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LoveItHere69
09-05-24, 15:58
Coming from the guy who didn't know how to ask for a room with AC at the Mar Hotel in Cucuta.https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g676525-d4208500-Reviews-Hotel_Mary-Cucuta_Norte_de_Santander_Department.html

2015 review they have A / C.

2019 review they have no A / C.

My comment 2022 they have no A / C.

They are no longer listed on the popular hotel websites.

Gabacho
09-05-24, 18:11
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g676525-d4208500-Reviews-Hotel_Mary-Cucuta_Norte_de_Santander_Department.html

2015 review they have A / C.

2019 review they have no A / C.

My comment 2022 they have no A / C.

They are no longer listed on the popular hotel websites.I stayed there as recently as November 2022 and they have rooms with AC and cheaper rooms with just fans. I stayed in room 216 specifically which has AC. You just couldn't comprehend that they told you that the rooms with AC were occupied that day when you went. Maybe a little Spanish would have helped.

MoonShot
09-06-24, 22:12
In the past two weeks, I have personally meet 5 fellow mongers, 4 of them members of ISG, and so far, all of them are having successful trips in Medellin. We all do different things but no one is having a bad trip and most of the other guys have already gone home without any issues. Not all of their girls have been great but overall the girls have been good according to the guys.

Most of the guys I met were seeing girls on Facebook but some were also meeting street girls on Park Llerras or online prepago girls. No one was complaining about prices and they paid what they wanted to pay. We shared pictures of our girls and the girls looked attractive to me.

Just telling you what guys on the ground are telling me. Guys are happy on the ground. No one complaining about what other guys are doing or paying. We are all just here trying to have a good time.

HumbleHal
09-06-24, 23:13
Why did you have pesos in Costa Rica? You couldn't buy anything with them. Maybe the women wanted a souvenir from whatever country issued the pesos.Your right, it was Colones? Or some other name for the money. I have not been there for awhile. The Del Rey still open?

Nounce
09-07-24, 16:51
Me: I took her to barrio to buy veggies. I picked her up and we went shopping together. She choose what she wanted then picked out the bills I had in my hand to give to the masked seller who was holding a large stack of cash, and a bag. We went to my place afterwards. It's cheaper efficient, and she is happy. Why not? haha.

You: ?

Balboa
09-07-24, 19:23
Just telling you what guys on the ground are telling me. Guys are happy on the ground. No one complaining about what other guys are doing or paying. We are all just here trying to have a good time.Back in Medellin as well, great to be back!

Seems to be more tranquilo actually.

Maybe the bad press lately has steered the hoards to other destination.

Hopefully anyway, LOL.

Hit Parque Lleras last night, still gringo crowded there of course, however, I was surprised of the decreased presence of police.

Still police patrols just not in full force, checking people as they enter the park as before, etc.

I'm a Plaza Botero aficionado LOL.

I really don't see much of a difference in Parque Lleras girls vs Botero girls.

Maybe a few select babes, but the majority are of similar quality.

Of course Lleras has the much nicer, safer, party ambiance.

And man did I meet the hottest, cool mofo, new arrival Venezolana on the Botero yesterday.

Hooking up in a bit to spend a day together.

Good to be back.

WaltoDerri
09-08-24, 02:26
Greetings fellas,

I just wanted to contribute to warn others about these 3 time wasters. One is cute but pulls the oh I'm so poor I can't afford this or that sob story to ask for money with zero intent on meeting.

Goes by Maria.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bd329637-639c-40c7-8167-24c7eee32f50

Sami is a catfish. Much uglier in person. Mood swings. Awful breath. Terrible manners. Clingy. Avoid.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9d5d476e-005c-47c5-8f9a-bb9f2a980fcc

And the third, Franccesca, already blocked me on everything but I found her tik tok and IG. PM if you have more intel on her. Seems to run deposit scams all over the country to fund her lavish lifestyle. Wanted me to fly her out to MDE from Cartagena. I thought I outsmarted her booking everything myself but when I was firm on not sending anything she ghosted lmao. Pulls the old oh my dog, mom, relative is sick I need money blah blah blah.

Nounce
09-08-24, 12:18
I really don't see much of a difference in Parque Lleras girls vs Botero girls.

Maybe a few select babes, but the majority are of similar quality.Similar observation, and the few that can go both ways. I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOL

MoonShot
09-08-24, 12:51
Similar observation, and the few that can go both ways. I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOLI personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.

Nounce
09-08-24, 13:35
Disclaimer: YMMV, depending on specific context.

When girl steals from you, she gains power over you.
When you give in to multiple gift requests or alone this line, you surrender your power.
When you pay more or when you think you should pay more, you surrender your power.

The images are the negotiation with a Lleras girl. To me she is very attractive and that I was willing to pay for it (the second image). In hindsight, I probably should have approached her friend first. The friend is attractive but not ask attractive but the deal could have been made quickly. Haha. I hope it is obvious why I turned it down. You can see the turn of the event by the 3rd image. That is when I already arranged a date. She asked how much I paid. I answered that in the beginning of the 3rd image. It is sex for the entire duration except when we need to rest. Jaja.

There are things that I do not want to share so I black it out. I know how she thinks. In this case, it just happened that I was able to say something to her to make her smarter to agree with me. I worked with how to price service and there is a scientific way to explain why people pay more so I am not trying to put people down by posting this. The girls derive their value (or price) from the customers so you are not paying more for better girl (assume the girls have the same background, little education, no skill is one of the many categories).

I don't look at the price as a single event. I look at overall cost. I multiply by days, weeks, or months. I want to be free to do what I want, including trio, at any given time

JohnnieCash
09-08-24, 15:54
Could not work out a service agreement with this one. LOLIs that a woman?

Nounce
09-08-24, 18:26
Is that a woman?You are insider. Haha. I can send you the unblurred foto if you drop me your WhatsApp by PM.

BTW, my current favorite like Afro electro. They usually are DJ collections that she found on Youtube. She could not find them from subscription services.

Nounce
09-08-24, 18:34
I personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.I agree with your assessment when I observe it from your point of view.

One can read my reports about these two areas from my posts this year to judge the quality of my posts and your posts too. My posts have included information about session, age, price, where they are from, and even blurred foto. The difference between us is you seem to say that you don't talk to these girl or take them. and I have said in my post this. This can apply to your shopping observation in El Centro as well.


I give the edge to Botero but if only you know what you are doing.

I am not here to claim I know what I am doing because I got help from some of the most experienced guys. I usually don't mentioned names but they have mentioned me enough times here when we met.

Balboa
09-08-24, 19:49
I personally disagree. You get the worst of the worst in El Centro and there might be a gem or two but you have to work hard. The quality of the girls in Park Lleras is much better but it is true you also get some dogs hanging around. Now I usually don't hang out in Park Lleras late that night when it is busiest so my perspective is only based on early evening.

I don't pick up streetwalkers so I can't tell you my personal opinion on the girls performance in bed bed.That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and I’m good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!

TeddyT6969
09-08-24, 20:06
I've never been to Colombia but plan to go there. Are there casas or the equivalent to termas in Brazil there? If so what are they like?

MoonShot
09-08-24, 20:09
That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and Im good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!I agree, everyone needs to check it out for themselves. The type of girl in performance everyone is looking for differs depending on that person. Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for you, no reason to go elsewhere because it's the best bang for your buck in Medellin. And if you're not happy with the girls on the streets, you can just walk over to the casas for a similar price.

There is no disagreement that El Centro is the best budget option available in Medellin.

Mastov
09-08-24, 20:44
Medellin Vs Bogota.

I'm planning on doing an extended stay in Medellin or Bogota for at least half a year. Is there any reason to choose Bogota over Medellin?

My priorities are:

- Agencies or Massage Parlors over Street Walkers or Clubs.

- I don't like drinking, loud music or walking the streets.

- BBFS.

- I'm open to Seeking Arrangements, though I've never done it.

Questions:

1) Is there any reason to choose Bogota over Medellin, given the above goals?

2) Does Medellin have better or worse agency options than Bogota?

3) Does Medellin have better or worse massage parlor options than Bogota?

4) How common is BBFS in Bogota vs Medellin?

5) How do Bogota women compare to Medellin women in beauty and pleasantness?

6) How is Seeking in Bogota vs Medellin?

Knowledge
09-09-24, 02:16
I think it is a gross exaggeration to suggest the girls of Lleras are of much higher quality than Centro girls. If I put aside that some of them work both locations and just look at it objectively I think it's fair to say there are fewer "untouchables" workingi Lleras than there are around Veracruz. Once you factor in the cost offers of both locations then it is just batshit to try to justify the Lleras uplift. I hung around there Saturday night around 9 pm to enjoy some people watching before the crowds come. I had not been there in months and I was surprised how run of the mill to down right skanky some of the strollers were. I found it much more interesting to watch the punter parade. We definitely come in all shapes, sizes and colors.


That's funny. Some dogs?? Pero muchas, LOL.

They change their clothing, put on makeup, go to Lleras.

Work hard to find gems?

You just walk around and chat. Actually it's fun. For me anyway, and Im good at it :)

To each their own. Enjoy!

Shemp
09-09-24, 06:36
I've never been to Colombia but plan to go there. Are there casas or the equivalent to termas in Brazil there? If so what are they like?I have spent many an evening in the termas in Rio de Janiero & there is nothing remotely similar in Medellin or Cartagena & I am guessing, not in the rest of Colombia either.

Explorer8939
09-09-24, 10:26
Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?

Nounce
09-09-24, 15:24
Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for youHis post has another nugget that I am sure you like. I think you don't really get it because you don't have experience to understand what he wrote.


Hooking up in a bit to spend a day together.He is very experienced. There is a lot of learning curve involved. You are basically stuck like I would be if I don't have some ISGers who were teaching me what to do in real time. LOL.

Balboa
09-09-24, 18:01
I agree, everyone needs to check it out for themselves. The type of girl in performance everyone is looking for differs depending on that person. Go to El Centro, take a look at the girls, find one you like and take her to a short time hotel and if it is enjoyable for you, no reason to go elsewhere because it's the best bang for your buck in Medellin. And if you're not happy with the girls on the streets, you can just walk over to the casas for a similar price.

There is no disagreement that El Centro is the best budget option available in Medellin.Exactly! Cool beans!

We all seem to find our particular niche and what we find enjoyable.

Balboa
09-09-24, 18:10
I think it is a gross exaggeration to suggest the girls of Lleras are of much higher quality than Centro girls. If I put aside that some of them work both locations and just look at it objectively I think it's fair to say there are fewer "untouchables" workingi Lleras than there are around Veracruz. Once you factor in the cost offers of both locations then it is just batshit to try to justify the Lleras uplift. I hung around there Saturday night around 9 pm to enjoy some people watching before the crowds come. I had not been there in months and I was surprised how run of the mill to down right skanky some of the strollers were. I found it much more interesting to watch the punter parade. We definitely come in all shapes, sizes and colors.I have to agree. I enjoy watching the "punter parade" as well! LOL.

I've been to Lleras a few nights this week, and I do get a kick out of the show.

It's a party atmosphere and the guys are in the drivers seat and having fun!

Amusing to watch it all and just see how Medellin has changed over the years.

Over 25 years for me. Yikes! LOL.
I remember the military guarding the road from Rio Negro to the city. Check points. Dog patrols, tanks, etc.
Not a gringo in sight. Not a smart one anyway, lol.
I was dumb and in lust though.
Anyway, different ballgame now. Some ways better, some ways not.
Still great!

Lots of girls walking about Lleras. Mostly not so hot, a few head turners, plenty of skank types as well.

I did meet one stunner last night. A tall beautiful red head. Not normally my type, but very classy looking, beautiful, and nice.

I was spent from the days activities, however, I did get her contact info.

Off to the gym and then the Botero hunt.

Enjoy!

JohnnieCash
09-09-24, 21:20
You are insider. Haha. I can send you the unblurred foto if you drop me your WhatsApp by PM.Nounce has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space , but no need to send me the pic really, I was just being cheeky about the girl you mentioned in the post and then proceeded to mask her whole damn body hah. I'm always curious when someone posts the pics of SWs to see if I might know them but I can't say I was able to recognize this one LOL.

Shemp
09-10-24, 04:28
Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?You can bring any woman you want in to the mansion as long as she is 18 + years old & has an acceptable ID. Your option for other women are endless=facebook, escorts, botero plaza, parque lleras, casas, stripclubs, massage spas etc. Etc.

Husker Dude
09-10-24, 04:28
Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?As long as they have a valid cedula and have not been banned from the Mansion. Any chica can come in with you from the outside.

Explorer8939
09-10-24, 11:01
You can bring any woman you want in to the mansion as long as she is 18 + years old & has an acceptable ID. Your option for other women are endless=facebook, escorts, botero plaza, parque lleras, casas, stripclubs, massage spas etc. Etc.Thank you.

I think that La Mansion is located close to some of those places.

BenTiger07
09-10-24, 12:17
Bros, what is the actual per hour & nightly rate that will usually close for gustos / isla quality girls & parque quality girls? Per HR & nightly. Wondering if I'm overpaying. I don't want to be blamed for raising prices. But I don't want to go home alone either! LOL.

BenTiger07
09-10-24, 13:06
Staying in La Mansion. After sampling the ladies downstairs, what are my options for other women? Can I bring "outside" ladies to my room?I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.

DiscoverFL
09-10-24, 17:05
I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FwFFew3MYLarUSJ56.
Website: http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/.

No relation to Loutron.

Fun Luvr
09-10-24, 18:07
Thank you.

I think that La Mansion is located close to some of those places.Hotel La Mansion is not the same as the Mansion Hotel discussed on this site. The monger Mansion Hotel is also known as Medellin Plaza hotel and Hotel M. The Hotel La Mansion is in the downtown area and is close to many casas and cheap strip clubs. DiscoverFL's link to the map is the correct location of the monger Mansion. There are no casas or strip clubs in the immediate vicinity of the monger Mansion.

JayWonEm
09-10-24, 22:27
I couldn't find La Mansion on google maps. How is it & where? Someone told me mansion is another term for loutron, but that sounds false.Here is a previous recommendation on Loutron. There are also a number of youtube videos available which portray it as upscale. Mansion does not appear to be "upscale" from what I can tell.


Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.

BenTiger07
09-10-24, 22:41
Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed.

MxTH9
09-10-24, 22:52
Hi,

How is the nightlife during the week?

Monday to Thursday?

The club is open? A lot of people? Some bar with a lot girl?

Thanks.

Jim0129
09-11-24, 04:25
This is a youtube video about a guy who was denied entry into Medellin Colombia by customs agents, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFDu6T6QbEo&t=838s

Exoticspirit
09-11-24, 12:06
Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed.The girls at the Hotel M (monger Mansion hotel) are basically like a smaller sample size of what you would find at Parque Lleras, ie. , all sizes and shapes. Many of the girls at the Mansion venture over to Parque Lleras afterwards if they strike out at the Mansion bar. One dude and I actually walked from Hotel M up to Parque Lleras / Provenza one night and it was just a 12 minute stroll, no problems at all. You can see a separate thread on Hotel M under its former name Casa Blanca here. I'll be staying at Hotel M again later in October.

BenTiger07
09-11-24, 14:26
Thank you.

I spend about a few months every year in Medellin, Brazil, & New York. In the past, I mostly focused on picking up girls by going out and ignored the online scene. Great experience offline most of the time. However, I decided to give the online scene a try because of convenience & prices I see, but I'm learning it's not convenient. Here's my honest experience. If any advice, feel free.

Pasionprepagos and mileroticos:

Prices seem good. I made it clear to 2 girls I talked to on there that if the picture is not real, service will be declined. They still pretend it's real. Around the moment of the appointment, games start to occur. Either they mention picture is not real or busy. Maybe afraid to meet at my place too. I understand the last excuse as we're strangers, but that can be easily solved by meeting near a local bar or restaurant for the 1st time. Anyone have good experiences on escort sites? Waste of time to me.

Facebook / IG:

Noticed many people talk about facebook here and IG too. This is not a bad venue. I met some girls this way, but I think you need to be careful who you PM. If you start PMing a bunch of girls "do you offer any services" or "what's your WhatsApp", eventually you may accidentally ask some normal girls who you thought were workers. They may get offended and report you. I don't know fb / ig policy, but I'm guessing you risk losing your account if you get reported a lot. So if you do this, make a completely separate account with no ties to your original. Maybe few pictures of you. You can afford to loss that account.

Tinder / Bumble:

Can work, but it's becoming a popular venue for gangs who want to drug / rob you. You need to be smart & cautious here.

Offline scene-.

Plenty of daytime scene spots that I sometimes I partake in, but I try not to, so I have more energy to go out at night. Fase dos or Parque 1st to see if there's someone I like for cheaper. With current prices at parque, for 90 minutes, I usually close around 300,000-650,000. If nothing, Gusto / Isla for higher quality girls at a price. Cheapest I got at Gustos for 2 hrs recently is 900,000. I only go for girls I'm really into at that price, or I go home alone. These are prices when first meeting them. More choices Thursday-sat night, but at a price because of more gringos. If I want to repeat, I get their phone number to call them to meet Sun-Thurs daytime for cheaper prices. Usually 25-33% cheaper. Sometimes even 50% cheaper.

Explorer8939
09-11-24, 14:42
Hotel La Mansion is not the same as the Mansion Hotel discussed on this site. The monger Mansion Hotel is also known as Medellin Plaza hotel and Hotel M. The Hotel La Mansion is in the downtown area and is close to many casas and cheap strip clubs. DiscoverFL's link to the map is the correct location of the monger Mansion. There are no casas or strip clubs in the immediate vicinity of the monger Mansion.Sorry, I am referring to the Hotel M.

Nounce
09-11-24, 15:25
The girl sent me a picture after she left. I looked at it and then found out I have a chair which I did not know was adjustable. Mine has 3 positions. Try it if you have this type of chair.

Yuvaraj
09-11-24, 15:51
Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?


Go to Loutron. The lineup is decent, most girls are in the 7 to 8 range. The place is clean and safe, and is a short uber drive from where you will be staying at. Rates are about 400 mil for 1 HR. I can't think of a better option.

BenTiger07
09-11-24, 18:28
The girls at the Hotel M (monger Mansion hotel) are basically like a smaller sample size of what you would find at Parque Lleras, ie. , all sizes and shapes. Many of the girls at the Mansion venture over to Parque Lleras afterwards if they strike out at the Mansion bar. One dude and I actually walked from Hotel M up to Parque Lleras / Provenza one night and it was just a 12 minute stroll, no problems at all. You can see a separate thread on Hotel M under its former name Casa Blanca here. I'll be staying at Hotel M again later in October.Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.

Explorer8939
09-11-24, 19:01
Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.The "M" is relatively expensive, but this is my first time in Medellin, so I don't want to be too adventurous.

Husker Dude
09-11-24, 19:19
Thanks. I get monthly airbnbs, but what are the rates for rooms there? I'll be there for the girls primarily of course, but there's nothing unique about that. The unique thing about that spot is the bar+hotel combo to live around like-minded men & girls.Around 100 US / night.

Yuvaraj
09-11-24, 19:54
I'm going to Medellin next week. I would love to meet senior guys like you for a beer. Last time I was there, I had the chance of meeting DiscoverFL at the bar next door to hotel M. Is there a preferred bar that you guys try to meet at? Feel free to DM if that is preferred. Thanks.


In the past two weeks, I have personally meet 5 fellow mongers, 4 of them members of ISG, and so far, all of them are having successful trips in Medellin. We all do different things but no one is having a bad trip and most of the other guys have already gone home without any issues. Not all of their girls have been great but overall the girls have been good according to the guys.

Most of the guys I met were seeing girls on Facebook but some were also meeting street girls on Park Llerras or online prepago girls. No one was complaining about prices and they paid what they wanted to pay. We shared pictures of our girls and the girls looked attractive to me.

Just telling you what guys on the ground are telling me. Guys are happy on the ground. No one complaining about what other guys are doing or paying. We are all just here trying to have a good time.

BenTiger07
09-11-24, 21:22
Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?They charged me 400000 last year. I went once recently & its about 450000 now cash, maybe 60 k more by card but I don't recall exactly. I had girls quote for 200 DOLLARS to get BBJ there, which is more than the service, which is so odd. For BBJ / kiss / etc, best to go elsewhere.

DiscoverFL
09-11-24, 21:32
Thank you all. I suppose I'll checkout mansion on a weekend night. Based on the 250-300 K prices I'm reading about here, I don't expect the quality to be high there, but it's worth stopping by since it's popular & near the park where there are many other spots to go to if needed. It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. 250-300 k is really a low-end pricing, heavy negotiating, end of night, etc. Plan more practical 300-400 k ($75-100 USD) and you will have your pick and little negotiating drama. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs because its riskier, takes for effort, etc.

BenTiger07
09-11-24, 21:35
Decent guy who spends a few months every year in medellin, Brazil, & NY. In the past, I mostly focused on picking up girls by going out and ignored online scene. I had many great experiences going out. Recently, I decided to give the online scene a try because of convenience & prices. But I'm quickly learning it's not convenient. Here's my honest experience. If any advice, feel free.

Pasionprepagos and mileroticos:

Price seem good. I made it clear to 2 girls I talked to on there that if the picture is not real, service will be declined. They still pretend it's real. Around the moment of the appointment, games start to occur. Either they mention pic is not real or busy. Maybe afraid to meet at my place too. I understand the last excuse as we're strangers, but that can be easily solved by meeting near a local bar / restaurant for the 1st time. Anyone have good experiences on these kinds of sites? Waste of time to me.

FB / IG:

Noticed many people talk about FB / IG. I met some girls this way, but I think you need to be careful who you PM. You don't want to risk getting banned if you get reported.

Tinder / Bumble:

Haven't used it much but I heard it's important to be cautious there.

Offline scene-.

Plenty of daytime spots that I do partake in but I try not to, so I have energy to go out at night & feel outgoing. Fase dos or Parque 1st to see if there's someone I like for cheaper. Maybe I'll add mansion now to the mix. With current prices at parque, for 90 minutes, I usually close around 300,000- 650,000. If nothing, Gusto / Isla for higher quality girls at a price. Cheapest I got at Gustos 2 hrs recently is 900,000. I will only go for girls I'm into at that price. These are prices when first meeting them. More choices thurs-sat night, but at higher price. If I want to repeat, I get their phone number to call them to meet sun-thurs daytime for cheaper prices. Usually 25-33% cheaper. Sometimes even more.

DiscoverFL
09-11-24, 21:54
The "M" is relatively expensive, but this is my first time in Medellin, so I don't want to be too adventurous.I 100% agree with this approach. While the "M" 'sucks', it is unique and should be experienced once. Daytime you get to meet and hang with other mongers staying there, and you are right above the bar where you can meet the girls and invite them up easily. Convenience does trump the Motel 6 feeling. Then once you got your Medellin bearings, you can move forward to a nice AirBnb or similar for your next trip (I am particular to a neighborhood nearby called Manila -- Google it).

MiamiBoy1
09-11-24, 23:29
Thanks for the info. Does the 400 mil include the BBJ or that is additional because I heard some casa charge extra for BBJ and kissing?CBJ by default.

Husker Dude
09-11-24, 23:31
It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. 250-300 k is really a low-end pricing, heavy negotiating, end of night, etc. Plan more practical 300-400 k ($75-100 USD) and you will have your pick and little negotiating drama. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs because its riskier, takes for effort, etc.A good number for Mansion girls is 350 K including taxi.

Bdd1124
09-11-24, 23:49
I have been to this spa about 3-4 times its on the same street as Marquee hotel anyone gotten any action from any girls there me nothing.

GiraffyBoy
09-12-24, 01:19
A good number for Mansion girls is 350 K including taxi.I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?

Cursnoop
09-12-24, 03:51
I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in medellin. I have seen same girl in parque lleras ask for 100+ usd in gusto that has been in Aruba working for 30 usd. They know they can set price high because tourist will pay anything.

Mr Enternational
09-12-24, 08:50
It's basically the same girls, at least those with IDs. Girls have told me that since the bar is 'easier' and less dangerous they are comfortable charging 300-400 k there and switch to 600 k+ ($150) asking price at park and clubs Yet we still have people believing there are not the same girls at different places charging different prices. Why would she charge 100 there when she can get 200 there? She is at the 100 place because she is ugly and can not get 200. No. It just appears a lot of the girls understand business more than a lot of the mongers.

I just bought the same shit off Temu in Thailand that cost double if I would have bought it off Temu while in the States. All the shit is shipped from the same warehouse in China. Why would they sell it for 100 in Thailand when they can get 200 in the States? Because that is how business works. You can sell the same shit in different places for different prices without it meaning the product in inferior if bought at a place for a lower price.

Mr Enternational
09-12-24, 09:19
I am a newbie here and am just curious. I just met a girl from Cali Columbia when I was in Aruba and she said she had traveled to Aruba because the economy (and pay) wasn't as good in Columbia. Looking at these threads, it seems that the going rate in Medellin is about $75-100. When I hooked up with her she asked me for $50 and I am told that was high. Another girl I hooked up with (equally as hot) only asked for $40 (she was from Columbia as well). My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money? Is it the city? Perhaps she was trying to save face? She said she did the same "work" at home.

Thoughts?Because in Cali there are not a bunch of foreigners running the prices up. The prices are geared towards what Colombians pay. In Medellin you have places that foreigners in particular frequent who will pay more than locals pay. So the girls will go to those places and the girls can tell the foreigners $100 and they think well it is less than at home, so it is a good deal. Now even more foreigners are going there because they see $100 as being less than home but ignorantly do not see it as being outrageous for Colombia, which it actually is. (You have Gabacho in another thread talking about how he pays $120/ month for rent and lives where a lot of these chicks live. So you have to figure if they can get $100 from a foreigner for a couple of hours then they are batting 1000.).

Also, Aruba being much smaller, there is less competiton for the $40 or $50 as there is in Medellin for the $100. She maybe even had friends recommend Aruba and have a support system (transportation fronted, place to stay, way to get customers, etc) already in place, whereas arriving in Medellin it would be dog eat dog and survival of the fittest. Most of the hookers working in Medellin are from Medellin, so if they do not get a customer then they are just home with family instead of being out on the street broke and scrounging as an out of towner would be.

Nounce
09-12-24, 10:54
Yet we still have people believing there are not the same girls at different places charging different prices. .I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place.


My question is, why would a girl travel to Aruba to work when she could stay in-country and make more money?

Like MrE said. Also the price is all over the map. The girl that you meet at mansion changes one price. When she goes to Lleras, she charges another price. It's another price when she meets a customer who stays long term. When you find the same girl on Facebook, it is another price. It is a price that some are paying, but that does not mean the girls are constantly getting work at that price. A lot of them don't seem to get much work. There are many things these girls got wrong. Most can only get the peak-pricing at certain nights but not at off-peak nights.

GiraffyBoy
09-12-24, 12:48
I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place..The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in Medellin. I have seen same girl in parque Lleras ask for 100+ usd in gusto that has been in Aruba working for 30 usd. They know they can set price high because tourist will pay anything.

Gentlemen, thanks so much for the info!

MoonShot
09-12-24, 18:20
I pay girls from lleras, facebook, and centro to my place about the same price to do the same thing. The lleras girl that wanted 150 USD for all cover sex that I posted earlier ended up with 200 mil without restrictions. It does not work with everyone, but it is not that difficult to find some that you can help them to know their place.
Like MrE said. Also the price is all over the map. The girl that you meet at mansion changes one price. When she goes to Lleras, she charges another price. It's another price when she meets a customer who stays long term. When you find the same girl on Facebook, it is another price. It is a price that some are paying, but that does not mean the girls are constantly getting work at that price. A lot of them don't seem to get much work. There are many things these girls got wrong. Most can only get the peak-pricing at certain nights but not at off-peak nights.I don't know why guys are surprised at dynamic pricing. Companies do it all the time. Uber with their surge prices when demand is high. Airlines with dynamic pricing based on supply and demand at any given time. These companies do it based on sophisticated computer programs that determines the most money that they can charge at that moment. The girls don't have access to all the data available at any given time so they just do it based on how they feel about the situation at that time. It makes sense that a girl gauges who you are in that situation and tries to go for the most that she can and then makes a quick decision on whether to accept your offer based on her personal situation at that moment.

Something to keep in mind in that every girl is different and no two girls are identical. The so-called going rate differs depending on the particular girl. While one girl may accept a certain price in a certain place, the girl right next to her may say no and hold firm. Every girl has a different perspective on how business is going and how much she thinks she is worth.

Everything that is said is probably true to some extent but does not apply to all girls. So, yes, there are SOME girls in Park Llleras who also work in El Centro but it is not ALL of the girls. My personal opion is that MOST of the girls who work in Park Llleras are not working in El Centro in the daytime but there is no definitive data either way. Just because some girls work in both locations does not mean all girls do.

Manizales911
09-12-24, 18:23
The places where non locals go to find sex is overpriced that's why you see 75 to 100 dollars in medellin.Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.

MxTH9
09-12-24, 19:23
I really want to go medellin because I like to go party, club and take girl at the end.

But When I read this thread, I feel the girl in medellin cost more than girl in europe x).

In europe, you can have girl for 50 euros in Germany, and in medellin is 100 euros?

A bit strange.

Knowledge
09-13-24, 00:20
Every sofacama and adjustable chair I've seen in Colombia, including those in my apartment adjust that way. I don't personally change the position of mine. I use a spare room for tryouts and new recruits. The adjustable furniture is popular in Colombia because extended families tend to live together in close quarters and repurpose living space for sleeping quarters at night.


The girl sent me a picture after she left. I looked at it and then found out I have a chair which I did not know was adjustable. Mine has 3 positions. Try it if you have this type of chair.

GiraffyBoy
09-13-24, 06:01
Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.Wow. Great info. Thanks!

Nounce
09-13-24, 17:43
I don't know why guys are surprised at dynamic pricing..It's different from dynamic pricing. Mainly it's people who are paying peak-price all the time. After you pay peak-price to the same girl a few times (I skip this step because I don't have the urgency), if you are patient. wait for the girl to contact you. For example, on a Tuesday, just let her know you can't pay Saturday tourist rate. Ask her how much she made on Monday or tonight when she argues. One should get an idea of where I am going. My experience also told me that the girls who accpeted are better performers and just think about it that you are paying less for better performance. Not all girls will agree but some will. There are some girls that can make a lot of money in a night but my observation is most can't. And that has nothing to do with what I think is attractive or not. I do not want to session with girls what can maintain high price from Lleras because that implies her mileage is high and service will be limited, supply and demand, right? LOL.

If one thinks the price indicate quality, i posted report that I have FB girl charging 450 coming on my term. and the recent report the Lleras 150 USD girl. They are higher price so they must be better looking too. Again, not all will do it but some will. You just need to learn how to get to those that are smart enough to adjust.

Nice guy usually won't get the best in this context. They think they get it but they don't know and have not tested the upper limit. For example, the reports that say Loutron is great. It may be great for someone, that is because he doesn't know how much better he can have. You can be nice but you have to be strict. Girls are constantly testing your boundary. In a way, this is where the respect is coming from and one reason why guys say girls are laughing at some guys who pay a lot because the guys give away power.

Nounce
09-13-24, 17:51
Every sofacama and adjustable chair I've seen in Colombia, including those in my apartment adjust that way. I don't personally change the position of mine. I use a spare room for tryouts and new recruits. I have a room and bath for girl. But the mirror is in the living room and the balcony is outside of the living room. Now I am able to use this chair so I move my activity to living room altogether. More space for sex, dancing, and I can see girl when she went out for a smoke. It's the best arrangement for me.

MoonShot
09-13-24, 18:04
It's different from dynamic pricing. Mainly it's people who are paying peak-price all the time. After you pay peak-price a few times, if you are patient. wait for the girl to contact you. For example, on a Tuesday, just let her know you can't pay Saturday tourist rate. If she argue, ask her how much she made on Monday or tonight. One should get an idea of where I am going. Not all girls will agree but some will. There are some girls that can make a lot of money in a night but my observation is most can't. And that has nothing to do with what I think is attractive or not. I do not want to session with girls what can maintain high price from Lleras because that implies her mileage is high. LOL.

Nice guy usually won't get the best. They think they get it but they don't know and have not tested the upper limit. You can be nice but you have to be strict. Girls are constantly testing your boundary. In a way, this is where the respect is coming from and one reason why guys say girl are laughing at some guys who pay a lot.Higher prices at peak times and lower prices at slower times, that's the definition of dynamic pricing by the girls. Now, I think that you are making the point that some guys pay peak price all the time despite the ability to pay a lower price at slower periods. But that may be case that some guys don't want to haggle over $10 or $20 when they see their favorite girls because they feel uncomfortable doing that.

Now I have never heard stories about girls laughting at some guys who pay a lot and admiring guys who pay them much lower prices. I think that is what guys who pay low prices like to think. I have heard girls tell me how much more other guys pay them rather than the amount I am paying them but that is more of an attempt to try to get me to pay more next time and there is no laughing at these guys. It is more that this is what I should be paying and I'm not. As you would expect, girls love generous guys and just want them to return ASAP.

I did have a girl tell me about a generous client and she lost touch with him because she lost her cellphone. She says she misses him very much and really liked him, as you would expect. No laughing at the guy or mockery. I don't know many businessmen who mock guys who pay top dollar and have great respect for those who pay them the minimal amount.

Nounce
09-13-24, 18:57
In europe, you can have girl for 50 euros in Germany, and in medellin is 100 euros?

A bit strange.You have not factored into the time. Some are for more than 1 hour. Some are for multiple pops. Some are for unlimited sex for several hours.

Jorell3
09-13-24, 19:53
I know it's not the focus of Medellin but I love a good massage with options. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know. Will be visiting in a few months.

Mastov
09-14-24, 06:14
Not only for girls, everything else too. I live in Manizales and I live in a brand new apartment building in one of the quietest areas of the city, three bedrooms, two bathrooms,$300 usd a month. Bar girls are not much cheaper here,60-80 k pesos. An agency with decent quality girls 190 k for an hour and a half delivered to my door but I don't prefer either of these options, I'm not a smash and dash kind of guy. Seeking Arrangement girls is what I prefer, I pay them 400 k for three hours with the stipulation that if all goes well it could lead to a monthly "arrangement". I have two stunningly beautiful girls here in Manizales on monthly "allowance" for one million a month and they have to see me a minimum of three times a month for at least three hours and they are more than grateful and treat me like a king, we go out dancing and partying or they cook for me at my place and we put on music and have a good time eventually leading to the bedroom. For me it's not just about sex, I prefer a true GFE experience which is hard to find anywhere these days but it can be had but in my experience not in Medellin anymore. I tried Seeking Arrangement in Medellin and the prices they wanted was laughable.I'm considering Medellin as a candidate city to relocate to semi-long term. I'm primarily looking for Escort agencies with BBFS or Seeking Arrangements. I have no interest in the street walking or night club scene. Would you say Manizales is a better version of Medellin for someone who's mostly a boring shut-in? How are the dating opportunities different between Medellin vs Manizales for civilians? Any major downsides to Manizales over Medellin? I'd imagine the smaller population does mean less Escorts, Sugar Babies, dating opportunities. Is there less crime and scopolamine?

WhileImYoung
09-14-24, 18:37
Thanks for this informative report. I'll avoid these. To add to this, these are some time wasters I met through SA (in BOG):

https://members.seeking.com/member/f81048f0-1282-43b3-8b48-6d60401138b2

https://members.seeking.com/member/5d4db825-050e-4134-b2c1-85de94c32f00

Both of these ended up just wanting to chat and asked me to send money before doing anything.


Greetings fellas,

I just wanted to contribute to warn others about these 3 time wasters. One is cute but pulls the oh I'm so poor I can't afford this or that sob story to ask for money with zero intent on meeting.

Goes by Maria.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bd329637-639c-40c7-8167-24c7eee32f50

Sami is a catfish. Much uglier in person. Mood swings. Awful breath. Terrible manners. Clingy. Avoid.

LoveItHere69
09-15-24, 17:38
Agreed, many parts of centro are perfectly safe to visit. The chance you get mugged there during daytime is lower than in El Poblado (debate me on this if you wish). Centro is packed with people on weekdays, there might be pick pockets, but violent attacks don't happen in centro when streets are packed with everyday people.
In the daytime, there are a lot of people walking around and I don't think it is unsafe to visit in the daytime.I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.

Nounce
09-15-24, 20:14
Higher prices at peak times and lower prices at slower times, that's the definition of dynamic pricing by the girls. Now, I think that you are making the point that some guys pay peak price all the time despite the ability to pay a lower price at slower periods. But that may be case that some guys don't want to haggle over $10 or $20 when they see their favorite girls because they feel uncomfortable doing that.

Now I have never heard stories about girls laughting at some guys who pay a lot and admiring guys who pay them much lower prices. I think that is what guys who pay low prices like to think. I have heard girls tell me how much more other guys pay them rather than the amount I am paying them but that is more of an attempt to try to get me to pay more next time and there is no laughing at these guys. It is more that this is what I should be paying and I'm not. As you would expect, girls love generous guys and just want them to return ASAP.

I did have a girl tell me about a generous client and she lost touch with him because she lost her cellphone. She says she misses him very much and really liked him, as you would expect. No laughing at the guy or mockery. I don't know many businessmen who mock guys who pay top dollar and have great respect for those who pay them the minimal amount.There are benefit other than money if you read my Poker post. One girl told me she loves me and how much she likes me. I asked her to prove it. Do you get better sex than others when being generous? Generous is a good thing but it does not necessary get the outcome you desire in this circle.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression. I will just say that I am writing from my own experience.

MoonShot
09-15-24, 21:23
There are benefit other than money if you read my Poker post. One girl told me she loves me and how much she likes me. I asked her to prove it. Do you get better sex than others when being generous? Generous is a good thing but it does not necessary get the outcome you desire in this circle.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression. I will just say that I am writing from my own experience.I am not particularly generous, that is why the girls tell me how much more others are paying them. Ja ja ja. But I do not judge others on the topic of amount paid. It's all good.

You do not know me so reading my posts may give you a different impression.

By the way, your mailbox is full.

For me, the bottom line is this. I am in Medellin. I am enjoying my experience and this debate about prices paid for girls doesn't affect my trip.

VW1936
09-16-24, 03:33
For those that have been to Medellín, Colombia multiple times, what month do you guys see the most Americans there with you?

KeviKev68
09-16-24, 04:06
I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.I love going to El Centro during the day. Lots of hot Vennies and so many with tennis skirts and no panties. If you spend enough time there you can find a super hot girl there at much reasonable price than Lleras.

SpanishBlack
09-16-24, 05:15
Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual, (I speak good Spanish, I smoke weed many of them do too) and by the time I ask them how much for the hour, they usually are comfortable enough to give me a decent price. If she's very hot and I want her immediately, I just pay the price. Some may not agree but since implementing this method in my trip to Cali in April I've been getting random BBBJs and BBFS all over. And the ones that don't do BB, at least have some quality sessions with me.

I'm not going to adopt another man's method on how to get quality sessions, while I'm already getting just that. I don't care that the 9/10 charges you 50 mill And went and got 500 mil from the next guy. If it's not in your own full trip report I already don't believe you.

On to the report, a bit lengthy.

Landed in Medellin about 9 pm and headed to an apartment off booking.com. Pretty spacious, safe area with a few restaurants, drug stores and bars. I had a few girls I'd followed on IG that I wanted to see before anything so I hit them up and decided on the first one that replied. She was a 21 year old blondish tall spinner. 300 mil for an hour. BBBJ and condom sex cum on stomach. Pretty good because she was hot but didn't repeat.

Friday woke up to look for some weed and visit plaza Botero / el centro. After walking around and talking to a few guys I got a weed delivery service with some pretty good weed. Didn't expect that quality in Colombia as all of the other cities sucked. I began to walk thru the short term hotels and saw a cute but kinda ghetto pasa girl. 20 spinner wearing slutty clothes and long nails and lashes. Love it. We chat and decide to go upstairs for 80 mil. Condom everything but good session overall.

As I'm leaving to catch my Uber I see another small petite spinner but this one with a bigger ass. I get her number so I can see her later.

I go home wake up around 8 and decided I wanted to go see how el Centro was at night time. Now I understand this is dangerous and I would advise against it if you aren't fluent in Spanish, a risk seeker or look somewhat not foreigner with money. The goal is to look like you have something to do there and don't stay long.

As I'm there I see a group of 3 girls. I just mind my business and as her friends leave this one approaches me. I was pleasantly surprised. FAT ass, big tits slim waist (obviously surgery) but literally what I needed at the time. I thought she was 25 - early 30's but she ended up being 36.

She said 200 mil for the night (and I said my place, let's go. We went to a bar for some drinks then to my place where she basically kept talking about how horny she is. Bareback everything, she either really did like me or was just horny. We finished up and she decided she was going to go home. I was ok with this because she kept talking about zodiac signs and her failed marriage. She kept talking about wanting to come back tomorrow but more on that.

After she left I still had some juice left and decided to hit up one of the girls from IG. All I can say is that these girls are good at taking pictures. She was ok. 100 mil. But I think the disappointment on my face showed and it was one of the weaker sessions. She did give a BBBJ though.

Next day I wasn't feeling the best and spent most of the day in bed ignoring messages for a return visit. I did have a girl from IG coming over, someone I'd been talking to for a while. She came over and we ordered McDonald and fucked. She's a very hot paisa, I'd say an 8,9. Down to earthish.

The girl from the night in el Centro was very persistent about coming back. I personally think I dodged I scoping, she talked too much and I noticed a few things. Her baby's father took her kids from her and her teenage kids don't talk to her, she's in the middle of changing her legal name. I just think she was into something before and is just now trying to either do it better than before or change her life. Either way I'm not here for that so I let that go.

On Sunday I was feeling better and had the girl from IG came over. We went out to eat came back and did our thing and she left around 10 pm. To me the night was just getting started so I decided to get showered up and go to parque Lleras for the first time. I took an Uber there and had a pretty good conversation with him. As I get out the Uber I get on my phone and realize I don't have my phone. I had left it in the Uber. Fuck. I see the Uber pulling off and decide to chase it as fast as I could but I just couldn't catch up. I'm in Colombia and I'm almost certain at this point that it's a lost cause and just begin thinking on what time I'll be waking up to go buy a new one. I had 0 alcohol that night and almost none the whole trip. I go buy a water and go smoke for a bit, basically admitting defeat / stupidity and go walk around looking at the girls.

I see a girl who's pretty cute, fake tits who gives me the look of a girl I know I'll have good sex with so I stop and talk to her. I tell her about my phone and she calls it from hers. No answer. At this point I decide it's best I make a move now and sleep early so I can get up tomorrow early as it was my last day and had to replace the phone. We head out in taxi but not without her making a request to stop in Barrio Antioquia for the pink stuff the Colombians like. I don't partake but was interested to see their little hood and how they do their hustling. They have a whistle system. Pretty cool.

We get to my place and get to action shortly after. She was hotter without clothes. Ass was thick very fun in doggy. Anyways I decide to call my phone again before I get real into this session and lo and behold someone answers. It was the Uber driver. He said a customer found the phone and he doesn't live far and can drop it off. Wow. I don't even believe I'm in Colombia. An iPhone 14 Pro Max getting returned? I stop the session and meet up with him. I ask her how much I should give him for this she said 100-200 mil. I ended up giving him 350 mil because I was so grateful. I returned to the house and had some of the best sex of my life. The chemistry between her and I was like we been dating for a while. Funny because she told me she did have a boyfriend. I gave her 900 mil. She was with me 3 ish hours, helped with the phone, great session. She saved my night and I thought that deserved a good reward.

I had to go to the cash machine so I call another Uber to take us there, to her place and then back to mine. At the beginning of the day when the IG girl came I had taken a Cialis. I was still rolling off of it and the high of recovering my phone I decided to see what Lleras would be like at 3:30 am. It was decent with some talent. Lot of girls looking for their lucky pull at 4 am. I see a short girl from a distance who looks just like the type I think most guys here like. Long black hair smallish frame be cup with low fat everywhere besides her fat ass. I was kinda impressed with how it sat. Got up close and looked good about a 7. Looked 21 but was 26. Venezuelan. Decided I'd get her right back to the house and have fun before the sun came up.

She came over and talked for a bit. 2 kids but didn't look it at all. But my goodness was this girl a FREAK. My dumbass forgot the condom from last girl and she found it next to the lube. She tosses it to the side like she doesn't give a shit and just starts blowing me. Then she rides with no abandon. She then grabs the lube and says to me I put some in my ass too BTW. Basically telling me to fuck her in the ass. I do that, hair pulling, be cup grabbing, she even had me putting my hand in her vagina and pulling on it while in her ass. It's some shit I've never done before but I like girls that don't give a fuck how slutty they look they just want to get their shit off. I've noticed Venezuelans are more like this than Colombians. I was either empty or just enjoying it too much but I couldn't finish. We stop and chill and she gets mad because I haven't finished and I fuck her again in the ass in the kitchen. She eventually taps out and the sun is starting to come out and she gets a taxi and leaves. I sleep completely satisfied with the days events.

Monday it's my day to leave. I decide on one more Centro run and I'the see the girl from IG again. I like sex with many girls but I like stable energy around me as well. In Centro on Monday the girls weren't too hot so I decided to go less off of the overall rating and more so if she looks slutty. Enter the chubby Venezuelan with tongue ring and fatter ass. She has real green eyes too. Literally looked like she would eat me alive and I love that. She told me 50 mil. In my head I'm like wow but I say ok and we go to a short term hotel. Big girl with a big ass but her eyes really were captivating. If she got lipo and a BBL she'll be a problem. The sex wasn't particularly wild like the night before but it was satisfying. BBBJ and condom sex. Left Centro and returned to my place. Got cleaned, changed and IG girl came over. We went to a restaurant near the apartment where I was staying and we came back and had a pretty passionate session.

She left and I got my stuff cleaned and packed and got the taxi driver who I met last night to drive me to the airport.

This was a great trip. I'm glad I travelled first to many other Colombian cities and others in Latinoamrica BEOFRE coming to Medellin. I understood the Latino way and more importantly Colombian way as I spent a month in the coast and ccuta last year and Cali earlier this year. My Spanish shocks everyone because I really don't look like someone who should be speaking Spanish so well and it helps create trust and confidence in me. Age, race and attractiveness does matter yeah but I think any man of any race can have as good a time as I did if they learn the language and just be a real person.

Normally I like alcohol however I didn't not necessarily drink because of risk of Scoping, it was just to have a good time without the drinks and I think I accomplished that.

I knew this last year when I left the coast, I learned it in Cali and I just keep getting it confirmed every trip. For me Venezuelans are the best overall. Maybe the type of sex they like just happens to mesh well with how I like it but everywhere I've been my best sessions are with Venezuelans. I don't get asked for "leche" with them, ever. They also fit the attractiveness I like and they don't ask for money over WhatsApp as aggressively. Dominicans will casually ask you for $200 while a Venezuelan will embarrassingly ask you for $40. Colombians somewhere in between.

Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.

Gabacho
09-16-24, 09:04
I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.Yea but that shit happens once in a blue moon it is not an everyday occurance. You're much more likely to get hit by a motorcycle walking down a street in Jakarta LOL.

If I remember correctly I used to have a video of this incident in my old phone as seen by some surveillance camera. It happened in 2022 and it was 2 women fighting and one of them pulled out a knife and got a couple slashes in on the other woman and then ran away like a coward.

My advice to others who may be in Centro is to just avoid these kind of situations if you see them happening. Obviously these are targeted attacks against people who had some beef to settle. If you are minding your own business, you are not likely to be a target of this type of attack. And if you see an attack happening don't get involved just act as if it wasn't happening and continue on with your normal routine.

As with anything there is always some risk no matter what. It is best to litigate the risk since it cannot be stopped completely. Do you not eat mcdonald's because you're afraid of mad cow disease? Do you not swim at the beach due to fear of a shark attack?? Do you jot fly in an airplane because it may crash??

—Gabacho​Out.

Yuvaraj
09-16-24, 14:09
I have had good luck with Tantra massage in Carrera 80. Last time when I was there in Jan, I think it was 150 mil for 1 girl. I really enjoyed their 4 hands option. Quality wise, I would say 7/10. Nothing like Loutron but for me the price was right.


I know it's not the focus of Medellin but I love a good massage with options. If anyone has any recommendations please let me know. Will be visiting in a few months.

Nounce
09-16-24, 15:04
I am not particularly generous, that is why the girls tell me how much more others are paying them. Ja ja ja. But I do not judge others on the topic of amount paid. It's all good.One example I posted before, a girl told me she had no money because her period and had not been working. I told her I would give her money if she took metro to meet me. She got taxi money from her mother to come to me. I took her to eat, gave her some money and sent her home in taxi because I gave up. LOL. She learned from this in a bad way or she already did it to others because she turned around asked other men for money. Not always this way but this is one possibility. My inbox is not full but I don't know why I am not receiving message.

Jrealyo
09-16-24, 20:42
Is Colombia and Thailand still considered the best places for prices?

GiraffyBoy
09-16-24, 21:50
Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual, (I speak good Spanish, I smoke weed many of them do too) and by the time I ask them how much for the hour, they usually are comfortable enough to give me a decent price. If she's very hot and I want her immediately, I just pay the price. Some may not agree but since implementing this method in my trip to Cali in April I've been getting random BBBJs and BBFS all over. And the ones that don't do BB, at least have some quality sessions with me.Dude. Love the report!! And congrats on getting your phone back!

Can I ask what you look like and your age etc? Just trying to see if I can hold a candle to you!! LOL I am a white guy, decent looking, but bald, 58, but look much younger. My spanish is excellent.

LoveItHere69
09-17-24, 00:36
One example I posted before, a girl told me she had no money because her period and had not been working. I told her I would give her money if she took metro to meet me. She got taxi money from her mother to come to me. Women everywhere are broke and need emergency money. But they can not take the bus or metro. EVER!. It must be a taxi. Pisses me off to no end. I tell some of them they are broke because all their money goes to taxi drivers. I take the bus or metro when I can. If I can then they can too.

Gabacho
09-17-24, 02:00
Let me preface my report by saying, I do not negotiate! Before I even get to the sex talk I get to know them a bit on the casual...
Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.Excellent report brother. You did a great job of comparing Centro to Lleras and vennies to paisas. That's pretty wild you got your phone back. I too love the vennies but be careful with them. Sounds like you had an excellent experience and that is what is the most important.

MateoCast98
09-17-24, 02:36
God, the best sex you'll have is from non working girls. Cute girl was working at a supplement shop in a CC. I was buying proteíand and asked for her number. I'm in my late 20's in shape, fluent in Spanish etc. 20 yo Sofia, looks a bit like Veronica Rodriguez. She's taking classes online to be a lawyer. Fast forward, invited her to lunch over the weekend. I kept it smooth just got her a Uber after the date, little kiss on the lips. We were chatting on WhatsApp all week I mentioned I was going out to watch the UfC fights. She asked to come along. I say let's just do it at my place I'll make us drinks order a pizza etc. I have a nice pad with a jacuzzi on the balcony. It's going great we start making out during the prelims. She's so was so horny she squirted while I was fingering her, legit shivering. She's goes down on me all of this is in the living room. I'm not a fan of BJs but I let her go a little bit. Then she gets a wild look in her eyes. Hops on top and slips it in raw no questions asked. She's grinding like crazy while I suck her nips. I ask her to call me papi, she calling me daddy while doing that grinding things that only really feels good for her. She has an insane screaming orgasm. This is all like in like 10 minutes. She collapses on top as I just kiss her cheek and neck while petting her head. I haven't finished yet. She says "que rico" she mentíONS she's really busy with school and work and doesn't have sex that often since she broke up with her BF a 3 months ago. Which seemed true that was way too intense. She asked what I want, I ask if she's on birth control since we didn't use a condom. She puts my hand on her arm to feel the implant (Jadel). I try to be all cute saying I'm shy but want to ask something, she says anything, "since you have that can I cum inside you? She giggles, "para ti lo que queiras bebé " (whatever you want baby). She said it feels super warm and she likes it. I proceed to creampie her 4 times that night pausing in between fights etc. She even let me put it in her ass on the 3rd round. She was exhausted and slept over after the UFC fights. Proceeded to having great morning sex and off she went. All it cost me was pizza and her Ubers.

During my stays in Colombia, I've never worn a condom with a non working girl, they don't even ask. I don't either, I feel if you do it might ruin it, that's what friends have told me it's turns them off / they think you ask every girl to go raw. Just let the moment take over.

This has been about 10-12 normal chicks I've done it with all under 25. No condoms etc always a creampie. Some of them aren't even on BC, happened twice where I had been creampieing this cute little thing named Maria, for like 3 weeks and she drops it on me that's she's scared she missed her period. I was like ohhh they don't give af down here. She got it eventually and I paid for her to go on BC.

Def a generational thing, in the States on seeeking as well, condoms aren't used with college age girls I my experience.

Explorer8939
09-17-24, 02:39
Is Colombia and Thailand still considered the best places for prices?I won't be in Medellin for a few days, but I can tell you now that Thailand is much cheaper.

MateoCast98
09-17-24, 06:55
How did you get your favorite girl you regularly see to go raw? I've noticed most will after a few dates. Even gustos girls if they like you. Regular tinder dates and regular girls you pick up normally are 100% raw in my experience not once have they even mentioned a condom. At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.

However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare. These are top gustos chicks, they arrive at midnight and within 30 minutes they got a guy for 300 dollars toda la noche. They are friends you frequenters would recognize them immediately.

First chick, white Latina, huge fake double the tits, great face, clearly goes to the gym. Pretty face. I've been seeing her for three years.

Met her, took her out from gustos about 6-7 times the first month I met her, I would always buy her a drink even when I take out other girls. We were at my place making out and I just asked "you're so sexy can we go bare?" I'm in my 20's, work out, fluent in Spanish. She looks me up and down hesitantly, I can tell she is considering it, we've had fun together. She gives me the classic, "are you clean? " of course baby, she says " I never do that so I'm clean to I just want to be safe" I say what if I give you a little extra, I offer 200 mil more she says okay "only because it's you".

Get to the bedroom she's examining my cock briefly as she giving a bbj. I go down on her, mainly to do my own little inspection. No open sores or anything etc. Obvi you can't tell for most things asymptomatic. Etc I know it's risky. But she's so hot.

We're kissing and I slip in raw, get the cutest little moan. I asked if she was on BC, she said yes, but not to cum inside. After some BBFS I could tell she was enjoying it raw, so I whispered in her ear " I want to cum inside you". She just gulped and nodded. 💦.

While cuddling and kissing, I asked why she let me go bare? She goes "Usted es guapo why joven why ya te conozco" (your young and handsome and we know each other).

But please don't tell anyone I did that. At gustos if it gets out you do BBFS you get a bad reputation. The other Girls will be mean to you and look down on you, call you a ****. Etc.

Also, then I'll have random guys asking for that service when I only did it with you. If it gets out I know who to blame, she gave me a stern look.

She seemed serious I don't fully believe her, however I believe she only does it with regulars she likes. She def wouldn't do it with a stranger on a first date.

Have never worn a rubber with her since also no up charge after the first time either, she seems to enjoy it as well.

After like 4-5 raw dates. I said hey let's go get tested together just to be sure. She seemed very excited at the suggestion. I guess it was on her mind too. Went, it cost like 600 k for both full panel. Both good to go. I mainly did it because I knew I was going to be fucking her a lot and might as well have some test. I was also fucking some regular girls raw just wanted to be "somewhat safe I know she's high volume" but she is so fucking hot.

Girl #2 blonde, light-skin, Venezuelan, you've seen her, huge fake ass on a gym body, softest skin I've ever felt, great tits, great face, big fake tits, good kisser. She's friends with girl #1 they arrive together alot. I've never taken out girl #2 because she's always taken. And #1 is always bare. Tho they offered the threesome a few times.

The three of us would talk at gustos. I would always buy them drinks and feel them both up. Even if I wasn't taking them out. This phase of me was going to gustos 4-5 times a week.

Anyways one day girl #1 is on vacation in Cancun, all my BBFS options are busy. I see #2 walk in looking fine af in tight white body suit and heels, before she even puts her stuff down (on those little hooks under the bar) guys are already trying to get her attention, I see them perking up. She excuses herself to the bathroom and gives me a little kiss on the cheek as she walks by.

No way #2 knew I was creampieing her friend, gustos girls def don't want that reputation. I've had a long chat with another gustos girl about that specific topic.

Fast forward like 20 minutes she's surrounded by a bunch of Mexican guys, trying to buy her drinks. They are friends competing with each other for her love in the vip section LOL. These guys were very overweight. She gives me that "it's my job look" 👀.

She eventually steps away for a bit they look confused. I swoop in and get her a drink. I can feels the daggers in the back of my head LOL. Everybody waiting for me to leave her unattended for a moment. She joked about it. I ask why she stepped away. She goes "I quoted them 400 dollars 2 hours or 500 toda la noche" that's my price when I don't want to go with them.

I was like damn, she goes "the one in the pink shirt, was asking about bbj and wanted to make out in-here etc. Nooo way am I making out with "that".

I go what about me? She smiles of course (wink) . I knew I had to have her, so how much? How much time do you want?

Do you have the same rates as #1?

We charge more than that now, you're grandfathered in with her since you take her out a lot. But tell you what, I'll give you the same rate as her if you do toda la noche. I negotiate two pops, kissing, bbj, we settle at 250 .

Back to my place super fun in the jacuzzi talked for a while, lots of fun, she had her guard down since she knew I was a regular with #1, sex was out of this world with her. We both loved it.

I saw her three more times that week and even took her to get sushi at her favorite restaurant I really wanted bare with this one. I could tell she "liked" me (as a client). You do sometimes have a connection.

5th date, blowing me in the jacuzzi after dinner at colossal. She sits on me and I can feel her wet kitty rub on me p2 p I can tell she's loving it. Then she asks for a condom. Mood killed. I start to ask, before I can even get it out she goes "that's not happening".

I'm sad, she picks up on it tho. She says if you want that, we can go get tested "together" and I'm not BC so you know.

Fast forward two days later we are getting blood drawn. She really uncharged me I paid 400 $ she knew I wanted it.

Before sex she sat me down and gave me a stern talking, she's a young mom and I felt that vibe. She goes just so you know even with a test this is very dangerous and I never do this. I've known you for a while thru #1 and our past few date, but if I should catch anything I'm going to be very upset at you. Etc.

Also, I told you I'm not on birth control, but yet you still keep asking if you can finish inside. I don't like those pills (plan b) see I'm very into fitness like you know, I don't like messing with that stuff. Cumming inside is not safe, but if you really want to fine. You're an adult you know the potential consequences.

Okay mom. Kinda hot tho tbh.

My god her pussy was divine. Making out in mish with my hands full of her bubble butt. She was loving it too. She was trying to hide her moans but she would gasp and her eyes would roll back every now and then. I was pushing it, I go "where do you want me to cum?" She gives me a stern look, "I already told you, it's you" then went back to enjoying it. I blasted an insane load into her, all the pent up waiting and desiring her raw.

Her legs were shaking as I filled her up, that sneaky fox she LOVES creampies. Maybe that's why she had a kid so young LOL.

Afterwards she's saying she can't believe she just did that. What if she gets pregnant, she's doing that squat thing in the shower, trying to pull out my cum with her fingers. She looks so fucking hot. She keeps saying "wtf Mateo theres so much cum". You're super sexy what can I say.

We get back in bed, I'm kissing her feeling her body. She says, what if you did get me pregnant?. I told her what she wanted to hear to calm her down. Then creampied her again god is it intense.

After, we negotiated I mentioned it's too much to see you regularly like that (400 $), she goes "I know I just knew I could get you for more on the first time " LOL.

She proposed a sugar baby / GF arrangement. Wanted 5 k a month. In return she said she wouldn't work and I could creampie her everyday if I wanted to. And she would go on BC, I thought about it, but nope that's a crazy amount. The amount of fresh new puss I could get for 5 k.

Next visit she was a little hesitant about BBFS again asking if I had been safe since last time etc. Got her down to 300 tln BBFS MSOG, she also made me promise not to tell #1.

Some of my friends have asked me about these two, I've even recommended them in gustos, helped the girls translate. My friends or the crew I'm with that night, will see they say Hi to me, and inquire. I walk over let them know that guy is interested. They thank me for the help, or when I know I'm not taking them out, I get them a drink feel them up for a bit at the bar. That gets the guys attention, when I step away they swoop in.

Two of my friends asked to go bare with them #1 told me. She kinda quizzed me, she goes your friend offered me an extra 200 $ if I fucked him raw. While she analyzed my reaction. I respond with what did you say. She goes "Well of course I said no, you didn't tell him I doy that for you right?, that's only between us. Mmkay (don't fully buy that yet)".

Of course not I want you all to myself, I say.

She goes "okay, I just wanted to make sure, I told one of the other girls and she mentioned that guy asked for that service too and to avoid him" they spread the info around boys be careful who you ask.

I really want a threesome with those two. I've seen them get booked for threesome but I want to BBFS.

They both quote 2 k for a week vacation. Unlimited BBFS cip, if only I could get them both. I just don't want to ruin it with either by asking. Or who knows maybe they both know I'm creampieing them both.

Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.

Bucanero
09-17-24, 10:20
Visiting Medellin again in December after a few years of absence. As in the past, I searched for a decent AirBnb in Laureles. In some places, visitors are not allowed. Obviously, I skip these. However, several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement? Any advice on how to deal with this would be very welcome.

Mr Enternational
09-17-24, 13:41
AirBnb several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement?..Yes. A couple of times in Bogota. Does not really mean anything. If you look at it, that is only pre doing what hotels do once you arrive. How I see it for Airbnb's is that is only for the owner to keep track of who is in their place. The security is the one that actually signs people in. No security has ever told me that person is not on the list and can not come in. They just ask for their ID and sign them in as usual. Hell at the place I am in Bogota right now the security just turns the book around and make you sign yourself in.

Disclaimer: Medellin could be a different animal about it the way stuff is going on in the news. So they could probably be strict on the policy. Other cities do not do all the bullshit that Medellin does, but I can understand why. These other cities are not filled with the Medellin drama.

Mr Enternational
09-17-24, 13:50
At clubs like gustos or fase dos I don't look for BBFS due to obvious high mileage. And from what I've heard from friends most don't at gustos.

However my two fave / regulars which I take out from gustos quite often. They have let me go bare.

Anyways that's how I got my favorite gustos regulars to go raw.Wait a minute, what? You do not look for BBFS at clubs like Gustos because of the obvious high mileage, yet you got two gustos girls to do BBFS. That is like saying I do not fuck crackheads, but anyway, when I convinced these two crackheads to fuck. Cocaine is a helluva drug!

BbqMushrooms
09-17-24, 13:53
I had time so went and found my old post. Medellin Post #50696. I took that picture. You kids have no idea.How do you pull up a post by number? Tried searching, tried changing the URL, no dice.

You even wrote the wrong number … 50696 is here and not your post: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2626600&viewfull=1#post2626600

SpanishBlack
09-17-24, 15:02
Dude. Love the report!! And congrats on getting your phone back!

Can I ask what you look like and your age etc? Just trying to see if I can hold a candle to you!! LOL I am a white guy, decent looking, but bald, 58, but look much younger. My spanish is excellent.Hey, I'm early 30's, black, 5'10, muscular build. Yes, in my prime physically, but I really think a good looking, well put together man of any age under 65/ race can have his way with majority of girls 24, 25+.

Personally I've noticed that Latinoamérica men are less prone to balding. That may be the one thing that works against you. I'm a demographic / genetic observer and love looking at new people. DR and Colombia I've seen less balding that Europe and North America.

Turgid
09-17-24, 15:05
I won't be in Medellin for a few days, but I can tell you now that Thailand is much cheaper.My last visit to Thailand was 2015 and my last visit to Medellin was 2019 and I thought at the time that Medellin was cheaper than Thailand. However, you are in Medellin now and you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.

Nounce
09-17-24, 16:14
you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.But he does not know Medellin.

Nounce
09-17-24, 16:26
I too love the vennies but be careful with them. Sounds like you had an excellent experience and that is what is the most important.My experience too, vennies are more caring and better at GFE right out the gate. I know a lesbian couple. One of them encouraged me put my hand into her pussy and it was a storm in there.

NorthernLight
09-17-24, 17:05
There is difference between guests (including yourself) and visitors. Guest normally means who stays overnight.

The host often asks all guests, but not visitors, be pre-registered.

You can ask the host if you can invite local friends to the apartment. If the host replies that the visitors also have to be pre-registered, you can skip it.


Visiting Medellin again in December after a few years of absence. As in the past, I searched for a decent AirBnb in Laureles. In some places, visitors are not allowed. Obviously, I skip these. However, several other hosts now ask me to pre-register visitors as this is supposedly required by the government. "The following questions are asked in order to comply with the regulatory mandate of the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Tourism of Colombia. " I have to specify names, date of birth and DNI# of all visitors. Of course, I cannot do that as I've not yet met my "visitors". Did anyone of you guys already come across this requirement? Any advice on how to deal with this would be very welcome.

Gabacho
09-17-24, 17:24
My last visit to Thailand was 2015 and my last visit to Medellin was 2019 and I thought at the time that Medellin was cheaper than Thailand. However, you are in Medellin now and you spend much time in Thailand so I'll have to accept your comparison. Things have certainly changed.I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin:

Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya. That being said, I think accomation such as AirBnb and food are cheaper in Thailand.

I have a real nice airBnb I'm paying $15 a day and I have a whole apartment on the 7th floor of a condo building with AC, hot water, full kitchen to cook and prepare meals, a balcony and a swimming pool on-site and every other day 3 maids come and sweep / mop take out the trash, wash my dirty dishes, change the sheets on the bed and swap my towels for new ones. I don't think you would find that in Medellin for $15.

Also a 30 pack of eggs at Big see is 126 baht ($3.81 usd). Last time I was at exito Aranjuez back in March I believe the 30 pack of eggs was $15,900 COP ($3.97 usd). A whole rotisserie chicken at Big see is 132 baht ($4 usd)​ while a rotisserie chicken at exito is $19,000 COP ($4.75 usd).

Transportation is also cheaper in Thailand with the baht bus costing just 10 baht (30 ¢ usd)​ and the Medellin​ metro costing 3280 COP (82 ¢ usd). ​

I will soon be venturing into the jungle into the northern Isaan region of Thailand to a town called Udon Thani which is 60 km from the Thailand / Laos border. Things are supposed to be alot cheaper up there than in Pattaya (which is basically a tourist destination) so maybe up there the price the women charge will be more closer to what prostitutes in Colombia charge. I will report my experiences in the corresponding sections.

I think the real place of interest in Southeast Asia that may be as cheap or even cheaper than Colombia is not Thailand at all but actually Jakarta, Indonesia. And I will be investigating the scene over there as well and I will report back on what I find.

GabachoOut.

Bucanero
09-17-24, 18:09
Thanks! The official document mentions "huespedes", which means guests, but the host mentioned "visitors". The difference may have been lost in the translation. In any case, I'll ask the host to be sure.


There is difference between guests (including yourself) and visitors. Guest normally means who stays overnight.

The host often asks all guests, but not visitors, be pre-registered.

You can ask the host if you can invite local friends to the apartment. If the host replies that the visitors also have to be pre-registered, you can skip it.

GreenBud
09-17-24, 18:09
Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya.But the Pattaya beach road FLs are for 1 hour. Botero FLs will be for "rato". Many will promise you 30 minutes, but you will be lucky to get 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes before the knock. Bogota might be worst for the quick knock than Medellin.

Also, IMO, the overall quality in Colombia is better for street FLs (IMO, more so in Bogota than Medellin for street FLs).

Overall for street FLs, I definitely prefer Colombia over Thailand. And I definitely prefer Santa Fe (Bogota) over Santa Cruz (Medellin).

Mr Enternational
09-17-24, 19:08
But the Pattaya beach road FLs are for 1 hour. Botero FLs will be for "rato". Many will promise you 30 minutes, but you will be lucky to get 15 minutes, maybe 20 minutes before the knock. Bogota might be worst for the quick knock than Medellin.

Also, IMO, the overall quality in Colombia is better for street FLs (IMO, more so in Bogota than Medellin for street FLs).

Overall for street FLs, I definitely prefer Colombia over Thailand. And I definitely prefer Santa Fe (Bogota) over Santa Cruz (Medellin).The knock depends on the motel. In Bogota chick took me to one last night where we were literally in the room an hour and a half and nobody ever came knocking. 12,000 pesos. When we finally left out, I saw the guy sitting downstairs in a chair. I do not know if he was listening to music, sleep, or dead.

Other apples we can compare is disco freelancers. In Pattaya I 99% of the time pay $35 for long time. The most one should pay IMO is $60. I have seen reports here of some guys paying $90. (I do not think those guys negotiate.) What is a Gustos freelancer going to get a guy for long time when he takes them out of the club?

DaShadow
09-17-24, 20:55
Hey guys. My friends bachelor party is coming up and they rented a huge house in Medellin for the weekend.

Any advice or contact info for some nightly entertainment at the vila? Or do we all have to go out every night?

Thanks in advance.

GiraffyBoy
09-17-24, 21:58
Hey, I'm early 30's, black, 5'10, muscular build. Yes, in my prime physically, but I really think a good looking, well put together man of any age under 65/ race can have his way with majority of girls 24, 25+.

Personally I've noticed that Latinoamrica men are less prone to balding. That may be the one thing that works against you. I'm a demographic / genetic observer and love looking at new people. DR and Colombia I've seen less balding that Europe and North America.SB, Thanks for the info. Generally speaking, I agree with you. Not much I can do though about the hair. Not going with minoxidil or whatever. Most people think I am in my mid 40's, so I should be good for a while. I don't have any experience in Colombia yet, but I hope to visit soon. Thinking to go to Cali or Med. I go to Ecuador quite a bit and do alright down there.

GiraffyBoy
09-17-24, 22:12
I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin: Great Info! Thanks Gab.

GiraffyBoy
09-17-24, 22:16
Back to my place super fun in the jacuzzi talked for a while, lots of fun, she had her ... Mateo, Great report! This place you have, did you rent it or do you own it? How much does it cost if you are renting it and for how long?

Combo
09-17-24, 23:31
God, the best sex you'll have is from non working girls. Cute girl was working at a supplement shop in a CC. I was buying proteand and asked for her number. I'm in my late 20's in shape, fluent in Spanish etc. 2

W / o a doubt. But you're in your 20's and fluent in Spanish. You should have no problem getting non-pros in Colombia. I remember those days, but they're fading fast.

Explorer8939
09-18-24, 00:16
I'm In Thailand right now and I can confirm 100% that Medellin is cheaper, but obviously you need to compare apples to apples. Of course a beach road freelancer is cheaper than a girl from gustos or loutron etc.

So comparing apples to apples Pattaya vs Medellin:

Beach road freelancers start at 1000 baht ($30 usd). Botero street prostitutes start out at 50 k COP ($12.50 usd). So street prostutes in Medellin are cheaper than street prostitutes in Pattaya. That being said, I think accomation such as AirBnb and food are cheaper in Thailand.

I have a real nice airBnb I'm paying $15 a day and I have a whole apartment on the 7th floor of a condo building with AC, hot water, full kitchen to cook and prepare meals, a balcony and a swimming pool on-site and every other day 3 maids come and sweep / mop take out the trash, wash my dirty dishes, change the sheets on the bed and swap my towels for new ones. I don't think you would find that in Medellin for $15.

Also a 30 pack of eggs at Big see is 126 baht ($3.81 usd). Last time I was at exito Aranjuez back in March I believe the 30 pack of eggs was $15,900 COP ($3.97 usd). A whole rotisserie chicken at Big see is 132 baht ($4 usd)​ while a rotisserie chicken at exito is $19,000 COP ($4.75 usd).

Transportation is also cheaper in Thailand with the baht bus costing just 10 baht (30 usd)​ and the Medellin​ metro costing 3280 COP (82 usd). ​

I will soon be venturing into the jungle into the northern Isaan region of Thailand to a town called Udon Thani which is 60 km from the Thailand / Laos border. Things are supposed to be alot cheaper up there than in Pattaya (which is basically a tourist destination) so maybe up there the price the women charge will be more closer to what prostitutes in Colombia charge. I will report my experiences in the corresponding sections.

I think the real place of interest in Southeast Asia that may be as cheap or even cheaper than Colombia is not Thailand at all but actually Jakarta, Indonesia. And I will be investigating the scene over there as well and I will report back on what I find.

GabachoOut.Udon Thani is significantly more expensive than Pattaya.

Gabacho
09-18-24, 05:19
The knock depends on the motel. In Bogota chick took me to one last night where we were literally in the room an hour and a half and nobody ever came knocking. 12,000 pesos. When we finally left out, I saw the guy sitting downstairs in a chair. I do not know if he was listening to music, sleep, or dead.

Other apples we can compare is disco freelancers. In Pattaya I 99% of the time pay $35 for long time. The most one should pay IMO is $60. I have seen reports here of some guys paying $90. (I do not think those guys negotiate.) What is a Gustos freelancer going to get a guy for long time when he takes them out of the club?Yea there's one called el tunnel that I regularly get longer than 30 mins and also at Hotel Botero Real in Medellin right by the Veracruz (not santa cruz, That's a estrato one barrio) church, I often get about 45 to 55 minutes before the knock comes. I stand by my comments that street prostitutes in Colombia are cheaper than street prostitutes (freelancers) on beach road Pattaya Thailand.

Balboa
09-18-24, 15:21

Also there was a debate on whether the girls in parque Lleras look better than the girls in el Centro and bases on what I saw majority are the same quality. Better clothing, better setting makes them look more attractive at night but I saw very good looking girls in el Centro on Friday and less attractive girls in Lleras on Sunday. Yeah the top girls of the parque are overall better but the other few hundreds under them aren't.Right on SB!

I agree 100 %!

Glad you got your phone back!

Good on you for giving a nice tip to the Uber guy!

Gilolo
09-18-24, 15:43
There are lovely girls everywhere in Medellin in El Centro or Parque Lleras, just need to find the good one at the goond time and who isn't busy with another customer.

But the difference between these 2 places is in El Centro 100% of the girls fuck bareback and are very cheap between 50 to 100 mil pesos and in Parque Lleras only 80% accept fuck bareback and are more expensive about 300 mil pesos.


Right on SB!

I agree 100 %!

Glad you got your phone back!

Good on you for giving a nice tip to the Uber guy!

Knowledge
09-18-24, 16:54
I think you can resolve balding issues by shaving your head. Given the choice, I would greatly prefer being more prone to balding than the Latin America condition of being more prone to be broke.


SB, Thanks for the info. Generally speaking, I agree with you. Not much I can do though about the hair. Not going with minoxidil or whatever. Most people think I am in my mid 40's, so I should be good for a while. I don't have any experience in Colombia yet, but I hope to visit soon. Thinking to go to Cali or Med. I go to Ecuador quite a bit and do alright down there.

Turgid
09-18-24, 16:57
Great Info! Thanks Gab.I agree. Also airfare will add to the Thailand expense overall.

LoveItHere69
09-18-24, 17:59
But the difference between these 2 places is in El Centro 100% of the girls fuck bareback.That is 100% wrong. My estimate is 70%.

GiraffyBoy
09-18-24, 19:21
I think you can resolve balding issues by shaving your head. Given the choice, I would greatly prefer being more prone to balding than the Latin America condition of being more prone to be broke.LOL. Agree. I keep what's left at about 2 mm. Too much work to shave.

GreenBud
09-18-24, 20:05
I stand by my comments that street prostitutes in Colombia are cheaper than street prostitutes (freelancers) on beach road Pattaya Thailand.Of course that's correct. I normally pay 100 K or 120 K for an hour in Colombia (Mr E probably can get it cheaper). It's still cheaper than Beach Road. And many of the better ones on Beach Road will ask for more (I can't negotiate).

Even though the SW, on the average, is better looking in Colombia than Thailand, I prefer (overall) Thailand over Colombia. Better food, more safe, better party zones, better weed, better vibes. Only thing is if you like coke. If you like coke, DO NOT go to Colombia.

Gabacho
09-18-24, 21:05
Of course that's correct. I normally pay 100 K or 120 K for an hour in Colombia (Mr E probably can get it cheaper). It's still cheaper than Beach Road. And many of the better ones on Beach Road will ask for more (I can't negotiate).

Even though the SW, on the average, is better looking in Colombia than Thailand, I prefer (overall) Thailand over Colombia. Better food, more safe, better party zones, better weed, better vibes. Only thing is if you like coke. If you like coke, DO NOT go to Colombia.I only like coke zero or as it's called in Colombia coca-cola sin azucar. Regular coke has way too much sugar in it and I prefer to eat my calories not to drink them.

Kazeu
09-19-24, 00:56
Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?



Monday it's my day to leave. I decide on one more Centro run and I'the see the girl from IG again. I like sex with many girls but I like stable energy around me as well. In Centro on Monday the girls weren't too hot so I decided to go less off of the overall rating and more so if she looks slutty. Enter the chubby Venezuelan with tongue ring and fatter ass. She has real green eyes too. Literally looked like she would eat me alive and I love that. She told me 50 mil. In my head I'm like wow but I say ok and we go to a short term hotel. Big girl with a big ass but her eyes really were captivating. If she got lipo and a BBL she'll be a problem. The sex wasn't particularly wild like the night before but it was satisfying. BBBJ and condom sex. Left Centro and returned to my place. Got cleaned, changed and IG girl came over. We went to a restaurant near the apartment where I was staying and we came back and had a pretty passionate session.

Tudman
09-19-24, 03:27
Guys there are many posts about webcam girls on here. I am attaching a link to a website that interviews the monitors who commit fraud everyday pretending to be the girls you are talking to on the platform and on WhatsApp. Yes it's so tempting, but the probabilities of you meeting up with one is ridiculously low, why waste your time, money and get frustrated. Enjoy!

https://restofworld.org/2022/colombias-webcam-industry-mentors/

Bango Cheito
09-19-24, 07:24
I live in Bogotá and mostly monger there but I'm in Medellíand on business this week.

I'm staying at an Airbnb in Centro. It's definitely sketchier than it used to be down here but you wouldn't catch me dead in Poblado, and much less in Lleras. To each his own, though.

I just went a few blocks away to Carrera 53 to a place called Hilton Grill. They have a little stage with a pole and the girls come up and do quick 5-minute shows where they get completely nude, then go around the tables soliciting tips. Some let you touch, others don't.

Ended up going to the back room with Jakillin, a tall slim Medellíand native. Absolutely amazing in bed, good solid 8 in the looks dept. 120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.

Mastov
09-19-24, 07:51
I live in Bogot and mostly monger there but I'm in Medelland on business this week.

I'm staying at an Airbnb in Centro. It's definitely sketchier than it used to be down here but you wouldn't catch me dead in Poblado, and much less in Lleras. To each his own, though.

I just went a few blocks away to Carrera 53 to a place called Hilton Grill. They have a little stage with a pole and the girls come up and do quick 5-minute shows where they get completely nude, then go around the tables soliciting tips. Some let you touch, others don't.

Ended up going to the back room with Jakillin, a tall slim Medelland native. Absolutely amazing in bed, good solid 8 in the looks dept. 120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.What are your thoughts on Bogota vs Medellin in terms of escorts, sugar babies and BBFS options?

Also do you feel outside of girls that Medellin is more laid back?

GiraffyBoy
09-19-24, 14:09
Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?Yes, I second that. I just posted a similar thread the other day. Just signed up for IG like yesterday or the day before.

Recondite
09-19-24, 14:23
The way to meet a webcam girl is not on her page. I speak from experience as I've met six girls who webcammed in person and chatted with a bunch more. Of those six I'd consider three successful, I. E. They make a full-time living webcamming and have been doing it for over a year. I've met most of these girls through their Facebook as well as through personal contacts. Some points to remember are.

1) for every successful webcam there are a lot more who tried and failed or don't have the discipline to be successful. These include some of the girls on the gringo prepago circuit.

2) It's a common job in Colombia. So it's not that hard to find them once you've talked to enough women online.

3) My approach has always been friendlier and chattier rather than businesslike as I like to see what I can get for free. I didn't even find out most had done webcam work until out on a date or at my place. In some cases, they've told me in chat and I just treat them like any other girl I'm talking to. It's simple advice but that's how to win over a stripper or any other type of sex worker. Treat them like normal, be friendly, treat their job like a normal one, and don't act like a client / fan.

4) They come in all shapes and sizes. Of the three successful ones I've been with two were more stereotypical with a bunch of plastic surgery and lots of enhancements while one was a slightly curvy girl next door type. They've told me stories of fat girls at their studios who make more money than they do, doing stuff like eating on camera.

5) A lot of them still want / need money and several hook on the side of webcamming. I was set up with one who happens to be one of the hottest women I've met in Medellin by an expat who lives in Medellin full-time. She was very selectively prepagoing, by reference only as a way to earn more money. She has 344 k followers on Instagram.

My goal for the next time I'm in Medellin is a pornstar, with bonus points for free. I've made contact with a few and have a very friendly chat going with a minor one so fingers crossed.


Guys there are many posts about webcam girls on here. I am attaching a link to a website that interviews the monitors who commit fraud everyday pretending to be the girls you are talking to on the platform and on WhatsApp.

BlueChange
09-20-24, 03:16
My goal for the next time I'm in Medellin is a pornstar, with bonus points for free. I've made contact with a few and have a very friendly chat going with a minor one so fingers crossed.I didn't realize it but over the years, especially the past two I've banged more pornstars here in med. The term "pornstar" to me is just any girl that fucks a guy on camera. There is a rising number of these girls that will fuck a couple times and that's it and then like 2 that will go the full porn route and eventually go to miami and La and go into the scene. There are several production houses and porn stars from the states that come here, book like 1 or 2 month in an airbnb or hotel and shoot content then put it up.

They are sourcing a LOT a of these girls off seeking and tin. I have banged 2 before they went and did a scene and spoke to them after and they regret it. One even didn't get paid!

That said, some other tips I can add if you really want to bang a porn star is type in Medellin into the search bar of the website and eventually with some googling you'll find girls with small following that will respond to "hey I'm here in Medellin you looking for some help?" but just don't come across as a fan. A lot of these girls also go to Mexico City and film up there for a month. I really couldn't belive it when a chick I banged like 2 years ago apeare on a video and I couldn't figure out why her though I knew her face, then BAM! Also the dude came toooo soon like me when I banged her! She must have magic puussssyy!

Happy hunting! DM me maybe I can connect.

MoonShot
09-20-24, 15:01
Hey SB! Great report man! Lots of detail and good stories. I'm just curious about how you pull girls off of IG? Its an avenue I've never tried before but it intrigues me with the possiblities. How do you go about finding the good looking girls there that might be open to the idea of P4 P?Most of the girls also have a Facebook account and vice versa. Many of the FB girls have an IG or social media account where they post pictures. I usually just ask to be friends with girls on Facebook and then see that they are on other social media platforms. Many of them are open to pay for play so you can just contact them on IG and then move them to WhatsApp and you can have a discussion about meeting up in Medellin along with negotiations about price.

TonyEm
09-20-24, 20:21
... place called Hilton Grill. ...120 k COP.

I really don't get paying 250-300 k for a girl here, much less 100 USD and up, anywhere in Colombia really. As always, YMMW.Just FYI the going rate there is about 80 k COP.

2 mil tip is customary in those clubs.

Cheers.