Medellin Reports

**DmeHcg** · 03-02-13 15:51

Gents

II ran into your website right before a trip to Medellíand and I must say you guys where life savers. I love to travel and have a good time and let me say you fellas saved my trip. I never really comment I just read because I find stories at times humorous as well as educational at times for next trip, but I figured why not contribute and also had some questions. I'll keep it as short as possible.

AA coworker married this paisa he met while on vacation in Panama years go. He finally brought her over to NY to live with him after being married over a year. Once I met her I asked if she had any single friends or family. She suggested a friend of the family that was recently divorced. I figured OK np divorced a child maybe friend is stable with good head on shoulders, I said why not what's the harm. Started talking to her for months. Simple, pretty, smart, hard worker makes good money in sales in Medellíand. After a while I noticed that everything had to do with high end clothes, top quality everything which I'm all for that as well. No she never asked me for money and I never sent anything. It's they things she would tell me and things she wanted seemed a little bit unreasonable considering her budget, single mom what she paid from are rent etc. So anyway I made plans to go meet her. I'll be honest two weeks before I left I was just turned off by her all together but I said whatever still going. Found your website then started making backup plans just in case things didn't work out. I get there she picks me up we talk all the way back to her town of laureles and I stayed at hotel nearby cause I didn't want to cause issues with her and kids father. She was better looking in person. She took me around to all these restaurants and I gladly paid. Especially since its so cheap there compare to NYC prices and restaurants. Still after going out with her and talking etc I wasn't feeling the spark and definitely not feeling the work I would have to put in to get her in bed. But I said I would make best of it. She takes me to meet her family. I meet her sister which was smoking hot BTW, her two brothers and mom. They all live in a low income neighborhood in the same apt. So I started making sense of things. I'll be honest after seeing where they live and how nice they where and welcoming I was completely turned off by her. How can you spend all this money on rent and buying all these expensive things when your family is living borderline poor and you're trying to be rich high society. More to story but I'll leave it there

Anyway I asked to be brought back to hotel, where I jumped on wifi and looked at Google maps casa list and based on reviews I decided on trying energy. When I got there saw lineup and almost lost my mind, I couldn't remember names and didn't know who I wanted. Some tens. 7s and 6s. After all few beers made my selection and had this beautiful dark skin 10. Had a great time and was shocked it was so cheap at the end like you all mentioned. From their went to get some lunch and enjoyed walking around the area. A couple days later I got away and told girl I went to visit I wasn't feeling well and I was going to stay in and decided to try new life as recommended by you fellas and a friend. Got their all 7s and under. Grabbed Grabbed 7 did my duties went to pay and I was like really? Unreal paid same amount I would pay for lunch at a pub midweek. Day after I had to go back and never spoke to girl again. You guys definitely saved my trip from being a waste to already planning to go back ASAP.

Had Had couple of questions before cause I'm a little confused. What's the difference between Medellíand plaza hotel and mansion. Also if mansion is a hotel they way it sounds is that pros work there or just hang out there all day waiting for someone to bring them to room? If so what does that cost? I'm also a night person what the best way to get a pro at night or is strip club only way since casas close at night? Is it really worth going to strip clubs, I ask cause casas just make more sense. Less money and less headache.

Well that's it for now gents thanks again. Sorry post is sloppy but I'm on my cell.

**SavePros321** · 03-02-13 11:01

Originally Posted by Dashing Don [View Original Post]

Halfway through the meal, the kid sister hit me with a bombshell: she wanted to work at the Mansion, and would I make the intro at the office! This was totally unexpected on my part. Now, I'm also beginning to question the moral foundation of Maria, the 'normal girl' I met on Cupid. Anyways, back we went to the Mansion where I introduced the kid sister to Alexa, the office manager. Apparently, girls that want to work at the Mansion have to go to a website and speak to another girl to get permission or something like that. As neither of these two girls had their cedulas with them, they couldn't even hang out at the Mansion never mind work there. Maria promptly hit me up for about $25us taxi fare as she was supposed to go home, get her I'd, and come back to the Mansion that night to see me. I never heard from her again.

Lesson learned. This cured me of all thoughts of 'normal' girls for this trip anyway. The Mansion being the Mansion, there are always hot hos hanging around willing to take care of all that leche and within a few hours it was just another monger story. It was proof of what some of the other mongers were saying to the effect that the line between a normal girl and a working girl in Medellin is a thin one, and can shift quickly.

Good story and thanks for sharing. More proof (for the rest of us) that if you are not in town for more than two weeks, it's best to just stick with the pros.

In hindsight, since the essentially turned to you for recruitment at the mansion, I would have made them both go home and get their cedulas, fucked them both for free (your commission), THEN introduced them to Alexa, lol!

**Vitrea** · 03-02-13 07:29

Originally Posted by BlueCowboy [View Original Post]

I have passed by Loutron a few times, although not within the last year or so. Girls are not ugly but never seen a stunner either. And never went with any. Back then it was 200K for a pop, and if I am laying down 200 for 45-60 minutes it better be something really special. And never saw nothing special there.

Thanks for the attempt. I'm giving up. I'm way too picky. Been here for almost a month now and have not been with a single pro. Simply haven't seen a single one that interested me.

I have never understood the attraction of Medellin as a monger destination honestly. I am here for work, but love would to do some p4p if I ever saw a prepago below 200K that was worth doing. I appreciate you guys enjoy Medellíand for prepagos, no disrespect meant. Taste varies.

I can totally see your perspective but it would be a crime for you to not score a hottie in MDE. I am also picky so I feel your frustration. Have you tried the clubs like Fase Dos and La Isla? If you do not find what you like one day, go back there again. I am confident you will find atleast one stunner. On that note, define stunner? Age preference? Natural or man made OK?

Have you scored with non pros, colleagues at clubs etc.

Again, if you want top quality you do have to work a bit in MDE.

**BlueCowboy** · 03-02-13 06:47

Greetings everyone,

I'm going to save everyone some time here.

BlueCowboy would like everyone to know...

1. That he is "from Europe ... blond and blue eyed ... heading into my late 30's, but still look and party like a 28 year old", and that he can "speak English and Spanish".

2. That Medellin "bores the shit" out of him.

3. That Medellin is "one of the most racist places" he knows.

4. That he has "never understood the attraction of Medellin as a monger destination".

5. That in Medellin"all of the hookers are ugly" and that "95% of all the hookers are fat".

6. That he wouldn't be caught dead in the company of a Columbia working girl.

7. That the girls hanging out at the Mansion are in his opinion "hardly a girl over a 5 between them. Some are straight 1's or 0's."

8. That he "can't wait to get the hell out of here".

Thanks,

Jackson

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Here are his original comments for those who are interested:

I find myself completely disagreeing with you, Don. I can't come up with anywhere else in the 80+ countries I have visited where there is a thicker line between a pro and a non-pro. I can't come up with many if any places where good looking normal girls are more afraid to hit up a conversation with a gringo or foreigner than in Medellíand. Because they're all seen as hookers if they talk to a foreigner.

As for the Mansion, I know I am getting into thin water these days with my comments, but I find the idea of that place extremely unappealing. Here you have the same 20-30 girls doing rounds between gringos, and I have seen just about all of them on facebook, and in my opinion there's hardly a girl over a 5 between them. Some are straight 1's or 0's. I haven't seen one yet that I would do for free. And most would have to pay me big money to have sex with them.

This is why Medellíand bores the shit out of me. The hookers are ugly (except for the models who charge 500k and up for a few hours, but I can have girls like that at those prices in New York or Paris) and the non-pro hotties won't talk to you even if you're young and speak fluent Spanish. You might be able to slip them your number, but they're not going to call. If you succeeed in getting theirs, you'll be calling and texting for days if not weeks to get a date. Because the non-pros treat you like a Colombian more or less, that is with a lack of interest on purpose and so much patience that it's unbelievable. That's the style here: Keep the man hunting and calling. They like to keep you calling and chatting them up on facebook for a few weeks before they'll go out with you on a first date. Most tourists don't have that time. Everytime I have 2-3 days left in Medellin I have 15 girls saying the same on the phone or on facebook: "Aii ya te vas? '. Are you leaving already? Yeah, you god damn right I'm leaving.

I'm talking about beautiful girls. They're my interest. I'm not into sticking my thing in anything that moves. For that kind of pleasure, Medellin is perfect. The mansion and loads of casas. No worries. For 8's and 9's and 10's when it comes to both prepagos and non-pros, I can think of at least 50 countries I'd have more fun in.

I do love Medellíand for what it is. But it's one of the most racist places I know. Towards black people and stereotypical light skinned foreigners.

Damn, example in hand, it's Friday night and I was at Parque Lleras with a friend. There were 500 hot girls there but I walked home just past midnight because it's so freaking tedious trying to talk them up. They treat a well dressed, well-speaking, well-manored foreigner about 50 times worse than a scumbag Colombian with tatoos all over the body and scars all over his face. Go to Brazil, Costa Rica, Cuba, DR, even Ecuador and girls go out to meet guys. In Colombia girls mainly go out to pump up their self esteem, that is to enjoy having guys look at them, and then flip them the finger and go home alone. Or give their number to two or three guys so they can keep pumping up their self esteem for a few weeks keeping those guys calling and texting them and telling them they're beautiful.

I have almost a month left here, and honestly can't wait to get the hell out of here. I'd rather be mongering in Sweden. Or Alaska. There is no place on earth with so many stuck up full of themselves drop dead gorgeous women. And that's why I can't wait to leave, because there's nothing more frustrating then seeing so many sexy women knowing you can't do any of them. Sure, maybe if you live here and have months to try and impress them.

Now I do expect at some point that someone will want to go nuts on me with my opinions on Medellíand.

Originally Posted by Dashing Don [View Original Post]

The Mansion being the Mansion, there are always hot hos hanging around willing to take care of all that leche and within a few hours it was just another monger story. It was proof of what some of the other mongers were saying to the effect that the line between a normal girl and a working girl in Medellin is a thin one, and can shift quickly.

**Dashing Don** · 03-02-13 03:13

Originally Posted by BlueCowboy [View Original Post]

Always wasted too much time on non-pros, I am up for some pros now.

Thats a good one! I'll tell you why.

I stayed at the Mansion about 2 weeks ago after an absence of several years. Still the same spot; a great place to have fun, meet the hos and fellow mongers. However, I had just come back from a trip to the Phils where banging normal girls is the norm, and as I hadn't allowed enough time for the 'Philippine high' to dissipate, I wasn't 100% up for the hos. So I went on Colombian Cupid and made contact with a local Medellin girl.

I called the Cupid girl, Maria, and arranged for her to come to the Mansion whereupon we would go to lunch and see what would happen. She shows up, but with her kid sister in tow. Maria is 25yo and gorgeous. Truly, I have never seen girls as beautiful anywhere in the world as Medellin. The sister is 20yo but not as pretty. We all piled into a taxi and went to a restaurant at Parque lleras. My Spanish is decent so we ate and chatted and had a nice conversation. I must say that although I was very attracted to this Cupid girl, Maria, her vibes were wrong. A little hard maybe. I tried to stop drawing comparisons to the Phils girls who are very humble but it was hard.

Halfway through the meal, the kid sister hit me with a bombshell: she wanted to work at the Mansion, and would I make the intro at the office! This was totally unexpected on my part. Now, I'm also beginning to question the moral foundation of Maria, the 'normal girl' I met on Cupid. Anyways, back we went to the Mansion where I introduced the kid sister to Alexa, the office manager. Apparently, girls that want to work at the Mansion have to go to a website and speak to another girl to get permission or something like that. As neither of these two girls had their cedulas with them, they couldn't even hang out at the Mansion never mind work there. Maria promptly hit me up for about $25us taxi fare as she was supposed to go home, get her I'd, and come back to the Mansion that night to see me. I never heard from her again.

Lesson learned. This cured me of all thoughts of 'normal' girls for this trip anyway. The Mansion being the Mansion, there are always hot hos hanging around willing to take care of all that leche and within a few hours it was just another monger story. It was proof of what some of the other mongers were saying to the effect that the line between a normal girl and a working girl in Medellin is a thin one, and can shift quickly.

**BlueCowboy** · 03-02-13 01:00

I have passed by Loutron a few times, although not within the last year or so. Girls are not ugly but never seen a stunner either. And never went with any. Back then it was 200K for a pop, and if I am laying down 200 for 45-60 minutes it better be something really special. And never saw nothing special there.

Thanks for the attempt. I'm giving up. I'm way too picky. Been here for almost a month now and have not been with a single pro. Simply haven't seen a single one that interested me.

I have never understood the attraction of Medellin as a monger destination honestly. I am here for work, but love would to do some p4p if I ever saw a prepago below 200K that was worth doing. I appreciate you guys enjoy Medellín for prepagos, no disrespect meant. Taste varies.

Originally Posted by Parcero [View Original Post]

Loutron has what you want, the only problem is that you have to pay for it.

**Vitrea** · 03-01-13 21:49

Originally Posted by Parcero [View Original Post]

Loutron has what you want, the only problem is that you have to pay for it.

I agree that Lutron pricing structure is a bit over the top. During my two visits in December, I did not find any that justified it. I had better luck at Energy in finding a good balance between looks, service and price. I must caution that I tend to lean away from silicone and favor a more natural look. The girls at Lutron are clearly more "done up", been in business for a while (as they worked their way up to working at Lutron) and might actually make it more appealing to some of you. The ambiance at Lutron is hard to beat though.

**Parcero** · 03-01-13 12:44

Originally Posted by BlueCowboy [View Original Post]

Always wasted too much time on non-pros, I am up for some pros now.

Can anybody recommend some good casas or clubs (daytime or night) with either a steady flow of slim girls or fake-tittied hotties?

The 10-15 times during the last years that I have stepped into a casa (and most clubs) it has been like 90% dull, medium-far girls. I'm not paying for that.

There are so many casas and clubs here, there must be one or some tat specialized in either colegiala-type chics or silicone girls. It's just a 10 year education and a 1 million peso axi bill to start the footwork myself from here.

Loutron has what you want, the only problem is that you have to pay for it.

**Legal Tender** · 03-01-13 07:18

Originally Posted by Senor G [View Original Post]

It seems pretty evident you and the poster of inaccurate information, Hanshin Backdoor Baka, (at least I think that was his name, as I am to lazy this evening to read back to find out for certain) are friends based on your post, so you feel a need to come to his rescue, only to post inaccurate information yourself, which is pretty hilarious, as it is quite evident that you both have reading comprehension disorders. Please, if you would be so kind, show me where I stated I was there for these particular girls that a reputable poster like Bbrocs referred to in his post referencing this girls being turned away by immigration in Cancun? Your kindness in doing so will be greatly appreciated.

Only good energy!

Look, none of us here are mind readers. Unfortunately, occasionally we find an impolite post. This whole issue is not rocket science. First, as exhibit "A" is the typical Paisa prepago. Beautiful, exy, and has no thought past the moment in time in which she finds herself. She presents herself in a very controlled environment. She is completely unprepared. She hasn't even thought about passport control.

On the Yucatan the sex trade is highly regulated. For example in Playa Del Carmen there's Chilly Willys but that's about it. Couple that with the fact that the Paisa is the top drawer P4P provider in many parts of South America and beyond, and a popular tourist destination, and that the Mexicans don't want a lot of Colombian sex workers disrupting the status quo.

The girl looks like a sex worker, she may well be turned away, especially if she can't demonstrate that she looks like she ought to be there. We've all see what I'm talking about all over Medellin.

The word ought to be that maybe they'll be admitted and maybe they won't. Vitrea's recent post sounds like he's given this some thought, and ought to be followed by anone who's considering expending the time and resources to meet a Paisa in Mexico.

This is a meaningful discussion. Perhaps we should consider a sub category on the point of entry issues in Mexico.

Hey,"Only Good Energy" is my line, and I mean it.

**Markinno** · 03-01-13 00:40

Senor G,

Alhtough I know some of the parties that were turned away I don't know all of the details. Anyone can pick apart a post that someone makes (like yours that said you were there. Were you the one waiting for the girls that were turned away). Hanshin gave an opinion on where he thought the problem was from his perspective. Maybe right, maybe wrong. But he is a player, has the jack, goes to Medellin every couple of months and flys girls into Cancun. I respect your right to your opinions, but calling bullshit for a member about his veracity when you have a total of 8 posts is BULLSHIT!

P. S. Don't hold back as I have my flame proof underwear on.

**Almotu** · 02-28-13 18:22

Originally Posted by Jinxx [View Original Post]

I have no experience trying to take a colombiana to mexico but I wonder how or why they even give a f*ck what your relationship is with your travel companion. What was the point of changing the law to say that ALL colombian passport holders no longer need a visa to travel to mexico if they're going to ask a bunch of personal questions at the airport and pick and choose who can get in and who can't?

If they tried to grill me at the airport I'd tell them here's my passport, here's my round trip ticket, and that's all you need to f*cking know. What f*cking difference does it make if she's my friend / f*ckbuddy / wife?

The chicas were flying in by themselves, the john(s) were not with them.

**SlamCity7777** · 02-28-13 11:56

Originally Posted by Vitrea [View Original Post]

HB69, you hit the nail on the head. I agree with you completely. The examples of troubles are more of outliers than the norm, which is still very good information. Since the change in immigration law (from CO to MX) , I met working girls in Mexico that came from Colombia.

If I were to do it though, (and I have plans for this) I would fly the Colombian novias to less well known destinations with almost zero local talent such as Honduras or to places that has talent that is not my type such as Nicaragua. These countries have equally good beaches if not better than Cancun and cheaper.

The take home message from all the reports in the last three days sounds like

1) Don't sponsor a group of girls.

2) Have her travel solo with a good background story of what she does for a living to afford a vacation to a foreign destination.

3) She should dress well and look like she has money and can afford a trip.

4) Book a room under her name in a nice hotel. Have her carry the proof.

5) confirmed return ticket within the next week to 10 days. Have her carry the proof.

6) If you travel with the girl, definitely don't have more than one girl with you. .

Customs and border patrol agents of all countries can be unpredictable. On a side note, the CBP agent in Miami grilled me on my way back from MDE in December. She wanted to know why I was traveling solo! WTF? She said it is highly "unusual". I said none of my friends wanted to go because they were too scared of CO. I said it was beautiful, safer than many countries I have been and she should try it some day.

This importing of girls reminds me of a crap reality story I heard on one of my ex-GF shows.

It was a modeling competition; they took the girls to Japan for some challenge / elimination junk. When they arrive the customs ask simple basic questions like "Work or Vacation" that NONE of the girls can get right because 1) they are women 2) they are models so extra stupid 3) they are women! Hahaha. The Japanese custom agents take a look at 5-8 tall beautiful model level hot women coming to Japan with conflicting stories. Prostitutes!

The girls get caught up in customs for a few days and it's a shit show!

The similarities are shocking between this show and what happened to the original poster yes?"What is your reason for going to Mexico?" the chica reply "I'm going to suck some old guys dick in exchange for some grocery money and this vaction! How amazing is that!" Looking at her passport The Agent "Fail! Back you go puta"jjajajjajja

**BlueCowboy** · 02-28-13 00:57

Always wasted too much time on non-pros, I am up for some pros now.

Can anybody recommend some good casas or clubs (daytime or night) with either a steady flow of slim girls or fake-tittied hotties?

The 10-15 times during the last years that I have stepped into a casa (and most clubs) it has been like 90% dull, medium-far girls. I'm not paying for that.

There are so many casas and clubs here, there must be one or some tat specialized in either colegiala-type chics or silicone girls. It's just a 10 year education and a 1 million peso axi bill to start the footwork myself from here.

**Hasideas Tao** · 02-27-13 23:53

Most of them are totally dead in spite of all the noise the guys out front are making.

However conjetas was actually very lively at 5pm with some good looking women and a constant flow of dancers. Nice.

Line up at Aiffe was also pretty good. Overall quality seems a little better than my last visit.

Anyone been to Zandaly lately? I usually do not venture to that side of Oriental for casas.

**FruitNinja** · 02-27-13 00:02

Originally Posted by Vitrea [View Original Post]

Customs and border patrol agents of all countries can be unpredictable. On a side note, the CBP agent in Miami grilled me on my way back from MDE in December. She wanted to know why I was traveling solo! WTF? She said it is highly "unusual". I said none of my friends wanted to go because they were too scared of CO. I said it was beautiful, safer than many countries I have been and she should try it some day.

I think she might have been a little out of line with that questioning. What business is it of hers if you travel alone or with friends. And how does she see that as "unusual?" Evry time I've been there it's been with a group traveling separately. And a whole bunch of guys on the plane flying solo. I think they are getting to big in the pants.