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Great post!
Are we done with ATM talk yet? LOL 😂.Maybe not. LOL.
On my last trip I let Bank of America know what dates I'd be there using my debit / credit cards. 2nd day there my ATM would not work in my usual machines in Hotel Nutribara. I went back and forth between the 2 machine, zip, went looking for some other machines, getting desperate, nada. Turned out I paid $5 for each attempt, for over $50 in charges. Called BkAm and after a 45 min hold on the weekend, they said they killed my card due to "suspicious activity". In the city I told them I'd be in, on the dates I said I'd be there and the suspicious activity were cash withdraws using my pin at ATM's WTF! Lesson, bring a good amount of cash also, and several cards. Actually had my work account card also and it wouldn't work at all, also let BkAm know I'd have that card on the trip, they couldn't tell me why it wasn't working.
It never ends.
Great post!
Are we done with ATM talk yet? LOL 😂.
I will be taking my first trip out to MDE for 3 weeks. This will be my first trip and it will begin on the last week of June. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect thanks to this forum. The biggest weakness in my game plan for now is my Facebook contacts are rather limited. Anyone with an established FB network willing to share please PM me.
Also, anyone know if the Mansion usually throws a 4th of July party? I didn't see any mention of one in last year's posts around this time but I was hoping there would be a party kinda like the one they do on Halloween.
Anyway, I look forward to this trip and I will try to post a report when I can in order to pay it forward for all the good info provided in this forum that helped me plan a trip.
ColombiaLover
06-18-17, 19:38
Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsiders. What a deal! Jejejej.
I will be taking my first trip out to MDE for 3 weeks. This will be my first trip and it will begin on the last week of June. I have a pretty good idea of what to expect thanks to this forum. The biggest weakness in my game plan for now is my Facebook contacts are rather limited. Anyone with an established FB network willing to share please PM me.
Also, anyone know if the Mansion usually throws a 4th of July party? I didn't see any mention of one in last year's posts around this time but I was hoping there would be a party kinda like the one they do on Halloween.
Anyway, I look forward to this trip and I will try to post a report when I can in order to pay it forward for all the good info provided in this forum that helped me plan a trip.
Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsiders. What a deal! Jejejej.Yea pretty sure I'd rather take the 190 k and spend it on the hottest girl at FaseDos or or 2 from a Centro strip club or have 6 different redlight girls at 30 k each.
El Mechanico
06-18-17, 22:36
Mansion 4th of July party is on July 2. Don't ask! Jejeje.
170 mil for guests. 190 mil for outsidersThey have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.
So it is not on the weekend before for us celebrating Canada Day! Ah? (150 years).
Good to know for next year, thanks and enjoy.
They have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.
Yea pretty sure I'd rather take the 190 k and spend it on the hottest girl at FaseDos or or 2 from a Centro strip club or have 6 different redlight girls at 30 k each.For me it's worth the price of admission as I'm new in MDE and it will give me a good chance to meet some of the FB girls in person. I hope. I usually party in Tijuana and there are free "fiestas" there where one can socialize with girls who are usually available for all nighters (8 hrs). I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.
Bancolombia used to be my go to bank until this year. They are not part of the Plus network anymore so my ATM card no longer worked. Davienda and BBBV ATMs work with no fees to use their machines, although Davienda lets you take more out per transaction.
Agree an ATM card is the way to go with the best exchange rate. There are ATMs at airport. Never use money exchangers, their rates are the worst. But it's a good idea to have a couple hundred bucks as back up in case you have trouble with your ATM card.http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/mobile/index.jsp#(page: results, params:(query:'Medellíand, Antioquia, Colombia, COL'.
It's my understanding that Bancolombia is ON the Plus Network, however not every ATM is connected, especially on weekends. For example, in Poblado CC Diez is off the network, however CC Vizcaya in on.
I usually party in Tijuana and there are free "fiestas" there where one can socialize with girls who are usually available for all nighters (8 hrs). I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.Medellin has that too. They are called the strip cubs of Centro. Conejitas will have 30-50 women working on a weekend night. Barre Ejectiva will have 20+ and Maracaibo will have 15+, (depending what time you go, girls roll in all night, with more there after 10) all free to get in. If you don't mind them ringing a bell when you come in. I have pulled all nights from all 3. They all want 50-60 k for the girl to leave, plus what she agrees too. Or you get her # and meet the next day or when she gets off. They have everything from spinners to Colombian Barbies.
That's 60+ women within 3 blocks you can sit and drink with & gauge chemistry. I wouldn't go without some who spoke good Spanish along. And I wouldn't dress up to much, bad places to be sporting a Rolex or get too drunk or flash a wad etc. And after dark I would cab, not walk. I mean I walk, but my hotel is right between the clubs and I lived in Latin America for 5 years and speak good Spanish etc.
I'm neutral on the subject but it is worthwhile to point / remind that Google Maps blurs faces and license plates, and it is not valid to compare a red light district to an amusement park. In case the latter point is not clear, put yourself in the situation of having to explain your presence in a video of a red light district versus your appearance at an amusement park.I was not comparing anything. I was responding to the original post that stated "It is just rude and bad manners to film or take pictures of anyone without their knowledge and consent. Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances. " There was no mention of red-light districts. "Anywhere, any time, under any circumstances" includes amusement parks and red-light districts, without distinction.
Mr Enternational
06-19-17, 11:01
For me it's worth the price of admission as I'm new in MDE and it will give me a good chance to meet some of the FB girls in person. I like to mingle and try to gage their attitude before going all in.If you already know them from facebook, why would you have to go to a party to meet them in person? 190 K is a lot just to mingle with hookers that you already almost know. There are so many hookers in Medellin that this would be a waste of money. Or why not just go on a normal day where it costs a lot less? And some people think it is ridiculous that some casas charge 2000 pesos or that you have to buy a beer to see their lineup.
UltraHappy
06-19-17, 12:27
If you already know them from facebook, why would you have to go to a party to meet them in person? 190 K is a lot just to mingle with hookers that you already almost know. There are so many hookers in Medellin that this would be a waste of money. Or why not just go on a normal day where it costs a lot less? And some people think it is ridiculous that some casas charge 2000 pesos or that you have to buy a beer to see their lineup.What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.
http://www.visa.com/atmlocator/mobile/index.jsp#(page: results, params:(query:'Medelland, Antioquia, Colombia, COL'.
It's my understanding that Bancolombia is ON the Plus Network, however not every ATM is connected, especially on weekends. For example, in Poblado CC Diez is off the network, however CC Vizcaya in on.Thanks, that explains why I can get cash from some ATMs but not others on the weekend.
Hasideas Tao
06-19-17, 21:00
Carrera 35 #7-65? Are you sure this is correct?
Seems like a strange address for El Centro. According to Google maps this address pops up in el poblado across from the hostal.
These are the addresses from the map at which there was no casas.
Sarita, Calle 55 #43-72.
?Name, Carrera 35 # 7-65.
This one is not on the Map.
Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 No 45 the 104.
Please add it.
They have the party on the Sunday before the 4th when the 4th is on a weekday! No mystery there!
Food and drinks (beer & water only, I believe) included. I went last year, very skeptical, but actually had a pretty good time!
The bikini competition was almost worth the price of admission!
El Mechanico.Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.
Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.Answer: I doubt it. For a more definitive answer, contact Hotel M and ask.
What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.Agreed. 170 k if you're already a guest there is absurd. I would probably just leave the house for the day. Though if it's Sunday, there's not as much going around the city.
MedellinGringo
06-20-17, 03:59
What is even worse is that they are charging almost the same cover price for their own hotel guests. Yes, I understand that drinks and food are included in the cover price (at least until their supplies supposedly run out), but shit, for someone like me who doesn't really drink, I'd have to eat a shit ton of caviar and truffles to make it worth that cover charge. It just seems really odd to me to charge hotel guests for the privilege of hanging out by the pool, an area that we would normally have free access too. Granted, their photos of last year's July 4th party do show around 20 chicas in attendance in the group photo, so that suggests a good attendance from the chica side (at least those who weren't taken to the room at that time).
The only way I would go to that party is if I hadn't already lined up my chicas from my previous days there and needed a convenient quick line-up so-to-speak for some quick introductions. Otherwise, I would be inclined to boycott. I could understand a more reasonable cover charge, but 170 k for hotel guests sounds quite simply, excessive to me.A guest paying 170 K cover charge is a rip off. Because the hotel doesn't stop you from going to the pool or meeting the women if you don't pay. The only thing you can't do is drink or eat their crappy food.
But if was in Medellin and didn't have a long list of women already lined up. I'd pay the 190 K to go to the party.
For one thing. There isn't going to be anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon than go to this party. I'd be in and out in about an hour. I'd get the contact info of every hot chick in the place and pull the hottest one back to my place to have my own private pool party.
Even if you have half the women at the party on your facebook already. It just saves so much time to be able to see them in person and chat them up a bit. Instead of calling each and everyone over to your place and waiting around for them to show up just to find out they aren't as hot in person or you lack chemistry with them.
The Mansion can be a huge time saver.
El Mechanico
06-20-17, 16:34
Question being the amature photographer is it ok to take photos during the bikini contest.It was not a problem last year. I sat on the right of the 'stage' and had my phone camera and video catching all the hot ones as they danced & exited the 'Stage'! Nobody ever told me a thing!
El Mechanico.
For one thing. There isn't going to be anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon than go to this party.I don't know about that, the redlight block girls are out on Sunday and one of the hottest chicks I met in Medellin I pulled from Conejitas around 6 pm on a Sunday.
The drinks are cheap and there's usually a diamond in the deep rough, but gentlemen do not get drunk alone, these girls can be cagey.
UltraHappy
06-21-17, 01:00
A guest paying 170 K cover charge is a rip off. Because the hotel doesn't stop you from going to the pool or meeting the women if you don't pay. The only thing you can't do is drink or eat their crappy food.
Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.
MedellinGringo
06-21-17, 02:40
Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.The mansion is full of guys that will book a room for the 4 of July party next year when they are down there this 4th of July.
And they will gladly pay the 56 bucks just to support the place.
El Mechanico
06-21-17, 16:23
Really? If that's the case, then I don't understand why a hotel guest would ever pay the $56 cover charge just for some drinks and food. I mean, you can already order in food to-go from a dozen restaurants via taxi right to the hotel. I mean, hell, I'd just order a to-go dinner straight to the hotel instead. That would be way cheaper than paying an insane $56 for their food. I'd rather spend my money on the chicas than waste money on a ridiculous cover charge. Heck, you could even get the taxi driver to stop off somewhere and buy you some cold ones too for way cheaper than this cover price.I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!
El Mechanico.
Stinky Squid
06-21-17, 21:45
Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?
I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal booking.com site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.
Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?
YippieKayay
06-21-17, 21:57
However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from RioThere's a thread here on this forum for 'The Mansion' or Casa Blanca Medellin. There are actually two hotels. They're in El Poblado.
I don't recommend centro for your first time unless you know your way around.
UltraHappy
06-21-17, 23:51
I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!!
El Mechanico.You clearly misunderstood my post. My post was about those who are already staying at the hotel as guests, that is, those who can already attend the party for no extra fee as pointed out below.
The fee for non-hotel guests is 190 k which is totally fair and reasonable.
My post was merely pointing out the absurdity of why a hotel guest who can already attend the party for free would pay $56 solely for some food and drinks (especially if the hotel guest for example didn't drink) - and especially when such hotel guest can order in food directly to the hotel.
So, relax, calm down, no need to get all bent out of shape. All is right and wonderful in the world.
Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.
I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal booking.com site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.3. Having at least 2 girls in your bed every night isn't going to happen. It might happen once. Then the next morning, after you realize how much was stolen, plus how much of a mini-bar bill they ran up, you will realize how dumb that was. This is especially true if you're picking up women in Centro.
Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?4. You should be in a place where someone will slap you every time you are about to make a serious mistake.
If you want what you are used to in Rio, go to Rio. Medellin is not Rio.
You have 3 nights and you're planning 3 weeks worth of activities. Strip clubs, casas, streetwalkers and prepagos. Cut your list in half and maybe you can have a good time. Prepagos, if they do show, they'll be late, and they won't come to Centro. They became prepagos to get out of Centro. Streetwalkers come with their own set of issues, and you're liable to end up with one who has some unexpected equipment. Plus Centro is a really good place to have really bad experiences, if you don't know what you are doing.
Guys, I did do my research with various lists, but they don't answer my questions.
I have 4 days and 3 nights in Medellin which I want to use to the maximum, cutting out any annoying time wasters.
I want to be close to strip clubs where the girls are dancing ideally one my bar or table. Luna Lunera sounds like fun. But may be I check out one club every night. Which ones are the best with the best girls and the best, wildest girl performances / shows?
I also think that Centro near the museum should be fun to pick up chicas during the day or early evening. And either picked up or called in, I want to stuff my nightly bed full with girls, at least 2. I don't want to have one hotel to stay and others to play. That's a waste of time. However, I would really like to stay in a love motel the entire time, the way that I am used to from Rio, where you can book them through normal booking.com site. I want some play things, and definitely mirrors around the bed. And I want them with a certain routine regarding chicas, so they can just show up and the front calls you up if you expect, you come down and get her or even better, she comes right up to the room. No hassles.
What is the best hotel for this which I can book and be done with? It should be walking distance from the major action center. Mirror around the bed. Routinely deal with chicas coming in at any time of night or day with or without me.
Finally I notice that I might not even be sure about the area. I thought centro would be good, but I see some prepagos announcing they come to a range of areas in the south not including the centro. May be I should be in a different area? El Poblado perhaps?Here's a list of Love hotels in Medellin, there is a drop down list to see them all.
http://sexosentido.co/hotel-3d-suite-medellin/
Closest to Centro hot spots is Eros and Hotel Spazios. The neighborhood is kinda scary around Eros late at night. Like Dawn of the Dead scary.
3 D Suites looks like it has nice rooms but haven't been and it's about 20 blocks from the Centro Action.
Hawaii Suite looks nice too and is about 10 blocks to the action.
I stay in Hotel Botero because it is 2 blocks from 3 good strip clubs and 2 redlight blocks, you have to book a room for 2 or 3 if you want overnight guests. If you stay there check out the roof top bar, opens at 11:30 am.
Strip Clubs, I like FaseDos for super hot ones but not very cheap to hang out there, downtown I like Conijitas and Barre Ejectiva for reasonable prices and enough hot girls.
PepolesBuddy
06-22-17, 01:35
You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music..I'm traveling abroad, I tell the Chicas that American culture is different and that we Americans leave after 30 minutes upon the agreed upon time if no show. I do this so they know clearly the cultural expectation of timeliness. If they are not responsive if they are late I leave onto other things.
I'm traveling abroad, I tell the Chicas that American culture is different and that we Americans leave after 30 minutes upon the agreed upon time if no show. I do this so they know clearly the cultural expectation of timeliness. If they are not responsive if they are late I leave onto other things.I concur with PeoplesBuddy. If I know I don't have a lot of time, I explicitly tell the girl that I will only wait for her until X hour and if she hasn't arrived by then, I will not be available. I don't usually do this because I'm on vacation and I try not to get to worked up over time. But on the occasions I've done it, I'm batting 1000.
God bless them.
The mansion is full of guys that will book a room for the 4 of July party next year when they are down there this 4th of July.
And they will gladly pay the 56 bucks just to support the place.
Stinky Squid
06-22-17, 03:12
Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel (https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club (https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off (https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Correction: ability to search is not lost. But there are only chatter, no directions. Googling like crazy gets me mixed results. I only have a phone number and I am not even sure about that, because there is another one also found. Carrera 43 x Calle 2 S-50, +57 4 3520217 and even that cannot be found on Google maps propertly. Cr 43A, B, C, then Calle 2 doesn't exist between Calle 1b and Calle 3.
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?Colombia and Brazil have about a identical homicide rate.
YippieKayay
06-22-17, 03:20
Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3119-Casa-Blanca-Medellin
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/
That's the place.
Husker Dude
06-22-17, 03:20
Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel (https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club (https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off (https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?Casa blanca or the mansion is officially www. hotelmedellinplaza.com US phone # is 1-312-546-4301 email: info@hotelmedellinm.com.
Thanks for your advice guys.
Regarding the Hotels first. You mentioned The Mansion and Casa Blanca. I can't find either of them for sure.
Casa Blanca resolves on Google Maps to a White House Hostel (https://goo.gl/maps/GZPSzA87J4G2) -- a fucking Hostel? I am looking for privacy, not dormitory group sex So I guess there is a misunderstanding. And The Mansion I can only find two suspect places that might not have anything to do with what you're talking about.
Mansion resolves to a Mansion Club (https://goo.gl/maps/LvH52FdvRyo) no Hotel. And even the club seems strange as the web site resolves to industrial goods. Then there is Medellin Mansion, way way off (https://goo.gl/maps/dq72UCkpHhr).
I have tried searching, somehow the Forum lost the ability to search only a single thread. And there is so much chatter that reading every page is impossible. Any other pointers?
Oh, and regarding danger in el Centro, is it worse than Centro Rio de J.?Search Hotel M Medellin.
The Tall Man
06-22-17, 05:31
You need to do more research.
1. It is impossible to avoid annoying time wasters in Colombia. Wasting time is the Colombian national pastime. Waitresses, cashiers, taxi drivers and anyone else you deal with will waste your time. If you have women come to your hotel, 30 minutes late to you is 2 hours early to them. It's not intentional. Nobody here is in a big hurry.
2. No recent reports on Luna Lunera indicate it would be fun, unless a few disinterested women sitting around ignoring you is your idea of a good time. The strip clubs with the best, wildest shows aren't in Colombia. Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.
3. Having at least 2 girls in your bed every night isn't going to happen. It might happen once. Then the next morning, after you realize how much was stolen, plus how much of a mini-bar bill they ran up, you will realize how dumb that was. This is especially true if you're picking up women in Centro.
4. You should be in a place where someone will slap you every time you are about to make a serious mistake.
If you want what you are used to in Rio, go to Rio. Medellin is not Rio.
You have 3 nights and you're planning 3 weeks worth of activities. Strip clubs, casas, streetwalkers and prepagos. Cut your list in half and maybe you can have a good time. Prepagos, if they do show, they'll be late, and they won't come to Centro. They became prepagos to get out of Centro. Streetwalkers come with their own set of issues, and you're liable to end up with one who has some unexpected equipment. Plus Centro is a really good place to have really bad experiences, if you don't know what you are doing.Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music. My last visit in April and May of this year I visited the best 2 or 3 strip clubs and was terribly disappointed, lets face it Colombia does a lot very good but strip clubs is a total waste of time and pesos.
TTM.
YippieKayay
06-22-17, 06:46
How bizarre. So before my last trip at the end of April I got on Colombian Cupid and didn't really like the experience. Most women immediately asked if I wanted a serious relationship. Only one or two cuties. Only one prepago, really. I'm a reasonable man but I'm not wasting my time having a relationship with some random Colombian woman in her 30's who has kids and wants me to support her.
So I'm going to be in Medellin next week and decided to take people's advice and check out Latin American Cupid. It's the same software running the site with the same interface. I imagine it's exactly the same company. The only difference this time is I went straight for the platinum instead of gold membership. I did so by mistake. I'm not sure if going Platinum is more helpful? Does it say I have big pockets? I am getting much better results. I got a few prepagos to give me their numbers and a couple of cuties who look like they have a regular job. Still, 9/10 women who try to match with me are either not Colombian or not my type. Nonetheless, it's a constant stream of interest and I think Platinum even means they can contact me first without paying.
So why is Latin American Cupid better populated? Does it get more marketing in Colombia? I highly recommend it if you want have some numbers ahead of time and speak Spanish.
Mr Enternational
06-22-17, 10:26
I think Platinum even means they can contact me first without paying.
So why is Latin American Cupid better populated?The only difference with platinum is that you can do video chat (not sure why you would need that) and your profile is pasted at the top of the page when you are connected or when you show interest to someone. With any level of membership the girls can contact you first. They always try to make you choose the platinum option as default the same way they used to make recurring payment by default. The reason I use LAC versus single country cupids is because I travel all over and do not just want my pot to contain chicks from just one country. I even get a lot of chicks in the US from LAC.
El Mechanico
06-22-17, 15:52
You clearly misunderstood my post. My post was about those who are already staying at the hotel as guests, that is, those who can already attend the party for no extra fee as pointed out below.
The fee for non-hotel guests is 190 k which is totally fair and reasonable.
My post was merely pointing out the absurdity of why a hotel guest who can already attend the party for free would pay $56 solely for some food and drinks (especially if the hotel guest for example didn't drink) - and especially when such hotel guest can order in food directly to the hotel.
So, relax, calm down, no need to get all bent out of shape. All is right and wonderful in the world.MY Bad UH. I did misunderstand. I was simply "defending the Mansion" but probably got a little to aggressive about it!! I stayed at the Mansion my first 2 trips to the MDE & could not have had a better time. I would not have enjoyed MDE / Colombia near as much had it not been for the Mansion. Ergo, I was defending it. The 4th of July party was the highlight of my first trip & it was 150 k COP last year. Yeah, I didn't agree with it & didn't even know I could have attended for free, but I paid it & ate and drank without worrying about it.
That being said, I feel no further need to stay there on my next visit & will rent an AirBnb in Lleras.
However, I see way to many people just flat out bashing the Mansion. My thoughts are, if you don't like the Mansion, don't stay there & leave them, their guests, the chicas & their party cover charges alone. It's that simple.
I hate the casas because I think they are nasty & I doubt the linens are changed out after every session. I stated as much in my trip reports. But I don't jump into every post & bash them the way some people do about the Mansion. The Mansion is a perfect fit for some every time they go. There were guys that were there both times I went. They refuse to leave. It was a perfect fit for me on my first 2 visits to the MDE from researching these boards. I doubt I'll ever go back but who knows.
Any way, no offense intended & apologies extended if I did offend you.
Peace & safe Mongering UH!
Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music. My last visit in April and May of this year I visited the best 2 or 3 strip clubs and was terribly disappointed, lets face it Colombia does a lot very good but strip clubs is a total waste of time and pesos.
TTM.In my last couple of trips to Medellin, and actually over the years, the el Centro strips clubs have been very fruitful actually.
Again I'm referring to the el Centro clubs, and not the more plastic, high end clubs.
No need to buy lots of overpriced drinks, one is fine, and one for your chosen muchacha as well, if one is chosen.
As we all know, in a casa, it's a presentation, a quick choice, and off you go.
The strip club gives you a chance to chat and bond and feel the chemistry.
I enjoy the process much more and have had great success.
I disagree that the Colombian strip club "is a total waste of time and pesos".
I believe just the opposite actually.
Depends on your ability or desire to chit chat and bond I guess.
If you just want to quickly pick a girl and go bang, I guess the club would be a waste.
Not for me though.
The US strip clubs are actually the wastes.
Designed to grab your bucks, and leave you unfulfilled.
UltraHappy
06-22-17, 16:03
I would not have enjoyed MDE / Colombia near as much had it not been for the Mansion. Ergo, I was defending it. The 4th of July party was the highlight of my first trip & it was 150 k COP last year. Yeah, I didn't agree with it & didn't even know I could have attended for free, but I paid it & ate and drank without worrying about it.
I agree. I had a good time there as well, and I'm looking forward to staying there again for my next upcoming trip to Colombia. The last time I visited though was during an off-time of the year, and there weren't that many chicas visiting Charlie's unfortunately. It was great though for meeting like-minded travelers who I could hook up with for our hunting forays into the city during the days. I'm sure holiday weekends (American holidays that is) are much better attended there but you just have to book fairly early to be assured a room on those weekends (like 3 months in advance sometimes).
Mr Enternational
06-22-17, 18:47
Spot on with your comments! The most poignant is that Colombian strip clubs are just casas with overpriced drinks and music.Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer in Troya. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.
YippieKayay
06-22-17, 18:54
Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.He means places like La Isla and Luna Lunera that are modelled after north american strip clubs. Remember the guy paying 800 k to a chica from La Isla to "hang out" with him in the evenings? Haha. There's also Isis in Cartagena which is always going to charge you the equivalent of $100 USD for an hour with a chica (back in May it was 280 k to fuck a girl) and all the alcohol is priced twice as much as it is anywhere else.
You're thinking of the centro strip clubs which are different.
In my last couple of trips to Medellin, and actually over the years, the el Centro strips clubs have been very fruitful actually.
Again I'm referring to the el Centro clubs, and not the more plastic, high end clubs.
I disagree that the Colombian strip club "is a total waste of time and pesos".Totally agree, out of Casas and Prepagos and Seeking Arrangements and street girls and Centro strip clubs I much prefer the Centro strip clubs, at least Coneijtas and Barre Ejectiva and sometimes Maracaibo. And the street girls come in 2nd for me. LOL I did have a lot of fun at Fase II but my mostly I think because wingman picked up the rather large bar tab and the girl I picked was spectacularly hot IMO. (and the condom shredded so we were bareback without knowing it, was my 1st time with Kimono condoms, I was like"WOW, these things do feel good! LOL).
But hard to beat no cover, cheap drinks, lots of cute girls with more showing up all the time and the option to leave with the girl if you want to pay the multa or go upstairs and do it there (although I prefer back at my hotel, those clubs get kind of hot) I was surprised when at least 2 girls turned my buddy down on a TLN deal at Conejitas on a Sat night though, I did tell him to just up the amount he was offering if he really wanted that particular girl, but he just moved down the line till one said "Yes". (I think I told him to start at 250 k which may have been a tad low on a packed Sat night for the A-team girls).
If you expect a US type strip club with lots of pole tricks and wild outfits and choreography you may be disappointed but if you think of it as a night time Casa where you can drink and sit with the girls and see them naked on stage first and have the option to leave with the girl for TLN or do them there you ought to be happy. At least it does it for me. And the top girls at the Centro Clubs could easily work at Fase II or Isla etc.
He means places like La Isla and Luna Lunera that are modelled after north american strip clubs. Remember the guy paying 800 k to a chica from La Isla to "hang out" with him in the evenings? Haha. There's also Isis in Cartagena which is always going to charge you the equivalent of $100 USD for an hour with a chica (back in May it was 280 k to fuck a girl) and all the alcohol is priced twice as much as it is anywhere else.
You're thinking of the centro strip clubs which are different.Fase Dos still charges 20 k for a beer (domestic or import). Mixed drinks are more. Of course the El Centro clubs are cheaper. I believe 6 kish.
Which strip clubs are these? Because the ones that I go to a pint of liquor is only $10, versus back in the States where one drink is going to cost you more than that.
When I was in Bogota in April I distinctly remember paying 5K ($1.65) for a beer in Troya. Then I went upstairs and fucked a chick for 60K. I am not understanding where the ripoff is.Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.
Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.
Stinky Squid
06-22-17, 21:43
Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something?
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?
UltraHappy
06-22-17, 21:57
It's not that complicated. Just read every report here and under the "Casa Blanca" thread for the past 3 years.
You want to stay at M1. Nothing happens at M2. You would only stay at M2 if M1 was totally booked out or if you were staying long term and wanted a cheaper room. They'll give you a good deal on a room if you're staying there for 2 months straight for example. M2 guests have access to M1 of course.
The girls arrive around 7-8 pm in the evening usually at the bar downstairs. M1 doesn't usually get too rowdy, so you should be ok in most of the rooms. If you get the cheapest room in M1 under the kitchen, you will be woken up every morning at 8 am as guys show up for the free breakfast.
In addition to reading these forums, you can hook up with other guys you meet at the hotel. Breakfast is also a good opportunity for making plans with other fellows to go out together into town, either during the day or later in the evening.
You will have a good time at Fase Dos. Fairly reasonable prices and decent line-up.
If you go to Centro, only visit during the day and make sure you go with a couple experienced guys -- just to be on the somewhat safer side.
Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something? They are not usually just handing out by the pool, although you might see some there on a fairly busy weekend.
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?
Husker Dude
06-22-17, 22:27
Hehe you guys talking about the 2nd of July party and I am checking out on the 1st of July. Missed that one. But hope that there isn't nothing on normal days.
Now the Mansion is not cheap compared to other hotels, so I hope the added comfort of willing company on the premises is worth it. Is there a report that describes how things work there? I mean are there always girls hanging out at the pool or something?
Which one to choose, M1 or M2? M1 looks like the center of the action. Does M2 have nothing hot going on? Is the pool only at M1? I am wondering if I should do M2 anyway, because if they have party with loud music all day and night I get very annoyed if I have to get up early the next day and don't get to sleep when I want.
As for the clubs, I don't compare anything with USA Strip Clubs because I never have been in one. Why would I participate in a rip off scheme that turns you on and leaves you hanging? I have read in forums and in a Spanish forum that there is some action going on, some dancing. The guy spoke of Fase II.
When you guys talk about the Strip Clubs in El Centro, which ones do you mean? Because Fase II is there too.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?Everything Ultrahappy said is correct. There is no action at M2 unless you bring a girl there. It does have a pool. At M1 there are usually a half dozen or so girls hanging at the pool daytime. In the cave at night, there are from 6-20 girls coming in & out all the time. It is great to meet guys at breakfast & lots make casa runs day or strip clubs late night if you don't pull a mansion girl. Sat. Nights are usually good for strip clubs, as it is "date" night as the chicas go out with their SO. Fase Dos is safe. The clubs in el Centro like barre executive & Maricabo are iffy. My buddy & I went there one night & the taxi driver signaled to us pointing to his eyes. We went in & were the only foreigners in the place. My buddy is a prison guard & did not feel safe there, so we didn't stay long. LOL I arrive on the 29th at M1. Look for the older asian guy.
Everything Ultrahappy said is correct. There is no action at M2 unless you bring a girl there. It does have a pool. At M1 there are usually a half dozen or so girls hanging at the pool daytime. In the cave at night, there are from 6-20 girls coming in & out all the time. It is great to meet guys at breakfast & lots make casa runs day or strip clubs late night if you don't pull a mansion girl. Sat. Nights are usually good for strip clubs, as it is "date" night as the chicas go out with their SO. Fase Dos is safe. The clubs in el Centro like barre executive & Maricabo are iffy. My buddy & I went there one night & the taxi driver signaled to us pointing to his eyes. We went in & were the only foreigners in the place. My buddy is a prison guard & did not feel safe there, so we didn't stay long. LOL I arrive on the 29th at M1. Look for the older asian guy.I've been the only Gringo in the centro clubs every time I went with no problems, but I do speak Spanish and don't mind places that seem a little iffy if you haven't traveled to a lot of 3rd world destinations. I have been every night of the week also with cute girls available all nights, more as it gets later, but did pull my fav at 6 pm on a Sunday at Conejitas.
FaseDos will cost you 2 to 3+ times what a Centro club will in drinks and women. But they do have a hot lineup. But 3 really hot ones at a Centro club Vs 10 super hot at FaseII, I only need one. LOL.
Hey fellas,
Before anyone gives the obvious answer that any gym with Paisas will be full of eye candy, I'm just wondering if there are any that stand out perhaps for having an abundance of University girls, MILFs, models, or generally just open to a coffee or "innocent" date after a workout. Conversely, any gyms that should be avoided for whatever reason.
Thanks!
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.
Mr Enternational
06-23-17, 00:35
Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.
Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.I am lost again on this. In the strip clubs that I go to, chicks go on stage and put shaving cream all over their body then get a guy and rub all of their private parts on his face leaving the shaving cream all over him. I actually have pictures with some of the chicks' panties on my head. They also do lesbian shows with the shaving cream. They also have contests. They have a guy come on stage and see how long it will take to make him cum by either riding his dick or sucking him off while he is sitting in a chair. What kind of wild stage show does it take for you guys? Are you wanting them to bring up farm animals as well?
Mr Enternational
06-23-17, 00:52
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?It escapes me as well. I used to live in Rio. Years ago I was walking downtown at dusk and saw a homeless guy breaking out someone's driver's side car window with a broomstick. I didn't say shit to him. I just kept walking past. Other than that I have witnessed nothing. Not to say that it is impossible for something adverse to happen. Back in January I walked from 4X4 to Lapa alone at 10 pm. Again, I didn't see shit and nobody said shit to me.
When walking in downtown Medellin at night all I have seen are a few dope fiends. Never seen them bothering anyone though. As a matter of fact, when we made the video and took the pictures of one of them a couple of years back, we were probably bothering him more than he was bothering us. Maybe it is just creepy to some guys. I recall a couple of stories of foreigners being assaulted, robbed and shot in Poblado being posted here on ISG. I do not recall any stories being posted of the same happening downtown though.
UltraHappy
06-23-17, 01:04
I am lost again on this. In the strip clubs that I go to, chicks go on stage and put shaving cream all over their body then get a guy and rub all of their private parts on his face leaving the shaving cream all over him. I actually have pictures with some of the chicks' panties on my head. They also do lesbian shows with the shaving cream. They also have contests. They have a guy come on stage and see how long it will take to make him cum by either riding his dick or sucking him off while he is sitting in a chair. What kind of wild stage show does it take for you guys? Are you wanting them to bring up farm animals as well?I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.
If Centro Medellin is no worse than Centro Rio de J. Then I guess it's no problem at all. Is it that guys from the US are uber paranoid that everyone is talking how dangerous it all is? Or have any of you been in or witnessed any present danger there?"Medellin is now considered safer than the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medell%C3%ADn#Crime.
It may depend on what you are used to also, if you live in a high-priced gated community suburb in the US it may seem dangerous. If you've been around Latin America enough it seems normal.
In the day, the busy streets seem perfectly safe to me, I am sure their are some muggings and pickpockets, but that's true in most big cities.
I've walked to and from the Centro strip clubs at 1 am, but it's only a block or 2 from my hotel, some of the side streets do look a little iffy.
One date took me on a 2 am smoke run in a cab somewhere in Centro and it was pretty scary outside, no Kandahar but I didn't want to get out of the cab. LOL. Lots of weirdos and homeless vagabonds, one 50 yo+ lady walking down the middle of the road in bra and panties, that was a little bizarre.
I have done many laps of the redlight blocks (vid links a few pages back) with no problems. But I don't wear a expensive watch or have a Nikon around my neck, or flash a wad or Galaxy 8, also don't dress up unless I am taking a cab to FaseII, dress more like I am on my way to Home Depot.
Husker Dude
06-23-17, 02:55
I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.Yes, Please tell us where Mr. International. I've seen that on my trips to Tijuana at the Hong Kong club, but no where else.
I admit to only having a little experience in Medellin. They do this stuff in the Colombian strip clubs? I did not know that.
What are the top three strip clubs in Medellin that feature these kinds of shows? I mean, is this public blow job a regular thing in the Colombian strip clubs? How often does this occur? Never heard about that or seen it in Medellin.
I wouldn't mind dropping by 1 or 2 of these spots during my next trip down there.In FASE II strip club there is a girl that uses a dildo on herself. And she lets guys dildo her also and some crazy dudes will eat her out. She looks OK, but there is no way I would choose to bang her. I got tired of going to FASE II myself. I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and I haven't been there. I used to go there a lot. They have lots of women there that dance and some don't dance that you can take them next door for sex. There are several other good strip clubs in Medellin but I just haven't gone to them in awhile.
I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and one of the first things I was told by a friend who lives here, is Abydos is closed. I guess it's been closed about 6 weeks now. I used to visit that place once in awhile. My friend bought 2 apartments in the middle of Abydos and Energy. Now one of them is closed. LOL he said the hot looking lady that worked at Abydos started working at Loutron, but I guess maybe she moved again. Me and my friend would have loved to bang her, but she always said no.
Anyways, besides seeing women that I already know, or swapping numbers with gringos, I've been to Energy 5 times now. I never get a GFE anymore. No kissing from any of the 5 girls, and always a CBJ. I used to get about 1/2 of them to kiss and 1/3 of them to BBBJ. Not anymore. I went to the place called Tantra last week and it wasn't bad. It's been a long time since I went there. I was shown only 3 girls and some where busy. Price is 80 K for 30 minutes, 100 K for 45 minutes and 120 K for an hour. I had a good looking lady with a nice body and good fucking, but once again no kissing and CBJ. Maybe I'm not as handsome as I use to be. From my previous lady friends I still get kissing, but only a Venezuelan lady I know does BBBJ. Medellin is starting to not be my heaven anymore.
Tantra website: http://tantramedellin.com/ It is oddly very close to where Pablo Escobar was killed. You can see where Pablo Escobar was killed and walk to bang some ladies.
I was in Medellin this week on a business trip and took advantage to get in some hobbying. As I only had evenings free, I hit up Energy, my go-to spot in the city. Prices haven't changed since my last visit in December; still 140 K for one hour. The lineup was good; about 10 chicas including a number of 8's and 9's. I sessioned twice with Julieta, a gorgeous Negra who I'd had fun with on a previous visit. She really gets into the action and is very responsive if you treat her right. On my third visit this week Julieta was off for the day so I selected Samantha, a youngish Morena with a cute smile and curly black hair. She is not quite a spinner but has a thin build with teacup sized breasts and a nice ass. Service was excellent, almost GFE. After I coaxed two O's from her through about 15 minutes of DATY I was rewarded with an awesome (and unsolicited) BBBJ (only the 2nd Energy chica from whom I've gotten an uncovered BJ, the other being Julieta). FS was great as well. Multple positions, finishing in K9 with a round of 69 thrown in. I hope she's still around next time I visit.I've been there 5 times in the last 4 weeks. My friend says Samantha is kind of new there and will BBBJ. I haven't seen her working every time I show up. I'm thinking she only works earlier in the days. The other 5 girls I have had there wouldn't kiss or BBBJ.
I've been here in Medellin almost 4 weeks now and one of the first things I was told by a friend who lives here, is Abydos is closed. I guess it's been closed about 6 weeks now. I used to visit that place once in awhile. My friend bought 2 apartments in the middle of Abydos and Energy. Now one of them is closed. LOL he said the hot looking lady that worked at Abydos started working at Loutron, but I guess maybe she moved again. Me and my friend would have loved to bang her, but she always said no.
Anyways, besides seeing women that I already know, or swapping numbers with gringos, I've been to Energy 5 times now. I never get a GFE anymore. No kissing from any of the 5 girls, and always a CBJ. I used to get about 1/2 of them to kiss and 1/3 of them to BBBJ. Not anymore. I went to the place called Tantra last week and it wasn't bad. It's been a long time since I went there. I was shown only 3 girls and some where busy. Price is 80 K for 30 minutes, 100 K for 45 minutes and 120 K for an hour. I had a good looking lady with a nice body and good fucking, but once again no kissing and CBJ. Maybe I'm not as handsome as I use to be. From my previous lady friends I still get kissing, but only a Venezuelan lady I know does BBBJ. Medellin is starting to not be my heaven anymore.
Tantra website: http://tantramedellin.com/ It is oddly very close to where Pablo Escobar was killed. You can see where Pablo Escobar was killed and walk to bang some ladies.I'm not surprised by the closure of Abydos. This place has been in decline for some time now. In my very few visits last year I sessioned only one chica by the name of Pamela who was very good, but in my very last visit late last year for the first time I visited without sessioning anyone and was charged 10 K pesos for viewing a very dismal LU.
I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.
Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.If your Centro is the same El Centro as mine you must have spent all your time sitting on the front steps of the Nutibara Hotel to call el centro safe day and night, by the way I have lived in el centro over the past 7 years, total time about 6 months per year.
I can honestly say, in the last 2 1/2 months in Medellin I have not been a victim or witnessed any present danger in Centro. Based on that I have to conclude that Centro is perfectly safe for tourists all hours of the day and night. I can't imagine that a single person has ever been a victim of a crime there.
Don't worry, have fun and wear lots of jewelry.You do have a weird sense of humor, "wear lots of jewelery".
Luna Lunera across the street is fun and convenient.
I'm not surprised by the closure of Abydos. This place has been in decline for some time now. In my very few visits last year I sessioned only one chica by the name of Pamela who was very good, but in my very last visit late last year for the first time I visited without sessioning anyone and was charged 10 K pesos for viewing a very dismal LU.
Yeah, I think it's obvious, regardless of what the tough guys say here, that el centro, especially at night and on lonely streets, alone, is dangerous.
It's naive to think otherwise.
It's not that you're definitely going to get jumped, but the high potential is there.
And P.S., for the guys talking about Rio, in Brazil, it's the same.
Just because you make a few passes and nothing happens, doesn't make it safe.
No need to avoid Centro. Just be cautious.I agree, I only walk around there in the day on the busy streets, at night if it's more then 2 blocks I'll take a cab.
If you're in El Poblado, the EAFIT University Gym is open to the public. Just tell the guards that you want to use the gym. If I recall correctly, the first visit is even free. A lot of eye candy there. But probably really hard to pull off a pickup. Work out, then have a bite to eat in the cafeteria area.
Hey fellas,
Before anyone gives the obvious answer that any gym with Paisas will be full of eye candy, I'm just wondering if there are any that stand out perhaps for having an abundance of University girls, MILFs, models, or generally just open to a coffee or "innocent" date after a workout. Conversely, any gyms that should be avoided for whatever reason.
Thanks!
If you're in El Poblado, the EAFIT University Gym is open to the public. Just tell the guards that you want to use the gym. If I recall correctly, the first visit is even free. A lot of eye candy there. But probably really hard to pull off a pickup. Work out, then have a bite to eat in the cafeteria area.Thanks for the info Kazeu. Why do you say it would be really hard to pull off a pick up?
Black Page
06-24-17, 18:29
Thanks for the info Kazeu. Why do you say it would be really hard to pull off a pick up?Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?
Black Page
06-24-17, 18:34
"Medellin is now considered safer than the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans."The sad news is that the US cities of Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and New Orleans are now less safer than Medellin LOL.
Ok, it's true Medellin and all Colombia has improved a lot.
Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?Thanks for your response, however, it is laced with assumptions. And you don't even know how fat and ugly I am! While it is true that my upcoming trip is a mongering trip, I will also be looking for a place to stay long-term (beginning in the Fall) and, hence, looking for normal relationships and friendships with. This is why I asked the question. Hence my implying an "innocent" date. We'll see what happens!
Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?Ouch. The truth hurts brother. LOL.
Jeez....
Because EAFIT is a top private university. Because the students of EAFIT have a very high esteem of themselves, are rich, belong to the upper class, are used to stay with their very handsome boyfriends or simple friends, attend parties of the high society in Medellin, mostly have a family behind who pays their studies, study with the aim at becoming a top manager tomorrow, would be disgusted to know that a guy who says "Hello," to them while working out came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.
All such factors make the odds to pick up a girl there small, although P=0 does not exist in nature.
Have I been sharp enough?I have lived in MDE and attended both EAFIT and UPB. EAFIT is like Harvard and UPB is like your State University. Pulling it off is quite difficult and you must run in same circles. If you look like a gringo geezer and act like a gringo geezer than they will pick that up immediately and be quite turned off. Also, EAFIT is a big anti-prepago community, it is posted in a lot of buildings. Unless you are Brad Pitt then I would try to keep it low key as possible.
ColombiaLover
06-25-17, 03:15
I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.
I have lived in MDE and attended both EAFIT and UPB. EAFIT is like Harvard and UPB is like your State University. Pulling it off is quite difficult and you must run in same circles. If you look like a gringo geezer and act like a gringo geezer than they will pick that up immediately and be quite turned off. Also, EAFIT is a big anti-prepago community, it is posted in a lot of buildings. Unless you are Brad Pitt then I would try to keep it low key as possible.
I think you all have it figured out. Stay away from the Mansion on July 4th. That way you save a whopping $56. Go somewhere else & pay $4-5 per drink & $15 for food & that way you don't have to suffer thru the cover charge to watch a bunch of hotties try to out-dirty dance the previous hottie. Better yet, just stay home, drink tap water & don't eat, then on Monday morning you can high 5 yourself for not being $56 lighter. That leaves more hotties to the guys that do fork over the 170 k COP.
I guess if some of why'all weren't bitching, you wouldn't be posting!!
El Mechanico.People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.
You are correct Colombia lover. I happen to know quite a few EAFIT students who could never afford to attend on their own dime are there as part of their employers' tuition reimbursement programs. So it is not just the rich who are there. I also happen to know at least a few there who are in the game. The bottom line is it is not a point and click sort of venue.
I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.
I have been to EAFIT a few times to visit colleagues (hence I cannot risk "fishing" there). It is easier when you are in that world. And, why es, EATIF is big on "anti-prepago," although there are many EAFIT students are prepagos (at least part-time). While the school is for the rich and elite, not everyone their is rich or elite. When you go to the food court, you will see many chicas who bring candies and food to sell. The rich do not behave like that. That said, I'm not saying it's going to be overly easy to pick these girls up unless you are young and good-looking or you look professional. An alternative is to study Spanish there. They have have a very large language institute and lots of chicas can be found there. Best of luck.Your observation is correct on the candy girls. I've seen them both at both schools while attending both for spanish classes. I went to EAFIT for 3 months for spanish. UPB about a month. While in the administrative office, you can see the stickers on their desks and windows at the door "No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT and even more so in 2015. While visiting other friends buildings in Pablado, you can see these stickers on elevators. I've posted back in 2015, not sure on this thread but another about how the locals in Parque LLares are becoming more weary of gringos an prepagos. Now, I'm seeing and hearing of police harassing these interactions. LLeras was where the elite hung out until recently where there has been a lot of gringos engaging these activities and they are not liking this at all. But back to the anti-pregago, yes, it is known but very under the radar. Hell, I remember while in orientation in EAFIT, the assistant dean talking about and saying we don't want the school and MDE to have that reputation in front of 30 new spanish learning students (me being one of the students). They want MDE to be a cultural learning experience. Now the reality, YES, I have pulled a couple of these girls but I did it very descretely. As for the gym, Yes, I too have gone there in EAFIT. Surprisingly nice and while I was there for those months studying spanish, I went before or after class. Yes, there is eye candy and some of them are really nice and friendly. Go to work out and enjoy.
YippieKayay
06-25-17, 10:23
"No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT I think its from this campaign:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QizXSCtK0lI
Unfortunately for them I've seen the same stickers or similar in clubs in parque lleras (in the elevator of one club at least) and the club is full of prepagos on weekdays. They have a point though. I'm not very comfortable picking up a chica in Parque Lleras out in the open. I don't mind it done discreetly in clubs but when they approach your patio seat it makes everything awkward. They should take a page out of Cartagena. The hookers don't come out until late at night in the clock tower plaza and the only people out that late want to party anyway.
I find the "not to sex tourism" campaign almost laughable because it is so over the top. To me, it screams "I'm embarrassed about this so I'm going to take a holier than thou position". I remember seeing different versions of it in Colombia going back to the mid 90's. Of course no country wants to have a Thailand type reputation. I don't think it's positive for anyone to have obnoxious honky tonk behavior going on in view of people who don't want to see it (including me at times when I'm out with business colleagues). I have a problem with the posters and window stickers with high heels and defiant slogans because it just throws it into people's faces unnecessarily. It's as if the people behind the campaign think those stickers are going to work like garlic keeping vampires away. It's just as easy to post a discrete sign saying the business has a right to refuse service to anyone, then quietly turn away the cargo shorts & Harley Davidson tee shirt crowd with provocatively dressed dates with an explanation that all tables are reserved.
Now that Colombia is coming out of FARC era of having a reputation for kidnappings and violence danger (60 Minutes feature in the US and various BBC reports on the subject among others), the government wants its share of tourism dollars from wealthy countries. Like any other tourism, sex tourism generates revenue. And it is a constant as long as there isn't a massive shift in the national economy (see below). Colombia launched several professional international tourism promotion campaigns in the past couple of years. It is trying to grow the industry and prevent sex tourism interfering with that growth.
I think the Colombian government knows it would have to greatly increase social programs to rein in sex tourism. Wealthy sectors have no interest in doing that because it would mean higher taxes and paying their employees higher wages. What the wealthy sectors want is what matters. As long as it doesn't interfere with their peaceful enjoyment of the country, wealthy Colombians are happy to reap the benefits of sex tourism and pretend it doesn't exist.
Your observation is correct on the candy girls. I've seen them both at both schools while attending both for spanish classes. I went to EAFIT for 3 months for spanish. UPB about a month. While in the administrative office, you can see the stickers on their desks and windows at the door "No to Sex Tourism". I noticed this back when I was there in 2014 at EAFIT and even more so in 2015. While visiting other friends buildings in Pablado, you can see these stickers on elevators. I've posted back in 2015, not sure on this thread but another about how the locals in Parque LLares are becoming more weary of gringos an prepagos. Now, I'm seeing and hearing of police harassing these interactions. LLeras was where the elite hung out until recently where there has been a lot of gringos engaging these activities and they are not liking this at all. But back to the anti-pregago, yes, it is known but very under the radar. Hell, I remember while in orientation in EAFIT, the assistant dean talking about and saying we don't want the school and MDE to have that reputation in front of 30 new spanish learning students (me being one of the students). They want MDE to be a cultural learning experience. Now the reality, YES, I have pulled a couple of these girls but I did it very descretely. As for the gym, Yes, I too have gone there in EAFIT. Surprisingly nice and while I was there for those months studying spanish, I went before or after class. Yes, there is eye candy and some of them are really nice and friendly. Go to work out and enjoy.
El Mechanico
06-25-17, 18:35
People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.Ha, sounds like you are jealous they are doing well? Well, there are obviously a lot of "us"! Have fun staying home next Sunday counting the pesos you saved!
El Mechanico.
UltraHappy
06-25-17, 19:00
People like you are the reason why that place is doing well. You don't mind being fleeced.My only regret is that there isn't another Mansion in town to fleece me. I'd love to have more than one option of places that "fleece" me. Other than that, I consider ourselves fortunate that we have this venue here and that it still is able to continue operating despite the many government and community pressures otherwise.
Husker Dude
06-25-17, 19:07
Ha, sounds like you are jealous they are doing well?? Well, there are obviously a lot of "us"!! Have fun staying home next Sunday counting the pesos you saved!!
El Mechanico.I'm part of the " us", staying at the mansion later this week & will be at the party.
Jeez....
came to their beautiful city not to work or to visit Colombia, but mainly to patronize brothels, which he can afford in Colombia but not in his home country.I think for some of us, we can afford it but it is illegal in our home countries.
Go to Loutron, they will fleece you very well. Albeit a little differently than Mansion.
My only regret is that there isn't another Mansion in town to fleece me. I'd love to have more than one option of places that "fleece" me. Other than that, I consider ourselves fortunate that we have this venue here and that it still is able to continue operating despite the many government and community pressures otherwise.
I find the "not to sex tourism" campaign almost laughable because it is so over the top. To me, it screams "I'm embarrassed about this so I'm going to take a holier than thou position". I remember seeing different versions of it in Colombia going back to the mid 90's. Of course no country wants to have a Thailand type reputation. I don't think it's positive for anyone to have obnoxious honky tonk behavior going on in view of people who don't want to see it (including me at times when I'm out with business colleagues). I have a problem with the posters and window stickers with high heels and defiant slogans because it just throws it into people's faces unnecessarily. It's as if the people behind the campaign think those stickers are going to work like garlic keeping vampires away. It's just as easy to post a discrete sign saying the business has a right to refuse service to anyone, then quietly turn away the cargo shorts & Harley Davidson tee shirt crowd with provocatively dressed dates with an explanation that all tables are reserved.
Now that Colombia is coming out of FARC era of having a reputation for kidnappings and violence danger (60 Minutes feature in the US and various BBC reports on the subject among others), the government wants its share of tourism dollars from wealthy countries. Like any other tourism, sex tourism generates revenue. And it is a constant as long as there isn't a massive shift in the national economy (see below). Colombia launched several professional international tourism promotion campaigns in the past couple of years. It is trying to grow the industry and prevent sex tourism interfering with that growth.
I think the Colombian government knows it would have to greatly increase social programs to rein in sex tourism. Wealthy sectors have no interest in doing that because it would mean higher taxes and paying their employees higher wages. What the wealthy sectors want is what matters. As long as it doesn't interfere with their peaceful enjoyment of the country, wealthy Colombians are happy to reap the benefits of sex tourism and pretend it doesn't exist.Perhaps it needs to be "over the top. " The people it's aimed at don't understand subtle. If they did, nobody would notice the sex tourism.
You've probably seen them around. They're the guys feeling up last night's TLN at the breakfast table or loudly discussing their activities with buddies. They're the ones who think any hot girl, whether she's at the gym, the pool, at a club or just shopping is available for a price. They think being a gringo who can afford to visit Medellin makes them special.
I have no problem with partaking in what is readily available. I do so when I want. But I also keep a low profile. None of the locals that I deal with see any reason to complain about my behavior.
I deal with the problem tourists at least a few times a week. They are the guys who assume the women I work with are all available for a price. If any of them have a price, nobody has come close to it yet.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/emergencia-en-guatape-por-naufrago-de-barco-CJ6784567
Sadly a tourist boat capsized today in Guatape. I took a similar boat on my latest trip.
http://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/emergencia-en-guatape-por-naufrago-de-barco-CJ6784567
Sadly a tourist boat capsized today in Guatape. I took a similar boat on my latest trip.Ouch, 100 people on the boat, all headed to the top decks for the best view. I could see how she would be top-heavy.
I was in Medellin Thursday, May 25th through Thursday, June 1st. I go there for work and the culture of the city in addition to the women, so my apologies in advance if I'm not as prolific as the rest of you doing 3 girls a day ha ha.
I rented an apartment through Airbnb that was a 10-15 minute walk up the hill from Parque Lleras.
Thursday night I got in late and didn't feel like hitting El Centro so I went to Fase II. The place was quite packed, similar to previous trips. Entry was 10 k, but the doorman tried to act like the 20 k I gave him was the price. After I caught him he said he should have 10 k tip, to which I said 'Por que?' Anyway, he eventually relented and gave me my money. Beers inside were 20 k (both domestic or import), dancer tip was 2 k, and I believe a session was 190 k. There were some nice looking girls, but most were engaged by larger groups of what appeared to be American bachelor parties with tables near the stage. I stayed for a little over an hour and left. The dancers I chatted with said that Thursdays and Fridays are busiest and Saturdays can actually be a bit slow.
Friday afternoon I hit up the centro casas. New Life had the standard set of all shapes and sizes, but nothing special. Cost was 50 k for 30 minutes. This is my second time there since the remodel and I'm still not sure if I like it or not. It feels like you're going to the doctors office or something the way it's set up ha ha. Overall 15 girls at 1 pm on Friday. Next went to Zandalay which I'm beginning to like more and more. There is a bar where you can hang out in the front, beers are 8 k, and girls are friendly. There were 8 chicas at 2 pm on that Friday. Last went to Archimedes which is a little further north and more of a locals place. It was my go to a couple years back, but there's less and less every time I go there. This time there were maybe 5 girls and 10+ guys. May have put this one on hold. Cost is approximately 35 k for girl and 15 k for the room. You pay the girl both afterwards.
Saturday I had a date with a college girl from previous trips. I gave her a moderately priced female watch ($50-$75) from the states and she was over the moon. Not something for everyone, but I know I'll be seeing her again and the small gift usually leads to automatic all nights for cheaper. We went for dinner and then met up with some friends at Gusto after we found Sky Bar was closed. Since there were 5 guys and a handful of girls we did bottle service. I believe it was 375 k for a bottle of Absolut Vodka. Between 5 guys not all that bad and the girls enjoyed dancing with each of us and taking photos of themselves. The girl spend the night, 3 sessions, and I gave her 200 k to "help with rent. ".
Sunday night through Wednesday night I had a mix of girls from sites, another favorite college girl from a previous trip, and went out with two non-working girls that I met. One at the gym and one at Sky Bar in Parque Lleras. For nice drinking dates I would recommend Envy at the top of the Charlee (drinks start at 25 k or so, but you can each have one and enjoy the view for hours), or Woka which is also in Lleras and a bit hidden. The latter also an intimate vibe, nice drinks, and small plates. The girls all enjoyed going to these places because it was more of scene. Envy also is pretty big on one girl / one guy so it can be hard to get in if you show up after 8 pm without a date. Keep that in mind.
Thursday night I stopped by Lindas Chicas with a friend. The place has gone up market with the charging 300 k for 1 to 1. 5 hours. They did have a good selection and said they could call many more girls, but it was not for me. I would avoid in the future.
Closing Thoughts.
§ Parque Lleras seems to be as busy as ever with a healthy mix of new restaurants and bars with old stand bys.
§ Numerous rental property buildings going up everywhere. With the additional capacity I'm hopeful that rates will go down.
§ Gusto still looks to be a pick up spot, but girls are very expensive. They seem to start at 300 k and if you don't speak Spanish or are naive they'll contort the agreement to be USD.
§ Find some Facebook girls if you can, it will make your life easier.
YippieKayay
06-26-17, 14:12
I believe it was 375 k for a bottle of Absolut Vodka. Between 5 guys not all that bad and the girls enjoyed dancing with each of us and taking photos of themselves. The girl spend the night, 3 sessions, and I gave her 200 k to "help with rent. ".
To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.
Woka which is also in Lleras and a bit hidden.
Woka is a great intimate club.
Thursday night I stopped by Lindas Chicas with a friend. The place has gone up market with the charging 300 k for 1 to 1. 5 hours. They did have a good selection and said they could call many more girls, but it was not for me. I would avoid in the future.
Fuck that noise. I'm not paying upward of 200 k and no way I'm doing even that at a centro casa. Some guys are throwing stupid money down there for no reason.
Gusto still looks to be a pick up spot, but girls are very expensive. They seem to start at 300 k and if you don't speak Spanish or are naive they'll contort the agreement to be USD.
The trick to Gusto is to go after midnight. The remaining girls will go for 200 k. Early on they ask for stupid prices but as the night comes to a close they'll lower their price. My route starts at 9-10 pm at the Beer store patio, and do a bit of bar hopping until midnight then hit Gusto if I haven't picked up any. The quality of women in Gusto isn't that great to begin with. Most seem like semi-pros who come down after work. Better off going to Fase Dos if you're going to spend 300 k that night. That's drinks + a fuck at the strip club.
I'm in Medellin Wednesday. I have a feeling the 4th of July celebrations will mean the city is flooded with overpaying sex tourists. Will report back next week.
Thank you for knocking some sense into these people. Guys stop driving the prices up with the freelancer! I have never paid more than 150 k for TLN. Ill be there tmrw til Saturday. Hit me if yall want to hang.
To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.
Woka is a great intimate club.
Fuck that noise. I'm not paying upward of 200 k and no way I'm doing even that at a centro casa. Some guys are throwing stupid money down there for no reason.
The trick to Gusto is to go after midnight. The remaining girls will go for 200 k. Early on they ask for stupid prices but as the night comes to a close they'll lower their price. My route starts at 9-10 pm at the Beer store patio, and do a bit of bar hopping until midnight then hit Gusto if I haven't picked up any. The quality of women in Gusto isn't that great to begin with. Most seem like semi-pros who come down after work. Better off going to Fase Dos if you're going to spend 300 k that night. That's drinks + a fuck at the strip club.
I'm in Medellin Wednesday. I have a feeling the 4th of July celebrations will mean the city is flooded with overpaying sex tourists. Will report back next week..
Hola,
Has anyone been to club Fantasia located in el centro. I heard today that is where the Venezuelans go.
To show their friends hahaha. Everytime I took Colombian bimbos out to any place remotely upscale they do this.Exactly! Outdoing their buddies is the highest form of their materialism.
I think there was a report that the ship had no life jackets on board!
Ouch, 100 people on the boat, all headed to the top decks for the best view. I could see how she would be top-heavy.
Hey man, just want to say thanks for a good trip report! I enjoyed reading it and getting caught up on the scene. I arrive Saturday after a 2 year hiatus. I'll try to leave a report as good as yours.
Good work.
Mr Enternational
06-27-17, 01:05
Thank you for knocking some sense into these people. Guys stop driving the prices up with the freelancer! I have never paid more than 150 k for TLN.But that is an advantage of staying downtown. If you are staying in Poblado then they know you will pay it. When they see our 35K hotels they know we are not about to give them nowhere near what the Poblado guys give.
YippieKayay
06-27-17, 02:56
But that is an advantage of staying downtown. If you are staying in Poblado then they know you will pay it. When they see our 35K hotels they know we are not about to give them nowhere near what the Poblado guys give.You can get 200 k for short time in El Poblado quiet easily. Then again 200 k is big money for centro girls.
Black Page
06-27-17, 09:45
You can get 200 k for short time in El Poblado quiet easily. Then again 200 k is big money for centro girls.Big money? That's much more than an understatement!
During my roaming tours around 1 am-2 am in Prado, Perpetuo Socorro and Nikitao, say over the last 5 years, I found some pretty ones who did not try to overcharge me because foreigner and requested 20 k (standard low-end SW fee for locals). In some cases, counter-offering 40 k-50 k gave me an outstanding RoI, rewarding me with some of the most outstanding experiences of my life (duly reported here, but years ago, which means maybe thousands MDE thread pages ago). There's a lot of humanity and gems to discover there, but digging is not trivial, and rubbish is overwhelming. (Not to repeat, once again, that walking around after midnight in Centro is a challenge and should be avoided in any case unless one really knows where to go and how to move)
PepolesBuddy
06-27-17, 12:18
Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?
Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?You can buy Viagra at some pharmacies, but why buy it when you can get the generic sildenafil (sildenafilo, in spanish) for a fraction of the cost. 50 MG pills costs 30 to 50 cents each, and are available over the counter with no questions asked. I have found the best price at the pharmacy just outside Park Lleras, across calle 10 from Mondongo's restaurant.
Black Page
06-27-17, 13:52
Hey I'm sure this was covered at one point or another but I'm too lazy to dig into previous posts. Can you walk into any pharmacy and just buy viagra no questions asked? How much are they going for?Since you took much longer to write that than using the "search" function above this page, I'd say that simple "lazy" does not apply here. We are dealing with something different.
Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.
Hola,
Has anyone been to club Fantasia located in el centro. I heard today that is where the Venezuelans go.Night Club or strip club?
Address?
YippieKayay
06-28-17, 01:17
Hey guys,
The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about itSecurity guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.
Security guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.Security guard didn't fuck him. He fucked himself.
AirBnB is much different from a hotel. The owner is usually known in the building, they have neighbors to worry about and complaints to deal with, even if the guest doesn't cause any problems. If it's a good building in an estrato 6 neighborhood the neighbors don't want prepagos in the building. They don't want their kids around it. There's also the issue of bringing an estrato 2 or 3 girl to an estrato 6 building. Unless she's there to clean the people believe she doesn't belong in their neighborhood.
That's why you ask before you book.
It's also a good idea, if you have a question about Bogota, to post about it in the Bogota thread.
The Tall Man
06-28-17, 02:30
Security guard didn't fuck him. He fucked himself.
AirBnB is much different from a hotel. The owner is usually known in the building, they have neighbors to worry about and complaints to deal with, even if the guest doesn't cause any problems. If it's a good building in an estrato 6 neighborhood the neighbors don't want prepagos in the building. They don't want their kids around it. There's also the issue of bringing an estrato 2 or 3 girl to an estrato 6 building. Unless she's there to clean the people believe she doesn't belong in their neighborhood.
That's why you ask before you book.
It's also a good idea, if you have a question about Bogota, to post about it in the Bogota thread.Spot on advice. Many apartments are not allowed to even rent or operate a Airbnb in the building so this could put the owner in a very bad situation.
TTM.
MedellinGringo
06-28-17, 02:31
Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.I have stayed at dozens of airbnb apartments in Medellin and never had a problem like that. But I usually pay for an extra guest if there is a charge for an extra person and if they ask. I tell them I have girlfriends that spend the night. At any rate. I always book the apartment for two.
And I would never share an apartment with another monger. Just too much traffic and if they don't know what they are doing could bring in an [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) chick or drugged out nut case or one that will steal your shit. Into the apartment.
I don't know if you can comment on her comment on airbnb. But I would deny that your friends where prepagos and point out that she didn't say guests weren't allowed in the apartment profile. How the hell would she know what they were unless they were low class street walkers. And if they were. You should have been staying at a 35 mill a night hotel in el centro. Instead of a nice apartment in a nice building.
... However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.I doubt that review will have an effect with hosts who allow guests. I always tell a host what I plan regarding guests and ask if that is permissible. If, in fact, there is nothing in the listing regarding guests, I would initiate a dispute in airbnb about the review. Some of the listings don't specifically say "no guests", but will have wording that says that between the lines. If it says the building is occupied by local families and they must be respected, that pretty much gives the host grounds to enforce "no prostitutes".
Yes, you will be able to get another airbnb apartment, but only from hosts who accept sex tourists.
Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.
BoricuaOnline
06-28-17, 04:14
I visited Colombia June 16 to 25. My trip was split between Medellin and Cartagena. It was mainly a tourist trip with a mongering twist so our lodging selection was based mainly from a tourist point of view so my selection does not make sense from a mongers perspective. I stayed in hotel Dorado la 70 from June 16 to 18, Dann Carlton from 18 to 20, Dann Cartagena from 20 to 24 and a final day back to Dorado la 70. While the cost of Dorado was $58 per night both Dann's were around $85, split between two persons. All hotels included breakfast. I arrived to Medellin around 10:30 pm And used Bancolombia ATM to retire money. I got 2,929 pesos per dollar while the conversion rate was 2,950 pesos per $1.
My cousin and I took a cab to Hotel Dorado in Carrera 70, comuna Laureles. Laureles is 90% estrato 4 or 5, the remaining 10% is split between estratos 2 to 4. According to official data, estratos 4 to 6 families on average have 4 members while estrato 1 or 2 has 6. Poorest people tend to have more babies or to split costs of a home. We paid 60,000 pesos for a cab to Laureles, which is not far from Centro. Trip from airport was around 45 minutes. We arrived to Carrera 70 area which is a very nice area with a great night life. Mostly locals frequent the area, we see very few tourists there which is nice to me. The hotel is a modern building with marble floors, restaurant, activities rooms and a rooftop bar and gym with sauna. It has a casino attached to the building. The room was very nice with the exception of harder than box spring mattress. At the end it was easy to sleep there because we got drunk every night there. We walked and sample a few bars and eateries. There are hundreds of places along the Carrera 70 mixed with other useful places as for example drugstores, supermarkets and others. A few thousand people populated the area every day and every night.
The place is near the Girardot soccer stadium were the finals Nacional de Medellin vs. Deportivo Cali were scheduled on Sunday June 18. The finals helped to the festive ambiance of the area.
Although I do not see any evident working girl around it is not hard to meet locals. Around 2:00 am I met a local lady, we had a great time chatting and dancing. We exchanged numbers but we do not meet again during the trip.
I mostly drink Aguila or Pilsen beer, around 2500 to 3000 pesos mixed with aguardiente shots, 3000 to 4000 pesos. Food was incredibly cheap, we exchanged a huge picada (ribs, beef, chicken, sausage, fries and arepas) for around $10 US. Party usually ends around 4:00 am On Carrera 70.
UBER VERSUS TAXI While generally Uber is cheaper most time we got better fares in metered cab rides. We got a 9,000 pesos taxi ride from Envigado to Lleras while Uber was quoting 21,000 pesos. It was because of 2 x Uber fares after Medellin Nacional victory over Cali so we used taxis more than Uber.
NEAR HOTEL We stocked our room with water and munchies from nearby Exito supermarket. There was a couple drugstores around. We had almost everything within walking distance. Hotel minibar was not expensive, most items were around $1 to $2.
Next day we go to Santa Fe Mall, Lleras and around the city for beer and aguardiente drinking. Back to Carrera 70 we go to hotel rooftop bar and met the lady who added a local paisa flavor to our trip. We spent from 7:00 pm To 2:00 am Drinking and chatting with her. It was enough time to earn a best friends forever status. After her work shift we go to a nearby place to drink. She invited us next night to her mother's bar around Parque Envigado to enjoy the soccer finals. We finished the night drunk again around 4:00 am.
We moved to Dann Carlton in Poblado on Sunday. From Dann It is a 8 minute walk to Lleras. It is a very nice area of the city. We spent a couple of hours on Lleras, most places were closed.
Early that night we took an Uber to Envigado, it was around 11,000 pesos ride. Envigado was a pleasant surprise. The area around Envigado Park has the local nice small town flavor. There are bars, restaurants and department stores around mixed with churches and local government buildings. We met a guy who is the best friend of our lady friend. He took us after the game to a street they call La Raya. It is a few blocks from Envigado Park. It is a red district street. Apparently locals call some red zones La Raya because there is also a red zone La Raya in Itagui. There was a decent amount of streetgirls with some cuties. I chose a young 18 yr lady, 50,000 pesos was the cost per one hour. The girl was nice and performed decent sex, she was very pretty with large natural boobs. My cousin choose an older lady, he said he was satisfied. We went back to the bar and the park was full of people celebrating the Nacional de Medellin championship. While Envigado has his own soccer team it do not have the tradition the Nacional has. We went with our lady friend to Lleras to celebrate with Nacional hinchas. We get covered in flour and shaving cream during the celebration. It was a funny experience.
Next day we went with our new friends to Guatapé. It is a nice natural area with a large rock and lake around. We split all expenses among all us except that my cousin and I invited dinner. We ate in El Malecon restaurant which is near where the boat sunk last Sunday. I recommend the punta de anca steak, a juicy near one pound steak with sides for around $6. We went back to Medellin early that night, they took us to the hotel and that night my cousin and I decided to visit Luna Lunera, a place somebody recommended instead of Conejitas. Our Uber driver do not found Luna Lunera, his GPS took us to Pueblito Paisa entrance. But hey, he said there was a better place near our hotel. Minutes later we were inside Phase II. Girls were pretty, some danced until full nudity. Drinks were expensive, mostly around 20 k to 25 k. Girls 190,000. I ended choosing a blonde girl. We went to a room area next to the club and finished our business inside a nice room. Good covered blowjob, nice body but everything else sucks. She show me the enthusiasm I always showed when I go to church when I was a kid. We finished and I told my cousin to go back to the hotel. We arrived back to Dann Carlton and there were two guys that we saw in Phase II with a gorgeous tall busty girl from Phase II. They were checking her in.
We go to our room but 20 minutes later my cousin got the munchies so we decided to go down to a street food seller near the hotel. We go down to the lobby and there were the guys and the lady again. They accused the girl of stealing money inside the room. When we go out the hotel two police guys arrived. We got to the food place but they were closing. Back to the hotel we saw the lady giving money back to the guys in front of the police so apparently the story ended well to the guys.
My cousin and I ordered two juicy burgers with fries room service. Really great burgers, not over expensive. That way we ended our first Medellin part of the trip.
TINDER. I received multiple Tinder girl requests. Most girls were straight to the point stating they were prepagos and requesting from 150 k to 200 k. I got a few numbers just in case. Medellin is a city I like a lot, it has a pleasant climate just the way I like it, lots of pretty girls, very nice people, we had a nice touristic first part of our trip. Next day we moved to Cartagena were we got more into mongering and things got weird, funny, unexpected and risky. Cartagena extensive report and final fun day in Medellin report coming in the next few days. (With pictures).
Hey guys,
Wondering if any one of you all had a problem like this, I went a while back to Colombia and stayed at a nice apartment in Bogota, it was a 2 bedroom with 4 people capacity as I rented all for my self and my buddy. The host rules never mentioned anything of me not being allowed to bring guests, but in the second night I did bring 2 pros to the apartment, the apartment had a security system and a portero, girls registered their ids everything was good, but I got a call from the host as I was banging the chick saying that I had to leave the apartment at that instant, she said she got a call from the security guard telling her that I brought hookers over and she was not happy about it, I complied of course, left, ended up staying at a hotel with the pro, next day I met with the host and she gave me in cash the remaining days I had booked her apartment for. However the problem is that she left a very unpleasant review, labelling me a sex tourist saying that I got 2 prostitutes from the most dangerous barrio (they were prepagos BTW) and yeah, saying I was a terrible guest therefore in spite that nothing in her home was broken, it was tended to, I never disrespected the host, so yeah with that being said will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.Most regular people renting private apartments don't want hookers in their place. Always ask. I'd say that even if they allow "guests", that doesn't necessarily mean that they allow hookers.
Security guard fucked you. Next time do what I do and ask on Airbnb if you are allowed over night guests. Also dispute her review and have it removed.
This is why you should always ask first and make sure they are clear on what you will be doing. She is an idiot. She should know better.She should know better? You mean that she should EXPECT that every gringo will bring hookers to her apartment, right?
Mr Enternational
06-28-17, 07:05
I visited Colombia June 16 to 25. My trip was split between Medellin and Cartagena.Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?
Night Club or strip club?
Address?Strip club where guys go to get laid. Paisa told me her gorgeous Venezuela friend works there occasionally and her Venezuela friends work there as well. Paisa said would get the address to the place.
YippieKayay
06-28-17, 08:20
She should know better? You mean that she should EXPECT that every gringo will bring hookers to her apartment, right?What is with this attitude about airbnb rentals? You are paying to rent a place. It's like renting a car and being told you can't take it to some areas. The rules clearly didn't tell him he can't bring a chica back. As long as he wasn't being a pest and playing loud music I don't see an issue. If the apartment is some sacred place then don't treat it like a rental car and rent it out on airbnb.
PepolesBuddy
06-28-17, 14:20
will I be able to get another apartment through airbnb or did she royally screw me for me to use that app ever again? I have a total pf 3 reviews, the other 2 are positive so this is my negative but its the one that stands out, wondering if any of you guys have ever had this issue before and how you all went about it.Sucks that happened to you brother. I tried to private message you but it's not allowing me with you. Is your pm feature off or are you not a paying member? Anyway can you give us the airbnb URL you had issues with so the rest of us can avoid them? Thanks.
pepolesbuddy.
What is with this attitude about airbnb rentals? You are paying to rent a place. It's like renting a car and being told you can't take it to some areas. The rules clearly didn't tell him he can't bring a chica back. As long as he wasn't being a pest and playing loud music I don't see an issue. If the apartment is some sacred place then don't treat it like a rental car and rent it out on airbnb.The attitude is because an AirBnB rental is not like a rental car. A rental car, like a hotel room, is a completely anonymous piece of corporate property. If you have a friend who works at Hertz and you see a Hertz rental in the parking lot of a gay bar, do you immediately assume your friend is in the bar?
Years ago I went to a strip club and parked my car facing the street, instead of in the back. Some friends saw the car and stopped in. If I had a wife or girlfriend, it could have been a problem. Instead it just meant I had to put up with some guys who weren't much fun in a strip club.
AirBnB is like handing your car keys over to a complete stranger. Wherever people see your car they will assume you are involved. While you probably have rules; don't drink and drive, don't smoke in the car, be careful, you probably aren't going to list every type of alcohol and every brand and type of smoking material that you want them to avoid. You might not even mention some rules, because to you they are common sense rules, or because they are outside your awareness.
Bringing prostitutes into your home isn't normal. It doesn't matter where, society sees it as improper conduct. A woman, living in a very religious, Catholic country, especially in a good neighborhood, doesn't see prostitution. It does not exist in her awareness. It's only something that happens in the bad places where she never goes. She doesn't feel the need to specify "no prostitutes" just like you probably don't ask houseguests "don't murder the neighbor kids. " In her world nobody would do such a thing.
AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".
My resentment is more for the harsh review, I mean I understand where she comes from as a home owner don't get me wrong, if I had a apartment or home I am renting through airbnb a guest who would participate in such activities would give me a sense of unease. Again when she called me to tell me to leave her apartment, I responded in a nice manner, I complied and that I understood I would leave immediately and apologized and everything. In spite of that the next day we met, she had money that she gave me for the remaining days that I had booked it, she was of course obviously pissed I was still polite and calm and apologized in person, and to put a review that I was a "terrible" experience, a sex tourist (even though there is noevidence poiting that the girls were pros, I mean yes they were but its not like she had evidence they could have been my "friends) and labeling me as rude and an unwanted guest. The harsh and over exaggerated review is what really bothers me as opposed to her anger as a host.
Mr Enternational
06-28-17, 17:04
Damn. Strong points by both Jj and YK. Some guys get so wrapped up in the hobby that they begin to consider it normal. Well it may be their normal, but everybody does not have the same idea of normal. Commom sense ain't so common; that is why contracts exist. It has been said time and time again that locals take hookers to love motels. Foreigners have no shame and bring them right through their front door of where they are staying.
Night Club or strip club?
Address?There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor/fantasia/2063.
Damn. Strong points by both Jj and YK. Some guys get so wrapped up in the hobby that they begin to consider it normal. Well it may be their normal, but everybody does not have the same idea of normal. Commom sense ain't so common; that is why contracts exist. It has been said time and time again that locals take hookers to love motels. Foreigners have no shame and bring them right through their front door of where they are staying.I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building. I see the same people in the elevator week after week. If you've spent any time in Medellin elevators you know it's almost impossible to avoid some type of greeting. I don't want the smiles and greetings to stop. I don't want people to not get on the elevator when they see me on it. I don't want my neighbors to complain about everything to try and get me out.
I can go to any casa, strip club or massage parlor, I can go to a love motel, or just rent a hotel room. If a friend comes and stays for a few days I would give him the same options.
People should ask themselves "Would I do this at my house?" "Would I do this at my parent's or friend's house?" when they are considering an AirBnB. If not, find a hotel, or clear it with the host.
I can walk through the gate of my building with anybody. The porterias will just wave me through. I walk in with different models on a semi-regular basis. But I won't bring a prepago into the building. Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?
Do you mean you will not bring a girl into the building if she looks like a prepago / hooker?Define "looks like a prepago. " Some of the models dress very sexy. Even my roommate often wears clothes that would raise a lot of eyebrows in the US. But none of them are prepagos. They are in the building for a purpose: recording video, photo shoot, meeting with one of the bosses who lives in the building, training, or just visiting another model who lives in the building.
What I mean is that I won't bring a prepago into the building. If I'm paying someone for sex, I'm not bringing them home with me. How they look or dress matter.
... AirBnB isn't just a rental. You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. As a guest, if you want to do something that is not normally accepted behavior, it's your responsibility to ask the host. If you crap on people's floor, they have a right to be upset, even if they never said "don't crap on the floor. ".Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.
There is a MP in centro named Fantasia according to this link. http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor/fantasia/2063.Casa de Fantasia.
Calle 57 # 50-19.
Medellin.
Fantasia.
Cra 46 # 57 A-21.
Medellin.
Not sure how current that list is though.
Almost all, if not all, of the airbnb's guys on this site are renting are not someone's home. They are apartments specifically for short-term rentals. Many of the owners don't even live in the city where the apartment is located. I can understand your POV if someone is renting a room from the residents of the apartment / house, but that is not the situation being discussed.Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.
I assume you've been in a hotel. Do you know who stays in hotels? Travelers. They are there for a few days or weeks and then they are gone. The people paying for the rooms are constantly changing. While they might write a bad review, their effect on the hotel is minimal, especially a large, established hotel with hundreds of reviews. The hotel probably has a guest policy, but it's not a big deal.
Have you ever lived in a condo or townhouse? Almost all the residents are there for many years. They don't move to a new apartment every 6 to 10 days. If there are 4 or 5 short term rentals in a building of 100 apartments, the short term owners are grossly outnumbered. The other residents have the power to cause serious problems. If you own those 4 apartments and the administration is pressured to require 3 month minimum leases for any rental units, or administration fees are raised for short term rentals, or they charge a fee to register short term renters, your AirBnB investment just went south.
If you continue to say "fuck you" to the AirBnB hosts, you and everyone else who wants to bring someone back, will lose that option.
It's not difficult. Ask first. If you ask first you don't get a bad renter review. If you ask first you don't find out that the girl you're ready to fuck isn't getting in to the building. If you ask first you don't end up paying for another taxi and a short time hotel and another taxi and an extra tip for the girl because you wasted 30 minutes arguing with security.
If you ask first you don't cause another AirBnB host to refuse to rent to gringos because they don't respect the owner's rules.
Stinky Squid
06-29-17, 00:38
So, I made it to Medellin.
I never managed to book at Hotel M, because they are kind of incapable. I sent email and when I wanted to confirm they didn't reply back. Then I called and the guy told me to send email. Then someone called me back on my voicemail and whatever.
Another member recommended I try Hotel Kong at Calle 55 x Carrera 43, centro. This is a love hotel that you can book on Booking dot com. I booked that super cheap. I think they only do during the week not on weekends. This here is not comparable with the Brazilian motel. I never understand why they wouldn't put the full mirror set around the bed. But my room has a bathtub / Jacuzzi right here. The place can be loud as they have full sound systems in every room. When I came in one guy was doing it and it sounded like a disco was going on at that side of the building.
I am only here as a fall-back option. But it gave me the chance to scout out downtown. During the day time and early evening it is how downtowns are, lots of shopping and open air markets. In the early evening the whole place turns into a brothel it seems. Tons of chicas walking and standing idly about. Most of them leave me with disgust though. I tried to get turned on, but I have a hard time. Even in Panama at Habano's Cafe, the way the putas are presenting themselves is turning me off. Because it's all so fake. Once you are with them and you haven't specified everything exactly the nagging and negating starts. No interest. The street lingering ones are annoying and really ruin their own business. Because they stand in group and when you want to get a better view of one, the others get in the way. And when they start hollering at me, that gives me the rest for me to just walk away.
I saw a very curious scheme around the Museum park. There are really young ones who "sell lollipops" obviously it is about chuipeta. There was one girl who got my attention and I started to want her. Cute face and now I am thinking she might even have been some months pregnant. I approached her and asked what she is "offering" with those lollipops. Unfortunately again the others barged in and ruined it with lewd talking. I asked that girl what her age was, she replied 18. My next question would have been if she could prove it. But all that annoying gacking of the others turned me off and I walked away. I am sure with those lollipop girls you need to check the papers three times and do have the hotel check them too. It might even be a trap as they seemed to approach particularly older men. Oh, I forgot, when I looked in the girl's face up close I got turned off. May be without the other's gacking I could have appreciated the strange traces as exotic, but it was to tense a situation.
That is the problem there, you can't really sit down and drink a beer while watching the girls go by. You have to walk around. Everyone is walking around, I saw some other nervous gringos on the hunt.
I didn't feel unsafe at all, but then I am a lot in Rio and to me Medellin and Bogota appear well more civilized, almost European. The country side of Medellin is beautiful by the way, as you come down from the airport, it is like you drive through Switzerland. Oh yes, and the airport bus was very convenient. I just took the one to Centro until the final stop, and then hopped into a Taxi for the last mile to Hotel Kong.
Now I am resting and later will check out Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. Just to have seen it once. My goa ls to bring a girl back for the night to use the jacuzzi and like I said, I want to have one in my bed every night. I love to wake up to a warm and soft girl.
For the rest of my days I have lined up a multi day blind date. Unfortunately I didn't take the time to plan it out earlier so it failed because of last minute. My style is being picked up from the airport. That failed. But now I have that girl locked down for the rest of the 3 nights until I leave. I dunno, I suck like that. I am not good with the short time, I enjoy more something steady. We'll see how it goes with her.
Yet, the post that started this conversation involved an AirBnB owner who did live in the same city (Bogota). So, it is exactly the situation being discussed.I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.
BoricuaOnline
06-29-17, 02:44
Great report as usual BO, but you know I have to do it to you. Colombia or DR?While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaçao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.
Different strokes for different folks.
While according to my standards and generally speaking colombianas are prettier dominicanas have better bodies, more curves. Dominicanas are more expressive while colombianas are more sophisticated. My first experience with colombianas was years ago inside Campo Alegre in Curaao. I sampled four pretty colombianas during my short cruise ship stop and got interested in visiting the country. Still I can't rank colombianas or Dominicanas better than the others since my experience was satisfying in both countries.
The carrera 46 address is accurate. The place is also known as "Andromeda". It's pretty good, they usually have a tout out front to grab guys headed toward Zandaly around the corner. It's two steep flights up from the street so it might be a problem for some.
Casa de Fantasia.
Calle 57 # 50-19.
Medellin.
Fantasia.
Cra 46 # 57 A-21.
Medellin.
Not sure how current that list is though.
I don't know if you are being argumentative just to engage in an argument, or if you don't understand comments you and others post. I was responding to your statement that said "You are paying to be a guest in someone's home. " The original poster said he and his buddy rented an entire apartment, so it was not the host's home. It does not matter if the host lived next door, the same city, or the same continent, the host was not living in that apartment so it was not her home. The situation being discussed did not involve the original poster being a guest in someone's home.There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.
If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.
Are you still with me?
Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.
Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.
Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.
Have I lost you yet?
A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.
Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?
Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.
Again, my idea of airbnb, especially if you rent a whole house / apartment is that you basically take ownership, is like when you rent a whole house but you don't own it, you take ownership of the home and can do as you please (except of course damaging the property) again I was not mad that the host kicked me out of her home, I am more pissed of the review and how it will affect me to get future apartments. I like Airbnb and doing the apartment route as opposed to hotel because it is a lot more private, I cam yes bring pros without raising as much eyebrows as I would at a busy hotel, also being able to smoke pot in peace as many hotels don't allow smoking, far less with mariguana. So yeah, hopefully I will still be able to rent apartments through airbnb if not I guess I will have to make a second account or something like that.
YippieKayay
06-29-17, 05:00
Its full monger mode for me. Just arrived and did all the usual first day crap like stocking up on booze, toiletries and what not. Lleras is not too busy. Gusto has about a half a dozen prepagos. A couple of them pretty aggressive.
I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.
So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.
Stinky Squid
06-29-17, 08:41
So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so, because even the street walker scene is dying out by that time. It seems to be more of a day scene, especially that weird sexual marketplace around the parks is finished after nightfall.
I was about an hour and a half in Fase Dos. So they do have the dance shows beginning at 10 pm and at least every half hour. At 9 pm it was still almost nobody there. Chicas hanging out and the ugly ones approaching me and sitting down. I decline politely. I wasn't there to try a quickie, I just wanted to see if I get into the mood. But I didn't. I didn't really like most of the chicas. I guess I am spoiled. But again this artificial mechanical fake attitude is something I am just allergic to. Then when the waiter sent me away from the table at the dance thing because I had only a beer and not some expensive liquor shit, I was done with the place and left. The two dance shows I saw was by the two ugly ones (in my eyes).
So I went out and to Luna Lunera to see how that compares. Luna Lunera has a different seating arrangement and it is a bit more like a "casa" where the chicas introduce themselves fairly quickly without pressuring you (like the ugly ones always do, sitting down and striking up a conversation). It was now well after 10 pm getting on 11 pm and I was the only guy there. Initially the chicas had some fun watching two bigger older ones do the pole dance thing. Later on they kind of went on break, of course because I didn't show much interest.
In my view, the only ones interesting are the quiet ones in the background. May be they are new, younger, and prettier. That was the same in Fase Dos and Luna Lunera. I didn't find the Fase Dos chicas much better looking.
After about an hour there I went back to centro to catch the 11 pm situation. I intended to pick some girl out from Conejitas because I wanted to fill my bed. But then I turned on my heels thinking that the Conejitas thing has that hotel, so its probably not a thing to check them out entirely. Also, I had picked up a card of a chica place closer to my Hotel. You know, those little business cards they hand out to single guys strolling the streets. That one was at Calle 58,45 D104. I wanted to go there and get my chick for the night. Alas, when I located the address, there was nothing. Disappointment with the card.
So I walked back to my Hotel. Which reminds me: the weird Centro place is actually limited. When you go east of Carreira 40 or so, it becomes quite peaceful neighborhoods not unlike you can find them in Berlin Charlottenburg for example. And also, as the taxi drivers raced to and fro Centro and Fase Dos and Luna Luneira, there was all this deadness on the streets. I guess that all still counts as centro. But anyway, that Hotel Kong is actually in a decent neighborhood in waling distance of the Centro places.
Now back alone in my hotel room with a neighbor room producing loud music, I felt the urge to fill my bed. And I ran down my list from Photoprepagos. Co. I had made some contacts with some of the girls with whom I chatted as if they were friends or lovers. So that was nice. Unfortunately two of them were offline and the third was sick so she couldn't come over. She sounded so nice as if we had some chemistry. Anyway, in my determination I ran down the list, very many do not respond, or not respond on time. Until I found a certain Paola, 18 years, with no face shown but nice long hair looking good. I whatsapped her and in 10 minutes she was here. When I opened the door I got this shock feeling, like when it's not what was on the package. And we had zero chemistry. She started re-negotiating the time and money, I held firm, but then I offered her an out. Pay her taxi and some extra for time to call it quits. I didn't feel like I would enjoy her. I felt like she didn't like me. This signal where you just have to act and end it or else be suckered into shit and feel ever worse. At least that's the way with me. The weird thing was, she argued that she didn't want to leave. Sure, then she agreed to the terms and wanted the money up front. I didn't resist, but I was stupid because I didn't like her. Handed her the money. Tried it. She got all mechanical before we were even caressing she already reached to unpack condom. Suddenly kissing wasn't allowed. And she couldn't stand my gaze. So it was the real bummer. But strange thing she didn't want to leave. That I rejected her upset her like crazy. And she started an argument. I thought boy what a ridiculous situation! You pay a girl for arguing with you! (You could call that a GFE or another kind, haha!) Finally I ushered her out. Feeling better alone than with an ugly cold fish in bed.
Now I do have a history of bad experiences. I really learn that I am just not the quick monger. I need that chemistry, that slowness, that kissing and GFE stuff. Shit, I wish I could teach myself the other way, but I always fail in that. However, just my last day in Rio I had one over who I didn't really like physically either, but she was nice, and being nice makes such a huge difference. Now that thing tonight was horrible. While the nice chick messaged me. Even that was funny, I had to turn off the chat with the sympathic chica in order to try an encounter with a cold fish. Weird!
So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.
Some pricing intelligence: amanhecida is not really the same as TLN, because they intend to end it early. This terrible Paola chick had thought that amanhecida would end at 3 am. I go like what? The whole point is that you take it slow in the morning and do it when you wake up naturally at 6 am or so. Such amanhecida goes for 250 k. Some quote 600 k. I got a 24 hours for 600 k from a very good looking girl (that is, if she hasn't crippled her hair as so many girls are doing around the world.
Stinky Squid
06-29-17, 08:43
I lined up two dates tomorrow. Both agreed to 150 k. One at 10 am and one at 1 pm. I only fucked up by getting a hotel room this time but I will see how they react.
So I guess 150 k is totally normal pricing. I always thought 200 k was the new price.I think 200 k is the Bogota price and the Medellin price is a bit lower.
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.I'm with you JjB, common sense really. The monger world, however, has it's share of guys who just don't get it, or just don't give a flip.
Debating this topic is like beating your head against the wall.
So I don't.
Black Page
06-29-17, 13:59
So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or soI hate to write again on this topic, but it is to warn people and (possibly) avoid some bad accident in the future.
The fact that you did not feel very unsafe is the perfect depiction of how insidious is the place. You have been lucky, wandering around without recognizing where is the danger, or better you have been NOT UNlucky. The probability of accident is small, but the potential accident is big, so one could still trigger a gun to his head with one bullet over 12 slots, do it 10 times, then smile and conclude "it's safe". Or it looks like one who swims in a pond of Amazonas, with piranhas at the bottom, then concludes happily that it's not so dangerous as he had read before. They were not hungry, maybe, but I would not advise to repeat.
The problem in those areas of Colombia is not the varied crowd of poor humanity, drug sniffers and beggars, but those who are looking at you from distance, conclude you may have something in your pockets, follow you discreetly and, as soon as the opportunity comes, assault you and leave you with nothing (even life, under some circumstances). Trust me: if 2-3 young boys assault you from both sides, point a knife at your back, start to explore your pockets, NOBODY will come to help you. Not the beggars, not the other people like you who are venturing around, not the garbage men. After 12, the police reduces significantly his presence and they may not be able to look after every corner under the metro. I have seen more than once some drunk men assaulted by a group of teens or a couple of big thugs at Prado at night.
I know what I am talking about as I have been walking around the Centro up to 2 am at times years ago, to look for the single gem hidden under tons of garbage (now I prefer to go with the taxi of one of my friend drivers). It's a challenge: always keep distance with anyone who is walking in group of 2 or more people, change way if they seem to walk toward you, look at left, right, front, and back. Never enter the alleys (you know the Indians attacking the US soldiers in canyons in the western movies? Never turn a corner close to the wall (who is waiting at the other side? It may be a surprise).
The worse danger is when one is not aware of the danger.
Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.
El Mechanico
06-29-17, 15:27
If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.If you LIVE in that 'Home' & rent that 'Home' to someone else, your point is valid. Otherwise, you are renting a 'house' to someone else.
My thoughts are:
If you own a "house" and and live in it, then you rent that "house" to another person, they are a guest in your "home". If you live in a different "house", they are still a guest in your "house". If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your "house". No matter how many "house" you own, each one is your "house" and each person staying in each "house" is a guest in your "house".
"If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time. "
I agree 100%. This applies to any country anywhere in the world, mongering or not!
Well I have found the in your face obnoxious girls to be the ones around the SW corner of the park, keep walking that direction and make a right at the little white church, go down a block and right, those girls are more professional so to speak, both sides of the street. This vid starts out around the side of the church:
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph593d7efb11739
Not always hot ones around but they are 30 k /$10, I have found a few worth seeing more then once there.
You might be a little picky though if you didn't find any hotties in FaseII though. I've only been there on a Fri night, past 11 p they had 60 girls on, all cute, top 10 very cute, like Miss Hawaiian Tropic cute.
You can get girls to leave Conejitas / Barre Exjectiva / Mariciabo etc, you just have to pay the club fee, around 50 k.
These are pics are all from the block behind the Church.
So I walked out at around 9 pm and el Centro was still fairly well frequented by regular people. So I didn't feel very unsafe. When I came back at around 11 it was all pretty dead and only weird people, the kind of situation where you are happy to see the garbage man and the road construction crew. The majority of these shady people aren't up to mug you either. I think NYC in the early 90's was worse than this. I think people who come from USA and Europe are just not used to the atmosphere in Centro. But the other thing is, there is not much point to walk around in Centro after 10 pm or so, because even the street walker scene is dying out by that time. It seems to be more of a day scene, especially that weird sexual marketplace around the parks is finished after nightfall.
I was about an hour and a half in Fase Dos. So they do have the dance shows beginning at 10 pm and at least every half hour. At 9 pm it was still almost nobody there. Chicas hanging out and the ugly ones approaching me and sitting down. I decline politely. I wasn't there to try a quickie, I just wanted to see if I get into the mood. But I didn't. I didn't really like most of the chicas. I guess I am spoiled. But again this artificial mechanical fake attitude is something I am just allergic to. Then when the waiter sent me away from the table at the dance thing because I had only a beer and not some expensive liquor shit, I was done with the place and left. The two dance shows I saw was by the two ugly ones (in my eyes)..
Black Page
06-29-17, 19:15
Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.
I live in TX 9 months, and run a top dollar consultancy from home. So can't quite qualify myself as loser.
And, I spend 3 months out a year in Medellin, for business and pleasure.
Currently I find it as a very safe city and so does many of my gringo friends who bought properties here. We just avoid walking in the dark in bad part of city and be vigilant. And its true for any big US cities like Chicago or Baltimore.
We don't do anything illegal and lead a healthy life.
People of Colombia have been very welcoming and nice to us. And I love the weather in MDE.
But we like the bad rep from Pablo's era, or the bad rep from Netflix movie Narcos, LOL. So it stays less crowded.
My 2 cents.
Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.
Mr Enternational
06-29-17, 21:57
More than insulting for Colombia, your words qualify the poster and his level of knowledge about Colombia. Probably just from Fox News or some TV serials. Embarrassing to say the least.The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.
Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes. If she had no clue about that I find it pretty hilarious how out of touch with reality she has to be.
And that Colombia would be a "good catholic country", lmfao. That person knows nothing about Colombia.You need to qualify your statement. Add "by American idiots who know nothing. " Your opening statement should read "Colombia is best known for Pablo Escobar, cocaine, drugs and prostitutes by American idiots who know nothing. ".
I don't know much about Colombia. I've only been living here less than 3 months. Most of my Colombian friends are under 30, so they still probably have things to learn about Colombia.
During the past 80 days I haven't seen any cocaine and nobody I know has mentioned cocaine or other drugs. I've walked past a few people smoking weed and catch a whiff of it from time to time, but it hasn't been offered in any way. One of my friends has mentioned Pablo Escobar a few times, in pointing out empty houses that supposedly once belonged to Escobar assiciates. It's never been a real conversation topic.
As for prostitutes, I've seen a few, professionally and while out and about. I probably average seeing 500 to 1000 people per day (Metro, Ciclovia, malls). So between 40,000 and 80,000 people and perhaps 20 prostitutes. Several I just assumed they were prostitutes, with no real indication. During the same time I've been in about 30 taxis, 10 buses and 20 Ubers. From my experience Colombia is better known for paid transport drivers than prostitutes.
I have learned a few things about Colombia. It's a very Catholic country. Most buses and taxis have either a rosary, or a statue of a saint. Some have several. There's a Catholic shrine just south of CC Santa Fe. I've seen several drivers cross themselves as they pass it, and it's packed on Saturday evenings, Sundays and holidays. Friends have pointed out a few other places which are significant to the local Catholics as well. Speaking of holidays, of the 20 national holidays observed in Colombia, 11 of them are Catholic holidays.
Another thing I've learned is that many Colombians are sick of stupid gringos obsessing over Pablo Escobar. Last I checked he's still dead. They've moved on, maybe it's time you did too.
I've also learned that the Colombians around me have no use for drugs or prostitutes and they really wish uneducated US trailer trash would begin to appreciate the many other things Colombia has to offer.
Most Colombians know about prostitution, just like most Americans. Most know about drugs and Escobar. However, just like most Americans, they don't appreciate people bringing drugs or prostitutes into their lives.
Perhaps you need to learn a little more about Colombia.
The guy has a valid point. What does everyone in this thread know about Suriname or Paraguay? They didn't have a Pablo Escobar. Something has to put a place on the map.In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education. When Colombia first popped up on my radar, I was unaware of the prostitution here. I knew about the cocaine and Escobar, but nothing about prostitution. Most of what I already knew had nothing to do with drugs, Escobar or prostitutes.
As I started researching I became aware of the seedier side. Although my drug days are long behind me, I'm interested in the occasional paid entertainment. I also learned about other aspects of Colombia. My friends here are all college educated, most have traveled throughout the country and they love their country.
Instead of the best place for a BBBJ I've been learning about the best cazuela, mondongo and arepas. Instead of cocaine and weed, I've been experimenting with different tropical fruits. Most of my conversations deal with modeling, photography, fashion and video production, not El Centro glue sniffers.
If the only thing a person knows about Colombia is Escobar, cocaine and prepagos, they don't know anything about Colombia.
Mr Enternational
06-30-17, 02:27
In this thread, you may have a point. But as useful as this thread is, it represents a tiny portion of the people, and too many of the posters have a very narrow education.You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.
I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?
Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.
Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.
So tomorrow I have another one from photoprepagos planned for the two remaining days I have here. We will see how that goes. There is always the risk they are cute on the messaging and get mechanical when in person. That chemistry again. I hope it will work out. I had good experiences with that scheme.For chemistry and TLN I would give the Centro strip clubs another chance (sounds like you didn't make it to them anyway) With a Prepago it is going to be very hit or miss if you get a good one, could be old or touched up pics or just a girl who is very photogenic but not as hot in person. Plus she can be a wacko or a snow queen.
At the strip clubs you'll be able to sit and drink with a few different girls and find one that floats your boat. I found one in Conejitas who is still my fav in MED, we WhatsApp all the time and I'll see her next time I am there, she is always happy and sweet and GFE with me, plus knockout gorgeous to me.
Try:
Conejitas Show Bar.
CL. 53 #51-41 (NW across street from Plaza Botero).
And.
Barra Ejecutiva.
Calle 53 #48-20.
If you find nothing at 1st wait or come back, new girls showing up all the time.
YippieKayay
06-30-17, 04:34
So it looks like the Beer Store by parque Lleras has fully embraced hookers. There are at least three of them in there after 10 PM. It's not a big venue but I haven't seen them sit around so clearly before. The usual. They don't approach you. Just sit near you.
There's a third possibility. Maybe you don't understand. I'll try to use small words.
If you own a home and you rent that home to another person, they are a guest in your home. If you live in a different home, they are still a guest in your home. If you live in another city or another country, they are still a guest in your home. No matter how many homes you own, each one is your home and each person staying in each home is a guest in your home.
Are you still with me?
Most AirBnB hosts own only a few rental properties. Many live nearby, others are renting properties that they inherited from family members. Many others are just faceless investors. No matter what their connection to the property, they have an interest in what goes on there. What happens there can affect their income. It can affect their reputation. It can affect their friendships.
Because guest behavior can affect the owner, the owner has rules. Some have lots of rules. Some have few rules. Some have rules that aren't written because they don't think anyone will break those rules. Their home, their rules, their rights.
Those rules don't disappear because the owner is 1000 miles away. Those rules don't change when the owner is sleeping, or during a full moon. Those rules the guest is expected to respect.
Have I lost you yet?
A person with some sense should question their own behavior. You should ask yourself "how will other people feel about my activities?" Most of us do this. We don't pick up a prostitute and bring her home for Christmas dinner. We know that certain behavior needs to be kept from the eyes of friends and family.
Why do people, when they travel to another country, suddenly assume that all the hidden behavior is now perfectly okay? Why is the AirBnB host a bad person because they won't allow things that you won't allow in your own home?
Colombia (and many other places) is a great country. You can have a great time. Beautiful places, beautiful women and the prices are very reasonable. You can have a great time and still treat the people who live here with respect.
If each monger who came to Colombia showed respect for the people there wouldn't be a "say no to sex tourism" campaign, there would be a lot less issues and everyone would have a better time.I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.
You are losing focus. This is International Sex Guide, not CulturalExchange punto com. People come here to find out about getting laid, not to sharpen their knowledge of other countries.
I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?
Even me with an MBA in International Business focusing on Brazil and Latin America could not tell you a damn thing about Paraguay and Bolivia simply because I have never needed to know. If something were to pique my interest in those places (such as Pablo Escobar does Colombia for many foreigners) then I would do research and find out more. But as of now I have a very narrow education as far as those places are concerned. You got to start somewhere, and you can't knock someone for not knowing something or not being as passionate about something as you are.
Even my last semester of grad school studying in France I had a classmate there with me who only wanted to party. He didn't want to learn anything about the French culture or do any sightseeing. He said he would worry about shit like that when he got married and had a family.You're right. Most of the guys who come here are looking for someone to take them by the hand, count out the money for them and help guide their dick into the hole of their choice. They read 3 posts on the forum, then say "I looked, but can't find any information. Please help me. " They get here and complain nobody speaks English, eat at McDonald's and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan that Medellin isn't like PC, or Rio, or wherever else they've been. And everybody who has to put up with them is left with a bad impression.
And slowly Medellin loses its appeal.
I don't know much about Paraguay either, because I have no plans to go there. If that changes, I will know a lot about Paraguay before my passport is stamped. There is no excuse to not know. In the palm of your hand is access to a thousand libraries of information about Colombia, or any other country.
I'm not knocking anyone for not being passionate about a place. I'm knocking people who choose ignorance over knowledge and then brag that ignorance is better.
I have 55 Airbnb stays. Almost half of those are in Colombia. So far none of them had a problem with bringing a woman in. When I stay in Medellin, only one of the places had a doorman. But every apartment in the building is owned by mongers. My friend owns two apartments in that building, his monger friend owns 5 or 6 apartments, and I hear stories about the other mongers that own apartments there. If there is no doorman, there is "no problem" for sure. The building that is owned by mongers is across the street from Hotel Mediterrneo. There is absolutely no shame for bringing a girl back with you in that apartment building, even though that building has a front desk staff. If you want no shame or problems with Airbnb look for places with no doormen.That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.
That's great advice. If you're here to monger, choose a place close to the action where mongering is expected. You'll have a lot fewer problems. However, if you pick a place away from the action with a 24 hour porteria, and try to treat it like a love motel, you're going to have issues.The auto spell correction on this website keeps changing the spelling. The apartment building which is owned by mongers is across the street from the Spanish named version of Mediterranean Hotel. The building is almost on the corner of Calle 41 A and Carrera 70.
Hasideas Tao
06-30-17, 18:37
Back to the OP on the subject. The poster asked which strip clubs have the wildest and hottest shows. If you're looking for a wild and hot stage show, Colombia is probably not your first choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Colombian strip clubs are mostly just casas where you can have a few drinks while you choose a girl.
Nothing wrong with that, but for the guy looking for a hot and wild stage show, disappointment is coming.I have seen many live sex shows, shaving cream show and lesbian acts at various centro strip clubs including sandiego.
JamesPearle
06-30-17, 18:56
If you get pissed off easily and hate answering questions, please stop reading now.
I am brand new on the subject of Colombia. I have been as far south as Panama. Can somebody give a quick run down on how to get initiated. I am looking for lower prices and better quality than I can get in USA. I want to be knee deep in 9's and 10's for about 7 days in a nice hotel room. I can speak some Spanish. I do not want any risk of getting abducted, beaten, or killed. My budget is around $1500 for food, hotel, and chicas.
Which city in Colombia would you recommend for a first timer? Any other advice?
If you LIVE in that 'Home' & rent that 'Home' to someone else, your point is valid. Otherwise, you are renting a 'house' to someone else. ...Thanks for that explanation, El Mechanico. I got tired of trying to have a conversation with an imbecile. I don't understand JjBee62's reason for being on this site, other than to possibly stroke his ego. I haven't seen a post from him that offers helpful advice, but many attempts to criticize others. His "beautiful model" roommate is probably a centerfold photo from Playboy. I had a few of those roommates when I was a young guy in the military. I question whether he is even in Medellin. He pretends to know details about strip clubs, but has been proven wrong by different people on this site.
Tomorrow, I will arrive in Medellin, and will be staying in an apartment. Initially I found the apartment in airbnb, but I have been there so many times that now I deal directly with the owner. I haven't had any problem in the apartment building no matter who visits me or how long they stay.
YippieKayay
06-30-17, 20:40
As expected even during these early hours there are tons of extranjeros. It's July 4th weekend. Mostly hipsters with their stupid hats. Got enough numbers that I will try to stick to incalls instead of pickups.
Yesterday I saw a group of drunk young gringos in Club Gusto with one boasting that he will pay for his friends date. I guess that's where the 200 USD is coming from that the chicas name as a price. Because when your drunk and in your twenties daddies money is for coke and pussy.
I keep wanting to go to Centro but this stupid non pro Colombiana won't stop inviting me out to eat with her family and other shit. I guess I am too polite to turn down an invitation like that.
I keep wanting to go to Centro but this stupid non pro Colombiana won't stop inviting me out to eat with her family and other shit. I guess I am too polite to turn down an invitation like that.Hehe Careful YippieKayay! She's a b- and she's marking her territory and buddy you are the tree in this story! I'm kidding (just a bit) hope you have a great time.
Hasideas Tao
06-30-17, 23:26
I keep wanting to go to Centro but this stupid non pro Colombiana won't stop inviting me out to eat with her family and other shit. I guess I am too polite to turn down an invitation like that.Too polite? You must enjoy it if you're going. To me those are the more interesting experiences and opportunities to really feel part of the city. El Centro is there for you when you're ready.
YippieKayay
07-01-17, 00:27
Too polite? You must enjoy it if you're going. To me those are the more interesting experiences and opportunities to really feel part of the city. El Centro is there for you when you're ready.I try to limit it to one real activity per visit or it ends up eating all my time. But you're right. These kinds of things are worth it in the end.
Thanks for that explanation, El Mechanico. I got tired of trying to have a conversation with an imbecile. I don't understand JjBee62's reason for being on this site, other than to possibly stroke his ego. I haven't seen a post from him that offers helpful advice, but many attempts to criticize others. His "beautiful model" roommate is probably a centerfold photo from Playboy. I had a few of those roommates when I was a young guy in the military. I question whether he is even in Medellin. He pretends to know details about strip clubs, but has been proven wrong by different people on this site.
Tomorrow, I will arrive in Medellin, and will be staying in an apartment. Initially I found the apartment in airbnb, but I have been there so many times that now I deal directly with the owner. I haven't had any problem in the apartment building no matter who visits me or how long they stay.Nope, I'm not in Medellin. Never been. My bedroom window does not give a view of Jumbo Las Vegas and in the distance, the Ayura Metro station, and it didn't just finish raining. This morning I wasn't at the Migracion Colombia office out on the west side. Last night I didn't take the centerfold out of an old Playboy to Centro Comercial Santa Fe, because she had a craving to eat at Montolivos. While I wasn't there, I didn't notice a new place in the food court called "Chip Time" that has, among other things, Poutine on the menu. I also didn't hit the Davivienda cajero this morning at Jumbo Las Vegas (the one on the bottom level, not the one upstairs. This afternoon I didn't leave my apartment on the Avenida Poblado side (and didn't climb the 60 steps to get up to the Avenida Poblado gate) and didn't catch the northbound yellow Envigado buseta for 2000 pesos (the white buses are 2100 pesos) for a return to Santa Fe because I had an urge for Crepes why Waffles. After the lunch I didn't have, I didn't walk home past San Remo casino, the Specialized Concept store (where I didn't buy a Specialized Rockhopper 4 weeks ago), Jenos Pizza (with the big play place) and Clinica Campestre.
Yep, you figured me out. For the past 84 days, I've just been making up everything, from arepas to a pair of size 12 Nikes purchased at Mayorca Mega Plaza (because I couldn't find Skechers in my size). Everything from my Bauker drill to my Imusa blender, my desk and chair from Tugo (conveniently located on the west side of Jumbo) and my bed from Fabricas Unidas in Itagui are all just make believe.
I didn't spend 2 nights in hotels (Hotel Porton Medellin and Poblado Plaza) because my centerfold (I guess sometime after July 2010) had her mother (probably some issue in the mid 1980's) and grandmother (mid 1960's playmate?) came with Ms. 2010's boyfriend for a 3 day weekend, even though I reviewed both hotels here. I didn't visit Energy spa, also reviewed here and haven't eaten at the several restaurants reviewed in the Medellin chit chat thread.
Are you finished questioning whether or not I'm in Medellin? I was wrong about one thing, strip clubs. My information was based upon 1 waste of time strip club experience in Medellin and the fact that there has not been a positive review of any strip club show here. I assumed, because no one had mentioned a good show, that they all matched my experience (which is why I haven't been back). I've been corrected. Two people have seen good shows.
As for why I'm here. I first came here to get information. I was considering a visit and wanted to learn what I could. Before that trip happened a different pullout Playboy centerfold offered me a job I couldn't pass up. An added incentive was to share an apartment (for a ridiculously low cost) with the other centerfold. For a piece of glossy magazine stock, she sure eats a lot.
Since my arrival, I've tried to share what I've learned. I realize that I haven't added to the 9 reviews per month for New Life and Fase II, but how many times per week do you need to see the same review? I'm not doing 24/7 mongering. I have work to do, I'm still trying to fill the empty spots in this apartment and I'm trying to get back in shape. Besides, my friends keep me entertained.
However, and this may surprise you, not everyone on this page spends all their time fucking. Some like to do some sightseeing, visit different restaurants or find different things to do instead of trying to use as many condoms per day as possible. If they ask questions I try to answer.
Yes, I'm critical of people. If they say something I feel is wrong, or if they encourage behavior I feel is bad, I say something. Which gets us to the AirBnB subject. Whether you call it a house or home, the owner has every right to disapprove of certain guests or activities. It's up to the guest to make sure anything outside the mainstream is going to be allowed.
Now, if you're coming to town, I'll happily buy you a beer and show I'm not a bad guy. But I won't bring my roommate.
Now, if you're coming to town, I'll happily buy you a beer and show I'm not a bad guy.Yeah but being busy would you really want to meet to prove that? Doubtful.
But I won't bring my roommate.Strike three!
I love taking the Metrocable up to Parque Arvi. Take the nature trail and check out all the orchids. You can go to the other end of the line- take the San Javier line to the end, and it has a Metrocable that goes way up into the western hills and suburbs. Great ride!
Is it worth the trip? Nice view? Any food / souvenirs vendors?
It's the A line to the K line to the L line, right?
Once you get off the regular subway do the metro cable cars feel safe crime-wise?
Yeah but being busy would you really want to meet to prove that? Doubtful.
Strike three!I've got no problem meeting with anyone for lunch, dinner or a beer. I can always make time. Fortunately, my work gives me lots of flexibility, when I need it.
As for bringing my roommate. Would you bring your sister or daughter to hang out with another monger? So I'm a bad person because I don't want a good friend to hang out with someone who potentially thinks she's available for a price? If I've met someone and they've shown they can behave in a reasonable manner, maybe then. Certainly not a random stranger from ISG.
It's an open offer, no matter your opinion of it.
YippieKayay
07-01-17, 10:11
I won't mention the name of the business but they literally have what appear to be several hookers sit around at empty seats. They will smile and try to get your attention although local couples or groups it appears aren't targeted just dudes.
The waiter who knows me as a regular explained they are paid to entice customers to spend more on drinks. He also said that it would be over in a few months.
I wonder if they can be fucked (they honestly look like hookers) and if this is meant to copy Club Gusto. I am betting it's yes on both.
BTW, the same exact woman who wanted 600 k for short time out of Club Gusto went for 200 k when I saw her outside THE SAME NIGHT. I got her number and told her as long as she is available I will bang her once a day until she leaves because she is fine. The promise to bang her everyday was not a condition of the price.
Club Gusto has excellent service and a nice atmosphere but the pricing makes it a clip joint and it's become a place where club rejects from North America come down and wear their stupid Bling.
I took a quick swing to check out La Mayorista on my trip this past May, and couldn't quite locate the block. I walked around the centro commercial, saw lots of trucking companies and whatnot, but never did see any hotels or girls. I'm guessing I was a block shy or to one side. Could you share a little more specific directions to the block in question? Much appreciated!
Hi all,
I'm typing for speed so please excuse a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I can say with no ego that I don't speak Spanish. Yes, it is harder without knowing Spanish in Medellin. But I get by with loose words string together from my limited vocab and some funny desperate arm movements / gestures with a smile. I am also of a skin complexion that can seen from a mile away. I cannot blend in or hide in a crowd and that makes things interesting. All in all, I adjusted my expectations and take things as it is. I'm a budget kind of guy. This isn't everyone's idea of a vacation. I can see why being a baller and spending lots of money can be fun. But I am not that guy. Since my outcome per girl can wildly differ, I keep track of cost per session, cost per hour, and cost per enjoyment for maximum dollar efficiency. Budgeting is how I can afford this vacation anyway, so old habits die hard. My method with chicas is a large number of on hand auditioning, which I promote the winners upward. Large pools are collected from low end casas which is my preference. (at least 4 a day) Slumming it like this isn't everyone's cup of tea. It can be an exhausting method with varying results. For me, the important thing is to find girls with the "it" factor, enjoying them at the lowest cost possible. Attitude, skill, and enthusiasm is really important in my chicas. Last time I found 5 girls with "it" factors and had a busy rotation. Sometimes I find none which can be depressing. It's my second day back in Medellin, and I am happy I found one "it" girl. So when you read this, please adjust your expectations to your own circumstance. Also I'm just a few trips in and not a pro like most of the gents who post reports, so be kind. I got a hotel in the La Mayorista area because I wanted to see what it was like. La Mayorista isn't bad. The plus side is you can get 6, 7 or even 8 level girls easily from down the street. The main action in on a single block which is a lot smaller than centro but feels manageable. Also I haven't been harassed by a beggar once which is really awesome. Less Trans in the mix too..
Here's a couple resources you might want to consider for upping your Spanish-.
https://www.amazon.com/Dictionary-Spanish-Barrons-Michael-Mahler/dp/0764106198/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1498910734&sr=8-23&keywords=spanish+slang+book.
FWIW, Colombian, and especially Medellin Spanish is considerably different from most Spanish. The real killer is the manner they pronounce to double "l"'s- every where else they're a "why", but in Medellin it's pronounced as a "J". This is especially difficult when you consider many, if not most of the major nouns are double l's- llegar, llama, etc. You have to really train your ear to pick it up.
https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Colombian-Spanish-Vocabulary-Guides/dp/0983840555/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1498910725&sr=8-6&keywords=spanish+slang+book.
In all Latin countries we use different slang words.
Culiar is universal though it refers to the movement we make with our ass, it is pretty vulgar so you should only say it to someone you already know, colombians use pichar more often or sometimes cojer but is more often used in Mexico..
For those who have a lot of time on the ground, please enlighten me on some factors which should be considered in selecting a Colombian bank. Which bank has the most flexibility? Most ATMs? Most usable debit cards in other countries? Best customer service? Most bilingual (including English)? Most internet-friendly? Best in Medellin in particular? Etc, etc?
Thanks!
I took a quick swing to check out La Mayorista on my trip this past May, and couldn't quite locate the block. I walked around the centro commercial, saw lots of trucking companies and whatnot, but never did see any hotels or girls. I'm guessing I was a block shy or to one side. Could you share a little more specific directions to the block in question? Much appreciated!You need to go a few blocks further west past Centro Comercial Mayorista to get to the right area.
I took a quick swing to check out La Mayorista on my trip this past May, and couldn't quite locate the block. I walked around the centro commercial, saw lots of trucking companies and whatnot, but never did see any hotels or girls. I'm guessing I was a block shy or to one side. Could you share a little more specific directions to the block in question? Much appreciated!Calle 85 at Carr50 A.
Mr Enternational
07-01-17, 21:02
For those who have a lot of time on the ground, please enlighten me on some factors which should be considered in selecting a Colombian bank. Which bank has the most flexibility? Most ATMs? Most usable debit cards in other countries? Best customer service? Most bilingual (including English)? Most internet-friendly? Best in Medellin in particular? Etc, etc?Maybe should have asked as well what type of visa is needed to open such an account.
I love taking the Metrocable up to Parque Arvi. Take the nature trail and check out all the orchids. You can go to the other end of the line- take the San Javier line to the end, and it has a Metrocable that goes way up into the western hills and suburbs. Great ride!Oh yeah, we had a blast, took the old Ford bus out to the butterfly garden and lake and went boating with the girls.
Maybe should have asked as well what type of visa is needed to open such an account.Mr. E,
I got a TP-7 visa and the Consular Officer who approved me said that I could open a bank account once I obtain my cedula extranjero. So, I'm guessing all of the TP class visas (1 yr) are able to do so. Pero I think the cedula trumps the visa or probably indicates visa status in some way, I don't know. Any insight into the original questions?
Sorry to break the long stream of non-report commentary, but call me old fashioned in adhering to the title of this thread, Medellin REPORTS. No offense intended, and I have no problem with the commentary at all, but am I the only one who thinks it deserves to be in the chit chat thread which might make information seeking and finding a whole lot easier for everyone? I've been back in Colombia the last five weeks for work in several parts of the country. I was in and out of Medellin on four separate occasions and tried to make the most of my free time there to enjoy the always sexy Colombianas. With limited time, convenience ruled the day, and I followed tried and true routes. So there's really nothing new here, but perhaps some recommendations.
On a Sunday afternoon, with just a few free hours, options were a bit limited so I made centro casas run. I made the rounds and visited six, each with a few decent choices, but no one that grabbed me until Aiffe, Calle 57 #43-27, where I went with Nataly, a flacita morena with an Indian, as in the country India, looking face and long black hair. A little shy at first but she warmed up and it was a very good session. The 70 k for the hour might as well have been free for my budget. Extra for a very good BBBJ.
On a Friday afternoon, went to my favorite casa, Energy, Carrera 74, #49-101. The price seems to go up about 10 k each year and they're now at 140 k for the hour. Perhaps pricey for MDE but still cheap for my budget and well worth it to me for the selection, the nice neighborhood, the cleanliness, etc. About 12 girls working, but only a couple did it for me. Went with a very young looking, slim morena, Sofia. Smoking hard body with small perky tits, very cute face with a great smile, and reasonably sexy attitude. I was really into her body, and it was an excellent session. Extra for BBBJ.
Another Sunday afternoon with little free time and no time to wander around, went to chicaspuntocom in the centro. Mediocre selection. I should have bailed but was really horny and went with Juliana, a petite morena with a cute face. Unremarkable 30 minute session for I think 50 k. Though I've had some good sessions there, the sleaze of the centro is starting to lose its appeal for me. I know things change all the time, but of the six centro casas I visited, the selections were generally mediocre for my tastes.
On a Saturday afternoon went back to Energy where there was a good selection of about 13 girls. Among them, there were about 5 that I really liked. But there was one, Catalina, that I knew I would choose as soon as I saw her face and smile. The short story is that she is gorgeous, and it was pretty much as good as it gets in terms of super-hot GFE with an amazing Colombiana. Outstanding foreplay, DATY, DFK, BBBJ, etc. The only downside is that girls like Catalina just set the bar so fucking high. Same 140 k for the hour plus extra for BBBJ. Got her number.
After a week out of town, I returned to Medellin for a one evening plus one day. Went back to Energy and went with Xiomara who I had seen there before and had put on my to-do list, mostly because she had a fantastic smile, nice dark skin, and a gorgeous flowing mane of thick glossy, long, black hair. I was very much in the mood for a full figured girl and she fit the bill with beautiful large natural tits and a big round ass. She was one of those girls who had great control of her pussy muscles, and she used them to great effect with impeccable timing, knowing just when to squeeze and just when to let up. Very sweet and an excellent one hour session. Extra for an outstanding BBBJ.
Fortunately Catalina was free to come to my hotel on my last day. Hotel Medellin Royal in the Poblado is chica friendly, as well as clean, modern, quiet, great pool, good buffet breakfast, very good service, etc. She shows up a few minutes early, is drop dead gorgeous, and we have another mind-blowing session. She's smart, very sweet, can chat about a lot of things, and is fun to be with, very much in a girl next door way. And then she's a fiery dynamo in the sack, and I have to work hard to keep up. Her blowjob and titty-fucking skills are superb. She stayed for about an hour and a half, and the vitamin V really helped as we were going at it hard for just over an hour. Though work took up most o my time, it was a perfect ending to another great trip to Colombia. Unfortunatley Catalina has ruined me for a while, at least for the next three sex-free weeks before I head to Brazil for a month! All girls Spanish speaking only.
I took a quick swing to check out La Mayorista on my trip this past May, and couldn't quite locate the block. I walked around the centro commercial, saw lots of trucking companies and whatnot, but never did see any hotels or girls. I'm guessing I was a block shy or to one side. Could you share a little more specific directions to the block in question? Much appreciated!What ever happened to that guy Frank who used to peddle his place and guide / introduction services in La Mayorista?
What ever happened to that guy Frank who used to peddle his place and guide / introduction services in La Mayorista?If you are referring to Frank Casio, according to post #20274, he returned to Fla and died.
If you are referring to Frank Casio, according to post #20274, he returned to Fla and died.Thanks for the vector. He gave me my intro to MDE. La Mayorista, strip clubs, centro casas, and MDE overall. I sensed he was a bit "off tilt" as I like to say, but in general a fun loving and decent guy. Too bad MDE didn't work out for him.
I would assert that most of the world has a very narrow education. I was talking online to a chick in Bogota last night. I told her I was from Atlanta. Since she had never heard of it she asked what time it was there. When I gave her the time she said morning or night. Any geographically inclined person would have already known the USA is right north of Colombia so obviously it would be the same time of day. But why the hell would she know that if she has never needed to know that?
I'm just planning my first trip to MDE and also reside in ATL. Could not not see how to send a PM on here, but wondered if we might get together for a beer one day and share stories. LMK?
YippieKayay
07-02-17, 17:17
So quick update.
I hooked up with a great prepago from Gusto who makes me come within minutes despite having to always wear a condom. The GFE is ridiculous. It's the same one who went from 600 k to 200 k when I saw her again the same night wandering Lleras.
She is always 15 minutes early. Dressed as instructed. Sitting in the lobby waiting for sign in. No rush. I haven't had sex like this in a longtime. She is getting 300 k a visit now because she only has to leave around 10 PM to go work the club. By then I am fast asleep anyway.
The other chica I have visiting is great too but as unprofessional as they come. Always hours late. Always needs taxi money Sometimes a total no show. Great body and allows bareback. But I can't put up with her unreliability anymore. I am a reasonable man but have my limits.
All the five chicas I banged including the one out of gusto agree that 600 k for short time is stupid. It's "opportunista. " And as far as I can tell the women you see there are independent. The chicas don't pay to work the floor. Just show up.
Haven't had a need to go by Centro yet. With the exchange rate this isn't too expensive to pay 300 k to spend the day with a prepago.
Mr Enternational
07-02-17, 17:59
With the exchange rate this isn't too expensive to pay 300 k to spend the day with a prepago.But if the exchange rate goes back to 1600 pesos to 1 USD again, are you going to tell them that you can only give them 150,000 for all day.
YippieKayay
07-02-17, 18:17
But if the exchange rate goes back to 1600 pesos to 1 USD again, are you going to tell them that you can only give them 150,000 for all day.I bet you will see their prices go down. I noticed these prepagos are very aware of what 100 USD is.
BTW. I totally think you can get them at even 150 k from Gusto but it will be short time with them running back to the club.
Friday night there were a dozen guys there in some group hitting Google translate hard. They looked astonished. Two left with chicas and I overheard them in the elevator talking about going to the ATM machine with the girls grinning ear to ear.
Drugs are everywhere this weekend. I saw a girl step out of the ladies room in gusto snorting quite hard.
This morning I headed over to Laureles to meet up with a monger. He's an experienced guy and a good guy to hang with. He can name himself if he wants.
After a few beers and a lot if talk he wanted to hit Cento. We flagged down a taxi and headed that way. After a quick trip and a short walk we hit one of his favorite spots. Unfortunately I wasnt checking addresses and names so don't know where we were.
Once inside we went to the waiting room where a Colombian was already waiting. 3 girls came for inspection. The Colombian and the other monger picked one, but the only remaining chica didn't impress me. I resigned myself to drinking water and waiting. After a few minutes another girl showed up. She looked better so I pulled the trigger. Rooms were very basic. Cost was 40 k for 30 minutes.
Her face was about a 7. The body looked like a 9 with clothes on and a 5. 5 when they came off. She was enthusiastic and went through all the positions with no problems. Afterwards, we walked for a few and talked for a bit. He went in search of more and I headed back to the Metro for the ride home.
The area. I didn't feel threatened in the late afternoon. Even took a few detours on the way back and it was fine. However, I wouldn't recommend getting off the main streets, especially at night.
After a brief stop home, caught the bus up to Parque Poblado and walked up to Lleras for dinner. Lots of people walking but most places were pretty empty. Saw a few chicas that may have been working. It was still early, so it probably picked up after I left.
YippieKayay
07-03-17, 06:21
Cops are straight up harassing hookers in Lleras. I keep seeing scantily clad women being questioned by 2-3 cops. Bummer.
YippieKayay
07-03-17, 13:32
This chica is certifiable.
This chica is certifiable.Great spanish, LOL just kidding 𗀄
Mr Enternational
07-03-17, 20:52
This chica is certifiable.From your Spanish it appears you meant this chico is certifiable!
The Tall Man
07-03-17, 21:53
I bet you will see their prices go down. I noticed these prepagos are very aware of what 100 USD is.
BTW. I totally think you can get them at even 150 k from Gusto but it will be short time with them running back to the club.
Friday night there were a dozen guys there in some group hitting Google translate hard. They looked astonished. Two left with chicas and I overheard them in the elevator talking about going to the ATM machine with the girls grinning ear to ear.
Drugs are everywhere this weekend. I saw a girl step out of the ladies room in gusto snorting quite hard.I see your comment about Gusto, I spent 2 long evenings in this bar this past April and my observations of the prepagos sitting at the bar and available for conversation was that they are too fake and experienced high mileage hard core escorts, just not my type as for me there is nothing better than the girl next door type of which kind there are hundreds of thousand just in Medellin that fit the bill.
I write this as I sit here in Tijuana spending my 4th of July vacation in the bars (Hong Kong), and where you can find sexy, sweet and young Latinas all to my liking.
Have fun!
YippieKayay
07-03-17, 22:28
I see your comment about Gusto, I spent 2 long evenings in this bar this past April and my observations of the prepagos sitting at the bar and available for conversation was that they are too fake and experienced high mileage hard core escorts, just not my type as for me there is nothing better than the girl next door type of which kind there are hundreds of thousand just in Medellin that fit the bill.
I agree with your characterization. Some of them were behaving so high and mighty it was a real turn off. I should have just hit up Fase Dos at night. Would have spent about the same anyway.
In any case end of next month I am going to do the coast. Far less attitude in Cartagena and nearby cities.
I agree with your characterization. Some of them were behaving so high and mighty it was a real turn off. I should have just hit up Fase Dos at night. Would have spent about the same anyway.
In any case end of next month I am going to do the coast. Far less attitude in Cartagena and nearby cities.Hey,
Now, I never get any attitude in MDE, but I stay out of Poblado, Laureles, etc.
Both the street girls and strip club girls have been sweet, even the super hot one at FaseII was sweet. But then I never call them "Hermoso". Instead of "Hermosa". LOL:.
Hasideas Tao
07-04-17, 00:08
Oh yeah, we had a blast, took the old Ford bus out to the butterfly garden and lake and went boating with the girls.Thanks for sharing!
Nice adventure with sexy company makes for a perfect day in Medellin. Simple.
For those who have a lot of time on the ground, please enlighten me on some factors which should be considered in selecting a Colombian bank. Which bank has the most flexibility? Most ATMs? Most usable debit cards in other countries? Best customer service? Most bilingual (including English)? Most internet-friendly? Best in Medellin in particular? Etc, etc?
Thanks!The answer to almost all your questions is Bancolombia. For foreigners, that is the most practical. The online banking is so so but the app works flawlessly. Don't waste your time with the rest of the banks.
Sorry to break the long stream of non-report commentary, but call me old fashioned in adhering to the title of this thread, Medellin REPORTS. ,
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! All girls Spanish speaking only.Very good report. Thank you.
Hasideas Tao
07-04-17, 01:04
So quick update.
It's the same one who went from 600 k to 200 k when I saw her again the same night wandering Lleras. She is getting 300 k a visit now because she only has to leave around 10 PM to go work the club.
All the five chicas I banged including the one out of gusto agree that 600 k for short time is stupid. It's "opportunista. " And as far as I can tell the women you see there are independent. The chicas don't pay to work the floor. Just show up.
Haven't had a need to go by Centro yet. With the exchange rate this isn't too expensive to pay 300 k to spend the day with a prepago.Numbers get thrown around and publicized a lot. IT gets into your subconscious and it never seems to be in a way that favors my position.
So I would like to throw around a few of my own. Centro casas are avg 38 mil for a 30 minute get to know you test drive. I have met so many great girls this way. I admit it is not for everyone as there is a lot of walking and a bit of patience to find someone I would like to see outside of their workplace. But when I do, there has not been one who refuses 100 mil to meet me at my place. Sometimes I offer 80 mil + taxis. I play it by ear. Everything is negotiable. My new friends will almost always hang out for 2+ hours. I always tell them they can leave when they want. I usually cook something or invite them for a drink or lunch or whatever. Like a regular person. Most will come back when I invite them. Some will hound me, when are we getting together again. Some I never hear from again.
Centro strip clubs are open until 2 am sun-wed and often close earlier. I have NEVER had a problem taking a girl back to my place for 100 when the place closes up or inviting them for another day via whatsapp. I did this in san diego show once in the past year. But I rarely go to san diego show.
Facebook girls who I have never met seem to ask 150 - 200 plus taxi. I always counter with 100. Some laugh and I unfriend. Some accept this or negotiate to at least confirm the extra taxi money. Most end up making the date. Sometimes I go up to the 150 but at this stage of my game, I have enough girls who rock it for 100 or less in my little black book, I have to be very intrigued to promise 150. I would like to add many facebook girls do not talk about money and will still make plans to meet up in public some where. Lucky me, some aren't looking for money. Some will accept whatever I give them, and some will discuss it over the beer or coffee when we finally meet. Most accept 100. Some fight for the 150.
A visiting buddy of mine called a 18 yr old flaca from photoprepagos for 150+ taxi for an hour. She hung out with us for about 30 minutes until they went to his bedroom. He has since left and given me her contact. Having met her I told her I have a small group of amigitas and I always give them 100 if she would be ok with that to visit me. She said, what about the taxi. I said no problem. And there is no problem. I am happy to add her to the roster and she seems happy to be on the team. LOL.
A girl working in a bakery all day on her feet gets paid max 45 mil pesos a day. She has to pay her own metro passages. She has to bring or pay for her own food. Some get paid weekly some get paid every two weeks.
So when a barrio girl thinks she can ask for 150 mil+ its because its what her gaggle of friends told her to do. If you have any patience or negotiating skills, they will accept a lot less because they know it is a lot. Average barrio rent is 200-400 mil a month. And most of them do not live alone so they are sharing this already very low rent. Granted, some girls are hardened and they know that if they hold out for their number they will get it. Honestly, those are NOT the girls I want to me meeting.
ITs a numbers game. Guys get all gaga over a few sexy facebook photos that are filtered to death! Face to face always gives you the best negotiating power. Also, never forgetting this is still by far a buyers market. 200 mil is NOT the norm. I think for a spontaneous anonymous hook up, 150 mil is the norm. For a face to face strip club hook up, or for a second or third date I would expect a break on the price. I promise, if you are repeating with a girl consecutive times and giving her 150 mil+ each time, she will subconsciously feel she does not deserve it and your relationship with her will likely suffer.
Face to face on the street for a short time, I don't care if she is a street worker or just a hot chica walking down the street running errands, 50-100 mil is the norm with a curve for your ability to negotiate and convince them your are a nice guy.
Mr Enternational
07-04-17, 02:00
I write this as I sit here in Tijuana spending my 4th of July vacation in the bars (Hong Kong), and where you can find sexy, sweet and young Latinas all to my liking.How do you get a phone signal there to write? I always lose mine when I go inside.
Numbers get thrown around and publicized a lot. IT gets into your subconscious and it never seems to be in a way that favors my position.
So I would like to throw around a few of my own. Centro casas are avg 38 mil for a 30 minute get to know you test drive. I have met so many great girls this way. I admit it is not for everyone as there is a lot of walking and a bit of patience to find someone I would like to see outside of their workplace. But when I do, there has not been one who refuses 100 mil to meet me at my place. Sometimes I offer 80 mil + taxis. I play it by ear. Everything is negotiable. My new friends will almost always hang out for 2+ hours. I always tell them they can leave when they want. I usually cook something or invite them for a drink or lunch or whatever. Like a regular person. Most will come back when I invite them. Some will hound me, when are we getting together again. Some I never hear from again.
Centro strip clubs are open until 2 am sun-wed and often close earlier. I have NEVER had a problem taking a girl back to my place for 100 when the place closes up or inviting them for another day via whatsapp. I did this in san diego show once in the past year. But I rarely go to san diego show.
Facebook girls who I have never met seem to ask 150 - 200 plus taxi. I always counter with 100. Some laugh and I unfriend. Some accept this or negotiate to at least confirm the extra taxi money. Most end up making the date. Sometimes I go up to the 150 but at this stage of my game, I have enough girls who rock it for 100 or less in my little black book, I have to be very intrigued to promise 150. I would like to add many facebook girls do not talk about money and will still make plans to meet up in public some where. Lucky me, some aren't looking for money. Some will accept whatever I give them, and some will discuss it over the beer or coffee when we finally meet. Most accept 100. Some fight for the 150.
A visiting buddy of mine called a 18 yr old flaca from photoprepagos for 150+ taxi for an hour. She hung out with us for about 30 minutes until they went to his bedroom. He has since left and given me her contact. Having met her I told her I have a small group of amigitas and I always give them 100 if she would be ok with that to visit me. She said, what about the taxi. I said no problem. And there is no problem. I am happy to add her to the roster and she seems happy to be on the team. LOL.
A girl working in a bakery all day on her feet gets paid max 45 mil pesos a day. She has to pay her own metro passages. She has to bring or pay for her own food. Some get paid weekly some get paid every two weeks.
So when a barrio girl thinks she can ask for 150 mil+ its because its what her gaggle of friends told her to do. If you have any patience or negotiating skills, they will accept a lot less because they know it is a lot. Average barrio rent is 200-400 mil a month. And most of them do not live alone so they are sharing this already very low rent. Granted, some girls are hardened and they know that if they hold out for their number they will get it. Honestly, those are NOT the girls I want to me meeting.
ITs a numbers game. Guys get all gaga over a few sexy facebook photos that are filtered to death! Face to face always gives you the best negotiating power. Also, never forgetting this is still by far a buyers market. 200 mil is NOT the norm. I think for a spontaneous anonymous hook up, 150 mil is the norm. For a face to face strip club hook up, or for a second or third date I would expect a break on the price. I promise, if you are repeating with a girl consecutive times and giving her 150 mil+ each time, she will subconsciously feel she does not deserve it and your relationship with her will likely suffer.
Face to face on the street for a short time, I don't care if she is a street worker or just a hot chica walking down the street running errands, 50-100 mil is the norm with a curve for your ability to negotiate and convince them your are a nice guy.Good information! I admit I have zero casa experience. IYO, do these girls look as attractive on average as say a Fase Dos girl?
Hasideas Tao
07-04-17, 13:33
Good information! I admit I have zero casa experience. IYO, do these girls look as attractive on average as say a Fase Dos girl?No!
Although I do not like to encourage too much window shopping, it does take more patience visiting various casas to find someone you like. At fase dos I am sure you can find someone you will think is "hot" a lot easier. However, in my experience, while a Fase 2 girl can be a lot of fun, it will be more difficult to get a sincere experience and a real connection. A casa girl will usually be more down to earth.
Good information! I admit I have zero casa experience. IYO, do these girls look as attractive on average as say a Fase Dos girl?Not all Fase Dos girls are hot. In the casas, there are many good looking ones and many not so good looking ones. Each casa usually have a couple of hotties.
Not all Fase Dos girls are hot. In the casas, there are many good looking ones and many not so good looking ones. Each casa usually have a couple of hotties.For most, the goal isn't to find the average girl in a place. If you're happy with a 5-7, shop the streetwalkers. If you're looking for a 6-8, hit the casas. If you want a 7-10 hit the high end spots, Fase II, Energy, Facebook, SA or the escort services. Why pay the price for a 9 or 10, when you're happy with a 5? Why waste your time looking for a 10 on the street?
The downside is that a 9 or 10 might give a crappy performance and a 5 or 6 might give a great one.
For most, the goal isn't to find the average girl in a place. If you're happy with a 5-7, shop the streetwalkers. If you're looking for a 6-8, hit the casas. If you want a 7-10 hit the high end spots, Fase II, Energy, Facebook, SA or the escort services. Why pay the price for a 9 or 10, when you're happy with a 5? Why waste your time looking for a 10 on the street?
The downside is that a 9 or 10 might give a crappy performance and a 5 or 6 might give a great one.Let the chuuch say Amen!
Mr Enternational
07-04-17, 18:26
For most, the goal isn't to find the average girl in a place. If you're happy with a 5-7, shop the streetwalkers. If you're looking for a 6-8, hit the casas. If you want a 7-10 hit the high end spots, Fase II, Energy, Facebook, SA or the escort services. Why pay the price for a 9 or 10, when you're happy with a 5? Why waste your time looking for a 10 on the street?
The downside is that a 9 or 10 might give a crappy performance and a 5 or 6 might give a great one.To me there is nothing special about a Fase 2 chick. Surgery, a bunch of makeup, and club lighting is not what makes a 10 IMHO. The only reason I ever went there in the first place is because I decided to try it while the peso was in the shitter. When it was 1600 to 1 I would have never walked into the place, but at half price I didn't mind giving it a try.
And like you alluded to, the Fase 2 girl that I spent what 190k (don't remember the prices) on did not hold a candle performance-wise... hell looks wise either... to a 60K DeGreiff chick that I found. What I understand though is that ambiance costs money, although the product may not be superior.
Quagmire1974
07-04-17, 23:00
If you get pissed off easily and hate answering questions, please stop reading now.
I am brand new on the subject of Colombia. I have been as far south as Panama. Can somebody give a quick run down on how to get initiated. I am looking for lower prices and better quality than I can get in USA. I want to be knee deep in 9's and 10's for about 7 days in a nice hotel room. I can speak some Spanish. I do not want any risk of getting abducted, beaten, or killed. My budget is around $1500 for food, hotel, and chicas.
Which city in Colombia would you recommend for a first timer? Any other advice?Well, since nobody has responded to your post, it looks like everyone stopped reading except me. But since you've contributed some trip reports to ISG, I'll give you my thoughts and hopefully they'll help.
How does someone like yourself get initiated on the subject of mongering in Colombia? Simple: research. Take a look at my trip reports. Long before my flights landed in Colombia and Sint Maarten and Hungary and Russia and El Salvador and Mexico, I spent a few hours reading posts on ISG. When a casa or website was referenced in a post, I used Google and Google Chrome to search and learn more about the casas and websites discussed. And I have quickly learned that just a few hours of research makes the difference between mongering success and failure in a foreign country.
In Colombia, I have personally been to San Andres Island, Cartagena, Cali, Bogota, and Medellin, and have mongered in three out of five of those locations, most before I even knew ISG existed (which is why I don't have trip reports for some of those locations). Mongering is similar and different in those locations, so reading posts here on ISG will give you the idea of how to work the system in each one.
If you're not heading to Colombia anytime soon, I suggest you pick up a copy of Lonely Planet Colombia. You don't have to read the entire book, and it will give you a great idea as to the layout of each city, as well as good hotel and restaurant choices. Cross-reference what you discover in Lonely Planet Colombia with a site like TripAdvisor, which can better explain if a hotel or restaurant is a quality place or a dump.
As far as where you should visit in Colombia for the first time, the choice is yours. If you like a tropical vacation and visiting casas at night, go to San Andres Island. If you like good weather and doing the tourism thing during the day and mongering at night, head to Medellin. If you want the same type of mongering as Medellin but sweating your balls off during the day from the heat and humidity, go to Cartagena. If you like even cooler weather with mongering at night, go to Bogota. If you like a smaller city in which to monger and doing the tourism thing isn't important, go to Cali. About the only place I would not suggest going is Barranquilla, which is an industrial city, lacks touristy things to do, and is only worth visiting when Carnival is going on down there.
Feel free to ask me any questions or offer any comments that come to mind. I'm sure others on this forum might agree or disagree with some things that I've said, but that's fine and I've offered you my two cents.
World Travel 69
07-05-17, 00:45
Street Walkers. Calle 85 and Carrera 51, in front of the Hotel Cielo Azul, Ayura Metro Stop, San Fernando. 30-60 Chicas. Prices: 20-30 k 30 min. Hours: Afternoon and best time after 10 pm.
I took a quick swing to check out La Mayorista on my trip this past May, and couldn't quite locate the block. I walked around the centro commercial, saw lots of trucking companies and whatnot, but never did see any hotels or girls. I'm guessing I was a block shy or to one side. Could you share a little more specific directions to the block in question? Much appreciated!
Numbers get thrown around and publicized a lot. IT gets into your subconscious and it never seems to be in a way that favors my position.
So I would like to throw around a few of my own. Centro casas are avg 38 mil for a 30 minute get to know you test drive. I have met so many great girls this way. I admit it is not for everyone as there is a lot of walking and a bit of patience to find someone I would like to see outside of their workplace. But when I do, there has not been one who refuses 100 mil to meet me at my place. Sometimes I offer 80 mil + taxis. I play it by ear. Everything is negotiable. My new friends will almost always hang out for 2+ hours. I always tell them they can leave when they want. I usually cook something or invite them for a drink or lunch or whatever. Like a regular person. Most will come back when I invite them. Some will hound me, when are we getting together again. Some I never hear from again.
Centro strip clubs are open until 2 am sun-wed and often close earlier. I have NEVER had a problem taking a girl back to my place for 100 when the place closes up or inviting them for another day via whatsapp. I did this in san diego show once in the past year. But I rarely go to san diego show.
Facebook girls who I have never met seem to ask 150 - 200 plus taxi. I always counter with 100. Some laugh and I unfriend. Some accept this or negotiate to at least confirm the extra taxi money. Most end up making the date. Sometimes I go up to the 150 but at this stage of my game, I have enough girls who rock it for 100 or less in my little black book, I have to be very intrigued to promise 150. I would like to add many facebook girls do not talk about money and will still make plans to meet up in public some where. Lucky me, some aren't looking for money. Some will accept whatever I give them, and some will discuss it over the beer or coffee when we finally meet. Most accept 100. Some fight for the 150.
A visiting buddy of mine called a 18 yr old flaca from photoprepagos for 150+ taxi for an hour. She hung out with us for about 30 minutes until they went to his bedroom. He has since left and given me her contact. Having met her I told her I have a small group of amigitas and I always give them 100 if she would be ok with that to visit me. She said, what about the taxi. I said no problem. And there is no problem. I am happy to add her to the roster and she seems happy to be on the team. LOL.
A girl working in a bakery all day on her feet gets paid max 45 mil pesos a day. She has to pay her own metro passages. She has to bring or pay for her own food. Some get paid weekly some get paid every two weeks.
So when a barrio girl thinks she can ask for 150 mil+ its because its what her gaggle of friends told her to do. If you have any patience or negotiating skills, they will accept a lot less because they know it is a lot. Average barrio rent is 200-400 mil a month. And most of them do not live alone so they are sharing this already very low rent. Granted, some girls are hardened and they know that if they hold out for their number they will get it. Honestly, those are NOT the girls I want to me meeting.
ITs a numbers game. Guys get all gaga over a few sexy facebook photos that are filtered to death! Face to face always gives you the best negotiating power. Also, never forgetting this is still by far a buyers market. 200 mil is NOT the norm. I think for a spontaneous anonymous hook up, 150 mil is the norm. For a face to face strip club hook up, or for a second or third date I would expect a break on the price. I promise, if you are repeating with a girl consecutive times and giving her 150 mil+ each time, she will subconsciously feel she does not deserve it and your relationship with her will likely suffer.
Face to face on the street for a short time, I don't care if she is a street worker or just a hot chica walking down the street running errands, 50-100 mil is the norm with a curve for your ability to negotiate and convince them your are a nice guy.This should be required reading for those visiting Medellin! Spot on on all issues. If a girl even brings up the USD / peso exchange rate with me, I cut off further conversation / contact with her.
For most, the goal isn't to find the average girl in a place. If you're happy with a 5-7, shop the streetwalkers. If you're looking for a 6-8, hit the casas. If you want a 7-10 hit the high end spots, Fase II, Energy, Facebook, SA or the escort services. Why pay the price for a 9 or 10, when you're happy with a 5? Why waste your time looking for a 10 on the street?
The downside is that a 9 or 10 might give a crappy performance and a 5 or 6 might give a great one.There are plenty of not-that attractive chicas in both Fase II and Energy.
This should be required reading for those visiting Medellin! Spot on on all issues. If a girl even brings up the USD / peso exchange rate with me, I cut off further conversation / contact with her.
There are plenty of not-that attractive chicas in both Fase II and Energy.Absolutely! There are those who say there are lots of 7's and 8's on the streets and 8's and 9's in the casas. But if you're just going after looks, the high end spots are the most fertile ground.
Absolutely! There are those who say there are lots of 7's and 8's on the streets and 8's and 9's in the casas. But if you're just going after looks, the high end spots are the most fertile ground.I don't know about the 8's and 9's in the casas being that common. However the hottest chica I've had in MDE in the last two years was indeed in a Centro casa. Not only a near 10 in looks w a natural body, but a great performer. I extended the sesiand to an hour, but stupidly didn't get her number. Of course she left the casa and seemingly disappeared from the scene.
You are certainly right that, on average, a chica in Fase II will be more atractive than one in a centro casa.
YippieKayay
07-05-17, 15:04
Street Walkers. Calle 85 and Carrera 51, in front of the Hotel Cielo Azul, Ayura Metro Stop, San Fernando. 30-60 Chicas. Prices: 20-30 k 30 min. Hours: Afternoon and best time after 10 pm.That's old info I believe. Prices are between 50-70 k + love motel. I didn't see 30-60 chicas in the afternoon. Maybe at night.
Hasideas Tao
07-05-17, 15:23
Street Walkers. Calle 85 and Carrera 51, in front of the Hotel Cielo Azul, Ayura Metro Stop, San Fernando. 30-60 Chicas. Prices: 20-30 k 30 min. Hours: Afternoon and best time after 10 pm.I have not been to Mayo in a long time. Are you sure about the pricing? I never heard of 20 k for 30 minutes. At least not from anyone I would do.
Many guys don't want to check out Mayo because it is out of the way and they hear it is a "street scene."
Well, true on both counts but its only like 15 mil taxi from centro. Less from Poblado. And as far as street scenes go, it's the most civilized I have experienced. A lot of dogs but usually a few hotties can be found.
Hey combo thanks for the props!
Headed back to Lleras last night for my third and final (for awhile) night of playing gringo. Play wasn't on my agenda because I had an early appointment today.
Met a visiting monger at The Beer Store before heading to another bar. The bar is a couple blocks off the park and is supposed to have a similar business model as Gusto, bring in talent for the customers to pick up. The bar is nice, new furniture, comfortable. It was also dead. There were 2 girls sitting in the corner talking to a guy who worked there and 2 very hot (by my standards) bartenders. Drink prices were about average for the area. Don't knoe prices on the girls. Would be a good place with a few more customers.
Left about 1 am and headed back to the park so my friend could grab a taxi. I prefer to walk down and grab one in front of Parque Poblado. Several good looking compañeras in the park. Stopped and chatted briefly with a few, but didn't ask a price, since I wasn't buying. 2 police on a moto went by while we were talking and just gave a smile and a nod.
My first time in Lleras that late. There are definitely some options that I'd consider on a different night. Might have to wait to find a reasonable price though.
If you get pissed off easily and hate answering questions, please stop reading now.
I am brand new on the subject of Colombia. I have been as far south as Panama. Can somebody give a quick run down on how to get initiated. I am looking for lower prices and better quality than I can get in USA. I want to be knee deep in 9's and 10's for about 7 days in a nice hotel room. I can speak some Spanish. I do not want any risk of getting abducted, beaten, or killed. My budget is around $1500 for food, hotel, and chicas.
Which city in Colombia would you recommend for a first timer? Any other advice?I would advise you to back up one level to the base Colombia forum and read Bogota FAQ posted by Routard and Medellin Lists and Cali Lists posted by WorldTravel69. These are very well put together threads of all (most of what) you need to know for those areas. There may be similar lists in that level for other cities, but I can't remember off hand. Happy hunting!
I have not been to Mayo in a long time. Are you sure about the pricing? I never heard of 20 k for 30 minutes. At least not from anyone I would do.
Many guys don't want to check out Mayo because it is out of the way and they hear it is a "street scene. ".
Well, true on both counts but its only like 15 mil taxi from centro. Less from Poblado. And as far as street scenes go, it's the most civilized I have experienced. A lot of dogs but usually a few hotties can be found.
Hey combo thanks for the props!His pricing sounds about right, I was getting quoted 40-50 k for an hour and someone with better Spanish could probably get a better deal. There was good good selection Monday, that was also a holiday so that probably helped.
YippieKayay
07-05-17, 22:56
Met a visiting monger at The Beer Store before heading to another bar. The bar is a couple blocks off the park and is supposed to have a similar business model as Gusto, bring in talent for the customers to pick up. The bar is nice, new furniture, comfortable. It was also dead. There were 2 girls sitting in the corner talking to a guy who worked there and 2 very hot (by my standards) bartenders. Drink prices were about average for the area. Don't knoe prices on the girls. Would be a good place with a few more customers.
I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.
I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.
Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.
I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.
I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.
Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.I don't know about the Beer Store, but I have been to Gusto Quite a few times. One of the older popular YouTube videos was made by me. I did not stop in there this year, but before that there were no women going there just to work as hookers. I had brought in ladies that were hookers, but not for them to work as hookers. Sometimes there are women that don't go hanging out with guys, but I haven't seen anything shady going on in there. Not all women in bars or clubs in Medellin are hookers.
JamesPearle
07-05-17, 23:31
Wow. A woman "dressed so slutty I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her". I wish you had gotten a picture.
Yeah, the "walk of shame" is not for the faint of heart .
Depending on the person. I however consider it a "walk of fame" and enjoy every step. LOL.
I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.
I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.
Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.
Booked kinda last min my flight back in Feb was American Airlines TPA-MIA-MDE $471. I was stupid and parked at the airport long term, turned out that was $19 a day.
When I flew down in June I did VivaColombia for $230, MIA-MDE-luggage incl. (You can get VivaColombia as low as $180 outa Miami if you can book the right days.) Parking at the Airport Hilton was $6. 50 a day.
Copa does Orlando-MDE for $260+- (via Panama City).
My next trip is on Spirit, TPA-FLL-MDE $306-luggage included-insert BOOOOO! Here, everybody hates Spirit, personally I think they are going to be way better the Air Uzbekistan was, flying in 1970's era Aeroflot cast-off YAK-40's-their motto, "It's always scary!" Parking off property nearby long term lot $5. 75 a day.
But I was looking into flying one of my sweeties up here,(one of my girlies has a American father and can get a Visa) and looking in April I actually found American Airlines for $307 MDE-MIA-TPA.
Any other airlines to consider for low fares?
I don't believe the women there are hookers that go have sex with you. A person working there explained it's to make customers drink more. I didn't talk to the girls there but saw one guy try to pick one up for about 10 minutes and he left empty handed. There was a super hot one I wanted to get but she was coy with me. When I caught her in the back going to the bathroom she smiled and ran into the women's room. That's not typical hooker behavoir especially since it's private back there.
I dunno. One night there was a girl who was all smiles at me but she was dressed in such a sluty way I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her so I didn't make a move.
Would be great if it became a hooker bar but given its proximity to Lleras and how it's an open patio I doubt it will get there.Rumor I had is that the owner of Gusto brings a few in. Word direct from the owner of the other bar, he's paying cab fare to get prepagos in there. I'll give the name and location in PM.
Manizales911
07-06-17, 02:38
(one of my girlies has a American father and can get a Visa) If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.
If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized.
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?
If the girl has an American father she won't be able to get a visa, she is an American citizen at birth and will have to apply for a USA Passport.Of course this all assumes she has proof that she is the child of an American citizen. If the father is not doing his part to claim her, it can be very difficult for the foreign-born person to prove just sanguinis (by blood) citizenship.
Hasideas Tao
07-06-17, 13:56
I don't know about the Beer Store, but I have been to Gusto Quite a few times. One of the older popular YouTube videos was made by me. I did not stop in there this year, but before that there were no women going there just to work as hookers. I had brought in ladies that were hookers, but not for them to work as hookers. Sometimes there are women that don't go hanging out with guys, but I haven't seen anything shady going on in there. Not all women in bars or clubs in Medellin are hookers.Its pretty common to see girls with their girlfriends hanging out in lleras. There are the obvious ones and there are the "classier" ones LOL! And the classier ones are looking for "classier guys. " not all are hookers, as there are rarely absolute rules. However, I'm going out on a pretty thick short and sturdy limb here. Pretty recently they were hooking. LOL it is part of the culture. If you are in Parque Lleras and there are local girls, without dudes, drinking or acting "normal" . It is quite common, and yes, they still have their price. She may have money in her wallet so she is more relaxed and just doing her own thing but just because they don't give off any signs that they are "working" I think it is more accurate to interpret it as not being too hungry or being picky or maybe holding out for her price. Girls that are truly NOT working will hang out in their own barrio with their girlfriends rather than come to Parque lleras and pay too much for everything and be in the tourist atmosphere and also be closed to the idea of sex for money.
My personal rule of thumb, you've heard it a million times so don't try to reinvent the wheel. First impressions set the mood so treat everyone friendly and like a normal person. If you can just say something like Hello, how are you? In a polite way, you open yourself to many more possibilities.
El Mechanico
07-06-17, 15:20
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship Uhhhh. What? I know several people that hold US & another country's passport & are considered 'Dual Citizens'.
El Mechanico.
Uhhhh. What? I know several people that hold US & another countries passport & are considered 'Dual Citizens'.
El Mechanico.I hold US and other country's passport. I am dual citizen for other country but not for US. US does not allow or recognize dual citizenship. I am only American Citizen for US.
Mr Enternational
07-06-17, 16:28
I hold US and other country's passport. I am dual citizen for other country but not for US. US does not allow or recognize dual citizenship. I am only American Citizen for US.Is there a difference between citizenship and nationality? I know many people that have US and other country passports. If I am correct the only way to get a passport is to be a citizen. Otherwise the person would use a residence card along with a passport from another country to enter the USA.
"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there. Most USA Nationals, including dual nationals, must use a USA Passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country. Use of the foreign passport does not endanger USA Nationality. ".
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal-considerations/us-citizenship-laws-policies/citizenship-and-dual-nationality/dual-nationality.html
Alliwantislove
07-06-17, 16:52
I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized. ... <snip> ... Just curious. Whatever it means to "get naturalized" I assume you did not take the test and go through the swearing in ceremony that green card holders go through when they become citizens. Right?
Thanks, Bob.
Just curious. Whatever it means to "get naturalized" I assume you did not take the test and go through the swearing in ceremony that green card holders go through when they become citizens. Right?
Thanks, Bob.No, I was 6 months old. We went in front of a judge who according to my dad asked me questions. LOL. My dad answered for me.
At the time in the 1960's they were told I could hold dual citizenship till I was 18 and would then have to choose.
Don't know if law has changed or they got bad Intel.
YippieKayay
07-06-17, 18:52
I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized.
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?She has to have a cedula and Colombian passport to re-enter Colombia if she is a Colombian citizen. I know this because on the way from Miami I was sitting next to a US / Colombian couple who told me they don't enter with their US passports.
Nice people too. The dude kept making jokes about me being a sex tourist which was uncomfortable but otherwise good conversations, hahaha.
Manizales911
07-06-17, 22:44
Of course this all assumes she has proof that she is the child of an American citizen. If the father is not doing his part to claim her, it can be very difficult for the foreign-born person to prove just sanguinis (by blood) citizenship.If she does not have cooperation from both parents or her American parent's name is not on the birth certificate then I can imagine it might be impossible. In my case my name is on my daughter's birth certificate and her mother willingly wrote the letter stating financial support etc. I also had tons of photos showing us together and receipts from WU showing the money sent for financial support and emails etc.
Manizales911
07-06-17, 22:51
I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized.
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?What I meant to say is that visas are difficult to get so she probably won't get one and it would be easier for her to just apply for a USA Passport because she is a USA Citizen at birth.
I was born out of the country to 2 American parents and still had to get naturalized.
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?Depending on when and where you were born, there used to be (still are, actually) some very particular rules in determining derivation of citizenship. Things like, if you were born before X date in 1951, your American father must have spent X number of years present in the US after age 14, and affirmatively legitimized you as his child, whereas if the mother was the US citizen, she only needed to spend why years present in the US after age 7. I believe there is still a requirement that if a child of a US citizen is not sponsored for derived citizenship by age 18 or 21, then he or she has to take a different, more complex route to derive their US citizenship.
Wow. A woman "dressed so slutty I didn't want to walk back to the hotel with her". I wish you had gotten a picture.Yeah I am curious just how slutty she was dressed. My Conejitas girlie came to my hotel dressed like this:
Too slutty or just right?
LOL- I am in the just right boat.
The US does allow dual citizenship. Some US citizens choose to renounce their US citizenship, usually for tax reasons. Being born in the United States equals USA Citizenship. If you are not born in the USA, even if one or both or your parents are USA Citizens, does not constitute citizenship but it does facilitate getting it. Consult the USA State Department web site for clarification.
Uhhhh. What? I know several people that hold US & another countries passport & are considered 'Dual Citizens'.
El Mechanico.
Since the US does not allow dual citizenship I think she could choose to be Colombian from her mother side if she wanted and still be eligible to visit her US father?The US neither allows nor disallows dual citizenship. You can have any other citizenship that you want, but once you pledge allegiance (go through the process of naturalization) to the US, you are considered a US citizen, and the US no longer recognizes any other citizenship.
If she does not have cooperation from both parents or her American parent's name is not on the birth certificate then I can imagine it might be impossible. In my case my name is on my daughter's birth certificate and her mother willingly wrote the letter stating financial support etc. I also had tons of photos showing us together and receipts from WU showing the money sent for financial support and emails etc.These days, it's almost a given that they will require DNA test to issue a US passport if they have any doubt.
YippieKayay
07-07-17, 12:05
Yeah I am curious just how slutty she was dressed. My Conejitas girlie came to my hotel dressed like this:
Too slutty or just right?
LOL- I am in the just right boat.She had a miniskirt which she pulled up over her belly button. You could see her ass cheeks as she walked around. She wore a tank top along with it. I don't think she was wearing any underwear. It was bad.
Black Page
07-07-17, 12:45
Yeah I am curious just how slutty she was dressed. My Conejitas girlie came to my hotel dressed like this:.Gosh....
I would not bring her with me to the Christmas Dinner with parents and relatives, introducing her as my old good friend just arrived in town from Colombia. :D
YippieKayay
07-07-17, 13:31
Gosh....
I would not bring her with me to the Christmas Dinner with parents and relatives, introducing her as my old good friend just arrived in town from Colombia. :DThere's a difference between a woman in a one piece dress or denims and a woman who is barely covering her skin and showing everyone the bottom half of her naked ass. The latter I don't feel comfortable walking with. That's one reason I go to Colombia. Hookers tend to have taste.
There's a difference between a woman in a one piece dress or denims and a woman who is barely covering her skin and showing everyone the bottom half of her naked ass. The latter I don't feel comfortable walking with. That's one reason I go to Colombia. Hookers tend to have taste.I'm not so sure it's that the hookers have taste. It's that the regular women dress like Wolf662's example all the time. I saw a couple dressed like that at the Migracion office the other day.
World Travel 69
07-07-17, 14:45
Too much Chit Chat in this thread again.
It is supposed to be about the chicas and places they are in.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread
Manizales911
07-07-17, 17:24
Depending on when and where you were born, there used to be (still are, actually) some very particular rules in determining derivation of citizenship. Things like, if you were born before X date in 1951, your American father must have spent X number of years present in the US after age 14, and affirmatively legitimized you as his child, whereas if the mother was the US citizen, she only needed to spend why years present in the US after age 7. I believe there is still a requirement that if a child of a US citizen is not sponsored for derived citizenship by age 18 or 21, then he or she has to take a different, more complex route to derive their US citizenship.You are 100% correct.
Hasideas Tao
07-08-17, 13:42
Saw the line-up. Without missing a beat, I said Violeta. The manager said she's not available. She is sick. I asked so why is she here? Why did you present her?
I can't even write what he said as I cannot translate his response as it still does not make any sense to me.
FYI I have gone with her before and always a good time. So WTF?
Hourly rates here are now 55 mil. 38 for the half.
My best guess is she is having her period or otherwise unable to perform. The management presents her so guys don't complain to each other about too few girls. She submits to the presentation because she doesn't want to get fired. It's no more complicated than that.
The place is a little off the beaten track even if you are staying in Centro. Barcelona nearby is sometimes worth a peek.
Saw the line-up. Without missing a beat, I said Violeta. The manager said she's not available. She is sick. I asked so why is she here? Why did you present her?
I can't even write what he said as I cannot translate his response as it still does not make any sense to me.
FYI I have gone with her before and always a good time. So WTF?
Hourly rates here are now 55 mil. 38 for the half.
His pricing sounds about right, I was getting quoted 40-50 k for an hour and someone with better Spanish could probably get a better deal. There was good good selection Monday, that was also a holiday so that probably helped.I spend a lot of time down on the strip as do two of my buddies normally staying at Hotel Delicias. The price for the girls can vary from 30-50 mil for 30 minutes. I'm using 30 minutes because that is the most common request for work done in a hotel there on the strip. Prices for an hour or for taking her back to your place can wildly vary and not always in a bad way. The quoted prices usually are based on how many guys are down there, how many guys are actually doing any sex work and how many are just chatting the girls up, that particular girl's number of clients, how long she has been there and how long before she leaves, how much work she has already put in for the day or night, the time of month (both for bills and personal reasons), if she will ask for a tip or upsell once in the room, if she thinks you are going to pay the higher amount (trust me they are sizing us up as we looks at them) and last but not least if she is attracted to you. The price for a local is 20-30 for the half hour plus hotel. When you ask her how much, always ask is the hotel included in her price. Those things said, pay what you feel is a good price and know the variables.
If PapiOso is reading, you were actually in La Mayorista (centro commercial) not at what is commonly called Mayorista by people here in the forum. You were pretty much about a block away but outside of that gated complex. The locals call the strip La Raya I think. I usually tell taxi drivers la Mayorista then redirect them before they turn in the entrance or if on Guayabal Av I have them take the jug handle at Parque Las Chimeneas.
DP.
Men, cases can be great but don't expect to find that diamond without doing some legwork. I once found a diamond spinner after visiting at ten off the beaten path casas. Well worth my search.
BangkokMikey
07-09-17, 00:48
Numbers get thrown around and publicized a lot. IT gets into your subconscious and it never seems to be in a way that favors my position.
So I would like to throw around a few of my own. Centro casas are avg 38 mil for a 30 minute get to know you test drive. I have met so many great girls this way. I admit it is not for everyone as there is a lot of walking and a bit of patience to find someone I would like to see outside of their workplace. But when I do, there has not been one who refuses 100 mil to meet me at my place. Sometimes I offer 80 mil + taxis. I play it by ear. Everything is negotiable. My new friends will almost always hang out for 2+ hours. I always tell them they can leave when they want. I usually cook something or invite them for a drink or lunch or whatever. Like a regular person. Most will come back when I invite them. Some will hound me, when are we getting together again. Some I never hear from again.
Centro strip clubs are open until 2 am sun-wed and often close earlier. I have NEVER had a problem taking a girl back to my place for 100 when the place closes up or inviting them for another day via whatsapp. I did this in san diego show once in the past year. But I rarely go to san diego show.
Facebook girls who I have never met seem to ask 150 - 200 plus taxi. I always counter with 100. Some laugh and I unfriend. Some accept this or negotiate to at least confirm the extra taxi money. Most end up making the date. Sometimes I go up to the 150 but at this stage of my game, I have enough girls who rock it for 100 or less in my little black book, I have to be very intrigued to promise 150. I would like to add many facebook girls do not talk about money and will still make plans to meet up in public some where. Lucky me, some aren't looking for money. Some will accept whatever I give them, and some will discuss it over the beer or coffee when we finally meet. Most accept 100. Some fight for the 150..Sorry for my ignorance guys, but I just got here and have no idea what you mean by "casas". Are they working girl houses?
I'm looking for action tonight and would love some ideas of some reasonably priced places. It appears that Pley House is now a bit expensive from what I'm reading.
Manizales911
07-09-17, 01:42
These days, it's almost a given that they will require DNA test to issue a US passport if they have any doubt.Why do you think that? I wasn't required to take a DNA test.
My best guess is she is having her period or otherwise unable to perform.....Barcelona nearby is sometimes worth a peek.FYI, 99% of casa girls continue working when they're on the rag. They stuff a wet-wipe or cotton or something up there and go to work. I had presumed otherwise.
Another board member whose opinion I trust told me last week that Barcelona had a decent line-up, if anyone wants to chime in with a report from there. It's been on my avoid list for a while.
Why do you think that? I wasn't required to take a DNA test.Probably because they didn't have doubts about the "proof" that you submitted.
Hasideas Tao
07-09-17, 16:09
Hahahaha these reasons and a few hundred others. When a chica you want to bang pulls some weird shit, sometimes it's difficult to resist guessing the circumstances and criteria in her surreal world.
I spend a lot of time down on the strip as do two of my buddies normally staying at Hotel Delicias. The price for the girls can vary from 30-50 mil for 30 minutes. I'm using 30 minutes because that is the most common request for work done in a hotel there on the strip. Prices for an hour or for taking her back to your place can wildly vary and not always in a bad way. The quoted prices usually are based on how many guys are down there, how many guys are actually doing any sex work and how many are just chatting the girls up, that particular girl's number of clients, how long she has been there and how long before she leaves, how much work she has already put in for the day or night, the time of month (both for bills and personal reasons), if she will ask for a tip or upsell once in the room, if she thinks you are going to pay the higher amount (trust me they are sizing us up as we looks at them) and last but not least if she is attracted to you. The price for a local is 20-30 for the half hour plus hotel. When you ask her how much, always ask is the hotel included in her price. Those things said, pay what you feel is a good price and know the variables..The actual Mayorista, where all the trucks come to drop off their cargo, has expanded a lot in recent years. I heard there can be great purchases that can be made there. Anyone have first hand experience?
FYI, 99% of casa girls continue working when they're on the rag. They stuff a wet-wipe or cotton or something up there and go to work. I had presumed otherwise.
Another board member whose opinion I trust told me last week that Barcelona had a decent line-up, if anyone wants to chime in with a report from there. It's been on my avoid list for a while.
My best guess is she is having her period or otherwise unable to perform. The management presents her so guys don't complain to each other about too few girls. She submits to the presentation because she doesn't want to get fired. It's no more complicated than that.
The place is a little off the beaten track even if you are staying in Centro. Barcelona nearby is sometimes worth a peek.Very probable. However I second the theory that they will work while on the rag. Maybe since the manager knows me he was doing me a favor. LOL They will also work under worse circumstances, if you can imagine as I'm sure we all can.
Price is 30 K room included. All the rest is besides the point. Yes, of course there are guys who pay more there and everywhere else. I've never experienced or heard about an offer for 30 K room included being turned down anywhere on that strip.
I spend a lot of time down on the strip as do two of my buddies normally staying at Hotel Delicias. The price for the girls can vary from 30-50 mil for 30 minutes. I'm using 30 minutes because that is the most common request for work done in a hotel there on the strip. Prices for an hour or for taking her back to your place can wildly vary and not always in a bad way. The quoted prices usually are based on how many guys are down there, how many guys are actually doing any sex work and how many are just chatting the girls up, that particular girl's number of clients, how long she has been there and how long before she leaves, how much work she has already put in for the day or night, the time of month (both for bills and personal reasons), if she will ask for a tip or upsell once in the room, if she thinks you are going to pay the higher amount (trust me they are sizing us up as we looks at them) and last but not least if she is attracted to you. The price for a local is 20-30 for the half hour plus hotel. When you ask her how much, always ask is the hotel included in her price. Those things said, pay what you feel is a good price and know the variables.
If PapiOso is reading, you were actually in La Mayorista (centro commercial) not at what is commonly called Mayorista by people here in the forum. You were pretty much about a block away but outside of that gated complex. The locals call the strip La Raya I think. I usually tell taxi drivers la Mayorista then redirect them before they turn in the entrance or if on Guayabal Av I have them take the jug handle at Parque Las Chimeneas.
DP.
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