Stupid shit in Medellin

[Villainy]

You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?

So in your view, Baby Elvis can issue all kinds of personal attacks on anyone at anytime. BUT if they respond in kind, it is their fault. Go back to your street girls in Bogota and leave the real discussions to the people who have an education.

[Woodman09]

For example, if I were to say that Elvis is a corpulent, needle dick, turd eating Martian who engages in felching, that would only be a lie if it wasn't true, and I knew it wasn't true. Otherwise, it's just an unsubstantiated allegation.

You Are-- What has Elvis done to you? I mean it is just so strange your personal attacks on him. You seem psychotic / unstable. Care to explain?

[Huacho]

For example, if I were to say that Elvis is a corpulent, needle dick, turd eating Martian who engages in felching, that would only be a lie if it wasn't true, and I knew it wasn't true. Otherwise, it's just an unsubstantiated allegation.

[Elvis 2008]

Now you see? Your lack of education keeps showcasing your stupidity. ANY sentence that starts with "What if" is called a hypothetical. By definition a hypothetical cannot be a lie.

And now you lie again. What if you are a lying turd eating martian cockroach? That is not an insult because is said what if. It is a hypothetical. Are you really this fucking stupid?

[JustTK]

Are you sure that's not what you wrote?

I understand that is what they say, but it's simply not true.

All of this information is readily available, so I'm confused about your reluctance to check their beginning definition of polio.

Yes, I am sure. As your quote shows, I wrote that Polio is a paralysis caused by swelling. You wrote as me saying its swelling.

If you choose to define Polio by your terms, that's fine. They define it as smthg else. They would say you are describing the virus, not the condition.

But anyway, you are asking me so many Qs about this video yet you sy you don't want to watch it. Are you sure? I feel like the middle man between you and the video creators. These are their opinions, not mine. I simply wrote the video was interesting and persuasive. You could take your points up with them if you watched it, and save me the job.

The reason this came up at all was bcos I was demonstrating my point that the science community often make many mistakes, and gave DDT as an example. Everything else has been a distrraction.

[Villainy]

What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.

And now you are lying.

Now you see? Your lack of education keeps showcasing your stupidity. ANY sentence that starts with "What if" is called a hypothetical. By definition a hypothetical cannot be a lie. You may contest either clause. You could say, for example, the dependant clause ("What if") is false or untrue OR you could contest the independant clause ("then this would happen") as being erroneous or that you disagree with it.

But like I said before. You don't know what a lie is AND you obviously didn't do very well in you studies of the English language either.

It must be embarrassing to be constantly reminded of your lack of education.

[JjBee62]

Thats good. Bcos its not what I wrote nor how the defined. They say it is a paralysis.

Are you sure that's not what you wrote?

But I can say that your starting 'fact' is dealt with at the start of the video. Polio is a condition of paralysis caused by swlling at the base of the spine. It can be caused by virus or several other factors. Thats their definition.

I understand that is what they say, but it's simply not true. Polio is a contagious disease caused by the poliomyelitis virus. There were 3 strains of the virus, 2 have been eradicated due to the success of worldwide vaccination. The third strain is only active in 2 countries, Pakistan and Afghanistan. There is also a lab created strain, used to produce the vaccines.

In most cases the virus attacks the gastrointestinal system and it causes flu like symptoms. In about 1 of every 200 infections the virus migrates to the central nervous system. Once there it destroys neurons which can cause paralysis. Like other viral infections, it is identified by the presence of antibodies in the blood.

Many different things can cause paralysis, temporary and permanent. Swelling causes temporary paralysis by interruptingthe neural pathway. Once the swelling goes away the pathway is restored. Damage to a neural pathway causes permanent paralysis.

All of this information is readily available, so I'm confused about your reluctance to check their beginning definition of polio.

[Elvis 2008]

Someone comes along and states that you wish to join their sect. Is that a lie? Of course not!
Is it factual? Only you can answer that. But it can't be a lie because it wasn't an intentional statement trying to deceive anyone.

And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.

What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.

And now you are lying.

Not a Surprise. Your lack of education is shining through once again. You shouldn't use big words (like "lie") that you don't understand.

Did you ever go to college? Did you ever take a philosophy course?

Is that your excuse when you lie about people? Saying you are more educated than people? That sounds like something you would do. Great "group" you belong to.

And your "group" is voting for this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wso4sTKT6jw.

[JustTK]

I understand that's "their" definition, but it's not a correct definition. if I stayed around to see them explain polio as a swelling at the base of the spine, I'd probably have said a few choice words, before walking away. Polio isn't a swelling.

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Thats good. Bcos its not what I wrote nor how the defined. They say it is a paralysis.

[Villainy]

Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.

Yes, Huacho, you are a predictably stupid liar at this point.

Not a Surprise. Your lack of education is shining through once again. You shouldn't use big words (like "lie") that you don't understand.

Did you ever go to college? Did you ever take a philosophy course?

Let me give you some clarification. If I say that "Joe Biden is a much better President than was Donald Trump. " You may disagree. Say whatever you want.

BUT it isn't a "lie" it is an "opinion". An opinion may or may not have a factual basis. Even you, Elvis, can have an opinion without being a liar.

Here is another: I tell you today's date is Saturday May 24th, 2024. Well, that isn't true, is it? Today is Saturday, May 25th 2024. Was that a lie? Of course not!

It wasn't a lie, it wasn't an opinion. It was a mistake. What is the difference between a lie and a mistake? Intent! If I was intentionally trying to deceive you then it was a lie.

If it was unintentional then it was a mistake.

But wait! There is more.

What if you profess your admiration for the Amish sect and their refusal to have the members of their sect vaccinated because it goes against their medieval religious beliefs.

Someone comes along and states that you wish to join their sect. Is that a lie? Of course not! It is a statement made to highlight the stupidity of your previous comments.

Is it factual? Only you can answer that. But it can't be a lie because it wasn't an intentional statement trying to deceive anyone.

[Elvis 2008]

She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.

LOL. Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen just testified in court. No, he is not an alleged lawyer. He went to Yale, and he laid out a case with "experts" just like what was done with Covid. Instead of focusing on what he got wrong, and he got a lot wrong, because like Covid the "experts" had a huge conflict of interest.

In fact, the most compelling part of the book was the anecdotal, the author's own story. The rest was trash. The virgin birth, the date of December 25, the concept of more than one God (the Trinity) were advertisements to get the pagans to sign up, and the whole concept of asexuality of Jesus and his mother just seemed like such contrived notions to me. The church has been using sex to control people practically since its inception. Priests could not have legitimate children. Jesus never got laid and then there was the nonsense that the Bible and Jesus supported monogamy.

This was the exact same thing with Covid. The CDC and the NIH were protecting a brand by calling themselves experts and using political not scientific expertise to put people in check. When the best seller the the Vinci Code comes out, everyone freaks. Jesus had sex and a child, and that story is popular? Noooo!

Guys like this preached the Bible was perfect. It was the word of God which was always nonsense. There were all different kinds of gospels and without copy machines, scribes would not just err in copying the Bibles but get bored and make up their own stories. The four gospels in the Bible were a political not spiritual decision and the current Bible was not even that. Our current Bible just happened to be the book closest to the first known printing presses. There was no debate then about which book was most accurate.

The basis of the the Vinci code was one small paragraph about Jesus having sex and being in love with Mary Magdalene in one of the alternative gospels. So what? Those facts should not get in the way of the wisdom that is in the Bible but if you think your way is the best and only way, a tool for power which is ironic because Jesus preached that having power was not worth seeking as God had it all, then there are and were problems. The book was all politics and yes court rooms are political theater. Being popular trumps being right in court. So yeah, it was garbage and totally wrong, but the book was popular because it told people what they wanted to hear which is the same with you and Covid. You wanted to believe the government knew what it was doing when it obviously did not.

Swelling isn't a permanent condition. In many cases, swelling can be controlled with steroids. In almost all cases, once the cause of swelling is removed, the swelling goes away.

Steroids can reduce certain swelling short term but cause swelling long term. And swelling most certainly can be a chronic condition. You do not know what you are talking about. Just stop.

[Villainy]

………..
This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who wanted to steer me into her religion. She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.

Sounds like another oldie but goodie "The Screwtape Letters" written by CS Lewis.

[JjBee62]

I am smart enough to know that to make a decent effort to just summarise the main arguments would take several hours, and it would ultimately be an exercise in futility. Flogging a dead horse. The 2 guys in the video know far more about it than I will ever do, they have done the work (especially the author of the book), and they make a much better presentation than I coud ever make, so I really don't see any point in me wasting my time on it. If you were interested, you would watch the video and even read the book. And I can save my time and put it to better personal use. :)

But I can say that your starting 'fact' is dealt with at the start of the video. Polio is a condition of paralysis caused by swlling at the base of the spine. It can be caused by virus or several other factors. Thats their definition.

I understand that's "their" definition, but it's not a correct definition. If I had bothered to watch the video, I would have stopped right there, rolled my eyes and walked away. However, if I stayed around to see them explain polio as a swelling at the base of the spine, I'd probably have said a few choice words, before walking away. Polio isn't a swelling. Once the virus gets into the central nervous system, it destroys nerve cells, which creates the appearance of swelling.

This is a huge fundamental difference. Swelling isn't a permanent condition. In many cases, swelling can be controlled with steroids. In almost all cases, once the cause of swelling is removed, the swelling goes away. COVID-19 can cause that swelling and I can verify the swelling can lead to temporary paralysis. Nerve damage is irreversible. In some cases of Traumatic Brain Injury, different neural pathways can be used, although there are some side effects. Aphasia is common.

This is why I don't get my information from videos. Someone can make a great presentation, and it can sound incredibly convincing, but everything you're seeing is what they want you to see and everything path is the one they steered you down. You're not being asked to think, you're being told to believe without questions.

This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who wanted to steer me into her religion. She had a book "The Case For Christ" written by an alleged lawyer. The format was a trial, to prove or disprove the existence and divinity of Jesus Christ. To me it was hilarious. Every bit of his "evidence" would have been inadmissible in an actual court and the logical fallacies were non-stop.

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.

And no, I do not love the Amish or want to be a part of their group. I love freedom and as someone who loves freedom, that means leaving the Amish the fuck alone.

Yes, Huacho, you are a predictably stupid liar at this point.

What I do not get about you is you have the freedom to monger and travel but you are willing to throw you freedom in the trash over the smallest scare. Huacho, the government does not like your conduct and seeing that is all that matters to you, you must really hate yourself.

[Huacho]

Elvis really wishes he could join the Amish. Dude, it's not a club.