Medellin Reports

[JimmyStreets]

Yes, I have noticed most of the Americans in El Pobado wear short pants. I have told many of the NYC gentlemen to get rid of their gold chains and flashy jewelry and hide their cell phone or they will be snatched by some Colombian thief on a motorcycle or by one with a knife. Colombians all wear long pants as a sign of respect and few can afford flashy watches and gold chains. And please leave your "boom boxes" at home. I have seen many playing "ghetto" music loudly from their boom boxes while walking on Avenida 43 in El Poblado. It disturbs me and I am sure it disturbs the Colombians more.

Nah. Walk around the malls you'll see plenty of Colombians wearing shorts. Why wear pants and long sleeve shirts when its 80 degrees outside? Its silly. Anyways be yourself. Your a gringo whether you wear pants or shorts.

[Knowledge]

I don't see loud music upsetting Colombians, if they notice it all. It bothers the hell out of me but I'm not Colombian and I don't put loudspeakers facing outside my apartment windows at all hours the way Colombians do.

Yes, I have noticed most of the Americans in El Pobado wear short pants. I have told many of the NYC gentlemen to get rid of their gold chains and flashy jewelry and hide their cell phone or they will be snatched by some Colombian thief on a motorcycle or by one with a knife. Colombians all wear long pants as a sign of respect and few can afford flashy watches and gold chains. And please leave your "boom boxes" at home. I have seen many playing "ghetto" music loudly from their boom boxes while walking on Avenida 43 in El Poblado. It disturbs me and I am sure it disturbs the Colombians more.

[Knowledge]

Yes, it's normally going to be some combination of those two factors. A good way to limit that sort of scrutiny is to avoid walking in and out with girls so you aren't the star of the building administration's security camera shows (yes, building administrators typically look over security footage on a regular basis). Local girls are much less conspicuous coming and going alone than they are when they come and go with an older punter in tow.

Could be for a wide variety of reasons ranging from maybe the chic looked young to the neighbor just hates foreigners bringing girls to the Airbnb.

[Gabacho]

That is funny. I thought all the veterans here said the only one having problems with Colombian customs in Medellin was me.

As much as I hate to admit it, maybe Elvis was right and I was wrong. Maybe they are targeting single male gringos going thru migration Colombia. That has never been my experience, although I usually go thru Bogota more often than I go thru Medellin.

That being said if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't have a problem. As Elvis mentioned if you want to take extra precautions it wouldn't hurt to have a new phone and leave your personal phone at home.

This guy hobo3 wasnt doing anything wrong, he even asked the girl for her cedula and tried his best to make sure she was not underage, and yet the neighbors still made a fuss and then the police show up at his place making a whole scene as if he was a criminal.

A word of advice would be to maybe not bring girls back to your place for now atleast until the heat dies down. Maybe just visit establishments that are on-site or short time hotels that are designated for mongering activities, then atleast you avoid the disgruntled neighbors and police banging on your door wanting to take your photograph.

Or even better yet check out other areas of the country besides Medellin. As Elvis mentioned, Bogota is great, I have also had great times in Cucuta as well. If you like vennies there are many of them to be had there. Of course if you like dark chocolate, then Cali is worth checking out as well. And last but not least, the eje cafetero region while smaller and slower paced does have some gems to found in places like Armenia and Pereira.

Remember to Monger, but monger Safely.

Gabacho Out.

[Nounce]

How much for the girl? Was the savings worth the hassle?

Personally, I am happy to pay the 600 K La Isla charges because I know that a bunch of cops are not going to knock on my door in the middle of me having sex and take pictures of me.

It comes down to the service level and the cost is secondary. What you do not know is that you are paying a lot more for a very limited service and limited time. If you are happy, then good for you. La Isla used to cost less than half of what it costs now and with better service at all levels for a single person. The same thing can be said about Loutron.

For that amount of money, some can get 2 to stay all night with little restriction, and maybe not worse looking girls too.

[Goped28]

I find it difficult to understand why she would call the cops if there was no noise coming from your apartment.

Could be for a wide variety of reasons ranging from maybe the chic looked young to the neighbor just hates foreigners bringing girls to the Airbnb.

[HumbleHal]

Sadly, these guys are not doing anyone any favors. Last time I had three 'bros' from Chicago in line behind me. One had a wifebeater t-shirt, shorts, crocks, fake Rolex, Prada backpack. Another was traveling in sweats and loud t-shirt. All three had diamond earrings and excessive necklaces. All three were loud and talking about how they would have to hide their jewelry before the 'bitches took their shit', all the partying they were going to do, some 'buddy' who was going to hook them up, etc. Yes, those actual words, no respect, no class, no care, all ego. ... What delay they may have faced, no clue.

My advice, as always, is when traveling to a foreign country. Blend in. Aim to look, not like a local as that may not be possible, but at least as an expatriate who lives there. Dress like they do, be calm, don't be loud, and above all be super respectful. It goes a long way. They will more readily accept you as 'one of them' and your trip will be exponentially more pleasant.

Yes, I have noticed most of the Americans in El Pobado wear short pants. I have told many of the NYC gentlemen to get rid of their gold chains and flashy jewelry and hide their cell phone or they will be snatched by some Colombian thief on a motorcycle or by one with a knife. Colombians all wear long pants as a sign of respect and few can afford flashy watches and gold chains. And please leave your "boom boxes" at home. I have seen many playing "ghetto" music loudly from their boom boxes while walking on Avenida 43 in El Poblado. It disturbs me and I am sure it disturbs the Colombians more.

[Turgid]

...... I did find one keeper, she was 20 yr old spinner. I am very very discreet and checked her ID. 20 minutes after she arrives, I hear the loudest banging on my door and it's 4 police officers! They came in furious, screaming asking questions. Apparently, a lady in the building called the cops........

I find it difficult to understand why she would call the cops if there was no noise coming from your apartment.

[DiscoverFL]

No. I was in Medellin last week and had no problem entering through airport immigration, however I am in my late 60's. I did notice many younger males in line and they slowed down the process quite a bit. The young, single males in line were getting questioned much more at the front booth and this made it much longer to get through. Heck, 75% of the non-Colombian airline passengers were young men 20-30, probably sex tourists!

Sadly, these guys are not doing anyone any favors. Last time I had three 'bros' from Chicago in line behind me. One had a wifebeater t-shirt, shorts, crocks, fake Rolex, Prada backpack. Another was traveling in sweats and loud t-shirt. All three had diamond earrings and excessive necklaces. All three were loud and talking about how they would have to hide their jewelry before the 'bitches took their shit', all the partying they were going to do, some 'buddy' who was going to hook them up, etc. Yes, those actual words, no respect, no class, no care, all ego. I was honestly ashamed and embarrassed to be in front of them and I don't think I would have been upset if they were grilled at immigration. When I walked to the agent (female) and I saw that she clearly was looking past me at the 'bros' with a concerned face, I said an "Ay Dios mio!" exasperated statement with rolling eyes, she smiled at me, and then I was super polite (rest was in English), and she stamped me right in. What delay they may have faced, no clue.

My advice, as always, is when traveling to a foreign country. Blend in. Aim to look, not like a local as that may not be possible, but at least as an expatriate who lives there. Dress like they do, be calm, don't be loud, and above all be super respectful. It goes a long way. They will more readily accept you as 'one of them' and your trip will be exponentially more pleasant.

[JustTK]

It sound familiar based on you have to go through or more likely squat down to an opening in the dj booth. Its probably the one near Conjitos on Calle 53.The only el Centro strip club that had any decent rooms was Conejitos.

Probably Grill Avenida. But could be Victoria too. Both have ducking access to the rooms. Actually Victoria just upgraded the access to theirs a few weeks ago. Hilton Bar also has decent rooms.

[CeeJay1]

But at a strip club 2 blocks from the nutty (and thus 2 streets from Centro) it was 80 mil for Medio with bbj. 100 mil for BBFS. It was the one where you enter the rooms through the dj booth. It's near Centro.

Which club did you get 100 K BBFS?

It sound familiar based on you have to go through or more likely squat down to an opening in the dj booth. Its probably the one near Conjitos on Calle 53 across from Parque Botero. It's just a few spots before you hit the corner and make your way to cross the street to Hotel Nutibara. Getting BBFS there or any of these strip clubs is just a stroke of luck. It's not a given. I was there last year and very surprised it was still open. I was there once and that was a very long time ago and I remember bending down to go through low doorway in the DJ booth. The rooms if I remember were horrible. The only el Centro strip club that had any decent rooms was Conejitos.

[DonCarlos1234]

That is funny.

If you want to bang Colombian women, go to Bogota where this shit is not going on. Or at the very least, fly into Bogota and go to Medellin after.

Wasn't a "plan" to avoid the tourism police or whatever. But it worked out that way. I land in BOG, then fly with GF to Medellin. Do tours together. We are registered at nice Airbnb in Laurelles / also Dann Carlton. Except for my phone pics. (I need to hide those from her anyway). LOL what could go wrong? She's 23 - I look 50 ish.. in my mind, I'm 29. LOL I will get wheelchair thru customs. I doubt they will check anything. I will say she is my nurse. Maybe hide the handcuffs etc. Fuk Tijuana I will report. In July.

[JustTK]

Where exactly in Itagui?

There are 2 or 3 of them nearby each other next to the main square (parque). Plus Club International on the main highway.

[Gabacho]

What is the current going rate for the overpriced tourists spots you mentioned? Parque, isla, loutron, etc.

I heard it has gone up alot in just 2 yrs.

I know in parque lleras and the surrounding area the street girls are starting out around 250 k pesos now. However there have been reports that some are asking in dollars for $100 usd.

In Gustos it has been reported here that girls quote in dollars as high as $300 usd for one hour of service. (probably the single most tourist price you can get in Medellin).

I don't frequent these places so I'm just going off of what has been reported here or what women who work both Centro and Poblado have told me. One guy recently posted that he spent $150 usd at la isla for some 10 minute bullshit service and Loutron has been mentioned as a tourist trap for newbies with high prices as well.

As I said plaza botero, Parque Berrio Metro station in the stairways, coffee girls, candy girls, and now apparently water girls are also doing "ratos" you just have to ask. CRA 53 backside of the museum and across the street where the bars are. Also Centro clubs such as Barra Ejecutiva Grill Nueva and Conejitos will offer more reasonable prices if you want the club atmosphere.

Gabacho Out.

[Elvis 2008]

The Colombia laws are also tricky. Colombia law allows seizure of the property if someone is caught within the property with a minor. It is not worth the risk, for the owner or the renter.

Question: how did you handle the phone search question? do they have the legal right to search your phone as you're entering the country? I don't know the answer to this. I know USA CBP does have the right. What do they expect to find on your phone that could get you in trouble? Let's say you have compromising photos of you and some other women on your phone, so what? How did they know that the people in the photos are not 18? Or do you think they asked you for your phone just to mess with you? Does anyone know answers to these questions?

Vitrea, you are not a citizen. If the police perceive you as a threat, they can do what they want. The question about seizure has to do with whether or not they need a warrant or not. You can seize anything with a warrant. So whether customs needs a warrant or not, and my guess is they do not, is just an issue of semantics.

They are searching your phone to deny you entry to their country so ask yourself what would customs see to prevent you from entering.

And if you see google's timeline feature, it is really damned accurate about where you have been. It is super easy track your prior locations, and I suspect customs will get to that soon. Obviously, you should shut off that feature on your phone but you can still be tracked even if you turn it off.

So if you have been going to Colombia and mongering before, don't even bother cleaning up your phone. Get a new phone and new number before entering. And once you get to Colombia, leave that phone in your hotel and use a burner phone when mongering.