Medellin Reports

[Colbrotha]

I cannot share this statement. Having worked in Colombia I experienced that lawyers, engineers and medical doctors for example do not speak English or only very basic English unless they work for foreign companies. These people are not peasant class at all. Thus Spanish is a must to get into contact with locals.

I agree 100 por ciento with TuDueno. After being out of Colombia for several years, my ex-best friend, and a distant cousin were the only people that came close to being fluent in English. One sells products to the US, the other an Engineer working for a Canadian Oil Company. All the doctors, dentists, entrepreneurs, accountants, that I've come across at Club Campestre or through business couldn't speak a word of English to save their lives PERIOD. Pulling TOP SHELF BREEZIES (9-10s) can only be done with Spanish at the end of the day. You can't be in with the family if you can't communicate in Spanish. Dos Centavos.

[TuDueno]

Not too sure about that. Only the lowest of the lowest peasant class at the bottom of the totem pole will not speak English. Any middle-class Colombian with standard education will speak fluent English and will be international minded. Only if you're going for the uneducated peasant girls will Spanish become a necessity. A middle-class guy from abroad ought to be able to find middle-class Colombian lady of equivalent age and social status without a problem.

I cannot share this statement. Having worked in Colombia I experienced that lawyers, engineers and medical doctors for example do not speak English or only very basic English unless they work for foreign companies. These people are not peasant class at all. Thus Spanish is a must to get into contact with locals.

[Colbrotha]

Not too sure about that. Only the lowest of the lowest peasant class at the bottom of the totem pole will not speak English. Any middle-class Colombian with standard education will speak fluent English and will be international minded. Only if you're going for the uneducated peasant girls will Spanish become a necessity. A middle-class guy from abroad ought to be able to find middle-class Colombian lady of equivalent age and social status without a problem.

I have to agree with Wilt on this one. I went to high school in Bucaramanga so I can say from what I've seen that English is not spoken that much at all in that part of Colombia. Most students have to take English Classes for six years (from primero sexto). And with all that preparation and years of learning, no matter what your level is (estratos) , only a few speak more than the basic "Hello,","Thank You","I Love You" nonsense. The Colombians are just too shy, that's what I figured to be the problem; Les the pena. You have to understand, people are running around town with SHIT on their shirt written in English and are clueless as to what it even says. I lived there for four years and maybe ran into a couple of people that spoke broken English, but DAD FUN 555 said middle class speak fluently. This is simply not true. That will give thewrong impression to all foreigners / gringos visiting. You can get around without speaking the language within the bigger cities, in certain areas, like the International Zone in Bogota. You'll run into lot of gringos in certain touristy areas throughout Colombia, no doubt. But the average person doesn't have the slightest clue about communicating in our language. Because of that, I think we're one up on them, since we're not afraid to go there, and hang out, and speak in their tongue even though its more than obvious that we have an accent; yet they (meaning Colombians collectively) are afraid to speak my language. My Spanish is good, damn good, but you can still hear the accent. I keep everybody guessing, as you should, they think maybe Bolivia or Peru, but not a a gringo accent.

On Dad's last point, I thoroughly agree, someone middle class would've travelled outside of Colombia and has had their horizons opened to a different point of view. But even still, a gringo / american / european middle class, is way above their middle class financially. Hence if you move there, and are in good shape, and can speak conversational spanish, one should pull TOP SHELF at the end of the day; sooner or later, because we simply have more to offer and have more money. It's that simple.

[Member #4244]

Not too sure about that. Only the lowest of the lowest peasant class at the bottom of the totem pole will not speak English. Any middle-class Colombian with standard education will speak fluent English and will be international minded. Only if you're going for the uneducated peasant girls will Spanish become a necessity. A middle-class guy from abroad ought to be able to find middle-class Colombian lady of equivalent age and social status without a problem.

I would say that is a bit of an overstatement, I have met many educated girls and girls from say strata 4 neighborhoods that spoke little or no English. The second party of what you are saying is definitely accurate but bear in mind that they are going for a short time.

[Member #4244]

The freebie scene? Colombia is not really a liberal one night stand type of place. There are no singles bars where drunk women are looking for random hook ups like Sex In The City. That is North America and Europe. You should probable take your vacation there.

If you are looking for P4P Colombia is great. For me on a sex vacation I would go to the Caribbean like Curacao, Saint Martin, Aruba. Have a really nice vaca with putas and beach and other good things. Other activities? Medellin has some malls or you could visit Pablo's grave or take in the Botero paintings. That wold kill a few hours. The Feria down here just ended but that always aoffer things to do. Try next year end of July beginning of August.

Seriously if you are not coming down for working girls I can think of 10 other better places to get what you are looking for. JMHO

I have found it relatively easy to have one-nighters in Colombia, in MDE I feel like it's a lot of effort for nothing though, you will just wind up paying more, expending more energy and getting more of a mixed bag than you would with a pro. Medium-sized cities you can have more success, strangely a friend and I also had good luck in BAQ but that may have been just that, good luck.

Medellin has some stuff to do, it just depends on your age and interests. If you are young and want to have cheap fun, you can hang out in Parque Periodista and some of the neighboring areas (Bello for example). That doesn't sound like the kind of scene they'd be after though. You've got some nice little spas to take dates to near by, could kill a weekend there. El Penol and that kind of mountainous, naturey stuff. During holiday (Feria de las Flores, Semana Santa, etc) there is a lot of stuff going on in the pueblos, saw some interesting festivals (Santa Fe de Antoquia, Rio Negro, etc.)

It's not Paris and it doesn't have a beach but it's not boring to me. Aruba, Curacao, well the beach is the saving grace there otherwise there is fuck all to do.

[Mrkuyamandla]

2 questions.

1) Has anyone here ever mapped out the places? In the quito forum, someone took images from google maps and wrote in the names of those places. It was super convenient. If one exists for Medellin, I'd love to see it.

2) I'm near the Santa Fe mall (high end malls adjacent to one another. Forgot the name of the other, starts with an O). Does anyone know the closest places to this area?

Thanks

[Mrkuyamandla]

The freebie scene? Colombia is not really a liberal one night stand type of place. There are no singles bars where drunk women are looking for random hook ups like Sex In The City. That is North America and Europe. You should probable take your vacation there.

If you are looking for P4P Colombia is great. For me on a sex vacation I would go to the Caribbean like Curacao, Saint Martin, Aruba. Have a really nice vaca with putas and beach and other good things. Other activities? Medellin has some malls or you could visit Pablo's grave or take in the Botero paintings. That wold kill a few hours. The Feria down here just ended but that always aoffer things to do. Try next year end of July beginning of August.

Seriously if you are not coming down for working girls I can think of 10 other better places to get what you are looking for. JMHO

You can meet regular chicks too if you speak spanish. Around zona rosa. (applies to Bogota and Cartagena). Plenty of those girls would love a ticket out of there and a guy with money to spend.

[Hioctane]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful reports. I have a question I could not find on my own or maybe I'm not looking in the right places.

I have two friends that want to go to South or Central America for a guys' long weekend (4-5 nights). Could you gents please suggest which city you would go to for the freebie scene and other activities? I was considering Medellin or Cartegena, but also welcome ideas outside of Colombia. My friends are in their mid-thirties.

Thanks!

As other's have pointed out. For the low class, uneducated and young chicas, you'll need some Spanish. For someone to speak English, you'll need to go after older chicas. 25+ that have gone to a university. You might try Parque Lleras. If they have money, that's where they would go. It's still hit or miss because you'll get a lot that don't speak spanish too. However, it's a lot easier if you make a connection on a dating site, looking for 25+ with an education.

Like any country. Either speak the language and go after everyone or go after the older, educated women.

[EstebanH]

Lighten up Franciss, hahaha, a little light hearted humor is fun, breaks up the same questions over and over again, it's cool.

Most of the newbies I meet are respectful too, but we all pay our newbie dues.

You are right. My apologies to The Stilt. Its all good.

[Ezyngo]

I apologize to you gentlemen. This report was mistakenly posted on the 'Colombian Peso exchange rate and related issues'.

Good day gents.

EZ

[LuckyEddie]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful reports. I have a question I could not find on my own or maybe I'm not looking in the right places.

I have two friends that want to go to South or Central America for a guys' long weekend (4-5 nights). Could you gents please suggest which city you would go to for the freebie scene and other activities? I was considering Medellin or Cartegena, but also welcome ideas outside of Colombia. My friends are in their mid-thirties.

Thanks!

The freebie scene? Colombia is not really a liberal one night stand type of place. There are no singles bars where drunk women are looking for random hook ups like Sex In The City. That is North America and Europe. You should probable take your vacation there.

If you are looking for P4P Colombia is great. For me on a sex vacation I would go to the Caribbean like Curacao, Saint Martin, Aruba. Have a really nice vaca with putas and beach and other good things. Other activities? Medellin has some malls or you could visit Pablo's grave or take in the Botero paintings. That wold kill a few hours. The Feria down here just ended but that always aoffer things to do. Try next year end of July beginning of August.

Seriously if you are not coming down for working girls I can think of 10 other better places to get what you are looking for. JMHO

[Dad Fun 555]

Forget Colombia. You will not get non pros unless you speak Spanish, and have more time than less than a week.

Not too sure about that. Only the lowest of the lowest peasant class at the bottom of the totem pole will not speak English. Any middle-class Colombian with standard education will speak fluent English and will be international minded. Only if you're going for the uneducated peasant girls will Spanish become a necessity. A middle-class guy from abroad ought to be able to find middle-class Colombian lady of equivalent age and social status without a problem.

[Member #4244]

First off you don't give enough info. Do the guys speak Spanish? If not, and you want freebies than you are wasting time and money.

For you to say 3 guys staying 4 to 5 nights in Latin America with no Pro's, but doing no work at the dating sites is poor planning.

Forget Colombia. You will not get non pros unless you speak Spanish, and have more time than less than a week.

I'm not trying to break your balls, just letting you know how Colombia will not work for you guys unless you decide to break down, and buy a little pussy. You will love it as these girls are not the crack Putas of the USA. These for the most part are a real good time for a few bucks. To me a good time means lots of women in a party atmosphere. So if you don't want to take my advice than just go to Vegas, and get blue balls in the overpriced strip clubs there.

Absolutely correct, of course, I had assumed they spoke Spanish for some reason

[Ricker]

The only thing worse than an obnoxious gringo in Latina America, is an obnoxious gringo who thinks he knows how to act and writes sarcastic, unintelligible nonsense on a monger site. I think you are singing to the choir here. Most of the newbie dudes I have met in Latin America have been pretty cool and respectful people.

Lighten up Franciss, hahaha, a little light hearted humor is fun, breaks up the same questions over and over again, it's cool.

Most of the newbies I meet are respectful too, but we all pay our newbie dues.

[John Gault]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful reports. I have a question I could not find on my own or maybe I'm not looking in the right places.

I have two friends that want to go to South or Central America for a guys' long weekend (4-5 nights). Could you gents please suggest which city you would go to for the freebie scene and other activities? I was considering Medellin or Cartegena, but also welcome ideas outside of Colombia. My friends are in their mid-thirties.

Thanks!

First off you don't give enough info. Do the guys speak Spanish? If not, and you want freebies than you are wasting time and money.

For you to say 3 guys staying 4 to 5 nights in Latin America with no Pro's, but doing no work at the dating sites is poor planning.

Forget Colombia. You will not get non pros unless you speak Spanish, and have more time than less than a week.

I'm not trying to break your balls, just letting you know how Colombia will not work for you guys unless you decide to break down, and buy a little pussy. You will love it as these girls are not the crack Putas of the USA. These for the most part are a real good time for a few bucks. To me a good time means lots of women in a party atmosphere. So if you don't want to take my advice than just go to Vegas, and get blue balls in the overpriced strip clubs there.