Bangkok Reports

[M P Lurker]

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Those catering to Asian clients mostly quoted 1,500 Baht ST or even higher and not budged lower than 1.5k as far as I have tried. It gave me impression that those Japanese guys have spoiled the market, I just hope that this will not spillover to the other group of girls.
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I don't go to Thermae these days as recent visits found not many girls that I liked.
However previously I have found some really hot girls there (years ago).
Some girls will not go with every guy. It sometimes depends on if they really like the guy. Many of these girls are not full time P4P but are strapped for cash from time to time, although they still have standards and self respect. Of course offering huge amounts of money can always be persuasive. I mean I would fuck just about anything for 1 million dollars.

There are girls who are not desperate and will not fuck for less than 1500 Baht. Thats fine. It just supply and demand. The best girls can price themselves higher because they get more customers anyway. Why should they fuck for less than 50 bucks when they don't need to. If they really wanted the guy badly they could go for free.
There will always be guys willing to pay $50 or more for sex with a superior girl. Now there are 'dogs' available for fucking at very low prices but why would I when my GF is georgous (IMO). So a girl needs to be have something special to be worth spending my valuable time on.

[Montecristo]

Its now 1 year since the military junta took power.
What do you think has changed for mongers, throughout this year ?
By reports, prices seem the same, there were some bombings in new year, but safety seems good, is everything the same as ever in your opinion ?

Thanks

Monte Cristo

[Saint Jack]

NicFrenchy

Saint Jack,

It's been a long time since I used BG7 or Thermae, but I used to tell this to the girls:

"1,000ST, if you are really good, you get 1,000Tip, if not, you get nothing" that way, I could always tell they are eager to go the extra mile. Some of them were really aggressive in bed (probably motivated by the extra money).

Also, If the girl did go the extra mile, I always honored my side of the Bargain and tipped her the agreed amount, you have to be fair.

I may do it differently though higher chance of not getting satisfactory service;

I never mention tipping amount and will see to the service quality of the girl to decide how much I would pay.

I try to look for the right chemistry between the two by be nice to them rather than motivating girls to provide service with extra pay; and I hate those girls who try to hint that others are tipping so much so much.

I agree that your way of dealing will probably yield more satisfied service but I just have different philosophy on how to do it.


SJ

[NicFrenchy]

Saint Jack,

It's been a long time since I used BG7 or Thermae, but I used to tell this to the girls:

"1,000ST, if you are really good, you get 1,000Tip, if not, you get nothing" that way, I could always tell they are eager to go the extra mile. Some of them were really aggressive in bed (probably motivated by the extra money).

Also, If the girl did go the extra mile, I always honored my side of the Bargain and tipped her the agreed amount, you have to be fair.

[Saint Jack]

Haven't been to this pick-up joint for half year or so, thus gladly joined when a friend of mine came from abroad for the weekend.

Arriving at the scene just after midnight on Saturday, crowded as usual with chicks and to-be clients.

The seating seemed to be divided into zones with Japanese clients to the right and those farang clients at central bars.

Type of girls here also being divided accordingly to suit different taste of choice. Those darker skin Isan girls favoured by farang at the middle part and those slimmer body fair skin cutir type hang around the right side of the bar.

Doing some market survey walking around, I spoke to several girls and enquired price for ST. Girls are quite confined to their client group and most of the time would not quote if you do not fall into her type of customer. She might smile and walk away or give some excuse to leave.

From the responses I got, it could be summarized as this; the Isan type girls or those with higher mileage would quote you 1,000 - 1,200 Baht and can be bargained down. Especially after bar closing there would be more flexibility in price.
Those catering to Asian clients mostly quoted 1,500 Baht ST or even higher and not budged lower than 1.5k as far as I have tried. It gave me impression that those Japanese guys have spoiled the market, I just hope that this will not spillover to the other group of girls.

Took one of the good looking one out, and she took me upstairs hotel in the same building (Manhattan?) which cost 500 B but there was no available room (Wow!) So, went out to flag down a cab to the side lane from Soi 3 (Nana Nuea) to a hotel call Penthouse. Adequate room but not particularly nice, just OK, ST room rate is 310 B.

The girl I took requested for advance payment right after shower which I refused with smile, telling her not to worry I will pay her as agreed and she gave in.

Had a so so CBJ and alright sex but the girl seemed to have low mileage as I felt that she's not so oftenly utilized. She told me later that she just do this over weekend or when money is tight.

One thing I like about Thermae is the diversity of girls there; though many are long time professionals but also many are freelancers looking for extra income from all walk of life. Just sititng there sipping cold beer and you can observe how differently men approach women for those from opposite side of our hemisphere!

[AsiaTraveler2]

Here's the Web site of Pegasus .

In my book, the interior decoration was more stunning than the women. The girls were indeed very attractively dressed and turned out, but I didn't get a WOW! feeling at first glance.

I went there as a guest of Asian business associates. The experience was again proof that there's no universal concept of beauty and standards vary considerably from culture to culture, not to mention among individuals. I could see very little difference between the PR girls, sideliners and models, but to my hosts (from Taiwan) it was crystal clear. One of them summed it up this way: "Of course the models are prettier, they cost more."

Evil

Evil,

I do agree that there is no universally accepted view of beauty. Prices in general, though, do reflect demand and therefore are an indicator of some combination of skills, looks and service. Ambience and exclusivity also has value to some. Yes, some places are marketed better, but without any real value, those places soon disappear. Pegasus has been around for a while.

The girls in Pegasus may not meet your view of beauty, but someone is paying those prices for those girls and must be getting some value for it. In my opinion, you can find girls who look as good or better outside the Eden Club for less baht. What is implied in Eden's pricing and the reason they can charge more is reputation based off prior service levels. You might say "of course the service is better, it costs more".

Your quote you posted of the Taiwan host makes him look like an idiot, and I suspect his view/opinion may not have come across as intended. He may have simply meant that historically, the girls in the higher priced category are better looking or provide better service. Just a guess. As my handle indicates, I also spend a lot of time in Asia and also live in the only State in the US where 50% of the population is Asian (US born and Asia born). I don't know any Asians, friends or business associates, who would be sold on someone's looks just because they are priced higher. They are not idiots and they are not sheep.

Even in the Soapies, the "models" are not always better looking than the other fishbowl girls. Taken as a group, they generally are. I do suspect that they do have a following based on the complete package (skills, looks and consistently good service).

I found that Pegasus was much like Soi 33. Mostly more packaging than substance, but I did have a very good time with one of the girls there a few years back. There are also some stunning woman there from time to time, just like Soi 33. Just don't expect it everytime. They will show you the membership set up, but you do not need to be a member.

I would say it's worth a look, but don't go there if the Soi 33 prices bother you, since it's actually a bit more expensive than they are.

AT2

[Jimmy Red Cab]

When is it not a good to visit Thailand?

When you are broke. !!!

OK, seriously, any time is good but I personally would avoid Christmas and New Years Eve.
Also bear in mind that September/October are the wettest months.

I almost forgot, avoid Songkran unless you like water thrown over you day after day.
Songkran is supposed to be 13th to 15th April but in Pattaya it continues until 19th.

[Retired Army]

Here's the Web site of Pegasus .

In my book, the interior decoration was more stunning than the women. The girls were indeed very attractively dressed and turned out, but I didn't get a WOW! feeling at first glance.

I went there as a guest of Asian business associates. The experience was again proof that there's no universal concept of beauty and standards vary considerably from culture to culture, not to mention among individuals. I could see very little difference between the PR girls, sideliners and models, but to my hosts (from Taiwan) it was crystal clear. One of them summed it up this way: "Of course the models are prettier, they cost more."

Evil

The inside is gaudy and overdone. It's a cathouse! But it's the total experience that counts.

[M P Lurker]

Here's the Web site of Pegasus .

In my book, the interior decoration was more stunning than the women. The girls were indeed very attractively dressed and turned out, but I didn't get a WOW! feeling at first glance.
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Evil

I see your point Evil,
Viewing the web site I don't see any girls as pretty as my favourite girls at "Long Gun"

[Ralph Kramden]

Well stated EP. I couldn't agree more with your outstanding commentary and myself would much rather hook up with a cute busty country looking girl for half or one third the price than a so-called sophisticated model.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Evil Penivel]

The closest you are going to get in the P4P arena is the Pegagus.

Here's the Web site of Pegasus .

In my book, the interior decoration was more stunning than the women. The girls were indeed very attractively dressed and turned out, but I didn't get a WOW! feeling at first glance.

I went there as a guest of Asian business associates. The experience was again proof that there's no universal concept of beauty and standards vary considerably from culture to culture, not to mention among individuals. I could see very little difference between the PR girls, sideliners and models, but to my hosts (from Taiwan) it was crystal clear. One of them summed it up this way: "Of course the models are prettier, they cost more."

Evil

[ArchieLeach]

Japentii,

See my comments in BKK MP thread.

I don't want to cross-post.

Archie

[Member #3428]

Went to Bangkok recently and tried some new things. I have stayed with one lady lately and this was our third trip together, I have not paid her since the first night together, but of course I pay indirectly and it is more expensive then just paying a BF and such, but she’s a good kid and is my tour guide, maid, cook, just everything. So this trip I had to go down to Chonburi and visit a place called ES-TA-TE. It is a tent camp inside khaokeaw zoo. A quick ride down there from BKK but you are out of the city which I enjoy. The tents have air conditioning and a refrigerator so it isn’t like it’s roughing it. The bathrooms are clean and nice. For staying there the food is large and delicious and you get your meals and such, as well as a day safari and a night safari. The next day you can do whate6ver you want, walk around or rent bikes or ATV or whatever. We woke up the one morning with deer and monkey’s right outside our place. Very nice. But more importantly, I had to go and I decided to take this lady along and it turns out that she really had a blast, she said it was one of her most favorite things she’s done. And making her happy, she went out of her way to make me happy.

http://www.estateresort.com/?lang=en

Another thing we did was on advice of a poster here, we went to Siam Niramit. I enjoyed the show very much and would recommend it to anyone, if you are with a girl or a wife or whatever, it was nice. I liked the little village you can walk around in before the show and would recommend going early. The lady and I had a great evening together and of course she’s never even heard of it, it’s only a year and a half old. But she really enjoyed it, and as such, I got good enjoyment from it afterwards.

www.siamniramit.com

Another item we ended up doing was going on Loy Nava dinner cruise. This was nice, they picked us up at the hotel and we board a small rice barge, only about 12 tables, very intimate and private, not like a large disco / dance type barge that are on the river. This evening dinner was very intimate. The meal was very good but it was more of something that the girl would not have done normally.

http://www.loynava.com/

Obviously I would not make reservations and take any old BG with me, but if you find one you like and enjoy time with, I’d recommend either of the three above for a change of pace.

[ThaiLearner]

hi guys,

first time poster here. i am heading to bangkok for a short stay. staying at the davis hotel (88 sukhumvit 24). since i am not familiar with bangkok's geography, transportation, etc. i was hoping someone could recommend some nice massage parlours near the hotel, or if not, ways of getting to nice massage parlours.

requirements:

- i would like to try a soapy massage
- preferably somewhere that offers nice gfe and 2 shots
- not absolutely necessary, but any place that offers bbbj and cim would be nice.
- not too expensive

thanks in advance.

japentii

you should try edens on soi 7 and also [CodeWord900]

[Retired Army]

I know this will probably draw a barrage of RTFF responses, but here goes. Recently divorced, and also dumped at the same time by married Filipina mistress who caused the divorce in the first place, and can't stand the thought of spending the Christmas/New Years holidays here in the USA Alone. Thinking of flying out on Christmas Day to either BKK or MNL for a 3 week holiday. Never been to LOS during the Christmas holidays (last visits were 03-04 and 01-05). Is this a bad time to visit BKK and/otr Pattaya? Is the selction of ladies much less than usual? Given that LOS is not a Christian nation, per se, I would hope that it wouldn't make as much difference as in the Phils. Anyone been to BKK or Pattaya during this time period? What was your experience like? Harder than usual to find good talent?

Another idea might be Muslim Indonesia.

Comments appreciated

When is it not a good to visit Thailand?