Bangkok Reports

[Tomasb]

Yes, I misspoke about the Thai drivers license gender listing being only in Thai. It is also written in English and there are three gender categories but non binary is not one of them. On a Thai DL, you are either Ms. , Mrs, or Mr. With your full name following this gender description. You are not allowed to change your gender on a DL just because you had an operation. Additionally, if as a Thai you decide to run for political office, you must list your correct gender at birth, regardless of whether you have had post op surgery or whatever you think your actual gender should be. Even in the US, certain states allow you to list your gender as non binary (X) but this is not permitted in Thailand. So you basically made my point.

If what you said is accurate, that a "broad segment" of Thai society recognizes a post op as a women, then would think this would be reflected in Thai government documents and various registration requirements. After all, why not change the law? The reason is because this "broad segment" you mention is a mile wide but an inch deep. There is no popular sentiment in Thailand amongst its citizens to allow post ops or ladyboys to change their gender or be recognized as woman. And as I am sure you know, there is wide spread discrimination against Kathoeys in general in a Thailand with very limited job opportunities especially in a professional work category.

No Tomasb, you are wrong.

Thai society in general broadly considers it that way.

As to Thai drivers licenses, the birth gender on them cannot be changed at all, so they will always show as a "he".

In fact, very few countries allow birth gender to be changed on official records or documents, Canada being one of them that does allow.

Also to correct you again.

On a drivers license all pertinent information is in both Thai and English, name, age, gender.

Not knowing that fact makes me wonder if you have ever actually seen one?

[Fortunate]

If you don't mind, which condo did you stay at and how much was it?

I always do hotels but am thinking of trying condos next trip.

It's this one and I really like it. Great location and it ran me less than $50 USD per night.

https://goo.gl/maps/BnKXxKmSFfXyMhqS7

[Nyezhov]

If you don't mind, which condo did you stay at and how much was it?

I always do hotels but am thinking of trying condos next trip.

Obligatory complaint: I hate you guys who use Air be and be, especially if I am near you.

Thats why I live way the fork out near Nothanburi.

[CaliGuy33]

That 2500 was for short time and google can give you a better idea of the hotels around thermae than I can, sorry. I don't do hotels, I've got an AB&be in a condo just 5 minute walk from Nana BTS station and think it's about perfect.

If you don't mind, which condo did you stay at and how much was it?

I always do hotels but am thinking of trying condos next trip.

[WhatTheFack]

OK, fiwfans let me down. I thought I was a genius for using this but I am not. I had a bad experience with a girl that isn't with an agency.

I pay 1600 for 1 hour. On profile, it says she does 69 etc. Then when I get there, she's bluntly asks for money upfront, I pay.

After a soli shower where she briefly ssists, we get on bed that looks like it has a wet stain on one half of it. Then I can tell she has a bad attitude. She tries to put on condom after some hand tugging. She doesn't want to lie down, doesn't want me to touch her body or do DATY because she says she's on her period, doesn't want to do anything else than just immediately go for fast CBJ and then immediate missionary. During this, she is not smiling and not acting nice.

Whatever, so I finish and we're all done probably barely any longer than 15 minutes since my arrival, including shower.

She speaks pretty rudely most of the time, despite knowing no English. She walks off and does her own thing, avoiding any interaction with me. I ask her via Google translate what we are going to do, she says I can sleep by myself on the bed or go home.

I ask for a discount or to at least pay the 40 minute rate, she refuses and will not give me back anything. Some back and forth establishes that she won't do anything and just stands there looking at her phone.

In the end, she used Google translate to tell me that foreigners have lots of money, which is why she won't be returning any of it, and then I left.

She actually has 5 pages of good reviews on fiwfans and most are 10 star with photos. All photos on profile show her smiling hard, a big juxtaposition to reality.

I wonder if she just hates foreigners. Not sure. It's a pretty cold experience and the resentment and disrespect to me, when I was nothing but polite, is quite unfortunate.

I suspect that she serves Thai customers well and has huge resentment towards foreigners and can't help to try and scam one when she has the chance.

Also at one point after this short sex, she showed me that she had an ulcer on her tongue. Well, who knows what that is. Probably wise I didn't do anything further with her.

Most of the agencies on fiwfans say that payment is required first so not sure how I would have navigated this, in hindsight.

Also again, I am surprised by the quantity of good reviews and the reality I walked in to.

[KrumeLurer]

Price says 10,000 short time. How you got 6,000.

Questions I rather why pay 6000 for her when you can go down to Nana and get a really cute girl all night for 4-5 k. Or a freelancer for even less. Makes no sense to me. MAssagerepublic and smocci is sites for ripp off prices. But maybe some people have so much money that they don't care.

[CobraCommand]

Price says 10,000 short time. How you got 6,000.

Well, when I connected with her on Line, I offered 6 k as that is what I was willing to spend that evening, she accepted and I did not bother to think too much as I agreed to meet her at the Coffee shop and would have walked away if she was not who she claimed to be. And guys do you really pay what is mentioned on MR?

To be very honest, as a personal choice, I just liked the way she presented herself vs the other girls I had met and she spoke good English which worked well. Last time I had tried out a couple of Russians which sort of ended in a comedy. So was just trying to take a chance and see how this goes. And she is from Burma as I understood. Working as an English teacher or teaching assistant in BKK.

And guys I asked her about Anal, and she said yes, but I did not try it just being honest, I just mentioned it in the report so others know about it in case they find the info useful. I prefer blowjobs with CIM vs anal so the girl does the hard work and not me.

[Chan Chalupa]

Last Saturday did not have any plans and lately as other has said TF seems to have become a big unreliable and some of the regular girls have not yet returned back.

Was trying to decide if I must looking at visiting a Soapy or Nuru place or try something new. Checked a few profiles on MR, Wow since last year it looks like most of the profiles are put up by agencies and I sort of stay away from them as most of the time it's either fake or the service is just mechanical. Came across Ana - https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...ay-girlfriend. Interesting write up, So thought would ping and check, she responded quickly enough on Line and just discussed what I was looking for and monies etc.

So we had agreed to meet up at a coffee shop in front of my hotel as I wanted to be sure she is who she is before getting her to my room.

Got a message 10 minutes before 6 letting me know she has reached, quickly put on some cloths and just walked out and found her sipping on some Bubble tea at the Cafe. I was a bit surprised as I was expecting the pics to be old etc, but she looked the same. Tight figure. She waved at me while I was crossing the street and then just had some small talk. Apparently, she stays quite close, so it took her about 10 minutes to reach this place.

We came back to the room, showered together, felt her up a bit and she smiled and got on her knees for a BBBJ. Then moved on to the bedroom for an hour of bliss. Tried different positions and finally ended with a CIM.

Later got to know that she works part time and this is just a side gig.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5.

Skill: 5/5.

Service: 5/5.

BJ: 5/5.

GFE: 5/5.

Anal: Yes.

Price & Session Length: 6,000 and on time.

Repeat: Yes.

MR Link: https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...day-girlfriend.

Price says 10,000 short time. How you got 6,000.

[Paolo99]

Later got to know that she works part time and this is just a side gig.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5.

Skill: 5/5.

Service: 5/5.

BJ: 5/5.

GFE: 5/5.

Anal: Yes.

Price & Session Length: 6,000 and on time.

Repeat: Yes.

MR Link: https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...day-girlfriend.

She says on her add that she charges 10 K per hour, and doesn't want to be called just for sex and charges "only" 15 K for overnight (probably with very little sex).

Then she says she's not Thai, do you know where she comes from?

All her reviews on that site seem very fake except the first guy that said she is rude and arrogant (I don't believe the skato thing she said to discredit his review).

A lot of nonsense in her add, how did you get her for 6 K an hour including anal? (she says she won't text also).

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Last Saturday did not have any plans and lately as other has said TF seems to have become a big unreliable and some of the regular girls have not yet returned back.

Was trying to decide if I must looking at visiting a Soapy or Nuru place or try something new. Checked a few profiles on MR, Wow since last year it looks like most of the profiles are put up by agencies and I sort of stay away from them as most of the time it's either fake or the service is just mechanical. Came across Ana - https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...ay-girlfriend. Interesting write up, So thought would ping and check, she responded quickly enough on Line and just discussed what I was looking for and monies etc.

So we had agreed to meet up at a coffee shop in front of my hotel as I wanted to be sure she is who she is before getting her to my room.

Got a message 10 minutes before 6 letting me know she has reached, quickly put on some cloths and just walked out and found her sipping on some Bubble tea at the Cafe. I was a bit surprised as I was expecting the pics to be old etc, but she looked the same. Tight figure. She waved at me while I was crossing the street and then just had some small talk. Apparently, she stays quite close, so it took her about 10 minutes to reach this place.

We came back to the room, showered together, felt her up a bit and she smiled and got on her knees for a BBBJ. Then moved on to the bedroom for an hour of bliss. Tried different positions and finally ended with a CIM.

Later got to know that she works part time and this is just a side gig.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5.

Skill: 5/5.

Service: 5/5.

BJ: 5/5.

GFE: 5/5.

Anal: Yes.

Price & Session Length: 6,000 and on time.

Repeat: Yes.

MR Link: https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...day-girlfriend.

No wonder she was happy, 6000 baht is a very lucrative (and pricey) side gig for an hour.

And of note, it was a huge discount from her quoted 12,000 baht / US $355 per hour rate.

Care to advise how difficult it was for you to achieve that?

Lastly, she says on MR that she is not Thai, what nationality is she?

Interestingly she proudly announces she wants chemistry before intimacy, but literally you walked in, met her, finished a coffee and chat, then you went and fucked.

So funny, as not much intimacy time there. LOL.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

The "ones" that agree are also lady boys or their friends or relatives. They are genetically men and no operation can change that regardless of what they believe. If what you say was accurate, then drivers licenses in Thailand would reflect their new after operation gender. It does not and if you really want to know their gender, just check their drivers license. Of course, you will have to read Thai but no worries your hotel reception can tell you.

No Tomasb, you are wrong.

Thai society in general broadly considers it that way.

As to Thai drivers licenses, the birth gender on them cannot be changed at all, so they will always show as a "he".

In fact, very few countries allow birth gender to be changed on official records or documents, Canada being one of them that does allow.

Also to correct you again.

On a drivers license all pertinent information is in both Thai and English, name, age, gender.

Not knowing that fact makes me wonder if you have ever actually seen one?

[ThaiGoodTimes]

How do you know that particular one was a post op?

Anyway, you seem to be very experienced in that matter, so I won't argue with you, I know nothing about them.

I don't know if that particular one was, or wasn't a post-op. I was just saying that post-ops nearly all consider themselves a "she", as does a lot of Thai society. So in their mindset and reality, they are not telling you a lie, or even misleading you.

[HorseTrader]

The "ones" that agree are also lady boys or their friends or relatives. They are genetically men and no operation can change that regardless of what they believe. If what you say was accurate, then drivers licenses in Thailand would reflect their new after operation gender. It does not and if you really want to know their gender, just check their drivers license. Of course, you will have to read Thai but no worries your hotel reception can tell you.

Thai ID cards have a mix of English and Thai. English includes birthdate and either Mrs, Miss, or Mr.

[Fortunate]

Thanks for input some info about thermae, planning to travel BKK this end of the month, it's been almost 3 years have not been there, valued info is very helpful. By the way the amount BHT 2500 is for short time or long time? By the way, what is the hotel near to Thermae? I normally stay in Double tree by Hilton but is in sukumvit soi 2 quite far from Thermae but of coarse nearer to nana.

Thanks.

That 2500 was for short time and google can give you a better idea of the hotels around thermae than I can, sorry. I don't do hotels, I've got an AB&be in a condo just 5 minute walk from Nana BTS station and think it's about perfect.

[Fortunate]

On the 5th day I spent hours wandering around in the heat. What Pho is amazing as it's cracked up to be but I still have a bruise from the foot rub, for what that is worth. By the time I was done with that I was tried. A quick 800 bht blowjob from a woman who was worth every penny at the BJ bar just past Lolitas. I've already forgotten the name but for a tired blow on the way to crash for the night it was perfect.

On the 6th night I went to Poseidon, just to try it out. It is easy to get to via the BTS and MRT, BTW. If you haven't yet figured out how to use the airconditioned public transport around here (forget about the buses) get on that. They are easy, cheap, and offer great opportunities to observe cross cultural differences and similarities with home. Wherever home is.

Poseidon is a huge complex, twelve stories or more from the outside. I was hoping to see the fabled fish bowl or maybe hang at the bar for a bit but when I walked in the door I was immediately greeted by a very polite staff lady and lead to a standard line up with about 30 women. They all had a letter / number on their tags and the details of that ID suggested their prices. Anyone with just a number was in the lower price tears and those with a letter and number combo where in the higher price levels. So A36 would cost more than 36.

I saw a woman with an incredible face and skinny body in the numbers only range and was happy to pay 3800 BHT for 90 minutes. Ham gave me a bath, wonderful uncovered BJ, and covered PIV as long as I liked in as many positions as I wanted. When I finished she said there was time left for a massage, and away she went rubbing away. The phone in the room rang for the 10 minute warning and I left happy.

Today I'm packing up and headed to Pattaya for four or five days before coming back to Bangkok for my final two nights and then back to the US. Great trip so far and, again, thank to all those who posted info filled reports for me to learn from.