, FL statements have negative operators in it, illegal as not legal. Not sure it will yield the same meaning when all the negatives are removed.
FL tried to define it to avoid confusion but GB tried to explain FL's definition is wrong, instead of agree on what they can agree. LOL. Similar situation when GB replaced the word federal with United States when he quoted Balboa's post.
I think your logic seems a little twisted. Europe didn't murder 6 million Jews, but 6 million Jews were murdered in Europe. In Gabacho's logic, 6 million Jews were not murdered in Europe because they were murdered in Germany.
For your other two points, Ukraine was invaded from Europe and the winner of the world cup is in Europe.
One final point, then I'm finished. Did hijackers crash planes into buildings in the United States on 9/11/2001?Lets try to return to the topic of attractive girls in Medellin. That is the primary reason we are all here.
MaddTraveler
09-22-22, 18:06
I posted in this thread back in March that on one of those shows there was a guy coming back to the USA from Cartagena. Immigration went through his phone and saw the messages of him messaging some guy. The guy told him 250 exit fee and 500 for the girl (no idea if this was USD or COP.) And when you see her arrange the weekend price with her. The officer said the sex trade may be legal in those countries but we have to establish that it is not children or a trafficking ring. They started asking the guy about age and stuff and he said he is an alcholic and was drunk and could not remember. They asked him how many girls he paid while there and he said 2. He said one of the girls was 28. Then they asked him about a group chat and about if he knew some guy in Cambodia. Then they said they had to let him go because there was no evidence of any crime being committed. The video appeared to be from the National Geographic Channel. It was during covid because they all have masks on in the show.See, you can def lose your job or spouse for this type of shit, even if you don't get prosecuted. Plus the embarrassment by being exposed on TV and you know it ain't going away anytime soon if ever.
Plus you'll be flagged in almost all airports. Not worth it having stupid content like that on your phone.
I think your logic seems a little twisted. Europe didn't murder 6 million Jews, but 6 million Jews were murdered in Europe. Now your changing my words to change the meaning. I didn't write anything about in or from. I see now that you will just continue arguing on your lost cause.
I am not sure about it. Logically speaking, FL statements have negative operators in it, illegal as not legal.On first glance one would think legal. / Illegal would be binary, but its not that simple. In the case where smthg can be either legal or illegal in different parts of a nation, you can neither claim it to be legal or illegal. You would need to use "parts of. " For your claim to make any sense.
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.How is that connected to the weekend warriors? You were paying the going rate, with maybe a bit of a discount when she was in Santa Fe and El Centro. When she started working Poblado she was in a place where the going rate starts at 200 k for 1 hour, extra for BB. Why would she work 2 hours for 200 k BB when she could easily upsell that to 500 k or more?
She changed venues. The rates are higher at the new venue. If you had first met her at Conejitas several years ago for 60-80 k, would you be blaming the ballers because she now gets 300 k when working at La Isla?
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of facial recognition system implemented on the Colombian side to identify all the "Promoters" (YouTubers, TikTokers, FB group owners, etc.) who show up. They will catch them at immigration and either ban them and turn them right back around on the spot, or throw them in jail and let them explain their way out of the situation to an underpaid attorney who definitly doesn't give two shits about how you ended up in said predicament.
Incidentally, there is definitely a correlation between this and how hard it has become to rent a spot where the owner is not screaming "No Sex Tourism! "No Parties! "No Visitors!
Wasn't really a thing pre-2020.It was a thing in 2017. I saw it in several places around Poblado, in hotels, in bars and on Airbnb listings.
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 20:27
Please sticky this post admin, one of the very few that makes sense on this topic. No one never mention the obvious increase is cost of living till now.Not so fast. So the cost of living went up 10% (don't know how much literally, but for example) but mongers should be paying chicks double or triple what they were before (according to prices mongers say some chicks are throwing out)? I have been going to Colombia for 17 years. A taxi from the airport in Bogota was like 16 K when I started going there. Then they went up to 28 K. Now with the advent of ridesharing apps some of those same taxis are picking me up for 16 K again. And what about the price changes of the SWs or motel rooms in downtown Medellin? If they have changed any it has been slightly. But it sure is not double or triple or no crazy stuff like that.
Mr Enternational
09-22-22, 20:39
She changed venues. The rates are higher at the new venue. If you had first met her at Conejitas several years ago for 60-80 k, would you be blaming the ballers because she now gets 300 k when working at La Isla?He mentioned that he originally met her at a venue. After that she would come over without him going to the venue she frequented. Just send a message and say baby I am in town come over. So he did not go up to Poblado and see her thinking he would get his same price. He called her to come for the same price as always, but since dudes at the new venue were giving her more, she wanted more from him. Another example of them not being your friends as some mongers want to make them out to be. They are with you for the work and your money. Don't get it twisted.
So what you are saying is the chicks actually did not need to be hookers to survive as many mongers mistakenly swear.Sure, lots need it because they have little or nothing else. But the sex trade is nowhere near as attractive as it once was. So it is not attracting as many as it once did. Hence less of the very attractive younger chicas entering the business.
MaddTraveler
09-22-22, 21:26
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Sure, lots need it because they have little or nothing else. But the sex trade is nowhere near as attractive as it once was. So it is not attracting as many as it once did. Hence less of the very attractive younger chicas entering the business.The very attractive younger girls do what very attractive younger girls do in all countries; they do not accept the amount of money spoken about on ISG. They go for several times that amount with the heavy rollers (I'm talking millionaires, politicians, etc.).
He mentioned that he originally met her at a venue. After that she would come over without him going to the venue she frequented. Just send a message and say baby I am in town come over. So he did not go up to Poblado and see her thinking he would get his same price. He called her to come for the same price as always, but since dudes at the new venue were giving her more, she wanted more from him. Another example of them not being your friends as some mongers want to make them out to be. They are with you for the work and your money. Don't get it twisted.Exactly! I had been seeing her since 2018 and once we established our price that is what I always paid. I never went to poblado to see her, in fact at that time I always stayed in a crap hotel in Centro. After discovering her new venue and the high rollers that pay 200 k then she decided to try to raise my price which ended up resulting in me not seeing her anymore.
You know if you go back in history by about 200 years there was legal prostitution all over the US. They used to have brothels from Ft. Worth, Texas to Cheyenne, Wyoming and everywhere in between. It was probably the stupid Republicans that started making it illegal, just like how they have dry counties in Kansas where it's illegal to drink alcohol. Republicans don't want people to be able to enjoy themselves, they just want you to go to church and be stupid like them, and they don't want women to have access to abortions either.Men who do not have sex are easier to manipulate. Men who have regular sex can think clearly. Human beings are meant by nature to have regular intercourse.
I think every part of what you wrote is correct. I also think there is no longer any logical reason to run the risk now that there are all sorts of easy methods to store that kind of content off devices you carry across borders.
See, you can def lose your job or spouse for this type of shit, even if you don't get prosecuted. Plus the embarrassment by being exposed on TV and you know it ain't going away anytime soon if ever.
Plus you'll be flagged in almost all airports. Not worth it having stupid content like that on your phone.
In technical professions like aviation, medicine, and information technology the concept of bias confirmation is a tool to help prevent practitioners overlooking or misinterpreting objective facts to avoid undesirable and unexpected outcomes. Bias confirmation involves ignoring or misinterpreting data that contradict conscious or unconscious bias. Using aviation as an example, pilots receive continuous bias confirmation training because their work involves split second life or death decisions. Bias confirmation has been found to be a recurring cause of disastrous air accidents, including collisions with mountains and aircraft dropping from the sky after they run out of fuel. Some of the bias confirmation I've seen at play on this website is the idea that Centro girls are never present in Parque Lleras (this despite first hand accounts and youtube evidence to the contrary) and more recently the weekend warrior driven market trends. The weekend warrior inflation thing is a not a serious matter. The bias that girls from certain sources are more or less prone to slip us a mickey is a serious matter. It's the sort of thing that can lead to disaster because if we aren't aware of it bias confirmation can cause us to drop our guard and ignore danger signals.
Now that I've gotten that off my chest I will repeat my disingenuous concession that weekend warriors are the root of all cost increases.
How is that connected to the weekend warriors? You were paying the going rate, with maybe a bit of a discount when she was in Santa Fe and El Centro. When she started working Poblado she was in a place where the going rate starts at 200 k for 1 hour, extra for BB. Why would she work 2 hours for 200 k BB when she could easily upsell that to 500 k or more?
She changed venues. The rates are higher at the new venue. If you had first met her at Conejitas several years ago for 60-80 k, would you be blaming the ballers because she now gets 300 k when working at La Isla?
Saw this today-See Photos for story-.
There should be a Medellin arguments thread because that's literally 80% of the posts here. While you dudes have fun spamming each other, you realize it makes it more difficult for people to find the information they need. I posted information about a scammer just two days ago. A chica with 2. 3 k friends who probably is on a few peoples' friends list, but instead that's now buried a few pages deep because of random shit no one cares about. Can you people start a discord or subreddit or something?
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LoveItHere69
09-23-22, 04:12
On a good and positive note on Medellin is that the city is very large, so it will never become Sosua or Cartagena w these so called Weekend warriors I read so much about lately. Why the worry? Let those who want to spend their money spend their money, let them have Parque Llera, Gusto, Etc. Also most folks here or comments on this are so exaggerating on the issue.The New Yorkers have increased prices and attitudes in Sosua while performance has dropped and the time allowed has dropped. Angeles City PH has gone from bars that had girls on stage naked, to bikini, to now many wearing full dresses thanks to the week end type S. Koreans because they have cheap short flights from their country. The number of girly bars has dropped 40% in 20 years. Globalization is making the Western World poorer by the day while other countries are rapidly becoming rich. Fifty years ago S. Korea was a third world country but is now 1st world. Many of these guys visited the Philippines back in the day when India, China, and S. Korea had no money and thus their citizens could not travel and were never seen. Now they are all over the Philippines and Thailand and expanding to other countries. Many countries are becoming richer so there is less need for women to offer themselves to us. So demand is greater than what is available. I wish I could hear you talk 25 years from now. Why? That is because in 20 years mongering will be 2-3 times worse for you than it is for us with less girls and more guy competition. In the long run I feel sorry for you. The comments are not exaggerated. You just are not old enough or have enough experience on what to look for to notice and unable to connect the dots. You and so many others are clueless. You think the older guys here are mad about higher prices? How do you think the Colombian men feel when they hear these outrageous prices? They get mad at foreigners and in the future I predict some of them to start taking their frustrations out on all of us. You and others need to look at the bigger picture. Did you ever consider the Colombian men's situation related to higher prices? No you and many others do not. It is all about "ME ME ME". Yes the locals are not getting charged the same price but a higher price non the less. How do you think the Colombian guy feels like when he is turned down because she is waiting for a foreigner and 5 minutes later she goes with a foreigner.
Fur Jacket
09-23-22, 09:43
Just landed and took a quick stroll. All I have to say is wow! Thank you to everyone that contributes to this forum. I feel like I have learned a lot. I feel like I am prepared to hit the ground LOL. Wish me luck!
I'm with you. I honestly don't care what anyone else pays and I don't much care what anyone does within reason.
On a good and positive note on Medellin is that the city is very large, so it will never become Sosua or Cartagena w these so called Weekend warriors I read so much about lately. Why the worry? Let those who want to spend their money spend their money, let them have Parque Llera, Gusto, Etc. Also most folks here or comments on this are so exaggerating on the issue.
We all know the real Medellin is in Laureles, Centro, the casas, the apartments, all spread out and most of the fake ballers we speak of have zero skills or too lazy to navigate those for the most part.
Then let's not forget the most beautiful women in Colombia IMO come from Pereira, Risaralda. If you use SA you know what I mean and the fake ballers know nothing of sorts.
GrantGreen
09-23-22, 18:50
Does anyone have any experience at the Cinnamon Apartments? I'm looking at an Airbnb over there, and it says guest friendly. But I went to be certain there isn't a limit or number per day without a big fee.
LoveTheSport
09-23-22, 21:01
Just landed and took a quick stroll. All I have to say is wow! Thank you to everyone that contributes to this forum. I feel like I have learned a lot. I feel like I am prepared to hit the ground LOL. Wish me luck!Keep us posted.
There should be a Medellin arguments thread because that's literally 80% of the posts here. No there shouldn't! . For those too young to notice, just a little Monty Python joke there.
MaddTraveler
09-23-22, 21:57
There should be a Medellin arguments thread because that's literally 80% of the posts here. While you dudes have fun spamming each other, you realize it makes it more difficult for people to find the information they need. I posted information about a scammer just two days ago. A chica with 2. 3 k friends who probably is on a few peoples' friends list, but instead that's now buried a few pages deep because of random shit no one cares about. Can you people start a discord or subreddit or something?I notice a clear pattern, when dudes are in between trips and back home that's when they come here to argue LMAO. Then all smiles again and happy posts when in Col. We can blame this I guess on the though and sex-deprived life back home LOL. I mean there are lots of good shows on Netflix right now to reduce frustration LOL.
(To the El JeFe / Admin of this board, most of my posts are sarcasm and not all to be taken seriously. Allow some humor among all of this sweaty sausage fest seriousness please LOL).
Went to New Life today. Pulled out only to realize the condom was a ring. Chich immediately freaked out.
TwistedGreens
09-23-22, 23:10
Just landed and took a quick stroll. All I have to say is wow! Thank you to everyone that contributes to this forum. I feel like I have learned a lot. I feel like I am prepared to hit the ground LOL. Wish me luck!Good luck buddy. I will be making my trip to Medellin for the first time and can't wait.
Balimassage
09-23-22, 23:52
I am going back to Medellin this week. I just bought a new phone in US, slipped in my claro SIM, transferred all my data including whatsapp. I am unable to get the verification code for whatsapp here in US for the claro number. My regular recharged 10 mil pesos yesterday but that looks like it was data only recharge and no SMS. Is there an amount of recharge that can give messages and calls so I can get whatsapp verified here while on roaming. I think claro connects via Verizon here.I don't think you can get roaming working. Going to have to wait till you land, or have someone get you a new SIM and activate it and send you the new code.
I see you got a new phone. Sorry the activation doesn't work. When I get a new iphone and migrate I haven't had a problem.
Why not just use your USA number? That way you are assured of keeping your number forever so your contacts can find you later (haha or is that what you're avoiding? If you'd still like a local whatsapp, you can get Whatsapp Business and add a colombian number there and then you'll have 2 accounts. I use the second one for local numbers as needed.
There should be a Medellin arguments thread because that's literally 80% of the posts here. While you dudes have fun spamming each other, you realize it makes it more difficult for people to find the information they need. I posted information about a scammer just two days ago. A chica with 2. 3 k friends who probably is on a few peoples' friends list, but instead that's now buried a few pages deep because of random shit no one cares about. Can you people start a discord or subreddit or something?There already is a sub section for arguments.
BarrioSpinners
09-24-22, 12:02
In regards of social media hunting, I had plenty of matches on tinder but on FB I sent a few requests but not as many as I was expecting. Accepted, sent DM but almost no answers. I was wondering if FB might have some alghoritm that block this and that. Chicas on Tinder gave me whatsapp number and some charged up to 300.
SankarShetty
09-24-22, 12:27
I don't think you can get roaming working. Going to have to wait till you land, or have someone get you a new SIM and activate it and send you the new code.
I see you got a new phone. Sorry the activation doesn't work. When I get a new iphone and migrate I haven't had a problem.
Why not just use your USA number? That way you are assured of keeping your number forever so your contacts can find you later (haha or is that what you're avoiding? If you'd still like a local whatsapp, you can get Whatsapp Business and add a colombian number there and then you'll have 2 accounts. I use the second one for local numbers as needed.I think roaming works both in postpaid accounts and the plan that is loaded for prepaid. I have received sms after my MDE trips for a few days in US and Mexico. I think the easy way is to pop in a new SIM on everytrip but I do want to keep the local number. I hate giving out my US number on tinder and seek. The American numbers always attract big $$ asks.
Buy a cheap dirt phone and get a local number.
I think roaming works both in postpaid accounts and the plan that is loaded for prepaid. I have received sms after my MDE trips for a few days in US and Mexico. I think the easy way is to pop in a new SIM on everytrip but I do want to keep the local number. I hate giving out my US number on tinder and seek. The American numbers always attract big $$ asks.
I admit I'm one of them. But, mostly I'm here to shame ya'll. Again, ya'll can have MDE and the shady-ass Paisa. I'll take the rest of Colombia.
I notice a clear pattern, when dudes are in between trips and back home that's when they come here to argue LMAO. Then all smiles again and happy posts when in Col. We can blame this I guess on the though and sex-deprived life back home LOL. I mean there are lots of good shows on Netflix right now to reduce frustration LOL.
(To the El JeFe / Admin of this board, most of my posts are sarcasm and not all to be taken seriously. Allow some humor among all of this sweaty sausage fest seriousness please LOL).
Thank you! A perfect example is Sosua! It's those "Make It Rain" fools that fuck it up. They don't consider the economic eco-system in the country they are in.
The New Yorkers have increased prices and attitudes in Sosua while performance has dropped and the time allowed has dropped. Angeles City PH has gone from bars that had girls on stage naked, to bikini, to now many wearing full dresses thanks to the week end type S. Koreans because they have cheap short flights from their country. The number of girly bars has dropped 40% in 20 years. Globalization is making the Western World poorer by the day while other countries are rapidly becoming rich. Fifty years ago S. Korea was a third world country but is now 1st world. Many of these guys visited the Philippines back in the day when India, China, and S. Korea had no money and thus their citizens could not travel and were never seen. Now they are all over the Philippines and Thailand and expanding to other countries. Many countries are becoming richer so there is less need for women to offer themselves to us. So demand is greater than what is available. I wish I could hear you talk 25 years from now. Why? That is because in 20 years mongering will be 2-3 times worse for you than it is for us with less girls and more guy competition. In the long run I feel sorry for you. The comments are not exaggerated. You just are not old enough or have enough experience on what to look for to notice and unable to connect the dots. You and so many others are clueless. You think the older guys here are mad about higher prices? How do you think the Colombian men feel when they hear these outrageous prices? They get mad at foreigners and in the future I predict some of them to start taking their frustrations out on all of us. You and others need to look at the bigger picture. Did you ever consider the Colombian men's situation related to higher prices? No you and many others do not. It is all about "ME ME ME". Yes the locals are not getting charged the same price but a higher price non the less. How do you think the Colombian guy feels like when he is turned down because she is waiting for a foreigner and 5 minutes later she goes with a foreigner.
My first experience with a Colombiana was in Jaco. If I remember correctly the price was $80 for a nut. After sex, we would chat it up. She was from the 'Jean. That's when I thought I need to go to the source. The rest is history!
It is funny that you mention that. When I was visiting Costa Rica, I would hear the guys complaining about the prices rising in Costa Rica due to the weekend millionaire guys from the East Coast, particularly Florida. So these guys started heading to Colombia. Now they are experiencing the same thing in Medellin but they may have been part of the problem too. More guys showing up in Medellin, same amount of girls, the prices tend to rise. Supply and demand.
I've been stopped and harassed by immigration twice coming from MDE. The best is to give them as few details as possible because they will interrogate you based on the answer you give them.
I posted in this thread back in March that on one of those shows there was a guy coming back to the USA from Cartagena. Immigration went through his phone and saw the messages of him messaging some guy. The guy told him 250 exit fee and 500 for the girl (no idea if this was USD or COP.) And when you see her arrange the weekend price with her. The officer said the sex trade may be legal in those countries but we have to establish that it is not children or a trafficking ring. They started asking the guy about age and stuff and he said he is an alcholic and was drunk and could not remember. They asked him how many girls he paid while there and he said 2. He said one of the girls was 28. Then they asked him about a group chat and about if he knew some guy in Cambodia. Then they said they had to let him go because there was no evidence of any crime being committed. The video appeared to be from the National Geographic Channel. It was during covid because they all have masks on in the show.
I have a new chica that wants to go with me to La Pascina, while I have been to Medellin a few times, this would be my first swinger experience. I RTFFd, but I am wondering if there are any new thoughts / experiences with the swinger clubs. How is safety? Do we just lock our shit in a locker?
I've been stopped and harassed by immigration twice coming from MDE. The best is to give them as few details as possible because they will interrogate you based on the answer you give them.Would you mind elaborating on this?
I've never been stopped and questioned by immigration in the USA when returning from Colombia.
Which airport did this occur in? Do you have Global Entry as I have it and perhaps it makes a difference.
And your correct about not saying much.
Were you taken to "secondary" away from the immigration booths, or just questioned by the officer at the booth?
And why do you feel immigration was harassing you?
Perhaps maybe you've been flagged in the system. For guys that leave the Country to wherever, if they have some type of restraining order on them in the USA, even if it's a benign thing, they will get sent to secondary.
Regardless, getting hassled is not fun, and unfortunately a lot of times people don't know why.
I guess a lot of us here may fit a profile they are looking for, so perhaps immigration is looking to trip someone up while questioning.
Kind of begs the question, what is a middle aged or older male travelling to Colombia for all the time?
And the answer is, "pussy", try telling an immigration officer that and see what happens. LOL.
This is not correct. You can get roaming working on Claro post paid or pre paid accounts. Device settings are among the things that can interfere. Devices can be set to disable voice / data / SMS roaming, or the device may have a network preference set (it should be set for "auto" detection rather than preferred.
I don't think you can get roaming working. Going to have to wait till you land, or have someone get you a new SIM and activate it and send you the new code.
I see you got a new phone. Sorry the activation doesn't work. When I get a new iphone and migrate I haven't had a problem.
Why not just use your USA number? That way you are assured of keeping your number forever so your contacts can find you later (haha or is that what you're avoiding? If you'd still like a local whatsapp, you can get Whatsapp Business and add a colombian number there and then you'll have 2 accounts. I use the second one for local numbers as needed.
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Went to New Life today. Pulled out only to realize the condom was a ring. Chich immediately freaked out.I was told by my fav chica, they are frequently being tested for any deases. However watch out for mamasans who don't.
Thank you! A perfect example is Sosua! It's those "Make It Rain" fools that fuck it up. They don't consider the economic eco-system in the country they are in.Yes. Comparing a town of 50,000 to a city of 4 million is definitely the way to go.
... but on FB I sent a few requests but not as many as I was expecting. Accepted, sent DM but almost no answers. I was wondering if FB might have some alghoritm that block this and that. ...You need to keep doing it. That is the advice I was given. Think about 5% response rate.
He mentioned that he originally met her at a venue. After that she would come over without him going to the venue she frequented. Just send a message and say baby I am in town come over. So he did not go up to Poblado and see her thinking he would get his same price. He called her to come for the same price as always, but since dudes at the new venue were giving her more, she wanted more from him. Another example of them not being your friends as some mongers want to make them out to be. They are with you for the work and your money. Don't get it twisted.Let's put it another way. Assume she charges the same higher price to all new and existing customers. How much do you think she should charge in this case? I personally think friendship goes both ways.
If you have an arrangement with a woman that comes to clean your place once a week, will she be allowed to increase her rate? A different scenario is the woman comes to clean your place on demand without arrangement, can she raise her rate or does she need to stick with the same rate from the very beginning?
I have a regular in BA, she increased her rate 150% within a year while the currency has depreciated about 50% during the same period. I made my decision based on whether the increased price represents a good value or not. I am not too hung up on the price in the past. She said now she has a group of regular customers and she no longer goes out to the clubs.
PseudoGene
09-24-22, 18:48
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".
Mr Enternational
09-24-22, 19:09
Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".Why can't you? I have done it before and was told welcome back.
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".Simple answer. "I have friends and / or family in Medellin".
Either that or transit via a 3rd country.
I'm glad I never get this, no-one really cares where I'm going when I leave the UK. However when questioned by customs / immigration they're often looking at how you answer, rather than what you answer with. Evasive language, hesitation, et al. Just practice answering with confidence.
"I'm going to see a friend".
"what friend".
"Steve, driller from Nebroma, met him back in 72". Go full Grandpa Simpson and they'll be begging you to stop.
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".A good chance that it is drugs they are questioning. That is the other reason for frequent trips back and forth to the same place in Colombia.
Mr Enternational
09-24-22, 20:14
A good chance that it is drugs they are questioning. That is the other reason for frequent trips back and forth to the same place in Colombia.Exactly. Why do mongers think they care that they are fucking consenting adults?
ILuvThePussy
09-24-22, 20:21
You need to keep doing it. That is the advice I was given. Think about 5% response rate.My Facebook account recently got disabled for doing that. I would friend every girl in my recommended from medellin and send a few girls messages every day to keep the prepagos and delete the girls who weren't interested. Sent in an appeal a few days ago, hopefully reinstate my account. I had over 500 confirmed prepagos.
JackTaggart
09-24-22, 20:36
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".With Montreal I would just say I was visiting my favorite place in the world and also a special bar that I liked to hang out at and meet people and that I needed a little vacation from home. And it was actually true. I didn't bring up the women I also planned to meet. I was only going for 3-4 days at a time though and it was driving. Enough specifics but also vauge enough. I would let them ask the bar name and for any more info if they wanted. They rarely did. Way over thinking it, but if things ever got to searching me they would have found receipts for said bar.
Maybe consider something cultural like learning salsa, immersing yourself in Spanish. Etc. Connecting with friends is valid too. When they ask why you can't learn salsa at home, you mention that you are fortunate to have the means to go to the experts and the weather is good for you. Or that you keep going back to explore more and more before deciding to do an investment and / you decide that you might want to start living there for part of the year.
Now I thought of those things because they happen to be true, just like my Montreal example.
For Colombia, I have always just said business when coming and going and I get an immediate stamp. But yet again that happens to be true. I leave out all the other true cultural and social things in this case because it might just muddy the waters.
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.
DandyMan51
09-24-22, 21:59
I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:
1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?
2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?
3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?
Thanks.
I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami. Sometime around 2012-2014. I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.
In regards to sex crimes, I do know someone that was wrapped up in the Colombia Jake stuff and he was stopped, questioned, and retained both in Colombia and in the US. US Feds were in Colombia and they kept him overnight trying to get more information, but were primarily focused on underage stuff and suspected trafficking with his 'dating service,' not the normal prostitution.
This is good advice. Be advised however it is not strictly legal to lie to federal officials. It can cause a variety of personal and professional problems down the line. It's best to be honest and stick to the facts. If you claim to own property somewhere it's unlikely be an issue in the situation of an immigration conversation. It the inspector becomes suspicious, the very next question would be something similar to "what is the address of your property?" If you are going to deal in half truths or outright lies, you better be prepared for follow up questions. That is why a response like "I visited friends" or "I wanted to see the parts of the Botero collection I wasn't able to get to during previous trips. " Inspectors are on the lookout for nervous behavior, inconsistent statements, and profiles such as middle aged gringo men traveling alone. Information is power.
I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami. Sometime around 2012-2014. I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.
In regards to sex crimes, I do know someone that was wrapped up in the Colombia Jake stuff and he was stopped, questioned, and retained both in Colombia and in the US. US Feds were in Colombia and they kept him overnight trying to get more information, but were primarily focused on underage stuff and suspected trafficking with his 'dating service,' not the normal prostitution.
The reason for the questions is the inspectors are looking for people who are involved in illegal activity. If you can explain your reason for traveling to Colombia in any reasonable way without nervous or evasive behavior it is highly unlikely there will be follow up questions. The question international traveler hear from immigration people more than any other is "what is the purpose of your travel?" The most common follow up question is "what do you do for a living?" These are not complicated questions. Inspectors quickly become suspicious when they receive unusually complicated, hesitant, or evasive responses. When they receive the logical responses they normally receive delivered in a direct and natural manner, they send the travelers on their way. Hostile or agitated behavior will also lead to further investigation.
Some good examples: what is the purpose of your travel. Vacation, why so often. I have friends, some are retired, how do they like being retired there. They enjoy the climate and cost of living. Some bad examples: what is the purpose of your travel. Uh-uh what do you mean. I don't know, Sir what do you do for a living. I'm kind of an investor, Are you married. What's it to you!
I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.
Drugs, human trafficking, money laundering / cash smuggling, fugitive from justice. They have their profiles and they are constantly on the lookout.
A good chance that it is drugs they are questioning. That is the other reason for frequent trips back and forth to the same place in Colombia.
That puts a damper on the trip for sure. Don't they use lube at New Life?
Went to New Life today. Pulled out only to realize the condom was a ring. Chich immediately freaked out.
Just came back from a 3 week trip. My main targets were new and repeat FB chicas and Centro SWs brought back to my apartment.
As far as prices go, in peso terms, I was pleasantly surprised that prices didn't increase much, especially zero increase in Centro girl prices. The dollar being so high right now I ended up spending a lot less than I thought I would.
New FB girls took what I offered last year but pressured me to pay an additional 20-50 mil for taxi. So after some meetings I just added more taxi money as a part of my initial offer. Girls I knew from last year or earlier accepted previous year's price without a taxi surcharge.
I got flaked on a lot this time, at least 10 times and 4 times from the same girl that I really wanted to see (and did succeed in seeing in the end). But since I stayed in Laureles, it was a 10 min taxi ride to Centro and before 8 pm there are always plenty of girls who'd accept my offer to go back to my AirBNB. Typically I would schedule an FB appointment one day ahead and confirm same day in the morning and again 2 hours ahead. The best is when the girl confirmed by herself. If the girl doesn't respond to the 2-hour notice, you're going to be pretty sure she'll flake or at least be very late, since it takes them 1 HR to do makeup / get dressed and 1 hour or so to travel by taxi.
Many girls from previous trips gained weight, so it's important to see recent pics even if you knew them from before. I posted a mini-guide on how to avoid overweight chicas a short while ago. I think it's a good idea to refresh your FB list before each trip to filter out those girls that haven't taken care of themselves.
If you enjoy girls with small thin bodies, Centro has great pickings. However the SW scene is just better in Bogota, so they were just backups in case of flakes. I don't think there's a reason to go to Medellin if your main goal is low cost SWs or in-house services in clubs.
Worst thing that happened this time was a scam that I posted about a few days ago. Some of the best sessions include a part time model with a perfect porn star body, a centro girl who just came from some small town in Venezuela who also had an excellent undamaged body, two girls who thought my ethnicity was exotic and was really into me (nothing like this happens in the US LOL).
Though I've been to Medellin several times before, this was the coldest trip that I can remember. I only brought 2 long sleeves and 2 jackets, none of these were particularly thick. I wish I'd brought one sweater because it did get really cold, like Bogota level cold, when it rained.
Mr Enternational
09-25-22, 00:33
I don't think it's complicated, just say your girlfriend lives there or you have property. What they can get you for is bringing controlled substances / medications back from Colombia so be careful about that.Yeah it is not complicated when you tell the truth. Why lie? Because when they catch you in a lie they are going to put a microscope up your ass and you will probably end up on some list. When they ask you what is the address of your property or for your girlfriend's phone number, you better have a good answer. Once they had my buddy call the girlfriend he was going to see. Luckily it was not a lie!
I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. ...I think they ask question to catch your mistake. They don't really want your answer. That is why it is best to keep the answer simple. Let's say you traveled around the world for 12 months and returned from your last stop Mexico City. They may ask how long have you been in Mexico City? You say 3 days which does not match their expectation either by design or stupidity and they may act in a way that make you think you did something wrong but it really is that they ask the wrong question considering they do this everyday.
PadrePioDorco
09-25-22, 00:48
What's the best casa in terms of quality, when money is not an issue?
I haven't had it happen since I got Global Entry, but prior to that I was stopped once in New York and once in Miami.The beauty of Global Entry is they typically don't ask questions like a lot of other guys have been experiencing who don't have GE.
In essence they just waive you thru but on a few occasions I've been asked if I have anything to declare which they always ask of non GE participants.
GE was set into place to streamline the immigration process, and anyone who travels internationally is foolish not to have it.
A perfect example of this having nothing to do with questioning, but are the wait times to get thru immigration at some airports.
Probably the biggest offender is Fort Lauderdale. I remember returning from Colombia with a buddy who did not have GE and it took him over an hour to get thru immigration and I was thru it in five minutes.
Not everybody can get GE though, but for those who can, just the wait time alone getting thru immigration is what the real value can be.
And after returning from Colombia the last thing you want to deal with are immigration officials asking questions.
I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:
1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?
2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?
3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?
Thanks.This is what I did. You may get better advice than this but I am just saying how I did it. I am actually hoping others chime in. Obviously she can put the whole thing off the rails at any point or cut to the chase at any point.
1) Here is the "I know you're a nice girl but how much to fuck?" dance.
A) Hello,how are you, you have beautiful.
Response.
B) what kind of a relation are you looking for maybe we could meet if you like. Let's switch to Whatsapp.
She will probably give you some BS here. The best answer is beneficios mutuo. She will ask you what you are looking for – tell her you want the same.
C) after you tell her what you are looking for mention that the physical thing is important but be gentle about it, apologize for being forward but you are only here for a short time, would she like to come to your place for a drink, you would be happy to give her a gift.
She will ask what kind of gift. You should ask her what sort of gift she would like – you can now negotiate the price – after you negotiate the price. Then you need to lay out you expectations re services and make sure she agrees.
2) just message them.
3) I would not start more than a day or two before – you need to establish a date and time to meet when you are getting to the point.
Husker Dude
09-25-22, 01:55
I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.I got stopped last year in Miami coming back from Colombia. I had gone to the Dominican Republic about 2 months prior & they quizzed me about both trips, took my iPhone and iPad to the back for about an hour. Caused me to miss my connection.
I got stopped last year in Miami coming back from Colombia. I had gone to the Dominican Republic about 2 months prior & they quizzed me about both trips, took my iPhone and iPad to the back for about an hour. Caused me to miss my connection.Interesting that you mention the DR. I went there with a buddy back in November of 2020 (depths of Covid). It was guy's golf and fishing trip as he doesn't monger. Anyway, we both exited the baggage area in Miami together and they stop him. I stay close thinking they mistakenly ID'd him when looking for someone else and the agent asks me why, I respond that he's my friend to which the agent asks 'Will you vouch for everything he has?' This guy is a close friend and we were together the whole time so I said 'Of course' which angered him further. My buddy waived me off and they took him to the back for 30 minutes. He said they didn't ask about any of his meds or sports supplements. They wanted to go through his iPhone and he asked if he was being detained as he had personal business that afternoon. He wasn't trying to be a hard ass, but he's an educated guy and knows his rights. Isn't intimidated by them. They said he wasn't so he was polite and asked if he could leave to which they acquiesced. The shit thing was he said they had his stuff spread everywhere. No help in re-packing like the TSA folks LOL.
This is spot on but be careful with the over the top specificity. Just respond truthfully and in a natural conversational manner. I had forgotten about what happened to me on the way out of Medellin years ago after one of my first non business trips. The policeman who checks passports just before the x-ray machines asked me the purpose of my visit. I responded "turismo. " he then asked me what I did during the trip. I told him I went to some restaurants and bars and the botanical garden (all true). This is the good part, he then said "you probably met some girls too" with a smile. I responded "si, comparti con unas cuantas viejas buenas. " That got a loud belly laugh out of him as he waved me through and told me to have a nice trip.
Simple answer. "I have friends and / or family in Medellin".
Either that or transit via a 3rd country.
I'm glad I never get this, no-one really cares where I'm going when I leave the UK. However when questioned by customs / immigration they're often looking at how you answer, rather than what you answer with. Evasive language, hesitation, et al. Just practice answering with confidence.
"I'm going to see a friend".
"what friend".
"Steve, driller from Nebroma, met him back in 72". Go full Grandpa Simpson and they'll be begging you to stop.
MaddTraveler
09-25-22, 03:50
The beauty of Global Entry is they typically don't ask questions like a lot of other guys have been experiencing who don't have GE.
In essence they just waive you thru but on a few occasions I've been asked if I have anything to declare which they always ask of non GE participants.
GE was set into place to streamline the immigration process, and anyone who travels internationally is foolish not to have it.
A perfect example of this having nothing to do with questioning, but are the wait times to get thru immigration at some airports.
Probably the biggest offender is Fort Lauderdale. I remember returning from Colombia with a buddy who did not have GE and it took him over an hour to get thru immigration and I was thru it in five minutes.
Not everybody can get GE though, but for those who can, just the wait time alone getting thru immigration is what the real value can be.
And after returning from Colombia the last thing you want to deal with are immigration officials asking questions.Border agent / immigration used to ask me question upon re-etry, basic stuff like what was the purpose of my visit, etc. I normally give short answ like fam visit or tourism, then as soon as I got GE I never get asked anything. Few Months back an agent asked me as a joke and in a friendly manner "So tell me, how are the girls in Col". I replied and said you have to just go visit for yourself. In my mind you still can detain if I'm foolish enough to give you details LOL, he then laughed and said ah ok one day I'll go.
This is exactly right. Not long ago there was a thread started by someone who was denied global entry. We all debated the possible reasons. If you can get it the $100 fee is money well spent, even if you don't travel very often.
The beauty of Global Entry is they typically don't ask questions like a lot of other guys have been experiencing who don't have GE.
In essence they just waive you thru but on a few occasions I've been asked if I have anything to declare which they always ask of non GE participants.
GE was set into place to streamline the immigration process, and anyone who travels internationally is foolish not to have it.
A perfect example of this having nothing to do with questioning, but are the wait times to get thru immigration at some airports.
Probably the biggest offender is Fort Lauderdale. I remember returning from Colombia with a buddy who did not have GE and it took him over an hour to get thru immigration and I was thru it in five minutes.
Not everybody can get GE though, but for those who can, just the wait time alone getting thru immigration is what the real value can be.
And after returning from Colombia the last thing you want to deal with are immigration officials asking questions.
MaddTraveler
09-25-22, 04:20
I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:
1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?
2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?
3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?
Thanks.First thing to know is that it's Illegal in the US for PPM (Pay per meet) arrangements. And yes there are law enforcement agencies w fake girls profile on SA just like they targeted Backpage few yrs back and still today use SA or other escort svc sites to lock up brain dead average Johns. Clearly SA isn't itself listed as an escort svc, but we know 99% of the participants are doing just that, tricking, escorting etc.
The purpose of SA is to establish a more of a long-term arrangement of wealthy men or women and compensate on a scheduled basis the sugar baby / dates w gifts or other forms. I post about this often, that we go so many times to Col and other countries where paying for sex is normal that we forget at times that we will go straight to jail for this back home.
- Meaning first, the PPM issue is VERY strict with SA itself, and they immediately prompt you with a message that says it is NOT allowed, and it's displayed on the site once you're logged in.
- Secondly, I notice some other member responded to you and said you should get straight to the point and even gave you an example to ask for "how much for sex" LOL, right, do that while you're in the US and you'll likely get arrested or have your account closed.
- So now on how to use: Just be you! Just like no one can tell you how to start a conversation with someone in the street. Start talking just like you would with any other dating sites.
- PPM, Obviously we all do this, but already explained why we don't mention it while at home, but as soon as you're in Colombia or destination where this practice is legal, and after you've obtain a WhatsApp number, then you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Decide on the PPM cost, if you're living there or extended time you can make a long-term arrangement like x-amt for a week and meeting 3-5 times, overnights, etc. You can choose to pay at the end of the week, like a job LOL. Many do this even in the US.
So you chose your terms and don't ask the girls what they want, most don't know and they appreciate men that are straight forward, or guide them to a reasonable accommodation where everyone is happy. I always, and always go first for lunch or dinner or drinks to get a feel first for chemistry, or in case they look so diff like used older pictures, or heck if the deal is agreeable between us. I'd rather spend 100 k on a nice dinner and waste it vs bringing a dud to my hotel room. Plus after hanging out for a bit the sessions are much nicer, unrushed, etc.
During my recent trip last Mo I frequented few usual sugar-babies, but did acquire 2 new ones, one asked for 700 k pesos for a few hours of meeting, I declined and countered with 300 k and she said it was too low. I replied and asked her do you want repeat business? Why are you trying to get rich so quick jajaj? She replied laughing also and said you're right, and accepted the offer and we met twice and now in my roster for repeat biz. Paid her 400 k each time, plus few small gifts from nearby shops, and had a fancy lunch date. Sometimes you have to teach them. You make the terms. And I go full bareback w my SA honeys, stay away from my girls LOL.
JT Traviezo
09-25-22, 07:04
Greetings fellow mongers. New to the thread. I'm considering taking a trip to Colombia probably Bogota for cheap sex. I've been reading thru all the posts on here and I have yet to hear about crime. I read a post from an expat in the philippines section that he witnessed or heard of many crimes during his short visit in Colombia. Have any of you, or heard of any mongers, encountered any type of crime such as robbery, assault, drugged by the WG's? If you haven't experienced any, how have you been able to avoid the crime? Thanks.
I've seen a lot of posts here about using FB and SA in Medellin. I saw that there is a guide on how to use FB but was wondering if there is a similar guide for SA. Most of my mongering is done through photoprepagos and mileroticos with some spa action mixed in but based off what I have read here it seems that FB and SA give some really good opportunities too. Main questions I have are:
1. What do you message them at first? Should you just say I am looking for a PPM arrangement, what are your rates and what do you do? Or is it more subtle?
2. Should I message first or wait for girls to add me?
3. How soon before my trip should I start messaging?
Thanks.I am newbie and planning to travel in Dec, can you please point me to the FB guide. Also how is ccolumbiacupid for SA.
I'm wondering why the heck they ask personal trip related questions? None of their business. I understand if those questions were asked once you enter Colombia, by Colombian authorities, but entering USA? Wtf. Of course, they can search my luggage, ask me if I need to declare anything, etc. But going through my phone / laptop, asking what I did in Colombia, etc makes no sense. What happens in Colombia stays in Colombia.Some stuff that may happen in Colombia is their business. The personal questions relate to those things.
It happened to me three times, first in Atlanta and twice in Orlando. The questions were, are you married? Does your family know about your trip? Why do you go to the same place if you are a tourist? I answered that my friend owns a BNB and I am a sleeping partner. I also said Medellin is our common meeting place for all my friends all over the USA. The officer questioned me with attitude and visibly in an unfriendly manner. Honestly, I am still scrambling for a solid answer since I visit MDE three times a year. Any suggestion? And sorry, I can't tell "for pussy".My answer is.
"I love it there. The people are great, the climate is perfect and everything is inexpensive."
What's the best casa in terms of quality, when money is not an issue?What is your definition of quality? Unfortunately, Medellin does not work that way. Higher price does not mean better service.
What's the best casa in terms of quality, when money is not an issue?I suggest Loutron which is up in the hills outside of Poblado and Energy Spa which is in Laureles near the stadium. They tend to have the better looking women by conventional Paisa standards.
PepolesBuddy
09-25-22, 20:55
Greetings fellow mongers. New to the thread. I'm considering taking a trip to Colombia probably Bogota for cheap sex. I've been reading thru all the posts on here and I have yet to hear about crime. I read a post from an expat in the philippines section that he witnessed or heard of many crimes during his short visit in Colombia. Have any of you, or heard of any mongers, encountered any type of crime such as robbery, assault, drugged by the WG's? If you haven't experienced any, how have you been able to avoid the crime? Thanks.Crime here is like farting and is extremely common. Look at mr woodmans post about a drugging attempt.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=340339&d=1663889275
I myself had my phone pick pocketed once. I've been back-and-forth since 2017. Is the risk worth the reward it depends🤷127995;8205;9794;65039;.
Here's another reference about extortion that happened.
https://youtu.be/Byf3QGlNLyc
I don't care what anyone says mde is not a safe city. You always have to be on guard and 80% of locals are out to swindle you. From restaurants / businesses overcharging their prices to gringos. To in good cases you just get your phone / wallet stolen to horrible cases you getting drugged and possibly losing a kidney.
In case people don't know how to do this. If you take mutually-consenting + legal photos or videos in Colombia, you still should protect it on the way back to the US. I've already seen several reports of people getting their laptops or tablets getting searched by US officials on their return.
I keep all my data on Windows laptops, so I'm sure there are equivalents for Mac, iOS, Android. But two things I use are VeraCrypt which allows you to create an encrypted file container that requires a password to unlock and see the contents inside, and 7 zip, and use the Compression Level: Store, and check Encrypt File Names option. Both options are free and makes it very difficult to even know what's stored inside the file container. Could be your personal financial data? Could be vacation photos? Could be any various things not subject to random searches. Anyways as long as you're not doing illegal shit, it's not going to escalate to where something like a warrant is needed, so this level of protection would be sufficient.
I've had girls ask me to take nude photos for them and sent it to them on FB Messenger. Delete these too from your Messenger or WhatsApp conversation. If you want a personal copy, do the above.
AmorPorFavor
09-26-22, 01:04
Border agent / immigration used to ask me question upon re-etry, basic stuff like what was the purpose of my visit, etc. I normally give short answ like fam visit or tourism, then as soon as I got GE I never get asked anything. Few Months back an agent asked me as a joke and in a friendly manner "So tell me, how are the girls in Col". I replied and said you have to just go visit for yourself. In my mind you still can detain if I'm foolish enough to give you details LOL, he then laughed and said ah ok one day I'll go.I have GE. Coming back from Cuba one time the agent asked me if I had a Cubanita in my suitcase with a grin on his face. I said I wish and we both laughed. He knew exactly what I was up to and did not give a shit.
My answer is.
"I love it there. The people are great, the climate is perfect and everything is inexpensive."I am commenting on this so I remember it for later. Gracias.
LoveItHere69
09-26-22, 05:23
Greetings fellow mongers. New to the thread. I'm considering taking a trip to Colombia probably Bogota for cheap sex. I've been reading thru all the posts on here and I have yet to hear about crime. I read a post from an expat in the philippines section that he witnessed or heard of many crimes during his short visit in Colombia. Have any of you, or heard of any mongers, encountered any type of crime such as robbery, assault, drugged by the WG's? If you haven't experienced any, how have you been able to avoid the crime? Thanks.Try reading the F'ing Forum. Just two weeks ago Tasss mentioned getting extorted from a girl saying she was young so she could get money for nothing. Then I commented about one of her friends. Go read some of my past posts especially during the lockdown and one has a picture of blood after an afternoon knifing in the Botero tourist area.
Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?
First thing to know is that it's Illegal in the US for PPM (Pay per meet) arrangements. And yes there are law enforcement agencies w fake girls profile on SA just like they targeted Backpage few yrs back and still today use SA or other escort svc sites to lock up brain dead average Johns. Clearly SA isn't itself listed as an escort svc, but we know 99% of the participants are doing just that, tricking, escorting etc.
The purpose of SA is to establish a more of a long-term arrangement of wealthy men or women and compensate on a scheduled basis the sugar baby / dates w gifts or other forms. I post about this often, that we go so many times to Col and other countries where paying for sex is normal that we forget at times that we will go straight to jail for this back home.
- Meaning first, the PPM issue is VERY strict with SA itself, and they immediately prompt you with a message that says it is NOT allowed, and it's displayed on the site once you're logged in..
PadrePioDorco
09-26-22, 10:44
What is your definition of quality? Unfortunately, Medellin does not work that way. Higher price does not mean better service.Mostly look I guess. If you know any agency (or a fixer) that also vouch for good service let me know please.
Crime here is like farting and is extremely common. Look at mr woodmans post about a drugging attempt.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=340339&d=1663889275
I myself had my phone pick pocketed once. I've been back-and-forth since 2017. Is the risk worth the reward it depends🤷127995;8205;9794;65039;.
Here's another reference about extortion that happened.
https://youtu.be/Byf3QGlNLyc
I don't care what anyone says mde is not a safe city. You always have to be on guard and 80% of locals are out to swindle you. From restaurants / businesses overcharging their prices to gringos. To in good cases you just get your phone / wallet stolen to horrible cases you getting drugged and possibly losing a kidney.People post things like this all the time here on the forum. They support their theory by posting a link to an article or a video. But let's apply just a tiny bit of logic and critical thinking.
Let's suppose (since no one knows the exact numbers) that 1,000 times a day someone visiting Medellin or an ex-pat sees some lady for some pleasurable company. Out of those 1,000 encounters, one guy who was a little careless got drugged and robbed. Did the local papers report that there were 999 foreigners getting laid without incident? Of course not, the one incident that makes the papers is the guy who got drugged or assaulted etc.
Should you be paranoid that every girl you meet is out to scope (short for scopolamine) you and rob you? Again let's give it a little bit of critical thinking. In the casas? I bet you the answer would be 0 percent. The owners wouldn't tolerate it and they know who the girl is, since she works there they have her cedula and other information.
What about FB girls (or other girls that use an online presence) Possible but not very likely. Girls on FB that are looking for business don't want to be creating a new page after 1 incident. They prefer building a book of clientele that are regulars and you don't do that by drugging or robbing someone and having the word get out. Let's not kid ourselves, take normal precautions. Put any valuables away or in a safe or however you want to do it before you have a girl over to your place. Stay at a place that checks IDs. That leaves a record and also protects you from a later claim that the girl was not of age. Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back. Don't wear bling. If you really are insecure and need people to know how important / rich / successful you are. Call your mama and tell her.
Street girls? I don't really participate in that scene but my guess based on what I hear from others is that there isn't a large danger there but it is a greater risk that visiting a casa or booking a date with a FB (or other social media) girl.
[Deleted by Admin] The vast majority of Colombians are warm, friendly, welcoming people. But you do have to recognize that there is a sizeable portion of the population that are struggling. It you put temptation in their face they are likely to act on it. But if you come here to enjoy yourself and take normal common sense precautions you are highly unlikely to have any problems what so ever.
I say that as I am about to complete my third year living in Medellin as an ex-pat and a friend that I breakfast with regularly, has been here almost the identical amount of time and neither of us have had any incident at all. To counter balance a few of the reported incidents above that is almost 2,000 days of living incident free in Medellin.
MaddTraveler
09-26-22, 19:08
Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.
Just Incognito
09-26-22, 21:20
I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.I tell chicas I want them tested and offer to pay for their test. They have to send me photos / video with me when they are at the clinic, then bring the receipt with them to our next or first meeting. And I pay them for the. Test--I also get tested and since I already had a vasectomy (best decision ever). Then we are all comfortable and good to go.
I have been bareback with 5 different seeking chicks and a couple from facebook along with some others I networked over time. I only meet with chicks I can comfortably and safely go bareback with.
I pay for it. I make it happen. And it works for me.
I decided I don't like condoms. If a chick can't get us al lset to be bareback without worries: meaning she won't get tested--then, I don't want her. Plenty of fish in these seas who can prove they have no stds.
People post things like this all the time here on the forum. They support their theory by posting a link to an article or a video. But let's apply just a tiny bit of logic and critical thinking.
Let's suppose (since no one knows the exact numbers) that 1,000 times a day someone visiting Medellin or an ex-pat sees some lady for some pleasurable company. Out of those 1,000 encounters, one guy who was a little careless got drugged and robbed. Did the local papers report that there were 999 foreigners getting laid without incident? Of course not, the one incident that makes the papers is the guy who got drugged or assaulted etc.
Should you be paranoid that every girl you meet is out to scope (short for scopolamine) you and rob you? Again let's give it a little bit of critical thinking. In the casas? I bet you the answer would be 0 percent. The owners wouldn't tolerate it and they know who the girl is, since she works there they have her cedula and other information.
What about FB girls (or other girls that use an online presence) Possible but not very likely. Girls on FB that are looking for business don't want to be creating a new page after 1 incident. They prefer building a book of clientele that are regulars and you don't do that by drugging or robbing someone and having the word get out. Let's not kid ourselves, take normal precautions. Put any valuables away or in a safe or however you want to do it before you have a girl over to your place. Stay at a place that checks IDs. That leaves a record and also protects you from a later claim that the girl was not of age. Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back. Don't wear bling. If you really are insecure and need people to know how important / rich / successful you are. Call your mama and tell her.
Street girls? I don't really participate in that scene but my guess based on what I hear from others is that there isn't a large danger there but it is a greater risk that visiting a casa or booking a date with a FB (or other social media) girl.
The vast majority of Colombians are warm, friendly, welcoming people. But you do have to recognize that there is a sizeable portion of the population that are struggling. It you put temptation in their face they are likely to act on it. But if you come here to enjoy yourself and take normal common sense precautions you are highly unlikely to have any problems what so ever.
I say that as I am about to complete my third year living in Medellin as an ex-pat and a friend that I breakfast with regularly, has been here almost the identical amount of time and neither of us have had any incident at all. To counter balance a few of the reported incidents above that is almost 2,000 days of living incident free in Medellin.OK, I just had two friends, (one lives here and the other has visited several times) message me and tell me that they have been robbed. These two friends aren't careless or show-offs or anything of the like. So, I'll back-pedal what I said. Medellin can be a little more dangerous than I let on. I guess places like Phillipines or Thailand are safer.
So I went to Centro today with exactly 40 k COP and enough on my seeívica card to get home. I started my search at the veracruz church area. First girl I approached was a vennie standing in front of botero real. She said she wanted 40 k to which I replied "tengo exactamente 40 mil, entonces pago la pieza why lo que sobra es para ti" but she declined my offer and said she wanted 40 k and I pay the room aparte, ok gracias pero no gracias bitxh and onto the next chica.
I then found a real small petite paisa who was standing on the opposite side of the pedestrian walkway leaning up against the wall of the church. She quoted me 30 k plus the pieza! Score and I even saved 2 k COP! We went to Botero Real walking right past the first stuck up bitxh LOL her loss right?
Turned out to be a 23 year old paisa with dyed red hair real small like 90 lbs. If that. Absolutely great service, DATY, CBJ, and CFS till I popped. Multiple positions, finished in the "acostada bocabajo" position tapping her ass as hard as I could until I finally reached the goal.
Best part only 30 k COP and 8 k COP for the room with 2 k left over for a limonada in parque berrio afterwards.
And the stuck up vennie was still outside standing in front of the hotel like a dumbass when the paisa and I came out LOL.
I tell them hey take your shirt off, then I rub their back all bare.And then you waive 50,000 and 100,000 COP bills in their faces and Walla you will be penetrating them deep and raw. LOL.
Then the question my arise as to where the leche is going to be deposited, and perhaps things are getting a little more complicated, but not much! LOL.
It's not Hocus-Pocos, or Rocket Science for sure if that's what your looking for.
AmorPorFavor
09-27-22, 00:35
Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?Find one who likes you and wants to have sex with you. Spend a long time with her, I usually find one to spend a few days with, then lose your hard on when she puts the condom on (like when you are out of leche) and tell her you don't like condoms. Works well for me.
MaddTraveler
09-27-22, 03:24
Obvious huge difference between the two, sport fucking vs making love to a woman!
These girls fuck for money, with no emotions at first, no love for you. And we know women can easily do that with a smile because it's in their nature.
How do us men turn that around in this hobby from having quick mechanical sex to more GFE type stuff?
How can we get a non-pro overseas half our ages to fall in love with us, or like us enough to allow bareback sex?
The answer is even trained pros can provide GFE, because it can also be an act. Also many doesn't care for those or care for "emotional connections".
But real GFE obviously will be from a non pro or less experienced girl who genuinely likes you.
Some men and women sadly write books and blogs / vlogs on this, how to pick up women blah blah. And sadly many men thinks and believes by reading a guide it will help them on their game.
The answer No it won't. Stop it. No one can guide you to find love. Because that's what true GFE is, a level or step in that area. There are zero real recipes for it, no rules, no one-size fits all, no tricks, no pick up lines.
Anything of sorts you read is BS.
Not BS in the sense the author lied, it's BS in the sense that there are no TWO individuals alike on this planet. Meaning what worked for John Doe 1, will not work for John Doe 2.
Just cause I used a pick up line on a girl and it worked, it doesn't mean you can use the same line to make her laugh or pick her up in the same manner. Also us fools many thinks it's the line the girls fall for.
When really she just likes your cheesy ass.
Also We don't have the same look, status, charisma, same facial expression, body language, chemistry, connections, style, heights, hygiene, etc.
Girls fall for the most random things. The best advice is always be yourself, unless you yourself is an ahole then you don't want to be that. . ok Kidding!
Clearly we can all improve, but such improvement isn't to attain others otherwise it's fake. We have to work on ourselves first truly whether it's personality, confidence building, wealth, lifestyle (ie weight, look).
We improve and manage whatever is manageable as many things are out of our control, and not focus on what we cannot.
With my non pros I use a little romance here and there, have actual conversations that's not related to sex, jack off first if you have to before your date (old trick).
Genuinely wine and dine them, build actual friendships, and oh yeah I tutor some of them and teach / guide them on businesses, how to trade, set up webcams, LOL.
Treat them like a human being and BAAMMMMM. Oh shit they no longer see me as an ATM machine and sincerely.
Wants to fuck me and have my baby or baby twins / triplets when I nut twice or three times in them during the nights.
As always let's continue this Fuckery in this motherfucker.
I tell chicas I want them tested and offer to pay for their test. They have to send me photos / video with me when they are at the clinic, then bring the receipt with them to our next or first meeting. And I pay them for the. Test--I also get tested and since I already had a vasectomy (best decision ever). Then we are all comfortable and good to go.
I have been bareback with 5 different seeking chicks and a couple from facebook along with some others I networked over time. I only meet with chicks I can comfortably and safely go bareback with.
I pay for it. I make it happen. And it works for me.
I decided I don't like condoms. If a chick can't get us al lset to be bareback without worries: meaning she won't get tested--then, I don't want her. Plenty of fish in these seas who can prove they have no stds.No centro girl ig going to do all that.
Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?Offer her an extra 50 k.
Find one who likes you and wants to have sex with you. Spend a long time with her, I usually find one to spend a few days with, then lose your hard on when she puts the condom on (like when you are out of leche) and tell her you don't like condoms. Works well for me.These answers are all wrong.
Forever 18 here is what you do bro.
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).
2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.
3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?
4.) the answer you are looking for is "cuanto" to which you should reply with a number 50 k higher than the original agreed upon amount (80 k for a 30 k girl, etc.).
5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.
6.) you now have permission to go raw.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho Out.
Mr Enternational
09-27-22, 13:43
Under no circumstances do you leave your drink unattended. Need to use the bathroom? Take your drink with you, or get a fresh drink when you come back. Or better yet, stop drinking. One thing all these cases have is common is the person was drinking. Has anybody that does not drink or was not drinking at the time they were with chicks ever been drugged?
These answers are all wrong.
Forever 18 here is what you do bro.
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).
2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.
3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?.A couple of comments about this as someone might think your serious. LOL.
Your fluent in Spanish and a lot of guys won't be able to talk there way thru all your steps which you can do blindfolded. If this service is negotiated after your in the room naked it's probably going to cost more versus if negotiated before entering the room.
And as far as going down on Centro SW's, at least ones you've never been with before, I don't know about that.
Let's say you enter the room, the girl gets naked, and removes a wad of toilet paper from her pussy. I know your not going to munching on that pussy, and probably not even if she takes a shower beforehand.
Typically what guys do in Centro, is they negotiate the "deal" beforehand, before going upstairs versus in the room.
Bringing it up in the room could be very problematic, especially for those with no Spanish speaking skills, and if somebody say's they will use a translator to muddle thru it, well good luck.
For guy's contemplating a bare-back session with a Centro SW, the better route for most guys would be to negotiate it up front.
And I know you know that.
Mr Enternational
09-27-22, 16:27
How can we get a non-pro overseas half our ages to fall in love with us, or like us enough to allow bareback sex?Can you write a book about it? Because I sure can't. I just be myself. Some chicks will dig me, and some won't. I don't have any of that science and testing shit behind it.
Started talking to a chick online 2 days ago. I told her I am tired of chicks begging for money. She said some people are uneducated like that. We talked about going out then I said why don't you cook for me instead. She said she did not have a problem with that.
Yesterday I arrived in her country and she told me to pick her up from work at 4 pm. I arrived at 5:30 pm. We went straight to my Airbnb and started fucking BB. Then she said she has 10 days of vacation that she will take to be with me. I said I am not going to be here that long. (And I was thinking I have other chicks to get to. This is exactly why I don't tell chicks when I am arriving or departing. I don't want them being able to plan taking up my time.) After that we went out to eat then went to have a drink. We came back and fucked some more and went to sleep.
Now it is 11:13 am and we are out eating breakfast. She is waiting on Indriver to come because she has to take her daughter to the doctor. I did not plan this and I did not use any methods and I did not say let's go take some tests. It just happened. I swear that I don't even know this chick's name. And she looks like Cardi B.
MaddTraveler
09-27-22, 18:36
These answers are all wrong.
Forever 18 here is what you do bro.
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).
2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.
3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?.Dude, real story. Few months back I was in El Centro and met another Gringo at Nutibara and he needed help finding girls in that area that would bareback. He spoke zero Spanish so I had him just write what he wanted on this phone, already translated, and bro it was so funny watching him just walking up to chicas in Centro just showing his phone w the message "Me gustaria todo al naturale, oral why vaginal, puedo pagar 100 Mil en total" "esta bien? I gave him that line. So I notice some would shake their head with no, laugh, or reply with counter but w no Spanish he only wanted a hard yes. So it takes usually 5 sometimes 10 girls and would get a yes, he'd turn around and give me a nod yo I'm good, then would disappear for an HR to go tear that ass up raw. There. Nothing to it. Non pros or SA girls requires for finesses / cheesy time spend etc.
LoveItHere69
09-27-22, 18:41
People post things like this all the time here on the forum. They support their theory by posting a link to an article or a video. But let's apply just a tiny bit of logic and critical thinking.
Street girls? I don't really participate in that scene but my guess based on what I hear from others is that there isn't a large danger there but it is a greater risk that visiting a casa or booking a date with a FB (or other social media) girl.
I guess places like Philippines or Thailand are safer.I am short, travel alone and do mostly street. 1 month Thailand, 3 years Philippines in several cities, 2 years Colombia in several cities. I am comparing street girls to street girls and the areas you find them in one country to the areas you find them in the other. Colombian street girls are 50-100% more problematic than Thailand or Philippines. Being robbed or hurt by someone is about 500% higher. This is not based on any articles or stories told to me. This is based on what has happened to me and what I have seen live and in color.
You applied logic and critical thinking and your guess is that street girls are an equal danger to FB, casa, and bar girls. Listen up then. Street girls are the most problematic and are many times found in less than ideal hunting venues. You need to recalibrate your brain. Tasss mentioned the FB girl that threatened him with the underage thing to basically rob him of no service. That girl originated from Centro so she started as a street girl.
Your buddies are not going to brag about bad stuff happening to them, but if you ask them direct questions you will be surprised by their answers. You are giving wrong guesses that could get someone hurt or at a minimum ruin their vacation.
PigSavinBoy
09-27-22, 18:50
how you convince the girl to go bareback
waive 50,000
Offer her an extra 50 k.Gents don't ruin the market LOL! 20-30 mil is often enough. That's what some centro girls actually proposed first and what I also offered and paid several times.
It's best to negotiate once the clothes are off, so she can see the dick (would you agree to eat pussy of random chica that approached you on the street, without seeing it first?
Anyway, unless the session is long, 50 mil is 'crazy money' just for bareback in my book, but I agree, it should definitely be more than enough and do the trick with centro girl.
John Gault
09-27-22, 21:28
Or better yet, stop drinking. One thing all these cases have is common is the person was drinking. Has anybody that does not drink or was not drinking at the time they were with chicks ever been drugged?A long time ago your posts sometimes annoyed me. You have stepped up your game with no nonsense posts.
Let me add booze affects your testosterone levels and vitamin V.
Mr Enternational
09-27-22, 22:54
A long time ago your posts sometimes annoyed me. You have stepped up your game with no nonsense posts.LOL. JG I am the same old guy. Nothing has change!
You just tell them what you want and what you will pay. It is not complicated.
Works with FB girls. I would think twice before asking a street girl from El Centro. Then again to each their own.
Can you tell a story of how you convince the girl to go bareback with you, my sensai?.
Mojo Bandit
09-28-22, 03:13
These answers are all wrong.
Forever 18 here is what you do bro.
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).
2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.
3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?
4.) the answer you are looking for is "cuanto" to which you should reply with a number 50 k higher than the original agreed upon amount (80 k for a 30 k girl, etc.).
5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.
6.) you now have permission to go raw.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho Out.You left out Step 7.) - so I have included a meme to explain step 7.).
A couple of comments about this as someone might think your serious. LOL.
Your fluent in Spanish and a lot of guys won't be able to talk there way thru all your steps which you can do blindfolded. If this service is negotiated after your in the room naked it's probably going to cost more versus if negotiated before entering the room.
And as far as going down on Centro SW's, at least ones you've never been with before, I don't know about that.
Let's say you enter the room, the girl gets naked, and removes a wad of toilet paper from her pussy. I know your not going to munching on that pussy, and probably not even if she takes a shower beforehand.
Typically what guys do in Centro, is they negotiate the "deal" beforehand, before going upstairs versus in the room..I cordially disagree.
If you negotiate it outside the girl will have pena especially if she is with a group of friends because she isn't going to want her other friends to hear that she is working sin preservativo. I've had a success rate of about 75% using this method with most girls going for 80 k - 100 k range.
And I was going down on a SW (first time encuentro) the other day and she had a tampon in her totona LOL. I had her remove it and then went back to munching LOL. The blood was minimal and much less of a concern than the stupid tampon LOL.
You left out Step 7.) - so I have included a meme to explain step 7.).Vasectomy since 2008 bud.
John Clayton
09-28-22, 03:42
I walked over to Lleras park to check it out. It's pretty torn up. I can't imagine hanging out anywhere near there right now.
A couple of comments about this as someone might think your serious. LOL.
Your fluent in Spanish and a lot of guys won't be able to talk there way thru all your steps which you can do blindfolded. If this service is negotiated after your in the room naked it's probably going to cost more versus if negotiated before entering the room.
And as far as going down on Centro SW's, at least ones you've never been with before, I don't know about that.
Let's say you enter the room, the girl gets naked, and removes a wad of toilet paper from her pussy. I know your not going to munching on that pussy, and probably not even if she takes a shower beforehand.
Typically what guys do in Centro, is they negotiate the "deal" beforehand, before going upstairs versus in the room.
Bringing it up in the room could be very problematic, especially for those with no Spanish speaking skills, and if somebody say's they will use a translator to muddle thru it, well good luck..Oh and another thing, a few months back weren't there a bunch of guys on the board here saying that they don't need any Spanish skills to seal the deal in Centro?
Now all the sudden the truth comes out that Spanish skills are in fact necessary to get what you want in this market, or I guess you could go around with your phone like Maddtraveler's buddy did. Or better yet just write the phrase on a cardboard sign like the homeless people in the US do to ask for money and just flash your cardboard sign at all the chicas? Jajajajajaja.
For u non Spanish speakers just print this out and carry it with you to Centro...
Had fun reading this. You are absolutely spot on ( and I don’t mean the part about centro chicas or money)
The key is to turn the paisa 'ON' before you dole out your wish list.
These answers are all wrong.
Forever 18 here is what you do bro.
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).
2.) After you both get undressed you have her lay down and you directly proceed to perform DATY.
3.) After a few moments of DATY you stop and you look up at her and you repeat this phrase in Spanish: "amor, si te pago mas, podemos hacerlo sin preservativo?
4.) the answer you are looking for is "cuanto" to which you should reply with a number 50 k higher than the original agreed upon amount (80 k for a 30 k girl, etc.).
5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.
6.) you now have permission to go raw.
Hope this helps.
Gabacho Out.
Dude, real story. .... So it takes usually 5 sometimes 10 girls and would get a yes, ...Because that is how it works usually for most. It is not a certainty. Negotiate before you pay for the room, otherwise you are rolling the dice.
Oh and another thing, a few months back weren't there a bunch of guys on the board here saying that they don't need any Spanish skills to seal the deal in Centro?
Now all the sudden the truth comes out that Spanish skills are in fact necessary to get what you want in this market,......As far as don't need ANY Spanish skills goes, I think it is not a bunch of guys. It was Mr E and I can back him up on that, and also the best fried chicken part LOL, but that does not mean anyone can do it.
If you add some context, then it is easier to reach consensus. If someone just wants to fuck, it requires very little Spanish. If you must have BBFS, than you probably need more Spanish.
Because that is how it works usually for most. It is not a certainty. Negotiate before you pay for the room, otherwise you are rolling the dice.Worse case scenario she doesn't agree and you have to keep the rubber on and you save some money. It's not the end of the world.
John Clayton
09-28-22, 14:43
I walked over to Lleras park to check it out. It's pretty torn up. I can't imagine hanging out anywhere near there right now.I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?
I cordially disagree.
If you negotiate it outside the girl will have pena especially if she is with a group of friends because she isn't going to want her other friends to hear that she is working sin preservativo. I've had a success rate of about 75% using this method with most girls going for 80 k - 100 k range.There's a group of guys I know that would vehemently disagree with you about negotiating in the room versus beforehand for BBFS.
The biggest reason being is that they don't want to go with a girl, and then find out in the room that she won't agree to it. And then typically the session turns out to not be that great. So their thinking is that when they want BBFS, they don't want it to be hit or miss. And sometimes after getting in the room and guys are laying out what they want, some girls will not be happy campers, hence a bad session can happen, and nobody likes those.
And another reason guys don't negotiate in the room is because the girl is in a better position inside the room versus on the street when it comes to what it's going to cost.
And the guys I know always tell me is never, ever, negotiate BBFS with a girl in front of anyone else for reasons you have pointed out.
And I was going down on a SW (first time encuentro) the other day and she had a tampon in her totona LOL. I had her remove it and then went back to munching LOL. The blood was minimal and much less of a concern than the stupid tampon LOL.I don't know if your really being serious here, and don't take this the wrong way if you are, but very few guys are going down on girls when they are on their period. Or maybe I'm just old school, or perhaps missed the memo. LOL.
If someone just wants to fuck, it requires very little Spanish. If you must have BBFS, than you probably need more Spanish.What your saying is very true.
It's true, you can get by with no Spanish speaking skills in obtaining BBFS, but it's can become quite a bit complicated at times having to use a translator, or something written.
Some guys I know have told me that most of the SW's that offer BBFS don't like being cream pied.
So imagine a guy with no Spanish speaking skills is barebacking a SW and comes inside of her and she freaks outs as she told him outside. Perhaps she was yelling "leche afuera", and the guy was clueless as to what was being said, and perhaps this detail was not understood or even brought up beforehand, he might of thought she was yelling Giddy Up, Giddy Up, LOL.
Maybe this isn't the best example, but it illustrates what your saying.
I would absolutely pay to watch someone walk around Centro with that sign. The reactions would be entertaining. I also think it would bring multiple offers.
Oh and another thing, a few months back weren't there a bunch of guys on the board here saying that they don't need any Spanish skills to seal the deal in Centro?
Now all the sudden the truth comes out that Spanish skills are in fact necessary to get what you want in this market, or I guess you could go around with your phone like Maddtraveler's buddy did. Or better yet just write the phrase on a cardboard sign like the homeless people in the US do to ask for money and just flash your cardboard sign at all the chicas? Jajajajajaja.
For u non Spanish speakers just print this out and carry it with you to Centro...
I guess I should not be surprised I have to say this. I recommend all negotiations take place away from groups of other people. I also agree it is better to negotiate before entering a room.
I cordially disagree.
If you negotiate it outside the girl will have pena especially if she is with a group of friends because she isn't going to want her other friends to hear that she is working sin preservativo. I've had a success rate of about 75% using this method with most girls going for 80 k - 100 k range.
And I was going down on a SW (first time encuentro) the other day and she had a tampon in her totona LOL. I had her remove it and then went back to munching LOL. The blood was minimal and much less of a concern than the stupid tampon LOL.
Because that is how it works usually for most. It is not a certainty. Negotiate before you pay for the room, otherwise you are rolling the dice.I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.
Check the surrounding streets beginning with la 10. You will also find them at the entrances of and inside Gustos and similar nearby businesses. Enjoy your time with them.
I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?
Think of Spanish knowledge as a tool that makes a job easier. The job at hand is pulling girls. If you know Spanish it is easier and more efficient to use it to pull girls rather than a translation app or non verbal gestures. It's no different than using a hammer to get a nail into a piece of wood rather than a shoe heel or other object. In either case you will achieve the objective but it is easier and faster with the advantage of the tool. Suggestions that guys who don't speak Spanish and come to Medellin will leave with blueballs is misleading to say the least.
As far as don't need ANY Spanish skills goes, I think it is not a bunch of guys. It was Mr E and I can back him up on that, and also the best fried chicken part LOL, but that does not mean anyone can do it.
If you add some context, then it is easier to reach consensus. If someone just wants to fuck, it requires very little Spanish. If you must have BBFS, than you probably need more Spanish.
LoveItHere69
09-28-22, 18:19
You find a 30 k centro girl.
After in the room:
1.) you insist on paying after is she asks for money upfront (if she never asks for payment upfront skip to step 2).How strange that I always read guys stating to best get everything (money being the most important) agreed to whether it be with a FB, strip club, casa, or street girl before asking her to jump in the taxi or taking her to the supplied room or taking her to a hotel. Even in other countries the advice is the same. So all these countless guys using all these different formats to get girls and in all these different countries are wrong.
Yes. If you like drama this is the way to do it!
I'm wondering where the women who did hang out around Parque LLeras are now?Arrived in Medellin yesterday on a spur of the moment trip.
Centro was great for me. Saw some chicas from previous trips and lots of new ones.
BB was always available if that's what I wanted. I almost always bring that up with girls I haven't seen before, during the chat before we go to the room, if that's what I want.
Fun times.
Parque Lleras was fun to walk about as well.
It was amusing to me that the girls on the street were asking for 300 mil. LOL.
Most easily went down in price with little negotiation.
Most just hope you're a naive gringo and that you'll accept their 300 mil price.
Lots of lower level type chicas in Lleras IMO, some scattered hot ones.
I would say 90% don't even get talked to by guys.
Several girls I talked with in Centro said they stopped going to Lleras, saying there are too many girls and mostly don't get any business.
Higher price paid means nothing in regard to the service you'll receive, and often it's reverse of what you might think.
Enjoy.
Truth bombs blowing up all over the Medellin forum today.
Arrived in Medellin yesterday on a spur of the moment trip.
Centro was great for me. Saw some chicas from previous trips and lots of new ones.
BB was always available if that's what I wanted. I almost always bring that up with girls I haven't seen before, during the chat before we go to the room, if that's what I want.
Fun times.
Parque Lleras was fun to walk about as well.
It was amusing to me that the girls on the street were asking for 300 mil. LOL.
Most easily went down in price with little negotiation.
Most just hope you're a naive gringo and that you'll accept their 300 mil price.
Lots of lower level type chicas in Lleras IMO, some scattered hot ones.
I would say 90% don't even get talked to by guys.
Several girls I talked with in Centro said they stopped going to Lleras, saying there are too many girls and mostly don't get any business.
Higher price paid means nothing in regard to the service you'll receive, and often it's reverse of what you might think.
Enjoy.
Yes, and to take it a step further there are girls who will say no to going to the room while in public but if you pull them aside they will agree to it.
I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.
How strange that I always read guys stating to best get everything (money being the most important) agreed to whether it be with a FB, strip club, casa, or street girl before asking her to jump in the taxi or taking her to the supplied room or taking her to a hotel. Even in other countries the advice is the same. So all these countless guys using all these different formats to get girls and in all these different countries are wrong.
Yes. If you like drama this is the way to do it!Ok let's say everyone else is right and I'm wrong.
Every girl that would say yes in the street will still say yes in the room. There are going to be some that say no in the street but will say yes in the room. So if the girl would have said yes to begin with what is the difference? And if it was a girl that would have been ashamed to say yes in the street but would say yes en la pieza then you would have missed your opportunity with that girl, entonces usted me diga, que va a perder?
Here is a screen shot of a chica I barebacked with yesterday specifically telling me not to mention what we did yesterday to her friend. So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?
But you know what I'm done wasting my time, you go ahead and do it your way and I'll do it my way. There is no wrong way to monger.
I would absolutely pay to watch someone walk around Centro with that sign. The reactions would be entertaining. I also think it would bring multiple offers.Yes indeed it would be entertaining. I suppose if one where to do it, they could walk around in front of the Veracruz Church area, display the sign, and then go stand say opposite the glass covered walkway. And I envision some very desperate girls approaching the guy with the sign, albeit it's not going to be the cream of the crop approaching the guy. Another area to walk around with the sign is around Botero Park near the entrance to the Museum.
A sign would definitely work, and could attract a lot of attention, albeit the SW's would most probably through out a huge price for the services, unless it was a Sacalero or other fucked up SW.
But again, I don't think the guy is going to like what approaches him.
I guess I should not be surprised I have to say this. I recommend all negotiations take place away from groups of other people. I also agree it is better to negotiate before entering a room.A lot of the time they stand in groups in the stairways of the hotels and even in Plaza Botero they are usually in groups of 2 or 3.
You frame the bet toward your advantage. I call that rolling the dice.
I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be some girls that will say no in public that will say yes in the room. And by using your method you would be missing out on those girls.
You framed it differently here. That is why some of us thought you were joking.
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5.) then she will reply "esta bien" "vale" "dale" "ok" something along those lines.....
If the girl wants to be paid first after in the room, she could just walk out when you tried to negotiate with her.
I had BBFS with the last Centro girl that I went with recently without negotiation or upsell. LOL.
You frame the bet toward your advantage. I call that rolling the dice.
You framed it differently here. That is why some of us thought you were joking.
If the girl wants to be paid first after in the room, she could just walk out when you tried to negotiate with her.
I had BBFS with the last Centro girl that I went with recently without negotiation or upsell. LOL.Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know. And if she absolutely won't agree on BBFS then it will be a normal session for the original amount agreed upon before entering the room. Like I said my success rate is about 75% for me when using this method. There are always going to be stubborn ones that won't agree to BBFS no matter what and in that case it will be CFS. That doesn't necessarily mean it will be a bad session. A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsell.
That is right, and that is why I recommend you ask the girl that interests you to step away for a private conversation.
A lot of the time they stand in groups in the stairways of the hotels and even in Plaza Botero they are usually in groups of 2 or 3.
I have a naughty thought in my head. Please tell me whether this or pigs will fly.
During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and tell them that I will pay for an hour but the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour with me just observing and not partaking.
Cackle.
Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.
Any comments?
Apart from imposing physicality or linguistic expertise, payment after service is the leading practice and generally accepted principle. My advice to guys who get requests for upfront payment is to walk away and choose one of the majority of providers who accept it after the fact. If you are in a casa or mileroticos casa type setting, payment up front is more acceptable and less risky.
Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know. And if she absolutely won't agree on BBFS then it will be a normal session for the original amount agreed upon before entering the room. Like I said my success rate is about 75% for me when using this method. There are always going to be stubborn ones that won't agree to BBFS no matter what and in that case it will be CFS. That doesn't necessarily mean it will be a bad session. A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsell.
I have a naughty thought in my head. Please tell me whether this or pigs will fly.
During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and tell them that I will pay for an hour but the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour with me just observing and not partaking.
Cackle.
Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.
Any comments?I don't know about casa's but I've been approached by a few pair of girls in Centro who wanted to do a trio, but never pursued it.
Your best bet will be to find a pair of lesbians, as it's one thing for a guy to take two girls too the room and bang them both versus two girls doing one another. And there are pairs of girls in Centro who will provide what your looking for, but this is another case of you better have some good Spanish speaking skills on this one, more so than for BBFS as there could easily be some misunderstandings.
There are guy's doing exactly what you want to do and some of them rave about it.
JohnnyWalker55
09-29-22, 23:13
Just to add to this, pretty much every sw at botero / veracruz will DATY / BBBJ /69 if you offer 20-25 k more. Especially vennies in front or on the side of the museum. I usually wait till I'm in the room to ask. Start at 10 k though, and make sure they shower first lmao.
9/10 will have a musty coochie from standing in the sun all day (I know some of you are into that).
LoveItHere69
09-29-22, 23:35
Ok let's say everyone else is right and I'm wrong.
Every girl that would say yes in the street will still say yes in the room. There are going to be some that say no in the street but will say yes in the room. So if the girl would have said yes to begin with what is the difference? And if it was a girl that would have been ashamed to say yes in the street but would say yes en la pieza then you would have missed your opportunity with that girl, entonces usted me diga, que va a perder?
Here is a screen shot of a chica I barebacked with yesterday specifically telling me not to mention what we did yesterday to her friend. So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?
But you know what I'm done wasting my time, you go ahead and do it your way and I'll do it my way. There is no wrong way to monger.I agree that the condom no condom can change once in the room once she is away from her friends and she can see you are clean. My argument was to get the pay first pay after agreed before even going to the hotel and especially before entering the room. Once in the room some girls demand payment first and if you try to walk out she may cause a scene. Yes I have had it happen. She changed the rules once in the room.
During my next visit to casas and may be even in centro, I want to pick up two girls who are OK with each other and the main condition is that at first they need to have sex with each other for full half an hour
Not sure about success in centro but I think I may succeed in getting my wish at casas.
No problem at all. Plenty are bi -sexual and have done that type of thing many times. I guess you'd need to ask the Mama, if you don't know the girls beforehand.
... So you tell me bud, if she was with her group of friends and you asked her in front of them if she would do it, do you think she would be willing to say yes in front of them?....Like others have mentioned that is not a problem. Just pull her aside so your conversation won't be overheard by her friends. You are fluent in Spanish, you should not have any problem like many of us might have 😂.
Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. ....It's not about if you pay up front or not. It's about losing leverage if you try to negotiate after you already pay for the room. It just a simple example and I am not saying it happens often. It takes a few seconds outside vs a few minutes in the room and the possible drama.
I had a new girl came to my place. She asked for condom but I said your agent said you provide oral natural. She said no, and I have to pull out the messages to convince her.
...A few days ago I had a CFS session that was excellent with a small petite 23 year old paisa I found standing across from El Botero Real. And congrats on getting it without an upsell. I had a candy girl like last year (or maybe back in January, csnt remember) that also didn't upsel...I have been wondering why were you getting a CBJ and I guessed that was a test drive or sacrifice fly with a another visit planned that is when you get BBFS. If that is the case, your approach is more complicated than you described but that is a smart way to optimize cost. Your percentage needs to be adjusted to account for it.
Mostly look I guess. If you know any agency (or a fixer) that also vouch for good service let me know please.This is your answer. Others that commonly mentioned here are La Isla and Fase Dos that are strip clubs with room on site.
I suggest Loutron which is up in the hills outside of Poblado and Energy Spa which is in Laureles near the stadium. They tend to have the better looking women by conventional Paisa standards.
ProPooper98
09-30-22, 05:38
Hey guys,
Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.
Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks!
Hi All,
Just got my subscription and I would like to build a facebook list as I am traveling in Dec. I have read several pages on how to add girls, can anyone please PM me an initial list which I can use to to find more girls. Again thanks for the information you are providing in this thread.
It's not about if you pay up front or not. It's about losing leverage if you try to negotiate after you already pay for the room. It just a simple example and I am not saying it happens often. It takes a few seconds outside vs a few minutes in the room and the possible drama.
There is another reason why BBFS is not negotiated outside the room by some guys which I don't think has been touched upon as of yet.
For some guy's it's how they monger, it's how they operate, or their technique of mongering after identifying a girl to see what unfolds in the room.
And sometimes there are some unexpected and welcome surprises that both you and Gabacho have encountered.
I personally like seeing what transpires in the room with the girl, yet make it clear that the BJ will be uncovered, and leave it at that.
And I, like both you and Gabacho have had some uncovered FS experiences that I hadn't expected which was a surprise.
The last time this happened I was told 30 K by a small Colombian spinner. I asked if the BJ was uncovered and was told of course which is a good sign.
And once in the room I laid a condom out, yet when it was time to ride me, she just hopped on board to my surprise with no mention of the condom.
I was a bit nervous about it, but my little head said yes so I had to comply. LOL.
So pinning down all the details and costs for BBFS beforehand is not how some mongers roll, where as for others it's mandatory.
Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.
Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks!"Quality girl". Here we go again. Haha. Quality for me is a girl that will have great sex w me for less than USD 10. So on that basis. Less than USD 10. Or maybe you mean a philosophy graduate? Possibly others might give you other answers. Hehe.
Maybe it's because I'm a bigger dude or the spanish or maybe just the way I carry myself, I don't know. But I very very rarely pay unfront, if a girl tries to charge me adelanto I always say "pago despues. " maybe you guys handle that differently, I don't know.I never pay upfront and I think size has nothing to do with it. Lol.
After the pre game chit chat we both know what's going on, and if I'm not feeling the vibe, I just move on.
Eazy Peazy.
Another day or so in Medellin and then off to Bogota.
The Vennies have been great!
Haven’t touched a Paisa yet, lol.
On my first trip to Medellin, I was happy with the outcome of meeting girls from Facebook. Yes, there were girls who chatted with me and said they would meet me but did not meet me. There were also girls who confirmed that they would meet me and then ghosted me. But it was far less than my online dating experience in the Philippines. On Facebook, girls usually had a fair number of pictures and most looked like their pictures when they showed up. Most of the girls that I saw were semi-pros or at least girls who denied that they were escorts but were open to pay for play when they need money. Generally I offered 200 to 250 mil for 2 hours. Sometimes transport was included, most times it was extra and I paid the taxi when they arrived. None of the girls were business like and all performances were good to great. Most of the girls were in the 18-21 age range with ID verification at the hotel. I always looked at the ID myself before they entered the hotel and no one lied about their age.
I did not take any girls outside of FB on my first trip. Streetwalkers and casa girls will be on my agenda on a future trip. Yes, it is cheaper in El Centro but I was happy with my experiences with the FB girls coming to my hotel room.
I enjoyed my first visit to Medellin and I will return. I stayed in the Poblado region and I felt safe in the neighborhood. There are places that are more dangerous. I recommend staying in Poblado for newbies.
Hey guys,
Was wondering if you guys have any idea what the rate for the high end girls (9/10's) off of seeking arrangement would be for a good date / intimacy.
Here in the states it's about 500 usd for a quality girl in seattle, wondering the same for Colombia. Thanks!Typically from 400 k up to 800 k, so $90 to $180 for the very top girls, although I don't think you'll find a 10. It's not too hard to find SA girls that are quite attractive for 300 k to 400 k all in. The most attractive and made up girls tend to be on IG and a bit harder to connect with or they associate with the high net worth Colombian sugar daddies.
DonCarlos1234
10-01-22, 00:40
"Quality girl". Here we go again. Haha. Quality for me is a girl that will have great sex w me for less than USD 10. So on that basis. Less than USD 10. Or maybe you mean a philosophy graduate? Possibly others might give you other answers. Hehe.On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.
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For some guy's it's how they monger, it's how they operate, or their technique of mongering after identifying a girl to see what unfolds in the room.
And sometimes there are some unexpected and welcome surprises that both you and Gabacho have encountered.
I personally like seeing what transpires in the room with the girl, yet make it clear that the BJ will be uncovered, and leave it at that.
....From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. 😂 That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOL
On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.He he I think the question would be better posed as "how much is an expeniive prepago?" . I think that is really what he means TBH.
Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!
Got a few whatsapps (stupid of me as I now know that's a dead end) I always like the challenge to shore "prostitutes". Strippers and such. These girls IMHO are virtual prostitutes not models. I guess industry leaders insisted in models to eliminate any shame as prepago sounds better than prostitute. Or off on another topic how abortion advocates use the word fetus as opposed to baby when discussing abortion. Point is, my definition is that they are prostitutes who work virtually.
Fast forward, when giving tokens as tips or getting private time with them, it's just like a stripper taking to you at your table or in the vip section booth if having a dance or 2. Their goal is to take out as much money as possible. Bear in mind my senior experienced members, maybe this might help a new fish. The success rate of converting a whatsapp into something deeper is slim. Happened to me but go figure, my chicks live in other cities. I do not want to fly them in. Send the money vis western union then get the. Text, ohhh I can't make it etc. As for the medellin chicks, either they don't do meetups, or made a few excuses (nice way of rejecting your date offer) .
I am stubborn at times, and I want to be able to get a webcam chick even for a date (without buying her time if that makes sense). So far I struck out. Granted, I was in medellin for a few days in 2021 and 7 days in 2022. You can't do sh!! If you want to meet up. I have a big strike against me, I do not live there and am there for a few days. Best is to pay the chicks and get on with it.
After talking with a few webcam chicks this is what they usually say like it is scripted. Both independent and girls who work in studios. In no particular order:
1. No hago reales, no hago encuentros (I don't do meetups).
2. Soy soltera. (I am single) yeah right.
3. Compra mi whatsapp why podemos charlar más (buy my whatsap so we can talk more) we can talk fine on the site dear.
4. Soy bisexual.
Experience costs money. After browsing some profiles I've noticed some posting (showing off in some ways) guys tipping these girls thousands of dollars. From mid tier to the higher tier in looks. Great for the workers! And no jealousy from my end. I asked myself, how the hell can I compete with a guy who is sending a model a few thousand bucks in a tip? I could do it, but I don't have that kind of spare change. Then I remembered talking to a buddy, and how 99.9999% of men who follow Instagram girls or webcam girls have no chance to even go on a date with them. It's those men who do not follow these girls, it's those men who do not join webcam sites are the ones dating these girls. Forget about p4 p. I am talking about forming a bond to gain her trust so you can meet up. It's damn hard to do when competing with big tippers. It's cheaper to even go to la isla then to get her whatsapp which is usually $80 usd plus tips and private time. (Again being outside of medellin hurt my really really really slim chances).
Could you get by on charm with these virtual chicks. Yes, but be ready to be treated like a clown. Her man she is probably banging does not do that. As for bisexuality, something is up as I noticed girls in the sex industry tend to be on the experimentation side, to each their own, is there truth to this? So, they swing both ways, do they say it to get more tips? Or is it true? How can I use this to my advantage? LOL.
My approach to webcam was never p4 p in real life. I always had that slim hope of getting the girl with my charm and a few tips here and there as they are working per se. Ego is a bi! Ch!
To sum up my rant, I choose to not out compete the big tippers as I know the juice is not worth the squeeze. I probably have a better chance to get her just by luck if I run into her in the mall. I would not doubt that the F buddies or boyfriends they have even girlfriends are not hotter or have more to offer than users in the site. Scary for some to meet up, I get it, but quite unwise after trust has been built up to not take a chance on a good catch sort of speak.
My advice, avoid buying the whatsapps or instagrams etc. If you are outside of Colombia or any other region, don't even bother buying private's etc. If you have hopes of one day shoring and dating her. If you are living there, the chances increase most definitely. Heck, only go on it if you live there and are really bored. Use a vpn of course. As I said, it's cheaper in many places for p4 p if that is what you want than getting a webcam chica to agree to meet you. La isla is probably a cheaper and better alternatives.
He he I think the question would be better posed as "how much is an expeniive prepago?" . I think that is really what he means TBH.I've been lurking for months but only recently got posting privileges. And then weekend will be one week since I sent transfered Bitcoin and messaged admin. But no sub yet.
I'll be going to making my first trip in November and am excited.
To prep I have added Facebook girls but they have not replied. Not sure to be straightforward or not. Those that do stop replying once I get to asking about P4 P. However I am also on Cupid and that has been interesting. Along the lines of what is too much. I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop CFS, and 1,200 cop for anal, super hot. Got another that quoted in $1500 usd can't remember the time but probably 1 HR, also hot. Then this one tells me I had to pay for photos and videos. And got mad going into a rant about I wanting free photos and stuff. I was clear no photos or videos or chat for pay, only meet. She wasn't too happy when I said my money has more value since I was walking away and she was going crazy about how I needed the photos and stuff.
Reading the forum, I know not to pay before even if it's to eventually meet. I walked from all, but other than the last one, the girls were all very understanding.
When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?
For Cupid, any advice on asking for P4 P. A lot of girls say serious relationship, but when I say casual date or looking for a short time girlfriend I get responses, even when I say intimate and naughty. I believe they must only see the USA in the profile much like I only see their photos! A few I have jumped right into what I want and they are cool. They were very clear in their descriptions. I've tried a few different approaches with the same results.
I was wondering, besides El Centro (which is another question that I believe is in the thread which is price of SG in the different areas), what should we expect for prices from Cupid, Tinder, SA, FB. Is there some kind of centralized list.
I don't think I get PM yet, let's hope tomorrow! I need all the help I can get to make this the best trip. I consider myself a very green monger!
Mojo Bandit
10-01-22, 13:45
I've been lurking for months but only recently got posting privileges. And then weekend will be one week since I sent transfered Bitcoin and messaged admin. But no sub yet.
I'll be going to making my first trip in November and am excited.
To prep I have added Facebook girls but they have not replied. Not sure to be straightforward or not. Those that do stop replying once I get to asking about P4 P. However I am also on Cupid and that has been interesting. Along the lines of what is too much. I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop CFS, and 1,200 cop for anal, super hot. Got another that quoted in $1500 usd can't remember the time but probably 1 HR, also hot.
Reading the forum, I know not to pay before even if it's to eventually meet. I walked from all, but other than the last one, the girls were all very understanding.
When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?
I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate.
Besides I would talk to a hundred chicas in that time frame you have before you go down there. There are thousands of them literally - pros and what I call semi pros. When I started Cupid had real time IM chat windows and I would have to juggle between the chicas I was talking to in real time. But I started communicating early before my first trip because it can take that long to find chicas that you really like. I was clueless when I started so communicating with a lot of chicas was educational. I like GFE and the ones I've gotten the best GFE from are the chicas I spent time communicating with before hand - I want to qualify this by saying that I know my boundaries - but if they blow you off becuase you are not ready to negotiate they may be too business like to offer up good GFE
When you get your PM set up send me a message and I will give you more tips and some leads.
Mr Enternational
10-01-22, 17:17
When should negotiation start. I'm a month out, I now realize that's too far out to be on Cupid, should it be the week before, days when arranging meets?I would say stay offline and wait until you get there and go to in-person places like casas. After paying those chicks 40 K or whatever, you will no longer even entertain a chick saying 600 K no matter how hot you think she is. Get to know the place before blindly committing to online shit.
On the streets? Dumb questions. This board is the wrong place to ask. They're better educated girls in Bogota. SA maybe starting at $600 COP PPM down and make payments. $10 ? LOL use the glory hole.He does have a point. "Quality girl" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The OP might end up paying 600 k for a girl who he will believe was grossly overpriced, after the date. Another guy might pay 40 k for a girl who outperforms the 600 k girl in every way.
Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!
Got a few whatsapps (stupid of me as I now know that's a dead end) I always like the challenge to shore "prostitutes". Strippers and such. These girls IMHO are virtual prostitutes not models. I guess industry leaders insisted in models to eliminate any shame as prepago sounds better than prostitute. Or off on another topic how abortion advocates use the word fetus as opposed to baby when discussing abortion. Point is, my definition is that they are prostitutes who work virtually.
Fast forward, when giving tokens as tips or getting private time with them, it's just like a stripper taking to you at your table or in the vip section booth if having a dance or 2. Their goal is to take out as much money as possible. Bear in mind my senior experienced members, maybe this might help a new fish. The success rate of converting a whatsapp into something deeper is slim. Happened to me but go figure, my chicks live in other cities. I do not want to fly them in. Send the money vis western union then get the. Text, ohhh I can't make it etc. As for the medellin chicks, either they don't do meetups, or made a few excuses (nice way of rejecting your date offer) .
I am stubborn at times, and I want to be able to get a webcam chick even for a date (without buying her time if that makes sense). So far I struck out. Granted, I was in medellin for a few days in 2021 and 7 days in 2022. You can't do sh!! If you want to meet up. I have a big strike against me, I do not live there and am there for a few days. Best is to pay the chicks and get on with it.
After talking with a few webcam chicks this is what they usually say like it is scripted. Both independent and girls who work in studios. In no particular order:
1. No hago reales, no hago encuentros (I don't do meetups).
2. Soy soltera. (I am single) yeah right.
3. Compra mi whatsapp why podemos charlar ms (buy my whatsap so we can talk more) we can talk fine on the site dear.
4. Soy bisexual.
Experience costs money. After browsing some profiles I've noticed some posting (showing off in some ways) guys tipping these girls thousands of dollars. From mid tier to the higher tier in looks. Great for the workers! And no jealousy from my end. I asked myself, how the hell can I compete with a guy who is sending a model a few thousand bucks in a tip? I could do it, but I don't have that kind of spare change. Then I remembered talking to a buddy, and how 99.9999% of men who follow Instagram girls or webcam girls have no chance to even go on a date with them. It's those men who do not follow these girls, it's those men who do not join webcam sites are the ones dating these girls. Forget about p4 p. I am talking about forming a bond to gain her trust so you can meet up. It's damn hard to do when competing with big tippers. It's cheaper to even go to la isla then to get her whatsapp which is usually $80 usd plus tips and private time. (Again being outside of medellin hurt my really really really slim chances).
Could you get by on charm with these virtual chicks. Yes, but be ready to be treated like a clown. Her man she is probably banging does not do that. As for bisexuality, something is up as I noticed girls in the sex industry tend to be on the experimentation side, to each their own, is there truth to this? So, they swing both ways, do they say it to get more tips? Or is it true? How can I use this to my advantage? LOL.
My approach to webcam was never p4 p in real life. I always had that slim hope of getting the girl with my charm and a few tips here and there as they are working per se. Ego is a bi! Ch!
To sum up my rant, I choose to not out compete the big tippers as I know the juice is not worth the squeeze. I probably have a better chance to get her just by luck if I run into her in the mall. I would not doubt that the F buddies or boyfriends they have even girlfriends are not hotter or have more to offer than users in the site. Scary for some to meet up, I get it, but quite unwise after trust has been built up to not take a chance on a good catch sort of speak.
My advice, avoid buying the whatsapps or instagrams etc. If you are outside of Colombia or any other region, don't even bother buying private's etc. If you have hopes of one day shoring and dating her. If you are living there, the chances increase most definitely. Heck, only go on it if you live there and are really bored. Use a vpn of course. As I said, it's cheaper in many places for p4 p if that is what you want than getting a webcam chica to agree to meet you. La isla is probably a cheaper and better alternatives.1. Participating in webcams is a different thing for different people. Most guys here see no point. Why pay to see a girl on your screen when you can pay less for a girl in your bed? Other than the fantasy aspect, there's no benefit to trying to lay a webcam model.
2. Almost every Colombian webcam model has someone watching everything. They see every private message, they see every tip note. Often, the person watching is the person chatting (and it's usually a guy). The same guy is often the one sending Whatsapp messages or responding to messages on the model's other accounts (Twitter, Instagram, OnlyFans). If the girl will meet you for sex it's almost certainly because the guy is getting a cut.
3. The road to success with successful webcam models is the same as with high earning strippers. You can either throw so much money that she can't ignore it, or you need to establish yourself as a safe haven.
For many years I spent a lot of time and money in strip clubs, and got next to nothing in return. My first partial success came after spending a lot of money over several weeks on 1 girl. We met up a few times outside the club and she bought me lunch once. But no sex.
Years later a bored stripper started talking to me. We had mutual interests and eventually became friends. At the time I was still spending too much, with no success. Then my friend started sitting with me, just having normal conversations. Soon, almost every stripper was hanging out at my table if business was slow, and everyone greeted me. I started spending less, but got more access. At first just lunch or a few drinks, then it became dates and sex. All because I was comfortable and safe. I was someone who didn't treat them like strippers.
I used that when I was into webcams. I chatted, made jokes and avoided direct sexual comments. I tipped, not big amounts, but regularly. On a slow night a girl could depend on me to get some money. Keeping a balance between spending and chatting puts you in an elite group. You're not trying to get something for free and you're not trying to buy something, plus you're making webcam fun for the girls (and usually it's incredibly dull).
All of that got me into the friend zone, got me a few lunches with a successful webcam model and eventually got me an offer to be webcam model support in Colombia, a webcam model roommate and webcam model friends. And that cured me of the webcam model fantasy.
I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop That's less than two dollars US so I think maybe you are missing several zeros. Probably three, in which case those prices are extremely high.
From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOLSo Brazil is way more expensive than Colombia?
You build up a list of contacts and tell them approximately when you will be there. You don't bring up money until you are there and ready for them. Bringing up money before is telling them you
have no experience in this and are easy prey. Can't blame them for quoting you a high price. Why not? You are basically telling them you have no idea what you are doing. Read the prior posts here that will help you.
Telling them that you can not talk money because it is illegal in the USA is ridiculous. These girls aren't going to believe or care. Just another example you don't know what you are doing
I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate.
Besides I would talk to a hundred chicas in that time frame you have before you go down there. There are thousands of them literally - pros and what I call semi pros. When I started Cupid had real time IM chat windows and I would have to juggle between the chicas I was talking to in real time. But I started communicating early before my first trip because it can take that long to find chicas that you really like. I was clueless when I started so communicating with a lot of chicas was educational. I like GFE and the ones I've gotten the best GFE from are the chicas I spent time communicating with before hand - I want to qualify this by saying that I know my boundaries - but if they blow you off becuase you are not ready to negotiate they may be too business like to offer up good GFE
When you get your PM set up send me a message and I will give you more tips and some leads.
Got my PM priveleges but your inbox is full.
Finally got my sub. Your inbox is full Mojo Bandit.
All the tips have been great.
I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate. ...
I would say stay offline and wait until you get there and go to in-person places like casas. After paying those chicks 40 K or whatever, you will no longer even entertain a chick saying 600 K no matter how hot you think she is. Get to know the place before blindly committing to online shit.Exactly, no need for that online, prearranged stuff down in MDE. The females are waiting for you, no reason to already commit to something online, unless of course you don't have a mouth peice for face to face interaction.
DandyMan51
10-02-22, 07:08
I arrived in Medellin Saturday night and went to my place in Laureles. I checked with the host and it is girl friendly as long as there are no parties. I'll PM the link to any senior member who has contributed to the forum after I leave. I was somewhat tired but wanted to get things started off right and so I ordered some local cialis via Rappi while messaging some facebook and mileroticos girls. I considered La Isla but it is a bit far and I didn't want to blow a ton of money when I was tired from my flight. Trying to setup some facebook girls for tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/ and I got her location. I waited for my Rappi to arrive, took my cialis and uber'd the the place. It appears to be right next to Fantasias Spa. The address is Carrera 74#49-107. I didn't see it on the map but maybe it can be added. I get buzzed up and my girl shows me in. It is a nice place. The room I was in had a circular bed, a massage table, a regular bed, a sofa, and a bathroom. My biggest problem was when I took a shower the water was only cold. The girl is the same as the pictures. She isn't a model or anything but at least she provides honest pictures. The session was decent, the girl didn't do OWO or give kisses but did give peaks. We did a couple of positions. The girls attitude was a bit cold when I started but in the end she warmed up a bit and we talked after I came. Apparently 11 girls work at the location and it is open until midnight (at least on Saturday). I had an appointment but she said you don't need one. Overall I was happy with the session. Paid the girl 90 K at the beginning and gave her another 20 K tip at the end for good service (Please don't yell at me too much for this). She seemed a bit disappointed and I said you would get more for OWO, DFK or a massage to which she happily responded "next time". Since it is rather close to me, I may go again, potentially with another girl. May also look to go to Energy sometime later since I am interested in their threesome for only 250 k.
Exactly, no need for that online, prearranged stuff down in MDE. The females are waiting for you, no reason to already commit to something online, unless of course you don't have a mouth peice for face to face interaction.There's a need for the online prearranged stuff in Medellin. If there wasn't a need there wouldn't be so much of it.
Everyone has their own idea of the perfect experience. Online options work better for some.
Shout out to Jjbee62 again!
I totally get it and I agree with you for everything regarding webcam. Not living in Colombia and only visiting once a year for a week to 10 days certainly puts one behind the 8 ball.
To build on your story about developing a bond. In university on the weekends I would go to strip club s before hitting the bars and clubs. This was late 90's early 2000's when strip clubs were still popular. After being a regular I met a guy who was a private driver for the girls. Long before Uber. Small talk happened one night and he was in need of help and asked If I could drive a girl. I was like wow a stripper, drive her Sure. Was strictly professional. Then he gained my trust and drove a few strippers and massage parlour girls. It wa perfect. Leave my club at 2 am and then on the way home pick pick up a few strippers and drive them. You became " cool" with them sort of speak. You were not a customer anymore, and you gained their trust. I met their husbands, boyfriends got their real Names LOL. No longer was she sky, she is Lisa. Stuff like that. They would sit with you when it's slow, even buy a round as well.
For example, any of us can go and hang out at a coffee shop outside those gyms or even join a gym like smart fit etc. You will see the smoke shows come out. Prime time early morning and evening. These girls have them onky fans accounts, are maybe webcam models or have a "sponsor". Even if you are into fitness culture you still have a steep hill to climb to get them too, same with webcam. What you did takes time. Develop repoire etc. Patience. I am certain I can shore a few models as I did what you did. Just I need to be in colo, but for a much longer time, not 10 days a year.
Competing with big spenders can do the trick, but not many of us want to tip $5000 to some virtual chick. F that! Yet guys do that. She's probably banging some dude who can't rub two Pennies together. Or has some lesbian lover who looks like a teenage boy. Then you ask yourself. WTF! Go back to the drawing board, and read everything jibee62 says and even hopefully what I said here.
So Brazil is way more expensive than Colombia?Sao Paulo is more developed and it has more expensive / high end places, restaurants, cafes, and clubs. Sao Paulo metro costs about 0. 8 USD per ride. If Sao Paulo metro is fully loaded model, then Medellin's metro is the base model. The equivalent of expensive / high end places do not really exist in Medellin. The cover alone is 80 USD. There are cheap options and it starts at 10 minutes but still more expensive than El Centro.
The difference at service level is you get what you expect for what you pay in Sao Paulo. Medellin is the opposite, the higher price places have the most limited services.
.....Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/ and I got her location......Were the boobies natural?
Now that this place is "on the map" I am very interested in hearing how guys rate the experience compared to its more famous next door neighbor Energy. Ten years ago Energy stood out because its facilities were nicely appointed compared to other casas. And especially compared to Centro casas. I was last there maybe six months ago with some out of town friends with weekend warrior tendencies. It is starting to look a little run down in the reception areas. I have not been in one of their rooms in several years but my second hand information is they are still spacious and clean. While I was cooling my heels downstairs waiting for my shot caller friends it dawned on me that the volume of guys coming and going (including a group who were allowed to drive into the downstairs garage before getting out of their car) at the atmosphere reminded me of New Life. I got to see the lineup. It also reminded me of New Life.
OK back to the next door neighbor. Obviously it is at a price point that is noticeably below Energy's. The rooms I've seen there are larger versions of what you find in Zandaly and Amigas Sexxy and a step above Aiffe and Zaza. A few of the girls there are fairly popular on the Colombian review sites. I've written in passing about the place a week or two ago. As always I'm interested in seeing what others think.
I arrived in Medellin Saturday night and went to my place in Laureles. I checked with the host and it is girl friendly as long as there are no parties. I'll PM the link to any senior member who has contributed to the forum after I leave. I was somewhat tired but wanted to get things started off right and so I ordered some local cialis via Rappi while messaging some facebook and mileroticos girls. I considered La Isla but it is a bit far and I didn't want to blow a ton of money when I was tired from my flight. Trying to setup some facebook girls for tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/ and I got her location. I waited for my Rappi to arrive, took my cialis and uber'd the the place. It appears to be right next to Fantasias Spa. The address is Carrera 74#49-107. I didn't see it on the map but maybe it can be added. I get buzzed up and my girl shows me in. It is a nice place. The room I was in had a circular bed, a massage table, a regular bed, a sofa, and a bathroom. My biggest problem was when I took a shower the water was only cold. The girl is the same as the pictures. She isn't a model or anything but at least she provides honest pictures. The session was decent, the girl didn't do OWO or give kisses but did give peaks. We did a couple of positions. The girls attitude was a bit cold when I started but in the end she warmed up a bit and we talked after I came. Apparently 11 girls work at the location and it is open until midnight (at least on Saturday). I had an appointment but she said you don't need one. Overall I was happy with the session. Paid the girl 90 K at the beginning and gave her another 20 K tip at the end for good service (Please don't yell at me too much for this). She seemed a bit disappointed and I said you would get more for OWO, DFK or a massage to which she happily responded "next time". Since it is rather close to me, I may go again, potentially with another girl. May also look to go to Energy sometime later since I am interested in their threesome for only 250 k.
He does have a point. "Quality girl" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The OP might end up paying 600 k for a girl who he will believe was grossly overpriced, after the date. Another guy might pay 40 k for a girl who outperforms the 600 k girl in every way.Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.
Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. .Said it plenty of times now. That; s what quality means to YOU. Its not what it means to me, nor countless others. Fitness model might be ok, but fashion model? Yuk. Beauty contestants? Yuk, but depends which country.
Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.Plenty of girls in Centro make my head turn.
Ultimately, what I am saying is quality is subjective. So it's redundant to ask where one can find quality. Am sure he simply means where can he pay a lot of money for a girl in Colombia. Paying a lot of money in itself seems to validate a purchase for many buyers.
Plenty of girls in Centro make my head turn.
Ultimately, what I am saying is quality is subjective. So it's redundant to ask where one can find quality. Am sure he simply means where can he pay a lot of money for a girl in Colombia. Paying a lot of money in itself seems to validate a purchase for many buyers.I don't see girls that would make my head turn in El Centro. Cute at best, but not quality. You probably have lower standards, which is not necessarily a bad thing, because you have more options to work with.
Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, but price and performance do not correlate.
IYou probably have lower standards, which is not necessarily a bad thing, because you have more options to work with.
Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, but price and performance do not correlate.I know that's what you think, which is why I find your comments funny. "lower standards" - hahaha. So says the MB, the Official Authority on Quality Standards. What you should say is "Different standards".
"Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, " - you drank the Kool Aid.
"Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, " - you drank the Kool Aid.You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.
There's a need for the online prearranged stuff in Medellin. If there wasn't a need there wouldn't be so much of it.
Everyone has their own idea of the perfect experience. Online options work better for some.Correct, for those that Lack a mouth piece.
Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.Nope. Unless you're just looking and jerking off, quality involves a lot more than just looks. For most of us, sex requires the participation of at least 1 woman. If the woman just lays on her back and says "get it over with", it doesn't matter what she looks like, she's minimal quality.
On the other hand, a woman who always works to make sure you get the best session and who enjoys her work is high quality. Of course that only applies if you're fucking instead of just looking at Instagram accounts.
Best part, you can find beautiful women, who will rock your world and look great doing it, anywhere in Medellin. However, you'll need to stop dreaming on Instagram first.
Correct, for those that Lack a mouth piece.So, for example, the guy who just has a 6-8 hour layover in a city, who wants to maximize his short stop, instead of setting up something online before, just lacks a mouthpiece because he doesn't have time to deal with traffic twice, walking around and negotiating a deal, once he finds a girl?
Or the guy who wakes up at 2 am and feels the urge lacks a mouthpiece because he doesn't want to get dressed, get a taxi and try to find someone acceptable from the few girls available? Instead, he can pick up his phone and in less than 15 minutes have a girl on the way to him.
There are times when guys don't want to go walk around looking in the rain. There are times when guys want to setup something which is difficult to arrange on the street, yet quite simple online.
Simply passing it off as "lacking a mouthpiece" shows a lack of imagination.
You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.Not everyone wants a fitness model.
The other point is that there are plenty of women who are just as fit and just as attractive as the fitness model, but aren't working as one. My Facebook has dozens of them, although I generally pay $40-$50. Or I can spend $80 for a fitness model working internationally (and who is a sexual Olympian).
This is a good thread to move to "stupid shit in Medellin" Mr. Moderator.
I know that's what you think, which is why I find your comments funny. "lower standards" - hahaha. So says the MB, the Official Authority on Quality Standards. What you should say is "Different standards".
"Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, " - you drank the Kool Aid.
Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!
Got a few whatsapps (stupid of me as I now know that's a dead end) I always like the challenge to shore "prostitutes". Strippers and such. These girls IMHO are virtual prostitutes not models. I guess industry leaders insisted in models to eliminate any shame as prepago sounds better than prostitute. Or off on another topic how abortion advocates use the word fetus as opposed to baby when discussing abortion. Point is, my definition is that they are prostitutes who work virtually.
Fast forward, when giving tokens as tips or getting private time with them, it's just like a stripper taking to you at your table or in the vip section booth if having a dance or 2. Their goal is to take out as much money as possible. Bear in mind my senior experienced members, maybe this might help a new fish. The success rate of converting a whatsapp into something deeper is slim. Happened to me but go figure, my chicks live in other cities. I do not want to fly them in. Send the money vis western union then get the. Text, ohhh I can't make it etc. As for the medellin chicks, either they don't do meetups, or made a few excuses (nice way of rejecting your date offer) .
I am stubborn at times, and I want to be able to get a webcam chick even for a date (without buying her time if that makes sense). So far I struck out. Granted, I was in medellin for a few days in 2021 and 7 days in 2022. You can't do sh!! If you want to meet up. I have a big strike against me, I do not live there and am there for a few days. Best is to pay the chicks and get on with it.
After talking with a few webcam chicks this is what they usually say like it is scripted. Both independent and girls who work in studios. In no particular order.I get webcam girls all the time. Maybe you don't know what to look for.
Mojo Bandit
10-03-22, 00:42
Finally got my sub. Your inbox is full Mojo Bandit.
All the tips have been great.I cleared out my mailbox but it still is not letting me send messages. Can you try to send me one and see if I can reply.
Mr Enternational
10-03-22, 00:55
Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.
You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.As far as getting what you pay for, the value of my house has more than doubled since I bought it. No way I would buy it at the price it is valued at now. To me it is not worth that. The same as I see these chicks with a bunch of makeup and high heels that want $300 at Gustos. Simply not worth it to me. But if you are willing to pay for a $300 hood rat with heels and makeup, you will definitively get that.
The other day I was in the Dominican Republic and went to my usual barber shop. There is a chick there that does nails but I never paid any attention to her. Just looks like any normal chick to me. But the other day I decided to get my nails done there. We were in her room and her phone was out. The front picture was this bad ass chick. I said who the hell is that? She said that is me. I said it sure doesn't look like it. She says that is how I am when I take the time to fix up my hair and put on makeup and stuff. And she showed me other pictures in her phone. Looked just like ever other instagram model that these guys keep drooling over and calling quality and smoking hot. She was no fitness model, fashion model, or beauty contestant, but there she was doing my nails.
You can get a chick that is ugly as hell for $600; if you think you can't then you are delusional. Last time someone posted a report on Luna Lunera all the chicks there were the same price. Is this because all the chicks there look the same? Because according to you, the better looking chicks would be a higher price.
I've been lurking for months but only recently got posting privileges. And then weekend will be one week since I sent transfered Bitcoin and messaged admin. But no sub yet.
I'll be going to making my first trip in November and am excited.
I don't think I get PM yet, let's hope tomorrow! I need all the help I can get to make this the best trip. I consider myself a very green monger!Hey Marxh, I'm also planning to do my first trip on early Nop. I don't speak Spanish and only rely on this forum. My plan is just hit as many casa as I can since I'm just going to stay there for 4 days. Any tips, tricks, list of prices from all of you are much appreciated! Oh, And I want to see dentist as well if anyone can recommend one. I'm planning to stay in Nutibara.
You get what you pay for.Definitely not true in the PFP game.
You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.Well I'm sure they don't work as fitness models, LOL, however, I found some very pretty girls with nice tight bodies in el Centro this week.
If you're good at the gab, can get the confidence of some of these girls, and willing to add a little to the price, good GFE is available.
Definitely have to have patience and know how to vet them out, but they're out there.
Just left the Botero, off to Bogota.
Enjoy!
Hey Marxh, I'm also planning to do my first trip on early Nop. I don't speak Spanish and only rely on this forum. My plan is just hit as many casa as I can since I'm just going to stay there for 4 days. Any tips, tricks, list of prices from all of you are much appreciated! Oh, And I want to see dentist as well if anyone can recommend one. I'm planning to stay in Nutibara.The information you want is in the user blog Medellin Map and List. 4 days is probably not enough to see a dentist. If you can book one before you arrive, maybe.
MarquisdeSade1
10-03-22, 03:48
You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.Yes sometimes you get what you pay for, sometimes you don't.
Ever hear of overpaying MB? Of course you have.
So Brazil is way more expensive than Colombia?Specifically, the high-end places in Sao Paulo (most notably Scandallo) are more expensive. But there's nothing in Medellin remotely close to those places as far as quality and quality of women. You do have plenty much less expensive places in both Sao Paulo and Rio also. But most guys are going to want to go to Scandallo at least one night if they're in Sao Paulo.
BluePillow
10-03-22, 06:08
Hey guys,
I've been RTFF for about a year now and I've decided to pull the trigger and come Nov 12-Nov 19. I'm probably going to stay in the noob friendly Dorado La 70 or Energy Apartments. I don't speak Spanish at all, so I'll probably struggle. I'm going to try and learn some phrases, but do you guys have tips for finding paisas / girls who are able to speak English? Any areas / places I should check out? And, while your dicks are recharging, what do you guys like to do?
Also, what are the strip clubs like? Is it anything like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you go and basically pick & pay? If anyone's going to be here in mid November like me and wants to monger together, lmk!
DandyMan51
10-03-22, 06:16
I had terrible luck with facebook girls today (Sunday) and all of my girls flaked. One said she would come at 6 but cancelled at 5 which took away any chance I had to go to centro or to the casas. I didn't get much better response from any of the other independent escort sites either. Thus I decided to go with La Celestina, who isn't as good in Medellin as it is in Bogota, will at least provide a guaranteed girl. They sent me the 4 girls they had available and I chose Alison Garcia (you can find pictures of her on the website). They made me pay a deposit of 100 mil pesos for her which is a first in my experience with the agency but since I had done business with them before I went ahead and sent it. Alison arrived (early if you can believe it) and while it is the same girl as in the pictures, she is about 5-10 kg heavier with less formed tits. I walked her in and we sat on the couch and talked (the spanish learning is paying off as I could feel her get way more comfortable as we continued and we played some music on the TV). She started giving me a massage with my shirt off which moved into kissing my body and some DFK. We moved to the bedroom where the DFK and groping continued as we took off our clothes. One best practice I have is to book a two bedroom apartment. I keep all my stuff in one room and just fuck girls in the other. The most a girl could steal is the towel I gave her to dry off since all my other valuables are behind a locked door and in a locked drawer. She proceeded to give me a CBJ which was surprisingly good. She seemed to really like deepthroating and used the saliva from it to massage my balls. I was close to cumming when I asked her to come on top off my for some cowgirl. She obliged and we fucked for a while until I came in the condom. She then took the condom off of my and went to take a shower. We talked for a bit after until she took her ride home. I probably wouldn't book with her again since there are way hotter girls in Medellin for a lower price but her service and attitude was good.
DandyMan51
10-03-22, 06:26
Specifically, the high-end places in Sao Paulo (most notably Scandallo) are more expensive. But there's nothing in Medellin remotely close to those places as far as quality and quality of women. You do have plenty much less expensive places in both Sao Paulo and Rio also. But most guys are going to want to go to Scandallo at least one night if they're in Sao Paulo.I have to disagree that the quality of the women in Scandallo are beyond what you can find in Medellin. Perhaps it was just bad luck when I visited but the two times I visited Scandallo, there were only 2-3 girls who were better than what you can find in Medellin between La Isla, Gustos and Seeking. And those girls basically always had customers which basically meant waiting in line if you wanted to bang them and only getting to bang them after 3 other guys just finished. I think La Isla can rather easily be compared to Scandallo but at a much lower cost. The one thing that Scandallo has that is really special is that it puts up an incredibly classy façade (fancy restaurant, patio, bar, game room). Like you feel like you are in some sort of elite meetup with the 1% when in reality it's still just a glorified casa. I feel like there are some FKKs that are designed similarly though service in Brazil will almost always beat whatever service you will get in Europe.
I had terrible luck with facebook girls today (Sunday) and all of my girls flaked.I have found that most of my Facebook friends don't respond to messages on the weekends.
You get what you pay for. Never heard of? If you think you can get a fitness model for 10 bucks, you are delusional.If I wanted a fitness model, I would go to the gym or a modelling agency and pay the rate. If I wanted a FK I would go downtown and pay USD 10.
Now if I wanted a FK w a fitness model. I would be thinking to myself. WTF is a fitness model working in the sex trade for? Maybe I made some bad assmptions about quality here.
Which venue has the hotter girls - La Isla or Loutron?
The flake factor is something I learned to eliminate. I make it clear to potential companions there is a 15-minute grace period from the established meeting time, after which there will be no meeting. In the rare cases where I don't have a plan be at the ready, I'm willing to accept postponement requests if they come before the end of the grace period. Those instances are rare. By the time the grace period is up, I normally move on. I remember people telling me I would become more patient as I age. That has not so far turned out to be true. We all have a limited amount of time to enjoy our lives. God forbid but sometimes it is less time than expected. This is why I refuse to fritter any of that time away waiting, hoping, and wondering if somebody is going to fulfill their time commitment. I take the mystery out of it. There are so many options in Medellin between mileroticos, Centro, casas, and personal contacts it just makes no sense to me to be up in the air over the whims of some girl.
I had terrible luck with facebook girls today (Sunday) and all of my girls flaked. One said she would come at 6 but cancelled at 5 which took away any chance I had to go to centro or to the casas. I didn't get much better response from any of the other independent escort sites either. Thus I decided to go with La Celestina, who isn't as good in Medellin as it is in Bogota, will at least provide a guaranteed girl. They sent me the 4 girls they had available and I chose Alison Garcia (you can find pictures of her on the website). They made me pay a deposit of 100 mil pesos for her which is a first in my experience with the agency but since I had done business with them before I went ahead and sent it. Alison arrived (early if you can believe it) and while it is the same girl as in the pictures, she is about 5-10 kg heavier with less formed tits. I walked her in and we sat on the couch and talked (the spanish learning is paying off as I could feel her get way more comfortable as we continued and we played some music on the TV). She started giving me a massage with my shirt off which moved into kissing my body and some DFK. We moved to the bedroom where the DFK and groping continued as we took off our clothes. One best practice I have is to book a two bedroom apartment. I keep all my stuff in one room and just fuck girls in the other. The most a girl could steal is the towel I gave her to dry off since all my other valuables are behind a locked door and in a locked drawer..
It varies by day / time of day. Loutron always costs more.
Which venue has the hotter girls - La Isla or Loutron?
...They made me pay a deposit of 100 mil pesos for her which is a first in my experience with the agency....They must not have your old record so they treat you as a new customer and they require a deposit when you are not staying in a hotel. They should not ask a deposit if you use the same whatsapp to contact them next time.
Mr Enternational
10-03-22, 16:57
The one thing that Scandallo has that is really special is that it puts up an incredibly classy faade (fancy restaurant, patio, bar, game room). Like you feel like you are in some sort of elite meetup with the 1% when in reality it's still just a glorified casa.Isn't this whole thing about a facade? If you went home with most of these chicks and saw how they live and spent any real time with them then you would probably not be fucking them with your worst enemy's dick and would not think the so-called "high end" ones are worth what you are paying.
Yesterday in Barranquilla I met up with a teacher who is working on her masters degree. From the facade one would think this chick might have a good head on her shoulders. Wrong! Beforehand she asked me 1 million questions that I would not answer. I told her I wanted her to concentrate on being where she was supposed to be when she was supposed to be there and what we were going to do on the outing. She arrived to the place SHE picked 30 minutes later than the time SHE picked and with NO plan. I said and this is exactly why I was not answering all the other shit you asked about. You had only 2 things to concentrate on and could not even handle that simple responsibility, yet you are asking about all kind of other shit.
Then I saw her phone was in disrepair and said come on. If you are going to be a professional then you need to present yourself as a professional. At least try to look like you take care of your things. Then being the nice guy that I am, I went and bought her a new screen protector and case for 38 K.
Then we went to a park and she was asking me about the distance from Tampa to Louisiana. I told her to be more specific. What type of distance was she asking about. I had to pull up a map to show her how distance in a car, boat, or plane would all be different. But on the google map it said miles so I said but better to convert this to kilometers so you will better understand the distance. So I took out the calculator and multiplied by 1. 6. She had no idea what I was doing.
Then I said wait a minute and pulled out a bottle of water. I said how big is this? She said it is not 1 liter. I said correct it is half of a liter. I said and how many milliliters are in half of a liter? She had no idea. So I showed her where 500 ML was on the bottle. Then I asked how many milliliters are in 1 liter. She had no idea. I tried to coax it out of her saying listen to the word. It is in the name. Milli. And she just about guessed every number except 1000. I said what the hell are y'all learning in school here? And even a better question is what or how are you teaching kids? She said she was not good at math. I said but this is not math, this is life. I mean if you are cooking. Then she said I can not cook.
Earlier she told me she wants to have a baby. I said and how the hell do you plan on taking care of a baby if you don't know how to give it 200 ML of formula? I sent her home because under that facade this was not the type of woman I wanted to be dealing with. She keeps sending me messages about wanting to have a serious relationship together. I was just glad I did not fuck this chick before seeing under the facade.
I mean if a Chinese chick online can put on makeup and 5 minutes later be looking like Michael Jackson, who knows what is lying under half of these quality chicks' facades.
DandyMan51
10-03-22, 18:36
They must not have your old record so they treat you as a new customer and they require a deposit when you are not staying in a hotel. They should not ask a deposit if you use the same whatsapp to contact them next time.That makes sense. I always get a new sim card when I visit and I previously always called girls to either a hotel or motel.
Hey guys,
I've been RTFF for about a year now and I've decided to pull the trigger and come Nov 12-Nov 19. I'm probably going to stay in the noob friendly Dorado La 70 or Energy Apartments. I don't speak Spanish at all, so I'll probably struggle. I'm going to try and learn some phrases, but do you guys have tips for finding paisas / girls who are able to speak English? Any areas / places I should check out? And, while your dicks are recharging, what do you guys like to do?
Also, what are the strip clubs like? Is it anything like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you go and basically pick & pay? If anyone's going to be here in mid November like me and wants to monger together, lmk!San Peter Apartments is a better choice. Lots of English speaking mongers staying there and it's cheaper.
I specifically don't look for girls who speak English. They're harder to find and many of them charge more because they speak the language. Learn what you can and get comfortable using Google Translate.
Places to check out: Comuna 13 graffiti tour, Parque Arvi, Museo El Castillo are a few options. Checking out some of the malls, walking around the neighborhoods and exploring the Metro system are all things I've done when not doing the nasty.
The strip clubs range from dinky places, not much bigger than a 2 car garage (with cheap plastic chairs and tables) to 1 that would be the best club in most US cities. All have rooms on site and what you see on stage or working the floor will happily take you to a room for a price.
Family time.
I have found that most of my Facebook friends don't respond to messages on the weekends.
Hey guys,
I've been RTFF for about a year now and I've decided to pull the trigger and come Nov 12-Nov 19. I'm probably going to stay in the noob friendly Dorado La 70 or Energy Apartments. I don't speak Spanish at all, so I'll probably struggle. I'm going to try and learn some phrases, but do you guys have tips for finding paisas / girls who are able to speak English? Any areas / places I should check out? And, while your dicks are recharging, what do you guys like to do?
Also, what are the strip clubs like? Is it anything like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you go and basically pick & pay? If anyone's going to be here in mid November like me and wants to monger together, lmk!Every strip club is that way, although smaller than Hong Kong and different room arrangement. The facilities aren't as nice.
I'd start with Fase II and those close to it like San Diego, La Isla if you want to go for a bit of a drive, and if you want to be adventurous you can try Barre Ejecutiva and others in El Centro like Grille Nueva and Conejitas.
BluePillow
10-03-22, 20:53
San Peter Apartments is a better choice. Lots of English speaking mongers staying there and it's cheaper.
I specifically don't look for girls who speak English. They're harder to find and many of them charge more because they speak the language. Learn what you can and get comfortable using Google Translate.
Places to check out: Comuna 13 graffiti tour, Parque Arvi, Museo El Castillo are a few options. Checking out some of the malls, walking around the neighborhoods and exploring the Metro system are all things I've done when not doing the nasty.
The strip clubs range from dinky places, not much bigger than a 2 car garage (with cheap plastic chairs and tables) to 1 that would be the best club in most US cities. All have rooms on site and what you see on stage or working the floor will happily take you to a room for a price.Thanks, do you have any other places you'd recommend? San Peter Apartments don't have rooms for the 12th - 19th. I guess I should look for a doorman and a place that lets guests, those are the two most important right? Also, what's the one strip club that would be amazing?
Husker Dude
10-03-22, 21:56
I have found that most of my Facebook friends don't respond to messages on the weekends.In general Saturday night is date night where chicas go out with their real boyfriends and Sundays are family day.
The flake factor is something I learned to eliminate. I make it clear to potential companions there is a 15-minute grace period from the established meeting time, after which there will be no meeting. In the rare cases where I don't have a plan be at the ready, I'm willing to accept postponement requests if they come before the end of the grace period. Those instances are rare. By the time the grace period is up, I normally move on. I remember people telling me I would become more patient as I age. That has not so far turned out to be true. We all have a limited amount of time to enjoy our lives. God forbid but sometimes it is less time than expected. This is why I refuse to fritter any of that time away waiting, hoping, and wondering if somebody is going to fulfill their time commitment. I take the mystery out of it. There are so many options in Medellin between mileroticos, Centro, casas, and personal contacts it just makes no sense to me to be up in the air over the whims of some girl.It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.
RiceRocket99
10-03-22, 23:23
In general Saturday night is date night where chicas go out with their real boyfriends and Sundays are family day.I've been invited and participated in many Saturday / Sunday family events, especially when a holiday falls on a Monday, which happens a lot out here. This past summer there was literally 3 consecutive weeks with Mondays being a holiday in each of them. All I can say the barrio block parties are out of this world. Come with a fresh liver because guaro and ron going to be poured endlessly out of carton containers. Grandmas and grandpas would go shot for shot with me goddamn, I loved it! They would say better treat my granddaughter right hehe. Most of the time, the families know their daughter / granddaughter are in the prepago business because they know a day job won't cut it. Other times, the girl would specifically tell me to be discreet and that their families don't know what they do on the side. Either way, I'm putting it in hehe. Respecting and appreciating their culture and speaking the language goes a long way in the barrios, and having a strong liver definitely helps. And nothing beats homemade sancocho and frijoles!
It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.The "on time" issue is not just working girls. Had a long class discussion with a spanish teacher from Colombia about this. In social situations it is normal for people to show up 1 or 2 hours late, in fact not very cool to actually show up on time. It is a "thing" for informal social get togethers. If someone says I'm having a few people over at 6 for drinks. No one will show up until 7:30 at the earliest. Just being cool.
Don't know if this is part of the working girl mentality, but if they are viewing their dates as social events then that is very possible. They see these sorts of appointments as social, not business or like a medical appointment.
Incrociatore
10-04-22, 02:33
From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. 😂 That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOLI found more easily DFK in El Centro than calling some prepago. Prepago in Medellin is too random. It's very unlikely there is a girl behind the number. Usually there is a guy who answers for many girls. El Centro worked better for me in Medellin. And then Facebook of course. But I didn't have many contacts when I was there. I remember I brought home two girls I met in El Centro for a threesome, and one even rimmed my ass. Beautiful face, both young, but both with saggy tits, because they had kids. Which was a huge turn off for me. I couldn't know till I saw them naked.
In Sao Paulo is hard to find hot girls for cheap, but I met a few. The same girls you meet at Scandallo take less than half the money if you manage to meet them in a different context. With one in particular, which I fucked multiple times, I had two different threesome. The first was great because the other girl was really into it, the second one was not, the other girl was a joke. I definitely didn't pay 20 times the price I would have paid en El Centro (for the same time), but it was very hard to find a cheap hot girl. I also had one awful experience with a girl that I called to my place. We agreed for GFE but then she didn't want to kiss. This happened at least 3 times in Sao Paulo. So I said: look, you can go. She asked me money and I refused. The situation escalated till she threatened me with a taser. No need to say she went home without a single real. Also in Brazil I manage to fuck for free, in multiple occasions, one hot girl I met on Tinder. That didn't happen in Colombia. I guess that happened because I have been in Sao Paulo for a very long time. I don't think I could have scored the price I did if I was there for just two weeks. I spent there almost 5 months.
I know a few. I've never approached a girl on a camsite. Rather, I find them on facebook and now through an amiga. It's a common job so its not that hard. It's more likely you'll find women who dabble or do it occasionally than high level pros (though the first one I met does it full time and is relatively successful). Anyway, you have a much higher chance of charming her on normal social media than via a camsite. Just talk to them, meet them and also be aware of their photos on social media as they can clue you in to her job. One of my amigas have clothed cam-style photos on her facebook profile.
Hello, I was experiencing with webcam (mostly gals from Colombia and for this thread, a few medellin cam girls). I started in 2021 as covid restrictions hit Canada and with the cold weather at the time I said why not. Kill some time. Ohhh shout out to those like jjbee22 dropping knowledge and experience. Thanks!.
I agree, I don't consider the facebook scene worth the amount of my time it would consume. It's in the same category as waiting at a carousel in an airport baggage claim area. I don't do that either. If there were any relative benefit I would maybe deal with it from time to time.
It is true that girls will be late or have excuses for not showing up on time and will show up much later. It is part of the game if you decide to use Facebook for mongering. If you are only giving girls a 15 minute grace period, you are going to do a lot of cancelling and you probably should not use Facebook to look for girls. It is also part of the culture in Colombia where time is more easy going. Traffic is also an issue. I would agree that if you are not tolerant of girls being late, you should be seeing streetwalkers, casas and nightclub girls instead. You don't have to put with it if you don't want. FB girls generally will not show up on time. It does take a lot of patience if you want to play the FB game but you don't have to play on FB, there are other options.
The "on time" issue is not just working girls. Had a long class discussion with a spanish teacher from Colombia about this. In social situations it is normal for people to show up 1 or 2 hours late, in fact not very cool to actually show up on time. It is a "thing" for informal social get togethers. If someone says I'm having a few people over at 6 for drinks. No one will show up until 7:30 at the earliest. Just being cool.
Don't know if this is part of the working girl mentality, but if they are viewing their dates as social events then that is very possible. They see these sorts of appointments as social, not business or like a medical appointment.This "open widow of time" for arrival might be true for parties that last through an evening, as it often is in many cultures including the US. But this claim that it's "cultural" for Latin American women to show up for appointments an hour or two late is a myth that is slow to die in forums like this as it goes full circle every month or two. It's very easy to disprove with a simple experiment, leave the girl waiting past the appointed time and watch your phone blow up with frantic messages within 60 seconds. LOL No it's only "Colombia time" when it's your time wasted, but as someone else noted traffic can be a issue so some leeway of about 30 minutes is reasonable.
P.S. Last trip for whatever reason I had several show up early, and a few when I wasn't ready yet. They had to wait.
DandyMan51
10-04-22, 07:17
Finally popped my facebook cherry today when I called Montoya Paulina. I had been messaging her for a couple of days (she initiated contact) and told her to come at around 9:30. She ends up arriving at around 10:45 even after continuous communication. She is the girl in the facebook profile and the pictures are relatively accurate for her body. Her face seems to have been touched up or perhaps is in a better lighting in her profile pictures but isn't as good. Decent bolt on tits but I can still see the scars from when she got them and a very nice ass. She is rather fit. I show her in and we sit for a short while before she asks to take a shower. She asks to go to the bedroom where she does an ok BBBJ and I give her some oral as well as suck her tits and start giving her some kisses. Her kisses are rather weak. There was some tongue but no passion in it at all. We fucked in a couple of positions (doggystyle is good with her since her ass is quite nice and she looks back so you can see her face while you are fucking her. I cum inside the condom and we talk for about 2 minutes before she goes to take a shower. She calls her ride, I give her the standard FB girl rate and gives me a kiss goodbye. Overall, I don't think I would repeat with her since I didn't feel any chemistry between us. She seemed rather tired and mentioned that she has work a 8 in the morning. She has a 10 years old daughter (I think the chica is around 27) and works in a clothing store in Poblado so I think she is a semi-pro. I think she also has a husband / boyfriend who is in on this since she was receiving a call from "amor" while in the shower and left in the same car that dropped her off. I think she probably makes pretty good money though since she had one of the newer iphone models.
A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:
Next week=Never.
Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.
One hour=2-3 hours.
30 minutes=1. 5 hours.
10 minutes= 30 minutes.
SouthernOcean
10-04-22, 11:07
Could someone fill me in on the weather there. Coming first week of November. I know it's usually 60 to about 70 degrees but what about the rain.
QualitySmut
10-04-22, 14:37
On my first trip to Medellin, I was happy with the outcome of meeting girls from Facebook. Yes, there were girls who chatted with me and said they would meet me but did not meet me. There were also girls who confirmed that they would meet me and then ghosted me. But it was far less than my online dating experience in the Philippines. On Facebook, girls usually had a fair number of pictures and most looked like their pictures when they showed up. Most of the girls that I saw were semi-pros or at least girls who denied that they were escorts but were open to pay for play when they need money. Generally I offered 200 to 250 mil for 2 hours. Sometimes transport was included, most times it was extra and I paid the taxi when they arrived. None of the girls were business like and all performances were good to great. Most of the girls were in the 18-21 age range with ID verification at the hotel. I always looked at the ID myself before they entered the hotel and no one lied about their age.
I did not take any girls outside of FB on my first trip. Streetwalkers and casa girls will be on my agenda on a future trip. Yes, it is cheaper in El Centro but I was happy with my experiences with the FB girls coming to my hotel room.
I enjoyed my first visit to Medellin and I will return. I stayed in the Poblado region and I felt safe in the neighborhood. There are places that are more dangerous. I recommend staying in Poblado for newbies.Where are you guys finding girls on FB. Is there some group? Do you just search for girls from the city? Any details on the process would be appreciated. I like your style and would like to try it out.
Could someone fill me in on the weather there. Coming first week of November. I know it's usually 60 to about 70 degrees but what about the rain.This year has had an unseasonable amount of rain. I would definitely bring a light rain jacket and / or a small umbrella. 60 degrees early in the morning or late at night is very comfortable for me but if that is cold to you. You might bring a light jacket or some long sleeve hoodies.
A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:
Next week=Never.
Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.
One hour=2-3 hours.
30 minutes=1. 5 hours.
10 minutes= 30 minutes.This gets discussed periodically. There is the carrot or the stick approach.
Carrot approach: Tell her that if she arrives within 30 minutes of the appointed time she gets a 20 mil propina but if she is 31 minutes late, no propina. (Make it higher if that matters that much to you).
Stick approach: Tell her if she is 30 minutes late the date is cancelled and you will make other plans.
Some girls really have no sense of time, others are semi-pros and don't take cabs that much and have no sense of judging the traffic especially around morning or late afternoons sprawls.
A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:
Next week=Never.
Tomorrow=Ask me a couple hours before you want me.
One hour=2-3 hours.
30 minutes=1. 5 hours.
10 minutes= 30 minutes.Ooops I left out the all American classic which is: Deception. Make your date for 3:00 pm when you really want to start at 4:00 pm.
...A quick note on how Chica time seems to work:...For me, the appointment time for them is the time to start preparing or when they leave their home to come to my place.
Most of these girls do this line of work for a reason. Like your previous report, the agency's girl usually will be on time when they are managed.
I am not sure the generalization is true about the lateness. My guess is the more educated ones with a professional jobs will be more likely to be on time.
I have a date with this girl in Brzail in her club at 5 PM. She was on time. It took one hour to get to the club, and about another hour to get ready in the club. She drew a circle around her face when I asked what were you doing downstairs so long. LOL.
This "open widow of time" for arrival might be true for parties that last through an evening, as it often is in many cultures including the US. But this claim that it's "cultural" for Latin American women to show up for appointments an hour or two late is a myth that is slow to die in forums like this as it goes full circle every month or two. It's very easy to disprove with a simple experiment, leave the girl waiting past the appointed time and watch your phone blow up with frantic messages within 60 seconds. LOL No it's only "Colombia time" when it's your time wasted, but as someone else noted traffic can be a issue so some leeway of about 30 minutes is reasonable.
P.S. Last trip for whatever reason I had several show up early, and a few when I wasn't ready yet. They had to wait.Most of these women deal with gringos so they know that time can be an issue. Hence your phone blowing up. But I do think that the culture there, especially for social events, is more relaxed about time than most of us are used to. Whatever the reason, it is what it is, and if we are in this game, we need to reach a level of comfort unique to each of us. I think it makes for better experience to not get too worked up about it, but go with the flow and have ways to enjoy the time, even during waiting time. I just think the idea of "teaching them a lesson" or trying to change their behavior is a losing battle in the short term. But, to repeat, I think a lot of them are aware that it is a bigger issue with gringos. So over time the more experienced ones may get better at it. So if she shows up on time or early, a good chance she is well experienced with gringos.
Mr Enternational
10-04-22, 17:41
I have a date with this girl in Brzail in her club at 5 PM. She was on time.Maybe she knew you meant business and she had better be on time after you called her an asshole.
...In Sao Paulo is hard to find hot girls for cheap, but I met a few. The same girls you meet at Scandallo take less than half the money if you manage to meet them in a different context. ....You can find them in Clinicas or other cheaper places if you spend enough time scouting those places. I found 3 in a month and I don't have a lot time during the day so I went mostly during weekend.
The problem with El Centron is BBBJ takes work and some luck with new girls if I can only go during weekend and only has one chance. lol. I know it is not just me because my wingman has similar problem. Occasionally, I saw other gringo approached the same girl with translator and was turned down.
I guess half an hour is 30-40 K cop + 7-8 K COP for roach motel but how much is una hora?
Mr Enternational
10-04-22, 18:10
I just think the idea of "teaching them a lesson" or trying to change their behavior is a losing battle in the short term.Not at all a losing battle if you plan to see them again, unless you want the same thing to happen over and over. You got to train them. Just gave a chick the 3rd degree about that the other day. She won't be late again.
Those are all valid points. If you factor them into how you move life becomes complicated. I like to keep it simple. Show up on time, or don't show up. I already covered the exceptions I tolerate.
This gets discussed periodically. There is the carrot or the stick approach.
Carrot approach: Tell her that if she arrives within 30 minutes of the appointed time she gets a 20 mil propina but if she is 31 minutes late, no propina. (Make it higher if that matters that much to you).
Stick approach: Tell her if she is 30 minutes late the date is cancelled and you will make other plans.
Some girls really have no sense of time, others are semi-pros and don't take cabs that much and have no sense of judging the traffic especially around morning or late afternoons sprawls.
Mr Enternational
10-04-22, 18:49
I just think the idea of "teaching them a lesson" or trying to change their behavior is a losing battle in the short term.Not at all a losing battle if you plan to see them again, unless you want the same thing to happen over and over. You got to train them. Just gave a chick the 3rd degree about that the other day. She won't be late again.
Hi everyone, can you suggest a not so expensive hotel closer to energy, I am planning to book 2 rooms, one for personal and other for bringing girls over. I will be working remote and don't want to bring girl to the same room as my work set up. Love motel could you an option but I don't want to deal with logistics and dealing with flaky girls.
Any mid range hotel with chic friendly would be a nice set up for 2nd room. Also how are hostels like Masaya?
Where are you guys finding girls on FB. Is there some group? Do you just search for girls from the city? Any details on the process would be appreciated. I like your style and would like to try it out.Facebook is only a good source for Medellin. You won't have much success using it for other Colombian cities.
Go to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread and search for "Facebook. " You'll find some step-by-step instructions on how to get started.
Maybe she knew you meant business and she had better be on time after you called her an asshole.I didn't know that. LOL. I knew this chick very well by that time.
Hi everyone, can you suggest a not so expensive hotel closer to energy, I am planning to book 2 rooms, one for personal and other for bringing girls over. I will be working remote and don't want to bring girl to the same room as my work set up. Love motel could you an option but I don't want to deal with logistics and dealing with flaky girls.
Any mid range hotel with chic friendly would be a nice set up for 2nd room. Also how are hostels like Masaya?You can just book San Peter Apartments. It is one bed room. Or rent an airbnb with 2 bedroom.
Could someone fill me in on the weather there. Coming first week of November. I know it's usually 60 to about 70 degrees but what about the rain.The weather can be totally unpredictable. Very simply put, it can rain anytime.
There may not be a cloud in the sky, but ten minutes later it can be raining.
So some rules of the road for you. Never ever leave where your staying without an umbrella, and two, wherever your staying, always make sure every window is shut. Especially if your in an apartment because if you leave any windows open you may return to wet floors and furnishings which can be a nightmare to deal with.
Most people who come to Medellin for the first time learn all this the hard way by getting totally drenched from head to foot, and sometimes trying to dry out where they are staying.
Also, it's a good idea to bring at least two pairs of shoes with you.
Sometimes it can rain so hard the streets and sidewalks will overflow, and your shoes will become totally saturated. It's one thing to dry clothes out, but shoes are another matter.
This was a good question you asked.
DandyMan51
10-06-22, 02:30
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k including taxi, OWO, kisses with tongue, and for the girls to have sex with each other. I didn't trust the girls in my apartment so told them to go to a motel near me. We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment. Inside the girls wanted to rush to take a shower and go to the bedroom. This was strike 2 and I again should have sent them away. Once they washed up, Jenni tried to get wet using a vibrator while I tried to kiss both of them. They gave peaks but nothing more. I could smell that Jenni was high. She made up some BS excuse about not being willing to do OWO on me and the Mariana gave me CBJ. Jenni then rode me while Mariana sucked my nipple. I ended up coming like this since I love getting my nipple sucked and I was holding in two days of leche. Jenni said we are done since I came and I told them that it isn't time yet so to give me a massage. She said they would after a shower. They take a shower and give me perhaps the worst massage of my life and I have gotten some pretty shitty massages. After a couple of minutes I just want them to leave. I give her 500 k and say that this is for the whole mess. She refuses and wants the extra 100 k. At this point I just fucking hope I never have to see them again and give them the 100 k and kick them the fuck out. It was an expensive lesson learned and I hope to never deal with this again. The only positive is that I didn't end up paying for the motel so I saved 100 k there. I ended up blocking her on Whatsapp and FB afterwards. She has 2. 8 k friends so chances are that someone here may have the misfortune of dealing with her and hopefully can avoid it. Fuck, I should have just gone to centro and I would have had a better experience for a much lower price. The girls are young (22 and 18 I think) but a complete pissing of pesos.
What a pain in the ass. I'm sorry you had to go through that crap bro. I've seen reviews of facebook girls on here and other websites. It might be work vetting potential dates based on reviews. I hope the rest of your trip goes well.
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k including taxi, OWO, kisses with tongue, and for the girls to have sex with each other. I didn't trust the girls in my apartment so told them to go to a motel near me. We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment. Inside the girls wanted to rush to take a shower and go to the bedroom. This was strike 2 and I again should have sent them away. Once they washed up, Jenni tried to get wet using a vibrator while I tried to kiss both of them. They gave peaks but nothing more. I could smell that Jenni was high. She made up some BS excuse about not being willing to do OWO on me and the Mariana gave me CBJ. Jenni then rode me while Mariana sucked my nipple. I ended up coming like this since I love getting my nipple sucked and I was holding in two days of leche. Jenni said we are done since I came and I told them that it isn't time yet so to give me a massage. She said they would after a shower. They take a shower and give me perhaps the worst massage of my life and I have gotten some pretty shitty massages. After a couple of minutes I just want them to leave. I give her 500 k and say that this is for the whole mess. She refuses and wants the extra 100 k. At this point I just fucking hope I never have to see them again and give them the 100 k and kick them the fuck out. It was an expensive lesson learned and I hope to never deal with this again.
Good advice for sure, the rain is seasonal but as you said it can happen anytime. Mostly it starts around 4 PM and last anywhere from a few minutes, to hours. You get used to it.
The weather can be totally unpredictable. Very simply put, it can rain anytime.
There may not be a cloud in the sky, but ten minutes later it can be raining.
So some rules of the road for you. Never ever leave where your staying without an umbrella, and two, wherever your staying, always make sure every window is shut. Especially if your in an apartment because if you leave any windows open you may return to wet floors and furnishings which can be a nightmare to deal with.
Most people who come to Medellin for the first time learn all this the hard way by getting totally drenched from head to foot, and sometimes trying to dry out where they are staying.
Also, it's a good idea to bring at least two pairs of shoes with you.
Sometimes it can rain so hard the streets and sidewalks will overflow, and your shoes will become totally saturated. It's one thing to dry clothes out, but shoes are another matter..
LoveItHere69
10-06-22, 04:36
This was a good question you asked.Seriously? weather.com, accuweather.com, and list goes on with line graphs and bar graphs. Monthly, daily, hourly updates. Not hard information to find. Just check the hourly forecast each day for one week during the rainy season and that should suffice.
Trio situations usually go poorly and that especially applies when it's the girl's idea. And it's about sure it won't go well if you don't know either of them. They work together, scam together, and whatever they pulled with you they've done before. Regulated environments like casas are usually better for trios. Thanks for sharing.
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k including taxi, OWO, kisses with tongue, and for the girls to have sex with each other. I didn't trust the girls in my apartment so told them to go to a motel near me. We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment. Inside the girls wanted to rush to take a shower and go to the bedroom. This was strike 2 and I again should have sent them away. Once they washed up, Jenni tried to get wet using a vibrator while I tried to kiss both of them. They gave peaks but nothing more. I could smell that Jenni was high. She made up some BS excuse about not being willing to do OWO on me and the Mariana gave me CBJ. Jenni then rode me while Mariana sucked my nipple. I ended up coming like this since I love getting my nipple sucked and I was holding in two days of leche. Jenni said we are done since I came and I told them that it isn't time yet so to give me a massage. She said they would after a shower. They take a shower and give me perhaps the worst massage of my life and I have gotten some pretty shitty massages. After a couple of minutes I just want them to leave.1. Always make certain the girl (s) have their cedula. Stress the point that no cedula means no entry. A picture of a cedula is as useless as a picture of a $100 bill.
2. Never agree to a trio without first sessioning with at least one of the girls. Trios in Colombia are usually a waste of money, especially when both girls are unknowns.
3. Unless you're specifically looking for a trio, don't let someone guide you into one. It's almost certain to be a waste of money, and possibly something much worse.
4. If you make a rule don't break it because the little head wants something. You didn't want the 2 girls in your apartment, then brought them anyway. Not only did you risk them stealing, but bringing in a girl with no cedula and of uncertain age is potentially a very expensive mistake.
5. If a session is shitty, end it. Right from the start it was obvious you weren't getting what you wanted. Get your nut, pay them and show them the door.
Trios in Colombia are rarely the threesome experience you expect. Usually you're just paying someone to watch you fuck and to give the other girl a break so she can check her phone. No lesbian action, not getting double the pleasure. Only do it with someone who you know will give good service and who fully understands what you expect.
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today.
She hasn't changed. About 2 1/2 yrs ago Jenni was my 1st facebook date, & remains to this day, the worst. I've done 20 or so fb dates, & she was truly the only bad 1. She did what I wanted but it was a total rush job. She told me I had an HR. & that was it. Complained all the way through. There are some bad ones out there, she is 1 of the worst!
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