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Did San Diego Street scene last night. There are pretty girls there, but you need to be vigilant with ID's. Depending on how picky or drunk you are, checking an ID can do two things, it can tell you if the girl is of age, and it can also tell you if your girl is actually a girl. Many girls in that zone was given names like Fernando and Carlos at birth.
What great (on the ground) info. Man, you have a nice delivery of intel. This area is on my todo list (big time) come January. This is in my wheelhouse (whatever that means) , too bad you're not going to be around. Thanks to you and the others BMs w / this excellent intel. Grassyass
Member #4244
11-25-13, 16:37
Last night as in Sunday or Saturday? I didn't see much out there Sunday, just took a spin and came back to sleep. There are some of machas (transvestites) but they are really easy to spot and generally travel in packs. With few exceptions, the ladies are together and the lady boys are also together. Thursday-Saturday are the best days. It's not for the faint of heart or slight of Spanish, although the cabbies will help you generally.
SlamCity7777
11-25-13, 17:36
Last night as in Sunday or Saturday? I didn't see much out there Sunday, just took a spin and came back to sleep. There are some of machas (transvestites) but they are really easy to spot and generally travel in packs. With few exceptions, the ladies are together and the lady boys are also together. Thursday-Saturday are the best days. It's not for the faint of heart or slight of Spanish, although the cabbies will help you generally.Thanks for this string of reports. Very informative, helpful, and useful. Wilt for MVP!
RiceRocket99
11-25-13, 23:12
I know there isn't much info here on the non pro route considering all the different factors needed to make it work. So I tried my hand on it, this is just the beginning of my experience. I've been talking to this non pro girl for about 3 months on whatsapp and we made some good connection. I rented a studio apt from Bbrocs at Parque Lleras, very clean and convenient. Called the girl once I checked into the apt on Saturday and she came around 7pm. She's 25, just graduated from university, cute face, very short stature. We chilled at the apt and I gave her some gifts I promised, Victoria Secret gift set, a great way to girls happy with a quickness. While at the apt, her sister calls to check up on her to make sure everything was fine, so got that cleared up in no time.
We went out to dinner at Woka. This next part is literally straight out of a movie. So I'm eating with her, getting to know her more. She speaks very little English, so I basically spoke Spanish with her. Halfway through dinner, I notice a mansion chica come in with a gringo. I couldn't tell who she was, but after a closer look. It's a girl I've wifed up on my first MDE trip!
She couldn't see us from where we were eating, but I could see them. So my thoughts are let's finish eating and get the heck out! So the non pro girl goes to use the bathroom and I wait for her outside and low and behold. The mansion chica goes to the bathroom as well and obviously recognizes me and says a big Hola! Good thing There isn't much info here about the non pro route, which is understandable considering all the factors the non pro was already inside and once she got out, the coast was clear.
I didn't want to stay in Lleras and possibly get recognized. So she suggested going to her area in Envigado which I've never been. Very decent strip of nice discos and bars and we partied hard. No gringo in sight and being a chino, I stood out pretty easily. It's like she hasn't gone out in months because we both got hammered. Around 3am, we head back to my apt and I don't expect much to happen, just cuddle until she has to leave at 6am so she can get home before her parents wake up. But I'm sure the alcohol relaxed us and after a make out session, she asked if I had any condoms. To which I waited for a second and said Hell Yeah! Got to hit that on the first night, so far so good.
BTW. During the day, I hit up Blue Room. Went with a nice chica, Salome with big natural tits. Talent there was great. 8 chicas, at least 4 were doable. 100K for one hour. Got her name and plan on seeing her outside as well.
Right, Colombians still set the prices in the overwhelming majority of establishments here. Just go a few times and you will see that 90% of clients are Colombians. The local economy sets both the supply and demand sides. The flipside of that is that foreigners should be more observant and pay what the locals are paying more often. I don't think it's "inviting trouble" to pay more, but it's not necessary. I always say pay the standard rate, tip fairly for extras and great service.
The travel thing, just think about it, if you were comfortable, having fun and making money, what would the point be of traveling on someone else's terms so they can rail you three times a day while dragging you wherever they are going? The other end of that is that you should only take a girl you really feel comfortable with. Traveling with a girl is great but don't be pressed to do it. If she is not into it, just back off, it's best for both of you. Don't keep throwing money and pressure at the problem, you won't have a good result. If the girl actually likes you and wants to go where you're going, she won't give a shit about the terms outside of maybe some logistical stuff (paying babysitters, bills, whatever).I totally Agree about over paying these girls. I don't understand it.
I haven't been to Colombia yet, but I am trying to figure out why Guys are paying $40 and $50 a pop. I don't understand. That's what they charge right here in NYC, in Bkyn and Queens.
I'm trying to get my head around some recent posts. At bottom, John opines that he has access to the creme de la creme of the girls in Medellin, while acknowledging that Ricker, with his limitations, sometimes finds the gem, but obviously can't afford the best, like John does. This whole colloquy is way to close to the "my dick is bigger than yours" boasting. The fact is that there are gems everywhere in Medellin. What separates one from a meaningful relationship with a "gem" is not the wallet, but the heart. My assumption is that, biologically and emotionally, we would find sex much more pleasurable with an "8" that wants to give pleasure to sex with a mechanical "10."
I've been lucky enough to be able to provide several girls in Medellin with scholarships. I know about their lives, have met their families. And each of their mamas line up to invite me for dinner. All I feel is love from these girls, and their families. Sure, I've had some disappointments. A couple of the girls have not taken advantage of this opportunity, and dropped out of their respective universities. That hurt my heart bad, but no regrets about spending the money; that was my choice and I give with a giving heart.
My point is simply this: It's easier to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Obviously not everyone is in a position to do what I do, nor do they approach life as I do. We all decide to do what we do, and our attitude in our relationships with others. And, it's not all about spending large sums of money. It takes time and an interest in improving a girl's life; it's more than the lowest price for the most desirable service provider for a few hours or a night. Just think about it. Would you rather have passionate sex or passionate sex with intimacy? The choice is each of ours.
Only good energy, amigos.
Oh, and there will be at least one Paisa that will cry when you die, because she knew that you cared about her / them.I thought there were seasoned mongerers on this board. With these posts about guys trying to pay hundreds of US dollars and paying college tuition for several chicks.
You guys are are not mongerers.
I thought there were seasoned mongerers on this board. With these posts about guys trying to pay hundreds of US dollars and paying college tuition for several chicks.
You guys are are not mongerers.Thanks for the heads up Joe!
Glad you finally showed up and can show us how to be real mongers.
Once you actually make it to Colombia, you can set us straight with that as well.
Thank you.
Member #4244
11-26-13, 04:20
Yes, and please direct me to where I can bang a sexy 18 year old bareback in three holes for $40-$50 in New York City.
You know these girls and their mamas could care less about you right? Stop those "tuition" payments and see how many dinner invites you get buddy.
I totally Agree about over paying these girls. I don't understand it.
I haven't been to Colombia yet, but I am trying to figure out why Guys are paying $40 and $50 a pop. I don't understand. That's what they charge right here in NYC, in Bkyn and Queens.IN the U S 40 bucks gets you a skanky crack ho, In Colombia you might find a little princess that you can really feel good about helping out, And it can be great cause she's really helping you out as well, The U S crack-ho is out buying dope, The Colombian princess is trying to get through school, feed the kid her deadbeat boyfriend left her with, and possibly Supporting a sick Mom or grandmother, A lot of us don't mind over-paying cause it makes us feel good
Yes, and please direct me to where I can bang a sexy 18 year old bareback in three holes for $40-$50 in New York City.When you get the answer to that question, please pm me!
Legal Tender
11-26-13, 07:31
I thought there were seasoned mongerers on this board. With these posts about guys trying to pay hundreds of US dollars and paying college tuition for several chicks.
You guys are are not mongerers.
IN the U S 40 bucks gets you a skanky crack ho, In Colombia you might find a little princess that you can really feel good about helping out, And it can be great cause she's really helping you out as well, The U S crack-ho is out buying dope, The Colombian princess is trying to get through school, feed the kid her deadbeat boyfriend left her with, and possibly Supporting a sick Mom or grandmother, A lot of us don't mind over-paying cause it makes us feel goodI hate ambiguity. I suppose we are all mongers in a sense if we accept the common meaning of the term: one that consorts with sex workers. We start with the assumption that all women are not sex workers, a premiss with which I do not agree. Digressing, assuming, arguendo, that we are all mongers there are some that seek to exploit these beautiful girls without regard to them as human beings trying to make it though life, as we all are. Certainly, one that provides some tangible benefit in the form of an education can't be a monger. This would be undeniably true except your wholly under estimation of my contribution only provides more evidence that I'm not a monger. I'm over six figures in scholarships in the 5 years I've spend considerable time in Medellin. TweedleD isn't one either. Over paying and that makes you feel good, certainly won't get you into brother Rilla's monger circle. Count me out!
Only good energy! Karma's going to be a bit*h..
Legal Tender
11-26-13, 07:44
You know these girls and their mamas could care less about you right? Stop those "tuition" payments and see how many dinner invites you get buddy.Interesting reply. And partially correct. It depends on the person. Given the circumstances, I think you're probably right that if I stopped those "tuition" payments I not be cared about. And, there is a good reason. If I stopped the tuition payments, without good cause, it would be because I didn't care about them. On the other hand, one girl who had her scholarship revoked because of lack of seriousness to her studies, has gone her own way, but I had lunch with her mother, aunt and little brother within the last 10 days. I felt they cared about me, but I guess I was wrong.
Thanks for sitting me straight.
Only good energy, unhappy amigo.
Member #4287
11-26-13, 09:11
I've been lucky enough to be able to provide several girls in Medellin with scholarships. I know about their lives, have met their families. And each of their mamas line up to invite me for dinner. All I feel is love from these girls, and their families. Sure, I've had some disappointments. A couple of the girls have not taken advantage of this opportunity, and dropped out of their respective universities. That hurt my heart bad, but no regrets about spending the money; that was my choice and I give with a giving heart.
My point is simply this: It's easier to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Obviously not everyone is in a position to do what I do, nor do they approach life as I do. We all decide to do what we do, and our attitude in our relationships with others. And, it's not all about spending large sums of money. It takes time and an interest in improving a girl's life; it's more than the lowest price for the most desirable service provider for a few hours or a night. Just think about it. Would you rather have passionate sex or passionate sex with intimacy? The choice is each of ours.
Only good energy, amigos.
Oh, and there will be at least one Paisa that will cry when you die, because she knew that you cared about her / them.I understand where you are coming from. The whole reason I started into the P4P scene is because I do not want a full time girlfriend in Colombia anymore while spending more than half my time in the USA
But that is easier said than done. Once you start repeatedly sleeping with your favorites night after night it is hard not to develop feelings for them. Especially when you negotiate a very favorable weekly or monthly rate because they are with you so much of the time and you aren't paying them every day. So it really does seem like she is your girlfriend or live in lover. Some guys go for the girlfriend experience but in Colombia it really doesn't cost that much more to have the wife experience.
Most of the girls that are willing to substantially lower their normal price and sleep with you long term do like you on some level otherwise it wouldn't work out and they often try to lower the cost even more by getting you to pay tuition or rent to have access to her for even longer periods of time.
But the truth is that any chick that requires a certain sum of financial compensation in exchange for sex no matter how trivial it seems based on your personal finances is never really your girlfriend. I have told more than one prepago to quit trying to make me (or any monger) your boyfriend and I would suggest that you stop trying to make these girls something they are not.
If you spend an appreciable amount of time in Colombia it is not hard to find plenty of really nice young women that would sleep with you for nothing if you portrayed yourself as a serious person looking for a serious relationship. Once you find the ones that repeatedly give it up for nothing then start thinking about helping them out if it makes you feel good. They certainly will need the money more and appreciate it more than the chick selling her ass on the side.
I understand where you are coming from. The whole reason I started into the P4P scene is because I do not want a full time girlfriend in Colombia anymore while spending more than half my time in the USA
But that is easier said than done. Once you start repeatedly sleeping with your favorites night after night it is hard not to develop feelings for them. Especially when you negotiate a very favorable weekly or monthly rate because they are with you so much of the time and you aren't paying them every day. So it really does seem like she is your girlfriend or live in lover. Some guys go for the girlfriend experience but in Colombia it really doesn't cost that much more to have the wife experience.
Most of the girls that are willing to substantially lower their normal price and sleep with you long term do like you on some level otherwise it wouldn't work out and they often try to lower the cost even more by getting you to pay tuition or rent to have access to her for even longer periods of time.
But the truth is that any chick that requires a certain sum of financial compensation in exchange for sex no matter how trivial it seems based on your personal finances is never really your girlfriend. I have told more than one prepago to quit trying to make me (or any monger) your boyfriend and I would suggest that you stop trying to make these girls something they are not.
If you spend an appreciable amount of time in Colombia it is not hard to find plenty of really nice young women that would sleep with you for nothing if you portrayed yourself as a serious person looking for a serious relationship. Once you find the ones that repeatedly give it up for nothing then start thinking about helping them out if it makes you feel good. They certainly will need the money more and appreciate it more than the chick selling her ass on the side.
In the USA if you do not pay your way, you are out! You are out of your house, your car, and all your pussy. The difference of "monger or not a monger" is when you pay for the pussy. If you pay before or after the deed you're a monger. If you pay some time during the day or night, you're a monger. If you're on this board discussing sex in any and all regards you're a monger. There is no grey area. If you're on these boards to get info, and then travel away from your homeland to enjoy casual sex w / strange women, sorry but, You're a Monger! Jaja
As they say in certain parts of every town,"dems the rules".
I send some of these Colombianas money from time to time and it's unconditional. When I return and see them I will not bring up any gifts, I will pay them the going rate for their time.
We can develop a close tie in this arrangement but they are the ones living their lives in a really terrible economic environment so I don't judge their methods of survival unless it's underhanded.
When I go to the Philippines and watch 20 girls dancing on stage hoping for a customer to take them for a drink so they can sit for 20 minutes, I sometimes fixate on the homely girl dancing on the side in the darker area.
I think wow what a brave little babe to hang in there and give it her best. I am just so impressed by these sights but of course I take the girl that I connect w / in other ways but still there is a lot to respect about the average sex worker.
To close my opinion out I will say I'm surprised to hear such intelligent guys here stating they are not mongers because of some unusual system of patronage.
What's next I wonder? Jaja
Member #4287
11-26-13, 20:16
To close my opinion out I will say I'm surprised to hear such intelligent guys here stating they are not mongers because of some unusual system of patronage.
What's next I wonder? JajaIt is almost as entertaining to listen to a prepago try and convince you that she isn't really a sex worker anymore because she has some how made it to the status of "kept woman" who only sleeps with one guy. Conveniently forgetting that she is being paid for the exclusive rights to her pussy.
SavePros321
11-26-13, 20:23
The difference of "monger or not a monger" is when you pay for the pussy. If you pay before or after the deed you're a monger. If you pay some time during the day or night, you're a monger. If you're on this board discussing sex in any and all regards you're a monger. There is no grey area. If you're on these boards to get info, and then travel away from your homeland to enjoy casual sex w / strange women, sorry but, You're a Monger! JajaThis needs to be pinned to the top of this forum!
I liked RiceRocket's story about netting some nookie from a "non-pro", but it still reminded me of all the hoops you would have to jump through just to get some (dinner, taxi, disco, drinks). Even after all of that, there still wasn't any promise of her giving him any sex at the end of the night. But like Socker said, you end up paying for it one way or the other. All depends on when you decide to pay (before or after).
Dates are usually an upfront investment with no guarantees of anything. If you have the time and patience then by all means go for it. I'm still not sold on the concept of paying ho's a retainer fee (or "tuition"); especially if I am not there getting my fill and money's worth on a daily basis. All money flows end once I board the airplane back to the US.
RiceRocket99
11-26-13, 20:58
Saw the non-pro again last night for dinner, but I agree that even though I didn't directly pay her for sex, the money I spent on dinner, drinks, taxi, gifts can add up to more than getting with a mansion / fb chica straight up. But at least I get to connect with her on a personal level and it's not all about sex / business. It was 'actual dating' however you want to define it. It's a whole different experience, but either way, I pay directly or indirectly. Planning a weekend getway at Guatape.
OTOH, I called up the Blue Room chica Salome, out for late night drinks after the non-pro left. Every place pretty much dead on a Monday night, so didn't have many options. I agree MDE doesn't get going until Thursday, so Sun-Wed could be tough in finding decent places to rumba. And usually Sundays / Mondays are recovery days for the chicas with that guayabo (hangover). Anyways, get back to my apt and she gets a bit freaky and watches porn on my laptop for a good 30 minutes. So obviously, that turned me on and unexpectedly, during our session she asks if I want to do anal, which of course I had to oblige. She leaves around 2am and I pay her 100K plus taxi. I didn't even negotiate pricing, but she was happy with it and even wants to see me again later tonight for some Tuesday salsa night somewhere. So I'll see if tonight would be as dead as Monday.
This needs to be pinned to the top of this forum!
I liked RiceRocket's story about netting some nookie from a "non-pro", but it still reminded me of all the hoops you would have to jump through just to get some (dinner, taxi, disco, drinks). Even after all of that, there still wasn't any promise of her giving him any sex at the end of the night. But like Socker said, you end up paying for it one way or the other. All depends on when you decide to pay (before or after).
Dates are usually an upfront investment with no guarantees of anything. If you have the time and patience then by all means go for it. I'm still not sold on the concept of paying ho's a retainer fee (or "tuition") ; especially if I am not there getting my fill and money's worth on a daily basis. All money flows end once I board the airplane back to the US.
In the USA if you do not pay your way, you are out! You are out of your house, your car, and all your pussy. The difference of "monger or not a monger" is when you pay for the pussy. If you pay before or after the deed you're a monger. If you pay some time during the day or night, you're a monger. If you're on this board discussing sex in any and all regards you're a monger. There is no grey area. If you're on these boards to get info, and then travel away from your homeland to enjoy casual sex w / strange women, sorry but, You're a Monger! Jaja
What's next I wonder? JajaAlso agree. I don't get all these posts about "freebies" and "non-pros." If you are a visiting foreigner into any punting destination country, than you are punting. Now, I am not saying that true love can't happen, or that casual sex can't happen. But if you think that she is in love with you, chances are that she just plays the role well. That is her profession, and GFE is the coin of the realm. Whether you pay her in cash everytime, or whether she is trading for the possibility of getting out of the country in the future, you ARE paying.
Just read through the forums in any country. They are littered with stories of guys who get taken after buying in hook, line, and sinker. Nothing wrong with having fun. Both parties benefit. Just don't lose your perspective. Its human nature to think that, "well I'm different. That won't happen to me." Unrequited love is sad enough as it is, even without the financial con.
Member #4244
11-27-13, 00:03
don't play me too close, i won't pimp you too hard as too short would say.
my only piece of advice is not to "invest." don't give a girl a big chunk up front expecting it to pay off long term in "freebies" or a discounted rate of some sort. square everything up front. i once paid 8, 000, 000 pesos to a girl, but after we went on a 45-day trip where i banged her in the ass raw three or four times a day and with plans (that she actually completed, surprisingly) to do it again for a little over a month on my next break. if you do the math on that, it's a pretty spectacular deal. $50 usd a day for all access, no holes barred sex with a very beautiful girl. you can't get an apartment for that kind of money in some cities, let alone tight little asshole to live inside.
avoid the bullshit of "pay me 'tuition' (or bill or whatever) that's due today and i'll come over and fuck you every day." make sure you pay up front only if you're about to get something right then and there, and if it's a long term deal then either pay in installments or a balloon on the back end once she has held up her end. it sucks to have to think about things this way, but trust me, they already are. only after very strong trust is established do i think this could work, and even then it's iffy. if they have the payoff in hand, they are not going to work their ass for it. knowing that the big pay day (and potentially more) is at stake will keep them on their toes.
this is not some rep001hing indictment of colombians either. there are people like this in every country and in some it is the norm. it's just one's way of being and some cases it's even practical (emphasis on some).
i guess i have a second piece of advice and that is to recognize that latinos and colombians in particular are more "in love with being in love" and more effusive in their language than most (read: all). these girls will jump to "i adore you" in a heartbeat and even if they think they are sincere, it means very little. if i were to say something like that, it would carry some weight and consequence, but surprisingly it does not to them. i am not sure how to articulate this but you will feel it. they will be ready to go to the end of the universe with you, but they will also stand you up without notice the following night.
i have had a couple of real relationships here, but they are absolutely dwarfed by the number of fake ones. just think of the scene in "the matrix" where the bald guy is talking about how he knows the steak on his plate is not real, but it still tastes delicious. that pretty much summarizes this hobby in colombia, if not the entire world.
Yes, and please direct me to where I can bang a sexy 18 year old bareback in three holes for $40-$50 in New York City.I am in Miami and the only girl you get for 40/50 is a street walker that is cracked out. You must be losing it to think that there are "gems" in NYC! If I can't get a hot Latina here in Miami for 50 then I know it's impossible to get that in NYC. I have been to Colombia many times over the past three years and 50 will get you about an hour or two with a model type Latina. Here in MIA if I wanted a model Cuban Latina I am spending 300-500 por una hora! Screw that! I rather go to Colombia, find a beautiful drop dead gorgeous girl, spend 50 and take every hole she offers for an hour and have her treat me like I am her long lost novio. You need to visit Colombia before you past judgement on how we spend our money.
For those that think a novia is simply in love for love and doesn't ask for money. Yeah right! I had a fiance in Barranquilla for two years. I am young but she was younger. She didn't work because (it's not easy finding a job). Then she got a job, and started fucking her boss. Bye bye chica! $$$ rules most lives in Colombia regardless with how it is obtained. I've learned one thing, love can be found but if you have to invest any type of money or gifts then it is not love. Period! My fiance never asked me for money and never asked for gifts. But when the opportunity arose for a real chance at a job she screwed her way into the job. Now she hates her new jefe / novio and she is stuck working for him if she wants to keep her job. LMAO. Sucks for her but don't crawl back.
Returning to Medellin in Enero for my 37th cumpleanos. Looking to have some serious fun. Since this is my first real official time in Medellin as a single guy I am going to enjoy my two weeks.
Don't play me too close, I won't pimp you too hard as Too Short would say.
I have had a couple of real relationships here, but they are absolutely dwarfed by the number of fake ones. Just think of the scene in "The Matrix" where the bald guy is talking about how he knows the steak on his plate is not real, but it still tastes delicious. That pretty much summarizes this hobby in Colombia, if not the entire world.A Too Short reference and a genius tie-in to the Matrix (which does sum it all up BTW). Well done sir!
This reeks of fantasy.
I know there isn't much info here on the non pro route considering all the different factors needed to make it work. So I tried my hand on it, this is just the beginning of my experience. I've been talking to this non pro girl for about 3 months on whatsapp and we made some good connection. I rented a studio apt from Bbrocs at Parque Lleras, very clean and convenient. Called the girl once I checked into the apt on Saturday and she came around 7pm. She's 25, just graduated from university, cute face, very short stature. We chilled at the apt and I gave her some gifts I promised, Victoria Secret gift set, a great way to girls happy with a quickness. While at the apt, her sister calls to check up on her to make sure everything was fine, so got that cleared up in no time.
We went out to dinner at Woka. This next part is literally straight out of a movie. So I'm eating with her, getting to know her more. She speaks very little English, so I basically spoke Spanish with her. Halfway through dinner, I notice a mansion chica come in with a gringo. I couldn't tell who she was, but after a closer look. It's a girl I've wifed up on my first MDE trip!
She couldn't see us from where we were eating, but I could see them. So my thoughts are let's finish eating and get the heck out! So the non pro girl goes to use the bathroom and I wait for her outside and low and behold. The mansion chica goes to the bathroom as well and obviously recognizes me and says a big Hola! Good thing There isn't much info here about the non pro route, which is understandable considering all the factors the non pro was already inside and once she got out, the coast was clear.
I didn't want to stay in Lleras and possibly get recognized. So she suggested going to her area in Envigado which I've never been. Very decent strip of nice discos and bars and we partied hard. No gringo in sight and being a chino, I stood out pretty easily. It's like she hasn't gone out in months because we both got hammered. Around 3am, we head back to my apt and I don't expect much to happen, just cuddle until she has to leave at 6am so she can get home before her parents wake up. But I'm sure the alcohol relaxed us and after a make out session, she asked if I had any condoms. To which I waited for a second and said Hell Yeah! Got to hit that on the first night, so far so good.
BTW. During the day, I hit up Blue Room. Went with a nice chica, Salome with big natural tits. Talent there was great. 8 chicas, at least 4 were doable. 100K for one hour. Got her name and plan on seeing her outside as well.
Just to let everyone know, Geraldine, s Facebook page is back up. I just got back from San Jose, now making my plans for Feb MDE trip!
A Too Short reference and a genius tie-in to the Matrix (which does sum it all up BTW). Well done sir!Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM
A Too Short reference and a genius tie-in to the Matrix (which does sum it all up BTW). Well done sir!Agree. That Matrix scene is a perfect and funny analogy. I'll have to break that out with friends over beers someday!
And by the way, its not to say that giving ANYTHING to girls is "payment." I don't think that anyone means to be THAT reductionist. Small gifts are fine. If you are in the US, small gifts are just part of the dating process. And buying small gifts or taking them out to dinner can make YOU feel good if it makes you feel like a man and fuels the illusion.
I am just saying to not lose perspective. A woman from another culture that you have difficulty conversing with due to a language barrier instantly falls in love with you at a pick up bar and lets you have all kinds of funky sex after a few hours / days? C'mon man!
A woman from another culture that you have difficulty conversing with due to a language barrier instantly falls in love with you at a pick up bar and lets you have all kinds of funky sex after a few hours / days? C'mon man!Well, that IS pretty much why all of us travel to Medellin
Well, that IS pretty much why all of us travel to MedellinBy all means enjoy it! Just don't believe it.
By all means enjoy it! Just don't believe it.I do enjoy it, and I believe all these girls really do fall in love with me, I mean why wouldn't they? To them, I look a hell of a lot like an ATM machine!
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 08:06
don't play me too close, i won't pimp you too hard as too short would say.
my only piece of advice is not to "invest." don't give a girl a big chunk up front expecting it to pay off long term in "freebies" or a discounted rate of some sort. square everything up front. i once paid 8, 000, 000 pesos to a girl, but after we went on a 45-day trip where i banged her in the ass raw three or four times a day and with plans (that she actually completed, surprisingly) to do it again for a little over a month on my next break. if you do the math on that, it's a pretty spectacular deal. $50 usd a day for all access, no holes barred sex with a very beautiful girl. you can't get an apartment for that kind of money in some cities, let alone tight little asshole to live inside.
avoid the bullshit of "pay me 'tuition' (or bill or whatever) that's due today and i'll come over and fuck you every day." make sure you pay up front only if you're about to get something right then and there, and if it's a long term deal then either pay in installments or a balloon on the back end once she has held up her end. it sucks to have to think about things this way, but trust me, they already are. only after very strong trust is established do i think this could work, and even then it's iffy. if they have the payoff in hand, they are not going to work their ass for it. knowing that the big pay day (and potentially more) is at stake will keep them on their toes.
this is not some rep001hing indictment of colombians either. there are people like this in every country and in some it is the norm. it's just one's way of being and some cases it's even practical (emphasis on some).
i guess i have a second piece of advice and that is to recognize that latinos and colombians in particular are more "in love with being in love" and more effusive in their language than most (read: all). these girls will jump to "i adore you" in a heartbeat and even if they think they are sincere, it means very little. if i were to say something like that, it would carry some weight and consequence, but surprisingly it does not to them. i am not sure how to articulate this but you will feel it. they will be ready to go to the end of the universe with you, but they will also stand you up without notice the following night.
i have had a couple of real relationships here, but they are absolutely dwarfed by the number of fake ones. just think of the scene in "the matrix" where the bald guy is talking about how he knows the steak on his plate is not real, but it still tastes delicious. that pretty much summarizes this hobby in colombia, if not the entire world.my advice is to "invest." obviously, the opportunity to do that in colombia is ever present, but investment in a girl's life gives some purpose to one's existence instead of just getting the most bang for the buck, so to speak. invest without expectation or what's in it for you. these girls live a difficult existence. with the minimum wage a little more than $350. per month, almost any help and interest results in a desire to give physical pleasure. let's hope that life has not denigrated to a feeling of accomplishment in getting the most sex for the least amount of plata. just take a little pleasure in making someone's life a little better. a little more stable. a little less stressful.
don't confuse what any of these girls say, with your own expectations. who knows what they mean? none of us are mind-readers. i assume that everyone means what they say, when they say it. it's all ephemeral. what ever the emotion of the moment, it just exists for the moment. and, commitments are easy to agree to, but almost impossible to follow. do what you can and what you want. regardless of her choices, you made yours and accept responsibility for them. it's a no lose situation unless one want to play the victim when expectations are not met. what we do or don't do is our choice. do something with an open heart.
it leads to only good energy.
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 08:10
I do enjoy it, and I believe all these girls really do fall in love with me, I mean why wouldn't they? To them, I look a hell of a lot like an ATM machine!Tweedle hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Like an amigo of mine commented: "there is no doubt, the thicker my wallet, the better looking I become. Simple truth: they have what we want, and we have what they need.
Simple truth: they have what we want, and we have what they need.This is no accident, this is nature's intent in helping our specie's much weaker female. Procreation is just one purpose of sex, the other is leverage.
They got what we need and we want them to be happy giving it to us.
Nature is never wrong.
Cheers.
Can a senior member send me a pm with some info on FB girls so I can do some homework and contact prior to my arrival in January? Would be greatly appreciative.
Member #4244
11-28-13, 14:52
My advice is to "invest." Obviously, the opportunity to do that in Colombia is ever present, but investment in a girl's life gives some purpose to one's existence instead of just getting the most bang for the buck, so to speak. Invest without expectation or what's in it for you. These girls live a difficult existence. With the minimum wage a little more than $350. Per month, almost any help and interest results in a desire to give physical pleasure. Let's hope that life has not denigrated to a feeling of accomplishment in getting the most sex for the least amount of plata. Just take a little pleasure in making someone's life a little better. A little more stable. A little less stressful.
Don't confuse what any of these girls say, with your own expectations. Who knows what they mean? None of us are mind-readers. I assume that everyone means what they say, when they say it. It's all ephemeral. What ever the emotion of the moment, it just exists for the moment. And, commitments are easy to agree to, but almost impossible to follow. Do what you can and what you want. Regardless of her choices, you made yours and accept responsibility for them. It's a no lose situation unless one want to play the victim when expectations are not met. What we do or don't do is our choice. Do something with an open heart.
It leads to only good energy.Yes, I think I read a story in Philanthropy magazine about all the great men with open hearts and minds that exchange a few hundred bucks to fuck some girl's brains out. Jesus, dude, get over yourself. I actually help a ton of people down here, but I'm not looking for a purpose in life doing it. Nor do I follow some oddball moral relativism that makes me think that taking advantage of economic disparity makes me a great guy or that pardons every insincere stunt from a girl looking to pay for everything in life with the same coin. You've also got to consider that your precious advice is useless for 99% of people reading this. This is a place to help and share with others, to enhance their experience when they come to have fun for a little while.
Yes, I think I read a story in Philanthropy magazine about all the great men with open hearts and minds that exchange a few hundred bucks to fuck some girl's brains out. Jesus, dude, get over yourself. I actually help a ton of people down here, but I'm not looking for a purpose in life doing it. Nor do I follow some oddball moral relativism that makes me think that taking advantage of economic disparity makes me a great guy or that pardons every insincere stunt from a girl looking to pay for everything in life with the same coin. You've also got to consider that your precious advice is useless for 99% of people reading this. This is a place to help and share with others, to enhance their experience when they come to have fun for a little while.I know a girl that is getting a free university ride that lives in Medellin. She never even met the guy in person that lives in the US. They met via a friend online and they talk daily but he has paid her way into school. Very generous. She calls him her boyfriend and surprisingly, she has never had another boyfriend since meeting this guy. He is like 30 now and she is 19 and they met 4 years ago and she actually thinks she is in love. I talk to her often because we are friends and though I would love to hit it because she is a virgin, she is crazy in love with this gringo that helps her. I asked her why he has never in 4 years visited and she says that he has no time to leave work and no money. I shake my head because this girl is so damn beautiful and sweet and she thinks that her life should revolve around the guy. That is an example of a girl brainwashed by love. Ay Dios Mio. But, I do understand the member on here wanting to help with education. If you have the money and you enjoy helping others less fortunate then that is awesome. The icing on the cake is if you can help them and when you are visiting you get some hot sex then even better. I personally don't make that type of money to pay for a girls college but if I did and if it wouldn't hurt my lifestyle then it would be nice.
SavePros321
11-28-13, 15:24
My advice is to "invest." Obviously, the opportunity to do that in Colombia is ever present, but investment in a girl's life gives some purpose to one's existence instead of just getting the most bang for the buck, so to speak. Invest without expectation or what's in it for you. These girls live a difficult existence. With the minimum wage a little more than $350. Per month, almost any help and interest results in a desire to give physical pleasure. Let's hope that life has not denigrated to a feeling of accomplishment in getting the most sex for the least amount of plata. Just take a little pleasure in making someone's life a little better. A little more stable. A little less stressful.This is very noble of you. Your charity definitely does not go unnoticed, as it definitely makes the mongerer's (or the Colombiano male's) job just a tad bit easier.
Hey, didn't you have to suspend tuition payments to one of your ho's when you found out that another monger was enjoying the fruits of your labor?:
So I am in on the creep, I find this girl, a cute one I offer her 80k pesos. Take her back to the apartment bang her, takes my full load, get her FB page. Later that day I get her to add me as a friend. Later that night she posts with her smart phone with AK and they are making out in the pic, I am thinking how does my dick taste? LMAO. Just for the hell of it I click on his name like who is this dork? A handsome fellow I must say, says CEO of T@# lives in Florida, holy shit it is Legal Tender! I just banged his novia! Not that that is a first I must say, but to you bastards screwing mine, fuck you guys! LMAO
They don't need to be concerned with the Hillbilly's of this world because of financial reasons; none are party girls, and I do not attempt to exercise any control over their private lives. I have asked that if they have sex with someone else that they use a condom. Life is not risk free, but none of them would risk pregnancy with a local novio. Having had a vasectomy has proven to be a good choice.
LT novia's lips were strawberry flavored from my cock lube anyway, can I have a ride on your helicopter too LT?
NO, you cannot.
Member #4244
11-28-13, 16:42
I am in Miami and the only girl you get for 40/50 is a street walker that is cracked out. You must be losing it to think that there are "gems" in NYC! If I can't get a hot Latina here in Miami for 50 then I know it's impossible to get that in NYC. I have been to Colombia many times over the past three years and 50 will get you about an hour or two with a model type Latina. Here in MIA if I wanted a model Cuban Latina I am spending 300-500 por una hora! Screw that! I rather go to Colombia, find a beautiful drop dead gorgeous girl, spend 50 and take every hole she offers for an hour and have her treat me like I am her long lost novio. You need to visit Colombia before you past judgement on how we spend our money.
For those that think a novia is simply in love for love and doesn't ask for money. Yeah right! I had a fiance in Barranquilla for two years. I am young but she was younger. She didn't work because (it's not easy finding a job). Then she got a job, and started fucking her boss. Bye bye chica! $$$ rules most lives in Colombia regardless with how it is obtained. I've learned one thing, love can be found but if you have to invest any type of money or gifts then it is not love. Period! My fiance never asked me for money and never asked for gifts. But when the opportunity arose for a real chance at a job she screwed her way into the job. Now she hates her new jefe / novio and she is stuck working for him if she wants to keep her job. LMAO. Sucks for her but don't crawl back.
Returning to Medellin in Enero for my 37th cumpleanos. Looking to have some serious fun. Since this is my first real official time in Medellin as a single guy I am going to enjoy my two weeks.If you read carefully, I was responding to a post below where some numbnuts was talking about prices of $40-$50 in the States and why we shouldn't pay that much in Colombia.
Sorry to hear about your BAQ novia but asi es la vida. I hope you got plenty of good emotions and great sex out of it. You know that, in the end, you've got a fuck ton of options and she has very few. Enjoy the trip to MDE and your birthday celebration.
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 18:05
Hey, didn't you have to suspend tuition payments to one of your ho's when you found out that another monger was enjoying the fruits of your labor?:No. I stopped tuition payments for a couple of girls over the last several years because they were not succeeding academically. The fruits of my labor are independent, educated and successful young women. In their private lives, they can do whatever they want. I don't care; that is nothing that I have control over nor does it really interest me.
You've also got to consider that your precious advice is useless for 99% of people reading this. This is a place to help and share with others, to enhance their experience when they come to have fun for a little while.I don't know about your self created statistics, but we can certainly agree my approach has no validity for you. The approach that I follow and advocate does "enhance their experience when they come to have fun for a little while."
If you read carefully, I was responding to a post below where some numbnuts was talking about prices of $40-$50 in the States and why we shouldn't pay that much in Colombia.
Sorry to hear about your BAQ novia but asi es la vida. I hope you got plenty of good emotions and great sex out of it. You know that, in the end, you've got a fuck ton of options and she has very few. Enjoy the trip to MDE and your birthday celebration.Sorry Wilt, I quoted the wrong guy. It was the numbnut that you were replying to. The guy with absolutely no experience in Colombia. He comes on here and brags about his $50 working girls in NYC being a bargain. And yeah, great emotions, memories, and fantastic sex. She was begging me to cancel my trip to MED and fly to barranquilla instead so she can apologize to me and beg for my return. NO HAPPENING! I'll take my chances having a fun time as a single guy in Med instead. Tempted to post some pics of her on the photo board for Colombia since technically she is for sale.
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 18:16
I actually help a ton of people down here, but I'm not looking for a purpose in life doing it.I'm sorry. The Buddha teaches that our purpose in life is to ease the suffering of others. With emphasis on "purpose." What I write is not for self-aggrandizement. I know who I am, and I'm just as flawed as the next dude. I just share what has brought a lot of satisfaction, purpose and pleasure to me.
Only good energy, amigo!
Member #4244
11-28-13, 18:56
I'm sorry. The Buddha teaches that our purpose in life is to ease the suffering of others. With emphasis on "purpose." What I write is not for self-aggrandizement. I know who I am, and I'm just as flawed as the next dude. I just share what has brought a lot of satisfaction, purpose and pleasure to me.
Only good energy, amigo!What does the Buddha teach you about coming to another country to fuck girls a third your age for money? Shove it up your ass, Richard Gere. If you wanted to do good and ease suffering, you'd start the Little Lebowski Urban Achievers. Instead, you come to a notorious mongering destination and look for hot girls interested in an exchange of money for sex, which you complicate to make yourself feel special. I've been down here a while, I see all the archetypes, man. I'm not even that dissimilar to you, but I'm not half as deluded ... which is saying something!
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 19:05
What does the Buddha teach you about coming to another country to fuck girls a third your age for money? Shove it up your ass, Richard Gere.Anger and defensiveness does not put you in a good light, grasshopper. I do have compassion for you, though. It must have taken some painful experiences in your life to be so protective and self centered in your outlook. I would suggest that you shove it up your ass, but that kind of response is not productive, and besides, you'd enjoy that too much. Just kidding.
Member #4244
11-28-13, 19:16
Anger and defensiveness does not put you in a good light, grasshopper. I do have compassion for you, though. It must have taken some painful experiences in your life to be so protective and self centered in your outlook. I would suggest that you shove it up your ass, but that kind of response is not productive, and besides, you'd enjoy that too much. Just kidding.And you must have more money than fucking brains. Congratulations. I have plenty of both and I try to seek a balance.
Way to avoid the issue at hand, by the way, that all your wonderful philanthropy seems to revolve around erections. Surely there is no one in the United States in need of your help and financial support, nor could you just send the money. No you NEED to deliver it to Colombia personally along with a couple drops of dusty old man ejaculation. That is totally necessary in order to right the wrongs in this world!
Hilarious! Why is it things are going along fairly civil, and the this stuff comes along?
Legal Tender
11-28-13, 19:50
And you must have more money than fucking brains. Congratulations. I have plenty of both and I try to seek a balance.
Way to avoid the issue at hand, by the way, that all your wonderful philanthropy seems to revolve around erections. Surely there is no one in the United States in need of your help and financial support, nor could you just send the money. No you NEED to deliver it to Colombia personally along with a couple drops of dusty old man ejaculation. That is totally necessary in order to right the wrongs in this world!I've, thorough my foundation, provided an education (including law school for one) for two young men from Malawi. Also, I've given scholarships to several students in the USA, but my feeling is that in the USA there are ways to achieve educational goals by yourself. Lots of grants, loans, etc. Wilt, you're becoming a bore. You are dismissed.
Member #4244
11-28-13, 20:18
Cool, did the kids from Malawi blow you, too? No one's impressed. Since I'm "dismissed" I guess I will fuck off and let you have the last word. Please regale us with more ho-saving tales and why the average monger should put up with all these extra strings for a "sense of purpose." I am sure dozens will follow your advice.
I know a girl that is getting a free university ride that lives in Medellin. She never even met the guy in person that lives in the US. They met via a friend online and they talk daily but he has paid her way into school. Very generous. She calls him her boyfriend and surprisingly, she has never had another boyfriend since meeting this guy. He is like 30 now and she is 19 and they met 4 years ago and she actually thinks she is in love. I talk to her often because we are friends and though I would love to hit it because she is a virgin, she is crazy in love with this gringo that helps her. I asked her why he has never in 4 years visited and she says that he has no time to leave work and no money. I shake my head because this girl is so damn beautiful and sweet and she thinks that her life should revolve around the guy. That is an example of a girl brainwashed by love. Ay Dios Mio. But, I do understand the member on here wanting to help with education. If you have the money and you enjoy helping others less fortunate then that is awesome. The icing on the cake is if you can help them and when you are visiting you get some hot sex then even better. I personally don't make that type of money to pay for a girls college but if I did and if it wouldn't hurt my lifestyle then it would be nice.Wow! Now that is extreme! A novio for 4 years and have never met in person.
I hope at least they video chat LOL.
SlamCity7777
11-28-13, 23:05
Wow! Now that is extreme! A novio for 4 years and have never met in person.
I hope at least they video chat LOL.My dos pesos. I've been in my fair share of flame battles so I can't judge those involved but I will say everybody has a valid point.
Do what ever you like and who cares what the next man thinks? Dude ain't got to walk in my shoes, pay my bills, worry about my troubles, so why care who the next guy is? Some dudes love cheap cheap pussy, right on. Some guys like the GFE or from the sounds of it Wifey Exp. Right on.
I've wifey up a few working girls before my time. It's hard to not get jealous, it's hard to have guys come here and talk shit about a girl you care about (if that is the case). Being cool and not cheap is my theme song in life and not with just these working girls. A few times I had great months with huge commission checks (IMO and for the time, some of ya'll might have taller stacks) so what's a Western Union to me? $150 is nothing to me. That's like one new shirt, two hands of black jack, a round of drinks. To Working girl it's rent, bills, her kids school, her moms pills. So fudge it. I offered, she accepted and we both felt happy. Yes I've had girl try to play me. And yes I've fallen for it! Most everybody what has had a girlfriend foreign or domestic has had been in a money situation with a girl. It's a part of life. That's part of the game. Either you're playing the game or being played. If you don't know which you're doing then you being played.
Just because the next man thinks you're a chump. Good for him. Just because the next man wants to send Wendy to College. Good for him. No matter to me because I ain't the next man, I can only be me. I have a novia. A real novia. At fist I was worried she was catting around on me, I learned to trust her and I think she turns the blind eye to me sneaking off every one a week when I visit. Do I help her out with bills? Yep. Casue she's my girl. NOT because I'm getting played or I'm trying to feel like King of the world. But because I feel it's the right thing to do. This girl is special to me. An amazing girl who I honestly feel I can trust.
"Do what you feel" Slim Charles "The Wire"
Once again I've flame battled many guys here so yeah I know how odd it sounds coming from me! LOL!
About the story I quoted.
Dude that makes Manti To'e thing seem plausible! So many questions and things that don't seem to add up. 4 years and he's never come down for a visit? Granted we don't have the same number of holiday weekends like Colombia but "shhhheeeesshhh!"
If dude was in his 20's and she was in her mid teems. Something sounds and smells fishy. Granted I can see where she would be enomorada with this guy. He got her when she was super young (not of age?) and he got his hooks into her. I just can't see why he'd do what he do. Maybe the idea of a girlfriend is enough for this dude.
Cheers! Hope You all enjoy the holiday!
Wow! Now that is extreme! A novio for 4 years and have never met in person.
I hope at least they video chat LOL.They talk on the phone and skype but she has never gotten naked for him. I'm telling you that it is the weirdest thing ever. She could have her choice of gringo's or latin men if she wanted but she is in love. Not because of the college either. She has known him since she was 15 and after so many years I guess the love, (or thought of love) is real. I have tried to point out to her that if she is seriously waiting for him to come and sweep her off her feet then she is missing so much of her life because of him. Kinda a dick thing to do to her. She is not a working girl and cries when he doesn't make time for her. I got to find him and ask what type of freaking voodoo spells he uses. I saw a picture of him. He is an overweight spanish guy. I'm guessing he hasn't visited for a few reasons. 1. He is married. 2. He is in the US illegally. 3. He is an absolutely fucking moron.
PartyPooper87
11-29-13, 01:41
After, mongering in Medellin for 1 week I have a good idea of the place. First, this place is completely beautiful. I have not visited Brazil but this place has the most beautiful women on the face of the earth that I've seen. If you can speak Spanish fluently there is plenty of opportunity for you to find a girl friend or wife. Colombian women are completely open to dating foreigners. Even middle-age women look gorgeous here. Now for mongering, I would recommend the casas. Why? I went to a casa picked out a chica 7 in looks con grande culo. In the casas you don't pay first. I love this concept. I went in expecting trienta minutos and had sex for 2 hours. No one knocked on the door or bothered us. Damage 120k for 2 hours. Included BBJ and anal for 50k tip. This chica was amazing. Now, I've visited the strip clubs Maracibo and Executive. I wouldn't recommend visiting them more than twice. Bad service and someone knocks on the door even when you're not finished. Chicas in Maracibo are between 5-7 in looks however they have lots of energy. Now in reality there are more beautiful women walking the street of Medellin than in any club you go to. I got a phone number from a chica 10 in looks just hanging out at a restaurant. Colombians love to party and have fun. I would truly visit this country again without the intention of mongering. However, again Spanish is a must. I stayed here for 1 week and only met 1 person who could speak English semi-fluently. Also, this place is far safer than what most people imagine. Also, I didn't meet one monger while I was here which means it's a pretty big and sophisticated city.
Member #4244
11-29-13, 02:28
That's a pretty odd situation but hopefully it works out.
I've got nothing against helping someone and I don't advise against it per se. I advise against it as a means of you getting something out of it, whether emotional, sexual or both. If you're doing it just to get something, your heart is in the wrong place probably and, more importantly you probably won't get what you're after. This turned into something confrontational that may have obscured that. My last GF down here, I paid all her study prep for university entry and a lot of other shit for her. It didn't work out and for that reason I'm glad I did what I did and not a whole lot more. The last thing I would advise people to do is be cheap and make mongering all about some sort of Coupon Wars-style game to see who can get the most service for the least money. I always advise people to tip for good service and show respect to a woman whether she is a prepago, the Virgin Mary or one of the many women in between. That said, don't get over-invested. It's easy to do!
SavePros321
11-29-13, 03:25
in the casas you don't pay first. i love this concept.not true for all casas. coffee house (the casa that is connected to the love motel) you pay first. when your time is up they call the phone in your room (you can request more time on the phone). i believe most have reported at lindas chicas you pay the mamasan first as well.
also, this place is far safer than what most people imagine.sure, if you never venture out of poblado, lleras, or laureles.
Legal Tender
11-29-13, 03:29
That's a pretty odd situation but hopefully it works out.
I've got nothing against helping someone and I don't advise against it per se. I advise against it as a means of you getting something out of it, whether emotional, sexual or both. If you're doing it just to get something, your heart is in the wrong place probably and, more importantly you probably won't get what you're after.I think it's called Karma. I learned to give not because I have much, but because I know exactly how it feels to have NOTHING.
Only good energy, amigo
Member #4244
11-29-13, 03:48
Not true for all casas. Coffee House (the casa that is connected to the love motel) you pay first. When your time is up they call the phone in your room (you can request more time on the phone). I believe most have reported at Lindas Chicas you pay the mamasan first as well.
Sure, if you never venture out of Poblado, Lleras, or Laureles.You pay first at Aiffe, too, at loads of casas, actually. Not sure where he is getting this info.
Is Coffee House any good these days? I went once and was impressed but I didn't have time to session. A couple other times I have gone, it was pretty dead.
I think New Life is probably the only casa that let's you pay AFTER. Paying upfront to the manager is not a big deal for me, it's just how business is done here. I always ask to chat with the chica first before committing to the session.
Went to Coffee Shop (Cra 45 #55-45) and it's sister casa, Sarita / Leidy (Calle 55 #43-72) today around 3-ish. Did not session, only 1 chica out of a lineup of 6/7 in each would have been do-able if I had not just sessioned at Afrodita (Cra 45 #56-45) These 3 places all charge 35k / 60k.
SavePros321
11-29-13, 04:37
Is Coffee House any good these days? I went once and was impressed but I didn't have time to session. A couple other times I have gone, it was pretty dead.I've only been once. The time I went they had this short Afro-Colombiana named Analucia who had a ridiculous phat bubble ass and small frame. Took her for a spin, but the session did not turn out well (for me) since I had just came from a session at New Life (and had not recharged in time). I haven't been back there though.
They talk on the phone and skype but she has never gotten naked for him. I'm telling you that it is the weirdest thing ever. She could have her choice of gringo's or latin men if she wanted but she is in love. Not because of the college either. She has known him since she was 15 and after so many years I guess the love, (or thought of love) is real. I have tried to point out to her that if she is seriously waiting for him to come and sweep her off her feet then she is missing so much of her life because of him. Kinda a dick thing to do to her. She is not a working girl and cries when he doesn't make time for her. I got to find him and ask what type of freaking voodoo spells he uses. I saw a picture of him. He is an overweight spanish guy. I'm guessing he hasn't visited for a few reasons. 1. He is married. 2. He is in the US illegally. 3. He is an absolutely fucking moron.Yep, there obviously has to be a reason why this dude doesn't visit his hot 'girlfriend'.
You named 3 good reasons.
I'll add nbr 4: a convicted Felon.
If he hasn't come to see her in 4 years or so, he's probably not coming, especially if she's so hot.
We'd all have been there after a couple weeks of chatting LOL.
She'll wake up eventually though and realize, and then be sad and pissed off and probably hate gringos or all men, etc LOL
My dos pesos. I've been in my fair share of flame battles so I can't judge those involved but I will say everybody has a valid point.
Do what ever you like and who cares what the next man thinks? Dude ain't got to walk in my shoes, pay my bills, worry about my troubles, so why care who the next guy is? Some dudes love cheap cheap pussy, right on. Some guys like the GFE or from the sounds of it Wifey Exp. Right on.I totally agree.
They talk on the phone and skype but she has never gotten naked for him. I'm telling you that it is the weirdest thing ever. She could have her choice of gringo's or Latin men if she wanted but she is in love. Not because of the college either. She has known him since she was 15 and after so many years I guess the love, (or thought of love) is real. I have tried to point out to her that if she is seriously waiting for him to come and sweep her off her feet then she is missing so much of her life because of him. Kinda a dick thing to do to her. She is not a working girl and cries when he doesn't make time for her. I got to find him and ask what type of freaking voodoo spells he uses. I saw a picture of him. He is an overweight Spanish guy. I'm guessing he hasn't visited for a few reasons. 1. He is married. 2. He is in the US illegally. 3. He is an absolutely fucking moron.Well, you just blow my cover.
Thanks,
Kukulkan
There's been talking going on here that whether you pay the girl's tuition or expensive gifts, etc, we are all just "mongers" in denial.
Well, I've never liked that word and the attitude it implies (I prefer hobbyist or P4P myself, although I know that's somewhat vague). Words have all kinds of connotations. If all hobbyists are categorized as mongers, and all hookers are dismissed as w*s, well then no wonder people get mad when someone is blowing wads of cash on some chica's college tuition, LOL!
But there can be shades of grey when it comes to these things. There was an era once when affluent men fell in love with courtesans, or had kept women they supported on the side. Such things hardly exist nowadays but guys like Legal Tender keep some of those old practices going. Most guys on this board are on a tight budget, especially nowadays, but if you have the money to burn, I don't see what the big deal is. Myself, I don't have that kind of money to spare, but if I did, I would consider doing it for the "right girl." As long as you have your eyes completely open and realize no amount of cash can guarantee affection or loyalty or trust.
So enjoy the game but realize it's a fantasy. And all fantasies end. Of course, once one ends you can begin another one with someone else. The new fantasy will be a little different from the previous one, but with the right attitude can be just as fun (even more!). My approach comes from my user name. The main question is: are you having fun? If no, it could be from lack of knowledge or experience (not really your fault) or it could be the wrong approach or attitude (mostly your fault).
I've noticed a lot of guys here recently posting concern about the girls true feelings or intentions. When I was younger that worried me a lot as well. Now as I start to get older and less age-compatible it actually seems less an issue. I just take for granted that of couse holding things equal a chica is going to want to be with a guy her age from her part of the world. But once you accept that, you can actually be more relaxed around her. Remember, these girls can have doubts about you as well. They are probably thinking, this guy has had so many women, and he has money, he probably just sees me as another notch on his bedpost, or a trophy for his collection.
Sorry about rambling but the basic point is you will go insane if you obsess over these things. Just focus on having fun and being affectionate with these chicas, you will have mostly good experiences and minimize your chances of "being taken to the cleaners!"
Norman Stormin
11-29-13, 14:31
While making my morning rounds, I saw many of my regulars aimlessly wondering around Plaza Botero. Making matters more confusing, the girls of CL 52 were on CL 53. What's up? The Mayor making good his promise to clean up El Centro? These girls normally find a comfort zone and camp there for life. Then I found the answer. The front of Vera Cruz had been cordoned off to replace paving stones. This was so traumatic that some of the girls even went home.
Not to worry. They plan to finsh in time for the Christmas Chaos which will start Monday. For all you guys who live in Gringolandia, come up town. The water´s fine. The Mayor has really beefed up police and army presence. I´ve only seen three robberies and one stabbing so far this week. Crime´s down considerably!
Member #4244
11-29-13, 16:01
Phunluv I think that was an insightful post, thank you.
SavePros321
11-29-13, 17:51
Most guys on this board are on a tight budget, especially nowadays, but if you have the money to burn, I don't see what the big deal is. Myself, I don't have that kind of money to spare, but if I did, I would consider doing it for the "right girl."I think it all boils down to perspective. I guess to some guys "money to burn" equates to putting a chick up and paying her way through college.
To me (and I am sure others on this board)"money to burn" equates to frequent, longer trips to multiple countries, and banging newer and increasingly hotter women. That would be my definition of getting the best ROI. If I want to be charitable, there is always the Red Cross and the Humane Society.
I think it's called Karma. I learned to give not because I have much, but because I know exactly how it feels to have NOTHING.
Only good energy, amigoToo many asshole scumbags making kabillions and living the life they want.
Too many good hearted people living a tortured existence, no, there is no Karma.
But there are mongers. After all is said and done at the end of 2013, we are mongers, very plain and simple.
A very lucky bunch we are too.
Best
SavePros321
11-29-13, 20:22
As a monger, one of the best things you can do for yourself is to NOT give the impression that you are just some old, lonely guy who is loaded and an unlimited ATM withdrawal. If you are bored, spend some time today watching the "Deadly Women" marathon on Investigation Discovery (ID). Some of the shit on there will definitely have you sleeping with one eye open, LOL!
Vegas Jeff
11-29-13, 20:54
I've noticed a lot of guys here recently posting concern about the girls true feelings or intentions. When I was younger that worried me a lot as well. Now as I start to get older and less age-compatible it actually seems less an issue. I just take for granted that of couse holding things equal a chica is going to want to be with a guy her age from her part of the world. But once you accept that, you can actually be more relaxed around her. Remember, these girls can have doubts about you as well. They are probably thinking, this guy has had so many women, and he has money, he probably just sees me as another notch on his bedpost, or a trophy for his collection.
Sorry about rambling but the basic point is you will go insane if you obsess over these things. Just focus on having fun and being affectionate with these chicas, you will have mostly good experiences and minimize your chances of "being taken to the cleaners!"As Warren Buffett says, he wants to leave his kids enough to do anything they want, but not so much that they can do nothing. Keep this in mind when helping these girls. Maybe a little help when serious difficulty arises and advice is the sweet spot. If they are always in need they are working you or are lazy. Most of the girls I am with are lazy and I accept that about them.
First off there is extreme poverty in MDE. Many of you read about the minimum wage of 600k ($350 / month) and think OMG how can they live off of this. The majority of the poor can't even find jobs that will pay them this. It is difficult for many poor girls to find steady work that pays 25k+ per day. A few people within a house work and support the entire family. There is no need for these extreme payment arrangements if one has time in MDE. If you want to do it, then that is up to you. Don't forget that if you throw money at them they will lose respect for you IMO.
If one has time in MDE there are plenty of 7's and 8's who will spend extended time with you for 100k or less and they don't have words like hour or condom in their vocabulary. Most of these girls are not aspiring college students. They are just poor and a victim of poverty. This is 90%+ of the girls you will meet in MDE. Many of these girls are satisfied with the money that you give them and have no desire to seek out other men. 9's I find hard to keep fresh irregardless of how you meet them. By the way I have a tough rating scale so add 1 to each of these numbers if you don't.
The difference is swimming in the shallow end of the pool versus the deep end of the pool. Let me explain. The shallow end of the pool is when girls are available to a wide variety of men such as MP's, Strip Clubs, The Mansion, Facebook, etc. The deep end of the pool is when girls are not having sex with an abundance of men. The deep end of the pool is desirable from the standpoint of getting a fresh attitude and essence as well not getting any sex restrictions. I swim in the shallow end of the pool sometimes, and enjoy it, but can see the difference from the deep end. IMO girls in the deep end of the pool who will accept direct payment for sex are better than regular girls. I won't get into that here though. Some Vets only swim in the shallow end and this is cool also. To each their own. Some of the girls that you meet in the deep end will find their way into the shallow end. Deal with this as you will. For you guys who have short trips, the shallow end of the pool is all that is available and the shallow end is a good place in MDE. If I traveled to another city for a week I would consider myself lucky to be with the caliber of girls that many of you guys are with in Medellin.
Here are a few easy ideas for you guys who have extended time. First, if you meet a girl in the shallow end, who is new and has a fresh attitude, get her phone number. If she is reluctant to give it to you tell her that you will only call her if she quits. Two of my favorite girls I met in their first week in Centro casas, who quit, and I transitioned them to the room. I read on the forum a few weeks ago some complaining about girls quitting at Aiffe. If they were new and you got their numbers this would be a good thing. Second, get referrals from the girls that you already know. Be very clear that you can get working girls very easily and that you are looking for girls with limited or no experience. It is also important to let them know that there is no rush and you have all the time in the world and quality is what counts. Third, taxi drivers can be good if you can find the right ones that you can trust. There are many other ideas as well but I just wanted to touch on a few easy ideas.
Don't be surprised if some new girls will not give you a BJ or DATY but will let you have endless no condom sex with them. IMO there is a big difference between a girl not doing these things for professional reasons versus innocence reasons. In the poor barrios many these girls make out, with light petting, and then jump into sex. I am sure some of you Vets can identify with this. Now you know where this stems from.
Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.
Good Luck to all and enjoy the Holidays.
VJ
Member #4287
11-29-13, 21:59
As a monger, one of the best things you can do for yourself is to NOT give the impression that you are just some old, lonely guy who is loaded and an unlimited ATM withdrawal. If you are bored, spend some time today watching the "Deadly Women" marathon on Investigation Discovery (ID). Some of the shit on there will definitely have you sleeping with one eye open, LOL!It's pretty hard to be bore and lonely in Medellin if you have a little coin in your pocket.
Paisas get that there is a lot of competition to get in your bed. In Colombia you can have a smoking hot girlfriend that lives with you 24/7 for about $1000-$1500 a month out of pocket and beat that ass up a couple times a day if you want. But if you aren't living there you really don't have the opportunity to take full advantage of the situation.
If it makes you feel good paying a girls college tuition. Try and imagine what it feels like to take care of her and bang her senseless everyday.
Guys just have to remember that there are a lot more of them then there are of you. You are the commodity. You set the terms. Not them.
Many freelancers as well. All welcome and special no cover tonight
And tomorrow night we're having a Whip Cream Stripper Show.
Need willing boys to lick the cream off the girls. If you're diabetic we can find something else for you to lick;)
SavePros321
11-30-13, 03:41
Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.Excellent write up Vegas Jeff. There really isn't much to add to this. I think all of us are eventually trying to get to the "Deep End". The tools you listed to help get there are very good ideas.
Member #4244
11-30-13, 04:03
Excellent write up Vegas Jeff. There really isn't much to add to this. I think all of us are eventually trying to get to the "Deep End". The tools you listed to help get there are very good ideas.I definitely agree with Jeff but I don't think those are things you can impart to people on a message board, personally. A lot of guys here don't seem to understand the concept of "your mileage may vary"
SeizeTheDay
11-30-13, 04:10
Here are a few easy ideas for you guys who have extended time. First, if you meet a girl in the shallow end, who is new and has a fresh attitude, get her phone number. If she is reluctant to give it to you tell her that you will only call her if she quits. Two of my favorite girls I met in their first week in Centro casas, who quit, and I transitioned them to the room. I read on the forum a few weeks ago some complaining about girls quitting at Aiffe. If they were new and you got their numbers this would be a good thing. Second, get referrals from the girls that you already know. Be very clear that you can get working girls very easily and that you are looking for girls with limited or no experience. It is also important to let them know that there is no rush and you have all the time in the world and quality is what counts. Third, taxi drivers can be good if you can find the right ones that you can trust. There are many other ideas as well but I just wanted to touch on a few easy ideas.This is a great post. I want to try the deep end!
I think it all boils down to perspective. I guess to some guys "money to burn" equates to putting a chick up and paying her way through college.
To me (and I am sure others on this board)"money to burn" equates to frequent, longer trips to multiple countries, and banging newer and increasingly hotter women. That would be my definition of getting the best ROI. If I want to be charitable, there is always the Red Cross and the Humane Society.All of life is all about perspective and I think it's the rare individual whose perspective is not solely derived from financial status.
There is 'money to burn' and then there is 'money to burn'
Those with the latter almost never speak about having it because those without never tire of complaining about those who have and how they spend it.
How much did you give this year to the Red Cross and how good does giving to them really make you feel? My guess is, like most of us, probably nothing because it just doesn't feel that good.
. The difference is swimming in the shallow end of the pool versus the deep end of the pool. Let me explain. The shallow end of the pool is when girls are available to a wide variety of men such as MP's, Strip Clubs, The Mansion, Facebook, etc. The deep end of the pool is when girls are not having sex with an abundance of men. The deep end of the pool is desirable from the standpoint of getting a fresh attitude and essence as well not getting any sex restrictions. I swim in the shallow end of the pool sometimes, and enjoy it, but can see the difference from the deep end. IMO girls in the deep end of the pool who will accept direct payment for sex are better than regular girls. I won't get into that here though. Some Vets only swim in the shallow end and this is cool also. To each their own. Some of the girls that you meet in the deep end will find their way into the shallow end. Deal with this as you will. For you guys who have short trips, the shallow end of the pool is all that is available and the shallow end is a good place in MDE. If I traveled to another city for a week I would consider myself lucky to be with the caliber of girls that many of you guys are with in Medellin.What an excellent analogy of the scene in Medellin, which could apply to various other cities in Latin America as well.
I have to admit, I almost always swim in the shallow end of the pool, looking and hoping to find the 'new' gem.
Over the years I've gotten pretty good at hanging out in the shallow end and finding keepers, and to be honest, whenever I have dabbled over in the deep end of the pool, I've felt out of my comfort zone.
I know what I'm good at, and I've learned to stay there. I'm more than satisfied with sweet. 7-8+, occasional 9 type girls.
The older I get, the more I like being with girls who actually click with me and enjoy being with me as well, and not just the quick PFP.
Having good contacts, like taxistas, local friends, etc, like you refer to, I agree, is key.
As an example, in Brazil, where I mostly hang out, I have befriended various 'madams' from various casas, clubs, etc over the years. They actually call or text me to let me know when a new girl shows up that they know is my type.
Bringing these madams little gifts, chocolates, etc helps out greatly LOL.
I also like how your anaology doesn't demean guys who prefer to swim in either end of the pool.
Like you say, it's all cool, to each their own, and enjoy.
Thank you,
Happy Holidays.
Too many asshole scumbags making kabillions and living the life they want.
Too many good hearted people living a tortured existence, no, there is no Karma.I've always believed in Karma, and I always will.
I enjoy living with good Karma, whether it's real or just percieved.
PS, Interestingly enough, the wealthiest people I know or have known, have been far from the happiest, and in some cases actually very sad.
Of course having money to spend is a good thing, I'm no dummy LOL, however, a good balance of other type fortunes is just as important.
Cheers
I've always believed in Karma, and I always will.
I enjoy living with good Karma, whether it's real or just percieved.
PS, Interestingly enough, the wealthiest people I know or have known, have been far from the happiest, and in some cases actually very sad.
Of course having money to spend is a good thing, I'm no dummy LOL, however, a good balance of other type fortunes is just as important.
CheersGood post amigo, but some guys will never get it. That's why I mostly travel solo nowadays. The last thing I need is some bad lucked jinxed guy putting a hex on me because of some bullshit he is constantly doing. Being able to travel and live the life I live is proof that "doing right" is rewarded.
SavePros321
11-30-13, 17:07
There is 'money to burn' and then there is 'money to burn'What? Crack pipe much?
How much did you give this year to the Red Cross and how good does giving to them really make you feel? My guess is, like most of us, probably nothing because it just doesn't feel that good.Why do you care what I give to the Red Cross? Doesn't that run counter with your other cracked-induced statement?:
those without never tire of complaining about those who have and how they spend it.
You didn't have to waste forum space to tell us that you don't give charitable donations because it "just doesn't feel that good"; nor did I come on here trying to guilt anyone into donating to the Red Cross!
And let's stop with the bullshit. If you were really concerned about "chicas going to college" I am certain there is no shortage of scholarship funds in Colombia that you could contribute to. But that "doesn't feel that good" as taking advantage of a situation and making a "direct donation" (into) a chica, now does it?
Tricking your earnings on "tuition payments" on women (other than your immediate family) is a lifestyle choice. There is nothing noble about it, so stop trying to guilt others into thinking otherwise.
SlamCity7777
11-30-13, 17:23
Good post amigo, but some guys will never get it. That's why I mostly travel solo nowadays. The last thing I need is some bad lucked jinxed guy putting a hex on me because of some bullshit he is constantly doing. Being able to travel and live the life I live is proof that "doing right" is rewarded.I was going to quote Ricker but this is worth a "big up" as well.
You reap what you so. If you try to live your life looking out for #1. Then that's what the world or Karma if you want will return to you. I always try my best to not be a jerk and to be kind when and where ever I can. This insures more good luck and positive energy in the world and for me in my life.
Good post amigo, but some guys will never get it. That's why I mostly travel solo nowadays. The last thing I need is some bad lucked jinxed guy putting a hex on me because of some bullshit he is constantly doing. Being able to travel and live the life I live is proof that "doing right" is rewarded.I too, almost always run solo myself.
Just recently, however, I was with a guy, kind of a sad sack who was telling me about his recent bad luck with women.
I felt bad for him, so I called a girl I know to come over and to bring a friendly friend, for my 'buddy'.
She brought over a real sweety for him, and to say the least, he was thrilled.
Over dinner, I translated, got the details worked out on how long she would stay, how much he would 'help' her out with, etc.
Everybody agreed and everybody was happy.
The girl really didn't want much either, she was more than happy with the deal, like I said, a real sweetheart and shy.
To make a long story short, later on just after the girls left in a cab, my girl calls and says that her friend is very sad because my friend never gave her any of the promised 'help'.
I was stunned, and I quizzed my so called buddy about the money, and he says to me,"Dude, she never asked for it, so what the f#k, I didn't give it to her"
I wanted to punch him in the nose, and realized why he has so many girl problems.
Total dip- shit, but maybe I should have known, because incredibly at dinner, when the check came, he said he didn't have any money on him, a sign of things to come.
The next day, I met up with the girls and took care of the sweety, and made her a new friend for myself.
This guy actually asked me for the girls contact info later, and I just basically laughed it off.
He obviously just doesn't get it, and his Karma definitely follows him.
Karma or whatever it may be, what comes around, goes around.
BlancoVikingo
11-30-13, 18:01
i agree 100. should be official monger info. over mde.
partyp is 100% right. i have lived in several cities in several countries in latin america, and it's only brasil that is somewhat equal, venezuela could be but even hotter, but is simply too dangerous these days, at least according to statistics. even here at isg, caracas have 300 reports, mde has 10.000.
after, mongering in medellin for 1 week i have a good idea of the place. first, this place is completely beautiful. i have not visited brazil but this place has the most beautiful women on the face of the earth that i've seen. if you can speak spanish fluently there is plenty of opportunity for you to find a girl friend or wife. colombian women are completely open to dating foreigners. even middle-age women look gorgeous here. now for mongering, i would recommend the casas. why? i went to a casa picked out a chica 7 in looks con grande culo. in the casas you don't pay first. i love this concept. i went in expecting trienta minutos and had sex for 2 hours. no one knocked on the door or bothered us. damage 120k for 2 hours. included bbj and anal for 50k tip. this chica was amazing. now, i've visited the strip clubs maracibo and executive. i wouldn't recommend visiting them more than twice. bad service and someone knocks on the door even when you're not finished. chicas in maracibo are between 5-7 in looks however they have lots of energy. now in reality there are more beautiful women walking the street of medellin than in any club you go to. i got a phone number from a chica 10 in looks just hanging out at a restaurant. colombians love to party and have fun. i would truly visit this country again without the intention of mongering. however, again spanish is a must. i stayed here for 1 week and only met 1 person who could speak english semi-fluently. also, this place is far safer than what most people imagine. also, i didn't meet one monger while i was here which means it's a pretty big and sophisticated city.
SavePros321
11-30-13, 18:04
To make a long story short, later on just after the girls left in a cab, my girl calls and says that her friend is very sad because my friend never gave her any of the promised 'help'.
I was stunned, and I quizzed my so called buddy about the money, and he says to me,"Dude, she never asked for it, so what the f#k, I didn't give it to her"
I wanted to punch him in the nose, and realized why he has so many girl problems.
Good post amigo, but some guys will never get it. That's why I mostly travel solo nowadays. The last thing I need is some bad lucked jinxed guy putting a hex on me because of some bullshit he is constantly doing.Spot fucking ON! Ricker's example is also the reason why I do not fuck with too many people when I am traveling. Too many times you end up helping someone who is only trying to help themselves.
What? Crack pipe much?
Why do you care what I give to the Red Cross? Doesn't that run counter with your other cracked-induced statement? :
You didn't have to waste forum space to tell us that you don't give charitable donations because it "just doesn't feel that good"; nor did I come on here trying to guilt anyone into donating to the Red Cross!
And let's stop with the bullshit. If you were really concerned about "chicas going to college" I am certain there is no shortage of scholarship funds in Colombia that you could contribute to. But that "doesn't feel that good" as taking advantage of a situation and making a "direct donation" (into) a chica, now does it?
Tricking your earnings on "tuition payments" on women (other than your immediate family) is a lifestyle choice. There is nothing noble about it, so stop trying to guilt others into thinking otherwise.I don't care but then I didn't bring it up, you did. I would never, ever 'suggest' to anyone who to give their money to or how to or not to spend it.
But then I think you rather missed my point there old man.
Contrary to this sites moniker, the world's greatest aphrodisiac is manipulating other people, especially women. Money is just a vehicle. And those with money have been 'jonesing' on it since time began.
And those without money use guns and those without guns use religion, but I digress. So paying tuition, on it's surface, seems almost innocent doesn't it.
Fun being a monger, huh.
I feel sad . For this thread!Relax man, this thread is and always has been dynamic.
From trip reports, to philosophies, to occasional fights and disagreements.
It's an internet sex-guide forum, nothing to get sad about.
Enjoy life mi amigo!
What an excellent analogy of the scene in Medellin, which could apply to various other cities in Latin America as well.
I have to admit, I almost always swim in the shallow end of the pool, looking and hoping to find the 'new' gem.
Over the years I've gotten pretty good at hanging out in the shallow end and finding keepers, and to be honest, whenever I have dabbled over in the deep end of the pool, I've felt out of my comfort zone.
I know what I'm good at, and I've learned to stay there. I'm more than satisfied with sweet. 7-8+, occasional 9 type girls.
The older I get, the more I like being with girls who actually click with me and enjoy being with me as well, and not just the quick PFP.
Having good contacts, like taxistas, local friends, etc, like you refer to, I agree, is key.
As an example, in Brazil, where I mostly hang out, I have befriended various 'madams' from various casas, clubs, etc over the years. They actually call or text me to let me know when a new girl shows up that they know is my type.
Bringing these madams little gifts, chocolates, etc helps out greatly LOL.
I also like how your anaology doesn't demean guys who prefer to swim in either end of the pool.
Like you say, it's all cool, to each their own, and enjoy.
Thank you,
Happy Holidays.I really enjoyed Vegas Jeff's analogy of the pool. Like Ricker, I too tend to hang in the shallows, but always on the lookout for the occasional diamond. If I had more time I'd spend it in the deep end, but I don't. The last few days that I've been here in Medellin, I have been working with my manager of Liquid to recruit chicas that are somewhere in between. I'm hoping to get a sweet and pretty group who consider Liquid their home away from home. It has started already with a small group, but I intend to improve on it, but at least now we always have a fairly reliable group that hangs at Liquid willing to party with the guests. I'll post a few pics when I get them moved on to my laptop.
Member #4244
12-01-13, 00:13
Went to an MP this afternoon, I have no idea the name. It's a bar on La Playa (Calle 52) , basically La Playa con Junin (cra 49). You will see a Presto (nasty hamburger chain place) walk past it (away from La Playa) and walk up the steps.
There were maybe eight girls working, three of which looked decent (6 or 7 out of 10 rating).35K COP half hour includes oral, vaginal and massage. 70K COP includes two pops if you can get them in. I don't know what BBBJ is but for all extras (kissing / BBFS / anal) was quoted 50K by the girl I talked to. The place is set up like a bar, has stripper poles, big screens, bar, tables and then little bedrooms in the back. Not bad because you can kind of hang out there. I always feel weird sitting in the waiting room at most MPs, I don't get the guys who sit there and fuck around for a long time. Not really a chill atmosphere to me. This place was OK, decent music also. I only went because I hollered at a chick on the street and, as it turned out, she worked there. That is the third time in as many months that I've run down a "non pro" on the street only to later to discover she was a pro. Medellin makes, the world takes ;)
Relax man, this thread is and always has been dynamic.
From trip reports, to philosophies, to occasional fights and disagreements.
It's an internet sex-guide forum, nothing to get sad about.
Enjoy life mi amigo!I just rather share info without having to hear all the excuses, rationalizations and moaning. Amigo, I miss hanging out with you and your bro but it's stories like the one you just related that I rather fly solo sometimes. Those type of people give hobbyists a bad name!
Tables and chairs are allowed on the sidewalk again for the restaurants and only for the restaurants. Not sure when. Only an intel from a friend who is there right now. Strip is packed with chicas tonight.
Cheers.
Lots of fireworks in the sky tonight as the calendar rolls into December 1. The start of the holiday season. Feliz Navidad everyone!
Member #4244
12-01-13, 07:05
Went to the Barra Ejecutiva, Maracaibo, F2 and SD street scene tonight.
F2 talent was pretty nice but not much new and all the same boring attitudes. I thought about going with Julieta but I didn't feel much enthusiasm from her so I passed. I saw Leidy (not sure her stage name) , smoking hot, would recommend both of those. For me both those two and a blondie (Diana Catalina, again not sure about stage name) are kind of past tense though.
Barra Ejecutiva and Maracaibo were the usual "just miss" type of chicks, they look good from afar but in the light of day. Mehhhhh. OK selection though and relatively small crowds for a Saturday. I guess the whole December thing, just like on El Dia de Amor why Amistad, shit is slow.
Ultimately I saw Andrea in the SD area, taller girl, thin, decent sized B cups but they are kind of soft and not all that well formed. She is 18, very relaxed and eager to please. I would recommend her.
Legal Tender
12-01-13, 09:16
As Warren Buffett says, he wants to leave his kids enough to do anything they want, but not so much that they can do nothing. Keep this in mind when helping these girls. Maybe a little help when serious difficulty arises and advice is the sweet spot. If they are always in need they are working you or are lazy. Most of the girls I am with are lazy and I accept that about them.
First off there is extreme poverty in MDE. Many of you read about the minimum wage of 600k ($350 / month) and think OMG how can they live off of this. The majority of the poor can't even find jobs that will pay them this. It is difficult for many poor girls to find steady work that pays 25k+ per day. A few people within a house work and support the entire family. There is no need for these extreme payment arrangements if one has time in MDE. If you want to do it, then that is up to you. Don't forget that if you throw money at them they will lose respect for you IMO.
If one has time in MDE there are plenty of 7's and 8's who will spend extended time with you for 100k or less and they don't have words like hour or condom in their vocabulary. Most of these girls are not aspiring college students. They are just poor and a victim of poverty. This is 90%+ of the girls you will meet in MDE. Many of these girls are satisfied with the money that you give them and have no desire to seek out other men. 9's I find hard to keep fresh irregardless of how you meet them. By the way I have a tough rating scale so add 1 to each of these numbers if you don't.
The difference is swimming in the shallow end of the pool versus the deep end of the pool. Let me explain. The shallow end of the pool is when girls are available to a wide variety of men such as MP's, Strip Clubs, The Mansion, Facebook, etc. The deep end of the pool is when girls are not having sex with an abundance of men. The deep end of the pool is desirable from the standpoint of getting a fresh attitude and essence as well not getting any sex restrictions. I swim in the shallow end of the pool sometimes, and enjoy it, but can see the difference from the deep end. IMO girls in the deep end of the pool who will accept direct payment for sex are better than regular girls. I won't get into that here though. Some Vets only swim in the shallow end and this is cool also. To each their own. Some of the girls that you meet in the deep end will find their way into the shallow end. Deal with this as you will. For you guys who have short trips, the shallow end of the pool is all that is available and the shallow end is a good place in MDE. If I traveled to another city for a week I would consider myself lucky to be with the caliber of girls that many of you guys are with in Medellin.
Here are a few easy ideas for you guys who have extended time. First, if you meet a girl in the shallow end, who is new and has a fresh attitude, get her phone number. If she is reluctant to give it to you tell her that you will only call her if she quits. Two of my favorite girls I met in their first week in Centro casas, who quit, and I transitioned them to the room. I read on the forum a few weeks ago some complaining about girls quitting at Aiffe. If they were new and you got their numbers this would be a good thing. Second, get referrals from the girls that you already know. Be very clear that you can get working girls very easily and that you are looking for girls with limited or no experience. It is also important to let them know that there is no rush and you have all the time in the world and quality is what counts. Third, taxi drivers can be good if you can find the right ones that you can trust. There are many other ideas as well but I just wanted to touch on a few easy ideas.
Don't be surprised if some new girls will not give you a BJ or DATY but will let you have endless no condom sex with them. IMO there is a big difference between a girl not doing these things for professional reasons versus innocence reasons. In the poor barrios many these girls make out, with light petting, and then jump into sex. I am sure some of you Vets can identify with this. Now you know where this stems from.
Success as a Hobbyist in Colombia and other countries that have a deep end is a mindset. Once you have the right mindset the girls can see it in your eyes and they treat you differently. I have found the girls in MDE to be smoking hot, easy to entertain, great in bed, and in general cool to be around. I would encourage the Vets to write more about the deep end and discourage the readers from attacking them for doing so.
Good Luck to all and enjoy the Holidays.
VJThere really isn't anything to add to VJ's observations and analysis, except it ought to be required reading. Very thoughtful and equally insightful.
Thank you
Legal Tender
12-01-13, 09:28
As an example, in Brazil, where I mostly hang out. .Ricker, I get the impression that you can live anywhere you want to live. You spend most of your time in Brazil. I can't imagine a place better than the City of Eternal Spring, but we're all limited by our knowledge. Why Brazil and not Medellin?
Just an FYI to everyone that Liquid was packed last night (Saturday). Probably the only bar in Medellin that was because of Alumbrado. Good mix of Chicas to Gringos, although we're still working on upping the quality of the girls. The partners had a meeting, and all agreed to keep a minimum of 5-10 girls every night regardless of the cost. We are going to a lot of extra trouble and expense to get really high quality girls, but to be honest it likely won't happen overnight.
For those that don't know, Alumbrado starts at midnight of Dec 1st and is the kickoff of the holiday celebrations and the City of Medellin is lit up all along the river in an extravagant, and spectacular fashion. Almost a carnival atmosphere. My first time here for it and I'm really grateful for it.
I'll post some great pics in the next few days.
Optic Guard
12-01-13, 16:35
I was wondering if anyone has used Fling there has been a lot of girls that are probably prepagao that I have seen on the site
It is just a question
Member #4244
12-01-13, 16:49
Jeff's approach is pretty similar to mine, of course they don't necessarily have to quit their gigs, especially if they work in a higher end place where they are not constantly getting run through. I imagine it would be pretty nasty to be with a New Life girl after a long day at work LOL. I work that angle plus the SWs plus just cute girls I see in the Centro. Don't be a creep, but don't be afraid to stop a girl on the street, compliment her and ask for a number. The whiffs will be a lot easier to take knowing a home run is right around the corner.
The only thing I would say is that obviously for that a working level of Spanish is very necessary. I would also say it's important to do little things to win them over, not much but show them you are thoughtful. On the logistical side, I would say get your exams regularly (AIDS / HIV, Syphilis are the big ones, Herpes also I guess). Having those gives girls a lot more confidence if you are trying to bareback, build confidence, etc.
Browsing through the photo gallery section, I love how so many photos are taken by the girls themselves. Even fondly remembering my recent visit to Medellin, I found it endearing how a few women I met repeatedly took pictures of themselves. A quick look at other photo galleries in other countries show women covering their faces, or having the faces photoshopped out.
I am trying to think of the right word."Shameless" or "confident" just don't seem right, because they respect themselves and don't treat men in an arrogant way. Colombian women love life. They take joy in their own beauty. They appreciate it for the fleeting thing that it is. I just love that about them.
StudBucket
12-02-13, 01:02
From Av8r : "The partners had a meeting, and all agreed to keep a minimum of 5-10 girls every night regardless of the cost. We are going to a lot of extra trouble and expense to get really high quality girls, but to be honest it likely won't happen overnight."
Thanks Av8r, I really will be looking forward to going back to MDE next spring with my buddies. Medellin was really in need of a place like this last time (to meet FL's) we were there. And actually, there was not 1 dominant place that I could say had a bunch of solid 7 to 10s. Ln all of the casas, strip clubs, and mps, you had to really scour to find the real gems. So its nice you are aiming for high quality! And also smart that you are ensuring the place does not sit devoid of at least some girls.
Hey guys,
I'm jumping forums to get some insight about Medellin. Currently I'm living in Bogota and the scene here is getting stale for my liking. It seems like all the action is happening in MDE! I've had some good experiences, along with some not-so-good ones in Bogota.
My question, do any of you strapping young lads have good contacts with chicas in Bogota? Perhaps some regulars you were acquainted with in MDE who moved to Bogota? Or anything of the sort? I guess for me, the most valuable input comes from experience / recommendations. Any advice is appreciated in advance!
One day I would like to visit Medellin, but my girlfriend says I can't go there without her! She's truly threatened by the Paisa women! Makes me all the more curious.
Also, if you're looking for a good conversation point with Paisa women. Ask them if they know where the term "Paisa" came from! I can't confirm if this is 100% true, but a friend (Bogotano) of mine told me that when Panama was looking for independence from Colombia, Medellin wanted to be independent too. So the term Paisa comes from "pais" + "aparte". Makes sense to me but again not 100% sure.
Vegas Jeff
12-02-13, 06:46
Jeff's approach is pretty similar to mine, of course they don't necessarily have to quit their gigs, especially if they work in a higher end place where they are not constantly getting run through. I imagine it would be pretty nasty to be with a New Life girl after a long day at work LOL. I work that angle plus the SWs plus just cute girls I see in the Centro. Don't be a creep, but don't be afraid to stop a girl on the street, compliment her and ask for a number. The whiffs will be a lot easier to take knowing a home run is right around the corner.There is no reason to get a girl from a mp after a long day of work when she is tired. It is easy to get a girl to take off work at an mp and come to your apartment. It is very important to call them 1-2 hours before their shift the day that you are going to meet with them. If you talk with them the night before, and then call them after their shift starts the next day, they will already be at work. Most of these girls won't trust you until they get to know you. Also, many mp's fine the girls for leaving early but if they call in it is no problem.
Ricker, I get the impression that you can live anywhere you want to live. You spend most of your time in Brazil. I can't imagine a place better than the City of Eternal Spring, but we're all limited by our knowledge. Why Brazil and not Medellin?LT.
If you're looking for Porn Star experience, Brasilian women are in a class of their own. And Rio is a World-class, spectacular City (though I am aware that Ricker spends most of his time in Sao Paulo).
While I do love MDE, Brasil IMO is the one place every monger should visit once in his life.
There is no reason to get a girl from a mp after a long day of work when she is tired. It is easy to get a girl to take off work at an mp and come to your apartment. It is very important to call them 1-2 hours before their shift the day that you are going to meet with them. If you talk with them the night before, and then call them after their shift starts the next day, they will already be at work. Most of these girls won't trust you until they get to know you. Also, many mp's fine the girls for leaving early but if they call in it is no problem.Hello VJ: Thanks for the sound advice, what is a fair amount to offer for an hour or so, accounting for the fact that the casa takes a commission? Can they just call in late without being fined, since I am not looking for a date. Just the opportunity to session in a clean & comfortable atmosphere.
To your knowledge, what is the fine for taking the day off? In my limited experience, chica math usually doesn't work in our favor and they will ask for top dollar even though we can just visit the casa the next day and pay way less!
Member #4244
12-02-13, 18:10
Hello VJ: Thanks for the sound advice, what is a fair amount to offer for an hour or so, accounting for the fact that the casa takes a commission? Can they just call in late without being fined, since I am not looking for a date. Just the opportunity to session in a clean & comfortable atmosphere.
To your knowledge, what is the fine for taking the day off? In my limited experience, chica math usually doesn't work in our favor and they will ask for top dollar even though we can just visit the casa the next day and pay way less!Think about it man, these casas charge you 35K or so on average. The girl is lucky to see 20K of that, probably more like 15K. How many clients is she realistically going to have in a day? 2-3 would be an average to good day. If you offer 100K for a whole afternoon, she will almost certainly take it.
I had a thing going with a Blue Room (and later Energy) girl. They make more there, about 50K per session after the house gets their cut and higher chance of a decent tip for something or other. She would take off in the afternoon or go in late, spend maybe 3 hours with me for 2 pops. We started out at 130K and later dropped to 100K, she paid her cabs also.
The fining and all that shit works differently at different casas. I know at Aiffe if you miss without notice they fine you 20K. At Energy and Blue Room, the girls had contracts, though I don't fully recall how they worked. At New Life, the girls kind of come and go as they please it seems, lots of part timers and hit and missers as far whether or not they are there.
But the bottom line is that money talks and these girls are even more professional at making excuses than they are at making love. If you make them an offer that is favorable, they will take it. It also helps if they trust you and are comfortable / having fun around you, of course
Member #4244
12-02-13, 18:12
There is no reason to get a girl from a mp after a long day of work when she is tired. It is easy to get a girl to take off work at an mp and come to your apartment. It is very important to call them 1-2 hours before their shift the day that you are going to meet with them. If you talk with them the night before, and then call them after their shift starts the next day, they will already be at work. Most of these girls won't trust you until they get to know you. Also, many mp's fine the girls for leaving early but if they call in it is no problem.Right, that is what I am saying, why would you go with one AFTER work?
Very simple to arrange it otherwise.
Personally I find the MPs to be kind of thin on that sort of talent but if you look long enough, you can score a good one. I have had some great experiences doing exactly this.
Ricker, I get the impression that you can live anywhere you want to live. You spend most of your time in Brazil. I can't imagine a place better than the City of Eternal Spring, but we're all limited by our knowledge. Why Brazil and not Medellin?
LT.
If you're looking for Porn Star experience, Brasilian women are in a class of their own. And Rio is a World-class, spectacular City (though I am aware that Ricker spends most of his time in Sao Paulo).
While I do love MDE, Brasil IMO is the one place every monger should visit once in his life.I agree with what Combo says above.
The main reason I spend more time in Brazil, however, is business related.
Advantages of Sao Paulo, Brazil: Way bigger, more cosmopolitan city, many more venues and things to do besides PFP, restaurants, entertainment, nightlife, etc.
Advantage Medellin, Colombia: Way shorter flight to Miami (about 3 hours vs 8) , the weather more agreeable, the girls (faces) are the most beautiful, generally less expensive (though the dollar recently has done well in Brazil).
Also, I've personally found the Brasileiras, in general, to be less drama filled than the Colombianas.
Hard to beat the beauty of a Paisa, however, since I love the morenas, chocolate and caramel type women, Brazil does me good.
Have fun!
From Av8r : "The partners had a meeting, and all agreed to keep a minimum of 5-10 girls every night regardless of the cost. We are going to a lot of extra trouble and expense to get really high quality girls, but to be honest it likely won't happen overnight."
Thanks Av8r, I really will be looking forward to going back to MDE next spring with my buddies. Medellin was really in need of a place like this last time (to meet FL's) we were there. And actually, there was not 1 dominant place that I could say had a bunch of solid 7 to 10s. Ln all of the casas, strip clubs, and mps, you had to really scour to find the real gems. So its nice you are aiming for high quality! And also smart that you are ensuring the place does not sit devoid of at least some girls.We'll look forward to your visit. If you have any special occasion like a birthday, bachelor party etc, let us know and we'll organize it for you. Our big VIP room is almost complete. In fact I'm living in it. We are hosting a birthday party with our most recent recruit Alejandra. She wants a cake, erotic pinada, and a Gringo; not necessarily in that order. I've never heard of erotic pinada's before, but I guess they are filled with vibrators and other sex toys.
Enclosed is a pic of her, and later I'll post the promo art that my partner Wild Bill creates for all our promos.
We'll look forward to your visit. If you have any special occasion like a birthday, bachelor party etc, let us know and we'll organize it for you. Our big VIP room is almost complete. In fact I'm living in it. We are hosting a birthday party with our most recent recruit Alejandra. She wants a cake, erotic pinada, and a Gringo; not necessarily in that order. I've never heard of erotic pinada's before, but I guess they are filled with vibrators and other sex toys.
Enclosed is a pic of her, and later I'll post the promo art that my partner Wild Bill creates for all our promos.Av8r Just don't forget my birthday. January 11th! All those in the area should come have a drink with me!
We'll look forward to your visit. If you have any special occasion like a birthday, bachelor party etc, let us know and we'll organize it for you. Our big VIP room is almost complete. In fact I'm living in it. We are hosting a birthday party with our most recent recruit Alejandra. She wants a cake, erotic pinada, and a Gringo; not necessarily in that order. I've never heard of erotic pinada's before, but I guess they are filled with vibrators and other sex toys.
Enclosed is a pic of her, and later I'll post the promo art that my partner Wild Bill creates for all our promos.Happy Birthday to Alejandra, save some for me, gracias!
The club's looking good too!
Ok Razor. Got you covered. We'll have a cake for you. If you want something more, just let me know. Attached are a few pics from the weekend and the Sunday Night Football Promo. And one photo attempting to showoff our incredible huge 140" screen. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've never seen a huge screen look so crisp.
My birthday is Mon Dec 9. I will be in on Sat the 7th. You don't have to do anything special though. Just don't screw all the lovelies before I get there.
RiceRocket99
12-03-13, 01:16
Wifed up a Blue Room chica for a few days which simply started with her asking me if I wanted to go to the Santa Fe Mall with her on a Sunday (day off). Kinda caught me by surprise, so off we went and chilled the whole afternoon. She paid for her own stuff, but I offered couple gifts or so just to keep her happy for later on. It's basically all about chemistry. If you hit it off with the girl, then most likely you'll get a chance to meet outside the work place and make it enjoyable. After a few hangouts, she even let me take a personal video of her doing the deed. Photos are pretty easy with these girls, but a video is a chance not to miss! Paid her 100K each time and we hung out from afternoon till late night.
Think about it man, these casas charge you 35K or so on average. The girl is lucky to see 20K of that, probably more like 15K. How many clients is she realistically going to have in a day? 2-3 would be an average to good day. If you offer 100K for a whole afternoon, she will almost certainly take it.
I had a thing going with a Blue Room (and later Energy) girl. They make more there, about 50K per session after the house gets their cut and higher chance of a decent tip for something or other. She would take off in the afternoon or go in late, spend maybe 3 hours with me for 2 pops. We started out at 130K and later dropped to 100K, she paid her cabs also.
The fining and all that shit works differently at different casas. I know at Aiffe if you miss without notice they fine you 20K. At Energy and Blue Room, the girls had contracts, though I don't fully recall how they worked. At New Life, the girls kind of come and go as they please it seems, lots of part timers and hit and missers as far whether or not they are there.
But the bottom line is that money talks and these girls are even more professional at making excuses than they are at making love. If you make them an offer that is favorable, they will take it. It also helps if they trust you and are comfortable / having fun around you, of course
SavePros321
12-03-13, 02:09
Ok Razor. Got you covered. We'll have a cake for you. If you want something more, just let me know. Attached are a few pics from the weekend and the Sunday Night Football Promo. And one photo attempting to showoff our incredible huge 140" screen. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've never seen a huge screen look so crisp.Just an observation, but why do you guys promote stuff like "NFL Football Promo","Whip Cream Night", etc, as opposed to just the women themselves? The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.
Why not just make a website like this:
http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html
And then say: "On this night we will have "Such and such","such and such", and "such and such" at Liquid Lounge, along with another handful of women" and post all of their photos like how the La Cueva newsletter is. I'm willing to bet you will get more guys to go there. I'm just trying to figure out that if the women are supposed to be the main draw (to hook up with and take back to your place), then why the need for Oil Wrestling contests (like there is no shortage of them in the US already), Playstation, Foosball table, etc?
Has any of the management team ever been to the Del Rey in Costa Rica, (the former) Help Disco in Rio, LDV in Cartagena, (the former) Clasicos in Sosua? They never had to do any of this stuff. They just let in hot women and the guys naturally follow.
Just an observation, but why do you guys promote stuff like "NFL Football Promo","Whip Cream Night", etc, as opposed to just the women themselves? The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.
Why not just make a website like this:
http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html
Has any of the management team ever been to the Del Rey in Costa Rica, (the former) Help Disco in Rio, LDV in Cartagena, (the former) Clasicos in Sosua? They never had to do any of this stuff. They just let in hot women and the guys naturally follow.Do I need to state the obvious? Or are you just being cruelly sarcastic?
Its because they don't have the girls!
SeizeTheDay
12-03-13, 02:30
The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.I agree completely, I only care about the beautiful chicas. I do not want to watch sweaty men tackle each other. The only man that should be sweaty is me.
Ok Razor. Got you covered. We'll have a cake for you. If you want something more, just let me know. Attached are a few pics from the weekend and the Sunday Night Football Promo. And one photo attempting to showoff our incredible huge 140" screen. I'm not exaggerating when I say I've never seen a huge screen look so crisp.One question on the stripper license. Can the girls get fully nude? I've been to Face Dos and San Diego about 5 times each and have never seen the panties off on stage. I can't find many good things to say about Tijuana, but one thing I like is full nude in-your-face action at Hong Kong (that and the tacos are the only positives in Tijuana). I just wondered if this was due to a law in Medellin, or against the rules of the clubs, or the women are just not as wild.
A smaller point, I also don't like the tipping at places like Face Dos. If you give them a tip on stage, they just kind-of say thanks and keep going. Then they hit you up for a mandatory tip as they walk around. In my mind, there should be no mandatory tipping, and if you get a tip on stage, for god's sake, do something. Maybe you'll get more tips on stage and won't feel the need to hit guys up for a mandatory tip.
One thing I do love about Face Dos and San Diego. The food outside. Any plans for offering food?
I'll be in Medellin this Wed-Sat and hope to visit a few times.
Member #4244
12-03-13, 06:33
What? I have definitely seen fully nude at F2, San Diego, I don't know, I was usually bored by the shoe. Barra Ejecutiva and all that shit is also fully nude.
This reminds me of the film "Pecker" where they start arguing about the dangers of having liquor and pubic hair in the same establishment.
Thanks for help, who answered to my private messages. But I called the list of guides on the Medellin list, and just got few answers to my calls. I need a guide who can prepare the list of girls before my coming, we will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important to find a good and responsible guide. Also, I will spend with the guide my day time and night time. I am not interested in casas, needs semi or non.
Just an observation, but why do you guys promote stuff like "NFL Football Promo","Whip Cream Night", etc, as opposed to just the women themselves? The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.
Why not just make a website like this:
http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html
And then say: "On this night we will have "Such and such","such and such", and "such and such" at Liquid Lounge, along with another handful of women" and post all of their photos like how the La Cueva newsletter is. I'm willing to bet you will get more guys to go there. I'm just trying to figure out that if the women are supposed to be the main draw (to hook up with and take back to your place) , then why the need for Oil Wrestling contests (like there is no shortage of them in the US already) , Playstation, Foosball table, etc?
Has any of the management team ever been to the Del Rey in Costa Rica, (the former) Help Disco in Rio, LDV in Cartagena, (the former) Clasicos in Sosua? They never had to do any of this stuff. They just let in hot women and the guys naturally follow.Speaking as a young guy, I kinda enjoying going to a place that has theme nights. Don't seem to have it every night but mostly Saturdays. It's nice to enjoy a show before or afterwards chat up some chicas. I'm personally not going to just show up, do a scan of chicas and attack. I'm more laid back and enjoy a social setting. When I'm there in January it would be cool to watch a game on Sunday while chatting to some girls. Even the strip clubs here in Miami often have theme nights. I thought liquid lounge was suppose to be different then The Mansion. To each their own. Besides, Saturday January 11th is my birthday and if they do a theme night, I'm sure the girls would have fun making sure I have a fun time celebrating. Not sure if food is available at LL but that's a great idea. Some fries, nachos, burgers, chicken wings etc. But if some of you are not into kicking back and having fun playing play station with a hot chica breaking the ice then that's on you. We all have different ideas of how to meet chicas and the environment to do it in. But it's ok to be a little open minded to new ideas. Most chicas are in their 20s and still enjoy some young fun.
SlamCity7777
12-03-13, 22:00
Thanks for help, who answered to my private messages. But I called the list of guides on the Medellin list, and just got few answers to my calls. I need a guide who can prepare the list of girls before my coming, we will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important to find a good and responsible guide. Also, I will spend with the guide my day time and night time. I am not interested in casas, needs semi or non.Dude. I got to chime in. You can't "reward" the guide or a non pro / normal girl for dates or sex. Once you do that they become a pimp and a working girl! Hahahah!
Nothing in life is free and the important things seldom are. If you want non pros / semi pros chances are you'll have to do the leg work yourself. If a guys says "yeah I have non / semi girls for you. Well he has some working girls telling you a story.
If you're the type of person what needs a structured plan / play then you might find the p4p in Colombia a bit frustrating. Girls HOURS late or not at all, old profile pics or not as pretty in real life, dates broken at the last second, phones turned off (girls often have 2 or 3 numbers).
What's wrong with Casas? LOL!
Good Luck!
Just an observation, but why do you guys promote stuff like "NFL Football Promo","Whip Cream Night", etc, as opposed to just the women themselves? The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.
Why not just make a website like this:
http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html
And then say: "On this night we will have "Such and such","such and such", and "such and such" at Liquid Lounge, along with another handful of women" and post all of their photos like how the La Cueva newsletter is. I'm willing to bet you will get more guys to go there. I'm just trying to figure out that if the women are supposed to be the main draw (to hook up with and take back to your place) , then why the need for Oil Wrestling contests (like there is no shortage of them in the US already) , Playstation, Foosball table, etc?
Has any of the management team ever been to the Del Rey in Costa Rica, (the former) Help Disco in Rio, LDV in Cartagena, (the former) Clasicos in Sosua? They never had to do any of this stuff. They just let in hot women and the guys naturally follow.Anyone who is paying the prices they are asking on this web site needs to have their heads examined.
Thanks for help, who answered to my private messages. But I called the list of guides on the Medellin list, and just got few answers to my calls. I need a guide who can prepare the list of girls before my coming, we will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important to find a good and responsible guide. Also, I will spend with the guide my day time and night time. I am not interested in casas, needs semi or non.I used to think the same many years ago before I first made my trip to MDE. After my first trip I realized that the local culture is different. It is highly unlike that anyone will prepare a list of girls for you. It is not about money or the quality of the guide. It is just the culture. In CO just like other Latin cultures and most Asian countries, people are way more laid back. Even if you contact one and even if the guide says otherwise, the guide will only start looking for girls after he confirms that you are in town and well situated. They are so used to things not happening on time and plans get cancelled all the time, they won't even think about planning ahead.
You claim to be spending 10 days in MDE alone. You have plenty of time. Relax and have a great time. Most importantly, report back.
SavePros321
12-04-13, 00:45
Anyone who is paying the prices they are asking on this web site needs to have their heads examined.Better believe the Colombianos are. Those prices sure aren't gringo related or based on the small percentage of us who visit Colombia for a 3-4 day stay.
And I was just using the webpage as an example idea; not the prices or the hours of availability.
Thanks for help, who answered to my private messages. But I called the list of guides on the Medellin list, and just got few answers to my calls. I need a guide who can prepare the list of girls before my coming, we will set up a reward for every girl. It's very important to find a good and responsible guide. Also, I will spend with the guide my day time and night time. I am not interested in casas, needs semi or non.This is probably the strangest post request that I have ever seen. What is he asking for? A guide, with a list?
That's like going to Macy's and asking for help from the professional shopping assistant.
Really? Cmon man.
SeizeTheDay
12-04-13, 04:31
This is probably the strangest post request that I have ever seen. What is he asking for? A guide, with a list?
That's like going to Macy's and asking for help from the professional shopping assistant.
Really? Cmon man.I have to agree, this is a very confusing post. I have never heard of a list of 'nonpro' girls that would have sex with a guy. The very fact that they are on the list in the first place would make me think they are pros. It is really hard to conceive, a whole list of regular girls willing to have sex with a guy from another country who is not in town yet and they have never met for free. And a 'reward'? I thought a reward is what you give out after someone returns your missing cat Mr. Cuddles. So a pro is a woman you give money to for sex, and a nonpro is woman you give a reward to for sex? Is the reward Mr. Cuddles?
I have to agree, this is a very confusing post. I have never heard of a list of 'nonpro' girls that would have sex with a guy. The very fact that they are on the list in the first place would make me think they are pros. It is really hard to conceive, a whole list of regular girls willing to have sex with a guy from another country who is not in town yet and they have never met for free. And a 'reward'? I thought a reward is what you give out after someone returns your missing cat Mr. Cuddles. So a pro is a woman you give money to for sex, and a nonpro is woman you give a reward to for sex? Is the reward Mr. Cuddles?He could be asking for your little black book or whatever you guys call it. I keep phone numbers of everyday girls I hit up when I want a little side action for free. The only thing is, I worked hard for these numbers and building up the relationship and I ain't going to share it with no one LOL. Especially a complete stranger that's going to reward me by buying me a drink or two.
SavePros321
12-04-13, 04:56
This is probably the strangest post request that I have ever seen. What is he asking for? A guide, with a list?
That's like going to Macy's and asking for help from the professional shopping assistant.
Really? Cmon man.
I have to agree, this is a very confusing post. I have never heard of a list of 'nonpro' girls that would have sex with a guy. The very fact that they are on the list in the first place would make me think they are pros. It is really hard to conceive, a whole list of regular girls willing to have sex with a guy from another country who is not in town yet and they have never met for free. And a 'reward'? I thought a reward is what you give out after someone returns your missing cat Mr. Cuddles. So a pro is a woman you give money to for sex, and a nonpro is woman you give a reward to for sex? Is the reward Mr. Cuddles?LMAO!
Maybe for semi/non pros MikeReal is trying to say that he is looking for women that "do not fuck too much". Like maybe she only bangs 2 guys per week instead of 5? But what if she bangs these two guys multiple times per week? Wouldn't that then give her the same mileage as a pro though?
We're just fucking with you Mike :)
But in all seriousness, SeizeTheDay said it best:
I have never heard of a list of 'nonpro' girls that would have sex with a guy. The very fact that they are on the list in the first place would make me think they are pros. It is really hard to conceive, a whole list of regular girls willing to have sex with a guy from another country who is not in town yet and they have never met for free.
Guys,
I need the person to who can prepare the list of semi, before my coming or we will go together to the clubs with this guide and he helps to speak with the girls, cause I don't know Spanish well. That is the problem. To find and visit casas I can do it without a guide. So if you have any contacts, I would be very thankful if you give them.
Just an observation, but why do you guys promote stuff like "NFL Football Promo","Whip Cream Night", etc, as opposed to just the women themselves? The last thing on my mind while on a monger trip is Football, LOL.
Why not just make a website like this:
http://www.conejitas-vip.com/html/gold.html
And then say: "On this night we will have "Such and such","such and such", and "such and such" at Liquid Lounge, along with another handful of women" and post all of their photos like how the La Cueva newsletter is. I'm willing to bet you will get more guys to go there. I'm just trying to figure out that if the women are supposed to be the main draw (to hook up with and take back to your place) , then why the need for Oil Wrestling contests (like there is no shortage of them in the US already) , Playstation, Foosball table, etc?
Has any of the management team ever been to the Del Rey in Costa Rica, (the former) Help Disco in Rio, LDV in Cartagena, (the former) Clasicos in Sosua? They never had to do any of this stuff. They just let in hot women and the guys naturally follow.I've been to LDV, Help, and the Del Ray many times. Those places are established and don't need to do anything to have people coming in. We do. I agree, that I could care less about these extras but the proof is in the pudding. Everytime we have one, we get people coming just for that event. We also have many expats living here that ONLY come to watch the NFL games. Remember we have 2 floors. We have plenty of room to do things to keep varied groups entertained.
Do I need to state the obvious? Or are you just being cruelly sarcastic?
Its because they don't have the girls!Another ignorant comment Manny. We have 5-10 every night, but as usual you put your foot in your mouth commenting on stuff you know nothing about. The main reason we don't post many pics of the girls is because they are not hardened pros and don't want their faces splashed across the internet especially on a public site like ISG.
We just got the stripper license a few weeks ago, and have just been playing around with it until the partners could get together and start the building of the stage to turn us into a full blow strip club. That happened today, and we start work on the stage and the new Sound System tomorrow. We will announce a new Grand Opening for Liquid Strip in the next few days.
We are also starting work on our unit next door. Instead of renting an apartment, we decided to build a few small bedrooms for the out of town girls we will be hiring to be "Dancers" in our club. There will also be 4 cubicles for an existing Webcam sex company who will be moving their operation to Liquid. Upstairs on that side is the big VIP room which is mostly finished, but still has some final touches to be ready to rent out. In fact I've been staying there myself this last week.
Speaking as a young guy, I kinda enjoying going to a place that has theme nights. Don't seem to have it every night but mostly Saturdays. It's nice to enjoy a show before or afterwards chat up some chicas. I'm personally not going to just show up, do a scan of chicas and attack. I'm more laid back and enjoy a social setting. When I'm there in January it would be cool to watch a game on Sunday while chatting to some girls. Even the strip clubs here in Miami often have theme nights. I thought liquid lounge was suppose to be different then The Mansion. To each their own. Besides, Saturday January 11th is my birthday and if they do a theme night, I'm sure the girls would have fun making sure I have a fun time celebrating. Not sure if food is available at LL but that's a great idea. Some fries, nachos, burgers, chicken wings etc. But if some of you are not into kicking back and having fun playing play station with a hot chica breaking the ice then that's on you. We all have different ideas of how to meet chicas and the environment to do it in. But it's ok to be a little open minded to new ideas. Most chicas are in their 20s and still enjoy some young fun.A voice of reason. Thank you Razor. Yes, the Chicas have gotten obsessed with the foosball, and they really get into these events, especially when it's one of their friends particpating. Expect events like these ever week, including wet tshirt contests, costume strip teases, and even a professional lesbian show. Those that find this stuff boring can always go to Fase II. It's right around the corner from us.
Let us know when you're coming Razor, and we'll get one of those X rated birthday cakes. My next post will be to announce a Chica's Birthday party this Saturday.
One question on the stripper license. Can the girls get fully nude? I've been to Face Dos and San Diego about 5 times each and have never seen the panties off on stage. I can't find many good things to say about Tijuana, but one thing I like is full nude in-your-face action at Hong Kong (that and the tacos are the only positives in Tijuana). I just wondered if this was due to a law in Medellin, or against the rules of the clubs, or the women are just not as wild.
A smaller point, I also don't like the tipping at places like Face Dos. If you give them a tip on stage, they just kind-of say thanks and keep going. Then they hit you up for a mandatory tip as they walk around. In my mind, there should be no mandatory tipping, and if you get a tip on stage, for god's sake, do something. Maybe you'll get more tips on stage and won't feel the need to hit guys up for a mandatory tip.
One thing I do love about Face Dos and San Diego. The food outside. Any plans for offering food?
I'll be in Medellin this Wed-Sat and hope to visit a few times.Yes the girls can get totally nude, and most do, but not all. Some only go topless, and are paid less. There is no mandatory tipping anywhere as far as I know, but it's certainly not at Liquid. But, yes, they do go around asking for tips. We'd have a mutiny if we tried to stop that.
And yes, we have all the equipment for food, but we don't want to deal with the licensing required for an indoor restaurant. We will do something very similar to San diego. We will have a stand outside making various foods. Not sure when that will be ready though. All of us are working 12 hour days to get us to the next stage.
This Thursday night. Alejandra is one of our new girls that is making Liquid her lair. She asked, and we readily agreed to throw a little party for her. She asked for an erotic pinata. I've never heard of one, but apparently they are filled with sex toys, etc. A couple of my favorite Mansion girls are coming over as well that night. Promises to be a fun night for a Thursday. Everyone welcome.
Colombia Jake
12-04-13, 16:56
Been very busy so its been a while since my last post. Eric arrived from Iraq after having endured a year and nine months of absolutely nothing! Needless to say dude was jacked up and hitting everything we came across! Roy is arriving today and plan on taking him around the city to all the chica friendly places as well as out to the pueblos to see all aspects of life here in paradise! Girlfriend is good as you can see in the photos on my site, and lots of fun girls to help out when you get here. I'm full until January but I have a special to start off the new year! Thanks to all you guys for a really good 2013!
Jake
yes, may be surcharged a guest fee.
structure: mde la mayorita (metro station walk)
room 20,000 pesos (30 minutes)
chica: basic 20,000 (30 minutes)
anal and other service available: nominal charge (10,000 ($10) to 20,000 pesos ($20)
providers vary in age and hygiene and generally older providers past the peek.
comparison:
mde la mayorista verus tijuana zona norta (tijuana)
bogata metro calle 72 casa service (30,000 flyer) limited provider selection.
cali dr amor clinica option 60k. 75k and 90k for 1hr
room cost difference (30 minutes): minor within $2 difference.
room condition: la mayorista typically better with running water in the room.
service time (30 mins versus 20 min): tijuana 10 to 15 mins less
typical friendly attitude first time: la mayorista
less conservative sex attitude: la mayorista.
provider monthly health check: tijuana only.
first time guest option of service: open attitude la mayorista
physical safety: depending on the time of the day about the same.
health and sex safety: tijuana medical exam and health safety cost.
friendly: la mayorista (first timer)
overall cost not including travel & hotel: la mayorista 60% less than tijuana zona norte.
bogata calle 72 flyer is 20% lower than la mayorista
bogta calle 72 flyer is 50 % lower than tijuana zona norta.
cali dr amor clinica?
provider age and hygeene factors and safe sex concept: tijuana health safety card.
bogata metro calle 72 services are in limited form with limited viewing of the providers
cali dr amor clinica was just closing at 8. 55 pm (9am to 9pm) but the departing providers looked great. someone else can comment on the structure of dr amor clinica.
reposted in cali, bogat, tijuana.
if a friend is staying at the mansion is it possible to enter to visit him and have a drink at the bar?
Another ignorant comment Manny. We have 5-10 every night, but as usual you put your foot in your mouth commenting on stuff you know nothing about. The main reason we don't post many pics of the girls is because they are not hardened pros and don't want their faces splashed across the internet especially on a public site like ISG.
We just got the stripper license a few weeks ago, and have just been playing around with it until the partners could get together and start the building of the stage to turn us into a full blow strip club. That happened today, and we start work on the stage and the new Sound System tomorrow. We will announce a new Grand Opening for Liquid Strip in the next few days.
We are also starting work on our unit next door. Instead of renting an apartment, we decided to build a few small bedrooms for the out of town girls we will be hiring to be "Dancers" in our club. There will also be 4 cubicles for an existing Webcam sex company who will be moving their operation to Liquid. Upstairs on that side is the big VIP room which is mostly finished, but still has some final touches to be ready to rent out. In fact I've been staying there myself this last week.I applaud you guys for your work and dedication to getting your new establishment 'set'.
Ignore the naysayers, like you are, I can remember a certain place about a decade or so ago that was catching lots of flack and negativity as well.
That place opened as the Medellin Mansion.
I wonder how that place did. LOL.
Carry on amigo, happy holidays!
Guys,
I need the person to who can prepare the list of semi, before my coming or we will go together to the clubs with this guide and he helps to speak with the girls, cause I don't know Spanish well. That is the problem. To find and visit casas I can do it without a guide. So if you have any contacts, I would be very thankful if you give them.Http://www.colombiajake.com/
SeizeTheDay
12-05-13, 01:41
Http://www.colombiajake.com/Does Colombia Jake take you to places that are otherwise inaccessible I. E. Places that are not already listed on this site or that an experienced taxi driver would not know about? Would you recommend it to someone who has already been to Medellin?
Vegas Jeff
12-05-13, 02:08
Think about it man, these casas charge you 35K or so on average. The girl is lucky to see 20K of that, probably more like 15K. How many clients is she realistically going to have in a day? 2-3 would be an average to good day. If you offer 100K for a whole afternoon, she will almost certainly take it.You took the words right out of my mouth. I pay 100k plus 20k taxi. I am very confident that they would take 100k total but I am happy with this arrangement. Girls normally stay about 5 hours. 90-120min actual sex which includes 2+ rounds. I have never paid extra for TLN except for sometimes I give them 10k / 20k for the babysitter for the night (if they have children).
Wifed up a Blue Room chica for a few days which simply started with her asking me if I wanted to go to the Santa Fe Mall with her on a Sunday (day off). Kinda caught me by surprise, so off we went and chilled the whole afternoon. She paid for her own stuff, but I offered couple gifts or so just to keep her happy for later on. It's basically all about chemistry. If you hit it off with the girl, then most likely you'll get a chance to meet outside the work place and make it enjoyable. After a few hangouts, she even let me take a personal video of her doing the deed. Photos are pretty easy with these girls, but a video is a chance not to miss! Paid her 100K each time and we hung out from afternoon till late night.Another success story that started in a casa. It is all about chemistry is right. This is a great example of how it is done.
Vegas Jeff
12-05-13, 02:39
After my first trip I realized that the local culture is different. It is just the culture. In CO just like other Latin cultures and most Asian countries, people are way more laid back. Even if you contact one and even if the guide says otherwise, the guide will only start looking for girls after he confirms that you are in town and well situated. They are so used to things not happening on time and plans get cancelled all the time, they won't even think about planning ahead.This a nice way of putting it. When someone's word is worth nothing IMO this is a character defect. I am not judging these girls as I have not walked in their shoes. It is a character defect nonetheless. It all starts will ENVY and trickles down to lying, disrespect, and most of all selfishness. As Ricker says, these girls are complicated.
One thing that might set you apart from the other guys is to compliment the nice girls attributes and to make them feel special. When you do nice things for them you should point out that you are different also. Maybe when they go to give you a BJ give them a hairband that costs 10 cents so they aren't fighting hair out of their mouth. Say,"See I respect you. Do other guys care if you are comfortable." Guys who throw money at these girls just don't get it.
SlamCity7777
12-05-13, 03:51
This a nice way of putting it. When someone's word is worth nothing IMO this is a character defect. I am not judging these girls as I have not walked in their shoes. It is a character defect nonetheless. It all starts will ENVY and trickles down to lying, disrespect, and most of all selfishness. As Ricker says, these girls are complicated.
One thing that might set you apart from the other guys is to compliment the nice girls attributes and to make them feel special. When you do nice things for them you should point out that you are different also. Maybe when they go to give you a BJ give them a hairband that costs 10 cents so they aren't fighting hair out of their mouth. Say,"See I respect you. Do other guys care if you are comfortable." Guys who throw money at these girls just don't get it.I agree. All you have in life ultimately is your word and if your work is no good then you're no good in my book. The girls flake, that is part of the game I guess. The larger issue is like Vegas Jeff said "It all starts will envy and trickles down to lying, disrespect, and most of all selfishness. As Ricker says, these girls are complicated." The analogy crabs in a barrel does not even come close to explaining the lack of. I don't even know how to call it. Total lack of consideration for anything but the here and now. The RIGHT now. I guess it comes from the mental scars from the Narco Trafficante days. Why worry about tomorrow when the chances of you dying today are so great?
As for the girls comment. What guy carries around. 10 hairbands! Hahahah! Hold her hair for her and force her head to slob and bob! Hahah! JK JK.
Kill'them with kindness. Money works too. Truth be told there are few problems or issues in Colombia that can't be resolved with a few crispy Ben Franklins.
To people from first world economies, time is money.
To people from third world economies, time is just time.
I had this job in college, and just couldn't figure out how to get there on time. The job's income was important to my financial well being, but I just couldn't manage to show them the consideration for their time they felt they deserved for paying me on a regular basis. One day, I came in (late) and saw a guy sitting at my desk. My boss came out and explained that I no longer worked there. I was unemployed for almost a month, my financial situation went to shit and it took me a while to catch up. Since then, I've usually been on time to my commitments.
When a girl doesn't show, I wait for about 15 minutes, then I call. If there's no answer, I make other plans. If 30 minutes passes from the time she agreed to be there, I make other plans. Difficult to do when you've been looking at her sexy pics on facebook, or chewed a vitamin V and it's kicking in. But as long as she knows you'll wait, she'll make you wait.
I agree. All you have in life ultimately is your word and if your work is no good then you're no good in my book. The girls flake, that is part of the game I guess. The larger issue is like Vegas Jeff said "It all starts will envy and trickles down to lying, disrespect, and most of all selfishness. As Ricker says, these girls are complicated." The analogy crabs in a barrel does not even come close to explaining the lack of. I don't even know how to call it. Total lack of consideration for anything but the here and now. The RIGHT now. I guess it comes from the mental scars from the Narco Trafficante days. Why worry about tomorrow when the chances of you dying today are so great?
As for the girls comment. What guy carries around. 10 hairbands! Hahahah! Hold her hair for her and force her head to slob and bob! Hahah! JK JK.
Kill'them with kindness. Money works too. Truth be told there are few problems or issues in Colombia that can't be resolved with a few crispy Ben Franklins
SlamCity7777
12-05-13, 17:59
To people from first world economies, time is money.
To people from third world economies, time is just time.
I had this job in college, and just couldn't figure out how to get there on time. The job's income was important to my financial well being, but I just couldn't manage to show them the consideration for their time they felt they deserved for paying me on a regular basis. One day, I came in (late) and saw a guy sitting at my desk. My boss came out and explained that I no longer worked there. I was unemployed for almost a month, my financial situation went to shit and it took me a while to catch up. Since then, I've usually been on time to my commitments.
When a girl doesn't show, I wait for about 15 minutes, then I call. If there's no answer, I make other plans. If 30 minutes passes from the time she agreed to be there, I make other plans. Difficult to do when you've been looking at her sexy pics on facebook, or chewed a vitamin V and it's kicking in. But as long as she knows you'll wait, she'll make you wait.Yeah man! I applaud your hard learned lesson of punctuality. Back in College I had a great job waiting tables. Like $200-$400 a night for a 20yr old kid is huge money. Shucks! That's good money for 80% of the world! Hahha! Same thing. Always late, thought I was king of the world. One day they brought in a new jeffe and next thing you know I'm out of a great job. I thought it would be fine but I went on to have a run of like 4 crap jobs and set me back years money wise.
Where did you get the photo? LOL!
I applaud you guys for your work and dedication to getting your new establishment 'set'.
Ignore the naysayers, like you are, I can remember a certain place about a decade or so ago that was catching lots of flack and negativity as well.
That place opened as the Medellin Mansion.
I wonder how that place did. LOL.
Carry on amigo, happy holidays!Thanks Ricker. Always nice to hear a voice of reason in the internet jungle. It's amazing all the experts who opine about things they no little about from behind their keyboards. I'd like to see some of them actually go out and try to produce something instead of nitpicking those who are out here getting their hands dirty. It's much harder than it looks, but I'm loving every minute of it.
Ane yes, the Mansion is a great example. EVERYONE was certain it would fail, but thankfully they kept the faith. We are in a much better position than the Mansion was, and we have 2 former employees from there working for us now, so we are able to avoid many of the pitfalls that they had to experience.
On a lighter note, we just installed our brand new Colombian Sound System. We are moving the current one upstairs. We needed the new one because we are now catering our strip club to Colombians also. The stage is being built as I write, and we started construction on 3 rooms for out of town chicas to live. Each room will have bunkbeds. We just put ads in the newspapers in the little towns in rural Colombian to invite sexy Chicas to come and live with us and become exclusive for our customers. We already have 5-10 girls a night hanging out, but I want to increase the quality of girls since I'm so picky.
Member #4244
12-05-13, 21:41
To people from first world economies, time is money.
To people from third world economies, time is just time.
I had this job in college, and just couldn't figure out how to get there on time. The job's income was important to my financial well being, but I just couldn't manage to show them the consideration for their time they felt they deserved for paying me on a regular basis. One day, I came in (late) and saw a guy sitting at my desk. My boss came out and explained that I no longer worked there. I was unemployed for almost a month, my financial situation went to shit and it took me a while to catch up. Since then, I've usually been on time to my commitments.
When a girl doesn't show, I wait for about 15 minutes, then I call. If there's no answer, I make other plans. If 30 minutes passes from the time she agreed to be there, I make other plans. Difficult to do when you've been looking at her sexy pics on facebook, or chewed a vitamin V and it's kicking in. But as long as she knows you'll wait, she'll make you wait.Great observation. I am usually patient but if they lose contact then I will make other plans quickly. The key is to have two or three dependable regulars that you know can come through quickly.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 00:22
Great observation. I am usually patient but if they lose contact then I will make other plans quickly. The key is to have two or three dependable regulars that you know can come through quickly.I couldn't even imagine what this would be like for those guys who don't speak a lick of Spanish. Trying to direct a chica to where you are is hard enough. Gets even more complicated when your chica has a driver who doesn't know where the hell he is going! Add that to the traffic situation and "I'll be there in an hour" can easily turn into and hour and a half or more.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 00:59
Wendy has officially changed her (profile) name to "Wendy Inc.", lmao. I'm positive she does not follow the posts here on ISG. Wonder where she could have gotten that idea from? Hmm....
Member #4244
12-06-13, 01:33
In typical Colombian English fuck-up fashion, it actually says "Innc," unless she is spearheading a merger between Lincoln Financial and Days Inn.
ForceSteeler
12-06-13, 06:07
I have a question for you guys? The Girls are cheap? But how easy is it to score drugs, How to get a Ki of Cocaine and how much?
I know the DEA is watching? I'm planning a trip to Columbia in September, This will be my first time! I watch all the scarface face movies and read about Pablo Escobar I always wanted to know.
I've hadn't been to Medellin for a few years and it's as good or better than before. I flew Spirit and took the bus to Medellin. Saved a bundle with that combination. Then wasted a bunch at Fase II, the first club visited. I got a bottle of Rum for 85 Mil. A hot girl sat next to me and I asked if she wanted some Rum. She said yes and proceeded to order a drink. Not what I intended. Anyway, I pay 97 Mil thinking that's for hers and mine. Then a few minutes later they ask for 22 Mil additional for her drink. Turns out they added an 13 Mil propina to my charge without telling me. When I complained to management, the girl got pissed and went away. Oh yea, and her friend sitting with us ordered a 22 Mil drink without me knowing. I had to pay for that too. Wow, this place is a mess. I get out of there and I'll never return to that clip joint. San Diego treated me better, but the women are very average.
I went to Liquid Lounge on Wed night and it was a great place to hang-out. Everyone treats you well, from the owners to the girls to the bartenders. I returned tonight (Thurs) and there were about 10 girls, several were gorgeous. Very easy to hang out, chat, and party with the girls. Some semi-pros there that will let want to meet up with you for a date on another day. I got the impression they just wanted to meet decent guys to hang out with. Nothing like Fase II and San Diego.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 13:58
I have a question for you guys? The Girls are cheap? But how easy is it to score drugs, How to get a Ki of Cocaine and how much?
I know the DEA is watching? I'm planning a trip to Columbia in September, This will be my first time! I watch all the scarface face movies and read about Pablo Escobar I always wanted to know.Since you are going to Columbia, just ask your fellow politician for their local drug dealer connect.
When you are ready to go to Colombia, get back to us.
Hi,
This will be my first MDE trip in Feb. Originally planned on staying 5th-10th but need to cut it short 5th-7th. Therefor I plan on hooking up with a chica at the Mansion where I, ll be staying on one night and trying Liquid Lounge the 2nd night then leaving Fri morning to the airport. How's the action those 2 nites both places? Friday is out since my flight leaves at 8:55am.
SlamCity7777
12-06-13, 14:25
I have a question for you guys? The Girls are cheap? But how easy is it to score drugs, How to get a Ki of Cocaine and how much?
I know the DEA is watching? I'm planning a trip to Columbia in September, This will be my first time! I watch all the scarface face movies and read about Pablo Escobar I always wanted to know.The Game is to be sold, not to be told.
If you're curious about the basic prices and stuff just google that shit; you'll get a ball park number. If you're thinking about trying to go down to CO with no real world connections for weight. You're clearly out of your depth son!
Force, you cannot be for real. This is too stupid.
I have a question for you guys? The Girls are cheap? But how easy is it to score drugs, How to get a Ki of Cocaine and how much?
I know the DEA is watching? I'm planning a trip to Columbia in September, This will be my first time! I watch all the scarface face movies and read about Pablo Escobar I always wanted to know.
force, you cannot be for real. this is too stupid.anyone selling gum in park lleras, park poblado will find you any little amount you need. about 20.000 pesos a gram. the shadier looking ones there are more likely. it gets cheaper in the scarier barrios about 5.000 said my renter a g when he was in santo domingo. be advised if you get caught you will get thrown out of colombia best case scenario. worst case you get the crap beat out of you in a colombian jail. colombian police always pat you down and look through your wallet.
a kilo is about $300-450 dollars. jail time on this weight and the people you would be dealing with makes this business. well idiotic is the words that come to mind. all that weight is controlled by gangs. unless you have a death wish, just continue to sit on the couch watching blow
Thanks Ricker. Always nice to hear a voice of reason in the internet jungle. It's amazing all the experts who opine about things they no little about from behind their keyboards. I'd like to see some of them actually go out and try to produce something instead of nitpicking those who are out here getting their hands dirty. It's much harder than it looks, but I'm loving every minute of it.
On a lighter note, we just installed our brand new Colombian Sound System. We are moving the current one upstairs. We needed the new one because we are now catering our strip club to Colombians also. The stage is being built as I write, and we started construction on 3 rooms for out of town chicas to live. Each room will have bunkbeds. We just put ads in the newspapers in the little towns in rural Colombian to invite sexy Chicas to come and live with us and become exclusive for our customers. We already have 5-10 girls a night hanging out, but I want to increase the quality of girls since I'm so picky.All right Av8r, I was going to let this whole thing slide, but you are just yapping too much.
First of all, this forum is for the community of people who enjoy or are interested in the hobby. It is NOT for the proprietors of local businesses to advertise and hype their venues. I can double check, but I think that that is against Jackson's forum policy agreement. Constantly posting pictures and photos of ads is not only intrusive, its just plain desperate.
Secondly, I have noticed that there has been a string of postings over the last week by a few guys stroking you about your place. They could be genuine opinions, or they could be your buddy's planting posts. The mixed blessing of an anonymous forum is that you can never tell. What I do know is that if you go back further in the forum and read over the last few months, there are many postings by members who visited LL and were less than thrilled. I visited the mansion recently and was thinking of visiting LL, but everyone I talked to who had been there, without exception, said the place was dead.
Now I generally wish you well on your business. I really do. And as a fellow hobbyist, your thoughts are always as welcome as anyone elses. But your ads and hype are an imposition on the forum. Dial back the smack talk.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 17:28
All that weight is controlled by gangs. Unless you have a death wish, just continue to sit on the couch watching blowLMAO! Good one Barry.
But in all seriousness I think Forcdsteeler was just fucking with us. I've seen this guy do some quality reporting in the Rio and Sosua forum. I think he was probably just trying to liven things up around here.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 17:43
Manny is right.
Av8r, we wish you all the best, but do us a favor and open your own thread just as the Mansion/Casa Blanca/Hotel Medellin Plaza did and promote to your hearts content.
It's very easy in fact. Just go to the main "Colombia" thread and click "Post a New Thread" under the section entitled "User Threads". You can even post the link to it here. That way those who wish to find out more about LL will have one convenient place to get all the info they could ever want. You've already got one set up at C R T. Why not do the same on ISG?
All of these posts about "Birthday parties","NFL Promo Night","We don't let in locals because the chicas asked us not to/Now we are catering to locals as well" are breaking up the flow of this forum.
Colombian Jake: Everyone has stated that you are a stand-up guy, but I believe you could benefit from your own forum as well. The only time you come on this board is to promote "Colombian Jake", LOL. How about sharing some info sometime like Bbrocs does? Your "Colombian Jake self-testimonials" do not suffice and info. It's just self promotion. Start your own thread please.
Now I generally wish you well on your business. I really do. And as a fellow hobbyist, your thoughts are always as welcome as anyone elses. But your ads and hype are an imposition on the forum. Dial back the smack talk.He really does wish you well LL, generally, LOL.
Like SavePros advises though, it would be cool to post your 'club happenings and notices' on your own thread.
It would work out well for you, your business and all of us general well wishers.
I remember too when the 'Mansion' thread was the hot thread on the Colombia forum.
Let's see what happens with Liquid.
Good luck and happy holidays!
ForceSteeler
12-06-13, 20:00
force, you cannot be for real. this is too stupid.come on guys you think i'm really looking to buy ki's of coke? are you crazy? i just curious because i never been to colombia before and wanted to know.
i'm sure the us customs search you before you even leave colombia, i remember when i went to aruba, the usa customs office was at the airport and they search you before you even board the plane,
it usually when you land into the united states is when you see custom agents.
SavePros321
12-06-13, 20:21
Like SavePros advises though, it would be cool to post your 'club happenings and notices' on your own thread.
It would work out well for you, your business and all of us general well wishers.And he would never have to worry about "no one seeing the thread" because as long as he or other members make posts in the thread, it will always appear on the front page of ISG in bold showing that new posts in that forum have been made like it does for the "Medellin Reports" thread.
Everyone wins (LOL)!
He really does wish you well LL, generally, LOL.
Like SavePros advises though, it would be cool to post your 'club happenings and notices' on your own thread.
It would work out well for you, your business and all of us general well wishers.
I remember too when the 'Mansion' thread was the hot thread on the Colombia forum.
Let's see what happens with Liquid.
Good luck and happy holidays!"Generally" was an editing mistake. I incompletely changed a sentence. My apologies.
I really do wish his business well. The more quality venues that we can visit, the better.
But there is a limit on forum etiquette. You want to ask our opinion? Fine. But posting ads and trying to smack down members? Cmon man.
Don't forget, WE are your customers. And we can be a fickle bunch.
Legal Tender
12-07-13, 02:36
I posted some photos in the photo section. This girl appears to exhibit perfection.
Sure, I'll open a new thread. I agree that posting too much about one venue doesn't look quite right, but I didn't' realize there was another option. I let a lot of derisive comments slide, however in Manny's case he did deserve a little spanking for saying there were no girls when in fact there are at least 5-10 every night. If one makes a harsh statement like that he better be able to back it up because I will always jump in and defend the truth. I don't care what things were like in the past, it is not that way now. It is also rude to suggest I am getting friends to post flattering comments. It is absolutely untrue and I resent the implication. I do not operate dishonestly, and if I'm accused of it I will defend that vigorously as well.
Thanks for all the great suggestions here. I have implemented many of them, and I can assure you that Liquid is here to stay for the foreseeable future, and will continue to improve in many different ways.
SavePros321
12-07-13, 03:48
Come on guys you think I'm really looking to buy KI's of Coke? Are you crazy? I just curious because I never been to Colombia before and wanted to know.
I'm sure the US Customs search you before you even leave Colombia, I remember when I went to Aruba, The USA Customs Office was at the airport and they search you before you even board the plane,
It usually when you land into the United States is when you see Custom Agents.The Military Police are out in full force at MDE airport with the drug sniffing dogs both coming and going. You also have to empty your entire carry on luggage and someone goes through every compartment while asking you questions. If your flight is going through Panama you also have to do the exact same thing before you can board the flight from Panama back to the US. Once you get to the US you have to go through customs and possibly get "Secondaried" like I did once.
They have all of their bases covered bro, LOL.
The Military Police are out in full force at MDE airport with the drug sniffing dogs both coming and going. You also have to empty your entire carry on luggage and someone goes through every compartment while asking you questions. If your flight is going through Panama you also have to do the exact same thing before you can board the flight from Panama back to the US. Once you get to the US you have to go through customs and possibly get "Secondaried" like I did once.
They have all of their bases covered bro, LOL.And You didn't even mention the possibility of abdominal xrays on departing MDE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXlynFRwJwA
Sure, I'll open a new thread. I agree that posting too much about one venue doesn't look quite right, but I didn't' realize there was another option. I let a lot of derisive comments slide, however in Manny's case he did deserve a little spanking for saying there were no girls when in fact there are at least 5-10 every night. If one makes a harsh statement like that he better be able to back it up because I will always jump in and defend the truth. I don't care what things were like in the past, it is not that way now. It is also rude to suggest I am getting friends to post flattering comments. It is absolutely untrue and I resent the implication. I do not operate dishonestly, and if I'm accused of it I will defend that vigorously as well.
Thanks for all the great suggestions here. I have implemented many of them, and I can assure you that Liquid is here to stay for the foreseeable future, and will continue to improve in many different ways.You think you spanked me? Thats a laugh!
I changed my mind. Here's hoping your place goes under. And I"ll again repeat that every single person that I talked to at the Mansion said that Liquid Lounge was absolutely dead all week.
SeizeTheDay
12-07-13, 04:49
The Military Police are out in full force at MDE airport with the drug sniffing dogs both coming and going. You also have to empty your entire carry on luggage and someone goes through every compartment while asking you questions. If your flight is going through Panama you also have to do the exact same thing before you can board the flight from Panama back to the US. Once you get to the US you have to go through customs and possibly get "Secondaried" like I did once.
They have all of their bases covered bro, LOL.When did this start, I experienced none of this when I left Medellin or Panama. Is this only during certain times of the year? My exit was smooth as far as I was concerned.
When did this start, I experienced none of this when I left Medellin or Panama. Is this only during certain times of the year? My exit was smooth as far as I was concerned.It's ongoing and random, Here's a 45 min video if you got the time, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adACpEk8Ss0
Legal Tender
12-07-13, 05:10
The Military Police are out in full force at MDE airport with the drug sniffing dogs both coming and going. You also have to empty your entire carry on luggage and someone goes through every compartment while asking you questions. If your flight is going through Panama you also have to do the exact same thing before you can board the flight from Panama back to the US. Once you get to the US you have to go through customs and possibly get "Secondaried" like I did once.
They have all of their bases covered bro, LOL.SavePros knows what he's talking about. On every exit the inspections are not the same. Carry on luggage is examined at least three times, and the dogs check all the checked luggage. Interesting, the dogs on arrival are not the same. They're trained to smell dollars, not drugs. Those that get their "ideas" from movies soon find that reality is not a movie. I don't think that anyone who has any experience in Medellin would suggest that anyone seek out large amounts of drugs. You do not want to fuck with those people. No exception. No reconsideration. The very though of trying to smuggle any drugs out of the airport in Rio Negro makes me wonder if there is a suicide ideation. Not as good of odds as drawing to an inside straight, and the consequences are much more substantial.
Only good energy, and it can't co-exist with stupid
SavePros321
12-07-13, 05:26
When did this start, I experienced none of this when I left Medellin or Panama. Is this only during certain times of the year? My exit was smooth as far as I was concerned.Were you on Copa/United Airlines? It has happened without fail on each of my trips.
In Panama they block off the boarding gate area and you have to go through an inspection of your luggage, take off your shoes, empty your pockets, etc., before you can enter the boarding area. I am referring to the return trip back to the US. You do not have to do this going from the US to Panama to MDE.
SeizeTheDay
12-07-13, 06:41
Were you on Copa / United Airlines? It has happened without fail on each of my trips.
In Panama they block off the boarding gate area and you have to go through an inspection of your luggage, take off your shoes, empty your pockets, etc, before you can enter the boarding area. I am referring to the return trip back to the US. You do not have to do this going from the US to Panama to MDE.I flew Copa. They sealed off the area at Panama but they did not open my bag, it just went through the scanner. I had to remove my belt and shoes but nothing else really. I did not find these things to be excessive; I have had much worse just trying to enter into my Junior High School.
You think you spanked me? Thats a laugh!
I changed my mind. Here's hoping your place goes under. And I"ll again repeat that every single person that I talked to at the Mansion said that Liquid Lounge was absolutely dead all week.True colors always show eventually;)
There ain't no better dude then av8er. Freaking Period!
I'm here, I'm a BM here!
I want to know what's going on.
Liquid Strip is important to me and any other BM here w / half a brain.
Manny51 you are a good dude but you're going down the wrong path here, please don't continue.
There is a lot of extraneous shit here on the Med. thread and that's just business as usual, freaking period!
Do I want to read page after page about Levitra vs Viagra? Or about how conniving Colombianas are, page after page after page? No I fucking don't!
This forum is for on the ground intel, I / e casas, escorts, strip clubs, hotels, streetwalkers, police activities etc. Brah!
Let this shit go Manny51. Things are getting way out of proportion.
Liquid Strip is an important aspect of mongering in Medellin. It's a new place struggling to find it's way, let it be, leave it alone.
Av8r, your position is understood, I want to see the pics here and I want to hear the updates here on the Medellin board, please continue w / your updates.
I am very interested and enjoy seeing some positive changes in the Medellin mongering scene.
This place (Medellin Reports) is so full of bullshit and fat, why fuck w / guys that are working to maker a better scene in Meddy.
Manny51 you are a sharp dude, we are like minded, lets move on and enjoy the show.
Where's the GOOD pussy?
My dick is being sucked and it is good!
That's what's importanrt Brah, right?
SavePros321
12-07-13, 15:17
What is a "BM"?
There ain't no better dude then av8er.
I want to know what's going on.
Liquid Strip is important to me and any other BM here w / half a brain.
Manny51 you are a good dude but you're going down the wrong path here, please don't continue.
There is a lot of extraneous shit here on the Med. Thread and that's just business as usual, freaking period!
Do I want to read page after page about Levitra vs Viagra? Or about how conniving Colombianas are, page after page after page? No I fucking don't!
This forum is for on the ground intel, I / e casas, escorts, strip clubs, hotels, streetwalkers, police activities etc. Brah!
Let this shit go Manny51. Things are getting way out of proportion.
Liquid Strip is an important aspect of mongering in Medellin. It's a new place struggling to find it's way, let it be, leave it alone.
Av8r, your position is understood, I want to see the pics here and I want to hear the updates here on the Medellin board, please continue w / your updates.
I am very interested and enjoy seeing some positive changes in the Medellin mongering scene."Hear Hear", I'll second that and reiterate that a seperate Liquid Lounge thread would be good for noticias and such too.
Good for readers as well as the Liquid Lounge.
Unfornunately, I suspect that the drama will continue with 'I wish you well, oh but now I don't, your place is dead', etc, etc. LOL.
Seriously, guys have been asking for and wanting for years, literally years, a free-lance pick up place in Medellin.
Now, some investors get together to actually try and give it a go, and guys are bashing it already.
Por favor! Que loco!
I can understand the separate thread idea for sure. Good idea, just like when the Mansion was new with lots of news.
I really don't get the drama though.
Happy holidays!
SavePros321
12-07-13, 15:43
there ain't no better dude then av8er. freaking period!what about
-ricker
-wiltthestilt
-vegas jeff
-bbrocs
-slamcity777
-legal tender
-chesrep001
-vitrea
-etc
?
they all provide good intel, insights, and opinions that help keep this forum interesting (and some of them have been on isg longer than most of us). they (except bbrocs) don't have anything to sell you either, lol.
as for bbrocs, he has always kept any offer mentions for his poblado rentals in the medellin hotels & apartments thread. he even goes out of his way to provide info that is in direct competition to his business.
It's ongoing and random, Here's a 45 min video if you got the time,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adACpEk8Ss0This was a pretty good watch. I am amazed that guys would smuggle drugs for what they think is the love of woman. Craaaazy!
Member #4287
12-07-13, 22:07
what about
-ricker
-wiltthestilt.
-vegas jeff.
-bbrocs.
-slamcity777.
-legal tender.
-chesrep001.
-vitrea.
-etc.
?
they all provide good intel, insights, and opinions that help keep this forum interesting (and some of them have been on isg longer than most of us). they (except bbrocs) don't have anything to sell you either, lol.
as for bbrocs, he has always kept any offer mentions for his poblado rentals in the medellin hotels & apartments thread. he even goes out of his way to provide info that is in direct competition to his business.i'm sure that all the guys you mentioned are nice guys and most are better contributors to this board than av8er.
but av8er is personally a great guy who loves medellin and is willing to put his heart and soul into an endeavor to make it a better place for us medellin mongers. i don't know of a single american that ever went into business in colombia where getting the biggest roi was the deciding factor. there are just so many ways to make more money easier than doing business in colombia.
av8er has a lot of experience in the medellin p4p scene and i think he would be better received here if he spent a little more time giving us some of his insights as to what is going on as a whole in medellin rather than just giving updates on his night club.
Member #4244
12-07-13, 23:34
Let me know when the popularity contest is over. Or Legal Tender posts more pics of that jovencita!
Wow, I wish the Chicas would fight over me like this ja ja.
I started to open a new thread last night, but then we got slammed at Liquid. Regardless what anyone says I assure you that these days Liquid is a great party almost every night. Sometimes it is busy for an hour or so, and then a group of guys will take off, and it will get quiet for awhile. Then another group comes in, and it gets busy again. So it's possible for someone to drop by, take a quick look and infer that it is dead.
Anyway, I will stop posting here and open the new thread. I am also going to create a private blog for Liquid that will include all the spicy fotos and videos from liquid as well as all my media as a mongerer for the last 10 years. I have literally thousands of fotos and hours of video from all my trips to Thailand, Colombia, Rio, CR, and even Tijuana. The only way to get the password is to know me personally already, or drop by Liquid, and get it there in person. I already have almost a hundred people on the list, and I am perfectly happy to have many more but I have to be very careful that no chica fotos become public. The girls trust me completely because of my years of treating them well and keeping their identities private.
And I am perfectly happy to provide fair intel on my competitors. I have never been the type of businessman to pretend that I'm the only game in town. There are many other venues in Medellin that are great. I give directions almost every night to our customers that want to walk over to FaseII.
I'll be down there in 8 days and I can't wait to check out Liquid. Those more quality venues for us mongers, the better.
I admire most of you senior members because you have been there and done that. I am still quite new to the P4P scene and Medellin in general. I value this site for the intel AND reading the amazing stories that we can all sit back and just imagine was beyond fun. I appreciate a place posting info on their establishment. Especially if it's open to us American, (or other nationality) mongers looking to have fun! Obviously the mansion is for a select few based on staying at their place and that is their decision. It sounds like a fun place to stay but I personally rather stay at a quiet upscale location. I wouldn't mind paying a 30/50k cop to enter the hotel and have a drink with some gringos to shoot the shit with and chat at the bar and of course grab a hot chica for a few hours of fun. But it's not acceptable and that's their decision. So if LL is open for us to meet and chat and pickup girls then GREAT! For some of us that are new to this playing field, we value opinions but realize that often times we let our ego's and personal preferences interfere with what is best for everyone. This site is open to the public and of course those of us that paid the site get to interact.
Yeah it would be nice to have Av8r get a thread to post all his pictures and web links so we can enjoy and those interested strictly with his establish can chat, but relax and just enjoy the site for what it is. I have barely read any useful intel on here in awhile. If his place is catering to getting laid then he is doing what this site is designed to do. Get us laid! That is afterall our overall primary goal. The Medellin list has some useful intel but as you seniors know already, it can still be a hit or miss. So interacting with an establishments management has its advantages. We should all try to get along to some point. We don't have to sit with each other drinking beers but we can at least help each other out and be civil.
You all know my sob story with my ex and I hope you all are going to extend a smile and a handshake if I come across you during my two weeks in January. Av8r is nice enough to help me celebrate my birthday and I am grateful. No, I never met him and never met any other monger but, if anyone is wanting to chat while I'm in Medellin about their fun times in MED then chat it up with me. Even being somewhat younger than most I have some life stories to make those of you laugh or cringe, whether it is about my Marine Corps days or later profession that I was stuck at for 10 years wearing a badge and in a cruiser with blue lights losing out of fun because of my position. I'm single, not in a position of authority any longer, and I want to have fun finally. So to the majority of you here making me smile with your stories I thank you! But guys, please relax and just enjoy life amongst the beautiful Colombian women that have allowed us to partake in their desires to be with non Colombian men, albeit for money or gifts LOL.
This was a pretty good watch. I am amazed that guys would smuggle drugs for what they think is the love of woman. Craaaazy!Glad that you enjoyed it, Even funnier is the crazy shit everyone of us has done to get some pussy!
SavePros321
12-08-13, 04:31
Here is the link to Av8r's new Liquid Lounge/Strip thread. Pics included:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3546-LIQUID-STRIP-(formerly-Liquid-Lounge)
Support his thread!
While in his thread, click "thread tools" in the upper right-hand corner and select "subscribe to this thread" so that you are notified when there are new posts made in that thread.
SavePros321
12-08-13, 05:49
Glad that you enjoyed it, Even funnier is the crazy shit everyone of us has done to get some pussy!Seriously! Don't be that Italian guy who started crying once he knew his life was completely over as the police and DEA were searching through is luggage."I was going to be with my girlfriend", LOL. Sadly his new girlfriend's name will be "Rosey Palm".
I would have never guessed that Colombianas were turning mongers into "mules", lol. Like the great line said in the movie There's Just Something About Mary:
"Love will make you do some fucked up things"
The interview they had with the hitman was eye-opening.
Thanks for the video link.
BlancoVikingo
12-08-13, 14:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adACpEk8Ss0
According to this video Colombia exports 450 tons of cocaine worth of 67 billion USD street vaule. 67 $US billion, compared to cia. Gov factbook, Colombias GNP is $US 366 billion.
That means that Colombian cocaine has a street vaule of 18% of Colombias GNP, but of course of this figure maybe max. 30-50% goes back to Colombia. Even so it is amazing that this can go on and on since the 1960/1970.
Very interesting documentaries about those day are "Cocaine Cowboys", but actually the most dangerous person was a female, personified in Oliver Stone's "Savages" as a Mexican Madrina.
Stone may have portrayed her as a Mexican, but she was Colombian.
http://www.ibtimes.com/colombian-drug-lord-griselda-blancos-life-violence-comes-full-circle-761125
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adACpEk8Ss0
According to this video Colombia exports 450 tons of cocaine worth of 67 billion USD street vaule. 67 $US billion, compared to cia. Gov factbook, Colombias GNP is $US 366 billion.
That means that Colombian cocain has a street vaule of 18% of Colombias GNP, but of course of this figure maybe max. 30-50% goes back to Colombia. Even so it is amazing that this can go on and on since the 1960/1970.
Very interesting documentaries about those day are "Cocaine Cowboys", but actually the most dangerous person was a female, personified in Oliver Stone's "Savages" as a Mexican Madrina.
Member #4394
12-08-13, 17:01
It seems to me that your ratio is not really a relevant indicator, since the calculated ratio is the "US" market value to "Colombian" GNP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adACpEk8Ss0
That means that Colombian cocain has a street vaule of 18% of Colombias GNP, but of course of this figure maybe max. 30-50% goes back to Colombia. Even so it is amazing that this can go on and on since the 1960/1970.
I can only assume that things were so quiet last night because it was the beginning of the next phase of the long Christmas season here with many people lighting candles.
Phase II had maybe a dozen women (and probably fewer men) compared to 40 or 50 on Wednesday. Luna Lunera had two women (and no men). Liquid Lounge actually had about a dozen women which was the number I expected. Unfortunately the quality of women in all three bars were below the standards of my amigo and me so we didn't stay long in any of the bars.
FYI, we had a lot of trouble finding Liquid Lounge. The map on their card was very inaccurate. I think there was a comment in this forum that it is "around the corner" but it is actually around 5 blocks away and across a major street. Several people we asked had no idea and finally a taxi driver was able to circle around and get to it.
FoxesHunter
12-08-13, 18:34
Friends,
I'd like to express my thoughts. I love both Colombia and Peru. I like more Colombia for the "casas" and Peru for girlfriend experiences. I tried to chat with some girls on Badoo and I have notices Peruvian girls are more active in reply.
What is your opinion?
Vegas Jeff
12-08-13, 18:46
Since I did not get kicked out of the club after my recent posts and because I received some positive responses, I will write some more. I am smoking some new pot and feel motivated to write. Well here goes.
Two days ago I had one of my regular working girls that I met 6 months ago in a Centro MP. I have been with her about 15 times. She arrived and stayed for about 5 hours. 2 hours of total sex. 2 great sessions. Everything uncovered. No anal. Sex with her is as good as with my girlfriend. 100k plus 30k for taxis both directions. She respects that I have a girlfriend and never calls me. She is easy to get in touch with and always shows up within 30 minutes of the scheduled time.
Unlike many of you guys, who have scheduled dates and go dancing or out to eat, I almost always stay in my apartment. I do things from playing video games to watching concerts on my computer. I cook and do other things all while listening to mostly salsa and raggaeton. When girls come to my room it is like 2 horny 15 year olds dating who don't own cars yet. This is the thing I love about the Medellin sex scene that I was not able to get in Costa Rica. The attitude outside the pro scene is very different.
After she left I met up with Monger Jonesie. I hadn't seen him in a year and half. We have a long history dating back to Costa Rica.
Stopped by a casino in San Diego before checking out the street scene. There were definitely a few cute girls to had there. For some crazy reason Jonesie wanted to take a picture with the trannies. Did not go well as Jonesie got in a fist fight and, while diving back into the cab, got spit on.
Off to the Mayo. Tables were out and things seemed as usual. Jonesie pulled a girl which I think he paid 50k including BBBJ.
Neither of these scenes are for me. It would take a lot for me to take something from either. I passed on both but was happy to just be hanging out.
Yesterday I made a Centro MP run. I normally start at Sarita / Leidy and work my way from there. Pulled a girl from the first spot.
Valedia. I saw just what I was looking for in Valedia. I was looking for an aggressive sex session and knew that I could get it from her. I have been with Valedia twice before. I had sex with her and her sister in their first week six months ago. She was better than ever. She had improved her skills and was still sweet. It is usually the other way around after 6 months.
She started by giving me a thirty minute excellent BBBJ and showed no signs of fatigue. She could have gone another 30 minutes. I use my smart phone as a clock and turn off the screen saver when in-session in El Centro. With my phone right next to me I answer a call from Jonesie during BBBJ to meet up after my session. I am crazy like that. After BBBJ I had sex with Valedia in a few regular positions for a short amount of time. Very good and connected. Valedia is not an emotional girl and doesn't make noise but enjoys sex. I am not sure if she is a kisser or not as I don't have that connection with her. Now comes to the reason why I took her. I am not a huge anal sex guy but anal sex is great with her. In easy and off we go. After a medium pace for 10 minutes I am pounding her hard now. I see a tint of dark on the condom. I gently take the condom off, hop in the shower, and rinse off my goods with soap. She does the same. Doesn't kill the mood at all. Back in the bed in a minute. I throw on another condom and after a few minutes in missionary and a hard pounding in doggie I blast in the condom. 1 hr 60k.
I sometimes offer girls 20k BBBJ upfront. Some girls I give an additional 20k for anal in-session. This was the third time I had been Valedia, and like the previous 2 times, I gave her 20k tip total which she appreciated.
After my session I met up with Jonesie and another guy at the second floor place, chica punto I think. About 10 girls in the lineup. Some doable. Nothing special. Went up to the third floor place, sf I think, and a little better talent there. About 6-7 girls. Jonesie pulled a girl. He said that she was good. Don't remember her name or the price.
While Jonesie was in session I saw a former MP manager on the street and asked him if he could score me some kripa. I made it very clear kripa or nothing. No regular weed! He said it was 2.5k / joint. I gave him 35k for 15 joints and told him I would give him 15k tip when he got back. In 10 minutes he was back with the stuff. After smoking it as I am writing this, it about as good as I could have expected. Just a little better than regular weed from the states.
After getting weed and meeting up with Jonesie, off we went to do non-mongering related things.
Sorry guys but I am not a photo taker. I have photos of 25 of the 500 girls that I did in Costa Rica on a camera at home. I will be putting them on the CR board when I get back.
When I was in Costa Rica for 6 years, about 3 months per year, I had sex 10-12 times per week. I missed a day a month. All pay.
Being in Colombia for 2 1/2 years, about 5 months per year, I have sex 5-6 week. I miss 2 days a week now. 3-4 pays per week.
Although I know the lay of the land pretty well, I do not frequent the regular P4P scene as often as some of you vets. I will try to give updates on changes in the scene as I see them.
After reading the Medellin board, over the past year, the reason IMO this board is such a landmine is because Medellin is so individualized. Expats, and tourists alike, are doing so many different things with their time. Individual experiences can vary dramatically from the time you spend with each girl, to where you go and what you do.
Advice to newbies: There is a learning curve in this hobby. Every experienced hobbyist has horror stories. You will also. Use your mind to get better and leave your heart at home.
Advice to all: Be civil with your fellow board members and wish them well. We can all learn something that enhances our future experiences. I am pulling for all of you to have a great time on your adventures.
Good luck again to all.
VJ
Gentlemen, I've been reading this forum off and on over the past six months and have made a decision to go to Medellin. I plan to live there for about 3 months for a couple of reasons in March. 1 is to learn spanish by taking up a course in one of their university. 2. Of course the mongering. 3. Getting to know the locals. I'm usually on the Tijuana board posting but I've had my fill and want to try a new dish. Not too worried about cost but at the the same time not stupid. I plan to live in the El Pablado area since I hear this is the place to be at. At the same time I want to be close to the area where I can on a whim make decision to go to the places like Liquid, Mansion. Etc. So the question is, how close are these places, a bank I can use where I don't get hit up with too much transaction fees. Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for. Any advice on the locals as well. Many Thanks for all advices.
Vegas Jeff
12-08-13, 19:58
Gentlemen, I've been reading this forum off and on over the past six months and have made a decision to go to Medellin. I plan to live there for about 3 months for a couple of reasons in March. 1 is to learn spanish by taking up a course in one of their university. 2. Of course the mongering. 3. Getting to know the locals. I'm usually on the Tijuana board posting but I've had my fill and want to try a new dish. Not too worried about cost but at the the same time not stupid. I plan to live in the El Pablado area since I hear this is the place to be at. At the same time I want to be close to the area where I can on a whim make decision to go to the places like Liquid, Mansion. Etc. So the question is, how close are these places, a bank I can use where I don't get hit up with too much transaction fees. Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for.Banks are everywhere. Not a concern. I would recommend the Laureles / Estadio area. Coming from Tijuana, this would be a good transition. You will not get the same cultural experience in El Poblado. UPB in Laureles has good Spanish classes.
SavePros321
12-08-13, 21:23
So the question is, how close are these places, a bank I can use where I don't get hit up with too much transaction fees. Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for. Any advice on the locals as well. Many Thanks for all advices.-To get to el centro (casas) or barrio Colombia (Liquid Lounge, Fase Dos, etc.) you will have to take a taxi. You can take the bus to and from el centro, but I have no experience doing so, so can't comment.
-As for banking, open up a Schwab free checking account before you go, and use ATM's that charge a fee. Schwab will refund all fees charged for ATM transactions. See the "Colombian Peso exchange rate and related issues" thread for more info on this. Bbrocs has explained this in length, so look for the posts by him.
-I don't have any info on Spanish classes
What is a "BM"?Board Member
SeizeTheDay
12-08-13, 21:52
Gentlemen, I've been reading this forum off and on over the past six months and have made a decision to go to Medellin. I plan to live there for about 3 months for a couple of reasons in March. 1 is to learn spanish by taking up a course in one of their university. 2. Of course the mongering. 3. Getting to know the locals. I'm usually on the Tijuana board posting but I've had my fill and want to try a new dish. Not too worried about cost but at the the same time not stupid. I plan to live in the El Pablado area since I hear this is the place to be at. At the same time I want to be close to the area where I can on a whim make decision to go to the places like Liquid, Mansion. Etc. So the question is, how close are these places, a bank I can use where I don't get hit up with too much transaction fees. Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for. Any advice on the locals as well. Many Thanks for all advices.Pablado is a nice area to stay in, but has relatively nothing to offer in the way of mongering. Centro is where you want to be, there are casas, street scene chicas, and clubs. But I think some people like the comfort and safety of Pablado. So my advice is to skip Pablado if you can.
FoxesHunter
12-08-13, 22:04
Two years ago I went to Medellin. The best place for me is the center of Medellin. You are right but it was dangerous at night walking alone. Is it safer now?
So my advice is to skip Pablado if you can.Are there accommodations in Central that you recommend?
FoxesHunter
12-08-13, 22:08
Are there accommodations in Central that you recommend?But is you find a interesting hotel or apartment, you cannot walk alone in the night.
I can only assume that things were so quiet last night because it was the beginning of the next phase of the long Christmas season here with many people lighting candles.
Phase II had maybe a dozen women (and probably fewer men) compared to 40 or 50 on Wednesday. Luna Lunera had two women (and no men). Liquid Lounge actually had about a dozen women which was the number I expected. Unfortunately the quality of women in all three bars were below the standards of my amigo and me so we didn't stay long in any of the bars.
FYI, we had a lot of trouble finding Liquid Lounge. The map on their card was very inaccurate. I think there was a comment in this forum that it is "around the corner" but it is actually around 5 blocks away and across a major street. Several people we asked had no idea and finally a taxi driver was able to circle around and get to it.Sorry you had trouble finding us. You're not the first, and I will have to add that to my ever growing list of things to do.
It's very difficult to keep a group of 9's and 10's at Liquid all the time. I have mentioned here that I am working on increasing the quality of women at Liquid. Having said that, he must be extremely picky. We had Lina, Kathe, Chris from the Mansion, and Alejandra our birthday girl, and a few others. I am very picky myself, but there were at least 4 chicas there throughout the night that I would have been happy to take home.
SeizeTheDay
12-08-13, 23:31
Are there accommodations in Central that you recommend?Not from personal experience, but there have been some recommendations from other members on this forum. I have recently been planning my next trip, so I have been on airbnb often as of late.
"Hear Hear", I'll second that and reiterate that a seperate Liquid Lounge thread would be good for noticias and such too.
Good for readers as well as the Liquid Lounge.
Unfornunately, I suspect that the drama will continue with 'I wish you well, oh but now I don't, your place is dead', etc, etc. LOL.
Seriously, guys have been asking for and wanting for years, literally years, a free-lance pick up place in Medellin.
Now, some investors get together to actually try and give it a go, and guys are bashing it already.
Por favor! Que loco!
I can understand the separate thread idea for sure. Good idea, just like when the Mansion was new with lots of news.
I really don't get the drama though.
Happy holidays!
For the record this is what fueled my recent exuberance.
The Manhattan and it's maker...
Gentlemen, I've been reading this forum off and on over the past six months and have made a decision to go to Medellin. I plan to live there for about 3 months for a couple of reasons in March. 1 is to learn spanish by taking up a course in one of their university. 2. Of course the mongering. 3. Getting to know the locals. I'm usually on the Tijuana board posting but I've had my fill and want to try a new dish. Not too worried about cost but at the the same time not stupid. I plan to live in the El Pablado area since I hear this is the place to be at. At the same time I want to be close to the area where I can on a whim make decision to go to the places like Liquid, Mansion. Etc. So the question is, how close are these places, a bank I can use where I don't get hit up with too much transaction fees. Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for. Any advice on the locals as well. Many Thanks for all advices.You were very helpful on the Tijuana forum. Thanks.
All of us have different tastes, priorities and budgets. My strong recommendation for a first timer to MDE is to stay in Poblado. Taxis are cheap. I have couple of favorite places I rent and I have posted them in the Apartment thread. I can PM if you can't find them. Rest of your questions are answered by smarter people than me.
Gentlemen,uid, Mansion. Etc.Any suggestions on the spanish classes (I plan of course to use the rosetta stone until I get there) and what to look out for. Any advice on the locals as well. Many Thanks for all advices.Oh! Don't invest in Rosetta Stone. Waste of time and money. Pimsleur Spanish is way cheaper and more user friendly / effective.
You were very helpful on the Tijuana forum. Thanks.
All of us have different tastes, priorities and budgets. My strong recommendation for a first timer.
To MDE is to stay in Poblado. Taxis are cheap. I have couple of favorite places I rent and I have posted them in the Apartment thread. I can PM if you can't find them. Rest of your questions are answered by smarter people than me.Thank you. I'm leaning toward Poblado as advise by you and a couple other members as a first time. Once I get more confident with my spanish and area maybe on my return trip I will stay in other areas. I'd rather play the safety card first until then. So far I've been on the AIRbnb and looking at some places and I have a couple in mind. Appreciate all the help from you and others. Those who have stayed in the Poblado area, any issues bring home any guests? I'm renting a whole apt by myself so I don't think its an issue but what about the ladies? Do they outcall to this area? How are the neighbors if they see you have a guest? Are the neighbors frowning upon us?
Legal Tender
12-09-13, 00:28
This is a documentary about the main prison in Bogota. Unbelieveable, and a glimpse into Colombian social structure and society.
http://youtu.be/3YgixIJnyh4
The other is a short (2 minutes plus) about a beauty pageant in the women's prison in Colombia.
http://youtu.be/emNxOcDRkYY
Because of the hills, ravines, twisty roads, and one way streets it can be very confusing to navigate in Poblado. We are in an apartment about 5 blocks up from El Poblado and more than half the taxi drivers have gotten lost going to our place by just its address. I would recommend staying down near El Poblado (the main road) to avoid that problem and also being within walking distance of Parque Lleras where there are lots of restaurants, shops, etc.
It is our first time here so I can't compare against other regions but we have been happy in Poblado.
Thank you. I'm leaning toward Poblado as advise by you and a couple other members as a first time.
SavePros321
12-09-13, 02:51
those who have stayed in the poblado area, any issues bring home any guests? i'm renting a whole apt by myself so i don't think its an issue but what about the ladies? do they outcall to this area? how are the neighbors if they see you have a guest? are the neighbors frowning upon us?you won't have any problems unless you unnecessarily make problems for yourself. observe:
from c r t posted by estabahn (about an gringo getting shaken down for messing with ****d chicas)
"i am passing on second hand information from a reliable source:
a gringo visitor invited a chica he had connected with on facebook to his apartment. apparently, she was __________ and he was unaware of _______. she was followed shortly by two (fake) cops. they demanded and got $3000.00 from the guy.
this is all unconfirmed and normally i would not spread innuendo, but this is important stuff to know. if people get the idea they can do this, it will happen more.
if i get more info about this, i will post.
edited to comply with the rule 22. i know tweedledee is very sensitive about this subject."
you won't have any problems unless you unnecessarily make problems for yourself. observe:
from c r t posted by estabahn (about an gringo getting shaken down for messing with ****d chicas)
"i am passing on second hand information from a reliable source:
a gringo visitor invited a chica he had connected with on facebook to his apartment. apparently, she was __________ and he was unaware of _______. she was followed shortly by two (fake) cops. they demanded and got $3000. 00 from the guy.
this is all unconfirmed and normally i would not spread innuendo, but this is important stuff to know. if people get the idea they can do this, it will happen more.
if i get more info about this, i will post.
edited to comply with the rule 22. i know tweedledee is very sensitive about this subject."thanks for the info. i will keep my wits about me and no i won't be inviting girls that look that young to begin with.
I got a huge chuckle from this question! If you're staying in an Apt in an upper class building, depending on who your neighbor is, I'd have to say YES, I have received the Colombian version of "stink eye"on more than one occasion while riding in the elevator with my hooker.
SeizeTheDay
12-09-13, 03:59
This is a documentary about the main prison in Bogota. Unbelieveable, and a glimpse into Colombian social structure and society.
http://youtu.be/3YgixIJnyh4
The other is a short (2 minutes plus) about a beauty pageant in the women's prison in Colombia.
http://youtu.be/emNxOcDRkYYThis is amazing, the women in Colombia's prisons look better than most of the women in America.
SavePros321
12-09-13, 04:15
I got a huge chuckle from this question! If you're staying in an Apt in an upper class building, depending on who your neighbor is, I'd have to say YES, I have received the Colombian version of "stink eye"on more than one occasion while riding in the elevator with my hooker.TweedleD is right. Try to rent from Bbrocs, the owner of Poblado Rentals. He owns his buildings (some of them), so there are not any problems with the neighbors. He will let you know which of his properties are ok to cut loose in, and which ones you have to act a bit more conservative.
http://pobladorentals.com
Legal Tender
12-09-13, 06:13
A gringo visitor invited a chica he had connected with on Facebook to his apartment. Apparently, she was __________ and he was unaware of _______. She was followed shortly by two (fake) cops. They demanded and got $3000. 00 from the guy.
This is all unconfirmed and normally I would not spread innuendo, but this is important stuff to know. If people get the idea they can do this, it will happen more. [/i]I see quite a bit of discussion about safety on the street, and in clubs. What is reported by innuendo is a real potential reality. I'm often concerned about the first-time visitors to Medellin that knows nothing about the city, the conditions in Colombia, and often times little or no Spanish. They want to start this virgin adventure in an apartment by themselves? That's why I strongly advocate that the first-time visitor consider staying at the mansion where there is almost always seasoned veterans, and substantial vetting of the girls that come there.
Medellin is filled with very desperate people, and some of them are beautiful young women. Life is not risk-free. But you've got to realize that every gringo is a potential target, whether from a novio that's in on a robbery, a crooked cop, or the fake cop.
SavePros Report is from a guy that knows his way around the city, and I'm sure it is intended to be food for thought for all of us. The newbie and the guys that have been around a while, a like.
Banks are everywhere. Not a concern. I would recommend the Laureles / Estadio area. Coming from Tijuana, this would be a good transition. You will not get the same cultural experience in El Poblado. UPB in Laureles has good Spanish classes.I agree, I have always liked this area, and a quick metro ride to el Centro or Poblado.
Hunter,
I thinking about mixing things up and doing 5-7 days in Lima before heading to MDE. Is it worth my precious vacation time? I've been to Peru once before, but I didn't spend much time in Lima before heading to Cusco and Macchu Picchu. I didn't notice the Peru women to be as hot as those in Colombia. But I'm thinking in a City the size of Lima, there has to be some good ones. Looking for comments on how worthwhile Lima is for mongering.
Thanks.
Friends,
I'd like to express my thoughts. I love both Colombia and Peru. I like more Colombia for the "casas" and Peru for girlfriend experiences. I tried to chat with some girls on Badoo and I have notices Peruvian girls are more active in reply.
What is your opinion?
The cost of a Paisa
The 5 Stradas of working girls in Medellin.
Strada 5: Mansion Paisas. 80K-100K ST & 150K TLN.
Strada 4: Casa Paisas. 30K. 150K ST and 100K. 150K TLN.
Strada 3.1: Stripclub chicas. 50K ST.
Strada 3: Mayorista Paisas. 25K ST & 80K-150K TLN.
Strada 2: San Diego street Paisas. 50K ST & 100K TLN.
Strada 1: Centro Park Daytime. 8K BJ
This info is from 2007.
Can someone please tell me what the 2013 prices are?
Member #4244
12-09-13, 18:15
Strada 5: Mansion Paisas. 80K-100K ST & 150K TLN.
More like 150K ST. 300K TLN. Of course YMMV.
Strada 4: Casa Paisas. 30K. 150K ST and 100K. 150K TLN.
Not sure what is meant by "casa" here but if he means like San Diego, F2 and other higher end places then you're looking 100K-200K ST. 300K-500K TLN.
Strada 3. 1: Stripclub chicas. 50K ST.
40K-80K ST. 100K-300K TLN.
Strada 3: Mayorista Paisas. 25K ST & 80K-150K TLN.
Probably still about right.
Strada 2: San Diego street Paisas. 50K ST & 100K TLN.
About right, maybe a little more TLN but also maybe a little less ST. I've seen ST as low as 20K, TLN as high as 150K.
Strada 1: Centro Park Daytime. 8K BJ
I have no idea, probably closer to 20K but most of the girls have dicks or are otherwise kind of bummy.
Can someone please tell me what the 2013 prices are?[/QUOTE]
Member #4287
12-09-13, 19:49
I see quite a bit of discussion about safety on the street, and in clubs. What is reported by innuendo is a real potential reality. I'm often concerned about the first-time visitors to Medellin that knows nothing about the city, the conditions in Colombia, and often times little or no Spanish. They want to start this virgin adventure in an apartment by themselves? That's why I strongly advocate that the first-time visitor consider staying at the mansion where there is almost always seasoned veterans, and substantial vetting of the girls that come there.
Medellin is filled with very desperate people, and some of them are beautiful young women. Life is not risk-free. But you've got to realize that every gringo is a potential target, whether from a novio that's in on a robbery, a crooked cop, or the fake cop.
SavePros Report is from a guy that knows his way around the city, and I'm sure it is intended to be food for thought for all of us. The newbie and the guys that have been around a while, a like.If you aren't staying in a hotel, you really need to be staying in a building that has armed security that only lets in people after they call you and get your permission.
The story could have been a lot worst. What if the chick just opened up the front door and let two or three guys in that where prepared to give you a life changing experience. Jajaja.
When I had my apartment in Cali I lived in a building with armed guards 24/7 that wouldn't let anyone in unless they checked with me first and I still put a dead bolt on my door that locked with a key from the inside so nobody could ever open the door except for me.
I'm travelling to Medellin next week and everything so far has been planned. I have read a few things, some negatives / positives about the girls from Facebook. Has anyone been with either Valerie or Stefania. These girls seemed to be reliable but a negative experience might change my plans.
Thanks!
If you aren't staying in a hotel, you really need to be staying in a building that has armed security that only lets in people after they call you and get your permission.
The story could have been a lot worst. What if the chick just opened up the front door and let two or three guys in that where prepared to give you a life changing experience. Jajaja.
When I had my apartment in Cali I lived in a building with armed guards 24/7 that wouldn't let anyone in unless they checked with me first and I still put a dead bolt on my door that locked with a key from the inside so nobody could ever open the door except for me.I prefer a nice hotel when I'm in Colombia. It's just nice to kick back and relax in a nice king bed and have some quietness when I'm ready to sleep. My preferred hotel in Medellin is Hotel Estelar Blue. It's clean, quiet, offers free breakfast and dinner, and comfortable. It's walking distance to several malls and casinos. It's just my preference. But I did check out the link for pobladorentals and saw a nice studio for a great price. The price was actually the same as the hotel I use. Sad that it's booked for all of January. BUT HEY. This thread is for meeting women and their locations and reviews. Let's get back on subject.
Vegas Jeff
12-10-13, 00:22
Spoke to friend today who gave me a strong recommendation of new Centro MP girl. When I got there I was sad to find out that she had already quit. She did not last a week. Damn it.
With changed plans and feeling a little anxious I stopped at Afrodita. Saw a girl with a cute smile and overall looked pretty good.
Luciana. 35k half hour. 20k BBBJ. Luciana started of by giving me a great BBBJ. Unfortunately only for 2 minutes and then had to stop and spit. She continued this routine for a total of less than 10 minutes. Impossible to relax. I started in Mish, then she was on top, and finished in doggie. Had to concentrate to get off. Overall an underaverage session but not terrible.
Sorry guys. No photos.
VJ
Because of the hills, ravines, twisty roads, and one way streets it can be very confusing to navigate in Poblado. We are in an apartment about 5 blocks up from El Poblado and more than half the taxi drivers have gotten lost going to our place by just its address. I would recommend staying down near El Poblado (the main road) to avoid that problem and also being within walking distance of Parque Lleras where there are lots of restaurants, shops, etc.
It is our first time here so I can't compare against other regions but we have been happy in Poblado.5 blocks up Parque Ileras is almost perfect. The place I rent is 5 blocks as well. My first trip, I stayed on Parque Ileras and it was too noisy. I write down the exact Address of the edificio (building) and I memorize the closet landmark such a hotel or the street intersection. Makes it easy for Taxi drivers. In some cities, I even take a picture of the front of the building from my phone but I never had to do that in MDE.
Thank you. I'm leaning toward Poblado as advise by you and a couple other members as a first time. Once I get more confident with my spanish and area maybe on my return trip I will stay in other areas. I'd rather play the safety card first until then. So far I've been on the AIRbnb and looking at some places and I have a couple in mind. Appreciate all the help from you and others. Those who have stayed in the Poblado area, any issues bring home any guests? I'm renting a whole apt by myself so I don't think its an issue but what about the ladies? Do they outcall to this area? How are the neighbors if they see you have a guest? Are the neighbors frowning upon us?Excellent practical questions:
Most building porterias (door men) do not care. Some renters and buildings have a rule that they check I.D but that is rare. If they do, it is not a big deal. Protects you actually. They can tell a fake I.D. better than someone new to CO.
I always insist that the girl dress elegantly when I do TLNs and TLNs is pretty much all I do. The way the girl is dressed when I m doing a TLN can be a deal breaker for me. If they dress like an obvious hooker, I sometimes move on and tell her that I will take her the next day if she dresses "properly" to go out.
I do my best not to linger too long in the lobby and I certainly do not make a show of it. Everyone knows what is going on but keeping it as low key as possible is always in the best interest. Most importantly, I tip the porteria at least 10K pesos the first night I check in and every night I bring a girl. They are very appreciative of it and it goes a long way.
Vegas Jeff
12-10-13, 01:55
I'm leaning toward Poblado as advise by you and a couple other members as a first time. Once I get more confident with my spanish and area maybe on my return trip I will stay in other areas. I'd rather play the safety card first until then. So far I've been on the AIRbnb and looking at some places and I have a couple in mind. Appreciate all the help from you and others. Those who have stayed in the Poblado area, any issues bring home any guests? I'm renting a whole apt by myself so I don't think its an issue but what about the ladies? Do they outcall to this area? How are the neighbors if they see you have a guest? Are the neighbors frowning upon us?
Excellent practical questions:
Most building porterias (door men) do not care. Some renters and buildings have a rule that they check I. D but that is rare. If they do, it is not a big deal. Protects you actually. They can tell a fake I. D. Better than someone new to CO.
I always insist that the girl dress elegantly when I do TLNs and TLNs is pretty much all I do. The way the girl is dressed when I m doing a TLN can be a deal breaker for me. If they dress like an obvious hooker, I sometimes move on and tell her that I will take her the next day if she dresses "properly" to go out.
I do my best not to linger too long in the lobby and I certainly do not make a show of it. Everyone knows what is going on but keeping it as low key as possible is always in the best interest. Most importantly, I tip the porteria at least 10K pesos the first night I check in and every night I bring a girl. They are very appreciative of it and it goes a long way.I have stayed in more than 10 buildings in El Poblado.
Vitrea has got it all right. This is a model of how to do things. Tipping is not necessary but appreciated.
Upper class women hate working girls. If they dress more conservatively and as Vitrea says,"not to linger too long and make a show of it", you will blend in better.
Most importantly be a gentleman and act decent when you leave and arrive into and out of your apartment.
It is not a good idea to be giggling and pinching your guest when you are in the elevator with a 50 year old couple.
Excellent practical questions:
Most building porterias (door men) do not care. Some renters and buildings have a rule that they check I. D but that is rare. If they do, it is not a big deal. Protects you actually. They can tell a fake I. D. Better than someone new to CO.
I always insist that the girl dress elegantly when I do TLNs and TLNs is pretty much all I do. The way the girl is dressed when I m doing a TLN can be a deal breaker for me. If they dress like an obvious hooker, I sometimes move on and tell her that I will take her the next day if she dresses "properly" to go out.
I do my best not to linger too long in the lobby and I certainly do not make a show of it. Everyone knows what is going on but keeping it as low key as possible is always in the best interest. Most importantly, I tip the porteria at least 10K pesos the first night I check in and every night I bring a girl. They are very appreciative of it and it goes a long way.Good advice on the tips. I'll make note of that. I agree on how the girl is dressed. I will not take them back to my place for TLN unless they look like the normal girl next door. Since my plan is to stay there in Columbia for about 3 months I will check out another location my last month there.
EagleEye70
12-10-13, 03:38
Finally getting excited for my Medellin visita in a few days. I've spent a few nights with bedtime ISG stories of how to proceed in the beautiful city of Medellin. Took a while to realize that my signup emails were going straight to the junk email before I could comment, but whatever.
I will follow the 1st timer advice and will be staying at "the place to be", but I would like to stake out the territory and would be happy to accompany on any hunts taking place in a few days. I'm down to check out LL, Mayo, F2, SD, and secondary want the most bang for the buck, but primarily want the most top tier service quality service provided. I could use some help, although I can speak conversational Spanish.
SlamCity7777
12-10-13, 03:49
Excellent practical questions:
Most building porterias (door men) do not care. Some renters and buildings have a rule that they check I. D but that is rare. If they do, it is not a big deal. Protects you actually. They can tell a fake I. D. Better than someone new to CO.
I always insist that the girl dress elegantly when I do TLNs and TLNs is pretty much all I do. The way the girl is dressed when I m doing a TLN can be a deal breaker for me. If they dress like an obvious hooker, I sometimes move on and tell her that I will take her the next day if she dresses "properly" to go out.
I do my best not to linger too long in the lobby and I certainly do not make a show of it. Everyone knows what is going on but keeping it as low key as possible is always in the best interest. Most importantly, I tip the porteria at least 10K pesos the first night I check in and every night I bring a girl. They are very appreciative of it and it goes a long way.Nice one V. I hate the "Mira Mira Hooker" look that some girls think is ok. IMO it's sort of a turn off. I like a cute outfit or classy is nice too. Always nice to 1) not upset your neighbors* 2) have the door guys on your side*
*I was staying at a place and there was this girl I kept bumping into on the elevator, super market, ect. Chatty flirty fun and I had it in my mind to make a move the next time I ran into her. Well the next time was in the lobby with a girl who had "Hooker" printed on her fore head. So that was that.
* I've been snitched out by door guys for "too many people" staying in the apartment, loud parties, and pot smoke.
One more tip that some guys might like to use. I learned form a buddy in Bogota. This dude a great guy, fun, and cool. Party animal! That's the problem, he gets wasted and maker bad decisions. He's been robbed or ripped off so many times and been drugged so many times by girls it's almost funny!
It's like Bro how you fall of this again?
Me: Hey can I use your ipad so look up.
Dude: Sorry you can't. I lost it.
Me: You lost it? Like on the bus. Dude again? Was it at least 2 girls and you got to plug both of them right?
Hahahah. Anyway.
His tip is that he has a deal with the door guy, either he calls down or escorts them to the door. If not the door guy knows something is up. It's just a tip, better safe then sorry.
FoxesHunter
12-10-13, 12:19
When you tell about center of Medellin, do you mean Plaza Bolivar or what?
Vitrea has got it all right. Tipping is not necessary but appreciated."Not necessary but appreciated", is an understatement.
If you tip and treat these doormen, vigilantes (security guards) , maids, etc nicely, you will be APPRECIATED with a capital 'A'.
Highly recommended not to be a cheap Charlie or arrogant.
Upper class women hate working girls .Boy oh boy is that the truth!
If you've ever gotten the stink eye from one of these ladies when you're with an obvious working girl, you'll know it, LOL
Tipping is not necessaryI always try to do what the locals do and is customary in whatever country I am in.
I always try to do what the locals do and is customary in whatever country I am in.That generally means not tipping at all, LOL.
IMO, the game is a bit different when you're a foreigner / stranger in town and hoping for little extra 'protection' or 'help'.
To each their own of course, I've always had great luck because I've most always taken care of the people who can take care of me too, especially because I'm not a local.
Vegas Jeff
12-10-13, 17:51
I always try to do what the locals do and is customary in whatever country I am in.Locals do not tip in Medellin. Service and tipping is a new concept in Medellin and in the El Poblado area they are slowly making this transition. Most upper class locals tip 0-1k for deliveries. 5-10% at restaurants, and pay exact amounts to cab drivers.
I tip 2k-5k to porterias for basic things or for deliveries. 15% in restaurants, and cabs 500 pesos to 1k. I receive extremely warm, genuine responses from tipping in Medellin and it gives me the reinforcement to continue doing so.
Member #4287
12-10-13, 18:07
Most building porterias (door men) do not care. Some renters and buildings have a rule that they check I.D but that is rare. If they do, it is not a big deal. Protects you actually. They can tell a fake I.D. better than someone new to CO.By definition buildings that let people rent their apartments for less than a month at a time are not all that security conscious.
But the idea is that the armed guards only let people into the building after the non resident guest tells him whom they are going to visit and what apartment they intend to go to. Then the guard calls the particular apartment and if the person is home and says it is OK to let them up. Then and only then is the person is allowed into the building and asked to show I'd.
You can also set it up so the guard calls you up and asks if it is OK to let the person leave the building as well.
FoxesHunter
12-10-13, 23:20
Can someone tell me in which streets of the center there are girls at night?
Colombia Jake
12-10-13, 23:56
I am here to report on the guys having fun in Medellin with Colombia Jake, not give away information. There are plenty of guys to do that, so Eric after being stationed in Iraq for almost 2 years needed an emergency $2,000 visa just to get out of there for weird reasons nobody knows, arrived with a lot of pent up demand so we set out to quench that fire, so the first day or two we hit the centro casas. He had been working several chica websites as well so he had options. His days have been full of action and fun just the way you hope it will!
Roy arrived and wanted to experience all the centro casas and this time of year its by far the best, for being able to have an experience in each and just about every one. Invited over a cute chica today for him they hit it off and tomorrow their going out for a night on the town. This is the part that makes a stay here so much fun and adds the girlfriend type date experience which so many of you guys are so in need of and thankful for. Happy to help!
Colombia Jake
Can someone tell me in which streets of the center there are girls at night?From Hotel Nutibara, walk 3-4 blocks West on DeGrieff (Calle 53). After you pass the strip bars (first you'll pass Ejecutivo, then Hilton Bar) , you will see some street girls. Even more so on some of the side streets off of DeGrieff. I've seen some quite attractive ones. Please note, this is not for the easily scared. After dark, this area can be pretty dicey.
I'm sure there are other areas also.
Member #4244
12-11-13, 07:17
From Hotel Nutibara, walk 3-4 blocks West on DeGrieff (Calle 53). After you pass the strip bars (first you'll pass Ejecutivo, then Hilton Bar) , you will see some street girls. Even more so on some of the side streets off of DeGrieff. I've seen some quite attractive ones. Please note, this is not for the easily scared. After dark, this area can be pretty dicey.
I'm sure there are other areas also.Calle 53 is Maracaibo. It's the area near the museum (Museo de Antioquia) and there are a number of other strip clubs where the girls are around $20 USD as well. I have seen just OK talent there and yes it is lacking in ambiance hahaha.
Hey I'm going to medllin for work for a few days starting the 16th and then am there till the 2nd of jan. Looking for some help, where would be some good places to go? Are girls easy there? Is not speaking Spanish going to be a problem.
Never been to this area of the world, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Derek
SavePros321
12-11-13, 11:58
I am here to report on the guys having fun in Medellin with Colombia Jake, not give away information.
Colombia JakeIn other words: "If you are not lining my pockets with cash then go an fuck yourselves. While you're at it, check out my new user thread!"
Noted
FoxesHunter
12-11-13, 16:16
From Hotel Nutibara, walk 3-4 blocks West on DeGrieff (Calle 53). After you pass the strip bars (first you'll pass Ejecutivo, then Hilton Bar) , you will see some street girls. Even more so on some of the side streets off of DeGrieff. I've seen some quite attractive ones. Please note, this is not for the easily scared. After dark, this area can be pretty dicey.
I'm sure there are other areas also.People tell that centro of Medellin is a good area to pick up girls but if streets pretty dicey at night. Even if you're a daredevil it is hard to get a good stay.
Member #4244
12-11-13, 17:11
Hey I'm going to medllin for work for a few days starting the 16th and then am there till the 2nd of jan. Looking for some help, where would be some good places to go? Are girls easy there? Is not speaking Spanish going to be a problem.
Never been to this area of the world, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
DerekDo you also not speak English?
Hey I'm going to medllin for work for a few days starting the 16th and then am there till the 2nd of jan. Looking for some help, where would be some good places to go? Are girls easy there? Is not speaking Spanish going to be a problem.
Never been to this area of the world, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
DerekI'm going to help you out a bit. First, you really should read the forum. Scroll back about two months worth for the up to date info. Then visit the sister thread on the Medellin List to see the locations and prices. That is the BEST ADVICE any of us can offer you. There are massage parlors, strip clubs, disco's, etc. For you to visit. You can even walk around the centro or one of the major malls and practically trip over a girl that would be interested in a night out for dinner and then some quality time. Don't be obnoxious or arrogant. Be friendly, polite, and act like you have some sense about yourself. Girls don't pay for their dinner or drinks so expect to pay. They may even ask for taxi money and it's ok to give her 20k pesos to be nice. Check out Energy, New Life, Face Dos, Liquid Lounge, and a number of other places. Spend some time reading. It will answer all of your questions. Have fun and be safe
Spotlight on butt injecting CubaDave spills over to discussion of mongering in Medellin. http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-12.e-sex-tourism/
SavePros321
12-12-13, 02:32
Spotlight on butt injecting CubaDave spills over to discussion of mongering in Medellin.
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-12.e-sex-tourism/Your link seems to be broken. This is the one you posted in the Sosua forum:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-12-12/news/cuba-dave-sex-tourism/
"Another gent who's easy to find is Jonesie, who has been the administrator of a message board called Monger Network since 2010. He doesn't have a problem with being called a "monger," because all of the women he does business with are older than 18 and are not being exploited, he says. He then adds that he sleeps with prostitutes as an alternative to North American relationships."
"It's a lifestyle choice," he says. "I respect those who choose other philosophies as long as they respect mine." Though he is the most active member of the 7,000 people who are part of his community, he always publishes under an alias and no photos exist of him online. He asked that his real name not be used in this article.
Is this our Jonesie, lol? How does it feel to be infamous?
Why are you guys talking to journalist about "this thing of ours"? It's almost akin to a snitch talking to the cops!
We had the exact address of the apartment written down for taxi drivers. The address includes the cross street. There was also a landmark written down but it is something that doesn't currently exist (a tomato field) because at the moment there is no good landmark nearby so only older drivers familiar with the area would recognize it.
My advice stands. It was not to be in Parque Lleras but within easy walking distance of it (5 blocks would be fine). The advice is to be near El Poblado, the street, because it has lots of landmarks and at worse you won't have to walk too far up the hill from it.
5 blocks up Parque Ileras is almost perfect. The place I rent is 5 blocks as well. My first trip, I stayed on Parque Ileras and it was too noisy. I write down the exact Address of the edificio (building) and I memorize the closet landmark such a hotel or the street intersection. Makes it easy for Taxi drivers. In some cities, I even take a picture of the front of the building from my phone but I never had to do that in MDE.
Your link seems to be broken. This is the one you posted in the Sosua forum:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-12-12/news/cuba-dave-sex-tourism/
"Another gent who's easy to find is Jonesie, who has been the administrator of a message board called Monger Network since 2010. He doesn't have a problem with being called a "monger," because all of the women he does business with are older than 18 and are not being exploited, he says. He then adds that he sleeps with prostitutes as an alternative to North American relationships."
"It's a lifestyle choice," he says."I respect those who choose other philosophies as long as they respect mine." Though he is the most active member of the 7, 000 people who are part of his community, he always publishes under an alias and no photos exist of him online. He asked that his real name not be used in this article.
Is this our Jonesie, LOL? How does it feel to be infamous?
Why are you guys talking to journalist about "this thing of ours"? It's almost akin to a snitch talking to the cops!He is quite an interesting guy to give away so much info. Pretty cool that he's in his 60's and living a healthy lifestyle. Especially the constant sex. I dread the day I turn 40 but I have another few years. I'm not at the point to have the need to pop any pills to keep it going. But I know eventually it might happen. Sounds like his place in Key West is quite the bachelor pad. Trek on Cubadave.
Your link seems to be broken. This is the one you posted in the Sosua forum:
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-12-12/news/cuba-dave-sex-tourism/
"Another gent who's easy to find is Jonesie, who has been the administrator of a message board called Monger Network since 2010. He doesn't have a problem with being called a "monger," because all of the women he does business with are older than 18 and are not being exploited, he says. He then adds that he sleeps with prostitutes as an alternative to North American relationships."
"It's a lifestyle choice," he says."I respect those who choose other philosophies as long as they respect mine." Though he is the most active member of the 7, 000 people who are part of his community, he always publishes under an alias and no photos exist of him online. He asked that his real name not be used in this article.
Is this our Jonesie, LOL? How does it feel to be infamous?
Why are you guys talking to journalist about "this thing of ours"? It's almost akin to a snitch talking to the cops!No one was talking to anyone. This is not journalism but cheap trolling. Just another **** sucking envious hating ***** that has never set foot anywhere.
In other words: "If you are not lining my pockets with cash then go an fuck yourselves. While you're at it, check out my new user thread!"
NotedLMAO, I didn't read into that at all, I went to his website. And it said he can help you have a vacation of a life time! If that be the case, then I'm sure a number of guys would and do love his service. Besides he doesn't have a tax on liquor consumed outside of your room LOL http://www.colombiajake.com/
What is a "BM"?Bowel movement, can happen frequently and unexpectedly after consumption of street food, or too much alcohol consumption
I dread the day I turn 40 but I have another few years. I'm not at the point to have the need to pop any pills to keep it going. But I know eventually it might happen.Would you go with the butt injections and estrogen blockers as well?
Would you go with the butt injections and estrogen blockers as well?I don't think I would get to that level to keep up. At some point you just have to relax and enjoy life without forcing yourself to stay above average.
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