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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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I did read your post and the one you replying to. I do not think you are an "ist" brother so chill. But I have a problem with others identifying a particular group at the visitors causing the "problems" in a location. Example:
I will state again, it is not a code. It is explicit. And like I said before I know what time it is. And I know what type of people make statements like the above. Nypher What is a passport boy? And how did you identify and know they are the cause of the problems you are making reference to?
Once again I ask you who are the Passport Bros or Passport Boys? How do you identify them? And why does their presence and actions affect you at all?
I can speak personally on Sosua experiences. I don't have to watch videos about it. My visits there are not affected by anyone. I have a good time in the places that work for me with the girls that work for me. I see lots of things there that are really sad: like ugly old white guys that are taking a young girl back to the hotel and I really fell sorry for the girl that she has to put herself through that to get money. But I did not create the system. It is what is is. But that "old white guy" is not affecting me at all.
If you ask 10 different people to give a definition what a Passport Bro is chances are you will get 10 different explanations.
To me, I thought it's the new wave of of men from the hip hop community that started travel to developing countries during the pandemic that fall under that label.
The challenge comes along with many people like to follow what they think is popular and trendy at the time. Different people who travel overseas separate themselves into subcategories, there are the Expats, Digital Nomads, Backpackers, etc but lately when overseas drama hits social media of guys acting a fool, take a look at the hashtags attached to the video.
As for how their presence and actions effect me?
When chicas start talking in dollars rather than their local currency.
When chicas want to be paid up front because the previous guy who looks like me fucked her over.
When vendors think they can upcharge me on something because the previous gringos who look like me was being reckless with money.
When clubs tell me I can't come in unless I buy a bottle or table service.
When the younger girls and touts approaching me with "what's up my and* instead of the usual "hola mi amor", or "my friend, my friend".
When certain individuals decide to walk off from the bill at the beach and the guy comes and give me their bill expecting me to pay just because I had the cabana next to them and they asked me a few questions about the nightlife and I told them where to go.
That's just a fraction of it post pandemic. I've learned and adjusted where to spend the majority of my time with limited interactions so I don't get mixed into the BS.
But since you're experienced in Sosua do you remember when Classico's started Bottle service and how all that began?
How about Playa Sosua at the spot with the green Presidente umbrellas? Ever ate there and looked at your bill and wonder why they added things to it that you never ordered?
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Nypher
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Most girls you meet on the street or in the clubs will know where the love motels are.
The mostly known one is.
HOTEL EL VIAJERO CENTRO.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mrd1ekRD6E9ycgK6A?g_st=ic
The only sex shop I can recall is when I left Monkey Bar and started walking towards the clocktower. It's on that same street as Monkey Bar before reaching Alquimico but I can't remember the name.
There's another in Bocagrande across from the Intercontinental Shopping mall.
Thank you. I do appreciate it.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SouthernOcean
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I am staying in Central. Could you tell me if there are some nice Love motels inside the wall. Also I read about a new ED cream that is supposed to work in about 10 minutes. Have you heard of it and is it available there? And lastly, which is the best sex toy shop, inside the wall if possible.
Most girls you meet on the street or in the clubs will know where the love motels are.
The mostly known one is.
HOTEL EL VIAJERO CENTRO.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mrd1ekRD6E9ycgK6A?g_st=ic
The only sex shop I can recall is when I left Monkey Bar and started walking towards the clocktower. It's on that same street as Monkey Bar before reaching Alquimico but I can't remember the name.
There's another in Bocagrande across from the Intercontinental Shopping mall.
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Passport Boys or Passport Bros which is it?
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Sangnyc21
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Well I was replying to a post so maybe you coulda read that first?
I did read your post and the one you replying to. I do not think you are an "ist" brother so chill. But I have a problem with others identifying a particular group at the visitors causing the "problems" in a location. Example:
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Nypher
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None of those are any better. You can thank those Passport Boys for that. Inflation, Medellin is out of control with Scope, Sosua girls are talking in dollars and overweight walking like pigeons, and Rio is still a little iffy. I would say just avoid any area that the majority of those YouTubers are going in mass.
I will state again, it is not a code. It is explicit. And like I said before I know what time it is. And I know what type of people make statements like the above. Nypher What is a passport boy? And how did you identify and know they are the cause of the problems you are making reference to?
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Nypher
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If someone don't control their own image, someone else will control it for them and unfortunately mostly it's usually the worst examples of us that foreigners set as the default baseline for all of us.
In the video the girl said out who the Chicas mostly have a problem with. But to be fair before this whole Passport Bros nonsense I could hop on YouTube and the drama was white guys in Thailand fighting with Ladyboys on walking street and that shit was funny. Now this whole passport bro wave comes and look at the stuff coming out of Sosua, Medellin, Cartegena, and now Thailand.
The speed of how Cartagena got nicknamed Sosua 2. 0 pretty much self explanatory when watching the drama coming out of there on social media.
Once again I ask you who are the Passport Bros or Passport Boys? How do you identify them? And why does their presence and actions affect you at all?
I can speak personally on Sosua experiences. I don't have to watch videos about it. My visits there are not affected by anyone. I have a good time in the places that work for me with the girls that work for me. I see lots of things there that are really sad: like ugly old white guys that are taking a young girl back to the hotel and I really fell sorry for the girl that she has to put herself through that to get money. But I did not create the system. It is what is is. But that "old white guy" is not affecting me at all.
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There are levels to it
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.
Real relationships have no money involved?
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Sangnyc21
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You do know that Latin culture the man is expected to take the financial responsibility right?? So why would it be different if you go to their country and want a relationship with their women??.
Yeah you fall for that bullshit if you want to. I have had countless normal girlfriends all over Latin America in the past over 20 years and never had to assume any financial responsibility. If you are talking about paying when we go on trips or out to eat then sure. If you are talking about paying somebody's rent or bills then hell no. That sounds like the sin sot dowry BS they get dumb foreigners to believe in Thailand. You better learn to tell those broads to kick rocks when they try to pull that crap on you.
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ED cream and Love motels
I am staying in Central. Could you tell me if there are some nice Love motels inside the wall. Also I read about a new ED cream that is supposed to work in about 10 minutes. Have you heard of it and is it available there? And lastly, which is the best sex toy shop, inside the wall if possible.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? DO NOT SPEND THE NIGHT WITH A PROSTITUTE, PERIOD. DO YOUR BUSINESS, THEN KICK THE HAWKER OUT.
If you need a girlfriend, you want affection, love, someone to spend the night with, someone to go out to dinner with, then get your heads out of your asses, man the f up, brush your teeth and wear some deodorant to go on a goddamn date for f' sake with a real non-pro woman. You won't accomplish it in a week. Treat women with respect and don't assume they all fuck for money or all only care about your dollar, don't expect pussy on the first night, learn their culture, etc. Bottom line, stop trying to domesticate prostitutes, and then you wonder why you got taken advantage of. It's her job to seduce you and empty your pocket, rob you if she can. But a real woman who's curious about dating a foreigner, maybe looking to escape poverty, or learn English, you'd be surprised on what real affection feels like from a non-working girl latin american woman. I can understand many don't have the time for it, but draw a line and stop the delusions with the p4 p girls.
Not all these girls are the same Jajaj, but then again not all mongers are the same. I used to travel with a guy who every night he wants a different girl and never wanted to repeat with a girl. But, then every night he had some drama with the girl because he's going through the same repetitive steps of getting to know her and if she's good in the bed. My main girl and I found it entertaining as we would sit and watch him pick and make guesses on how long he would stay with her before a problem occurs causing her to leave.
But most mongers know if the girl looks like someone you would never introduce to friends, family or coworkers without feeling embarrassed then put her ass out after business is done. Then there are the discreet girls who dresses modestly and no one would ever think she's selling the box except when we see the type of gringo she's with and it's an automatic thought of "yeah, he's paying bank for that box". Problem is these guys try to grab the hourly street walkers and turn her into long term girls when they could have went and got the long term girl from the start.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JayWonEm
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I would be OK giving the doorman a $20 to bring a girl in, or paying a house fee for a second guest. It's not (entirely) about the money. I would much rather stay in a luxury hotel with a nice pool on the beach than a BNB in the middle of town with whatever amenities the owner provides. What I don't want is to have a girl kicked out based on a no-visitor policy, which would be embarrassing and inconvenient for both of us, and totally fuck up a good night.
Any experience with girls with incalls? I see a lot of ads for girls in Bocagrande.
I know AirBBs condos with all the the luxury stuff, private jacuzzi, great balcony views and security in El Laguito but price starts at $150 a night and needs to be booked months in advance especially if it's an American holiday weekend.
If it's not about the money then rent an additional place in Centro where you can have your after hours fun and still keep your luxury hotel room.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.
If someone don't control their own image, someone else will control it for them and unfortunately mostly it's usually the worst examples of us that foreigners set as the default baseline for all of us.
In the video the girl said out who the Chicas mostly have a problem with. But to be fair before this whole Passport Bros nonsense I could hop on YouTube and the drama was white guys in Thailand fighting with Ladyboys on walking street and that shit was funny. Now this whole passport bro wave comes and look at the stuff coming out of Sosua, Medellin, Cartegena, and now Thailand.
The speed of how Cartagena got nicknamed Sosua 2. 0 pretty much self explanatory when watching the drama coming out of there on social media.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.
You do know that Latin culture the man is expected to take the financial responsibility right??
So why would it be different if you go to their country and want a relationship with their women??
My first GF was a Colombian in NY. She couldn't speak much English. And it simply doesn't work after a while. Yea the first few months to a year is great. But once it's time to settle down it don't work if you can't speak one language. And this was also before google translate.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.
Well I was replying to a post so maybe you coulda read that first?
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Having a passport does not free your mind of bias.
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by SteelDh
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I think there is a lot of jealousy and very coded language being used to scapegoat a certain demographic of people.
Not a code. Very explicit language that is being used to single out a group of people. Huge group of individuals visiting the area. And look what is pointed out:
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Sangnyc21
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Its not just blacks. It's all the young to middle age people who think they're hot shots for a weekend with their usd.
Not just the blacks eh? But that is the only group specifically mentioned. I know what time it is.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Sangnyc21
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If one wants a real relationship it's not impossible. But here's the first flag. If you still find yourself using google translate with your "novia" then chances are it's not a real relationship.
I beg to differ. I did not always speak Spanish yet I had real relationships; and that was before google translate existed. The first flag is if you are giving her money; THEN it is not a real relationship. After that add does she have a job or daily routine other than going out to bars and discos.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by OldSchool318
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"This is nothing new, simps will be simps and the girls are just taking advantage. Desperate dudes coming from home with no baddie experience and only dated hot girls on their screens using their hands, and now once live in Col or DR and can pay for it mofos don't know how to act LMAO. I'm sick of it, we're all sick of it. And the bad rep of blacks or weekend warriors will continue to deteriorate in Col unfortunately. Why is this complicated? Do not spend the night with a prostitute, period. Do your business, then kick the hawker out."
I don't fully agree with this. I have had many a great friendship, some sort of relation with sex workers.
Many have been very kind to me, and were very honest with me. However, you are also right in the fact that the end of the day. They still looking for $$$ and will do what is best for them.
I'll let them spend the night and even go eat and do other things with them if we vibe well, but it's not love. And I tell them up front I will treat them based on how they act. Maybe I have been lucky as I never really had a major issue with any of them. Many more great times than anything bad. But, I certainly ain't trying to turn them into house wives.
I am with you. I have had several good relationships, and still have a few. I am also older and I don't think I am going to be dating any hot 20-somethings any time soon, no matter how much I clean up. When I go down there it is very likely I will want a companion for meals, activities, and as a companion to show me the city. If things go well I will probably do one or more overnights. The idea that I would fuck them and kick them out because that's what somebody else thinks I should do is, well, kind of silly.
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