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I am not Colombian. I have used the Medellin kiosk twice.
I don't know what sign you saw but the kiosks are for Colombian citizens only. I have permanent Colombian residency and even I can't use them.
Wow, things have changed. When I first used seeking in 2019, I think more than half the women I saw I was the first one they had met off seeking. I did have two crazies who wanted $300 and $800 per day but I never went over $140 for a session, always got bare, and was stunned at how many women never even mentioned price. I last used it in 2021.
Yeah, I just read this headline on Zero Hedge today, The Percentage Of Americans That Worry They Won't Be Able To Pay Their Bills Is Higher Than It Was During The Great Recession.
After seeing what guys have been paying for the hotties in Colombia and even Mexico, I am not sure it is worth the trouble of going abroad anymore especially if things are this dire in the USA. I first used seeking in 2009 in the USA and it rocked then. In 2018, I remember sending out hundreds of requests and getting like three responses. Around then, I went abroad and things were MUCH better.
Since I have been in Colombia and now know how the women are, if I were seeking out sugar babies now, I would go to college campuses or where young women hang out and be much more direct. If one told me no, I would ask if she had a friend who was interested in being a sugar baby. The women have been I guess the word is trained to seek out men with money, and the higher class women are usually pretty polite. Still, that approach would take time you probably do not have.
But I think the other thing is the good ones are taken or they are in hard to get to areas. When I meet a woman off seeking, I put her in one of four categories: not interested, hooker material, SB material, and very rarely GF or wife material. I have never met GF material off seeking in the USA. I did meet one or two GF material types in Mexico and three in Colombia. I took one off the market, and I have been following my exs on social media, and one just got engaged. She was a sweet as can be teacher, and I am happy for her. The last GF type is still single in a city way off the beaten path.
In short, I think what you are doing and focusing on the USA makes sense at least for now.
And do not worry about Haucho's comments. Like a lot of guys here, he thinks the whole sugar thing is bullshit and all the seeking women are run of the mill hookers engaged in excessively charging men.Before my trip to Bogota I was on seeking the average price girls were asking was 2-300 usd. At that price point I just simply tell talk to them like a hooker and explicitly what I'm looking for.
Smokers Rule
07-25-24, 22:36
I also am American and used it about a month ago. I think this is new; I was surprised when they told me to use it.
Mr Enternational
07-26-24, 01:03
I don't know what sign you saw but the kiosks are for Colombian citizens only. I have permanent Colombian residency and even I can't use them.Maybe you are talking about the entering kiosks which would be true. Others are talking about the departing kiosks which would also be true.
Maybe you are talking about the entering kiosks which would be true. Others are talking about the departing kiosks which would also be true.A friend of mine just left from MDE airport (international flight) this morning and he confirmed that there are no Biomig kiosks for extranjeros. He had to wait in line, speak to a Migracion Colombia agent, and get an exit stamp in his passport. It is only when leaving from BOG El Dorado airport that they have Biomig kiosks for us.
FFlintstone69
07-26-24, 15:07
Before my trip to Bogota I was on seeking the average price girls were asking was 2-300 usd. At that price point I just simply tell talk to them like a hooker and explicitly what I'm looking for.He and others argue that there are different strata for hookers, if that's true, then there is this to explain.
How some mongers are overcharged, different stratas for mongers.
https://www.wbez.org/race-out-loud/2012/08/29/asian-american-men-less-likely-to-date-interacially
I myself thinks there are different strata for hookers, they are as follows.
Doable vs undoable not even at the barrel of a gun (probably 90-95% fall into the later category).
The other strata is pleasers vs scammers.
IME the higher the price a hooker charges the more mercenary she is and the less of a pleaser she is.
In closing, market price is eventually determined by what the outliers pay (are overcharged).
Before my trip to Bogota I was on seeking the average price girls were asking was 2-300 usd. At that price point I just simply tell talk to them like a hooker and explicitly what I'm looking for.If asking those prices, money up front, then she is a prostitute. They can give themselves softer names like sugar baby, escort, companion, part-timer, semi-pro, but no real difference. Only difference is she charges more cause she can and she has 5 guys a month instead of 20.
We are men, like to at least believe the woman we are with is more exclusive to us than others. Not usually true.
My experience with Seeking is 50% or more profiles are fake / bots, other 45% are prostitutes of different price levels, 5% are curious normal women. Unfortunately, when the Colombianas working IG, FB, Cupid figured out guys on seeking pay more, they go strictly on Seeking and ask for more. I too cannot find correlation between price paid and a good time, good sex. If anything, the prettier the more distanced they are, less they want to do. Almost like they are doing me a favor.
But Seeking is good for those that prefer to window shop before the interaction, prefer to spend time at home in comfort instead of boots on the ground doing the preliminary arrangements. And have the money to spare for that comfort.
The high end customers always existed, only difference is that they are now also traveling and looking into less costly countries to fly women from. I remember 10 years ago sitting at a Toronto strip club talking with a hot curvy blonde after a lap dance. She said she had a regular older guy in California. Out of the blue he would call on her to go there business class flight and would give her a blank cheque for the weekend. She said she used to just cash 1 K, not to burn bridges.
So, yes, our money is ours to spend as we wish, but we also understand that it does raise the median price for those that choose Colombia due to the expected lower cost of sex. Frankly, women are smarter than us men, they know we are too individualistic and don't care about the next guy, while they slowly united under the feminist movement.
I see we got a real connoisseur here! I've messaged Vane probably 30 times in the past two years trying to get an appointment through text and no such luck. Her telegram channels always get me bone hard whenever I open them. She definitely is popular with the Medellin locals too. That Poblado building has some of the best of the best imo in Medellin. Another blonde favorite of mine in that building is Dulce and also Dafpne who's got a great body. They're both flacas and offer great services. If you can get a hold of Mia out of Laureles near La 70, she is one of the few in Medellin that I repeat and am a regular on a name basis. Hard to get a hold of, but she has a rockin' body and service that will not disappoint. Like you said, getting a hold of these top rated local favorites is like a 1 in 1000 odds for the day and like playing crapshoot.
300 K for 1 hour.
Ahh The most hype hooker in all of Medellin and possibly all of Colombia, the Paisa Pornstar review of everyone's favorite. Vanessa.
She needs no introduction but for those who are new here we are talking about Vanessa. She has been working in Medellin on and off for 5 + years. She will say 3 years because she took off for pandemic and lived off tips from her porn / webcam days. Anyway let's get into the action.
A friend of mine just left from MDE airport (international flight) this morning and he confirmed that there are no Biomig kiosks for extranjeros. He had to wait in line, speak to a Migracion Colombia agent, and get an exit stamp in his passport. It is only when leaving from BOG El Dorado airport that they have Biomig kiosks for us.Wrong. I used the biomig kiosk in April when leaving MDE (back to the States). I didn't speak to an agent and didn't get an exit stamp.
AmorPorFavor
07-27-24, 04:59
Wrong. I used the biomig kiosk in April when leaving MDE (back to the States). I didn't speak to an agent and didn't get an exit stamp.Same here at the end of May. In fact an agent announced to everybody in line that all extranjeros had to use the biomig. Now can we put this topic to bed?
I'm done with the topic. At the same time, it is entertaining to learn the basis on which some of us make authoritative statements in the group.
Same here at the end of May. In fact an agent announced to everybody in line that all extranjeros had to use the biomig. Now can we put this topic to bed?
Same here at the end of May. In fact an agent announced to everybody in line that all extranjeros had to use the biomig. Now can we put this topic to bed?
Wrong. I used the biomig kiosk in April when leaving MDE (back to the States). I didn't speak to an agent and didn't get an exit stamp.Those happened two and three months ago, so we can't put it to bed. I left MDE last week and they were not directing any foreigners to use the kiosks. A sign above the kiosks plainly stated that they are for Colombian citizens. Earlier this year, an agent directed me to use the kiosks. That was the first and only time I have used them.
When I left last week, there was a fairly long line with only two agents. I think they would have been directing people to use the kiosks if that was an option. A few Latinos used them, so they were operational.
Those happened two and three months ago, so we can't put it to bed. I left MDE last week and they were not directing any foreigners to use the kiosks. A sign above the kiosks plainly stated that they are for Colombian citizens. Earlier this year, an agent directed me to use the kiosks. That was the first and only time I have used them.
When I left last week, there was a fairly long line with only two agents. I think they would have been directing people to use the kiosks if that was an option. A few Latinos used them, so they were operational.Thank you for clarifying with the most recent up-to-date information about the situation in regard to the Biomig kiosks not being available to extranjeros leaving Colombia from the MDE airport, bro.
Wrong. I used the biomig kiosk in April when leaving MDE (back to the States). I didn't speak to an agent and didn't get an exit stamp.So it appears that it is you who is actually wrong Miamiboy. It was in fact my information that reflected the current situation at MDE.
Just last week, in the stupid shit in Medellin thread, I told you that you should make sure you do you research before you open your mouth and make false statements. Apparently you prefer to make a fool of yourself in front of everyone here.
-Gabacho.
Those happened two and three months ago, so we can't put it to bed. I left MDE last week and they were not directing any foreigners to use the kiosks. A sign above the kiosks plainly stated that they are for Colombian citizens. Earlier this year, an agent directed me to use the kiosks. That was the first and only time I have used them.
When I left last week, there was a fairly long line with only two agents. I think they would have been directing people to use the kiosks if that was an option. A few Latinos used them, so they were operational.The answer is sometimes yes, sometimes no. I left MDE about a week ago and they were directing foreigners to use the kiosks The kiosks show the Canadian, US and Colombian flags on the initial screen as nationalities that can use it. Some agents recognize the change, others do not. That is my opinion.
I would just try to use the kiosks next time since it works with foreign passports from the US at least.
Hopefully that is the last post on this topic.
InsolentSpike
07-27-24, 15:56
A friend of mine just left from MDE airport (international flight) this morning and he confirmed that there are no Biomig kiosks for extranjeros. He had to wait in line, speak to a Migracion Colombia agent, and get an exit stamp in his passport. It is only when leaving from BOG El Dorado airport that they have Biomig kiosks for us.
When I left last week, there was a fairly long line with only two agents. I think they would have been directing people to use the kiosks if that was an option. A few Latinos used them, so they were operational.I left Medellin this Thursday 7/25/24 and my situation was exactly as Fun Luvr said. There was a HUGE line at 7 am with ONLY two agents and the only people using BioMig were Colombians as that line specifically said for Colombians only. There was a sign that said to enroll in BioMig to make it easy but upon entering that website the first statement that appears is Solo Para Colombianos.
I have only used BioMig once in Colombia and that was in El Dorado Bogota on Dec 31,2023 when the lines were so long that agents told EVERYONE to use BioMig to alleviate the pressure of continuous missed flights due to delays.
I see we got a real connoisseur here! I've messaged Vane probably 30 times in the past two years trying to get an appointment through text and no such luck. Her telegram channels always get me bone hard whenever I open them. She definitely is popular with the Medellin locals too. That Poblado building has some of the best of the best imo in Medellin. Another blonde favorite of mine in that building is Dulce and also Dafpne who's got a great body. They're both flacas and offer great services. If you can get a hold of Mia out of Laureles near La 70, she is one of the few in Medellin that I repeat and am a regular on a name basis. Hard to get a hold of, but she has a rockin' body and service that will not disappoint. Like you said, getting a hold of these top rated local favorites is like a 1 in 1000 odds for the day and like playing crapshoot.Greetings!
Could you share the Instagram or Facebook of these girls? I don't know them.
Dcrist0527
07-28-24, 02:26
The level of stubborness mixed with a healthy dose of ego on this board is staggering. Forgive me for belaboring the BioMig point. But why do so many insist that their own personal experience makes them the expert on seemingly everything? As though it's invonceivable that if I didn't get pushed to the BioMig line, it never happens. Ever. Smh We see it in rating a woman's appearance. Her skills. Her pricing. How many times have I been told I can't get a girl from Gustos for under $200 USD? Hahaha I've been mongering long enough to know and understand rule number 1. YMMV. That goes for virtually any experience in life.
This board is best when sharing experiences. Not when we make definitive statements as though we are omniscient.
DonCarlos1234
07-28-24, 07:34
He and others argue that there are different strata for hookers, if that's true, then there is this to explain.
How some mongers are overcharged, different stratas for mongers.
https://www.wbez.org/race-out-loud/2012/08/29/asian-american-men-less-likely-to-date-interacially
I myself thinks there are different strata for hookers, they are as follows.
Doable vs undoable not even at the barrel of a gun (probably 90-95% fall into the later category).
The other strata is pleasers vs scammers.
IME the higher the price a hooker charges the more mercenary she is and the less of a pleaser she is.
In closing, market price is eventually determined by what the outliers pay (are overcharged).Geez. Less risk, reliability, credibility and up front pricing. Not like buying a used car. Although kicking the tires in person you can still have that (FFRUSTRATING) EXPEIENCE. https://lacelestina.co/.
In closing, market price is eventually determined by what the outliers pay (are overcharged).With all due respect, you cannot state this with certainly. Even if it is just your opinion it is dead wrong. First you do not know what the outliers pay. Second if you think that then your thoughts run counter to how every other efficient market works in the world.
Market prices are discovered. Buyers and sellers come to together and negotiate on prices. It is through those negotiations and deals that are actually closed that market price is determined. Problem is, pussy prices are not entered into the order book and then tracked as each deal is made.
But if you can imagine that they are their is the indicator called Volume Price Visual Range. That is a look the amount of volume at different price points at in a particular market. As those who are familiar with basic statistics this indicator usually shows you visual on a chart the volume at different price points and it looks like a standard bell curve. That mean the price were most buyers and sellers are willing to do business is at the top of the bell curve.
Now I can image (but I cannot prove) that pussy prices the world over look like that. There will always be deals that or outliers both high and low, but over all the prices will be in the middle of those ranges.
Here is the problem: I say Pussy is Pussy when it comes to hiring prostitutes. That is because I stay focused on the deal not the girl. I am not saying I am right. But I am constantly accused of being a lesser person because I pay lower prices. As if the driver of a Kia is a lesser driver than one who owns a BMW. They are both drivers as both punters who pay both high prices and low prices are.
In my opinion, it is not how much you pay. I am only interested in the amount and the services you get for it. I pay low prices as I am satisfied with basic services. If I want GFE I have real girlfriends for that. If you are doing a threesome and you are pulling out of one girls ass and going into the other girls mouth, yeah you might be paying more than I do for those prostitutes than I pay for mine.
For the record: please note I am posting this while I am in Pattaya. Am I allowed to do that?
Landed just after midnight, got to the hotel in Poblado at around 1:45 am, quick cleanup, went to Calle 10 and did the tour with an Įguila in my hand at 2 am.
Around 3 am after interviewing several potential candidates, went with Valentina, light skinned morena with spectacular frizzy hair and pretty eyes.
Said she was 19, which seems right. Body was spectacular. Tits just the best you could ask for.
No bare anything, but she put in extra effort and gave me the full hour. I gave her $200 k. Well worth it for the experience.
Later I went with Stefania, similar style to Valentina, but a recent mother with a 9 month old, so lots of complaining about not squeezing or sucking her tits too hard. Also $200 k.
Both gave good oral, Valentina was better, and much, much better sex. Lots of great eye contact and moaning. Like I said before, I don't care if they're acting, I just want them to be good actresses!
Lots and lots of gringos. Holy crap! I heard more English than Spanish on several occasions on Calle 10 and Parque Lleras!
New to the forum and mongering, plan on going to medellin in September I have been reading up the information on the board and searching some threads. The forum has a lot of information and I used it to book the trip and looking forward to it. I still have some questions and if someone will be kind enough to answer.
Little context and information on the trip and myself, I am older gentelmen in mid fifties and this will be my first time there, also I know very little spanish.
I plan on hanging around the tourist areas of el poblado, I prefer to look at what I am getting and not be surprised so will be most probably be going to el parque area for getting action.
1. Whats the best place for getting chicas for daytime action I prefer to have them back in my room.
2. What are some places to get short term daytime rental around poblado area since my hotel only allows one guest allowance which I plan to use for night time action?
3. Will be visiting the strip clubs to get the expeirence or get the numbers for the day time action. Is it ok to hang around the clubs and don't take a chica back and get there numbers or is it frowned upon by etablishments?
4. What is the best time to go to parque illereas for best selection and quantity are there more girls there ealry around 8 pm or late night lets say 11 or Midnight?
5. What are the best resources to learn some conversational spanish fast apart from duolingo?
6. There are lots of referneces to Instagram and facebook girls here but I haven't been able to find a solid guide on that is there a link or guide on this free or paid?
Thanks.
BlueChange
07-29-24, 03:09
I see we got a real connoisseur here! I've messaged Vane probably 30 times in the past two years trying to get an appointment through text and no such luck. Her telegram channels always get me bone hard whenever I open them. She definitely is popular with the Medellin locals too. That Poblado building has some of the best of the best imo in Medellin. Another blonde favorite of mine in that building is Dulce and also Dafpne who's got a great body. They're both flacas and offer great services. If you can get a hold of Mia out of Laureles near La 70, she is one of the few in Medellin that I repeat and am a regular on a name basis. Hard to get a hold of, but she has a rockin' body and service that will not disappoint. Like you said, getting a hold of these top rated local favorites is like a 1 in 1000 odds for the day and like playing crapshoot.Yeah it I've had dulce before but she is at that OTHER Pilar.
Building in poblado. Her face is a bit aged but still good for flask.
Getting vane is basically timing, just message her before she starts getting her WhatsApp like I said.
Around 8:55-9:30 . Middle of the week also helps, ignore her telegram and to be honest. She is good but I'm sure there are better. She is like a touristy resturant that gets.
Hyped up in TikTok, the thrill is getting the reservation, not the meal. But still fun. Good luck!
Lots of girls in the park yesterday afternoon, so I chose another light skinned girl, this time with braids. First we got some micheladas, then to my room. Based on how flirtatious she was, I had high expectations! They were met and exceeded!
Goes on by Andrea, from Barranquilla. Interesting accent. Has a 4 year old daughter, but no baby damage. Tits are the hanger type, great nipples and she loves getting them sucked! Lots of moaning, absolutely fantastic cowgirl grinding. Reverse was even better because she has a tattoo on her ass: Yes Daddy with a flame behind Daddy. Great stuff.
$200 k again, Torre Poblado did not charge me a guest fee for her. Bareback oral and sex, close to 2 hours total, well worth it.
Later we go back to the same place where we had our beers and we got more drinks, some food and her pretty black friend joined us. Later I took the black girl to my room, she stayed the night. 2 full bareback sessions, 10 hours at my hotel. Gave her $400 k. Not as great sex as her friend but she was so fucking sexy, I just had to try her. Re-Learned my lesson. The more flirtatious and sex shit talkers they are, generally the better performance. Not a washout by any means, but could have been better if it was her friend's level of performance.
Landed just after midnight, got to the hotel in Poblado at around 1:45 am, quick cleanup, went to Calle 10 and did the tour with an guila in my hand at 2 am.
Around 3 am after interviewing several potential candidates, went with Valentina, light skinned morena with spectacular frizzy hair and pretty eyes.
Said she was 19, which seems right. Body was spectacular. Tits just the best you could ask for.
No bare anything, but she put in extra effort and gave me the full hour. I gave her $200 k. Well worth it for the experience.
Later I went with Stefania, similar style to Valentina, but a recent mother with a 9 month old, so lots of complaining about not squeezing or sucking her tits too hard. Also $200 k.
Both gave good oral, Valentina was better, and much, much better sex. Lots of great eye contact and moaning. Like I said before, I don't care if they're acting, I just want them to be good actresses!
Lots and lots of gringos. Holy crap! I heard more English than Spanish on several occasions on Calle 10 and Parque Lleras!Thanks for the report just curious if you speak spanish pretty well?
Mr Enternational
07-30-24, 00:49
let me describe my experience returning to the United States. There have been a lot of horror stories about guy's cellphones being searched and being asked a lot of questions when they return.Your worries are over. This is one hour old. Just came across my desk.
"Customs agents need a warrant to search your phone now / A federal judge ruled that warrantless phone searches at ports of entry violate the Fourth Amendment. ".
https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/29/24209130/customs-border-protection-unlock-phone-warrant-new-york-jfk
DiscoverFL
07-30-24, 19:11
Your worries are over. This is one hour old. Just came across my desk.
"Customs agents need a warrant to search your phone now / A federal judge ruled that warrantless phone searches at ports of entry violate the Fourth Amendment. ".
https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/29/24209130/customs-border-protection-unlock-phone-warrant-new-york-jfkLast sentence in the first paragraph: "it only applies to New York's Eastern District".
DiscoverFL
07-30-24, 19:32
New to the forum and mongering, plan on going to medellin in September I have been reading up the information on the board and searching some threads. The forum has a lot of information and I used it to book the trip and looking forward to it. I still have some questions and if someone will be kind enough to answer. Little context and information on the trip and myself, I am older gentelmen in mid fifties and this will be my first time there, also I know very little spanish.Hey grandpa, I'm a younger guy in my mid-fifties. Ha ha.
1. Best place for daytime action is WhatsApp. I. E. Get girls numbers and arrange daytime. Otherwise visit CASAS or massage places (where you can easily also get numbers).
2. There are some hourly love hotels outside of Poblado (cab ride), but easier to get an AirBnb or hotel that allows unlimited visitors. Cancel and rebook. If unsure, stay your first visit at The Mansion / Hotel M and while not the fanciest rooms, you will be with a friendly monger crowd.
3. Strip club is good for a visit experience; not sure those are the girl $ I'd get numbers for daytime action. In person, buy a drink. Chat a bit. Get a number, that's a lot easier.
4. Best time to hit Park Lleras, from sundown to bar closings.
5. There are several Spanish speaking schools in Manila, if staying longer than a week, they can work quite well. Girls are all used to Google Translate though.
6. How to find Facebook or Instagram girls: way too much good guidance here in older posts, can't really reduce it to one line.
If this is your first visit, plan on hitting the bar at the Mansion / Hotel M one night or two. Great place to get numbers without street hustle.
Hey grandpa, I'm a younger guy in my mid-fifties. Ha ha.
1. Best place for daytime action is WhatsApp. I. E. Get girls numbers and arrange daytime. Otherwise visit CASAS or massage places (where you can easily also get numbers).
2. There are some hourly love hotels outside of Poblado (cab ride), but easier to get an AirBnb or hotel that allows unlimited visitors. Cancel and rebook. If unsure, stay your first visit at The Mansion / Hotel M and while not the fanciest rooms, you will be with a friendly monger crowd.
3. Strip club is good for a visit experience; not sure those are the girl $ I'd get numbers for daytime action. In person, buy a drink. Chat a bit. Get a number, that's a lot easier.
4. Best time to hit Park Lleras, from sundown to bar closings.
5. There are several Spanish speaking schools in Manila, if staying longer than a week, they can work quite well. Girls are all used to Google Translate though.
6. How to find Facebook or Instagram girls: way too much good guidance here in older posts, can't really reduce it to one line.
If this is your first visit, plan on hitting the bar at the Mansion / Hotel M one night or two. Great place to get numbers without street hustle.Haha thanks for making me feel young and thanks for responding to my questions much appreciated.
I'm thinking to get personal Hotspot so I can remotely without having to worry about hotel wifi quality. Anyone got a 5 g mobile Hotspot experience that they can share?
I'm down to the last week of a 16 Week trip to Medellin Fucking Colombia and Oh what a trip it's been!
Started out as a 2 week breather and then it was decided I needed a longer breather.
I was here last year for 9-10 weeks and 2 weeks back in 2019, so I know the lay of the land so to speak.
My Spanish is fairly fluent having lived and worked in Latin America 15+ years of my 65 trips around the sun so no problems communicating.
Prior to my arrival I'd contacted a personal trainer I used last year (Great Guy) and setup a workout routine to try and get my old ass back into some sort of Fucking shape.
Started at about 225 lbs at 6"2 I'm down to 197 lbs and have gained a lot of muscle and am walking taller ((he and I work out at the AirBnb's gym).
I also contacted several of the Chicas who had arranged a decent welcome back party at the bad ass AirBnb I'd rented, Wine Women and Song so to speak.
They had brought a new gal and she got the DrHosem treatment of Fuck suck and a big load of cum on her face as her friends held cameras, that weren't on tripods, as she got her facial.
That was the start of the 16 weeks and same theme has has continued on, I get about 6-10 nuts a week with most of them landing on a 18-23 year old colombianas face, a few on tits and some left in their tight little cunts. They all get dressed up in **** wear with High-heels being a prerequisite.
Tons of videos and photos and the Chicas are all ready to entertain others. I'll upload some later if requested (Very small file limits here, Options?
I go out and eat 2 X a week.
Eat fairly healthily in the Aparment, when I don't cave into ordering Pizza or?? Whatever for the Sluts (Term of Endearment IMO).
I use UBER to shuttle them and Rappi to order groceries and Restaurants.
I'm thinking to get personal Hotspot so I can remotely without having to worry about hotel wifi quality. Anyone got a 5 g mobile Hotspot experience that they can share?I pay a relatively small fee to Verizon and can use my Cell in Colombia, voice and data are included. Think it covers various countries.
Even if I didn't use the data the calls I get from the USA that I have to answer would cost more than the fee.
I also have a burner that I use, TIGO.
Yeah, I speak decent Spanish. Or at least that's what everyone tells me. I think it's more than good enough to get around and it's a must have in my opinion to have better experiences with the girls.
With Spanish, you can flirt with them, be funny, etc and it improves the overall experience many times over.
Google translate works, obviously, but it reduces the whole interaction to a sales transaction and less a human to human interaction.
My opinion, obviously, others may feel differently, but I my experience Spanish has been very beneficial.
Take your time, take Duolingo or Babbel, go to local Spanish meetup groups and practice. You'll be much better off than not speaking any.
Thanks for the report just curious if you speak spanish pretty well?
I'm down to the last week of a 16 Week trip to Medellin Fucking Colombia and Oh what a trip it's been!....Where do you find your chicas and how much you give them?
DiscoverFL
07-31-24, 17:36
I'm thinking to get personal Hotspot so I can remotely without having to worry about hotel wifi quality. Anyone got a 5 g mobile Hotspot experience that they can share?You can just check your current cell provider to extend their hotspot coverage. 5 g coverage in Medellin is sketchy, so most of it will be 4 g. If your phone support eSim, you can add one of the many eSim's available as a 2nd data line for extra data.
Elvis 2008
07-31-24, 17:56
I'm thinking to get personal Hotspot so I can remotely without having to worry about hotel wifi quality. Anyone got a 5 g mobile Hotspot experience that they can share?Your best bet is having a phone with google fi cell service on it.
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed, if they do then I don't call them back, and when they call me, I tell them why and will usually give them a second chance to be a real cum-guzzling pornstar.
I'm down to the last week of a 16 Week trip to Medellin Fucking Colombia and Oh what a trip it's been!
Started out as a 2 week breather and then it was decided I needed a longer breather.
I was here last year for 9-10 weeks and 2 weeks back in 2019, so I know the lay of the land so to speak.
My Spanish is fairly fluent having lived and worked in Latin America 15+ years of my 65 trips around the sun so no problems communicating.
Prior to my arrival I'd contacted a personal trainer I used last year (Great Guy) and setup a workout routine to try and get my old ass back into some sort of Fucking shape.
Started at about 225 lbs at 6"2 I'm down to 197 lbs and have gained a lot of muscle and am walking taller ((he and I work out at the AirBnb's gym).
I also contacted several of the Chicas who had arranged a decent welcome back party at the bad ass AirBnb I'd rented, Wine Women and Song so to speak.
They had brought a new gal and she got the DrHosem treatment of Fuck suck and a big load of cum on her face as her friends held cameras, that weren't on tripods, as she got her facial.
That was the start of the 16 weeks and same theme has has continued on, I get about 6-10 nuts a week with most of them landing on a 18-23 year old colombianas face, a few on tits and some left in their tight little cunts. They all get dressed up in **** wear with High-heels being a prerequisite.
Tons of videos and photos and the Chicas are all ready to entertain others. I'll upload some later if requested (Very small file limits here, Options?
I go out and eat 2 X a week.
Eat fairly healthily in the Aparment, when I don't cave into ordering Pizza or?? Whatever for the Sluts (Term of Endearment IMO).
I use UBER to shuttle them and Rappi to order groceries and Restaurants.
FFlintstone69
08-01-24, 12:00
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed, if they do then I don't call them back, and when they call me, I tell them why and will usually give them a second chance to be a real cum-guzzling pornstar.Your photos resemble MaxHardcore aka Paul Little.
I run a sexcation agency, which includes Medellin.
I've noticed for the past year, more and more "girl-friendly" hotels are charging to bring in girls. And those that were charging before have doubled their prices. Now my GF hotels list is crap!
Hampton is now charging 150 k.
A client just told me he was charged 200 k at Art Hotel! (it was one of my top 5 GF hotels).
Seems all hotels in Poblado are charging, and some of my clients don't want to stay in El Centro.
What hotels are still girl-friendly?
Provenza lofts and Viktory Boutique are both Girl friendly. Nice hotels and great value actually. Many rooms have Jacuzzis and one with private pool. I reported on them a few times. Haven rooftop breakfast included for Provenza lofts and I think breakfast is included if you rent Viktory pool suite.
I run a sexcation agency, which includes Medellin.
I've noticed for the past year, more and more "girl-friendly" hotels are charging to bring in girls. And those that were charging before have doubled their prices. Now my GF hotels list is crap!
Hampton is now charging 150 k.
A client just told me he was charged 200 k at Art Hotel! (it was one of my top 5 GF hotels).
Seems all hotels in Poblado are charging, and some of my clients don't want to stay in El Centro.
What hotels are still girl-friendly?
Very nice post man. Awesome photos. You did not have share but you did. Thank you.
BTW, great reminder about the personal trainer. I keep forgetting to look for one.
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed, if they do then I don't call them back, and when they call me, I tell them why and will usually give them a second chance to be a real cum-guzzling pornstar.
Iguana Six
08-04-24, 03:33
Last sentence in the first paragraph: "it only applies to New York's Eastern District".
It is not a warrantless search. Customs conducts "inspections" for contraband items.
That has always been the legal basis for inspections. They don't need probable cause or a warrant. If they had infinite time and resources, they could search every bag coming out of every plane at every international port of entry.
They can inspect your bags for drugs, or contaminated fruit, your wallet for more than $10,000 in undeclared money, or your laptop or phone for (censored) images or the top secret blueprints for the X-35 thermonuclear annihilator.
So I'm writing this shortly after all the cop cars left. Apparently across the street in my apartment in Medellin an older gentleman was arrested for being with a minor. It's not only story I've heard lately but haven't been seeing these stories pop up on the news lately. My guess is they don't want the bad press. Careful guys, if a young girl is pressuring you just before you block her ask her if she'll serve time with you in prison. The thought of rotting away in a Colombian prison is probably the most horrifying thing I can think of. No way.
So I'm writing this shortly after all the cop cars left. Apparently across the street in my apartment in Medellin an older gentleman was arrested for being with a minor. It's not only story I've heard lately but haven't been seeing these stories pop up on the news lately. I can confirm that arrests are being made almost daily. Make sure to check all IDs of the girls you are with. I can also confirm that they are still setting up stings in Lleras. I know someone who got expulsed recently for solliciting a girl in Lleras (not underage). There was an australian who made the news a few months back for the same thing but they don't seem to be publishing recent cases.
If you go to MDE the current advice I would give is to go to casas or find girls online and double check their ID when you meet them.
Don't do illegal shit and you will be less likely to get locked up. Your current advice is also past and future advice. If you want to show up on youtube identified as a passport bro or sex tourist, hanging around Parque Lleras is a good way to make it happen.
I can confirm that arrests are being made almost daily. Make sure to check all IDs of the girls you are with. I can also confirm that they are still setting up stings in Lleras. I know someone who got expulsed recently for solliciting a girl in Lleras (not underage). There was an australian who made the news a few months back for the same thing but they don't seem to be publishing recent cases.
If you go to MDE the current advice I would give is to go to casas or find girls online and double check their ID when you meet them.
Smokers Rule
08-05-24, 20:19
This is great. How much does this cost you?
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times..
CowboyCheeba
08-06-24, 07:19
Provenza lofts and Viktory Boutique are both Girl friendly. Nice hotels and great value actually. Many rooms have Jacuzzis and one with private pool. I reported on them a few times. Haven rooftop breakfast included for Provenza lofts and I think breakfast is included if you rent Viktory pool suite.Do they charge anything for your guest chicas? What's the process there? I stayed at plaza poblado and I had to pay with a card to let my chica come up with me, I think it was 150,000 COP each time. AndI had to wait and sign the receipt. No billing to the room. You have to settle up then and there.
Really annoying and can kind of be awkward because you're not meeting the chica yet, you're playing cashier while she waits on you to finish.
GeorgeCarta22
08-06-24, 07:30
Thanks for the report but these girl type are really not my taste. I guess I'm just stuck paying gringo prices (I still negotiate) at gusto if I don't have time to do a gold mine hunt.
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed, if they do then I don't call them back, and when they call me, I tell them why and will usually give them a second chance to be a real cum-guzzling pornstar.
Thanks for the report but these girl type are really not my taste. I guess I'm just stuck paying gringo prices (I still negotiate) at gusto if I don't have time to do a gold mine hunt.It's not just you. I don't find the girls he showed attractive at all but everybody has their taste and there is all types of girls in Colombia.
It's not just you. I don't find the girls he showed attractive at all but everybody has their taste and there is all types of girls in Colombia.I agree with you except for the one doing her hair, with her boobs showing. Nice boobs and no visible tattoos.
Here is a small selection of Hosems-Hoes (As mentioned I like videoing and taking fotos, all the gals have agreed to and signed releases and they know before they show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed, if they do then I don't call them back, and when they call me, I tell them why and will usually give them a second chance to be a real cum-guzzling pornstar.Thanks for the photos. I have only one thing to say to the critics - "Post pics of girls you have banged and then I'll take you seriously". Chances are they are not able to post pics of hotter or even girls of similar hotness.
Thanks for the report but these girl type are really not my taste. This is his taste. If you enjoy any of these then you actually have similar tastes. I think you prefer better looking girls which just mean you have narrower taste with less selection.
show up that they are going to get dressed up in ****-wear, and at a mimimum, do a BBBJ COHF scene. Most of them love it and come back numerous times.
No Cum dodgers allowed
Obviously there are a lot of guys here that spend a lot of time in MDE, if not live there. I have been going 4-5 times per year for a long weekend for the past 5 or 6 years. Before that I was a regular in San Jose, Costa Rica. I still go there for dental work. Does anyone have recommendations for good dental clinics in MDE that does general dentistry and cosmetic dentistry such as implants, crowns, etc? Would prefer to do in MDE and SJO has long passed its prime in our activities of choice.
Thanks and happy hunting.
Snook.
It's not just you. I don't find the girls he showed attractive at all.The thing is, he is NOT having sex with them to please YOU! He is doing it for his own pleasure. Just further evidence that 1-10 scale is total bollox.
If you go to MDE the current advice I would give is to go to casas or find girls online and double check their ID when you meet them.'underage' girls could use fake / friends' IDs, so what is your great idea then? I know a place where you can have an ID card made up for COP 50,000. If stupid me can do it in a few minutes, how easy it would be for more cunning minds?
The thing is, he is NOT having sex with them to please YOU! He is doing it for his own pleasure. Just further evidence that 1-10 scale is total bollox.I see you have no reading comprehension, I clearly state that everybody has their taste. Talk about getting on your high horse for nothing.
'underage' girls could use fake / friends' IDs, so what is your great idea then? I know a place where you can have an ID card made up for COP 50,000. If stupid me can do it in a few minutes, how easy it would be for more cunning minds?So what? There is no risk free mongering. It is all about lowering your risk not eliminating it otherwise just stay home. Checking IDs significantly lowers your risk even if fake IDs are a possibility.
LoveItHere69
08-06-24, 22:02
Just further evidence that 1-10 scale is total bollox.Facial beautiy is arguementative for sure but not so much body type. 1-10 rating for body type is not BS.
There is a body type most men (and women) prefer. Thinner hour glass body with big boobs. That should generally be used as the basis of most 1 to 10 grading systems.
Stand outside a church and ask the people leaving church if they are religious. Fake poll. Funny that every 10 years science has concluded that eggs, wine, coffee are good for you, then bad, then good. I do not care what polls were taken or what science says. Follow the money stupid!
Why were padded and push up bras made? Big boobs attract guys.
Search the top earning females of OnlyFans. See any itty bitty titties or fat or really skinny?
Search images "trophy wives".
Search images "Miss Universe bikini". Not huge boobs because women would say sexist men blah blah blah. Not small because then guys would not watch.
Search images "Maxim magazine covers" or "Playboy magazine covers". Sports Illustrated's highest selling magazine every year is the bikini issue with the same body type.
Comic books are universally sold to boys. Look at the bodies of all the women in those comics. If you do happen to find a super skinny, small boobs, or fat woman I am pretty sure she is the villain. Manga from Japan shows small boobs but most of those characters are girls rather than women.
Number one selling doll is who? Barbie! Unrealistic body but we can all dream. In fact, Barbie is #2 of the most sold toys ever. Second only to video games.
Top 10 Best-selling Toys of All Time (2023) (moneyinc.com).
The #1 selling poster of all time is of Farrah Fawcett. Her swimsuit in that poster is now in the National Museum of American History of the Smithsonian Museum.
Do you know who Aitana Lopez from a modelling agency from Spain is? She has 124,000 followers on Instagram and makes roughly $11,000 USD per month. She is an AI created woman who does NOT exist! Obviously, that body type sells huh?
Women do not get breast reductions to look sexy. They do it for their health because it is a massive amount of weight which is horrible for their health. But women around the world do get breast implants to make them bigger. Why do you think they do that?
Do a generic images search of "sexy women". All the search engines have different algorithms and yet the same body type is found.
Lastly, look at the very ads at the top and sides of this very site. Some are images are of real women and some are cartoonish. Do you see a certain body type? Do you think the owners did any kind of research as to what type of female image they should use in order to get a guy to click onto their link?
Polls and "science" mean nothing. Where is the money spent?
I went to Zandaly late last week to spend a bit of time with a favorite friend. She was returning from an "All Hands" meeting of the workers. Seems that the clients are getting pretty rough with the girls recently, and this is going to come to a halt. First, try to rough up a lady, you will get yourself thrown out. Second you will be banned in all the major venues. Finally, if you are really out of order, you might get to spend a night as a guest of the Alcalde of Medellin.
Just a word, I am sure that none of us are like this.
Sandy.
Obviously there are a lot of guys here that spend a lot of time in MDE, if not live there. I have been going 4-5 times per year for a long weekend for the past 5 or 6 years. Before that I was a regular in San Jose, Costa Rica. I still go there for dental work. Does anyone have recommendations for good dental clinics in MDE that does general dentistry and cosmetic dentistry such as implants, crowns, etc? Would prefer to do in MDE and SJO has long passed its prime in our activities of choice.
Thanks and happy hunting.
Snook.Consider going to Bogotį-- This guy is a Proffessor of implantology and has a clinic -- I had a few implants and a root canal-- All Good.
https://www.nexdu.com/co/bogota-dc-dc/empresa/dr-camilo-novoa-bolivar-coe-483260#telefonos-why-direccion.
Also Plenty of hot girls here.
Do they charge anything for your guest chicas? What's the process there? I stayed at plaza poblado and I had to pay with a card to let my chica come up with me, I think it was 150,000 COP each time. AndI had to wait and sign the receipt. No billing to the room. You have to settle up then and there.
Really annoying and can kind of be awkward because you're not meeting the chica yet, you're playing cashier while she waits on you to finish.No they don't charge anything, as long as you don't exceed the room capacity at any given moment. Which makes sense, as one can't be expected to rent one room and invite four people at the same time.
YounGun3393
08-07-24, 08:29
Hey based on some YouTube videos I saw is Glow and Black Diamond (bottom floor) closed?
Thought it was called Sky park 40 recently on the bottom floor and Glow adjacent.
So what? There is no risk free mongering. It is all about lowering your risk not eliminating it. Checking IDs significantly lowers your risk even if fake IDs are a possibility.Given that an 'underrage' girl will have a fake / false ID, how does checking her ID significantly reduce any risk? The ID will state he / she / they are of legal age. I just think it is worthless advice since the police don't care if you checked the ID either.
Facial beautiy is arguementative for sure but not so much body type. 1-10 rating for body type is not BS.
There is a body type most men (and women) prefer. Thinner hour glass body with big boobs. That should generally be used as the basis of most 1 to 10 grading systems.
Search the top earning females of OnlyFans. See any itty bitty titties or fat or really skinny?
Search images "trophy wives".
Search images "Miss Universe bikini".
Search images "Maxim magazine covers" or "Playboy magazine covers".
Sorry but I think you are talking for yourself and your 'grouping'. You are referencing media and companies that market and target a particular demographic, they are far from universals. I know plenty of folks that prefer a large arse over big boobs, and plenty that prefer chunkier ladies than thinner ones.
Need more info on your sexcation agency. Colombia is in my list.
I run a sexcation agency, which includes Medellin.
I've noticed for the past year, more and more "girl-friendly" hotels are charging to bring in girls. And those that were charging before have doubled their prices. Now my GF hotels list is crap!
Hampton is now charging 150 k.
A client just told me he was charged 200 k at Art Hotel! (it was one of my top 5 GF hotels).
Seems all hotels in Poblado are charging, and some of my clients don't want to stay in El Centro.
What hotels are still girl-friendly?
Given that an 'underrage' girl will have a fake / false IDThis is just false. Not all underage girls will have fake IDs so yes checking IDs does reduce your risk even if it does not eliminate it.
LoveItHere69
08-07-24, 14:20
Sorry but I think you are talking for yourself and your 'grouping'. You are referencing media and companies that market and target a particular demographic, they are far from universals. I know plenty of folks that prefer a large arse over big boobs, and plenty that prefer chunkier ladies than thinner ones.Yes, the main target market are males. I gave many examples of how thin women with big boobs sell products, and even to girls. Please impress me with some examples of products that target males using fat women, women with small boobs, fat ass women. They do not exist because there are not enough men into those body types that can actually sell merchandise. Please show me a fat ass, small boobs, or simply fat beauty pageant, magazine, etc. Show me an AI model making money. I did. Can you?
Across the street from the Hotel Dorado la 70 es Sonria Dental. I had dental work done there 4 years ago. I had tooth 5 extractions, 5 implants and 4 crowns put it. I paid close to 4 K US dollars. In NYC, I was quoted 22 K. I go for checkups there every six months. No issues.
Obviously there are a lot of guys here that spend a lot of time in MDE, if not live there. I have been going 4-5 times per year for a long weekend for the past 5 or 6 years. Before that I was a regular in San Jose, Costa Rica. I still go there for dental work. Does anyone have recommendations for good dental clinics in MDE that does general dentistry and cosmetic dentistry such as implants, crowns, etc? Would prefer to do in MDE and SJO has long passed its prime in our activities of choice.
Thanks and happy hunting.
Snook.
Manizales911
08-08-24, 01:00
Across the street from the Hotel Dorado la 70 es Sonria Dental. I had dental work done there 4 years ago. I had tooth 5 extractions, 5 implants and 4 crowns put it. I paid close to 4 K US dollars. In NYC, I was quoted 22 K. I go for checkups there every six months. No issues.I just had 5 extractions,6 implants and 13 crowns for $5000. Usd but not in Medellin, in Manizales.
Thanks for the photos. I have only one thing to say to the critics - "Post pics of girls you have banged and then I'll take you seriously". Chances are they are not able to post pics of hotter or even girls of similar hotness.I agree with this statement completely. Also, most sessions happen in rooms with shit lighting and it is hard to judge the looks in these armature photos.
Obviously there are a lot of guys here that spend a lot of time in MDE, if not live there. I have been going 4-5 times per year for a long weekend for the past 5 or 6 years. Before that I was a regular in San Jose, Costa Rica. I still go there for dental work. Does anyone have recommendations for good dental clinics in MDE that does general dentistry and cosmetic dentistry such as implants, crowns, etc? Would prefer to do in MDE and SJO has long passed its prime in our activities of choice.
Thanks and happy hunting.
Snook.I appreciate all of the input.
Snook.
I went to Zandaly late last week to spend a bit of time with a favorite friend. She was returning from an "All Hands" meeting of the workers. Seems that the clients are getting pretty rough with the girls recently, and this is going to come to a halt. First, try to rough up a lady, you will get yourself thrown out. Second you will be banned in all the major venues. Finally, if you are really out of order, you might get to spend a night as a guest of the Alcalde of Medellin.
Just a word, I am sure that none of us are like this..What does "rough" mean in this case?
It can be very different depending who you ask so it would be useful to know any example.
Some girls seems to believe that doggy style is to rough for them so it is not difficult to become the bad guy in that scenario.
Mr Enternational
08-08-24, 19:41
What does "rough" mean in this case?
It can be very different depending who you ask so it would be useful to know any example.True. Because in Colombia they always say I close the car doors roughly. I just close them the same way I have always closed any other car doors around the world. But apparently to them I am doing something wrong.
To be completely fair, the regionally produced cars here (mostly from Brazil and Mexico and soon right here in Colombia) aren't street legal in Europe and North America because the doors don't have side impact protection. This is why the same effort you use to close a car door other places is too much here. It also makes the cars cheaper to manufacture and buy and it makes them more fuel efficient, but of course it also makes it a lot scarier if you get T-boned.
True. Because in Colombia they always say I close the car doors roughly. I just close them the same way I have always closed any other car doors around the world. But apparently to them I am doing something wrong.
Zandaly has some of the better service of any of the casas I've been to and I like it because they have thinner girls generally. I don't think I've ever had an out and out bad experience there. But there is a dark side that helps explain why. I've talked a bunch with a few of the girls and it's always been policy that they are fined if they refuse a client. I had one girl show me bruises on her arm from a previous guy that she just said she sucked up and put up with. Another girl told me about a guy who would fuck her for an hour straight in missionary but with her legs up around her ankles. Point is they were encouraged to put up with most things by the casa. I've had some great experiences at Zandaly by treating the girls I am with with consideration and respect. I know I've made a couple cum. There are some girls there with great skills. One of my favorites there has been doing her kegels and really knows how to milk and squeeze you with her pussy in vaginal. It feels like she's trying yo suck you back in every out stroke. It's talked about less but pampoir (I. E. Vaginal massage) is a top tier learned sex skill for me up there with anal and deepthroat.
I went to Zandaly late last week to spend a bit of time with a favorite friend. She was returning from an "All Hands" meeting of the workers. Seems that the clients are getting pretty rough with the girls recently, and this is going to come to a halt. First, try to rough up a lady, you will get yourself thrown out. Second you will be banned in all the major venues. Finally, if you are really out of order, you might get to spend a night as a guest of the Alcalde of Medellin.
Just a word, I am sure that none of us are like this.
Sandy.
LoveItHere69
08-09-24, 09:43
"Post pics of girls you have banged and then I'll take you seriously". Chances are they are not able to post pics of hotter or even girls of similar hotness.I agree. I would happily show any pictures off my phone in real. But.
1. I do not want to post pictures of her because I know I do not want my picture posted anywhere. Fair is fair.
2. I know there are many girls with Sponsors. If I post her picture someone might recognize her, tell his buddy, and she loses a sucker. I feel sorry for the girl and not the sucker Sponsor who has been warned endless times. We have all tried to save a buddy and he hated us for it and still F-ed up, so Hoes before Bros for me.
3. I have seen Facebook accounts of many girls from years past that appear as if they are doing very well and in serious relationships and would hate to be the one that F-ed that up for her. There was a girl I had several times on my first trip 7 years ago. I saw her walking Botero and another time walking Laureles on a double date with who was her older serious BF or possible husband. We both saw each other and quickly looked away.
4. Many guys can not post pix because they then learn that the teacher, lawyer, doctor they have been seeing is actually a Ho. Mr. E learned that last year when other guys posted they had been with the same woman.
I gave many examples of how thin women with big boobs sell products, and even to girls. Please impress me with some examples of products that target males using fat women, women with small boobs, fat ass women. Can you?You gave several examples, but all from the same demographic, which supports my point. Countries in which men prefer larger women. Many sub-Saharan countries, many Muslim countries, Pacific nations, some Caribbean countries. Some countries prefer pale women. Lots of Asian countries, many prefer tanned (Europe), many Asian countries prefer child-like appearance, many countries prefer skinny girls to curvy girls, including those in your own fashion industry.
I suggest you Google "beauty standards across the globe" - you will find countless articles on how preceptions of beauty vary across different cultures.
LoveItHere69
08-09-24, 20:54
You gave several examples, but all from the same demographic, which supports my point. Countries in which men prefer larger women. Many sub-Saharan countries, many Muslim countries, Pacific nations, some Caribbean countries. Some countries prefer pale women. Lots of Asian countries, many prefer tanned (Europe), many Asian countries prefer child-like appearance, many countries prefer skinny girls to curvy girls, including those in your own fashion industry.
I suggest you Google "beauty standards across the globe" - you will find countless articles on how preceptions of beauty vary across different cultures.The point is the majority of men worldwide prefer thin Coke bottle shape with big boobs. The proof is money because that body type sells all kinds of stuff. Yes, guys like other types but they are the minority. Many guys in those countries of skinny or fat women do not have any choice and thus it appears that is what they prefer.
I was talking about body types and you try switching to skin color. Most men worldwide prefer a younger face to an older face looking woman. I am currently in Indonesia. The largest Muslim populated country in the world. All the brothels and spas are mostly full of the body type I am speaking of. Why do you think that is?
The USA fashion industry magazines and channels are geared towards women. Not men. Men do not go out and buy Cosmo, Elle, or Vogue. Go look at a man's magazine and those super thin flat chested women are not there.
Beauty standard articles are stupid. They are done by scientists and poll takers. But what their articles say magically does not show up in most product advertising because it does not sell which means it is a lie.
Please practice what you preach and go create a flat chested Barbie or a fat Barbie doll and make yourself millions because you are so right and currently you have no competition that I have seen at the stores.
ElSexoChino7
08-09-24, 21:02
What's up Medellin vets, anybody knows any spots for this? I know some hotels has rooftop pools, but most of them are only for guest staying in the hotel.
What's up Medellin vets, anybody knows any spots for this? I know some hotels has rooftop pools, but most of them are only for guest staying in the hotel.The only Hotel I know of with a pool where you can purchase a day pass for is at the Intercontinental Hotel on Las Palmas Avenue on the way to the tunnel. However it's not a rooftop pool but a very large outdoor Olympic Pool and you can pay for the day which includes the workout room, the saunas both wet and dry, and the Jacuzzi.
There are other options for swimming pools in Medellin thru the City Recreation Department with various locations around town as well, along with a few waterparks in town.
Additionally, outside of Medellin in San Geronimo just over an hour away you can purchase a day pass at various Hotels and use their pools as well.
I just had 5 extractions,6 implants and 13 crowns for $5000. Usd but not in Medellin, in Manizales.I sugest you check prices in Tijuana Mexico, it's also a monger destination and dental is very cheap compared to the US. Depending of what part of the US you are located in it may also be a shorter flight.
TheDerilious
08-13-24, 03:56
Alright, I just got back from Medellin and I wanted to give my thoughts and some advice for would-be travelers. This is going to be a long one, but I'm putting as much information as I can remember here. I was originally intending for my trip to be more focused on sampling various mongering options (facebook, centro, Lleras, etc.) but I found that it doesn't really make much sense. Most people have their preferred way of mongering and certain options are not feasible for shorter-term travelers. I don't like the online offering space in Medellin very much so I didn't use it this trip. There are highly reviewed escorts at good prices available but I prefer outcalls when traveling since I like longer date-like experiences so that leaves me with the facebook route which I didn't want to waste time with. Centro-diving is not feasible for a short-term traveler. Therefore, I decided to focus on Lleras and how to help mongers navigate that space, and hopefully, improve their experience. My last visit was in 2022 so I also wanted to see if things changed. Disclaimer, my sample size is only 10 women and maybe another 15 women I spoke to for a period of time but didn't pull the trigger on. So take all of my advice with a healthy dose of YMMV. Second disclaimer, I can understand Spanish fluently and speak at an intermediate level. This can totally change your experience, as I'll get into later.
Location
I was staying in Energy Living because I like the hotel (even if it is a bit overpriced), some of the AirBnbs are fantastic, it's quiet-ish at night, it's girl-friendly, and it's still within walking distance of places like Poblado and Provenza so you can easily get to Lleras or the normie Colombian bars. I could go out to new places for a cheaper price, but I feel comfortable in this place so I find myself returning constantly. For those that haven't taken the plunge on this sort of trip, here is a bit of advice. Don't be embarrassed about bringing a working girl home. The guards and the receptionists aren't going to laugh. You'll see how normal the exchanges are with everyone and there is no need to try and slink around. Just walk up to the front desk, get your girl registered and enjoy the night. I always walk the ladies out at the end of the night to show the guards I'm okay but I think they may also call you before letting her leave (another plus). The walk to Lleras is super easy since it's about fifteen minutes downhill, while following Calle 10 so you don't have to make many turns. I did that every night I went down there. But on the way back, order an Uber because it's a major hike and your girl isn't going to want to do that.
Solo Traveling
I don't have a friend group that partakes in this hobby so I do this stuff on my own. That means that I'm not going to waste much time shooting the shit when out and about. If I go to Lleras, Gusto, or even Centro, I don't really want to mill about doing nothing so I don't spend more than an hour before pulling the trigger. That can change your experience because if you have a group, you can just hit a bar or an outdoor sitting venue and relax for hours having fun, soaking in the environment and seeing the girls who are available, before making a choice. But honestly, you shouldn't need more than 10 minutes to make a choice if you're with friends or not. Scope out a girl you like, exchange pleasantries, tell her what you like, negotiate prices, and get home. It can be difficult to talk to one girl who is in a pack since you are just one guy, but you'll see that all of her friends will usually move aside and give you peace to close the deal with your chosen girl. If you're hitting on a pack of girls with your bros, the girls will generally stay since they are all trying to get a piece.
Gringos
Sorry to say my American brothers, but as a group, we have a bit of a bad reputation. A lot of this comes from the fact that the party bros have really made us look bad. Finally living up the dream of MLK Jr, Black and white Americans have come together in the land of Eternal spring to be shitty patrons and loudmouth buffoons. We don't speak a lick of Spanish, we walk around paying in US dollars, and are over-drinking like local roughneck Colombians. Talking with the ladies, most of them first quoted me in dollars because most of the foreign guys they meet don't carry pesos and can't negotiate in Spanish. It's much easier for the girls to memorize "100 hundred" since it's easier for the guys to follow. So to my fellow mongers who were complaining about the girls being sharks for quoting in dollars, this may have been a problem of our own making. Honorable mention to Russians and Israelis who are also heavily disliked. Russians for over-drinking / violence and Israelis because of a supposed apartment complex in Centro that I won't go into because I couldn't verify it (but three separate girls on three separate nights told me about it so that was surprising). The advice I would give to my fellow Americans is to adopt a more tranquilo attitude; be a bit more calm and less aggressively forward. It seems that the girls like that a bit more when it comes to that initial meeting. And don't worry, Latinas will always get more sensual and close as things heat up later.
Lleras Girls
I've already written this in a previous post, but most of the girls you see milling about in Lleras are working. It's generally pretty easy to spot the non-working girls because they are there with their boyfriends or they are dressed a bit more conservatively and they are usually walking around as if they are sight-seeing as opposed to just standing. If you see a girl or a group of girls scantily dressed and standing around the park, they are definitely working. If you need even more information; Parque Lleras is a square and most of the working girls congregate in the park or the sidewalks around it. On the outside of the square are the bars and I found that less working girls were on those sidewalks. The vast majority of the girls are congregating on the sidewalk and some overhang things between Gusto and a bar called Glow (if you look at a map, it's Calle 9 a side).
I never had more than a ten minute conversation with a girl before I pulled the trigger. I mean, there is just not much to say. How are you? What's your name? How old are you? You look beautiful. I like x, why, z, can you do that? How much for a date? I think you can try to butter them up more but I'm not sure it really matters when you're picking up girls in the square because they generally aren't going to go hang out for a drink or anything. Others can correct me if I'm wrong because I've never tried that before. I find that buttering them up afterward is a much more promising strategy. Most every girl quoted me 100 USD for an hour and 200 USD por la noche. I say, "Pero, solamente tengo pesos" (But, I only have pesos) and they would switch to either 300 k or 400 k. I always do por la noche and I never paid more than 500-600 k after negotiating for a few minutes. If a girl gave me a straight offer of 600 k I never tried to push for more because I really don't care to haggle over 25 dollars especially because I would revalidate the services I wanted in exchange for letting go of the negotiation. If she pushed for 800 k, I would try to get her down to 600 k. Of course, there were usually some added costs like an Uber home, Rappi for some food if they wanted it, and another Uber home for the girl after finishing the deal. Some of those are optional, of course, but if you are a decent negotiator, you can generally budget for about 750 k for all costs. In return, this would get me 4-5 hours with the girl, 2-3 polvos (depending on my mood), and a really nice night with a fun new connection.
My favorite of the trip was a girl called Michelle. To me, she was a legit 9/10. Born in Venezuela but had lived in Bucaramanga, Colombia her whole life. 23 years old with porcelain white skin and no kids, deep brown eyes, dark black hair, and long eyelashes. Flaca frame but some nice curves. She was in her last year of university studying computer science (she was not faking as we had some deeper conversation around topics in that area) and was working to pay off her expenses. She was looking to get out of Colombia long-term to find a job since computer jobs are not super plentiful there and she felt that Colombia was not the right place to start a family. We had a great connection and I will say, my friends, I was getting that feeling of "saving" her which is always a good sign for me of a real connection. We had some great conversation and she was no slouch in bed with a lot of passion. She wasn't super experienced but she put in the work haha. But yeah, if you catch her in Lleras, treat that girl right. That girl really does deserve to get that happy ending LOL.
Gusto
This place gets a bad rap from certain people on this forum, but I will just say this, even the touts who are pushing other bars will tell you that this place is the "premier" spot. In my view, it's worth an experience and I do think the quality of girls is pretty good. In my experience, most every girl was looking to get 300 USD from the outset. I was generally able to negotiate girls to about 800-900 k por la noche though some were firm at 1-1. 2 million. I didn't feel that less than 700 k would be on the table since it seemed the girls were marketing themselves a bit higher than the Lleras girls. I do feel that the quality of the girls was pretty high in terms of looks and there were always at least 3-4 girls that I would consider "instantly doable".
The big negative of the joint for me is that the place doesn't really get popping until 11 pm. I started by going out at 9 pm and there were a decent number of Lleras chicks but no girls at Gusto. By 10 ish, the doorman usually would tell me there were only a few and to come back in half an hour. By 11 pm, it seemed that enough girls were there. I am well aware of Latino party hours but during this trip, I had some morning plans and I didn't want to spend every night staying up until midnight or 1 am just to get a girl back to my place so it put a damper on how much I would use the place. Also, the few times I went early and waited for Gusto to get full, I would usually find a girl in Lleras that I would consider 8/10+ and would pull the trigger.
Service
This is hotly contested so I will give you guys my criteria. I generally look for GFE-like experiences. This means that I like to take the girl home, pop open some jugo / vino / water and talk for a while to get to know her. I love learning something new or absorbing a different life experience and forming some minor connections because I believe it leads to some better sex and a more fulfilling night. I look for more passion in my sex and a general enjoyment from the lady. THIS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE and I won't insult those who look for a different experience. I prefer to have that experience with all of my sexual exploits, girlfriend or paid and it's the only way I prefer to roll. Saying all of this, I sampled 10 women from Lleras / Gusto and I didn't have a bad experience. Every night, I was able to find (what I believe to be) a 8/10 or higher girl that would provide passable GFE experiences. I would say that 7/10 provided above average GFE and 4-5 were mindblowing GFE. The ladies were active in pushing for more during the sexual encounters and didn't shy away from changing positions, kissing, etc. Only 3 girls requested condoms for BJs (I don't do bareback for sex) and I always got at least 2 good shots. The average night usually went; come home and talk / drink for an hour, sex, rest for 30-60 and talk / eat, sex, let her go home. I understand that everything is YMMV and I do have four distinct advantages in that I'm passably fluent in Spanish, not a drunkard, am a good listener, and I'm young. Note that 3/4 "advantages" are things anyone can do.
I don't feel that the service level for the Gusto's girls was any higher than the Lleras girls, but I guess I would say that the median Gusto girl was more attractive. I felt that some of the really attractive Lleras girls got annoyingly swiped up fast. I would stupidly want to make a final lap before picking a girl and she would literally be walking away with a dude in the few minutes it took me to get around. But it all works out in the end because new girls always show up (That girl Michelle showed up two minutes after I missed out on hottie because I decided to take the long way around the park rather than go through it to talk to her). Don't get too bent out of shape about missing out.
Final Thoughts
I had a really great trip while solely focused on Lleras and Gusto hunting. I didn't even end up trying the other bars because a few laps (maybe 20-30 minutes at most) around the park usually got me what I wanted. I totally understand that other options can lead to great returns as well but I am simply stating my experience. I wanted to see if it could provide consistent results and to give you guys some better info on what can happen. Hopefully it helps. Here are some other random thoughts without much explanation.
I understand that my price tolerance might be higher than some here, but I felt that nothing was overly expensive. Most girls were quickly able to be negotiated down and very few held firm on high quotes, but this might be YMMV. They seemed to value the tranquilo vibe, from what I heard.
Safety is really high on the list for the girls. Drunk shitheads are a dangerous unknown. If you come off as a safe guy, they are willing to negotiate to close the deal.
I never paid until the end and no girl requested it of me. I usually paid them after they showered before leaving before they asked.
Rappi is great. It gives you major access to whatever food you want and the delivery fees / tips are like 1 USD.
Many of the girls didn't want to work in Centro because of the perceived danger, drug-addled neighbors, and trashiness, though I'm not sure if that was from experience or just what they heard.
Many of the Lleras street girls didn't like working at the bars because they had to spend tons of hours hawking drinks on guys which was tiring. I didn't get a lot of clarity if they specifically meant the "employed" girls with the uniforms or the actual prostitutes that frequent the bars. Either way, constant hangovers, groping dudes, and the bars taking major cuts from their wallets doesn't sound great.
If I ever come with some friends or anyone here takes me up on meeting in Medellin, I am happy to try some other bars in Lleras. My next personal trip will probably focus more on upscale incall brothel places and some online facebook / escorts at night to try a change of pace.
I would stupidly want to make a final lap before picking a girl and she would literally be walking away with a dude in the few minutes it took me to get around.You won't lost them if you just get the number of anyone you may like. You will also end up with a larger pool of girls.
Chupacabra
08-13-24, 09:04
Alright, I just got back from Medellin and I wanted to give my thoughts and some advice for would-be travelers. I'm thinking of taking a first-time trip to Medellin solo, and this was very helpful for me, thanks for taking the time. It sounds like I can just stay near Lleras the whole trip and have fun. But my spanish sucks. I'm semi-passable in Tijuana after a few drinks with bartenders and cabbies who play along, but otherwise I'm stuck with google translate. Do any girls speak English or no?
I've never paid more that 300 mil for a girl and I usually pay 300 only when she's a stunner. The average is 200-250. Then again I speak Spanish and pick up girls in normal places. It's embarrassing how these prices keep skyrocketing. The prices will keep doubling because of the idiotic "don't blame a man for how he spends his money" mentality. The only way to keep prices low is to always negotiate and not capitulate to crazy prices. Also, for the fools that post things on how to evade cops. Guess what they read this forum and they are looking for more ways to prosecute gringos.
Last trip I had the frustrating experience of being cock blocked by the receptionist of my hotel while I was about to have a threesome with 2 stunning Latina girls met at Lleras park. So I am looking for an Airbnb this time, with a private entrance preferably to avoid the walk of shame in a lobby or a common elevator. My budget is also lower so something not to expensive. It can be elsewhere too, I like near Lleras because walking around when I am walking back to my room is a good way to find some gem.
If there is other relatively safe place like Lleras park with a lots of girls ready to suck and fuck for money I would give a try in a different area but I think Lleras park is probably the best place for it.
Service
This is hotly contested so I will give you guys my criteria. I generally look for GFE-like experiences. This means that I like to take the girl home, pop open some jugo / vino / water and talk for a while to get to know her. I love learning something new or absorbing a different life experience and forming some minor connections because I believe it leads to some better sex and a more fulfilling night. I look for more passion in my sex and a general enjoyment from the lady. THIS IS NOT FOR EVERYONE and I won't insult those who look for a different experience. I prefer to have that experience with all of my sexual exploits, girlfriend or paid and it's the only way I prefer to roll. Saying all of this, I sampled 10 women from Lleras / Gusto and I didn't have a bad experience. Every night, I was able to find (what I believe to be) a 8/10 or higher girl that would provide passable GFE experiences. I would say that 7/10 provided above average GFE and 4-5 were mindblowing GFE. The ladies were active in pushing for more during the sexual encounters and didn't shy away from changing positions, kissing, etc. Only 3 girls requested condoms for BJs (I don't do bareback for sex) and I always got at least 2 good shots. The average night usually went; come home and talk / drink for an hour, sex, rest for 30-60 and talk / eat, sex, let her go home. I understand that everything is YMMV and I do have four distinct advantages in that I'm passably fluent in Spanish, not a drunkard, am a good listener, and I'm young. Note that 3/4 "advantages" are things anyone can do.Thank you for this detailed report. This is exactly how I roll. I took 9 friends to Medellin in Feb and we had a blast. 6 or 7 of them valued qty over quality and just banged away, and I have no issues at all with that approach. But two of us liked the GFE-ish type evenings. I never paid more than 250 k from Lear's unless I added a tip or food / uber and usually got more than an hour. I like to give massages so by the time I'the give her one, she'd usually slip into completely untrusted mode. I like to establish some kind of connection. Yes I know she's working. But like one of my buddies says, I like the lie that it's "tru luv" for the hour or two lmao. I found this amazing 19 yo who ended up coming over almost every day and when I left for Aruba at the end of the week, she wanted to go. I said how much, she said I don't care. So got her a plane tkt on wingo $200. I already had an Airbnb. She flew there and hung out for 4 nights, tore my ass up every night and in fact got pissed at me that she felt she was initiating the sex more than I was. LOL. We were both flying out the same day, her to Mde and me north. I handed her $600 for the 5 days /4 nights at the terminal and she started crying. Still trade how are yas maybe every other month and I'll be back in Mde in 2 weeks and def plan to hang out. I like to establish a few "keepers" different places I go. I'm not super fluent speaking Spanish but I understand it pretty well and they seem to really appreciate my fucked up Spanish and it seems to go a long way.
I do want to check out a casa or something like that so if anyone will be in Mde 8/30 to 9/4 and interested in a wingman, or if you have any info on places to check out, please pm. The driver that took me to / from the airport told me about places near Botero?
Nil Admirari
08-13-24, 15:31
.... Scope out a girl you like, exchange pleasantries, tell her what you like, negotiate prices, and get home. It can be difficult to talk to one girl who is in a pack since you are just one guy, but you'll see that all of her friends will usually move aside and give you peace to close the deal with your chosen girl. .............I never had more than a ten minute conversation with a girl before I pulled the trigger. I mean, there is just not much to say. How are you? What's your name? How old are you? You look beautiful. I like x, why, z, can you do that? How much for a date? I think you can try to butter them up more but I'm not sure it really matters when you're picking up girls in the square because they generally aren't going to go hang out for a drink or anything.
TheDelirous, thanks for the detailed, informative report on your mongering ventures around the Parque Lleras happy hunting ground.
Let me add a personal addendum to your experience (quoted above) in chatting / picking up chicas where they congregate around the Parque (mostly on / near the corner of the park between clubs Gustos and Glow). When I approach a chica (whether she's alone or in a group), I ask her to come sit down with me inside the park for a brief, private conversation--just long enough for me to get a feel for her personality (vivaciousness, overt sensuality, flirtatiousness are all good signs that she'll provide GFE treatment). (5 minutes or so; 10 at most). They rarely refuse, and, if they do, it's usually a bad sign--though if super hot I may still collect her WhatsApp.
I stay in Laureles when I'm in Medellin and prefer to see chicas for just an hour or two in the early evening (as opposed to Todo la Noche). Given my location and these preferences, I'll visit Lleras at the busiest times (after 10:00 PM Thursday to Saturday nights) to scout for new talent, but only to have interviews and collect What's App numbers. I'll then wait for another day to negotiate pricing and services by text message. Since I'm not trying to pry them away from Parque Llleras to Laureles at prime late night hours, they will often accept a more modest offer of 200 or 250 thousand plus the promise of a generous tip for good GFE (DFK and BBBJ). Not cheap by El Centro street or casa prices but still a good discount relative to the rates that you were quoting. Of course, some will counter with a higher price and, if she's superduper hot and has my hormones fully engaged, we'll negotiate and may end up compromising in the 300 to 400 range.
TheDerilious
08-13-24, 16:42
You won't lost them if you just get the number of anyone you may like. You will also end up with a larger pool of girls.Yeah, you're right, and it's an ongoing improvement with me that this hobby has really helped with. I first had to get used to cold opening with people, and then I had to practice getting used to saying no and moving on. I've been getting better about just walking up to a girl with the express choice of getting a phone number and moving on but it still doesn't come naturally to me.
Do any girls speak English or no?In my 5 or so trips to Medellin in the past few years, I have not met any girls that spoke good English. Some girls can generally understand certain things and most will have a collection of memorized phrases like "cum in my pussy". I personally, have not met any working girls that would be considered conversational in English, even at an elementary level. I have seen some online escorts that advertise speaking english but I haven't sampled any of them. Most girls tell me that they just do google translate tag with non-Spanish speakers. Not speaking Spanish is not a major blocker to a good time as long as you are kind and give off a safe vibe, but it does make a good connection harder. So don't let it stop you, but maybe temper your expectations and work to try and improve your spanish on your side.
TheDerilious
08-13-24, 16:46
I stay in Laureles when I'm in Medellin and prefer to see chicas for just an hour or two in the early evening (as opposed to Todo la Noche). Given my location and these preferences, I'll visit Lleras at the busiest times (after 10:00 PM Thursday to Saturday nights) to scout for new talent, but only to have interviews and collect What's App numbers. I'll then wait for another day to negotiate pricing and services by text message. Since I'm not trying to pry them away from Parque Llleras to Laureles at prime late night hours, they will often accept a more modest offer of 200 or 250 thousand plus the promise of a generous tip for good GFE (DFK and BBBJ). Not cheap by El Centro street or casa prices but still a good discount relative to the rates that you were quoting. Of course, some will counter with a higher price and, if she's superduper hot and has my hormones fully engaged, we'll negotiate and may end up compromising in the 300 to 400 range.Yes, you are completely right. I didn't have a lot of free time during to the day and definitely took the less efficient path of sourcing new girls each night so that led to higher prices. Part of it was to experiment a bit and some of it was for my own personal growth, but I do agree that collecting numbers and negotiating the next day can be better. I didn't do any repeats either, even though I kind of wanted to which can also have some cheaper prices. Thanks for adding this.
Would someone please tell me how to find girls on facebook? I've gone back many pages and can't find much. Also, I will be in Poblado on Thursday for at least a week if anyone wants to meet for a beer.
Mr Enternational
08-13-24, 21:17
In my 5 or so trips to Medellin in the past few years, I have not met any girls that spoke good English. Some girls can generally understand certain things and most will have a collection of memorized phrases like "cum in my pussy". I personally, have not met any working girls that would be considered conversational in English, even at an elementary level. In the past 20 years I have dated over 100 women in Colombia who were not hookers. As far as I can remember only 1 of them spoke English. But for good measure let's say 3 did. If you are going to Colombia expecting to meet chicks that speak English then you will 99% be disappointed.
SoloTraveler10
08-14-24, 06:52
Is Medellin still anti tourist for sex work? I recall months ago that the main park was closed and no women allowed to stand around and possible other restrictions.
How is the market for girls as of now or is there a day when that sex tourism ban will be lifted?
BlueAngels18
08-14-24, 14:43
Would someone please tell me how to find girls on facebook? I've gone back many pages and can't find much. Also, I will be in Poblado on Thursday for at least a week if anyone wants to meet for a beer.DM me, I am in Poblado until next week.
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JohnnieCash
08-14-24, 15:58
...Israelis because of a supposed apartment complex in Centro...Can you elaborate?
Would someone please tell me how to find girls on facebook? I've gone back many pages and can't find much. Also, I will be in Poblado on Thursday for at least a week if anyone wants to meet for a beer.Look at post # 210 in "Links to Reports of Distinction", but I don't think you have time before you are there. Here's a link: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction/page2.
TheDerilious
08-14-24, 17:12
In the past 20 years I have dated over 100 women in Colombia who were not hookers. As far as I can remember only 1 of them spoke English. But for good measure let's say 3 did. If you are going to Colombia expecting to meet chicks that speak English then you will 99% be disappointed.I will partially disagree with this statement. I have family living in Medellin as digital nomads and they have integrated into the normie culture of Colombia so I have met a good deal of college educated girls that speak decent English. These girls are not prostitutes in the slightest, nor are they looking for sugar daddies. They are the same as any working professional woman or college girl in your country of origin. They are generally looking to date hot, fit guys around their age, or at least not what they would consider "old". Some do like foreigner guys but you need to speak Spanish. Many are from the middle / upper class, which means you are going to have to pay more to date and you need to be someone to potentially introduce to the family (so many of our black and darker brothers may be in for a hard time).
But the crux of your statement is true. If you go out to Colombia to meet these women, you will 99% be disappointed. You need to be a permanent-ish resident (I. E. Not living here for fun), you need to know the right people to get introductions, you need to prove you're not a foreigner just trying to get pussy, and you need to know Spanish at an intermediate level. I have hooked up with a few of these girls over my time in the area, but I argue that the juice was not worth the squeeze and there were very clear signs very early in the relationship that they are looking for something serious at the end. Latinas, especially in this class (all over South America), have a very different expectation of dating than you might see in the lower class.
TheDerilious
08-14-24, 17:32
Is Medellin still anti tourist for sex work? I recall months ago that the main park was closed and no women allowed to stand around and possible other restrictions.
How is the market for girls as of now or is there a day when that sex tourism ban will be lifted?No restrictions in Parque Lleras as far as I could tell. It was a political stunt as everyone should have known.
100%. I've met a couple who speak good english through both pros and dating over the last 4 years. One is a fairly well known prepago who is past her prime at this point and branching out into tours due to her skills. I went on a date with another girl who spoke pretty fluently and now has a US visa. Now I know a couple more (both pro and nonpro) actively taking classes and trying to learn or know a little english thanks to an foriegn ex. Is that the norm? Far from it. It doesn't bother me at all since I speak Spanish and I've done absolutely nothing to seek out English speaking girls. If you want to get more out of pros, learn Spanish. If you want to date you need to learn Spanish and also come off as serious / and not a low life.
If somebody is looking to date an english speaker or learner, then I'd start attending the language exchanges, which are mostly in Poblado though I think there is one in Laureles too. I've consistently told my amigas learning english that they should attend the exchanges as well.
In the past 20 years I have dated over 100 women in Colombia who were not hookers. As far as I can remember only 1 of them spoke English. But for good measure let's say 3 did. If you are going to Colombia expecting to meet chicks that speak English then you will 99% be disappointed.
Exoticspirit
08-14-24, 20:48
I'll be returning to Medellin in October for my second time and despite all the talk about how run down and overpriced the Hotel M (mansion) is, it's security and convenience was so good last time that I've booked them again. This time I'll do a day trip to Guatape since I didn't have enough time last trip. It looks fairly easy enough to get to via bus and back plus I'm assuming that Guatape is too small and touristy to have any mongering action (please correct me if I'm wrong) so I'll opt not to stay overnight there. I've already done Parque Arvi as well as Comuna 13 so I guess there's nothing else that interesting from a tourist point of view left in Medellin during the daytime hours except the odd casa visit for us mongers.
Great stay at the Nutibara Hotel, thanks to all who recommended it. Got the top floor units with the patio and it was great. Awesome view, decently nice room, renovated bathroom, comfortable bed / mattress. All in all, great stay, especially for the location, close to all the action!
First up, Rosa - 19 years old. Super cute, braces of course, big titties a tiny bit chunky. First session, good, condom only, ok oral, ok sex, but at the end, she wanted doggy and I asked if we could do with no condom, as it feels better. She said yes and off went the condom. Beautiful deep penetration in doggy, nice finish on her back. Great time.
Went with her again the next day and was 100% bareback, finish on body, excellent session. Wednesday one more time, but this time with her friend Salome, all covered that session, probably because she didn't want her friend to know she'd been riding me raw. Also a great session, I was worn out by mid-week.
2 other centro girls: Cristina. A paleta vendor, totally unexpected. I 100% did not even think about fucking her, but she was cute and we had a beer together, and I gave her a 5 k note for paletas that she gave out to some kids who were passing by. For some reason she gave me some flirty conversation, I asked her jokingly if she wanted to go to the room and get down and she says, Oh yeah! So off we went to the Nutibara, got her checked in, she showered, and we had an awesome session. She has a kid and has lost something like 50 lbs over the last 6 months or so, which was not expected. Lots of loose skin, but she's cute and was just having so much fun that it was one of the better sessions I've had. In particular she wanted me to lightly choke and slap her, no idea why, but she REALLy enjoyed that. Then we moved to doggy and she wanted me to hold her wrists while I pounded from behind. That was fantastic. Finished that way, a tiny load as I'd already given my first load to Rosa earlier in the afternoon. But satisfaction all around, and an overall 8/10 session just for enthusiasm. She only wanted $100 k for the 2 hours, but I gave her an extra 100 k and she went off floating on air, so cute!
The other centro girl was a very dark negra, Paola, down from Botero, near to all the cantinas, but a bit further down the street. She saw me walk by when I was making rounds in the morning on Wednesday, waved me over when she saw me walk by the second time around 1 PM. We went upstairs, nice clean short time hotel, and had a nice condom session. I told her I would be more enthusiastic, and she finishes my sentence, ". Sin condon!" I'm like, Yep. She says Ok, but you have to pay me more. Sure thing. Upped my offer from 40 k to 80 k and she was all over it. Ripped off the condom, she mounts up cowgirl and we have a good 10 minute ride. Very nice. Busted on her stomach, she showers, I clean up and off we go out separate ways.
Took 2 days off to hang out with my gringo friend's wife, drinking, chatting, etc. No action, which is cool, I wouldn't do that to my friend. Well, maybe. But not this time! .
Finally, not Centro, but Lleras on my last night in town and my last one for the week was Fabiana a true prepago in the old fashioned sense. A student at one of the local universities, periodically runs by Lleras and gets "spending money". She gets all serious and says, "I'm NOT a puta, I just really like sex, and I also need money every now and then. " I'm like, "Whatever baby, let's go!
Took her to Lleras Garden Hostel right on Calle 10, pay for the room, told her up front, no condom, no rush, don't get pushy. She complains a little that it "hurts" her pussy when I'm eating it, which I've never heard before, but ok. Went a little gentler, then had her mount up. Rode me like a champion cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, then finally finished in doggy. I told her, "I'm going to come inside you, and she says, Yes, yes, come inside me baby! I love that shit. Anyway, busted a big load inside her, paid her our agreed upon 150 k, then went back to Lleras Town restaurant to continue my rum and coke session with the super cute waitress there Angie. I challenged her that I would tip her the cost of however many rum & cokes she drank, well, that was crazy because they're 30 k each, I think, and she downed 5 or 6! Damn. She was struggling to keep herself focused on work. Super fun. Anyway, she took care of me my first night with the 2 Andreas and has been more than fun to just chat with, so I gave her 200 k and called it a night.
All in all a great trip, really enjoyed it, especially after my last 2 trips to Cuba which have been, at best, mediocre although still fun. I just really like having modern conveniences, good food, nice drinks, great girls all for more than reasonable cost.
Nomars777 out!
I'll be returning to Medellin in October for my second time and despite all the talk about how run down and overpriced the Hotel M (mansion) is, it's security and convenience was so good last time that I've booked them again. This time I'll do a day trip to Guatape since I didn't have enough time last trip. It looks fairly easy enough to get to via bus and back plus I'm assuming that Guatape is too small and touristy to have any mongering action (please correct me if I'm wrong) so I'll opt not to stay overnight there. I've already done Parque Arvi as well as Comuna 13 so I guess there's nothing else that interesting from a tourist point of view left in Medellin during the daytime hours except the odd casa visit for us mongers.Why don't you find a sexy girl to go with you? Trips like that are not fun alone!
JaySingh1010
08-15-24, 02:10
Hello,
I am going to Medellķand for first time. I called few hotels and they don't allow girls. Is there a nice hotel near parque llearas that allows girls? In Panama, hotels allowed for a $20 fee. Please help.
Exoticspirit
08-15-24, 03:19
Why don't you find a sexy girl to go with you? Trips like that are not fun alone!That certainly is a consideration but it would have to be somebody I really gel well with (or maybe even one of the girls I met last trip). Also she would have to be able to climb up all those 750 or so steps up that big Rock in Guatape.
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DiscoverFL
08-15-24, 13:25
I'll be returning to Medellin in October for my second time and despite all the talk about how run down and overpriced the Hotel M (mansion) is, it's security and convenience was so good last time that I've booked them again. This time I'll do a day trip to Guatape since I didn't have enough time last trip. It looks fairly easy enough to get to via bus and back plus I'm assuming that Guatape is too small and touristy to have any mongering action (please correct me if I'm wrong) so I'll opt not to stay overnight there. I've already done Parque Arvi as well as Comuna 13 so I guess there's nothing else that interesting from a tourist point of view left in Medellin during the daytime hours except the odd casa visit for us mongers.Guatape has some really cool hotels with views, so usually when I go (overnight), I take a girl with me. I usually stay at Hotel LOS Recuerdos where I get the top room overlooking the rock, it's an amazing all glass room (at a reasonable price) with hot tub and everything. Check it out on Booking. They have other pretty awesome rooms. The negative thing about Guatape, is it does close up early. So, you want to go really early to be able to enjoy the town during the day, get dinner, and buy some alcohol to enjoy the evening with your 'girlfriend' in your room.
That certainly is a consideration but it would have to be somebody I really gel well with (or maybe even one of the girls I met last trip). Also she would have to be able to climb up all those 750 or so steps up that big Rock in Guatape.As long as they bring the right shoes most of the girls from Medellin could climb those stairs without breaking a sweat. If the take the metro they likely climb that much pretty well every day. In any case they are a lot more able to do that than 95% of their gringo customers.
As long as they bring the right shoes most of the girls from Medellin could climb those stairs without breaking a sweat. If the take the metro they likely climb that much pretty well every day. In any case they are a lot more able to do that than 95% of their gringo customers.I've been to the top of el peńol twice both times with a different vennie. First time October 2021 and second time in Feb 2023. It's not that hard to make it to the top. Stopping for a water or beer at that little souvenir shop at the 3/4 mark always helps tho LOL.
I will list the following that I have personally stayed at and taken girls to:
1) Hotel Selis. Great hotel, 1 block from the west end of Lleras Park. Be sure to get a room facing the street and not at the back of the hotel, otherwise you'll be hearing club music till 4-5 AM and it'll be a rough time getting to sleep (if that's a goal). Great views from the high floors on the street side. They will charge $100 k COP to take a girl up, approximately $25 USD. The first one for me has always been free. Sometimes they don't charge me either, not sure why, but just take a copy of her ID and send us up. Great guys who work the front desk and the cleaning ladies do a great job and are super nice as well.
2) Hotel Nakua - 1 block from Provenza, up the hill, just off Calle 10 - also great hotel, with great mattresses, nice views, especially from the high floors. Always charge for guests, always take and confirm IDs, always make sure you're safe before letting the girls leave. Front desk guy, I forget his name, is super cool, I've had lots of good conversations with him. Deep voiced security guy is also great.
3) Torre Poblado Apartasuites. Most recent place I stayed. Interestingly, they only charged me for 1 guest of the 3 I took up. She was the second one on the same day, which may be the reason, but honestly I'm not sure, because I took 2 up on Sunday afternoon and they didn't charge me for either one. So YMMV.
4) Hotel Lleras 10 - right on Calle 10,1 block from Lleras park west entrance on Calle 10 - Confirmed in person with the front desk girls that the hotel does not charge for guests, and you can bring as many as you want. The girls at the front desk told me that *every* guest has to have a current passport (foreigners) or Colombian ID for guests. They will take and retain a copy of the ID for all guests, but told me no charge and I can bring as many as I want. I didn't see the rooms, but online says they're basically just OK. If anyone can confirm, that'd be handy info.
5) Lleras Garden Hostel. Nice, small, boutique type hostel / hotel. On busy nights, basically Thurs. Sunday nights, they do rent their rooms short time to punters. You show up with your girl, they take copies of all of them, send you to the room for $40 k, I think, for up to 2 hours. They also rent rooms on a long term basis, and I would stay there. Supposedly there's no cost to have guests when you're a long term hotel guest, but I did not confirm that.
There's also several others in and around Lleras that allow guests. I am not sure why the ones you contacted stated that they don't when even a nearly new "co-working" hotel in Laureles (Factory Lofts) has a guest policy that beyond the first checked guest, you have to pay an additional charge of $100 k COP per guest. And they are FAR from the hot spots for working girls.
In short, every hotel I've stayed in so far has allowed them, either explicitly in their policy, or just take the photocopies of the IDs and charge you a fee when the girls show up, so basically not outright stating that it's allowed, but permitting it nonetheless.
Best of luck and have fun!!
Nomars777.
Hello,
I am going to Medelland for first time. I called few hotels and they don't allow girls. Is there a nice hotel near parque llearas that allows girls? In Panama, hotels allowed for a $20 fee. Please help.
TheDerilious
08-15-24, 16:32
Can you elaborate?I couldn't validate any of this so I have no idea if it's true or not, simply that 2 separate girls mentioned it to me as we talked and one other girl agreed when I explicitly asked her about it. So take this with a grain of salt because I can't find any info and they didn't give me the actual address. I was just surprised that the girls all seemed to know about the place.
Essentially, there is an apartment complex in Centro that the girls claimed is owned by and mostly serves Israelis. They said that a lot of the guys there are known to go after and traffic in minors and really young working girls. Additionally, it seems the punters are forcefully pushing girls they pick up, either in Lleras or Centro, to take hard drugs like heroin and meth. One of the girls was asked by a friend to join a group of girls who were being set up to a group of travelers in that hotel. She was told to say she was 16 (she was 20 at the time) and that a guy got violent with her when she didn't want to shoot up heroin with him. Another girl claimed that apartment also has a connection to some Colombian gangs that operate in the area.
The vagueness surrounding the allegations is concerning but it's hard to discount "firsthand" testimony that is seemingly corroborated by individual girls. It's also hard to say whether it's a systemic thing or just a couple of sick fucks who need to be put down. It would be great to actually get some confirmation from other girls that other mongers can ask, but I just consider it now being a case of individual bad actors. Personally, I'd like to just believe it's all hearsay and fiction because it would really suck if that's the case. But Medellin being the way it is, who knows?
JohnnieCash
08-15-24, 17:37
I couldn't validate any of this so I have no idea if it's true or not, simply that 2 separate girls mentioned it to me as we talked and one other girl agreed when I explicitly asked her about it. So take this with a grain of salt because I can't find any info and they didn't give me the actual address. I was just surprised that the girls all seemed to know about the place.
Essentially, there is an apartment complex in Centro that the girls claimed is owned by and mostly serves Israelis. They said that a lot of the guys there are known to go after and traffic in minors and really young working girls. Additionally, it seems the punters are forcefully pushing girls they pick up, either in Lleras or Centro, to take hard drugs like heroin and meth. One of the girls was asked by a friend to join a group of girls who were being set up to a group of travelers in that hotel. She was told to say she was 16 (she was 20 at the time) and that a guy got violent with her when she didn't want to shoot up heroin with him. Another girl claimed that apartment also has a connection to some Colombian gangs that operate in the area.
The vagueness surrounding the allegations is concerning but it's hard to discount "firsthand" testimony that is seemingly corroborated by individual girls. It's also hard to say whether it's a systemic thing or just a couple of sick fucks who need to be put down. It would be great to actually get some confirmation from other girls that other mongers can ask, but I just consider it now being a case of individual bad actors. Personally, I'd like to just believe it's all hearsay and fiction because it would really suck if that's the case. But Medellin being the way it is, who knows?Damn that's fked up. Thanks for the elaboration. I'm going to ask around when I'm down there.
Israelis historically do have quite a reputation trafficking and pimping young girls, eg Zwi Migdal group operating in 19th century (back then it was poor girls from Europe trafficked to South America).
"Prostitutes who failed to satisfy their clients were beaten, fined, or sent to work in rural houses. Every business transaction was logged. The ruffians held a "meat market" where newly arrived girls were paraded naked in front of traders in places such as Hotel Palestina and Cafe Parisienne. These activities went on undisrupted because government officials, judges, and journalists frequented the brothels. City officials, politicians, and police officers were bribed. The pimps had powerful connections everywhere. The largest brothels in Buenos Aires housed as many as 60 to 80 sex slaves.
The organization lured girls and young women from Europe in several ways. Pindel describes one ruse in which a well-mannered and elegant-looking man would appear in a poor Jewish village in Poland or Russia. He would advertise his search for young women to work in the homes of wealthy Jews in Argentina by posting an advertisement in the local synagogue. Fearful of pogroms and often in desperate economic circumstances, parents would send their daughters away with the man, hoping that this might offer them a fresh start.
Another popular ruse was to find pretty girls and marry them, usually in a quick wedding ceremony known in Yiddish as a "shtille chupah". The girls bade their families farewell and boarded ships to Argentina, believing that they were on their way toward a better future. The rape of the girls and abuse as sex slaves often started on the ship. Some of them were married off to local men so that they could obtain entry visas."
LoveItHere69
08-15-24, 19:40
Essentially, there is an apartment complex in Centro that the girls claimed is owned by and mostly serves Israelis. They said that a lot of the guys there are known to go after and traffic in minors and really young working girls. Additionally, it seems the punters are forcefully pushing girls they pick up, either in Lleras or Centro, to take hard drugs like heroin and meth. One of the girls was asked by a friend to join a group of girls who were being set up to a group of travelers in that hotel. She was told to say she was 16 (she was 20 at the time) and that a guy got violent with her when she didn't want to shoot up heroin with him. Another girl claimed that apartment also has a connection to some Colombian gangs that operate in the area.
The vagueness surrounding the allegations is concerning but it's hard to discount "firsthand" testimony that is seemingly corroborated by individual girls. It's also hard to say whether it's a systemic thing or just a couple of sick fucks who need to be put down. It would be great to actually get some confirmation from other girls that other mongers can ask, but I just consider it now being a case of individual bad actors. Personally, I'd like to just believe it's all hearsay and fiction because it would really suck if that's the case. But Medellin being the way it is, who knows?Hotel Boulevar Botero there is a bald short Israeli guy. Third floor left window room been there for 3+ years. Does drugs (no idea what ones), likes young girls, and hangs with the drug dealers that hang in the alleyway on the side of the church. Most of the foreigner "rats" do not like him at all. One guy in particular likes just about everyone BUT that Israeli guy so that says something. I hate the guy too. Pretty sure he is there illegally. If what the girls says is true it will eventually blow up and make ALL foreigners look bad. If I was there I would have a local make a certain "complaint". I know he is in on it one way or another.
As long as they bring the right shoes most of the girls from Medellin could climb those stairs without breaking a sweat. If the take the metro they likely climb that much pretty well every day. In any case they are a lot more able to do that than 95% of their gringo customers.OMG, not a good comparison. I ride the metro often. I'm tired when I get to the top of the steps, but I always make it. More than five years ago, I went to the top of the rock. I had to stop a number of times to get there. I was over 70 years old at the time. I will agree that it was much easier for my lady friend, but she was in her 20's.
OMG, not a good comparison. I ride the metro often. I'm tired when I get to the top of the steps, but I always make it. More than five years ago, I went to the top of the rock. I had to stop a number of times to get there. I was over 70 years old at the time. I will agree that it was much easier for my lady friend, but she was in her 20's.Virtually all these chicas will love to climb the rock. They're in their 20's and it's a lot more fun than climbing the metro platform.
My God, this is a nightmare scenario. I will say that I meet quite a few Israelis around town. I don't know that any of them are involved in this sort of stuff.
I couldn't validate any of this so I have no idea if it's true or not, simply that 2 separate girls mentioned it to me as we talked and one other girl agreed when I explicitly asked her about it. So take this with a grain of salt because I can't find any info and they didn't give me the actual address. I was just surprised that the girls all seemed to know about the place.
Essentially, there is an apartment complex in Centro that the girls claimed is owned by and mostly serves Israelis. They said that a lot of the guys there are known to go after and traffic in minors and really young working girls. Additionally, it seems the punters are forcefully pushing girls they pick up, either in Lleras or Centro, to take hard drugs like heroin and meth. One of the girls was asked by a friend to join a group of girls who were being set up to a group of travelers in that hotel. She was told to say she was 16 (she was 20 at the time) and that a guy got violent with her when she didn't want to shoot up heroin with him. Another girl claimed that apartment also has a connection to some Colombian gangs that operate in the area.
The vagueness surrounding the allegations is concerning but it's hard to discount "firsthand" testimony that is seemingly corroborated by individual girls. It's also hard to say whether it's a systemic thing or just a couple of sick fucks who need to be put down. It would be great to actually get some confirmation from other girls that other mongers can ask, but I just consider it now being a case of individual bad actors. Personally, I'd like to just believe it's all hearsay and fiction because it would really suck if that's the case. But Medellin being the way it is, who knows?
OMG, not a good comparison. I ride the metro often. I'm tired when I get to the top of the steps, but I always make it. More than five years ago, I went to the top of the rock. I had to stop a number of times to get there. I was over 70 years old at the time. I will agree that it was much easier for my lady friend, but she was in her 20's.Its not the direct comparison. Its just that if you are going up and down 3 to 5 stories using the metro platforms day after day you will be in much better shape for climbing than the average gringo. And when I walk from the Poblado metro station up to Parque Lleras, as I generally do, I do notice that after a week or so it gets a lot easier and after a few weeks I forget that it is uphill. And most of the locals walking up at the same time don't seem to notice that it is uphill either. But I know very few gringos that will even do that walk and there are lots that couldn't even if they wanted to. After a month or so of that the El Penol isn't as bad, although I did stop for a break a couple of times for sure.
SoloTraveler10
08-16-24, 05:09
I'll be solo traveling in December or January for a week as a first time visitor. My street smart is eh. For those who frequent lleras park (or really anywhere), do you always invite the girls you want back to your own room or find a short stay hotel to walk to? I'm reading some of you follow the girl to a hotel she recommends which to me seems like there's a possibility of a set up.
I was watching a few videos at this park and there's either dozens of women just standing around looking lost along that I'm thinking are workers, especially if they have BBLs bigger than a pregnant woman's stomach.
DiscoverFL
08-16-24, 13:34
Can you elaborate?What I heard from a girl is more positive. That there is a apartment / private-bar run by Israelis that girls go to hangout and meet guys and operates similar to the Mansion (Hotel M) bar. Girl who told me said she has been, and it was packed and fun. She plans to go back. But I have no first-hand knowledge of the place or where it is.
DiscoverFL
08-16-24, 13:37
I'll be solo traveling in December or January for a week as a first time visitor. My street smart is eh. For those who frequent lleras park (or really anywhere), do you always invite the girls you want back to your own room or find a short stay hotel to walk to? I'm reading some of you follow the girl to a hotel she recommends which to me seems like there's a possibility of a set up. I was watching a few videos at this park and there's either dozens of women just standing around looking lost along that I'm thinking are workers, especially if they have BBLs bigger than a pregnant woman's stomach.January may be better than December, when travel is more expensive, and a lot of people are spending time with families (a lot of foreign Colombians fly home for the holidays). By mid-January things calm down (after Three Kings Day). Being your first time visit, you may want to check out the bar at Hotel M (aka The Mansion) where girls are ID-checked prior to entry. I'd also find a calm hour or two and skim back 200 posts in this forum. That will give you insight and knowledge that you may critically need to insure a safe good time.
Hotel Boulevar Botero there is a bald short Israeli guy. Third floor left window room been there for 3+ years. Does drugs (no idea what ones), likes young girls, and hangs with the drug dealers that hang in the alleyway on the side of the church. Most of the foreigner "rats" do not like him at all. One guy in particular likes just about everyone BUT that Israeli guy so that says something. I hate the guy too. Pretty sure he is there illegally. If what the girls says is true it will eventually blow up and make ALL foreigners look bad. If I was there I would have a local make a certain "complaint". I know he is in on it one way or another.When I travel I mind my own business and let their authorities do their job.
ElSexoChino7
08-16-24, 14:42
This report was over due and I finally had the time to finish it. I don't come here on the site often, but I appreciate the reports from the fellow mongers. In return, I will give back my fair share of contribution. This will be a long report but I always try to make it as detailed as possible.
PARQUE LLERAS.
I go to Parque lleras at least once or twice per trip just to see the new talents. As always, take high precautions when picking up girls there. There's still plenty of gems to find there if you know what you're doing. I recommend going there after 1:00 am on the weekends, as you have more girls hanging out outside the clubs. I pulled one chica there on a Saturday night for 400 k and she stayed with me all night. I'll rate her 8 on my scale. 28 year old Vennie, big tits, small waist and a big ass. Crazy ass body. Definitely on my top 5. She originally quoted me for 500 k for an hour but was able to talked her down to that price since it is already getting late. The thing about Parque lleras, is you have a higher success on negotiation after 1:00 am. The later it goes, the better. Either the girls go home without getting any client or take your offer and make some money. Of course, ymmv. I used indriver as it is more reliable and faster than Uber during those times. I asked her for bbj and she got her baby wipes first from her purse to wipe junior off even though I already told her that I just took a shower before seeing her. This kills the mood all the time. The BBJ did not disappoint though and was totally worth it. She got amazing tongue and almost got me cum. Banged her that night and banged her again before she left in the morning and feed her breakfast before sending her home. I will definitely repeat with her on my next trip.
HOTEL M (THE MANSION).
I decided to meet up with one of the ISG member (won't say his name for privacy) and went to Hotel M (The Mansion). Thursday night and I got there around 9:30 pm. 50 k entrance fee, if you're non-guest. There were few girls sitting in the lounge and I go straight to the bar. Bartender was hot BTW. Met the ISG guy and his girl. He told me that Bartenders don't play and they are off limits LOL. Got me a corona for 15 k. Introduced me to some girls there as well. I found 2 girls that are doable. A 20 yr old that was her first time in the mansion and very new to the game. Cute face, spinner body and size D natural tits. I said Hello, to her, introduced myself and asked her Whatsapp right away. Girls started arriving around 10:30 pm. Around 20+ girls that time. Some mongers also arrive at the same time. There were plenty of good selection and I was told that the same girls goes to Parque lleras if they don't get clients there. All the girls are signed in and checked their ID's. I can vouch that they have safe environment going on there. Going rate right now there is 300 k. I stayed past 11:00 pm and then decided to go with the 20 yr old big tits girl. I offered her 400 k all night, she said she can't stay all night. I said okay, negotiated on that price and agreed to stay with me until 4:00 am. I told her I want to dance and she told me she likes reggaeton so we went to one of the discoteca in Laureles. Grinding on her ass was very fine to warm me up. She was wearing a mini skirt, so I was literally feeling her ass directly as her skirt goes up while we are dancing. We got some food before heading up to my hotel because she told me she's hungry. She gave me a very inexperienced BBJ and had to give her instructions. Her double the tits was amazing to play though and she lets me sucked it until I'm satisfied. Sex was okay, but the tits makes up for everything LOL. Finished her in doggy and we cuddle for the rest of hours while watching Netflix. I convinced her to just stay until morning since it is already that late, but she insisted that she needs to be home before sunrise. Paid for her taxi. Experience could be better, but I still enjoyed it. I'll probably will not repeat. I was just trying to be experimental and learned a lesson there.
SEEKING.
Sunday morning, I hit up the girl I met from last trip because she gave me an amazing fuck last time. She said she's free in the afternoon. I ordered Uber to pick her up in Laureles at 12:30 pm and she arrived outside my hotel at 1:00 pm. We planned to go to Viva Envigado mall to have lunch, because I told her I never been there. We walked around first as the mall is very massive. Lots of shops to look around and plenty of girls to see as well. It's got to be the biggest mall in Medellin. I told her she can pick where we eat and she said "Crepes and Waffles". I never understand the hype as I see a lot of Colombians eat there all the time and it seems to be the favorite so I said 'yes' to try it out. I ordered her recommendation which is "Crepes con pollo y verduras". She ordered her favorite "Crepes con pollo y championes". Maann, the food was actually good and I was impressed. I would say their crepes are good because of lots of variations to choose from. Everything else in the menu are mostly basic and Americanized food. We walked around for a bit before heading up to my hotel. She played some reggaeton on the YouTube app on TV, we danced and she started grinding her ass on me and I just went along started taking her clothes off. I leaned on her face and started DFK, she was very passionate. My favorite about her. I was getting so hard down there, while she started stroking junior slowly. I took her clothes off until we are down on her underwear. I noticed she gained some weight, but complemented her that she still looks hot and jokingly told her politely. She said she quit her cashier job last February because, they tried to cut her hours and was not worth going back because she doesn't really get paid that much. I asked her for BBJ, and she delivered it like last time. Eye contact and licking balls. Love to see her pretty face while sucking me. We did doggy and the view of her back was amazing like last time, no tattoos, just a plain white skinned paisa. Every stroke turns me on. Me pounding her soft ass was very ecstatic and she was getting tired in en quatro position so we switched to CG. Her beautiful size C tits bouncing in front of my face was the highlight. I had to sucked it and she pulled my head closer to her chest and felt her legs shaking. I told her I want to cum in her stomach and I took the condom off and busted my load there. We took shower together. Chill in the bed after and watch her favorite tv show on Netflix until evening. Banged her again before she left around 8:00 pm. Gave her 500 k. I was completely drained.
MASAJISTASPAISAS.COM
I tried Evelyn, because she was recommended by one of the member here. I sent her a message 10:30 am to booked an appointment for 12:00 noon and she responded after few minutes telling me that I can see her at 1:00 pm. Went to the address and it's located in Torres del Rio, Poblado. I am her first client. I went up, she opened the door wearing black lingerie. I described her as petite, curvy, long black pretty hair, boobs was definitely done, but they looked great. She does not look exactly from the photos but it's her. Photos was heavily filtered. She asked me how much time, told her an hour (200 k) and ask for oral natural (additional 50 k) and told me to get comfortable. We started chatting about random stuff while she grabbed her hand sanitizer and asked me to sanitize my hands. Then she gets her baby wipes to wipe junior off. I guess, this 'wipe dick' routine is now normalize for most girls. At least I know her mouth is clean LOL. She made it up with BBJ, very passionate, while keeping eye contact. Decided to play with her tits and they felt amazingly soft and almost the real deal. Her mouth was very warm, I want to just keep fucking her mouth, bust a load in there and call it a day, but she told me she is getting tired. She asked me if I'm ready to go inside her, I ask for missionary so I can see her tits bounce. She put the condom on, I start stroking her slowly. She is very wet, I wanted to just take the condom off, but don't want to cross that line LOL. She kept her eye contact while I look way and watch those tits bounce. I sucked those perfect sized nipples and told me to be gentle while doing so. I stroke faster and she started moaning while pulling my waist harder for every stroke. She asked me if I want to try a different position, I told her 'en quatro'. She responded that her legs are already tired, so she just turned her back, laid down. I put junior back inside her pussy, started stroking again, but this time she squeeze junior with her legs and her ass while I stroke faster. I finished and we clean up. We talked for a bit and I decided to head out as I got hungry after all that fucking. I would definitely repeat with her next time. She's pretty chill and has a nice personality.
FACEBOOK.
I made a Facebook account last year for the purpose of mongering in Medellin. Put a fake name and set the location in Medellin. I started adding girls and now I have 80+ girls in my friends list. I did not have a successful meeting on any of the girls on this past trip, but here are some of my experience after interacting with them:
Girl 1.
Found this girl which has the body type that I really like. She's definitely a solid 9 on my scale. But she quoted me 700 k for an hour. I decided to pass.
Girl 2:
This Venezuelan chick wants money ahead of time before meeting up for her sick mother in the hospital. Hard pass.
Girl 3:
I set up a dinner date with this girl. She agreed, but told me that she needed a new eye lashes (pestańas) or else she will not go out. I asked how much for that just out of curiosity, she said it cost 50 k-150 k depending on what kind. I told her she does not need it as she is naturally beautiful. Even offered to compensate her time for coming out. She insists she needed eye lashes. I just give up.
I will give Facebook a try again on the next trip with more added girls. Seems like it's more of a numbers game. I like the convenience on setting up a date on Seeking and online websites and not to worry about dealing with all the BS in Facebook. I will update again on my next trip to Medellin.
As of a few days ago, when I arrived, the lines were pass the restrooms. It took over an hour and a half. It is luck of the draw but the lines can be long.
When I checked in for my flight, the agent was very strict in making sure that you filled out your MIG form. As in the past, there are always always a number of people made to move to the side so they could fill out their form.
I prefer to get my money from the ATM at the airport before leaving. There is one ATM on the first floor but more ATMs upstairs.
White taxis to Medellin are 110 mil. Yes I know you could take that bus and then take a taxi but I'm tired after that flight in the long lines at immigration. I just want to relax and get to my hotel.
With all that done, time to enjoy Medellin!
I set up a dinner date with this girl.They are sex workers. My observation is that you are wasting time and money before sex on a first date. It will come in time but I will keep it simple the first date. Besides you can do all these things at your place and you don't have to lock into one plan outside.
If you can handle SA, you should be able to handle FB.
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08-16-24, 16:44
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Exoticspirit
08-16-24, 19:29
HOTEL M (THE MANSION).
I decided to meet up with one of the ISG member (won't say his name for privacy) and went to Hotel M (The Mansion). Thursday night and I got there around 9:30 pm. 50 k entrance fee, if you're non-guest. There were few girls sitting in the lounge and I go straight to the bar. Bartender was hot BTW. Met the ISG guy and his girl. He told me that Bartenders don't play and they are off limits LOL. Got me a corona for 15 k. Introduced me to some girls there as well. I found 2 girls that are doable. A 20 yr old that was her first time in the mansion and very new to the game. Cute face, spinner body and size D natural tits. I said Hello, to her, introduced myself and asked her Whatsapp right away. Girls started arriving around 10:30 pm. Around 20+ girls that time. Some mongers also arrive at the same time. There were plenty of good selection and I was told that the same girls goes to Parque lleras if they don't get clients there. All the girls are signed in and checked their ID's. I can vouch that they have safe environment going on there. Going rate right now there is 300 k. I stayed past 11:00 pm and then decided to go with the 20 yr old big tits girl. I offered her 400 k all night, she said she can't stay all night. I said okay, negotiated on that price and agreed to stay with me until 4:00 am. I told her I want to dance and she told me she likes reggaeton so we went to one of the discoteca in Laureles. Grinding on her ass was very fine to warm me up. She was wearing a mini skirt, so I was literally feeling her ass directly as her skirt goes up while we are dancing. We got some food before heading up to my hotel because she told me she's hungry. She gave me a very inexperienced BBJ and had to give her instructions. Her double the tits was amazing to play though and she lets me sucked it until I'm satisfied. Sex was okay, but the tits makes up for everything LOL. Finished her in doggy and we cuddle for the rest of hours while watching Netflix. I convinced her to just stay until morning since it is already that late, but she insisted that she needs to be home before sunrise. Paid for her taxi. Experience could be better, but I still enjoyed it. I'll probably will not repeat. I was just trying to be experimental and learned a lesson there.
Thanks for your report. I'm going to stay at the Mansion again for my next trip. The girls at the Mansion bar are always quoting 300 K but most of them can be had for 250 K which is what I offer. Out of the three nights I was there, only one refused anything lower than 300 K but all the others gladly accepted my 250 counter-offer right away.
As of a few days ago, when I arrived, the lines were pass the restrooms. It took over an hour and a half. It is luck of the draw but the lines can be long.
When I checked in for my flight, the agent was very strict in making sure that you filled out your MIG form. May I ask, what time did you arrive, and what airline? I usually arrive around 5 pm and very seldom have a long line. My next trip is scheduled to arrive at 10:50 pm. I've arrived at that time once before, but don't remember the situation at immigration.
Some very good reports here lately, soaking everything up for my upcoming trip, once thing I want to ask for experienced folks here is do you negotiate what you want from the experience or date like BBBJ etc up front when you pick chicas from the streets or FB casas etc.
Or do you wait till you have them in your room. If I am not mistaken I have heard arguments about both personally I want to be clear upfront about what I want but that might backfire maybe girls are more willing to do things once they get to know you a little but then it can be a dissapointment also when you don't get what you were looking for.
Thanks.
May I ask, what time did you arrive, and what airline? I usually arrive around 5 pm and very seldom have a long line. My next trip is scheduled to arrive at 10:50 pm. I've arrived at that time once before, but don't remember the situation at immigration.It was 2 pm on a Wednesday. It was another flight that came in half an hour earlier.
My God, this is a nightmare scenario. I will say that I meet quite a few Israelis around town. I don't know that any of them are involved in this sort of stuff.This is a similar story to a known place in Cartagena. My only advise unless you can read the people behind it well to stay away.
Some very good reports here lately, soaking everything up for my upcoming trip, once thing I want to ask for experienced folks here is do you negotiate what you want from the experience or date like BBBJ etc up front when you pick chicas from the streets or FB casas etc.
Or do you wait till you have them in your room. If I am not mistaken I have heard arguments about both personally I want to be clear upfront about what I want but that might backfire maybe girls are more willing to do things once they get to know you a little but then it can be a dissapointment also when you don't get what you were looking for.
Thanks.Always best to settle everything up front. Price, time, services, etc. If you don't then it could be a bad date. She might not do the things you like, she could demand a large fee, she may be planning a quickie while you want to relax, drink & talk 1st. If she agrees to things before you get to room, almost always she will follow through.
1) depends on venue. The cheaper it is the more you will want to hammer it out. Negotiate it all ahead of time at casas and in the street. Things like BBBJ are expected with most girls on Facebook.
2) Is it one time or are you looking for a repeat girl. I prefer to not negotiate at all with Facebook girls. Partly I enjoy the hunt and achievement of getting them to open up sexually to me about their kinks and also want to please me. But the girls who do are also the best ones to repeat with. It's more GFE and spontaneous. But if you plan on never seeing her again I'd make sure you are getting as much of what you want as possible.
3) Depends on your own abilities and needs. If something is a must to get off then I'd negotiate it ahead of time. You will also get more freebies if you can communicate well in Spanish and be a bit charming than if not.
Some very good reports here lately, soaking everything up for my upcoming trip, once thing I want to ask for experienced folks here is do you negotiate what you want from the experience or date like BBBJ etc up front when you pick chicas from the streets or FB casas etc.
Or do you wait till you have them in your room. If I am not mistaken I have heard arguments about both personally I want to be clear upfront about what I want but that might backfire maybe girls are more willing to do things once they get to know you a little but then it can be a dissapointment also when you don't get what you were looking for.
Thanks.
Some very good reports here lately, soaking everything up for my upcoming trip, once thing I want to ask for experienced folks here is do you negotiate what you want from the experience or date like BBBJ etc up front when you pick chicas from the streets or FB casas etc.You should negotiate what you must have and use it as a learning experience to develop your own style. It takes less than a minute to avoid the potential trouble later in the room. Even in Brazil where BBBJ is the default, you still have to ask. Every time when I felt comfortable and didn't ask, I regretted it. Multiple times, the girl wanted to up-charge me for something that is usually free when we were completely naked. One time, I wanted to get another girl because the one I had did not do BBBJ, the new girl came in and asked me to pay extra when I was naked. LOL. There is another member who always went with the flow and did not ask, but one time he hit the jackpot and found a girl did not provide BBBJ in the room.
When I see a very attractive girl in El Centro, I don't negotiate at all because it is a bargain. In Medellin, you definitely have to negotiate in the the more expensive places because when the price rises, the service is also reduced compared to before.
I have read that the water here is safe to drink. Still I usually buy bottled water But you're constantly buying water in the supermarket and throwing out bottles. On my last trip I decided just drink tap water. I purchased one water bottle and just refilled it from the top. At the end of the trip, I didn't have any issues. So on this trip, I'm going to do the same. I'll let you know if I have any issues. It's not really a matter of money, it's a matter of convenience and being environmentally friendly for me.
Husker Dude
08-17-24, 17:56
I have read that the water here is safe to drink. Still I usually buy bottled water But you're constantly buying water in the supermarket and throwing out bottles. On my last trip I decided just drink tap water. I purchased one water bottle and just refilled it from the top. At the end of the trip, I didn't have any issues. So on this trip, I'm going to do the same. I'll let you know if I have any issues. It's not really a matter of money, it's a matter of convenience and being environmentally friendly for me.I've never had any problems with the water in Medellin.
I've never had any problems with the water in Medellin.I have, once anyway. Wan't fun. Problem is if the water gets turned off and underground supply pipes leak then there can be infiltration. And there are leaks, you see them at times. So they need to super chlorinate and flush the system when this happens. They don't. So you can get contaminated water. Luck of the draw.
I have, once anyway. Wan't fun. Problem is if the water gets turned off and underground supply pipes leak then there can be infiltration. And there are leaks, you see them at times. So they need to super chlorinate and flush the system when this happens. They don't. So you can get contaminated water. Luck of the draw.Their lead pipes leach into the water and make you retarded, the more you drink.
Their lead pipes leach into the water and make you retarded, the more you drink.So are you saying all the people in Medellin are retarded because in Santo Domingo barrio, where I live when I am there, everyone drinks the tap water. Just after it's been cut off and cut back on you have to let it run for a minute to get all the crap out and after it runs clear again it is safe to drink. You can also buy a water filter to run it through but it isn't necessary water in Medellin is potable and perfectly safe to drink and I've been drinking it on and off since 2020.
So are you saying all the people in Medellin are retarded because in Santo Domingo barrio, where I live when I am there, everyone drinks the tap water. Just after it's been cut off and cut back on you have to let it run for a minute to get all the crap out and after it runs clear again it is safe to drink. You can also buy a water filter to run it through but it isn't necessary water in Medellin is potable and perfectly safe to drink and I've been drinking it on and off since 2020.Just ask the residents of Flint Michigan why they are replacing all their lead pipes and blaming the water supply for their retarded kids. It probably has something to do with their parents being on crack and not helping them with homework also.
The filters you add to your kitchen faucet only remove the large stuff, like bugs, worm eggs. Refrigerators have filters also, but they only remove large gunk like mud and sediment from the water supply. You think it is safe to drink "filtered" water, but fluoride, lead, and other chemicals remain in the water. It does not remove the lead that is bonded to the H2O. That goes into your body and settles in your brain. It is not excreted or removed by your liver or kidneys. I am a doctor.
Problem is if the water gets turned off and underground supply pipes leak then there can be infiltration. ... So they need to super chlorinate and flush the system when this happens. They don't. So you can get contaminated water.It's about as healthy to drink the Medellin water as it is to drink chlorinated swimming pool water, after the neighborhood kids have peed in it. You still get fluoride, lead, and many metals leaching from the old pipes that filters cannot remove. PVC pipes is supposed to be better, but the PVC is polyvinyl chloride and that is not healthy to have in your body also.
PVC is made with vinyl chloride, a gas that's a known carcinogen and endocrine disruptor. Long-term exposure to vinyl chloride through inhalation or orally can cause liver damage and increase the risk of a rare form of liver cancer. The EPA has called vinyl chloride a human carcinogen, and in December 2023 announced it would include vinyl chloride in its list of priority chemicals for risk assessment. Vinyl chloride can also enter drinking water when it comes into contact with PVC pipes.
Toxic chemicals.
Independent researchers have identified up to 50 toxic chemicals that PVC pipes can release, including benzene, styrene, chlorine gas, ethylene dichloride, asbestos, PFAS, and mercury. These chemicals can cause health problems like liver, brain, and lung cancers, lymphoma, leukemia, and hormone disruption.
Captain Solo
08-18-24, 18:34
Is a common problem all over the world, really bad in poor countries.
It has severe long-term effects on physical and mental health, like kidney and liver failures, retardation which may show up in your offspring.
To avoid problems, drink only canned beers by major international brands on the road.
I am a doctor.But not an MD. Right?
TheDerilious
08-19-24, 01:44
For those who frequent lleras park (or really anywhere), do you always invite the girls you want back to your own room or find a short stay hotel to walk to? I'm reading some of you follow the girl to a hotel she recommends which to me seems like there's a possibility of a set up.I always invite the girl back to my place and I've never had an issue. But I'm always in a place with security and I never leave them alone unless it's for a short time like going to the restroom. I haven't had any real experiences with girls in Medellin getting handsy with my stuff. Hell, I usually leave a bunch of snacks out and the ladies usually ask me before eating anything. If you're not wasted beyond recognition and generally aware of things, I feel that most of the girls understand not to show their barrio side (maybe until they get to know you).
I've never brought two girls at once in Medellin so I can't vouch for that scenario.
JaySingh1010
08-19-24, 02:06
Has the app worked for anyone?
Or should I just use the website? Can someone please share correct the link.
So I got. Flight, hotel and MIG form. Do I need anything else?
It's about as healthy to drink the Medellin water as it is to drink chlorinated swimming pool water, after the neighborhood kids have peed in it. You still get fluoride, lead, and many metals leaching from the old pipes that filters cannot remove. PVC pipes is supposed to be better, but the PVC is polyvinyl chloride and that is not healthy to have in your body also.What water would you recommend to drink in Medellin?
Just ask the residents of Flint Michigan why they are replacing all their lead pipes and blaming the water supply for their retarded kids. It probably has something to do with their parents being on crack and not helping them with homework also.
The filters you add to your kitchen faucet only remove the large stuff, like bugs, worm eggs. Refrigerators have filters also, but they only remove large gunk like mud and sediment from the water supply. You think it is safe to drink "filtered" water, but fluoride, lead, and other chemicals remain in the water. It does not remove the lead that is bonded to the H2O. That goes into your body and settles in your brain. It is not excreted or removed by your liver or kidneys. I am a doctor.Most older houses in cities I have lived in once had lead pipe into the house from whatever the main lines were from the city. There have been mandates to replace all of these but there are still older houses that have lead pipes coming in from the streets. The city I live in they all were lead for a hundred years or more, and only in the last 30 years have been replaced. And likely those created problems, especially if the chemistry of the water was such that lead was absorbed and or released more readily. Not saying any of this is good. But many people have lived normal lives it seems in spite of things like this.
Mr Enternational
08-19-24, 06:34
Has the app worked for anyone?
Or should I just use the website? Can someone please share correct the link.
So I got. Flight, hotel and MIG form. Do I need anything else?I stopped filling that thing out a long time ago. I have a buddy that went to Colombia for the first time Thursday and he did not fill it out either. If it is still a thing, then it is not enforced.
JaySingh1010
08-19-24, 14:26
My flight is from IAD to Bogota to Medellin.
For MIG form, my immigration check point will be Bogota or MDE?
JohnnieCash
08-19-24, 14:31
But many people have lived normal lives it seems in spite of things like this.Perhaps if they didn't drink spiked water they could've lived longer healthier lives, and be a bit smarter than they end up being, say by 5-10%. It can be subtle. Whether that's true or not is basically impossible to prove either way though.
Has the app worked for anyone?
Or should I just use the website? Can someone please share correct the link.
So I got. Flight, hotel and MIG form. Do I need anything else?I don't understand your questions since you say you have the Mig form. Anyhow, I just filled out the form a few minutes ago and it is working up to the step where you state that everything is correct. But they send confirmation to your email before that, so I think that step is not necessary.
The website is https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/en .
It appears the problem right now is with sending the final confirmation to your email, with the attachment. I went to the process to check my form and it says it was submitted, but it errors when I try to download it.
Is a common problem all over the world, really bad in poor countries.
It has severe long-term effects on physical and mental health, like kidney and liver failures, retardation which may show up in your offspring.Many of the older homes in the US still have lead pipes in them. Most people where and when I was growing up lived to be in their 70's and 80's, and very few had dementia or Alzheimer's. It seems modern "science" comes up with a new hazard too often.
I stopped filling that thing out a long time ago. I have a buddy that went to Colombia for the first time Thursday and he did not fill it out either. If it is still a thing, then it is not enforced.I would not recommend not filling out the form. The problem is that some airlines require you to fill out the MIG form before you can fly. I can tell you that Spirit Airlines requires you to show the approved MIG form before boarding. Passengers who did not fill it out were required to step aside and fill out. My understanding is that immigration can see the information when they enter your passport number and the info on the MIG form is on the system.
But you guys can do whatever you want. I will always fill out that form. It doesn't take that long and it is better to be safe than sorry.
I will list the following that I have personally stayed at and taken girls to:
1) Hotel Selis. Great hotel, 1 block from the west end of Lleras Park. Be sure to get a room facing the street and not at the back of the hotel, otherwise you'll be hearing club music till 4-5 AM and it'll be a rough time getting to sleep (if that's a goal). Great views from the high floors on the street side. They will charge $100 k COP to take a girl up, approximately $25 USD. The first one for me has always been free. Sometimes they don't charge me either, not sure why, but just take a copy of her ID and send us up. Great guys who work the front desk and the cleaning ladies do a great job and are super nice as well.
2) Hotel Nakua - 1 block from Provenza, up the hill, just off Calle 10 - also great hotel, with great mattresses, nice views, especially from the high floors. Always charge for guests, always take and confirm IDs, always make sure you're safe before letting the girls leave. Front desk guy, I forget his name, is super cool, I've had lots of good conversations with him. Deep voiced security guy is also great.
3) Torre Poblado Apartasuites. Most recent place I stayed. Interestingly, they only charged me for 1 guest of the 3 I took up. She was the second one on the same day, which may be the reason, but honestly I'm not sure, because I took 2 up on Sunday afternoon and they didn't charge me for either one. So YMMV.
4) Hotel Lleras 10 - right on Calle 10,1 block from Lleras park west entrance on Calle 10 - Confirmed in person with the front desk girls that the hotel does not charge for guests, and you can bring as many as you want. The girls at the front desk told me that *every* guest has to have a current passport (foreigners) or Colombian ID for guests. They will take and retain a copy of the ID for all guests, but told me no charge and I can bring as many as I want. I didn't see the rooms, but online says they're basically just OK. If anyone can confirm, that'd be handy info.
5) Lleras Garden Hostel. Nice, small, boutique type hostel / hotel. On busy nights, basically Thurs. Sunday nights, they do rent their rooms short time to punters. You show up with your girl, they take copies of all of them, send you to the room for $40 k, I think, for up to 2 hours. They also rent rooms on a long term basis, and I would stay there. Supposedly there's no cost to have guests when you're a long term hotel guest, but I did not confirm that.
There's also several others in and around Lleras that allow guests. I am not sure why the ones you contacted stated that they don't when even a nearly new "co-working" hotel in Laureles (Factory Lofts) has a guest policy that beyond the first checked guest, you have to pay an additional charge of $100 k COP per guest. And they are FAR from the hot spots for working girls.
In short, every hotel I've stayed in so far has allowed them, either explicitly in their policy, or just take the photocopies of the IDs and charge you a fee when the girls show up, so basically not outright stating that it's allowed, but permitting it nonetheless.
Best of luck and have fun!!
Nomars777.Thank you for the great report.
do you negotiate what you want from the experience or date like BBBJ etc up front when you pick chicas from the streets or FB casas etc.
Or do you wait till you have them in your room. I never negotiate upfront, unless its smthg completely different, like a 3-some. I can't think of a bigger mood killer, than pre-planning what we are going to do. What happened to spontaneity! I find gilrs will let you know soon eenough if they don't want to do smthg once you start. Also if they expect extra payment for anything. If not then it's on them, not you / me.
TheDerilious
08-19-24, 20:29
I never negotiate upfront, unless its smthg completely different, like a 3-some. I can't think of a bigger mood killer, than pre-planning what we are going to do. What happened to spontaneity! I find gilrs will let you know soon eenough if they don't want to do smthg once you start. Also if they expect extra payment for anything. If not then it's on them, not you / me.You only need to negotiate upfront if you have a request that is a dealbreaker, I. E. It would ruin your experience to not get it. If you really want GFE or BBFS, then it would be a really annoying time to bring a girl back and waste your time. It seems weird to not make sure your dealbreaker services are covered because it's not as if you're going to offend the ladies. It's their job and they will tell what they don't want to do or if it's going to cost extra. And it's not like it's going to change the mood of the session. If you don't have hard requirements or are open to whatever happens, then yes, there is no need to negotiate very much outside of the main price. If you don't mind saying no to the upcharge and doing without the service you want, then you're good.
On the other hand, I don't recommend that anybody leave their safety and life up to a WG, especially when you're in a foreign country. In my opinion, you should never be saying "That's on you, not me. " You're the foreigner; you're tolerated, but not particularly liked there. Locals don't like seeing asshole foreigners stiffing girls on their payment and lording over "their" (even if they are Venezuelan) women like kings. All it takes is one of these girls not leaving after you decide to not pay for a service to make for a really bad time. Especially for those who don't speak Spanish, you're putting a lot of faith in the police or local boys to take your side. Imagine some girl complaining to them about you being an asshole, while you're sitting there trying to type up "it's on her, not me" into Google Translate like a doofus. It seems really weird to take the chance of ruining your night on some BS when you could say at the beginning, "I will pay x to get why. Ok?
You only need to negotiate upfront if you have a request that is a dealbreaker, I. E. It would ruin your experience to not get it. If you really want GFE or BBFS, then it would be a really annoying time to bring a girl back and waste your time. It seems weird to not make sure your dealbreaker services are covered because it's not as if you're going to offend the ladies. It's their job and they will tell what they don't want to do or if it's going to cost extra. And it's not like it's going to change the mood of the session. If you don't have hard requirements or are open to whatever happens, then yes, there is no need to negotiate very much outside of the main price. If you don't mind saying no to the upcharge and doing without the service you want, then you're good.
On the other hand, I don't recommend that anybody leave their safety and life up to a WG, especially when you're in a foreign country. In my opinion, you should never be saying "That's on you, not me. " You're the foreigner; you're tolerated, but not particularly liked there. Locals don't like seeing asshole foreigners stiffing girls on their payment and lording over "their" (even if they are Venezuelan) women like kings. All it takes is one of these girls not leaving after you decide to not pay for a service to make for a really bad time. Especially for those who don't speak Spanish, you're putting a lot of faith in the police or local boys to take your side. Imagine some girl complaining to them about you being an asshole, while you're sitting there trying to type up "it's on her, not me" into Google Translate like a doofus. It seems really weird to take the chance of ruining your night on some BS when you could say at the beginning, "I will pay x to get why. Ok?I agree. Why leave things to chance? If there are things that you want a girl to do, and you want to make sure that you have that experience, then you should ask for it. If it is going to be extra, it makes sense to know how much she will be asking and to negotiate if necessary. If you want a bareback blowjob, it would be nice to know if she does it and if extra, how much it will cost. Otherwise, you take her to the room, she starts putting on a condom for the blowjob and then you say, I want no condom BJ and she asks I don't do that.
In the end, you guys can do what you want. I am giving you my opinion and what I do. I ask for what I want and there has to be an agreement on price before we meet.
My flight is from IAD to Bogota to Medellin.
For MIG form, my immigration check point will be Bogota or MDE?Your immigration check point must match the flight number entering Colombia. The box for immigration checkpoint states "Enter the city of entry into the country". If you put in the correct flight number, it should autofill that box. If it doesn't, you better check that you have the correct flight number.
Explorer8939
08-20-24, 05:43
I have a trip to Medellin booked, and am trying to find the infamous Hotel Mansion to book a room.
Unfortunately, there are several hotels with similar names. Can anyone give me the specifics on THE hotel mansion?
This is their website http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html.
I have a trip to Medellin booked, and am trying to find the infamous Hotel Mansion to book a room.
Unfortunately, there are several hotels with similar names. Can anyone give me the specifics on THE hotel mansion?
Husker Dude
08-20-24, 14:54
I have a trip to Medellin booked, and am trying to find the infamous Hotel Mansion to book a room.
Unfortunately, there are several hotels with similar names. Can anyone give me the specifics on THE hotel mansion?www.hotelmedellinplaza.com
Imagine some girl complaining to them about you being an asshole, while you're sitting there trying to type up "it's on her, not me" into Google Translate like a doofus. It seems really weird to take the chance of ruining your night on some BS when you could say at the beginning, "I will pay x to get why. Ok?Thats on you, not me.
Has anyone been to one of those foam parties at a finca in Copacobana / Girardota? Or has experience attending one? I have seen photos and stories from that place posted by p4 p girls many times, and have always been curious. The next party is scheduled for this Saturday (Aug 24th) and I'm wondering if any of you gents are going to attend. Some info about what to expect would be appreciated. All I know is that the rooms are dorm style, and there is an option to rent a camping tent. There is a bar / restaurant on site. The party is 24 hrs long. They say the invite a bunch of girls, but supposedly they are not p4 p, but the host said one can get lucky with some game.
If anyone wants to join, pm me.
Explorer8939
08-21-24, 00:57
This is their website http://www.hotelmedellinplaza.com/index.html.Thanks.
The website refers to M1 and M2.
Which is the original La Mansióand?
ElSexoChino7
08-21-24, 15:20
Has anyone been to one of those foam parties at a finca in Copacobana / Girardota? Or has experience attending one? I have seen photos and stories from that place posted by p4 p girls many times, and have always been curious. The next party is scheduled for this Saturday (Aug 24th) and I'm wondering if any of you gents are going to attend. Some info about what to expect would be appreciated. All I know is that the rooms are dorm style, and there is an option to rent a camping tent. There is a bar / restaurant on site. The party is 24 hrs long. They say the invite a bunch of girls, but supposedly they are not p4 p, but the host said one can get lucky with some game.
If anyone wants to join, pm me.I'm definitely interested to join on one of these, but just curious about the safety. I also saw these parties on one of the girls Instagram. Looks like a good time.
There was a report earlier this year or last year, I think. I don't remember when (somebody can link that report). It was a party like this somewhere in Guatape, but ended up being raided by Colombian authorities because there was drugs involved and underage girls. Dude who organized it was all over the news. Some of you probably saw the report about this.
Your PM box is full btw
I'm definitely interested to join on one of these, but just curious about the safety. I also saw these parties on one of the girls Instagram. Looks like a good time.
There was a report earlier this year or last year, I think. I don't remember when (somebody can link that report). It was a party like this somewhere in Guatape, but ended up being raided by Colombian authorities because there was drugs involved and underage girls. Dude who organized it was all over the news. Some of you probably saw the report about this.
Your PM box is full btwLegit question about safety. I honestly don't know how safe this party is going to be. I'm sure there will be plenty of drugs. Hopefully no underage girls.
Cleared my inbox, thanks!
Husker Dude
08-21-24, 16:52
Thanks.
The website refers to M1 and M2.
Which is the original La Mansiand?Only M1 now, M2 is closed to visitors.
BlueChange
08-21-24, 16:57
Your immigration check point must match the flight number entering Colombia. The box for immigration checkpoint states "Enter the city of entry into the country". If you put in the correct flight number, it should autofill that box. If it doesn't, you better check that you have the correct flight number.Bogota, always the first point of entry. You are changing planes in Bogota and will go thru customs there, then after you will go to connecting flights domestic but you will have to recheck thru security cause international and domestic are sepeate parts of the airport. But the good news is you don't have to reclaim bags, Medellin is one of those weird destinations where you can just claim them domestically at final part of destination.
AmorPorFavor
08-21-24, 21:09
I know of another guy who was sent back too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFDu6T6QbEo.
Mr Enternational
08-21-24, 21:30
I know of another guy who was sent back too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFDu6T6QbEo.How do they know who is a monger?
Bogota, always the first point of entry. Not true, or particularly close to being true. For example, Spirit Airlines flies non-stop to MDE from FLL. Avianca flies non-stop from JFK. Avianca and Aeroméxico both fly there non stop from MEX. If you want to increase your chance of being shown to be wrong, using the words "never" or "always" is a good start.
CumberlandBlue
08-21-24, 22:44
Never been to Columbia and odds are this will be my only shot to monger here. I'm hoping to find a quickie during my stay, but really the only sure chance I'll have to monger is next Sunday at 8 am At their incall. I've read the last 100 pages (you guys really love to have pissing contests) and this wasn't discussed, and the various houses do not open up that early. Has anyone done this? I've done 10 am In Tijuana (the only south of US I've mongered) and it was a tough chore and 50-50 chance of failure the times I've tried. It seems the entire city is sleeping at 8 am.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for a 10 model, but I do like GFE, sin condom if possible but I'll take what I can get I guess. Is it worth it to offer a fat propina to seal the deal? I'll be in the Laurels area by the university, so I'm looking at the online catadorcolombia site for reviews and I am finding girls saying they are available 24 hours but is that mere advertising? Any help would be appreciated.
Mr Enternational
08-21-24, 23:04
I would not recommend not filling out the form. The problem is that some airlines require you to fill out the MIG form before you can fly. I can tell you that Spirit Airlines requires you to show the approved MIG form before boarding. Not true in my case. I went on Spirit two of the times that I did not fill it out and nobody anywhere asked me for anything.
Mr Enternational
08-21-24, 23:10
Never been to Columbia and odds are this will be my only shot to monger here. I'm hoping to find a quickie during my stay, but really the only sure chance I'll have to monger is next Sunday at 8 am At their incall. I've read the last 100 pages If you have read the last 100 pages, surely you have read this report. And I am almost sure this was not a Sunday.
MASAJISTASPAISAS.COM
I tried Evelyn, because she was recommended by one of the member here. I sent her a message 10:30 am to booked an appointment for 12:00 noon and she responded after few minutes telling me that I can see her at 1:00 pm. Went to the address and it's located in Torres del Rio, Poblado. I am her first client.If hookers wanted to get up at 8 am, then they would just get regular jobs.
BlueChange
08-21-24, 23:47
Never been to Columbia and odds are this will be my only shot to monger here. I'm hoping to find a quickie during my stay, but really the only sure chance I'll have to monger is next Sunday at 8 am At their incall. I've read the last 100 pages (you guys really love to have pissing contests) and this wasn't discussed, and the various houses do not open up that early. Has anyone done this? I've done 10 am In Tijuana (the only south of US I've mongered) and it was a tough chore and 50-50 chance of failure the times I've tried. It seems the entire city is sleeping at 8 am.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for a 10 model, but I do like GFE, sin condom if possible but I'll take what I can get I guess. Is it worth it to offer a fat propina to seal the deal? I'll be in the Laurels area by the university, so I'm looking at the online catadorcolombia site for reviews and I am finding girls saying they are available 24 hours but is that mere advertising? Any help would be appreciated.You got a better chance of Stevie Wonder passing an eye exam then getting a prepago at 8 am. Let alone en Domingo.
Just move your travel plans and stay longer.
VanessasClient
08-21-24, 23:58
Never been to Columbia and odds are this will be my only shot to monger here. I'm hoping to find a quickie during my stay, but really the only sure chance I'll have to monger is next Sunday at 8 am At their incall. I've read the last 100 pages (you guys really love to have pissing contests) and this wasn't discussed, and the various houses do not open up that early. Has anyone done this? I've done 10 am In Tijuana (the only south of US I've mongered) and it was a tough chore and 50-50 chance of failure the times I've tried. It seems the entire city is sleeping at 8 am.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for a 10 model, but I do like GFE, sin condom if possible but I'll take what I can get I guess. Is it worth it to offer a fat propina to seal the deal? I'll be in the Laurels area by the university, so I'm looking at the online catadorcolombia site for reviews and I am finding girls saying they are available 24 hours but is that mere advertising? Any help would be appreciated.Correct spelling is Colombia, without the u. In any case, going to a personal incall (not brothel or strip club) in Colombia is very high risk. Some people occasionally do that in La Candelaria. But unless you speak Spanish with a Colombian accent, I personally think the risk is not worth it. Also, I think most of the girls around Parque Lleras do not have incalls in the immediate area, but you can try renting a room on the spot as an improvised method. To me that is more headache than it is worth, as you cannot guarantee availability on short notice, and the front desk staff may give you grief if they see a lady with you.
I think the only way you could see someone without the high risk of being robbed is to invite them to your place. If you have privacy issues, you could get another room at a different location. 8 AM on a Sunday morning is possible, but your best bet would be to schedule it the night before. Even if not, you can still contact people at that hour, but it may take 10 attempts before you reach someone.
Explorer8939
08-22-24, 02:41
Only M1 now, M2 is closed to visitors.Thanks, I have sent a reservation request.
Since this is my first visit to Medellin, the idea is to lower my risks. Even though I am fluent in Spanish.
Not true in my case. I went on Spirit two of the times that I did not fill it out and nobody anywhere asked me for anything.I guess I should clarify that. I meant that every single time that I have flown spirit from my airport they have required me to show them the MIG form. Now that doesn't mean that Spirit employees are consistent in other airports in requiring the MIG form or that other airlines are requiring the mig form before allowing you to board But clearly some airlines at certain airports are requiring the form prior to boarding. Because it doesn't take that long to fill out that form at home, I just fill it out so I don't run into problems. This is the flight to Medellin, not the flight to go back home.
I'm definitely interested to join on one of these, but just curious about the safety. I also saw these parties on one of the girls Instagram. Looks like a good time.
There was a report earlier this year or last year, I think. I don't remember when (somebody can link that report). It was a party like this somewhere in Guatape, but ended up being raided by Colombian authorities because there was drugs involved and underage girls. Dude who organized it was all over the news. Some of you probably saw the report about this.
Your PM box is full btwYou need to get a local to go with you. The ones I know are not for sex. There are bunk beds that one can rest. I ran the numbers and these parties are big business. They pay police so they are left alone without interference. It can last for days. The one you read about is not one of those.
It is definitely required with United Airlines and Spirit when departing from Newark. I was asked to confirm the hotel I was staying at by Medellin immigration. They looked it up when I handed my passport. Honestly! What is the big deal filing out the form? It can't hurt and avoids delaying your entry.
I guess I should clarify that. I meant that every single time that I have flown spirit from my airport they have required me to show them the MIG form. Now that doesn't mean that Spirit employees are consistent in other airports in requiring the MIG form or that other airlines are requiring the mig form before allowing you to board But clearly some airlines at certain airports are requiring the form prior to boarding. Because it doesn't take that long to fill out that form at home, I just fill it out so I don't run into problems. This is the flight to Medellin, not the flight to go back home..
A new video about Medellin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3exT9GyN3w
Also an idiot who was deported.
https://www.minuto30.com/pasajero-extranjero-provoco-panico-en-vuelo-de-bogota-cartagena/1624701/
Also an idiot who was deported.
https://www.minuto30.com/pasajero-extranjero-provoco-panico-en-vuelo-de-bogota-cartagena/1624701/Probably Miamiboy or some other entitled Poblado motherfucker LOL.
Greetings all,
I am planning my return to Medellin (haven't been back in 5 years) with all the problems with scopping and underage girls I am asking for recomendations on airbnb's that 1. - Allow girls in and 2. - have security that checks the girls coming in and out.
Can you guys share some apartments? You can send me a private message if you don't want to share your diamond in the rough.
Thanks in adavance.
Never been to Columbia and odds are this will be my only shot to monger here. I'm hoping to find a quickie during my stay, but really the only sure chance I'll have to monger is next Sunday at 8 am At their incall. I've read the last 100 pages (you guys really love to have pissing contests) and this wasn't discussed, and the various houses do not open up that early. Has anyone done this? I've done 10 am In Tijuana (the only south of US I've mongered) and it was a tough chore and 50-50 chance of failure the times I've tried. It seems the entire city is sleeping at 8 am.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'm not looking for a 10 model, but I do like GFE, sin condom if possible but I'll take what I can get I guess. Is it worth it to offer a fat propina to seal the deal? I'll be in the Laurels area by the university, so I'm looking at the online catadorcolombia site for reviews and I am finding girls saying they are available 24 hours but is that mere advertising? Any help would be appreciated.This is damn near impossible, particularly on a Sunday, for a '10', GFE, and sin condom. Perhaps you pay the girl for alt the night before, send her to the hotel, and hope she's still there in the morning? LOL.
Anyone have any suggestions? When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you'll be successful.
I have been chatting with guys while I am here in Medellin and one thing that I observe is that every guy is different and has a different approach and likes different types of girls. It is good that we are not all doing the same thing and chasing the same girls. Everyone has their own way and everyone is happy with their approach. I don't try to change anyone or start calling them simps or suckers. It's their money and they can spend it anyway they want. It doesn't affect me very much. In my humble opinion, you should do what you want to do and see the girls that you want to see and don't worry about what a bunch of anonymous strangers think.
Now some guys complain about the food here but I have been enjoying the food here. There are a lot of good places to eat and there is food from around the world. Some people complain about the beef and there is some merit to that. The other meats are fine. Tacos are always a good bet.
So far it has been a good trip and I haven't been drugged or robbed yet but there is still plenty of time. I try to be aware of my surrounds and I don't drink with the girls.
As for the girls, there are plenty of young attractive girls for everyone. No shortage of young attractive girls here. Casas, streetwalkers, strip club girls, online prepagos, Seeking girls and Facebook girls are the various options. Do what fits your style and you will be fine. As in the past posts, I like to stick with the Facebook girls and they have treated me well. My opinion is ask for what you want and negotiate the price beforehand so there are no surprises.
Probably Miamiboy or some other entitled Poblado motherfucker LOL.No, dumbass, I'm still in Colombia.
Can't afford Poblado, you brokie? Enjoy your little shack in Aranjuez.
Mr Enternational
08-25-24, 00:20
Now some guys complain about the food here but I have been enjoying the food here. There are a lot of good places to eat and there is food from around the world. Some people complain about the beef and there is some merit to that.Tell them to order the imported. It is on the menu for a reason. Colombia is not known for quality beef as are USA, Argentina, and Japan. It is a learning experience getting to know your destination and do not expect things to be like back home.
https://us.yahoo.com/news/york-man-died-while-solo-120002510.html
Explorer8939
08-26-24, 05:07
It is definitely required with United Airlines and Spirit when departing from Newark. I was asked to confirm the hotel I was staying at by Medellin immigration. They looked it up when I handed my passport. Honestly! What is the big deal filing out the form? It can't hurt and avoids delaying your entry.Is it necessary to print out the MIG form, or can I just show it on my phone?
https://us.yahoo.com/news/york-man-died-while-solo-120002510.htmlYou can be the most savvy forum vet and it will not change anything. Colombia is a dangerous place, period. Even for locals.
I still go there because I have high risk tolerance but I am under no illusion that bad things can happen to me despite all the precautions I take.
You can be the most savvy forum vet and it will not change anything. Colombia is a dangerous place, period. Even for locals.
I still go there because I have high risk tolerance but I am under no illusion that bad things can happen to me despite all the precautions I take.It is true that Colombia is a dangerous place, and you have to take precautions. I don't think that anyone would disagree with that. At the same time, Medellin has gotten more and more popular with tourists over the past few years and so more and more people are visiting. More visitors generally means the number of crimes committed against tourists will generally go up if the percentage is the same. Also I think that there are more and new newbies visiting and they are usually easy prey for criminals.
There have been numerous posts here about how to be more careful in Colombia and I am not going to repeat them. Just read the past posts and you can decrease the odds of bad things happening to you.
I have been here a few times but I still am not letting my guard down or thinking that I am immune from crime.
Is it necessary to print out the MIG form, or can I just show it on my phone?You can just show it on your phone. Take a screen shot of it and you will be able to pull it up faster if the internet for some reason is slow on getting your email.
TheDerilious
08-26-24, 18:50
Is it necessary to print out the MIG form, or can I just show it on my phone?You can show it on your phone. I have always had to show the form when leaving from the US but the phone has always been acceptable. They are just looking for the ID number on the phone.
John Gault
08-26-24, 19:25
Is it necessary to print out the MIG form, or can I just show it on my phone?I do both as I don't even want the remote chance of even slight problems when going to Colombia. As far as the return going back to the home country I really don't think anyone cares about it but I do it anyway on my down time.
DiscoverFL
08-26-24, 20:55
Thanks, I have sent a reservation request.
Since this is my first visit to Medellin, the idea is to lower my risks. Even though I am fluent in Spanish.You are doing it right. After that first visit you can get your bearings, a bunch of girl's WhatsApp numbers, and be prepared for subsequent visits on your own.
Is it necessary to print out the MIG form, or can I just show it on my phone?The most complaints is about not able to complete the form. If that happens, capture the screen to show it to whoever ask for it.
I have not been asked for it in the last 6 months but I didn't come from US.
Tell them to order the imported. It is on the menu for a reason. Colombia is not known for quality beef as are USA, Argentina, and Japan. It is a learning experience getting to know your destination and do not expect things to be like back home.I am not sure he is talking about steak in general. I think if the place has imported beef, the local ones probably won't be too bad assume it is in El Poblado or Laureles. There are dry-aged steak in the restaurant and supermarket. They also have marinated steak that is quite tender too.
I found out picanha is quite common in the butcher shop a few weeks ago. It was quite good. Last weekend I found a bbq place that was good. I was surprised to find out that it was part of a butcher shop next door. This setup is not common here.
JohnnieCash
08-28-24, 12:26
I am not sure he is talking about steak in general. I think if the place has imported beef, the local ones probably won't be too bad assume it is in El Poblado or Laureles. There are dry-aged steak in the restaurant and supermarket. They also have marinated steak that is quite tender too.
I found out picanha is quite common in the butcher shop a few weeks ago. It was quite good..I like solomo redondo cut from butcher shop, tender and can be eaten raw / blue (though I usually add a lot couple spoons of fat on top of it, too lean). Most of the local butchers do not sell my fav ribeye cut for some reason.
Most of the picanha cuts I encountered here (called punta de anca) were too though for my taste (but I like my stakes 1 inch thick and blue, so marinated or aged might be different). Bucher can slice it thin if asked though ('mariposa' I believe).
Aged steaks give me the shits here more often than not for some reason (both ones from jumbo / carulla as well as from the more expensive stake house I got for about 100 mil, though it tasted good.).
Most of the beef is grass fed here afiak which makes for a tougher steaks.
Last weekend I found a bbq place that was good. I was surprised to find out that it was part of a butcher shop next door.Where was that pray tell.
Besides the casas and cheap streetwalkers, El Centro is an interesting place to visit on your trip. It has a different feel than Poblado or Laureles. In the daytime, there are a lot of people walking around and I don't think it is unsafe to visit in the daytime. The locals like to go shopping here and there are plenty of dollar type stores here. There are a few 1000 peso stores or 25 cent stores and even a 750 peso store or 18 cent store. I did buy some key chains for 18 cents and you can pick up cheap household supplies here. Don't expect high quality but it is the typical junk you find at dollar stores back home. There are also plenty of barber shops for $4 to $5 but don't expect them to speak English.
There is also plenty of places to eat for a reasonable price.
You can combine visiting El Centro with trying to use the Metro if you haven't done so. I always find it fun to try to use public transportation in a city that I am visiting. Go on the internet, look at the map and figure out where the Metro station is and where to get off and you are good to go. It is about 80 cents per ride.
And yes, you can also combine your visit to El Centro with a visit to those casas everyone talks about or those streetwalkers for 50 mil or so.
Cheap shopping, cheap food and cheap chicas. That is a good combination.
YounGun3393
08-28-24, 22:51
Hello I will be there in about a month. Anyone have good references for teeth whitening locations and / or feedback from when they went?
They offer it here in US but wondering how much better it's in MDE. Feel free to PM me.
FlagRunner77
08-29-24, 04:03
I have an unexpected window for a trip in a few weeks. I think I've almost decided on Havana, but Medellin keeps nagging at me. I haven't been yet, but put off a trip recently due to the high number of gringo deaths at the time (I'm an obvious gringo with very little spanish).
I'd planned Hotel M, but upon reaching out to them, even just a few weeks away, pretty much every room appears to be available. I don't want to be the only guest in the hotel! Are ladies still present on at the bar? Is there some Hotel M controversy I've missed that mean no-one goes there anymore?
For my first Medellin trip, I wanted to play it safe.
ElSexoChino7
08-29-24, 07:07
I've always wondered if the girls / females has their own website similar to this where they review 'guys / mongers' or maybe talk shit about us, so they can give warning to other girls.
In the US, there is a website where the girls review escort client guys / sugar daddies. I just don't remember the website name, but I saw it before. The girls even post your pics on the platform and they will comment on you if they know you.
Maybe they also have one in Colombia.?
I really don't worry about girls talking about me, as I always treat them nice like how I want to be treated. So please be nice to them.
Mr Enternational
08-29-24, 09:21
I've always wondered if the girls / females has their own website similar to this where they review 'guys / mongers' or maybe talk shit about us, so they can give warning to other girls.Why would you even care. You think too much of yourself if you believe some hooker is going to take her precious time to analyze and write about some trick after she has his money. Is there a website where you go to write about your customers after they have left your job?
I like solomo redondo cut from butcher shop, tender and can be eaten raw / blue (though I usually add a lot couple spoons of fat on top of it, too lean). Most of the local butchers do not sell my fav ribeye cut for some reason.
Most of the picanha cuts I encountered here (called punta de anca) were too though for my taste (but I like my stakes 1 inch thick and blue, so marinated or aged might be different). Bucher can slice it thin if asked though ('mariposa' I believe).
Aged steaks give me the shits here more often than not for some reason (both ones from jumbo / carulla as well as from the more expensive stake house I got for about 100 mil, though it tasted good.).
Most of the beef is grass fed here afiak which makes for a tougher steaks.
I also prefer the Solomo or Solomito as they call it at my local carniceria. Whenever I am in Medellin I will go down and order 20 mil of solomito and cook it in my crock pot on low along with some onions and potatos from the fruteria shop. It always comes out tender and full of flavor. I then make up my own chimichurri salsa to go with it. It is out absolutely delicious everytime and for like 22 mil or $5. 50 usd for a complete dinner, sourced from local ingredients, you just can't go wrong.
-Gabacho.
Last weekend I found a bbq place that was good. I was surprised to find out that it was part of a butcher shop next door. This setup is not common here.Yes, please do tell us Nounce.
Another good option for good cuts of beef is ternera a la llanera. The best I ever had was at a restaurant of which I can't remember the name in Melgar, Tolima (South of Bogota) and the 2nd best was at a restaurant in Villavicencio called Mi Llanerita Tradicional:
https://linktr.ee/millaneritatradiciona
There are some of these llanera meat restaurants in and around Medellin as well. The one I used to frequent in Centro is called El Llanerito.
https://elllanerito.com.co/
I believe they also have locations in La Estrella and in Laureles.
I've always wondered if the girls / females has their own website similar to this where they review 'guys / mongers' or maybe talk shit about us, so they can give warning to other girls.
In the US, there is a website where the girls review escort client guys / sugar daddies. I just don't remember the website name, but I saw it before. The girls even post your pics on the platform and they will comment on you if they know you.
Maybe they also have one in Colombia.?
I really don't worry about girls talking about me, as I always treat them nice like how I want to be treated. So please be nice to them.There is no such website as far as I know. Instead, girls just chat amongst themselves about their clients and guys to avoid if they have a bad experience. That is my guess. I do know that girls like to share the wealth and if there is a good client, they will recommend their girlfriends to you.
JohnnieCash
08-29-24, 15:59
I also prefer the Solomo or Solomito as they call it at my local carniceria. Whenever I am in Medellin I will go down and order 20 mil of solomito and cook it in my crock pot on low along with some onions and potatos from the fruteria shop. It always comes out tender and full of flavor. I then make up my own chimichurri salsa to go with it. It is out absolutely delicious everytime and for like 22 mil or $5. 50 usd for a complete dinner, sourced from local ingredients, you just can't go wrong..Yeah I think solomito is the most tender naturally. There are at least two different solomos, that I know of, solomo redondo and solomo extranjero, I like the rodondo most.
Love my crockpots. Slow-cooking can make the naturally tougher cuts to be super tender and tasty (well depends how may hours). I usually do tabla, pecho (brisket) and ribs in mine. Morrillo and / or tres telas are great for making a stew in crockpot as well, supper fatty and tasty.
There are some of these llanera meat restaurants in and around Medellin as well.Oh yeah I like those too. There is also one in the food court in centro commercial Mayorca called Sabor Llanero.
Usually there are also one or two 'parrilla' places in malls, though often nothing special taste wise, overcooked and overpriced but I do partake sometimes when out and about.
Too bad nobody seem to fry in tallow or lard here, not a fan of frying in seed oils. French fries deep-fried in tallow are great, as is chicken.
There is no such website as far as I know. Instead, girls just chat amongst themselves about their clients and guys to avoid if they have a bad experience. That is my guess. I do know that girls like to share the wealth and if there is a good client, they will recommend their girlfriends to you.MoonShot is right. There isn't a website per se, but there is a WhatsApp chain (probably several) with a huge number of girls sharing info about clients. They mostly report bad experiences rather than good ones. The good experiences are shared among friends and not with the WA chain.
I was shown some posts on a chain by a girl I've known and seen for several years.
AmorPorFavor
08-29-24, 23:47
I've always wondered if the girls / females has their own website similar to this where they review 'guys / mongers' or maybe talk shit about us, so they can give warning to other girls.
In the US, there is a website where the girls review escort client guys / sugar daddies. I just don't remember the website name, but I saw it before. The girls even post your pics on the platform and they will comment on you if they know you.
Maybe they also have one in Colombia.?
I really don't worry about girls talking about me, as I always treat them nice like how I want to be treated. So please be nice to them.What they have are wpp and telegram chat groups where they talk about us. Who is a good client and who is bad one. I have heard this from a girl I see a lot and 2 experienced mongers in Colombia. I would bet that Mr E is on the shit list. And I always treat them nice too and they always want to come back for more.
I'd planned Hotel M, but upon reaching out to them, even just a few weeks away, pretty much every room appears to be available. I don't want to be the only guest in the hotel! Are ladies still present on at the bar? Is there some Hotel M controversy I've missed that mean no-one goes there anymore?
I was there a few months ago. The bathroom towels were all shreds / rags. The first room I looked at, the window shade fell down when I tried to check the one window and see if there was a view. The second room, which I took, the safe did not work despite 3 different people trying to reset it. And the music was blasting from down below in the bar until 1 am, I could not sleep! Try to get a upper floor room if you stay there and demand towels that are not rags.
Very poor maintenance yet they want Gringo prices. And the furniture around the pool area is soiled and out dated. Slum lord quality. Ghetto style. Yet they want top dollar.
I have an unexpected window for a trip in a few weeks. I think I've almost decided on Havana, but Medellin keeps nagging at me. I haven't been yet, but put off a trip recently due to the high number of gringo deaths at the time (I'm an obvious gringo with very little spanish).
I'd planned Hotel M, but upon reaching out to them, even just a few weeks away, pretty much every room appears to be available. I don't want to be the only guest in the hotel! Are ladies still present on at the bar? Is there some Hotel M controversy I've missed that mean no-one goes there anymore?
For my first Medellin trip, I wanted to play it safe.The end is probably near for Hotel M. They are still open & there is chica action in the bar after 10 pm most nights. As for daytime, no unescorted girls can come by & hang out hoping to catch a customer so things are much quieter in the daytime, much less fun. You still get breakfast included, security is good & is a quick walk to Ave. Poblado with lots of shopping & restaurants.
Yeah I think solomito is the most tender naturally.This is probably the more expensive cut available from the butcher. I also see them on the menu in regular restaurant as steak. I think the black steak from El Correo is solomito, and oddly it is the least expensive item on their menu.
You will come across a butcher shop with restaurant if you walk down Cr 47 A in Sabaneta. I only know how to get there on foot, and don't know the name but you are unlikely to miss it. The reverse is Madurando near Provenza. It is a steak house that serves dry-aged steak and you can buy it to cook at home. Surfer mentioned it a few times. The other one is Biftek in Laureles. It is kind of new and I never bough meat from here yet. They prepare the steak using a barrel grill.
Based on my observation, there are 3 types of meat places here. Steak house that most of us are familiar with, llanera which I think is a style that meat is cooked vertically thru indirect heat. The 3rd kind is the ones that is cooked on a griddle that is common seen on the street. This meat quality is the worst and least expensive.
My goodness I've been reading complaints about this place for a good 15 years now. At one time there was a section of this website dedicated to it. Maybe it's still here. I feel like this post from Humble Hal is the definitive information anyone would need to decide how important it is and how much they are willing to pay to hang around other gringos.
I was there a few months ago. The bathroom towels were all shreds / rags. The first room I looked at, the window shade fell down when I tried to check the one window and see if there was a view. The second room, which I took, the safe did not work despite 3 different people trying to reset it. And the music was blasting from down below in the bar until 1 am, I could not sleep! Try to get a upper floor room if you stay there and demand towels that are not rags.
Very poor maintenance yet they want Gringo prices. And the furniture around the pool area is soiled and out dated. Slum lord quality. Ghetto style. Yet they want top dollar.
Medclubber
08-30-24, 23:04
And yes, you can also combine your visit to El Centro with a visit to those casas everyone talks about or those streetwalkers for 50 mil or so.
Cheap shopping, cheap food and cheap chicas. That is a good combination.And it's a shit hole LOL. I frikking hate it there for one. I know girls from barrios like Manrique who also hate to go to El Centro and only visit when they absolutely have to. A girl I know tells me she always walks quickly, aware of her surrounding all the time, always feeling like somebody might try to rob her. If you ask a local, they all know somebody who at least got robbed in El Centro or worse. Most of the times it actually even happened to themselves. Sure, it can happen anywhere in Medellin, el Poblado isn't 100% safe neither but El Centro obviously is way higher risk, even during the day. So definitely not a place to recommend to newbies IMHO.
DragonLink
08-31-24, 01:25
And it's a shit hole LOL. I frikking hate it there for one. I know girls from barrios like Manrique who also hate to go to El Centro and only visit when they absolutely have to. A girl I know tells me she always walks quickly, aware of her surrounding all the time, always feeling like somebody might try to rob her. If you ask a local, they all know somebody who at least got robbed in El Centro or worse. Most of the times it actually even happened to themselves. Sure, it can happen anywhere in Medellin, el Poblado isn't 100% safe neither but El Centro obviously is way higher risk, even during the day. So definitely not a place to recommend to newbies IMHO.I was just there last month during the day, didn't feel unsafe at all. Found a MILF street girl, spent 30 minutes fucking her for 50 k, spent about 30 minutes looking at the art in the Botero refractory museum, then fucked another younger street girl before heading back to the hotel. As long as you stick to that main plaza and the streets nearby where all the pros are, I think you're fine during the day. Too crowded to get mugged out in the daylight like that (but just in case keep your phone and wallet in your front pocket, ie use common sense).
I was there last night early evening. Everything seems to be back to normal. Girls out in force. There were a number of young pretty girls hanging around along with the usual number of unattractive girls standing around. The bars and restaurants were busy and everyone sees to be having a good time.
I did not sense any "gringo go home" vibe at all.
Not a website, but some girls do share info on WhatsApp on their bad experiences with guys. This information includes whether the client was weird, smelled, cheap or just plain ugly.
I don't blame these girls. When they go out on a call they are taking a chance. Lots of creeps looking for sex because they can never get laid in the USA or wherever they are from.
Why would you even care. You think too much of yourself if you believe some hooker is going to take her precious time to analyze and write about some trick after she has his money. Is there a website where you go to write about your customers after they have left your job?
This is damn near impossible, particularly on a Sunday, for a '10', GFE, and sin condom. Perhaps you pay the girl for alt the night before, send her to the hotel, and hope she's still there in the morning? LOL.I use Sunday as a travel day to another area or just watch football. It's hard to find dimes on a Sunday. I get no replies.
I always invite the girl back to my place and I've never had an issue. But I'm always in a place with security and I never leave them alone unless it's for a short time like going to the restroom. I haven't had any real experiences with girls in Medellin getting handsy with my stuff. Hell, I usually leave a bunch of snacks out and the ladies usually ask me before eating anything. If you're not wasted beyond recognition and generally aware of things, I feel that most of the girls understand not to show their barrio side (maybe until they get to know you).
I've never brought two girls at once in Medellin so I can't vouch for that scenario.I bring them back to my apartment in envigado. I have no security, I chat with the girls a lot before we leave though.
My God, this is a nightmare scenario. I will say that I meet quite a few Israelis around town. I don't know that any of them are involved in this sort of stuff.I love that place and what you got is my favorite.
I think you meant to quote reply to a different post. I will say that I find Crepes and Waffles to be an underwhelming watered down version of American casual dining chains like Cheesecake Factory and Chilis. Its competitive advantages here in Colombia are relatively low cost, predictability, and reliable table service.
I love that place and what you got is my favorite.
I use Sunday as a travel day to another area or just watch football. It's hard to find dimes on a Sunday. I get no replies.Sunday is the slowest day for chicas. They have been partying late Saturday night and they want to relax and spend time with family. If you have to pick a day to take a break, Sunday is the best day. Now that the NFL football season will be starting, plenty of games to watch on Sundays. You can still find girls on Sunday but the numbers will be much lower.
Besides the casas and cheap streetwalkers, El Centro is an interesting place to visit on your trip. It has a different feel than Poblado or Laureles. In the daytime, there are a lot of people walking around and I don't think it is unsafe to visit in the daytime. Agreed, many parts of centro are perfectly safe to visit. The chance you get mugged there during daytime is lower than in El Poblado (debate me on this if you wish). Centro is packed with people on weekdays, there might be pick pockets, but violent attacks don't happen in centro when streets are packed with everyday people. I am more worried when I a walking down a quiet st in Poblado because thugs can get off their motos and rob me at ay time.
LoveItHere69
09-01-24, 20:18
Agreed, many parts of centro are perfectly safe to visit. The chance you get mugged there during daytime is lower than in El Poblado (debate me on this if you wish). Centro is packed with people on weekdays, there might be pick pockets, but violent attacks don't happen in centro when streets are packed with everyday people.Hmm. About 2-2. 5 years ago around noon I was sitting on a bench and I hear a THUD. People started gathering in front of the hotel in front of "The Church" at Botero. A local either jumped or was thrown out of the 3rd floor but no screamor yelling on his way down. He was alive. Not sure if he was alive later that night. Have you read about the foreigners that oddly visit Medellin and within a day or two jump out their hotel window from a high level floor? Not the best example. I can do better.
About 2-2. 5 years ago 1:00 pm weekday on a sunny day. People everywhere. My pick of the day and I walk to the ST hotel on the side of "The Church" where the glass floor is. We get a window room and about 10 minutes later we hear screaming. We finish and look out the 3rd floor window. A local who was sitting on one of the two cement benchs was laying on the glass floor in a puddle of blood the size of a basketball. When we got down and outside we asked what happened. The guy was stabbed in the neck. No idea if he lived or not.
Same area in front of Hotel Calle Real on Christmas Day 2023 at 11:00 am I see a lady in her 40's arguing with some guy in his 40's for 10 minutes with a rock in her hand. Nothing happened but damn on Christmas Day.
Same cement bench with glass floor the Day after New Years 2023 around noon. I see a 25-30 year old local black want to-be trying to talk to every black guy that walks by. I leave and return 15 minutes later. That fool did something to piss off some local lady in her 40's. She took a broken bottle and sliced his arm and cut his shirt. Maybe needed a few stitches. The police were arresting him and putting him into their van.
Cucuta sunny day around 2:00 pm half a block from Mercedes Parque with people everywhere. I get jumped for my phone and top of my head bleeding. They got the phone before I got brain damage. Good news. Within 10 minutes I had my phone back. They ran. I followed. Police saw them running and knew they did something. I caught up with them and had a phone back one block away from where it was taken. I admit it. I F-ed up on that and was my fault.
During the pandemic I stayed in that ST hotel (Botero Real) in front of the glass floor before it became ST only hotel. Second floor window room for 2 months. Saw a lot. You guys have no idea.
What did I learn? Yelling means a fight or robbery. Screaming means there is blood or soon to be blood. You are never safe and NOBODY WILL GET INVOLVED TO HELP YOU!
Noise is a factor when selecting a place to stay. There are a number of hotels close to the action but that also means noise from the nightclubs can be a factor. Now if you are partying all night at the clubs then it is not a big deal. Like most of Latin America, the locals like their music at two volumes: loud and louder.
It is possible that some of the hotels have windows that block the noise but it is more likely that it is not the case.
Now when I was staying at the San Peter apartments, there was noise coming from that nightclub next door but it might also have been noise coming from the bar downstairs. Now I have been told that the rooms higher up are better but I was in the lower part with the noise. Last night I saw that the hamburger place now has tables outside and they had a DJ blasting music on the sidewalk with the speakers facing the building so that probably doesn't help with the noise issue.
It is just a factor to consider when choosing a place to stay. There are also a number of comments on Airbnbs about places that are noisy. If you are picking a place close to the action, you should research the noise issue unless you will be up late at night on your trip.
Agreed, many parts of centro are perfectly safe to visit. The chance you get mugged there during daytime is lower than in El Poblado (debate me on this if you wish). Centro is packed with people on weekdays, there might be pick pockets, but violent attacks don't happen in centro when streets are packed with everyday people. I am more worried when I a walking down a quiet st in Poblado because thugs can get off their motos and rob me at ay time.I live getting a limonada or a guarapo and sitting underneath the metro at parque berrio station just watching people go about their daily lives. There's a cute redhead that works in one of the shoe stores there under the metro that I always used to fancy.
If you use common sense Centro is perfectly safe during the day. I'm not saying there isn't danger but I'm saying you can easily avoid the danger by not being stupid (bringing attention to yourself by wearing flashy jewelry, having your Iphone out, or just acting stupid in general like the guys on the benches by the church).
Also centro is a great place to find bargains on many things, whether it be some fake Nike shoes or a new shower head (alot of cheap hotels don't have shower heads) or even wooden spoons for cooking, Centro has it all.
-Gabacho.
P.S.: I highly recommend the empanadas that come with a small cup of gaseosa for 2,000 pesos. It can be found right south of the San Antonio station also under the metro. They have the hottest freshest best ground beef empanadas and 2 different salsa aji one is spicy and one is sweet. Great place to try empanadas.
I'm planning my first Medellin trip for later this month, and appreciate the excellent information here. I am retired, late 60's, travelling solo, and my Spanish is decent (not fluent but more than enough to talk to a girl, book a date, and tell her what I want). I have pretty extensive experience in the US, have made several trips to Cartagena, and just got back from a tour of Vienna, Prague, and Berlin; to the point that I have plenty of experience in a variety of formats, from street pick-ups to long-term escort dates. In Cartagena I stayed in Bocagrande, and I am comfortable with the quality level of the typical tourist hotels there.
I appreciated the discussion of different personal styles and preferences, and the need to decide what you like and the best approach for you. I have two conflicting desires. I enjoy female company, and I don't want to spend my time eating and spending my day alone in between a couple of hour or half hour sessions every day. I would be very happy meeting a nice girl, spending a few days with her, and being temporarily monogamous. On the other hand, in my recent European tour I found that I like the idea of having a lot of girls who are all immediately available, like the laufhauses and FKKs in Europe.
Open to suggestions, but here is the plan:
Stay south in the Poblado area. I appreciate Nomars777's suggestions of Nakua and Selis, both of which look like they are very comfortable for spending some time with a beautiful woman. Maybe a bit pricier than necessary, but I want to be sure there are no guest issues. I always make sure the reservation is for two, and tell them the second guest will be arriving later. The first guest has always been free.
I feel like I am too old to be booking dates on FB or SA, but I have had good results with mileroticos or other ad sites, using local reviews to ensure the ads are legit. Doncolombia is a good resource for local reviews. I will try to make sure I have half a dozen to a dozen numbers in whatsapp before the trip. I may or may not pre-schedule a date or two.
More likely I will head to Lleras my first night and look for an overnight. I don't mind the hunt and it looks like a fun area to hang out and have a drink with or without company. I understand things start late, so also an option (as noted) to collect whatsapp numbers and schedule something for the next day.
I am interested in "casa" recommendations if I decide to go that way. I have seen Zandaly mentioned, but it isn't convenient to Poblado and it doesn't look attractive from the exterior pics I can find (to be kind). Mansion doesn't look much better, but at least it has a clear sign, and it is closer to Poblado. If there are any other casas with a decent number of chicas where I can plan on a sure thing I would appreciate the help. I am not demanding, but I need a clean room with a decent bed, and a place where I can at least find the sign. I'm not price-shopping; as I said, I like a large selection of readily available ladies.
I will probably do some touring in centro, and may accidentally pick up a chica, but I don't really see the advantage of centro versus Lleras. If there are nearby casas worth visiting, please feel free to name them.
It seems like Medellin is a pretty easy city to have a good time if you show common sense, stay in the areas you know, and don't get shit-faced or obnoxious. Any thoughts or ideas for other entertainment outlets are welcome. When I have firm dates I will post and offer to buy drinks for any locals who want to get together. J1 M.
......... Saw a lot. You guys have no idea.
What did I learn? Yelling means a fight or robbery. Screaming means there is blood or soon to be blood. You are never safe and NOBODY WILL GET INVOLVED TO HELP YOU!You've seen so much. In all my years of travel to Colombia and El Centro Medellin in particular I've seen only one violent attack. It was by a junky on a person and that person was me, for refusing to give. The junky ran off without me in hot pursuit of course. The lesson learnt was never allow someone on the street to get too close to you.
I live getting a limonada or a guarapo and sitting underneath the metro at parque berrio station just watching people go about their daily lives. There's a cute redhead that works in one of the shoe stores there under the metro that I always used to fancy.
If you use common sense Centro is perfectly safe during the day. I'm not saying there isn't danger but I'm saying you can easily avoid the danger by not being stupid (bringing attention to yourself by wearing flashy jewelry, having your Iphone out, or just acting stupid in general like the guys on the benches by the church).
Also centro is a great place to find bargains on many things, whether it be some fake Nike shoes or a new shower head (alot of cheap hotels don't have shower heads) or even wooden spoons for cooking, Centro has it all..I agree that El Centro is relatively safe in the daytime. There is a ton of people walking around and eating and shopping. There are policemen roaming around. If you stuck to the crowded streets and don't wander around on isolated streets, you should be fine. As Gabacho stated, don't act stupid and make yourself a target. El Centro is a good place to visit while you are here.
LoveItHere69
09-02-24, 17:51
I agree that El Centro is relatively safe in the daytime. There is a ton of people walking around and eating and shopping. There are policemen roaming around. If you stuck to the crowded streets and don't wander around on isolated streets, you should be fine. As Gabacho stated, don't act stupid and make yourself a target. El Centro is a good place to visit while you are here.It is relatively safe in the daytime compared to night. Yes, that part is true. But when compared to the Asian countries I go to it is much more dangerous. I lised just a few of things I have personally seen. I have spent more time in the Philippines 3 years, Thailand 3 months, Indonesia 5 months. All of my Asian travels I can only remember one thing in which a guy in Cebu Philiipines beat a guy and was kicking his head on a sunny day on a very busy street.
Funny thing about police there in Botero. Seen this countless times. You rarely see the police running when something is happening. They walk slowly giving the criminal time to run away.
Saw a girl fight once near the Botero museum in the afternoon but being a girl fight I did not pay attention. Boy was I wrong. That girl did not scratch or pull hair. She punched the other girl like a guy and messed her up. Police seperated them and let the winner go.
You fools have no idea.
You've seen so much. In all my years of travel to Colombia and El Centro Medellin in particular I've seen only one violent attack. It was by a junky on a person and that person was me, for refusing to give. The junky ran off without me in hot pursuit of course. The lesson learnt was never allow someone on the street to get too close to you.Here is one you can see almost every day and easiest to spot. Go to the Botero metro. There is a place in the center of the second floor that has donuts and stuff on one side and one that sells coffee slushy drinks and stuff on the other. Slowly walk around the center eatery area. Look for single guys and guys in pairs in their teens up to lower 30's just standing to the sides and front. I get my coffee slushy and sit near the entrance / front and watch them. They will not be in the back. They need to be near the front to get away and to spot police. Every 15 minutes or so they meet up and then separate again. They are looking for people to rob. I watch them and make eye contact so they know that I know what they are doing. There is no reason be there and no reason that two or three buddies are not together. Surprisingly, I have not seen them do anything. But they have approached people asking for money at times. Kinda of feeling them out as a target. If they were begging they would ask lots of people for money but they do not do that.
One night around 9:00 in front of D1 near the bars behind Vera Cruz church I saw a guy with blood all over his shirt and all over the ground. Put it all together it was about the size of a basketball. Not sure how he was still walking around. Someone hit him over the head with a beer bottle.
Many guys do not believe me. Ask some of your girls about some things they have seen or heard about in the last few months. Bet it is an eye opener.
Use Parque Berro as a divider, there will be more danger, the further you go toward north, toward the Prado station. To the south all the way past the San Anotonio station is the largest shopping area. It is safer than the north since there is little drugs and no prostitutes. You can find things that you can't find elsewhere. The small businesses also shop here so many business here are more like wholesaler. Some specialty stores also offer personal shopper that you will get a sale assigned to you while shopping. Basically it offers a more personalized shopping experience.
I am interested in "casa" recommendations if I decide to go that way. I have seen Zandaly mentioned, but it isn't convenient to Poblado and it doesn't look attractive from the exterior pics I can find (to be kind). Mansion doesn't look much better, but at least it has a clear sign, and it is closer to Poblado. If there are any other casas with a decent number of chicas where I can plan on a sure thing I would appreciate the help. I am not demanding, but I need a clean room with a decent bed, and a place where I can at least find the sign. I'm not price-shopping; as I said, I like a large selection of readily available ladies.
I will probably do some touring in centro, and may accidentally pick up a chica, but I don't really see the advantage of centro versus Lleras. If there are nearby casas worth visiting, please feel free to name them.
It seems like Medellin is a pretty easy city to have a good time if you show common sense, stay in the areas you know, and don't get shit-faced or obnoxious. Any thoughts or ideas for other entertainment outlets are welcome. When I have firm dates I will post and offer to buy drinks for any locals who want to get together. J1 M.Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.
It seems 100 USD or 400 mil is the standard opening price for most and some offered 250 directly. There is definitely a dual pricing going on. Just a few examples, one messaged me that we could leave at 12 for 250 when it was about 11, another one texted me right after we met to offer 250 to come to my place at 8 PM the next day before she goes to work in LLeras. We know some girls do that. So if you really want something fresh, get her the next day as the first customer and it maybe even cheaper. LOL. All you have to do is let her know you are not a tourist then some will come down even the same day. Keep in mind that these prices are offered to me without a real negotiation.
There are a couple of little people working. I saw a blonde one the first time a few weeks ago. The next time I saw one more with her so I think they are working.
More girls are trying to speak English but most of them are not conversational. The girls on average are on the older side compared to the age of FB girls that was mentioned here. I wonder why? Many are from Bello. I had a taxi driver who also tried to speak English to me to strike up a conversation.
I also met a couple of girls offered 30 minutes price for 200 and 250.
In some aspects, Lleras is becoming like El Centro.
It appeared the city is trying to make Plaza Botero to be more like Provanza. I saw there are a few girls dressed in more formal dress. Some have price to match as well if you want to take them back to your apartment.
There are just one snapshot from me. You need to take into account views from others as well.
CumberlandBlue
09-02-24, 18:53
This massage place offers extras: varua spa: CL 44 A #70-98, Laureles. Estadio, Medellin, Laureles, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
My last post asked about Sunday morning and as I expected it was not going to happen and since I am with an SO it was doubtful I'd get a go at all. Went here for a joint massaged. They asked if we want separate rooms and my SO said whatever so we went to different rooms, me far on down the hall so we could be discrete. There were 3 to 4 girls working. I was in love with this dark skinned girl but I think the senior woman gets to pick. All were young, under 25 and they all were cute. We got a 90 minute massage for about $210 k each. Lace was very clean and they offered showers.
They all wore nurse like outfits so I had no idea what was hiding under their clothes. Back work was great. Flipped and some light work and then her phone comes out with a menus of nude or nonnude sexual pleasure, so I think $100 k for nude happy ending. Cash or PayPal. Sure! The outfit came off and holy shit this chick had a banging body, a little tiny stomach but really just a curvy hot body, but massive see+ tits all natural. Opted for full sexo no beso, no DATY, CBJ, for 300 k. She let me FIV and finger banged her. I know that might be a lot but considering all things it was $80 all in and worth it considering my issues; they were giggling like a gaggle of hens as we left but my SO had no idea.
My SO was disappointed and didn't want to come back as it was supposed to be a sport massage and it was just a good normal massage.
I agree that El Centro is relatively safe in the daytime. There is a ton of people walking around and eating and shopping. There are policemen roaming around. If you stuck to the crowded streets and don't wander around on isolated streets, you should be fine. As Gabacho stated, don't act stupid and make yourself a target. El Centro is a good place to visit while you are here.Now I will add to this though that as Nounce mentioned, Prado is a different animal. I would not recommend any of you guys to go north of Hotel Nutibara. I've gone up there many times day and night to catch my bus back to my barrio but I have seen locals fall victim to snatch and grabs by Venezuelans, also lots of drug dealers out and about, lots of stolen stuff being sold there too (although I did get a nice suitcase there for 40 mil once). But I wouldn't recommend anyone without Spanish abilities and some previous experience to go north of hotel Nutibara all the way to like hospital station. That area in particular is very sketchy.
Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.Thank you! Definitely on the list. Looking at pics of Louton, Mansion, and Zandaly, I am fine spending the 400 K.
... but considering all things it was $80 all in and worth it considering my issues; they were giggling like a gaggle of hens as we left but my SO had no idea.
My SO was disappointed and didn't want to come back as it was supposed to be a sport massage and it was just a good normal massage.Are you sure it was just a good normal massage. Did you see the female menu? Maybe she is also telling her friends why the girls were all giggling when you left.
Seriously. You have more balls than I ever had when I was married. Thanks for the report!!
CumberlandBlue
09-03-24, 02:46
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LoveItHere69
09-03-24, 09:13
Now I will add to this though that as Nounce mentioned, Prado is a different animal. I would not recommend any of you guys to go north of Hotel Nutibara. But I wouldn't recommend anyone without Spanish abilities and some previous experience to go north of hotel Nutibara all the way to like hospital station. That area in particular is very sketchy.Funny. Most crime is committed against locals not foreigners because they are a much larger percentage of the population. How exactly is speaking Spanish going to help? Mostly it happens so quickly your Spanish means nothing. The criminals do not converse with their victims. Look at some of the snatch and grab youtube videos where they walk in with a gun into a resto in the middle of the day. I remember a girl tried to steal a wallet from an old man in front of the church across the street from Mercedes Parque with tons of people around in Cucucta. Luckily she failed. No conversation. Pretty sure he only spoke Spanish. I only see Spanish could help if there is a misunderstanding and the guy wants to fight you and you pay him off or something.
Someone please give me an example of Spanish being the saving grace of being mugged. Somehow you begged in Spanish or gave them a sob story and they walked away. Or better yet gave you money.
Someone please give me an example of Spanish being the saving grace of being mugged. Somehow you begged in Spanish or gave them a sob story and they walked away. Or better yet gave you money.Maybe it's less a case of Spanish saving your butt, than a case of English making you a target. But I can tell you jail is a lot easier to navigate if you speak Spanish. As is being in the emergency room with an incoherently drunk chica.
Funny. Most crime is committed against locals not foreigners because they are a much larger percentage of the population. How exactly is speaking Spanish going to help? Mostly it happens so quickly your Spanish means nothing. The criminals do not converse with their victims. Look at some of the snatch and grab youtube videos where they walk in with a gun into a resto in the middle of the day. I remember a girl tried to steal a wallet from an old man in front of the church across the street from Mercedes Parque with tons of people around in Cucucta. Luckily she failed. No conversation. Pretty sure he only spoke Spanish. I only see Spanish could help if there is a misunderstanding and the guy wants to fight you and you pay him off or something.
Someone please give me an example of Spanish being the saving grace of being mugged. Somehow you begged in Spanish or gave them a sob story and they walked away. Or better yet gave you money.Because you could tell him you don't have shit to steal. Soy pobre, no tengo nada. Shit like that. Keep a 5 mil in your front pocket pull that out and be like "esto es todo lo que tengo" maybe they'll believe you more than if you said it in English looking like a gringo.
TheDerilious
09-03-24, 15:27
Funny. Most crime is committed against locals not foreigners because they are a much larger percentage of the population. How exactly is speaking Spanish going to help? Mostly it happens so quickly your Spanish means nothing. The criminals do not converse with their victims. Look at some of the snatch and grab youtube videos where they walk in with a gun into a resto in the middle of the day. I remember a girl tried to steal a wallet from an old man in front of the church across the street from Mercedes Parque with tons of people around in Cucucta. Luckily she failed. No conversation. Pretty sure he only spoke Spanish. I only see Spanish could help if there is a misunderstanding and the guy wants to fight you and you pay him off or something.
Someone please give me an example of Spanish being the saving grace of being mugged. Somehow you begged in Spanish or gave them a sob story and they walked away. Or better yet gave you money.There is no panacea for avoiding getting robbed but there are ways to help reduce the chance. When you speak Spanish, you can ask simple directions from folks and they can tell you where not to go and which streets to avoid. Truthfully, it's more about how you "pass" in an environment. Foreigners, in non-tourist areas (where the police aren't present to generally protect them), are easier targets because they will be less likely to properly report their situation to the police. Knowing Spanish isn't really going to help a super pale, redhead gringo pass no matter their ability, but showing some level of expertise does dissuade them since there will be better targets. Being younger or more fit will help. When you speak Spanish, the thieves that are scoping you and following you will perceive you as slightly more capable than the English-only gringo who is wandering around like a chicken with their head cut off. It's standard advice for any country when you're a foreigner.
Thieves and criminals are not particularly brave and they are looking for least risk to their muggings. Give yourself the best chance to avoid it by stacking up negatives to taking a run at you. It's like the old adage of a lost sheep; Is a wolf going to go after the herd of sheep or pick off the one that is walking around aimlessly by themselves?
There is no panacea for avoiding getting robbed but there are ways to help reduce the chance. One can look at this another way. Based on what have been said, you would be more likely to engage with someone who try to talk to you because you understand the language. That can be dangerous, there is a reason some try to avoid talking to locals in El Centro who try to engage you in a conversation in English to get close to you. I now avoid standing by the curb waiting for traffic light to change. The reason is I read about a guy who was robbed by moto when he was waiting to cross the street to Poblado metro station. They just stopped and pointed a gun at you and didn't care about the crowd present.
The best defense is to know the area and do not need map. I have past thru this area day and night too. I don't speak Spanish but I know the streets very well by now and I don't have to stop to think where I should go.
Criminals don't think like you, otherwise they won't be criminals, especially we are not talking about US. There was a video of someone being executed in close range in front of the a popular club Dubai. This is not the only one. The club is on Calle 10 and is is now renamed to something else. There are videos that the girls are fighting with the police in Parque Lleras. Many criminals don't care about IDs, or evidence based all these videos floating around. Sometimes the safest area is where the criminals do their business and control the street.
The attached image is started by a post by someone leaving a concert and was robbed by a taxi because there was no Uber around. This type of incident is not the first time and is predicable.
Funny. Most crime is committed against locals not foreigners because they are a much larger percentage of the population. How exactly is speaking Spanish going to help? Mostly it happens so quickly your Spanish means nothing.The criminals do not converse with their victims. Look at some of the snatch and grab youtube videos where they walk in with a gun into a resto in the middle of the day.If someone has isolated you and has a gun pointed at you and says "Dame tu billetera" and you don't know WTF he is saying. You might just get shot and have him take your wallet. If you understand him and hand over your wallet you might just have a scare but live to talk about it.
So does Spanish help in that type of situation? I don't know but it sure can't hurt.
Mr Enternational
09-04-24, 16:54
If someone has isolated you and has a gun pointed at you and says "Dame tu billetera" and you don't know WTF he is saying. You might just get shot and have him take your wallet. If you understand him and hand over your wallet you might just have a scare but live to talk about it.
So does Spanish help in that type of situation? I don't know but it sure can't hurt.What if you are like me and speak Spanish but do not carry a wallet?
If someone has isolated you and has a gun pointed at you and says "Dame tu billetera" and you don't know WTF he is saying. You might just get shot and have him take your wallet. If you understand him and hand over your wallet you might just have a scare but live to talk about it.
So does Spanish help in that type of situation? I don't know but it sure can't hurt.That does not change the fact that you would be robbed regardless. I think that is his point.
LoveItHere69
09-04-24, 17:31
Simplified I give speaking Spanish has a 10% benefit. Many of you act like it decreases something happening to you by 50%. I disagree.
Seriously? If someone puts a gun in your face in any country you know what they want: everything of value that you have. No language requirements needed.
What if you are like me and speak Spanish but do not carry a wallet?I would quickly say "No tengo billetera pero te dare mi effectivo. " The idea being you want to survive the encounter.
That does not change the fact that you would be robbed regardless. I think that is his point.You're getting robbed, fine, the question is are you going to live to tell about it. Speaking Spanish may not alter the reality that you are getting robbed but it may help you avoid being fitted for a casket.
There is no panacea for avoiding getting robbed but there are ways to help reduce the chance.
Rule #1. Stay home with your Mommy and play with yourself while looking at internet pornographie.
Rule #2. When you do get robbed, read rule #1.
Of course we are not stupid. Common sense is important. No flashy jewelry, no walking around by yourself, especially in bad neighborhood. Stay away from prostitutes who are thieves or may drug you. Watch your drinks at all times, and make sure you see the bartender open the beer bottle in front of you. Stay away from 3 d world countries. However if you want sex with an international woman, you have to engage in higher risk.
I was stupid and married a Colombian young woman. This was high risk. She got pregnant with a Colombian guy in the first year, before she got her visa, and I cancelled the application and got an annulment. Lost 40 K on buying 2 taxis that were put in her name. This was worse than having my wallet stolen.
In Costa Rica, near the Hotel Del Rey I had 3 young women reach into my front pockets and pull my Pesos out, onto the sidewalk. I quickly grabbed my pesos before they got them and ran away, nothing lost but a near loss.
I have had prositues in the. Are. Go thru my pockets but find nothing, I pushed her out the door and locked it.
Have had other experiences in a "safe" country. Had a 3 some with 2 girls who took my money before doing the deed. Had a seeking girl rip me off $260.
Could have been worse, I have not lost during my divorces, had pre-nuptial agreements both times. Am happier now than being married. Life is Good!
Simplified I give speaking Spanish has a 10% benefit. Many of you act like it decreases something happening to you by 50%. I disagree.
Seriously? If someone puts a gun in your face in any country you know what they want: everything of value that you have. No language requirements needed.Coming from the guy who didn't know how to ask for a room with AC at the Mar Hotel in Cucuta.
In Costa Rica, near the Hotel Del Rey I had 3 young women reach into my front pockets and pull my Pesos out, onto the sidewalk. I quickly grabbed my pesos before they got them and ran away, nothing lost but a near loss.Why did you have pesos in Costa Rica? You couldn't buy anything with them. Maybe the women wanted a souvenir from whatever country issued the pesos.
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