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Any advice?
With all the advices on ISG, I managed to sign up to rambler. Ru. Contacted a girl in St. Petersburg who promptly replied in instant message. Problem is that she wrote that her phone number is at a web address that starts with "znomerok" followed by some Russian letters, then her name in Russian. I can't find a site that starts with "znormerok" nor does my keyboard have easy access to Russian letters. With the use of Bablefish, I can understand what she is writing but I got stuck here. I'm encouraged that I made big progress but now I'm stuck. Any advice?
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First time - seeking advice
Hi all, dear fellow mongers.
I'm planning some days in St. Petersburg (never been there before), and I've a couple of questions someone more experienced than me might help to solve.
Have you got any advice on "friendly" hotels where to stay? (I mean: hotels where girls will be allowed to come to my room without being harrassed with documents, questions, etc?).
Also: I may honestly say I don't speak a word of russian! Should I like to call a girl to come to my room, you believe I might ask some hotel clerk to ask her for me? You believe thy'll do it? (maybe with the help of some tips?).
Thanks in advance, guys
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Super Bowl
I will be in St Pete for Super Bowl. Does anyone know of a place that will be showing it ? And yes it will be 2:30 or 3:00am. Just going to make it an all nighter if needed.
Jake
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[QUOTE=Senor Tromba]Hi all, dear fellow mongers.
I'm planning some days in St. Petersburg (never been there before), and I've a couple of questions someone more experienced than me might help to solve.
Have you got any advice on "friendly" hotels where to stay? (I mean: hotels where girls will be allowed to come to my room without being harrassed with documents, questions, etc?).
Also: I may honestly say I don't speak a word of russian! Should I like to call a girl to come to my room, you believe I might ask some hotel clerk to ask her for me? You believe thy'll do it? (maybe with the help of some tips?).
Thanks in advance, guys[/QUOTE]The one time I stayed in SPB (one year ago last Ocotober) I stayed at the Prebaltiskaya Hotel and the lobby bar was crawling with hookers. And no, there was no trouble what-so-ever. As a rule of thumb, if you stay in a western chain hotel - Marriott, Sheraton, Westin, Raddiossson, etc you will not be hassled at all. Period. There are minor exceptions to that but not many. Of course, these hotels are a little more expensive than other but there you go. I have been to Russia and FSU about a dozen times and have NEVER had any trouble with girls coming to my room. In fact, I get more hassle in Brazil than I do in Russia. Of course, this also depends on the type of girl you come in with too.
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Hi All
I am a 32 years old greek male from moscow.
I am looking for a partner to make own photo sessions.
For to share price and take photos.
If you interest please mail me.
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Dear Jake993,
thank you very much for your hints. Did you ever ask an hotel clerk to call at the telephone for you?
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[QUOTE=Senor Tromba]Dear Jake993,
thank you very much for your hints. Did you ever ask an hotel clerk to call at the telephone for you?[/QUOTE]Tromba,
No, I never did but I speak enough Russian to get my own. The doorman can usually be very helpful. Just say "Devushka" (De-voosh-ka) and he will get the hint.
Also, there are enough escort agencies in Peter who speak English. These are good but not cheap;
[url]http://www.lanaescort.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.lux-escort.com/ladies.php[/url]
And there's also this one that is horrifically expensive but is supposed to be good. [url]http://www.petersburgescort.com/[/url]
Good luck,
Jake
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Genius
[QUOTE=Spangle]Like most dating sites, members are not allowed to post telephone numbers and email addresses in their profiles. You'll also notice that working girls will not post prices in their profiles.
If the girl is online, you may get a message back right away. If not, then it's a bit like email and you can pick up the reply later.[/QUOTE]Spangle - you are a bloody genius. I signed up for [url]www.mamba.ru[/url] and am like a kid in a candy store. Chatting up the working girls was easy and good for practice. Now, I am starting to strike a little email relationship with a few (seemly) non-pros. This promises to be far more effective than the short time, high pressure, fire drill of trying to pick up a Russian girl in the bar. What is surprising is that many of them had a decent working knowledge of English and seem to be much less shy about trying to communication electronically than in person.
Who says computer dating with never catch on?
Thanks for sharing the wealth!!!!
Jake
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2 times in Piter
saint-petersburg is the capital of the porn in russia, the nevski prospect is filled of true bombs very sexy 24h/24 equipped for tariffed relations or free girls who seek to in short put in the western countries a pleasure of the eyes but this is not at all simple in reality to lead to nonvenal meetings. for this reason, in a first part we will see that the photomodeli living rooms are very serious and in a last part we will study the escorts and girls of bar and street (marstall...).
chapter i: photomodeli it is a chain of living rooms of various ranges but of very good quality. for my part here the ev of the girls whom i had the pleasure of booker
marina [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.ph...a9[/url] d192ed475d it is a very hot girl of turkish extraction and in particular of istanbul it worked besides in the brothels of this city but this does not remove of anything the service the top-of-the-range one of this girl since one is to burst during 2 hours in a top-of-the-range living room with the traditional déco besides i could take it on a desk of minister dfk it is a true gfe and energetic and hot as of the note ember: 8/10
marianna [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.ph...a[/url] 9d192ed475d it resembles to the woman of my dreams, makes the french kiss and has beautiful enough large centres to feel at ease in this living room of medium of range. there i took it for 1 hour of pleasure while thinking of seeing resemblances to sasha. on the other hand not of owo and the traditional positions. note: 7/10
kristina [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.ph...a9[/url] d192ed475d my first with my arrival with saint-petersbourg and is being the s?ur of snezhanna taken at the same time by dant in the close part. and well i was filled by his prestaion and for a setting stops it of it is a setting stops some since the fellatio is natural and that it makes cif/cim but i do not know if it swallows in any event i never oblige a girl to make it apr against step of anal, a good introduction for 2 a.m.. note: 6/10
natasha [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.ph...a[/url] 9d192ed475d it touve to the 162 nevsky prospective customer now. the last girl of my trip is always the best with a true gfe for 4 a.m. with the paradise in my apartment major kisses it has a piercing on the language and the navel but has also a tattooing with the bottom of the back which seems to hide scars due to renal calculi i think. the feeling appears as from the moment when it agreed to take the shower together, pleasant massage and specify small damping much and i that i am beautiful (that one one ever did it to me) i grip some seriously for it so much so that i am with two fingers to cry in front of it before his departure. for the fellatio the piercing is all the more pleasant if you to remove to him the hand at the base of the pole right with the mouth and if the feeling is there you will have can be right with the deep throat. a justifying and very beautiful girl who i am ready with all to re-examine it. note: 9.5/10 did
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/ankette.ph...a9[/url] d192ed475d i require the overnight with this girl and bus gfe regrets at all it besides it has a boy friend, not motivated undoubtedly sick (heavy cold and same waited surely its rules) but as for all the girls the photographs are in conformity and i could take it to me several times on the desk, the settee and the bed which one broke the diagrid at the time of a surging missionary the small one made very for step enjoy with me and were barred the morning with 5h30 whereas i had taken the complete night with 8000 roubles (approximately 220? for 8 a.m.) its true first name is olga or olya but i personally prefer marianna in the same living room. note: 4/10 mila this woman is with living room retro (woman wall) on bolchaia the customers of less than 30 years cannot reach it i have besides with complicity dant to cheat on my age to return, the women of the living room practises urology but mila does not make anal however simulates very many orgasm of russian mature blondes. for simply an hour to empty the testicles. note: 5/10 part ii: is marstall, escorts independent, prostitutes of street alexandra fille met to the bar marstall on the recommendations of a member of forum , it a very good suction dredger and the best of all that which i met in this city, at all gfe it is maqué and makes this "job" to pay its studies of doctor it speaks french but to pay the night with 150? for a girl like that in fact a 3 hours hides meeting only thus to pass your road if you to seek a gfe if not for a small avid heat of sex then to sink but you do not make have, it had the frankness to return 1500 roubles to me to have to curtail the night and note did not make me enjoy: 3/10 if not there are others of them but i thus did not test i do not specify the co-ordinates in mp if you want it. elena this escort requires more than the applied tariffs and makes the anal one only if you take another girl with to the , i paid him the taxi because its prices were re-examined with the rise. to finish there is abrikosoff coffee (nevsky 40) with lissie: to 300 €? the night it is too expensive but vour will notice the sat at table girls there awaiting the tourist. finally you find *****s of streets on the pavements of mayakovskaia or the bottom of nevsky prospective customer. saint-pétersbourg = but what a good flock! thank you very much with dant to have provided the functions of guide and i am ready to return the elevator to him on prague or another city.
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Apt. rental
Planning to visit St. Pete at the end of April. Looking for affordable lodging (apartment). Anybody has experience with the following establishment?
[url]http://www.nevsky88.com/Apartments/default.asp[/url]
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Bandy
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[QUOTE=Bandy]Planning to visit St. Pete at the end of April. Looking for affordable lodging (apartment). Anybody has experience with the following establishment?
[url]http://www.nevsky88.com/Apartments/default.asp[/url]
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Bandy[/QUOTE]This is Oksanas, you find her also on oksanas.net. I always use this agency (maybe 20 times!), very reliable, good service. You will be safe with this agency and the location is perfect.
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Sudden increase in selection SPB?
I don't know if I'm the only one who has noticed but [url]www.ston.ru[/url] now contains absolutely loads of SPB girls. Go about halfway down the left side of the site to the drop-down menu where it says "MOCKBA" and change it to St Petersburg which is next on the list and press the button immediately below. The majority seems to be "salon girls" or "girlfriends" with somewhat less "individualski" (independents) and "podrushki" (brothel girls).
Lots of "girlfriends" at $250 per night may be found.
Has anyone tried ston.ru?
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[QUOTE=BillyRayJim]I don't know if I'm the only one who has noticed but [url]www.ston.ru[/url] now contains absolutely loads of SPB girls. Go about halfway down the left side of the site to the drop-down menu where it says "MOCKBA" and change it to St Petersburg which is next on the list and press the button immediately below. The majority seems to be "salon girls" or "girlfriends" with somewhat less "individualski" (independents) and "podrushki" (brothel girls).
Lots of "girlfriends" at $250 per night may be found.
Has anyone tried ston.ru?[/QUOTE]
Haven't tried ston.ru but am getting offers of about 2000 rubles/hour for independent girls in "8" categoty off of various dating sites. That's about $80 or 65 Euro. Good price.
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Ditto
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Haven't tried ston.ru but am getting offers of about 2000 rubles/hour for independent girls in "8" categoty off of various dating sites. That's about $80 or 65 Euro. Good price.[/QUOTE]Ditto on your offers of 2000 rubles an hour for some real stunners on the dating sites. Even getting a few cracks at some non-pros. A few bored house wifes looking for some "strange" foreign sausage. I've got a few weeks before I go to Russia again so what the hell, I might as well chat em up on line and see what happens. Some of them even know a few words of English.
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Am going clubbing and getting drunk tonight, it's mens day in Russia. Anybody want to join me?
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Looking for Companion
I'm looking for a provider to spend a few days with in St. Petersburg. One that speaks fairly good English. Does anybody have a recommendation?
Thanks! EBR
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Non-fuckable bed alerts!
recent stay in the moika22 kempinski revealed a bed that was nearly impossible to fuck in!
the kempinski moika22 is my favorite st.petersburg hotel. i love the location sandwiched between the hermitage, nevsky prospect and a series of hot nightclubs on konnueshnaya ploshad. the rooms are clean and nice with a very petersburg-esque tsar-blue colour scheme. it has a great upstairs restaurant with stupidly overpriced and somewhat bland food, but the view is great. i have never taken a girl there and not gotten laid within 24 hours of sipping drinks together and pondering life. they love the view and girls distracted by lovely views are easy to touch and fondle. the staff don't ask your girl any questions or ask for any id.
'nuff said.
but there is a problem.
this problem wasn't apparent when marina agreed to meet me at 23.00 to go out for drinks. we'd met before and in fact had even kissed before, but that was about 3 years ago. marina was 22 now and i was three years older than i was back then. on that fateful night i had lost my phone between our kiss and the next morning when i was accosted by some renegade militia types on the street, who had relieved me of my phone. i was very pissed at the time, as not only was the phone full of great numbers including marina's, it was brand-fucking new. silly goons.
but i had stumbled across marina at a party about 2 months ago and we again exchanged numbers. her ass was still as perfect as it was back then, so i felt a real need to fuck it. so with nothing to do on this sunday night, she seemed a good option.
fate had been playing into my hands, as i had actually planned on meeting julia tonight, whom i had enjoyed screwing last fall. julia has the perfect pussy. it is true. there is no pussy more perfect than julia's. there are many excellent pussies out there, some even divine. but none as perfect as julia's.
julia's pussy is a little peach colored mound between her legs. it is just a little slit, her pussy flesh protrudes ever slightly from her slit when she is aroused, but is otherwise completely hidden. you won't find it by looking for hair either, because it is hairless. she is shaved bare and absolutely smooth. always. at least always whenever i met her pussy. and i met it both in the day and night, drunk and sober. a few times.
her pussy smells like... nothing.
i tastes like... nothing.
i feels simply like very very soft skin. it oils up very quickly and when it is oiled up, it stays oiled up. it is tight and small, but can take a big cock without problem. it likes cock. it told me so.
but there is a problem with julia's pussy. it is attached to julia.
i had called julia before this trip and she had been eager to meet. however on one fatfeul night, my sms was answered not only by julia, but by some igor claiming to be julia's "hasbent" (husband). he informed me, using rather rude language, that i should forget julia and find another girl. perhaps this was even merely helpful advice as julia was a bit psycho, but i do enjoy julia's pussy so much... more so than igor could ever properly appreciate. so i continued to write.
this went on a couple of times. on some nights, like new year's, only julia answered. on other nights, like today, igor also answered, using more bad language and words i'll have to ask bez to know what they mean. i still don't know what to think of this, because it made no sense. igor was obviously reading julia's smss, however she was also answering them independently. perhaps julia had a split personality? in any case, it seemed apparent that i was not going to be poking julia's perfect pussy tonight and that i had best move on. perhaps igor really is julia's husband, in which case i might someday do him the favor of sending him some lovely pictures of her sucking my cock or a tantalising video of her screaming with her ankles up around her ears while i fuck the living daylights out of her on a sunday afternoon. wonder what bad language he will come up with then to call me?
so marina it was.
i would have to substitute the perfect pussy with the perfect ass. there are worse things in life.
marina shows at 23.00 exactly, uncharacteristically punctual for a dyev. it's about -3 outside and she is wearing a skintight black miniskirt that barely covers her crotch. nice. she's got short brown hair in that boyish natalie portman look, her top concealing small but well-shaped breasts. and her eyes. she's got bright blue expressive intelligent eyes, simply gorgeous. 10 + points for her.
we exchange a quick kiss and head outside, around the corner from the hotel to konnushnaya ploshad where several "in" clubs are located in a row... "bubble bar" for adolescent hipsters, "arena3" for upscale local players and ladder-climbers and "achtung baby", a two room bar which sometimes features live music and always features a raucous drink-a-thon. i am in the raucous drink-a-thon mood tonight.
upon entering "achtung baby" i am pleased to note that russ meyer's "super vixens", a 60's cult classic film about women with big breasts, is playing on one of the walls. this is a good omen, even if my girl only has small tits. we sit at a free table and begin to drink tequila. one, two, three. touching becomes kissing, kissing becomes groping and groping promises to become pokeage. some people are dancing next to us and the mood in the club is getting wilder. we talk to them for a second or two. it's a german guy and a decent-looking brunette chick, plus about 5 other people. i am getting wilder too, as is my date. when i go to get a round of drinks, i return to the table to find my girl is now dancing with the group next to us, who are screaming and hollering, urging me to join them. after drinking the tequila, i join them and we dance wildly.
at some point everything in the night becomes a blur, just like every party night should. i only remember some brief moments, some highlights include:
* my girl gives me some sort of private dance, seemingly inspired by the russ meyer film playing on the wall, she is dancing in a crazy gogo style while people cheer her on. she's rubbing her body against mine while i sit in the open in my chair on some sort of platform so everybody can see, as i sit i spread my legs slightly apart and she turns her back to me and rubs the perfect ass on my cock like a stripper. at one point she sits down on my lap and we make out for a couple of minutes in a very memorable and enjoyable session. i do believe her ass was hanging out the back of her tight miniskirt for everybody to see. this bothered neither me nor her.
* the girl dancing together with the german guy next to us asked my girl if she could have my phone number. these girls know no shame. animals.
* my girl is dancing on the table at one point, displaying remarkable balance despite her intoxicated state. other people are also dancing on tables. nobody dies.
i decide to move things alone and send my girl a sms saying "hochu tebya ochen" which translates into russian as "i really want to fuck you". this often works, as girls often think it is cute to get a sms from someone sitting right next to them. my female however pretends to be upset, telling me it is primitive language and that she is not that kind of girl. she looks at me and says "no sex! i will not go to hotel with you!"... but can't quite conceal the stupid tequila grin on her face.
the party is going strong and the guys seem to be very attracted to my wild female. as flirty as she is at this point, i decide it is time to go, before my female starts getting stupid ideas, so without waiting i suggest we start slowly heading home. seemingly forgetting her "no sex!" rule, she says without hesitation "ok, let's go to hotel". tequila and loose morals are your friend.
10 minutes later, we are in the hotel and i am peeling her clothes off. her body doesn't disappoint. smooth pale skin, a perfectly shaped ass and perky yet small tits that react well to kisses and licking. her pussy is equally well-shaped, shaved bare and moist and wet. my cock is hard and ready and she is already holding it in her hands and moving her mouth towards it. everything is perfect, except for the damn bed.
she yelps loudly as i grab my cock and slip it inside her with 2-3 slow thrusts. it's length now wet with her juices, i start pumping her with rhythmic movements as she moans and screams loudly. as my tempo increases, the headboard of the bed begins to bang loudly against the wall and i am a bit worried that the neighbors might be losing sleep, if they are not awake already from her incessant screaming... :)
i continue a bit, but the headboard is really banging loudly against the wall and she is screaming and grunting like there is no tomorrow. i maneuver her to a position across the two twin beds and start fucking her that way instead. she screams and yelps some more as i pump away, but with our fucking motions the beds start to slide apart and a gaping hole starts to appear between the beds which threatens to swallow us up. she doesn't seem to be noticing this at all, as her eyes are closed and she is moaning and screaming and scratching away at my back and grabbing my ass. watching my oiled rod disappear in and out of her shaved pussy, i ponder how to solve the situation elegantly without breaking the rhythm, as she is breathing faster and harder and seems close to orgasm.
a monumental struggle ensues, as with the beds spreading farther and farther apart, i struggle to hold her up with one arm, continue pumping her and continue to keep us both from falling into the pit between the beds. as she continues to claw away at me and screech and moan loudly, various things are falling off of both the nightstands next to the beds. thankfully nothing that breaks or stains. with one leg i manage to maneuver myself into the pit and before i know it i am standing in the pit and pumping away strongly again. the bed continues to move across the room with my thrusts, now it is rapidly approaching the wall where it finally arrives with a thud. with the bed no longer moving, i am able to get the leverage i need and am able to get really deep penetration into her.
finally i am able to concentrate on coming and slow my pace slightly to a more rhythmic and sliding motion, causing her moans to deepen. my eyes closed now, i slide into her again and again as she orgasms, spreading her legs wider and arching her back as her head tilts back at an impossible angle. as she rides out her orgasm with a scream and some incoherent babbling, i concentrate on mine, finally pulling out my spitting cock just in time and spraying jizz all over her stomach, her tits and managing to bring my cock up to her face just in time to get some on her face and into her mouth, which she licks up.
as i pant away in post-coital relief, i look around the lowly lit room. various things are strewn across the floor... glasses, her black dress, my pants and underwear. the bed has been divided into it's two parts, now at opposite ends of the room, with a gaping hole in the middle in which i am half-standing in. my laptop and it's music drone on quietly in the background.
with a satisfied smile marina slowly opens her eyes and as they adjust to the light she looks around the room, her face taking on a confused look as she trys to identify the room. not only is she trying to remember exactly how she got there, but she is most likely trying to figure out why the room has a bed on each end and a space in the middle...
it doesn't matter to me, the battle is won. we orgasmed. security hasn't knocked on the door yet and i can finally get some sleep. i'd wait until morning to fuck her in the ass.
skank 1: bed 0
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Doc the mentor,
Awesome report...
I remember how I broke the bed in a trio session, but yours is way better.
The old beds have this problem, I usually put 1-2 of the pillows between the wall and headboard; the bed still bangs the wall but pillows keep the voice down...
Hail the chief....
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I don't give a 'RAT's Ass
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Recent stay in the Moika22 .....that fateful night I had lost my phone between our kiss and the next morning when I was accosted by some renegade militia types on the street, who had relieved me of my phone.....[/QUOTE]Who ya are or where ya are, if you let any of these militia fuck with ya. Well you are so un-informed!
If anyone wants to know how to avoid any of this. Stop these fuckers cold in their tracks.
(I use it all the time! )
Pm me.
'skank'. Either you disapoint me or your whole story is bs!
Ls guy in "don't ever let anyone fuck with you" land!
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[QUOTE=Big Bro AJ]
I remember how I broke the bed in a trio session, but yours is way better.
The old beds have this problem, I usually put 1-2 of the pillows between the wall and headboard; the bed still bangs the wall but pillows keep the voice down...
[/QUOTE]
Breaking the bed is a hazard of the game... The pillow trick works, thanks for reminding me. At 3am all sexed and tequilaed up, sometimes my brain doesn't work properly.... :)
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Petersburg and criminality
I have been to Petersburg before and had quite fun with the private apartements/studios.
I had a Taxidriver with me, but it is really dark and feels unsafe when you walk into some of the buildings.
What do you think?
What private place is the best these days?
Any good stripclub where you get sex? What price?
Any goodescorte will alsp be fine.
I will go there soon!
Thanks
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Visit to SPB in Mid-April
I have a two night visit to SPB in mid April and was looking for help in finding a good agency that could provide outcall for 2 hours in the 200-300 Euro range. I really want someone who will provide DFK, and OWO would be nice too. Having read the forum, it seems like both those services are hit or miss. I have tried via email with Lux-escort.com, PetersburgEscort.com, and escort-model.com and have not received much in terms response except from escort-model.com. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated and I will post all the details of my stay upon my return.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Stb 27.03.2008 - 30.03.2008
Hi folks,
I will stay at St. Petersburg 27. 03. 2008. 30. 03. 2008. I want to go out clubbing, somthing drinking, having fun, and maybe mor. Anybody want to join me? May we could share us a girl from [url]www.ston.ru[/url]. Send me a mail at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Pribaltiyskaya Hotel
In April I will be attending a conference that is being held at the Pribaltiyskaya Hotel (located on the Western end of Vasilyevsky Island).
I have never been to St. Pitr, but from what I can tell, this hotel is not near anything of interest to mongers. Even assuming that I find an apartment downtown, it looks like a complicated trek out to this hotel (15 min walk from subway).
My only other thought is that maybe there would be opportunities to monger "off the beaten path" as it were - outside of the main clubs of the city center. However, given that I am a neophyte in this city, and don't speak Russian, I cannot help but think I would be better off staying "on the beaten path".
Of course, I can make internet dates and get the girls to meet me near the hotel, if there is any sort of entertainment district nearby...
Can anybody advise me differently?
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[QUOTE=Punter411]I have a two night visit to SPB in mid April and was looking for help in finding a good agency that could provide outcall for 2 hours in the 200-300 Euro range. I really want someone who will provide DFK, and OWO would be nice too. Having read the forum, it seems like both those services are hit or miss. I have tried via email with Lux-escort.com, PetersburgEscort.com, and escort-model.com and have not received much in terms response except from escort-model.com. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated and I will post all the details of my stay upon my return.
Thanks in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]
Punter - check out the Reports of Distinctions - GandJim Does Salons - there is lot of information.
During my last stay in SPB I had very good "outcall" service from the Dominos site - operator speaks English.
Tell her what you want- within 30 minutes the girl will come to you. Charged US$100 per hour
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]In April I will be attending a conference that is being held at the Pribaltiyskaya Hotel (located on the Western end of Vasilyevsky Island).
I have never been to St. Pitr, but from what I can tell, this hotel is not near anything of interest to mongers. Even assuming that I find an apartment downtown, it looks like a complicated trek out to this hotel (15 min walk from subway).
My only other thought is that maybe there would be opportunities to monger "off the beaten path" as it were - outside of the main clubs of the city center. However, given that I am a neophyte in this city, and don't speak Russian, I cannot help but think I would be better off staying "on the beaten path".
Of course, I can make internet dates and get the girls to meet me near the hotel, if there is any sort of entertainment district nearby...
Can anybody advise me differently?[/QUOTE]
Are you staying in the hotel?
AFAIK there are pros IN the hotel, at the bars. Other than that you can try salons located on the island.
The hotel is indeed not near anything of interest, although there once was a decent disco named "Ostrov" on V.I.... not sure if it still exists.
At night, the taxi trip to the center is not more than 10-15 minutes. In terms of entertainment, St.Pete is a village.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Are you staying in the hotel?[/QUOTE]
Well, that is really the question.
Sure I can stay at the hotel, but am concerned that then I would be confined to lobby girls - who often are not great from a price/quality criteria.
Equally, I can shun the hotel and find an apartment downtown, to be closer to the action, but still have to get to my meetings at the hotel, during rush hour.
On the other hand, if the prices are lower out of the centre, maybe I am better off just with hotel fare, than spending a lot of time and money in the hotter downtown market? Decisions, decisions...
So "the island" has salons, but not really an entertainment area?
When you say St. P is a village, you mean all the clubs and pick-up spots are centrally located?
Thanks,
GT
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Well, that is really the question.
Sure I can stay at the hotel, but am concerned that then I would be confined to lobby girls - who often are not great from a price/quality criteria.
Equally, I can shun the hotel and find an apartment downtown, to be closer to the action, but still have to get to my meetings at the hotel, during rush hour.
On the other hand, if the prices are lower out of the centre, maybe I am better off just with hotel fare, than spending a lot of time and money in the hotter downtown market? Decisions, decisions...
So "the island" has salons, but not really an entertainment area?
When you say St. P is a village, you mean all the clubs and pick-up spots are centrally located?
Thanks,
GT[/QUOTE]
I've walked from the metro to the hotel, it's about 20 minutes and depending on the wind and weather, can be pretty brutal. The hotel interior is surprisingly nice, although I have never stayed there and cannot comment on the rooms or the quality of the lobby girls.
You can always take a taxi from the metro to the hotel, won't be more than 150 rubles... and that is already "bandit" price.
AFAIK there is no entertainment area on the island... of course there are restaurants, some bars and casinos etc., but nothing I'd really recommend.
SP is a village, you can never venture 500m from Nevsky and get everything you want. Personally I wouldn't stay on the island unless I had to. However if your mobility will be severely limited by your work, the convenience of lobby girls might be OK.
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Prebaltiskaya
I stayed there a year ago last October.
Plenty of girls hanging out in the lobby bar - but their performance leaves something to be desired. I seem to recall paying about $150 for a few hours and not being very impressed. Frankly I would not bother with these girls.
Take the taxi to the metro.
I think there are a few salons on the Island - BE AWARE OF THE BRIDGE CLOSURES. Every night they close the bridges for several hours and if you are caught on the wrong side it can be very inconvenient.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]
I think there are a few salons on the Island - BE AWARE OF THE BRIDGE CLOSURES. Every night they close the bridges for several hours and if you are caught on the wrong side it can be very inconvenient.[/QUOTE]
Here's what I found:
"When the bridges go up (May to late-Oct) at 2am (until 5am) and you are stuck on the wrong island, the private boats sometimes run a very extensive ferry system. "
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Skank. Thanks for the info. I'm heading to Peiter next Friday night so it looks like I will be good. The last time I was there it was in October so that sounds like accurate info. I got yanked out of Rossi's early because of a "bridge scare" and ended up taking a skank (no offense) from the bar at the Prebaltiskaya up to my room as a consolation prize. Not one of my better moments.
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Overnight going rate
What is the going rate for an overnight in St Petersburg or Moscow with a flirt girl/semi-pro. Thanks. I'm going to moscow/st petersburg for a 9 day vacation or 4 days each with a 1 day overnight train.
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[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]What is the going rate for an overnight in St Petersburg or Moscow with a flirt girl/semi-pro. Thanks. I'm going to moscow/st petersburg for a 9 day vacation or 4 days each with a 1 day overnight train.[/QUOTE]That's a matter of negotiation and depends on the type of "semi-pro" or flirt girl you mean. There are TONS of pros on the dating sites, seems that there are more and more everyday. A lot of these are just fronts for salons/agencies and not semi-pros/freelancers however. There are true semi-pros too though and you'll have to negotiate a price with them. Their pricing varies wildly, from 2000r/hour to 6000r+. The true pros will be on par with the prices you can find at salons or the individualiki on sites like [url]www.dosug.nu[/url] ... because in most cases they are from salons or agencies.
Last Thursday I had a few hours before meeting a regular girlfriend in St.Petersburg and called up two pros I had found on the dating sites.
The first one, Lola [url]http://love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=169124449[/url], (pic removed, she was a hot blonde) didn't do outcall even though before she said she would and the second, Alina [url]http://love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=127129912&oid=127129912&photos_a=1[/url] was fronting for a salon as I would later find out.
Thinking I was going to get an individualka (freelancer), I ordered Alina for 2500/hour (the pics are smoking hot) but when I went downstairs to meet her I was confronted by two absolute hags... these were really nasty chicks. I was fucking insulted and simply told them you ain't the girls from the photo and they left. About 10 minutes later I got a call from the mamachka offering me "Svetlana", describing her as truly beautiful and the usual "milaya nezhnaya dobraya" blah... I simply replied "ya uzhe ne hochu" (I already don't want to) which came off as "I already lost my lunch". Serves them right for trying to pass off their leftovers on me.
Instead of trying to find another girl, I ended up sleeping for 3 hours instead before my date, rest that I ended up needing... :)
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I love your stories man
When I use flirt I look for girls with more than 5 pictures and more amateur pics and not the professional photoshop pics.
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Finding semi-pros in Moscow/St Pete
Is much more difficult than in Vladivostok or the other major cities.
It's much easier on flirt for those cities.
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[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]Is much more difficult than in Vladivostok or the other major cities.
It's much easier on flirt for those cities.[/QUOTE]
Pricing semi-pros as you call them is highly subjective, but finding them shouldn't be a problem.
In fact on the dating sites semi-pros write ME every day as long as I keep my profile current (at top of list), so it shouldn't be any trouble to find them.
A small problem for you will likely be language as many of them only speak Russian or only want to speak Russian, i.e. are too lazy for English. Usually they only give a phone number to call and don't want to have long chat conversations, especially in English. When calling you'll have to find a way to communicate. The ones that don't want to or can't speak English will sometimes simply hang up.
Some of them will however communicate with you on chat/dating sites. You'll just have to try to find ones that do... it's a bit of admin work, but you should be able to find what you want in both Moscow and St.Pete without too much effort.
I highly suggest that you start your stay in Moscow and St.Petersburg with "a sure thing", i.e. a girl who speaks English and will come to you. It will be vital for your enjoyment of your time in Russia that you get laid right away. In my experience if I am in country for more than 2 days and still haven't gotten my dick wet I start to go stir crazy. However if I get laid on day 1, it usually sets the tone for lots of pussy.
For average outcall (she comes to you) plan on the following in Moscow in St.Pete:
Moscow: 7000 rubles/2 hours (basically 100 €/hour or $150/hour)
St.Petersburg: 5000 rubles/2 hours (basically 70€/hour or $100/hour)
Many outcall girls have a minimum of 2 hours, thus the prices listed above in 2 hour blocks. These are average prices based on my experience, some may be slightly less and some may be more.
BTW, just to clear up a misconception, many of the semi-pros, especially the super cute 18-20 year olds looking for sponsors, have HIGHER prices than true pros. So the kind of prices you will get quoted can vary wildly. The above prices are averages for girls in the "7" category, maybe a few 6s and 8s sprinkled in there, depending on your taste.
Incall (you go to her) is usually slightly cheaper and some girls only do incall.
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Gentleman Travel
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Equally, I can shun the hotel and find an apartment downtown, to be closer to the action, but still have to get to my meetings at the hotel, during rush hour.
GT[/QUOTE]
You will have to go out of the centre in the morning, against the "rush hour", heading to your hotel. Metro out of centre in the morning is not very crowded, everybody is going into the centre at that time.
So an appartment close to/on Nevskyi Prospect is a good choice, because there are several metro stations closeby.
Only problem of noise, then, in case you want to sleep.
A very attractive area is "Canale Griboyedova" or even "Moika", but can be more expensive than Nevskyi. Because these are the bigger canals in SPb; best living area in the centre.
But in case, this is too risky for you, stay in the hotel. During daytime you can take metro to Nevskiy, in the night then taxi, because bridges still open.
A reasonable bar for the evening (after 23:00) is about 200m left in front of the beautiful church of spilled blood, looking from Nevskiy. This church you can see from Nevskiy, at canale griboyedova. Also close to the metro station with same name. The bar is called "Conyushuni Dvor". They had free entrance for foreigners (passport !), cheap drinks. It is disco/bar. There you find locals, semi-pros and pros. The pros will find you ...
In case, you are in SPb around 20-April, you might do me a favour ... PM me then.
I lived in SPb 1997-2002. That was the "Golden Age" !!!
In case, you do some gambling from time to time: best casino is "Taleon Club", close to corner of Nevskiy and Moika. Even in case, you do not play poker, slot, Black jack or roulette: Inside it is like a museum.
And some secret: In the casino building there is one of the very best restaurants in the city, but still reasonable prices. The manager told me, purpose of the restaurant is to attract the wealthy Russians to gambling.
In case, you have a girl, she will be very impressed to go there with you. Strict face control, good dressing, passport for entrance as a "Guest". American/Australian management.
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Some notes
Hi folks,
Here's my five cents on St Petersburg.
Been there a few times, stayed at Pribaltiskaya once. Plenty to pick from the menu, and I'm not talking about pizza. Quite OK in my opinion, one of the girls spoke excellent english. Albeit a bit expensive.
I'll be heading on another trip within two weeks, but it seems as if I'll be staying at a hotel in the middle of nowhere. Or does any of you know of anything fun going on around Hotel Andersen (approx 15 minutes walk from the metro station Petrogradskaya)? Since I'll be "on duty" I'll have precious little time to run off for long adventures.
Also, I can testify that rush hour in St Peter is no fun at all. What about 25 km (to Pulkovo airport) in two hours? You just don't want to get caught in it.
Cheers
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[QUOTE A reasonable bar for the evening (after 23:00) is about 200m left in front of the beautiful church of spilled blood, looking from Nevskiy. This church you can see from Nevskiy, at canale griboyedova. Also close to the metro station with same name. The bar is called "Conyushuni Dvor". They had free entrance for foreigners (passport !), cheap drinks. It is disco/bar. There you find locals, semi-pros and pros. The pros will find you.[/QUOTE]This is the famous Marstall! However, for the last 2-3 years it has been nothing as compared to the old times. I had "luck" there many times in the old days, but now it is nothing, I stopped going there. But it would be interesting to get a "fresh" report, maybe things are improving?
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Strip clubs in Saint Petersburg
During the last 2 months I have been 3 times to St Peter. It has been business and most of the free time spent with new and old girlfriends. However, when I am well “saturated” with sex, I am single at the moment, and if I need to kill some hours in the night, I sometimes enjoy to go to a strip club. This is a summary of my experiences in 3 strip clubs in St Peter.
GOTICA
Located in the backyard of Nevsky Pr 88. On the street is usually a sign with an arrow pointing in the direction of the club. Entrance 500 roubles. I walked in, there were a lot of girls, and only 2 more custoers. I had not sit down before I was surrounded by 3 girls. I told them politely that I I just arrived, I wanted to have a drink and look at the show, I wanted initially to sit by myself, maybe company later. I hate this when I am attacked, I want to look and then decide myself! They paid no attention to what I said, they continued sitting and talking “what is your name, where are you from, maybe little drink together, etc.”. In the end I got angry and told them to fuck off! Yes, after quietly and politely trying to explain to them that I wanted to choose my own company, etc. , they did not listen until I got angry. After a little break - then again and again I was “attacked”. After less than half an hour I went to the bar, paid for my drink, said I did not like the behaviour and attitude of the girls who really pestered me, and I left. First time I was really angry in a strip club. Terrible attitudes! To be avoided!
DOLDEN DOLLS
This club is on Nevsky Pr, I think it is 62. It is the classic tourist trap, but has been there for many years and is well known. Entrance 700 roubles. Here it was possible to sit relaxed, a few girls offered company, but took a no for a no. I had a drink with a couple of girls, relaxed atmosphere. When I asked, one girl offered sex all night for USD1000, 400 for club, 600 for her. I rejected the offer! Private dance 1000 roubles, I had one which was very hot and made me horny. Lots of girls, not many were really hot. I enjoyed my time there, but if you sit for some time and drink with the girls, it becomes expensive.
DON’T REMEMBER NAME !
But a new club. When coming out from Golden Dolls turn left on Nevsky and then to the left into the first side street. Walk 50-100 and on the left side there is a sign with Gentleman’s Club. You go downstairs to the basement. I lived in the same building and I was there 2 times. It is a very small club, but with a friendly atmosphere. Entrance 400 roubles. One evening (Monday) there was no customer except me and only 2 girls dancing. I got almost too much attention. If the girl is up for it you can pay 6000 roubles to the club and take the girl out. What then happens is up to you and the girl which you then pay extra whatever you agree on. I did not do this, but the second time I was there I got friendly with a very hot girl, I got her phone number and we met the next day for lunch (=her breakfast!) and for USD300 we spent the time in my apartment until she had to go to work at 9 pm. All in all a nice and relaxing experience, but quite few girls and the general quality was mediocre.
SUMMARY
As everywhere, be prepared that stripclubs are ripoffs! It is important to accept this and that you are willing to spend some money to spend some relaxing time. Usually it is a waste! It is not the place to go for sex, but you may be lucky.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]During the last 2 months I have been 3 times to St Peter. It has been business and most of the free time spent with new and old girlfriends. However, when I am well “saturated” with sex, I am single at the moment, and if I need to kill some hours in the night, I sometimes enjoy to go to a strip club. This is a summary of my experiences in 3 strip clubs in St Peter.
GOTICA
Located in the backyard of Nevsky Pr 88. On the street is usually a sign with an arrow pointing in the direction of the club. Entrance 500 roubles. I walked in, there were a lot of girls, and only 2 more custoers. I had not sit down before I was surrounded by 3 girls. I told them politely that I I just arrived, I wanted to have a drink and look at the show, I wanted initially to sit by myself, maybe company later. I hate this when I am attacked, I want to look and then decide myself! They paid no attention to what I said, they continued sitting and talking “what is your name, where are you from, maybe little drink together, etc.”. In the end I got angry and told them to fuck off! Yes, after quietly and politely trying to explain to them that I wanted to choose my own company, etc. , they did not listen until I got angry. After a little break - then again and again I was “attacked”. After less than half an hour I went to the bar, paid for my drink, said I did not like the behaviour and attitude of the girls who really pestered me, and I left. First time I was really angry in a strip club. Terrible attitudes! To be avoided!
DOLDEN DOLLS
This club is on Nevsky Pr, I think it is 62. It is the classic tourist trap, but has been there for many years and is well known. Entrance 700 roubles. Here it was possible to sit relaxed, a few girls offered company, but took a no for a no. I had a drink with a couple of girls, relaxed atmosphere. When I asked, one girl offered sex all night for USD1000, 400 for club, 600 for her. I rejected the offer! Private dance 1000 roubles, I had one which was very hot and made me horny. Lots of girls, not many were really hot. I enjoyed my time there, but if you sit for some time and drink with the girls, it becomes expensive.
DON’T REMEMBER NAME !
But a new club. When coming out from Golden Dolls turn left on Nevsky and then to the left into the first side street. Walk 50-100 and on the left side there is a sign with Gentleman’s Club. You go downstairs to the basement. I lived in the same building and I was there 2 times. It is a very small club, but with a friendly atmosphere. Entrance 400 roubles. One evening (Monday) there was no customer except me and only 2 girls dancing. I got almost too much attention. If the girl is up for it you can pay 6000 roubles to the club and take the girl out. What then happens is up to you and the girl which you then pay extra whatever you agree on. I did not do this, but the second time I was there I got friendly with a very hot girl, I got her phone number and we met the next day for lunch (=her breakfast!) and for USD300 we spent the time in my apartment until she had to go to work at 9 pm. All in all a nice and relaxing experience, but quite few girls and the general quality was mediocre.
SUMMARY
As everywhere, be prepared that stripclubs are ripoffs! It is important to accept this and that you are willing to spend some money to spend some relaxing time. Usually it is a waste! It is not the place to go for sex, but you may be lucky.
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Explorer - sorry you did not read the forum where it was written number of times to avoid Gotica. During my last trip to Piter, my apartment entrance was right next to Gotica - due to all the bad publicity, I avoided it like the plague.
The main purpose of the girls in the clubs you mentioned, just like all the other clubs similar to ones in Wanchai Hong Kong, is to "separate" you from your money and try to obtain as much as possible.
Lesson for the future.
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[QUOTE=Firebird]Explorer - sorry you did not read the forum where it was written number of times to avoid Gotica. During my last trip to Piter, my apartment entrance was right next to Gotica - due to all the bad publicity, I avoided it like the plague.
The main purpose of the girls in the clubs you mentioned, just like all the other clubs similar to ones in Wanchai Hong Kong, is to "separate" you from your money and try to obtain as much as possible.
Lesson for the future.[/QUOTE]Firebird, I have seen bad reviews about Gotica,. However, I have been there before (1-2 years ago) and had a good time. Now it was terrible.
Yes, I have for a long time of my life been aware that to "separate me and my money" is what the girls in strip clubs do - and sometimes they are even very good at it! However, if you keep your head cool and you already know that you must spend some money, I have sometimes had good, relaxing, and fun moments in strip clubs, but it depends on my situation and my mood. I have also on (a few occasions) pulled some high-quality pussy, however, hetting pussy for an acceptable price is far from the rule.. I have even had a few longer relationships with strippers - of course I was the "sponsor":)).
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Peiter and Ufa and Moscow - oh my!
It's day 16 on my trip to Russia and I have been to Saint Petersburg, Ufa and now am in Moscow. I wish to heck I had written a little more often because it's all getting fuzzy.
Saint Petersburg - stayed at one of Oksana's apartments. Nevsky 72. It's half a block east of Fontanka canal. Excellent location. Unfortunately, it's also about 200 paces from Magrib's so it waaaay too easy to drop by on the way home if I was feeling lazy.
MAGRIB
While I was there three times I only left with a girl once that I had to pay. It was 3 AM and I was only one of 3 or 4 guys left at the club so the girls where left at that hour were willing to negotiate. I was able to get a lovely dark haired beauty named Victoria down to 4000 Rubles ($220) for "as long as it took". She would not sleep over but said that she would stay until I told her to go. Wow - sounds like a challenge. Had a nice time with her but nothing special. Kicked her out at about 5:30 AM as I actually had to work the next day.
The next time I dropped into Magribs, it was because I was temporarily lock out of my apartment. Chuck (Oksana’s husband) told me he would bring me the key but it would be a few hours so I decided to sit and wait at Magrib. It was only 11:00 PM so the place was only just starting to fill up. Two girls sat next to me at the and I just assumed they were working girls but they were not. They were just two little gold digging party girls who wanted someone to buy them drinks. WTF – I bought them a few until Chuck arrived with my key. When he did, the girls told me that we were leaving and going to another dance club. By now I’d had enough drinks to go along with it for a while. Katya was gorgeous and spoke English but was a B*TCH. Her friend Inessa was not quite as gorgeous but cute and fairly quiet with limited English. Long story short – after much drama, Inessa came home with me and slept over after we ditched her pretty friend.
MAXIMUS
I was in Peiter on business and some of the guys I was with wanted to hit a strip club. They were all staying at the Astoria Hotel so the doorman suggested we go to MAXIMUS which was just up the street a ways at Kerpechney, 8 which is a block south of Nevsky. The girls were absolutely gorgeous. It was the usual crap where they come near you, wiggle their hips and tits and then ask you for 100 Rubles. At lease at Safari Lodge in Moscow they would give you a lap dance. Of course, they wanted to give you a private dance but I didn’t take the bait. I think they wanted a couple thousand rubles for 15 minutes or something like that. Still a rip off. But definitely a good alternative to Golden Dolls, which I didn’t even bother with this time.
TRIBUNAL
Tribunal Bar is just off Nevsky right near Fontanka. It had just re-opened after a lengthy renovation. Nice place with lots of excellent looking girls. I was there with a blind date that I met on [url]www.mamba.ru[/url] Let me tell you, these sites are gold. I spent about $100 on Zhenya between a light dinner and drinks. We ended up doing tequila shots which I knew would lead to no good. Sure enough, by 4:00 AM she was too drunk to walk and I ended up taking her back to my place. Sex was out of the question as we were both pretty looped. Next morning we were both pretty hung over so the only thing we shared next morning was breakfast. BUT – she sent me an SMS a few days later saying “I WANT YOU” so you can pretty much guess how that ended up. Again, about $100 very well spent. Had I not been with Zhenya, I think that I would have gone back to Tribunal that next night. Definitely lots of pretty girls looking for fun.
SECURITY WARNING
Walking back from Tribunal to my apartment at 4:00 AM we were stopped by two policemen. They could see that we were both pretty drunk and asked for documents and to allow them to pat us down. They went through all of my pockets saying that they were looking for drugs and weapons. It wasn’t until after I has returned to the apartment that the bastards had relieved me of about 5,000 rubles ($200) cash. Apparently this is a common practice in SPB. Two nights later the same thing was about to occur, but this time I held my passport and my wallet and cash in the other before I “assumed the position”. The cops picked up on this and realized I knew what was going on, so they sent me on my with minimal trouble. If you ever get stopped by the cops, make sure you have your cash in your hand while they frisk you. Otherwise, all of the big bills will disappear.
While I had ample opportunity to try them, I did not visit the Salonas. I was having too much fun with the amateurs.
SUMMARY
Great town with nice restaurants and pretty girls. A little more Bohemian than Moscow, but lots of fun. However, the sad state of the dollar is making P4P an expensive proposition no matter how you slice it. I suggest that you all invest son time in the dating sites unless you can afford spending lots of cash to get your willy wet.
I will share my UFA and MOSCOW experiences in the appropriate spots.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]It's day 16 on my trip to Russia and I have been to Saint Petersburg, Ufa and now am in Moscow. I wish to heck I had written a little more often because it's all getting fuzzy.
Saint Petersburg - stayed at one of Oksana's apartments. Nevsky 72. It's half a block east of Fontanka canal. Excellent location. Unfortunately, it's also about 200 paces from Magrib's so it waaaay too easy to drop by on the way home if I was feeling lazy.
MAGRIB
While I was there three times I only left with a girl once that I had to pay. It was 3 AM and I was only one of 3 or 4 guys left at the club so the girls where left at that hour were willing to negotiate. I was able to get a lovely dark haired beauty named Victoria down to 4000 Rubles ($220) for "as long as it took". She would not sleep over but said that she would stay until I told her to go. Wow - sounds like a challenge. Had a nice time with her but nothing special. Kicked her out at about 5:30 AM as I actually had to work the next day.
The next time I dropped into Magribs, it was because I was temporarily lock out of my apartment. Chuck (Oksana’s husband) told me he would bring me the key but it would be a few hours so I decided to sit and wait at Magrib. It was only 11:00 PM so the place was only just starting to fill up. Two girls sat next to me at the and I just assumed they were working girls but they were not. They were just two little gold digging party girls who wanted someone to buy them drinks. WTF – I bought them a few until Chuck arrived with my key. When he did, the girls told me that we were leaving and going to another dance club. By now I’d had enough drinks to go along with it for a while. Katya was gorgeous and spoke English but was a B*TCH. Her friend Inessa was not quite as gorgeous but cute and fairly quiet with limited English. Long story short – after much drama, Inessa came home with me and slept over after we ditched her pretty friend.
MAXIMUS
I was in Peiter on business and some of the guys I was with wanted to hit a strip club. They were all staying at the Astoria Hotel so the doorman suggested we go to MAXIMUS which was just up the street a ways at Kerpechney, 8 which is a block south of Nevsky. The girls were absolutely gorgeous. It was the usual crap where they come near you, wiggle their hips and tits and then ask you for 100 Rubles. At lease at Safari Lodge in Moscow they would give you a lap dance. Of course, they wanted to give you a private dance but I didn’t take the bait. I think they wanted a couple thousand rubles for 15 minutes or something like that. Still a rip off. But definitely a good alternative to Golden Dolls, which I didn’t even bother with this time.
TRIBUNAL
Tribunal Bar is just off Nevsky right near Fontanka. It had just re-opened after a lengthy renovation. Nice place with lots of excellent looking girls. I was there with a blind date that I met on [url]www.mamba.ru[/url] Let me tell you, these sites are gold. I spent about $100 on Zhenya between a light dinner and drinks. We ended up doing tequila shots which I knew would lead to no good. Sure enough, by 4:00 AM she was too drunk to walk and I ended up taking her back to my place. Sex was out of the question as we were both pretty looped. Next morning we were both pretty hung over so the only thing we shared next morning was breakfast. BUT – she sent me an SMS a few days later saying “I WANT YOU” so you can pretty much guess how that ended up. Again, about $100 very well spent. Had I not been with Zhenya, I think that I would have gone back to Tribunal that next night. Definitely lots of pretty girls looking for fun.
SECURITY WARNING
Walking back from Tribunal to my apartment at 4:00 AM we were stopped by two policemen. They could see that we were both pretty drunk and asked for documents and to allow them to pat us down. They went through all of my pockets saying that they were looking for drugs and weapons. It wasn’t until after I has returned to the apartment that the bastards had relieved me of about 5,000 rubles ($200) cash. Apparently this is a common practice in SPB. Two nights later the same thing was about to occur, but this time I held my passport and my wallet and cash in the other before I “assumed the position”. The cops picked up on this and realized I knew what was going on, so they sent me on my with minimal trouble. If you ever get stopped by the cops, make sure you have your cash in your hand while they frisk you. Otherwise, all of the big bills will disappear.
While I had ample opportunity to try them, I did not visit the Salonas. I was having too much fun with the amateurs.
SUMMARY
Great town with nice restaurants and pretty girls. A little more Bohemian than Moscow, but lots of fun. However, the sad state of the dollar is making P4P an expensive proposition no matter how you slice it. I suggest that you all invest son time in the dating sites unless you can afford spending lots of cash to get your willy wet.
I will share my UFA and MOSCOW experiences in the appropriate spots.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report!
So where exactly is Tribunal? I know the supposed location on Karavanaya, but despite the Tribunal sign, all I ever saw there is a pizza place and a sports bar. So where is Tribunal exactly? And were there p4p and amateurs at Tribunal? The old Tribunal used to be a P4P place.
You scored a freebie at Magrib... good for you. I've given up on that place, even though it does aggravatingly always seem to be "just around the corner". I just hate it there.
As for the cops, it's a St.Pete tradition to get rolled by the police, welcome to the club. A few years back I was walking home drunk because my taxi couldn't drive down a one way side street and even though it was a mere 150-200m or so, within 2 minutes of being dropped off I was accosted by 6 (!) cops. I defended my wallet and passport but they got my phone. My suggestion... even if the route is short, take a taxi. I like to walk and still occasionally do, but it isn't a good idea. You stand out like a sore thumb on Nevsky and the cops are looking for suckers. In the dark back alleys you are asking for trouble. Nothing will happen 9 times out of 10... but that 10th time...
Am in St.Pete this weekend actually ... guess we just missed each other. Bummer. I'll drown my sorrows in booze and girl flesh.. :)
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Tribunal
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
So where exactly is Tribunal? I know the supposed location on Karavanaya, but despite the Tribunal sign, all I ever saw there is a pizza place and a sports bar. So where is Tribunal exactly? And were there p4p and amateurs at Tribunal? The old Tribunal used to be a P4P place.
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That's a fair question. If you are on Nevsky walk west (actually northwest) from Fontanka canal one block as if you are walking towards Oksana's office and turn right at the first street (Karavanskaya). It's only a few doors down on the right at #26. Again, it's been renovated recently and I am led to believe that they have cleaned up the place. I would not call it a P4P place as much as a dance club now but there are scantily clad (and nice looking) girls dancing on stages all around the place. What it reminds me of is the "go-go dancer" bars that used to be popular in some cities in America back in the 60's (or so I'm told). I must confess that since I had my own girl with me that I was not really paying attention to whom was "working" and who wasn't.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]That's a fair question. If you are on Nevsky walk west (actually northwest) from Fontanka canal one block as if you are walking towards Oksana's office and turn right at the first street (Karavanskaya). It's only a few doors down on the right at #26. Again, it's been renovated recently and I am led to believe that they have cleaned up the place. I would not call it a P4P place as much as a dance club now but there are scantily clad (and nice looking) girls dancing on stages all around the place. What it reminds me of is the "go-go dancer" bars that used to be popular in some cities in America back in the 60's (or so I'm told). I must confess that since I had my own girl with me that I was not really paying attention to whom was "working" and who wasn't.[/QUOTE]
Is it in the same building as the pizza place and sports bar? In any case, I'll check it out on the weekend.
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Senior moment....
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Is it in the same building as the pizza place and sports bar? In any case, I'll check it out on the weekend.[/QUOTE]
Sorry man - by then the Tequila shots had taken their toll on my memory. I don't recall the sports bar or the pizza place. Please do let us know what you find.
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Jake,
The cops seem to hang out front of Marstalls and the old Tribnal in the wee hours looking for obvious tourist mongers to harass.
Although I have walked in the past its much better to spring for a few dollars for a taxi.
I have never had a problem walking on the Nevsky at any hour but came within seconds of a 2 guys approaching for a robbery attempt at 3:00 am a few blocks off the Nevsky. Saved by a gypsy cab in the nick of time.
Once again always take a car at night. Unlike Moscow Piter has a definite danger level for tourists with cops as well as thugs the main problem.
If you are in a club and a Russian ass invites you outside for a dispute, decline and buy him a beer. Once outside you will be fighting him and his 5 buddies who will relieve of your wallet and throw your passport in the canal. The outcome along with the bruises pretty well sucks.
Guido88
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If you are in a club and a Russian ass invites you outside for a dispute, decline and buy him a beer. Once outside you will be fighting him and his 5 buddies who will relieve of your wallet and throw your passport in the canal. The outcome along with the bruises pretty well sucks.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a no win situation - avoidance sounds like the better option.
Hey, I am sitting in Heathrow on my way back home and just remembered a funny thing that happened with Mamba Girl on the first night (when there was no sex). A friend of mine who lives in Moscow scores often with semi-pros and gets more than his fair share of freebie. But he's a suspicious expat and when ever he has a strange girl over to his apartment, he hides the keys just to avoid a potential robbery. So while I was putting Mamba Girl to bed, I remembered this little gem and hid the keys just in case she woke up before me and decided to morph into a robber. Great idea - right?
Do you think I could remember where I hid the keys the next morning? Fuck no!!!!! We spent the better part of an hour looking through every nook and cranny of the apartment looking for the keys. And where were they? In the freezer of course right next to the bottle of vodka!!!! I had to laugh. And the best part was that Mamba girl laughed too. I think she got a kick out of me being afraid that she was going to rob me. In fact, I think she took it as a compliment!
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Sounds like a no win situation - avoidance sounds like the better option.
Hey, I am sitting in Heathrow on my way back home and just remembered a funny thing that happened with Mamba Girl on the first night (when there was no sex). A friend of mine who lives in Moscow scores often with semi-pros and gets more than his fair share of freebie. But he's a suspicious expat and when ever he has a strange girl over to his apartment, he hides the keys just to avoid a potential robbery. So while I was putting Mamba Girl to bed, I remembered this little gem and hid the keys just in case she woke up before me and decided to morph into a robber. Great idea - right?
Do you think I could remember where I hid the keys the next morning? Fuck no!!!!! We spent the better part of an hour looking through every nook and cranny of the apartment looking for the keys. And where were they? In the freezer of course right next to the bottle of vodka!!!! I had to laugh. And the best part was that Mamba girl laughed too. I think she got a kick out of me being afraid that she was going to rob me. In fact, I think she took it as a compliment![/QUOTE]
Haha... happened to me more than once too. The worst is when you are drunk and hide your keys... can be a nightmare to find. One good place I use is my shoes. If you haven't found them yet, you will as soon as you try to put them on... :)
Got a date with a 38kg "mamba" girl tomorrow. Wondering if that is going to be a freakshow or what.
[QUOTE=Guido88]If you are in a club and a Russian ass invites you outside for a dispute, decline and buy him a beer. Once outside you will be fighting him and his 5 buddies who will relieve of your wallet and throw your passport in the canal. The outcome along with the bruises pretty well sucks.
Guido88[/QUOTE]
If at all possible, avoid fights in Russia period. It's not worth the trouble....
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Mamba Girls
I'm heading to SPb in May and have stumbled onto the mamba. Ru site. There's not been a lot of talk about this site here (that I've been able to find). Does anyone have any experience with any of the girls here? Any bad stories?
I've already been communicating with a few of them and it seems like a pretty straight-up P4P situation, but I'm wondering if someone with first-hand experience has anything to share.
SPb sure seems to be becoming more friendly to the hobbiest since my first visit 5 years ago. From dosug. Nu girls to sites like this. The options continue to grow.
Thanks for the help!
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Mamba Girls
[QUOTE=Titus 81]I'm heading to SPb in May and have stumbled onto the mamba. Ru site. There's not been a lot of talk about this site here (that I've been able to find). Does anyone have any experience with any of the girls here? Any bad stories?
I've already been communicating with a few of them and it seems like a pretty straight-up P4P situation, but I'm wondering if someone with first-hand experience has anything to share.
SPb sure seems to be becoming more friendly to the hobbiest since my first visit 5 years ago. From dosug. Nu girls to sites like this. The options continue to grow.
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]
Absolutely yes I do have first hand experience.
Like anything else, you do need to pre-qualify and interview in advance.
The girls with the pink border are pretty much straight up P4P and in most cases will invite you to their place. However, it never hurts to ask ask if they will come to your place. If you have a nice address they will sometimes come to you if you ask nicely. Some will charge more some will not. Average rate seems to be about $100 per hour.
Now, the ones without a pink border are a little more tricky. Some are pros incognito (masquerading as normal girls) who will spring a price and a phone number on you on about the third message exchange. No big deal.
The real challenge are those who purport to be amateurs. Most of the time, these girls are just looking for excitement and will not put out on the first date (unless you have limitless charm like our friend Dr. Skank) but that's ok too if you expect not to get laid on the first date.
IMHO - the ones to watch out for are the gold diggers and Sponsorfils who are looking for a sponsor. They have the potential to string you along, waste your time and angle for anything from a plane ticket to a green card to a wedding ring. I have made it abundantly clear in my profile that I am not looking for a relationship and just looking for a good time. That will usually filter out the pretenders.
I found my little friend Zhenya on Mamba and we had a very nice time.
Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]
Got a date with a 38kg "mamba" girl tomorrow. Wondering if that is going to be a freakshow or what.
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38 Kg????? What the heck are you doing Skank? Recruiting from the elementary schools? I have heard of spinners, but you are going to a whole new level.
Let us know how it goes with "Twiggy".
Boa sorte!!!!!
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Thanks, Jake!
Lots of great advice. I've already got quite a list of contacts with the pros on mamba, so now it will be a question of how easily we can communicate with each other over the phone once I arrive. Some have already indicated a little English knowledge, so they'll be first choices.
I've stumbled my way along in the past, so I'm not worried. Just my first time with mamba, so I thought I'd better check with my compadres out there.
I've actually got a few dates lined up from using 24Open. Ru
Been chatting with them for a few months now, so that could lead somewhere, but the mamba girls will be great back-ups.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]38 Kg????? What the heck are you doing Skank? Recruiting from the elementary schools? I have heard of spinners, but you are going to a whole new level.
Let us know how it goes with "Twiggy".
Boa sorte!!!!![/QUOTE]
My limitless charm had its limits, as my date with Twiggy was a bit "dry". Barely got a kiss. Not sure if she gets a second date, even though I really would like to spread her skinny legs and break her in half.... :)
I also met an incredibly gorgeous chick from mamba, but she was ill so won't meet her again on this trip... ((( She definitely gets a second date... hopefully she will still be interested when I finally return.
By the way, went to Tribunal with a different girl last night. It is the same place as the pizzeria and sports bar. It's just downstairs through a large dark wood door that says "Tribunal" on it... duh. Don't know how I missed it before. I thought the place was pretty overpriced (300 rubles/beer) and the turn out was pretty average. Glad I brought my own girl as there wasn't much in the way of eye candy there. The regular "Russian" clubs are vastly superior in my opinion. Still, it served it's purpose... got my girl a little tipsy and she went home with me with no protest asked... and home was a 3 minute walk away.
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[QUOTE=Titus 81]Thanks, Jake!
Lots of great advice. I've already got quite a list of contacts with the pros on mamba, so now it will be a question of how easily we can communicate with each other over the phone once I arrive. Some have already indicated a little English knowledge, so they'll be first choices.
I've stumbled my way along in the past, so I'm not worried. Just my first time with mamba, so I thought I'd better check with my compadres out there.
I've actually got a few dates lined up from using 24Open. Ru
Been chatting with them for a few months now, so that could lead somewhere, but the mamba girls will be great back-ups.[/QUOTE]
As Jake aluded to, most of the girls on mamba are just normal girls. It's a dating site... however the number of pros on there seems to be growing every month.
By the way, we have mentioned mamba here very often... it's actually a system of dating sites, there are several with different names... like rambler.ru or love.mail.ru or flirt that are exactly the same "mamba" site... same database.
Speaking of database, I screwed this pro from mamba a couple days ago:
[url]http://love.mail.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=207579074[/url]
"час 3000,2-четыре."
She looked vaguely like the girl in the picture and it may actually be her, but in real life she wasn't as hot. Body was good though and performance was ok. Very little English, 4000 rubles for 2 hours.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank] Glad I brought my own girl as there wasn't much in the way of eye candy there. The regular "Russian" clubs are vastly superior in my opinion. Still, it served it's purpose... got my girl a little tipsy and she went home with me with no protest asked... and home was a 3 minute walk away.[/QUOTE]
Amen brother. I guess those tequila shots must have had their affect on my powers of recollection when it came to details about Tribunal.
BTW - I really regret not trying Rossi's on this trip. Last time I was there it was crawling with girls drinking Russian Champagne wanting to dance. There's a recipe for sex if I ever saw one! Hey - ladies night is Thursday night! Get there early for dinner (9:00 PM) for dinner and get a good table near the dance floor. You will have girls asking to come join you by 11:00 PM.
Enjoy Peiter
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Short Visit To SPB in Late April
On my first ever visit to SBP last week, I had a few free nights and wanted to enjoy some of beautiful women that SPB has to offer. I wanted a couple of hours of incall each evening, and was willing to pay a little more for incall, along with predictability on looks and services. I emailed lux-escort, spbmodels, and petersburgescorts. I did not receive any reply from the first two, but had good communication from petersburgescorts leading up to my visit.
I had settled on Natasha on the first night and Veronika on the second night and established that "Kissing with Tongue" was on the menu along with 69. They wore non-commital on OWO. Each session was 2 hours for 11, 000 rubles (I know high by this board's standards, but for minimal effort it worth the price to me).
The first night Natasha arrives, her pictures do not even come close to doing her justice. She was one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen in my life and was certainly the one or two best looking I had ever seen in escort experience. She was a perfect lingerie model look, petite, blond hair, blue eyes and a perfect body in every why. Although I had a good time with her, DFK was not on the menu, OWO was not either, but she was still somewhat enthusiastic and although somewhat rushed at times (we were more like 1:30 mins when I checked the clock), I had a good time. Not enough to want to repeat, but if you are dying for a petite russian model, this may be your cup of tea. 10 looks, 7 service, that could easily have been an 8 with some DFK.
I spoke with agency and wanted to make sure DFK was on the menu for the following night with Veronika. I was assured there was, and went on as planned. The next night, in what ended up being a pleasant surprise when it was done, Viktoriya was sent as a replacement. She looks exactly like her pictures on the website, if not a little better. Although I was looking forward to Veronika, about 20 seconds into the session, I was thrilled with the replacement. I had set the mood nicely in the room with music, candle light, and some wine, and Viktoriya was extremely responsive if not outright ethusiastic. The chemistry along with a slow and passionate beginning help set the tone for a great time. In the slightly 2+ hours together, she comes close to one of best sessions I had ever had. Passionate DFK non stop, OWO after a while, sex in many positions, some very creatively suggested by her. The session was a nice combination of sensual and warm while having some breath taking moments to keep things exciting.
For Looks I would give her a 9, she was a tall and athletic women who was very attractive for 27, for performance I would give her a 9. 5. I have rarely had this level of chemistry with an escort along with this level of enthusiasm. My only regret is that SPB is so far away and complicated to visit on short notice making a repeat in the near future hard to accomplish.
Thank you very much to everyone on this board. I appreciate all the help and education from this forum over the past few months.
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[QUOTE=Punter411]Each session was 2 hours for 11, 000 rubles (I know high by this board's standards, but for minimal effort it worth the price to me).
Thank you very much to everyone on this board. I appreciate all the help and education from this forum over the past few months.
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Jeez that was a bit on the pricey side for Petes, but whatever floats your boat! Sounds like you had a great time. Thanks for the report!
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Jeez that was a bit on the pricey side for Petes, but whatever floats your boat! [/QUOTE]Don't encourage him, Skank! Please, guys. Don't pay those kind of prices. It hurts everyone! And it's really unnecessary. Plenty of beautiful women for MUCH less! No need to help inflation.
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Salon Scene
This was my first visit to SPB.
Tried Elis yesterday, it is near moscow hotel.
Taxi driver took me there. They offered a price of 3000 ruouble. I asked them to show the girls. And was offered 3 crap ones. Fat old ugly.
Then insisted on different variety. Had to wait for 10 mins and 3 more came. They too were looking tired, and maybe a 5-6 ranking on a scale of 10. Asked them tht I was not happy and would leave.
She asked to wait for 10 mins. Nd got 3 more girls. These were better. Fuckable. Maybe 7.
Decided on one named yana. Not so enthusiastic in bed.
Not a good experience. Overall.
But it helps to reject the first lot, so that their entire portfolio is available to be seen.
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Thanks!
Although, I have mongered extensively in other parts of the world (specifically Argentina and Brazil), this is my first trip to Russia. Already spent six nights in Moscow and now I am in St. Pete for additional 10 nights.
This message is an open acknowledgemt of help by two outstanding posters, Jake993 and Doctor_Skank. Through PM they went out of their way to help me and make my trip memorable. Guys, a big [b]thank you[/b] from bottom of my heart.
About mongering, I can only stress that learning the language is a must. Normally that's what I do before visiting any new country. But this one was a real challenge and I did not have enough time to make it a go. Next time it will be better. However, a few key words and phrases that I mastered have helped me a lot so far.
Russia is very expensive regarding mongering. So my only option at this point are the salons, one of which I visited today. A photomodeli place at Fontanka 109 ( many thanks to Spangle, post # 988 for excellent direction). Absolute mind blowing experience with a very good-looking girl, Marina. DFK, BBBJ and all positions. Took showers together. Went twice and I made her come once with a deep DATY. For 2000 P an hour, I can't complain.
Bandy
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A photomodeli place at Fontanka 109 ( many thanks to Spangle, post # 989 for excellent direction). Absolute mind blowing experience with a very good-looking girl, Marina. DFK, BBBJ and all positions. Took showers together. Went twice and I made her come once with a deep DATY. For 2000 P an hour, I can't complain.
Bandy[/QUOTE]
Damn Bandy, now you've got me regretting the fact that I never visited the Salonas!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Damn Bandy, now you've got me regretting the fact that I never visited the Salonas!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
Salons are St.Pete's best bet in terms of pro sex, for sure...
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Just landed in Brazil.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Salons are St.Pete's best bet in terms of pro sex, for sure...[/QUOTE]
I'm in my hotel room in Belo Horizonte, Brazil at 5:30 PM on a Sunday afternoon. What to do, what to do. The problem is that pickings are pretty slim on a Sunday night. I posted an "info request" on the Brazil forum and got squat!!!!
Might have to call up an escort to come help me deal with 2 hours of jet lag.
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Mamba girl question
So I've been noticing that some of the Mamba professional girls that I chat with and get info from (phone number and rates) delete their profile. Anyone know why they would do that? It's not all of them, but I'd say at least 20% of them have done it so far. Makes me wonder if there's a problem.
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Bar Tribunal
I just returned from a trip to St. Petersburg, where I was visiting the Bar Tribunal. It has been a while (about 2 years) since I have been there the last time.
I new from this forum, that the place has now moved to the Nevsky Prospekt. However, besides that, I still expected to find there dozens of nice girls as in the past.
But in fact, last week, this place was completely empty. No girls at all and only 5 or 6 guys drinking a beer. This at 01.00 AM!! Nobody paid attention to the dancing showgirls who made a great performance.
Does anybody know what has happened to all those girls that were hanging at the old Tribunal? Do they go somewhere else now, or did I just pick the wrong day and time to go there?
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[QUOTE=Titus 81]So I've been noticing that some of the Mamba professional girls that I chat with and get info from (phone number and rates) delete their profile. Anyone know why they would do that? It's not all of them, but I'd say at least 20% of them have done it so far. Makes me wonder if there's a problem.[/QUOTE]
They don't delete their profile, their profile gets deleted. One of the major issues is use of fake photos, that's why some of the girls will write in their profiles messages to the mod that the photos are really of them and that they shouldn't be deleted.
Other than that they may just be deleting a profile to open a new one and start over at the top of the list.
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[QUOTE=Cliffy]I just returned from a trip to St. Petersburg, where I was visiting the Bar Tribunal. It has been a while (about 2 years) since I have been there the last time.
I new from this forum, that the place has now moved to the Nevsky Prospekt. However, besides that, I still expected to find there dozens of nice girls as in the past.
But in fact, last week, this place was completely empty. No girls at all and only 5 or 6 guys drinking a beer. This at 01.00 AM!! Nobody paid attention to the dancing showgirls who made a great performance.
Does anybody know what has happened to all those girls that were hanging at the old Tribunal? Do they go somewhere else now, or did I just pick the wrong day and time to go there?[/QUOTE]
Like you, I was unimpressed with Tribunal. Where the hoes are is a great St.Pete mystery. With Tribunal slow, Magrib and Marstalls having had their glory days years ago, it seems that there still is no viable pick up bar for *****s in St.Petersburg. I can't explain it either.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]
Might have to call up an escort to come help me deal with 2 hours of jet lag.[/QUOTE]
Oh boo hoo! )))
Get some Brazilian tang for me bro, I'm suffering with all these skinny white women.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]They don't delete their profile, their profile gets deleted. One of the major issues is use of fake photos, that's why some of the girls will write in their profiles messages to the mod that the photos are really of them and that they shouldn't be deleted.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Skank!
Any suggestions on how to know if the photos are fake?
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June2007
I return two days last june spent to my favourite city Saint-Petersburg and in spite of my superb arrival making jalous even the American rich mongers, my karelian guide Jane pictures on Republic of Karelia topic in the russian section Other she manages spending the first night with me with her short miniskirt impossible to make shorter . Then for photomodelli it is true that that it changed in addition to a rise of the rates i didn't have the phone numbers of brothels and photomodeli website does not run in Russia I tried on Marata 22 where I saw entering then to leave fifteen minutes after a group of 4 rich Chinese toutists furious and obviously dissatisfied with the offer of young russian, asiatic people like russian women and it's a sign with this luxurious living room which does not mislead consequently I am not assembled, if not I was to the 162 Nevsky prospect where just a brunette. St Pete it changes, it's not what it was.
There is the map with locations of brothels in St Pete who can help rookies.
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Done.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Oh boo hoo! )))
Get some Brazilian tang for me bro, I'm suffering with all these skinny white women.[/QUOTE]
Take a look at my posts in Brazil - Belo Horizonte. This non-pro / semi-pro thing has seems to translate from Russia to Brazil quite well and I have you to thank for it Dr. S. Moito Obrigado!!!!
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[QUOTE=Titus 81]Thanks Skank!
Any suggestions on how to know if the photos are fake?[/QUOTE]
Just use some common sense and your best judgement... and if the girl that shows up at your door isn't the one in the pictures, send her away.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Take a look at my posts in Brazil - Belo Horizonte. This non-pro / semi-pro thing has seems to translate from Russia to Brazil quite well and I have you to thank for it Dr. S. Moito Obrigado!!!![/QUOTE]
I'm jealous.. )
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Apartment individualka vs. Salon
This trip to St. Petes (my 6th) will be the first time I've rented an apartment for my stay. I've done the Salons (very nice, usually) and the hotel providers (hit & miss). I'm wondering if someone with experience could offer the pros and cons of visiting a dosug.nu girl at her salon (or her apartment) vs. having her come to my apartment.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Like you, I was unimpressed with Tribunal. Where the hoes are is a great St.Pete mystery. With Tribunal slow, Magrib and Marstalls having had their glory days years ago, it seems that there still is no viable pick up bar for *****s in St.Petersburg. I can't explain it either.[/QUOTE]Russian Men have more money (or at least credit) now, and russian girls seek russian men not foreigners.
But this could change with inflation and oil prices.
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Discovery on Nevski prospect
On my personal experience - surprisingly in an appartment on the corner of Sadovaia 13 & Nevski ([url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/ankets/85/[/url]) girls presented on photos aren't fake ! And absentie from gallery oriental beauty Sara is surprisingly beautiful.
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Not alway fake
[QUOTE=Titus 81]Thanks Skank!
Any suggestions on how to know if the photos are fake?[/QUOTE]On my personal experience : surprisingly in an appartment on the corner of Sadovaia 13 & Nevski girls (ex. [url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/ankets/85/[/url]) presented on photos aren't fake ! And absentie from gallery Sara, even surprisingly beautiful.
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For real??
[QUOTE=Member38]On my personal experience : surprisingly in an appartment on the corner of Sadovaia 13 & Nevski girls (ex. [url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/ankets/85/[/url]) presented on photos aren't fake ! And absentie from gallery Sara, even surprisingly beautiful.[/QUOTE]Has anyone else had direct experience with this site? It looks like one of those "too-good-to-be-true" deals! Why aren't any of these women on reputable sites like dosug. Nu?
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[QUOTE=Titus 81]Has anyone else had direct experience with this site? It looks like one of those "too-good-to-be-true" deals! Why aren't any of these women on reputable sites like dosug. Nu?[/QUOTE]Only inconvinience of the place that most of them speachless in english and less in russian (uzbek native language). With sometimes unforseeble reactions.
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St. Petersburg Report- mostly for newbies
Since I received a lot of help from the forum members, I thought it is about time to detail my experience. Nothing really new, but some of it may be helpful for newbies. Recently, I spent 10 days in SPB. Major interest was touring. We were kind of involved with a host russian family for the tour and did lots of normal stuff. However, we had plenty of time to ourselves for mongering.
The perspective of this report is from the standpoint of non-Russian speaking monger. Because of my extensive mongering experience in other countries, very soon, I determined that the best way to spend my money is to visit salons. Although, one night, I contacted one of the independents to come to my apartment. She was ready to come, but my telephone line was apparently a shared line [I complained to Oksana about that]. When another woman answered my phone, she got scared and that was the end of it. I never tried after that for any outcall. There are excellent reports posted in the REPORT OF DISTINCTION section, especially by Spangle and GandJim, regarding the salon scene. It is very easy to master the metro system in SPB. With a 34 P roundtrip cost, that is your best bet to reach the salons. However, there are other practical problems, even when you reach the buildings (mainly to get the door codes and the apartment numbers, since I did not have a cell phone and don’t speak the language properly). Make sure you have the telephone number of the salon. What I did was to look for a young Russian male, who speaks English, approaching to his car. I just handed him the telephone number and let him make the call. It worked every time. One time, I got so impatient waiting for a young man, that I walked into a store borrowed a phone from the nearest girl and in my limited Russian was able to get the door code. A word about the door code. Sometimes they give a code like 9B. B is like the star button (the lowest left button) in our phone system. After hitting the B button, wait for a while. The electronics takes time to take effect. Once it goes through the cycle, you hear a beep and sometimes OPEN is also displayed. Another observation regarding buildings: if the building has multiple entries, always try the ugliest one first. In one of the buildings around 11 PM, there was absolutely no light on the staircase. We always carried a flashlight and that saved the best experience of the trip. It got quite hairy when we discovered some questionable figures at the top of the stairs in the pitch-dark. With this little intro, I will give you some details of the salons, I visited. Two of the girls speak great English, so obviously the sessions were great. I mainly visited the photomodeli places, since the girls really look like their photos.
[b]Best Romantic experience:[/b]
[b]MARINA[/b] in Photomodeli located at Fontanka 109. Tel: 812-948-44-11. (I mentioned this in an earlier report [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=738882&postcount=1064[/url]). I went there a few times. The Madame is nice and they are liberal on the clock. 2000 P an hour.
She is a new girl in this facility. The moment I laid eyes on her, it was all over. I knew she was it. This girl never spoke a word of English. But from the get go, she was very romantic. DFK, BBBJ, shower together, generous DATY and two rounds were offered. If not for my Moscow experience of the last night of my trip, I would rate her the best in this trip. Her link for the website:
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/?action=girl&do=0&id=943[/url]
[b]Very good experience:[/b]
[b]ALINA[/b] of the same facility. She is really pretty. 22 yr. old gorgeous slim blonde. She is a college student, doing it two or three times a week. Because of family issue, they don’t have her picture in the book. I wish I could have taken her picture.
She was a lot of fun. Great sense of humor. Since there was no language barrier (speaks fluent English), I also acted out the way I wanted. However, her service is restricted. Light DFK, CBJ and no DATY. Two rounds were offered. Her performance was first rate. Towards the end, she was more open to things. You won’t regret it.
[b]Another very good experience:[/b]
[b]KRISTINA,[/b] in Photomodeli at Nevsky Prospect 95. 812-958-11-18 When you reach the building walk straight inside the courtyard and the door should be right in front of you (the address is written in Russian on the door). 1800 P/hr.
Kristina is really pretty (see her picture link) and speaks great English. She is graduating with a computer degree in June and will quit the trade (so they all say). Anyway, she was also a great fun. The girl has extremely fair skin and not a strand of hair in the pubic region whatsoever. The DATY was really great. CBJ and two rounds. This one is strongly recommended. Her website link
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/?action=girl&do=0&id=877[/url]
[b]Mixed Experience:[/b]
[b]LENA,[/b] another Photomodeli, Prospekt Kamennoostrovskiy, building #24 (tel:812-995-29-29). It is also inside a courtyard. Go for the ugly looking door. They charge 2500 P/hr. She was not my choice. Since my friend went with one, I called her back and went with her. No English, but I was having some fun with my broken Russian. She took a shower with me. Great natural boob, great DFK and allowed DATY. CBJ, but rushed. According to my friend, they cheated us at least 20 min. She reluctantly went for the second round, but I lost my interest and saved my bullet. In this entire trip, only picture I took is of this girl. I think, this place probably should be avoided. Her website link
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/?action=girl&do=0&id=404[/url]
[b]MUST AVOID[/b]
Nevsky Prospect 63. 812-948-62-00. don’t go inside the courtyard. It is on Nevsky Prospect, just under the building number 63, you will see the entry door. 2500 P/hr. It goes to show, that money does not predict the quality. In this trip, both 2500 P place turned out to be duds. About 7-8 girls in the line-up. I took a cute one but in the room she turned out to be the worst in the trip. There was no service to talk about. Let us say, the free coffee they offered was the highlight of the session. What a waste of time and money! My friend had a similar experience with his girl. AVOID the place. Her website link:
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/?action=girl&do=0&id=953[/url]
[b]Salon Ellis.[/b] Nevsky Prospect 175. They charge 2500 P/ hr. We wanted to break away from Photomodeli salons. So we tried this one. However, the line-up of 6 girls was extremely un-inspiring. We saved our money and bullets. Before leaving, the Madame called her boss, who asked me what kind of girl I want. Just told him that we will be back next day and left in a hurry, before he shows up in person.
[b]CLUB SCENE:[/b]
Thanks to Jake993, we visited [b]ROSSI[/b] on a Thursday night. Entry 400 P. The best experience. The strip shows, both by female and male dancers were very provocative with some audience contact. This is the only night I really regretted that I did not master the language. This place is full of possibilities. Wall to wall girls. One of them was eyeing me. Before I made the move another young Russian picked her up and within a split second they were kissing each other on the dance floor. If you speak Russian, must visit this place.
[b]METRO,[/b] went once. You get 4 soft drink coupons with your admission (may be 200 P). As has been said, this is really for young kids. I have nothing to do here. Left after an hour.
[b]MAGRIB.[/b] Our apartment was 100 meters from this place. We stopped by every night for late night snacks. There were a few for the takeout. One night they were very aggressive. But they are not my type. By now, I thought they were nowhere near to the salon girls in quality. And I was certainly not prepared to shell out 5000 P for subpar material.
Inside the bar, the girls who were on the menu, again, were not that attractive. The attractive girls mostly came for dancing and having a good time. The girl I was interested, seemed to me, will be very expensive and refrained from making an offer. In my experience, these money hungry girls are never a good bet for the bedroom activities. No regret.
[b]A PROFOUND MONGERING OBSERVATION:[/b]
In nearly all my mongering experiences, I encountered a preponderance of enhanced boob jobs. It was totally missing here. I never encountered a single one in the strip clubs (over 25 extremely close contact lap dances) or salons. Most of these girls have an either A cup or small B. In the USA, all of them will have a boob job and charge double the money. What a beautiful experience to handle the natural package.
[b]A SCOCIAL OBSERVATION (Positive):[/b]
I found generally people are nice and helpful. All those horror story I was reminded constantly, left me in a hurry after couple of days. We walked all over (especially in MOSCOW) at 3 AM. Never been stopped by Police or any rogue element. That does not mean, you should not be careful. It is just any other country. Use common sense and you will be fine.
[b]A SCOCIAL OBSERVATION (Negative):[/b]
Everybody smokes. The non-smoking areas in restaurants are a joke. Atria group can be rest assured that their profits are here to stay.
[b]I LEFT WITH A BANG:[/b]
My best experience of this trip took place in MOSCOW in one of the strip clubs. I still could not recover from it. I wish, I could have done her earlier, when I spent 6 days in MOSCOW at the beginning of my trip. If I get time, I will detail it under Moscow section.
Again THANKS to Doctor_Skank and Jake993 for their help. Sorry guys, I could not do any outcall, for the reasons described above. May be next time I will be better prepared with the language. Take care you all.
Bandy
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One night stay
Hi there,
I was in St Pete last week for a short business trip. I am in the wine business so my Russian partners had organised a wine dinner in a fine French restaurant. The good thing about it is that they were some really pretty guests (a smoking brunette in particular who is coming to France soon, I sense. And hope!. This could go somewhere. And also a sommelier that would turn any teetotaller into a wine addict). The bad thing is that we finished fairly late and that left me little possibility to explore the salons. When I read Bandy's report (great report, btw), I wish I had had the time to visit.
Anyway so my dinner ended at around 1:30 am, I was back to the hotel (Kempiski Moika 22. Really nice hotel btw) at around 2 am. Changed iinto something more comfortable and proceeded downstairs to the cafe/lounge. 2 obvious WGs gave me the eye but didn't find them very attractive. I was about to abandon any idea of going out when a group of 4 young guys got out of the elevator, coming down from the hotel fine dining restaurant. Asked them if they were going out and if I could join them and they were OK with it. 4 guys from Denmark on a business trip as well, hungry for freeebies, no mongerers (I told them it will come later). First club/bar empty, then to Marstall where we shared a few glasses. There were some obvious WGs trying to hit on us and then a few less obvious ones (I wish the dancers were game but no. Gorgeous girls). Talked to the only one that I found quite good looking, Julia, who quickly gave me her tariff (150€ for 2 hours of promised GFE) but theyguys left for another place so I followed them. They checked a few strip clubs but they were pretty desert so they decided to call it a night. As that point it was quite late but I still had Julia in mind so walked back to Marstall. Stopped at the bar of Hotel Grand Europe on the way, saw 2 more WGs eyeing me but none to my taste. So went into Marstall, found Julia who seemed to be happy to see me again, agreed on the price (maybe I should have bargained but compared to Moscou prices it didn't seem outrageous). We walked back to my hotel and she actually acted like a complete GF, holding my hand, kissing me. I was starting to really like her. Back to the hotel where her attitude didn't change. I started with a back massage which quickly turned into something more sexy and that how she got started. Love those engines. What followed was a great session (my only regret was BJ but didn't mind as she put a lot of energy in it). Told me she would have loved to stay longer but that she had a son to take care of so left at 5:30 am with a sweet DFK. Don't know if she lied but didn't mind too much as I had a working day ahead of me with a flight to Moscow late PM.
Moscow report where I met with Dr Skank himself to follow.
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Moscow strip club
[QUOTE=Bandy]
Again THANKS to Doctor_Skank and Jake993 for their help. Sorry guys, I could not do any outcall, for the reasons described above. May be next time I will be better prepared with the language. Take care you all.[/QUOTE]
Bandy - always a pleasure to help.... especially when advice leads to success!
Hey - just out of curiosity, which strip club did you have good luck with in Moscow? I have a trip to Moscow coming up that involves some "Moscow first timers" and a I need a good strip club to take them to.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]
Hey - just out of curiosity, which strip club did you have good luck with in Moscow? [/QUOTE]
[b]Shandra[/b]
Hope to write up the report soon.
Bandy
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[QUOTE=Bandy][b]Shandra[/b]
Hope to write up the report soon.
Bandy[/QUOTE]Yeah, heard good tihings about "the new Shandra" as well... hope to visit myself sometime soon. Looking forward to your report!
Thanks for the comprehensive report on Petes too, good stuff!
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[QUOTE=Mindighet Lechat]Hi there,
I was in St Pete last week for a short business trip. I am in the wine business so my Russian partners had organised a wine dinner in a fine French restaurant. The good thing about it is that they were some really pretty guests (a smoking brunette in particular who is coming to France soon, I sense. And hope!. This could go somewhere. And also a sommelier that would turn any teetotaller into a wine addict). The bad thing is that we finished fairly late and that left me little possibility to explore the salons. When I read Bandy's report (great report, btw), I wish I had had the time to visit.
Anyway so my dinner ended at around 1:30 am, I was back to the hotel (Kempiski Moika 22. Really nice hotel btw) at around 2 am. Changed iinto something more comfortable and proceeded downstairs to the cafe/lounge. 2 obvious WGs gave me the eye but didn't find them very attractive. I was about to abandon any idea of going out when a group of 4 young guys got out of the elevator, coming down from the hotel fine dining restaurant. Asked them if they were going out and if I could join them and they were OK with it. 4 guys from Denmark on a business trip as well, hungry for freeebies, no mongerers (I told them it will come later). First club/bar empty, then to Marstall where we shared a few glasses. There were some obvious WGs trying to hit on us and then a few less obvious ones (I wish the dancers were game but no. Gorgeous girls). Talked to the only one that I found quite good looking, Julia, who quickly gave me her tariff (150€ for 2 hours of promised GFE) but theyguys left for another place so I followed them. They checked a few strip clubs but they were pretty desert so they decided to call it a night. As that point it was quite late but I still had Julia in mind so walked back to Marstall. Stopped at the bar of Hotel Grand Europe on the way, saw 2 more WGs eyeing me but none to my taste. So went into Marstall, found Julia who seemed to be happy to see me again, agreed on the price (maybe I should have bargained but compared to Moscou prices it didn't seem outrageous). We walked back to my hotel and she actually acted like a complete GF, holding my hand, kissing me. I was starting to really like her. Back to the hotel where her attitude didn't change. I started with a back massage which quickly turned into something more sexy and that how she got started. Love those engines. What followed was a great session (my only regret was BJ but didn't mind as she put a lot of energy in it). Told me she would have loved to stay longer but that she had a son to take care of so left at 5:30 am with a sweet DFK. Don't know if she lied but didn't mind too much as I had a working day ahead of me with a flight to Moscow late PM.
Moscow report where I met with Dr Skank himself to follow.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time! Kempinski Moika22 is my favorite hotel in St.Petersburg, friendly in every sense of the word and the view from the restaurant upstairs is great. That view has helped me get laid on a number of occasions. :)
Thanks for the Marstalls update, I admit I haven't been there in about 3 years. Wish that place would pick up again.. or has it? Anybody else been there recently?
And yeah, the dancers have always been great there but I have never been able to pick one up. The club "security" seems very against it as well.
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[url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/spb/eng/girls/[/url]
is this for real ? or are they touched up? is there a bait and switch or are these true pics?
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[QUOTE=Boofer][url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/spb/eng/girls/[/url]
is this for real ? or are they touched up? is there a bait and switch or are these true pics?[/QUOTE]Never used them, but looks like pretty standard salon/apartment fare. Of course the pictures are photoshopped and what shows up at your door probably has a few imperfections in decent light, but she is still going to be solid hotness.
At best visit a salon, look at the talent close up and make a selection.
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Loso in St. Petersburg - Hot Ice
[b][color=green][size=4]Sani[/size][/color][/b]
When a porn shoot was canceled, I turned my attention to the salons. Sani from the Amsterdam Gorkovskaya salon was a Russian girl of Korean descent who came highly recommended. I’d checked the Amsterdam website every day since I’d arrived in St. Petersburg, but she was never working...
Judging from the web site, prices seem to have gone up since I visited St. Petersburg. From 2000 to 2500 RUB for 1 hour and from 3000 to 4000 RUB for 2 hours.
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/anketa.php?id=445&photo=1[/url]
They were late putting the roster up, but when it was finally published... Sani made her first appearance in over a week. :) I wanted to call the salon and have Sani delivered to my apartment. But, as far as I knew, nobody spoke English at her salon.
When I made the call, I was surprised the operator spoke English. When I enquired about Sani, I was even more surprised when the voice on the other side replied: “That’s me!” :) Unfortunately, Sani wouldn’t come to my apartment. I had to make my way to the salon.
I had three options:
- Deal with the Mafioso taxi drivers.
* Nah!
- Walk to the nearest metro station and figure out the St. Petersburg subway system.
* Nah!
- Walk!
* My phone indicated it was a 3,2 km walk.
* The GPS system would show me the way.
* I like to walk!
On my 7th day in St. Petersburg, I finally left Nevsky Blvd. In fact, I’d hardly spent any time outside of my apartment. :) The walk along Sodovaya and over the bridge yielded some spectacular scenery. I finally got to see a glimpse of this gorgeous city.
When I was outside the building, I called the salon again. Sani answered the phone; the mamochka came down to meet me. Even though I came specifically to see Sani, I was shown a selection of 5 girls.
- Julia was fat.
- Katarina was really fat.
- Sani was the Asian girl I wanted to meet.
- Zhenya was tall, had the perfect figure and looked gorgeous.
- Karina was equally tall & beautiful.
The girls were too far away to get a proper look at them, but Zhenya and Karina looked like babes. Sani didn’t look as beautiful as in her Internet pictures, but she spoke English and came recommended...
Sani actually speaks 4 languages: Russian, Korean, English and Arabic. The mamochka was all ears as I was talking to Sani. But she didn’t speak English and couldn’t understand a word we were saying. Perfect! :)
Sani stubbornly kept refusing to accompany me to my apartment, even when I told her she’d been recommended by a friend whose apartment she did visit. Sani stopped doing outcall after a bad experience. She suggested I choose another girl and even offered to negotiate and translate for me. I considered sending for the 2 Amazons from the lineup. I was torn...
Sani allowed pictures – dressed only. But she wouldn’t agree to French kissing or BBBJ. When she changed her mind about tongue twisting, I decided to “relax” with Sani in the salon. The mamochka finally smiled as I handed her 3000 RUB for 2 hours with Sani.
The shower facilities weren’t exactly on a par with the Jacuzzi in my apartment... and I had to shower alone... and Julia walked in on me. After snapping a few pictures of her, Sani put a condom on and started blowing me. Her oral skills were truly fantastic and Sani’s mouth never tired. Against all odds, she actually managed to make me come. Even then, a CBJ simply doesn’t feel right.
We relaxed for a little while. Apart from a few pecks on the lips, Sani wouldn’t kiss me. I started nibbling on her tits, then moved south. By the time I got to her pussy, Sani was already soaking wet. She hadn’t been working in over a week. I was her first customer of the day. Sani was horny as hell...
Sani pumped and grinded my dick like a woman possessed. When she finally reached an orgasm, she totally collapsed. I just held her tight. But even in this intimate moment, Sani wouldn’t kiss me. After a little break, Sani assumed the position and I fucked the crap out of her doggy style... until I collapsed.
Sani volunteered to give me her phone number. She wanted to come and visit my apartment. She promised to French kiss me. Well, she said that today... and lied.
Sani was like hot ice. On the one hand, she was a super-horny fuck. On the other hand, she was holding back and wouldn’t do any of the things she was told not do. Brainwashed by the fucking salon! :mad:
Loso
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Loso in St. Petersburg - General
[b][color=green][size=4]Russian Visa[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=3]Visa Invitation[/size][/color][/b]
The first hurdle to overcome to obtain a Russian visa is getting a visa invitation. I ordered mine from the following website:
[url]http://www.expresstorussia.com[/url]
After paying 25 USD, I received the invitation letter by e-mail (PDF format) the next day.
BTW, my current Internet security software (Russian Kaspersky!) warns me about a Trojan when I click on “Order Visa Invitation”. I didn’t experience any problem when I ordered the letter. But that was months ago, on a different PC with Norton Internet Security installed.
[b][color=blue][size=3]Russian Embassy[/size][/color][/b]
I took the train to the Russian consulate in Ukkel. As I approached the right house number, I saw people queuing up... outside... in the rain. Great! :p
Once inside, they X-rayed my briefcase. After that, I joined another queue... to meet the cutest of Russian girls. She spoke French and English, but seemed as cold as a Siberian winter. But she did accept my application, even though I had no business going to the embassy in Brussels. Based on where I live, I should have gone to the consulate in Antwerp.
Anyway, after coughing up 35 EUR, I was outta there with the prized yellow ticket. A few days later, I joined the queue again to exchange the ticket for my passport… embellished by a Russian visa. Luckily, it wasn’t raining that day.
[b][color=blue][size=3]Miscellaneous[/size][/color][/b]
The visa application form can be downloaded from the Internet. There is a separate form for US citizens.
You must know your exact entry and exit dates before applying for a visa. Once the visa has been issued, those dates cannot be changed.
One of the requirements to obtain a Russian visa is travel insurance valid in Russia.
[b][color=green][size=4]Getting There[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=3]Eurolines[/size][/color][/b]
I took the Eurolines bus from Tallinn to St. Petersburg. I called the Eurolines office in Tallinn to make a reservation the day before. The girl on the phone spoke perfect English and informed me that the schedule on their Internet site was outdated:
[url]http://www.eurolines.ee/?id=1247&lang=en[/url]
The bus left at 10.15 AM and arrived at 6.45 PM - 7h 30m travel time. The fare was 320 EEK. The bus made many short stops along the way, but never stopped long enough for us to have lunch.
At the Russian border, a woman came onto the bus, collected our passports and returned them a few minutes later. We had to take our luggage to get our passports stamped and go through customs, where our luggage was X-rayed.
[b][color=blue][size=3]Transfer from Bus Station[/size][/color][/b]
I’d booked a transfer with Oksana Apartments (15 EUR). They consulted the Eurolines website to find out which bus station I would be arriving at (final stop). The website was wrong and the taxi was waiting at the wrong bus station.
When Elena (from Oksana Apartments) couldn’t find another taxi at short notice, she finally picked me up herself. :)
[b][color=green][size=4]Accommodation[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=3]Chaikovskogo 69[/size][/color][/b]
After checking out various apartment sites, this seemed like the perfect place for porn shoots:
[url]http://www.oksanas.net/St_Petersburg_1br_Flats/Tchaik69/T69.asp[/url]
When I discovered the same apartment on the Lana Escort site, I figured it would be cool for a monger to rent an apartment from an escort site.
[url]http://www.lanaescort.com/apartment.htm[/url]
I e-mailed Lana. She replied a few days later and confirmed my reservation (95 EUR/day). The day before I was scheduled to arrive in St. Petersburg, an SMS from Lana announced that my reservation had been canceled. Another apartment was available… for 140 EUR/day. It won’t surprise you that my reply included the words “Fuck Off” and “Bi*ch”. :mad:
[b][color=blue][size=3]Oksana Apartments[/size][/color][/b]
Securing alternative accommodation at the last minute wasn’t easy. This huge 1 bedroom apartment from Oksana Apartments was available:
[url]http://oksanas.net/St_Petersburg_1br_Flats/N64-1/N64-1.asp[/url]
I was staying for 8 days, but the apartment was only available for 7 days. Oksana insisted on charging 130 EUR (price for 1-7 days). I was only willing to pay 120 EUR (price for 8-14 days). When I threatened to make reservations with a different rental agency, Oksana finally caved in. :)
The first night, I stayed in this gorgeous studio apartment (95 EUR):
[url]http://oksanas.net/studio_apartments/N64-7/N64-7.asp[/url]
The location was perfect. Both apartments were magnificent. Cleaning service was included, but the maid often knocked on the door at inopportune times. :)
- Oksana Apartments charges 20 EUR to register your visa.
- Fast Wireless Internet was available in both apartments. I paid 20 EUR for 8 days.
[b][color=green][size=4]SIM Card[/size][/color][/b]
I bought a Russian SIM card (MTS Russia) for 180 RUB while waiting for the taxi at the bus station. That was the easy part.
Topping up my card proved a lot more difficult. You need to send an SMS to recharge your card, which won’t work if your balance is down to zero. They finally managed to get the job done, but you shouldn’t wait until you run out of money before recharging your card.
[b][color=green][size=4]ATM Machines[/size][/color][/b]
On Nevsky, I noticed few ATM machines along the street. But there were ATM machines inside the entrance of every shopping mall. Of course, they’re closed at night! They accept foreign debit and credit cards. Some only give out local currency. Others dispense USD as well.
[b][color=green][size=4]McDonald’s[/size][/color][/b]
The McDonald’s close to my apartment on Nevsky was hugely popular. At night or on weekends, when there is little personnel, you may have to queue up for 30-60 minutes before getting served!
The locals come in groups. One of them stakes out a table. The others join the different queues. The one who gets to the front of the queue first orders for everyone. The Russian system!
Russian McDonald’s don’t have menus. Weird!
[b][color=green][size=4]Nevsky Traffic[/size][/color][/b]
One day, as I walked out of my apartment, there were 2 bodies lying in the middle of the street. One of them was already dead. They were trying to reanimate the second victim. To no avail…
This is a common occurrence in St. Petersburg. Only cross a busy street at a zebra crossing. Only cross when the light is green. Even then, watch out! Russians drive like madmen and some guys actually enjoy running people over!
Loso
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Loso in St. Petersburg - Overview & Conclusions
[b][color=green][size=4]Timing[/size][/color][/b]
I was in St. Petersburg:
September 5 - September 12 (8 nights)
[b][color=green][size=4]Statistics[/size][/color][/b]
During my 8-day stay in St. Petersburg, I had:
ST: 10
LT: 0
Girls: 10
[b][color=green][size=4]Salons[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=blue][size=3]Overview[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=2]Amsterdam Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.intimspb.ru[/url]
The Amsterdam chain runs 5 salons. When I visited St. Petersburg, I was able to check which girls were currently working. Unfortunately, they haven’t put the roster up since February 2008.
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=26[/url]
[b][color=purple][size=2]Amur SPB[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.amurspb.ru[/url]
Features girls from various salons. Also has independent escorts on offer.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Babochka Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.sexbabochka.ru[/url]
Babochka only has 2 salons, neither of which allow outcall.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Domino Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.dominogirls.org[/url]
The Domino group currently operates 8 salons. The web site features phone numbers for English and German speakers.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Elis Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.elis-spb.ru[/url]
The Elis chain consists of no less than 15 salons.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Fantaziya Love Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru[/url]
There are only 2 Fantaziya salons in St. Petersburg.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Photomodeli Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url]
Photomodeli is the best known group. They have 10 salons open for business.
[b][color=purple][size=2]Sex Mission Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Website
- [url]http://www.sexmission.ru[/url]
The Sex Mission site used to be available in English. These days, they use Google translation. :)
[b][color=blue][size=3]Finding Salons[/size][/color][/b]
Unless you speak Russian, the St. Petersburg salons are notoriously difficult to find. The web sites often only mention phone numbers. Unless someone on the other side of the line speaks English, you’re stuck.
I had the addresses (even the GPS coordinates) of all the St. Petersburg salons. But that’s not enough. The salons are located in huge soviet-style building compounds and you’ll never be able to locate them unless you have precise directions.
[b][color=blue][size=3]Salon Experiences[/size][/color][/b]
[b][color=purple][size=2]Preparation[/size][/color][/b]
Resident guru Doctor Skank provided the following guesstimation about the services provided in St. Petersburg salons:
- BBBJ: 50%
- DFK: 60%
- DATY: 50%
- CIM: 25%
Since these statistics were unacceptable, negotiating services in advance seemed to be a must. But you normally don’t get the opportunity to talk to the girls. And very few of them speak English.
Apparently, Russian girls don’t like to be submitted to a questionnaire anyway. Blame the KGB! :) They’re unlikely to agree to “unusual” requests like DFK, BBBJ or anal, especially in front of their colleagues or the mamochka.
I was told to trust to luck and hope to have a good chemistry with the girl. Not my style!
[b][color=purple][size=2]Photomodeli Nevsky[/size][/color][/b]
My first night in St. Petersburg, I met up with [Name deleted at subject's request]. He’d been to St. Petersburg before, had some salon experience and spoke the language. After having dinner together, we retired to my apartment. [Name deleted at subject's request] called Photomodeli Light 1 and was told they had 6 girls on offer. But since we couldn’t find a taxi willing to take us there, we walked to Photomodeli Nevsky instead.
As we entered the viewing room, a few girls were sitting on the sofa. They were quick to make their escape. The mamochka showed us 2 girls. An average-looking blonde wouldn’t even look in our direction. A curly-haired brunette was past her sell-by date.
The mamochka said she could show us 2 more girls if we were prepared to wait for 10 minutes. Neither of us was interested in the fat blonde. We both fancied a short-haired brunette called Lena. Since I was still a salon virgin, [Name deleted at subject's request] was generous enough to offer Lena to me.
In situations where you have to pay in advance, the girl has to agree to pictures before I cough up the dough. Even though I knew it was against salon protocol, I asked [Name deleted at subject's request] to enquire whether Lena would allow pictures. Not surprisingly, the answer was: “Nyet”.
Since I’d lost interest in her, [Name deleted at subject's request] ended up fucking Lena in the salon. She did kiss, but only gave him a CBJ. And, of course, he wasn’t allowed to take any pictures.
After doing research on the St. Petersburg salon scene, I figured I’d hate the damn places. One salon visit was enough to confirm my worst fears. The ambiance was clinical. The line-up was too far away to get a decent look at the girls and the dyevs seemed cold as ice. The fact that there was no opportunity to interact with the girls totally killed it for me.
One other thing. Lena was one of the girls sitting in the sofa when we entered the salon. Since she was available, why wasn’t she part of the first line-up? [Name deleted at subject's request] also saw several other girls on the way to the room. Why weren’t they presented to us? Could the line-ups be tailored to the customer?
[b][color=purple][size=2]Amsterdam Gorkovskaya[/size][/color][/b]
I figured my first salon visit would also be my last. But when a shoot was cancelled, a salon visit was my only alternative. At the Amsterdam Gorkovskaya salon, I was lucky enough to meet a girl who spoke good English. Since the mamochka was unable to communicate with me, I talked to the girl. But the domineering mamochka was listening in and making her presence felt, even though she couldn’t understand our conversation.
During our session, Sani blew hot and cold. When I wanted to give her a goodbye kiss in the corridor, she truly seemed scared as she whispered: “Not allowed!” The salons seem to do a very thorough job of brainwashing the girls. Don’t do this! Don’t do that! To get a good performance out of salon girls, you have to deprogram them. This requires communication (unlikely unless you speak Russian) and possibly multiple sessions. Or maybe you have to find girls that are new to the scene, and catch them before the indoctrination has set in.
In short, the salon system works against you. Some people may like rowing against the stream. Some guys may enjoy the challenge. I prefer smooth sailing. For me, if the system sucks, the story ends.
[b][color=green][size=4]Escorts[/size][/color][/b]
The salon sites are exclusively in Russian. The same goes for most of the escort sites. Some of the English sites only display the girls’ phone numbers to paid members. On others, the girls carry ridiculous price tags.
The only site worth checking out for non-Russian speakers is Rus Dosug. It has a huge selection in all price ranges and offers extensive search facilities.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com[/url]
The girls are supposed to be independent escorts, but many of them actually work in salons.
[b][color=green][size=4]Freelancers[/size][/color][/b]
There are 3 bars where you can meet freelancers:
- Magrib
- Marstalls
- Tribunal
My research revealed that the freelancer scene in St. Petersburg sucks these days. Even though Magrib was spitting distance from my apartment, I couldn’t be bothered to check it out.
[b][color=green][size=4]Final Words[/size][/color][/b]
I travelled to St. Petersburg to make movies with Russian porn stars. They were magnificent performers. After doing research on the P4P options, I figured the salon scene wouldn’t be my cup of tea. I was willing to give them a try, but a couple of salon visits confirmed that I hate everything about the damn places.
Loso
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here some pics of my first (the best) visit in this wonderful city of st petersburg. the girl [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] was as young as on the photos, she has a boyfriend i fucked her strongly i broke a bed and fucked her on the desk hardly. i had one night with her. the real name of this girl is olga.
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Elit VIP, Nevsky Prospect
Apologies for the delay in submitting this, as my St Petersburg visit was last month. In fact, after reading Bandy's comprehensive report (#1083) I nearly didn't bother, as the girls he met were stunners. Think I must have been in St P at the same time, and I wish I'd had the benefit of his advice before I went. Anyway, I hope this may be of some use to other newbies.
I rang a couple of agencies previously mentioned on this site. Platinum quoted RUB9000 for 2 hours, and nobody at the Domino number I rang spoke English, so ended up visiting Elit VIP (812 973 1313), at 50 Nevsky Prospect (cnr Sadovaya Street). Cost was RUB2000 for 1 hour.
I struggled to get exact address details from Christina, the mamochka, so she came down from the salon to meet me outside the "Lena" boutique. The actual apartment is just round the corner, in the first courtyard, so I'm glad she came down or I'd never have found it.
Anyway, 2 girls were available (I believe a third was with a client), both in their early 20's. Nastya was a rather hard-looking brunette, tall and slim; and Samira was also a tall, slim brunette, with pretty lingerie and with a more exotic look (maybe part Kazakhstan? ), and I decided on her.
Large but sparsely furnished room, and Samira was quite friendly. Nice tight body, firm B cup tits, and she started off by licking my chest and stomach before moving on to CBJ. Had an enjoyable 15 minutes or so of this, with plenty of ball licking and no attempt to rush things by using her hands.
I then moved on to DATY, which she seemed rather surprised by. Maybe local mongers don't go for this? Anyway, her initial hesitation soon gave way, and she got very into it. Her clean-shaven pussy was soon soaking as she arched her back, shoving her whole snatch into my face. A tentative foray into licking her pouting arsehole met no resistance, and she soon had her legs behind her ears, basically "presenting" herself for a thorough licking.
I got a bit carried away with this, and suddenly realised my hour was passing by, so got Samira to start with CBJ on me again. She must have appreciated my oral efforts to please her as she blew me far more enthusiastically this time, licking my arsehole and slurping away at my balls. I could feel the pressure starting to build, so rather than going for FS, I just went with the flow and she soon brought me to a nice climax. The timing was perfect, as shortly after there was a knock on the door. There's nothing worse than getting the "hurry up" when you're still straining to cum!
Samira didn't speak any English, but she was friendly, pretty and had a nice slim fit body. Perhaps I could have asked for more in the way of BBBJ and kissing. Not sure if this was on offer, I'm sure more experienced mongers would establish that.
So, while not a patch on Bandy's gorgeous Photomodelli babes, if you're down at the Hermitage end of Nevsky Prospect, VIP Elit would be worth checking out.
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Have you any pictures of this Oriental beauty?
Whinger,
Have you any pictures of this oriental beauty?
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Samira, Elit VIP
Sorry Member 38, no photos.
Just to clarify, I wouldn't say she was "oriental" as such. More European, with a hint of Eastern features. I should've submitted my report sooner, its been a month now and I'm struggling to remember exactly.
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[QUOTE=Whinger]Sorry Member 38, no photos.
Just to clarify, I wouldn't say she was "oriental" as such. More European, with a hint of Eastern features. I should've submitted my report sooner, its been a month now and I'm struggling to remember exactly.[/QUOTE]Was it this girl : [url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/eng/ankets/85/[/url] - Sabina?
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To answer member 38, yes, I'm pretty sure that was her (though she looks a bit younger in the web photos, and it was about 6 weeks ago so I'm not 100% sure).
I must have misheard her name, apologies for the confusion.
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Porn shooting in St. Petersburg
I'm going to St. Petersburg the last weekend of August to do shooting with Russian porn stars (mixphoto.com). (By the way, Elena has been EXCELLENT at getting me information about the girls and helping me determine what I want.)
(1) Are any punters going to be in town the last week of August who want to get together for a glass of Vodka?
(2) I'm doing a 2 boy-on-2-girl scene and a gangbang scene with some eager and willing young ladies. I will likely hire Russian porn actors for these scenes, but if someone here wants to participate and you'll be in St Petersburg the last week of August, send me a PM for details. Current HIV/HepB+C/Syphillis/HSV test mandatory, no exceptions!
My business is in audio/video (sorry... wedding photos and the like, pretty boring stuff :-( ). But I've got some pretty high-end equipment. Look for great posts on this forum this fall!
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I'm going to St. Petersburg the last weekend of August to do shooting with Russian porn stars (mixphoto.com). (By the way, Elena has been EXCELLENT at getting me information about the girls and helping me determine what I want.)[/QUOTE]Regarding my post below, I meant the last "week" in August, not just the weekend.
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Update about Spb
Coming to Spb this coming Friday until Sunday.
Extensively read all the reports and have to admit to be a little lost as far as the general scene is concerned.
Could anyone give me recent infos about where to find (besides the english speaking escort sides mentioned) good looking girls. Not being specially keen on salons, I would appreciate to have infos about the bar scene (any update on Magrib? Or others) and the hotel lobbbies and hotel bars. Infos on Radisson Hotel scene also appreciated.
Thanks you guys for your contribution adn will not miss to report in case of big success or total failure.
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[QUOTE=Loso69][b][color=green][size=4]Timing[/size][/color][/b]
I had the addresses (even the GPS coordinates) of all the St. Petersburg salons. But that’s not enough. The salons are located in huge soviet-style building compounds and you’ll never be able to locate them unless you have precise directions.
Loso[/QUOTE]Hi, my first post for a request, sorry :-P
Could you post somehow GPS coordinates of SPB's sites?
It could be really useful.
Next hint is to ask by phone witch "Quartira" (for understand witch building), and try to keep in memory russian numbers.
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Thank you!
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[QUOTE=Upupa]Hi, my first post for a request, sorry :-P
Could you post somehow GPS coordinates of SPB's sites?
It could be really useful.
Next hint is to ask by phone witch "Quartira" (for understand witch building), and try to keep in memory russian numbers.
[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
Thank you![/QUOTE]Hello everybody. That's my first post as well. Recently I've used some info from this forum while visiting Germany. Now that's payback time.
I'm Russian and live in St.Petersburg and can help a little bit.
Some general info:
Loso69's breakdown for extra services in local reality should be:
- BBBJ: 20% - CIM: 10% (either mature pros or drug addicted girls)
- DFK: 60% - DATY: 50% (deppends on girl's mood mostly)
Anal is also an extra service (for add costs)
Saloons. Main thing to mention - more than a half of web posted photos are fake! For example
- http://www.sexbabochka.ru
- http://www.dominogirls.org
- http://www.elis-spb.ru
- http://www.fantaziyalove.ru
- http://www.sexmission.ru
- http://www.escortspb.ru
contains a lot of girls which at the moment you came to saloon will be:
- not working any more
- has a day off
- just left for... bla-bla-bla
- already occupied
But you can try your luck find some not yet posted girls.
As to local sexbiz monster http://www.photomodeli.ru, situation is more encouraging. All girls shown on web are real (pics are "Photoshoped" but not much) but exact number of girls should be reconfirmed with saloon admin. Besides there are a lot of girls without pics but worth to pay attention )))
As to the problem to find the saloon. Either initially or after phone call you'll get the address. To find address in our city is not really hard. And finally you can ask admin to accompany you from the street to the appartment in order to not be confused with "Quartira" number.
So. The last thing. You'll undoubtedly face language problems. The matter is that most part of the girls are from small towns around all Russia/Ukrain etc and have only basic foreign languages knowledge. But guess it won't stop you ))).
Anyway if any other info is required - just ask. I'll try to help.
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[QUOTE=Upupa]Could you post somehow GPS coordinates of SPB's sites?[/QUOTE]
The GPS coordinates can be downloaded [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/download.html]here[/url]. It's a file to be used with TomTom, but in the FAQ there are explanations on how to open and convert it to other formats like for Garmin, etc... You can also just have a look at the Google Map of St-Pete salons if you're interested only in a couple of salons.
Jim
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St.Pete Horndogging
Anybody going to be in Petes this weekend July 26-27? I will likely hit a salon in the late afternoon/early evening and then go to the clubs and chase women.
If you are going to be in town, we could hook up. I've only got 3 regular non-pros and can probably meet them in the afternoons or evenings, so my nights should be open.
PM me.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Anybody going to be in Petes this weekend July 26-27? I will likely hit a salon in the late afternoon/early evening and then go to the clubs and chase teenagers.
If you are going to be in town, we could hook up. I've only got 3 regular non-pros and can probably meet them in the afternoons or evenings, so my nights should be open.
PM me.[/QUOTE]Hello Doctor!
I will arrive to Peters the 1st of August. Will you be there at that time? I like your plans and I can be a good companion!
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[QUOTE=SX Man]Hello Doctor!
I will arrive to Peters the 1st of August. Will you be there at that time? I like your plans and I can be a good companion![/QUOTE]Regrettably I will already be gone by then... I am pretty much only there for the one weekend.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Regrettably I will already be gone by then... I am pretty much only there for the one weekend.[/QUOTE]Pity!
Is there anyone else who want to go & fish young nice russian girls with me during the first week of August?
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Anybody going to be in Petes this weekend July 26-27?
If you are going to be in town, we could hook up. I've only got 3 regular non-pros and can probably meet them in the afternoons or evenings, so my nights should be open.[/QUOTE]I do (tomorrow), having only one local non-pro, but _she_ is planning to fill my days (and nights) till Monday.
But nice to know, if plans appear to change.
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[QUOTE=Stp Guide]Hello everybody. That's my first post as well. Recently I've used some info from this forum while visiting Germany. Now that's payback time.
I'm Russian and live in St.Petersburg and can help a little bit.
Some general info:
Loso69's breakdown for extra services in local reality should be:
- BBBJ: 20% - CIM: 10% (either mature pros or drug addicted girls)
- DFK: 60% - DATY: 50% (deppends on girl's mood mostly)
Anal is also an extra service (for add costs)
Saloons. Main thing to mention - more than a half of web posted photos are fake! For example
- [url]http://www.sexbabochka.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.dominogirls.org[/url]
- [url]http://www.elis-spb.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.sexmission.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.escortspb.ru[/url]
contains a lot of girls which at the moment you came to saloon will be:
- not working any more
- has a day off
- just left for... bla-bla-bla
- already occupied
But you can try your luck find some not yet posted girls.
As to local sexbiz monster [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url], situation is more encouraging. All girls shown on web are real (pics are "Photoshoped" but not much) but exact number of girls should be reconfirmed with saloon admin. Besides there are a lot of girls without pics but worth to pay attention )))
As to the problem to find the saloon. Either initially or after phone call you'll get the address. To find address in our city is not really hard. And finally you can ask admin to accompany you from the street to the appartment in order to not be confused with "Quartira" number.
So. The last thing. You'll undoubtedly face language problems. The matter is that most part of the girls are from small towns around all Russia/Ukrain etc and have only basic foreign languages knowledge. But guess it won't stop you ))).
Anyway if any other info is required - just ask. I'll try to help.[/QUOTE]Hello,
I should be in S. Petersburg in two weeks time.
I will appreciate if you could tell me something about streetwalkers. Where are they to be found, average quality and prices.
I know other cities in Eastern Europe and sometimes there not too bad, sometimes the come from the gutter or sometimes the do not exist.
If not are there any bars to meet semi-pros? I have seen in the forum quite a lot of addresses but they seem to focus on the ultra totty babes, usually overpriced.
Which is the REGULAR.I know, I know it depends a lot on the quality of the girl and the implication- price for a normal service I. E. An hour?
Regards
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St Petersburg
I was there a month ago. I found it generally poor in terms of the scene. Bars mentioned in these posts are mostly dead and certainly not much fun. There are a lot of pretty girls around by day but at night they seem to vanish. The 5 star hotels always have a couple of rough looking 40 year olds by the lifts. There are definitely pros and semi pros in Magrib but the place feels sleazy. By far by far the best place I found was called xxxx, like the beer. There are 3 of these bars, the music is fantastic and everyobody is there to have fun. Mostly Russian. not pros regular people but lots more girls than guys. If you speak even 10 words of Russian you may get lucky. And if you dont get lucky you will have fun anyway. Walk down Nevsky Prospect late at night ie 11-2am smoking and various young ladies will approach you and ask for a light, some pretty some not. They seem to be amateurs just looking to make a few hundred bucks 1-2 nights a week. I took a couple home on different occasions. 1 was great, pretty, good body but no blowjob, the other did a good blowjob but had no condoms and much tho i would have liked to fuck her bareback which she seemed quite relaxed about I did not want syphilis so came all over her bum and pussy instead after the blowjob.Syphilis common in ST Petes by the way. Of the 6 girls I fucked when there I think I could have done them all bareback if i had asked nicely. Scary.
One more thing. There is a boat called zbareva accross the bridges from the winter palace. It is moored on the embankment. strip boat. really really hot women and they will get a little jiggy with you in the rooms but only because they want to upsell you a blowjob for about 6-8000 roubles (a lot of money, maybe $300) which you would only do if you were very drunk or very stupid.
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[QUOTE=Tonyphotoman]I was there a month ago. I found it generally poor in terms of the scene. Bars mentioned in these posts are mostly dead and certainly not much fun. There are a lot of pretty girls around by day but at night they seem to vanish. The 5 star hotels always have a couple of rough looking 40 year olds by the lifts. There are definitely pros and semi pros in Magrib but the place feels sleazy. By far by far the best place I found was called xxxx, like the beer. There are 3 of these bars, the music is fantastic and everyobody is there to have fun. Mostly Russian. not pros regular people but lots more girls than guys. If you speak even 10 words of Russian you may get lucky. And if you dont get lucky you will have fun anyway. Walk down Nevsky Prospect late at night ie 11-2am smoking and various young ladies will approach you and ask for a light, some pretty some not. They seem to be amateurs just looking to make a few hundred bucks 1-2 nights a week. I took a couple home on different occasions. 1 was great, pretty, good body but no blowjob, the other did a good blowjob but had no condoms and much tho i would have liked to fuck her bareback which she seemed quite relaxed about I did not want syphilis so came all over her bum and pussy instead after the blowjob.Syphilis common in ST Petes by the way. Of the 6 girls I fucked when there I think I could have done them all bareback if i had asked nicely. Scary.
One more thing. There is a boat called zbareva accross the bridges from the winter palace. It is moored on the embankment. strip boat. really really hot women and they will get a little jiggy with you in the rooms but only because they want to upsell you a blowjob for about 6-8000 roubles (a lot of money, maybe $300) which you would only do if you were very drunk or very stupid.
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Thanks for the info... most useful.
Sorry if I abuse of your kind patience, but can you say where did you find your six girs, at least others not found at the street. Some information about the rates?
Have anyone visited any reliable clubs? Which area should be best for renting an apartment during weekends?
Regards
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Now in Petersburg...anyone wanna monger together?
Hi fellows!
I'm in St. Petersburg. Anyone wanna have a beer and maybe going hunting russian chicks with me?
Please let me know!
Marco
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Greetings SX Man,
I appreciate your interest in advising other members of your impending travel plans, but this section of the Forum has a separate thread titled [b]TRAVEL PLANS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS[/b] specifically for posting these sort of personal announcements so that they don't clutter up the General Discussion threads.
You might also consider using the Forum's Private Message system for exchanging personal travel plans with other Forum Members.
On behalf of your fellow Forum Members, [i]Thank You![/i]
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[QUOTE=Tonyphotoman]IWalk down Nevsky Prospect late at night ie 11-2am smoking and various young ladies will approach you and ask for a light, some pretty some not. They seem to be amateurs just looking to make a few hundred bucks 1-2 nights a week. I took a couple home on different occasions. 1 was great, pretty, good body but no blowjob, the other did a good blowjob but had no condoms and much tho i would have liked to fuck her bareback which she seemed quite relaxed about I did not want syphilis so came all over her bum and pussy instead after the blowjob.Syphilis common in ST Petes by the way. Of the 6 girls I fucked when there I think I could have done them all bareback if i had asked nicely. Scary.
[/QUOTE]That's depressing. Several times in the last few years I've walked home down Nevsky and nobody ever chatted me up for a last minute desperation score... :)
Had a great time in bars and clubs though, so I still enjoy St.Petes a lot... but absolutely agree (and have been saying for years) that there is not a good pick-up scene for pros. Thankfully the local devage is still quite easy
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[QUOTE=Stp Guide]- [url]http://www.sexbabochka.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.dominogirls.org[/url]
- [url]http://www.elis-spb.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.fantaziyalove.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.sexmission.ru[/url]
- [url]http://www.escortspb.ru[/url]
contains a lot of girls which at the moment you came to saloon will be:
- not working any more
- has a day off
- just left for... bla-bla-bla
- already occupied
But you can try your luck find some not yet posted girls.
As to local sexbiz monster [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru[/url], situation is more encouraging. All girls shown on web are real (pics are "Photoshoped" but not much) but exact number of girls should be reconfirmed with saloon admin. Besides there are a lot of girls without pics but worth to pay attention )))[/QUOTE]Hello,
I'am also from St.Petersburg.
Mostly, agree with Stp Guide, only three remarks.
1. "Photomodeli" saloons are very popular due to the appropriate management, so it is much better to avoid visits on Friday night, too overcrowded. At weekends (Saturday-Sunday) the number of girls without pics usually increases.
2. [url]www.escortspb.ru[/url] features mostly real pictures of girls.
3. Stp Guide had forgotten about most wonderful St.Pete site amurspb.ru, a piece of information will be there in english soon.
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Girls on Nevsky Prospekt
[QUOTE=Tonyphotoman]Walk down Nevsky Prospect late at night ie 11-2am smoking and various young ladies will approach you and ask for a light, some pretty some not. They seem to be amateurs just looking to make a few hundred bucks 1-2 nights a week. ][/QUOTE]This has happened to me twice as well. I have been in SPB maybe 30 times and this happened twice last year. One girl was not interesting at all, the other was. When she approached me I was on my way to another girl, but I got her number and called the next day. She was nice and friendly. Student trying to do a little extra. I don't remmeber how much I paid, but it was less than normal in SPB. She was OK, but not a big experience.
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Escort girl
Earlier this summer I was in SPB for a few days in connection with work. I enjoyed the company of a girlfriend, but one evening I was by myself. I had to get up early, so I was lazy and I called one of the too expensive escort agencies and asked for this girl: [url]http://www.lux-escort.com/anketa.php?aid=170&img=1[/url]. She was a very sweet, intelligent, friendly student girl. However, she was better social company than for sex. The sex was OK, but nothing special! And of course: too expensive!
I was inside Magrib for 2 minutes on a Sunday evening. Totally dead!
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[QUOTE=Institoris]Hello,
I'am also from St.Petersburg.
Mostly, agree with Stp Guide, only three remarks.
1. "Photomodeli" saloons are very popular due to the appropriate management, so it is much better to avoid visits on Friday night, too overcrowded. At weekends (Saturday-Sunday) the number of girls without pics usually increases.
2. [url]www.escortspb.ru[/url] features mostly real pictures of girls.
3. Stp Guide had forgotten about most wonderful St.Pete site amurspb.ru, a piece of information will be there in english soon.[/QUOTE]Hi there. C Y at Amur. (Priest)
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Anyone in SPB the last week of August?
I'll be in St. Pete the last week of August doing porn shooting. I'll be busy during the day, but available at night. Is anyone up for getting together for a glass of vodka or looking for a wingman for some evening/night mongering?
PM me if you're interested.
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Explorer 69
200 Euro for an hour? There’s nothing on that site even approaching that price level.
Your one of the experienced RU mongers.
Hopefully you’re leading the direction of quality and price for the many lost newbies.
What happened? Was Dominos closed or Photmodeli taken the day off? So many salons and options.
My only real concern is that the newbies DO NOT take this as normal. Piter has many many stunners available at half the price for twice the time.
Guido88
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I agree!
[QUOTE=Guido88]Explorer 69
200 Euro for an hour? There’s nothing on that site even approaching that price level.
Your one of the experienced RU mongers.
Hopefully you’re leading the direction of quality and price for the many lost newbies.
What happened? Was Dominos closed or Photmodeli taken the day off? So many salons and options.
My only real concern is that the newbies DO NOT take this as normal. Piter has many many stunners available at half the price for twice the time.
Guido88[/QUOTE]G88,
I totally agree! This is far too expensive and I usually don't go for such a price. However, usually I am in Russia/Ukraine for 2-3-4-5 days for business, working all day and I have to get up in the morning. This limits the time when I can hang around in cafes/bars, nightclubs picking up girls. Regarding pros and semipros. I usually find cheaper than this. However, I usually don't look for the cheapest as is the case with several others on this forum, money is not the most important part for me. Up to a limit). And I prefer to have a girl for several hours with some dinner, drinks etc. , maybe all night. If you "click" in this way you get a LOT MORE. And maybe next night is much cheaper and outside the agency, I have many excellent experiences with that. But also some definite losses).
But for me it is important to get the girl to me quickly and not spend all night on the town. I am certain that newbees read enough on this forum to get information about prices etc. , knowing that there are much cheaper girls. We all organize things a bit differently depending on for instance the time you can invest. And time is also money.
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Looking forward to the feedback ...
Hey Shelbysbaker ... looking forward to your upcoming report! Hopefully, you're still on with mixphoto. Please post your experiences!
[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I'm going to St. Petersburg the last weekend of August to do shooting with Russian porn stars (mixphoto.com). (By the way, Elena has been EXCELLENT at getting me information about the girls and helping me determine what I want.)
(1) Are any punters going to be in town the last week of August who want to get together for a glass of Vodka?
(2) I'm doing a 2 boy-on-2-girl scene and a gangbang scene with some eager and willing young ladies. I will likely hire Russian porn actors for these scenes, but if someone here wants to participate and you'll be in St Petersburg the last week of August, send me a PM for details. Current HIV/HepB+C/Syphillis/HSV test mandatory, no exceptions!
My business is in audio/video (sorry... wedding photos and the like, pretty boring stuff :-( ). But I've got some pretty high-end equipment. Look for great posts on this forum this fall![/QUOTE]
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RE: Looking forward to feedback
[QUOTE=Chill Bill]Hey Shelbysbaker ... looking forward to your upcoming report! Hopefully, you're still on with mixphoto. Please post your experiences!
[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]Originally Posted by Shelbysbaker
I'm going to St. Petersburg the last weekend of August to do shooting with Russian porn stars (mixphoto.com). (By the way, Elena has been EXCELLENT at getting me information about the girls and helping me determine what I want.)
(1) Are any punters going to be in town the last week of August who want to get together for a glass of Vodka?
(2) I'm doing a 2 boy-on-2-girl scene and a gangbang scene with some eager and willing young ladies. I will likely hire Russian porn actors for these scenes, but if someone here wants to participate and you'll be in St Petersburg the last week of August, send me a PM for details. Current HIV/HepB+C/Syphillis/HSV test mandatory, no exceptions!
My business is in audio/video (sorry... wedding photos and the like, pretty boring stuff :-( ). But I've got some pretty high-end equipment. Look for great posts on this forum this fall![/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Of course I'm still on with mixphoto. I just wish the day would come quicker.
Working with Elena there is wonderful! I mean usually when you set up an escort, you may just cover some simple details when booking (BBBJ, maybe CIM. That's about it)
With Elena, our emails are more like "will she take a vibrator up her ass while I cum inside her and then have her girlfriend suck my cum out of her pussy. " The answer so far to all my requests has always been the same: "no problem! " If you have any doubt about how beautiful the girls are, or how nasty they can be, rent a Sineplex film sometime. You'll see a lot of Lena's girls there, and you'll book your ticket to St Petersburg before the film has finished.
I'll try to post photos here while I'm there (if I'm not too busy having fun). But I'd like to post some bigger, high-res ones too. What's the best way to do that? (I think there is a limit to the size of photos I could post here)
P.S. I've had no replies yet to my posts requesting a wing man for nocturnal mongering, or for actors (or even actresses) with current STD tests who want to participate in the gangbang. You have 5 days left to respond.
For those who are interested, here is my gangbang girl: [url]http://www.ggcash. Eu/streaming_trailer_download.php? Id=140flv[/url]
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mixphoto girls
Hey Shelbysbaker ... which mixphoto girls are you working with? I have access to the site and would like to check them out. What ID#'s ... if you don't mind sharing. Then, I can (even more) look forward to your report! :)
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[QUOTE=Chill Bill]Hey Shelbysbaker ... which mixphoto girls are you working with? I have access to the site and would like to check them out. What ID#'s ... if you don't mind sharing. Then, I can (even more) look forward to your report! :)[/QUOTE]My current list is:
Alena 584 + Olga 522
Sasha 652 + Masha 633
Julia 619
Philipina 606
Julia 635
Veronika 657
But these are subject to change all the way up to the last minute. As you may notice from Catalyst's reports, girls tend to cancel at the last minute. Elena says this is not a problem with the boys. Of course, I completely understand that. I have no intention of canceling my shoot with any of these beautiful girls at the last minute!
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I'm a big fan of Alena and Julia! Looking forward to those pics! :)
[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]My current list is:
Alena 584 + Olga 522
Sasha 652 + Masha 633
Julia 619
Philipina 606
Julia 635
Veronika 657
But these are subject to change all the way up to the last minute. As you may notice from Catalyst's reports, girls tend to cancel at the last minute. Elena says this is not a problem with the boys. Of course, I completely understand that. I have no intention of canceling my shoot with any of these beautiful girls at the last minute![/QUOTE]
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Mixphoto shoot #1: Alena 584 + Tanya 596
As I posted here on the forum, following in Catalyst's footsteps I made the trip to St. Petersburg to fuck Russian porn stars with mixphoto.com. I've just had my first photo shoot, and it exceeded my wildest dreams. My next shoot is tonight and I'm almost worried that it'll be a let-down; last night's shoot was so mind-blowing, I think it'll be hard to top it. Fortunately, knowing Elena's girls, it needn't be a concern.
CAMERA MAN
Lena set me up with an aspiring cameraman, Anton, who is 23 years old and has been in the industry as a performer for the last 5 years. He recently moved behind the camera, so he's still a little inexperienced with photography. You'll see from the attached photos, he had a tendency to cut the models' feet out of the frame, and make other newbie errors. However, I'm very happy with the selection. Since Anton worked as talent for so many years, he was able to give me the rundown of how a normal porn shoot works. He's also fucked many of the performers and has a good rapport with them.
Anton helped me plan the entire shoot and also explained how to shoot photos and videos better. Rather than interrupt the video shoot to shoot photos, we ran through the entire scene for photos, all the way up to just before the cumshot. Then we took a break, re-dressed, and started over again for the video shoot with the cumshot at the end.
MODEL SELCTION
Since this was to be my first ever porn shoot, I originally selected Olga 522 and Alena 584--both experienced porn actresses who I thought could take the appropriate poses and positions without depending totally on my inexperienced direction. Olga 522 became ill at the last minute the only girl available from my list was Tanya 596. Lena warned me that Tanya was an exceptional performer, but was not that attractive, specifically "My friends (content providers ) say me what she fantastic work. very very professional. but without make up she looking no good."
I agreed to Tanya 596 due to the recommendation of "fantastic work." But when I showed Anton the girls I had selected for the scenes, he saw Tanya and made the same comment.. "Have you seen her?" He asked, "She's not beautiful like Alena." I was beginning to have second thoughts about my choice, but it was too late to change it... I figured I had five more shoots after this one in case this one turned out to be a dud.
SET UP
The scene was originally scheduled for 3 pm, but had been postponed to 4:30 pm since the girls hadn't done the required medical tests, and they needed to get them done before the shoot. At 4:30 pm, we received a phone call that the girls hadn't received the results yet, and would be late. They finally arrived around 5:30.
Alena walked in first: She is about 5'8", a lithe teenager with a model-like figure. I had already seen countless photos and videos of her, but she looked way better in real life than on any photo. Tanya followed. What Lena and Anton had described as "looking no good" and "not beautiful" was a beautiful, petite bombshell. She stood about 5'5" and couldn't have been more than 110 lbs. She had high heels and tight, low-rider jeans that accentuated her tiny hips. Her tight blouse revealed nice, medium-sized and a slim waist; it ended just short of her belly button ring. Long dark hair framed her face and pretty brown eyes. About the only minor imperfection she had was a couple of blemishes where she probably had acne as a teenager (she just turned 20, so it's not that long ago). I realized right then that mixphoto was a different world than I was used to. Tanya would easily rate an 8+ in my book.
It took another hour for them to shower and fill out model releases and for me to check IDs to make sure the girls were legal and fill out the required proof-of-age forms (Alena was just 14 months past her 18th birthday and could be mistaken for a 17-year-old by an overzealous customs inspector, so I prefer to document everything).
PHOTO SHOOTS
From the moment the girls walked in, I had Anton film everything, for "Behind the Scenes" footage like you often see on porn DVDs. Other than when they were in the bathroom, there was little time when there wasn't a camera pointing at the girls as they undressed, tried on outfits, and put on makeup.
We started with some photos of the girls striking sexy poses and spreading their legs and then proceeded to some shots of the two girls kissing. The still photos are different than video, since they need to be posed. For example, the girls would move their lips close together and then stick out their tongues for a hot kissing shot, but then they would hold that pose for a few seconds before proceeding to the next pose. They weren't, in fact, kissing.
I then joined in, and Anton took pictures of the two-girl blowjob. Again, it was a bit awkward, since the girls would stop and strike a pose with my dick in their mouth, rather than pumping away.
Tanya then got on all fours on the bed, and Alena reached around and open her pussy for easy entry. Alena slathered spit all over my dick for some lube before I stuck my Dick into Tanya. I had to hold the pose with my dick halfway inside Tanya while Anton took some photos, but it wasn't as bad as it sounds. Every so often, I would pump a few strokes inside Tanya to stay hard, then we would continue shooting. Then Alena mounted me reverse cowgirl while Tanya licked her pussy. We switched and Tanya mounted me cowgirl while Alena sat on my face.
We tried stacking the girls (Tanya on top of Alena) so I could switch between fucking each one in missionary position, but it was a little uncomfortable for Alena, so we only held it long enough to get some pictures of me with my dick inside each girl.
We wrapped up with the girls 69-ing while I fucked Alena and Tanya licked my balls.
VIDEO SHOOT
Once the photos were done, we took a break for about 15 minutes, and got back into our clothes again. The video shoot went much more smoothly, since the girls were actually giving me a blowjob, and I was actually fucking them, rather than simply holding my dick inside them for a photo.
We repeated everything that we had taken still photos for. At the end, I fucked Alena doggy while she 69-ed Tanya, who was also licking my balls. After I creampied inside Alena, I told Anton to move around to get a good shot of the pull-out. It didn't disappoint. I hadn't cum for over a week to save up for this cum shot. When I pulled out, the cum came spewing out onto Tanya's neck. She leaned up and licked the remainder of my cum out of Alena's pussy for a beautiful finale.
When Alena got off Tanya, more cum came burbling out of her as she changed positions and squeezed her hips. Like a good porn actress, as soon as she realized what was happening, she immediately opened her legs and pointed her pussy toward the camera and the light. I'll never forget the scene of Alena smiling while she spread her legs and my cum was bubbling out of her.
I was well spent and satisfied, but the scene wasn't over yet. To thank Anton for his camera work, I had the girls give Anton a blowjob at the end and cum in their mouths.
That's it for the first night's report... stay tuned for more.
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Mixphoto shoot #1: Alena 584 + Tanya 596 - continued
Here are some more photos from shoot 1.
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Mixphoto shoot #1: Alena 584 + Tanya 596 - part 3
Here is the final set of photos from scene 1.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]That's depressing. Several times in the last few years I've walked home down Nevsky and nobody ever chatted me up for a last minute desperation score... :)
Had a great time in bars and clubs though, so I still enjoy St.Petes a lot... but absolutely agree (and have been saying for years) that there is not a good pick-up scene for pros. Thankfully the local devage is still quite e
My opinion of St. Petersburg:
- Streetgirls in Nevsky: True, they do exist around the "Ili" café on weekends around midnight. Not too many and price and service is average for the city.
- Salons: disregard the pictures... too photoshopped. Anyway it is pot-luck: there are sometimes better girls than on the website. Best time around 22:00PM. Most girls dont do bbbj.
- Pick-up bars: contrary of what it is being said in the forum there are pick-up girls in the classic places and not too difficult to locate if you have good looks (If you are a middle aged american with wal-mart chinos and sneakers they will ignore you as the have plenty potential customers to choose in summer). As they speak english they are expensive though! 5.000-6.000 rb -hour.
- freebies: No chance unless you speak good russian.
Conclussion:
Russian is mandatory at least in a basic level (mine): Almost nobody speaks other language than russian. Salons are very difficult to locate if you don't know the exact address. People is not too friendly with anglo-saxons. No problem with other western nationalities.
Prices around 2.500-4.000 rb in salons and 3.000-6.000 rb in the street or bars if english is spoken.
Salons are generaly cheaper and not bad quality for the price, but girls are less disposed to other thing than normal condom intercourse.
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Big thanks Shelbysbaker for share all this with us, you deserve all the fun you got !
May I ask you the total price of this dream ? :)
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Big thanks Shelbysbaker for share all this with us, you deserve all the fun you got !
May I ask you the total price of this dream ? :)[/QUOTE]Different people have defferent dreams and requirements. Afraid also I'm can not to give you one price for all. Medium price from 200$ to 400$ per scene. But if you need cameraman, boys for gangbang, more girls in scene- its other price.
I can't give you price because I not know what you want 8)
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[QUOTE=Waryman
My opinion of St. Petersburg:
- Streetgirls in Nevsky: True, they do exist around the "Ili" café on weekends around midnight. Not too many and price and service is average for the city.
- Salons: disregard the pictures... too photoshopped. Anyway it is pot-luck: there are sometimes better girls than on the website. Best time around 22:00PM. Most girls dont do bbbj.
- Pick-up bars: contrary of what it is being said in the forum there are pick-up girls in the classic places and not too difficult to locate if you have good looks (If you are a middle aged american with wal-mart chinos and sneakers they will ignore you as the have plenty potential customers to choose in summer). As they speak english they are expensive though! 5.000-6.000 rb -hour.
- freebies: No chance unless you speak good russian.
Conclussion:
Russian is mandatory at least in a basic level (mine): Almost nobody speaks other language than russian. Salons are very difficult to locate if you don't know the exact address. People is not too friendly with anglo-saxons. No problem with other western nationalities.
Prices around 2.500-4.000 rb in salons and 3.000-6.000 rb in the street or bars if english is spoken.
Salons are generaly cheaper and not bad quality for the price, but girls are less disposed to other thing than normal condom intercourse.[/QUOTE]Interesting information. But where is the Ili cafe?
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Anyone has tried erotic massage parlours in SPB?
Any recommendations or avoid warnings?
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[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]Different people have defferent dreams and requirements. Afraid also I'm can not to give you one price for all. Medium price from 200$ to 400$ per scene. But if you need cameraman, boys for gangbang, more girls in scene- its other price.
I can't give you price because I not know what you want 8)[/QUOTE]
Elena Exbi thanks for your answer, you are one of the two girls in the photos of Shelbysbaker (which one?) Or the person will arrange the meeting ?
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Elena Exbi thanks for your answer, you are one of the two girls in the photos of Shelbysbaker (which one?) Or the person will arrange the meeting ?[/QUOTE]No, I only models menager.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]Interesting information. But where is the Ili cafe?[/QUOTE]It is a fashionable café with a verandah located on the left sidewalk in Nevsky almost oppsite to Gostnii Dvor, not fat from the Armenian Church
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]Here is the final set of photos from scene 1.[/QUOTE]
What the hell? Did I miss a meeting?
What did you go and do - go to Russian Fantasy Porn Camp?
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[QUOTE=Jake993]What the hell? Did I miss a meeting?
What did you go and do - go to Russian Fantasy Porn Camp?[/QUOTE]I arranged a week of shooting with mixphoto.com. In 5 days, I fucked 7 Russian porn stars and caught it all on video/stills. Catalyst did the same thing in April 2007 and Sep 2006. You can look in the archives for his reports on how it works. I don't want to repeat his posts.
I have reports backed up about 4 more shoots, but I haven't had time to post them yet. Right now, I have to get ready for a gangbang in 4 hours. Sorry. I'll post more when I have time to recover.
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Mixphoto shoot #3 - Philipina 606 (Post 1 of 3)
ok guys. to those of you who are wondering "where's the report on shoot #2?": i'm posting these out of order, since shoot #2 was a 2-girl scene with a lot of action, and i haven't had time to complete the writeup.
in the meantime, here's the report on shoot 3:
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i didn't realize that fucking russian porn stars would be so much work. i slept in until 4:00 pm, and subsequently had to rush to get ready for the arrival of philipina 606 at 6:00 pm for my third scene.
she arrived a little tardy around 6:30, which is typical for mixphoto girls. since i was on vacation, i didn't mind. after all, what's a half hour, when you're fucking girls for an entire week?
philipina
philipina turned out to have the best attitude of the bunch so far. we had all kinds of equipment problems that extended the shoot to a almost 4 hours, but she didn't complain once and she took everything in stride. none of the hassles she put up with interfered with her geniune desire to please. my "real job" is managing people, and none of the people who work for me would have accepted the technical problems we had without complaining.
when she first walked in the apartment, she was absolutely freezing since she had just finished an outdoor scene in the forest, and it was cold and rainy outside. nevertheless, she had a bright, cheery attitude and was looking forward to the next scene. when i told her she would be wearing a schoolgirl uniform, she exclaimed "oh yeah! my favorite!" i wished that anton had been filming to catch her genuine excitement.
off to a good start
we started with an interview in the bedroom, where she told us her name and age, and slowly undressed. at the end of the interview, she was naked, and waved to the camera before departing to shower, insert pharmatex, and prepare for the scene. fortunately, the shower warmed her up from the cold she had just endured. this girl is not shy. she sat around the apartment naked while we explained the scene to her and prepared for the shoot.
we had selected the schoolgirl uniform, but we weren't sure which panties went with it better. i selected a bunch of panties and had her try on each one. we took pictures and video of her modeling each one before we selected a tiny set of white lace panties from hustler.com. they had a seam sewn down the middle to tighten them and enhance the "camel toe" effect. her pussy lips would peek out a little on each side, but as soon as she moved, the panties would ride up the middle, exposing a good amount of pussy lips on both sides.
at the beginning of the scene, however, she wasn't wearing panties... here's the explanation:
i played the part of a strict teacher, and philipina was a naughty schoolgirl whom i had to discipline. we started the photoshoot with her at my desk, while i scolded her for her lack of adherence to the school dress code, since she was obviously not wearing panties. (we ignored the fact that she was wearing 5" heels, thigh-high stockings, lace ankle socks, a loose-fitting crop top, no bra, and a micro-miniskirt -- not to mention the pharmatex that formed a mild white cream in her pussy.) she emphatically stated she did have panties, and then reached in and pulled them out of her pussy, where we had cleverly stashed them earlier. she then propped her high heels up on the desk, spread her legs, and pulled the panties out slowly, giving the camera a good view of her pussy and the panty extraction.
catastrophe #1
around this time, i moved over to take a picture of her pussy splayed open by the extraction of the panty, and i accidentally pulled one of the tripod-mounted strobe units over. it came crashing to the floor, destroying the light. we stopped and surveyed the damage while philipina sat there, pantiless, waiting for us to decide what to do next. after deciding that the strobe unit was a lost cause, we decided to use a the one remaining working unit. the whole fiasco took around 20 minutes.
after we re-configured everything, we started up the photoshoot again with a few toys. i figured if she'd already stuffed panties in her pussy, i might as well stuff other things in there. we used a glass dildo, some small metal balls on a string, and finally a set of five 1 1/2-inch-diameter balls on a string. after i stuffed three of the big balls in, it seemed that she was having difficulty accepting the fourth. i didn't want to hurt her with the big toys, so i kept asking her if it was ok. she was a real trooper. she just asked me to hold on a minute. once she got used to the big size, she kept saying, "ok... try the next one" until we got everything stuffed in. there was no complaining at all--just an eagerness to please me and satisfy any request to the fullest extent that she could. after we pulled those big balls out, we got some good gaping shots of her pussy.
i then moved to the bed, where philipina gave me a blowjob while she was on all fours on the floor. a true professional, she made sure that her skirt was hiked up and her legs were spread, so that the camera had a good rear shot of her pussy at all times. this made the shots of the blowjob much more interesting.
catastrophe #2
around this time, anton decided that a lamp in the corner of the room was distracting, so he went over to shut it off while still holding onto the camera that was tethered to the flash unit with a sync cable. you guessed it. the other flash unit came crashing to the ground--this time more dramatically, spewing glass shards all over the floor.
time for another break, while we reevaluated everything. both of the flash units were inoperative, so we decided to go with a camera-mounted strobe and small portable video light that i had brought as a backup. (all the photos after this point were taken with just the camera-mounted strobe. you'll see that the quality is vastly different from the earlier photos, and why i figured it was worth it to lug these big, heavy strobe units to st. petersburg.)
all these hassles were seemingly having no effect on philipina's mood, but it was sure taking its toll on me. when we restarted, it was time to start shooting the sex scenes, but i had a difficult time getting hard again. at this point, philipina took matters into her own hands (or mouth as the case may be); she cheerfully gave me a wet, sloppy blowjob to rectify the situation and get everything back on track again.
she then climbed on top of me cowgirl style and spread her butt while anton got some good shots from the rear. when anton moved around to her front, she had a rough time with her 5" heels out of the way, but she finally succeeded so she could lean back with her hands on my ankles, legs spread, and her feet on either side of my head for more great shots.
we tried reverse cowgirl and spooning before putting her in missionary position. she was wet by this point, so i was able to stick my dick into her and pull it out slowly so thin strands of her juices connected her pussy to my dick for some pretty memorable shots.
video shoot
since we were running so late by the time the photoshoot was over, we proceeded straight into the video shoot without a break. we started with philipina crawling into the room on all fours with her butt way up in the air and her pussy prominently displayed. anton first filmed her doing it from the front. then we had her go back again, and anton filmed the same thing from the rear.
we then repeated the photo shoot for the video: blowjob, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, spooning, and missionary. i pulled out and announced it was time for the cum shot -- remember, i had had my dick in and out of philipina for a couple of hours by now. but anton suddenly left the room. i don't know if he got a phone call or had intenstinal distress, or what. maybe he came in his pants. i didn't care, though. since philipina and i were sitting on the bed with nothing else better to do, i stuck my dick into her again and continued pumping her in missionary position until anton returned. when he did, i said "sorry... i couldn't help but fuck her." he playfully scolded me for taking liberties with the talent, and then we moved on to the cumshot.
since the cumshot would only be filming philipina's face, she asked if she could remove her super-high heeled shoes. apparently they had been killing her feet for the last hour, but she waited until she knew we wouldn't be filming her feet to politely ask if it was ok to take them off.
a sloppy finish
this was a tough scene for all involved, entirely due to the fact that anton and i were klutzes. so after more than 3 hours of futzing around with camera equipment and other issues, i was worried that at least the cumshot would show how much we had worn philipina down--but it was not the case. she slurped my cum eagerly like a sex-starved nympho. afterwards she laid back on the bed, spread her legs for plenty of cumshot photos, and waited there patiently with the cum dripping off her lips until we were done photographing her.
fortunately, st. petersburg has a good professional photo shops (possibly due to the porn industry), so it seems i'll have no problems getting replacement parts for my strobes. let's hope i'm back in action by tomorrow... there are more russian girls to fuck!
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Mixphoto shoot #3 - Philipina 606 (Post 2 of 3)
Here are some more photos
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Mixphoto shoot #3 - Philipina 606 (Post 2 of 3)
Ignore my last post.
I hit "Add Report" too soon. Here is batch 2 of 3
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Mixphoto shoot #3 - Philipina 606 (Post 3 of 3)
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Great report !!!
Nice job Shelbysbaker !!!! Alena looks fantasic! And, I find her even hotter in her normal clothes -- when she just arrived. Love that first pic! :)
Keep up the good work and keep sharing!
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Photo shoot
Hey Shelbysbaker
A lot of us are envious for sure, could tell us a bit about the cost of the shoot?
Thanks
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mixphoto pricing
[QUOTE=Manicure]Hey Shelbysbaker
A lot of us are envious for sure, could tell us a bit about the cost of the shoot?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Elena prefers that you contact her directly to request pricing details. Prices can vary widely from straight sex with an inexperienced porn star to a gangbang with anal and creampie with a top porn star. Depending on what you want, Elena can give you a price. You can either PM her (her ISG ID is "Elena Exbi"), or register at mixphoto.com and then send her an email message. I don't think I can post email addresses here.
Here's a link to Elena's response to another member who requested pricing information. You'll find it 14 or 15 posts down from this one:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=782054&postcount=1133[/url]
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Bravo!!!
[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I arranged a week of shooting with mixphoto.com. In 5 days, I fucked 7 Russian porn stars and caught it all on video/stills. [/QUOTE]
What a great idea. I'll bet it's an experience that you will not soon forget.
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Mixphoto shoot #4 - Julia 635 (Post 1 of 4)
ok guys, here's scene 4. i'm still working on the writeups for scenes 2, 5 and 6:
i figured mixphoto would give me an opportunity to do all the things i've always wanted to do, but never had a chance to. so for scene #4, i planned to photograph julia 635 shaving and peeing into the bathtub before our sex scene.
a rocky start
things didn't get started on the right foot when julia first walked in the door. she's a giggly, bubbly teenager, and she made a great initial impression. until she took one look at me and said "i only fuck teens. i don't fuck old guys. " (i'm 45). i had her call lena to decide if we should cancel the shoot. two minutes later, she returned and announced that everything was ok.
but i wasn't convinced that everything was ok. the last thing i wanted to do is get stuck with some girl who doesn't want to be there or doesn't want to do what she's doing. i've had my share of "ymmv" experiences, and i didn't want this to be one of them. so, to assure a good attitude, i got out my secret weapon: some hustler apparel that i had bought before my trip (blouses and crop tops with "hustler" and "barely legal" emblazoned on them) and a couple of "i love la" and "hollywood" blouses. (the shirts ran around $8-$15 each, which turned out to be an excellent investment). she loved the blouses. i told her that if she behaved herself, she could choose one of the items as a gift when she left.
her attitude changed immediately. not only was she was eager to please, during the rest of the shoot, she would ask every 15 minutes or so, "am i behaving myself? " just to be sure.
we started off with an interview on the couch, during which i undressed and groped her. then i had her dress in my sexy version of "bath" attire that you'll see in the attached photos, a thin, stretchy, lace dress and thigh-high white stockings, before moving to the bathroom.
bathroom
i had asked julia to not shave for a few days prior to the shoot, but all she could muster was a short stubble to shave off. nevertheless, we got some good shots of her stripping off her clothes and shaving herself. it might have been better if there were more hair to shave, but julia's eager-to-please attitude made up for it.
once she was done, we asked her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] into the tub. that's when we hit another snag. she claimed that elena never told her about the peeing scene. time for another phone call to lena. this time, lena was frustrated and exclaimed "she has a hole in her head! " julia was willing to do just about anything we asked, but she had a major inhibition with peeing on camera. (somehow, i don't understand how a girl doesn't mind me cumming all over her face on camera, but won't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on camera.) we had a scene later that day with katya 642, so lena offered that katya could do the peeing scene for me instead. i accepted that as a good compromise, and returned to the task at hand: fucking julia.
bedroom
in the bedroom, i first had julia strike several poses to show off her freshly shaven pussy. i then got out my favorite toy, a few metal balls connected with a string, and inserted them into her. the extraction made for some more good shots as her shaved pussy lips opened and closed around the metal balls. the lube and pharmatex made a slimy goo that dripped out of her pussy, which i found very photogenic.
we started our one-on-one sex with 69, and then progressed through cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. all the time, julia was asking if she was behaving herself. there's nothing better than a beautiful teenager who needs reassurance that she's behaving herself while you're sticking your dick into her. her performance was good enough at this point for me to forget the minor slip-up earlier with the peeing scene. the entire time, julia was well aware of the camera, and she struck up extra-sexy poses. i could see her frequently checking herself out in the full-length mirror next to the bed to make sure she looked good. i told her that she was an excellent poser, and she clearly appreciated the compliment.
we tried some missionary and doggy before i laid julia down on the bed and came in her mouth. immediately subsequent to this scene, she was going to a birthday party, so she asked me to be careful and not cum in her eyes or on her hair. for some reason, she thought it would not be appropriate to attend her friend's party with cum in her hair.
reward for good performance
julia performed very well, and she obviously had earned her t-shirt. once the scene was over, she tried them all on, but she couldn't choose between two shirts. i didn't like the look of her modeling with her bra on. especially the hustler shirts are specifically made of thin material so the nipples would show through--not an ugly bra strap. i told her she could take two shirts if she modeled them for us with her bra off and let us take pictures. again she was all smiles and practically tore her top and bra off to comply. the last three pictures are of her modeling her new attire. she chose the "barely legal" and "hustler" shirts.
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Mixphoto shoot #4 - Julia 635 (Post 2 of 4)
I had a hard time editing the photos for this scene down to a reasonable number, so I'm going to have to burden you with 35 photos instead of the usual 20-30 photos.
Apologies in advance.
Here are photos 11-20.
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Mixphoto shoot #4 - Julia 635 (Post 3 of 4)
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Mixphoto shoot #4 - Julia 635 (Post 4 of 4)
If you haven't gotten tired of looking at photos of Julia yet, here are photos 31-35, including her proudly showing off her new Hustler T-shirts:
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Hotel SPB
Hi all,
Can anyone give me any info at all about "Hotle spb" in St Petersburg.
Has anyone stayed there before?
Is there any working girls hanging around the Bars inside?
OR what's the procedure taking a girl into the hotel & on to your room?
Any info would be a great help Guys..
Cheers,
TB
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SB,
Great pix!!!
If you post them in the photo section, they won't disappear into the great stream of consciousness quite as quickly, and will be much easier to find later on.
Just a suggestion.
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]"I only fuck teens. I don't fuck old guys."[/QUOTE]
Fucking c*nt! Thanks for the warning. Julia 635 just got scrapped off my list!
Loso
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Mixphoto shoot #6 - Philipina 606 Gangbang
Here's the report on scene 6, the final gangbang. I'll get to scenes 2 and 5 when I have a chance. I'm following a suggestion made by Stravinsky, so look in the Photo Gallery thread for the associated photos.
Here are the links to the photo postings:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=785488&postcount=1383[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=785490&postcount=1384[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=785491&postcount=1385[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=785492&postcount=1386[/url]
For the grand finale, I had scheduled a 4-boy, 1-girl gangbang with Veronika 657. Unfortunately, the day before our gangbang a friend of Veronika's saw her video on the Internet, and she decided to quit porn immediately. To protect the girls' privacy, most commercial productions made with Russian porn stars are prohibited from distribution inside Russia, but the Internet is so ubiquitous, I think it will prove hard to entirely prevent these videos from being seen inside the country.
When I searched the net for videos of Veronika, I easily located tens of videos including this one: [url]http://www.norestfortheass.com/tgp/3x1-gianna/V01/galleries.php?id=140&ccbill_referer=935524[/url] , where she is pummeled in all three holes by three guys. For Veronika to stop now is sort of like putting on a condom the second time you fuck your girlfriend, after hundreds of your little swimmers are already working their way past her cervix--the cat's already out of the bag.
Elena suggested three alternates for the gangbang, but none of them were exactly my type. Then I remembered how great Philipina 606 was a couple of days ago. Nothing phased her, and she was eager to please--exactly the type of girl I wanted in a gangbang. A quick call to Elena, and everything was arranged.
GETTING STARTED
As is common with most shootings, the boys showed up first, and Philipina was late, but the boys came prepared. They had laptops and portable DVD players to pass the time while we waited for the star to show up. Alexei was around my height at 5'7" or 5'8", but Kostya and his brother Michael were big--6' or more. At 5'7" and less than 110 lbs, Philipina was going to be dwarfed by all these big guys. This was just the gangbang scene I was hoping to set up.
Philipina arrived cheerful and laughing, brightening the room with her bubbly personality. Soon, 4 guys and 1 girl were showering, changing, and preparing for the shoot; there was a mass of naked bodies milling back and forth between the kitchen and adjoining bathroom. Anton got good backstage video of Philipina changing in the bathroom while the guys were showering. She then came out wrapped in just a towel to fill out the model releases and check paperwork.
While we were waiting for the boys to get ready, I showed Philipina the review and photos of her in her schoolgirl outfit that I had posted on ISG the previous day. She loved the pictures! She asked me right away for the URL so she and her boyfriend could look at the posts. She was disappointed when she found out she had to pay to see the pictures, but I promised to burn a DVD for her after the shoot, so she could have all of them.
She asked why I didn't use her current stage name, Sabrina Redhart. She is on a few webcam sites under that name, and would have preferred the publicity. I explained that her name is "Philipina 606" on mixphoto.com, so I wanted to use the name by which others would recognize her. So here's my plug: If you want to see more of her, google Sabrina Redhart.
THE SHOOT
We first had Philipina dress in her street clothes again so I could interview her on video, undress her, and grope her a little bit before the scene started.
The scene started with her in a short pink dress, and calf high socks. The script was for her to undress, don a shorty night gown, and then four guys would break into her bedroom and have their way with her. Once the four guys broke in, I was hoping to photograph a look of surprise on Philipina's face, but she was having such a good time in the gangbang, you'll see most of the photos show her smiling widely and clearly enjoying having four cocks thrust at her from all directions.
We started with the three guys holding her down and sticking their dicks in her mouth while I fucked her missionary style. We then moved around to cowgirl, and finally doggy. All the time, Philipina was showing expert skill in simultaneously manipulating 3 cocks while never forgetting to slide up and down on my cock.
Since I was the director, I took the liberty of cumming inside Philipina first. I creampied her in doggy and then waited for Anton to come around and photograph the pull out. When he was ready, I slowly withdrew and cum came burbling out of her onto the bed. Just when I thought it was over, Michael reached around, placed one hand on her lower stomach and another on her lower back, and squeezed.
That was good enough to push another few globs of come out of her. He then grabbed her butt cheeks and alternatively pulled and pressed, causing her pussy lips open and then rub together squeezing the cum between the lips. Obviously, these guys were experienced in what to do to make it look good for the camera!
After the creampie, we all took a break, which helped give me time to recover. Since I had already cum inside Philipina, I let the other three guys have their way with her. They switched her back and forth so fast, it was hard to keep track of whose cock was where.
They alternated between doggy, spooning, and a position I don't know the name of: the girl lying on her back with both legs in the air, and the boy on his side, with his body perpendicular to hers, facing her. This makes for some good pictures from a high camera angle.
We then ended up with her on her back while four guys came in her face. The cumshot was spectacular, most of it entered her mouth, which she then pushed out, so it dripped down her chin and all over her chest. There was one hazard of a gangbang: While Kostya was jacking off in her face, a drop of his cum came flying up, missed my face, and landed on my chest. It's the first time I came in so close contact with another guy's cum, and I didn't care for it... Looking at Philipina literally drenched in cum, I guess I couldn't complain though.
After we were done, we had Philipina stay there so we could get final wrap-up cum shots. She hammed it up for the camera and gladly took all kinds of poses to show off the cum all over her body.
POST-SHOOTING
One of the guys jumped into the shower right after we were done filming, so Philipina had to wait her turn. She sat around the kitchen with her face and tits bathed in cum, while big white globs were slowly sliding down her body, casually smoking a cigarette, conversing with the other guys and waiting for the shower... a sight to behold! I ran for my camera, but by the time I returned, it was too late, and she was already in the shower.
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Shelbysbaker
Nice job on the pics and documentation.
Must have been one hell of a fun week.
Interesting comment by Julia regarding fucking old guys.
She is nowhere near a stunner, by Russian standards she would be lucky to get a 5 out of 10 on the rating scale. In a few short years she Will be paying the old guys to fuck her.
IMHO
Well done
Guido88
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Effect of stock market chaos?
Hi folks,
First time poster here.
I'm a longtime hobbyest (ie mongerer) from Toronto (you can find my posting history at [url]www.terb.ca[/url] ) and I'm making my first visit to Russia soon.
I'm feverishly working on my Rosetta Stone Russian, and looking forward to the trip.
I wonder if anyone thinks that the recent financial freefall througout the world will have any effect on the number of visitors, (and perhaps the prices?). I know that the Russian Stock Market's have in fact been shut down for the last couple of days. And while I understand that most Russians don't play the market, I reckon that many more upmarket and urban Russians might be hurting financially from what has happened.
In any event, I look forward to providing a trip report in November.
Regards,
fijimanl
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[QUOTE=Fijiman]Hi folks,
First time poster here.
I'm a longtime hobbyest (ie mongerer) from Toronto (you can find my posting history at [url]www.terb.ca[/url] ) and I'm making my first visit to Russia soon.
I'm feverishly working on my Rosetta Stone Russian, and looking forward to the trip.
I wonder if anyone thinks that the recent financial freefall througout the world will have any effect on the number of visitors, (and perhaps the prices?). I know that the Russian Stock Market's have in fact been shut down for the last couple of days. And while I understand that most Russians don't play the market, I reckon that many more upmarket and urban Russians might be hurting financially from what has happened.
In any event, I look forward to providing a trip report in November.
Regards,
fijimanl[/QUOTE]The falling market prices will have no effect on prices in Moscow short- to middle-term.
Only a long-term crisis would have that affect.
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Mixphoto shoot #2 - Masha 633 & Sasha 652
i have gotten several pms reminding me that i haven't posted the reports on shoots #2 and 4 yet. unfortunately, i have to do real work in between porn shoots so that i can afford to fly to russia and fuck all those porn stars :-).
here's the report on shoot #2, the threesome with masha 633 and sasha 652. you can find the photos in the photo gallery. here are the links:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=792472&postcount=1390[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=792473&postcount=1391[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=792475&postcount=1392[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=792477&postcount=1393[/url]
i am normally not a fan of big tits, since i don't like saggy tits at all. but masha's have to be the best tits on the planet. not only are they large, they are perky and certainly defy gravity. (maybe she grew up in the zero-g environment on the secret russian space station.)
sasha comes across as a petite, shy teenager (she's 19). my first impression was that she was very beautiful, but perhaps a bit shy. it turns out she's not shy at all (more later).
since chill bill posted that he really liked my photos of the girls in regular clothes as well as "porn clothes", i decided to do a little more shooting of them with their regular clothes on. we started each shoot by interviewing the girl in the living room wearing the clothes that she was wearing when she came in off the street. i would ask her what she did, how old she was, etc. then i would slowly undress her and grope her a little bit until she was naked. she would then leave the room to go insert pharmatex, take a shower, and get ready for the shoot while we moved the lights from the living room to the bedroom for the hardcore part of the shoot.
we started with sasha, who was dressed rather conservatively in blue jeans and a short green sweater with an exposed midriff. during the interview, i asked her what she did. my first impression about her being shy was totally wrong. she's a secretary by day and a stripper by night! i had her slowly undress while she answered the questions, and then give us some peeks by pulling her panties to the side and a few other "stripper" moves.
masha was also conservatively dressed in pants and a long-sleeved blouse, but before the interview she unbuttoned all the buttons on the blouse to draw attention to her ample cleavage. as before, i had her undress and i made sure to grope her a little before sending her off naked to the shower/bathroom.
the girls dressed in white stockings, high heels, crotchless panties, and some lace short skirt/top combos that i got from trashy lingerie in hollywood. anton got some great footage of the girls trying on the outfits and posing in front of the mirror. as before, we did a full photo set, and then we dressed again and did the full scene again for video. i'll just cover the video part, since it's the same script.
the high heels i got for the girls were very high (i think the heels on sasha's shoes were 5"), and i loved the way she walked in them, so i didn't just want video of her on the bed with her heels pointing toward the ceiling all the time. so we started with the two girls walking in from the living room into the bedroom. they then kissed and made out with each other in front of the mirror before they moved to the bed.
i joined them on the bed and they started with a 2-girl blowjob, passing my dick between them. sasha did plenty of the sucking, but masha used her hands too much and hardly used her mouth. while sasha was sucking my dick, she spent most of the time posing and fondling her tits for the camera. it looked good on the video, but was not as good as a true 2-girl blowjob like i had the previous day.
sasha then got on top and we 69-ed for a while while masha helped out by fondling sasha's tits, helping me suck her pussy, or helping sasha suck my cock. masha then mounted me cowgirl while sasha helped by either fondling masha or french kissing me.
i turned around so sasha could mount me reverse cowgirl while masha licked my balls and sasha's pussy. i normally don't like tatoos, but sasha's tatoo of a rose and a butterfly just above her pussy looked really good on the video while her clean-shaven pussy was bouncing up and down on my dick. i asked masha to do some pussy-to-mouth, which she did a little reluctantly. before taking the my dick in her mouth, she would vigorously rub my dick to get all the pharmetex off. since i didn't like such vigorous treatment, we finally settled on stopping the video briefly for me to wipe the pharmatex off before she put my dick in her mouth.
masha then mounted me cowgirl while sasha sat on my face, facing masha so the two girls could kiss. we wrapped up with me fucking sasha again in missionary position while masha alternatively sucked my dick or licked my balls. sasha is a great kisser, and kissed me passionately while i was fucking her. this didn't look so good on camera, since i was completely covering her while i was kissing her, but i was having a great time, so i didn't care :-).
the scene ended with cum swapping and both girls rendered an excellent performance. i had them lie down and came in sasha's mouth. she then spit it in masha's mouth and the made a great show of sucking her fingers clean while my cum spilled off masha's mouth and onto her tits.
like before, i had the girls suck off the camera man to thank him for doing a good job. sasha was happy to do it; after she had swapped my cum with masha, she looked straight at the camera and said "we want some more" with a smile on her face and cum on her lips. masha wasn't so enthusiastic. they finally did it, but sasha did most of the sucking, while masha used more of her hands. finally, anton came all over sasha's face. masha came around at the end and she kissed sasha and helped suck some of anton's cum off her face.
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Russian Customs
I got back from SPB yesterday, and things didn’t exactly go smoothly...
During the security check at Pulkovo airport, they asked to open my luggage. They looked everywhere and discovered a bag full of DV tapes, inscribed “Oxana – 20/9/2008”... They found padded handcuffs and other sex toys. Conclusion: Suspected pornographer.
The customs officers made me switch my laptop on, so they could view the back-up DVDs with my pictures. Porn! :eek: They made me put a battery in my video recorder, so they could watch my tapes. Porn! :eek: The inevitable question: “How old this girl?”
Luckily, all the girls signed model release forms and provided proof of age. Making porn is legal in Russia, as long as it’s private and all participants are 18+. I was detained for some time, but they eventually let me go. But without the proper documentation, I would have been in [u]big, big trouble[/u]!
[b]Beware of Russian customs![/b]
Loso
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Mixphoto shoot #5 - Katya 642
here's the report of shoot #5. you can find accompanying photos in the photo gallery.
here are the links to the photo galleries:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=795128&postcount=1401[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=795130&postcount=1402[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=795132&postcount=1403[/url]
shoot #5 was the most challenging to set up. i had originally scheduled julia 619 for the shoot, but she became ill at the last minute. elena rescheduled everything for me, but i made major screw-up by accidentally sending her a request for shoots incorrect dates. fortunately, lena scrambled to correct my mistake once it was discovered and she arranged for katya 642 to replace julia 619. although katya wasn't on my original list, lena highly recommended her.
since the previous girl (julia 635) wouldn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in the bathtub for us, lena had asked katya to do this for us as a favor to her. as soon as katya came in and we started going over the script, it became obvious that the word "no" is not in her vocabulary. she agreed with anything we proposed. would she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on camera? "yes" would she give the camera man a blowjob at the end of the shoot and let him splatter cum on her face? "yes". i had heard that fucking a girl in the pussy while she has a vibrator in her ass feels really good. would she let me creampie her while she had a vibrator in her ass? "yes." i was already beginning to like this girl!
as before, we started with an interview during which katya removed her dress and then her underwear while i fondled her ass or her breasts and commented on how much i would like to fuck her later. once she was naked, she threw her dress back on (but no underwear) while we lugged all the equipment to the bathroom for the peeing scene.
she entered the bathroom, smiled, and then removed her dress with a sexy smile. and then she leaned back against the back of the tub, squatted, spread her legs... and ... nothing. it's one thing to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in a bathroom. it's another thing to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] when there are two hot 300-watt lights and a camera pointed at your crotch, and two guys staring at you :-). she said "i need concentration..." she had never peed on camera before, and it took about 30 seconds for her to relax and start peeing. then, close to the end, she reached down quickly and spread her pussy as the final few drops were coming out. this is the sign of a professional porn actress: when she realized that a camera is focused on her pussy, her reaction was to reach down and spread for the camera! (had she done this before, she probably would have spread sooner.) she giggled, aplogozied, and said "i need to drink more juice", but we got some great footage anyway.
katya was my next-to-last girl, so i had several outfits left over, and i wanted to make sure to choose the sexiest for her. we had her try a pink minidress, a beige translucent teddy, pink short-shorts and tight blouse, and finally a red mini skirt/blouse combo. she said the tiny red miniskirt and blouse "makes me look like a prostitute," and she preferred the pink outfit. however, anton and i agreed that the red miniskirt looked sexiest so we decided to go with that. during all the outfit changes, we anton had the camera rolling the entire time, so we have video of her getting dressed and undressed for each outfit, as well as modeling each of them.
anton felt the bedroom was getting boring as a backdrop and suggested we move the action to the living room for this scene. since she had 6-inch "come-fuck-me" stripper shoes on (part of the outfit that she said made her "look like a prostitute"), we started the scene by having her go to the far end of the apartment and walk into the living room. anton kept the camera angle low so we could see katya's ass and panties up her skirt while she walked. i really liked the video. next time, i think i might rent an apartment with a loft so i can get some shots of the girls walking up the stairs :-).
katya started by kneeling in front of me on the couch to give me a blowjob. then we moved to a 69-position with katya on top. when anton had enough footage, he suggested it was time to move to reverse cowgirl.
katya was ready. i was ready. anton was ready. but little willie wasn't "up" to standing at attention anymore. katya was the 7th porn actress i had fucked in 4 days. furthermore, with the shooting, you have to keep it up for an hour or two while all the photo and video work is being done, and little willie had had enough. :-). having two people staring at me waiting for me to get it up so they could continue wasn't helping.
fortunately, everyone had a great attitude about it. nobody complained that the director's little friend was holding everything up (or "down" as the case may be). we took about a 15-minute break, which was enough for the smokers to have a cigarette and for little willie to get his strength back. :-)
after the break, katya had no problem getting willie to rise to the occasion with an expert blowjob. we continued with reverse cowgirl. then i had katya get on all fours while i stuck a small vibrator in her ass.
the stories i heard were true! if you've never fucked a girl who has a vibrator in her ass, you have to try it. her velvety pussy caresses you with the mild tickling of the vibrations that are propagating through her crotch. the harder you thrust, the more you feel the vibrations. i couldn't take it anymore and came inside of her. after i pulled out katya turned around on the couch and spread her legs facing the camera while the creampie dripped out onto the floor. without missing a beat, anton then handed me the camera and i started shooting katya giving him a blowjob while her pussy was still dripping my cum onto the floor and couch. (hopefully the apartment owner won't complain too much about the cum stains!)
it was a great scene and katya had a great attitude through all the ups... and downs :-) of it.
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Mixphoto summary
in the end, i had a great time in st. petersburg. i learned that you need to be flexible and not locked into a particular girl or a particular time, but that's part of mongering anyway, isn't it? i'm going to have many memories reinforced by great photos and videos, so i'm happy i went through the hassle of bringing 70kg of camera equipment and hiring a photographer.
i've worked with "normal" models in a professional capacity before (although unfortunately all my models were clothed). sometimes, models can be hard to work with. but other than a minor snafu with julia 635 when she didn't want to "fuck an old guy" or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on camera, all lena's models were a pleasure to work with (even julia was a pleasure after i promised her the "hustler" blouses).
i do like to aspire to professional quality, and although my pictures and video are still decidedly amateur, they're getting better. i think i'll hire a makeup artist next time to improve the results even more. and you can be assured that there will be many more "next times."
when all was complete, lena came by to collect her commissions and bring some paperwork by. she's an ex-model herself who started this business eight years ago. i didn't know what to expect until a beautiful blond walked through the door.
she visited with us for a while, and it became obvious that she loves her work. talking about the models and experiences was lighthearted and entertaining. she certainly did a great job dealing with problems caused by both me and the girls--like girls suddenly retiring at the last minute or getting ill, and my making a mistake on the dates. she even helped us do things like locate photo shops to secure parts for the strobe units or find sex shops to purchase an "anal vibrator" for my shoot with katya 642.
sabrina redheart (philipina) was still there after our gangbang scene, so the three of us huddled around the computer to look at photos and videos. it felt a little unusual to be with 2 beautiful women, looking at pictures of me fucking one of them and her getting splattered with cum. it's certainly a different environment, but one i could easily get used to!
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Ymmv
[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]But I wasn't convinced that everything was OK. The last thing I wanted to do is get stuck with some girl who doesn't want to be there or doesn't want to do what she's doing. I've had my share of "YMMV" experiences, and I didn't want this to be one of them. So, to assure a good attitude, I got out my secret weapon: some Hustler apparel that I had bought before my trip (blouses and crop tops with "Hustler" and "Barely Legal" emblazoned on them) and a couple of "I Love LA" and "Hollywood" blouses. (The shirts ran around $8-$15 each, which turned out to be an excellent investment). She loved the blouses. I told her that if she behaved herself, she could choose one of the items as a gift when she left.
Her attitude changed immediately. Not only was she was eager to please, during the rest of the shoot, she would ask every 15 minutes or so, "Am I behaving myself? " just to be sure....
Reward for Good Performance
Julia performed very well, and she obviously had earned her T-shirt..... Again she was all smiles and practically tore her top and bra off to comply. The last three pictures are of her modeling her new attire. She chose the "Barely Legal" and "Hustler" shirts.[/QUOTE]
Actually Shelby, of all this long saga, documented as it is with photographic evidence, this little vignette is the hardest to believe - that a girl would change her attitude, and get so motivated by a trivial little thing like a slutty t-shirt! I don't get it, but obviously you do!
It does demonstrate that getting the most out of girls is not all about money, but by understanding what motivates and rewards the girls. I still have a lot to learn.
For my money, I like your agent Lena better than any of the girls you shot with. Did you ask about having her for grand finale?
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Lena & Girls' Motivation
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Actually Shelby, of all this long saga, documented as it is with photographic evidence, this little vignette is the hardest to believe - that a girl would change her attitude, and get so motivated by a trivial little thing like a slutty t-shirt! I don't get it, but obviously you do!
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It was actually a suggestion from Guido88 to bring small gifts for the girls, so I have to give him credit. The recommendation was spot on. Now that I'm a little more tuned into it, I notice that many mongers on the forum mention that they give gifts to the girls, and it makes a big difference.
There's a current discussion in the "Dating Russian Women" thread that indicates "I have a gift for you in my apartment" is a good excuse to lure them there in the first place :-).
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]It does demonstrate that getting the most out of girls is not all about money, but by understanding what motivates and rewards the girls. I still have a lot to learn.
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Regarding motivation, I don't remember where I heard this, but someone once told me that "Excuse me, may I buy you a drink" wasn't the most effective pickup line he had used.
"Excuse me, may I buy you a car" worked much better :-).
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]For my money, I like your agent Lena better than any of the girls you shot with. Did you ask about having her for grand finale?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, Lena is only a model manager these days. She no longer works, and believe me, plenty of people have asked :-).
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]It was actually a suggestion from Guido88 to bring small gifts for the girls, so I have to give him credit. The recommendation was spot on. Now that I'm a little more tuned into it, I notice that many mongers on the forum mention that they give gifts to the girls, and it makes a big difference.
There's a current discussion in the "Dating Russian Women" thread that indicates "I have a gift for you in my apartment" is a good excuse to lure them there in the first place :-).
Regarding motivation, I don't remember where I heard this, but someone once told me that "Excuse me, may I buy you a drink" wasn't the most effective pickup line he had used.
"Excuse me, may I buy you a car" worked much better :-).
Unfortunately, Lena is only a model manager these days. She no longer works, and believe me, plenty of people have asked :-).[/QUOTE]
Actually I think Shelby proved that the female brain must be no larger than the size of a pea at best.
What’s in the rest of the empty space…….
Truly amazing
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Loso69]I got back from SPB yesterday, and things didn’t exactly go smoothly...
During the security check at Pulkovo airport, they asked to open my luggage.[/QUOTE]
Wow! I guess you were departing from Pulkovo and they were x-raying your bags prior to checkin? The handcuffs probably tipped them off.
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Puklovo Airport
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Wow! I guess you were departing from Pulkovo and they were x-raying your bags prior to checkin? The handcuffs probably tipped them off.[/QUOTE]
I guess it's just the luck of the draw. I had two big strobe units in my luggage. Each unit has tightly would wires and high-voltage tubes that I'm sure look suspicious on X-rays. I thought for sure someone would ask to inspect the bags, but I just breezed right on through. Loso69 wasn't so lucky.
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Guide? Local?
I'm heading to St.Pete's for 11 days next week for my first Russia trip. I've been doing my homework, studying the language, and surfing all sorts of sites.
In a few posts here (from several years ago) posters mentioned locals guys/guides who would help to avoid pitfalls/tourist traps/line up local talent.
If anyone has any recommendations, please let me know. I'm in my late 30s, have game, and respect people (even if I'm paying them!).
On a similar note, what is the 420 scene like in St.Pete's? (feel free to PM) Obviously I don't want to bring my own. But I also don't want to be roaming around the wrong neighbourhood, asking the wrong questions in halting Russian.
Regards
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]I guess it's just the luck of the draw. I had two big strobe units in my luggage. Each unit has tightly would wires and high-voltage tubes that I'm sure look suspicious on X-rays. I thought for sure someone would ask to inspect the bags, but I just breezed right on through. Loso69 wasn't so lucky.[/QUOTE]I think I mentioned it before, but on a recent trip I ended having to surrender my handcuffs to the militia (police) at the security check at Pukovo 1. It was quite a discusssion and the only way to escape was to give the chubby tird my police issue cuffs. Bummer, they were cool.
In retrospect, I should have known they'd light up like a Christmas tree though... the security guy running the x-ray told me to wait and specifically told the militia guy that I had handcuffs, which are apparently illegal to own in Russia unless you are in the police or military.
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Fijiman
The Piter P4P scene is well documented in the forum. If you plan to do salons look up GanJim’s posts. You should work the clubs for freebies.
As to the 420 scene, you would be best to stay away from it. Who needs bud when you have the best pussy in the world?
The general feeling in Russia equates cannabis with heroin.
If you must, you will find it in some of the youth oriented clubs or near the train station on the Nevsky. I have gotten rides from gypsy cabs where the driver was indulging.
Be prepared for shitty smoke and have a large bribe ready for the militia. $$$$$
Seriously stay away from it. Russia is nowhere near as forgiving as your hometown.
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Guido88]Fijiman
As to the 420 scene, you would be best to stay away from it. Who needs bud when you have the best pussy in the world?
The general feeling in Russia equates cannabis with heroin.
[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go so far as to equate it with heroin in terms of image socially, actually bud is very popular among Russian youth and the noveau riche.
Nonetheless Guido is right, if you go around asking for it you are asking for trouble. If you meet some young people who "look the part" and with whom you can communicate, you may ask them.. but I certainly wouldn't recommend just asking around. Don't forget, you don't know anyone there.
If the militia catches you with some or asking for some, you're fucked.
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Ok, got it. No 420 for me. Thanks for the cautions.
I think I'm just very spoilt by living in Canada. Pretty relaxed here.
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Erotic massage
Fellow mongers,
Will be in St. Petersburg next week. Due to a lack of time I will not go hunting but I am very interested in visiting a nice club for erotic massage (with a happy end). Any ideas are welcome.
Thanks in advance!
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[QUOTE=GandJim]You can also just have a look at the Google Map of St-Pete salons if you're interested only in a couple of salons.[/QUOTE]GJ, exactly how does one get to this map, anyway?
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]GJ, exactly how does one get to this map, anyway?[/QUOTE]
Sorry GJ if I am taking the liberty to respond for you.
Here is a link to GandJim's post with the Google Earth .kml file. I have found this very helpful for orienting myself.
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SSB,
Thanks, anyone with info is welcome to respond. And the link would be....where???
BTW - did you stay in an hotel or apartment when you were in Piter?
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]SSB,
Thanks, anyone with info is welcome to respond. And the link would be....where???
BTW - did you stay in an hotel or apartment when you were in Piter?[/QUOTE]
Sorry I'm such a computard. GandJim posted the link a couple of months ago. Here it is:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=766145&postcount=1105[/url]
I stayed in one of Oksana's apartments ([url]www.oksanas.net[/url]). She's very helpful and she did a great job arranging everything, including the visa invitation.
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Hotel vs. Apartment
[QUOTE=Stravinsky]SSB,
Thanks, anyone with info is welcome to respond. And the link would be....where???
BTW - did you stay in an hotel or apartment when you were in Piter?[/QUOTE]Whereas I almost always stay in apartments in Moscow or Kiev, in Piter I often stay in hotels. In the winter they are fairly cheap (forget the summer) and every one I have been to has been girl-friendly. You can find very good places for around 120 euros if you shop around. Apartments are still better if you are staying for more than 2-3 days, but for short stays hotels are a solid option.
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Doc,
Thanks for the advice. Any hotels you prefer over the rest?
SSB,
My, my, my, Ksyushinka is a real cutie. I don't suppose.... nah, probably not. :)
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Doc,
Thanks for the advice. Any hotels you prefer over the rest?
SSB,
My, my, my, Ksyushinka is a real cutie. I don't suppose.... nah, probably not. :)[/QUOTE]Location, location, location.
I prefer to pay an extra couple bucks for good location and room quality.
If price is no object I like the Kempinski Moika 22, but it is pricey.
A good bargain is the Helevetia Suites.
Use various internet portals to shop prices, bargains are to be found.
IMO always look for something on Nevsky or one of the sidestreets not far from Nevsky.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Doc,
Thanks for the advice. Any hotels you prefer over the rest?
SSB,
My, my, my, Ksyushinka is a real cutie. I don't suppose.... nah, probably not. :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah she was cute. But the picture on her website was taken in 1971.... Just kidding :-).
I never met Oksana, but one of her assistants is a petite blonde, around 165cm/45kg, maybe early 20s. She showed up in a short, pleated mini-skirt and high heels to deliver my passport. :-). Unfortunately, I was getting ready for a porn shoot, so I didn't have much time to do much else other than accept it and send her on her way.
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Strav
If you stay with Oksana get to know her husband Chuck.
He was an early pioneer of Piter mongering scene and posted hundreds of pictures on the other site.
Funny thing is his pics are what got many of us headed towards Russia.
Chuck is a good guy and will be helpful in many ways.
Oksana has oksanas.net and nevsky88.com for apartments. Personally I prefer apartments to hotels. Probably because I would rather use the apartment price savings towards more pussy.
Shelby
Oksana is a cutie. I’ve seen the naked pictures…..
Guido88
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Guido,
Thanks for the inside info. Too bad Ksyusha has been taken off the market :(
But it's good to know we haven't lost a dyevchonka, we've gained a tovarishch!
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Thank you guys!
I love this website so much information! I was just about to ask what hotels to stay. I have to agree appartments are the way to go. Thanks for the weblinks. Making my plans to travel to Russia next March. Gotta get my Visa. Can someone tell me how the invitation letter works?
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[QUOTE=Jose 911]Can someone tell me how the invitation letter works?[/QUOTE]What invitation letter??? :)
No need to write a letter. If you are working with a travel agent who specializes in travel to Russia (I assume you are), then they should be able to get a visa invitation for you. I notice Oksana claims that she can do visa invites as well, so if you rent one of her apartments, or maybe even if you don't, she should be able to do that also. For a fee, of course.
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[QUOTE=Jose 911]I love this website so much information! I was just about to ask what hotels to stay. I have to agree appartments are the way to go. Thanks for the weblinks. Making my plans to travel to Russia next March. Gotta get my Visa. Can someone tell me how the invitation letter works?[/QUOTE]You DO need an invitation AFAIK for tourist visa.
3 choices:
1) you book a hotel and they issue the invitation, sometimes called a voucher or sometimes called visa support. Usually free if hotel does it.
2) the person processing the visa for you (if you use a service) has one issued for you. For a fee of course.
3) Russian agency working with tourists issues you a voucher/invite. Some of the apartment agencies offer this, as Strav mentioned. Also for a fee... of course.
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[QUOTE=Jose 911]I love this website so much information! I was just about to ask what hotels to stay. I have to agree appartments are the way to go. Thanks for the weblinks. Making my plans to travel to Russia next March. Gotta get my Visa. Can someone tell me how the invitation letter works?[/QUOTE]Oksana gets you an invitation for tourist visa in a day.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]Oksana gets you an invitation for tourist visa in a day.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I've used her services and they are very good. She can also take care of your visa registration once you arrive in St-Pete (failing to do so can trigger tons of problems at the airport when you leave) and buy you a SIM card your mobile phone (absolutely necessary if you plan to visit salons). Some of her appartments have wi-fi connection, which can be very helpful.
Jim
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]GJ, exactly how does one get to this map, anyway?[/QUOTE]
In addition to the link Shelbysbaker provided for the TomTom and kml files, there is a Google Map [url=http://www.isaw-db.com/map_spb.html]here[/url]. Can be easier and more convenience for some.
Jim
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Thank you guys!
Stravinsky, Doctor Skank, Explorer69,
Thank you for your help. If I knew about this website from all my previous travels I would have saved a lot of time and money : ). I found this website when I travel to Ukraine and now making my plans to Russia. I see some of you guys been posting forever! Thanks for the help and advice. I will send Okansa and email and work on my visa. I may have to ask for strip joint information next.
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[QUOTE=Jose 911]Stravinsky, Doctor Skank, Explorer69,
Thank you for your help. If I knew about this website from all my previous travels I would have saved a lot of time and money : ). I found this website when I travel to Ukraine and now making my plans to Russia. I see some of you guys been posting forever! Thanks for the help and advice. I will send Okansa and email and work on my visa. I may have to ask for strip joint information next.[/QUOTE]If you have any specific questions please ask, we'l be glad to help. Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Jose 911]Stravinsky, Doctor Skank, Explorer69,
I may have to ask for strip joint information next.[/QUOTE]Read throught the SPB thread for the last 2-3 years there, you find a lot of information on strip clubs. But maybe somebody has more fresh information?
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Recent experiences
First of all I have to explain about my background: I am in St Peter for a short business trip, 3 days. So it is limited what to do, I have some business dinners in the evening and I have to get up early in the morning most days.
First night I called for one I had seen on internet:
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi26232.htm[/url]
She was the girl on the pictures, but I think her milage was longer. She told me she was 22, her website says 24, I would say closer to 30. She is quite professional, but she got an orgasm from DATY. For everything else, it was very professional.
She has a sexy girlfriend I would like to meet:
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi26197.htm[/url]
It has previously been discussed about girls on the street. Two evenings I was approached by girls on Nevsky Pr at the Fontanka bridge. One girl was with a very long milage, i would not even touch her. Then 2 girls spoke to me the following evening around 11 pm. In the end I took them to my apartment, 2 girls all night for USD 400.
To make a long story short: I wish I didn't!
I also spent one evening in a strip club: Playgirls:
[url]http://www.inyourpocket.com/russia/st_petersburg/by_night/adultentertainment/venue/32569-Playgirls.html[/url]
This is a small strip club, it costs 400 roubles to enter. But if you meet the lady standing on Nevsky making a commercial for the club, it will cost you 300.
I have been there before and took out a nice girl for a great fuck. This time I was just enjoying the show. The atmosphere is quite relaxed. Only few of the girls are for take out.
I was one evening in Magrib for about 30 minutes. I remember the good old days when this was a great place. Now it was a disaster, nothing interesting.
St Peter has really changed!
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If I understood good Magrib will be close from today for rebuilding,let's see how will be after, but I agree nothing really interesting there.
Marstall with no entry fee is a very good place just to take one drink and look to the so hot stip dancers, at least yesterday, then I left for rossi's where I took one that later told me saw me in Magrib, 3500 rubles,not bad and she was not nice too, but this is the price of sunday evening when you are the only one foreigner in the klub.
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]If I understood good Magrib will be close from today for rebuilding,let's see how will be after, but I agree nothing really interesting there.
Marstall with no entry fee is a very good place just to take one drink and look to the so hot stip dancers, at least yesterday, then I left for rossi's where I took one that later told me saw me in Magrib, 3500 rubles,not bad and she was not nice too, but this is the price of sunday evening when you are the only one foreigner in the klub.[/QUOTE]I will probably be back in SPB in 2-3 weeks. Is there now more to Marstall than hot dancers? And what/where is Rossi's? Any other advice about clubs to find girls? Now the salon are the best option, but I remember the "good old days" when you found everything in Marstall and/or Magrib. And I like the club situation where one can hang around with a drink and talk and look at the "goodies"
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[QUOTE=Explorer69].... And I like the club situation where one can hang around with a drink and talk and look at the "goodies"[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with you, actually Magrib I do not like so much, specially for the insane price of 200 euro one shot of the hardcore pro whom the only thing sure is forget to have a piece of GFE....
Marstall is not that bad, I go there every evening, just a beer, my friend yesterday took one for 3000 rubles, not bad.
Me? Finally after travelling as a fool for the russia I found something good ;) right now she went away, salon 1 hour 2.500 rubles + 500 rubles for the taxi to take me there, from salon to my flat with her for free with their driver that as usually checked if I am alone in the flat....she was 20yo a body so hoooooot, for 1000 rubles I got bbbj+anal and I only regret I did not take her for 2 hours, but ok tomorrow again another one....I took 3 photos of her included in the tip of 1000 rubles LOL.Once home I will post photos.
What is incredible to my mind, that in Piter a pro costs the SAME PRICES of the fucking Samara or Ufa but at least here you have everything close and big choice of restaurants and klubs...just if you want to ask me if to go to provincies worth it....I will write report of Tver,Samara and Piter when I will get boring at home, but really if I was stayed in Piter 1 month I am sure my holiday could be much much more successfull.....however big thanks to guido88 that suggested me to go to Piter....
Rossi's is 5 minutes walking from Magrib or 150 rubles with privat car, the problem of Rossi's is that on friday and saturday it is too much crowded.....inside you need 5 minutes to walk 20 metrs and the others days of the week nobody's there besides you and the barman....it is strange cause on monday you do not have the feeling you are in a city of 5 millions of inhabitants, cause almost every klubs is empty and in the weekend so much crowded of tons of russians drunk...
Too bad I have still moscow number telephone, I have to buy a piter one and to start to call some escort agency, so I can save 500 rubles for the taxi LOL and seriously, to have them delivered to my flat, cause if you do not find the right taxidriver you will end to salon with very ugly girls and with prices of 3500-4000 rubles (as it happened me 2 days ago when I slept alone...) cause I am sure the taxidriver get at least 1000 or more rubles, but I am lazy cause it is from 3 october I am in russia....
.....and still no tried sauna....shame on me :)....and neither strip klub, where I want to check if it is possible to take girl to my flat for reasonable price...cause besides mypro in Ufa I still do not get a real 9', even if I am looking for a 10' LOL
Explorer69 how much you paid the girl you took home from PG ??
P.S besides Magrib and Marstall I do not know other place, cause the Tribunal is so sad, no entrance cause I am sure if you had to pay entrance, it will be empty every day
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Marstall is not that bad, I go there every evening, just a beer, my friend yesterday took one for 3000 rubles, not bad.
Rossi's is 5 minutes walking from Magrib or 150 rubles with privat car, the problem of Rossi's is that on friday and saturday it is too much crowded.....inside you need 5 minutes to walk 20 metrs and the others days of the week nobody's there besides you and the barman
.....and still no tried sauna....shame on me :)....and neither strip klub, where I want to check if it is possible to take girl to my flat for reasonable price...cause besides mypro in Ufa I still do not get a real 9', even if I am looking for a 10' LOL
Explorer69 how much you paid the girl you took home from PG ??
P.S besides Magrib and Marstall I do not know other place, cause the Tribunal is so sad, no entrance cause I am sure if you had to pay entrance, it will be empty every day[/QUOTE]Are there many working girls in Marstall these days? Quality?
Is Rossi's a place with working girls? Since I am busy with work when I am in SPB, and are only for a couple of days I cannot go for freebies. Address of Rossi's?
In Playgirls I had to pay 6000 roubles to the club. Whatever is in addition to leaving the club is the up to you and the girl, and I guess they will ask different prices and it may dependent on you? This girl agreed on 8000 for her for all night and it was great: like a wild girlfriend. However, this was winter 2008 and prices increase in SPB. However, even if such sex is expensive you can have a VERY good time because these girls only go with you if they like you. And then the sex also is better. Strippers in these clubs make good money, so usually they are not in desperate need.
Golden Dolls are more expensive. Last time I heard. I was not there. That entrance is now 1000 roubles. There are many girls and some will go with you, some will not. I have never taken a girl from there, it is expensive. I asked last winter and it was then USD 1000 total (club + girl) for all night.
Agree, Tribunal is now terrible, a total waste!
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Be as you are, so long as you can.....
5:03 in Piter and.....I feel so good ;) try to guess why LOL
After the usual beer on Marstall, I went to Rossi's, there was a live rock band playing rock music...so I ate a steak and I left for strip bar play girls...there was a blonde so hooooooot...entrance should have been 200 rubles after 2:00am but the door dog man wanted me to pay 300, I said 200 or I go to golden dolls....he smiled and 200 was LOL
One coca cola 50 rubles LOL, a fat girl wanted me to buy drink, I said, surely...later...I enjoy the show and I left...total damage 250 rubles to make me drunk as a horny dog....neither viagra is so cheap....ah btw the blonde was busy with a man,but she will work on friday....trust me please, i will be there :)
I search for a taxi that took me to one salon, 2 nice blondes, but they were afraid to come to my flat....so another salon, bad girls....I told to driver, I give you 400 rubles instead 300 but let's check at least other 2 salons more....the next one had only one girl that was half sleeping but she has eyes blue as the ocean and so nice long legs I looked to her thinking if one hour could be enough to lick her from feet to klitoris LOL....
To make long short, she was 19yo, she did not want oral without condom, she said, I do not like....just few minutes of conversation and the truth was she always had a boyfriend that she told her she is not able to suck, so now she is shy to do it again...I told her....hey I will teach you as to make man mad kissing him pod pupok.....I never thought I teached a girl how to do a bj in russia...but this is russia....you can get crazy in fucking provincies where it should have been the paradise and in the city you neither consider to go, you have such a nice experience.....in few minutes she was licking my balls, first and my ass second and the funny thing she asked me thousands times...eto xorosho? Yes dear...davaj davaj, I thought, and I said....mozesh pazalsta escio raz,patamusta ty ochen molodets.... LOL.....I started to lick her and I think even in Vladivostok listen her voice....I am sure nobody licked her before me, cause I never seen such a reaction and such a girl to get so fast orgasm......I felt so good I had only to convince her for anal....she told she never tried before....I said her, ok here you have 2000 rubles...do you trust me ? Esli u tebja bude bolest tak konjets, mogu pazalsta ?
It is such a democratic state...it is enough to just ask in the right way and you get everything you want LOL....
She smiled and.....you cannot believe how my brother was hard thinking to be the first one to put my dick inside her ass.....using lubrificacni gel I bought in Prague LOL....I did something I will remember for long time......very slowly, no hurry, very gentle to make her like anal too and almost dearly as if she was my girlfriend.....ok it was not the wild anal sex as with mypro in Ufa with her asking more and more.....but if I needed 34 years to find one as mypro, it is hard a find a second one after 3 weeks.....at the end she asked me my phone number and asked me so many times why I am not married.....oh dear where I live women are so different from you.....be as you are so long as you can.....
Another night in Piter.....I love sex specially when the GFE is exactly as you would like to have with a pro but as very seldom you get.....
5:31... I smoke one marlboro that I am so sure it will taste as her pussy and I will sleep so good....
Do zavtra fellow friends.....
p.s I apologize for mistakes....but I am almost sleeping and dreaming about the girl I will get tomorrow night....
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]5:03 in Piter and. I feel so good try to guess why LOL
To make long short, she was 19yo, she did not want oral without condom, she said, I do not like. Just few minutes of conversation and the truth was she always had a boyfriend that she told her she is not able to suck, so now she is shy to do it again. I told her. Hey I will teach you as to make man mad kissing him pod pupok. I never thought I teached a girl how to do a BJ in russia. But this is russia. You can get crazy in fucking provincies where it should have been the paradise and in the city you neither consider to go, you have such a nice experience. In few minutes she was licking my balls, first and my ass second and the funny thing she asked me thousands times. Eto xorosho? Yes dear. Davaj davaj, I thought, and I said. Mozesh pazalsta escio raz, patamusta ty ochen molodets. LOL. I started to lick her and I think even in Vladivostok listen her voice. I am sure nobody licked her before me, cause I never seen such a reaction and such a girl to get so fast orgasm. I felt so good I had only to convince her for anal. She told she never tried before. I said her, ok here you have 2000 rubles. Do you trust me? Esli you tebja bude bolest tak konjets, mogu pazalsta?
It is such a democratic state. It is enough to just ask in the right way and you get everything you want LOL.
She smiled and. You cannot believe how my brother was hard thinking to be the first one to put my dick inside her ass. Using lubrificacni gel I bought in Prague LOL. I did something I will remember for long time. Very slowly, no hurry, very gentle to make her like anal too and almost dearly as if she was my girlfriend. Ok it was not the wild anal sex as with mypro in Ufa with her asking more and more. But if I needed 34 years to find one as mypro, it is hard a find a second one after 3 weeks. At the end she asked me my phone number and asked me so many times why I am not married. Oh dear where I live women are so different from you. Be as you are so long as you can.
Another night in Piter. I love sex specially when the GFE is exactly as you would like to have with a pro but as very seldom you get.
5:31. I smoke one marlboro that I am so sure it will taste as her pussy and I will sleep so good.
Do zavtra fellow friends.
P. S I apologize for mistakes. But I am almost sleeping and dreaming about the girl I will get tomorrow night. [/QUOTE]I congratulate you, that is exactlky how things can be at its best!
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[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]All this much pleasantly reads 8))
You are correctness. Erotic models get more than girls on night.
Beside me not escort agency, regrettably. I concern with only organization of the shoots.If you will be want to shoot beautifully girl in our sity, let me know.[/QUOTE]
She looks absolutely beautiful in those photos.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]Are there many working girls in Marstall these days? Quality?
Is Rossi's a place with working girls? Since I am busy with work when I am in SPB, and are only for a couple of days I cannot go for freebies. Address of Rossi's?
In Playgirls I had to pay 6000 roubles to the club. Whatever is in addition to leaving the club is the up to you and the girl, and I guess they will ask different prices and it may dependent on you? This girl agreed on 8000 for her for all night and it was great: like a wild girlfriend. However, this was winter 2008 and prices increase in SPB. However, even if such sex is expensive you can have a VERY good time because these girls only go with you if they like you. And then the sex also is better. Strippers in these clubs make good money, so usually they are not in desperate need.
Golden Dolls are more expensive. Last time I heard. I was not there. That entrance is now 1000 roubles. There are many girls and some will go with you, some will not. I have never taken a girl from there, it is expensive. I asked last winter and it was then USD 1000 total (club + girl) for all night.
Agree, Tribunal is now terrible, a total waste![/QUOTE]So you paid 8000 rubles to the girl and 6000 to the club, 14000 rubles = $560?
Not an accusation, just a question for reference...
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]So you paid 8000 rubles to the girl and 6000 to the club, 14000 rubles = $560?
Not an accusation, just a question for reference...[/QUOTE]Unfortunately you are right! It is above what I usually do, but if you spend some time in a strip club, get a few drinks, you end up sitting with this sexy hottie and you feel that communication is great, what to do? And I was right, it ended up in one of the best nights! But one also can have the same for free in other situations, but this particular night for 14000 roubles made me very happy. And I was never going for the cheapest as a goal per se, I rather prefer to go the way my dick pointed! And I don't spend a very long time in FSU cities, always just a few days when I am there, then I more easily can afford some higher prices.
By paying this in a strip club. Actually I think this is rather inexpensive for being in a strip club. One doesn't "destroy" the general market. The girls in SPB strip clubs make several thousand dollars a month and they don't need to fuck. Therefore rather few do and then my feeling is it is only if there "develops some relationship" that evening with a particular guy? But one girl in the shit club Gothica offered to fuck me for the night for 600 euros 2 years ago, I didn't accept. And in Golden Dolls it is 1000. But if you take out it is usually for the whole night. And some of these girls are very hot. You don't take a 6-7 out of a strip club!
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]By paying this in a strip club. Actually I think this is rather inexpensive for being in a strip club. One doesn't "destroy" the general market. And some of these girls are very hot. You don't take a 6-7 out of a strip club![/QUOTE]Like I said, it wasn't an accusation. I was just curious.
Seems pretty average strip club price, Moscow essentially the same... between $500-1000 all in.
It doesn't affect market prices at salons or elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Like I said, it wasn't an accusation. I was just curious.
Seems pretty average strip club price, Moscow essentially the same... between $500-1000 all in.
It doesn't affect market prices at salons or elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Strip club pussy is about the most expensive out there, whether you do it in the backroom or take out. The key advantage is that you get to partially sample the goods in advance (as opposed to a salon, HD/NF or tochka). Personally, if I'm into the girl, I'm affectionate, but not grabby... buy her a drink and see if she can hold a conversation (though not necessarily in that order)... then ask if she wants to meet "outside the club" sometime like a normal couple would for dinner, drinks and/or dancing. On more than one occasion, the girl suggested it herself. "Um, so do you like sushi? Because I do..." is a common line. Or she'll try to get you to take her to one of the most exclusive clubs in town - where she probably wouldn't have much chance if flying solo or with her girlfriends (bear in mind she might dump you once in the door - hasn't happened to me, but has to friends). In my experience, this pseudo-courtship can reduce the price of the act itself significantly, but you'll blow most of that savings in drinks, etc...
If you don't want to bother with that bullshit, you can usually avoid paying the house if you're willing to wait until she gets off shift (around 5am or 6am) and meet her at a predetermined place, like a 24 hr cafe, metro stop, etc.
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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]...
If you don't want to bother with that bullshit, you can usually avoid paying the house if you're willing to wait until she gets off shift (around 5am or 6am) and meet her at a predetermined place, like a 24 hr cafe, metro stop, etc.[/QUOTE]
Very good idea.....thanks !
P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Very good idea.....thanks !
P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...[/QUOTE]Well, prices increase, maybe because of the crisis:)! As I said, my experience was from last winter.
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Davai dogovorimsya!
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Very good idea.....thanks !
P.S. btw in the menu of PG there is written one hour girl out of klub 5.000rub....this evening to take a look to the blonde of 2 evenings ago, but I am afraid that an all night costs much more than 14.000rubles, specially considering that just far 200 metrs in golden dolls costs twice, 1.000$, and not sure if for all night or just till when you cum...[/QUOTE]
I've only paid the house a couple times to pull a girl out, but have negotiated with strippers countless times. My feeling is that the girl actually gets a cut of the "house money", and as such is "incentivized" to play by the rules. But as you know by now, Luka... everything in Russia is negotiable!
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[QUOTE=Pizdyets].... But as you know by now, Luka... everything in Russia is negotiable![/QUOTE]
I totally agree drug, I am now mainly thinking when the taxi driver told me 2500rubles taking me to salon and once there the woman said tri tisice....I said, he told 2500, spasibo i udachu....she wait a while, just to check if i really decided to go and when I was opening the door already thinking to next place to visit, she said ok for 2500....the same with taxi drivers.....
Right yesterday I read in argentina forum some good reasons why to vsegda negotiate and how to do it.... very helpful....let's see this evening what I will be able to do it with the hot blonde....one thing is sure.... I will not go back to my bedroom alone ;)
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Happy Thanksgiving!
DoctorSkank, Exploere69 and Stranvinsky.
I wanted to say thank you guys for your help. Being here in Japan and trying to coordinate my Visa to Russia was a pain but I finally have it on my possession! March here I come! 1st making a visit to Kiev : ) and than going to Russia.
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Jose,
пожалуйста! (you're welcome)
We're looking forward to reading about your trip.
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12 days in Piter
Here we are to write the report of the last of 5 cities I visited.
It was the second time in Piter, the first was on september 04 and besides that the prices went up, I found the city more or less the same. But considering I was in 3 cities-provincies to be back to Piter gave me the feeling to be back in my home town cause everything was for me very easy.
For example you almost neither need to speak russian in Piter, if you take accomodation close to Nevsky you have everything so close, big choose of restaurants, bars and place where to go, very friendly city for a newbie.
To make long shor:
Magrib:
The main place where to go, the most known even if, it was better in 2004, now girls are still pretty, but I almost went there for the restaurant, than for the disco, never took home a girl from there but a guy I met did and for 150 euro, he said not bad girl.
Marstall:
I went there cause I do not know why...I never paid entrance, I think cause they know a foreigner will take girl home and they take money from every girl who works there. (one told me that they pay the boss there on monday, so it can be a good idea to there in this day to get better price...).
I took home only one girl for 5.000 rubles-150 euro, the bad thing she wanted to stop at supermarket to buy food and vodka...almost 1500 rubles of food that however she left to my home.With her the first time was pretty cold sex,but I knew about it, but I wanted her cause she was really nice, everything covered however.
The second time I took her, I just said I am here looking for girlfriend, I very seldom pay to get sex LOL, I like you but with you I had the feeling to have sex and or I make love with a girl or I prefer my hand-0 euro....about one hour of bullshit like this and I got the second time I took her a very good session, not only cause I told her I had only 100 euro for all night, but also cause after a covered sex I got a wonderful bbbj with cim and swallow ( she did all alone, from took out condom till the end...neither need to ask...very nice) and before it daty and passionate dfk, so I am sure, with a little of work, you can have a lot paying not so much and even if the level of girl is not high,but there are many 7'.
Rossi's:
I wen there every night, besides the weekend when it get too much crowded, during the other days you find always some girls. Good when I took home that later told me she worked in Magrib, 100 euro, not bad, but nothing wonderful too.
XXX:
The problem here that af the beginning they did not want to make me and 2 guys I met inside, after I chatted a little in russia, man door said ok, but with a fee of 1.000 rubles. I wanted to get into ( after all the money I spent one thousand ruble was not making me poorer or richer...), but they did not agree. It was a pity cause many nice normal girls, eye touch and no one foreigners.
Red club:
It is a disco, after waited about half hour outside, they did not allow to get into,neither with tip. a pity too, as at XXX nice girls.
I went too to the total rip off that is the strip club Golden Dolls, I knew in advance what it was, but I was very curious to be in a place full of 9' and 10' and indeed it is ! I was good that I stayed there only about half hour and total damage with entrance of about 40 euro...but really full of nice girls that you can take home for 1.000usd, but not every girl. For example the one I spoke too, tried to make me choose privat dance, privat shower and when ( just to test her...), I said, money is not a problem but I like sex and not to see somebody dance close to me, she said I never have sex with customer. I asked why ? She said, no need to have sex here to earn a lot of money, so why I have to do it ? Who is gonna to pay to have private dance ? Me suuurely not !
Salons:
Here we have the only thing that real worth it in Piter and I will write about salons next time.... LOL ! ;)
The first suggest as many already wrote is to buy a sim card...you will use it many times...
Second as beginning to find a "good" taxi and with good I mean one that is not gonna to rip you too much and that he will have more than one phone numbers of salons.
However I was in many salons with price of 2500 rubles 1 hour, so I am pretty sure, taxi driver charges usually 500 rubles, maybe sometime 1000, but considering how it is sometime even for taxi driver to find the flat, it really worth it, cause with taxi you need less than one hour to check 4-5 salons (there are many not far from Nevski...), but alone it will take you many hours.
So how to find them, for me taxi worth it.
The other problem is that most of time they want you will have sex in their flat...and I never did once !
Why ?
I am not gonna to have sex on the bed where already had tons of time and they hardly agree to take her to your place and when they do, the driver always come to check your flat.
Also happens to me that once she went to my place and said...you live at ground floor, I am afraid...so we had with the driver to go back to salon, when another couple of times the woman-boss tried to convince me to have sex there before to finally give me back my money....
So it is really no easy, it seems to me surely less easier than in 2004 and every time I thought as it get so easy with tochka in Moscow where you take her and nobody cares or ask where you live, if you live alone and so on.
However as you see in the following 3 photos, the quality is surely not bad and also the prices are more or less the same as in provincies.
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Luka,
Thanks for all of your reports. From what you say, I have the idea that prices and quality in the provinces are really not much better than what you will find in Moscow or Piter. It seems Piter may be a little less than Moscow.
Do you remember the location of Rossi and XXX? Where are they?
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]Luka,
Thanks for all of your reports. From what you say, I have the idea that prices and quality in the provinces are really not much better than what you will find in Moscow or Piter. It seems Piter may be a little less than Moscow.
Do you remember the location of Rossi and XXX? Where are they?[/QUOTE]
Privetik Stravvie ;)
Rossi's is just 10 minutes walking from Magrib and 1 minute by taxi, 150 rubles as max price to get there. I love to walk and always I went from Magrib to Marstall and then to Rossi walking, specially in early november when there was not so much cold and Nevski still full of girls...
Rossi:so you leave Magrib and you go to right toward Marstall, after about 300-400 metres, after fontanka bridge but before Gostiny Dvor, you acroos the street, there is a park there, close there is Yakitoria sushi restaurant and a 200 metres more forward Rossi. Everybody knows it and more hard to explain than to find it.
XXX:I went there with taxi and during the travel I talked with other two guys, so I do not remember exactly, but it is very close to Magrib too, in the stary Nevski, about 200 rubles from Magrib. And close to XXX is red club too. Actually it should be also a XX and XXXX, if the girl who told me this, did not lie me :).
Soon I will post the last part, my imho impressions about provincies and the two main cities, but yes, you are right...
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[QUOTE=Lukasek]Privetik Stravvie ;)
Rossi's is just 10 minutes walking from Magrib and 1 minute by taxi, 150 rubles as max price to get there. I love to walk and always I went from Magrib to Marstall and then to Rossi walking, specially in early november when there was not so much cold and Nevski still full of girls...
Rossi:so you leave Magrib and you go to right toward Marstall, after about 300-400 metres, after fontanka bridge but before Gostiny Dvor, you acroos the street, there is a park there, close there is Yakitoria sushi restaurant and a 200 metres more forward Rossi. Everybody knows it and more hard to explain than to find it.
XXX:I went there with taxi and during the travel I talked with other two guys, so I do not remember exactly, but it is very close to Magrib too, in the stary Nevski, about 200 rubles from Magrib. And close to XXX is red club too. Actually it should be also a XX and XXXX, if the girl who told me this, did not lie me :).
Soon I will post the last part, my imho impressions about provincies and the two main cities, but yes, you are right...[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.rossis.ru/[/url]
At the airport now headed to Moscow........ (with visions of Devushki dancing in my head)
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Great report Lukasek! Too bad we missed each other!
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Magrib:
The main place where to go, the most known even if, it was better in 2004, now girls are still pretty, but I almost went there for the restaurant, than for the disco, never took home a girl from there but a guy I met did and for 150 euro, he said not bad girl.
[/QUOTE]Haven't been there in a while... didn't somebody write that it was being remonted?[QUOTE=Lukasek]Marstall:
I went there cause I do not know why...I never paid entrance, I think cause they know a foreigner will take girl home and they take money from every girl who works there. (one told me that they pay the boss there on monday, so it can be a good idea to there in this day to get better price...).
I took home only one girl for 5.000 rubles-150 euro, the bad thing she wanted to stop at supermarket to buy food and vodka...almost 1500 rubles of food that however she left to my home.With her the first time was pretty cold sex,but I knew about it, but I wanted her cause she was really nice, everything covered however.[/QUOTE]I actually went there again for the first time in a while and was impressed. There were some freebie type FOREIGNER women there, as it still is one of the most widely advertised places in St.Pete expat press. Some people only know this place when they first arrive.
But what was really interesting was that there was a decent selection of women, mostly 5-7s but with a 7+ or two. Overall not bad for ***** selection. Prices 5000-7000 rubles for 2-3 hours or more. I was offered a double team from two cute chicks for 9000 rubles until morning. I probably should have taken it, as the price is on par with the salons and with pickup girls it seems to me that more "options" are available. Also offered 5000 rubles for 2 hours after some negotiation. Worth a look IMO.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Rossi's:
I wen there every night, besides the weekend when it get too much crowded, during the other days you find always some girls. Good when I took home that later told me she worked in Magrib, 100 euro, not bad, but nothing wonderful too.
[/QUOTE]I honestly didn't know there were pros at Rossi's... but apparently there are pros everywhere at every club.[QUOTE=Lukasek]XXX:
The problem here that af the beginning they did not want to make me and 2 guys I met inside, after I chatted a little in russia, man door said ok, but with a fee of 1.000 rubles. I wanted to get into ( after all the money I spent one thousand ruble was not making me poorer or richer...), but they did not agree. It was a pity cause many nice normal girls, eye touch and no one foreigners.
[/QUOTE]Very popular place and difficult to get into... simply too packed. But isn't it called "XXXX" or "chitire X"?[QUOTE=Lukasek]Salons:
Here we have the only thing that real worth it in Piter and I will write about salons next time.... LOL ! ;)
The first suggest as many already wrote is to buy a sim card...you will use it many times...
Second as beginning to find a "good" taxi and with good I mean one that is not gonna to rip you too much and that he will have more than one phone numbers of salons.
However I was in many salons with price of 2500 rubles 1 hour, so I am pretty sure, taxi driver charges usually 500 rubles, maybe sometime 1000, but considering how it is sometime even for taxi driver to find the flat, it really worth it, cause with taxi you need less than one hour to check 4-5 salons (there are many not far from Nevski...), but alone it will take you many hours.
So how to find them, for me taxi worth it.
[/QUOTE]I called Domino on my last trip and they brought 2 girls by for me to choose from, both were ok... 7s. I ended up taking a blonde. OK time, but being drunk and tired it was nothing special. Not the girl's fault though. All salons deliver if you ask, but make sure you tell them exactly what you want and that you won't take unattractive girls.
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Privetik Doc, da soudavolstim ja vstriecjal s teboj...but I went home early as I thought, maybe, I really hope, next time we meet.
Answering you, I wrote Magrib had to have a remonting, cause a girl told me this, but when I was there they did not started yet.
Marstall: the problem is that they are really hardcore pro and hard to get a gfe at first time enough easily as I saw during the second time.
I saw after a little negotiating they agree for 5000 rubles, but the problem is that what I got speaking with other foreigners there ( a good thing about Marstall that you always meet mongers so you go into alone, but you get friends whom to meet again there..), is that all night is always till you cum, even with the girl I took for the second time I tried to make her to stay for the second shot, but she left.
Good is to tell them something like this: I give you 3000 rubles, she smiles and surely not agree, but you tell her, if you won't find another one, come back to me....one I spoke whom there, told me it works sucessfull with a little of patience, cause specially in slow evening, most men there are drunk, look bad and atd, so if you are a bit nice, she can really choose to have sex with a better looking specially considering many of them are there every day and so far as I saw, they are really in big need of money....always negotiate, always about everything....besides when you go to buy newspapers photomodeli-randevu-znakomstva ;)
Rossi:I guess the girls sitting alone at the tables on the left going to direction of karaoke and bathroom and that dress good can be pro...as always...just to ask ;) and the one that I took and that told me at Magrib, she approached me first, I only smiled to her...another good trick...smile to girls, you lose nothing and you can get much more you'd think...
I was only XXX, but a girl told me, that exists also XX and XXXX, I do not know if it is true or not.
I agree, never be shy to ask a girl that provides anal or bbbj or a blonde thin or a brunette...you have money, you ask, the worst you risk is that say net.
The only thing I did not do, to try sauna and I regret....
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Hi Luka,
How is the weather in Saint Petersburg now? Is it possible to have a easy walk by foot or a easy drive by car? Or is it better to avoid them?
And what about people's mood? Is it still easy to contact tochki or, even in Russia, police is catching sex providers?
Cheers!
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SPT , few questions from a newbie...
Fellow mongers, I am planning a trip to SPT with 2 other friends. I have read the forum back to front but would like to have a straight opinion from more experienced SPT mongers.
First things first, how's the scene for Black guys. Is it likely to be dangerous, are those brainless thugs doing run-downs during the night if we cross them, or can one just go freely minding his own business?
I will be the only black of the group anyway but would like to know what can I expect before heading there. Please be honest.
Being on our late twenties and looking pretty decent and well-mannered, how are the chances to score in a "normal" club? Any local meat markets where we can approach fine women and eventually get freebies with non-pros?
Don't take me wrong we always go for plan A which is the hard work one and if this fails then we resort to plan B: Pay & Play
I would appreciate your sincere opinions, and also if you could help me with places to go and the concept that works best. We are Brazil fans, and we did the whole TERMAS thing. Is there something similar in SPT? If not, what is the best solution if after a long night we find out that going legit is not paying out after all. I kept reading about this place (Rossi), what is it? A sort of HELP like in Rio, is it a normal club with some odd pro's?
I heard about these "white nights", does it really worth it going there during that period or would it be pretty much the same as every other period of the year?
Please let me know all the must and must nots as we are eager to make our way to SPT but would like to do our homework before.
Thank you all!
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[QUOTE=Black Spot]First things first, how's the scene for Black guys. Is it likely to be dangerous, are those brainless thugs doing run-downs during the night if we cross them, or can one just go freely minding his own business?
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Don't go out alone - especially at night. Seriously. There are a lot of "Nashi" types out there who would like nothing better than to beat you to a pulp. Sad, but that's the fact.
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Being on our late twenties and looking pretty decent and well-mannered, how are the chances to score in a "normal" club? Any local meat markets where we can approach fine women and eventually get freebies with non-pros?
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I'm not black, but had a couple black colleagues visit me here (in Moscow). Can't speak directly to the Piter club scene, but there are places in Moscow where there are tons of black guys (mostly direct from Africa though). But even in the standard clubs, if you're good looking and well dressed, you'll do fine. Not all deffki will go for you, but hey, aren't we all in that boat? In all honesty, there just aren't many black guys in Russia, so at least you'll be a novelty.
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I heard about these "white nights", does it really worth it going there during that period or would it be pretty much the same as every other period of the year?
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It's cool, but IMHO not worth the extra cost of what you'll pay in hotel/apartment. And it's freakin crowded during that time with tourists. I prefer to go earlier (early May) or late (early September). But definitely not winter - it's even worse than Moscow (again, IMO).
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I agree fully with what Pizdyets says. Just want to add a couple of things.
The St-Pete's club scene is much poorer than the Moscow one. As I said in my previous reports, I no longer go to clubs, but only to salons (apartments), and during daytime (because of risks at night if you're non-white).
To score with freebies in "normal" clubs, you have much better chances if you can speak Russian. 9 out of 10 girls I see don't speak English. Even for pay&play, you need to speak Russian to go to salons. Even girls who advertise as English speaking on the internet sometimes don't speak a single word.
There is nothing like a terma in St-Pete.
Jim
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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Don't go out alone - especially at night. Seriously. There are a lot of "Nashi" types out there who would like nothing better than to beat you to a pulp. Sad, but that's the fact.
Thank you very much Pizdyets !!! All in all if I have to choose would you advise me/us to head somewhere else in the EEurope block?
I was keen on SPT but your warnings and the tedious VISA process put me a little bit off.
Anyway I appreciate the honest comments.
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[QUOTE=GandJim]There is nothing like a terma in St-Pete.[/QUOTE]GJ,
Interesting... I always thought a terma was an experience specific to Brazil, sort of like a south American FKK club. Are you saying that there are terma's in Piter? Or are you just using the word as a generic reference for a salon?
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Strav,
It was a reply to a question from Black Spot. He was asking if there is something like a terma in St-Pete, and I replied that there is nothing (zero) like it. I agree with you, there are absolutely no termas or anything similar in St-Pete.
Jim
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Piter still not a bad choice
[QUOTE=Black Spot]All in all if I have to choose would you advise me/us to head somewhere else in the EEurope block?
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Depends what you want, doesn't it? If you're looking for great museums, lots of sunlight, and hot (fuckable) girls, then Piter is a damn good choice. I like Piter a lot, in fact. But Kiev is a great choice too. Girls just as hot (if not more so - but a matter of taste), probably twice as fuckable given the exchange rate and lack of dollars there, and still a very beautiful city. The best plays for freebie pussy are without a doubt in the provinces, but you'd need some Russian skills there (check out Lukasek's recent reports). As for other destinations in Eastern Europe, I've been to pretty much everywhere - Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Slovenia, Albania, Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia, etc. Found the freebie pussy to be about the same everywhere. In other words, you have to work a lot harder than you do in Russia/Ukraine/Belarus.
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I was keen on SPT but your warnings and the tedious VISA process put me a little bit off.
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You'll be on a tourist visa, no? It's a piece of cake. Guys like gotorussia.com can get you an invitation in one hour. Then you either visit a Russian consulate or have someone do it for you. Again, if you're not in a hurry, it's totally easy and not expensive. On the other hand, if you're an EU, Canadian or US citizen, you can go to Ukraine without a visa - which is a plus.
You have no idea what [I]tedious[/I] really is until you've worked here officially. But at least I can sleep soundly now knowing I don't have leprosy, hepatitis, chancroid... haha.
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Good, I made my mind
You have no idea what [I]tedious[/I] really is until you've worked here officially. But at least I can sleep soundly now knowing I don't have leprosy, hepatitis, chancroid... haha.[/QUOTE]We are all EU citizens. Sorry for the constant questions Pizdyets, but what do you meant with your last sentence? I must confess I'm curious, now. What does tedious VISA process has to do with leprosy, hepatitis?
Is this slavic humour.
Having said that they do ask for a complete medical insurance. Do we need to do a pre health check as part of the VISA process?
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[QUOTE=Black Spot]I must confess I'm curious, now. What does tedious VISA process has to do with leprosy, hepatitis? Is this slavic humour.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is a kind of slavic humour, but, you would have to live in Russia for several years before you would get the joke.
A Russian tourist visa is good for 30 days, if your stay is less than 30 days then the process is fairly simple. If you want to stay longer than that, for the purpose of living or working in Russia, then the Russian government requires you prove to them that you do not have any dangerous diseases, such as the ones that Pizdyets just mentioned. The humour is that most of the diseases the Russian government is concerned about either don't exist anymore, or are so rare and unknown that the chances of anyone having them is almost impossible.
But they still want proof that you don't have them. Get it?
They still want proof that you don't have them??
OK, let me explain this a different way.... :)
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Slavic humour indeed...
Ok, ok. Got you. Ha, ha
No plans to stay more than the necessary 4/5 days.
Thanks for the explanation.
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Slavic Humour?
[QUOTE=Black Spot]Ok, ok. Got you. Ha, ha
No plans to stay more than the necessary 4/5 days.
Thanks for the explanation.[/QUOTE]
BS - I'm no more Slavic than you are. Okay, maybe a tad more. LOL
It's simply the sad state of affairs of trying to work in Russia. Any multi-entry visa longer than 90 days requires an HIV test from an accredited clinic. And a work permit requires additional testing for hepatitis, TB, chancroid (whatever that is), leprosy (which probably only existed in the gulags anyway), as well as chlamydia and syphillis. Surprisingly, no tests for gonorrhea. The irony is that all those are no doubt more prevalent in Russia than Western Europe and the US, but the same tests must be taken by all foreigners, regardless of country of origin.
As for medical insurance, they will want to see it when you apply for your visa, assuming you're an EU citizen. This is a matter of reciprocity, since most Schengen (EU) visas require that Russian citizens prove medical coverage as well. US visas do not, and therefore Americans do not need to prove medical coverage when applying for Russian visas of any duration.
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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]It's simply the sad state of affairs of trying to work in Russia. Any multi-entry visa longer than 90 days requires an HIV test from an accredited clinic. And a work permit requires additional testing for hepatitis, TB, chancroid (whatever that is), leprosy (which probably only existed in the gulags anyway), as well as chlamydia and syphillis. .[/QUOTE]I've never had to have any of those tests for my multi-entry. The only thing extra I have had to do is fill out some lame form stating every country I've ever been to and if I have any military skillz etc.
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Leprosy anyone?
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I've never had to have any of those tests for my multi-entry. The only thing extra I have had to do is fill out some lame form stating every country I've ever been to and if I have any military skillz etc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the barrage of tests is only for the work permit.
As for HIV tests, it depends upon the consulate you go to, but all I know of require it. You're very lucky that yours doesn't require it. It's all par for the course for Russian bureaucracy - a multitude of contradicting laws which are understood only to the degree to which they may be selectively enforced for the apparatchik's personal gain.
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[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Yeah, the barrage of tests is only for the work permit.
As for HIV tests, it depends upon the consulate you go to, but all I know of require it. You're very lucky that yours doesn't require it. It's all par for the course for Russian bureaucracy - a multitude of contradicting laws which are understood only to the degree to which they may be selectively enforced for the apparatchik's personal gain.[/QUOTE]I get my HIV test done every year anyway just for peace of mind... so maybe they spoke to my physician... :)
Here's a holiday joke for you:
What'd the leper say to the prostitute?
Keep the tip.
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No longer required
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I've never had to have any of those tests for my multi-entry. The only thing extra I have had to do is fill out some lame form stating every country I've ever been to and if I have any military skillz etc.[/QUOTE]
Got my one year multi-entry bus visa renewed in November. When I presented my HIV screen, the dude told me thst is was no longer necessary. Only for students now he tells me. Oh - and for work permits.
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Leper
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I get my HIV test done every year anyway just for peace of mind... so maybe they spoke to my physician... :)
Here's a holiday joke for you:
What'd the leper say to the prostitute?
Keep the tip.[/QUOTE]
Leper: A person suffering from leprosy? Can you explain please?
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The 'tip' of his cock....
[QUOTE=My Own Again]Leper: A person suffering from leprosy? Can you explain please?[/QUOTE]As in parts of body 'falling off'
PUN, play on words, TIP - gratuity for services!
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Got my one year multi-entry bus visa renewed in November. When I presented my HIV screen, the dude told me thst is was no longer necessary. Only for students now he tells me. Oh - and for work permits.[/QUOTE]
Good to know - thanks guys. I had wasted a lot of time and $s in the past getting multi-entry invites for visiting colleagues/partners only to have them commute them to 90-day dual-entry when visiting the Russian consulates.
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Porn stars turned escort
I was browsing some SPB escort sites and came across these former porn stars.
Ksenia on EBI:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ksenia_2.html[/url]
Ksenia on Russian Sex Bombs:
[url]http://www.russiansexbombs.com/girl-4813.html[/url]
Marina on EBI:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/marina.html[/url]
Marina on Bad Russian Girls:
[url]http://www.bad-russian-girls.com/w23i4977.htm[/url]
But I couldn't find the girl I was actually looking for:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/oksana_2.html[/url]
I was told Oksana now works as an escort in SPB. Anybody ever seen her picture on an escort/salon site? Anybody had the pleasure of meeting Oksana?
Loso
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[quote=shelbysbaker]in the end, i had a great time in st. petersburg. i learned that you need to be flexible and not locked into a particular girl or a particular time, but that's part of mongering anyway, isn't it? i'm going to have many memories reinforced by great photos and videos, so i'm happy i went through the hassle of bringing 70kg of camera equipment and hiring a photographer.
i've worked with "normal" models in a professional capacity before (although unfortunately all my models were clothed). sometimes, models can be hard to work with. but other than a minor snafu with julia 635 when she didn't want to "fuck an old guy" or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on camera, all lena's models were a pleasure to work with (even julia was a pleasure after i promised her the "hustler" blouses).
i do like to aspire to professional quality, and although my pictures and video are still decidedly amateur, they're getting better. i think i'll hire a makeup artist next time to improve the results even more. and you can be assured that there will be many more "next times."
when all was complete, lena came by to collect her commissions and bring some paperwork by. she's an ex-model herself who started this business eight years ago. i didn't know what to expect until a beautiful blond walked through the door.
she visited with us for a while, and it became obvious that she loves her work. talking about the models and experiences was lighthearted and entertaining. she certainly did a great job dealing with problems caused by both me and the girls--like girls suddenly retiring at the last minute or getting ill, and my making a mistake on the dates. she even helped us do things like locate photo shops to secure parts for the strobe units or find sex shops to purchase an "anal vibrator" for my shoot with katya 642.
sabrina redheart (philipina) was still there after our gangbang scene, so the three of us huddled around the computer to look at photos and videos. it felt a little unusual to be with 2 beautiful women, looking at pictures of me fucking one of them and her getting splattered with cum. it's certainly a different environment, but one i could easily get used to![/quote]just out of curiosity: are you planning to sell any of the footage you shot?
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Rocco need not worry
[QUOTE=Ledrak99]Just out of curiosity: Are you planning to sell any of the footage you shot?[/QUOTE]
SSB isn't one to toot his own horn, but he's a fairly high-profile guy in real-life. I strongly suspect his well-to-do clients wouldn't be too pleased to discover his avocational exploits. As such, don't expect to see "Shelbysbaker Ravishes St. Petersburg" on the shelves of your local porn peddler anytime soon.
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Sorry guys
[QUOTE=Pizdyets]SSB isn't one to toot his own horn, but he's a fairly high-profile guy in real-life. I strongly suspect his well-to-do clients wouldn't be too pleased to discover his avocational exploits. As such, don't expect to see "Shelbysbaker Ravishes St. Petersburg" on the shelves of your local porn peddler anytime soon.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for the delay. I promise to publish some reports and upload some pictures as soon as I can. I just haven't had the time to write up the reports and organize the photos since my last trip to Russia. Ever since the inauguration on January 20, I've been really busy getting my cabinet in order, moving into a new, big home on Pennsylvania Ave. that I'll occupy for a few years, and finalizing the details of this really big plan that's going to cost a bunch of money.
I'm hoping to delegate some of the more mundane details of my job to Joe B., to free me up to write up the reports, re-size the pictures, and post further details of my exploits. Pizdyets is right about my clients and co-workers. A certain member of my cabinet (a.k.a. Hillary) has had huge problems in the past with certain exploits of someone in my position, and she'd be a _major_b..ch_ if a scandal like that would arise again.
In the meantime, I've attached a few images to let you know I had a great time!
--SSB
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Ssb
Are you a politican or something? Diplomat?
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[QUOTE=Shelbysbaker]Pizdyets is right about my clients and co-workers. A certain member of my cabinet has had huge problems in the past with certain exploits of someone in my position, and she'd be a _major_b..ch_ if a scandal like that would arise again.[/QUOTE]Well, I must say I'm a bit confused as to why you would use all that professional equipment to film a bunch of content that will never see the light of day.
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[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]Are you a politican or something? Diplomat?[/QUOTE]
My message below was an attempt at humor. In real life I am neither a politician nor a diplomat. Perhaps my humor was too subtle.
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[QUOTE=Ledrak99]Well, I must say I'm a bit confused as to why you would use all that professional equipment to film a bunch of content that will never see the light of day.[/QUOTE]
I promise to publish the photographs as soon as I have time.
The videos are a little harder. I need to edit them out since I am not aspiring to become an internationally identifiable porn star. However, even the videos that I can release (such as where the girls do a striptease) are huge (over 100MB). I haven't figured out the best way to post them... maybe something like megaupload.com? I'm not sure if posting rules permit me to post links to external sites.
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General information
Gentlemen,
I have been reading this forum for quite some years due to the constant expectation that I would visit Saint Petersburg one day. For years, this only stayed a promise, until recently, when my chances rocketed from 1% to 99%. So I started my preparations.
Having read this forum I already know about most ingredients necessary for a pleasant stay, however I want to discuss a few trends and items that have not been discussed before.
1. Has anyone ever used the search system on Mamba? You need to pay a few dollars access to the search system (which I don't mind) but you can only transfer funds to Mamba using Russian money resources like Yandex dengi and Webmoney. Has anyone ever succeeded using / sending funds to these resources from outside Russia?
2. I will stay in a girl-unfriendly hotel (sorry, company rules!) so I will need a room for a few hours close to Nevsky during a day/evening/night every now and then. Any recommendations? I remember a thread from a few years ago when someone mentioned such a rent-per-hour place.
3. I seem to notice an increase of girls looking for sponsorship over the past few months on Mamba. Is this observation right?
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Xorowo,
I've made a couple of trips to Piter in the last several months. I've been intending to post a comprehensive trip report, but haven't gotten around to it.
I've spent quite a bit of time on Mamba, and I'd advise against any hopes on that front. Many of the profiles are shameless bait-and-switch, and many of the hotties that are seeking a sponsor will see you as a short term visitor and will be not be interested.
Regarding outcalls, I'd advise against them. My experiences is that outcalls will almost always be a bait and switch, and usually a very limited menu (ie cbj, etc). You also don't have much of a recourse if you get ripped off.
By far I had the best experiences at the salons, and at the massage spas. (orchid and afrodita).
[url]http://www.afrodita-spa.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/[/url]
I had my best consistent experiences at a salon at Marata 30. Although higher end at 4000 rubles an hour, I saw 4 girls there and 3 were great, and the fourth just clearly didn't feel comfortable but still did her best.
(I expect, DFK/DATY/BBBJ/Rimmingthegirl, as a bare minimum)
As mentioned, I will post a comprehensive report on my trips soon, but I would say go to the massage places first, to take the nervousness off. At 2700 rubles for a nice erotic massage in a safe, environment with no scams, I think it is the best place to start. Orchid is the better of the two in my opinion, but Afrodita is good also.
I also had very good experiences with [url]www.mixphoto.com[/url]. If you want to to that route, then yes you would need an outcall location. But I'd say that simply ask the mixphoto folk, and I bet they could arrange somewhere for you. However I think that they charge in US Dollars, and so you won't receive the benefit of the weaker ruble.
Regards
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Dear Loso,
But do those sites work indeed? I mean, if I pay a membership, then I can get the girl that I want? I had a membership with bad-Russian-girls but I never received a reply. Maybe do I need to write in Russian only? Can you explain how to get the girl that I want?
[QUOTE=Loso69]I was browsing some SPB escort sites and came across these former porn stars.
Ksenia on EBI:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ksenia_2.html[/url]
Ksenia on Russian Sex Bombs:
[url]http://www.russiansexbombs.com/girl-4813.html[/url]
Marina on EBI:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/marina.html[/url]
Marina on Bad Russian Girls:
[url]http://www.bad-russian-girls.com/w23i4977.htm[/url]
But I couldn't find the girl I was actually looking for:
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/oksana_2.html[/url]
I was told Oksana now works as an escort in SPB. Anybody ever seen her picture on an escort/salon site? Anybody had the pleasure of meeting Oksana?
Loso[/QUOTE]
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Uh? What do you mean, in few words? 90% advertisements in mamba sites and in prostitutki sites are frauds, with fake pictures and imaginary services?
What about BBBJ, do you mean swallow blowjob?
[QUOTE=Fijiman]Xorowo,
I've made a couple of trips to Piter in the last several months. I've been intending to post a comprehensive trip report, but haven't gotten around to it.
I've spent quite a bit of time on Mamba, and I'd advise against any hopes on that front. Many of the profiles are shameless bait-and-switch, and many of the hotties that are seeking a sponsor will see you as a short term visitor and will be not be interested.
Regarding outcalls, I'd advise against them. My experiences is that outcalls will almost always be a bait and switch, and usually a very limited menu (ie cbj, etc). You also don't have much of a recourse if you get ripped off.
By far I had the best experiences at the salons, and at the massage spas. (orchid and afrodita).
[url]http://www.afrodita-spa.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/[/url]
I had my best consistent experiences at a salon at Marata 30. Although higher end at 4000 rubles an hour, I saw 4 girls there and 3 were great, and the fourth just clearly didn't feel comfortable but still did her best.
(I expect, DFK/DATY/BBBJ/Rimmingthegirl, as a bare minimum)
As mentioned, I will post a comprehensive report on my trips soon, but I would say go to the massage places first, to take the nervousness off. At 2700 rubles for a nice erotic massage in a safe, environment with no scams, I think it is the best place to start. Orchid is the better of the two in my opinion, but Afrodita is good also.
I also had very good experiences with [url]www.mixphoto.com[/url]. If you want to to that route, then yes you would need an outcall location. But I'd say that simply ask the mixphoto folk, and I bet they could arrange somewhere for you. However I think that they charge in US Dollars, and so you won't receive the benefit of the weaker ruble.
Regards[/QUOTE]
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ACol,
BBBJ=Bare Back Blow Job
BBBJCIM=as above+CIM
BBBJSW=as above+swallow
Regarding Mamba, sorry, but I don't understand your question. Can you restate more clearly?
Thx
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[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Dear Loso,
But do those sites work indeed? I mean, if I pay a membership, then I can get the girl that I want? I had a membership with bad-Russian-girls but I never received a reply. Maybe do I need to write in Russian only? Can you explain how to get the girl that I want?[/QUOTE]
EBI is a porn-enthusiast site, without social networking (eg mamba) or solicitation (eg mixphoto). That said, some of the Piter-based pornstars do have a presence there. And I believe that Sabrina Redheart's photo on EBI was taken by our very own SSB! Not bad for a neprofessionalny fotograf, eh?
No experience with BRG - sorry.
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Yes, I mean a good blowjob is like a blowjob made by our girlfriends, without condom and all swallow.
I am a gentleman but I know what is a real blowjob, therefore I am pretty surprised to see a lot of men enjoying BBBJ with no swallow, that is like an interrupted coitus.
Moreover, if in Italy I found (before new government law) Ukrainians and Russians making deepthroath swallow cum injection blowjobs as a standard service (and Hungarians as well), I always wonder why it is so hard to get the same standard service from the same girls in Russia and in Ukraine, their own origin countries.
Moreoevr, I know, all Russian prostitutes learn karolesky miniet very well, before to start prostitution work: if you don't make karolesky miniet, then you don't work (as a prostitute).
[QUOTE=Fijiman]ACol,
BBBJ=Bare Back Blow Job
BBBJCIM=as above+CIM
BBBJSW=as above+swallow
Regarding Mamba, sorry, but I don't understand your question. Can you restate more clearly?
Thx[/QUOTE]
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Agreed......
[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Yes, I mean a good blowjob is like a blowjob made by our girlfriends, without condom and all swallow.
I am a gentleman but I know what is a real blowjob, therefore I am pretty surprised to see a lot of men enjoying BBBJ with no swallow, that is like an interrupted coitus.
Moreover, if in Italy I found (before new government law) Ukrainians and Russians making deepthroath swallow cum injection blowjobs as a standard service (and Hungarians as well), I always wonder why it is so hard to get the same standard service from the same girls in Russia and in Ukraine, their own origin countries.
Moreoevr, I know, all Russian prostitutes learn karolesky miniet very well, before to start prostitution work: if you don't make karolesky miniet, then you don't work (as a prostitute).[/QUOTE]
Personally, I think CBJ's are usually a bit of waste of time. 90% of the pleasure is removed so what's the point?
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Updates
Things are so quiet here for a long time.
I heard that Maghrib is closed now.
Tribunal moved to a new location.
Any updates will be appreciated.
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Report on past trip
Hi guys,
I had a trip to SPB at th end of last year and din't manage to make any report at the time. Reading all the info on this forum has been invaluable and SPB is definitely a cool place where you can make lots of great experiences. But be careful cos tourist traps are behind the corner.
I want extend my public greetings to mr. Fijiman from this forum which I had the pelasure to meet there.
Amazing great guy, terrific company and we had lots of fun together (now I remember I still need to send you a few pics man). Need to find them again :)
You clearly need some basic language skill (meaning russian) to move around (I got next to none) but the fun is ensured. Tried a few of the local social networks (using a translator) and maybe a 5% of the tries gave some results. You clearly have to try your luck on a massive scale to try to find the real perls in there.
However the MP in the city are probably the best places for a quick fun but you have to be ready to visit a few of them in the same night to find the right girl. Wish I will find the time to organize something with MixPhoto next time, I heard only good about them :)
Cheers and enjoy SPB :)
TL
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[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Dear Loso,
But do those sites work indeed? I mean, if I pay a membership, then I can get the girl that I want? I had a membership with bad-Russian-girls but I never received a reply. Maybe do I need to write in Russian only? Can you explain how to get the girl that I want?[/QUOTE]
There are 2 business models for freelance escort sites:
1) The girls pay to be on the site. Guys get info for free.
2) The girls advertize for free. Guys pay for their contact info.
I never bother with type 2. Too many fake ads.
Loso
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This is another porn star (with contact info):
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi6734.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/karolina.html[/url]
Don't know if the ad is real or fake, though.
Loso
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www.met-art.com and fresh girls from Russia
That's interesting: Saint Petersburg seems to be a more relaxing city than Moscow and moreover it seems to be the right place to find erotic models for escort service.
I read here that [url]www.eurobabeindex.com[/url] is one of the main source to choice our favourite pornstars.
But I really become crazy when I think to meet my favourite girls from [url]www.met-art.com:[/url] could anybody help me, with information and experiences?
Of course, all good posts will be rewarded ;)
Thanxxx in advance.
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But does she exist?
[url]http://www.kisski.ru/categories.php?cat_id=216[/url]
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Yes she exists but not in St. Petersburg probably.
The pictures are of erotic model from Czech republic going under name of Vendula or something like that.
There are plenty of fake profiles on this web site.
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In St. Petersburg!
Just arrive guys! Now going out and checking the eye Candy! The only bad part about being here its freaking cold!
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[QUOTE=Maglock]Just arrive guys! Now going out and checking the eye Candy! The only bad part about being here its freaking cold![/QUOTE]So how is the eye candy after the first 24 hours - keeping you warm yet?
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No, I found her! She's Emily Scott, Australian glamour model from Golden Coast. Also Jodie Moore is from the Golden Coast and she would like to become an Australian parliament member. Just a comment, all fantastic women but Australia is ten times more expensive than Europe and Moscow.
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Yes she exists but not in St. Petersburg probably.
The pictures are of erotic model from Czech republic going under name of Vendula or something like that.
There are plenty of fake profiles on this web site.[/QUOTE]
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: )
My 1st day went well. Just got around and learn the layout of the area I am staying. 2nd day I met a freebie. Cool girl with a very sexy body who has been showing me around but I haven't closed the deal. Tonight we are going to the movies so I hope to close it today! Hehe
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One Week In Saint Petersburg
It had been quite some time that I wanted to visit Piter. Since the credit crisis also hit my company, I decided to travel on my own. This also had the advantage that I could arrange everything myself and optimize my journey for fun instead of business. So I arranged a visa, rented an apartment, got some cash and took the plane. My driver came to pick me up at the airport. While waiting, I politely waved away all the guys who approached me for a taxi. There seems to be a system of semi-legal and semi-illegal drivers. Haven’t figured it out how it worked.
After arriving at the apartment there were a few problems to solve before I could start with what I was here for.
1st problem: get money
OK this is an easy one. Piter is literally covered with ATM machines which give you all the rubles you need. Maybe not in the immediate vicinity of your apartment, but always in the city centre and around metro station close to your apartment.
2nd problem: get food
Now I had money, I could fill the fridge of my apartment. Unfortunately the small kiosks that were the closest had only a very limited selection (unless you wanna live on bread and vodka). So I had to travel further to find a mini-market. I could not carry everything I bought at so I halted a gipsy cab to bring me home. By the way, you should not do this when you don't have a map of Piter, so buy one before you come here or you get lost.
3rd problem: get viagra and condoms
Fortunately this is now relatively easy in Piter. The time that condoms were not for sale is long gone and you can choose between national and international brands in all tastes (literally). Viagra and Cialis are available without prescription and can be bought from every pharmacy. Prices are higher than in the west but not extremely.
4th problem: get a Russian SIM card
To avoid freak costs for your own western SIM card, buy Russian prepaid one. You can buy a SIM card for a little more than 100 rubles, that's not the problem, but getting the thing work in your cell phone is a different thing. Finally it turned out that my old Nokia that I brought to Russia (I did not want my new one get stolen) could not handle this new type of SIM card. When I put it in my new Nokia, everything worked fine eventually. Megafon wanted my passport. MTS did not ask for passport. Beeline did, but when I answered my passport was at the hotel they just gave the SIM to me.
6th problem; get Internet in your room
I traveled cheap, so the apartment had no Internet connection and my wireless card showed zero wireless networks. So I asked around for dial up Internet calling cards at several mobile phone companies and two Internet cafes. They looked at me as if I did them an indecent proposal. Internet calling cards must (still) exist but where? Finally I found them in a computer shop where they explained me I can now buy Internet access at terminals you can now find everywhere in Piter. There you also can buy WebMoney, the Russian PayPal variant.
7th problem: get a girl
Solving the first six problems had cost me most of the day, so around 11PM it was time to go on dyev hunt. I spotted a black-haired girl on one of the many chat boxes and invited her into my apartment. She turned out to be a Chechen and my first meeting turned out to be.
. Another a lesson in futility
I remember a post of Doc Skank quite some time ago where he ran into a girl whose services were somewhat mediocre and he was glad to kick her out. So this Chechen came to my room and we started to chat.
She: You only chose me because other girls were unavailable Me: No that’s not true, I chose you because I wanted you She: Why you want me only 2 hours? Me: We agreed on that while chatting, so what’s the problem here? She: I am I not beautiful enough Me: Of course you are beautiful; why else did I choose you? She: your hair is too long, you need a haircut Me: Listen honey, the last thing I want to do is to go to a Russian hairdresser She: You need manicure Me: I don’t think that’s necessary She: your apartment is too expensive, I get you a cheaper one Me: That’s my problem, and I can imagine what you mean with a "cheaper apartment" in Russki style. She: The water tap is broken Me: Then call the landlord She: There is fungus in bathroom curtain Me: %$#at&&!
So I kicked her out, but minutes later she was banging at my door again being a complete different girl. She probably realized she had to choose between staying on the street for the rest of the night or stay with me. She told me she would do anything as long as she could stay in my apartment. Finally we had good sex and I even got a voluntary and free anal ride. Good sex but a problematic start. She left at 6AM.
Getting laid in an salon
From the Internet, I got a number of salons, so the next day I took the metro. In one salon I chose a 22yo next door type girl for 3500 rubles per hour. She turned out to have the hardest body (and tits) I ever felt. When I asked her about that she said she performed sport at a professional level. I agreed. She was greedy however because my session ended already after 47 minutes. She was the type of working girl you find more and more in Russia: money is the only thing that counts. That shouldn’t be a problem if their service wasn’t at the most basic level too. Overpaid!
In another salon I found a girl who actually looked like the photo on RusDosug. 5000 rubles for two hours and she had the wettest pussy of whole Piter. Genuinely! That is, we started dry but after a few minutes she was dripping wet and I even didn’t feel friction anymore. No lube involved. We left a huge wet spot on her bed.
Finding a massage parlor
While browsing through [url]www.rusDosug.com[/url], I also found some addresses of massage parlors. I chose a parlor not too far away from where I lived. I called them and they give me the street name and building number. When I arrived there I called them again for the apartment number, however I ran into a nearly unsolvable problem. Some of our colleagues mentioned to have trouble to understand the operator because of the traffic noise. So imagine what happens if men are working on the street using a pneumatic hammer? The only way to solve this was to walk to the back of the building and call again. There I got the entrance number, apartment number and door code. 5 minutes later I was upstairs. There was not so much choice (a few 6's and 7). I chose the 7 for two hours (2800 rubles). She was nice and did a good massage but I wondered if they ever changed the bed linen I was lying on. I took a shower in my apartment immediately thereafter.
Finding massage parlors that are operating in stealth mode
I also experienced massage parlors operating in stealth mode, that is, they are practically invisible. So since I now knew the address of the previous salon, door code and apartment number, what would be easier than just go there, ring the bell and get in? Well, they barricaded the last barrier, which is the door bell. They just switched it off. Knocking on the door will not help as they won't let you in pretending that no-one is there. I was forced to go back to my apartment again and call them. Then they told me to come back and call them when I was standing in front of their apartment. So I returned, called them and they let me in. This time the choice was better and I had a super hot and slim 22yo girl for one hour.
A few words have to be said about massage parlors. Although they are basically cheap (1100-1500 rubles per hour) they try to push you to more expensive programs that actually add no extra value than a fantastic name.
Finding an apartment
Having found a massage parlor I knew that finding apartment girls should be relatively simple because you follow basically the same procedure. You just have to know the street name and apartment number. What I don't like about apartments however is that they don't have an operator. It's just the girl you have called that you see, but there are more girls in the same apartment, all having a different phone number. Sometimes they allowed me to see the trade; sometimes they invented all kinds of excuses not to do so.
Finding a complex apartment
One of the more complex apartments I found was near Park Pabedi. I was first sent to hyperspace by a Russian dude who thought he would help me by speaking English but he finally messed up left (sleva/naleva) and right (sprava/naprava). I was sent to the wrong side of the road and when I asked local trespassers for directions they looked at me like I came from Mars. After half an hour or so I looked on my map and understood that I had to be on the other side of the road and from that point it became easy. 15 minutes later I located the building. This was a very big one with multiple "droizd" and entrances. The entrance was in the courtyard, as so often. This time I could not get the door code working so I asked them if someone would come down. I was collected 5 minutes later and got in. Here I choose for a 20yo very tiny (1. 49 m) Asian type of girl who claimed to be from Kalmukkia. She hadn't have sex for two weeks or so, so she literally ate me alive. But not before I shagged her first.
The exam
The exam came when I had to find a massage parlor after dark. The entrance was again at the back of the building and the light was broken. In Russia this means: there was complete darkness. However I managed to find the correct entrance and since I already knew several types of keyboards I was able to type the door code without seeing anything. Wow, I was buzzed in. Only 1100 rubles per hour but intim ne mozhna.
Anal defloration
Having phone numbers of girls is important. I always ask them if I can have it and mostly I get it. With one of them I had stayed in touch via SMS and she told me that she wanted to have her first anal experience with me. Hell, who am I to say no? When she came to me it was like seeing an old friend. (though I met her only a few days ago) After many Hello, kisses we went to the sitting room to drink some wine. Soon after that we started DFK kissing and my hands quickly were on her firm tits. She went to the shower and after 10 minutes she came back, wearing black lingerie. I quickly took a shower too and we went to the bedroom to start business. The first round was a normal one however the second one was "the" moment. Back home I bought some serious lubrication (Astroglide) and started to widen her still tight popka with my fingers and lots of lube. Finally she was relaxed enough and I gently started to push inside her. Although her orbicular muscles cramped a little, she was comfortable enough to start thrusting.
It is said that when a woman looses her virginity, she will keep a special bond with that man. So it happened to my girlfriend. When our session was over after a few hours and I had paid her, she was lingering to leave. I had to go to Nevsky to buy some things and she decided to come with me. So I finally ended walking hand in hand with my new 20someting girlfriend through the streets of Piter. The nice thing about Russia (well, SPB and MOS I presume) is that no one cares about it. And my last day ended with a romantic dinner with her close to the Kazan cathedral, confirming her bond and her eternal fuck bunny status. That is, for as long she stays single, or meets someone with a bigger wallet hee hee.
Strategies for finding apartment buildings
Getting into the apartment buildings is a topic that has been described extensively in this forum. Several solutions have been proposed. I developed my own 4 step strategy which I will share with the forum.
1st strategy: you understand/speak/read Russian If you speak at least average Russian, than you are a lucky bastard. You are able to communicate with the ladies and understand their directions. You have bought a detailed map of Piter in Russian which you can actually read and use and you know the Piter metro system. You are able to transliterate the station name and street name that the operator tells you (Kupchina) to Cyrillic text? That you can find in the index and on the map. You are able to find any apartment at any location, and you are in danger to meet freebees, you lucky bastard.
2nd strategy: you don't speak Russian but the operator speaks English
If you don't speak Russian but the operator speaks English, you are still a lucky bastard. You are able to communicate with the operator and understand her directions. You might have some trouble to find to the building but hiring a taxi might solve that problem. You must find a way to write the address (street name etc) phonetically on a piece of paper and find a taxi driver who understands the address, or let the driver talk to the operator with your mobile phone. You will understand local directions and will find the door, door code, floor number and apartment number. And get laid. Don’t forget to arrange a taxi to get back
3rd strategy: you don't speak Russian but another girl speaks English
See strategy 2. The unexpected problem that might show up that the girl who is guiding you might suddenly become unavailable (because she has a customer) during your travel to the apartment. Then you find yourself suddenly within a range of 100 meters from the apartment but are unable to locate it.
4th and last strategy: last resort for entering salons and apartment buildings for non-Russian speakers
When you don't speak Russian but you managed to find an apartment or salon anyway (for example via a friend or contact), then you still experience trouble to get in. There are there are two ways left:
1) Shout "meet me at street" in Russian. It's essential that you have a mobile phone and the salon phone number. Call them and say one of the following sentence (for ease of use I wrote it phonetically. Stress is on the vowels like á and ó etc.): Ya inastrányets. Ya nai gavaryú pa róóski. Ya zhdu na úlitse (I am foreigner. I don't speak Russian. I wait on street). Repeat this sentence at least three times as an answer to anything the lady says to you and hang up. If you are lucky, within 10 minutes a young woman will show up and bring you to the apartment. If no one shows up within 15 minutes, go home.
2) Wait until someone else comes out or goes in. It's essential that you know the apartment number. Especially the buildings that have a large salon like photomodeli, have much traffic going in and out. Mostly within 10-15 minutes someone will go out or come in. Just wait at the door and follow him or her and you're in. The last hurdle (the apartment door) may be a tough one to take however if the apartment operates in stealth mode.
Piter revisited: Some final observations
What I underestimated was the time to travel. Although you can travel between two metro stations within 10-45 minutes, finding the apartment takes sometimes more time than the metro journey itself. And you have to get back too. At a certain moment I found myself spending more time in Piter’s metro system and streets than in a girl’s pussy. Finally I got tired from traveling for two hours or more for a single ride and got lazy, visiting only the apartments and salons close to where I lived. As a result of that I found some of the hottest girls by repeatedly visiting the same salons. And all of them didn’t have their photo listed anywhere on the Internet.
What I liked about many girls is that they get genuinely wet after a few minutes. One of them was so wet I did not feel any friction at all. When was the last time I experienced this, 20 years ago or so? They don’t need lube. Sex was occasionally emotionless however.
Many apartment girls don’t advertise themselves. They put an enticing photo on the Internet and it’s up to you to find out who’s behind. You will hit shit, you will hit gold and you will hit platinum.
In one apartment rental company I spoke with the manager for at least one hour. During that time I saw a young woman behind a screen chatting with at least 10 different men by ICQ, MSN messenger, Mamba and so on. Probably this was part of their usual business as the manager did not care a single minute about it. I leave it to you to draw your conclusions.
I used common sense and there was not a single moment that I felt unsafe or threatened, even after dark. I followed advice of locals, I respected the girls and I was always treated politely in return. To some extent I trusted some girls more than some of those feminist nazi pigs I met too often in the US and EU.
About 1 out of 10 visits I made I saw a perfect 10! Never got a chance to screw them because they were massage girls. If I only had more time.
So after 7 days I went back with my phone full of numbers and still quite a lot of money in my wallet for my next visit. Total damage about $1, 000. Not bad at all.
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Хорошо,
Thanks for the excellent, detailed report.
It sounds as if you speak a little Russian. Is this true? Or not?
[QUOTE=Xopowo]So since I now knew the address of the previous salon, door code and apartment number, what would be easier than just go there, ring the bell and get in? Well, they barricaded the last barrier, which is the door bell. They just switched it off. Knocking on the door will not help as they won't let you in pretending that no-one is there. I was forced to go back to my apartment again and call them. Then they told me to come back and call them when I was standing in front of their apartment. So I returned, called them and they let me in. This time the choice was better and I had a super hot and slim 22yo girl for one hour.[/QUOTE]This is why it's so important to call the apartment first. Most of these places are very small and they can fill up fast. If you don't call first, you may not get in. As you discovered, even if they aren't busy, some of them won't let you in at all unless you call first.
[QUOTE]A few words have to be said about massage parlors. Although they are basically cheap (1100-1500 rubles per hour) they try to push you to more expensive programs that actually add no extra value than a fantastic name.[/QUOTE]You're right about that, a hand job is a hand job, no matter how you dress it up. Unless maybe you pay for 2 girls.
[QUOTE]4th and last strategy: last resort for entering salons and apartment buildings for non-Russian speakers
When you don't speak Russian but you managed to find an apartment or salon anyway (for example via a friend or contact), then you still experience trouble to get in. There are there are two ways left:
1) Shout "meet me at street" in Russian. It's essential that you have a mobile phone and the salon phone number. Call them and say one of the following sentence (for ease of use I wrote it phonetically. Stress is on the vowels like á and ó etc.): Ya inastrányets. Ya nai gavaryú pa róóski. Ya zhdu na úlitse (I am foreigner. I don't speak Russian. I wait on street). Repeat this sentence at least three times as an answer to anything the lady says to you and hang up. If you are lucky, within 10 minutes a young woman will show up and bring you to the apartment. If no one shows up within 15 minutes, go home.[/QUOTE]Interesting strategy, I guess necessity is the mother of invention. Did this strategy work for you?
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Greetings Strav,
1) You got my aka. Good! ;)
2) Yes I speak the lingo. I had a Russian girlfriend who left me a few years ago. She spoke zero English and I did not mind learning Russian. She was an excellent teacher and in the end Russian turned out to be less difficult than I was afraid of. Didn’t have sex with her but she repeatedly explained how things went in Piter. It hasn’t changed fundamentally since the Yellow Card in Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment. I guess she is now somewhere else counting down the days until she gets her Green Card.
3) No, I did not have to use this strategy, but I have been collected outside once because I could not get the door code working for whatever reason. However I could enter the main building more than once because someone was walking in/out or left the door open. I think there is at least one salon at Nevsky which operates more or less openly, i.e. you can ring their apartment bell without a previous phone call and the main building door is always open (the apartment door is closed of course). You are monitored on CCTV however, as is with most salons. And there is nothing like an experience to be in a narrow Russian elevator that doesn’t go lower than the second floor and stops with a loud clack from the button that you just pressed. Mechanical, yes. The first time you hear that you almost get a hart attack :)
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tourism plummets
[url]http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=28797[/url]
The above article from the SpTimes states that 80% of Russia's foreign tourists go to St.Petersburg (!!). Seems pretty high to me.
Anyway, Piter tourism officials expect a 30% drop in foreign tourism this year. Also, the national tourism spokeman expects a drop of "at least 10%". Since the Piter numbers equal 24% by themselves (ie 80% x 30%), I'm guessing "at least 10%" could go up to 30% or more?
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Help St. Petersburg
Hello,
I am going by cruise (just overnight) in SP. On June.
I need to know: name of any (also pricey but fine, and fine girls) place where to find "all-in-one" dining, choose of "pro" girls and also rooms upstairs (or downstairs! )". I don't need to book a hotel-room, cause "after" I'll go back to ship for sleep. Alternatively just 2nd and 3rd options at same place, without dining (will dine on ship or at restaurant).
Please suggest best options, just one night to spend there!
Thanks everybody!
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Help St Petersburg
Hello,
I am going by cruise in SP on June. I need to know where can I find a all-in-one place (also pricey but nice place, nice girls) for dining, choose of pro-girls, and rooms upstairs (or downstairs! ). Please suggest me just best options because I'll be there just overnight. I have not time to check by myself the best place.
Thanks everybody!
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One Night in St P - Visa issues?
[QUOTE=Beebos]Hello,
I am going by cruise (just overnight) in SP. On June.
I need to know: name of any (also pricey but fine, and fine girls) place where to find "all-in-one" dining, choose of "pro" girls and also rooms upstairs (or downstairs! )". I don't need to book a hotel-room, cause "after" I'll go back to ship for sleep. Alternatively just 2nd and 3rd options at same place, without dining (will dine on ship or at restaurant).
Thanks everybody![/QUOTE]
You might need to look into your visa situation before you settle on a plan.
Normally if you're stopping off for one night on a cruise in St P or elsewhere in Russia then you are restricted to following the pre-organised tour associated with the ship.
To do your own thing you probably need to get a separate visa for yourself through the usual channels which is another expense involving "visa support" etc.
But maybe you know all this already...
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Thanks Gergiev,
I already know this. Now I need to know how to spend time there by night.
Anybody help me?
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[QUOTE=Fijiman]Xorowo,
I've made a couple of trips to Piter in the last several months. I've been intending to post a comprehensive trip report, but haven't gotten around to it.
I've spent quite a bit of time on Mamba, and I'd advise against any hopes on that front. Many of the profiles are shameless bait-and-switch, and many of the hotties that are seeking a sponsor will see you as a short term visitor and will be not be interested.
Regarding outcalls, I'd advise against them. My experiences is that outcalls will almost always be a bait and switch, and usually a very limited menu (ie cbj, etc). You also don't have much of a recourse if you get ripped off.
By far I had the best experiences at the salons, and at the massage spas. (orchid and afrodita).
[url]http://www.afrodita-spa.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/[/url]
I had my best consistent experiences at a salon at Marata 30. Although higher end at 4000 rubles an hour, I saw 4 girls there and 3 were great, and the fourth just clearly didn't feel comfortable but still did her best.
(I expect, DFK/DATY/BBBJ/Rimmingthegirl, as a bare minimum)
As mentioned, I will post a comprehensive report on my trips soon, but I would say go to the massage places first, to take the nervousness off. At 2700 rubles for a nice erotic massage in a safe, environment with no scams, I think it is the best place to start. Orchid is the better of the two in my opinion, but Afrodita is good also.
I also had very good experiences with [url]www.mixphoto.com[/url]. If you want to to that route, then yes you would need an outcall location. But I'd say that simply ask the mixphoto folk, and I bet they could arrange somewhere for you. However I think that they charge in US Dollars, and so you won't receive the benefit of the weaker ruble.
Regards[/QUOTE]
Fijiman,
Thanks for the good report.
Do you mean that BBBJ in Orchid and Afrofita are standard?
Do all the massage types in these 2 establishments (relax, erotic or whatever) include BBBJ and FS or just BBBJ?
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[QUOTE=Gladiator]Fijiman,
Thanks for the good report.
Do you mean that BBBJ in Orchid and Afrofita are standard?
Do all the massage types in these 2 establishments (relax, erotic or whatever) include BBBJ and FS or just BBBJ?[/QUOTE]Gladiator,
Orchid and Afrodita are erotic massage with happy ending. There is no BBBJ/FS. If you want to get your dick wet, you'll need go elsewhere. The advantage of Orchid/Afrodita is that they are clean, safe and non-Russian speaking tourist friendly. The girls are attractive and the prices reasonable.
FJ
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Orchid
I had a very beautiful BBBJTC in Orchid even if I had no sex.
The place is clean and safe like a Swiss one.
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Some experiences from Pieter
I am now in St Peter for business, staying 5 days. I wanted to try the internet and for the last 2 weeks I sent a lot of messages on Mamba. There are now a lot of girls that ask for sponsorship. Even though many doesn't have it in their profile, when you ask what they look for they say sponsor! I had a list of girls to meet and had my hands full to set up a schedule. For the 3 days I have been here I have fucked 3 of them, 19, 19, and 23 years old. Typically they want to have some meeting first and look you over, then they fuck at the next meeting. One girl I put it straight forward to her that we needed a test) how we got along and she accepted that (but she needed a contribution for a new phone, USD 200! ), and we went directly to bed. She was the only one that came direct to my apt for the first meeting. The others were open for fun and see what happend, but needed dinner, wine, a bottle of perfume (I think the taxfree personal on my way to Pieter were surprised of me buying 3 bottles of perfume), so there is nothing like a free lunch or a free fuck!
I had one of them late during this afternoon and early evening. After she left I had some food and I then I wondered what to do, because one of the 19 year old was to come to my apt at midnight. I decided to spend some time (1. 5 hour) at a strip club so I went to Playgirls which is very close to my apt. In my opinion the friendliest strip club in SPB.
There were several hot girls there this night (this is not always the case), in particular one small, slim blond with small, but very nice tites, and one more mature (29 years) brunette with an amazing body, fantastic tits and a face like Angelina Jolie. I had her at my table and checked out the possibilities for tomorrow night, she said if I got there at 8 pm, I could take her out for the night. It was previously reported that it was 6000 roubles for 1 hour, but 6000 was the cost to the club for taking out for the night. She herself wanted 10 000. Anyway, at 23:45 I paid and left. In the door on the way out I got SMS from my 19 year old that she was too tired and she also must study the next day, so she cancelled. I turned on my heels, back in, went to the girl (she had started to strip) and said: come with me,. And we went.
She had an amazing body which is always a pleasure to enjoy, but the sex was mediocre, maybe the mileage was too long? But I can definitely say it is not 6000 for 1 hour!
She told me something interesting: they had noticed a large decrease in guests, this was so serious for the club that there were rumours it was going to close. It is definitely very bad if they do, Playgirls is absolutely the friendlist strip club in SPB.
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More from SPB
I am now spending the weekend with one 19 year old girl for sponsorship for USD 600. She is the hottest of the girls i met, both in looks and in bed.
I have been looking at some websites
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.kupisex.ru/saint-petersburg.html[/url]
And what I see there is a lot which is too good to be true, and then it usually is not true!
Does anybody have experience with these websites? Are they mostly fake pictures?
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Can you explain how did you get a BBBJTC? Please.
[QUOTE=Andexo]I had a very beautiful BBBJTC in Orchid even if I had no sex.
The place is clean and safe like a Swiss one.[/QUOTE]
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Yes mostly fake pictures of Playboy models, USA porn stars, czech pornstars, Met-art models, etc.
They are even using pistures of the same girl taken off the net in different profiles like this two:
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4163.html[/url]
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4443.html[/url]
Or both website using the images of the same girl (which can be for real in this case) with different name and info (but it doesn't mean this girl will be the one you're waiting) like in this case:
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4797-5.html[/url]
[url]http://www.kupisex.ru/Katyushka_89643929421_21_3_ngYAmIStra.html[/url]
Basically this two russian sites are typical russian with some 80% fake pictures.
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fake pictures!
[QUOTE=Kurenda]Yes mostly fake pictures of Playboy models, USA porn stars, czech pornstars, Met-art models, etc.
They are even using pistures of the same girl taken off the net in different profiles like this two:
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4163.html[/url]
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4443.html[/url]
Or both website using the images of the same girl (which can be for real in this case) with different name and info (but it doesn't mean this girl will be the one you're waiting) like in this case:
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/individ/view4797-5.html[/url]
[url]http://www.kupisex.ru/Katyushka_89643929421_21_3_ngYAmIStra.html[/url]
Basically this two russian sites are typical russian with some 80% fake pictures.[/QUOTE]Thanks, good information!
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Is this agency real?
Will be visiting St. Petersburg in late July.
While searching the net I found this site, petersburgescort.com.
Am hoping someone can verify if the site is legitimate.
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Wingman?
Will be in St Petersburg starting this Friday. Anyway experienced in the St Pete scene interested in meeting up and having a few drinks?
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Escort site
[QUOTE=Lukus7]Will be visiting St. Petersburg in late July.
While searching the net I found this site, petersburgescort.com.
Am hoping someone can verify if the site is legitimate.[/QUOTE]I have never used it myself, but I know guys that did and yes, they are real. But one of the most expensive in SPB, possibly not worth the money compared to what you can get other places. For the same price, if you go for the night, you can even take out a stunner from one of the more expensive strip clubs!
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Escort site
Explorer69,
Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated.
I was looking at Liza in particular ( [url]www.petersburgescort.com/gallery/liza2.html[/url] )
I'd like to find a lady to spend a few days with, exploring St. Petersburg, and since I don't speak Russian I didn't think that I would have much luck in a club.
Did you have a strip club you could recommend where the girls might be open to an extended date?
Thanks again,
lukus
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Escorts
[QUOTE=Lukus7]Explorer69,
Thanks for your help, it's much appreciated.
I was looking at Liza in particular ( [url]www.petersburgescort.com/gallery/liza2.html[/url] )
I'd like to find a lady to spend a few days with, exploring St. Petersburg, and since I don't speak Russian I didn't think that I would have much luck in a club.
Did you have a strip club you could recommend where the girls might be open to an extended date?
Thanks again,
lukus[/QUOTE]I used a few years ago this agency several times. [url]http://www.lanaescort.com/[/url]
It was actually run by some girls who themselves did escorting. Their prices were moderate and the service I had was very good and reliable. However, the agency have been in the system for some time and this often corrupts the business, so I would be a little more sceptical now. But still I would try it as my first choice and I guess the price is much lower than [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url] which usually have been the most expensive in SPB. A few of the girls at Lana's have now been in the business for very long, for instance Alice has been there as long as I viisted SPB (=since 2001-2002), so I would avoid one with such a long mileage. But it may als have some advantages with such a girl.
In strip clubs I would recommend first to try "Playgirls", there the take out price as I have experienced is 6000 roubles to the club, 10000 to the girl, which is a total of USD 500 and that is for the the night or most of the night. There are not so many girls there, not all are hot, but you can find some gems there. I had some excellent experiences there, but sometimes the quality of girls is not the best.
Second you can go to Golden Dolls, it is USD1000 total for take out all night which still is cheaper or the same price as [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url]. There are a lot of girls there, different qualities, many do not go out. The club itself is expensive and a tourist trap. But if you can make a deal quickly and you want to spend USD 1000, it is an alternative.
Girls in strip clubs are often willing to meet you outside the next day if you already made a good contact = take them out for the night. But if they are supposed to work the next evening, they go to work, because the punishment is serious if they do not come to work: have to pay club or even loose their job. So either you meet them in the afternoon or find the evening when they are free.
Hope this helps!
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Escorts
Great information, Explorer69.
Many thanks!
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Come on, no St Pete welcoming crew?
[QUOTE=Unirii]Will be in St Petersburg starting this Friday. Anyway experienced in the St Pete scene interested in meeting up and having a few drinks?[/QUOTE]
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Best time to visit salons and strip clubs?
I don't like to stay out too late. What is the earliest time when the salons and strip clubs will have a good selection of girls?
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[QUOTE=Unirii]I don't like to stay out too late.[/QUOTE]Then salons are your best bet. Best selection will be in the afternoon, from maybe 14:00 until maybe 22:00. The strip clubs don't even get started until midnight.
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Updated list for salon adress
Hi,
I will be in SP middle of July, I saw interesting report below, I would like to know if somebody have updated adress for the salon, with explanation to go there.
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[QUOTE=Acolonizer]That's interesting: Saint Petersburg seems to be a more relaxing city than Moscow and moreover it seems to be the right place to find erotic models for escort service.
I read here that [url]www.eurobabeindex.com[/url] is one of the main source to choice our favourite pornstars.
But I really become crazy when I think to meet my favourite girls from [url]www.met-art.com:[/url] could anybody help me, with information and experiences?
Of course, all good posts will be rewarded ;)
Thanxxx in advance.[/QUOTE]Many girls from eurobabeindex.com from St. Petersburg (search "russia"), many content shoots in St. Petersburg. Some girls available for "privat shoots". But only shoots, no escort. Its paradox.
I talk about girls who do bg hardxore, softcore girls not do it. With softcore girl you can only make softcore photosession. If you really interest shoots with this models- ask me, may be I can help you.
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[QUOTE=Loso69]This is another porn star (with contact info):
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi6734.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/karolina.html[/url]
Don't know if the ad is real or fake, though.
Loso[/QUOTE]A few pics from rusdosug make my husband for pay sites. Sure this fake, because I know this girl. She in Moscow now, have boyfriend and small baby.
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Short salon report
Been staying with friends in SpB so haven't mongered much but here is what I have to offer:
(1) Staying with friends sucks. Just get your own apartment. Hotels are expensive.
(2) Staying on one of the islands in the city sucks, the bridges stop working for a few hours every night and that can make it difficult to get to and from the mainland where most of the action is late at night.
The salon scene is definitely not designed for foreigners and it can be difficult to locate places and get in the door if you don't speak Russian. I did go to two salons:
(1) Photo Modeli, Kamin 2, #24 Kamennoostrovski St. Apt 79, near Petrgrad metro
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/[/url]
3000 rubles for one hour. Went about 1am on a Sunday night. 8 Girls to choose from, high quality. No kissing, no pussy touching, no BBBJ, mechanical sex.
(2) Dominio Girls, Bolshoi Prospect #77, 6th floor, near Petrograd metro
[url]http://www.dominogirls.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.dominogirls.org/putans/345.html[/url]
Kira has gained a little weight since this photo. She looked ok but not great.
Went about 1am on a Saturday night.
2500 rubles for one hour. 7 girls to choose from. Medium quality. No kissing, no pussy touching, no BBBJ, good sex but awful room.
I called the english language phone number but got no answer.
A very useful website for getting the exact street address of the salon. With this and a map you can at least get to their doorstep and call them to get them to come downstairs.
International Sex Address & Waypoint Database:
[url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_spb.html[/url]
Overall I am not impressed with the quality of the girls (looks) or the service (no kissing, BBBJ, etc...). What is my best bet for better quality, incall only?
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Play Girls Q
[QUOTE=Explorer69]I am now in St Peter for business, staying 5 days. I wanted to try the internet and for the last 2 weeks I sent a lot of messages on Mamba. There are now a lot of girls that ask for sponsorship. Even though many doesn't have it in their profile, when you ask what they look for they say sponsor! I had a list of girls to meet and had my hands full to set up a schedule. For the 3 days I have been here I have fucked 3 of them, 19, 19, and 23 years old. Typically they want to have some meeting first and look you over, then they fuck at the next meeting. One girl I put it straight forward to her that we needed a test) how we got along and she accepted that (but she needed a contribution for a new phone, USD 200! ), and we went directly to bed. She was the only one that came direct to my apt for the first meeting. The others were open for fun and see what happend, but needed dinner, wine, a bottle of perfume (I think the taxfree personal on my way to Pieter were surprised of me buying 3 bottles of perfume), so there is nothing like a free lunch or a free fuck!
I had one of them late during this afternoon and early evening. After she left I had some food and I then I wondered what to do, because one of the 19 year old was to come to my apt at midnight. I decided to spend some time (1. 5 hour) at a strip club so I went to Playgirls which is very close to my apt. In my opinion the friendliest strip club in SPB.
There were several hot girls there this night (this is not always the case), in particular one small, slim blond with small, but very nice tites, and one more mature (29 years) brunette with an amazing body, fantastic tits and a face like Angelina Jolie. I had her at my table and checked out the possibilities for tomorrow night, she said if I got there at 8 pm, I could take her out for the night. It was previously reported that it was 6000 roubles for 1 hour, but 6000 was the cost to the club for taking out for the night. She herself wanted 10 000. Anyway, at 23:45 I paid and left. In the door on the way out I got SMS from my 19 year old that she was too tired and she also must study the next day, so she cancelled. I turned on my heels, back in, went to the girl (she had started to strip) and said: come with me,. And we went.
She had an amazing body which is always a pleasure to enjoy, but the sex was mediocre, maybe the mileage was too long? But I can definitely say it is not 6000 for 1 hour!
She told me something interesting: they had noticed a large decrease in guests, this was so serious for the club that there were rumours it was going to close. It is definitely very bad if they do, Playgirls is absolutely the friendlist strip club in SPB.[/QUOTE]Hello,
I read your excellent repport.
I will visit St Pietersburg in a few weeks and have some wondering about play girls. "face like Angelina Jolie" sounds interesting, did she say her real name or fake name?
How long did she stay? . Total price? Servecis: BBBJ. Or? Are all the girls at PG available? Do they speak english well? (english is not my native language neither)
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Playgirls
[QUOTE=Hummer44]Hello,
I read your excellent repport.
I will visit St Pietersburg in a few weeks and have some wondering about play girls. "face like Angelina Jolie" sounds interesting, did she say her real name or fake name?
How long did she stay? . Total price? Servecis: BBBJ. Or? Are all the girls at PG available? Do they speak english well? (english is not my native language neither)[/QUOTE]Total price: 6000 + 10000 roubles.
Stayed till 5 am.
BBbj yes
Only some girls are available, those that want it. But my feeling is that most are available.
English varied from girl to girl, but most of them knew some English.
Lots of luck!
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Orchard Massage Spa
I went to the Orchard massage place ([url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/eng/index.php[/url]) on a weekend afternoon.
Girls at the reception do speak english, which is nice. To choose a girl for services, you don't get to see them in person, just look at photos. There were 5 girls available when I went and more working that were already busy. The girls available were ok but not fantastic (I am pretty picky). Chose the best looking one for a one hour erotic massage (2800 rubles). Service was good enough and hand job to completion. Nothing else.
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Second time is a charm
I revisited Photo Modeli, Kamin 2, #24 Kamennoostrovski St. Apt 79 [url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/[/url]
On a Sunday afternnon and had much better experience than last time. Excellent selection of 8 girls. All of them very fuckable.
Chose Jena, a 22yo little minx with a very sexy skirt. One hour, 3000 rubles, DFK, deep fingering, great sex.
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Pg
[QUOTE=Explorer69]Total price: 6000 + 10000 roubles.
Stayed till 5 am.
BBbj yes
Only some girls are available, those that want it. But my feeling is that most are available.
English varied from girl to girl, but most of them knew some English.
Lots of luck![/QUOTE]Explorer69, thanks
Was the BBBJ on request or?
Does it mean no BBBJCIM, DFK, finger, or any other extra?
Did the 19 y.o. girl at P.G. have another attitude? I mean, does differet milage, age means different servecis?
I have a few addresses to photomodelli, do you think these are less bang for the buck although they are cheaper?
I have also heard about a place called “marstall” , and some girls charge 150 dollar/euro, dont know the time though.
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[QUOTE=Hummer44]Explorer69, thanks
Was the BBBJ on request or?
Does it mean no BBBJCIM, DFK, finger, or any other extra?
Did the 19 y.o. girl at P.G. have another attitude? I mean, does differet milage, age means different servecis?
I have a few addresses to photomodelli, do you think these are less bang for the buck although they are cheaper?
I have also heard about a place called “marstall” , and some girls charge 150 dollar/euro, dont know the time though.[/QUOTE]Honestly, now i don't remmeber all details.
But strippers in general do fuck less than those in salons. Unless the milage is very long, my experienc eis that depending how much they like you and how much they orgasm, they loosen up and in the end it may be like real love. But you nevre know. It depends a lot how you click!
Salons are god, but there you always pay for the specific time. I usually prefer longer meetings: several hours and in my apartment.
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Escorts
Hi!
Have any of you heard about any of these independient escorts:
[url]http://www.sophiescort.com/[/url]
[url]http://vera-escort.narod.ru/[/url]
Do you know about any good place to find independient escorts in St. Piter?
Thank you
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Lena really does arrange photo and video shoots with real porn stars; shoots where you can be the male actor, have sex with a porn star, and take home the video or photos. Lena has been the manager of Mixphoto for years. You can see her models online at mixphoto dot com.
I don't know why anyone bothers with the salons when this is available. I sure don't. They aren't much cheaper.
Anyone who wants to know more about it who hasn't already seen my posts on this should look for "Mixphoto—How to be a Porn Star", which I posted on 09-30-06 at 21:47.
I hope that anyone who tries it will post some pictures.
[QUOTE=Elena Exbi]Many girls from eurobabeindex.com from St. Petersburg (search "russia"), many content shoots in St. Petersburg. Some girls available for "privat shoots". But only shoots, no escort. Its paradox.
I talk about girls who do bg hardxore, softcore girls not do it. With softcore girl you can only make softcore photosession. If you really interest shoots with this models- ask me, may be I can help you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Albastrus Fru]Hi!
Have any of you heard about any of these independient escorts:
[url]http://www.sophiescort.com/[/url]
[url]http://vera-escort.narod.ru/[/url]
Do you know about any good place to find independient escorts in St. Piter?
Thank you[/QUOTE]Sophie I fucked maybe 2 years ago when she still was a semipro. She was at that time a nice, interesting, clever girl. Her sexual competence was average and she was much cheaper than what she is today!!
Vera I tried to call several times, usually never had an answer, once I had an answer, but she disconnected after I had spoken 5 words.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]Honestly, now i don't remmeber all details.
But strippers in general do fuck less than those in salons. Unless the milage is very long, my experienc eis that depending how much they like you and how much they orgasm, they loosen up and in the end it may be like real love. But you nevre know. It depends a lot how you click!
Salons are god, but there you always pay for the specific time. I usually prefer longer meetings: several hours and in my apartment.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, me and my friend have not decided if we are going to saint pietersburg on weekdays or for a weekwend. What is your experience? Is the numbers of girls better on some days than other. You mentioned there is not alwas hot girls on PG. Is it random or would you recommend some days before other?
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My experience is that there are the same number of girls working at the Salon throughout the week but less customers on the weekdays so more of the girls are likely to be "available" when you arrive.
[QUOTE=Hummer44]Thanks again, me and my friend have not decided if we are going to saint pietersburg on weekdays or for a weekwend. What is your experience? Is the numbers of girls better on some days than other. You mentioned there is not alwas hot girls on PG. Is it random or would you recommend some days before other?[/QUOTE]
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weekdays?
[QUOTE=Hummer44]Thanks again, me and my friend have not decided if we are going to saint pietersburg on weekdays or for a weekwend. What is your experience? Is the numbers of girls better on some days than other. You mentioned there is not alwas hot girls on PG. Is it random or would you recommend some days before other?[/QUOTE]My experience is not large enough to say some days are better than others. But check out PG, it only costs you entrance and a drink:)). And you can watch some strip:))
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St Pet report
After spending time to browse this forum, I would like to give you my feedback after my week, (I come back yesterday) in SP.
Mamba. Ru site
Before travel, I took many contact with girls and got some numbers; but in SP, nobody answers to my sms, or message on the site: then I do not advice you this way
Marstall Bar:
I was on Thursday evening: very poor quality in girl comparing what you can see in ths street. But maybe another evening it is better.
Salon report,
I visit 5 salons: price for one hour between 2000 to 3000 rubles.
Usually 2500.
-Nevsky Prop 63, code door 9, floor 4, door on the left.
First time on Thursday evening near 22pm: around 10 girls, not bad.
I took one but she was not good second time on afternoon: near 14 pm: middle quality, only 3 girls to choose and it was middle quality service.
-Nevsky prosp 95, code 19b, floor 4, door 19, on the left at 14 pm, around 7 girls: I take Sasha very good!
-Marata 22; dedicated interphone (apt number 6) floor 4 apt 6, door on the left tel 914-01-03.
At 15pm: only 3 girls but Lola was excellent.
The other time I took one, but she have bad mood and not good service.
-Gorokhovskaya 46, floor 3; 946 20 46.
At 15pm: only 3 girls but one very good! Elena +79216451503
-Italianskaya 21- 972 32 02 at 16 pm: 4 girls; one correct, floor 3 (as I remember), but call to ask.
My conclusions about salon.
In 3 cases the service was classic but excellent: long blowjob with comdom, massage cool, good sex with kiss.
In 2 cases it was very low: girl was good look but not good service and look not happy in 2 others case it was middle, classic sex, but ok.
Beauty of the girls is heterogen, but my experience lead me to choose FIRST a girl who look smiling or with good mood! Rather that the best look.
Salon is a cool place and I wish one time we will have the same in France, as it was before in the Bordel or maison close.
I hope you will appreciate my information and enjoy your stay in SP.
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[QUOTE=Big Jacques]Mamba. Ru site
Before travel, I took many contact with girls and got some numbers; but in SP, nobody answers to my sms, or message on the site: then I do not advice you this way[/QUOTE]If you dont speak fluently russian, the site is not very useful.
[QUOTE=Big Jacques]Marstall Bar:
I was on Thursday evening: very poor quality in girl comparing what you can see in ths street. But maybe another evening it is better.[/QUOTE]Friday is probably the best night to be lucky to find a good looking but expensive girl (200-300 EUR).
[QUOTE=Big Jacques]Salon report,
I visit 5 salons: price for one hour between 2000 to 3000 rubles.[/QUOTE]If you dont speak russian fluently, then girls are hard to catch nowdays in spb, so salons are probably the best choice for short trips ;)
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Saint P May 2009
Finally getting around to report briefly on trip to Saint P. 3rd trip 1st time able to play. Researched using ISG and Mamba. Had lots of contacts from Mamba before arriving. Went to one place near NevP. Good service but not the person in the Mamba photo. Tried to make sure the next evening that the person was the person in the photo. Found that if you press the point by saying you'll bring a copy of the photo and won't pay if the person doesn't match. It's no deal! So be ware! Found a nice 'walker' on NevP, wasn't expecting to find someone but tried my luck. Gave her the eye as I wlked past. She immediately swung around and spoke in Russian. I replied in English. Walked side by side for a block chatting then I just asked how much. She looked surprised but we soon were negotiating. Ended agreeing $100us for 2 hours in my hotel room which was nearby. Lovely body. Small be cups white as snow reasonably active and attentive. She had to leave after the 2 hours. Lives on the island and the draw bridge closes after 1 am. Got her phone number. She would ahve stayed if I'd pressed the point I think. Will save for the next visit. I think the offer of a nice dinner might convert to a free evening! Summary. Do your homework. Don't rely on the Mamba photos.
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Spa Recommendations.
I will be in SPB for a week in October. I am looking for a spa that gives a good massage and a HJ or preferably a BJ. I saw the websites for Orchid and Aphrodite. But I was looking for something a little less expensive.
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Anybody else notice that Photomodeli is offering an "express" rate, 30 minutes for about 1600 rubles ($50)? :)
Edit: as low as 1100 rubles in some.. :)
[url]http://www.photomodeli.ru/?action=girl&do=1&id=8[/url]
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Anybody else notice that Photomodeli is offering an "express" rate, 30 minutes for about 1600 rubles ($50)? :) ....[/QUOTE]
Thanks Doc, I did not notice. Maybe soon it will be as some privat in Bratislava, that has not only 30 minutes but also "rychlovka" 15 minutes LOL
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Nice double act - where
On my last trip to SPB I visited the 2 mentioned massage parlors and was totally not impressed. The picture you got to choose from did in fact not match the girls and the massage itself was of medium quality. I had so much better in Germany, Holland, Bucharest, Kiev that I will not want to try this again.
What I am looking for now are two options; a good place for freebees on a Wednesday evening. My russia is reasonable, so I can make contact.
You specialists have an idea? Students, young proffesionals with not enough money, that kind of thing? Tips can be rewarded with countertips in other cities.
Or a nice place (privat) were the quality is high and GFE can be expected!
Thanks for all tips
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Rossi's
[QUOTE=Mattjohnson]On my last trip to SPB I visited the 2 mentioned massage parlors and was totally not impressed. The picture you got to choose from did in fact not match the girls and the massage itself was of medium quality. I had so much better in Germany, Holland, Bucharest, Kiev that I will not want to try this again.
What I am looking for now are two options; a good place for freebees on a Wednesday evening. My russia is reasonable, so I can make contact.
You specialists have an idea? Students, young proffesionals with not enough money, that kind of thing? Tips can be rewarded with countertips in other cities.
Or a nice place (privat) were the quality is high and GFE can be expected!
Thanks for all tips[/QUOTE]
Rossi's has plenty of available student type girls available on Thursday nights. [url]http://www.rossis.ru/[/url]
Not sure about Wednesday tho.
Good pub not far away off Nevsky called "The Office". British style pub with lots of good looking ladies. Nice place - interesting crowd. Good after work hang out. Lots of well dressed secretaries. Perhaps can be talked into a "indecent proposal" ala Doctor Skank style. ;)
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Thanks Jake993, I will report my findings after this short SPB trip.
THis is a great forum!
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Someone is there in san petersburg 11-27 september I come alone I would like to know someone for go togethere sometimes in the club.
There is same place like River Palace (Kiev) in San Petersburg?
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In my first trip to this great city, I made a couple of rookie mistakes. First, I was under the impression the apartment I rented came with a computer, but it did not. Internet was available, but only if I had my own computer. I was planning to do some on-site research but I had to reply on the internet cafe. Call me shy, but I just do not like surfing for sex sites when there are gorgeous babes sitting next to me.
I did get some numbers, but many would just hang up when i spoke english. Eventually I got someone who spoke english, but the ones they sent me were not what they promised. 30ish not early 20s. Luckily for me, I did not really know the address, so I had to meet them outside, and I turned them down quickly. One hour later they call me again with another girl, who has MUCH better. However, the security goon came all the way to my apartment and then the girls checked if I was alone in my apartment before asking me to PAY HIM. I did not like it, and told them to go away.
I met a few non-pros. As usual, some just wanted an expensive date; others were more honest but there was no connection.
The city's greatest attraction is not in any museum, it is the thousands of gorgeous women who fill the streets all day. The are dressed in elegant mini-dresses, have long smooth legs and love their high heels. I was in heaven.
At Rossi's bar there were MANY delicious babes, but it was tough to make a connection without Russian. I talked to a bimbo who spoke english, 30ish, hot as hell, and a total *****. She claimed to live in Florida (showed me her driver's license) and proudly pointed out that she did not work and just had a sugar daddy. She was just visiting SPB, and wanted 300 Euro for the time. I do not think so!
My best luck was approaching babes on the street. Even if they are not
pros, if they know SOME english, they may agree to have a drink with you. Then, it is up to you. I was also approached by 2 pros (they checked my shoes, likes they usually do, and their opening line was that my shoelaces were untied). Anyway they were a little older than I liked, but gorgeous. we went for a drink and then went to buy a bottle of wine before heading to my apartment, all for 500o rubles + wine plus drinks.
The best was a chance meeting with a couple of YOUNG babes, about 18, dressed in their sexy outfits, just walking around. I sat near them just to take a break from walking and they sort of started talking to me. They were going to some party, but the cuter one gave me her phone number. i called her later in the evening, and she came over after her party. She wanted a "gift" of 4000 rubles, and said she only had a couple of hours (the old bridge excuse). Hell, she was PERFECT! I would have given her 10000. Anyway, luckily she ended up staying all night, and I hope to see her again next time I go.
I summary, about 5 dates with non-pros, a double with two older pros (late 20s probably) and one night with the sweetest 18 year old russian cutie I have ever known. I will reiterate, however, the BEST thing about the city is the gorgeous babes littering the streets.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Rossi's has plenty of available student type girls available on Thursday nights. [url]http://www.rossis.ru/[/url]
Not sure about Wednesday tho.
Good pub not far away off Nevsky called "The Office". British style pub with lots of good looking ladies. Nice place - interesting crowd. Good after work hang out. Lots of well dressed secretaries. Perhaps can be talked into a "indecent proposal" ala Doctor Skank style. ;)[/QUOTE]Where is this "the office" place exactly?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Stevie69]Where is this "the office" place exactly?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The Office
5 Kazanskaya Pl.
Tel: + 7 (812) 571 54 28
Welcome!
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[QUOTE=Surcher]The Office
5 Kazanskaya Pl.
Tel: + 7 (812) 571 54 28
Welcome![/QUOTE]
Look for the sign
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Info about tel. in Saint-Petersburg.
Phones from SPb newspaper:
+7-812-9744458
+7-812-9820932 Anja
+7-952-3933068 Elena
+7-812-9297037
+7-911-0117578
+7-812-9282294
+7-812-9329344
+7-812-7151822
+7-906-2450981 Sveta
+7-812-938-1581
+7-812-9280553
+7-812-9733073
+7-911-7882293
+7-812-9751295
+7-812-9720884
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Last week I was in Spb and stayed in Corinthia Nevsky Hotel. Great hotel and location. Many dveys on the street. I went to Tribunal Bar on Thursday. Place was dead. Only thing to consider was the dancing girls, one was a cutie blonde. No working girls. There were 2 girls on the bar in the hotel, both was over 30. I checked Decadance on Saturday and Sunday, both nights the bar was closed. Went to Golden Dolls. A striptease club for especially tourists. Did not like the place cause girls were really pushy. They always force you for a special show and do not leave you without a 100 ruble. But there were some 9-10's. Two guys took out 2 ladies and I think girls do outcall. When I asked a stripper, she told it is 1000$ for all night and I refused. Show was great.
The city is magnificient but the only option for mongering is to go to a salon but really hard to find for people like me (no Russian).
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Great Girl Friendly Hotel
I was in St Petersburg last week for 3 days (and Moscow for another 3 days).
I completely disregarded any thoughts of p4p in Russia or even trying to pursue freebies..after 5 years in Thailand and now living in Beijing the prices just seemed astronomical and i can get Russian girls in Beijing or Bangkok for a third of the price...weird isnt it...go figure.
Anyway in St Petersburg i stayed at COMFORT HOTEL. It is around $100 per night, is quite nice and is perfectly located for sightseeing as it is only 3 minutes walk from The Hermitage. The set up of the hotel makes it very girl friendly...the rooms are completely seperate to the reception and so when going to your room you completely by pass the reception area...really this place would be ideal for bringing girls to...direct street access and no security either (but safe).
Hope this helps
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[QUOTE=Hakan Demir]Last week I was in Spb and stayed in Corinthia Nevsky Hotel. Great hotel and location. Many dveys on the street. I went to Tribunal Bar on Thursday. Place was dead. Only thing to consider was the dancing girls, one was a cutie blonde. No working girls. There were 2 girls on the bar in the hotel, both was over 30. I checked Decadance on Saturday and Sunday, both nights the bar was closed. Went to Golden Dolls. A striptease club for especially tourists. Did not like the place cause girls were really pushy. They always force you for a special show and do not leave you without a 100 ruble. But there were some 9-10's. Two guys took out 2 ladies and I think girls do outcall. When I asked a stripper, she told it is 1000$ for all night and I refused. Show was great.
The city is magnificient but the only option for mongering is to go to a salon but really hard to find for people like me (no Russian).[/QUOTE]Marstalls has a lot of pros (the bar by the Church of the Blood).
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Rookie in Saint Petersburg
Hello all,
I have a last minute trip to SpB, have never been. Trying to use googlemaps to figure out which photomodeli is closest to my hotel but there must be something "lost in translation." Am staying at 27 Kryukov Canal Embankment (Aleksander's House). Can anyone help? Also, if there are bars close by I should try for the talent. Or really any other thoughts. I would love to have them. My Russian is only good enough for a couple of exchanges.
Thanks in advance!
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Another rookie ?
So I see a lot of salons and even outcall internet sites.
Can I assume that multiple pops are allowed, especially with the two hour options?
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Thanks Doc, you are the Master.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Marstalls has a lot of pros (the bar by the Church of the Blood).[/QUOTE]
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Marstall
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Marstalls has a lot of pros (the bar by the Church of the Blood).[/QUOTE]This place was great 5 years ago, but recently it has been going downhill. I haven't been there for 1-2 years, I had given it up. Has it improved?
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]This place was great 5 years ago, but recently it has been going downhill. I haven't been there for 1-2 years, I had given it up. Has it improved?[/QUOTE]Not really, but pros in Marstall are unreasonably expensive!
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Hello
Where I can find girl that do fine blowjob in Peterburg?
Thanks.
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Photomodeli Salons
Third time is the "charm" - my third visit to Piter and I finally figured out how to use the salons. Too bad I did not know what I know now on my previous trips.
Forget about the strip clubs, forget about the pros working the hotels such as Corinthia. Sorry to repeat information already posted in forum...here may be some additional info:
First of all -make sure you have mobile with local SIM card - the Photomodeli English number (812) 708 9117 works very well - the operators speak English and are always ready to help out...24 hour service.
By the way, to the age listed on the Photmodeli detail pages, I would add on the average 3 to 5 year...or more.....
I had a 20yr, 22, 23, and 27.
Some salons I visited:
Nevsky Prospect 63 - Door code 9 - Floor 4 - Door #9
Nevsky Prospect 95 - Door Code 19 - Floor 4 - Door 19 - the door is not from Nevsky - you have to enter the courtyard and it is the first door that is facing you on the right as you enter the courtyard. Here is where the English operator really helped out.
Marata 22 - to the right of the main door code box is a separate box - press # 6 - Floor 4 - Apartment
Marata 73 - Door Code 1B - Floor 2 - Apartment 1 - I did not like the line up here ( 15:00 one afternoon) and walked out.
Vladimirskyi Pr #8 - Door code 8 - Room 8
In general the girls come in all size and shapes. if you do not like the line up, you can just walk out.
I did listen to the forum recommendation to watch for the girl that smiles at you. Generally I did well with these choices. Number of times, girls came in street clothes ( these are there just to make a fast buck ) - you may be lucky - I was not selecting one of these.
If you like one on their website, call the English number and if available she comes withing 30 minutes or so.
Facilies are generally quite clean and you can take shower before and after.
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Photomodeli Nevsky 95
It appears the Photomodeli Nevsky 95 closed down - no longer shown on their site and many of the girls, originally at this location, are shown in the other salons.
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Gotika Strip Club Review Oct 08
While in St.Petersburg last year in October, I had an unfortunate experience at one of the strip clubs. This will be a long post, but somewhat entertaining and educational I think. I should have posted it a long time ago, but as you can see it is a somewhat embarrassing of every mistake that a newbie can make, and I guess I was a little sheepish in admitting it publicly.
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Backstory
It was my first trip to Russia, and the first few days had been a disappointing experience. Although I had enjoyed a great POV porn shoot with mixphoto.com, my experience with the pros/semipros had been very disappointing. (the pro from Mamba.ru and the semi pro from Magrib).
I ventured out on a Saturday to Club Lodovic after it was recommended on the forum and confirmed by a local I met at an internet bar. In hindsight it was not really a suitable bar for a foreigner with limited Russian, but I had a good time (albeit without making any progress whatsoever with any freebies or semi pros).
At approx 4am I took a gypsy taxi back to my Oksanas apartment on Nevsky. It was next to a strip club named Gotika, and there were always marketing guys outside trying to aggressively hustle any foreigner (single man?) inside, and tonight was no exception.
I was in a crappy mood after my various experiences with different types of Russian sex worker con artists, but I was also horny and I decided to go in and check it out.
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Entering Gotika
The bar was downstairs, a basement type bar, and I had to get buzzed in through one of the typical Russian heavy steel doors. Entrance was 600 rubles(!), and included a coat check.
As I entered the small club (seating for 50 max), it was pretty empty. There were quite a number of girls, and after I ordered a simple Perrier (I had already drunk plenty that night) I was treated to various aggressive sales pitches. Although the prices were absurd (10k ruble for a two girls massage/lesbian 30 min in a private room), I was horny. Eventually I settled on a lean cute girl for 6k rubles 30 min private room massage.
The massage was good, and of course was nude and included the typical erotic elements and happy ended. However we ran late, and thus the hostess was banging on the door at the end and hustled the girl out before I could get her cell # (my ulterior motive in paying the high rate)
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The price dispute
After quickly cleaning up, I headed back into the lounge and sat down to nurse the slim remnants of my Perrier in the hopes that my girl might come over. Moments later she did, but no sooner did she sit down then the hostess lasered over and suggested I buy the girl a cocktail and chocolates.
I knew this would be some extortionate price, but I was so frustrated after my first few days and after a crappy night I didn’t want to leave without this girl’s #. I asked how much and was told 1200 rubles (brutal!). Yet I wanted my 5 minutes with the girl to get her # so I said yes. I made small talk until the hostess came back moments later with some tiny brown cow type drink and a 3-pack of Ferraro Rocher chocolates. The hostess then gives me a bill for 1500 rubles(!).
“Wait a second”, says I, “you said 1200 rubles”.
“Yes, I was wrong, it’s 1500 rubles” she replied unconcernedly.
“Well I’m not paying 1500, I’ll pay 1200 or you can take it back!”. (…after 3 days of getting ripped off, I had finally decided to grow a pair…lol…)
“No, you pay 1500 rubles!”
“Not a chance, I’ll pay 1200 or I leave”
“No, you pay 1500 rubles!”
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I try to leave
“Ok, then I’m leaving!!”, says I as I get up and head for the door.
“No, you pay 1500 rubles!!”, says she as she follows right behind me.
I hand in my coat check ticket to the confused doorman as the hostess natters away at him in Russian. But when I turn to leave and tug on the handle to the big metal door leading outside, it doesn’t budge!! Uh-oh, now I remember that I had to get buzzed in – surely I don’t need to get buzzed out do I??
As I turn back to face the doorman and hostess, the snide smile of victory in the eyes of the hostess confirms my fear. I’m not going anywhere until they buzz me out.
“You pay 1500 rubles!!”, she announces confidently.
“Not a chance.”, I reply with a firm confidence in my voice in stark contrast to the sinking feeling in my stomach.
And thus begins a 90 minute standoff. Yes, they kept me there for 90 minutes. No exaggeration on the time.
First thing I did was make a big show of texting a friend to tell them what was happening (of course, I had no-one to text, but I figures they didn’t know that).
While the confused young doorman kept an eye on me (and my dancer girl hovered in the background looking guilty, god bless her), the hostess went and got the manager. Meanwhile I took a Gandhi-esque non-violent approach to the situation and simply stared at the wall and tried to zen out.
I was in a small almost cavelike doorway, a couple of steps up from the main floor area, and thus I had the high ground, and also no-one could enter/exit the bar with me there. I figured they would eventually have to open the door to let other patrons out (by now it was close to their 6am closing).
As you can imagine, my Gandhi demeanour was a source of great amusement to the hostess/doorman and the manager (who had now arrived). They would joke in Russian, and then come up and snap their fingers in front of my eyes, etc. Every so often I would calmly advise them they were simply getting into more trouble the longer they detained me as I intended to go to the police. This provoked cackles of laughter in response.
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The Small Waitress
After about an hour they seemed to grow tired of this game. The few other customer (only 2 or 3), had left by some other exit. They sent over this small waitress I had seen earlier, and she shifted gears on the tone by screaming very aggressively at me in Russian and trying to drag me away from the door. I couldn’t understand why they sent such a small girl (maybe 100lbs) and figured maybe they were trying to provoke me into hitting her so they could have an excuse to beat me.
While she was trying to drag me away from the door, the doorman (a young guy who seemed slightly confused throughout the standoff) came forward on my other side and tried to drag me away at the same time.
If they had wanted to they certainly could have pulled me away (I’m not a big guy), but then they suddenly stopped and the small waitress went back into the bar and we resumed our standoff.
It was only later that I understood what had truly happened.
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The Settlement
By this stage my principled stand was seeming like not such a good idea, and I was becoming somewhat concerned. It was now 6:30am and I was tired and was looking for some facesaving way out of this. Perhaps the hostess and company felt the same, as she said “Ok, I made a mistake, you pay 1200 rubles and you go”. Although I would be paying the 1200 rubles for nothing, I agreed, except that I realized that I had only 200 rubles left, and the reset in $US. So I gave her the 200 rubles and $40 USD (the fx rate was 25/1, thus equally 1000 rubles).
She takes the money, hands it to the manager, then tells me they only give 20/1 FX rate, and thus I owe her another 200 rubles! Lol. What a *****. Unreal.
Since I had only US $20 bills, I make her promise me upon her honour as a Russian that if I give her a $20, she will give me my change. She agrees, I give her the $20, and then she laughs and buzzes the door and tells me to leave. “What about my change?? You promised on your honour as a Russian!!”, to which she just laughs.
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The secret of the small waitress
I exit through the steel door to the jeers behind of the hostess and manager and climb the stairs to ground level, happy to escape serious harm. But then I blinding realization hits me!!!
Small waitress=small hands!!!
My hands dart to my inside coat pocket, and sure enough it is missing! No…not my wallet which was elsewhere…no, it was my passport that was missing.
My guess is they were going for my wallet, got the passport, and figured it was even better.
At this point I become filled with self righteous fury. I am a tourist Sword of Damocles and vengeance shall be mine I think to myself…lol…
I rush up to the first person I see on Nevsky and in my broken Russian I ask them how to find a police officer. He looks at me as if I just asked him to join me in a satanic ritual and hurries away. The next person responds similarly. Hmmm…thinks I…this will be more difficult than I thought.
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The Taxi Driver
There is a youngish taxi driver parked there, and I go up to him and ask the same thing. Fortunately he speaks a little English, and since I am now sitting in his cab I guess he doesn’t feel like he can escape the situation. I explain what happened, and he mutters “Gotika banditos! You understand? Banditos!!”.
He tells me to follow him, and we go back to the Gotika metal door. He presses the intercom buzzer and the hostess (*****!) answers, and they have a brief conversation in Russian. He then tells me to follow him, and as we walk away he tell me that yes, they have the passport and they will give it back to me the next evening when they open at 9pm, providing I pay some undetermined amount.
At this point I am apoplectic, and determined to get a police office. I tell him that I will pay him $100 us if he can get me face to face with a police office.
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The Russian 911
I now understand that there is a police emergency # for tourists, but at the time I didn’t know this. So we march across the street to the Corinthian Hotel (5 star, very nice). The taxi driver talks at length with the reception staff and manager, and they telephone various numbers, talk in Russian, telephone various numbers, stand in silence, and then telephone various other numbers. A strange and bizarre process.
Eventually the taxi driver tells me we have to go directly to the local police station, and off we go in his cab. Five minutes later we arrive, park, and after getting buzzed in through another big metal door we are facing the night watch officer, who sits within a cloud of cigarette smoke on the other side of bullet proof glass.
The Taxi driver deferentially explains the situation, and the bullnecked chain smoking police officer responds to this developing political incident (my opinion lol) by cocking his head to the side, slightly furrowing his brow, and otherwise remaining motionless for what seems like an eternity. I felt like I was in some sort of time warp which had frozen time.
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Police Action at last!
Eventually he picks up a phone and issues some commands, and moments later (ok, 5 minutes later), a monstrously large police office lumbers out from the back. He asks me for some proof that I had been at Gotika, and to my great relief I realize that I still have the receipts for my 600 rubles entrance, my 6k rubles massage, and my Perrier.
The beat cop nods his head and and we follow him outside. There waiting for us is some crappy unmarked lada with an older non-uniformed office (detective?) behind the wheel. They motion me to get in the back and we head off to Gotika (my Taxi driver following along behind us).
We arrive at Gotika, trundle down the steps, and the non-uniformed office buzzes the intercom. The door quickly unlocks and as we walk in, the manager (somewhat ashen faced) is there waiting for us. A Russian conversation follows, and I would translate it as various shades of…
“why the fuck are you lifting passports!!” says the cop,
“officer, I am a church going chistrian who would do no such thing, an by the way you are a big, powerful and very handsome man…may I offer one of my girls to give you a blowjob?”, says the manager.
During this conversation, various girls (still there for some reason at 8am?) would nervously scurry past with eyes downcast and leave.
After 10 minutes, the offices turn to leave, along with me and the manager (ha! fucker!). We head to the parked police car, and to my immense displeasure I realize that I will have to share the back seat of with the manager (side note: the next day, I found 2 $20 bills in my left jacket pocket – I presume the manager slipped them there while we were in the cab)
We head back to the police station (Taxi driver following along behind), and they motion me to sit in the waiting room as they take the manager in to the back area. The Taxi driver winks and makes punching gestures.
We wait for a while, and then the Taxi driver asks for his money so he can go. I pay him his $100, and he goes to tell the desk sergeant he wants to leave. The desk sergeant calls someone, presumably the beat cop who emerges from the back a few moments later. He speaks with the Taxi driver who then comes offer and tells me that a donation of $50 for the beat cop would be appreciated. I pony up the cash, he heads back to the beat cop who sees me looking at him, and they move briefly out of sight for the handoff of the payoff, afterwhich the Taxi driver heads out.
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The Translator
I go back to my seat in the waiting room, and a while later another detective comes to tell me that they can’t take me statement until they have a translator present. I speak with the translator on the phone (a charming lady who sounds like a british Dr.Ruth) and we book an appointment for 4pm that day (it is now 10am, and I have not yet slept).
The new detective then drives me back to my apartment (a classy move, and much appreciated)
I return at 4pm and give my statement via the translator, who also looks like Dr Ruth. She is apparently a 20+ year veteran of the police dept, a detective, and is assigned to tourist related matters.
After I give my statement they tell me that after extensive interrogation both the manager and hostess have flatly denied my allegations, and they ask if I have any way of corroborating my story. I tell them that the Taxi driver can, and they promptly call him (he left his # the night before). After the ensuing phone conversation, they tell me that he had denied any knowledge of a passport being taken, and that he had simply been hired to drive me to the police station (fucker!!).
They then suggest to me that since I had been at Club Ludovic earlier in the evening, perhaps I had lost my passport there. I tell them that I know for a 100% fact I had it afterwards, yet they persist in the theory that I had lost it at Club Ludovic. The statement ends with them telling me they will be in touch, but they think there is little they can do.
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Passport Found
The next day is Monday, and I am beginning to realize the enormity of my situation. I will have to travel by overnight train to Moscow to the embassy, and may need to fly out of Moscow at additional expense. It appears that the remainder of my trip is ruined.
At 4pm I get a phone call from my Oksanas rep, telling me that my passport has been found at Club Lodovic. She is confused about how or why Club Ludovic would telephone them?
I realize instantly that when I had given my statement I had of course provide the details on where I was staying to the police. Hmmmm….
I head over to Club Lodovic and meet with my Oksanas rep before heading inside. I advise her of my suspicions, and she tells me she will find out what we can about when/how Club Lodovic supposedly came into possession of my passport.
We head inside to the admin areas, and a heavy set babushka hands over the passport. My Oksanas rep speaks to her briefly in Russian, and the babushka looks very uncomfortable and refuses to answer any questions, and we leave.
Once outside, my rep agrees with me that the most likely scenario is that the police adviced Gotika that it would be various convenient if my passport was found at Club Lodovic and then they called my apartment service (whose # was provided via my statement).
I never received any followup from the police regarding the complaint I had filed. (Indeed, it’s almost like then knew….)
One final note, is that for the remainder of my week, whenever I passed by Gotika’s they were noticeably and substantially less aggressive in their marketing/hustling for customers. (although that seemed to lesson as the week went on).
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Conclusions?
Anyway, I am well aware of the many mistakes I made and I know how lucky I was not to suffer more serious consequences. My lessons? Don’t carry around your passport, see a menu or price list before you buy anything, keep your receipts, most importantly do not go to Gotika!
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[QUOTE=Fijiman] My lessons? Don’t carry around your passport, see a menu or price list before you buy anything, keep your receipts, most importantly do not go to Gotika![/QUOTE]Fijiman,
Молодец! Excellent story, thank you for taking the time to write it down and share it with us.
My conclusions? If you walk into a snake pit, expect to get bit. Accept the fact that you have been had and that the management holds all the cards. Pony up the extra 300 руб. (which was about... what? $12.00?), cut your losses and get out.
BTW - I always carry my money and passport in my front pants pocket, it makes it much more difficult to lift. A little trick I learned from my years in NYC.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky]
Молодец! Excellent story, thank you for taking the time to write it down and share it with us.
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My conclusion - and having been there many times - is to not go out alone in a new town without having a buddy... or at least some fundamental knowledge of the local language. Maybe that's just me. To be frank, I rarely go out alone in Moscow, even after almost 10 years of living there, and extremely rarely to a place I've never been. Use your heads, guys... Piece of advice: there are many of us ISGers on the ground in various locations, and if properly incentivized (ie free beer and/or mojitos :) ) we can be extremely useful. ;)
But Stravinsky, I agree with you 100% - money in the front pocket is always advisable!
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Gandhi in Gotika
[QUOTE=Fijiman]
My lessons? Don’t carry around your passport, see a menu or price list before you buy anything, keep your receipts, most importantly do not go to Gotika!
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Wonderful report, Fijiman.
And of course I'm sure you're also aware that Gandhi [i]always[/i] kept his receipts...
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Not having your passport with you will be more of a problem then help.
Imagine the situation where you need to show your passport and not having it?
Carry your money and passport in the small bag around neck for example and it will never be lifted. Exept you're very drunk.
Fiji what happened to you happen to foreigners all the time so don't be surprised. The difference is you told about it while many keep silent.
The best advice is what many Russians will tell you. Don't have any business with cops and judges!
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]Not having your passport with you will be more of a problem then help.
Imagine the situation where you need to show your passport and not having it?[/QUOTE]
You can carry a photocopy of your passport, visa, migration card and registration. As I've been told, it's sufficient for the cops. But if someone lifts it... no big deal.
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salon on Vladimirovsky, 8
I have visited today salon on Vladimirovsky, 8. I've chosen the nice girl Alisa.
In the beginning we have talked & have learnt each other. Then she have started a condom puts on a mouth. She does it with soul. Between sex we have sincerely chatted & have laughed over tricks of a life & jokes.
The excellent young girl! An excellent body, excellent sex.
It's perfect. It was possible to me.
I've left salon with easy pleasant weariness.
I recommend to visit this salon & this wonderful girl.
(report's BAHAMA)
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[QUOTE=Fijiman]While in St.Petersburg last year in October, I had an unfortunate experience at one of the strip clubs. This will be a long post, but somewhat entertaining and educational I think. I should have posted it a long time ago, but as you can see it is a somewhat embarrassing of every mistake that a newbie can make, and I guess I was a little sheepish in admitting it publicly.[/QUOTE]
Hi Fijiman .... I recall the amazing story you shared at the time. Hope I can still help you out with the cam one day ;)
See ya soon :)
Cheers
TL
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Skeevy's point is the most obvious one.
Learning fast and learning on you feet is the key that makes the difference between having a stumble here and there, or being carved to pieces and chewed up and spit out by the sharks and pirhanas that swim around waiting for suckers and losers that offer themselves up like sushi.
For God's sake, once you make one big mistake, you need to learn SOMETHING from it, or you might as well put a sign on your forehead that says "Roll Me Again Cause I'm Too Stupid To Care!".
Missing the first sign, that your failures with internet skanks and agency tramps and chalking it up to inexperience, that it was time to make the wise decision to quit while ahead and call it a night, and hope tomorrow will be better, but to then surrender to the very crooks that you know are waiting to take complete advantage of you???
That's your first mistake. Second mistake was not to get your tramp's mobile number before your expensive hand job time was up. Third mistake was to cave in AGAIN to buy the $40 chocolate! At that point, they know you would fall for ANYTHING!
For the 300 rubles ($10) that Flo-Jo-Man decided he would stand his ground over, he bought himself the nightmare he deserved.
You knowingly and deliberately make the totally WRONG choice to go into a tourist rip-off joint, and then have the complete and utter lack of common sense to think that you will beat THEM at THEIR game?
Over $10???
For $10 you could have walked out the door and been done with them.
Ya got what you deserved, ya got your money's worth, and more than what ya bargained for.
Well, nobody's perfect. Guess somebody's gotta set an example how not to do it.
Might as well be you. So its not a total loss, you get credit for that.
Way to go Fergie! :D
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The first time over isn't supposed to be easy.
Oh Bez, don't be so tough on the poor guy. Wah wah wah!
Did I not almost take a similar chance ten years ago, in a much more remote city where the only person I knew was a marriage agency girl I went to the provinces to meet, and told her after 2 days that I was sorry I didn't think it would work out because she couldn't speak a word of English, so she told me to go to hell.
Alone with no friends, my first time, instead of giving up and running back to Kiev with my tail between my legs, inspired by Roger and Doc's old reports, I set off wandering about on my own.
After walking all around town looking for ANY sign of pussy in the discos and hotel bars and finding nothing, at 9PM I finally asked a waiter at a popular cafe about "girls???", and he brought me inside to talk to the English speaking syrian bartenders who swore I was CIA because my English was TOO good, since it was impossible that I could be a tourist, as no American would EVER come to this fucking place. And yes, I was a dumb ass too, dragging my passport around, instead of a copy, stuffed in a stupid zippered waist-strap wallet hidden inside my boxers. Sure, a bit safer that way, but I looked like an idiot digging way down into my crotch, struggling to extract it without pulling a huge wad of crisp new hundreds out at the same time. They insisted on verifying my passport as valid, as now that I convinced them I wasn't CIA, they were even more sure I was FSB there to bust them for overstaying their visas. Talk about paranoid.
After many phone calls and a 90 minute wait, 1 car arrived in the car park out back, for me to choose from 4 skanks stuffed into the back of a Lada, but they all were all homely, so I said Sorry. Another hour and 2 more carloads that were no better, so the 2 syrian guys, my new buddies, finally said Let's go, so I got in their car and off we went on this bizarre adventure to some big USSR casino/hotel on the other side of town. By now its 1 AM, and I'm wondering what the hell am I doing with these complete strangers, 2 Syrian guys in Ukraine, and I'm carrying $3,000 in my groin. We go in and upstairs to the bar, they talk with the bartender, a few more calls, and after 45 minutes another car arrives outside with 2 girls and their mamachka, one looked great so finally I said ok.
Back to my apartment because the mamachka didn't trust me and wanted to see for herself I was alone that I didn't have 5 mafia pals waiting to gang-debauch her new girl, up 5 pitch black flights with the 2 Syrian guys behind me in the dark. The hair on the back of my neck was standing up, I was waiting for a knife in my kidneys, but the only thing they did was tell me I must give them $200. Which I did, knowing it was a total rip-off. Well, Syrians will do that to you, if they can get away with it.
So I could have argued with them, I could have "stood my ground" like Fudgy-Man, but I understood I was not in any position of strength. And I certainly was not looking for trouble, since now I finally had my very hot bride for the night, all I wanted at that point was to have my pimps leave so blondinka and I could get busy. When you're on your own, on someone else's ground, better choose your battles carefully, or pretend to be a tough guy like Mount Fuji-Man and deeply regret it later.
My bride actually was german white trash, in Ukraine to study at institute, just 19, her first week to escort, zero mileage, not so passionate until I got her warmed up, but really a solid +9 on looks. She was from some old GDR shithole like Leipzig or Ehrfurt.
But when the mamachka came back later to retrieve her, she slipped me her business card with her number, and she had written "Girl $20", the correct local price. Not $200, but $20, which also means that the girl, whoever she might be, only gets half that, for an hour. God I miss the old days!
So for all my worries about the syrians and my giving in to their jacking me for hooking me up, in the end, they helped me make the connection of a lifetime with Ileana the mamachka, who kept me busy for the next 3 years with all kinds of outstanding fresh talent.
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Report about girl Lejla from salon on the Nevsky.95
Never wrote about circulations to salons, but has not restrained. It would be desirable to share unforgettable impressions. I had a rest with Lejloj somewhere one month ago, I having read reports about her. I wanted sex without problems. And I was not mistaken! Thanks for reports. The well-groomed girl with east pleasant appearance and with pleasant smells. A figure super, a breast only small, I like the size4 ore5. She had a fantastic body, smooth skin, and amazing tits – young and firm and irresistible.
Concerns very benevolently. A little in the beginning is confused. But as it will be got, such impression that Lejle like sex. Yes. Likes to be engaged in sex, till now I can not forget her. She gives in to easily any poses. Blow job deep. And possession of vagina muscles has felt and ja-amazingly. Oral sex good, but not deep enogh. However, I must admit it helped to raise my friend all right. Classical sex- excellent. Attitude – excellent. Absence of soap and gel in the bathroom – too bad! Lejla's talk was unobtrusive and light. I will certainly visit her again!
The general estimation 5 +. I will go still necessarily.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]
The best advice is what many Russians will tell you - don't have any business with cops and judges![/QUOTE] Since even Bez is in the mood for confession, I can admit to an unfortunate incident with the Cops in SPB. I think I posted this experience a few years ago in ISG, but I was shaken down by a couple of cops while walking (staggering) home from the bar with a hot young dyev. Shake down? Did I say shake down? Excuse me, that's not right - they ROBBED me while giving me a pat down "looking for drugs and weapons". One of the guys inspected my documents while the other one rifled through my pockets and picked out the larger bills leaving me with very little. In fact, I was about $150 lighter when I gor back to the apartment.
The next night, I was wandering back to my apartment MUCH less drunk but at about the same hour when I ran into these same two cops again. They smiled and asked me to "assume the position" (arms out). Of course I smiled and complied but not before putting my cell phone wallet and my wad of cash in my hands as they frisked me. They found the 200 Rubles in my back pocket and seemed pissed off that I had not left more for them to "find". But in less than a minute they were satisfied that I had learned the game and let me go on my way.
The following night, they just looked the other way when I approached. I am SURE that if I had made a fuss on either the first or second night, things would have ended much differently.
Lessons learned.
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[QUOTE=Jake993]Since even Bez is in the mood for confession, I can admit to an unfortunate incident with the Cops in SPB. I think I posted this experience a few years ago in ISG, but I was shaken down by a couple of cops while walking (staggering) home from the bar with a hot young dyev. Shake down? Did I say shake down? Excuse me, that's not right - they ROBBED me while giving me a pat down "looking for drugs and weapons". One of the guys inspected my documents while the other one rifled through my pockets and picked out the larger bills leaving me with very little. In fact, I was about $150 lighter when I gor back to the apartment.
[/QUOTE]I've been robbed twice by the cops in St.Petes... not shook down, robbed.
I posted on it before, nothing shameful about it. Happened in a 10-year time span with dozens of late-night adventures in between, so no need for paranoia... just know that the police are to be avoided.
Once on a Nevsky sidestreet and once on Konnueshnaya Ploshad.
First time I was really drunk and actually only lost a phone, second time considerably less drunk and very aware of what was going on. Got into a bit of a pointing and shouting match with them and was fighting impluses to punch one of them in the face. Would of been a disaster of course. Swedish diplomat ended up coming to my rescue, but not before I was about 4000 rubels lighter. In my fervor of defending passport, phone and wallet I forgot my jacket pocket.
Oh well. Diplomat by the way told me I was lucky that all I lost was my money. Much worse has happened many times to foreigners and Russians alike.
I'll say it again, avoid walking late at night in St.Petersburg if you've been drinking. Take a taxi.
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Report on SpB street scene
I am planning a month long trip to SPB this winter. This is my first visit to SPB. I am a street guy. In my research, I came across an article (http://info.smf.ktu.lt/Edukin/zurnalas/archive/pdf/2004%201%20(43)/17%20Yakovleva%20Rusakova.pdf) on the SPB street scene. It is a dated article so there may have been changes in the street scene. Are these the SPB strolls? Any comments or advice on the street scene?
In Admiralteisky district on Izmaylovsky prospect between Krasnoarmeiskaya steets 1 and 5.
Zagorodny prosect by Vitebsky station.
In Moscovsky district at Metro stations on Moscovsky prospect: Frunzenskaya, Elektrosila, Mokovskaya, and Kuznetsovskaya street.
In Kirovsky district along Prospect Veteranov and prospect Leninsky.
District Frunzensksy on Prospect Slavy and Buharestskaya street towards Moscovsky district.
District Vyborgsky on Prosvescheniya prospect.
District Krasnoselsky on Petergofskoye at Komsomol Park.
District Petrogradsky on Bolshaya Pushkarskaya street.
In the Central District on Staro Nevsky Prospect, around Vosstanya Square and at
Staro Nevsky Prospect and Suvorovsky prospect
In Moscovsky District around Pobedy station.
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Remember the 10 commandments!
This is an update of a post I made on this board a few years ago. I have not hobbied in Russia for a while but I have visited. The biggest change I notice about SPG and Russia in general is that meeting foreigners is not such a big deal for them anymore. I miss the sensation of being the "exotic foreigner" on my first visits to SPG and later to old Novgorod. In my future visits I will go to smaller towns to try to get back that "new foreigner" vibe.
I like the idea of only carrying a copy of your visa and passport. I did not know that this was acceptable.
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1. Avoid Golden Dolls and Maximus strip club (and apperently all other strip clubs in SPG) unless you are very rich and like to be hassled and ripped off.
2. Russian women seem to like foreigners, so getting lucky(for free) here seems to be pretty easy. (This part seems to be that most changed since my first visit 9 years ago.)
3. Marstals, Magrib and Tribunal bar late at night (after 1am) are great places to find pros and non-pros (but some of the working women have been there for several years. I saw a woman I took home 4 years before still at Marstals)
4. Never pay more than $150 for the WHOLE NIGHT with ANY girl you meet at a bar. (You need to see the more recent posts for the current FAIR rates and don't screw it up for everyone else by overpaying)
5. Let the woman do all the talking with your hotel security and be prepared to pay $2-$10 hush money. (Maybe slightly higher now)
6. There are Pros in almost all SPG hotels but they are usually way overpriced. Make sure you agree on all terms with her before you give the hotel mafia/pimp guy any money.
7. You can avoid the whole hotel/security issue by renting an apartment. (The easiest way to register your visa within the first 72 hours as required is to spend just your first night in a hotel)
8. Taxis are cheap, so use them late at night. Remember the police are NOT there to help you! (I also got mugged by 2 cops and lost $300. I did the whole police report thing not expecting to get the money back but so they would have to share, because I gave very, very detailed descriptions of the 2 assholes.)
9. ALWAYS pay attention to the drawbridge schedule late at night (with a safety margin) if you are going to cross the Neva. (Missing the bridges was the originating incident that got me mugged)
10. ATM machines are everywhere and you avoid the risks of carrying a lot of money. You usually get an okay rate and you don't have to deal with the money exchange jerks.
Good luck and safe mongering!
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Good Old Times
[QUOTE=Pacogrande]I am planning a month long trip to SPB this winter. This is my first visit to SPB. I am a street guy..[/QUOTE]Good luck PacoGrande.
These last years, I saw so many foreigners going back home with 0 "free" girls f*cked, even italians..
Good old times are finished in St Petersburg. Don't expect to catch some freebies if you don't speak Russian and/or are good looking.
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Not looking for freebies
[QUOTE=Pua88]Good luck PacoGrande.
These last years, I saw so many foreigners going back home with 0 "free" girls f*cked, even italians.
Good old times are finished in St Petersburg. Don't expect to catch some freebies if you don't speak Russian and/or are good looking.[/QUOTE] Pu, thanks for your reply. I have more money than time, speak no Russian and my mother thinks I am handsome but not that handsome. Once you get to know me, I am charming but often need a little money to prime the pump.
Wondering about P4P on the streets. Mainly which streets and where on those streets.
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Foreigners and Russian girls on TV!
I am right now in SPB on a busy business trip. Not much to report because I am too busy and only spend the nights with an old girlfriend who is into fucking as often as I want and as much as I can. Even waking up for a quickie at 5 am.
She told me a few days ago there was a program on Russian TV about foreign men and Russian girls! The conclusion of this program was that all foreigners were pigs, just coming to Russia to fuck as many girls as possible, never wanting a relation, only sex! The moral was: Russian girls should keep away from the bad foreigners!
An unspoken and indirect conclusion must be that Russian men are so much more serious. They don't want sex, but relation?
My girlfriend told me it was great that I was different from other foreigners!
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Exploring the Russian soul
[quote=explorer69]my girlfriend told me it was great that i was different from other foreigners![/quote]
yes you only want to peer into her pure russian soul!
pity you have to penetrate her flesh in order to do so...
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foreigners and girls
[quote=gentleman travel]yes you only want to peer into her pure russian soul!
pity you have to penetrate her flesh in order to do so...[/quote]my point was that tv tells it is bad for russian girls to meet foreigners!! foreigners are not to be trusted!!
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Foreigner = HUGE disadvantage
[QUOTE=Explorer69]My point was that TV tells it is bad for Russian girls to meet foreigners! Foreigners are not to be trusted![/QUOTE]Well, can't be worst anyway..
Some years ago to be a foreigner, was a very good point. In fact, too easy. You didn't have to do anything. Even the worst guy could pick up beautiful girl.
Then came "Capitalism" very very fast. And to be a foreigner became a HUGE disadvantage with girls. They prefer local men: more easy to manipulate, they spend 100% of their money for the girls, speak Russian.
Now we have "Capitalism" + "Feminism", not like in Western Europe or USA, but you have to work it to get the beauties. It means you have to speak good Russian and work your ass to make the girls forget you are a foreigner..
Things move fast in this world.
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So what is new?
Most Russians don't like foreigners of any kind and they don't hide their feelings
Long have gone the times when typical russian girl though that marriage with foreigner will be everlasting fairy tale. Foreign men can be pigs the same way as russian men.
The program was probably right with conclusion that foreigners only want sex with russian girls. But somehow I doubt they mention that great majority of those foreigners pays money for that sex - thus supporting the local economy.
Foreigner usually pays his hotel or apartment, pays his lunch in high class restaurant, pays drinks both for him and the girls, etc. Most of us here know how things work when you come to Russia and where your money ends.
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[QUOTE=Kurenda]So what is new?
Most Russians don't like foreigners of any kind and they don't hide their feelings
Long have gone the times when typical russian girl though that marriage with foreigner will be everlasting fairy tale. Foreign men can be pigs the same way as russian men.
The program was probably right with conclusion that foreigners only want sex with russian girls. But somehow I doubt they mention that great majority of those foreigners pays money for that sex - thus supporting the local economy.
Foreigner usually pays his hotel or apartment, pays his lunch in high class restaurant, pays drinks both for him and the girls, etc. Most of us here know how things work when you come to Russia and where your money ends.[/QUOTE]I agree with Kurenda on the above points, but do not agree that one's chances in St.Petersburg are going down. Personally I think it is better now than during the boom years 2005-2008 when being a foreigner was like having the plague for some girls.
a) Russians don't like foreigners.
Absolutely true, especially among Russian men. They might have foreign friends and admire certain things about foreign countries, but in candid moments they will reveal their distrust and disrepect for foreigners. Foreigner is a pretty broad term however, from Europeans and Americans to Caucasians, Arabs and Asians.
Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.
Thankfully, they really are pretty easy girls overall.
b) Foreign men can be pigs.
Our reputation is mixed. On the one hand girls like the way foreigners are more romantic to Russian girls then the locals often are (but don't underestimate the locals in this sense), on the other hand they understand what we are after.
Nonetheless, most girls do not think of foreign men as pigs IMO, just as perhaps being false in their promises.
c) Foreign sex tourists bring money to Russia
I think this is overestimated. Russia isn't Ukraine, which is a genuine sex tourist destination. The vast majority of fucking going on in salons is Russian on Russian and the foreign sex clients are usually either genuine tourists looking for some fun on the side, businessmen or expats living/working in Russia.
Any income helps, but I've never gotten the impression that Russia was a sex tourist destination to the same extent that Ukraine is.
d) The Golden Age is over.
The Golden Age was already over in 2002. IMO however things have improved in comparison to 2005-2008 when the booming Russian economy and the availability of easy credit gave the local boys a lot of spending cash and allowed the traditionally patriotic Russians to be among themselves and "show the foreigners" who is boss. The attitude was "the world comes to Russia, Russia does not come to the world" and foreigners were increasingly looked upon with contempt. The wind has been taken out of their sails somewhat however and Russian girls have rediscovered the foreign man as a source of lifestyle. Interestingly enough, I think the idea of marrying a foreigner is forever gone. Of course some still will, but the whole "marry a foreigner and escape" is really passe.. not only due to a better economy (even in the crisis it is still much, much better than in the 90's) but also due to the many reports of failed marriages to foreigners.
I'm finding it really much easier in the last 6 months than it was in the past 3 years. Biggest key though, and this can't be repeated enough:
Learn conversational Russian at least and have a reason to be there/reason to come back.
At least 50% of my freebie action would never have happened if I didn't speak some Russian.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]She told me a few days ago there was a program on Russian TV about foreign men and Russian girls! The conclusion of this program was that all foreigners were pigs, just coming to Russia to fuck as many girls as possible, never wanting a relation, only sex! The moral was: Russian girls should keep away from the bad foreigners!...[/QUOTE]What was the channel Explorer69 ? Perhaps they have this documentary in streaming.
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Russian and foreigners
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I agree with Kurenda on the above points, but do not agree that one's chances in St.Petersburg are going down. Personally I think it is better now than during the boom years 2005-2008 when being a foreigner was like having the plague for some girls.
a) Russians don't like foreigners.
Absolutely true, especially among Russian men. They might have foreign friends and admire certain things about foreign countries, but in candid moments they will reveal their distrust and disrepect for foreigners. Foreigner is a pretty broad term however, from Europeans and Americans to Caucasians, Arabs and Asians.
Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.
Thankfully, they really are pretty easy girls overall.
b) Foreign men can be pigs.
Our reputation is mixed. On the one hand girls like the way foreigners are more romantic to Russian girls then the locals often are (but don't underestimate the locals in this sense), on the other hand they understand what we are after.
Nonetheless, most girls do not think of foreign men as pigs IMO, just as perhaps being false in their promises.
c) Foreign sex tourists bring money to Russia
I think this is overestimated. Russia isn't Ukraine, which is a genuine sex tourist destination. The vast majority of fucking going on in salons is Russian on Russian and the foreign sex clients are usually either genuine tourists looking for some fun on the side, businessmen or expats living/working in Russia.
Any income helps, but I've never gotten the impression that Russia was a sex tourist destination to the same extent that Ukraine is.
d) The Golden Age is over.
The Golden Age was already over in 2002. IMO however things have improved in comparison to 2005-2008 when the booming Russian economy and the availability of easy credit gave the local boys a lot of spending cash and allowed the traditionally patriotic Russians to be among themselves and "show the foreigners" who is boss. The attitude was "the world comes to Russia, Russia does not come to the world" and foreigners were increasingly looked upon with contempt. The wind has been taken out of their sails somewhat however and Russian girls have rediscovered the foreign man as a source of lifestyle. Interestingly enough, I think the idea of marrying a foreigner is forever gone. Of course some still will, but the whole "marry a foreigner and escape" is really passe.. not only due to a better economy (even in the crisis it is still much, much better than in the 90's) but also due to the many reports of failed marriages to foreigners.
I'm finding it really much easier in the last 6 months than it was in the past 3 years. Biggest key though, and this can't be repeated enough:
Learn conversational Russian at least and have a reason to be there/reason to come back.
At least 50% of my freebie action would never have happened if I didn't speak some Russian.[/QUOTE]I still have the feeling that Russian girls in general like foreigners. But in principle I agree with everything you write!
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I love Russian girls!
My girl was just on top of me in the sofa, sitting on me for a serious fuck, then stood up, stumbled and the glass table in front of the sofa is now history! I will probably have to pay it tomorrow. But it was quite fun!
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Me too
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I've been robbed twice by the cops in St.Petes... not shook down, robbed.
I posted on it before, nothing shameful about it. Happened in a 10-year time span with dozens of late-night adventures in between, so no need for paranoia... just know that the police are to be avoided.
Once on a Nevsky sidestreet and once on Konnueshnaya Ploshad.
First time I was really drunk and actually only lost a phone, second time considerably less drunk and very aware of what was going on. Got into a bit of a pointing and shouting match with them and was fighting impluses to punch one of them in the face. Would of been a disaster of course. Swedish diplomat ended up coming to my rescue, but not before I was about 4000 rubels lighter. In my fervor of defending passport, phone and wallet I forgot my jacket pocket.
Oh well. Diplomat by the way told me I was lucky that all I lost was my money. Much worse has happened many times to foreigners and Russians alike.
I'll say it again, avoid walking late at night in St.Petersburg if you've been drinking. Take a taxi.[/QUOTE]I was shaken down by about 4 cops right outside the Oktyabrskaya Hotel. They said they were loooking for drugs. I was drunk and with a chick, and left my ID in the hotel. I intentionally only had about $40 in case I got pickpocketed, which they took. Scared me at first, then I realized the game they were playing.
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Our girls!!
Raya, Nevsky. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
This is my hundredth post on this forum, so I hope it could be as good as Raya! She is new in this business so her profession hasn't left a mark on her yet. She is very true in expressing her emotions and is not automatic at all.
I made a call to the salon, and was given a choice of girls when I came, there were a few candidatures that I thought were nice. I chose Raya. The room and shower and everything were ready for me. All very good level.
Here are Raya's parameters: Height about 150-155 cm, no more, bust either size 2 or 3, but very nice shape and firmness. Nice figure, no extra fats. Raya says, that she goes in for sports. Age about 19-20, weight 45 kilos. In other words, a very petite and slim girl. She smelled good and was equally nice with her clothes off. She looks much better than in her photo.
In the process she told me that she was new and asked to correct her if she does a thing the way she shouldn't. Oral sex was good for a beginner, occasionally she would use her hand to assist. But quickly got my hint, and afterwards it was all fine. The main process was in various positions, I made a shot in doggy style – the view of her firm and round hips turned me on and helped to reach the climax. Raya allows to be touched to a reasonable extent.
On the whole Raya has a very friendly and positive attitude, she's sociable, but light and unobtrusive. She is a very good choice for the lovers of small bodies and not yet glamorized girls. Another pretty little baby.
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Lena- Marata73-nice girl!!
Lena, Marata 73, tel. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
Lena is a good-looking girl and she is even better in reality than in the photos. She is very friendly, gave me some cake when I ordered tea.
Excellent sex, exquisite caresses, has a girl-friend attitude, likes to tease her customer before giving him a blow job. The blow job was deep and good, she licked me all over, giving very pleasant sensations. It's difficult to describe, but her caresses made me feel fantastic.
I could not restrain myself any longer and we switched on to classical sex. It was very good, too. Lena wasn't automatic at all, she was obviously enjoying the process, got wet quickly, and I climaxed soon after we changed position. We took a break and I had tea and Lena offered me a cake. She didn't stop rubbing against me even when I was having tea. The second approach was even better than the first one. Lena is very active, likes to take the initiative. She's a very friendly and sociable girl. I will most certainly visit her again!
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]I still have the feeling that Russian girls in general like foreigners. But in principle I agree with everything you write![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Women are less distrusting and disrespecting and many have a genuine attraction to foreigners for a number of reasons (money is actually not the main reason in most cases), but they also know that most foreigners coming to Russia are looking to get a piece of Russian ass. They also know of their reputation as being easy girls, so you'll have to work your way around this issue.
[/QUOTE]Actually I DID write that I feel that Russian girls in general still like foreigners, even though they still need foreigners to "go through the motions" when it comes to courting them. In general though, comparing my success to that of my Russian friends, Russian girls put out much much faster with me than they do with Russian guys... at least among my friends. They're decent presentable guys too, so not sure where the problem is.
I think curiousity is one of the issues and thankfully many Russian girls know that as a foreigner you aren't really relationship material for them like a local would be, so they might as well enjoy the ride.
It's not always the case, but I've been often surprised how realistic Russian girls are about this.
Another thing is that they realise that the local boys (at least the average local boys) aren't spending any money on them anymore. No dinners, less blowout club nights. There is less cash flow in the local dating pool. Kind of took the wind out of the sails of some of the local wannabe big shots.
There are still the cold shark women out there too, but they are easily avoided and so easy to spot. I'm happy to let the locals blow their coin on them.[QUOTE=Explorer69]My girl was just on top of me in the sofa, sitting on me for a serious fuck, then stood up, stumbled and the glass table in front of the sofa is now history! I will probably have to pay it tomorrow. But it was quite fun![/QUOTE]Haha, that's good stuff.
I've destroyed various lamps and pieces of furniture over the years too. Unless it's a Ming vase, it's worth the memories for sure. Those IKEA beds really aren't sex-worthy by the way either.
I remember a couple of years back when I broke a vase hammering away on a tochka pro. The apartment agency wrote me an angry letter afterwards saying how I must pay for this expensive item etc. etc.
I was worried and asked them how much? $12.
Haha. Should have destroyed the entire apartment for $50. ))
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Russian girls and foreigners
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I think curiousity is one of the issues and thankfully many Russian girls know that as a foreigner you aren't really relationship material for them like a local would be, so they might as well enjoy the ride.
It's not always the case, but I've been often surprised how realistic Russian girls are about this.[/QUOTE]I can only say AMEN!
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Girls from St-Petersburg wait you!
Toma is a new girl that appeared at Kamennoostrovskiy prospekt in St-Petersburg. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. Visited her not so long ago – I always have luck with new girls. She is tall, 173 cm, bust 3, 24 years old. Toma has long legs and nice hips along with a very slim waist that look very nice.
Toma is new in the business, so she tries hard to please, whispering all kinds of encouraging words all the time. Sounds very natural and seductive.
Her pussy is nice and neat and tight – as good as you can expect of any high class escort girl!
Toma's oral sex is very tender and soft, with kisses covering all surrounding areas. She turns on in the process. Plus a wonderful hand job using both hands – I enjoyed it.
I had two shots with Toma in 2 hours, I almost thought my heart would stop from the resonance of our mutual climax.
What else?.The girl is smart and intelligent. I liked her very much and could most certainly recommend her.
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Girls from St-Petersburg
Cristina. What made me feel so good.
Last week we went to Stepanych's sauna and asked to bring the girls from Fontanka salon. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
Some very attractive girls, all smiling and in good mood were sent to us/ I was surprised. And I chose Cristina. I remembered her by the photo. She was friendly, with a nice and slim body.
Cristina went to the steam room with me without a protest and afterwards jumped into the cold water screaming as she did it while her body was getting used to the contrast.
Then we made love. I've been lucky with the girls lately – the sex was good. I had a complete illusion of a non-professional girl in good sense of the word. Firm nice breasts cup size two, soft and velvety skin and her immediate response to all desires.
The girl is very polite and keeps up conversation willingly. My second shot with her was even better as I didn't expect it happen at all due to my age. But you can go on forever with such a partner. Now I hope you can understand what made me feel so good.
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Happy New Year from St. Petersburg!
Ilona, Kamni-1, [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
I decided to try the express tariff at Kamni-1. So I listed to the short instructions given by the salon administrator over the telephone and shortly arrived Kamni-1. I was shown 4 girls and selected Ilona, because of her slim figure with really big tits! Her body looked very much like in the photo. After waiting a few more minutes I was taken upstairs to a very clean and cozy room with a shower. So I took a shower, and when the girl joined me and threw off the towel I was really impressed by her beautiful big breasts.
I am really lucky with oral sex lately and Ilona gave me excellent oral sex that was very deep. My shot came when Ilona sat on top of me. Half an hour passed quickly and to my full satisfaction I got all I wanted from it.
So in the end I could describe the salon interior as excellent, attitude to the customer – excellent, oral sex and classical sex also excellent.
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Girls from Piter!
Pr. Prosvesheniya/33. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
Dashen'ka became the first pros in my life and I must admit everything was just super, I was altogether happy with her. It was Dasha whom I planned to visit, so I refused to see all the other girls in the salon.
I was a bit nervous, that's way I was glad when Dasha took the initiative in her hands (or it was rather her mouth). Dasha had a full cup see breast, velvety skin and 100% likeness to her photo.
I had two shots with her – one from oral sex and the other from classical sex. I was glad that she looked and sounded very natural and that she would take the used condom off herself.
As I was nervous, my second time was all thanks to Dasha's excellent oral sex, after which she sat on top of me. She was obviously enjoying the process and I caught up her passion. I managed to come in spite of administrator's knock on the door signaling the time was out.
The administrator also did her job very well quickly helping me with all arrangements.
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Old Magrib now "Rooms"?
Need some help.
Couple weeks back I was in the midst of a drunk-a-thon 4 girls in 28 hours sex marathon and working on girl 2 at a club which if my whisky-fueled mind remembers correctly was exactly where Magrib used to be and called "Rooms".
It seemed epically large and very popular and they let my drunk ass in and I took home a smoking hot blonde babe for the low cost of 600 ruble 5am sushi.
Can anyone confirm I didn't dream the whole thing up? The girl was real enough, we're since kind of an item... but is there a place called "Rooms" in the old Magrib haunt?
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411 on St Petersburg escort agency
Can anyone recommend a decent escort agency in St Petersburg? Has anyone have the pleasure of doing business with this agency [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url]? TIA
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We Open For You!!!
Original thread in Russian [url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php?showtopic=40757[/url]
New "Photomodeli" salon will be opened in the beginning of the next year, January 14, 2010.
Salon is situated in the central part of St.Petersburg.
Large flat with 6 rooms and 3 bathrooms.
Address: Nekrasova street, 6.
Price - 2500RUR one hour / 4000RUR 2 hours.
Telephone number and other information will be announced later
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Magrib
I've yandexed it. Seems the new place is called Deep Dishes Casual Café and is a restaurant by day.
[url]http://forum.cosmo.ru/index.php?showtopic=148600&st=20[/url]
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Need some help.
Couple weeks back I was in the midst of a drunk-a-thon 4 girls in 28 hours sex marathon and working on girl 2 at a club which if my whisky-fueled mind remembers correctly was exactly where Magrib used to be and called "Rooms".
It seemed epically large and very popular and they let my drunk ass in and I took home a smoking hot blonde babe for the low cost of 600 ruble 5am sushi.
Can anyone confirm I didn't dream the whole thing up? The girl was real enough, we're since kind of an item... but is there a place called "Rooms" in the old Magrib haunt?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SlutLover]I've yandexed it. Seems the new place is called Deep Dishes Casual Café and is a restaurant by day.
[url]http://forum.cosmo.ru/index.php?showtopic=148600&st=20[/url][/QUOTE]That's the one, exactly.
Seemed like a pretty cool place.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Garbage Man]Can anyone recommend a decent escort agency in St Petersburg? Has anyone have the pleasure of doing business with this agency [url]www.petersburgescort.com[/url]? TIA[/QUOTE]Original thread in Russian [url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php?showtopic=40757[/url]
New "Photomodeli" salon will be opened in the beginning of the next year, January 14, 2010.
Salon is situated in the central part of St.Petersburg.
Large flat with 6 rooms and 3 bathrooms.
Address: Nekrasova street, 6.
Price - 2500RUR one hour / 4000RUR 2 hours.
Telephone number and other information will be announced later
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About us!!
Salon in Vladimirsky prospect, 8. The price is 2500 per hour. I selected Olesya from the the girls presented to me. She is 170 cm tall, breast size 2. I will omit the description as she looks exactly as in the photos.
As for the sex – it was very good, but it couldn't be different in a photomodeli salon. She willingly took various positions as well as the initiative. She is flexible, she has a good feeling of the partner, she doesn't try to lay back and relax, but she tries to give pleasure to her partner. She's also very tender and affectionate after sex. In short, I liked it very much!
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SPB apartment surprise
This was a nice surprise, I was going through some pics of my last trip to SPB (more then 1 year ago) which I did already report on ISG.
But then I found out that one girl I did at the time ... is actually a young (soon to be) famous russian porn star: Ashton.
How luck was I ??? By the way a GREAT fuck !!!
Fijiman: do you remember her as well ???? ;)
Pro pic here: [url]http://www.wj-nude-lesbians.com/galls-5/interracial-photos/29/pigtailed-nympho-1.jpg[/url]
and here: [url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ashton.html[/url]
My pix (dark room with little light) is attched.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Tits_Lover]This was a nice surprise, I was going through some pics of my last trip to SPB (more then 1 year ago) which I did already report on ISG.
But then I found out that one girl I did at the time ... is actually a young (soon to be) famous russian porn star: Ashton.
How luck was I ??? By the way a GREAT fuck !!!
Fijiman: do you remember her as well ???? ;)
Pro pic here: [url]http://www.wj-nude-lesbians.com/galls-5/interracial-photos/29/pigtailed-nympho-1.jpg[/url]
and here: [url]http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/ashton.html[/url]
My pix (dark room with little light) is attched.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
ARRGHHHHH!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!
Yes, I remember her....sitting there at the Salon and for some foolish reason let you pick first! Lucky bugger:-)
Damn, she was so hot! Looked way better in person than her photos at that link!
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considering St. Pertersberg
I've been reading the reports off st. P and no doubt the girls there are hot, furthermore there are plenty. I get a feeling that its very difficult to get the girls unless your willing to pay 200usd an hour and more if you really want a beauty. I found this site called rusprostitutes.comthe girls are super hot and cheap, but I wonder if its like some of you say, you call a girl and she will hang up on you or they will send someone who looks different? Are all the girls controlled by a pimp or are some of them freelance. I guess they are all under the mafia since we are in Russia. It just seems like they have different number so maybe some of them would be freelance. Have anyone tried this site?
I would apreciate some advice on this.
Thanks
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We wait you!! IN SANKT-PETERSBURG!!
Arina, Zvenigorodskaya street
I visited this salon again and it proved to be not in vain. Having read a lot of reports about one of the girls and having masturbated on her photos I decided to go and visit her in person. However when I saw her I understood that this girls was not for me, but I didn't want to leave the salon as it was. So I asked to show me all the girls. I had a choice of 5 girls and Arina was the last one standing in the doorway. She was wearing jeans and a sweater and some blue shoes. I thought that it was because the girl has just arrived, so she would not be tired. She was looking down at the floor because she was shy and inexperienced. Her red hair also distinguished her from the others. I went to take a shower and Arina went to another shower, which made the washing process much quicker.
Arina is 175 cm tall about 20 years old, and her weight is about 55 – 60 kilos. Her hair is red, the body hair is clean shaven, smells nice, firm breasts cup size 3. A young and beautiful girl! The girl has no photos and her attitude towards them is strictly negative. She puts on condom with her hands because of her inexperience. But she is very diligent and capable. At first her oral sex was very simple but then she started more active movements so I couldn't restrain myself any longer and gave a shot in her mouth! It was fantastic.
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Ira. Photomodeli salon at Prosveshenia ave.
Original reports in Russian are to be found here
Her photos at Phomodeli site
Phones: 812-708-91-17 812-708-91-17 (operator) or 812-958-08-14 812-958-08-14; 812-958-08-15 812-958-08-15 (salon properly)
So, Ira
Casting, my choice fell on Ira.
Due to her the exteriority girl is without charm, but she is a hurricane on a bed.
She started with the light oral pleasure. By the way she makes a great massage - it is her subject. So I relaxed and almost forgotten myself.
Our process was excellent, with her moans.
Reported by Superclient
My spending with her was in the positive exclusively , completely not playing, all process was natural including her moans.
Oral sex is good, but not so deep.
Reported by Secondus
An excellent treatment to client, all process is very good.
Reported by AndryPriest
While Irina conveyed me to a need condition (by the way effectively),
I had the pleasure also to explore the girl's body without the slightest sign of her disapproval.
Her moans are not a pornosounds. Her massage is very relaxable.
Reported by Bahama
Girl is a good, affectionate, obliging. Suited to the client with a soul.
Reported by Taksist
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Ulyana, Photomodeli at Lesnoi pr.
So, we are entering the room, a short acquaintance. A girl blows positives and I set up accordingly.
Then I undressed, got a towel, go to a shower-room. Having returned to the room I saw Ulyana wrapped in a towel waiting for me.
Ulyana removes the towel, switch off the light, sits down beside me, covering up nicely magnificent chest by one hand.
My penis in the middle of her breasts, very pleasant oral sex. Classical sex was great, I realized that was not wrong.
I was charged positively!
Reported by M_spb
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Again about us!!!!!!
Tanya's photos at, Photomodeli.
This girl corresponds to elite salon Kamni. I discovered a nice exteriority, for example a sports body.
She is trying very hard in the process. It comes a pleasant warmth from a girl.
Good, but still not perfect. I saw her a month ago and I say surely:
She comes to be prepared on the casting. I recommend her to all.
Reported by Sharikov.
Tel-468-10-92
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The Photomodeli web site is down -- what's happening?
Arriving SPB for my first trip on 6th March and had been planning to try the Photomodeli on Nevsky, as I speak no Russsian and it looked the best value venue. But the web site has disappeared, and when I ring the "English operator" number there's a recorded message in Russian and then the line goes dead. Can any Russian speaking fellow enthusiast tell me what's going on?
Failing that, can anyone recommend a similar alternative for the non-Russian speaker, who longs to try his first Russian girl (or two!)?
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Well - here's my trip report from SPB
[QUOTE=Stoneman21]Arriving SPB for my first trip on 6th March and had been planning to try the Photomodeli on Nevsky, as I speak no Russsian and it looked the best value venue. But the web site has disappeared, and when I ring the "English operator" number there's a recorded message in Russian and then the line goes dead. Can any Russian speaking fellow enthusiast tell me what's going on?
Failing that, can anyone recommend a similar alternative for the non-Russian speaker, who longs to try his first Russian girl (or two!)?[/QUOTE]Arriving at my upmarket hotel and passing two waves of security to get to the lobby, I suspected it might not be discrete getting an outcall. But I had "fallen in llove" with a girl called "Victoria" who advertised as an "Independent" on [url]www.Dosug. CZ[/url]. And had four positive reviews (in Russian). Phoned. She spoke English! Could she get into my hotel without using my name or room number? "Yes, of course. No problem! ". Of course, my friends, you know the problem. 45 minutes later a call from the nice young lady at reception who checked me in: "There is a "lady" (emphasis) at Reception asking for you. What should I do? ".
"Keep her there, I said. I'm not expecting anyone". I went downstairs and there was not the 24 year old beautiful blonde Victoria, but an 18(?) year old Goth with a nose-ring (no doubt a lovely girl). I pressed 1, 000 rubles into her hand, apologised, and told her there was no way I could be seen going upstairs with her. Afterwards she rang and asked if her "administrator" could "send a different girl"?. But of course that wasn't my problem.
I've been looking for the Photomodeli salons in Nevsky and Vladimirskaya. Frankly, despite some quite good directions in here, it's impossible. Without a photograph to follow, or maybe the English operator (who doesn't appear tobe there now).
Hit a real bad patch. What I would give for a discrete (even expensive!) outcall, or a safe, attractive salon within walking distance. And easy to find! It's easier to find a Russian escort in London!
Hope you all have better luck! Any receommendations?
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Mother + daughter deal
I am back on this valuable forum after a while and begin with the request for a contribution ... hoping to be able to reciprocate with my own contributions shortly.
Anyone has experience of a couple mother + daughter receiving men together for a threesome?
What is the press to refer to for this kind of advertising in Spb and/or online?
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[QUOTE=Stoneman21]...and Vladimirskaya. Frankly, despite some quite good directions in here, it's impossible. [/QUOTE]Assuming you mean Vladimirsky Prospect 6, that's a very easy one to find. Just my memory working, so I can't 100% guarantee... but IIRC next to the "6" on the street sign is an arch. To the left of the arch is a small door. It's unlocked IIRC. On the third floor on the left hand side is the door to the salon.
It's also the worst salon I've ever been to in terms of cleanliness and atmosphere, so I can't really recommend it. I didn't stay there, but have taken girls from there. The girls were OK and its cheap.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Assuming you mean Vladimirsky Prospect 6, that's a very easy one to find. Just my memory working, so I can't 100% guarantee... but IIRC next to the "6" on the street sign is an arch. To the left of the arch is a small door. It's unlocked IIRC. On the third floor on the left hand side is the door to the salon.
It's also the worst salon I've ever been to in terms of cleanliness and atmosphere, so I can't really recommend it. I didn't stay there, but have taken girls from there. The girls were OK and its cheap.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the directions, Doctor_Skank. Just for the record, the cached version of the website shows the address as "Vladimirskiy pr.8"
I shall cruise by and see if I can make out the places you mention "on the ground" - though I can't say it sounds exactly appetizing!
Thanks, though
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[QUOTE=Stoneman21]Thank you for the directions, Doctor_Skank. Just for the record, the cached version of the website shows the address as "Vladimirskiy pr.8"
I shall cruise by and see if I can make out the places you mention "on the ground" - though I can't say it sounds exactly appetizing!
Thanks, though[/QUOTE]Might be 8. In any case, next to the arch (the arch may be shut with a steel door) on the left is a small door, I believe it was gray. Sorry I can't remember all the details!
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Hi fellow mongers
Does anyone have any update on this? Why is the web site down, are the salons still open? (if we ever get lucky enough to find them.).
As a replacement, does anyone has any experience with:
[url]http://www.Spbnimfetki.ru/eng/[/url]
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Stoneman21]Arriving SPB for my first trip on 6th March and had been planning to try the Photomodeli on Nevsky, as I speak no Russsian and it looked the best value venue. But the web site has disappeared, and when I ring the "English operator" number there's a recorded message in Russian and then the line goes dead. Can any Russian speaking fellow enthusiast tell me what's going on?
Failing that, can anyone recommend a similar alternative for the non-Russian speaker, who longs to try his first Russian girl (or two!)?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=La Loicmoi]Hi fellow mongers
Does anyone have any update on this? Why is the web site down, are the salons still open? (if we ever get lucky enough to find them.).
As a replacement, does anyone has any experience with:
[url]http://www.Spbnimfetki.ru/eng/[/url]
Thanks![/QUOTE]Also don't know why the site is down, or if the salons are open. I expect they are, but in Russia you never know. Maybe they didn't make their monthly contribution to the local authorities.
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Answering myself, always fun :)
After some research on
[url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/[/url]
and in particular :
[url]http://www.spbnimfetki.ru/eng/eng/ankets/24/photo/2/#gallery[/url]
I found out using tineye, the origin of the pictures :
[url]http://pokazuha.ru/view/topic.cfm?key_or=810055&lenta_type=1&type=46[/url]
which suggest the girl is called Kyla Cole and indeed :
[url]http://www.kylacole.com/full/1995_b_09.html[/url]
I grew suspicious of this site anyway, girls way too good looking and prices too cheap for such beauties.
Still welcoming recommendations for non russian speaking mongers in SBP until photomdelli is back up.
[QUOTE=La Loicmoi]Hi fellow mongers
Does anyone have any update on this? Why is the web site down, are the salons still open? (if we ever get lucky enough to find them.).
As a replacement, does anyone has any experience with:
[url]http://www.Spbnimfetki.ru/eng/[/url]
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MagicTouch]I am back on this valuable forum after a while and begin with the request for a contribution ... hoping to be able to reciprocate with my own contributions shortly.
Anyone has experience of a couple mother + daughter receiving men together for a threesome?
What is the press to refer to for this kind of advertising in Spb and/or online?[/QUOTE]At least these 2 journals are consentrating in escort and sex service, Snakomstva and Randevu. Pictures are mostly fake, but there is pussy available.
Do not have experience but you can try [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi.php?service=2&id=53905[/url]
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For non Russian speakers can try this [url]http://www.mumu-spb.com/mainstart.html[/url]
At least the foto should be real, and service have been great (I have visited twice).
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Guys someone posted sometime ago a website of a Russian woman in residing in St.Petersburg, she offered the service of registering tourist visas for foreigners, Russian SIM card for mobile phones and rented departments I believe. Does anyone remember who was this woman? Or can post please a link to her website? Thanks
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Night flight look a like.
Gents,
i always go to NIght flight in Moscow or to some of the striptease clubs for lack of Russian language. Is there a similar venue in St. Peter?
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[QUOTE=Strike 69]Does anyone remember who was this woman? Or can post please a link to her website? Thanks[/QUOTE]Do a search for "Oksana" and you will find the info you need.
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[QUOTE=Strike 69]Guys someone posted sometime ago a website of a Russian woman in residing in St.Petersburg, she offered the service of registering tourist visas for foreigners, Russian SIM card for mobile phones and rented departments I believe. Does anyone remember who was this woman? Or can post please a link to her website? Thanks[/QUOTE]Может быть :
[url]http://www.oksanas.net/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Boofer]Gents,
i always go to NIght flight in Moscow or to some of the striptease clubs for lack of Russian language. Is there a similar venue in St. Peter?[/QUOTE]There is no Night Flight equivalent in St.Petersburg AFAIK, however there are several strip clubs, the most famous being Golden Dolls.
In addition, there are dozens of salons with the take out option, kind of like indoor tochkas.
A place that got good reviews a while back was a boat that had erotic dancers and on boat service... just can't remember it's name.
Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]There is no Night Flight equivalent in St.Petersburg AFAIK, however there are several strip clubs, the most famous being Golden Dolls.
In addition, there are dozens of salons with the take out option, kind of like indoor tochkas.
A place that got good reviews a while back was a boat that had erotic dancers and on boat service... just can't remember it's name.
Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?[/QUOTE]Может быть Забава бар ?
It's a bar in a old boat not so far from "Горьковская" subway station (Мытнинская набережная). But, be careful, last year this station was closed.
I heard that it's a bar with naked girls ans strip dancing show from 09 pm to 06 am. Entrance : 1000 Rb.
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[QUOTE=Marsupi31]Может быть Забава бар ?
It's a bar in a old boat not so far from "Горьковская" subway station (Мытнинская набережная). But, be careful, last year this station was closed.
I heard that it's a bar with naked girls ans strip dancing show from 09 pm to 06 am. Entrance : 1000 Rb.[/QUOTE]Tochno... .)
Yes, Zabara Bar is the place. Russian friend of mine loves it there, but I have no current info.
Anybody been there as of late or can confirm prices etc.?
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Raport
Yes I can confirm that the Zabara boat is still working, and Metro station Gorgovskaja is now open. Price I do not know but 1000 rup sounds about right.
Last time I visited there was about 20 ladies and very good looking. You can have 1-2 hours really nice time fucking in many salon, for the price of entrance and private + few drinks in Zabara. But if you want a strip club this is a good place.
I was visiting in salon Karamel in Dekabristov ul 53 tel. +7 (921) 956-43-10 apartment number 35, only one door in the street in this house. This is far away from metro stations, but otherways easy the find.
Girl name Sasha speaks good english and has pretty face and nice body, price 2000/h (+1000 for anal, must have some negotiation), There was couple of other girls with anal option too, but she seem the best. Wery shy girl, I deal with condom myself and oral was not so good, missionary and espesially doggie was good, while fucking add some lubricant in her ass and then slowly in there, sight was magnificient and after a while she was pushing against my dick wery nicely. Pictures are 100% hers [url]http://www.Rusdosug.com/indi54634.htm[/url] I can recommed, if you do not bother her to be shy.
Other girl I have visiting in my apartment Vika tel. +7 (952) 247-40-53. Number goes in mamochka for salon. [url]http://www.Rusdosug.com/indi53225.htm[/url] Wery nice girl, better in nature but pictures are defenitly her 100%. Breast only size 1 but very perky nipples. Wery thin and good shape (gymnastic?). Good and deep oral, almost hole member=). Will kiss and can be touched anywhere, keeps good eye contact in missionary, anal very tight so be gentle. Price 2500/h +1000 for anal.
Higly reccomended if you don't mind size 1 tits, speaks also some english. I might have her private number somewhere.
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Gotika = thiefs
I was in gotika las summer. Two sisters working there stole from me about 100 euro. I was very upset. Brothers keep away from this shithole.
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keep away from Gotika!
[QUOTE=Jan Uhak]I was in gotika las summer. Two sisters working there stole from me about 100 euro. I was very upset. Brothers keep away from this shithole.[/QUOTE]I have experience from many places in the world. One place to keep away is GOTIKA!
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Hi,
I will be in St. P in early May. I have two girls lined up, 'friends', with maybe another who hasn't responded yet. I've also emailed a few St. P lonely hearts in case they will meet, so I won't be lonely. If I decided to visit a tart, she would have to be something very special. Where is the place to go for a real beauty? Something to take your breath away? One of my 'friends' says she knows of such but I'd like a comparison.
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I am looking for any stripper clubs in Piter. Preferably in the northern side of the city. I would like that the club be small, low-key and the door to be unmarked. What say you, ISG?
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Really sexy girls in Piter?
I would like to receive info of very sexy girls in St. Petersburg. Or maybe go out with fellow monger some time you know good places/ girls.
To share my info I can tell some places where non Russian speaker can go in city center.
Nevsky 64. There is a door Hotel Nevsky 64. Push buttons 45. Someone answer say girls, dievochki or Ya hatcu smatrit dievochki. Go on 4th floor to door 45. ring bell and go in. They show you normally some 3-7 girls here.
Nevsky 88. Go inside to the yard thru arch direction strip club Gothika, It has new name but never ever go into this place. There is a second arc. On left at second door is bell for 115. Place in 1st floor. Very sexy blond mamasan. Sometimes good girls too.
Nevsky 92. Go inside to yard from Nevsky go to right hand side at end. There is a building at right. Second door has a bell 47. Go in and 3rd floor. There is door 47 and heart in door matress. This place has at l3ast 6 rooms and sometimes almost 10 girls. Some of them very pretty. There is Karina 22 170/50/2,5 breasts. Very very smooth dievochka. Super sexy body and sexy outfit. Makes mouth watering.
All places going rate is 2500 1 hour and 4000 for 2h. Have fun but remember safety. Never do anything without condom. You end up enjoy life more in this way...
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Does anyone know if Mix Photo shut down for good? Their website has been down for a couple weeks and , sadly, it happened just as I was going to contact them to arrange some shoots for me.
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[QUOTE=Explorer69]I have experience from many places in the world. One place to keep away is GOTIKA![/QUOTE]
lol. ditto!
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=957696&postcount=1332[/url]
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Again in Piter, Salon Mumu Newski Pr 90 [url]http://www.mumu-spb.ru/about.html[/url] they have other places too.
htpp://www.rusdosug.com/indi54763.htm Samira speaks little English too, thin Kirgisian girl, all entries ingluded 3000rup/hour, good service and easy to find, very tight anal, what more you can ask for fast visit.
Visited also in Vasiliostrowskin island, 4-Line house 5. Tel .9119287580 (Verba) and 9312553405 (Ganna), really fansy apartment but no girls like pictures, so I leave right away.
Transfer little north girl name Olya tel.9112014816 and Kristina [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi51431.htm[/url] I think it is the same apartment Malbi Prospekt 15, apartment 12 very easy to find no English spoken there. Only klassik 1600rup/hour but girls (3) ok and service good.
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Club update St. Petersburg
Gents,
Can anyone give a quick list of the current best clubs for picking up pros and non pros?
I was here 6 years ago with success, but I have forgotten the names of the bars and discos I went to back then.
Thanks!
RoPickle
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[QUOTE=RoPickle]Gents,
Can anyone give a quick list of the current best clubs for picking up pros and non pros?
I was here 6 years ago with success, but I have forgotten the names of the bars and discos I went to back then.
Thanks!
RoPickle[/QUOTE]Pros there is virtually no club for picking up aside from Marstalls. Occasionally pros are found elsewhere, usually at the bar. For example in Rossi's.
Non-pros, that really depends on what type (and age) girl you are going for. Kindly elaborate.
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Thanks, Doctor
wherever you thing the best pickings are. I'm a fit 40, so i'm happy chasing late 20s-into-40's, can do studenty joints to more upscale if i need to throw a blazer on.
[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Pros there is virtually no club for picking up aside from Marstalls. Occasionally pros are found elsewhere, usually at the bar. For example in Rossi's.
Non-pros, that really depends on what type (and age) girl you are going for. Kindly elaborate.[/QUOTE]
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Konuyshenny Dvor (Marstall)
Is there anyone bringing news from this place? I remember was here two years ago, and one friend of mine asked me something about it.
When I got there I found some freelancers with different prices, ranging from 50 USD$ to 200 USD$ overnight. I took one expensive, but I think it was a good experience.
Thank you in advance.
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Got back from St. P.. Completely forgot about 'Gotika' being Nevsky 88. I ended up there and it's now called 'NightFlight'. I was worried when I had to be buzzed in and asked the girl who gave me the flyer: 'They will allow me out again when I want to leave? ' I had an erotic massage from 'Orla', who I thought was very beautiful. It cost me a fortune and I'm sure the buzzer interval was opportune. Really lovely boobs. Oiling then rubbing them forcefully over my back. Then I rolled over and she started on the front. Rubbing my balls and most of the penis but only occassionally the head. Buzzer sounded. More money please to continue (other, very shrewish girl came in with 2 more free vodkas and asked if I'd like her to join. Which kind offer I declined). Orla then got back to business with those lovely boobs. She was kissing and smothering me so I wasn't complaining. Started to concentrate more on the head with her nipples and a little titty-fucking and after a while she thought I'd suffered enough and let things come to a conclusion. She then let me in the jacuzzi (at exact moment I became seated the fecking buzzer went again but she let me quickly wash myself and I bought another paper towel for the drying. Thinking how many blokes have probably fired the cannon in there, I probably have Hepatitis). I'd spent enough cash (really quite a bit) and after the coat/security guy checked I'd paid the tab, I was buzzed out. Orla was nice (although all three girls were on the tough looking side). Those boobs were just what I needed at that time so I'm not complaining. Maybe I'll get a 'I survived Gotika' T-Shirt printed up.
Happy days.
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[QUOTE=Thepapalstable]I'm sure the buzzer interval was opportune.[/QUOTE]Not sure I understand...
You don't pay for the session, you pay as you go???
What was the total to have Olga rub up against you?
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You'll think I'm a twit but I was drunk and her boobs in my face got me interested. 5000 for 30 minute 'erotic massage' and then another 4000 to continue.The shrewish one said they had some nice girls for me (she mentioned a place but I forget).I didn't really want a *****.Then after watching (it sounded like Orla but maybe Olga,yes) dance and then have those boobs in my face,I was in the mood for female contact at least.Also went to Goldendolls and Playgirls.I wasn't really there for 'sex' but she just caught me in a certain mood.
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[QUOTE=Thepapalstable]Got back from St. P.. Completely forgot about 'Gotika' being Nevsky 88. I ended up there and it's now called 'NightFlight'. I was worried when I had to be buzzed in and asked the girl who gave me the flyer: 'They will allow me out again when I want to leave? ' I had an erotic massage from 'Orla', who I thought was very beautiful. It cost me a fortune and I'm sure the buzzer interval was opportune. Really lovely boobs. Oiling then rubbing them forcefully over my back. Then I rolled over and she started on the front. Rubbing my balls and most of the penis but only occassionally the head. Buzzer sounded. More money please to continue (other, very shrewish girl came in with 2 more free vodkas and asked if I'd like her to join. Which kind offer I declined). Orla then got back to business with those lovely boobs. She was kissing and smothering me so I wasn't complaining. Started to concentrate more on the head with her nipples and a little titty-fucking and after a while she thought I'd suffered enough and let things come to a conclusion. She then let me in the jacuzzi (at exact moment I became seated the fecking buzzer went again but she let me quickly wash myself and I bought another paper towel for the drying. Thinking how many blokes have probably fired the cannon in there, I probably have Hepatitis). I'd spent enough cash (really quite a bit) and after the coat/security guy checked I'd paid the tab, I was buzzed out. Orla was nice (although all three girls were on the tough looking side). Those boobs were just what I needed at that time so I'm not complaining. Maybe I'll get a 'I survived Gotika' T-Shirt printed up.
Happy days.[/QUOTE]
Papalstable
Inquiring minds are more than curious. Guessing the sex was in the wallet.
How much cash did you spend?
So many options in Piter. Check the board for possibilities, I will be there Jan/Feb if you are around for a beer.
Guido88
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2 great hours with Samira from Nevsky 90-92
Inspired by Eas69 [post=1011853]posting[/post], I visited [url=www.rusdosug.com/indi54763.htm]Samira[/url]
Samira is working in an apartment on Nevsky Prospect 90-92, which belongs to an [url=www.mumu-spb.com/mainstart.html]escort agency[/url] (although Samira is not mentioned on their website). The address Nevsky 90-92 actually refers to several buildings with a large courtyard, so the apartment was not easy to find. Luckily, one of the girls spoke good English and guided me to their apartment by phone: just look for a fashion shop called Mango coming from Nevsky prospect and walk into the gateway. Turn right after passing the gate and left again passing a small cafe and a restaurant. The entrance is just before the Tatoo Shop on the right - dial "54+B" to get in. The apartment is located on the 3rd floor on the right.
I had already asked for Samira on the phone, so I was immediately introduced to her by the very friendly girl, that had guided me in. I found Samira even much better looking than on her profile: very slim and a bit shy, but with a sassy look in her eyes and extremely friendly. Her English is sufficient for basic conversations, although she was sometimes using her computer for translations. Prices were exactly as mentioned on the web-site: 2500/4500 RUB for 1/2 hours + 1000 RUB for anal. We immediately connected so I decided to go for 2 hours all included. I am sure I could have gotten it for 5000 RUB after some negotiation, but I did not want to bargain with her to make sure that we have a good time.
What followed was 2 great hours full of sex, kissing and other plays. Samira was clearly eager to please and responded well to all my requests. After the first round, we talked a little, while she constantly playing with my dick. 2nd round was anal, but it was pretty clear that she did not really enjoy it (she is indeed very tight). After short cleaning, she continued giving me another one of her long blow-jobs (unfortunately always covered, as mentioned on her profile - but her hot look during the action definitely made it all up) until she jumped on me for the final 3rd round.
All in all two very enjoyable hours which were definitely worth the price. I would certainly have visited her again, if I had stayed longer in St. Petersburg and would have been tempted to try some of her colleague as well, as the entire apartment looked very friendly and safe.
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[QUOTE=Hendrik]Samira is working in an apartment on Nevsky Prospect 90-92, which belongs to an [url=www.mumu-spb.com/mainstart.html]escort agency[/url] (although Samira is not mentioned on their website).[/QUOTE]She appears on the russian language website. Click on "Девушки".
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Pros there is virtually no club for picking up aside from Marstalls. Occasionally pros are found elsewhere, usually at the bar. For example in Rossi's.
Non-pros, that really depends on what type (and age) girl you are going for. Kindly elaborate.[/QUOTE]Hi doctor,
Do you know where can I get to have sex with vietnamese girls in moscow? Or for a overnight sex?
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Valerya - karamel'ki
Was in SPB last Friday on business and since evening Sapsans were all bookedm, stayed over the Friday night. I didn't hav a piece of tail for several onths and the girlfriend i am courting in Moscow won't let me in her drawers yet, so I was willing and ready. Found a few apartment ads on the Web and chose Karamel'ki - part because they were open till late and part because they had good reviews. when I got there (~200 RUB from Alexander Nevsky square) I had a few girls paraded until Valerya came in, Small-titted, medium-height, brunette with long hair, bronze skin (from solarium, not sun tan) she just set by me, leaned close and i was really swept :). Handed over 3,000 RUB for an hour of all inclusive (their term for FS+anal), she had to go for a few minutes to get ready (call ahead for a particular girl if you want her to be ready when you walk in), got a shower myself (towel, lots of soaps and standard sanitizers, unopened tooth-brash in the bathroom that I used - and we got to the business. Some ball licking, but she quickly plunged ahead, especially since I popped Cialis about 3/4 an hour earlier and was manifestingly ready. CBJ, not bad but I do not like it covered, got her riding on top for a bit, tried muff-diving but she is not into it, changed a few positions and then we went for the ass. First somehow ended up in the position that was not very comfortable to either one of us and she had to run off (maybe to get a bit more prepared), then when she was back, put a new rubber on and she sort of made me go for the ass right away saying she preferred it this way. I willingly complied since I love tight holes (hers was definitely tight, but not too tight) and after a while finished in her ass while she was laying on the side and I half sat behind her. Unusual position for the anal but it worked out just fine - lever stop learning something new :). Offered her to call me if she gets to Moscow or would like to tavel - I would positively like to take her to bed every night? but I have a feeling she is not going to call. So I'll need to find another reason to go to SPb and visit here again, maybe two hours this time.
Mid-night dinner on Nevsky while watching throngs of people coming by set a good night moode and even 6.45 AM train didn't spoil it. i will definitelybe back exploring SPb's scene some more.
I do have their phone somewhere if anyone is interested. Don't know if they speak English - I am a native Russian speaker although my accent always gives me up for a foreigner.
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[QUOTE=Sex Wanderer]Hi doctor,
Do you know where can I get to have sex with vietnamese girls in moscow? Or for a overnight sex?[/QUOTE]Why are you looking for Vietnamese girls in Moscow?
I've never seen one, at least not knowingly.
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[QUOTE=Marsupi31]She appears on the russian language website. Click on "Девушки".[/QUOTE]Yes, she does appear on their website, but only on Russian version
[url]http://www.Mumu-spb.ru/girl_14_6.html[/url]
And here on the "Russian language website"
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi54763.htm[/url]
The weird thing is that I called for her today, and they said she is not working there anymore. WTF! I saw a week old report on her!
I came to St. Petersburg for the weekend, and one of the main "sights' was she. I was looking forward to seeing her so much, and this was such a disappointment =(life sucks without Samira, my heart is broken. LOL
Oh well, going to look for other 'sights' then
But I still think there's a chance the mama-san might've been BS'ing me. For no reason tho. 'because I called from a local number, was polite etc. Anyone who gets any info on that please let us know. The reports on the girl were just great!
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[QUOTE=Alxxx] I came to St. Petersburg for the weekend, and one of the main "sights' was she. I was looking forward to seeing her so much, and this was such a disappointment =(life sucks without Samira, my heart is broken. LOL
Oh well, going to look for other 'sights' then
But I still think there's a chance the mama-san might've been BS'ing me. For no reason tho. 'because I called from a local number, was polite etc. Anyone who gets any info on that please let us know. The reports on the girl were just great![/QUOTE] Why don't you go there and check yourself? The apartment is centrally located close to all other 'sights' - and if Samira is not there, you may also get appetite for one of the other girls. When I went there a few weeks ago, I would have also happily chosen Anna ([url]http://www.mumu-spb.com/girl_1_1.html[/url]), who is even offering BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=Hendrik]Why don't you go there and check yourself? The apartment is centrally located close to all other 'sights' - and if Samira is not there, you may also get appetite for one of the other girls. When I went there a few weeks ago, I would have also happily chosen Anna ([url]http://www.mumu-spb.com/girl_1_1.html[/url]), who is even offering BBBJ.[/QUOTE]My yellow fever doesn't want any other yhere lol.
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[QUOTE=Alxxx]My yellow fever doesn't want any other yhere lol.[/QUOTE] I fully understand, though I am a bit more flexible in that regard ;-) I was also tempted to try Adelina ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi57048.htm[/url]), but did not find the time.
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[QUOTE=Hendrik]Why don't you go there and check yourself? The apartment is centrally located close to all other 'sights' - and if Samira is not there, you may also get appetite for one of the other girls. When I went there a few weeks ago, I would have also happily chosen Anna ([url]http://www.mumu-spb.com/girl_1_1.html[/url]), who is even offering BBBJ.[/QUOTE]
Hendrik
Anna is on my list as well, we share the same tastes. Hope she will still be working in a few months for my next trip.
If not there are still thousands of prime P4P girls in Piter that with a little research can be found and fucked.
Piter is a prime location for light skin and petite bodies. Pricing is getting better everyday.
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Hendrik]I fully understand, though I am a bit more flexible in that regard ;-) I was also tempted to try Adelina ([url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi57048.htm[/url]), but did not find the time.[/QUOTE]I guess what! I found Samira and spent great time with her! God, I love this girl! Haha It turned out she moved to another salon "? " on 1 Serpukhovskaya str.
Well, I'm quite flexible too, but lately I don't want to spend money/time/etc on anything else I heard of Adelina. She looks beautiful, but according to reports on her, that's it. Nothing interesting in bed. Again, according to reports.
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[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Why are you looking for Vietnamese girls in Moscow?
I've never seen one, at least not knowingly.[/QUOTE]They are located near to the vietnamese and Chinese community and they provide service in their apartment. Also according to my girl source they can be booked overnight for only 5000rub for 3 shoots.
So doctor skank do you know where can I find the vietnamese and Chinese community in russia where all of them crowd together? The chervosky market has been gone last year so where are they now?
Please advice if you know where they are.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Eas69]Yes I can confirm that the Zabara boat is still working, and Metro station Gorgovskaja is now open. Price I do not know but 1000 rup sounds about right.
Last time I visited there was about 20 ladies and very good looking. You can have 1-2 hours really nice time fucking in many salon, for the price of entrance and private + few drinks in Zabara. But if you want a strip club this is a good place.[/QUOTE]It seems to be closed. I tried to find him last week but didn't find it.
In the old boat there is only a restaurant and a fitness center.
Maybe I didn't search at the right place.
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What's up you freaks?
I feel like MacMurphy when he returns to the asylum in Cukoo's Nest. Just passing by to say Hello, to my pal Dr. Skank. I cannot convince him to come to Brasil and I have no op to go to SPB these days so we only meet virtually.
Even tho I am in the land of bunda, and the Brasileiras defend their nation's deserved reputation as a sexual paradise. I must admit I still have a hankering for the ladies of Rus every so often. I will say this. The Russian ladies are more unpredictable in bed. I tend to think this is because they do not have as much exposure to love scenes and porn and such, and therefore they have not internalized an idealized way to "perform" in the sack. As is the case with other cultures. The Russian dyevs are more feral. You do not know what you will get. A quiet moaner or a wild screamer. Brasileiras, unfortunately, imo, see far to much sex for their own good, so the ladies are a bit predictable when it comes to bed manner. Now, they compensate for this in other ways, but I still recall with fondness how the Russian lasses could transition from aloof ice princess to ecstatic humptress.
As for unpredictability, just ask Dr. Skank, who can ever forget "Fuck me, Merry Christmas! "
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Mumu again
I was again visiting in St Peter shortly and did not have much time. I cheked few other place also, but price did not mach with the level, so I ended up in Mumu. Maza [url]http://www.mumu-spb.ru/girl_24_15.html[/url] true and recent fotos, did not speak English but we manage to get to to point. Klassik + anal 3500/h, rating almost 9,very good service. In a good and curvy shape and wonderful tits, no hurry and good additude. Address Newsky 92 and door telephone 54B, as earlier.
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Photomodelli
What has happened to Photomodelli ? It has been a while that it is down. Any news ? has it been replaced ? It was really a great place for p4p
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Seeking the help of experts
[QUOTE=Mr Varna]I've been reading the reports off st. P and no doubt the girls there are hot, furthermore there are plenty. I get a feeling that its very difficult to get the girls unless your willing to pay 200usd an hour and more if you really want a beauty. I found this site called rusprostitutes.comthe girls are super hot and cheap, but I wonder if its like some of you say, you call a girl and she will hang up on you or they will send someone who looks different? Are all the girls controlled by a pimp or are some of them freelance. I guess they are all under the mafia since we are in Russia. It just seems like they have different number so maybe some of them would be freelance. Have anyone tried this site?
I would apreciate some advice on this.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I have similar concerns [could not see a reply to original post, sorry]: are the girls/prices at sites like this legit?
Another example: [url]http://spb.otsos.cz/[/url]
Does one often get burned? what are you chances without speaking Russian? Or do experienced guys avoid the apartments and stick with salons?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Ok, so any tips for starting out in St Pete's? I am not a beginner to mongering but not sure what level I'd be considered. Have done the brothels and bus station in Tel Aviv previously a few years ago and had mixed results.
I am hoping and assuming boner pills are obtainable in Russia for tourists? I am young and don't necessarily need them but had good results in TLV with them as they tend to expedite service.
I guess my big concern is with everything being a ripoff in Russia. I am actually going to be there for quite a while so a non-pro/GF could be in the works.
Anywhere to start me off would be nice and I have zero Russian to use.
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[QUOTE=Ziggym]Ok, so any tips for starting out in St Pete's? I am not a beginner to mongering but not sure what level I'd be considered. Have done the brothels and bus station in Tel Aviv previously a few years ago and had mixed results.
I am hoping and assuming boner pills are obtainable in Russia for tourists? I am young and don't necessarily need them but had good results in TLV with them as they tend to expedite service.
I guess my big concern is with everything being a ripoff in Russia. I am actually going to be there for quite a while so a non-pro/GF could be in the works.
Anywhere to start me off would be nice and I have zero Russian to use.[/QUOTE]
Ziggy
The bad people only rip off the newbies who have not read the forum. You did RTFF?
Boner pills available in the pharmacies.
You're going to need to learn a little language. Overall Piter is pretty user friendly and the forum contains all you need.
Guido88
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Yes Guido, I absolutely read the forum before posting. It just doesn't lead me to one easy route.
Like in TLV it was easy to go to a specific address for a nice brothel and $60 for a pretty damn good woman for a half hour. They also had this magazine called Banana and it was partially in English.
Looks like I'm just going to have to be ready for a slightly steeper learning curve. I will study the language specifics the forum has to offer, thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ziggym]Yes Guido, I absolutely read the forum before posting. It just doesn't lead me to one easy route.
Like in TLV it was easy to go to a specific address for a nice brothel and $60 for a pretty damn good woman for a half hour. They also had this magazine called Banana and it was partially in English.
Looks like I'm just going to have to be ready for a slightly steeper learning curve. I will study the language specifics the forum has to offer, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Ziggy
All the below info is in the forum.
The forum has the names of two magazines available at many newsstands that have current girl pics and numbers for Piters salons.
GandJim posted them a couple of years ago and I think I may have as well.
I will post an old cover of one in the photo section.
Old Nevsky has at least dozen salons if not more in a relatively small area.
There is also a link in the ISG forum for a map of the salons. Although they do move around some.
Get some translation software and this site will help your search..
[url]http://forum.amurspb.ru/[/url]
Have a cab driver take you to salons. Will cost you more but is simpler.
Some of the RU dating sites have an Intime section for working girls. Call them and tell them to bring a friend.
If you call a salon and no one speaks English call back later and someone will probably be there that can. My first trip I spoke zero RU and was only able to get laid 2 times a day.
Get the mags call the salons and tell them to send over a couple of girls too choose from. Tell them what you like. Less than an hour they are at your door. Better than a pizza.
As I said Piter is fairly user friendly, biggest difficulty is finding the salons on you own. Hire a gypsy car driver to assist you.
Always use a car at night, both the cops and criminals are looking to rob you.
Guido88
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Hi all,
I'll be in St-Petersburg on friday with just a few free hours, and I'm planning to visit Nevsky 92, it sounds pretty good :-) but what are their opening hours? Can I go there in the afternoon? Do I have to call first?
Thanks a lot in advance for your answers!
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[QUOTE=Guido88]Ziggy
All the below info is in the forum.
The forum has the names of two magazines available at many newsstands that have current girl pics and numbers for Piters salons.
GandJim posted them a couple of years ago and I think I may have as well.[/QUOTE]LOL, ok. That seems to be where we had the misunderstanding. I didn't go back several years of forum posts, but I went back quite a while.
Again, I am between newbie and expert, but certainly neither. You can always verify this by reading my past reports.
Also, where I've mongered in the past meant ever changing landscapes. I think that these cities have that too and with clubs even more so. That is why I don't rely on older info, but Russia is probably different than Israel.
[QUOTE=Guido88]Ziggy
Old Nevsky has at least dozen salons if not more in a relatively small area.
There is also a link in the ISG forum for a map of the salons. Although they do move around some.
Get some translation software and this site will help your search.
[url]http://forum. Amurspb. Ru/[/url]
Have a cab driver take you to salons. Will cost you more but is simpler.
Some of the RU dating sites have an Intime section for working girls. Call them and tell them to bring a friend.
If you call a salon and no one speaks English call back later and someone will probably be there that can. My first trip I spoke zero RU and was only able to get laid 2 times a day.
Get the mags call the salons and tell them to send over a couple of girls too choose from. Tell them what you like. Less than an hour they are at your door. Better than a pizza.
As I said Piter is fairly user friendly, biggest difficulty is finding the salons on you own. Hire a gypsy car driver to assist you.
Always use a car at night, both the cops and criminals are looking to rob you.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Now we get the meat and potatoes! Thanks for the recap. I am only going to be in Pete's for a few weeks before heading to Kiev for an extended stay.
My only friend there is also a con-artist so I basically trust nobody. He's a good friend, but a complete scam. You know how it goes. I automatically distrust all Russians, to be honest.
Anyhow, I will follow your advice and hopefully by next week this time will have a report of my own. Prep work ahead of time always pays.
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Another site
[url]http://sexspb.ru/[/url]
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So this weekend I tried Club Metro (a very popular club) to see what I could see.
It is very expensive to go after 11pm, 450 rubles, but I was running late. We waited in line in the rain while the door man looked tough and important. You get a ticket good for a small beer. They seem to brew their own beer there judging by the kettles, unless they were for decoration. This kind of beer comes in 4 strengths and is very cheap (at least by american standards). Only $2-2.50 a half liter.
Anyhow, I sit at the bar and start to talk to people after some drinks. The entire place is wall to wall hot women. I mean, many young kids in between, but you can't even find an ugly woman unless you try for at least 5 minutes. Many of these are straight 9's and 10's on American's scale.. so impressive and well worth the entrance fee (get there earlier maybe before 8 to get in cheaper) I am probably the only American in the whole place and nobody I talked to spoke more than a little bit of conversational English and was very rusty. A few women came and went and others took their place. The last one to sit next to me is now a friend of mine visiting from Moscow. I also met other weird creepy people perhaps gay or wanting to rip me off, I don't know I was drunk and gave them my skype name and Russian cell #, who cares. They haven't called.
Anyhow, so I did meet a nice couple, one is a woman from Kiev who is very hot and has the "cow eyes" as you say. And me and this couple and the girl who is now my friend sat away from the bar at a table, and then at the bar after everyone left to "close it down" as we say in America. It was good times. The fact I was American made me a bit of a novelty and made it simple to make friends (despite the language barrier).
I have since gone a few "dates" with this girl as she postponed her train back to Moscow to spend more time with me.. but it is weird. We connect very well (we both love Wall-E and Mortal Kombat if you can believe it) but she already told me about her "roolz" including no sex? WTF is that? Despite this I tried to buy some Viagra yesterday at the pharmacy Аптека, apteka. They asked me how many tablets and I said in Russian 4, chetyre, and they brought back a box that said 460 rubles and she said 1 tablet? I left there, it seems they don't have 'potentiale' or any 'generic' like they do in Ukraine? Maybe someone can post more on this.
Anyhow, we went on a second date and now a third and are great friends but who knows what this is. We only get to kiss a bit, which is fine. I am eager to learn more of the customs here. The women are hot and it may just be easier to get a pro before I go as my time here is only a couple of weeks and I'm busy working most of that time.
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[QUOTE=Ziggym]So this weekend I tried Club Metro (a very popular club) to see what I could see.
It is very expensive to go after 11pm, 450 rubles, but I was running late. We waited in line in the rain while the door man looked tough and important. You get a ticket good for a small beer. They seem to brew their own beer there judging by the kettles, unless they were for decoration. This kind of beer comes in 4 strengths and is very cheap (at least by american standards). Only $2-2.50 a half liter.
Anyhow, I sit at the bar and start to talk to people after some drinks. The entire place is wall to wall hot women. I mean, many young kids in between, but you can't even find an ugly woman unless you try for at least 5 minutes. Many of these are straight 9's and 10's on American's scale.. so impressive and well worth the entrance fee (get there earlier maybe before 8 to get in cheaper) I am probably the only American in the whole place and nobody I talked to spoke more than a little bit of conversational English and was very rusty. A few women came and went and others took their place. The last one to sit next to me is now a friend of mine visiting from Moscow. I also met other weird creepy people perhaps gay or wanting to rip me off, I don't know I was drunk and gave them my skype name and Russian cell #, who cares. They haven't called.
Anyhow, so I did meet a nice couple, one is a woman from Kiev who is very hot and has the "cow eyes" as you say. And me and this couple and the girl who is now my friend sat away from the bar at a table, and then at the bar after everyone left to "close it down" as we say in America. It was good times. The fact I was American made me a bit of a novelty and made it simple to make friends (despite the language barrier).
I have since gone a few "dates" with this girl as she postponed her train back to Moscow to spend more time with me.. but it is weird. We connect very well (we both love Wall-E and Mortal Kombat if you can believe it) but she already told me about her "roolz" including no sex? WTF is that? Despite this I tried to buy some Viagra yesterday at the pharmacy Аптека, apteka. They asked me how many tablets and I said in Russian 4, chetyre, and they brought back a box that said 460 rubles and she said 1 tablet? I left there, it seems they don't have 'potentiale' or any 'generic' like they do in Ukraine? Maybe someone can post more on this.
Anyhow, we went on a second date and now a third and are great friends but who knows what this is. We only get to kiss a bit, which is fine. I am eager to learn more of the customs here. The women are hot and it may just be easier to get a pro before I go as my time here is only a couple of weeks and I'm busy working most of that time.[/QUOTE]
Ziggy
God man you need a pussy intervention.
Roolz, no sex? She is playing you for a chump and fucking someone else. Celibacy is not in the RU female's genetic code. The other Americans in the bar were busy getting laid that night......
Hard to believe you traveled that far to allow the same treatment you would receive in the USA from the dreaded American Fem Nazi.
You're in the pussy heaven where the women have been trained for thousands of years on how to properly service a man. Men are expected to have balls and women to obey.
Wet behind the ears and acting like it's your 1st day out of the house the RU women will eat you alive.
At some point you will be asked for money for the "sick grandmother, dying water buffalo, new computer" ect.... For them you are simply a wallet.
It's an old scam that exists in every country. The RU women are very clever; it's an age old game.
Course if you had RTFF you would know that.
No pussy, move on to the next one. Get pussy, still move on to the next one.
You are correct on the numbers of gorgeous women.
Guido88
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Hi all,
few months ago I've found here a reports about making own porn movie ... but I lost it and can't find it. Can anyone help me ? During winter I'm gonna be in Russia, so I want to try it.
Thank
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[QUOTE=Guido88]Ziggy
God man you need a pussy intervention.
Roolz, no sex? She is playing you for a chump and fucking someone else. Celibacy is not in the RU female's genetic code. The other Americans in the bar were busy getting laid that night.
Hard to believe you traveled that far to allow the same treatment you would receive in the USA from the dreaded American Fem Nazi.
You're in the pussy heaven where the women have been trained for thousands of years on how to properly service a man. Men are expected to have balls and women to obey.
Wet behind the ears and acting like it's your 1st day out of the house the RU women will eat you alive.
At some point you will be asked for money for the "sick grandmother, dying water buffalo, new computer" ect. For them you are simply a wallet.
It's an old scam that exists in every country. The RU women are very clever; it's an age old game.
Course if you had RTFF you would know that.
No pussy, move on to the next one. Get pussy, still move on to the next one.
You are correct on the numbers of gorgeous women.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Hehe, thanks man. Actually I'm happy to say you and I both were wrong and it wasn't a scam or anything serious. No money exchanged hangs (besides for a few beers and some french meat skillets). I recieved a text shortly after dropping her off at the train station. She doesn't live along. In other words, married.
I was too stupid to realize this since I was looking at her left hand for a ring and it was on the right ALL ALONG! God dammit, they do this different here. \
Oh well, we remain good friends. I learned much about the language and the culture. She was just on a vacation and happy to connect with someone charming like myself.
I'm headed to Nievsky 90 bordello tomorrow, if only I can ditch all the friends I have from work. They can't know I'm a poon houdn. I have already walked by the side street and the Mango place described here, I should be able to find it.
Review forthcoming.
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So sort of angry right now at myself because I've been with work friends all weekend and not much free time is left now that they've gone home and I have the apartment to myself.
Anyhow, I called up to Nievesky 90 or whatever the place is (in the notes it seems to be the closest to me and best place for English speakers) but they answer and can only say tomorrow tomorrow. I mean come on, it was like only 930 on a Sunday night and they tell me they are all closed up? The other location said they could have maybe 3 girls for me but needed to know what time and when I now called back they say also 'tomorrow. '
Dammit, I tried some other girls from the history but they have no english and I have no Russian in order to get a car to them. Also I think I got ripped off at the apteka (pharmacy) by them selling me some fucked up Asian herbs, "ALI CAPSA" aka tongkat extract. Shit cost me 480 rubles for 4 pills and here it's just herb. Let's hope some shady Chinamen laced it with viagral like the last time I had some (google vigor-25 and you'll see). That was my first time doing viagra and I didn't even know it.
Anyhow, so I didn't want to spend 600 some rubles for 1 viagra pill. That is a bullshit trick because the same pharmacy showed me one for 450 a few days ago. Grrr, I'm getting culture shocked.
Anyhow, what to do. Someone is screaming. I think I'm just going to try and go to bed horny and on testosterone from taking one of these pills and wake up refreshed in the morning ready to finally get some puss.
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So 8am and I call over to Mumu Nvesky 90 and they keep picking up and hanging up on me. Ok.
I pop a sleeping pill and force myself down into the ether for about 5 hours, wake up and call them at 1:30.
Hello? How many girls working? She gives the name of chityre, 4 girls. I forget the names but at least one is familiar.
So I pop my herbal extract pill and am feeling pretty hot and pumped with testosterone when I finally arrive at the now infamous apartment 54+B buzzer. I hit the buzzer, she answers and hangs up after yelling something in Russian. I wonder if I got the wrong place because I had said Devotchki, and call back. Same thing. Then I call the phone, sure enough it's her same voice. This is her. This time she tells me to come in 2 hours, I say WHAT THE FUCK? I AM HERE NOW!
I call the buzzer again and she says 2 hours 2 hours come back she's busy new. Then it's 4. Can you believe this Pisda actually has the tamarity to tell me 4 girls working there and in a half hour she's busy?
I've been here 2 weeks and only now for a few more days. Zero pussy. I can't even give my rubles away. So now I went to Pizza Hut for some shitty lunch and went back home. I don't have all god damn day to mess with this shit. I couldn't find Nvesky 88 using the instructions here. 64 was too far a walk and didn't want to arrive with sweaty balls.
Please advise! I leave Thursday!
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[QUOTE=Freejay]Hi all,
few months ago I've found here a reports about making own porn movie ... but I lost it and can't find it. Can anyone help me ? During winter I'm gonna be in Russia, so I want to try it.[/QUOTE]
Search this thread for "mixphoto" and "Shelbysbaker" and you will find a series of reports about this back in mid-2007. I think Catalyst also did some of this. But the agency Shelbysbaker used - Mixphoto - does not seem to exist anymore (or at least not the web-site), but maybe there were others mentioned in the reports.
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[QUOTE=Ziggym]
Please advise! I leave Thursday![/QUOTE]
Ziggy,
There are 4736 profiles on rambler/mamba meeting the criteria of woman, 18-30 looking for sex in St.Petersburg.
I suggest getting on there, making a profile and start hooking up with these girls! The ones with their name in purple have "sex for money" as part of their profile, you could start there, although almost all of them will Предлагаю интим за деньги. Spend some time going through the profiles, pick a dozen and then contact them!
Go and find the university or the English (or your mother language) institute and hang out around there, listen for your language being spoken and then strike up a conversation - play the lost tourist, dress nicely and play the smart businessman, take a nice camera if you have one and pretend to be a photographer from vogue...if you have money, the will and imagination you cannot fail! I'm not familar with the St. Pete scene, but these three things haven't failed me anywhere else in Russia.
Good Luck.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Dogger862]Ziggy,
There are 4736 profiles on rambler/mamba meeting the criteria of woman, 18-30 looking for sex in St.Petersburg.
I suggest getting on there, making a profile and start hooking up with these girls! The ones with their name in purple have "sex for money" as part of their profile, you could start there, although almost all of them will Предлагаю интим за деньги. Spend some time going through the profiles, pick a dozen and then contact them!
Go and find the university or the English (or your mother language) institute and hang out around there, listen for your language being spoken and then strike up a conversation - play the lost tourist, dress nicely and play the smart businessman, take a nice camera if you have one and pretend to be a photographer from vogue...if you have money, the will and imagination you cannot fail! I'm not familar with the St. Pete scene, but these three things haven't failed me anywhere else in Russia.
Good Luck.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks man! Unfortunately I have wasted my time working nights (trying to keep business going back in the states 9-5 while I'm here having some fun but basically weekends after 60 hour weeks of nighttime). And, as I said, I have here only 3 days left. If that. Not even that.
I just now walked AGAIN past the Metro Club as it got out at 6am and I must say that is a goldmine. I was winked at by a rather large girl for a freebie probably but I need something to remember this city by. I hang out with hot women for work but they are not going to find out I'm a mongerer and not sluts so I must work on them when I return again maybe January if I'm lucky.
I need a quick, easy, English speaking hot as fuck wham bamn thank you man preferably teenaged semi-pro not ridden hard put away wet old *****s. But at this point I'd go for just about anything and pay 5k rubles for it.
As a gesture of good faith I have just purchased a membership so can receive PM's hopefully shortly. I've done good by ISG before in other countries, so I'm desperate for help now as the blueballs have my mind and judgement clouded.
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Last chance
[QUOTE=Ziggym]I've been here 2 weeks and only now for a few more days. Zero pussy. I can't even give my rubles away. So now I went to Pizza Hut for some shitty lunch and went back home. I don't have all god damn day to mess with this shit. I couldn't find Nvesky 88 using the instructions here. 64 was too far a walk and didn't want to arrive with sweaty balls.
Please advise! I leave Thursday![/QUOTE]
Or try [url]www.rusdosug.ru[/url]
They have an English version of the web-site and an option to search girls by English language skills, price, location, etc.
Lots of options around or under $100, in and out. At least 60 who claim to speak English.
Never used this web-site myself, but I understand that they are relatively good, as far as these things go.
Some of the girls are independents, but many appear to be in salons, even if they are not listed as such.
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So finally got the english woman at Nvesky 90 Apt 54-B, her name is Karmela I think? She's actually quite nice (although not that good looking at all, maybe she's at a discount rate). They buzzed me in at noon as I had told her on the phone this time to be sure.
The place is very easy. The directions on here were weird, but you go straight into the alley from Nvesky where the Mango store is (not an actual street). Then you hang a right at what appears to be some hotel and it's parking for limos. Just follow the road as it curves slightly there and then straightens out. If you look for the signs that say Baraka Tattoo you are on track, it's next door.
Anyhow, of the two other girls I chose Dina, but as soon as the other one tossed off her towel I almost changed my mind.
Anyhow, Dina has a bangin body and is very shy and demure. She speaks nearly zero english so needed some interpretor help at times. She did a great BJ with condom then ontop did some crazy snappin gyro hipwork on me.
After that popshot we sat and stared at eachother and 'talked' with the few words she has about her interests like sushi and shopping (no dancing or clubs). Then I asked her to use her hand on me and she did a good job and then I made the sign for BJ again and she said "Oral sex? " and I said "the" and she went right down on me BBBJ. I was kinda pissed and started but WTF, how can I stop her?
Well her teeth got me annoyed and I wanted doggy so did stop her and finished up there.
***Now, what is the protocol here? 29 minutes had passed since I entered the room and took off my clothes for a shower? *** I had popped twice. I asked her for a smoke and we hung out. I showered and dressed and left with a good 20 minutes still on the clock if not more. Is it fair to a girl to use up that full hour slammin the shit out of her?
I felt I had my money's worth. Plus she liked me enough to forgive a whole 1000 ruble dispute over that BBBJ that I insisted I did not want. Now I'm paranoid my dick is going to fall off.
Anyhow, I'll probably be heading back there again since my departure was pushed back. The place is very nice.
Oh and one more question. Where in the hell can I get cheap boner pills here? I'm sick of being charged 480 rubles for 25 mg viagras or even more when they don't have the small ones. Is cialis cheaper? They seem to not know the word 'generic. '
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[QUOTE=Ziggym]
Is it fair to a girl to use up that full hour slammin the shit out of her?
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Ziggy,
It's your money, but I use up every second that I paid for - and the girl would expect nothing less. There will be plenty of times when they are hustling you out the door when the times up, ready or not.
However, if you feel you got your money's worth, then that's all that really counts.
I find Cialis to be better value than Viagra (3 days effect as opposed to one) but if you've only got one day then stick to the V.
Glad to hear you've finally got laid in Candyland.
Cheers,
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[QUOTE=Dogger862]Ziggy,
It's your money, but I use up every second that I paid for - and the girl would expect nothing less. There will be plenty of times when they are hustling you out the door when the times up, ready or not.
However, if you feel you got your money's worth, then that's all that really counts.
I find Cialis to be better value than Viagra (3 days effect as opposed to one) but if you've only got one day then stick to the V.
Glad to hear you've finally got laid in Candyland.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]Thanks pimp! Good info.
I was supposed to leave today but, now I'm stuck here in Russia.. wait no, Russia is stuck with me!
I guess I'm used to where I started mongering in Tel Aviv and you paid $60 for a half hour and they rush you out, buzzer and all. This is something I should enjoy.
I am going to pop a cialis then and get my full time in.
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[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel]Search this thread for "mixphoto" and "Shelbysbaker" and you will find a series of reports about this back in mid-2007. I think Catalyst also did some of this. But the agency Shelbysbaker used - Mixphoto - does not seem to exist anymore (or at least not the web-site), but maybe there were others mentioned in the reports.[/QUOTE]
Mixphoto closed down last year. Elena, the owner, is now living in Phuket in Thailand!
[url]www.russiansexmodels.com[/url] may be able to offer a similar service.
In Prague, Patrik Models offers the chance to "star in your own porn movie", for a fully-inclusive fee of Euros 1200 : [url]www.patrikmodels.com[/url]
Enjoy!
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Nvesky 90 today sucked. At 2pm they had their phone shut off and wouldn't answer. Went back at 7pm and popped Cialis and went up (with this babushka behind me hehe). Only girls there were both fat and gross. I went with the less gross one because I think I felt like punishing myself. Plus it was more realistic that way.
Anyhow, Mila here name was. Very cool girl, good English and good hands and tongue skills (although I swear it felt kinda scratchy at times). Popped twice and couldn't a 3rd time but got a decent foot rub out of the deal. Also she hung out and told me about her time spent in Germany blah blah blah. Whatever, it wasn't worth 2500 but it was something. Oh also she annoyed me by constantly going "Mmmm mmmm" and almost breaking my boner off at least twice by fucking badly. It still aches.
Also I think in my last review I mistakenly called Anna by the name of Dina? I think on the site it's Anna. She's smokin. These fuggly ones have to go though.
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[QUOTE=Eros123]Mixphoto closed down last year. Elena, the owner, is now living in Phuket in Thailand!
[url]www.russiansexmodels.com[/url] may be able to offer a similar service.
In Prague, Patrik Models offers the chance to "star in your own porn movie", for a fully-inclusive fee of Euros 1200 : [url]www.patrikmodels.com[/url]
Enjoy![/QUOTE]
Correct me if I am wrong but I think some European porn studies are opening franchises or moving their headquarters to Saint Petersburg. At least I've noticed a couple of cases for example relative medium size XXX studio in Madrid used to have its "talent search" agents in Prague and Budapest and now they prefer Saint Petersburg. They say girls are hotter and production cost are a little bit lower in comparison to Prague or Budapest. Also they said it is one of the reasons of of why web cam girls (amateur strippers) based in Russia have multiplied in the recent years.
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Update on best clubs for pay-for-play
Hi guys,
I'm back in St. Petersburg--4 years ago there used to be a good club/disco on Nevseky, towards the train station, that was filled with semi-pros and pros on the weekends. I can't find it now.
If anyone has a minute, can you please give a quick, bullet point run down on the best places to meet semi's and pros?
Thanks,
RP
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[QUOTE=RoPickle]Hi guys,
I'm back in St. Petersburg--4 years ago there used to be a good club/disco on Nevseky, towards the train station, that was filled with semi-pros and pros on the weekends. I can't find it now.
If anyone has a minute, can you please give a quick, bullet point run down on the best places to meet semi's and pros?
Thanks,
RP[/QUOTE] I believe that was Magrib.
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Magrib replacement
[QUOTE=Jake993]I believe that was Magrib.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Is there a new equivalent these days?
Thanks,
RP
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[QUOTE=RoPickle]Exactly. Is there a new equivalent these days?
Thanks,
RP[/QUOTE]
For me Rossi's was much better than Magrib, cause you have also regular students at Rossi's and it is 10 minutes walking from Magrib.
And ok, I am speaking about 2 years ago, but I guess it did not change too much, many pros at late night if they did not find customers, move from Magrib to Rossi's.
Waiting for your report ;)
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Old and new
Again visit in St Peter. First some small hotel near center, address Vosstaniya ulitsa 16, Name Akvareli, one night 2000R/night ingluding breakfast. No security, and women in reseption does not scan very closely, the traffic in staircase. There is another hotel with same name in Newski Pr 136, but I have not been there.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=1067[/url] visited here Tel.9312305052 address is 32 Ulitsa Zhukovskogo, apartment 5, there was four candidates, including Alisa, that I had seen in advance in the internet (she was presented under the name Daza), also MEGAboob Victoria and real porn looking young tight body brunette with silikon boobjob?? and tired looking older blonde. I almost swich Alisa to this porn brunette, but then I decided to stick to the plan.
The was some broblems with apartment, so Alisa proposed that we move to another location. I just said that my hotel would be around the corner, so we agreed to go there. It was only about 150m, but they insist that we go by car. I paid the car driver 1h set with anal 4000R. Alisa arrived in the room called the room number to the madam, who probably started the clock at that stage.
A bit uncertain beginning (she was trying to put the condom on, before proper hardon) thing started going pretty well, all the normal and abnormal positions that came to my mind was tried. She had a good attitude and a beautiful body, the images was 100% of hers. She was speaking some English but with wery basic vocabulary.
I would recommend this place. Inspecially Alisa, if you keep the neighbor's girly revelation. Although the price (93 €) is perhaps little high as measured by the Russian standards (there was extra 1000 for hotel visit, even it was agreed together, that this was the best option). I was happy and would bossible go again.
Another treatment was Anastasia [url]http://karamelki.com/ank[/url], Firs I went to the Grivtsova Ul 3 Tel +78129563083, on the street under balcony was entrance, apartment 41. There was not girls that I liked, so they called another place Dekabristov Ul 53, apartment 35 Tel 78,129564310, there was only one staircase facing the street. There was Anastasiya that met my criteria (slim + anal), also other girls come on showing themselfs, including Kristina that you can also see in the internet pages, she is almost too skinny for my taste.
English they did not speak well in Degabristov, but however things went on wery well. Basic rounds with a young tight body girl, was wery good in every point of wiew 1h 3000R. In the face, was a little acne markigns, but the body was in my level about 9. In the website there is some kind of an indicative roster, which I think is an excellent addition to the demanding monger like me.
I also went to the Coyote Ugly bar in Liteynyy Pr 57 and I must say that was not ugly coyotes, but beautiful young women. If you do not like these women, then I think that you shoul come back to earth, from your dreamland. It is a totally different matter, whether you can take any of them with you outside the bar. There was another crowded bar wery near (about 50 m), but I can not remember the name.
Again, financially poorer, but richer about the experiences, I will end my report here.
Ps 4.10 evening there was about 10km line of cars (waiting 8-12 hours) to go to the Russian customs in Svetogorsk border crossing point.
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[QUOTE=Eas69]I also went to the Coyote Ugly bar in Liteynyy Pr 57 and I must say that was not ugly coyotes, but beautiful young women. If you do not like these women, then I think that you shoul come back to earth, from your dreamland. It is a totally different matter, whether you can take any of them with you outside the bar. There was another crowded bar wery near (about 50 m), but I can not remember the name.[/QUOTE]Coyote Ugly is that a bar with working girls?
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Working or not
To Explorer: I think it is not place for working girls, but cannot be shure. At least there was no active offers made in my direction. You can always make on offer, and see what happens.
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[QUOTE=Eas69]Another treatment was Anastasia [url]http://karamelki.com/ank[/url], Firs I went to the Grivtsova Ul 3 Tel +78129563083, on the street under balcony was entrance, apartment 41.
There was not girls that I liked, so they called another place Dekabristov Ul 53, apartment 35 Tel 78,129564310, there was only one staircase facing the street. There was Anastasiya that met my criteria (slim + anal), also other girls come on showing themselfs, including Kristina that you can also see in the internet pages, she is almost too skinny for my taste.
English they did not speak well in Degabristov, but however things went on wery well. Basic rounds with a young tight body girl, was wery good in every point of wiew 1h 3000R. In the face, was a little acne markigns, but the body was in my level about 9. In the website there is some kind of an indicative roster, which I think is an excellent addition to the demanding monger like me. [/QUOTE]Thank you for your report! This is the one that made me hopeful to get some P4P in St Petersburg this weekend!
I just tried to go to the Karamelki at Grivtsova Ul 3 but with no luck. I found the place and managed to get in to the courtyard behind another person thru the gate. Once inside I tried locate the apartment number 41, but could not find it. Then I tried to phone the girls twice for at least 5 min each and talked to at least 3 different girls and nobody understood me. They just told me the address and the price, but just wouldn't let me inside. Are you sure about the number 41? How did you get inside the apartment once you entered the courtyard?
I will try the other place at Dekabristov Ul later tonight or tomorrow and hope things will go better there. Are you sure about the apartment number 35 at that place?
I wish I had some russian language skills.
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Karamelki.com
[QUOTE=Bobby Ewing]I will try the other place at Dekabristov Ul later tonight or tomorrow and hope things will go better there. Are you sure about the apartment number 35 at that place?[/QUOTE]Yesterday I went to Dekabristow 53 and once again followed another person thru the door into the stairs. I went upstairs looking for apartment 35 mentioned by Eas69. On the third or fourth floor I found the door with a separate doorbell with the number 35 and an arrow to the doorbell. I called the apartment on +7 812 956 43 10, pushed the doorbell and tried to tell the girls I was standing outside their door. It was difficult to make them understand again. But I could hear her talk thru the door at the same time as in my phone, so I knew I was at the right place. I started to knock on the door and finally she opened!
Once inside she told me they have four girls to choose from and I asked for a presentation of them all, so I could make my decision.
I choose Margot:
[url]http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://karamelki.com/ank/ankdek/178-margo&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhg9DHrG016Uoww5cJ_ZKkigcZHF3A[/url]
Margot was very sweet and truly a GFE! It says on her webpage that she is inexperienced and I'm sure that must be true. It felt like I was having sex with a virgin, not only new in the business but a virgin in having sex at all!
When I went down on her, she really enjoyed it and got soaking wet and finally had an orgasm. I have been mongering for 12 years and this was one of the rare cases where I'm totally sure she wasn't acting but acctually had an orgasm for real. Somebody must teach her how to perform a BJ though. She didn't understand any English or German and I don't understand any Russian so the communication was very limited.
Karamelki has a webpage with lots of photos of the girls as you could see above. The photos of Margot are real and not photoshoped in any way that I can see. Also they have a timetable where you can see which girls are available at respective apartment. If only they could improve for the procedure to enter the apartments and maybe translate the webpages to English it would be very good apartment brothels.
[url]http://karamelki.com/[/url]
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For Bobby
In the Grivtsova 3 you should not enter the courtyard at all, but there is one staircase under balcony in the street and in there is apartment 41, sorry if I was misleading you =)
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Girl Friendly Hotels?
Hi Guys,
I have been lurking on this forum for a little while now. After so much vicarious living (reading!) it looks like I will be finally going to Saint Petersburg in either March or April. It will be my first time in Russia, and as it is my first time and my Russian is practically non-existent I have decided to book a hotel. The problem is I don't have a clue about what a good 'girl-friendly' hotel. By the sound of its pretty hard to involve some bribing / tipping of hotel employees, but perhaps some hotels are better than others?
I am looking for a 3 or 4 star hotel, ideally somewhere quite central. Running a search for hotel on the forum, I got a lot of hits, though unfortunately a lot of these hits were from 5, 6.7 years ago. A lot can change in 5 years.ownership, personal, etc. So, I thought I'd ask.
So, does anyone have any suggestions for me. Thanks in advance. In a couple of months you will be inflicted with my rookie report. Not much of an incentive is it!
Best,
Andrew
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I was in Spb 3 weeks ago, stayed at Park Inn Pulkovskaya, not in the city center but very girl-friendly and also Holiday Inn is girl-friendly and there is a bar called 4X at the hotel with a lot of semi-pros. Great fun.
[QUOTE=Andrew T; 1109455]Hi Guys,
I have been lurking on this forum for a little while now. After so much vicarious living (reading!) it looks like I will be finally going to Saint Petersburg in either March or April. It will be my first time in Russia, and as it is my first time and my Russian is practically non-existent I have decided to book a hotel. The problem is I don't have a clue about what a good 'girl-friendly' hotel. By the sound of its pretty hard to involve some bribing / tipping of hotel employees, but perhaps some hotels are better than others?
I am looking for a 3 or 4 star hotel, ideally somewhere quite central. Running a search for hotel on the forum, I got a lot of hits, though unfortunately a lot of these hits were from 5, 6.7 years ago. A lot can change in 5 years. Ownership, personal, etc. So, I thought I'd ask.
So, does anyone have any suggestions for me. Thanks in advance. In a couple of months you will be inflicted with my rookie report. Not much of an incentive is it!
Best,
Andrew[/QUOTE]
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Bar with semi-pros
[QUOTE=Hakan Demir;1109629]I was in Spb 3 weeks ago, stayed at Park Inn Pulkovskaya, not in the city center but very girl-friendly and also Holiday Inn is girl-friendly and there is a bar called 4X at the hotel with a lot of semi-pros. Great fun.[/QUOTE]The bar 4X, is that in the Holiday Inn? And exactly where is Holiday Inn?
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I am not sure where exactly the hotel is, cause a local friend took me there, but it was close to a metro station called Moskovskaya. And there are a couple of 4X bars I guess cause I also visited another with an old decoration and with old photos hanging on the wall, too but no working girls, just students.
[QUOTE=Explorer69;1109707]The bar 4X, is that in the Holiday Inn? And exactly where is Holiday Inn?[/QUOTE]
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Consering this site is it real
I wonder if any of you guys have been using this site. Is it real?
It seems to be to cheap since of what I know escorts are really expensive in russia.
The site is [url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/[/url]
Look at the prices 30 euro for one hour it seems to cheap
Look at this girl [url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/showgirls.php?ank=3563#6[/url], does she look like she only charges 20 euro for a hour session, which is to cheap for russia because I have this in my head that russia is really expensive.
Also does anybody know how to get a chep hotel and visa thourgh a agency if you want to go to petersbourg
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Mostly fake
I would say most are fake. I have actually seen some of those photos in other escort and nudes sites. I went through several pages and found one that seemed real.
[url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/showgirls.php?ank=3289#6[/url]
[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1120226]I wonder if any of you guys have been using this site. Is it real?
It seems to be to cheap since of what I know escorts are really expensive in russia.
The site is.
[url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/[/url]
Look at the prices 30 euro for one hour it seems to cheap
Look at this girl.
[url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/showgirls.php?ank=3563#6[/url]
, does she look like she only charges 20 euro for a hour session, which is to cheap for russia because I have this in my head that russia is really expensive.
Also does anybody know how to get a chep hotel and visa thourgh a agency if you want to go to petersbourg[/QUOTE]
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Fake
[QUOTE=Stevie69; 1120491]I would say most are fake. I have actually seen some of those photos in other escort and nudes sites. I went through several pages and found one that seemed real.
[url]http://www.rusprostitute.com/showgirls.php?ank=3289#6[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info
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Help me!
Hello!
I am new here and my english writing is not so good. I preciate some info from you inside here on this forum.
I go to St. Pet 11-14 marz. Stay in "Holiday Inn Hotel" in Mayakovskaya near airport. Do you know about some salons near? Name? Taxidrivers maybe know?
Or is it other places in city where its easy to find salon and maybe they speak english?
And: Is there any hotels in St. Pet where its no problem taking girls too room? I know in other countries its security and reseption who stop the girls and bla, bla, bla. Give me a name of some "good" hotels in St. Pet please.
Thanks for help.
From a "beginner"
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Beginner
[QUOTE=Jan Olsen; 1124345]Hello!
I am new here and my english writing is not so good. I preciate some info from you inside here on this forum.
I go to St. Pet 11-14 marz. Stay in "Holiday Inn Hotel" in Mayakovskaya near airport. Do you know about some salons near? Name? Taxidrivers maybe know?
Or is it other places in city where its easy to find salon and maybe they speak english?
And: Is there any hotels in St. Pet where its no problem taking girls too room? I know in other countries its security and reseption who stop the girls and bla, bla, bla. Give me a name of some "good" hotels in St. Pet please.
Thanks for help.
From a "beginner"[/QUOTE]There is a site were you could look, rusprostitute. Com for escort
There are also a site with cheap hotels at agoda. Com
As you said ask taxi drivers.
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St Pete in April
Hi All.
I've been reading up on this thread but I must say there are not as many posts as one would expect. I'm not sure what the reason for that is but it might bee the complicated manner of getting a Russian visa. At this moment I have all the necessary paperwork but I still have to go to the consulate in the middle of a working day to turn in the papers and my passport and then do the same a week ater to get the passport with the visa back. That is losing 2 work days just messing aroound with the visa, since they won't let you send it in. I think next time I'll try Kiev to avoid all the hassle. This is my first time there though so if I have a really good time it might be worth the hassle.
The mongering scene seems to be a hassle as well. There are clubs that have different locations and that might or might not let you in. Also you do not know which girl is where. Seems pretty complex for some poonani.
I have the drawbridge schedule but I do not know all the bridges so basically I have to be on the right side of the river after 02:00.
There are a few questions I was hoping to get answered. I really hope my hotel does not have any objections to having some girls over or that will ruin it a lot for me.
Which cab company should I use?
Should one bring a lot of $US since the euro is pretty strong changing some $us seems like a good idea? Then again carrying around too much cash might be risky since the cops apparently rob you from time to time? Any suggestion what currency and how much one should bring for one week? (US$ or Euro) I know I can get rubels from the ATMs.
What type of prepaid card should I get? How do I say:
I would like to buy a starter card for prepaid.
I would like a refill for my cellphone.
Maybe it is smarter to meet the girl outside and then bring her in to the hotel? How do you say:
I'll meet you outside the hotel in 30 minutes?
Call me when you're outside and I'll come out.
I'm in room
I'm buying a detailed map of the city as soon as I get there and I'm hoping that will be enough to have a good time. Any help is appreciated.
Best regards.
N
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[QUOTE=Night Crawler; 1141174]Hi All.
I've been reading up on this thread but I must say there are not as many posts as one would expect. I'm not sure what the reason for that is but it might bee the complicated manner of getting a Russian visa. At this moment I have all the necessary paperwork but I still have to go to the consulate in the middle of a working day to turn in the papers and my passport and then do the same a week ater to get the passport with the visa back. That is losing 2 work days just messing aroound with the visa, since they won't let you send it in. I think next time I'll try Kiev to avoid all the hassle. This is my first time there though so if I have a really good time it might be worth the hassle.
The mongering scene seems to be a hassle as well. There are clubs that have different locations and that might or might not let you in. Also you do not know which girl is where. Seems pretty complex for some poonani.
I have the drawbridge schedule but I do not know all the bridges so basically I have to be on the right side of the river after 02:00.
There are a few questions I was hoping to get answered. I really hope my hotel does not have any objections to having some girls over or that will ruin it a lot for me.
Which cab company should I use?
Should one bring a lot of $US since the euro is pretty strong changing some $us seems like a good idea? Then again carrying around too much cash might be risky since the cops apparently rob you from time to time? Any suggestion what currency and how much one should bring for one week? (US$ or Euro) I know I can get rubels from the ATMs.
What type of prepaid card should I get? How do I say:
I would like to buy a starter card for prepaid.
I would like a refill for my cellphone.
Maybe it is smarter to meet the girl outside and then bring her in to the hotel? How do you say:
I'll meet you outside the hotel in 30 minutes?
Call me when you're outside and I'll come out.
I'm in room
I'm buying a detailed map of the city as soon as I get there and I'm hoping that will be enough to have a good time. Any help is appreciated.
Best regards.
N[/QUOTE]Hi man.
I will going to SP like tourist in this month and I have 28 years old and my economy is not sufficient, I will stay in the Pribaltyskaya Hotel from April 20 to April 22.
I would like to meet people for go to clubs.
Greetings
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Thna you
[QUOTE=Across69; 961252]This is an update of a post I made on this board a few years ago. I have not hobbied in Russia for a while but I have visited. The biggest change I notice about SPG and Russia in general is that meeting foreigners is not such a big deal for them anymore. I miss the sensation of being the "exotic foreigner" on my first visits to SPG and later to old Novgorod. In my future visits I will go to smaller towns to try to get back that "new foreigner" vibe.
I like the idea of only carrying a copy of your visa and passport. I did not know that this was acceptable.
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1. Avoid Golden Dolls and Maximus strip club (and apperently all other strip clubs in SPG) unless you are very rich and like to be hassled and ripped off.
2. Russian women seem to like foreigners, so getting lucky (for free) here seems to be pretty easy. (This part seems to be that most changed since my first visit 9 years ago.)
3. Marstals, Magrib and Tribunal bar late at night (after 1am) are great places to find pros and non-pros (but some of the working women have been there for several years. I saw a woman I took home 4 years before still at Marstals)
4. Never pay more than $150 for the WHOLE NIGHT with ANY girl you meet at a bar. (You need to see the more recent posts for the current FAIR rates and don't screw it up for everyone else by overpaying)
5. Let the woman do all the talking with your hotel security and be prepared to pay $2-$10 hush money. (Maybe slightly higher now)
6. There are Pros in almost all SPG hotels but they are usually way overpriced. Make sure you agree on all terms with her before you give the hotel mafia / pimp guy any money.
7. You can avoid the whole hotel / security issue by renting an apartment. (The easiest way to register your visa within the first 72 hours as required is to spend just your first night in a hotel)
8. Taxis are cheap, so use them late at night. Remember the police are NOT there to help you! (I also got mugged by 2 cops and lost $300. I did the whole police report thing not expecting to get the money back but so they would have to share, because I gave very, very detailed descriptions of the 2 assholes.)
9. ALWAYS pay attention to the drawbridge schedule late at night (with a safety margin) if you are going to cross the Neva. (Missing the bridges was the originating incident that got me mugged)
10. ATM machines are everywhere and you avoid the risks of carrying a lot of money. You usually get an okay rate and you don't have to deal with the money exchange jerks.
Good luck and safe mongering! [/QUOTE]Thank you for this mandamants! It's very good information.
Do you have for Moscow?
Thank you and greetings.
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[QUOTE=Night Crawler; 1141174]I really hope my hotel does not have any objections to having some girls over or that will ruin it a lot for me.
Which cab company should I use? [/QUOTE]Don't fear friend as there are many good in-call places to get a snack in Piter. Look through my previous posts here if you need help.
[QUOTE=Night Crawler;1141174]Which cab company should I use?[/QUOTE]LOL! Do you speak Russian? Even if just a little bit, you will use no cab service just whichever car pulls over to offer you a ride. It works out quite well and is a bit more expensive thank say Ukraine, but it's very convenient and safe.
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Update on Pieter
I have found the information on this forum very useful but have noticed that it has not been updated for Pieter for a bit. Therefore I thought I would give something back!
I was in Pieter for a couple of weeks last year (so some of the info maybe out of date but more recent than most) and the following are some of things that I learned:
1. When you arrive at the airport use Taxi group it is a yellow sign with white taxis and costs 700 roubles into the centre. If they are not available look for the other official taxis they will be a bit more expensive but not much. Do not be surprised if the cab fare back to the airport is much more expensive that is unfortunately standard.
2. For anyone who doesn't speak Russian the easiest way to find P4P girls is to go to one of the strip clubs (I went to Maximus at 8 Kirpichniy). Don't go in but go to one of the taxi's waiting outside. They know what guys want when coming out of a strip club. They will hand you a couple of booklets and you can pick the salon and girl you want to go to. They will then drive you there. For this I paid 3000 ruoble an hour rather than the standard 2000 roubles but it got my stay in Pieter off to a good start. I got a very pretty girl (19 yo brunette student 5'6 with medium sized breasts) for this but it was covered oral (which is standard in Pieter) , I am not a back-door man so don't know if this was on offer. At the end the girl gave me her number and although I intended to see again there were too many other experiences for me to re-visit.
3. Later in the stay I also visited VIP escort. This seems to be a collection of salons. Their website per the booklet I got is:
[url]www.elis-spb.ru[/url]
I met Varvara (near metro chernshevckaya salon number 951-40-10) who was blond and I am sure older than the 19 per her photos and was not as good looking. Again it was covered oral but we had sex in a couple of positions. Then she got on top and I found out why Russian girls are so good in bed. She made me cum more intensely than any girl has done before or since. I still don't know what she did but it surprised me!
4. Next I experienced the mini-hotels of pieter. These were the best at the salons you tend to get a choice of 5/6 girls. Here on the couple of times I went it was a choice of over 10 girls. The mini-hotel was golden lotus. I'm afarid I can't remember the address but it was near Chkalovskaya metro on Chkalovsky street. Walk up Chkalovsky street at the end near the canal opposite the school the is an arch on the left go through that there are two shops. One in front of you and one to the right. The one in front is a camera shop there is a passage go through that and walk up to the big metal door in front of you that is golden dolls. It does not look like a hotel on the outside. Again I think it was 2000 roubles for an hour with a girl. I chose a tall black haired student. Who said that she had only been working a couple of months and needed the money to pay for her university education. Again she was very good looking I would say a 9. Also we were able to have a nice conversation afterwards.
5. The other area (as is mentioned frequently on here) is non-working girls. As an english speaker the girls will come and talk to you in bars and clubs to practice their English, this puts you in a good position. After a couple of weeks I was dating a 4 girls (including a French girl who had been in Pieter for a long time and said she didn't fancy the Russian guys). One girl gave me her number while she was cutting my hair. That has never happened to me in Europe.
6. If you do go enjoy!
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My Experience, My tour: Moscu, St. Petersburgo and Frankfurt
(First read my tour since Moscow Thread)
Post around #4308.
April 20. Wednesday. MOSCOW / ST. PETERSBURG.
Overnight at hotel "Pribaltiyskaya". Accommodation. Free time at night for personal activities.
On this day I decided to go to Metro Club [url]http://www.metroclub.ru/[/url] Because was Wednesday of Students, so I went to check on him, because friends had recommended me this club.
I told to my friends that had to wear appropriate clothing, my friends of 36 and 38 years old they decided to stay in a nearby bar of hotel with no luck.
I'm 28 years old and I arrived at the Metro Club, outside the thing looks very calm, in fact I thought it would be the only one who would enter, the entrance is on the back of the club, only in winter season opens the one in front, entering a crowded was very youngers, I felt a little old, very difficult to communicate with people, very few spoke English and a I feel a bit shy.
Had sharks very youngs (18 years) I invite her some drinks because I thought I was going to invite to conquer drinks, finally I could only touch a bit and kiss and she go out.
I left the club as at 3:00 am for go to Magrib but the taxi driver told me it was closed since 2 years ago! And he lead me to the XXXX Club nearby, had girls dancing with a grade of 6 and 7, I sat a while to see how was the situation really I was disappointed and the time ran to me.
I left the club not recommend it and I told the taxi driver to take me with a pro, he knew what he wanted and took me to a department where there had good girls the most beautiful women "apparently". He led me to a place lonely, I thought I was kidnapping, stopped the car, got out and tells me, get off, rang the bell and nobody came, it was about 4:30 am, I said him that take me to my hotel and left. 700 roubles for the twice travels.
I got to the hotel very hot and I decided to try with a pro in my Prybaltyskaya hotel, I went to the bar and had 2 beautiful girls with rating of 9 and 10! They was with her manager girl, I was very surprised and excited. 7000 rubles for one girl around 1 hour.
But I told them that in my room was my sister, The manager girl said me there was no problem, had a discount and charged me 5000 rubles on the top floor of my hotel, in the bathroom, I accepted the offer.
I went with the pro and manager girl to the top floor, at that time only brought dollars and told me to accept only rubles, so we went down again to the lobby for change in the change slot machines, then we go up again and I paid her manager girl.
Going to start now if the action just hugged her and took some photos when she speaks with her manager to tell her to come down because there were problems with hotel security! I couldn't believe it! Was in my underwear! I quickly dressed and we went down, the manager girl told me that she was sorry and gave me my 5000 rubles!
It was the worse day of my life.
April 21. Thursday. ST. PETERSBURG.
This time I went to Marstall with my friends, because in this forum recommended it a lot.
In any club where I had went. Never made me a discount for being a foreigner, everything is a farce in the advertising of these clubs!
When we arrived Masrtall at 12:00 am the place was very calm, there were only three fat girls dancing rating of 4 and 5, as the night wore on reaching more women with scores of 6 and 7, not surprisingly, were just dancing without a partner, really did not know why they were dancing alone, we really felt like we were the only ones in the bar and all those inside were part of the staff.
Only met a drunken teen girl came and sat next to us, she kissed me and I danced with her a little until 5 am that closed the club because the bridge had been opened and we could not go to our hotel.
Day lost for me.
April 22. Friday. ST. PETERSBURG.
Still I didn't get something, my friends mocked me for not pick up a girl in the 911 Aurora Club of Moscow, so that they led me to spa massage [url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/[/url] Orchid Nevsky Prospekt, I went and I picked two girls that had Catalogue for 30 minutes, about 3500 rubles, I went to the room, I showered and I was waiting in my room to the two girls.
One girl was a skeletal, young but of rating 5 and the other looks like from Hungary rating of 8. I raised the idea of sex but they refused, they gave me the massage and they left.
That was my humble experience in Russia.
Very bad indeed, but I revenge in Frankfurt!
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Hi,
I plan to go to St Petersburg next week. I've heard about that site:
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/[/url]
Is it a serious one? Can I trust it? Are the girls on this site real or fakes?
Thanks for your replies!
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My first trip to Russia
Hello guys,
Many thanks to the various contributors here, it sure has become a must-read source of information for potential mongers like myself. I've been getting my hopes up, especially after looking at some of the dosug adverts, and I intent to visit Russia (either Moscow or SPB) this month.
However, I'm a bit wary of going there alone since my knowledge of the Russian language is pretty much limited to the words 'njet' and 'glasnost'. Therefore I would like to ask if there are any members who live in those cities and want to meet up with a young Dutchman like me. If you help me find what I want, I'll promise to treat you to an hour with a girl of your choosing. Shared fun is double the fun and all that. Let me know if you are interested either here or through a private message.
Greetings,
Mattias
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Info on Saitn Petersburg for first time traveler
Greetings,
I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg. If anyone is feeling generous I would appreciate a recommendation for a cheap hotel or apartment.
Also if someone can recommend a good brothel or agency, that would be helpful as well.
What range should I expect to pay for 30 minutes with a young and thin Russian babe?
I am looking for an uncovered blow job.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyY; 1153650]Greetings,
I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg. If anyone is feeling generous I would appreciate a recommendation for a cheap hotel or apartment.
Also if someone can recommend a good brothel or agency, that would be helpful as well.
What range should I expect to pay for 30 minutes with a young and thin Russian babe?
I am looking for an uncovered blow job. [/QUOTE]There is no such thing as a cheap hotel or apartment in SPB, especially at this time of year when the tourist season is getting underway, so budget $100 / night at the very least.
For action, check out these sites, will give you idea of the rates as well.
[url]http://www.mumu-spb.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/?SiteCitySelector=2&SiteCitySelected=Y[/url]
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Rospros
Have anyone tried out this site for girls in St. Pete?
[url]www.rusprostitute.com[/url]
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[QUOTE=Snoop777; 1150758] (First read my tour since Moscow Thread)
Post around #4308.
April 20. Wednesday. MOSCOW / ST. PETERSBURG.
Overnight at hotel "Pribaltiyskaya". Accommodation. Free time at night for personal activities.
On this day I decided to go to Metro Club.
[url]http://www.metroclub.ru/[/url]
Because was Wednesday of Students, so I went to check on him, because friends had recommended me this club.
I told to my friends that had to wear appropriate clothing, my friends of 36 and 38 years old they decided to stay in a nearby bar of hotel with no luck.
I'm 28 years old and I arrived at the Metro Club, outside the thing looks very calm, in fact I thought it would be the only one who would enter, the entrance is on the back of the club, only in winter season opens the one in front, entering a crowded was very youngers, I felt a little old, very difficult to communicate with people, very few spoke English and a I feel a bit shy.
Had sharks very youngs (18 years) I invite her some drinks because I thought I was going to invite to conquer drinks, finally I could only touch a bit and kiss and she go out.
I left the club as at 3:00 am for go to Magrib but the taxi driver told me it was closed since 2 years ago! And he lead me to the XXXX Club nearby, had girls dancing with a grade of 6 and 7, I sat a while to see how was the situation really I was disappointed and the time ran to me.
I left the club not recommend it and I told the taxi driver to take me with a pro, he knew what he wanted and took me to a department where there had good girls the most beautiful women "apparently". He led me to a place lonely, I thought I was kidnapping, stopped the car, got out and tells me, get off, rang the bell and nobody came, it was about 4:30 am, I said him that take me to my hotel and left. 700 roubles for the twice travels.
I got to the hotel very hot and I decided to try with a pro in my Prybaltyskaya hotel, I went to the bar and had 2 beautiful girls with rating of 9 and 10! They was with her manager girl, I was very surprised and excited. 7000 rubles for one girl around 1 hour.
But I told them that in my room was my sister, The manager girl said me there was no problem, had a discount and charged me 5000 rubles on the top floor of my hotel, in the bathroom, I accepted the offer.
I went with the pro and manager girl to the top floor, at that time only brought dollars and told me to accept only rubles, so we went down again to the lobby for change in the change slot machines, then we go up again and I paid her manager girl.
Going to start now if the action just hugged her and took some photos when she speaks with her manager to tell her to come down because there were problems with hotel security! I couldn't believe it! Was in my underwear! I quickly dressed and we went down, the manager girl told me that she was sorry and gave me my 5000 rubles!
It was the worse day of my life.
April 21. Thursday. ST. PETERSBURG.
This time I went to Marstall with my friends, because in this forum recommended it a lot.
In any club where I had went. Never made me a discount for being a foreigner, everything is a farce in the advertising of these clubs!
When we arrived Masrtall at 12:00 am the place was very calm, there were only three fat girls dancing rating of 4 and 5, as the night wore on reaching more women with scores of 6 and 7, not surprisingly, were just dancing without a partner, really did not know why they were dancing alone, we really felt like we were the only ones in the bar and all those inside were part of the staff.
Only met a drunken teen girl came and sat next to us, she kissed me and I danced with her a little until 5 am that closed the club because the bridge had been opened and we could not go to our hotel.
Day lost for me.
April 22. Friday. ST. PETERSBURG.
Still I didn't get something, my friends mocked me for not pick up a girl in the 911 Aurora Club of Moscow, so that they led me to spa massage.
[url]http://www.orchid-spa.ru/[/url]
Orchid Nevsky Prospekt, I went and I picked two girls that had Catalogue for 30 minutes, about 3500 rubles, I went to the room, I showered and I was waiting in my room to the two girls.
One girl was a skeletal, young but of rating 5 and the other looks like from Hungary rating of 8. I raised the idea of sex but they refused, they gave me the massage and they left.
That was my humble experience in Russia.
Very bad indeed, but I revenge in Frankfurt! [/QUOTE]Oh I forgot it.
This is Marstall today.
Take a look at this pic:
P. The. You comment my posts! What do you think?
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[QUOTE=Snoop777; 1157294]P. The. You comment my posts! What do you think?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]151332[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Snoop,
What can one say? You spent three days in Russia and didn't get laid?
You seem to have alot of bad luck there. Possibly you may not have been decisive enough as to what you wanted. To try four places in one night and still not get anywhere there's something wrong there.
One of the main things I picked up from the post is the comment about being shy. You have to show confidence. Not arrogance. Even a P4P provider will pick up on it, and the younger Russian girls will expect an older man to have confidence. They are not adverse to an older man but apart from providing the three basic C's (car, cellphone and cash) the older man should have one C above all else. Confidence.
Maybe better luck next time.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Dogger862; 1157390]Snoop,
What can one say? You spent three days in Russia and didn't get laid?
You seem to have alot of bad luck there. Possibly you may not have been decisive enough as to what you wanted. To try four places in one night and still not get anywhere there's something wrong there.
One of the main things I picked up from the post is the comment about being shy. You have to show confidence. Not arrogance. Even a P4P provider will pick up on it, and the younger Russian girls will expect an older man to have confidence. They are not adverse to an older man but apart from providing the three basic C's (car, cellphone and cash) the older man should have one C above all else. Confidence.
Maybe better luck next time.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Was only a bit, but in really was bad luck I think. Because I meet young girls but only kiss in mouth not sex.
But read my post in Frankfurt, it was really very good experience.
Thanks for your comments!
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Three beautiful days in SPB.
Hi there, sorry for my poor english first.
I spent 3 nights in SPB last week for business. I stay in Kempinski moika 22 near hermitage and near nevsky prospekt. I really wanted to meet some slavian girl, and I manage.
I see many websites and send many SMS: Inna and Vera, call me back and a friend of mine receive Inna (a friend of her I think.) at the hotel after a coffee at hotel's bar. The girl was very smart class and sexy (8or9 ithink) , no problem for hotel security.
About me, I was not confident about those sites in fact, and on Friday evening at 23h (11PM) I manage to be alone at hotel lobby. There was other customers, and OLGA, a girl taking a tea looking at me and smiling sexiest way. Never think she was working. Very sexy, not very tall but perfect body nice breast and nice butt in a jean.
I finish my drink and sit next to her; her english was fine enough to understand what she wants. I was like in love. Charming girl. But she ask 500€! No way! And we go for half; I give her room number and she was in 10 minutes after, without any problem. 2hours of pleasure very tender and soft, and sex too!
She tell me she don't do escorting all year, but for travelling around world, and for her daughter. Really nice meet. She also tell me she knows France and place where I live.
Do you think I can find her or her mail adress now, from france? It was more than pay sex I think, or maybe I dream. Can I ask hotel reception? Or leave it.
Thanks for help, I miss her
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3 beautiful days in SPb
Hi boys,
First sorry for my poor english, I m french businessman who travelled SPb from 19 to 22 may 2011.
I stay in Kempinski Moika near hermitage and Nevsky Prospekt. Wonderfull place.
I go SPb for work but expecting to meet a slavian girl, and I found one!
I saw several websites like : [url]http://www.cityoflove.com/en/russia/St.-Petersburg/default.aspx[/url]
And send SMS to Inna and Vera. Both of them send me response.
A friend of mine have met Inna, at least a friend of her, at hotel's bar. The girl was very nice, tall, sexy and class (8 ). He told me she was very hot too; hotel security didn't ask anything for him.
I didn't like web meeting so, I stay a night at hotel's bar. Many girls working there. But one different, Olga, I couldn't say if she was hotel client or escort. She was looking at me smiling, very classy, very pretty, not the typical tall bombshell but a beautiful face and body, small breast and ass. Very exciting for me, pretty in love! I ask her if she wait someone drinking her tea but she told me, she was waiting for me! Good english, perfect manners. LOVE! She ask me if she can do something for me and ask for 500€! After some discuss, we go for half. I let my room number and 10 minutes later she was in. No problem with security hotel.
A short shower, and then 2 h of pleasure not rough sex but kisses and touchs, BJ with condom, and straight sex. Good talking, she told me she "works" to travel and she might come in france. Very sexy girl attractive and heartcatcher. She was 30yo like me. Curly brunette, small sized but perfect body (8 or 9, nearly perfect. Am I in love?) After many many french kisses (of course) she told me she have to go.
Now, I wonder how I can contact her or give her my mail. I miss her. Too romantic maybe. Can I ask the hotel reception? (girlfriendly hotel apparently.) I don't know how to give her my email if she comes to France. If anyone go there and have a drink at Moika's maybe you will see Olga (or Olya maybe) , tell her about "Sébastien, the frenchy".
For the moment, I planned another trip there, same hotel.
Thanks for help, if you can.
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Hello.
You sent a sms to Anna and Inna, but you didn't meet them. BUT a friend of you met a FRIEND of one of them in the bar. OMG. And you are in love with another girl. Wich you met.)
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[QUOTE=Jan Olsen;1160267]You sent a sms to Anna and Inna, but you didn't meet them. BUT a friend of you met a FRIEND of one of them in the bar. OMG. And you are in love with another girl. Wich you met.)[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I don't understand. Vera was too expensive to come and Inna wasn t free on Friday evening, my friend met her on Saturday.
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Hello everyone.
I am Asian working in SPB. Now staying near Metro Chernyshevkaya.
Any recommendation for me to have some nice "meal"?
I can't speak Russian.
Please help.
I tried Rusprostitute website 2 times. The girl they bring ALWAYs different from the one I called.
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[QUOTE=Kempisboy;1160473]Sorry, but I don't understand. Vera was too expensive to come and Inna wasn t free on Friday evening, my friend met her on Saturday.[/QUOTE]Hello everyone.
I am Asian working in SPB. Now staying near Metro Chernyshevkaya.
Any recommendation for me to have some nice "meal"?
I can't speak Russian.
Please help.
I tried Rusprostitute website 2 times. The girl they bring ALWAYs different from the one I called.
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[QUOTE=FiveShot; 1160764]Hello, everyone.
I am Asian working in SPB. Now staying near Metro Chernyshevkaya.
Any recommendation for me to have some nice "meal"?
I can't speak Russian.
Please help.
I tried Rusprostitute website 2 times. The girl they bring ALWAYs different from the one I called.[/QUOTE]That is what I try to say: the girl you call or SMS is not the one who come to you. Sometimes, doesn't matter they are fine too, but not the one you choose. That s why I prefered mmeting at hotel's bar.
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WAY too much money
[QUOTE=Kempisboy; 1159470]Hi boys,
First sorry for my poor english, I m french businessman who travelled SPb from 19 to 22 may 2011.
I stay in Kempinski Moika near hermitage and Nevsky Prospekt. Wonderfull place.
I go SPb for work but expecting to meet a slavian girl, and I found one!
I saw several websites like :
[url]http://www.cityoflove.com/en/russia/St.-Petersburg/default.aspx[/url]
And send SMS to Inna and Vera. Both of them send me response.
A friend of mine have met Inna, at least a friend of her, at hotel's bar. The girl was very nice, tall, sexy and class (8 ). He told me she was very hot too; hotel security didn't ask anything for him.
I didn't like web meeting so, I stay a night at hotel's bar. Many girls working there. But one different, Olga, I couldn't say if she was hotel client or escort. She was looking at me smiling, very classy, very pretty, not the typical tall bombshell but a beautiful face and body, small breast and ass. Very exciting for me, pretty in love! I ask her if she wait someone drinking her tea but she told me, she was waiting for me! Good english, perfect manners. LOVE! She ask me if she can do something for me and ask for 500€! After some discuss, we go for half. I let my room number and 10 minutes later she was in. No problem with security hotel.
A short shower, and then 2 h of pleasure not rough sex but kisses and touchs, BJ with condom, and straight sex. Good talking, she told me she "works" to travel and she might come in france. Very sexy girl attractive and heartcatcher. She was 30yo like me. Curly brunette, small sized but perfect body (8 or 9, nearly perfect. Am I in love?) After many many french kisses (of course) she told me she have to go.
Now, I wonder how I can contact her or give her my mail. I miss her. Too romantic maybe. Can I ask the hotel reception? (girlfriendly hotel apparently.) I don't know how to give her my email if she comes to France. If anyone go there and have a drink at Moika's maybe you will see Olga (or Olya maybe) , tell her about "Sébastien, the frenchy".
For the moment, I planned another trip there, same hotel.
Thanks for help, if you can. [/QUOTE]This site is way too expensive. Do more research
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Three days in SPB. Salon CACA
Hello, all,
I am in St Pete this week for 3 days with the objective of having some fun. Since this is the first time that I am staying in town, I have zero knowledge about local habits and I could not find in this thread any information that suits me.
I then sarted to search on RusDosug what I could have arround my hotel and after several attemps I selected a salon near Tehnologichesjiy Institute metro station;"Salon CACA", Serpuhovskaya1. I called them at noon. Good contact on the phone; the girl speaks good english and she helped me a lot to find my way. Here are the indications to reach the place: This is really at a stone throw from the metro station. In front of the building there is a yellow sign with "&1057; &1072; &1083; &1086; &1085;" written on it (this simply means salon). Take the path to go to the yard, turn on the right just after the path, second door (brown) , type 54B on the digicode and they will open the door. The appartment (and°54) is at the third floor in front of the stairs.
Marina opened the door. She asked me to take off my shoes and use slippers (typical Russian!) and then offered me a coffee or e tea. Then she explained the rules of the game. The salon has 2 appartments of two rooms each. So there is one or two girls in each appartment depending on the time. In total six girls work in the salon. Opening time: 11 am. 11 pm. As I came early in the day, only Marina was working. She is 30, exactly like on the picture on RusDosug; Tall, slim small. 2B boobs) Her face is not great (buried on the site) but she commpensate by her smile and her kindness. Prices: 2000 RUB for one hour and 4000 RUB for two hours. Non covered BJ: +500 RUB, Anal: +1000 RUB. After a quick shower, I decided to go to the basic menu as this was my first time there. I had very good time with Marina and she really worth the money (I really enjoyed a lot when she put her dildo in her ass!). As I was about to leave the salon, her mate arrived and Marina introduced me to her. Name: Valeria, late 20s, nice smile, shorter than Marina, nice boods and great body. Marina suggested to go with Valeria next time, or to take both of them for 4000 RUB. She promissed be a nice lesbian party. Interesting.
I was no pleased that I returned in the evening at 8pm. I called and then I had the mamasan on the phone. Very friendly person. She told me that Valeria finished her shift (too bad) but Marina Alina and Anya where availble. I wanted to change so Marina was not an option. I could see picts of Alina on the site. Fantastic figure but too young (19y). I usually prefer older partners. I told the lady that I would make my choice on site. When I arrived, Marina opend the door with he big smile (Hi again!) Unfortunately Anya was busy so finally I opted for Alina. Alina is exactly like ton the pictures on the site and her face is very nice and sweet. She study architecture but unfortunately her english is almost zero.
Quick shower and action started: fantastic! Alina was really eager to please. I was doing so well that I asked for the anal option but unfortunately, this was not on Alina menu. Anyway, this was again a very nice experience and I think I will go again to salon CACA this afternoon before going to the airport.
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[QUOTE=Sam Suffit;1161688] Take the path to go to the yard, turn on the right just after the path, second door (brown) , type 54B on the digicode and they will open the door. The appartment (and°54) is at the third floor in front of the stairs.[/QUOTE]Sam,
Thanks for the report on Salon Ца-Ца.
Just a few words of advice. I know you're just trying to be thorough, but it's never a good idea to post specific information about how to find salons, particularly access codes to the podyezd. As you know from your experience, these places are very small and typically in private buildings, so they need to be able to control the movement of customers in and out.
Now that you have announced to the entire mongering world their exact location and access code, they will probably be gone in 6 months.
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Photomodeli
Perhaps I am way behind times, but what ever happened with all the Photomodeli Salons? In past trip I used to frequent many of these salons and had great fun. I made search on the forum but nothing recent came up.
Does anyone know?
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Need kind help.
Hello Everyone,
I'm asian businessman
I'll stay in SPB from 16th June for three months.
Please recommend safe sensual massage palour with service and price information.
Thanks for your help.
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[QUOTE=Dotplus;1163218]Please recommend safe sensual massage palour with service and price information.[/QUOTE]If you can manage to scroll down 3 posts, you will find what you are looking for.
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Thanks for reply
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1163630]If you can manage to scroll down 3 posts, you will find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]You mean "salon caca"?
Is that place really safe from police and skin head?
Anyway, thanks for the kind reply.
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[QUOTE=Dotplus; 1164378]You mean "salon caca"?
Is that place really safe from police and skin head?
Anyway, thanks for the kind reply. [/QUOTE]I didn't find the place unsafe Dotplus. The salon is located in the city centre, in a nice avenue. No issue.
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Web Sites!
Hi Everyone! I'll be going to Piters on 29th of June. This will be my first time there. I am planing to rely on the ladies from [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/[/url] [url]www.spbgirls.ru[/url] And [url]http://www.mumu-spb.ru.[/url] Does anyone has info about the relaibility of these sites. I wonder if the photos are original or not?
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[url]www.Rusdosug.com[/url]
Is ok. The pictures not always belong to real girls, but many do, it just depends on providers since anyone can post their profiles there. There are also short reports below some girls' profiles if mongers post anything about particular girl.
[url]www.Mumu-spb.ru[/url]
Just belongs to one of the "salons" (salon is usually an apartment where several girls work at a time under the supervision of an administrator). You can find many of salons here:
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salons.php?SiteCitySelector=2&SiteCitySelected=Y[/url]
[QUOTE=Kankkunen; 1168326]Hi Everyone! I'll be going to Piters on 29th of June. This will be my first time there. I am planing to rely on the ladies from.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/[/url]
[url]www.spbgirls.ru[/url]
And.
[url]http://www.mumu-spb.ru.[/url]
Does anyone has info about the relaibility of these sites. I wonder if the photos are original or not? [/QUOTE]
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Rusfei
Have found this website, [url]www.rusfei.com[/url], devoted for working girls in St. Petersburg but the pictures and the prices are too good to be true. Anybody tasted a girl from this web site before? Some ads with 1200 ruble / hour whispers to my ears that could be a complete crap.
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Summer 2011 in Stpet
I want to tell about my experience this summer.
Its easy to find girls at mamba. Ru if you make a profile there. And I stayed at Holiday Inn hotel, Moskovskie Vorota. Its a bar called XXXX-bar there. I contacted girls from momba. Ru, met them in night at that bar, and its no security from bar til my room. Bar is open for everyone, and its full of peiople there. Its in 3 floor too, so you don't have to explain for security in reception. For me it was a good choice.
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[QUOTE=Jan Olsen; 1183530]I want to tell about my experience this summer.
Its easy to find girls at mamba. Ru if you make a profile there. And I stayed at Holiday Inn hotel, Moskovskie Vorota. Its a bar called XXXX-bar there. I contacted girls from mamba. Ru, met them in night at that bar, and its no security from bar til my room. Bar is open for everyone, and its full of peiople there. Its in 3 floor too, so you don't have to explain for security in reception. For me it was a good choice.[/QUOTE]Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Right webadress is mamba. Ru.
Sorry
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Trip
St. Petersburg, formerly Leningrad, is a.
Very beautiful city, especially in summer and.
Winter. I'm not so familiar in clubs, but.
My favorite place for great (cheap)"things" can be found at the underground station.
Ploschad-Vostanija (square of the resurrection).
Just go outside and keeps the whole thing.
An eye. Have some patience. Chances are you there then addressed with the question of what you want to relax. This works especially at night, but.
Daytime it. One problem is that perhaps that.
Russsich it happens, but a man prepared.
Know there is a twist to it.
Winter (January) , I intend to have.
To go back. I like to meet there.
A fellow hiker to have a hot threesome.
Organizing (I. E. Sandwich, etc.) and reactions.
Suggestions welcome.
Yson
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Tips!
Tips.
Metro 10 are or 12 bands to any destination.
You can also keep a car and not a taxi, much cheaper.
Single strip tents, but expensive.
Try Nevski Prospect No. 98. Very good for approx 90 euros.
Moscow street or No. 179. Ditto.
Beware of Moscow Metro, it is full of unsavory types and drunk people.
Astoria hotel is five star and the girls are obviously some price accordingly.
Success.
Yson
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Is it a saloon not mentioned here?
I've found a saloon in a Russian forum [url]http://forum.amurworld.com[/url]. There're good reviews there about the saloon chain [url]http://www.intimspb.ru/[/url]. Has anyone mentioned it here before? I haven't found a report. Is there anyone who tried it? What do you think about this saloon? I think I can try it and send a report but Russian will be a problem about communication it seems. If I can communicate with tthem successfully I'll try it.
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New report for Saint Petersburg from August 8-10
I came Petersburg from Moscow where I couldn't monger for reasonable girls with reasonable prices. I found what I was looking for in Petersburg. I didn't have enough time to search in sites like mamba so massage saloons seemed me the best way to monger so I tried to go a a massage saloon.
At first, I did some research on this forum and also on other Russian forum sites with using translation programs. I found the girl I wanted, slim, young and pretty looking in the mercedes saloon so I called them. The girl I was talking on the phone told me that Sonja (the girl I've found- you can find her on saint petersburg rusdosug site) was off for the day and will come tomorrow. She told me that I will have four choices if I come on this day. I said ok and good bye. I was little bit surprised that she was speaking english not so bad despite of her Russian pronunciation. And the second surprise was that she didn't lie me saying she was there which I've heard some cases alike (to make you go there and force you to pick other girls). Then, I tried to go to Nevsky 92 but couldn't find it though there is a really good adress explanation here. It was true and found the baraka tattoo but the problem was I had forgetten to note the telephone number and it was getting late and I don't have the chance for the internet. I walked little bit there but it looked so complicated that I decided not to go there because of also anknowdlage about the girls available. This was my first day.
Second day on the afternoon I called salon mercedes which I had called yesterday. They told me that sonja was there and will be available. I wanted the exact adress although they had some worries about not to tell me the exact adress. Just told me it's written on internet. Yes, it was written and I had noted it (and the number luckily.) You quit the metro sportivnaya. You will be on a street called prospect dobrolyubuva. You go straight ahead on this street passing the cathedral (will be on the left) and its number is 19. You have to press some numbers to enter which I forgot and it's on the top floor.
Finally I was face to face with Sonja. She was really slim and %100 match with the picture. She took me to the shower and after we had sex and a conversation in which she told me she was 29! So don't lie on the ages on internet I understood. Kissing her body is authorized although no french kiss and no uncovered blow job. She was kind and good at sex however I got some worries on my mind after hearing that she was 29 (look like 18) and if she was ill. The room and the flat was ok and they were really careful about privacy. Cost for one hour was 2500 R. Which I think is not so bad damage.
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[QUOTE=Alta Reclan; 1185109]I've found a saloon in a Russian forum.
[url]http://forum.amurworld.com[/url]
There're good reviews there about the saloon chain.
[url]http://www.intimspb.ru/[/url]
Has anyone mentioned it here before? I haven't found a report. Is there anyone who tried it? What do you think about this saloon? I think I can try it and send a report but Russian will be a problem about communication it seems. If I can communicate with tthem successfully I'll try it.[/QUOTE]My first trip Stp and I decided to take one for the team. I called them at their Premium location and 2nd time managed to speak to someone with half decent English. It's based on Stremyannaya (just behind Nevskiy Prospekt). As this is very close to my hotel, I just paid a visit and it was easy to find. The apartment was nicely decorated with a large reception room and decent shower facilities (fresh towel was removed from packet in front of me which was a good sign). I was given the choice of 3 ladies and the price was 2500R. No options for extras and everything was covered but a good service and I would recommend it. I saw more ladies when I left so I think they have a reasonable selection (I arrived at 5pm).
I may well try one of their "Delux" locations later depending how I feel (and if Mumu ever bother to turn their phone on).
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Royal Deluxe
Having tried the Premium salon earlier in the day, I just returned from the Royal Deluxe. Located on Ulitasa Marata, its around a 10 minute walk from Nevskiy. They were able to field a reasonable English speaker on the phone which is why I went there rather than the Grand Deluxe (the maid there hung up on me twice when I tried to speak English) , though I now know that the Grand is on the same street, but much closer to Nevskiy. The whole setup was very similar to my earlier trip to Premium, again with 3 girls but this time the cost was 3000 (apparently due to the nicer decor). Whilst the inside was very nice (not that it really matters as long as they meet the minimum standard) , the stairs leading up to it left a lot to be desired.
I did have a very nice time with Elena who I can recommend but generally speaking, due to the distance from Nevskiy (where I am staying) , the unpleasant walk up to the 6th floor and the extra 500, I would suggest either the Premium or possibly the Grand (assuming you speak Russian).
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Advices re. Threesome in SPet
Hello,
I would be very grateful if anyone could give me info or tips about some good girls to call for a 3some FFM.
Thursday 25 I will vist SPet for 3 nights with my Russian girlfriend (she is from moscow) and she asked me to try our first threesome, and it must be with another girl.
We tried to call many girls (rusdosug, prostitutkipitera, rusfei) but I have some doubts regarding reality of pics and quality of service.
My GF tried to call herself several girls but mostly of times they were scared to talk to a lady on a Russian number.
So I did some trials from Italy and found few gals ready to speak to me in bad english and with some doubts about pleasing a woman even if their pages reported clearly "married couple service".
I am on ok 35 yo italian guy, while my girlfriend is very sexy 29yo girl. Does anyone know any girls who can please us and does not cost a fortune for 1 or 2 hours?
Hotel incall should be a must.
Better to insist in calling these bad organized web agencies or there are clubs / places where we have resonable chances to pickup the girl we like?
Being our first experience ever, we would maybe prefer a Pro that can lead us a bit.
Thanks to anyone who can share his previous experience with us.
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Salons?
For some time now I have been searching for an alternative to a german fkk club trip, having already done that 7 times. Having read in depth the moscow and st petersburg sites I have come to the conclusion that the salon scene in st petersburg offers great value for
Money, with what seem to be very attractive Russian girls. I have a couple of points I would greatly appreciate some help with. Firstly is a site such as rusdoug with its listing of salons ok to be generally trusted and the actual salon websites for the accuracy of the girl.
Pictures? Secondly and most importantly for me as a non Russian speaker with the telephone numbers that are advertised what percentage of salon operators will be ok with english language? And as a first time visitor to russia would it be easy enough and practical.
Using taxis to actually locate and find these salons that are dotted around the city? Thanks for all help.
Mohab
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Porn girls doing escort
Hi. With so many hot girls coming out of Saint Pete doing porn, does anyone know if any of them Escort too?
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Hi
Can we rely on
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/[/url]
I will make my first trip to st pet, and it looks like the scene here is much more cheaper than moscow. Interesting. Any advice on the strip club scene too?
Thanks
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No, you can't
[QUOTE=Passepartout; 1198692]Hi
Can we rely on.
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/[/url]
I will make my first trip to st pet, and it looks like the scene here is much more cheaper than moscow. Interesting. Any advice on the strip club scene too?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I have used this service. No match at all.
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Ok thanks. Too good to be true.)
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[QUOTE=Passepartout;1199638]Ok thanks. Too good to be true.)[/QUOTE]Passepartout.
I would hesitate to take advice from a 1 post member.
Quality and price in Piter can both be good. May take visiting the Salons or calling for delivery and sending any wrong ones back which you are free to do. Ask the Salon to send over 3-4 girls so you can choose.
Personally I plan to use this site.
[url]http://www.spbgirls.ru/[/url]
And others for an upcoming trip in Feb.
Piter has quite a bit to offer. Check it out for yourself.
Guido88
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Yes you are right, I should be more prudent with the advice given by the 1 message "member".
I will go in 3 weeks to st pet and will report here my experiences.
Thanks anyway for the advice.
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Apt rental?
Anyone have any experience with the Apartment rental service?
[url]http://arendaservice.com[/url]
I normally use Oksana however her pricing is a little high for off season plus her other services are much higher.
Tia.
Guido88
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Hi.
In my experience spbgirls are mostly fake pictures but there are pussy available. I would use.
[url]http://www.karamelki.org/[/url]
[url]http://www.mumu-spb.ru/[/url]
Or.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.dosug.cz/servlet/en/search[/url]
They have better ratio of real pictures. Also.
[url]http://www.ston.ru/index.php?city=[/url]
Have some intresting girls. In a rusdosug pages there have now been about 1 year, some girls that are asking 10000r / hour or even more.
About apartment, I have used.
[url]http://www.cityrealtyrussia.com/[/url]
And it have been working well. Some small hotels that I have also been.
[url]http://www.amadeo-hotel.ru/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.vladhotel.ru/en/prices.htm[/url]
[url]http://akvarelihotel.ru/[/url]
[url]http://www.anabelhotel.com/message.php?mes=254[/url]
I have not taken girls to these small hotels so I do not know how it will work, but in russia money can solve these kind of small issues.
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[QUOTE=Chill Bill;1198294]Hi. With so many hot girls coming out of Saint Pete doing porn, does anyone know if any of them Escort too?[/QUOTE]I would also like some info about this.
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Yes to chill bill and themethod
This girl was working in Mumu (name Polina?) and I have done her, service was ok. She was so skinny that I would say, there is my limit.
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/624119/russian_skinny_blonde_teen_anal_fucking_jj.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Eas69; 1203735]This girl was working in Mumu (name Polina?) and I have done her, service was ok. She was so skinny that I would say, there is my limit.
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/624119/russian_skinny_blonde_teen_anal_fucking_jj.html[/url][/QUOTE]Eas69.
You have to love the way the RU men train their women.
Looks like Polina performs perfectly with anal then a nice facial. How was her attitude?
I appreciate your reports in this forum which has little recent activity.
Looking at your links it appears you are pursuing the higher price ranges. Myself I never negotiate in dollars only rubles. Then get her mobile # and have her come over on her days off at a discount.
Do you attempt to negotiate price or pay what is asked?
Also curious where you are sourcing the girls from? The Internet, magazines like 'Rendezvous', independents, the dating sites 'erotic sections or even girls in clubs who are obviously available.
With the USA and Europe both doing poorly economically those poor girls must be in need of customers. The apartment services I speak with say there is a strong drop in bookings.
Appears to be plenty of pussy in the 4, 000 ruble for two hours range.
Keep up the good work.
Guido88
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Polinas additude and service was good, but not exellent.
Yes I have run some mamasan that are trying to overprice the poor turist, and in these cases I have negotiate right price or left.
Yes I have a couple of direct phone numbers for the girls that I call directly, without salon involvement, price it little cheaper and service is always exellent. But I'm doing this to get variation on my sex life so, I do not go with same girl more then 3-6 times. I'm getting my girls in the mid price section 2000-5000r / hour, I would not pay 10000r / hour or it must be something really special.
Not all the girls are willing to give their numbers, reason might be, that they don't like me, or they are afraid what will happend if the mamasan know about that, or they want keep their private life separate from work.
I'm only using rubles. I have also scored some free pussy, but it will always take more time and effort.
Nowadays I will mainly get information from internet, the range of magazines have gone down resently. I can also see that economics are going down in all over world, so I hope that prices of pussy and accomodation in St Peter will go down too, ruble has already go down 10% for € comparison.
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[QUOTE=Eas69; 1205565]Polinas additude and service was good, but not exellent.
Yes I have run some mamasan that are trying to overprice the poor turist, and in these cases I have negotiate right price or left.
Yes I have a couple of direct phone numbers for the girls that I call directly, without salon involvement, price it little cheaper and service is always exellent. But I'm doing this to get variation on my sex life so, I do not go with same girl more then 3-6 times. I'm getting my girls in the mid price section 2000-5000r / hour, I would not pay 10000r / hour or it must be something really special.
Not all the girls are willing to give their numbers, reason might be, that they don't like me, or they are afraid what will happend if the mamasan know about that, or they want keep their private life separate from work.
I'm only using rubles. I have also scored some free pussy, but it will always take more time and effort.
Nowadays I will mainly get information from internet, the range of magazines have gone down resently. I can also see that economics are going down in all over world, so I hope that prices of pussy and accomodation in St Peter will go down too, ruble has already go down 10% for € comparison.[/QUOTE]Eas69.
My guess is the girls are more afraid of getting caught by mamsan giving out their mobile.
Doubt its disliking you. Compared to the RU men a Western man is a dream plus the RU girls do 'LOVE' to make money. 3-4 times with a Dev I tend to get bored with them as well.
Good call in negotiating price or saying no and leaving.
IMHO with the state of the world economy pricing will only get better in the coming months. With both the Americans and Europeans having economic problems there are not a whole lot of tourists in Piter compared to a few years ago.
Thanks for the input. If you are around in Feb 1st beer is on me.
Guido88
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Questions?
I am going for the first time to St Petersburg next month and I am looking for some advices and answers to some questions.
- Where do I find the best / nicest disco / club to find regular girls or semi-pros? I am 35 and goodlooking.
- Pornstars? Where can I find them? Website? Club" Stripclub?
- Which is the best stripclub? Securerly and priceworthy?
- Is it secure to "mongering" alone in St Pete? Advices?
- Escort? Which is the best site / photo-true site? Somewhere I can "watch-and-pick" girls?
Thank you very much for your time.
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[QUOTE=Figge03; 1210155]I am going for the first time to St Petersburg next month and I am looking for some advices and answers to some questions.
- Where do I find the best / nicest disco / club to find regular girls or semi-pros? I am 35 and goodlooking.
- Pornstars? Where can I find them? Website? Club" Stripclub?
- Which is the best stripclub? Securerly and priceworthy?
- Is it secure to "mongering" alone in St Pete? Advices?
- Escort? Which is the best site / photo-true site? Somewhere I can "watch-and-pick" girls?
Thank you very much for your time.[/QUOTE]Figgie03.
Looking at past posts I see only your questions about Germany, Praha ect.
Might be a good idea to share your experiences with others.
Are you streetwise in new countries? 1st day out of the house?
Based on your questions I am guessing you are just starting out. Read up on other forums regarding safety in RU and other countries. We all started out as newbie's.
No one will spoon-feed you the information. You do need to read the forum!
It's on the web for research. Go forth and experience.
Looking forward to info you have to share.
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Guido88; 1211135]Figgie03.
Looking at past posts I see only your questions about Germany, Praha ect.
Might be a good idea to share your experiences with others.
Are you streetwise in new countries? 1st day out of the house?
Based on your questions I am guessing you are just starting out. Read up on other forums regarding safety in RU and other countries. We all started out as newbie's.
No one will spoon-feed you the information. You do need to read the forum!
It's on the web for research. Go forth and experience.
Looking forward to info you have to share.
Guido88[/QUOTE]Ok Guido88, I will. Just thought this site was to get answer to questions. I had before.
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Travel
I did post some questions in Moscow section about my uppcomming trip. As I write there I am going for 8 nights.
The thing is am not sure go to Moscow or Spt?
I prefer meeting escorts during day time or early evning. If I like a girl maybe even call her nxt day and book dinner date with happy ending at the hotell rom.
Yes I am GFE guy with some few other things in minde. During the night I like strip clubs, but not for fucking a striper in a dirty rom. I like to whatch have some drink with girls and some private dances.
I like nice clubs and bars. Budget for 8 night stay for drinks, food and girls will be about 3000 euro. What woud you sugest from these two citys?
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Mongering company
I am planning to visit Piter in 2-4 weeks for 2 days. I would like to get accompany with person who has experience about the scene. I look for quality rather than quantity. So if you have some knowledge, please share and even better if we get together for a beer or two and plans.
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Clubs and Spa?
I really tried to read this forum for help (sorry Guido88) but did not really found What I searched for. I am now in St P and Will be here to Sunday and ofcourse I want the best for My trip.
I live near the salon on nevsky prospekt 90, so I tried to look it up yesterday. I found the door just before the tatoo, but noone opened. Is it closed? I think it is karamelki. I try again tonight. Any other great salons near?
This night I also want to try the mongering in nightclubs. Shall I go to Rossi? Or anything better on à Wednesday? I am 35 and proper. What is the best for semi-pros?
Anyone know à good spa in St Pete? Just for relaxing, swimming and maybe solarium. It had not to be erotik.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Figge03;1217742]I live near the salon on nevsky prospekt 90, so I tried to look it up yesterday. I found the door just before the tatoo, but noone opened. Is it closed? I think it is karamelki. I try again tonight. Any other great salons near?[/QUOTE]Maybe try Chanel na Nekrasova (
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/salon/27/[/url]
) , it's not to far from the centre and I was there with a friend only yesterday afternoon so this info should be up to date. It's located at ulitsa Nekrasova # 6. The entrance is a large brown door situated between a 24-hour grocery shop and an antique shop called Russkaya Starina.
I suggest you call them half an hour earlier, and then again when you arrive, telling them you're outside. The code is 3 B, but of course don't use that until you hear them tell you it (it's pronounced 'tri. Veh'). They should then buzz you in. Go up to the second floor and the friendly mamasan will open the apartment door for you.
There were 4 girls working when we called about 3. 00 pm, which is a good for that time of day. I chose Diana, who is pictured on the site. She actually looked better in the flesh than in the pictures, (the reverse is often the case). Performance was average for a salon. My friend chose Nastya, also pictured on the site. He claimed that Nastya was the best GFE he's had in Russia (he's been 4 times). Price was 2500 for an hour.
We only visited one other place on this trip, a small collective based out in the suburbs which we found through the mamba. Ru site, (look for photos with pink outline, if the girl has 'podruga' or 'podruzhki' then it's likely a small salon). I visited several other salons during my last trip in the summer, but don't have the details to hand.
[QUOTE=Figge03;1217742]What is the best for semi-pros?[/QUOTE]Don't know which is the best club for semi-pros is, but when I've asked girls in the salons which clubs they like to go to when they're not working, the Metro Club comes up quite a lot. I've not been though.
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[QUOTE=Figge03; 1217742]I really tried to read this forum for help (sorry Guido88) but did not really found What I searched for. I am now in St P and Will be here to Sunday and ofcourse I want the best for My trip.
I live near the salon on nevsky prospekt 90, so I tried to look it up yesterday. I found the door just before the tatoo, but noone opened. Is it closed? I think it is karamelki. I try again tonight. Any other great salons near?
This night I also want to try the mongering in nightclubs. Shall I go to Rossi? Or anything better on à Wednesday? I am 35 and proper. What is the best for semi-pros?
Anyone know à good spa in St Pete? Just for relaxing, swimming and maybe solarium. It had not to be erotik.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Figge03.
Sorry for the delay I have been without the web for 1 week.
Both finding and getting into the salons can be a real pain in the ass.
Asking the street, then the number will get you close. Then you must get the correct courtyard, door code & floor.
I have asked them to meet me when I arrive in the street and escort me then 1st time to a salon. Other option is to use a real cab at an inflated price or a gypsy cab at a usual price.
There are salons all around you. Old Nevsky is loaded with them.
Any busy club should be good for freebies. Figure 50% of the women will do P4P.
Here is part of a report by Spangle who should be ok with me sharing this.
'Thanks mate'
Quote 'Thursday is still Ladies night (try the karaoke at the back if you can
Hold a song. A good ice breaker). Thursdays at Rossis clashes with a Ladies
Night at Marstall which seems to be very good for normal girls, (check out their
Webcam about midnight local time.
[url]http://www.kondvor.ru/index.php/translyatsiya-v-internet/web-cameras.html[/url]
,
Though it's not always working. When it works you get a great view of the
Exotic dancers and a feel for what nights are busiest etc.).
Besides the salons, there are dozens of working girls and semi pros on the
Mamba. Ru network, price are equivalent to the salons. I might try omen. Ru next
Time too. We called in a couple of girls and were very lucky with quality and
Attitude
Between the salons, the web, clubs, the magazines and the general horniness of the RU women it should not be a problem to get laid.
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Spangle; 1217926]Maybe try Chanel na Nekrasova (
[url]http://www.amurspb.ru/salon/27/[/url]
) , it's not to far from the centre and I was there with a friend only yesterday afternoon so this info should be up to date. It's located at ulitsa Nekrasova # 6. The entrance is a large brown door situated between a 24-hour grocery shop and an antique shop called Russkaya Starina.
I suggest you call them half an hour earlier, and then again when you arrive, telling them you're outside. The code is 3 B, but of course don't use that until you hear them tell you it (it's pronounced 'tri. Veh'). They should then buzz you in. Go up to the second floor and the friendly mamasan will open the apartment door for you.
There were 4 girls working when we called about 3. 00 pm, which is a good for that time of day. I chose Diana, who is pictured on the site. She actually looked better in the flesh than in the pictures, (the reverse is often the case). Performance was average for a salon. My friend chose Nastya, also pictured on the site. He claimed that Nastya was the best GFE he's had in Russia (he's been 4 times). Price was 2500 for an hour.
We only visited one other place on this trip, a small collective based out in the suburbs which we found through the mamba. Ru site, (look for photos with pink outline, if the girl has 'podruga' or 'podruzhki' then it's likely a small salon). I visited several other salons during my last trip in the summer, but don't have the details to hand.
Don't know which is the best club for semi-pros is, but when I've asked girls in the salons which clubs they like to go to when they're not working, the Metro Club comes up quite a lot. I've not been though.[/QUOTE]Hey Spangle.
Really good to see you back. This forum needs your knowledge and language skills.
Any chance you would consider sharing your WSA posts on this forum?
Spangles guide to. Are priceless. Between you, CT, Doc and Car, RU opened up for the rest of us.
I remember that 1st cup of coffee and the debauchery that followed. Damn I can not wait to get back.
Guido88
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St Pete salons & more
Hi all,
I'm just preparing my trip to Pete for new years parties. Most of the homework already done, but still having few open questions.
1. It seems that salons are the easiest pick regarding our hobby in SPB. Does anybody know whether the hourly prices usually include one shot or more?
2. The independents advertising in omen. Ru and rusodug. Com also look interesting to me. I know that pictures are sometimes fake, but are independents generally ok in terms of safety? Any muggings, robberies or similar scams?
3. Russian pharmacies. After reading the forum I've understood that prescriptions are not needed in Russia to get performance pills, are they? Any advice whether all pharmacies sell them in downtown and can you trust the quality?
Any answers would be appreciated, and full report is guaranteed afterwards.
Br, Jalle.
Ps. If somebody around between 29. 12-31. 12 let me know. I'm busy with other people most evenings, but daytime wingman would be nice.
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[QUOTE=Jalle; 1226238]Hi all,
I'm just preparing my trip to Pete for new years parties. Most of the homework already done, but still having few open questions.
1. It seems that salons are the easiest pick regarding our hobby in SPB. Does anybody know whether the hourly prices usually include one shot or more?
2. The independents advertising in omen. Ru and rusodug. Com also look interesting to me. I know that pictures are sometimes fake, but are independents generally ok in terms of safety? Any muggings, robberies or similar scams?
3. Russian pharmacies. After reading the forum I've understood that prescriptions are not needed in Russia to get performance pills, are they? Any advice whether all pharmacies sell them in downtown and can you trust the quality?
Any answers would be appreciated, and full report is guaranteed afterwards.
Br, Jalle.
Ps. If somebody around between 29. 12-31. 12 let me know. I'm busy with other people most evenings, but daytime wingman would be nice.[/QUOTE]Jalle.
Salons are easy in some respects. They can be very hard to find but they will deliver if you call and ask. Never have I been limited to 1 shot in either Piter or Moscow.
The cold weather when you are going combined with a good attitude will keep the girls in your warm bed long enough for extra time. The salons will clock watch, at your apt you will most likely get extra time.
Independents are luck of the draw. You may make a dozen calls or more before you find English. Right girl with pic is a maybe. Don't be afraid to send them home with taxi fare if you are not happy with appearance. Most of the young RU women are pretty damn cute.
As for crime it's possible, but nothing I would worry about. You're more apt to get robbed by the police on the street at night.
With 50% of goods on RU shelves being knockoffs it's probable that meds may not be genuine. Do what the locals do and always keep your receipts and take back any bad purchases. You can get boner drugs at any pharmacy with no script.
With your trip dates New Years may make things a little tougher.
Be persistent, some RU fox somewhere needs money.
Guido88.
PS. Do me a favor and keep the salon name, address, door code and floor number that you visit. TIA
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Staying in astoria hotel
Dear All,
I will be staying mid January in Astoria Hotel in St Petersburg. Is this hotel girl friendly? Is there any action within the hotel's bar or nearby?
Have tried to contact girls through mamba but really few speaks english or french. Anyother recommendation?
Thanks a lot in advance for your answer.
Yours faithfully
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Radisson Royal Hotel
Good evening,
Please there's anyone knows if the Radisson Royal Hotel is girl friendly?
Thank you
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Just starting my research for a May trip
I plan on reading through the entire forum eventually. If I offend anyone by asking questions that are readily available in the forum, I apologize. (I guess I need more patience in my life). Here are some basic questions:
1. Are the upscale hotels girl friendly?
2. Are the upscale hotels good places to meet girls in the bars?
3. How would the size of St. P compare to other cities? I specifically mean the town centre. If possible, please compare it to a western european city, as I have been in most medium to large cites in western europe.
4. I will be visiting for a week. I would like to hire an english speaking escort for at least a day or two to show me around the city, help me navigate the city, etc during the first part of my stay. Of course, as part of that, I want to be able to enjoy physical time with them. Is there an agency that anyone would recommend that could accomplish this at a reasonable price.
5. Does the "meet a Russian bride" concept still exist? If so, how has that changed over the past 20 years? (I am a 45 year old, single american male.)
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St Petersburg Porn movies
I am going to be in Piter in the second week of Feb shooting some porn. If you read this forum you will know that St Petersburg has a big industry and a lot of top European girls start off there. It is a lot harder to do now that mixphoto has shut down but through my contacts in the industry I am able to organise shoots. Did it once last year. Given Petersburg is shut down in feb I don't expect anyone to be there but if you are and want to shoot a scene or just meet up for a drink let me know. I also have a lot of friends there not connected to porn so we can meet up with them as well.
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St Petersburg porn movies
I will be in St Petersburg in the second week of February to shoot a porn movie. If anyone would like tomeet up for a drink or would like to shoot their own while I am there pm me. I speak middling Russian and have been to Peter last year shooting as well.
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[QUOTE=Doonan; 1238169]I plan on reading through the entire forum eventually. If I offend anyone by asking questions that are readily available in the forum, I apologize. (I guess I need more patience in my life). Here are some basic questions:
1. Are the upscale hotels girl friendly?
2. Are the upscale hotels good places to meet girls in the bars?
3. How would the size of St. P compare to other cities? I specifically mean the town centre. If possible, please compare it to a western european city, as I have been in most medium to large cites in western europe.
4. I will be visiting for a week. I would like to hire an english speaking escort for at least a day or two to show me around the city, help me navigate the city, etc during the first part of my stay. Of course, as part of that, I want to be able to enjoy physical time with them. Is there an agency that anyone would recommend that could accomplish this at a reasonable price.
5. Does the "meet a Russian bride" concept still exist? If so, how has that changed over the past 20 years? (I am a 45 year old, single american male.) [/QUOTE]Doonan,
I got some recent info as I spent few days in St. Peter three weeks ago. I'm still on travel but here are some brief answers:
1. As far as I know upscale hotels are girl friendly when you target those girls downstairs. At least in 3-4 star hotels it is possible to deal with the security when bringing girls from outside.
2. Yes and No. You'll definitely find pretty girls in many upscale hotels, but expect to pay 5-star rates. Better catch a taxi on the street and ask to find nearest salon. See rusdosug. Com to get the idea of salons.
3. St. Peter is third largest city in Europe after Moscow and London. Downtown can be explored by foot in about three days if you are fit. In my opinion it compares best to Paris: similar buildings, similar broad avenues, same size downtown, nice river embankments, stylish people, good restaurants, etc.
4. Hiring an english speaking escort shouldn't be a problem, but reasonable price can be more of a challenge. There are scams in the net, but reading the forum might give some recommedations. Just one word: never pay anything in advance.
5. You'll quickly notice Russia is not a third world country. Most of the regular girls you see in downtown wear Chanel rather than Walmart. As 45yo you definitely have your chance, but Eastern European (regular) girls tend to be quite proud. In most cases you won't get any extra points by taking them to most expensive restaurant in town. It is still easier to get laid here than in most western countries because girl-guy ratio in bars is great. Young people nowadays speak some English even though all guidebooks claim the opposite.
In conclusion, you are generally as safe as in the states. Do not walk quiet areas alone after dark. Do not carry valuables other than cash after dark. Do not excessively point out you are american. Always carry a copy of your passport (and only a copy). Last but most important: Police are not there to help you!
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Wingman for Sat Feb 4, seeking general info
I'm headed to St. Pete for a few weeks looking to do some mongering. Prefer "club" type spots where you can check the scenery, enjoy a few drinks and pick out what you like. Would be very appreciative if someone who knnows the scene would be willing to show me around on Sat night (Feb 4). Please PM me if you are interested. All your drinks are on me. Still reading through the forum for intel, but a few questions:
1) Salons sound promising, but maybe hard to locate for a newbie. Any suggestions?
2) definitely expect BBBJ. Is this the norm in StPete, or do many girls insist on CBJ?
3) Any ideas on best bet for place to "check the scenery, enjoy a few drinks and pick out what you like"?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Jonners.
I haven't used this forum that much, well actually by reading I have found answers to my questions. But I couldn't find how to write a PM to you, anyhow I am interested on your post, if possible send me a PM or something.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Jonners;1239096]I am going to be in Piter in the second week of Feb shooting some porn. If you read this forum you will know that St Petersburg has a big industry and a lot of top European girls start off there. It is a lot harder to do now that mixphoto has shut down but through my contacts in the industry I am able to organise shoots. Did it once last year. Given Petersburg is shut down in feb I don't expect anyone to be there but if you are and want to shoot a scene or just meet up for a drink let me know. I also have a lot of friends there not connected to porn so we can meet up with them as well.[/QUOTE]
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Turn on your private message
Hi Hzivr.
I tried to send you a message but you need to turn on your private message facility.
[QUOTE=Hzlvr; 1247030]Hey Jonners.
I haven't used this forum that much, well actually by reading I have found answers to my questions. But I couldn't find how to write a PM to you, anyhow I am interested on your post, if possible send me a PM or something.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1239096]I am going to be in Piter in the second week of Feb shooting some porn. If you read this forum you will know that St Petersburg has a big industry and a lot of top European girls start off there. It is a lot harder to do now that mixphoto has shut down but through my contacts in the industry I am able to organise shoots. Did it once last year. Given Petersburg is shut down in feb I don't expect anyone to be there but if you are and want to shoot a scene or just meet up for a drink let me know. I also have a lot of friends there not connected to porn so we can meet up with them as well.[/QUOTE]Hello, Jonners,
Making a porn movie with EE girls is always my dream, even a amateur just for my personal consumption. How much budget would needed for that?
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Porn
Hi Hbengkok. Your PM facility is also not set up)
Go to Forum Actions on the blue bar at the top and then go to Forum settings and then tick Private messaging on)
[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1248259]Hello, Jonners,
Making a porn movie with EE girls is always my dream, even a amateur just for my personal consumption. How much budget would needed for that?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jonners; 1248401]Hi Hbengkok. Your PM facility is also not set up)
Go to Forum Actions on the blue bar at the top and then go to Forum settings and then tick Private messaging on) [/QUOTE]Just understand how to activate PM, already did. Thank you, Jonners.
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Hi all mongers. I will be st. Pete at this wwekend. Only for a 2 days trip. I booked Belvedere Nevsky Business Hotel.
- Is this hotel girl friendly?
- I am already trying to contact with some mamba. Ru hotties. Any other opt, ons?
- How can I find Sallons? Are they safe?
- I want GFE. What is the best choice for that? Mamba. Ru?
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Does anyone has updated recommendations on Salons near Nevsky Prospect, thanks a lot.
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Karamelki
Hi,
Does anyone know what happened to Karamelki? The site is down and all the salons / girls have disappeared off rusdosug.com. Surely the whole thing can't have gone, they were the best.
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Vasilevsky
Can't believe I finally stumbled across this site. Great job all.
First post, so please correct any of my etiquette mistakes.
I am a frequent traveller to Saint Petersburg. Normally staying on Vasilevsky island.
Here is some feedback on a few places I've visited:
Maximus.
- Been there a few times, always consistent with the quality of talent (HOT!)
- Door $$ (High)
- Drinks $$ (High)
- Girls $$ (Mid, nice menu)
- All in all, great place to relax, nice ambience (dark) and nice private rooms.
Strip Club on the Boat at the embankment (for a lack of words)
- Its a boat.
- Door $$ (Low)
- Drinks $$ (Low)
- Girls $$ (Low-Mid) Didn't see private rooms.
4th Line Salon (don't know the name)
- Safe place.
- Lots of talent to choose from, went with a few friends.
- Many private rooms and showers.
- Lots on the menu.
- Girls $$ (Mid)
I think that Salon is still open, not sure about the Boat since I didn't see it there last time I was in the city.
Going back soon, I think I'd like to try in call at the hotel. Any tips on independent girls?
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[QUOTE=Leskov; 1255540]Hi,
Does anyone know what happened to Karamelki? The site is down and all the salons / girls have disappeared off rusdosug. Com. Surely the whole thing can't have gone, they were the best.[/QUOTE]Their website [url]http://www.karamelki.org/[/url] Is not gone.
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Thanks, somehow lost that.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1256316]Their website.
[url]http://www.karamelki.org/[/url]
Is not gone.[/QUOTE]
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St Petersburg Porn Scene 1. Dominica and Jess
A bit ago I posted a report saying that I was shooting porn in St Petersburg. Someone said that they thought it would be a good idea if I posted a report about it and I know that people have posted similar reports in the past. I hope my reports are interesting and that you learn about the porn industry in St Petersburg. The first scene I shot was on the Monday morning that I got to St Petersburg. It is a good scene to describe because not everything went well and shows that things do go wrong. I have also attached a few photos.
The scene was with 2 girls and myself and was standard sex scene ie there was no anal. Dominica is the blonde girl and Jess is the red haired girl. I think both are very pretty and both had huge tits which as normal for Russian girls were natural. The studio was the apartment I was staying in and I decided to shoot in the living room as it had good light during the day and I did not need to use lighting (in most porn scenes artifical lighting is used). Also for this scene I shot the scene in a POV style. When the girls arrived they both took off their street clothes, took a shower, put on make-up, changed into the dresses that I bought with me and they put on the stilletos, l had requested they bring. Then the girls filled in their model release forms and I took photos of them with their I'd's which is needed to prove that the girls are over 18. This time also helps break the ice and to get ready for the scene itself, generally you talk about the industry and learn more about the girls and their personalities. It became obvious that Dominica was the more outgoing girl whereas Jess was a bit quieter. I then talked the girls through how we were going to shoot the scene and what we were going to shoot. By now the girls had been in the apartment for an hour and unusually neither had arrived late or phoned to cancel. It is quite standard in porn that you need to change girls at the last moment which can be very annoying.
Now we were ready to start the scene I started off with doing about 45 mins of photos. The girls started by doing a slow striptease with both in shot, I concentrated on taking pictures of their tits as they carressed each other over their dresses causing their nipples to harden. Then each girl pulled down the other's top in the process releasing their boobs with a pop. When we reshot this part of the scene for the video Jess caught one of Dominica's nipples on her dress causing it to rip showing the low quality of the dresses (and the hardness of Dominia's nips)! Next after asking the girls to spend some time french kissing each other I encouraged them to stand in front of the couch licking and playing with each other's boobs some more. This was the first time I had done a 2 girl scene with such big breasted devushki and I really wanted to enjoy it although I was dying to get involved myself. I managed to control myself and continued to take photos as Jess lay on the couch with Dominica's tongue deep in her pussy. Jess then returned the favour to Dominica. Both gently moaned as they enjoyed the pleasure given by the other. Finally I asked them to 69 each other and I took another 20 pictures of the girls tongues in a variety of positions in each others' pussy and ass. By this time I myself couldn't resist any longer and as I moved towards the sofa I pulled out my huge erection. Like all good porn girls I didn't need to explain any further and Dominica took me in her mouth and started pumping away while Jess gently licked my balls. They then swapped my cock between each others' mouth three or four times, while I desperately tried not to forget to take photos. By this stage I knew that if we continued I would cum and so begged them to stop so we could start the video shoot (at this stage you would not know that it was me who was producing the scene).
For the video shoot we then did the same series of scenes that we did for the photo shoot. Although once we got to the blowjob we continued on until I ended. Normally at this point you stop every so often to take some more photos but there was probably only 30/40 more photos taken in the rest of the shoot. So for the video the girls again did a nice striptease and both played with the other's boobs and pussy until I was ready to join in. After 30 mins of filming this I was again ready to get involved and again we started off with both girls giving me a blowjob. Once we finished that I asked Jess to lick my ass as Dominica carried on blowing me off and then again the girls swapped. Like quite a lot of porn girls they only lightly licked my ass but it was still a fanatastic feeling and got me prepared for the main part of the scene. I made the girls stand up and bent them both over with their hands flat on the seat of the couch. I then entered Dominica while I played with Jess's pussy and as normal after 5 minutes (which always feels a lot longer when you are filming) I swapped around. I always love the sight of breasts of girls swinging when they are being taken in this way and my shots of both girls' boobs going to and fro ha to be my favourite of this scene. Next I lay the girls in 69 position on the couch and entered each one in turn as the other licked my cock as it went in. The next position was to lie each girl down on the couch in turn as I entered her in the T- position as the other girl sat on her face and French kissed me. This wasn't an easy position to maintain so I finished it quite quickly. I then F*cked Jess in the missionary position with her legs around my back while Dominica kissed her. Then it was Dominica's turn by this point I was very close to coming and gradually built up a rythym where I was on the brink. I had explained to the the girls at the beginning of the shoot that I wanted to creampie Dominica and that I then wanted Jess to lick it out. Therefore I exploded inside Dominica. It was my firrst shoot and I had been saving up for a week so it went on for a long time. About 3 seconds after I finished I heard a screech 'Nooooo! ' and then 'you came inside me' to which I replied 'yes that is what I said I would do' and then she shouted 'no I thought you meant fake creampie'. After 5 minutes of arguing and then discussion where I explained I had never said fake creampie and we sorted everything out she calmed down. However by this stage the scene was ruined as obviously I had stopped filming when she started screaming at me but we did some half-hearted cum play scenes. This was now three and half hours after the start and the girls cleaned themselves up and left. I had shot an hour of video. Over next few days I will try and post reports and pictures of some more scenes.
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St Petersburg Porn Scene 2. Dusya
the second scene i shot in st petersburg on the tuesday was another point of view scene and this time i chose to shoot it in the bedroom. luckily the cameraman who was going to shoot the wednesday scene dropped the lights off a day early so i was able to use them for this scene. when dusya arrived, she got ready for the scene, i took pictures of her i'd and she signed a model release form. i had brought some sexy costumes for the girls i was shooting to dress up in and for this scene i got her to dress up in a dorothy cotume from the wizard of oz. i wasn't sure whether this costume would work but when she put it on i thought she looked great. she was a very different look from the girls i shot on monday with a slim physique and nice but not huge boobs. however also like the girls on monday she spoke good english so it was easy to communicate with her and talk through what i wanted to do in the scene and i specially checked that she was happy to do a creampie! she was very easy to talk to and before starting to film we discussed the differences between escorting and porn and how she saw them both as very different and that she would not want to escort as she did not think that she would be suited to it. this is something i have heard quite often from porn actresses although some actresses are quite happy to escort. throughout the filming dusya was very lively and we hd a good laugh which made the scene very easy to shoot, she also had shot lot of porn so did not need much direction from me.
again i spent 30 mins taking some solo pictures of her i then started filming the video scene again stopping to take a few pictures before carrying on again. shooting a pov scene is very different to shooting a scene with a cameraman and shooting pov is actually very difficult. the biggest problem is keeping the camera steady while you are having sex with the girl and your body is moving backwards and forwards. also there are many fewer positions that look good in a pov shoot than in a shoot with a cameraman. one that is good is when the girl gets on top of the guy in the cowgirl position and you can film her moving up and down from a good position. also i personally always think blowjob look good in a pov scene with the camera looking down on the girl sucking cock.
after filming dusya slowly taking off her clothes which included a sexy white petticoat and rolling down her stockings, she started to play with her pussy for 5 mins. a couple of close-up shots and i was ready to get involved in the scene. i always think porn for the guy is pretty easy and i just pulled down my trousers and underwear releasing the beast. dusya slowly slid along the bed and put her mouth over my dick and started to give me a nice sensuous blowjob. slowing everything down a much as possible always looks good on film. she then pushed my dick into her cheek as she continued on me. her mouth was very wet and i while i was really enjoying this i knew that we would need move onto the next position. she moved around and i entered her from behind. i got some great shots of my cock moving in and out of her pussy from this position. she was so wet it was very easy to move in and out of her. next she climbed on top of me and we f*cked in the cowgirl position. then we moved onto missionary. this is not a great position for pov and really i could only focus on her face as we f*cked. however like a true professional she took hold of the camera and filmed me going in and out which was a much better shot. in addition without holding the camera i could vary the speed i was entering her at and also how hard i was doing her. lastly we moved back to doggy ready for the money shot! as i built up to it did not concentrate too much on the camerawork and it was just a bit shaky! finally i creampied her although this time, unlike monday, there were no screeches and they was a lot less cum. as i pulled out of her my cum started to drip down her leg onto the bed which i caught on film and like a star she turned around and started to lick it off the bedclothes. i then put my fingers into her pussy and the remaining cum covered them in my juices which she also licked clean with a lovely smile. the creampie part of the scene lasted for about 5 minutes and by the time we finished i was hard again. i asked her whether she wanted to see if i was able to cum twice which she was enthusiastic about trying. i asked her to lay down on her back and passed her the camera as i entered her. for the next 10 mins she filmed as i built up to another orgasm. when the second one took place i gave her a nice facial which i again caught on film.
this scene i think was the best i shot while i was there although it probably would have been better with a cameraman than as a pov scene but it was great none-the-less.
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St Petersburg Scene 3. Kate and Yuri
Its now Wednesday and I am ready for shooting scene 3. This is very different from my previous 2 scenes. Firstly I am using a cameraman and not shooting it as a POV scene. This is something I recommend for the first few scenes someone shoots as you get a much higher quality film and pictures. Also having a cameraman means that you can shoot more posiions and from better angles than you can do in a POV scene. In addition as I was shooting scenes for my site I decided to use another guy in this scene and did not take part myself. I had contacts with a number of guys but the guy I asked to shoot this scene was called Yuri. The last time I was in Piter I shot a DP scene with him and had got on with him really well. Also I knew that he treated the girls well which can be a problem with some of the guys in the Piter porn industry. Lastly he is hung like a horse which helps make a good scene!
Again I decided to shoot a boy girl sex scene without anal. The story of the scene was that Juri hd been to the soccer and had returned home where his girlfriend decided to give him a lap-dance and from there they go to the next stage. Luckily I have a few soccer shirts in my wardrobe as it is always good to shoot girl in a sports shirt. Threfore I gave a Liverpool one to Yuri to wear. The girl we were shooting was called Kate and I gave her one of the 'sexy' costumes I had brought with me. It was a sexy safari outfit. I thought it would be perfect for Kate as it was for a big boobed girl and Kate was impressive in this department. On looking over the photos I think I made a mistake with this outfit as it made her look big (which she certainly wasn't). Before the scene started I talked through the scene with Kate, she was more shy than Dominica and Dusya but was very nice and had a lovely smile. Also she needed a lot more direction than alot of the other girls I have shot which I think was due to her inexperience. As I was talking to Kate I noticed Yuri putting bed linen over the window. I couldn't help laughing that he was worried about privacy when he was shooting a porn scene.
I had also changed apartments so the scene started off on the couch in the new apartment with Yuri watching Kate slowly perform a striptease and lapdance. We put music on the radio which relaxed the actors and made for a better ambiance. The first part of the scene was again photos and then we moved onto video. Once Kate performed her lapdance Yuri had a huge erection and was ready to get down to action. Inevitably this being porn it involved a blowjob. As she went up and down on him he held her hair to give dima the cameraman a better shot. After the blowjob he stood her up and bent her over on the couch ready to enter her from behind. When he did I heard an audible squeal from Kate a his member went into her. I must say I was a bit annoyed as no girl has ever done that with me. At this point I was sitting in the kitchen preparing for Thursday's scene, however having spent a day editing the video I have heard that squeal quite a few times although I couldn't resist watching Kate's tits swing backwards and forwards as Yuri f*cked her. After 10 minutes of this Juri put one of his legs up on the couch as well. This allowed Dima to get some great shots of Yuri going in and out of Kate's pussy. Next he sat down on the sofa and she bounced up and down on top of him although given his size she was having to go up and down such a long way that at one point I thought she was going to fall off the sofa. After a couple more positions. 69 and spoons. Yuri was ready to cum. He stood up and and she got ready to take a facial. It was obvious that Yuri hadn't cum for couple of days as he coated her face. At this point Yuri looked into the camera and said 'Championes' which again made me laugh. Dima quickly grabbed the stills camera and took some photos.
This was another good scene which I was happy with. The only regret I h was not tking part myself. Maybe I will shoot with her next time I am in Piter!
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I was st pete last weekend, too! Unfortunately I couldn't find girls easily. I went to karamelki working apartments several times. There are good girls in these apartments but always condomed blowjob and usually no anal and no photos& filming. Where did you find these girls? Can you give me some tips? I will go to st pete again between 23 and 26 of March. I want to shoot my own film, too. How much this costed you? Can you help me to find these girls?
Thanks
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Hi PlantMagic,
Sorry I have replied to your PM. It takes a long time to write these reports so sometimes I am not able to reply straightaway.
[QUOTE=PlantMagic; 1257980]I was st pete last weekend, too! Unfortunately I couldn't find girls easily. I went to karamelki working apartments several times. There are good girls in these apartments but always condomed blowjob and usually no anal and no photos& filming. Where did you find these girls? Can you give me some tips? I will go to st pete again between 23 and 26 of March. I want to shoot my own film, too. How much this costed you? Can you help me to find these girls?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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St Petersburg Porn Scene 4. Bolly and Angela
on thursday i shot my fourth scene. this scene was my second boy girl girl scene of the week and i would be acting in it again myself. the grls were bolly who was the taller, black-haired, blue-eyed girl and angela who was the slightly shorter brown-haired, brown-eyed girl. once both of the girls arrived (angela was running late) they both took showers and got ready for the scene, i had brought a couple of schoolgirl costumes that i asked them to wear. it seems to me almost every second porn scene has girls wearing these costumes but it did look sexy on them both. as the girls posed for their i'd shots and filled in their release forms i had a chat with them. initially i thought angela was a bit more reserved than bolly which i found strange as she had done a lot more porn than bolly. also she had been shooting some hairy porn so she had pubic hair below which although i was aware of was still a bit of a surprise when i saw it as i had got used shaved girls. also i noticed that bolly had had a boob job which is really unusual for russian porn girls but didn't really bother me. i think of course whenever you do a boy girl girl scene there is always one girl you fancy more than the other. in the first scene i shot it was dominica ad in this scene it was bolly, although i always try not to show the girls that is what i thought. the cameraman shooting this scene told me that he liked angela more.
the scene started with pictures and the girls slowly stripping off. i was standing behind the cameraman giving directions to the girls. once they had taken off their tops they started kissing each other and moved into a lesbian scene. at this point i moved into the scene and i started off by french kissing each girl in turn then i slowly peeled down my jeans and released my cock. the girls then slithered down to the floor to give me a bj. i moved my cock from one mouth to another and made sure the other girl who wasn't sucking my cock at the time was licking my sac or crack. as ever a blissful experience. after 50 or so photos we all put our clothes back on for the video and repeated the scenes we shot for pictures. the great thing about doing it this way is you get a bj for twice as long as you might do normally ). if you ever do shoot you own scene i would recommend that when you are doing pictures you get the girls to give you a proper bj some girls because it is pictures will just move their mouths to a number of stationary by positions which is not aspleasuereable as making sure they move up and down and also it gives a better erection for the photos. if you signnal to th girls to move up and down they all do. when we got to the nd of the bj i bent the girls over the sofa again and started doing one from behind while playing with the others pussy and moving from one pussy to the other. this is quite good because as you take you cock out of one girls pussy you can gape her for the camera. then we all got on the sofa and i did bolly doggy as she licked angela's pussy. then we swapped around and i did angela doggy hile she licked bolly.
for some reason i got into a really uncomfortable position and after a few minutes of banging away totally lost my erection. at the time i didn't know why because i had taken viagra as normal before the scene but looking back on it now i had taken a 100mg tab rather than half a 50 mg tablet so although it had given me an erection it also made me flushed and hot and i needed a lot of water and by the middle part of the scene i just lost it. this has happened to me before and porn girls are quite used to it so initially they waited for 5 mins to see if it would come back quickly as i used my hand to try and get it back. then they went and had a quick smoke and drink of water and a chat while waiing. i also walked around the apartment and got a drink of water. however still nothing was happening. i had a chat with angela and then with bolly. both still were without clothes. while talking to bolly my cock reminded me that i actually fancied her and strted to come back a bit. at the point i got her to crouch on the floor and give me a bj. as there are no fluffers the girls are quite used to doing this job. soon everything was back working and we were ready to restart the scene. also i could tell that bolly was chuffed that she'd been able to get me going again.
so back to the sofa and this time i lay down as each girl took turns to bounce up and down on my dick. while the other girl sat on my face as i licked her out. we then did missionary with both girls kissing while i f*cked each in turn. then i got the girls to do 69 i entered one from behind while the other licked my cock as it when in and out of her friends pussy. by this stage i was ready to cum and like any good porn actor this time i wanted to come all over the face of one of the girls. obviously as i fancied bolly more i decided it would be her. so i got ready with angela caressing my legs as i was doing bolly. then i came over bolly's face it was a good facial. at this point i tried to get angela to lick it off but after some bad acting where it was obvious her mouth wasn't going anywhere near the cum i gvae up. bolly then cleaned herself up with a towel and we got back down to action for a 2nd cumshot. this time i gave angela a facial and bolly licked her face clean or pretended to) however she was a better actress and made it less obvious she wasn't.
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[QUOTE=Jonners; 1258219]On Thursday I shot my fourth scene. This scene was my second boy girl girl scene of the week and I would be acting in it again myself. The grls were Bolly who was the taller, black-haired, blue-eyed girl and Angela who was the slightly shorter brown-haired, brown-eyed girl. Once both of the girls arrived (Angela was running late) they both took showers and got ready for the scene, I had brought a couple of schoolgirl costumes that I asked them to wear. It seems to me almost every second porn scene has girls wearing these costumes but it did look sexy on them both. As the girls posed for their I'd shots and filled in their release forms I had a chat with them. Initially I thought Angela was a bit more reserved than bolly which I found strange as she had done a lot more porn than Bolly. Also she had been shooting some hairy porn so she had pubic hair below which although I was aware of was still a bit of a surprise when I saw it as I had got used shaved girls. Also I noticed that Bolly had had a boob job which is really unusual for Russian porn girls but didn't really bother me. I think of course whenever you do a boy girl girl scene there is always one girl you fancy more than the other. In the first scene I shot it was Dominica ad in this scene it was Bolly, although I always try not to show the girls that is what I thought. The cameraman shooting this scene told me that he liked Angela more.
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So back to the sofa and this time I lay down as each girl took turns to bounce up and down on my dick. While the other girl sat on my face as I licked her out. We then did missionary with both girls kissing while I f*cked each in turn. Then I got the girls to do 69 I entered one from behind while the other licked my cock as it when in and out of her friends pussy. By this stage I was ready to cum and like any good porn actor this time I wanted to come all over the face of one of the girls. Obviously as I fancied Bolly more I decided it would be her. So I got ready with angela caressing my legs as I was doing Bolly. Then I came over Bolly's face it was a good facial. At this point I tried to get Angela to lick it off but after some bad acting where it was obvious her mouth wasn't going anywhere near the cum I gvae up. Bolly then cleaned herself up with a towel and we got back down to action for a 2nd cumshot. This time I gave Angela a facial and Bolly licked her face clean or pretended to) however she was a better actress and made it less obvious she wasn't.[/QUOTE]Dear Jonners,
Great report, as I am into filming myself too (done it in Ukraine and Dubai) I appreciate very much your insights and your methodolgy. I would like to know how much you paid for them and how you found them as you mention that they are proffesionals and have done filming before. I usually find them through normal webpage like mamba and ask them if they are into filming but never met anyone who has done pornmovies before.
Kind regards.
Easyease
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1258219]On Thursday I shot my fourth scene.[/QUOTE]Jonners,
Good report indeed. Do you use a service or a web site to arrange these sessions? I seem to recall a services that was popular a few years back called.
[url]www.mixphoto.com[/url]
But the site seems to have been taken down.
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In Piter on 24. 03. 2012
Hi guys,
I will be in Petersburg for one week between 24-31. 03-2012.
I need to find an apartment which is close to action.
I had checked Oksana but it's a bit expensive.
Is it possible to find an apartment not more than 60 USD / day.
Which agencyes you advice?
And a second issue I will be on salons and freebie scene mostly but I wish to be also in strip-clubs. I have read that most of them are ripp-off places.
Do you know a decent one? I just want to watch striptease and get lapdances with tips?
Recommendations will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Take care.
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Latin Dance clubs in St. Petersburg
Is there any Latin Dance Clubs in St. Peterburg, which ones you recommend?
Any info will be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Misc St Petersburg
I've been visiting StPb regularly for over 5 years (work). The first year I used hotels (very expensive but with numerous perks). Once I became familiar with the city I switched to Oxsana's. I highly recommend her. But she is now on the expensive side (all of her apartments have been renovated in a European style, have internet, cable, cleaning). The other agency I am very familiar with is "Introbyirina." I also highly recommend her. Her apartments are in the middle price range ("normal" Russian style apartments (not renovated). All have internet, washing machine. No cleaning service. Currently, I'm staying in apartments that friends or friends of friends rent to me while they are away, but I used both Oxana and Irina a lot over the years and never had any problems. On more than one occasion Irina helped me out by finding me an apartment at the last minute. A very cheap option is to find a room that a family / grandmother / etc is renting out, but you will be living with the owners and sharing the kitchen, toilet, bathroom, etc. Cheap, but not a good mongering option.
As far as finding an apartment now in Stpb to rent for less than 60$. I don't think it is possible if you are a foreigner or do not have Russian friends in stpb. Maybe during the very low period in winter, like late January and February. During White Nights and the New Year expect to pay around well over 100$ (but you need to book early). The summer is also considered a "high" season, and the prices go up. Many, many foreigners visit StPb now and look for apartments. If you ask for an apartment away from the center, you can find cheaper options, but with downsides (it might take you over an hour to go by bus / metro to the center, the bridges opening might be an issue and prevent you from returning to your apartment if you stay out late in the center, the metro closes down at 12. 30.). Taxis in stpb cost as much as in a European capital. But if you are with Russian friends you will probably stick your hand out and try and flag down a driver who is looking to make some extra money by giving people lifts. I've never done this when alone, but when I am with the girl I usually meet with in piter she does this every time we go out.
As far as clubs go. The best I can suggest is to read the blog on Oxsana's website. It has club reviews and some of them are hilarious (but also useful). There is also a restaurant blog on her site. Personally, I don't often go to clubs, and if I go I usually go to smaller ones with friends. There's an interesting club on Fontanka I do recommend, it's the "New Year's Club" where they have a New Year countdown / party EVERY night (I've never gone unaccompanied, so I can't comment on the chances of picking up any girls there) , but this is more of a "what a tourist should do at least once" recommendation. Next door to it is another club, one with marriage ceremonies / parties every night (never been).
Salons. Don't like them and I have given up on them. My experiences with them were all bad. Unfortunately, I've never had any personal recommendations, so maybe that's the problem, as there are many many salons in stpb (and many near the center).
As far as my success with finding girls in stpb, I've used the adult online porn sites (many many studios in stpb) and mamba. I've now got a half dozen or so girls that I can meet with during my visits for 2-3 hour romps (I pay 4000rubles. 10000 rubles for 2-3 hours, money depending on what they provide in sex) , and one girl that usually stays with me most or all of my stay. I still sometimes try and meet with new girls from the aforementioned sites (always good to keep options open). In the day, I met with some absolutely gorgeous girls from Yaroslavl who were working on sites, but it seems that those days are gone (the girls in the Yaroslavl studios are more "professional" now and less likely to want to meet foreigners or make the trip to stpb). There are alo lot of Russian men with money now, and these men may be more appealing to Russian girls who are looking to supplement their income. However, the gap between the haves and have nots in Russia is huge. And I think stpb is still a good city for mongering, it just take more time and energy and a good amount of luck.
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis; 1263853]I've been visiting StPb regularly for over 5 years (work). The first year I used hotels (very expensive but with numerous perks). Once I became familiar with the city I switched to Oxsana's. I highly recommend her. But she is now on the expensive side (all of her apartments have been renovated in a European style, have internet, cable, cleaning). The other agency I am very familiar with is "Introbyirina." I also highly recommend her. Her apartments are in the middle price range ("normal" Russian style apartments (not renovated). All have internet, washing machine. No cleaning service. Currently, I'm staying in apartments that friends or friends of friends rent to me while they are away, but I used both Oxana and Irina a lot over the years and never had any problems. On more than one occasion Irina helped me out by finding me an apartment at the last minute. A very cheap option is to find a room that a family / grandmother / etc is renting out, but you will be living with the owners and sharing the kitchen, toilet, bathroom, etc. Cheap, but not a good mongering option.
As far as finding an apartment now in Stpb to rent for less than 60$. I don't think it is possible if you are a foreigner or do not have Russian friends in stpb. Maybe during the very low period in winter, like late January and February. During White Nights and the New Year expect to pay around well over 100$ (but you need to book early). The summer is also considered a "high" season, and the prices go up. Many, many foreigners visit StPb now and look for apartments. If you ask for an apartment away from the center, you can find cheaper options, but with downsides (it might take you over an hour to go by bus / metro to the center, the bridges opening might be an issue and prevent you from returning to your apartment if you stay out late in the center, the metro closes down at 12. 30.). Taxis in stpb cost as much as in a European capital. But if you are with Russian friends you will probably stick your hand out and try and flag down a driver who is looking to make some extra money by giving people lifts. I've never done this when alone, but when I am with the girl I usually meet with in piter she does this every time we go out.
As far as clubs go. The best I can suggest is to read the blog on Oxsana's website. It has club reviews and some of them are hilarious (but also useful). There is also a restaurant blog on her site. Personally, I don't often go to clubs, and if I go I usually go to smaller ones with friends. There's an interesting club on Fontanka I do recommend, it's the "New Year's Club" where they have a New Year countdown / party EVERY night (I've never gone unaccompanied, so I can't comment on the chances of picking up any girls there) , but this is more of a "what a tourist should do at least once" recommendation. Next door to it is another club, one with marriage ceremonies / parties every night (never been).
Salons. Don't like them and I have given up on them. My experiences with them were all bad. Unfortunately, I've never had any personal recommendations, so maybe that's the problem, as there are many many salons in stpb (and many near the center).
As far as my success with finding girls in stpb, I've used the adult online porn sites (many many studios in stpb) and mamba. I've now got a half dozen or so girls that I can meet with during my visits for 2-3 hour romps (I pay 4000rubles. 10000 rubles for 2-3 hours, money depending on what they provide in sex) , and one girl that usually stays with me most or all of my stay. I still sometimes try and meet with new girls from the aforementioned sites (always good to keep options open). In the day, I met with some absolutely gorgeous girls from Yaroslavl who were working on sites, but it seems that those days are gone (the girls in the Yaroslavl studios are more "professional" now and less likely to want to meet foreigners or make the trip to stpb). There are alo lot of Russian men with money now, and these men may be more appealing to Russian girls who are looking to supplement their income. However, the gap between the haves and have nots in Russia is huge. And I think stpb is still a good city for mongering, it just take more time and energy and a good amount of luck.[/QUOTE]I had stayed in Oksana. If you wouldn't take the girl in your room it's unnecessary. Moreover they have a very smart-arse worker who came to my apartment for taking the money. Why you put your shoes here? Your flight was 2 hours delayed. Your credit card doesn't work. Please don't clean your shoes with our towels. I don't like her. Anyway except that Chuck was really helpfull and apartment was ok.
P. S. I had stayed there 5 nights but I am not aspirant to share my experiences with people here because they look like don't care it. BTW thanks for your sharing useful information Skwiskwis.
Take care.
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As far as my success with finding girls in stpb, I've used the adult online porn sites (many many studios in stpb) and mamba. I've now got a half dozen or so girls that I can meet with during my visits for 2-3 hour romps (I pay 4000rubles. 10000 rubles for 2-3 hours, money depending on what they provide in sex) , and one girl that usually stays with me most or all of my stay.
Skwiskwis, can you please let us know which porn sites you're writing about?
Best
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Misc St Petersburg
Ruscams and VIP-girl (the girls are Russian, Belorussian and Ukranian) but most of the girls don't speak any English (these are Russian sites). In the past, I had success with English language sites like camcontact, livejasmin and cumtv, although I don't visit them much anymore. The problem with the latter three sites is it will take some research to figure out where a girl is from, since many will lie and say they are from Russia (Russia seems to be the most popular fake home for girls from Romania, Latvia, and Ukraine). As I recall, the top three Russia cities with studios are St Pb, Novosibirsk (in Siberia) , and Yaroslavl (near Moscow).
Bye the way, taking off your shoes when you enter a Russian home and placing them by the door and wearing slippers is a very strong tradition. It is considered very rude to wear your shoes in someone's home, and if you have a guest in your rented apartment and she see's you wearing shoes she will be shocked. When I asked a Russian about this one time, she replied "have you seen our streets?"
I also recalled that one time I found an agency that did rent very inexpensive apartments. I think I paid 40$ a night and it was near the center. However, the apartment was the size of a shoebox and you couldn't put toilet paper in the toilet, you had to put used toilet paper in the trash can next to the toilet (the sewage pipe was too narrow). This last aspect grossed me out and I changed apartments after one night.
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Visitng St. Petersburg for First Time (Help Needed)
Hello Everyone,
I will be visiting St. Petersburg for the first time from 11th May to 15th May. This is goint to be a Business and Mongering Trip.
Will be staying at the Holiday Inn near Airport. Also I will be in Dubai from 16th to 19th and then will be back to India.
Guys please help and inform me about the Places where you can pick-up girls, I am not necessarily looking for Cheap prices but quality is more important for me.
Kindly help me with the name of places or clubs or pubs or if you know of any good independent or escort service any help will be much appreciated.
You can also PM me as I have recently activated it.
Thanks
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You can try karamelki and mumu saloons. Both are safe and full of great girls. Don't try rusdosug or similar sites because almost all photos and services in adverts are fake. If you have budget you can try to hang with famous pronstrats but it is unneccessary imo. More famous+more beautiful = more problems + caprices. Trust me.
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Moscow too expensive?
Very simple question; ; as someone with english as a first language would it be straightforward to locate and make appointments with the salons that good reviews on this forum? Ie no Russian
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Thanks
Thanks Mr. Plant Magic,
It was great to get your help its because of people like you this forum is such a boon for a newbie like me.
Can you also please confirm if the girls in these places can speak English if no can you suggest some places where I can get English speaking girls again budget is no problem.
Also if I ask a cab driver for the karamelki and mumu will they take me directly there. Also any suggestions for the pub or bar where I can pick-up.
I apologioze if I am asking too many questions but since this is my first visit to St. Peters I want to make full use of it.
Thanks
[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1268325]You can try karamelki and mumu saloons. Both are safe and full of great girls. Don't try rusdosug or similar sites because almost all photos and services in adverts are fake. If you have budget you can try to hang with famous pronstrats but it is unneccessary imo. More famous+more beautiful = more problems + caprices. Trust me.[/QUOTE]
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If you want to visit SPB and have maximum fun
Helo, my friends.
My name is Dmitry. I work as club and entertainment guide near 2 years. During this time I have had many satisfied customers, who was taken big ple&1072; sure spending dosug time in Saint-Petersburg with my help.
I'm professional pickuper and good man. In list of services includes: professional driver (may be 2 cars for us and our girls) , security guard (if you want) , help to rent an apartment (1-5 rooms flat) , shopping, cooking, notebook with internet, accompaniment in bars, clubs, restaurants, night saunas, help to meet girls in clubs or find a girl for money and so on.
I ll be good friend and helper for you. All the time I'm with you. Which excludes the possibility of cheeter or a mafia meeting. Pleased visitor today, tomorrow, a new foreign friend.
I work with both men and women. Write me and we will discuss any options your holiday in St. Petersburg. My own contact details I will send in a personal message.
With respect.
Dmitry, your guide
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[QUOTE=Busybee; 1268578]Thanks Mr. Plant Magic,
It was great to get your help its because of people like you this forum is such a boon for a newbie like me.
Can you also please confirm if the girls in these places can speak English if no can you suggest some places where I can get English speaking girls again budget is no problem.
Also if I ask a cab driver for the karamelki and mumu will they take me directly there. Also any suggestions for the pub or bar where I can pick-up.
I apologioze if I am asking too many questions but since this is my first visit to St. Peters I want to make full use of it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Helo, my friend.
My name is Dmitry. I work as club and entertainment guide near 2 years. During this time I have had many satisfied customers, who was taken big ple&1072; sure spending dosug time in Saint-Petersburg with my help.
I'm professional pickuper and good man. In list of services includes: professional driver (may be 2 cars for us and our girls) , security guard (if you want) , help to rent an apartment (1-5 rooms flat) , shopping, cooking, notebook with internet, accompaniment in bars, clubs, restaurants, night saunas, help to meet girls in clubs or find a girl for money and so on.
I ll be good friend and helper for you. All the time I'm with you. Which excludes the possibility of cheeter or a mafia meeting. Pleased visitor today, tomorrow, a new foreign friend.
I work with both men and women. Write me and we will discuss any options your holiday in St. Petersburg. My own contact details I will send in a personal message.
Write SMS-message on number [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]with your email adress and I ll write to you.
With respect.
Dmitry, your guide
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Mate almost nobody speaks english there. If you call saloons and speaks english they will probably hang up. Well what you will do :
- Get phone number of saloon that you want to go
- get in taxi
- call the saloon and give the phone to driver.
- bargain with driver for taxi fare because taximeter means nothing in st pite.
- When you come address of saloon, don't let taxidriver to go. Saloons are in apartments. Some buildings maye have more entry than 1. There is not any sign or something to show you there is saloon there. And there are codes at the doors of building. Mamas in saloons don't speak english. Therefore call the salon again and ask taxidriver to learn "code". Give some tip to driver and demand to enter the code so that you can enter.
- Another option : wait at the door. Somebody will gou out and thus you can enter even if you don't know code. But of course you need to know which flat the saloon is located.
For porn star girls, there are some sites but they usually demands 1200 Eur for 12 hours and 400 Eur for 2 hours. IMO this is scam for westeners. Girls get 300dol for a scene included anal. 1200 Eur is for 12 hours is too much. And even they usually don't speak english, too.
For freebies you need to speak Russian. I didn't go to clubs for mongering because I don't speak Russian. Even I could find hardly the saloons. For a short trip, it is not good idea to try freebies unless you speak Russian.
[QUOTE=Busybee; 1268578]Thanks Mr. Plant Magic,
It was great to get your help its because of people like you this forum is such a boon for a newbie like me.
Can you also please confirm if the girls in these places can speak English if no can you suggest some places where I can get English speaking girls again budget is no problem.
Also if I ask a cab driver for the karamelki and mumu will they take me directly there. Also any suggestions for the pub or bar where I can pick-up.
I apologioze if I am asking too many questions but since this is my first visit to St. Peters I want to make full use of it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1269184]For freebies you need to speak Russian. I didn't go to clubs for mongering because I don't speak Russian. Even I could find hardly the saloons. For a short trip, it is not good idea to try freebies unless you speak Russian.[/QUOTE]Freebies girls does not always mean little money, because they have to buy a drink, entertain, to pay for them, etc.
But this process is really good and interesting. You as lion, as tiger hunting. Not just a silly paying for sex.
Sometimes maybe you can pay for sex, but these are isolated cases.
If you want meet girl in club or another place, you can hire Russian guide, as me.
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Please reply
Hello Mr. Dmitry,
Thanks for your offer. Please let me know should I contact you once I am in St. Petersburg or should I contact you before reaching St. Petersburg.
Also please let me know about your charges so that I can know.
I would be happy to use your services but I need to have this information before hand.
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Can you write your rates in public so that we can see clearly please?
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Clubs and girls
[QUOTE=Busybee; 1269277]Hello Mr. Dmitry,
Thanks for your offer. Please let me know should I contact you once I am in St. Petersburg or should I contact you before reaching St. Petersburg.
Also please let me know about your charges so that I can know.
I would be happy to use your services but I need to have this information before hand.
Thanks[/QUOTE]No problem. Its the average price tag.
I'm working on a partial prepayment. You leave the money in the house in our absence, or hold with them. I have a budget that is used for necessary operations.
You have the cash transactions only with me. (I remember one fellow who stars in the night club purse in what was 450, 000 rubles. So you can not do, to avoid trying to pick up the money by mafia.) I'm always watching the normal course of events.
Better if you contact to me little time before you come, to be ready. I come and take you from airport or train on car with professional driver. Then we come to apartments which we paid for or come to some restaurant to eat, talk and develop our plan.
Price.
1 car with professional driver- 200 euro per night. He all time with us. Drive or waiting us. We go anywhere. If we need smth, he help us.
Second car is hourly because needed not all time.
Apartaments.
Per 24 hours.
1-2 rooms flat- 50-150 euros.
3-5 rooms flat- 120- 500 euros.
Usually we take 3 rooms flat- near 180 euros. I know one good.
Rooms for you with girls, for me, bags etc.
Security guard (powerfull boxer) near 150 euros per night- if you want.
All time I do maximum things for you (all process, security, translate and all other). My own price is 300 euros per day (24 hours)
Another club guides take min 50 euro per hour and more.
In clubs we can lost much money. Alchogol, coming in, alchogol for girls.
Clubs are different. Trash, rich, middle etc.
Usually we lost near 200-500 euro per night. But its really good time.
Thats why I have many regular customers.
Tax amortisation +15% of the total amount issued to me on the day (contingencies, which are many and contingency budget)
If meeting in club is fail- I phone to payed girls and they come to us in any time, if need.
But hunting in club- is better time.
All time I teach you to be a Russian, to get the maximum pleasure and not to stand out from the crowd.
If you think I can be better, we can stop our event in every time. But you ll be first if you want it =)
Are still some questions? Or I missed something? Write to me.
With respect.
Dmitry, the creator of your holiday
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Mate, please don't missunderstand me but you are probably a scammer.
Sorry about that.
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[QUOTE=PlantMagic; 1269870]Mate, please don't missunderstand me but you are probably a scammer.
Sorry about that.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
Why do you think that?
I did not persuade. If someone does not want to work with me, do not need.
What do you think smbd can be a fraud in this matter? All receipts, invoices, price lists, and services are discussed with the client. I get exactly what you paid for my work, not a cent more. Your money all time with you.
If you can find someone better and cheaper, of course you can trust him.
Very often people ask me to participate in the games they bought. With the girls, drinking and so on. This is the most that I get in excess of the salary.
I do not want people to come to me at once, and then went unmet. Much better when they go to me again and again, each time gaining new experiences.
Today night I was on work. Man came to me from Jordan.
We rented room in a restaurant. Ordered four professional strippers, each of whom he had sex.
Then I took him to a hotel in the evening he ll go home.
He did not say that I am a crook. Moreover, he paid me more than I asked for. And said that he would return in early May.
He paid for this event. (96 000 rubles). From 23:00 to 9:00. Single cozy room, a lot of booze and food, sex with four girls and a professional striptease.
It is expensive? I cheat? Very sorry that you think so.
About the repetition of my posts, sorry. Forum examines the content of messages for a long time (several hours). And sometimes I think I clicked something wrong. So I post the answer once again.
If I cheater, I ll banned from the forum. However, this does not happen.
Apparently I'm not a crook.
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Thanks for Clarification
Hi Dimitry,
Thanks for your clarification me and my friend have already booked a Hotel so we don't want to rent a Apartment.
Also we will need your services mainly in the evening as in the day time we have already got business meetings to attend to.
So in this case please let me know your price.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DosugGuide; 1270189]Thank you.
Why do you think that?
I did not persuade. If someone does not want to work with me, do not need.
What do you think smbd can be a fraud in this matter? All receipts, invoices, price lists, and services are discussed with the client. I get exactly what you paid for my work, not a cent more. Your money all time with you.
If you can find someone better and cheaper, of course you can trust him.
Very often people ask me to participate in the games they bought. With the girls, drinking and so on. This is the most that I get in excess of the salary.
I do not want people to come to me at once, and then went unmet. Much better when they go to me again and again, each time gaining new experiences.
Today night I was on work. Man came to me from Jordan.
We rented room in a restaurant. Ordered four professional strippers, each of whom he had sex.
Then I took him to a hotel in the evening he ll go home.
He did not say that I am a crook. Moreover, he paid me more than I asked for. And said that he would return in early May.
He paid for this event. (96 000 rubles). From 23:00 to 9:00. Single cozy room, a lot of booze and food, sex with four girls and a professional striptease.
It is expensive? I cheat? Very sorry that you think so.
About the repetition of my posts, sorry. Forum examines the content of messages for a long time (several hours). And sometimes I think I clicked something wrong. So I post the answer once again.
If I cheater, I ll banned from the forum. However, this does not happen.
Apparently I'm not a crook.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Busybee; 1270661]Hi Dimitry,
Thanks for your clarification me and my friend have already booked a Hotel so we don't want to rent a Apartment.
Also we will need your services mainly in the evening as in the day time we have already got business meetings to attend to.
So in this case please let me know your price.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Of course.
For the night, I usually take 200 euro (from evening to morning).
Also during this time as much as me my driver takes.
We can work with random taxi drivers that might be cheaper. But he is a proven and professional. He also has access to places that can be rented and girls too.
Other money will be paid to the places and people that we use. We sit down, think about what is necessary, make the necessary calls and will calculate the possible waste of money.
I always try to pick the best and most profitable option.
And of course, in case we need to get acquainted with the girls in the club, equal my experience guides not so many.
Remember my telephone number. All time I m in touch.
With respect, Dmitry
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Great reports!
[quote=jonners; 1258219]once both of the girls arrived (angela was running late) they both took showers and got ready for the scene, i had brought a couple of schoolgirl costumes that i asked them to wear. it seems to me almost every second porn scene has girls wearing these costumes but it did look sexy on them both.
the scene started with pictures and the girls slowly stripping off. i was standing behind the cameraman giving directions to the girls. once they had taken off their tops they started kissing each other and moved into a lesbian scene. at this point i moved into the scene and i started off by french kissing each girl in turn then i slowly peeled down my jeans and released my cock. the girls then slithered down to the floor to give me a bj. i moved my cock from one mouth to another and made sure the other girl who wasn't sucking my cock at the time was licking my sac or crack.
this time i gave angela a facial and bolly licked her face clean or pretended to) however she was a better actress and made it less obvious she wasn't.[/quote]i love the schoolgirl thing, and these girls look great! must have been heaven!
it is tough to get ordinary p4p girls to do decent role playing, sometimes they just feel silly in an outfit.
from what i recall from earlier posts (maybe from you?) , sometimes these porn actresses are no more expensive than high-end escorts, and seem willing to do almost anything.
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You are absolutely right. Porn actresses get 300 dol for a scene. For an anal scene they get about 400dol. A scene means 4. 5 hours and you can do everything with thes girls. But, you need to book them over a model agency, not an escort agency! Escort agencies sell same girls 3 or 4 times more expensive! They demand 400 € for 2 hours with same girls. The problem is how you can reach xxx model agencies. Google and a bit experience may help all mongers!
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel; 1271069]I love the schoolgirl thing, and these girls look great! Must have been heaven!
It is tough to get ordinary P4P girls to do decent role playing, sometimes they just feel silly in an outfit.
From what I recall from earlier posts (maybe from you?) , sometimes these porn actresses are no more expensive than high-end escorts, and seem willing to do almost anything.[/QUOTE]
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Shooting porn in St Petersburg
Thank-you Gentleman Tavel. Yes it was great fun shooting those scenes, I enjoy getting the girls to dress up and actually the girls I have shot really enjoy it as well. Some girls are prepared to do almost anything but some girls won't and it takes time and talking with the girls to find out what they will do. Inevitably the more they will do the more expensive the scene is.
Plantmagic. As you very rightly make the point, it is getting the access to the girls that is the problem! If you are able to do this. Direct to the girls. Then all the best to you, but seeing as you have contacted me in the past to discuss organising it, it does not appear that you had much success in that?
Also I am afraid you are not correct how much the girls get for shooting a scene. And, crucially, if you are going via an agency they will add a cut, that's just business after all!. They supply a service which is access, and that is valuable.
Anyway for those that do want to do shoot their own movies (and I would stress my experience that this is very different to escorting or going to salons) please contact me, I can put you in touch with the guys I used who I trust and will use again. As I have noted in the scenes I posted I have my own adult sites that I use these scenes for.
[QUOTE=PlantMagic;1271699]You are absolutely right. Porn actresses get 300 dol for a scene. For an anal scene they get about 400dol. A scene means 4. 5 hours and you can do everything with thes girls. But, you need to book them over a model agency, not an escort agency! Escort agencies sell same girls 3 or 4 times more expensive! They demand 400 € for 2 hours with same girls. The problem is how you can reach xxx model agencies. Google and a bit experience may help all mongers![/QUOTE]
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Pieter films
[QUOTE=Jonners; 1271857]Thank-you Gentleman Tavel. Yes it was great fun shooting those scenes, I enjoy getting the girls to dress up and actually the girls I have shot really enjoy it as well. Some girls are prepared to do almost anything but some girls won't and it takes time and talking with the girls to find out what they will do. Inevitably the more they will do the more expensive the scene is.
Plantmagic. As you very rightly make the point, it is getting the access to the girls that is the problem! If you are able to do this. Direct to the girls. Then all the best to you, but seeing as you have contacted me in the past to discuss organising it, it does not appear that you had much success in that?
Also I am afraid you are not correct how much the girls get for shooting a scene. And, crucially, if you are going via an agency they will add a cut, that's just business after all. They supply a service which is access, and that is valuable.
Anyway for those that do want to do shoot their own movies (and I would stress my experience that this is very different to escorting or going to salons) please contact me, I can put you in touch with the guys I used who I trust and will use again. As I have noted in the scenes I posted I have my own adult sites that I use these scenes for.[/QUOTE]Hi, Jonnes.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to find how to send you a private message.
I'd love to have more of the information you are kindly offering.
I love Slavic girls, and their wild sexuality. Furthermore some enjoy the idea of being x-actress.
I have some experience with photography, but none with filming. A Russian photographer and filmer, has offered me his expertise. He seems nice, but.
If I understood well, you are distributing / showing your films, where? I'd like to find amateur films too.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Jonners; 1271857]Thank-you Gentleman Tavel. Yes it was great fun shooting those scenes, I enjoy getting the girls to dress up and actually the girls I have shot really enjoy it as well. Some girls are prepared to do almost anything but some girls won't and it takes time and talking with the girls to find out what they will do. Inevitably the more they will do the more expensive the scene is.
Plantmagic. As you very rightly make the point, it is getting the access to the girls that is the problem! If you are able to do this. Direct to the girls. Then all the best to you, but seeing as you have contacted me in the past to discuss organising it, it does not appear that you had much success in that?
Also I am afraid you are not correct how much the girls get for shooting a scene. And, crucially, if you are going via an agency they will add a cut, that's just business after all. They supply a service which is access, and that is valuable.
Anyway for those that do want to do shoot their own movies (and I would stress my experience that this is very different to escorting or going to salons) please contact me, I can put you in touch with the guys I used who I trust and will use again. As I have noted in the scenes I posted I have my own adult sites that I use these scenes for.[/QUOTE]Jonners,
I enjoy reading your reports too and appreciated a lot. I read again and again. That 3some is really awesome. And the 3rd scene with Kate really make me want to jump into that scene LOL. How can you find such beautifull babes which willing to do many things.
Maybe if others amateurs who want to make their own movies can join together, so they can shoot each other, while the other make actions. So not too many POV shoot and also this can eliminate the cost for the cameraman (just a thought).
BTW, your PM no longer can received messages. Are the inbox full or there's something else?
Thank you.
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Cameraman
Hi Hbengkok.
Many thanks for your comments.
I think my subscription had run out which is why I was not able to accept PMs I have now renewed it so you should be able to send now. If you have any problems please post and let me know.
In respect of the cameraman I would strongly suggest that you do use a St Petersburg cameraman for at least your first few scenes. Although you may save some money but shooting yourself or getting a friend to shoot there are a number of reasons why, in my experience, you should use one.
The most important reason is that the girls you will shoot will all know what they can earn escorting rather than shooting porn (some of the girls you shoot will escort in for example Paris where clients will pay upto €250 an hour (as Plantmagic points out) and in Dubai even more). Therefore if they think that you are not really shooting porn they will expect to be paid escorting rates. The cameraman will help you as he will know the girls (having filmed them before) and relax them, he will also bring a good camera and lights which makes it look like a proper porn studio and will make you look professional in front of the girl. This will reduce the possibility of an argument and everything going wrong. This almost happened to me when I was shooting a scene and I was glad I had the cameraman there to persuade the girl to film.
Also with a professional videocamera, lights and someone who has filmed adult movies before and so knows the what the best shots are you will get a much better film for your collection than trying to do it yourself or getting friends to do it.
The cameraman will take the pressure off you as performer. Without one you will need to think of everything. Explain your scenario to the girl make sure that you move positions at the right time and concentrate on how you look for the camera. With a professional cameraman he will take a lot of this off you and will act as director as well as cameraman allowing you to concentrate on performing in the scene and more importanantly enjoying yourself. Which is after all what you are paying for.
Once you have done a few scenes the girls will start getting to know you and you will also look like a professional performer and the cameraman is less necessary.
[QUOTE=Hbengkok; 1272175]Jonners,
I enjoy reading your reports too and appreciated a lot. I read again and again. That 3some is really awesome. And the 3rd scene with Kate really make me want to jump into that scene LOL. How can you find such beautifull babes which willing to do many things.
Maybe if others amateurs who want to make their own movies can join together, so they can shoot each other, while the other make actions. So not too many POV shoot and also this can eliminate the cost for the cameraman (just a thought).
BTW, your PM no longer can received messages. Are the inbox full or there's something else?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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Hi Jonners,
Now seems make sense to me, why we should use a cameraman instead of doing ourself. Yes POV and self shooting have very limited visions. Also the cameraman can direct and make next contacts.
I still don't understand how the girls cost cheaper than if they are escorting, but because that's good in our side, no problem at all.
ANyway, thanks a lot for your answer. Hope I can follow your footstep by the end of this year.
[QUOTE=Jonners; 1272568]Hi Hbengkok.
Many thanks for your comments.
I think my subscription had run out which is why I was not able to accept PMs I have now renewed it so you should be able to send now. If you have any problems please post and let me know.
In respect of the cameraman I would strongly suggest that you do use a St Petersburg cameraman for at least your first few scenes. Although you may save some money but shooting yourself or getting a friend to shoot there are a number of reasons why, in my experience, you should use one.
The most important reason is that the girls you will shoot will all know what they can earn escorting rather than shooting porn (some of the girls you shoot will escort in for example Paris where clients will pay upto €250 an hour (as Plantmagic points out) and in Dubai even more). Therefore if they think that you are not really shooting porn they will expect to be paid escorting rates. The cameraman will help you as he will know the girls (having filmed them before) and relax them, he will also bring a good camera and lights which makes it look like a proper porn studio and will make you look professional in front of the girl. This will reduce the possibility of an argument and everything going wrong. This almost happened to me when I was shooting a scene and I was glad I had the cameraman there to persuade the girl to film.
Also with a professional videocamera, lights and someone who has filmed adult movies before and so knows the what the best shots are you will get a much better film for your collection than trying to do it yourself or getting friends to do it.
The cameraman will take the pressure off you as performer. Without one you will need to think of everything. Explain your scenario to the girl make sure that you move positions at the right time and concentrate on how you look for the camera. With a professional cameraman he will take a lot of this off you and will act as director as well as cameraman allowing you to concentrate on performing in the scene and more importanantly enjoying yourself. Which is after all what you are paying for.
Once you have done a few scenes the girls will start getting to know you and you will also look like a professional performer and the cameraman is less necessary.[/QUOTE]
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Fisting
Hello everybody,
I am new to this forum, I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg and hope somebody can help me by answering this question. In websites such as Rusdosug or Putana. Ru many girls are offering fisting as a regular service. Not only vaginal fisting, but even anal fisting. It is a fact that in pornography fisters are almost invariably Russians, but are regular prostitutes really providing this service? Or are the girls in Rusdosug just cheating? Has anybody been looking for fister girls in Saint Petersburg?
Thank you very much in advance.
Aldo
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Fisting
Hi Aldo
I would be very surprised if the girls off rusdosug etc are providing fisting. Very often all the services will be ticked to gain interest but they will not be provided. Given that CBJ is the norm with prostitutes in Piter it makes me even more suspicious. In respect of porn which I know more about if you talk to a lot of the porn girls in piter they will not do fisting. Those that will often say they will only do with a girl and also not anal fisting. There are of course exceptions to this and these girls you will see time and again in these scenes.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Aldo C; 1274995]Hello everybody,
I am new to this forum, I am planning a trip to Saint Petersburg and hope somebody can help me by answering this question. In websites such as Rusdosug or Putana. Ru many girls are offering fisting as a regular service. Not only vaginal fisting, but even anal fisting. It is a fact that in pornography fisters are almost invariably Russians, but are regular prostitutes really providing this service? Or are the girls in Rusdosug just cheating? Has anybody been looking for fister girls in Saint Petersburg?
Thank you very much in advance.
Aldo[/QUOTE]
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thank you jonners. i think you are right about rusdosug; in some cases a girl has ticked "fisting anal" but not "fisting vaginal", which makes no sense. so i assume that also "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] in" is a service they tick only to gain interest, but they do not provide. as for fisting in porn, i also like gir-girl action and self-fisting. i am referring to the movies shot by giorgio grandi ([url]www.dildoandfisting.com[/url]) and to russian girls such as alysa, giuliana grandi, sasha rose etc. do you think it is possibile to meet and have sex with a specific porn actress, such as the ones i mentioned?
thanks.
aldo
[quote=jonners; 1275464]hi aldo
i would be very surprised if the girls off rusdosug etc are providing fisting. very often all the services will be ticked to gain interest but they will not be provided. given that cbj is the norm with prostitutes in piter it makes me even more suspicious. in respect of porn which i know more about if you talk to a lot of the porn girls in piter they will not do fisting. those that will often say they will only do with a girl and also not anal fisting. there are of course exceptions to this and these girls you will see time and again in these scenes.
hope this helps.[/quote]
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Condoms
I'm curious. It seems that with a porn shoot that oral without condom and sex without condom is the norm but it seems most girls on the various sites advertise oral with condom as standard. Why is that and should I assume sex with condom is standard? Is oral and sex without condom typically an additional fee?
This is my first time on the Russia board but I try to contribute in the other places I have visited.
Thanks for any info you give.
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Answers
Hi Aldo. Yummy. I will try and answer both your posts in this post.
Aldo. Interesting I have looked at Giorgio Grandi's site in the past and noticed it has not been updated for a long time. However I know that he is still shooting in Piter as the girls tell me that they have shot with him. I do not know where he is posting his movies now. As for meeting, having sex with and shooting a movie with specific actresses yes this may be possible (I will explain later). I would stress that if you want only to meet and have sex without shooting I cannot help you with as this is escorting and not something I have experience of.
It is not possible to guarantee that a particular girl will be in Piter so you could arrange everything to shoot a particular girl and at the last moment you find out she has flown out to shoot for a big studio or has family problems or has retired, so you cannot shoot her and you have to shoot another girl. Therefore it is better not dream of just shooting one girl. The girls only stay in the business a very short time. Of the girls I shot and posted I have found out recently that 2 have since retired! Of the girls you mention Juliana Grandi retired many years ago. I do not know alysa so I assume she is also retired. However Sasha Rose is still shooting I think.
Yummy. The Porn industry and prostitution (both salons and escorts) in Piter are very different. I do not know the reason why in salons it is very hard to find a girl who will do blowjob without condom but the girls do say it is for health reasons. You may be able to find a girl who does it without with escorts it is more likely but again in Piter even here most do it with. In the Porn industry all the male actors have to have medical tests so there is less of a risk. However at the ned of the day in the porn industry the girls would not get any work if they did covered whereas in the salons they still seem to have plenty of work.
I have to say uncovered sex I have never heard of in salons or with escorts but then again I have never asked for it as the girls will not have medical tests.
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To Jonners
Thanks, Jonners, for the realistic picture. I understand that getting what I want would be difficult, even with your help, since I would only stay in St. Petersburg for a short time and I have no experience in shooting movies.
I am new to this forum and I don't know your movies yet. Where do you post them?
It's good to know that Sasha Rose is still in business. As for Alysa, I noticed that her website in the 21sextury portal has not been updated in months, so maybe she has retired.
Aldo
[QUOTE=Jonners; 1278604]Hi Aldo. Yummy. I will try and answer both your posts in this post.
Aldo. Interesting I have looked at Giorgio Grandi's site in the past and noticed it has not been updated for a long time. However I know that he is still shooting in Piter as the girls tell me that they have shot with him. I do not know where he is posting his movies now. As for meeting, having sex with and shooting a movie with specific actresses yes this may be possible (I will explain later). I would stress that if you want only to meet and have sex without shooting I cannot help you with as this is escorting and not something I have experience of.
It is not possible to guarantee that a particular girl will be in Piter so you could arrange everything to shoot a particular girl and at the last moment you find out she has flown out to shoot for a big studio or has family problems or has retired, so you cannot shoot her and you have to shoot another girl. Therefore it is better not dream of just shooting one girl. The girls only stay in the business a very short time. Of the girls I shot and posted I have found out recently that 2 have since retired! Of the girls you mention Juliana Grandi retired many years ago. I do not know alysa so I assume she is also retired. However Sasha Rose is still shooting I think.
Yummy. The Porn industry and prostitution (both salons and escorts) in Piter are very different. I do not know the reason why in salons it is very hard to find a girl who will do blowjob without condom but the girls do say it is for health reasons. You may be able to find a girl who does it without with escorts it is more likely but again in Piter even here most do it with. In the Porn industry all the male actors have to have medical tests so there is less of a risk. However at the ned of the day in the porn industry the girls would not get any work if they did covered whereas in the salons they still seem to have plenty of work.
I have to say uncovered sex I have never heard of in salons or with escorts but then again I have never asked for it as the girls will not have medical tests.[/QUOTE]
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Salons
Hi all,
This is my first post and first time in Russia. I just want to share my experience that may be useful to new visitors, here it goes.
First of all, you need a cell phone. I only visited salons listed on rusdosug. Com and amurworld. Com and most of the time only the phone number and the metro station are shown. You need to call them and they will tell you the street and building number. When I called, I would say hi and then confirmed that the Metro station is correct. Then, I would ask for the street and building number by saying "Ulitsa (pronounce Oo-lit-sa). Since my Russian is limited, I usually have no idea what street it is when they tell me over the phone. What I do is recording the conversation and listening to it again while trying to find it on Google Maps.
Once you arrive the address, call again and ask for the apartment number within the building. Most of the time, you dial the apartment number and they will buzz you in. But sometimes, you need to dial a different door code and walk into the courtyard, then dial the apartment number to be buzzed in. Note that Russian buildings are huge and some have more than one entrance. The process requires time, patience, and hopefully luck (in the form of English speaker) but sometimes it is worth it.
Now the reports:
Grand Deluxe near Mayaskaya Metro station.
There were 4 girls to choose from on the Friday I visited. I think it was around 7 pm. I chose a 24 yo tall blonde. Slim and flat stomach (my type). Small breasts with pale pink nipples. She didn't speak English but was friendly and pleasant. Covered BJ, multiple positions, no kissing. I didn't ask for any extra. Overall pleasant experience. Cost 3, 000 Rubles for 1 hour.
Royal Deluxe.
If you go to intimspb. Ru, you will see that this is part of same chain as Grand Delxue. This one is a little bit further from Nevsky Prospekt than Grand Delxue. The quality and quantity of girls are about the same as Grand Deluxe but they charge 4, 000 Rubles for 1 hour. I passed.
Premium.
Part of the intimspb. Ru as well. I went there around midnight during a weekday. Cheaper than 2, 500 Rubles but I didn't see anyone I liked.
Perchik near Moskovskaya Metro station.
There were 5 girls around 8 pm on the Wednesday I visited. I chose Masha and she's on the website. The pictures matched. No English but more talkative and playful than the blonde at Grand Deluxe. She looked me in the eyes which was nice. Cost 2, 000 Rubles for 1 hour.
Overall, I like Perchik the best and I tried to go back again a few days later. Not sure why, but the manager was not helpful like the first time. I arrived and dialed the apartment number, and the manager yelled at me in Russian and would not let me in. I thought may be because I didn't call first so the next day I called an hour before going there, but she kept hanging up on me. I went anyway and dialed the apartment number asking in English "Can I come in?" She flatly said no in Russian. This was way more frustrating than when I was on the phone for 10 minutes with the manager walking around the building trying to find this place for the first time. My guess is it was a different manager and she just would not deal with non-Russian. Anyone has any thoughts on this? Should I say certain phrases? I would like to go back again as I like to see other girls on their website.
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[QUOTE=SWorld; 1280616]Hi all,
This is my first post and first time in Russia. I just want to share my experience that may be useful to new visitors, here it goes.
Perchik near Moskovskaya Metro station.
Overall, I like Perchik the best and I tried to go back again a few days later. Not sure why, but the manager was not helpful like the first time. I arrived and dialed the apartment number, and the manager yelled at me in Russian and would not let me in. I thought may be because I didn't call first so the next day I called an hour before going there, but she kept hanging up on me. I went anyway and dialed the apartment number asking in English "Can I come in?" She flatly said no in Russian. This was way more frustrating than when I was on the phone for 10 minutes with the manager walking around the building trying to find this place for the first time. My guess is it was a different manager and she just would not deal with non-Russian. Anyone has any thoughts on this? Should I say certain phrases? I would like to go back again as I like to see other girls on their website.[/QUOTE]Perchik is near Metro: Zvenigorodskaya, or is there another one?
I had the same experiences with salons, if they don't speak English they hang up or don't let you in even you have been there before.
I don't quite understand why they don't want our money?
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[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1280057]Thank you, Hbengkok.
Can you explain FR, please?[/QUOTE]Sorry for late answer. FR is Field Report, or in this case / forum : Fucking Report LOL.
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FRs
[QUOTE=Hbengkok;1281987]Sorry for late answer. FR is Field Report, or in this case / forum : Fucking Report LOL.[/QUOTE]HBK, thanks for the clarification.
For a number of reasons, I haven't reported on those particular experiences here.
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Hi Everyone just back from St. Petersburg. (part1)
Hello Everyone,
Well I am just back from a awesome trip to St. Petersburg. I had a great time. Being from India I had never visited any CIS country and this was my first time to Russia and so had many apprehensions in my mind about the visit and I had done fair amount of research prior to visit about the places that I will visit and some escort services that I will use and all that had paid off in the end.
OK with the report now, I was staying with my friend at Holiday Inn. It is great and totally Green Hotel.
The first night me and my friend were confused about what to do since we had checked in late in the evening we did not have to plan as to what to do, so visited the in house Bar called "XXXX" in the hotel but nothing was working out, there were girls there but none them showing any interest and me and my friend did not have the courage to ask any one of them so we were just sipping our vodkas. After some time we decided to go to the Metro Club hoping to get some action there, just as I was about to leave the bar I saw this long and average looking girl looking at me and just as I made the eye contact she smiled, I immediately knew that things will work out, so I went over to her and I got to know that she speaks English very well and told me the rate of 8000 roubles for 2 hours. This was very high so bargained hard with her and offered here 4000 roubles for 1hour each with me and my friend and she agreed.
Once in the room, as she stripped down I got the shock as the body was not as what it looked from outside and it was a turnoff however having already paid the money I asked her to give me only the massage and then BJ after which I asked her to go to my friend's room.
Second day was better and having finished off all our business meetings in the day, in the evening I thought of making use of my research done prior to the trip and called the Escort Service, where I got the rates ranging from 15000 roubles to 25000 roubles for 4 hours. I selected a girl from there website and agreed for the 15000 roubles for 4 hours at the same time my friend made his selection. So waited in our respective rooms for the girls to arrive.
The Girls arrived on the time and I was surprised to see how beautiful they were, although I have to say that mine one was not as per the photograph but she was still very beautiful and so I did not complained but my friend got the girl as per the picture. The Girl was able to speak fairly good English although not very fluent but we were pretty much able to communicate and understand each other well in very basic English.
Well I am a sort of person who like to spend time with the girl and not go straight in the action I like to spend time enjoy drink and share thoughts. But I had a great night and she left exactly after 4 hours. The quality f the girl was very good and it was very easy to deal with this escort site so we decided to use more of there services in coming days. Next day we had some time in the morning so went for the massage again courtesy to my research and we had the address of the massage place that we wanted to visit its called Alieta and we gave a ring before the visit and the woman on the phone spoke well in English and told us that there will be only the massage and no sex. I told her OK and went there, upon reaching we found that the place has a great decor and the woman at the reception showed us the album to select the girl and the price was quoted as 3500 roubles for 1 hour of body to body massage including body sliding.
Well I think I am out of time for now and will contine with this FR tommorow and I am sure this will be helpful to all those people who would be planning to visit St. Petersburg.
Thanks,
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[QUOTE=Busybee; 1283857]Hello Everyone,
Well I am just back from a awesome trip to St. Petersburg. I had a great time. Being from India I had never visited any CIS country and this was my first time to Russia and so had many apprehensions in my mind about the visit and I had done fair amount of research prior to visit about the places that I will visit and some escort services that I will use and all that had paid off in the end.
OK with the report now, I was staying with my friend at Holiday Inn. It is great and totally Green Hotel.
The first night me and my friend were confused about what to do since we had checked in late in the evening we did not have to plan as to what to do, so visited the in house Bar called "XXXX" in the hotel but nothing was working out, there were girls there but none them showing any interest and me and my friend did not have the courage to ask any one of them so we were just sipping our vodkas. After some time we decided to go to the Metro Club hoping to get some action there, just as I was about to leave the bar I saw this long and average looking girl looking at me and just as I made the eye contact she smiled, I immediately knew that things will work out, so I went over to her and I got to know that she speaks English very well and told me the rate of 8000 roubles for 2 hours. This was very high so bargained hard with her and offered here 4000 roubles for 1hour each with me and my friend and she agreed.
Once in the room, as she stripped down I got the shock as the body was not as what it looked from outside and it was a turnoff however having already paid the money I asked her to give me only the massage and then BJ after which I asked her to go to my friend's room.
Second day was better and having finished off all our business meetings in the day, in the evening I thought of making use of my research done prior to the trip and called the Escort Service, where I got the rates ranging from 15000 roubles to 25000 roubles for 4 hours. I selected a girl from there website and agreed for the 15000 roubles for 4 hours at the same time my friend made his selection. So waited in our respective rooms for the girls to arrive.
The Girls arrived on the time and I was surprised to see how beautiful they were, although I have to say that mine one was not as per the photograph but she was still very beautiful and so I did not complained but my friend got the girl as per the picture. The Girl was able to speak fairly good English although not very fluent but we were pretty much able to communicate and understand each other well in very basic English.
Well I am a sort of person who like to spend time with the girl and not go straight in the action I like to spend time enjoy drink and share thoughts. But I had a great night and she left exactly after 4 hours. The quality f the girl was very good and it was very easy to deal with this escort site so we decided to use more of there services in coming days. Next day we had some time in the morning so went for the massage again courtesy to my research and we had the address of the massage place that we wanted to visit its called Alieta and we gave a ring before the visit and the woman on the phone spoke well in English and told us that there will be only the massage and no sex. I told her OK and went there, upon reaching we found that the place has a great decor and the woman at the reception showed us the album to select the girl and the price was quoted as 3500 roubles for 1 hour of body to body massage including body sliding.
Well I think I am out of time for now and will contine with this FR tommorow and I am sure this will be helpful to all those people who would be planning to visit St. Petersburg.
Thanks, [/QUOTE]Hi Busybee,
Can you tell us the web page of the escort girls and the names?
Because we were in SP 2 months ago and we had very bad experience about escort sites. Thanks.
Naykan
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ST. Petersburg. Part 2
Well now I continue with my FR, also I would advise all the people visiting St. Petersburg in future to book a Hotel Taxi on hourly basis and then once you are with the Taxi, you can negotiate a better deal with him directly for following days, I booked a Taxi for 1000 Rubs for 1 hour and you have to book for minimum of 2 hours but once I was in the Taxi I negotiated the rate of 700 Rubs for 4 hours with the Driver for the following Days.
St. Petersburg is very expensive city compared to Dubai so plan all your expenses otherwise you will out of budget very soon. Our Taxi Driver was great he spoke very good English and had all the knowledge of all the top class places and also knew very good Indian Restaurants, so I took all his contact details for future visits also, anyone if interested please let me know and I will PM his details so that you can also use his services.
Next day went to another Massage Place and this one was called Egoist, reach the building but did not know how to get in so called the massage place and the lady on the phone did not know any English so I told her towait and I got my Taxi Driver to speak with her, after that I reached the correct floor and rang the correct bell of the apartment of course escorted by the Taxi Driver.
The place was really good and after the lady at the reception informed me about the prices she got the girls paraded in front of me to make up the choice. I choose one beautiful looking Kazak mixed Russian Girl.
And what a massage it was with one of the most beautiful girl especially her face I still remember was so beautiful I would highly recommend anyone who wants the massage to visit the EGOIST. I was very satisfied.
More to follow in Part. 3.
Thanks,
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Hey Nille,
I went to the one near Moskovskaya Metro again. There was no problem because the manager who had let me in the first time was there. I chose Alisa based only on look. Her English was good enough for conversation but she was not into chit chat so much. Her performance was great, though and she looked better in person than on the website to me. She told me her schedule for that week and I got to see her one more time before it coincided with the evil manager's schedule. What a cock block.
[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1281011]Perchik is near Metro: Zvenigorodskaya, or is there another one?
I had the same experiences with salons, if they don't speak English they hang up or don't let you in even you have been there before.
I don't quite understand why they don't want our money?[/QUOTE]
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First Vist to St. Pete
thanks to all posters for providing the info to enable us to hook up quickly in st. petersburg. since i speak no russian whatsoever, i used rusdosug. com to find independents near moscovskaya subway stop that spoke some english. mila (911 765 68 34) agreed to come to my hotel for her posted rate of 4000 rubbles / hr with no delivery fee. i realize that's on the high side but i had only a short window of opportunity and she was first to respond. it was surprising that such a pretty girl uses fake photos, but that's her choice. she has a slammin' spinner bod with big fake tits, siliconized lips and a barbie hair-do. her english is minimal but she made it real clear from the start that she was on a mission and wanted to finish it in record time, so there was no chit-chat. very brief bbbj quickly became a ferocious cbj that felt like some kind of defoliation machine. it was such a turn-off i couldn't even think about fucking, but she persisted with plan a. eventually, after a few rounds of daty to restore sensation in my unit, i was able to finish the deed. adios mila, and godspeed. looks: 8. 5; service: 4. 0. i'm not even a gfe type of guy, but this session was way too impersonal for my taste. when i mentioned that i wasn't into such a mechanical approach, she said,"i'm not your wife." my only hope to the rest of you who encounter mila is that ymmv, to the upside.
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Other places to stay in Peter
Dear members,
I wanted to ask whether somebody knows any other neighborhood in S. Petersburg that is nice to rent an apt. Or a hotel room except the center?
What I mean:
It must be safe,
Girls who work there (at shops, cafe, restaurants) are not spoiled by massive groups of tourist men, so no-tourists around!
Autonomous: one can hang out during the day and the night without having to go in the center (maybe with a big shopping mall) ,
With a no-technical university in the vicinities.
And connected with metro preferably.
My experience is that in those areas (I like free hunting) girls are easier to approach: tried it out in Kiev once and worked good for me.
Thanks
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My 2 cents: Piter isn't Kiev. Piter is bigger, much bigger, with many more tourists each year, many more regions, and not at all the same mood or dynamic as Kiev, which is provincial in comparison. Piter also has a lot more money and many people there are middle class Russians and higher (which isn't to say, once you leave the center, that you won't find abject poverty). Most young people hang out in the center, which is where most of the newer big malls and cinemas are as well as some of the popular clubs. In other words, many / most young Russians in stpb have experience with foreigners. To find an "out of the way" apartment you can contact one of the agencies that advertises for foreign tourists (that have English sites) and ask if they have apartments not in the center. If you know any Russian or have a Russian friend, you can look on the Russian sites and probably have more success. If your dark skinned, don't stay in out of the way apartments, stay in the center. Stpb has a small population of skin heads and if it's football season it also has a good sized population of rowdy and sometimes xenophobic fans roving the streets before and after games. If you do find an apartment that's out of the way, then check it on a map and see where the nearest metro is, university is, etc. You also have to watch the bridge schedules, as late at night / early morning the bridges all open up for the ship traffic and you can find yourself stranded if you have gone to the center and then think to go home. Also, the stpb metro closes around 12:30 I think as do the buses, trams, and Marchutkas (little mini busses). Late at night the only options are walking, taxis, and holding out your hand and negotiating with a driver for a ride (very common in Russia). In the center it's not a problem to walk, but if your in an out of the way place and trying to get back to your apartment late at night, you can have problems. One bit of good news. If you can find an apartment in an out of the way region, it will be MUCH cheaper than an apartment in the center. It will also, however, probably be a Russian apartment in every sense of the word, possibly even including having to deposit the toilet paper in a nearby trash can, as the plumbing may not be able to handle toilet paper. Ick. I recently stayed in an studio a friend has on one of the Islands and let me say it was a pain in the ass after a few days. I had to walk 20 minutes to the nearest metro. The building was invested with cats (literally, they lived in the walls). There was no stove so I bought a microwave so as to be able to occasionally eat something in the studio and there was no washing machine. But fortunately a girl I was seeing took my dirty clothes home and washed them for me. I had to wash dishes in the shower (the bathroom sink was the size of a Hershey bar). So if you do find an out of the way apartment, make sure you ask a lot of questions, to avoid unpleasant surprises.
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Thanks Skwiskwis for the very useful information. Well I am not dark skinned and I do speak some Russian. OK I will check it out.
Cheers
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Porn in Piter
The Piter board seem to have been a bit quiet recently so I thought I would post my report on my last trip to Piter to shoot more adult movies. If you look at my previous posts as you can see I am a bit addicted to it now. However instead of doing 5 reports which is very time consuming I will try and condense everything into this report.
This time I was shooting different types of scenes than I shot last time so hopefully you will find it interesting and I hope you will like the photos posted. I was staying in an apartment in Old Nevsky so pretty close to the centre of Piter. I went and got my med tests done in Piter which meant that I could not shoot for the first couple f days while I was waiting for them to come back. However it was a lot cheaper than getting them done in Western Europe.
Day 1. The first scene I shot was a lesbi scene. This is the first time I have shot one but I have to say I really enjoyed shooting it. The girls complemented each other perfectly one blonde smallish boobs (Lindsey) one brunette large boobs (Lindie). Both I thought were very pretty. I wanted to shoot in a few different locations than I had shot in before so we hired a sauna together with a pool which gave an amazing backdrop. The photos I think speak for themselves but this is my favourite scene. Its interesting finding an end-point is more difficut in a lesbi scene without the cumshot.
Day 2. This time I shot a boy girl POV scene with Lindsey after she performed a sexy striptease. Most people think that POV scenes are shot without cameramen but often it is shot using a cameraman as you get a much better scene. In this scene I used a cameraman. The cameraman also helped with direction so when Lindsey finished her striptease he told me to fondle her breasts which I did without hesitation and then after she gave me a long blowjob he gave directions as to which positions we should do ). The scene took about 40 minutes to shoot and I really enjoyed giving her a facial at the end.
Day 3. This was another shoot where I wanted to do something different- I wanted to shoot outdoors. So the girl another petite blonde (Yani / Amber Dahkiri) and the guy for the scene (Nikitda) met us at one of the parks in Piter. We took some boyfriend. Girlfriend type photos when we then walked for 20 minutes around the park to find somewhere quiet so Yani could give Nikitda a blowjob in the park. However as it was in the centre of Piter the park was packed with people. Eventually we found somewhere quite quiet but they were a number of interested people who came over to see what we were doing behind the tree. My job was to shoo them away. Eventually we finished this part of the scene to find two guards infront of the building behind the park had been enjoying a free show!
Day 4. Today I shot a gangbang in the apartment. Another scene that I had not shot before. I organised 5 guys (I had no real appetite for joining in with 5 guys) so I directed the scene. The girl was a tall brunette called Nataly Gold. She stated off dressed in a schoolgirls outfit but this was soon taken off. Through the scene she gave all the guys a blowjob, squirted and took 5 sets of cumshots; in her face, on her body and in her pussy. It was another enjoyable scene.
A few people have asked me where the films are posted. I am not sure what the rules are in respect of posting web addresses but I will try. It is w w w. Are you s s I a and s e x s l you t s. Com (look up russiansexsluts on google)
Also I have helped a couple of people shot their own films so if you would like to please pm me.
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10 photos
Photos for scenes 1 and 2
Photos for scenes 1 and 2
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Scenes 3 and 4
Photos for scenes 3 and 4.
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Thanks for sharing
[QUOTE=Jonners; 1314624]The Piter board seem to have been a bit quiet recently so I thought I would post my report on my last trip to Piter to shoot more adult movies. If you look at my previous posts as you can see I am a bit addicted to it now. However instead of doing 5 reports which is very time consuming I will try and condense everything into this report.
A few people have asked me where the films are posted. I am not sure what the rules are in respect of posting web addresses but I will try. It is w w w. Are you s s I a and s e x s l you t s. Com (look up russiansexsluts on google)
Also I have helped a couple of people shot their own films so if you would like to please pm me.[/QUOTE]Hey Jonners, thanks for the great report and photos!
You certainly have found a fun hobby!
And it is interesting to see your work up on russianslxts, is that a necessary part of the deal, that they get to sell what you shoot?
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Hi GT.
Thats a very good question. No the website that put the videos up and the agency that I use to source the models are totally separate and unrelated. The videos that I shoot are mine and they would remain totally private if I so wished. However after I shot there a couple of years ago I thought it would be interesting to see if anyone was interested in hosting the videos and I contacted a European website owner who set up the website that you see. I am sure if anyone does want to shoot and post their videos he would be interested in buying them for the site though.
As you can see I have now moved on from just shooting my own videos to shooting scenes featuring other actors. I find that now I am enjoying the artistic side of filming as much as the sex) especially as in my everyday job I don't get this. By this I mean figuring out where the scene should be shot, what the actors should be wearing, the positions they should do (which I can assure you is always far more than I can do on film).
I do have to say I really enjoy this hooby!
[QUOTE=Gentleman Travel; 1314974]Hey Jonners, thanks for the great report and photos!
You certainly have found a fun hobby!
And it is interesting to see your work up on russianslxts, is that a necessary part of the deal, that they get to sell what you shoot?[/QUOTE]
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Spbgirls. Org
Has anyone used this site: stpbgirls. Org?
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Bar Rose, Ligovsky prospect?
Anyone ever hear of this place? I think it's some sort of a strip / nude club. Has anyone ever been there? If so, please let me know what this place is. Thanks!
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Anyone met her?
I'm visiting St. Petersburg next week and find a website of Irina Bruni. She is a Russian pornstar. Is this real or scam? Any feedback?
[url]http://maxofescort.escort-site.com/[/url]
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Irina Bruni / Staying in St Petersburg
The Russian porn actress known as "Erica Bruni" (she uses a bunch of other names, most of her Russian porn is under the name "Meggy". She's made a bunch of movies, both in Russia and, recently, in Bucharest) does indeed escort in St Pb and Moscow. The link, however, does not seem to be working properly. When I checked it there were no photos of her (and she recently had a boob job) , but it did have a list of her prices and services. In the day, I met with her a few times, in St Pb, but as the years went by her prices went up dramatically and the cost had a negative effect on my libido. She recently made the pilgrimage to Bucharest, where she was passed around by Woodman, Rocco, et al, and I guess that's why her escort prices on the website are outrageous (IMO). The list of her services on the website are consistent with my experiences with her. I. E. Should would do most anything (deep throat, anal, etc). She also used to be on Mamba, but her profile was deleted. Maybe she made a new one? Might want to search for her on Mamba, as the in house, Russian, prices may be different.
On another note, for anyone visiting St Petersburg and looking for places to stay, check out: [url]https://www.airbnb.com/[/url] It's a site for travelers looking to find rooms or apartments or homes to stay in, with listings from the owners. I've recently had a good experience with an apartment on Vas Island from this site. If you enter Saint Petersburg, Russia, and the dates of your stay, you will get a list of hits (which you can narrow). I have only used the English language version. It also lists hostels, if that's your taste. The apartments and rooms and hostels are spread out around the city and the owners I've exchanged messages with have all written in competent English (and many have offered to help me find my way around the city). I saw only one owner offering "VIP Escort" services, and I didn't ask him what he meant by that as his apartments were in the 100$ + category and not what I was looking for. You can find rooms and hostels for as low as 15$ and apartments as low as 47$, but the prices vary according to the season (White Nights and the New Year are the most expensive times, summer is also expensive) and the site charges a finders fee. Oh, and if you do find an apartment, make sure to check out where it is on a map and look to see if you have to cross any bridges to get to it or how close the metro station is (particularly in winter). The bridges over the Neva open for ship traffic in the early mornings, and stay open for over an hour, and if you have been out sampling the night life you may find yourself trapped by the open bridges.
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Saint Petersburg mid Nov
Hi Pals,
I'm coming to SP mid November and of course I'd like to be with a beauty escort, I found this website [url]http://www.spbnimfetki.org/[/url], but looks so good for those prices, of course it cautioned me to good to be true, so if someone knows about it let me know I'd appreciatte all the help.
Cheers
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Experience with Escort agency MissBliss?
Does anyone have experience with Escort agency MissBliss in Saint Petersburg (with URL.
[url]http://www.lux-escort.com/[/url]
)? It seems to have a very strange business. Apparently the first time you make an appointment you describe yourself and you describe the woman you want. The agency then chooses the woman for you. Only after your first appointment will you be given the password to see the pictures of the other women. The English on the web site is very bad, making it difficult to determine if my understanding is correct. So for your first appointment, you have no idea who will show up.
Anyway has anyone used this agency?
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Howto. For dummies
Jonners. How do you get the lesbians? Where do you find them? I am in Kiev. And need a strategy!
[QUOTE=Jonners;1258219]On Thursday I shot my fourth scene. This scene was my second boy girl girl scene of the week and I would be acting in it again myself. The grls were Bolly who was the taller, black-haired, blue-eyed girl and Angela who was the slightly shorter brown-haired, brown-eyed girl. Once both of the girls arrived (Angela was running late) they both took showers and got ready for the scene, I had brought a couple of schoolgirl costumes that I asked them to wear. It seems to me almost every second porn scene has girls wearing these costumes but it did look sexy on them both. .[/QUOTE]
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Lesbians
Its not easy but luckily there is a new app on my iphone that detects lesbians when you are within a range of 100 metres. Once I have found a couple of good looking lesbians, which can take anything up to a week of intensive detection, I talk with them in Russian and find out as much as I can. Once I find where they normally hangout I go there the next day wearing a beautiful blonde wig and very shirt black skirt. I have found no lesbian can resist this combination and soon they are back in my flat expecting a lesbo threesome. By the time they realise I pack meat and two veg it is too late and they go with the flow. After a good session we are all happy. Many of the girls have told me that I was responsible for coverting them to liking men again and stopping them being lesbians.
I am afraid Kiev is the wrong place to be. I have spent quite some time in Kiev this year and can assure you there are no lesbians left. In Piter there are only one or two attractive lesbian girls I haven't had my filthy hands on. I would suggest Moscow as good lesbian hunting ground I have not been there for 5 years and I hear the supplies of lesbians are fully replenished.
[QUOTE=DoctorOral;1356371]Jonners. How do you get the lesbians? Where do you find them? I am in Kiev. And need a strategy![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SpanishMan; 1356072]Does anyone have experience with Escort agency MissBliss in Saint Petersburg (with URL.
[url]http://www.lux-escort.com/[/url]
)? It seems to have a very strange business. Apparently the first time you make an appointment you describe yourself and you describe the woman you want. The agency then chooses the woman for you. Only after your first appointment will you be given the password to see the pictures of the other women. The English on the web site is very bad, making it difficult to determine if my understanding is correct. So for your first appointment, you have no idea who will show up.
Anyway has anyone used this agency?[/QUOTE]Hi SpanishMan.
I saw that site too, I think they try to be more elite by helping you select your dream girl, you can always email them for and ask for the login. I'm planning my trip to russia right now so, never tried. Would be interested to know are they real or fake.
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MissBliss
[QUOTE=SpanishMan; 1356072]Does anyone have experience with Escort agency MissBliss in Saint Petersburg (with URL.
[url]http://www.lux-escort.com/[/url]
)? It seems to have a very strange business. Apparently the first time you make an appointment you describe yourself and you describe the woman you want. The agency then chooses the woman for you. Only after your first appointment will you be given the password to see the pictures of the other women. The English on the web site is very bad, making it difficult to determine if my understanding is correct. So for your first appointment, you have no idea who will show up.
Anyway has anyone used this agency?[/QUOTE]I used the servece 3 weeks ago. Of course, it was stupid to try to describe what kind of girl you like. However, they send me a beautiful girl to the hotel at 2am. We had a great moment but the price is high. I'm not sure if I use MissBliss again but it is trustworthy.
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Sweet Candy Escort
Sweet Candy Escort offers reliable service in SPb. You can send a SMS or call and the lady there is speaking English. They provide girls to hotels in the city centre.
The price is about 6000 roubles a hour. It is little bit expensive but sevice is easy-to-use and they have always answered me quickly. I recommend it for busy business men who don't have time to call to rare "independent" escorts who speak English.
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[QUOTE=Mattitinen; 1360217]Sweet Candy Escort offers reliable service in SPb. You can send a SMS or call and the lady there is speaking English. They provide girls to hotels in the city centre.
The price is about 6000 roubles a hour. It is little bit expensive but sevice is easy-to-use and they have always answered me quickly. I recommend it for busy business men who don't have time to call to rare "independent" escorts who speak English.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Mattitinen, do you know what their web site is?
On another topic, wonder is anyone knows any thing about petersburgescort. Com,
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[QUOTE=Port90;1360860]Thanks for the info Mattitinen, do you know what their web site is?[/QUOTE]Sorry! I forget the link. Here [url]http://vipcandyladys.com/[/url]
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Mamba & Date Ru
i'm in stpb and will make a short report on two of the popular "dating" sites (english versions). mamba is becoming extremely problematic, as previously mentioned by others they changed the search engine and it's impossible to search exclusively for girls interested in "money." i'm close to giving up on mamba. mamba is also aggressively banning users. i've been in the middle of negotiations with girls only to see their profiles banned, for what i have no idea (maybe giving out phone numbers, asking for my phone number, whatever. mamba has a host of rules that can get you banned). oddly, the sister site, date. ru is still productive. even though it's a mirror of mamba and has the same search engine and even most of the same users. maybe it's just dumb luck, because unless you narrow your age search to only a few years you will get 40+ pages of hits (online) and double that if you include offline users. also a warning. the russian police are on both sites and are posting profiles of girls 18 & 19 and then in messages disclosing their ages as 13/14. recent political initiatives have prompted police to ramp up efforts to catch guys soliciting **** girls.
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1365562]I'm in StPb and will make a short report on two of the popular "dating" sites (English versions). Mamba is becoming extremely problematic, as previously mentioned by others they changed the search engine and it's impossible to search exclusively for girls interested in "money." I'm close to giving up on Mamba. Mamba is also aggressively banning users. I've been in the middle of negotiations with girls only to see their profiles banned, for what I have no idea (maybe giving out phone numbers, asking for my phone number, whatever. Mamba has a host of rules that can get you banned). Oddly, the sister site, Date. Ru is still productive. Even though it's a mirror of Mamba and has the same search engine and even most of the same users. Maybe it's just dumb luck, because unless you narrow your age search to only a few years you will get 40+ pages of hits (online) and double that if you include offline users.[/QUOTE]As far as I know Date. Ru is the same site as mamba with different banners. Girls are same in both sites.
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Mamba & Date Ru
If you make a profile on Mamba or Date you automatically have a profile on the sister site. That being said, there are girls who make their profiles on Mamba and never check or use the Date site and girls who make their profiles on Date and don't check or use Mamba. Sending mail to a profile one site does not send it to both sites. Plus, you can make a different profile on each site, with different profile pics, which has an advantage, since it's possible to have pics that promote you in different ways.
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1366412]Sending mail to a profile one site does not send it to both sites.[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I have same emails sent me in both sites.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1367248]Friends. Does anybody have any experience with this website? Rusprostitute. Com.[/QUOTE]Last time when I was in SPb I tried. It is like other sites. Many girls are not independent but who cares.
A girl I found from the site was ok but she don't have a profile anymore even if it was only three weeks ago. Anyway, you can use if you are lucky with this site.
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High turnover.
[QUOTE=Mattitinen; 1367706]Last time when I was in SPb I tried. It is like other sites. Many girls are not independent but who cares.
A girl I found from the site was ok but she don't have a profile anymore even if it was only three weeks ago. Anyway, you can use if you are lucky with this site.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info Mattitinen. These websites have me worried sometimes with the bait-and-switch. Can you suggest another site or a good brothel?
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Mamba & Date Ru
Disregard what I wrote about the differences between Mamba and DateRu. After I read Mattitinen's post I realized I have different logins and so I don't know if mail sent to one automatically goes to the other.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1372598]I really need a good hotel in Petersburg. I would like one that is central, not astronomically expensive, has a good selection of girls in the lobby but ideally also lets one bring in one's own. Any ideas?
Cucumber[/QUOTE]You have two opposite ideas. First you like a lot of gils in the lobby but also come in with your own girl. A problem is that if there is many girls in a lobby, security guys are also participating in the business. They don't let you destroy their business and you have to pay them if you are coming with a girl.
Sovjet style hotels like Moscow and Oktiabrskaya, for example, have girls in the lobby. Most western chain hotels don't but you can go there with a girl without any extra payment.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1367750]Thank you for the info Mattitinen. These websites have me worried sometimes with the bait-and-switch. Can you suggest another site or a good brothel?[/QUOTE]Sorry for delayed answer. If you are speaking only English you should use Rusdosug. Com. However, some girls are with own photos, some not.
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Petersburg hotels
[QUOTE=Mattitinen; 1374533]You have two opposite ideas. First you like a lot of gils in the lobby but also come in with your own girl. A problem is that if there is many girls in a lobby, security guys are also participating in the business. They don't let you destroy their business and you have to pay them if you are coming with a girl.
Sovjet style hotels like Moscow and Oktiabrskaya, for example, have girls in the lobby. Most western chain hotels don't but you can go there with a girl without any extra payment.[/QUOTE]I see your point Mattitinen. So let me choose and say I just want a hotel with as many girls in the lobby as possible. I find that in many hotels there are girls, but often there are only a few of them, the same ones every night, not very young or good-looking and the prices are much higher than on the open market (Hotel Moscow is one example of this in Petersburg). What's the best option if I want to have a chance of a reasonably big selection at least with some variety? Or alternatively not such a big selection, but very high standards? I appreciate your feedback. For most of us, hotels are ultimately the most important aspect of such trips, and there is so little info about them.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber;1374670]I see your point Mattitinen. So let me choose and say I just want a hotel with as many girls in the lobby as possible. I find that in many hotels there are girls, but often there are only a few of them, the same ones every night, not very young or good-looking and the prices are much higher than on the open market (Hotel Moscow is one example of this in Petersburg). What's the best option if I want to have a chance of a reasonably big selection at least with some variety? Or alternatively not such a big selection, but very high standards? I appreciate your feedback. For most of us, hotels are ultimately the most important aspect of such trips, and there is so little info about them.[/QUOTE]I think that the hotel girls aren't the best option if you are looking a young and good looking girl. For a girl a hotel is not as profitable working place as brothel even if customers are paying more. For example, most girls in hotel Oktiabrskaya are maybe pretty but not young and price is high.
I recommend that go a brothel or ask a girl to come your hotel. For example, the price of this girls was 5000 rubles for 2 hour but unfortunately she is not working now: [url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi112859.htm[/url]
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Rusdosug
I'm trying to work out how reliable the Rusdosug site is! A simple search of English speaking independant escorts in say St P generates 33 pages of profiles. Trim that to those verified by the Administrator and it shrinks to an awful lot less! Does this mean that most profiles on the site are likely to be Bait and Switch?
Also, there are the occasional supermodel profiles in St P but they all seem to share either $339 or $399 prices. Many of them seem to be located in the same kind of area. Around Mayakovskaya Metro. Coincidence? Should I take these seriously?
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[QUOTE=SilverFoz; 1375664]I'm trying to work out how reliable the Rusdosug site is! A simple search of English speaking independant escorts in say St P generates 33 pages of profiles. Trim that to those verified by the Administrator and it shrinks to an awful lot less! Does this mean that most profiles on the site are likely to be Bait and Switch?
Also, there are the occasional supermodel profiles in St P but they all seem to share either $339 or $399 prices. Many of them seem to be located in the same kind of area. Around Mayakovskaya Metro. Coincidence? Should I take these seriously?[/QUOTE]There are many fakes but many times the girl in a picture has walked in my hotel room. Business is similar everywhere.
Never look USD prices but change the language to Russian. It is also reasonable to look Russian comments. Use google translator.
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MissBliss Agency
Does the man who runs the MissBliss Agency ever answer his emails? He has a very strange way of operating where HE chooses the girl for you after asking you all sorts of information. I wrote him twice and finally said:
I have written you twice to make an appointment between January 25 and January 27. I have not heard from you. Are you going to reply? What do I need to do?
He replied:
Excuse me for long time answer.
We have that girls. And I will send nice one to your hotel.
But I wrote him again yesterday to no reply. I just sent him another specific request for time, day, and location. Will he answer? Does he work principally by telephone?
Spanish Man
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[QUOTE=SpanishMan;1377633]Does the man who runs the MissBliss Agency ever answer his emails? He has a very strange way of operating where HE chooses the girl for you after asking you all sorts of information.[/QUOTE]I have used twice and without any trouble but I sent sms. Girls are little bit overpriced and most of them are working also in other ways. However, in MissBliss they know which hotels are girlfriendly so that a girl can come direct to a room even at 2am as in my case.
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Escort website
Hi guys,
Ever checked the website.
[url]www.rusprostitute.com[/url]
Just for St. Petersburg there are almost 1. 000 girls, probably Photoshop did some work but the quality looks very promissing. Anybody used that site? Prices are much lower then other sites.
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Visiting Moscow and SPB first time
Hi fella,
I'm also Visiting SPB around mid March, So I would also like to know more about this place same as you do.
I'm also going to Moscow so I would like to know about this place also, Can you share some of your experience please.
And I would request other fellas to give some suggestion for a student visiting there with some limited Budget.
Will be thankful for some nice suggestions.
[QUOTE=Tsxor; 1382058]Hi All!
I was hoping I could get some advice from the the St Petes vets on this board. I'll be making my first trip to St Petes in early March, and was wondering what the best bars / restaurants and clubs were for a chance of picking up "normal" girls and semi-pros? I've had decent luck doing this in Moscow, and was hoping it could be repeated in St Petes.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice![/QUOTE]
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Piter.the basics
hi! i'm going to st. petersburg and nede some basic tips. answers from seasoned mongers greatly appreciated!
am scared shitless of mafia and police encounters. is this really a problem?
am also scared of losing out on the great possibilities. i have seen the girls on putana. ru, rusdosug, and some are stunning. i really want to meet one of these beauties while i for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] have the chance.
what do you do to find the best girls in the safest locations? can you bring streetwalkers to your hotel? are there any good escort agencies, and will she be let into the room hassle free?
hope that someone can answered one or more questions.
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Partial Answer
am scared shitless of mafia and police encounters. is this really a problem?
st petersburg (or piter as almost all russians call it) is hassle free for foreigners (europeans / americans) as far as the police go. as far as you wallet goes. well, that's a different story. it aint a budget city. if you are from the caucuses or africa, well, that's a different situation. expect to have your documents checked frequently. europeans and americans are left alone these days (word came down thru the food chain a few years ago to stop hassling and shaking down the tourists). as far as the mafia goes, well, where exactly do you intend to do your sightseeing? if you stick to the main areas, nevsky, neva tourist areas, major sights, your biggest problem will be the hordes of tourists (and sometimes big groups from china) , not the mafia. under no circumstances is it a good idea to wander the back streets drunk late at night or early in the morning and if your in stpb during a football match, avoid the rowdy, drunk fans before and especially after the game.
not sure when you are going but do check out peterhoff. it opens at the beginning of summer. pushkin is also nearby and worth a visit.
am also scared of losing out on the great possibilities. i have seen the girls on putana. ru, rusdosug, and some are stunning. i really want to meet one of these beauties while i for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] have the chance.
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what do you do to find the best girls in the safest locations? can you bring streetwalkers to your hotel? are there any good escort agencies, and will she be let into the room hassle free?
i don't stay in hotels anymore. i rent apartments, so this is not an issue for me. other posters have addressed this and you can search the forum and find advice on which hotels are "girl friendly." almost all the girls you find on rusdoug, etc use fake photos and / or are agencies, though you will also find here on the forum advice about the websites. a general rule on the webistes is: the more "stunning" the pics are, the more likely they are fake. hotels are european priced (at least the ones most european and americans find). taxis are also european priced. bye and large a first time visitor is shocked to find how expensive stpb is. there are a number of escort agencies in stpb that have english websites. and they too are european priced. to find the russian prices you will need to search the web in russian. you can also search and find many posts here about clubs and saunas and salons, though the salons and their lineups appear and disappear daily.
finally, if your alone, arrange a pick up at the airport. the taxi mafia is in force at pulkovo. there is a taxi stand in the airport where you can book a taxi at a better price, but it's still a lot more expensive than what you could arrange if you can call a normal taxi and have it pick you up (rough cost for a normal taxi is 700 rubles, more or less; taxi mafia will shake you down for 3000 rubles). there are also regular buses and small vans that go back and forth from pulkovo to different metro stops (#13 or any bus or fan with 13 in it goes to pulkovo 2). the bus costs about 35 rubles. small van is 50 or such.
finally, on your trip to stpb from the airport due take note of the businesses you pass by. look to your right. and count the mercedes, jaguar, bmw dealerships. get the picture? (this will prepare you for the shops on nevski.)
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So sorry, everybody!
referring to my own post. ipad spellchecked and autocorrected my "once" into "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url]". jesus christ! i meant to say that i'd like to meet a beautiful like the ones from the ads "for once" as opposed to the oh so ordinary girls i've settled for before.
very fucked up. sorry.
[quote=gunnar2000; 1402568]hi! i'm going to st. petersburg and nede some basic tips. answers from seasoned mongers greatly appreciated!
am scared shitless of mafia and police encounters. is this really a problem?
am also scared of losing out on the great possibilities. i have seen the girls on putana. ru, rusdosug, and some are stunning. i really want to meet one of these beauties while i for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] have the chance.
what do you do to find the best girls in the safest locations? can you bring streetwalkers to your hotel? are there any good escort agencies, and will she be let into the room hassle free?
hope that someone can answered one or more questions.[/quote]
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[quote=skwiskwis; 1403021]am scared shitless of mafia and police encounters. is this really a problem?
st petersburg (or piter as almost all russians call it) is hassle free for foreigners (europeans / americans) as far as the police go. as far as you wallet goes. well, that's a different story. it aint a budget city. if you are from the caucuses or africa, well, that's a different situation. expect to have your documents checked frequently. europeans and americans are left alone these days (word came down thru the food chain a few years ago to stop hassling and shaking down the tourists). as far as the mafia goes, well, where exactly do you intend to do your sightseeing? if you stick to the main areas, nevsky, neva tourist areas, major sights, your biggest problem will be the hordes of tourists (and sometimes big groups from china) , not the mafia. under no circumstances is it a good idea to wander the back streets drunk late at night or early in the morning and if your in stpb during a football match, avoid the rowdy, drunk fans before and especially after the game.
not sure when you are going but do check out peterhoff. it opens at the beginning of summer. pushkin is also nearby and worth a visit.
am also scared of losing out on the great possibilities. i have seen the girls on putana. ru, rusdosug, and some are stunning. i really want to meet one of these beauties while i for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url] have the chance.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url]!
what do you do to find the best girls in the safest locations? can you bring streetwalkers to your hotel? are there any good escort agencies, and will she be let into the room hassle free?
i don't stay in hotels anymore. i rent apartments, so this is not an issue for me. other posters have addressed this and you can search the forum and find advice on which hotels are "girl friendly." almost all the girls you find on rusdoug, etc use fake photos and / or are agencies, though you will also find here on the forum advice about the websites. a general rule on the webistes is: the more "stunning" the pics are, the more likely they are fake. hotels are european priced (at least the ones most european and americans find). taxis are also european priced. bye and large a first time visitor is shocked to find how expensive stpb is. there are a number of escort agencies in stpb that have english websites. and they too are european priced. to find the russian prices you will need to search the web in russian. you can also search and find many posts here about clubs and saunas and salons, though the salons and their lineups appear and disappear daily.
finally, if your alone, arrange a pick up at the airport. the taxi mafia is in force at pulkovo. there is a taxi stand in the airport where you can book a taxi at a better price, but it's still a lot more expensive than what you could arrange if you can call a normal taxi and have it pick you up (rough cost for a normal taxi is 700 rubles, more or less; taxi mafia will shake you down for 3000 rubles). there are also regular buses and small vans that go back and forth from pulkovo to different metro stops (#13 or any bus or fan with 13 in it goes to pulkovo 2). the bus costs about 35 rubles. small van is 50 or such.
finally, on your trip to stpb from the airport due take note of the businesses you pass by. look to your right. and count the mercedes, jaguar, bmw dealerships. get the picture? (this will prepare you for the shops on nevski.) [/quote]thanks for answer in spite of fucked up mistake.
referring to my own post. ipad spellchecked and autocorrected my "once" into "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url]". jesus christ! i meant to say that i'd like to meet a beautiful girl like the ones from the ads "for once" as opposed to the oh so ordinary girls i've settled for before.
very fucked up. sorry.
will cab drivers be of any help in finding good salons or apartments w independents?
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Skwiskwis and others
piter again.
i look at a blonde miracle like this: [url]http://putana.ru/anket/28520[/url]#
price quoted as 1600 roubles, something like 50 euro. give or take. and the blonde asia is just one of many incredibly beautiful women on this site, and there are more sites like putana. ru and i have no idea which ones are credible.
i've read back on the reports. some claim it's real, some not. if half of this is true, it would still make piter cheap and full of options. and also w options to fail.
what are your thoughts on this?
and: why don't i just habil a cab and ask him to drive me to a nice place? my russian is not very good, and i sure as hell am not going home with phone full of hooker's numbers. and they sure as hell won't have mine. with a phone no, it will take them 5 minutes to find out who just buttfucked two teens and came on their toes, where he works, where he lives and who he lives with. choosing fb, they can even inform my other family and friends.
i am also aware of the flagrant racism, sexism, stupid mentalities and other isms the russians cherish and nurture. often encouraged by their leaders. no doubt this is part of the reason the country is so fucked up and will remain fucked up. they don't very much believe in free print or speech either. i am a white western man. that is almost always an advantage, sadly enough.
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Petersburg. Importance of knowing Russian
Hey guys.
Itz a beautiful city with a lot of beautiful girls. The sites rusdosug, rusprostitute, dosug, and many others list mind boggling picturs of girls at unbelievable prices.
Came in with high expectations but in reality on the day 1 I spent calling up nearly 15-20 girls. All of them turned down the outcall into my hotel room as they don't speak english.
And if you want girls who speak english then they are as costly as they are in europe. Will keep trying.
Guys any idea or contacts of girls speaking english.
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Phones. You can buy a SIM card in StPb and use it for your mongering. They are inexpensive. I use Megafon, but I don't recommend it. Friends use MTS and there are a few others as well. I believe you can even pick them up at the airport. If your waiting around for a ride or such look for kiosks. You can put money on it at machines located practically every few feet on the major streets, but I don't recommend this either (some of those machines are real rip offs and charge sometimes 50% surcharges). If you find an actual Megafon or MTS, etc, shop, the machine in it will not have a surcharge. As you can see, one of my major concerns is money. So I always try and find the best priced options in all areas when I travel to stpb.
And money. Make sure your cash is free of writing and isn't too old. Russian banks and exchanges will not take "damaged" money and if you meet a girl and she is "experienced" she will not take it either, because she knows she can't exchange it. The last time I was in Piter a girl I know there begged me to give her rubles for $400 an American guy gave her in Moscow, because she couldn't exchange it anywhere. When I saw the money, it looked okay to me, just a little wrinkled and worn, and I had no trouble depositing it in my bank when I got home. This is with American dollars. Not sure if the same issue exists with Euros.
The taxi situation very much depends on your Russian and money. If you can speak a little Russian you have a lot of options. You can flag down an opportunistic Russian and negotiate a price (what most Russians in Piter do, but they usually do it in groups of 2 or more) , call a taxi service and arrange for a taxi (best option for commercial taxis) and flag down a taxi on the street (most expensive. European priced). I think you are also ahead of the game if you speak a little Russian and want to use the salons or websites. There are a lot of websites in Russian and they cater to Russians and have Russian prices. Also, many of the posters here have noted that you can have problems if you find a salon but don't speak any Russian.
I'm aware of the stereotype that taxi drivers are sources of info on girls / salons, but I've never asked a taxi driver for this help when I've been in StPb.
I've written to a bunch of girls on sites like Mamba when I've been visiting StPb and just had to be patient. Most of the model-like profiles are fake. There are a bunch of salons that post fake photos or photos of girls who won't be available. But you can also find "gems" that are pretty and reasonably priced. I have a girl that I meet regularly in stpb and so don't have a big motivation to find others, but in March I did meet with a tall redhead from Mamba. She initially agreed to a number of meetings, but wanted a white Iphone5 as a "gift" for them. And she wanted the gift at the first meeting. Well, I wouldn't agree to this and thought the matter ended, but she continued to send me SMS and finally agreed that I would "help" her with money each meeting and then she could buy her own Iphone. With that settled I actually thought we would meet, but we scheduled a meeting 4 times and each time she cancelled for one reason or another. Anyway, we finally did meet and I must say she was only slightly less attractive than her photos. So I went from thinking the girl was just one more scam to meeting her. For me, the sites really depend a lot on luck. And bye the way, I don't plan on meeting her again, even though she was tall and pretty. Call it incompatible personalities.
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Skwiskwis thanks again!
Thanks for great advance, Skwiskwis! Will buy cheap phone when home, put in local simcard, when there and avoid any funky callbacks, stray smses left on phone. Also it can be stolen no worries. Never heard about the damaged money. Thanks for that too.
I have tried Mamba myself. In Smolensk, years ago, I met two from there. Both pretty, but nothing like on photos. Most got tired of me when chatting, because I insist on having all points of importance covered before meeting. I will not have a discussion about price and service at place when ready to go. Not on Mamba for years, because of need to give up phone no.
I speak Russian. Not so good. But definately prefer english.
In Smolensk I also succeeded w asking taxi drivers about "devushki"? They drove to various parking lots where mamochkas, mothers, waited w girls. Picked one, and took same taxi to sauna of girls' choise. There I paid them for the room. On the way, we had bought drinks and cigarettes at some store. No problem bringing all this in.
When finished, sauna called for taxi back to my hotel. I never really knew where I had been. But the system was fantastic! Pick out your girl, find a place, drink and have sex, after the girl went her own way, and I went back to Hotel. Felt completely safe. Each session would cost 4000-6000, taxi, sauna, drinks and girl for one hour. Clock started ticking when arrived at sauna.
Do you have any webadresses or any concrete info for stpb?
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StPb General
My completely unscientific opinion is Russia just isn't the monger location it used to be and that is borne out by the fact that the Moscow & StPb forums on this site are not as active as they used to be and others have observed that often the girls / salons you call just hang up on you if you don't speak Russian. When I look at the history of posts in these two Russian threads I can only conclude I missed the boat. I was a year or two out of the tail end of the heyday of Russian mongering. Or, to put it another way, the country (Russia) that used to be prime monger real estate, is now exporting mongers. Russian men are now traveling with the goal of meeting girls in foreign locales. And as others on this forum have noted, the casual mongering isn't as successful anymore. You need to live in Russia for some weeks / months, pick up some Russian language, and move in different circles (not just the popular tourist areas).
In any case, I can't provide any good advice on where to find girls in StPb. I rarely go to clubs and I haven't stayed in a hotel in a long time. I did use petersburgescort. Com a couple of years ago. Their website has some gorgeous girls. And found that the girl I met with looked mostly like her photos, but the site is European-priced, and way out of my league except in the most dire emergency. I've already mentioned Mamba. And I think these days I mostly troll thru it when I'm in StPb, bored, and looking to kill some time and maybe, just maybe, stumble upon a prize.
Apartments, metro, SIM cards, excursions. These I can be useful with. Maybe some others here can be more helpful with the girl issue.
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Swimming upstream
Hi guys,
Next month I'll have a couple of days in St Petersburgh. I've browsed back in the forum more than one year back: I've read about many internet sites, about BBBJ being out of the menu and about the problem of not speaking Russian, mine is pratically 0. Can someone mention brothels, with addresses or phone numbers where someone speaks english, BBBJ is possible and price doesn't exceed 100 euros? I understand I'm swimming upstream, but still hope in some answer.
Thanks in advance
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1411466]the country (Russia) that used to be prime monger real estate, is now exporting mongers. Russian men are now traveling with the goal of meeting girls in foreign locales.[/QUOTE]Exact. I have met Russian guys in Tashkent who, because of the cheap cost of life, the abundance of available girls and the "exotism" of the city, go there each summer and wouldn't even consider to go elsewhere.
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Dear fellas,
Being aware of your trepidation and impatience to know about my swimming upstream, I'm pleased to inform you that it was a triumph. I had a full day and a half to carry out the task, and came out with 4 unloadings, two per day, second day 2 shots with the same girl.
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=1048[/url]
At about 1, 30 pm of a rainy day I went to Marata 39/23, first door on the right as soon as you enter. The building is in the courtyard in front of you, you dial 23 and wait, this is a good thing because you will not have to worry wondering about adding C, A, # and other various experiments in case they don't answer, also because you won't be able to get any help by phone since they don't speak a word of english, it took several long calls to make them understand I wanted a sms with their address, when they sent it they didn't put the bell number! I found funny to hear eventually by Russian speakers that the words "sms" and "address" are pratically the same in both languages. Flat and rooms are more than ok, but when you enter the building you get a bad impression, being it the typical run down falling apart building of ex communist countries.
There was only Nika, pretty face, cute eyes, captivating smile, a bit on the chubby side but proportionate, in the photos she looks slimmer, anyway at first sight I felt she was fuckable, she had lit the sparkle. We agreed for 2500 rubles for 30 mins including BBBJ. I was offered drinks but I refused, I rather not to take drinks in similar situations, reasons being security and avoiding troubles with wasted time that girls may count as sex, like they normally do with shower time, in fact eventually I'll learn that in this "salon", when you release and have time left, you can try second shot or go to shower or do whatever else, you paid the time and you choose what to do.
She started a skillfull, passionate, classy, could define in a word: fun-tastyc BBBJ, quite sometime I didn't enjoy so much being blown. I was sorry to switch to intercourse, but I couldn't pay that much only for a blowjob! In the beginning she was enjoying it "too much" (loud moaning), but eventually I think she really felt something sincerely. In some 15 mins I unloaded, I had had a forced stop of one week, nearly a record to me, I thought that was it. Instead she said we could go for 2nd shot, she made me understand I didn't even need to go to wash, she just cleaned by tissue my little head and started blowing again. Even more enjoyable to think she was surely taking and swallowing the leaks. Then she wanted again to fuck, a couple of positions. My eyes were busy watching the clock and my hears kept listening to her mobile's vibrations and alarms, but we were still carrying on. Unfortunately I couldn't release, sweaty and tired I asked if she could go by mouth, but this stop put an end to the matter. I offered 500 more for some 5-10 mins, but she politely refused, and she was right by all means because the full hour alone costs 4000, we were closed to 50 mins, how could I complain?
All this without a word in english! I asked her if she was one of the porn actresses her site claims to have in house, she shyly said she wasn't, I think she could try, staring at her straightly or in the mirror while she blows you is better than watching a movie.
Conclusion: clearly not a stunner, but very kind girl, great service, great attitude, great price (normally you'll get a surcharge of 1-2K when you mention BBBJ, here she'd give me also CIM included!) , easy to find (also thanks to me ;-) ) , in my opinion worth a try.
More to come
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Well Done EastGoing
[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1427015]Conclusion: clearly not a stunner, but very kind girl, great service, great attitude, great price (normally you'll get a surcharge of 1-2K when you mention BBBJ, here she'd give me also CIM included!) , easy to find (also thanks to me.) , in my opinion worth a try.
More to come[/QUOTE]EG, Great report. I am happy you had success. I am in Moscow for the first time in 3 weeks! I hope to have more success than you there.
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[QUOTE=YummyPL;1427052]EG, Great report. I am happy you had success. I am in Moscow for the first time in 3 weeks! I hope to have more success than you there.[/QUOTE]Thanks YummyPL,
I too wish you to have more success than me in Moscow, but it shouldn't be difficult! LOL! Especially if you have time enough, another requirement that I was missing. I "sacrified" interesting excursions to try to make come true the dream of "stamping the tag work" in Moscow! And I met Paulina! And I was sincerely happy I did it! LOL!
I continue with the second episode.
At about 8pm I went back to the mentioned MuMu salon to verify if other girls were available, anyway I wouldn't have been unhappy to repeat with Nika. I was welcomed by a woman I had already seen in the afternoon, when I had to struggle to be reopened the main door because I had forgotten my umbrellar. I tried to make her notice that it was my second trip there in a few hours and maybe I was entitled to some reward, obviously hopelessly (to be understood and even more to be rewarded).
There was Uliana, whose pics you can find on the link I already posted, but I must say that they don't do justice to her. Contrarily to normal, she is much better by person than in pics, her "weakest" point being the face, just average, not ugly but nothing special, especially considering the scandalous beauties you can meet up there. She has a model body, all firm, hard, perfect boobs, I'd never get tired to squeeze them (but the same works for her bum and belly) , and absolutely no fat nor cellulitis nor stretchmarks. I forgot to ask her if she is a porn actress, but I don't think so, she seems cold, but probably it's due to shyness. She says she's 19, looking at her face I would have said 25-6, but I would dare to say I actually noticed traces of unexperience and also "freshness", when fucking she seemed to genuinely get wet and her muffled, I'd define tender, moans started slowly with time going by, not instantly, and became more numerous and more felt. When I released she didn't jump off the bed like a kangaroo, she laid there seeming a girl who had had sex, not a simple sex-machine. I mean to underline that she didn't start (and never did) screaming loudly and crazily as soon as I got into her like many girls do to different volumes, you all know what I mean, Nika had been doing some unmotivated groans of pleasure as soon as we had started.
Anyway, we agreed same price and same conditions as Nika, but I wasn't optimist about the result being as good as in the afternoon, this time clearly we weren't alone (30 mins is 30 mins, not nearly 50) and the girl seemed less enthusiastic. Her BBBJ was nothing special, but a few hours after Nika's the very most of blowjobs would seem average ones. Then we had sex, a good satisfying session because of the described supposed genuine tenderness and because of the doll I was handling. When I unloaded she must have asked me what I wanted to do, again zero english. I chose to shower and let her rest for the about 5 mins I was left, there was not much she looked in condition to do, and surely she isn't as spirited, worn out, inspired or skillful as Nika, so I had already got the maximum, and I was afraid to squeeze her more! (Also fearing to spoil such a doll and to spoil my day by being badly rejected for squeezing after finishing).
Once again, you can find better and more "complete", it's impossible to put a limit to likings and beauty, especially in Russia, but surely (as little as) 2500 rubles you won't regret.
More to come
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Did anybody try one of these girls?
[url]http://spb.devochki.ru/[/url]
Girls and prices are almost too good to be true.
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http://www.rusdosug.com/indi128669.htm
Kronversky Prospect 31, a couple of minutes walking leftwards out of Gorkovskaya Metro, on the opposite side of the street. Walk inside the arch, always keep your left, it should be the second door, I'm not sure about the bell, perhaps 22, on 4th floor, but you can find out easily.
Actually I had called another number, but ended up with her, who anyway was obviously the one I spoke to, since her english was great. I was opened the door by a not too bad looking, but annoyed, not english speaking girl, then Nikol came in. Again, in spite of accuracy of her photos, she still looks better in person, really a model, a panther, only photoshop is for her navel, being of african origins it's like inflated, but not that much, with such a body you have other parts to admire, not as perfect as Uliana, especially in boobs consistancy, but still great. I was absurdly a bit undecided because I didn't go to Russia to fuck black girls, I wanted Russian ones. In spite of the great gap between the 2 of them, I took the easy, obvious, final decision when the Russian said she wouldn't do BBBJ. Surely the right choice by all points of view, after all, when I go in a brothel or pick up a SW, I don't care about the nationality of the girls.
After a difficult beginning to agree price and timing, we came out with 2500 + 1000 rubles for 1 hour including BBBJ, I pointed out that shower time didn't count, since she cared a lot about showers. Mine took a few seconds, anyway I showered before going there, hers a few minutes. From then on, everything was ok. She started kissing from neck downwards to the target, good BBBJ, good participated fuck in different positions, which she told me off for spoiling it because as soon as I unloaded I wanted to restart the procedures, she said we could have enjoyed the moment for a couple of minutes.
When we started the second session, she heartily cared me to be informed and notice that normally she doesn't do repetitions, I didn't bother to remind her that we had agreed that, but I was glad to feel "special", I still wonder the purpose of that statement. However, second session was even better than first one, passionate from both sides, I'd dare to say she sincerely enjoyed it, she said she's a beginner in the business, therefore probably she still feels and can appreciate sex, if she acts she deserves an oscar! I felt it was me being the careless professional (actually I am, LOL!) and her being the one to enjoy the action.
I even apologized for the discussion about showers, she was sincere in wanting me clean because she wanted to kiss around, but at first impact she seemed a cold squeezing calculator, I thought it would have been a total cheat and I had told her I wanted to leave, but then she slowly started melting down to GF.
Surely recommended, unless you are in Russia for white Russian chicks, LOL!
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Sorry, just noticed this link:
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi130955.htm[/url]
These pics display Nikol much better, not only because she smiles. Also, for those minding the details, in pic 2 and 6 you can have a clue of the size of her navel, which she hides a bit. I specify this because I know many guys don't like african navels, which can be really big and unwatchable, therefore some punters discharge beforehand. Well, she's not to be discharged.
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Tribunal
This is a bar that the old hands of spb used to wax lyrical about. Seems to have gone downhill from what they say over last 5 years. Am sure it has. As I never experienced it in its hey-day thought I would report on it as it is today. So am sat in the disco section at midnight just before white nights. There is me the barman waitress and 5 girls 3 are dancers and 2 look like p4p girls. We shall see. Unfortunately the dancers are keeping their clothes on. Will this change. One of the dancers I would rate 8/9 with amazing boobs for a small girl the others are worse 5/6. I shall try and do real- time reports as the night goes on but as I have to be up early in morning can only spend a couple of hours.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1429569]This is a bar that the old hands of spb used to wax lyrical about.[/QUOTE]Marstall was better in the old days. And easier to go to.
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Tribunal 2
Ah Reiner. Yes I have been to marstalls last year and was disappointed so this is the turn of tribunal ). Actually tribunal is growing on me. Quite interesting to see the interactions between dancers one doesn't pull her weight and seeing the others reaction is amusing. As for the bar / club 5 more girls in none who I would sleep with given the opportunities in this wonderful city. Three Russian guys have come in and one left with the girls who were here in my last report. I saw his tribunal VIP card as he put his bill away. Am wondering what this is- is it the card you buy to go with the girls or an actual VIP card the latter would amuse me greatly. Ooohhh a hot blonde has walked in I wonder what she is doing here). Also here are 2 Russian girls with 2 obviously gay Russian gays. Their dancing is also great fun. Looking forward to next hour)
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Porn in spb
Seems like its only me that is posting in the St Petersburg section at the moment. Is anyone else visiting? Anyway I was there for a week at the beginning of June and this is my report. Photos will follow in another report.
Day 1 Saturday. Got into spb on Saturday afternoon a long day travelling. One of my friends picked me up at the import and we went and picked up the keys of my apartment. Quickly we dropped my bags off and went clubbing at one of the clubs at one of the outdoor clubs on one of the islands (sorry can't remember which one). The weather was beautiful for the whole time I was there. Anyway a nice way to get back into life in spb plenty of pretty devs wearing short skirts and high heels. After travelling was tired so left about 2ish without trying to pick up any if the girls and back to apartment.
Day 2 Sunday. Today was first shoot I had arranged first girl couldn't make it so arranged to shoot with inga. She was a beautiful 20 yo blonde about 170cms and when she stripped off lovely little breasts that Russian blondes often have. First of all sat down and did a little interview with her. Then we went into the bedroom to shoot the scene. Knew that I wouldn't need any Viagra for this scene as I had had a raging hard-on since I had met her. Next part of scene was the striptease and as she slowly took off her flimsy blue dress. She had a beautiful body and my cock was by now desperate to enter her. After she played with a dildo and writhed around on the bed beckoning me to join her I could resist no longer. My clothes were soon off and my stiff cock was in her young mouth. She started giving me a great blowjob. Very wet using lots of spit. Which I love. The sex part of a scene takes a couple of hours to shoot so there was no rush from me for her to finish blowing me. After 45 minutes and plenty of different camera angles I was ready for something else. I got down and started licking her pussy. As I got close it smelt beautiful and as I entered her with my tongue it tested even better. Sweet in the way only a 19/20 yo can. She was one of those girls that love oral sex and she was soon screaming her enjoyment. Having moved onto 69 it was time for my bare cock to enter her pussy. Unfortunately she didn't do anal. However by now her pussy was soaking wet and I slid into her with ease needing no lube. We started with a bit of missionary which is not good on camera but is something I enjoy so do it but don't put it into final scene. She was moaning as I was pumping her and grinding her pussy into my cock to get a really deep penetration. Her legs were also tightly wrapped around me helping me get into her deeply. We moved onto cowgirl and reverse cowgirl. Again she was driving down onto my cock and by now her hair was soaked with perspiration. As she impaled herself on my dick she was tossing her head from side-to-side obviously enjoying being fucked by a foreign stud. The sight was beautiful and will be one that remains with me for the rest of my life. Moving onto doggy I knew soon I would spray her with my sticky white mess. However doggy first. There was a mirror opposite the bed and I enjoyed filming my cock pumping her pussy in the mirror. Gives you a different perspective. I was now tired but knew that I could not hold myself much longer. Stood up at the end of the bed and pulled her off the bed. Pushed her head down onto my cock, a bit of resistance, but she knew her job and took my cock smeared in her juices in her mouth again. As her head bobbed up and down I knew I was going to cum. So I positioned myself ready to cream her face with a weeks worth of saved up cum. I erupted on her face. Covering it and getting half into her beautiful blonde hair. As I am a gentleman I then helped her clean up by coating my fingers with the cum. I then put my fingers in her mouth and she licked it off. And then I repeated. Thus ended a great first scene. After the scene finished took her to the cafe opposite the apartment where we chatted before she had to leave. The evening I reported on at the time which was a bit of a disappointment.
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Porn in spb (II)
Day 3 Monday. In the morning I had business meetings but had organised a shoot for the afternoon. However mid-morning I got a message that the girl wasn't feeling well and although I tried to organise another girl but it was too late. So phoned the cameraman and make-up artist cancelling them and I had a free afternoon. So gave one of my friends a call and went out to new holland with her. This is a trendy park in spb that abramovitch has paid for. Interesting place but I was disappointed with it. Had a good time with my friend but no opportunity of sex with her so back to the apartment.
Day 4 Tuesday. Another nightmare with the girl that I was meant to shoot in the afternoon, Her med tests hadn't come back so needed to find another girl. Finally I did a very pretty petite brunette Russian called Foxy Di. Unfortunately she is contracted to one of the studios so I couldn't fuck her. One of the contracted studs had to. Anyway we shot the scene where she took a great anal seeing to. I got to direct the scene and also do the interview so not all was lost. Scene over, I had organised something I normally don't do. One of my contacts had organised a girl for escort. Anyway I had organised for her to get her med tests and had agreed for her to stay overnight and made sure there would be morning sex included. At 8pm the girl turns up at the agreed time and we start chatting. Turns out she is an ex porn-girl. In the photos I had seen she was a good looking tall brunetka, her hair colour was now platinum blonde but everything else was the same she's now about 25 and retired from porn! We then moved to the bedroom and she started blowing me. Her mouth was soft and she gave a great BBBJ with lots of effort on my balls. I then returned the favour and we got down to action. First sex we did three positions and I ended up coming on her face. She asked me not to cum inside her as like most Russian girls I doubt she was on the pill. We then moved to the jacuzzi and took one together. After 20 mins of messing around my hands slipped between her legs again and I started fingering her. I moved back onto the seat on the jacuzzi and she straddled me. Soon she was taking my length again and this time I came in her mouth. Back to the bed and there was time for a couple more rounds before we fell asleep together. Next morning I woke up with the normal morning wood and snuggled closely to the girl. She was still asleep but I felt her stir and pressed my clock against her pussy. As she started to wake she adjusted herself so I could enter her more easily. Some great mornin sex followed followed by another round before she left and I had to get ready for my day.
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Porn in spb (III)
Day 5 Wednesday. Again business meetings in morning and back to apartment ready for afternoon shoot. The girl I was shooting today was violetta. She I think is about 165com with blonde hair. Despite some old problems with spots she is a very pretty girl and I have been trying to shoot her for last 2 years, just never was possible. Started the scene by doing a short interview and the striptease. Had a cameraman for this scene which made it a lot easier for me to shoot and also he directed so pushed me tothe limits of what I could do. Started the scene with the standard BBBJ which was nice but this wasn't enough for Violetta within 5 minutes she was deep throating me her hands on my ass to get my dick right to the back. Obviously she gagged as well covering my cocktail with saliva. By now I was ready for her. I lay on the sofa as she put the tip of my cock in her ass and slowly lowered herself until I was balls deep in her backside in the cowgirl position. We'd used a little bit of lube but as an anal queen she was a true professional. Even so her ass felt delightfully tight around my member. Son she was sliding up and down gasping as I gave her anal pleasure. We moved onto reverse cowgirl, spoons and then she lay front down on the crouch as I slid my cock into what by now was a well used asshole. A few strokes and whipped my cock out of her ass eliciting a little moan of pleasure together with a huge gape. Which looks great on film. Carried on for another 5 mins in this position gaping her every few strokes before I decided I needed a bit more juice on my dick. Turned her round and placed my dick in her mouth. A slight grimace as I went ATM but nothing much. Once lubed back to the ass and I moved between anal and BJ over the next 5 mins. Next position was pile driver with violettas shoulders on a cushion on the floor and her ass winking at me perpendicularly above her face as I stood on th sofa to enter back passage. This isn't an easy position and I couldn't keep going for more than 5 mins.
Back to anal doggy and soon I was ready to cum. I stood in front of her as I finished on her face. Given the amount of sex I had had meant I wasn't able to coat her face but I gave it a good go. At the end of the scene I realised that violetta had remained a pussy virgin to me I had spent 2 hours or more just fucking her ass.
When violetta left I got an SMS from my 'girlfriend' Nastia in spb she was back from her parents and wanted to meet up. I say girlfriend as I am sure she is as faithful to me as I am to her but we have a good time together and except for paying for dinner a drinks the SW is free. She is also stunning I would rate her 10. Much better looking than any of my porn girls. She's 160cm 24 yo with bobbed blonde hair and lovely teeth. Her body is amazing. Very taut from loads of exercise but still fantastic boobs. I'm afraid I won't post any pics of her though. Even better she only speaks Russian. So we go to Nebar a club in spb and get settled down with some drinks in the VIP area. A sheesh a follows and we talk about things. Then she starts dancing after 10 mins I can't resist any longer I get up behind her and pull her close to me. She knows what to do and soon her ass rubbing on me is giving me a huge hard on. A couple of hours of dancing with her and watching her dancing on the bar and we are back to my apartment for some proper fun. Shec is the only girl in the trip that makes me use a condom) which is very ironic but after a BBBJ I am in her pussy giving her my full length. Her tight pussy means I come pretty quickly after a couple of positions and then after another round we fall asleep me with my hands on her tits.
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Porn in spb (IV)
Day 6 Thursday. Morning of business meetings and then back to apartment for shoot. The girl I was shooting was from Moscow so I had guaranteed her 2 shoots and also paid for her train fare. She was tall about 175cm with brunette hair and very skinny. Shot as a POV scene. Dressed her up in a military uniform which was soon stripped off. As ever the hardcore part of the scene started with BJ. Difference with this girl is she was also good a rimming. After the giving me a normal BJ she spent 20 min with her tongue up my ass. She didn't just lick the surface of my asshole but got her tongue in deep. A really pleasurable experience. Over to the main part of the scene and I enjoyed her pussy and ass in the scene before I came on her face.
Once we finished violetta turned up up the evening scene together with the cameraman and 2 Russian studs. A black guy erik and nikita. Med tests were all checked and scene explained. We were shooting a party scene with the guys and girls enjoying some Russian champagne before getting down to action. Also nastia came over as we were going out for dinner and was excited to meet erik who has now been on a reality tv show and is a bit of a star. The guys obviously hoped she was going to be in the scene and were disappointed when she wasn't. We went for dinner while they shot the scene. In watching the scene later it was a good scene lots of anal and the girls swapping regularly between the guys. Violetta did a big DP with the boys huge cocks which looked painful watching it but she seemed to really enjoy it. At the end of the scene both finished in the girls mouths and they swallowed their cum. I came back after dinner and had a round with nastia but she was working early in the morning so didn't stay over.
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Porn in spb (V)
Day 7 Friday. Bella Hally stayed with me on Thursday night as her train was on Friday morning. Having no meetings on Friday morning thought I would chance my luck with her. I took her out for breakfast over which I found out that she was happy for some more fun later. We discussed porn and her life in Moscow when she told me she was married (not uncommon for porn girls) After breakfast we wandered back to the apartment and to her bedroom where we started kissing. My hands moved up under her skirt and I started playing with her pussy. Knickers moved to one side and I entered her again. A few positions with BJ in between and I ended up coming on her stomach. A nice freebie to go with the scenes I paid for.
In the afternoon I had another shoot organised with a very pretty 21 yo Olga. She didn't do anal but everything else was on the menu. She was very pretty again brunette about 160cm but the most impressive feature was her blowjob lips. They were amazing. Again start of scene was striptease with toys. Then we moved to one of the bedrooms for the hardcore part. This was a scene with cameraman so was a relaxed scene to shoot. Unfortunately Olga didn't want to kiss much which I think was the first time this happened in all the time I have shot in Russia. We went through normal positions. Doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and missionary. Ending with a nice cumshot in her mouth.
For the evening met up with a girl who was a friend of a friend. No sex but am sure at some point in the future there will be.
Day 8. Saturday was meant to shoot jalace this day but she smsed me saying she was ill. I knew she had probably been out on Friday evening and was hungover. However I was pretty fucked out so was quite glad the shoot was cancelled. Instead went with one of my friends to an erotic exhibition in spb. The demonstrations of pole dancing were amazing and it was great fun. Afternoon we went to a beach on the bay of Finland and soaked up the rays while having a couple of drinks. Back to spb for evening and dinner and shag with nastia.
Day 9. Sunday. Flight back home in morning. Tired but satisfied)
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Spb porn pics
Photo 1+2. Inga. Blonde with blue dress
Photo 3-5. Foxy Di - brunette with stud
Photo 6+7. Violetta blonde sitting on sofa
Photo 8 . Bella hally in army uniform.
Photo 9+10. Violetta and bella hally beginning of party scene
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Spb porn pics (II)
Photos are Olga. These are all taken with my iPhone so the quality unfortunately isn't great
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Hey Jonners. Which girl is this?
[QUOTE=Jonners; 1448860]Photo 1+2. Inga. Blonde with blue dress
Photo 3-5. Foxy Di. Brunette with stud
Photo 6+7. Violetta blonde sitting on sofa
Photo 8. Bella hally in army uniform.
Photo 9+10. Violetta and bella hally beginning of party scene[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=188398&d=1374432605[/url]
Which girl is she?
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[QUOTE=Chill Bill; 1448881][url]Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=188398&d=1374432605[/url]
Which girl is she?[/QUOTE]Foxy Di. See the first part of day 4 for details of her shoot.
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Rusdosug. Com and rusprostitute. Com legit sites?
Any info on them would be great.
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Rusprostitute or rusdosug?
Yep I have the same question as the last post. Does anyone know which is generally the more reliable site out of rusprostitute. Com and rusdosug. Com? A few of the escorts have some feedback on rusdosug but I there's no comments at all on rusprostitute. Com.
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Tashkent!
[QUOTE=Prosal;1418296]Exact. I have met Russian guys in Tashkent who, because of the cheap cost of life, the abundance of available girls and the "exotism" of the city, go there each summer and wouldn't even consider to go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Tashkent! They must be crazy Tashkent is the worst place for girl a shit hole everywhere close 12 and the girls are just looking not for an honest sugardaddy or money but an idiot to take them way I would never go there for girls.
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Jonners,
Thanks for the excellent reports on Porn in Piter, and the pix! Can't help but wonder. Why is it that we never get these kinds of reports from Moscow? Is Piter the defacto porn capital of the RF? Why is that? Are the laws different? Is it a cultural difference between the 2 cities?
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Porn
Actually, the porn shoots posted here are all examples of foreign porn and are all are violating Russian laws, as the "director" used, for example, a tourist visa to enter the country. In point of fact, Moscow is probably the center for Russian domestic porn. StPb attracts the foreigner made porn or porn made for foreign consumption because of the unique StPb region Schengen visa situation. Russians who get some money by making porn can get a Schengen visa much easier if they are StPb residents and girls who want to go for the gold in porn (by working in Budapest or Barcelona, e. G.) or work in Euro hotels as escorts also get Schengen visas much easier in stpb. StPb is more the doorway to Europe in this regard.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1451744]Jonners,
Thanks for the excellent reports on Porn in Piter, and the pix! Can't help but wonder. Why is it that we never get these kinds of reports from Moscow? Is Piter the defacto porn capital of the RF? Why is that? Are the laws different? Is it a cultural difference between the 2 cities?[/QUOTE]
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Spb porn
Stravinsky. Thanks for saying you enjoyed the reports. I don't know why you don't get any reports from Moscow however if you look at the reports it is only me that reports at all so if I was shooting in Moscow them you would get more reports from there. But yes spb is the centre of porn in Russia. There are a couple of studios in Moscow but the majority are in spb. There are many Russian studios shooting in spb and one foreign studio that I know of as well. Why the business developed in spb I am not sure the laws are the same. I think it is an accident of history in that the first major studio after fall of soviet union was in in spb. Also as a proportion of the population there are far more students in spb than Moscow and this is where the majority of girls come from. In Moscow given it is the business capital they tend to become escorts.
Skwiskwis. There is no difference in the ease of getting a schengen visa between spb and Moscow and a lot of the escorts are from other areas of Russia. It's just there are agents in spb who specialise in getting girls to shoot in Europe which there aren't in Moscow. Lastly what I shoot in spb is not illegal. Although am amused that you think you know the type of visa I have. By the way you are wrong.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1451744]Jonners,
Thanks for the excellent reports on Porn in Piter, and the pix! Can't help but wonder. Why is it that we never get these kinds of reports from Moscow? Is Piter the defacto porn capital of the RF? Why is that? Are the laws different? Is it a cultural difference between the 2 cities?[/QUOTE]
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Porn
If you have a business visa then I'm quite sure you did not put "director and performer: porn movies" on the application and I'm 100% positive you do not have a Russian work visa. I'm also quite sure you haven't paid a penny in Russian taxes, nor filed the required paperwork for your "employees" in regard to reporting your salaries to them. Your in good company, however, as Rocco and other "known" Euro "stars / directors" have on numerous occasions filmed their porn in Russia. And, I'm 100% certain you leave Russia via the "Green Zone" where you don't report the value of the porn movies you have shot, which is also required by law. If indeed you were shooting porn movies as a business and not "home movies" then you were violating numerous Russian laws. The fact of the matter is, to this point, no one in authority really cares. you can in fact post an ad for "actresses" and no one in authority will come knocking to check and see if you have filled out all the right forms. Lots of foreigners travel to Russia to make porn or employ Russians to shoot them for them and their profit margin comes from just exactly what I've described. Low salaries to their employees, not paying taxes, etc. Regardless, there is a difference between the StPb region and the rest of Russia regarding Finnish Schengen visas. Since this isn't my opinion, but something which can be verified by simply asking any Russian who lives in StPb, or asking almost any Russian for that matter, or simply by google, I'll not pursue it. The only relevance of this topic, anyway, to the purpose of this forum is that it makes it much easier for "us" to pick up and travel abroad (Schengen Zone) with a girl from the StPb region than one we meet in most other parts of Russia (unless we want to travel to Turkey, Egypt, Maldives, etc). GB of course is not in the Schengen Zone and if you want to go to GB with a girl from Russia your best bet is to wait for one of the Russian football teams to play a game in London. For such matches, GB fast tracks visas for the days of the matches. Of course you will have to provide tickets to the matches as proof your really a fan.
QUOTE=Jonners; 1452142]Stravinsky. Thanks for saying you enjoyed the reports. I don't know why you don't get any reports from Moscow however if you look at the reports it is only me that reports at all so if I was shooting in Moscow them you would get more reports from there. But yes spb is the centre of porn in Russia. There are a couple of studios in Moscow but the majority are in spb. There are many Russian studios shooting in spb and one foreign studio that I know of as well. Why the business developed in spb I am not sure the laws are the same. I think it is an accident of history in that the first major studio after fall of soviet union was in in spb. Also as a proportion of the population there are far more students in spb than Moscow and this is where the majority of girls come from. In Moscow given it is the business capital they tend to become escorts.
Skwiskwis. There is no difference in the ease of getting a schengen visa between spb and Moscow and a lot of the escorts are from other areas of Russia. It's just there are agents in spb who specialise in getting girls to shoot in Europe which there aren't in Moscow. Lastly what I shoot in spb is not illegal. Although am amused that you think you know the type of visa I have. By the way you are wrong.[/QUOTE]
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Spb porn
As I said before what I shoot on spb is not illegal
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Which site
Hey do any of you guys know whether rusdosug or rusprostitute are reliable sites? What's the situation with law enforcement in Petersburg at the moment? Do jons get trouble from the militya (or politsya as they appear to be called now).
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Russian pros
[QUOTE=GodzG; 1448929]Rusdosug. Com and rusprostitute. Com legit sites?
Any info on them would be great.[/QUOTE]Dosug. CZ for Moscow and Saint Petersburg is also good.
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Heads Up
Visiting StPb. Here's a Mamba girl I can vouch for. Mariya. 25. Which is possible, definitely in the 25-28 range. Photos are accurate, though this current profile has a bit of face photoshop and or are perhaps a couple of years old. She's got an athletic body, muscular and toned, especially her legs, which isn't quite what I like, but I was still happy with her appearance (and she is indeed tall and leggy). Her price is 10, 000 rubles for 2-3 hours. Have met with her twice. Classic sex and anal, all with condom. BJ without condom and you can finish in her mouth (though she makes a beeline for the toilet afterwards). Also definitely in the enthusiastic, noise making sex category, though not so much that you get distracted (not obviously fake, in other words).
She also speaks passable English, so you can chat her up. I'll also give her high marks for the fact that she traveled a good distance to meet me, as I'm staying in an inconveniently located apartment.
[url]http://www.mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=1147697681&hit=3[/url]
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Are there any nightclubs where freelancers work
Are there any nightclubs where freelancers work in St P that you can recommend?
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Mamba StPb
Here's another Mamba girl I can vouch for. Photos are not even touched up. She's tall, more than 178, and slender. Long legged. I've met with her 3 times now. She's also reliable and will show up on time.
6000 for 2-3 hours. Classic. BJ no condom. You can finish in her mouth. The first time we met she said she wouldn't swallow, but the third time we met she did, so, either she's moody or adaptable.
No anal. Listed on Mamba as 25 and she could be, though I would estimate probably 27-29.
She speaks no English whatsoever.
And, while I have not asked her, she seems to me to have had a child. Which is what I believe accounts for her biggest downside, as far as I'm concerned: her breasts.
[url]http://www.mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=972379749&hit=3[/url]
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StPb Mamba
My last day in StPb. I met another girl from Mamba. We had exchanged a few messages on mamba the last couple of times I visited StPb but this was our first meeting. To be honest I just never believed that the photos were real, but, well, I have a weakness for redheads so I finally gave in to temptation. Here's the link:
[url]http://www.mamba.ru/anketa.phtml?oid=1092606421&hit=3[/url]
I've included a pic of the girl that turned up. Listed as 24 on Mamba and that's possible.. certainly in the 24-27 range. Now, I don't think the girl that turned up is the girl from the Mamba pics, but the girl insisted that she was and had just changed her hair style, wasn't wearing makeup, etc.
And of course there are the wonders of photoshop. But I still don't think the girl from the Mamba photos is the girl who turned up. Judge for yourselves. She certainly wasn't a pro and I don't think she was a semi-pro from an agency, because she didn't want the money up front. My experience has been that the more inexperienced they are the more they trust you to give them the money later or even when they are ready to leave, or that they think they must provide the service before they are paid. Whatever. Pros certainly will insist on the money up front.
In any case, the girl that turned up did oral with no condom and classic, no anal. The deal was 3 hours for 10000 rubles, but after an hour I let her go. She speaks no English whatsoever. Nothing negative to say about her, so don't take the fact that I let her go early as a criticism. She's carrying about 5kgs more weight than I would like, especially in the back of her front (that would be her ass) , but I tend toward the thin / skinny / emaciated look, and she otherwise has a nice body. Great breasts (firm, great shape, midsized). She will also French kiss. Which many of you Russian vets probably know is not that common amongst Russian girls (I've had a Russian girl start her period during sex and immediately switch to oral but absolutely refuse to kiss with her mouth open. Go figure!).
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Hey all,
Anyone have any preferences for strip clubs? I've really only seen golden dolls advertised but looks like it's twice the price of the clubs in Moscow.
Also heard about:
Domenico's.
Gothika.
Legacy.
Maximus.
But are these clubs still open? In STP for a few nights if any are better on a Fri or Sat.
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Hotel in Petersburg
Can anyone recommend a hotel with a lot of girls available in the lobby or an attached nightclub and / or security staff who can order girls for guests, preferably in the centre of Petersburg and not too expensive (ca 100-250 USD per night)?
There is not enough info about hotels on this website. Many of us need to choose a hotel in advance, and there is no info. So please share.
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Salons / brothels Petersburg
As I have argued in the past, the best option in places like Petersburg and Moscow is salons, I. E. Small or medium-sized brothels based in apartments. Then you can make a real choice between real girls who are in front of you. Anything else is liable to photoshopping, fake photos, traffic jams, missed appointments and so on.
Here are some overviews of salons in Petersburg:
[url]http://amurworld.com/salon/[/url]
[url]http://www.prostitutok.net/index.php?city=spb&page=intim_salon[/url]
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salons.php[/url]
[url]http://www.karamelki.org/[/url]
You can also try googling "intim salon spb" in cyrillics.
I tried a couple of the AM chain of salons. They have nice premises, and the girls are very attractive. At the poshest one of them, where the price is 4000 rather than 3000 roubles per hour, the lineup is incredible. About 10 girls all of them 8s or 9s. Bodies are 9s or 10s, and that is what counts most for me. However, the big drawback is that they do no BBBJ, DATY or kissing. While they are very sociable, friendly and service-minded. So it is a bit of a surreal experience to have this incredible beauty in your arms, she will suck you non-stop for 50 minutes if you want, you can have sex with her, but you never get close to her. Although I hate that, in the end I kind of enjoyed my session there, but I won't be going back
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More on salons
If you use this site, each salon comes with a map and below the map a list of other salons in the neighbourhood. This makes it much easier to choose ones that are near you or efficiently raid a neighbourhood
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salons.php[/url]
The Karamelki chain of salons is one of the more interesting. Quite cheap, looks of girls are variable, but performance tends to be very good. Karamelki seems to be the main object of discussion on the Russian fora. There are four Karamelki salons, but two of them are adjacent apartments at the top of the same flight of stairs. One of them only has 30+ girls, the other has regular young girls 18-30.
What you are doing in strip clubs is beyond me, you might as well stay home and wank to porn. Nothing wrong in that, and its a lot cheaper.
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Salon Premium
The salon / brothel called Premium is an option. When I was there there was a lineup of 7-8 girls. 6-9 in looks. I chose Eva, who had a very pretty face (not something that is usually important to me) .24 years old. She turned out to be quite chubby, something I don't care for, but very pleasant and nice in bed. Afterwards I chose Elsie. 20 years old, pale skin, long legs, beautiful body, firm small breasts. Turned out she was quite sexually inexperienced, but open to learn. I enjoyed it so much that I ended up extending for a total of three hours with her. Both girls refused to do BBBJ, but everything else was ok, including a discrete finger in the naughty hole. They claimed to be sisters. Always difficult to say whether a claim like that is true, but it seemed plausible to me. The cost is 3000 RUR per hour, but there is considerable up-selling for DATY, DFK and anything else of interest. I think it is good to get that cleared out of the way before sessioning. Premium is located Zakharevskaia Street 23, near Chernyshevskaya Metro station, in the central part of Petersburg, though not right by Nevsky Prospekt. Tel. +7812 9277104.
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Russian Girls with Kids
Visiting StPb again for a few days and took a chance on Mamba. The photo is of a girl I met who is listed as Yana. 23, 178 on her profile. She is in fact 23 (showed me her Russian passport). Is certainly 178, with most of that legs. As far as face goes, the photo actually is a good one of her, obviously with tons of makeup. She's done some kind of modeling work (which doesn't mean much in Russia, since in country models are a dime a dozen). I'd rate her face a 7 in person. She also has very long hair. You can't see her legs, but I'd rate them a 10+, if your a fan of the super long, thin sort of leg. When she showed up in a very very short skirt and black stockings (coat still on) I thought I had found monger nirvana, given the face and legs. Which is of course what I could see at the moment.
Now comes the "but," which oddly puts in my mind the utter BS that often appears in the dating Russian women thread when posts there extol the virtues of picking up Russian girls with families.
So, face, hair. 7. Even 8. Legs. 10+, even ++++, but from the neck to her legs her rating plummets to a 3, even 2.
Why? Because she is a Russian girl who has had children, two in fact, and what all the posts extolling the virtues of picking up Russian girls with kids always fail to mention is that after they have had a kid their bodies go to hell. Particularly between the neck and leg area. Alas, such is the case with this girl. Despite being "thin," she retains a post pregnancy stomach bubble, her breasts, of course, are post-nursing, that is saggy and soft. And, naturally enough, her ass is also obviously post child birth. Won't get into the stretch marks.
And the same exact thing occurred when I met another girl, this one 26, who I had not seen for 3 years. Three years ago she was a traffic stopping blonde. Now she's a still pretty, but dumpy, blonde with two kids. After no contact for over two years, she wrote me just before I came to stpb and I thought "what luck!"
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Russian girls with kids
My suggestion is that you then find a traffic stopping girl to fall in love with and by the time she's had 2 kids you won't care. Either that or you do what Russian guys do and trade her in for a new model every 2 or 3 years. Quite like what Europeans do with their cars.
Also you forgot to mention that at the magic witching age of 30 kids or no kids Russian girls go rapidly downhill.
Despite all this I personally find them addictive and enchanting.
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Russian girls with kids
I do prefer Russian girls that already have kids.
Having kids is THE ISSUE of every single girl in Russia and it can spoil the game. Or the rest of your life.
Four years ago, I met a girls through mamba, she was very cute, we had a good time visiting Moscow in the afternoon, then she said she would come to my apartment, but she is a "serious girl". So I let her go. We exchange mail twice a year and I met her last summer, she now has a 2 years old daughter, the father is a western financial expert who comes to Moscow 3 or 4 times a year, he is pissed off because he has a family in his home country and he pays for his Russian daughter.
Marriage is when to two people get together to fix problems they would not have had if they were not married.
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Ballet
The only thing better than spb girls in porn is spb girls at the ballet)
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[QUOTE=Chercheur; 1479377]I do prefer Russian girls that already have kids.
Having kids is THE ISSUE of every single girl in Russia and it can spoil the game. Or the rest of your life.
Four years ago, I met a girls through mamba, she was very cute, we had a good time visiting Moscow in the afternoon, then she said she would come to my apartment, but she is a "serious girl". So I let her go. We exchange mail twice a year and I met her last summer, she now has a 2 years old daughter, the father is a western financial expert who comes to Moscow 3 or 4 times a year, he is pissed off because he has a family in his home country and he pays for his Russian daughter.
Marriage is when to two people get together to fix problems they would not have had if they were not married.[/QUOTE]That is what I call a trap. Do not walk into it if you can not handle it.
BR,
Owarunner
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[QUOTE=Argyle80; 1462280]Hey all,
Anyone have any preferences for strip clubs? I've really only seen golden dolls advertised but looks like it's twice the price of the clubs in Moscow.
Also heard about:
Domenico's.
Gothika.
Legacy.
Maximus.
But are these clubs still open? In STP for a few nights if any are better on a Fri or Sat.[/QUOTE]I visited Maximus and also Golden Girls.
Golden Girls had some very average to less than average girls by international standards (large city, average strip club).
Maximus, one of the girls there told me that it was the best club in SPB. Compared to Golden Girls she was definitely telling the truth. Nobody 9 or 10 in this club, but many 8s, and no fat or ugly girls. So good solid average.
Girls fun to talk to as well, many inquiries about,"What is your program for the evening?". This is the invitation to take them home. Nobody with a bad attitude. Club is a bit small but recommended. Girls push for drinks and food but not more than they should, given that it's their job and all, I enjoyed myself.
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Seduction private club. A test to get picked up by working girls
SEDUCTION private club. A test to get picked up by "working girls"
Vladimirsky Prospect 10, opposite of the Golden Garden Boutique Hotel.
Saturday night. 21:00 local time / Oct 2013.
Start: Sitting by myself in Palkins Restaurant (top food!) at Vladimirski Prospekt. Two nice looking girls (age approx. 21-23) at next table having dinner. One girl going to restroom, the other girl flirting me with eye contact. Coming to my table asking for a lighter (smoking). After quick intro, I join their table, they barely speak english, but we work it out having fun and some tea.
The hunt begins. They tell me, tonite its her sistster's birthday. They are on the way to bring her a birthday present. They show me a ticket for a concert of a "famous Russian singer". Very smart trick! Her sister is working at a bar = Seduction private club. I ask them if they work also there, both answer with no. I pay my dinner and their desserts, and we walk 5 minutes down the street to the Club.
The birthday party. After passing door bell, Girls bring me in. 1000 Rubels Entrance for males. What a surprise. Security check and scan. Now they know what you have in your pockets. First impresssion entering Bar. I am the only male guest. In room. 6-7 Girls sitting around, some dance to Europop Music. Rooms are nice, everything clean. NOW "my" girls meet sister and give her present, all very happy. Immediately need some drinks to celebrate. Sure they want Tequilla shots.
My trick: I tell them I am under medication after my heart attack last year, not possible to drink hard stuff. Danger of life. Only a little wine or beer allowed. (now they know KO drops are risky)
1 bottle Pinot Noir from Italy = 7500 RUB (app. 230 USD) .1 Cocktail = 1500-2000 RUB (app. +- 50 USD)
I order beer for me, and 5-6 Cocktails in total. We drink and I touch a little bit the girls that picked me up.
The surprise. The girl picking me up is pole dancer of that bar, the other girl is her friend. After some touching and laughing they bring me check to pay and then out of the club.
I was the wrong guy, so they just stopped after 45 minutes of trying to seduce me to drink and spend a lot. The very friendly and funny girls turned in seconds into ice cold and unfriendly.
The cost: 1000 RUB Entrance + 7900 RUB Drinks = 8900 RUB / 275 USD was "a lot" but still reasonable for my testing budget.
For the same money you can get a nice girl from any Escort Service, but for the entire night.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1469981]Can anyone recommend a hotel with a lot of girls available in the lobby or an attached nightclub and / or security staff who can order girls for guests, preferably in the centre of Petersburg and not too expensive (ca 100-250 USD per night)?
There is not enough info about hotels on this website. Many of us need to choose a hotel in advance, and there is no info. So please share.[/QUOTE]I just got back from SPB and had been staying at the Holiday Inn. It is girl friendly and more importantly has a club attached, The aptly named XXXX club. There are always working girls in there but there are usually more Friday and Saturday nights.
Cost is 3-4k roubles for 1 hour. Although if the girl likes you she may stay the whole night for a little more as I found to my own experience.
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About the XXXX bar. There seems to be several of them. Which one has the Holiday Inn attached?
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[QUOTE=Bill11;1528718]About the XXXX bar. There seems to be several of them. Which one has the Holiday Inn attached?[/QUOTE]FGI.
[url]http://www.saint-petersburg.com/hotels/holiday-inn-moskovskye-vorota/dining/xxxx-bar.asp[/url]
Might be the one?
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Just do the easy thing
Hi!
Was in Piter in January. Speak some Russian, and looked forward to see the fantastic girls from the websites. Have read others that say reliable, not my experience. Tried them all. Rusdosug etc. Impossible to find places. Dess numbers. Walking, looking, finally finding a place and all girls old and ugly.
I just gave up.
Endes up using massage parlours. Fantastic! They advertise openly in streets, there are a few along Nevsky area moskovsky railway station. 5-6000 for various massages ending in handjobs. All seemed to have catalogues of girls at work that day, so you pointed at photos rather than having a lineup.
Search for erotic massage on Google, and many will be listed w adresses. Have a look at sites. Menus there. My favourite was decidedly skap massage at Aelite, or Elite. A bit off main drag. Had to taxi 500 rbl from Moskovsky.
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Holiday Inn
[QUOTE=TJH9706; 1527401]I just got back from SPB and had been staying at the Holiday Inn. It is girl friendly and more importantly has a club attached, The aptly named XXXX club. There are always working girls in there but there are usually more Friday and Saturday nights.
Cost is 3-4k roubles for 1 hour. Although if the girl likes you she may stay the whole night for a little more as I found to my own experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks man! This kind of info is incredibly useful, not just for me. I encourage others to follow suit and share more hotel info, wherever they go.
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Web reliability in SP
[QUOTE=Cucumber; 1471161]As I have argued in the past, the best option in places like Petersburg and Moscow is salons, I. E. Small or medium-sized brothels based in apartments. Then you can make a real choice between real girls who are in front of you. Anything else is liable to photoshopping, fake photos, traffic jams, missed appointments and so on.
Here are some overviews of salons in Petersburg:
[url]http://amurworld.com/salon/[/url]
[url]http://www.prostitutok.net/index.php?city=spb&page=intim_salon[/url]
[url]http://www.rusdosug.com/salons.php[/url]
[url]http://www.karamelki.org/[/url]
You can also try googling "intim salon spb" in cyrillics.
I tried a couple of the AM chain of salons. They have nice premises, and the girls are very attractive. At the poshest one of them, where the price is 4000 rather than 3000 roubles per hour, the lineup is incredible. About 10 girls all of them 8s or 9s. Bodies are 9s or 10s, and that is what counts most for me. However, the big drawback is that they do no BBBJ, DATY or kissing. While they are very sociable, friendly and service-minded. So it is a bit of a surreal experience to have this incredible beauty in your arms, she will suck you non-stop for 50 minutes if you want, you can have sex with her, but you never get close to her. Although I hate that, in the end I kind of enjoyed my session there, but I won't be going back[/QUOTE]Dear Sirs,
I am totally new to SP info.
I have some good info on Brasil which I would share if needed.
My question, after reading the SP thread: Is it a total waste of time to even look at the web sites listed? My feeling is that it is, but I do not understand the logic to put hundreds of fake profiles on the sites. Is the intent that they all lead to a few places, or agencies, full of buffalos? I see the salons are suggested, as the quality from reports is legitimate. Or maybe the salons are not to be trusted either. The listed rates on the sites are about 2000 R, but from reading other posts, that does not appear to be a real rate. Is the real rate about 4-5000 per hour?
I also read it is not recommended to visit private apartments, only salons, for safety reasons (police and mafia). No Russian spoken here, but I was in SP many years ago, and it had a much more western feel than Moscow.
Seeking to save my eyeballs from hours of strain, should I stop looking at this pie in the sky? If yes, what is worth looking (on the web) at for SP, with any truth to it (salon sites). The web sites make SP seem like a virtual paradise. Is it all just bullshit, and the real quality is not good. Is there a link to the AM salon chain, which gets a positive review?
Thank you greatly in advance. If even one in 20 of the profiles on the websites (independents) was real, it would be amazing.
Cheers
Ibiza
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[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1537605]Seeking to save my eyeballs from hours of strain, should I stop looking at this pie in the sky? If yes, what is worth looking (on the web) at for SP, with any truth to it (salon sites). The web sites make SP seem like a virtual paradise. Is it all just bullshit, and the real quality is not good. Is there a link to the AM salon chain, which gets a positive review?[/QUOTE]The only way to know for sure is to talk to the guy(s) who have been there before.
Sextalk.ru has a thread for Piter: [url]sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_spb[/url]
Dosug.cz also has one: [url]www.dosug.cz/ru/d/part/58[/url]
If you take the time to read the reviews there for the girls, and pick the girls with the best overall reputation, you can be pretty sure of what you will get. Nothing is guaranteed, but it's better than going blind, picking your way through every escort website for Piter.
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Good info. Thanks
[QUOTE=Stravinsky; 1537968]The only way to know for sure is to talk to the guy (s) who have been there before.
Sextalk. Ru has a thread for Piter:
[url]sextalk.ru/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_spb[/url]
Dosug. CZ also has one:
[url]www.dosug.cz/ru/d/part/58[/url]
If you take the time to read the reviews there for the girls, and pick the girls with the best overall reputation, you can be pretty sure of what you will get. Nothing is guaranteed, but it's better than going blind, picking your way through every escort website for Piter.[/QUOTE]Good info and thanks for the reply. It may be easier to just go to Spain or Germany and look for beautiful slavic women.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1538000]Good info and thanks for the reply. It may be easier to just go to Spain or Germany and look for beautiful slavic women.[/QUOTE]The easiest way to meet a gorgeous slavic babe is in the FKK clubs of Germany and Austria.
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STDs in StP
Hello!
I am not a poster in the ISG, just a follower, but will be visiting StP this summer. I read somewhere that nearly all workers in the trade in StP have some form of STD. I find it hard to believe, but worth a question here. The Slavic women are so gorgeous! Are they less cautious, not as well informed, or is what I read total nonsense?
Thanks for all your expert opinions!
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[QUOTE=MikeNm; 1552017]Hello!
I am not a poster in the ISG, just a follower, but will be visiting StP this summer. I read somewhere that nearly all workers in the trade in StP have some form of STD. I find it hard to believe, but worth a question here. The Slavic women are so gorgeous! Are they less cautious, not as well informed, or is what I read total nonsense?
Thanks for all your expert opinions![/QUOTE]My experience with Russian "working girls" is that they are quite fastidious when it comes to safe sex insisting on the use of condoms. Having said that, girls have occasionally offered unprotected sex (which I turned down for safety reasons). What is surprising is how many non-pros will agree to unprotected sex. I suppose the point is that maybe one should pay more attention to the non-pros than the pros when it comes to STD's.
An old girlfriend of mine agreed to unprotected sex with me ONLY after we both got checked for STD's. I told her that I had had a vasectomy years ago so getting pregnant was not an issue. She laughed out loud and told me that she was not worried about getting pregnant. Then she rattled off a whole LIST of STD's she was more concerned about HALF of which I had never HEARD of.
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Less STDs from pros
[QUOTE=Jake993;1552093]My experience with Russian "working girls" is that they are quite fastidious when it comes to safe sex insisting on the use of condoms. Having said that, girls have occasionally offered unprotected sex (which I turned down for safety reasons). What is surprising is how many non-pros will agree to unprotected sex. I suppose the point is that maybe one should pay more attention to the non-pros than the pros when it comes to STD's.[/QUOTE]My impression corresponds exactly to yours Jake. I also have the impression that the situation is the same in Western Europe. The behavior of the non-pros is irresponsible and uninformed. They think they are somehow impervious to STDs, that it is something that only exists somewhere else, among some other people. But no sexual universes are separate anymore. Although a freebie may not have had many partners and those partners may not have seemed that bad, who really knows what universes they are connecting her, and you, with. For an example of a different and scary universe, have a look at what many of the guys in the Philippines threads are writing about their multiple partners per day of totally unprotected sex over long periods of time. And many of those lunatics have also done a stint in Russia at some point raiding freebies. That's just an example from the forum itself. Of course Russia has lots of other sources of trouble, like its massive population of intravenous drug users.
But having said that, as long as you use condoms for penetrative sex (vaginal, anal), and use them correctly you will not get anything lethal, and you are very unlikely to get anything at all. BBBJ and unprotected DATY are also pretty safe, and only carry a small risk of non-lethal diseases. Gonorrhea of the throat is no fun, but it definitely won't kill you, and you are very unlikely to get it.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber;1552347]Although a freebie may not have had many partners and those partners may not have seemed that bad, who really knows what universes they are connecting her, and you, with.[/QUOTE]I am a perfect example. Although I get tested often, I pretty much fuck everyone without a condom including many prostitutes (I ALWAYS get tested after doing this). And to the girls I seem like a nice guy.
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Neva Transmitted Disease?
[QUOTE=MikeNm;1552017]I am not a poster in the ISG, just a follower, but will be visiting StP this summer. I read somewhere that nearly all workers in the trade in StP have some form of STD. I find it hard to believe, but worth a question here. The Slavic women are so gorgeous! Are they less cautious, not as well informed, or is what I read total nonsense?[/QUOTE]I wonder is it the porn business you were reading about?
There was a big scare around the scene in St P last year that originated from some performers who had worked abroad and brought back disease, but I haven't heard any more about it lately.
Anyone know anything more?
Mind you, if the STDs don't get you, the local water just might...
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Water
Last trip I spent a good part of it with a rash after every shower in StPb and being awakened by itching cravings. Even had dreams of itching and scratching (and I know it was StPb water because when I went to Yaroslavl I didn't get the rash). Seems to be dependent on the location. The apartment I stayed in last time was not too far from Pulkovo, about 20 minutes by car. When I've stayed in other areas I haven't gotten the rash. Just the usual brownish water. Filling the tub one time was a disaster of grotesque proportions.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1538001]The easiest way to meet a gorgeous slavic babe is in the FKK clubs of Germany and Austria.[/QUOTE]I have seen very, very few Russian or Ukrainian girls in FKKs. I have seen mostly Romanians with a spattering of Hungarians, Bulgarians, and Poles. I guess some of them are slavic but it is not the same.
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Currently I am in Piter and I have had no luck with any numbers listed on the numerous websites. All are disconnected or were never real to begin with, which is a bloody shame. Noticed the availability of massage places is rampant but costs are no different than back home, so not sure if I will indulge. At least the museums and other sites are fantastic. I also spent my first week in Europe in FKKland and Amsterdam, so I definitely have had my itch scratched. One night in Amsterdam on the way home as well.
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StPb
Quick summary of a just completed trip to Russia. Primarily StPb, but also visited that "other" capital.
Used Airbnb to find an apartment and was very satisfied. Rented a comfortable studio for 63$ a night. Once I figured out the route, it was only abut a 10 minute (fast) walk to the nearest metro. Couple of small shops in the complex and then two very large markets a few minutes walk away. It was also on the 12th (top) floor and had a great view (with balcony). Highly recommend Airbnb for accomodations in StPb. Owners met me at the airport and helped me with the taxi to leave. It was 600 Rubles when I arrived and the owner gave me a ride, and 520 for the taxi ride back to Pulkovo at 5. 30 in the morning. Oh, and bye the way, the new terminal is sort of finished and all domestic and international flights now arrive there. It's pretty much a typical European style airport now. No more filling out immigration forms on the plane either. They are generated by a machine now after you hand the immigration officer your passport at Immigration Control.
Prearranged meetings with a few girls, including one I flew in from Siberia for 3 days, but I'll focus only on two of the three redheads I met, just to give an example of different opportunities in StPb and Russia in general. I really really like redheads, especially if they have green eyes. Unfortunately, neither of these two have green eyes.
They both also fit my preferred tall and slender body type.
Natasha short red hair is a girl I've been meeting off and on for a few years now. Met her on one of the camsites. Think it was Ruscams. Used to meet with her almost daily when we first connected, didn't meet with her at all for almost two years, but have met with her each of my last two visits. Started out as a straight cash for sex relationship. 5000 rubles, including anal and swallow, multiple rolls, but as time passed it turned into 5000 for one shot, no anal (after some meetings she finally just said 'I really don't like anal, do we have to do it? '). Now I give her 6000, though she never asked for it. She's an example of a girl I met when she was working on video sex sites, kept writing to even when she wasn't replying, and reconnected with after a long hiatus.
Natasha long red hair is an example of a Mamba girl. Frankly, when I first met her (two trips ago) we did not hit it off and I sent her home with taxi fare because she wouldn't kiss. The tattoos also bugged me, she had her hair up, and wasn't dressed sexy at all. I really think I was power searching on Mamba and completely didn't notice I wrote to her again. Needless to say, when we were chatting on Mamba after the first non-meeting I was dubious but eventually let my penis make the decision and decided to meet her again, but only after we discussed everything in detail that I wanted, including French kissing and oral w / o condom, hair down, short skirt, stockings, etc. She won't do anal and she won't swallow and she pretty much threatened to poke me in the eye if I finished in her mouth. Anyway, the second meeting she turned up with her hair loose and in the short black dress and black stockings in the photo and things worked out much better. When we made our initial agreement she was a straight 5000 Rubles, multiple (I think we agreed on two hours) contact, but we negotiated something special (involving props) and agreed on 8000. I've only met her three times now, one meeting each of my last three trips. I don't like the tattoos (she has an even bigger one on her stomach) , but love the long red hair. She does speak some English. Last time I asked, she said she was still on Mamba, but I'm not sure what her current profile is, but if you do find her I can vouch for her. I won't go into it, but she definitely has an unpredictable personality. If her mood is good she's very nice to meet. Let me also mention that finding her and a few other girls recently on Mamba has involved writing hundreds of queries. The vast majority of profiles are fake or just don't reply, but, patience can still be rewarded on Mamba.
The advice I'll offer from these two examples: if you have met a Russian girl, don't burn any bridges with her. Write her congratulations on her birthday, Women's Day, etc, even if she's informed you she's working, has a bf, etc. It's entirely possible that if you play the long game, one of your emails will catch her at a time when she wants to supplement her income, and since she already knows you, you might find yourself with the opportunity to meet her again, even after some years (Natasha Short Red Hair). If you do find a girl on Mamba you arrange to meet, make sure you are detailed in spelling out what you want for your money: how long in time or how many pops, what specifically you want in sex, including not just "kissing" but "kissing with tongue," etc. And if the girl turns up and tries to change the game plan or just doesn't look right, send her home with taxi fare. But if the initial meeting doesn't work out for superficial reasons, don't burn bridges with her either. (Natasha Long Red Hair).
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StP massage
Greetings,
I've read the forum with interest and it seems that many of the ads on Rusdosug are fake, difficult to find, etc.
Any opinions on the validity of massage salons? They even have websites, which makes me think they may be real. I've not read any reviews going back a long ways for massage, so curious if any locals have info on them.
Thanks!
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Brothels in St Pete
[URL]www.rusdosug.ru[/URL] Used this site and found a chain of 4 brothels very close to the Moscow Train station. Angelina pictured below was very nice value at 4000 RUB an hour and works at the Royal Deluxe Brothel in an apartment on Marata Street 38. Call from street and they will guide you into the large apartment on the upper floor. Thier website is [URL]www.intimspb.ru[/URL].
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Escort Site in SPB, true or fake?
I am very surprised seeing so many guys asking if this or that escort site in SPB is true or not.
I think the only way to figure it out is to find a guy to tell us his true story. Also, we can try a site by ourselves and tell people hows the site and how's the girl.
Personally I have good and bad experiences for this problem. My story tells me that a fake site never let you see girls' faces, that's because in this case, they can sell any girl to the customers (she just insists she is the right girl in picture).
Also I have checked several sites in SPB, some of them show the girls face, some girls even have a video in their profile. I think a fake working girl will never post a video in profile. My experience tells me a girl with video is always not too bad.
If anyone in this forum has experienced a escort site in SPB, please stand out and tell us.
Tomorrow I will post some relative reliable sites, in case someone want try it.
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[QUOTE=Maxlou1970;1574203][URL]www.rusdosug.ru[/URL] Used this site and found a chain of 4 brothels very close to the Moscow Train station. Angelina pictured below was very nice value at 4000 RUB an hour and works at the Royal Deluxe Brothel in an apartment on Marata Street 38. Call from street and they will guide you into the large apartment on the upper floor. Thier website is [URL]www.intimspb.ru[/URL].[/QUOTE]Funny because I think I have been fucking in that room (your last pic) a very nice girl which then I found out has been doing nice porn flics as well. I posted about her on this forum long ago. That place has a nice dining room where you can sit while they introduce to you all girls?
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Theme parties in St. Petersburg
There are lots of interesting places in our city that are impregnated with the historical atmosphere, mysteries, and preserve the names of known persons behind the thick walls of St. Petersburg buildings. You can't conceal everything. There is house in Marata Street which has long brought with itself the entire bulk of history. It attracts the newly arrived and engulfs any who ever got inside. Indeed, first it attracts with its architecture which sharply stands out against the background of the rest of the houses. Architect Stackenschneider knew how to make a house "glare" against the background of others. They started building the house in the end of the 19th century and it was immediately clear for whom and for which pleasures it would exist. Men always loitered around the house, but not everybody could get there. First it was a narrow circle of the select who were admitted only on code words only, later the notoriety spread through the city. Men had their secret place. The interiors still preserve Yesenin's talks with women he met there. He was lustful and always on the lookout for a new one. He seems to have been the most insatiable guest who frequented there. It is here that he would jump up from the sheet and write verses on the October Revolution, devoted to one of the women the poem "A Hoodlum's Love". Paper and ink were always ready for him there. He might even be there before his death and had he spent a little more time, the sense of anxiety and unrest would surely have abandoned him. Mayakovsky would lose no chance to saunter along the heavy corridors and linger in the girls' quarters as well. It is here that fate made him encounter Elza, sister of Lilya Brik's. It was between them that an easy affair arose, but Elza was satisfied with her double life and such sexual fickleness and she brought Mayakovsky and Lilya together. Although the latter nurtured a long relationship, Mayakovsky had slight affairs on the side and did not forget his favorite house in Marata Street. Turgenev in his final years of life would continue to admire "Turgenev's girls" here. Shostakovich was fond of playing the piano naked in the main hall composing new symphonies. Checkov was often seen on the balcony with just a towel on, it was easier for him, for he resided in this home and could drop in for a break. People repeatedly got acquainted, met, parted, fell in love, bantered, invariably boozed and fell into embraces, kisses. During revolutions the girls would trade their caresses and love for tinned meat. Here the reds and the whites did not see each other, for the girls put blindfolds on them as if playing. Nowadays this low-key and lesser-known place which has preserved all the atmosphere of passion and intrigue is still guarded by beautiful ladies dressed in 19th century costumes. Stained-glass sparkles on skirts, the interior prompts one to delve into each of the rooms in which many amused themselves and fell in love. Possibly the history lacks it, but we know and preserved their names in the thick guests' book such as were kept until the end of the 20th century.
8963-315-91-00.
[URL]http://www.intimspb.ru/[/URL]
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Hotels with nice escorts
Hi guys,
I'm going to Russia for the first time. Main reason: girls. I would like to know where to find hotels with escorts and where to find cheap escorts. Have you guys ever recorded sex with an escort? Are they willing to?
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St Petersburg
Ah Ivetta. Such a exquisitely written piece and evokes the memories of St Petersburg in its prime. But sometimes as a man I just want to fuck a girl. Is this also possible? Or do I need to saunter into the girls quarters handing over a pouch of roubles in return for soft caresses?
[QUOTE=Ivetta1;1594520] He was lustful and always on the lookout for a new one. He seems to have been the most insatiable guest who frequented there. It is here that he would jump up from the sheet and write verses on the October Revolution, devoted to one of the women the poem "A Hoodlum's Love". Paper and ink were always ready for him there. He might even be there before his death and had he spent a little more time, the sense of anxiety and unrest would surely have abandoned him. Mayakovsky would lose no chance to saunter along the heavy corridors and linger in the girls' quarters as well. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1594847]But sometimes as a man I just want to fuck a girl.[/QUOTE]Well said, Jonners. I imagine Anton Pavlovich probably felt the same way, and I'm sure Sergey Alexandrovich didn't give a rat's ass about the decor.
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Ivetta's Post
It's an add for salons.
If you click on the link provided in the post it will take you to a site that lists 4 salons: paradise, deluxe, grand deluxe and royal deluxe. The site also lists the girls, with, photos, including the ones in the Ivetta's post, along with their services and prices (ranging from 2500 for an hour to 7000 for 2 hours, incall or outcall). I did not see anywhere on the page where it offered an English version, but you could easily run it thru an online translator like google.
The four salons are all "themed. " And the home page lists things like a monthly drawing (for a 50% discount) and themed costume parties.
There's also a page devoted exclusively to prices which lists even more services, including the prices for lengthier meeting, etc.
Soft caresses are not listed, but you might be able to negotiate them on-site. You can play billiards. However, you can get (pay for) just about everything else listed on this forum under the "Abbreviations" link.
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Does somebody knows a good salon in St. Pita where they speak English? Post here.
Thanks
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Visit 10-13 September
I'm staying in an apartment in central St Petersburg over these dates. I have plans to try one brothel and have one outcall to the apartment. I don't speak Russian but I can read Cyrillic and can do some translation on my phone.
I am aware of the danger of bait and switch but have found several profiles with convincing reviews eg:
[URL]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi.php?service=12&id=172703[/URL]
I would love to meet up with any ex-pats or English speaking Russian punters.
Please PM me or comment in the forum.
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[QUOTE=Daffon;1609221]I'm staying in an apartment in central St Petersburg over these dates. I have plans to try one brothel and have one outcall to the apartment. I don't speak Russian but I can read Cyrillic and can do some translation on my phone.
I am aware of the danger of bait and switch but have found several profiles with convincing reviews eg:
[URL]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi.php?service=12&id=172703[/URL]
I would love to meet up with any ex-pats or English speaking Russian punters.
Please PM me or comment in the forum.[/QUOTE]If you go to club Maximus (metro Admiraletskaya, in front of 24 x7 McDonalds), some of the dancers will offer their services. You'll be able to test drive them with a private dance (low mileage) in a private room (1000 RUB) inside the club. Lots of model-style Russian girls (long legs, long hair, small cups).
I got quoted 11 k RUB for a night at my hotel by a stunning blonde, 22 k for a threesome (only the blonde was to my liking). When they saw I wasn't buying, they even offered half-price for the threesome, but I wasn't really in the mood this night.
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[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1610114]If you go to club Maximus (metro Admiraletskaya, in front of 24 x7 McDonalds), some of the dancers will offer their services. You'll be able to test drive them with a private dance (low mileage) in a private room (1000 RUB) inside the club. Lots of model-style Russian girls (long legs, long hair, small cups).
I got quoted 11 k RUB for a night at my hotel by a stunning blonde, 22 k for a threesome (only the blonde was to my liking). When they saw I wasn't buying, they even offered half-price for the threesome, but I wasn't really in the mood this night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I wasn't really thinking of a club. I usually prefer brothels where no pressure to buy drinks or dances is involved. Also, I'm not interested in lap dances. I want full service and your 11 k for a night is comparable to what indies and brothels charge. However, I am travelling with my broad minded 87 year old father and we had a very successful time in Artemis in Berlin where he was happy to just sit at the bar and enjoy the ambience whilst I took a tiny blonde to a private room. I see that entry is 1000 RUB beers are 250 RUB and a hot dish about 600 RUB. This isn't too bad. However the pictures of the dancers are disappointing. All busty heavily made up pornstar types, no willowy slavic model lookalikes which do it for me. Is it somewhere one could drop into for an hour or so just to have a drink and a bite and grab a bit of the ambience?
Daffon.
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[QUOTE=Daffon;1610684] Is it somewhere one could drop into for an hour or so just to have a drink and a bite and grab a bit of the ambience?
Daffon.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't exactly say so. When you are inside the club:
A) smoking is allowed.
B) music is going to be loud.
C) as everywhere else, Russian customers look like mafia bosses and.
D) you guys are going to be constantly bothered for tips.
So if you're on your own, that may be ok (there are definitely stunners to be found), but I wouldn't call that a relaxing way to sample the city.
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The Translator Abides or Where Art Thou Stravinsky?
Now I know what your thinking. With so much chush' appearing in the Russian threads, why would I interrupt with a report? And to be honest, I have had to pull myself together just now after reading some private messages and falling onto the floor in paroxysms of laughter (note to self, CFGs who are EFLs, in addition to their other delusional attributes, also imagine themselves to be fluent in English, which actually goes a long way in explaining why they travel to non English speaking foreign countries and try to pick up girls using English).
But I digress. Just home after a month "abroad" as they used to stay: Russia (Petersburg, the crown jewel of Eastern Europe; That other place that passes for a Russian city but is really a giant, festering boil; Tver (don't ask) and Ukraine.
Photos of one of the girls I met in Petersburg attached, Natasha Market, a Mamba girl. Donative: 5000 rubles / hr. Classic sex, BJ with no condom, sex with. She initially wanted 8000, so she will negotiate. Highly recommended if you like the tall leggy moody sociopathic schizophrenic type. She's 185 cm. And make sure you request a skirt and stockings and heels, though she might tell you to fuck off at some point if you make too many requests. 2-3 seems to be the limit (did I mention she is moody)? Asking to finish in her mouth will definitely provoke her.
The other photo is for any migraines / severe headache problems in Russia (I suffer from them habitually in that "other" Russian capital). Just upload the photo to your phone and show it to a pharmacist.
Otherwise, you can check out my reports for other girls I met previously and also in August again in Petersburg. If you think "skwiskwis" is a Russian name, however, don't even bother writing me for contact info on them. Your a mudák and should do the species a favor and never share your genetic material and risk reproducing.
Expenses. Airfare was $1600.00 roundtrip from the US (August is just about the worst time of the year to travel to Europe, as far as prices go). Rented an apartment in Petersburg for the full month ($45 a night, found on Airbnb), even though I was in the alleged southern capital for 2 nights, Tver for 2 nights and Ukraine for 8 nights. I had reserved the Petersburg apartment before I finalized my plans and didn't want to try and change the apartment booking as August is the busiest time of the year in Russia for tourists. Fortunately, I stayed with girls in their apartments in Tver and Ukraine.
As far as girls in Petersburg go, in addition to the aforementioned Natasha Market (5000), I met a couple of other girls I've known for 5 and 10 years respectively, and both received 6000 ruble donatives each time we met, and another girl I'd met 10 years ago as well, but hadn't met in the last few years, and when she turned up she had put on at least 12 kilos (2 kids later). Needless to say, the meeting didn't go well. I did troll on Mamba a few times and connected with a pair of new girls (blonde and brunette) who only meet together. The quoted donative was 8000 rubles for 2 hours. The photos they sent me of the blonde were great and I wanted to meet with her, but no, they would only meet together. Unfortunately, when they turned up (and the blonde is great looking), there had been a misunderstanding. I draw the line at covered BJs and they wouldn't do anything without a condom covering it, so I sent them away with taxi fare. However, if anyone is interested in a threesome send me a private message if your not a mudák and I'll send you their photos and contact info. There were a few other new girls from Mamba I exchanged SMS and phone calls with, but never met, for one reason or another. I'm still going back and forth with the usefulness of Mamba to find girls in Petersburg and feel pretty fortunate I have contacts I've known for years and can rely upon.
And a forewarning... I've been using my bank debit/credit card for years to withdraw money when I travel and haven't been carrying hard cash with me. Some kind of enhanced security was put in place by my credit union (and a colleague had the same experience with his, a different, bank) which resulted in my only being able to withdraw funds from one bank in Russia (after trying more than a dozen ATMs, all of which I had used as recently as May - the new security, according to my bank, went into effect June 10). I couldn't find any ATMs that would work in Ukraine and had to go into a bank and do cash withdrawals. The ATMs that worked in Petersburg belong to Sberbank. Fortunately, they are all over the place. Look for green. And no, my card would no longer work at Citibank ATMs or that big German bank ATMs with the black/gold colors. Go figure.
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...on the banks of the Neva
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1612588] I have had to pull myself together just now after reading some private messages and falling onto the floor in paroxysms of laughter[/QUOTE] Yes, but at least he had the good sense and consideration to keep it in the domain of PM and not bring it into the forum.
Thanks for your report, from that charming местечко on the banks of the Neva. :)
Did you meet Natasha in the pet store? Or did the two of you just decide to go shopping together after you met on Mamba?
Where were you in the Ukraine? I'll bet the dyeffki in the PRD aren't too concerned with condoms right now. Although I wouldn't be surprised if a fresh supply will be arriving soon with the humanitarian aid convoy.
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Help received from ISG members
Although there isn't much activity on this forum, I just wanted to acknowledge that my travel notice and request for information produced excellent helpful replies from two other members, one who was there for a weekend very recently and one who is out there now, having a great time and whom I have arranged to meet. I've since exchanged a couple of messages with each and they have been really useful.
I'm really looking forward to arriving in StP the day after tomorrow, to take advantage of their experience and hopefully to make some of my own discoveries. I will encourage them and will try myself, to report back for the benefit of others.
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I just returned from a week in Saint Petersburg, my first trip to the city. No other part of Russia I have traveled to compares to his city. It is every bit as beautiful as Paris or Venice. I also found the girls there to be also good.
I have lurked on this site long enough. Time to share this gem of a place.
I first tried xxxmassage. Ru. This is unlike any massage I have had before. The endings aren't happy. They are extraordinary. Every girl I saw there was 8 or 9 according to my taste. I gather the owner is a young university student who is recruiting her friends. Who am I to refuse them quality study time? I've never seen a staff quite like it before, though I must point out that my experience in this is somewhat thin. After several false starts with disappointing results at other times and in other places, this trip finally reminded me why we do this. 2500rub for 1 hour. I gathered an extension was possible which I would have gladly partaken in, but my Russia language skills remain inadequate and their English skills are no better. We coped as best we could and I found just following their own lesson plans worked great. I was content on her being my teacher and I, her willing pupil.
My next stop was Maximus. I am ambivalent about this place, given the 1500rub cover charge. After a very long and conflicted consideration, I had a "what the hell" moment as I have no idea if I will ever return to this city. Carpe diem. So I jumped in. Inside, there were about a dozen girls, in the 6-9 range. I don't know what it is but when I walk into these places, I have this habit of being quickly attaching to the hottest girl in a place. I'm no looker by any stretch, maybe somewhat fit for my age. But so it was, with the only 9 in the place I saw that night. She quickly went down the menu of items on offering. Everything offered in house was quite over priced. 10 min private dance 3000rub(!) ? Really? She offered "all night takeout" for 25,000rub (To her credit, it was still early in the evening so all night really was suggesting most of the night). On a fool's errand, I offered €400. She countered €500, marginally better than the original offer in local currency. Not budging. OK. I must give those Russians credit for their math skills. I doubt and hope I never pay that kind of price again. Not having done this in the country before, I was rationalizing this with the intent of market research There were no disappointments. It was a no-holds-barred experience for the record books. Non-stop. A Lamborghini-grade body, cooked to perfection by her creator. About 25 years old. No kids and had the goods to show for it. I thought it a little unusual given how common it is for 18 or 19 year old Russian women to have had a baby and marry young (if only for a few years). But the evidence was there to support her claim. The Russian experience in this recreation is unlike anything I have experienced on the other continents. They aim to please. Greyhounds and thoroughbreds are born to compete as runners. These Russian girls, obviously when they have the proper motivation and focus, are bred for bed.
My only disappointment with her was she did not stay the full night as I had expected. After 3 or 4 hours, she was on her way. All night to me means until at least the sun rises. My impression when we sealed the deal was she was taking herself offline early for the remainder of the night. If they are up for offering a little GFE, then stay for breakfast. I would never expect "all night" to mean just short time with an overtime. No reminder that we agreed on all night would convince her to remain any further than what she wanted to. She was certainly paid far above market price it seemed for the arrangement so why not deliver the full package? So what is the formal definition of "all night" ? Am I missing something? I am not one to get physical or physically restrain someone. This is not the first time this has happened. Just part of whole experience I need to tweek a bit. Comments appreciated.
One other comment I could make is on currency exchange. The ruble is on shaky ground right now, as you can imagine, due to their current conflict. As a result, I found every private exchange and bank anxious to buy my foreign hard currency at or slightly better than the prevailing rates (Yahoo Fiance, XE or Wall Street Journal rate) without any transaction fee whatsoever. I was using € cash, which turned out to be the best option as I suspect ATMs and cash advances on plastic probably wasn't getting quite the rosy rate I was getting. If I could go back, I would be curious whether the airport offerings were as good as in the city. I know, traditionally they are not but it wouldn't surprise me if the airport at present was also as good. I went all over the city during my time there and found most rates more or less the same.
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[QUOTE=Meesee;1620626]My only disappointment with her was she did not stay the full night as I had expected. After 3 or 4 hours, she was on her way. All night to me means until at least the sun rises. My impression when we sealed the deal was she was taking herself offline early for the remainder of the night. If they are up for offering a little GFE, then stay for breakfast. I would never expect "all night" to mean just short time with an overtime.
Comments appreciated.[/QUOTE]Your mistake was to make assumptions about the service.
You approached this transaction from the point of view of market research, but this is how she makes her living and I imagine she makes a good one. As you rightly pointed out, Russians are accomplished f/x traders, you will never beat them on that score. In addition, the girls you meet in the clubs are skilled negotiators, they could probably run rings around most Harvard educated lawyers when it comes to contract law. You will never beat them on that score. Throw in some drinks, loud music, colored lights and naked girls running around everywhere and the advantage is clearly on her side.
If you expect the girl to stay until sunrise, then that must be clearly stipulated in the contract. Hopefully, your legal counsel will get that signed and notarized before you leave the club. The only real control you have over the relationship is to withhold payment. Make it clear to the girl up front what you expect, and that she will not be paid until she leaves, in the morning. If she balks at that, then she's clearly just trying to scam you.
Can't help but be curious; 25,000 руб. for an uvolnyeniye is not out of line, if it's really overnight. Typically, in addition to what you pay the girl, you have to pay the club as well. Was that 25,000 руб. just for the girl? or did you pay extra to the club?
BTW - Just to bring things into perspective, for what you paid for that 2 or 3 hour session, you could have spent the whole weekend in Tijuana.
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Bridges cross the Neva are your friend
Of course the other way to make sure she stays until sunrise in piter is to make sure you live on the opposite side of the bridges to where she lives (and before anyone points out I do know there is one bridge on the outskirts you can always take over the Neva).
More seriously I think the girl might not have been trying to rip you off what she meant by all night was upto the point that she would normally work to in the club. In my experience a lot of the girls live with parents or room mates and coming home at 2 doesn't raise any questions but 6 am in the morning is a different matter. There are of course girls who don't care but you won't know until she leaves).
As strav says 25 k isn't a bad price (although spb is cheaper than Moscow) I would expect to pay 12-15 k for a top girl for 4 hours or so in a banya when she knows she will see me again. Although I can't say for strippers would expect them to be more expensive.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1621286]If you expect the girl to stay until sunrise, then that must be clearly stipulated in the contract. Hopefully, your legal counsel will get that signed and notarized before you leave the club. The only real control you have over the relationship is to withhold payment. Make it clear to the girl up front what you expect, and that she will not be paid until she leaves, in the morning. If she balks at that, then she's clearly just trying to scam you.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1621286]
BTW - Just to bring things into perspective, for what you paid for that 2 or 3 hour session, you could have spent the whole weekend in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It's apples and oranges tho. My impression of the nature of the service and stock in Europe vs east Asia vs Tijuana vs other parts of North America to be very different.
I recall the original negotiation involved staying until sunrise. I am finding no matter where I am, when they're ready to head back to the club for another spin, there isn't much you can do to stop them. They have their mind made up.
I believe the beauty I found has a set amount of rubles per hour she expects for her services. So whatever price is negotiated at the front, that sets the exact time duration once we get started. I seem to find out at the end what that duration is, based on what I've paid for.
They're astute mathematicians and know what their sales goal is for the night and intend to hold to that. All are in the business for a set period fo time (one year, or two years...) with the intention of building up a windfall they can go buy a home or financial goal in the future when they are finished.
I'm reaching the point where I will look for LT only with someone I have been with before that I can trust. On the initial contact, short term will do and that's what I'll pay for.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1621357]Of course the other way to make sure she stays until sunrise in piter is to make sure you live on the opposite side of the bridges to where she lives (and before anyone points out I do know there is one bridge on the outskirts you can always take over the Neva).
[/QUOTE]Are the bridges closed at night?
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Bridges
Most of the bridges close to traffic at night and stay closed to traffic for a while to allow shipping to pass. The time they close and how long they stay close varies, not quite bridge to bridge, but almost. You can google it and get a schedule. The schedule changes during the year as well. Bye the way, this is an issue because all Petersburg public transportation stops around 00.30 or so and starts again around 05.00 or so, depending on the metro / route, so there is a 4-5 hour window in the city where the only transportation is by private car or taxi or your own reliable feet. And never, ever, walk late at night in Petersburg alone and / or drunk, on any street but a main street and don't even do that when there has been a football game (in other words, don't take that short cut thru the little parks you discovered- it will be full of drunk Russians at night and there's no telling their moods).
Every girl in StPb knows about the bridges and the 'oops, the bridge is closed now ploy' is about as cunning a ploy as the 'oops looks like I ran out of gas' one. If they stay longer than the bridge openings it's because they want to stay or they expect you to foot the bill for the more expensive taxi home (since it will have to go over the probably out of the way bridge that isn't closed to traffic) or they expect to stay at the club / cafe with you paying until after the bridges are open to cars again. And so the reverse is also true:
CFG: Look time. See watch? Watch say bridges no work. Rabota nyet. Nyet taxi. Go my flat? Doma. (points to self).
Girl: We are having soooooooo much fun here, CFG. Let's stay. And buy us some more champagne. Oh and look! How lucky! There are 5 of my friends. Can you be a sweetie and buy them drinks toooooo?
Bridges are an issue for tourists, not for residents of Petersburg, so don't even think you are going to use them to leverage your prey into your bed, unless she's already decided to go there and just wants you to think your cunning.
The bridge openings are also the sites of festivities, especially during White Nights; pretty much every night except during the coldest days of winter you can find ships waiting to take people out to party and celebrate the bridges opening. People, tourists and residents, will also gather by the banks of the Neva to watch them open from the shore.
[QUOTE=Meesee;1623599]Are the bridges closed at night?[/QUOTE]
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Bridges
I don't agree that the bridges are issues just for tourists. Its quite easy for an spb girl to get the timings of the bridges wrong and end up on the wrong side of the river. It has happened to me more than once that is why I mentioned it. Just because it hasn't happened to you skwiskwis doesn't mean it doesn't. Not all the girls in spb are there to get as much money out of foreigners as possible and the taxi is very expensive so they look for a cafe or will come back to yours. One instance I remember was in the evening of alie parusa s couple of years ago when my girlfriend at the time was in the process of splitting up with me. It hadn't been a very pleasant evening and then she missed the bridges so we went to a cafe until the metro started again. I can assure you that our time in the cafe was no better and I really would have preferred that she hasn't forgotten the bridges.
I've also had girls who come into spb from a long way outside spb by bus so if they miss their last bus they need somewhere to stay and other girls who are on the right side of the river and miss the last metro the same thing. Of course 'professional' girls always demand a taxi.
Just for info there is also an app for the bridges opening and closing time. As is there an app for spb traffic jams which is particularly useful.
As for walking in spb I have never had any problems even after a spartak game but I can understand why there could be problems. It does tend to be pretty obvious to avoid parks at night and even during the day when you see groups of alcoholic russian guys and gals hunched over their bottles of vodka. Another warning would be some of the 'taxis' outside clubs I have had it in the past when I have agreed a fee then they have taken me on a tour of spb and demanded an increase when they arrived at my flat. My russian is good enough I can argue with them although I wouldn't recommend it. Also I have had problems in the past with licensed taxis going between apartments booked by Oksanas where they charged me 3 x the going rate and the girl from Oksanas just stood there like a plum while I had to argue myself with the taxi driver. This is one of the reasons I would never use Oksanas now. Besides it being incredibly expensive.
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1623632] Bridges are an issue for tourists, not for residents of Petersburg, so don't even think you are going to use them to leverage your prey into your bed, unless she's already decided to go there and just wants you to think your cunning[/QUOTE]
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Oderzhymyie v Peterburge!
[QUOTE=Jonners;1623982]It has happened to me more than once ... when my girlfriend at the time was in the process of splitting up with me... she missed the bridges... [/QUOTE]Forewarned is forearmed dear readers. When your Petersburg girlfriend (s) want (s) to split up with (dump)(break up with) you she (they) will need a lot (hours) of time to tell you the reason (s) and if your meeting at night she (they) will become so preoccupied (obsessed)(possessed)(haunted) with telling you why she (they) is (are) dumping (breaking up with)(splitting up with) you that she (they) (it) will forget about the bridge schedules.
The Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 3: don't break up in Petersburg!
Rule 4: only two people to a break up!
Rule 5: one break up at a time!
Rule 6: break up in the morning!
Rule 7: breaking up will go on as long as it has to!
Rule 8: if this is your first possession RUN!
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Our own pavel volya
Is this meant to be humor? If so it is very strange. Maybe a better example of a girl missing the bridges opening times would be her getting drunk and forgetting, this happens a lot (dear readers!). The girl in question in my example did not miss the bridges because she had split up with me, she missed it because she simply forgot. But it made for a very frosty 4 hours as we drank our tea. She wouldn't accept taxi fare and I was too much of a gentleman to leave her on her own.
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1624101]Forewarned is forearmed dear readers. When your Petersburg girlfriend (s) want (s) to split up with (dump)(break up with) you she (they) will need a lot (hours) of time to tell you the reason (s) and if your meeting at night she (they) will become so preoccupied (obsessed)(possessed)(haunted) with telling you why she (they) is (are) dumping (breaking up with)(splitting up with) you that she (they) (it) will forget about the bridge schedules.[/QUOTE]
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Das Unheimliche (prichudlivyi) in Petersburg
[QUOTE=Jonners;1624113]... my girlfriend at the time was in the process of splitting up with me ... I was too much of a gentleman...[/QUOTE]The Rules of Petersburg (and for all mongers, I dare say!
Rule 9: Never be too much of a gentleman!
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Prostak v pitere
Yes I doubt any women would ever say it about you skwiskwis.
Lastly why are you using adjectives where you should be using nouns when you write in russian?
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1624153]The Rules of Petersburg (and for all mongers, I dare say!
Rule 9: Never be too much of a gentleman![/QUOTE]
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A bridge too far?
You guys crack me up. Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? If someone wants to know what they mean, they can just cut and paste them into an online translator.
What are you trying to accomplish with these silly Romanizations of Russian words?
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I would prefer to use the Cyrillic but unfortunately I don't know how. I wrote in Cyrillic yesterday and the forum put in meaningless numbers so I had to edit it in Roman.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1624217]You guys crack me up. Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? If someone wants to know what they mean, they can just cut and paste them into an online translator.
What are you trying to accomplish with these silly Romanizations of Russian words?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1624329]I would prefer to use the Cyrillic but unfortunately I don't know how. I wrote in Cyrillic yesterday and the forum put in meaningless numbers so I had to edit it in Roman.[/QUOTE]It's true, Jackson has the text editor configured to thwart the use of non-Roman characters, but there is a workaround.
The text editor only filters characters when you upload your report, but not when you edit it. So this is the process:
1) Write your report just as you want it to look, Cyrillic characters included.
2) Copy the text of your report.
3) Upload your report.
4) Edit your report after it has uploaded.
5) Delete the text in your uploaded report, with all the gibberish.
6) Paste the text of your original report into the editor.
7) Save your edited report, you should see the Cyrillic characters once it's been updated.
NB: If you write more than one word, or a short phrase, make sure to include a translation of the Russian Cyrillic [i]in English[/i], this is our offering to the Admin Gods to keep them happy.
I always run the Russian text through an online translator first, just to make sure that the result will make sense, in English, just in case someone wants to run it through a translator to see for themselves. So you might want to avoid expressions like, you know... Я вам покажу кузькину мать. :)
счастливо
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Ja probudilsja ot bespokojnogo sna I obnaruzhil sebja slishkom dzhentel'menom.
Sprosil I otvetil.
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1624558]Why don't you just write the Russian words in Cyrillic? So this is the process:
[/QUOTE]Photo below is of a girl I met in Petersburg on Mamba a year ago, but who moved to Tver. Met her again for a week this month in Petersburg. Offered to buy her a train ticket, as I was a gentleman, but she insisted on taking the Bus (this is a plot point, by the way). Now I know what your thinking, looking at her photo: she's only a 4/5, but you will just have to take my word for it that she looks better in person. So you can stop reading here if you like: duration: 1 week; Presents (since I was a gentleman), perfume, chocolates, and something she chose from Victorias Secret; cash donative: $1000. Oral with no condom. Classic with. Anal: 'Do I look like I want to have a bowl movement during sex?' (that's a poetic translation of what she said); Handcuffs: only after a bottle of wine and two shots of tequila, with Rammstein playing. Oh, and the cost of her bus tickets, which I can't even remember, but they weren't expensive. Airfare from the US was around $1000.00; apartment was $50 a night. Taxi from Pulkovo was 400 rubles each way.
So, if your still reading, here's the really interesting part. When I met her, she turned up with her best friend, who was arriving to meet some guy she met on the internet. The guy met them with a friend (I was late), and they were all waiting for me, chatting, when I arrived. And then, even though I had a taxi, the guy insisted on giving us a ride to the apartment I rented (on Airbnb) (another plot point, by the way). We took the taxi, but I noticed the guy followed us in his car. Jump to the next day, we are still in bed (I had not been much of a gentleman, unless handcuffing the girl your with to the bedpost qualifies in Russia as gentlemanly. Just might, come to think of it.), it's around 11.30 AM, and there is furious bleeping on the buzzer downstairs. The guy and Natasha Pink Hairs best friend have turned up, and the guy, so much the gentleman, wants to take us all to lunch. His idea of a gentlemanly lunch is Pizza Hut. Now the girl I am with, of course, wants to talk to her friend and hear about her meeting with internet guy, so, of course, being a gentleman, we go. And, internet guy, the gentleman he is, buys us all pizza. After a while I hit the toilet, return, and find the two girls talking, internet guy nowhere to be seen. He's off running some errand, I'm told. We wait. And wait. An hour goes by, and then internet guys friend, also too much a gentleman, turns up, with a suitcase. The suitcase of Natasha Pink Hairs best friend. It turns out internet guy didn't like Natasha Pink Hairs friend, and was ever so gentlemanly letting her know she could stay somewhere else, via a proxy of course, since real gentleman don't dump girls in person in Petersburg. And so, now at the table, the three of us are all quiet, not wanting to say anything, because in such a situation anything spoken would make it worse. Even coughing could make it worse. Eye contact. You get the picture? Being a gentleman, however, once the silence becomes maddening, I suggest we go to a cafe and have a drink. Or 20.
Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 10: Never go to Pizza Hut.
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Yak she mash, kolega! Dobshe, bardzo dobshe, dzienkuye!
Hey, it's all Greek to me (so to speak).
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1624602]Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you weren't balls-deep in her шоколадный глаз (chocolate eye)! Так жалко (so sad)
Thanks for the report about your week with Natasha Pink Hairs. Seems a little pricey: $1,000 USD cash, plus gifts, plus bus/train fare, plus, plus... Боже мой (my God) forget about TJ, I could fly to Vegas for the weekend with all that.
At least you got some free pizza. :)
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Woof woof. Not all russian girls are beautiful.
I'm guessing you paid for the pizza and the drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 11: Remember Russian girls can spot a walking wallet a mile away.
For someone who has been openly critical of the standard of girls other members have slept with, your girls really aren't very hot. If you had paid $1500 for the week could you have got a 6? If a guy left Natasha's friend in a restaurant and you haven't posted a picture of her she must be even worse than Natasha.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 12: Only kick other members if you can walk-the-walk.
Stav. Thank you for describing how to post in Cyrillic. I will in future use this if I post in Russian. I do tend to try not to post in Russian though as I think certain members use it to try and look more intelligent than they really are.
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1624602]
Now, since, even with the handcuffs, I'm obviously too much the gentleman, you already know what happened after we finished our drinks.
Rules of Petersburg.
Rule 10: Never go to Pizza Hut.[/QUOTE]
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Obozhayu blinchiki
Dear Readers;.
Since I can tell you really, really, really, really want to see what Natasha Pinks friend looks like (and you asked so very very nicely, just like true gentlemen!
Addendum: The alleged Southern Capital has proposed banning Skype phone calls in Russia.
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Very nice, can't imagine why the internet gentleman would have left her behind. Does she have an obnoxious personality? Did she demand Anchovies [B]and[/B] Pepperoni?
I'm assuming that since you were able to talk her out of her clothes for the photo, that you were also able to talk her into bed. Was this a 2-for-1 deal?
BTW--Why does Natasha Pink Hairs not have any, you know... pink hairs?
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Esli Vy nastaivaete!
[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1624969]Does she have an obnoxious personality? Did she demand Anchovies [B]and[/B] Pepperoni?
[/QUOTE]Now I know what you are all thinking, dear readers: why would a Russian internet guy boot out a solid "5. " Pink hairs friend is a solid "5. " She would easily be a "6" if she had more leg. Or worked out a bit and rounded her backside. So a solid "5. ".
But now I am compelled to include a rule as a warning, before continuing:
Rules of Petersburg:
Rule 11: In Petersburg, when a guy mentions he's into metal, he may or may not be referring to music.
Please keep in mind, my Russian is poor, very poor, and while I can chat a bit with friends and colleagues, participate in the endless jokes about the alleged Southern Capital, and more or less "get to and from the toilet," Pink Hairs friends explanation (she speaks no English) as to why internet guy had his bro bring her suitcase to Pizza Hut was in Russian and with words and expressions I had never heard before (and, frankly, never want to hear again). And this conversation occurred after drinks. A lot of drinks. Drinks at a cafe. Drinks continuing at the apartment I rented. Wine. Shots of tequila. JD. It even reached the point where we had to call a "private" source and have more alcohol delivered to us via a guy with bottles of duty free bought alcohol in the trunk of his car (you can't buy hard booze in Russia after 11 pm or some such). So I'll repeat what I understand Pink's friend was saying, but, ya know, I might have missed or messed up some of the details. And she was very drunk the night before when she was with Internet Guy, and she wasn't sure if everything happened or was said or might have been what she was thinking at the time. But the climax, pun intended, will have to wait for when next we meet, dear readers.
To be cont, but only if you really, really, really, really want to know.
Teaser: metal and either oral or vaginal sex, I'm still not clear on the orifice, a marijuana crop, shots of some god awful liquor like drink from Internet Guys rural home, laughter, a lot of laughter, hysterical laughter, and three exclamations that, as best as I can manage, translate as "Wait, help me look on the floor, I think I lost a filling! And "Fuck no! That isn't going inside of me even if hell freezes over" and finally something having to do with Internet Guys mother and which species she belonged to (and well, in Russia, that's a line you don't want to cross).
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Some advice please
Hello everyone!
New guy here, just wanted to say I was going to St. Petersburg again in the coming month and I wanted to ask if anybody had any advice on where to get girls without getting robbed (literally or figuratively). Also, what decent 5-star hotel should I stay at so as to not run into any trouble with the hotel when I bring over a girl (girl-friendly hotel)? Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Update on bars
I am travelling more to Moscow than St. Peter, so I would need some recent information. In the old time I was going to Tribunal and Mahgrib Disco.
On my last visit I was running around Nevsky and go home alone, because both bars had been closed.
Where are the places in St. Peter like for Nigthflight in Moscow??
I have scrolled to all the actual reports, but I have found nothing. I don t like escort service or brothels.
I will stay in St. Peter on Monday and Tuesday, not on the weekend.
Thank you for your help.
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Caveat emptor
"Evgenia" is looking for a sponsor. A couple of photos below. This is not an endorsement. I've never met her. I corresponded with her, received some photos from her, but when she gave me her "condition" for the initial meeting I passed: 400 E for the first meeting (all night), classic and oral. If anyone wants to try their hand with her message me and I'll send you her contact details.
It bears repeating: I have not met her.
And on the sideshow of a sideshow that is Putin's Russia, a new immigration form was handed out on the plane to StPb (from Amsterdam). No one, however, accepted the form at immigration, or anywhere else for that matter.
And be forewarned of a price hike: metro tokens will be going up 1 Jan by almost 11%! From 28 rubles to 31 rubles. Moscow is announcing 10% inflation by Jan 1, the ruble has lost approximately 50% of its value in the last year, AND metro tokens are going up: Public transportation is not a mirror held up to society, but a hammer with which to shape it!
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Ménage à trois
Here's another StPb girl I've negotiated with, but have not met because of economics.
400 $ for a meeting (not all night). Classic, oral (uncovered), anal.
She also offered to have sex with two (males) for 700 $.
Worth repeating: I have not met her (these are photos she sent me).
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1662099]Public transportation is not a mirror held up to society, but a hammer with which to shape it![/QUOTE]пролетарии всех стран... (workers of the world)
Where do you find these women online? Is it VK? Mamba?
The blonde is a hefty li'l heifer. Does she charge by the pound, I wonder?
OK, so it's $0.528379 USD to ride the metro in Russia. It's still a bargain, compared to $2.75 for a single ride on the NYC subway. Of course, in NYC, you can catch a subway train at 03:00 and still have time to make it in to work the next morning.
I wonder, if I paid Evgenia 400 Euro for the night, do you think she would ride the Metro with me? I would be willing to pay, of course. :)
с наступающим новым годом (with the coming New Year)
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Regarding the blond and else
I have a few more photos of the blonde in which she does not look as willowy challenged. And I did impolitely ask her about, what appeared to me, to be photos showing her with ample thighs and an amble ass, and she assured me the photos didn't show her true figure and in fact she'd worked as a model and had been a dancer (and yes, it did occur to me to ask if she meant "large sizes model," but I didn't ask, since her price was to high for me regardless of how she looked).
Again, I didn't meet her and just as photos can sometimes show girls to be more attractive than they are, the opposite is also true.
Else. Been in StPb two weeks now. The going rate for girls on Mamba that use the local currency is still around 6000 rubles, give or take, with a top girl you find on Mamba, for example, asking 15 k rubles or 20 k rubles. So the prices are the same, as I recall, but the exchange rate is much better.
And it may be a sign of the times, or it may just be the luck of the draw, but I have found Mamba girls, for example, much more aggressive this trip. I have had more answer me and the couple I've met have written me afterwards asking for additional meetings and a couple I negotiated with writing me and asking when we will meet. It might be the time of the year and it might be the economic problems and it might be both, or it might be just luck of the draw. Time will tell. The ruble is on a downward course again today, back up above 58 (dollar) at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1662425] Been in StPb two weeks now. [/QUOTE]I envy you, meeting the New Year along the banks of the Neva. Take some pictures and let us see what it looks like.
Так уносились мы мечтой
К началу жизни молодой.
So carried away are we by a dream
To the beginning of young life.
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St. Petersburg vs. Manila
Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
Aibolit
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1662827]Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4 P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao! Aibolit.[/QUOTE]Quite a dilemma eh?
Maybe your decision will just fall on what you are more horny for this season. I agree, long pair a legs do well for me, but maybe you will chance at finding that rare pair in manilla.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1662418]пролетарии всех стран... (workers of the world)
Where do you find these women online? Is it VK? Mamba?
The blonde is a hefty li'l heifer. Does she charge by the pound, I wonder?
OK, so it's $0.528379 USD to ride the metro in Russia. It's still a bargain, compared to $2.75 for a single ride on the NYC subway. Of course, in NYC, you can catch a subway train at 03:00 and still have time to make it in to work the next morning.
I wonder, if I paid Evgenia 400 Euro for the night, do you think she would ride the Metro with me? I would be willing to pay, of course. :)
с наступающим новым годом (with the coming New Year)[/QUOTE]'does she charge bt the pound'.
LOL.
Meany, I noticed her thick thighs before scrolling to your commemt. Glad it wasnt just me who saw some heft but you said it not I heh.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1624995]Wow. I recognise this 'girl' - I found a picture of her from another angle. I think it may explain why she was left in the pizza restaurant.[/QUOTE]Lina cavalli? Can't read the script much to see the name is she famous?, her bod aint bad lookin and a model like face I'd say, quite astiffy though.
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Toto, you menja chuvstvo, chto my bol'she ne v Kansas
Just returned home (USA) after a month of travels that included Russia (mostly Petersburg, but also, unfortunately, that arm-pit of a city that claims to be the southern capital). Attached are some photos of a few of the Russian girls I met. Donatives were the same as recent visits for 1-2 hours and, if in rubles, were much cheaper in dollars given the sorrows of the ruble recently. I paid between 6000 - 10000 rubles for 1-2 hour meetings and 8000 for all night with one girl I've met many times previously, though I found that after meeting one 10000 ruble girl for the first time (1-2 hours) she agreed to 8000 + taxi fare for a second meeting. Must be my price reducing charm. I did fly one girl to Petersburg from another city in a different, more expensive, arrangement. And if I enjoyed the time spent with a girl I did give her more than the agreed price.
Just an impression, but I think that if you visit Russia, meet a girl for the first time, and things go well, and you make it clear you'd like to meet her again, perhaps even meet a few times more, you can easily negotiate lower prices. It's certainly always been that way with the right girls, but, given the current economic doldrums I think there's a lot more incentive for girls, even the semi-pros who were previously "this isn't a negotiation, pay my price or not" girls, to try and have regulars rather than rely on meeting new guys every day or week or whatever, particularly since average Russian guys aren't going to pay more. It occurred to me to add this digression because I can't remember ever having so many girls call or SMS me before, after a initial meeting, inquiring about when we could meet again or having so many girls I'd contacted, but not met yet, pester me with calls and messages asking when we were going to meet.
I also think there's an odd dynamic in play right now in Russia, involving a lot of anger at the West, and the US in particular. This may only get worse.
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Тото, у меня чувство, что мы больше не в Канзасе! (Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.)
Nice pix, the popa on the blonde is choice!
Still waiting to see your новогодны фотки (New Year's photos)
[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1668968]It occurred to me to add this digression because I can't remember ever having so many girls call or SMS me before, after a initial meeting, inquiring about when we could meet again or having so many girls I'd contacted, but not met yet, pester me with calls and messages asking when we were going to meet.[/QUOTE]How are you meeting the girls; mamba? VK? Odnoklassniki?
[QUOTE]I also think there's an odd dynamic in play right now in Russia, involving a lot of anger at the West, and the US in particular. This may only get worse.[/QUOTE]
Interesting... the intel I have says exactly the opposite. But then, that's mainly from Moscow. It could just be a matter of perspective; if you spend your days living in a quaint little местечко on the banks of the Neva, your outlook on life is bound to be more provincial and parochial. :)
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"Winter is nature's way of saying, 'Up yours!"
Dorogie sootechestvenniki! Rad soobshhit' vam, chto ja tol'ko chto podpisal dokument, kotoryj navsegda stavit Rossiju vne zakona. Bombardirovka nachnetsja cherez pjat' minut.
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1670472]Дорогие соотечественники! (Dear compatriots!) [/QUOTE]Nice!
The daylight photos were probably taken around noon, I'm guessing.
Is this the same blondinka with the choice popa?
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Any website with real photos?
Hi guys. Any website I can fully trust? I've been in Budapest last summer and spent 200 euros on 2 fake girls. That was a pity. Until I found a good website where I got today satisfaction there. Anything in Moscow and St Petersburg? Will be there in a week.
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[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1671852]Nice!
The daylight photos were probably taken around noon, I'm guessing.
Is this the same blondinka with the choice popa?[/QUOTE]Different girl.
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[QUOTE=KeepItBurnin;1672193]Hi guys. Any website I can fully trust? I've been in Budapest last summer and spent 200 euros on 2 fake girls. That was a pity. Until I found a good website where I got today satisfaction there. Anything in Moscow and St Petersburg? Will be there in a week.[/QUOTE]Hello. I offer you to visit I-spa saloon. It is erotic massage saloon, all photos on site are REAL, just as interior photos. Site I-Spa. Su.
To check girls visit [URL]http://i-spa.su/girls[/URL].
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[QUOTE=ISpaMan;1680401]Hello. I offer you to visit I-spa saloon. It is erotic massage saloon, all photos on site are REAL, just as interior photos. Site I-Spa. Su.
To check girls visit [URL]http://i-spa.su/girls[/URL].[/QUOTE]So are these prices to rubles? No up charge for foreigners?
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Being prepared for hostilities
I am from Finland and want to say something about my very short time in Russia.
I was recently in St. Petersburg with an old American friend. After vising a local strip-club we went for a drink in a bar known to have WGs.
We were just chilling and enjoying our drink when to girls came after a small eye contact from the distance. We started to talk to them but only one spoke English.
(I tried my best with my bad Russian). The blondika who didn't speak English and was the best looking said in Russian "she does not like Americans" and started to become aggressive.
I simply didn't get what is going on. The brunetki started to excuse for her strange behavior saying that she has relatives in Donbass etc. But the mood was already gone.
Very unpleasant experience. In the next bar he started to claim to be an Australian. What is wrong with this bizarre world?
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[QUOTE=Benargen;1683140]So are these prices to rubles? No up charge for foreigners?[/QUOTE]In USD standart programm is about 60 $ or 55 euro. This programm contains 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of eriotic massage. Also we have cheap "test" programm, it contains 30 minutes of tea ceremony and 30 minutes of erotic massage and costs about 40 $ or 35 euros.
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[QUOTE=PekkaTampere;1684868]I am from Finland and want to say something about my very short time in Russia.
I was recently in St. Petersburg with an old American friend. After vising a local strip-club we went for a drink in a bar known to have WGs.
We were just chilling and enjoying our drink when to girls came after a small eye contact from the distance. We started to talk to them but only one spoke English.
(I tried my best with my bad Russian). The blondika who didn't speak English and was the best looking said in Russian "she does not like Americans" and started to become aggressive.
I simply didn't get what is going on. The brunetki started to excuse for her strange behavior saying that she has relatives in Donbass etc. But the mood was already gone.
Very unpleasant experience. In the next bar he started to claim to be an Australian. What is wrong with this bizarre world?[/QUOTE]Actually it is weird. In news on tv our goverment "helping us to see" that everything what happend was provoked by americans. It explains their mood a bit, but "not stupidest" of us (Russians) understands that all of this military accidents do not depends of a ordinary americans.
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[QUOTE=ISpaMan;1684915]In USD standart programm is about 60 $ or 55 euro. This programm contains 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of eriotic massage. Also we have cheap "test" programm, it contains 30 minutes of tea ceremony and 30 minutes of erotic massage and costs about 40 $ or 35 euros.[/QUOTE]So these prices are for handjobs and nibbling but not blowjobs or sex? At least that is the understanding I'm getting from your website.
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[QUOTE=Benargen;1685056]So these prices are for handjobs and nibbling but not blowjobs or sex? At least that is the understanding I'm getting from your website.[/QUOTE]Almost. It's not usual handjob. For this money you will have 30 minutes of classic massage and 30 minutes of erotic massage. If with classic everything is clear, then I should say more about erotic part. Erotic massage is whole program with a lot of movements. First of all girl asks you to lay on your back and than she will start to slide on your body by her ass, breast and arms. When you will be "ready" to proceed she starts imitation part. Imitation of sex. In imitation there is a lot of positions, but it is better than sex. Some times (most often with tourists) our guests are becoming scared. They thinking that it is real sex without a condom. In imitations our girl using everything, except their mouth and vagina. It is really great thing. Feels and looks like real sex with beauty girl, real pleasure and absolutely safe because of absence of "contact"!
I like this kind of relax much more than prostitution. What prostitution is? Girl making you "hard" by blow job (your dick will be hard and no matter do you want this girl or not), than you put your dick in girl, shaking a little and that's it. Feels like went out of water closet: feels unloaded, but no emotion.
In massage everything is a little different. After pretty good relax (classic part) you already "closer" to girl and in first part of erotic massage you already want this girl. First part of erotic is some kind of teasing. And at the end you will get what you already desiring! Incredible feelings! When you will leave this place. It feels like you are younger for few years) Amazing thing. Ant that is simplest program. Also there is a programs in hydro massage pool, sauna, massages with warm stones. We have nuru massage. Very interesting thing: in erotic part girl uses nuru gel instead of coconut oil. Nuru gel have a toning effect. During imitation part it is amazing feelings "there"! It is hot and passionate, but also fresh coolness the same time. Very weird and cool thing.
Check it, you will not be disappointed, I promise).
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Petersburg vs. Manila
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1662827]Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition....
Aibolit[/QUOTE]I can only say that I agree with your analysis, I think it is spot on. That is not so helpful, because it means I am not sure what to recommend. It depends on what you want. Personally I would go for Philippines. Because in addition to what you note, I like short girls and ultra-soft, sweet tasting Asian pussy.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1662827]Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg. Just as a background, I like young (18-25) slim girls, fresh face, bubbly personality, total GFE (prefer non-pros or freebies that don't ask for donation, but may hope for one). Here are the pros and cons, as I see them:
Manila: PROS. Exotic warm place, very cheap girls, plenty non-pro GFEs (BIG plus in my book), speak English, often just happy to be treated nicely and stay with the foreigner. Great place to try an authentic girlfriend experience, without the crude P2 P component. Finally, one can find freebies on free dating sights. On these sites, you can chat the girls up and pretty much agree that she'll stay with you at your hotel when you come. They expect it. CONS: long and expensive flight.
St. Petersburg: PROS. Gorgeous slavic girls, long thin legs, beautiful city, museums. CONS. Cold, girls are expensive, most (if not all) are crude P2 P proposition.
I suspect that there isn't a way to secure dates with St. Petersburg girls in the same way one can with Manila girls. Mamba, so I hear, is P4P mostly. I guess that if Manila-style dates would be possible to arrange from afar (I can manage in Russian somehow), I would have ventured into Russia, in spite of the cold and high girl prices.
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
Aibolit[/QUOTE]St. Pete offers cheap p4 p options but for freebies I think not easy. 5 times harder than Manila especially if you don't have a European look. Also the city is small. Not as funny as Manila but it is definitely more safe than Manila.
I would choose Manila. But you can think about Vladivostok.
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I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.
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Well put
[QUOTE=Aibolit;1662827]
Any feedback from the esteemed members here will be greatly appreciated. Ciao!
[/QUOTE]Hi Aibolit.
I've been in both cities myself and well, I can agree with you on that comparison.
Plus, in general if I have to choose between a too hot place and a too cold place (I am talking about weather here, lets not get confused).
I would choose the warmer option. Besides the temperature, both are close to water and thus quite humid sometimes, which makes the winter in Peter very unpleasant IMO.
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[QUOTE=McAnt;1692103]I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.[/QUOTE]I have sent an PM to person who posted this review. Anyway It looks to be only HJ, CBJ type of place. I am spoiled monger because of Thailand trips so was looking for Full Service massage places.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;1691793]St. Pete offers cheap p4 p options but for freebies I think not easy. 5 times harder than Manila especially if you don't have a European look. Also the city is small. Not as funny as Manila but it is definitely more safe than Manila.
I would choose Manila. But you can think about Vladivostok.[/QUOTE]What about Vladivostok, bro? Is it easier to get girls there?
Because I can't find Vladivsotok in this forum.
Thank you.
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Sinking costs in Petersburg
I have two questions:
1. Is the reduced value of rouble is bringing down costs of girls in Petersburg?
2. Is also a bit less demand from local mongers due to the decline of the economy?
As far as I can see from sites like rusdosug prices seem to be the same in roubles as they were 1 and 2 years ago, and are thus significantly lower in USD and to some extent EUR. Replies are much appreciated.
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XM massage
[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1693128]I have sent an PM to person who posted this review. Anyway It looks to be only HJ, CBJ type of place. I am spoiled monger because of Thailand trips so was looking for Full Service massage places.[/QUOTE]I've visited twice the XM place on Bolshaya Pushkarskaya 42, and both times was very happy. I was staying at the Vvedenskiy Hotel and it's 5 minutes walk from there.
Both times I've got BBBJ and CIM for a small extra with 2 different girls, so this seams to be on the menu of all girls. But they don't seam to provide full service.
The massage itself was OK, though not professional (and I wouldn't expect that in such a place). The girls I've seen were all very nice, no one a 9 or 10, but most 6-8 and all young.
The place is clean and the atmosphere is very relaxed. Overall a very good experience and I plan to visit them again on the next trip.
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Someone knows any good trustable independent escorts here in Saint Petersburg?
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[QUOTE=Jonathan988;1697729]Someone knows any good trustable independent escorts here in Saint Petersburg?[/QUOTE]I landed yesterday afternoon and so far my experience is very similar to Moscow and Budapest. If you don't speak the language, it's pretty much impossible to get an independent off one of the reputable site to respond to you. Same goes all the major Salons here as they don't speak english. Since I don't have a guide here like I did for girls in Budapest, I'll have the concierge arrange a car to one of the salons, or possibly test his network of local working girls for a visit to my room. If anyone has local contacts I would be incredibly grateful.
Best.
Drama.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber;1696190]I have two questions:
1. Is the reduced value of rouble is bringing down costs of girls in Petersburg?
2. Is also a bit less demand from local mongers due to the decline of the economy?
As far as I can see from sites like rusdosug prices seem to be the same in roubles as they were 1 and 2 years ago, and are thus significantly lower in USD and to some extent EUR. Replies are much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Answering:
1. Yes it is. Rouble costs less, but prices the same (not everywhere).
2. Seems like the same.
If you will pay in USD or EUR, it will be cheaper twice. Before rouble falls it costs 29-30 rur /1 dollar. Now it is 60-66 rur /1 dollar.
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Want to ask you one thing.
We have one guy (he is a guide) who pretty often brings a tourists to us to massage. I spent a lot of time when was looking for same guides and found nothing.
Don't you know where I can find somebody like him? Tourists finding them somehow.
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brokerage
[QUOTE=ISpaMan;1700570]Want to ask you one thing.
We have one guy (he is a guide) who pretty often brings a tourists to us to massage. I spent a lot of time when was looking for same guides and found nothing.
Don't you know where I can find somebody like him? Tourists finding them somehow.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Did he do it for free or za platu?
I think your tourists should start reading forums like this one here, then they don't need a guide to begin with.
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Of course "za plata" But same time it is better to pay some more money and come in trusted place with one of the best service instead of visiting cheap rat hole. I think you will agree. It is reasonable.
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[QUOTE=ISpaMan;1700916]Of course "za plata" But same time it is better to pay some more money and come in trusted place with one of the best service instead of visiting cheap rat hole. I think you will agree. It is reasonable.[/QUOTE]Sure, it sounds reasonable, specially if the tourist doesn't know the local scene and the ruski iesik.
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Fallen in love with Saint Petersburg
Number of P4 P available in the city is astonishingly high. I don't give a damn about freebies and one girl from a bar which I thought was a freebie turned out to be pro after reaching hotel. I was on a very short trip for one night so used rusdosug escort earlier in the evening which was good value for money (6000 Rubles- all inclusive for 2 HR). I have an impression from these few encounters that almost every nice girl working in restaurant to university student are available for a price. During daytime I did lot of touristy things like visiting Church, Museum and Shopping etc.
Incredibly beautiful place with equally beautiful girls and friendly people (I found it exactly opposite of media propaganda). I will stay for at least few weeks next time.
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[QUOTE=Aibolit;1662827]Dear all,
I have trouble deciding whether to go have fun in Manila or St. Petersburg.
Aibolit[/QUOTE]I've been to the Philippines (Manila), Jakarta, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia this year. For some reason I always thought Manila would be great. I've never seen so many unattractive girls in Manila compared to anywhere in Asia. Only decent looking girls are the working girls. You could walk miles in a mall and not see one attractive girl. It's also ugly dirty sprawling place and not very safe, I would never go back. P4 P is also not cheap. Only advantage is they all speak good English and love American fast food, hence love Americans. If you must experience the Philippines I hear Cebu is better. If you are after Asian girls nothing in my view beats the variety quality and quantity of Thailand.
SPB girls are gorgeous Russian European many model looking girls with easy access from Europe, don't expect it to be Asia-easy and Asia-cheap.
Let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=SeanEZ;1714994]I've been to the Philippines (Manila), Jakarta, Vietnam, Thailand, and Cambodia this year. For some reason I always thought Manila would be great. I've never seen so many unattractive girls in Manila compared to anywhere in Asia. Only decent looking girls are the working girls. You could walk miles in a mall and not see one attractive girl. It's also ugly dirty sprawling place and not very safe, I would never go back. P4 P is also not cheap. Only advantage is they all speak good English and love American fast food, hence love Americans. If you must experience the Philippines I hear Cebu is better. If you are after Asian girls nothing in my view beats the variety quality and quantity of Thailand.
SPB girls are gorgeous Russian European many model looking girls with easy access from Europe, don't expect it to be Asia-easy and Asia-cheap.
Let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]No doubt about it the SPB girls are gorgeous but I have also see some lovely Filipinas in Manila. As with everything there are different opinions on beauty and YMMV with experiences.
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[QUOTE=Bill100;1715904]No doubt about it the SPB girls are gorgeous but I have also see some lovely Filipinas in Manila. As with everything there are different opinions on beauty and YMMV with experiences.[/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong, and I didn't mean to offend anyone's taste or preference, some Phillipinas are absolutely gorgeous creatures and added bonus there is no communication problem, and it's easy to take one to one of many beaches.
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Are these photos real?
They look incredible.
[URL]http://spb.prostitutki.org/[/URL]
[URL]http://spb.devochkicz.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.rusprostitute.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://spb.otsos.cz/[/URL]
[URL]https://vipsoski.com/index/index/b/4-5/p/1[/URL]
But are they most likely real or fake?
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[QUOTE=HarryDubois;1719824]They look incredible.
[URL]http://spb.prostitutki.org/[/URL]
[URL]http://spb.devochkicz.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.rusprostitute.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://spb.otsos.cz/[/URL]
[URL]https://vipsoski.com/index/index/b/4-5/p/1[/URL]
But are they most likely real or fake?[/QUOTE]50/50 - some of them are real, but a lot of them. Fake.
If you want exactly sex, I can recommend you Karamelki. Org and markizaspb. Org. Photos 100% real.
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Based on these ads St Petersburg women seem to be incredibly beautiful
Is that the case? Is it due to the large number of students there, the rampant poverty which makes them turn to prostitution? What is it?
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Some girls are just made for love
Checked in the hotel, checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 why o, my kinda package, called around 1 pm, operator said she was available at 2, asked for outcall rates, 7500 Rubel for 3 h.
Driver dropped her off, couldn't believe my eyes, what a love angel he relinquished, girl next door look, Tatarka, that beautiful Prussian Eurasian face, but slender, muscled and well proportioned, so simple, a T-shirt (no bra), very tight jeans, a slip, a pair of real cute socks, new sneakers, just an adorable sweet bird of youth with a nice smile on her face. No make up. Incredible youngish fuck.
I told the operator I would have a rose on me. She liked it. At the reception another very doable girl, but of course off limits. Reception girl speaks English – ticket to a safe job. My sex toy speaks no word of English. Character and body make up for it. But it is these kinds of barriers to achievement that explain why such hotties are available in such quantity and quality in Russia.
When I passed with my sex-toy-to-be, the reception girl immediately understood. Others call it walk of shame – I relish the moment. The reception girl is a little taken aback, the security nods a knowing nod, privilege of the businessman, he thinks, let him have his will with her.
In the room, she takes a long shower. Says she is 21, looks like 16, I am sure she told the truth. Comes to me in white fishnets and a slip, makes out. DFK on the menu.
I have her undress me in front of the mirror, lots of hugs and looks. Take my shower. On the bed. Ask her not to take her hands off my dick for the rest of the session. She smiles. Ask her to keep her legs spread. She obliges, smiles. Gets me hard by stroking and French kissing, wants to put on a condom. I say BBBJ, she says 1500 Rubel if you come in my mouth, I say of course I will come in your mouth, darling. Follows a long soft delicate, wet blow job. She puts my hand on the back of her head. I try to gag her – impossible – girlie has skills. She proposes me to stand. Sucks me on her knees. Looks at me ever so sweetly. I have one hand on the back of her head, one hand on her throat and chin, face fuck her tenderly but also violently, my strong hands have her head in their vise, quick motions, penetration to the hilt. She sweats and enjoys. Her eyelashes show the effort and the collisions.
Place her on the bed. Finger in vagina, deep, G spot, other hand working the Venus mount. She really really really enjoys. Finally asks in delusionary state for something in her mouth, insert two fingers while the other hand continues working her vag, breath quickens, tongue flicking around the fingers, she sucks violently, she comes.
I ask her where she has that body from. She says swimming. 3 times a week. I say cool. She is a student, works by the side. Loves her job, very interesting she says, selling stuff in the fashion boutique is boring. Started her second income at age 17. I motion her to another BBBJ, ask her to let me CIF. She is fine with it. Deep throats me while lying on my back, member skyward. Push her below, tell her to keep her face near the erect dick and her hand on the dick. Sweet ball licking, beautiful sight when she engulfs the cock with her mouth from time to time.
I get the mirror from the wall, ask her if she is fine with it. She says she loves it. From now on double view casting.
I push her further South – she understands. Tongue darts slowly into my anus. Incredible feeling, lose my breath. She motions her head and my legs for optimal tongue penetration of my hole. Eventually ask her to quicken the stroking of my dick, she moves her face over the glans, remarkable pop, lands in her face, she uses the penis to smear and paint it all over, all smiles. For well she should be – it is all natural. Honestly speaking, I do not understand my preoccupation with facials, but she looks incredibly cute with that sperm cake. After looking at her for a few minutes, her hand keeping my member in post orgasmic gliss, off to the shower.
Next comes relaxing, close our eyes. Then a fruit pie and a cup of tea. I got this great St Petersburg pie on Nevsky to have something nice for us. Afterwards more relax – I ask her to just close her eyes. I give her a prolonged foot massage, towels, soap, hot water and all. She is in heaven. Then move up half ways, cunnilingus. She tastes absolutely great. I would not consider myself an expert at it, but this creature below me is just made for love. Sure enough, after a few min or so, her breath quickens again, then calms down, 2 min later a hand descends on my arm, thank you darling. I am horny to get my reward, fuck her with a condom, several positions, but I really like to decorate her face again. After a 30 min BBBJ with extended anilingus, her face basically buried by my balls, I motion her to lick my balls and finish myself off with a very few strokes, pulsating into her very pretty face and hair. I get a 2nd or 3rd nice shot in her black shoulder long hair, cute to look at when the ballistics move the hair. She is all smiles, then shower.
More tea, 2,5 h up, I ask for another hand- and blowjob. She is happy to oblige, nice pop. In the final seconds she moves her face into position to serve as the sperm screen. Not bad the little youth bird. One hand on the anus, one hand on the balls, mouth around the member. Finally she strokes a little and my spice of life comes to the fore. Very cute.
Decided to meet again next day. This time not via the operator but directly. Face 7, Body 9, Attitude 10. Youth multiplier 10. Incredible. Best sex of a lifetime, had some good sex in it, got to say, but this was in the tops.
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1720299]checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 [/QUOTE]She sounds perfect, my kinda girl. Could you share details?
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Hotels vs apartments
I already posted a similar post in the Moscow threat but here is the one for SP. My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in SP. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the SP area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1720299]Checked in the hotel, checked rusdosug, found a looker, 1,60 m, 45 kg, beautiful abs and sporty poses, 20 why o, my kinda package, called around 1 pm, operator said she was available at 2, asked for outcall rates, 7500 Rubel for 3 h.
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Decided to meet again next day. This time not via the operator but directly. Face 7, Body 9, Attitude 10. Youth multiplier 10. Incredible. Best sex of a lifetime, had some good sex in it, got to say, but this was in the tops.[/QUOTE]Aaaarrrrggghhh! Damnit!! I have bald spot on my head from ripping my hair out of sheer jealousy! Bless your heart man, now I can't wait until my trip. I land in Moscow, but now I am thinking to find a way to St Pete. Not a lot of reports like your on the Moscow side. I'm not a big guy, I'm only 5'8" about 165 lbs, so I really do need a smaller girl, I can't accommodate the bigger ones. Its been at least 2009 since I've had the kind of quality sex that you speak of.
Why can't the usa be like this? Why does America have to be such a prison? I turn 41 yrs old this summer. F* my life.
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Spb
[QUOTE=Smdrr;1721336]I already posted a similar post in the Moscow threat but here is the one for SP. My trip to Russia is finally coming together and I can't be more excited about it! Reports of my stay will be due once I arrive and settle in Moscow and SP. I am looking for freebie play only and was hoping to get some opinion on what the best course of stay is in SP. Would you recommend staying at a hotel or an apartment in the SP area? The hotel prices are not outrageous so unless I am missing on a big factor of renting apartment, I could just take the more convenient route of booking a hotel room. Also are reputable hotels in general girl friendly in the sense that if I bring a regular girl, do I have to register them with the front desk or something?[/QUOTE]Try Aster hotel Nevsky. Reception behind staircase. You can take your chicks upstairs discretely. Great location. Freebies. Fight and conquer, thence boy girl experience is at its best. Mutually satisfying. No black and white thinking. Give 11 roses to your girlfriend. Get a great blow job for the mutual satisfaction of loving adults. Give to freebies, in whatever form, even material support, and the sex gets better. If you speak Russian, try the apartments and salons. Type rusdosug unblock. Take feedback on the web seriously. Put cash in your pocket, leave credit card at home. Ask of the lady what you want and need. Chance is she is happy to provide. Get them off, they need it. Stick with safe practices, a mouth, a tongue and ten fingers can be such skilled tools at pleasure provision. Strip clubs I would avoid. Conceited dancers often poor at play.
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Some girls are just made for love II
2nd session with my conquest was an all nighter, 6 pm to 10 am, I gave 16 000 Rubel. Begins with me participating in a work related teleconference. I sit in front of the laptop. Be o o o ring.
My 21 year princess girl undresses except a hoodie and her socks, rolls hoodie over her smallish firm tits, places mirror in front of me, unbuttons my pants and shirt, starts to caress my dick, which is at highest attention. For 30 min she keeps me near orgasmic levels. I slow her down not to decorate my laptop and papers with cum.
She insists I tell the colleagues on the line to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] break, implores me to take a shower so she can commence BBBJ. Well, I am used to taking orders, a few minutes later I am all clean, white bathroom robe, super cutie is kneeling between my legs, very busy hands and tongue, sweet looks.
I am rock hard and am able to gag her. Great throat sounds. I finish the telcon and suggest to move to the bathtub. She is happy, we lay in it for an hour or so. I keep my discipline and hard member, am more there to enjoy the love child's optics. That requires placing her on the bathtub rim, back against the tiled wall.
Me looking up between her widely spread legs, I rub her tits and lick her pussy deeply and rhythmically. As expected, her breath quickens, orgasm no 3. Lots of hugs, she sweats a great deal, merges in prolonged French kissing, dick in her hand, fully erect.
Still thinking what a beautiful pornographic sight she offers, I insist on continuing. 15 min later, orgasm no 4 for her. My tongue flicks to her anus, she brushes me off. The gal sensed the evolving attack on her anus and signals her reticence. Fine.
She wants to reciprocate and calm my excitement. Towel, dry up, on to bed. She binds her hair in two braids, which takes 5 years of her age. Wears the cute dotted socks, yet one more year must be subtracted from the visuals. Legal limit to penetration by an age peer in Amsterdam reached. Good enough for me. I am more than twice the little angel's age. The nice thing about Russians is, they do not care as long as you are desirable and, in our type of encounter, discrete.
Penetrate her pussy deeply with condom, nice intensive ride where I keep her passive, pummeled, overwhelmed, sweaty and rammed in the mattress. I like. She likes! Then off with the condom and on my back, for finale without condom in her mouth and face. She plays ostensibly with the braids, makes sure I get her youth into my brain.
Prolonged anilingus. My breath at 160. Finger insertion to my prostate, second hand on balls, throat engulfing the dick, great noises, a few minues of this until I give in, senseless to resist, I come in huge spurts in her mouth which she drools out. She gags nicely on the shots, all smiles and good temper. I enjoy dumping the spent dick in her throat again and again and again. And she relishes the salty thick milky laces on her beaming face.
Two repeats until 10 am, what can I say? Looks most sexily also when dressed or half dressed. I let her know the braids are standard from now on, new Russian law. She laughs and plays with her hands with them, looking at me smiling. Germans say 'Zopfchenficker' if I understood that right from a Teuton friend. We both came 5 times in those 2 encounters, and the number of hours where two quick flings would have gotten us off was?? Maybe 5? Not bad. She said the time of intercourse gets her to that level.
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ISG or penthouse forums!
[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1721507]2nd session with my conquest was an all nighter, 6 pm to 10 am, I gave 16 000 Rubel. Begins with me participating in a work related teleconference. I sit in front of the laptop. Be o o o ring.
My 21 year princess girl undresses except a hoodie and her socks, rolls hoodie over her smallish firm tits, places mirror in front of me, unbuttons my pants and shirt, starts to caress my dick, which is at highest attention. For 30 min she keeps me near orgasmic levels. I slow her down not to decorate my laptop and papers with cum.
... until I give in, senseless to resist, I come in huge spurts in her mouth which she drools out. She gags nicely on the shots, all smiles and good temper. I enjoy dumping the spent dick in her throat again and again and again. And she relishes the salty thick milky laces on her beaming face.[/QUOTE]I guess not everybody is the oil and gas biz. Some of us are apparently professional writers. I just didn't think the literary arts paid that well or required travel. Somebody should tell this guy everything's going to be alright LOL!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9L1eFMMenM[/URL]
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Sorry if my report bored you. What is this obsession with Penthouse? In student days I looked at it, find the slim internet girls of today so much more desirable. And in student days, those little angels were around aplenty on campus. I have not borrowed any from that journal. I am a sparse contributor to this forum, and my contributions are entirely factual.
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Thanks Philosophus both the response and the great report. Hotels are either all booked or pretty expensive in June! Anybody has a recommendation for a decent quality apartment in SP?
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1721748]Sorry if my report bored you. What is this obsession with Penthouse? In student days I looked at it, find the slim internet girls of today so much more desirable. And in student days, those little angels were around aplenty on campus. I have not borrowed any from that journal. I am a sparse contributor to this forum, and my contributions are entirely factual.[/QUOTE]Not bored at all sir, I believe you completely. If you saw my previous posts you will see that I speak light heartedly. As I mentioned before, I too much prefer very small, very thin women.
So glad to see there are still places in the world where availability and expectations are not only met, but exceeded! Just to confirm, you said you found her on rusdosug?
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1722211]Not bored at all sir, I believe you completely. If you saw my previous posts you will see that I speak light heartedly. As I mentioned before, I too much prefer very small, very thin women.
So glad to see there are still places in the world where availability and expectations are not only met, but exceeded! Just to confirm, you said you found her on rusdosug?[/QUOTE]Yes, Rusdosug. Call the numbers. I found pictures more often than not match. Look at the feedback (in Russian). If the saloon replies to a negative comment, take it seriously. It means, the saloon is interested in a good reputation. It means, probably the girls in that saloon (Russians say e. G. "dom") and their photos are real. Try at 2 pm or so. More vacancies of lookers. Try in English if you speak no Russian. Often the dispatcher replies in English, even if it is a Russian dom. For myself: I really enjoy the hunt and am more for the freebie side. But people who know their ways less in St Petersburg must absolutely also have a plan be. And that can very well be to order an outcall girl in the afternoon for 2 h to your room. Then you can still go to the clubs, dance, sponsor a bottle of champagne (choose the cheap stuff 500 Roubel per bottle), sponsor some more, take your conquest home. Visiting apartments is also recommended. Many a good girl there, delighted to delight, young, decent or good looking. What they prize is privacy (there is another life in them at other hours of the day). What they prize is pleasure and respect for their limits, especially no A levels. There are plenty who turn 18 and head for the apartments because a new revenue stream opens up. And at 20, they may already have had enough of it and move on. Then there are those who somehow cannot bond with age peers, but sure do enjoy the sexual attention accorded to them by mid lifers, especially if the latter have maintained themselves and the former do not look like models. They still look really really cute, young age helps.
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Strip clubs
Some fellows recommend them. Visuals before play. I can only say I have never had success in St Petersburg with them. Most of them have massage with happy ending, but principally, the dancers I met are stuck up due to their exterior appearance and they ruin any decent experience by senseless up selling. When you are in one of the hundreds of places, they ask you to buy an expensive drink for them, one third of the price being pocketed by them. Aplenty in this setting are girls and booze. Scarce are paying customers. Since I only drink tea when at play, the retard strip club lady starts to serve vodka for free, to entice me to spend more. As if 2 vodka after a half a liter of tea could do me any harm. If you agree for a private dance, they ask for another and another. Since they drink more than you and they are desperate, it really turns uncomfy. Thank you. Bye bye. Dance club or apartment (dom) or especially outcall in the afternoon. You get what you are there for. Fellows who disagree with me: Let us hear it.
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Finally
Names etc. I cannot share. Would not like my contributions to make it back to the princesses whose privacy must be protected. It actually turns me on when we walk at a discrete distance to one another over Nevski to find a Sushi diner. Let them live their healthy and sexually immensely satisfying double life. Let the youngest & prettiest talent needy of sponsoring come out and play. I also think the search is half the fun, and the disastrous experiences (at a loss of 100 EUR s piece) tremendously amplify the great experiences. Feel free to disagree.
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Ahhh thank you!
[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1722455]Yes, rusdosug. Call the numbers. I found pictures more often than not match. Look at the feedback (in Russian). If the saloon replies to a negative comment, take it seriously. It means, the saloon is interested in a good reputation. It means, probably the girls in that saloon (Russians say e. G. "dom") and their photos are real. Try at 2 pm or so. More vacancies of lookers. Try in English if you speak no Russian. Often the dispatcher replies in English, even if it is a Russian dom. For myself: I really enjoy the hunt and am more for the freebie side. But people who know their ways less in St Petersburg must absolutely also have a plan be. And that can very well be to order an outcall girl in the afternoon for 2 h to your room. Then you can still go to the clubs, dance, sponsor a bottle of champagne (choose the cheap stuff 500 Roubel per bottle), sponsor some more, take your conquest home. Visiting apartments is also recommended. Many a good girl there, delighted to delight, young, decent or good looking. What they prize is privacy (there is another life in them at other hours of the day). What they prize is pleasure and respect for their limits, especially no A levels. There are plenty who turn 18 and head for the apartments because a new revenue stream opens up. And at 20, they may already have had enough of it and move on. Then there are those who somehow cannot bond with age peers, but sure do enjoy the sexual attention accorded to them by mid lifers, especially if the latter have maintained themselves and the former do not look like models. They still look really really cute, young age helps.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Philosophus1;1722458]Some fellows recommend them. Visuals before play. I can only say I have never had success in St Petersburg with them. Most of them have massage with happy ending, but principally, the dancers I met are stuck up due to their exterior appearance and they ruin any decent experience by senseless up selling. When you are in one of the hundreds of places, they ask you to buy an expensive drink for them, one third of the price being pocketed by them. Aplenty in this setting are girls and booze. Scarce are paying customers. Since I only drink tea when at play, the retard strip club lady starts to serve vodka for free, to entice me to spend more. As if 2 vodka after a half a liter of tea could do me any harm. If you agree for a private dance, they ask for another and another. Since they drink more than you and they are desperate, it really turns uncomfy. Thank you. Bye bye. Dance club or apartment (dom) or especially outcall in the afternoon. You get what you are there for. Fellows who disagree with me: Let us hear it.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Philosophus1;1722461]Names etc. I cannot share. Would not like my contributions to make it back to the princesses whose privacy must be protected. It actually turns me on when we walk at a discrete distance to one another over Nevski to find a Sushi diner. Let them live their healthy and sexually immensely satisfying double life. Let the youngest & prettiest talent needy of sponsoring come out and play. I also think the search is half the fun, and the disastrous experiences (at a loss of 100 EUR s piece) tremendously amplify the great experiences. Feel free to disagree.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing on a level that is par excellence. I'm definitely taking a page out of this playbook, it is nothing short of wisdom! I liked the idea of getting one in during the day, and hitting the clubs at night. I've used something like that before, in Prague. It works. My only fear is that I won't be able to get in the clubs. I don't like the overcrowded super advertised places, I like a place that has a really good dj and dance floor with enough room, not overcrowded, and not too loud. I like your idea about trying to use "doms"? To find young ones that are not too attractive as to be out of my league, but cute enough and willing enough to spend time with me. Maybe they can get me into the right places, in more ways than one LOL!
With that being said, what are your thoughts about trying something like this, maybe looking up some universities in the area, post myself as someone who is willing to offer conversational English practice over coffee somewhere, and then during the hangout, maybe see if I can't get some of the more attractive takers to escort me to the clubs? I'm paranoid because I know that, in this world, there are 2 places that are absolutely not stag friendly, and that is discotheque / dance-clubs (the world over, single guys get turned away at the door) and strip clubs (internationally confirmed garbage-ass experiences).
Another question please. It sounds like these girls need the client to micromanage the entire experience. To me, the idea of handing her a script takes the fun out of it. Spontaneity of natural expression is so critical to the enjoyment of the experience. If they absolutely need program instructions before hand, can I just tell her to "let nature take over"? Will that work?
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1722850] With that being said, what are your thoughts about trying something like this, maybe looking up some universities in the area, post myself as someone who is willing to offer conversational English practice over coffee somewhere, and then during the hangout, maybe see if I can't get some of the more attractive takers to escort me to the clubs? I'm paranoid because I know that, in this world, there are 2 places that are absolutely not stag friendly, and that is discotheque / dance-clubs (the world over, single guys get turned away at the door) and strip clubs (internationally confirmed garbage-ass experiences).
Another question please. It sounds like these girls need the client to micromanage the entire experience. To me, the idea of handing her a script takes the fun out of it. Spontaneity of natural expression is so critical to the enjoyment of the experience. If they absolutely need program instructions before hand, can I just tell her to "let nature take over"? Will that work?[/QUOTE]There are many many very young ones, great bodies and pretty faces in the apartments. No need to settle for average looks. University. I have seen fellows write about university towns. I will have none of it. If in Russia, try SPb. The anonymity of the big city is the key, not the large student population. The bigger the city, the better your luck. SPb has relatively low economic activity (only city center is beautiful, rest suffers from Peter the Great's dilemma that he build a government outpost in the miserable wetlands) but high loyalty. Gals do not move away. Look, these girls all want to have a decent living, a faithful husband and a kid or two eventually. All of them. Many live in self delusion and a few proactively and self consciously enjoy there promiscuous lifestyle they live. So in a university environment, they will snub you, when their friends are around, but they will be awesome companions as long as the setting is discrete. Micromanage. It really depends on the gal. Believe what they offer on rusdosug. Often they offer more if you are nice and generous. If a girl offers herself in a club, insist on DFK and oral without condom, Russian "MBR", minet bes resniki. Do not settle for less. I would navigate in the 2500 Roubel per hour range if I was you. The saloon takes half the cut. So meet again with her outside of saloon (dom) frame and give her 2000 (or 2500) an hour. She will show her gratitude. 2nd meeting: Roses, a bottle of champagne, prepare her food, buy a pair of shoes, whatever makes her feel special and entertained. Smoke a water pipe. All the princesses I met basically have a nicotine soul self healing mechanism. If you throw in a 20 USD water pipe one sushi. That'll capture her fancy. Visit the doms. English lesson: Too primitive. Many of the Russian princesses who have chosen to give their bodies have abandoned their English when they were fifteen years old. A no starter, your idea. Once you have established a rapport with a willing princess, sure, jokes about English or Russian or teaching some words can be fun. Just like in every other relationship.
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[QUOTE=Philosophus1;1723038]There are many many very young ones, great bodies and pretty faces in the apartments. No need to settle for average looks. University. I have seen fellows write about university towns. I will have none of it. If in Russia, try SPb. The anonymity of the big city is the key, not the large student population. The bigger the city, the better your luck. SPb has relatively low economic activity (only city center is beautiful, rest suffers from Peter the Great's dilemma that he build a government outpost in the miserable wetlands) but high loyalty. Gals do not move away. Look, these girls all want to have a decent living, a faithful husband and a kid or two eventually. All of them. Many live in self delusion and a few proactively and self consciously enjoy there promiscuous lifestyle they live. So in a university environment, they will snub you, when their friends are around, but they will be awesome companions as long as the setting is discrete. Micromanage. It really depends on the gal. Believe what they offer on rusdosug. Often they offer more if you are nice and generous. If a girl offers herself in a club, insist on DFK and oral without condom, Russian "MBR", minet bes resniki. Do not settle for less. I would navigate in the 2500 Roubel per hour range if I was you. The saloon takes half the cut. So meet again with her outside of saloon (dom) frame and give her 2000 (or 2500) an hour. She will show her gratitude. 2nd meeting: Roses, a bottle of champagne, prepare her food, buy a pair of shoes, whatever makes her feel special and entertained. Smoke a water pipe. All the princesses I met basically have a nicotine soul self healing mechanism. If you throw in a 20 USD water pipe one sushi. That'll capture her fancy. Visit the doms. English lesson: Too primitive. Many of the Russian princesses who have chosen to give their bodies have abandoned their English when they were fifteen years old. A no starter, your idea. Once you have established a rapport with a willing princess, sure, jokes about English or Russian or teaching some words can be fun. Just like in every other relationship.[/QUOTE]Brilliant and revealing insights, and a field plan with sound philosophy behind it too! This is a resource, thank you so much. I will stay away from the college scene directly. This makes total sense and explains a few observations I have made in this regard.
If I can get a girl willing to be a companion with me during my trip, at that point I don't think we're counting hours. How much is a fair price per per day?
Sorry for so many questions, I hope that all this training will lead to many field reports (and posted pictures) once I am there hehe BTW if you are staying there in July, lets exchange info in the PM.
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Rusdosug seems to be blocked. Anyone got a new address for it? I'm lost without it.
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[QUOTE=ChekhovA;1731639]Rusdosug seems to be blocked. Anyone got a new address for it? I'm lost without it.[/QUOTE]I just checked, and I got to it just fine. Are you able to ping the site? Can you tracer it? It might be a blocked site from your end. Try using TOR so you can maybe get a different route path to site, you know, circumvent the offending router if its not one in your control.
I dunno, just brainstorming for ya buddy.
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Hey there!
I will be in SPB next week and was looking for recommendations for good restaurants / bars / clubs or any other activities that I can get into with some freebie ladies. Thanks for the help and some reports will be due if the meetings turn out to be successful.
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Thanks Shawman74 , I got rusdosug to open by using proxy sites.
Apologies for asking this, as I'm sure the answer is somewhere down the thread. Where's a quick, hassle-free place to get HIV / STD tests? Don't mind paying a bit, but don't want to spend hours in line.
Thanks in advance, as the Russians say.
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Homeless in St Pete's!
Whats happening guys! Alright, so I am ever-closer to my fateful trip to Russia. And everything is squared away except for one day and one night in St Pete. I have my apartment booked from 16th-22nd, but I fly in from Moscow on the 15th. Since they don't have an availability on the 15th, technically I will be homeless for that first day LOL! Instead of running out and booking a place right away (queue up office music), I thought to check in here for some sage wisdom from my elders (queue up death metal music).
What should I do?
Book one night in an extravagant hotel to experience what it would be like to actually live in a fairy tale palace?
Slum it in a brothel and risk getting my shit stolen?
Spending the night at the mercy of the pavement for an adventure I might live to regret?
Or just masturbate in the airport hotel and torch $100 ish / one full day of my trip in relative safety, but live to see another day?
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Sex on the beach?
Does anyone knows about the pagan sex parties going on around Peterburg this summer. This is the Russian version of "Mardi Gras".
I saw a Russian documentary movie about this tradition, but found few infos in English about locations etc.
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Oohh the girls of gaia
[QUOTE=WingForwing;1739881]Does anyone knows about the pagan sex parties going on around Peterburg this summer. This is the Russian version of "Mardi Gras".
I saw a Russian documentary movie about this tradition, but found few infos in English about locations etc.[/QUOTE]Hey man!
I tried looking this thing up but to no avail. Send me some of your links, let me see if I can't make some sense out of it.
I can tell you from firsthand personal experience, that with the pagan community, be careful what you wish for, because you might actually get it! Sometimes, "yes" is scarier than a "no" LOL! But all kidding aside, yeah the pagan community is very tight knit and very insular. They are outgoing, extroverted, and very egregious when they want to be, but they don't welcome outsiders at all, and are very suspicious of people, regardless, even if those people share the same faith.
If you can get a lock on this thing they are doing, forward it to me. It will be worth going to see, and I admit that I am versed in paganism enough to be a guide; any flavor, Hindu, wiccan, heathen, you name it. My guess is this gathering would most likely be some type mini-festival thing (because the weather is so nice), including some sabbat for litha / solstice, since everybody is already there. If we can manage to participate in a coven's sabbat, we will have a chance to lay down some real game.
At these things, you don't want to hit on the workers, because they are battle-hardened, and they will end up playing you. Also, it can actually be difficult to open up sets with the out layer girls, but once you do, conversation is easy, and chances for them to hang out with you for a little bit become higher. Especially if they are serving some kind of light alcoholic beverage like mead or cider. It still might be difficult to get in their pants though. LMR is a real, ain't it?
If you are going to be in StP, I am there from July 15-22, and even if you are not, you already know I got you for Moscow July 8th-14th!
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1740125]Hey man!
I tried looking this thing up but to no avail. Send me some of your links, let me see if I can't make some sense out of it.
I can tell you from firsthand personal experience, that with the pagan community, be careful what you wish for, because you might actually get it! Sometimes, "yes" is scarier than a "no" LOL! [/QUOTE]I think we are talking about 2 different things. The people on the documentary were very open minded and not religious at all. It was just about fun and sex.
One of their well known traditions is the "bride hunt": first they all (anyone can join) gather together at the beach, make the fire, then drink some vodka, all get naked by then, just to start the hunt, which means a young woman put some ornaments (flowers, paths) in her head and run randomly through the beach. The men start to hunt her and the one who "catches" her first has the right to fuck her right there on the beach. Both the girl and the men hunting her are all naked BTW.
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Running with a boner?
[QUOTE=WingForwing;1740303]I think we are talking about 2 different things. The people on the documentary were very open minded and not religious at all. It was just about fun and sex.
One of their well known traditions is the "bride hunt": first they all (anyone can join) gather together at the beach, make the fire, then drink some vodka, all get naked by then, just to start the hunt, which means a young woman put some ornaments (flowers, paths) in her head and run randomly through the beach. The men start to hunt her and the one who "catches" her first has the right to fuck her right there on the beach. Both the girl and the men hunting her are all naked BTW.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Looks like its most likely some private nudist and / or swingers group's party then. And most likely a sausage-fest at best. The female merchandise from that whole scene always seemed a bit questionable. Fat, old, ugly, married, or all four! But with 90% being males at these parties, they don't have to worry about competition. Besides, if a guy is willing to let you screw his wife, then one of 2 things is happening -.
A) he is in the closet watching you two and filming it, or.
B) he is in the closet, getting naked, and waiting the perfect moment to pounce on your behind!
I'm not trying to kill a "can do" attitude, but just based on what you told me, I would say this is a terrible idea.
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1740457]Hmm. Looks like its most likely some private nudist and / or swingers group's party then...[/QUOTE]Well I am not planning visiting those beaches anyway, I was just curious about the tradition. Thanks for your opinion.
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1739273]Spending the night at the mercy of the pavement for an adventure I might live to regret?
[/QUOTE]I did this one trip in Moscow. Don't know the situation in Peter. I took the train in from the airport and stowed my luggage at the luggage storage place at the Moscow side train station and then stay out all night. It really only works if you can get into your apartment early. Staying out all night is probably what you are planning to do anyway.
For god's sake, don't stay at the airport hotel. At least go into the city.
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[QUOTE=McAnt;1692103]I'm wondering, is there anyone who can offer more info on xxxmassage. Ru? It was recommended as top-notch service in September, and the site looks quite promising; ofc anyone can upload wonderful pic but I definitely like that the booking system is rather simple and logical (you can book via the operator if he / she is online or via text. They provide sample messages and as you can send them in English I'm sure its the same operator who handles them) and that they provide a detailed info on how to reach them by metro or taxi. The same applies to the prices (all in ruble). The girls look stunning, and that one review endorses the site, but would appreciate more info on the place.[/QUOTE]I only noticed this post now. I have been back to xxxmassage a few times this year due to some business travel to neighbouring states. While not all sessions were the golden one I enjoyed last September, I can still say the girls there are real stunners. Not all provide extras though. The owner has to be one hottest russian girls I have ever seen and seems to attract the same calibre of girls to her staff. It is just a matter of figuring out who puts out.
Over all, I am still happy with the place.
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What a girl
https://www.rusdosug.com/indi200596.htm
Telephone: +7 (921) 877-95-70*Info.
Age: 21.
Height: 161 cm (5'3'.
Breast size: 3 (C).
Gorgeous girl. Photos are real. Face is very pretty and demeanor is excellent. Full service includes CBJ infortunately. But you can pay for additional add-ONS should you wish. Located in an apartment which is easy to find once she gives you directions. Speaks English fairly well. MSOG is fine as long as you are within your allocated time. Total cost Rub 4000. I already met her twice.
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-ripoff alert-
Heads up guys, strip club "BA", WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY!
They are on the lower floor from the street. Just around the corner from the church of our savior on spilled blood.
I know I owe you guys adventure reports from Moscow and StP, and those are coming soon. But I just wanted to drop a quick alert and possibly save someone else.
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[QUOTE=ShawMan74;1749629]Heads up guys, strip club "BA", WILL STEAL YOUR MONEY!
They are on the lower floor from the street. Just around the corner from the church of our savior on spilled blood.
I know I owe you guys adventure reports from Moscow and StP, and those are coming soon. But I just wanted to drop a quick alert and possibly save someone else.[/QUOTE]Thanks SM. Looking forward to your reports.
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Travelling to St Petersburg
Hi,
I am travelling to St. Petersburg this weekend. While, I have gone through last 20 pages of this forum but I guess I am not able to get the answers to couple of things.
- Which is good GFE hotel and which area one should stay for mongering activities. One should take apartment or hotel?
- It seems visiting salons, rusdosg are main options to get girls. Any suggestions on any night clubs where anyone has got a girl (I know it depends a lot on talent).
Also, if someone has recently been there and can share some good contacts, it would be welcome and appreciated.
Thanks
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Tatyana on Mamba
"Tatyana" on Mamba. 6000 for covered BJ and covered classic 10000 if you want uncovered BJ. 2 hours, though she stayed longer and it took her 90 minutes to find the apartment I'm staying in (during a rain deluge too, so thumbs up for that). She may or may not be an independent. The photos are definitely hers. I'd say this one is from a couple of years ago and the ones on Mamba more recent, so write me backchannel if you want her Mamba info or her number.
She speaks no English whatsoever, though she indicated to me she prefers to meet foreigners (Western Europeans, Americans). I can only guess she communicates via the translator on her phone.
BTW, if your writing to girls on Mamba, and it's your first time trying to write them, you can't write to them if they have more than 5 unanswered messages now, unless your VIP.
Met her a couple of nights ago. She's about 168 cm, late 20's probably, lots of energy, and she will dress to your desires, though I can't say how extensive her wardrobe is. I asked her to wear heels, stockings, black dress and that's how she turned up. She has 11 photos on Mamba and this one, which she sent to me via Viber.
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Main sites
Which are the main sites in Russia? Mamba and what about Rusdosug, is it "reliable" and Mambs is a chat site right?
Is it safe? I love the women over there but wonder about how it is by going alone.
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With perfect girls like this available in St Petersburg for $35, why on earth do any men go anywhere else??
[URL]https://vipsoski.me/index/show-ank/n/2524[/URL]
Who needs Brazil, Thailand, the Philippines, whatever?
Or are these profiles fakes? They seem too good to be true. So are they?
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[QUOTE=HarryDubois;1785100]Or are these profiles fakes? They seem too good to be true. So are they?[/QUOTE]Lovely girl. If you do a Google image search you get about three pages of hits.
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[QUOTE=Barba;1786426]Lovely girl. If you do a Google image search you get about three pages of hits.[/QUOTE]When I download this photo, it arrives as image. Jpg.
Filename does not seem to uniquely idenitify the image. So what would I use for search criteria?
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Fun in SPB
Was in SPB for 2 days and had a wonderful time. I can confirm that there are lot of girls available and various websites mentioned in forum have a wider selection.
Had called various numbers and had booked with one of girl who works as independent and had her for 1 hour in my hotel the total damage was 5000 roubles and with 2 pops and wonderful service. The girls was.
22 and had given best service.
Second day had booked another independent girl who spoke little English but when the girl came it was different girl didn't spoke English, she was 21 amazing body, and best service. Total damage was 6 k roubles and 1 pop.
I can confirm that the working girl scene is there and girls are really good and they give very good service. Look forward to be in SPB again soon.
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One night in Sp
Hi gents, just returned from Russia and posted a brief report about my adventure in Moscow. Spent the last night of the trip in Sp, booked at the Corinthia hotel. Great location. After the last business dinner was complete, had a 2 hour tour of the city with my hosts and then I was free. I checked out a bar 5 min away from the hotel, certainly had a number of working girls looking for clients, but frankly nothing appealing. Made my way back to the hotel to access the web. There were 3 ladies in the hotel lobby, but all were well past their "best by" date. Called around a bit and found a salon with someone that speaks English about 10 min from the hotel. I headed over for a look. Can't recall the name, although I'm sure it's encrypted on my phone somewhere. In any event, I arrive and there's 5 girls working. One stunner, 3 not bad, and one beast. Obviously zoned in on the stunner. She spoke very little English, but enough we could communicate. I asked about taking her to the hotel for the night. $180 for the night plus an additional $20 to take her off site. Had any of the others been better looking, I would have taken the lot for that price. Anyway, she changes into street clothes and off we go. Absolutely a ton of fun. Spent the first hour just drinking, slowly getting her undressed and just clowning around. She really was a ton of fun and would have gone all night. We did sleep, and she offered the breakfast of champions. Gave her $50 as a tip before she left.
Most definitely looking forward to my next trip.
Stirling.
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More hotel details please
[QUOTE=Stirling;1793010]Hi gents, just returned from Russia and posted a brief report about my adventure in Moscow. Spent the last night of the trip in Sp, booked at the Corinthia hotel...[/QUOTE]Hi Stirling.
Does the Corinthia have a joiner fee if you bring in girls from the outside?
Does it require ID or ask questions, creating a walk of shame?
Does it have its own girls in a lobby bar, hotel club or the like?
Accurate hotel details is some of the most valued info on ISG.
Thanks.
Cucumber.
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Corinthia
[QUOTE=Cucumber;1793843]Hi Stirling.
Does the Corinthia have a joiner fee if you bring in girls from the outside?
Does it require ID or ask questions, creating a walk of shame?
Does it have its own girls in a lobby bar, hotel club or the like?
Accurate hotel details is some of the most valued info on ISG.
Thanks.
Cucumber.[/QUOTE]Hi Cucumber, there are ladies available in the lobby, but frankly most were well past their best days. If the Corinthia has a policy of registering the ladies, I'm not aware of it. I simply breezed in with my girl and headed up to the room. If it's a concern, you can come in the hotels back door and access the elevators without passing the front desk.
Stirling.
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Heading to SP tomorrow and have been messaging a few hotties on Mamba. Ru without success. Is it futile or just a numbers game? Headed to Moscow next week so I guess I'll keep on trying.
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Petersburg salons. Overview
MAIN SALONS IN PETERSBURG.
- Karamelki (four branches) [URL]http://karamelki.org/[/URL].
- Markiza (four branches) [URL]http://markizaspb.org/[/URL].
- Tsa Tsa (two branches) [URL]http://piterlux.com/home.html[/URL].
- Chiki (three branches) [URL]http://forum.amurworld.com/index.php?showtopic=101682&pid=1340187&st=20&[/URL]#entry1340187 (not a real website, but the three branches are listed at bottom of page).
- Mu MU (or Me and You) [URL]http://forum.amurspb.ru/index.php?showforum=375[/URL] or [URL]http://www.mumu-spb.ru/?cat=12&paged=2[/URL].
- Art Escort (one branch, I think) [URL]http://artesc.ru/en[/URL].
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
GENERAL REMARKS.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to enquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a landline and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.
Petersburg is not the ideal place to go for a one or two day stint. It is best to have 3-5 days (without too many other commitments). This is because it is a bit hit and miss, and sometimes there is a bit of resistance or practicalities are difficult to work out if you don't know your way around. Petersburg is also not the best place to go for an inexperienced mongerer or an inexperienced traveller. Even an experienced mongerer and traveller who does not have much post-Soviet experienced may be put off. Frequently one has to go into situations where alarm bells are ringing (into a dark, run-down courtyard in the middle of the night; through an obscure unmarked door; into a smelly, dingy stairwell, etc.). But with a little familiarity with post-Soviet conditions, some risk-taking, sufficient time and effort and money, much can be achieved.
Many of the Petersburg salons have multiple branches in different locations. Calling around to the salons at around 10 pm, many of them may have neither girls nor rooms left, especially the most centrally located ones. Some of the salons claim to operate almost exclusively through advance reservations of specific girls, often from long-term clients. They may have one girl available in one or two hours, but some days it is not so easy to just walk in and select from a large group. But once you are in and have spent an hour with a girl, there may be another girl or two or three available and that way you can sometimes continue until your erection / back / knees fail you.
The photos on websites of these salons are all authentic (at least Karamelki and Markiza), though there are always some additional girls who don't have photos on the website yet. At least for Karamelki and Markiza you can see a schedule on the website of exactly who is at work when at which of their branches (which does not necessarily mean that that girl is available, as she may be busy with another client). But it is still pretty professional and impressive.
When I called the salons, the lady on the line (1076;1080;1089;1087;1077;1095;1077;1088; would sometimes be rude and impatient. A well known phenomenon here. I speak good Russian for a foreigner, but they can still tell I am not quite Russian after a few sentences and this can be a problem as they fear I may be from Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan are somewhere like that. So as soon as I notice any resistance I mention which Western country I am from, and then they usually seem more open. I asked a couple of girls about this, and they confirmed that that is what is going on. They explained that they see people from those countries as disrespectful towards the girls and sometimes unhygenic and difficult to communicate with and therefore try to keep them out of their establishments. I am not passing judgement on anyone, just reporting my impressions of other people's ideas in order that we all can understand the situation as well as possible.
KARAMELKI.
Karamelki is the best known of the chains of salons in Petersburg and subject to most reviews and discussion on the Russian internet fora. According to its website, it has four branches. In practice Mayakovskogo I and II are two apartments on the same floor on the same staircase. But are run as separate operations. The Karamelki at Volkolvskiy seems to be located quite near Pulkovo Airport, perhaps a 10 minute drive (if there is no traffic jam) - but I have never been there to check.
The girls are mostly not model-style attractive, more your girl next-door type with a good bit of variety. There are some real beauties too, but they tend to be fully booked. Service is usually good or great and open-minded and people tend to have good experiences there. I have at least twice had quite serious crushes on girls from Karamelki. Girls whom I was not sure whether to select when looking at the lineup, but who blew me away in the room. The chain has a total ban on BBBJ, but in practice this is not always upheld, some girls will reach a deal for extra payment, and some will do it on their own initiative (and some will not do it no matter what).
The dispecher at Karamelki Vasileostrovskiy was very pleasant and eager on the phone. I slept with three girls: Lilya, Ilona and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]. One was ok, one was good (in fact great PSE, but with silicone and Botox, which I don't like and which is not typical Karamelki), and one was mind-boggling (ultra-petite, super-firm body, pretty face, killer in bed, open-minded, nice conversation). I get the impression that the interaction with the girls at Karamelki is very personal, so how things work out depends a bit on the chemistry between you and the girl. When I arrived around 5 pm, there were only three girls there, but when I left around 10 pm there seemed to be around 10 girls sitting around various places in the house.
Another day I went to Karamelki Mayakovskogo I and II. At Mayakogskogo II there were around 6 girls available, but none of them really attractive. I opted for Kira. It was an error. I had noted which girls did not offer cunnilingus and avoided them. She was supposed to offer it. But when I went down on her, she suddenly wanted 5000 RUB (extra for that. A really bad case of upselling, in the middle of the act. She did it all in a very unpleasant and cold way, ruining the atmosphere. In the end I threw her out and asked for another girl. Something I have almost never done before in my life. I had another couple of girls. They were ok, but nothing great. Not a single girl in there would kiss. And I had not eating anything smelly, and I had brushed my teeth and they knew I had disinfected my mouth. And the administrator refused to return my money for Kira. They were manipulative and unpleasant. I would stay away from Mayakogskogo II.
On the way out I thought, "What the heck, since I am here anyway, why not have a look at Mayakogskogo I before I leave? So I got the administrator to call them and they opened the door for me. It was really quiet, and there were only two girls there. One of them was Amalia (no picture on the website). I was very in doubt about what to do. I was whacked out and also not in a great mood after the unpleasant experience at Mayakogskogo II. But Amalia was beautiful, really beautiful. And stylish. Solid 9, perhaps a 10. Slight exotic look, like half Chinese and half European (in fact turned out she was part Tartar). She looked a bit like a Bond girl, but with a slimmer, harder body. So I stayed. And I extended an extra hour. Because she was fantastic. VDFK, penetrative rimming, genuine masturbation on her part and initiative, and some intense role playing on her initiative. In the end the role playing even went on too long for me and I was beginning to wonder if we could ever snap out of it. She also somehow seemed not so smart, but was still an person to be around.
Cost at Karamelki Vasileostrovski: 5000 RUB per hour (1000 more than at the other Karamelki).
Directions to branch at Vasileostrovskiy. Address: 15-aya Linia, Dom 62, Vassiylevskiy Ostrov. Enter the yard where a stand-alone house of several stories has been built inside the yard. Ring the doorbell and once the door is answered you are in (no need to find the right floor or anything). The entire house is a brothel, with various rooms, showers etc. Vassiylevskiy Ostrov is an island across the river from Nevskiy Prospekt and the bridges close at 1:30 am for a few hours, so you should make sure not to get stuck there after that.
Directions to the Karamelki branches at Mayakovskogo: Ulitsa Myakovskogo, Dom 23. There is an unlit sign there that says "Biblioteka". Stand under the sign and ring the bell to be let through the gate, through the arc and into the yard. In the yard there is another arc on the left, which you do not go through. Instead you call them again and they let you in through the door immediately to the right of the arc. The apartments are on the sixth floor, but the ramshackle lift only goes to the fifth floor, so you need to climb the last flight of steps even if you brave the lift. When you get to the top Mayakogskogo I is to the right and II to the left (as far as I remember). Go to I, not II.
MARKIZA.
Markiza at Prospekt Prosveshcheniya is far from the center, in northern Petersburg. Markiza at Park Pobedy is a bit out of the center, in a southward direction. The two other Markiza branches are both near the city's main street, Nevskiy Prospekt and relatively near each other. I tried the branch at Ploschad Vosstaniya.
I first slept with Kristina, who didn't have her profile on the website. She demonstrated a level of sexual aggression I don't think I have ever experienced before. As usual I was left in a room on my own by the administratorsha to wait for her. I was expecting her to come in, mention her name, and then slip out again before I even had a chance to have a proper look, as they tend to do. In stead, the door opens, this quite attractive, fit girl comes in, says her name and flashes a big smile, walks up to me, grabs the back of my neck, and starts to kiss me intensely while digging around for my cock with her other hand and undressing me. No introductions, no demand for payment in advance, no off to the shower (though I did ultimately extract myself and go and wash since I had been out and about all day). She wanted to fuck in any and every way possible. She deep throated me time after time, all the way to the hilt, and then tried to get my balls in too. I think it is only the second or third time someone has deep-throated me for real in my life. But mostly she just slammed away. Even in doggie she was slamming hard against me and my main task was essentially to avoid reeling backwards. After about 20 minutes she was covered in her own perspiration on the outside and beautifully sopping wet on the inside. After 60 minutes I couldn't take any more.
Afterwards I tried Ulyana. I made a point of making the session with her different, and kept her standing up against the wall for as long as I could before moving to the bed, holding her gently but tightly, caressing her, whispering in her ear, tickling her neck, playing with the edges of her underwear and ultimately dropping to my knees to lick and rim her both from the the front and from behind. She responded nicely. After sex we had a nice conversation and it turned out she is a mechanic of all things and mad about cars. I have zero interest in cars, but it was an interesting conversation nonetheless.
The two hours I was there, there was only one other girl available. Seemingly there were one or more girls there who were busy.
Examining the website of the Markiza and Karamelki chains more closely I get a feeling that they may be run by the same people.
Cost 3000 RUB per hour.
Directions: The precise address is Ligovskiy Prospekt, Dom 44. Ploshchad Vosstaniya is the big roundabout at the end of Nevskiy Prospekt and in front of Moskovskiy Vogzal (railway station). If you walk from Ploschad Vosstaniya down the left side of Ligovskiy prospekt you will first get to the large, modern shopping mall Galeria. Once you have passed that, there will be a Chaynaya Lozhka cafe on a corner. Turn to the left there into a blind alley, at the end of which are big wrought iron gates. The gate on the left is always open, walk through that and continue straight fowards another 30 feet or so, and you will get to the corner of a building with a large number "6" over the door. There are two small dorbells next to the main one, ring the one on the far right without a light. The salon is on a high ground floor.
TSA TSA.
Tsa Tsa has two branches. I visited the one at Moskovskiy Prospekt 147. There were only 2 girls there when I was there, one face 5, body 7, the other face 5 body 8 (+ big labia, which is a 10 for me. I spent an hour first with one, then an hour and a half with the other. At first they were cold, but they both thawed and were very pleasant, and we had nice conversations and pleasant sex.
Cost: 2500 RUB per hour + 500 RUB for BBBJ. No kissing.
Directions: To get in, find the a very big set of red doors, dial 20 on the domofon and take the ramshackle lift to the sixth floor.
CHIKI.
This is the least organized of the chains. I tried the branch at Voznesenski Prospekt. The administratorsha was pleasant. It turned out to be a really cramped, simple flat. There were only two girls there. I chose Agata. 167 cm, zero breasts, very tight body, soft hair, nice pussy. She was so delicate and passionate that I ended up extending for a half an hour, in spite of being very tired. At the start she would not kiss, but clearly she wanted to. So I caressed, nibbled, stroked and played with her for a full 45 minutes but never let her have it all, and ultimately she was gagging for both kisses and a real fuck.
Cost 3000 RUB per hour, 2000 RUB for a half hour extension.
Directions: Voznesenski Prospekt, Dom 31. The entrance is straight off the street, right by a bus stop sign.
ART ESCORT.
This is the upscale agency in Petersburg. Prices 8000-12000 RUB per hour. They claim to have better service than other places, and (for once) it seems plausible. I never got around to trying them though, because the experiences I had the other places were enough for me and my funds were limited. I think there may also be another salon that tries to pass as Art Escort, so it is important to make sure you have got the right place.
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St. Petersburgh Salon girls 4000 rubles or $65 per hour?
Hi Cucumber,
Thanks for an excellent and detailed reports.
This beautiful girl Julia in Karamel lists her rate as 4000 rubles or about only $65 per hour in 2015, because the ruble lost half of its value last year. This is a very good deal.
Wonder if the selections and pricings are even better in Moscow and other cities in Russia?
[QUOTE=Cucumber;1798363]MAIN SALONS IN PETERSBURG.
- Karamelki (four branches) [URL]http://karamelki.org/[/URL].
- Markiza (four branches) [URL]http://markizaspb.org/[/URL].
- Tsa Tsa (two branches) [URL]http://piterlux.com/home.html[/URL]...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Grrrr;1798340]Heading to SP tomorrow and have been messaging a few hotties on Mamba. Ru without success. Is it futile or just a numbers game? Headed to Moscow next week so I guess I'll keep on trying.[/QUOTE]Hi Grrr,
In Moscow are many great clubs. Night Flight, Bordo, Rasputin, Viagra and many more. The massage salons are excellent. Vanilia near Arbat is wonderful. All pictures are real and itis really very cheap.
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Julia at Karamelki
I think you are unlikely to find cheaper options in Moscow. It is one of the world's most expensive cities. It is a big tough place with the highest concentration of billionaires in the world (at least at some point during recent years) as well as a lot of other successful people. And surprise, surprise, they all like sex too. Since it is so big, distances also get time and money consuming. It is not a budget destination. Neither is Petersburg, but Moscow is unlikely to be cheaper. Look at the poor sods on the Moscow forum going to Night Fligth and paying 500 EUR for makeup.
Concerning other locations in Russia my information is a bit out of date. I think there may still be good opportunities, but you would need time and perserverance and would probably benefit immensely from Russian language skills.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;1798398]Hi Cucumber,
Thanks for an excellent and detailed reports.
This beautiful girl Julia in Karamel lists her rate as 4000 rubles or about only $65 per hour in 2015, because the ruble lost half of its value last year. This is a very good deal.
Wonder if the selections and pricings are even better in Moscow and other cities in Russia?[/QUOTE]
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Outstanding report Cucumber.
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Vipsoski. Me
This site [URL]https://vipsoski.me[/URL] seems to feature lots of interesting profiles. Did anyone try this site? Are the profiles with videos more believable?
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Very good and useful report! I am now planning to visit some Salons in SP. But I read some report on the internet about high HIV infection rate among sex workers in SP, even 50%, So do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that except for condom? Thanks!
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
General remarks.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to inquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a land line and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.
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I really hope someone chimes in with current info about HIV risk. 50%? Really?
I found a clever solution for calling from a russian cell# outside Russia. The first time I went to Russia last year, I purchased a local SIM card. Then, I registered the number for calling line identification on my Skype account. Then, I was able to negotiate and inquire with a salon using my Skype account just prior to my arrival while appearing to be in Russia. It allowed me to hit the ground running with potential arrangenents made for my first day. Once I returned to SPB, I just recharged my SIM, continued using it and no one knew the difference. I suppose my cover could have been blown if they had called me back prior to arrival but it didn't seem to happen.
[QUOTE=Alexy9915;1809101]Very good and useful report! I am now planning to visit some Salons in SP. But I read some report on the internet about high HIV infection rate among sex workers in SP, even 50%, So do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that except for condom? Thanks!
The AM chain has lots of really beautiful girls, almost exclusively 8's and 9's, especially if you like buxom 170-180 cm girls with firm breasts and not a blemish, but lots of restrictions (no chance of kissing or BBBJ, not even DATY). DATY and kissing are my vocation in life, so I avoid the AM chain like the pest.
I also avoid strip bars like the pest. If you want to watch beautiful women, look at porn. If you want to get rid of money, burn it or throw it in the Neva River or give it to somebody poor. But why pay huge amounts of money to look at women whom you can hardly touch, when you can have wild, intense sex with attractive women for a lot less. Beats me.
General remarks.
A salon is a Russian-style brothel, usually located in a large apartment in a regular residential building. At all of these establishments, you need to make a prior appointment by phone. When you get in, you are met by an administratorsha (female admin), take off your shoes, you will usually be offered flip-flops or slippers, are shown to a room and sit down there and wait there alone for one or more girls to present themselves (often entering and exiting the room one at a time and just saying their name, giving you little time to look or strike up a conversation), afterwards the administratorsha comes back in, whereupon you tell her your choice. If you don't like any of the girls you are free to leave. They may try to talk you into staying, but this is up to you. Your chosen girl then comes back, receives your payment and shows you the way to the shower. She may take a shower at the same time as you (in a different bathroom), or afterwards (in which case you are left alone in the bedroom again for a while), or she may have just taken a shower after the last client. They usually try hard to avoid clients meeting each other in the hallway when they arrive, go to the shower, or depart as it would be seen as indiscreet. I often leave my clothes and valuables in the bedroom while I go and shower. I have done this many times, and never had any problems anywhere with theft.
For a few days of salon hopping you will need: a Russian SIM card with internet access, a Russian taxi app installed on your phone (similar to Uber; Gett and Yandex are two good ones for Petersburg and Moscow), some Cialis (sold without a prescription by Russian pharmacies) and Russian language skills. It is important to have a Russian SIM card because you will need to first call the salons to inquire whether they will receive you, and then, once you have arrived at the designated address, to get guidance on how to identify the right entrance and get into the building. Thus if you are calling from a foreign mobile it will be expensive and your number may look suspicious to them. If you first call from a land line and then a mobile, they can't recognize your number as the guy who called and made an appointment a little while ago. It is also highly useful to use Google maps on your phone to find your way around.
If you don't' speak Russian, it would be best to have the help of a local (see also the point on foreign accents below). The ideal for a non-Russian speaker might be a combined driver / interpreter / secretary who spoke English and Russian and thus could make calls for you, drive you where necessary, help you find the correct entrance and floor and pick you up again afterwards. This will obviously drive prices up.[/QUOTE]
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HIV rate in Petersburg
[QUOTE=Meesee;1810459]I really hope someone chimes in with current info about HIV risk. 50%? Really? ... [/QUOTE]Since nobody has risen to the occasion, I will try to address this question. If you want some information about HIV in Russia, this is a good place to start: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Russia[/URL].
To me, 50% HIV positive prostitutes sounds like a high number. In any case I expect it is difficult to give an even remotely accurate number, because there are so many different groups of prostitutes, ranging from impoverished, low-class, drug-abusing streetwalkers at tochkas on the outskirts of the city to high-class and sometimes highly educated escorts. And a lot of different categories in between. I get the impression that NGOs and agencies involved in fighting HIV tend to base their data on the former rather than the latter. And have an intrinsic interest in exaggerating the situation.
Having said that, there is no doubt that Russia has a serious problem with HIV and AIDS. Intravenous drug use is one big component, but heterosexual contraction is playing a growing (and already big) role. HIV carries a much bigger stigma in Russia than in most Western countries, so the problem is largely hidden and as you know you cannot tell from looking at (or having sex with) someone whether they are infected or not. If you sleep with tens or hundreds of working girls, as I and many other people on this site do, it is highly likely that you have slept with people who were HIV positive. If you consistently use condoms for penetrative sex (vaginal and anal) the risk is very low, if the condoms are of good quality and you know how to use them. I don't know of any other way of securing oneself. Sleeping with prostitutes without a condom is a very high risk activity in Russia and I would say anywhere, and also deeply unethical (possibly more so than involuntary forced sex or sleeping with girls not of legal age). The idiots on ISG bragging about their BBFS to me sound more like feminist imposters trying to denigrate mongering. But I am afraid that is unfortunately not what they are.
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I am at Saint Pete now, staying at a private flat just north of city centre.
My first stop this week so far has been at xxxmassage. Ru. This is my third visit there this year. Not since my initial visit in 2014, reported previously, have I been offered FS. This time, I bought the full package for two hours with Yuli just to see what would transpire. It eventually led to a very, very long handjob. There are limits to this and quickly reached a point of diminishing returns. I still haven't worked out how to get as far as I did my first magical visit but I keep trying. It's worth the rub7500. The women at Pioneerskaya are beautiful albeit not as generous as hoped.
My next stop as been markizaspb. Org Gostinom Dvore for a few hours of Arisha. She's a real stunner, 9. 5 with plenty of energy. She left no stone unturned. Great few hours of full service for rub7000. I plan to try their Bosstaniya location tomorrow if the right girls are there. This agency seems to be the best found so far for FS.
Last night I also gave Maximus a try. There were a LOT of uglies there. I managed a few private dances with the fw 8 or 9's that I saw but reaching them took some time trying to get past the throng of disappointments. I recommend anyone going there to bring no less than 30 (rub100 notes to get past each hustler one at a time. But was unable to negotiate a hotel room session with any of the stunners though there were many offers from several I was not desperate enough to yake home.
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Anyone ever do a long term stay in st pete (1-2 years) or is that nuts with how cold and dark the winters are there? Wondering if expats have only visited for a few months or actually try to live for a few years to enjoy the city and mongering.
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Long Term Stay
You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square.
This year it's been unusually warm in Piter, until just recently, with little snow. Usually there is snow and ice on the streets by this time and quite cold and often quite windy. In the summers it can be quite hot and, depending on where your staying, there can be a lot of tiny, aggressive, mosquitoes. Piter has suicidal mosquitoes. They will land on you, bite you, and stay biting you until they finish or until you kill them. For variation, you can go to one of the small islands and find giant mosquitoes. Which the locals claim were produced by all the chemical waste left on the islands over the years. Rumor has it one or more of these islands plays host to raves each summer.
As far as mongering goes, there are lots of posts in this section and in the Moscow section (the two cities most people go to) addressing various aspects of it. The situation may be trending pro-mongering however, as the extended slump in the Russian economy may be biting into "normal" people's budgets, and "normal" girls may start considering the occasional meeting with gift a go-to option, like it was back in the "day" before the Putin led recovery. A few hours ago I was able to exchange dollars for 74.3 rubles. The ruble has been trading in the 60's and 70's against the dollar now for about a year, and forecasts aren't good for 2016. Personally, I still use Mamba to find girls occasionally in Piter. In the completely un-scientific impression category, this trip it has seemed to me more girls replied on Mamba than previously, with prices being quoted as low as 5000r for 1-2 hours, though most of the girls who seemed to be independents and not some salon hustler wanted anywhere from 10-20000r.
[QUOTE=Jon32;1823041]Anyone ever do a long term stay in st pete (1-2 years) or is that nuts with how cold and dark the winters are there? Wondering if expats have only visited for a few months or actually try to live for a few years to enjoy the city and mongering.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1823190]You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square...[/QUOTE]I can not agree more with your impression on Moscow and SP. I just come back from SP and Moscow, and my feelings is totally same, dark clouds all day long, but I think the biggest problem is still language! You may had some misunderstands even when you buy a train ticket at ticket office if you can not speak Russian.
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Struggling in SPB
Hey guys,
As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate!
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Maximus
What is the regular price for a hotel date with a hot girl from Maximus?
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[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1823190]You cannot stay in Russia for a year or longer without leaving the country and reentering it. I'm too lazy to check the visa rules, but there is also a limit to the total number of days you can spend in Russia each year. I visit Russia 6-8 times each year, with stays varying between 10 days and 35 days, with a business visa. When I visit other cities, and my work contacts in those cities have to register my visa, someone actually does count the number of days I've been in Russia to see if I'm in danger of exceeding the max, so sometimes at least it's taken seriously.
I rent an apartment owned by a local and shop in nearby markets, cook in the apartment, etc. Presently, it's dirt cheap for me to live here.
There are a few members who post in the Moscow section who are basically expats. You might post your question there and see what their answers are to staying in Russia long term as well.
I'm in Piter now, January 2016. It becomes dark about 16.00 and light around 10.00, so your lucky to have 6 hours or so of sunlight. If it's overcast, it can seem dark the entire day. Piter weather is notoriously unpredictable and unhealthy, as it can be cold with high humidity, and this time of year the streets and metro, busses, etc are full of people coughing and hacking. Everyone in Piter complains about two things, the weather and Moscow. About a week ago it was +7c. Today it was -25 c. Moscow is hated because, well, basically it's a dump, the people there are obnoxious, and the metro is a labyrinth full of zombies, and, more to the point, every Russian not living in Moscow resents the fact that tax money is taken from their regions and sent to Moscow to try and make Moscow look good (a hopeless task). For example, when I was in a mid sized southern Russian city a few weeks ago, everyone was bitter about the fact that their city had no money for New Years decorations, because, so they claimed, the money had gone to Moscow to decorate Red Square.
This year it's been unusually warm in Piter, until just recently, with little snow. Usually there is snow and ice on the streets by this time and quite cold and often quite windy. In the summers it can be quite hot and, depending on where your staying, there can be a lot of tiny, aggressive, mosquitoes. Piter has suicidal mosquitoes. They will land on you, bite you, and stay biting you until they finish or until you kill them. For variation, you can go to one of the small islands and find giant mosquitoes. Which the locals claim were produced by all the chemical waste left on the islands over the years. Rumor has it one or more of these islands plays host to raves each summer.
As far as mongering goes, there are lots of posts in this section and in the Moscow section (the two cities most people go to) addressing various aspects of it. The situation may be trending pro-mongering however, as the extended slump in the Russian economy may be biting into "normal" people's budgets, and "normal" girls may start considering the occasional meeting with gift a go-to option, like it was back in the "day" before the Putin led recovery. A few hours ago I was able to exchange dollars for 74.3 rubles. The ruble has been trading in the 60's and 70's against the dollar now for about a year, and forecasts aren't good for 2016. Personally, I still use Mamba to find girls occasionally in Piter. In the completely un-scientific impression category, this trip it has seemed to me more girls replied on Mamba than previously, with prices being quoted as low as 5000r for 1-2 hours, though most of the girls who seemed to be independents and not some salon hustler wanted anywhere from 10-20000r.[/QUOTE]Amazing answer. I always thought ISG was a better travel guide than any other site.
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Aids ect.
It is BTW not olny HIV. Lets not underestimate papillovirus (that can lead to cancer in some cases), chlamydias, herpes etc. So I agree with you that the situation is serious.
[QUOTE=Cucumber;1820555] Sleeping with prostitutes without a condom is a very high risk activity in Russia and I would say anywhere, and also deeply unethical (possibly more so than involuntary forced sex or sleeping with girls not of legal age). The idiots on ISG bragging about their BBFS to me sound more like feminist imposters trying to denigrate mongering. But I am afraid that is unfortunately not what they are.[/QUOTE]
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Seeking Advice on best hotels & clubs for semi pro girls?
Planning on a trip to SPG. Just wondering what hotels are recommended for taking girls (Girl friendly)? Also seeking advice on which clubs to hit for semi pro girls?
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How to get to the salon
[QUOTE=Atxzhang;1823529]Hey guys,
As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate![/QUOTE]My first time in Russia, not a novice then, I got the taxi driver to ring, and then take me to the salon, he got me to the door and left me to it. Most taxi's have a brochure.
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[QUOTE=JcFromNz;1824702]My first time in Russia, not a novice then, I got the taxi driver to ring, and then take me to the salon, he got me to the door and left me to it. Most taxi's have a brochure.[/QUOTE]Pretty much the same method I used. The bellman at The W would call / confirm who's working and get the address, then I just plugged it into Uber and we were off. All of the Uber drivers even walked me to the door to make sure I made it. I also speak zero Russian.
Drama.
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[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;1823529]As a newcomer to the world of mongering, I think I have overstretched in coming to Russia, where I'm not overly familiar with the language. My first day in SPB and I'm really struggling to organise anything with salons, outcall or anything of the sorts. Would really appreciate any help you more experienced guys could give. Thanks in advance, and I promise reports should anything eventuate![/QUOTE]Sorry if this reply comes too late. I would find a taxi driver who spoke some English, and pay him to help you call one of the Markiza salons or one of the Karamelki salons (perhaps from his own phone) and accompany you to the the door (not the door to the building, but the last door into the apartment where the girls are). Once you're in it is pretty much point and shoot, and it is not dangerous. There are several apps for getting reasonable taxis in Petersburg and I would use one of them to find a helpful driver.
I vaguely recall there was also a Russian guy on this forum a few months ago advertising guiding for mongers or something like that. Better to spend some money on someone like that than to go home empty-handed.
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Post SPB report
After what started out as quite a struggle, I managed a few successful visit (despite the very little advice given despite the wonderful report by Cucumber), and as promised, here is the report. I'll classify this report with some information. First time in Russia, quite literally 0 Russian. Couldn't say Hi in Russian if my life depended on it. Will not be posting addresses or names of places or salons, PM me if you want the details.
First thing I did when I got here, buy a sim card (with help of translator) 3 GB for 250 RUB. Such a life saver, and in my experience, essential. The translator I got wasn't as helpful, as I never felt comfortable asking him for help anything mongering related. It certainly could work, it was just personally I did newest feel comfortable asking mine.
I started off messaging girls I found on Rusdosug (using proxies) but got no replies (even a few who listed being able to speak English, more on this later). I then tried calling a few salons in the area, also no use, as none I called spoke no English.
After calling a lot more salons, there were two that had madams who spoken English (I actually found three, but once I actually arrived at the address provided, the English speaking girl I spoke to was no longer there to provide me further instructions on how to actually get in, and I got the "no English" hang-up and had to just turn back). I also found messaging salons in Russian (literally google translating phrases) worked and got a few responses. A lot of madams complained to me later about how it was still difficult to understand my messages, but would recommend this to anyone who also speaks 0 Russian. Couldn't work out the full phone number of Markiza, so never was able to contact them. I ended up visiting all the Karamelki branches however.
The first salon I managed to visit was near Nevsky Pros, and the madam spoke good English, after a bit of getting lost, I made my way there. I had quite mixed experiences here, the girls on my first visit were really good (and I'm usually very picky). Sometimes there weren't many girls, my first time there was only 1 available, and 3 available the following time, 2 of which were stunners. I usually prefer petite girl next door type looks, but certainly don't mind a taller girl if she's got a good figure. The girl from the first time seemed new, open to kissing and extremely passionate and appeared to genuinely enjoy herself. Tall, skinny, but youthful look and long black hair. Her body wasn't as nice as the two girls the following time, but very nice. She didn't 'perform' as much, but I prefer it when a girl enjoys herself, great experience. The girls from the second time were both energetic, one even spoke a fair bit of English, so we chatted briefly afterwards, but neither offered FK. The other spoke no English, but more than made up for it in enthusiasm and energy. Both model like, tall and elegant, they were both wonderful. I kept being stunned by the English speaking girl; how stunning she was in just about every way, she seemed a little distant before we started but was very passionate once we started. She quite honestly, by far the most attractive girl I've visited on this trip. I went there one more time afterwards, and saw what must have been close to the full range of girls (9 in all), including the first girls I saw, and none of them other than her were that appealing. Damage: 5000 RUB an hour including CBJ, 1500 extra for BBBJ.
My second salon was a Karamelki branch. I went there earlier in the night after texting the madam for address (to which she replied and provided entire address and instructions succinctly in one text), she responded to other questions for a while, but once I arrived, she stopped replying and told me to return later at a specified time, prompting me that more girls would be free then. And she was right! When I returned, I think I got to pick from the whole lot! At least 6 girls to choose from, it was incredible! A smaller petite girl caught my eye, she looked blonde under the (lack of) light, but was a actually light brunette, Very tight body, and youthful look. I didn't pay as much attention to the other girls after that, but most were fit, tall brunettes who I would have been happy with. The girl offered a great performance, but also no FK, we talked briefly using my phone to translate, lovely girl. Damage: 4000 RUB and I gave a very small tip to the madam for putting up with my relentless messaging all night.
My other visits were usually in pursuit of specific girls who had caught my eye on the Karamelki website and it was a bit hit and miss. Most were as pictured (or very close to) and for some others, I can only imagine it had been some time since the photos had been taken. One who was advertised as a blonde was now a brunette (party girl personality, great English and good figure), another had clearly put on a bit of weight since the photo of and impeccable and petite figure was taken (but gave the best hand job of my life). In some cases the girl I had requested was no longer available and so I had to pick out of who was still available as I was often too embarrassed and / or lazy to leave without something to show for the trip out to the salon.
Also visited a strip club, and ended up spending nearly 4000 RUB. 1000 cover charge, 1000 on alcohol (beer for me and a Long Island Iced Tea for a English speaking girl who started talking to me) and 2000 on a hookah pipe. A few very attractive girls, and I was told taking a girl away for the night would be 20,000 30,000 depending on the girl and how busy it was. Decided it wasn't good value and never went back again.
I did also visit another salon right on Nevsky on my first night, there were two girls, neither appealing at all, so I simply left without any problems. Weirdly, another number I contacted for outcall service also pointed me towards the same salon. I politely declined based on the selection available when I went. But even weirder, the outcall number (who claimed to 'arrange' outcall) quoted a much higher price for even the incalls for the salon (from 3000 RUB advertised by salon, to 7000 original quoted price and 5000 when I called them out on it).
Another few pieces of advice for (other) newbies (/ summary of information already posted or available):
My personal experience is the outcall are harder to arrange (unless you have a relationship with the salon), and only one of the outcall I contacted (not too many, but a fair few) replied to my messages (google translated to Russian), and it turned out to be a bait and switch, though the second girl they sent (claiming the first girl was a mix-up) was okay, but not worth the higher rate. 7000 RUB. Salons often for a higher rate, have a longer min. Booking length or ask you to pay for taxi (or some combination thereof).
I had very little success with individuals through Rusdosug, but information on salons is useful, Rusprostitutes (usually the first website you find on google) was practically useless for me (it was where I found the bait and switch) and now I also think the prices are little bit unrealistic (in terms of rates quoted).
Persist, if you don't get many (or any) replies, keep looking, the market is out there, non-Russian speakers just have to work a bit harder. Getting a local to help would make things a lot easier, but I found no easy way to find someone (I didn't like the idea of just asking hotel reception, or asking just anybody, I really like the idea of asking the taxi driver, although I never got around to it / had the guts to ask).
Get a local SIM, it's so cheap and makes organizing things yourself without help possible. I personally found it useful to turn on request message status on my phone, to know which numbers were right / real and who I actually managed to contact (the regional codes are confusing!
If a site posts pictures of girls with their faces, it's probably a fake. Honestly, I was optimistic at first, but from experience, the ones with faces are all dead ends / bait and switch and the ones with blurred faces are usually real photos (I've certainly met ones who was advertised online)!
I ended up extending my stay in SPB, and am glad I did. Summarizing my experience: SPB isn't really a bargain basement destination (which I'm starting to feel Germany, Thailand and Romania may be more like from what I've been told / read). Based on prices in UK and other Western countries I'm familiar with, it's still quite cost effective. You can get girls that would usually be 'Premium VIP models' who might charge GBP200+ for just 5000 RUB. Hotels are also cheaper, but personally, although I want to come back, it's still not cost effective for a purely mongering focused trip (as I have to stay for a while to get my travel costs worth, you do your own maths). The city is however beautiful, and I thoroughly enjoyed my time here in general. In terms of quality, with a bit of persistence, there's some great quality girls. Yet to find my perfect 10 (as I'the hoped), but the girls here in general are very attractive, and I've certainly seen a few perfect 10's in the streets and cafes. I hope to come back in the future and try experimenting a bit more, but until then.
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[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;1826729]After what started out as quite a struggle, I managed a few successful visit (despite the very little advice given despite the wonderful report by Cucumber), and as promised, here is the report. I'll classify this report with some information. First time in Russia, quite literally 0 Russian. Couldn't say Hi in Russian if my life depended on it. Will not be posting addresses or names of places or salons, PM me if you want the details. [/QUOTE]Well done, braving the Russian scene can be extremely challenging for somebody who doesn't know the place or the language and you have demonstrated great tenacity. I also think your observations are highly astute.
Cucumber.
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[QUOTE=ManchesterCat;1826729]
Couldn't work out the full phone number of Markiza, so never was able to contact them. I ended up visiting all the Karamelki branches however.
[/QUOTE]Just returned from a few weeks in Saint Petersburg.
I posted the issue concerning Markiza's phone numbers previously. The dialing code for all of the numbers posted on their web site is (921).
I figured this out, discovering that there was one page on the web site that included (921) with the phone number. Curiously, I note as I write this that they have removed (921) from their web site. I can't find it anywhere! Perhaps they are using this piece of information to filter out the non-local, non-russian speaking clients? In any case, I saw it as a puzzle to be solved.
Before figuring this out, I was attempting to use (812), the standard dialing code for non-cell numbers. After doing so, I got the impression that the owners of those numbers have NOTHING to do with salons and receive hundreds of non-russian callers.
(921) appears to be a default cell dialing code for business who use a cell number for their main business phone service. Megaphone seems to be by far the most common cell company they use. Then I started noticing adverts on buses, newspapers and elsewhere that only include 7 digits for their contact number. Much of the time, this seems to imply (921). This worked for me, for example, when calling an industrial parts distributor for work.
I found that once I called Markiza with a minimal amount of Russian language skills, they were happy to switch to SMS with both of us google translating the SMS on our cellphones to negotiate the arrangements.
Hope this helps.
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Avoid Don Juan nev pros
Made the mistake of visiting this strip club today. It's on Nevsky pros, slightly ahead of Burger King. There is just a street board on the road and the club is a bit inside. There was a tall girl and a couple of other guys handling over flyers. Apart from the other high promises, she said the erotic massages are also available starting 2000 rubles. Paid the 500 as entry and went in. Club itself is small. There were 5 girls taking turns on the pole. After some time one girl sat next to me, speaking passable English. Soon she starts asking for a drink, which I avoid for some time. When I asked her for the massage, I got the first shock. It starts at 5000! I should have walked out then, but didn't. Tried bargaining with the price, she kept declining and kept asking for a drink. Finally when she understood that I would not shell out 5000, she went in and came back saying that as a special price of 3000, she would do the massage. I accepted, God knows why! Paid 3000 at the counter and was asked for 150 more for the sheet! What? Anyway, went in a private room undressed and she changed up to her panties. She started the massage by applying cream, but she did not know m of massage. She played with my tool a bit, but not much. After about 20 minutes, there was knocking on the door, and she said 'time is up'. Again what? She said that the time was less since it was for 3000!! Knew immediately that I've been had. While I tried to reason with her, it was with the know that it would not work. Being a non local, there seemed to be no point in fighting it out. May have only complicated things further. Kept cursing myself. When will I learn!
Back at my hotel on never start after the nightmare. Guys, please help. Am here till this weekend. Some pointers to massage, sex etc would help in overcoming this incident before moving on to Moscow.
Thanks a ton!
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[QUOTE=Meesee;1832693]Just returned from a few weeks in Saint Petersburg.
I posted the issue concerning Markiza's phone numbers previously. The dialing code for all of the numbers posted on their web site is (921).
I figured this out, discovering that there was one page on the web site that included (921) with the phone number. Curiously, I note as I write this that they have removed (921) from their web site. I can't find it anywhere! Perhaps they are using this piece of information to filter out the non-local, non-russian speaking clients? In any case, I saw it as a puzzle to be solved.
Before figuring this out, I was attempting to use (812), the standard dialing code for non-cell numbers. After doing so, I got the impression that the owners of those numbers have NOTHING to do with salons and receive hundreds of non-russian callers.
(921) appears to be a default cell dialing code for business who use a cell number for their main business phone service. Megaphone seems to be by far the most common cell company they use. Then I started noticing adverts on buses, newspapers and elsewhere that only include 7 digits for their contact number. Much of the time, this seems to imply (921). This worked for me, for example, when calling an industrial parts distributor for work.
I found that once I called Markiza with a minimal amount of Russian language skills, they were happy to switch to SMS with both of us google translating the SMS on our cellphones to negotiate the arrangements.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Tried called markiza (ligovsky) from both foreign and local SIMs.
http://markizaspb.org/index.php/saloon
956-08-93
The phone number didn't work from either phone (nb has previously worked fine from both)
Any ideas what is the correct (full) number to use?
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[QUOTE=Tiger888;1842299]Tried called markiza (ligovsky) from both foreign and local SIMs.
http://markizaspb.org/index.php/saloon
956-08-93
The phone number didn't work from either phone (nb has previously worked fine from both)
Any ideas what is the correct (full) number to use?[/QUOTE]And (921) 956-08-93, does it work? You need a dialing code in front of it.
Look on this page on the web site for the Prosveshenya location (sorry, wish I could post russian letters, but you'll have to figure it out) http://markizaspb.org/index.php/prosvet
(http markizaspb dot org slash index dot php slash prosvet)
Look on the upper right corner of the page and you will see (921) 956-08-93
Only on that salon location page you will see (921). Try using that (921) dialing code for the other locations also.
If on a Russian SIM card, I think the actual digits to dial on your phone would be 8-921-956-08-93
If on a foreign SIMcard, try +7 921 956-08-93
Not sure how to dial it from a Russian land phone but perhaps try doing a little net research or asking an english speaking local
I will be back over in a few months and will report back confirm this but that is what I recall I did on last trip.
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Shooting porn in spb
It's been quite a bit of time since I reported on st Petersburg. I've been here a few times and also to other Eastern European countries shooting since my last report. I thought that I would write a brief report of my recent trip to spb here for those that are interested. A more detailed report of one of the scenes I put in the anal connoisseur section as it's an anal scene.
Friday evening I arrive in spb. First thing is to check into apartment and then get some food as I have a shoot next day it's an early night.
Saturday up for breakfast. For the last year it's been really cheap here for eating out and food. Unfortunately due to the ease of Russian girls getting to Europe and the number of rich guys prices have not decreased in dollar terms. What has happened is that there are far more girls wanting to shoot. As ever quality is variable but some of those girls you don't necessarily want straight away are the best in the sack. Today I'm shooting a threesome, it's classical sex which means no anal. The girls turn up. They both get a shower and change into requested clothes. High heels, short skirts and sexy underwear. We go to the bedroom and start shooting by the end of the scene I cum into one of the girls mouths and she swallows. End of scene 1 one blonde and one brunette. Both between 18 and 23. Life is good. Saturday night I meet a friend for a drink and then back to apartment ready for more shoots.
Sunday. Cameragirl turns up with blonde girl from yesterday at 2 pm. This is going to be a much longer anal scene that the day before. We do an interview at the beginning of the scene. This girl is good very open and interesting to talk to and it's a good start. This was going to be a long scene will be 50 minutes of film so we need to shoot over an hour of pure sex. Also I have asked for 2 cumshots and this was agreed. I'm not interested in photos just video. But take some behind the scenes shots on my mobile phone. We do 3 normal sex positions and then we move to anal. Another 3 positions here and about 30 minutes of film. Again I finish in her mouth which she swallows. We've gone on much longer than expected so I leave the second cumshot out of this scen e. She earnt her money with the anal hammering.
Monday. See the anal connoisseurs section for this scene in detail and pictures of the girl. Evening I get taken by some business contacts to the ballet. Spend most of my time watching the great blonde in front of me. Unfortunately she's with boyfriend, fortunately they are having a big argument, typical of Russians, unfortunately at the end of the performance she rushes out.
Tuesday. Rest day. Some sightseeing and off to club with friends meet a nice blonde there. She is interested and she comes back to mine. It helps to have learnt Russian over the years. Not great sex as we are both pissed. Wednesday morning a lot of aspirin and water. Followed up by a bit of viagra to get me through the scene. Hoping this cocktail won't kill me.
Wednesday. Another long anal scene with a girl who has shot for legal porno in Prague. An anal scene for 50 minutes is no problem for her. Interview at the beginning is ok. She tells me off camera that she just does porn for money not for anything else. I wonder what her boyfriend thinks when she comes back unable to sit down as she said she did from Prague. Again this is all said matter of fact. Tuesday evening one of my long standing girls in spb she's a retired porno actress Amanda comes over when I in spb. She doesn't discuss it and she is glad she has stopped. Sex with her is good as she's very soft and it's relaxing not like porn at all.
Thursday. Another rest day but I allowed the camera girl to use my apartment for her own shoots. A boy girl, solo and new casting. Always interesting to meet a girl for the first time before she's started shooting. I think she will be a star. Wants to shoot with her bg and solo scenes but she has such personality. Am sure she will move on to boy girl. The actor in the boy girl scene I worked with 3 years ago and we go out for a beer in the evening. Good guy to talk with.
Friday. Another boy girl anal scene. The girl is a bit cold but it's a good scene. She again has worked in mainland Europe but I pay far less than she would get there. I pound her ass for 25 minutes and finish the first cumshot on her face. The second on her tits. It is addictive. In the evening I went out with one of my firiends, his GF and a beautiful blonde his GF wants to set me up with. No sex tonight (not that I need it) but think it went ok. A lead for my next trip.
Saturday. The cameragirl comes over this time with one of the girls she only shoots in solo scenes. Neither want to be on film but for a bit of cash they are happy to have sex off it. Who can argue with that. After we spend 3 hours together I need to go. Off to tye airport and flight home. Back in home country I sleep for 2 days totally sexed out.
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Maximus Price
I try again. Please let me know what is a good deal here.
[QUOTE=Dick1;1823574]What is the regular price for a hotel date with a hot girl from Maximus?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dick1;1850151]I try again. Please let me know what is a good deal here.[/QUOTE]It varies but most quote $500 "all night" but it really isn't all night. I have taken 2 home from there. The norm seems to be, for that price, 3 hours give or take.
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Shower show
[QUOTE=Meesee;1852605]It varies but most quote $500 "all night" but it really isn't all night. I have taken 2 home from there. The norm seems to be, for that price, 3 hours give or take.[/QUOTE]Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?
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[QUOTE=Dick1;1857589]Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?[/QUOTE]I've never gotten lucky in the private room but maybe someone else has been more fortunate.
While there are some real stunners there, most are to be completely avoided. I previously posted here someone else's recommendation of going in with a stack of Rub 1000 notes to tip the ugly throng but I didn't realize the exchange rate when I wrote it. Now I'm not sure what a reasonable tip is to get rid of them. Can anyone recommend? Rub 1000 seems like way too much (trust me, you'd have to see them to appreciate what I mean). Rub 100 ? Rub 500?
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Visiting SPB
Dear mongers,
I am visiting St Petersburg in may and likely to be there for a month. Can some fellow mongered guide me about good night clubs where I can hitch a ride. Or some spas or saloons. I want to make maximum from this visit and want to make this memorable one. Will be staying in Nevesky Pros. Kindly help. I would be taking membership soon.
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Girl looking for escort work in spb
One of the porn girls I know in spb is looking for escort work in spb. If you are interested in meeting her let me know and just for information I am doing this as a favor for her. I will not get paid. If you DM me I can send more details but she is very early 20's, nice body with brunette hair.
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What's the difference between St Pete and Moscow?
In terms of dating potential, attitude of the girls, out of townees originally from the provinces. ? In terms of the freebies scene that is. Not P4 P.
Demographic deference between st Pete and Moscow? Ratio of young women, student population, etc.
Difficulty level making it in the city for young girls from the provinces? Is it easier in St Pete than in Moscow?
Any insights will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
It just seems to me lately that many of the girls I met hope to move to St Pete as opposed to Moscow after finishing uni. That is if they don't win the green card lottery to the US, hahaha.
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[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1865958]In terms of dating potential, attitude of the girls, out of townees originally from the provinces. ? In terms of the freebies scene that is. Not P4 P.
Demographic deference between st Pete and Moscow? Ratio of young women, student population, etc.
Difficulty level making it in the city for young girls from the provinces? Is it easier in St Pete than in Moscow?
Any insights will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
It just seems to me lately that many of the girls I met hope to move to St Pete as opposed to Moscow after finishing uni. That is if they don't win the green card lottery to the US, hahaha.[/QUOTE]JP,
I asked a follow up question to your post the other day about cost of living in re to Jakes post, I wish I could discuss this further with you?
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Difference between spb and Moscow girls
Obviously this is just my opinion and if anyone has a different opinion that is great. I think a lot of the generalizations about the difference in the cities is actually seen in the girls. I have dated girls form both cities and I prefer the spb girls. Although in my own country it tends to be Moscow girls I date. Also it is not about where the girl is born but where she has chosen to live. There are a number of girls I know in spb who have chosen to move to Moscow and now I see the Moscow traits in them. Girls from Moscow tend to be more ambitious and harder headed than the girls in spb who are more cultural and more dreamers. I don't really notice a difference in beauty between the two cities. Although on more than one occasion I have met russian guys from Moscow in bars in spb who say the spb girls are reputed to be more beautiful than the Moscow girls.
As for students I think there is a higher proportion in spb per capita of population. It feels like every building is a university there. This gives plenty of opportunity for dating. Also spb is a poorer city so not so many oligarchs snapping up the girls. There are a lot of spb girls who do commute to Moscow for their sponsor.
I would always want to marry an spb girl over Moscow because I think they are more my type.
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[QUOTE=Dick1;1857589]Thank you Meesee.
This is quite expensive!
Do you or someone have some experience with private show? Can you get anything extra either in the room or in the shower?[/QUOTE]I spent one night there with 3 or 4 of the best girls I saw in a private show. I think it was 4000 rub for 2 songs. Nothing else beyond the basic dance and a light grind was offered. All insisted that nothing else could be offered there. None of the hottest were willing to go back to the hotel. Several uglies tried everything to persuade me to accept their office for something back at the hotel but I wouldn't have any of them.
Other nights, I have had better luck taking them back to the hotel.
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My hero
[QUOTE=Jonners;1850037]It's been quite a bit of time since I reported on st Petersburg. I've been here a few times and also to other Eastern European countries shooting since my last report. I thought that I would write a brief report of my recent trip to spb here for those that are interested. A more detailed report of one of the scenes I put in the anal connoisseur section as it's an anal scene.
Friday evening I arrive in spb. First thing is to check into apartment and then get some food as I have a shoot next day it's an early night.
Saturday up for breakfast. For the last year it's been really cheap here for eating out and food. Unfortunately due to the ease of Russian girls getting to Europe and the number of rich guys prices have not decreased in dollar terms. What has happened is that there are far more girls wanting to shoot. As ever quality is variable but some of those girls you don't necessarily want straight away are the best in the sack. Today I'm shooting a threesome, it's classical sex which means no anal. The girls turn up. They both get a shower and change into requested clothes. High heels, short skirts and sexy underwear. We go to the bedroom and start shooting by the end of the scene I cum into one of the girls mouths and she swallows. End of scene 1 one blonde and one brunette. Both between 18 and 23. Life is good. Saturday night I meet a friend for a drink and then back to apartment ready for more shoots.
Sunday. Cameragirl turns up with blonde girl from yesterday at 2 pm. This is going to be a much longer anal scene that the day before. We do an interview at the beginning of the scene. This girl is good very open and interesting to talk to and it's a good start...[/QUOTE]Wow man this is amazing when I grow up I want to be like you! Seriously. Maybe you can help me out I am debating a trip to either Saint Petersburg -Budapest. Bulgaria Sofia. I would really like to film my sessions for personal keeping hell if I could show for porn yeah. But there are rules, law to all. I would really like to have an experience like yours although I understand my contact limitations. You response will be greatly appreciated and if in Miami I'll make sure the beers are Ice cold as my ex wife's heart.
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Looking for a good massage
Hi there,
I'm in STP for some time and would like to get some good massages. Does anybody have any experience and can give some advice? Also does anybody have some experience with I-Spa?
Thanks for the help!
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Trip report
I visited saint Petersburg in June 2014 for 2 days didn't write report at that time as I was new to forum.
I take the cruise from Helsinki by Peterlines to st Petersburg, it took a night to reach SPB, I reached in morning, no visa required if you arrive by cruise and have multiple Schengen visa. After arriving get money from ATM took shuttle to city center, from there took taxi to my hotel Holiday Inn Moskovsky Vorota. It is a big hotel and girl friendly sometime you have take girls from outside the hotel to your room. I reached hotel and than started calling number from rusdosug website, I called a number which later I found of Eros club, the woman speak good English, and I asked her to send any good girl, so she send masha, an OK girl reached my room in 3 o minutes, it was 6000 for 2 hrs. Had 2 session but the girl was heavy smoker could not tolerate the smell.
After some hour and called the same number but this time asked about the girl from their page on rusdosug which I found from previous girl. She was 19 year old. She arrived after 1. 5 hrs as she was busy, she was indeed slim girl but had pimples on face which blurred on web page, had nice 2 sessions and let her go. Late in the night I went to the club XXX which was part of hotel but it was dead, than saw two OK looking girls in lobby tried to talk but they refused to talk. They were working girls but talked with only Russians.
Day 2.
I started to call different number but most hang up after listening English, than I booked a girl but she totally different when she come, send her back, after they send back 2 more girls. After these scams I searched for expensive girls and done a deal with a girl at 1200 for 2 hrs. She arrived in 30 min was same as pics, slim, had 3 sessions with her in 2 hrs and than she left good experience. After that I call another girl from Eros but send her back as she was very fat.
Day 3.
Took a city tour and than to cruise terminal back to Helsinki.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1865783]One of the porn girls I know in spb is looking for escort work in spb. If you are interested in meeting her let me know and just for information I am doing this as a favor for her. I will not get paid. If you DM me I can send more details but she is very early 20's, nice body with brunette hair.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM but you never answer.
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[QUOTE=Cheema;1875856]I visited saint Petersburg in June 2014 for 2 days didn't write report at that time as I was new to forum.
I take the cruise from Helsinki by Peterlines to st Petersburg, it took a night to reach SPB, I reached in morning, no visa required if you arrive by cruise and have multiple Schengen visa. After arriving get money from ATM took shuttle to city center, from there took taxi to my hotel Holiday Inn Moskovsky Vorota. It is a big hotel and girl friendly sometime you have take girls from outside the hotel to your room. I reached hotel and than started calling number from rusdosug website, I called a number which later I found of Eros club, the woman speak good English, and I asked her to send any good girl, so she send masha, an OK girl reached my room in 3 o minutes, it was 6000 for 2 hrs. Had 2 session but the girl was heavy smoker could not tolerate the smell.
After some hour and called the same number but this time asked about the girl from their page on rusdosug which I found from previous girl. She was 19 year old. She arrived after 1. 5 hrs as she was busy, she was indeed slim girl but had pimples on face which blurred on web page, had nice 2 sessions and let her go. Late in the night I went to the club XXX which was part of hotel but it was dead, than saw two OK looking girls in lobby tried to talk but they refused to talk..[/QUOTE]What agency or website did you use to book the "expensive" girl? I'm having a hard time finding a reliable agency? Can anyone recommend Missbliss? The pics look great but I figure they're fakes.
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Want your advice please?
Planning on a trip to SPG. Just wondering what hotels are recommended for taking girls (Girl friendly)? Also seeking advice on which clubs to hit for semi pro girls?
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Alert to all fellow mongers visiting St. Peter:
Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
[URL]https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo[/URL]
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.
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Thanks for the warning, WF
So this Red Tarzan wasn't a copper, he's a vigilante.
Yes you're right, this sickens me as well. I feel sorry for the Finn. Don't suppose he can sue the city government?
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2 photos
[QUOTE=WingForwing;1881513]Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
[URL]https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo[/URL]
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.[/QUOTE]Now that was a crazy video! That guy "red tarzan" is apparently a guy named Vyacheslav Datsika.
Let the girls work! What a fucking bunch of lunatics. Here are some flattering pictures of Vyacheslav below.
I don't know how it is to monger in Russia or Eastern Europe as a minority (black, asian, middle eastern, etc), but with these guys running around I sure as hell wouldn't want to go there.
Apparently they went to another brothel after this and did the same thing.
Tip your devushka a little something extra tonight mongers!
Oh, and if you ever have the option to fight or run.. run. You don't know who you're fucking with, this guy could kill most people with his bare hands. He's an ex kickboxing and MMA pro. Scary shit!
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[QUOTE=Jon32;1881540]I don't know how it is to monger in Russia or Eastern Europe as a minority (black, asian, middle eastern, etc), but with these guys running around I sure as hell wouldn't want to go there.Scary shit![/QUOTE]I don't go to Europe period, unless I'm paid to-much less Eastern Europe. The climate the refugees are creating is sheer racist pandemonium. My company sent me to a school in Germany and the police came rushing to the only Black guy on the plane to see where I came from. Of course I said "Libya. Where the fuck else would a (n*a) on a plane come from!" I read between the lines on the FKK forums that YOU GUYS don't want us fucking your women, so I didn't go-besides, it was to cold. I don't need to be disrespected, much less KILLED for a piece of azz anywhere in this world.
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Vyacheslav
Vyacheslav is considered a big loon, even in Russia. He isn't representative of any kind of movement or threat to anyone, including mongers. He spent over six years in a Russian jail for burglary and then escaping from a psych hospital and had a colorful stay in Norway (where he met some kindred looney spirits) after he escaped from a Russian mental hospital. He was released from prison a few years ago. BTW the Norwegian doctors determined him to be "sane. ".
The same kind of loon exists in every country and the chance of meeting his kind hasn't gotten bigger in the last few years.
There definitely ARE more visible nationalists and xenophobes in Russia these days, but a big dose of "common sense" still works in avoiding them. Now if the economy continues its downward spiral and more and more Russians start suffering and Moscow ramps up the 'it's THEIR fault' (immigrants, Americans, etc) then watch out.
Your still more likely to have trouble with drunk football or hockey fans. And if you wander around off the beaten path in any Russian city (or any city for that matter) at night, well, stupid is as stupid does. Regardless of color or national origin.
The biggest red flag to mongering in any city is when the brothels or girls start asking what color someone is are or where they are from, and then rejecting them. When the people in the trade start refusing business because of a guy's color or national origin, then it's time to get the hell out or cancel your visit. So before pushing the panic button on Russia, wait to see such reports appearing.
I'd even go so far as to say being a person of "color" still works in your favor in a big city like Petersburg, especially if your going after the amateur/student girls and your American. Young Russian girls still have big fantasies in this regard (they listen obsessively to hip hop), and I'll leave it to the active imaginations here to fill in the big fantasy details.
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Nope
[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1881518] Don't suppose he can sue the city government?[/QUOTE]Not really, because he was doing something illegal: to pay to have sex, theoretically a crime.
On the other hand this crime doesn't justify to walk down the Nievsky Prospekt totally naked, no way these bullies would force me to do it, they could beat the shit out of me, but no way.
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[QUOTE=WingForwing;1881677]Not really, because he was doing something illegal: to pay to have sex, theoretically a crime.
On the other hand this crime doesn't justify to walk down the Nievsky Prospekt totally naked, no way these bullies would force me to do it, they could beat the shit out of me, but no way.[/QUOTE]There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.
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I completely agree
[QUOTE=Jake993;1881787]There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.[/QUOTE]Yes I completely agree with your theory, Jake. It's scary that these players involved coordinated a stunt like this.
Yes, who the hell do we think that owns the brother or pays protection money to?
I fear that as economy continues to spiral downward in Russia, there will be more "officially tolerated" stunt or shit like this against migrants or Westerners or whoever the enemy of the day might be.
Be careful out there boys. Getting pussies sure is getting tougher these days in the motherland.
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Yeah, I also ask myself where are the bodyguards of the ladies? But I don't think the owners are involved in such stunt, simply because they are now losing money and will possibly face questions by the cops.
2 months ago Red Tarzan tried to do the same raid in a salon at Ul. Kranaya Presnaya, Moscow, but there the wgs "fought back" against the vigilanti and even managed to turn the table keeping him and his buddies on the passive role.
Yep, the Muscovite police had to intervene in order to "save the Tarzan from the wild jungle animals")).
And I wouldn't be impressed if, as we speak, the salon at Ul. Kranaya Presnaya is still up and running the business as usual, commemorating their own "den pobedy" against the fascists, lol.
But I must confess, it would be kind of weird to see naked people running down the Tverskaya, oh boje.
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About security
Having been to St. Pete several times I have never seen any real security in brothels. The door is always locked and that's what Red Tarzan had to break. Local SPB mongers could possibly confirm, but afaik there are no human guards in SPB brothels like in the wild 90's.
Why this raid was real? Well I think this guy is exactly as stable as wikipedia describes: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viacheslav_Datsik[/URL].
[QUOTE=Jake993;1881787]There's something not quite right about this.
In any brothel I have ever been to, there is ample security. How this "gopnik" ever got past the front door is a "red flag". This video is either a publicity stunt, or the brothel security was in on the deal. By the way, who do you think owns the brothels?
If this were a REAL raid on a REAL SPB brothel, Red Tarzan would be floating in Fontanka canal right now with his throat slit.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WingForwing;1881513]Make sure to watch this video and read the article very carefully before you plan your trip to St. Peter because this is -unfortunately- what can happen to you:
[URL]https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/410170/izdievatielstva_nad_inostrantsiem_v_pietierburghskom_bordielie_popali_na_vidieo[/URL]
"Red Tarzan" and his team "raided" a brothel in Peter. There he found a Finn tourist, who was then humiliated by Tarzan and his raiders.
Also with the WGs inside the establishment there was not pardon, they even had to walk naked on streets of Peter as a sign of public shame.
I don't want to play a Captain SaveaHo here, but IMO this is pretty disgusting and for sure they don't deserve it, even despite the fact that prostitution is officially illegal in this country, nobody deserves this humiliation.[/QUOTE]The client in the video is Finnish. He's saying something like "this is a fucking bad thing", but I don't hear any panic in his voice. It's more like he's upset for his session being interrupted or being filmed and robbed.
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[QUOTE=Nordico;1881889]The client in the video is Finnish. He's saying something like "this is a fucking bad thing", but I don't hear any panic in his voice.
It's more like he's upset for his session being interrupted or being filmed and robbed.[/QUOTE]The Norwegians didn't want him, maybe after the next escape he will try his luck in Suomi, now that he for sure has found a, lets say, nodding acquaintance, there LOL.
It would be funny and ironic if this Finnish customer would be the guy who decides about asylum for Russians.
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Make salon appointment by SMS?
Does anyone know of a salon in SPB that makes appointments by text message?
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Spb visit
Hello everyone,
Planning a visit to SPB next month.
Please help me where to look for mongering.
I am kind into beauty.
No prob of budget.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=GreekFan;1871024]Maybe you can help me out I am debating a trip to either Saint Petersburg -Budapest. Bulgaria Sofia[/QUOTE]Between all of those cities, I think you'll get the best "bang for the buck" (pardon my pun, pa DUM pum tsssss) in Saint Petersburg.
The quality in Peter is certainly going to at least match the other two places you ask about, if not exceed.
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[QUOTE=Monger652;1882094]Does anyone know of a salon in SPB that makes appointments by text message?[/QUOTE]I found Markiza willing to SMS with me after I had initially set an appointment time by voice, primarily to overcome the language barrier.
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Hey guys,
I just moved to SPB, I have read not to trust a few sites because of bait and switch. There's lots of stuff in this thread but some of it dates a while back. Any PMs on some updates sites would be greatly appreciated!
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Visiting SPB
Hi guys,
Visiting SPB IN Jun-Jul for 30 days.
And want to make it big productive visit. I hope I am clear in conveying the point. Any seniors or locals, kindly give tips or contacts of independents in SPB. I have myself done some homework.
A site called vipsoski. Me, [URL]rusprostitue.com[/URL]. Are they genuine and current. Kindly assist.
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Dull place
I didn't know that forum for worlds most beautiful place with most beautiful gals is so boring, dull and inactive. Someone wake up and help. Lanfing thete on 13th. Any pointers for independents, authentic WGs, salons, websites?
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Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.
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Thanks a ton
Thanks bro. Downloaded mamba, rusdosug and vipsoski. Can see that mamba is social chat site. But query is what about authenticity of other two. Vipsoski seems too good for the price.
[QUOTE=CumerBareback;1892965]Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CumerBareback;1892965]Rusdosug is always a good starting point, especially if you are in a hurry. There are several great girl also in Piter. If you have some more time, try to find on Mamba a semi pro.[/QUOTE]I have talked to a few on mamba and try seem like regular non-pro women. How did you find semi-pro"s.
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Magic Belye Nochi with Maya in St. Petersburg
During my last visit of St. Petersburg I rented my own apartment instead of booking a hotel, so I would feel more free to invite guests for the night. When checking some international directories I stumbled upon the profile of a gorgeous escort companion called Maya. I remember I found her profile when surfing the internet during my previous business trip in St. Petersburg at the beginning of the year. At that time I could not make it to a meeting, Actually, the blessing cold prevented me from doing much more that work, eat and sleep. And the only pleasure were some massage salons on Nevsky Prospect. Now summer and the famous White Nights; Belye Nochi had arrived, everything was different, the nice weather and the flirtatious setting and the sun kissed my hormones back to life. I definitely had to meet Maya and it turned out to be a great adventure. We agreed on a dinner date in a Georgian restaurant with many locals and the delicious Caucasus dishes served were really amazing The meeting with Maya went even beyond my highest expectations. What a magic Belye Nochi night it turned out to be. She a wonderful lady: gracious and well-groomed, witty sense of humor. And on top of it all: very beautiful and sexy with delicate Asian features and a body to die for. Check her pics on [URL]http://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/st-petersburg-escorts-call-girls/maya[/URL] and I rest my case. Despite her still young age she is very experienced, but in a nice way without the blase or cynical attitude that often comes along. And she knows what the world has to offer, thanks to her travel experiences. She just returned from a long trip to Asia and we found common ground in many topics for conversation. I will not write into detail what happened afterwards back in my apartment. But it was one of the best deserts I ever had. Pure passion, and all you may expect from a genuine GFE companion. I heard she is also sometimes in Amsterdam. I cannot wait to meet her again since this is another city I need to be for business so now and then. I start to love my job more and more.
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[QUOTE=Partizanski;1895336]During my last visit of St. Petersburg I rented my own apartment instead of booking a hotel, so I would feel more free to invite guests for the night. When checking some international directories I stumbled upon the profile of a gorgeous escort companion called Maya. I remember I found her profile when surfing the internet during my previous business trip in St. Petersburg at the beginning of the year. At that time I could not make it to a meeting, Actually, the blessing cold prevented me from doing much more that work, eat and sleep. And the only pleasure were some massage salons on Nevsky Prospect. Now summer and the famous White Nights; Belye Nochi had arrived, everything was different, the nice weather and the flirtatious setting and the sun kissed my hormones back to life. I definitely had to meet Maya and it turned out to be a great adventure. We agreed on a dinner date in a Georgian restaurant with many locals and the delicious Caucasus dishes served were really amazing The meeting with Maya went even beyond my highest expectations. What a magic Belye Nochi night it turned out to be. She a wonderful lady: gracious and well-groomed, witty sense of humor...[/QUOTE]Thanks for this informative write up man, this is definitely more of the classy wine and dine experience I'm more interested in the. Lets have fun and be done with it! I know, I know, not as high brow but we do what we can. I've been researching since I got into town and I've discovered quite a few websites. Its sad because I just moved here to Russia and back home in Denver I was reviewing providers and going through the list like crazy. But because of the language barrier here and the potential for scams / crazy mother fuckers waiting to jack you (I'm a big intimidating guy too! I've been reluctant to dive in. The thought of ever going near a Russian jail terrifies the shit out of me. But we do what we do! I've discovered this site (added extra spaces in website links for safety): HTTP: spb. Telki. Club / googlemap. Look at this location map. Seriously. There are sister sites like this here. And all you really need to do to find these kinds of sites is look for the hot girl that you know is fake, look up her # and you'll find all of these kinds of local websites. But I've never seen anything like this. I mean, damn. Nothing I've *ever* seen in the past 8 months investigating st Petersburg turned up these kinds of results. I would really love the mongering community here to chime in and let us know your thoughts. I've mostly been a lurker on these forums but I think this is something of interest for anyone who might be visiting. Probably a lot of flakes but if you look at the other sites. Here's the addresses for the bookmarks I have. If they have an interactive map (even the sister sites) they're no where near populated. (http: spb. Otsos1. Com <- a sister site of the one linked, http: yavamdam. Ru / new / <-- seems pretty legit but always questionable, http: spb. Rus-redclub. Com / en, another sister site for sure, HTTP: putana78. Com / - anyways I've found these just by doing the normal security checks I'd do back home in Denver on women and I didn't even do that much, there's a lot of questionable stuff and most of these have been able to safeguard themselves from google's image search quite well. Always search by the phone number provided and you'll find a lot of conflicting information on what you want to know but sometimes you'll find something. I've yet to dive in here because I'm usually out drunk as hell enjoying my new experience in a different culture but hey. I'll be jumping in soon!
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Well now
If it looks too good to be true it is.
That's all you need to know about websites.
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Searching for driver / translator
Arriving SPB next week. Anyone know where I can find one that will be of help or how I could find one that won't balk at helping me find entertainment?
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St Petersburg
Visited SPB last month. Although great city to visit but in turns of mongering it may be very tiresome if you don't know Russian.
So my one day was lost without any action.
So contacted a guy where I took my Indian dinner.
He provided me a guy with car who knew Russian very well.
He took me to hotel where he paraded few girls who were little higher side of age as well weight so it was not type.
He than took me too some of saloons. Entry in to salon it self is like some thriller movie.
Each gate is password protected. When you call salon owner they will provide password.
In one such place chose a girl on younger side.
She asked me to take bath first so may be hygiene part was better.
Act was bit mechanical.
Didn't allow lip kiss.
Blow job was covered.
Took her in doggy.
Over all average experience.
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[QUOTE=Monocef;1910577]
He than took me too some of saloons. Entry in to salon it self is like some thriller movie.
Each gate is password protected. When you call salon owner they will provide password.
[/QUOTE]I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here [URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU[/URL] and here ([URL]http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/[/URL]); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.
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Why cracking down on sex trade?
[QUOTE=WingForwing;1911005]I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here [URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU[/URL] and here ([URL]http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/[/URL]); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.[/QUOTE]Several years ago prostitution was so out in the open. Even on the streets. The famous tochka, etc. So why are they cracking down on prostitution now? I doubt it's because they've suddenly become superior moral beings. This is fucking Russia for crying out loud!
So how does cracking down on sex trade benefit their current political agenda or local elites? I can't see how. Anybody knows?
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Saon
[QUOTE=WingForwing;1911005]I see what you mean. But this is just to protect their establishments against the increased police raids from the last months like you can see here [URL]www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiIUXTNErBU[/URL] and here ([URL]http://www.ntv.ru/video/1294347/[/URL]); so this is in no way to make our mongers life difficult. And they also don't want to expose themselves too much to wanabee vigilantis or angry neighbors. Tough Life.[/QUOTE]Yes bro I can understand. They were extra careful all the time.
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[QUOTE=Monocef;1910577]Blow job was covered.
Took her in doggy.
Over all average experience.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately covered blowjobs are the norm in SPB. It is possible to get uncovered in certain salons.
If it's important for you. Ask for 'minet bez preservatif' but you could go to quite a few before you find a girl who will say yes.
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Alina 21
Here's a girl I was curious to meet (photos look too good.), but, unfortunately, she wrote she wouldn't be available until after August 5.
She also wrote that she only meets in hotels and prefers meeting Russian men, but I took those as guidelines and not rules.
[URL]http://www.mamba.ru/mb1548895376?hit=3[/URL]
She gave me a phone number.
Again, I didn't meet this girl. Just chatted with her on Mamba, and we didn't have a discussion on the particulars (price, etc.).
She only speaks Russian, but if all you want to do is discuss a meeting a translator might work.
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[QUOTE=JonathanPine;1911063]Several years ago prostitution was so out in the open. Even on the streets. The famous tochka, etc. So why are they cracking down on prostitution now? I doubt it's because they've suddenly become superior moral beings. This is fucking Russia for crying out loud!
So how does cracking down on sex trade benefit their current political agenda or local elites? I can't see how. Anybody knows?[/QUOTE]Honestly JP, I am surprised at you. You KNOW the answer to this. Cracking down on prostitution is about money; nothing else. As we all know, Russia is a petro economy. So when the oil price is down, there is less money sloshing about, budgets get cut and the "skim" gets thinner and thinner. By the time it trickles down to the lowly Millitsia, (sorry, it's now called Policia) there's fuck all left. Raiding known Salons is one of their only source of extra income left. Believe me, they don't like it any more then we do. But hey, what's a poor working stiff to do? Shaking down the proprietor of the salon and "threatening" a raid only goes so far. Sometimes, you need to perform a little demonstration to let them know you are serious. It's just unfortunate that the poor sex tourists get involved and humiliated. Let me assure you, these raid have nothing to do with morals or politics.
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[QUOTE=Apple5544;1893085]I have talked to a few on mamba and try seem like regular non-pro women. How did you find semi-pro"s.[/QUOTE]I have the same confusion actually, chatted with some gals, seems no pros.
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Just returned from SPB
Hi fellow mongers,
Just returned from heaven. What a satisfying trip. Some tips and guidelines.
Download google translator. Two pronged help. One can translate English to russian and same can be used for chatting. Also has picture translator and audio translator. Which will help you on streets.
Download Mamba and badoo. Good social chat sites and keep on liking the gals. Probably some additional money required to charge or buy some special packages of respective sites like coins etc.
I could manage gals on both who were ready to come to hotel. And economical rates. Going rate is 5 K-7 k in hotel for couple of hrs and 3 k in their apartment for an hour.
Found one or two sites also where in in call is available. MARKAZA and Carmel. Above that befriend a taxi driver and he would do the needful. Could manage in 2 K for an hour too.
What else. Try FIDEL and other joints in Dumskaya street. If you are lucky, you can find pick up, nice English speaking gals available there. However, its a disc and karaoke street.
Orchad spa is another classy place for good relaxing and happy ending massages. Others, on nevsky prospekt, I found to be below average.
Happy mongering guys.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;1911328]Unfortunately covered blowjobs are the norm in SPB. It is possible to get uncovered in certain salons.[/QUOTE]I found the same. No problems getting one at markiza or carmel. Just request at the beginning and pay an extra 1000. Worth it.
It is an all-she-can-eat for that price.
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[QUOTE=Tia912;1917533]Hi fellow mongers,
Just returned from heaven. What a satisfying trip. Some tips and guidelines.
Download google translator. Two pronged help. One can translate English to russian and same can be used for chatting. Also has picture translator and audio translator. Which will help you on streets.
Download Mamba and badoo. Good social chat sites and keep on liking the gals. Probably some additional money required to charge or buy some special packages of respective sites like coins etc.
I could manage gals on both who were ready to come to hotel. And economical rates. Going rate is 5 K-7 k in hotel for couple of hrs and 3 k in their apartment for an hour..[/QUOTE]Hey Tia,
Thanks for the good report.
I'm heading to Peter tomorrow for 3 weeks, I have just realized that I'm staying almost in the same building as Orchad spa (14 A vs 14 B on Kuznechyy per). Small world, uh?
No need to mention that I will certainly drop by.
Do you have any particularly good masseuse to recommend?
Thanks
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Any experience with XM Spa?
Dear forum members.
I will be in SPB the second week of September and was interested in any member's experiences with XM Spa. The website is [URL]een.xxx[/URL]massage. Ru I have read others write about Orchid and I will check that out but any input on XM Spa would be great. It looks like they might offer more than just massage.
Also, does anyone have an experiences with the Angelterre Hotel on Malaya Morskaya for working girls or is it working girl friendly?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=FredZee;1925523]Dear forum members.
I will be in SPB the second week of September and was interested in any member's experiences with XM Spa. The website is [URL]een.xxx[/URL]massage. Ru I have read others write about Orchid and I will check that out but any input on XM Spa would be great. It looks like they might offer more than just massage.
[/QUOTE]I have written about them previously.
My first visit two years ago was with a reall stunner who offered to go full service near the end of my 90 minutes.
5 visits since have not been so successful, so you can't expect more than the basic tantra.
I requested 90 minutes 4 hands about a year ago. It was very mechanical while the 2 girls focused on personal chit chat in Russian about their personal lives. Most disappointing.
I can't think of a better place if all you want is a basic massage.
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[QUOTE=Meesee;1926247]I have written about them previously.
My first visit two years ago was with a reall stunner who offered to go full service near the end of my 90 minutes.
5 visits since have not been so successful, so you can't expect more than the basic tantra.
I requested 90 minutes 4 hands about a year ago. It was very mechanical while the 2 girls focused on personal chit chat in Russian about their personal lives. Most disappointing.
I can't think of a better place if all you want is a basic massage.[/QUOTE]Meesee,
Thanks for the info I didn't search but I should have. Rub and tug is good for me if the girl is hot enough. Had a great time at Vanilia in Moscow. If this is similar then I would be good.
Thanks, Fred.
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Orchid Massage - 9/13/16
Made my way to Orchid Massage around 5 pm and they had 5 girls to choose from. None of the girls on their website were available but I did choose a red head named Julia. I was given the choice of a regular oil massage for 4200 rub or a soap massage for 4900 rub and both were for 60 minutes. Julia was your girl next door type, cute and in decent shape. The soap massage is a new experience for me and they use what looks to be a pillow case and a bucket of warm / hot water to suds up and make it a big amount of suds / bubbles. Julia had me lie on a cotton sheet that was on top of a thin foam sheet that rested on a nice heated tile platform. She poured the soap on me and started the full body massage. It was about 20 minutes of back massage and then 20 minutes of frontal where she rubbed her self all over me. It was nice and she was in the reverse cow girl position as she was stroking me and I could see her pussy full on. It was quite nice and once I came she continued to massage my cock and it was really quite intense and nice. So, all in all, a nice and relaxing 60 minutes for 4900 rubs. I would do this again for sure.
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Rusdosug
This is my first time to St Petersburg. From other posts suggested the site karamelki shows real pic. So I tried it which Google to [URL]http://karamelki-spb.org/[/URL] . I made many calls to the numbers which water marked on the gals picture but most of them cannot be connected. Then, turned to Rusdosug, some gals do not speak English, until there is one who answered my call speaking a bit English and I requested the address by SMS. Arrived there in 30 minutes, the pic is fake and there were four gals to pick. All of them are just so-so, just pick one looks young, a bit fat and not pretty. Not very satisfactory, how can I get a higher quality gal?
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It's over
I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying.
The next time I go to these places I swear to god I am going to either wear a fucking sign around my neck with the top 10 questions pre-answered or I am going to bring a stack of printouts to hand out to them when they start asking. It is not so bad if you get one girl approaching you over 30 minutes, but in a place like this the effect is one of throwing a cup of bloody flesh into a tank of starving piranhas.
The local girls are, if you're lucky, slightly below the girl next door to a bit above the girl next door. Russian girls are getting fatter now with their McDonald's and Starbucks and quadruple sugar creme coffees or whatever the hell they drink. Juice juice juice, someone needs to tell them that Juice is just sugar water. Better off drinking vodka.
Anyway when you're lucky you will get some girl from Belarus who is trying to swim upstream and she will stand out from the crowd in a joint like this in SPB. She hasn't made it yet to Moscow and she won't be as pushy or annoying as the local girls. 6 years ago the best of this crowd would be the ugliest girl in the bar. 6 years ago in Kiev none of them could get a job in a club like this.
I will hold out some hope for Moscow, the world is painting me into a corner, everywhere I turn there are dancing hippos on tables asking me for money. I can tell you this though, I point the finger straight at Instagram, where any half pretty girl can post some selfies and our friends living close to the equator with too much money, too much sand, and not enough of anything else will throw tens of thousands of dollars at them. I fired off a message almost at random to some girl on instagram suggesting some money and she said she doesn't lift a finger for $1500 and if you wanted to spend 12 hours with her then you should come up with $3000. This for her is regular and normal and she was barely cracking 8.
Any half pretty girl can pick up a phone and make some selfies and with filters and photoshop and the right pose look about twice as good as she does in the real world and these jerkasses start throwing around money that can feed a small village at these girls in order to get a few hours of their time. Or at least they will claim to and set expectations in these girls heads.
Don't even think in this world about normal dating. They will check your watch, check your shoes, check your car, find out what you want to spend on them and that will cost you far more than buying them for the night. On a website that will not be named a girl who was a bit better than average suggested she wanted $25,000 per month to be a girlfriend. That my friends equates to $300 k of after-tax income.
Do you have $500 k of pre-tax income to devote to a nice looking girl to hang around, be upset, yell at you, be forever in need of some extra crap over and above her salary? While she drops phones, smashes cars, knocks glasses of water over your laptop and accidentally sets your backup disk on fire? Bringing these girls into your life is like opening the door and asking a category 5 hurricane to please come in and make itself at home. And they want to be PAID for it.
Thank you Instagram where any reasonable girl can have 100,000 men panting over the prospect of maybe being blessed with the opportunity to lick the soles of her shoes.
The only justice is that for them it lasts such a short time and there is another crop just around the corner that will be even more media savvy then them. Who is going to give a flying fuck about your selfie or that picture of your lunch when you're 34?
Maybe in the end the world will balance out but for now it sure feels like there is more money than there are beautiful girls, and those beautiful girls are sure as hell no dummies. They have followed the cash, and that cash is not in a strip club. Nope, now everyone is a thousand dollar an hour hooker and Instagram brings them a thousand customers a day, offering private jets and trips to the Seychelles and a credit card to fill all those Dior and Chanel bags with crap to post right back on Instagram again. Why their parents never clue in is beyond me.
I weep.
Another city off my list. Once you've seen the buildings, there really is not any reason to return. Plus, there are pictures of this place on Instagram.
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[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now..[/QUOTE]OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.
I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.
Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.
Cheers.
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True
[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years... [/QUOTE]Unfortunately I have to agree with you.
The level of prettiness among the WGs has been falling in the last few years, plus the level of Gold-digging among "non WGs" is rapidly growing.
But don't make too many hopes about Moscow being better then SPB man, I live here and I've seen the development myself.
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[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.
What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.
I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.
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[QUOTE=Meesee;1945125]I couldn't agree more. I have only been going to SPB for about three years and have seen the change just in that time. My last trip to Maximus was a real dogfest of girls pleading for the $500 "all night" back at my hotel (=quickie). And the one and only stunner I met that whole night was from, yes, Belarus.
What little time spent in Moscow, they are more expensive and nowhere near the quality as SPB.
I am still finding some success at the salons for now but when that dries up, and it will, then will probably pack this endeavour in that city as well.[/QUOTE]Ahhhhh yeah these girls. The all night promise. Love that line.
In Moscow now, I may pass by night flight just to say no to all the robots in there. There is some pleasure in that. If you go with one of those girls you are in for one of the most mechanical fake experiences of your life. It's like punching yourself in the face for $500.
I don't know what is setting the low bar entirely other than Instagram. I have checked with high level agencies that are a major pain in the ass to just begin to talk to. But you see legit photos and real girls. The thing is, they are pretty much real girls. Some of them are model quality but. 3,500 euro for a couple of hours? If they are asking it, someone is paying it. But for the most part it is your fairly average kind of girl, not bad looking, someone you'd be pleased to talk to in a club and date but would you fork over $1500 for spending a couple of hours with her? Probably not. Because once all the makeup and clothes are gone, she's just a girl. And nothing special. It's not like these girls are great in bed all the time. So that's the risk you take.
All I can imagine is that our southern neighbors with their fetish for blondes and their need for status symbols blow out this money and they really do not care. What they got is the headgame bonus. *I* am with *this girl* who otherwise would not be giving me the time of day. It's like a watch or a Ferrari or anything else. But it's an empty experience, no fun, no laughs, no nothing. And when you take away the makeup, the hairstyle, the instagram filters and the perfect poses, with sideways hips and standing on the toes, really it's not that beautiful a girl after all.
They are winning this game, the girls that is, not us.
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[QUOTE=Dreams;1943905]OMG, you seem very unhappy these days. Sorry about that, I hope you get back to more optimistic thoughts soon.
I agree that there are many girls in the "sugar Daddy" league that you describe, but, to be fair there are others as well, not necessarily in SPB, for less.
Anyway, you are right, I go to SPB, not only for the buildings, but also the museums, the palaces, the gardens, the opera and ballet at the Mariinski. Not topics for this forum, I presume.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]That indeed is the true reason to visit that city. If you get the girls out of your head it is a great place. Factor in the girls and. You ruined your vacation.
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Just Petersburg?
[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push. But those days are over....[/QUOTE]I think that is a great description of what is going on in Russia, and to some extent around the world. But I am surprised that you write this specifically about Petersburg. I would say Petersburg is way better than Moscow for brothel hopping, lower prices, more attractive girls, and above all friendlier and more sincere girls (relatively speaking).
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Strip bar Zavist
Zavist is a first chain of men bars, with a wide range of entertainment opportunities and pleasures, starting from easy flirting up to erotic show and seductive beauty of a women body. Each place has its own atmosphere and charm, and its own specific entertaining thematic programs:
Show-bar. A night club atmosphere, you can enjoy gorgeous show and party hard.
Strip-bar. A true striptease and a private foam-show in jacuzzi.
Lounge-bar a comfortable lounge rest in the pleasant female company.
Topless-bar. Nearly all staff reveals the beauty of the female body.
Cabaret-bar. A show program and seductive private dances.
Gentleman-bar. A new format of the men's entertainment.
A large choice of drinks, shakes and cocktails is at your service. Not to mention hookah and snacks, private VIP zones, entertaining karaoke, spa rooms and a crazy-menu.
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Zavitbar
Zavistbar? What a surprise I've been in this strip bar recently. My friends wanted me to see more then Hermitage in this city so we spent a night here. Passionate girls haunted my eyes, beckoning with their bodies. I didn't even know Zavistbar is so famous though it was really impressive.
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[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying...[/QUOTE]Your opinion is really true. When I read it I remember all those moments that I experienced. You can buy a girl in this town, but unfortunately, not love. Bitter truth!
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I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.
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[QUOTE=EddyBeg;1988810]I remember I felt myself really young when I visited this Russian strip bar Zavistbar It was Sadovaya street in the very center. Zavist is a Russian word but I understand the meaning of this word cause the beautiful girls and the relax in this bar. Really want to envy. Russian people are very generous. Luxury snacks and caviar and drinks. Amazing! If once I'll get in this city go there again.[/QUOTE]Wow! I'm actually is looking for something like this for good evening after working day. You mean this one [URL]http://zavistbar.com[/URL]? I'm really nearby now.
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Moving to St. Pete
Hi all,
So I'll be moving to St. Pete in 2017 and was wondering if any mongers on the forum are living there? Would love to meet up if there are some. I've been on this website a long time and have lived all over the world. Looking forward to my time in Russia.
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Getting kicked in the ass by mother Russia
So finally got to try out Russia for my first time. And pretty much everything that could go wrong wen't wrong haha! But I loved it.
Arrived at airport and went straight to buy sim card to make everything easy. But it turned out my fecking phone was locked to my operator in Sweden (which was weird because I have been changing operator. Ironically Tele2 is kinda big in Russia and I just changed from that in Sweden. Duh. I immediately thought damn this was really bad because the list of roaming costs I got on SMS from my operator was expensive. But at least I could use roaming whenever I needed, right?
No not in Russia. For some reason it refuse to connect with 3 G /4 G and I can only make SMS and calls.
By now I start realizing this expert level country is going to be bumped up to master level, or more.
My first evening I had a set dinner date and even that turned out to be a hassle because she was ofc very late (even after rescheduling the dinner). And as soon as I left my hotels WiFi I was out in the dark.
Some WiFi in the city did work but some don't. This is because again you need to enter your phone number to get a pin code and unlock the "free WiFi". My operator is obviously garbage. The first thing I will change when coming back (Tele2 here I come again). However being at a high end restaurant really opened my eyes to how many nice looking ladies there are. Even coming from Stockholm it felt like a lot (usually everyone is sub-par to Swedish beauties).
Since my dinner date was a non-pro I won't bring up details from that. But she were 20 years old an tall and slim. Having her own central apartment. Think her parents had deep pockets.
Next day I decided that even though everything got so mixed up in my preparations I just had to try mongering. For some reason I love the challenge and after all the hunt in itself is one of the best parts in my book.
Started googling around (again) like crazy and sites like rusdosug. Ru was OFC blocked on the DNS level. Tried VPN to get around it but no luck. Found these forums that I somehow missed when I read thru ISG before and got very interested in Chika / Cheeky:
[URL]https://forum.amurspb.net/index.php?showtopic=71706&st=2640[/URL]
So prepared my translator app for offline mode and the basic questions I needed. Along with phone numbers (to several places as backup) and their names. When I wanted my hotel to fix a taxi for me they pushed to know where I was going. And I had to argue that I wanted to talk with the taxi driver where to "drive me around". Really weird but after a while they finally ordered a normal taxi. Turned out the taxi driver spoke at least a fair bit of English and he called the Chika / Cheeky places for me to find out the address. And I thought finally my luck is turning, but no.
This weekend was the Soldiers holiday and now the place only took bookings for the next day. So wen't for my last option to let the driver fix a place and he OFC knew where to start calling to meet a girl. He asked me if I wanted "good girls" or "normal girls".
The good places he said cost 5000 RUB / h and that was fine for me. Told him I wanted 2 h with a very good girl.
When we arrived I gave him a tip and he helped me up to the door (just like previous reports). It really is like a thriller movie passing the heavy metal doors like someone mentioned here. My taxi driver told me this building were over 300 years old and one of the first built in SPB. There were only a handful of girls and quality "OK". But very slim ones and two spoke pretty good English. The place was next to a strip club too.
Took 2 h plus some champagne. There were no real extras offered by my chosen girl so I thought this is going to be really mediocre. But at least I'm helping out the local economy a bit.
We agreed to have sex 2 times during this time which was no problem at all. Kinda standard but at the same time she did deep throat and I could pound away in any position I wanted. She really seemed to like it starting to stimulate herself when I went hard in doggy style. Mind you that she probably weighed in on 45 kg and were 168 cm tall. Very nice skin, thick long hair and ye slim by the very meaning. This is my favorite build in ladies.
So overall was a decent pound for sure. The sight from behind with her little pussy looking to get ripped in two was a sight to behold. And it was very wet too! Only sad thing was the no-anal rule she had. After my two times I hooked in to their WiFi and ordered a Uber and headed out in the darkness.
Funny thing was that when I was leaving the owner were watching cameras waiting for a bunch of hooded guys that camped outside the door before letting me out. And she talked about "police" to the girl and they seemed nervous. So it hit my mind that this master level could even go higher to god-level of difficulty for me.
Luckily they left after a while. Master level was after all enough for me to handle.
As people have mentioned before going to SPB plainly for mongering reasons is not recommended unless you have a decent level of Russian.
But the opportunities are very high and I really liked the challenge and risk-reward offered. Not to mention that everything is very very cheap. Probably not true for Moscow. Luckily I will come back in a month from now and I can't wait. Dunno why I loved it so much but I guess rough and hard environment is up my alley.
Been to Ukraine many times and almost every East European country. Except for Prague which is a easy and cheap mongering place SPB is now my absolute favorite. Even though it's by far the hardest place I've been to (especially when you fuck up like I did in my preparations).
On a side note I stayed at Petro Hotel which I can recommend for a cheap 4 star conveniently in the center. Quality was very good and spacious for a deluxe room. Would be perfect for a outcall session. Got 4-5 m in ceiling height and nice architecture.
No card for elevators if you manage to get a outcall.
Restaurants are open late, 01.00 or later in most cases. The expensive one usually state "until the last guest leave". Not on par with Kiev where many have 24/7 with sleeping chefs in the joint. Still better than most of Europe.
There were also some kind of 90 ies-retro-festival going on in Russia that were on all TV channels and people were singing bad Eurovision-90 ies-shit everywhere. Which hurt my fine ears a fair bit.
I texted (in Russian) probably 20+ numbers from my foreign number and not a single one answered. Except 1 of the Whatsapp numbers I texted. But they were closed.
Got some help from a nice fellow punter here on the forum to get in contact with a girl that new pornstars and such. But unluckily she never answered my emails before I got here. So maybe better luck next time I come!.
Felt kinda safe in the evenings / night time. Even when walking around in a expensive cashmere coat and black diamonds. Never even saw anyone I would label a "thug".
Now back to my Russian studies. And I can already see the potential of getting a even hotter girlfriend here than I had in Kiev, Riga and Tallinn before! Next time Mother Russia won't kick me in the ass. At least not this hard; the (But I loved it).
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Stay in St. Petersburg
Hello,
Any recent information about opportunities to meet some working girls in Corinthia Hotel and around?
What is the most recent rate for a lobby girl for hour of room stay in the city?
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I've been on this site for many years, and other sites like this even longer. Every now and then I check out other forum locations to see what's going on in that part of the world. I've checked this forum over the years from time to time as well.
And this post, is by far one of the best posts I've ever read anywhere. Really. Props to Protocol. I don't know if you meant it or not, but your discussion of the ladies and scene in SPB (which I've never been to), touched on so many social / societal / economic ills, and in such a simple manner.
A tip of the cap to you Protocol.
[QUOTE=Protocol;1943745]I've been in and out of SPB for some years. I don't wander too far. Maximus has been the barometer for me. The first time I went maybe six years ago it was packed with gorgeous blond girls and girls with great bodies. If a girl was older she was like a 31 year old super hottie still that didn't lose anything because of her age but had just lost the vapid stupidity and quest for brand names, along with the arrogance and disdain of the younger girls. And had also lost the pushiness because it's got to be tiresome to be so push.
But those days are over.
It's been a slow slide. The prices went up over the years and the quality has been in a death spiral. SPB has always been the ugly sister compared to Moscow and maybe with the harder economic times the better looking girls have migrated down to the city where the traffic never sleeps.
Because they are sure not here now.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a whole level above the BS that you're going to get in almost every other country, but this club is called Maximus because that's the level of pushiness you're going to deal with. By the time you sit down you will have four girls surrounding you interrogating you with the same BS questions you'll always get. Where are you from, have you been here before, where are you staying....[/QUOTE]
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Going to SPb in July
Hello fellow mongers,
I am going to SPB in July / August and any recommendations for private pick ups (& maybe English classifieds) very much welcome.
My Russian is very very basic. But I believe I could express what I want and negotiate.
Cheers and thank you.
S.
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St Petersburg trip
Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.
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[QUOTE=Jonners;2014657]Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.[/QUOTE]Hi Jonners,
Yes indeed it looks like you are up to your old tricks. Sadly I am in Dubai for a while otherwise would be happy to join you for a drink. Have fun!
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Park Inn. What's going on?
Hi guys,
Am currently spending a few days in SPB in Park Inn Pulkowskaya hotel, and the activity at the hotel bar has been leaving me quite confused so far.
On late evenings there are usually 1-3 single ladies in the bar, but they seem completely uninterested in the male patrons. One is usually standing at the bar, chatting with the service staff, another one sitting in a dark corner.
Yesterday I stood at the bar ordering a drink, when a lady just came in and chatted me up, introducing herself as Maria. After 5 min of friendly banter, when I expected a sales proposition she just excused herself, saying she had something to discuss with her friend. Then she joined the girl in the dark corner and didn't come back.
Do they work in a different sector? (Maria claimed to do tours of SPB by night.) Does the hotel have a strict no-approach policy for them? But then: why wouldn't they even give anyone the look?
I'd highly appreciate advice from more experienced SPB visitors!
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RE: St Petersburg trip
[QUOTE=Jonners;2014657]Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your report, Jonners. I'm considering visiting SPB during the White Nights festival in June. What I've read about mongering in SPB here in the forum has me thinking I shouldn't even try to monger while I'm there.
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Park Inn Bar
[QUOTE=Stiff6;2015345]Hi guys,
Do they work in a different sector? (Maria claimed to do tours of SPB by night.) Does the hotel have a strict no-approach policy for them? But then: why wouldn't they even give anyone the look?
I'd highly appreciate advice from more experienced SPB visitors![/QUOTE]I've not been to SPB, but I have been to Moscow and Kiev and met Eastern European ladies elsewhere. They expect men to be forward. Do not be shy about asking them, just don't be crude about it either. Say something like "I was looking for companionship for the evening. " If they are in the game they will let you know. If they are not they will also let you know and if you were polite about it you'll most likely get a "Nyet".
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Why Quagmire?
Hi Quagmire,
What puts you off mongering in spb? It's a long time since I did as I mainly play with my porn girls but I wouldn't say to anyone don't. There are pitfalls but you probably know them all by reading the forum.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2015602]Looking forward to your report, Jonners. I'm considering visiting SPB during the White Nights festival in June. What I've read about mongering in SPB here in the forum has me thinking I shouldn't even try to monger while I'm there.[/QUOTE]
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RE: Why Quagmire?
[QUOTE=Jonners;2016060]Hi Quagmire,
What puts you off mongering in spb? It's a long time since I did as I mainly play with my porn girls but I wouldn't say to anyone don't. There are pitfalls but you probably know them all by reading the forum.[/QUOTE]The recent post from Protocol and the responses from SanGaetano and Meesee are what put me in that mood (no disrespect intended to any of them whatsoever). But I'm open to mongering in SPB. Perhaps I should RTFF a little more closely. Hell, I've only got 2 1/2 months to do so!
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[QUOTE=Jonners;2014657]Am currently in SPB. Will post report more fully later but let's say I'm having fun. Anyone around happy to meet up for a drink.[/QUOTE]Really looking forward to reviews of your playtime. And sadly I'm not there now in SPB, otherwise a drink or two would have been nice Will try getting a porn girl again next time!
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[QUOTE=Buckinup;2015902]I've not been to SPB, but I have been to Moscow and Kiev and met Eastern European ladies elsewhere. They expect men to be forward. Do not be shy about asking them, just don't be crude about it either. Say something like "I was looking for companionship for the evening. " If they are in the game they will let you know. If they are not they will also let you know and if you were polite about it you'll most likely get a "Nyet".[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice! I'll make sure to try your line next time, before a lady gives up on me! .
S.
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The driver did it
Could not PM.
But if I understood correct the driver on taxi was the key to a good place. So little luck in taxi driver and ask for a good place?
CS.
[QUOTE=LesPaul80;2003485]So finally got to try out Russia for my first time. And pretty much everything that could go wrong wen't wrong haha! But I loved it.
Arrived at airport and went straight to buy sim card to make everything easy. But it turned out my fecking phone was locked to my operator in Sweden (which was weird because I have been changing operator. Ironically Tele2 is kinda big in Russia and I just changed from that in Sweden. Duh. I immediately thought damn this was really bad because the list of roaming costs I got on SMS from my operator was expensive. But at least I could use roaming whenever I needed, right?..[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================
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Hotel with girls in the lobby
What hotel in Petersburg has the largest selection of working girls available in the lobby?
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[QUOTE=ChrilleSweden;2018738]Could not PM.
But if I understood correct the driver on taxi was the key to a good place. So little luck in taxi driver and ask for a good place?
CS.[/QUOTE]Yes. However it wasn't the best place I been to in the world, not a by a mile. But it was decent enough. And I reckon that with some local help and not being there during a big holiday will make life much much easier. There are many possibilities there, just hard to unlock.
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Salon chains in Petersburg
The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
The standard rate most places now seems to be RUB 3000, including DATY. If you want BBBJ its RUB 1000 extra.
Girls are next-door types or more attractive. Sometimes a bit older, sometimes young. Service is variable, but often excellent. There is a lot more "soul" than in the Romanian robots that populate German FKKs. Russian language skills is a big advantage. See my previous detailed post on how to go to salons in Petersburg. Many girls appreciate good DATY.
Petersburg high season (for tourists) now seems to be mid-April through October. During this period everything is more expensive and hotels tend to be fully booked. The city is nicer during this period (especially June-Aug.), but for the budget-conscious mongerer the winter months may be better.
У1076;1072;1095;1080;!
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Karamelki na Vasilevskom
I finally made it back. This branch of Karamelki is a three-story house located in a (typical Petersburg) dingy yard on Vasilevskiy Island. The exact address is 15-aya Liniya Dom 62. Walk into the yard and ring the first doorbell inside the year on the left (not in the passage to the yard). You need a prior appointment, call +7 812 943 16 36. Or look up the Karamelki website online where all the numbers are (need to use one of the free online proxy servers). It takes 20-40 min by taxi from Nevskiy Prospekt, depending on traffic.
There were four girls there when I visited today. Two of them were not particularly attractive, the other two were extremely attractive, IMHO. At least 9's, in my book 10's. Short, beautiful faces, very skinny (serious thigh gaps), (very) firm natural breasts, hard flat stomachs, shapely behinds, petite waistlines, creamy white skin, dark soft straight hair, no tatoos and one of them with very large labia ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] has the labia and beautiful eyes and is 151 cm, Ira is 163 cm). 24 and 25 years old, but if they said 20 you would never know they were lying, except perhaps for the quality of the sex. They don't do BBBJ, but rimming is fine, and one of them kissed beautifully. The one who doesn't kiss does other interesting things, like genuine masturbation until she comes, fingering her own anus etc. All seemingly for her own pleasure. Logically it should just be very high-quality acting, but I just couldn't find any indication that it was. That the orgasms are real can be judged by their sounds and behavior (not exaggerated like German porn), the contractions in their vaginal and anal muscles, the secretion from their pussies (lovely egg-white texture), irritation when I stopped too early, and above all their behavior afterwards (one of them needed a break, the other was at first very horny, then almost fell asleep once I had fucker her thoroughly).
Damage: 5000 roubles per hour, more expensive than the other places.
I think they must have a lot less customers than the other places, because they are a bit further away and because the price is higher. It seemed very quiet while I was there. That may also help explain the quality of the sex.
As I have explained before, in Petersburg you have to have a Russian SIM card and use Yandex or Gett taxi app. Without these there is no point in being there. It is also really helpful to speak Russian well. If you don't it would be worth paying someone to come along with you and help you with the phone calls.
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Ukraine vs Russia?
I visited Kiev 4, 5 times and met a few young girls as well as many old ex-girls.
I wonder whether Russia (for example, St Petersburg or Moscow) may offer better girls or more reliable escort agencies.
What is your private preference if you compare these two countries?
Please also let me know how you meet girls in Russia. I do not like incall: I use only outcall. I am tired of being deceived by mamba. I would rather see a girl by my naked eyes before I take her to my apartment.
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[QUOTE=Cucumber;2021191]The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
[/QUOTE]Thanks, this is good info. What's the website for Nezabudki and Markiza please? Google didn't return anything relevant.
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[QUOTE=OldMcDonald;2026564]Thanks, this is good info. What's the website for Nezabudki and Markiza please? Google didn't return anything relevant.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/[/URL] and [URL]http://markizaspb.info[/URL] (site is down at the moment).
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English on the Phone with Karamelik or Markiza?
Going to call Karamelki for a booking but anyone know if they talk English on the phone? Seen a real good looking blond stunner there Nepa or Lepa. That is on the to do list.
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Heading to SPB in June
Hey fellas,
First, I want to thank everyone who took the time to contribute reports here in the SPB forum. A special thanks goes out to you, Cucumber, for your very-detailed reports.
The airline and hotel reservations are made and I have a Russia visa stuck in my passport, so I can now confidently say that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, I will be in SPB for one week in mid-June during the White Nights Festival. The plan is to do the tourist thing during the day and monger in the evening a few times. Without going into specifics right now, my hotel is located in the near-immediate vicinity of Corinthia Hotel on Nevsky.
I've RTFF but unfortunately, if you go back only ten pages you're reading information from 2015. However, I read enough to know that visiting salons is what I want to do while in SPB since I usually like to inspect the merchandise before making a purchase. So, about the salons, here are my questions:
1) If I hire an english-speaking taxi driver to call the salon and then get me to and in the location of the salon, what would be a fair fee to pay him?
2) I noticed on the Nezabudki website that some girls have a price and then another, lower price next to it with "VIP" in capital letters. What is "VIP," a "Frequent Fucker Discount?
3) At the salons, is it unlimited service with MSOG?
4) Are there any other hotels (besides Corinthia) where working girls hang out in the lounge or bar area?
5) I've already discovered (through e-mail exchanges and reviews on TripAdvisor) that several employees at my hotel speak english. If I ask any of those employees to help arrange a salon visit, am I going to cause anyone any embarrassment, or is the salon culture pretty well established and well-known in SPB?
Thanks in advance to anyone and everyone who replies. I'd like to bring back fresh information from SPB. If anyone has any doubt about whether I give back when I get back, just take a look at my trip reports.
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Karamelki
Yes. You can communicate in English with some of the offices. Not to thoroughly though. But enough to book a girl you've seen on the net.
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StP done.
So. Went to Stp yesterday. Had an appointment at Karamelki but when I called they wanted to know where and who and when so so much for that appointment. Instead of getting a taxi and the trying to find the entrance I decided on [URL]http://euroescort.info/[/URL] and Vika. Not really sure it was her that showed up on my doorstep but the girl was good looking for sure. The Pictures are either older or retouched because there where a Little more belly then on the pics. Not bothering though!
And what an hour plus it was. Girl has looks and Brains so she was fun talking to. And boy. The massage she gave me. Started out as a massage and then suddenly she started to suck my balls while I was laying on my belly and the rest is a haze of sucking and fucking.
Afterwards a real decent conversation and she didn't leave until her manager scolded her on the phone for being late. She left in a hurry so I missed a couple of numbers she gave me on her private phone. No bother not coming to STP again for a while anyway and she's withdrawing to go to Austria.
So hurry up. She's a real nice find!
Tonight I'm in Riga. Lets see what that Town has to offer.
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Corinthia Hotel Rates?
Hi,
Does anyone know the current rates of the girls at the Corinthia Hotel bar?
Thanks.
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Nezabudki
[URL]http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/[/URL]
Called the top telephone number, a woman spoke english and told me I could get there and there are girls available. I found a taxi and gave the phone to driver for the woman to tell him the address. It all went well and taxi got me here [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/LQX855XEa5T2[/URL].
Then the woman described me how to go upstairs in a nearby building. When inside they got me into a room, 3 girls came one after the other and introduced themselves and turned around for me to see them. 2 looked averagelike a 7 and the other looked like a 9 to me but she was tall and slender, not really to my liking. I asked the "receptionist" if there are other places I could visit. She told me she is not in contact with them and she doesn't know how they are operating so I settled with the blonde.
My god, she was good, this was my third girl in Russia this visit and she was superb. I offered her several things, meeting the other day, inviting her to Moscow for my stay (with my limited budget) and several other things. Because she had a life there she declined. She was a girl going for her friend's wedding the next day with braces, super cute. That 1 hour only lacked kissing, but that was to be expected. She told me she never met a foreigner working in there, this is a call for you all wanderers, go to this place, you will not be disappointed. It has a good room with jakuzi. So far the best one I have had since I came to Russia, I'll be trying another one today, but I have low expectations.
Good luck to you all.
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St. Petersburg Trip Report: June 2017
Hey fellas,
Well if you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see that on May 16th, I asked several questions about mongering in St. Petersburg (SPB). And despite the fact that I didn't get a single response, I'm writing a trip report to share what mongering tricks and secrets I learned while spending a week in SPB. So here we go:
1) I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel:
[URL]http://www.forumhotel.ru/en/[/URL]
This hotel is right on Nevsky Prospekt. For those of you who commented on this forum that you used bilingual (English and Russian) taxi drivers to monger in SPB, you'll be happy to know that the main taxi driver for Nevsky Forum Hotel, Alexander, is also bilingual. But interestingly, after meeting him at the airport for my airport-to-hotel transfer and thinking that he was going to be crucial to my mongering success in SPB, I never used him once. Keep reading to find out why.
Another nice aspect of Nevsky Forum Hotel is that a majority of their receptionists are beautiful, young women who are also bilingual. One of them (Julia) looks just like actress Shannon Elizabeth, I shit you not. So it was nice to pass by the reception desk of the hotel multiple times each day and have all of these beautiful Russian women smiling at me.
2) For mongering, I visited two websites:
[URL]http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/[/URL]
[URL]http://markizaspb.info/[/URL]
Now when you first visit those websites, they'll pop-up in Russian, but if you use Google Chrome like I do, you'll be able to translate the pages into English, which is a big help. Guys, I spent quite a bit of time on those sites before I left for Russia reviewing everything: locations, phone numbers, girls, schedules of what girls were working when, everything. And while in SPB, I accessed both of those sites almost everyday through a laptop borrowed from Nevsky Forum Hotel to see what, if anything, had changed (yes, I remembered to clear the browsing history each time).
Now Markiza has four locations and Nezabudki has three locations. And I knew from my research that Markiza and Nezabudki both had a location near my hotel, but I didn't know exactly where they were or what were their entry procedures. So what did I do? I gave the phone number of the Markiza and Nezabudki locations near Nevsky Forum Hotel to one of the receptionists at the hotel. I told her that there were a couple of exclusive clubs nearby that I wanted to visit, but I didn't know where they were or how to get in, and if she could call and fill me in with all of that information, I would really appreciate it. When she asked "What are the names of the clubs?" I gently dodged the question and said "They're very exclusive. You've never heard of them and you've never been to them. " Satisfied with my answer, she called Markiza and Nezabudki and after a conversation in Russian with both places that each lasted a few minutes, she had all of the information that I needed.
3) Markiza location near Nevsky Forum Hotel:
The address is 67-69 Naberezhnaya Reki Fontanki, which is a 25 minute walk from the hotel along the canal. As you get close to the location, you will pass a combination women's clothing store / bridal shop on the right, which will have an oval sign with the image of a dress on it hanging high about the front door. About 50 feet past this store / shop on the right will be a square arch protected by a heavy black wrought iron gate. High on the right wall of this arch will be a red and white sign for "Mini Hotel Alrin" (words all in Russian) with a red arrow pointing inside. Below this sign, at about eye level, is a button with the symbol of a bell next to it. Push the button and you will hear a phone ring. When someone answers, simply say "Markiza" (pronounced Mar KEY zuh) and you will be buzzed through the gate. Enter, close the gate behind you, walk into the courtyard, and take a sharp right. I think you will see the words "Mini Hotel Alrin" in English on the side of the building. The madam should open the door for you but if she doesn't, gently knock a couple of times and you will be let in.
The madam (her name is Marianna) will have you sit down on the bench just inside the front door. Take off your shoes (not socks) and put on the slippers offered to you. Follow the madam upstairs, go into the bedroom where she tells you to go, and sit down on the bed. The door will close but will open again as the girls introduce themselves one at a time and tell you their names. The madam will come back in and will ask which girl you prefer. If you don't want any of them, politely say so and then leave. If you do select a a girl, the madam will leave, your girl will return, and you'll pay her. She'll briefly leave to get a towel, will come back, and will then have you get undressed and go take a shower down the hallway. Take a shower, head back to the bedroom, and enjoy your girl. When the session is over, shower again, get dressed, go downstairs, and exit the way you came in. To get through the heavy black wrought iron gate out front, simply push the buzzer on the left wall near the gate, which will pop the gate open. Step through the gate and pull it closed behind you.
4) Nezabudki location near Nevsky Forum Hotel:
The address is 63 Nevsky Prospekt, which is a 30-second walk from the hotel. The square arch of this building (directly across the street from a restaurant called Marketplace) also has a heavy black wrought iron gate at the entrance, but it's always left open, possibly because it's damaged. Pass through the arch and walk straight across the small courtyard towards a solid steel black door with a black and white "Image Salon by Ivonin" sign next to it. Dial 16 on the keypad. The phone will ring, the madam will answer, and just say "Nezabudki" (pronounced neh zeh BOOD key). When the door buzzes open, enter and climb the stairs to the second floor and apartment 16. The madam will either be waiting for you with the door open or you'll have to knock gently a couple of times. The procedure is the same as Markiza: slippers, presentation of girls in a bedroom, shower, session, shower, leave.
5) Sessions:
For my first session on a Friday early in the evening, I chose Vitalina, a girl I targeted before I left for Russia:
[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1473188790[/URL]#!DSC_0152.
She's 19 years old, about 5'9" tall, about 125 pounds, has six tattoos (dragon, Japanese symbols, Spanish phrase, 69 symbol, etc), and is a smoker. She said she was from Bryansk and is working as a pastry chef in SPB. I paid 5500 rubles for a two-hour session of DATY, CBJ, mish, cowgirl, and MSOG. She doesn't have any kids and her body is tight. She's friendly and playful and when we weren't all tangled up with each other in bed, she pulled out her cell phone and we chatted through Google Translate. Would I repeat? Yes.
For my second session on a Sunday in the afternoon, I chose Masha, a girl who caught my eye during the presentation of girls of my first session:
[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1488225213[/URL]#!226615804_214913.
She's 25 years old, about 5'6" tall, about 135 pounds with some abdominal fat and huge double-dee tits, no kids, and is also a smoker. I paid 5500 rubles for a two-hour session of DATY, mish, CBJ, and MSOG, but left after popping twice in one hour because she was very mechanical, a clock watcher, not very friendly, and tried to control the entire session the minute I got back from the shower. When compared to Vitalina's youthful and fun performance, Masha's lackluster performance actually confirmed my belief that working girls in their mid-20's are burned out, bitter, and jaded. Would I repeat? Hell no.
For my third session on a Tuesday late in the evening, I chose Mila, a girl who caught my eye before I left for Russia:
[URL]http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/girls/mila/[/URL]
She's 22 years old, from SPB, about 5'5" tall, about 125 pounds, a smoker, no kids, has a couple of tattoos (feather, butterfly), perky C cup tits, and tight body. With my gun running low on bullets, I paid 3500 rubles for a one hour session of DATY, mish, CBJ, and MSOG. This girl was fantastic and was very responsive to DATY, which she really enjoyed when I slipped a finger inside of her (Vitalina let me finger her during DATY, too, with no problems, but Masha wouldn't allow fingering). Like Vitalina, Mila and I chatted through Google Translate on her phone, and she was friendly and smiling. Would I repeat? Absolutely.
So, guys, that's it. Let me know if any of you have any questions, and if I notice anything in my notes about my week in SPB that I didn't write here, I'll come back to this thread and let everyone know.
One last thing: I saw a lot of tourists in SPB and I know there's much more mongering going on than suggested by this thread. So to all of you "Looky-Loos" reading reports and using the information to monger successfully in SPB, please start contributing trip reports for the benefit of all of us.
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[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2051279]Hey fellas,
One last thing: I saw a lot of tourists in SPB and I know there's much more mongering going on than suggested by this thread. So to all of you "Looky-Loos" reading reports and using the information to monger successfully in SPB, please start contributing trip reports for the benefit of all of us.[/QUOTE]Great report, thanks.
Be aware though that most tourists are with family, wives, kids, friends. I was probably one that you saw, but could not get away. Hence the lack of reports.
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Mamba Girls
I met with Vitaly and the Asian girl in the past couple of months. Both from Mamba. Both have multiple profiles on Mamba. Vitaly's profiles have been around a while and the Asian girls profiles come and go. I also have their phone numbers and they use Whatsapp / Viber, if anyone wants to contact them write me. Vitaly was 6000,2 hours, "all inclusive" as she put it. The Asian girl was 10000,2 hours, classic and oral. Vitaly speaks English; the Asian girl, not. Additional details by request.
Both look better in their photos, big surprise!, but the info in their profiles is accurate.
[URL]https://www.mamba.ru/mb1732707953[/URL]
[URL]https://www.mamba.ru/mb1748487900[/URL]
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Karamelki
Is karamelki still open? All of their web links posted here have all gone kapoot, redirecting to new domain hosts.
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[QUOTE=Meesee;2065909]Is karamelki still open? All of their web links posted here have all gone kapoot, redirecting to new domain hosts.[/QUOTE]Here you go [URL]http://karamelki.net/[/URL].
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Maps of Petersburg salons
Many salons are referred to by the streets they are on. If you don't know the geography of Petersburg, this is not so helpful. However, there are several maps that show graphically where salons are located in Petersburg. Very useful.
[URL]http://piter.devochki247.com/googlemap[/URL]
[URL]http://prostitutka-spb.com/ads/map[/URL]
[URL]http://pitera-prostitutki.com/mapsearch.php[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Cucumber;2067659]Many salons are referred to by the streets they are on. If you don't know the geography of Petersburg, this is not so helpful. However, there are several maps that show graphically where salons are located in Petersburg. Very useful.[/QUOTE]Sorry to disappoint you but these sites look fake. Most of the photos are clearly fake and no major salon network like Karamelki or Nezabudki or Markiza are present there. This map [URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/interactive.php[/URL] is more or less up to date. The only problem. It is in Russian.
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Accommodations in StPb
Spoiler alert! - no sex or info on girls in this report.
Update on a new kind of place to stay in StPb. Buildings with hotel rooms and apartments (apartments are appearing in Airbnb listings). So I asked some Russian friends about this and they told me it is the newest thing in StPb: buildings with both hotel rooms and apartments. I am staying in one right now (studio apartment). I'm actually in a complex with three of these buildings, all part of the same chain. One of the buildings has a bar and restaurant on the ground floor and I highly doubt you will find any working girls in the bar (but I have not been inside). If you come in via the main entrance you will find a reception desk for the hotel guests. If your in one of the apartments, they just ignore you and you can ignore them and go to your apartment. There's also a mini bar in the lobby of the one I'm in.
When you walk down the hallways, the place has the feel of a hotel, and you will see hotel workers during the day with the carts and linen and towels making their way through the hotel rooms. And if your around the lobby, you will see tourists and groups of tourists with their luggage checking in and out. There is a side entrance in the building I'm in which has access to the stairs, so I don't have to walk past the lobby if I don't want to, but I noticed they are still doing work on the side door and I suspect that soon you will need a card or code to enter thru that door.
What's important I suppose is that if you find an apartment online and your expecting to stay in a traditional apartment check the photos carefully or ask the owner about the building (if it's new) or you might be surprised and find yourself in more of a hotel than apartment building.
I've had a few guests visit me during the day and night and come directly to my apartment door, so reception isn't screening people who enter the building. Girl friendly seems to be applicable.
The only advantage I see to this set up for me is: 1. Building and apartment are new, and everything in the studio apartment is new and working, 2. Price ($30/ day during the summer, which is a very good price for a studio apartment in StPb during the summer), 3. The stairs are kept clean (apartment stairways in Russian apartment buildings are usually trash bins).
Also, I don't think reception will do anything for anyone who is not a hotel guest. My apartment didn't have a bottle opener and when I went down to reception and asked if they could loan me one they asked if I was a hotel guest. When I said no they gave me that 'then why are you bothering us with this' look until I went away.
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Websites to find Russian Girl Friend
Hello,
Which websites are best to find long term girl friend? So far, just mamba and [URL]russiancupid.com[/URL] came into my knowledge, can you advise anything else? And according to your experience, with mamba and [URL]russiancupid.com[/URL], can I get good results on average?
Thank you,
Karete.
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Optimal location in Petersburg
For me, the optimal location in Petersburg is Ploshchad Vostaniya / Moskovskiy railway station. This is at the more operational and less touristy end of Nevskiy Prospekt. There are lots of canteen-style stolovayas where you can go and eat ok food cheaply and not have to wait for it to be cooked. Some of them are open 24 hours. There are various hotels in the area, my favourites being Corinthia (if you can spend a bit), Helvetia (small and cosy, great breakfast, perhaps possible to bring in girls discreetly, though I am not sure) and Oktyabrskaya (soviet behemoth, the cheapest of the three, though nothing is cheap here in the summer half of the year). Oktyabrskaya and Corinthia have som ladies hanging out at night. I don't know how much they take in Corinthia, but in Oktyabrskaya they want 7000 roubles, which is way overpriced compared to the salons (and the hotel ladies are also much older). But 37 year old Svetlana from Oktyabrskaya was worth it.
Nearby there are lots of salons. This time I blasted my way through three:
- Nezabudki next to Corinthia on Nevskiy (mostly a daytime place, always something interesting there, though there were not many girls there when I was there).
- Zazerkalnoe on Nevskiy (new place for me, varied and interesting experiences).
- Krasotki (or something like that), near metro Vladimirskaya (a 15-20 minute walk).
When selecting salons there is usually little point at looking at the pics of girls on their websites. Better to see how many rooms they have (6-8 is good), and then to ask them how many girls are available when you call them). The more the merrier, and three should be a minimum.
For Russian speakers I found this site helpful: https://forumamur.com/ . Scroll down to the section "Salony Sankt Peterburga", and you get a list of all the major salons that the Russian mongerers find worth discussing. The discussions themselves are often overly detailed and not very helpful, but it is helpful to see what salons they are discussing.
A new development in Petersburg seems to be crazy upselling related to BBBJ, DATY and kissing. Many girls quoted 5000 extra for BBBJ. It seems to be quite systematic across salons. Perhaps they have become very worried about diseases, and this is a way of basically stopping most BBBJs, reducing the overall risk level in the system.
Petersburg remains a good mongering destination, at least if you speak Russian well. Some girls will play all kinds of games, but if you can handle it you get a lot of personality with your sex. In fact, more than anywhere in the world IMHO. At times it's a bit like being in a Woody Allen film or something like that. If you take it as a kind of participant theatre, it can be fun.
Very many girls are negative towards non-white people and Muslims. So if you are non-white, not rich, don't speak Russian and aren't familiar with the post-Soviet context, I can imagine it might be challenging to operate here.
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RE: Optimal location in Petersburg
Hey Cucumber,
First, many thanks for your excellent report. You are one of the very few contributors to the St. Petersburg forum who can be relied upon for regular reports, and you helped me a great deal when I was planning my trip to SPB earlier this year. You can read my trip report below this post.
I just wanted to comment about a few things you mentioned in your report:
[QUOTE]For me, the optimal location in Petersburg is Ploshchad Vostaniya / Moskovskiy railway station. This is at the more operational and less touristy end of Nevskiy Prospekt. There are lots of canteen-style stolovayas where you can go and eat ok food cheaply and not have to wait for it to be cooked. Some of them are open 24 hours.[/QUOTE]One of these is Marketplace, located in between Corinthia Hotel and Nevsky Forum Hotel on the other side of Nevsky Prospekt. You simply walk in, grab a plastic tray and some silverware, point to what looks tasty, and receive your plate of food from the attendant.
[QUOTE]Nearby there are lots of salons. This time I blasted my way through three:
- Nezabudki next to Corinthia on Nevskiy (mostly a daytime place, always something interesting there, though there were not many girls there when I was there).[/QUOTE]I described this place in my trip report. It struck me as being a hotel in the past before it became a salon. Definitely a little higher class than the Markiza salon I also visited.
[QUOTE]When selecting salons there is usually little point at looking at the pics of girls on their websites.[/QUOTE]I respectfully agree and disagree. Yes, the photos are photoshopped (to hide tattoos, in my experience) but details of the girls (age, height, weight) will be posted with their pictures. Since I target girls aged 18 and 19, I found the websites helpful in making the decision of who with to have a session.
[QUOTE]Petersburg remains a good mongering destination, at least if you speak Russian well.[/QUOTE]I respectfully couldn't disagree more. I didn't speak a word of Russian while in SPB and had three sessions, two which I really enjoyed. Girls have realized that if they have Google Translate on their phone, it can minimize uncomfortable silence and make the transactions easier. And I made sure that when I walked into the salons, I had a smile on my face, was polite and respectful, and went where I was told by the madams. You will go a lot farther anywhere in life with smiles and kindness instead of frowns and an irritated attitude.
[QUOTE]Very many girls are negative towards non-white people and Muslims.[/QUOTE]And that's not because of racism, but rather because of the ugly attitudes shown by some of those people during intimate encounters. I read online that tourism to India sank 40 percent when the raype crisis was occurring several months ago. I had a chica in Guadalajara, Mexico tell me that 60 percent of her sessions with clients were negative experiences, and that these were usually dark-skinned men from India and other counties. Sadly, there are too many countries in the world where women are treated as property and not as equal human beings. So if your attitude about women is that they are property to be used and abused as you see fit, you're q.
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RE: Optimal location in Petersburg
Well, somehow I hit "Upload Report" through my keyboard before I finished writing my response to you, Cucumber. The last sentence should read:
"So if your attitude about women is that they are property to be used and abused as you see fit, you're quickly going to find that you and your brethren are not welcome in any salons or casas around the world."
Thanks again, Cucumber, for your excellent report, and please keep sharing your adventures with us.
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Karamelki
How are the girls at Karamelki? What is the best branch?
I am thinking of visiting the salon, if I could summon up enough courage to go there. Nice girls there?
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RE: Karamelki
[QUOTE=Holden123;2071066]How are the girls at Karamelki? What is the best branch?
I am thinking of visiting the salon, if I could summon up enough courage to go there. Nice girls there?[/QUOTE]If you use the search function of this site, located in the upper right portion of this page, you'll find 40 results when you search for Karamelki. Beyond that, you can also do your own research by visiting Karamelki's website.
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Thank you for the great report.
The price seems to be quite good for Russia.
[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2051279]Hey fellas,
Well if you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see that on May 16th, I asked several questions about mongering in St. Petersburg (SPB). And despite the fact that I didn't get a single response, I'm writing a trip report to share what mongering tricks and secrets I learned while spending a week in SPB. So here we go:
1) I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel:
[URL]http://www.forumhotel.ru/en/[/URL]
This hotel is right on Nevsky Prospekt. For those of you who commented on this forum that you used bilingual (English and Russian) taxi drivers to monger in SPB, you'll be happy to know that the main taxi driver for Nevsky Forum Hotel, Alexander, is also bilingual. But interestingly, after meeting him at the airport for my airport-to-hotel transfer and thinking that he was going to be crucial to my mongering success in SPB, I never used him once. Keep reading to find out why..[/QUOTE]
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Peterhof
Going to Saint Petersburg in few weeks time. My company have been so nice and put me in a hotel in Peterhof! Anyone knows about any action around there, or outcall will be my best option? We are traveling as a group as well so I need to be careful and unfortunately not able to change the hotel.
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[QUOTE=G3100;2072322]Going to Saint Petersburg in few weeks time. My company have been so nice and put me in a hotel in Peterhof! Anyone knows about any action around there, or outcall will be my best option? We are traveling as a group as well so I need to be careful and unfortunately not able to change the hotel.[/QUOTE]AFAIK there is no action there. May be some streetwalkers, but definitely not worthy taking a risk.
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Strip clubs in St. Pete
Hi all,
I'm new here in St. Pete and have noticed several strip clubs near me. I researched on the forum and it seems they are all pretty much rip-off joints. Are there any strip clubs that are decent? Thank in advance. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
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Hi,
I am new to the games in Russia. As for the price and for the quantity / amount of the salons, which is better St P or Moscow?
Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Cucumber;2021191]The best salon chains in Petersburg seem to be:
- Karamelki. The classic. Lots of French kissing and good sex.
- Nezabudki. One branch is on Nevskiy prospekt near Mayakovskaya metro station, 50 meters from Hotel Corinthia. Another branch at each end of Nevskiy. Pretty girls with beautiful bodies, perfect breasts in various sizes, good service. Nice large rooms and beds at Mayakovskaya and many short skinny girls.
- Markiza. Similar to Karamelki. Many girls happily French-kissed me. Girls at Fontanka branch not so attractive, though one was a beauty.
All have websites. Sometimes they are blocked, but then you can access them via free online proxy server.
The standard rate most places now seems to be RUB 3000, including DATY. If you want BBBJ its RUB 1000 extra.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2078003]Hi,
I am new to the games in Russia. As for the price and for the quantity / amount of the salons, which is better St P or Moscow?
[/QUOTE]I prefer SPB. Prices are higher in Moscow but I've hunted there once and not enough experience to know if the higher prices is worth it. Maybe someone else who has spent more time in Moscow can compare.
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Salons Search
Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please.
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Type the word, Salon, in the search thread at the top right corner. You will find good posts.
[QUOTE=JollyRide;2083481]Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=JollyRide;2083481]Hi, This is my first time to SPB. I will be staying at Park Inn Pulkovskaya hotel. Can someone suggest me a good salon nearby and some strip clubs or any mongering specials please.[/QUOTE]Well, the closest salon to your location is Markiza Park Pobedy [URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy[/URL].
It is located near Park Pobedy metro station, 3 kilometers straight towards city center by Moskovsky Prospekt.
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In st Petersburg
I'm in piter for next few days enjoying the city and the girls. Anyone want a drink, info please contact me by DM or replying to this.