Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

It's true that the Oviedo Mall has lots of security. It's also a major target of ne'er do wells. My guess is the victim was targeted by somebody scoping out the store, or someone to whom he might have mentioned why he was going to Oviedo, or an inside job involving the store and / or mall security. Stay alert and travel safely.


Smart robbers go where the money is, it's not in el centro. All the reports in past 6 years I have been here involving shots fired in gringo robberies, I recall none in el centro, el centro is snatch and grab, then run, and hope the locals don't chase after you and catch and kick the shit out you, which I saw happen last night on Bolivar avenida across from the Nutibara Hotel about 10 pm.

[TrueScotsMan]

Hi folks,

I have contacted the above and he sent me price and dates for M2. I RTFF and it seems it's not as good as M1?

I was sent 15 photos of the bed don't no if it has a bath or shower. Basically I booked the Charlee but I'm on my first trip to Colombia and the Mansion has featured a lot on this forum. Is there any other hotel I should be looking at?

Thanks

[Husker Dude]

Yesterday I pulled 600,000 Pesos out of a Banco Colombia ATM machine and when I checked my online statement the math came to 3,091 pesos to the US dollar including what Banco-Colombia charged me to use their machine. Are the rates headed back up again?Rates may be going up cause I used bancolombia 2 weeks ago and when I got home I figured I got 2950.

[El Mechanico]

Hi folks,

I have contacted the above and he sent me price and dates for M2. I RTFF and it seems it's not as good as M1?

I was sent 15 photos of the bed don't no if it has a bath or shower. Basically I booked the Charlee but I'm on my first trip to Colombia and the Mansion has featured a lot on this forum. Is there any other hotel I should be looking at?

ThanksM2 is much quieter, the rooms all have showers w / hot water and cold A / C. The daily breakfast was fantastic! The walk down the hill was no big deal. The walk back up the hill was a killer. Both have pools however all the girls hang out at the M1 pool area.

El Mechanico

[SavePros321]

Hi folks,

I have contacted the above and he sent me price and dates for M2. I RTFF and it seems it's not as good as M1?

I was sent 15 photos of the bed don't no if it has a bath or shower. Basically I booked the Charlee but I'm on my first trip to Colombia and the Mansion has featured a lot on this forum. Is there any other hotel I should be looking at?

ThanksYou can always just go to the website and see what all of their rooms look like:

Hotel M1 Rooms

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/rooms.html

Hotel M2 Rooms

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/rooms2.html

Personally, I would avoid any rooms that have shared bathrooms.

I've always stayed at M2. It's a lot more quieter, which is what I like. M1 has that frat-boy atmosphere to it. It is also where La Cuerva (The Cave) and the pool that everyone hangs at are, but you can always walk down the hill from M1 to visit it.

[El Mechanico]

......you can always walk down the hill from M1 to visit it.M1 is downhill. I think you meant walk down from the M2 which is up the hill from the M1!

El Mechanico

[TrueScotsMan]

You can always just go to the website and see what all of their rooms look like:

Hotel M1 Rooms

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/rooms.html

Hotel M2 Rooms

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/rooms2.html

Personally, I would avoid any rooms that have shared bathrooms.

I've always stayed at M2. It's a lot more quieter, which is what I like. M1 has that frat-boy atmosphere to it. It is also where La Cuerva (The Cave) and the pool that everyone hangs at are, but you can always walk down the hill from M1 to visit it.Yes, I looked at site but room 207 is photos of just bed! LOL OK so now I realize it's close to M1. I booked 5 nights in Barranquilla before I come to med. Any ideas of good hotels? Thinking I should just come strait to Med.

[SavePros321]

M1 is downhill. I think you meant walk down from the M2 which is up the hill from the M1!

El MechanicoYeah, it was a typo.

[SavePros321]

Any ideas of good hotels? Thinking I should just come strait to Med.Don't know anything about hotels. Apartments are the way to go in Medellin.

[Quagmire1974]

Yes, I looked at site but room 207 is photos of just bed! LOL OK so now I realize it's close to M1. I booked 5 nights in Barranquilla before I come to med. Any ideas of good hotels? Thinking I should just come strait to Med.I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Barranquilla is an industrial city that's crappy 51 weeks out of the year. The only week that Barranquilla is any good is when Carnival is being celebrated.

Instead of Barranquilla, consider Cartagena, just down the coast from Barranquilla. The action in Cartagena tends to center in Bocagrande. Myself, I preferred the Ciudad Vieja, the old section of Cartagena with old churches and museums surrounded by most of the old wall. If you stay in this area, consider Casa La Fe a Kali Hotel for your stay.

You'll find working girls in both Bocagrande and Ciudad Vieja, but your best bet will be Bocagrande.

[Combo]

Hi folks,

I have contacted the above and he sent me price and dates for M2. I RTFF and it seems it's not as good as M1?

I was sent 15 photos of the bed don't no if it has a bath or shower. Basically I booked the Charlee but I'm on my first trip to Colombia and the Mansion has featured a lot on this forum. Is there any other hotel I should be looking at?

ThanksEach room is different, but on average the rooms in M2 are every bit as good as those in M1. Room 9 in M2 is the best (and most expensive) room in either house.

M2 is also quieter and has better breakfast than M1. And the views from the Veranda are great. What M1 has is ease of access to la Cueva.

[Husker Dude]

Each room is different, but on average the rooms in M2 are every bit as good as those in M1. Room 9 in M2 is the best (and most expensive) room in either house.

M2 is also quieter and has better breakfast than M1. And the views from the Veranda are great. What M1 has is ease of access to la Cueva.You're right about the rooms, but I was at M2 in March and M1 just a couple weeks ago and it was better this time. Had like 3 eggs scrambled with ham, onions, cheese, plus french toast with a thick bread at M1 this time along with the fresh fruit & oj each day. Also discovered M1 serves Sunday hotdogs at 3 PM.

[Socker]

Nobody is going to rent or buy a Ferrari if they know nobody is ever going to see them in it. A moped is fun and will get you from point A to point be. That is why you call chicks that are good for fucking, but you don't want anyone to know you were with, mopeds. So if nobody will ever know about it why spend tons of money on the Ferrari when a moped will get you where you need to go?Renting a Ferrari or a Shelby Cobra is about walking up to it, sitting in it, starting it up, getting the feel of a great machine and then finally driving it. That's what it's about for any dude w / integrity. It doesn't matter if anyone sees you in it. All that matters is you control it now.

So you stick w / your mopeds and stay in the shadows.

Your post above is unintentionally revealing.

Thanks.

[Mr Enternational]

I booked 5 nights in Barranquilla before I come to med. Any ideas of good hotels? Thinking I should just come strait to Med.You might want to unbook that. Even if you know people there, Barranquilla is boring. You could take a van or the bus to Santa Marta from there though. If not, then I hope you enjoy the mall.

[TrueScotsMan]

You might want to unbook that. Even if you know people there, Barranquilla is boring. You could take a van or the bus to Santa Marta from there though. If not, then I hope you enjoy the mall.Yes this is what I'm slowly realizing. My trip to Colombia was impulsive my concierge in breathless Punta Cana is from Barq. She said night life was great, But it's OK my flights are booked so I can always change the city. I do 3 days in Bogota just cause I arrive there and settle in then fly to Barq. 5 there and fly to med. I'm thinking now I should just go strait to Med!LOL.

[Black Page]

You might want to unbook that. Even if you know people there, Barranquilla is boring. You could take a van or the bus to Santa Marta from there though. If not, then I hope you enjoy the mall.I second that! I was in BAQ only once (business) and I could not wait to move to CTG.


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Barranquilla is an industrial city that's crappy 51 weeks out of the year.
Instead of Barranquilla, consider Cartagena, just down the coast from Barranquilla. The action in Cartagena tends to center in Bocagrande. Myself, I preferred the Ciudad Vieja, the old section of Cartagena with old churches and museums surrounded by most of the old wall.
You'll find working girls in both Bocagrande and Ciudad Vieja, but your best bet will be Bocagrande.Yes about BAQ.

Yes about going to CTG (or Santa Marta).

But for what to do in CTG, better have a look at the CTG thread and read back many pages. Lots of info even detailed.
By the way:
- Nobody calls Centro "Ciudad Vieja". It's "El Centro".
- No decent P4 P action in Bocagrande, except on one beach and in one club (see the CTG thread).
- The place to go at night is in the clubs of el centro and in the Plaza del Reloy. In short: take an apartment in Bocagrande, because they are better, modern and affordable, and move to Centro for the night.

[Quagmire1974]

Nobody calls Centro "Ciudad Vieja". It's "El Centro".Respectfully, yes and no. Mongers refer to it as "El Centro. " Regular tourists refer to it as "Ciudad Vieja" or, more commonly, "Ciudad Amurallada. " I know, I was there for 7 days.

[Otiers]

Respectfully, yes and no. Mongers refer to it as "El Centro. " Regular tourists refer to it as "Ciudad Vieja" or, more commonly, "Ciudad Amurallada. " I know, I was there for 7 days.My wife lives in Cartagena and she says El Centro.

[Chesscat]

Oil down, peso down. That is, the lower oil is, the more bang for your American dollar.


Yesterday I pulled 600,000 Pesos out of a Banco Colombia ATM machine and when I checked my online statement the math came to 3,091 pesos to the US dollar including what Banco-Colombia charged me to use their machine. Are the rates headed back up again?

[Black Page]

Respectfully, yes and no. Mongers refer to it as "El Centro. " Regular tourists refer to it as "Ciudad Vieja" or, more commonly, "Ciudad Amurallada. " I know, I was there for 7 days.Respectfully, I have been there 7 days X 20 times. LOL

However, the important point is where are the girls, not how we call the place. Best girls are in El Centro. Leave Bocagrande to those who spend all days in the same loop: apartment, Hollywood Beach, apartment, Riquisimo, apartment, LDV, apartment.

[LocoGringo]

Respectfully, I have been there 7 days X 20 times. LOL
kes some time to develop the connections
However, the important point is where are the girls, not how we call the place. Best girls are in El Centro. Leave Bocagrande to those who spend all days in the same loop: apartment, Hollywood Beach, apartment, Riquisimo, apartment, LDV, apartment.It is up to who rings your doorbell. Personally, I like the University girls, often young and want to experience new things. The other places are pro and ptpro, even the casas have some jewels. If you are into the dance / romance thing then even the putas enjoy your company, errr, especially if you are loose with cash and gifts. It takes some time to develop but most of the time it is good to great. Also noticing a lot of very young, 18-22, wanting to experience lesbian, real thing.

[GirlsLuvMe]

My wife lives in Cartagena and she says El Centro.All my drivers call it "Centro" also.

[Black Page]

It is up to who rings your doorbell. Personally, I like the University girls, often young and want to experience new things. The other places are pro and ptpro, even the casas have some jewels. If you are into the dance / romance thing then even the putas enjoy your company, errr, especially if you are loose with cash and gifts. It takes some time to develop but most of the time it is good to great. Also noticing a lot of very young, 18-22, wanting to experience lesbian, real thing.Ehmmm let me point out again that I wrote: "take an apartment in Bocagrande, because they are better, modern and affordable, and move to Centro for the night. " <grin>

PS: I admit I am guilty as others, and I take my responsibility, but we are OOT because this is the MDE thread not the CTG thread... Can we move there, if we want to elaborate further? ;-)

[El Mechanico]

Did my 12 month membership expire after 4 months? Is this thread still active? No posts for almost 48 hours? Is there a strike in the MDE and everyone has to stay in their apt / hotel?

You know I'm just joking, maybe it's just a mid week slowdown!

Stay safe bros!

El Mechanico

[TrueScotsMan]

Did my 12 month membership expire after 4 months? Is this thread still active? No posts for almost 48 hours? Is there a strike in the MDE and everyone has to stay in their apt / hotel?

You know I'm just joking, maybe it's just a mid week slowdown!

Stay safe bros!

El MechanicoYes I thought the same. I can't wait to go. Love reading the reports. Photos are a bonus.

Anyone got a few hook ups on FB they would like to share with the new guy? Every little helps.

[Duro123]

Hello fellas,

Two of my friends and I are going to Medellin next week. I was in Medellin back in 2009 with another group of friends and had a ridiculously amazing time. So anyways want my buds to see what they have been missing this whole time I've been suggesting we go. We get there at 11:30 pm figure by the time we get to the apartment in Parque Lleras it is about 1 am. Whats the best spot to hit up on a Tuesday night?

Thanks for the recommendation.

My friends and I speak Spanish if it makes any difference.

Thanks!

[Debonair00]

Given the current discussion on Medellin Maps, I thought I'd bump an old post of mine with some map info that may (or may not) be of use. At least it might give any newbies to the area an idea of types of maps they can create on their own. To be clear, once I got on the ground on MDE, these maps were spot on. My wingman and I literally planned our itinerary before we left and used the addresses, times and prices associated with the mapped locations and walked right up to the different places. Hope it helps!Gentlemen,

Can someone please upload the maps if possible. I contacted the original poster whom can't seem to find the full sized versions. Will be in town in 1 week and these will help big time.

Thanks in advance!

[SavePros321]

Anyone got a few hook ups on FB they would like to share with the new guy? Every little helps.If you will be staying at the Mansion, you won't need any FB Hookups. This place is actually where you seed and grown your FB network. Go there, meet the girls visiting the Mansion during the day and La Cuerva at night. Get their fb or whatsapp info.

[Mrdurden]

I reserved Casa La Fe and they sent their policies by email, one of which is this. Did you manage to bring any guests into your room?

"The hotel does not permit casual guests in hotel rooms at any time. ".


I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Barranquilla is an industrial city that's crappy 51 weeks out of the year. The only week that Barranquilla is any good is when Carnival is being celebrated.

Instead of Barranquilla, consider Cartagena, just down the coast from Barranquilla. The action in Cartagena tends to center in Bocagrande. Myself, I preferred the Ciudad Vieja, the old section of Cartagena with old churches and museums surrounded by most of the old wall. If you stay in this area, consider Casa La Fe a Kali Hotel for your stay.

You'll find working girls in both Bocagrande and Ciudad Vieja, but your best bet will be Bocagrande.

[Surfer500]

I reserved Casa La Fe and they sent their policies by email, one of which is this. Did you manage to bring any guests into your room?

"The hotel does not permit casual guests in hotel rooms at any time. ".Rent an apartment.

[World Travel 69]

Are Here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2787-Map-of-Casas-of-Centro-in-Medellin&p=755452#post755452
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=886701#post886701


Gentlemen,

Can someone please upload the maps if possible. I contacted the original poster whom can't seem to find the full sized versions. Will be in town in 1 week and these will help big time.

Thanks in advance!

[Black Page]

Rent an apartment.How many times shall we repeat the same thing
Before everyone will understand
Yes how many times it will be repeated
That no upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests"?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
To not see deluxe motels or apartment for rent?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

[Quagmire1974]

I reserved Casa La Fe and they sent their policies by email, one of which is this. Did you manage to bring any guests into your room?

"The hotel does not permit casual guests in hotel rooms at any time. ".That's a good hotel. It used to be known simply as Casa La Fe and was owned by an expat named Geoff and his Colombian wife. I think the name change to Casa La Fe a Kali Hotel was because Geoff and his wife sold the hotel to a larger conglomerate or have gone into partnership with them, I'm not sure either way.

Is the hotel chica friendly? Eh, yes and no. You received the verbiage of "The hotel does not permit casual guests in hotel rooms at any time" and that was also in effect when I was there a while back. Reception is located immediately inside the front door of the hotel but is only staffed until 5 pm in the evenings, more or less. Afterwards, a doorman keeps a loose eye on who comes and goes. I had no problem bringing a chica back to my room on three consecutive nights after reception was closed because I was friendly and chatty with the doorman and acted like I owned the place. If he had resisted, I was prepared to grease the guy's palm with a few thousand pesos. It probably also helped that my chica was a secretary who I met at a local ice cream shop and looked like a simple resident of Cartagena, as opposed to a glammed-up working girl in a tight dress with 6 inch stiletto heels.

[Lou32]

Some guys here need to be the authority and you are dealing w / the president of that club. Now that I think about it, it's a one man club.

You cannot win or convince someone like this to be reasonable. Mr E has his game and if you play different you are inferior.

I tend to keep him on the ignore but I know he is a smart guy too so I give it another try.

Then he does the same thing all over again so it's back to ignore for him. You, I and most others here.

Know we are not dealing w / things. It's too bad some here are so cold. It is what it is."I tend to keep him on the ignore." I hear you there, buddy.

[PirateMorgan]

http://colombiareports.com/medellin-begins-cracking-sex-tourism/

In the end the Internet will be the death of the hobby. Local governments won't tolerate the publicity. Jaco will be next and that is for sure. The military government of Thailand is pissed. The world's 'Zona Tolerance' is getting smaller and smaller.

(actually the things Cuba Dave talked about were really not toxic but that is not helping him (make a donation).

[SavePros321]

http://colombiareports.com/medellin-begins-cracking-sex-tourism/

In the end the Internet will be the death of the hobby. Local governments won't tolerate the publicity. Jaco will be next and that is for sure. The military government of Thailand is pissed. The world's 'Zona Tolerance' is getting smaller and smaller.

(actually the things Cuba Dave talked about were really not toxic but that is not helping him (make a donation).We've already discussed this at length. Damn near 15 pages of just that alone. Post number #20176 on page 25 in this forum kicked things off (hat tip to Manizales for breaking the news here). Start there and work your way back.

[Quagmire1974]

(actually the things Cuba Dave talked about were really not toxic but that is not helping him (make a donation).Making a monetary donation to Cuba Dave may very well be pointless. I found a post from this past March on another internet message board claiming that the guy who sold Cuba Dave out to Costa Rican authorities is the same one running the Cuba Dave legal support fund on Facebook and is simply pocketing the cash. September 4 will be the crucial date. Unless Costa Rican authorities can prove Cuba Dave was part of organized crime, they legally won't be able to hold him in preventive custody after that date.

[Knowledge]

In the 70's the idea was alternative weekly newspapers with their liberal advertising policies would be the death of the hobby.


http://colombiareports.com/medellin-begins-cracking-sex-tourism/

In the end the Internet will be the death of the hobby. Local governments won't tolerate the publicity. Jaco will be next and that is for sure. The military government of Thailand is pissed. The world's 'Zona Tolerance' is getting smaller and smaller.

(actually the things Cuba Dave talked about were really not toxic but that is not helping him (make a donation).

[Chesscat]

What are you sayin?


How many times shall we repeat the same thing
Before everyone will understand
Yes how many times it will be repeated
That no upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests"?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
To not see deluxe motels or apartment for rent?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

[El Mechanico]

What are you sayin?I think he starts out saying RTFF & you'll get the answers to your questions and then changes the theme to rent apartments & you won't have to worry about chica friendly or not!

El Mechanico

[Black Page]

What are you sayin?


I think he starts out saying RTFF & you'll get the answers to your questions and then changes the theme to rent apartments & you won't have to worry about chica friendly or not!
El Mechanico


How many times shall we repeat the same thing
Before everyone will understand
Yes how many times it will be repeated
That no upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests"?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
To not see deluxe motels or apartment for rent?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
:-/
I guess there are not many who never heard Bob Dylan. Sometimes they say "If you need it explained, then it's useless to explain it anyway". However, this is the translation in simple terms of "my" song:

1) No upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests".
2) Go to a deluxe love motel or rent an apartment.
3) It was said so many times, so many times already...! Never read that before? RTFF.

[Surfer500]

I guess there are not many who never heard Bob Dylan. Sometimes they say "If you need it explained, then it's useless to explain it anyway". However, this is the translation in simple terms of "my" song:

1) No upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests".
2) Go to a deluxe love motel or rent an apartment.
3) It was said so many times, so many times already...! Never read that before? RTFF.Probably never heard of Peter, Paul, & Mary either.

[Black Page]

Probably never heard of Peter, Paul, & Mary either.LOL! :-D :-D

What is this? A competition of sarcasm?
(I had to Google "Peter, Paul, & Mary" to find out).

P.S.: I don't like Bob Dylan.

[El Mechanico]

I guess there are not many who never heard Bob Dylan. Sometimes they say "If you need it explained, then it's useless to explain it anyway". However, this is the translation in simple terms of "my" song:

1) No upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests".
2) Go to a deluxe love motel or rent an apartment.
3) It was said so many times, so many times already...! Never read that before? RTFF.I knew it, thank you!

El Mechanico.

[GringoLoco66]

Don't know anything about hotels. Apartments are the way to go in Medellin.I will second that. Apartments are the way to go. AirBnB has apartments for as little as 20 USD per night. And no one is going to hassle you. I usually stay a La Provincia in Poblado. They don't ask any questions and tolerated quite a bit of partying in my room. No one said a word to me. Cra 30 A #9-45. But that is just one of many places.

[BayBoy]

How many times shall we repeat the same thing
Before everyone will understand
Yes how many times it will be repeated
That no upper-class hotels do welcome "casual guests"?
Yes, how many times can a man turn his head
To not see deluxe motels or apartment for rent?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.For the record, the song 'Blowing in the Wind' was written by Bob Dylan (1962) and he sang the song. But Peter, Paul and Mary's version probably gained the most notoriety and fame. Yes I'm an old fart and remember when the song came out. But good analogy Black Page.

[Surfer500]

For the record, the song 'Blowing in the Wind' was written by Bob Dylan (1962) and he sang the song. But Peter, Paul and Mary's version probably gained the most notoriety and fame. Yes I'm an old fart and remember when the song came out. But good analogy Black Page.I assumed there were a lot of old farts like us on this board who would of known about these vintage 60's singers and songwriters. But hell I feel like I'm in my twenty's when I troll El Centro looking for a wife!

[Black Page]

when I troll El Centro looking for a wife!That's the place to go if you look for a wife!

[Black Page]

But Peter, Paul and Mary's version probably gained the most notoriety and fame.Believe it or not, I never heard them before reading this in this thread. I had to Google their names to learn who are they.

[Napalm]

Respectfully, yes and no. Mongers refer to it as "El Centro. " Regular tourists refer to it as "Ciudad Vieja" or, more commonly, "Ciudad Amurallada. " I know, I was there for 7 days.7 days wow! Maybe you can give me some pointers? Only been living in Medellin for the last 5 years and El Centro for the last 4. Even real estate agencies call it El Centro. Somebody been blowing smoke up your ass. Or something else maybe?

[SavePros321]

7 days wow! Maybe you can give me some pointers? Only been living in Medellin for the last 5 years and El Centro for the last 4. Even real estate agencies call it El Centro. Somebody been blowing smoke up your ass. Or something else maybe?They were talking about Cartagena, not Medellin.

[Quagmire1974]

They were talking about Cartagena, not Medellin.I was indeed talking about Cartagena, not Medellin.

I'm monitoring multiple threads for upcoming trips in October, December, and early next year and I will say this: the level of hostility and arrogance shown on the Medellin thread is not seen on any other thread that I'm monitoring. When I post a comment, I'm genuinely trying to help someone. Unfortunately and sadly, some of you (like Napalm) enjoy being Keyboard Warriors / Trolls. That's fine, do what you do and say what you say. I'm not thin-skinned and easily butt hurt like a few people on this thread. Mongers planning trips to Medellin, Cali, Bogota, Cartagena, and San Andres Island are welcome to contact me via PM (and thanks to those who already have) if they'd like help planning their trips. And to you Keyboard Warriors / Trolls, stop clogging up this thread with negative commentary. Start posting Your trip reports and help people, which is what this thread is all about anyway.

[BlueChange]

Hey how is the Lineup at Energy recently? Heading there end of this month and that's always been my favorite. There was this super blanco red head with bolt ones and an angel face that I regret not seeing a year ago. Never again!! If I see her there I'm soo down!

[Kh123]

Hello,

I've been looking on this site for the last year and received some really good info for Nicaragua. I've been reading through the thread and have yet to find info on Brothels, working girl houses that do not charge tourist prices and have that sweet Colombian ass. I keep hearing el centro to pick up a wife but I want a working girl. Also been looking online and keep seeing that I want to be around the Poblado area is where the fun is. I'm going to Air BNB my own place so should be okay to bring a chic back too. Any info on where I should go and what I should pay would be awesome.

[El Mechanico]

Hello,

I've been looking on this site for the last year and received some reeeallllyyyy good info for Nicaragua. I've been reading through the thread and have yet to find info on Brothels, working girl houses that do not charge tourist prices and have that sweet Colombian ass. I keep hearing el centro to pick up a wife but I want a working girl. Also been looking online and keep seeing that I want to be around the Poblado area is where the fun is. I'm going to Air BNB my own place so should be okay to bring a chic back too. Any info on where I should go and what I should pay would be awesome.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?98-Nicaragua

Wrong thread pal! Try this one!

[Kh123]

I said I went to Nicaragua and learned from here. I wanted info on Medellin for I'll be there next month for my birthday.

[El Mechanico]

I said I went to Nicaragua and learned from here. I wanted info on Medellin for I'll be there next month for my birthday.That's not even close to what you said, you never said you 'went' to Nicaragua, but whatever. Your 2nd post was a little less ambiguous!

Do what I did, go back 2 years on this thread, to say, maybe Sept of 2014. Take 30 min / day & read 10-12 pages per day as well as the current days new posts (which have slowed down to almost nothing lately) and I can guarantee you 99% of your questions will be answered. You will find topics that interest you & some that don't. I did that for my July 4th trip & it was well worth the effort. I was impolitely told to RTFF after I asked a couple of newbie questions & was so glad I did. Some of the posts and tangents literally made me LOL, others were useless to my trip but most were quite informative! You get out of this forum what you put into it. The info is there & there are very few on here will spoon feed it to you! Good luck on your trip, be safe & Happy Birthday! What a great place to spend your BD. I actually left on my BD this past summer but not before 2 beautiful Paisas gave me a BD present to remember! Woo-hoo! Have fun man!

El Mechanico.

[SavePros321]

I said I went to Nicaragua and learned from here. I wanted info on Medellin for I'll be there next month for my birthday.Since you said you are going next month, we are all going to assume that you are smart enough to not have booked a trip to a place you know nothing about (I mean, who does that, right?) However, as assumptions go...

The best thing for you to do is this:

> Grab a beer, blunt, bong, cig, etc.

> Scroll down to the bottom of this page

> Next to the number "1", click "2"

> Read everything until you get to the bottom of that page. Then click the number "3"

> Repeat this process over the next few days until you get to page 30. You will then be all caught up with everything you need to know about anything Medallo, including how not to end up in a Colombian jail like Colombian Jake, or how to possibly avoid getting shot during a robbery attempt (in fact, in the event of a robbery, it is best that you understand the term "Ante Up". M.O.P. Does a great job of explaining just exactly what it means, lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUnfFC7wUrs).

If you want to become a Medellin Ninja, start at the first post from 2016 and work your way back to this page (which will probably be either page 2 or 10 by then, depending on how fast you read).

[Black Page]

If you want to become a Medellin Ninja, start at the first post from 2016 and work your way back to this page (which will probably be either page 2 or 10 by then, depending on how fast you read).Not to mention the fabulous RoD, which can be scrolled back even a few years without spending days, and, once one knows how to move around, the Medellin List. Easy and straightforward.

Next step is pay a membership in change of all that, and get the power to PM senior members (those who spent a significant amount of time in Medellin, say more than 7 days) for specific questions. Enjoy ISG.

[Shanamat]

If anyone is looking for a hotel. I stayed at the Hotel BH EL Poblado for a few nights and it was fairly nice. New modern hotel with a comfy room, good price and convenient location, right next to the Santa Fe mall. Best part, its chica friendly. I kind of like when they at least check their ID, but this place didn't even do that.

[EllissDee]

If anyone is looking for a hotel. I stayed at the Hotel BH EL Poblado for a few nights and it was fairly nice. New modern hotel with a comfy room, good price and convenient location, right next to the Santa Fe mall. Best part, its chica friendly. I kind of like when they at least check their ID, but this place didn't even do that.What was the daily rate? I'm currently renting and apartment up in Loma el Indio, but looking to move down closer to town tomorrow. Was considering another AirBnB, since these days many can go for $250-$300 per week, but that location could work.

[Black Page]

If anyone is looking for a hotel. I stayed at the Hotel BH EL Poblado for a few nights and it was fairly nice. New modern hotel with a comfy room, good price and convenient location, right next to the Santa Fe mall. Best part, its chica friendly. I kind of like when they at least check their ID, but this place didn't even do that.The Hotel Manager will be happy to read this, should he find this page with Google or whatever referral from friends.

Those or who serves at night shift will have some tough time.

[HarvestBoi]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/20/what-took-medellin-s-top-american-pimp-so-long-to-get-caught.html

Despite the laughable claim that Jake was Medellin's top pimp, the willingness to conflate exploitation of [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls and perfectly legal (and largely tolerated) activities between consenting adults, something like this puts MDE on the radar, not in a good way.

[Paulie97]

Despite the laughable claim that Jake was Medellin's top pimpThat claim isn't made unless it's embedded in the article and I missed it. The title calls him the city's "top American pimp." Given the likely relatively small number of American expat pimps, that might not be a very hard title to attain.

[Black Page]

That claim isn't made unless it's embedded in the article and I missed it. The title calls him the city's "top American pimp." Given the likely relatively small number of American expat pimps, that might not be a very hard title to attain.ROFL.

Yes: the best of the best among one.

[Paulie97]

ROFL.

Yes: the best of the best among one.And the author was probably likewise being facetious.

[CPlusPlus]

Whats up fellas, don't do much of writing reports here in this forum as I see that some of you all are very patronizing LOL (Which ironically nobody who does this hobby should be.) Anyways, 3 years ago I wanted to move to Medallin, I even posted in the Living and retirement thread here and wanted to spend $50 k USD in women LOL (How stupid of me to write that LOL) Anyhow that never happened instead I stayed in the states, progressed in my company, I even made a paisa friend from accounting in my company and we make trips together to Medellin every 2 months LOL (I have 21 paid vacations days and he has 28 a year, so we just take 5-6 day vacation trips over there to spread it out over the year) and man I sure tell you guys Medellin is the living embodiment of paradise, I have been going there these two years periodically like this and I sure never get bored of it, neither my friend, and besides Medellin I have only traveled to Pereyra and Santa Marta. Either way I always wondered what are peoples usual trip expenses and budget for their pleasure trips. For me it goes like this:

I have two trips, one that will involve one girl over there, you can call her like a long distance girlfriend kindy of thing, but I just go spend a lot of time with her, obviously have relations with her, somebody whom I meet outside the whole pros and mongering environment, college girl nice, almost good wife material but naw I don't obviously love her its all lust LOL. Those trips with her really will just involve like $600 dollars or like 2 million pesos just for the 5 days I go there, even less, going out to eat, go to San Javier to swimming pools or San Felix, go out have fun at night even invite her sister and friends too, and I will escape discreetly if given the chance and do a casa run. Plane tickets average me about $200-$300 from spirit airlines from FT Laudardale. So GF trip is about $1000 USD all together with the flight for the 4 or 5 nights I am there.

If you notice I did not mention a hotel because the parents of my paisa buddy from accounting has an extra apartment in Laureles that either I or my friend stay at, I gave his parents $500 dollars for the year to let me stay whenever I wanted to even if they refused the money at first, even then its good for me I usually go for 20 days a year and when you do the math its only $25 a night to have your own private furnished apartment in a strato 4 neighborhood.

Now monger trips is another different animal LOL, these are the ones I do more of with my lecherous paisa buddy here from accounting LOL, and it is funny because you would think that as more of these trips you do the less you spend but now, paisas spoil you and damn its like its so cheap that like they put a few pages back you feel as if you ripping them off LOL. So we mainly just hunt pros in the daytime, we eat traditional food at traditional restaurants in the street like in el centro or close to where we stay, you know 10 k pesos a meal kindly of deal, we drink all day but we buy from the store a lot too, and really don't go to expensive casas, just energy that is our most expensive destination which is nothing really, but mostly we do our hunting in el centro. We usually drink a ton of ginseng and apply menthol and dick rings after the second day as we do 3-4 casa hunts a day, my friend usually just goes with one chick in one hand, I in the other hand do a lot of threesomes or orgies, for example in our last trip this is how we did it in our first day LOL: We went to new life, I went in with two chicks at once, totally forgot one of their names but one was Katrina, it was for 2 hours, $280 k for the service if I am not mistaken, gave one a 50 k pesos tip for BBBJ, DATY and ass sucking, and the other I negotiated 150 k for all that plus anal sex (the other chick did not want to give me her culito) bought a ton of chelas (beers) for me and the chicks I left from that place spending like 550 k, then we went out walked around el centro for a little bit went to eat, and before you know it went to energy spa in Laureles, there I did a 4 woman orgies for another 2 hours, for the service it was like 560 k pesos but then I obviously bought everyone of them drinks plus me and I tip them all 50 k each for kisses in mouth, BBBJ, DATY and ass eating, and I was super drunk from drinking all day and I gave two of the chicks an additional $300 k each for anal sex (sorry for inflating the prices guys) man I was drunk but I know I left energy spending almost close to 2 million pesos, no regrets whatsoever, it was a Thursday and later I went to club Babylon in el Poblado that they had all you can drink miller lites and we even went to the VIP with my buddy and got ourselves 4 bottles that they had 2 x1, 2 of absolute and 2 of patron, there I passed out in the club and don't remember a single thing hahahahahaahaah next day with an awful hangover went to go find soncocho and places they could do you micheladas and drank a ton of them and repeat the casa runs and fun. My trips with this buddy of mine now average me about 9-10 millon pesos, I mean its around $3 k usd, which is less than what you would spend in a trip to Miami or Las Vegas but in Medellin its like royalty treatment LOL.

And ultimately how much you all spend on anal sex tip? When I am still sober I offer 100 k in the table and go for max $150 k, once I am drunk I go for $300 k-$400 k pesos for it like a dumbass LOL.

[CPlusPlus]

Whats up fellas, don't do much of writing reports here in this forum as I see that some of you all are very patronizing LOL (Which ironically nobody who does this hobby should be.) Anyways, 3 years ago I wanted to move to Medallin, I even posted in the Living and retirement thread here and wanted to spend $50 k USD in women LOL (How stupid of me to write that LOL) Anyhow that never happened instead I stayed in the states, progressed in my company, I even made a paisa friend from accounting in my company and we make trips together to Medellin every 2 months LOL (I have 21 paid vacations days and he has 28 a year, so we just take 5-6 day vacation trips over there to spread it out over the year) and man I sure tell you guys Medellin is the living embodiment of paradise, I have been going there these two years periodically like this and I sure never get bored of it, neither my friend, and besides Medellin I have only traveled to Pereyra and Santa Marta. Either way I always wondered what are peoples usual trip expenses and budget for their pleasure trips. For me it goes like this:.Very quick a correction, I noticed I wrote that I spent $560 k on service in energy but that was just the initial hour thus I had to spend another $560 k on an additional second hour, felt the need to clarify that before you all "politically correct" get on me for that.

[Surfer500]

Whats up fellas, don't do much of writing reports here in this forum as I see that some of you all are very patronizing LOL (Which ironically nobody who does this hobby should be.) Anyways, 3 years ago I wanted to move to Medallin, I even posted in the Living and retirement thread here and wanted to spend $50 k USD in women LOL (How stupid of me to write that LOL) Anyhow that never happened instead I stayed in the states, progressed in my company, I even made a paisa friend from accounting in my company and we make trips together to Medellin every 2 months LOL (I have 21 paid vacations days and he has 28 a year, so we just take 5-6 day vacation trips over there to spread it out over the year) and man I sure tell you guys Medellin is the living embodiment of paradise, I have been going there these two years periodically like this and I sure never get bored of it, neither my friend, and besides Medellin I have only traveled to Pereyra and Santa Marta. Either way I always wondered what are peoples usual trip expenses and budget for their pleasure trips. For me it goes like this:

I have two trips, one that will involve one girl over there, you can call her like a long distance girlfriend kindy of thing, but I just go spend a lot of time with her, obviously have relations with her, somebody whom I meet outside the whole pros and mongering environment, college girl nice, almost good wife material but naw I don't obviously love her its all lust LOL. Those trips with her really will just involve like $600 dollars or like 2 million pesos just for the 5 days I go there, even less, going out to eat, go to San Javier to swimming pools or San Felix, go out have fun at night even invite her sister and friends too, and I will escape discreetly if given the chance and do a casa run...For these type of services you you could probably get some skanky sacaleros in El Centro who wouldn't charge more than 20 K per session so you can do the math as to how much you would spend on such a perverted type of trip.

[Paulie97]

I obviously bought everyone of them drinks plus me and I tip them all 50 k each for kisses in mouth, BBBJ, DATY and ass eating, and I was super drunk from drinking all day and I gave two of the chicks an additional $300 k each for anal sex (sorry for inflating the prices guys) man I was drunk but I know I left energy spending almost close to 2 million pesos, no regrets whatsoever,.Sounds like you forgot for a while that you weren't in the states and spent accordingly. And that particular casa is overpriced even before the senseless tossing money around, and I bet it was all done in short pants, socks with sandals, NFL jersies and swinging beer bellies. How's that for "condescending"? LOL.

Let me recommend a venue to you, Costa Rica. Perfect spot for you.

[BlueChange]

Hey how is the Lineup at Energy recently? Heading there end of this month and that's always been my favorite. There was this super blanco red head with bolt ones and an angel face that I regret not seeing a year ago. Never again!! If I see her there I'm soo down!BUMP guys,

What's the haps on Energy lately?

[Black Page]

For these type of services you you could probably get some skanky sacaleros in El Centro who wouldn't charge more than 20 K per session so you can do the math as to how much you would spend on such a perverted type of trip.Definitely right, except that the "skanky sacaleros" are not necessarily ugly with body spoiled by drugs. There are also some true gems hiding in some corner, if one can dig.

The true problem is that someone in short pants, socks with sandals, NFL jersies and swinging beer bellies, tossing money around (see below) would not have a long mileage in El Centro. It's a matter of habitat for each different species.


Sounds like you forgot for a while that you weren't in the states and spent accordingly. And that particular casa is overpriced even before the senseless tossing money around, and I bet it was all done in short pants, socks with sandals, NFL jersies and swinging beer bellies. How's that for "condescending"? LOL.
Let me recommend a venue to you, Costa Rica. Perfect spot for you.Perfect spot on. I wish to bet with you. But who would accept our bet??

[CPlusPlus]

I believe none of you know me or will ever know me for that matter to make quite a statement about me and what I would wear or what I would do. I certainly did not come here to post a report and get some prejudiced comments. Either way I posted and if it some way my information and report helps a least one person at least with the topic of an update in price, then it was worth it.

And no, I may be an American born citizen, but my folks are Mexican, and I do not fit any of you all stereotypes, I am actually 5'7 in height, weight only like 135 pounds so no beer belly, and I am if anything a very humble and generous guy and have no problem hunting for putas in el centro, la mayorista, minorista, shit I will go to San Javier and I know for a fact I blend in more than you all LOL. As matter of fact on my next trip there in a few weeks aside from women hunting with my buddy, I will do an extended stay there and when my buddy leaves from MDE I will pretend to have just arrived to a chica I told you all about earlier and we planning to do an excursion to impoverished area of el choco and I am going to go to help and even donate a good deal of money to the cause.

[Paulie97]

I will go to San Javier and I know for a fact I blend in more than you all LOL.Not if you go to spending $700 for sexo. From that very moment you will stick out like a sore thumb. LOL.

[Surfer500]

I believe none of you know me or will ever know me for that matter to make quite a statement about me and what I would wear or what I would do. I certainly did not come here to post a report and get some prejudiced comments. Either way I posted and if it some way my information and report helps a least one person at least with the topic of an update in price, then it was worth it.

And no, I may be an American born citizen, but my folks are Mexican, and I do not fit any of you all stereotypes, I am actually 5'7 in height, weight only like 135 pounds so no beer belly, and I am if anything a very humble and generous guy and have no problem hunting for putas in el centro, la mayorista, minorista, shit I will go to San Javier and I know for a fact I blend in more than you all LOL. As matter of fact on my next trip there in a few weeks aside from women hunting with my buddy, I will do an extended stay there and when my buddy leaves from MDE I will pretend to have just arrived to a chica I told you all about earlier and we planning to do an excursion to impoverished area of el choco and I am going to go to help and even donate a good deal of money to the cause.Your post looking for backdoor activities is not real common in Colombia. You should head to perhaps Brazil where it will be more common.

[Queber331]

Hello all,

I'm planning a trip to Medellin in October and read something about a past Pablo Escobar mansion that is now a great Casa / Brothel with a large selection on women and lots of fun.

Does anyone have any intel on this location or other recos?

Thanks.

[CPlusPlus]

Your post looking for backdoor activities is not real common in Colombia. You should head to perhaps Brazil where it will be more common.Well I would not say uncommon either, as you saw on my post, there were a few girls that were willing to do it no prob with just an normal upcharge, and some that were hesitant but once I gave them a tip that was higher than the service, they did gave in to it. Of course there were chicks that no matter how much I offer they would not give up their culito, just like when I went it with those 4 girls from energy, I offered them all 4 extra money for anal and only two obliged, the other two looked like they would say no no matter how much I gave, so going on by that scenario its a 50/50 ratio. However a good amount about 90% of pros I have encountered do allow ass eating towards them, tho I do admit that a much smaller amount allow themselves to eat my ass LOL.

I would never go to Brazil, just from reading a few posts on threads here in ISG it looks like it is a lot more expensive there than in Medellin not just on mongering but going out to eat, transportation etc etc. Add that in Brazil I don't have a hookup to stay in an apartment nor do I know portuguese and I despise language barriers in sex, nothing can be more of a turn off than losing myself in translation trying to explain to her that I want to fuck or suction her culo LOL.


Not if you go to spending $700 for sexo. From that very moment you will stick out like a sore thumb. LOL.No shit Sherlock, but obviously if I was there for any reason I would not lavishly spend my money there nor have it visible, I would not even carry my Iphone or watch there nor would I carry my money in my pocket, the very little bit I will hide in my shoe soil. Believe me I am not at all worried where I walk over there in Medellin, I earned a black belt in aikido a while back to make up for my small stature and if a thug or a niño rata want to rob me, even if he is armed you better believe that I will be the one ending up with the gun LOL (now if it is multiple armed thugs then yeah I don't retaliate LOL I am not stupid either).

[Gotta GO]

Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner. I guess there is a school for this and it must be a scam because she said shell have to learn English to get a good job or even a job. She can't speak a lick.

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist. Because I always talk politics with my girls I get to know them a little better. Non prefer dark skinned neighbors. I say this because I'm very white and handsome and I'm not your typical single male goober tourist. I've also met many men on my trips just on the courts. I'm going to the Medellin match Wednesday at 6:30. Colombian guys can turn the pages and get me in social clicks. Tomorrow I meet another light haired girl with green eyes at the San Antonio stop that said she has a boyfriend. Maybe hes an arse or poor. Poor people get on my freaking nerves but in Colombia it sure creates opportunities if you don't mind a little paying for dinners, cabs and plane tickets to the coast.

Well the only other thing I can think of is that a lot of the BS you guys argue about is the same BS that the last litter of mongers argued about.

[ThomasK12]

Traveling to Medellin in September 10-15 solo for this first time. Curious if anyone has feedback on the escort websites? Would like to order in some. I know backpage and such in the US is pretty much bullshit! T but wondering if the Medellin sites are more legit. Here are a couple that stuck out as possibly TGTBT. I subscribed to this website but am having a little difficulty with the format for searches / organization. Any tips / pointers are greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/angelica-modelo-internacional-de-paso-por-tu-ciudad-sexy-ardiente-unica-bella/1591274/

http://bellezaspaisas.net/prepago-medellin-yandra.html

[ThomasK12]

Hello all,

I'm planning a trip to Medellin in October and read something about a past Pablo Escobar mansion that is now a great Casa / Brothel with a large selection on women and lots of fun.

Does anyone have any intel on this location or other recos?

Thanks.It's called Loutrons. Making my first trip to MDE in Selt and definitely plan on checking it out. Supposed to be premium girls for premium prices.

[El Mechanico]

Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner. I guess there is a school for this and it must be a scam because she said shell have to learn English to get a good job or even a job. She can't speak a lick.

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist..You are certainly very proud of yourself! I guess if you aren't, who would be huh?

El Mechanico.

[Paulie97]

little bit I will hide in my shoe soil. Any thief worth his salt asks his victim to remove his shoes. Since you are trying to rehabilitate yourself, convince us that you are not foolish afterall, this one I'm afraid earns you no points. .


Believe me I am not at all worried where I walk over there in Medellin, I earned a black belt in aikidoLololol Whatever man, like that has anything to do with the price of rice in China. Lolol.


if a thug or a nio rata want to rob me, even if he is armed you better believe that I will be the one ending up with the gunOkay, and I guess next you'll tell us that your aikido moves are so effective that you can neutralize flying bullets. Rofl.


I am not stupid either).Okay, but are you sure? I must confess that after reading of your spending habits at Energy along with this follow up post I have my doubts.

[Revere]

Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner. I guess there is a school for this and it must be a scam because she said shell have to learn English to get a good job or even a job. She can't speak a lick.

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist. Because I always talk politics with my girls I get to know them a little better. Non prefer dark skinned neighbors. I say this because I'm very white and handsome and I'm not your typical single male goober tourist. I've also met many men on my trips just on the courts. I'm going to the Medellin match Wednesday at 6:30. Colombian guys can turn the pages and get me in social clicks. Tomorrow I meet another light haired girl with green eyes at the San Antonio stop that said she has a boyfriend. Maybe hes an arse or poor. Poor people get on my freaking nerves but in Colombia it sure creates opportunities if you don't mind a little paying for dinners, cabs and plane tickets to the coast.

Well the only other thing I can think of is that a lot of the BS you guys argue about is the same BS that the last litter of mongers argued about.I cannot let this go! Yes, I am black and I grew up poor and was with Bird last night and he grew up in Magnolia and he grew up poor too! SO WHAT! I hope I go to heaven I know I am not perfect, but when the question is asked did I forget where I came from I can at least say last night when we spilled drinks in VIP and the young Dominican cat that came over and mopped it up and we told him he needed to put his mop down and have shots of patron with us and the owner of the club let him hang with us. He knew he had no choice. We wanted to show everyone in the club we are better than no one and we got money! In fact, Bird bought T the new jeep Bently and that is not even out yet. You know you cannot do that. Now, let's go over something all those racists young girls you talk too who do not like blacks, trust me when we come to town and I think it will be in November they will be begging to get in the club when we party. Why you think that happens? Take notes, it is because young women want to party at the hottest events and dance to the hottest beats with cool people. The girls you thought were racists they will not want to talk or be seen with you in the club as they want to look cool and the way you talk and think you have absolutely no swagger. Let me say this again, if you are really popping you do not care what another man looks like or does in life and your thankful everyday you doing well in life. A weak man is always trying to tell everyone he is doing well. He just an insecure *****! Who cares if a man wears flip flops with socks and has a belly if he has a hot chick on his arm I am happy for him. Never going to hate. Show stop when I walk into the club and thankful I am fortunate to have it like that. "To whom much is given much is expected". We are flying private when we come tell us the country club you talk about, but afraid to share, Bird and I play golf and we are not members of that club people invite you too. Trust me they will let us in and will want to take pictures. Happens all the time. You be surprised all the racists who want to hang with us! Them old cats sitting right next to us in VIP from the country club and having the time of there life! That's game son - kick rocks!!!

[Paulie97]

Who cares if a man wears flip flops with socks and has a belly Well it's actually sandals with socks but close enough. We are talking about the uniform. LOL And all are of course free to go to Medellin dressed like one is in the US, acting like one is in the US, and spending like one is in the US. But don't look for any help from us that go by the philosophy "when in Rome, do as the Romans do. " We'the just as soon segregate that arrogance in Costa Rica where it has a long history and well established foothold. Now that will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) some people off, but at least when they find that some are not eager to help them with info they now know why.

[Eszpresszo]

BUMP guys,

What's the haps on Energy lately?Why don't you go pay a visit and report back to us? The most it will cost you is $50 and it sure is a lot more rewarding than bumping up an old thread.

[RudDock]

Dang. Tell it is like it is. Haha. I'm just mocking how stupid you sound. Who gives a fuck how cool you think you two guys are?


I cannot let this go! Yes, I am black and I grew up poor and was with Bird last night and he grew up in Magnolia and he grew up poor too! SO WHAT! I hope I go to heaven I know I am not perfect, but when the question is asked did I forget where I came from I can at least say last night when we spilled drinks in VIP and the young Dominican cat that came over and mopped it up and we told him he needed to put his mop down and have shots of patron with us and the owner of the club let him hang with us. He knew he had no choice. We wanted to show everyone in the club we are better than no one and we got money! In fact, Bird bought T the new jeep Bently and that is not even out yet. You know you cannot do that. Now, let's go over something all those racists young girls you talk too who do not like blacks, trust me when we come to town and I think it will be in November they will be begging to get in the club when we party. Why you think that happens? Take notes, it is because young women want to party at the hottest events and dance to the hottest beats with cool people. The girls you thought were racists they will not want to talk or be seen with you in the club as they want to look cool and the way you talk and think you have absolutely no swagger. Let me say this again, if you are really popping you do not care what another man looks like or does in life and your thankful everyday you doing well in life. A weak man is always trying to tell everyone he is doing well. He just an insecure *****! Who cares if a man wears flip flops with socks and has a belly if he has a hot chick on his arm I am happy for him. Never going to hate. Show stop when I walk into the club and thankful I am fortunate to have it like that. "To whom much is given much is expected". We are flying private when we come tell us the country club you talk about, but afraid to share, Bird and I play golf and we are not members of that club people invite you too. Trust me they will let us in and will want to take pictures. Happens all the time. You be surprised all the racists who want to hang with us! Them old cats sitting right next to us in VIP from the country club and having the time of there life! That's game son - kick rocks!!!

[Paulie97]

Why don't you go pay a visit and report back to us? The most it will cost you is $50 and it sure is a lot more rewarding than bumping up an old thread.That's too logical, way too simple a solution.

[Combo]

Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner. I guess there is a school for this and it must be a scam because she said shell have to learn English to get a good job or even a job. She can't speak a lick.

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist. Because I always talk politics with my girls I get to know them a little better. Non prefer dark skinned neighbors. I say this because I'm very white and handsome and I'm not your typical single male goober tourist. I've also met many men on my trips just on the courts. I'm going to the Medellin match Wednesday at 6:30. Colombian guys can turn the pages and get me in social clicks. Tomorrow I meet another light haired girl with green eyes at the San Antonio stop that said she has a boyfriend. Maybe hes an arse or poor. Poor people get on my freaking nerves but in Colombia it sure creates opportunities if you don't mind a little paying for dinners, cabs and plane tickets to the coast.

Well the only other thing I can think of is that a lot of the BS you guys argue about is the same BS that the last litter of mongers argued about.Thanks for your post. Are you a member at Campestre? If not, do you have to have a member invite you to go? I'd love to play some golf and tennis while on vacation in MDE. I had a non-pro Paisa invite me to Campestre with her once, but she wasn't so hot, so I didn't take her up on it.

What's the deal with the Hotel there? If you stay there, can you use their facilities?

Thanks in advance. I've dabbled a bit in non-pro action in MDE. It can be done if you have time on the ground and get outside of Poblado (and speak Spanish). However, given that my trips are generally two weeks or less, the pro route usually makes more sense.

[SavePros321]

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist. Because I always talk politics with my girls I get to know them a little better. Non prefer dark skinned neighbors. I say this because I'm very white and handsome and I'm not your typical single male goober tourist.I would say generally most women are racist until they find out that you are are not broke.

Ask little Wayne and Aziz.

(I was tempted to Use Tiger Woods as an example, but felt that would be too easy)

I'm sure I've seen something along the lines of "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" around here somewhere...

[Knowledge]

Perverted, really? Isn't that a little judgmental? It's not what I would choose to do but, wow, I would never go in on a guy for being honest about what he wants to do.


For these type of services you you could probably get some skanky sacaleros in El Centro who wouldn't charge more than 20 K per session so you can do the math as to how much you would spend on such a perverted type of trip.

[Revere]

I would say generally most women are racist until they find out that you are are not broke.

Ask little Wayne.

I'm sure I've seen something along the lines of "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" around here somewhere...Save it kills them when your not racist have more money than them can walk into the club hit the dj take it over and then shoot in the low 80's the next day. The hottest chick's want to hang at your table, but they call you stupid, but have to wait in line to get in! You see them thinking how can this be who is he?

[Knowledge]

Are you being fair to the girls you mention when you describe them as racist? Are you sure it's not you who is the racist?


Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner..

[CPlusPlus]

BUMP guys,

What's the haps on Energy lately?You should check this girl out Samantha, I uploaded some pics of her, she was there a month and a half ago so I am not sure if she still there, but she was one of the girls from my orgy, a Esperanza gomez wannabe look she had with nice fake tits, she was sweet and while she was one of the ones that did not offer anal, she compensated with other feats, she knows how to twerk and ride your cock good, plus you can always stick your tongue on her * LOL.

Also another recommendation will be Gabriela, like 18 or 19 and very sweet brunette chick, she had braces and had a nice little mole on her right butt check, very delicious and does do anal, very complacent and a very delicious asshole too, yum yum. (I don't have pics of her tho bro).


Any thief worth his salt asks his victim to remove his shoes. Since you are trying to rehabilitate yourself, convince us that you are not foolish afterall, this one I'm afraid earns you no points. .

Lololol Whatever man, like that has anything to do with the price of rice in China. Lolol.

Okay, and I guess next you'll tell us that your aikido moves are so effective that you can neutralize flying bullets. Rofl.

Okay, but are you sure? I must confess that after reading of your spending habits at Energy along with this follow up post I have my doubts.Lets stop and analyze and think for a second, why are we even arguing for? LOL we are in a sex forum where we should be focusing all our energy to contribute useful information on obtaining sex whether it be Pay for play or free or whatever, my problem is the same as yours as that I have an obsessive compulsive disorder as much as you do to reply and argue back and forth LOL I have been thinking about just ignoring your posts because I am inclined to think that you are just taking pleasure of trolling me LOL but legit tho at what point did I give a you a sense of arrogance? Was it because of what I shared on how I foolishly overspent on energy? Come on. Man, cut me some slack, plus would it bother you that I told you it was not my only occasion I spent money like that there? And are you going to tell me that at one point of your life you never gotten drunk and overspent and indulged a little? I noticed it was only because of that little fact that you started harassing and bullying me, I even mentioned I did casa hunts at el centro even tho I have only really been to new life, blue room and sexy fantasias and you never mention anything negative about that. The only reason I go to energy is because it is walking distance from the apartment I stay at over there, and whether or not you believe its overpriced the selection of women are outstanding, sorry to say but they were a one step above centro chicas, which I am not saying they are bad or ugly or anything or equating higher priced sex to superior service, not at all, but they were more variety of sexier chicks, the selection of women of all the times I have gone have been great so that's why I continue going. Anyways, lets just call truce man and I will do my best to not get off topic and whenever AI have an experience in Medellin when it comes to pros (I don't see any reason to share my non pro action as with non pros I am a lot more respectful and discreet towards them, working girls are working girls you know whatever we can share whatever we want about them I am sure we are all at some point "hermanos de leche" LOL) I will just contribute info on chicas from casas and all that and which to recommend and which to avoid, I won't even mention in detail how much I spent or even the explicit details, just get on point with the subject and provide whatever valuable info I can to any readers out there. The least thing I want to do is cause a sleight to someones vanity.

(BTW, just because of the OCD, the only reason I mentioned that whole aikido thing is because my sensei trained me very extensively on how to disarm a person if they were pointing a gun towards me, whether it be behind me on my back, in front of me towards my body or my head, or on my side. As a matter of fact I always practiced with him using a unloaded gun, the best way to disarm and to to know how to defend myself if I had a gun pointed towards me, and we practiced so many times that I swear it is in my muscle memory and I am pretty confident that I can disarm one amateur thief in the street if needed, fortunately I have yet to do that and I hope I will never have to LOL).

P.S. Out of curiosity, I will not get shot at if I go to energy next time and if a jerk on here in ISG were to tell her that I uploaded a picture of her online right? If that is the case will the editor and and or Mod delete the pics then if it will cause me to lose my life.

[Gotta GO]

Thanks for your post. Are you a member at Campestre? If not, do you have to have a member invite you to go? I'd love to play some golf and tennis while on vacation in MDE. I had a non-pro Paisa invite me to Campestre with her once, but she wasn't so hot, so I didn't take her up on it.

What's the deal with the Hotel there? If you stay there, can you use their facilities?

Thanks in advance. I've dabbled a bit in non-pro action in MDE. It can be done if you have time on the ground and get outside of Poblado (and speak Spanish). However, given that my trips are generally two weeks or less, the pro route usually makes more sense.Good tennis players are in demand so I got in through invitations from their pros and players. El rodeo has contracts with san Fernando plaza and other hotels I think. El rodeo is better, Campestre in llano grande is the best. Slalom skiing, golf, tennis, polo. Very private and very choose if you know what I mean.

[TellAll]

I would say generally most women are racist until they find out that you are are not broke.

Ask little Wayne and Aziz.

(I was tempted to Use Tiger Woods as an example, but felt that would be too easy)

I'm sure I've seen something along the lines of "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" around here somewhere...No such thing as rich and too _ Put any perceived negative in the blank.

[SavePros321]

No such thing as rich and too _ Put any perceived negative in the blank.And I would say a good number of us are considered to be rich compared to the average South American.

[CPlusPlus]

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[Paulie97]

Man, cut me some slack...I noticed it was only because of that little fact that you started harassing and bullying me...You don't sound like any ninja warrior to me. LOL.


The only reason I go to energy is because it is walking distance from the apartment I stay at over there, and whether or not you believe its overpriced the selection of women are outstanding, sorry to say but they were a one step above centro chicas,For the record I disagree with this.


P.S. Out of curiosity, I will not get shot at if I go to energy next time and if a jerk on here in ISG were to tell her that I uploaded a picture of her online right? If that is the case will the editor and and or Mod delete the pics then if it will cause me to lose my life.You should never publish a photo of a chica without first getting her permission, and the fact that you paid her 10 times the going rate makes no difference.

[TellAll]

And I would say a good number of us are considered to be rich compared to the average South American.Exactly my point.

[BlueChange]

You should check this girl out Samantha, I uploaded some pics of her, she was there a month and a half ago so I am not sure if she still there, but she was one of the girls from my orgy, a Esperanza gomez wannabe look she had with nice fake tits, she was sweet and while she was one of the ones that did not offer anal, she compensated with other feats, she knows how to twerk anwd ride your cock good, plus you can always stick your tongue on her * LOL.

Also another recommendation will be Gabriela, like 18 or 19 and very sweet brunette chick, she had braces and had a nice little mole on her right butt check, very delicious and does do anal, very complacent and a very delicious asshole too, yum yum. (I don't have pics of her tho bro).

Lets stop and analyze and think for a second, why are we even arguing for? LOL we are in a sex forum where we should be focusing all our energy to contribute useful information on obtaining sex whether it be Pay for play or free or whatever, my problem is the same as yours as that I have an obsessive compulsive disorder as much as you do to reply and argue back and forth LOL I have been thinking about just ignoring your posts because I am inclined to think that you are just taking pleasure of trolling me LOL but legit tho at what point did I give a you a sense of arrogance? Was it because of what I shared on how I foolishly overspent on energy? Come on. Man, cut me some slack, plus would it bother you that I told you it was not my only occasion I spent money like that there? And are you going to tell me that at one point of your life you never gotten drunk and overspent and indulged a little? I noticed it was only because of that little fact that you started harassing and bullying me, I even mentioned I did casa hunts at el centro even tho I have only really been to new life, blue room and sexy fantasias and you never mention anything negative about that. The only reason I go to energy is because it is walking distance from the apartment I stay at over there, and whether or not you believe its overpriced the selection of women are outstanding, sorry to say but they were a one step above centro chicas, which I am not saying they are bad or ugly or anything or equating higher priced sex to superior service, not at all, but they were more variety of sexier chicks, the selection of women of all the times I have gone have been great so that's why I continue going. Anyways, lets just call truce man and I will do my best to not get off topic and whenever AI have an experience in Medellin when it comes to pros (I don't see any reason to share my non pro action as with non pros I am a lot more respectful and discreet towards them, working girls are working girls you know whatever we can share whatever we want about them I am sure we are all at some point "hermanos de leche" LOL) I will just contribute info on chicas from casas and all that and which to recommend and which to avoid, I won't even mention in detail how much I spent or even the explicit details, just get on point with the subject and provide whatever valuable info I can to any readers out there. The least thing I want to do is cause a sleight to someones vanity.

(BTW, just because of the OCD, the only reason I mentioned that whole aikido thing is because my sensei trained me very extensively on how to disarm a person if they were pointing a gun towards me, whether it be behind me on my back, in front of me towards my body or my head, or on my side. As a matter of fact I always practiced with him using a unloaded gun, the best way to disarm and to to know how to defend myself if I had a gun pointed towards me, and we practiced so many times that I swear it is in my muscle memory and I am pretty confident that I can disarm one amateur thief in the street if needed, fortunately I have yet to do that and I hope I will never have to LOL).

P.S. Out of curiosity, I will not get shot at if I go to energy next time and if a jerk on here in ISG were to tell her that I uploaded a picture of her online right? If that is the case will the editor and and or Mod delete the pics then if it will cause me to lose my life.Thanks homie!!

Good to hear that place is still popping.

Did yky see a pale skinned red head with a fatty and a pair of bolt ONS??

[CPlusPlus]

Thanks homie!!

Good to hear that place is still popping.

Did yky see a pale skinned red head with a fatty and a pair of bolt ONS??There were many chicks that fit the description of fake tits and a nice ass, but there were so many that time that I do not remember if noticed a redhead pale skin with fake tits and a big ass, I know the times I went month a half ago I did not have a service with a redhead, but like I said who knows because she could might as well be there because I would not notice a chick like that, my fascination is with slim chicks how I like to call them "huesito castigador".

Maybe she is still there man, if she is make sure to keep her contact that way you can keep tabs on her in case she goes to another casa or she goes independent or whatever.

[Knowledge]

She may have dyed her hair once or twice.


There were many chicks that fit the description of fake tits and a nice ass, but there were so many that time that I do not remember if noticed a redhead pale skin with fake tits and a big ass, I know the times I went month a half ago I did not have a service with a redhead, but like I said who knows because she could might as well be there because I would not notice a chick like that, my fascination is with slim chicks how I like to call them "huesito castigador".

Maybe she is still there man, if she is make sure to keep her contact that way you can keep tabs on her in case she goes to another casa or she goes independent or whatever.

[BlueChange]

There were many chicks that fit the description of fake tits and a nice ass, but there were so many that time that I do not remember if noticed a redhead pale skin with fake tits and a big ass, I know the times I went month a half ago I did not have a service with a redhead, but like I said who knows because she could might as well be there because I would not notice a chick like that, my fascination is with slim chicks how I like to call them "huesito castigador".

Maybe she is still there man, if she is make sure to keep her contact that way you can keep tabs on her in case she goes to another casa or she goes independent or whatever.Will do. I'll have a nice detail report coming soon!!

[Iguana Six]

Dollar has taken a 10% beat down in the last couple of months. The places close to Parque Lleras are offering a high of cop2770 and a low of cop2700. What are the places at the mall offering?

Yeah, yeah, I know. I could the xyz credit card and use and ATM. Blah, blah, blah. I have my reasons for not wanting to do that.

[El Mechanico]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I could the xyz credit card and use and ATM. Blah, blah, blah. I have my reasons for not wanting to do that.That's pretty funny! As I read the first sentence I was thinking, Charles Schwab card would get you. Then I read the second sentence & had a little chuckle!

[Tbird]

Dollar has taken a 10% beat down in the last couple of months. The places close to Parque Lleras are offering a high of cop2770 and a low of cop2700. What are the places at the mall offering?

Yeah, yeah, I know. I could the xyz credit card and use and ATM. Blah, blah, blah. I have my reasons for not wanting to do that.I am getting 2,975 through the ATM. Right now in Poblado. I guess your reasons are good enough to accept a lower rate which will most likely always be the case in casas the cambio.

[Tbird]

Does anyone know the name of the establishment? There are two apartments in Hotel LLeras definitely with chicas working. I am staying at the hotel with the novia and will not partake, but was curious. Have run a search on forum but cannot find anything. Both apartments are on the second floor.

[Chesscat]

I was going to play, called the club El Rodeo and they said come on. In fact I called them from the States. We ended up not playing, but it seems they welcome foreigners.

http://www.clubelrodeo.co/


Thanks for your post. Are you a member at Campestre? If not, do you have to have a member invite you to go? I'd love to play some golf and tennis while on vacation in MDE. I had a non-pro Paisa invite me to Campestre with her once, but she wasn't so hot, so I didn't take her up on it.

What's the deal with the Hotel there? If you stay there, can you use their facilities?

Thanks in advance. I've dabbled a bit in non-pro action in MDE. It can be done if you have time on the ground and get outside of Poblado (and speak Spanish). However, given that my trips are generally two weeks or less, the pro route usually makes more sense.

[Combo]

I was going to play, called the club El Rodeo and they said come on. In fact I called them from the States. We ended up not playing, but it seems they welcome foreigners.

http://www.clubelrodeo.co/Wow, that's great news. I'm down there for a couple weeks in December and I'd love to get a few rounds in. It's very conveniently located also.

[CincyVirgo]

It's my first time to Medellin. I was lucky enough to go to the futbol game yesterday. Today I just wandering around. Riding the metro and some cable cars. I got off the train near the stadium and visited Energy Spa. Easy system, they had about 8 nice ladies. Damage was about 140 k for a hour with massage and all the extras. Thanks to the folks of this forum for the good reports and information.

[Nclpimp]

Does anyone know the name of the establishment? There are two apartments in Hotel LLeras definitely with chicas working. I am staying at the hotel with the novia and will not partake, but was curious. Have run a search on forum but cannot find anything. Both apartments are on the second floor.I know Barry has a studio apartment in there in the second floor. Apt 201. He rents out to gringos so maybe it's just girls the gringo is banging.

[CincyVirgo]

Does anyone have anything to report about a place called. Thai Spa? What about another spot called Jade Place near Parque Lleras? Thanks in advance for any info to be had.

[RLTeddy]

Does anyone have anything to report about a place called. Thai Spa? What about another spot called Jade Place near Parque Lleras? Thanks in advance for any info to be had.Check my Medellin post from July. Reviews on both places.

[Culture]

The reality is that 5 years ago Colombia welcomed the gringo. A gringo can and is any white skinned man be it Australian, European, Israeli, US guy or from where ever basically. Today the perception HAS completely changed. Gringos only come to fuck the Colombians on sex tours and drug addicts on drug binges.

It's sad but true. The perception is in fact in the process of shifting from single gringos being welcomed to Colombia to stay away you sex and drug addicted gringos.

This is just the start and the tip, it will get worse. I have my ears to the ground and have been watching this is like seeing a train wreck in the process.

So if your traveling to Colombia, any city be it MDE or Bogota or Cali or CTG, and your traveling alone or with another man (not a family) it is assumed now that your on a sex and or drug tourist vacation. This is especially true if your over 40 years of age.

Stay low and stay clear of drama and don't promote sex and drug tourism like these others have done. Big egos gets these boys into serious trouble and have any of you seen the inside of the overcrowded filthy Colombian prisons. It takes 4 years plus just to get to trial if you can live that long.

TTM.Incorrect. They call anyone from the western world, with a western accent a gringo. It is not regulated to whites.

[Fun Luvr]

I know Barry has a studio apartment in there in the second floor. Apt 201. He rents out to gringos so maybe it's just girls the gringo is banging.He used to have two apartments on the second floor, don't know about now. Maybe he is renting them to chicas. I have a FB friend who posted a while back that she has an apartment in Poblado. I think she is getting a group of chicas to work with her. Maybe she is working there.

[CPlusPlus]

Incorrect. They call anyone from the western world, with a western accent a gringo. It is not regulated to whites.I disagree with because of personal experience, every time I travel to a Latin American country I get the total opposite effect including Colombia. I am a technically a "gringo" since I was born in US soil and lived practically my whole life in the US, and I spend money like a gringo and live like one but since I am not a a typical tall Caucasian guy or black, and I am a short brown skinned Mexican American I do not get that stereotype, if anything whenever I go to Colombia and they ask me where I am from, if I tell them I am American they mostly make fun of me or think I am trying to "pretend" to be American, usually I get a funny response from Colombians like "si tu eres gringo entonces yo soy aleman jajajja" (If your a gringo then I am a German). So no, based on my personal experience I actually feel the gringo stereotype is exclusively for the white man.

[Turgid]

Incorrect. They call anyone from the western world, with a western accent a gringo. It is not regulated to whites.Perhaps someone with experience can respond. Do they call African Americans gringos? If they do I'll be very surprised.

[Knowledge]

Yes, that long winded post was incorrect about that and several other things. Colombia has a very active international business sector, especially in the larger cities. Traveling alone or in a group of men does not necessarily raise a red flag. The normal immigration question you get when you tell them you are traveling on business is "what company are you with"? It's a standard security screen to see if you hesitate or can't come up with an answer. The investigation would begin at that point. What was correct about the original post were the points about promoting drugs or sex trade. It's unwise and risky to do it. For anyone who is inexperienced or nervous, you don't need to worry about immigration or day to day problems during your trip if (1) you are prepared with any reasonable explanation for your visit (e. G. Museums, study Spanish, business, whatever), and (2) you don't pimp, deal or smuggle drugs, or mess with white powdery things. It also helps to avoid public intoxication and obnoxious behavior if you can.


Incorrect. They call anyone from the western world, with a western accent a gringo. It is not regulated to whites.

[Mr Enternational]

Perhaps someone with experience can respond. Do they call African Americans gringos? If they do I'll be very surprised.Yes. I am Black American. My girl from Venezuela visited me in the States a couple of weeks ago and was telling my mother the origin of gringo which I looked up while still driving and there was no hint of that origin. But she said it stemmed from US military being in Central and South America with their green uniforms and the people shouting "Green Go" at them because they wanted them out of their countries. But my Brazilian friends call me gringo as well. It has nothing to do with color; because if you think about it, those countries are made of all shades of people too. So it is more about where you are from, and not the color of your skin.

[EstebanH]

Does anyone have anything to report about a place called. Thai Spa? What about another spot called Jade Place near Parque Lleras? Thanks in advance for any info to be had.I tried Thai Spa. Its tucked away in a residential area and is clean and nice. The selection was kinda small. I lucked out and pulled a girl who was there on her first day. She did everything I asked. I totally enjoyed her. Its priced more like Energy but does not have the same talent. Its worth a try, but you may be out cab fare if you don't see something you like.

[Dickhead]

But she said it stemmed from US military being in Central and South America with their green uniforms and the people shouting "Green Go" at them because they wanted them out of their countries. I have heard that too, but it's bullshit. How do we know it's bullshit? Because the military wore blue and not green at the time of their little misadventures in Latin America. The word 'gringo' was well established before they ever wore green.

[Quagmire1974]

I have heard that too, but it's bullshit. How do we know it's bullshit? Because the military wore blue and not green at the time of their little misadventures in Latin America. The word 'gringo' was well established before they ever wore green.I remember Paul Harvey explaining the origin of the word "Gringo" during one of his "Rest of the Story" segments years ago. According to Harvey, the line of a popular song that cowboys used to sing back in the day on the prairies was "Green grows the wild grass all covered with dew. " From a distance, "green grows" sounded like "gringo" to Hispanics who heard it. Is it true? Meh, who knows.

[CincyVirgo]

I gave Jade Place a go. It very well located, just a few minutes easy walk from where I'm staying. Got there around lunch, was shown three girls. None were really what I normally look for. All three choices were dark and thick. Made a choice, had a really nice massage, that was the highlight. On the flip tried a few positions. But wasn't really into it so finished quick.

[Paulie97]

I have heard that too, but it's bullshit. How do we know it's bullshit? Because the military wore blue and not green at the time of their little misadventures in Latin America. The word 'gringo' was well established before they ever wore green.Here is an interesting discussion. Reportedly the word is found in print from late 1700's to early 1800's Spain which would rebut the green uniform association. The exact origin appears to be unknown but some theorize it derived from the Spanish word "griego" used in the Middle Ages to denote Greeks. The word gringo also appears to carry different shades of meaning depending on where it is used.

http://spanish.stackexchange.com/questions/1323/meaning-and-connotations-of-gringo

[Iguana Six]

Back in 2009, the park was a sleepy plaza surrounded by high end restaurants catering to the top 5% of local society, and those who could afford a fancy Sunday family meal asa treat. A crowd might be 100, maybe 200, people, and there would only be a couple cops patrolling the area.

A half dozen gringos drew a few curious stares, while the occassional middle aged gringo squiring a paisita half his age might get a "tsk tsk" and a momentary glare.

Fast forward to today. Crowds of 2,000 revelers on a weekend, 38-45 cops. A hundred ISG members would get lost among the sea of backpackers, faux Rastafarians, and "Sandal-istas". The Sandalistas don't stay in the expensive hotels, eat in the expensive hotels, or pay to drink in the better bars. They also seem adverse to soap and water, but the cloud of marijuana smoke seems to either cover up the BO, or dull their own sense of smell.

Many locals bought there town homes 5-20 years ago when it was the old Parque Lleras: quiet, clean, trendy, posh, safe. Three blocks away was enough to have peace and quiet. They are aghast that the park is like an aroused octopus, spreading its tentacles into the surrounding neighborhoods, 3, 5, and even 10 blocks away. Some homeowners are probably selling at a loss, as townhouse after town house is converted into a bar, a bistro, or a hostel.

The realization that Medellin was safe brought us down here, The decriminalization of marijuana laws, the perception that it was trendy and hip, and the crackdown in Amsterdam, brought the back packers here.

I think that the monger is being scapegoated. The middleaged monger spends a lot more a day than the sandalista.

[SavePros321]

I have heard that too, but it's bullshit. How do we know it's bullshit? Because the military wore blue and not green at the time of their little misadventures in Latin America. The word 'gringo' was well established before they ever wore green.Yeah, thought this word came about around the of Teddy Roosevelt and the Spanish-American War in 1896?

[Dickhead]

Yeah, thought this word came about around the of Teddy Roosevelt and the Spanish-American War in 1896?The oldest known use in literature is mid-18th century and it was in use in both the Old and New Worlds well before the Méxican War. What I was taught in my customs and cultures course was that it is an incorrect rendering or corruption of 'griego', which is used in Spain to describe incomprehensible speakers: hablan en griego, similar to how an English speaker might say, 'It's all Greek to me.'

Spanish-American War was 1898.

[Knowledge]

I was with you all the way until you suggested residents would sell at a loss to someone who turns the property into a bar or hotel. That doesn't add up. It's absolutely true the volume of revelers has seen explosive growth. That is why I have a hard time understanding how a property owner could lose money on a sale.

Agree 100% with your octopus analogy. See Provenza for proof positive. As for hostility toward May-December commercial couples, I think people who can't abide it avoid the area. It's a question of degrees really. There are certain pairings that even a low life like me would give a second look. But those are extreme tits out pros parading with cargo shorts and varicose vein loudmouths. Maybe it says more about me than it does about the punter / paisa pairs.


Back in 2009, the park was a sleepy plaza surrounded by high end restaurants catering to the top 5% of local society, and those who could afford a fancy Sunday family meal asa treat. A crowd might be 100, maybe 200, people, and there would only be a couple cops patrolling the area.

A half dozen gringos drew a few curious stares, while the occassional middle aged gringo squiring a paisita half his age might get a "tsk tsk" and a momentary glare.

Fast forward to today. Crowds of 2,000 revelers on a weekend, 38-45 cops. A hundred ISG members would get lost among the sea of backpackers, faux Rastafarians, and "Sandal-istas". The Sandalistas don't stay in the expensive hotels, eat in the expensive hotels, or pay to drink in the better bars. They also seem adverse to soap and water, but the cloud of marijuana smoke seems to either cover up the BO, or dull their own sense of smell.

Many locals bought there town homes 5-20 years ago when it was the old Parque Lleras: quiet, clean, trendy, posh, safe..

[Eszpresszo]

Back in 2009, the park was a sleepy plaza surrounded by high end restaurants catering to the top 5% of local society, and those who could afford a fancy Sunday family meal asa treat. A crowd might be 100, maybe 200, people, and there would only be a couple cops patrolling the area.

A half dozen gringos drew a few curious stares, while the occassional middle aged gringo squiring a paisita half his age might get a "tsk tsk" and a momentary glare.

Fast forward to today. Crowds of 2,000 revelers on a weekend, 38-45 cops. A hundred ISG members would get lost among the sea of backpackers, faux Rastafarians, and "Sandal-istas". The Sandalistas don't stay in the expensive hotels, eat in the expensive hotels, or pay to drink in the better bars. They also seem adverse to soap and water, but the cloud of marijuana smoke seems to either cover up the BO, or dull their own sense of smell. .I knew there was a reason I hated backpackers as far back as was old enough to be one of them (late 70's). But, I can't cry too much because during my visit to Medellin I never made it down to Poblado or Lleras Park. I was too busy scoping out working girls in Centro. And I can't say that I regret it. If people want to think everything outside of Poblado is "Centro" and dangerous, then let them do so. I was happy not seeing any other tourists, or hearing English. If they are too scared to get out of their enclave for hipsters and tourists, I will be happy with that. The erroneous perception of danger has always been beneficial to the savvy.

[Combo]

I knew there was a reason I hated backpackers as far back as was old enough to be one of them (late 70's). But, I can't cry too much because during my visit to Medellin I never made it down to Poblado or Lleras Park. I was too busy scoping out working girls in Centro. And I can't say that I regret it. If people want to think everything outside of Poblado is "Centro" and dangerous, then let them do so. I was happy not seeing any other tourists, or hearing English. If they are too scared to get out of their enclave for hipsters and tourists, I will be happy with that. The erroneous perception of danger has always been beneficial to the savvy.I wouldn't say the perception of danger in Centro is erroneous. It's not a particularly safe area, especially after dark. I hit Centro a couple times every visit, and my head is always on a swivel if it's after 7 PM. FWIW I speak Spanish and I've lived my whole life in a US City known for violent crime.

The erroneous perception might be that Parque Lleras is safe. Obvious Gringos staggering around drunk make easy targets.

[Surfer500]

I gave Jade Place a go. It very well located, just a few minutes easy walk from where I'm staying. Got there around lunch, was shown three girls. None were really what I normally look for. All three choices were dark and thick. Made a choice, had a really nice massage, that was the highlight. On the flip tried a few positions. But wasn't really into it so finished quick.Can you share a little bit more about this place? Is it a casa, massage place, both. How much did it cost and for how long. And what is the address and cross streets.

Thanks.

[Surfer500]

I knew there was a reason I hated backpackers as far back as was old enough to be one of them (late 70's). But, I can't cry too much because during my visit to Medellin I never made it down to Poblado or Lleras Park. I was too busy scoping out working girls in Centro. And I can't say that I regret it. If people want to think everything outside of Poblado is "Centro" and dangerous, then let them do so. I was happy not seeing any other tourists, or hearing English. If they are too scared to get out of their enclave for hipsters and tourists, I will be happy with that. The erroneous perception of danger has always been beneficial to the savvy.El Centro is a dangerous place for the obvious gringo (blond hair / blue eyes) especially after dark and is not user friendly for someone with no Spanish speaking skills. Most mongers stay away from El Centro which is fine with me as I am happy as well not seeing tourists or other obvious gringos there. There are lots of diamonds in the rough available there and is my favorite place to meet girls in Medellin.

[Lmarcone]

I tried Thai Spa. Its tucked away in a residential area and is clean and nice. The selection was kinda small. I lucked out and pulled a girl who was there on her first day. She did everything I asked. I totally enjoyed her. Its priced more like Energy but does not have the same talent. Its worth a try, but you may be out cab fare if you don't see something you like.I agree with your assessment. The place is very good- and "high end", for Medellin.

Where else can you actually get a "nuru massage"? Serious question. If there were cheaper options I would try them.

It's worth going if you are going for the "nuru"-thing. My 2 centavos.

[Black Page]

I wouldn't say the perception of danger in Centro is erroneous. It's not a particularly safe area, especially after dark. I hit Centro a couple times every visit, and my head is always on a swivel if it's after 7 PM. FWIW I speak Spanish and I've lived my whole life in a US City known for violent crime.
The erroneous perception might be that Parque Lleras is safe. Obvious Gringos staggering around drunk make easy targets.100% correct. Centro is dangerous indeed.

Of course, that is not a reason to stay away of it (eheh), if one is conscious of the risk, is always with antennas on and is somehow "street-smart". All this does not make danger negligible, just reduces it, but one may deliberately decide to take a risk in change of some experience one could not get elsewhere.

I am personally happy that most of the regular tourists, especially from USA, are scared or not able to go around there alone. This makes it still pristine and definitely enjoyable for me.

[Black Page]

I agree with your assessment. The place is very good- and "high end", for Medellin.
Where else can you actually get a "nuru massage"? Serious question. If there were cheaper options I would try them.
It's worth going if you are going for the "nuru"-thing. My 2 centavos.A "Thai Spa" with "nuru" massage in Colombia?? :eek: Ok, globalization is rampant, but there must be limits.

I remember once in Singapore I've seen a gym at ground floor with glass windows to let people from the street to see what's going on inside. There was a group of Chinese girls of all sizes and shapes, trying to dance some salsa or bachata under the guidance of a true Latin instructor (he looked Caraibic). His challenge was tough. I think that dancing bachata with a Chinese girl in Singapore is like trying to get a nuru massage in Colombia.

P.S.: I deliberately wrote " :eek: " knowing that here the smilies are disabled. But WHY the smilies must be disabled in the Colombia forums??

[Mr Enternational]

A "Thai Spa" with "nuru" massage in Colombia?? :eek: Ok, globalization is rampant, but there must be limits.I guess you just found a limit. I have lived in Thailand for 6 years. Out of the 1000 massage places in my city, I have yet to see one with nuru massage. I think that is actually a Japanese thing.

[Turgid]

I have heard that too, but it's bullshit. How do we know it's bullshit? Because the military wore blue and not green at the time of their little misadventures in Latin America. The word 'gringo' was well established before they ever wore green.Many years ago I was in company with a bevy of Colombian chicas and one playfully called another a gringa. This 'gringa' was a caucasian Colombian. I have always been made to understand that a gringo is firstly a foreigner and secondly a white man. I have watched hundreds of westerns and in none did a Mexican ever call a black man a gringo. It is understood.

[Rickyj]

Warning. I'm going to ramble but stick to what may interest you. I'm currently staying in Laureles. I've been reading this forum for years like way back when the mansion was a penthouse in Poblado. I was present for the Medellin incident way back with the Pereira girls. I haven't been there since the pool was painted with the futbol logo. I stay at both club campestres for golf and tennis. For the cool guys that don't know there is a great club campestre in llano grande and lots of action for non pros abound there. I play at country club el rodeo too. I'm in Laureles for another night because I do a certain other sport in el estadio.

This is probably my 30th trip here and I have so much tang now. I've got access to the Colombian version of mamba and today I had a 19 year old stewardess in training knocking on my door with her uniform on and had her naked 2 hours later after a nice dinner. I guess there is a school for this and it must be a scam because she said shell have to learn English to get a good job or even a job. She can't speak a lick.

Since arriving I have romanced and abused four girls that are no worse than an 8 and all are Caucasian and racist..Got to Go. I have to ask. Was the stewardess Laura / Fernanda? Just curious.

[CincyVirgo]

Can you share a little bit more about this place? Is it a casa, massage place, both. How much did it cost and for how long. And what is the address and cross streets.

Thanks.It really comes off more of a massage place. It's on the same block as Mondongos, directly above a pharmacy on that main street. After being buzzed in, I was told a few options. And that the 150,000 would include everything. They had me sit for a few minute, the girls got ready. Then I was shown three massage rooms, each with a girl inside wearing a formal massage uniform. Then I picked the girl I wanted, and paid. The massage really was great, it got some knots out for sure. After a long massage came the CBJ and more. After all was done she asked for 5000 extra for the condom. I think the have a website with videos. You can see the interior and the massage tables. Way way different vibe than excite by the stadium Where you get shown girls in sexy outfits, and you massage is them getting all slippery on your back. The girls there looked great, at Jade and the time of day I was there they were not very attractive.

[Knowledge]

I was about to dispute this but then I thought for a moment about how many gringos I run into in Centro - - very very few. Fewer now than say five years ago. Judging from what I read on ISG the gringo experience is all about the special interest hotel in Poblado.


El Centro is a dangerous place for the obvious gringo (blond hair / blue eyes) especially after dark and is not user friendly for someone with no Spanish speaking skills. Most mongers stay away from El Centro which is fine with me as I am happy as well not seeing tourists or other obvious gringos there. There are lots of diamonds in the rough available there and is my favorite place to meet girls in Medellin.

[Knowledge]

Don't take this the wrong way but westerns are not a valid reference for real life. After all, most of the native Americans and Mexicans are portrayed by Caucasian actors.


Many years ago I was in company with a bevy of Colombian chicas and one playfully called another a gringa. This 'gringa' was a caucasian Colombian. I have always been made to understand that a gringo is firstly a foreigner and secondly a white man. I have watched hundreds of westerns and in none did a Mexican ever call a black man a gringo. It is understood.

[World Jockey]

I would say generally most women are racist until they find out that you are are not broke.

Ask little Wayne and Aziz.

(I was tempted to Use Tiger Woods as an example, but felt that would be too easy)

I'm sure I've seen something along the lines of "Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" around here somewhere...Although those women may have been attracted to dark men all along. However having money, power, fame. Will totally open up more legs than being without.


Nearly everything is shut down on Christmas, New years holidays, semana santa, and election day.
I personally have never been during this time, but anecdotally I understand it to be a not so great time to be mongering. People are with there family and friends during the holidays. I would look to book your trip pre or post holiday season to get the best potential lineups.Gracias fellas. I guess a NYE trip is out unless I have a regular girl to hang with.

[Surfer500]

I was about to dispute this but then I thought for a moment about how many gringos I run into in Centro - - very very few. Fewer now than say five years ago. Judging from what I read on ISG the gringo experience is all about the special interest hotel in Poblado.I have observed an increase in gringos over the past five years as evidenced by what the girls have been telling me and my observations of large tour groups in the area which were pretty much didn't exist five years ago. I have also noticed more mongers in town as well especially around the Museum / Church / Botero Plaza area. I know this I have spent a lot of time there. You should enjoy this place as much as you can now as this place will change and I believe rapidly. As an example I was in Seoul South Korea three days ago and was rejected by places and a place that was charging approximately $ 200 US for the locals said they would accept me but it would cost $ 250 US. For this type of money I can easily get twenty sessions in El Centro. Things evolve and right now El Centro in Medellin is tough to beat anywhere in the world. I'm in the Philippines right now and Medellin is still cheaper and much more desirable at least for me.

[Iguana Six]

I was with you all the way until you suggested residents would sell at a loss to someone who turns the property into a bar or hotel. That doesn't add up. It's absolutely true the volume of revelers has seen explosive growth. That is why I have a hard time understanding how a property owner could lose money on a sale.

Agree 100% with your octopus analogy. See Provenza for proof positive. As for hostility toward May-December commercial couples, I think people who can't abide it avoid the area. It's a question of degrees really. There are certain pairings that even a low life like me would give a second look. But those are extreme tits out pros parading with cargo shorts and varicose vein loudmouths. Maybe it says more about me than it does about the punter / paisa pairs.You make a great point. The owners are probably not selling at a loss. The developers can offer them more than the homeowners paid for their homes. There may even be bidding wars for prime locations, or adjacent properties that can be the platform for more complex ventures.

As for "sore thumb" pairings, two nights ago, I was in a little Italian restuarant when in walked in a very grizzled 70-something dude, poorly dressed, and seemingly suffering from dementia along with his very "pro" looking 20 something Costenia companion. She had a hard time keeping him at the table...he wandered off and starting annoying a party of five at one of the sidewalk tables. The next day, I saw him at the park, still unkempt, wandering around aimlessly, either drunk or suffering from Alzheimers. One guy at the table next to us said, "That's you in 30 years." His friend said, "If I get that way, please put me out of my misery."

I was reminded of the posters for the movie, "The Wild Bunch:" "They came too late, and they stayed too long. Out of luck, and running out of time."

[Turgid]

You make a great point. The owners are probably not selling at a loss. The developers can offer them more than the homeowners paid for their homes. There may even be bidding wars for prime locations, or adjacent properties that can be the platform for more complex ventures.

As for "sore thumb" pairings, two nights ago, I was in a little Italian restuarant when in walked in a very grizzled 70-something dude, poorly dressed, and seemingly suffering from dementia along with his very "pro" looking 20 something Costenia companion. She had a hard time keeping him at the table...he wandered off and starting annoying a party of five at one of the sidewalk tables. The next day, I saw him at the park, still unkempt, wandering around aimlessly, either drunk or suffering from Alzheimers. One guy at the table next to us said, "That's you in 30 years." His friend said, "If I get that way, please put me out of my misery."

I was reminded of the posters for the movie, "The Wild Bunch:" "They came too late, and they stayed too long. Out of luck, and running out of time."Good reference "The Wild Bunch" which I saw over four decades ago. Will never forget the scene of those ageing gringos with the young Mexican hookers. Never too late for fun.

[Charm City Dave]

As for "sore thumb" pairings, two nights ago, I was in a little Italian restuarant when in walked in a very grizzled 70-something dude, poorly dressed, and seemingly suffering from dementia along with his very "pro" looking 20 something Costenia companion. She had a hard time keeping him at the table...he wandered off and starting annoying a party of five at one of the sidewalk tables. The next day, I saw him at the park, still unkempt, wandering around aimlessly, either drunk or suffering from Alzheimers. One guy at the table next to us said, "That's you in 30 years." His friend said, "If I get that way, please put me out of my misery."Well I started in this hobby 20 years ago when I was in my 30's in the DR, CR and Brazil. When I was in my 30's, I looked like I was in my 20's and raised no eyes hanging with my 20 something rent-a-honeys. I felt the same way about 'the old farts' running around with the young talent. Well I'm in my 50's now and probably look it. Perhaps not as 'grizzled' as that guy, I wear pants and try to keep a low profile when I go out with a chica at night, but still I ain't fooling anyone. I suspect in 15 or 20 years I may give that grizzled guy a run for his money, and so my friend most likely will you.

[CincyVirgo]

Visited Thai Spa on Saturday. It's a nondescript building, directions on Google maps is correct. They have private security who will wand you upon entering. Tip top place, front desk spoke great English. Chose a lovely 18 yo named Paulina. Great massage, good sense of humor. Everything I wanted. 160. I'll be back soon.

[The Tall Man]

Well I started in this hobby 20 years ago when I was in my 30's in the DR, CR and Brazil. When I was in my 30's, I looked like I was in my 20's and raised no eyes hanging with my 20 something rent-a-honeys. I felt the same way about 'the old farts' running around with the young talent. Well I'm in my 50's now and probably look it. Perhaps not as 'grizzled' as that guy, I wear pants and try to keep a low profile when I go out with a chica at night, but still I ain't fooling anyone. I suspect in 15 or 20 years I may give that grizzled guy a run for his money, and so my friend most likely will you.The older I get and this phrase speaks a lot of truth, which is "Women see a different you than the person that you see in the mirror each day looking back at you". If you don't understand this yet your not into your 40's or 50's or 60's yet, just wait and you will understand.

I ditto Charm City Dave, although I was a decade older than you when I started but now over 20 years later I become to look like the 50 year old that I saw over 20 years ago buying pussy and never for a moment thinking that one day I would become that person.

Very sobering but true yet we all keep chasing that beautiful pussy!

Have fun and stay safe!

TTM.

[EstebanH]

The older I get and this phrase speaks a lot of truth, which is "Women see a different you than the person that you see in the mirror each day looking back at you". If you don't understand this yet your not into your 40's or 50's or 60's yet, just wait and you will understand.

I ditto Charm City Dave, although I was a decade older than you when I started but now over 20 years later I become to look like the 50 year old that I saw over 20 years ago buying pussy and never for a moment thinking that one day I would become that person.

Very sobering but true yet we all keep chasing that beautiful pussy!

Have fun and stay safe!

TTM.My father is 89 and has a 40 something taking care of him. Of course, she is after his money, but he still squires around with a woman half his age and loves it.

[Iguana Six]

Good reference "The Wild Bunch" which I saw over four decades ago. Will never forget the scene of those ageing gringos with the young Mexican hookers. Never too late for fun.So which one are you the most like? Lyle or Tector? Pike or Dutch or Deke? I identify most with Dutch.

I loved the way the brothers, Lyle and Tector, misunderstood their chica telling them Doce (12) por dos to mean dos por dos.

Or did you mean the wine vat hot tub scene earlier in the movie?

I think this movie and from here to eternity both watched in a freshman year film class set my framework for understanding the hobby years later.

[Hasideas Tao]

Way way different vibe than excite by the stadium Where you get shown girls in sexy outfits, and you massage is them getting all slippery on your back.Excite? Do you mean Energy? Or are you talking about another place?

[CincyVirgo]

Excite? Do you mean Energy? Or are you talking about another place?Sorry I meant to say Energy. The one by Estadio metro station.

[CincyVirgo]

Stopped by Jade Palace on Sunday to give them another chance. They were open! Asked for hour, this time the three girls were all in one room. My options were better than last time. Still not nearly as good as Thai Spa or Energy. But I got a good massage, and the girl was performed well, and looked decent enough. 150 k.

[CincyVirgo]

One more visit to Thai Spa. I love how easy it is to Uber there. The front desk guy is friendly and speaks good English. They even have WiFi! Anyway, I'm a beginner for Medellin. So currently this is my favorite place until I get more experience. I love the look of the girls here, skinny and fit. Long hair, I picked one with dyed blonde hair, and a few tattoos. Got to the room, shower, and she started with the massage. After a few minutes I just couldn't wait and took her. It was great. Pillow talked the rest of the hour.

[Turgid]

So which one are you the most like? Lyle or Tector? Pike or Dutch or Deke? I identify most with Dutch.

I loved the way the brothers, Lyle and Tector, misunderstood their chica telling them Doce (12) por dos to mean dos por dos.

Or did you mean the wine vat hot tub scene earlier in the movie?

I think this movie and from here to eternity both watched in a freshman year film class set my framework for understanding the hobby years later.I will have to watch the movie again to say which one I identify with. I saw this movie with my buddies when I was in High School. I remember only one scene with the old gringos and the Mexican "chiquitas", I remember bathing so it must be the hot tub scene to which you refer. There was some female nudity which excited me very much as a teenager. Who knows what sublimal messages stick in the mind. Tijuana was my first foray internationally in pursuing our hobby, way back in the early 70's. I must watch this movie again.

[LifeIsABeach]

As for "sore thumb" pairings, two nights ago, I was in a little Italian restuarant when in walked in a very grizzled 70-something dude, poorly dressed, and seemingly suffering from dementia along with his very "pro" looking 20 something Costenia companion. She had a hard time keeping him at the table...he wandered off and starting annoying a party of five at one of the sidewalk tables. One guy at the table next to us said, "That's you in 30 years." His friend said, "If I get that way, please put me out of my misery".I think 70 something is a bit too early for someone to be in this state. I do not drink much and exercise. Will turn 66 next month and people at work think I am taking early retirement. Anyway, every dog has his day and when my time comes when I feel that I am nuisance to society, I'll buy a one way ticket to Oregon where they have death with dignity law and the couple of tablets will do the trick after a party with family and friends. California also now has the law too. If I get into 80's, I'll be happy but I have lived my life even now.

[Turgid]

I think 70 something is a bit too early for someone to be in this state. I do not drink much and exercise. Will turn 66 next month and people at work think I am taking early retirement. Anyway, every dog has his day and when my time comes when I feel that I am nuisance to society, I'll buy a one way ticket to Oregon where they have death with dignity law and the couple of tablets will do the trick after a party with family and friends. California also now has the law too. If I get into 80's, I'll be happy but I have lived my life even now.Bro, it will never happen. When you reach your 80's and people think you are a nuisance you will not think you are.

[Playboy2000]

I am planning a trip to Medellin, and would like to get advice about finding young, beautiful girls (9-10's at age 18-25). I'm not too price sensitive. I read the forums and didn't see much on this topic. I'm open to incall, MPs, and strip clubs. I also like hanging out at strip clubs. Can someone recommend the best MP and best strip clubs?

[Barkey]

I am planning a trip to Medellin, and would like to get advice about finding young, beautiful girls (9-10's at age 18-25). I'm not too price sensitive. I read the forums and didn't see much on this topic. I'm open to incall, MPs, and strip clubs. I also like hanging out at strip clubs. Can someone recommend the best MP and best strip clubs?Interesting.

I too will be making my first trip to Medellin later this month. In preparation, I've taken the time to read the forum posts and I have found so much information I don't know where to start. You just have to get past the many recent smart-a $$ posts about who is the coolest dude, who can pay the least, etc. to find what you need.

I'm sure that just like other mongering destinations you can find some really fugly expensive chicas and some really hot ones that are a true bargain. I note that your previous posts mostly talk about China / Asia. Colombian women are going to be a lot different so what might be a 9-10 for us Latina lovers may not be the same for you. Nothing against Asian women, not at all! Just a general physical difference.

If you really like to spend your money try looking at escortsmedellin.com (I think I have that right). I know at least one of the girls on there from a previous experience outside of Colombia. Very HOT. To me, they mostly all look good but, by Colombian standards, seem quite expensive.

As for me I am just going to go and enjoy the adventure.

And, oh by the way, if someone might see some super cute Paisa clinging to some old gringo fart twice her age don't laugh. It might be me.

Barkey.

[Husker Dude]

I am planning a trip to Medellin, and would like to get advice about finding young, beautiful girls (9-10's at age 18-25). I'm not too price sensitive. I read the forums and didn't see much on this topic. I'm open to incall, MPs, and strip clubs. I also like hanging out at strip clubs. Can someone recommend the best MP and best strip clubs?Last recent trips to MDE, Fase Dos had better talent than The girls (LaIsla). One of the guys took a girl to a room next door & it was 180 K.

[JustTK]

Hi chicos.

Just a quickquestion for the MDE experienced bunch. Do any of you use social apps successfully to met girls in MDE? I am familiar with Tinder. Is it popular there or are there any other more popular apps to use in Colombia?

Or is Facebook still the way to hook up with freelancers?

Thanks so much.

[Black Page]

Hi chicos.
Just a quickquestion for the MDE experienced bunch. Do any of you use social apps successfully to met girls in MDE? I am familiar with Tinder. Is it popular there or are there any other more popular apps to use in Colombia?
Or is Facebook still the way to hook up with freelancers?
Thanks so much.Going to a club and eye-contact no?

All selfie pix do look the same. I can't understand how one could invest time and money on someone who most likely looks another person vs. the photos online... :confused:

[JustTK]

Hi Black page.

Not really the answer I was looking for, as you didn't volunteer any social mobile apps. . :)

However, since you changed the subject. Why use social apps? Well, for myself, I am looking for a very particular and obvious physical charateristic, which will eliminate most of the chicas on mobile apps. So it will be helpful for me. Also on Facebook (and mobile apps), you can chat with the chicas before making a commitment. Also the reach is far greater. I can get in contact with girls that live in other barrios. And with Facebook, you ca brows many photos of a chica to get a good impression. So overall, I think there are several advantages.

As for clubs. Which clubs do you recommend for picking up in MDE?

Thanks.


Going to a club and eye-contact no?

All selfie pix do look the same. I can't understand how one could invest time and money on someone who most likely looks another person vs. the photos online... :confused:

[Advantageous]

100% correct. Centro is dangerous indeed.

Of course, that is not a reason to stay away of it (eheh), if one is conscious of the risk, is always with antennas on and is somehow "street-smart". All this does not make danger negligible, just reduces it, but one may deliberately decide to take a risk in change of some experience one could not get elsewhere.

I am personally happy that most of the regular tourists, especially from USA, are scared or not able to go around there alone. This makes it still pristine and definitely enjoyable for me.I may have already gone on-record saying this, but Centro isn't especially moreso dangerous than being in the Downtown area of any other major urban center at night. If you don't hear my voice I don't especially standout in casual clothes from most Afro-Colombians my age, but I've walked through El Centro after 1 with a very gringo-looking gringo of Caucasian descent and had no problems. Just stick to main streets and -- actually, I just had a mental image of Ejecutiva packed with tourists as I struggle to get a bottle brought over. On second thought, everything in Centro will kill you after 11 pm, so stay far away.

[Advantageous]

Hi chicos.

Just a quickquestion for the MDE experienced bunch. Do any of you use social apps successfully to met girls in MDE? I am familiar with Tinder. Is it popular there or are there any other more popular apps to use in Colombia?

Or is Facebook still the way to hook up with freelancers?

Thanks so much.How good is your Spanish? Tinder is doable but can be time-consuming if you don't spend a couple days beforehand with your location set to MDE, generating that first crop of girls that'll be able to see your picture and reply thusly. I've heard of people having luck with Tagged and Facebook here, but your best bet of getting what you want is face-to-face, so you're better off hitting clubs and strips better-known for prepagos.

[Black Page]

I may have already gone on-record saying this, but Centro isn't especially moreso dangerous than being in the Downtown area of any other major urban center at night. If you don't hear my voice I don't especially standout in casual clothes from most Afro-Colombians my age, but I've walked through El Centro after 1 with a very gringo-looking gringo of Caucasian descent and had no problems. Just stick to main streets and -- actually, I just had a mental image of Ejecutiva packed with tourists as I struggle to get a bottle brought over. On second thought, everything in Centro will kill you after 11 pm, so stay far away.You are talking to someone who roamed around walking alone the Centro after midnight and even 2 am several times. Because I did that, I warn everyone to NOT go there if not extremely cautious and knowing what's the level of danger. Enough said!

[Hasideas Tao]

I am planning a trip to Medellin, and would like to get advice about finding young, beautiful girls (9-10's at age 18-25). I'm not too price sensitive. I read the forums and didn't see much on this topic. I'm open to incall, MPs, and strip clubs. I also like hanging out at strip clubs. Can someone recommend the best MP and best strip clubs?Clear out your inbox. Yes, we can talk about it all day. Sounds logical to just go to the most expensive spots but there are places to find super hot stunners in less jaded atmospheres. All depends on how much time you have, your level of Spanish and the type of atmosphere you prefer.

[JustTK]

Thanks Advantageous. I'll give Tagged a shot.

My Spanish is high basic / low intermediate, but is improving all the time. I have got 6 weeks there with a view to establishing a second home, so I have some time on my side, and will be looking for a regular girl too. I think I am still in good shape and look reasonably well preserved, though I don't think time is on my side on that one. .:)


How good is your Spanish? Tinder is doable but can be time-consuming if you don't spend a couple days beforehand with your location set to MDE, generating that first crop of girls that'll be able to see your picture and reply thusly. I've heard of people having luck with Tagged and Facebook here, but your best bet of getting what you want is face-to-face, so you're better off hitting clubs and strips better-known for prepagos.

[JustTK]

I have time. Tell me about them please. :) . .:)


...there are places to find super hot stunners in less jaded atmospheres. All depends on how much time you have, your level of Spanish and the type of atmosphere you prefer.

[Advantageous]

Last recent trips to MDE, Fase Dos had better talent than The girls (LaIsla). One of the guys took a girl to a room next door & it was 180 K.Maybe it's just bad luck, but I've yet to go to La Isla on a night where the girls impressed me more than the view. After 11:30 p or so Fase Dos is smoking from all the hot pieces of ass trotting around, and every time I've hit La Isla at midnight I've been underwhelmed. I've met one or two guys that swear by it though, so I'll probably give it a few more shots.

[EstebanH]

How good is your Spanish? Tinder is doable but can be time-consuming if you don't spend a couple days beforehand with your location set to MDE, generating that first crop of girls that'll be able to see your picture and reply thusly. I've heard of people having luck with Tagged and Facebook here, but your best bet of getting what you want is face-to-face, so you're better off hitting clubs and strips better-known for prepagos.If you like the independents, Facebook is the way to go. I have over 400 Facebook chica "friends" in Medellin. LOL.

[Zorro]

Hey guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin early December. Where is the best place to stay at and meet follow mongers at? Are there any social places where I can meet and get with someone besides the houses "casas" such as the Del Rey or the Sportsman like in CR. I was trying to get a reservation at Hotel M from previous posts I read and heard its a good place for a 1st timers. I am trying to make reservation but they are asking where I heard about them and do not want to mention this site or others that I visit. Was going to give some BS like Expedia but couldn't find them LOL. Anyways are there any other places that are preferred where there are women at? I do know some Spanish to carry a basic conversation and understand a little better? Any info would help greatly.

Thanks in advance.

[Charm City Dave]

One to welcome you to this forum with the often used and always deserved welcome RTFF. Lodging is on other forums further down the Colombia page. Unfortunately this forum has a lot of extraneous discussion and personal comments, but all the information you ask for is here. You can tell them at Hotel M that you heard about them here, they know most of their clientele has. Once you have down that if you have specific questions and post them here, someone will likely answer them.


Hey guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin early December. Where is the best place to stay at and meet follow mongers at? Are there any social places where I can meet and get with someone besides the houses "casas" such as the Del Rey or the Sportsman like in CR. I was trying to get a reservation at Hotel M from previous posts I read and heard its a good place for a 1st timers. I am trying to make reservation but they are asking where I heard about them and do not want to mention this site or others that I visit. Was going to give some BS like Expedia but couldn't find them LOL. Anyways are there any other places that are preferred where there are women at? I do know some Spanish to carry a basic conversation and understand a little better? Any info would help greatly.

Thanks in advance.

[Zhagolo52]

I hate to break it to you but December is a bad time to go down, sorry man. Most of the girls are going to be with family for the holidays. About 2-3 weeks total. There still be girls at the mansion but not as much as usual. Trust me I have been down there in December.


Hey guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin early December. Where is the best place to stay at and meet follow mongers at? Are there any social places where I can meet and get with someone besides the houses "casas" such as the Del Rey or the Sportsman like in CR. I was trying to get a reservation at Hotel M from previous posts I read and heard its a good place for a 1st timers. I am trying to make reservation but they are asking where I heard about them and do not want to mention this site or others that I visit. Was going to give some BS like Expedia but couldn't find them LOL. Anyways are there any other places that are preferred where there are women at? I do know some Spanish to carry a basic conversation and understand a little better? Any info would help greatly.

Thanks in advance..

[EstebanH]

Hey guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin early December. Where is the best place to stay at and meet follow mongers at? Are there any social places where I can meet and get with someone besides the houses "casas" such as the Del Rey or the Sportsman like in CR. I was trying to get a reservation at Hotel M from previous posts I read and heard its a good place for a 1st timers. I am trying to make reservation but they are asking where I heard about them and do not want to mention this site or others that I visit. Was going to give some BS like Expedia but couldn't find them LOL. Anyways are there any other places that are preferred where there are women at? I do know some Spanish to carry a basic conversation and understand a little better? Any info would help greatly.

Thanks in advance.Stay at the Mansion first time. It will save you a lot of time and troubles. They bring in girls or you can go out to the casas.

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

[Sun Devil]

Had an older lady at Abydos with the name of Luciana. Provided some deep French kissing. When I couldn't come, she took off the condom and provided some oral skills until I came in her mouth. Tipped her 20 k for this, about 6 dollars with current exchange rate.

[ElJefe7010]

I hate to break it to you but December is a bad time to go down, sorry man. Most of the girls are going to be with family for the holidays. About 2-3 weeks total. There still be girls at the mansion but not as much as usual. Trust me I have been down there in December..This is incorrect. The weeks in early December leading up to the holidays is the best, the holidays are the very reason girls are looking to make extra cash in the weeks before. Pool gets very big since semi-pros are also in full force. Once few days before Christmas, all is said and done, and girls have made their money, then go to be with their families thought New Year's day.

[Surfer500]

So does anyone on this forum have experience with Tinder in Medellin.

Are there lots of prepagos looking for guys on Tinder in Medellin.

Any feedback would be helpful as I want to try something different besides roaming the streets of El Centro looking for women on my next trip in November.

Thanks in advance!

[Arcangel]

I'm in Medellin now, trying Tinder. I wouldn't recommend it for trying to find prepagos. There sure are a few on there, but it would seem a very inefficient way of contacting them. They would have to sweep a lot until they find you and you until you find them.

There are tons of regular girls on Tinder, and my paisa buddy got some dates off it. But you'd need a good photo to get noticed, and then some text game to get a date.

For finding prepagos online, mileroticos. Co is a much more direct way, though I haven't tried it.

The correct address is http://co.mileroticos.com/.

"Anuncios eróticos profesionales Gratis Colombia".


So does anyone on this forum have experience with Tinder in Medellin.

Are there lots of prepagos looking for guys on Tinder in Medellin.

Any feedback would be helpful as I want to try something different besides roaming the streets of El Centro looking for women on my next trip in November.

Thanks in advance!

[Combo]

This is incorrect. The weeks in early December leading up to the holidays is the best, the holidays are the very reason girls are looking to make extra cash in the weeks before. Pool gets very big since semi-pros are also in full force. Once few days before Christmas, all is said and done, and girls have made their money, then go to be with their families thought New Year's day.I agree with this. In fact this dynamic holds in any country in the World where Christmas is celebrated. So obviously, anywhere in Latin America (even Cuba nowadays).

[Zorro]

Thanks to everyone for the information. I have been looking to come down to Colombia for quite some time. I cannot wait to jump in the action. I had been reading the past few pages to try acquaint myself to see where to go. I have been trying to meet some contacts ahead of the trip through colombiancupid as I have read on here and trying to see about facebook contacts that some have mentioned.

[TellAll]

So does anyone on this forum have experience with Tinder in Medellin.

Are there lots of prepagos looking for guys on Tinder in Medellin.

Any feedback would be helpful as I want to try something different besides roaming the streets of El Centro looking for women on my next trip in November.

Thanks in advance!Google Tinder Medellin.

[KingAmongKings]

Highly recommend Tinder! Found my best girls through there. I would say about 20% are prepagos. One piece of advice would be to not ask if they are and let them tell you as you can ruin a free hook up like that as I did way too much there. Have fun!

King


So does anyone on this forum have experience with Tinder in Medellin.

Are there lots of prepagos looking for guys on Tinder in Medellin.

Any feedback would be helpful as I want to try something different besides roaming the streets of El Centro looking for women on my next trip in November.

Thanks in advance!

[Advantageous]

This is incorrect. The weeks in early December leading up to the holidays is the best, the holidays are the very reason girls are looking to make extra cash in the weeks before. Pool gets very big since semi-pros are also in full force. Once few days before Christmas, all is said and done, and girls have made their money, then go to be with their families thought New Year's day.+1 to this sentiment -- I was down there at the end of last year (and will probably be there the first weekend of this December) and it's almost distressingly easy to find something you like at any given time of day. While I'm not in the camp of "go to the Mansion on your first visit", I don't think it'd be a detriment to your trip if you can get the booking. I prefer staying closer to Parque Lleras and the Mansion gives me the same vibe as Field of Dreams in the DR, but that only works because of how far out it is and how undeveloped the Sosua / PP scene is compared to a lot of the region. There's practically no chance of not finding a girl you want to fuck in MDE if you're hitting the places on the monger map that you see pop up most in this thread, so for me a lot of the impetus of staying at that kinda place is removed, but YMMV. Having said that, I always run into Mansion visitors in the waiting area at New Life and (to a lesser extent) Energy, so you can certainly do both.

[Surfer500]

I'm in Medellin now, trying Tinder. I wouldn't recommend it for trying to find prepagos. There sure are a few on there, but it would seem a very inefficient way of contacting them. They would have to sweep a lot until they find you and you until you find them.

There are tons of regular girls on Tinder, and my paisa buddy got some dates off it. But you'd need a good photo to get noticed, and then some text game to get a date.

For finding prepagos online, mileroticos. Co is a much more direct way, though I haven't tried it.

The correct address is http://co.mileroticos.com/.

"Anuncios erticos profesionales Gratis Colombia".Thanks for the information I actually will be looking for some regular girls this time and think my Spanish skills are sufficient enough but will find out soon enough.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hey guys,

I am planning to visit Medellin early December. Where is the best place to stay at and meet follow mongers at? Are there any social places where I can meet and get with someone besides the houses "casas" such as the Del Rey or the Sportsman like in CR. I was trying to get a reservation at Hotel M from previous posts I read and heard its a good place for a 1st timers. I am trying to make reservation but they are asking where I heard about them and do not want to mention this site or others that I visit. Was going to give some BS like Expedia but couldn't find them LOL. Anyways are there any other places that are preferred where there are women at? I do know some Spanish to carry a basic conversation and understand a little better? Any info would help greatly.

Thanks in advance.


Thanks to everyone for the information. I have been looking to come down to Colombia for quite some time. I cannot wait to jump in the action. I had been reading the past few pages to try acquaint myself to see where to go. I have been trying to meet some contacts ahead of the trip through colombiancupid as I have read on here and trying to see about facebook contacts that some have mentioned.Hi Zorro!

I too plan on visiting Medellin for the first time, in May.

ID also like to stay at the M. Were you able to get yiur reservation by mentioning you heard about them through ISG?

[Barkey]

Hi Zorro!

I too plan on visiting Medellin for the first time, in May.

ID also like to stay at the M. Were you able to get yiur reservation by mentioning you heard about them through ISG?There shouldn't be a problem. I too am making my first trip to Colombia in a few days. The first couple of nights will be in Medellin and for simplicity I figured I would try to book at the Mansion. I presume I answered ISG on the "how did you hear about us" question on the reservation form.

Perhaps it even helped. Don't know.

I had lots of rookie questions and Alexa and Carlos were very helpful in answering my questions and with the reservation process in general. I was only able to book a room in M-2 when I first made my reservation a couple of months ago. I had read about the nasty walk up the hill and for that reason I would have preferred to be in M-1. A couple of weeks ago thought I would give it a shot and see if there were any cancellations in M-1 for the dates I would be there. To my surprise I was told yes and they had no problem with me making the change.

So far, so good. I will report on my trip soon.

Barkey.

[Richmond72]

I think some guys are overthinking it a bit. The reason the Mansion is asking you where you heard about them is because they don't want any clueless non-mongering people to book there and then get freaked out when they see the working girls and cause a scene. They're not looking for some super secret password or something. Just say you heard about them on ISG or another forum. Or maybe you know some guys who have stayed there before.

[RedTibetan23]

I'm making my third trip to Medellin in Mid-October. First two, I split between the Mansion and private apartments. This time around, I planned specifically around being able to get into M1, as I found on my last trip that during the day there were some girls hanging around the pool area who attended school at night (and thus you wouldn't see them at the bar in the evening). Staying at M2 would create a major inconvenience as far as I am concerned because I like the spontaneity aspect, plus I like hanging out with the guys.


There shouldn't be a problem. I too am making my first trip to Colombia in a few days. The first couple of nights will be in Medellin and for simplicity I figured I would try to book at the Mansion. I presume I answered ISG on the "how did you hear about us" question on the reservation form.

Perhaps it even helped. Don't know.

I had lots of rookie questions and Alexa and Carlos were very helpful in answering my questions and with the reservation process in general. I was only able to book a room in M-2 when I first made my reservation a couple of months ago. I had read about the nasty walk up the hill and for that reason I would have preferred to be in M-1. A couple of weeks ago thought I would give it a shot and see if there were any cancellations in M-1 for the dates I would be there. To my surprise I was told yes and they had no problem with me making the change.

So far, so good. I will report on my trip soon.

Barkey.

[Zorro]

Hi Zorro!

I too plan on visiting Medellin for the first time, in May.

ID also like to stay at the M. Were you able to get yiur reservation by mentioning you heard about them through ISG?Yes I was. Alexa booked me for the m1 house. I just thought was very awkward to be very specific where I heard about them. I am just ready to have some fun over there.

[Uncle Volodya]

There shouldn't be a problem. I too am making my first trip to Colombia in a few days. The first couple of nights will be in Medellin and for simplicity I figured I would try to book at the Mansion. I presume I answered ISG on the "how did you hear about us" question on the reservation form.

Perhaps it even helped. Don't know.

I had lots of rookie questions and Alexa and Carlos were very helpful in answering my questions and with the reservation process in general. I was only able to book a room in M-2 when I first made my reservation a couple of months ago. I had read about the nasty walk up the hill and for that reason I would have preferred to be in M-1. A couple of weeks ago thought I would give it a shot and see if there were any cancellations in M-1 for the dates I would be there. To my surprise I was told yes and they had no problem with me making the change.

So far, so good. I will report on my trip soon.

Barkey.Thanks Barkey and Richmond!

I don't mind a little walking but I think it could get a bit cumbersome with a girls in tow I will try to book in M1. I have a few months before my trip (May). But I know my dates which are set with vacation time form work. Do you guys think I should I book now? Is there any penalty for cancellation?

Barkey, you must be excited about your upcoming trip! I wish you the best of luck and hoep you have a great time. And I hope you will post your experiences.

[Judd]

Hola Dudes,

I will be in MDE in a little over a week. I'd like to schedule an appointment to get my teeth cleaned. Can anyone recommend a Dental Hygienist? Contact info would be helpful.

Thanks,

Judd.

[Barkey]

Thanks Barkey and Richmond!

I don't mind a little walking but I think it could get a bit cumbersome with a girls in tow I will try to book in M1. I have a few months before my trip (May). But I know my dates which are set with vacation time form work. Do you guys think I should I book now? Is there any penalty for cancellation?

Barkey, you must be excited about your upcoming trip! I wish you the best of luck and hoep you have a great time. And I hope you will post your experiences.Uncle V.

Only from what I've read here the hike up to M-2 sounded intimidating. Since I am no spring chicken I hoped for M-1...to at least save the heart attack for the room and not on the way to the room. Alexa from the hotel said it is not uncommon to take a taxi to M-2. For me, compared to walking up the hill late at night this seemed to be a good option. The ability to easily check on the chica availability was also a plus.

As for the girls, even if the walk is only half as bad as some people say, I couldn't imaging walking in "those" shoes! Let alone after a few (too many) drinks.

I booked about 2 months in advance. At that time they said that M-1 was booked for the dates I wanted. A weekend. They did have plenty of M-2 rooms available. I was happy to hear, when I checked back a couple of weeks ago, that they now had one room open at M-1. I was all over that. Again, from what I read here, the place can be quite busy especially on some (US) holiday weeks so if you know your itinerary in advance it would be best book as soon as possible to get the room of your choice. My CC was charged for one nights' stay and I assume it would not be refundable if cancelled at the last minute.

I'm just staying my first two nights in Medellin at the Mansion and then off to Santa Marta for for four nights and then return to MDE for a few more nights. I'll do a regular hotel then. As I write this my amiga is (supposedly) in the travel agency booking her flight to meet me. The whatsapp beep is going off every 30 seconds as we try to get the dates right. Talking sand to the beach. I know but I also know that I'm going to have a damn good time.

Thanks for the good wishes and I enjoy your Thailand reports. Maybe next year. If I can pry myself away from the Colombianas!

Barkey.

[Combo]

Thanks Barkey and Richmond!

I don't mind a little walking but I think it could get a bit cumbersome with a girls in tow I will try to book in M1. I have a few months before my trip (May). But I know my dates which are set with vacation time form work. Do you guys think I should I book now? Is there any penalty for cancellation?

Barkey, you must be excited about your upcoming trip! I wish you the best of luck and hoep you have a great time. And I hope you will post your experiences.A taxi up the hill is a couple dollars at most. No big deal at all. The girls know the drill and a taxi will pick you up in a matter of minutes.

As far as cancellation, they won't likely give you your deposit back (that's what a deposit is for -- to protect them in case you cancel and the room is left vacant). What they will do is just apply it to your next visit, which IMO is more than fair.

While I agree that being in M1 is nice for the spontaneity it gives you, don't let being in M2 stop you from going. It works fine for lots of guys and in fact there are some things that are better about it. You'll have a good time either way.

[Husker Dude]

A taxi up the hill is a couple dollars at most. No big deal at all. The girls know the drill and a taxi will pick you up in a matter of minutes.

As far as cancellation, they won't likely give you your deposit back (that's what a deposit is for -- to protect them in case you cancel and the room is left vacant). What they will do is just apply it to your next visit, which IMO is more than fair.

While I agree that being in M1 is nice for the spontaneity it gives you, don't let being in M2 stop you from going. It works fine for lots of guys and in fact there are some things that are better about it. You'll have a good time either way.The taxi ride between M1 & M2 is 5 K or less than $2 US. Talking to Alexa about cancellations, they do offer refunds if your space is readily taken, otherwise as said, they will use the deposit for next trip.

[Norton Nork]

Hola Dudes,

I will be in MDE in a little over a week. I'd like to schedule an appointment to get my teeth cleaned. Can anyone recommend a Dental Hygienist? Contact info would be helpful.

Thanks,

Judd.Clinical Las Vegas. Dr. Mauricio. He did some good work on me.

[Uncle Volodya]

Thanks for the good wishes and I enjoy your Thailand reports. Maybe next year. If I can pry myself away from the Colombianas!

Barkey.I am glad you like my reports and I very much look forward to hearing about your trip.

If I can pry myself from Thailand maybe you can do so for Colombia too. .

It's alwasy fun to mix it up a bti and try something new.

[El Mechanico]

The taxi ride between M1 & M2 is 5 K or less than $2 US. Talking to Alexa about cancellations, they do offer refunds if your space is readily taken, otherwise as said, they will use the deposit for next trip.100 % correct, if you ask the front desk for a taxi, they will call one & tell you what # it will be so no one else gets your cab. They are very efficient & are usually there in under 5 min! The minimum is 5 K COP regardless what the meter reads. The first time I took one back to the M2 from the M1, the meter barely moved & he asked for 5 K, which I found out later was standard fare for the journey up the hill!

[GringoItaliano]

This post covers the first leg of my first trip to Colombia in late August and early September 2016, during which I spent one week each in Medellin (MDE) and then in Cartagena (CTG). Please see the General Info section for the first installment of my serialized reporting, in which I provided an overview of my trip and a comparison of my experiences in the two cities.

I chose to stay at the Mansion for several reasons, including the received wisdom that it is the best place for a MDE newbie to stay. I agree with that advice and would add that it seems like a great place for experienced MDE mongers to stay as well. Most of the other Mansion guests were regulars or repeat visitors. One guest had been there at least 50 times, and others stayed there several times a year. In fact, my newbie status evidently struck some of the other guests and staff as noteworthy, such that I became known as "the new guy. " I hope to stay at the Mansion whenever I return to MDE.

Another principal reason for me to stay at the Mansion was the availability of on-site chicas. This factor turned out to be critical, as most of my MDE sessions were with chicas that I met at the Mansion. The convenient "meet & greet" aspect of previous trips to Costa Rica (CR) and the Dominican Republic (DR) was a key element in my enjoyment of those experiences. I liked being able to meet chicas in the bar or lobby of the Del Rey or at Rumba in Sosua and take them either right up the elevator to my room at the Del Rey or on the three-minute walk to my room at New Garden. The foreplay or the session practically began wherever I met and decided to pull them, so it was great to stay at a convenient source of quality chicas, where you could interview them in a safe, comfortable environment at a leisurely pace and then quickly bring them right up to your room. I also appreciated the Mansion's vetting and ID checking, given the risks of [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) chicas or troublemakers.

With that said, the principal limitation of the talent pool at the Mansion is the relatively small amount of chicas there at any given time, even on a relatively busy night. The numbers were significantly lower than what I had come to expect from CR and the DR. The smaller selection does make it harder to find a chica that suits one's personal tastes.

This limitation may have been more of an issue for me because, as I discovered, my taste in women differs from that of most of my fellow gringo mongers (or least other Mansion guests) and is closer to that of Colombians. I wanted to come to Colombia because of my experiences with Colombians in the US with a certain body type that I found less in Colombia than I had hoped and expected: tall & thick with big tits & ass (often of the silicone variety, to which I have no objection in principle, as long as the workmanship is of good quality). The chica demographic at the Mansion was shorter and / or skinnier than I would have preferred, which I took to be a reflection of the tastes of Mansion guests, I. E. The chicas who are less appealing to gringo tastes come less frequently or not at all because they do not get enough business there. I went to Colombia for tits & ass, not petite spinners. If wanted short or skinny girls, I would have gone to Thailand or the Philippines.

The fact that I nonetheless had such a great time with chicas who were not the best fit for my physical preferences speaks volumes about the quality of the talent there. Rapport, chemistry, and quality service are ultimately more important to me, and in this regard the Mansion chicas exceeded my expectations and significantly outperformed their counterparts in CR, the DR, and CTG. The Mansion talent pool compensated for its smaller size and lesser diversity with higher, more consistent quality.

A key element for me was the chicas' generally good behavior and the overall lack of drama. The worst thing that any of them did to me was to have me buy her a drink and then walk away with it instead of keeping me company as she drank it. I had no issues with payments, the provision of the promised services, etc. Many of the chicas were persistent in seeking my business, but not pushy about it. Several chicas were quite charming– enough to overcome my usual resistance to engage a chica that approached me out of the blue. Such sessions would have been disappointing in CR or the DR, but I was satisfied with the results thereof at the Mansion. I imagine that the chicas have strong incentives to behave themselves and perform well in order to maintain their reputations among the more closely-knit Mansion client base and their access to such a key market. It also makes me wonder how the same chicas would have behaved and performed if I had met them in different circumstances or we had our sessions elsewhere, E. G. An apartment or a chica-friendly hotel.

All of my sessions at the Mansion were at least OK or satisfactory; I did not have a single mediocre or negative experience, and a few of them were spectacular. All were GFE to varying degrees, except one, who compensated for that by doing me like a wild animal, and in all fairness I did not invest as much time in pre-session rapport building with her as I normally would have. All provided BBBJ, which seemed to be typical for the Mansion / Facebook crowd, but not universal; I did pass on a few who insisted on CBJ. I only found two chicas at the Mansion who allowed CIM, though; many of the others asked me not to CIM, and some displayed the hesitation to provide a blowjob finish (presumably due to CIM fears) that I observed elsewhere in Colombia and Latin America.

I knew from my prior research that 150 K COP was the typical hourly rate for Mansion chicas, but that some asked for 200 K COP. When I got ready to pull a chica and close the deal, I did not ask them how much they wanted but merely informed them that I would pay them 150 K for an hour. A majority of them accepted this rate without further discussion or just asked for taxi money (another 20 K). A minority of them pushed back and asked for 200 K, to which I responded by promising them only 150 K but agreeing to provide them with the remaining 50 K (20 K taxi money and 30 K tip) if and only if they provided a high quality of service. This strategy yielded highly rewarding results, as these chicas did indeed consistently outperform those that accepted my initial offer of 150 K, as they had more incentive to do so. Another pleasant surprise, and a welcome contrast to CR, the DR, and CTG, was that I did not have any issues paying any of the Mansion chicas after our sessions, I. E. None of them asked for payment up front, and none of them disputed the amounts that I paid them after the sessions.

I had to re-learn the importance of pacing oneself, as the environment of the Mansion and the quality of the talent pool make it easy to overindulge. Within eight hours of settling in to the Mansion, I had already had four leches with two different chicas. I slowed down the next day and had only one two-leche session with one chica, as I knew that there would be a ton of chicas on-site the next night for a birthday party for one of the Mansion regulars. I definitely overindulged the night of that party, when I had five leches with four different chicas within approximately eight hours. Altogether, in one week at the Mansion, I had 13 sessions with 12 different chicas there (one of them was a TLN with a chica I had previously done), yielding a total of 18 leches. Combined with one daytime Centro casa run (which I will report separately), my total MDE body count was 16 sessions with 15 different chicas, yielding a total of 21 leches.

I got the impression from other Mansion guests that my heavy reliance on face-to-face, "meet & greet" interaction for most of my chica pulls put me in the minority among Mansion guests, for whom Facebook was a leading source of chicas. I knew before I arrived that there was a heavy overlap between the Mansion chica crowd and the Facebook chica crowd, but my stay there left me with the impression that it is difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish those two crowds. Many of the chicas that I met at the Mansion came there for an appointment that they made through Facebook and hung around before or after the appointment in search of more business.

I was hesitant to take the Facebook route because having face-to-face, "meet & greet" contact to help me decide if I wanted to pull the trigger was so important to me in my previous CR and DR experience. I like to be able to sample the merchandise, kick the tires, and figure out if we have chemistry before I decide to pull a chica. I figured that if I wanted to find hookers on the Internet, I could do that at home, instead of traveling to Colombia to do it, and at least hookers in the US have reviews to establish their authenticity and quality. I did find some online reviews of Facebook chicas by gringo mongers, but I ran into the same problem that I had with the selection of on-site Mansion chicas: most other gringo mongers' tastes differ from mine, so the photos of those with the best reviews did not appeal to me.

I did nonetheless establish some initial Facebook contacts just before my trip, and I ended up having sessions with two of them when they showed up at the Mansion for other reasons. That initial Facebook contact broke the ice and made it easier for me to pull the trigger when we later met in person by chance. Both sessions were great, and one of them was spectacular. In retrospect, I wish that I had pulled chicas directly from Facebook by making appointments, which would have enabled me to overcome the small selection and short-and-skinny bias of the on-site Mansion talent pool. My relative success with Tinder during the second leg of my trip in CTG (which I will report separately) overcame my reluctance to pull chicas from the Internet without prior face-to-face contact, but I only resorted to Tinder there because the usual CTG venues were not working as well for me as I had hoped. I plan to use Facebook extensively to pull chicas on my next trip to MDE and now have an extensive network of contacts for that purpose.

The sense of camaraderie among Mansion mongers was another key factor in my experience. Since the primary purpose of a mongering trip is to interact with chicas, not with other guys, I did not interact much with other mongers in CR and the DR. Frankly, many of the other mongers that I encountered in CR and the DR were not guys with whom I would want to hang out anyway. In contrast, the Mansion guests struck me as a much classier demographic, and I enjoyed hanging out with several of them.

If nothing else, other Mansion guests were a critical source of information on the on-site chicas and the general MDE mongering scene. Some of them showed me the ropes as a newbie, and by the end of my stay they were seeking my feedback on chicas that I had pulled. In such a closely-knit environment, I found other Mansion guests' feedback to be just as or more useful than online forum reviews of chicas; it is often a lot easier to ask a fellow guest about "that blonde chica with the braces and big butt that you pulled from La Cueva last night" than it is to try to correlate online reviews with a flesh-and-blood chica, on the off-chance that you run into her face-to-face. The best times for networking with other Mansion guests are at breakfast or at night in La Cueva (if you are not actively scoping out a chica).

I had read in my prior MDE research that many Mansion guests literally never left the premises during their stay. That tendency struck me as odd, given the wide range of mongering options outside the Mansion in MDE, to say nothing of my desire to explore the city or at least avoid cabin fever. Having spent a week there, however, I now understand why many Mansion guests take that approach, even if I would not pursue it myself.

I had originally intended to explore as wide a range of MDE mongering options as possible. Once I had sampled the Mansion talent pool, however, I stuck with it for the most part, since it was working well enough for me - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it. " My only sessions outside the Mansion were during my one daytime Centro casa run, in which I sought to find chicas who were a better fit for my body type preferences than the typical Mansion demographic. I did succeed in that regard, but the quality of service that I received in the Centro casas was significantly lower, so I did not return to them (I will report this casa run separately). I had also planned to visit at least one strip club. Probably Fase II. But the feedback of a fellow Mansion guest about the mediocre service that he received there prompted me to stick to the Mansion talent pool. In retrospect, I do wish that I had ventured out to the MDE strip clubs at least once, as the CTG strip clubs had a high proportion of chicas with my preferred body type.

I did, however, get around to exploring MDE outside the Mansion from a non-mongering perspective, such as daytime trips to the two art museums, the zoo, and the aquarium. There was enough to keep me busy during my non-mongering time, and I deliberately paced myself so that I would still have some new non-mongering things left to do on future trips. Nonetheless, MDE did not strike me as an interesting city to visit, and I would probably have little or no reason to visit it if it were not a top-notch mongering destination and full of beautiful women. I understand that the mainstream, non-mongering nightlife in MDE appeals to many mongers, but I have no interest in going to bars, clubs, or discos unless I am picking up chicas. The lack of other, non-mongering things to do is one of the main factors that prevents me from visiting MDE more frequently in the future– but I do plan to return repeatedly.

So here are some questions for MDE veterans, the answers to which I hope will benefit my future trips to MDE and those of future MDE newbies.

Is your assessment of the Mansion / Facebook talent pool consistent with mine? In other words, have your sessions been as consistently satisfactory as mine were?

Does pulling or having a session with a chica at the Mansion, instead of an apartment or a hotel, impact her behavior or the quality of her service? In other words, would the same chica behave and perform just as well in another setting, or does her desire to maintain her reputation and her access at the Mansion motivate her to perform and behave better than she might elsewhere?

Have you noticed a difference in the quality of sessions that you have had with chicas that you pulled directly from Facebook, without prior face-to-face contact? Have they been better, worse, or of the same quality as sessions with chicas that you pulled face-to-face?

How would you compare the overall quality of the Mansion / Facebook chica demographic to that of the other mongering options in MDE, I. E. Casas, strip clubs, prepagos, streetwalkers, etc? My time in MDE led me to believe that the other options would generally yield or at least risk a lower quality of service if I went outside the Mansion / Facebook crowd – would you agree?

Is my preferred body type– tall & thick, tits & ass– as common in the MDE strip clubs as it was in CTG? In other words, do Colombian strip clubs tend to hire my preferred body type, or was that just a fluke in the two CTG strip clubs that I visited (which have the same owner)?

[Queber331]

Hello,

I'm heading to the Mansion in about a week.

Can anyone recommend a way to request female companionship at the Mansion?

For morning massage, additional fun, etc.

Any reliable escort sites or other?

Thanks.

[YippieKayay]

Is my preferred body type tall & thick, tits & ass as common in the MDE strip clubs as it was in CTG? In other words, do Colombian strip clubs tend to hire my preferred body type, or was that just a fluke in the two CTG strip clubs that I visited (which have the same owner)?I can't answer the question about MDE since I've yet to go (but plan to), but I will say two things:

* I have the same taste as you. I like tall with a bit of meat.

* You seem like an experienced monger, but if you haven't tried it yet, on the way to Colombia for your next trip, stop by Panama for a night and check out a place called Habanos. There's a Panama thread on this forum that has more info. I had no problem finding the types I liked and even went all chubby chaser one night with a BBW. They were Colombians too.

Thanks for the comparison between CTG and MDE. If in CTG the women are larger and "healthier" then that alone makes it worth the trip. And like you mention in your other report, having something to do during the day is key for me. I don't go to Panama anymore because it's boring as fuck during the day.

[Combo]

GringoItaliano -- that's one of the most informative reports I've ever read here. I've been to MDE many times (at the Mansion as well as Hotels and apartments) and I found myself nodding my head yes to your commentary.

I agree with your description of the Mansion. I've always thought it's biggest selling point is the support group and camaraderie it gives you.

As far as sexual performance I wouldn't say the girls at the Mansion are, on average, any worse or better than what I've experienced in other venues in MDE. However, they are better-behaved, which is important. They're not likely to rob you or scam you on the Mansion's premises. If you're in an apartment, you're sort of on your own.

I'm not experienced with cold calls from Facebook. I only use it to keep in touch with chicas I already know that I met in person first. I need to see and interact with a girl in person to determine whether I want them or not.

As far as non-mongering activities, no, MDE does not have a lot of obvious ones. However, you can find things to do. Guatape/el Penol outside of town is a must see. Beautiful scenery and great hiking. I have played tennis in MDE (clay courts at Estadio) and I read on here last week that Gringos can find there way into some of the private Golf Clubs in MDE.

The restaurant scene has dramatically improved over the last 6 - 8 years. And their are some good dance clubs on la 70 and la 33 (though most Gringos may not be comfortable there).

[RedTibetan23]

I'm not only impressed by the content, but the length! Every time I tried writing something more than a few paragraphs (more in the Rio section and the sister sire, Argentina Private), I've gotten kicked out and lost everything.

I'd like to get the Facebook thing rolling, but am starting from scratch (and I don't FB in my regular life, so I'm a bit of a neophyte). Any tips from someone more polished at this? This would be more for future trips (not my upcoming October one), so I'm better prepared to stay in an apartment should The Mansion be unavailable. Or do I really need to start with some chicas I meet when back down there in October?

[GringoItaliano]

I can't answer the question about MDE since I've yet to go (but plan to), but I will say two things:

* I have the same taste as you. I like tall with a bit of meat.

* You seem like an experienced monger, but if you haven't tried it yet, on the way to Colombia for your next trip, stop by Panama for a night and check out a place called Habanos. There's a Panama thread on this forum that has more info. I had no problem finding the types I liked and even went all chubby chaser one night with a BBW. They were Colombians too.

Thanks for the comparison between CTG and MDE. If in CTG the women are larger and "healthier" then that alone makes it worth the trip. And like you mention in your other report, having something to do during the day is key for me. I don't go to Panama anymore because it's boring as fuck during the day.My allusion to taller, thicker women with more tits & ass in CTG referred to the two main CTG strip clubs (Isis and Pleyclub) and not to CTG in general. I apologize if my original wording was unclear. Please do not go to CTG thinking that the women there are taller and meatier. But if you do go to CTG, you should definitely check out Isis and Pleyclub.

With that said, I did notice that none of the venues in CTG had the bias in favor of shorter and skinnier chicas that the Mansion did. I believe that the short-and-skinny bias of the Mansion talent pool reflects its exclusively gringo client base. In contrast, the clientele in the CTG venues that I visited included a mix of gringos and Colombianos and thus did not have a strong bias in favor of either gringo or Colombian tastes. The two CTG strip clubs did seem to have a bias in favor of taller and more voluptuous women, but that may be because such women often look more striking and project more of a presence on stage. Which was why I was wondering if the demographic at MDE strip clubs was similar.

Body types aside, I much preferred MDE to CTG overall; please see the introduction to my serialized trip reporting in the General Info section, and keep an eye out for the CTG reporting that I will be posting on the CTG thread.

[GringoItaliano]

I'm not only impressed by the content, but the length! Every time I tried writing something more than a few paragraphs (more in the Rio section and the sister sire, Argentina Private), I've gotten kicked out and lost everything.

I'd like to get the Facebook thing rolling, but am starting from scratch (and I don't FB in my regular life, so I'm a bit of a neophyte). Any tips from someone more polished at this? This would be more for future trips (not my upcoming October one), so I'm better prepared to stay in an apartment should The Mansion be unavailable. Or do I really need to start with some chicas I meet when back down there in October?So here is what I did, as a MDE newbie and someone with little or no other use for Facebook.

I set up a burner Facebook account for this purpose and populated it with enough content to give a basic sense of who I was (including photos and my ability to communicate in Spanish), but without revealing too much about my full identity and my private life, e. G. I did not use my last name. Without explicitly stating that I was a monger, I made it clear in a way that most of the chicas clearly figured out.

I found a list of Facebook accounts for MDE chicas in an earlier post on this thread and sent them friend requests. I had a fairly high acceptance rate, although many of them cannot accept any more friend requests due to the high number of friend requests that they have already received. I communicated with some of them via Messenger and also occasionally flirted with them, E. G. By liking or commenting on their photos. Some of them initiated flirting with me or flirted back with me. I explained to them that I was coming to MDE and staying at the Mansion. Some got right to the point and asked me if I wanted to schedule a session with them. Others took their time to build rapport and chemistry before popping the question. You can ask them the same questions that you would in a face-to-face pull, E. G. Rates, BBBJ vs. CBJ, etc.

I went through the friends lists of those chicas that accepted my friend requests in order to find more chicas. You will learn pretty quickly how to distinguish the working girls from the general female population, based largely on the type of photos and other content that they post and whether or not they have male friends who are obviously gringo mongers. I repeated the process until I had built a fairly large network.

I added as friends those chicas that I met in person at the Mansion and repeated this process to expand my network further. As your network grows, you will receive friend requests from obvious working girls who will hit you up for business. I also used Facebook as my primary means of communication with chicas that I met in person during my stay, and some of them have kept in touch with me since I got back, E. G. By liking new photos that I posted or sending me affectionate or sexual messages.

[Advantageous]

Hello,

I'm heading to the Mansion in about a week.

Can anyone recommend a way to request female companionship at the Mansion?

For morning massage, additional fun, etc.

Any reliable escort sites or other?

Thanks.Wow, didn't even bother reading this very page huh? I don't expect everyone who posts to have gone back ten pages, but ten posts would be nice. Everything you asked for, and possibly the PhotoPrepagos website can be found in ten minutes of browsing. GL & RTFF FFS

[Uncle Volodya]

Wow! Fantastic and comprehensive reports GringoItaliano!

Very useful for someone who is planning a first time visit like me.

From what I gather form you an others it seems like Medellin and the Mansion in particular are more geared towards ST. Is LT also an option with these girls?

And as far as Facebook, how do you find your girls on there?

Thanks again for this great contribution!

[GringoItaliano]

Wow! Fantastic and comprehensive reports GringoItaliano!

Very useful for someone who is planning a first time visit like me.

From what I gather form you an others it seems like Medellin and the Mansion in particular are more geared towards ST. Is LT also an option with these girls?

And as far as Facebook, how do you find your girls on there?

Thanks again for this great contribution!I found that there were two default options with the Mansion chicas: 1 hour and TLN. I imagine that I could have negotiated something in between, if I had so desired, but I did not. The TLN rate is usually twice whatever the chica gets for an hour. The typical 1 hour rate for a Mansion chica is 150 K COP, but a minority of them will push for 200 K COP.

If you go to the Medellin casas, most of which are in Centro, you can go for half-hour or one-hour sessions. In the cheap Centro casas, the half hour rate is usually around 40 K COP, give or take, whereas the hourly rate is usually 60-70 K COP, give or take. I only went for half-hour sessions, given the hit-or-miss nature of casa sessions (I will post a report on my casa run there shortly).

Please see my below response to RedTibetan23 for information on how to find chicas on Facebook.

[GringoItaliano]

Hello,

I'm heading to the Mansion in about a week.

Can anyone recommend a way to request female companionship at the Mansion?

For morning massage, additional fun, etc.

Any reliable escort sites or other?

Thanks.Please read the extensive trip report on my recent stay at the Mansion that I posted just before you posted your inquiry. Also, please see my subsequent post on using Facebook, which seemed to be the leading source of chicas for many Mansion guests.

Don't worry about requesting female companionship at the Mansion. The female companionship will find you. Just hang out in the pool / lobby area in the afternoon and in the downstairs bar after 6 pm. Approach whoever you like, or just let them approach you. If you are new to the Mansion, as I was, they will probably want to check out the "fresh meat. " I usually shot down or received mediocre service from any chicas that approached me in other mongering destinations. Costa Rica, the DR, etc. - but the girls that approached me in the Mansion were more appealing and showed me a good time.

[GringoItaliano]

I went on a casa run through Medellin (MDE) Centro casas on August 31,2016, during the first, week-long MDE leg of my first, two-week trip to Colombia in late August – early September 2016. Please see the separate installments of my reporting on my overall trip to Colombia and my stay at the Mansion for more background information.

I had planned on visiting the Centro casas in the interest of exploring the many different options in the broader MDE mongering scene beyond the Mansion and as a source of daytime action. My initial experiences with the Mansion talent pool, however, worked well enough for me once I got there that I hesitated to explore further - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it. " With that said, the Mansion talent pool skewed skinnier and shorter than preferred body type; I am a tits & ass kind of guy, which was one of the main reasons that I came to Colombia in the first place. I made the casas a priority again in response to the advice of a fellow Mansion guest, who suggested that I would find more chicas with my preferred voluptuous body type in the casas.

The fellow Mansion guest suggested that I start in the morning, at 11 AM or so. It was late enough to give as many of the chicas as possible enough time to come into work, but early enough that they would still be fresh (instead of "sloppy seconds") and just before the influx of Colombianos at lunch time. This advice was consistent with my own previous experience at San Jose (SJO) casas in Costa Rica (CR). This fellow Mansion guest also suggested that I start with New Life, which I knew from my previous research to be one of the largest casas and a favorite of gringo mongers; it was already high on my to-do list before I arrived, and whenever I asked fellow Mansion guests about Centro casas, New Life was usually their first suggestion, followed by Energy.

I arrived at around 11 AM, viewed the line-up (I have more general comments on casa line-up viewing procedures below), and selected Milena, a statuesque dirty-blonde MILF (30 ish) with substantial tits & ass – of the silicone variety, but also of good quality. I liked the view from the front when she presented herself in the line-up, but the sight of her from behind as she walked away was what sold me. She later demonstrated to me that her booty was so big that it could function like a table, and one could rest objects on top of it, like that famous photo of Kim Kardashian with a glass of champagne on her ass.

I realize that her age and silicone might not be to everyone else's taste, but she provided quality service that most mongers would appreciate. She got right down to business with some dirty talk in Spanish and DFK, and it was not long before we had relieved ourselves of our clothing. She expressed pleasure at the sight of my raging hard-on and immediately got down on her knees to suck it in front of a mirror – she provided BBBJ on her own initiative and did not request a tip in exchange for it. If her enthusiasm was not genuine, she certainly persuaded me otherwise. The BBBJ was good, but I really wanted to hit that booty, as I eventually did in doggie, CG, and RCG, where the sight of her twerking and her adept use of her lower body musculature eventually caused me to lose it in the cover. We cuddled and chatted a bit for the remainder of our half hour. The only downside was that she was not photo-friendly, which I respected. She did ask for a tip later (which I gladly provided), but not as a quid pro quo for the BBBJ. Milena is a keeper if she is compatible with your personal taste.

I took a very long lunch break to give myself time to recover before heading over to Zandalay, which was also on my to-do list. The reception area made it seem like a more upscale facility than the other Centro casas that I visited, and the chicas in the line-up appeared to be of high quality. The only problem was that a Colombiano had taken the one that I would have pulled – a tall, thick, very light-skinned (whiter than me), and raven-haired beauty with what appeared to be naturally large tits & ass. Just as I was coming in. If I had only been a few minutes earlier. I stuck around a bit longer to see if any other talent that I liked would materialize, but it did not. I plan to check out Zandalay again on a future trip.

I took another hydration break and headed over to Paris next. The facility was underwhelming, to put it mildly, as was most of the line-up – with the exception of this young, light-skinned, and voluptuous chica with an innocent baby face, a cute smile, and a glimmer in her eye that sold me. I have forgotten her name. There were just two problems with my selection: her general lack of erotic skill and her insistence on CBJ. She had a sufficiently ample booty for me to bang out my leche eventually, but I did most of the work. She did try to provide some GFE as we cuddled for the remainder of the half hour, but she was evidently unaware of the importance of providing GFE to a client BEFORE sex and not just afterward. She was a nice girl but just not good at her job.

I took another long break to eat, rehydrate, and recuperate before heading over to Latinas. This facility was also underwhelming, but the line-up was more impressive than that of Paris. I selected Allison, who had large natural tits & ass, a cute face, and typical mestizo skin and hair color. There were two problems with my selection. The first problem was her insistence on CBJ, and I suspect that my mere request for BBBJ in exchange for a tip may have rubbed her the wrong way. Unlike the chica from Paris, Allison clearly knew how to work it, but she displayed an attitude that not only detracted from my mood but may have also motivated her to perform poorly. In fact, I wonder if she performed that way just to spite me. On occasion, I expressed pleasure at what she was doing, to which she responded by stopping it and starting to do something else. It also did not help that she kept reminding me that we only had half an hour and asking me if I had leched yet. I finally did leche, with a weak CBJ. Oh, and another thing: I paid for the 40 K session with a 50 K bill, and the mamasan told me that I could get my change after the session, as she purportedly did not have any change at that time. I had to hunt her down and badger her for my 10 K change for several minutes after the session.

I found that certain features of these casas limit how much mileage one can get out of them. The line-up presentations were often so fast that I did not have much time to inspect the chicas physically, let alone gauge their demeanor. The chicas also returned to the rear areas or back rooms after the viewing, instead of hanging out in the lobby or waiting area, with the exception of two chicas in the lobby at Zandalay. Of course, some of these facilities do not have a lobby large enough to accommodate much of their line-up. I preferred the SJO casas in which at least some of the chicas would hang out in the bar areas, where you could observe them or even talk to them before pulling the trigger. My best SJO casa pull came from watching a Nicaraguan morena at Zona II pretend to do another chica in CG in the bar area; she rocked my world, and watching her work it enabled me to make the right choice to pull her.

This MDE casa run was less fruitful than my prior SJO casa experiences. This lower quality of service surprised me, as I found that MDE was otherwise vastly superior to SJO. I did stick to the higher-end casas in SJO, though, so I wonder if these experiences at the cheap MDE Centro casas demonstrate that "you get what you pay for. " I did think about visiting some of the higher-end MDE casas, such as Energy and Loutron, but they were too far out of the way to include in this casa run; I would have had no problem paying higher prices for higher-quality service, and in retrospect perhaps they would have been worth the cab rides, considering how poorly I fared at Paris and Latinas. Beyond the pricing issue, however, this experience makes me wonder whether or not the casa business model is a good fit for me.

For starters, the chicas do not get to evaluate and pick their own clients, in contrast to the "meet & greet" approach of the independent chicas at the Del Rey, the Mansion, etc. You can usually get a good enough idea of how comfortable an independent chica is with you and decide to pass if the rapport or chemistry seems weak and thereby increases the risk of a bad or mediocre session. I got the distinct impression from the facial expressions and other body language of some of the chicas that I saw in these line-ups that they were either not happy to see me or just disliked their jobs in general. I also noticed that some of the chicas at Paris and Latinas peeked into my waiting area from behind a curtain in order to check me out before stepping into the waiting area for me to view them.

The opportunity to negotiate services – primarily BBBJ – is also a big deal to me. It seems like you are stuck with the luck of the draw after you pull the trigger in these MDE casas. I never had any problems "upgrading" to BBBJ in exchange for a tip in the SJO casas, but maybe I was just lucky or did the right thing by sticking to the higher-end SJO casas.

I have some questions for MDE casa veterans. I hope that answers to these questions will inform future casa runs for MDE mongers (myself included).

Have others had consistently or generally positive results at New Life, and is that why it seems so popular among gringo mongers?

Have others had similarly disappointing results at Paris and Latinas? I am wondering if the lower quality of my sessions at those two casas was attributable to the luck of the draw, the general quality of those two casas, or the problem of "sloppy seconds" in the afternoon.

Have you found that you received a higher quality of service at the more expensive casas, e. G. Energy, Loutron, etc?

Are there any MDE casas where chicas are consistently or usually willing (or unwilling) to "upgrade" to BBBJ in exchange for a tip?

Are there any MDE casas where chicas hang out in a lobby, bar, or waiting area, instead of retreating to their back rooms after the line-up viewing?

[Barkey]

Italian Gringo.

I also want to also thank you for an outstanding report which offers great information. The timing was perfect.

I'm off to MDE tomorrow and will be the newest nubie checking into the Mansion for a couple of nights. It is great to learn that there is a good selection of flacas. I guess I fall into the category of gringos looking for the skinnier ones and not the, shall we say, overly enhanced types. Most of my experience with Colombianas has been in SXM where it seems like 95% are well enhanced to one degree or another. That doesn't deter me from having a good time though.

I hope to put your information to good use.

Thanks again,

Barkey.

[Combo]

Italian Gringo.

I also want to also thank you for an outstanding report which offers great information. The timing was perfect.

I'm off to MDE tomorrow and will be the newest nubie checking into the Mansion for a couple of nights. It is great to learn that there is a good selection of flacas. I guess I fall into the category of gringos looking for the skinnier ones and not the, shall we say, overly enhanced types. Most of my experience with Colombianas has been in SXM where it seems like 95% are well enhanced to one degree or another. That doesn't deter me from having a good time though.

I hope to put your information to good use.

Thanks again,

Barkey.Plenty (too many IMO) of enhanced ones all over MDE including the Mansion. I doubt that will deter you from having a good time.

[Iguana Six]

GringoItaliano:

Try more of the casas, both down town and in the Prado area. Much more diversity of body type.

[Stefano76]

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[PianoPlayer]

Have others had consistently or generally positive results at New Life, and is that why it seems so popular among gringo mongers?

Have others had similarly disappointing results at Paris and Latinas? I am wondering if the lower quality of my sessions at those two casas was attributable to the luck of the draw, the general quality of those two casas, or the problem of "sloppy seconds" in the afternoon.

Have you found that you received a higher quality of service at the more expensive casas, e. G. Energy, Loutron, etc?

Are there any MDE casas where chicas are consistently or usually willing (or unwilling) to "upgrade" to BBBJ in exchange for a tip?

Are there any MDE casas where chicas hang out in a lobby, bar, or waiting area, instead of retreating to their back rooms after the line-up viewing?Excellent report, let's have more posts like this. Here are some thoughts on your questions:

1. New Life is popular because of the higher number of chicas, mostly. I doubt that quality of service or physical attributes are much different. Be skeptical of any generalizations about casas. There is so much turnover among chicas that your experience will vary from trip to trip and even day to day.

2. Paris and Latinas are definitely smaller and lower quality in my experience, but see my prior comment on casa inconsistency generally.

3. Service is not higher quality at Energy & Loutron, but some regard the chica attractiveness as more consistent, and certainly the rooms and facilities are nicer. In my experience you will always have to pay extra for BBBJ, if it is even available, for example.

4. Some will and some won't, and I'm not aware of casas that have consistently enforced policies on the BBBJ issue. At Energy a tip is always required and they don't always deliver.

5. Lindas Chicas is an evening casa (I believe it opens at 6 pm) with a bar. Occasionally you can persuade a chica at New Life to sit with you and have a beer, but usually after a session not before. If you want the bar environment go to one of the strip clubs. Fase Dos is known for girls with silicone. In fact one mansion girl told me she was fired from Fase Dos because after 6 months working there she refused to get implants. You can find detailed reviews of casas and strip clubs in the Medellin map and Medellin lists threads (this Medellin reports thread has a lot of clutter between actual trip reports.).

[TrueScotsMan]

Hi guys,

So I'm coming to Medellin in November, I've booked the charlie but I also want to book M1 for a few nights.

It's my first time to Colombia and I have heard great things about the famous mansion. I have a few questions to vets of Colombia. The daily routine in the house, and do the girls change daily? I've seen some reports but they may be out dated.

Any ideas what is the best room in M1.

Thanks guys.

[MedellinGringo]

Hi guys,

So I'm coming to Medellin in November, I've booked the charlie but I also want to book M1 for a few nights.

It's my first time to Colombia and I have heard great things about the famous mansion. I have a few questions to vets of Colombia. The daily routine in the house, and do the girls change daily? I've seen some reports but they may be out dated.

Any ideas what is the best room in M1.

Thanks guys.The girls change daily but not so much on a weekly basis. If you spend a week at the Mansion you will most likely meet all the girls that show up on a regular basis. And if you spend 2 weeks at the Mansion you will see a lot of the same girls.

As far as the best room at M!. Well that is easy. The one you can get is the best one. Jajaja.

Since you are only looking to stay a few nights there will probably be some rooms available. But usually you have to book at least a couple of months in advance to get a room at M1.

[ThadMax]

With great respect for the contributions on this board from tourists respectful of Medellin culture. I wanted to recollect my visit to Medellin from December 2015.

To those wondering if early December (first 2 weeks of December) are good times to visit Medellin. I would say: absolutely.

My first and only trip to Medellin was last December - 2nd weekend of the month. I stayed for 4 days and it was an epic experience.

However. You *must* do your homework. Sifting through these boards will reveal a gem of information. But of course. Synthesizing.

That is the gift we can give to other members.

Note: I do not speak Spanish (save for a few choice phrases) - I traveled alone. And had nobody guiding me.

I stayed in an airbnb apartment in Parque Liars (chica friendly) - and it was a secure, high-end place for approx. $105/ night. Know that you can secure housing for far cheaper. But if you are traveling to Medellin for your first time and do not speak Spanish. I recommend paying a premium for secure, high-end, well-reviewed, accountable accommodations. I am thinking of staying at Charlee next time for contrast.

Despite not speaking any Spanish. I had zero problems. Just be observant, study body language and expressions, and have google translate on your phone handy. Whenever I need to have some detailed conversation (particularly with women) - I had my google translate app up and running and it was very effective. The chicas are on the their phones in Medellin now as is. Being that SnapChat, Facebook, Instagram, and social media is global. And Colombians have arrived in the social media space for sure. So it's natural for them to like to look at a phone and not strange to them at all. In fact, it was a great way for me to break the ice with Colombian women and build rapport.

This review is geared more towards the non-Spanish speaking traveler who is visiting Medellin to see the world-class experience with Colombian women: I recommend going to strip clubs like La Isla and Fase II as your core visits each night. Yes. You may pay a bit more for experiences with women here. But it's a safe, legal and well regulated environment with some of the most beautiful women you'll ever have the privilege of seeing. I was very pleased with multiple visits here. I was also able to see women I met at these clubs outside of the club to welcome to where I was staying. I did go to some of the more localized spots (barra ejecutiva for example) - and had a good time and highly recommend it (it's a much more raw, authentic, on the ground Medellin experience) - but I preferred the clubs like face II and la isla because it's more of a world-class representation of Medellin for the non-Spanish speaking traveler who wants more of world-class experience.

I did also use Tinder. But I actually found I was meeting non-working women often via Tinder in what was more of a traditional dating feel (I'm 36 year old And take pride in my appearance. Have dark European (Italian) looks. So I blend in fairly well in Medellin) - and I was amazed at how sensual, open, friendly, and passionate Colombian women are. The key is to respect the local culture. Be quiet and observe when necessary. Don't draw attention to yourself. Be confident / assertive / cautious / aware in how you conduct yourself in public. And do your homework to know where you're going. If a cab driver can't understand you. Just show him the address in google maps on your phone. Know what the going rates are for cab rides, casa / strip club fees. And GFE / PSE standard rates. Don't be cheap! The dollar is ridiculously strong in Colombia (if you're coming from the US) - and even the higher priced economy in Medellin is a bargain. You didn't come all the way to Medellin to save $17 - enjoy it.

I think it's also key to be friendly to fellow mongers. Although I was visiting solo. I met up with 3 other mongers who were also solo. And we linked up on multiple nights to visit casas / clubs / neighborhoods together.

I'm thinking of heading back in Nov / Dec. Again this year as Medellin has been on my mind ever since I left. Am headed to Frankfurt, Paris, and Amsterdam next month. Anybody have some quick pieces of advice for the scene there?

Safe travels and may your mongering be epic and respectful of local culture / custom / law.

[Uncle Volodya]

Above and beyond the call of duty.

This info is much appreciated.

Cheers!

[Reef LostCause]

Am headed to Frankfurt, Paris, and Amsterdam next month. Anybody have some quick pieces of advice for the scene there?
Hi.

It seems we can't email you.

Drop me a message if you ever get the subscription.

I live in one of these cities, know another well, and would be interested in trading stories over a drink.

[BrohamaJohn]

Hey,

I'm heading back next month. Seeking a buddy to meet up with. Any advice or tips appreciated too. Who's in Colombia in Oct?

[GringoItaliano]

The most central and popular mongering venues in Cartagena (CTG) – the Clock Tower, La Dolce Vita (LDV), and Playa Hollywood – yielded the most disappointing results for me for a variety of reasons, including scams, requests for payment up front, and ridiculous requests for 50 K COP in "taxi money."

I chose the location of my Old City apartment due in part to its proximity to the Clock Tower, which had struck me as the single best mongering venue in CTG in my pre-trip research. I knew that the area was outdoors and had thus anticipated and prepared for the sweltering heat (even at night). What I did not expect from my pre-trip research was the smell of horse manure from the horse-drawn carriages that frequent the area. That combination of factors did not make it an appealing environment for me and did not help to get me in the mood for a session, despite the area's charming visual appeal at night.

More importantly, the physical environment is not conducive to the degree of pre-session interviewing and rapport-building that I would normally do with independent chicas. The chicas there tended to keep conversations brief, no more than two to five minutes. The brusque and business-like attitude and atmosphere of CTG in general must have been a factor, but I imagine that the combination of heat and smell and the dearth of seating for both chicas and their prospective clients must have further encouraged both parties to keep conversations shorter. I did notice that I tended to have more fulfilling conversations with the chicas who were sitting either on the benches by the gate in the city walls or in the empty vendor booths on the other side, perhaps because we were both more comfortable. The chicas standing in heels in the open plaza for hours on end must have been uncomfortable, and it showed in the very brief exchanges that I had with them, most of which went nowhere.

I made my first CTG pull from the Clock Tower on the Saturday night on which I arrived. The chica in question was a blonde MILF from Medellin (MDE) with a big booty and long, curly hair down to her ass; I have forgotten her name, but do not confuse her with Carito, AKA Paulina, another blonde MILF from MDE who also operates at the Clock Tower and gave me good service. This other chica and I had agreed to 200 K COP for a 1 hour session. When we reached my apartment, she did not ask for payment up front but did ask that I place the money in plain sight, to which I had no objection. She counted the 200 K COP and falsely claimed that we had agreed to $200 USD for 1 hour. I recognized this claim from my pre-trip research as a variant of the "I meant dollars, not pesos" scam that many CTG chicas try to pull. This case differed in that she tried to pull the scam before the session, not after. I opened the door to my apartment and instructed her to leave, to which she responded by asking for 50 K COP in taxi money. I explained that I would not pay for cab fare when the Clock Tower was such a short distance away (we had walked there in five minutes), and such a short cab ride would certainly not cost 50 K. I stood firm and continued to gesture for her to leave, which she eventually did, empty-handed.

I also had to abort my second pull later that night due to payment issues. This chica, whose name I have forgotten, was a hot, young, (early 20's), and petite paisa from MDE with impeccable abs and lighter skin than me that I met in Space later that night. I walked her back to my nearby apartment, where she said "pagame" ("pay me") just as we were about to start. I explained to her that I would pay her after the session, which she would not accept. I offered to place the money in plain sight instead, which she did not accept either. The look on her face suggested to me that she was disappointed to learn that I was not a sucker. She instead asked for taxi money (not a specific sum), which I refused, since we were within walking distance of Space. I planned to return to Space in order to continue my hunting anyway and offered to escort her back there, which she accepted.

My pre-trip research on LDV had indicated to me that it would probably not be a great venue for me, but I figured that I should at least try such a prominent venue once, with very low expectations. My actual experience at LDV later that week was even worse than those low expectations, and in retrospect I wish that I had avoided LDV entirely. With that said, I do disagree with previous reporting on the purely physical attractiveness of the chicas there; I found them hotter than most previous reporters and would say that the only hotter girls that I saw in CTG were in the two strip clubs, Isis and Pleyclub.

I think that previous reporters may have rated the LDV chicas' physical attractiveness lower than me because of the chicas' attitudes, which may have influenced the reporters' perceptions of the chicas' appearance. Even at a purely physical level, a chica's attitudes are often evident in her facial expressions, which may make her appear less attractive. A 10 can look like a 7 with a frown or a creepy facial expression. The attitude that they exuded was so thick that you could practically cut it with a knife, and you could often detect it from their facial expressions or other body language without talking to them. I used the word "creepy" above, which I believe is the best way to describe the demeanor of one LDV chica that was trying to get my attention. She was totally my type in physical terms – blonde, statuesque, and voluptuous – but her creepy demeanor bugged me out. From the way that she was staring at me, I could not tell if she was signaling that she wanted to have sex with me, kill me, or both.

I spotted a thick brunette with big tits & ass that seemed more approachable and went to the bathroom to empty my bladder before approaching her, but she was gone by the time that I returned (more on her below). Shortly thereafter, a tall and voluptuous paisa brunette in her early-mid 20's with an even friendlier demeanor entered – she even smiled! In fact, she may have had the only smile that I saw at LDV, except for a petite spinner who seemed to be having the time of her life dancing by herself; the petite spinner was not my type, but another gringo pulled her right away while the other chicas just sat there moping without prospective customers. Anyway, I immediately approached this smiling paisa from MDE, whose name I have forgotten, and it was not long before we agreed to a 1 hour session. The other problem with LDV is that the music was too loud for much conversation, so I did not spend as much time on pre-session screening as I would have otherwise. I would like to think that I could have avoided what happened next with a more thorough interview, but who knows.

It emerged during the cab ride back to my Old City apartment that this chica spoke fluent English with a minimal accent – better than anyone else that I met in my two weeks in Colombia. She must have either lived in the USA Or spent a significant amount of time around gringos. I found it odd that she waited until the cab ride to reveal her fluency in English, as I had clearly identified myself as a North American during our conversation at LDV (which was entirely in Spanish). My only explanation is that she concealed her fluency in English until after I had pulled the trigger because she knew that experienced mongers may be suspicious or wary of chicas who speak fluent English. Curiously, another chica that I pulled from Tinder (see Carito, AKA Paulina) also did not reveal her knowledge of English until she began updating me via WhatsApp on the status of her late arrival for our session by taxi.

We arrived at my apartment, and she asked for payment up front. I indicated that I would pay her after the session, not before, which she rejected. I offered to place the money in plain sight instead, which she also rejected by asking rhetorically (in English), "what is that going to do for me?" She asked what the nature of my objection was (in English): "do you think that I am not going to fuck you?" She further claimed that paying up front is standard procedure in CTG because of the Secret Service scandal and because North American "escorts" (in her words) receive payment up front. I corrected her by explaining that the typical procedure for North American escorts is to leave the payment in a white envelope in plain sight, where the escort can collect it after the session. She responded by calling me a liar, to which I responded by opening the door and motioning for her to leave.

She then asked for 50 K COP in "taxi money. " If she had not asked for such a ridiculous amount of "taxi money," I would have given her 8 K COP to cover the actual cost of a cab ride from my Old City apartment back to LDV (she had just witnessed me paying 8 K COP for our ride there). Given this insult to my intelligence, I refused to give her any taxi money, to which she responded by threatening to call the police and taking out her cell phone. I responded by laughing at her, instructing her more firmly to leave, threatening to call the police myself if she did not leave, and taking out my own cell phone. She got the point and left empty-handed, yelling that "the police are coming" as I shut the door behind her. I went to the balcony of my apartment, which had a view of the street, to make sure that she walked away. As luck would have it, there were a few police officers with motorcycles about a block away. She went over to them and talked to them for about a minute before walking away. The police did not come and I heard nothing further about the incident, so I presume that they did not take her seriously.

I went to the Clock Tower later that night. Lo and behold, guess who I found? The chica that I had originally wanted to approach at LDV before she left when I went to the bathroom. I approached her right away this time, and she explained that she had left LDV because she found the atmosphere there so bad. She used some choice language to describe the other chicas at LDV, with which I would not disagree. She indicated that she had thought about approaching me at LDV but decided against it because she could tell from my body language that I was not having a good time there. I have forgotten her name, but she is from Baranquilla. We eventually agreed to a 1 hour session and commiserated about the crowd and the atmosphere at LDV during the walk back to my Old City apartment.

Once we reached my apartment, she asked for payment up front, which I refused. I explained that I would pay her after the session, which she rejected. I proposed as an alternative that I leave the payment in plain sight for her to collect after the session, which she accepted. I had learned from previous mongering experiences that chicas who want to see the money up front (even without taking it) often provide a lower quality of service, which turned out to be true in this case as well. She would hardly perform in any position other than doggie and ended up finishing me with a mediocre BBBJ. I also realized too late that she had a negative attitude, just like the other chicas at LDV about which we had been commiserating; I had mistaken her generally negative attitude for specific and legitimate concerns about the atmosphere and other chicas at LDV, which I shared. It turned out that her attitude was just as bad as that of the other chicas at LDV; there must be a lot of inter-chica cattiness there too.

I did not get around to visiting Playa Hollywood until the afternoon of my last day in CTG (a Saturday), before I left that night. The beach had been a very low priority for me, given what I had read about the scene there in my pre-trip research. The amount and quality of talent on the beach was very limited, which may have been due to bad weather earlier that day. I soon decided that I was wasting my time and instead arranged what turned out to be a very satisfying last session in CTG via Tinder.

Has anyone else encountered requests for money up front from independent CTG chicas as frequently as I did? All but one of the independent chicas that I pulled in CTG asked for payment up front or at least to see the money before the session. I found a mutually agreeable solution with most of these chicas, but I had to abort three sessions in one week in CTG because of these issues. Nothing like this happened to me in a week in MDE; it only happened to me one time each in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, and none of those chicas did anything as drastic as threatening to call the police.

The two requests for 50 K in "taxi money" smelled like a scam to me; perhaps one or both of those chicas did not even expect to get the full payment and merely planned to shake me down for 50 K, which could be profitable if they pulled it on enough guys. None of the other chicas asked for "taxi money," including the Tinder users that actually took taxis at their own expense to get to my apartment.

[El Mechanico]

Has anyone else encountered requests for money up front from independent CTG chicas as frequently as I did? All but one of the independent chicas that I pulled in CTG asked for payment up front or at least to see the money before the session. I found a mutually agreeable solution with most of these chicas, but I had to abort three sessions in one week in CTG because of these issues. Nothing like this happened to me in a week in MDE; it only happened to me one time each in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, and none of those chicas did anything as drastic as threatening to call the police.

The two requests for 50 K in "taxi money" smelled like a scam to me; perhaps one or both of those chicas did not even expect to get the full payment and merely planned to shake me down for 50 K, which could be profitable if they pulled it on enough guys. None of the other chicas asked for "taxi money," including the Tinder users that actually took taxis at their own expense to get to my apartment.Reports like this make me not want to go. I absolutely refuse (after enough bad sessions) to pay up front! The last time I did I was in San Jose & the chica had me put the cash on a table by the TV. Just as we started the session, she had to get up to "check her phone!" The session went south from there. She had put the cash in her purse, returned to the cama & all of a sudden, everything hurt, couldn't do this position, etc. , etc, etc! Never again. Now, part of the pre-session interview is, 'Voy a pagarte despues!' If they balk, I look them min the eye and smile and say 'Proxima"! Then they get up and leave & I know I have saved myself a lot of grief!

El Mechanico

[YippieKayay]

Has anyone else encountered requests for money up front from independent CTG chicas as frequently as I did? All but one of the independent chicas that I pulled in CTG asked for payment up front or at least to see the money before the session. I found a mutually agreeable solution with most of these chicas, but I had to abort three sessions in one week in CTG because of these issues. Nothing like this happened to me in a week in MDE; it only happened to me one time each in Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic, and none of those chicas did anything as drastic as threatening to call the police.
Another great report. Thanks. I buy that one girl's excuse that the secret service scandal is making the chicas more weary. I mean by the third girl I would have just caved myself and paid them up front.

Have you tried other pick up bars like Tu Candela?

[Surfer500]

The most central and popular mongering venues in Cartagena (CTG) the Clock Tower, La Dolce Vita (LDV), and Playa Hollywood yielded the most disappointing results for me for a variety of reasons, including scams, requests for payment up front, and ridiculous requests for 50 K COP in "taxi money."Not a surprising report on your CTG experiences, keep in mind that CTG is probably Colombia's number one tourist destination and hence what you experienced is as a result of lots of foreigners with money being there over the years and yes the Secret Service follies there haven't helped either. I was there 10 years ago and didn't have any requests for money up front, etc like you experienced. Time changes things as you experienced.

Enjoy Medellin now as it is changing. An outstanding and informative report for anyone considering visiting CTG!

[Hasideas Tao]

OK so the general rules apply but why not put this in the CTG thread?

With so many chicas available and so many reviews, I don't get why anyone would just give up their control and call over an unknown or at least have a short "get to know you" conversation.

A little friendly conversation and maybe a beer goes a loooong way. And you can avoid a lot of surprises when you get in private. I feel it's important to mention because if you have zero rapport, afterwards it is not beyond a third world struggling single mom supporting her sick mohter to say anything about what happened when you were in private.


Another great report. Thanks. I buy that one girl's excuse that the secret service scandal is making the chicas more weary. I mean by the third girl I would have just caved myself and paid them up front.

Have you tried other pick up bars like Tu Candela?

[Dickhead]

Now, part of the pre-session interview is, 'Voy a pagarte despues!' If they balk, I look them min the eye and smile and say 'Proxima"!Why 'próxima'? Why not just 'lárgate'?

[YippieKayay]

OK so the general rules apply but why not put this in the CTG thread?
I think he just made a mistake.



With so many chicas available and so many reviews, I don't get why anyone would just give up their control and call over an unknown or at least have a short "get to know you" conversation.
He mentions in CTG it was too business like with these particular chicas, especially at LDV.



A little friendly conversation and maybe a beer goes a loooong way. And you can avoid a lot of surprises when you get in private. I feel it's important to mention because if you have zero rapport, afterwards it is not beyond a third world struggling single mom supporting her sick mohter to say anything about what happened when you were in private.
Could you elaborate? What do you mean by 'anything'?

[Bbrocs]

Hola Dudes,

I will be in MDE in a little over a week. I'd like to schedule an appointment to get my teeth cleaned. Can anyone recommend a Dental Hygienist? Contact info would be helpful.

Thanks,

Judd.Judd I use Marcel Hincapie.

marcelhincapieg@icloud.com

Dentist office near San Juan. Cheaper then poblado. His receptionists are cute. He is into cleaning like a tooth natzi. Price should be about 24 dollars. He speaks english

[Judd]

I appreciate the info Bbrocs.

Thanks,

Judd.


Judd I use Marcel Hincapie.

marcelhincapieg@icloud.com

Dentist office near San Juan. Cheaper then poblado. His receptionists are cute. He is into cleaning like a tooth natzi. Price should be about 24 dollars. He speaks english

[Paulie97]

Hi GringoItaliano,

Once you figure out that a lot of independent providers in a certain venue want to be paid upfront it's best to get that all straight before heading to the room. That saves both you and her the time and whatever expense may be involved in going to your hotel or apartment. Other than calling the police another thing they can do is get loud and create a scene which threatens to bring the hotel manager or landlord down on your head, or the mere threat of that can be used to extort money. However IMO if you take her to your room then send her away over something like payment upfront, no BBBJ whatever that could have easily been discussed before making the trip then you should send her away with a bit of cash, though 50 mil is too much. 20 would work.

Also I'm not much on the compromise of putting the cash out in plain site. For one thing it's liable to wind up in her purse before you want it to. Also how are those sessions when you do this working out? Pretty high % of duds, right? At most I'll show them the cash first but it goes right back in my pocket where it belongs until she has earned it.

[XcRunner2414]

Hey all,

Never been to Colombia but I'm interested. But. How do you all know where to go and where to find girls? Particularly these "love casas. " Is it easy to find working girls? Is it everywhere you go in one particular area of Medellin or do you really have to do a lot of research? Any pointers?

[Advantageous]

Hey all,
Never been to Colombia but I'm interested. But. How do you all know where to go and where to find girls? Particularly these "love casas. " Is it easy to find working girls? Is it everywhere you go in one particular area of Medellin or do you really have to do a lot of research? Any pointers?LOL, we all know where to go based off reading the forum, which I highly suggest. Literally every generic high-level question you asked could be answered in 10 minutes of skimming this page, so I'd suggest doing that vs. Waiting an undetermined period of time for a stranger to answer for you.

[El Mechanico]

Why 'prxima'? Why not just 'lrgate'?Because it adequately and proficiently gets the message across! Also because other than the google translation of "cut & run" I don't know what largate means.

El Mechanico

[Nabru]

I know Barry has a studio apartment in there in the second floor. Apt 201. He rents out to gringos so maybe it's just girls the gringo is banging.There are 4 apartments per floor in that building. Barry has the 2 apartments facing the street. The 3rd apartment belongs to Divino Cielo and is used as their kitchen. I've seen some hot girls entering the 4th apartment and think it might be a casa.

[Charm City Dave]

This is what I'm getting from Accuweather for my upcoming trip in October. Someone had mentioned to me this is the airport which has very different weather then the city. Any recommendations on getting accurate weather for the city?

http://www.accuweather.com/en/co/medellin/107060/october-weather/107060?monyr=10/1/2016

[Dickhead]

https://weather.com/en/weather/today/l/COXX0020:1:CO

Weather is unlikely to be an issue. Weather is a strong point of the area. Sure, it will probably rain but nothing severe.

[Hasideas Tao]

I think he just made a mistake.

He mentions in CTG it was too business like with these particular chicas, especially at LDV.

Could you elaborate? What do you mean by 'anything'?Anything meaning something slanderous.

I am just trying to say that in these situations you are already giving a lot of trust to a stranger. At least make an attempt to gain a little insight on their personality and motives. IN any case, theoretically it should make for a better time.

[MaliBog420]

Energy.

Visited energy spa around 2 pm on a Tuesday.

Wow their lineup is bigger than I remember from last year. Probably around 20 girls with at least 4 or 5 who were really dam hot.

They have a great variety too. Everything from a fashion model looking Afro Colombian girl to girls with enhanced asses and boobs to young natural bodied girls.

130 K an hour.

Chicas Punto Com.

Vsited around 2 pm on a Wednesday. Lineup was about 10 girls with maybe 3 to my taste. Rooms are pretty basic, only cold water shower. 40 k!/2 hour.

New Life.

Visited around 1:30 pm on a Wednesday. Place was busy, lineup was maybe 15 girls a few to my taste but they didn't seem very enthusiastic so I moved on.

[MaliBog420]

Their website is down and I was wondering if any of you know if its closed -- its a bit out of the way and I don't want to have to go all the way there to find its closed.

[KingAmongKings]

I found tinder to be a great resource there as you may not even have to pay depending on your looks and personality. Also, there are a lot of web sources you can use just by googling. They have back page there too although I never used it. After about ten pm in Parque Lleras there is always at least a few working girls. Just treat them right and they will make your night unforgettable.

For the casas there is some amazing guy who made a map of all the casas. Not sure who did that, but mad props to him. Look under Medellin lists as opposed to Medellin reports. A google map of all casas, street hookers, strip bars etc are there. There are some minor inaccuracies ie prices / hours, but it is a pretty amazing resource and mostly accurate.

As for the low IQ individuals who say RTFF, they mess up our great resource and fill it with RTFF posts instead of valuable information. Apparently this never occurred to them as they fill the forum with ignorance. Personally, I think every single one of them should be banned from using this site, but unfortunately stupidity is a part of life that is unavoidable. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I will answer them to the best of my ability.

Have fun!

King.


Hey all,

Never been to Colombia but I'm interested. But. How do you all know where to go and where to find girls? Particularly these "love casas. " Is it easy to find working girls? Is it everywhere you go in one particular area of Medellin or do you really have to do a lot of research? Any pointers?

[Judd]

Once you get into the city, assuming you have a smartphone, your weather app should be fairly accurate. With that being said, it tends to overstate the rain. At 5:00 in the PM, there was supposed to be a 90% chance of rain. It hasn't rained a lick this evening.

Late,

Judd.

[SavePros321]

As for the low IQ individuals who say RTFF, they mess up our great resource and fill it with RTFF posts instead of valuable information. Apparently this never occurred to them as they fill the forum with ignorance. Personally, I think every single one of them should be banned from using this site, but unfortunately stupidity is a part of life that is unavoidable. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I will answer them to the best of my ability.
Seems like you are new here, but RTFF is pretty standard for ALL of ISG. There is a treasure-trove of info written by countless mongers that have come before you. The purpose of this forum is to dive deep into the info, and THEN asks questions about anything that is not quite clear to you. It at least shows appreciation for other vets time when we see that you at least attempted to educate yourself before coming here and asking the same questions that have been answered 20 times in one month.

Stick around for a while. You'll soon grow tired of the same post every other week saying essentially "Hey, I'm a lazy fuck who can't be bothered to read about the place I've already booked a flight to. Can somebody spoon feed me all of the information I need to know? I'm arriving tomorrow."

We (vets) do appreciate you taking it upon yourself to let all of the future lazy fucks know that they can explode your inbox with the same questions seeking the same info they were too lazy to research for themselves. Actually, Colombian Jake built an entire business model off of the exact same concept....

[Combo]

Seems like you are new here, but RTFF is pretty standard for ALL of ISG. There is a treasure-trove of info written by countless mongers that have come before you. The purpose of this forum is to dive deep into the info, and THEN asks questions about anything that is not quite clear to you. It at least shows appreciation for other vets time when we see that you at least attempted to educate yourself before coming here and asking the same questions that have been answered 20 times in one month.

Stick around for a while. You'll soon grow tired of the same post every other week saying essentially "Hey, I'm a lazy fuck who can't be bothered to read about the place I've already booked a flight to. Can somebody spoon feed me all of the information I need to know? I'm arriving tomorrow."

We (vets) do appreciate you taking it upon yourself to let all of the future lazy fucks know that they can explode your inbox with the same questions seeking the same info they were too lazy to research for themselves. Actually, Colombian Jake built an entire business model off of the exact same concept....Well said!

[Black Page]

Actually, Colombian Jake built an entire business model off of the exact same concept....But at least he was paid for that!

[Black Page]

As for the low IQ individuals who say RTFF, they mess up our great resource and fill it with RTFF posts instead of valuable information. Apparently this never occurred to them as they fill the forum with ignorance. Personally, I think every single one of them should be banned from using this site, but unfortunately stupidity is a part of life that is unavoidable.Low IQ is demonstrated by those who do not realize that lot of valuable information is available for free here, usually posted by those who write "RTFF" after years of non-trivial contributions, understandably irritated by the new guy who fresh-fresh comes and just says "Hey I am too busy to waste time reading here please send me a summary".

By the way, I note that bombastic nicknames are often inversely proportionate to the amount of information posted before.


PS:
There is no bottom limit. For everyone's enjoyment, I wish to share this post of a "high-IQ" guy who made his debut on the KL Thread as follows (exact quote):
I request mongers to PM me digits of Ladies in Kuala Lumpur area, I like it more when I know a lady pretty well in advance.
Thanks.

[SavePros321]

Low IQ is demonstrated by those who do not realize that lot of valuable information is available for free here, usually posted by those who write "RTFF" after years of non-trivial contributions, understandably irritated by the new guy who fresh-fresh comes and just says "Hey I am too busy to waste time reading here please send me a summary".
Another thing we often forget is that those same "Hey, I'm new here! Gimme, gimme gimme!" lazy fucks often like to append their pleas with "I promise to post a trip report and pics once I get back!" And guys like KingAmongKings will fall for that carrot being dangled in front of them.

Of course once the lazy fucks get spoon fed all the info they can handle, you never hear from them again.

Post count has also been a very good predictor as well. If I see a person firing off a barrage of questions (that have been answered countless times before) as their first-ever post on ISG, then I don't take them with any seriousness.

[Paulie97]

Seems like you are new here, but RTFF is pretty standard for ALL of ISG. There is a treasure-trove of info written by countless mongers that have come before you. The purpose of this forum is to dive deep into the info, and THEN asks questions about anything that is not quite clear to you. It at least shows appreciation for other vets time when we see that you at least attempted to educate yourself before coming here and asking the same questions that have been answered 20 times in one month.We aren't personal secretaries or nursemaids here.

[Judd]

Hola Dudes,

Been here a couple of days in MDE. First couple of nights I stayed at Hotel Lyods in the Patio Bonito section of Poblado. Nice small hotel. While I didn't bring any chicas back to my room, probably wouldn't be problem since it was a young dude manning the desk at night. Awesome rain shower. Negatives were the breakfast wasn't that great, and the bed was very firm. Round 180 k per night.

Now, I'm at the Mansion (M2) for the weekend. I think I may be the only one staying at the upper mansion. Pretty cool setup. Reminds me of a Hostel with an open common area, full size kitchen, and a pool. Rooms are simple but functional.

I went down to the bar at M1 round 8:00 in the PM. About six chicas and me. Chatted with two chicas who were cousins. Took the thicker one, Maritza, for 150 k. Big bolt ONS, and a killer ass! Nice session wit no drama. Great way to start the weekend!

[RudDock]

Low IQ for me is demonstrated by people who tell others how they are supposed to behave.