General Info

[Horny Harry]

I've found that guys in general are reluctant to be the first one to start a session in public areas, but once someone does others join in. And, the other ladies look for guys watching as they can easily be turned into clients.

So, rather than waiting in vain for something to happen, be the one to start making it happen!

I had a great time in Sharks yesterday! I don't know if yesterday's line up is representative of the usual, but I saw many sexy ladies. In the beginning I had a problem controlling my hard-on underneath my bathrobe, as I was soooo horny, hehehe! (hence my nickname!)

Had sex with one girl in the Kino, but as Banana Boi said, most only wanted to go to the rooms. A bit strange this prudish attitude towards public sex, especially in an FKK club where girls are walking around totally naked, but hey I guess that's the way it is! .

Can't wait for summer to come, so at least I can get some action outside in the garden.

[ShoesAndSocks]

I was a bit disappointed. There was nobody in the Kino area

I've found that guys in general are reluctant to be the first one to start a session in public areas, but once someone does others join in. And, the other ladies look for guys watching as they can easily be turned into clients.

So, rather than waiting in vain for something to happen, be the one to start making it happen!

[Ilink]

In any case, as Capt Dan pointed out, this is all fantasy talk as American girls generally have no authorization to work in Europe.

It is possible for some by obtaining passport through countries where parents or even grand parents were citizens of eg Italy, Ireland. Given the number of such descendants in USA could generate a sizeable number.

[Horny Harry]

Thanks for the info BB!

Looks like I'll have to give Sharks a try then, probably tonight.

I'm quite new to this whole FKK business so I'll give it a try. So far I've only gone to Samya, but that was as it turned out on the wrong day of the week / year (last Monday) and I was a bit disappointed. There was nobody in the Kino area, but judging by the roles of paper towels there, I assumed that quite a bit of sex also takes place in the Kino areas of FKK clubs in general.

I did manage to read through quite a bit, but there are literally hundreds of pages on Giessen, Sharks, Oase and general info. It probably takes a while to get used to, but I find it a bit confusing that you have to read everything bottom up, instead of the normal way of top to bottom.

[The Cane]

They explained to me that they actually make more in NRW than they were making in Hessen on account of more customers. At the time, the lower prices attracted more men when they were struggling to find clients down in Hessen at the higher prices.

Besides that, we already covered the fact that there are distinct disadvantages to practicing this profession in a jurisdiction where it is illegal.

But not every girl in the USA is making $300 per hour turning tricks! That's a lot of money to pay, and most men are not going to pay it for the typical weak "half and half" services available in the USA. There are plenty of attractive girls who receive in the $100 to $150 dollar range for their services. And I mean a lot. There's no shortage of USA girls in this price range at all. You can go lower too, but then you're often dealing with "stank tutes", which I don't do. So now, who is it who's trying to think like a tute? Rhetorical question only.

[Banana Boi]

Folks! I will have the opportunity to make a trip to Frankfurt this weekend and I'll be able to spend some time in either Sharks or World.

Any recommendations, especially with the holiday season in mind and the selection of girls? I'm quite picky when it comes to girls.

Additionally I want to have sex in a public area, it's a bit of an unfulfilled phantasy.

So HB doesn't have to post this again."Sharks pays the girls 1. 200€ if they stay from 20. 12. Until 06. 01. So Sharks should have a decent line-up."

This will likely mean there will be more girls at Sharks than at World, which is likely the case at any time to begin with. I personally find the top girls at Sharks more to my taste than World but there are World fans that will state otherwise.

If you have the entire weekend you can do World Friday and Sharks Saturday. You can also take advantage of the Sharks 40€ entry special before 2 pm on Sundays.

As for public sex, most of the hot ones in the big FKK's likely won't do it. It doesn't mean it's not possible if you're willing to settle on something less stellar. Only an observation on my part rather than me asking. You may have better luck with this at the smaller clubs or return in the Summer when girls will have public sex with you outside.

[Horny Harry]

Folks! I will have the opportunity to make a trip to Frankfurt this weekend and I'll be able to spend some time in either Sharks or World.

Any recommendations, especially with the holiday season in mind and the selection of girls? I'm quite picky when it comes to girls.

Additionally I want to have sex in a public area, it's a bit of an unfulfilled phantasy. Sharks looks quite suitable for that, many cosy semi-public sitting areas, but the pics on the World website are not very clear as far as a Kino area and lounge area.

Thanks for your help!

[UltraHappy]

I love it when GUYS try to think like hookers. It's funny as hell.

A one hour session in OASE gets a girl 100 Euro (about $130 US. Depending on the exchange rate).

A one hour session for an American hooker in the USA who is even remotely as beautiful as most of the FKK girls makes around $300 here in the states. OR MORE.

OVER TWICE AS MUCH.

LOL. Yeah. I can see why a girl would be tripping all over herself to take a 50% cut in pay and go to Germany to work in the FKK's!

I know girls who left Hessen (100 Euros / hr) to work in NRW clubs for 75 Euros / hr. I asked them why in the world would they work for less when they make more in Hessen? They explained to me that they actually make more in NRW than they were making in Hessen on account of more customers. At the time, the lower prices attracted more men when they were struggling to find clients down in Hessen at the higher prices.

For that matter, why do any girls work in NRW when the per hour prices are higher in Hessen? (/rhetorical question)

Besides that, we already covered the fact that there are distinct disadvantages to practicing this profession in a jurisdiction where it is *legal.

In any case, as Capt Dan pointed out, this is all fantasy talk as American girls generally have no authorization to work in Europe.

[Arctic]

You nailed it. The other factor is that just staying in Europe for 30-90 days is appealing to many Americans. If top providers can take a three month vacation and pick up a little spending money on the side by working a few hours, they'll do it. Another thing is that some of them just fucking love Europeans and there aren't enough Europeans here for them to fuck.

I love it when GUYS try to think like hookers. It's funny as hell.

A one hour session in OASE gets a girl 100 Euro (about $130 US. Depending on the exchange rate).

A one hour session for an American hooker in the USA who is even remotely as beautiful as most of the FKK girls makes around $300 here in the states - OR MORE.

OVER TWICE AS MUCH.

LOL. Yeah. I can see why a girl would be tripping all over herself to take a 50% cut in pay and go to Germany to work in the FKK's!

[StarletVoyager]

In my recent trip which included 10 girls and 9 hours in room including a threesome I found the best policy in each case was just to say I want 1 hour once at the start and never mention the time again. You will know instinctively if its been an hour or very near to. I mean does it really matter if 5 or 10 mins are not met assuming you have had a great time. Also I never asked before what we were going to do or not do, for eg I did not ask about kissing or similar. Once in the room it is okay to mildly discuss what fetishes or turn ons you like but I also asked the girl what turned her on too every time. The minute you start adding time restrictions or monitoring the time, this shows them there is an element of mistrust from the start and yes it will linger during the hour. Once you start making advance demands about what you want sexually a psychological barrier has been created that IMHO just makes the time with the girl mechanical. My advice is to pick the girl you like the best outside relying heavily on your sixth sense. If it goes well and you reach that zone, well all the good. If it goes bad well its a 100 lost and you know better next time hopefully. Nothing is 100% I find and nothing ventured nothing gained. I used this way and had not 1 dud session out of 9 hours in the room.i am not by any means an expert but I think this is the best advice to newcomers to the scene and that is not to worry and just go with the flow. half an hour is not enough for any girl to get into it in my opinion.

[Eeyore]

Another factor to consider is that it is totally illegal in the States. This is a big risk (boy or girl) for the participants over here in the States. In my State for example, they are always setting up stings and catching people all the time (at least according to the local media). The illegality also tends to make total possible customer throughout less (much easier to snag X number of customers in an FKK rather than having to do a web site and getting the occasional booking here or there). Granted, it's different in every market and many girls are very successful with the escorting here in the States. Still, there's always that fear of being caught.

Even where the girl is extremely careful about not getting caught, there is difficulty of not having legal recourse if something goes awry since the transaction is illegal over here. If a guy slaps the girl around or whatever, the girl has a more difficult time going to the police in those situations due to the illegality.

Just some factors that might tip the balance to a lower cost FKK model. More customers, more legal versus higher price, illegal. Of course, most Americans have no work authorization in Germany so this is largely a moot point.

You nailed it. The other factor is that just staying in Europe for 30-90 days is appealing to many Americans. If top providers can take a three month vacation and pick up a little spending money on the side by working a few hours, they'll do it. Another thing is that some of them just fucking love Europeans and there aren't enough Europeans here for them to fuck.

[UltraHappy]

Unless I know the girl well, I not only note the time on my phone or watch but I also conspicuously show the time to the girl and repeat it out loud too,"Ah, it's 8:06 pm." That way, the girl knows that I know the time and she will be less likely to get creative with the time or try to suddenly create a revisionist history of when we started in the room.

This is also a good safeguard for those rare times when I forget when we started. I can ask the girl what time we started and she's more likely to remember and / or give me the correct starting time back.

You can't just rely on the girl to keep track of the time for two reasons: (1) sometimes they like to get creative and (2) if you've gone 40 minutes, you're already paying for an hour, so you've got some extra time to enjoy in the room before going to pay (otherwise, you've just lost 15-20 minutes of play time by not keeping track of the time).

[Hessen Bub]

I can't recall any FKK I've visited having clocks in the room. The provider keeps track of time,

Ever been to Sharks? They've put clocks in EVERY room a few months ago. And yes, the provider does keep track of time, but dependig on the girl and how well you know her you should do the same.

HB

[Arctic]

I've never had a problem with times.

My standard is."As long as I'm having a good time. I'll stay." That's what I tell the girls.

I have a watch. So it's not like I need an FKK supplied clock to tell what time it is.

Most girls aren't that enthusiastic to do a simple 30 min session with no extras. I usually tell them we're going to go at least an hour unless I get angry or something. I've never gotten angry though. I've found that once the girl realizes you aren't out for a cheepo quicky. She relaxes and has a good time.

Then again. I always tip pretty heavy. I only go to the FKK's about once a year for about a week so I bring plenty of cash with me. I don't have time to fuck around with unmotivated girls who give poor service. You'd be surprised at how some girls who get poor reviews turn into porno vixens behind closed doors when they know they are going to make a bit more money in a session.

What I HAVE had a problem is. Is some girls feel entitled to repeat sessions with me. And actually get angry that I won't take them for another fuck. But I don't give a shit about them. I tell them to get lost.

Then there are girls who respect my decisions. They'll keep checking on me from time to time to see if I want them again. Or they'll bring a friend by and ask if she's hot enough for me to do doubles. They'll just smile real big and say."Okay, I'm here if you need me, Arctic". I LOVE those girls. They make the FKK experience unbelievable.

[Akibono]

This is a good way to let the lady know that you are mindful of the time. I like this.

At the NRW, clubs such as ACA and Magnum has a key counter that issues you and the lady a key and writes down the times. Also at ACA, there is a clock on top of the door, but it's too far to make out the time, and you don't want to walk over to it in a middle of a BJ.

You can always take it down and place it near the bed. Best anti-sharking tool available. LOL!